June 15, 2025

EPISODE 642- Strange New Worlds given a fifth, final and shortened season.

EPISODE 642- Strange New Worlds given a fifth, final and shortened season.
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Star Trek Strange New Worlds
In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and the hosts engage in lively discussions about various aspects of the Star Trek universe, including fan shout outs from around the globe, ethical dilemmas presented in Star Trek episodes, and character analyses, particularly focusing on Lwaxana Troi and Odo. The conversation highlights the importance of community among Star Trek fans and the show's ability to spark meaningful discussions about morality and character behavior. In this conversation, the participants delve into the implications of choices made by characters in Star Trek, particularly focusing on Giorgio's decision to offer Saru an opportunity to explore beyond his planet. They discuss the moral and ethical considerations of such choices, the character development of Saru, and the broader themes of curiosity and exploration in the Star Trek universe. The conversation also touches on the Prime Directive, the impact of alien encounters, and the future of the Star Trek franchise, including discussions about the upcoming season of Strange New Worlds and the potential for reboots of classic series. In this segment, the conversation delves into the future of Star Trek, exploring potential new series ideas centered around Klingons and Romulans, as well as the reception of current shows like Discovery and Strange New Worlds. The discussion also touches on the significance of Star Trek birthdays, honoring the legacy of actors and characters from the franchise. In this episode, the hosts celebrate the birthdays of notable figures in the Star Trek universe, including Paul Giamatti and Adrienne Barbeau. They discuss exciting news and updates related to Star Trek, including upcoming comic releases and collectibles. The conversation wraps up with a look ahead to future shows and discussions, including a focus on Space 1999.
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On showing.

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Well good evening Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe. I'm

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your most taxent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast.

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Today's Thursday, June twelfth, twenty twenty five, and this is

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episode six hundred and forty of Trek Talking and Beyond.

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I want to introduce you to my awesome truk Sperts.

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And we'll start off with Paul. Paul's out in Portland.

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How you doing tonight, Paul?

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Never a dull moment, Uncle Jim. I'm sure you can relate,

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but never yeah, never, never, never I guess the world

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likes a plot t us occasionally. But I'm doing okay.

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I'm doing good. I'm good to the longest Tomorrow's Friday,

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I'm doing okay.

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Friday's e And also from Portland, we have our very

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own Eric, How you doing tonight?

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Eric?

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I'm doing okay. Jim definitely thinking a lot about our

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brothers and sisters down there in LA and other parts

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of the country who are demonstrating for what they believe in.

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Stand with you, brothers and sisters. I personally am doing

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pretty good today though, had a good.

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Day, excellent, excellent. And also from Portland, we have our

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very own David, He's our a miracle worker on the

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podcast how You doing Tonight?

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David bumbed pretty bummed. Um, yeah, I pop him back again.

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And uh, I'm a little depressed that we're not going

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to be able to speak to our guest today. That's

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why I don't have the trouble here because he's depressed too,

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so you know.

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And surprisingly enough, not from Portland, but from Virginia, we

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have the how you doing tonight?

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V doing all right?

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Sideways we'll con salute or sarcastic fall concert as Vulcans.

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What did the Klingons call that on lower decks? Didn't

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they have a was live, live, short and die without honor?

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What did the Klingons say?

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No, No, I don't remember.

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I remember that episode anyways.

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Yeah.

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Well, so, as as David said, Alex Deal will not

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be joining us, he canceled out about an hour or

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two ago, and I didn't have time to fill the

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slot that quick. So there you have it, so he

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won't be with us.

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You mean that's a full two hours of just the

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five of us.

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Just us? Yeah, man, can we do it?

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I think that's that's that's when they shows that it's

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the best, right, that's when it really Hold on a second,

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let's prepare for this, so it's just the five of us.

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No guests, right, no guests, let's all do this. Remove filter.

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There we are, Okay, I am now unhinged and ready

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for fun.

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Uh. So, you guys can help support trek talking by

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head over to our Patreon page with it. Charles runs

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our Patreon page. It's only two dollars, yeah, two dollars

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a month, and you can become a patron it's it's

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So please do we appreciate it. On tonight's show, we

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will not be talking to Alex Deeal from Star Trek

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for card unfortunately, so I got to skip over that.

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But we do have our fans shout outs as usual.

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That's when we get to go around the globe and

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thank fans just like you for being a fan of

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our show. We also have our Star Trek polls. Did

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Lawaxana Troy Harass odo dun dunt dunt dum? I wonder

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what the minions thought?

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Didn't has? I mean, I think that's question.

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That's true. We didn't share ass definitely, and did Lieutenant

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Georgio Douceur roue wrongly?

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I don't know.

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I'll have to wait and see at what Star Trek

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actor do you share a birthday with? Find out in

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our Star Trek Birthday section and what's going on around

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the Star Trek universe. Michelle Nicols, Space Camp, upcoming IDW

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comic books, and Eric's favorite segment Chattner says, what so

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that and so much more to on tonight's podcast. You

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definitely want to stick around. It's going to be interesting.

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So what do you say we move in to do

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some fan shout outs? How does that sound?

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Well?

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All right, and we're going to have Eric start off

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with our fans shout outs. Take it away, Eric, Well, Jim.

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We always appreciate all of the people who support our

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podcast from all the four corners of the globe, far

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and wide, north and south, east and west. We're gonna

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spin that globe and start out all the way down

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in South Africa and say hello and welcome this week

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to no Ferraz. Duno Ferraz. We really appreciate your support

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down in that country, down at the tip of that continent,

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and hopefully you're listening right now and hearing your name.

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Don't forget folks. You can leave us a message on

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our website or send Jim a little im message and

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get your name right on the air, no problem, Like

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Nuno Ferraz, thanks so much for listening to us. Also

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saying hello this week to Jonathan Kevin Londe who's saying

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hello to us from Germany, sending us Many a flag

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though I see a union Jack, I see a German

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flag and I see that old livelong and prosper emoji.

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I will say peace and long life to you, Jonathan.

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Thank you so much for saying hello to us. Also

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spinning that globe just a little bit north and west

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of Germany, and saying hello this week to Leonora Holland

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Hale from the amazing country of Denmark. I am currently

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planning a trip that includes Denmark. I can't wait to

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go to your country for the first time in my life.

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Leonora.

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It looks pretty cool and I have so many reasons.

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That go there.

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You probably have a lot of reasons you live there.

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Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. And

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last but not least, just a little bit to the west,

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gonna say hello this week to Liz Ballard, who's saying

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hello to us from Scotland, maybe the Highlands, maybe not,

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I don't know, but Liz is also listening to our

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podcast and we say coplaw to you. Charles is not here,

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so David, who would you like to say hello to

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you this week?

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Yeah, I would like to say hello, and thanks for

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listening to Tom. David Chin from Ohio again, hello, and

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thank you for listening to Luke Besh from Arkinshaw, and

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next on my list is thank you, Thank you listening

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to Max Lockwood from Michigan. And last on my list,

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thank you and welcome to Jason hit from Tennessee giving

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us that long and prosperous symbol V. Would you like

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to show you load to anybody?

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Yes?

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I sure would. Hello to j Stewart who's in Colorado.

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Thank you for listening, Jay got Dan Marinucci in Canfield, Ohio.

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Thank you, Sharon Diane Hurts out of Saskatoon, Canada, our

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neighbors to the north. We stand with you and certainly

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laugh but not Lee Sandor Boda from Florida. Thank you

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all for listening.

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That's where Paul jumps in.

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This is the part where you handed off to.

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Wait for business production. Prepare myself more pancake makeup. I'm

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ready now Aska. That is one of the haw. Why

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is there not a starship named the USS There should

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really because you just want to say it over and

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over again.

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Right, they have the California class, they need to have

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the Canada class ships.

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And that we could go like or Lieutenant Commander Saskatoon,

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or it could be an area on the ship. Listen

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after you get off duty, meet me in the Saskatoon.

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I know.

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It's even better than the Hohla Deck right. Anyhow, I'm

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just pro Saskatoon and I just want.

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To get that out.

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So let's reach out to some other fans on other

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parts of this oh so United globe wherein we reside.

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First of all, let's go over to Hungary country. We're

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not exactly trying to emulate, but it seems like we

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might be. But I'm sure there's a lot of really

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good things there too, especially Star Trek fans like the

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Great Tamas East in Hungary.

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There.

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I'm not sure where you reside, my friend, but I'm

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sure you are doing your best, and whenever you can

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probably checking out the latest Star Trek. And we have

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a lot of latest upcoming Star Trek to talk about today, Tummas,

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so look forward to hearing that from us. So thanks

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for reaching out. It's great to hear from you there

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many continents away on the other hemisphere. Let us go

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to Neroi. We're using our brazil Tonzago Filho, who is

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waving to us and unfurling that Brazilian flag. It's just NonStop,

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Marty gra We will live, my friend, and it is

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wonderful to hear from you great and it's just nice

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knowing that in the the Latin part of the universe,

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the stuff truck is thriving. So I love to see that.

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We are just going to get whiplash because we're going

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from one continent to the other in no discernible order whatsoever,

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so crossing time zones and longitudinal planes with equal a plum.

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We're going to see our friend Dave malin in Ui

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Hellai and North Wales, who Dave looks very happy, judging

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from the emotion the emotional emoji he's sending to is

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here today. But Welsh is a challenging language and pronunciation

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is not for the feint of heart, so I don't

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know if I'm saying correctly. I'm sure I'll be told

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later if I did not. But anyhow, Wales is a

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great thing and quite a bit of doctor who takes

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place in Wales and seems to get shot up there.

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From what I understand, or at least I did at

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one time, I could be out of date. That's okay,

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that was.

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Wow. I'm not very good at it.

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So eerily lifelike. I thought maybe we had a technical malfunction.

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It would be freaking out.

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I thought somebody was trying to trying to make the

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warp sounds of the ship.

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No, it's more like, no, that's it.

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I think it's more like anyhow.

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See, this is what our exposure to Wales will.

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Do to you.

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Exposure to whales will make you crazy or a little giddy.

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And that's kind of how we'd like to roll on

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Truk dogging and beyond. Let's not forget that. And one

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more fan here. I want to make sure to acknowledge

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our good friend in Iran, and I want to wish

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you all the absolute best. And that is too Farshid,

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our Dobby Lee, Farshie, Farshid, I just cannot tell you

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how great it is to hear from you. And Farshid

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has watched Star Trek the original series from childhood and

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has continued watching every series in all the films too.

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That is a fan is loved, loved and always will

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love Star Trek. One tracky lifelong truckie, more hearts and

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Bulkan peace signs and I can possibly count. So I

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just think, Farshid, you live in a challenging part of

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the universe, and one that does not get nearly the

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degree of respect that you should. So I just want

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to wish all you and your comrades and that part

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of the world peace and happiness and safety. Okay, So

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I just wanted to make sure to get that out.

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So I just it's one of the reasons I think

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that we love to focus on our international fans, just

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keep interacting, and keep your love for Star Trek alive.

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And I will go ahead and ask my bullhorn of

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craziness over to that battle wielding madman, that truck talking

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enthusiast part excellence, that out of control Vermontonian. I that

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I thank you, Paul, thank you. So I'm going to

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you to Randall Cornington who's listening to us in New Joys, Joys, Joys, Joys.

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there's me with a stormtrooper. There's all kinds of nice there.

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We are running in Me and my wife running into

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Michael Myers on an elevator and he told out his knife.

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Is that true?

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they bought one. They cut the eyes out, spray painted

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very deliberately, like William Shatner does. And he actually like

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Shatner if he was a mass murderer. So that is true.

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it is time for our Star Trek polls.

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Lin lin Linen, you know me like no Wind, what

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you thought about the show, then we try just share

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your opinions with all of our minions out there because

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they listen worldwid.

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So tell us just what you think.

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Get together we will alter Canar and robbylin A.

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So Eric, David and I were talking last week, well

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the other day when we were testing this echo echo

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echo thing that we need to come up with a

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polling song video, and what popped in my mind was,

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do you remember the cowboy dude from the episode Neutral

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Zone of TNG when he wanted to go get some

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low miles poon dogs for data?

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Sure, I'm thinking I could just picture him sitting there

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plucking on his guitar. That so I want to try

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to incorporate him into a video that we could play.

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David and I got to work on it. But a

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we do our Star Trek polls and every week on

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our Facebook page, I try to come up with interesting, ethical,

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you know, polls that make you think very deep and

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look inside of yourself and you know, you know, good

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stuff like that. Sometimes something stupid like Riker's beard. You

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never know what you're gonna find, but you got to

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go over to our Facebook page to find him. And

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we ask you, guys, our minions, what you think about it. So, David,

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what is this week's toll number one? If you would

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roll the video? The video?

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Ah, there you are.

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Oh though, have you ever been on the fourth game

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to Dawn?

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I can't say I have.

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I have the most wonderful Hall of program, and I

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preserved a sweet forest with that Quark person.

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You told Quark that you were going into a hollow

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suite with me.

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Of course he's preparing a special.

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Picnic basket for us.

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Good lord, I'm afraid I'm not available.

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I have to get to upper Pilon three immediately, not

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an ambassador.

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Ah, whatsana upper Pilon three.

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I've always wanted to see an upper pylon.

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I know I'll have Quarks and one of his minions

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with our basket.

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We'll have our picnic up there.

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Madam Ambassador, Oh whatsana?

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I don't eat.

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This is not a real mouth.

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It is an approximation of one. I do not have

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an esophagus, or a stomach or a digestive system.

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I am not like you.

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Every sixteen hours I turn into a liquid had swim.

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Computer that odor to WOPS.

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Go ahead, ODO, And that's a Detroit And I are

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stuck in turbolift seven.

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What's going on?

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Power to the pile on turble lifts has failed?

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Reading a turbo lift failure, ODO.

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Will beat you well? Looking on prepared to transport, ready, energizing.

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Well, looks like the transporters down too.

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But don't worry, Constable, we'll get it repaired right away.

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Dexter Chief O'Brien, please report to OPS immediately.

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If you patient, ODO, we'll get you out of there

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as soon as we.

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Can alone at last.

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Boy, he's a pretty lucky guy.

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Huh. I feel like that's the that's the moment when

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you hear like the Quincy Jones kick in is like.

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But oh yeah, and the music it was a little

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serious for the for the stick, right I mean it's

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kind of like style, right, really, it's just like the

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plays very dramatic, like, oh.

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Right, what is the pole question now that we saw

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the video?

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What well, I'll tell you what the pole question is, Jim.

