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James Holden, Tweaky, John conigainst Yankee.
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Talk about the series.
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Well, good evening, Trekkies and treks around the Globe. It's Thursday,
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June eleventh, twenty twenty six. Welcome to episode six and
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eighty nine of Track Talk and the Beyond. I'm your
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most excellent host, Uncle Jim. How you guys doing tonight?
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We have a really great show planned for you. But
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before we go too far, I would like to go
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around and induce my incredible trek experts. And we're going
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to start out with the Via down in Virginia.
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I am a Hell's front porch outside, but it's great
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to be inside.
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Well, you know, I gotta tell you it's it's pushing
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ninety here in Vermont, which is unheard of for up here,
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so we're hot up here too. But we're going to
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get through because we have a great show plan and
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we're going to swing out to Las Vegas and say
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hello to Charles. How you doing tonight, child?
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I'm doing good.
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It's a sunny day, and tell me about one hundred
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But it's a dry heat. But it's a dry heat, so.
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It's not terrible. We're going to swing over to Portland
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and we're going to sing hello to Eric. How are
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you doing tonight?
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Ere, I'm doing quite well. As a person who likes
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temperatures approximately between sixty eight and seventy two degrees, I
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will tell you that it is blazing hot in Portland
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at I don't know, like eighty.
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That's kind of how I feel about. Wow, we're we're
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all burning up here. Yeah. And also employment when we
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have a very all miracle worker, David, How you doing tonight? David?
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Put it good. I gots what we're all trying to
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say it we're all really hot.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's that time of the year. Yep. So
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potatoes of our show. Joining us live tonight, we have
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City Lee. She's right here on the screen with us
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right now. She's a Canadian actress, model, and digital creator
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known for her work in film and television. She has
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appeared in the Netflix series Beer Street, crom Queen, Wong
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and Winchester, and the TV movie My Dreams of You.
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She's also contributed behind the scenes and the camera and
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electrical departments. But we all know and love her from
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star Fleet Academy to Wark College's Favorite romulent Zo. She
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appeared in the first season episode Data Test, Vitus Reflex
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and Serious Acclamation. Mil Welcome to the podcast, Celia.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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It's been great contribute to the weather commentary up here
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in Toronto, can It is has been very sunny and warm,
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and I think we're in for a reckoning because now
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it is humid and I think rain for.
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The rest of the week. So well, we're going to
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pay for that. Good weather. It's true.
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So I wanted to start off by asking you a question.
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I asked everybody we have on the show, and what
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did you think about our intro? Did you like it?
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So fun and so varied and diverse, and I you know,
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like you diversify your interest.
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but mostly Star Trek. And we love Starfred Academy. By
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the way, I'm to have somebody from Starfleet Academy on
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with us. We're gonna have some fun. So I guess
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I'm want to start off by asking you if you
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were a Star Trek fan before you landed the role
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on Starfrey.
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enjoyed like I was a diletante.
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lot of it shoots here in Toronto, but I hadn't
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really gotten into it when I got cast.
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Did you know that you were going to be a
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Romulin when they cast you or did you find out later?
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it's all like hush hush, top secret. There's a code
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name for what the show is. Nobody's an alien in
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the audition sides. So when I was auditioning for this,
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it was like Jock from a rival college starts.
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A prank war spoiler alert series.
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from my agent being like, hey, you booked it. By
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the way, they wanted to take a mold of your
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face and you're getting prosthetics, and I went.
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And I didn't even know what kind of villain I
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was until later, until I actually got there and they
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were like, yeah.
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unromulin history to bring that role to life or did
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they pretty much did you go into a cold course?
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I mean, for you know, sixty years strong misfranchises and
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such passionate, dedicated fan it's daunting stepping into something like this,
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to do your best, and part of doing your best
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on the show is to look into the lore. Because
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however much I might as an actors research, there are
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hundreds of thousands of people who know a lot more
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about it in the fan base.
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So I had my homework cut out for me.
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Did you keep a set of ears?
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Is at nor?
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Deny? That answer?
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Okay? Fair is fair. We could take that. So I
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wanted to ask you about working with that with that
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incredible cast, because they all seem to really gel well together.
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Starfree Academy.
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at the expos at the events, it's all in real life.
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I mean, such a talented, lovely, warm, amazing set of people.
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Well I could ever wish for as a cast.
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And how about Holly Hunter? What was it like working
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with her?
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For being legend?
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A legend.
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Lendened? Oh my gosh, she's so small.
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I don't know the exact statistics of how tall she is,
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but she is tiny, and yet she commands a room.
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It was incredible watching her work.
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There was one day where she was doing her speech
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on the balcony I think in episode two, and all
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I had to do that day was, you know, stand
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at attention in the crowd, And so I got to
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spend twelve hours on set just watching her work.
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Her magic and it was amazing.
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I noticed that you work behind the camera as well.
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I'm not sure exactly what the job is, but do
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the camera.
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I think their apples and oranges really do enjoy both,
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and I am so grateful to have both in my life.
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They see different parts of me as a human.
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I mean I have so I work behind the scenes
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as a focus pullar, which for those who aren't familiar,
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it's kind of the technical head of the camera department.
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around it and keeping that the camera department running smoothly.
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the acting side is the narrative and the storytelling and
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the playful and I really couldn't imagine not doing both.
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I mean, maybe one day there will be a time
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where one demands more than the other, but it's a
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privilege to work in this industry. That's what I joined
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to do, was just to be part of something greater
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than myself and make these incredible worlds and universes come
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to life. And doing both has just further educated me
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in this beautiful art.
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Excellent, and I think I'm going to turn the microphone
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over to V because that's that's my ten minutes and
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now we're gonna shoot it over to V. So V
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take it a worry.
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Well to you. I was just in awe reading your
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IMDb and everything that you do and behind the camera.
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As when I went to when I went to school
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to cop one hundred years ago as a theater major,
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I did not listen to the advisors who said, do
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everything you know because you be employable if you're not,
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you know, acting on the stage. It's set designer, you
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can be a costumer, you can do this, that and
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the other. And I did not listen to it. And
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that's the But I'm just in awe that you do
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everything that you'd But I noticed also that you are
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part of what got me into the acting. I mean
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many things other than it as well, But I grew
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up doing funny voices, anything from you know, Charles Dickens
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book or or can you British? To Gollum and Lord
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of the Rings. I mean I was always doing something
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growing up.
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So yeah, I just I'm not too great at Do
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you have a favorite?
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because well now I'm thinking about it and it's getting
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in my hand.
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It but the rest of it sounded really good.
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Yeah, that's true.
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And you know what, it's my favorite thing to sing
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apple bottom.
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Jeans boots with a fur. The whole club looking at
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her surely got low low low lo lo looyd loid
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in that accent. That's my little party tricks.
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I love it.
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That's awesome.
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Well, so I was.
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I went to see Conri back in March. It's able
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to I had met some Star Trek actors actually from
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DS nine, so a non visitor who was Kieren, and
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Terry Ferrell who was jed Zia, and then I got
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to Shimmerman who was Quirk and DS nine. You know,
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back in the day they were the I hate to
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say redhead of Star Trek, but they got a lot
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of help, but they still came out head. Eventually people
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both warmed up to them. But that was really before
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the time of internet stuff. And I was actually talked
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with an Arman because I was and I know you're
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aware of it too, and I'm sorry that you've had
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to deal with it, but just the online negativity Starfleet Academy,
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which I'm not a younger obviously, I'm not like twenty
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one years old, so I stilled for the fact that
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it was Star Trek and you had people like Holly
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Hunt just like oh, I would just absolutely, you know,
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just stand there and you know, drool looking at so
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fantastic and also, uh, what's it?
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Of course yes, I know I.
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Said before Dead Fair, Yeah, and truly so.
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But I was talking with him and I say, what
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behind because there was I saw so much. There were
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so many people that were just being so ageous about
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the older actors and then the bombing and everything like that,
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And that was right before we got the horrible news.
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And I'm sure if somebody had said, hey, guess what's
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what happened to Kenney, I think the the the con
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wouldn't just in Fury so.
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But I mean, do you think that. I mean, I
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think star Fleet Academy is wonderful and I can't wait
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for us.
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You don't get.
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What do you think it's just because you're in what
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we're dealing here in America? And yeah, it's just it's
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and and I apologize because that's I just feel like
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there's so much of what's in our politics that sort
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of negatively impacted. Do you all feel like that or
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something that it just happened to be you know, it
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hit people the wrong or I mean, what's what's behind me?
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No, I hear you.
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It was definitely really saddening news. I think all of
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us really loved the show and loved everything it stood
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for and the youth it brought to it to the universe.
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I mean, I can only we can all only speculate,
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and obviously I don't speak for anybody.
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I have no idea. I'm an actor from the show.
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I'm the powers that be that that make those big decisions,
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and if I were, I wouldn't you know, there's of course,
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but you know, I think you know, it's hard to
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stay away from all the internet vitual and I think
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that's a big part of it is that we live
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in this age where you have these you know, very
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polarized parts of the Internet. And they would have hoped
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that the Star Trek audience that I know a large
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portion most of them did. I would have hoped that
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they understood the you know, that things are different. But
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that's what Star Trek always has been. Star Trek has
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been about change and hope for the future and innovation
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and exploration. And I'm sad to see that there's a
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contingent that is fighting against that.
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Well, I will watch it, uh in reruns forever and
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ever because I just love it so much. And I's
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out in serious acclamation mill oh my gosh, you every
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everybody just says it. Yeah, wasn't it just like, oh
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just that was just ripped your heart right out with
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even though it's a fictional character. I just you just
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grow to love all I at least I do all
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these wonderful even though they're still brand new to us.
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But you you all just had me though.
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We thank you so much. I'm so glad to hear that.
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And yeah, I wish I wish we had more time
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for people, so for more people to fall in love
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with everybody on the show and to let the show
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spread its wings.
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Yeah, it looks like David's next on the list, so
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we'll have David takeover. We lost Jim temporarily, but I'm
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sure he'll be back in a minute.
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Yeah.
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Well, I just wanted to say welcome to a podcast,
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and I hope you're having fun.
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So much fun.
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Cool.
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So my question to you is, so Star Trek has
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by generations of fans, what does it mean to you
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to now be a part of that legacy?
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An easy question, totally. I don't know, it's insane.
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To grasp that is, honestly, like, just be on the scope.
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I just have to be like, I'm so grateful to
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have gotten to play a little part in this incredible
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last universe.
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I had a blast doing it, and I hope people
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people liked it.
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Yeah.
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No, I mean it was pretty fun for the amount
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of episodes that you were in there. But yeah, I
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mean I can understand it be kind of like exciting,
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and yeah.
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It was exciting, and it was also exciting knowing the
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lore of Star Trek, of you know, the reunification of Navarre,
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of being a manifestation of that of the Romulents and
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the Vulcans making peace and working together for better or.
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For ours apart for like generations with thousands of viewers
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and so finally coming together and cool. I have got
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one more question for you, and I think I'll be
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passionate on the my friend derekare so, which piece of
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Star Trek technology do you with existed in real life?
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Replicators?
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Yeah?
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I mean I have a three D printer, so.
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There.
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Yeah cool. Yeah, repetators I think would probably be mine
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as well.
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Yeah, well what would not to turn it around? But hey,
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what would you replicate?
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What? What's your life? What's what's the dream?
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Legos?
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I don't know?
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All right? Hell yeah, like yuess it.
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Is cool, it's awesome. Well, I guess I'll send us
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over the ek.
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What would you replicate, Cecilia?
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Would I replicate on? Is it something food related?
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You know?
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I yeah, like one of those like six hundred dollars
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an ounce steaks or something.
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Or yeah, exactly? Come on? You know what? My for
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you page.
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On Facebook specifically has been I know Facebook, but has.
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Been seafood boiled book. Thanks, Guilty pleasure, filty pleasure? What
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can I say? And hey, if I want to go.
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Through to Brune, well replicate of seafood boil every day.
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I'm sure I'll get sick of it.
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Real quick.
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But while while it lasts, that would be a thing
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of gloria.
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You know what I believe as a person who whose
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desert island food is sushi, I know that there is
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no limit to the amount of sushi that I could
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possibly eat. So it's not hard for me to imagine
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anybody else that has a thing that they could just
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eat infinitely and be totally okay with. Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, obviously,
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thank you for being here. It's so fun to talk
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to you. You know, it's cool to have and I
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to have such a kind of like fresh face in
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the Star Trek community on our podcast. We've had lots
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and lots of actors kind of like throughout history and
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like classic people and that sort of stuff, and I
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think you're probably our newest, you know, actor, and so
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that's that's really cool to have you here. You know,
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you already answered kind of Jim's question about whether you
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were a Star Trek fan previously or not. But as
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you were doing your research and and you knew that
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you were this not not Romulin really but Navarren, Right,
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what were the character traits that you know, in your
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limited scenes that you were really trying to like bring
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forth and like communicate with your character totally.
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I wanted because yes, I understood that the Navarre had reunited,
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but I also wanted to portray Romulin and Vulcan they.
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There are still separate species even though they were reunited.
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Having that contrast is really important of just paying homage
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the history of Romulans. And so I really went down
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the Romulin rabbit hole, and you.
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Know, found out about their key.
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Character traits, like they're cunning, and they're the way they
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were like you want to be zen, We're going to
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do the opposite of that, and so their their pride
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and secrecy. And then I was like, oh, but this
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is how this character is written. And they seem very
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open and brash and and loud, but I feel like
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there's also part of that in the in the Romulin,
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like in the nature. And then I got deeper and
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I found the Kawat Milat, the Order of Warrior Nuns
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and their philosophy of the way of absolute candor, and
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I was like, oh my god, this is absolutely this.
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This makes sense. Okay, So that's where you were coming from.
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With their Yes, So that was my inspiration.
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Love that. I have to tell you that that that,
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you know, order of nuns and kind of that whole
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philosophy of absolute candor. If human beings could live that way,
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I truly believe that we would be an entirely different race.
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Like it would be transformative, right if we could just
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throw away the secrets and just be honest with one another.
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But yeah, that's fantastic. I love that that was your
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kind of courtrait that you were going for there. Well,
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I thought you did a fantastic job with the character.
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We all had a really good time watching her. I'm
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gonna move just a little bit away from the show, though,
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and talk about some of the other stuff that I
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read about you. I read that you're a musician, and
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I am also a musician, and I'm curious to just
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learn more.
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Sure, Well, I grew up as a classical pianist and violinist.
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For a long time.
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I concertized, I did the exams, I did the recitals,
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the competitions and all that. I taught for a long time,
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for almost a decade actually, And yeah, it's a really
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important part of my life and hopefully one day I'll
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get to use it on set.
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What kind of musician are you?
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Well, I sort of started out as a piano player.
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I took a bunch of piano player or piano lesson
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excuse me, you know, as I was growing up. I've
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also sung my entire life, so I still sing in
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a local a cappella choir here in Portland. And then
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I'm also a drummer and a couple of different local bands,
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so I do, I do some different things. And I
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was just thinking about, you know, we're going to do later.
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One of the things we do on the show is
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we always remember people from the Star Trek community who
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have birthdays that are close to this date, you know,
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and sort of just talk about them and stuff. And
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Gary Graham is one of the guys we're going to
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talk about today. And I don't know if you know
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anything about him, but he was also a musician and
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had a Star Trek themed band. And I got me thinking,
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you know, girl, if you're looking for something else to
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do and you need to add one more thing to
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your palette, a Star Trek themed you know, chamber orchestra
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thing or like little, I mean, that sounds pretty cool
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to me.
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So that does sound pretty cool, all right.
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On the list on the list, on the list, Yeah,
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well they are you left out the most important thing?
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You're saying? Our thing?
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Saw I did? I Yeah, yeah, I do pretty much.
