May 30, 2025

Episode 638- Comic Corner- Lower Decks issue 4-5

Episode 638- Comic Corner- Lower Decks issue 4-5
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Star Trek Lower DecksComic Corner

In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and his Cohosts navigate through technical difficulties while introducing special guests and discussing upcoming shows. They engage with their global fan community through shoutouts and explore ethical dilemmas presented in Star Trek, particularly focusing on Burnham's decision in a pivotal episode. The conversation highlights the importance of preserving life and the moral responsibilities of characters within the Star Trek universe, culminating in a lively debate among the hosts. In this segment of the conversation, the hosts delve into the use of profanity in Star Trek, particularly focusing on the character Sylvia Tilly's use of the F-word in Star Trek: Discovery. They discuss the mixed reactions from fans, highlighting a generational divide in perceptions of language in media. The conversation then transitions to a review of Lower Decks Issue Four, which received criticism for its heavy reliance on technobabble and lack of engaging storytelling. In contrast, Issue Five is praised for its inventive storytelling, humor, and clever references to Star Trek lore, showcasing the series' ability to connect with its audience and maintain the spirit of Star Trek. In this episode, the hosts review the latest Star Trek Lower Decks episodes, sharing their ratings and favorite moments. They also pay tribute to notable Star Trek figures on their birthdays, discussing their contributions to the franchise. The conversation shifts to recent Star Trek news, including the passing of comic writer Peter David and updates on upcoming projects featuring legacy actors. In this engaging conversation, the hosts explore the upcoming Star Trek series that diverges from the traditional Federation narrative, delving into the unique aspects of the new project. They welcome a new Trek expert, Victoria, who shares her favorite Star Trek movies and her personal journey into the Star Trek fandom. The discussion also touches on historical insights related to the Revolutionary War and how they connect to Star Trek themes, as well as Victoria's experiences at conventions and her aspirations for future events. The episode concludes with a sense of community and excitement for the future of Star Trek. Lets's see what's out there...ENGAGE!

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a mess. It is Thursday twenty ninth, twenty twenty five.

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live of some type, and we're having some technical difficulties,

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but we're gonna just crash on through. How may most

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excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the show, and I

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want to introduce to you Eric. Eric is out in Portland.

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How you doing tonight, Eric, I'm doing okay.

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Jim.

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Looks like my virtual background has turned enough, so now

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you get to look at my basement for the rest

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of the show, So have fun with that.

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That's okay, that's fine. We also have out in Portland,

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we have Paul the toy Guy. How you doing tonight, Paul.

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I've been doing okay. I'm doing well. I'm actually not

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in a basement, which I'm glad to be able to report,

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because you know, you can only take that chocolate night

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thing so far.

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Right.

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You know, Lert's been living on like lichen and moss

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and like basically strange earwigs for the last.

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You know, the center of the Earth.

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Yeah, he's got a mashome going out of the front

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of his head. It's just been delicious. It's been tough, right,

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you know, the apocalypse started early here in the Pacific Northwest.

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But we are.

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Given we're all here in the Swiss Watch that is

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trek talking and beyond. We are trying to cope as

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best we can.

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We're doing the best we can. And also out in

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Portland we have our miracle work. David. How you doing, David?

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I'm reading trying to figure out how to fix your grimlins.

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Okay, do not feed them after midnight, don't get them west,

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and keep them out of the daylight. What those are

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the three rules? Man? And we have lost Charles. We're

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having some technical difficulty with Charles, and we don't want

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to He'll be back here eventually. And there he is,

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and coming from Wye from Las Vegas, swaying palm trees

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and all. We have a very own Charles. Charles, How

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you doing?

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I'm doing all right the moment. I can't see anybody,

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but hopefully that fixes as it goes. Trying to stay

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cool as we're getting our high temperatures.

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Again, let me see where is Charles?

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He just talked. He's all good?

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Oh is Charles? Okay?

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Yeah, he just gave his little intro.

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We're all good, okay, because I can't hear Charles and

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Charles can't see anyone, so that works good.

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I'm watching my film.

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All right, I can hear you guys.

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All right, Well I can't hear Charles. Charles can't see us.

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But that's okay. We're going to forge ahead. We have

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with us a brand new Truk expert. We have VB

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is out in h in Colonial Williamsburg in Virginia. Welcome

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to the show. V.

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I'm so excited to be here.

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Oh I don't know about that.

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Excited to have you.

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Despite all of our little fun, I'm pretty sure be

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lost at bet.

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V V doesn't have a has no social life, so

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but this, this will suffice.

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A perfect response.

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That's a great reason to hang out with nothing else

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going on.

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So I'm either on I'm either on the internet or

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or I'm doing both. Actually I have I'm watching something

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Star Trek and I'm what do they call it doom

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scrolling on the hinternet.

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Well, at least one if I showed inform that's right.

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Yeah, Well, I've got my Truk talking shirt on and

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Paul has his Jaws fiftieth anniversary shirt.

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On, right, Paul, is that making it?

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And it's in there.

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It's in there, all right, bucket.

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I want to let you guys know that we have

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a special show, and I mean very special show playing

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for you guys. Bruce Horrick, who played Hemmer on the

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first season of Strange New World. He's going to be

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with us right here live. When I say a special show,

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I mean that He's only available on Tuesday, June second,

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at four pm Eastern time, one pm Pacific time. So

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we're gonna have Bruce on here and we hope you

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guys can make it. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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I'm looking forward to talking to him. He was a

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great character and so yeah, if you can make it,

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that would be great. And at our usual time, we're

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gonna have Alex steel On, who played the synth F

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eight as well as all the other synth units seen

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in Star Trek p Cards first season episode Maps and

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Legends and Harvey and the three thirty five synth units

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in the second season of Star Trek p Card. He'll

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be with us on June twelfth, same BAT time, the

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same BAT channel. So that's what we got going on.

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You guys can help support treuk Talking by becoming a

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patron on our Patreon page, which is being run by Charles,

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and you can head over to Truck Talking dot Com

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right where you gotta go. And while you're there, you

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can check out all of our previous shows. All right,

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what else is going on? Blah blah blah blah blah

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blah blah blah blah. Yeah. On tonight's show, we have

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comics Corner. We're gonna be talking about Lower Decks Issues

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four and five. Hopefully you guys are big Lower Decks fans,

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and hopefully we have some Star Trek polls tonight. Until

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he drops an F bomb on Star Trek and Burner

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releases It's Harder Grade, we're going to talk about those. Hopefully,

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what Star Trek act did you share a birthday with?

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Find out in our Star Trek birthdays and what's going

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on around the Star Trek universe. Patrick Stewart returns to

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the Bridge or does he? Live action update from Tawnie

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Newsome and Space camp wit Michelle Nichols, and we also

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have our Star Trek birthday so you right there can

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find out who you share a birthday with, and without

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any further ados, we're going to dive right into our

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fan shout outs. We're already running behind, so let's dive

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right in.

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Eric, take it away, all right, I'm gonna spin this

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globe over to our friends just across the pond in

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the UK and say welcome and thank you very much

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for listening to the podcast. To Carol Young, who sends

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us that lovely Union Jack as well as that livelong

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and prosper emoji, which I'm positive is what God Jim's attention.

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Thank you Carol for reporting our podcast. We really appreciate it.

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Also saying hello this week to David vib I'm guessing

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that that's some sort of acronym. You are saying hello

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from Belgium and you're sending us that Belgian flag, So

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thank you very much for listening to our podcast, and

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kapla to you, sir. Also saying hello this week to

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Vanessa Madson, who is listening from New Zealand, way on

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almost the other side of the planet. Thank you, Vanessa

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for supporting our podcast and for being a friend of

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the show. And last but not least, on my list,

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I would like to say hello this week to Eric Streparo,

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who's saying hello to us from Italy, and Eric, you

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spell your name the correct way, sir.

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Thank you.

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Charles who would you like to say hello to.

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I don't think Charles is not here.

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I will keep going. Charles would also like to say

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that he's welcoming and saying hello to top fan Mary Stephen,

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who is saying hello to us from the great state

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of Pennsylvania, one of them big ones out east and

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top fan status, of course, means that Mary interacts with

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us a ton on our Facebook page, and we always

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appreciate people who engage like stuff, give us thumbs ups,

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all that good stuff. It makes us feel like people care.

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So thank you. Mary. Also saying hello this week to

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Debbie Elmore Creek, who's saying hello to us from the

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great state of Arkansas. We don't get a lot of

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hellos from Arkansas, so Debbie, consider yourself one among a few.

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But we really do appreciate your support and livelong and

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prosper to you saying hello this week as well to

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Elmer Clote who's saying livelong and prosper from Portage, Wisconsin.

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Hello Wisconsin, and hello Elmer, thank you so much for

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saying hello to us. And last but not least, on

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Charles's list, we're saying hey to Doug Bates. Doug Bates

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is saying hello to us from northeast Texas. Thanks Doug, David,

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take it away, sir.

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I hope the Grimlins haven't gotten to Mary, because I

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am gonna say hello. And thanks for listening to Todd

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Allen from Mississippi. And next time to life, this is

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Dan Cio from Chicago. It's a explanation mark at the end,

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got really excited there. I guess I don't know, but anyway, Yeah,

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so thanks for listening. And next time my list is

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Matt Wall from Washington State. And last summer list is

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Laura Whaling William from Florida, USA. Paul, who's on your list?

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Well, thank you, David, And you know, it's really good

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to be able to once in a while be reminded

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that there are folks who share our love of Star

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Trek all over the planet.

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It's not just this American phenomenon by any means. People

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are listening to it in many languages all across the globe,

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and pretty much always have been. So in these kind

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of chaotic times that we find ourselves in, it's really

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comforting to me to see that there's folks all across

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the planet that we have a lot more in common

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with than you might think like top van Gloria Guidance

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from Dijon, France. No less Gloria Guidance. Now with that name,

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you would think that she was perhaps ship's councilor on

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the USS excaliburate perhaps, but it seems like that's somebody

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you go to for assistance and perspective at Gloria Guidance,

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but all the way from Dijon. So fantastic to hear

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from you, Gloria. Thanks for being a fan and for

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listening to our show. Also top fan status over there

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in Dublin, Ireland. Flag unfurled proudly is Rachel Carr's another

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top fan. Great to hear from you, Rachel, and I

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want now weird question to ask if we're watching next

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Gen in Ireland. Is it just the same audio or

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does everyone have Irish access? Question for the ages. I

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think Eric and I may have to debate this at

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some point, so that could be a forty five minutes

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right there, and I'm not sure, but let's head to

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the south of the Equator and head over to Brazil

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to Canaos, to Luis Fernando Lopez in Canoas, Brazil and

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in Caracas Venezuela. We have our good friend Milagros Salazars,

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of course, meaning miraculous, which is a wonderful thing to

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be called so and it's miraculous. I think that we

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all come together here once a week to be reminded

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about what a hopeful and very entertaining universe we all

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get to share together thanks to our enthusiasm for star trek.

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Let's see who Uncle Jim is going to dig up

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from the battles of New Jersey or parts nearby. Jim,

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who do you have, sir?

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Well, first we want to swing out to Colonial Williamsburg,

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Virginia and welcome v to the podcast. Welcome. I threw

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for to Livelong and prosper pinting to the top, tell

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us where you're from, leave lots of emojis. It gets

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my attention. And for those of you watching this video,

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Just send us your pictures and David will get them

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right up there on our fan shout out. All right, guys,

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you're ready to do some polls. This is going to

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be interesting, right, here. Okay, let's first play our polling song.

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Linn poland you know me like no win what you

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thought about the show when we try to share your

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opinions with all of our minions out there because.

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They listen world, Why so tell us just what you think.

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Get together, we will alter Canara and romulin a.

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Okay, this is a loop.

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This is I think we're all gonna need some canar

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This is absolutely going on here tonight, my lord. Okay.

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So normally I would say to David, hit the video,

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but we're not gonna do that tonight. There's no videos,

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although David did work hard.

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Oh no, we're gonna do it. We're gonna know, Jim,

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We're gonna do videos, but Paul and I are gonna

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do bad lip readings to the videos. It's gonna be great.

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Oh okay, then I'll make sure you buddy, all.

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Right, David, well hit.

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You go first. You take the first character.

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Ready, it's the third video happens.

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I have been struck this chair for at least a week,

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and I'm really confused about this giant blob of protoplast.

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What are we gonna do with that?

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About being in this cage I'm not sure what to

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do with my captain. I mean not you're not captain yet,

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but you will be one day.

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Aliens don't have feelings. This is ridiculous. Why are we

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even wasting time here? We could be in this ship

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has a bar. What are we even doing down here?

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I'm just going to stand here and blink my eyes

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and pretend like I'm actually listening to her right now.

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I don't understand a word she's saying, but it seems like.

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Holding this canister of romulin ale right here in front

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of you, and I'm looking at you with love of

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my eyes and we're still talking about the rights of

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this being. It makes no sense to me. Oh, I

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can't even look at it. I can't even look at it.

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Well, captain, I mean, I'm sorry, you're still not captain yet,

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but you will be one day. No, don't do that.

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Don't sprinkle. Oh my god, I can't believe you're sprinkling.

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I'm sprinkling some for my friends who've gone ahead. And

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you know who cares that? This click on is just

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off the board bow. That's it. I'm out here. Yeah,

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you're out of here. No, I'm out of here. I'm

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this thing. This is the same device that they used

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to get low cuts back in, wasn't it. Look that's

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this is old equipment.

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Or baby, we love you? Yes, into space even afford

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a photon torpedo case for this little guy.

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Yeah, I know, no torpedo two for you, ling, And

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I am for the Tartar grade lightning arounds.

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I'm not here.

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I'm going to go show up in Pacific rim tree.

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See you that there we go?

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All right? That was our video that was from Discovery

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actually season one.

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That doing the video from my speakers and talk, I'm like,

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that guy's so confused.

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All right. So Eric, now that we saw the video,

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that was the question.