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And then I have some comments about Odo. So in

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the Deep Space nine episode The Forsaken Waxana is shown

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persistently pursuing Odo, a shape shifter, despite his rejection. She

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is shown to be flirtatious and assertive. Do you consider

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her actions slash behavior to be sexual harassment? It say

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solid question? Seventy percent of our pole responders said yes,

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it is sexual harassment, and thirty percent of our poll

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responders said no, it is not sexual harassment. It's definitely harassment. Now,

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I mean, it's clear that they did it for the

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comedic effect, right because she's so darn persistent, and I

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think it works like from a writing standpoint and that

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kind of stuff, because you know, that's her personality, that's

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the type of person she is. Would that type of

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behavior fly in like the average American workplace these days?

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Absolutely not? So, you know, is it harassment?

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Yeah?

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Maybe what is TV harassment? So it's a little bit

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different than the real thing.

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So do you agree with the minions?

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Well, I have to agree that I do think it

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is harassment. Yes, I still think it's hilarious and it

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works because it's a TV show. But yeah, like I said,

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in real life, that type of thing wouldn't fly. But

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I enjoy watching Locksana do pretty much everything she does.

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Well, how about you v Yeah, well, I think I

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replied on the pole and it's like, initially, yes, she

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is harassing him, but like Eric said, that's part of

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her outrageousness if you've seen her, you know, in any

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of the like the TNNG episodes where he gets between

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Wharf and Alexander when Alexander is is little and but

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the thing is that well, the one funny part and

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it's a little bit later in the turbo lift where

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she asked Oda what he's I think something to the

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effect of what he's doing, and he's he's wondering if

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that open conduit is live or something, or how much

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water chit has. So it's like he wants to like

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zap himself or just I don't know. But as the

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scene goes on and he confesses that he's never you know,

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done his uh the regeneration thing where he turns into liquid.

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He's never It's a very private thing for him, and

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he's trying to hold on and he's like all miserable

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and gum hey, looking like he is. And then you

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see her hand him that wig and she confesses she's

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you know that, you know, he asked, why do you

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have to wear this?

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As well? I've never been ordinary?

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And that's when she drops her guard and you see

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the real Laxna and then she you know, holds holds

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him in her skirt. Well, he turns into his liquid form,

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and then after that they are They are friends, as

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we'll see from that episode where she is escaping her

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creepy husband who wants to keep their baby.

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So yeah, I think you're right V that they took

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that situation and they turned it into actually actually a

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really great moment right there where Loaxana opens up and

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they both learned something about each other. And when it

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comes right down to it, that's what Star Trek's all about. Yep,

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in my opinion. But up to that point, yeah, she

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was harassing him, for sure, she was following, and.

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The other you know, the other thing I just realized

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in that scene is that he never says like please, stop.

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He's never like no, you know, not that that is

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necessary to like stop it, but like that's definitely he's

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just trying the avoidance tactic and that, you know, it's

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not maybe it could be construed that if that's not

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clear rejection of her advances.

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Yeah, he's trying to be polite, is what he is,

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trying to be polite.

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Yeah.

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And also I just remember too that he tells her

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about how when he was still part of the what

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was it in the lab or whatever, and he used

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to be used for entertainment at the Cardassian parties and

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that's that's all it was. And she said, I'll invite

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you to my party and you don't have to entertain anybody'll,

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you know, I'll make sure you have a good time.

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So that was really sweet too.

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Yeah, she's an interesting, interesting character for sure, But I

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have to go with the minions on this one. I

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think that she, even though it had a good ending

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and it turned out to be sweet and caring and

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emotional and whatnot, up to that point, she definitely was

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harassing him for sure.

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What do you think, Paul, I disagree, Yeah, I don't

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think so. I mean harassment I think has a very

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onerous tenor to it. And I don't think she's doing

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anything other than just being very insistently like friendly, right

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and being really assertive. That's her personality. But does it

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qualify as harassments?

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Now?

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And she does, you know, and if you've take any

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kind of corporate harassment training, which I have many times,

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I mean again, he does not object to it at all.

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He just looks uncomfortable, right, because you could just be

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uncomfortable with her big personality.

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Right.

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So, and it's a TV show, right, I mean to me,

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it's just this seems like kind of a silly thing

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to even be. I mean, with you know, a lot

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of walks on it. It seems like we're putting a

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very serious question on a very you know, uh arch

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and and comedic trope. So I don't quite follow how

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that came to be. But no, I would say, no,

476
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she's she is not. I mean, she's walking up to

477
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.640
the pet shop glass and pushing her nose up against

478
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.640
the window. But is she tickling the puppies? No, she's not.

479
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:52.920
All right, what do you think, David, Yeah, I I

480
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:54.559
don't think that she is harashling.

481
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.119
I mean, this is Letrono Troy It's just's her character, right,

482
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:03.640
this is how she is in TG, So she pesters everybody,

483
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.039
even though we may she perceive it that way that

484
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.640
she's pestering, it's just the way she is. So and

485
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.960
if you have to also realize that she's supposed to

486
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:16.440
be an alien, right, So aliens do they take harassment

487
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.480
the same way we do? I don't know, but to me,

488
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.920
I actually don't think that she's ho asking Odo. And

489
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.440
if Odo didn't really want to be harrassed, why didn't

490
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.279
he just shake shift into like something that he could

491
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.279
have just flown away or something, you know, I mean,

492
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.200
if he didn't really want her there, like everybody else

493
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:36.640
was saying, you know, he didn't say stop, He didn't

494
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:41.079
you know, push her away or anything. So I can't

495
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.319
see it being harrassimate that much. I'm agoins dominions on

496
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:45.839
each one.

497
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:50.000
All right, excellent, So there you have it. So are

498
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.799
we ready to roll the next one? David, y'all cute up?

499
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:53.440
Are ready to go?

500
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:54.680
Yep?

501
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.160
All right, I'm ready to go roll the tape.

502
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.039
Why was it forbidden to keep their technology?

503
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.400
Why did balance mean that we could not ask questions?

504
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:17.960
I needed answers, so I sent out a message, hoping.

505
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:21.119
There was someone out there to hear it.

506
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:21.640
Hello.

507
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:35.119
I waited, not knowing if I would wait forever, not

508
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:52.640
knowing if any answer would come too late for me.

509
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.720
It's a pleasure to finally put a face to the name,

510
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:30.359
mister Saroon, an entirely new face of that, saying a

511
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.640
Bram Saron gijus you doing not tell?

512
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.039
Lulia was not certain you would come.

513
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:43.240
If you come with me, everything you know will change.

514
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.599
Will I be able to return one day to help

515
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:48.079
my people?

516
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.799
It was difficult enough for me to convince staff meet

517
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.839
to make an exception for you. You cost quite a stirb.

518
00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:59.599
It's not every day we get a hello from a

519
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:07.240
member of a pre warped society. There are many complicated

520
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.480
rules that prevent me from doing more. I'm afraid that

521
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.160
means you will never be able to come back home.

522
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.279
Are you prepared for that, mister saru.

523
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:56.119
My place is no longer here. I saw a hoop

524
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:07.079
in the stars. It was stronger than fear, and I

525
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.119
went toward it.

526
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:17.680
Oh, there you have it. So what's the poll question? Eric?

527
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:34.039
Hope you're on mute.

528
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.240
I'm just you know, you guys could say something. I

529
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:41.279
was on my other screen here all right. In the

530
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.000
Star Trek episode Short Trek episode The Brightest Star, through

531
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.119
being a member of a non warp capable society, builds

532
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:52.799
a transmitter and sends a message. Lieutenant Georgio responds, taking

533
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.759
him away to Starfleet. Did she make the right choice?

534
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.559
Eighty three percent of our responders said she absolutely made

535
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:05.880
the right choice. Seventeen percent said no first and foremo oh, Paul,

536
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.400
do you want to do you want to go first?

537
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.880
I just think the question is confusing to me because

538
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.359
she didn't make a choice. She gave the choice to Seru.

539
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:17.839
Yeah, I think I think the spirit of the question

540
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.480
is was it the correct thing to do for GEORGEO

541
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:25.200
to provide the opportunity for Seru to look beyond his

542
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.359
own planet based on his like searching of you know,

543
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:34.079
asking the question is there somebody else out there? Which

544
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.640
is amazing that, by the way, he was able to

545
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.680
read the English that was sent back to him.

546
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.319
But.

547
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.960
That aside, I think it was absolutely right for her

548
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.000
to provide that opportunity. You know, she didn't come in

549
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:51.759
and like land in the middle of the city square

550
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.200
and like freak everybody out by the fact that aliens were,

551
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.839
So she went to one person who had already reached out,

552
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.759
and she gave him the out opportunity to to become

553
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.720
something more. And I would hope that if I ever

554
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:08.320
started sending messages out into space, some benevolent alien would

555
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:11.320
come and grab me too and give me the opportunity

556
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:12.599
to go check them out for a while.

557
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:13.480
So we're with you.

558
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:23.280
I'm totally absolutely everybody's welcome, uh, you know, based on

559
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.360
whatever the aliens say. So yeah, I'm with the minions

560
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:27.280
on this. It was absolutely the right decision. I don't

561
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.199
see any I don't even see a prime directive violation here.

562
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.719
Well remember the episode of pen Pals when Data did

563
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:39.239
the same thing with Sarzanka. Yep, same same basic story,

564
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:44.480
the same thing, same thing, except Data got trouble.

565
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.440
Yep, he did.

566
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:47.400
Yet got trouble.

567
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:48.480
Mm hmmm.

568
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:53.840
So but apparently at this point in time they don't care.

569
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:56.880
Yeah, and I think didn't.

570
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.800
I can't remember was it was it, because that's when

571
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.960
we had the infamous Doctor Pulaski, and I can't remember

572
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.239
it was her that said Data, you did a good thing.

573
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.760
But I think somebody did because he did. He saved

574
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.800
her planet and they erased her memory so she wouldn't

575
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.280
have remembered. And because they were a pre warped society

576
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.559
as well, it was you know.

577
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.000
What that was? That was that was android discrimination right there.

578
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.039
Well, do you remember we actually had a show about

579
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.159
the episode pen Pals once and I had a big

580
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.239
problem with him erasing her.

581
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.320
Memory without Yeah, that's kind of.

582
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.880
That was the part of that story that I just

583
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.960
was really really uncomfortable with. Anytime you like take control

584
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.079
of somebody's brain and you do something to it without

585
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.039
their permission, that just this didn't work for me, And

586
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:52.960
I think it was they didn't even ask her if

587
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.199
she could you keep a secret or anything like that.

588
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.960
They just went ahead and did it. But anyway, Va,

589
00:35:57.960 --> 00:35:59.559
I don't know if you've seen this, because you were

590
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:01.239
saying maybe you haven't seen all the short tracks, but

591
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:04.199
you should definitely watch this one. This one's a sweet story.

592
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:08.800
Yeah, I mean, I just watching it when I did

593
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.760
just now that was the thing that I you know, sau,

594
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.239
you know that that age old question, is there anybody

595
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.480
out there even in you know, going back to the

596
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.800
eighteenth century, you know where I live in work every

597
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.320
day they were there was the thing about the plurality

598
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.119
of worlds and looking to the heavens and saying, are

599
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:33.000
we it is there? Who else is out there? In

600
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:38.280
this case? He gets an answer and she tells him exactly,

601
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.519
you know, you can't come back. This is it, and

602
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:47.159
he does make the choice. So I think, you know,

603
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:49.199
she she could have said, well, you don't have to

604
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.480
come with me, but this is what's going to Well

605
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.239
she did actually say that, but uh, this is what's

606
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.280
going to happen, and he says yes, and so he

607
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:02.960
goes and hopefully he's able to help his world somewhat.

608
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:06.280
So I think she she offered him the choice. That's

609
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:07.159
the big thing to me.

610
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:17.039
Yeah, and spoiler alert, she lied, Yeah, she lied. He

611
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:19.159
does go. He does get back there at some point.

612
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.239
Okay, I thought something else, but that.

613
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:26.360
Was his sister. By the way, Uh, the Kelpian and

614
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:31.760
Kelpians also mind kelp on their planet of Kelpia. So

615
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.239
that was his sister that was standing there and saw

616
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.239
the shuttle fly away. Forgot Sarana. I think that was

617
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:39.639
her name.

618
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:41.360
I can't remember.

619
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.119
I think it was Sarana And she actually shows up

620
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:51.519
later on uh season five of Discovery. Yeah, she shows

621
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:55.559
up later anyway, So yeah, we see her again for sure?

622
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.559
What about it, Paul, did did did Georgio make the

623
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.519
right show in taking Sharu away? Or should she have

624
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:03.159
left them there?

625
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.760
Well? Again, I think she left the choice with him, right.

626
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.760
She she basically set the situation, right, said, well, we're

627
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:14.519
contacting you, and we're like to give you an opportunity. Right.

628
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.440
But but I don't think she really The only choice

629
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:19.840
she made was was getting in touch with him the

630
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:21.559
way I see it, right, was getting in touch with

631
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:25.000
him and providing him the opportunity. It all rests on

632
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:26.719
him though. He's the one who makes the choice in

633
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:30.079
this situation, right. So it's like she's not mandating that

634
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:34.400
because he contacted you know, other societies, that he has

635
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.360
to do a thing. Right, So she's just basically saying,

636
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.960
because of this, I'm introducing myself to you. You know.

637
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.719
It's it's you know, it's not like what you heard

638
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.280
about like the Gary seven origin story where people were

639
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.119
plucked away and whisked off to you know, be raised elsewhere. Right,

640
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.039
So it's not like that. It's pretty benign, I would say.

641
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.840
But I think, you know, I think if we're just

642
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:01.320
talking about just you know, was she just giving the

643
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.840
him the opportunity. The way she's describing it, it seems

644
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.480
to me that it's probably more guideline driven and it's

645
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.679
not her own personal choice. It's the feeling I get

646
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:11.880
because she's at one point she says, there's a lot

647
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.519
of complicated rules about what you can and can't do,

648
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.880
so I think she's just kind of I got the

649
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.719
feeling this was not the first time that that happened,

650
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:20.360
but it was an unusual thing, and she was just

651
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.960
sort of following whatever protocols start Flea has in place

652
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.559
for those type of situations. I think she it's to

653
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.679
me it's a it's a more benign, nobler aspect of

654
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:35.159
of of Starfleet than we seem to see a lot

655
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.159
more lately. But who watches the Watchers kind of reminds

656
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.679
me of that situation too. From next January. It's like

657
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.119
you kind of saying, Okay, well you kind of found

658
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.280
out more than you might you know, we would like

659
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.039
you to know. But as a result of that, we're

660
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:54.159
going to show you other things just so you know,

661
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.559
pretend that you haven't seen this stuff. We're going to

662
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:59.559
explain it to you, and then you know, hopefully go

663
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.239
on our way and no harm done. So I think more.

