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March 7, 2025

Episode 625- Star Trek Anime

Episode 625- Star Trek Anime
Episode 625- Star Trek Anime
Trek Talking
Episode 625- Star Trek Anime

In this episode of Trek Talking, host Uncle Jim and his panel of Trek experts engage in lively discussions about various aspects of Star Trek, including the often-overlooked animated series, fan interactions, and ethical dilemmas presented in specific...

In this episode of Trek Talking, host Uncle Jim and his panel of Trek experts engage in lively discussions about various aspects of Star Trek, including the often-overlooked animated series, fan interactions, and ethical dilemmas presented in specific episodes. They also analyze character dynamics, particularly between Guinan and Pellea, while addressing audience poll responses and opinions on key Star Trek narratives. In this engaging conversation, the hosts delve into various aspects of Star Trek, particularly focusing on the animated series and its impact on the franchise. They discuss the implications of character resurrection, the animation styles that have evolved over the years, and the nostalgia associated with classic shows. The conversation also touches on the influence of anime on Star Trek's storytelling and character design, culminating in a heartfelt remembrance of Star Trek legends and their contributions to the series. In this episode, the hosts celebrate the legacy of Gates McFadden, discuss the new face of Spock, Ethan Peck, and honor various Star Trek personalities on their birthdays. They also remember the late Roberto Orci and provide updates on the production of Strange New Worlds Season 4. Additionally, they delve into the exciting new line of Star Trek figures available for pre-order, highlighting the unique character choices and accessories. Let's see whats out there...ENGAGE!

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0:46 About the series, I'm coming to minds now talking about the series. Cooks on the phone now. Well, good evening, Trekkies and trekers around the globe. It's Thursday, March six, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode six hundred and twenty five of Trek Talking. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, and we're gonna have some fun tonight. But before we dive into the excitement, let me go around the room and introduce all of my awesome trek sports to you. We're going to go out to Portland and say hello to Eric. How you doing tonight?

1:35 Eric? Well, Jim, I'm doing okay. It's Friday's eve. I've had a heck of a day, but I just cracked my Rogue brewery sasquatch. I'm sitting here about ready to talk about Star Trek. So things are getting. Better, excellent, and we're going to stick out in Portland as well, and we're going to say hello to Paul, our resident toy guy. How you doing tonight, Paul? Hey, bro Scancho's doing okay. As Eric said, it's been an interesting week on all fronts. But yeah, the camaraderie and silliness of a Thursday night podcast may just be the prescription that we all need. Yes, I would agree. And sticking with Portland, I think there's something in the water. We have our very own miracle worker.

2:18 David. How you doing tonight? David? All right, I forgot to turn on my beaper here. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. Everything going good. It shuns out that the wind blowing. I gotta shut that shuts stay weird, so you know, can real. I've got my Indiana Jones shirt on, and we're gonna not go to Portland. We're gonna cruise out to Vegas and we're gonna say hello to Charles. How are you doing tonight? Charles? I'm doing all right now thinking about Hey, Star Trek, we haven't created weather stations yet. We could use some weather stations and maybe get rid of some of this wind.

3:04 It's like, Okay, if we're gonna get rain, get rain. If we're not going to get rain, we're not going to get rain. But we could use some of these weather stations. We're going to be getting some snow here in Vermont, so' not looking forward to that at all. You're still getting snow in March. Wow, Yeah, we're getting that is crazy. It is crazy. I'm going to move out to Vegas. That's what I'm moving with Charles. So it's I don't know. I missed most of this because I was in California most of last week, but I think David and Eric probably can tell you. There was a pretty significant storm here like Monday night, right, big windstorm is what I heard. So I was listening to a show today where they're interviewing one of the bar pilots on the not bar but the bar of the river, right the Columbia bar pilots, right at the mouth of the Columbia River. They had record sixty three foot waves. Wow. They normally get like at a big storm for them that they say, okay, if we've got a rough one. If you know they get thirty foot waves, right, this sucker brought in over sixty foot waves. Just unbelievable.

4:10 And here it is like you know, you know, it's like late February when this happens. This is just nuts. So weather, it's just crazy all over, I guess and other stations could be helpful. Childs Yeah, that would be helpful. We gotta get something going on, but it just gets crazier and crazier all the time. So so before we go too far, I want to let you guys know that you can help support the Truck Talking podcast by becoming a Patreon membership started only two dollars per month. You get access to video broadcast as well as our audio podcast, and you can head over to trek Talking dot com and you'll see a link there for our Patreon page, or you can just head over to PayPal and make a one time donation if you would like to no pressure at all. That's trek Talking dot com. While you're there, you'll have access to all our podcast there's a nice blog there. You can read the bios on the trek spurts, And while you're there, there's a little blue talk back microphone in the bottom right hand corner. You can click on that and record a message and tell Eric how wonderful his hair looks, for instance, you know, or you can mention David's triple and we will play your message on the very next show. Speaking of which, on Sunday, March ninth, we're gonna be talking to Ben Robinson. And Ben Robinson is like a Star Trek guru. He's been involved in well a lot of Star Trek. Currently he's working for

5:43 Master Replicas on the new Star Trek line. So if you have a question for him while you're at Trek Talking dot com, record your question for Ben and we will play it for him on Sunday and get an answer for you. So tonight's show, because we don't have any live Star Trek talk about, we have to wait for season three of Strange New Worlds. I was cruising around the internet. I noticed that Star Trek, the animated series, doesn't get a lot of love, unfortunately, And I don't think that's fair because I think there's some great stories there, but people get hung up on that clunky seventies kind of herky jerky animation style. So I stumbled across this company.

6:28 I think it's a company. It might be a fan that thought it might be fun to remake all of the Star Trek animated series in eighties anime style. Now I'm not a huge anime fan, I will admit that, but it caught my eye. So we're going to talk about Star Trek the anime series, and we have a clip that they put together that we're going to show for you guys. And I also for those of you who are not familiar with Star Trek the animated series, there's another fan group out there who are taking all of the TG episodes and making them in TAS animated style, and I pulled the clip from the best of both worlds. So if you guys have never seen the animated series, we'll play a little clip from the TNG animated series so you get an idea of what the the animation look like. And then we'll watch the clip of the anime.

7:23 It's from Japan, I believe, and we'll talk about it. So that's what's going to be going on tonight, and you can go over while you're at our truck talking dot Com there's a link to our Facebook page. You can head over there. We have all kinds of pull questions there, and there's a question at the top of the page asking hey, dude, where are you listening from? And all I need to do is drop us a little a little hey, I'm listening to you in Yugoslavia, and try to leave a lot of a lot of emojis that catches my attention. So, without any further ado, let's into our fan shout out and we're gonna have Eric start us off tonight.

8:04 Take it away, Eric, Jim. I'm so excited to once again be hearing from Sheffield, England, and we're saying hello this week to Rachel Louise Lamberton, who sent us a nice little hearts around the face emoj you, which I can only assume that she absolutely loves our podcast and is hopefully listening right now. If you are, Rachel, just we really appreciate your support and can't believe how many people love us in the UK. It's pretty awesome. It seems like a very reasonable place and a very cool place to live right now. So thanks for saying hi to us. I'm also saying hi this week to Martina Keras, who's saying hello to us from Sele, Germany, Lower Saxony near Hanover. I'm not familiar with that Aria, Martina, but I bet it's amazing. Germany's got all kinds of cool food.

8:52 I took German in high school, so I speak a little bit of your language too, so I'll just say that you probably believe that star Trek says als Bekauzich need as I do. Thanks for saying hi to us. Also saying hello this week to Paul Mark, who's sending us greetings from Hungry and a livelong and prosper hand. We don't get a whole lot of shout outs from Hungary, but we always appreciate fans who listen to us there as well, So Paul Mark, thanks for saying hi to us, and applaw to you, sir. And last, but not least, we'll head back to the island and say hello to Brian Ritchie, who saying hello to us from Scotland, a place that I haven't been, but many of my favorite actors are from Scotland and I would love to see your beautiful part of that part of the world as well.

9:39 So that does it for my fan shout outs. I'm going to pass that shout out megaphone over to mister Charles. Thank you Eric. Let's start off with a warm welcome to Rachel Tisdale from Gilbert, Arizona. Welcome Rachel. I spent a little time in Gilbert back in the mid eighties, and my dad was there totally the mid nineties. I think we might know this person. Top fan Leslie Sawyer from North Carolina. I think that might be somebody Jim knows. Welcome to Benjamin and Fief from Blackfoot, Idaho. Welcome Benjamin.

10:24 Another top fan, Gerald Russell from the Pacific Northwest in the USA. And I guess he's not up in Canada yet, but welcome Gerald. David. Who's on your list? Yeah, I got quite a few people here show. First of all, I want to say thanks, welcome to James H. McCoy. I'm not sure if you're related to the real McCoy, but welcome in after you know, well, you have Haileyan from Indiana. So next on the list is just Gateword from Denver. Danvers is that main I think giving us a little flag over there. And next is Scott Montgomery, another relation to detract Star Trek universe. Probably you are hailing from Panama City Beach, Florida. And last on my list is Heidi P. Durham from Louisville, Kentucky. And thanks everyone for listening, and I'm going to pass this over to Paul Well.

11:41 Thank you, David, very kind of you, my friend. Let's remind ourselves that it's a pretty global audience that savers Star Trek on whatever platform you care to name, all over the planet. Folks to Star Trek fans, we have a lot in common. Like our friend Dietrich Kamer in Hanover, Germany is letting us know that Dietrich is also a Star Trek fan. Fantastic there south of Hamburg if I recollect Hanover, but absolutely spectacular part of the planet and wonderful to know that it's full of Star Trek fans. So thanks for letting us know, Dietrick, and it's great to hear from you. Uh. And we had dual alliances from our next fan here, Andre Switzer, is letting us know Vulcan hand signs and many many flags proclaiming that they have dual allegiance to both Germany and Croatia. So a lot of stuff going on there. It's it's it's not a not a brisk walk.