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Well, that of course was a video from the Star

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Trek Discovery episode Choose Your Pain. And in that episode, Burnham,

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realizing that these spoor jumps are killing the Tartar Grade,

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chooses to release it. That strands the ship in Klingon

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territory and it leaves it vulnerable to attack. Do you

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agree with her actions? And I am proud to say

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that ninety five percent of our poll responders said yes,

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they agree with Burnham's decision. What concerns me is that

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five percent of our responders said no, they don't agree,

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and so who are those people?

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Yeah, that throws up sometimes with some questions.

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Those are the Trump people right there?

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I don't even really know, but it seems pretty logical, right,

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like that was a good decision because you know, genocide

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and killing things senselessly is bad.

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Right, That's that's agreed.

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Yes, definitely, that's what you jump in and take the

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we're gonna we're gonna throw your right to the walls.

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Sure, go first, all right, go first with what? Sorry?

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What if? Did you think Burnham did the right thing

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the wrong thing? Are you with dominions against dominions?

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Well, I have I hate hod Ment. I have not

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seen that episode, but it's one of those to me,

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it seems like it's one of the needs of the many?

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Is that?

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Am I right on that?

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It's more like a a single creature is It's kind

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of like the episode of Voyager called Equinox where they're like, oh, yeah,

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like one of these situations where the creature is being

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harmed to make it better for other people.

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Yeah, which that's a that's yeah, that's that's terrible. But

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I mean they you know, she did what she thought

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was best for the for the creature.

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So, mh cool, All right, Paul, you want to go next? Yeah,

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I would agree. I think it's this is one of those,

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you know, more altruistic points of view what the Federation

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should be embodying. Right, It's just like, Okay, our own

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inconvenience is secondary to the you know, what you would

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call the civil rights of another you know entity, you know,

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basically another another being right that its rights matter, and

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that we don't have the right to go in and

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just selfishly, you know, colonialize our way through the galaxy

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at the expense of other life forms. Right, So it's

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kind of like it's a kind of a that you know,

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when it said it's best the Star Trek would always

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kind of remind us of so to me right in

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there with the same perspective from shows like Equinox that

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Eric was saying, or even going back to like Devil

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in the Dark, right that like, just because we don't

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understand something doesn't give it the right to malign or

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abuse it. So yeah, I would definitely say that. Yeah,

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I'm I'm with the majority on this, and the other

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five well, you know, sorry, Marjorie Taylor Green, who were you?

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I don't even know. I don't even know you've got

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in here.

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He's under couch.

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Sorry, I love it.

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Well, you know, I'm with you, Paul. I was actually

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very disappointed that Sir rou was upset that burn What

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Burnam was doing, I think of all people should have

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was he really, I don't remember that?

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Well, this is one. This is one of those centers

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that were like somebody's thinking about the good of the ship, right,

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and that's like he's thinking, I'm taking care of the crew,

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and by launching this thing out into space, we can't

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take care of the crew because now the Cleons are

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going to comeat us.

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Right.

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Yeah, that's when Stammett stepped in and jammed his veins

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with the things there and he controlled but at the point,

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at that point in time, they didn't know that. So

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Saru was like, no, you need to keep that thing alive,

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and Burnham said up yours and let him go. So yeah,

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I went the minions on this one for sure.

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So they never got to hang out and Locke antlers

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with the Klingons in this episode, then no, no.

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Because they have this opportunity and the vain action going

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on and they were out of there. So all right, God,

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what do you think, David, are you with the minions

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or against dominions? We lost?

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D he is, I don't say.

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Remember what the federation charter said, put good of all life, right,

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So yeah, I'm with the minions on this. I think

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they were a good idea to let go of life

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and just let him live. Although I didn't have one question.

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Did they know that it was alive when they launched

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that uh total grade? Or did they think it was dead?

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They knew it was alive. That's why she dumped all

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the spores on it, because it eats the spores. Okay,

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go in the space.

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And she wasn't seasoning it for lunch.

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That looked pretty good, though, one.

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Can Charles hear us? Is Charles on? Now? I see

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his pictures? Is on?

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I see his picture?

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Can you hear us? Charles? Charles?

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Charles Charles Charles.

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Twice?

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If you're okay, Charles, David, he can't hear us?

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Okay, that's fine. Let's play the next video. I get

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the show on the road.

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Okay, lot the buttons? Oh my god, guys, ready.

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For number two? Here we go. So as you could

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see right here, we're looking at a bunch of pictures

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of different tartar grades. And if I pointed this one

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and then I point at that one, you will see

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that clearly. I know exactly what I am.

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It's just unbelievable. And oh, sorry, were you listening say

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that out loud?

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I'm sorry, Yeah, you did say it out loud and

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we all heard it, and I'm really disappointed to you.

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Well, you know, it's trying to take you seriously. And

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that was so cool.

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That was perfect. That's perfect, all right. That clip, of course,

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was also from the Star Trek Discovery first season episode

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Choose Your Pain, but in this one we hear the

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first ever use of the F word in the franchise,

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and it's used by ensign Sylvia Tilley played by Mary Wiseman.

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Did the use of profanity offend you?

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And I'm happy meaning fuck?

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Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, thank you, Paul. I like how

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you always make sure you clarify things.

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That's really I like all at the table.

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Absolutely, we want to make sure everybody's on the same

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page here. So thirteen percent of our responders said that

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that F bomb offended them, but a solid eighty seven

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percent of our responders said, no, that was that was

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that was appropriate. Man, that was a situation. And also,

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actually they didn't say this. I'm not putting words in

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their mouth. Sylvia Tilly is obviously coded as probably autistic

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or probably having at least some kind of thing that

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makes her special and actually gives her like superpowers brain wise,

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and it wouldn't be surprising to me if that was

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one of the reasons that they chose to make her

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the character that iterated that word for the first time.

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So I personally am in the no category two. It

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didn't didn't really offend me. And since we've heard actually

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Jean Loup Picard say it too.

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Oh what he says it in card?

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It says it in a card.

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Yeah, all right, I gotta watch that.

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We well, actually it was Admiral what's her face that

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said it to one.

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Oh, that's right, I'm sorry. It was Admiral what's her face?

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Who she her? Hubris?

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Yes?

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Oh yeah, okay, Admiral what's her face? Famous in the

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Canons of I remember then later in the.

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One way or another said it's there all that. Were

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you totally offended and just shut it off and watch it?

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Do we have to really ask if there was yeah,

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if there was like a.

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00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:36.519
If there was a dashboard that showed like which tre

472
00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:39.920
experts were most likely to use profanity on a regular basis.

473
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:42.759
I mean we would be like, wait, I was just like,

474
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:46.240
you know, there's only a couple of words I haven't used. Really,

475
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:50.039
I mean it's just for sake of course, of course.

476
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:54.119
I mean it's ridiculous, you know. I would love to

477
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:56.759
find out though, like the pole recipient's like, if there

478
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:58.880
was a way to like, you know, parse the data

479
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.720
by like the fifteen percent, Like what's their age demographic? Right,

480
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.880
I'm guessing the probably the mostly and I mean I'm

481
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.960
being very you know generalizing here is probably the oldest

482
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.160
person on the show, which is I wrong, But I'm

483
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.200
guessing the younger folks just another problem, right, And that's

484
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.599
the old folks who are like you know, uh.

485
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:18.359
You know really really.

486
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:24.200
The series, right, I mean like really, no one wouldn't

487
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:28.240
related and start writ kind of me. Never would use

488
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:33.279
it for salty language like that. I would be never

489
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:34.279
do it, No.

490
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:36.680
Prune use.

491
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:41.720
Hey, that's a warrior's drink, war.

492
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:43.519
The sun.

493
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.640
That's perfect, that's perfect. But yeah, I mean, what the hell?

494
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:53.240
And it's words, right, It's words. It's just you know

495
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.680
that it was the way she said it and the

496
00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.960
way Stamit's reacted to it. That makes that scene at work,

497
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.599
which we didn't get see in the video, but it was.

498
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:06.680
And that I just I missed the old Stamates. He

499
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.519
was so uptight at first, right, and it was just

500
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.920
he was just so funny, and he was just really

501
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:13.559
really really updight, and he just sort of mellowed out

502
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:15.640
a little bit. But I kind of it's fun to

503
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:17.839
you see in his face in that clip, it's like,

504
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.240
that's the old Stamates. It was just like completely like

505
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:26.000
you know, woo, yeah, fun to look at, fun to

506
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.119
look at. So yeah, I don't know problem with language.

507
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:28.720
I'm not threatened.

508
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.880
But no, it didn't bother me either. Of fact, we

509
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.680
discussed it on the podcast. I thought it was done perfectly.

510
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:36.759
What about you v No, it.

511
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.680
Didn't bother me at all because I told you earlier

512
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.000
about how why I love lower decks even though I

513
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:50.279
want the words unbleeped. That's especially doctor Tanna says. But no,

514
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:53.519
if it's if it is, you know, like you said,

515
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.920
the way it was delivered and the reaction on the

516
00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.960
other person's face, then yeah, I think it's maybe the

517
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.559
people that remind me of my parents that don't like

518
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.519
the swearing, because that's that's not a good thing to do.

519
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:14.519
Oh yeah, I agree, how about you, David? Can you

520
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:14.920
hear us?

521
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:19.200
Oh yeah, I can hear you can hear me? Yes, okay, yeah.

522
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.759
I grew up completely separate from everybody. I was taught

523
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.240
to be offended by this, but overall, as I were

524
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:31.640
growing up watching movies listening to other people say it,

525
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.039
you know, in a way, I do like it when

526
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.079
it bleeps out. I find it more funny. But you

527
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.720
know that's a meame. But I mean, I'm not offended now.

528
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.799
I probably would have been back in the day, but no,

529
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.599
I grew up. I guess I'm a big boy now.

530
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.000
My beard fell off somehow, but you know I'm going

531
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.920
to get back all right.

532
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.400
Well, I guess that's it. And that's the name of

533
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.839
our polls. Guys can go to our truck talking and

534
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:04.839
beyond page I'm always putting polls up there. Make your

535
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.519
opinion her, tune into the next show and see if

536
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.880
people agreed with you. All Right, David, this we can

537
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.400
do slides for it because there's no sound along with it,

538
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:18.000
so we're gonna do lower Decks. Maybe let's see, we're

539
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:19.039
gonna do Lower Decks.

540
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:19.599
There it is.

541
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:22.200
We're gonna do issue four and we're gonna have Paul

542
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:24.480
catch us up on what's going on.

543
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.160
Okay, friends, So we're doing issue for of the Lower

544
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:32.480
Decks comics series from id W. We always like to

545
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.839
give credit where credit was due. This one's written by

546
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:38.319
Ryan North, by Jack Lawrence and the good folks there

547
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:42.200
at id W who've been keeping track alive pretty seriously

548
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:48.240
with their comic releases. There's some crazy, staticky loud noises.

549
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:53.319
Did anyone else hear that's? Wait?

550
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:53.839
I heard it?

551
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.400
Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I'm going to soldier on

552
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:01.799
as we go, so to speak. So anyhow, issue brief recap.

553
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.839
The Soritos is continuing on in this story from what

554
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.160
we had in the previous issue three. It's caught in

555
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.720
some kind of expanding bubble universe, if you will, and

556
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.960
there is a I would just say that if you're

557
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.400
a fan of technobabble, this issue is for you, okay,

558
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.480
because it is just exploding with technobabble in every frame

559
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:27.039
of every page. They basically say that by pinching off

560
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.839
a normal bubble of reality by generating a non propulsive

561
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.119
warp field, and they're trapped in a new form of

562
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.200
expanding space time, expanding away from the ship at the

563
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.119
speed of light. And they can't move any faster than

564
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.720
impulse engines. And I really need some of that Romulan

565
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.559
blood one. So they send out a probe, right, and

566
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.880
then suddenly Rutherford and Tendee are possessed by these non

567
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:53.880
corporeal energy aliens, right, and they interpreted the probe as

568
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:58.640
a weapon, and the detonation of warp cores is acts

569
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:03.559
of hostility. They're very defensive of the critos.

570
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:03.799
Right.

571
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:09.559
They didn't know that their universe's expansion was destroying our universe, right,

572
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:12.039
I didn't realize that when I was mowing my lawn,

573
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.079
I was killing all of your tools. So, and the

574
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.720
one funny bit of sticking here is the aliens keep

575
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.920
referring to everybody as babes. Right, hey, babes, like that's

576
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:22.319
their name.

577
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:22.559
You know.

578
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.319
Sorry, it didn't mean to blow up your ship, babes,

579
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.759
you know, which is kind of fun. Right, And so

580
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:31.759
as a gesture of goodwill, the aliens moved Rutherford in

581
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:35.759
Tendee's minds into the main computer, which they seem to

582
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:40.279
really enjoy. The Aliens feel very threatened by Captain Freeman's

583
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.559
earlier comments about the fleet arriving and popping their expanding

584
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:46.680
universe in order to save the Federation. So a lot

585
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.960
of mistrust there, and so the Aliens feel compelled to

586
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:54.680
make their universe expand even faster in order to survive

587
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:58.319
over there. Back in the main computer computer Rutherford and

588
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:02.119
Tendee try to convince the Aliens to stabilize their universe

589
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.119
and stop its expansions so both universes could peacefully coexist.

