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Oct. 2, 2026

Episode 702 - SNW season 4 finale - Uhura's Journey: A Character Study

Episode 702 - SNW season 4 finale - Uhura's Journey: A Character Study
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In this episode of Trek Talkin' and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the hosts engage in lively discussions about the latest episode of Strange New Worlds, share fan shout-outs, and analyze character preferences through polls. The camaraderie among the hosts and their enthusiasm for Star Trek create an engaging atmosphere for listeners. In this episode, the hosts discuss the evolution of Starfleet crew dynamics, focusing on the USS Shakeree and its crew members. They delve into character development, particularly Uhura and Scotty, and explore the emotional themes surrounding time travel in Star Trek. The conversation also includes fan reactions and ratings, highlighting nostalgia and character relationships, culminating in a collective assessment of the episode's quality. In this episode, the hosts delve into the character development of Uhura and her emotional journey, particularly in relation to Pike. They discuss the narrative techniques used in the episode, including the exploration of time travel and its implications on character decisions. The conversation highlights the performances of the cast, especially Ethan Peck's portrayal of Spock, and reflects on fan reactions and ratings for the episode. The discussion wraps up with a celebration of notable birthdays within the Star Trek universe, emphasizing the legacy of the franchise. In this episode, the hosts celebrate iconic performances in voice acting, particularly Mark Hamill's role as the Joker. They discuss the representation of strong female characters in media, share birthday wishes for notable figures in entertainment, and recommend classic films. The conversation also reflects on the legacy of Star Trek Enterprise and the exciting crossover between Star Trek and Magic: The Gathering.
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Things she has to do.

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Continue with the operation.

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You may fire when ready.

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Old Pops and War Stories, Dental Kiss and Turn, Baltar, Scimitar,

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Death of Tasha Young, Flash, Gordon.

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Roger, Stormtroopers and Clone.

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Wars, James, Walton, Tweed, Keeney, John.

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Koenig, and Swayze.

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Can we talk about the series?

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You can join us.

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Live by picking up your phone now. Can we talk.

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About the series? We're coming to you on your human

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services now.

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Can we talk about the series? Comics, books, and games,

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we probably almost know now.

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I mean, what about the series?

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Cummings on the set, we take and chat, and we

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go on and on.

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Well, good evening, Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe. It

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is Thursday, October 1st, 2026. Welcome to episode 702 of

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Trek Talkin' and Beyond. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim.

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And before we dive into the excitement, the sheer titillation,

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which is Trek talking, I would like to introduce my

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awesome Trek experts. And we're going to go out to

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Portland and we're going to say hello to Eric. How

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are you doing tonight, Eric?

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I am doing quite well, Jim. Thank you for asking.

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It's very exciting to have some new people who I'm

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sure you will introduce in a moment with us tonight.

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And I'm just really freaking excited about talking about this episode, too. Uh,

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I will admit that, um, I had a very busy

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week and I literally finished watching this episode at like

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three 45 this afternoon. It's about four 30 right now.

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So maybe four, 45 minutes ago or so. Um, and

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so it's very fresh in my mind. So very excited.

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We like it. We like it fresh, right? Better fresh

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than stale. And let's swing out to Las Vegas and

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welcome Charles to the show. How are you doing, Charles?

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I'm doing good. You notice the rain's gone, the heat

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wave's back, though it's only going to be 90s. But

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the weather forecaster just said, oh, this weekend it's going

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to be hotter in L.A. than it is Las Vegas. Like, okay, L.A.

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is going to melt.

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Palm trees. Palm trees. The palm trees in L.A.

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Might wilt a little.

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And I was going to say, palm trees are, of course,

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native to neither Las Vegas nor L.A.

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Exactly. Neither are the scorpions that come from the ones

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in Arizona.

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And we're going to swing out to Virginia. We're going

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to welcome V to the podcast. How are you doing tonight, V?

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Doing all right. New technology. I am not pleased, however,

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with our weather. We were having... Lovely fall weather. And

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then today it was like 85. Tomorrow it's supposed to

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be 90.

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No, this weather can go away. I need the cool,

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crisp fall.

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It'll be winter soon. We'll be buried in snow and

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everything will be good. Oh, boy. And now we're going

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to swing out back out to Portland to the miracle

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worker himself, David. Welcome to the show, David.

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Hey, I'm doing great.

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You're doing good. All right. Wait, how am I doing?

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I don't know. Paul is still out in Scotland.

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Jim, it's pronounced Scotland.

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Scotland. Scotland. And that's where Paul is. Or is he

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somewhere else? Has he moved?

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No, well, he's actually moved on. I'm pretty sure he's

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in perhaps London somewhere. Right now, definitely.

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I've got to watch out for the werewolves that run around.

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Yeah.

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Lots of werewolves in London. But we do have a

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very special, special guest that's going to fill the shoes

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of Paul. We have Whitney with us today. And Whitney

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happens to be in my home state of Vermont. So

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welcome to the show, Whitney.

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Good to be here.

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And as a new truck sport, though, there is a ceremony.

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You have to name all the characters and shows that

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were on an opening sequence.

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I'm sorry, what?

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How much time do we have?

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Yeah, at the very end, just say.

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You saw the dancing skeletons. Because that's what.

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I thought they were for the longest time.

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Yeah.

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Okay, were those from Star Wars?

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Yes.

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But I, for some reason, saw skeletons.

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Yeah, I just saw Star Wars.

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And I just, I don't know if you guys noticed

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this or not, but Brian Volkweis, who we had as

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a guest on a podcast a couple of weeks ago,

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just released a new update on his toy line, and

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He must have done it right after he did our

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show because he mentioned Billy Joel's We Didn't Start the Fire.

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Did you guys catch that? I did.

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I actually thought that was super cool, especially because he

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particularly said that he liked that opening song and made

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comments about it. And then he referenced it later. I

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thought that was really cool.

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That was really cool. So I don't know if you

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guys caught that, but I definitely did. So I'm going

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to try to get him back on the show later on.

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We can talk to him for a little bit longer

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because he was a lot of fun.

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I mean, he was a great guest because he's kind

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of like this weird, you don't see a lot of

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guys who are just entrepreneurs out there doing their own thing,

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and they have presumably enough of their own capital or

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their friends or whatever to just do their own thing.

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And we talked about how he was able to expand

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people's access to these weird characters in toy form because

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he just kind of had a feeling that people would

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want them, and then they did. which I just thought

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was really cool. It was like, to me, to me,

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that's more of like a, you know, kind of like

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American dream story where somebody like comes up with this

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thing and they're like, you know what, if we build it,

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they will come. And then he did it. And he

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did exactly that.

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Yeah.

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And I didn't get.

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To ask him about the sexy cyborg though.

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I was, yeah. Thank you.

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We're waiting for that.

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Right. Yes.

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I was waiting for that.

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Absolutely.

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Oh my word.

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Yeah.

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And we do have some people in chat. So hello

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to everybody in chat that's watching. So anyways, guys, Brian

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Volkweis did reference our theme song, which I think is

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way cool. If you guys would like to help support

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On tonight's show, we're going to talk about The Strange

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New World, Season 4, Episode 9, Tomorrow's Enterprise. I'm sorry,

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Episode 10, Tomorrow's Enterprise. This was the season finale. We

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only have six more episodes to go, so we have

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that to look forward to. We also have our fan shout-outs,

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and that's where we thank fans just like you for

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supporting our podcast all around the globe. Charles is going

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to have his cadet review for us about this episode.

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We have our fan reactions and our fan scores as well,

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just like we do every week. And you can find

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out what actor you share a birthday with on our

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Sci-Fi Birthdays. And of course, Uncle Jim's Movie Pick of

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the Week. And last but not least, what's going on

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around the Star Trek universe? We have a giant Enterprise dice.

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And speaking of Enterprise, Enterprise turned 25 years old this year.

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So without any further ado, let's dive into some fan shoutouts.

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And we're going to start off with Eric, as usual.

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Take it away, Eric.

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You know what? Jim, don't you think we have to

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come up with a fan shout-out song now? It's got

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to be like, fan shout-outs, fan shout-outs.

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Yeah, David and I were kind of, you know, maybe

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we'll get Whitney to sing something. You know?

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She's like, nope. Oh, no, no, no.

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Trust me, you do not want that.

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If you value your glasses, your windows.

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I've heard Whitney sing on the intercom at school, so

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I know that she can do it.

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That was rap.

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That was rap, Jim.

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Well, we can do a rap song. Fan. Shout outs.

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There you go.

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If you guys can write a parody to Weird Al's parodies,

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I'll be happy to do a rap version.

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Are you a Weird Al fan?

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Yeah.

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Me too. I got to meet him. I met him

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finally last year.

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He's awesome.

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He's fantastic.

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Oh, that's good.

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He is great.

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You know what I think this calls for, V?

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What?

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I think this calls for a girl nod.

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Yeah, girl nod. You asked someone you can girl nod

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with now.

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I don't even, how did we get the guy nod?

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I don't even remember.

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This week goes out to Mr. Stephen Jones, who's in Chester, England,

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representing from that most amazing of aisles. Thank you so much, Steve,

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for supporting our podcast and for checking in with us

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on our socials. We really appreciate that. Also saying hello

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this week to Rachel Carr, who hails from Dublin, Ireland.

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I know if Paul were here, he would hail the

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various virtues of Ireland. He loves that place. Rachel, I've

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never been there, but I hope to go one day

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and hopefully you enjoy living there in Dublin and supporting

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our podcast. Also saying hello this week to Henk-Jan van

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der Leij, who lives in the Netherlands. And I always

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like to talk about the Netherlands because did you know

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that more than 50% of the Netherlands is actually below

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sea level? So they are on the forefront of technology

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in terms of retaining the ocean. And like, think water world. Yeah,

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I believe the Netherlands will actually rule the world in

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the future. But that's just my personal thoughts.

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Thanks, Hank Jan. Educational as well.

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Well, there you go. Thank you, Hank Jan, for supporting

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our podcast. And last but not least, I'd like to

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say hello on my list to Klaus Kuningbauer, who hails

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from Franconia region in Deutschland. And he's sending us that

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beautiful live long and prosper hand. Klaus, thank you so

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much for saying hello to us. We do get a

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ton of support from right there in the middle of Europe,

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in the beautiful country of Germany, and we appreciate yours

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as well. What do you say we talk about Texas?

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I think we should because this one goes out to

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David Hammond from Texas. So he is Hammond of Texas

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for my Stargate fans.

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Yes, thank you. And thank you, V, for getting me

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into that show.

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Yeah.

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And next up, a big hello goes out to somebody

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who sounds like an interesting guy. We have Rick Kahuna Nesbitt.

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So he's the big kahuna in Louisiana. So thank you, Rick. Next,

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we have a hello going out to Rachel Ashworth from Spokane, Washington.

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So on your side of the planet, so to speak.

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And last but not least, Mike Wine from Paragould, Arkansas.

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So hello and thank you to all of you. Now

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I'm throwing the, what is it, the flaming microphone over to,

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I don't know.

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I love how every week is just a little different.

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You're welcome. You're welcome. Yeah, going to Charles.

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Grabbing my engineering gloves, because I'm not sure how hot

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this thing is. Let's start off with somebody who was

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born and raised in Florida. Welcome Thomas Young, who gives

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us the live long and prosper sign. Welcome Steven P.

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Brown from Chicago, Illinois. Welcome Steven. Welcome Jim Blair from Alabama,

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who loves our podcast. Great to hear it, Jim. And

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Russell Branhofer from Fishers, Indiana. Welcome, Russell. Now I'll send

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this flaming microphone megaphone with gloves over the gym.

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You know, it doesn't have to be flaming if it's

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not a birthday, guys.

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Why not? Why not? What's this card man doing? Yeah,

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we'll flame on. I want to.

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Central Texas. I wonder if he knows the Big Kahuna.

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I wonder. Oh, that was the Hammond.

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The Hammond. Yes, he's. He's the Kahuna Nesbitt. And last

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meeting Freddy Krueger. What a great guy he was, I'm

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So, David, you want to put up the polling picture?

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Do you have that? So before we do our poll results, though,

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this with our fan score. So I thought we would

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do this with our polls as well. So, uh, Eric,

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on your ship, if you were the captain of the

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USS Chattari, who would you choose as your first officer

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of the nine?

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Uh, who would I choose?

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Yeah.

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Who would you pick as your CMO?

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Well, Jim, I want to see how we line up

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with our, Well, Jim, this is perhaps my favorite poll

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that we've ever done because it allows me to express

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my absolute and utter love of Catherine Pulaski, perhaps one

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of the best and most underrated doctors of all time

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in Star Trek. I freaking love Catherine Pulaski. I love

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that she has one of the best character arcs of

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all time where she goes from basically being a racist

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to enjoying tea with Worf. And come on, Diana Mulder,

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are you kidding me? So my number one choice for

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doctor this week is Catherine Pulaski. I will say that

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that's mostly on principle. I do love me some Pulaski.

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I absolutely do. I would also like to throw an

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honorable mention towards Dr. Hugh Culber. who was a breath

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of fresh air and I think a different kind of

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doctor who had a little less snark and a lot

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more empathy. And I really enjoyed his performance as well.

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So I'm going to go Catherine Pulaski. But like, if

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I get a second vote, Hugh Colbert on the side.

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So, Eric, you read my mind because I would go

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with Dr. Colbert every time. And my reason for going

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with Colbert is because I felt that he was more

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like he was a doctor and a ship's counselor. Yeah.

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He kind of, he kind of did it all. And, um, I,

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you know, plus he was a husband and a father,

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not a father, um, an adopted father, I guess is

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the word. Um, so I really liked, I really liked

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that he was able to handle the family, the ship,

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the crew, his own death and coming back. I just

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felt that, you know, he, He was a very well-rounded doctor,

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and I would put him on my ship as chief

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medical officer. Charles, you get the same question. Of the nine,

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who would you pick?

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Well, my first choice would be the EMH because you

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have a doctor who can be on call at any

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time and can be coming up with new medical techniques anytime.

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Go through, read the computer, download it, and have a

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new medical technique for something new that we hadn't heard

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of before. Button. my second choice would probably be Beverly Crusher.

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She definitely had a good bedside manner and definitely worked

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well with her patients.

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Same question for you, David. You're the captain of the

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USS Chaparri. You have to pick... your chief medical officer,

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who are you going to pick?

