EPISODE 642- Strange New Worlds given a fifth, final and shortened season.

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0:51 We talk about the series coming to New. Is Now, talking about the series. On showing. Well good evening Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe. I'm your most taxent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast. Today's Thursday, June twelfth, twenty twenty five, and this is episode six hundred and forty of Trek Talking and Beyond.

1:37 I want to introduce you to my awesome truk Sperts. And we'll start off with Paul. Paul's out in Portland. How you doing tonight, Paul? Never a dull moment, Uncle Jim. I'm sure you can relate, but never yeah, never, never, never I guess the world likes a plot t us occasionally. But I'm doing okay. I'm doing good. I'm good to the longest Tomorrow's Friday, I'm doing okay. Friday's e And also from Portland, we have our very own Eric, How you doing tonight? Eric? I'm doing okay. Jim definitely thinking a lot about our brothers and sisters down there in LA and other parts of the country who are demonstrating for what they believe in. Stand with you, brothers and sisters. I personally am doing pretty good today though, had a good.

2:19 Day, excellent, excellent. And also from Portland, we have our very own David, He's our a miracle worker on the podcast how You doing Tonight? David bumbed pretty bummed. Um, yeah, I pop him back again. And uh, I'm a little depressed that we're not going to be able to speak to our guest today. That's why I don't have the trouble here because he's depressed too, so you know. And surprisingly enough, not from Portland, but from Virginia, we have the how you doing tonight? V doing all right? Sideways we'll con salute or sarcastic fall concert as Vulcans.

3:01 What did the Klingons call that on lower decks? Didn't they have a was live, live, short and die without honor? What did the Klingons say? No, No, I don't remember. I remember that episode anyways. Yeah. Well, so, as as David said, Alex Deal will not be joining us, he canceled out about an hour or two ago, and I didn't have time to fill the slot that quick. So there you have it, so he won't be with us. You mean that's a full two hours of just the five of us. Just us? Yeah, man, can we do it? I think that's that's that's when they shows that it's the best, right, that's when it really Hold on a second, let's prepare for this, so it's just the five of us.

3:48 No guests, right, no guests, let's all do this. Remove filter. There we are, Okay, I am now unhinged and ready for fun. Uh. So, you guys can help support trek talking by head over to our Patreon page with it. Charles runs he's not here tonight, but you can find him on our Patreon page. It's only two dollars, yeah, two dollars a month, and you can become a patron it's it's it's a great bargain. You can also make a one time donation to PayPal on any amount that you want. You can find all those links at Trek Talking dot com. So please do we appreciate it. On tonight's show, we will not be talking to Alex Deeal from Star Trek for card unfortunately, so I got to skip over that.

4:37 But we do have our fans shout outs as usual. That's when we get to go around the globe and thank fans just like you for being a fan of our show. We also have our Star Trek polls. Did Lawaxana Troy Harass odo dun dunt dunt dum? I wonder what the minions thought? Didn't has? I mean, I think that's question. That's true. We didn't share ass definitely, and did Lieutenant Georgio Douceur roue wrongly? I don't know. I'll have to wait and see at what Star Trek actor do you share a birthday with? Find out in our Star Trek Birthday section and what's going on around the Star Trek universe. Michelle Nicols, Space Camp, upcoming IDW comic books, and Eric's favorite segment Chattner says, what so that and so much more to on tonight's podcast. You definitely want to stick around. It's going to be interesting.

5:34 So what do you say we move in to do some fan shout outs? How does that sound? Well? All right, and we're going to have Eric start off with our fans shout outs. Take it away, Eric, Well, Jim. We always appreciate all of the people who support our podcast from all the four corners of the globe, far and wide, north and south, east and west. We're gonna spin that globe and start out all the way down in South Africa and say hello and welcome this week to no Ferraz. Duno Ferraz. We really appreciate your support down in that country, down at the tip of that continent, and hopefully you're listening right now and hearing your name. Don't forget folks. You can leave us a message on our website or send Jim a little im message and get your name right on the air, no problem, Like Nuno Ferraz, thanks so much for listening to us. Also saying hello this week to Jonathan Kevin Londe who's saying hello to us from Germany, sending us Many a flag though I see a union Jack, I see a German flag and I see that old livelong and prosper emoji.

6:38 I will say peace and long life to you, Jonathan. Thank you so much for saying hello to us. Also spinning that globe just a little bit north and west of Germany, and saying hello this week to Leonora Holland Hale from the amazing country of Denmark. I am currently planning a trip that includes Denmark. I can't wait to go to your country for the first time in my life. Leonora. It looks pretty cool and I have so many reasons. That go there. You probably have a lot of reasons you live there. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. And last but not least, just a little bit to the west, gonna say hello this week to Liz Ballard, who's saying hello to us from Scotland, maybe the Highlands, maybe not, I don't know, but Liz is also listening to our podcast and we say coplaw to you. Charles is not here, so David, who would you like to say hello to you this week?

7:29 Yeah, I would like to say hello, and thanks for listening to Tom. David Chin from Ohio again, hello, and thank you for listening to Luke Besh from Arkinshaw, and next on my list is thank you, Thank you listening to Max Lockwood from Michigan. And last on my list, thank you and welcome to Jason hit from Tennessee giving us that long and prosperous symbol V. Would you like to show you load to anybody? Yes? I sure would. Hello to j Stewart who's in Colorado.

8:10 Thank you for listening, Jay got Dan Marinucci in Canfield, Ohio. Thank you, Sharon Diane Hurts out of Saskatoon, Canada, our neighbors to the north. We stand with you and certainly laugh but not Lee Sandor Boda from Florida. Thank you all for listening. That's where Paul jumps in. This is the part where you handed off to. Wait for business production. Prepare myself more pancake makeup. I'm ready now Aska. That is one of the haw. Why is there not a starship named the USS There should really because you just want to say it over and over again.

9:09 Right, they have the California class, they need to have the Canada class ships. And that we could go like or Lieutenant Commander Saskatoon, or it could be an area on the ship. Listen after you get off duty, meet me in the Saskatoon. I know. It's even better than the Hohla Deck right. Anyhow, I'm just pro Saskatoon and I just want. To get that out. So let's reach out to some other fans on other parts of this oh so United globe wherein we reside. First of all, let's go over to Hungary country. We're not exactly trying to emulate, but it seems like we might be. But I'm sure there's a lot of really good things there too, especially Star Trek fans like the Great Tamas East in Hungary.

9:56 There. I'm not sure where you reside, my friend, but I'm sure you are doing your best, and whenever you can probably checking out the latest Star Trek. And we have a lot of latest upcoming Star Trek to talk about today, Tummas, so look forward to hearing that from us. So thanks for reaching out. It's great to hear from you there many continents away on the other hemisphere. Let us go to Neroi. We're using our brazil Tonzago Filho, who is waving to us and unfurling that Brazilian flag. It's just NonStop, Marty gra We will live, my friend, and it is wonderful to hear from you great and it's just nice knowing that in the the Latin part of the universe, the stuff truck is thriving. So I love to see that.

10:45 We are just going to get whiplash because we're going from one continent to the other in no discernible order whatsoever, so crossing time zones and longitudinal planes with equal a plum. We're going to see our friend Dave malin in Ui Hellai and North Wales, who Dave looks very happy, judging from the emotion the emotional emoji he's sending to is here today. But Welsh is a challenging language and pronunciation is not for the feint of heart, so I don't know if I'm saying correctly. I'm sure I'll be told later if I did not. But anyhow, Wales is a great thing and quite a bit of doctor who takes place in Wales and seems to get shot up there.

11:27 From what I understand, or at least I did at one time, I could be out of date. That's okay, that was. Wow. I'm not very good at it. So eerily lifelike. I thought maybe we had a technical malfunction. It would be freaking out. I thought somebody was trying to trying to make the warp sounds of the ship. No, it's more like, no, that's it. I think it's more like anyhow. See, this is what our exposure to Wales will. Do to you. Exposure to whales will make you crazy or a little giddy.

12:07 And that's kind of how we'd like to roll on Truk dogging and beyond. Let's not forget that. And one more fan here. I want to make sure to acknowledge our good friend in Iran, and I want to wish you all the absolute best. And that is too Farshid, our Dobby Lee, Farshie, Farshid, I just cannot tell you how great it is to hear from you. And Farshid has watched Star Trek the original series from childhood and has continued watching every series in all the films too. That is a fan is loved, loved and always will love Star Trek. One tracky lifelong truckie, more hearts and Bulkan peace signs and I can possibly count. So I just think, Farshid, you live in a challenging part of the universe, and one that does not get nearly the degree of respect that you should. So I just want to wish all you and your comrades and that part of the world peace and happiness and safety. Okay, So I just wanted to make sure to get that out.

13:08 So I just it's one of the reasons I think that we love to focus on our international fans, just because it's a great reminder that in these tumultuous times, we always have more things in common that unite us than we do things that we differ on that might divide us. So I think it's important to keep that in mind. So it's great to hear from you. Keep listening, keep interacting, and keep your love for Star Trek alive. And I will go ahead and ask my bullhorn of craziness over to that battle wielding madman, that truck talking enthusiast part excellence, that out of control Vermontonian. I that that flashlight wielding serial gobbler, that that uncontrolled wrangler that we like to call Uncle Jim.

14:01 I thank you, Paul, thank you. So I'm going to bring this back to the US here for you guys, Shocker. We want to say hello and thank you to Bruce Bolan, who's listening to us in Boston, Massachusetts. Thank you, Ritzs Go Red Sox. And we also want to say thank you to Stephanie Rodgers who's listening to us in Texas. And let's not forget Todd Prost who says he's from western North Carolina and the Appalachian Mountains. That's awesome. Last, but not least, we want to say hello and thank you to Randall Cornington who's listening to us in New Joys, Joys, Joys, Joys.

14:41 And if you guys look up on the screen right here, there's me with a stormtrooper. There's all kinds of nice there. We are running in Me and my wife running into Michael Myers on an elevator and he told out his knife. Yeah, isn't that the Michael mask came from a Shatner mask? Is that true? That is very true. That's hilarious. Oh my gosh, that. Is very, very very true. Yeah, they needed a mask. They ran down to the store and all they had was a shelf full of Shatners. What a shock. So they bought one. They cut the eyes out, spray painted at white and there you go, threw it on him and said, okay, go go kill people is a.