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If it's a if it's a song on the show,
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there's a pretty good chance I sang it.
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Well, well done, very catch you.
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I really appreciate that. Okay, So I guess over and
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above music. Then I often like to ask other, you know, people,
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like what else they like to do in their free time?
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Is there other stuff that you like to do? Do
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you read books? Do you take walks?
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Read books? For sure? Big sci fi lover? Just uh,
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just read.
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Artemis by Andy Weir? Yes, great book which was so fun.
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Yes, you know we we actually had him. We talked
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about his movie recently a couple of weeks ago. Did
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you see that?
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Of course I did?
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What'd you think?
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Oh?
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God, so good?
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Right?
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Loved it? And I had read I had actually read
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the book.
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I want to say to you years prior, which I
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think was the perfect distance, because I've made the mistake
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of doing them too close to each other, whether it's book,
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and then show or show the book, and I feel
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like one money is the other, and then you start
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comparing them a lot and being like, oh, but they
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didn't do this or they didn't do that, And it
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was quite.
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A faithful adaptation to the book. But I'm sure if I.
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Had just read the book, i'd be like, but they didn't,
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and I really liked that bit. So I think it
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was just the perfect thing of like I read it
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two years ago.
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I loved it. I cried, I laughed, it was so fun.
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And then seeing the movie come out and the.
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Incomparable performances of you know, the Puppeteer and Ryan Goodness,
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what is his name? Yeah, Ryan Gosling and the Puppeteer
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also yeah, yeah, I should know this because phenomenal work.
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I mean, the whole team just just incredible movie.
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James are tease, Yes, yeah, oh yes, So I I
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do read and I side quest right now, I'm teaching
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myself how to figure scape.
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That's the new was thing on the roster.
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Yeah.
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We like, we pick things up and we put them
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down in this household.
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Yeah, I mean, absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's I
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when I do uh, you know, career fairs. I'm an
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architect by profession, and so when I do career fairs
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for like middle schools and stuff, I talk about being
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a renaissance person, right because that's kind of what architects are.
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We don't we're not really a master of anything, but
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we know a lot about a whole bunch of stuff.
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And that's what you're saying, right, Live life, learn all
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life life stuff.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, okay, just a couple other well, actually, just one
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other quick question. And this is kind of one of
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those if this is too like you know in your head,
501
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that's okay. But in vulnerability or invisibility.
502
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My first thought.
503
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Wasn't visibility because of its clandestine, clandestine capabilities, But I
504
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think in vulnerability would just be a lot more fun. Yeah,
505
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:58.559
but not for like a superhero kind of perspective, though,
506
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that would be cool.
507
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More.
508
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No, I'm starting to reach the age where everything hurts
509
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and I'd like that to stop.
510
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Oh that's funny. All right, Well, thank you so much
511
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for chatting with me. That was really super fun. Let's51200:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.880
see who hasn't gone yet? Has Charles gone yet? Charles,51300:25:20.279 --> 00:25:24.359
I haven't gone, Thank you so much. Since Paul's not here,51400:25:24.440 --> 00:25:25.759
I get to the gabooz.51500:25:25.920 --> 00:25:26.720
Okay, so you.51600:25:26.759 --> 00:25:28.400
Rock up a little bit on that. There we go.51700:25:28.519 --> 00:25:28.839
Okay.51800:25:28.960 --> 00:25:33.680
I know lately a lot of streaming series, especially there's51900:25:33.720 --> 00:25:36.799
always been a single person that's kind of the lead52000:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.400
in the show. Everybody comes in, and that's a person's52100:25:40.440 --> 00:25:42.720
going to greet everybody. That's the person that kind of52200:25:42.799 --> 00:25:49.039
unites everybody to a real core group. Who was the52300:25:49.079 --> 00:25:52.680
person really was the core person in Academy?52400:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.160
I mean, I think that role danced around a lot.52500:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.720
But names that come to mind Kareem and Crese alliteration,52600:26:01.200 --> 00:26:05.160
both incredibly warm, generous, open souls that I love so52700:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.960
dearly and I hope for nothing but the best fit52800:26:08.000 --> 00:26:08.440
them great.52900:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.599
And then once we get a couple of shows in,53000:26:12.039 --> 00:26:16.720
we're hoping for Blooper reeled. Who's the comedian on the show.53100:26:16.920 --> 00:26:20.440
I mean, Crease immediately comes to mind. She's the funniest53200:26:20.759 --> 00:26:21.640
fricking person.53300:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.480
But I'll also say George.53400:26:24.400 --> 00:26:29.200
Has an incredibly dry English wit that just catches you53500:26:29.599 --> 00:26:30.200
off guard.53600:26:30.440 --> 00:26:30.680
Man.53700:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.640
This is That's that stories like that that you need53800:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.440
many season just to sit there and to see what53900:26:37.559 --> 00:26:39.680
a cast really can do with each other.54000:26:39.880 --> 00:26:40.920
They really just they.54100:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.079
Haven't hit the war college as much as I think54200:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.880
they should have in season one. Let's hope we see54300:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.240
it a little more in season two. But definitely what.54400:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.079
An interesting combination to not.54500:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.880
We're normally used to Starfleet being in there.54600:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.119
All of a sudden we got the war colleges in54700:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.759
there too, and it's like, okay, we've got a competing54800:26:58.920 --> 00:27:04.559
college in the an entirely different, entirely Pacific characters, and54900:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.720
it just I want to see how that grows.55000:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.200
Yeah, really think War College biased for sure?55100:27:10.559 --> 00:27:13.480
When I think War College is cool, it big.55200:27:13.839 --> 00:27:15.559
Of course you do well.55300:27:15.599 --> 00:27:16.640
And the thing is they.55400:27:16.759 --> 00:27:23.440
They were War College well and they were there. Yeah,55500:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.640
and you guys were there before star reformed.55600:27:27.039 --> 00:27:28.680
So we've been here.55700:27:28.839 --> 00:27:32.000
We've been busting our asses protecting the universe.55800:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.599
Okay, yeah, yeah, they talked.55900:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.559
I don't want to I don't want to butt in56000:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.920
on Charles's interview, but did they talk about, like, as56100:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.759
an actor, the way that you should treat the War56200:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.440
College differently from Starfleet at all? Or was that just56300:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.680
a like was that part of the character, or like56400:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.440
the group of people that you were with you were56500:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.799
supposed to be like, oh, star you know, War College56600:27:51.839 --> 00:27:53.359
is like this and Starfleet ammys like this.56700:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.920
Not explicitly, I mean a lot of it was in56800:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.640
the script as well as you know, passing comments from56900:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.960
showwrinners and all that kind of stuff. But it did57000:28:01.240 --> 00:28:04.440
really feel like war College, at least what I created57100:28:04.440 --> 00:28:06.960
for myself is like war College has been there since57200:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.079
the Burn, has been steadfast and had to be strong57300:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.359
against the trials and tribulations of the Burn, which was57400:28:14.400 --> 00:28:19.160
a terrible time for the whole galaxy. And and so57500:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.680
that opinion of these you know, there are standards and57600:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.640
their rules and their protocols and there et cetera, et57700:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.640
cetera to uphold, and then Starfleet comes in with their57800:28:29.680 --> 00:28:34.480
loosey goosey behavior. I can you know, I can absolutely57900:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.480
empathize with my War College buddies being like whoa, who the.58000:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.200
Heck are you? What are you guys doing? You know?58100:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.279
And actually this is a Starfleet example like Holly Hunter58200:28:44.319 --> 00:28:48.680
who sits in her chair sideways and yes, absolutely.58300:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.960
Which is so different. And I think it's just a thawing.58400:28:51.240 --> 00:28:52.599
It's a it's a it's a.58500:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.920
Thaw from a time where maybe that kind of laxity58600:28:57.039 --> 00:29:03.480
and joy and playfullss was is not really allowed, and58700:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.759
I think, you know, it just is a changing of58800:29:06.759 --> 00:29:07.240
the times.58900:29:07.400 --> 00:29:08.599
Yes, definitely.59000:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.920
Okay, I think one final question for me to get59100:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.359
you thinking a little bit, Okay, if you had a59200:29:17.480 --> 00:29:22.480
dream role, movie stage, something you can film.59300:29:22.720 --> 00:29:23.920
What role would it be?59400:29:24.160 --> 00:29:25.599
What you You could.59500:29:25.400 --> 00:29:27.480
Be acting in it, you could be doing the camera59600:29:27.519 --> 00:29:28.119
work in it.59700:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.279
What's that dream role you're looking for?59800:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.039
You wish you could do? Dream role?59900:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.039
Medieval action, fantasy, anything in that genre. I grew up60000:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.160
mass a fan of the Lord of the Rings.60100:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.759
Could totally see you doing that. Yeah, that would be awesome.60200:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.880
I could totally see it.60300:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.720
Thank you. It's a story I tell a bunch, but60400:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.680
just because it early shows you manifest things in your life.60500:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.559
But I remember being a kid obsessed with the elves60600:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.200
in Lord of the Rings to the point where I60700:29:57.240 --> 00:30:01.160
would take clothespins and I would pin the tip my ears.60800:30:02.079 --> 00:30:09.079
That they would grow into Elvier's. But now on Star60900:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.839
Food Academy, my dream came true.61000:30:12.039 --> 00:30:20.079
It did. That's why she couldn't answer that question. Yeah,61100:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.400
I love it. That is so Like that just warms61200:30:25.440 --> 00:30:28.359
my heart. Man, that you got like your dream by61300:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.680
joining this franchise that you really didn't even know that61400:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.400
much about, but like understood the gravity obviously, Like once61500:30:33.440 --> 00:30:34.559
you got it, you were like holy.61600:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.160
Shit, right, Like yes, I was screaming.61700:30:37.240 --> 00:30:43.599
I was like, yeah, all right, well I'll pass it61800:30:43.680 --> 00:30:46.240
back to Uncle Jim. Thank you very much.61900:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.640
You know, so, have you had a chance to go62000:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.839
back and watch see the Car and and look at62100:30:53.880 --> 00:31:00.559
Elmore and and how how he developed academy? Yeah, first62200:31:00.599 --> 00:31:05.039
romulent And did you look at his work and try62300:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.599
to build on that or did you just kind of62400:31:07.960 --> 00:31:08.640
do your own thing?62500:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.200
It did my own thing. I watched some Picard and62600:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.279
I wanted to see what had come before.62700:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.599
But I do think that I had the opportunity with62800:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.839
this character because of the circumstances were into in terms62900:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.240
of the reunification of Nimar and like and in.63000:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.680
Terms of post burn blah blah blah.63100:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.640
I think I really had an opportunity to do my63200:31:28.680 --> 00:31:32.039
own thing with this character. So I mean, I hope63300:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.440
I paid a little bit of homage to the people63400:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.240
who came before, but really I wanted to be my own.63500:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.720
No, what about the death of Audia. We never got63600:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.400
to see any real reaction to that, particularly from your character,63700:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.839
because you guys were like brother and sister. Well you63800:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.960
were very close on the show. It came off that63900:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.559
way anyways, and then he died, but we never got64000:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.400
to see your character after that. How do you think,64100:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.880