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Well, I gave it a heavy thought and my very

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first number one would be Dr.

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Phlox.

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I like how unorthodox he was with a lot of

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his methods and just experiencing the frontier itself, you know,

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made me think that he knows his stuff. And if

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I had to pick a second, I would definitely be

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a toss-up between either the inmates or Dr.

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Bashir.

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And mainly because like what Charles was saying he's just

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anytime shows up but I chose him as both Dr.

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Bashir and the EMA because Dr. Bashir even though he

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was genetically engineered he pretty much knew his stuff too

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and he seems like the kind of guy that you

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would trust along with the EMA to do any kind

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of procedures or surgery that you need because of how

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steady their hand can be so yeah.

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Did I ever tell you guys the Wesley Crusher, Will Wheaton, Dr.

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Bashir story? Did I share that with you guys? No? Maybe?

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But I'm sure you're going to anyway.

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I am going to anyways. So back in 1992, I

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was doing a Star Trek convention in Albany, and he

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was one of our guests. And my wife and I

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went to pick him up in the limo, and the

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first rule is you don't talk Star Trek with him.

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That's their job. Stand by me or anything else is cool,

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but stay away from Star Trek. And then he jumps

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in the limo. And the first thing he says to

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me and my wife is, don't you think that Dr.

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Bashir is a giant gland? And right off the bat,

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we're like, I like this guy. And we talked about

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Star Trek the whole time. Will Wheaton is by far

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the coolest dude. So that's my Dr. Bashir, Will Wheaton story.

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He thinks that Dr. Bashir is nothing but a giant gland.

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So there you have it. All right, V, so you're

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the captain of the USS Chapari. And who are you

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going to pick as your chief medical officer?

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Well, I did this poll and I chose the EMH

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because for the same reasons that Charles mentioned, because he's

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on call, he's never going to be tired anymore. And

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he has, I think, the whole database, data, data. What's

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the difference, huh?

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You know what? She figures that out, too.

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I know.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, that's why I said that. That's why I said that.

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But you know who you didn't put on here, who

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would be my second choice, just because she's freaking hilarious,

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is Dr. Ta'ana from Lower Decks.

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Because you get some really hilarious.

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I know.

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You know, she's the one who she's the one who

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gave us. Well, technically, she didn't. But one of my favorite.

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One of my favorite.

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About.

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Never mind. Yeah. You know which one I'm talking about.

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I think I do.

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They eat a bag of board.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I didn't know Dr.

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Tawana came in here. Yeah. Anyway.

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I saved the best for last. So Whitney got to

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hear everybody else's thoughts. So Whitney, you're the captain of

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the USS Shaqari. You're picking your crew. You got to

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choose your chief medical officer. Who are you going to pick?

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Being an IT person, I'm going to have to go

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with a doctor just because of all the other reasons mentioned.

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And also because, um, His sense of humor. I happen

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to like snark. And him and Bones, you know, they

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just have all the snark.

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They're awesome. But Crusher would be.

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A close third.

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We heard what the truck spurts think and what we thought.

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Now let's see how close we were to our Facebook fans.

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So Eric, what did our Facebook fans have to say

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and how close were we to them?

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Well, in our number nine spot, we had Hugh Culber

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with only 2% of the vote. So both Jim's number

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one vote and my number two vote came in last

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in this poll. And perhaps that's just not enough people

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have been exposed to the amazingness of Hugh Culber and

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the fact that I think he's really the only doctor

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that fits into the 21st century thing here. You know,

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even though he's in the 20-whatever century. All right. In

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number eight, we have Dr. Boyce with three percent of

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the vote. And I always well, always I wonder about this.

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We show, of course, the picture of original Dr. Boyce,

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which as far as I know, just has like a

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case of martinis that he walks around and offers people

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on the Enterprise. but new boys seems to actually have

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lines and things that he's talking about. So I don't know.

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We were, you know, I'm not sure which boys people

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are thinking of here, but he came in number eight

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with only 3% of the vote.

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It amazed me that more people picked martini drinking boys

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over Colbert. It just blows my mind.

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I mean, you know, it's hard. Like when your doctor

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shows up and opens up that case, man, and you're

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just like, man, you know, I mean, that's got legs. Yeah.

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And he knows how to use them.

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He sure does, yes.

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I see what you did there.

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I just dated myself. What can I say? Oh, my gosh.

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All right. I'm going to get my slowly guitar now

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and leave.

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All right. In our number seven spot for this poll,

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we have Dr. M. Banga, also represented by two different actors. But,

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of course, only one episode for the other guy whose

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name I just blanked on. And... We have our current Dr.

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Mbinga.

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So 5% of the vote for Dr.

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Mbinga.

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Thanks for that. In sixth place, we have Dr.

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Bashir.

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I believe David's choice there, right behind the EMH, with

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9% of the vote. So we're getting up there. In

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the number five spot, guess who, you guys? Dr. Pulaski.

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That's right.

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10% of the vote.

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That's actually way more than I thought she was going

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to get. So thank you for the four or five

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people who answered our poll for Dr. Pulaski. In our

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number four spot, we have Dr.

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Phlox.

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Dr. Phlox. You know what?

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I will say, David, of all these doctors, Dr. Phlox

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by far has the biggest and best smile. Am I wrong?

478
00:27:00.369 --> 00:27:01.650
Yeah. 13% of the vote for Dr. Phlox.

479
00:27:04.619 --> 00:27:08.400
So thanks for that. In the number three spot, this

480
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.680
actually kind of surprises me. I thought they were going

481
00:27:12.700 --> 00:27:14.859
to be in the number two spot, but we have Dr.

482
00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:15.299
Crusher.

483
00:27:16.099 --> 00:27:16.359
Dr.

484
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:19.299
Beverly Crusher with only 15% of the vote in the

485
00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:22.579
number three spot. In the number two spot.

486
00:27:23.660 --> 00:27:26.240
I was going to say, she lost points because of

487
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.710
the sexy ghost thing.

488
00:27:30.250 --> 00:27:30.809
The candle thing.

489
00:27:31.509 --> 00:27:32.630
You know what you have to do is you have

490
00:27:32.670 --> 00:27:35.390
to take all Beverly Crusher things and multiply them by

491
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.700
seven sixths because she didn't actually get a full seven seasons. Right.

492
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:41.799
So you have to like you have to take whatever

493
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.019
your opinion is of Dr. Crusher and multiply by seven six,

494
00:27:45.660 --> 00:27:48.190
which automatically just kind of makes it just a little

495
00:27:48.230 --> 00:27:52.420
bit better. That's solid math right there.

496
00:27:52.460 --> 00:27:53.220
Yes, it is.

497
00:27:53.420 --> 00:27:53.960
Yeah, that's why.

498
00:27:53.980 --> 00:27:55.099
I mean, come on, guys.

499
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.579
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the math is right on that.

500
00:27:57.980 --> 00:27:58.240
All right.

501
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.640
And in our number two spot, we have, I believe,

502
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:05.079
the number one choice amongst Trexperts, the EMH.

503
00:28:05.140 --> 00:28:05.500
That's right.

504
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.420
The guy... that apparently most of you like because he

505
00:28:08.460 --> 00:28:10.619
can work 24 hours a day, so you just really

506
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.819
want a slave to do whatever you want for 24

507
00:28:12.819 --> 00:28:14.500
hours a day all the time.

508
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:15.759
Wait a second. Hold on.

509
00:28:15.779 --> 00:28:19.720
You have exposed yourselves. I see what kind of doctor

510
00:28:19.740 --> 00:28:20.619
you want on this ship.

511
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:21.380
I get it.

512
00:28:21.460 --> 00:28:22.180
Oh, yeah.

513
00:28:22.569 --> 00:28:26.549
It's coming to get you.

514
00:28:28.420 --> 00:28:31.029
He did get, however, 24% of the votes. So that

515
00:28:31.049 --> 00:28:34.049
was actually like almost number one on our list. And I,

516
00:28:34.150 --> 00:28:36.829
you know, I, of course I'm kidding. The EMH is amazing.

517
00:28:37.750 --> 00:28:40.289
He goes through an amazing character arc over the whole

518
00:28:40.829 --> 00:28:43.640
seven seasons of Voyager. He's one of my favorites as well.

519
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.380
And Robert Picardo, of course, is one of the coolest,

520
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.920
like most fun actors that we still have with us

521
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:50.660
from the Star Trek franchise.

522
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:52.740
And don't forget the name that he chose for himself.

523
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:53.180
Yeah.

524
00:28:54.210 --> 00:28:57.630
Well, did he ultimately choose that, though? Was that where

525
00:28:57.670 --> 00:28:59.190
he ended up?

526
00:28:59.930 --> 00:29:01.950
That's in Endgame.

527
00:29:01.970 --> 00:29:04.420
Yeah, the last episode of Voyager.

528
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:05.220
Yeah.

529
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:11.440
And it was for his wife's, because he has a wife,

530
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.339
and it was her father or grandfather, something like that.

531
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:16.019
Something like that, yeah.

532
00:29:17.460 --> 00:29:19.980
And don't forget, Eric, that he has a daughter, too,

533
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:21.119
on Starfleet Academy.

534
00:29:21.650 --> 00:29:24.769
He sure does. And those were some really cool episodes

535
00:29:24.869 --> 00:29:28.819
that I think we all really enjoyed. It was so

536
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.640
fun to have him back as a character on Starfleet Academy.

537
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:35.119
So yeah, yeah, no surprise. He's in that number two spot,

538
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:41.009
24% of the vote, just three percentage points above the EMH,

539
00:29:41.170 --> 00:29:44.369
and I think that there's a lot of good reasons

540
00:29:44.470 --> 00:29:48.950
to choose this guy. We have, of course, Bones. Bones McCoy,

541
00:29:49.650 --> 00:29:55.130
who we all know from TOS, the original movies. We

542
00:29:55.150 --> 00:29:56.450
get to see him at 137 years old in Star

543
00:29:56.470 --> 00:30:03.970
Trek The Next Generation. And in fact, he is alluded

544
00:30:04.049 --> 00:30:07.920
to in tonight's episode, but not actually shown. So apparently,

545
00:30:07.940 --> 00:30:11.460
you know, on the ship, but not shown. I kind

546
00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:13.759
of like that mystery. We'll talk more about that later.

547
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:18.670
So your number one choice was Dr. Bones McCoy, 27%

548
00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:22.309
of the vote. that's a pretty good spread, you guys.

549
00:30:22.450 --> 00:30:25.789
That's like, you know, nine people got good amounts of

550
00:30:25.829 --> 00:30:29.150
the vote and the top two, not surprising. And then

551
00:30:29.170 --> 00:30:31.750
the good cluster in the middle, that's a solid. I

552
00:30:31.750 --> 00:30:33.710
haven't graphed it, but I would guess that's a solid

553
00:30:33.730 --> 00:30:34.230
bell curve.

554
00:30:35.450 --> 00:30:36.819
And none of us chose bones.

555
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.980
None of us chose bones. That is true. Although Whitney

556
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:43.920
may have tended that way, it sounded like.

557
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:46.660
He was the original EMH.

558
00:30:47.369 --> 00:30:48.329
Yeah, he was, yes.

559
00:30:48.349 --> 00:30:51.289
It's a combination of pressure and the doctor. He was

560
00:30:51.369 --> 00:30:54.680
on call 24-7, had all the stuff thrown at him,

561
00:30:54.740 --> 00:30:56.940
but he had a little bit more of a bedside

562
00:30:56.980 --> 00:30:58.099
manner and definitely the snark.

563
00:30:58.779 --> 00:31:01.480
Yeah. For sure. He's this Jim.

564
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:04.720
The best line ever.

565
00:31:05.259 --> 00:31:13.390
Yeah. Or, damn it, I'm a doctor, not an escalator. So,

566
00:31:13.910 --> 00:31:17.109
how is our crew shaping up for the USS Shoppery, Eric?

567
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.029
Oh, man, we are looking pretty good. So, so far,

568
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:25.069
we have put four major crew members on the USS Shaakiri,

569
00:31:25.849 --> 00:31:30.490
the ship that wants to share your pain. At helm

570
00:31:30.529 --> 00:31:37.589
slash pilot, we have Tom Paris, you know, creator of

571
00:31:37.630 --> 00:31:40.930
the Delta Flyer. Chief of security, we, of course, have Odo.

572
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.990
the man who can turn himself into liquid and is

573
00:31:45.029 --> 00:31:48.750
probably the biggest gumshoe that we ever see on Star Trek.

574
00:31:49.630 --> 00:31:55.089
We have Chief Engineer Scotty, because, I mean, Scotty, right?

575
00:31:55.109 --> 00:32:00.150
And you all, by three percentages, have chosen now Bones

576
00:32:00.369 --> 00:32:03.130
as our CMO. So, you know, this is shaping up

577
00:32:03.170 --> 00:32:05.710
to be a pretty good crew. We got two TOS members,

578
00:32:05.829 --> 00:32:08.279
one DS9, and one Voyager.

579
00:32:08.410 --> 00:32:08.839
So far.

580
00:32:09.779 --> 00:32:12.619
Nobody from TNG has made the final cut, which is

581
00:32:12.660 --> 00:32:13.500
kind of surprising.

582
00:32:15.059 --> 00:32:17.970
That is very, very well. We haven't gotten to Captain yet.

583
00:32:19.589 --> 00:32:20.450
No, we have not.

584
00:32:21.529 --> 00:32:24.750
I think our next one, Jim, isn't our next one

585
00:32:24.789 --> 00:32:26.599
supposed to be about first officers?

586
00:32:26.970 --> 00:32:28.180
First officers up there.

587
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:29.039
Oh, yeah.

588
00:32:29.059 --> 00:32:35.759
Go vote for your favorite first officer. All right. Well,

589
00:32:35.779 --> 00:32:37.839
there you have it. There's our poll for this week, guys.

590
00:32:37.859 --> 00:32:40.220
You can go to our Facebook page, Chuck Talkin' and Beyond,

591
00:32:40.259 --> 00:32:43.740
and vote for who you would kick as your first

592
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:48.220
officer on your star show. And now it's time for

593
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:54.839
some cadet training with Charles. Cadet training, training, training.

594
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:56.039
Cadet training.

595
00:32:57.740 --> 00:32:58.740
Cadet training.

596
00:32:58.849 --> 00:33:00.769
Yeah, we need a song for that, too.

