June 21, 2025

Episode 643- COMIC CORNER Lower Decks issue 6-7 review

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Star Trek Lower DecksComic Corner
Episode 643 - COMIC CORNER- In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and his team of Trek experts discuss various topics including fan shout outs, Star Trek polls, and a review of the Lower Decks comic series. The dynamic between Captain Freeman and Mariner is explored, along with the humor and ethical dilemmas presented in Star Trek. The podcast emphasizes the importance of fan engagement and community within the Star Trek universe. In this episode, the hosts discuss various aspects of the Star Trek universe, focusing on character portrayals, story arcs, and the humor embedded in the series. They delve into the backstories of characters, particularly in Lower Decks, and reflect on the artistic choices made in the series. The conversation also touches on Star Trek birthdays, recent news, and upcoming projects, highlighting the excitement and nostalgia surrounding the franchise, and Spaceballs 2!!! Let's see what's out there...ENGAGE!
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Series' coming to you. Is now talking about this on

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the show now talking about.

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Well, good evening. Trek He's in treks around the globe.

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It it is Thursday, June nineteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to

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episode six hundred and forty one of Trek Talking and Beyond.

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I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast.

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Let me go around and introduced you to my awesome, awesome,

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awesome trucks Worth and we'll start out in the Las

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Vegas with Charles. How you doing tonight? Charles? Charles is

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doing good?

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Charles yeah, there we.

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Wrong his sorry mute button for the intro. I'm doing good,

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miss you guys last week, but I was having a

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blast in Disneyland and had cool Disneyland to come back

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to the warm weather.

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Gotta love it, gotta love it. And we're gonna swing

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over to Virginia. We're gonna say hello to v Welcome

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to the podcast.

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Hello, Hello from warm and humid Virginia.

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Yeah, it's it's ninety four way up here in the

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green Mountains of Vermont, which is just crazy for us.

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Right, not right at all. And now we're gonna spend

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it all the way around and I'm gonna go out to

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Portland because we have our triple play out there. We'll

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start off with our very own David how you doing, David.

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Well Milical Workers' personal log I'm now Hologram.

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The Doctor go by just a minute ago.

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Yeah, well apparently she's offline right now.

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So, and also from Portland, we have Eric, how you

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doing tonight?

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Eric?

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Doing pretty good. I just finished abseiling the warp core

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and I'm feeling all worked.

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Out, you know, cool and wrapping everything up. In Portland,

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we have Paul the toy guy with us tonight. How

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you doing, Paul, I'm.

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Doing open Man, a little little sore who was out

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in the outside doing a lot of work today. So

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age catch you have to make but doing okay?

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Ready for some Trek Talking.

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I think so and beyond and we're yeah, we're going.

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To be going beyond next week. Next week we're going

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to take a look at Space nineteen ninety nine, So

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you guys definitely don't want to miss that. I think

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our fans shout outs that's where we thank fans just

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like you around the world for being followers of Trek Talking.

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We also have our Star Trek polls tonight, Nepotism and

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Starfleet and did data shoot first done? Dun don No,

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we're not talking hon We're talking data. You'll have to

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stick around and find that out. What Star Trek actor

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do you share our birthday with? Find out on our

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Star Trek Birthday section. And we're wrapping the show up

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with what's going on in the Star Trek universe. Michelle

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Nichols Space Camp section thirty one receives a nomination and

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unfortunately we lost Harris Eulen and we're going to talk

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name from yours truly, Uncle Jim, you want to tune

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into the next episode because you're going to be featured

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on a fan shout out, So Eric, take us away

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with our fans shout outs.

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Buddy, All right, I'm gonna spend that globe over to

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Western Europe and we're going to start out this week

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with staying hello to Hank Debray, who's staying hello to

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us from Nymahu in the Nederland, the Netherlands. Thanks Hank

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for saying hello to us. I always like to talk

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about your country because it's the world leader in floating architecture,

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and as an architect, I certainly appreciate things that we

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are going to need more in the future when the

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seas overtake all of our continents. Thank you, Hank for

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saying hello to us, and live and prosper to you, sir.

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Also saying hello this week to top fan Rachel Carr,

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who's hailing from Dublin, Ireland, sending us that beautiful Irish flag,

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and Rachel, we really appreciate your support. Top fan status,

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of course, means that you interact with us a ton

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on our Facebook page and we always appreciate that sort

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of interaction. You must like us cause you're there, you're

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doing stuff. Thanks for listening to the podcast. Also, hello

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this week to Luis Fernando Lopez, who's saying hello to

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us from Canoas in Brazil. We have actually a ton

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of support from Brazil for this podcast and we appreciate that.

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Perhaps Luis, you know others who have said hello to us,

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and we say hello to everybody in that beautiful country.

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And last, but not least on my list, I'm gonna

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head back to the UK and say hello to Dave

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Burton who's saying hello to us from Essex in England. Charles,

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who would you like to say hello to?

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Oh?

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Thank you Eric. Maybe some sudden these people might know

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this person. Welcome to Lemia Julie Lysander, all Star contributor

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from Portland, Oregon. Welcome, and Lemia, Welcome to Holly Harris

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Londons Burke from Ohio. Welcome Thomas Drake, who's also a

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TRAP contributor from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. And last on my list,

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welcome to Tona de Forde Schult from southern Wisconsin. I

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got a friend I chat with from high school from Wisconsin.

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Me who's on your list?

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All right? So from Burbank, California, sending a big Star Trek,

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Hello to William Hannafan. Then Doug Bates, who is a

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rising contributor from East Texas that it's hot out there today.

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Then Hendersonville, North Carolina. I actually know where that is,

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Duyanne Gillespie, so hello to you. And then last but

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certainly not least, from Texas, USA, Amy E.

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Wald.

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So it's onto you, Paul.

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Thanks me. Well, we've got all clients of folks who

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are singing the You don't even find the right words

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the Star Trek this week. My brain is too much

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heat today, too much being outdoors. Let's go all the

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way over to the magical land of Malaysia, Okay, and

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say hello to our friend Lester Shong, who is giving

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us one of these livelong and prosper science there. There's

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a lot of crazy tectonic activity in You're part of

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the world right now, Lester. I know just down the

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road there's a big volcanic eruption. I believe it wasn't

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Mali this week, Do I have that right? Or Fiji?

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But yeah, but big, big volcanic doing. So hopefully that's

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not something that you will be encountering, but you never know,

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so stay safe, keep watching the Star Trek. It's the

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safest way to be right and on the magical, rather

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challenged universe that is Airpin, Ukraine. We have our friend

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Maria Koblenko who's saying hello to us, hoping that calmer

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days are in store for you. Maria, I know it's

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been a very talenting few years for folks there, so

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hopefully that your vision of a happier future is undimmed

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would be my wish for you. Let's go over to

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a place that I would just I would do many

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many things to be able to go to this next country.

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But we'd like to say hello to All Star contributor

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Michelle Wiley from Bardeen, Scotland in the United Kingdom. I

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have got Scotland on the brain lately, I really really do,

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so I'm very, very eager to get there Aberdeen. I'm

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sure there's a magnificent spot to live. Michelle, You've got

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your trophy there. You're an All Star, So thanks for

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checking in with us and being a fan of the show.

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And we never like to stay in the same continent

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for very long? Do we need to see pop scotching

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from one lat through to the next. So let's go

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to guy Nabo, Puerto Rico and say hello to our

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fan friend Juan le Bron, who is from guyan Nabo.

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There so always great to see that there are Star

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Trek fans and fans of science fiction and this podcast

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all over the country, all over the planet, all over

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the galaxy. We have fans everywhere. So is there any

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continent that we have yet to hear from? Eric? You

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track these things, don't you.

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Wow, technically we have not yet heard from Antarctica, but

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we're working on it.

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Really Okay, so we can do about that, But penguins,

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that seems possible.

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Right about all the other ones? We just need someone

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from a science station.

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Yeah, okay, well we'll see what I can do. I

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will I will see if I can pull some strengths. Anyhow,

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let's pass this revolving globe over to our friend uncle Jim.

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Why, thank you so much, Paul. I'm going to reach

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up on to my shelf full of shatners and I

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want to say hello and thank you to Rommy by Dottie,

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who's a top contributor from New York, New York, the

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Big Apple. Thank you for listening, Rommy, We appreciate it.

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I also want to say thank you to Michael Bardi,

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who's in upstate New York's in the Webster area. Webster area.

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I'm not familiar with where that is, but it doesn't matter.

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Thank you for being a fan. We also want to

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say hello and thank you to Janis West who's listening

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to us in Texas. That's our third Texas tonight. Wow,

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that's awesome. And last but not least, Michelle Chloe Muggleton

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who's from Lime Lake Machatis, New York, an hour outside

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of Buffalo, New York. Awesome. Thank you so much for

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All right, Well, now it's time for our star trek polls.

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You know what that means, Eric, That's right, we get

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to Poland's song.

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You know me like no Wind? What you thought this chow?

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Then we try to share your opinions with all of

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our minions out there because they listen World Wine.

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So tell us just what you think.

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Get together, we will all drink canar and romulin ale.

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God, I just love that song.

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Got a heck of a voice does.

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But I heard you you should never mix romulin ale

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and canar because you'll have a heck of a hangover

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the next morning.

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Yes, the implication was that you will have romulin ale

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and I will have canar.

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But okay, probably, or you can drink canar with damar.

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There we go.

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Wine is what I'm leaning towards.

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You know that wine was just way harder to rhyme with,

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but I tried.

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That's true, that is true, But we got it in

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the theme song though we did that. We get all right, guys.

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On our Facebook page, you see we have a lot

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of top contributors and rising fans and whatnot. And you

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get those badges by earning points, and you earn points

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by posting on our Facebook page. And one of the

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ways that you can earn those points is taking place

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in our polls. Every week, I try to put up

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at least two poles, and then we collect those answers

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and we go over them on the podcast to see

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how you guys are Minions responded, So, David, you want

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to roll the tape of our first hole hitting it?

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Well, would you feel back humidity of the pressure just dropped?

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I think the air is being modified.

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Not on my watch.

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This is your watch right now.

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And it's literally happening now.

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Can you not?

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Even if we can get down to the environmental controls,

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there might be a way to reverse this.

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Are you sure that's the best rock for this?

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Yes?

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No, yes, it's fine.

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It's a rock.

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Look, I'm just saying I think you should use the

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shale over there.

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Mom, It is the same thing.

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Just let me alone.

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Nothing, It's just maybe you'd want one with more of

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a points.

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Oh my god, why do you have the second guest?

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Every chance? I need to help you. I would if

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you would just let me do.

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There.

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See the rock was fine?

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Yeah, Well, we could have gotten here faster.

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You're going a little fast. Don't you think you thought

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you want it fast?

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Not that fast. You're trying to get us killed here.

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Make sure you're gripping with both hands, you know.

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Okay, okay, you know what?

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Maybe I should just leap?

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Oh my god, will you just stop?

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I am good at this.

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Just trust me. I'm just looking out for you.

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Yeah, that's the whole problem.

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Mom.

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You treat me like a child.

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Well, if you would stop acting like a.

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Child and more like a mature crew member, then I

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would treat you accordingly.

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Oh you think I'm immature. You're the one trying to

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trick me into quitting.

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How is that mature? Yeah, that's what I thought, Carol.

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You did not just call me Carols, Carol. Yes, the

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systems were still Onlinefected areas are saturated with carbon pollmer dust.

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We need parisine gas flood the ship, then trigger a

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reversion with radiation from the main deflector unless you think

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we should use a point to your rock.

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No, that's exactly what I was going to suggest. I'm

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just impressed you read my mission brief, didn't you.

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No?

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No, well, I mean maybe a little, but just ironically

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just so I could make fun of it.

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Okay, computer hit it, hitting it, all right?

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So that was our clip, and Eric, what was our

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whole question?

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All right? On Star Trek Lower Decks, which of course

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was the source of that clip. Beckett Mariners serves aboard

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the USS Cerritos and her mother, Captain Freeman, is the captain.

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Do you think it's a good idea to have her

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serve under her mother's command? And well, first of all,

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it's hilarious, but yeah, sixty four percent of our responders said, yeah,

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it's a good idea. Why would I want to serve

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under mom? And thirty six percent of our responders said, no,

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servant under mom is a bad idea. I would say

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that this paradigm is probably one of the driving forces

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of Lower Decks, right, the whole interaction between those two.

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So once again, it's kind of like it's convenient for

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the writing that they're there. Wasn't there some I feel

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like there was an episode of Lower Decks where they

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talk about this too, where they talk about how those

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two ended up on the same ship. I don't remember,

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maybe one of you guys remembers, but yeah, I think

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it's a great idea. Why not. Why not serve under

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mom makes it more hilarious.

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Well, V, you're dressed for the occasion. What do you

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think would you serve on your mom on a starship?

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Yeah?

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Well, I know in the very beginning that was the

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whole thing to keep bit secret that you know they

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were mother and daughter. In fact, Beckett is what kind

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of thing? What was there?

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It was?

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That was her middle name. I want to say our

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Beckett Mariner. No, it's Beckett Mariner Freeman, I think, so

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she doesn't she doesn't take her user last name. And

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it was it was Boemler that finds out by accident

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because Captain Freeman wants him to because he's such a

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you know, goober and wants to wants to get points

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with the captain, so she asked him to watch after

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her daughter. So although in real life, of course, which

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you know, the military, uh definitely frowns upon that. So

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but I do like the dynamic because I think it's

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relatable to a lot of us moms with adult kids.

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And you know, we've all said, you know, stop acting

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like a child. So that's that's my take.

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That's your take. How about you, David, what do you

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think would you serve under Mom on a starship if

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you could.

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Well, I believe all everybody will should be able to

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serve under some form of family member. You know, in

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my opinion, it kind of makes the workload more easier

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and it would be more funner. Okay, you grew up

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with that person in your whole life kind of thing,

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so they're kind of like your friend forever. But yeah,

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I actually kind of agree with the minion don is one.

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I think it was a good idea to have her

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on the ship.

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So yeah, all right, how about you, Charles, Well, I

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think there's another story with here, because I think this

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was one of her last chances to stay and.

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Starfleet was to be put put on those sritos, because

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she's talked about the time she spent on DS nine.

