Episode 705- The End of Oak Street-Dinosaurs and Time Travel: What Happened Next?

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1:27 Hey, just in time for Halloween. Hey guys, welcome to the Trek Talk and Beyond. It is Thursday, October 22nd, 2026, episode 705. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. And before we dive in, I'd like to go around and introduce my incredible, my awesome Trek experts. We'll start out with Vivi. She's in Virginia. How are you doing, Vivi? I'm doing great. It's got the cooler weather. The leaves are turning. Life is good. Life is good. I can attest to that. Life is definitely good. And we're going to jump out to Las Vegas and we're going to say hello to Charles. How are you doing tonight, Charles?

2:12 I'm doing all right. Stuck in Studio A because we've got a storm passing over us. Chance of rain, chance of thunder, wind. Better to be inside today. But the weather's cooled down, so it's nice. It has cooled down. It has cooled down. And we're going to swing out to Portland, and we're going to say hello to our miracle worker, David. How are you doing tonight, David? I'm pretty chilly with the cold weather coming in. I'm pretty sad, though, because I'm out of cookies and milk, so I don't know what to do with this. I bet you the Tribble ate it. No, I definitely did. I'm just out.

2:55 And sticking with our Portland theme, we're going to welcome Eric to the show. How are you doing tonight, Eric? I'm doing pretty good. You know, I, I am digging the cooler weather. I'm liking that. Um, but just like personally and professionally this week has felt a little bit like I've been being chased by dinosaurs. So, um, try to do what I can to somehow escape the inescapable, my guess. I hear that. And, uh, Paul, who's also out in Portland, we'll be joining us a little bit later and. I'm going to try to stay awake for this podcast. Um, I went back to work this week after my heart attack, and I'm working four hours a day, and it's kicking my ass. I am tired. I'm usually in bed and sleeping by 7, so this is going to be a stretch for me, but I think I can make it. If you guys missed any of our past shows, you can go and find them all at trektalking.com, and there's a little green talkback mic in.

3:55 The bottom right-hand corner. You can click on that and leave us a message. Tell us how wonderful Eric's hair is, you know, that V's not blue today, whatever. And we'll play that message on the very next podcast. So please do that. You can help support TrekTalk in two ways. One, you can go to our Facebook page, TrekTalk at Ambion, and subscribe for only 99 cents. If that's too steep for you, you can just go over to our Facebook page and like and follow all of our posts because that helps us build our algorithm. So with that out of the way, tonight we're going to be talking about a movie that Paul introduced us to on his big sci-fi summer extravaganza show that we did a couple of months ago. And one of the movies he stuck in there at the end was The End of Oak Street by J.J.

4:50 Abrams. And uh we went uh my wife and i went to see it um imax and so i wanted to talk about that so we're going to do that to me but that's not all we have for you guys we also have our fan shout outs that's where we go around the globe we thank fans just like you for supporting our podcast and you can also find out what sci-fi actors you share a birthday with on our sci-fi birthday segment and of course let's not forget uncle jim's movie pick of the week dun dun dun And last but not least, what's going on around the Star Trek universe? We have a couple stories for you tonight. Unfortunately, Star Trek lost another family member, and Eric's going to tell you all about that. So that's my spiel, and it's time to dive right in without any further ado.

5:42 Time for some fan shout-outs. You want to get us started, Eric? Yeah, man. Our very first fan shout-out this week goes out to Tony Griffin from Dorset County in the southwest corner of the UK, specifically England. Thank you so much, Tony, for checking in with us. We get a lot of support from our friends across the pond, and we always appreciate that. I have not been to Dorset County, but I have been to a few other places, and there's not a place on that island I haven't liked. Thanks for checking in, buddy. saying hello this week as well to Rebecca Gonzalez Gutierrez, who hails from Spain, sending us that beautiful Spanish flag. Thanks, Rebecca, for saying hello to us and for supporting our podcast in the ways that you do. I would like to send a special shout out to Frank Holliday this week.

6:34 Frank Holliday hails from Sweden, a country I was recently in. He has been a fan since he was born in the 90s. His dad always watched the show. while it was airing on Swedish TV, and he always enjoyed watching it with him. It was the original show with Kirk, but his favorite character has always been, guess who, Roe Laren. What a great choice, Frank. Thanks so much for sharing that with us and for sending us those beautiful emojis attracting Jim's attention, and for being from a most reasonable country, I will say. You know, now, not historically. And last but not least, thanks so much for supporting our podcast to Karen Ristadt, who hails from Dusseldorf, Germany. Lots of support for our podcast there in the middle of Europe. V, how much did I away?

7:38 I don't know, but do you know how much a hen weighs? What's a hen weigh? Nevermind. That's I just ruined that joke. All right. Well, isn't the correct answer. She weighed a Washington. I don't know. Well, I should have been, I should have talked about a up dog. Yes. All right. Anyway, um, My first shout out goes to Stephen Keith Tate, who says, I'm from Iowa, but I dream of space. So do I, Stephen. So do I. Next shout out goes out to Nancy Leary, who is a fan in Missouri. So thank you for that, Nancy.

8:28 Next. Oh, somebody in my state. Lisa Carol Hardy, who says, I'm from Virginia. My daddy and I watched Star Trek together when I was a kid. God rest his soul. Oh, thank you for that sweet sentiment, Lisa. And then last but not least, a shout out goes to Luann McGowan from Kokomo, Indiana. All right. So now the flaming megaphone goes to... Toast to Charles, I'm sorry. Oh my. God, yes. There you go, Charles.

9:09 Okay. Sorry for burning your gloves a little bit, David, as I had to do the engineering gloves. Not sure why this thing had to be so flaming. So let's welcome Jim Britton from Texas. Welcome, Jim. Welcome, Lowell Marks from Georgia. Yeah. And welcome Shirley Majeski from Oregon. Welcome you three, as I think somebody miscounted on my list. And I'll pass it on to Eric and maybe waiting for hoping Paul pops in. Absolutely. I'll do mine and maybe Paul will be back.

9:54 He said he's joining us. Okay. We'll go out of order here, and hopefully Paul will be back. If not, Eric can jump in. So I want to say hello and thank you to Zangie Appy. Sounds like a made-up name. Maybe there is a Zangie Appy. I don't know, but I'm glad that Zangie Appy lives in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and listens to our podcast. Nice to have you, Zangie. I also want to say hello, thank you, and welcome to Timothy Applecrombie, who's listening to us. Or he could be watching us if he's one of our many, many subscribers. In Chicago, Illinois right now. Thank you so much.

10:36 I'd also like to send out a huge thank you to Linda Kelly Bryan, who's in San Jose. And last but not least, I'd like to say hello and thank you to Paul Schell, who's listening to us in Medford, Massachusetts. And now I'm going to pass this flaming candle thing over to Paul. Take it away, Paul. Thank you, people of Earth. I am among you. Let's say hello to folks across the globe, shall we? I am going to see if I can do this psychically. I'm trying to see if I can pick up on where the different longitudinal energy flow is coming from. And I believe I've picked up somebody in Hessen, Germany, if I'm not mistaken, beaming out that Vulcan love from Germany.

11:27 It's Christian Helmut Kohler, a very awesome sounding German name. Christian, it's great to hear from you, knowing that you're out there. I envy folks in Germany all the Christmas markets that are about to unfold in the coming months, so pretty exciting. Let's say hello also, just down the road a bit, to our friend Ross Dowling in Ireland. Ross Dowling is saying hello from way over there in the Briny, the wonderful spot of the world that we... know of. It's just splendid that you're there. And just a little bit farther afield from Ross, Peter Jastrzebski is saying from the storied burg of Canterbury, England. How fantastic is that from Canterbury itself? Land of Chaucer, as many of us know.

12:15 And then finally, if you like a little pasta, a little gelato, a little vino, go over to Genoa, Italy and see my pal Amparo Gisella Morozzi. Amparo! Wonderful to hear from you. You are very, very near on my next destination list. I cannot wait to get myself over to Italy, and it's wonderful to hear that we have folks who are fans of the show, fans of science fiction, fans of a more hopeful, positive future, and fans of crazy, wacky, thriller, exciting things that we enjoy in this time of year for Halloween, that unites us and gives us something in common to all share in a positive and wacky way.

12:56 And does that take care of everybody for birthdays? Was I bringing up the caboose, Uncle Jim? Yep, yep. I jumped in ahead of you waiting for you to get here. It's just like when we're in line for a movie. Uncle Jim just jumps and elbows you out of the way. He's like, I need the large popcorn. He's just like, you know, what are you going to do? So that's our thing. There we go. That's totally fine because if you, if you right there, yep, I'm talking about you, would like to be featured in a fan shout out, all you have to do is head over to our Facebook page, which is Trek Talking and Beyond. And you'll see pinned at the top of the page, Live Long and Prosper. Tell us where you're from. Please leave lots of emojis. It gets my attention. Look for a heart next to your name from your truly Uncle Jim. You'll be featured in a future fan shout-out.

13:42 And all these awesome pictures going by that David put up for us. There's me and my family with Freddy Krueger himself. You can send us your pictures, and David will get them up there so that you'll be immortalized as a Star Trek fan. Or... maybe a Star Wars fan. I won't hold that against you. Or whatever sci-fi genre you happen to be in. Just send us your pictures, and David will get them right up there on the screen. It's that simple. All right, that's our fan shout-outs. And speaking of our Facebook page, guys, I like to throw up trivia questions and all kinds of stuff because it's very important to us here at Trek Talking that we're part of the fan community.

14:24 That includes each and every one of you guys. So I like to ask polls. So before we get to our poll, we have to have our polling song. Polling, polling, polling. You know we like knowing what you thought about the show and we try to share your opinions with all of our minions out there. Because they listen worldwide. So tell us just what you think. And together we will all drink. Kadar and Romulan ale tonight.

15:09 You know what? That is an award-winning song and video. And I think we should put that in for some fan award somewhere, because the video is excellent, the song is excellent, and it just. Every time I see it, it makes me laugh. You know what, Jim? It's even better when you've seen it 237 times. And still love it. Kind of. Like me with Clash. Or better yet, the best Star Trek movie ever made, which you guys already know. All right, Eric. Star Trek 4, yeah. Very close, very close, but a tad short of the best one. All right, Eric, what was our poll question this week?

15:52 Well, we, of course, are building out the senior staff of our fictional ship, the USS Shockery, in honor of Jim's favorite, you know, Star Trek movie, whether he be right or wrong. But this week, We are talking about Ship's Counselor. And you may be thinking to yourself, but Eric, doesn't that put 100% of the votes in Deanna Troy's bin? No, it does not. In fact, we have a really good diversity of answers that people have voted for here. So here we go. As your Ship's Counselor aboard the USS Shaakiri, coming in at ninth place, we have Chef. And you all are like, Chef? I haven't seen enough Star Trek to know who Chef is.