15:26 Shell full of Shatner's like a fist full of datas. It's very similar. And if you notice that. When he goes to kill people, he walks in slow motion, very deliberately, like William Shatner does. And he actually like Shatner if he was a mass murderer. So that is true. That is very, very very true. Some people are shocked to hear that, or they don't believe it, but it is true. So if you look up on the screen, you see all these awesome pictures there. There's me meeting Eric for the first time at trek connor Roga and he's he's handling my bat left. There's the proof that he touched it. It's got it. And there's there's Zombie Hemmer.

16:11 We talked to him on the podcast. So you guys can go over to truck Talking dot com. There's a little blue talkback Mike. You can leave us a message there. You can go to our Facebook page look for the Livelong and prosper which is into the top of page. Tell us where you're listening from, leave some emojis, send us a picture like that awesome one of me and my daughter. You guys will see your picture up on this screen right here, and you will hear your name immortalized throughout all of time as a Star Trek fan. So please go and do that and we'll see your picture right up there. All right. So we've done that, We've done that. I gotta do this and do this. Okay, it is time for our Star Trek polls.

17:01 Lin lin Linen, you know me like no Wind, what you thought about the show, then we try just share your opinions with all of our minions out there because they listen worldwid. So tell us just what you think. Get together we will alter Canar and robbylin A. So Eric, David and I were talking last week, well the other day when we were testing this echo echo echo thing that we need to come up with a polling song video, and what popped in my mind was, do you remember the cowboy dude from the episode Neutral Zone of TNG when he wanted to go get some low miles poon dogs for data?

17:53 Yeah? Sure, I'm thinking I could just picture him sitting there plucking on his guitar. That so I want to try to incorporate him into a video that we could play. Uh. David and I got to work on it. But a So this is the part of the show, guys where we do our Star Trek polls and every week on our Facebook page, I try to come up with interesting, ethical, you know, polls that make you think very deep and look inside of yourself and you know, you know, good stuff like that. Sometimes something stupid like Riker's beard. You never know what you're gonna find, but you got to go over to our Facebook page to find him. And we ask you, guys, our minions, what you think about it. So, David, what is this week's toll number one? If you would roll the video? The video?

18:49 Ah, there you are. Oh though, have you ever been on the fourth game to Dawn? I can't say I have. I have the most wonderful Hall of program, and I preserved a sweet forest with that Quark person. You told Quark that you were going into a hollow suite with me. Of course he's preparing a special. Picnic basket for us. Good lord, I'm afraid I'm not available. I have to get to upper Pilon three immediately, not an ambassador. Ah, whatsana upper Pilon three. I've always wanted to see an upper pylon. I know I'll have Quarks and one of his minions with our basket. We'll have our picnic up there.

19:30 Madam Ambassador, Oh whatsana? I don't eat. This is not a real mouth. It is an approximation of one. I do not have an esophagus, or a stomach or a digestive system. I am not like you. Every sixteen hours I turn into a liquid had swim. Computer that odor to WOPS. Go ahead, ODO, And that's a Detroit And I are stuck in turbolift seven. What's going on?

20:10 Power to the pile on turble lifts has failed? Reading a turbo lift failure, ODO. Will beat you well? Looking on prepared to transport, ready, energizing. Well, looks like the transporters down too. But don't worry, Constable, we'll get it repaired right away. Dexter Chief O'Brien, please report to OPS immediately. If you patient, ODO, we'll get you out of there as soon as we. Can alone at last.

21:00 Boy, he's a pretty lucky guy. Huh. I feel like that's the that's the moment when you hear like the Quincy Jones kick in is like. But oh yeah, and the music it was a little serious for the for the stick, right I mean it's kind of like style, right, really, it's just like the plays very dramatic, like, oh. Right, what is the pole question now that we saw the video? What well, I'll tell you what the pole question is, Jim. And then I have some comments about Odo. So in the Deep Space nine episode The Forsaken Waxana is shown persistently pursuing Odo, a shape shifter, despite his rejection. She is shown to be flirtatious and assertive. Do you consider her actions slash behavior to be sexual harassment? It say solid question? Seventy percent of our pole responders said yes, it is sexual harassment, and thirty percent of our poll responders said no, it is not sexual harassment. It's definitely harassment. Now, I mean, it's clear that they did it for the comedic effect, right because she's so darn persistent, and I think it works like from a writing standpoint and that kind of stuff, because you know, that's her personality, that's the type of person she is. Would that type of behavior fly in like the average American workplace these days?

22:33 Absolutely not? So, you know, is it harassment? Yeah? Maybe what is TV harassment? So it's a little bit different than the real thing. So do you agree with the minions? Well, I have to agree that I do think it is harassment. Yes, I still think it's hilarious and it works because it's a TV show. But yeah, like I said, in real life, that type of thing wouldn't fly. But I enjoy watching Locksana do pretty much everything she does. Well, how about you v Yeah, well, I think I replied on the pole and it's like, initially, yes, she is harassing him, but like Eric said, that's part of her outrageousness if you've seen her, you know, in any of the like the TNNG episodes where he gets between Wharf and Alexander when Alexander is is little and but the thing is that well, the one funny part and it's a little bit later in the turbo lift where she asked Oda what he's I think something to the effect of what he's doing, and he's he's wondering if that open conduit is live or something, or how much water chit has. So it's like he wants to like zap himself or just I don't know. But as the scene goes on and he confesses that he's never you know,

24:05 done his uh the regeneration thing where he turns into liquid. He's never It's a very private thing for him, and he's trying to hold on and he's like all miserable and gum hey, looking like he is. And then you see her hand him that wig and she confesses she's you know that, you know, he asked, why do you have to wear this? As well? I've never been ordinary? And that's when she drops her guard and you see the real Laxna and then she you know, holds holds him in her skirt. Well, he turns into his liquid form, and then after that they are They are friends, as we'll see from that episode where she is escaping her creepy husband who wants to keep their baby.

24:54 So yeah, I think you're right V that they took that situation and they turned it into actually actually a really great moment right there where Loaxana opens up and they both learned something about each other. And when it comes right down to it, that's what Star Trek's all about. Yep, in my opinion. But up to that point, yeah, she was harassing him, for sure, she was following, and. The other you know, the other thing I just realized in that scene is that he never says like please, stop. He's never like no, you know, not that that is necessary to like stop it, but like that's definitely he's just trying the avoidance tactic and that, you know, it's not maybe it could be construed that if that's not clear rejection of her advances.

25:44 Yeah, he's trying to be polite, is what he is, trying to be polite. Yeah. And also I just remember too that he tells her about how when he was still part of the what was it in the lab or whatever, and he used to be used for entertainment at the Cardassian parties and that's that's all it was. And she said, I'll invite you to my party and you don't have to entertain anybody'll, you know, I'll make sure you have a good time. So that was really sweet too. Yeah, she's an interesting, interesting character for sure, But I have to go with the minions on this one. I think that she, even though it had a good ending and it turned out to be sweet and caring and emotional and whatnot, up to that point, she definitely was harassing him for sure.

26:36 What do you think, Paul, I disagree, Yeah, I don't think so. I mean harassment I think has a very onerous tenor to it. And I don't think she's doing anything other than just being very insistently like friendly, right and being really assertive. That's her personality. But does it qualify as harassments? Now? And she does, you know, and if you've take any kind of corporate harassment training, which I have many times, I mean again, he does not object to it at all. He just looks uncomfortable, right, because you could just be uncomfortable with her big personality. Right. So, and it's a TV show, right, I mean to me, it's just this seems like kind of a silly thing to even be. I mean, with you know, a lot of walks on it. It seems like we're putting a very serious question on a very you know, uh arch and and comedic trope. So I don't quite follow how that came to be. But no, I would say, no, she's she is not. I mean, she's walking up to the pet shop glass and pushing her nose up against the window. But is she tickling the puppies? No, she's not.

27:46 All right, what do you think, David, Yeah, I I don't think that she is harashling. I mean, this is Letrono Troy It's just's her character, right, this is how she is in TG, So she pesters everybody, even though we may she perceive it that way that she's pestering, it's just the way she is. So and if you have to also realize that she's supposed to be an alien, right, So aliens do they take harassment the same way we do? I don't know, but to me, I actually don't think that she's ho asking Odo. And if Odo didn't really want to be harrassed, why didn't he just shake shift into like something that he could have just flown away or something, you know, I mean, if he didn't really want her there, like everybody else was saying, you know, he didn't say stop, He didn't you know, push her away or anything. So I can't see it being harrassimate that much. I'm agoins dominions on each one.

28:46 All right, excellent, So there you have it. So are we ready to roll the next one? David, y'all cute up? Are ready to go? Yep? All right, I'm ready to go roll the tape. Why was it forbidden to keep their technology? Why did balance mean that we could not ask questions? I needed answers, so I sent out a message, hoping. There was someone out there to hear it. Hello.

29:27 I waited, not knowing if I would wait forever, not knowing if any answer would come too late for me.

30:22 It's a pleasure to finally put a face to the name, mister Saroon, an entirely new face of that, saying a Bram Saron gijus you doing not tell? Lulia was not certain you would come. If you come with me, everything you know will change. Will I be able to return one day to help my people? It was difficult enough for me to convince staff meet to make an exception for you. You cost quite a stirb. It's not every day we get a hello from a member of a pre warped society. There are many complicated rules that prevent me from doing more. I'm afraid that means you will never be able to come back home.

31:19 Are you prepared for that, mister saru. My place is no longer here. I saw a hoop in the stars. It was stronger than fear, and I went toward it.

32:13 Oh, there you have it. So what's the poll question? Eric? Hope you're on mute. I'm just you know, you guys could say something. I was on my other screen here all right. In the Star Trek episode Short Trek episode The Brightest Star, through being a member of a non warp capable society, builds a transmitter and sends a message. Lieutenant Georgio responds, taking him away to Starfleet. Did she make the right choice?