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She's gotten several rank ups and then has gone back

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down sort of promotions. Demotions I think I gathered from

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the storylines happened more than once, and I think it

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was possibly Dad and put her there and the effect

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of hoping this is her last chance of staying in

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Starfleet before getting let go. So I think part of

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the reason that she's with Mom is to sit there

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and get that chance of keeping her as an officer,

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And this time she did go to Lieutenant JG. And

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she's keeping she kept it. So I think that's really

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the part of the issue to me, is the fact

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that she just has struggled being more than just a

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lower decker, and I think there was a chance of

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bumping up to getting her out of lower decks. So

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I agree with the minions on this one. I think

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it was a good idea to put her there, just

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to keep her from getting kicked out.

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What about you, Paul, what do you think?

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Oh you're muted, buddy, Sorry the question those do you

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think it's a good idea having her serve under her

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mother's command? Well, again, it's a television show, right, and

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so you want to have this situation be whatever is

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the most funniest structurally, right. So of course, in reality,

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no one's going to want to do that. Oh maybe, David,

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apparently I would. I would, you know, pay giant sums

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of money. I don't have to avoid having served with

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my mother because there's just no way.

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No.

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Way, every Sorry, but it would have been just it got.

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Us that that whole dynamic got us the sarcastic vulcan salute.

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You know, but it's just like you do whatever's funniest, right,

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you set things up. If it's a thriller, you do

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whatever is the most you know, exciting, right. So, yes,

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it's a good idea because it's the funniest idea. But

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it's just like, hopefully, when I look at this like

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it's reality, right, it's it's a fictional comedy, so it's

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a it's a weird. It's a weird. I don't know.

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Sometimes they don't understand the perspective, but that's just me.

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But yeah, it's a good idea because it's funny. Okay,

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so as we just saw in that rather lugubrious clip.

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But yeah, so I'm good with it. The minions are right.

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Well, I would never serve with my parents on a ship,

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but it works on lower decks, so that's a step

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in the right direction. All right, David, you ready hit us?

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Brother, I'll simply kill someone else.

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Yeah, perhaps.

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It doesn't matter.

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Their blood will be on your hands too. Just you're

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only alternative data.

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Just a fire.

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Murder me, that's all you have to do.

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Go ahead, fire.

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If only you could feel rage over various death, if

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only you could feel and neat for revenge.

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Then maybe you could fire.

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But you're just an android if you can't feel anything,

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can you.

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It's just another interesting intellectual puzzle for you, another of life's.

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Curiosities. I cannot permit this to continue. Program, will let

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me fire? You can't fire me?

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No, I'm reading a weapon in transit with Commander Data.

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It seems to have discharged, Sir, discharged on deactivating it.

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Welcome back with your data.

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You're all right?

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Yes, Commander, Please arrange to have Keith as Faja taken

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into custody on charges of murder kidnapping.

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Fact, the rangements have already been made.

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A baron tea disruptor. It belongs to Faja. Mister O'Brien

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says the weapon was in a state of discharge. Perhaps

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something occurred during transport.

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Commander, all right, there's the clip. What's the question?

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Eric?

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In the Next Generation episode The Most Toys, Data is

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kidnapped by Kivis Vajo, a collector of rare antiques, and

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put into his collection. Data has to stop him and

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points a disruptor at his captor, but its beamed back

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to the Enterprise as we just saw. Chief of Brian

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detects the weapon. Ha hing being discharged and deactivates it

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as a precaution. When asked about the discharged data suggests

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something may have occurred during transport. Do you think Data

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fired it? Ninety percent of our responders said yes, Data

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fired it. Ten percent said no. I say, Chief O'Brien

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is always right, so of course he fired it. I

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think the more interesting question is why did he fire

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it given that he does not have any emotion chip

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at this time? Did he calculate that it was the

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most logical decision to get rid of this guy? I

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think that's a very interesting question. We probably do a

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show about that. But yeah, in this case, he absolutely

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fired it, no question.

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What about what do you think, Paul? Did he fire

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it or did it accidentally discharge and transport?

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Oh? Come on, I mean, I don't understand this question.

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I mean it's it's like a wrong right where don't

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questions come from? I mean, is this makes no sense

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at all? Chief o brian says, the weapon has been discharged, right,

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and uh, and so of course he did. I mean,

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do you think Data fired it?

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Well? Do you think itself? Did a magic teenie show

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up and fire it? You know, of course he did.

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It's I mean O'Brien said he did, he detected it.

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Day is just bullshitting with that excuse at the end.

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Oh maybe an accidentally discharge. Not please, it's just like

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not so yeah, this is I just find it ridiculous

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because it's not an ethical thing that it just it's

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it's nonsensical. I just I just don't get it. So

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of course he did. Of course he did do better.

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What do you think do you think the Oh, absolutely

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he did. And can I say, for a moment, can

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we appreciate the absolute skill with which Brent Spiner could

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make very subtle changes in his face. He could say

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so much without saying a word. And I mean he

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does say he cannot let this continue anymore because that

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little creepy guy has just had killed the woman what

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was her name, Veria killed her basically in cold blood

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because she was trying to help data. And so I

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think it's his ethical subroutine or whatever you want to

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call it, that allowed him to try to end this

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guy forever. And then when he comes through, you know,

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back to the enterprise, Oh, I'm sorry, must have malfunctioned.

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You know that, because it's always it's always something happens

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in transport, you know, that's what did it. But he yeah,

479
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.559
he absolutely did, and that guy absolutely deserved it.

480
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.359
Yeah, So I mean, what are the like I said,

481
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.039
I think we could do a whole show about that, Like,

482
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:20.200
what are the ethics of data making the decision to

483
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.200
kill this person? Like what is it? Is it the

484
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.720
idea that he's going to prevent future bad things that

485
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.920
this guy does? And so but then also killing is

486
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:32.359
always wrong?

487
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.000
Right yeah or not?

488
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:34.599
I don't know.

489
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:43.440
I've like lately been on the fence about that. Wow.

490
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.119
I can think of a couple of exceptions every.

491
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.000
Of saying things about saying things.

492
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:54.599
You know, William Shatner, we're here as Kirk, he would

493
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:58.480
have talked data into self destructing himself because he lied,

494
00:28:59.480 --> 00:28:59.680
you know.

495
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.319
Yeah, I mean there there could be a logical conundrum

496
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.400
there that would cause you know, a purely like nomad

497
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:11.039
ish type thing to short circuit itself. But I mean

498
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.000
we see that the data positronic goes beyond nomad, right,

499
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.200
so like he's he's like way more complex. But yeah, yeah, absolutely,

500
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.240
Jim possibly think.

501
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.079
What do you think, David, was it a malfunction or

502
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:25.759
was Well, let.

503
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.559
Me explain how transport it works not.

504
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.200
Kidding a technical manual.

505
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:31.119
There we go.

506
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:36.880
So, yeah, I think there are grimlins in a buying computer,

507
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.759
but I believe that. Yeah, he actually did fire, and

508
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.680
then when he saw a command on the other side

509
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.440
of that transport being, he's like, uh so he tried to,

510
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.960
you know, talk himself out of it. But had data

511
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.599
ever been known to lie?

512
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.039
Well he can lie, Yeah, he can, he can absolutely lie.

513
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:06.240
Yeah, Okay, well yeah, okay, he lied, he fired it.

514
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.240
Well you get the kaboos. Charles.

515
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.160
Well, one thing we didn't mention on it. It wasn't

516
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.599
an ordinary disruptor, I do remember where it was from.

517
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:23.920
But it was also an illegal disruptor. So he was murdered.

518
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.480
He murdered that one woman with a weapon that he

519
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:32.720
shouldn't have possessed. So I think this is a season

520
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:37.039
three so it's little early before the motion hip, but

521
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.400
I think it's an early sign of data showing a

522
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.920
little bit of ethics and emotion that what this, what

523
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:50.640
this person was doing, was wrong, and that we do

524
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:55.440
not We do know later on that all of his stuff,

525
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:02.240
all of the collector's stuff, was sold off, including that

526
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.000
fifty foot vulcan.

527
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:08.119
Yeah, we're not sure.

528
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:14.039
Exactly. It's the and the spending time in prison or

529
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.440
something else happened to him, so I'd be curious.

530
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:17.920
We never know.

531
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:22.920
That's an interesting thought.

532
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:28.319
Actually, yeah, I saw from lower decks what happened that he.

533
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.559
Lowers mentioned that I was an alien gun, right, So

534
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.680
what if the power signature on that gun would always

535
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:39.960
set to fire and so the transporter to kick it.

536
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:41.920
As active.

537
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.599
Disruptors only got one setting, it doesn't it's not a

538
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.599
phase or multi setting.

539
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.799
Interesting theory, That's all I got said.

540
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.039
Actually, I'm thinking of Star Trek first on Tech with

541
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.799
Lilly and Picard when he takes the UH phaser away

542
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:06.440
from her and said, if you had fired this, you

543
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.319
would have killed me because it was on maximum, you know,

544
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.160
the maximum said it's my first ray gun. That would

545
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:13.559
have been funny if Data had.

546
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:23.640
Said it's my first ray gun. M hm yep. Although

547
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.240
I do believe that Klingon disruptors do have stun because

548
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.519
Chekhov says so in Star Trek four. He says, I

549
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.079
have to stun you, and he pushes the button and

550
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.480
it is a squeak week week because of the radiation

551
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:41.720
on the enterprise, So they must have a stunt. Setting

552
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:43.519
or check off was just crazy.

553
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.599
I don't know, what does your research that for us?

554
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:51.680
I do some research, David, you be demand all right, guys.

555
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.640
So that wraps up our poll questions and now we're

556
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.160
going to get right into the meat and potatoes up

557
00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:00.440
tonight's podcast and that Star Trek Lower Decks issued number

558
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.720
six and seven. Take it away, Paul.

559
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.119
Okay, So what we do on these particular episodes, friends,

560
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.799
is we do a comic corner just to frame things

561
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.559
a little bit, So we basically review things that we've

562
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.720
been reading from IDW Starter comic series, and we've been

563
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.519
over the last month or so, maybe a little bit

564
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.039
before that, we've been doing the Lower Deck series from

565
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:28.119
IDW and got to give it up for issue number

566
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.400
six that we're going to start off with talking with

567
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.640
here tonight. Terrific cover, very very fun. I thought they

568
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.519
did a great job on that. Written by Ryan North,

569
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.799
art by Jack Lawrence. So there's your credits here, and

570
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.759
we're continuing on right from where we left off at

571
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:47.400
the previous issue number five and the Cerritos Lower Deckers.

572
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.279
They've jumped through the chromouth B portal. Send us to

573
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.880
where we can have the most effect on history, they asked,

574
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:56.960
and they end up sitting there on the deck of

575
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.119
the Titanic, which hilariously none of them have ever heard of,

576
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:03.359
which is kind of a fun thing there. So and

577
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:08.639
this oddly garbed figure with some kind of identity cloaking

578
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:14.199
fabric bumps into them, and then very quickly they encounter

579
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:20.079
period costumed versions of all of the senior officers right,

580
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.920
which we've got going on there, very reminiscent for me

581
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.760
all our times errow, where it's got that kind of

582
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:32.280
pseudo Victorian kind of vibe to it. So they all

583
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.599
get together and they realize they're gonna have to sort of,

584
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.079
you know, combine forces, and somebody is traveling through time,

585
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.079
messing with key events and then going on to the

586
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.360
next one. So they decide to let the lower deckers

587
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.480
join the bridge officers on their mission identify who this

588
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.840
person is, stop them, and save the timeline basically, and

589
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.239
it's explained we're following her taki on trail, which is

590
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:58.199
probably one of the worst pickup lines ever, And they

591
00:34:58.239 --> 00:34:58.800
decide to.

592
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:01.679
Are you admitting.

593
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.880
But yeah, I couldn't help notice your take on frail

594
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:10.840
is you know, quite hot today. So let's go have

595
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.199
some romy lane a little bit more so, Yeah, I

596
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.039
heard on frail that it's just screaming to be a

597
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:24.039
commented on. Anyhow, this TAKEI on trail from this broad

598
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.639
is leading them to the prehistoric area, and so that's

599
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.000
where they're going to go, right, So they decide to

600
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:33.679
not do any of the actions that cause anomalies that

601
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:37.119
so often happen in various other time travel scenarios, like

602
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:41.920
accidentally forgetting your fall's office, that kind of thing that

603
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:46.199
cause anomalies. So they they go to the like I

604
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:48.840
think it's the Cretaceous period if I remember correctly, and

605
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.079
they come upon this time traveler and decide that they've

606
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.559
got a laser cannon with them, right, and they're like, oh,

607
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.760
what's going on? So they decide the best thing to

608
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.480
do is to beam this person and their weapon up

609
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.920
into the car Go Bay as a way of kind

610
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.119
of containing them. And they find out that this person

611
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:10.280
is a mysterious time problem causing stranger is none other than.

612
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:20.159
Getting alert spoiler alert, okay, And so it's like one

613
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.639
of those you know, oh my god, you are my

614
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:23.960
father kind of moments.

615
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.559
And so this Beckett Mariner reveals that Kenny Rutherford to Lynn,

616
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.840
and Boemler all died on some away mission on this

617
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.880
specific date, and this time traveling Beckett Mariner has been

618
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.280
trying to go back in time and save them repeatedly,

619
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.800
but no matter what, they keep dying. So she had

620
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.519
basically an existential crisis and what is defined in the

621
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.320
comic as temporal psychosis from you know, getting your brain

622
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.119
scrambled from traveling through time too many times. And she

623
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.760
decides that if the universe doesn't care what she wants,

624
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.719
then same to your universe. And so she's been going

625
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:03.440
hither and yoning things up just because it's fun, right,

626
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:06.400
So that's kind of her whole. She was going to

627
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.599
use this phaser canon of hers to vaporize the asteroid

628
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:13.719
that hit prehistoric Earth and destroyed the dinosaurs, which would

629
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.599
in theory, prevent humans from ever evolving or existing. So

630
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:20.719
that's pretty cool plan. I got to say there, Becket Mariner.

631
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.400
I mean that's really like like like let's wipe out

632
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.559
all of mankind from what they even got a chance

633
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.519
to like, you know, become mankind. So I was like, wow,

634
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.559
wait to pull the plug, my friend. So pretty cool.