590
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.640
And at this point, there's a pretty funny joke about

591
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:12.559
Star Trek Generations about how Captain Kirk died and they're saying,

592
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.039
one of our most celebrated captains famously didn't even believe

593
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.440
in the no in scenario. His name was Kirk, and

594
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:20.920
he died from falling off a random bridge, but up

595
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.519
until that point he had an amazing street So it's

596
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.640
just like again, just the uh, the ignom of that

597
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.279
decision there, Writers of Generations. Then the Aliens take over

598
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.039
all of the arrest of the entire group, and Computer

599
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:41.480
Rutherford and Computer Tende try various different anesthazine gases to

600
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.599
try to knock everybody out so they could be gain control,

601
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.559
but all of the safety subroutines won't allow them to work,

602
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:55.279
so instead they turn into Rutherford and tend shaped force fields,

603
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.160
if you will, right, each holding a bunch of items together,

604
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.599
like a crazy collage of things you would scrape off

605
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:04.000
the top of your desk. Very weird and surreal looking

606
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.839
and goofy, and it's kind of amusing. But the Aliens

607
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:12.440
disable those force fields that were holding everything together, so

608
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.799
you can see this is a real straight reactive plot

609
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.839
going on here. BROTHERHD and Teddy realized that using the

610
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.039
warp engines to speed up the expansion of their universe

611
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.359
is funneling all that energy into empty space, which could

612
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.359
push the aliens universe up to its old vacuum threshold

613
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:32.960
our universe, which would collapse their universe. So much techno

614
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.960
babble in this issue it was just driving me crazy,

615
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.559
I have to say. Then the universe appears to collapse

616
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.759
and the Aliens disinhabit the crew and seemingly they're vanquished

617
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.960
and they're gone and they're dead, and then there's a

618
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.559
wrap up scene in the mess hall bemoaning the inescapable

619
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.640
randomness of death, which seems like it's something that albre

620
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.319
Camu might have written. And then Tendy takes the gang

621
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:57.480
to the Hola Deck for an escape to a beach

622
00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:59.440
on a Ryan that she always used to go to

623
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.960
when she was sad not all of us get to

624
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:07.680
see tomorrow? Or is an Oriyan fatalist saying that Tendy

625
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.480
tries to put a hopeful spin on So, uh, we're

626
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.039
going to talk about this one before we do the

627
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:20.199
summary for the next one, right, Yes, we want to

628
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:25.960
tell one of the great perfect silence equals concerned. So

629
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.360
for me, this issue for was not my favorite. I

630
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.360
generally enjoy these, uh these connects a fair amount, right,

631
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:36.880
enjoying Lower Decks, but this one just didn't really have

632
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.719
a really good story. And this is like, you know,

633
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.079
lurching out of the previous issues with this whole Pocket

634
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.320
universe thing, and I just don't think it was very clever. Frankly,

635
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.719
It's just like, especially if something's trying to be funny,

636
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.039
if Lower Decks is like could be clever, and this

637
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.400
just seemed like it was just regurgitating a whole lot

638
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.000
of techno babble and there's no real surprises. It didn't

639
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.159
end well, you know, there was really know, a clever

640
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.320
solution to things. It's it's like, okay, so we're gonna

641
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.599
kill the aliens to save ourselves and then go the

642
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.880
hol of deck and say crazy shit, and it's like,

643
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:11.639
oh okay. Yeah. So to me it was, you know,

644
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.000
and it had the misfortune of me reading it right

645
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.480
prior to reading the next issue, which we'll talk about

646
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.559
in a bit, which I enjoyed much much more so.

647
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.280
And this one just really paled in comparison for me.

648
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.280
If I was giving it a letter grade, I'd probably

649
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.360
be generous and give it a five. But not great stough,

650
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.559
certainly not good writing, very forgettable for me.

651
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:37.679
Oh all right, well Paul gives it a five. How

652
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:38.960
about you, David? What did you think?

653
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.719
Yeah? I am in Yeah, I agree with all this.

654
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.440
This particular issue was not my favorite. I mean, I

655
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:53.480
honestly thought they were going to be continuing from the

656
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:57.079
last comic book, which I know they kind of did

657
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.000
because they went through that black hole of some sort.

658
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:04.079
But this year were alternate Universe, be honest, and I

659
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.599
don't know, it just didn't pique my interest. I was

660
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.519
just kind of falling asleep almost and I had to

661
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.320
read back on some of the words because you know,

662
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.159
I'm not much of a comic reader myself, and I

663
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:21.119
accidentally reading somebody else's line before the other, so you know,

664
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.920
it's kind of up and down for me. But uh yeah,

665
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:27.039
I don't know. Just this episode of episode of the

666
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:33.639
comic book, this didn't really it didn't connect with me.

667
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.800
So to me, I'm I'm literally gonna give this a three.

668
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:44.639
Okay, a five and a three? Uh, Eric, what do

669
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:46.480
you think you're gonna You're gonna pull us out of

670
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.840
the out of the gutter here or what? No pressure,

671
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:52.760
No pressure at all.

672
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.159
I'm gonna pull us up a little bit. I will

673
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.559
say that I can't disagree that this wasn't my favorite issue.

674
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.639
I think the like three issues of this, we're really

675
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:06.000
killing it. And I say this every time we review

676
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.079
a Lower Dex comic that I love Ryan North as

677
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.320
a as a writer. I think he's really clever, and

678
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.679
I love the little subtitles down at the bottom or

679
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:14.920
the footnotes down at the bottom, and they always offer

680
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.679
a little bit of a side, almost non related but

681
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.960
sometimes related stuff that is clever and funny. There's some

682
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.519
wording in here, like them when they become their little

683
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.800
avatar sells talking about meatthands and just like fun little

684
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.280
stuff like that. But generally speaking, there's not like a

685
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:34.079
big story being told, and this is kind of the

686
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.920
end of our first arc. I think. I think this

687
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.559
one actually says end on the very last page, so

688
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:41.880
it's kind of like this story happens and then the

689
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.960
next story sort of begins. So generally speaking, I mean,

690
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.719
I'm still loving the idea of having a lower dex

691
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.199
comic because I really do miss the show and I

692
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:55.679
enjoy the fact that we at least get to continue

693
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:00.039
on adventures with these with these guys. Right now, this

694
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.760
wasn't the best one that we've seen. I think, I

695
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.320
think it's better than a three or five. I'd probably

696
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:08.440
give it like a like a six point five, but

697
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:10.920
but it's not one that I'm going to go back

698
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.039
and kind of like read over and over again. Personally,

699
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.679
I'm kind of in the same book as Paul, where

700
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.039
I think the next one is really particularly good. But yeah,

701
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.159
that's my take on it, all right.

702
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:28.360
Vre okay, honest, all right, no pressure, all right, So

703
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.199
I'm gonna have to turn on the light so I

704
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.159
can read my notes it's getting dark in my little

705
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:39.519
so all right, so this was actually my very first

706
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.159
venture into the comic. So I just love the whole setup.

707
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.239
Like on the first page you got that l cars

708
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.000
display and Badgie is insulting you know, us, calling us

709
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:57.280
miserable humans. The comments at the bottom, that's just that's hilarious.

710
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:03.800
And I think what jumped out at me was billips

711
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:07.440
to Bridge were not dead and said we noticed billups

712
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:13.440
much obliged as always. Uh so that and all the noises,

713
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.719
the zach and the crack and then he says at

714
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.639
the bottom, pencil in your own noises, the you know,

715
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:26.559
the the hip noises. Let's see what else were talking

716
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:35.639
about earlier, the warf corn the like they did. I think, well,

717
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.679
it was really interesting. Well I love that they call

718
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.880
them babes because that's to me, that's an improvement from

719
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:45.000
what was it the next gen when uh those I'm

720
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.920
trying to remember which episode where we call you know,

721
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:50.880
mostly bag or bags of ugly bags of mostly water. So,

722
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:57.159
you know, for that, babes is definitely an improvement. I

723
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.559
know that Rutherford seemed like he really enjoyed being in

724
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:05.119
the computer. That's, you know, because he's like half cybernetic.

725
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.800
So but then later on he learns that it's not

726
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:12.880
as great as he thought it was. Of course, I

727
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.760
just I had to laugh out loud at the Kirk

728
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.880
with his no wind scenario, you know, died falling off

729
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.519
a random bridge up till then he had an amazing

730
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:26.400
streak going on. I don't know why, because I hated.

731
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:30.280
I hated that ending in generations I did. That was

732
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:33.920
not the ending that Kirk deserved. So I'll just say that,

733
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:41.599
let's see what else. So they're trying to uh put

734
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:48.159
everybody to sleep. That doesn't work the safety protocols. But

735
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.440
the thing that really got me because this has happened before,

736
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:56.920
and it was in a DS nine episode where they

737
00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.840
were too eager not to trust one another. They didn't

738
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.320
want to ensure that they could work together and that

739
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:12.519
they would all survive. So that's that distrust in one another.

740
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.960
And at the very end, I think it was sweet

741
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.519
because I love Tendy that she was trying to help

742
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:24.800
everybody feel better by taking them to her holiday program

743
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.280
and say, not all of us get to see tomorrow,

744
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.760
but all of us did get to see today.

745
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:34.159
That was really good.

746
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.239
Nice, So I would give it since it's my first one,

747
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:42.599
I will give it a I'll do a six point five.

748
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:43.119
How about that?

749
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:48.920
All right? Excellent? Well, you guys pretty much touched on everything.

750
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.400
I still like the little blurby things at the bottom

751
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.559
of the page. I enjoy reading those. I did like

752
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:57.960
the Badgie introduction on the first page and the Kirk

753
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:03.079
falling off a random bridge. Just so, yeah, I'm gonna

754
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:05.159
I'm gonna go with you, guys. I'm gonna go with

755
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.360
just because I know Paul loves his decimals, So I

756
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.239
can't go with a six point five because everybody else did.

757
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:14.360
So I'm gonna go with a six point four or

758
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.559
five just to be different, because that's.

759
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.480
The way I am bringing it into the hundreds, bringing

760
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:20.039
it into.

761
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.239
The hundreds, just just for Paul, because oh you're different,

762
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:27.559
all right, different? All right. So that wraps up our

763
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:31.400
review of Lower Decks issue number four, and now we're

764
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:35.480
going to roll into issue number five. The mic is yours, Paul.

765
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.519
Thank you so much. Issue five a delightful return to

766
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.400
form for the comics here, also written by Ryan North

767
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.800
and by Jack Lawrence. Again, this one is just so

768
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:52.800
much more inventive and clever and fun and in the

769
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:56.760
best spirit of having good connectivity with other pieces of

770
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.079
star Trek, which is, you know what lower Decks when

771
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:03.239
it's doing really well, does beautifully. So first of all,

772
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:06.039
the Critos is docked in an orbital array getting a

773
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.880
Baryon sweep, and you have to go all the way

774
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.320
back to Next Generation season six, episode eighteen, an episode

775
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:17.480
called Starship Mine that was basically like the diehard of

776
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.519
Next Generation, if you will, of Captain Picard trying to

777
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.519
prevent the ship from being stolen while he's wearing a

778
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.599
leaveless shirt to look muscular. Right, So Barryon sweep right,

779
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:33.800
eliminating these particles that accumulate as a side effective war

780
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.480
of travel. That is your educational moment for this episode.

781
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:37.159
So there you are.

782
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.159
Anyhow, so they're all given shortlyave on this planet while

783
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.800
the Burions weave is happening. But Marin is very suspicious

784
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.639
of the signs pointing to a senior staff only reception

785
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:49.639
and she's like, something's going on there, and so she

786
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.159
sneaks into it and she hides underneath a banquet table

787
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.760
to eavesdrop, and she finds out that this reception is

788
00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:03.679
actually a briefing from the depart Apartment of Temporal Investigations right,

789
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:09.159
being led by two agents, Dulmer and Luxley, which is

790
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.480
the most flagrant X files anagram I've ever recountered, But

791
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:15.719
there you go. I got a nice little tip of

792
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.159
that there and definitely done.

793
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:17.719
So.

794
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.599
The Temporal Investigations team is detected that our shared history

795
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.000
is changing across the Federation, and I'm not really sure

796
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.400
what that means yet, but they're very concerned about it,

797
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.320
and so rather than send some big high profileship to investigate,

798
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:35.840
and they chose the Sorito's crew because no one would

799
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:40.639
ever suspect or miss lowly California class starship. Yet even

800
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.360
after that explanation, curiously they don't take the Soritos. They

801
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.920
assigned the bridge officers and reassign them to some old

802
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.480
Food class ship, the USS Nemo, to take it back

803
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.599
in time. And in this issue we do not see

804
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.440
that ship yet, so we don't really have a really

805
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.800
clear picture of what that looks like. I'm sure Charles

806
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:01.239
is frantically googling Freedom class ships right now as we

807
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:03.559
speak to get a clear picture there. But they're going

808
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.800
to go back in time, right. Meanwhile, the lower deckers

809
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:12.679
are watching the most awesome Jim centric puppet show that

810
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.960
ever was created, a love letter to Star Trek five

811
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:22.679
with puppets featuring the magical line Shaka Revent. And I

812
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.800
just know that Jim was loving every moment of this.

813
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:27.480
So I never thought I'd say that there was a

814
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:29.920
Star Trek five puppet show, but we have seen it, Jim.

815
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:33.159
I can't wait to hear your thoughts. Mariner bursts in

816
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:36.519
in well, the lower deckers are enjoying this magical entertainment.

817
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:38.400
She says, we need to get back to the soritos,

818
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.079
at least the part of it's clear the Baryon suite

819
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.280
and fills everyone in on what she's heard. Right, So

820
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:48.039
Tendy whips out these anti tachy On field emitters to

821
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.800
protect everyone from many changes to the timeline. And I

822
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:53.960
love Ruth offrd's line. He's like, once it done, an

823
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:57.519
emotional problem is solved by a neat gadget it very

824
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.639
very RUTHI bird right, just again, when the show is

825
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:05.800
commenting on all of the tropes that Startrek frequently does, do,

826
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.559
I think that's when it's and it's most entertaining. So

827
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:12.320
I thought that was great. So then these different timelines

828
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.480
start emerging that everyone has to sort of contend with,

829
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:19.400
even though they're protected by these little anti tachy on

830
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.280
field emitters, but still they have to navigate the different

831
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.480
changes when they occur. So, first of all, this timeline

832
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:30.119
emerges where first sash wearing energy whip cracking season one,

833
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.360
next Gen Frengi have commandeered the soritos, right, and it's

834
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:39.480
hilarious to see those What are that's our for? You'll

835
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:44.480
never forget your first Ferengi apparently, but it's great. And

836
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.320
so they've comminated, and then they start talking and Mariner

837
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.639
and Boemler, this is really great. They fesce up to

838
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:56.719
their whole portal misadventure on Chrolmouth B that we saw

839
00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.599
on Strange New Worlds in that episode, because that's what

840
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.119
they're referencing to, that whole Strange New World's crossover where

841
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:06.800
we had live action versions of Manner and Boriemler, which

842
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.719
is I think one of the best episodes Strange in

843
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:10.800
the World has ever done, frankly, and so it's really

844
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:12.920
cool to hear that reference here in the creative way.

