June 12, 2026

Episode 689 - Cecilia Lee: From Romulan to Renaissance Woman

Episode 689 - Cecilia Lee: From Romulan to Renaissance Woman
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In this engaging episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, host Uncle Jim and his co-hosts welcome Canadian actress Cecilia Lee, known for her role as a Romulan in Starfleet Academy. The conversation covers a range of topics, including the challenges and joys of acting, the duality of working both in front of and behind the camera, and the impact of Star Trek on fans and culture. Cecilia shares her experiences on set, her passion for dialects, and her thoughts on the online criticism surrounding Starfleet Academy. The episode concludes with discussions about the legacy of Star Trek and the dynamics of the cast. In this engaging conversation, the participants delve into the dynamics between the War College and Starfleet, exploring character development, personal aspirations, and the values that Star Trek embodies. They discuss the impact of the show's cancellation, favorite episodes, and the emotional depth of characters, while also touching on behind-the-scenes experiences and the importance of diversity and inclusivity in storytelling. In this engaging conversation, Cecilia Lee shares her thoughts on fantasy genres, particularly her enjoyment of the 'Rings of Power' series. The discussion transitions into the intricate process of character transformation in acting, highlighting the multi-step journey actors undergo to embody their roles. Cecilia emphasizes the artistry involved in costume design and makeup, showcasing the dedication of the teams behind the scenes. The podcast concludes with heartfelt farewells and hopes for future collaborations, leaving listeners with a deeper appreciation for the craft of acting and the fantasy worlds they love. In this engaging conversation, the hosts celebrate the birthdays of various iconic actors, discuss their contributions to film and television, and delve into the complexities of character development in Star Trek, particularly focusing on Worf's parenting challenges. They also highlight William Shatner's vibrant spirit at 95 and the exciting upcoming community theater production of 'Con the Musical' that brings Star Trek to life in a new way.
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Well, good evening, Trekkies and treks around the Globe. It's Thursday,

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June eleventh, twenty twenty six. Welcome to episode six and

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eighty nine of Track Talk and the Beyond. I'm your

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most excellent host, Uncle Jim. How you guys doing tonight?

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We have a really great show planned for you. But

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Well, you know, I gotta tell you it's it's pushing

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hello to Charles. How you doing tonight, child?

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I'm doing good.

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It's a sunny day, and tell me about one hundred

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Ere, I'm doing quite well. As a person who likes

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all burning up here. Yeah. And also employment when we

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potatoes of our show. Joining us live tonight, we have

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City Lee. She's right here on the screen with us

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right now. She's a Canadian actress, model, and digital creator

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known for her work in film and television. She has

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appeared in the Netflix series Beer Street, crom Queen, Wong

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and Winchester, and the TV movie My Dreams of You.

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She's also contributed behind the scenes and the camera and

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electrical departments. But we all know and love her from

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star Fleet Academy to Wark College's Favorite romulent Zo. She

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appeared in the first season episode Data Test, Vitus Reflex

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and Serious Acclamation. Mil Welcome to the podcast, Celia.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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It's been great contribute to the weather commentary up here

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in Toronto, can It is has been very sunny and warm,

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and I think we're in for a reckoning because now

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pay for that. Good weather. It's true.

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So I wanted to start off by asking you a question.

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I asked everybody we have on the show, and what

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did you think about our intro? Did you like it?

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Yeah?

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So fun and so varied and diverse, and I you know,

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like you diversify your interest.

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but mostly Star Trek. And we love Starfred Academy. By

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the way, I'm to have somebody from Starfleet Academy on

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with us. We're gonna have some fun. So I guess

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I'm want to start off by asking you if you

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were a Star Trek fan before you landed the role

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on Starfrey.

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They Yeah, I wouldn't say I was a fan. I

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enjoyed like I was a diletante.

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Shall we say. I enjoyed the movies when they came out.

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I watched a couple episodes here there, especially because the

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lot of it shoots here in Toronto, but I hadn't

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really gotten into it when I got cast.

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Did you know that you were going to be a

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Romulin when they cast you or did you find out later?

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Found out later when you auditioned for shows like this,

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it's all like hush hush, top secret. There's a code

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name for what the show is. Nobody's an alien in

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the audition sides. So when I was auditioning for this,

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it was like Jock from a rival college starts.

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A prank war spoiler alert series.

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But I had no idea until I got the call

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from my agent being like, hey, you booked it. By

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the way, they wanted to take a mold of your

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face and you're getting prosthetics, and I went.

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Oh, okay.

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And I didn't even know what kind of villain I

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was until later, until I actually got there and they

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were like, yeah.

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You're a romulant. Did you have to study up on

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unromulin history to bring that role to life or did

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they pretty much did you go into a cold course?

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I mean, for you know, sixty years strong misfranchises and

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such passionate, dedicated fan it's daunting stepping into something like this,

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And all you can hope for as an actor is

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to do your best, and part of doing your best

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on the show is to look into the lore. Because

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however much I might as an actors research, there are

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hundreds of thousands of people who know a lot more

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about it in the fan base.

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So I had my homework cut out for me.

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Did you keep a set of ears?

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Is at nor?

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Deny? That answer?

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Okay? Fair is fair. We could take that. So I

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wanted to ask you about working with that with that

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incredible cast, because they all seem to really gel well together.

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And what was it like working on the set a

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Starfree Academy.

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Yeah, I mean everything you see on screen at the

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at the expos at the events, it's all in real life.

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I mean, such a talented, lovely, warm, amazing set of people.

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Well I could ever wish for as a cast.

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And how about Holly Hunter? What was it like working

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with her?

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For being legend?

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A legend.

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Lendened? Oh my gosh, she's so small.

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I don't know the exact statistics of how tall she is,

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but she is tiny, and yet she commands a room.

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It was incredible watching her work.

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There was one day where she was doing her speech

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on the balcony I think in episode two, and all

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I had to do that day was, you know, stand

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at attention in the crowd, And so I got to

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spend twelve hours on set just watching her work.

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Her magic and it was amazing.

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I noticed that you work behind the camera as well.

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I'm not sure exactly what the job is, but do

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you prefer being behind the camera or in front of

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the camera.

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I think their apples and oranges really do enjoy both,

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and I am so grateful to have both in my life.

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They see different parts of me as a human.

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I mean I have so I work behind the scenes

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as a focus pullar, which for those who aren't familiar,

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it's kind of the technical head of the camera department.

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We're in charge of building the cameras and the gear

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around it and keeping that the camera department running smoothly.

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So that side.

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Feeds my very Taipei techie logical, logistical brain. But then

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the acting side is the narrative and the storytelling and

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the playful and I really couldn't imagine not doing both.

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I mean, maybe one day there will be a time

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where one demands more than the other, but it's a

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privilege to work in this industry. That's what I joined

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to do, was just to be part of something greater

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than myself and make these incredible worlds and universes come

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to life. And doing both has just further educated me

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in this beautiful art.

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Excellent, and I think I'm going to turn the microphone

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over to V because that's that's my ten minutes and

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now we're gonna shoot it over to V. So V

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take it a worry.

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Well to you. I was just in awe reading your

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IMDb and everything that you do and behind the camera.

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As when I went to when I went to school

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to cop one hundred years ago as a theater major,

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I did not listen to the advisors who said, do

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everything you know because you be employable if you're not,

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you know, acting on the stage. It's set designer, you

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can be a costumer, you can do this, that and

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the other. And I did not listen to it. And

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that's the But I'm just in awe that you do

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everything that you'd But I noticed also that you are

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and correct me if I'm wrong.

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But you am.

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I am very much into different dialects. I mean, that's

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part of what got me into the acting. I mean

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many things other than it as well, But I grew

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up doing funny voices, anything from you know, Charles Dickens

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book or or can you British? To Gollum and Lord

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of the Rings. I mean I was always doing something

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growing up.

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So yeah, I just I'm not too great at Do

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you have a favorite?

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Well, right now I'm working on my Kiwi accent, mostly

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because well now I'm thinking about it and it's getting

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in my hand.

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About the moment I think about it, it gets much

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harder to do.

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But if I just slip into it that that's what

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I'm working on right now and.

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It but the rest of it sounded really good.

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Yeah, that's true.

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And you know what, it's my favorite thing to sing

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apple bottom.

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Jeans boots with a fur. The whole club looking at

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her surely got low low low lo lo looyd loid

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in that accent. That's my little party tricks.

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I love it.

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That's awesome.

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Well, so I was.

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I went to see Conri back in March. It's able

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to I had met some Star Trek actors actually from

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DS nine, so a non visitor who was Kieren, and

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Terry Ferrell who was jed Zia, and then I got

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to Shimmerman who was Quirk and DS nine. You know,

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back in the day they were the I hate to

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say redhead of Star Trek, but they got a lot

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of help, but they still came out head. Eventually people

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both warmed up to them. But that was really before

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the time of internet stuff. And I was actually talked

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with an Arman because I was and I know you're

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aware of it too, and I'm sorry that you've had

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to deal with it, but just the online negativity Starfleet Academy,

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which I'm not a younger obviously, I'm not like twenty

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one years old, so I stilled for the fact that

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it was Star Trek and you had people like Holly

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Hunt just like oh, I would just absolutely, you know,

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just stand there and you know, drool looking at so

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fantastic and also, uh, what's it?

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Of course yes, I know I.

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Said before Dead Fair, Yeah, and truly so.

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But I was talking with him and I say, what

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behind because there was I saw so much. There were

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so many people that were just being so ageous about

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the older actors and then the bombing and everything like that,

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And that was right before we got the horrible news.

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And I'm sure if somebody had said, hey, guess what's

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what happened to Kenney, I think the the the con

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wouldn't just in Fury so.

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Word it.

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But I mean, do you think that. I mean, I

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think star Fleet Academy is wonderful and I can't wait

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for us.

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You don't get.

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What do you think it's just because you're in what

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we're dealing here in America? And yeah, it's just it's

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and and I apologize because that's I just feel like

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there's so much of what's in our politics that sort

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of negatively impacted. Do you all feel like that or

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something that it just happened to be you know, it

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hit people the wrong or I mean, what's what's behind me?

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Yeah?

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No, I hear you.

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It was definitely really saddening news. I think all of

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us really loved the show and loved everything it stood

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for and the youth it brought to it to the universe.

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I mean, I can only we can all only speculate,

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and obviously I don't speak for anybody.

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I have no idea. I'm an actor from the show.

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I'm the powers that be that that make those big decisions,

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and if I were, I wouldn't you know, there's of course,

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but you know, I think you know, it's hard to

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stay away from all the internet vitual and I think

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that's a big part of it is that we live

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in this age where you have these you know, very

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polarized parts of the Internet. And they would have hoped

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that the Star Trek audience that I know a large

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portion most of them did. I would have hoped that

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they understood the you know, that things are different. But

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that's what Star Trek always has been. Star Trek has

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been about change and hope for the future and innovation

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and exploration. And I'm sad to see that there's a

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contingent that is fighting against that.

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Well, I will watch it, uh in reruns forever and

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ever because I just love it so much. And I's

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out in serious acclamation mill oh my gosh, you every

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everybody just says it. Yeah, wasn't it just like, oh

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just that was just ripped your heart right out with

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even though it's a fictional character. I just you just

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grow to love all I at least I do all

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these wonderful even though they're still brand new to us.

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But you you all just had me though.

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We thank you so much. I'm so glad to hear that.

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And yeah, I wish I wish we had more time

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for people, so for more people to fall in love

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with everybody on the show and to let the show

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spread its wings.

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Yeah, it looks like David's next on the list, so

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we'll have David takeover. We lost Jim temporarily, but I'm

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sure he'll be back in a minute.

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Yeah.

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Well, I just wanted to say welcome to a podcast,

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and I hope you're having fun.

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So much fun.

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Cool.

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So my question to you is, so Star Trek has

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by generations of fans, what does it mean to you

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to now be a part of that legacy?

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An easy question, totally. I don't know, it's insane.

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To grasp that is, honestly, like, just be on the scope.

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I just have to be like, I'm so grateful to

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have gotten to play a little part in this incredible

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last universe.

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I had a blast doing it, and I hope people

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people liked it.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean it was pretty fun for the amount

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of episodes that you were in there. But yeah, I

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mean I can understand it be kind of like exciting,

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and yeah.

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It was exciting, and it was also exciting knowing the

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lore of Star Trek, of you know, the reunification of Navarre,

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of being a manifestation of that of the Romulents and

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the Vulcans making peace and working together for better or.

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For ours apart for like generations with thousands of viewers

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and so finally coming together and cool. I have got

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one more question for you, and I think I'll be

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passionate on the my friend derekare so, which piece of

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Star Trek technology do you with existed in real life?

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Replicators?

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Yeah?

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I mean I have a three D printer, so.

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There.

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Yeah cool. Yeah, repetators I think would probably be mine

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as well.

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Yeah, well what would not to turn it around? But hey,

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what would you replicate?

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What? What's your life? What's what's the dream?

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Legos?

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I don't know?

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All right? Hell yeah, like yuess it.

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Is cool, it's awesome. Well, I guess I'll send us

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over the ek.

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What would you replicate, Cecilia?

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Would I replicate on? Is it something food related?

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You know?

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I yeah, like one of those like six hundred dollars

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an ounce steaks or something.

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Or yeah, exactly? Come on? You know what? My for

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you page.

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On Facebook specifically has been I know Facebook, but has.

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Been seafood boiled book. Thanks, Guilty pleasure, filty pleasure? What

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can I say? And hey, if I want to go.

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Through to Brune, well replicate of seafood boil every day.

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I'm sure I'll get sick of it.

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Real quick.

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But while while it lasts, that would be a thing

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of gloria.