635
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.440
But to Lynn posits that because this Beckett Mariner has

636
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.639
intersected with her own past. It must therefore be changed

637
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:46.760
and altered both past events and herself. So in theory,

638
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:49.639
she just by revealing herself she may have solved her problem.

639
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.760
Time traveling Mariner disappears, fading out, and that is the

640
00:37:53.880 --> 00:38:00.000
end of issue number six, which concludes on that exciting

641
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.159
note there, do we want to talk about this or

642
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:04.599
were going to.

643
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.400
Just go on and discuss now, because it's a fundamentally

644
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:08.840
different story from the next one.

645
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.199
It is. It is okay, cool, excellent, Eric, Why don't

646
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:14.000
you begetting sir?

647
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:19.880
Okay? Yes, So the first six issues of the Lower

648
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.840
Deck comic, of course written by Ryan North. As Paul

649
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.519
just reminded us, I always like to talk about how

650
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.679
much I like Ryan North. He is a great writer.

651
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:34.880
I have constantly enjoyed his little footnotes. They give you

652
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.519
extra flavor. It's like two comics in one. Unfortunately, this

653
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.119
is the last issue that Ryan North wrote, and number

654
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.639
seven has a completely different writer. I think this is

655
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:48.840
a great conclusion to this arc. I really enjoyed this comic.

656
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.639
There are a whole bunch of good little equippeds here

657
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:56.760
and there. You know it, It ends a little bit

658
00:38:56.760 --> 00:39:01.760
abruptly with the future Mariner just removing her time inhibitor

659
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.519
and sort of disappearing instantly. But does it need to

660
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:07.519
be does it?

661
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.119
You lost your audio there, buddy? You repeat what you

662
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.400
just said? Just yes?

663
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:13.719
Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Now?

664
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:14.840
Yeah?

665
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.360
Extolling the virtues of Ryan North, I was saying that

666
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:25.039
I generally really like this comic. I was also saying that, uh,

667
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.039
you know, perhaps it ends just a little bit abruptly

668
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.000
in that she just sort of removes her time inhibiting

669
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.880
thing and she just kind of disappears. But I think

670
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.159
that's okay. I don't think the story needed any more

671
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.599
complex resolution than that, because let's be clear, Lower Decks

672
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.800
is not about like the high concepts necessarily, it's about

673
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.639
the laughs, right, and I think this comic has plenty

674
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:51.480
of laughs in it. All the footnotes are hilarious. I

675
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.559
love things like all ships ever do our float and sync?

676
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:00.639
You know? There's the one comment about how the one

677
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.679
page of the comic is all just a summary of

678
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:04.280
the last one, and it's like, if you're the type

679
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.000
of person who likes quick summaries, congratulations, we just gave

680
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:10.480
you one. I think we learn in this comic that

681
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.119
to Anna is an ancestor of Spock, which is a

682
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:19.280
great recall back to episodes of of dext Generation where

683
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:25.639
where Data talks about being related to Sherlock Holmes. The

684
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:28.800
scenes here with Shacks being pissed and bounding on the

685
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:35.760
table are absolutely hilarious and my perhaps my favorite Mariner

686
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.159
line because I think the lower decks is added. But

687
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.440
these comics in particular are at their best when they

688
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:42.440
break that fourth wall, and I'm a huge fan of

689
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.679
anything that breaks the fourth wall. I just love bringing

690
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:48.320
the audience directly into the story, making them part of

691
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:51.800
the story. And she has that one line where she

692
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.159
says the narrative is more important than whatever the hell

693
00:40:54.239 --> 00:41:00.280
that is. Like you you understand, girl, You understand. So

694
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:04.639
I loved this issue. I thought the first six issues here,

695
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.559
written by Ryan North, were generally a really fun story

696
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:12.679
that had an overall arc to it. So yeah, I

697
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.719
don't know where i'd put this one number wise, but

698
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.320
if I was to give the whole first six issue

699
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:21.679
arc of this comic a number, I'd give it a nine.

700
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.800
It was fantastic. It felt just like the show I

701
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:28.360
read the comics in the voices of the show characters

702
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.000
and I generally have no complaints.

703
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:38.840
So, yeah, who's next, Why don't we have v jump

704
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:40.400
in here? She's got the uniform on.

705
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.480
Yeah, that's right, got the uniform. Yeah, I would agree.

706
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.960
This was a really good episode. And when you think

707
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.280
about it, Mariner was just trying to make things right

708
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:54.920
because she lost her friends, which kind of reminds me

709
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.559
a little bit of what was the Voyager. Wasn't that

710
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:02.320
the episode Year of Hell where that man was trying

711
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.360
to he was yeah, the cred of Yeah, and he

712
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.400
was just he was trying to bring back his wife

713
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.159
and every time it changed things, but not enough and

714
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:17.039
he uh just could never get back to that right

715
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.159
time frame. And then of course when I saw the

716
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.400
that one frame with where they referenced City on the

717
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.480
Edge of Forever, it's like, oh, with Kerk kissing Edith Keeler,

718
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:34.280
that just that was like, oh no, and thinking about

719
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:38.000
because that was the whole thing with what was the

720
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.039
line where McCoy says, you know, do you know what

721
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.519
you've done? When he lets because he has to let Edith,

722
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.559
you know, get killed, because that's just the way it

723
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.400
had to be. And Spock says he knows, doctor, he

724
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:56.599
knows so yep, we do crazy things for love.

725
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.480
I suppose change entire time lines.

726
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:01.920
Yeah, sure, why not?

727
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:05.239
So what about you, David, you recommend this one to

728
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.960
our our minions?

729
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:14.320
Yes, yeah, I really enjoyed this one, especially the fact

730
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:19.760
that they were on the Titanic, and uh I liked

731
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.559
how especially like this image right here, As you guys

732
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:24.719
can see, he has a trie quarter inside a book,

733
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.679
and that book was called Things that you find Interesting

734
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.079
to read. Just little things like that that you can

735
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.360
pick up on this comic that it was just really funny. Also,

736
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.719
when Mayna reveals herself, you can see in the background

737
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:42.920
that the doctor was handing a gold Latin bo over

738
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.599
two facts because I guess they made a bet to

739
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:53.000
find out who it was. And just a little thing

740
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:56.159
that you can pick up on longest a particular comic

741
00:43:56.159 --> 00:44:01.519
book that was really quite funny. But yeah, I really

742
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:05.280
enjoyed this. I thought it was great. I really liked

743
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:11.039
the line that Mariana named the t Rex, so I

744
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:13.880
thought that was pretty cool. And uh yeah, for a

745
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.239
longer time, I kept thinking it might have been Billip.

746
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:17.840
What if the doctor was right?

747
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:18.119
You know?

748
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.800
So I guess I owe my gold plus latinum so somebody,

749
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.679
but uh yeah, I over all I think this comic

750
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:31.559
book gets a nine for me. Yeah, I really enjoy it,

751
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:32.800
and I think other people will too.

752
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:39.239
Excellent. What about you, Charles.

753
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.760
A couple of the characters we have the board meeting.

754
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.400
I love how you you feel like you're there with

755
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:52.559
the characters Dot doctor Tianas. We talked about this before.

756
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:56.639
She starts swearing in the meeting and it's like, that's oh,

757
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.039
I want to be like my ancestors, Like yeah, but

758
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:04.119
that's Zad the type of character she is. When Shacks

759
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.039
had a temper tantrump, like, but that Shacks as we

760
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.760
see just in the screen that Shacks, that's how he is.

761
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.800
He kind of apologized the first time. The second time's like, no,

762
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.239
I'm not apologizing. We should have been doing some of

763
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:20.400
this stuff already.

764
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:24.119
Oh.

765
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:31.599
Not only did we have flashbacks of the West the

766
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:40.000
he's the action with McCoy leaving his tri chorder and

767
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:46.440
then they can't Kirk falling in love. But I love

768
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:52.000
the spinning circling around the sun and it's like, yeah,

769
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.000
that wasn't the TST version. That was Star Trek four

770
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:03.760
and how they go through that range interpretations where they

771
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:08.760
sit there and say, okay, we're gonna go into hallucinations

772
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:11.480
and say, yeah, but that was what they didn't Star

773
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:15.639
Trek four and to me that which is such a

774
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.880
such a fabulous tie into Star Trek four.

775
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:27.000
And just.

776
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.360
Okay, let's try something different instead of sitting there doing

777
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.320
the same thing over and over. Let's try something different.

778
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:40.079
Let's try for another way of capturing this person using

779
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.639
a little bit of phaser fire, and we detect the

780
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:46.960
phaser fire. We're just gonna beam the whole area up.

781
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.079
And I think that was a.

782
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.760
Good idea and they were able to capture and find

783
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:58.559
out who this person was. And then we end up

784
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:03.639
unique back at doing her cat doing her personal law,

785
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.239
which she doesn't always tend to do. But it's like

786
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.599
it was nice to see her put together a log

787
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:15.000
and I think for this storyline here, for these two

788
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.719
this two story arc, they did a good job with

789
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.599
this story arc. I really was enjoying what they did

790
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:28.960
with this part, and really I think I recommend this issue,

791
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.599
especially this pair five and six. Five and six was

792
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.079
a great story, and I think seven is gonna go

793
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.079
into a great story as well.

794
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:43.360
Well. I'll take up the caboose here. I gotta say

795
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.280
I enjoyed this story as well. I would give this

796
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:49.599
one a nine. You guys have pretty much touched on everything.

797
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.639
But I do want to say the floating head scene

798
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.760
from Star Trek four, I thought it was hilarious because

799
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.159
the Star Trek four, it was just like a quick

800
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.679
heads flying through the crowds put in the comic book. Here,

801
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.119
they're all commenting on each other. It's like, oh, you look,

802
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:05.880
you look impressive or whatever they you know, to Len's

803
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:11.239
making comments as as their heads are floating through the clouds,

804
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:13.480
you know, like Star Trek four. I thought that was

805
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.920
that was great. I enjoyed that. So yeah, you guys

806
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.960
pretty much touched on everything, and I recommend this issue

807
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.719
and I'm going to give it a nine. So Paul,

808
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.239
you want to take it away and start us off

809
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:28.599
with our next adventure.

810
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:30.559
Sure, I just throw my own two cents in here,

811
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.840
just for fun too. I thought these were generally pretty good.

812
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:35.960
Some of the issues a little stronger than others, I

813
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:38.960
think for the most part. But I think that if

814
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.239
you like lower decks, you're probably gonna like this comic

815
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:45.119
series quite at that. I do think that it ended

816
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.400
on a really strong note with this last series. I

817
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.320
just thought that that whole idea of you know, going

818
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:55.800
in preventing the the evolution of man from the prehistoric era,

819
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:57.679
which is actually kind of a bit of a nod

820
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.079
to the finale Next Gen all good things because if

821
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.599
you remember, at one point, Picard finds himself in like

822
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.239
a prehistoric era right where there's an anomaly in the

823
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:11.440
distant past that prevents the emergence of life on Earth

824
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.320
from ever happening. So I thought that was kind of

825
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.960
a cool guy in there. So overall, I think I

826
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:18.920
would give the comic series like an eight for this

827
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:25.119
run of issues one through six, so and then we'll

828
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.960
start a new series now with issue seven. So I

829
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:30.960
think it was good stuff. And like I said, if

830
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:34.800
you like, if you like the Lower Deck series, you're

831
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:36.639
probably be really going to enjoy this. So let's talk

832
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.920
about issue seven, where we shift gears into a new

833
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.440
story arc here and as you can see telegraphed on

834
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:48.719
the cover again, this is written by Tim Sheridan now

835
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.400
taking over the writing duties for this issue, and art

836
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.000
by Robbie Cook. We're starting what looks like it's going

837
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:57.800
to be the beginning of a mom daughter, Captain Freeman

838
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:03.880
Mariner story share flashback arc if this first issue is

839
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:09.360
any indication, right. So also, as Eric intimated, this is

840
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:11.920
the first issue without those little bottom of the pages

841
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:16.320
sides or footnotes, right, and the reason that being also

842
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.440
perhaps we'll see those again, but in this issue we're

843
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.480
not seeing them because the bulk of those are sides

844
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.519
and footnotes. Those are Mariner's sides, those are Mariner's perspectives

845
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.719
pretty consistently, and this issue is largely from Carol Freeman's

846
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:33.920
point of view, So you wouldn't have those asides here

847
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.199
because it's got a different focus, a different character that

848
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:41.039
we're mainly hanging out with. So that's I think largely

849
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.679
why we do it. My guess is if there is

850
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:48.039
a we switch over again in a future issue to

851
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.760
Carol Freeman talking about Mariner, my guess is those footnotes

852
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.239
will return. But we'll see if I'm right. Any we

853
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:57.480
started off there where we're seeing that the lower deckers

854
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.800
have this tradition of field day right and doing crazy shit,

855
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:04.440
where Marener and Boemler are starting off by doing what

856
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.360
to me, it looks like Jeffrey's tube surfing, and I've

857
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.719
interpreting that correctly. It's that's what I got. And there's

858
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.519
other zany activities that sound even riskier, like airlock roulette

859
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.360
going on there and then and things finally get out

860
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:23.079
of hand when Marener and Boiler repelling down the warp core,

861
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.039
which is just ridiculous, right, But so all these antics

862
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:32.840
get Maren in trouble with Captain Freeman, and he's like protesting,

863
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.880
you didn't understand what it's like being a lower decker. Oh,

864
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:40.400
don't die, right, because then Carol flashes us back to

865
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:45.119
fifteen years ago when and soon Carol Freeman was serving

866
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:50.239
aboard the USS Illinois, right, and we find out that

867
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:52.840
she was a lower decker herself. Who the thunk it?

868
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:53.360
Right?

869
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:57.079
And the ship is getting visited by Oh I can

870
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:02.039
hear Eric's heartbeat sing from over here, right, I really

871
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:05.599
truly can, because they're being visited by doctor Pulaski. Oh

872
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:09.519
my god, Eric, you're gonna have to go first when

873
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:11.920
we start talking about this, because you're the king of

874
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:16.199
all doctor Pulaski fans. So Freeman and her lower deckers

875
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:20.159
are assigned to assist doctor Pulaski with these experiments that

876
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:23.840
she's conducting, right, and so this of course makes them

877
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:25.679
roll their eyes and they want nothing to do with it.