845
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.519
So they decide that they will go to Krollmouth B.

846
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.039
But then the timeline changes in rapid succession to like,

847
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.880
first of all, a Romulan and Borg timeline, and so

848
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.920
the idea of romulin Borgs is pretty terrifying and pretty fun,

849
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.119
and so they decide to go there. But then the

850
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:33.719
timeline changes again and they realize that they're gonna need heronium,

851
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.079
which we remember from that Strange in World's episode, to

852
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.559
operate the portal. But it's a rare metal, nobody's really

853
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:41.760
seen it for years, so they decide to just wait

854
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:45.199
and cycle through all of these different timeline changes until

855
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:48.320
they can find a timeline where they can actually detect heronium.

856
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:52.679
So long winded, but you know, reasonable plant and so

857
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:54.960
there are a whole slew of different timeline shifts. We

858
00:47:55.079 --> 00:48:00.599
get the bella Ox mix Iotian gangsters, we get thes,

859
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.960
we get the herogion is depicted on the cover, and

860
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.760
then they finally in the midst of their journey to

861
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.719
Krolmouth B but then the timeline changes again and we

862
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.800
see a bunch of unconscious Zindy But good news, friends,

863
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:19.280
there is heronium in the Zindy's uniforms, and so they

864
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.400
are able to get all that for what they need,

865
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:23.840
and they're just about to head down to use the

866
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.599
portal when Vendreans show up for no real clear reason

867
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:29.920
other than for Marina to beat the crap out of them.

868
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:31.199
That's the one thing, is.

869
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:37.920
Just pat them up, you Venorans, for really no reason

870
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.440
I could understand, except I think they like drawn Vendorians.

871
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.840
But so they go down to the Planet Service and

872
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.639
they reach the portal and the portal now has a

873
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:47.440
new interface, so they can talk to it, and they're

874
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:49.840
not really sure. The portal asks them where should we go?

875
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.840
And they don't really know. They don't really know where

876
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.400
to go, and so they say, just send us to

877
00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:59.000
someplace where we can have the greatest effect, and so

878
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.519
that's where the portal sends them, right, and they sent

879
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:06.199
through to some other time and space, and they're on

880
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.880
the surface of some large vehicle and they're trying to

881
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.800
figure out what it is and Wemmler leans over the

882
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:15.639
edge of it to see if he can read any signage,

883
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.960
and we realized in the last frame that they are

884
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:21.880
on the deck of the Titanic, and that is how

885
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.960
the issue ends. So this was just a breath of

886
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:28.039
fresh air. It was fun, it was clever, It was

887
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.840
actually funny throughout, which I think is really great. Half

888
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.960
the fun being in terms of dialogue, and half of

889
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.960
it from great visual gags like the season one for

890
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:41.800
RENGI right, which were just ridiculous. So I thought this

891
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:43.599
was clever, and it moved a really good clip, and

892
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.599
there was really not a lot that was just annoying

893
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:48.519
about it, right, And so for me, this is a

894
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:52.280
lower decks comic when the pistons are firing and it's

895
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.719
good storytelling and you have affection for it, and I

896
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.599
thought it was done in a really interesting way. I

897
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.400
wouldn't say it's all time classic status, but I would

898
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.519
certainly give it a nine. Absolutely, But I think it

899
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:06.400
was really inventive and just exactly the kind of thing

900
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:10.320
we needed to wash the taste of issue four out amendmenton.

901
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:14.400
So Issue five a winner, friends, and it made me

902
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:18.199
look forward to reading issue six, which is what your

903
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:20.760
issue should do to propel you in there and help

904
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:24.239
increase your sales and all those So this was a treat.

905
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.320
Really enjoyed it very very much, So that's me I

906
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:28.159
would give it a nine.

907
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:31.599
A nine from Paul, Well, Victoria, we'll let you jump

908
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.159
in after Paul and follow up the nine, So the

909
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:35.079
mic is yours?

910
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:35.800
All right?

911
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:36.239
Yes?

912
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:42.119
Well, I enjoyed it very much, being only my second

913
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.840
issue that I've read, I did love. I just laughed

914
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.119
out loud at the anagrams of Maulder and Scully with

915
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.920
the time the temporal agents, because they really don't have

916
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.199
a sense of humor. And that was something that was

917
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:01.400
mentioned that they really need to have, you know, a

918
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:03.639
little more kindness because they have all the time in

919
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:07.880
the world to be kind, but they don't really have

920
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:13.320
a lot of that. I think, what let's see, Sorry,

921
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.760
I'm trying to read my notes here. When they had

922
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.400
the Borg invasion with the the Romulan Borgs, I really

923
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.360
wanted to lend to say the ship is outdated and

924
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:27.639
smells like borg but she didn't.

925
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:31.679
Uh.

926
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.400
And oh, I was going to say with it with

927
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:36.280
the Zindy when they have their uniforms that that have

928
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:40.280
that essential element, so they make it up. So is

929
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.000
the ship full of naked Zindy or what I did?

930
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:44.920
I did?

931
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.199
It didn't That's what I wanted. They say their uniforms,

932
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:49.760
they don't you know, what would.

933
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:50.920
They do with you?

934
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.760
Just you have to buy the less family friendly issue.

935
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:58.719
But that's what I was yeah.

936
00:51:59.000 --> 00:51:59.119
Oh.

937
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.920
And then then at the very end when they're on

938
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:06.760
this this old steamship and you know, they're saying, oh

939
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.840
it's this is some enormous, colossal, gargantuan and then of

940
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:16.559
course Titanic that was that was a boom moment for me.

941
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:21.440
So I'm expecting Boemler and I think it. I think

942
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:25.199
it gives a preview where he's at the front of

943
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.280
the ship saying I'm King of the world, like they

944
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:34.360
did in the movie, you know with Rose and Jack. Yeah, yep,

945
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:36.519
So I would give it. I would give it a

946
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.440
nine as well. I thought it was great.

947
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.159
I mine, Well, what do you think, Eric, we got

948
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:44.800
two nines?

949
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.280
Oh man, this was a great issue.

950
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:48.599
Uh yeah.

951
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.000
I mean I can't remember who says it, but there's

952
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:56.719
that line about second contact missions being where the juicy

953
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:59.480
stuff is and don't even get me started on third contact.

954
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:05.360
It just like really cracks me up. I love that.

955
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.079
There was the moment where they were the temporal Investigation

956
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:12.920
guys were talking about high profile Starfleet ships and they

957
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.599
said the proto star and I mean, great reference back

958
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.880
to one of our favorite shows that's no longer with us.

959
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:23.280
But I wouldn't call the Protostar high profile ships. So

960
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.880
I thought that was kind of funny too, because it's

961
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.599
always really funny when they say things that aren't necessarily true.

962
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.119
Boimler wasn't sure whether his hair is naturally purple or

963
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.440
whether he dies it, and that that if you read

964
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:39.199
the little note at the bottom of that page, it

965
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:43.199
says something about how that even deepens the mystery, so

966
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.199
just totally crack me up. Of course, we already talked

967
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:49.000
about the Farrengi and many of the other things, the

968
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.480
Star Trek five references and stuff, so I'm with you, guys, man.

969
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.519
I thought this one was hitting on all cylinders. It

970
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.639
was funny. I actually read the issue twice back to back,

971
00:53:57.840 --> 00:53:59.199
just like finished it, and I was like, that was

972
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:00.760
so good, I'm gonna go back. I could read it again.

973
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.360
I don't think the herosions really looked like herogions. I'm

974
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:06.199
not really sure if that was a color issue or

975
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.079
if it was just like the drawing wasn't quite right

976
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:12.119
of them. But that's literally my only complaint about the thing.

977
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.920
So I I give issue five a nine myself as well.

978
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:20.039
All right, well we're rolling, we're rolling, David, what do

979
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.199
you think you got nine.

980
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:26.760
This one was, in particular one of my favorites out

981
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:31.639
of all of the Lower Deck comics, and the humor

982
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.360
that they put into it, where it's just just it

983
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.800
just kept going. It was like a roller coaster ride,

984
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.400
you know, you did if you get off your fall

985
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:44.559
and what not, But it was just to me. I

986
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:48.960
like the a lot of the humor. Let's if I

987
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:53.000
can remember some of them, like the first uh shut

988
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:57.599
of time difference that they experience were from the IONI

989
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.519
and I think they were called and and then you

990
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:04.159
can see boy log in the total of going oh

991
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.400
thanks you so just a lot of different little things.

992
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:12.000
Of course I had to add the picture in here

993
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.199
for Jim, you know, she's always been talking about it.

994
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:21.079
But I was just, oh man, this whole comic was.

995
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:25.559
I actually could not wait to read number six. Unfortunately

996
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.920
I didn't have enough time, but I will eventually. And

997
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.639
if we are continuing the Lower Decks, yes, it would

998
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:36.679
be really fun to get into. So yeah, a lot

999
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:42.039
of these different pictures that they showed up and Eric

1000
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.840
you mentioned like the Herozion didn't look like them. I

1001
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:48.880
actually thought they kind of did do a pretty good job,

1002
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:53.719
but they were only in like a couple of frames

1003
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:59.159
before they disappeared, and you know whatnot but yeah, I

1004
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.400
really enjoy addition, I'm gonna actually give this a nine

1005
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:03.159
point five.

1006
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:08.000
Nine point five, So we have a nine and nine

1007
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:11.360
and nine and nine point five. Guys, you know where

1008
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:12.039
I'm going with this.

1009
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:16.400
You already know that's that would be classic Jim Well.

1010
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:20.599
I was gonna start. I was gonna start with feel like.

1011
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:26.960
Star Trek I just like Star Trek Transporters. I didn't

1012
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:27.280
like it.

1013
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.960
I was gonna start with a five different just because

1014
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.800
of Star Trek five, and bumped that right up from there.

1015
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.000
But I got to say that this this one felt

1016
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.280
the most like I was watching a Lower Decks episode.

1017
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:44.239
It was firing on all burners, all the references were great,

1018
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:48.880
Everything just flowed perfectly like it usually does on the show.

1019
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.559
And when I got to the what does God need

1020
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.440
with a starship? I lost it. That's all I needed

1021
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:58.599
right there. And so yeah, I'm going with a ten

1022
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.199
point ten on this one. End point one. Baby, I'm

1023
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:06.000
going off the chart because anybody that references Star Trek five,

1024
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:09.239
I don't need to go any more than that. So

1025
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:11.760
I'm going to go with a ten point one on

1026
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.039
this issue. I highly recommend it.

1027
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:14.440
It was.

1028
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.559
Just it was pure joy to read it, really was.

1029
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:22.159
I read it in their voices, I you know, like,

1030
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:24.679
and that's how I know that they're doing it right.

1031
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:27.800
Like the last one not so much. I was slogging

1032
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.360
through it, but this one I could hear their voices

1033
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.599
saying the lines, you know, especially the Star Trek five reference.

1034
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:41.239
So ten point one from me on that one. So guys,

1035
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:45.559
that's our lower decks. Anybody want to add anything before

1036
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:46.079
we move.

1037
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.360
On to our Star Trek word if I could. I

1038
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:53.880
think in the very beginning, wasn't there In one of

1039
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:56.599
the very beginning there was the somebody was holding a

1040
00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:59.719
dog and I swear it was the dog with the

1041
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:07.880
unhorned that is from the original series. So I noticed that, Yes, yeah.

1042
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:13.400
And then in that Puppet show it cracked me up

1043
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:17.039
when the Spock puppet was beating up the God puppet.

1044
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.920
I don't, yeah, I just wasn't expecting that. And then last,

1045
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:27.000
but not least, the whole I've heard I've seen armand

1046
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.679
Shimmerman talk several times about because he was in that

1047
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:36.079
awful TNG with those those terrible uh FRANGI and that

1048
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.880
was his goal to sort of atone for that when

1049
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:43.719
he was Quark in d S nine, because he wanted

1050
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:51.320
to make up for the horrible FRANGI yeah, it's a

1051
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:51.960
hume on.

1052
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:55.519
Thank god we never saw them again.

1053
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:00.559
I know.

1054
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:10.400
Oh yeah, yeah, you clothe your females inviting others to

1055
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:15.679
unclothe them. Yep, that was the FRINGI al right, guys,

1056
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:18.960
Well that wraps up our Lower Decks Issue four and

1057
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.960
five review for Comic Corner. And now it's time for

1058
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:25.559
our Star Trek Birthdays and let's see how this goes.

1059
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:28.599
I'm almost afraid to push the button. Hm.

1060
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:51.599
That was not a Cleon song. What what?

1061
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:51.920
What?

1062
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:54.840
Okay?

1063
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:56.280
At least we're consistent.

1064
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:59.840
It's David's gremlins if they've moved in. All right, guys,

1065
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:02.239
we do our Star Trek birthdays and you can find

1066
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:05.159
the birthdays listen about our Trek Talking and Beyond page

1067
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.239
and we always start off our Star Trek Birthdays sadly enough,

1068
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:10.519
remembering those who are no longer with us, and for

1069
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:11.840
that we turned.

1070
01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:12.840
To Eric, Yeah, Jim.

1071
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.800
This week we're going to remember four members of our

1072
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.199
Star Trek community who have gone before us. The first

1073
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:20.840
is actor Patrick Horgan. The actor from Nottingham, England, who

1074
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.519
appeared as Enegg in the original series second season episode

1075
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:28.159
Patterns of Force. He was best known for his affinity

1076
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:31.480
with words of art, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle or more

1077
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.760
specifically Sherlock Holmes, and he played the Great Detective several

1078
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:38.840
times on stage, notably in nineteen seventy five and nineteen ninety,

1079
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:41.480
as well as providing the character's voice on two audio

1080
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:45.320
recordings for The Blind. He of course did many many

1081
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:49.239
television guest roles and was maybe as well best known

1082
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.039
for his four year stint portraying doctor John Morrison on

1083
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:56.400
the soap opera The Doctors from nineteen seventy through nineteen

1084
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:59.360
seventy four. Had a few feature films along the way,

1085
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:03.719
most notable Lee Zelig from nineteen eighty three as the narrator.