how do you think your character reacted to the death64200:31:59.000 --> 00:31:59.960
of him devastate.64300:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.480
I am also very sad we did not get to64400:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.920
see Zola's reaction on the show, because yeah, they were64500:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.640
tied at the hit and so iron ie I like64600:32:09.720 --> 00:32:11.759
to call us when we were on set. I mean,64700:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.599
I'm also really close with that actor in real life.64800:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.200
We've done two shows together now, and he's just a64900:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.519
gem of a human. But I remember, you know, the65000:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.119
late night You're delirious at three in the morning, and65100:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.039
he would just come over and he would like poke65200:32:24.200 --> 00:32:33.000
my prosthetic as his little like stress ball. It's quick,65300:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.759
but no, like, yeah, he's you know in real life65400:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.200
and on the show such close, such a close relationship.65500:32:43.319 --> 00:32:44.920
So yeah, I'm sad we didn't get to see it.65600:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.079
And I think there's a lot of there's already so much.65700:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.920
She's so protective. I think that's I guess, a core65800:32:51.680 --> 00:32:52.519
trait of her character.65900:32:52.599 --> 00:32:53.319
She's protective.66000:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.759
That's why she's a deck to the Starfleet Academy is66100:32:56.799 --> 00:33:00.519
because she just she feels strongly about about up holding66200:33:00.880 --> 00:33:06.079
like strength and and and these values that that war college.66300:33:05.799 --> 00:33:06.680
Is all about.66400:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.240
She's doing it because she loves so much and so66500:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.279
the fact that she wasn't there with her friends. I66600:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.440
think she she'll feel she would have felt so guilty,66700:33:17.160 --> 00:33:20.200
and I think she would have crashed out so hard,66800:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.079
and I think she would have gone really deep in herself.66900:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.640
Yeah, yeah, I think I think I think you're right.67000:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.440
So what all of the ten episodes that we've had67100:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.640
the pleasure of enjoying, which was your favorite one? It67200:33:31.680 --> 00:33:33.519
doesn't have to be one that you were in if67300:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.559
it's a different one, although the ones you were in67400:33:35.599 --> 00:33:36.400
were also.67500:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.440
Thank you, I mean you mentioned earlier, but episode five67600:33:41.920 --> 00:33:43.000
series Acclimation Mill.67700:33:43.160 --> 00:33:49.400
You know, Carrie played that character. She's she's a wonder67800:33:49.440 --> 00:33:50.000
to watch.67900:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.920
She's so impulsive and free and joyful with her work,68000:33:54.079 --> 00:33:57.559
and she's a wonderful human to boot But seeing her68100:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.960
journey of growing, you know, this new the newest you68200:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.400
could ever be in this world, discovering herself and just68300:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.400
and having so much responsibility placed upon her.68400:34:07.720 --> 00:34:09.880
I think it was just done so beautifully.68500:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.360
I know a lot of the fans really appreciated, you know,68600:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.800
the callbacks to the to the history and yeah, just68700:34:17.800 --> 00:34:18.920
just such a fun episode.68800:34:19.000 --> 00:34:20.199
I mean, Currise punched me.68900:34:20.199 --> 00:34:24.880
In the face, like, well, I'm Jim I'm gonna butt69000:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.480
in one more time because I had. What I'm wondering69100:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.719
is Cecily now that you you're part of Star Trek69200:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.920
Law and that sort of stuff, like if somebody was69300:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.239
to say to you, what are the values that Star69400:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.000
Trek embodies, what would you say?69500:34:38.719 --> 00:34:49.599
Hope, Optimism, inclusivity, diversity, Yeah, strike, yeah.69600:34:49.639 --> 00:34:51.920
We we often talk on the show about about the69700:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.679
diversity aspect and the fact that you know, we are69800:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.639
all big fans of modern Star Trek because we recognize69900:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.079
what it has done, who it has brought to the table,70000:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.079
who it has given opportunities to, whose voices are now70100:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.639
heard that didn't used to be heard. And you know,70200:35:07.679 --> 00:35:11.159
Starfleet Academy to me just feels like a continuation of70300:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.920
what Discovery started, you know, as a as a new70400:35:14.960 --> 00:35:19.719
paradigm in Star Trek, and we just so much appreciate,70500:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.840
I think, as a as podcast hosts, the courage to70600:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.119
be able to shift away from sort of what what70700:35:27.119 --> 00:35:32.280
what once was to something that you know, seeks to do.70800:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.400
What Gene always wanted to do was was bring everybody70900:35:35.440 --> 00:35:36.199
in right.71000:35:36.519 --> 00:35:37.239
You're so right.71100:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.519
I mean, Star Trek has always stood for pioneering, pioneering71200:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.679
that kind of stuff of diversity and inclusivity.71300:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.840
I mean, first international.71400:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.039
Kiss on screen Star Trek, if you went all the71500:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.320
way back then, and I think, you know, that's I71600:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.400
think that's what shall we say, A certain contingent of71700:35:53.400 --> 00:35:58.519
Star Trek people have forgotten in that that Starfleet stands71800:35:59.400 --> 00:36:03.320
for change and for giving voice to the people who71900:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.400
haven't had a seat at the table for so long.72000:36:05.960 --> 00:36:07.880
And come on, it's zooming out.72100:36:07.960 --> 00:36:13.000
It's a show that's show things that don't exist still out.72200:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.679
So I mean, you know, are you.72300:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.440
Really going to be like, oh no, playing on is72400:36:18.480 --> 00:36:19.280
wearing a skirt?72500:36:19.599 --> 00:36:25.039
Dad couldn't exist in this world where people are blue,72600:36:26.719 --> 00:36:26.920
you know.72700:36:29.320 --> 00:36:30.400
I think we're on the sage.72800:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.800
I got to say it. I love jad En myself.72900:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.519
I think I think that he's I fell in love73000:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.480
with him right away, and the more they developed him,73100:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.559
the more I admired him. In fact, I tracked him73200:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.159
down on Instagram and tried to get him on the73300:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.079
podcast because I would love to talk with him about73400:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.159
developing that incredible character. You know, And when I talked73500:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.639
to him, his voice doesn't sound anything like it does73600:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.400
on the show. So I wanted to tell us about73700:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.760
him as a claimant as he is as imposing as73800:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.119
he appears to be, or how does he get his73900:37:08.199 --> 00:37:09.719
voice to sound that way?74000:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.039
We wish I could tell you it's a feat. I74100:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.519
don't know. I know he got some training and he74200:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.960
really had to work on it because it is such74300:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.559
a different register from his natural speaking voice. But he74400:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.519
was a truper man. I mean, excuse me to talk74500:37:23.559 --> 00:37:27.320
about a leader on set. I mean that man was74600:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.199
there early as hell.74700:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.920
I think he had one of the longest prosthetic times74800:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.119
on the show. He was always there so late he74900:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.840
had he had his voice change. He puts so much75000:37:37.039 --> 00:37:41.719
work into it, and I can only just commend him75100:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.519
to the moon and back for his performance.75200:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.880
I wanted to ask you about a couple others. Did75300:37:46.880 --> 00:37:48.599
you get a chance were you on set it all75400:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.559
when Mary Wiseman was on, No.75500:37:51.559 --> 00:37:58.880
I wasn't about missed a lot of people, most a75600:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.000
lot of people on this line unfortunately.75700:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.119
Well how about taking a tar all?75800:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.199
Yes, yeah, So tell us a little bit about her.75900:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.960
I just I love she's actually right now, she's in Albany,76000:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.119
New York doing a stand up comedy skit at the76100:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.679
Egg which I would have loved to go to I76200:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.719
have a friend that's there who's going to report back76300:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.320
on it. But I love her dead pan humor. I76400:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.480
love the way she commands the scene. What what is76500:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.920
it like working around her? Like does she track you all?76600:38:27.079 --> 00:38:27.960
It's so funny.76700:38:28.079 --> 00:38:32.000
But also that dead pan humor, it it's it's there76800:38:32.320 --> 00:38:33.719
the whole time, and it's scary.76900:38:33.880 --> 00:38:38.480
Actually it's quite intimidating because you're like, I don't know77000:38:38.519 --> 00:38:45.519
how I'm a big fan, Are you serious?77100:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.400
What's going on here? Totally?77200:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.440
And the way she would deliver deliver things, it would77300:38:50.519 --> 00:38:55.760
just cash you out guard and your yeah, just uh yeah,77400:38:56.039 --> 00:38:56.559
So I want.77500:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.599
To work up yeah, real quick.77600:38:59.639 --> 00:39:06.119
And she's say how absolutely adorable Tig and geper together77700:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.280
when they were they were just because as a mama77800:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.880
bear that I just was like, oh my god, I77900:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.159
just cannot because they are just so adorable and I78000:39:14.239 --> 00:39:15.039
just wanted.78100:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.519
To So, yeah, that was because Gina, she has to be.78200:39:19.880 --> 00:39:24.800
Well riot, absolutely boisterous energy for sure.78300:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.480
Oh. I also wanted to ask you about working We've78400:39:27.599 --> 00:39:32.400
heard about how humongous the sets were. They have unfortunately78500:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.199
all been torn down now, which is a scene. But78600:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.159
what was it like working on these huge, huge, sets78700:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.159
that they had built in Toronto mind blowing.78800:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.280
You step into those sets and you're there.78900:39:43.480 --> 00:39:48.079
It's the craftsmanship on that show was insane.79000:39:48.400 --> 00:39:50.519
I mean they built.79100:39:50.320 --> 00:39:54.039
A three story stage, two stages, fully functional, like you79200:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.320
could put a crane on the second floor of that79300:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.159
a tream it was. It was incredible and so immersive79400:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.519
and such a prove as an actor to step into where.79500:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.639
You know, a lot of these shows you're.79600:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.960
You're performing on green screen to a tennis ball and79700:40:09.079 --> 00:40:11.679
imagining what's there. But you didn't have to because of79800:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.280
the work they put in on that show. Estimate to79900:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.800
the creative prowess of everybody involved.80000:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.599
How were you notified? How did they tell you guys80100:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.920
that they decided to cancel the show before before season80200:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.840
two even was you know, completed. How did they tell80300:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.639
you and what was the feeling? What was it like80400:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.199
to hear that We were devastated as bands, but you80500:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.760
guys poured your heart and your soul into bringing this80600:40:37.840 --> 00:40:41.400
show to life. What was that like when that happened?80700:40:41.559 --> 00:40:44.760
Yeah, I mean, I can't speak for my cast mates.80800:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.360
It was devastating news for sure.80900:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.599
All all of them especially put forwards so much love81000:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.760
and energy into it, and you know.81100:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.480
It was I was. I was so proud of the81200:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.760
work we all did. I think there was there was81300:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.280
so much room for that show to grow as well.81400:41:08.519 --> 00:41:11.199
So all we can do is mourn what could have done.81500:41:11.360 --> 00:41:16.440
So is there a possibility like will we see you again?81600:41:16.960 --> 00:41:18.320
Or is your part in this?81700:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.599
I mean, is an assassin outside my window right now?81800:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.760
I just gotta say, you know, she can't answer that.81900:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.280
I mean, the show has been canceled.82000:41:27.320 --> 00:41:31.199
Anyway, there's a red laser point for.82100:41:33.960 --> 00:41:35.360
She's around here.82200:41:36.760 --> 00:41:41.719
Well, so all right, so let's stance around this a82300:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.159
little bit. What would you like?82400:41:45.679 --> 00:41:46.159
I love it?82500:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.559
Okay, what what would you like to see your character do?82600:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.800
Assuming that the show hadn't been, you know, cancel, Where82700:41:55.800 --> 00:41:57.960
would you like to have seen her end up?82800:41:58.119 --> 00:41:58.480
Yeah?82900:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.880
Well, I would have liked her. I would have liked83000:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.400
to see my goodness. I would have liked to see83100:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.800
her process the grief and the loss of Bobby, and83200:42:06.880 --> 00:42:11.760
I would like her to find her comfort and solace83300:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.760
in a new found family.83400:42:15.000 --> 00:42:18.920
I think she has a lot of misplaced rage and attitude,83500:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.000
and I think it's a lot of fun to play.83600:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.679
But I would have liked her to see her warm83700:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.400