664
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:03.800
Akin with that.

665
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.079
But it's an interesting sub origin story. I'm surprising.

666
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.920
And you know, it says a lot about the character

667
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:11.079
of Seru as well, because she's a lieutenant when she

668
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:15.519
rescues him, or when she finds him, she doesn't actually

669
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.840
rescue him, but when when she takes him away in

670
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:20.599
the shuttle, she's a lieutenant. And next time we see

671
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:24.440
them on Discovery, she's the captain and he's the lieutenant

672
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.760
on her ship. And so and if I remember correctly,

673
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:32.480
he speaks ninety three languages or something like that, so

674
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:40.000
he's definitely brilliant. He's very smart, he's very advanced. So

675
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.119
it speaks a lot for the character where he gets

676
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:43.760
so quickly.

677
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.400
So now he's driven by curiosity. I mean that that's

678
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:49.280
in line with who he is, right, That's why he

679
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.920
sends a message in the first place. He wants he

680
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.119
wants to know, He asks questions, he wants to find out,

681
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.760
So it's appropriate. I think, like you're saying for his

682
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.480
character that he would, you know, given that choice, given

683
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.000
that opportunit unity, he would accept it because he's curious.

684
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:04.000
He wants to know. You knowing there are the things

685
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:05.639
out there. He wants to know what they are.

686
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.079
So I think it's good, and off he goes, what

687
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.480
about it, David? If Georgia wanded right now in your

688
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.199
yard in Portland in a shuttle and said, Yo, dude,

689
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:19.559
you want to come with me, what would you do call?

690
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:27.599
You're like, hey, he wants a free tripted base. So

691
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:32.119
there was some part of that episode that I uh

692
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.599
could have added, and I didn't want it to be

693
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:38.800
super long. But we have to remember that the Kalpians

694
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:43.360
were not technically a free warp civilization. They met a

695
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:48.920
pre warp civilization beforehand, which was a bou and they

696
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:55.639
were enslaving them, taking their resources, and you uh.

697
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.519
The point point. In fact, I believe that the Bowel

698
00:41:58.559 --> 00:41:59.920
and the Kelpians are from the same.

699
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:07.280
Plant, Okay, so that he had their own separate empire,

700
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:09.880
separate from the planet of Camani.

701
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.199
Maybe I'm misremembering. I thought they were from the same planet.

702
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.679
Well maybe, but from what I remember that they were

703
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:23.320
taking in the idea of like enslaving them or using

704
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.880
them for resources or something, because I got Kalpians are

705
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:32.239
really delicious, I guess I don't know, but but the

706
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.199
thing is is that they were they knew about alien

707
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:42.559
before uh Shu even because apparently that technology was a

708
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.480
bau and so he turned it into a transmitter and

709
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.639
they knew about alien life. And so that's probably why

710
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:53.239
Georgia came in because they she realized what they baou

711
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.119
were doing to the Kalpian. So in a way, is

712
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:05.280
that technically still which the word, you know, disobeying the

713
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:09.679
prime directives? Maybe, I don't know, but just the idea

714
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.760
that he knew that there might have been life out

715
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:18.039
there anyway because of this strange machine that was doing

716
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.119
stuff to them that eventually in discovery they did find

717
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:26.719
out that they were aliens hiding the shadow cliche as

718
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:31.400
you may call it, that you know, they were actually

719
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:37.039
being driven off world possibly or transformed into some form

720
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:43.679
of food. But I'm just wondering with that transmitter, I'm

721
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.039
just glad that it had that many screens on it,

722
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.000
Otherwise it would have said hell or Truda instead of

723
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:54.960
Hello and today. So that's just a lotwer coincidence for

724
00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.039
that many screens review. But yeah, I don't know. This

725
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.880
one's a little confusion to me. But I mean, with

726
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.960
the whole prime directive, you don't interfere with pre work civilization.

727
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:08.360
Were they?

728
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:08.880
I don't know.

729
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.599
I mean, that's a little deeper dived than I cann't

730
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.760
really think right now, But I don't know. I'm kind

731
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:18.760
I'm kind of in between, to be honest, I'm not

732
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:19.320
really worth it.

733
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:24.159
So just to just to clarify it, to clear the

734
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:28.960
muddied waters a little bit, the Kelpians were wiping out

735
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:34.239
the Booul and then the Boule flipped the script on

736
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.880
the Kelpians and enslaved them. It took over the planet,

737
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.239
and much later in time, the Kelpians break loose from

738
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:46.239
the bowel, and I'm assuming they become friends we and

739
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.639
unify the planet. We don't know for sure, but I

740
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:51.199
think it's a safe assumption that the babul and the

741
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.519
Kelpians finally came to some type of agreement and stopped

742
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:59.840
eating each other. I think so so they You know,

743
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:04.400
You're right, David, They the Bible were a you know,

744
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:09.800
a warp. They had space shifts. So yeah, all right,

745
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.800
So there you have it, guys, any any comments before

746
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:14.440
we move on.

747
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.000
Just so we know what am I playing next? I

748
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:19.519
can prepare?

749
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:26.960
Well, all right, why don't you roll the roll the

750
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:28.639
Strange New Worlds video.

751
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.320
All right, let me get that that.

752
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.159
Get that ready. I guess we're going to talk about

753
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:34.480
some strange new worlds right now?

754
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:36.000
Great, there we go.

755
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:37.280
All right? All right?

756
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:46.480
Someone said space is dark and cold. Our job just

757
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:51.519
to bring light, bring warmth, bring life to wherever we go.

758
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.639
Is this a hidden situation? That's whatever kind of adventure

759
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:01.119
we want it to be. This crew is a.

760
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.599
Team the finest star Fleet has to offer.

761
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:09.000
Indeed, it's possible they don't know about us. They know

762
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:10.719
about us.

763
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:15.679
There is evil in this universe, it's sure as there

764
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:16.320
is good.

765
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.400
The choices you make in that share they are yours

766
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:21.119
today and yours to live with.

767
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:22.719
We await your orders, sir.

768
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.000
You don't trust me with your best friend.

769
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:29.719
You don't trust me with your baby brother.

770
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:35.079
It's madness. Good to stop this invasion.

771
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:36.079
Prepareble weapons.

772
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.320
We are going to find our way out of this together.

773
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.360
It's one of those we get it done ray or don't.

774
00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:59.760
Blow ourselves up on the leave. I like those.

775
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.599
We'll just turn it off before we blow up.

776
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.639
Give me five now, down load?

777
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:10.519
Why would you do that?

778
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:19.119
Because you aren't too slow? All right, So there you

779
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:23.280
have it, Strange New Worlds Thursday, July seventeenth, Paramount Plus

780
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:25.559
And why are we showing that trailer For a couple

781
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.920
of reasons. First, we're going to talk about it, but

782
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:32.679
more importantly, the news dropped today that Paramount has renewed

783
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:37.320
Star Trek Strange New Worlds for a season five six

784
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:41.239
episodes and done. So that was the breaking news today

785
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:45.280
and we're going to talk about it. So who wants

786
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.800
to go first? What do you think about the trailer?

787
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:49.000
Eric?

788
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.519
Yeah, So when I saw the trailer, I mean, it

789
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.039
looks very action packed. You know, it's got the action

790
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.719
music kind of in the background. It looks for exciting.

791
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:05.039
It looks like there's gonna be some unique character interactions.

792
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:11.599
They showed that budding romance there, so we'll see how

793
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:15.119
that works out with Uhura. I mean, you know, one

794
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.880
of the one of the downsides of Strange New Worlds

795
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.079
is that you already know what happens after it, so

796
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:22.079
we kind of know the romance isn't gonna work out,

797
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.880
But I'm still interested in like seeing how it how

798
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:27.000
it goes, you know, and seeing how they get there.

799
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:33.159
I one wish or hope that I have for this

800
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:39.480
season is that they continue to very sparingly use characters

801
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:43.880
like Scottie and Kirk and those sort of folks, because

802
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.760
this is not their show, you know, those are the

803
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:51.880
those are the people who are gonna take over the ship.

804
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.920
But I like seeing the adventures of law On and

805
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:03.199
Pike and and all of the characters that we've already established.

806
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:05.320
And granted, I know there's already some crossover with like

807
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.840
Uhura and that sort of stuff, but like generally speaking,

808
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.280
I like the strange New World's characters, and so I

809
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.639
hope that they limit just the amount of time that

810
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:18.599
we spend with some of the characters from the classic series.

811
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.559
But it looks very exciting. I'm definitely on board. It

812
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.039
looks interesting. It looked like maybe there is at least

813
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.000
one cool scene there with him, Benga. He's one of

814
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:29.760
my favorite characters, and they've already explored his character a

815
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.800
little bit in previous seasons. But I love his kind

816
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.000
of cool relationship that he's got with not only Laan,

817
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.039
but he's got a cool relationship with Una. He's even

818
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:41.159
got like, in some ways kind of a cool relationship

819
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:44.079
with Pike, although that one has been fleshed out just

820
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.760
a little bit less than the other two. So yeah,

821
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.039
generally speaking, the trailer didn't turn me off of anything.

822
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.000
I'm I'm definitely looking forward to this season.

823
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.199
Zombie with Whips.

824
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:59.239
Well, okay, so I mean the cliff I forgot that

825
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:01.719
they were zombies. That is like the first trailer that

826
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:04.360
sort of showed more zombie ish type stuff. Here they

827
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.199
show the Klingon with the whip. I mean, who knows

828
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.280
what that's going to be, right, that could be, that

829
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:14.079
could be anything, so if anything, so it just like

830
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:18.960
breathes like interest and curiosity. Uh, you know, I kind

831
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:20.360
of want to know more, like what's up with the

832
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.719
zombie Lingon with the whip? Is he like part FENGI

833
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:23.400
or something?

834
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:28.239
And his set Klingons costume, right, the one you're talking about,

835
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.239
the one of the whip that we see, Yes, he's

836
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.559
got that gold sash. I mean it is like exactly

837
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.719
like the Klingons that we saw with our good friend

838
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.639
Bruce Hoak when he was General Garkog the musical number, right,

839
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.199
I mean, the exact same costumes. So it makes me wonder,

840
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:49.239
you know, we have a little potential you know, reaction

841
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.159
or I would just love it if, like even if

842
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.000
we don't see him. Would love it if these are

843
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.480
the men from General Garkogg's ship or something, just to

844
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.840
just to keep that universe in there, because I think

845
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.599
we've seen a ton of Klingons yet un strange in

846
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.079
the worlds, and I think they would be welcome. And

847
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.159
it doesn't matter if they look different, it doesn't matter

848
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:12.400
if they're not slavishly married to Cannon, right, It's just

849
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.000
it's fun and I think that's you know, that's what

850
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:16.039
we're looking for, right.

851
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:19.119
And they do show the rear end of the Klingon

852
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:28.119
battle cruiser there briefly, so you mean there's no doubt,

853
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:32.400
there's no doubt that those are Klingons. Absolutely.

854
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.199
That's sweet man, that's cool. I look forward to that.

855
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:35.760
That'll be great.

856
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:39.199
It could be it could be his ship very easily.

857
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:46.840
If they start singing. Well, no, maybe maybe Brussels say

858
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:48.079
hello to us.

859
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:50.840
So are we gonna should I talk about the news

860
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.599
that we got today now or should.

861
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.119
Any any time? I want to where this is a

862
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:54.480
free for.

863
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.800
All, Okay, So then I guess I'll wrap up my

864
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:02.559
my thing with with the news about this now being

865
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.280
the last season upcoming season five of Strange New Worlds

866
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.840
will be the last season. Six episodes is what they're

867
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.079
going to give us. You know, we've kind of talked

868
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:15.840
about this a little bit in the past when we've

869
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.360
lost other shows, whether it was Discovery or whether it

870
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.480
was Lower Decks that you know, the folks at Paramount

871
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:28.320
are are driven by money and returns and that sort

872
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:31.519
of stuff, and when they feel like they've kind of

873
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:35.039
not burnt the candle down to a nub, but burned

874
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.559
it down enough that it's no longer going to give

875
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.840
sustaining light for a long period of time, that's when

876
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.840
they're going to cancel the show. I think five seasons

877
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.920
is very respectable. Why is it six episodes and not ten?

878
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:52.159
Who knows? You know, it's impossible to say. I definitely

879
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.199
don't want to sound like I'm justifying the decision because

880
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:57.239
I think this show could keep going for a little bit.

881
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:01.880
But I think we also are using you know, Star

882
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:05.199
Trek from the nineties and two thousands, eighties, nineties and

883
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:09.599
two thousands as are as our president, and you know,

884
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:13.880
those went seven seasons, twenty six episodes every single season,

885
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:18.679
lots of duds in there, So you know, would you

886
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:21.880
rather have six really kick ass hour and a half

887
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:25.719
long episodes, or would you rather have, you know, twenty

888
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:28.360
episodes where half of them aren't aren't so good and

889
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.000
they're all exactly forty four minutes and thirty seconds long.

890
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:34.280
I'm the former, you know, I'd rather have like long,

891
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:38.760
really cool movie style episodes that will keep us talking

892
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:41.000
for an hour and a half on this on this podcast.

893
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:45.039
So I'm disappointed that they're canceling it, obviously because it's

894
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.880
a great show. But you know, it's a business decision,

895
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:53.400
I'm sure, and I'm still looking forward to other stuff

896
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:56.679
that we've got upcoming, whether it's Starfleet Academy, whether it's

897
00:53:56.679 --> 00:54:02.400
the Tony Newsome comedy show. You know, hopefully soon, maybe

898
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.199
in the next year, So maybe they'll announce something that

899
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:04.880
comes after those.

900
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:05.320
I don't know.

901
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:07.360
Well, now is as good a time as any to

902
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.719
let you guys know. Paramount wants to turn this podcast

903
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.159
into a TV series, So we are going to be

904
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.599
the next show. Okay, so as.

905
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:29.760
Long as I'm in, and.

906
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.039
It would be nice if but we're true.

907
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:33.639
I wasn't supposed to tell you guys, but you know,

908
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:35.880
Eric opened up the door and I had to throw

909
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:42.360
it out there. I'm not going to get paid. But

910
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:46.320
as far as making it only six episodes, you know,

911
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:52.320
they have everything. We haven't seen season four yet obviously,

912
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:57.440
and we definitely haven't seen six episodes of season five yet,

913
00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:02.639
but they have everything in place to make that transition

914
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:08.800
into a TOSH reboot. Right. We have Scotty, we have

915
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.119
a Whore. We haven't seen Bones yet. You know, we

916
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:15.239
haven't seen Sulu, but you know we have Scotty there

917
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:20.079
right now. We see in this trailer Kirk taking command

918
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.079
of the ship, albeit briefly, and we don't know the situation.