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You know what I believe as a person who whose

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desert island food is sushi, I know that there is

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no limit to the amount of sushi that I could

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possibly eat. So it's not hard for me to imagine

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anybody else that has a thing that they could just

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eat infinitely and be totally okay with. Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, obviously,

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thank you for being here. It's so fun to talk

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to you. You know, it's cool to have and I

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to have such a kind of like fresh face in

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the Star Trek community on our podcast. We've had lots

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and lots of actors kind of like throughout history and

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like classic people and that sort of stuff, and I

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think you're probably our newest, you know, actor, and so

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that's that's really cool to have you here. You know,

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you already answered kind of Jim's question about whether you

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were a Star Trek fan previously or not. But as

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you were doing your research and and you knew that

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you were this not not Romulin really but Navarren, Right,

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what were the character traits that you know, in your

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limited scenes that you were really trying to like bring

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forth and like communicate with your character totally.

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Yeah.

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I wanted because yes, I understood that the Navarre had reunited,

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but I also wanted to portray Romulin and Vulcan they.

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There are still separate species even though they were reunited.

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Having that contrast is really important of just paying homage

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the history of Romulans. And so I really went down

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the Romulin rabbit hole, and you.

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Know, found out about their key.

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Character traits, like they're cunning, and they're the way they

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were like you want to be zen, We're going to

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do the opposite of that, and so their their pride

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and secrecy. And then I was like, oh, but this

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is how this character is written. And they seem very

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open and brash and and loud, but I feel like

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there's also part of that in the in the Romulin,

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like in the nature. And then I got deeper and

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I found the Kawat Milat, the Order of Warrior Nuns

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and their philosophy of the way of absolute candor, and

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I was like, oh my god, this is absolutely this.

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This makes sense. Okay, So that's where you were coming from.

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With their Yes, So that was my inspiration.

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Love that. I have to tell you that that that,

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you know, order of nuns and kind of that whole

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philosophy of absolute candor. If human beings could live that way,

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I truly believe that we would be an entirely different race.

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Like it would be transformative, right if we could just

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throw away the secrets and just be honest with one another.

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But yeah, that's fantastic. I love that that was your

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kind of courtrait that you were going for there. Well,

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I thought you did a fantastic job with the character.

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We all had a really good time watching her. I'm

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gonna move just a little bit away from the show, though,

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and talk about some of the other stuff that I

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read about you. I read that you're a musician, and

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I am also a musician, and I'm curious to just

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learn more.

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Sure, Well, I grew up as a classical pianist and violinist.

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For a long time.

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I concertized, I did the exams, I did the recitals,

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the competitions and all that. I taught for a long time,

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for almost a decade actually, And yeah, it's a really

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important part of my life and hopefully one day I'll

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get to use it on set.

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What kind of musician are you?

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Well, I sort of started out as a piano player.

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I took a bunch of piano player or piano lesson

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excuse me, you know, as I was growing up. I've

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also sung my entire life, so I still sing in

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a local a cappella choir here in Portland. And then

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I'm also a drummer and a couple of different local bands,

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so I do, I do some different things. And I

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was just thinking about, you know, we're going to do later.

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One of the things we do on the show is

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we always remember people from the Star Trek community who

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have birthdays that are close to this date, you know,

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and sort of just talk about them and stuff. And

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Gary Graham is one of the guys we're going to

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talk about today. And I don't know if you know

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anything about him, but he was also a musician and

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had a Star Trek themed band. And I got me thinking,

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you know, girl, if you're looking for something else to

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do and you need to add one more thing to

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your palette, a Star Trek themed you know, chamber orchestra

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thing or like little, I mean, that sounds pretty cool

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to me.

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So that does sound pretty cool, all right.

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On the list on the list, on the list, Yeah,

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well they are you left out the most important thing?

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You're saying? Our thing?

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Saw I did? I Yeah, yeah, I do pretty much.

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If it's a if it's a song on the show,

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there's a pretty good chance I sang it.

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Well, well done, very catch you.

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I really appreciate that. Okay, So I guess over and

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above music. Then I often like to ask other, you know, people,

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like what else they like to do in their free time?

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Is there other stuff that you like to do? Do

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you read books? Do you take walks?

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Read books? For sure? Big sci fi lover? Just uh,

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just read.

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Artemis by Andy Weir? Yes, great book which was so fun.

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Yes, you know we we actually had him. We talked

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about his movie recently a couple of weeks ago. Did

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you see that?

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Of course I did?

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What'd you think?

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Oh?

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God, so good?

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Right?

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Loved it? And I had read I had actually read

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the book.

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I want to say to you years prior, which I

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think was the perfect distance, because I've made the mistake

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of doing them too close to each other, whether it's book,

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and then show or show the book, and I feel

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like one money is the other, and then you start

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comparing them a lot and being like, oh, but they

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didn't do this or they didn't do that, And it

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was quite.

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A faithful adaptation to the book. But I'm sure if I.

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Had just read the book, i'd be like, but they didn't,

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and I really liked that bit. So I think it

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was just the perfect thing of like I read it

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two years ago.

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I loved it. I cried, I laughed, it was so fun.

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And then seeing the movie come out and the.

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Incomparable performances of you know, the Puppeteer and Ryan Goodness,

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what is his name? Yeah, Ryan Gosling and the Puppeteer

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also yeah, yeah, I should know this because phenomenal work.

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I mean, the whole team just just incredible movie.

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James are tease, Yes, yeah, oh yes, So I I

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do read and I side quest right now, I'm teaching

483
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myself how to figure scape.

484
00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:01.480
That's the new was thing on the roster.

485
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:02.200
Yeah.

486
00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.359
We like, we pick things up and we put them

487
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:05.839
down in this household.

488
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.920
Yeah, I mean, absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's I

489
00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:11.880
when I do uh, you know, career fairs. I'm an

490
00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.920
architect by profession, and so when I do career fairs

491
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:16.640
for like middle schools and stuff, I talk about being

492
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.480
a renaissance person, right because that's kind of what architects are.

493
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:22.000
We don't we're not really a master of anything, but

494
00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:24.640
we know a lot about a whole bunch of stuff.

495
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:28.880
And that's what you're saying, right, Live life, learn all

496
00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:29.799
life life stuff.

497
00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:30.680
Yeah, exactly.

498
00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:34.119
Yeah, okay, just a couple other well, actually, just one

499
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.880
other quick question. And this is kind of one of

500
00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.359
those if this is too like you know in your head,

501
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:42.799
that's okay. But in vulnerability or invisibility.

502
00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:44.440
My first thought.

503
00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:50.160
Wasn't visibility because of its clandestine, clandestine capabilities, But I

504
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:55.079
think in vulnerability would just be a lot more fun. Yeah,

505
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:58.559
but not for like a superhero kind of perspective, though,

506
00:24:58.599 --> 00:24:59.319
that would be cool.

507
00:24:59.680 --> 00:24:59.880
More.

508
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.720
No, I'm starting to reach the age where everything hurts

509
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:04.759
and I'd like that to stop.

510
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.759
Oh that's funny. All right, Well, thank you so much

511
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.440
for chatting with me. That was really super fun. Let's

512
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.880
see who hasn't gone yet? Has Charles gone yet? Charles,

513
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:24.359
I haven't gone, Thank you so much. Since Paul's not here,

514
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:25.759
I get to the gabooz.

515
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:26.720
Okay, so you.

516
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:28.400
Rock up a little bit on that. There we go.

517
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:28.839
Okay.

518
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:33.680
I know lately a lot of streaming series, especially there's

519
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:36.799
always been a single person that's kind of the lead

520
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.400
in the show. Everybody comes in, and that's a person's

521
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:42.720
going to greet everybody. That's the person that kind of

522
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:49.039
unites everybody to a real core group. Who was the

523
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:52.680
person really was the core person in Academy?

524
00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.160
I mean, I think that role danced around a lot.

525
00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.720
But names that come to mind Kareem and Crese alliteration,

526
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:05.160
both incredibly warm, generous, open souls that I love so

527
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.960
dearly and I hope for nothing but the best fit

528
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:08.440
them great.

529
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.599
And then once we get a couple of shows in,

530
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:16.720
we're hoping for Blooper reeled. Who's the comedian on the show.

531
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:20.440
I mean, Crease immediately comes to mind. She's the funniest

532
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:21.640
fricking person.

533
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.480
But I'll also say George.

534
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:29.200
Has an incredibly dry English wit that just catches you

535
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:30.200
off guard.

536
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:30.680
Man.

537
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.640
This is That's that stories like that that you need

538
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.440
many season just to sit there and to see what

539
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:39.680
a cast really can do with each other.

540
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:40.920
They really just they.

541
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.079
Haven't hit the war college as much as I think

542
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.880
they should have in season one. Let's hope we see

543
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.240
it a little more in season two. But definitely what.

544
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.079
An interesting combination to not.

545
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.880
We're normally used to Starfleet being in there.

546
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.119
All of a sudden we got the war colleges in

547
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.759
there too, and it's like, okay, we've got a competing

548
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:04.559
college in the an entirely different, entirely Pacific characters, and

549
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.720
it just I want to see how that grows.

550
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.200
Yeah, really think War College biased for sure?

551
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:13.480
When I think War College is cool, it big.

552
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:15.559
Of course you do well.

553
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:16.640
And the thing is they.

554
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:23.440
They were War College well and they were there. Yeah,

555
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.640
and you guys were there before star reformed.

556
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:28.680
So we've been here.

557
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:32.000
We've been busting our asses protecting the universe.

558
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.599
Okay, yeah, yeah, they talked.

559
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.559
I don't want to I don't want to butt in

560
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.920
on Charles's interview, but did they talk about, like, as

561
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.759
an actor, the way that you should treat the War

562
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.440
College differently from Starfleet at all? Or was that just

563
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.680
a like was that part of the character, or like

564
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.440
the group of people that you were with you were

565
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.799
supposed to be like, oh, star you know, War College

566
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:53.359
is like this and Starfleet ammys like this.

567
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.920
Not explicitly, I mean a lot of it was in

568
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.640
the script as well as you know, passing comments from

569
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.960
showwrinners and all that kind of stuff. But it did

570
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:04.440
really feel like war College, at least what I created

571
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:06.960
for myself is like war College has been there since

572
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.079
the Burn, has been steadfast and had to be strong

573
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.359
against the trials and tribulations of the Burn, which was

574
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:19.160
a terrible time for the whole galaxy. And and so

575
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.680
that opinion of these you know, there are standards and

576
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.640
their rules and their protocols and there et cetera, et

577
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.640
cetera to uphold, and then Starfleet comes in with their

578
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:34.480
loosey goosey behavior. I can you know, I can absolutely

579
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.480
empathize with my War College buddies being like whoa, who the.

580
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.200
Heck are you? What are you guys doing? You know?

581
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.279
And actually this is a Starfleet example like Holly Hunter

582
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:48.680
who sits in her chair sideways and yes, absolutely.

583
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.960
Which is so different. And I think it's just a thawing.

584
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:52.599
It's a it's a it's a.

585
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.920
Thaw from a time where maybe that kind of laxity

586
00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:03.480
and joy and playfullss was is not really allowed, and

587
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.759
I think, you know, it just is a changing of

588
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:07.240
the times.

589
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:08.599
Yes, definitely.

590
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.920
Okay, I think one final question for me to get

591
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.359
you thinking a little bit, Okay, if you had a

592
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:22.480
dream role, movie stage, something you can film.

593
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:23.920
What role would it be?

594
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:25.599
What you You could.

595
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:27.480
Be acting in it, you could be doing the camera

596
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:28.119
work in it.

597
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.279
What's that dream role you're looking for?

598
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.039
You wish you could do? Dream role?

599
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.039
Medieval action, fantasy, anything in that genre. I grew up

600
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.160
mass a fan of the Lord of the Rings.

601
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.759
Could totally see you doing that. Yeah, that would be awesome.

602
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.880
I could totally see it.

603
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.720
Thank you. It's a story I tell a bunch, but

604
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.680
just because it early shows you manifest things in your life.

605
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.559
But I remember being a kid obsessed with the elves

606
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.200
in Lord of the Rings to the point where I

607
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:01.160
would take clothespins and I would pin the tip my ears.

608
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:09.079
That they would grow into Elvier's. But now on Star

609
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.839
Food Academy, my dream came true.

610
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:20.079
It did. That's why she couldn't answer that question. Yeah,

611
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.400
I love it. That is so Like that just warms

612
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:28.359
my heart. Man, that you got like your dream by

613
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.680
joining this franchise that you really didn't even know that

614
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.400
much about, but like understood the gravity obviously, Like once

615
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:34.559
you got it, you were like holy.

616
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.160
Shit, right, Like yes, I was screaming.

617
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:43.599
I was like, yeah, all right, well I'll pass it

618
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:46.240
back to Uncle Jim. Thank you very much.

619
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.640
You know, so, have you had a chance to go

620
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.839
back and watch see the Car and and look at

621
00:30:53.880 --> 00:31:00.559
Elmore and and how how he developed academy? Yeah, first

622
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:05.039
romulent And did you look at his work and try

623
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.599
to build on that or did you just kind of

624
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:08.640
do your own thing?

625
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.200
It did my own thing. I watched some Picard and

626
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.279
I wanted to see what had come before.

627
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.599
But I do think that I had the opportunity with

628
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.839
this character because of the circumstances were into in terms

629
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.240
of the reunification of Nimar and like and in.

630
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.680
Terms of post burn blah blah blah.

631
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.640
I think I really had an opportunity to do my

632
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:32.039
own thing with this character. So I mean, I hope

633
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.440
I paid a little bit of homage to the people

634
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.240
who came before, but really I wanted to be my own.