12:41 You know, you've got all of Slovenia and Austria between those two countries, so you've got to really rack up the frequent flyer miles without any question to pull that one off. Andre. But great to know that whichever destination you're hanging your hat, you are letting us know you love star treks, so that's fantastic and not too far away again letting us know big fan of all things vulcan Is cab zobis from France. I don't know where in France the cab Is is listening to us from, but it's great to know you're out there and wonderful to hear you're a fellow enthusiast, my friend, so thank you. And then we have our good friend Jakub nize Goda in Lublin, Poland with the Polish flag billowing proudly in the wind. There. It is really really it just makes me every time I do this segment, I just want to get on a plane and go to Europe. Frankly, I mean every single time. It's just sometimes you just really crave other cultures. Can I just say like that sometimes you really crave other cultures, other food, other you know, ways of engaging with one's fellows, you know. And I would be very happy to sit in a Parisian hotel room and watch the episode of the original series it was dumbed in Fringe. I think I would enjoy that enormously.

14:05 I think that would that needs to be on my bucket list of things to do. I think I would have a really good time doing that. So International Star Trek friends, we salute you and thank you for reminding us that we all have more in common than we do things that separate us. So a good reminder. Let's pass things over to Uncle Jim. Why, thank you, Paul. Look at those good looking dudes on the screen there, Eric, you see them good looking dudes. I see a klingon, I see a little bit of Lieutenant j there, and I see some guy with super fluvy hair. Again, that was our visit to isn't that guy on the right. Wasn't he like a member the member of the rock band Kiss that they threw out? Isn't that what I pretty?

14:55 Wenky forehead? Yeah? I think was his name, right, Yes, Ace Creakley? Yeah, and were just you know, he couldn't wear the shoes, he had problems applying the makeup and just. Trying to play the battlest just yeah, it. Was a ship show. So they threw him out. Yeah there and there he is. He ended up in tay Kondor Roga a. Little Star Trek for you all. And see that everybody's everybody is handling my batlet. So here we go, there we go, Yeah, there we go. All right, God, all. You audio folks are missing all the fun of the slide show. That's right. So yeah, by the way, I forgot to mention that if you guys would like to have your photos featured in a fan shout out like the ones that we're looking at right now. There's my good friend Edwin. All you gotta do is go over to truck Talking dot com and send us your picture and we will add it to our fans. There's Bruce when I bought my Star Trek five book at truck Honor Roga. Uh, send us your picture and not only will we mention your name, but your picture will be immortalized for all of eternity in fan shout outs. All right, back to fan shout outs, I'd like to say thank you to top fan Larry Nugat, who says, go Eagles. He's from South Jersey. Thank you for listening, Larry. I also want to say thank you to top fan Kirk p da Costa, who's listening to us in Nebraska. Thank you so much, Kirk. And Brian

16:25 Koppol who's listening to us in Pittsburgh. And last but not least, Nick Kerman who's in North Caroline. Up. If you guys would like to be featured on a fan shout out, just head over to truck talkin dot com, follow the link to our Facebook page, and then you know the rest. All right, guys, speaking about our Facebook page. Every week I like to throw out some polls and see what you guys think about what's happening in the Star Trek world. And so here we go with our poll. Poll in poll in poling. You know me like, no win what you thought about the show.

17:06 When we try to share your opinions with all of our minions out there because they listen worldwide. So tell us just what you think. Get together we will all drink canar and robulin a. I gotta say, my favorite part of that song right now is watching Paul poorly lip SyncE it. It's amazing. I like them. I like the minions thing myself. We're security reasons. I have a slight delay, right, that's what it is to make sure you know, to make sure that you know no no harm makes total sense, no harmful worms get through.

17:50 We don't want that at all. So, uh, Eric, why don't we find out what our minions thought about our poll questions this week? Absolutely? Jim. Our first poll question is in Star Trek Enterprise's fourth season episode Divergence, Section thirty one has kidnapped doctor Flox to work on a cure for the Klingon augment virus. Did Section thirty one do the right thing by kidnapping Doctor Flox? Eighty eight percent of our responders said yes, Section thirty one did the right thing, and twelve percent of our responders said nah, Section thirty one didn't do the right thing. So there you have it, a lot of love for section thirty one. What do you guys think?

18:39 No? I don't think the episode was necessary myself. But that's not the question, Jim. No, that's not a question. Since I came up with the question, that's what that question. You know, is kidnapping ever? Right? You now see. That's a good question. I think, Yeah, they kidnapped him and forced him to work on a cure against his will. It's a good thing he did because General Klingon Poopa there, a guy was gonna wipe everybody out if he didn't come up with a cure, which is good because he wanted to see enterprise continue. But I don't think they made the right choice. I think kidnapping Flocks was.

19:25 Not a good choice. I think, you know, had they approached him and said, yo, dude, you know the Klingons are gonna wipe everybody out. You know, we know you can come up with a cure and asked him, he probably would have gone with them willingly. So I don't think they did the right thing. No, So I guess I'm in the U. I'm in the twelve percent minority in this pool. Yeah, wow, what about the rest y'all? What about you? Charles? I don't remember the episode, but I'm thinking this is where we sat there and talked about where Warf had has to come up with the thing where we don't talk about these Klingons and all of this, and it's like, did we really need to try changing history to why we had we had different cling up, different different looking Klingons in the sixties, and we did the eighties.

20:21 Answer the questions. I think I was in the I think I was. I believe I was in the twelve percent that said, no. There are four lights. Charles, Wow, we're both in the minority. But I say. Three point five nine. I honestly can't remember what I selected for this toll, and I I'm trying to remember the episode because I remember Charles mentioned that it was the episode where they change Kleonons and everything. But I don't have to go with you, guys. I mean it kidnapping a good thing.

21:09 I would I would agree with you Jim that he would probably gone wind willingly willingly. Well, Paul, I guess you get to bring up the caboose on this intellectual and stimulating questions. I don't know, it's been a billion years since I've seen these particular episodes. I don't remember the you know, minutia of their motivations for doing so right. But you know, it's like whose playbook are you following? Right? It's like kidnapping scientists, hmm. Doesn't seem like a great ethical thing. Kind of seems like you might have more in common with I don't know the Gestapo than you know, uh, you know, Habitat for Humanity. But the only other you know thing from the same playbook is if like, rather than you know, kidnapping, said scientists, you kidnap, said scientists love one and threatened to, you know, blow their brains out if they don't help you out right, I mean, it's basically the same tactic. You know, it's it's kind of extortion and and dare I say it fascist mentality?

22:07 You know? But so yeah, I'm thinking probably not. And again it's just like it's it's tough to get much more in detail on that. So so I'm going to say no, section thirty one, Section thirty one fascists and after seeing the recent movie poorly Dressed Fascists at that, so, you know. I mean, that makes it unanimous. Every one of our texperts, including myself, thinks that it was a bad idea because kidnapping is never good. But since I have the actual caboose, I'm gonna disagree with Jim and say it was a necessary episode and I liked that they made it. Okay, answer the question.

22:49 I answered it first, So there you go all right, well, well that does it for all our opinions. So we are in complete disagreement with our responders, so thank you for that. Our next poll question goes back to a awesome one off episode that I think we may be all excited to see another character coming up from in a future show here in the tr No. Actually just came out in section thirty one. That's right, in the TNG episode Yesterday's Enterprise, Captain Picard transfers Tashi Yar at her request to serve aboard the NCC seventeen oh one C. This decision impacts future events in unexpected ways. Do you agree with his decision? And of course I was referring to Rachel Garrett just having shown up in section thirty one from that episode, But ninety percent of our responders said that Captain Picard did the right thing. Tasha Yar made a request, he fulfilled it, deal done, Timelines be damned, and ten percent of our responders said, nah, he should have made a different decision.

23:59 So there you go. Looks like Paul speaking in slow motion about his opinions on this one. She's in a time loop. I was just gonna say, you know, hold on, a second, though. I mean, I don't feel like we're completely catching the whole ball here, right, because it wasn't just like Hi, Captainricartter, I like to get transferred over to the Enterprise. I wasn't a lot of this at the behest of the perception of Guy in it and her intervention. Yes, that's what I'm remembering, right that she was basically you know, you don't belong here, sister, right towards that effect, right, I mean that's what I'm remembering, am I how off base? Okay?

24:41 So I don't think it was just like her you know, impulsiveness because of you know, getting caught up in the moment. I think she was like sensing that, like there are forces to play in the universe, destiny, what have you alignment that that I kind of need to not push back against and just feeling like I don't feel right here, but I do feel right here and listening to that inner voice. That's what I got from that episode. Yeah, and Gynan being the guru that knows the way the timeline is supposed to flow, so to speak, and thereby giving advice to set things straight. I like how Guynan's in that kind of a power position, but yet she's not the one making the final decisions. She's just there as the trusted, you know, guru that that knows the way things are supposed to go and the decide what they want to do.

25:31 I love guyan Man because it's like, you know, I was just thinking about her the other day because I don't know, it was on some Facebook page trek Talking Podcasts something like that, Somebody's put up a picture of like Peleia from uh Streaming the worlds, right, and I'm like, and I'm thinking about, like, what a missed opportunity with that character, right, because supposedly she's been around for like centuries and she's at all this perspective seeing all development. Meant guind live with the mesopotamiums, whatever whatever, whatever, right, and she's got very little insight or observation to contribute to what she sees or to be an advisor help her or provide any wisdom, right, compared to Guynan, who I think Gynan always really, you know, you know, in a very compelling and succinct way, kind of helped you find your way when you were in a conundrum. Right.

26:21 So I just wish that they would do more with that character instead of having her just sort of be you know, you know, awkward comic relief, you know, because Guynan was a great character. I think I think she you know, initially people were like, will be Goldberg on Star Trek, how's that going to work? And it episode one worked just great. As soon as she was on. There was a great fit and I think a breath of fresh air. So they could still fix Pellia. But well, let me ask you this, Paul So Pellia and guy it, I don't disagree with you. Also, Pellia has a very different position on the ship than Gynan had. Gyan was the bartender, right and even in real life, like the bartender is the one you go to to like tell your troubles too, and then they sort of you know, dish out wisdom. Yeah, yeah, behind the bar.