919
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:28.599
So you know, maybe we're going to get six episodes

920
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:31.320
of Strange New Worlds, and maybe they're going to turn

921
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:35.159
that into a Discovery Season two that rolls right into

922
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:39.679
the next series, which might be a TOS origins. That's

923
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.920
not the right word, but you know, an early TOS

924
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.199
show with these new tarans.

925
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:49.719
Do you think do you think that that's what fans want?

926
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:56.239
I don't care what fans want. I mean, fans don't

927
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:58.719
know what they want. I mean what fans want is

928
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:03.159
more you know, Berman era Star Trek. They want more Voyager,

929
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.079
they want more TNG, they want more legacy, they want

930
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.000
more of what they know. You know, they don't want

931
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.719
something new, they don't want something different, and every time

932
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.280
they get something new or different, they complain about it

933
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:17.320
and hate on it. So you know, it's it's what's

934
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.519
going to make paramount. The money is what it is.

935
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:25.519
And I think I think based on what JJ did

936
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:27.519
with the reboot movies and the amount of money that

937
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:32.239
they pulled in, well not so much, you know, Star

938
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:35.960
Trek Beyond, but the other two, whether we liked them

939
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.039
or not, they made them a lot of money. So

940
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:43.679
if they wanted to roll strange new worlds into I

941
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.320
don't even know what to call it, the Final Frontier,

942
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.159
you know, with a younger cast, and you know, I

943
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.119
would be down for that, go.

944
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:56.679
For the double reboots. Had sorready been rebooted once? Why

945
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:57.199
not rebooting?

946
00:56:57.599 --> 00:56:58.039
I would.

947
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.480
Star Trek the early voyages that could Yeah, exactly. Maybe

948
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:09.000
was that was that yawn in real time?

949
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:12.679
Or was that the sort of editorializing yacht that was editorializing?

950
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:17.119
Okay, that's what I thought, just double checking, man, you know.

951
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:21.760
Yeah, yeah, no, I just like I've had enough. I

952
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.400
like it's not I mean, we had three great seasons,

953
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:30.559
we had six movies, like the first season of TG

954
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.159
is basically reboot of TLS in a lot of ways.

955
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:38.880
So I don't know, I've had enough of the DOS crew, man,

956
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:40.039
I want some different stuff.

957
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.840
Yeah. I can imagine them doing a reboot though, with

958
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:48.519
his new cast and doing stuff differently that they would

959
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.880
have had done back in the sixties that they you know,

960
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:56.679
that they can do now so technically technology today. Just

961
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.519
back in the sixties, you know, they could have gone

962
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:03.199
really fun with all that. But I'm actually looking forward

963
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:05.119
to a reboot of The Few I should be honest,

964
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.119
I'm excited to see what kind of new stories they

965
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:10.400
could come up with, and they don't have to repeat

966
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:14.800
every single episode of the sixties show. I mean, you know,

967
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:18.079
new fresh stories might come in show. It'd be kind

968
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:19.360
of interesting to see.

969
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:22.920
If indeed that's their plan. I mean, I'm just you know,

970
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.159
blowing smoke out of my ass. Maybe that's not the case,

971
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.440
you know, maybe it's not. It just seems to me

972
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:32.920
if you think back to Discovery season two, they spent

973
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:36.519
a lot of time with Pike Spot and Number One.

974
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.320
Then we had the short Trucks with them and boom,

975
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:43.679
we got strange new worlds. So, you know, Paramount which were.

976
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.760
Characters that were that were just getting to know. Right

977
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:49.599
in Discovery, we're just getting to know them, and so

978
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:53.440
that warranted strange new worlds. That warranted like several seasons

979
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.159
of Okay, now we're going to actually explore Pike because

980
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:57.639
before all we had was the cage.

981
00:58:58.920 --> 00:58:59.119
Wow.

982
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:00.679
Yeah, well also true.

983
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:03.159
You remember when those characters showed up on Discovery for

984
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:05.000
the first time. I don't know if you guys remember,

985
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:09.599
but fan appetite was rabbit. They got a really enthusiastic

986
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:10.400
response to that.

987
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:12.199
Back in Charge again.

988
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.719
I know that it's that I don't know that it's

989
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:20.519
not black and white. I think the nostalgia factor was huge,

990
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:26.159
right as people love the they love the the nostalgia

991
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:28.639
aspect is this like, let's you know, while it may

992
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.360
be tired in some ways, we're talking one of the

993
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:37.079
most iconic television depictions of all time, you know, period.

994
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:41.000
I mean, it's just beloved and you know, and a

995
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:43.519
lot of retired boomers right who love that show. They

996
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:46.920
and their kids, they were very excited what they saw.

997
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:50.079
They loved ants in Mount Okay and the idea of

998
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:53.000
seeing Pike more of that and discovering more of who

999
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:56.360
we I think it goes beyond. You know, oh he's white,

1000
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.079
let's go there. And I really don't think it's that simple, right.

1001
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:01.320
I think it was just like we're delving into the

1002
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:03.920
past and getting you know, like when you find out

1003
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.199
like in comics, right, you get the secret origins of

1004
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:09.840
the characters you love that you never really knew before.

1005
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:11.360
Here was a chance to get a whole bunch of

1006
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:14.280
secret origin stories about the early days of the Enterprise.

1007
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:17.480
I think we were super excited. They got a huge response,

1008
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:19.159
and I think Paramount was like, we've better make this

1009
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.719
into a series, you know. I think they signed everybody

1010
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.079
contingently to be on Discovery. Right. It was just like,

1011
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:28.199
if this takes off, we'll give you a go, right.

1012
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:31.440
And I think it took off like crazy, right. I

1013
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:33.719
guess it's the same things happening, like Uncle Jim is

1014
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.239
saying with like, why write Scottie into this show if

1015
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.159
that's you know, not part of the endgame? Right that

1016
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:43.079
they're they're waiting to see how it goes. I'm not

1017
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.159
so worried about them being just six episodes for the

1018
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:47.679
last season, because I'm sure they're going to super size them.

1019
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:50.000
You know. That's a lot of times with streamers now,

1020
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.480
it's what they do. They have a smaller number of episodes,

1021
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:55.119
but they're bigger and more epic, and it kind of

1022
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.400
works in their favor to turn it into like an event.

1023
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:01.360
Right if you have, you know, lesser episodes, fewer episodes,

1024
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:05.320
excuse me, I think the hunger for it. If you're

1025
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:08.400
delivering the goods and you're getting a real serious adventure

1026
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.719
every week, it ends up, you know, driving more interest

1027
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.880
and creating a bigger thing. And certainly they would need

1028
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:17.559
that momentum to launch any kind of a reboot. But

1029
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:20.159
my guess is Uncle Jim's right, that's probably where they

1030
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:25.039
are going. And I'm I'm certainly intrigued at the prospect.

1031
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:28.519
I mean, initially I was not a big Paul Wesley.

1032
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.760
Yeah, yeah, right, listenly I wasn't.

1033
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:33.599
I think, like a lot of fans, I wasn't so

1034
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:36.800
hot on his take of Kirk. But I really think

1035
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:39.880
he's made huge strides, you know, and like, you know,

1036
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.840
you compare what's going on with Spock now to how

1037
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.440
Spock was in the first season. You know, he admitted

1038
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:49.000
he was a little wooden at first, right, finding the

1039
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:51.840
character in real time, and I think you see them

1040
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.880
doing that and being candid about it. So I'd be

1041
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:55.920
curious to see what they do.

1042
01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:58.719
Yeah, you also have to remember that strange New world

1043
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:04.079
didn't come about and until the fan pretty much, you know,

1044
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.559
like what Paul Shane, the fan Bange was huge, and

1045
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.960
so if it wasn't for that during your world wouldn't

1046
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:10.800
have been made at all.

1047
01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.840
Well, let's not forget the biggest, the best part, and

1048
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:18.360
the the ultimate goal of it would be to bring

1049
01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.320
back Cybock. Why else would you do it? Right?

1050
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:22.079
Right?

1051
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:22.440
Eric?

1052
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:28.679
I mean they tease. Did you see that one article

1053
01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:31.480
I put up this week, Gym, the one that I did?

1054
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:34.079
It sounds like you might be getting.

1055
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.639
You Well, I think that they teased us what Cybox?

1056
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:41.960
I mean they did, and that whole Cybox story is

1057
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.400
a really fascinating did you see how I did that

1058
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:51.360
very fascinating part of Spock's family history that we know

1059
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:56.000
very little about. So you know, I could see them

1060
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:59.199
doing a reboot and taking it in a different direction

1061
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:03.159
than people think it's going to go, you know, and

1062
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:05.880
really what do we know about with horror? I mean

1063
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:09.320
she sat on the bridge and open haling frequencies. I mean,

1064
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:12.519
you know, it'd be great to actually see that character

1065
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:17.360
thrive and and become a you know, a part of

1066
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:20.000
the crew. Well, we're seeing it on Strange New Worlds,

1067
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.880
but more than what we saw it on TOS. I

1068
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:27.360
think that's I think that's what they're gonna do. I

1069
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:30.000
might be wrong. I went wrong before my wife can

1070
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:31.800
come in and tell you how many times I'm wrong,

1071
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.079
But it's just my guess. You know, what do you think, David,

1072
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:36.880
they did?

1073
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.599
What if they did episodes of the TS reboot as

1074
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:44.559
like filler points from what the original series did, because

1075
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.360
not every episode in the original series would back to back,

1076
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:50.280
So what if they did like in between telling a

1077
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:53.159
story and then like T's like at the very end

1078
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:58.760
of the reboot episode that might go into a TSOOS episode.

1079
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:01.480
So I don't know, realize how much time we're going

1080
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:06.239
to spend talking about fans who bitch about the cannon

1081
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:09.920
not exactly lining up. We know that that's exactly what

1082
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:10.920
the fans would do in this.

1083
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:12.400
Well, you know what they need to do, Eric, They

1084
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.599
need to redo Arena and have have Kirk fight a

1085
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:21.039
modern Gorn the actually move that he doesn't slap in

1086
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:24.079
the ear, you know, and and let's see it let's

1087
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:24.440
see it.

1088
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:29.280
Actually, I literally have negative interest in that happens.

1089
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:36.039
I might come to my television. I would come through

1090
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.440
my television and stop it. Absolutely not. It's just like

1091
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:43.320
you know what I mean, I mean, I think that

1092
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:46.320
they've got latitude, right, I mean, and you know, it's

1093
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:48.320
like you can't really talk about It's like if you're

1094
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.880
talking about strange in the worlds, it's hard to there's

1095
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:54.239
more than one flavor of ice cream. There's like three

1096
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:56.559
or four different kinds of episodes that they do right,

1097
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:58.679
and they have done a really good job of navigating

1098
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:02.199
them really well. They'll be you know, a hardcore action

1099
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:05.920
adventure episode like we're seeing with the Gorn right those,

1100
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:12.119
you'll see the more philosophical types of episodes like you

1101
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:16.400
would see with that whole of Bengo War flashback episode

1102
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:20.280
that we had a little while ago. And incredibly, they

1103
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:24.119
are able to navigate broad comedy, I mean really broad

1104
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.480
comedy and have done it pretty successfully right, and this

1105
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:31.360
should be using really playing up the comedy in their marketing.

1106
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:34.280
Like in this trailer, it is full of comedic moments

1107
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:37.480
right when they're to hold too slow nonsense. I mean,

1108
01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:40.199
you know, it's just but it's just like, but there,

1109
01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:42.519
you know, that's been part of the problem. I think

1110
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:45.400
that they've faced it fair amount. Right, It's just like this,

1111
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:48.360
this perception the Star Trek is stodgy and boring and

1112
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.960
nerdy and inaccessible, right, I mean it really is. It's

1113
01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:55.719
not nearly the fun factor amongst the common man on

1114
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:59.480
the street is not nearly as high a recognition associative

1115
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.239
as it is of Star Wars, right, And I think

1116
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:05.239
they're trying to change that by marketing appropriately and and

1117
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:08.199
and expand their audience and get younger folks to tune in, say,

1118
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.320
this looks like a good show and looks like fun.

1119
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:12.199
So I think it's good that they're they're marketing with

1120
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.559
a little more emphasis on that. So I'm super curious

1121
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:16.280
to see what they think.

1122
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:21.360
And they are doing that that YouTube only Star Trek shows,

1123
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:24.199
uh Starfleet Scouts that we talked about a couple of

1124
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:28.039
weeks ago, which is going to be aimed at at

1125
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.320
younger audiences.

1126
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:34.880
Well, I don't even think I remember that I were

1127
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:36.119
on the on the show that.

1128
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:38.519
You might not have been that was it's aimed at

1129
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:41.679
like real young kids, like younger than prodigy age kids.

1130
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:44.480
So like the young Jedi thing they do on Disney

1131
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:48.480
Plus or Animates.

1132
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:52.400
Starfleet Scouts. What was it ten or twelve minute episodes Eric,

1133
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:53.400
something like that.

1134
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:57.639
Yep, this is the first time hearing of that, and

1135
01:06:57.679 --> 01:06:58.360
they're going to put it.

1136
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:03.199
It's going to be a you Tube thing. No, not yet.

1137
01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:09.599
Well, you know, it's just a young young viewers last

1138
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:12.440
they like to watch.

1139
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:16.119
Dolevis, so they're going to put it on YouTube. You

1140
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:19.480
have been awful quiet through this whole conversation, so well

1141
01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:22.360
I'm going to hand the microphone you take it away.

1142
01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:26.159
Yeah, now, y'all have been talking. I've just been listening.

1143
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:30.679
My mind has gone to another galaxy and come back.

1144
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.079
But I was just I was thinking, like the t

1145
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:39.719
us Gorn for some reason, reminds me of Reptor in Rugrats.

1146
01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:43.480
I don't know if anybody ever watched that with their kids,

1147
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:48.239
but yeah, so the Gorn got turned into Reptar. I

1148
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:52.639
just don't want any more. Having been watching DS nine

1149
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:55.280
is the thing I'm obsessed with right now and just

1150
01:07:55.360 --> 01:08:01.159
watching it over and over on Pluto TV, and it's like, please,

1151
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:04.639
for the love of God, do not do any mirror

1152
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:08.280
universes where everybody is the opposite of what they normally are,

1153
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.840
and they're wearing like the what I call the space

1154
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:17.000
kink stuff, you know.

1155
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:25.720
Then oh yeah, a giant giant forklift of Discovery.

1156
01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:30.079
Gee okay, yeah, now because.

1157
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:32.520
I haven't well, giant swath of camp.