up to the Starfleet Academy kids, because eventually you see83800:42:29.039 --> 00:42:33.519
they're actually not that bad. They're actually halfway decent about83900:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.280
solving things and figuring stuff out.84000:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.599
And maybe their methods are orthodox, but it gets stuff done.84100:42:38.599 --> 00:42:41.800
And I think eventually I would have liked to see84200:42:42.800 --> 00:42:43.519
her come around.84300:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.519
That would have been awesome. That would have been great.84400:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.119
Who knows their signing petitions. Maybe they'll do something else.84500:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.760
So what is your favorite Star Trek series? Of all84600:42:55.840 --> 00:42:56.920
of them? When?84700:42:56.920 --> 00:42:57.159
Do you?84800:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.239
Or haven't you had a chance to go back and84900:42:59.280 --> 00:43:00.360
watch all six years?85000:43:01.119 --> 00:43:06.039
I unfortunately have not. I'll update you once I do that.85100:43:06.199 --> 00:43:07.760
I'll call you back in thirty years.85200:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.280
I'm going to hold you to that. You're going to85300:43:12.360 --> 00:43:13.280
get a message for the.85400:43:15.079 --> 00:43:18.199
Thirty years from now. Okay, so favorite?85500:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.519
Okay, that would be funny, That would really be funny.85600:43:24.599 --> 00:43:26.800
Charles is actually putting it on the schedule right now.85700:43:27.400 --> 00:43:32.760
Yeah, Hey, Google, set a reminder for thirty years from now.85800:43:36.000 --> 00:43:40.199
So, Cecilia, did you did they did the writers or85900:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.400
did you internally develop kind of a backstory for your86000:43:43.480 --> 00:43:44.599
character internally?86100:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.360
Yes, in so far as you know, finding who she like?86200:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.840
She is the only romulent at star Fleet as we86300:43:54.079 --> 00:44:00.639
see in season one, and understanding understanding what brought her86400:44:00.719 --> 00:44:08.239
there and the responsibility she must feel to represent her86500:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.400
kind was something I wanted to hold as.86600:44:12.239 --> 00:44:12.840
I played her.86700:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.079
Yeah that makes sense, love it.86800:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.679
Yeah, that's that is awesome. So so hold on a second. Here,86900:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.320
my dog just came running.87000:44:24.360 --> 00:44:25.760
Dog tax. Let's see the dogs.87100:44:25.880 --> 00:44:27.480
And this is one of the awesome things you get87200:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.880
on our podcast. You get dogs, you et cats.87300:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.119
Okay, okay, so my dog.87400:44:38.719 --> 00:44:46.159
Is saying the dog just me No.87500:44:47.000 --> 00:44:47.920
So I only joined.87600:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.239
I joined the podcast about a year ago, so this87700:44:51.280 --> 00:44:55.599
has been quite the experience, just the blast. But as87800:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.280
you and Uncle Jim likes to share stories of you know,87900:44:59.360 --> 00:45:05.760
actual encounters with Star Trek actors, and he told this story.88000:45:07.119 --> 00:45:12.000
Ok I gotta get to it. You get to the question. Okay,88100:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.480
so there's a okay, I'll just all right. So it88200:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.239
was aq So in the bathroom and they're, you know,88300:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.320
doing their thing. They might like nod at one another.88400:45:20.480 --> 00:45:28.920
So so now the phrase is guy nod's And I88500:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.239
was just trying to think. It's like, okay, since I88600:45:31.239 --> 00:45:34.239
feel like I have an ally here in in uh88700:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.880
you know, another another female, what I mean, aside from88800:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.679
us going to you know, the no.88900:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.519
We do the oh my god, you're out so ute,89000:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.960
or you know what the solidarity.89100:45:48.480 --> 00:45:53.000
Of being like ship? Does anybody have a tampon? And89200:45:53.159 --> 00:45:54.480
every girl had.89300:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.960
Past But yeah, I didn't even think of that.89400:46:01.760 --> 00:46:08.360
There's no solidarity life, right, That's awesome.89500:46:08.440 --> 00:46:08.920
I'm sorry.89600:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.599
I just had to throw that out there because you know,89700:46:13.119 --> 00:46:14.039
I got a quick question.89800:46:18.079 --> 00:46:19.320
No, I wish.89900:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.760
I I also love animals, but unfortunately both me and90000:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.159
my partner work in film. In all hours, we really90100:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.440
want a dog, but it would be quite inhumane to90200:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.639
own one, and dog doesn't deserve that. So one day90300:46:35.039 --> 00:46:39.960
when we settled down to calmer pastors, dog is in90400:46:40.039 --> 00:46:40.480
the cards.90500:46:40.599 --> 00:46:42.000
Yeah, David, you had a question.90600:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.159
Yeah, so to stay away from Star Trek. I just90700:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.360
had a quick question because you mentioned that Lord of90800:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.519
the Range was your favorite genre for like, I'm curious,90900:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.320
have you ever sharned the Range of Power TV show91000:46:53.559 --> 00:46:54.199
that came out?91100:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.480
I did, yes, And what do you think of it?91200:46:56.599 --> 00:46:58.159
Enjoyed it for what it was?91300:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.079
Okay, it was pretty out there, but I was just curious,91400:47:02.119 --> 00:47:03.920
like because of the Lord of the Rings and now91500:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.280
they're coming up with a new movie of the Hunt91600:47:06.280 --> 00:47:06.800
for Gollum.91700:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.039
I think it's what it's called.91800:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.360
Yeah, I think so. And I have the animated series91900:47:11.639 --> 00:47:12.400
with the real hero.92000:47:12.480 --> 00:47:13.000
I believe.92100:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.519
Yeah, although I haven't watched it, I feel like i've92200:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.840
I've fallen off in in in the new new.92300:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.159
Lord of the Rings content.92400:47:23.079 --> 00:47:28.400
But I mean I enjoy things in that genre. I92500:47:28.440 --> 00:47:32.559
think as a standalone show, I really appreciated it similarly92600:47:32.679 --> 00:47:36.679
to The Hobbit. I just felt that Actually I won't.92700:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.480
Say anything, but I'll just say it was what.92800:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.159
It was, Okay.92900:47:40.840 --> 00:47:41.800
I was just curious.93000:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.800
That's also my favorite genre. It's a fantasy version of93100:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.920
like any kind of TV show, movies and stuff show93200:47:49.159 --> 00:47:50.800
because I grew up with that kind of stuff as well.93300:47:50.800 --> 00:47:52.599
And I've been going to a lot of different types93400:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.960
of reisance fairs. I don't know if Canada had any93500:47:55.039 --> 00:47:56.239
of that kind of stuff over there.93600:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.079
Well a couple, yeah, ran fairs for sure.93700:47:58.280 --> 00:47:59.880
Yeah, and so I was just curious, do you like93800:47:59.880 --> 00:48:03.199
to dress up in your slash Romulin elf outfit?93900:48:05.000 --> 00:48:05.360
Okay?94000:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.760
No, yes, I don't have the Romulin outfit. I wish94100:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.199
I did. I really wish I did that.94200:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.400
My gosh, can we take a moment to be to94300:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.039
just talk about the costume really quickly because my god,94400:48:20.360 --> 00:48:24.880
they were so good. The detail was insane. I mean94500:48:24.920 --> 00:48:26.960
I didn't get to look at all of the costumes obviously,94600:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.599
but like even the war college uniform, just the you know,94700:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.639
like the leather is embossed with little tiny deltas all94800:48:33.639 --> 00:48:35.800
the way through. If you didn't see it, like if94900:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.079
you get up close, it's just like why would you95000:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.519
so cool? And like every measurement, by the way known95100:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.360
to mankind was taken up me. I wish I didn't95200:48:45.400 --> 00:48:55.119
know existed. I was like, oh my god, you're taking95300:48:55.320 --> 00:48:56.519
and they're like there are no.95400:48:56.400 --> 00:48:57.239
Ways in space.95500:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.639
Wow, okay, so everything is actually there.95600:49:02.440 --> 00:49:03.119
Everything is.95700:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.960
It's actually a funny, funny video of that just reminded95800:49:07.000 --> 00:49:11.639
me of Marina Sirno Deanna Troy where she is going95900:49:11.800 --> 00:49:17.840
through the UH Star Trek next Generation and all the96000:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.880
the under they had to have because I think I96100:49:20.920 --> 00:49:22.320
don't know if she was the one that said there96200:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.920
were no pandelions and stuff like that, but it was.96300:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.639
It was really quite interesting, just just all the and96400:49:29.679 --> 00:49:33.360
I've heard from other uh Stars, you know, like nine,96500:49:33.519 --> 00:49:37.400
like the the all its universe, the the outs that96600:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.159
seem the most interesting but they're the most uncomfortable to96700:49:42.280 --> 00:49:46.440
wear and so interesting just all the everything that you96800:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.800
all go through that looks shirtless and wonderful and we96900:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.639
don't know even half the story what you have to97000:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.199
but now I'm obsessed with that. You're saying that the97100:49:58.480 --> 00:50:02.400
the your coast with like on your foreheads.97200:50:02.480 --> 00:50:09.480
Yes, how long did it take you to get into97300:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.280
your kit? When when you got arrived on set? How97400:50:12.320 --> 00:50:14.880
long did it take for you to step out of97500:50:14.960 --> 00:50:16.400
you and into her?97600:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.559
Three a half hours? Wow?97700:50:20.440 --> 00:50:20.880
Wow?97800:50:21.400 --> 00:50:21.639
Yeah?97900:50:21.920 --> 00:50:23.880
Where you're sitting next to Jayden the whole time.98000:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.079
A lot of the time. Yes, yeah, he'd be in here,98100:50:27.320 --> 00:50:29.519
we'd be he'd be back here and he was like,98200:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.480
go hi. But yeah, it's a long process for sure.98300:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.360
And it's it's a multi step process, you know.98400:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.159
It's like you go get a wig cap on, then98500:50:41.159 --> 00:50:42.880
you go to prosthetics and they put the forehead on98600:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.000
and the ears on, and then they start airbrushing and98700:50:45.000 --> 00:50:46.559
they put the eyebrows on. Then you go back to98800:50:46.599 --> 00:50:47.920
here to put the wig on, and then you go98900:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.639
back to prosthetics do more air brushing.99000:50:49.880 --> 00:50:50.880
Then you go to makeup and.99100:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.039
You put your wardrobe on. It it's a whole it's99200:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.639
a whole journey getting into it. But I I think99300:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.840
it just it helps it help get into that headspace.99400:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.519
I'm an actor who likes to work from the outside in.99500:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.760
I think informed a lot about the of who your99600:51:08.840 --> 00:51:11.159
character is by how they appear and how they dress99700:51:11.199 --> 00:51:14.719
and how they hold themselves. And those especially the like99800:51:14.760 --> 00:51:18.920
the formal leather jackets, the war college uniform.99900:51:19.039 --> 00:51:23.480
Once you're in that, it looks cool. It's very stiff100000:51:23.599 --> 00:51:24.599
and quite heavy.100100:51:25.239 --> 00:51:30.039
Wow, and the collar is like tight because it's form fitted.100200:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.039
And so you're in that and now suddenly you're standing100300:51:33.280 --> 00:51:37.360
so upright in your posture and you start feeling that100400:51:37.519 --> 00:51:42.199
militaristic quality. And yeah, it was a great process to100500:51:42.199 --> 00:51:42.679
be a part of it.100600:51:42.800 --> 00:51:43.840
I just have a quick question.100700:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.880
So you're saying that there's a step by step process100800:51:46.880 --> 00:51:47.920
of putting all the makeup on.100900:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.320
What happens when you end up getting an it. You101000:51:50.320 --> 00:51:51.000
have to start over.101100:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.760
You stuck it up, you suffer, no hair is feeling nice.101200:51:56.760 --> 00:51:59.679
They'll give you like a pointy brash or whatever, and101300:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.639
you can poke at it, but it takes three and101400:52:02.639 --> 00:52:03.920
a half hours to get into it.101500:52:03.960 --> 00:52:05.719
They're not going to take it off and put it101600:52:05.760 --> 00:52:09.360
back on. So there, and you know you're not going101700:52:09.440 --> 00:52:10.039
to work.101800:52:10.000 --> 00:52:13.239
Ruin the work of all these artists who are there101900:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.000
for longer hours than we are.102000:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.599
Shout out to the processing team who are.102100:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.239
There every single day before we're there and leave after102200:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.519
we leave, like just insane.102300:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.079
I don't know how they do it, but yeah, I'm102400:52:27.119 --> 00:52:31.760
not messing with their work. Okay, curious, Yeah, lots of poken.102500:52:37.000 --> 00:52:37.360
Gone.102600:52:37.639 --> 00:52:41.519
No, no, wow, that's okay. This happens on occasion we102700:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.599
have little technical glitches. Well I think we have. We102800:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.519
have certainly kept you long enough to say you thank102900:52:46.559 --> 00:52:49.280
you so much for joining our podcast tonight. It has103000:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.000
been a real, real pleasure. You were a fantastic guest103100:52:52.039 --> 00:52:53.840
and it was so nice to be able to talk103200:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.920
to you and connect to somebody from Starfleet Academy.103300:52:58.440 --> 00:53:00.760
First guest talked with all of you. So lovely to103400:53:00.760 --> 00:53:01.320
meet you all.103500:53:01.639 --> 00:53:04.519
Yeah, thank you so much, and we of course wish103600:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.039
you all the best in your next ventures and hopefully103700:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.840
maybe sometime in the future after you you know, get103800:53:09.880 --> 00:53:13.519
to play an Elf and some other Peter Jackson adaptation,103900:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.400
you know, we'll have you back and we can talk104000:53:16.400 --> 00:53:16.679
about it.104100:53:17.400 --> 00:53:19.800
If you're an awesome feeling and you get to use104200:53:19.880 --> 00:53:20.920
your your accent.104300:53:21.360 --> 00:53:21.960
Let's see that.104400:53:22.639 --> 00:53:30.519
Thank yes, well, thank you so much, Cecilia, and you104500:53:30.559 --> 00:53:31.280
have a great night.104600:53:32.480 --> 00:53:33.360
Thank you so much.104700:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.000
By just in time, we.104800:53:36.840 --> 00:53:42.559
Were just saying goodbye, Jim oh laya stuff on my104900:53:43.199 --> 00:53:48.960
disconnected tonight to get back. So thank you so much105000:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.480
for hanging out with us. And hopefully we'll see you105100:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.519