16:42 Is that Chef from South Park? No, it is not. Children? It is a different type of Chef. In fact, you could argue that this may define a couple of different characters. So I'm pretty sure that what Jim was shooting for here was he was shooting for the character that, of course... William Riker sort of plays in a kind of meta way in the series finale, actually, of Star Trek Enterprise, where he shows up as the chef. However, I will remind everyone that in the original series, the chef was kind of a long-running gag, right? Like, Kirk would mention chef, and you never actually saw chef? Well, there was actually...

17:29 It was actually one episode where you sort of saw him in the episode, the catwalk from season two. You see him from the waist down as portrayed by actor Richard Starstead. But I'm pretty sure that Jim was talking about the portrayal by, of course, Mr. William Riker. And I'm saying William Riker rather than the actor's name because, you know, it was like an actor within an acting situation. Right. Yeah. Inception, baby. Anyway. Chef got 2% of the votes, which I thought was pretty cool. Yeah, I would say a very good counselor, right? One of those guys, like a bartender, who just listens to your problems. Okay, coming in at eighth place, we have Elizabeth Denner. That's right, the OG from TOS, from the episode, of course, where No Man Has Gone Before.

18:23 Also gets the silver eyes like the Charlie X, but she got 6% of the vote, so that's pretty good. We didn't see very much of her, and she kind of freaks out, but people thought she was a good ships counselor, so there you go. Coming in at seventh place, we have The Doctor. That's right, Robert Picardo himself. Only garnering 7% of the vote. I think he deserved more, but that's my personal opinion and not your opinion as the fans. Coming in at sixth place, we have Eleanor Shevers. And she is, of course, our newest counselor that we get to see a la Strange New Worlds episodes like the episode Like Chronotons Through the Hourglass. You'll remember that she has a storied history as a great soap opera star, and we see her show up in Strange New Worlds.

19:17 I thought her portrayal of the counselor was great. She got 9% of your votes in sixth place, so thanks for that. In fifth place, we have somebody who catches a lot of flack but is secretly one of my personal favorites. I guess I must have a soft spot for people who catch flack that I really like because I love Neelix. I just think Neelix is great. He got 10% of your vote. As ship's counselor, he really cares, man, deep down. Whether you find him annoying or not, he is a good guy to talk about your problems with. So, Neelix, fifth place. In fourth place, we have Hugh Culber from Star Trek Discovery. I think another excellent choice. Hugh seems particularly empathetic and like somebody I could really unload on and who might help guide me in the correct direction. So, Good choice there. In third place, we have Dax. And you may be thinking of Jadzia Dax, but I think what we were going for here was the actual psychologist, Esri, right? Yeah, so 13% of you gave Esri Dax your vote as your preferred counselor. So I think that's awesome. What's a little weird is edging out Ezri Dax by 4%.

20:42 Yeah. Is the weird, what is it? A Klauken or something? Klauken. Klauken. Yeah. Migglymoo. I love him. He is so, he's, yeah, I love him. I love him. I mean, he is awesome comic relief. Would you trust your psychological health to this creature? Sure. And that's why we have the V we have. Thanks, V. Explains a lot. And in our number one spot, of course, as your counselor aboard the USS Shockery, we have Deanna Troi.

21:30 Deanna Troi who you thought was going to get 97% of the vote, only got 25%, but that was enough to edge out everybody else. So thank you so much for helping us along this fun journey. Right now we have, of course, Deanna Troy. As your new counselor, Her Imzadi Willreicher is our XO aboard the USS Chakarine. We have our Chief Medical Officer Bones, our Chief Engineer Scotty, our Chief Science Officer Spock rounding out our TOS contingent. But security is better left with people from Deep Space Nine, including our good friend Odo. And everybody knows that Tom Paris makes the best pilot in the galaxy. So this is really... Jim, how many more positions do we have to fill out for the USS Shaqiri here?

22:23 We just posted Ship's Nurse. Ah, nice. Which was an interesting one. Then we have Captain of the Shaqiri. Then we have Fleet Admiral. And then we have... the villain that the shock diary is going to face off against. So we have four more polls. You forgot one. The crew members. The generic red shirts. Favorite red shirt, yeah. Isn't there one guy who dies like three times in TOS in different, like playing different roles? I feel like there's one guy on my. Playlist that I remember. It's like Leslie or some, it's not Leslie, but it's like the guy with the dark brown hair. Anyway, I'll think of it, yeah.

23:10 The guy in the Kelvin universe that calls Captain Kirk Cupcake died in all three movies and keeps coming back. Oh, did he really? Oh, that's funny. All right, guys. So that is our poll. You guys can head over to TrekTalk and beyond to vote in this week's poll, which is Nurse. And again... please don't send me all these explanations as why I'm wrong. And this one wasn't a nurse. And this one was actually an etymologist. And that one was a seismologist. I don't care. Okay. We have to have choices. I can't just put up there. Well, we got Nurse Chapel and Nurse Ogawa. So you got two to choose from. Okay. So David and I try to get one from each series.

23:52 And so that's why there's choices up there that you might not recognize. Okay. So cut the crap, everybody. All right. Now it's time to move on to Paul's super sci-fi extravaganza movie of the week pick. And Paul had mentioned this at the end of his, oh, my God, look at the walking dinosaur, David. You are just a bomb. You are the bomb. I'm telling you. If you guys aren't subscribers, you're missing the walking dinosaur. Anyways, Paul kind of threw this one in at the end of our super sci-fi movie extravaganza a couple of months ago, and I hadn't heard of it until Paul brought it up and went to see it.

24:35 So I thought, let's talk about that movie. So, Paul, I'm going to hand this flaming mic. Why is everything flaming? I don't know. That's a really good question. I think we need some new adjectives. Thank you. Yeah. Fiery. We're going to hand the shivering microphone over to Paul. Spicy. Okay. So I think what we're going to try to do is just do a quick recap of events here, gang, if that sounds good. Just to sort of, I'm hoping folks have seen this movie by now, because this is a summer picture. We did, as Uncle Jim said, we did a show at the start of the summer. Like, what are some of the big movies coming out for the rest of the year that we should maybe consider, you know, that would appeal to a sci-fi fantasy fan?

25:17 And the end of Oak Street is one of them. It was a very mysterious movie at first. We weren't really sure what it was about. There were some rumors that it was part of the whole J.J. Abrams universe of monsters and things that we get sometimes. We weren't really sure what to make of it. What was it going to be? What we got was a movie that ended up being kind of like a really big budgeted Twilight Zone episode if that particular episode was focused on Jurassic Park type of situation. So we are set in 1982. Initially, you're not really sure because, you know, people dress in kind of similar garb these days. You're not really sure what year it is at first. But we're in 1982 and we're focusing on a suburban family called the Platts starring Denise Platt, who's Anne Hathaway, who's just just about everything these days. And her husband, Greg, is Ewan McGregor.

26:14 And there are two kids, teenagers, Audrey and her brother, Brian. And the family's struggling through kind of a strained marriage, right? And Denise, I'll call her by her character name. Denise is like sneaking downstairs in the basement to write a novel that is revealing way more about her than she probably realizes. And the husband, Greg, Ewan McGregor, is... Got a lot of financial stress because he's lost his job and he doesn't want to tell anybody. So he's trying to hold it together while he's doing what he calls an extra job, delivering pizzas, right? We have a very strained marriage, though. It doesn't seem like it's holding itself together very well. And as the things continue, there's a series of these cosmic tremors and flashing lights going on.

27:03 What is going on? And we have one neighbor who asks Anne over, or Denise, I'm very confused with the first names of these people here, asks her over because she's got this very strange plant that is growing up in her backyard that doesn't even remotely look like a plant that we would see. And she takes a picture of it or a sketch of it down at the library and finds out it's a plant that probably was extinct millions of years ago. It's like a prehistoric. And if that doesn't get your attention and make you worry, then you probably have never seen a science fiction movie before. So all of a sudden, these flashing lights and tremors return. And after waking up in a very strange kind of vibe, we start to realize that the entire neighborhood, their entire block, probably more than one block, their entire neighborhood has somehow been scooped up and deposited into a dinosaur-filled mesozoic swamp.

27:58 And it doesn't take long. before the dinosaurs start popping out and killing neighbors across the street while the family is forced to barricade their house to try to keep them out. The son, of course, has a dog that he's very concerned about, a rather annoying dog named Starbuck that is conveniently left tied up outside. And they force various events, force the family to venture out in the jungle to look for the missing dog and missing children and all the things like that. So they're facing all kinds of terrors and dangers. Raptor-like beings, pterodactyls, chamanosauruses, and a massive prehistoric snake that is just a phenomenal piece of special effects wizardry that I was not prepared for.

28:43 He is spectacular. All kinds of crazy things happen. And interestingly, too, one of the things that they do in this movie that I really liked... They really depict the dinosaurs in a way that's a little bit more accurate to what current paleontologists say dinosaurs would be like. Not just reptilian scales, but with fur and with feathers and things. Because we believe a lot of our modern day birds can trace their ancestry back to dinosaurs. So I thought that was a really interesting touch in the design department there. There's a big, amidst all this survival stuff that's going on, Um, there is a real surprising moment, uh, towards the middle or late big spoiler coming here. Sorry. So, but see the movie.

29:27 That answers my question as to whether we were spoiling or not. Well, I think we can. I don't know that we, I don't know that we can talk about the ending of this movie unless we do. Are we in a consensus that it's okay? I haven't dropped a bomb yet, but I think the ending is almost impossible to talk about unless you talk about the fact that towards the end of Act 2, while battling a carnivorous Allosaurus, the husband, Greg, is killed protecting his family. All of a sudden, this sci-fi is... you know, plunged into rather gory and visceral personal tragedy. It starts with his leg being torn off. And then, uh, Greg is basically Salisbury steak, but at the end of the scene, right? I mean, let's just be honest. Right. So, uh, and then they discovered this other young woman in the neighborhood who's been orphaned and another teenage girl, um, Audrey equivalent, right, named Jeanette. And she, they team up and sort of become her sort of pseudo family because she's got no one.

30:30 Else, right? And then you're still trying to find the dog and all these other things. And there's a really obnoxious neighbor who's bothering everyone. And eventually he gets gobbled up, no surprise there. But they start to discover this glowing temporal orb that they can see from a distance that they're pretty sure might be a entry back through some kind of wormhole or whatever that would take them back to their own time, millions of years in the future. So they jumped through the anomaly and eventually, after a series of mishaps and tree fallings and such like and chaos, they tumbled back out into 1982, but about 20 minutes before the original neighborhood swallowing events took place, which we know because there's a very convenient digital clock prominently positioned over a bus stop. that tells us exactly what.