1158
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:35.520
Oh geez okay, well, I mean I'm open to watching it,

1159
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:39.039
but it's just when I was on the different Facebook

1160
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:41.960
pages that are Star Trek related, there's been so much,

1161
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:47.039
so many people just saying all sorts of negative things

1162
01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:53.079
about Discovery, so but strange new worlds. I definitely of

1163
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:56.199
what little I've seen of it, I like, I don't

1164
01:08:56.239 --> 01:09:01.399
know if they'll give us another singing episode, but just

1165
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:04.199
please not a not a mirror universe. Only if it's

1166
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:07.960
going to be where you know, they've got the crossover

1167
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.479
between lower decks because that was fun, but I doubt

1168
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:16.000
they're going to do that. But other than that, or

1169
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:17.960
I was going to say, with the with the reboot

1170
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:20.920
of any t O S, you could do like d

1171
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:23.920
S nine did with Trials and Tribulations. You could have

1172
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:29.399
the old the original episodes and you could uh put

1173
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:32.119
in the whole new one the new people, you know,

1174
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:34.960
like they did with that, because that was for having

1175
01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:36.880
been done in the nineties.

1176
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:36.840
Like it was.

1177
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:41.119
That was really good. You know where the d S

1178
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:46.760
nine crew goes back to find what's his name, Darvin?

1179
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.880
Yeah, episode, Yeah it is.

1180
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:56.880
It's great. The same actor portrayed, you know, he was

1181
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:01.159
the same one that was in the original series. That's

1182
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.399
where I learned that Cardassians like to drink fish juice

1183
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:07.720
ka hot fish juice.

1184
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:12.520
Who Yeah, and Quark has a whole warehouse full of

1185
01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:14.279
it that he's never going to be able to unload.

1186
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:15.560
Another bitto again, is that?

1187
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.439
What is that? What yamick sauce is?

1188
01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:17.800
Is it?

1189
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:17.960
Is?

1190
01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:20.760
It is that the fish juice. I always wonder what

1191
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:23.279
yamic sauce was. I thought that was something different.

1192
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.800
I think I don't think they ever describe what Yamack sauce.

1193
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.359
Exactly, just like they never tell you what the Krdassian

1194
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:31.399
neck trick is all.

1195
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:34.640
About, or what a seal seals to make.

1196
01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:38.720
I love those inside cookes. That was great.

1197
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:43.560
Well, I think the name of those titles for themselves.

1198
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:48.680
So yeah, so we'll have to wait and see what

1199
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.079
they give us, right, That's all we can do. We

1200
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:54.199
know we have ten episodes of Strange New World starting

1201
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:59.960
on July seventeenth, we have another ten coming sometime in six,

1202
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:05.119
and then we'll have season one of Starfleet Academy. Then

1203
01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:09.119
we'll have the final five episode six episodes of season

1204
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:13.079
five of Strange New Worlds, presumably following that up with

1205
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:16.880
season two of Starfleet Academy, putting us into twenty twenty

1206
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.880
six early twenty twenty seven, and maybe this Tawny Newsome

1207
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:24.840
show will materialize at some point. And we still have

1208
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:30.760
the YouTube Starfleet Scouts to look out for, so you know,

1209
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:33.800
there might be Star Trek in the pipes that we

1210
01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:37.159
don't know about yet that they haven't told us about,

1211
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:37.520
you know.

1212
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.640
Okay, I got a question for everybody.

1213
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:45.600
Yes, they're making a triple series, David, what.

1214
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:48.640
If you could think of any kind of Star Trek

1215
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:53.239
serie from any character that you've changed so far? What

1216
01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:55.600
SERI would you really want them to make?

1217
01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:02.119
They need to make a clingon series based on this Yea.

1218
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:04.000
From Lower Decks with the Blood Wine.

1219
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:05.399
Absolutely, I.

1220
01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:12.720
Personally think that they missed the boat like Major Major

1221
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:17.119
with Star Trek Enterprise. Everybody wanted to see the formation

1222
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:20.520
of the Enterprise. Everybody wanted to see Schran, They wanted

1223
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:25.000
to see the Federation actually formed, not in some holid

1224
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:28.119
deck recreation with Troy and Reiker, none of that crap.

1225
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:32.840
People wanted to see it really happened, see how it happened.

1226
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:36.199
And they canceled the show right before it got there,

1227
01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:39.479
and I think that people still are interested in seeing that.

1228
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:41.319
So if they were going to do something like that,

1229
01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:44.000
I would love to see the formation of the Federation

1230
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:48.520
how it happened from ground zero, you know, I would

1231
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.640
like to see that. I think Enterprise was moving towards

1232
01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:55.039
it and had all the pieces on the table to

1233
01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:59.960
do it, and then they didn't. They decided to do

1234
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:04.680
temporal cold Wars and Zigbi's and Delfi expanses and god

1235
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:09.119
knows all what else and never really made the field

1236
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:11.800
goal that they had there. So that's what I would

1237
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:12.359
like to see.

1238
01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:15.640
Cool, what about your ck?

1239
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:19.720
Like I said the two Brothers from No, I'm serious,

1240
01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:21.640
I would. I mean, I think there's a lot of

1241
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:25.439
opportunity to bring a series that aren't Federation based series,

1242
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.239
So I would love to see like a Klingon based series.

1243
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:31.319
I'd love to see a sneaky Romulin based series where

1244
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:37.479
you actually have Romulin characters who are not just dirty

1245
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:39.800
and backhanded all the time, but maybe there's like one

1246
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:43.000
in there that like is working against the system or something.

1247
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:46.439
I mean, I think there's a lot, there's like vast

1248
01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:50.640
opportunities there. I mean, that's what Star Wars is doing now, right,

1249
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:53.680
Like we finally like all Star Wars now doesn't have

1250
01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:54.520
to have a Jedi in it.

1251
01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:57.319
For I think, yeah, I.

1252
01:13:57.800 --> 01:13:59.760
Think they I think they should do more of that

1253
01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:01.560
and Star Trek cool.

1254
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:05.520
What about you, Paul, Well, my deear it still I

1255
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:08.600
think that it seems like the biggest slam dunk is

1256
01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:13.359
you know, the most entertaining part of Next Gen for

1257
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:17.880
me was that multiple episode articles. There's several seasons of

1258
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:21.000
the whole Klingon Civil War arc, right, that whole business there,

1259
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:23.439
and I think that it would be great. Is a

1260
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:26.199
lot of times the Klingons, it's they get so camped

1261
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:29.760
up and they're so exaggerated and you know, a little hyperbolic.

1262
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:32.880
I would like to see, you know, a show that

1263
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:35.880
is just set on Chronos that is, you know, and

1264
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:39.319
maybe it could be in a more distant era, but

1265
01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:42.520
a show that's more adult in tone about the Klingons

1266
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:45.560
and all of the strife and more of a Game

1267
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:49.640
of Thrones political thing. Like if any is an any

1268
01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.039
of you guys watching House of the Dragon, the most

1269
01:14:53.079 --> 01:14:56.279
recent Georgia R Artin series like that, right, where there's

1270
01:14:56.279 --> 01:15:00.640
a conspiracies and bad actors, not bad performer, but bad

1271
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:04.560
you know engineers and uh and and really get into

1272
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:08.720
the because Clingons. It's very political, right, their struggles, right,

1273
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:12.359
it's very medieval, it's very you know, conspiracies, a lot

1274
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:16.960
of vengeance and uh and you know a lot of

1275
01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:23.640
you know, skullduggery, right, a lot of Saskatoon, so I think,

1276
01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:26.760
but but more adult style, so it's not as you know,

1277
01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:30.239
wacky and you know, we're not you know, fighting every

1278
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:33.880
five minutes over drunken whatever some of that. But you know,

1279
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.520
but in a little bit more like you know, lean

1280
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.399
into your hard R kind of thing, right and give

1281
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:43.319
us an adult political Game of Thrones type of a

1282
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.399
Klingon show. I think that could be redefine it a

1283
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:50.359
little bit, don't be completely married to canon, right and

1284
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:54.520
create a more realistic history of the Klingon Empire that

1285
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:58.199
we've ever been given before, and make it badass. Make

1286
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:01.720
it badass. Right, That's a show I watch and like

1287
01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:03.279
like the same thing that, like Eric said, you could

1288
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:05.800
do the same thing with the Ronolins, right, because they're

1289
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:06.640
kind of bad asses.

1290
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:06.880
Right.

1291
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:09.479
You could do like an eye Claudius, you know, like

1292
01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:13.880
you know, the Roman Empire, but amongst the amongst the Romulans, right,

1293
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:17.199
and let us see versions of the Romulans. You know,

1294
01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:21.000
they love, they raise children, they they have issues, they're

1295
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:23.079
hiding their their true feelings.

1296
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:23.399
Right.

1297
01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:25.319
There's all kinds of nonsense going on there, and it's

1298
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:27.800
a militaristic society, so there's a lot of stuff in

1299
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:29.520
there that would be really relevant to where we are

1300
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:34.840
right now. Yeah, I think that that's the kind of

1301
01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:37.079
thing that you know, you can take an old trope,

1302
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:41.720
you know, like you've got the with you know, the

1303
01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:43.960
TS characters, right, but give it a fresh coat of

1304
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.720
paint and make it more real and more interesting and

1305
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:49.840
and go a little deeper. I think could be. Okay,

1306
01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:52.960
that's if they do reboot original series. That's what I

1307
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:55.039
hope they do. I mean, I think they'll still if

1308
01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:59.520
these same showrunners, any of the Kurtzman gang are involved,

1309
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:02.600
they gonna still have the same style. You know. I

1310
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:04.319
would like to see some new people come in and

1311
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:06.079
take over for a while. Frankly, I think that The

1312
01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:11.119
tone has been so similar across a lot of these

1313
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:13.319
shows right that they're all starting to look the same.

1314
01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:15.640
It's kind of what you had with like nineties era,

1315
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:17.520
right with you know, Burman era. It's like you look

1316
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:19.520
at Deep Space night might watch that Deep Space line

1317
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:21.720
episode or is that a next gen episode? Can't really

1318
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.239
tem you know, It's just there's no real, you know,

1319
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:30.000
stylistic differentientia. No one's really reaching hard enough. So I

1320
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:31.680
think they kind of phone it in a bit. So

1321
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:34.239
I would like to see some really hungry, fresh, ideally

1322
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:38.039
younger people coming in there and who love Star Trek

1323
01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:40.600
but are willing to deepen and darken the mythos a bit.

1324
01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.279
I think that would really be a recipe for success.

1325
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.880
So what about your v I want to see a

1326
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:50.359
baseball game between the Romulan and the Klingons.

1327
01:17:57.960 --> 01:17:59.800
I don't even think they'd picked the first pitch. They

1328
01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:02.960
would just.

1329
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:07.640
But at some point you have to have a.

1330
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:15.840
Hollow version of of Renac saying it's a fake.

1331
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:17.880
The seventh didn't.

1332
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:22.880
Go, or have somebody in the stand saying God got

1333
01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:28.319
your got your fresh guy. Yeah.

1334
01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:33.000
For some reason, I keep getting this racial good uh

1335
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:37.159
remake kind of thing like getting her back toy of

1336
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.960
what happened when she went through that portal and what

1337
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:43.239
happened with the whole idea of.

1338
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:47.920
You know, I'm.

1339
01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:53.680
Assuming, okay my memory, did she actually die and going

1340
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:55.840
through the I can't really remember what they said.

1341
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:59.399
Now, implication is that she dies, yes, okay, so.

1342
01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:02.239
Maybe that she sure was captured and became concubine.

1343
01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:06.239
I mean it would put that in here. People love

1344
01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:08.520
the Ambassador class, so it would be cool to have

1345
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:11.920
like the entertris of the Enterprise. See yeah, I can

1346
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:12.279
see that.

1347
01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:14.279
See yeah, it'd be kind of an interesting series.

1348
01:19:14.359 --> 01:19:18.720
I think that. I think that Paramount plus being a streamer,

1349
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:21.640
if we're comparing it to Star Wars, I think they

1350
01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:23.920
have an opportunity to do a lot of different things.

1351
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:26.760
The question is are they open enough to do it?

1352
01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:30.039
You know, like, look at these these.

1353
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:32.920
We just gave Paramount plush a lot of ideas well.

1354
01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.640
Well, they're listening to the podcast right now. No, but

1355
01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:39.399
like you're talking about the Enterprise, see for instance, Uh,

1356
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:43.760
they could do a six episode mini series just you know,

1357
01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:46.000
on Rachel Garrett and the Enterprise and what happened at

1358
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:49.079
Nerendri three. If people would watch that it doesn't have

1359
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:52.960
to be a long, you know, five season thing. It

1360
01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:55.039
could be six and done like they did with Obi

1361
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:57.840
Wan and the Book of Boba Fat Well, we'll forget

1362
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.239
that one. But you know what I'm saying. You know,

1363
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:03.359
they could do these short, you know, six episode deals

1364
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:07.359
that focus on you know, historical parts like you know

1365
01:20:07.399 --> 01:20:10.199
what I would like to see, Actually, I would like

1366
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:13.640
to see a Wolf three five nine type of a

1367
01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:16.880
story because you know, all those ships that were slaughtered,

1368
01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:19.560
all the people that were lost the I would like

1369
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:23.159
to see. You know, we've never actually seen that. We've

1370
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:27.279
heard about it from people like Captain Shaw and whatnot,

1371
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:29.960
and we know about the ships, but to get to

1372
01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:32.319
know the people and see the people that were on

1373
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:34.960
those ships that were sent there, that went there to

1374
01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:38.479
defend the Federation and didn't come back. I mean, there's

1375
01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:43.880
so much they could do as short, six episode, many

1376
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:48.960
series type of things that it's endless, but they do it.

1377
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:53.079
Thinking of Wolf was it I'm trying to remember now,

1378
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:57.279
what was it that was it in the movie or

1379
01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:00.479
on one of the shows they have Wolf three five

1380
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:05.960
nine and apparently they snuck in the Millennium Falcon as one.

1381
01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:08.960
Of the ships first contact.

1382
01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:12.199
Was cont that's right, that's right, and I just I

1383
01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:15.239
was just watching that. I should have remembered that's been

1384
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.640
running on Pluto too, that that was funny.

1385
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:23.720
Apparently did j j Abram. They had a floating two

1386
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:32.000
D two go by at.

1387
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:30.840
You guys are ready to do some Star Trek birthdays.

1388
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:32.199
You're ready for some birthdays.

1389
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:56.840
There, let's see that was not all right, guys.