again on Starfleet Academy and you'll you'll get another d105200:53:54.679 --> 00:53:57.000
M for me when we do, to come back and105300:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.960
share your season two experiences with us when you're allowed105400:54:00.079 --> 00:54:01.000
to talk about them.105500:54:03.280 --> 00:54:04.000
Sounds like a plan.105600:54:04.760 --> 00:54:05.920
Okay, well, thank.105700:54:05.800 --> 00:54:10.840
You so much, bye.105800:54:11.360 --> 00:54:15.960
Bye, all right, guys, I keep getting.105900:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.440
Well this time was anyway, was awesome.106000:54:19.960 --> 00:54:21.440
Yeah, it was really fun.106100:54:21.559 --> 00:54:26.639
Yeah, to talk to somebody who's talent awesome, absolutely awesome.106200:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.840
All right, So well yeah, well, I mean I on106300:54:29.880 --> 00:54:34.440
the podcast, Well the fans shout out, guys, I think,106400:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.000
so let's do it.106500:54:37.079 --> 00:54:43.199
Oh that's right, we don't have an intro for fan shadows.106600:54:44.039 --> 00:54:44.400
I want you.106700:54:46.320 --> 00:54:53.000
I was waiting for fan shout outs. Yeah, all right,106800:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.280
it sounds like I got to go to you.106900:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.000
We don't have a fan shout out the song, but107000:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.760
we do have a fan shout out lecture for yours truly.107100:55:01.519 --> 00:55:03.320
If you would like to be featured in a fan107200:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.280
shout out, head over our Facebook page Truck Talking and beyond,107300:55:06.320 --> 00:55:08.719
look for the live long and prosper into the pop.107400:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.000
Tell us where you're from, leave lots of emo you107500:55:11.039 --> 00:55:13.280
look at our heart from yours truly, Uncle Jim. That107600:55:13.400 --> 00:55:17.039
means you'll be featured in a future ban shout out107700:55:17.280 --> 00:55:18.719
Eric take it away.107800:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.599
Yes, this week, I would like to first shout out107900:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.920
mister Michael West. Michael West is from the city that108000:55:26.079 --> 00:55:31.760
gave you chief engineer, Miles Edward O'Brien, Dublin, Ireland. How108100:55:31.760 --> 00:55:33.920
about that, Michael West, thank you so much for saying108200:55:33.920 --> 00:55:37.000
hello to us from Ireland. And uh, you know they108300:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.679
do say that Miles Edward O'Brien is the most most108400:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.599
important man in the universe. Is that what it is108500:55:42.719 --> 00:55:47.000
or in the galaxy something like that. Anyway, it's awesome108600:55:47.000 --> 00:55:48.800
that you're from the same place as him, and thank108700:55:48.840 --> 00:55:51.320
you for saying hello to us this week. We'd also108800:55:51.360 --> 00:55:54.679
like to say hello this week to Robert Urquart who108900:55:54.719 --> 00:55:59.519
is saying hello to us from Inverness, Scotland. Also on109000:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.159
that whole series of islands just across the pond, where109100:56:02.440 --> 00:56:04.280
we have lots and lots of friends of the podcast.109200:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.039
Thanks Robert for saying hello to us this week. I'd109300:56:07.039 --> 00:56:11.719
also like to say hello to Rodrigo ap ap from109400:56:11.760 --> 00:56:16.360
Brazil Rio Dejaneiro. And we actually have heard a lot109500:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.280
of support for our podcast from folks in Brazil. I109600:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.840
cannot wait to go there one day. Rio Dejanira looks109700:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.239
like an amazing place. Thanks Rodrigo for saying hi. And last,109800:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.480
but not least, on my list, I would like to109900:56:27.480 --> 00:56:31.199
say hello this week to Nathi Vanessa or maybe Vanessa110000:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.599
Nathi And there's a comment in there from Chile, Yeah,110100:56:34.639 --> 00:56:37.400
way down in South America sending us that livelong and110200:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.400
prospers sign. Thank you so much Nathi for saying hello110300:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.559
to us. The who would you like?110400:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.280
I was just thinking when you were talking about Brazil.110500:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.599
First off, the the that Terry, what was the movie110600:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.320
Brazil by a Monty Python guy that.110700:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.480
Was really oh yeah really.110800:56:58.360 --> 00:56:59.440
Remember his last name?110900:56:59.840 --> 00:57:03.199
And also isn't that where they have the gigantic Jesus111000:57:03.239 --> 00:57:05.840
statue there on the mountain on That's all?111100:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.360
Yeah, yeah, that's the place, all right?111200:57:08.400 --> 00:57:12.719
Well, speaking out we were talking to Cecilla, who's from Canada.111300:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.280
So I have my first hello and shout out to111400:57:16.639 --> 00:57:22.000
Vance Payne who is watching us or listening to us111500:57:22.000 --> 00:57:27.159
from Montreal, mont can't talk Montreal, Quebec to Canada with111600:57:27.199 --> 00:57:31.079
a little Canadian flags, our wonderful neighbors to the north.111700:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.639
Then Susan Ray, Hello and thank you to Susan Ray111800:57:35.719 --> 00:57:41.960
who is in Wyoming. Next Jerry Lee from San Antonio,111900:57:42.159 --> 00:57:46.440
Texas deep in the heart of Texas. And last, but112000:57:46.639 --> 00:57:49.639
certainly not least a little and thank you to Lenn112100:57:49.880 --> 00:57:56.239
Trecour who is in Detroit. All right, so now I112200:57:56.280 --> 00:58:01.280
fling the fan, shout out ball to Charles.112300:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.559
Oh, thank you V and I think the guy behind112400:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.719
but hopefully the noid doesn't bother any Hopefully the NOI112500:58:12.760 --> 00:58:17.400
doesn't bother people too much. Let's start off with a112600:58:17.480 --> 00:58:22.800
warm welcome to Eric Killman from southern California. Welcome Eric,112700:58:24.039 --> 00:58:32.039
and probably not too far is best singer from Durant Durante, California,112800:58:32.719 --> 00:58:36.800
who's three miles from the eastern fire, so stay safe, Beth.112900:58:38.400 --> 00:58:45.360
Welcome Todd Aaron c from Mississippi but originally from northern California.113000:58:46.559 --> 00:58:51.519
Welcome Todd and Finally on my list is Kirk P.113100:58:51.519 --> 00:58:57.639
P Discote from Nebraska. Welcome Kirk. I'm going to swing113200:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.320
it back to Eric, who could pronounce this off?113300:59:03.199 --> 00:59:06.960
Are you sure, Charles? I'd like to say hello this113400:59:07.000 --> 00:59:12.079
week on Paul's list to Katia Costella Nogi from San Marino.113500:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.880
That's right, San Marino, Katia, thank you so much for113600:59:14.920 --> 00:59:18.119
saying hello to us this week. I believe you're actually113700:59:18.119 --> 00:59:20.119
the first person to say hello to us from that113800:59:20.119 --> 00:59:22.199
beautiful city, so thank you so much for saying hi.113900:59:22.760 --> 00:59:27.599
Also like to say hello to Mbretta Spera from la Quila, Italy,114000:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.239
and I haven't been to Lac la Quila, but I114100:59:31.280 --> 00:59:33.800
have been to several other places in your wonderful country114200:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.039
and I can't say enough good about him. I had114300:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.000
such a good time every single time I was in Italy,114400:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.440
so thanks Ombretta for saying hello to us. Also like114500:59:42.519 --> 00:59:47.000
to say hello to Riq's Speared from Cronigan, Holland. And114600:59:47.039 --> 00:59:48.760
I actually had a good friend when I was in114700:59:48.800 --> 00:59:53.280
college who is from Groninggen Pimbas. Pimbas. If you're listening,114800:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.239
I'm still here, buddy, give me a call. Rek Spear.114900:59:56.360 --> 00:59:59.880
Do you know Pimbas maybe you do. Thanks for saying115001:00:00.239 --> 01:00:03.000
to us on our podcast here. And last but not least,115101:00:03.039 --> 01:00:06.639
I'd like to say hello to Rafael Sees Alvarez from115201:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.559
Barcelona in Catalonia Province in Spain, and I have to115301:00:10.559 --> 01:00:12.440
tell you this is one of my favorite cities in115401:00:12.480 --> 01:00:15.840
the world because of the architecture. Not only do you115501:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.360
have all of the beautiful Goudy you have College Trauma,115601:00:19.400 --> 01:00:23.119
you have all sorts of amazing architects represented there, and115701:00:23.440 --> 01:00:26.440
those Spanish styles from throughout the years, especially that gouty115801:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.920
style stuff. I'm a huge fan. So Raphael, you are115901:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.280
privileged to live in one of, in my opinion, the116001:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.039
most beautiful cities in the world, Barcelona. Thank you so116101:00:36.119 --> 01:00:38.639
much for listening to our podcast. Jim, I'm going to116201:00:38.679 --> 01:00:39.679
pass it back to you, buddy.116301:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.800
Thank you so much. Pop. I'm Eric, I know.116401:00:44.440 --> 01:00:45.559
Basically the same person.116501:00:46.079 --> 01:00:48.400
This is one of the things so I want to116601:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.840
say I'm not saying you d shout out to Martin Bennett,116701:00:51.880 --> 01:00:56.519
who's in Dennison, Texas, about fifteen minutes from Oklahoma border.116801:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.119
Thank you, Martin. I also want to say hello and116901:01:00.320 --> 01:01:03.840
thank you to Tim BERSONI who's in Central New York117001:01:03.960 --> 01:01:08.039
thank you for being a fan. And John Holbeck Junior,117101:01:08.079 --> 01:01:12.199
who's in Oswego, New York, thank you as well. And117201:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.320
last but not least, we want to say thank you117301:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.280
to Paul Shell who's in Medford, Massachusetts. Thank you so117401:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.840
much guys for being fans. We really appreciate it. We117501:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.880
couldn't and wouldn't do the show without you, guys, so117601:01:25.039 --> 01:01:28.000
thank you so much. As I said earlier, if you'd117701:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.239
like to be mentioned in a fan shadow, please head117801:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.239
out to our Facebook page. Book but we'll live on117901:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.079
and prosper post tell us where you're from. All right, guys,118001:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.119
Now it's time for our sci fi birthdays, and I118101:01:39.199 --> 01:02:18.239
know we have a theme song for this one.118201:02:00.079 --> 01:02:01.440
That was not a Clinton song.118301:02:03.599 --> 01:02:05.599
All right, guys, this is part of the show where118401:02:05.639 --> 01:02:09.920
we sadly enough remember those members of our sci fi118501:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.480
family who are no longer with us, and so that118601:02:13.039 --> 01:02:13.679
we return to.118701:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.119
Yeah, Jim, And just before I get started, I will118801:02:17.199 --> 01:02:19.559
acknowledge the elephant in the room. The best internet signal118901:02:19.599 --> 01:02:22.199
at my house's outdoors, and my neighbor is now mowing,119001:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.320
So if you hear a mower in the background, just119101:02:25.559 --> 01:02:29.840
ignore it and let's carry on. So our first remembrance119201:02:29.880 --> 01:02:33.960
this week goes out to, of course, actor Gary Graham.119301:02:34.079 --> 01:02:36.239
Gary Graham was the actor who played two roles on119401:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.519
Star Trek. He played the Ocampan Tannis in the Star119501:02:39.559 --> 01:02:43.719
Trek Voyager second season episode Cold Fire, and of perhaps119601:02:43.760 --> 01:02:47.360
more famously, played the Vulcan ambassador Solvall in all four119701:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.920
seasons of Star Trek Enterprise. One of my favorite Vulcans119801:02:51.360 --> 01:02:54.599
and absolute asshole throughout the entire series. It was really119901:02:54.599 --> 01:02:58.159
fun to watch. Graham was once considered for the roles120001:02:58.199 --> 01:03:02.599
of both Benjamin Cisco and Captain Janeway, and beyond the120101:03:02.599 --> 01:03:05.320
Realm of Star Trek, He's probably best known for playing120201:03:06.239 --> 01:03:10.280
Detective Matthew Sykes in Alien Nation, one of Jim's favorite shows,120301:03:10.280 --> 01:03:13.320
I believe, as well as the spinoff TV movies that120401:03:13.360 --> 01:03:17.400
happened kind of in the mid nineties Realm. In twenty fourteen,120501:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.159
he got to reprise his role as Sovall in the120601:03:20.199 --> 01:03:23.760
fan made short film Prelude to Axinar, which of course120701:03:23.840 --> 01:03:26.639
co starred a whole bunch of other Star Trek alumni.120801:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.880
He was also a singer, a songwriter, and a guitarist120901:03:30.280 --> 01:03:33.719
in his band The Sons of Kirk, formerly the Gary121001:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.559
Graham garage Band and the Gary Graham Band, a Star121101:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.400
Trek themed band. I actually got to meet Gary when121201:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.719
I was in Los Angeles in twenty twenty for the121301:03:42.760 --> 01:03:46.480
Star Trek Bicard premiere. He was very cordial with me121401:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.599
in a super casual setting. I will say no more,121501:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.800
but he seemed like a really cool guy. And he121601:03:52.880 --> 01:03:54.760
has this quote that I really like. He said, I'm121701:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.559
one of those actors who's happy even when he's not working.121801:03:57.639 --> 01:03:59.960
I'm not a workaholic by any stretch of the imagine.121901:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.719
My attitude has always been to have a life first122001:04:03.800 --> 01:04:05.639
and then go do the work. And I have to122101:04:05.679 --> 01:04:08.199
tell you, Gary, that's kind of how I live my122201:04:08.239 --> 01:04:10.400
life too. I work forty forty two hours a week122301:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.159
and that's about all I work, and I do the122401:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.159
best with the time that I give it. So, Gary Graham,122501:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.559
it was really fun to be able to meet you122601:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.559
back in twenty twenty. Sorry to have lost you back122701:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.320
in twenty twenty four at the age of seventy three122801:04:22.360 --> 01:04:27.000
years old. Happy birthday to Gary Graham. Happy birthday as122901:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.239
well to Joan Marshall, the actress who played Lieutenant Aril123001:04:30.400 --> 01:04:34.760
Shaw in the TOS first season episode Court martial. Marshall123101:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.159
entered show business when she was hired as a show123201:04:37.239 --> 01:04:43.480
girl at Chicago's che Perrie at the age of fourteen123301:04:43.559 --> 01:04:46.559
years old and began appearing in Las Vegas two years later.123401:04:47.039 --> 01:04:50.559
She made around ten feature films, liking only a few123501:04:50.559 --> 01:04:54.079
of them. In nineteen sixty one, she starred in Homicidal,123601:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.920
playing two different roles, one male and one female, and123701:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.440
that act film has sort of developed a cult following123801:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.320
over the years. I've never seen it, but it sounds123901:05:05.360 --> 01:05:07.519
interesting and I'm interested in cult films. We will check124001:05:07.519 --> 01:05:10.079
it out. She had a gift for comedy, often appearing124101:05:10.119 --> 01:05:12.840
on such television shows as The Jack Benny Program and124201:05:12.880 --> 01:05:16.440
The Red Skelton Hour. In the seventies, she collaborated with124301:05:16.519 --> 01:05:20.400
her old school friend, the award winning writer Dirk Wayne Summers,124401:05:20.440 --> 01:05:24.519
co writing sitcoms, and then, of course, she eventually married124501:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.199
Hal Ashby. And if you don't know that name, he's124601:05:27.239 --> 01:05:30.760
the gentleman associated with the movie Shampoo, and that movie124701:05:30.880 --> 01:05:35.559
is actually unfortunately based on real events without her knowledge.124801:05:35.639 --> 01:05:39.480
Over the first six months of their marriage, at his insistence,124901:05:39.599 --> 01:05:43.159