635
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.720
No, what about the death of Audia. We never got

636
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.400
to see any real reaction to that, particularly from your character,

637
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.839
because you guys were like brother and sister. Well you

638
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.960
were very close on the show. It came off that

639
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.559
way anyways, and then he died, but we never got

640
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.400
to see your character after that. How do you think,

641
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.880
how do you think your character reacted to the death

642
00:31:59.000 --> 00:31:59.960
of him devastate.

643
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.480
I am also very sad we did not get to

644
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.920
see Zola's reaction on the show, because yeah, they were

645
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.640
tied at the hit and so iron ie I like

646
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:11.759
to call us when we were on set. I mean,

647
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.599
I'm also really close with that actor in real life.

648
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.200
We've done two shows together now, and he's just a

649
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.519
gem of a human. But I remember, you know, the

650
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.119
late night You're delirious at three in the morning, and

651
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.039
he would just come over and he would like poke

652
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:33.000
my prosthetic as his little like stress ball. It's quick,

653
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.759
but no, like, yeah, he's you know in real life

654
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.200
and on the show such close, such a close relationship.

655
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:44.920
So yeah, I'm sad we didn't get to see it.

656
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.079
And I think there's a lot of there's already so much.

657
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.920
She's so protective. I think that's I guess, a core

658
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:52.519
trait of her character.

659
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:53.319
She's protective.

660
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.759
That's why she's a deck to the Starfleet Academy is

661
00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:00.519
because she just she feels strongly about about up holding

662
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:06.079
like strength and and and these values that that war college.

663
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:06.680
Is all about.

664
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.240
She's doing it because she loves so much and so

665
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.279
the fact that she wasn't there with her friends. I

666
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.440
think she she'll feel she would have felt so guilty,

667
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:20.200
and I think she would have crashed out so hard,

668
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.079
and I think she would have gone really deep in herself.

669
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.640
Yeah, yeah, I think I think I think you're right.

670
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.440
So what all of the ten episodes that we've had

671
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.640
the pleasure of enjoying, which was your favorite one? It

672
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:33.519
doesn't have to be one that you were in if

673
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.559
it's a different one, although the ones you were in

674
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:36.400
were also.

675
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.440
Thank you, I mean you mentioned earlier, but episode five

676
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:43.000
series Acclimation Mill.

677
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:49.400
You know, Carrie played that character. She's she's a wonder

678
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:50.000
to watch.

679
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.920
She's so impulsive and free and joyful with her work,

680
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:57.559
and she's a wonderful human to boot But seeing her

681
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.960
journey of growing, you know, this new the newest you

682
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.400
could ever be in this world, discovering herself and just

683
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.400
and having so much responsibility placed upon her.

684
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:09.880
I think it was just done so beautifully.

685
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.360
I know a lot of the fans really appreciated, you know,

686
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.800
the callbacks to the to the history and yeah, just

687
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:18.920
just such a fun episode.

688
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:20.199
I mean, Currise punched me.

689
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:24.880
In the face, like, well, I'm Jim I'm gonna butt

690
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.480
in one more time because I had. What I'm wondering

691
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.719
is Cecily now that you you're part of Star Trek

692
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.920
Law and that sort of stuff, like if somebody was

693
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.239
to say to you, what are the values that Star

694
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.000
Trek embodies, what would you say?

695
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:49.599
Hope, Optimism, inclusivity, diversity, Yeah, strike, yeah.

696
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:51.920
We we often talk on the show about about the

697
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.679
diversity aspect and the fact that you know, we are

698
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.639
all big fans of modern Star Trek because we recognize

699
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.079
what it has done, who it has brought to the table,

700
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.079
who it has given opportunities to, whose voices are now

701
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.639
heard that didn't used to be heard. And you know,

702
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:11.159
Starfleet Academy to me just feels like a continuation of

703
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.920
what Discovery started, you know, as a as a new

704
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:19.719
paradigm in Star Trek, and we just so much appreciate,

705
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.840
I think, as a as podcast hosts, the courage to

706
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.119
be able to shift away from sort of what what

707
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:32.280
what once was to something that you know, seeks to do.

708
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.400
What Gene always wanted to do was was bring everybody

709
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:36.199
in right.

710
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:37.239
You're so right.

711
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.519
I mean, Star Trek has always stood for pioneering, pioneering

712
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.679
that kind of stuff of diversity and inclusivity.

713
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.840
I mean, first international.

714
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.039
Kiss on screen Star Trek, if you went all the

715
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.320
way back then, and I think, you know, that's I

716
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.400
think that's what shall we say, A certain contingent of

717
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:58.519
Star Trek people have forgotten in that that Starfleet stands

718
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:03.320
for change and for giving voice to the people who

719
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.400
haven't had a seat at the table for so long.

720
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:07.880
And come on, it's zooming out.

721
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:13.000
It's a show that's show things that don't exist still out.

722
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.679
So I mean, you know, are you.

723
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.440
Really going to be like, oh no, playing on is

724
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:19.280
wearing a skirt?

725
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:25.039
Dad couldn't exist in this world where people are blue,

726
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:26.920
you know.

727
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:30.400
I think we're on the sage.

728
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.800
I got to say it. I love jad En myself.

729
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.519
I think I think that he's I fell in love

730
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.480
with him right away, and the more they developed him,

731
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.559
the more I admired him. In fact, I tracked him

732
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.159
down on Instagram and tried to get him on the

733
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.079
podcast because I would love to talk with him about

734
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.159
developing that incredible character. You know, And when I talked

735
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.639
to him, his voice doesn't sound anything like it does

736
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.400
on the show. So I wanted to tell us about

737
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.760
him as a claimant as he is as imposing as

738
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.119
he appears to be, or how does he get his

739
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:09.719
voice to sound that way?

740
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.039
We wish I could tell you it's a feat. I

741
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.519
don't know. I know he got some training and he

742
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.960
really had to work on it because it is such

743
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.559
a different register from his natural speaking voice. But he

744
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.519
was a truper man. I mean, excuse me to talk

745
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:27.320
about a leader on set. I mean that man was

746
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.199
there early as hell.

747
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.920
I think he had one of the longest prosthetic times

748
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.119
on the show. He was always there so late he

749
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.840
had he had his voice change. He puts so much

750
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:41.719
work into it, and I can only just commend him

751
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.519
to the moon and back for his performance.

752
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.880
I wanted to ask you about a couple others. Did

753
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:48.599
you get a chance were you on set it all

754
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.559
when Mary Wiseman was on, No.

755
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:58.880
I wasn't about missed a lot of people, most a

756
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.000
lot of people on this line unfortunately.

757
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.119
Well how about taking a tar all?

758
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.199
Yes, yeah, So tell us a little bit about her.

759
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.960
I just I love she's actually right now, she's in Albany,

760
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.119
New York doing a stand up comedy skit at the

761
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.679
Egg which I would have loved to go to I

762
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.719
have a friend that's there who's going to report back

763
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.320
on it. But I love her dead pan humor. I

764
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.480
love the way she commands the scene. What what is

765
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.920
it like working around her? Like does she track you all?

766
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:27.960
It's so funny.

767
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:32.000
But also that dead pan humor, it it's it's there

768
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:33.719
the whole time, and it's scary.

769
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:38.480
Actually it's quite intimidating because you're like, I don't know

770
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:45.519
how I'm a big fan, Are you serious?

771
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.400
What's going on here? Totally?

772
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.440
And the way she would deliver deliver things, it would

773
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:55.760
just cash you out guard and your yeah, just uh yeah,

774
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:56.559
So I want.

775
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.599
To work up yeah, real quick.

776
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:06.119
And she's say how absolutely adorable Tig and geper together

777
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.280
when they were they were just because as a mama

778
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.880
bear that I just was like, oh my god, I

779
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.159
just cannot because they are just so adorable and I

780
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:15.039
just wanted.

781
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.519
To So, yeah, that was because Gina, she has to be.

782
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:24.800
Well riot, absolutely boisterous energy for sure.

783
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.480
Oh. I also wanted to ask you about working We've

784
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:32.400
heard about how humongous the sets were. They have unfortunately

785
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.199
all been torn down now, which is a scene. But

786
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.159
what was it like working on these huge, huge, sets

787
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.159
that they had built in Toronto mind blowing.

788
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.280
You step into those sets and you're there.

789
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:48.079
It's the craftsmanship on that show was insane.

790
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:50.519
I mean they built.

791
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:54.039
A three story stage, two stages, fully functional, like you

792
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.320
could put a crane on the second floor of that

793
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.159
a tream it was. It was incredible and so immersive

794
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.519
and such a prove as an actor to step into where.

795
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.639
You know, a lot of these shows you're.

796
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.960
You're performing on green screen to a tennis ball and

797
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:11.679
imagining what's there. But you didn't have to because of

798
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.280
the work they put in on that show. Estimate to

799
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.800
the creative prowess of everybody involved.

800
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.599
How were you notified? How did they tell you guys

801
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.920
that they decided to cancel the show before before season

802
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.840
two even was you know, completed. How did they tell

803
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.639
you and what was the feeling? What was it like

804
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.199
to hear that We were devastated as bands, but you

805
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.760
guys poured your heart and your soul into bringing this

806
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:41.400
show to life. What was that like when that happened?

807
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:44.760
Yeah, I mean, I can't speak for my cast mates.

808
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.360
It was devastating news for sure.

809
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.599
All all of them especially put forwards so much love

810
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.760
and energy into it, and you know.

811
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.480
It was I was. I was so proud of the

812
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.760
work we all did. I think there was there was

813
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.280
so much room for that show to grow as well.

814
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:11.199
So all we can do is mourn what could have done.

815
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:16.440
So is there a possibility like will we see you again?

816
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:18.320
Or is your part in this?

817
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.599
I mean, is an assassin outside my window right now?

818
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.760
I just gotta say, you know, she can't answer that.

819
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.280
I mean, the show has been canceled.

820
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:31.199
Anyway, there's a red laser point for.

821
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:35.360
She's around here.

822
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:41.719
Well, so all right, so let's stance around this a

823
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.159
little bit. What would you like?

824
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:46.159
I love it?

825
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.559
Okay, what what would you like to see your character do?

826
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.800
Assuming that the show hadn't been, you know, cancel, Where

827
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:57.960
would you like to have seen her end up?

828
00:41:58.119 --> 00:41:58.480
Yeah?

829
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.880
Well, I would have liked her. I would have liked

830
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.400
to see my goodness. I would have liked to see

831
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.800
her process the grief and the loss of Bobby, and

832
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:11.760
I would like her to find her comfort and solace

833
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.760
in a new found family.

834
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:18.920
I think she has a lot of misplaced rage and attitude,

835
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.000
and I think it's a lot of fun to play.

836
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.679
But I would have liked her to see her warm

837
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.400
up to the Starfleet Academy kids, because eventually you see

838
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:33.519
they're actually not that bad. They're actually halfway decent about

839
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.280
solving things and figuring stuff out.

840
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.599
And maybe their methods are orthodox, but it gets stuff done.

841
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:41.800
And I think eventually I would have liked to see

842
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:43.519
her come around.

843
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.519
That would have been awesome. That would have been great.

844
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.119
Who knows their signing petitions. Maybe they'll do something else.

845
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.760
So what is your favorite Star Trek series? Of all

846
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:56.920
of them? When?

847
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:57.159
Do you?

848
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.239
Or haven't you had a chance to go back and

849
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:00.360
watch all six years?

850
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:06.039
I unfortunately have not. I'll update you once I do that.

851
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:07.760
I'll call you back in thirty years.

852
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.280
I'm going to hold you to that. You're going to

853
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:13.280
get a message for the.

854
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:18.199
Thirty years from now. Okay, so favorite?

855
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.519
Okay, that would be funny, That would really be funny.

856
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:26.800
Charles is actually putting it on the schedule right now.

857
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:32.760
Yeah, Hey, Google, set a reminder for thirty years from now.

858
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:40.199
So, Cecilia, did you did they did the writers or

859
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.400
did you internally develop kind of a backstory for your

860
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:44.599
character internally?

861
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.360
Yes, in so far as you know, finding who she like?

862
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.840
She is the only romulent at star Fleet as we

863
00:43:54.079 --> 00:44:00.639
see in season one, and understanding understanding what brought her

864
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:08.239
there and the responsibility she must feel to represent her

865
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.400
kind was something I wanted to hold as.

866
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:12.840
I played her.

867
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.079
Yeah that makes sense, love it.

868
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.679
Yeah, that's that is awesome. So so hold on a second. Here,

869
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.320
my dog just came running.

870
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:25.760
Dog tax. Let's see the dogs.

871
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:27.480
And this is one of the awesome things you get

872
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.880
on our podcast. You get dogs, you et cats.

873
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.119
Okay, okay, so my dog.

874
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:46.159
Is saying the dog just me No.

875
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:47.920
So I only joined.

876
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.239
I joined the podcast about a year ago, so this

877
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:55.599
has been quite the experience, just the blast. But as

878
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.280
you and Uncle Jim likes to share stories of you know,

879
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:05.760
actual encounters with Star Trek actors, and he told this story.

880
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:12.000
Ok I gotta get to it. You get to the question. Okay,

881
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.480
so there's a okay, I'll just all right. So it

882
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.239
was aq So in the bathroom and they're, you know,

883
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.320
doing their thing. They might like nod at one another.

884
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:28.920
So so now the phrase is guy nod's And I

885
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.239
was just trying to think. It's like, okay, since I

886
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:34.239
feel like I have an ally here in in uh

887
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.880
you know, another another female, what I mean, aside from

888
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.679
us going to you know, the no.

889
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.519
We do the oh my god, you're out so ute,

890
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.960
or you know what the solidarity.

891
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:53.000
Of being like ship? Does anybody have a tampon? And

892
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:54.480
every girl had.