32:57 Eighty three percent of our responders said she absolutely made the right choice. Seventeen percent said no first and foremo oh, Paul, do you want to do you want to go first? I just think the question is confusing to me because she didn't make a choice. She gave the choice to Seru. Yeah, I think I think the spirit of the question is was it the correct thing to do for GEORGEO to provide the opportunity for Seru to look beyond his own planet based on his like searching of you know, asking the question is there somebody else out there? Which is amazing that, by the way, he was able to read the English that was sent back to him.

33:38 But. That aside, I think it was absolutely right for her to provide that opportunity. You know, she didn't come in and like land in the middle of the city square and like freak everybody out by the fact that aliens were, So she went to one person who had already reached out, and she gave him the out opportunity to to become something more. And I would hope that if I ever started sending messages out into space, some benevolent alien would come and grab me too and give me the opportunity to go check them out for a while. So we're with you. I'm totally absolutely everybody's welcome, uh, you know, based on whatever the aliens say. So yeah, I'm with the minions on this. It was absolutely the right decision. I don't see any I don't even see a prime directive violation here.

34:31 Well remember the episode of pen Pals when Data did the same thing with Sarzanka. Yep, same same basic story, the same thing, same thing, except Data got trouble. Yep, he did. Yet got trouble. Mm hmmm. So but apparently at this point in time they don't care. Yeah, and I think didn't. I can't remember was it was it, because that's when we had the infamous Doctor Pulaski, and I can't remember it was her that said Data, you did a good thing. But I think somebody did because he did. He saved her planet and they erased her memory so she wouldn't have remembered. And because they were a pre warped society as well, it was you know.

35:21 What that was? That was that was android discrimination right there. Well, do you remember we actually had a show about the episode pen Pals once and I had a big problem with him erasing her. Memory without Yeah, that's kind of. That was the part of that story that I just was really really uncomfortable with. Anytime you like take control of somebody's brain and you do something to it without their permission, that just this didn't work for me, And I think it was they didn't even ask her if she could you keep a secret or anything like that. They just went ahead and did it. But anyway, Va, I don't know if you've seen this, because you were saying maybe you haven't seen all the short tracks, but you should definitely watch this one. This one's a sweet story.

36:05 Yeah, I mean, I just watching it when I did just now that was the thing that I you know, sau, you know that that age old question, is there anybody out there even in you know, going back to the eighteenth century, you know where I live in work every day they were there was the thing about the plurality of worlds and looking to the heavens and saying, are we it is there? Who else is out there? In this case? He gets an answer and she tells him exactly, you know, you can't come back. This is it, and he does make the choice. So I think, you know, she she could have said, well, you don't have to come with me, but this is what's going to Well she did actually say that, but uh, this is what's going to happen, and he says yes, and so he goes and hopefully he's able to help his world somewhat.

37:03 So I think she she offered him the choice. That's the big thing to me. Yeah, and spoiler alert, she lied, Yeah, she lied. He does go. He does get back there at some point. Okay, I thought something else, but that. Was his sister. By the way, Uh, the Kelpian and Kelpians also mind kelp on their planet of Kelpia. So that was his sister that was standing there and saw the shuttle fly away. Forgot Sarana. I think that was her name. I can't remember. I think it was Sarana And she actually shows up later on uh season five of Discovery. Yeah, she shows up later anyway, So yeah, we see her again for sure?

37:56 What about it, Paul, did did did Georgio make the right show in taking Sharu away? Or should she have left them there? Well? Again, I think she left the choice with him, right. She she basically set the situation, right, said, well, we're contacting you, and we're like to give you an opportunity. Right. But but I don't think she really The only choice she made was was getting in touch with him the way I see it, right, was getting in touch with him and providing him the opportunity. It all rests on him though. He's the one who makes the choice in this situation, right. So it's like she's not mandating that because he contacted you know, other societies, that he has to do a thing. Right, So she's just basically saying, because of this, I'm introducing myself to you. You know.

38:41 It's it's you know, it's not like what you heard about like the Gary seven origin story where people were plucked away and whisked off to you know, be raised elsewhere. Right, So it's not like that. It's pretty benign, I would say. But I think, you know, I think if we're just talking about just you know, was she just giving the him the opportunity. The way she's describing it, it seems to me that it's probably more guideline driven and it's not her own personal choice. It's the feeling I get because she's at one point she says, there's a lot of complicated rules about what you can and can't do, so I think she's just kind of I got the feeling this was not the first time that that happened, but it was an unusual thing, and she was just sort of following whatever protocols start Flea has in place for those type of situations. I think she it's to me it's a it's a more benign, nobler aspect of of of Starfleet than we seem to see a lot more lately. But who watches the Watchers kind of reminds me of that situation too. From next January. It's like you kind of saying, Okay, well you kind of found out more than you might you know, we would like you to know. But as a result of that, we're going to show you other things just so you know, pretend that you haven't seen this stuff. We're going to explain it to you, and then you know, hopefully go on our way and no harm done. So I think more.

40:03 Akin with that. But it's an interesting sub origin story. I'm surprising. And you know, it says a lot about the character of Seru as well, because she's a lieutenant when she rescues him, or when she finds him, she doesn't actually rescue him, but when when she takes him away in the shuttle, she's a lieutenant. And next time we see them on Discovery, she's the captain and he's the lieutenant on her ship. And so and if I remember correctly, he speaks ninety three languages or something like that, so he's definitely brilliant. He's very smart, he's very advanced. So it speaks a lot for the character where he gets so quickly.

40:44 So now he's driven by curiosity. I mean that that's in line with who he is, right, That's why he sends a message in the first place. He wants he wants to know, He asks questions, he wants to find out, So it's appropriate. I think, like you're saying for his character that he would, you know, given that choice, given that opportunit unity, he would accept it because he's curious. He wants to know. You knowing there are the things out there. He wants to know what they are. So I think it's good, and off he goes, what about it, David? If Georgia wanded right now in your yard in Portland in a shuttle and said, Yo, dude, you want to come with me, what would you do call? You're like, hey, he wants a free tripted base. So there was some part of that episode that I uh could have added, and I didn't want it to be super long. But we have to remember that the Kalpians were not technically a free warp civilization. They met a pre warp civilization beforehand, which was a bou and they were enslaving them, taking their resources, and you uh.

41:55 The point point. In fact, I believe that the Bowel and the Kelpians are from the same. Plant, Okay, so that he had their own separate empire, separate from the planet of Camani. Maybe I'm misremembering. I thought they were from the same planet. Well maybe, but from what I remember that they were taking in the idea of like enslaving them or using them for resources or something, because I got Kalpians are really delicious, I guess I don't know, but but the thing is is that they were they knew about alien before uh Shu even because apparently that technology was a bau and so he turned it into a transmitter and they knew about alien life. And so that's probably why Georgia came in because they she realized what they baou were doing to the Kalpian. So in a way, is that technically still which the word, you know, disobeying the prime directives? Maybe, I don't know, but just the idea that he knew that there might have been life out there anyway because of this strange machine that was doing stuff to them that eventually in discovery they did find out that they were aliens hiding the shadow cliche as

43:26 you may call it, that you know, they were actually being driven off world possibly or transformed into some form of food. But I'm just wondering with that transmitter, I'm just glad that it had that many screens on it, Otherwise it would have said hell or Truda instead of Hello and today. So that's just a lotwer coincidence for that many screens review. But yeah, I don't know. This one's a little confusion to me. But I mean, with the whole prime directive, you don't interfere with pre work civilization.

44:07 Were they? I don't know. I mean, that's a little deeper dived than I cann't really think right now, But I don't know. I'm kind I'm kind of in between, to be honest, I'm not really worth it. So just to just to clarify it, to clear the muddied waters a little bit, the Kelpians were wiping out the Booul and then the Boule flipped the script on the Kelpians and enslaved them. It took over the planet, and much later in time, the Kelpians break loose from the bowel, and I'm assuming they become friends we and unify the planet. We don't know for sure, but I think it's a safe assumption that the babul and the Kelpians finally came to some type of agreement and stopped eating each other. I think so so they You know, You're right, David, They the Bible were a you know, a warp. They had space shifts. So yeah, all right, So there you have it, guys, any any comments before we move on.

45:17 Just so we know what am I playing next? I can prepare? Well, all right, why don't you roll the roll the Strange New Worlds video. All right, let me get that that. Get that ready. I guess we're going to talk about some strange new worlds right now? Great, there we go. All right? All right? Someone said space is dark and cold. Our job just to bring light, bring warmth, bring life to wherever we go. Is this a hidden situation? That's whatever kind of adventure we want it to be. This crew is a.

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46:48 We are going to find our way out of this together. It's one of those we get it done ray or don't. Blow ourselves up on the leave. I like those. We'll just turn it off before we blow up. Give me five now, down load? Why would you do that? Because you aren't too slow? All right, So there you have it, Strange New Worlds Thursday, July seventeenth, Paramount Plus And why are we showing that trailer For a couple of reasons. First, we're going to talk about it, but more importantly, the news dropped today that Paramount has renewed Star Trek Strange New Worlds for a season five six episodes and done. So that was the breaking news today and we're going to talk about it. So who wants to go first? What do you think about the trailer?

47:48 Eric? Yeah, So when I saw the trailer, I mean, it looks very action packed. You know, it's got the action music kind of in the background. It looks for exciting. It looks like there's gonna be some unique character interactions. They showed that budding romance there, so we'll see how that works out with Uhura. I mean, you know, one of the one of the downsides of Strange New Worlds is that you already know what happens after it, so we kind of know the romance isn't gonna work out, But I'm still interested in like seeing how it how it goes, you know, and seeing how they get there. I one wish or hope that I have for this season is that they continue to very sparingly use characters like Scottie and Kirk and those sort of folks, because this is not their show, you know, those are the those are the people who are gonna take over the ship.