597
00:33:00.869 --> 00:33:02.329
Yeah, we need a song for that.

598
00:33:02.369 --> 00:33:03.369
Yeah, we need some songs.

599
00:33:04.750 --> 00:33:08.750
Okay, well, my Trexburg can sit back. My Trexburg can

600
00:33:08.789 --> 00:33:10.970
sit back a little bit because I went down a

601
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.619
rabbit hole for this week's episode because there was so

602
00:33:14.660 --> 00:33:15.200
much in it.

603
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:18.900
Let's start off with... Seriously, people, if you don't have

604
00:33:18.940 --> 00:33:20.579
a drink yet, grab one now.

605
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:26.009
Let's start off with.

606
00:33:26.029 --> 00:33:30.150
Whitney had one, I saw. Whitney's got one. Okay.

607
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:38.019
All right, let's start off with Star Trek Generations. Why Generations?

608
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.039
Because Una mentions, this feels like a Tuesday. It's like,

609
00:33:42.380 --> 00:33:47.519
of course, dealing with the Tuesday joke from Generations. Strange

610
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.250
New Worlds. Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. This is where

611
00:33:52.490 --> 00:33:56.289
Leon deals with time travel and why she has knowledge

612
00:33:56.329 --> 00:34:05.119
about it. Black Holes. Enterprise Singularity. TNG's Timescape, Voyager's Parallax,

613
00:34:05.299 --> 00:34:09.699
and Lower Deck's I, Escritus are all episodes with black holes.

614
00:34:10.590 --> 00:34:15.050
Time Travel, City on the Edge of Forever from TNG,

615
00:34:15.150 --> 00:34:21.349
Season 1. Trials and Tribulations, Star Trek Deep Space Nine,

616
00:34:21.469 --> 00:34:27.210
Season 5. Yes, Here's Enterprise, Next Generation, Season 3. Cause

617
00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:32.239
and Effect, Star Trek Next Generation, Season 5. Little Green Men,

618
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.280
Star Trek Deep Space Nine Season 4, Timeless Star Trek

619
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:43.630
Voyager Season 5, TNG's All Good Thing Season 7, which

620
00:34:43.690 --> 00:34:47.849
is definitely a good tie-in to this episode. Star Trek

621
00:34:47.909 --> 00:34:52.050
Original Series, Where No Man Has Gone Before, When Kirk

622
00:34:52.190 --> 00:34:56.710
Mentions Playing Poker with Gary Mitchell. Thought that was an

623
00:34:56.829 --> 00:35:04.579
interesting throne in there. Star Trek Discovery Season 2, Through

624
00:35:04.619 --> 00:35:08.860
the Valley of the Shadows, where Pike visits a monastery

625
00:35:09.019 --> 00:35:13.349
on Moonbase and discovers the time crystals and his future.

626
00:35:13.369 --> 00:35:22.309
That's why Pike knows about time travel. Temple Investigations, Strange

627
00:35:22.349 --> 00:35:27.239
New Worlds, Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow, and Trials and Tribulations.

628
00:35:30.449 --> 00:35:34.750
The beings at the end of this episode reminded me

629
00:35:34.769 --> 00:35:40.079
a lot of the prophets because they don't follow linear

630
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.300
your time. DS9, Emissary Part 1 and Part 2 were

631
00:35:44.420 --> 00:35:50.079
introduced to that. At the end, I just had some

632
00:35:50.099 --> 00:35:57.030
reminisce of TNG and the regular poker games where suddenly

633
00:35:57.090 --> 00:36:03.090
they're saying, yep, they're into poker. But that's quite a bit,

634
00:36:03.130 --> 00:36:05.780
and I'm sure there's a few others that the rest

635
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.579
of the Trekshbergs could come up with for tying to

636
00:36:08.659 --> 00:36:12.969
other episodes. But I can see Eric over there biting

637
00:36:13.010 --> 00:36:15.570
at the bit wanting to talk about this episode and

638
00:36:15.610 --> 00:36:16.230
what happened.

639
00:36:16.250 --> 00:36:16.349
Hmm.

640
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:24.070
Yes, I do, Charles. So this, of course, tonight we're

641
00:36:24.090 --> 00:36:29.110
talking about Tomorrow's Enterprise, Season 4, Episode 10 of this

642
00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:33.030
season of Strange New Worlds. This is the Season 4 finale,

643
00:36:33.969 --> 00:36:36.650
and it's a time travel story centered on, of course,

644
00:36:36.710 --> 00:36:39.980
Nyota Uhura, who we are featuring here in our beautiful picture.

645
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:43.880
Thank you, David. While the USS Enterprise under Captain Christopher

646
00:36:43.940 --> 00:36:47.159
Pike investigates a white hole, which was kind of an

647
00:36:47.260 --> 00:36:53.119
interesting concept, Uhura begins hearing distress calls from Scotty that

648
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.130
nobody else can hear. She eventually discovers that the calls

649
00:36:56.190 --> 00:36:59.710
are coming from herself one year in the future, creating

650
00:36:59.750 --> 00:37:04.590
a temporal link between two versions of the Enterprise. Naturally,

651
00:37:04.630 --> 00:37:08.860
of course, setting off Pavloian responses for most of us

652
00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:11.780
who have seen yesterday's Enterprise, if the title of this

653
00:37:11.860 --> 00:37:15.539
episode didn't do enough of that. In the future timeline,

654
00:37:15.579 --> 00:37:19.110
James T. Kirk becomes captain of the Enterprise. We're going

655
00:37:19.130 --> 00:37:21.590
to talk a lot about that, I believe. Scotty and

656
00:37:21.610 --> 00:37:25.150
Uhura are romantically involved. We should talk about that. And

657
00:37:25.170 --> 00:37:29.590
the ship has moved noticeably closer to its TOS configuration.

658
00:37:30.070 --> 00:37:33.059
A temporal anomaly, one of my favorite types of anomaly,

659
00:37:33.139 --> 00:37:36.260
connecting a white hole and a black hole threatens both ships.

660
00:37:37.300 --> 00:37:40.659
And in particular, Scotty's survival, which I thought was a

661
00:37:40.739 --> 00:37:44.280
great catalyst for the whole story in this one. Present

662
00:37:44.300 --> 00:37:47.900
day Uhura and future Uhura must cooperate across time. to

663
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:53.340
prevent a causal paradox, of course, the one that's sort

664
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:56.820
of like is the snake feeding or eating its own tail, right?

665
00:37:57.579 --> 00:38:01.380
And restore the proper timeline. A major emotional theme in

666
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.079
this episode, of course, is Uhura confronting knowledge of a

667
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.550
future that she's not supposed to possess. She sees who

668
00:38:07.590 --> 00:38:10.250
she may become, who she may love, and what the

669
00:38:10.269 --> 00:38:13.880
Enterprise will eventually look like under Kirk's command. Like many

670
00:38:13.940 --> 00:38:18.659
classic Trek time travel stories, this episode asks whether knowing

671
00:38:18.699 --> 00:38:22.280
the future helps or harms the present. And I think

672
00:38:22.300 --> 00:38:25.260
there's a lot of that in this episode. We have

673
00:38:25.340 --> 00:38:27.860
two time periods that are sort of represented. We have

674
00:38:27.989 --> 00:38:31.050
Pike's present, which is in this season, the year 2261.

675
00:38:31.050 --> 00:38:35.090
And then we have one year in the future. So

676
00:38:35.150 --> 00:38:38.289
that's Kirk's near future. So that we know now it's

677
00:38:38.750 --> 00:38:42.309
established that in the next year, Kirk takes over command

678
00:38:42.329 --> 00:38:45.960
of the Enterprise. As Charles was alluding, this, of course,

679
00:38:45.980 --> 00:38:50.380
has lots of different references to the past. Yesterday's Enterprise

680
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.059
was a very strong reference for me. All Good Things,

681
00:38:54.099 --> 00:38:57.360
he mentioned. We have the transition from Pike to Kirk,

682
00:38:57.380 --> 00:39:00.719
which is a major thing. We have a time travel thing,

683
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.469
but with Uhura, which is pretty interesting. I don't think

684
00:39:03.530 --> 00:39:10.230
we've seen that before. And for just the description of

685
00:39:10.269 --> 00:39:13.590
the episode, I would say that this one generally seeks

686
00:39:13.670 --> 00:39:17.280
to have a nice character arc for her and kind

687
00:39:17.300 --> 00:39:20.380
of like show how she develops into the person that

688
00:39:20.420 --> 00:39:23.880
we all know and love from the original series. So

689
00:39:25.219 --> 00:39:29.230
enough hearing me try to summarize things here. Let's actually

690
00:39:29.289 --> 00:39:31.480
talk about our opinions on this episode. What do you say?

691
00:39:32.670 --> 00:39:36.800
Well, first, let's go over what our fans had to say. Oh, yeah.

692
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.739
See, I normally don't do the recap, so I'm used

693
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.500
to handing it off to somebody. But I get to

694
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:48.880
do two things. Woo! All right, here we go there.

695
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:50.789
I didn't want to put too much pressure on her.

696
00:39:50.900 --> 00:39:53.320
That's okay. That'll be the next show she shows up on.

697
00:39:53.340 --> 00:39:53.969
Yeah.

698
00:39:54.190 --> 00:39:54.489
Okay.

699
00:39:55.250 --> 00:39:55.530
All right.

700
00:39:56.929 --> 00:39:59.989
All right, for our fan ratings this week, we have

701
00:40:00.110 --> 00:40:03.750
James Young, a top fan, meaning that he spends more

702
00:40:03.809 --> 00:40:06.329
time than most on our Facebook page, which we appreciate.

703
00:40:06.690 --> 00:40:08.409
He gave it a 9 out of 10. It almost

704
00:40:08.449 --> 00:40:12.059
felt like a Star Trek film, quite inventive and enjoyable.

705
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:14.780
Ashley Kell said, I think it was an 8. It

706
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.639
was a very good episode. It was an interesting story,

707
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.699
but also filled in details on Matt Price, gave it

708
00:40:20.739 --> 00:40:23.699
a 10 out of 10. Season 4 hasn't been amazing

709
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.489
on the whole, but when it stuck the landing... Like

710
00:40:26.530 --> 00:40:30.349
this episode? Phenomenal. And a little smiley face with hearts

711
00:40:30.409 --> 00:40:33.280
in the eyes. So lots of love from Matt for

712
00:40:33.300 --> 00:40:38.090
this episode. Jonathan Jacobson gave it a 9 out of 10.

713
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:41.300
The Breach space baby was a tad too cute, but

714
00:40:41.340 --> 00:40:43.599
at least they added a strange new life form to

715
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:49.980
the time travel theme. Great episode for Uhura Celia Rose

716
00:40:50.019 --> 00:40:53.199
Gooding after she played an important role in the secondary

717
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:56.880
plot of episode 8, which... with Episodes 1 and 6

718
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:00.699
of Season 4, was also a very good Trek sci-fi episode.

719
00:41:01.059 --> 00:41:05.820
Episode 10's live-action depictions of exotic Enterprise crew members from

720
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.400
the animated series were icing on the cake. I want

721
00:41:08.420 --> 00:41:09.280
to talk about that, too.

722
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:10.460
Thanks, Jonathan.

723
00:41:11.380 --> 00:41:15.550
Gary Smith said, in honor of the anniversary, a 60. Yeah,

724
00:41:15.750 --> 00:41:17.530
I'm sorry, Gary. We have to average that down to

725
00:41:17.570 --> 00:41:22.079
a 10. But I appreciate your enthusiasm. Patricia Silva gave

726
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.880
it a 10 out of 10. Michelle Sparrow gave it

727
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.659
a 10 out of 10 with bonus points for nostalgia.

728
00:41:27.739 --> 00:41:30.159
Lots of love, little hearts and things coming from Michelle.

729
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.059
Alan Dale Tackett, easily a 9.5. That sounds to me

730
00:41:35.099 --> 00:41:37.900
like actually a 10, Alan. So we're just going to

731
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.659
round that up a little bit. Stefan Parker gave it

732
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:46.320
a solid 9.5. Stefan's only gripe was that the Deus

733
00:41:46.420 --> 00:41:51.570
Ex Machina type resolution In other words, the way the

734
00:41:51.610 --> 00:41:55.710
thing ended. Everything else was spectacular, especially the visuals and

735
00:41:55.769 --> 00:41:59.539
the extra characters. We can talk about the Deus Ex

736
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:02.539
Machina part of it here, Stefan. Thanks for saying that.

737
00:42:03.260 --> 00:42:05.440
And Amy F. Fab gave it a 9, and that

738
00:42:05.500 --> 00:42:12.550
gave us, you guys, a fan score of 9.5. Unheard

739
00:42:12.710 --> 00:42:16.030
of in Season 4 of Strange New Worlds. We've seen

740
00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:17.969
a couple scores in the past that were like that,

741
00:42:18.269 --> 00:42:21.639
but this is... This is bonkers. So you all absolutely

742
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:22.559
love this episode.

743
00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:24.780
Should we round it up to 10?

744
00:42:24.780 --> 00:42:31.449
Well, I don't necessarily think we have to. But yeah,

745
00:42:32.130 --> 00:42:34.769
it's just kind of fun to see numbers this high.

746
00:42:34.789 --> 00:42:36.869
The last time that I believe that we had a

747
00:42:36.909 --> 00:42:39.960
number this high was like, I don't know, It might've

748
00:42:39.980 --> 00:42:43.599
been like a, like a lower decks episode. These old signs.

749
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.099
I think everybody thought it was like really good.

750
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:51.699
Episode one. Fans gave episode one a 9.7. This is

751
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.539
the second highest of the season.

752
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:55.320
Wow. All right.

753
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.460
Well, you know, there's been such a lull between now

754
00:42:58.519 --> 00:42:59.360
and then Charles.

755
00:42:59.780 --> 00:43:00.699
Yeah.

756
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:01.500
I sort of forgot.

757
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.050
That was nine weeks ago. Thank you.

758
00:43:03.179 --> 00:43:06.269
That was nine weeks ago. That's why I can barely

759
00:43:06.349 --> 00:43:09.110
remember what I had for breakfast. So, uh, yeah. Thank

760
00:43:09.150 --> 00:43:11.590
you all for answering our polls and for giving this

761
00:43:11.659 --> 00:43:14.579
episode a 9.5. And now we should talk about what

762
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:15.019
we all thought.