1086
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.000
He also appeared in The Thomas Crown Affair from nineteen

1087
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.480
sixty eight. Happy Birthday to Patrick Horgan lost at the

1088
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:15.000
ripe old age of ninety two years old. Happy Birthday

1089
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.320
as well to Sarah Marshall, the actress who played doctor

1090
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:21.800
Janet Wallace in the original series second season episode The

1091
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:24.559
Deadly Years. She of course is the only daughter of

1092
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:27.920
the British film and theater legendary stars Herbert Marshall and

1093
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.000
Edna Best. She made a number of television guest appearances

1094
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:34.039
throughout the fifties and sixties, but never appearing in more

1095
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.039
than one or three episodes or so in each series.

1096
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.719
She became known for playing Agnes Stewart in The Long

1097
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.039
Hot Summer from nineteen fifty eight, and was nominated for

1098
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.880
Broadway's nineteen sixty Tony Award as Best Supporting or Featured

1099
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:53.880
Actress for Goodbye Charlie. After a thirteen year hiatus from

1100
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:57.840
taking a break from acting, Marshall return for one final

1101
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:01.840
film role. She played the pivot role of Missus Weston

1102
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:05.840
in twenty twelve's Bad Blood and Unfortunately We lost her

1103
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.719
to stomach cancer, a long, hard battle that she fought

1104
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:11.280
for a very long time. Lost her back in twenty

1105
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.280
fourteen at the age of eighty years old. Happy birthday

1106
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:18.679
to Sarah Marshall. Happy birthday as well to Natalie Norwick,

1107
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.760
the actress who played Martha Layton in the TOS first

1108
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:25.760
season episode The Conscience of the King. Natalie Norwick was

1109
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:29.480
born in nineteen twenty three in the Bronx and she's

1110
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:33.800
perhaps best known for playing Josette Dupree Collins on the

1111
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:38.000
television series Dark Shadows from nineteen sixty six through nineteen

1112
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:40.639
sixty seven, a real classic as far as I'm concerned.

1113
01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:44.920
She also appeared in such series as Perry Mason, seven

1114
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:48.480
episodes of Have Gun Will Travel, which of course was

1115
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.599
a written by Gene Rod Murray, Shenanigan's Thing, and Starsky

1116
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:54.880
and Hutch, which I know that Jim is a big

1117
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:57.679
fan of, and had roles in the film's twenty three

1118
01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:01.000
Paces to Baker Street from nineteen fifty six and nineteen

1119
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:05.840
fifty seven's Hidden Fear, Happy Birthday to Natalie Norwick. And

1120
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:09.400
last but not least, for our remembrances, we remember Kevin Conway,

1121
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:13.760
the actor who played Els That's Right in Star Trek

1122
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.199
The Next Generation six se is an episode Rightful Air.

1123
01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:20.639
You know, Kevin didn't decide to pursue a career in

1124
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.079
acting until he was twenty four years old. Before that,

1125
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:29.119
he worked as an IBM sales analyst. In nineteen eighty

1126
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:32.800
he also starred as doctor William Haber alongside Bruce Davidson

1127
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.039
in the made for television movie adaptation of Ursula. Kyle

1128
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:39.000
Gwin's science fiction novel The Lave of Heaven, which is

1129
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:41.800
a fantastic book if you have not read that. I

1130
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:44.199
personally think every single person should read every single one

1131
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.119
of her books, but that's just me. Conway appeared as

1132
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:51.519
himself and the Earl of Hastings in al Pacino's nineteen

1133
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:55.119
ninety six documentary Looking for Richard. He was an actor,

1134
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:58.039
but he was also a director, known for movies like

1135
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:02.679
nineteen ninety three's Gettysburg, two thousand's Thirteen Days and two

1136
01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:06.840
thousand and six Is Invincible. Not a lot of people

1137
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:10.000
know he was actually he actually himself turned down the

1138
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:13.320
role of Fiodin in the Lord of the Rings movies

1139
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:16.239
so that he could reprise the role of Buster Kilrain

1140
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.960
in Gods and Generals from two thousand and three. Of course,

1141
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:23.880
that role eventually went to Bernard Hill instead. Conway did

1142
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:26.960
have a reoccurring role as Seamus O'Reilly in the HBO

1143
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:31.360
series OZ, and also provided the control voice for the

1144
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.039
nineteen ninety five to two thousand and two revival of

1145
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.920
The Outer Limits, a role that he took from Vic Perrin.

1146
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:42.239
Kevin Conway I think one of the classic faces of

1147
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:45.599
Star Trek and I love how we've seen Kalos reappear

1148
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:48.519
in a lot of the Star Trek comics as of late,

1149
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:51.760
so we get to re see your face every once

1150
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:55.519
in a while. Kevin Conway, albeit drawn and not live.

1151
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:58.519
We lost you back in twenty twenty at the age

1152
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:02.440
of seventy seven years old. Happy birthday to Kevin Conway.

1153
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:08.440
Well, Charles is not with us, Eric, so v would

1154
01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:10.280
you like to take over for Charles or do you

1155
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:11.639
want Eric to continue? Yeah?

1156
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:12.920
No, I can, That's fine.

1157
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:14.320
Yeah so.

1158
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.320
Alex henfel Off born May twenty third, nineteen forty two

1159
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:23.440
the actor who played doctor Nichols in Star Trek for

1160
01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:30.039
the Voyage Home. Ray Burke born May twenty seventh, nineteen

1161
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:35.320
forty three. The actor who portrayed Wren in DNG first

1162
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:40.280
season episode Haven and a sona Doctor. Ooh, that was

1163
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:44.480
where they got their faces stretched. I think Star Trek Insurrection.

1164
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:52.440
Jack mcbraer born May twenty seventh, nineteen seventy three singer

1165
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:57.519
and comedian who voiced Badgie in the Lower Decks episodes

1166
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:03.199
and Nobody Can do Evil more than Let's See. He

1167
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:07.519
was in the Lower Decks episode's terminal provocations No small parts.

1168
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:13.239
A few Badgies More. He also voiced Gujie and Logic

1169
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:17.559
Key and we have Melissa Young born May twenty ninth,

1170
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:22.880
nineteen sixty seven, played Caprice in the DS nine fourth

1171
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:28.159
season episode Our Man Besher. So happy birthday to all

1172
01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:29.280
of those lovely people.

1173
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:33.400
And with that, it's time for Paul to jump in.

1174
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.199
Well done, thee Well done indeed, So we have more

1175
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:39.599
birthday still to come here. First of all, let's say

1176
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:45.159
happy birthday to Yadira Helena Guevara, actress who portrayed May

1177
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:50.320
Honey Ika Haley Capol in Short Trek's episode Runaway and

1178
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:53.880
Discovery second season episodes Such Sweet Sorrow and Such Sweet

1179
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:58.519
Sorrow Part two. Happy Birthday and Excited to be Able

1180
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:06.320
to Lose are amongst us. Dame Joan Collins, legendary English

1181
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:10.679
actress who played Edith Keeler in the original series first

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01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:15.119
season episode The City on the Edge of Forever, probably

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01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:18.679
one of the all time greatest hours of television we

1184
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.639
will ever see, and it's science fiction and it's from

1185
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:25.079
Harlan Ellison and it's just a benchmark. What a great

1186
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:28.719
piece of writing, and she is definitely embodied that role

1187
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.639
so well. Easy to believe that somebody you would be

1188
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:36.719
heartbroken over if you had to let her go in

1189
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:40.960
the manner that the Jim Kirk does so phenomenal work

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01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:44.800
and a screen luminary to be sure, and what a legend.

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01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:48.440
So John Collins still out there. Happy birthday, friend, Great

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01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.239
to see you out there, and happy birthday. Happy birthday

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01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:55.320
to Michael Benyar, actor who played Seveth in the Strange

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01:07:55.360 --> 01:08:00.400
New World second season episode Charades. Happy birth to the

1195
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:05.679
legendary Lee Merryweather Okay, actress who we acknowledge here for

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01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.519
her turn as l Sira in the original series third

1197
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:15.320
season episode That which survives no depiction ever in Hollywood

1198
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:17.000
has ever made a woman look thinner than in that

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01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:21.279
particular episode where she becomes a vertical line and just

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01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:26.960
disappears and for you to tend tomato, right, I mean,

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01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:28.800
she's just and she kind of made it.

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01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:29.199
Uh.

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01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:32.439
It was a really interesting way if she performed, because

1204
01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:34.800
she's basically like in the depiction of a machine, right,

1205
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:36.960
she's kind of like like a projection like from like

1206
01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:40.159
a kin to like Landrew. But she really made it

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01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:44.920
without doing anything really like you know, scenery chewing. She

1208
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:49.560
conveyed a very disturbing kind of maniacal, defensive presence of evil.

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01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:51.760
I thought it's a really good performance. It's really interesting.

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01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:54.520
I mean total idream of Genie costume. I mean, I

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01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:57.319
think it is the I dream of Genie costumes. It's

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01:08:57.399 --> 01:09:01.800
like crazy, but a great episode. I think underrated, you know,

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01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.159
at there's a lot of third season episodes. So Lee

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01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:07.960
Mayweather also, of course, is just a huge list of

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01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:12.319
credits in her career. But was when they made a

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01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:17.800
feature film out of the Batman anime, the sixties classic Batman,

1217
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:23.720
you know, sixty six Batman TV series, Lee Merriweather stepped

1218
01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:27.039
in and played Catwoman because of course Julie Numar and

1219
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:31.720
Earth the Kid played but a ten times the movie,

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01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.399
Lee Mayweather stepped in and a great job, so really

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01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:35.960
really famous.

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01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:39.439
Uckily, it wasn't taken down by shark repellent right right with.

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01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:43.600
Bat shark repellent so on the Penguin submarine.

1224
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:48.159
So it's it's it's really bad ideas in that movie,

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01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.560
despite the fact that the show was great, and you know,

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01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:54.439
I'm sorry they use a clip from that movie in

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01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:56.399
like thirty episodes or whatever.

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01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:58.560
But when they go running down that dock and jump

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01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:03.680
into bat boat, it's the coolest goddamn thing ever. Its

1230
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:07.000
looks so exciting. Just remember as a kid so much.

1231
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:10.800
It was just the best, really really fun. I'm glad

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01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:12.920
that those have all been restored. You can watch them.

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01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:14.720
It's super super fun.

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01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:21.800
Birthday Lean Marray Weather and finally for me, he was

1235
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.359
saying happy birthday to American actress Julie Cobb, who played

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01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:31.000
Leslie Thompson, credited as Yeoman the ill fated Leslie Thompson

1237
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:35.359
in second season episode by any Other Name. Really kind

1238
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:38.439
of a sad end to this character and pretty brutal,

1239
01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:41.680
I mean, frankly, considering how people would usually meet their end,

1240
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.600
I would say that she should have an important footnote

1241
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:47.600
in Star Trek because I think what happened to this

1242
01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.000
character is one of the most brutally.

1243
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:51.720
Just harsh.

1244
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:53.600
Deaths.

1245
01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:56.520
I think it's all of Star Trek. It's it's grim

1246
01:10:57.159 --> 01:11:01.279
and this is an extremely underrated episode. I think it's

1247
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:03.159
one of the best episodes of all Star Drag frankly,

1248
01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:06.119
because it really shows what it would probably be like

1249
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:08.079
if you were dealing with like aliens who had no

1250
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:11.680
familiarity with human emotions and would at first be terrifying,

1251
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:15.159
but then how could you use your emotions their emotions

1252
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:18.840
against them. So it's a tremendous piece of writing. If

1253
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.359
you haven't watched it in a while, I highly recommend

1254
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:25.359
by any other name. It's absolutely spectacular. So and Julie

1255
01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:30.720
Cobb wonderful presence in the opening scenes of that particular episode.

1256
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:33.479
So a lot of cool people have in May birthdays.

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01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:35.479
And I think there's still more to come. As we

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01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:40.399
spin this flaming candle over to Uncle Jim. It's always

1259
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:41.960
saves the Klingons for last.

1260
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.239
I don't have any Lingons, but I have some good

1261
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:47.000
ones on my list. But I just want to say

1262
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:51.520
that we did an outstanding job pressed it action that quick,

1263
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:55.319
right on the spot. It did an outstanding job for

1264
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:57.279
Charles so oh and.

1265
01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:00.880
I will can I say that I am I am

1266
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:05.520
a May baby as well. My birthday was on the first.

1267
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:07.840
But you know I'm.

1268
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:11.039
Got to sing and cling on.

1269
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:19.720
Yeah, yeah, don't actually sing birthday songs.

1270
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:23.720
One another, no, No, I'm just just but somebody translated

1271
01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:26.800
that that's what I love, you know, the happy birthday.

1272
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:28.880
But now this has been I have just had a

1273
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:34.920
blast technical issues and all, and I just look forward

1274
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.079
to hope you want to keep me on and you

1275
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:43.760
know I'll be happy to play along with your Shenanigans anytime.

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01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:46.000
Excellent.

1277
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.119
Well, wrapping up our birthdays, I only have three one, two, three,

1278
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:54.319
but there's some pretty good ones here. First, uh, sticking

1279
01:12:54.399 --> 01:12:58.680
with our how many spots have there been, Eric, there's

1280
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:01.079
been a lot of spots. We want to say Happy

1281
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:04.640
birthday and live long and prosper to Jacob Coogan, who

1282
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:09.159
played Young Spock in two thousand and nine JJ Abrams

1283
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:13.800
Star Trek. He's an American actor of Russian Jewish ancestry,

1284
01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:16.760
and there he is on the screen. Happy birthday to Jacob.

1285
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:21.199
Funny story about Jacob. He wasn't invited to the premiere

1286
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:24.640
of Star Trek two thousand and nine. He hitched a

1287
01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:29.079
ride with Zachary Quinto and there's a picture of him

1288
01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:33.399
with Zachary at the premiere. So happy birthday to Jacob. Now,

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01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:37.079
hopefully you guys all watch the short Treks and if

1290
01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:40.439
you did, then you know that tribles. What the tribles

1291
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:42.479
taste like if you shave them down, Eric.

1292
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:46.600
They taste like scallops, like a's right, and.

1293
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:52.439
Would taste like chicken, Yeah, you would say.