31:19 Time it was. So I don't know who was keeping track of all that. But you've got to suspend your disbelief with all this stuff. So the mom, Denise, realizes she's just got minutes to act. So she goes to a convenient payphone and calls the local pizzeria where her husband works and asks to get a delivery right to the edge of the danger zone, pulling him out of there before the wormhole neighborhood transpositioning opens. Whoa. And, of course, that saves him. Him. Him. From being popped over there. And then there, they, the, the popping still does happen because those things just happen. The neighborhood does pop and in its place, we've got dinosaurs wandering around now in their neighborhood here where their actual neighborhood used to be. Is any of this making sense?

32:02 I feel like it's a little convoluted, but I hope it is. Anyhow. Yeah. Greg was saved because she pulled Greg too over there to deliver the pizza. But, but, all of the other members of the family are still there and are still going to get transported. So we get a real time thing going on here, as my Doctor Who pals like to say. A lot of timey-wimey nonsense. Because now there's a split timeline. Because Denise only saves Greg and rather than stopping the entire event, now a branched reality is created as a result of that. And then we see a barbecue scene later on. And Denise has now published her memoir where everything has been revealed. It's become publicly knowledge. But if you look towards the end here, we start to realize that this branch timeline has had some other effects here, because the other teenage girlfriend, the one they sort of co-adopted or whatever, there's two of her now. There's the one that came back with them from the events of the movie, and Jeanette, who managed to... I've got notes, we can talk about it, it's crazy, but there's basically two of them, because she was able to run down and save her family and herself as opposed to what Denise did. So it's crazy.

33:18 And then at some point I can talk about an alternative ending that, uh, they originally were thinking about doing, but they didn't do so craziness. Um, it's a little wacky. It is very much a Twilight Zone kind of vibe movie. It felt to me like a modern Twilight Zone, but, uh, if you have a fondness for dinosaurs and really good computer effects, I think most of these, I think were probably digital creations. These dinosaurs, I don't know if they did a lot of practical effects, but they look fantastic. Uh, especially the snake, which blew my mind. So that's my, uh, rather long winded recap of this movie. And I'm happy to discuss it more later. If we want to talk about this crazy branch reality thing, it's pretty, pretty crazy what she ends up doing there. But, uh, that's what I got.

34:03 Yeah, absolutely. That's pretty much the recap of the movie, guys. And if you haven't seen it, we're going to spoil it because we have to. And we do have a, if you haven't seen it and you want to see it, David, roll back that clip that Paul gave us for the extravaganza. Oh, What's happening to us? I think.

34:57 Our house. Our neighborhood... Our whole street. Has moved. How the hell. Is that even possible? Oh my god, run!

35:51 There you have it guys that was the trailer for End of Oak Street and when Paul showed it on the sci-fi extravaganza. I just had to check it out I should mention, too, that this picture was written and directed by a young fella, young fella, David Robert Mitchell, who sort of burst into the scene back in 2014 with a thriller called It Follows that developed quite a decent sized audience and did really well. So it's very much, as that trailer makes pretty clear, it's really evoking mid 80s Steven Spielberg. early 80s Steven Spielberg, right? The dysfunctional family, the bike-riding kids, the cozy suburban environment a la Poltergeist that's hiding things that we might not have dreamt of kind of thing.

36:47 So very much a love letter to Mr. Spielberg there, just for a framing thing. So just wanted to throw that in. And you know, Paul, that was one of the things that I loved about this movie. Um, It wasn't like a Jurassic Park where here's some dinosaurs, we're going to go to the island, they're going to eat us type of thing. The dinosaurs weren't really the main gist of the movie. It was the family and what they're going through and trying to get out of their homes. And it's the opposite of Jurassic Park. It's like, you know, instead of going to an island filled with dinosaurs, you wake up in the morning, you look out your window, And it's your neighborhood, your car, your friends, your neighbors, but there's dinosaurs here. It was a really cool concept, and I thought they played it well. And I did get the feel of poltergeist. I think they went out of their way to make it feel that way. They made you identify with the family. The girl had a 2001 Space Odyssey poster on her wall, and she wanted to be an astronaut or a physicist. Astronomer. Yeah, so she was really into space. The Sun had a Battlestar Galactica poster on his wall and a police Zendada Manada poster on his wall as well. When she went to listen to her tapes, she pulls out a tape of REO Speedwagon. And on the kitchen table, I mean on the living room table, there was a Simon electronic game,

38:17 for those of us old enough to remember Simon. And it just had a lot of 80s feel to it, like Paul said. They created a neighborhood, neighbors, people that you knew. And it just felt very familiar. And I liked that about the movie. I also liked the fact that the family was having difficulty. And the wife, Anne Hathaway, was writing a book, like Paul already said. And the next door neighbor, I believe she was a published author or a librarian. I don't remember what her name was. Was she a librarian or an author, Paul? She might have been both. I think she was for sure an author. I think she'd probably been a teacher. My guess is she maybe was, you know, Denise's teacher at some point. You know, they didn't spell it out.

39:01 But she's like, you know, kind of an older mentor with a lot of knowledge about, you know, she could be a book editor or whatever. But she clearly knows books really well and she gives a lot of encouragement and mentoring to Denise. And she, you know, she says, I particularly like the chapter where you have your yellow suitcase packed and ready to go. So there was a lot of insight into that relationship between. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anne Hathaway. So I really liked it a lot. I really liked it more than I thought that I would. And we get to see. Dino style going on in this movie. It's for the doggy style. It's so funny.

39:43 You know, Obi-Wan Kenobi gets his picture taken in front of some dinosaurs that are getting down and getting jiggy with it. And later on, we see the picture of him. But it's not really him because he's dead. But we see a picture of him on the wall from that particular time frame. And I just, overall, I enjoyed it. And I didn't see. I didn't see that ending coming until the clock. When I realized, like Paul said, when I realized exactly, I'm like, dinosaurs are killing people and she's calling. What the hell? And when I realized what was.

40:24 Going on, then it dawned on me what was actually happening. And so I was like, cool. And the dog. Let's talk about Starbuck. I remember I was watching an interview with Anne Hathaway, who's really into PETA. And she was on the Kelly Clarkson show and she said, The dog doesn't die. And she said one of her prerequisites for doing the movie is if they killed the dog, she wouldn't do the movie. So the dog had to survive. And the dog does survive. So that's a spoiler for you guys. But the dog is relevant because the dog saves the idiot kid's life later on in the movie. And he is an idiot. He can't count. I mean...

41:04 I mean, you know, the bubble's opening and closing and opening and closing, and the idiot jumps when it closes. Anyways, I'll leave that for other people to talk about. But at any rate, I enjoyed this movie immensely. I thought it was a lot of fun. I thought Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ian McGregor, really knew how to handle a sledgehammer. When he takes out that dinosaur with the sledgehammer, I was like, go get him, Obi-Wan! Yeah that didn't last too long. When he gets chewed up I was like how the hell can that happen he's the star of the movie but he did he died loved it I thought the dinosaurs looked great as Paul already said the girl I'll leave that for someone else but when they get to the end the girl runs down and now there's two of her in the same universe and I thought That was going to cause some type of causality, the time loop infraction thing like on Star Trek. But apparently, okay, there's just two of her now and everyone's cool with that. So, yeah, I recommend this movie. I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun. It was not your typical dinosaur Jurassic Park movie. The dinosaurs looked great. Like Paul said, the snake scene, I mean, that was the longest snake I've ever seen in my life.

42:29 Huge snake and uh yeah it's like. The after eight the next story who gets eaten by the pterodactyls i'm like i don't know if i would have saved him but uh she did um. And you have to watch the end because you'll see a lot of these characters that you get that get destroyed eaten chomped on during the movie are all alive again because she saves them. So that, you know, that was pretty cool. No one actually, no human was actually harmed in making them this motion picture because she saves them all. So anyways, I disagree. I disagree. That's not really what happened.

43:12 Oh, okay. So I, I enjoyed it. I recommend it. I think you should check it out. It's on VOD right now. And I don't think he'll be disappointed. I think Paul picked a good one for his sci-fi extravaganza that we did. So with that, I'm. Going to turn this ice cold microphone over to V. All right. Yeah, well, watching it just not too long into the movie when I can't remember if it was the TV or the radio where you hear this news announcer saying something to the effect of, And NASA is, you know, something about ripples in space. And it's like, uh-oh.

43:53 And I will have to admit that once they have all the, you know, the dinosaurs, they discover the dinosaurs. When that neighbor, that lady comes out on her porch and she said, is that a gunshot? And then chomp. I just, I absolutely just laughed way harder than I should have. Over that. But yeah, the dog, I did not, I did not know that the dog was going to survive, but I just hate it in movies when they leave. The dog outside. It's like, no, because that's been, that's happened a lot of times. And then, you know, the animals get, you know, chomped or something by whatever is out there. So Starbuck, you know, he, he luckily survives, but And every time, every time the dad is saying, Oh, he's going to be okay. He's a smart dog. I just wanted to say, are you kidding me? That's their dinosaurs out there. He's going to get eaten, but he didn't.

45:00 Thankfully. Um, let's see. What else did I like about it? I wrote my notes down. Oh yeah. The, um, the, uh, dinosaurs go in at it. It's like, Oh my God, I was not expecting that. And, um, They focus on that for way too long. And I was like, okay, I cannot watch these dinosaurs, especially when they focused on the female dinosaur. And she's just kind of like, ugh. But I did like that they have the dinosaurs more correct. I think they've discovered through different fossils and such that they found the pattern of like feathers and, and fur. So, uh, but I, I have two friends who, uh, both have, one has a cockatoo and one has a parrot. And I, um, according to them, uh, yes, um, uh, they are descended from dinosaurs. Um, did not see the ending coming. Uh, I have never seen a bus or not a bus stop, a, um, uh, a phone booth. Well, it looked like it had a bench in there. So it was like a combination phone booth bus stop with a bright, uh, digital clock. So that was, that was interesting. Um, but overall, uh, it was interesting, interesting premise. Um, if, uh, I ever get a house on my own, I'm, and

46:33 I find a house on Oak street, I'm going to pass that by. I'm not, I'm not going to get a house on, on Oak street. Um, But, yeah, it was an interesting movie. I got some laughs out of it. I got scared. That snake, oh, my God, when it opened up its mouth. You see all those teeth. And I immediately thought of Indiana Jones saying, why did it have to be snakes? But, yeah, it was an enjoyable movie. You know, I don't know what I would, am I supposed to rate it? If I rated it, I would give it probably a 7, 7.5. So there you go.