763
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.840
Now it's time to talk about the episode. So I'm

764
00:43:17.860 --> 00:43:22.739
going to jump in here first because I can. I

765
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:27.400
wanted to mention this beautiful character right here, directly from TAS,

766
00:43:27.420 --> 00:43:31.000
that's Star Trek, the animated series. And that's M.R.S., who,

767
00:43:31.019 --> 00:43:34.420
of course, was voiced on the original animated series by

768
00:43:34.460 --> 00:43:38.050
none other than Major Barrett. And that was a practical costume, guys.

769
00:43:38.110 --> 00:43:40.500
And there's the headpiece. I heard a lot of people

770
00:43:40.579 --> 00:43:45.639
online complaining about the shoddy CGI. Well, it wasn't CGI.

771
00:43:45.820 --> 00:43:48.820
It was actually a person in a costume. Same thing

772
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:53.750
with this awesome guy right here. This is Alec Holm.

773
00:43:54.829 --> 00:43:58.469
And he's from the animated series as well. He's an Aurelian.

774
00:43:59.469 --> 00:44:02.880
And he was voiced by James Doohan. And he appears

775
00:44:03.090 --> 00:44:08.170
in the awesome episode yesteryear of the animated series, which

776
00:44:08.190 --> 00:44:10.250
we talk about all the time. And then we got

777
00:44:10.289 --> 00:44:13.269
this guy right here, which you can barely, barely see

778
00:44:13.949 --> 00:44:15.949
because he's so dark. But you can see the spine

779
00:44:16.010 --> 00:44:20.579
on his head and his tail. And that is S.O.R.D. S-O-R-D.

780
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:26.460
And he's a reptilian type of a crew member. I

781
00:44:26.460 --> 00:44:28.519
couldn't find the name of the race, just the name

782
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:32.079
of the character. And he appeared in the animated series episode,

783
00:44:32.420 --> 00:44:33.340
The Jihad.

784
00:44:34.750 --> 00:44:40.340
Jim, that character type, I believe, is called a Sleestack.

785
00:44:41.380 --> 00:44:47.780
A Sleestack. There you go. Okay.

786
00:44:48.579 --> 00:44:50.679
I mean, it more or less is a Sleestack, right?

787
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.389
Pretty much, yeah. Pretty much. So I thought it was

788
00:44:55.449 --> 00:44:59.369
great that they paid a lot of attention to the

789
00:44:59.550 --> 00:45:02.809
animated series. So I just wanted to and David did

790
00:45:02.849 --> 00:45:05.250
some great job here with the graphics and the pictures

791
00:45:05.269 --> 00:45:08.389
and things. So thank you, David. Uh, now back to

792
00:45:08.429 --> 00:45:12.269
our regularly scheduled programming. So this episode was a lot

793
00:45:12.309 --> 00:45:15.829
of fun. It was great. Um, you know, after sitting through,

794
00:45:15.849 --> 00:45:18.309
you know, I was expecting a Brady bunch or a

795
00:45:18.429 --> 00:45:22.179
Gilligan's Island episode, the way the season has been going, but, uh,

796
00:45:22.219 --> 00:45:24.679
they've given us some really, really good ones. And I

797
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:27.179
think as Eric hinted at either, they're really good or

798
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:32.440
they're really bad. Um, You know, it's a peak in

799
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:37.349
a valley thing. I think Magnitude of Orders was phenomenal.

800
00:45:37.510 --> 00:45:42.449
Off Hour was phenomenal. This episode was also phenomenal. I

801
00:45:42.650 --> 00:45:47.849
really like the Scotty-Ahora relationship. And V, why did I

802
00:45:47.889 --> 00:45:49.389
like that relationship so much?

803
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:51.440
Hmm?

804
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:52.039
What?

805
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:53.159
Oh, sorry.

806
00:45:54.019 --> 00:45:56.559
Yeah, why was that relationship... Why did I like that

807
00:45:56.659 --> 00:45:57.300
so much?

808
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:01.010
What am I saying?

809
00:46:01.190 --> 00:46:05.190
Sorry. V, just say Star Trek 5 and you'll be fine.

810
00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:06.530
Star Trek 5.

811
00:46:06.510 --> 00:46:07.949
Why does God need a starship?

812
00:46:08.809 --> 00:46:10.969
That's right. What does God need with a starship? I

813
00:46:11.010 --> 00:46:14.929
remember when Scotty and Laura hooked up with Star Trek

814
00:46:14.929 --> 00:46:19.170
5 and the fans went crazy. Well, guess what? Here

815
00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:19.929
they are. Okay.

816
00:46:20.030 --> 00:46:21.030
I don't remember that.

817
00:46:21.150 --> 00:46:21.650
Okay.

818
00:46:21.769 --> 00:46:22.110
All right.

819
00:46:22.190 --> 00:46:22.690
Cool.

820
00:46:22.829 --> 00:46:25.969
It's okay. We'll give you a break. You're not blue today,

821
00:46:26.050 --> 00:46:33.099
so that's good. But I did like seeing Scotty and

822
00:46:33.500 --> 00:46:38.619
Uhura build a relationship. As Eric hinted at earlier, when

823
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:44.449
Captain Ortegas comes aboard the ship, she's a pilot. She's

824
00:46:44.969 --> 00:46:51.769
teaching pilots at Beta something or other. She's a teacher

825
00:46:51.909 --> 00:46:56.039
at Beta. I should have written it down. Anyways, she's

826
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.219
a captain and she's teaching people how to fly.

827
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.880
I mean, she basically, Jim, did she not look like

828
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:03.360
a captain for the Rebellion?

829
00:47:03.380 --> 00:47:07.949
Yeah, she should have been in Star Wars. Yeah. Yeah.

830
00:47:08.730 --> 00:47:11.750
And she didn't have that weird haircut. She had a

831
00:47:11.789 --> 00:47:15.469
weirder haircut. I like her better that way. I like

832
00:47:15.489 --> 00:47:18.590
her better. I like her better this way than with

833
00:47:18.630 --> 00:47:22.449
that wild, wild hair. But Captain Ortegas comes back. And

834
00:47:22.469 --> 00:47:26.360
if you pay attention, They throw a lot of information

835
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:28.860
at us in that one scene. First of all, we

836
00:47:28.900 --> 00:47:32.420
see all the animated series characters all hanging out in

837
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:35.280
the shuttle bay. But if you pay attention to what

838
00:47:35.300 --> 00:47:39.079
she's saying, she's talking about Dr. Mbenga leaving the ship

839
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:43.179
and Dr. Boyce coming aboard the ship. She also mentions Bones.

840
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:47.539
We don't see him, but she says that mentions Bones

841
00:47:47.619 --> 00:47:51.219
is on his way. So we got that, which is

842
00:47:51.260 --> 00:47:56.530
a nice little callback. You know, I can't say anything

843
00:47:56.590 --> 00:48:01.530
negative about this episode. Celia Rose Gooding is phenomenal. We

844
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:07.760
saw her acting chops in orders of magnitude. And we

845
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.980
see them again in this episode. She's just outstanding. Everything

846
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.099
that she touches is gold. One of my favorite scenes

847
00:48:15.420 --> 00:48:19.280
in this episode brought a tear to me eye. Is

848
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:25.679
when Pike sees Uhura hugging Scotty in the hallway. And

849
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:28.380
then he realizes that she's not from this time. And

850
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.760
they go into his ready room. And they have a

851
00:48:31.820 --> 00:48:34.599
talk about time. And he says, you know, I know

852
00:48:34.619 --> 00:48:38.320
a little bit about time. And she can't tell him

853
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:41.199
about the future, which he's aware of. And that moment

854
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:43.190
they share where she hugs him and thanks him for

855
00:48:43.230 --> 00:48:49.360
things he hasn't done yet. And he knows... Because Pike

856
00:48:49.420 --> 00:48:52.559
is in a unique situation. Pike knows what's going to

857
00:48:52.619 --> 00:48:55.420
happen to him. He knows where he's going to end up,

858
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.500
and he knows what his destiny is. So, Uhura thanking

859
00:48:59.539 --> 00:49:01.579
him for these things he hasn't done yet, I think

860
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.300
it just justifies that he's making the right decision. He

861
00:49:05.340 --> 00:49:08.610
did make the right decision, and that his future, you know,

862
00:49:10.389 --> 00:49:12.869
he's tried to avoid it in the past, but couldn't.

863
00:49:13.469 --> 00:49:15.510
And that, you know, it's the right thing to do.

864
00:49:15.570 --> 00:49:18.260
I just... It was a beautiful scene. It was well written.

865
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.949
It was well acted. And I just, I love that

866
00:49:22.050 --> 00:49:25.880
scene right there. In fact, she actually calls him by

867
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.739
his first name. She calls him Chris. And which is

868
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.860
a level of intimacy that we haven't seen between them before.

869
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:35.880
So that was just incredible. You know, if the writers

870
00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:38.039
can write stuff like that, why are we, well, I

871
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:44.650
won't get into that. But anyways, phenomenal scene, great scene, well-written, well-acted.

872
00:49:46.150 --> 00:49:50.300
Scotty was outstanding in this episode as well. He had

873
00:49:50.340 --> 00:49:53.320
some really great lines and some great stuff to do.

874
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.760
But I think Uhura steals the show, both future Uhura

875
00:49:56.940 --> 00:50:02.199
and past Uhura. The scene where she meets Kirk and

876
00:50:02.260 --> 00:50:04.630
Kirk talks about Gary Mitchell and he says, you're not

877
00:50:04.710 --> 00:50:08.369
my Uhura. And Kirk figures it out as well. the

878
00:50:08.409 --> 00:50:11.090
fact that he mentions Gary Mitchell. I thought that was

879
00:50:11.110 --> 00:50:13.989
a great callback as well, and I really liked that.

880
00:50:14.309 --> 00:50:17.690
There's nothing about this episode I didn't like. This was

881
00:50:17.789 --> 00:50:21.780
the episode of episodes. I got to give it a 10.

882
00:50:21.780 --> 00:50:24.119
I got to give this one a 10. And I

883
00:50:24.179 --> 00:50:27.280
read online that this episode was originally written to be

884
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:29.360
the final episode. This was going to be how they

885
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.699
were going to end Strange New Worlds until they were

886
00:50:32.739 --> 00:50:36.599
petitioned and got approved for the six more episodes to

887
00:50:36.659 --> 00:50:41.619
bring Kirk up to the captain's chair and introduce Sulu

888
00:50:41.699 --> 00:50:44.780
and Bones, which we'll see next season. And as a sidebar,

889
00:50:46.179 --> 00:50:48.340
I did read that next season is going to be

890
00:50:48.380 --> 00:50:51.500
no gimmicks like we saw in this season. It's just

891
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:56.760
going to be straight up, you know, Star Trek, introducing

892
00:50:56.780 --> 00:50:59.800
these characters and moving them to where they need to be.

893
00:50:59.940 --> 00:51:03.199
And that's refreshing to hear. So I'm looking forward to

894
00:51:03.219 --> 00:51:06.380
the six episodes of next season. So for me, I

895
00:51:06.889 --> 00:51:10.000
got to give it a 10. I just have got

896
00:51:10.059 --> 00:51:12.980
to give this episode a 10. It was absolutely outstanding.

897
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:19.340
A lot of fun. A lot of action. The aliens

898
00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:24.860
in the wormhole, were they the prophets? Was it V'ger?

899
00:51:25.980 --> 00:51:31.679
Who can it be now? You know, because when they

900
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:35.510
gave their name, They sang it, and they didn't translate

901
00:51:35.550 --> 00:51:37.210
it for us, so we don't know what they said.

902
00:51:37.250 --> 00:51:43.300
They were just... So whatever that is, that's what they are.

903
00:51:43.420 --> 00:51:48.920
And again, Uhura, with her incredible linguistic and musical talents,

904
00:51:48.980 --> 00:51:52.019
is able to decode that. A little help from Future Her.

905
00:51:53.260 --> 00:51:55.440
Which I believe she did in Season 1 as well.

906
00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:01.530
Wasn't there a musical egg? And that they had to Yeah.

907
00:52:01.550 --> 00:52:05.159
Yeah. There's been a couple of, of nice, like Uhura

908
00:52:05.420 --> 00:52:09.760
audio feature, uh, ends to season, uh, in this show

909
00:52:09.820 --> 00:52:13.000
so far. And we actually, I mean, I was, I'll

910
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:15.659
talk about this too, but like discovery had a little

911
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.340
bit of a, a similar kind of audio alien ending situation.

912
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.219
Yeah. Yeah. I, so I really enjoyed it. I thought

913
00:52:24.260 --> 00:52:27.150
it was straight up Star Trek. Um, They didn't have

914
00:52:27.170 --> 00:52:29.630
to rely on gimmicks or anything else, and they just

915
00:52:29.809 --> 00:52:33.659
hit us with a strong, good story with good characterization,

916
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:38.800
some great moments. Dr. Boyce gambling with Spock on the

917
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:44.860
bridge I thought was interesting. Spock and Kirk talking about poker.

918
00:52:45.429 --> 00:52:48.090
There was just so much stuff to love in this episode.

919
00:52:48.530 --> 00:52:53.449
So for me, 10, straight up 10. And I'm going

920
00:52:53.469 --> 00:52:55.929
to turn the microphone over to Whitney because she's our

921
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:58.980
guest here. So I think that she should get the

922
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:05.199
first opportunity here so there's not too much pressure on her. So, Whitney,

923
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.829
the flaming microphone is yours.

924
00:53:09.269 --> 00:53:15.289
Oh, goodness. I need another drink. I, too, would give

925
00:53:15.329 --> 00:53:18.409
this probably a 10. Originally, I was thinking probably closer

926
00:53:18.429 --> 00:53:21.510
to a 9 to a 9.5. Because of the space baby,

927
00:53:22.110 --> 00:53:25.630
I thought that was a little corny. But as I

928
00:53:25.690 --> 00:53:30.349
thought about it, I kind of thought that maybe that

929
00:53:30.409 --> 00:53:34.150
was kind of cool because it's very reminiscent of the

930
00:53:34.190 --> 00:53:38.309
prophets and how they always use the linear language that

931
00:53:38.389 --> 00:53:46.170
we use to describe things. So I warmed up to it. Um,

932
00:53:46.949 --> 00:53:49.269
so there's that. And yes, I do liken this very

933
00:53:49.309 --> 00:53:52.030
much to the prophets. It could be like them or

934
00:53:52.170 --> 00:53:54.449
something similar to them, a birth of one of them.