27:10 Could they even make Pelly into that kind of a character, beings that she's in the engineering department. Sure, because people could track her down and like the you know, the what, you know, the whatever wherever the hell they are eating lunch, and with the conference room whatever it is, you know, the cafeteria whatever it is, a dining room, I guess it would be right or whatever, Like it just seems like or people would go to her, right, I would think would be something. I mean, that's you know, when you need Pike in particular, it's in a situation where he's got a lot of conundrums because of his situation, right, and what he knows and you know, grappling with you know which sometimes it seems like he's conveniently forgotten for long stretches at a time, right where he's not grappling with that mortality issue. Right. But it seems like some perspective somebody who's hung out with like famous philosophers and Freud and whoever, right, could could really helpful to bang things off of. And I think it would make good drama, good storytelling to have her be more involved in like just saying, hey, did you think about this kind of thing?

28:09 So I'd like to you know, Calke's no slouched, all right, just good actress, done a lot of good work, right, And so I feel like she's being you know, kind of underutilized. Yeah, I treated a little dismissively with this scatter brained nonsense, right. I mean it's just you know, it's a well do more, give us more, you know. You have to realize that we haven't even seen shooting three or four yet, so they could great back. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for. This is how I gently tease the season that we've to get to watch. She did come from Vermont, though she was hanging out in Burlington. And everyone I've ever met from Vermont is very insightful and uh well adjusted. Well and almost everyone and uh, you know, generally pretty have a good person to talk to get perspective, right, certainly, or go have a pint of catamount with or whatever. Right. But yeah, I just I just.

29:01 You know, I you know, I don't I I don't think Picard made the right. Choice in this case. Yeah, I guess my point is Gun in big shoes, right, Uh, great character. So I just had any opportunity to squeeze gun It into a Yesterday's Enterprise conversation, got to do it because such a great episode. I don't think that Picard made the right choice in this case, but I want to I want to justify that by saying that the Picard that we see in this episode is not the Picard that we know from TNG. This is a worn, torn Picard, and the Federation's on the verge of getting wiped out. He's not the great explorer that we know from TNG. This is a different version of Picard, So you know, he's not looking at things like, well, geez, maybe Celia's maybe she's gonna get pregnant, have the baby. She's gonna come back in the future and kill off Spot and all this other stuff is going to happen because of what I do today. He's not that type of character. This particular Picard that wee the only character who's, like Paul said, that is the same.

30:04 It's pretty much Guyan. But that's because I think I think time moves around her. Maybe she's not in the time tunnel like we are. So yeah, I think you're right, Paul. I think she's a different character. So I personally, I don't think that Picard made the right choice. I think that if it was our Picard from TNG and not this war captain, he might have made a different choice, But in this case it wasn't, So I don't think he made the right choice. What about you, Oh well. I was just going to say that I kind of agree that time moved around Guyan and the fact that she also isn't affected by Q, which I thought was kind of an interesting thing, although string to no hard share.

31:00 He came up with that whole backdoor at the guy, which is kind of weird. But anyways, I honestly don't really I think that Picard really had a choice. I kind of agree with Eric or Paul. I mean so I the whole guiding thing it was actually heard that kind of helped guide the decision too. Uh what we have for this episode, so I know, I can't really like again for the last poll, I can't remember what I chose In a while, I had so much stuff to do with the whole slide show making stuff. But uh yeah, right now the decision, I don't know. I would have to say yes, probably maybe no. So yeah, I don't know.

31:52 Classic David response. I love it. Yeah, yes, but maybe not but maybe but probably not. But it could me. I think David invented. David invented the rules for the card game Fisbin. I'm pretty sure, right, unless it's Tuesday on Tuesday and it's raining, then that's the case, then you play it too. Unless it's dark, if it's at night, then you don't play at all. I love it well, I guess, I guess I get to come of a go boose and throw monkey wrenches and things. Yes, there's the enterprise, in my interpretation, is an alternate universe, so things have changed. Well, when they returned back to their normal timeline, could Pasha Yar been brought back because she's dead, so now she's an alternative line, She's gonna suddenly come back, And it's like, Okay, she came back from the dead, and I'm not sure ron Berry wanted the deal with bringing the dead back at that time. Okay, bringing Spock back, as that was a mistake losing spot in the first place. But oh, let's

33:25 bring Tasha back. But Tasha doesn't want to be on the Tasha's not on the show. So I think partly Cardon made the right decision because I don't think she was going to end up coming back anyway, and she made an interesting timeline to she changed the alternative timeline, reconnected the original timeline, and create a new timeline, so it makes things a little confusing. Sorry Paul, but I'm definitely agreeing that Ricard made the right decision because I don't think she was gonna come back anyway. But you want to Shay No, right, well, you know, yes, no, I'm saying he didn't make the right decision because I think it was the right decision for the decision for the show.

34:19 Okay, yeah, and they they are. And they did have that little cop out there where Picard asked Celia, what can I meet your mother? Oh? No, they killed her. She's dead, Like of course, you know, why why not? Why would you do that? All right, guys, So those are our poll questions for this week, and you can head over to our Facebook page and find out the next wonderfully enticing question that I came up with. All right, guys, So now we're gonna we're actually gonna dive into our topic of the evening and uh that basically is Star Trek, the animated series and kind of what if question. So the first video I want to show you, guys is a TNG video. It's a best of both worlds done in classic seventies to os style.

35:06 So Miracle Worker, you want to run that for us? Let's hope at the right one. Direction Dead nine damage report. Structural latching system is pretty breached. Companded things out of here. Number one fire up. The edges have impulsively clear than ebular and punching out the water food to Beata bays engage. Tractor Beam is attempting to luck on fine Will rotating she frequency she was failing.

35:51 Chuctor Beam has locked on. They've already adapted to the new freaking season. Portship is disengaging, leaving at warp speed maintain pursuit.

36:52 Work. Vessels has reached warp nine nine point four nine point six day with him Raggado O'Brien negive things on the captain. There's some kind of interference catalog in. A single Senior officers report to the bridge, Sir, the coordners they have said they're on a direct course the sector in zero zero one the term system. Earth. All right, guys, So that is the best of both worlds, done in the t A S animated style. And they may have noticed that they even kept the music in that they didn't use TNG music, they used that classic animated music. So what what did you think, Eric?

37:43 Did you like? Did you like it? That was amazing? Yeah? I loved it. I loved the I loved the animation style. I loved the adaptation of it. It really felt like an animated series, you know, show or version of the show. I love that they had the Zeta Kazinti on the at the Helm there. That was super cool, kind of a call back to having Eric's at the Helm instead of uh, instead of Checkov, you know. Uh so uh yeah. I just thought that was fantastic. And you know, I was like, listening to the dialogue, I'm like, oh, yeah, I've heard this dialogue and then I realized it was exactly the dialogue from the show or from the movie that they had just adapted. And they used some of the old timey sound effects too, which was kind of fun.

38:33 I don't know, just had a great flavor and a great ara to it. So I loved it. Yeah, I would. I would wouldn't mind watching more of the episodes in that style, I think, Yeah, I. Mean, maybe fun to see more of the more existing at but it's fun to see new content like in that style, you know, some story that we haven't had before. Actually, there is a comp there is somebody on YouTube that is actually doing that. So well, what about Charles, What did you think about it? Did you like that better than the original tas or or about the same. Yeah, he's muted.

39:15 I'm sorry. I had a little issue with my navigator. I think it'd be interesting to actually see the episode, the two episodes side by side, and to actually see what happens between the two, to see how they resemble each other. I definitely would not mind seeing some TNG in the TOS format, as I am an old school Saturday Morning cartoons fan and enjoy animation eventually a little bit of some of the new stuff, so definitely interesting. I'd be curious to see what they do.

39:56 What about you, David, I mean, you and I already watched these when we set the show up, but now you get to share your opinions. With the world. Well, well guess what I thought. So yeah, I really thought the car fitting well without bald boards. You know. I think they just wanted to bring him in just to add to the collective. Maybe they're running out of manpower or something. I don't know, but I liked it. It was actually pretty good. It's it really reminded me. And I don't know if anybody else knows about the particular cartoon, but anyone ever heard of the cartoon called Johnny Quest? Of course, you're like, practically you're practically reading my birth certificate here I mean, yeah, that's I'm steep steep.

40:45 Ye. Yeah, that really reminded me a lot of them, and uh yeah, I liked it. I I grew up watching that kind of stuff and I'm sure you guys have to and uh, anybody else around the world ever heard of it? Maybe you just put in a little uh chat thing in through the Facebook show. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I hope that they come up with more. And I kind of want to see them do a Discovery cartoon version too, how that does or even a strange world even though yeah, they kind of did it with lower decks I understand, but I mean this animation is so much different from lower deck. Maybe a lower deck version of this I don't know, but I think it would be kind of interesting. But yeah, I enjoyed it.

41:30 Well, Paul, you get to pull up the caboose on this conversation this time, buddy. It should come as no surprise. I love this thing. I thought it was great. I mean, it's been around for a while, this particular one, right, But it's just labor of love, right because it's like these are clearly folks who made this adore in the animated series, right because it has such a set old filmation style of animation, right, where a lot of times just they had to make it quick and i'm really really quick, and so they didn't have the time to animate as many frames or do as many shots. So a lot of times it's like that whole pushing thing that they would do where people are running like this just because it's you know, the fastest way to get it. You know, do as few shots as possible to achieve and make it look like things are moving. So they did a lot of that kind of stuff. And just to hear the score, you know, that original score, the original sound effects that they used to have, great stuff. And if you know, I feel bad for folks who have not really had a chance to appreciate the animated series because it's really easy to be jaded with modern perspective and look at it and it might seem clunky to you or whatever.