48:52 But I like seeing the adventures of law On and Pike and and all of the characters that we've already established. And granted, I know there's already some crossover with like Uhura and that sort of stuff, but like generally speaking, I like the strange New World's characters, and so I hope that they limit just the amount of time that we spend with some of the characters from the classic series. But it looks very exciting. I'm definitely on board. It looks interesting. It looked like maybe there is at least one cool scene there with him, Benga. He's one of my favorite characters, and they've already explored his character a little bit in previous seasons. But I love his kind of cool relationship that he's got with not only Laan, but he's got a cool relationship with Una. He's even got like, in some ways kind of a cool relationship with Pike, although that one has been fleshed out just a little bit less than the other two. So yeah, generally speaking, the trailer didn't turn me off of anything.

49:51 I'm I'm definitely looking forward to this season. Zombie with Whips. Well, okay, so I mean the cliff I forgot that they were zombies. That is like the first trailer that sort of showed more zombie ish type stuff. Here they show the Klingon with the whip. I mean, who knows what that's going to be, right, that could be, that could be anything, so if anything, so it just like breathes like interest and curiosity. Uh, you know, I kind of want to know more, like what's up with the zombie Lingon with the whip? Is he like part FENGI or something? And his set Klingons costume, right, the one you're talking about, the one of the whip that we see, Yes, he's got that gold sash. I mean it is like exactly like the Klingons that we saw with our good friend Bruce Hoak when he was General Garkog the musical number, right, I mean, the exact same costumes. So it makes me wonder, you know, we have a little potential you know, reaction or I would just love it if, like even if we don't see him. Would love it if these are the men from General Garkogg's ship or something, just to just to keep that universe in there, because I think we've seen a ton of Klingons yet un strange in the worlds, and I think they would be welcome. And it doesn't matter if they look different, it doesn't matter if they're not slavishly married to Cannon, right, It's just it's fun and I think that's you know, that's what we're looking for, right.

51:16 And they do show the rear end of the Klingon battle cruiser there briefly, so you mean there's no doubt, there's no doubt that those are Klingons. Absolutely. That's sweet man, that's cool. I look forward to that. That'll be great. It could be it could be his ship very easily. If they start singing. Well, no, maybe maybe Brussels say hello to us. So are we gonna should I talk about the news that we got today now or should. Any any time? I want to where this is a free for. All, Okay, So then I guess I'll wrap up my my thing with with the news about this now being the last season upcoming season five of Strange New Worlds will be the last season. Six episodes is what they're going to give us. You know, we've kind of talked about this a little bit in the past when we've lost other shows, whether it was Discovery or whether it was Lower Decks that you know, the folks at Paramount are are driven by money and returns and that sort of stuff, and when they feel like they've kind of not burnt the candle down to a nub, but burned it down enough that it's no longer going to give sustaining light for a long period of time, that's when they're going to cancel the show. I think five seasons is very respectable. Why is it six episodes and not ten?

52:47 Who knows? You know, it's impossible to say. I definitely don't want to sound like I'm justifying the decision because I think this show could keep going for a little bit. But I think we also are using you know, Star Trek from the nineties and two thousands, eighties, nineties and two thousands as are as our president, and you know, those went seven seasons, twenty six episodes every single season, lots of duds in there, So you know, would you rather have six really kick ass hour and a half long episodes, or would you rather have, you know, twenty episodes where half of them aren't aren't so good and they're all exactly forty four minutes and thirty seconds long.

53:32 I'm the former, you know, I'd rather have like long, really cool movie style episodes that will keep us talking for an hour and a half on this on this podcast. So I'm disappointed that they're canceling it, obviously because it's a great show. But you know, it's a business decision, I'm sure, and I'm still looking forward to other stuff that we've got upcoming, whether it's Starfleet Academy, whether it's the Tony Newsome comedy show. You know, hopefully soon, maybe in the next year, So maybe they'll announce something that comes after those. I don't know. Well, now is as good a time as any to let you guys know. Paramount wants to turn this podcast into a TV series, So we are going to be the next show. Okay, so as.

54:17 Long as I'm in, and. It would be nice if but we're true. I wasn't supposed to tell you guys, but you know, Eric opened up the door and I had to throw it out there. I'm not going to get paid. But as far as making it only six episodes, you know, they have everything. We haven't seen season four yet obviously, and we definitely haven't seen six episodes of season five yet, but they have everything in place to make that transition into a TOSH reboot. Right. We have Scotty, we have a Whore. We haven't seen Bones yet. You know, we haven't seen Sulu, but you know we have Scotty there right now. We see in this trailer Kirk taking command of the ship, albeit briefly, and we don't know the situation.

55:24 So you know, maybe we're going to get six episodes of Strange New Worlds, and maybe they're going to turn that into a Discovery Season two that rolls right into the next series, which might be a TOS origins. That's not the right word, but you know, an early TOS show with these new tarans. Do you think do you think that that's what fans want? I don't care what fans want. I mean, fans don't know what they want. I mean what fans want is more you know, Berman era Star Trek. They want more Voyager, they want more TNG, they want more legacy, they want more of what they know. You know, they don't want something new, they don't want something different, and every time they get something new or different, they complain about it and hate on it. So you know, it's it's what's going to make paramount. The money is what it is.

56:21 And I think I think based on what JJ did with the reboot movies and the amount of money that they pulled in, well not so much, you know, Star Trek Beyond, but the other two, whether we liked them or not, they made them a lot of money. So if they wanted to roll strange new worlds into I don't even know what to call it, the Final Frontier, you know, with a younger cast, and you know, I would be down for that, go. For the double reboots. Had sorready been rebooted once? Why not rebooting? I would.

57:01 Star Trek the early voyages that could Yeah, exactly. Maybe was that was that yawn in real time? Or was that the sort of editorializing yacht that was editorializing? Okay, that's what I thought, just double checking, man, you know. Yeah, yeah, no, I just like I've had enough. I like it's not I mean, we had three great seasons, we had six movies, like the first season of TG is basically reboot of TLS in a lot of ways. So I don't know, I've had enough of the DOS crew, man, I want some different stuff.

57:41 Yeah. I can imagine them doing a reboot though, with his new cast and doing stuff differently that they would have had done back in the sixties that they you know, that they can do now so technically technology today. Just back in the sixties, you know, they could have gone really fun with all that. But I'm actually looking forward to a reboot of The Few I should be honest, I'm excited to see what kind of new stories they could come up with, and they don't have to repeat every single episode of the sixties show. I mean, you know, new fresh stories might come in show. It'd be kind of interesting to see. If indeed that's their plan. I mean, I'm just you know, blowing smoke out of my ass. Maybe that's not the case, you know, maybe it's not. It just seems to me if you think back to Discovery season two, they spent a lot of time with Pike Spot and Number One.

58:37 Then we had the short Trucks with them and boom, we got strange new worlds. So, you know, Paramount which were. Characters that were that were just getting to know. Right in Discovery, we're just getting to know them, and so that warranted strange new worlds. That warranted like several seasons of Okay, now we're going to actually explore Pike because before all we had was the cage. Wow. Yeah, well also true. You remember when those characters showed up on Discovery for the first time. I don't know if you guys remember, but fan appetite was rabbit. They got a really enthusiastic response to that. Back in Charge again. I know that it's that I don't know that it's not black and white. I think the nostalgia factor was huge, right as people love the they love the the nostalgia aspect is this like, let's you know, while it may be tired in some ways, we're talking one of the most iconic television depictions of all time, you know, period.

59:37 I mean, it's just beloved and you know, and a lot of retired boomers right who love that show. They and their kids, they were very excited what they saw. They loved ants in Mount Okay and the idea of seeing Pike more of that and discovering more of who we I think it goes beyond. You know, oh he's white, let's go there. And I really don't think it's that simple, right. I think it was just like we're delving into the past and getting you know, like when you find out like in comics, right, you get the secret origins of the characters you love that you never really knew before. Here was a chance to get a whole bunch of secret origin stories about the early days of the Enterprise. I think we were super excited. They got a huge response, and I think Paramount was like, we've better make this into a series, you know. I think they signed everybody contingently to be on Discovery. Right. It was just like, if this takes off, we'll give you a go, right.

1:00:28 And I think it took off like crazy, right. I guess it's the same things happening, like Uncle Jim is saying with like, why write Scottie into this show if that's you know, not part of the endgame? Right that they're they're waiting to see how it goes. I'm not so worried about them being just six episodes for the last season, because I'm sure they're going to super size them. You know. That's a lot of times with streamers now, it's what they do. They have a smaller number of episodes, but they're bigger and more epic, and it kind of works in their favor to turn it into like an event. Right if you have, you know, lesser episodes, fewer episodes, excuse me, I think the hunger for it. If you're delivering the goods and you're getting a real serious adventure every week, it ends up, you know, driving more interest and creating a bigger thing. And certainly they would need that momentum to launch any kind of a reboot. But my guess is Uncle Jim's right, that's probably where they are going. And I'm I'm certainly intrigued at the prospect.

1:01:25 I mean, initially I was not a big Paul Wesley. Yeah, yeah, right, listenly I wasn't. I think, like a lot of fans, I wasn't so hot on his take of Kirk. But I really think he's made huge strides, you know, and like, you know, you compare what's going on with Spock now to how Spock was in the first season. You know, he admitted he was a little wooden at first, right, finding the character in real time, and I think you see them doing that and being candid about it. So I'd be curious to see what they do. Yeah, you also have to remember that strange New world didn't come about and until the fan pretty much, you know, like what Paul Shane, the fan Bange was huge, and so if it wasn't for that during your world wouldn't have been made at all.

1:02:11 Well, let's not forget the biggest, the best part, and the the ultimate goal of it would be to bring back Cybock. Why else would you do it? Right? Right? Eric? I mean they tease. Did you see that one article I put up this week, Gym, the one that I did? It sounds like you might be getting. You Well, I think that they teased us what Cybox? I mean they did, and that whole Cybox story is a really fascinating did you see how I did that very fascinating part of Spock's family history that we know very little about. So you know, I could see them doing a reboot and taking it in a different direction than people think it's going to go, you know, and really what do we know about with horror? I mean she sat on the bridge and open haling frequencies. I mean, you know, it'd be great to actually see that character thrive and and become a you know, a part of the crew. Well, we're seeing it on Strange New Worlds, but more than what we saw it on TOS. I think that's I think that's what they're gonna do. I might be wrong. I went wrong before my wife can come in and tell you how many times I'm wrong, But it's just my guess. You know, what do you think, David, they did?