935
00:53:54.590 --> 00:53:57.730
I don't know, but it very, very much reminded me

936
00:53:57.769 --> 00:53:59.769
of the prophets for some reason. And I can always

937
00:53:59.809 --> 00:54:02.849
say that's intuitive. I have scoured the internet looking for

938
00:54:03.349 --> 00:54:06.199
similar music, something that would explain to me why I

939
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:08.699
thought this, and I can't find the example that I

940
00:54:09.019 --> 00:54:12.519
thought I had, but, um, definitely related to the prophets

941
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:17.559
in my mind. Um, So there's that. I also like

942
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.659
the poker references. For one thing, next generation fan here.

943
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:27.679
So there's that. But also watching Uhura transition into more

944
00:54:27.699 --> 00:54:29.489
of a poker face. I never would have thought that

945
00:54:29.550 --> 00:54:31.719
of her. But, you know, for her to be in

946
00:54:31.780 --> 00:54:34.329
the sick bay going, I'm fine. And they're like, yeah, no,

947
00:54:34.369 --> 00:54:39.670
you're not fine. You know, it's just very reminiscent of,

948
00:54:40.369 --> 00:54:45.699
you know, somebody making that change over only a year's time, apparently. Um,

949
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.150
the other thing that I was just kind of remembering

950
00:54:50.250 --> 00:54:54.599
too was, uh, I did like Scotty in this. Uh,

951
00:54:54.690 --> 00:54:59.010
I find him hard to understand because he's actually Scottish. Um,

952
00:54:59.750 --> 00:55:03.300
I have a hearing thing, but I do love the accent.

953
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:05.980
And in this, he actually did a sort of a

954
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:09.480
captain's voice from like an airplane. I thought that was hysterical.

955
00:55:09.940 --> 00:55:12.949
And then Ortega's turns around and tries to mimic him. Yeah.

956
00:55:14.260 --> 00:55:16.179
So just a lot of these things and a lot

957
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:19.360
of little references, I thought it was definitely a bump

958
00:55:19.389 --> 00:55:21.989
toward a 10.

959
00:55:22.510 --> 00:55:26.610
You know, Whitney, when the poker face of Uhura reminded

960
00:55:26.650 --> 00:55:30.730
me of Star Trek III with Mr. Adventure, and she's like,

961
00:55:30.750 --> 00:55:34.090
is your adrenaline flowing? Mr. Adventure, get in the closet.

962
00:55:34.250 --> 00:55:37.530
It kind of reminded me of Star Trek III when

963
00:55:37.570 --> 00:55:41.630
Uhura kind of puts the guy in the closet. I'll

964
00:55:41.690 --> 00:55:44.449
have Mr. Adventure eating out of my hands and put

965
00:55:44.469 --> 00:55:50.010
some in the closet. Yeah, Uhura shines in this episode.

966
00:55:50.090 --> 00:55:53.869
She really does. And the music and the language, you know, somebody,

967
00:55:53.889 --> 00:55:55.800
I think you might have mentioned that or Eric did.

968
00:55:56.840 --> 00:56:02.619
That was very much appreciated here too. You know, she's always,

969
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.539
I remember, I think it was, I can't remember the

970
00:56:05.579 --> 00:56:07.280
name of the episode. The one with the kid that

971
00:56:07.460 --> 00:56:09.940
had kind of godlike powers and he had been left behind.

972
00:56:11.909 --> 00:56:13.829
Oh, the first episode of Strangely World?

973
00:56:14.469 --> 00:56:15.550
No, no.

974
00:56:15.570 --> 00:56:17.389
Charlie X.

975
00:56:17.730 --> 00:56:18.730
Charlie X, yes.

976
00:56:19.070 --> 00:56:21.750
That was the one where she was singing to him.

977
00:56:21.769 --> 00:56:25.889
She has such a beautiful voice, and so does our

978
00:56:25.969 --> 00:56:29.179
current Uhura in Strangely World, or I should say older.

979
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:36.260
I also used to like a lot about languages, and

980
00:56:36.340 --> 00:56:40.380
so to see something kind of tangible... that she's now

981
00:56:40.420 --> 00:56:43.199
interpreting was kind of cool, too.

982
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:51.409
And Nurse Chapel had the 60s hairdo starting, and so

983
00:56:51.429 --> 00:56:51.670
did Ahura.

984
00:56:51.710 --> 00:56:54.530
I mean, it wasn't quite the woven beehive, but it

985
00:56:54.570 --> 00:56:55.730
was heading that direction.

986
00:56:55.750 --> 00:56:55.829
Yeah.

987
00:56:56.190 --> 00:56:56.989
Yeah.

988
00:56:57.869 --> 00:57:03.150
It was getting there. And she mentions Robert. Yeah. And

989
00:57:03.210 --> 00:57:08.610
her relationship with Spock, she mentions him as well. So

990
00:57:08.670 --> 00:57:09.860
a lot of stuff to love.

991
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:10.530
A lot of tie-ins.

992
00:57:10.550 --> 00:57:13.579
A lot of good stuff. A lot of good stuff.

993
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.099
And V, why don't we just, we'll just, you got

994
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:19.320
your gloves on and catch this flaming microphone?

995
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:26.980
Yeah. No, this was, this was a fantastic episode. It

996
00:57:27.019 --> 00:57:34.420
was very, very Star Trek. And like you, I think

997
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.480
that the part that got me the most was that

998
00:57:37.619 --> 00:57:44.329
scene at the end with Uhura, you know, calling him

999
00:57:44.429 --> 00:57:48.170
Chris and knowing what she knows, but she can't tell him,

1000
00:57:48.309 --> 00:57:53.090
but she's thanking him. And that just, God, that was

1001
00:57:53.110 --> 00:57:59.719
just so powerful. But I think that I can't imagine

1002
00:57:59.739 --> 00:58:04.579
that Nichelle Nichols wouldn't be proud to see you know,

1003
00:58:04.619 --> 00:58:08.489
the character that she brought to life, um, you know,

1004
00:58:08.690 --> 00:58:13.349
channeled by, by Celia Rose Gooding, because just, I mean,

1005
00:58:13.369 --> 00:58:16.050
they got the hair and they got the, the uniform

1006
00:58:16.090 --> 00:58:21.530
and everything. It was just, um, absolutely, uh, marvelous. I,

1007
00:58:21.769 --> 00:58:24.530
I must admit, I have just the way my brain works.

1008
00:58:24.690 --> 00:58:28.719
I have trouble with, with, uh, time, you know, the

1009
00:58:28.780 --> 00:58:34.789
timey wimey stuff. So I, I struggled with that. Um, But,

1010
00:58:35.570 --> 00:58:38.190
you know, the back and forth and everything. But I

1011
00:58:38.269 --> 00:58:41.070
do like, because they've done it before, where you have the,

1012
00:58:41.090 --> 00:58:46.679
you know, current Uhura with the one year in the

1013
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:49.219
future where they're, you know, you see both of them.

1014
00:58:51.300 --> 00:58:54.079
And so that helped me a little bit. But, yeah,

1015
00:58:55.260 --> 00:58:58.219
I also thought with the space baby, it's like, oh,

1016
00:58:58.539 --> 00:59:00.599
can we call it something else? And they said, okay.

1017
00:59:01.090 --> 00:59:03.769
And that, you know, they're calling it that. And they said, okay,

1018
00:59:03.789 --> 00:59:07.719
I guess we're going with Space Baby. It was kind

1019
00:59:07.739 --> 00:59:13.340
of funny. But I was thinking. about the TNG episode.

1020
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.219
What was it called? Galaxy's Child, where they had the

1021
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:23.849
what I call the space ravioli creature. that's what it looked.

1022
00:59:23.690 --> 00:59:26.110
Like it looked like.

1023
00:59:26.030 --> 00:59:27.690
A space ravioli it.

1024
00:59:27.610 --> 00:59:30.050
Did look delicious it did look like it was made

1025
00:59:30.090 --> 00:59:31.639
out of those little constructs things.

1026
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:35.300
Uh-huh yeah yeah and where they had to because the

1027
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:37.420
you know they had to rescue it and everything and

1028
00:59:37.539 --> 00:59:39.780
so yeah i don't know why i thought of that

1029
00:59:39.820 --> 00:59:46.139
but anyway space ravioli yeah you're welcome uh But no,

1030
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:48.219
just I don't know what else to say. I mean,

1031
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:51.010
you all have said pretty much what I was going

1032
00:59:51.030 --> 00:59:53.349
to say. So I'll just get straight to it. I

1033
00:59:53.389 --> 00:59:55.250
gave it a 10. It was just an absolute 10.

1034
00:59:55.250 --> 00:59:57.050
It was fantastic.

1035
00:59:58.090 --> 01:00:01.380
You know, V, when they called it a space baby,

1036
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:05.199
my brain immediately went to tell you in the 2001

1037
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:09.650
Space Odyssey reference from the last episode. Mm-hmm. Uh, I

1038
01:00:09.670 --> 01:00:13.989
went to space baby floating, um, in the, I still

1039
01:00:14.030 --> 01:00:17.090
don't understand the movie. I've seen the movie a hundred times,

1040
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:19.380
read the book, still don't understand it, but they had

1041
01:00:19.389 --> 01:00:21.050
the floating space baby.

1042
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:21.760
Yeah.

1043
01:00:21.900 --> 01:00:22.820
Oh, that's right. Yeah.

1044
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:23.159
Yeah.

1045
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:23.719
Oh my gosh.

1046
01:00:23.739 --> 01:00:24.420
That's so funny.

1047
01:00:25.219 --> 01:00:28.559
And Pellius said that she did send notes to Stanley

1048
01:00:28.900 --> 01:00:31.559
about the movie. So I thought, oh, that's where the

1049
01:00:31.579 --> 01:00:33.179
space baby came from. Yep.

1050
01:00:34.730 --> 01:00:38.469
I don't think anybody understands that. They called it the

1051
01:00:38.510 --> 01:00:40.070
star child, I think, in the movie.

1052
01:00:40.090 --> 01:00:41.190
The star child, that's it.

1053
01:00:41.269 --> 01:00:43.050
But, yeah, but, you know, yeah.

1054
01:00:44.170 --> 01:00:46.670
Still love it, though. I still love the movie. I

1055
01:00:46.690 --> 01:00:49.079
still watch it all the time. Still don't understand it,

1056
01:00:49.090 --> 01:00:53.530
but love it nonetheless. All right. So, David, you got

1057
01:00:53.730 --> 01:00:56.429
a 10 for me, a 10 for Whitney, a 10

1058
01:00:56.429 --> 01:00:58.980
from V. What do you got to say about this

1059
01:00:59.019 --> 01:00:59.719
week's episode?

1060
01:01:00.780 --> 01:01:02.739
Very nostalgic, for sure.

1061
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:12.710
I really enjoyed the looks that they did for her.

1062
01:01:11.730 --> 01:01:12.750
In the year later.

1063
01:01:12.769 --> 01:01:16.570
I liked all the little differences that you started seeing

1064
01:01:16.650 --> 01:01:20.030
here and there. Although, to me, it looks like the

1065
01:01:20.130 --> 01:01:23.610
Enterprise didn't really change all that much on the outside

1066
01:01:24.090 --> 01:01:25.869
of it. So I was like, okay, so when are

1067
01:01:25.889 --> 01:01:28.320
they going to make it more TOS Enterprise?

1068
01:01:28.340 --> 01:01:29.030
So I don't know.

1069
01:01:29.929 --> 01:01:31.960
You mean, when are they going to add the, like, big,

1070
01:01:32.179 --> 01:01:37.789
ridiculous lights and the cardboard buttons and the, like, is

1071
01:01:37.809 --> 01:01:38.590
that what you mean?

1072
01:01:38.789 --> 01:01:41.349
No, the exterior of the ship, not the interior.

1073
01:01:42.010 --> 01:01:44.860
Oh, so when does it look like a 1960s model

1074
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:48.159
hanging in space versus the cool thing that it looks

1075
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:51.300
like now? You're wondering what the retrofit is that makes

1076
01:01:51.380 --> 01:01:53.239
it into the 1960s version?

1077
01:01:53.260 --> 01:01:56.429
I'm pretty sure that they have plans just to reboot

1078
01:01:56.469 --> 01:01:58.869
the series, which is fine by me. But I mean,

1079
01:01:59.289 --> 01:02:02.349
just the idea that we're thinking right now, this is

1080
01:02:02.550 --> 01:02:03.929
kind of leading into the TOS.

1081
01:02:03.949 --> 01:02:04.590
So I'm thinking.

1082
01:02:04.969 --> 01:02:07.369
So everything kind of has to fit together like a glove,

1083
01:02:07.550 --> 01:02:08.190
but yeah.

1084
01:02:08.389 --> 01:02:11.380
I love your obsession with Canada. It's so fun. It's

1085
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:12.119
just so fun.

1086
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.559
But that's not going to change my score at all

1087
01:02:15.579 --> 01:02:17.719
or anything. I was just saying, you know, I noticed

1088
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:19.480
these things. I'm very observant.

1089
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.340
Well, I just want to point something out to you though, David.

1090
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:27.519
The fact that we saw animated characters from the animated

1091
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:31.440
series means that the Enterprise has not gone back and

1092
01:02:31.500 --> 01:02:32.460
been refit yet.

1093
01:02:33.610 --> 01:02:33.860
Yeah.

1094
01:02:34.590 --> 01:02:36.989
Yeah, I mean, that's a good point. I was just

1095
01:02:37.030 --> 01:02:40.269
about to bring up the whole MRS and Illurians and

1096
01:02:40.909 --> 01:02:43.860
whatever that dinosaur... When I first saw that reptile go by,

1097
01:02:44.380 --> 01:02:46.260
my first thought was like, hey, is that a Gorn?

1098
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:48.019
And I was like, no, that can't be right.

1099
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:50.719
That's what I thought, too.

1100
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:54.170
I thought it was a Gorn. So, um.