42:39 But you know, it's like saying, oh, an old Humpy Bogart movie, I can't believe it's in black and white? What the hell? Right? I mean, it's just it's a product of the time it was made, right, I Mean, there was nothing like this back then, and it was it was really amazing. When it came out, you know, seventy three, it was like, oh my god, it's like another season of Star Trek. All of the actors have signed on, and yet they kind of gently pushed it forward, right, so it wasn't just doing the same thing, right, they were able to show a lot more elaborate aliens and environments they could ever do. And you know, you know TV show in the sixties back then, right, they came up with cool enhancements like tilt the environmental belts that they would wear so they didn't have to wear a spacesuit on another planet. It was like this kind of energy field that they would you allow them to breathe, and there's really clever, so great stuff. And this was I think done with real fealty and affection. So for me, wonderful, a delight.

43:38 If I'm not mistake. And I think the the original animated series was rotoscoped, right, so they took like footage of the actual actors and then basically animated over the top of that. So I don't think so, I don't I don't remember. I know. The Lord of the Rings movies were the Ralph Bokshiet pictures those were rotoscoped, for sure were I don't think these were, but I don't remember I really, to be honest, I made of your memory. No, I don't know. I was wondering if they used a similar style or similar technique here where they took where they literally just took the footage and then just you know, these days probably had a computer anime with a certain style over the top of it, but just animated directly over the original footage.

44:20 Interesting. Yeah, it'd may be worth to looking into and find out, but I just think it's so entertaining though. It's so fun, you know, and it's brief, so it's not like it doesn't wear. It's welcome out, which is nice. Well, guys, I just wanted to give you, if you hadn't seen tas Star Trek, the animated series in the seventies, I wanted to give you a little taste of what it looked like before we give you a taste of what it might look like if it was done today. So, David, you want to run that Star Trek anime video comes some cuteness. Here we go. Captain's log start date forty five point three point three Deep Space Station case even signals near or total state the nature of your emergency. It's a triple.

45:07 This morning I found out that he had baby. They do, indeed have one redeeming characteristic of fact, they do not talk too much. This is my chicken, sandwich and coffee. I want these things off the ship. I don't care if it takes every man away gone. I want them off the ship. I take up guy. All we have to do is stop feeding. Once we stop feeding them, they stop breeding.

45:54 All right, Well, what did you think, Paul? You got you had the caboose last time, so you can get you can have the engine time. What did you think? It's pretty entertaining? I mean, brevity is is great. Right, I'm glad that it's just basically the old trailer for that episode, right, the old coming contraction three. So and it's great. You you it's it's either it's like you feature flavor of ice cream or not. Right. Uh, This of course brings you back to like the old days of like speed Racer, right, you know that was the nascent era of like the kind of anime. Now it's like a whole you can't even keep track, you know how many animes have come out since then, it's an entire cultural you know, Watershed, I mean, Somebody, Vampire, hundred, d Akira, you know, so many different you know, huge touchstones and anime have built on those early styles and and this, uh and you can find a lot of different UH manga books that have done the same thing.

46:52 There's some I've got a few mangos that are done in the comic book style but in the same Japanese format that they have there, but tend to be characters tend to look much younger than then, you know they would in their realistic counterparts, right, that whole you know, kind of wide eyed, kind of I love the way that when somebody will just be like barely moving and the background is flying furiously, you know, vertically behind them to give a sense of motion and stuff like that. It's just funny. But but yeah, it's it's all distracting how young these characters are, right, I mean, the way that they've picted here, I mean, it's the whole thing, right, I mean, like McCoy looks like he's twenty two, doesn't exactly look like the grizzled old physician we're used to, right, He's he looks much younger here, and it doesn't really quite sync up with his voice, but it's fun to see Sarah O Jones. No, were there any Klingons depicted in here that I really quickly were there? Did I just not see them? I think I just did not see it, that's right, that's right. Yeah, I was pretending that was Elon Musk. That's sorry at a moment, but yeah, it was. It was fun. I liked them. I think I'm you know, I think just because it's what I grew up with and I like it. I'm I lean more towards the filmation style of like the animated series from the first one we looked at. But this is still very very well done and clearly made with great affection from the people who did it. So you got to, you know, admire the work of both these groups who

48:25 put this together. So well done. Friends, and we lost your audio there, but nope, still silent. Yeah, difficulties. How about you, Charles, what do you think about this? M hm? And I got almost the impression of Pokemon in here. Definitely, Kirk, It's like, okay, we're edging a little closer to Pike care Definitely. I don't think the hair was quite that much in the in the animated series, but interesting version, but looks more Japanese anime than it does what we used to with the with the animated series, So I think it gave an unusual personality to some of the characters.

49:41 Which might not. Quite fit what they represent at the time. So interesting, but I kind of like the TOS version a little better, tas version. Having technical difficulties. So what do you what do you think, David? It was interesting? Uh, definitely the original style anime. I do have to go with Paul. Yeah, I do look really young, and I wonder the reason probably why they're lip didn't shrink up, mainly because it was speaking in a different language like Japanese probably, so that might have been the sense of why their lips were moving like that.

50:37 Well they just were you know, probably old style cartoons or something. But I guess we'll never know until we look it up for talk to the guy who made it. But yeah, I actually kind of liked it. I mean, of course, you know, made troubles, so uh it was fun. I actually liked how they kept the everything like that white people are like when Coke got trampled by all those troubles, the very last trouble came down, you know and hit his head and everything. So it was enjoyable. I wouldn't mind seeing more, but I don't know if they will be making anymore, did anybody know?

51:19 Not sure? Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, they're pretty cool. Well I'll say that. So one of my favorite things about anime in general and in particular anime, like there's that great stuff from the early years, like Akira and that sort of stuff. The stuff that's come out in the last you know, thirty years or so has gotten progressively more and more kind of big in the expressions and the ways that people kind of react to things, and so this kind of came through with that, right. People had like really big eyes and really big expressions to things that a normal person wouldn't necessarily have in real life. But the audio was a little distract Having used the old audio with that kind of extremely expressive animation style, it felt like there was a little bit of a disconnect to me there. So it would have been fun to have somebody re I mean, obviously the voices would have been different, but to actually have them re record the same lines but with more expression and you know, that sort of stuff. It might have actually fit with the video that we saw just a little bit more. So that was my that was my initial impression of it. But the animation style was was really fun.

52:33 I mean, it's fun to see, you know anime's box. I don't know, I kind of like it. So, yeah, I'd like to see more David. In terms of the sinking of things, I would I would have thought, and obviously I don't know, I'm just speculating, but I would have thought that they would have animated this for the English since that's the audio track that they were using. So I almost wondered if the fact that it was off just a little bit was an homage to dubbed anime wherein they their mouths never sync up with what's what's going on? I don't know, maybe not interesting, but uh yeah, that's the way I kind of read it.

53:17 Yeah, and animation by Mitch Mellow and it said special things to my little sister to help and advice. So was it just done by these two or what did a group of people? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. We should dig into it a little bit more. Cool. Well, I think Jim lost his sound somehow and video, so. What to do well, do we have do we have any more of these to watch right now? David? I know you guys plan this out. Yeah, they're doing to those two videos, and then I think, I guess we were just gonna go onto birthday tours all right. But well, I'm not sure that we can vamp for too long on this topic.

54:00 So uh and without real quick, real quick, Eric, Yeah, pop quiz. Best episode of the animated series? Uh, well, there are a few that are pretty darn good out there. I like, I like anything written by what's her name that I'm not thinking of her name right now? D d se Fontana. Yeah, the what's the er? Uh, that's the one that I'm thinking of, and I'm. Working thinking about Yesteryear. Yesteryear. That's my favorite episode. Me too, Me too. I think that I would argue in front of anybody that that is not just one of the best episodes of the animated series. Yeah, I would say it's one of the best episodes of Star Trek period. And it's just the Giant No. No, it's the one where where spot I guess spoilers, okay, right, but it's like he basically has to go back in time on Vulcan, and he counters himself as a young boy, right.

55:02 He has to sort of pretend to be like, you know, you can't just say hi, I'm you as an older version of you, right because it just grew up the time and stuff. Right, he has to pretend to be like a traveler, I have a traveler for a different region, right. And I just thought it was it's so beautifully written, and it's just, you know, what is it? What are these shows? Right? Twenty two minutes long? Maybe you know because they just threw commercials in like there was no tomorrow because it's Saturday morning cartoons, right, they want to sell cereal, right, and so they're short, they're just a little, tiny short things. But there was so much care put into that one and so so well written. It's like you can see that you can really write a great story in just like twenty minutes. So if you've never seen that, friends in the audience, amazing so good.

55:49 Yeah, I mean, you get you get the Guardiana Forever, you get the the winged people what are they called again? That are really the winged bird beak scientist guy whose race I can't think of right now? That we actually yeah, we just saw on Prodigy. Right in Prodigy, Yeah, yeah, I'm spacing out on them too. Right on that you get you get An and Dorian, and if I remember sort of a gray skinned and Dorian, you get the scene where the original scene which they then played with later in both The Star Trek two thousand and nine and I believe was it Discover Your Strange New Worlds where they kind of go back to Spock's childhood years when he's you know, coming up with all of the other students and kind of how much they pick on him because he's half human. There's just like there's like a million things packed it, like Paul said, packed into that twenty two minutes that I completely agree and make it one of the best episodes of Star Trek ever. And I can't believe I blanked on the name of it, but yeah, it's it's fantastic. If you haven't seen Yesteryear, you need to go check it out.

57:01 Well, it sounds like Uncle Jim has gotten pulled into a a an air lock or a portal or something, so we may be having to proceed and and pick him back on our next trip to the Solar System. So sorry Uncle Jim, but what do you think, fellas, should we go to birthdays? You want to do that next job? Oh? There we are, Oh not that. And of course this is the part of the show where we always begin our stepping all over the audio what's wrong with me? This is the part of the show where we always pay homage to those members of our Star Trek family who have gone on before us. And for that we turned to Eric Paul.