878
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.280
So Carol Freeman, very much like something her daughter would do,

879
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.559
attempts to sneak out late at night and go to

880
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:33.800
the holodeck because she wants to do this crazy skiing

881
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.800
program that she's been involved in, right, but she gets

882
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.559
intercepted by Pulaski. She started to do a site to

883
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.599
site transport, right, but somehow she gets snapped out of

884
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:46.719
the site to site transport and does not make it

885
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.440
to the Holodck. Instead, doctor Pulaski pulls her into sick

886
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:57.639
Bay and hilariously and sin Freeman keeps mispronouncing her name

887
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.519
instead of doctor Pilaski. At one point she's doctor Houseki,

888
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:04.480
which I thought was great, doctor Kapowski, And there's a

889
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.360
very weird interaction there between the two of them. And

890
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.400
then the next day, all of a sudden, the ship

891
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.960
was confronting a Romulan warbird, and Freeman is a had

892
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.719
been doing this whole thing to try to avoid getting

893
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.559
intercepted by Pulaski again, and in the course of doing that,

894
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.159
she rewired the site to site transport us through the

895
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.840
auxiliary phaser. Oh no, which now is a big deal

896
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.880
because there's a war bird showing up right, and suddenly

897
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:36.000
that extraneous system of the auxiliary phaser array is very important,

898
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:39.719
and because of that, the senior bridge officers are beamed

899
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:43.519
off the bridge. Who knows where, we don't know. And

900
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.239
Freeman is about to take command because she would be

901
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.800
next in line to do that, except she is thwarted

902
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:55.280
from taking command because she is suddenly usurped dramatically in

903
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.719
full panel fashion by that's right, friends, it is true

904
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:07.079
acting Captain Paul Laski to be continued. So that is

905
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.400
my summary of issue seven. I thought this was a

906
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.800
great start to a new story arc. It's funny because

907
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.400
they're so similar. I kept getting when I'm reading Carol

908
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:22.559
Freeman's antics right on the USS Illinois. I can't had

909
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:26.199
to remind myself this isn't bugging man, this is Carol Freeman,

910
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.079
because she's acting just like her, and some of her

911
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:30.639
dialogue is even similar, right, So it's just it takes

912
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:33.039
a little getting used to because it is so similar,

913
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.199
and you have to kind of fuck yourself and going up. No,

914
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.559
this is a flashback Carol Freeman doing her thing right there,

915
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.320
very very similar but you do have to remind yourself

916
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.639
of that. But I thought this was generally a pretty

917
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:48.719
funny thing. I like the humor of bringing in Pulaski,

918
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:50.960
who's kind of oft in the butt of jokes for stuff,

919
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.639
but having her be front center and even taking command.

920
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:55.920
We'll see what that looks like. So I think a

921
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.360
great start, a fun issue. I think we're off to

922
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:01.599
the races. So I would give this issue a good

923
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.119
solid eight. But you know, we don't really care what

924
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:06.880
I think. We really want to hear what Eric thinks,

925
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.840
because this is a doctor Pulaski issue. So my friend,

926
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:12.760
I know that you're you're you're chopping at the bit.

927
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:13.360
Let's hear it.

928
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:14.639
Well.

929
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.519
Well, I was very excited to see Pulaski in this issue,

930
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:20.920
no question. She is one of the most underrated doctors

931
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:24.960
ever in Star Trek, and she's often poo pooed, and

932
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.039
I don't think she deserves a poop poo one bit.

933
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:29.960
I think this comic does a little bit of kind.

934
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:33.159
Of like playing with that whole concept because they sometimes

935
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:37.119
poopoo heard just a little bit. But first and foremost,

936
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:41.239
I'll say that I thought it was hilarious when there's

937
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:43.719
a bunch of a crew are in you know, the

938
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.159
cargo bay, and they're talking about all of the things

939
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.920
that they've heard about why Pulaski got kicked off the Enterprise,

940
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:56.239
and it was just like, well, I heard that, you know,

941
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:59.199
this happened, and I heard the android got her fired,

942
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:04.519
and I heard that you had you know, gatesmac fad

943
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.239
and tied up in a corner and all this kind

944
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:11.239
of stuff. So so all of that stuff was was

945
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:16.559
pretty darn funny. The issue kind of starts out a

946
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:18.840
little bit rough, like the first couple of pages before

947
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:21.599
they bring in Pulaski. I think I was having a

948
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.840
moment where I was just instantly missing Ryan North's writing.

949
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:26.960
It felt like it took a second for it to

950
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:31.199
kind of like get going. And maybe maybe that's true

951
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:32.840
just because it was the beginning of a new arc.

952
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:37.159
I don't know. I'm also just like a ridiculous Ryan

953
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.519
North fan, so I probably was just like, yeah, he's

954
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:41.960
not on the show anywhere on the issue anymore. I'm

955
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:44.679
upset about it. But then once they brought Pulaski and

956
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:47.719
I started liking it a little bit more. I like

957
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:49.800
it when they use big words that I don't know.

958
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.079
I learned the word up sailing, which is why I

959
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:54.719
used that at the during my intro today, and I

960
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:56.960
didn't realize that it was a different type of rope

961
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:01.719
dissension versus repelling. They were not repelling Paul, they were sailing.

962
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:02.519
Uh.

963
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:05.400
The Internet says it's a synonym. So there you go.

964
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.719
I think it's like anyway, who knows, who knows? The

965
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:10.639
Internet's probably right.

966
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.079
I don't want to miss the chance to ask you this.

967
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:15.480
How do you what do you think of the way

968
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:18.320
she was drawn? You know? I mean, do they capture her?

969
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:19.840
Not so much?

970
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:23.320
I mean I I think there there are like faces

971
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.280
that she makes where I feel like they capture her.

972
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:28.199
So when they do the head on view, I don't

973
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:30.960
think they capture her. But there's the one also when

974
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:32.760
they're in the cargo bay when she's kind of like

975
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:36.199
in semi profile that I think they did a good

976
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.800
job of capturing her. I think they didn't. Maybe they

977
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:44.199
were also making her look like a younger version of Pulaski,

978
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:46.199
right because this is years.

979
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:51.800
Ago, so okay, so I'm like, what, it's a little.

980
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:54.280
Young looking and and I guess I gave them a

981
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:56.320
little bit of levity with that, given that it's a

982
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:59.440
story from the past. But I off the top of

983
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.719
my head, I can't remember how far ahead of like

984
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.719
next generation lower decks is supposed to be. They have

985
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:08.360
that math offhand. Is it in the same kind of

986
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:11.599
general era? Is it just like a few years ahead

987
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:14.760
of next generation? Anyway?

988
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:18.719
I kept thinking it a couple of years before picards,

989
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:19.679
so definitely out there.

990
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:26.400
Okay, TNG hit twenty three sixty four to twenty three

991
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.199
seventy lower dicks charged to twenty three.

992
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:34.239
Eighty Okay, so it's like ten years. So maybe they

993
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:35.960
should have made her look a little bit older because

994
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:37.840
it would have only been five years or so past

995
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:41.360
next generation. Then that they're showing fifteen years ago in

996
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.880
Crito's time. So yeah, I mean, I would say, Paul

997
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.880
I thought the hair was great. They could have made

998
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.320
her look a little bit older, I guess given the

999
00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:55.639
exact timeline. But there's that one sort of semi profile

1000
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:58.719
view that I thought was particularly good. I love that

1001
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:03.119
the that the ship that that Carol Freeman used to

1002
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.199
be on as an ambassador class, because you know, that's

1003
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.079
we've been we talk a lot about the Enterprise, see

1004
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:08.719
and how we haven't seen enough of it, so it's

1005
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.719
cool to have another ambassador class that's important in the

1006
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:18.400
Star Trek lexicon. And you know, the mispronunciations were pretty funny.

1007
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:21.840
They I mean, I guess it was funny that they

1008
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:23.679
kept coming up over and over again. But that was

1009
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:25.360
the moment where I was like, are they just making

1010
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.079
fun of Pulaski? And of course I'm a little defensive

1011
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:29.159
of Polaskies.

1012
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:32.639
I was like, yes, it's hilarious, but are you just

1013
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:33.480
making fun of wor.

1014
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.039
I don't know, maybe it's funny. So uh So, my

1015
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:41.599
overall take on it was that I really liked the

1016
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:46.119
concept of the story. It feels to me like the

1017
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:49.000
writer hasn't quite captured.

1018
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:52.960
The feel of all of the characters yet. But also

1019
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.800
we're just getting started, so maybe, you know, I'll give

1020
00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:59.559
them a chance to kind of like use multiple characters

1021
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:03.159
voice and that kind of stuff. Also, there's a little

1022
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:05.440
bit of the apple doesn't fall far from the tree

1023
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.440
in this entire concept of her mom being just like Mariner,

1024
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:14.000
So you know, for whatever, that's where I don't know,

1025
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:15.519
I'm not sure if I like that or not, or

1026
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:16.840
if I do like it, I don't know.

1027
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.039
Maybe it's cool so I was a little more lukewarm

1028
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:21.639
on this issue than I wanted to be, but I

1029
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:23.360
would still give it a solid seven. I mean, it

1030
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:26.559
was funny and in that Pulaski that in and of

1031
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:28.519
itself is worth at least two points for me.

1032
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:37.440
Well said my friend, Well said, what do you think, David?

1033
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:43.679
Yeah, this episode was a little slow on my end,

1034
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.079
and like Eric was saying that it's just the beginning

1035
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:51.199
of a new toy ark. So oh, I didn't enjoy

1036
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.440
it as much as I did in the next issue.

1037
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.800
But this one in particular was just laying at groundwork.

1038
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:06.239
I'm not as much the biggest fan of Ascate with Pulaski,

1039
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:15.079
but uh, I'm pretty sure quite a few. But uh

1040
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.000
to me, which wasn't as exciting. But to me, yeah,

1041
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:22.039
this one had its own mysteries, like just image right

1042
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.480
here as you can see what a kind of experiments.

1043
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:27.719
I don't even know if they kind of gone into

1044
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:31.400
that whole thing, but yeah, they just they just swung

1045
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.159
in because Red Alert came through right after this scene,

1046
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.000
and it was just like the womulant war bird showed up.

1047
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:38.800
So I was like, okay, just getting a little bit

1048
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.679
better now. But other than that, it was just you know,

1049
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.239
it was okay, it picked my interest to point where

1050
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:49.639
because I actually accidentally read the next issue thinking that

1051
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:52.480
we were going to be reviewing it. Because I totally

1052
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:55.480
forgot that we were going to be reviewing number six,

1053
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.199
I was like, Okay, wait a minute, which one are

1054
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:03.039
we reviewing? So yeah, but knowing what happened, I'm not

1055
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:05.920
gonna give too much away. But I really enjoyed this

1056
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:11.159
particular comic region, and I would have to say, I'm

1057
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:12.639
going to be giving it in eight.

1058
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:14.559
Eight.

1059
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:19.559
That's still impressive. That's still impressive. So yeah, I enjoyed

1060
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:22.559
this one too. Seeing the Ambassador class squaring off against

1061
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:26.639
a war bird was pretty cool. PULASKI, So I love

1062
01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:30.880
the line. Was it Beckett? Was it Boemler? I remember?

1063
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:34.000
I think it was. I don't know. Says that she

1064
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:36.840
took command of the Enterprise, crashed it into a space deck,

1065
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:40.920
destroyed it, and Q had to undo it. So nobody

1066
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.280
ever knew what happened because Q fixed it. So I

1067
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:45.400
thought that was hilarious.

1068
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.480
And yet and yet they know enough to tell the story.

1069
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:47.880
Love.

1070
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:52.039
Yeah, there was no survivors. Well, if there was no survivors,

1071
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:55.079
how do you know what happened, but I thought that

1072
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:56.840
was great. And later on they bring that same thing

1073
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.119
up again. They're like, well, I don't know any Q

1074
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:01.760
that can save us if you crash the ship. There

1075
01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:05.960
was another line like that in there, which I absolutely enjoyed.

1076
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:09.440
But yeah, I'm this was This was a solid story.

1077
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:12.079
It was a lot of fun, and it was nice

1078
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.559
to see uh an episode focused on someone other than Mariner,

1079
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:17.840
in this case her mother, which was fun. I love

1080
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:22.880
the Andorian first officer. It was just a lot of fun.

1081
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:26.360
So yeah, I'm gonna go with this in honor of Paul.

1082
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.280
I'm gonna go with a seven point eight because Paul

1083
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.719
loves those decimals.

1084
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:34.239
Not seven.

1085
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:40.440
It's good seven point eight granular. All right, what do

1086
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.320
you think, Charles Well?

1087
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:45.960
I was looking at looking at my digital copy. It's

1088
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:52.079
like the verse five pages just with Formula and Beckett.

1089
01:03:53.480 --> 01:04:00.480
It wasn't okay, just Beckett being herself as usual. And

1090
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:05.000
then to talk with Mom. I love how it leads

1091
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:09.760
into Mom having a flashback and I've been the one

1092
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:14.679
talking about before. It's like, I like backstories, and this

1093
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:16.920
is the first time. It's like, oh, we get to

1094
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:25.239
see Carol Freeman's backstory, and we always assume she was

1095
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:34.280
just a real well, well put together officer, and she

1096
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:36.920
always seems to be doing it things mostly by the

1097
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:41.320
book that I just couldn't picture her as a lower

1098
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.360
decker that was doing the same thing her daughter did.

1099
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:51.199
Look, do you think this means that Mariner is destined

1100
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:53.199
to be a put together captain?

1101
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:56.599
I think she could be on a way becoming a

1102
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:02.280
good captain because I think I see this one, I thinks,

1103
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:04.199
giving me the idea I'm seeing a lot of Mom.