893
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.960
Past But yeah, I didn't even think of that.

894
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:08.360
There's no solidarity life, right, That's awesome.

895
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:08.920
I'm sorry.

896
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.599
I just had to throw that out there because you know,

897
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:14.039
I got a quick question.

898
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:19.320
No, I wish.

899
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.760
I I also love animals, but unfortunately both me and

900
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.159
my partner work in film. In all hours, we really

901
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.440
want a dog, but it would be quite inhumane to

902
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.639
own one, and dog doesn't deserve that. So one day

903
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:39.960
when we settled down to calmer pastors, dog is in

904
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:40.480
the cards.

905
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:42.000
Yeah, David, you had a question.

906
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.159
Yeah, so to stay away from Star Trek. I just

907
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.360
had a quick question because you mentioned that Lord of

908
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.519
the Range was your favorite genre for like, I'm curious,

909
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.320
have you ever sharned the Range of Power TV show

910
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:54.199
that came out?

911
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.480
I did, yes, And what do you think of it?

912
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:58.159
Enjoyed it for what it was?

913
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.079
Okay, it was pretty out there, but I was just curious,

914
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:03.920
like because of the Lord of the Rings and now

915
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.280
they're coming up with a new movie of the Hunt

916
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:06.800
for Gollum.

917
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.039
I think it's what it's called.

918
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.360
Yeah, I think so. And I have the animated series

919
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:12.400
with the real hero.

920
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:13.000
I believe.

921
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.519
Yeah, although I haven't watched it, I feel like i've

922
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.840
I've fallen off in in in the new new.

923
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.159
Lord of the Rings content.

924
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:28.400
But I mean I enjoy things in that genre. I

925
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:32.559
think as a standalone show, I really appreciated it similarly

926
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:36.679
to The Hobbit. I just felt that Actually I won't.

927
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.480
Say anything, but I'll just say it was what.

928
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.159
It was, Okay.

929
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:41.800
I was just curious.

930
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.800
That's also my favorite genre. It's a fantasy version of

931
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.920
like any kind of TV show, movies and stuff show

932
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:50.800
because I grew up with that kind of stuff as well.

933
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:52.599
And I've been going to a lot of different types

934
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.960
of reisance fairs. I don't know if Canada had any

935
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:56.239
of that kind of stuff over there.

936
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.079
Well a couple, yeah, ran fairs for sure.

937
00:47:58.280 --> 00:47:59.880
Yeah, and so I was just curious, do you like

938
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:03.199
to dress up in your slash Romulin elf outfit?

939
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:05.360
Okay?

940
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.760
No, yes, I don't have the Romulin outfit. I wish

941
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.199
I did. I really wish I did that.

942
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.400
My gosh, can we take a moment to be to

943
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.039
just talk about the costume really quickly because my god,

944
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:24.880
they were so good. The detail was insane. I mean

945
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:26.960
I didn't get to look at all of the costumes obviously,

946
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.599
but like even the war college uniform, just the you know,

947
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.639
like the leather is embossed with little tiny deltas all

948
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:35.800
the way through. If you didn't see it, like if

949
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.079
you get up close, it's just like why would you

950
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.519
so cool? And like every measurement, by the way known

951
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.360
to mankind was taken up me. I wish I didn't

952
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:55.119
know existed. I was like, oh my god, you're taking

953
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:56.519
and they're like there are no.

954
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:57.239
Ways in space.

955
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.639
Wow, okay, so everything is actually there.

956
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:03.119
Everything is.

957
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.960
It's actually a funny, funny video of that just reminded

958
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:11.639
me of Marina Sirno Deanna Troy where she is going

959
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:17.840
through the UH Star Trek next Generation and all the

960
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.880
the under they had to have because I think I

961
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:22.320
don't know if she was the one that said there

962
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.920
were no pandelions and stuff like that, but it was.

963
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.639
It was really quite interesting, just just all the and

964
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:33.360
I've heard from other uh Stars, you know, like nine,

965
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:37.400
like the the all its universe, the the outs that

966
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.159
seem the most interesting but they're the most uncomfortable to

967
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:46.440
wear and so interesting just all the everything that you

968
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.800
all go through that looks shirtless and wonderful and we

969
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.639
don't know even half the story what you have to

970
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.199
but now I'm obsessed with that. You're saying that the

971
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:02.400
the your coast with like on your foreheads.

972
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:09.480
Yes, how long did it take you to get into

973
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.280
your kit? When when you got arrived on set? How

974
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:14.880
long did it take for you to step out of

975
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:16.400
you and into her?

976
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.559
Three a half hours? Wow?

977
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:20.880
Wow?

978
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:21.639
Yeah?

979
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:23.880
Where you're sitting next to Jayden the whole time.

980
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.079
A lot of the time. Yes, yeah, he'd be in here,

981
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:29.519
we'd be he'd be back here and he was like,

982
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.480
go hi. But yeah, it's a long process for sure.

983
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.360
And it's it's a multi step process, you know.

984
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.159
It's like you go get a wig cap on, then

985
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:42.880
you go to prosthetics and they put the forehead on

986
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.000
and the ears on, and then they start airbrushing and

987
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:46.559
they put the eyebrows on. Then you go back to

988
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:47.920
here to put the wig on, and then you go

989
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.639
back to prosthetics do more air brushing.

990
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:50.880
Then you go to makeup and.

991
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.039
You put your wardrobe on. It it's a whole it's

992
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.639
a whole journey getting into it. But I I think

993
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.840
it just it helps it help get into that headspace.

994
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.519
I'm an actor who likes to work from the outside in.

995
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.760
I think informed a lot about the of who your

996
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:11.159
character is by how they appear and how they dress

997
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:14.719
and how they hold themselves. And those especially the like

998
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:18.920
the formal leather jackets, the war college uniform.

999
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:23.480
Once you're in that, it looks cool. It's very stiff

1000
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:24.599
and quite heavy.

1001
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:30.039
Wow, and the collar is like tight because it's form fitted.

1002
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.039
And so you're in that and now suddenly you're standing

1003
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:37.360
so upright in your posture and you start feeling that

1004
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:42.199
militaristic quality. And yeah, it was a great process to

1005
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:42.679
be a part of it.

1006
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:43.840
I just have a quick question.

1007
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.880
So you're saying that there's a step by step process

1008
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:47.920
of putting all the makeup on.

1009
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.320
What happens when you end up getting an it. You

1010
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:51.000
have to start over.

1011
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.760
You stuck it up, you suffer, no hair is feeling nice.

1012
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:59.679
They'll give you like a pointy brash or whatever, and

1013
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.639
you can poke at it, but it takes three and

1014
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:03.920
a half hours to get into it.

1015
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:05.719
They're not going to take it off and put it

1016
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:09.360
back on. So there, and you know you're not going

1017
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:10.039
to work.

1018
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:13.239
Ruin the work of all these artists who are there

1019
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.000
for longer hours than we are.

1020
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.599
Shout out to the processing team who are.

1021
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.239
There every single day before we're there and leave after

1022
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.519
we leave, like just insane.

1023
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.079
I don't know how they do it, but yeah, I'm

1024
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:31.760
not messing with their work. Okay, curious, Yeah, lots of poken.

1025
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:37.360
Gone.

1026
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:41.519
No, no, wow, that's okay. This happens on occasion we

1027
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.599
have little technical glitches. Well I think we have. We

1028
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.519
have certainly kept you long enough to say you thank

1029
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:49.280
you so much for joining our podcast tonight. It has

1030
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.000
been a real, real pleasure. You were a fantastic guest

1031
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:53.840
and it was so nice to be able to talk

1032
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.920
to you and connect to somebody from Starfleet Academy.

1033
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:00.760
First guest talked with all of you. So lovely to

1034
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:01.320
meet you all.

1035
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:04.519
Yeah, thank you so much, and we of course wish

1036
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.039
you all the best in your next ventures and hopefully

1037
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.840
maybe sometime in the future after you you know, get

1038
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:13.519
to play an Elf and some other Peter Jackson adaptation,

1039
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.400
you know, we'll have you back and we can talk

1040
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:16.679
about it.

1041
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:19.800
If you're an awesome feeling and you get to use

1042
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:20.920
your your accent.

1043
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:21.960
Let's see that.

1044
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:30.519
Thank yes, well, thank you so much, Cecilia, and you

1045
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:31.280
have a great night.

1046
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:33.360
Thank you so much.

1047
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.000
By just in time, we.

1048
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:42.559
Were just saying goodbye, Jim oh laya stuff on my

1049
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:48.960
disconnected tonight to get back. So thank you so much

1050
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.480
for hanging out with us. And hopefully we'll see you

1051
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.519
again on Starfleet Academy and you'll you'll get another d

1052
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:57.000
M for me when we do, to come back and

1053
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.960
share your season two experiences with us when you're allowed

1054
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:01.000
to talk about them.

1055
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:04.000
Sounds like a plan.

1056
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:05.920
Okay, well, thank.

1057
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:10.840
You so much, bye.

1058
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:15.960
Bye, all right, guys, I keep getting.

1059
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.440
Well this time was anyway, was awesome.

1060
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:21.440
Yeah, it was really fun.

1061
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:26.639
Yeah, to talk to somebody who's talent awesome, absolutely awesome.

1062
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.840
All right, So well yeah, well, I mean I on

1063
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:34.440
the podcast, Well the fans shout out, guys, I think,

1064
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.000
so let's do it.

1065
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:43.199
Oh that's right, we don't have an intro for fan shadows.

1066
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:44.400
I want you.

1067
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:53.000
I was waiting for fan shout outs. Yeah, all right,

1068
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.280
it sounds like I got to go to you.

1069
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.000
We don't have a fan shout out the song, but

1070
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.760
we do have a fan shout out lecture for yours truly.

1071
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:03.320
If you would like to be featured in a fan

1072
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.280
shout out, head over our Facebook page Truck Talking and beyond,

1073
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:08.719
look for the live long and prosper into the pop.

1074
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.000
Tell us where you're from, leave lots of emo you

1075
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:13.280
look at our heart from yours truly, Uncle Jim. That

1076
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:17.039
means you'll be featured in a future ban shout out

1077
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:18.719
Eric take it away.

1078
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.599
Yes, this week, I would like to first shout out

1079
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.920
mister Michael West. Michael West is from the city that

1080
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:31.760
gave you chief engineer, Miles Edward O'Brien, Dublin, Ireland. How

1081
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:33.920
about that, Michael West, thank you so much for saying

1082
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:37.000
hello to us from Ireland. And uh, you know they

1083
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.679
do say that Miles Edward O'Brien is the most most

1084
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.599
important man in the universe. Is that what it is

1085
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:47.000
or in the galaxy something like that. Anyway, it's awesome

1086
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:48.800
that you're from the same place as him, and thank

1087
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:51.320
you for saying hello to us this week. We'd also

1088
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:54.679
like to say hello this week to Robert Urquart who

1089
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:59.519
is saying hello to us from Inverness, Scotland. Also on

1090
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.159
that whole series of islands just across the pond, where

1091
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:04.280
we have lots and lots of friends of the podcast.

1092
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.039
Thanks Robert for saying hello to us this week. I'd

1093
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:11.719
also like to say hello to Rodrigo ap ap from

1094
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:16.360
Brazil Rio Dejaneiro. And we actually have heard a lot

1095
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.280
of support for our podcast from folks in Brazil. I

1096
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.840
cannot wait to go there one day. Rio Dejanira looks

1097
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.239
like an amazing place. Thanks Rodrigo for saying hi. And last,

1098
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.480
but not least, on my list, I would like to

1099
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:31.199
say hello this week to Nathi Vanessa or maybe Vanessa

1100
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.599
Nathi And there's a comment in there from Chile, Yeah,

1101
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:37.400
way down in South America sending us that livelong and

1102
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.400
prospers sign. Thank you so much Nathi for saying hello

1103
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.559
to us. The who would you like?

1104
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.280
I was just thinking when you were talking about Brazil.

1105
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.599
First off, the the that Terry, what was the movie

1106
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.320
Brazil by a Monty Python guy that.

1107
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.480
Was really oh yeah really.

1108
00:56:58.360 --> 00:56:59.440
Remember his last name?

1109
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:03.199
And also isn't that where they have the gigantic Jesus

1110
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:05.840
statue there on the mountain on That's all?

1111
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.360
Yeah, yeah, that's the place, all right?

1112
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:12.719
Well, speaking out we were talking to Cecilla, who's from Canada.

1113
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.280
So I have my first hello and shout out to

1114
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:22.000
Vance Payne who is watching us or listening to us

1115
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:27.159
from Montreal, mont can't talk Montreal, Quebec to Canada with

1116
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:31.079
a little Canadian flags, our wonderful neighbors to the north.

1117
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.639
Then Susan Ray, Hello and thank you to Susan Ray

1118
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:41.960
who is in Wyoming. Next Jerry Lee from San Antonio,

1119
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:46.440
Texas deep in the heart of Texas. And last, but

1120
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:49.639
certainly not least a little and thank you to Lenn

1121
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:56.239
Trecour who is in Detroit. All right, so now I

1122
00:57:56.280 --> 00:58:01.280
fling the fan, shout out ball to Charles.

1123
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.559
Oh, thank you V and I think the guy behind

1124
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.719
but hopefully the noid doesn't bother any Hopefully the NOI

1125
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:17.400
doesn't bother people too much. Let's start off with a

1126
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:22.800
warm welcome to Eric Killman from southern California. Welcome Eric,

1127
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:32.039
and probably not too far is best singer from Durant Durante, California,

1128
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:36.800
who's three miles from the eastern fire, so stay safe, Beth.

1129
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:45.360
Welcome Todd Aaron c from Mississippi but originally from northern California.