57:53 You're an excellent Jim. Thank you so much. Yeah, our first remembrance this week goes back to actor Richard Compton. Richard Compton Compton was a director, writer, and producer who began his career as an actor, during which he appeared in two episodes of Star Trek the original series, The Doomsday Machine and The Enterprise Incident. And Sadly we lost Richard Compton back in two thousand and seven at the age of sixty nine years old. Happy Birthday, March second. This past March second, nineteen thirty eight, Happy birthday to Richard Compton. Happy birthday as well to actor Eddie Heis.

58:34 He was the stuntman and actor who worked on the original series third season episodes Day of the Dove and Wink of An Eye, where he appeared as a security guard. He also appeared in Star Trek four The Voyage Home, where he played a Mercy Hospital patient Eddie. Heis lived to be the ripe old age of eighty five years old. We lost him back in twenty fifteen. Happy birthday to Eddie. Happy birthday as well to Anne Haney. She's the actress who played Rishawn Ucksbridge in the Next Generation third season episode The Survivors. She also played els Renora in the DS nine first season episode Dax Lost back in two thousand and one at sixty seven years old. Happy birthday to Anne Hainey. Happy birthday to James B. Sicking. He is the actor who played Lawrence H. Stiles with a nice mustache in Star Trek three, The Search for Spock.

59:35 We lost him just last July and he was ninety years old, so hopefully he lived a long and prosperous life. James Sicking, Happy birthday this past March fifth, just yesterday. Happy birthday as well to a heavy hitter in many respects but relatively brief appearances here in Star Trek. Mister Dean Stockwell was the award winning actor who portrayed Gret in the Star Trek Enterprise first season episode Detained. Yeah, he was in Star Trek two. Of course, most people remember him from Quantum Leap, and then later on just what ten years ago or so, he played spoiler Alert, one of the Cylons in the new Battlestar Galactica. Fantastic actor.

1:00:25 I think he's a face that just about everybody recognizes at this point, and I remember when he showed up in Star Trek Enterprise. I was like, Oh, I know who that is. So a real treat to have him as part of the Star Trek universe. We lost him just back in twenty twenty one at eighty five years old. Happy Birthday to Dean Stockwell. Happy birthday as well to John Hancock. He's the actor who played Vice Admiral Hayden in the Next Generation third and fourth season episodes The Defector and the Wounded. Happy Birthday too on Hancock loss back in nineteen ninety two. Happy Birthday as well to Joy Garrett.

1:01:07 She was the actress and vocalist who played Annie in the TNG six season episode A Fistful of Datas, and unfortunately we would lose her just a couple of years later at the young young age of forty seven years old. Happy birthday to Joy Garrett and our big, big, big Birthday. This week, March third, nineteen twenty, the world was graced with the presence of James Doohan. He's the Canadian actor, of course, best known for his betrayal as Montgomery Scottie Scott on the original series and in the first seven Star Trek movies. He also appeared in the Next Generation episode Relics, and has made liberal appearances recently in some of the IDW Star Trek comics, which has been kind of fun to see his visage revisited. At this point, I think anybody who loves Star Trek would tell you that the Enterprise wouldn't even be there without Scotty, Right.

1:02:06 How many times has he saved the day? How many times has he promised and then over delivered on a promise? How many times has he saved all of humanity with the things that he's done. I just think he's a super special actor. I didn't know until years later that he was. He was missing a finger, right, because he got it shot off in the war, and they tried to hide that most of the time on the screen so as to not make a big deal out of it. But this guy was a real a real war hero, a real military man, and it was a pleasure to have him as our chief engineer on the original series Enterprise.

1:02:49 Would anybody else like to say anything about Scotty while we're here, I just feel like this is one of those people that a lot of people have a super connection to. Well, I can just say that I didn't know about his finger either. And if you guys look at the top left green, you can actually shoot the machine on his right hand when he's holding up their star plaque. So yeah, I was actually shocked myself to hear about that. But other than that, yeah, he's I guess, you know, one of my favorite characters now because I'm kind of acting like him on the podcast. But other than that, yeah, not much elf to say from me.

1:03:33 And I just think he's really, uh, you know, I think perhaps underappreciated member of the of the original series ensemble, just because it's like he's a supporting character, right, he's nowhere, not like, you know, one of the big three. But when he steps up to the plate, right and and he's got you know, whatever it may be, it's like, Okay, there's a problem and Scotty's in command because everyone else is trapped on the planet. Right. He's just always just magnetic to watch. He's just fascinating, right, he just brings all that energy. He's relatable. Right. There's episodes where he gets too drunk, right, and he just gets like he's just he's just unfiltered. He's just who he is. He's fiercely loyal. He'll start a bar fight because somebody insults the his ship. He's just very believable as a as a as a person, right, and just just great. I'm looking at this slide that David threw up here, and all this time I had no idea that he did the voice work for the M five computer and Ultimate Computer.

1:04:36 I had no idea. I mean, I knew he'd done some you know, additional voices and stuff like for mister Rix, but I had no clue that M five that was him. That's great to still be able to learn things about the little hidden corners of Starter all these days. But what a what a great guy, you know, just super charismatic and uh and relatable, just a fast, fantastic character. And since Jim can't really comment on Scotty, I'll comment for him. From Jim's Favorite movie comes probably one of the best Scotti lines ever in my opinion, where he says I know this ship like the back of my hand and then proceeds to bonk his head and knock himself out on a bold head. That made me laugh.

1:05:21 So so that is if our remembrances. Happy birthday to mister James Doohan, lost all the way back in two thousand and five at eighty five years old. Happy birthday to him. I guess he would have been one hundred and five this week if he was still around. So that does it for our remembrances. So Charles, I'm gonna pass this flaming birthday candle over to you, sir. Oh, thank you. Eric. Let's start off on a Happy birthday to Michelle Horn, actress who played Saying He and DS nine six and seven season episodes Tears, the Prophet and Penanumbra. Happy birthday to Alex Daniels, stunt met actor and coordinator who performed a large any creature in TNG's second season episode The Dolphin.

1:06:20 Happy birthday to Heidi Swingberg, actress from Honolulu, Hawaii, who played Releaking from the d S nine second season episode Prophets and Losses. Happy birthday to Marine mosey Man, actress who played the cultured woman in Star Trek's Next Generation second season episode Loud as a Whisper. Mosey Man has been married to the Q actor John de La John. We get cut off, but John from Q. Happy birthday to Jolene Bladlock, best nine for a role as they've all been silent. Act officer to Paul in Star Trek Enterprises and Lower Decks. She also played to Paul's second fore mother, great grandmother tam Or in the enterprise episode Carbon Creek episode. We've done a lot of discussion over, so let me pass this flaming, flaming candle over to Paul.

1:07:34 All right, excellent, thank you, Charles, appreciate it. Okay, Well, first of all, Happy birthday to the wonderful Stephanie Beacham all right, British actress who played Regina Bartholomew in Next Generation six season episode Ship in a Bottle. Phenomenal, phenomenal work, of course, that's one of the great I just love the Sherlock Holmes Moriarty stories, all right, and god, and this one in particular, it's just it's probably more relevant now because this episode really dialed in and started talking about like machine consciousness, right, and artificial intelligence and artificial consciousness, so I would you know, I think it's probably more more relevant now than ever. But she was just delightful in this and really matches up great with Moriarty. It's just like it's like Moriarty's I'm watching Moriarty start dating.

1:08:26 It's a weird concept, right, but it just really works, and she was just very charming and delightful. And of course sci fi addicts like all of us are going to remember Stephanie Beacham from her turn is Doctor Christen Westphalen in the first season of sequest DSV that undersee it never You never see it around any much anymore. But we don't live in a syndicated TV universe anymore. But I haven't seen the episode of that in forever, but a lot of fun. I mean, it's crazy when you think that Roy Scheider did a Voyaged the Bottom of the Sea type episode with a crazy amount of science fiction and it just nuts but fun to look out. But again, part of the great oove of Stephanie Beacham. So happy birthday to you. And delightful to acknowledge you.

1:09:09 Happy birthday also to Harvey Jason. Born in London, England. He's the son of Alec Jason and he is married to actress Pamela Franklin. Harvey played the role of Felix Leech in the TNG first season episode The Big good Bye, another Holo Deck episode there, and if you peek down at that last frame on the right there of that slide, you'll see that He was also had a memorable turn as an ill fated explorer on the second Jurassic Park movie, The Lost World. So fantastic. He's like the if I remember correctly, in The Big Good Guy Bye, he's like the Peter Lorie character, right, He's kind of, you know, like, oh, don't do it, Yeah, don't do it. You know, whatever you're going to do, just you know, just you know, the kind of Weasley guy who's maybe a little trigger happy underneath it all. So cool performance.

1:09:58 I forgot he was on bed Man. That's that's really cool. Oh god, he was, wasn't he? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't know which character that is just one off, but yeah, yeah, But but those those shows are really fun to look at. Now. My God, everybody was on Batman. I mean, it's crazy everybody was on Batman. Oh yeah, it does look like Colonel Mustard. And just in case you're interested, you can watch sequest DSV. I just looked it up. You can look at you can watch it either on Peacock or Apple TV or of course it's purchasable from Amazon. But if you've got TV, that might be your best option. Cool. It would be really fun to go look at the pilot again, right, because it's just like I remember, I was working nights a lot when that show came out, and I missed a lot of it during its initial rotation, right, So be fun to go look at that. Just a big Roy Scheider fan in general, So any excuse? Moving on, Happy birthday to Joeanna Miles, actress who played wonderfully the character of parent Sara's second wife if you Will in Next Gen's third season episode Sarak and also the fifth season kickoff for the Unification two parter Unification one, which is great, and it was you know, I guess Sarah just had a thing for human women. I guess he's got he's got kind of a kind of a what would you call it, a kick. You know a thing.