1101
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:59.340
But yeah, I really enjoyed Emerus because she's, as Eric

1102
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:01.960
brings up all the time, we play Star Trek Attack

1103
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.159
Wing a lot, and Emerus is one of my favorite

1104
01:03:04.179 --> 01:03:09.449
cards to use in that game. So I got really

1105
01:03:09.510 --> 01:03:14.070
into the TAS episode, watching all the cartoons, and I

1106
01:03:14.269 --> 01:03:18.269
really enjoyed a lot of it. And seeing them in

1107
01:03:18.289 --> 01:03:25.750
actual canon now as live action, Not to say that

1108
01:03:25.769 --> 01:03:28.349
TAS is not canon. I'm just saying the idea that

1109
01:03:29.030 --> 01:03:30.909
being able to see them, and they're not CGI, which

1110
01:03:30.969 --> 01:03:36.489
is really good. So, yeah, I actually really enjoyed that part.

1111
01:03:36.510 --> 01:03:38.800
I was, like, super excited to see them. I was like, whoa,

1112
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.099
is that MS? I was really hoping she would have

1113
01:03:41.219 --> 01:03:44.039
lines and be able to interact with the crew, but

1114
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.559
I guess I haven't really gotten there yet. But other

1115
01:03:47.579 --> 01:03:51.300
than that, yeah, this episode, really dig it for me.

1116
01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:54.539
And I'm going to have to agree with Whitney here

1117
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:57.989
because when they first mentioned the space baby, I was like, what?

1118
01:03:58.670 --> 01:04:02.570
What's going on? And then, yeah, the more I thought

1119
01:04:02.610 --> 01:04:06.980
about it, yeah, it just could be the Prophet. But

1120
01:04:07.420 --> 01:04:10.579
to me, I'm actually thinking... It could be just a

1121
01:04:10.619 --> 01:04:14.420
completely different alien or species or whatever you might want

1122
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.139
to call it. I don't think it has anything to

1123
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:16.840
do with.

1124
01:04:16.949 --> 01:04:18.969
No, wait, you don't have to tie it into something

1125
01:04:19.030 --> 01:04:21.190
that's happened before? It could be something new?

1126
01:04:21.210 --> 01:04:22.269
Oh, my God!

1127
01:04:23.909 --> 01:04:24.010
New!

1128
01:04:24.050 --> 01:04:24.690
New and blue.

1129
01:04:25.130 --> 01:04:29.050
But, yeah, it's the idea that, I mean, there have

1130
01:04:29.070 --> 01:04:32.650
been lots of aliens that apparently go with linear stuff. Like,

1131
01:04:32.849 --> 01:04:37.769
one of the episodes in TNG, remember that child that

1132
01:04:37.809 --> 01:04:43.920
appeared in... O'Brien and Keiko's quarters in front of their child.

1133
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:46.519
I think it was their child who was pretending to

1134
01:04:46.539 --> 01:04:48.460
be her friend and she was, like, imaginary.

1135
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:49.199
Yeah, yeah.

1136
01:04:49.699 --> 01:04:51.539
Yeah, I mean, she was, I would assume.

1137
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:52.340
Oh, yeah.

1138
01:04:52.460 --> 01:04:55.099
You're talking about Time's Orphan.

1139
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:56.460
Something like that, yeah.

1140
01:04:56.579 --> 01:04:56.820
Yeah.

1141
01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:59.300
I mean, she could have totally been a species that

1142
01:04:59.570 --> 01:05:02.190
didn't have to deal with linear stuff. So, to me,

1143
01:05:02.250 --> 01:05:04.929
I mean, it could be almost anything, really. And so

1144
01:05:04.969 --> 01:05:08.690
to tie it with something that's already in... Yeah, I mean,

1145
01:05:08.710 --> 01:05:11.090
it's an idea. It's an interesting idea where the prophet

1146
01:05:11.110 --> 01:05:15.460
came from or Vigor. But then again, Vigor, wasn't he

1147
01:05:15.500 --> 01:05:16.000
from Earth?

1148
01:05:16.659 --> 01:05:17.000
I don't know.

1149
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:23.440
But I read somewhere that somebody said that this could

1150
01:05:23.460 --> 01:05:24.590
be the beginning of the Borg.

1151
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:30.190
And I'm like, what? Nah, that can't be right. But yeah.

1152
01:05:30.269 --> 01:05:35.789
Anyways, other than that, the relationship brought on with the original.

1153
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:39.480
Let's see, what else?

1154
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:44.789
I actually enjoyed the conversation between Ahura, future Ahura, and Pike.

1155
01:05:45.429 --> 01:05:46.710
I thought that was really good, too.

1156
01:05:47.469 --> 01:05:50.030
It actually kind of made me think a little bit

1157
01:05:50.070 --> 01:05:55.110
about how much of an impact Pike actually had with

1158
01:05:55.150 --> 01:06:00.389
the actual TOS original crew back in the day. And

1159
01:06:00.530 --> 01:06:03.230
it makes me wonder now, why didn't Ahura go with

1160
01:06:03.289 --> 01:06:06.250
them on the away mission to go see Pike in

1161
01:06:06.269 --> 01:06:10.849
the chair? But yeah, I mean, you know. budget but other.

1162
01:06:10.210 --> 01:06:11.590
Than that yeah um.

1163
01:06:12.989 --> 01:06:15.570
If it wasn't for the space baby i would have

1164
01:06:15.610 --> 01:06:19.409
given this a 10 but i might actually still bump

1165
01:06:19.429 --> 01:06:21.050
it up to a 10 just because of the fact

1166
01:06:21.110 --> 01:06:24.889
that there was a lot of stuff that i really

1167
01:06:24.949 --> 01:06:28.949
enjoyed in fact seeing ms and eulerians that really bumped

1168
01:06:28.989 --> 01:06:30.909
up my score quite a bit so i yeah i'm

1169
01:06:30.949 --> 01:06:35.599
just gonna probably just go with a 10 I'm just

1170
01:06:35.619 --> 01:06:36.119
going to say it.

1171
01:06:36.139 --> 01:06:40.230
Ten. Final score. We're on fire tonight. Wow.

1172
01:06:40.469 --> 01:06:42.590
Oh, speaking of fire, I forgot my gloves.

1173
01:06:43.210 --> 01:06:43.989
Uh-oh.

1174
01:06:44.050 --> 01:06:48.590
We don't want to burn Charles. There you go. We

1175
01:06:49.130 --> 01:06:50.670
don't want Charles.

1176
01:06:50.369 --> 01:06:51.989
To catch on fire. Oh, I got my stock of

1177
01:06:52.050 --> 01:06:53.050
engineering gloves.

1178
01:06:54.699 --> 01:06:58.480
Or, well, we didn't start the fire.

1179
01:06:58.500 --> 01:07:00.960
No, but we did put it out.

1180
01:07:02.059 --> 01:07:03.239
Yeah, someone took my gloves.

1181
01:07:03.260 --> 01:07:04.260
I think Charles did.

1182
01:07:07.849 --> 01:07:10.690
Okay, now I go through my list because I'm trying

1183
01:07:10.710 --> 01:07:14.389
to keep track of notes. I love Leon tells her hurrah.

1184
01:07:14.909 --> 01:07:17.110
I can't tell you to go look for the target

1185
01:07:17.369 --> 01:07:21.239
of the distress call. It's like, okay, this is time

1186
01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:24.280
travel thing. I can't tell you what to do. Though

1187
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:28.800
I can say what you probably should do. I looked

1188
01:07:28.820 --> 01:07:31.260
at this and kind of caught because we had star

1189
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:34.590
dates in this one. 2873.2 and 2876.2, which I found

1190
01:07:34.610 --> 01:07:35.889
out goes to 2262 and 2263. I love that Ortega

1191
01:07:35.909 --> 01:07:37.610
is still in Starfleet. One of the characters we found out, okay,

1192
01:07:37.670 --> 01:07:39.909
she just moved on, but we're glad she's still around.

1193
01:07:39.929 --> 01:08:09.809
I love the Ohuras. Use of time to do tests. Oh,

1194
01:08:09.829 --> 01:08:14.769
what if I go ask Spock if this is possible

1195
01:08:15.489 --> 01:08:20.279
a year later, going to him and, oh, well, if

1196
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:21.739
you asked me a month ago, I would have given

1197
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:25.140
you a different answer, but here's the answer you're looking for.

1198
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:29.659
And you got to make a dilithium crystal, or not crystal,

1199
01:08:29.699 --> 01:08:34.390
but dilithium diamond. going back and telling her her and

1200
01:08:34.430 --> 01:08:37.810
making Scotty help her make a dot, make one of

1201
01:08:37.829 --> 01:08:43.180
the diamonds. So I love the use of the, of

1202
01:08:43.220 --> 01:08:48.119
a year's distance. And then I mentioned the fact that

1203
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:54.449
her 62 and her 63 switch spots. And that's why

1204
01:08:54.470 --> 01:08:57.529
that was interesting for them to have them integrate into

1205
01:08:57.750 --> 01:09:02.060
what was life for her past. and what was going

1206
01:09:02.100 --> 01:09:08.000
to be her future. And the fact that both Pike

1207
01:09:08.300 --> 01:09:12.850
and Kirk know they're Ahura's and knew there was something wrong,

1208
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:18.229
something different about them. I like the discussion of Ahura's

1209
01:09:18.310 --> 01:09:23.930
poker face. That she's good at poker. That's interesting to

1210
01:09:24.010 --> 01:09:31.590
see that she is. How interesting that Lon's future. They

1211
01:09:31.609 --> 01:09:36.300
won't discuss it. So we don't know what's going on

1212
01:09:36.310 --> 01:09:39.800
with Lon. That's still a mystery, which I think is

1213
01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:45.539
going to have to be solved next season. And David

1214
01:09:45.579 --> 01:09:50.270
talked about Pike. Pike and Uhura. And I love this

1215
01:09:50.329 --> 01:09:53.310
quote from him. I can't tell you what to do.

1216
01:09:54.100 --> 01:10:00.460
Only you can tell you what to do. And I

1217
01:10:00.500 --> 01:10:04.579
thought that's an interesting quote on time. You have to

1218
01:10:04.619 --> 01:10:10.289
make your decisions for you. I love the scene on

1219
01:10:10.329 --> 01:10:13.590
the ship. It's like Spock's like, I know what's going on.

1220
01:10:15.949 --> 01:10:22.180
Pike's like, you don't want to know. Well, I'm second command.

1221
01:10:22.220 --> 01:10:27.760
I should know. It's like, no, science officer. You should know. Okay, Spock,

1222
01:10:27.779 --> 01:10:28.680
the space baby.

1223
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:31.600
Okay.

1224
01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:35.510
It gives that look like, okay, maybe I shouldn't have asked.

1225
01:10:38.789 --> 01:10:41.329
And as we've been talking about when I mentioned the prophets,

1226
01:10:42.130 --> 01:10:44.989
I don't really tie these directly to the prophets. I

1227
01:10:45.350 --> 01:10:52.050
tie them to a similar being. As a prophets. They're

1228
01:10:52.069 --> 01:10:58.890
from different places. But they are similar in concept. And

1229
01:10:58.970 --> 01:11:02.920
I like the fact that we're dealing with. Such a

1230
01:11:02.979 --> 01:11:06.300
being that you never know what. Could happen with them.

1231
01:11:07.380 --> 01:11:09.560
But I love the fact that we brought them in.

1232
01:11:09.579 --> 01:11:14.550
As I said before, my trucks, the truck spurts did

1233
01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:17.029
come up with a lot more. I didn't get any

1234
01:11:17.050 --> 01:11:20.460
of the TAS stuff. And you guys caught a bunch

1235
01:11:20.539 --> 01:11:26.260
of animated stuff. But as we're saying, this episode kind

1236
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:28.420
of go with the flow. And it's like, that's why

1237
01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:33.180
I was, I sat there and started doing cadet review.

1238
01:11:33.220 --> 01:11:35.189
And it's like, well, we can tie that to this

1239
01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:38.529
and to this. All good things. But how many of

1240
01:11:38.550 --> 01:11:41.890
the episodes that I listed were considered some of the

1241
01:11:41.949 --> 01:11:52.449
great episodes? I was debating on maybe like a 9.8, 9.9,

1242
01:11:52.449 --> 01:11:54.630
but I'm going to follow the group with this one

1243
01:11:54.649 --> 01:11:58.520
and go with a 10. This is a 10. This

1244
01:11:58.810 --> 01:12:01.859
is the episode we needed for the season finale.

1245
01:12:05.340 --> 01:12:09.800
And, you know, Charles, you were mentioning the Ahura Pike conversation.

1246
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:13.199
And one of the things that made that conversation just

1247
01:12:14.310 --> 01:12:21.640
so emotional is that Uhura knows what Pike's future is,

1248
01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:24.890
but she doesn't know that Pike knows what his future is.

1249
01:12:25.689 --> 01:12:28.649
Because Pike already knows where he's going to be. But

1250
01:12:28.710 --> 01:12:32.069
she doesn't. But she doesn't tell him. She just thanks him,

1251
01:12:32.149 --> 01:12:34.689
which leads me to believe that she never got a

1252
01:12:34.710 --> 01:12:38.210
chance to express those feelings to him before that happened.

1253
01:12:38.909 --> 01:12:41.710
So now she got a chance to. It was such

1254
01:12:41.729 --> 01:12:44.930
a beautiful, beautiful act. Yes. I just can't get it

1255
01:12:45.010 --> 01:12:48.590
out of my head. It was just incredible. All right, well, Eric,

1256
01:12:49.220 --> 01:12:52.039
you get the caboose, buddy, and you've got a lot

1257
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:54.859
of pressure on you, buddy. You got a 10 from me,

1258
01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:59.619
a 10 from Whitney, a 10 from Vee, a hesitant

1259
01:12:59.619 --> 01:13:04.619
10 from David and a 10 from Charles. So you

1260
01:13:04.659 --> 01:13:07.470
got the flaming candle now and it's all up to you.

1261
01:13:07.510 --> 01:13:09.319
You got the caboose, buddy. All right.

1262
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:14.109
Well, you know, right from the get go, I really

1263
01:13:14.409 --> 01:13:18.670
was drawn into this episode. Not only was it Uhura focused,

1264
01:13:19.310 --> 01:13:21.630
but it starts out with a mystery. And if you

1265
01:13:21.670 --> 01:13:23.770
want to get me involved in something, give me a

1266
01:13:23.789 --> 01:13:27.430
mystery right up front. I thought that was fantastic. Obviously,

1267
01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:32.729
Like yesterday's Enterprise came to mind, as I said, mostly

1268
01:13:32.750 --> 01:13:35.489
at the beginning just because of the title of this episode.