1294
01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:54.159
Slightly.

1295
01:13:54.560 --> 01:14:00.439
Year if you watch the Short Treks episode The Trouble

1296
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:06.000
with Edward, then you would know why tribles multiply and

1297
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.920
who caused that. And so we want to say happy

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01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:13.079
birthday to h John Benjamin. He's the American actor who

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01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:16.880
appeared as Edward Lark in Star Trek Short Treks episode

1300
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:21.760
The Trouble with Edward. He's an idiot. In that episode,

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01:14:22.119 --> 01:14:25.399
he injects his own DNA into the tribles and look

1302
01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:25.960
what happens.

1303
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:28.199
Man.

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01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:38.199
Yeah, why there is Danny Aaron is underwear in the ships.

1305
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:40.239
If you want to find out why, it only takes

1306
01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:41.479
like eleven minutes, because.

1307
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:44.880
That's okay, all right, I will. I will probably regret it,

1308
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:45.800
but I will.

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01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:47.479
That's a.

1310
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:51.600
Theory.

1311
01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:56.199
It's a fun one. And I saved this guy for last.

1312
01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:58.079
He's not a Klingon, but I think he's one of

1313
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:01.880
the highlights of Star Truk Discovery. I think his relationship

1314
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:04.600
with Michael Burnham is one of my best. For me,

1315
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:06.800
I think it rivals the Kirk and Spock. I think

1316
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:10.560
it might surpass Kirk and Spock for me. We want

1317
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.520
to say Happy birthday to Doug Jones, the actor who

1318
01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:17.039
played saruin Star Trek Discovery. And the short Treks episode

1319
01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:23.439
The Brightest Star. But my god, Paul, what hasn't Doug

1320
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:27.640
Jones been in? My God? He's been well, he was

1321
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:28.520
a silver Surfer.

1322
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:31.920
He practically lives at Guermo del Toro's house. I mean,

1323
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:33.880
I mean, he's been in so many garam.

1324
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:37.520
He was Billy Butcherson in hocus Pocus. That's where I

1325
01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:42.119
first saw him, and he really but he's like, yeah,

1326
01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:45.079
and he really had moths in his mouth when they

1327
01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:48.039
you know, when he's he's a corpse and he spits

1328
01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:50.720
those moths out. Those are real moths. It's like, I

1329
01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:51.720
don't know how he did that.

1330
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:57.920
Yeah, going way back to Hellboy, the early movies, right,

1331
01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:00.520
he was Ape Sapien, Right, and then went on to

1332
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:04.279
play a very similar aquatic character in Shape of Water

1333
01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:06.640
a lot. I mean, but it's just if you need

1334
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:11.840
somebody who can do you know, physicality, right, it can play.

1335
01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:14.920
He's a very very extremely thin individual.

1336
01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:15.159
Right.

1337
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:19.439
Had the good fortune of going to a panel at

1338
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:23.439
the last Real City Comic Con here in Portland last year,

1339
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:27.680
and it was Doug Jones with Jason Isaacs together, right,

1340
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:31.840
and they're just so funny. I mean, they were just

1341
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:34.800
amazing together, right, they had so many good stories and

1342
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:38.680
Doug dun'ts just He's just great. I mean he's super.

1343
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:42.359
I mean the dedication it takes just for a series. Okay,

1344
01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:43.960
it's one thing to do a picture, right, but to

1345
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:45.800
do a series and wear that much makeup all the

1346
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:49.439
time as elaborate as the Rows makeup incredible. So a

1347
01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:52.560
legendary individual. Hell of a nice person too.

1348
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:55.399
And he gives great hugs. By the way, if you

1349
01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:56.920
meet him at a convention and you go up and

1350
01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.640
say hello, he'll give you a hug. He's a really

1351
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:03.319
great guy who loves the fans. I ran into him

1352
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:08.119
at Trek Long Island, their first convention. Uh he was great.

1353
01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:12.039
All right. That wraps up our Star Trek birthdays and

1354
01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:15.640
now it's time for some Star Trek news. Means we

1355
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:17.840
have to play. We got to work on this intro

1356
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:19.560
Eric for now, period.

1357
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:21.159
I got some ideas in the hopper.

1358
01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:24.359
All right, let's see if it'll play once. Maybe do

1359
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:29.840
you think let's try it or at all? Or maybe not.

1360
01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:35.319
I already won message from Starfleet coming in on secure

1361
01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:43.720
channel incoming transmission enter authorization code, command codes verified, define

1362
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:51.239
parameters of program level nine authorization required specifying parameters. Transfer

1363
01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:52.520
updata is complete.

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01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:56.000
A blank alert, A blank alert.

1365
01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:59.520
All right, guys, Star Trek News. All these segments can

1366
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.479
be found in their entirety on Trek Talking and beyond

1367
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:06.119
our Facebook page and Eric, you want to start us.

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01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:07.359
Off, I do.

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01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:11.239
Unfortunately, this week our first news story is more of

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01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:17.279
a recent remembrance. Rest in peace. Peter David, the legendary

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comics writer and author. Peter David, the comic writer best

1372
01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:25.920
known for a revolutionary twelve year run on The Incredible Hulk,

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01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.960
has died. A lifelong lover of comic books, David had

1374
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.800
a hand in expanding and reinvigorating the mythos of the

1375
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:37.680
medium's most famous characters, including Spider Man, Captain Marvel, and Aquaman,

1376
01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:40.840
picking up an Eisner Award for his work on Hulk.

1377
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:46.800
Following years of health issues, his wife, Kathleen O'Shea David,

1378
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:51.239
confirmed David died on Saturday, May twenty fourth. She did

1379
01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:53.600
not provide a cause of death. He was sixty eight

1380
01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:57.319
years old. Born in Maryland in nineteen fifty six. David

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01:18:57.479 --> 01:19:00.720
found comics as a child, picking up Casper Wendy books

1382
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:04.399
at the barbershop and seemingly never dropping them. His father,

1383
01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:08.279
a newspaperman by trade who occasionally wrote film reviews, would

1384
01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:11.439
encourage David to write his own. Though initially hoping to

1385
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:14.600
follow it in his father's footsteps, he'd eventually briefly give

1386
01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:18.119
up writing to work in the sales department at Marvel Comics.

1387
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:22.840
At the time salespeople jumping to editorial was frowned upond Still,

1388
01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:27.760
David found a champion and editor, Jim Owlsley, who published

1389
01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:31.079
a story penned by David in Spectacular Spider Man number

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01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:35.159
one three in nineteen eighty five, shortly after he began

1391
01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:38.399
his generation defining run on The Incredible Hulk and No

1392
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:40.520
Kid in Folks. If you haven't read those, you should,

1393
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:44.560
which saw the writer expand the Hulk universe, who introduced

1394
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.680
the Joe fix It Gray Hulk and elaborate on Bruce

1395
01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:52.439
Banner's complex relationship with his abusive father. He and artist

1396
01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:55.800
Dale Keowne would win an Eisner Award for their work.

1397
01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:59.279
Around this time, he wrote Star Trek comics, Supergirl and

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01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:03.000
Teen Titan, as well as the TV show's Babylon Five

1399
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:07.600
and Nickelodeon's Space Cases, which he co created with Bill Mummy.

1400
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:12.520
His twenty eleven run on X Factor, which is also fantastic,

1401
01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:16.600
was renowned for depicting a same sex relationship between characters

1402
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:21.039
Shatterstar and Richter. The book won a Glad Media Award

1403
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:24.680
for Outstanding Comic. Some of his best Star Star Trek

1404
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:30.239
novels include Imzodi which is great Triangle, Imzodi two, The

1405
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:35.039
Captain's Daughter which is also fantastic, Vendetta, and IQ co

1406
01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:38.760
written with John Delancy. David's health began to decline over

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01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:42.479
the last fifteen years. Following back surgery for a herniated

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01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:46.039
disk in twenty ten, David had a stroke in twenty twelve.

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01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:49.520
Three years later, he was diagnosed with type two diabetes,

1410
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:52.920
and he suffered a series of strokes, kidney failure, and

1411
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:56.000
a mild heart attack that eventually took him on May twentieth,

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01:20:56.720 --> 01:21:01.359
twenty twenty five. This is a tight of comic books,

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01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:05.199
you guys. This is a person who made a significant impact,

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01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:09.000
and not just in terms of being a comic writer,

1415
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:11.079
but in terms of the types of stories that he

1416
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:13.520
chose to tell and the way in which he told them.

1417
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:17.960
His writing was fantastic, It was insightful, it was meaningful,

1418
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:22.079
and I think it actually changed a lot of people's lives,

1419
01:21:22.239 --> 01:21:26.039
no kidding. So Peter David is a big loss, unfortunately,

1420
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:30.359
and we're sorry to see him go. But maybe we'll

1421
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.119
include him on our remembrances in the future since he

1422
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:36.159
did some Star Trek comics. But yeah, just really am

1423
01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:39.479
sad that he's gone, but happens to all of.

1424
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:46.359
Us absolutely Now. The next story was supposed to be

1425
01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:51.279
accompanied by a video. Fortunately, guys, we are having difficulty

1426
01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:54.279
right now with our video, so we're going to have

1427
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:57.199
to skip the video and you'll just have to imagine

1428
01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:02.880
it in your head, unfortunately. So Patrick Storart is back

1429
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:07.600
in space to promote an ironically geeky vehicle. The wait

1430
01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:10.560
for an upcoming Star Trek show isn't that far off.

1431
01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:13.439
But before that, we have a surprise return to space

1432
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:17.000
for Patrick stot This promotion, which I was planning to

1433
01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:19.920
show you has nothing to do with the Starship of

1434
01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:23.000
any kind, is for the return of the Deloreum. Those

1435
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:25.319
interested in going back to the future and buying what

1436
01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:28.000
appears to be a much sleeker DeLorean, we'll need to

1437
01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:31.760
visit the official reservation system and marketplace, which comes with

1438
01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:34.520
a bit of a catch. Users must purchase a twenty

1439
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:38.800
five ft, reserving their place among the first to buy

1440
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:41.239
the new vehicle, which is seen from the back in

1441
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:43.800
the commercial. A company image of the car is not

1442
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:46.840
available on the reservation website. It would have been great

1443
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:49.920
to see Patrick Stoart return and yet again for more adventures,

1444
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:54.439
so as to stinct possibility this advertisement maybe the last

1445
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:57.199
time we see him hanging out on the bridge of

1446
01:22:57.359 --> 01:23:02.439
a starship. And I suppose we could play the video

1447
01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:06.439
and mute it, David, Maybe, yeah, we.

1448
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:07.279
Can track lets.

1449
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:15.520
The video is actually the video is actually being narrated

1450
01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:18.159
by Patrick Stewart himself, which is why.

1451
01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:21.119
Wonderful that we have a fantastic chance to make money

1452
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:25.039
and sell NFTs to people who can't really afford it.

1453
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:31.760
Isn't that great nostalgia for Back to the Future are

1454
01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:35.560
able to give us some money. I feel like I'm

1455
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:39.199
a contemporary of Donald Trump, that I'm exploiting people for

1456
01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:42.000
their money and shamelessly hope I can buy some more

1457
01:23:42.239 --> 01:23:45.920
real estate with this video. Doesn't seem toybe working, though,

1458
01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:47.039
does it. That's strange.

1459
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:53.000
I'm flying across the universe, target acquired, that is me.

1460
01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:57.960
I'm on Mars, by the way. I just suddenly wanted

1461
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.920
to just slap this right in the face of advertisers

1462
01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:02.880
and say how much I just test the use of

1463
01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:06.880
AI any forms, particularly in depictions of my likeness, where

1464
01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:09.319
I would never appear in any such way. So I

1465
01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:13.239
just think it's reprehensible, and none of the t experts

1466
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:15.079
on this show would have anything to do with a

1467
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:17.920
any AI are in any way, shape or form, because

1468
01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:22.119
we all know it's a complete invalidation of artistic integrity

1469
01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:24.760
and steals money from the pockets of legitimate artists like

1470
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.000
those who I used to be friends with.

1471
01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:31.720
It looks so serious, it does, he says.

1472
01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:38.600
DeLorean raccoons don't. Don't confuse them with dumpsters like they

1473
01:24:38.760 --> 01:24:40.239
do testless.

1474
01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:42.119
You know.

1475
01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:42.880
You see.

1476
01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:47.920
He's just jumped right in.

1477
01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:52.159
I love it id because he knows that's happened, right,

1478
01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:59.199
that's happened. Yes, they don't explode, They they don't pull

1479
01:24:59.279 --> 01:24:59.880
up when you drive.

1480
01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:05.199
Actually, it's just like, well, I don't know why this

1481
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:07.039
is a news story. I mean, I know it has

1482
01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:10.319
to do with Patrick Stewart, but it's like everything we're against.

1483
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:14.960
Right, I wanted to play it because Patrick Stewart narrates it.

1484
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:17.479
It's it's kind of cool. When you hear it, it

1485
01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:20.039
lessens your opinion of Patrick Stewart Man. It makes you

1486
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:22.279
realize he's as much of a shill as like Trump

1487
01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:22.920
and Bitcoin.

1488
01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:27.840
I mean this, No, we should not be it. We

1489
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:30.119
shouldn't be showing shining light and exposure on this kind

1490
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:32.960
of thing. I'm against it. Yeah, it just it makes

1491
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:33.840
him look in a bad light.

1492
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:34.960
It's not good.

1493
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:37.439
It's like when the Breaking Bad guys did like nacho

1494
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:40.520
commercials for the Super Bowl. It's just it's we they

1495
01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:43.840
This isn't helping anybody, all.

1496
01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:48.000
Right, our next story, Paul happy to.

1497
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:53.119
One of the things in the show a little unfiltered.

1498
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:55.279
So there you go. At least that's part of my love.