1:11:24 I don't know what you call it type, but you can call it a kink. I don't know. It's just like you know, and we all have things that we like. Right, But. But yeah, that was definitely uh, you know, to be careful at uh, you know, diplomatic gatherings when uh Sarac is you know in his widow or face, he's going to be going up to you know, every human female around. How so what do you do? How in control of your emotions? Are you. Just wondering what those interim periods were? Like, I think, you know, we need we need a one on. I'd rather see a movie like that than Section thirty one. Frankly, I would have watched that to death, like Sarak dating in between between music, in the background, between unions, the untold story of Sarek. I would watch that death. Okay, well one of miles. Sorry, we're having fun at your expense.

1:12:20 But it's a great And what is the deal with the making the women on Vulcan wear these gigantic necklaces? That is just enormous. I mean it looks like you're like, you know, a fish tank there. But what a great performance she was delightful in that and whoa is that the that's the emosa seeing here. I love seeing the slides here. If you're not on, get on the Patreon thing if you want to see the things we're all interacting to. We have a recurring slideshow that goes on during the podcast. A lot of people don't realize, but that's that's what you get to see, is all of our ugly mugs and canned video as well, if you chip in the extra buck or two a month or whatever it is. But it's fun to do. But I had no idea she was that one judge in the Judge Dread movie, just alone, the first Judge Dread movie.

1:13:06 It's the Loon. It's a lot of fun. So wow, amazing. I know that she was roound with Catherine Heppern there. Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking that she probably had a big stage career because she seems like somebody who's just got the control of somebody's from stage background. So happy birthday, Joanna Miles. Great to be able to acknowledge you and honor you, so thank you. We got a couple of big ones coming up. First of all, Happy birthday to the lovely Barbara Luna. And if you're a Mirror Mirror fan and watched any of the shows from the sixties and seventies, you would have seen Barbara Luna. She got cast in practically everything old sixties sci fi staples like The Invaders, The Wild wild West, Mission Impossible, The Outer Limits.

1:13:54 After Star Trek, she was in Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth century. I mean, you know, John a Queen, I would say, right, and still out there wreaking havoc from what I've seen on social media, still very much out there in the Hollywood scene there. But we're acknowledging her for the really two part characters she played in the Mere Mirror episode, right, she played quote unquote Captain's Woman Marlena Moreau right for Evil Kirk, and then her Prime Universe counterpart as just a you know, polite, nice girl yeoman on the U, you know, on the Captain's bridge there. But really cool performance and h and really what a treat for her to get to be able to be in all of those shows. I mean, man, I mean that's a that's a There's some great stuff happening on TV back in those days, and she was part of so much of it. So really exciting. All right, hold a minute, got to find it.

1:14:53 Where is it? I'm I'm looking around. I'm trying to find my my special festive candle that I prepared specific fleet. Is that your ghost candle? This is my ghost candle, which I will be eliminating momentarily because friends do it on the air. People, Well, yeah, this is not a family program, not all the time. I don't have the shoot the I for that kind of animation. It's all right, man, I'll narrate. I'll narrate. I'll describe what I'm feeling. David. It's okay, because we're here to celebrate the awesome that is the spectacular. Gates McFadden legend of the Star Trek universe, Okay, who portrayed Beverly Crusher in almost all of the episodes of the Next Generation and in four Next Generation films, and came back again very very recently for the third season of her card.

1:15:45 I don't see how you can even think Star Trek with the thing of Gates McFadden. She is his institution, and I just think a phenomenal performer. She's been in a ton of other things as well. She was in the Muppets Take Manhattan, which she was just starting out as a like a theatrical producer's you know, Harryed secretary if you will, right, it's just hilarious. She was originally the main character's wife, and the first when Alec Baldwin was running the Jack Ryan franchise for Hunt for Red October, before Harrison Ford stepped in. She was like missus Ryan, you know, with the you know, with the kids and all that stuff like that. But of course for us, she's always gonna Beverly crusher, except you know that, you know, season two. I mean, you could really dig into this whole thing, because it sounds like they did not treat the women performers on the first season of Next Gen all that great. And from what I understand, Gates McFadden isn't exactly a shrinking Violet. She kind of, you know, says what she thinks. And I think she was just kind of like, you know, Sea, I'm not gonna put up with this, and out she went, and they realized, Wow, they tried it with somebody else, very memorably for some of our trek for its here, we have nothing against the work that was done by a doctor Pulaski in season two. But I think a lot of us we missed our doctor Crusher, right, And she just kept coming back and being more and more fascinating from season to

1:17:16 season to season. She directed seven season episode Genesis, and that in Data's Day, classic Data episode that we all know, right, and they do the whole dancing thing together. That was all her work putting that together, because she was a Broadway hoofer long before she came into television, right, And she did all that dance choreography herself, so it was super long career on the boards as a dancer and a stage performer before she broke into Hollywood there. But I just think she's great. I mean, she's It's interesting because Crusher gets kind of people sometimes erroneously think that that's a one dimensional character just because she tends to be very calm and focused in a lot of situations.

1:18:01 But that's how you want your doctor to be calm and focused. Okay, let me tell you that's that's numero uno. When you're dealing with the physician. He wants somebody who can not freak out and and basically and there's a lot of really surprising moments for her throughout the The Star Trek series. And you know, people joke a lot about the Ghost Scandal episode, right, I mean they do, but it's actually a really you know, the one scene aside, it's a really interesting performance, right, and she gets to really show you sides of doctor Crusher that we hadn't seen before. So it's a why am I blanking on that episode title? Eric, it's.

1:18:41 Ghost Candle and Crusher. Yeah, I don't remember. It is a acting me. I should know it if I should probably have a tattooed on my you know, thigh. But uh, it's just she's great in that it's a really good performance, and it's a chance to see different sides of the character Subarosa, thank you, thank you. M Yeah, but I just think, you know, there's a lot lot of characters, yeah, where she's just basically opening the medical try corder and being you know, sympathetic and whatnot. But there's a lot of other episodes where she really got to show a tremendous range and uh, and and just really brought a lot of depth to the group relationships, right in particular, her just ongoing relationship with Guard is just delightful.

1:19:24 Well to what you were saying before she tells a story when you see her on stage at conventions where she kept trying to push herself to become one of the directors of one of the movies, and she was just like constantly running into brick walls with the producers of Star Trek and was never given the opportunity past those couple of episodes that she got to direct, which is too bad because I think that she's probably a pretty darn good director. I mean, those episodes are are great, and I think that she could have done a lot with you know, she'd been given more opportunities. But another kind of start, not really Star Trek adjacent, but another Muppets Take Manhattan adjacent thing that she did was that she was actually the director of choreography and puppet movement for Labyrinth.

1:20:17 Oh god, yeah, yeah that's right. I forgot all about that. Yeah, she's amazing, right, And you know, I mean, look at uh, look at the career Wrikers had as a director, right, I mean, you know, I mean just I think directors, really good directors have spent some time acting, and they understand how actors work, understand the process, and uh, you know, how to relate how to build a character, how to communicate better with the cast, right, So that's a real shame. Definitely. Uh, you know, all the props in the world were pushing back against the patriarchy. That just sucks. I just like, I hate to see that that so many, you know, women creatives were treated so poorly and sometimes still are.

1:20:58 Hopefully we're making some progress that area, but I just I'm a huge fan. I just think Gates McFadden is amazing and just just the you know, she was phenomenal on me. I'll tell you my one little Gates McFadden story, which is totally ajacent and doesn't really mean too much, but one of the greatest joys that I've ever had in my life was when we got to see the podcast. Was invited down to the Picard season one premiere, which Charles and I went to. When we were down there, and as we were heading into the theater to watch the first episode, who should I find myself walking directly next to but miss Gates McFadden herself. And I will tell you that I was enamored, Like I just didn't even know what to do. It's one of those moments where you kind of want to say something, but you realize that you'll kind of look like a jerk if you do, so I ended up not saying anything, and I just decided that I was going to bask in her aura as much as possible and just kind of trying to absorb as much. Gates McFadden as I good for that short walk up the aisle into the theater.

1:22:04 But it was amazing. Yeah, wow, well amazing. I envy that for sure, but yeah, I would have been a moment. But we salute you, Gates McFadden, and I hope we get to see more of you. I hope that, if there's any justice in the universe, doctor Crusher has not hung up her laser scalpel yet and is still gonna that we'll see more of you in the future. I mean, but you know, I still think that Picard final season there was a great, you know, exit for everybody. I mean, they ended on a really high note and was just quite lovely. But I think everyone's certainly still hoping at some point for more. But yeah, wonderful performer. Maybe I wonder if she's still directing. I need to look into that offline, But that's what I've got here. Should I just keep going, and yeah, let's keep going where Jim's uh disconnected, So apologies for that, but I'm going to go in here for Jim. You may see some Klingons in here because Uncle Jim likes to cling on his list.

1:23:02 But first of all, before we go there, let's say happy birthday to Ethan pack Year, who is now a luminary of great stature because he started off playing Fock, which is no mean feat, right. I think it's one of the ones you're an actor, you're like, oh, can I do this? I mean, it's really stepping into someone else's shoes who's created such an indelible character. It's no easy thing, right, But in the second season of Discovery, Ethan Peck stepped up to the plate, and in two episodes there of Discovery and subsequent short treks, reprised the role as Spock and became ultimately so popular in the role that he became a series regular on Strange New Worlds.

1:23:43 And it's been really open about the fact that he is working on the character as we go. He's not like I have it all figured out right away. It's like he's open about the fact that he wants to get better as he goes and get deeper, and he's you know, I really think it's refreshing to hear someone talk about there, you know, their humility in terms of, like, you know, publicly and he's not wrapped in mystique, but he's just like talking about it, which is great and acknowledging that he's you know, wanting to build as he goes. So I think it's great. And also you know what lineage, right, he's the grandson of the great Gregory Peck, you know, which is one of my all time favorite actors, like ever all right, the legendary, So I mean, what a what a stable to pull from disincredible, but but Ethan Peck.