1390
01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:58.479
This is the part of our show where we do

1391
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:00.319
our Star Trek birthdays and we all I would like

1392
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:02.600
to start out by remembering those members of our Star

1393
01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:06.439
Trek family who, sadly enough, are no longer with us,

1394
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:10.079
and for that returned to Eric, take it away, Eric.

1395
01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:13.319
Yeah, Jim. This week we're going to remember eight members

1396
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:15.840
of our Star Trek community who have gone before us.

1397
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:20.840
The first is actress Joan Marshall. Joan Marshall is the

1398
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:24.760
actress who played Lieutenant A. Real Shaw in the TS

1399
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:29.720
first season episode Court Martiall. Marshall entered show business when

1400
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:33.199
she was hired as a show girl at Chicago's Say

1401
01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:37.159
Perrie at the very young age of fourteen years old. Wow,

1402
01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:40.720
and she began appearing in Las Vegas only two years later.

1403
01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:45.479
She was definitely a talented gal. Made ten feature films,

1404
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:50.800
but she only liked a few of them herself. Eventually

1405
01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:54.479
was signed by CBS and appeared on such television shows

1406
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:57.359
as The Jack Benny Program in The Red Skelton Hour.

1407
01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:00.520
She in fact had a real gift for comedy, which

1408
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:03.800
some people overlooked because she was considered quite a looker

1409
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:07.960
and they couldn't see past that. But in the nineteen

1410
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:11.119
seventies she did collaborate with her old school friend, the

1411
01:23:11.159 --> 01:23:17.000
award winning writer Dirk Wayne Summers, co scripting several sitcoms.

1412
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.079
She married film director Hal Ashby, and over the first

1413
01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:24.960
six months of their marriage and at his insistence, she

1414
01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:29.880
related personal experiences of her life that eventually would become

1415
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:33.399
the nineteen seventy five movie Shampoo, And she was not

1416
01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:37.000
very happy about her most details being put up on

1417
01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:40.720
screen for everybody to see. So that's too bad. She

1418
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:43.319
did end up in Jamaica, which she fell in love

1419
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:46.079
with later in life, and unfortunately we lost her all

1420
01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:47.720
the way back in nineteen ninety two at the young

1421
01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:50.159
age of sixty one years old. So happy birthday this

1422
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:54.600
week to Joan Marshall. Happy birthday as well to actor

1423
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.600
Gary Graham, who we just lost a little over a

1424
01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:00.159
year ago. He's the actor who played two roles on

1425
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:04.000
Star Trek, the Okampa Hannas in the Voyager second season

1426
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:07.920
episode Cold Fire, and the Vulcan ambassador so Vall on

1427
01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:12.279
all four seasons of Star Trek Enterprise. Graham was actually

1428
01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:15.399
once considered for the roles of both Benjamin Cisco and

1429
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:18.560
Captain Janeway, before the decision was made for Janeway to

1430
01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:21.319
be female and for Cisco to be an African American.

1431
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:23.880
Beyond the realm of Star Trek, He's probably best known,

1432
01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:28.000
of course, for playing Detective Matthew Sikes in Alien Nation,

1433
01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:31.319
one of Jim's favorite shows from nineteen eighty nine to

1434
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:34.720
nineteen ninety, and its spinoff television movies which happened in

1435
01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:39.319
the mid nineties. In twenty fourteen, Graham reprised his role

1436
01:24:39.359 --> 01:24:43.399
as so Vall in the fan made short film Prelude

1437
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:46.279
to Axinar, which of course starred a whole bunch of

1438
01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:51.520
other Star Trek people and changed the full naksand films

1439
01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:55.800
not for the best. Gary was also in a band

1440
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:58.279
called the Sons of Kirk and if you never got

1441
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:00.199
to see The Sons of Kurk too, bad because they

1442
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:03.840
were awesome. He did have a quote that I like

1443
01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:06.239
in particularly said, I'm one of those actors who's happy

1444
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:09.399
even when he's not working. I'm not a workaholic by

1445
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:12.079
any stretch of the imagination. My attitude has always been

1446
01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:15.239
to have a life first and then to go do

1447
01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:17.640
the work. And in fact, I actually got to hang

1448
01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:20.159
out with Gary Graham a little bit once when we

1449
01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:22.439
got to see the Star Trek the card premiere down

1450
01:25:22.520 --> 01:25:26.560
in Las Vegas. He was one of a group and

1451
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:29.199
I stood in the same circle asked him a couple

1452
01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:33.199
of questions. It was fun. Happy birthday to actor Gary Graham.

1453
01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:37.279
Happy birthday as well to Alan Scarfey, the British actor

1454
01:25:37.319 --> 01:25:39.920
who appeared in two episodes of the Next Generation and

1455
01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:43.159
in an episode of Voyager. He was the first actor

1456
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:47.520
who was cast and filmed scenes as the character Jabin.

1457
01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:52.600
You might remember the you know those awesome aliens from

1458
01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:56.119
Star Trek Voyager that we get off the bat there.

1459
01:25:57.159 --> 01:25:59.960
The role was later recast to somebody else. But he's

1460
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:03.279
probably best known for his starring role as doctor Bradley

1461
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:08.000
Talmage on Seven Days, which I've never seen, but apparently

1462
01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:11.840
he's well known for that. He was also had a

1463
01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:15.479
memorable guest appearance in Sequest DSV, which is a show

1464
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:17.640
that I think many of us like from nineteen ninety three,

1465
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:20.680
and in fact, they made a playmate toy of this guy.

1466
01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:22.880
I don't know if you've got a doctor Ruben Zeller,

1467
01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:26.079
not Paul, but apparently they mass produced that character from

1468
01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:31.640
Sequest DSV. So Happy Birthday to Ellen Alan Scarfee, Happy

1469
01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:35.560
birthday as well to Jesse Lawrence Ferguson, the actor who

1470
01:26:35.640 --> 01:26:38.960
appeared as Lieutan in the Next Generation first season episode

1471
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:43.880
Code of Honor. Well, you know, we all have our

1472
01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:48.520
opinions about that episode. This deep voice broke into show

1473
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:52.760
with a guest role on the popular television series starski

1474
01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:55.800
Ann Hutch from Back in nineteen seventy nine. That same year,

1475
01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:59.760
he landed his first film role in The Onion Field,

1476
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:04.199
which also starred Ronnie Cox. He appeared in lots of

1477
01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:08.159
other movies along the way, mostly in the eighties, but

1478
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:13.000
he's most well known for. His most well known role

1479
01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:16.119
occurred in the relative end of his career, when he

1480
01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:19.119
played a dirty cop in the nineteen ninety one film

1481
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:23.079
Boys in the Hood. Happy Birthday to Jesse Lawrence Ferguson.

1482
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:28.279
Happy Birthday to Bernie Terry Casey, who played Calvin Hudson

1483
01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:31.319
in The Deep Space nine second season episodes The Mackie

1484
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:34.760
Parts one and Part two. He was not a Star

1485
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:37.479
Trek fan when he was cast as Hudson. In a

1486
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:40.399
nineteen ninety four interview, he said, I did the Maquis

1487
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:44.479
because I wanted to work with Avery Books, whom I

1488
01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:48.359
admire as an actor. Before becoming an actor, of course,

1489
01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:51.359
Casey was a track and field champion and a professional

1490
01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:54.000
football player. He played for the National Football League San

1491
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:57.359
Francisco forty nine Ers from nineteen sixty one to nineteen

1492
01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:00.000
sixty six and the Los Angeles Rams from sixty six

1493
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:03.479
to sixty eight. But the thing I really dig about

1494
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.520
this guy was he was a big old football player,

1495
01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:08.680
but he was really an amazing, amazing painter. And in fact,

1496
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.880
he said if he could actually make a living painting,

1497
01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:15.960
he would have given up football in a second. So

1498
01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:18.279
I would. You can go check out some of his

1499
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:21.920
paintings online, which I encourage you to do. He was

1500
01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:24.800
also a member of the Screen Actors Guild, where he

1501
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:27.640
worked in several positions for the union and was voted

1502
01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:30.720
to serve as SAG National Board Alternate and to the

1503
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:36.079
Hollywood Division Board of Directors. Happy birthday to Bernie Terry Casey.

1504
01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:40.680
Happy birthday to James Darren, the actor, director, and stinger

1505
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:44.359
who played the holographic lounge singer Vic Fontaine in the

1506
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:48.439
sixth and seven seasons of Deep Space nine. Of course,

1507
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:52.119
he was a real life famous singer, Folks. If you

1508
01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:54.159
didn't know that, you probably could have guessed it, because

1509
01:28:54.199 --> 01:28:59.039
he's got quite the voice. After a short time taking

1510
01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:02.640
acting less at the beginning of his career, he met

1511
01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:07.479
Columbia Pictures talent agent Joyce Selznick, who gave him a

1512
01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:12.199
seven year contract with Columbia, and later on he moved

1513
01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:16.840
to Hollywood and started starring in films. Starred in nineteen

1514
01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:20.960
Columbia Films. The following year, he took his stage name

1515
01:29:21.079 --> 01:29:25.520
James Darren, which in fact came from the Kaiser Darren

1516
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:32.920
sports car. His original name is James William Ercolani. Several

1517
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:35.359
movies throughout the fifties, and in fact, this guy worked

1518
01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:38.079
through the sixties, through the seventies, through the eighties, and

1519
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:41.800
through the nineties. After Deep Space nine he pretty much

1520
01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:44.039
stopped acting though, so that was kind of the last

1521
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:46.880
and best that we ever saw of James Darren on screen.

1522
01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:51.439
We just lost him last September, not like less than

1523
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:53.800
a year ago, at age eighty eight years old. Happy

1524
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:58.119
birthday to James Darren. Happy birthday to Ed Bishop, who

1525
01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:00.680
lent his voice to the animated series his first season

1526
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:05.840
episode The Magics of Megas two and as Modius. Born

1527
01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:08.720
as George Victor Bishop in nineteen thirty two, he changed

1528
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:11.439
his name to Edward when he became a professional actor

1529
01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:14.800
because there was already another George Bishop out there. He

1530
01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:18.159
served in the Army in the early fifties and started

1531
01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:21.840
his professional acting career in nineteen sixty one. He was

1532
01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:23.920
based out of the UK for most of his career,

1533
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:26.239
and he's best known for his starring role as Commander

1534
01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:30.520
Ed Straker on the British science fiction series UFO. He

1535
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:33.279
also provided the voice of Captain Blue in the series

1536
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:37.960
Captain Scarlett and the Mistyrons. I've never seen.

1537
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:40.199
It, I don't know, mister Rons.

1538
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:43.720
Okay, there we go. Where I know Ed Bishop from

1539
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:46.439
other than Star Trek is of course. He appeared in

1540
01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:48.520
one of my favorite movies of all time, nineteen sixty

1541
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:50.840
eight sci fi classic two thousand and one, A Space

1542
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:55.039
Odyssey with fellow TOS guest starred Carry Lockwood. So a

1543
01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:58.199
happy Birthday to ed Bishop. And last, but not least,

1544
01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:02.319
on our remembrance list, folks, we have actress Herda Where.

1545
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:05.760
She's the actress who played Yavette Picard in the Next

1546
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:09.079
Generation first season episode where No One Has Gone Before.

1547
01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:12.399
She was a guitarist and a folk singer in the Washington,

1548
01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:15.399
DC area and moved to New York and began acting

1549
01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:20.000
in the early nineteen thirties. She was in fact blacklisted

1550
01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:23.079
by Hollywood during the McCarthy ERAa for taking the Fifth

1551
01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:27.199
Amendment and refusing to testify before the House on American

1552
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:31.960
Activities Committee, which would lead to financial hardship and unfortunately

1553
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:35.960
the loss of her home. Where's perhaps best known for

1554
01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:39.960
her part as Rosie in nineteen eighty five's Cocoon. She

1555
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:45.159
AHFSA had a role in twenty ten speaking of Stanley

1556
01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:49.680
Kruber movies as Jesse Bowman, astronaut Dave Bowman's mother Gear

1557
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:54.199
and where co founded the Will Gear Theatricum Botanicum on

1558
01:31:54.319 --> 01:31:58.720
their Topanga Canyon property. The veteran actress published her own

1559
01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:04.039
memoir called Fantastic Journey My Life with Will Gear in

1560
01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:06.880
two thousand. We lost her to Wear back in two

1561
01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:09.439
thousand and five at the ripe old age of eighty

1562
01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:14.039
eight years old. Happy birthday to her to to and

1563
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:17.079
that does it far? Rememberan says folks. So Paul, I'm

1564
01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:20.279
going to quickly excuse me. Via is next ye, I'm

1565
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:22.159
going to pass this birthday candle over to.

1566
01:32:22.119 --> 01:32:26.560
You, and if I can add, his name escapes me.

1567
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:31.159
But I just saw that the gentleman who portrayed Mariska

1568
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:34.399
in duet in DS nine passed away.

1569
01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:38.239
Yeah, I think we may remember him next week.

1570
01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:41.439
I noticed that okay, okay and her to Wear and

1571
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:50.560
Will Gear's daughter Ellen Gear was in TNG as doctor

1572
01:32:50.600 --> 01:32:54.600
who's whatever her name I'm forgetting names the episode where

1573
01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:58.640
that she kills who ends up killing the crystal crystalline entity.

1574
01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:00.840
So yeah, is that connection?

1575
01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:02.640
Does that mean?

1576
01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:03.159
All right?

1577
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:14.399
So let me get to my birthday? Rose s Portland, Oregon. Yeah,

1578
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:19.239
ballad a k A, that's the board jet Lion six

1579
01:33:19.319 --> 01:33:21.199
station ashes to ask.

1580
01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:23.960
Well if we don't get and then Alicia.

1581
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:30.239
And Bell, Jennifer Sisto alright, marriage Jennifer Cisco and Star

1582
01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:32.000
Trek Okay face.

1583
01:33:31.960 --> 01:33:36.720
Nine Okay, friends, thank you so much. Today's back.

1584
01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:43.000
Did we lost it there for a couple of n

1585
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:45.920
I'm having connection problems to lose me again?

1586
01:33:47.239 --> 01:33:51.520
Yeah we did? We did? We need both your birthdays? Yeah?

1587
01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:52.399
Sorry about that?

1588
01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:05.560
All right? So v is going to do her birthdays? Yeah.

1589
01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:12.760
Shoot, this is a live show. We never know what's

1590
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:17.840
going to happen, right, I've seen I've seen pets explode

1591
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:21.600
on this show at both ends. I mean, it's all right.

1592
01:34:22.079 --> 01:34:23.720
My WiFi was fine.

1593
01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:24.319
Can you hear me?

1594
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:26.439
Now? Yeah? We can?

1595
01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:29.680
We can't, ye am, I there're okay?