1130
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:51.519
Welcome Todd and Finally on my list is Kirk P.

1131
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:57.639
P Discote from Nebraska. Welcome Kirk. I'm going to swing

1132
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.320
it back to Eric, who could pronounce this off?

1133
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:06.960
Are you sure, Charles? I'd like to say hello this

1134
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:12.079
week on Paul's list to Katia Costella Nogi from San Marino.

1135
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.880
That's right, San Marino, Katia, thank you so much for

1136
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:18.119
saying hello to us this week. I believe you're actually

1137
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:20.119
the first person to say hello to us from that

1138
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:22.199
beautiful city, so thank you so much for saying hi.

1139
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:27.599
Also like to say hello to Mbretta Spera from la Quila, Italy,

1140
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.239
and I haven't been to Lac la Quila, but I

1141
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:33.800
have been to several other places in your wonderful country

1142
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.039
and I can't say enough good about him. I had

1143
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.000
such a good time every single time I was in Italy,

1144
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.440
so thanks Ombretta for saying hello to us. Also like

1145
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:47.000
to say hello to Riq's Speared from Cronigan, Holland. And

1146
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:48.760
I actually had a good friend when I was in

1147
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:53.280
college who is from Groninggen Pimbas. Pimbas. If you're listening,

1148
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.239
I'm still here, buddy, give me a call. Rek Spear.

1149
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:59.880
Do you know Pimbas maybe you do. Thanks for saying

1150
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:03.000
to us on our podcast here. And last but not least,

1151
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:06.639
I'd like to say hello to Rafael Sees Alvarez from

1152
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.559
Barcelona in Catalonia Province in Spain, and I have to

1153
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:12.440
tell you this is one of my favorite cities in

1154
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:15.840
the world because of the architecture. Not only do you

1155
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.360
have all of the beautiful Goudy you have College Trauma,

1156
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:23.119
you have all sorts of amazing architects represented there, and

1157
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:26.440
those Spanish styles from throughout the years, especially that gouty

1158
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.920
style stuff. I'm a huge fan. So Raphael, you are

1159
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.280
privileged to live in one of, in my opinion, the

1160
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.039
most beautiful cities in the world, Barcelona. Thank you so

1161
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:38.639
much for listening to our podcast. Jim, I'm going to

1162
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:39.679
pass it back to you, buddy.

1163
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.800
Thank you so much. Pop. I'm Eric, I know.

1164
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:45.559
Basically the same person.

1165
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:48.400
This is one of the things so I want to

1166
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.840
say I'm not saying you d shout out to Martin Bennett,

1167
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:56.519
who's in Dennison, Texas, about fifteen minutes from Oklahoma border.

1168
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.119
Thank you, Martin. I also want to say hello and

1169
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:03.840
thank you to Tim BERSONI who's in Central New York

1170
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:08.039
thank you for being a fan. And John Holbeck Junior,

1171
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:12.199
who's in Oswego, New York, thank you as well. And

1172
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.320
last but not least, we want to say thank you

1173
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.280
to Paul Shell who's in Medford, Massachusetts. Thank you so

1174
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.840
much guys for being fans. We really appreciate it. We

1175
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.880
couldn't and wouldn't do the show without you, guys, so

1176
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:28.000
thank you so much. As I said earlier, if you'd

1177
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.239
like to be mentioned in a fan shadow, please head

1178
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.239
out to our Facebook page. Book but we'll live on

1179
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.079
and prosper post tell us where you're from. All right, guys,

1180
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.119
Now it's time for our sci fi birthdays, and I

1181
01:01:39.199 --> 01:02:18.239
know we have a theme song for this one.

1182
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:01.440
That was not a Clinton song.

1183
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:05.599
All right, guys, this is part of the show where

1184
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:09.920
we sadly enough remember those members of our sci fi

1185
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.480
family who are no longer with us, and so that

1186
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:13.679
we return to.

1187
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.119
Yeah, Jim, And just before I get started, I will

1188
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:19.559
acknowledge the elephant in the room. The best internet signal

1189
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:22.199
at my house's outdoors, and my neighbor is now mowing,

1190
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.320
So if you hear a mower in the background, just

1191
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:29.840
ignore it and let's carry on. So our first remembrance

1192
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:33.960
this week goes out to, of course, actor Gary Graham.

1193
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:36.239
Gary Graham was the actor who played two roles on

1194
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.519
Star Trek. He played the Ocampan Tannis in the Star

1195
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:43.719
Trek Voyager second season episode Cold Fire, and of perhaps

1196
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:47.360
more famously, played the Vulcan ambassador Solvall in all four

1197
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.920
seasons of Star Trek Enterprise. One of my favorite Vulcans

1198
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:54.599
and absolute asshole throughout the entire series. It was really

1199
01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:58.159
fun to watch. Graham was once considered for the roles

1200
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:02.599
of both Benjamin Cisco and Captain Janeway, and beyond the

1201
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:05.320
Realm of Star Trek, He's probably best known for playing

1202
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:10.280
Detective Matthew Sykes in Alien Nation, one of Jim's favorite shows,

1203
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:13.320
I believe, as well as the spinoff TV movies that

1204
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:17.400
happened kind of in the mid nineties Realm. In twenty fourteen,

1205
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.159
he got to reprise his role as Sovall in the

1206
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:23.760
fan made short film Prelude to Axinar, which of course

1207
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:26.639
co starred a whole bunch of other Star Trek alumni.

1208
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.880
He was also a singer, a songwriter, and a guitarist

1209
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:33.719
in his band The Sons of Kirk, formerly the Gary

1210
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.559
Graham garage Band and the Gary Graham Band, a Star

1211
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.400
Trek themed band. I actually got to meet Gary when

1212
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.719
I was in Los Angeles in twenty twenty for the

1213
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:46.480
Star Trek Bicard premiere. He was very cordial with me

1214
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.599
in a super casual setting. I will say no more,

1215
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.800
but he seemed like a really cool guy. And he

1216
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:54.760
has this quote that I really like. He said, I'm

1217
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.559
one of those actors who's happy even when he's not working.

1218
01:03:57.639 --> 01:03:59.960
I'm not a workaholic by any stretch of the imagine.

1219
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.719
My attitude has always been to have a life first

1220
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:05.639
and then go do the work. And I have to

1221
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:08.199
tell you, Gary, that's kind of how I live my

1222
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:10.400
life too. I work forty forty two hours a week

1223
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.159
and that's about all I work, and I do the

1224
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.159
best with the time that I give it. So, Gary Graham,

1225
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.559
it was really fun to be able to meet you

1226
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.559
back in twenty twenty. Sorry to have lost you back

1227
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.320
in twenty twenty four at the age of seventy three

1228
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:27.000
years old. Happy birthday to Gary Graham. Happy birthday as

1229
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.239
well to Joan Marshall, the actress who played Lieutenant Aril

1230
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:34.760
Shaw in the TOS first season episode Court martial. Marshall

1231
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.159
entered show business when she was hired as a show

1232
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:43.480
girl at Chicago's che Perrie at the age of fourteen

1233
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:46.559
years old and began appearing in Las Vegas two years later.

1234
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:50.559
She made around ten feature films, liking only a few

1235
01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:54.079
of them. In nineteen sixty one, she starred in Homicidal,

1236
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.920
playing two different roles, one male and one female, and

1237
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.440
that act film has sort of developed a cult following

1238
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.320
over the years. I've never seen it, but it sounds

1239
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:07.519
interesting and I'm interested in cult films. We will check

1240
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:10.079
it out. She had a gift for comedy, often appearing

1241
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:12.840
on such television shows as The Jack Benny Program and

1242
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:16.440
The Red Skelton Hour. In the seventies, she collaborated with

1243
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:20.400
her old school friend, the award winning writer Dirk Wayne Summers,

1244
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:24.519
co writing sitcoms, and then, of course, she eventually married

1245
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.199
Hal Ashby. And if you don't know that name, he's

1246
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:30.760
the gentleman associated with the movie Shampoo, and that movie

1247
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:35.559
is actually unfortunately based on real events without her knowledge.

1248
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:39.480
Over the first six months of their marriage, at his insistence,

1249
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:43.159
she sort of related personal experiences from her life, you know,

1250
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:44.960
kind of as a like get to know you activity.

1251
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:46.880
I don't know what led to their marriage, but I

1252
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.840
guess they didn't know each other that well. Then he

1253
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.960
turned those details into the romantic comedy Shampoo, and she

1254
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.639
was not very pleased to have all of her laundry

1255
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:59.320
sort of aired for the public in that movie. But

1256
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.599
that's okay because at the sort towards the end of

1257
01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:05.599
her life, she visited Jamaica, she fell in love with

1258
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:09.480
the island and she eventually moved there and that is

1259
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:11.599
where she spent the rest of her life until nineteen

1260
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.719
ninety two. So Joan Marshall, thank you so much for

1261
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:19.880
your Star Trek contributions and happy birthday to you. Also

1262
01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:23.400
saying happy birthday this week to Alan Scaife, the British

1263
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.280
actor who appeared in two episodes of the Next Generation

1264
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:29.360
and in an episode of Star Trek Voyager. He was

1265
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.880
the first actor who was cast and filmed scenes as

1266
01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:36.400
the kazon Ogla Jabin for a Star Trek Voyagers first

1267
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:40.920
season episode Caretaker, but the role was later recast with

1268
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.280
the actor Gavin o'heerley, who actually overfilmed all of the

1269
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.519
stuff that Alan had already worked on. And it was

1270
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.880
because Alan sort of had a European movie that he

1271
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:54.079
was involved with. It conflicted, and he had to sort

1272
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:57.000
of break his contract with Star Trek to go do

1273
01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:01.599
that instead. He's probably, however, best known for starring as

1274
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:05.679
Doctor Bradley Talmadge on Seven Days, which was a science

1275
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:08.519
fiction show from the late nineties early two thousands. One

1276
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.840
of those kind of upn guilty pleasure shows, if you

1277
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:15.440
know what I mean, really fun to watch, not much

1278
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.159
to it, but lots of campy action and clever plots

1279
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:21.840
and cool gadgets, so I was a fan. He also

1280
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.840
played arch Magis in earthca from two thousand and five,

1281
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:31.119
and starred as Doctor Rubin Zeller in Sequest DSV, which

1282
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.840
I know is a show that comes up occasionally on

1283
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.760
our podcast from way back in the nineteen ninety three Days.

1284
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:39.039
He actually had his own character too. I don't know

1285
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:41.079
if Paul has the Playmates figure or not, but he

1286
01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.320
had his own Playmates figure from nineteen ninety three, So

1287
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:49.760
perhaps somewhere in Paul's archive is that Sequest DSV toy.

1288
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:52.760
So Happy birthday and lots of love going out to

1289
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.480
Alan Scariff, lost just two years ago in twenty twenty four.

1290
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.960
Happy Birthday to Jesse Lawrence Ferguson, the actor who appeared

1291
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.400
as Lieutan in the Next Generation first season episode Code

1292
01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:08.079
of Honor. This deep voice actor broke into show business

1293
01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:10.960
with a guest role on the popular television series Starsky

1294
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:13.599
and Hutch in nineteen seventy nine. I know a lot

1295
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:16.159
of us remember that show. That same year, he landed

1296
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.520
his first film role in The Onion Field, which also

1297
01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:22.119
starred Ronnie Cox. That's actually a pretty darn good movie.

1298
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:25.039
You should check that out. In the nineteen eighties, he

1299
01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:27.399
had lots of guest appearances on shows like The A

1300
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.239
Team in Hill Street Blues. He was also in the

1301
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:34.880
cult classic Prince of Darkness from nineteen eighty seven. But

1302
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:36.600
the one that I really like to cite him for

1303
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:38.840
is he appeared in the nineteen eighty four movie The

1304
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:43.279
Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzi, of course across the Eighth Dimension.

1305
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:46.600
And that's not only because that's an awesome cult classic movie,

1306
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:49.000
but it also starred like nine other Star Trek people.

1307
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.359
So if you're a Star Trek person and you haven't

1308
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:54.359
seen the Adventures of Buckaru Bonzi, you need to see

1309
01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:59.920
that movie. Happy Birthday to Jesse Lawrence Ferguson, Happy birth

1310
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.680
as well to Bernie Terry Casey, who played a Calvin

1311
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:07.199
Hudson in Deep Space nine second season episodes The Machi

1312
01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:09.840
Parts one and Part two. One of my favorite kind

1313
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.800
of one off characters. I love Calvin Hudson. He's such

1314
01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:17.079
a cool, cool character, leader of the Makis. Casey was

1315
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.479
not a Star Trek fan when he was cast as Hudson.

1316
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.279
In a nineteen ninety four interview, he said, I did

1317
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:24.760
the makeis because I wanted to work with Avery Brooks,

1318
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:28.239
whom I admired as an actor. I love that. I'm

1319
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.720
glad you got to work with him, even for two episodes.

1320
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.520
Before becoming an actor, Casey was a track and field

1321
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:38.960
champion and a professional football player. That's right. He played

1322
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.039
for the National Football League San Francisco forty nine Ers

1323
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:44.680
from nineteen sixty one to sixty six, and he played

1324
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:48.520
for the Rams from sixty seven to sixty eight. But

1325
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:52.880
more important than I think his sort of physical prowess

1326
01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:57.000
was his artistic prowess. He was an accomplished painter whose

1327
01:09:57.039 --> 01:10:00.600
work has widely been exhibited, and he was also a

1328
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:04.199
poet with several published books to his name. In fact,

1329
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:07.319
while he was playing pro football, he was profiled by

1330
01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.960
NFL Films, and he was interviewed while painting. He said

1331
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:16.479
that he only played football basically for money, and if

1332
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.680
he could make as much money painting, he wouldn't play

1333
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:25.159
football at all. I love that an actor and a director.