1:03:37 What if they did episodes of the TS reboot as like filler points from what the original series did, because not every episode in the original series would back to back, So what if they did like in between telling a story and then like T's like at the very end of the reboot episode that might go into a TSOOS episode. So I don't know, realize how much time we're going to spend talking about fans who bitch about the cannon not exactly lining up. We know that that's exactly what the fans would do in this. Well, you know what they need to do, Eric, They need to redo Arena and have have Kirk fight a modern Gorn the actually move that he doesn't slap in the ear, you know, and and let's see it let's see it.

1:04:24 Actually, I literally have negative interest in that happens. I might come to my television. I would come through my television and stop it. Absolutely not. It's just like you know what I mean, I mean, I think that they've got latitude, right, I mean, and you know, it's like you can't really talk about It's like if you're talking about strange in the worlds, it's hard to there's more than one flavor of ice cream. There's like three or four different kinds of episodes that they do right, and they have done a really good job of navigating them really well. They'll be you know, a hardcore action adventure episode like we're seeing with the Gorn right those, you'll see the more philosophical types of episodes like you would see with that whole of Bengo War flashback episode that we had a little while ago. And incredibly, they are able to navigate broad comedy, I mean really broad comedy and have done it pretty successfully right, and this should be using really playing up the comedy in their marketing.

1:05:31 Like in this trailer, it is full of comedic moments right when they're to hold too slow nonsense. I mean, you know, it's just but it's just like, but there, you know, that's been part of the problem. I think that they've faced it fair amount. Right, It's just like this, this perception the Star Trek is stodgy and boring and nerdy and inaccessible, right, I mean it really is. It's not nearly the fun factor amongst the common man on the street is not nearly as high a recognition associative as it is of Star Wars, right, And I think they're trying to change that by marketing appropriately and and and expand their audience and get younger folks to tune in, say, this looks like a good show and looks like fun. So I think it's good that they're they're marketing with a little more emphasis on that. So I'm super curious to see what they think.

1:06:16 And they are doing that that YouTube only Star Trek shows, uh Starfleet Scouts that we talked about a couple of weeks ago, which is going to be aimed at at younger audiences. Well, I don't even think I remember that I were on the on the show that. You might not have been that was it's aimed at like real young kids, like younger than prodigy age kids. So like the young Jedi thing they do on Disney Plus or Animates. Starfleet Scouts. What was it ten or twelve minute episodes Eric, something like that. Yep, this is the first time hearing of that, and they're going to put it.

1:06:59 It's going to be a you Tube thing. No, not yet. Well, you know, it's just a young young viewers last they like to watch. Dolevis, so they're going to put it on YouTube. You have been awful quiet through this whole conversation, so well I'm going to hand the microphone you take it away. Yeah, now, y'all have been talking. I've just been listening. My mind has gone to another galaxy and come back. But I was just I was thinking, like the t us Gorn for some reason, reminds me of Reptor in Rugrats.

1:07:40 I don't know if anybody ever watched that with their kids, but yeah, so the Gorn got turned into Reptar. I just don't want any more. Having been watching DS nine is the thing I'm obsessed with right now and just watching it over and over on Pluto TV, and it's like, please, for the love of God, do not do any mirror universes where everybody is the opposite of what they normally are, and they're wearing like the what I call the space kink stuff, you know. Then oh yeah, a giant giant forklift of Discovery.

1:08:26 Gee okay, yeah, now because. I haven't well, giant swath of camp. Oh geez okay, well, I mean I'm open to watching it, but it's just when I was on the different Facebook pages that are Star Trek related, there's been so much, so many people just saying all sorts of negative things about Discovery, so but strange new worlds. I definitely of what little I've seen of it, I like, I don't know if they'll give us another singing episode, but just please not a not a mirror universe. Only if it's going to be where you know, they've got the crossover between lower decks because that was fun, but I doubt they're going to do that. But other than that, or I was going to say, with the with the reboot of any t O S, you could do like d S nine did with Trials and Tribulations. You could have the old the original episodes and you could uh put in the whole new one the new people, you know, like they did with that, because that was for having been done in the nineties.

1:09:36 Like it was. That was really good. You know where the d S nine crew goes back to find what's his name, Darvin? Yeah, episode, Yeah it is. It's great. The same actor portrayed, you know, he was the same one that was in the original series. That's where I learned that Cardassians like to drink fish juice ka hot fish juice. Who Yeah, and Quark has a whole warehouse full of it that he's never going to be able to unload. Another bitto again, is that? What is that? What yamick sauce is?

1:10:17 Is it? Is? It is that the fish juice. I always wonder what yamic sauce was. I thought that was something different. I think I don't think they ever describe what Yamack sauce. Exactly, just like they never tell you what the Krdassian neck trick is all. About, or what a seal seals to make. I love those inside cookes. That was great. Well, I think the name of those titles for themselves. So yeah, so we'll have to wait and see what they give us, right, That's all we can do. We know we have ten episodes of Strange New World starting on July seventeenth, we have another ten coming sometime in six, and then we'll have season one of Starfleet Academy. Then we'll have the final five episode six episodes of season five of Strange New Worlds, presumably following that up with season two of Starfleet Academy, putting us into twenty twenty six early twenty twenty seven, and maybe this Tawny Newsome show will materialize at some point. And we still have the YouTube Starfleet Scouts to look out for, so you know, there might be Star Trek in the pipes that we don't know about yet that they haven't told us about, you know.

1:11:38 Okay, I got a question for everybody. Yes, they're making a triple series, David, what. If you could think of any kind of Star Trek serie from any character that you've changed so far? What SERI would you really want them to make? They need to make a clingon series based on this Yea. From Lower Decks with the Blood Wine. Absolutely, I. Personally think that they missed the boat like Major Major with Star Trek Enterprise. Everybody wanted to see the formation of the Enterprise. Everybody wanted to see Schran, They wanted to see the Federation actually formed, not in some holid deck recreation with Troy and Reiker, none of that crap.

1:12:28 People wanted to see it really happened, see how it happened. And they canceled the show right before it got there, and I think that people still are interested in seeing that. So if they were going to do something like that, I would love to see the formation of the Federation how it happened from ground zero, you know, I would like to see that. I think Enterprise was moving towards it and had all the pieces on the table to do it, and then they didn't. They decided to do temporal cold Wars and Zigbi's and Delfi expanses and god knows all what else and never really made the field goal that they had there. So that's what I would like to see.

1:13:14 Cool, what about your ck? Like I said the two Brothers from No, I'm serious, I would. I mean, I think there's a lot of opportunity to bring a series that aren't Federation based series, So I would love to see like a Klingon based series. I'd love to see a sneaky Romulin based series where you actually have Romulin characters who are not just dirty and backhanded all the time, but maybe there's like one in there that like is working against the system or something. I mean, I think there's a lot, there's like vast opportunities there. I mean, that's what Star Wars is doing now, right, Like we finally like all Star Wars now doesn't have to have a Jedi in it.

1:13:54 For I think, yeah, I. Think they I think they should do more of that and Star Trek cool. What about you, Paul, Well, my deear it still I think that it seems like the biggest slam dunk is you know, the most entertaining part of Next Gen for me was that multiple episode articles. There's several seasons of the whole Klingon Civil War arc, right, that whole business there, and I think that it would be great. Is a lot of times the Klingons, it's they get so camped up and they're so exaggerated and you know, a little hyperbolic. I would like to see, you know, a show that is just set on Chronos that is, you know, and maybe it could be in a more distant era, but a show that's more adult in tone about the Klingons and all of the strife and more of a Game of Thrones political thing. Like if any is an any of you guys watching House of the Dragon, the most recent Georgia R Artin series like that, right, where there's a conspiracies and bad actors, not bad performer, but bad you know engineers and uh and and really get into the because Clingons. It's very political, right, their struggles, right, it's very medieval, it's very you know, conspiracies, a lot of vengeance and uh and you know a lot of you know, skullduggery, right, a lot of Saskatoon, so I think, but but more adult style, so it's not as you know,

1:15:26 wacky and you know, we're not you know, fighting every five minutes over drunken whatever some of that. But you know, but in a little bit more like you know, lean into your hard R kind of thing, right and give us an adult political Game of Thrones type of a Klingon show. I think that could be redefine it a little bit, don't be completely married to canon, right and create a more realistic history of the Klingon Empire that we've ever been given before, and make it badass. Make it badass. Right, That's a show I watch and like like the same thing that, like Eric said, you could do the same thing with the Ronolins, right, because they're kind of bad asses. Right. You could do like an eye Claudius, you know, like you know, the Roman Empire, but amongst the amongst the Romulans, right, and let us see versions of the Romulans. You know, they love, they raise children, they they have issues, they're hiding their their true feelings.

1:16:23 Right. There's all kinds of nonsense going on there, and it's a militaristic society, so there's a lot of stuff in there that would be really relevant to where we are right now. Yeah, I think that that's the kind of thing that you know, you can take an old trope, you know, like you've got the with you know, the TS characters, right, but give it a fresh coat of paint and make it more real and more interesting and and go a little deeper. I think could be. Okay, that's if they do reboot original series. That's what I hope they do. I mean, I think they'll still if these same showrunners, any of the Kurtzman gang are involved, they gonna still have the same style. You know. I would like to see some new people come in and take over for a while. Frankly, I think that The tone has been so similar across a lot of these shows right that they're all starting to look the same.

1:17:13 It's kind of what you had with like nineties era, right with you know, Burman era. It's like you look at Deep Space night might watch that Deep Space line episode or is that a next gen episode? Can't really tem you know, It's just there's no real, you know, stylistic differentientia. No one's really reaching hard enough. So I think they kind of phone it in a bit. So I would like to see some really hungry, fresh, ideally younger people coming in there and who love Star Trek but are willing to deepen and darken the mythos a bit. I think that would really be a recipe for success. So what about your v I want to see a baseball game between the Romulan and the Klingons.