1:24:28 We eagerly look forward to the next season of Strange in Worlds, and hopefully we're going to find out when that's going to be soon. Probably it's going to be in May, fellas I would say, if there's any you know, I mean that's not that it's March here now, and I'm betting that by the end of this month that will have a premier date. Probably, yeah, we need to have it. I mean, it could it could be June, but they've been kind of dropping little hints here and there, and I suspect that we'll know soon, so hang in there. And it looks looks like from what I've seen from the guest we have coming on the show Sunday for our special episode with Ben Robinson from Master Replicas. One of the absolute first figures that Master Replicas is featuring in their brand brand Brand spank, a new series of Star Trek figures is going to be an Ethan Peck.

1:25:20 So pretty cool way to inaugurate things and and get that line started with class and excitement. So very cool. So Ethan Peck, Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday goes out also to Tracy Lee Coco, actress, model and stunt woman who has been just replete throughout the Star Trek franchise. She was on Next Generation all the time, Deep Space nine Voyager, she repaired, Repaired, appeared as her regular character. Yeah, she read it ever down and then you got to just take a panel off in repair. But she appeared as a regular called Lieutenant Jay, a regular character on the show between the fourth in seventh seasons. Whenever somebody had to scoury off to the trebo lift, she jump over to that navigator station and jump over to Helm Console and then Pinch Hit if need be, you know, but.

1:26:11 Three episodes, sixty three sixty three episodes, she was in of next generation. That's just next gen. That's not that's not that's oh, that's just next gen. That talking about like deep space. Oh my god, that's a lot of generations. I mean she was yeah, yeah, yeah, she was in generations and I think subsequent like First Contact Insurrection as well. So that's a lot of a lot of track. That's a lot of trick going on, I'll tell you that. So you saw during the intro a picture of Jim and I with her, and she is one of the most delightful human beings I have ever met in my life. She I've never felt so welcomed by a person who didn't know who I was. Like, she literally was like, Eric's so nice to meet you. Gave me a big hug the first time I met her, never met her before in my life. It was like we've been lifelong friends.

1:27:01 So I'll just tell you that she instantly, if she wasn't already, she instantly at that moment, became one of my favorite Star Trek personalities of all time because she just was so warm, right from the. Get how So what you're saying is she's a real introvert. Yeah, no, she's super extroverted. She was big, she was Hollywood like, you know, run out there, hug everybody, do you think right? That's totally great? Well, happy birthday to you, Tracy Lee. And wonder what we'll see you in next would be my question there, so we will find out. Happy birthday goes out to J. D. Cullum, who, uh, I don't even know if I can say it right, but I don't even know, But who can do it worth myself to? He played Son of Very Good the Next Gen's fourth and fifth season classic two part episodes Redemption and Redemption Part two. So great. I mean, man, it was just like it's it's a gift to make somebody just instantly hate you on camera. I think you got to be you know, you just got to have a thing right and I don't know what it is, but man, did we not like you in that role?

1:28:24 Like right out of the gate, Right out of the gate. I mean that's that's that's that's craftsmanship. I mean, you just you got to be able to you know, have a lot going on there, and it's just well, read and well performed just so great. And he's just like you know, joined at the hip with the Duras sisters, right, Theda sisters. Right. I mean, I'm not distracting at all, but and then subsequent roles and looks on the Orville there as well. Jim Jihow. Yeah, so it's great Star. Trek and fun Star Trek Trivia. He's the second Tarral canonically in Star Trek because Star Trek Enterprise had the original Toral who was also in the House of Doras.

1:29:06 But from the Enterprise and episodes, judgment and the expanse, no. Am I looking at a typo then here is that you should be Toral and that is that's sounding more familiar because my show notes say Torah as in Tora. There's supposed to be an l on there. Yeah yeah, okay, wow, okay, unforgivable. I'm going to speak to the copy editor at the Daily Planet and give him a sound or knuckle rapping with my rulers. Let's typos are unforgivable. I feel very strongly about them. And let's wrap up our birthday segment with saying happy birthday to the wonderful Patrick Masset. Okay, who is just again Klingon of Klingons, And again, what better intro did we ever give him? Because boy, did you think we did not like Toral? I think people like practically through like tomatoes at the screen when do showed up? Okay, I mean, wow, he just this guy is just what other question?

1:30:08 Oh? Okay? Now, Patrick mass that we're talking about him because of his you know, indelible work as Duras in third and fourth season Next Gen episodes classic worst Redemption art right, Sins of the Father and then Reunion, Right, and what does Durass do that is the most unforgivable sin of all dishonors if I'm not unless I'm really mistaken. He kills Klar Oh yeah he does. Yeah, I beloved Susie Plaxon, guest of the show, But yeah, Durrass just bastard of Bastard's head needs to be on a pike in front of the main palace of Kronos, right, I mean just oh, and the moral comp promises people have to make for this piece of crap, I mean, throughout those episodes, it's just terrible. But this guy is phenomenal. He's a force of nature, actor, writer, director, producer done just a million different things, but man, he's one of the all time.

1:31:17 I mean, if Uncle Jim, we're able to communicate with us right now, Uncle Jim, send us a sign if you can from the beyond. I don't know what you're gonna do, but send us a sign. I would argue. I would argue that dress is one of the all time great Klingons ever. I mean, just because he's so despicable, right, I would you know, killing karma, says Uncle Jim. So there we go. But it's just so great. I mean again, when you really love to hate a bad guy, you've created an indelible bad guy. And ladies and gentlemen audiences across the globe. That wraps up our weekly trek talking birthday tribute. We have paid tribute to those who have gone beyond into the undiscovered country of the ether, and we've paid tribute to those who are still kicking it and rocking and rolling and popping champagne corks left and right.

1:32:13 Some one just hit me in the head. That must have been Barbara Luna. But anyhow, I think that that covers everybody, and I think we still have time to do a little Star Trek News, Fellas, what do you think? Try already one message from Starfleet coming in on secure. Channel, incoming transmission enter authorization code, command codes verified, Define parameters of program level nine authorization required, specifying parameters. Transfer updata is complete. A blank alert, A blank alert. And because here on Trek talking part of our many trucksport duties, there is one of us who likes to hang around near what I would call the the United Federation of Planets crypt whose keeping track of who's dead, right and you know, paying you know, special attention to those folks who have moved on.

1:33:06 Right. That's why Eric has the you know, Remembrances segment every week, right, but to keep track of this from historical perspective. So it's only fitting that Eric take on this first story of the night. Would you agree, my friend. I would completely agree. I'm also guessing that there's a secondary reason I was given this one due to Robert Orse's crossover into one of my other favorite franchises, Transformers Roberto or Sie Dies Star Trek, Transformers and Hawaii five to ozho writer producer was only fifty one years old. Roberto Bob Gaston or See a writer producer who worked on some of the biggest action adventure in sci fi movies and television shows for the first two decades of the century, died in his home in Los Angeles after a battle with kidney disease. He was fifty one years old.

1:33:55 Born and raised in Mexico City, or he moved to the United States with his family when he was ten. He started off as a writer producer on Zena Warrior, Princess, and Hercules the Legendary Journeys, and for most of his career was partnered with Alex Kurtzman. Orse was co writer producer on the two thousand and nine Star Trek movie reboot and its two sequels, as well as on the two thousand and seven Transformers movie and the two thousand and nine follow up Transformers Revenge of the Fallen. Orsey's feature credits also include writing work on Mission Impossible three and The Legend of Zoro, and producing on the Now You See Me franchise, The Proposal, Eagle Eye, The Mummy, as well as The Spider Man two, which he also co wrote. In television, Orsy was co creator executive producer on CBS's Hawaii five zero reboot and on Fox's Fringe, which I also loved, and Sleepy Hollow. He also worked on ABC's Alias and CBS's Scorpion. Orsi has it's been on his own since Ko Paper Products, his company with Kurtzman, was dissolved in twenty sixteen. His most recent venture was Rubber Room Media, a writer driven production company.

1:35:13 Quote. Everyone at Fox is saddened by the loss of our friend and colleague Roberto Orsi, The network said in a statement. He was an incredibly talented creator, writer, and executive producer, especially known at Fox for being part of the creative team behind our wonderful, groundbreaking sci Fi inspired drama's Fringe and Sleepy Hollow. Our thoughts and deepest condolences are with Bob's family and loved ones at this time. Orsi, who was public about his past struggles with alcoholism and his recovery, is survived by his father Roberto Orci, senior, mother Maquis rabau Garcia, stepmom Jeanine Orci, siblings j R. Orc, Taylor Orsi, and Courtney Ford, and his dog Bogie.

1:36:00 Quote. He was a visionary storyteller with a boundless heart and a beautiful soul. Jr. Orse He said, but beyond his creative talents. He was a compassionate friend who would put his life on hold to help a stranger and find room in his home for the most overlooked up at the shelter. At the time of his death, Orsie and his estranged wife, actress Adele Heather Taylor, had dueling lawsuits pending, each accusing the other of assault and abuse. We are extremely saddened on the podcast here by the loss of Roberto Orsi. Of course none of us knew him, but it's clear that his influence was throughout so many of the entertainment franchises that we really appreciate on the podcast here. And I can say that, you know, as co writer producer of so many of these great things like the newer Star Trek movies or Fringe in particular, which was a show that I really got into at the time that was on.

1:36:59 His sort of talent only comes along every so often, and it's really sad when somebody has lost this early in life to a terrible, terrible disease. So that just goes to show that medical research is really important and hopefully in the future we'll be able to cure things like the terrible kidney disease he was lost from So that is our remembrance story for this week. And it looks like we have a Strange New World's season four story, Charles, would you like to take that one on. Back up? Sure? Star Treks Strange Deal World season four production officially underway while we wait word on the third season, Paramount Plus's antson Mount Rebecca Rejane Ethan Pech starring Star Trek Schange Deal World will premiere. You've got some good news in the fourth season to pass along with immag spotlighting Mount holding a clapboard Peck and Cela Rose Gooding, The streaming services confirmed that production of the fourth season was officially underway.