1499
01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:58.840
So you probably heard of Tony Newsome, right, known to

1500
01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:01.560
many as Beckett Mayren in the animated Star Trek Lower

1501
01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:03.760
Deck series. Well, guess what we have an update from

1502
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:08.439
her on her live action comedy series, which maybe might

1503
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:12.079
have appearances from some legacy actors. Right. She recently gave

1504
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:14.399
an update on the project, saying that there's a chance

1505
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:18.399
that some legacy Star Trek actors could find their way

1506
01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:21.560
into the new series. Now, this project was first announced

1507
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.680
at the twenty twenty four San Diego Comic Con. Now,

1508
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:27.159
While she didn't go into a lot of detail regarding

1509
01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:29.479
the new series, when asked about the time period it

1510
01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:32.840
could be set in, she said, the era is still shifting,

1511
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:35.119
but my dream of dreams is to keep it in

1512
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:39.039
the twenty fifth century. Yeah, so anyone who's on Picard

1513
01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:42.800
could theoretically be yeah on the show. My goal is

1514
01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:45.439
that all of these lovely people, all of our legacy actors,

1515
01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:47.800
everyone who's currently on a show. I want people to

1516
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:50.000
be able to show up with their real faces where

1517
01:26:50.039 --> 01:26:52.319
we don't have to like do some insane de Niro

1518
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:56.840
in the Irishman expensive Ai to their face. Wow, everybody

1519
01:26:56.960 --> 01:27:01.159
is against Ai. Solid saw, She's against it.

1520
01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:01.920
I like it.

1521
01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:06.960
It's good. The fundamentals of the series a workplace comedy

1522
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.920
set on a vacation planet like Riisa, but not in

1523
01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:14.760
the Federation. It's essentially the same. How did they pitch this?

1524
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:16.439
I'm just amazed, Like, we're going to.

1525
01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:18.960
Do it totally different, but it's gonna kind of be

1526
01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:19.439
the same.

1527
01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:21.439
It's going to be a lot like Star Trek but

1528
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.479
not really at all. Thanks Star Trek, but different and

1529
01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:27.319
I'm writing it. I'm funny, so come on, and she

1530
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:28.920
must have had a very successful bitch.

1531
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:29.239
I don't know.

1532
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:31.439
What I can tell you is that we're really working

1533
01:27:31.479 --> 01:27:34.479
on exploring are the sort of overlooked sections of what

1534
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:36.279
happens in a world and a culture that is not

1535
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:38.399
in the Federation. Love it.

1536
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:39.600
That's so cool.

1537
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:42.880
What happens when they decide to be so Federation outsiders,

1538
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:44.920
and what's kind of nitty gritty involved with joining the

1539
01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:47.960
Federation involved with Yeah, I'm really struggling to avoid spoilers,

1540
01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:51.720
she said. So we didn't get a lot from you here, Tony,

1541
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:55.039
We really didn't, but we're intrigued. We've learned that a

1542
01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:57.199
lot of your show has nothing to do with the Federation,

1543
01:27:57.399 --> 01:27:58.159
so we'll find out.

1544
01:27:58.319 --> 01:27:59.399
But there you have it.

1545
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:01.960
I mean, we've talked a lot on this show about

1546
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:05.840
how we would love like a Klingon themed series. We

1547
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:08.359
would love a rodulent themes that like, I just think

1548
01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:11.439
this is fantastic. To find out just a little bit

1549
01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:14.600
more about this project, and knowing that it's not Federation based,

1550
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:16.720
that makes me even more excited about it.

1551
01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:20.279
I gotta I gotta pitch something because she just pitched, right,

1552
01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:22.159
Can I pitch something to you guys? Just in real

1553
01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:24.880
time because we've done some we've done some good news

1554
01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:27.359
stories here, right, and we're a little head of schedule

1555
01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:30.319
shockingly with all the technical stuff. Let's what do you

1556
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.319
think about using the last ten minutes of the show

1557
01:28:33.079 --> 01:28:36.880
to just really embrace our new trexpert VA and we

1558
01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:40.000
all take turns asking her some questions to get to

1559
01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:40.399
know her.

1560
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:40.960
Is that okay?

1561
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:47.159
Sure? Well, Uncle Jim, what do you think can we

1562
01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:47.439
do this?

1563
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.399
Yeah? We have, we have the time, We definitely have.

1564
01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.359
Let's make it feel welcome by asking your questions. Okay,

1565
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:57.039
I'll start because I'm annoying that way. These again, Welcome

1566
01:28:57.079 --> 01:29:00.359
to the show. It's a good sport on here. I

1567
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:03.680
would like to ask you what, of all the movies

1568
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.119
that have been made from the Star Trek franchise, what

1569
01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:11.920
is your favorite Star Trek movie? I still be right,

1570
01:29:13.479 --> 01:29:15.600
I can ask your follow up, what is your least favorite?

1571
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:15.920
Starting?

1572
01:29:19.039 --> 01:29:23.199
No, actually yeah, I just have to say Star Trek

1573
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:29.000
for or the Voyage Home. Yeah, there's that wonderful environmental message.

1574
01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:31.880
Uh and I love you know who doesn't love whales?

1575
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:35.880
And there were so many, so many great lines in that.

1576
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:39.000
I mean, we had you know where spot can't use

1577
01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:44.000
colorful metaphors. You've got Kirk Thatcher, that punk rocker on

1578
01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:47.319
the bus that I think reappears in Picard, doesn't he

1579
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:52.840
the guy with the music which is, yeah, I still

1580
01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:56.319
hate you and I beraate you all that. And then

1581
01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:58.880
at the very you know, when they've got the when

1582
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:04.039
the bird of Press has crashed into the bay and

1583
01:30:04.079 --> 01:30:07.239
they're all swimming around, and that just to me was

1584
01:30:07.399 --> 01:30:11.920
just such a moment of unscripted joy among all the

1585
01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:16.880
all the actors. I don't know, just I just loved

1586
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:19.640
it for lots of reasons, but that's my favorite.

1587
01:30:24.039 --> 01:30:24.159
One.

1588
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:27.319
More. How do you feel about the direction that the

1589
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:28.399
franchise is going.

1590
01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:34.640
Well, I've been sort of late to some of the shows.

1591
01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:37.720
Like I said, you know, I only discovered DS nine

1592
01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:40.600
last year, and now I've been watching it on the

1593
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.359
Pluto TV app. There's DS nine and I'm watching it,

1594
01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:46.279
you know, when I'm when I'm awake and not at work.

1595
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:50.479
I'm watching it round the clock, and I've just really

1596
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:53.600
gotten into it. There's just some me being having a

1597
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:58.359
history background, you know, I just I just love the

1598
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:03.119
writing and d S nine enterprise. I've sort of I

1599
01:31:03.640 --> 01:31:08.399
haven't watched I've heard things about Discovery. You know, people

1600
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:11.960
have trashed it. I've seen that online, but I always

1601
01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:14.159
want to give things a chance. You know, I'm going

1602
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.119
to I'm going to watch as many of them as

1603
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:21.760
I can. But I don't know, I just think it's

1604
01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:26.439
it's amazing that, you know, Gene Roddenberry had this idea

1605
01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:29.680
and you know, all those those years ago, and here

1606
01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:34.800
we are today, you know, still still new shows and

1607
01:31:35.319 --> 01:31:40.920
we're still talking about it. So I think it's you know, pa,

1608
01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:44.560
can I say if Paramount Plus would would get on

1609
01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:46.640
the ball and maybe help us out a little bit.

1610
01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:52.279
But uh, you know, so I think I think it's

1611
01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:55.119
I think it's got potential. I mean it's continuing. I

1612
01:31:55.479 --> 01:31:57.520
hope it continues for a while longer.

1613
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:01.079
Awesome.

1614
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:05.520
So Victoria, what's your what's your Star Trek origin story?

1615
01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:07.399
How did you get into Star Trek?

1616
01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:12.000
Well, I think if you saw earlier, the one picture

1617
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:17.880
of me when I'm just just impossibly young, that one

1618
01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:22.560
with Walter Kinig that was in August of nineteen eighty four,

1619
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:26.239
there was a okay, well, I have to go back

1620
01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:30.800
a little bit. I used to do singing telegrams when

1621
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:31.840
I back then.

1622
01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:32.159
Love.

1623
01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:36.239
Yeah, you realize that as I'm recruiting you for the band.

1624
01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:42.960
Right, Yeah, I don't know if I sing anymore. But so,

1625
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:46.720
long story shirt, Okay, So there's this fourteen year old

1626
01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:51.920
kid that came up with doing a convention in Virginia

1627
01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:54.800
Beach in nineteen eighty four because that's where I grew up,

1628
01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:58.279
in Virginia Beach, and he got Walter Kinig and he

1629
01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:05.079
got Richard hat from Battlestar Galactica, and his sisters wanted

1630
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:08.520
to do something special for him. So they wanted a

1631
01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:13.399
because sometimes I could, you know, when I was when

1632
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:16.079
I still had half a brain and I was more creative.

1633
01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:19.600
I wish I still had it. But I wrote a

1634
01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:22.239
Star Trek. I think I did it. I think I

1635
01:33:22.359 --> 01:33:26.960
did the song to the Star Trek theme, and I'll

1636
01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:29.520
have to find the picture where I dressed up sort

1637
01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:32.560
of try to do my version of an alien. But

1638
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:36.479
I wound up going to the convention and then you know,

1639
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:40.199
got changed and then did the singing telegram for the kid,

1640
01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:45.239
and Walter and Richard Hatch were at his house and everything.

1641
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:50.000
So that's kind of a convoluted story. But I've always

1642
01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:54.800
I've watched I watched the original series Endless reruns and

1643
01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:58.199
I think Next Gen was the first one that I

1644
01:33:58.560 --> 01:34:00.439
was the only one that I watched as it first

1645
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:04.439
came on, and I was just against watching any of

1646
01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:07.680
the others. And then you know, getting into DS nine

1647
01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:09.920
and loving it so much, I said, idiot, you know,

1648
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:12.800
why didn't I watch it when it first came on,

1649
01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:16.119
Because there's so much you know, I think Far Beyond

1650
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:19.840
the Stars and Past Tense are two of my favorites

1651
01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:23.560
just because of the history and you know, doing what

1652
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:27.359
I do. I'm just I'm not into eighteenth century history,

1653
01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:30.359
but I you know, I see, you know, it just

1654
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:33.479
it just weaves its way through everything. And so those

1655
01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:37.079
are two of my favorite episodes in DS nine, And

1656
01:34:37.119 --> 01:34:39.560
then of course Lower Decks like how did I miss that?

1657
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:43.640
And now I want to watch Strange New Worlds get

1658
01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:47.239
into that. So and I went to like I said,

1659
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:49.920
I went to my first convention, my first major one

1660
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:56.640
the end of March Galaxy con and Richmond and got

1661
01:34:56.680 --> 01:34:59.239
to meet or or had a picture with I think

1662
01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:02.800
that was up there as well, with William Shatner and

1663
01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:06.760
Jonathan Frakes. And it was right after William Shatner's birthday.

1664
01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.960
He's ninety four. Holy crap. And I got to you know,

1665
01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:12.159
you have like two seconds when you go up there,

1666
01:35:12.800 --> 01:35:16.079
and I said, happy birthday. And then I told Jonathan Frakes,

1667
01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:21.039
I said, you are still riker hot nice but she is, Yeah,

1668
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:23.760
he is. I got to say that in like two seconds.

1669
01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:30.159
So yeah, and oh and I also I forgot to

1670
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:33.840
talk to him about his Star Trek role. But Alan

1671
01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:37.279
Ruck was there, who had been you know, Cameron in

1672
01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:41.279
Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and I was talking with him.

1673
01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:43.159
There was nobody at his table. So I just went

1674
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:45.720
up and just you know, told him I'm much I

1675
01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:48.000
appreciate it him. And I forgot about he was in.

1676
01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:50.359
I forgot which Star Trek, but he was.

1677
01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:54.239
He was in there not until Tuesday. He was only good.

1678
01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:58.760
That's right to keep calling me and calling me the

1679
01:35:58.840 --> 01:35:59.960
first captain of that ship.

1680
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:03.479
Yes, yeah, so and I want to go. I want

1681
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:05.680
to go to another one. I want to go. I

1682
01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:08.319
would really like to, if I can swing it, go

1683
01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:11.399
to the one in New Jersey in the beginning of

1684
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.560
September because there are lots of Star Trek people there.

1685
01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:19.680
So you know, I guess my as I'm getting older,

1686
01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:22.199
I'm getting bolder, you could say.

1687
01:36:23.039 --> 01:36:26.720
So absolutely, Well, well, make sure you're bold enough one

1688
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:29.359
day to watch Star Trek Voyager as well.

1689
01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:32.600
Because you oh yeah, oh yeah, oh no, I love Voyager.

1690
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:36.399
Oh yeah, ok, yeah, yes, because that's my that was

1691
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:38.479
my whole thing. And I because I have to meet

1692
01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:42.880
Kate Mulgrew because that my outfit that I'm wearing. I

1693
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:47.359
made because we're history nerds, are Sciphi nerds. I have

1694
01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:52.560
a I made an eighteenth century version of a Racknea's

1695
01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:56.920
gown from Captain Proton, and I have to meet I

1696
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:00.479
have to meet Kate Mulgrew wearing that. I know she

1697
01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:02.560
will appreciate it. So she's going to be at that

1698
01:37:02.920 --> 01:37:04.000
one in September.

1699
01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:08.399
Oh yeah, it's so exciting to my gosh.

1700
01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:09.279
I know I have to.

1701
01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:13.319
I just especially wearing that gown, because that's that's quite

1702
01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:17.079
a thing to turn What was Captain Proton was like

1703
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:21.399
a nineteen thirties or forties Holid Deck program. But they're,

1704
01:37:21.560 --> 01:37:24.439
you know, voyagers in the twenty fourth century, and I'm

1705
01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:27.279
converting it to the eighteenth century. Figure that out.

1706
01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:30.880
She would be smart enough to figure all that out.

1707
01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:31.359
I love it.

1708
01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:37.399
Yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting. So that's a sort of

1709
01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:42.560
jumbled version but i'm I think, I'm I'm never going

1710
01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:43.000
to stop.

1711
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:46.159
So oh man, that's great. Thanks for sharing that with us.

1712
01:37:46.279 --> 01:37:47.960
Jim David, what do you got.

1713
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:55.439
Well, the Colonial Williamsburg Colonials or Union Army.