1334
01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.319
You might have seen him in Bill and Ted's excellent

1335
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.520
adventure Never Say Never Again or Revenge of the Nerds.

1336
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:34.199
He was also a member of sag Afra. He worked

1337
01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:37.000
in several positions for this union and was voted to

1338
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:42.319
serve as SAG National Board alternate to the Hollywood Division

1339
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:44.920
Board of Directors, so he was involved in the politics

1340
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.319
of SAG after along the way Bernie Terry Casey, Wow,

1341
01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:52.640
what didn't you do? Buddy? Happy birthday to you. Happy

1342
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:55.680
birthday as well to James Darren. I love this guy.

1343
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.239
He was an actor, director, and singer who played the

1344
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:02.119
holographic lounge singer Vic Fan in the sixth and seven

1345
01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:05.119
seasons of Star Trek Deep Space nine, of course, also

1346
01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:09.359
playing the mirror universe Vic Fontaine in The Emperor's New Cloak.

1347
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:15.159
James William Erkolani was his original name. He was from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,

1348
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:17.279
and then moved to New York City to fulfill his

1349
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.600
dream of becoming a singer and an actor. How American

1350
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:23.880
is that. After a short time taking acting classes, he

1351
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.640
met Columbia Pictures talent agent Joy Selznick, who gave him

1352
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:31.479
a seven year contract with Columbia in nineteen fifty five.

1353
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.479
He then moved to Hollywood, California, and stood in front

1354
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:38.600
of a camera for nineteen Columbia Films. The following year,

1355
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:42.319
he took his stage name James Darren, named after the

1356
01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:46.640
Kaiser Darren sports car. There you Go. He named himself

1357
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:49.560
after a sports car. Several movies throughout the nineteen fifties,

1358
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:52.319
including Gidget from nineteen fifty nine. I know you've seen

1359
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:54.960
that movie. If you haven't, another classic, you should see it.

1360
01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.359
He portrayed the leading role of doctor Anthony Newman in

1361
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:02.880
the Time Tunnel and Paul were Here. He would extol

1362
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:05.560
the virtues of that science fiction series from nineteen sixty

1363
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:09.279
six to nineteen sixty seven. After that was canceled, he

1364
01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:13.319
producer Irwin Allen cast Darren in the role of the

1365
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.399
science fiction pilot The Man from the Twenty fifth Century,

1366
01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:20.479
which also featured John Crawford. However, that project was not

1367
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:24.039
picked up as a series, but he kept busy throughout

1368
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:26.760
the seventies, eighties, and nineties, all along the way, So James Darren,

1369
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:31.000
great singer, great actor. Thank you Vic for all the

1370
01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:35.039
good times and a happy birth idio saying happy birthday

1371
01:12:35.039 --> 01:12:37.319
this week to her to Ware, the actress who played

1372
01:12:37.439 --> 01:12:41.000
Yvette Picard, Yes, that Picard in The Next Journation first

1373
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:44.000
season episode where No One Has Gone Before. She was

1374
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:47.239
a guitarist and of folk singer in the Washington, DC area,

1375
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.600
and moved to New York City and began acting in

1376
01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:54.439
the early nineteen thirties. Actually made her Broadway debut in

1377
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:58.880
nineteen thirty five in a play called Let Freedom Ring.

1378
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.199
She was I love this story about her. She was

1379
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:08.119
actually blacklisted by Hollywood during the McCarthy era for taking

1380
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:10.960
the Fifth Amendment and refusing to testify before the House

1381
01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:15.439
on American Activities Committee, which would lead to financial hardship

1382
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.920
and the loss of her and her husband's home. But

1383
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.760
sad times, but man, I love the fact that she

1384
01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:26.199
kind of stood on principle and was like, no, I'm

1385
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:29.600
not going to bow to you. You freaking my mouth.

1386
01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:34.359
Where is perhaps best known for her part as Rosie

1387
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:38.079
in Cocoon from nineteen eighty five. She also had a

1388
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:42.279
role in the movie twenty ten from nineteen eighty four

1389
01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:48.479
as Jesse Bowman, the astronaut David Bowman's mother. But I

1390
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:50.720
love the stuff that she did. Kind of away from

1391
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:53.479
the screen to Gear and where her and her husband

1392
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:58.720
co founded the Wheel Gear Theatricum Botanicum on their Topanga

1393
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.920
Canyon property down there in California, which is a unique

1394
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:06.279
open air theater located in the Topagia Canyon, California area,

1395
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:09.560
tucked into a natural mountain sanctuary. It's well known for

1396
01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:13.800
producing plays by William Shakespeare and hosting folk music concerts.

1397
01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:17.119
She was a veteran actress and eventually published her own

1398
01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:21.479
memoir entitled Fantastic Journey My Life with Wheel Gear in

1399
01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:25.359
two thousand. Herd Aware, we really appreciate your contributions. I

1400
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:27.600
can't believe it's been more than twenty years since we

1401
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.039
lost you. But you were eighty eight, so you had

1402
01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:33.319
a pretty darn good life. Happy birthday to you, herd A.

1403
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:36.840
And last but noon least we honor this week Herbert

1404
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:40.399
Barry Morse. And you're saying when we see on Star Trek,

1405
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:43.520
Well he wasn't. But we're going beyond here. That's right.

1406
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:47.359
He's the British Canadian actor, writer, and director best known

1407
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:51.680
for playing Lieutenant Philip Garrard, the principal antagonist of The

1408
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:55.199
Fugitive from nineteen sixty three to nineteen sixty seven. In fact,

1409
01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.199
his portrayal was so convincing on this show that he

1410
01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:03.680
would eventually be accosted in public for the actions of

1411
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.960
his character, and he was once called the most hated

1412
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:10.159
man in America based on the character that he played

1413
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:14.079
on television. His biographer, Robert E. Wood reported that he

1414
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:19.199
would humorously deflect comments by feigning ignorance about his character

1415
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:23.000
and revert to his native British accent, because, of course

1416
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:25.520
on The Fugitive he had the American accent, and most

1417
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:27.880
people didn't know that he was naturally a brit So

1418
01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:32.079
I love that. Now we've got planes going overhead. There

1419
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:35.560
you go, Doctor Victor. He was also known for playing

1420
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:40.720
doctor Victor Bergmann on Jerry and Sylvia Anderson's show Space

1421
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:42.880
nineteen ninety nine, which I of course liked to talk

1422
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:44.680
about because I just finished up watching all the way

1423
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.119
through from nineteen seventy five through nineteen seventy seven. He

1424
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:52.680
played the antagonist in that first season, but his character

1425
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:56.000
was dropped for the second season because he and his

1426
01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:59.600
agent couldn't come to an agreement with the studio on salary. Essentially,

1427
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.720
they want to offer him a much lower salary for

1428
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.239
season two and he didn't want to take it, so

1429
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:08.000
we get him for one season, which was awesome. He

1430
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.079
was a great sort of mustache twirling villain in that

1431
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:16.319
first season. His performing career spanned seven decades and had

1432
01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:19.199
hundreds of roles across film, television, stage and radio. At

1433
01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:22.079
various times, he worked in the UK, Canada, and the

1434
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.640
United States. He was a steady fixture on BBC and

1435
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:29.279
CBC for many years and was the artistic director of

1436
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:32.560
the Shaw Festival, which is a pretty prestigious role. He

1437
01:16:32.720 --> 01:16:37.520
long patronized a number of charitable organizations as well, including

1438
01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:40.920
the Toronto based Performing Arts Lodges of Canada, the Royal

1439
01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:46.079
Theatrical Fund, the London Shakespeare Workout, Prison Project Actors Fund

1440
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:50.479
of Canada, the Samaritans Book Pals, and the Parkinson's Disease

1441
01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:53.520
Treatment and Research. Because he had lost his wife to

1442
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:58.239
Parkinson's and there's some question about I believe he may

1443
01:16:58.239 --> 01:16:59.520
have had some of that at the end there too,

1444
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:03.560
happy birthday to a wonderful man Star Trek adjacent through

1445
01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:07.279
his various science fiction roles. But happy birthday to Barry

1446
01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.840
Morse and that, folks does it for our remember this

1447
01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:11.439
this week?

1448
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:12.119
You got?

1449
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:16.000
Oh do I?

1450
01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:16.560
Oh?

1451
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:22.119
Sorry? Perhaps a couple were added after I did my notes.

1452
01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:25.680
Oh yes, a couple. Okay, so here we owe all right.

1453
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:29.840
We've also got actor Robert Lansing, who of course played

1454
01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:34.359
Gary Seven in the original series second season episode Assignment Earth.

1455
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:38.319
I love that the comic books later then kind of

1456
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:40.840
continued the story of this episode and we get a

1457
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.199
little bit more Gary seven in the future. This episode

1458
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.079
was actually supposed to serve as a pilot for a

1459
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:48.960
possible television series that would have started Lancing as Gary

1460
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:52.640
Seven's character, but unfortunately it was not picked up. I

1461
01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:54.640
personally think that would have been an awesome sort of

1462
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:59.520
confluence of Star Trek and like Mission Impossible, right, perfect

1463
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.439
for that, but we didn't, unfortunately get it. But we

1464
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.399
got some Robert Lansing in our lives, which was awesome.

1465
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:08.039
Thank you, Robert for your Star Trek contributions and for

1466
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:12.159
playing one of the coolest secret agents of the time,

1467
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:18.439
me whiny future in Star Trek that we have last,

1468
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:20.880
and finally, last but not least on my list, because

1469
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:23.159
I missed a couple. Here we have Happy birthday to

1470
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:26.920
John Abbott, the English actor who worked steadily from the

1471
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:31.199
thirties to the eighties, massing dozens of television guest appearances

1472
01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:35.920
and movie roles, almost one hundred and fifty in total.

1473
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:36.760
That's right.

1474
01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:41.279
He was particularly active in nineteen sixties television, with guest

1475
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:44.840
appearances on many shows of that era. But we of

1476
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:48.319
course know him as playing Albourne in ts's first season

1477
01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:52.800
episode Aaron of Mercy. John Abbott, thank you so much

1478
01:18:52.840 --> 01:18:56.439
for having such a cool character in Star Trek and

1479
01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:58.560
for portraying that role in such a very cool way.

1480
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:01.439
I love it. And I also remember him, of course

1481
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:04.800
from one of my favorite shows, The Monsters, back in

1482
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:06.760
the day. I'm such a big Monsters fan.

1483
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:08.800
Yeah.

1484
01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:14.119
Anyway, happy birthday, Happy birthday there so to John Abbott.

1485
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:18.680
So that now finally does it for my list. Thanks

1486
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:22.239
guys for keeping me honest. I know that sometimes I

1487
01:19:22.279 --> 01:19:23.520
missed up, but that's right here we are.

1488
01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:28.279
Yeah, yes, yes I do.

1489
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:30.680
I was gonna say her to where so she was

1490
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.239
married to will Gear And isn't there their daughter is

1491
01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:38.199
Ellen Gear who was doctor Marr. Yes, so there's that

1492
01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:42.039
start on the with the Crystalline entity. Yeah on TG

1493
01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:44.920
so there's that connection too, I know.

1494
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:45.520
Wild.

1495
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:49.640
So my first happy birthday goes out to Kim Rhodes

1496
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:55.760
who is from Portland, Oregon, and she was of course. Yeah.

1497
01:19:55.880 --> 01:20:00.279
She appeared on Voyagers ensign Lindsay Ballard aka the Alli

1498
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:04.680
Jet Layah in six season episode Ashes to Ashes. That's

1499
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:08.560
one of my favorites because that's where Harry Kim had

1500
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:11.000
a well, Harry Kim had a crush on an everybody,

1501
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:15.680
but that was one of them. She also it wasn't

1502
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:20.880
she really was. And she also provided her voice to

1503
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:24.840
the character Ulana Oxala in the video game Star Trek

1504
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:29.800
Away Team Next. Oh yeah, here's a happy birthday going.

1505
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:31.199
Out to Liam Neeson.

1506
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:37.279
He is from Ballymena, Northern Ireland, and he portrayed Qui

1507
01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:42.319
Gone Jin. Oh yes, he did, sorry in Star Wars

1508
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:48.159
episode one, The Phantom Menace, ros Alghoul in Batman Begins.

1509
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:52.600
But he's best known as ex government operative Brian Mills

1510
01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:56.239
in Taken Taken two and Taken in three? Is that

1511
01:20:56.279 --> 01:21:02.039
where his daughter gets kidnapped and he's very.

1512
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.359
Yes, yes, And I was going to say best known.

1513
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:06.600
I mean, you know, up against movies like SHO I.

1514
01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:10.560
Know, right, I know, not sure.

1515
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:14.039
And he's he can be reminacing on the phone, you know,

1516
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:14.880
I don't know.

1517
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:17.279
That.

1518
01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:20.680
I imagine he can be. And I mean, yeah, I don't.

1519
01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:26.239
I don't disagree with anything else you said about him, probably.

1520
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:31.640
Yeah, yeah, lots of lots of things. Next, Happy birthday

1521
01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:34.319
to one of my favorite actors, Michael J.

1522
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:35.079
Fox.

1523
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:40.439
He's a celebrated Canadian American actor, author, and activist who

1524
01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:44.399
rose to global stardom in the nineteen eighties. Of course,

1525
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:50.159
he was Martin McFly in in the Black Sorry I'm

1526
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:54.479
brain dead. Sorry, it's a day Back to the Future trilogy,

1527
01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:59.119
and of course Alex P. Keaton on the sitcom Family Ties,

1528
01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.520
which he was brilliant in, and that's where he met

1529
01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:09.600
his wife, Tracy. Just went on in my head anyway,

1530
01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:12.239
she was on there and they've been married ever since.