1:17:57 I don't even think they'd picked the first pitch. They would just. But at some point you have to have a. Hollow version of of Renac saying it's a fake. The seventh didn't. Go, or have somebody in the stand saying God got your got your fresh guy. Yeah. For some reason, I keep getting this racial good uh remake kind of thing like getting her back toy of what happened when she went through that portal and what happened with the whole idea of.

1:18:44 You know, I'm. Assuming, okay my memory, did she actually die and going through the I can't really remember what they said. Now, implication is that she dies, yes, okay, so. Maybe that she sure was captured and became concubine. I mean it would put that in here. People love the Ambassador class, so it would be cool to have like the entertris of the Enterprise. See yeah, I can see that. See yeah, it'd be kind of an interesting series. I think that. I think that Paramount plus being a streamer, if we're comparing it to Star Wars, I think they have an opportunity to do a lot of different things. The question is are they open enough to do it?

1:19:28 You know, like, look at these these. We just gave Paramount plush a lot of ideas well. Well, they're listening to the podcast right now. No, but like you're talking about the Enterprise, see for instance, Uh, they could do a six episode mini series just you know, on Rachel Garrett and the Enterprise and what happened at Nerendri three. If people would watch that it doesn't have to be a long, you know, five season thing. It could be six and done like they did with Obi Wan and the Book of Boba Fat Well, we'll forget that one. But you know what I'm saying. You know, they could do these short, you know, six episode deals that focus on you know, historical parts like you know what I would like to see, Actually, I would like to see a Wolf three five nine type of a story because you know, all those ships that were slaughtered, all the people that were lost the I would like to see. You know, we've never actually seen that. We've heard about it from people like Captain Shaw and whatnot, and we know about the ships, but to get to know the people and see the people that were on those ships that were sent there, that went there to defend the Federation and didn't come back. I mean, there's so much they could do as short, six episode, many series type of things that it's endless, but they do it.

1:20:49 Thinking of Wolf was it I'm trying to remember now, what was it that was it in the movie or on one of the shows they have Wolf three five nine and apparently they snuck in the Millennium Falcon as one. Of the ships first contact. Was cont that's right, that's right, and I just I was just watching that. I should have remembered that's been running on Pluto too, that that was funny. Apparently did j j Abram. They had a floating two D two go by at. You guys are ready to do some Star Trek birthdays.

1:21:31 You're ready for some birthdays. There, let's see that was not all right, guys. This is the part of our show where we do our Star Trek birthdays and we all I would like to start out by remembering those members of our Star Trek family who, sadly enough, are no longer with us, and for that returned to Eric, take it away, Eric.

1:22:11 Yeah, Jim. This week we're going to remember eight members of our Star Trek community who have gone before us. The first is actress Joan Marshall. Joan Marshall is the actress who played Lieutenant A. Real Shaw in the TS first season episode Court Martiall. Marshall entered show business when she was hired as a show girl at Chicago's Say Perrie at the very young age of fourteen years old. Wow, and she began appearing in Las Vegas only two years later. She was definitely a talented gal. Made ten feature films, but she only liked a few of them herself. Eventually was signed by CBS and appeared on such television shows as The Jack Benny Program in The Red Skelton Hour.

1:22:57 She in fact had a real gift for comedy, which some people overlooked because she was considered quite a looker and they couldn't see past that. But in the nineteen seventies she did collaborate with her old school friend, the award winning writer Dirk Wayne Summers, co scripting several sitcoms. She married film director Hal Ashby, and over the first six months of their marriage and at his insistence, she related personal experiences of her life that eventually would become the nineteen seventy five movie Shampoo, And she was not very happy about her most details being put up on screen for everybody to see. So that's too bad. She did end up in Jamaica, which she fell in love with later in life, and unfortunately we lost her all the way back in nineteen ninety two at the young age of sixty one years old. So happy birthday this week to Joan Marshall. Happy birthday as well to actor Gary Graham, who we just lost a little over a year ago. He's the actor who played two roles on Star Trek, the Okampa Hannas in the Voyager second season episode Cold Fire, and the Vulcan ambassador so Vall on all four seasons of Star Trek Enterprise. Graham was actually once considered for the roles of both Benjamin Cisco and Captain Janeway, before the decision was made for Janeway to be female and for Cisco to be an African American.

1:24:21 Beyond the realm of Star Trek, He's probably best known, of course, for playing Detective Matthew Sikes in Alien Nation, one of Jim's favorite shows from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety, and its spinoff television movies which happened in the mid nineties. In twenty fourteen, Graham reprised his role as so Vall in the fan made short film Prelude to Axinar, which of course starred a whole bunch of other Star Trek people and changed the full naksand films not for the best. Gary was also in a band called the Sons of Kirk and if you never got to see The Sons of Kurk too, bad because they were awesome. He did have a quote that I like in particularly said, I'm one of those actors who's happy even when he's not working. I'm not a workaholic by any stretch of the imagination. My attitude has always been to have a life first and then to go do the work. And in fact, I actually got to hang out with Gary Graham a little bit once when we got to see the Star Trek the card premiere down in Las Vegas. He was one of a group and I stood in the same circle asked him a couple of questions. It was fun. Happy birthday to actor Gary Graham.

1:25:33 Happy birthday as well to Alan Scarfey, the British actor who appeared in two episodes of the Next Generation and in an episode of Voyager. He was the first actor who was cast and filmed scenes as the character Jabin. You might remember the you know those awesome aliens from Star Trek Voyager that we get off the bat there. The role was later recast to somebody else. But he's probably best known for his starring role as doctor Bradley Talmage on Seven Days, which I've never seen, but apparently he's well known for that. He was also had a memorable guest appearance in Sequest DSV, which is a show that I think many of us like from nineteen ninety three, and in fact, they made a playmate toy of this guy.

1:26:20 I don't know if you've got a doctor Ruben Zeller, not Paul, but apparently they mass produced that character from Sequest DSV. So Happy Birthday to Ellen Alan Scarfee, Happy birthday as well to Jesse Lawrence Ferguson, the actor who appeared as Lieutan in the Next Generation first season episode Code of Honor. Well, you know, we all have our opinions about that episode. This deep voice broke into show with a guest role on the popular television series starski Ann Hutch from Back in nineteen seventy nine. That same year, he landed his first film role in The Onion Field, which also starred Ronnie Cox. He appeared in lots of other movies along the way, mostly in the eighties, but he's most well known for. His most well known role occurred in the relative end of his career, when he played a dirty cop in the nineteen ninety one film Boys in the Hood. Happy Birthday to Jesse Lawrence Ferguson.

1:27:23 Happy Birthday to Bernie Terry Casey, who played Calvin Hudson in The Deep Space nine second season episodes The Mackie Parts one and Part two. He was not a Star Trek fan when he was cast as Hudson. In a nineteen ninety four interview, he said, I did the Maquis because I wanted to work with Avery Books, whom I admire as an actor. Before becoming an actor, of course, Casey was a track and field champion and a professional football player. He played for the National Football League San Francisco forty nine Ers from nineteen sixty one to nineteen sixty six and the Los Angeles Rams from sixty six to sixty eight. But the thing I really dig about this guy was he was a big old football player, but he was really an amazing, amazing painter. And in fact, he said if he could actually make a living painting, he would have given up football in a second. So I would. You can go check out some of his paintings online, which I encourage you to do. He was also a member of the Screen Actors Guild, where he worked in several positions for the union and was voted to serve as SAG National Board Alternate and to the Hollywood Division Board of Directors. Happy birthday to Bernie Terry Casey.

1:28:36 Happy birthday to James Darren, the actor, director, and stinger who played the holographic lounge singer Vic Fontaine in the sixth and seven seasons of Deep Space nine. Of course, he was a real life famous singer, Folks. If you didn't know that, you probably could have guessed it, because he's got quite the voice. After a short time taking acting less at the beginning of his career, he met Columbia Pictures talent agent Joyce Selznick, who gave him a seven year contract with Columbia, and later on he moved to Hollywood and started starring in films. Starred in nineteen Columbia Films. The following year, he took his stage name James Darren, which in fact came from the Kaiser Darren sports car. His original name is James William Ercolani. Several movies throughout the fifties, and in fact, this guy worked through the sixties, through the seventies, through the eighties, and through the nineties. After Deep Space nine he pretty much stopped acting though, so that was kind of the last and best that we ever saw of James Darren on screen.

1:29:47 We just lost him last September, not like less than a year ago, at age eighty eight years old. Happy birthday to James Darren. Happy birthday to Ed Bishop, who lent his voice to the animated series his first season episode The Magics of Megas two and as Modius. Born as George Victor Bishop in nineteen thirty two, he changed his name to Edward when he became a professional actor because there was already another George Bishop out there. He served in the Army in the early fifties and started his professional acting career in nineteen sixty one. He was based out of the UK for most of his career, and he's best known for his starring role as Commander Ed Straker on the British science fiction series UFO. He also provided the voice of Captain Blue in the series Captain Scarlett and the Mistyrons. I've never seen.

1:30:37 It, I don't know, mister Rons. Okay, there we go. Where I know Ed Bishop from other than Star Trek is of course. He appeared in one of my favorite movies of all time, nineteen sixty eight sci fi classic two thousand and one, A Space Odyssey with fellow TOS guest starred Carry Lockwood. So a happy Birthday to ed Bishop. And last, but not least, on our remembrance list, folks, we have actress Herda Where. She's the actress who played Yavette Picard in the Next Generation first season episode where No One Has Gone Before. She was a guitarist and a folk singer in the Washington, DC area and moved to New York and began acting in the early nineteen thirties. She was in fact blacklisted by Hollywood during the McCarthy ERAa for taking the Fifth Amendment and refusing to testify before the House on American Activities Committee, which would lead to financial hardship and unfortunately the loss of her home. Where's perhaps best known for her part as Rosie in nineteen eighty five's Cocoon. She AHFSA had a role in twenty ten speaking of Stanley Kruber movies as Jesse Bowman, astronaut Dave Bowman's mother Gear and where co founded the Will Gear Theatricum Botanicum on their Topanga Canyon property. The veteran actress published her own memoir called Fantastic Journey My Life with Will Gear in two thousand. We lost her to Wear back in two thousand and five at the ripe old age of eighty

1:32:09 eight years old. Happy birthday to her to to and that does it far? Rememberan says folks. So Paul, I'm going to quickly excuse me. Via is next ye, I'm going to pass this birthday candle over to. You, and if I can add, his name escapes me. But I just saw that the gentleman who portrayed Mariska in duet in DS nine passed away. Yeah, I think we may remember him next week. I noticed that okay, okay and her to Wear and Will Gear's daughter Ellen Gear was in TNG as doctor who's whatever her name I'm forgetting names the episode where that she kills who ends up killing the crystal crystalline entity.