1104
01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:09.159
I'm seeing a lot of Beckett in Mom. Well maybe

1105
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.079
we can see a lot of Mom and Beckett too,

1106
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:15.840
so but you just kind of find ways of being

1107
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:22.079
lazy and being a lower decker and oh, I'm out

1108
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.039
a uniform while I'm out a uniform when I was

1109
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:27.880
off busy on the holidayck instead of sleeping when I

1110
01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:32.800
should have been, which was interesting. So she tried to

1111
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:36.039
sneak off again later on and find out she's getting

1112
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:42.880
put off to transport to Sick Bay because Pulaski's putting

1113
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:47.079
a curve you in place. And I love the scene

1114
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:49.119
where it's like, oh, I'm studying something, or what are

1115
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:55.039
you studying? Laski psychosis. It's like, and you see her

1116
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:59.440
in this, they love this, saying, oh them, the coming

1117
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:04.320
hold on spontaneous lighting as we got to get her

1118
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:10.719
just in specific lighting for her, it's like, yeah, that's

1119
01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:19.039
that's that's a lower deck thing. And Carol singing. It's like, okay,

1120
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:21.280
I got to sit there and bypass this thing is

1121
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:26.280
so Alaska can't capture me. So she's fooling around with

1122
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:31.599
the transport buffer and the process wires it through the

1123
01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:36.960
theay to the phaser bank and they use phaser banks,

1124
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:40.480
and that all of a sudden takes away in the

1125
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:44.280
bridge crew except for those people who happen to have

1126
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:50.320
had a transport inhibitor on them. Well, I find out,

1127
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:53.039
well who else might have either had that inhibitor or

1128
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:58.559
was blocked out from being beamed off with Bulaski. But

1129
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:01.960
does she admit she's never been a happened before, She's

1130
01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:07.199
never led the ship. And that just leaves me like

1131
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:11.719
I'm in the center seat now. It's like, okay, now

1132
01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.639
I want to see issue eight. And when I first

1133
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.000
read this, it's like Okay, I read the issue and

1134
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:19.440
it's like, okay, this is going to be one of

1135
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:23.760
Eric's favorite and then I got to issue eight and

1136
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:25.920
it's like, oh, issue eight hasn't come out yet. I

1137
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.440
want to see what happens. So it's reading it back

1138
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:33.079
again today and it's like, oh, read issue eight, darn it,

1139
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:37.000
I'm on my kindle. I haven't downloaded h yet. And

1140
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:39.800
then got distracted, so it's like, Okay, I'm getting back

1141
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:44.079
to reading eight coming up. But I think they picked

1142
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:47.280
a good story because it's always been focused on lower

1143
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:50.960
deckers and this time, no, we're going to follow on

1144
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:55.519
Carol being a lower decker, and I like that storyline.

1145
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:59.280
I want to see where they take it. Definitely starting

1146
01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:02.280
off a little that picked up a good speed to

1147
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:03.400
a seven point five.

1148
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:07.440
All right, V can you hear us?

1149
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:08.400
Yes?

1150
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:09.599
I can can you hear me?

1151
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:13.239
Absolutely so? Yeah, I guess it was lower decks issue.

1152
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.960
Yeah, sorry, but I got my power went out, and

1153
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:18.239
now we got another thunderstorm rolling in.

1154
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:18.560
Yeay.

1155
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:19.960
Uh No.

1156
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:23.520
I liked it. Uh. I was not expecting to see Pulaski.

1157
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.600
And if anybody said this already, because I couldn't hear

1158
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:31.159
you because I was, you know, offline. I like the

1159
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:34.800
way they drew her because they gave her that horrible

1160
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:39.479
perm that she had her hair was in that terrible

1161
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:41.560
perm that she had to have on the show. And

1162
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:44.399
also her outfit because she had if I don't know

1163
01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:49.560
if you noticed that Pulaski were a slightly different outfit.

1164
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:53.279
She had the blue top, but it was a little

1165
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:56.079
bit longer, and then she had like pants, didn't have tights.

1166
01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:00.319
Wasn't all you know, sexy and all that, But was

1167
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:04.960
she Do you think that her being misnamed do you

1168
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:08.439
think that had anything to do? Was that a sort

1169
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.640
of a dig like when she called, you know on

1170
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:15.840
TNG she called him data and say Data Data, what's

1171
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.039
the difference? Like one is my name, the other is not.

1172
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:20.159
So do you think that's what that was when they

1173
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:21.960
were calling her the wrong name?

1174
01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:23.760
I think it could have been.

1175
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:30.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was great because I

1176
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:32.800
do want to see the I want to see how

1177
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:36.840
Carol becomes you know, Captain Freeman and how she gets

1178
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:40.439
out of her uh you know, reminds you of Mariner

1179
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:42.600
and see what see what her arc is going to be.

1180
01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.239
So I thought I thought it was really good. I

1181
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:49.159
like that I missed the little notes at the bottom,

1182
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:51.159
but I like that they I guess they do what

1183
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:52.520
they're going to do it with all of them where

1184
01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:55.319
they the issue starts with Badgie, because you know you

1185
01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:58.920
gotta gotta have Badgie and everything at the very beginning,

1186
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:07.119
So I would give it a probably, I don't know when. Eight,

1187
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:08.159
let's be generous.

1188
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:14.399
Eight. All right, Well, that wraps up our review of

1189
01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.840
lower decks six and seven. You're ready to do some

1190
01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:24.159
Star Trek birthdays, Eric, all right, let me click queue

1191
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:25.279
up our birthday song.

1192
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:44.319
That was not a clean one song.

1193
01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:47.079
All right, guys, we like to start off our Star

1194
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:50.199
Trek birthdays by remembering those members of our Star Trek

1195
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family who, sadly enough, are no longer with us, and

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for that we turned to Eric.

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Yeah, Jim, We've got a bunch of remembrances this week, unfortunately,

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and some new ones we'll talk about during news. But

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our first rememberance this week goes to Dennis c Ott,

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the actor and stuntman who appeared in two Star Trek films.

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Ott's first Star Trek film appearance was in Star Trek three,

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01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:15.600
The Search for Spock, in which he played a klingon

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His second was as an alien in Star Trek sixth

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The Undiscovered Country. That particular alien, as I remember keeping

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his genitals in his knees. According to Ott, who stood

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six foot eleven two point one meters, his proudest moment

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was when actor William Shatner told him You're one of

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the only tall people in this town who can actually act.

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Thanks Bill. He appeared in several movies, mostly in bit parts,

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but because of his six foot eleven height, he's always

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easy to spot things he might have seen him in.

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Otherwise Our Police Academy six City under Siege from nineteen

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eighty nine. He was in Roadhouse, that fantastic Patrick Swazey

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movie from eighty nine, The Doors movie from ninety one,

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and Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey also from ninety one. Unfortunately,

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dennisee Ot was lost to AIDS. He found out he

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had it in nineteen ninety and he was lost in

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nineteen ninety four. He was only thirty six years old.

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So happy birthday to Dennessee. We miss you man. Happy

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birthday as well to Percy Rodriguez, the Canadian actor of

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01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:25.439
Afro Portuguese descent who played Commodore Stone in the TS

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01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:28.760
first season episode Court Martial. As such, he was the

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01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:32.399
first black actor to play a flag officer on Star Trek.

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His portrayal as Commander Stone in Star Trek was also

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considered groundbreaking for the time, portraying an authoritarian black officer

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in military command of white subordinates. Several years after his

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01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.600
appearance on Star Trek, Rodriguez worked on another Gene Roddenberry

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product project, the failed TV pilot for Genesis two. His

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01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:55.319
breakout role occurred in nineteen sixty eight, when he portrayed

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a neurosurgeon named Harry Miles in the prime TV soap

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01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:03.560
opera Peyton Place. He also appeared in various other things,

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including Roots, Next Generation and television shows like Sanford and Son,

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01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:12.119
Good Times, What's Happening, and The Jeffersons. He was also

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known for lending his rich, authoritative voice to the narration

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of a number of film trailers, notably Jim nineteen seventy

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01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:25.199
five summer blockbuster Jaws. Yes, he was the guy with

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01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:31.319
the voice during that trailer, So Percy Rodriguez blazing trails

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01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:34.239
all over the place and lending that amazing voice to

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01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:38.520
important things that we still remember to today. Lost back

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in two thousand and seven at the age of eighty

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01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:44.079
nine years old. Happy Birthday, Percy, Happy Birthdays, Well to

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01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.439
cal Bolder the American actor and author who played the

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01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:51.479
role of Keel in the TOS second season episode Friday's Child.

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He spent fourteen years with the Los Angeles Police Department

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before becoming an actor. That led to four movies and

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01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:01.560
twenty years so television roles before he retired from acting

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at the end of the nineteen sixties. His big movie

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role was probably the role of Igor in the memorably

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01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:14.760
bad film Jesse James Meets the Daughter of Frankenstein. I

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haven't seen it, but it sounds amazing. He' stelf published

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01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:22.920
the novel Last Reunion under his birthdame E C. Craver,

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01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:27.680
as well Happy Birthday to cal Boulder, Happy Birthday as

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01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.560
well to William Newman, the actor from Chicago, Illinois who

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01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:35.239
played Calin Tross in the Next Generation four season episode

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01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:38.039
The Host. Through the fifties and sixties, he served in

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01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:41.560
the Armed Forces and became a teacher in English. He

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01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:45.720
made his film debut in Brubaker in nineteen eighty, which also,

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01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:49.479
of course starred Robert Redford, and was in a couple

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other movies with actors like Jack Nicholson and Jessica Lang.

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Lots of stuff on his resume, Mosquito Coast, Funny Farm,

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01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:04.199
Monkey Shines, Hero, Missus, Doubtfire, Leprechaun, The Stand, and Tom

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01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:08.680
and Huck, a bunch of TV two, including some soaps

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01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:11.680
and that sort of stuff. Among his last known acting

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01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:15.159
roles was the horror film Shadow Dead Riot from two

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01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.319
thousand and six, and episodes of Days of Our Lives.

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01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:21.880
William Newman Happy Birthday to You Lost Back in twenty

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01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:26.239
fifteen at the age of eighty years old. Happy Birthday

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01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:28.760
as well to Richard Durr. The actor who made two

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01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:32.119
appearances on Star Trek the original series as two different

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01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:36.039
flag officers. He played Commodore Barstow in the first season

1271
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:39.840
episode The Alternative Factor and Admiral Fitzgerald in the third

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01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:43.600
season episode The Mark of Gideon. He was a highly

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01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:48.039
intelligent gentleman, graduated from his local high school at the

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01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:52.199
young age of sixteen years old, went into World War Two,

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did some military duty along the way, eventually became an actor.

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01:15:57.520 --> 01:15:59.880
Was the star of the nineteen fifty one science fiction

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01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:04.119
classic Win Worlds Collide. He was also in three in

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01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:08.680
the Attic, The Drowning Pool, American Jigglow, and Firefox The

1279
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:12.279
Helicopter Movie Not The Helicopter Show. He also appeared in

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01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:15.439
TV series such as Perry Mason, Outer Limits, Mani, Starsky

1281
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.239
and Hutch, Project, Ufo, Taxi Dallas, and Barnaby Jones. Happy

1282
01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:24.239
birthday to Richard Durr. Happy birthday to John Warburton, the

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01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:27.960
British born actor who played the Romulan Centurion in the

1284
01:16:27.960 --> 01:16:32.760
TS first season episode Balance of Terror. Born in Liverpool, England,

1285
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:36.560
he was an actor known for Cavalcade, Saratoga Trunk and

1286
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:40.720
Secret File Hollywood. He made numerous appearances in a bunch

1287
01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:43.680
of Western movies back in the day, and his motion

1288
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:46.880
picture credits are not vast but have some cool things

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01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:51.560
like Charlie Chan's Greatest Case, Confidential Agent, The Valley of

1290
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:56.720
Decision from the Terrace, and King Rat, which I've never

1291
01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:00.600
even heard of, but that also sounds amazing. Happy birthday

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01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:02.760
to John Warburton, lost all the way back in nineteen

1293
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:06.840
eighty one. Happy birthday as well to Kiya Luke, the

1294
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:10.920
Chinese born American actor played Governor Donald Cory as well

1295
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:14.640
as Fleet Captain Garth in the TOS third season episode

1296
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:19.600
Whom Gods Destroy. Luke was briefly considered for a bunch

1297
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:21.680
of cool roles. Don't know if you know this or not,

1298
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:25.199
but he may have been our original doctor Noonian Sung

1299
01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:30.000
in the Next Generation four season episode Brothers. Of course,

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01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:34.600
that went to Brent Spiner. Eventually, he was a celebrated

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01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:38.520
artist who became a naturalized citizen in nineteen forty four.

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01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:43.760
He made movies like The Painted Veil, which was his debut.

1303
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:47.039
He was also known, and I know that Paul knows this,

1304
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:51.800
for portraying Kato in the original Green Hornet film shorts

1305
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.680
of the nineteen forties, and for his role as Master

1306
01:17:54.880 --> 01:18:00.520
Poe in the nineteen seventies television series Kung Fu. He

1307
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:04.000
was reportedly also considered and I found this fascinating, didn't

1308
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:06.880
know this before now for the role of Obi Wan

1309
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:09.880
Kenobi in Star Trek episode four, A New Hope, But

1310
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:13.279
the role, of course went to Sir Elec Guinness, providing

1311
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:15.840
a very different take on the character from what was

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01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:19.199
originally conceived. He played the role of Mister Wing in

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01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:23.000
the nineteen eighty four John Dante film Gremlins and in

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01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:27.159
nineteen ninety sequel Gremlins Two. One of the most recognized

1315
01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:30.680
voice roles of his was providing the voice of Zoltar

1316
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:35.279
in the hit anime film Battle of the Planets. Kiya

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01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:38.399
Luke lost all the way back in nineteen ninety one,

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01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:40.640
but he was eighty six years old, so he had

1319
01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.520
a pretty good long life. Happy Birthday to Kia Luke

1320
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:46.880
and last, but not least on our remembrance list this

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01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:51.640
week guys is actor Robert Ellenstein, the actor, theater director,

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01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:55.399
and acting teacher who portrayed the Federation President in Star

1323
01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:58.760
Trek for the Voyage Home. He later appeared without the

1324
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:02.199
beard as Van Miller in the Next Generation first season

1325
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:06.159
episode Haven of Course. A longtime friend of Star Trek

1326
01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:10.319
four director and co star Leonard Nimoy. Both Ellenstein and

1327
01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:13.520
Nimoy were early members of the Company of Angels, the

1328
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:19.239
oldest non nonprofit repertory theater in Los Angeles. He had

1329
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:23.000
a career spanning over four decades, and he appeared in

1330
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:26.920
at least fourteen films, five made for TV movies and specials,

1331
01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:31.319
and nearly one hundred television programs. He's also noted for

1332
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:35.720
his extensive stage work, including numerous Los Angeles productions. He

1333
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:40.199
portrayed over one hundred stage roles and also directed numerous

1334
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:45.479
plays along the way, a titan of acting in both theater, television,

1335
01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:48.880
and movies. Robert Ellenstein was lost in twenty ten at

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01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:51.600
the age of eighty seven years old. Happy birthday to

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01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:55.039
Robert and that, gents and ladies, does it for our

1338
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:58.439
remembrances this week. So I am going to pass this

1339
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:00.600
flaming birthday candle over to Ti Charles.