she sort of related personal experiences from her life, you know,125001:05:43.280 --> 01:05:44.960
kind of as a like get to know you activity.125101:05:45.000 --> 01:05:46.880
I don't know what led to their marriage, but I125201:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.840
guess they didn't know each other that well. Then he125301:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.960
turned those details into the romantic comedy Shampoo, and she125401:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.639
was not very pleased to have all of her laundry125501:05:55.679 --> 01:05:59.320
sort of aired for the public in that movie. But125601:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.599
that's okay because at the sort towards the end of125701:06:02.639 --> 01:06:05.599
her life, she visited Jamaica, she fell in love with125801:06:05.639 --> 01:06:09.480
the island and she eventually moved there and that is125901:06:09.519 --> 01:06:11.599
where she spent the rest of her life until nineteen126001:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.719
ninety two. So Joan Marshall, thank you so much for126101:06:14.760 --> 01:06:19.880
your Star Trek contributions and happy birthday to you. Also126201:06:19.920 --> 01:06:23.400
saying happy birthday this week to Alan Scaife, the British126301:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.280
actor who appeared in two episodes of the Next Generation126401:06:26.960 --> 01:06:29.360
and in an episode of Star Trek Voyager. He was126501:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.880
the first actor who was cast and filmed scenes as126601:06:32.920 --> 01:06:36.400
the kazon Ogla Jabin for a Star Trek Voyagers first126701:06:36.400 --> 01:06:40.920
season episode Caretaker, but the role was later recast with126801:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.280
the actor Gavin o'heerley, who actually overfilmed all of the126901:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.519
stuff that Alan had already worked on. And it was127001:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.880
because Alan sort of had a European movie that he127101:06:51.039 --> 01:06:54.079
was involved with. It conflicted, and he had to sort127201:06:54.119 --> 01:06:57.000
of break his contract with Star Trek to go do127301:06:57.079 --> 01:07:01.599
that instead. He's probably, however, best known for starring as127401:07:01.760 --> 01:07:05.679
Doctor Bradley Talmadge on Seven Days, which was a science127501:07:05.719 --> 01:07:08.519
fiction show from the late nineties early two thousands. One127601:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.840
of those kind of upn guilty pleasure shows, if you127701:07:11.840 --> 01:07:15.440
know what I mean, really fun to watch, not much127801:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.159
to it, but lots of campy action and clever plots127901:07:18.159 --> 01:07:21.840
and cool gadgets, so I was a fan. He also128001:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.840
played arch Magis in earthca from two thousand and five,128101:07:26.440 --> 01:07:31.119
and starred as Doctor Rubin Zeller in Sequest DSV, which128201:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.840
I know is a show that comes up occasionally on128301:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.760
our podcast from way back in the nineteen ninety three Days.128401:07:37.039 --> 01:07:39.039
He actually had his own character too. I don't know128501:07:39.039 --> 01:07:41.079
if Paul has the Playmates figure or not, but he128601:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.320
had his own Playmates figure from nineteen ninety three, So128701:07:44.400 --> 01:07:49.760
perhaps somewhere in Paul's archive is that Sequest DSV toy.128801:07:49.840 --> 01:07:52.760
So Happy birthday and lots of love going out to128901:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.480
Alan Scariff, lost just two years ago in twenty twenty four.129001:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.960
Happy Birthday to Jesse Lawrence Ferguson, the actor who appeared129101:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.400
as Lieutan in the Next Generation first season episode Code129201:08:04.440 --> 01:08:08.079
of Honor. This deep voice actor broke into show business129301:08:08.079 --> 01:08:10.960
with a guest role on the popular television series Starsky129401:08:11.039 --> 01:08:13.599
and Hutch in nineteen seventy nine. I know a lot129501:08:13.639 --> 01:08:16.159
of us remember that show. That same year, he landed129601:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.520
his first film role in The Onion Field, which also129701:08:19.600 --> 01:08:22.119
starred Ronnie Cox. That's actually a pretty darn good movie.129801:08:22.159 --> 01:08:25.039
You should check that out. In the nineteen eighties, he129901:08:25.119 --> 01:08:27.399
had lots of guest appearances on shows like The A130001:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.239
Team in Hill Street Blues. He was also in the130101:08:30.279 --> 01:08:34.880
cult classic Prince of Darkness from nineteen eighty seven. But130201:08:34.960 --> 01:08:36.600
the one that I really like to cite him for130301:08:36.720 --> 01:08:38.840
is he appeared in the nineteen eighty four movie The130401:08:38.880 --> 01:08:43.279
Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzi, of course across the Eighth Dimension.130501:08:43.680 --> 01:08:46.600
And that's not only because that's an awesome cult classic movie,130601:08:46.600 --> 01:08:49.000
but it also starred like nine other Star Trek people.130701:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.359
So if you're a Star Trek person and you haven't130801:08:51.359 --> 01:08:54.359
seen the Adventures of Buckaru Bonzi, you need to see130901:08:54.399 --> 01:08:59.920
that movie. Happy Birthday to Jesse Lawrence Ferguson, Happy birth131001:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.680
as well to Bernie Terry Casey, who played a Calvin131101:09:03.760 --> 01:09:07.199
Hudson in Deep Space nine second season episodes The Machi131201:09:07.319 --> 01:09:09.840
Parts one and Part two. One of my favorite kind131301:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.800
of one off characters. I love Calvin Hudson. He's such131401:09:12.880 --> 01:09:17.079
a cool, cool character, leader of the Makis. Casey was131501:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.479
not a Star Trek fan when he was cast as Hudson.131601:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.279
In a nineteen ninety four interview, he said, I did131701:09:22.279 --> 01:09:24.760
the makeis because I wanted to work with Avery Brooks,131801:09:25.159 --> 01:09:28.239
whom I admired as an actor. I love that. I'm131901:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.720
glad you got to work with him, even for two episodes.132001:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.520
Before becoming an actor, Casey was a track and field132101:09:34.600 --> 01:09:38.960
champion and a professional football player. That's right. He played132201:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.039
for the National Football League San Francisco forty nine Ers132301:09:42.079 --> 01:09:44.680
from nineteen sixty one to sixty six, and he played132401:09:44.680 --> 01:09:48.520
for the Rams from sixty seven to sixty eight. But132501:09:48.880 --> 01:09:52.880
more important than I think his sort of physical prowess132601:09:53.319 --> 01:09:57.000
was his artistic prowess. He was an accomplished painter whose132701:09:57.039 --> 01:10:00.600
work has widely been exhibited, and he was also a132801:10:00.640 --> 01:10:04.199
poet with several published books to his name. In fact,132901:10:04.520 --> 01:10:07.319
while he was playing pro football, he was profiled by133001:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.960
NFL Films, and he was interviewed while painting. He said133101:10:10.960 --> 01:10:16.479
that he only played football basically for money, and if133201:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.680
he could make as much money painting, he wouldn't play133301:10:19.680 --> 01:10:25.159
football at all. I love that an actor and a director.133401:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.319
You might have seen him in Bill and Ted's excellent133501:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.520
adventure Never Say Never Again or Revenge of the Nerds.133601:10:31.239 --> 01:10:34.199
He was also a member of sag Afra. He worked133701:10:34.319 --> 01:10:37.000
in several positions for this union and was voted to133801:10:37.079 --> 01:10:42.319
serve as SAG National Board alternate to the Hollywood Division133901:10:42.359 --> 01:10:44.920
Board of Directors, so he was involved in the politics134001:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.319
of SAG after along the way Bernie Terry Casey, Wow,134101:10:48.760 --> 01:10:52.640
what didn't you do? Buddy? Happy birthday to you. Happy134201:10:52.640 --> 01:10:55.680
birthday as well to James Darren. I love this guy.134301:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.239
He was an actor, director, and singer who played the134401:10:58.239 --> 01:11:02.119
holographic lounge singer Vic Fan in the sixth and seven134501:11:02.199 --> 01:11:05.119
seasons of Star Trek Deep Space nine, of course, also134601:11:05.159 --> 01:11:09.359
playing the mirror universe Vic Fontaine in The Emperor's New Cloak.134701:11:10.079 --> 01:11:15.159
James William Erkolani was his original name. He was from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,134801:11:15.159 --> 01:11:17.279
and then moved to New York City to fulfill his134901:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.600
dream of becoming a singer and an actor. How American135001:11:20.720 --> 01:11:23.880
is that. After a short time taking acting classes, he135101:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.640
met Columbia Pictures talent agent Joy Selznick, who gave him135201:11:27.640 --> 01:11:31.479
a seven year contract with Columbia in nineteen fifty five.135301:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.479
He then moved to Hollywood, California, and stood in front135401:11:34.479 --> 01:11:38.600
of a camera for nineteen Columbia Films. The following year,135501:11:39.039 --> 01:11:42.319
he took his stage name James Darren, named after the135601:11:42.439 --> 01:11:46.640
Kaiser Darren sports car. There you Go. He named himself135701:11:46.680 --> 01:11:49.560
after a sports car. Several movies throughout the nineteen fifties,135801:11:49.560 --> 01:11:52.319
including Gidget from nineteen fifty nine. I know you've seen135901:11:52.319 --> 01:11:54.960
that movie. If you haven't, another classic, you should see it.136001:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.359
He portrayed the leading role of doctor Anthony Newman in136101:11:58.479 --> 01:12:02.880
the Time Tunnel and Paul were Here. He would extol136201:12:02.920 --> 01:12:05.560
the virtues of that science fiction series from nineteen sixty136301:12:05.560 --> 01:12:09.279
six to nineteen sixty seven. After that was canceled, he136401:12:10.319 --> 01:12:13.319
producer Irwin Allen cast Darren in the role of the136501:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.399
science fiction pilot The Man from the Twenty fifth Century,136601:12:16.520 --> 01:12:20.479
which also featured John Crawford. However, that project was not136701:12:20.680 --> 01:12:24.039
picked up as a series, but he kept busy throughout136801:12:24.039 --> 01:12:26.760
the seventies, eighties, and nineties, all along the way, So James Darren,136901:12:27.359 --> 01:12:31.000
great singer, great actor. Thank you Vic for all the137001:12:31.000 --> 01:12:35.039
good times and a happy birth idio saying happy birthday137101:12:35.039 --> 01:12:37.319
this week to her to Ware, the actress who played137201:12:37.439 --> 01:12:41.000
Yvette Picard, Yes, that Picard in The Next Journation first137301:12:41.039 --> 01:12:44.000
season episode where No One Has Gone Before. She was137401:12:44.039 --> 01:12:47.239
a guitarist and of folk singer in the Washington, DC area,137501:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.600
and moved to New York City and began acting in137601:12:49.600 --> 01:12:54.439
the early nineteen thirties. Actually made her Broadway debut in137701:12:54.560 --> 01:12:58.880
nineteen thirty five in a play called Let Freedom Ring.137801:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.199
She was I love this story about her. She was137901:13:03.239 --> 01:13:08.119
actually blacklisted by Hollywood during the McCarthy era for taking138001:13:08.159 --> 01:13:10.960
the Fifth Amendment and refusing to testify before the House138101:13:11.119 --> 01:13:15.439
on American Activities Committee, which would lead to financial hardship138201:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.920
and the loss of her and her husband's home. But138301:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.760
sad times, but man, I love the fact that she138401:13:23.840 --> 01:13:26.199
kind of stood on principle and was like, no, I'm138501:13:26.199 --> 01:13:29.600
not going to bow to you. You freaking my mouth.138601:13:31.239 --> 01:13:34.359
Where is perhaps best known for her part as Rosie138701:13:34.399 --> 01:13:38.079
in Cocoon from nineteen eighty five. She also had a138801:13:38.159 --> 01:13:42.279
role in the movie twenty ten from nineteen eighty four138901:13:42.800 --> 01:13:48.479
as Jesse Bowman, the astronaut David Bowman's mother. But I139001:13:48.720 --> 01:13:50.720
love the stuff that she did. Kind of away from139101:13:50.760 --> 01:13:53.479
the screen to Gear and where her and her husband139201:13:53.479 --> 01:13:58.720
co founded the Wheel Gear Theatricum Botanicum on their Topanga139301:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.920
Canyon property down there in California, which is a unique139401:14:01.920 --> 01:14:06.279
open air theater located in the Topagia Canyon, California area,139501:14:06.359 --> 01:14:09.560
tucked into a natural mountain sanctuary. It's well known for139601:14:09.600 --> 01:14:13.800
producing plays by William Shakespeare and hosting folk music concerts.139701:14:14.439 --> 01:14:17.119
She was a veteran actress and eventually published her own139801:14:17.159 --> 01:14:21.479
memoir entitled Fantastic Journey My Life with Wheel Gear in139901:14:21.560 --> 01:14:25.359
two thousand. Herd Aware, we really appreciate your contributions. I140001:14:25.359 --> 01:14:27.600
can't believe it's been more than twenty years since we140101:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.039
lost you. But you were eighty eight, so you had140201:14:30.039 --> 01:14:33.319
a pretty darn good life. Happy birthday to you, herd A.140301:14:34.199 --> 01:14:36.840
And last but noon least we honor this week Herbert140401:14:37.199 --> 01:14:40.399
Barry Morse. And you're saying when we see on Star Trek,140501:14:40.479 --> 01:14:43.520
Well he wasn't. But we're going beyond here. That's right.140601:14:43.560 --> 01:14:47.359
He's the British Canadian actor, writer, and director best known140701:14:47.760 --> 01:14:51.680
for playing Lieutenant Philip Garrard, the principal antagonist of The140801:14:51.760 --> 01:14:55.199
Fugitive from nineteen sixty three to nineteen sixty seven. In fact,140901:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.199
his portrayal was so convincing on this show that he141001:14:59.239 --> 01:15:03.680
would eventually be accosted in public for the actions of141101:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.960
his character, and he was once called the most hated141201:15:06.039 --> 01:15:10.159
man in America based on the character that he played141301:15:10.239 --> 01:15:14.079
on television. His biographer, Robert E. Wood reported that he141401:15:14.079 --> 01:15:19.199
would humorously deflect comments by feigning ignorance about his character141501:15:19.640 --> 01:15:23.000
and revert to his native British accent, because, of course141601:15:23.039 --> 01:15:25.520
on The Fugitive he had the American accent, and most141701:15:25.520 --> 01:15:27.880
people didn't know that he was naturally a brit So141801:15:28.600 --> 01:15:32.079
I love that. Now we've got planes going overhead. There141901:15:32.119 --> 01:15:35.560
you go, Doctor Victor. He was also known for playing142001:15:35.640 --> 01:15:40.720
doctor Victor Bergmann on Jerry and Sylvia Anderson's show Space142101:15:40.800 --> 01:15:42.880
nineteen ninety nine, which I of course liked to talk142201:15:42.880 --> 01:15:44.680
about because I just finished up watching all the way142301:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.119
through from nineteen seventy five through nineteen seventy seven. He142401:15:47.159 --> 01:15:52.680
played the antagonist in that first season, but his character142501:15:53.000 --> 01:15:56.000
was dropped for the second season because he and his142601:15:56.159 --> 01:15:59.600
agent couldn't come to an agreement with the studio on salary. Essentially,142701:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.720
they want to offer him a much lower salary for142801:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.239
season two and he didn't want to take it, so142901:16:05.479 --> 01:16:08.000
we get him for one season, which was awesome. He143001:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.079
was a great sort of mustache twirling villain in that143101:16:11.159 --> 01:16:16.319
first season. His performing career spanned seven decades and had143201:16:16.439 --> 01:16:19.199
hundreds of roles across film, television, stage and radio. At143301:16:19.279 --> 01:16:22.079
various times, he worked in the UK, Canada, and the143401:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.640
United States. He was a steady fixture on BBC and143501:16:25.720 --> 01:16:29.279
CBC for many years and was the artistic director of143601:16:29.319 --> 01:16:32.560
the Shaw Festival, which is a pretty prestigious role. He143701:16:32.720 --> 01:16:37.520
long patronized a number of charitable organizations as well, including143801:16:37.560 --> 01:16:40.920
the Toronto based Performing Arts Lodges of Canada, the Royal143901:16:41.000 --> 01:16:46.079
Theatrical Fund, the London Shakespeare Workout, Prison Project Actors Fund144001:16:46.079 --> 01:16:50.479
of Canada, the Samaritans Book Pals, and the Parkinson's Disease144101:16:50.600 --> 01:16:53.520
Treatment and Research. Because he had lost his wife to144201:16:53.600 --> 01:16:58.239