1269
01:13:35.529 --> 01:13:37.649
But then once it kind of gets started, you see

1270
01:13:37.710 --> 01:13:40.289
parallels to that episode. So I really did like that.

1271
01:13:41.949 --> 01:13:45.489
The current time period even starts a little bit into

1272
01:13:45.510 --> 01:13:48.760
the future, right? Because Bones is apparently on the ship somewhere,

1273
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:51.500
just not being shown. So I thought that was kind

1274
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:53.760
of a fun little tie-in. And I like the way

1275
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:56.699
that they told the stories. I'm still making my way

1276
01:13:56.770 --> 01:14:00.369
through all of the Expanse books, but there are many

1277
01:14:00.430 --> 01:14:04.670
books that are written in a manner in which there's

1278
01:14:04.710 --> 01:14:07.569
a singular period of time and one chapter will tell

1279
01:14:07.770 --> 01:14:10.850
what happens during that period of time from one character's perspective.

1280
01:14:10.939 --> 01:14:13.560
And then the next chapter might tell that same period

1281
01:14:13.579 --> 01:14:16.180
of time, but from another character's perspective. And that's what

1282
01:14:16.220 --> 01:14:18.260
we get here. We kind of get like, I think

1283
01:14:18.300 --> 01:14:20.060
it was the first at least 20 minutes to a

1284
01:14:20.100 --> 01:14:22.789
half an hour of this was just the same scene

1285
01:14:22.850 --> 01:14:25.409
told from a couple of different perspectives. So I thought

1286
01:14:25.449 --> 01:14:28.500
that was like a really cool way to just tell

1287
01:14:28.539 --> 01:14:32.859
the story and connect the future and past Uhuras together.

1288
01:14:34.300 --> 01:14:37.699
When this picture right here, when Erica Ortega shows up

1289
01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:40.729
with that hair looking like a freaking rebel, I just

1290
01:14:40.810 --> 01:14:42.930
loved that moment. And I loved her kind of like

1291
01:14:42.970 --> 01:14:47.310
girl talk moment with her and Uhura talking about Scotty.

1292
01:14:48.060 --> 01:14:51.479
And then just like riffing about Scotty and, you know,

1293
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:53.649
it's just, it was really a sweet moment. So I,

1294
01:14:53.819 --> 01:14:59.000
I like that. Um, let me see the language, you know, anytime, uh,

1295
01:14:59.699 --> 01:15:02.939
we kind of get these sound based episodes. I always

1296
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:06.359
begin to start to think about close encounters and I

1297
01:15:06.420 --> 01:15:08.659
bring it up every single time, but you know, the,

1298
01:15:08.819 --> 01:15:11.739
that whole idea of like communicating through music, I find

1299
01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:14.380
fascinating and I love it every single time they bring

1300
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:17.430
it into Star Trek. I did have kind of an

1301
01:15:17.569 --> 01:15:20.369
oh crap moment where that shuttle blew up right in

1302
01:15:20.390 --> 01:15:23.149
the future and Scotty and Ortega's die. And I was like,

1303
01:15:23.210 --> 01:15:25.369
oh my God, what's happening right now? So I had

1304
01:15:25.390 --> 01:15:28.069
a little bit of a panic at that moment. I'm

1305
01:15:28.109 --> 01:15:31.029
glad they figured out how to resolve that with the story.

1306
01:15:32.539 --> 01:15:34.300
So many other cool things in this episode that you

1307
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:38.420
guys have already talked about a whole bunch. I want

1308
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:41.000
to talk just a little bit about Ethan Peck. So

1309
01:15:42.500 --> 01:15:44.420
we have talked all along about how much we like

1310
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:48.039
his Spock, about how we like kind of the directions

1311
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.279
that they've explored with Spock, you know, the more emotional side,

1312
01:15:51.340 --> 01:15:54.699
all this kind of stuff. I will say, though, in

1313
01:15:54.779 --> 01:15:56.989
my opinion, and I think this episode kind of brings

1314
01:15:57.029 --> 01:16:01.409
it home, Ethan Peck has a much harder time hiding

1315
01:16:01.430 --> 01:16:07.289
his natural heart-on-his-sleeve manner than Leonard Nimoy does. And there

1316
01:16:07.310 --> 01:16:10.250
are a couple of times during this episode when Spock

1317
01:16:10.369 --> 01:16:12.720
is reacting in such a way that if you were

1318
01:16:12.729 --> 01:16:14.720
to sort of compare the way that Nimoy would have

1319
01:16:14.850 --> 01:16:17.760
acted it versus the way that Peck acts it, there's

1320
01:16:17.779 --> 01:16:22.020
a little bit more of that kind of background restrained emotion.

1321
01:16:22.460 --> 01:16:24.399
I'm not saying that's a negative thing. I actually think

1322
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:27.180
it's kind of a cool complexity that they've added to

1323
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:32.250
the character that I feel like Peck in the future now, uh,

1324
01:16:33.090 --> 01:16:36.210
not future versus the show, but like future versus like

1325
01:16:36.270 --> 01:16:39.609
where Nimoy was performing, the character has a little bit

1326
01:16:39.670 --> 01:16:42.510
more experience and a little bit more like history and

1327
01:16:42.550 --> 01:16:44.109
stuff with that. So he's able to kind of bring

1328
01:16:44.140 --> 01:16:47.680
complexities to the character. I hope that made some sense.

1329
01:16:47.779 --> 01:16:50.000
I just am saying that I really dig the way that, uh,

1330
01:16:50.100 --> 01:16:52.920
Ethan Peck portrays this character and it is different from

1331
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:56.789
how Leonard Nimoy did it. Um, and I think that's okay. Um,

1332
01:16:58.140 --> 01:17:06.859
The idea of changing the past or knowing about the past,

1333
01:17:06.979 --> 01:17:10.300
this is a thing that comes up in Star Trek periodically.

1334
01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:14.399
It's a thing that I don't get tired of. I

1335
01:17:14.420 --> 01:17:16.479
get a little tired of just time travel for the

1336
01:17:16.510 --> 01:17:19.350
sake of time travel, but I don't get tired of

1337
01:17:19.409 --> 01:17:24.050
the idea of destiny or the idea that you have

1338
01:17:24.069 --> 01:17:28.689
to end up somewhere in order to achieve some kind

1339
01:17:28.710 --> 01:17:34.989
of goal that you're supposed to achieve. The cool thing

1340
01:17:35.029 --> 01:17:38.010
that was unique about this episode was that they set

1341
01:17:38.029 --> 01:17:41.039
these two timelines against one another. And you know the

1342
01:17:41.100 --> 01:17:44.699
second timeline isn't going to survive, right? We know Scotty's

1343
01:17:44.739 --> 01:17:48.550
not dead. We know. Like we kind of like go

1344
01:17:48.630 --> 01:17:50.989
into this episode knowing how it's going to turn out.

1345
01:17:51.470 --> 01:17:54.010
And yet still the performances and the writing were good

1346
01:17:54.050 --> 01:17:56.010
enough to kind of carry us through the whole thing.

1347
01:17:56.250 --> 01:17:59.659
So I don't know. I just appreciated that quite a bit.

1348
01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:05.819
Speaking of time travel, apparently Chapel has dated somebody from

1349
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:09.609
the Department of Temporal Investigations, right?

1350
01:18:11.029 --> 01:18:12.750
So I don't know.

1351
01:18:13.109 --> 01:18:16.680
Some woman from the Department of Temporal Investigation says Data Chapel.

1352
01:18:16.939 --> 01:18:18.739
I can't wait to learn more about that in the future.

1353
01:18:18.779 --> 01:18:23.560
That sounded kind of really cool. I will say that

1354
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.579
the moment that kind of made me just kind of

1355
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.760
lose my shit, so to speak, was like when Uhura

1356
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.340
was on the hull of the ship. I love hull shot.

1357
01:18:33.859 --> 01:18:36.489
There's something about hull shots that are just like so cool.

1358
01:18:36.909 --> 01:18:38.989
And she's out there doing her thing with the drones

1359
01:18:39.069 --> 01:18:40.470
and she's on the hull of the ship. And it

1360
01:18:40.510 --> 01:18:43.199
was like a, I don't know, there was like this

1361
01:18:43.260 --> 01:18:45.619
visceral moment where I kind of got goosebumps and I just,

1362
01:18:45.890 --> 01:18:49.149
I really appreciate how Star Trek Strange New Worlds and

1363
01:18:49.170 --> 01:18:52.079
Star Trek Discovery have chosen to celebrate not only women

1364
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:54.569
but like celebrate people of color and just like really

1365
01:18:55.210 --> 01:18:58.149
show that these are leaders just like all the rest

1366
01:18:58.189 --> 01:19:00.829
of us and stuff and I just thought that was

1367
01:19:00.869 --> 01:19:02.869
a really special moment that kind of gave me a

1368
01:19:02.930 --> 01:19:06.329
little bit of goosebumps. So, um, awesome. Um, I probably

1369
01:19:06.369 --> 01:19:08.710
need like in conclusion, I probably need to watch this

1370
01:19:08.750 --> 01:19:10.590
episode again. Cause I feel like there was a lot

1371
01:19:10.630 --> 01:19:13.310
that I just want to see again. And anytime that

1372
01:19:13.350 --> 01:19:15.569
I want to watch an episode over and over again,

1373
01:19:15.590 --> 01:19:18.409
I know that it's a special episode. There were so

1374
01:19:18.449 --> 01:19:21.449
many episodes this season that I was just like, I'm

1375
01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:24.439
literally never going to watch that episode again. This one

1376
01:19:24.449 --> 01:19:28.380
I will watch over and and over and over again.

1377
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.779
And I will recommend it to friends who want to

1378
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:35.140
know like what Star Trek is all about. Like to me,

1379
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:37.590
this is one of those ones that's a little bit special.

1380
01:19:38.229 --> 01:19:41.329
So I absolutely gave this one a 10. It's right

1381
01:19:41.369 --> 01:19:44.050
up there at the creme de la creme level of

1382
01:19:44.250 --> 01:19:48.449
all Star Trek. And after this podcast is done, I'm

1383
01:19:48.550 --> 01:19:49.449
going to go watch it again.

1384
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:55.140
Well, you know what? I'm no math genius. But I

1385
01:19:55.159 --> 01:19:57.069
don't even think we have to have Charles do the

1386
01:19:57.090 --> 01:20:00.439
math on that one to know what the Tuxports gave it.

1387
01:20:00.449 --> 01:20:01.229
Seems pretty clear.

1388
01:20:01.250 --> 01:20:02.710
Pretty clear.

1389
01:20:02.750 --> 01:20:05.369
We gave it a solid 10 compared to... I.

1390
01:20:05.270 --> 01:20:07.449
Thought it was a 9.9.

1391
01:20:07.449 --> 01:20:11.619
Well, yeah. David gave it a 9.999.

1392
01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:11.800
So.

1393
01:20:11.899 --> 01:20:18.699
Actually, Jim, I'm going to bring up some other details.

1394
01:20:25.789 --> 01:20:31.729
Yes, the fans gave it a 9.5 to our 10. Now, overall,

1395
01:20:33.310 --> 01:20:38.829
based on our polls and our votes, the fans gave

1396
01:20:38.909 --> 01:20:44.039
this season an 8, which is actually the lowest score

1397
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:51.890
for Starfleet because the lowest previously was an 8.1. The

1398
01:20:52.010 --> 01:20:58.779
host gave this season a 7.4. So it's interesting to

1399
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:00.880
see what the roller coaster of the season was.

1400
01:21:00.899 --> 01:21:07.439
That's actually pretty surprising. I would have put both of

1401
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:12.310
those numbers lower just based on mentally what we've talked

1402
01:21:12.350 --> 01:21:15.069
about this season. Is it because negative stuff sticks more

1403
01:21:15.109 --> 01:21:16.170
than positive stuff does?

1404
01:21:16.189 --> 01:21:17.060
Is that what it is?

1405
01:21:18.220 --> 01:21:20.439
I don't know. I can share the spreadsheet with you,

1406
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:22.869
but I've got the whole list of exactly where the

1407
01:21:22.909 --> 01:21:24.250
numbers went.

1408
01:21:24.270 --> 01:21:28.250
No, I believe your maths. It's just all about like.

1409
01:21:28.850 --> 01:21:31.170
Next week, we're going to talk about that very topic.

1410
01:21:31.289 --> 01:21:32.130
Oh, yeah, that's right.

1411
01:21:32.369 --> 01:21:34.090
We're going to go over that. We're going to review

1412
01:21:34.729 --> 01:21:36.850
the entire season. We're going to give you guys our

1413
01:21:37.270 --> 01:21:40.699
favorite episode, our must-see episode, which I got a feeling

1414
01:21:40.779 --> 01:21:46.680
is this one, and the must-not-see episode, of Season 4.

1415
01:21:46.670 --> 01:21:48.979
So we're going to talk about that next week when

1416
01:21:49.060 --> 01:21:52.159
Paul is back. So that's something for you guys to

1417
01:21:52.199 --> 01:21:55.640
look forward to. And that wraps up our review of

1418
01:21:55.739 --> 01:22:00.439
Star Trek Strange New Worlds Season 4, Episode 10, Tomorrow's Enterprise. Whitney,

1419
01:22:00.460 --> 01:22:03.840
did you have a good time? Did you enjoy your

1420
01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:06.300
visiting Trek-sport-ism?

1421
01:22:07.430 --> 01:22:09.409
You know, I think the most stress that I've had

1422
01:22:09.430 --> 01:22:12.130
this entire time has been from the cat going up

1423
01:22:12.250 --> 01:22:13.409
above my screen.

1424
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:16.500
And threatening to jump on my laptop.

1425
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:20.340
I thought I would be a little more stressed, you know,

1426
01:22:20.359 --> 01:22:23.180
trying to talk in front of a camera, but not

1427
01:22:23.399 --> 01:22:24.699
so much. It's actually been fun.

1428
01:22:25.850 --> 01:22:28.529
I knew that you would be a natural. I just

1429
01:22:28.670 --> 01:22:31.890
knew it. Now I just got to get you on

1430
01:22:31.949 --> 01:22:33.390
a panel at Triconoroga.