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01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:01.479
Thank you.

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01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:02.199
Rick.

1342
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.600
Let's start with a very happy birthday to Shannon phil

1343
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:12.279
actress would play Cito Jacks and TNG's fifth and seventh

1344
01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:14.399
season episodes First.

1345
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:20.960
Duty and Lower Decks, and reenacted her character and Lower

1346
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:27.560
Decks fourth season episode Old Friend's New Planets. Happy birthday

1347
01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:38.640
to Fred TuS Corey, who voice Shacks and Lower Decks.

1348
01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:42.399
Yep with that actor even reading the comics, which you're

1349
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:46.319
still reading those comics as Shacks, not just a character.

1350
01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:54.920
Birthday two stand up comic actor and comedian who appeared

1351
01:20:55.000 --> 01:21:00.600
as a comedian in the episode The Outrageous So Hannah.

1352
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:08.720
Happy birthday to Joe Piscopoe. Happy birthday to Linda Fornson,

1353
01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:13.880
actress who played Galla Cott in Star Trek's Nection Race

1354
01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:22.239
in Sixteeson episode The Chase Ivy. Birthday Challa hours Da,

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01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:29.319
the actress who played President Lorita Leader Relocan in the

1356
01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:34.520
fourth and fifth season EPI seasons of Star Trek and

1357
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:40.359
Jim Knows Me and let's do a little beyond. A

1358
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:44.760
very happy birthday Judy Whittaker, English actress best known for

1359
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:50.079
her roles A thirteenth Doctor and doctor who We love you,

1360
01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:54.880
Jody Love Jody. Yes, Oh, who's on your list?

1361
01:21:57.880 --> 01:21:59.840
Thank you? Charles Well, we got all kinds of folks

1362
01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:01.840
with birthday is going on right now, so let's get

1363
01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:03.560
to it, shall we. First of all, let's say Happy

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01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:07.680
birthday to Clifton Collins, junior Emmy Award nominated actor who

1365
01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:12.399
played i L in Star Trek at two thousand and nine.

1366
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:16.279
If you will, so very cool there, Happy birthday to

1367
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:19.840
William Lucking. William Lucking was the actor who played Furol

1368
01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:23.159
in Deep Space nine episodes The Darkness and the Light

1369
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:28.520
and Ties of Blood and Water, and also played Harad

1370
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:32.960
sar Over on Enterprise in the fourth season episode Bound.

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01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:35.520
Always cool to see that these actors who were in

1372
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:38.439
one more than one spoke with the franchise. It's like,

1373
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.760
you know, definitely got some busy agents getting your work there,

1374
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:45.079
which is very cool. Excited to be able to say

1375
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:48.520
Happy Birthday to the great John Show, who, of course

1376
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:53.880
portrayed Hikaru Sulu in the J. J Abrams pictures Star

1377
01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:56.039
Trek from two thousand and nine, Star Trek at the

1378
01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:59.439
Darkness and Star Trek Beyond. Will we ever get another one?

1379
01:22:59.479 --> 01:23:01.920
Will we ever get to see John Show be Sulu again?

1380
01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:05.239
I kind of hope. So. I think that it seems very,

1381
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:09.479
very very challenging for Paramount to get a Star Trek

1382
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:13.359
motion picture off the ground. I do not understand it.

1383
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:15.800
Everybody else seems to know how to green light picture.

1384
01:23:17.199 --> 01:23:20.239
You pick a good screenplay and you pay some people.

1385
01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:21.039
It's not that hard.

1386
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:24.399
That's really all there is doing a lot of it

1387
01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:26.760
is having convictions in terms of knowing what you're doing

1388
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:27.960
and knowing what you want, not.

1389
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:31.239
Waffling that the rub there.

1390
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:36.119
Perhaps you should have a strong point of view. Maybe

1391
01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:39.640
that's a good qualification for a producer, I would say,

1392
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:43.520
But that's just one man's opinion. Anyhow, it's been no manahama,

1393
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:46.520
nahamanahama years. As we've got a Star Trek movie. John

1394
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:49.079
Show is gonna have to play like Sulu's grandfather at

1395
01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:51.079
this rate. I mean, you know what I'm saying. I

1396
01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:54.279
mean come on, don't be really cool. But yeah, I mean,

1397
01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:56.439
why not, we'll do a time travel thing or whatever.

1398
01:23:56.479 --> 01:23:58.359
But it's just like, let's get let's get the thing

1399
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:00.720
going here. It's just like it's kind of at this point,

1400
01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:05.119
you know, I know that I would use the phrase laughingstock,

1401
01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:08.119
but you know, but still it's it's kind of embarrassing

1402
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:13.760
considering the you know, how much other franchises are producing content.

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01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:21.920
But I digress, so just ignore me. Fifteen years to

1404
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:24.640
say happy birthday to Alan Van Sprang. Okay, he an

1405
01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:27.800
idiot actor who portrayed Leland in the second season of

1406
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:32.680
Star Trek Discovery. Very very cool. Then oh this next

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01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:36.399
one though, this one's all other fine birthday folks, but

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01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:39.399
this one gets me excited because I just think the

1409
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:42.119
guy's a legend. Okay. I'm a big fan of the

1410
01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:48.079
incredibly prolific British actor Malcolm McDowell, who, of course, in

1411
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:54.600
Starture Generations played doctor Stolian Soren, the man responsible for

1412
01:24:54.760 --> 01:25:00.000
killing James T. Kirk. Yes from Leeds, Yorkshire, England. Malcol

1413
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:03.239
macnowell is, I would say a legend of course. He

1414
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:08.840
burst onto the scene in Stanley Kubrick's Clockwork Orange portraying

1415
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:14.039
villainous Drew Alex in nineteen seventy one, and to come

1416
01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:16.119
out of the gate in a Stanley Kubrick movie, and

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01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:22.840
especially one that was as just pivotally shocking and unpredictable

1418
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:25.680
as that one was. If you've never seen Clockwork Orange,

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01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:27.239
can I just look into the camera and say, what

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01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:28.039
is wrong with you?

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01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:28.960
That's so good?

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01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:32.039
I mean, it is just it is. It is groundbreaking,

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01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:38.000
and it becomes a little bit more relevant every year, unfortunately.

1424
01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:42.600
But fantastic film. Big Kubrick fan, and I just think

1425
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:47.640
it's a remarkable role there. But my personal favorite, I

1426
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:50.239
just always any chance I have to talk about this picture,

1427
01:25:50.359 --> 01:25:54.239
I can't stay away from. It is a much kinder, gentler.

1428
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:58.199
Malcolm McDowell starred in one of my all time favorite films,

1429
01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:03.840
Nicholas Myers Time after Time, where he portrayed HD Wells.

1430
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:06.319
This is one of those movies that a lot of

1431
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:07.359
people have not seen.

1432
01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:08.039
Have you seen this?

1433
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:08.239
Be?

1434
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:09.439
What?

1435
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:10.319
No?

1436
01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:12.600
I have not, and I'm sorry to say I have

1437
01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:16.600
not seen a Clockwork Orange either, so I will hide

1438
01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:17.479
my head in shame.

1439
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:20.640
It's okay, it's kind of dark. It's kind of dark,

1440
01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:23.520
but I know what I'm moving that well is delightful

1441
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:27.960
and enchanting and suspenseful. Seek out time after time. I'm

1442
01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:30.159
always amazed the number of people that have never seen it.

1443
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:34.039
It is absolutely remarkable and it's a really it's a

1444
01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:36.359
side of Malcolm McDowell you don't normally get to see.

1445
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:40.600
And it's just you're entertainment and enchantment. I just love

1446
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:43.479
this picture. And it's directed and written by the great

1447
01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:45.479
Nicholas Meyer, who we were lucky enough to have on

1448
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:48.880
this show. And it's just a it's a love letter

1449
01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:53.600
to the imagination. Big fan of this picture. And again,

1450
01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:57.199
happy birthday, Malcolm McDowell. There's any chance to celebrate you,

1451
01:26:57.399 --> 01:26:59.640
we will take advantage of because I just think you're

1452
01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:03.640
a legend and very very cool. Let's go to current

1453
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:06.720
iterations of Star Trek. We will be in a few

1454
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:09.359
four weeks we will be feasting our eyes once again

1455
01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:13.960
on the great Carol Kane, Emmy Award winning actress who

1456
01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:18.159
plays Pelia and joining up on the second season of

1457
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:21.239
Star Trek, Change New worlds, causing all kinds of antics,

1458
01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:25.880
very antiic driven character. Of course, Calcaine is a legend.

1459
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:30.279
She was on Taxi was spectacular and the Princess Bride

1460
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:32.760
has done tons and tons of work over the years.

1461
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:37.840
Is just a great comedian and hilarious and enchanting performer,

1462
01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:41.520
so always wonderful to get to see her. I'm very

1463
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.000
curious to see what you and the writers do with

1464
01:27:44.039 --> 01:27:51.319
this character in the upcoming season. I think, I'm just

1465
01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:53.680
curious to see. I don't know that you've been utilized

1466
01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:57.520
to the full extent of your very formidable talents in

1467
01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:00.560
this game, so I'm hoping that they get a chance

1468
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:03.000
to let you dial deeper. I think would be great.

1469
01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:06.520
So really look forward to seeing her regardless. And finally,

1470
01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:10.279
for me, another legend, one of the most phenomenal humans

1471
01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:14.560
can think of, is give it up. Give it up

1472
01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:18.600
please in a big way for Zoe Saldana. Okay, I

1473
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:23.680
am just a huge admirer of everything that Zoe Saldana

1474
01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:27.159
has done. Phenomenal talent. I think one of the best

1475
01:28:27.159 --> 01:28:30.880
actresses working out there right now. She of course, we're

1476
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:34.800
acknowledging her for playing Ouvo in the two thousand and

1477
01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:38.000
nine Abram Star Trek and subsequently in Star Trek Into

1478
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:43.560
Darkness and Star Trek Beyond. I think no stretch at

1479
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:46.199
all to say she's wanted highlights for those films every

1480
01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:50.439
time she Joiced Saldana shows up to work, okay, and

1481
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:53.199
she is just phenomenal, and she has just basically owns

1482
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:57.319
science fiction in this current period of filmmaking. Right. She

1483
01:28:57.560 --> 01:29:01.840
has been in multiple Avatar movie these okay as Natiri,

1484
01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:07.079
multiple Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers movies as Gomora, right.

1485
01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:14.600
I mean, she is just unbelievable, really really impressive, tremendous actress.

1486
01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:16.479
I don't know if everyone had a chance to see

1487
01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:20.840
her in Amelia Perez where she won the Oscar this year,

1488
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:24.439
but she's dynamite picture. I think the movie got a

1489
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.560
bad rap for all kinds of reasons, but Zoe Saldana

1490
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:31.479
is just stunningly good in it, really really great. So

1491
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:34.920
man again, I would really like to see this cast

1492
01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:38.640
come back and do another Star Trek movie. And you know,

1493
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:40.880
if it's only one more, great but go out with

1494
01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:43.720
a bang. You know, you got such a talented bunch

1495
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:46.279
of actors there, it seems a waste to let them

1496
01:29:46.319 --> 01:29:51.079
slip through your fingers. So paramount worse noverre We're wondering,

1497
01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:54.159
how can you have the option to work with Zoe

1498
01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:57.760
Saldana and letting and let it go. I don't get it.

1499
01:29:57.600 --> 01:30:02.159
It seems to me anyhow. That's my celebration. I'm thrilled

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01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:05.560
to be able to tip our hats here in the

1501
01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:09.079
middle of June to all these fabulous birthday celebrates. And

1502
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:12.560
we'll see who Uncle Jim's got on his birthday plate.

1503
01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:14.239
Uncle Jim, take it away.

1504
01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:17.199
Baby, Thank you, Paul. I usually pick all the Klingons

1505
01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:20.800
for myself, but unfortunately we don't have any Klingons. But

1506
01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:23.800
I've got the next best thing. I've got a gunch

1507
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:27.079
of awesome women on my list. First of all, the

1508
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:31.079
first Captain, we want to say happy birthday to Adam Marris.

1509
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:34.119
She was born on June thirteenth. The actors who played

1510
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:37.279
her Nandez and the Enterprise fourth season episodes Home a

1511
01:30:37.359 --> 01:30:42.000
Flction and Divergence, And there she is. And she technically

1512
01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:46.359
is our first Captain because she served on NXO two.

1513
01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:50.399
So happy birthday to Adam Marris. And now we've got

1514
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:54.680
a couple of Curtises that are not related. First, we

1515
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:57.920
want to say happy birthday to Kelly Curtis, born on

1516
01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:01.239
June seventeenth. She's the actor who played Starta and DS

1517
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:05.520
nine's fifth season episode cap Their Pursuit. She's the older

1518
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:08.720
sister of Jamie Lee hurt As, who appeared in Star

1519
01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:12.359
Trek Section thirty one, and the daughter of film stars

1520
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:15.680
Tony Curtis and Janet Lee and of course you know

1521
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:20.680
who they are. So happy birthday to Kelly Curtis and

1522
01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:26.159
another awesome Curtis on our list of no relation, Robin Curtis,

1523
01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:29.479
born on this June fifteenth. She was on our podcast

1524
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:33.279
not too long ago. She's the actors who played Savag

1525
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:36.319
and Star Trek three, The Search for Spot and Star

1526
01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:40.239
Trek four The Voyage Home. She also played Talara on

1527
01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:44.960
the TNG seven season episodes Gambit Part One and Gambit

1528
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:50.000
Part two. And that My Friends wraps up our Star

1529
01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:54.520
Trek birthdays. And now it's time for some Star Trek news.

1530
01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:58.600
I'm gonna turn it over to Eric. Eric, take it away, buddy.