1:32:59 So yeah, is that connection? Does that mean? All right? So let me get to my birthday? Rose s Portland, Oregon. Yeah, ballad a k A, that's the board jet Lion six station ashes to ask. Well if we don't get and then Alicia. And Bell, Jennifer Sisto alright, marriage Jennifer Cisco and Star Trek Okay face. Nine Okay, friends, thank you so much. Today's back.

1:33:40 Did we lost it there for a couple of n I'm having connection problems to lose me again? Yeah we did? We did? We need both your birthdays? Yeah? Sorry about that? All right? So v is going to do her birthdays? Yeah. Shoot, this is a live show. We never know what's going to happen, right, I've seen I've seen pets explode on this show at both ends. I mean, it's all right.

1:34:22 My WiFi was fine. Can you hear me? Now? Yeah? We can? We can't, ye am, I there're okay? Yeah, so did you did you? Okay for the moment, I don't know. I'm just having all sorts of issues with the Wi fi was fine and it's just been glitching out. So did you hear anything? I said? No, go to do your birthdays? Okay, all right, let's try this again. All right, Happy birthday. On the seventh of June ninth. All right, okay, okay, all. Right, Okay, here we go a couple of big ones here. It's exciting whenever we welcome somebody that's new to the Star Trek universe. And that is what we're doing. We are given this gentleman, massively deserved birthday props and we haven't even seen.

1:35:09 His role yet. His role is still mystery, but incredibly, I mean, this is a big get for Star Trek. This is a heck of a piece of casting the great Paul Giamatti, who's having a birthday. I don't have his birth date here, but he is going to be joining the up and coming Star Trek Starfleet Academy as the main antagonist being featured in the first season. It's a recurring role. Sounds like maybe a little bit of a sinister, villainous figure with the connection to one of the cadets in the Academy. We're not really sure, but I can tell you what I am sure about it is that Paul Giamatti is one of the greatest living actors that we have. My first picture I saw him in was a movie called Sideways back in two thousand and four, and it's a spectacular comic. He's just great. It plays a lot of challenging, difficult characters, but always with such poignancy and such emotion.

1:36:09 He's just amazing. A great picture called The Holdovers, and if you are a Netflix subscriber, you can see him in a really amazing episode of Black Mirror that just debuted a few weeks ago, so it's just in the most current season of that, but just spectacular performer. He's just the best, really really really great and always shows up just ready to go. The fact that he is going to be on a Star Trek show with Holly Hunter, right, this blows my mind. So a lot of heavy talent there, but mister Gimotti is just a delight God. I would just plot if we could get him on this show, that would be the mother of all gets. He's absolutely amazing.

1:36:54 So huge fan again, Paul Giamatti. Welcome to Star Trek and happy birthday. Speaking of classics and luminaries, it's a great pleasure to say happy birthday to delightful Adrian Barbeau. Okay, wow, Adrian barbou Yanes was on Star Trek. I think we forgot. She played Senator Cretac in the Deep Space nine seventh season episode inter Arma aam silent Liges right, which is a mouthful, to be sure, but a wonderful presence of course. I think the world fell in love with Adrian Barbeau in her early work in the John Carpenter films. Memorably, but way back in nineteen eighty one An Escape from New York right, and then, oh my god, what did they do? Right? And that picture holds up a like a you know, like a medieval castle. I mean, it's just amazing. It's such a good picture. And one of my favorite movies that she did was she played this jockey Stevie Wayne in also John Carpenter's amazing tribute to the films of Alfred Hitchcock The Fog. It's just spectacular, really really, yeah, those two John Carpenter movies. He was at the height of his powers, I think, or moving into the height of his powers. I don't know that he's ever slowed down, but uh and uh, and had good sense to have Adrian Barbo at his side during those early productions. But a huge fan of her work.

1:38:25 She does comedy as well, has done all kinds of great genre work and it's just a delight. So Adrian Barbo, it's great that you're in Star Trek, and happy birthday to you. So that's all I've got. I'm doing a little shorter run on my birthdays this week, but super excited to hear what Uncle Jim. Uncle Jim's got two serious heavy hitters on his list this week, big time. If we can get V back, if we have V back there, yeah, can. You hear me? Okay? Good? All right? Also, Adrian Barbo was all on Maud playing Maud's daughter. That was back in the seventies. I remember seeing herr in self Section show.

1:39:08 So and also in the X Files. All right, so let's say if I can befo while my internet is still on? All right? So, Happy birthday to Kim Rhodes and actress from Portland, Oregon born June seventh, nineteen sixty nine, who appeared in Voyagers in Ensign Lindsay Ballard aka the Kabbali Jetliah in the sixth season episode Ashes to Ashes, the one that Harry Kim had a crush on, and then Felicia M. Bell born on June twelfth, nineteen sixty played Jennifer Cisco in the Mirror Universe Jennifer Cisco and star Trek Vith nine. Happy birthday to all.

1:39:52 Thank you so much, feed We're glad we got you back. Me too, do the Klingons. But I guess you could say this next guy is yeah, he could be a Klingon. We want to say happy birthday to the incredible, the awesome, the talented, the often evil Jason Isaacs, who was born on June sixth, nineteen sixty three. He's the British actor who portrayed Captain Gabriel Lorca in their first season of Star Trek Discovery. My god, was he awesome. The remember how much fun we had talking about his character, trying to figure everything out about him. Just awesome. I remember meeting him at a Star Trek convention. I'm online there.

1:40:37 All the kids are waving wands around and dressed up in Harry Potter and there I am as a klingonly out of place. I had no idea that he was in Harry Potter. I only knew that he was in Star Trek. Great guy. Have you seen him on Jim? Have you seen him on White Lotuses? Ye? Yes, yes I did. I did see him on White Load. He's in like every episode and he just kills it. Edible, he really is. He was also in a movie that V was talking about a couple of weeks ago, The Patriot and Shock and Dismay. He's a bad guy. He plays great bad guys. So happy birthday to Jason Isaacs.

1:41:17 This next one I had the pleasure of meeting him at Trek Honnor Roga, and he was just great to talk to. We want to say Happy birthday to the incredibly talented, all over the spectrum guy Carl Urbin, who was born on June seventh, nineteen seventy two. He's a New Zealand actor who played doctor Leonard McCoy in Star Trek two thousand and nine, Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond. He's best known for his role as Billy Butcher and The Boys, im Ar and Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers, and of course he played Dread and a plethora of other movies. He's been the Marvel movies. He's been all over the place. Carl Urban.

1:42:03 I think he was perfectly cast as doctor McCoy on Star Trek. In fact, I can't see anybody but him playing McCoy. He does it, just nailed that role. He's perfect. So happy birthday to Carl. Oh and if you guys have never seen The Boys, Boimler is in it as well, and you'll get to hear Carl Urban talk and say things that McCoy would never say or do on Star Trek. It's a complete departure from what we know him as the boys. So happy birthday and I always saved the Klingons for last, and I have a Klingon here. We want to say a claw and happy birthday to Sherman Howard.

1:42:48 And there he is up on the screen. He was born in June eleventh, nineteen forty nine. He appeared as Endar and the TG four season episode Suddenly Human. Yes, Will appeared as savah Are in the DS nine thursdayson episode Shakhar. But I'm remembering him as playing to breath the kling On in the Star Trek Voyager seventh season episode Prophecy. And that, my friends, wraps up our Star Trek birthdays for this week. And now it's time to go into some Star Trek news. And do I have the clip for that? I thought I did. I don't. I lost our clip for Star Trek News. I don't know where it went.

1:43:33 I think that's okay, all right, all right, hit it, all right, it's time for our favorite segment. Shatner says, what William Shatner makes a planetary plead to Trump an Elon Musk make great again? LORDI legendary actor Walliam said, I read the title, and I'm like, oh my god. Legendary actor William Shatner wants President Trump to restore Pluto to greatness, as scientists claim to have found a new ninth planet. So there's a tenth planet that was found in our solar system. Star Trek's Captain Kirk ninety four wrote on X I suggest that we get Trump to name it, and while he is at it, restore Pluto as a planet and put an end to the Union's tyranny of the most through. The two time Emmy Award winner The Boston Legal Star then suggested his fans recruit ex owner Eli Musk to quote get the President to sign one of those executive thingies to make Pluto a planet again.

1:44:48 Cheers. Some repliers express doubt that the President of the United States had jurisdiction in matters of the stars, but Shatner suggested the final frontier of Trump's authority has yet to be explored. Say who he renamed Gulf and the astronomer who discovered Pluto was American. Seems like America has jurisdiction on things outside its borders, Shatner wrote, adding the expressionless emoji. The Rocketman's singer was riled by a new study that claimed to have discovered a far off, an entirely theoretical celestial body that some believe qualifies as the ninth planet in our dear Solar System. He slammed the corrupt nerds on a power trip at the International Astronomical Union who were exercising a quote tyranny of the cosmos, pretending to name any new planet discovered by scientists, and voting to demote Pluto in two thousand and six. Shatner believes they have no basis for their authority and could be trumped by the president. By the way, why do they need a union, Shatner asked on one of his ex threads.