47:16 But I never ever. You know, the cat didn't make it, though, unfortunately. Huh? The cat didn't make it, though. Oh, wait. Oh, that's right. I forgot. Yeah. It's like, why did they have to do that? It's like, don't do that with the animals. But yeah, I never ever... The dog made it, but the cat did not. I never ever want to see dinosaurs doing it ever again. Thank you. Oh boy. Well, shall we pass this ice cold microphone over to Eric? Sure. Sure. That sounds great. Yeah. So I really approached this movie with a, I have no idea anything about it. Like I didn't, I might've watched a trailer like a couple of months ago, but I really didn't read anything about it. I tried to just go in totally cold Turkey and, Um, in my mind's eye, you know, it was called the end of Oak street, which naturally evoked nightmare on Elm street. It just kind of like felt the same, like had the same kind of cadence to it, which I'm sure they were relying on for sort of like that, you know, lizard brain recognition. Um, if, if you're into a Jurassic park type of movie that has some like science, and some explanations for things and that sort of stuff. This movie is not for you. That is not what this movie does. This movie has the really Paul annoying dog.

48:52 I didn't find the dog particularly annoying. Okay. So I just defend myself briefly. If you're a dog owner and you let your dog bark constantly, right. And you don't ameliorate said dog, You have a problem and you shouldn't be a dog owner. That's just one of the rules that keeps civilizations alive, right? And this was a completely untrained bark, bark, bark, bark, bark. bark, bark, bark, bark. And it's always getting out and, you know, they're like pooping in people's yards. And I'm sorry. I kind of got aside with the poorly painted neighbor in this case because these folks are terrible dog owners. And the dog is really annoying. And the relationship with the teenage boy was really annoying. I'm sorry. I had to get that out. Sorry.

49:42 Well, I wanted to give you an opportunity for sure. Yeah. I mean, bad dog owners for sure. No question. You know, right from the get go, I got a very kind of Stranger Things vibe from it, which I think you're all talking about. Right. It's got that like 1980s kind of Spielberg sort of kids on bikes kind of feel to it. I will admit that because I went in totally cold Turkey, I had no idea that both Anne Hathaway and Ewan McGregor were in this movie. And so I was a little bit star struck star struck at first. I kind of like went in thinking I was going to watch a crappy horror movie. And then right from the get go, I get these two stars up front. So, um, I thought it was great. Um, you know, it, it, it's a unique movie in that it kind of wobbles between being this sort of like friendly family, like the first 30 minutes really set a family friendly tone.

50:40 Right. Which I think is part of the things that I really liked about this movie. And then you sort of have like 45 minutes of chase scene. And then the last like 20 minutes is like the really gory horror part and resolution of that stuff. So that's like the, the cadence of the movie. Um, you know, when I described it, when somebody asked me what I thought about the movie and I was like, well, let me describe it to you. It's basically like a really sweet first 30 minutes. Then we get into the shit and the shit is pretty much continuous and holy fuck. And we're never going to get out of this for like an hour, but then there's a second chance and then they make the best of it. And then everybody sort of lives happily ever after. So, you know, uh, for something that feels kind of shallow when I describe it out loud, I actually enjoyed this movie quite a bit. Uh, I love the mechanic. I love the kind of like science fictiony.

51:37 I was, I was somehow simultaneously annoyed and elated at the fact that they didn't describe what the actual mechanism was for the science fictiony stuff. Because by the time of the, the, the end of the movie came, I realized I didn't really care. Like I didn't, I didn't care why the bubbles were happening or how often they were happening or whatever. Um, I just cared that they did happen and that these, these people were in the moment trying to figure it out. And I, and I guess what I, my overall feeling of the movie was that more than I think a lot of movies that I've seen of this type, this one pulls you into the moment. You feel the kind of like visceral reactions of the family, but without it just being the sort of standard horror film, oh my God, Oh my God, Oh my God, Oh my God, Oh my God. The whole time. Like there's, there's thinking and there's like emotional connection.

52:32 And I think that part of that is like the quality of the actors involved. You know, you got the two, the two big heavy hitters. Somebody might've said that the boy was annoying too, but like, I actually found him to be like, I was freaking out every time the boy freaked out. He just had this way of like, kind of like displaying his freak out emotion that for whatever reason, got me caught up in it. So I like that. You know, at the end, the kind of like, you know, paradoxical stuff that you guys are talking about, once again, didn't really care. I think I could explain it either way, you know, from like time travel as a person who's thought way too much about time travel.

53:18 But I did like the kind of bittersweet, you know, ending of the fact that the dad dies a horrible death and the mom can't really functionally deal with it. And so she deals with it by kind of providing the second chance of having the second dad and nobody ever talks about it again. Right. So I sort of, I sort of like that, you know, we're just going to sort of do this and not really talk about it. Can I caboose on that, man? Yeah, sure. Okay, because that's the thing, right? You know, the other teenager who's not their daughter, right? She scrambles down the street to save her parents, like, immediately, right? I mean, lickety-split to warn them about what's going to happen. And she runs to save them, and so she also inadvertently saves her younger self in addition to them, right?

54:17 Mm-hmm. So that's great. That younger version never got sucked into the prehistoric past, never got stranded, all that stuff, yada, yada, yada. Denise, though, Anne Hathaway, who should take her dog and get her trained, right? She could have easily used those 20 minutes to save her own past self and her children, too. Easily. Instead, what does Denise do? She deliberately chose not to warn her past self. She purposely allowed her alternate self and alternate kids to be sucked into the prehistoric nightmare. So they would endure the trauma, find the portal, and eventually loop-bound her to complete the cycle so that she could be standing there. Otherwise, it would have never happened. So she sacrificed another version of her own family just so she could safely hijack the timeline, take over her old house, and live happily ever after with her resurrected Greg. You know, I mean, I don't know.

55:06 Yeah, I mean, I love that. Denise Prime. She's bad. I mean, that explanation is almost perfect, Paul. The one. part of it that does not match the kind of causation, uh, paradox that we're all sort of used to is that everybody in the prime family remembers the dad died and secondary dad is the one who takes over. And so the causation loop doesn't actually wrap back all the way around. Like we think it does, right? This is, that's what, when you, I loved it that when you did your initial setup, you were like, this is actually an alternate timeline. And it is because a causation loop wraps you back around to the same point in the same timeline.

55:51 Right. This does not do that. This sort of does it. But like, it's a little bit adjacent. So it's like we have no way of knowing because he's the one the dad is the one who saved them. Right. From the attacking dinosaurs. Right. When in the movie we saw. Right. They would have all been eaten and become hamburger helper if Ewan McGregor had sacrificed himself. Right. They would have. But in this now new reality, mom and the two kids went over without Ewan McGregor. And so he's not there to save them from from the from the Allosaurus. Right. So in theory, in all likelihood, those mom and the two kids are going to get hamburger helper because dad wasn't there to save them. And hopefully, you know, Starbucks, the dog got hamburger helper, too. I mean, they can only dream.

56:40 Right. But but so how are they able to come back? and, you know, you know, hijack dad number two from going over if they were never able to like survive. So we just have to assume they survived magically some other way where dad wasn't there to help them. Is that, do you follow the same rules? Would you say that's what I'm talking about? Yeah. Okay, good. I just want to make sure, cause you know, this time stuff, right. It's crazy. Right. And I'm Fred Flintstone, right. When it comes to this, I mean, luckily, luckily Paul, um, Unlike many episodes of time travel Star Trek that we deal with, which are not as well thought out as this, I think this one doesn't require that we understand the time travel mechanism for us to enjoy the movie, right?

57:26 I agree. But when you think about it with the beer afterwards, it's like, wait a minute. No, I love this. You personally know those are my favorite types of conversations. Yeah. It's like when you start looking at Anne Hathaway, you're like, I don't think I would trust you to watch my dinner while I go to the bathroom, Anne Hathaway. I think you'd be poisoning it or giving it to someone else or whatever. She's a shifty broad, right? Sorry. Sorry. No, no, no, that's all right. I just wanted to, like, I don't want to go too long in my review, but the one thing that I thought was that I was pretty sure I was locked in on, and then it didn't happen, and I was kind of like, oh, that's weird. So they go back in time, or they go, sorry, they go forward in time, they go back to their own time, they land in the pool, there's a lady who owns the house, right? I was positive that was going to be an older version of Janine. I was absolutely positive that was going to be the case. And then it wasn't at all.

58:30 So that would have been better. So I feel like, I feel like there was just like a, and of course then it wouldn't have worked with the whole, like having to go back before the whole dinosaur thing happened. So I understand like from a writing standpoint that the timeline doesn't work out for that to be an older Janine, but I would have loved for her to have gone through the portal first to have experienced a different rate of time. Right. And then they go back through and all of a sudden it's like, holy shit, that's Gene. Bam, that'd be so cool. That would have been cool. Well, at some point when everyone's done, because I know other people still need to go. But at some point I want to talk about the ending they shot that they didn't use. But we'll save that. Well, David's right. Want to jump in next and take this freezing cold microphone.

59:14 Yeah as soon as I get the glove back from Charles but yeah the okay I just want to say congratulations to Anne Hathaway this is probably one of the best movies I've ever seen her act in that she had done The look on her face when her husband was being chomped away by the dinosaur was like, wow, what would you do in that situation? And what would your reaction be to the point where you're just like completely, you don't even care if the dinosaur is right next to you, you know, all danger just somehow left your mind. It was just like, I have to give some props to Anne Hathaway for her acting in that role right there. Cause that was actually really well done. And I enjoyed this movie, but there was a couple of things that I like. Okay, first of all, I do want to mention this is supposed to be 1982. When did Jurassic Park actually get released? Nobody saw Jurassic Park. So they didn't really know how to deal with dinosaurs.

1:00:14 Yeah, okay. They didn't really know how. I sort of had books and everything. So to me, I'm just like, Yeah, I can imagine some of the things that they made choices for when they went through trying to escape and didn't know what to happen. It was just kind of like, yeah, okay, I couldn't get that. But the idea of the kid going out on his own trying to get his dog, I was like, what is going on? I thought that was really, really dumb to do. But, I mean, you know, it's a movie, so. Other than that, the dinosaurs looked really great. The snake, yeah, pretty well done. The idea of them going through the bubble, which I think was a government project.

1:01:16 They said at the beginning, David, it was solar flares. Okay. That's a classic horror movie cause or like science fiction movie cause of weird stuff. They said solar flares. Boom. That's all you need. Okay. So the idea that they were going through to get back and everything like that, to me, I mean, this whole idea of trying to save the husband and was an interesting idea I have to admit it was kind of a it was I actually did not see that coming I mean I didn't actually see the father dying either I thought they were all going to survive somehow but to me that actually did surprise me pretty bad I was like whoa but um something that's just bothering me about the time limit between 1045 to 1105 just didn't get to me to the point where using a payphone where you had to put in coins, having to remember the numbers of the different people you had to call.