1531
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:14.439
Thank you, thank you.

1532
01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:14.840
Yes.

1533
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:20.000
But his biggest thing that because he has Parkinson's but

1534
01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:27.039
he is a very influential advocate for medical research. So

1535
01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:31.680
that's really taking something that you know, was a horrible

1536
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.880
thing to happen to him. But he is making the

1537
01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:40.199
absolute best of it, trying to get other people help. Next,

1538
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:45.039
Happy Birthday goes out to Jessica Goana. She's an actress

1539
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:49.399
who portrayed an a con colonist in The Voyager sixth

1540
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:54.760
season episode Memorial. She also played the young Bellona Torres

1541
01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:59.760
in the seventh season episode Lineage. Oh here's a big one.

1542
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.960
We were just talking about him. Happy Birthday to Paul Giamatti,

1543
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:11.199
who chewed the scenery like only Paul Giamatti ken as

1544
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:18.159
nos Braka in Starfleet Academy first season episodes Kids These Days, Come,

1545
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:24.119
Let's Away and Rubin Khan. He said, my favorite series

1546
01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:25.920
is d S nine, which.

1547
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:26.760
I really really love.

1548
01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.800
Me to Paul, the one with the Wales. That's my

1549
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:35.439
favorite movie. Again, me too, Paul. It's such a great movie,

1550
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:38.359
and Raff of Kahan is a great one. But I

1551
01:23:38.479 --> 01:23:40.520
do love The Voyage Home.

1552
01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:44.560
Sorry, Uncle Jim. No no other.

1553
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:49.960
Star Trek movies. Next to Happy Birthday to Anna Tour.

1554
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:55.039
She's an Australian actress actress who gained international recognition for

1555
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:58.640
her role as Olivia Dunham in a sci fi series Fringe.

1556
01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:04.520
Perform earned her a record breaking four consecutive Saturn Awards

1557
01:24:04.520 --> 01:24:08.720
WOW for Best Actress on Television. Torv is also the

1558
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:11.720
voice and model for the character Noriko in the video

1559
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:13.880
game Heavenly Sword.

1560
01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:19.399
I have to tell you that Fringe is one of

1561
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:22.800
my favorite guilty pleasure shows. I don't know if you

1562
01:24:22.840 --> 01:24:26.720
guys need to check it out, I guess, but yeah,

1563
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:29.520
it is just weird enough and it's got I mean

1564
01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:32.680
you can tell just by that photo, right, kind of

1565
01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:35.239
like what genre it belongs to. It's kind of got that,

1566
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:38.720
like law and order, but yet it's science fiction and

1567
01:24:38.760 --> 01:24:40.760
it's so it's a little bit campy and a little

1568
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:43.239
bit unbelievable, which is what makes it totally awesome.

1569
01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:49.000
I mean, looking at that guy drinking, he's like, Okay.

1570
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:55.159
Yeah, that guy's he's like the lead. Yeah, yeah, he's yep.

1571
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:56.399
Check it out.

1572
01:24:56.600 --> 01:24:57.279
I've never seen it.

1573
01:24:57.520 --> 01:24:59.039
Yeah, it's a good show.

1574
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:00.600
All right.

1575
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:03.800
Thanks to Happy Birthday goes out to Carl heinz Urban

1576
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:08.680
is a New Zealand actor who's appeared as Ilmer in

1577
01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:12.720
two films of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Baco

1578
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:17.119
in two films of the Riddick film series, Johnny Cage

1579
01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:21.600
in Mortal Kombat two, doctor Leonard Bones McCoy in the

1580
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:26.640
Star Trek reboot film series, Carill in The Born Supremacy,

1581
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:33.000
John Reaper Grim in Doom, Judge Dredd in Dread, Scourge

1582
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:39.239
in Thorg. Gregna Rock starred in the sci fi series

1583
01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:46.159
Almost Human, most recently as Billy Butcher in The Boys. Oh,

1584
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:51.359
Happy birthday to Natalie Portman, who was born Natalie Hirschlag.

1585
01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:58.159
Portrayed podme Amidala in the Star Wars prequel trilogy Don't

1586
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:02.880
Fall in Love with Anakins Jane.

1587
01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.920
Foster, No.

1588
01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:10.920
Right, Oh my gosh, that was yeah anyway, Jane Foster

1589
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:16.119
Mighty Thor in Thor, Thor in the Dark World and

1590
01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:21.000
Thor Love and Thunder and Evye in The Four Vendetta.

1591
01:26:22.359 --> 01:26:25.800
But one of my favorite roles was that she got

1592
01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:30.920
an Academy Award in the twenty ten film Black Swan.

1593
01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:32.359
That was intense.

1594
01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:34.920
Last, but not.

1595
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:38.640
Least, Happy birthday to Adrian barbo Is, the actress who

1596
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:43.760
played Senator Creetok in DS nine's seven season episode inter

1597
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:46.119
Arma Enim silent.

1598
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:51.439
Lyg like just thank you, ladies.

1599
01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:56.560
I don't know, because became known for her work in

1600
01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:00.000
horror films and science fiction films during their early nineth

1601
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.960
teen eighties, she was in John Carpenter's The Fog, which

1602
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.199
marked her film debut. She also had a role in

1603
01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:13.319
Carpenter's Escape from New York. Horror genre's actress, sorry, horror

1604
01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:17.039
genre actress, with a lead role in Swamp Thing. She

1605
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:20.439
was also in a really creepy episode of The X Files,

1606
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:23.800
as I recall, but I know her, and I meant

1607
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:25.880
to look up because I can't remember the name of

1608
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:30.640
the character. But she started out in the series of

1609
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:37.720
sitcom Maud as Maud's daughter. So all right, so now

1610
01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:42.520
the flaming birthday candle gets hurled over to uncled him.

1611
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:58.880
Yeah, and she can.

1612
01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:04.840
And you know what, she can dance. I saw her

1613
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:09.319
somewhere she was dancing, and she's incredible, so very very talented.

1614
01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:29.319
Huh oh uh huh h h.

1615
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:34.560
M hmm.

1616
01:28:45.079 --> 01:29:47.399
Dept of course no.

1617
01:29:42.039 --> 01:30:10.560
Wolf cheese. Well yes, who.

1618
01:30:19.840 --> 01:31:05.640
H yeah, h.

1619
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:24.760
Hh hh.

1620
01:31:42.319 --> 01:32:00.479
Hh h m hm.

1621
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:19.479
Mm hmm nice yah h huhm m.

1622
01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:48.760
Mm hmm. Yeah.

1623
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:51.680
Despite his crappy father.

1624
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:58.760
It's just you know, kids, Klingons have a weird like

1625
01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:14.199
they do escape all right, well, yeah, I.

1626
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.760
Mean I personally think Alexander is one of the like

1627
01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:20.159
one of the characters who like they could have developed

1628
01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:21.960
just a little bit more, because he does have a

1629
01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:28.079
really really interesting backstory, right, and they kind of started

1630
01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:29.960
to explore it a little bit, and then they just

1631
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:31.920
didn't really do enough with it. I would have loved

1632
01:33:31.960 --> 01:33:34.479
to have seen a you know, a three or four

1633
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:36.800
episode arc where they're sort of dealing with this or

1634
01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:39.319
or a few things spread over a couple of seasons

1635
01:33:39.359 --> 01:33:45.920
where they're sort of dealing with those. Yeah, hmm, yeah,

1636
01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:51.319
that was a good episode.

1637
01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:07.720
You know, that's a tough one.

1638
01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:15.479
Mm hmm.

1639
01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:19.039
Yeah.

1640
01:34:24.239 --> 01:34:26.600
I mean this is kind of well, it's it's what

1641
01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:28.680
Worf does, right, I mean, he did the same thing

1642
01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:29.319
with his brother.

1643
01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:33.079
He the the.

1644
01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:37.199
You you can never what you can never do is

1645
01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:42.359
you can never judge Wharf against clingon ideals. You have

1646
01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:47.039
to judge him against kind of the confluence of Starfleet

1647
01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.960
or like human you know, and cling on ideals. And

1648
01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:52.880
he does live in both worlds. And I think that

1649
01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:55.960
that's why his character is so compelling, because he's kind

1650
01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:59.039
of screw up, right, and Warf is like classically one

1651
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:02.279
of the worst dads ever on Star Trek, right, Like

1652
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:06.079
he's he's just a terrible, terrible father and he can't

1653
01:35:06.199 --> 01:35:08.319
just seem to get it right, but he keeps trying,

1654
01:35:08.439 --> 01:35:11.319
and he keeps looking for different ways. Yeah. Yeah, so

1655
01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:13.920
you can tell he's invested in his family and his

1656
01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:16.600
son and you know Kayler when she comes around and

1657
01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:20.439
like that kind of stuff. But uh, yeah, yeah, poor Alexander.

1658
01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:24.199
Actually, well, jed z jed Zea had a I can't

1659
01:35:24.279 --> 01:35:27.760
remember that. If it was, I can't remember it was

1660
01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:30.399
in if it was in you Were Cordially Invited or

1661
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:32.960
which one. But she had a great line about him that,

1662
01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:36.800
you know, he's a Klingon that was raised by humans,

1663
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:40.520
but he was like so into the whole. I think

1664
01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:43.760
it was during their their you know, so wanting to

1665
01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:47.159
be a traditional Klingon when they got married, and she

1666
01:35:47.319 --> 01:35:51.079
thought that was kind of you know, ironic, I guess, but.

1667
01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:54.600
Yeah, yeah, he didn't know kind of where to put

1668
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:58.399
his foot right, Like he he lived in both worlds,

1669
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:02.359
but he felt uncomfortable being a representative of both worlds.

1670
01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:07.920
I don't know, i'd be great work to get Michael

1671
01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:11.479
Dorn and just have like a whole wow, I would.

1672
01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:17.119
Just be I think if he had no Well, Wolf's

1673
01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:20.039
character was thrown back and forth between different things he

1674
01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:23.039
really had no control over a lot of stuff, and

1675
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:27.279
then all of a sudden, when Alexander came along, his responsibilities,

1676
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:29.119
all of a sudden, he went guy high and he

1677
01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:30.439
was like, I didn't know how to deal with it.

1678
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.560
So it's like that's I guess we call bad dad.

1679
01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:36.479
I guess, But I mean technically he technically he was

1680
01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:40.640
learning so and as he loaned, you know, things happened.

1681
01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:43.319
But he never got better. He only got worse.

1682
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:47.000
Because he made that decision in the in the show,

1683
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:49.680
he made that decision that he didn't want Alexander he

1684
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:50.840
sent him initially.

1685
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:54.199
I think he sho did the best that he could

1686
01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:57.399
I guess, or what he thought he could do well.

1687
01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:00.920
Because like Kaylar, that was part her fault because she

1688
01:37:01.039 --> 01:37:04.840
did not want Alexander to be raised in the Klingon

1689
01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:08.359
world because she was part She wasn't full Klingon either,

1690
01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:11.560
so it was a whole there's a whole dynamic there.

1691
01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:11.960
Yeah.

1692
01:37:14.039 --> 01:37:16.359
So does that make Alexander a quarter human?

1693
01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:18.359
I don't know.

1694
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:21.600
Happened?

1695
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:21.960
Yeah?

1696
01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:27.880
No, no, because well no, I don't know Chris Warf

1697
01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:28.960
was raised by human.

1698
01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:29.319
I don't know.

1699
01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:31.319
He's for schlub.

1700
01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:36.079
Yeah, probably a quarter human.

1701
01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:52.479
Mm hmmm.

1702
01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:59.039
It just so happened that you chose this, Okay, I

1703
01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:06.279
love it. A strange force has entered the galaxy. A

1704
01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:08.640
future of mankind is at stake.

1705
01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:14.159
It could only mean one thing. What's happened. I do

1706
01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:16.399
not think you realize the gravity of your situation.

1707
01:38:18.039 --> 01:38:19.960
The vacation is over.

1708
01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:28.119
No, the crew of the starship Enterprise is taking adventure

1709
01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:40.119
where it has never gone before. From the mind of

1710
01:38:40.199 --> 01:38:41.720
a madman has.

1711
01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:46.319
The force has taken control about this full ahead through

1712
01:38:46.399 --> 01:38:49.359
the center of the galaxy. You know we'll never make

1713
01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:52.079
it through the Great Barrier to the Final Frontier.

1714
01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:54.199
Fascinating.

1715
01:38:55.319 --> 01:39:00.199
How often have you done this? Actually it's my first attempt. Yes,

1716
01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:04.039
you never see amaze.

1717
01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:13.279
This is the oldest track of all speed far track five,

1718
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:15.439
the Final Frontier.

1719
01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:18.560
This is got amazing. I nothing amazing about it.

1720
01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.359
I know this ship like the back of my hand.

1721
01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:59.920
All right, mm hm of course, of course, of course.

1722
01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.720
And Jim, you know, since it's your you know this movie,

1723
01:40:04.159 --> 01:40:10.119
uh introduces the concept of the Great Barrier, right, Like,

1724
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:13.239
we hadn't really heard about the Great Barrier before this movie.

1725
01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:17.079
And so since this is your favorite Star Trek movie,

1726
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:20.560
I felt it was only fair to have one trivia

1727
01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:25.520
question loaded and ready for you that you know doesn't

1728
01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:28.000
have anything to do with sideboch or anything like that.

1729
01:40:28.319 --> 01:40:33.159
But Jim, do you know what the difference between the

1730
01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:37.640
galactic barrier and the Great Barrier are in Star Trek?

1731
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:42.479
Uh?