1:45:58 It's not like anyone would care if they went on strike. Maybe it's to prevent bullying, you know. I just love that history on so many levels, and it just it's it reeks of Shatner. Is it the Is there a more Shatner story that we've told in the last like year or so than this one? This one is just so off the rails. I can't even. I just can't even. By the way, in case anybody's interested, Pluto's not a planet because it doesn't meet the third requirement for planet status set up by the International Astronomical Union in two thousand and six. To classify as a planet, an object must one orbit the Sun okay, check that, two be rounded by its own gravity check that, and three have cleared its orbital path of other objects. While Pluto meets the first two criteria, it resides in the Kuiper Belt, an area with many other icy bodies, meaning it hasn't gravitationally cleared its neighborhood.

1:46:58 So literally, wa, wait man, wait a minute, Mars in the middle of the asteroid belt. No, it's not. The asteroid occurs between Mars and Jupiter. It's not. It's close enough that it's No, you need to check your astronomy. It's not enough. Not even that was That was a two thousand and six argument. Dudes, that's nineteen years old. Has his own moon, so technically is not all the way out there with the other object. I don't like them red counting my Solar system. It's like every textbook I grew up with. Have you been angry about it for the last nineteen years, I've been angry. About a lot. Oh listen, if they if Trump can rename the Gulf of America. He can name a planet, right.

1:47:43 Oh my god, he's named it. He's gonna name it after the planet my god. But no, there's already a planet named your. That's the Trump planet. Well playing my friend. All right, Well, let's see if Paul can trump this article with his. It has been stewing in the back of my mind. I thought we should get this out of the way first, real quickly. I think Jim, maybe with a droit turn of phrase earlier, may have given what to me seems like something. It could be a name for the the first official Trek talking and beyond drink. Right, we just need to figure out what it what it should contain.

1:48:34 But when Jim said earlier in the show, a shelf full of shatters to me, I want to go to the bar and I want to order, I'd like a show full of shit, Just know what I mean? Right? So I think I think we need to work on that, and maybe our fans on the Facebook page help us come up with some ideas. But that's too good not to exploit. James, well done. And let's go over here into the world of comics because our good pals and Star Trek enthusiasts at IDW are giving us a first look at start Wow just kick in Red Shirts and Strange New Worlds both together, because Star Trek fans can get a look at what IDW Publishing has in store for new titles featuring both Red Shirts and more Strange New worlds. A new era of Star Trek Publishing is about to gear up. Two of the new limited series spinning out of Star Trek Omega, which is wrapping itself up shortly, are Star Trek Red Shirts and Star Trek Strange New Worlds. I feel like I've repeated that same sentence seventh, say it again, Star Trek.

1:49:43 Do you know that very soon we'll be talking about Star Trek Red Shirts and Star Trek Strange New Worlds? Well, it's Star. Trek Shirts and Star Trek Exchange New Worlds and. After one more show full of shatners, Okay, Strange New Worlds. The Seeds of Destruction launching in July and August, respectively, So that means Star Trek Red Shirts is July and Strange New World Seeds of Destruction is August, hence the respectively. This article, which I'm not able to show you because this is not this I'm reading from Frint. It says we have a first hand look at covers, but we don't because we're reading. The Red Shirts are the nameless individuals who are sadly used as cannon fodder in Star Trek stories, and the preview demonstrates this as we watch different ways killed off. Sounds great, right there. David's got some up there for us. Very nice, David, excellent. Those Patreon members, all three of you can now take a look at this. See as for Star Trek Strange New World Seeds of Destruction, we see Chapel Una, law On and gathered around a table as they have a tense discussion, and then travel alongside them as they travel around a strange new world. Startrek Redshirts was written by right Christopher Cantwell.

1:50:59 This Megan Livins, featuring a brand new team of characters. The Red Shirts are commonly knows Starfleet's fearless and doom crew members. Now these intrepident, ill fated, red uniformed individuals finally get their own story, and no one is safe who will survive their deadly mission. Star Trek Red Shirts is in honor of the nameless, vaporized and cinerited and otherwise blown apart? Are they the main characters of a Star Trek style suicide mission unlike any other kind of a suicide squad? Tepee Now I'm with you, Catwell said, we will get to know these ens lieutenants intimately before they are likewise this record and suck in the space. Who will survive and what will be left of them?

1:51:41 Will any of them? And what is the true nature of their planet side mission to hunt down mysterious spies? Will it be better than section thirty one the movie? This is a major melody Original Series era story in the Key of Death, one I wanted to tell for years, equal parts fun and harrowing, subversive and laboratory of the boldest tunic color one could wear in Starfleet Security. Right, I love it. I love it. It's great one. This is one that Paul sent me and I liked it, So we're gonna throw it up here. Star Trek Collectibles a new Batle pizza cutter and there it is, right there on the screen. What do you guys think about the flames that David put in the background?

1:52:24 Is that is that kling Honi? I thought it was a UK based raven Forge has announced a new Klingon Batlift pizza cutter, made from stainless steel, measuring an impressive seventeen point five inches that's forty four point five centimeters. Rereferencing the original next generation design for shaping, the Raven Forge design moves its handles to the inner curve and moves the blade to the outer curve to allow for a grip, inverting the on screen orientation as can be seen in the picture on the right. Introducing the officially licensed Startrek Batlet Pizza Cutter, an epic fusion of fandom and function. Designed in collaboration with Paramount, using only original drawings from nineteen ninety, This collector's piece is crafted to boldly go where no pizza cutter has gone before a shelf full of shatters. Inspired by the iconic Klingon, a weapon from Star Trek universe, the Batlet Pizza Cutter features a stainless steel blade honed for precision and ready for action.

1:53:34 Use it as a rocker blade to guide cleanly through your pizzas no drag toppings in dishonor just smooth slices of culinary glory. I must have for every Star Trek fans gallery stainless steel blade dishwasher safe plastic candles with leather looking grip food safe measures forty four centimeters by twenty five centimeters and you can have one for forty nine dollars. They're available now for order. And that, my friends, I think, Yeah, that's going to wrap up our show for tonight. So, Jim, have you. Getting a couple of them to wear on my cling on costume?

1:54:16 You need to get the pizza. If you don't get the pizza cutter, I'm not sure I can respect you anymore. Shatners. And we could, you know, let's get a we need a food thing. We can have people come up with the recipe what is cling on pizza? That people can make it home that and then we can have a I think we're moving into a. Show like the wine Tasting show. You know, Yeah, I'm liking you have to drive down to Virginia. Yeah, pizza cutting, quing on blind Shatner shelfing thing.

1:54:56 Words words. I think next week. Oh, by the way, I have reached out to Robin Curtis. You guys may remember we reviewed the AI, a movie fan film Thingyma bob Er called Unification on the show. Robin Curtis is going to be up in Tykona Roga showing that film on the bridge of the Enterprise and talking about it. I've reached out to her to see if she'd be willing to come on the podcast with us and talk about it, So I'll keep you guys in the loop and there's a pretty good chance that we'll be able to make that happen. So as soon as I hear back from her, I'll let you know when she'll be on. So there's that. Next week we're going to be doing lower decks. We're going to continue our comic corner so that I o't to make the happy I believe it's issue six and seven, am I correct? Yeah, Episode six and seven. And then because Paul brought this up and I thought this was a great idea, we are going to do a Space nineteen ninety nine show after that, and.

1:56:00 To keep just finish episode five. Things very simple. Because it was two seasons, forty eight episodes. I'm recommending that all the truck Sperts watched Breakaway, which is the season one premiere pilot episode, and we will focus on talking about that episode in particular. However, season two changes drastically from season one. There's a lot of changes, a lot of new characters, some things. So I plan on talking about the entire series, but I want to talk a lot about episode one. That way all of us will be on the same page and we can spread out to talk about, you know, the tunnels under the Moon whatever.

1:56:46 We recommend two other episodes just for interested parties. It's just like if you had to only pick three from the entire series. Breakaway of course, which is great, but one is called Voyager's Return, which is excellent, like great side fi, really really good. And for my money, what is one of the most disturbing and scary science fiction shows I ever saw as a kid growing up. Dragon's Domain. It will freak you out. It's very disturbing and incredibly Is. That the episode that has Brian Blessed bolt Hand from Flash Gordon in it? No, that one was a little earlier in season one. I think the Ultimate Thuley episode. I'm trying to remember what the title of the episode was, but that's a really good one too. It's really I can't remember the name of it, but it was a really good.

1:57:33 I don't remember all So we're going to have something. Yeah, because Brian Blessed then came back in season two and he was like Maya as well the wor right, yeah yeah in the second the second performance in the season two he did yeah, but he had he played another role. It was even better in season one. So yeah, but it's a fun show. A lot of people uh never watched it and missed out, but if you grew up with it, it's it's super fun and a bit of a train rack at time, but but man, it's it's gonna be fun to talk about. So I'll put some a list together for folks, and and. Yeah, we're gonna go We're gonna go beyond. We're gonna go beyond Star Trek to Space nineteen ninety nine. So those are the next two shows. And I'm I'm emailing Alex Deal to see if we can reschedule to get him back on a future show. So that, my friends, wraps up the whole show for this week. So I just want to take an opportunity to say thank you to to V for hanging out and trek talking with us tonight. Thank you so much for be okay, and thank you so much. Her face, I'm like, I can't.

1:58:44 Know she's got when you need. It, So thank you so much for hanging out, Trek talking there. No, nope, yeah, nope, she's back back, okay, all right, And of course thank you so much to Paul for hanging out and Trek talking with us tonight. Thank you, Paul, and of course thank you Eric for hanging out. Now. We don't want ve to feel left out, so from this point on we're all going to be frozen and we'll just move our lips so that v so people don't feel so thank you so much to Eric for hanging out and Trek talking with us tonight.

1:59:29 Thank you, Eric. And thank you so much to David, not only for hanging out and trek talking with us, but for all those awesome graphics and videos. Thank you so much, David. I'm excellent host. Oh my god, I gotta say to everybody, thank you so much, and please start. Your fans are the best fans. Stay safe and be good to each other. Hailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody. Mhm, you're not. Healthy, everybody.

2:00:10 Alsatians. I'm ready for departure, sir. Some problem RIGHTA. Just hoping this isn't the usual way our missions will go. Sir oh no Number what I'm sure most will be much more interesting. Let's see what's out there. Engage