1:02:28 David, you were not alive in 1982. We all had 50 to 100 numbers memorized in. Our head at that time. Just to give you an example, I'm going to tell you. My wife's old phone number when we were in high school was 846-3642. I still remember it today. I don't know. Okay, maybe so. But to me, the idea that still 20 minutes calling four separate people just seems like it had to be within under four minutes each. She only calls one person, doesn't she? No, she ended up calling her neighbors.

1:03:09 Remember, there's the whole scene where she saves all these people, so she had to call them all. Oh, right, right, right. Okay, yeah. I mean, just trying to convince them, too, within four minutes, it just seems a little far-fetched. This is why. That's what I love about David. David will be like, but the timing. Yeah, the timing was a little off for me. I'm still hung up on the fact that David thinks the movie Jurassic Park existed in the movie reality of this movie. That because it existed in our reality of the movie, he thought it existed. In the reality. So the people in this movie... would have known in the future that Jurassic Park even. Though it hadn't been made yet but that it would in the future of this movie's universe reality it would come to pass but they wouldn't matter because they wouldn't have seen it yet in that reality and it's still the same.

1:03:53 I'm like my mind is blown by this I'm not saying the fact that they had seen it I'm just saying the fact that they haven't seen it because it wasn't made and so to me the idea is that. But that's not the point Yeah, I lost my teeth. With bacon over here. That's what I'm doing, David. I lost my teeth with bacon. I'm completely confused. Anyway, so. It's entertaining as hell. Yeah, the idea that they just couldn't... Anyway, so yeah. To me, that whole 20-minute thing just seems a little off. It just seems a little too perfect. Even if she had nerves of steel trying to punch in all those numbers, you know, and calmly trying to get them to come up to the hill or whatever. You know, to me, that was just like... It just doesn't make sense. It kind of threw me out of the movie a little bit.

1:04:42 So that's the only thing that I didn't like about the movie. David, if I called you and said there's a giant asteroid that's going to come and crash and kill you in 20 minutes, would you. Say the hell with it, Jim, and stay there and die? Or would you listen to me and leave? I don't know. To be honest, I mean, it would all have to be like, I don't know. They would be like, Jim's really wasted tonight. I don't know. I'm going to hang up on him. How long did it take for Jim to remember my phone number and then call me? I'm just saying, for me, within 20 minutes, it just seemed a little perfect to me. So that just kind of threw me out of the movie a little bit.

1:05:24 But that was toward the end. I enjoyed the rest of the movie, though. I really did. It was actually really fun. And I actually was alive during the time pay phones were still a thing. So I know how to use pay phones. So technically, I was even alive before Internet came around. So technically, I'm not that young. Well, I will tell you one thing, David. If you ask me my wife's phone number. I couldn't freaking tell you because all I do is say to my phone, call my wife and my phone calls her. I couldn't tell you what her phone number is. So it's just the opposite of what it was in 1982. Yeah. I don't know. That whole thing is, I'm just saying, it was just weird to me. Okay. That's all I'm saying. But the movie was great. I really recommend it. I applaud to Anne Hathaway's acting. I really enjoyed the suspense. The beginning of the movie was actually very suspenseful and it was really good. Well done.

1:06:20 I actually enjoyed it. So yeah, to me, I would have to give this a, just because of the ending, I'm just going to put it as a six. So if they had had 32 minutes to call everybody, that would have been a little more believable? Probably. Okay. I don't know. It's just. The timing. I mean, so they were probably trying to add more to the suspense, but I don't know. It just seemed, it was just weird. My question is, did everything go back to normal? Did Oak Street come back and the dinosaurs go back to where they came from?

1:07:03 No, they wrapped up the movie. They said that all the government came and killed most of the dinosaurs but kept a few of them and essentially... you know, everything never went back and yeah, nothing was ever explained about the time travel bubbles or anything. Yeah. All right, cool. I mean, isn't, doesn't, I can see why people would put this in the, the sort of Cloverfield universe, you know, cause it's, it's, it feels very adjacent to me in, in a lot of ways. Um, I'm not sure why they chose to not put it in that universe because they've kind of been setting up that franchise for the last...

1:07:47 I mean, it's been a while. Isn't it like 15 years or more? Like when Cloverfield, the first Cloverfield came out? Anyway. Yeah. Something like that. It's been a while. Yeah. It's been a long time. So, Charles, you still got your engineering gloves? You ready for the freezing cold microphone? No, David needs to give them back to me. Okay. A couple of things that caught me on this one, and I tried to realize the time period, was one, they pick out a Polaroid camera. I thought that was interesting. But when they were in the house, I looked at the TV. And the TV is showing a new episode of Love Boat. And the reason I could tell, because Isaac was right there being advertised on starring as one of the people in the show.

1:08:42 It's like, oh, okay, we're somewhere in the 80s. Definitely interesting. I'm surprised nobody mentioned the fact that they loosely based some of the science on Carl Sagan. The girl actually does quote a little bit of Carl Sagan talking about some of the wormholes, thinking that's a possibility of what's going on, which I thought was an interesting tie-in to saying, okay, let's bring in 80 science. I went and bought it.

1:09:25 Actually from Amazon. So they gave me the bonus features. And I realized why they did send so much money on this movie. When you see the fight scenes and you're thinking, oh, they're just throwing a bat at something. No. They had stuntmen there in padding having them hit them. The car scene where the car rolls in, the dinosaur pushes the car into the house. They actually put a car on a ramp, built a balsa house, and actually wrecked the car right into the house. And they didn't quite get the shot perfect. The crew went in for 30 minutes, rebuilt the balsa wood house, so they can go through and wreck it a second time. When the neighbor's up there getting on his roof, getting tossed around, he's actually on ropes. And they're actually stunt people. They actually crewed there, rigging him in, moving him around. When he flies up, the rigging goes up. So they really did some detail on it. You'll laugh, but remember the alligator types walking in the house. They were actually stunt men there crawling on the floor so the actors felt like they were actually there. And then they create the

1:10:59 images around that to create the dinosaur. Even the snake coming out of the pool, they actually rigged an actual item that slithered out so it actually had the full effect of the pool being torn up. So I love their effect. They really put some detail into their stunt work, making it real. It's not just, oh, it's make-believe of them doing it. They actually got stuntmen and people there so they could sit there. Made it look real. And it's like, kudos to them for putting that much work into making the film look realistic. Definitely, I think, I didn't see the double on the girl. My mistake, but I did remember seeing them talk about the military coming in, government coming in and trying to kill off some of the stray dinosaurs. And I gather the area that was taken away was probably roped off and blocked off to keep people from going into it. Because it was probably basically just one big hole. I thought the concept was good. I thought the effect was good. I enjoyed myself. Yes, David, back in the 80s, you either memorized your phone numbers or you had a black book

1:12:31 with you carrying. Important phone numbers. And a lot of important phone numbers you memorized. You knew certain people's phone numbers because you called them so much. But we're not really probably keeping good score on this one, but I would give this one eight and a half. This was definitely a good dinosaur movie and a good sort of, not as much a horror as a thriller. I didn't expect what they were going to do with the husband. I didn't expect him to get killed off.

1:13:11 And when they actually brought him back, bringing a pizza, it's like, oh, now that's a creative way of bringing the character back. Definitely recommend it. All right. And Paul started this whole thing off and he can wrap it all up for us. All right, cool. I would probably, I enjoyed it too. I mean, I really did. There were some groaning moments to me, like when the, like somebody mentioned, I think it was you, Eric, when like the, the teenage boy goes running off to look for a dog. I mean, it was just like, you know, if I had a tank in that neighborhood, I wouldn't be going out looking for a dog. I mean, there's just no way. I mean, it was just, you know, it's, They already know how dangerous it is. And, you know, he's still going out there looking for that.

1:13:57 That's classic horror film, though, right? Oh, I hate it. It drives me crazy, though. It's like the daughter, right? I understand what they're trying to do because she's playing a moment, right? She goes out in the garage to listen to her music because she wants to listen to the music and remember what it's like to be a teen. And she's all unfulfilled dreams, never will be. And I understand, you know. All the freaking, you know, you know, I can't even remember what the song was. The guy from Traffic. I can't even remember. But somebody help me out. But anyhow, she's in the song. She's playing the loud music and she's got the lights of the car on. And every dinosaur from, like, you know, Kentucky to freaking Mississippi would be down on top of her, like, chewing her intestines out. And it's just like, oh no, she's downstairs making noise outside after everybody knows.

1:14:42 I think the car was in her garage when that was going on. Still, I mean, dinosaurs would pick up on everything, right? I literally thought they were doing just that on purpose because that's just a horror movie trope, right? Yeah, but I hate that stuff. I thought that was part of the deal of watching a movie like this. You had to sit through that. She's supposed to be an astronomer she's supposed to be a smart one right and she's like you know even less intelligent than her brother so it's just you know the fact that the bully still wants to beat him up even though you beat my brother broke his arm and like that doesn't have any notion of self-preservation it's like let me stop and take a moment of petty revenge for you hurting my brother even though it will probably get me devoured by you know by dinosaurs a lot of silly behavior that I think the movie was probably smarter than some of those dumb things still, I would probably land on, ultimately, I had a good time with it. The freaking special effects, like Charles said, were amazing. Uh, the snake in particular. I mean, uh, we just had a really great giant snake in, uh, uh, Mandalorian Grogu, uh, at the start of the summer, and I think this one might even rival that. It was just so great.

1:15:54 I just mentioned super, super briefly, um, they shot an alternate ending for this that they decided not to go with, right? Um, they did another ending where the wormhole spit them back out in the future, but they missed their target, right? And instead, going back to the suburbs, they spill out into the American prairies of the 1800s settler era, right? And they're completely freaking stranded in another harsh, unfamiliar past. They're home gone, and the husband is still dead back in Dinosaur Town, right? And so it was the whole idea of The Nightmare Continues were trapped in a different loop of historical survival. They tested it and the audience hated it. Right. They didn't they did not like that at all. They really liked her. Anne Hathaway, you know, they felt very moved by her ability to use this loophole to save her husband. Right. So they decided to go with that. But I just thought it was interesting.

1:16:55 I think they thought it was too dark. Well, I mean, Paul, so for me, when I read about that original ending, I thought to myself, isn't that much more like a standard horror movie, like good horror movie ending? They almost always end with this like kind of hopelessness at the end. Right. And so to me, when I saw this movie and it kind of inserted the American idea of a happy ending into a creature feature that should have had a uh, very sad ending. It was a little bit weird. Yeah. It just felt unprecedented. I just hadn't like experienced another movie that was kind of like on that very line.