1596
01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:33.079
Yeah, so did you did you? Okay for the moment,

1597
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:36.239
I don't know. I'm just having all sorts of issues

1598
01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:38.399
with the Wi fi was fine and it's just been

1599
01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:40.720
glitching out. So did you hear anything?

1600
01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:41.199
I said?

1601
01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:44.800
No, go to do your birthdays?

1602
01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:50.720
Okay, all right, let's try this again. All right, Happy birthday.

1603
01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:52.600
On the seventh of June ninth.

1604
01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:55.399
All right, okay, okay, all.

1605
01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:57.840
Right, Okay, here we go a couple of big ones here.

1606
01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:01.840
It's exciting whenever we welcome somebody that's new to the

1607
01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:03.880
Star Trek universe. And that is what we're doing. We

1608
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:08.279
are given this gentleman, massively deserved birthday props and we

1609
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:09.399
haven't even seen.

1610
01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:09.960
His role yet.

1611
01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:14.680
His role is still mystery, but incredibly, I mean, this

1612
01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:16.960
is a big get for Star Trek. This is a

1613
01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:19.960
heck of a piece of casting the great Paul Giamatti,

1614
01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:24.720
who's having a birthday. I don't have his birth date here,

1615
01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:26.640
but he is going to be joining the up and

1616
01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:32.920
coming Star Trek Starfleet Academy as the main antagonist being

1617
01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:38.039
featured in the first season. It's a recurring role. Sounds

1618
01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:41.000
like maybe a little bit of a sinister, villainous figure

1619
01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:44.279
with the connection to one of the cadets in the Academy.

1620
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:46.760
We're not really sure, but I can tell you what

1621
01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:49.079
I am sure about it is that Paul Giamatti is

1622
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:53.159
one of the greatest living actors that we have. My

1623
01:35:53.399 --> 01:35:55.560
first picture I saw him in was a movie called

1624
01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:58.880
Sideways back in two thousand and four, and it's a

1625
01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:04.079
spectacular comic. He's just great. It plays a lot of challenging,

1626
01:36:04.399 --> 01:36:09.119
difficult characters, but always with such poignancy and such emotion.

1627
01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:14.000
He's just amazing. A great picture called The Holdovers, and

1628
01:36:14.159 --> 01:36:18.159
if you are a Netflix subscriber, you can see him

1629
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:21.840
in a really amazing episode of Black Mirror that just

1630
01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:24.399
debuted a few weeks ago, so it's just in the

1631
01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:29.640
most current season of that, but just spectacular performer. He's

1632
01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:34.079
just the best, really really really great and always shows

1633
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:37.199
up just ready to go. The fact that he is

1634
01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:40.199
going to be on a Star Trek show with Holly Hunter, right,

1635
01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:44.199
this blows my mind. So a lot of heavy talent there,

1636
01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:47.880
but mister Gimotti is just a delight God. I would

1637
01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:50.479
just plot if we could get him on this show,

1638
01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:54.319
that would be the mother of all gets. He's absolutely amazing.

1639
01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:58.399
So huge fan again, Paul Giamatti. Welcome to Star Trek

1640
01:36:58.479 --> 01:37:04.640
and happy birthday. Speaking of classics and luminaries, it's a

1641
01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:10.960
great pleasure to say happy birthday to delightful Adrian Barbeau. Okay, wow,

1642
01:37:11.079 --> 01:37:14.800
Adrian barbou Yanes was on Star Trek. I think we forgot.

1643
01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:18.239
She played Senator Cretac in the Deep Space nine seventh

1644
01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:23.079
season episode inter Arma aam silent Liges right, which is

1645
01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:27.920
a mouthful, to be sure, but a wonderful presence of course.

1646
01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:30.399
I think the world fell in love with Adrian Barbeau

1647
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:34.880
in her early work in the John Carpenter films. Memorably,

1648
01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:37.119
but way back in nineteen eighty one An Escape from

1649
01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:40.800
New York right, and then, oh my god, what did

1650
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:44.560
they do? Right? And that picture holds up a like

1651
01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:47.600
a you know, like a medieval castle. I mean, it's

1652
01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:50.119
just amazing. It's such a good picture. And one of

1653
01:37:50.159 --> 01:37:53.439
my favorite movies that she did was she played this

1654
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:59.359
jockey Stevie Wayne in also John Carpenter's amazing tribute to

1655
01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:04.039
the films of Alfred Hitchcock The Fog. It's just spectacular,

1656
01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:07.520
really really, yeah, those two John Carpenter movies. He was

1657
01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:10.359
at the height of his powers, I think, or moving

1658
01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:12.119
into the height of his powers. I don't know that

1659
01:38:12.119 --> 01:38:17.239
he's ever slowed down, but uh and uh, and had

1660
01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:20.960
good sense to have Adrian Barbo at his side during

1661
01:38:20.960 --> 01:38:24.760
those early productions. But a huge fan of her work.

1662
01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:28.680
She does comedy as well, has done all kinds of

1663
01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:32.520
great genre work and it's just a delight. So Adrian Barbo,

1664
01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:36.359
it's great that you're in Star Trek, and happy birthday

1665
01:38:36.640 --> 01:38:39.000
to you. So that's all I've got. I'm doing a

1666
01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.319
little shorter run on my birthdays this week, but super

1667
01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:45.680
excited to hear what Uncle Jim. Uncle Jim's got two

1668
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:48.960
serious heavy hitters on his list this week, big time.

1669
01:38:50.399 --> 01:38:52.000
If we can get V back, if we have V

1670
01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:54.880
back there, yeah, can.

1671
01:38:54.760 --> 01:38:55.119
You hear me?

1672
01:38:56.600 --> 01:38:56.920
Okay?

1673
01:38:56.960 --> 01:38:57.279
Good?

1674
01:38:57.680 --> 01:38:58.000
All right?

1675
01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:02.000
Also, Adrian Barbo was all on Maud playing Maud's daughter.

1676
01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:04.159
That was back in the seventies.

1677
01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:07.159
I remember seeing herr in self Section show.

1678
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:11.960
So and also in the X Files.

1679
01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:13.880
All right, so let's say if I can befo while

1680
01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:17.039
my internet is still on? All right? So, Happy birthday

1681
01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:23.279
to Kim Rhodes and actress from Portland, Oregon born June seventh,

1682
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.680
nineteen sixty nine, who appeared in Voyagers in Ensign Lindsay

1683
01:39:27.720 --> 01:39:33.119
Ballard aka the Kabbali Jetliah in the sixth season episode

1684
01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:36.880
Ashes to Ashes, the one that Harry Kim had a

1685
01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:42.439
crush on, and then Felicia M. Bell born on June twelfth,

1686
01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:48.479
nineteen sixty played Jennifer Cisco in the Mirror Universe Jennifer

1687
01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:52.000
Cisco and star Trek Vith nine. Happy birthday to all.

1688
01:39:52.279 --> 01:39:54.560
Thank you so much, feed We're glad we got you back.

1689
01:39:56.600 --> 01:40:01.800
Me too, do the Klingons. But I guess you could

1690
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:05.119
say this next guy is yeah, he could be a Klingon.

1691
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:09.199
We want to say happy birthday to the incredible, the awesome,

1692
01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:14.399
the talented, the often evil Jason Isaacs, who was born

1693
01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:17.239
on June sixth, nineteen sixty three. He's the British actor

1694
01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:21.600
who portrayed Captain Gabriel Lorca in their first season of

1695
01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:26.359
Star Trek Discovery. My god, was he awesome. The remember

1696
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:29.239
how much fun we had talking about his character, trying

1697
01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:33.680
to figure everything out about him. Just awesome. I remember

1698
01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:36.600
meeting him at a Star Trek convention. I'm online there.

1699
01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:40.039
All the kids are waving wands around and dressed up

1700
01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:43.600
in Harry Potter and there I am as a klingonly

1701
01:40:43.640 --> 01:40:45.279
out of place. I had no idea that he was

1702
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:48.079
in Harry Potter. I only knew that he was in

1703
01:40:48.159 --> 01:40:49.720
Star Trek. Great guy.

1704
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:53.079
Have you seen him on Jim? Have you seen him

1705
01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:53.880
on White Lotuses?

1706
01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:56.600
Ye? Yes, yes I did. I did see him on

1707
01:40:56.640 --> 01:40:57.079
White Load.

1708
01:40:57.520 --> 01:40:59.840
He's in like every episode and he just kills it.

1709
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:03.239
Edible, he really is. He was also in a movie

1710
01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:05.199
that V was talking about a couple of weeks ago,

1711
01:41:05.479 --> 01:41:10.000
The Patriot and Shock and Dismay. He's a bad guy.

1712
01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:17.279
He plays great bad guys. So happy birthday to Jason Isaacs.

1713
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:21.159
This next one I had the pleasure of meeting him

1714
01:41:21.199 --> 01:41:24.039
at Trek Honnor Roga, and he was just great to

1715
01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:27.760
talk to. We want to say Happy birthday to the

1716
01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:33.680
incredibly talented, all over the spectrum guy Carl Urbin, who

1717
01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:37.319
was born on June seventh, nineteen seventy two. He's a

1718
01:41:37.319 --> 01:41:40.439
New Zealand actor who played doctor Leonard McCoy in Star

1719
01:41:40.479 --> 01:41:43.439
Trek two thousand and nine, Star Trek Into Darkness and

1720
01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:46.720
Star Trek Beyond. He's best known for his role as

1721
01:41:46.760 --> 01:41:50.039
Billy Butcher and The Boys, im Ar and Lord of

1722
01:41:50.039 --> 01:41:53.640
the Rings, The Two Towers, and of course he played

1723
01:41:53.720 --> 01:41:57.560
Dread and a plethora of other movies. He's been the

1724
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:02.640
Marvel movies. He's been all over the place. Carl Urban.

1725
01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:06.359
I think he was perfectly cast as doctor McCoy on

1726
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:09.640
Star Trek. In fact, I can't see anybody but him

1727
01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:14.439
playing McCoy. He does it, just nailed that role. He's perfect.

1728
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:17.479
So happy birthday to Carl. Oh and if you guys

1729
01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:24.239
have never seen The Boys, Boimler is in it as well,

1730
01:42:24.279 --> 01:42:28.920
and you'll get to hear Carl Urban talk and say

1731
01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:33.079
things that McCoy would never say or do on Star Trek.

1732
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:36.319
It's a complete departure from what we know him as

1733
01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:40.039
the boys. So happy birthday and I always saved the

1734
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:44.239
Klingons for last, and I have a Klingon here. We

1735
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:48.600
want to say a claw and happy birthday to Sherman Howard.

1736
01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:50.840
And there he is up on the screen. He was

1737
01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:54.079
born in June eleventh, nineteen forty nine. He appeared as

1738
01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:58.760
Endar and the TG four season episode Suddenly Human. Yes,

1739
01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:01.479
Will appeared as savah Are in the DS nine thursdayson

1740
01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:05.479
episode Shakhar. But I'm remembering him as playing to breath

1741
01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:08.680
the kling On in the Star Trek Voyager seventh season

1742
01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:14.359
episode Prophecy. And that, my friends, wraps up our Star

1743
01:43:14.439 --> 01:43:18.159
Trek birthdays for this week. And now it's time to

1744
01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:23.439
go into some Star Trek news. And do I have

1745
01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:27.760
the clip for that? I thought I did. I don't.

1746
01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:30.920
I lost our clip for Star Trek News. I don't

1747
01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:31.560
know where it went.

1748
01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:41.920
I think that's okay, all right, all right, hit it,

1749
01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:47.159
all right, it's time for our favorite segment. Shatner says,

1750
01:43:47.199 --> 01:43:52.840
what William Shatner makes a planetary plead to Trump an

1751
01:43:52.920 --> 01:44:02.159
Elon Musk make great again? LORDI legendary actor Walliam said,

1752
01:44:05.239 --> 01:44:07.199
I read the title, and I'm like, oh my god.

1753
01:44:08.079 --> 01:44:11.399
Legendary actor William Shatner wants President Trump to restore Pluto

1754
01:44:11.479 --> 01:44:15.199
to greatness, as scientists claim to have found a new

1755
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:19.560
ninth planet. So there's a tenth planet that was found

1756
01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:22.600
in our solar system. Star Trek's Captain Kirk ninety four

1757
01:44:22.680 --> 01:44:25.319
wrote on X I suggest that we get Trump to

1758
01:44:25.399 --> 01:44:28.000
name it, and while he is at it, restore Pluto

1759
01:44:28.079 --> 01:44:31.039
as a planet and put an end to the Union's

1760
01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:36.279
tyranny of the most through. The two time Emmy Award

1761
01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:40.680
winner The Boston Legal Star then suggested his fans recruit

1762
01:44:40.760 --> 01:44:44.000
ex owner Eli Musk to quote get the President to

1763
01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:47.159
sign one of those executive thingies to make Pluto a

1764
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:48.159
planet again.

1765
01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:49.359
Cheers.

1766
01:44:51.039 --> 01:44:54.000
Some repliers express doubt that the President of the United

1767
01:44:54.039 --> 01:44:56.880
States had jurisdiction in matters of the stars, but Shatner

1768
01:44:56.960 --> 01:44:59.720
suggested the final frontier of Trump's authority has yet to

1769
01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:04.880
be explored. Say who he renamed Gulf and the astronomer

1770
01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:09.000
who discovered Pluto was American. Seems like America has jurisdiction

1771
01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:14.439
on things outside its borders, Shatner wrote, adding the expressionless emoji.

1772
01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:18.680
The Rocketman's singer was riled by a new study that

1773
01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:22.439
claimed to have discovered a far off, an entirely theoretical

1774
01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:26.800
celestial body that some believe qualifies as the ninth planet

1775
01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:31.239
in our dear Solar System. He slammed the corrupt nerds

1776
01:45:31.359 --> 01:45:35.720
on a power trip at the International Astronomical Union who

1777
01:45:35.760 --> 01:45:40.920
were exercising a quote tyranny of the cosmos, pretending to

1778
01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:44.079
name any new planet discovered by scientists, and voting to

1779
01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:48.199
demote Pluto in two thousand and six. Shatner believes they

1780
01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:51.479
have no basis for their authority and could be trumped

1781
01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:54.600
by the president. By the way, why do they need

1782
01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:58.000
a union, Shatner asked on one of his ex threads.

1783
01:45:58.359 --> 01:46:00.960
It's not like anyone would care if they went on strike.

1784
01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:04.079
Maybe it's to prevent bullying, you know.

1785
01:46:04.800 --> 01:46:07.399
I just love that history on so many levels, and

1786
01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:09.399
it just it's it reeks of Shatner.