1:38:13 Back in November twenty twenty four, Jess Bush nurse Christine Chappell shared with pix eleven nudes in support of her new art installation Be Totem. The season three will hopefully come out early next year twenty twenty five, and at the fourth season, we'll begin filming this month during Sandy Yukama CON's twenty twenty four presentation. Earlier this summer, the first look at the clip was released that finds the crew forts become Falcans to complete a mission. But let's just say it doesn't quite work out for Kine's Pella.

1:38:54 In addition, we learned that. Selena Cilean from the Cold, has tapped in for a recurring role as doctor Roger Corby, and Martha Quinn's Scottie has been up to a series regular. Wow, and we're definitely looking out forward to definitely looking forward to that. Yeah, I mean season three coming out soon. We know Season four is on the way, which is really cool. And the only thing that I want to mention about this story, which was kind of an aside in here, was that if you haven't seen Jess Bush's b Totem, look it up online. It is a heck of an art installation. And I didn't even know the caliber of artists that she was until I saw that. So go check that out if you haven't seen it before. And it looks like we've got time for one more story, Paul.

1:39:51 All right, Wow, excited to see very cool this whole mentioning of doctor Roger Corby old school. Yeah, another shot right another. Very very curious to see that. So I like when there's those those kind of callbacks could be really cool. So I'm very curious see what they do with it. So we'll find out. And I feel like I'm about to sneeze. I hope I can master it and prevent it from keeping my nasal membranes here. So we will see. But first I'm going to attempt writing the mute button, like you know, like a jockey at the Kentucky Derby. I'm gonna attempt to tell you all about the first wave of the Nacelle Companies Star Trek figures that are now available for pre order. Wow, this is pretty exciting news, and I would argue a bold and daring release as well, because after announcing their first batch of Star Trek figures back in October, the na Cell Company is now taking pre orders right now for these pre ordering figures for delivery later this year. I'm here in hopefully October, assuming we still have a civilization. Then the first group of the nas Cell Companies figures, which are between six and seven inches tall, kind of your one twelve scale type deal here. If you used to collect the Diamond Select figures, those kind of six inch bad boys, you know what I'm talking about. This is just near a more modern evolution of those, with you know, the improved technology that

1:41:25 action figures have now since those days there, So we have got a wave including Mirror Jonathan Archer right from Star Trek Enterprise, Valchris from Star Trek three, the Star Triss Bock two vis from Star Trek Voyager, who question stated his post from Wrath of Khan Wayun from Deep Space nine, Captain Kru Sulu from the Undiscovered Country, Yeah, my, and Captain Rachel Garrett uh from Star Trek Next Generation. Who did we forget here? This poorly edited article is for god in somebody, why it's forgotten? Admiral Jellico, right, do we have the ability to go back and look at any of those again? David is the okay? Because there's there's the there's the Mirror Enterprise Archer there because you like to pour Champagne on his face? Right, So he he did? He comes with that. Look at that.

1:42:23 You got the full on Valcris there with the Genesis Torpedo, which is an amazing accessory, really generous with the accessories on this line. I have to say, it's just preposterous. There we have our good friend Tuviks with all kinds of stuff there, multiple accessories and and at least one face golf, which is great. You get to Peter Preston. There is a special face exploded version of Peter Preston, which is great. And if you just wait, there seems to be a theme that we're seeing here, because first let's look at wayun here with all of. The half eat I'm not sure. Maybe it is half eating piece of pizza. That's what I see too, David. And then oh, there's mister Sulu.

1:43:03 How do we resist getting him? I don't think we can. I think it's a must. Yeah, it's pretty great. But here's that theme exploded heads. They even give you the alternate head for Rachel Garrett where she's got the giant piece of like, you know, aluminum in her forehead there, so you know, what a shame. And there he is, Jellico, get that fish out of my office, right, I mean, there's nice still back there. So there's a sense of humor to a lot of the accessories that are putting together in this wave here. I don't know if we have a picture of it, but they also just did a little sneak preview giving us a look at William Shatner sculpt from the highlight of the second wave that's coming following. I think due to be announced pretty soon, certainly in the next couple of months. But it's one of the best. It's from the Monster Maroon era of Admiral Kirk right, and it's a dynamite sculpt I gotta say it's one of the best sculpts I've ever scene of Shatner. It's really in there, So kudos to everybody at Nassel there. I'm really hoping to get.

1:44:07 Uh. I don't want to miss up the guy's name because I really hate that. Is it Brian Volkweiss. Sorry doing this on air is so rude, but I don't want to. Yeah, Brian Vulkweiss is the mastermind at Nassel Toys, Okay, and he's the one who, basically, I think from what I get the sense, kind of put this whole thing together and shows deliberately not to just necessarily go with like, you know, top tier Oosduce balk Os, Drew Kirk you know, but to do more obscure characters, a deliberate choice right, to do characters that have never been figured before or featured as figures before. Let's make that not sound quite so odd, And to really go crazy with touchstones right, like the Aquarium diorama there and lots of generous successories.

1:45:03 Did you ever think you'd see a Peter Preston figure. I don't think so. I never thought i'd see. He's got opinions, this guy, right, and he really he's it's it's a risky move in this day and age, but I think there it is excellent work. David. Look at that skulp that quickly. Yeah, David, I'm telling you you just you moved up to the You're no longer a lower decker baby, You're Yeah, you're in the captain's chair now. As far as I'm concerned. That. Is a phenomenal. Look at that. That's that bodes well for a toy line success. I think so. And from what I understand subsequent waves, he was probably going to do like you know, full bridge crew waves. Right, So if like you want to get all the Deep Space nine characters, you can probably get him all in a wave, right, You wouldn't have to just sort of, you know, keep parsing him out over and over and over, right, and wait, oh I got to this way. We're going to wait two more waves to get the rest of them, right.

1:46:02 I think he's going to try to be completionist that way. So I'm excited for it. I'm I'm you know, I love that because you know, Brian is doing the six inch six and a half inch wave of figures our guest on the Sunday Show, Ben is going to be doing from Master Replicas, Ben Robinson's going to be doing figures are more precisely aligned with the Playmates waves, right, those four point seventy five five inch scale figures that a lot of us really missed out on. Play Playmates tried to resurrect their line and just couldn't do it. It just dropped the ball hard. Sorry playmates, but you really did unpleasant. And so Ben Robinson is trying to come in here and resurrect that scale figure. So I think with the kind of choices, I think what makes these figures succeed is making you know, cool character choices, not recycling things, doing things we've never seen before that you never even knew you wanted. That's what I see coming from them to sell here, which is really exciting.

1:47:02 And I think you're going to see a similar deep bench pulls from what Master Replicas does and hopefully they can coexist being in different scales. I like to think that both toy lines will do really, really well, and so we're going to be talking again this coming Sunday. We're going to be doing a special show with Master Replica's very own Ben Robinson, who's just one of the Trek luminaries that there is. I mean, the guy's a massive fan writer, editor, toy aficionado. I mean, this guy's great and making time for us and his incredibly busy UK schedule, which is we're like hours apart over here in the United States, and it's great that we've got him lined up to be able to break some bread with us and disclose a few things, if you know what I'm saying. So it should be very exciting on this week's show, But I think we're running up against the bottom of the hour here, Pals again, we should all, you know, give one of the East Uncle Jim, who got technically separated from us, sorry to miss you on I'm reminded of Tholian Web right when Kirk just just went out of phase and he's like, I'm over here and then they missed him. He couldn't fight. What is he saying? Can you understand?

1:48:19 He's like, I'm sorry, JOm, I couldn't get to the platform. Yeah, we'll try to catch you on the next orbit, captain. Right, it's like that. So apologies for Uncle Jim not being here to finish things off, but you know we're all here to do whatever row whatever or his need rowing. Right, So gentlemen, shall we all say our fond farewells? And uh, David, you rocked it, dude. I mean to be able to pull that uh oh, look at that all those pictures of Oscar Winner. Oh, don't even get me started. We'll save that for the next episode. I'm still recovering from the candle segment. But David, you pulled that Shatner picture right out of your ear there. I don't know how you did that, but but thanks for being our mastermind of all things visual and whatnot.

1:49:09 Yeah, no, it's been really fun. I hope to do some more for you guys. Always always, Charles Man, thanks for hanging in there dude and beaming in from the other side of the vortex. Sorry, navigator was playing around thumping things around. So yeah, Charles got like I think Charles lives as if I you know, you don't always know, so you all you get is from what you see in the occasional passage through the camera. But I think Charles lives with I think it's a moose, two mountain lions, and a baboon. I'm pretty sure, right, all combined in a one cat. Occasionally it just you know, it morphs as it plexus to different identities and you see a cat spring past the camera, so you never know what's on on.

1:50:00 So it's gonna get fed eventually. And Eric, my friend, you feel calmer then at the start of the episode when you, oh, man. This this just really this podcasts my mood around. Man, it doesn't matter how I show up. By the end of this thing, I'm just in a great moods. So thank you guys. Yeah, we had fun. We had fun, and uh, you know, Uncle Tim will be back with us next Sunday and next week and next week shameless plug, we'd be talking. Uh start for comics. We go back comic Corner in quite a while, and the recent arrival of a section thirty one comic companion with told stories of how Emperor Georgious ended up being a barfly will be revealed in the pages of said comics, So we'll find out all about that and more when we return to Comic Corner next week, and and I think it's gonna be a lot of toy talking going on for the next couple of weeks. This is back, and hopefully we have a strange New World air date soon. So let's get out of here, friends, And to quote the immortal words of Klingon Tamer Uncle Jim Star Trek fans are the best fans, So have a great night, everybody, and wherever you are, live long and prosper long and prosper all stations. I'm ready for departure, sir.

1:51:22 Some problem, right, I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way our missions will go, so oh no, number what, I'm sure most will be much more interesting. Let's see what's on there. Engage