Parkinson's and there's some question about I believe he may144301:16:58.239 --> 01:16:59.520
have had some of that at the end there too,144401:17:00.119 --> 01:17:03.560
happy birthday to a wonderful man Star Trek adjacent through144501:17:03.600 --> 01:17:07.279
his various science fiction roles. But happy birthday to Barry144601:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.840
Morse and that, folks does it for our remember this144701:17:10.960 --> 01:17:11.439
this week?144801:17:11.800 --> 01:17:12.119
You got?144901:17:15.399 --> 01:17:16.000
Oh do I?145001:17:16.399 --> 01:17:16.560
Oh?145101:17:16.680 --> 01:17:22.119
Sorry? Perhaps a couple were added after I did my notes.145201:17:22.439 --> 01:17:25.680
Oh yes, a couple. Okay, so here we owe all right.145301:17:25.760 --> 01:17:29.840
We've also got actor Robert Lansing, who of course played145401:17:29.840 --> 01:17:34.359
Gary Seven in the original series second season episode Assignment Earth.145501:17:35.239 --> 01:17:38.319
I love that the comic books later then kind of145601:17:38.359 --> 01:17:40.840
continued the story of this episode and we get a145701:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.199
little bit more Gary seven in the future. This episode145801:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.079
was actually supposed to serve as a pilot for a145901:17:46.119 --> 01:17:48.960
possible television series that would have started Lancing as Gary146001:17:49.039 --> 01:17:52.640
Seven's character, but unfortunately it was not picked up. I146101:17:52.680 --> 01:17:54.640
personally think that would have been an awesome sort of146201:17:55.239 --> 01:17:59.520
confluence of Star Trek and like Mission Impossible, right, perfect146301:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.439
for that, but we didn't, unfortunately get it. But we146401:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.399
got some Robert Lansing in our lives, which was awesome.146501:18:05.880 --> 01:18:08.039
Thank you, Robert for your Star Trek contributions and for146601:18:08.079 --> 01:18:12.159
playing one of the coolest secret agents of the time,146701:18:12.279 --> 01:18:18.439
me whiny future in Star Trek that we have last,146801:18:18.760 --> 01:18:20.880
and finally, last but not least on my list, because146901:18:20.920 --> 01:18:23.159
I missed a couple. Here we have Happy birthday to147001:18:23.359 --> 01:18:26.920
John Abbott, the English actor who worked steadily from the147101:18:26.960 --> 01:18:31.199
thirties to the eighties, massing dozens of television guest appearances147201:18:31.199 --> 01:18:35.920
and movie roles, almost one hundred and fifty in total.147301:18:36.359 --> 01:18:36.760
That's right.147401:18:37.239 --> 01:18:41.279
He was particularly active in nineteen sixties television, with guest147501:18:41.279 --> 01:18:44.840
appearances on many shows of that era. But we of147601:18:44.880 --> 01:18:48.319
course know him as playing Albourne in ts's first season147701:18:48.680 --> 01:18:52.800
episode Aaron of Mercy. John Abbott, thank you so much147801:18:52.840 --> 01:18:56.439
for having such a cool character in Star Trek and147901:18:56.439 --> 01:18:58.560
for portraying that role in such a very cool way.148001:18:59.439 --> 01:19:01.439
I love it. And I also remember him, of course148101:19:01.479 --> 01:19:04.800
from one of my favorite shows, The Monsters, back in148201:19:04.840 --> 01:19:06.760
the day. I'm such a big Monsters fan.148301:19:08.359 --> 01:19:08.800
Yeah.148401:19:08.880 --> 01:19:14.119
Anyway, happy birthday, Happy birthday there so to John Abbott.148501:19:14.159 --> 01:19:18.680
So that now finally does it for my list. Thanks148601:19:18.680 --> 01:19:22.239
guys for keeping me honest. I know that sometimes I148701:19:22.279 --> 01:19:23.520
missed up, but that's right here we are.148801:19:25.159 --> 01:19:28.279
Yeah, yes, yes I do.148901:19:28.600 --> 01:19:30.680
I was gonna say her to where so she was149001:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.239
married to will Gear And isn't there their daughter is149101:19:34.319 --> 01:19:38.199
Ellen Gear who was doctor Marr. Yes, so there's that149201:19:38.319 --> 01:19:42.039
start on the with the Crystalline entity. Yeah on TG149301:19:42.920 --> 01:19:44.920
so there's that connection too, I know.149401:19:45.159 --> 01:19:45.520
Wild.149501:19:46.079 --> 01:19:49.640
So my first happy birthday goes out to Kim Rhodes149601:19:49.720 --> 01:19:55.760
who is from Portland, Oregon, and she was of course. Yeah.149701:19:55.880 --> 01:20:00.279
She appeared on Voyagers ensign Lindsay Ballard aka the Alli149801:20:00.800 --> 01:20:04.680
Jet Layah in six season episode Ashes to Ashes. That's149901:20:04.680 --> 01:20:08.560
one of my favorites because that's where Harry Kim had150001:20:08.560 --> 01:20:11.000
a well, Harry Kim had a crush on an everybody,150101:20:11.079 --> 01:20:15.680
but that was one of them. She also it wasn't150201:20:15.920 --> 01:20:20.880
she really was. And she also provided her voice to150301:20:20.920 --> 01:20:24.840
the character Ulana Oxala in the video game Star Trek150401:20:24.960 --> 01:20:29.800
Away Team Next. Oh yeah, here's a happy birthday going.150501:20:29.680 --> 01:20:31.199
Out to Liam Neeson.150601:20:32.359 --> 01:20:37.279
He is from Ballymena, Northern Ireland, and he portrayed Qui150701:20:37.399 --> 01:20:42.319
Gone Jin. Oh yes, he did, sorry in Star Wars150801:20:42.439 --> 01:20:48.159
episode one, The Phantom Menace, ros Alghoul in Batman Begins.150901:20:48.800 --> 01:20:52.600
But he's best known as ex government operative Brian Mills151001:20:52.680 --> 01:20:56.239
in Taken Taken two and Taken in three? Is that151101:20:56.279 --> 01:21:02.039
where his daughter gets kidnapped and he's very.151201:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.359
Yes, yes, And I was going to say best known.151301:21:03.720 --> 01:21:06.600
I mean, you know, up against movies like SHO I.151401:21:06.520 --> 01:21:10.560
Know, right, I know, not sure.151501:21:11.000 --> 01:21:14.039
And he's he can be reminacing on the phone, you know,151601:21:14.319 --> 01:21:14.880
I don't know.151701:21:17.199 --> 01:21:17.279
That.151801:21:17.399 --> 01:21:20.680
I imagine he can be. And I mean, yeah, I don't.151901:21:20.760 --> 01:21:26.239
I don't disagree with anything else you said about him, probably.152001:21:25.960 --> 01:21:31.640
Yeah, yeah, lots of lots of things. Next, Happy birthday152101:21:31.680 --> 01:21:34.319
to one of my favorite actors, Michael J.152201:21:34.640 --> 01:21:35.079
Fox.152301:21:35.359 --> 01:21:40.439
He's a celebrated Canadian American actor, author, and activist who152401:21:40.479 --> 01:21:44.399
rose to global stardom in the nineteen eighties. Of course,152501:21:44.399 --> 01:21:50.159
he was Martin McFly in in the Black Sorry I'm152601:21:50.199 --> 01:21:54.479
brain dead. Sorry, it's a day Back to the Future trilogy,152701:21:54.600 --> 01:21:59.119
and of course Alex P. Keaton on the sitcom Family Ties,152801:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.520
which he was brilliant in, and that's where he met152901:22:02.560 --> 01:22:09.600
his wife, Tracy. Just went on in my head anyway,153001:22:10.119 --> 01:22:12.239
she was on there and they've been married ever since.153101:22:13.520 --> 01:22:14.439
Thank you, thank you.153201:22:14.520 --> 01:22:14.840
Yes.153301:22:15.479 --> 01:22:20.000
But his biggest thing that because he has Parkinson's but153401:22:20.199 --> 01:22:27.039
he is a very influential advocate for medical research. So153501:22:27.119 --> 01:22:31.680
that's really taking something that you know, was a horrible153601:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.880
thing to happen to him. But he is making the153701:22:35.920 --> 01:22:40.199
absolute best of it, trying to get other people help. Next,153801:22:40.279 --> 01:22:45.039
Happy Birthday goes out to Jessica Goana. She's an actress153901:22:45.079 --> 01:22:49.399
who portrayed an a con colonist in The Voyager sixth154001:22:49.560 --> 01:22:54.760
season episode Memorial. She also played the young Bellona Torres154101:22:54.760 --> 01:22:59.760
in the seventh season episode Lineage. Oh here's a big one.154201:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.960
We were just talking about him. Happy Birthday to Paul Giamatti,154301:23:05.720 --> 01:23:11.199
who chewed the scenery like only Paul Giamatti ken as154401:23:11.319 --> 01:23:18.159
nos Braka in Starfleet Academy first season episodes Kids These Days, Come,154501:23:18.359 --> 01:23:24.119
Let's Away and Rubin Khan. He said, my favorite series154601:23:24.279 --> 01:23:25.920
is d S nine, which.154701:23:25.720 --> 01:23:26.760
I really really love.154801:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.800
Me to Paul, the one with the Wales. That's my154901:23:30.960 --> 01:23:35.439
favorite movie. Again, me too, Paul. It's such a great movie,155001:23:35.680 --> 01:23:38.359
and Raff of Kahan is a great one. But I155101:23:38.479 --> 01:23:40.520
do love The Voyage Home.155201:23:41.000 --> 01:23:44.560
Sorry, Uncle Jim. No no other.155301:23:44.640 --> 01:23:49.960
Star Trek movies. Next to Happy Birthday to Anna Tour.155401:23:50.279 --> 01:23:55.039
She's an Australian actress actress who gained international recognition for155501:23:55.199 --> 01:23:58.640
her role as Olivia Dunham in a sci fi series Fringe.155601:23:59.479 --> 01:24:04.520
Perform earned her a record breaking four consecutive Saturn Awards155701:24:04.520 --> 01:24:08.720
WOW for Best Actress on Television. Torv is also the155801:24:08.800 --> 01:24:11.720
voice and model for the character Noriko in the video155901:24:11.840 --> 01:24:13.880
game Heavenly Sword.156001:24:16.439 --> 01:24:19.399
I have to tell you that Fringe is one of156101:24:19.399 --> 01:24:22.800
my favorite guilty pleasure shows. I don't know if you156201:24:22.840 --> 01:24:26.720
guys need to check it out, I guess, but yeah,156301:24:26.760 --> 01:24:29.520
it is just weird enough and it's got I mean156401:24:29.520 --> 01:24:32.680
you can tell just by that photo, right, kind of156501:24:32.800 --> 01:24:35.239
like what genre it belongs to. It's kind of got that,156601:24:35.319 --> 01:24:38.720
like law and order, but yet it's science fiction and156701:24:38.760 --> 01:24:40.760
it's so it's a little bit campy and a little156801:24:40.800 --> 01:24:43.239
bit unbelievable, which is what makes it totally awesome.156901:24:44.600 --> 01:24:49.000
I mean, looking at that guy drinking, he's like, Okay.157001:24:49.199 --> 01:24:55.159
Yeah, that guy's he's like the lead. Yeah, yeah, he's yep.157101:24:55.840 --> 01:24:56.399
Check it out.157201:24:56.600 --> 01:24:57.279
I've never seen it.157301:24:57.520 --> 01:24:59.039
Yeah, it's a good show.157401:25:00.199 --> 01:25:00.600
All right.157501:25:00.680 --> 01:25:03.800
Thanks to Happy Birthday goes out to Carl heinz Urban157601:25:04.159 --> 01:25:08.680
is a New Zealand actor who's appeared as Ilmer in157701:25:08.800 --> 01:25:12.720
two films of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Baco157801:25:12.760 --> 01:25:17.119
in two films of the Riddick film series, Johnny Cage157901:25:17.159 --> 01:25:21.600
in Mortal Kombat two, doctor Leonard Bones McCoy in the158001:25:21.640 --> 01:25:26.640
Star Trek reboot film series, Carill in The Born Supremacy,158101:25:27.119 --> 01:25:33.000
John Reaper Grim in Doom, Judge Dredd in Dread, Scourge158201:25:33.159 --> 01:25:39.239
in Thorg. Gregna Rock starred in the sci fi series158301:25:39.720 --> 01:25:46.159
Almost Human, most recently as Billy Butcher in The Boys. Oh,158401:25:46.319 --> 01:25:51.359
Happy birthday to Natalie Portman, who was born Natalie Hirschlag.158501:25:52.000 --> 01:25:58.159
Portrayed podme Amidala in the Star Wars prequel trilogy Don't158601:25:58.199 --> 01:26:02.880
Fall in Love with Anakins Jane.158701:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.920
Foster, No.158801:26:07.119 --> 01:26:10.920
Right, Oh my gosh, that was yeah anyway, Jane Foster158901:26:11.920 --> 01:26:16.119
Mighty Thor in Thor, Thor in the Dark World and159001:26:16.279 --> 01:26:21.000
Thor Love and Thunder and Evye in The Four Vendetta.159101:26:22.359 --> 01:26:25.800
But one of my favorite roles was that she got159201:26:25.840 --> 01:26:30.920
an Academy Award in the twenty ten film Black Swan.159301:26:31.319 --> 01:26:32.359
That was intense.159401:26:34.079 --> 01:26:34.920
Last, but not.159501:26:34.920 --> 01:26:38.640
Least, Happy birthday to Adrian barbo Is, the actress who159601:26:38.680 --> 01:26:43.760
played Senator Creetok in DS nine's seven season episode inter159701:26:44.119 --> 01:26:46.119
Arma Enim silent.159801:26:47.119 --> 01:26:51.439
Lyg like just thank you, ladies.159901:26:51.520 --> 01:26:56.560
I don't know, because became known for her work in160001:26:56.640 --> 01:27:00.000
horror films and science fiction films during their early nineth160101:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.960
teen eighties, she was in John Carpenter's The Fog, which160201:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.199
marked her film debut. She also had a role in160301:27:07.239 --> 01:27:13.319
Carpenter's Escape from New York. Horror genre's actress, sorry, horror160401:27:13.439 --> 01:27:17.039
genre actress, with a lead role in Swamp Thing. She160501:27:17.159 --> 01:27:20.439
was also in a really creepy episode of The X Files,160601:27:20.479 --> 01:27:23.800
as I recall, but I know her, and I meant160701:27:23.840 --> 01:27:25.880
to look up because I can't remember the name of160801:27:25.920 --> 01:27:30.640
the character. But she started out in the series of160901:27:30.880 --> 01:27:37.720
sitcom Maud as Maud's daughter. So all right, so now161001:27:37.760 --> 01:27:42.520
the flaming birthday candle gets hurled over to uncled him.161101:27:46.199 --> 01:27:58.880
Yeah, and she can.161201:28:02.439 --> 01:28:04.840
And you know what, she can dance. I saw her161301:28:04.920 --> 01:28:09.319
somewhere she was dancing, and she's incredible, so very very talented.161401:28:11.880 --> 01:28:29.319
Huh oh uh huh h h.161501:28:34.159 --> 01:28:34.560
M hmm.161601:28:45.079 --> 01:29:47.399
Dept of course no.161701:29:42.039 --> 01:30:10.560
Wolf cheese. Well yes, who.161801:30:19.840 --> 01:31:05.640
H yeah, h.161901:31:11.279 --> 01:31:24.760
Hh hh.162001:31:42.319 --> 01:32:00.479
Hh h m hm.162101:32:04.000 --> 01:32:19.479
Mm hmm nice yah h huhm m.162201:32:47.760 --> 01:32:48.760
Mm hmm. Yeah.162301:32:49.600 --> 01:32:51.680
Despite his crappy father.162401:32:55.479 --> 01:32:58.760
It's just you know, kids, Klingons have a weird like162501:32:59.000 --> 01:33:14.199
they do escape all right, well, yeah, I.162601:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.760
Mean I personally think Alexander is one of the like162701:33:17.760 --> 01:33:20.159
one of the characters who like they could have developed162801:33:20.199 --> 01:33:21.960
just a little bit more, because he does have a162901:33:22.119 --> 01:33:28.079
really really interesting backstory, right, and they kind of started163001:33:28.159 --> 01:33:29.960
to explore it a little bit, and then they just163101:33:30.079 --> 01:33:31.920
didn't really do enough with it. I would have loved163201:33:31.960 --> 01:33:34.479
to have seen a you know, a three or four163301:33:34.560 --> 01:33:36.800
episode arc where they're sort of dealing with this or163401:33:37.159 --> 01:33:39.319
or a few things spread over a couple of seasons163501:33:39.359 --> 01:33:45.920
where they're sort of dealing with those. Yeah, hmm, yeah,163601:33:50.479 --> 01:33:51.319
that was a good episode.163701:34:06.640 --> 01:34:07.720
You know, that's a tough one.163801:34:15.079 --> 01:34:15.479
Mm hmm.163901:34:18.840 --> 01:34:19.039
Yeah.164001:34:24.239 --> 01:34:26.600
I mean this is kind of well, it's it's what164101:34:26.760 --> 01:34:28.680
Worf does, right, I mean, he did the same thing164201:34:28.720 --> 01:34:29.319
with his brother.164301:34:31.359 --> 01:34:33.079
He the the.164401:34:34.560 --> 01:34:37.199
You you can never what you can never do is164501:34:37.239 --> 01:34:42.359
you can never judge Wharf against clingon ideals. You have164601:34:42.520 --> 01:34:47.039
to judge him against kind of the confluence of Starfleet164701:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.960
or like human you know, and cling on ideals. And164801:34:51.119 --> 01:34:52.880
he does live in both worlds. And I think that164901:34:53.000 --> 01:34:55.960
that's why his character is so compelling, because he's kind165001:34:56.000 --> 01:34:59.039
of screw up, right, and Warf is like classically one165101:34:59.039 --> 01:35:02.279
of the worst dads ever on Star Trek, right, Like165201:35:02.479 --> 01:35:06.079
he's he's just a terrible, terrible father and he can't165301:35:06.199 --> 01:35:08.319
just seem to get it right, but he keeps trying,165401:35:08.439 --> 01:35:11.319
and he keeps looking for different ways. Yeah. Yeah, so165501:35:11.439 --> 01:35:13.920
you can tell he's invested in his family and his165601:35:14.119 --> 01:35:16.600
son and you know Kayler when she comes around and165701:35:16.680 --> 01:35:20.439
like that kind of stuff. But uh, yeah, yeah, poor Alexander.165801:35:20.880 --> 01:35:24.199
Actually, well, jed z jed Zea had a I can't165901:35:24.279 --> 01:35:27.760
remember that. If it was, I can't remember it was166001:35:27.840 --> 01:35:30.399
in if it was in you Were Cordially Invited or166101:35:30.720 --> 01:35:32.960
which one. But she had a great line about him that,166201:35:33.720 --> 01:35:36.800
you know, he's a Klingon that was raised by humans,166301:35:36.920 --> 01:35:40.520
but he was like so into the whole. I think166401:35:40.560 --> 01:35:43.760
it was during their their you know, so wanting to166501:35:43.840 --> 01:35:47.159
be a traditional Klingon when they got married, and she166601:35:47.319 --> 01:35:51.079
thought that was kind of you know, ironic, I guess, but.166701:35:51.640 --> 01:35:54.600
Yeah, yeah, he didn't know kind of where to put166801:35:54.720 --> 01:35:58.399
his foot right, Like he he lived in both worlds,166901:35:58.439 --> 01:36:02.359
but he felt uncomfortable being a representative of both worlds.167001:36:02.399 --> 01:36:07.920
I don't know, i'd be great work to get Michael167101:36:08.000 --> 01:36:11.479
Dorn and just have like a whole wow, I would.167201:36:11.319 --> 01:36:17.119
Just be I think if he had no Well, Wolf's167301:36:17.159 --> 01:36:20.039
character was thrown back and forth between different things he167401:36:20.119 --> 01:36:23.039
really had no control over a lot of stuff, and167501:36:23.159 --> 01:36:27.279