1:17:39 Yeah. It's a surprising choice, right? It kind of is, but it's just interesting how like, you know, uh, we're hearing with a lot of pictures and this one in particular, right? I mean, a lot of it got shaped by Anne Hathaway. I think she had a lot of clout and in terms of what she wanted to see happen. And, uh, and, Still, more and more, they test it in front of audiences and they let the democracy decide, right? So it's like. Whatever the original vision of the filmmaker is is often, sorry, the audience didn't like it, and they choose another direction. So it's weird. Art by committee. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't think I feel great. That has me thinking about, wasn't there a movie once that had an ending that people voted on and then a certain ending... Oh, no, I'm sorry. I know what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of what they did with Batman and Robin back in the day. Never mind.

1:18:31 Is that the nipples Batman? No, it has to do with whether or not they were going to let Jason Todd live or die. Well, this was fun. It was interesting to talk about. and i hope we i know we had to sort of you know to really talk about it we had to get into spoiler country but uh. But i enjoyed it right i mean i think it would have been really hellishly fun to see in the theater would be my take every now and then you watch some of these movies on home video right and you're still like It's fun. I'm with you, Paul. I kind of wish I had seen it in the theater. There's no substitute for the shock moment of a really great monster picture in a big theater with people screaming.

1:19:14 It's great. I love it. This would have been a good theater movie. It was awesome, Paul. I was so glad that you set me on to this movie because I never heard of it. So. Yeah, note to the people at the marketing department, how did they miss you? I mean, how did you not know that they're not marketing very well? Jim is literally the target audience. Yeah, I know. Note to the studio, the folks at Bad Robot, don't forget to market to Vermont, okay? Because clearly you're missing out. Call them up on a payphone. Yeah, call me on a payphone. I remember seeing a couple of movies this summer and got to see that preview twice. And I didn't want to see it. I just got too busy and didn't get around to seeing it. Now I'm sorry I didn't see it in the theater. Because this was definitely a theater movie.

1:20:07 So Charles, here's one thing that I will mention. I also saw those same trailers because I did see a ton of movies this summer. I don't think the trailers did a good job of. Giving you the mood of this movie. Like this movie feels very, very unique to me. And I feel like it was marketed as a standard creature feature with good actors. And I just don't like, there was something that they could have done differently. I feel like in the trailers to make it more, because I saw the trailer and I was like, ah, I'm going to pass. And then I saw the movie and I liked it. So something's off there, right? I kind of saw the trailer and it piqued my interest.

1:20:50 It got my attention. Where a lot of trailers didn't get my... I don't want to say that. I saw that one and I was like, that got my attention. But that's kind of J.J., right? I mean, this is produced by J.J. Abrams and he loves the mystery box, right? He loves to keep it secret and not tell you what you're going to get and give you a little tickle. But he doesn't like to drop trow and show you the full package. No, not at all. But the tickle here was too... like horror-y. Yeah. It was a little bleak, right? It was a little bleak, yeah. It didn't really sell well the experience. Yeah. So, I don't know. Agree, agree, yeah. But fun stuff, you know, I mean, I think it's just in, you know, franchise city that we live in now, it's just refreshing to see a picture like this can still get made. It's basically like a big Fat Twilight Zone episode, right? Yeah, it's neat.

1:21:38 And I think people who went and saw it probably really liked it. So, that's my guess. Well, I guess the fact that we're all talking about it. What did our truck spurts think about the end of Oak Street? I didn't really keep track of scores on it. But I think overall we had a good. Feels like about a 7.8. That's what I'm calling. Let's just do a 7.9. Screw you, David. 7 of 9, come on! 7 of 9. I think I saw it got. I think on Rotten Tomatoes it was something like 86%.

1:22:19 Yes. If I remember that correctly. I think the, the, I posted this earlier. I think there were like eighties for the fan eighties for the eighties for the eighties for the critics, like 70 somethings for the fans, which overall, I think that was a good score for this kind of movie. That's, that's doing well. So, I got a quick question to ask you guys really quick before we move on. I'm not telling you my phone number. Back in the 80s, before I was alive, I just wanted to know, were there a lot of people who carried around loose chains quite a bit?

1:23:02 All the time. Yeah. Yeah. You have to understand that in the 1980s, David, we did not pay for anything with credit cards or debit cards. Literally everything was cash. So if you didn't have a 20 in your pocket, you weren't buying whatever you thought you were going to buy. Or we wrote a check for it, which is a whole different thing. I always had change in case, like if I was at the mall with my friends and You know, we wanted to stay longer or whatever we'd call whatever parent was supposed to pick us up. So David's asking because he's wondering why she came back to her own time and suddenly had 10 cents in her pocket. And the answer is because everybody had 10 cents in their pocket at that time.

1:23:47 Yeah. Well, you know, you want to play Pac-Man and Asteroids or Space Invaders, you've got to have a quarter. Yeah, I just thought it was a little strange that she needs to bring coins with her throughout the whole movie. No, it's not at all. Maybe it doesn't seem as bad as I thought it would, but still. My core is still the same. Now, if that movie happened today, if that took place in 2026 and she had a pocket full of change, I would think that's weird. You know. And you're about to buy a payphone. Yeah working payphone that's even more weird yeah so that wraps up our end of Oak Street Paul had to bounce early but he'll be back again next week and that brings us up to our sci-fi birthdays guys That.

1:24:41 Was not a Klingon song. Alright guys, we always start off our sci-fi birthdays remembering those members of our sci-fi family who sadly enough are no longer with us. And for that, we turn to Eric. Yeah, this week, Jim, we start with the actress Margaret Ruth Kidder. You recognize that face, right? She's the Canadian-American actress, director, and activist. who amassed several film and television credits in her career spanning over five decades, including her widely known role as Lois Lane in the Superman films. One, two, three, maybe four?

1:25:37 I can't remember. She does have over 136 credits to her IMDb page, which I didn't realize how prolific she was back in the day. I did first see her myself in 1979 is the Amityville horror. She was also in two episodes of Smallville, which was kind of a nice like callback to the Superman movies back in the day. Um, but maybe from David's era, not sure she was in 17 episodes of captain planet and the planet tears as well, which actually was a fantastically awesome show, especially for, uh, Somebody who is really into environmentalism in the 90s. It was great. She also won two Canadian Film Awards, an Emmy Award, a Genie Award, and a Saturn Award along the way. So happy birthday to Margaret Kidder. Happy birthday as well to Julie Adams, the American actress who in her early career primarily was known for her numerous films television guest roles uh we just said margaret uh kidder had 136 imdb credits julie adams has 148 um if you can imagine a show back in the 60s 70s or 80s she was probably on it um she starred in a number of films in the 1950s including bend

1:27:10 of the river opposite uh jimmy stewart And also Creature from the Black Lagoon, the original, which we have an awesome photo shoot on the screen here of. I didn't realize she was in a movie with Elvis. So there you go. But Julie Adams, kind of an unsung hero of the screen. She was in everything. I encourage everyone to just go check out her IMDb page because we simply don't have enough time here to really... celebrate all of the contributions she's made to American entertainment along the way. But we lost Julie Adams back in 2019. Happy birthday, Julie Adams. Happy birthday as well to Patricia McNulty, the actress who played Tina Lawton in the original series for season episode, Charlie X, which we were just talking about with the silver eyes and whatnot. She attended California state university, Long Beach university, until 1962 when her brief acting career spanning from 1961 to 1967 began to unfold, and her first and last television appearances, first and last television appearances, both of them began on My Three Sons. Yeah, how about that? She was cast in smaller roles in the 1960s, then took a long break from acting until she had an additional acting credit uh 17 years later in the movie the house of god from 1984 so i'm pretty

1:28:44 sure i actually first saw her in my three sons before i saw her in star trek uh because that was definitely one of those shows that was on in reruns back when i was a kid but patricia mcnulty We just lost her a few years ago back in 2023 at the ripe old age of 80 years old. Happy birthday to her. Happy birthday as well to actor Michael Dunn, the Academy Award-nominated, Tony Award-nominated American actor who portrayed Alexander in the TOS third season episode Plato's Stepchildren. Very talented film and stage actor. Actor Dunn was born with, I'm going to try my best on this, Spondylopithecil dysplasia. Yeah, there you go. Anyway, it's commonly called dwarfism. He's a little person, but he refused to let this disorder hinder his goals and managed to avoid the typecasting commonly associated with actors of short stature. At one point, Dunn was considered by Gene Roddenberry for the role of Spock in The Cage. Man, there are so many great actors that were considered for that role. I love that he was one of them. He was also originally considered for the role of Balok, of course, in the Cobra Might Maneuver.

1:30:04 That role eventually going to Clint Howard. He made his major film debut as Glocken in the Stanley Kramer 1965 drama Ship of Fools. And for his performance in this film, he received an Academy Award nomination as Best Actor in a supporting role. Thank you so much to Michael Dunn for all that you've contributed to stage and film along the way. We lost you, unfortunately, when you were way too young at 38 years old back in 1973. And last but not least on my birthday list, we are going beyond and we are saying happy birthday to Ms.

1:30:45 Carrie Fisher, the American actress, and writer, of course, best known as Princess Leia in the original Star Wars films, reprised that role in The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi, and a posthumous release, The Last Jedi being the posthumous release that was dedicated to her, The Rise of Skywalker, the latter being unreleased footage from The Force Awakens. So one of the first actresses I can remember whose sort of digital representation was used after she was gone. Her other film credits include things like Shampoo, which has a fantastic story behind it we will talk about during another time of the year relative to another birthday. She was also, of course, in The Blues Brothers, Hannah and Her Sisters, The Burbs, When Harry Met Sally, Soap Dish, which also has a great story behind it, and The Women. She was nominated twice for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series for her performance in the NBC sitcom 30 Rock and the Channel 4 series Catastrophe.

1:31:57 But you know what I did? I was kind of just very interested in and of myself, and I don't like to use AI very often, but I will admit that I went this afternoon and I typed in What's the best obscure Carrie Fisher appearance in TV or movies? Yeah. Well, I don't know if this is true or not, but what AI told me was that she was in the movie Scream 3 from 2000. She plays Bianca Burnett, a studio archivist receptionist who bears a striking resemblance to Carrie Fisher and bitterly jokes. That she lost the part of Princess Leia only because George Lucas slept with who knows whom. So I haven't seen Scream 3, but I feel like that's enough to make me want to watch that movie. Happy birthday and lots of love going out to Carrie Fisher. My Princess Leia, one of my obviously very first boyhood... uh, hetero crutches crushes. She was amazing. Uh, and just like so strong and like, you know, she played such a.

1:33:14 Great, she kicked ass before female actors. That's what I'm saying. She was the first ass kicking female lead that we, even before Ripley, you know, before Sarah Connor, we got princess Leia who would kick your ass 15 ways to Sunday and then, you know, come back and do it again. And then kiss her brother. Who you call in scruffy looking and she also um i don't know if you ever watched family guy but she voiced peter's boss angela uh and she was hilarious okay yep she was on voiced on family guy.