1531
01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:02.479
Well, unfortunately we're starting our news this week with a

1532
01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:06.319
bit of a remembrance, a new remembrance, and in fact,

1533
01:32:06.439 --> 01:32:09.560
we just talked about this episode not more than a

1534
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:14.640
few months ago. Harris Yulin, the actor who perpetually played

1535
01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:18.600
the bad guy, is unfortunately gone at eighty seven years

1536
01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:24.479
Old Harris Ullen, veteran actor whose work included appearances in Scarface,

1537
01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:28.800
Training Day, and Star Trek, Deep Space Nine died June tenth,

1538
01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:32.039
twenty twenty five, of cardiac arrest in New York City,

1539
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:36.039
at the age of eighty seven. Spanning nearly one hundred

1540
01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:39.399
and fifty roles from nineteen seventy to twenty twenty four,

1541
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:43.600
Eulan's work never made him a household name, yet it

1542
01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:46.960
earned him an Emmy Award nomination in nineteen ninety six

1543
01:32:47.399 --> 01:32:50.680
for his appearance on the sitcom Fraser, and made him

1544
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:55.600
recognizable to film buffs and television fans across several generations.

1545
01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:59.960
In addition to landmarks like Scarface and Training Day, Eulin

1546
01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:03.880
was in movies such as Ghostbusters two, Clear and Present Danger,

1547
01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:08.000
and The Million Dollar Hotel. Perhaps more prominent was his

1548
01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:13.000
television work, which included popular shows of several eras Kojak

1549
01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:15.960
and Little House on the Prairie in the nineteen seventies,

1550
01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:19.920
Cagney and Lacy in the nineteen eighties, Star Trek, Deep

1551
01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:22.960
Space Nine in the nineteen nineties, and in the twenty

1552
01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:27.279
first century, The X Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Law

1553
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:32.600
and Order, Veep, Ozark and many others. He was also

1554
01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:36.399
a well traveled stage actor, performing in Ireland and on

1555
01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:40.159
Broadway and productions of The Diary Van Frank, Death of

1556
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:44.680
a Salesman and others. To Star Trek fans, Harris Eulen

1557
01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:49.640
will always be Amon Maritza from the Deep Space nine

1558
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:54.399
episode Duet, perhaps in my opinion, one of the best

1559
01:33:54.439 --> 01:33:58.640
episodes of Deep Space nine and probably one of the

1560
01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:02.439
top ten episode of Star Trek ever in all time.

1561
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:07.359
That role was unbelievable. I just really respect this man's

1562
01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:10.479
body of work, and it's too bad that we lost him.

1563
01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:13.119
I guess it happens to us all. But I'm just

1564
01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:15.119
so glad that there's so much out there that we

1565
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:19.199
can always go back and watch again and remember this

1566
01:34:19.399 --> 01:34:23.680
important and influential actor. Harris Ewlen lost just a couple

1567
01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:25.720
of days ago, well almost a week ago now, on

1568
01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:30.319
June tenth of this year. So that does it for

1569
01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:33.600
that story? V Why don't just set us up for

1570
01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.960
a little bit of a happier thing, all right?

1571
01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:40.359
Well, if I can add real quick. Malcolm McDowell is

1572
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:46.840
also the uncle of Alexander Sadig, who played Doctor Bisher

1573
01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:52.720
and Jamie Lee Curtis is married to Christopher Guest, who

1574
01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:56.039
might know from you know, this is Spinal Tap and

1575
01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:59.960
all those great movies. So just how to put the

1576
01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:03.880
So we have some exciting news, and I wonder what

1577
01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:05.840
the age limit is because I want to do this.

1578
01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:12.800
Star Trek's Starfleet Academy becomes real with Nachelle Nichols Space Camp.

1579
01:35:13.560 --> 01:35:17.880
So Nachelle Nichols the original Ohura. The Space Camp opens

1580
01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:22.039
its doors in January twenty twenty six, and it's the

1581
01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:26.439
closest thing to a real life Starfleet Academy as seen

1582
01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:30.760
in Star Trek. Inspired by the legacy of Nachelle Nichols,

1583
01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:35.239
who played the iconic Lieutenant Niota o'hura on Star Trek

1584
01:35:35.239 --> 01:35:39.159
the original series, Nachelle Nickels Space Camp is committed to

1585
01:35:39.239 --> 01:35:44.359
giving young women in an education and future careers in

1586
01:35:44.520 --> 01:35:51.000
steam science, technology, engineering, arts, and math, impacting their lives

1587
01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:55.479
for the better. Nachelle Nickels Space Camp also represents Star

1588
01:35:55.560 --> 01:36:03.479
Trek's philosophy of idic infinite diversity in infinite combinations. Nachelle

1589
01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:06.800
Nickels Space Camp is a partnership between the Naschelle Nichols

1590
01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:11.800
Foundation and the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama.

1591
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.520
Since nineteen eighty two, the US Space and Rocket Center

1592
01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:20.640
has been a globally recognized program that mirrors the intensive

1593
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:27.159
training of NASA astronauts, emphasizing teamwork and leadership, and fueling

1594
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:31.960
the dreams of future space explorers. Nachelle Nickels Space Camp

1595
01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:36.560
is open to young minds from all fifty States territories

1596
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:42.000
and over one hundred and fifty foreign countries, reflecting the

1597
01:36:42.039 --> 01:36:47.680
diversity and inclusivity of Starfleet and the United Federation of Planets.

1598
01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:51.560
Michelle Nickels Space Camp is a three day program combining

1599
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:58.279
established astronaut training including zero G and space suits, with

1600
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:04.560
topics like Mars columnation and the possibility to our possibility

1601
01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:10.119
to contact intelligent alien life. Michelle Nickelspace Camp post programs

1602
01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:15.640
for a wide array of space enthusiasts, including learning about space,

1603
01:37:16.119 --> 01:37:20.199
aviation and robotics. Students will work as a team and

1604
01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:26.199
confront mission scenarios that require dynamic problem solving and critical thinking,

1605
01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:31.840
developing twenty first century learning skills applicable to real life

1606
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:37.239
workplaces and everyday life. That sounds fantastic and I'm too old,

1607
01:37:37.319 --> 01:37:42.520
but I hope lots of kids go into that program.

1608
01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:45.960
All right now, Jim, you've got something to tell us about.

1609
01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:49.720
Yeah, thank you so much. VI. Michelle Yo Star Treks

1610
01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:56.039
Section thirty one performance nominated for Critics Choice Super Award January.

1611
01:37:56.119 --> 01:37:59.479
Star Trek Section thirty one was a franchise's first Foray

1612
01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:04.520
industry movies, arriving with mixed reactions from the media and fans,

1613
01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:08.720
but Star Michelle Yo did receive some praise for her performance,

1614
01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:12.159
and she just picked up another accolade to form an

1615
01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:16.680
award nomination. The Critic Choice Association announced the nominees for

1616
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:20.960
the annual Critics Choice Super Awards, honor in the year's

1617
01:38:20.960 --> 01:38:26.840
finest and Genre Fiction, which includes categories like superhero, science fiction, fantasy,

1618
01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:30.920
for an action. For this year, there was only a

1619
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:34.920
single nomination for the Star Trek franchise. Michelle Yo picked

1620
01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:37.520
up the nod for Best Actress in a Science Fiction

1621
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:42.640
Fantasy Series, Limited Series or Made for TV Movie for

1622
01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:46.640
her performance as Philippa Georgeou, reprising her role as the

1623
01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:51.600
former Terran emperor from Star Trek Discovery for the streaming movie.

1624
01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:55.399
While Section thirty one struggled with mostly negative reviews, the

1625
01:38:55.479 --> 01:39:00.319
nomination demonstrates Michelle Yo, as her fans amongst critics. This

1626
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:04.119
isn't a big surprise, as her trophy shelf includes many

1627
01:39:04.159 --> 01:39:09.119
prestigious awards, including an Academy Award, a Golden Globe, and

1628
01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:13.720
a Screen Actors Guild Award. She previously won as Critics

1629
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:17.239
Choice Super Award in twenty twenty three for her leading

1630
01:39:17.319 --> 01:39:22.840
role in the film Everything Everywhere, All at Once. Section

1631
01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:25.920
thirty one did hit the Nielsen's Top ten list for

1632
01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:30.520
three weeks. Star Trek executive producer Alex Kurtzman has expressed

1633
01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:33.199
hopes that it could be the first of a series

1634
01:39:33.479 --> 01:39:37.520
of streaming Star Trek movies, but so far there is

1635
01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:42.640
no word on any other streaming movie project going into development.

1636
01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:49.079
How unfortunate for us. And with that, wait, we have

1637
01:39:49.159 --> 01:40:00.000
one more thing to discuss, David roll the tape. Maybe

1638
01:40:00.439 --> 01:42:34.359
here we go, There we go. Maybe maybe.

1639
01:41:29.159 --> 01:41:34.720
After forty years, we asked what do the fans want?

1640
01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:43.840
But instead we're making this movie. May the Schwartz be

1641
01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:44.479
with you.

1642
01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:53.159
So I wanted to end the show with that because

1643
01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:55.119
I saw it and I was like, this can't be real.

1644
01:41:55.840 --> 01:42:00.199
But it's real. So I just I can't wow. I

1645
01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:03.920
am so excited for this movie. We don't we don't

1646
01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:08.800
we don't have John Candy anymore unfortunately, so Barf won't

1647
01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:11.800
be around unless they'll be casting. But Paul, what do

1648
01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:15.600
you think are you looking forward to this one?

1649
01:42:15.800 --> 01:42:16.199
Yeah?

1650
01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:18.279
I mean this is like one of those trailers, man,

1651
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:20.720
where it's like, you know, I mean, it's a it's

1652
01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:23.600
a deal trailer. It's like we have a deal, we're

1653
01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:25.680
kind of got a green light. I mean, you know,

1654
01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:28.560
let's you know, I don't like to get too excited

1655
01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:31.920
till we actually have a product. Right, It's just like

1656
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:36.479
I'm hoping it happens. You know, it could happen, probably

1657
01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:39.039
will happen, but you know, it's a little early to

1658
01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:41.119
get too excited because this is just this is pa.

1659
01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:44.359
They don't they're not making the movie yet. You know,

1660
01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:46.560
there was no scrip there. You know, they have a

1661
01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:50.479
pitch and they're they're hopeful. Right. It's good to stay hopeful,

1662
01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:52.439
you know. So I'm hoping that it's good. I mean,

1663
01:42:52.560 --> 01:42:53.960
I don't think it would be really hard to make

1664
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:57.680
a better one than the first. You know, there's a

1665
01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:00.199
lot of it's it's you know, it's fun to look

1666
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:02.520
back at it with nostalgia, right, But I mean I

1667
01:43:02.520 --> 01:43:06.159
think they could do better. And it's it's I think

1668
01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:07.640
we all can you know, who knows what they'll be

1669
01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:09.199
riffing on. I mean, they had like thirty eight years

1670
01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:12.279
of new science fiction to parody since then, right, so

1671
01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:14.880
I think that you know, they had a very narrow

1672
01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:21.159
lens to to parody. Right, we had like one, maybe

1673
01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:24.479
two Star Wars movies when Spaceballs came down. So now

1674
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:27.079
I mean I got, you know, decades worth of other

1675
01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:29.640
genre stuff to riff so they could really get So

1676
01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:31.640
we'll see what they do. I mean, I hope they

1677
01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:34.920
try something fresh, and I wish them the best. You know,

1678
01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:37.680
there's hoping it's a success and that actually comes together.

1679
01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:42.479
What do you think, Eric, Well, you know, I generally speaking,

1680
01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:45.800
I do enjoy mel Brooks humor. I'm probably one of

1681
01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:49.199
the few people on the planet who's actually enjoyed watching

1682
01:43:49.319 --> 01:43:52.279
History of the World Part two, which has been the

1683
01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:54.880
television show that was just made in the last few years. Here.

1684
01:43:56.680 --> 01:43:59.840
You know, it's a certain brand of humor, man, and

1685
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:03.439
either like it or you hate it. There are very

1686
01:44:03.439 --> 01:44:06.159
few people who just sort of like it. You know,

1687
01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:11.199
I'm in the like it camp, don't. I don't mind

1688
01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:15.479
how over the top and ridiculous it is. So I

1689
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:17.880
didn't realize that there wasn't a script or anything, that

1690
01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:20.640
this was more of a pitch thing. But you know,

1691
01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:25.359
I mean, who's not this man like, for lack of

1692
01:44:25.359 --> 01:44:27.439
a better term, is kind of on deaf store at

1693
01:44:27.479 --> 01:44:29.760
this point, So who's not gonna like this?

1694
01:44:30.359 --> 01:44:33.359
Make the movie?

1695
01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:37.239
I will go and watch it. I will likely enjoy it.

1696
01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:41.960
Have I gone back and watched Spaceballs like fourteen times? No,

1697
01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:44.680
but I've probably seen it half a dozen times, and

1698
01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:46.039
every once in a while it's kind of fun to

1699
01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:48.960
go back and revisit. So yeah, yeah, I'm totally excited

1700
01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:53.560
about this, and and I'll follow mel Brooks wherever he

1701
01:44:53.640 --> 01:44:55.560
wants to take us, honestly.

1702
01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.159
And we did have Tim Russ on the podcast not

1703
01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:02.479
too long ago, and he was in Spaceballs with that

1704
01:45:02.520 --> 01:45:06.359
famous scene when they say combed the desert and he

1705
01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:11.319
says we ain't found shit. That was Tim rust So yeah.

1706
01:45:11.279 --> 01:45:12.880
That was like the one thing he didn't want to

1707
01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:13.640
talk about.

1708
01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:15.439
The one thing he wanted to talk about. I asked

1709
01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:16.640
him about go figure.

1710
01:45:16.920 --> 01:45:18.600
Yeah, he was just like, this is what.

1711
01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:27.279
I have to ask about Spaceballs. Yeah. I went to

1712
01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:30.279
see Spaceballs at the movie theater with my wife, my

1713
01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:34.439
girlfriend Karen. I loved it. I absolutely I loved at

1714
01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:37.079
the beginning when the Star Destroyer flies over and they're

1715
01:45:37.079 --> 01:45:40.359
playing the Jaws music and it just goes on and

1716
01:45:40.439 --> 01:45:44.920
on and on. Everyone in the theater is just cracking up,

1717
01:45:44.960 --> 01:45:47.640
and it's just I love the movie. I love the movie,

1718
01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:49.520
and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it.