then all of a sudden, when Alexander came along, his responsibilities,167601:36:27.399 --> 01:36:29.119
all of a sudden, he went guy high and he167701:36:29.239 --> 01:36:30.439
was like, I didn't know how to deal with it.167801:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.560
So it's like that's I guess we call bad dad.167901:36:33.880 --> 01:36:36.479
I guess, But I mean technically he technically he was168001:36:36.640 --> 01:36:40.640
learning so and as he loaned, you know, things happened.168101:36:40.520 --> 01:36:43.319
But he never got better. He only got worse.168201:36:44.680 --> 01:36:47.000
Because he made that decision in the in the show,168301:36:47.119 --> 01:36:49.680
he made that decision that he didn't want Alexander he168401:36:49.760 --> 01:36:50.840
sent him initially.168501:36:50.920 --> 01:36:54.199
I think he sho did the best that he could168601:36:55.079 --> 01:36:57.399
I guess, or what he thought he could do well.168701:36:57.439 --> 01:37:00.920
Because like Kaylar, that was part her fault because she168801:37:01.039 --> 01:37:04.840
did not want Alexander to be raised in the Klingon168901:37:04.920 --> 01:37:08.359
world because she was part She wasn't full Klingon either,169001:37:08.560 --> 01:37:11.560
so it was a whole there's a whole dynamic there.169101:37:11.760 --> 01:37:11.960
Yeah.169201:37:14.039 --> 01:37:16.359
So does that make Alexander a quarter human?169301:37:17.960 --> 01:37:18.359
I don't know.169401:37:21.199 --> 01:37:21.600
Happened?169501:37:21.760 --> 01:37:21.960
Yeah?169601:37:22.159 --> 01:37:27.880
No, no, because well no, I don't know Chris Warf169701:37:28.000 --> 01:37:28.960
was raised by human.169801:37:29.000 --> 01:37:29.319
I don't know.169901:37:29.439 --> 01:37:31.319
He's for schlub.170001:37:31.479 --> 01:37:36.079
Yeah, probably a quarter human.170101:37:51.960 --> 01:37:52.479
Mm hmmm.170201:37:53.479 --> 01:37:59.039
It just so happened that you chose this, Okay, I170301:37:59.159 --> 01:38:06.279
love it. A strange force has entered the galaxy. A170401:38:06.439 --> 01:38:08.640
future of mankind is at stake.170501:38:09.439 --> 01:38:14.159
It could only mean one thing. What's happened. I do170601:38:14.279 --> 01:38:16.399
not think you realize the gravity of your situation.170701:38:18.039 --> 01:38:19.960
The vacation is over.170801:38:22.600 --> 01:38:28.119
No, the crew of the starship Enterprise is taking adventure170901:38:28.600 --> 01:38:40.119
where it has never gone before. From the mind of171001:38:40.199 --> 01:38:41.720
a madman has.171101:38:41.560 --> 01:38:46.319
The force has taken control about this full ahead through171201:38:46.399 --> 01:38:49.359
the center of the galaxy. You know we'll never make171301:38:49.399 --> 01:38:52.079
it through the Great Barrier to the Final Frontier.171401:38:53.640 --> 01:38:54.199
Fascinating.171501:38:55.319 --> 01:39:00.199
How often have you done this? Actually it's my first attempt. Yes,171601:39:02.720 --> 01:39:04.039
you never see amaze.171701:39:05.960 --> 01:39:13.279
This is the oldest track of all speed far track five,171801:39:13.840 --> 01:39:15.439
the Final Frontier.171901:39:15.840 --> 01:39:18.560
This is got amazing. I nothing amazing about it.172001:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.359
I know this ship like the back of my hand.172101:39:29.840 --> 01:39:59.920
All right, mm hm of course, of course, of course.172201:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.720
And Jim, you know, since it's your you know this movie,172301:40:04.159 --> 01:40:10.119
uh introduces the concept of the Great Barrier, right, Like,172401:40:10.239 --> 01:40:13.239
we hadn't really heard about the Great Barrier before this movie.172501:40:13.800 --> 01:40:17.079
And so since this is your favorite Star Trek movie,172601:40:17.119 --> 01:40:20.560
I felt it was only fair to have one trivia172701:40:20.680 --> 01:40:25.520
question loaded and ready for you that you know doesn't172801:40:25.520 --> 01:40:28.000
have anything to do with sideboch or anything like that.172901:40:28.319 --> 01:40:33.159
But Jim, do you know what the difference between the173001:40:33.279 --> 01:40:37.640
galactic barrier and the Great Barrier are in Star Trek?173101:40:42.359 --> 01:40:42.479
Uh?173201:40:42.479 --> 01:40:56.319
Oh you are just switch them and you've totally got173301:40:56.399 --> 01:40:58.439
it right. The Galactic barrier is the one that wraps173401:40:58.479 --> 01:41:00.479
around the edge. The Great Barrier here is the one173501:41:00.520 --> 01:41:02.720
that's at the center of the galaxy.173601:41:03.159 --> 01:41:03.359
Yeah.173701:41:03.640 --> 01:41:04.640
Yeah, so there you go.173801:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.119
We we're m hm.173901:41:10.359 --> 01:41:47.680
Mm hmmm, we do and here it goes. It sounds174001:41:47.720 --> 01:41:48.840
like Galicia quest.174101:41:59.439 --> 01:42:03.159
Chaders say, is what? That's right? William Shantner says that174201:42:03.279 --> 01:42:07.119
he is taking care of business at ninety five. The174301:42:07.279 --> 01:42:13.159
least of all I want to do is die. That's right. Well,174401:42:14.359 --> 01:42:17.079
I mean I feel like that's isn't that true for174501:42:17.159 --> 01:42:20.279
all of us? But yes, William Shantner has no plans174601:42:20.319 --> 01:42:23.159
to slow down as he's getting older. The ninety five174701:42:23.239 --> 01:42:25.199
year old actor spoke about how he is able to174801:42:25.279 --> 01:42:28.199
keep going when so many others his age have already174901:42:28.319 --> 01:42:31.600
slowed down decades ago. He said, that's why they're old.175001:42:32.199 --> 01:42:35.760
Shatner's law is speed up, do more things and forget175101:42:35.800 --> 01:42:38.960
the pain. Take a pill. If it hurts. You get older,175201:42:39.079 --> 01:42:41.960
you hurt more. Two things. One is a weightlifter who175301:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.319
told me when I lift three four hundred pounds, it hurts.175401:42:45.560 --> 01:42:48.319
I've learned, he said, to make the hurt my friend.175501:42:49.039 --> 01:42:53.399
Welcome friend, the pain is here. Welcome. Shatner, who is175601:42:53.439 --> 01:42:57.239
preparing for his upcoming live stage show, The Universe Is Absurd,175701:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.880
went on to say that his advice old people would175801:43:00.880 --> 01:43:05.760
be to befriend and embrace the pain. The Star Trek175901:43:05.880 --> 01:43:08.680
actor then added that his second tip for those who176001:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.520
are aging is to never stop moving, explaining that if176101:43:11.560 --> 01:43:14.119
you stop moving, all you've got is the hurt. Ugh176201:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.680
Amen Brother. He explained that one of his passions is176301:43:17.760 --> 01:43:21.720
riding horses and competing in an equestrian event called raining,176401:43:21.840 --> 01:43:25.239
at which he described as very physical. He said, the176501:43:25.319 --> 01:43:28.039
older you get, the difficulty is really getting on the horse.176601:43:28.479 --> 01:43:30.279
You have a mounting block and you try to lift176701:43:30.319 --> 01:43:32.439
your leg up over it. He said, if I would176801:43:32.479 --> 01:43:35.279
have stopped that half my life would disappear. So I176901:43:35.359 --> 01:43:39.399
don't stop. I just go slower. Even after suffering an177001:43:39.439 --> 01:43:41.520
injury to his shoulder during a fall off his horse,177101:43:41.880 --> 01:43:45.319
Shatner continues to ride and will be hosting the annual177201:43:45.439 --> 01:43:49.239
William Shatner's Hollywood Charity Horse Show later this month. His177301:43:49.399 --> 01:43:53.000
busy schedule also includes his upcoming live show, The Universe's177401:43:53.479 --> 01:43:57.239
The Universe Is Absurd, which is a live, unscripted stage177501:43:57.239 --> 01:44:01.479
show with astrophysicist Neil Degrass Tyson that will explore cosmic177601:44:01.560 --> 01:44:06.600
themes through banter and storytelling that sounds lovely. The show177701:44:06.680 --> 01:44:09.760
is scheduled for May nineteenth and twentieth at this Saban177801:44:09.920 --> 01:44:14.199
Theater in Beverly Hills. Tyson and Shattner first connected when177901:44:14.239 --> 01:44:17.520
recording an audiobook, which eventually led to twenty hours of178001:44:17.600 --> 01:44:20.840
conversation between the two of them. Shatner said, I had178101:44:20.880 --> 01:44:22.840
to spend two days, ten hours a day talking to178201:44:22.960 --> 01:44:25.640
a wonderful man who has become a good friend of mine. Now,178301:44:25.720 --> 01:44:28.720
he said, those twenty hours have given us a foothold178401:44:28.840 --> 01:44:32.239
into conversation, and that's what we'll have on stage. But178501:44:32.399 --> 01:44:34.720
in order for it to have energy, I'll have to178601:44:34.840 --> 01:44:39.479
disagree with him on many points, if not all. I178701:44:39.640 --> 01:44:43.680
love that the universe is this way, I disagree. The178801:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.479
worst thing that can happen to the show in Shantner's178901:44:46.520 --> 01:44:49.800
opinion is that the audience walks out, we walk on,179001:44:50.159 --> 01:44:51.960
and they give up and leave. In terms of what's179101:44:52.039 --> 01:44:54.520
next for him, the Boston legal star explained that he179201:44:54.600 --> 01:44:57.439
doesn't have a bucket list, but wants to continue doing179301:44:57.520 --> 01:45:00.399
the things he treasure treasures, such as spending time with179401:45:00.520 --> 01:45:04.000
his dogs, riding horses with his wife, and visiting his179501:45:04.199 --> 01:45:07.960
favorite coffee shops. He said, I'm busy, and I'm vital,179601:45:08.199 --> 01:45:10.319
and I'm riding horses, and I'm taking care of business.179701:45:10.640 --> 01:45:12.359
And i just sold a horse. He said, I did179801:45:12.439 --> 01:45:15.520
a job on Friday and Saturday. I'm busy doing concrete,179901:45:15.800 --> 01:45:18.720
valuable things. I don't want to go anywhere. The least180001:45:18.760 --> 01:45:23.479
of all I want to do is die. Wow, Bill,180101:45:23.680 --> 01:45:27.439
you just like continue to have the most awesome sections180201:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.000
of our news segment here. I love it that you180301:45:30.119 --> 01:45:33.199
are ninety five years old, brother, and you're just clocking180401:45:33.359 --> 01:45:35.600
on like nothing's going on. So that's fantastic.180501:45:36.399 --> 01:45:36.720
I love it.180601:45:43.800 --> 01:45:54.800
M all right. I mean that's actually true. That's exactly what.180701:45:55.720 --> 01:45:57.319
Because of horses.180801:45:58.880 --> 01:46:00.399
Yeah, I'm not in brace sing it.180901:46:00.560 --> 01:46:04.000
It sucks, man, I'm sitting there right now.181001:46:04.119 --> 01:46:05.079
My Yeah.181101:46:05.960 --> 01:46:08.800
You know, when you become a have a first name181201:46:08.840 --> 01:46:12.000
basis with the people at the er in the town181301:46:12.079 --> 01:46:13.279
where your horse farm is.181401:46:13.399 --> 01:46:20.600
Yeah, you know, yeah, hmm, yeah, he.181501:46:20.680 --> 01:46:27.439
Can have it, take it, take it, and I will181601:46:27.520 --> 01:46:29.960
barrel racing. I used to do barrel racing.181701:46:29.840 --> 01:46:32.239
And pole bending, so I will.181801:46:32.439 --> 01:46:32.640
Yeah.181901:46:32.880 --> 01:46:35.920
That was yeah, that was something I never fell off,182001:46:36.039 --> 01:46:37.720
So that was a good thing. It was all the182101:46:37.760 --> 01:46:41.680
other stuff I did that like hurt me so anyway,182201:46:42.159 --> 01:47:03.840
but good for him. In ninety five, yep, right, con.182301:47:05.439 --> 01:47:08.680
The Musical is coming to start trek Las Vegas twenty182401:47:08.800 --> 01:47:11.760
twenty six and a community theater near you.182501:47:13.039 --> 01:47:16.399
Three years ago, Con the Musical a parody.182601:47:17.800 --> 01:47:22.760
Srectacular, debating off Broadway at The Player's Theater, Nework to182701:47:22.840 --> 01:47:28.039
great reviews. Since then, producer Brent Black has released the182801:47:28.159 --> 01:47:31.239
cast album has now begun licensing the show for use182901:47:31.319 --> 01:47:35.520
in community theaters, high schools, and colleges, and anyone wanting183001:47:35.600 --> 01:47:40.479
to truck up their local local musical theater scenes. He's183101:47:40.520 --> 01:47:44.760
also bringing Han to a number of truck conventions this summer.183201:47:45.520 --> 01:47:49.960
Han the Musical is heading to some conventions this summer.183301:47:50.039 --> 01:47:55.159
I'm absolutely pumped to have been asked. It really feels183401:47:55.359 --> 01:47:58.960
the show's leveled up said Black about the convention events.183501:47:59.680 --> 01:48:03.840
First up, we trek Long Island June twelfth and.183601:48:06.800 --> 01:48:11.199
What's that sitting, Jim, That's hot Pog hop Hoog, New York.183701:48:12.560 --> 01:48:14.520
There will be a short performance along with the Q183801:48:14.680 --> 01:48:17.359
and a session with a handful of former off Broadway183901:48:17.439 --> 01:48:21.479
cast members, and later in June's starting the twenty fifth184001:48:21.640 --> 01:48:24.920
con we'll have a quick appearance in the booth at184101:48:24.960 --> 01:48:29.199
the Trek Fest at Riverside, Iowa, which prides this up184201:48:29.279 --> 01:48:31.439
in being the future bird place of James T.184301:48:31.680 --> 01:48:31.920
Kirk.184401:48:32.720 --> 01:48:35.520
In August, the musical is heading the Las Vegas, Las184501:48:35.640 --> 01:48:37.359
Vegas for Star Trek Las Vegas.184601:48:37.840 --> 01:48:39.279
The team has been given a.184701:48:39.560 --> 01:48:46.159
Panel slot on the Inaugura's Trespert stage. Perfeman for the musical,184801:48:48.039 --> 01:48:50.800
Brett Black and a few veteran cast members will be184901:48:50.880 --> 01:48:54.039
doing what he describes as a short mini concert of185001:48:54.199 --> 01:48:56.199
songs from the show along with the Q and A.185101:48:57.359 --> 01:49:01.880
The Star Trek Las Vegas brewers will include Laura Wittenberger,185201:49:02.439 --> 01:49:09.319
who has played Sabag and multiple multiple productions of Cheyenne Schiaporn,185301:49:09.800 --> 01:49:18.760
uh Fira Kulstit, who played Admiral Kirk off Broadway STLV185401:49:19.359 --> 01:49:23.920
Khan perform and panel will be Thursday, August sixth. Musical185501:49:24.000 --> 01:49:27.199
team will also be running a booth all weekend at185601:49:27.239 --> 01:49:30.319
the Star Trek Las Vegas Banding Rooms. To be one185701:49:30.359 --> 01:49:33.279
of those shows, if you don't see see it live,185801:49:33.800 --> 01:49:37.359
you simply don't believe what you read about it, black185901:49:37.439 --> 01:49:40.960
and used like you think. Of course, a Trekky would186001:49:41.000 --> 01:49:44.119
say that there's something magical to show that. If you186101:49:44.159 --> 01:49:47.119
don't see it, it's hard to believe there's more than186201:49:47.199 --> 01:49:49.199
just a cute little star trek parody.186301:49:51.800 --> 01:49:52.479
And too Bad.186401:49:52.520 --> 01:49:56.079
I will be on this, Yeah, I wish, I wish186501:49:56.159 --> 01:49:58.600
we there would be. I mean, I'm glad to hear186601:49:58.680 --> 01:50:01.720
that they're licensing this to local theaters, because I swear186701:50:01.720 --> 01:50:03.760
to God, if this comes to a local community theater186801:50:03.840 --> 01:50:07.239
around me, I'm there every single night. It looks amazing.186901:50:07.439 --> 01:50:11.000
I'm I'm looking at them now and just looking at187001:50:11.039 --> 01:50:14.119
the main character. So Data, I mean they've got Data187101:50:14.359 --> 01:50:19.439
and Kirk and Savik and Bones, McCoy and Scotty and187201:50:19.520 --> 01:50:24.600
O'Hara and doctor Carol, Marcus and Sulu and Chekhov. So187301:50:24.840 --> 01:50:27.720
they're playing multiple roles. Yeah, we got a community theater.187401:50:27.760 --> 01:50:30.279
I wonder iful I could get them to do this,187501:50:31.399 --> 01:50:33.399
that would be great, Okay, cool.187601:50:35.680 --> 01:50:38.720
I mean it has a sorry I was just going187701:50:38.760 --> 01:50:43.319
to say it has a slight air of a local187801:50:43.479 --> 01:50:46.439
theater troupe that we have here. We have a local187901:50:46.520 --> 01:50:49.479
theater troup called the USS Improvise and they perform at188001:50:49.479 --> 01:50:52.439
a place called the Funhouse Lounge. And it's basically like188101:50:53.119 --> 01:50:56.239
Star Trek improv. So you go for a night and188201:50:56.359 --> 01:50:58.680
you have a table and you know, they do all188301:50:58.760 --> 01:51:01.119
the regular improv stuff, but you have your data as188401:51:01.159 --> 01:51:03.159
you have your Rikers, you have your Troy, you know,188501:51:03.239 --> 01:51:06.720
have your crushers, you know, and many people play multiple188601:51:06.840 --> 01:51:09.119
roles throughout the thing just by switching out a silly188701:51:09.199 --> 01:51:11.159
wig or whatever. I mean, it's so amazing.188801:51:11.359 --> 01:51:12.119
Yeah, so this.188901:51:12.199 --> 01:51:18.520
Feels like that, Yes, yeah, yeah, totally.189001:51:21.239 --> 01:51:26.600
It's a it's a it's a track long Island. Tomorrow, Jim,189101:51:26.720 --> 01:51:29.199
you can go run up run up State New York189201:51:29.239 --> 01:51:29.840
and go see it.189301:51:30.600 --> 01:51:39.520
You're right there. Yeah, m hm mm hmm. Oh wow189401:51:40.239 --> 01:51:42.119
yeah mm hmm.189501:51:44.479 --> 01:51:46.159
She was what a sweetheart.189601:51:46.319 --> 01:51:49.560
Yes, yeah, it's fine.189701:51:52.439 --> 01:51:58.600
H yeah, if we know to me, yeah we got189801:51:58.640 --> 01:52:00.239
you mm hmmm.189901:52:08.600 --> 01:52:09.000
Mm hm.190001:52:14.000 --> 01:52:14.279
M h.190101:52:17.079 --> 01:52:17.399
M hm.190201:52:18.119 --> 01:52:22.159
Yes, thank you for turning what was an absolute crap190301:52:22.319 --> 01:52:27.399
day into a fun evening. So as always, you know,190401:52:28.359 --> 01:52:28.960
mm hmm.190501:52:33.720 --> 01:52:35.680
I won't yeah we we uh.190601:52:35.680 --> 01:52:38.239
Oh, you're out for this fabulous yes.190701:52:44.960 --> 01:52:59.880
Oh mhm sarcastic sarcastic Balkan salute.190801:53:02.840 --> 01:53:07.199
And then I like to say this, yeah, doing this sircast.190901:53:08.359 --> 01:53:12.680
Like flapping, I'm emulating Mariner.191001:53:13.039 --> 01:53:13.239
Yeah.191101:53:20.000 --> 01:53:22.359
H absolutely that was a super fun show.191201:53:26.920 --> 01:53:40.479
Yeah, goodbye bye a long and prosper prospering along.191301:53:42.760 --> 01:53:43.439
Let's fly