1714
01:37:56.520 --> 01:37:59.800
Oh no, not that. No, it's eighteenth century, so it's

1715
01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:08.479
this is the Revolution, so no union yet, but colonial Well,

1716
01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:13.520
Williamsburg was Virginia's second capital city from sixteen ninety nine

1717
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:18.800
to seventeen eighty. And you know, everybody always talks about,

1718
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:21.640
you know, everything happening in Philadelphia and all that stuff,

1719
01:38:22.079 --> 01:38:25.479
but a lot of things happened here. So this is

1720
01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:28.680
where they called for the forming of the Continental Congress,

1721
01:38:28.880 --> 01:38:32.199
and it was a Virginian that wrote the resolution that

1722
01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:37.159
eventually got voted on for independence. So lots of stuff.

1723
01:38:37.199 --> 01:38:39.279
If you all can come here, I will give you

1724
01:38:39.399 --> 01:38:41.920
a personal tour, and if you can bring a Star

1725
01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.760
Trek Star that'll be extra extra points. Yeah.

1726
01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:50.880
Well a Klingon might show up waving as batlet around.

1727
01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:54.159
You never know, all right, that's that would be cool. Actually,

1728
01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:59.399
one of the managers here he's a big Star Trek fan.

1729
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:04.600
So I would love to see a live action series

1730
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:07.760
with the Klingon brothers from Lower Decks, the blood Wine

1731
01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:11.920
Brothers whose names escape me right now. But I thought

1732
01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:16.359
they were great. Yeah, yeah, I thought they were great.

1733
01:39:16.840 --> 01:39:19.359
So are you you planning to come back and join

1734
01:39:19.479 --> 01:39:21.279
us again next week or did we scare you?

1735
01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:21.680
Yes?

1736
01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:24.439
No, are you kidding? It takes more than that to

1737
01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:28.479
scare me away? Gosh, No, I would love to come back.

1738
01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:31.439
We did have a lot of we haven't officially talked

1739
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:32.720
about it, but I'm pretty sure you're in.

1740
01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:37.920
Okay, okay, all right, yeah, because if you would say

1741
01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:40.960
to me that, oh, you sucked, we hate you, don't

1742
01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:44.760
ever come back, you know, on this live thing, that

1743
01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:47.399
that would be really kind of a terrible thing.

1744
01:39:49.359 --> 01:39:55.800
Well, you aren't catching us at our best. Uh we uh,

1745
01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:59.479
usually our miracle worker, David is more of a miracle worker.

1746
01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:02.039
But it's it's okay. That's that's why I like the

1747
01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:09.560
eighteenth century. I understand the technology absolutely digital stuff, that's yeah.

1748
01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:11.760
But I but I'm learning, I always, you know, I'm

1749
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:14.239
always learning. So I was able to do this, So

1750
01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:17.159
that's a that's a big deal. So yeah, now, this

1751
01:40:17.399 --> 01:40:18.000
this was great.

1752
01:40:18.119 --> 01:40:18.760
This was great.

1753
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:20.279
I really enjoyed it.

1754
01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:24.880
Well, welcome aboard, friend, thank you, thank you.

1755
01:40:26.159 --> 01:40:28.039
David did you have any questions for val.

1756
01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:31.840
I actually got a couple. So you said, Riker hot.

1757
01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:34.000
So do you like Riker with a beard or without

1758
01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:34.399
a beard?

1759
01:40:35.079 --> 01:40:35.199
Uh?

1760
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:43.159
Definitely with the beard. Okay, with the beard, Yeah, and

1761
01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:47.119
doing the Riker maneuver. And have you all seen the

1762
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:49.199
I think I don't know if he sells it, but

1763
01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:55.880
somebody made a Riker clock where his legs and I

1764
01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:58.640
wanted I was trying, I want to, I want to

1765
01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:02.199
make Still I put it aside because I couldn't get

1766
01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:05.439
it to work. You know, the the naked Boimler where

1767
01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:07.039
he's kind of like going like this.

1768
01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:15.279
I never figured out.

1769
01:41:16.359 --> 01:41:21.239
Yeah, yeah, I think that was Boimler on the Holiday.

1770
01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:26.119
But yeah, the Riker clock is hilarious. Well, and I

1771
01:41:26.199 --> 01:41:28.199
also like the fact that he's just he's a good

1772
01:41:28.279 --> 01:41:32.079
guy and he's been married to Jeanie Francis, who I

1773
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:34.439
was a fan of when she was on General Hospital,

1774
01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:38.840
and so he's he just seemed you know, I'd love

1775
01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:40.960
to he just seems like a really good guy. And

1776
01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:44.199
he also did the what was that show where it

1777
01:41:44.319 --> 01:41:48.960
was truth or factor fiction and he goes through all

1778
01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:52.760
these scenarios and you have to guess whether the story

1779
01:41:52.960 --> 01:41:54.319
was true or not? Have you seen that?

1780
01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:56.560
Yeah, beyond belief factor fiction.

1781
01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:02.600
That's right, Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, cool, Yeah, definitely

1782
01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:04.600
the Riker beer doing the Riker maneuver.

1783
01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:05.680
Ye.

1784
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:10.119
I've got one more question regarding your background for the

1785
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:15.840
eighteenth century Revolution they were. I liked watching a lot

1786
01:42:15.920 --> 01:42:18.479
of the shows that they've been coming out with the

1787
01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:20.880
Revolution they were, and I wanted to get your opinion

1788
01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:24.359
on like how accurate to do some of those movies

1789
01:42:24.439 --> 01:42:26.800
actually portray Like have you ever seen the movie what

1790
01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:29.840
a TV show called Shark with Sean being in it?

1791
01:42:31.439 --> 01:42:35.840
Which one? Which one is that I didn't I kind

1792
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:36.960
of you kind of glitched out?

1793
01:42:37.039 --> 01:42:40.760
Yeah, sorry, Oh yeah, it's called Shark with an e

1794
01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:42.000
at the year.

1795
01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:44.199
I don't think. No, I haven't seen that one. I

1796
01:42:44.319 --> 01:42:48.319
know they filmed like parts of Turn here, but I

1797
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:51.000
haven't seen that. I haven't seen that one. There was

1798
01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:55.720
also the John Adams mini series and then oh also

1799
01:42:56.239 --> 01:43:00.760
Ken Burns is coming out in November with because if

1800
01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:05.880
you've ever seen any of his film series, he's absolutely

1801
01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:08.720
the best, and he's he's coming out with the American

1802
01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:12.319
Revolution series and he filmed a lot here because we're

1803
01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:16.680
like the biggest you know, eighteenth century living history site

1804
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:21.880
in the world. So I have the ones that I've seen.

1805
01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:26.439
Sometimes they take you know, pardon the pun, liberties with things,

1806
01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:33.239
hah yeah, but sorry, couldn't resist. But you know, they

1807
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:35.399
I don't know, because we have a there's a film

1808
01:43:35.479 --> 01:43:38.399
that people see that they've been showing at the visitor

1809
01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:42.119
center called Story of a Patriot and it's from I

1810
01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:47.199
think nineteen fifty something and it has an unknown Jack

1811
01:43:47.399 --> 01:43:53.720
Lord that's playing the lead characters before his Hawaii five

1812
01:43:53.800 --> 01:43:57.039
o days. That's called Story of a Patriot and it's

1813
01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:01.159
that one is because it was in the fifties and

1814
01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:04.079
the history of the time, it's not quite There's a

1815
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:08.439
lot that they they leave out as far as the

1816
01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:12.800
deeper reality of our history. But I don't know. I

1817
01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:16.680
have to I have to watch a series and sometimes

1818
01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:19.239
I can, you know, with the military aspects of it,

1819
01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:21.760
I can't tell if they're correct or not. But the

1820
01:44:21.840 --> 01:44:22.399
clothing I.

1821
01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:28.680
Can so somewhat similar to the other Patriot movie that

1822
01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:29.680
mel Gibson did.

1823
01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:33.840
That one I haven't even I haven't seen either because

1824
01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:40.319
not a mel Gibson fan kind of eh. But I

1825
01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:42.720
heard that one was really good because it used to

1826
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.279
be where in movies like that. A lot of the

1827
01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:50.039
reenactors would be extras in those movies and so.

1828
01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:51.760
Cool.

1829
01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:54.880
There's so many that I haven't seen, but I heard

1830
01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:55.880
that one was really good.

1831
01:44:57.279 --> 01:44:59.840
Yeah. Well I think that pretty much answered a lot

1832
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:04.239
my question. But to thank you and uh yeah, welcome

1833
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:06.319
to the show, and I hope that you will return.

1834
01:45:08.199 --> 01:45:10.640
Yes, I will, I will. I promise. I'm not going

1835
01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:13.720
to go to all I'm not going to just disappear.

1836
01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:14.439
Now.

1837
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:17.199
This was so much fun. I really really enjoyed it,

1838
01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:19.239
so thank you so much for having me.

1839
01:45:20.279 --> 01:45:23.600
And shocker Jason Isaacs is in that movie and he

1840
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:27.680
plays a bad guy. Who would have figured who ever

1841
01:45:27.720 --> 01:45:28.560
would have figured that?

1842
01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:32.319
Well, the question is was Jeffrey Combs in it?

1843
01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:45.079
She was a horse? Oh boy? Well, I'm glad that

1844
01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:47.520
you saw the ad and you answered it, and I

1845
01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:49.279
think you're going to make a great mission. You're going

1846
01:45:49.319 --> 01:45:52.760
to be a great trek spurt, So welcome aboard. We'll

1847
01:45:52.800 --> 01:45:55.039
have to get you onto our page so that you

1848
01:45:55.119 --> 01:45:57.840
can have your own stories and your own birthdays to read,

1849
01:45:58.439 --> 01:46:01.479
which will be awesome. Before we go, I to remind

1850
01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:05.119
all of you guys that we have a special Tuesday

1851
01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:11.279
show coming up on June second, at four o'clock Eastern time,

1852
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:14.800
that would be my time and one o'clock Pacific time.

1853
01:46:14.920 --> 01:46:17.199
That's the rest of my truck Sperts. And we're gonna

1854
01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:20.239
have Bruce Horror, who played Hammer. I think an awesome

1855
01:46:20.359 --> 01:46:22.640
character and en R for those of you who want

1856
01:46:22.680 --> 01:46:27.159
to be specific, not not an Andorian, and I'm really

1857
01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:28.960
looking forward to talking to him. That's going to be

1858
01:46:29.039 --> 01:46:31.279
a great show. That's going to be on Tuesday, So

1859
01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:35.279
mark your calendars and try to be here if you can.

1860
01:46:35.880 --> 01:46:38.239
Yeah, I'm at work. I don't know how long you're

1861
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:40.680
gonna be. I could always jump in late if you're

1862
01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:41.159
still on.

1863
01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:47.920
Or yeah, that's okay. You know he's he's busy, he's acting,

1864
01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:51.199
he's doing stuff, and when we get an actor who's

1865
01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:55.479
currently acting, we just have to go on their schedule.

1866
01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:57.279
So oh, definitely.

1867
01:46:57.960 --> 01:47:00.399
That was the only time he had a veil, so

1868
01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:04.479
I jumped on it. Whoever can make it can make it,

1869
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:07.920
and that's fine. We'll do it, and hopefully David can.

1870
01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:11.319
We'll do a test show with you with Charles on

1871
01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:14.359
Saturday and try to work out the problem. All right, guys,

1872
01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:18.239
So I'm your most excellent host. Uncle Jim, and I

1873
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:20.840
want to say thank you and welcome to V to

1874
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:23.159
the podcast. Thank you for Trek talking with us tonight.

1875
01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:25.680
It was it was my pleasure.

1876
01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:28.880
And of course thank you to Eric for hanging out

1877
01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:31.199
and Trek talking with us. Thank you so much, Eric.

1878
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:33.920
A blast is always nice to grow the family a

1879
01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:34.479
little bit here.

1880
01:47:35.079 --> 01:47:37.239
And thank you to Paul for hanging out and Trek

1881
01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:39.520
talking with us as well. Thank you so much, Paul.

1882
01:47:40.239 --> 01:47:42.319
A lot of fun tonight, Jim, And it's nice that

1883
01:47:42.399 --> 01:47:45.279
we've got a good, big table to welcome someone new,

1884
01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:47.840
so delightful, so great to have you with us me.

1885
01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:50.600
And thanks for all the thanks for all the laughs.

1886
01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:53.560
I just I really it's always good to laugh. And

1887
01:47:55.199 --> 01:47:58.840
maybe maybe I'll open up. I mean, I've been pretty

1888
01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:01.359
much myself, but I'm I. You know, as I get

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to know you better, I might, you know, be a

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little more out there.

1891
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We'll see good good. We leave your filter at the door.

1892
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Okay, all right, let's see what's out there. And thank

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you David for hanging out and all the wonderful work

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you did on our Echo Echo Echo video video video.

1895
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I appreciate it. We'll get that worked out by next week, hopefully.

1896
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Hopefully, And I'm wondering do we play the end video

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or do we wait for an ax?

1898
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I have I have the audio that I'll play, because

1899
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if you play the video, it'll echo, So I have

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the audio. Thank you to welcome to be yes, welcome.

1901
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Thank you, thank you. And it was wonderful meeting all

1902
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of you, albeit virtually.

1903
01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:48.520
So now Tuesday we're going to be talking to Himmer.

1904
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But our regular Thursday show is going to be the

1905
01:48:51.800 --> 01:48:57.920
USS Callister from the Netflix series Black Mirror, which was

1906
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a not a total start spoof but mostly Star Trek spoof,

1907
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and now we're gonna be talking about that next week

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as well. So I'm your most excellent hosts, Uncle Jim saying,

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please everybody stay safe and be good to each other. Member.

1910
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Star Trek fans are the best fans. Hailing frequencies are closed.

1911
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Good night, everybody up there. We don't have the video

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to play you guys out, so I'm gonna play the

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old fashioned audio and you just have to imagine Patrick's

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on the screen a stasis.

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I'm ready for departure, sir.

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Some problem, right, I'm just hoping this isn't the usual

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way of missions. Will build said, oh, no, Number one.

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I'm sure most will have been much more interesting. Let's

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see what's out there

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And games