1787
01:46:11.439 --> 01:46:14.000
Is it the Is there a more Shatner story that

1788
01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:16.960
we've told in the last like year or so than

1789
01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:19.479
this one? This one is just so off the rails.

1790
01:46:19.479 --> 01:46:24.319
I can't even. I just can't even. By the way,

1791
01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:29.000
in case anybody's interested, Pluto's not a planet because it

1792
01:46:29.039 --> 01:46:32.520
doesn't meet the third requirement for planet status set up

1793
01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:35.359
by the International Astronomical Union in two thousand and six.

1794
01:46:35.880 --> 01:46:38.680
To classify as a planet, an object must one orbit

1795
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:42.279
the Sun okay, check that, two be rounded by its

1796
01:46:42.319 --> 01:46:46.119
own gravity check that, and three have cleared its orbital

1797
01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:51.119
path of other objects. While Pluto meets the first two criteria,

1798
01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:54.199
it resides in the Kuiper Belt, an area with many

1799
01:46:54.279 --> 01:46:58.640
other icy bodies, meaning it hasn't gravitationally cleared its neighborhood.

1800
01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:01.960
So literally, wa, wait man, wait a minute, Mars in

1801
01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:03.359
the middle of the asteroid belt.

1802
01:47:03.640 --> 01:47:07.640
No, it's not. The asteroid occurs between Mars and Jupiter.

1803
01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:11.920
It's not. It's close enough that it's No, you need

1804
01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:12.800
to check your astronomy.

1805
01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:16.600
It's not enough.

1806
01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:20.079
Not even that was That was a two thousand and

1807
01:47:20.119 --> 01:47:22.319
six argument. Dudes, that's nineteen years old.

1808
01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:25.840
Has his own moon, so technically is not all the

1809
01:47:25.840 --> 01:47:27.680
way out there with the other object.

1810
01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:30.640
I don't like them red counting my Solar system. It's

1811
01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:32.119
like every textbook I grew up with.

1812
01:47:33.119 --> 01:47:35.479
Have you been angry about it for the last nineteen years,

1813
01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:36.520
I've been angry.

1814
01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:39.199
About a lot. Oh listen, if they if Trump can

1815
01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:43.399
rename the Gulf of America. He can name a planet, right.

1816
01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:46.079
Oh my god, he's named it. He's gonna name it

1817
01:47:46.079 --> 01:47:48.840
after the planet my god.

1818
01:47:51.720 --> 01:47:54.399
But no, there's already a planet named your.

1819
01:47:58.800 --> 01:47:59.880
That's the Trump planet.

1820
01:48:00.279 --> 01:48:01.399
Well playing my friend.

1821
01:48:02.920 --> 01:48:06.159
All right, Well, let's see if Paul can trump this

1822
01:48:06.359 --> 01:48:07.560
article with his.

1823
01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:13.960
It has been stewing in the back of my mind.

1824
01:48:14.319 --> 01:48:16.000
I thought we should get this out of the way first,

1825
01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:19.920
real quickly. I think Jim, maybe with a droit turn

1826
01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:23.039
of phrase earlier, may have given what to me seems

1827
01:48:23.119 --> 01:48:27.159
like something. It could be a name for the the

1828
01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:31.439
first official Trek talking and beyond drink. Right, we just

1829
01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:33.600
need to figure out what it what it should contain.

1830
01:48:34.359 --> 01:48:37.479
But when Jim said earlier in the show, a shelf

1831
01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:43.039
full of shatters to me, I want to go to

1832
01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:44.760
the bar and I want to order, I'd like a

1833
01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:48.279
show full of shit, Just know what I mean? Right?

1834
01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:51.239
So I think I think we need to work on that,

1835
01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:54.600
and maybe our fans on the Facebook page help us

1836
01:48:54.640 --> 01:48:57.479
come up with some ideas. But that's too good not

1837
01:48:57.560 --> 01:48:58.479
to exploit.

1838
01:48:58.600 --> 01:49:01.239
James, well done.

1839
01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:04.279
And let's go over here into the world of comics

1840
01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:07.079
because our good pals and Star Trek enthusiasts at IDW

1841
01:49:07.199 --> 01:49:12.319
are giving us a first look at start Wow just

1842
01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:16.439
kick in Red Shirts and Strange New Worlds both together,

1843
01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:18.680
because Star Trek fans can get a look at what

1844
01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:22.000
IDW Publishing has in store for new titles featuring both

1845
01:49:22.079 --> 01:49:26.199
Red Shirts and more Strange New worlds. A new era

1846
01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:29.279
of Star Trek Publishing is about to gear up. Two

1847
01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:32.840
of the new limited series spinning out of Star Trek Omega,

1848
01:49:33.239 --> 01:49:36.920
which is wrapping itself up shortly, are Star Trek Red

1849
01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:38.960
Shirts and Star Trek Strange New Worlds. I feel like

1850
01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:43.560
I've repeated that same sentence seventh, say it again, Star Trek.

1851
01:49:43.880 --> 01:49:45.680
Do you know that very soon we'll be talking about

1852
01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:48.119
Star Trek Red Shirts and Star Trek Strange New Worlds? Well,

1853
01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:51.239
it's Star.

1854
01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:52.199
Trek Shirts and Star Trek Exchange New Worlds and.

1855
01:49:52.359 --> 01:49:56.760
After one more show full of shatners, Okay, Strange New Worlds.

1856
01:49:57.039 --> 01:50:01.439
The Seeds of Destruction launching in July and August, respectively,

1857
01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:05.039
So that means Star Trek Red Shirts is July and

1858
01:50:05.159 --> 01:50:09.319
Strange New World Seeds of Destruction is August, hence the respectively.

1859
01:50:11.079 --> 01:50:13.319
This article, which I'm not able to show you because

1860
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:16.600
this is not this I'm reading from Frint. It says

1861
01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:18.760
we have a first hand look at covers, but we

1862
01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:22.039
don't because we're reading. The Red Shirts are the nameless

1863
01:50:22.039 --> 01:50:24.880
individuals who are sadly used as cannon fodder in Star

1864
01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:28.720
Trek stories, and the preview demonstrates this as we watch

1865
01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:33.159
different ways killed off. Sounds great, right there. David's got

1866
01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:36.000
some up there for us. Very nice, David, excellent. Those

1867
01:50:36.039 --> 01:50:38.399
Patreon members, all three of you can now take a

1868
01:50:38.399 --> 01:50:42.000
look at this. See as for Star Trek Strange New

1869
01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:44.840
World Seeds of Destruction, we see Chapel Una, law On

1870
01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:48.760
and gathered around a table as they have a tense discussion,

1871
01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:52.399
and then travel alongside them as they travel around a

1872
01:50:52.439 --> 01:50:58.760
strange new world. Startrek Redshirts was written by right Christopher Cantwell.

1873
01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:02.199
This Megan Livins, featuring a brand new team of characters.

1874
01:51:02.479 --> 01:51:05.000
The Red Shirts are commonly knows Starfleet's fearless and doom

1875
01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:09.920
crew members. Now these intrepident, ill fated, red uniformed individuals

1876
01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:12.880
finally get their own story, and no one is safe

1877
01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:16.479
who will survive their deadly mission. Star Trek Red Shirts

1878
01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:19.840
is in honor of the nameless, vaporized and cinerited and

1879
01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:24.000
otherwise blown apart? Are they the main characters of a

1880
01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:27.439
Star Trek style suicide mission unlike any other kind of

1881
01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:31.079
a suicide squad? Tepee Now I'm with you, Catwell said,

1882
01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:34.399
we will get to know these ens lieutenants intimately before

1883
01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:38.039
they are likewise this record and suck in the space.

1884
01:51:38.960 --> 01:51:41.439
Who will survive and what will be left of them?

1885
01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:43.920
Will any of them? And what is the true nature

1886
01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:47.239
of their planet side mission to hunt down mysterious spies?

1887
01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:50.520
Will it be better than section thirty one the movie?

1888
01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:53.680
This is a major melody Original Series era story in

1889
01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:56.439
the Key of Death, one I wanted to tell for years,

1890
01:51:56.920 --> 01:52:01.399
equal parts fun and harrowing, subversive and laboratory of the

1891
01:52:01.439 --> 01:52:05.600
boldest tunic color one could wear in Starfleet Security.

1892
01:52:05.720 --> 01:52:07.760
Right, I love it.

1893
01:52:08.159 --> 01:52:08.520
I love it.

1894
01:52:09.479 --> 01:52:11.399
It's great one. This is one that Paul sent me

1895
01:52:11.479 --> 01:52:14.840
and I liked it, So we're gonna throw it up here.

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Star Trek Collectibles a new Batle pizza cutter and there

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it is, right there on the screen. What do you

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guys think about the flames that David put in the background?

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Is that is that kling Honi? I thought it was

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a UK based raven Forge has announced a new Klingon

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Batlift pizza cutter, made from stainless steel, measuring an impressive

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seventeen point five inches that's forty four point five centimeters.

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Rereferencing the original next generation design for shaping, the Raven

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Forge design moves its handles to the inner curve and

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moves the blade to the outer curve to allow for

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a grip, inverting the on screen orientation as can be

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seen in the picture on the right. Introducing the officially

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licensed Startrek Batlet Pizza Cutter, an epic fusion of fandom

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and function. Designed in collaboration with Paramount, using only original

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drawings from nineteen ninety, This collector's piece is crafted to

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boldly go where no pizza cutter has gone before a

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shelf full of shatters. Inspired by the iconic Klingon, a

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weapon from Star Trek universe, the Batlet Pizza Cutter features

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a stainless steel blade honed for precision and ready for action.

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Use it as a rocker blade to guide cleanly through

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your pizzas no drag toppings in dishonor just smooth slices

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of culinary glory. I must have for every Star Trek

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fans gallery stainless steel blade dishwasher safe plastic candles with

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leather looking grip food safe measures forty four centimeters by

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twenty five centimeters and you can have one for forty

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nine dollars. They're available now for order. And that, my friends,

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I think, Yeah, that's going to wrap up our show

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for tonight.

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So, Jim, have you.

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Getting a couple of them to wear on my cling

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on costume?

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You need to get the pizza. If you don't get

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the pizza cutter, I'm not sure I can respect you anymore.

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Shatners. And we could, you know, let's get a we

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need a food thing. We can have people come up

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with the recipe what is cling on pizza? That people

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can make it home that and then we can have

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a I think we're moving into a.

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Show like the wine Tasting show.

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You know, Yeah, I'm liking you have to drive down

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to Virginia.

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Yeah, pizza cutting, quing on blind Shatner shelfing thing.

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Words words.

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I think next week.

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Oh, by the way, I have reached out to Robin Curtis.

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You guys may remember we reviewed the AI, a movie

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fan film Thingyma bob Er called Unification on the show.

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Robin Curtis is going to be up in Tykona Roga

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showing that film on the bridge of the Enterprise and

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talking about it. I've reached out to her to see

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if she'd be willing to come on the podcast with

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us and talk about it, So I'll keep you guys

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in the loop and there's a pretty good chance that

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we'll be able to make that happen. So as soon

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as I hear back from her, I'll let you know

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when she'll be on. So there's that. Next week we're

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going to be doing lower decks. We're going to continue

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our comic corner so that I o't to make the happy

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I believe it's issue six and seven, am I correct? Yeah,

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Episode six and seven. And then because Paul brought this

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up and I thought this was a great idea, we

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are going to do a Space nineteen ninety nine show

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after that, and.

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To keep just finish episode five.

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Things very simple. Because it was two seasons, forty eight episodes.

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I'm recommending that all the truck Sperts watched Breakaway, which

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is the season one premiere pilot episode, and we will

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focus on talking about that episode in particular. However, season

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two changes drastically from season one. There's a lot of changes,

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a lot of new characters, some things. So I plan

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on talking about the entire series, but I want to

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talk a lot about episode one. That way all of

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us will be on the same page and we can

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spread out to talk about, you know, the tunnels under

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the Moon whatever.

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We recommend two other episodes just for interested parties. It's

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just like if you had to only pick three from

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the entire series. Breakaway of course, which is great, but

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one is called Voyager's Return, which is excellent, like great

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side fi, really really good. And for my money, what

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is one of the most disturbing and scary science fiction

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shows I ever saw as a kid growing up. Dragon's Domain.

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It will freak you out. It's very disturbing and incredibly Is.

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That the episode that has Brian Blessed bolt Hand from

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Flash Gordon in it?

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No, that one was a little earlier in season one.

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I think the Ultimate Thuley episode. I'm trying to remember

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what the title of the episode was, but that's a

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really good one too. It's really I can't remember the

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name of it, but it was a really good.

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I don't remember all So we're going to have something.

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Yeah, because Brian Blessed then came back in season two

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and he was like Maya as well the wor right,

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yeah yeah in the second the second performance in the

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season two he did yeah, but he had he played

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another role. It was even better in season one. So yeah,

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but it's a fun show. A lot of people uh

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never watched it and missed out, but if you grew

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up with it, it's it's super fun and a bit

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of a train rack at time, but but man, it's

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it's gonna be fun to talk about. So I'll put

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some a list together for folks, and and.

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Yeah, we're gonna go We're gonna go beyond. We're gonna

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go beyond Star Trek to Space nineteen ninety nine. So

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those are the next two shows. And I'm I'm emailing

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Alex Deal to see if we can reschedule to get

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him back on a future show. So that, my friends,

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wraps up the whole show for this week. So I

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just want to take an opportunity to say thank you

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to to V for hanging out and trek talking with

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us tonight. Thank you so much for be okay, and

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thank you so much. Her face, I'm like, I can't.

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Know she's got when you need.

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It, So thank you so much for hanging out, Trek

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talking there. No, nope, yeah, nope, she's back back, okay,

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all right, And of course thank you so much to

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Paul for hanging out and Trek talking with us tonight.

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Thank you, Paul, and of course thank you Eric for

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hanging out. Now. We don't want ve to feel left out,

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so from this point on we're all going to be

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frozen and we'll just move our lips so that v

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so people don't feel so thank you so much to

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Eric for hanging out and Trek talking with us tonight.

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Thank you, Eric. And thank you so much to David,

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not only for hanging out and trek talking with us,

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but for all those awesome graphics and videos. Thank you

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so much, David.

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I'm excellent host.

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Oh my god, I gotta say to everybody, thank you

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so much, and please start. Your fans are the best fans.

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Stay safe and be good to each other. Hailing frequencies

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are closed. Good night, everybody.

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Mhm, you're not.

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Healthy, everybody.

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Alsatians. I'm ready for departure, sir. Some problem RIGHTA. Just

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hoping this isn't the usual way our missions will go.

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Sir oh no Number what I'm sure most will be

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much more interesting.

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Let's see what's out there.

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Engage