1:34:04 I love that. Well, happy birthday to Carrie Fisher. It's hard to believe that she's been gone. I know. Ten years now, you guys. Like in December, it'll be ten years that we lost Carrie Fisher. It feels like yesterday to me. I was actually surprised to hear the news when that happened. I was like, whoa. Yeah. And then with her mother, because her mother just, they were so close. And that just was, that was heartbreaking. Yeah. All right. Well, that does it, folks, for our remembrances. So, yeah, V, take it away. This time I get the, now it's appropriate to have the. Flaming birthday candle. Now it is a flaming birthday candle. Yeah. Wait, hold on. Let's just be clear. Shout outs, megaphone.

1:34:48 Okay. Birthdays, candle. Yeah. I think we got that. I said megaphone. That's what I've been saying, the flaming megaphone. All right. Well, my first happy birthday goes out to Todd Stashwick. He played Taloc in the Star Trek or Taloc Enterprise fourth season episode Kershara and Captain Liam Shaw in the third season of Star Trek Picard. Next happy birthday. I have one word for you, V. One simple word. No.

1:35:30 No. Okay. All right. You mean no from the dipshit from Chicago? Yes, that guy. All right. Happy birthday goes out to Joe Morton. He played Admiral Simon Rieger in the Strange New Worlds fourth season episode of Orders of Magnitude. He's perhaps best known for his role as Miles Dyson in Terminator 2 Judgment Day, where we learned that AI is not a good thing. Uh, anyway, uh, next goes happy birthday to Sabrina Scharf. She's a former actress who played, oh, one of my favorite roles, uh, Miramani in the Star Trek Original Series third season episode, The Paradise Syndrome. That was a really, I thought that was a really good episode. Next, happy birthday goes to Michael McKean. He's actor, comedian, composer, musician, and director who played that super creepy clown in the Voyager second season episode, The Saw. He's perhaps best known for playing Leonard Lenny Kosnowski opposite David L. Lander's Andrew Squiggy Squigman on the popular situation comedy series Laverne and Shirley. Also, he was

1:37:01 in all the, you know, this is Spinal Tap and Best in Show and Waiting for Guffman, et cetera, et cetera. He was awesome. And last but not least, somebody whose husband I met back in March, Catherine Kitty Swink. She played Minister Roseanne in DS9' s second season episode, Sanctuary, and Luaran in the seventh season episode, Tacking into the Wind. She also provided the voice of Luaran in the video game Star Trek Deep Space Nine, The Fallen. She's been married to Deep Space Nine regular Armin Shimmerman. since 1981.

1:37:46 And I have to add that she actually, she survived pancreatic cancer. She had some apparently groundbreaking treatment. And so she and Armin and other people do support, you know, charities to help people that are dealing with that. So good people. Anyway. All right. Who's, all right, now we've got Paul's birthdays who wants to read them eric. You want to do some live people i am happy to. Take on some live folks we are wishing a very happy birthday this week to felicity jones who of course portrayed jen Erso in Rogue One, a Star Wars story, a fantastic movie. Jones's other films include The Amazing Spider-Man 2, The Thriller's True Story, which is one of my favorites, and Inferno, the fantasy drama A Monster Calls. and the streaming films The Aeronauts, The Midnight Sky, and The Last Letter from Your Lover. She's probably the biggest actress you've never heard of. I first saw her absolutely in Doctor Who.

1:39:02 You recognize that face, Charles, right? Yeah, Felicity Jones graced our presence many years ago as part of, I believe, David Tennant's Doctor Who run, if I remember. Oh, no, no, no. Sorry, that's a Matt Smith episode, if I remember correctly. Anyway, Felicity Jones, born in 1983. We're so happy that you are part of the acting annals out there that we get to celebrate and enjoy. Thanks for being part of the Star Wars end of things, which I'm sure is what got you on our list. Happy birthday as well to the real-life Mae Jemison. Yes, that one. She's the American physician and astronaut, the first African-American woman to travel in space aboard the shuttle Endeavour. She also served as science mission specialist on the STS-47 Space Lab J flight, which launched on September 12, 1992. Jemison was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame in 1993. Yeah, she is a heavy hitter, y'all. She also is a Star Trek fan, appearing as Lieutenant Junior Grade Palmer in the Next Generation Six Season episode, Second Chances. I just have to say.

1:40:21 Oh, sorry, Jim. I will let you go, but I'm just going to say my piece real quick on Mae Jemison. For me, as a kid growing up in the 70s and 80s, the shuttle missions... where the way that I connected to space and they, I literally cried the day that they decommissioned the space shuttle. And I remember Mae Jemison going up into space for the very first time. And although, you know, I may not have like personal connections with regards to her, her sex or her race or that sort of stuff. I recognized what she was doing for space travel that no other person was doing, even when I was a kid. So I just wanted to say my own personal, um, like congratulations and just like awesomeness to Mae Jemison. I would still love to meet her one day. She's still with us, right? She's only 50 or excuse me, 70 years old. Maybe I'll get a chance, but we have a great picture of her and Michelle Nichols here from when she was actually on the set of The Next Generation.

1:41:22 So yeah, go ahead, Jim. The dog was biting the cat's head. I'm trying to break them up. Not again. Poor Anakin. Happy birthday to... Oh, yeah. Go ahead. I want to jump in because when I finally started getting back to Star Trek inventions, I could not make the 50th anniversary, so I was at the 51st and decided to go in the main theater. And the first person I got to see on a panel was May. She came in, talked about being on Star Trek, talked about being an astronaut. And then to end her panel, Michelle came on stage. And the two of them then talked a little bit to the audience then. It's like, that was really impressive to seeing her on stage and Michelle coming out and talking about her and being involved in NASA program.

1:42:25 She's out there. There's a possibility of her coming out occasionally to see the fans. That would have been an awesome experience, Charles. I'm so happy you got to do that. Yeah, she just seems like a really cool gal. So happy birthday to real-life astronaut Mae Jemison. Happy birthday as well to Viggo Mortensen Jr. Yeah, that one. Danish-American actor and filmmaker who has received various accolades, including Actor Awards and Critics' Choice Awards, as well as nominations for three Academy Awards, three BAFTA Awards, and four Golden Globe Awards. He, of course, made his film debut in Peter Weir's 1985 movie Witness. but probably really gained international attention for his breakthrough role as Aragorn in the fantasy trilogy The Lord of the Rings. The hair and the half beard and the gauntlets and the sword and everything.

1:43:36 Barely irresistible. Viggo Mortensen Jr., very talented actor, born in 1958, still with us. Thank you very much. Happy birthday to you, sir. Happy birthday as well to Saffron Burrows, the actress who played Commander Cassell in the Strange New Worlds four-season episode, Valis Marineris. Yeah, she was the Martian lady, right, in that very first episode from this past season. A season which I think we would probably put the best episode, like that was one of the best episodes, right? So thanks for being part of that. Uh, next we are wishing happy birthday to actor Christopher Lloyd, the American veteran actor, voice actor, and comedian who played the role of cruise in star Trek three, the search for Spock, perhaps best recognized of course, for his role on the television series taxi and in the back to the future film series.

1:44:36 But like, what hasn't this guy been in? Right? Like you're talking to Adam's family, uh, You're talking Roger Rabbit. I mean, there's like a hundred million things that Christopher Lloyd has been in. I would consider him among those kind of like elite actors of our time. our generation can i say our generation when we span multiple generations you know what i'm talking about he's somebody we're all familiar with and thank you christopher lloyd for being kind of a weird but also with like weirdly fun klingon uh in the role of cruge and last but not least i would like to say happy birthday to sam witware who played the zindi arboreal uh yeah just one of them in the Enterprise third season episode, The Shipment, as well as Lenog and Malor in Lower Deck's fifth season episode, A Farewell to Farms. He's known for his roles as Crashdown in Battlestar Galactica, Davis Bloom in Smallville, Aiden Waite in Being Human, Mr. Hyde in Once Upon a Time, Ben Lockwood in Supergirl, Rupert Chipping in Riverdale, and the voice of Darth Maul in Star Wars. Holy all over the place. Sam Witwer, you sound like the guy whose name nobody knows, but you're in every single thing.

1:46:00 I want to learn more about you. I know that Jim loves your portrayal of this lovely Klingon from Lower Decks. So happy birthday to you, sir. I'm sorry that you had to play the Zindi arboreal, but you know, what are you. Going to do? Happy birthday to you. And that does it for my living birthdays, Jim. So I don't know. How'd I do? Can I do the living and the dead? Well, I think you do dead better. You're probably right. I'm a little more comfortable around them. I, uh. I customize this list just for Paul. So, um, I try to customize the list.

1:46:46 So what you're saying, Jim, is that the issue isn't with the list. It's with the person reading the list. I think that's what I just heard. I know. I thought of the fact that Paul would have had so much more insight to every single one of those than I did, but that's just because of the kind of weirdly detail-oriented guy he is. Wow. We got through it, though. We got through it. We did. We did. Just barely. We did. And that brings us up to a new segment. I don't think it's new anymore, but it's Uncle Jim's Trek-talking movie of the week, week, week, week, week, week. So each week, hundreds of movies come out. And so I try to pick some that I think will be of interest to you guys, our viewers. And I picked one that I think you should watch if you haven't, or maybe go back and revisit if you haven't seen it in a while. So we're going to start off with the first movie, Candyman, which was released on October 16, 1992.

1:47:56 It's an American urban gothic starring Virginia Madison and Tony Todd as Candyman. Yes, that Tony Todd, Commander Kern, Worf's brother from Star Trek, based on a Clive Barker short story, The Forbidden. The film follows a Chicago graduate student completing her thesis on urban legends and folklore, which leads her to the legend of the Candyman. the hook-handed ghost of an African-American artist and son of a slave who was lynched in the late 19th century for his relationship with the daughter of a wealthy white man and who now appears whenever you say. His name five times in the mirror. That was Candyman.

1:48:39 Next on our list, I Know What You Did Last Summer was released on October 17, 1997. It's an American slasher film starring Jennifer Love Lewitt, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Ryan, and Freddie Prinze Jr. as teenage friends who are stalked by a hook-wielding killer one year after covering up his car accident in which they supposedly killed a man. It was directed by Jim Gillespie and written by Kevin Williamson, who adopted the 1973 novel. It's the first film in the No, I Know What You Did Last Summer series. Next on the list, I have The Ring.