1732
01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:56.319
Oh you are just switch them and you've totally got

1733
01:40:56.399 --> 01:40:58.439
it right. The Galactic barrier is the one that wraps

1734
01:40:58.479 --> 01:41:00.479
around the edge. The Great Barrier here is the one

1735
01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:02.720
that's at the center of the galaxy.

1736
01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:03.359
Yeah.

1737
01:41:03.640 --> 01:41:04.640
Yeah, so there you go.

1738
01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.119
We we're m hm.

1739
01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:47.680
Mm hmmm, we do and here it goes. It sounds

1740
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:48.840
like Galicia quest.

1741
01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:03.159
Chaders say, is what? That's right? William Shantner says that

1742
01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:07.119
he is taking care of business at ninety five. The

1743
01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:13.159
least of all I want to do is die. That's right. Well,

1744
01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:17.079
I mean I feel like that's isn't that true for

1745
01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:20.279
all of us? But yes, William Shantner has no plans

1746
01:42:20.319 --> 01:42:23.159
to slow down as he's getting older. The ninety five

1747
01:42:23.239 --> 01:42:25.199
year old actor spoke about how he is able to

1748
01:42:25.279 --> 01:42:28.199
keep going when so many others his age have already

1749
01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:31.600
slowed down decades ago. He said, that's why they're old.

1750
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:35.760
Shatner's law is speed up, do more things and forget

1751
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:38.960
the pain. Take a pill. If it hurts. You get older,

1752
01:42:39.079 --> 01:42:41.960
you hurt more. Two things. One is a weightlifter who

1753
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.319
told me when I lift three four hundred pounds, it hurts.

1754
01:42:45.560 --> 01:42:48.319
I've learned, he said, to make the hurt my friend.

1755
01:42:49.039 --> 01:42:53.399
Welcome friend, the pain is here. Welcome. Shatner, who is

1756
01:42:53.439 --> 01:42:57.239
preparing for his upcoming live stage show, The Universe Is Absurd,

1757
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.880
went on to say that his advice old people would

1758
01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:05.760
be to befriend and embrace the pain. The Star Trek

1759
01:43:05.880 --> 01:43:08.680
actor then added that his second tip for those who

1760
01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.520
are aging is to never stop moving, explaining that if

1761
01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:14.119
you stop moving, all you've got is the hurt. Ugh

1762
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.680
Amen Brother. He explained that one of his passions is

1763
01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:21.720
riding horses and competing in an equestrian event called raining,

1764
01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:25.239
at which he described as very physical. He said, the

1765
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:28.039
older you get, the difficulty is really getting on the horse.

1766
01:43:28.479 --> 01:43:30.279
You have a mounting block and you try to lift

1767
01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:32.439
your leg up over it. He said, if I would

1768
01:43:32.479 --> 01:43:35.279
have stopped that half my life would disappear. So I

1769
01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:39.399
don't stop. I just go slower. Even after suffering an

1770
01:43:39.439 --> 01:43:41.520
injury to his shoulder during a fall off his horse,

1771
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:45.319
Shatner continues to ride and will be hosting the annual

1772
01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:49.239
William Shatner's Hollywood Charity Horse Show later this month. His

1773
01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:53.000
busy schedule also includes his upcoming live show, The Universe's

1774
01:43:53.479 --> 01:43:57.239
The Universe Is Absurd, which is a live, unscripted stage

1775
01:43:57.239 --> 01:44:01.479
show with astrophysicist Neil Degrass Tyson that will explore cosmic

1776
01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:06.600
themes through banter and storytelling that sounds lovely. The show

1777
01:44:06.680 --> 01:44:09.760
is scheduled for May nineteenth and twentieth at this Saban

1778
01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:14.199
Theater in Beverly Hills. Tyson and Shattner first connected when

1779
01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:17.520
recording an audiobook, which eventually led to twenty hours of

1780
01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:20.840
conversation between the two of them. Shatner said, I had

1781
01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:22.840
to spend two days, ten hours a day talking to

1782
01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:25.640
a wonderful man who has become a good friend of mine. Now,

1783
01:44:25.720 --> 01:44:28.720
he said, those twenty hours have given us a foothold

1784
01:44:28.840 --> 01:44:32.239
into conversation, and that's what we'll have on stage. But

1785
01:44:32.399 --> 01:44:34.720
in order for it to have energy, I'll have to

1786
01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:39.479
disagree with him on many points, if not all. I

1787
01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:43.680
love that the universe is this way, I disagree. The

1788
01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.479
worst thing that can happen to the show in Shantner's

1789
01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:49.800
opinion is that the audience walks out, we walk on,

1790
01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:51.960
and they give up and leave. In terms of what's

1791
01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:54.520
next for him, the Boston legal star explained that he

1792
01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:57.439
doesn't have a bucket list, but wants to continue doing

1793
01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:00.399
the things he treasure treasures, such as spending time with

1794
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:04.000
his dogs, riding horses with his wife, and visiting his

1795
01:45:04.199 --> 01:45:07.960
favorite coffee shops. He said, I'm busy, and I'm vital,

1796
01:45:08.199 --> 01:45:10.319
and I'm riding horses, and I'm taking care of business.

1797
01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:12.359
And i just sold a horse. He said, I did

1798
01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:15.520
a job on Friday and Saturday. I'm busy doing concrete,

1799
01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:18.720
valuable things. I don't want to go anywhere. The least

1800
01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:23.479
of all I want to do is die. Wow, Bill,

1801
01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:27.439
you just like continue to have the most awesome sections

1802
01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.000
of our news segment here. I love it that you

1803
01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:33.199
are ninety five years old, brother, and you're just clocking

1804
01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:35.600
on like nothing's going on. So that's fantastic.

1805
01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:36.720
I love it.

1806
01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:54.800
M all right. I mean that's actually true. That's exactly what.

1807
01:45:55.720 --> 01:45:57.319
Because of horses.

1808
01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:00.399
Yeah, I'm not in brace sing it.

1809
01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:04.000
It sucks, man, I'm sitting there right now.

1810
01:46:04.119 --> 01:46:05.079
My Yeah.

1811
01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:08.800
You know, when you become a have a first name

1812
01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:12.000
basis with the people at the er in the town

1813
01:46:12.079 --> 01:46:13.279
where your horse farm is.

1814
01:46:13.399 --> 01:46:20.600
Yeah, you know, yeah, hmm, yeah, he.

1815
01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:27.439
Can have it, take it, take it, and I will

1816
01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:29.960
barrel racing. I used to do barrel racing.

1817
01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:32.239
And pole bending, so I will.

1818
01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:32.640
Yeah.

1819
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:35.920
That was yeah, that was something I never fell off,

1820
01:46:36.039 --> 01:46:37.720
So that was a good thing. It was all the

1821
01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:41.680
other stuff I did that like hurt me so anyway,

1822
01:46:42.159 --> 01:47:03.840
but good for him. In ninety five, yep, right, con.

1823
01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:08.680
The Musical is coming to start trek Las Vegas twenty

1824
01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:11.760
twenty six and a community theater near you.

1825
01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:16.399
Three years ago, Con the Musical a parody.

1826
01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:22.760
Srectacular, debating off Broadway at The Player's Theater, Nework to

1827
01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:28.039
great reviews. Since then, producer Brent Black has released the

1828
01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:31.239
cast album has now begun licensing the show for use

1829
01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:35.520
in community theaters, high schools, and colleges, and anyone wanting

1830
01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:40.479
to truck up their local local musical theater scenes. He's

1831
01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:44.760
also bringing Han to a number of truck conventions this summer.

1832
01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:49.960
Han the Musical is heading to some conventions this summer.

1833
01:47:50.039 --> 01:47:55.159
I'm absolutely pumped to have been asked. It really feels

1834
01:47:55.359 --> 01:47:58.960
the show's leveled up said Black about the convention events.

1835
01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:03.840
First up, we trek Long Island June twelfth and.

1836
01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:11.199
What's that sitting, Jim, That's hot Pog hop Hoog, New York.

1837
01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:14.520
There will be a short performance along with the Q

1838
01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:17.359
and a session with a handful of former off Broadway

1839
01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:21.479
cast members, and later in June's starting the twenty fifth

1840
01:48:21.640 --> 01:48:24.920
con we'll have a quick appearance in the booth at

1841
01:48:24.960 --> 01:48:29.199
the Trek Fest at Riverside, Iowa, which prides this up

1842
01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:31.439
in being the future bird place of James T.

1843
01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:31.920
Kirk.

1844
01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:35.520
In August, the musical is heading the Las Vegas, Las

1845
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:37.359
Vegas for Star Trek Las Vegas.

1846
01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:39.279
The team has been given a.

1847
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:46.159
Panel slot on the Inaugura's Trespert stage. Perfeman for the musical,

1848
01:48:48.039 --> 01:48:50.800
Brett Black and a few veteran cast members will be

1849
01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:54.039
doing what he describes as a short mini concert of

1850
01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:56.199
songs from the show along with the Q and A.

1851
01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:01.880
The Star Trek Las Vegas brewers will include Laura Wittenberger,

1852
01:49:02.439 --> 01:49:09.319
who has played Sabag and multiple multiple productions of Cheyenne Schiaporn,

1853
01:49:09.800 --> 01:49:18.760
uh Fira Kulstit, who played Admiral Kirk off Broadway STLV

1854
01:49:19.359 --> 01:49:23.920
Khan perform and panel will be Thursday, August sixth. Musical

1855
01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:27.199
team will also be running a booth all weekend at

1856
01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:30.319
the Star Trek Las Vegas Banding Rooms. To be one

1857
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:33.279
of those shows, if you don't see see it live,

1858
01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:37.359
you simply don't believe what you read about it, black

1859
01:49:37.439 --> 01:49:40.960
and used like you think. Of course, a Trekky would

1860
01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:44.119
say that there's something magical to show that. If you

1861
01:49:44.159 --> 01:49:47.119
don't see it, it's hard to believe there's more than

1862
01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:49.199
just a cute little star trek parody.

1863
01:49:51.800 --> 01:49:52.479
And too Bad.

1864
01:49:52.520 --> 01:49:56.079
I will be on this, Yeah, I wish, I wish

1865
01:49:56.159 --> 01:49:58.600
we there would be. I mean, I'm glad to hear

1866
01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:01.720
that they're licensing this to local theaters, because I swear

1867
01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:03.760
to God, if this comes to a local community theater

1868
01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:07.239
around me, I'm there every single night. It looks amazing.

1869
01:50:07.439 --> 01:50:11.000
I'm I'm looking at them now and just looking at

1870
01:50:11.039 --> 01:50:14.119
the main character. So Data, I mean they've got Data

1871
01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:19.439
and Kirk and Savik and Bones, McCoy and Scotty and

1872
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:24.600
O'Hara and doctor Carol, Marcus and Sulu and Chekhov. So

1873
01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:27.720
they're playing multiple roles. Yeah, we got a community theater.

1874
01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:30.279
I wonder iful I could get them to do this,

1875
01:50:31.399 --> 01:50:33.399
that would be great, Okay, cool.

1876
01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:38.720
I mean it has a sorry I was just going

1877
01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:43.319
to say it has a slight air of a local

1878
01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:46.439
theater troupe that we have here. We have a local

1879
01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:49.479
theater troup called the USS Improvise and they perform at

1880
01:50:49.479 --> 01:50:52.439
a place called the Funhouse Lounge. And it's basically like

1881
01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:56.239
Star Trek improv. So you go for a night and

1882
01:50:56.359 --> 01:50:58.680
you have a table and you know, they do all

1883
01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:01.119
the regular improv stuff, but you have your data as

1884
01:51:01.159 --> 01:51:03.159
you have your Rikers, you have your Troy, you know,

1885
01:51:03.239 --> 01:51:06.720
have your crushers, you know, and many people play multiple

1886
01:51:06.840 --> 01:51:09.119
roles throughout the thing just by switching out a silly

1887
01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:11.159
wig or whatever. I mean, it's so amazing.

1888
01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:12.119
Yeah, so this.

1889
01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:18.520
Feels like that, Yes, yeah, yeah, totally.

1890
01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:26.600
It's a it's a it's a track long Island. Tomorrow, Jim,

1891
01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:29.199
you can go run up run up State New York

1892
01:51:29.239 --> 01:51:29.840
and go see it.

1893
01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:39.520
You're right there. Yeah, m hm mm hmm. Oh wow

1894
01:51:40.239 --> 01:51:42.119
yeah mm hmm.

1895
01:51:44.479 --> 01:51:46.159
She was what a sweetheart.

1896
01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:49.560
Yes, yeah, it's fine.

1897
01:51:52.439 --> 01:51:58.600
H yeah, if we know to me, yeah we got

1898
01:51:58.640 --> 01:52:00.239
you mm hmmm.

1899
01:52:08.600 --> 01:52:09.000
Mm hm.

1900
01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:14.279
M h.

1901
01:52:17.079 --> 01:52:17.399
M hm.

1902
01:52:18.119 --> 01:52:22.159
Yes, thank you for turning what was an absolute crap

1903
01:52:22.319 --> 01:52:27.399
day into a fun evening. So as always, you know,

1904
01:52:28.359 --> 01:52:28.960
mm hmm.

1905
01:52:33.720 --> 01:52:35.680
I won't yeah we we uh.

1906
01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:38.239
Oh, you're out for this fabulous yes.

1907
01:52:44.960 --> 01:52:59.880
Oh mhm sarcastic sarcastic Balkan salute.

1908
01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:07.199
And then I like to say this, yeah, doing this sircast.

1909
01:53:08.359 --> 01:53:12.680
Like flapping, I'm emulating Mariner.

1910
01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:13.239
Yeah.

1911
01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:22.359
H absolutely that was a super fun show.

1912
01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:40.479
Yeah, goodbye bye a long and prosper prospering along.

1913
01:53:42.760 --> 01:53:43.439
Let's fly