1719
01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:53.319
Just the tone of the trailer when they're listening. There's

1720
01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:55.920
been thirty seven Star Wars movies who were prequels. One

1721
01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:56.520
was a sequel.

1722
01:45:56.960 --> 01:45:57.479
That trailer.

1723
01:45:57.560 --> 01:45:59.239
That was the first time I'd seen that trailer, and

1724
01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:02.279
it was freakinghilarious.

1725
01:46:03.119 --> 01:46:05.720
Let's not forget the alien movies, with four Predator movies

1726
01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:08.239
who technically are an alien movies included. I mean, the

1727
01:46:08.239 --> 01:46:11.000
whole trailer just set the tone for what I think

1728
01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:13.520
the movie's going to be, and there's so much that

1729
01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:15.560
they can pull from. I'm really looking forward to seeing

1730
01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:17.760
it and I hope they do a great job. And

1731
01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:20.960
uh yeah, I hadn't seen the trailer yet either, So

1732
01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:23.039
that's why I wanted to show it here for you guys,

1733
01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:25.239
because I know a lot of people missed it when

1734
01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:27.680
they dropped it. So what do you think? V did

1735
01:46:27.680 --> 01:46:29.640
you see the original space Ball as you looking forward

1736
01:46:29.640 --> 01:46:30.000
to this one?

1737
01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:32.800
Well, it's been it's been a long time since I

1738
01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:36.960
saw it. I actually did see the trailer for Baseballs too.

1739
01:46:38.119 --> 01:46:42.479
I thought it was hilarious. And I've seen some talk

1740
01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:46.920
on you know, online, and a lot of people don't

1741
01:46:46.920 --> 01:46:50.159
want bar free casts because John Candy was just a

1742
01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:53.319
comedic genius, and so they said they want to have

1743
01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:55.800
like a memorial of him where they have like, didn't

1744
01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:58.319
he have like a collar or something, just have his

1745
01:46:58.359 --> 01:47:01.319
little collar, you know, with a underneath his picture or

1746
01:47:01.359 --> 01:47:05.840
something like that. So I I, you know, and I

1747
01:47:06.359 --> 01:47:09.079
doubt I was going to say didn't realize that Tim

1748
01:47:09.159 --> 01:47:12.399
rust was because I've seen clips of him saying, you know,

1749
01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:15.720
that's you know, I was. I was t vaking in

1750
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:19.359
Star Trek Voyage journal people can ask me, is about

1751
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:24.640
base polls where he didn't find shit? Yeah, so I'm

1752
01:47:24.680 --> 01:47:28.039
guessing he's not going to reprise that role in the movie.

1753
01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:33.560
No. There's a funny He did a TikTok video of

1754
01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:37.600
that and he's sitting at a cat box with a

1755
01:47:37.720 --> 01:47:39.800
with a comb and he's combing through the little box

1756
01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:42.039
and he looks up me and says I ain't found shit.

1757
01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:46.319
So he makes fun of his own appearance as well.

1758
01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:47.399
What about it?

1759
01:47:47.439 --> 01:47:48.079
What about it?

1760
01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:50.880
Charles against Baseball?

1761
01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:55.479
I did see the preview, and I'm gonna give it

1762
01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:59.840
a chance. Like Eric, well a little bit like Eric.

1763
01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:03.640
Unlike Eric. I tried to watch his Toy of the

1764
01:48:03.640 --> 01:48:08.560
World Part two and realized some of the comedy comedy

1765
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:13.840
just isn't quite making it to the new century.

1766
01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:18.680
It's got an edge, man, it's got a hard edge.

1767
01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:21.319
It's still got the class, it's still got the classic

1768
01:48:21.399 --> 01:48:24.680
comedy to it. Which and I'm a mel Brooks fan.

1769
01:48:25.960 --> 01:48:32.279
Blazing Saddles his The World Part one were great movies

1770
01:48:32.279 --> 01:48:39.199
when they came out. Curious to see what he does

1771
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.119
with this one, and I will see it. I will

1772
01:48:42.119 --> 01:48:45.479
definitely go and watch it, because yep, I'm a Spaceballs fan.

1773
01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:50.199
Well, David, we're probably putting you on the spot because

1774
01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:52.760
I don't think you were born when Spaceballs came out,

1775
01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:55.199
but you might have caught it on TV at some

1776
01:48:55.359 --> 01:48:57.039
point or rented the video.

1777
01:48:57.319 --> 01:48:59.520
When did it come out? Now, I'm curious. I didn't

1778
01:48:59.520 --> 01:49:09.960
actually look then. I'm not that young. I got gray now.

1779
01:49:11.479 --> 01:49:13.840
But who doesn't like a good spoof? I mean I

1780
01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:16.279
like Young Frankenstein. That was one of my favorite movies

1781
01:49:16.319 --> 01:49:20.960
growing up. H And you know, speaking of poofs, has

1782
01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:26.880
anybody seen thumb Wars? Yep, that Thumb Those are pretty

1783
01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:29.439
good spoof beIN off of all sorts of different types

1784
01:49:29.479 --> 01:49:33.359
of TV shows and whatnot. But yeah, I'm looking forward

1785
01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:35.800
to it. I did see the original space Ball and

1786
01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:38.439
I thought it was a really hilarious and I haven't

1787
01:49:38.479 --> 01:49:43.399
seen it in a long time, but yeah, I'm I'm

1788
01:49:43.399 --> 01:49:45.159
excited about it and seeing what they can do.

1789
01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:49.000
We'll probably talk about it on this very podcast, which

1790
01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:53.279
it comes out a long long time from now. All right, guys,

1791
01:49:53.319 --> 01:49:57.479
Well that wraps up our podcast for this week. H Paul,

1792
01:49:57.560 --> 01:49:59.399
What are we going to be talking about next week?

1793
01:49:59.439 --> 01:50:02.640
Buddy tantalize our viewers.

1794
01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:06.079
Well, friends, if you think you know science fiction, and

1795
01:50:06.159 --> 01:50:08.680
do you think that it's either column A or Column B,

1796
01:50:08.880 --> 01:50:12.319
Star Wars or Star Trek, guess what, there's a whole

1797
01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:15.119
column ce that you don't even know about. And we're

1798
01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:20.920
going to dive into the wackiness of legendary cult British

1799
01:50:20.960 --> 01:50:24.880
science fiction phenomenon. That is, if you need a dose

1800
01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:27.000
of the seventies, Do we have a dose of the

1801
01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:30.840
seventies for you. We are going deep into Space nineteen

1802
01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:35.199
ninety nine next week, okay, and we're going to talk

1803
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:38.119
a little bit about season one, not so much about

1804
01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:40.319
season two, but we'll probably talk about it a lot.

1805
01:50:40.359 --> 01:50:45.920
But it's unique, very much to quote what Eric just

1806
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:48.279
said a few minutes ago in another context, you either

1807
01:50:48.279 --> 01:50:51.640
really like it or you really really don't. And it's

1808
01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:55.039
a thing of its era, frankly, but it features the

1809
01:50:55.079 --> 01:51:00.399
great Martin Landau and Barbara Vain, Barry Morris and released

1810
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:03.479
you're gonna see some of the most groundbreaking special effects ever,

1811
01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:08.000
this from like the early seventies. So look forward to it.

1812
01:51:08.119 --> 01:51:10.800
Check it out. We'll have some fun clips on here.

1813
01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:14.640
And I just love this crazy show. It's a train

1814
01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:18.640
wrecord times, but man is it fun. And it's definitely

1815
01:51:18.680 --> 01:51:20.479
a product of its era. So if you're ready to

1816
01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:23.720
talk seventies science fiction, show up next week and we'll

1817
01:51:23.800 --> 01:51:25.239
knock your socks off with this thing.

1818
01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:28.439
It's great. So there you go. This is our Beyond,

1819
01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:30.600
our Star Trek Beyond. We're going beyond.

1820
01:51:31.199 --> 01:51:33.760
So a lot of people don't remember, they've never seen it,

1821
01:51:33.760 --> 01:51:36.840
they've never watched it, they don't know about Jerry Anderson. Right,

1822
01:51:36.920 --> 01:51:39.560
So this is this is especially I am hitting in

1823
01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:43.119
Morse code button to all of our global fans in

1824
01:51:43.239 --> 01:51:47.640
the UK and beyond, because over there, Space nineteen ninety

1825
01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:50.239
is a big deal. I happen to know in particular,

1826
01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:55.159
Italy is exploding for some reason. I'm not really sure why.

1827
01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:58.319
Italy is shock full of Space nineteeney nine fans. It

1828
01:51:58.399 --> 01:52:01.680
is huge over there. They have ridiculou list conventions. It's nuts.

1829
01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:05.239
But we're gonna talk some British sci fi next week

1830
01:52:05.279 --> 01:52:07.039
and have a lot of fun talking about it and

1831
01:52:07.079 --> 01:52:09.479
hopefully a lot of laughs because I think we could

1832
01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:10.800
use it. So there we go.

1833
01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:16.039
Absolutely, And you guys probably noticed I snuck in a

1834
01:52:16.399 --> 01:52:22.159
special birthday just for Charles and Eric this week. I

1835
01:52:22.239 --> 01:52:25.600
threw that in there because we reviewed those episodes on

1836
01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:29.720
this very podcast. We reviewed the Jody Whitaker doctor Who.

1837
01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:32.960
So hey, if you ever want to talk about and

1838
01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:37.000
shoot take Gottla episodes. Man, I'm all about filling time

1839
01:52:37.119 --> 01:52:38.439
with some new doctor who.

1840
01:52:39.479 --> 01:52:42.319
We just might do that. We just might do that,

1841
01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:45.159
all right, guys, Well, that wraps up the podcast. I'm

1842
01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:47.720
your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, and I want to

1843
01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:49.800
say thank you, and good night to Charles for hanging

1844
01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:51.840
out in trek talking with us. Tony, thank you so much.

1845
01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:54.800
Carol, Oh, thank you. It's always fun talking trek and

1846
01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:57.119
lower decks lower.

1847
01:52:57.720 --> 01:53:00.399
Lower decks, low word deck both.

1848
01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:04.199
So the the I T the it T woman that

1849
01:53:04.319 --> 01:53:06.399
worked at the school that I'm working at, is a

1850
01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:08.960
huge star Treks fan. And every time we see each

1851
01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:11.319
other in the hallways, I'm going to shout out to Whitney.

1852
01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:16.760
She gives me the Bulkan salute, the sarcastic so U,

1853
01:53:17.199 --> 01:53:20.079
which is always fun. And thank you so much t

1854
01:53:20.199 --> 01:53:22.720
V for hanging out and trek talking with us. Thank

1855
01:53:22.760 --> 01:53:24.239
you so much for all right.

1856
01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:30.720
Always a pleasure. And again I can't do it, but

1857
01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:32.720
I like at the end where she goes, she goes

1858
01:53:33.439 --> 01:53:36.039
like that when she has.

1859
01:53:38.079 --> 01:53:41.319
The Klingons. Uh, what did the Klingons say? Live short

1860
01:53:41.359 --> 01:53:45.199
and die without honor, live long and die without the

1861
01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:47.319
lower decks? Klingons had a different.

1862
01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:48.560
Same thing.

1863
01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:52.880
The gem hadar s victory is life?

1864
01:53:53.479 --> 01:53:56.399
Yeah? What did the anyways, And I want to say

1865
01:53:56.399 --> 01:53:58.199
thank you so much for Paul for hanging out with

1866
01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:01.560
us and trek talking and recommending space nineteen ninety nine.

1867
01:54:01.600 --> 01:54:02.520
Thank you Paul.

1868
01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:05.359
Oh, it's gonna be fun. We're gonna get crazy. Beyond

1869
01:54:05.479 --> 01:54:06.199
is a good place to.

1870
01:54:06.159 --> 01:54:10.199
Be, especially now. And thank you so much to Eric

1871
01:54:10.199 --> 01:54:12.079
for hanging out in Trek talking with us. Thank you

1872
01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:12.479
so much.

1873
01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:12.880
Eric.

1874
01:54:13.399 --> 01:54:15.920
Absolutely, I had a great time tonight. And I have

1875
01:54:16.039 --> 01:54:18.600
been watching Space nineteen ninety nine for the last month

1876
01:54:18.680 --> 01:54:21.640
and I am all in, buddy, so I'm super excited

1877
01:54:21.640 --> 01:54:22.760
to talk about it next week.

1878
01:54:23.319 --> 01:54:24.880
I'm Dragon's Domain.

1879
01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:27.479
I just watched that episode last night.

1880
01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:29.199
Yeah.

1881
01:54:29.199 --> 01:54:34.199
All I can say about Dragon's Domain oh my yeah.

1882
01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:40.239
I oh, we'll go more next week. But the paralysis

1883
01:54:40.279 --> 01:54:42.079
that that invaded.

1884
01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:46.479
Yeah, thanks for thanks for giving me sleepless nights.

1885
01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:53.079
Yeah, memorably disturbing, man, I'll tell you.

1886
01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:55.479
Yeah. And I want to say thank you so much

1887
01:54:55.520 --> 01:54:57.760
to David for all the work you do with all

1888
01:54:57.800 --> 01:55:00.279
the video clips and the birthdays and everything. Thank you

1889
01:55:00.319 --> 01:55:00.920
so much, David.

1890
01:55:01.479 --> 01:55:04.680
You're welcome and miracle worker transmission out.

1891
01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:09.760
That's right, And as I said, I'm your most excellent host.

1892
01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:13.199
Uncle Jim saying everybody please stay safe and be good

1893
01:55:13.239 --> 01:55:16.640
to each other. Remember Star Trek fans are the best fans.

1894
01:55:16.920 --> 01:55:22.399
You better believe that hailing frequencies are closed good night everybody.

1895
01:55:22.600 --> 01:55:25.479
I'm long and prosper long and prosper.

1896
01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:27.720
All visions.

1897
01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:29.359
I'm ready for departure, Sir.

1898
01:55:32.960 --> 01:55:36.079
Some problem RCA, just hoping this isn't the usual way

1899
01:55:36.079 --> 01:55:37.079
of missions will go, sir.

1900
01:55:37.720 --> 01:55:41.079
Oh, no, number one. I'm sure most will be much

1901
01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:41.760
more interesting.

1902
01:55:45.760 --> 01:56:01.800
Let's see what's up there. Engage