1:49:21 Which was released on October 18, 2002. It's an American supernatural horror film directed by Gore Verbinski and written by Ian Kruger. It stars Naomi Watts, Martin Henderson, David Dorfman, and Brian Cox. The film follows Rachel Keller, a journalist who discovers a cursed VHS tape that causes viewers to die within seven days of watching it. Super creepy movie. And I love the VHS tape going in the background, David. I guess we're all going to die in seven days and we'll get to do the podcast next week. That's the cursed VHS tape. Yep, there it is. David dug it out for us. There you have it. The Rings. Next on our list, 30 Days of Night was released on October 19, 2007.

1:50:08 It's an American horror film based on the 2002 comic book miniseries of the same name by Steve Niles, who co-wrote the film's screenplay. Directed by David Slade and starring Josh Harnett, Melissa George from the Amityville remake, The story focuses on an Alaskan town beset by vampires as it enters into a 30-day long polar night. 30 days of night. Next on our list, we have Halloween. This is the new Halloween. Released on October 19, 2018. American slasher film directed by David Gordon Green, who co-wrote it with Jeff Bradley and Danny McBride. It's the 11th installment in the Halloween film series. and a direct sequel to The Halloween II of 1978. The film stars Jamie Lee Curtis reprising her role as Laurie Strode, Judy Greer, Annie Matchick, and Will Patton. The plot follows a post-traumatic Laurie Strode who prepares to face an escaped Michael Myers in a final showdown on Halloween night, 40 years after surviving the killing spree in the original movie, Halloween. Next on our list, you know, these are all horror movies because we're in October.

1:51:27 The Puppet Masters was released on October 21, 1994, an American science fiction horror film adapted from Robert A. Heinlein's 1951 novel, in which a trio of American government agents attempt to thwart a covert invasion of Earth, mind-controlling alien parasites. The film stars Donald Sutherland from the original, no, not the original, the remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Eric Thal, Keith David, who was in The Thing and They Live, Julie Warner from Star Trek The Next Generation, and Andrew Robinson, also from Star Trek, the puppet master's And last on my list, which was released today, Bats was released on October 22, 1999. It's an American horror film that stars Lou Diamond Phillips and Dina Meyer. Yes, that Dina Meyer from Starship Troopers and Star Trek. She played that awesome Romulan commander. and Bob Gunton, also from Star Trek as well. A hostile swarm of genetically mutated bats terrorizes a local Texas town, and it's up to the zoologist Sheila Casper, who teams up with the town sheriff Emmett Kemsley to exterminate the creatures of the night before they take any more lives. So what movie do I recommend out of this awesome list for you to check out if you haven't seen it or revisit it

1:52:58 if you haven't seen it in a while? David! An unexpected guest has arrived. Something unusual was reported entering our atmosphere last night. And soon, everyone's life will be transformed. Because this guest isn't just visiting. Still moving. What the hell is that? A visitor, I presume. It's looking. For a whole unit. The probe penetrates the brain while these hooks lock into the spinal column. Using us like puppets?

1:53:39 For being manipulated. They're capable of transmitting not just intelligence, but memory. We're only human, after all. Don't move, Adam! Secure the building. One day, 4,000. Two days, 16,000. In two weeks, there will be more than $ 250 billion. You can't move unless they let you. We've lost a cow, now we've. Lost an eye. Danny! They're using children. You cannot think of them any longer as children. You can't scream until they make you. You can't escape when the enemy is within you.

1:54:19 It's now that you know what to do. Donald Sutherland. Get it off him! Get it off! The Puppet Masters. So I chose this movie because I think it flew under the radar. I think a lot of people either missed it or just didn't care enough about it. But it's a really fun, very suspenseful alien invasion type sci-fi movie. And as I said, it does have some Star Trek actors in it that you might notice. And I enjoyed it. And it was a lot of fun. And if you haven't seen it, please check it out. I think you'll enjoy it. And if you have seen it and you haven't seen it in a while, you know, it's Halloween.

1:55:05 Go and check it out. Fun movie. Well, Jim, what you didn't mention before now that I just learned from the trailer was that this was a Robert Heinlein novel. And for anybody who's a sci-fi fan, I mean, you know him from Starship Troopers, Stranger in a Strange Land, like so many other super famous books. So I've never seen this movie, but the fact that it's a Robert Heinlein story, I. Mean, It reminded me of Operation Annihilate on Star Trek with the pancake monsters that suck onto the backs of people. These aliens were kind of like that.

1:55:51 They kind of had an alien vibe with the eggs opening and stuff. Yeah, it's a fun movie. It really is a fun. And you'll have fun guessing who's an alien and who's not and whatnot and who's leading the invasion. I won't tell you if you haven't seen it, but check it out. Puppet Masters, really fun movie. All right, guys, that's Uncle Jim's movie pick of the week, which means now it's time for... Star Trek news, and unfortunately we don't have a Shatner Says What. We do have some sad news, and Eric is going to get us started with it.

1:56:49 Yeah, Jim, Michael Forrest, the actor from Roger Corman movies and Star Trek dies at 97 years old. Michael Forrest, the strapping actor who starred in Beast from Haunted Cave and other B pictures for Roger Corman and made memorable guest appearances on classic episodes of The Twilight Zone, The Dick Van Dyke Show, and Star Trek has unfortunately died. He was 97 years old. Forrest was living in a facility for seniors in Sparks, Nevada, and died Wednesday, his friend James A. Brown announced. A native of North Dakota, Forrest also made more than 20 movies in Spain, France, and England, among them 100 Rifles, starring Jim Brown and Raquel Welsh, and was a very busy voice actor who is fluent in Italian, dubbing more than 500 films while living in Rome. From 1968 to 1978.

1:57:47 Wait. Wait, hold on. He lived in Rome for 10 years, right? 365 days times 10, that's 3,600 days. He made 500 films in 3,600 days. Wow. Days five he made 500 films in 3600 days somebody like that's crazy right okay one day after finishing work on beast from haunted cave forest was back at it starring as an american soldier in the roger corman directed war flick ski troop attack from 1968 And after that, he quickly headed to Athens to portray the title hero in Atlas from 1960, with Corman seeking to hone in on the popular Hercules picture that starred Steve Reeves. Forrest played one of the three motorcycle-riding brothers from Another Planet, alongside Lee Kingsolving and Tom Guerin. He was also sent to wipe out humans on Earth on a Twilight Zone episode, Black Leather Jackets, which starred Shelley Faberis and premiered on January 2nd, 1964. Nine days later, he was on CBS again on The Dick Van Dyke Show as a former love interest of.

1:59:09 Laura, a.k.a. Mary Tyler Moore, who's now a priest. Getting set up with Rosemary's Sally Rogers was great for a few laughs on the episode the life and love of Joe Coogan. And on the second season Star Trek episode, Who Mourns for Adonis, that first aired on September 1967, he portrayed the Greek god Apollo, who demands that the crew of the Starship Enterprise worship him as he falls for Lieutenant Carol Palamas, as we all did. In 2013, he returned as Apollo on the fan-produced series Star Trek Continues to work alongside his late wife, Diana Hale as Athena. He and Hale were married for 52 years until her death in 2022. Of course, we just lost him, as we were saying. He said, I look back, and it certainly hasn't been what you might call a distinguished career, but on the other hand, it hasn't been bad. Some of the things that I've done, I take a great deal of pride in, but like all actors, you do work in materials and situations that are not what you want And you try to make the best that you can.

2:00:22 Acting has its ups and downs. Thank you so much to Michael Forrest. You made some great contributions to all of American television through all of your various appearances along the way. I still can't believe that you dubbed more than 500 films in 10 years. That seems crazy to me. So good for you for keeping busy. Happy birthday and lots of love going out to Michael Forrest, our most recent loss in the Star Trek world. And David, I am now going to pass the next story on to you, and I'm pretty sure it's going to have a little bit more of a positive bent to it.

2:01:08 Maybe, but yeah. So this is a little bit of sad news. Whoops. Sorry, wrong button. This is a little bit of a sad news for those who are aware of BioWare, the studio who made this fun little game called Mass Effect. So, for more than 30 years, BioWare has been more than a studio. It has been home for storytellers, developers, and the players who brought our world to life. Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age, Anthem, and my most favorite game, Mass Effect. So, Now, after more than three decades of shared adventures, Bioware is closing and early development on the next Mass Effect project is ending.

2:01:56 Really sad. There is nothing easy about writing those words. Our focus right now is on our incredible talented team who put their hearts into these games and supporting one another through these transitions. What generations of Bioware built together is something to celebrate and remember these games became so much more because you played them, debated your choices, fell in love with the characters, and made these worlds your own. From all of us at Bioware, thank you for being the most meaningful part of our story. I would add.

2:02:41 In my opinion. I would say do not worry, though. I'm sure someone, some company, will purchase the IP for Bioware sometime down the timeline, and the games that were cancelled will resume, and even more awesome games will be made. It's only a matter of time. But for my favorite game of all time that Bioware made has to be Mass Effect for me. For me, I did fall in love with the characters, debated my choices. I even made a YouTube channel where I played the first of the Mass Effect trilogy. You guys can just go there and watch what I did with my choices. I created my character.

2:03:22 I even created a world of my own to escape. And it was fun. It was really fun. So let me take a moment to play a farewell clip to Mass Effect to say my goodbyes to this awesome company that made many memories for me throughout my youth. Here's hoping that Mass Effect will one day make a comeback and many other honorable mentions for Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, Baldur's Gate, and Dragon Age. Keela Shalai. We've been through a. Lot, haven't we? But it's been a good ride.

2:04:18 So that's sad news for me, but I'm pretty sure one day someone's going to bring up the idea of the new game that was supposed to be in development, but apparently they canceled it. So I was like, no! But yeah, it's a really fun game. I really encourage people to go check it out because... you do make choices that matter a lot. So. All right. So that wraps up our sci-fi Star Trek news for this week. In fact, that wraps up our show for this week. I want to take an opportunity to say thank you to Paul for hanging out with us and Shrek talking with us and turning us on to the end of Oak Street. Thank you so much, Paul. He'll be back next week. I want to say thank you to Eric for hanging out and Shrek talking with us tonight. Thank you so much, Eric.

2:05:07 Oh, for sure. Had a great time. And thank you so much to V as well for hanging out and talking with us as usual. Thank you, V. And thank you to David, not only for talking with us, but for putting together these awesome videos that our fans hopefully can see and enjoy. Thank you, David. Yeah, it's been really fun. And of course, thank you to Charles for hanging out and talking with us as well. Thank you, Charles. Thank you. Always fun. And I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. I just want you guys to know next week we're going to do Star Trek horror, creepy, scary episodes in honor of Halloween.

2:05:49 So tune in for that to find out what we think are the creepiest, scariest moments in Star Trek. And I want to say to everybody, please stay safe and be good to each other. Hailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody. Good night. Live long and prosper. Hi, Al. Mom, dinner's ready if you want to come eat. Dad made barbecue. Okay. Be right down. Okay.

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