1431
01:22:33.989 --> 01:22:36.090
Yeah, that would be harder.

1432
01:22:36.109 --> 01:22:38.970
Speaking of natural, though, I wanted to tack on to

1433
01:22:39.010 --> 01:22:42.810
something Ahura. that time travel, um, I had forgotten about

1434
01:22:42.850 --> 01:22:46.310
that where she did the dilithium diamond. Um, that kind

1435
01:22:46.350 --> 01:22:48.810
of makes her a natural time traveler. She was really

1436
01:22:48.869 --> 01:22:52.430
spectacular in that. Very smart.

1437
01:22:53.350 --> 01:22:55.789
When she says to herself, if only we had more

1438
01:22:55.869 --> 01:23:01.029
time and the other horse says like a year. And

1439
01:23:01.069 --> 01:23:04.609
so she was able to, to build it across time.

1440
01:23:04.670 --> 01:23:05.649
I thought that was brilliant.

1441
01:23:06.050 --> 01:23:08.289
And the other, the other thing, um, I think it

1442
01:23:08.329 --> 01:23:12.420
was Eric that mentioned it. Um, was Ethan Peck, his

1443
01:23:12.500 --> 01:23:18.590
performance here, he does have that less logical, stoic thing,

1444
01:23:18.649 --> 01:23:21.210
but I think in this episode, he almost had more

1445
01:23:21.369 --> 01:23:24.189
of that, and I think that was interesting, because I

1446
01:23:24.250 --> 01:23:26.850
almost saw him as the later Spock.

1447
01:23:28.489 --> 01:23:29.729
Almost. Not quite.

1448
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:31.739
Which I thought was kind of tying.

1449
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:32.060
It in nicely.

1450
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:35.039
There was that one scene on the bridge where they

1451
01:23:35.060 --> 01:23:38.779
were talking about poker and gambling, and Boyce and Uhura

1452
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:42.060
were ribbing on him, and he kind of just says humans.

1453
01:23:43.060 --> 01:23:45.340
And he kind of, I heard, I could hear Leonard Nimoy's,

1454
01:23:45.899 --> 01:23:48.699
I heard Leonard Nimoy say it the way he said it.

1455
01:23:48.739 --> 01:23:52.579
I thought it was totally channeled, totally channeled it. Did I,

1456
01:23:52.619 --> 01:23:55.159
did I ever mention how I got to meet Ethan

1457
01:23:55.220 --> 01:23:56.720
Peck this past March?

1458
01:23:58.899 --> 01:23:59.460
No.

1459
01:24:00.060 --> 01:24:00.859
Yeah. Yeah.

1460
01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:04.600
Well, it's like only my, the, like my current Facebook

1461
01:24:04.659 --> 01:24:09.649
profile picture, but, um, just being able to tell him, cause, um,

1462
01:24:10.340 --> 01:24:13.539
How he, I think he's doing a marvelous job as

1463
01:24:13.779 --> 01:24:18.819
Spock and that he definitely has the acting chops from

1464
01:24:18.899 --> 01:24:20.930
his grandfather, Gregory Peck.

1465
01:24:20.979 --> 01:24:22.329
So, yep.

1466
01:24:22.409 --> 01:24:26.090
And he's handsome as heck, too. So that helps.

1467
01:24:26.489 --> 01:24:29.310
Sexy cyborg. Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1468
01:24:29.989 --> 01:24:31.329
Now we just need to get him on the show.

1469
01:24:32.149 --> 01:24:32.729
Oh, my word.

1470
01:24:32.850 --> 01:24:35.720
I gave him, I gave him the card. And he

1471
01:24:35.819 --> 01:24:40.439
said he would consider it. So, but I haven't heard, so.

1472
01:24:40.470 --> 01:24:43.810
That means you basically went on a date with him, B.

1473
01:24:44.409 --> 01:24:45.609
Oh, sure. I wish.

1474
01:24:46.409 --> 01:24:47.689
I wish, I wish, I wish.

1475
01:24:48.609 --> 01:24:50.409
Oh, my God. Did I ever tell you guys a

1476
01:24:50.449 --> 01:24:53.869
story about meeting John Delancey at Trek Con Aroga? Yeah, yeah.

1477
01:24:53.890 --> 01:24:56.340
We're not going to tell that story right now.

1478
01:24:56.350 --> 01:24:59.779
Did I ever tell you the story about meeting Ethan

1479
01:24:59.819 --> 01:25:01.140
Peck at Trek Con Aroga?

1480
01:25:03.090 --> 01:25:04.289
You have, but you can tell.

1481
01:25:04.529 --> 01:25:06.880
Is it in the same room?

1482
01:25:06.899 --> 01:25:10.020
It was in a different room.

1483
01:25:10.460 --> 01:25:12.199
It was in a different room.

1484
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:12.979
Thank goodness.

1485
01:25:13.060 --> 01:25:18.960
It was in a different room. So guys, I think

1486
01:25:19.020 --> 01:25:22.149
that next time we have a truck spurt that's going

1487
01:25:22.170 --> 01:25:25.149
to be absent, we can have Whitney step in. What

1488
01:25:25.170 --> 01:25:27.649
do you think? I think Whitney was a natural at it.

1489
01:25:28.710 --> 01:25:32.510
I think she fits right in with our aura of excellence.

1490
01:25:33.810 --> 01:25:35.720
I can't think of a better name.

1491
01:25:35.729 --> 01:25:38.220
I'm quite honored. Thank you.

1492
01:25:39.300 --> 01:25:43.760
I'm going to have to get you a truck talking t-shirt.

1493
01:25:43.819 --> 01:25:46.199
Make it official. There we go. I'll bring it into

1494
01:25:46.260 --> 01:25:49.710
work when I come back. I got a couple left here.

1495
01:25:49.729 --> 01:25:55.340
And that'll make it official. I'm glad that you... were

1496
01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:57.300
able to join us and that you enjoyed yourself.

1497
01:25:57.340 --> 01:25:58.020
Me too.

1498
01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:03.170
Freck talking with us. And Five Cats, who's watching us

1499
01:26:03.229 --> 01:26:07.270
in the chat. Thank you for putting up with us.

1500
01:26:08.189 --> 01:26:09.729
Do we know who Five Cats is?

1501
01:26:10.350 --> 01:26:11.130
I have a feeling.

1502
01:26:11.149 --> 01:26:12.590
But it could be one of.

1503
01:26:12.590 --> 01:26:13.350
A few people.

1504
01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:20.239
Let's let's say hello to five cats hi five cats

1505
01:26:21.989 --> 01:26:24.949
my uh my cat anakin is not here right now

1506
01:26:24.970 --> 01:26:27.289
but my dog leia is and she's laying right here

1507
01:26:27.350 --> 01:26:30.090
at my feet i'm surprised she didn't make an appearance

1508
01:26:30.109 --> 01:26:32.899
sometimes she does but she didn't feel like it tonight

1509
01:26:32.909 --> 01:26:35.579
all right so that wraps up our review we got

1510
01:26:35.619 --> 01:26:37.939
a long way to go before we can talk about

1511
01:26:37.979 --> 01:26:42.670
strange new worlds again a whole year unfortunately. We do

1512
01:26:42.710 --> 01:26:45.529
have Starfleet Academy Season 2 coming up, so we'll talk

1513
01:26:45.569 --> 01:26:48.319
about that. Next week, we're going to do a recap

1514
01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:51.079
of Season 4, so you don't want to miss that.

1515
01:26:51.739 --> 01:26:55.520
But now, now is a fun part of the show,

1516
01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:02.100
because now it's time for our Star Trek birthday!

1517
01:27:02.340 --> 01:27:05.619
Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek

1518
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:06.199
Star Trek.

1519
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:13.720
Don't lock up your doll, Laura.

1520
01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:22.659
That was not a Klingon song.

1521
01:27:22.739 --> 01:27:25.010
Grumpy Wolf says that every week. We don't care. We

1522
01:27:25.020 --> 01:27:28.649
like it. I think I didn't add Whitney to our

1523
01:27:28.890 --> 01:27:31.510
official chat, but I think I will so that in

1524
01:27:31.529 --> 01:27:36.020
the future... Whitney will have fan shout-outs and birthdays to do,

1525
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:41.600
so I apologize, Whitney. So, Eric, we always start off by,

1526
01:27:41.739 --> 01:27:44.579
sadly enough, remembering those members of our Star Trek family,

1527
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:48.439
or the sci-fi family, who are no longer with us. So, Eric,

1528
01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:49.479
take it away.

1529
01:27:49.699 --> 01:27:52.460
Yeah, Jim, this week we are starting beyond, and we

1530
01:27:52.500 --> 01:27:55.819
are saying happy birthday to the late Christopher Reeve. Hard

1531
01:27:55.859 --> 01:27:57.500
to believe that we lost him all the way back

1532
01:27:57.560 --> 01:27:57.739
in 2004?

1533
01:27:57.739 --> 01:27:57.979
Yeah.

1534
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:02.920
That seems crazy to me. But he, of course, portrayed

1535
01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:08.789
Superman slash Clark Kent in Superman the movie, Superman 2, 3,

1536
01:28:08.789 --> 01:28:11.989
and 4, The Quest for Peace. He also portrayed Dr.

1537
01:28:12.069 --> 01:28:15.970
Virgil Swan on the Smallville TV show, appearing in the

1538
01:28:16.050 --> 01:28:20.289
second season episode, Rosetta, and the fourth season episode, Legacy.

1539
01:28:21.890 --> 01:28:26.220
As we know, a CGI recreation of Christopher Reeve appeared

1540
01:28:26.779 --> 01:28:31.600
again briefly in as Superman in the Flash movie from 2023,

1541
01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:36.770
alongside a recreation of Helen Slater's version of the Supergirl

1542
01:28:37.149 --> 01:28:41.789
movie character. So Christopher Reeve... of course, did plenty of

1543
01:28:41.829 --> 01:28:45.100
other things in his life. At one point, suffered a

1544
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:49.739
terrible accident, but still continued to be an advocate and

1545
01:28:49.939 --> 01:28:55.300
a luminary for all actors around the world. So happy

1546
01:28:55.340 --> 01:28:57.819
birthday and lots of love going out to the late

1547
01:28:57.899 --> 01:29:03.960
Christopher Reeve. Happy birthday as well to Roger C. Carmel,

1548
01:29:04.100 --> 01:29:06.319
one of my favorites. He, of course, was famous for

1549
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:12.050
playing hardcore Fenton Mudd in the TOS first and second

1550
01:29:12.060 --> 01:29:15.689
season episodes Mudd's Women and I, Mudd. He also voiced

1551
01:29:15.710 --> 01:29:20.270
the character in the animated series first season episode Mudd's Passion.

1552
01:29:22.090 --> 01:29:25.479
Roger began working in television in the early 1960s, appearing

1553
01:29:25.529 --> 01:29:28.770
on programs such as Naked City, Car 54, Where Are You?,

1554
01:29:29.300 --> 01:29:32.100
The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Munsters, one of my favorites,

1555
01:29:32.699 --> 01:29:36.220
and The Man from UNCLE. In 1980, Carmel won the

1556
01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:40.079
regular role of Lawrence Brody in the NBC series Fritz

1557
01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:42.899
and Bones, on which he co-starred with Star Trek The

1558
01:29:42.939 --> 01:29:46.229
Next Generation actress Diana Mulder.

1559
01:29:46.270 --> 01:29:47.149
That's right.

1560
01:29:47.229 --> 01:29:50.390
Yeah, 1980, she was working with him.

1561
01:29:52.630 --> 01:29:56.550
After the failure, unfortunately, of that television show, Carmel performed

1562
01:29:57.090 --> 01:29:59.890
primarily as a voice actor, most notably for the animated

1563
01:29:59.930 --> 01:30:04.720
series Transformers, on which Michael Bell also worked, as well

1564
01:30:04.729 --> 01:30:07.800
as the Transformers movie with Bell, and most famously for

1565
01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:11.180
Trek fans, Leonard Nimoy, who of course played Galvatron.

1566
01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:14.439
It's the 40th anniversary of Transformers. I was literally just

1567
01:30:14.460 --> 01:30:17.140
in the movie theater about two weeks ago seeing it

1568
01:30:17.180 --> 01:30:19.300
for the first time on the big screen because I

1569
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:22.079
didn't see it in 1986 when it first came out.

1570
01:30:22.579 --> 01:30:25.539
But it was really cool to see, or to hear

1571
01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:30.529
his voice, rather, in that. Again, he, of course, voiced

1572
01:30:30.609 --> 01:30:38.840
some of the most terrifying voices on the Transformers, including Bruticus, Cyclonus, Metasar, Motormaster,

1573
01:30:39.260 --> 01:30:44.340
the Quintesson leader, and actually Unicron himself, as well as

1574
01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:50.550
the disgruntled businessman. Yeah, he played that part too. He

1575
01:30:50.569 --> 01:30:53.369
was also the voice of Smokey the Bear in countless

1576
01:30:53.569 --> 01:30:58.340
Forest Service public service commercials throughout the 1970s and 1980s

1577
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:01.939
um and the last thing i always love to mention

1578
01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:04.500
is that if he he of course showed up in

1579
01:31:04.539 --> 01:31:08.899
the old tv series batman one of my one of

1580
01:31:08.939 --> 01:31:12.229
my deep loves um so roger c carmel i would

1581
01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:13.699
have loved to have met you man you did some

1582
01:31:13.739 --> 01:31:16.090
cool stuff and you're quite the character when it comes

1583
01:31:16.130 --> 01:31:19.409
to uh playing harry mudd happy birthday to you Happy

1584
01:31:19.430 --> 01:31:22.050
birthday as well to Richard Hurd, the American actor who

1585
01:31:22.090 --> 01:31:24.770
played Owen Parris in the sixth and seventh seasons of

1586
01:31:24.810 --> 01:31:28.189
Star Trek Voyager. He also played LaCour in the Next

1587
01:31:28.229 --> 01:31:32.880
Generation six-season episodes Birthrights Part 1 and Part 2. He's

1588
01:31:33.380 --> 01:31:37.220
perhaps best known for his role as the Visitor Supreme

1589
01:31:37.300 --> 01:31:41.859
Commander John in the science fiction miniseries V from 1983, which.

1590
01:31:43.689 --> 01:31:45.939
I know myself and especially Jim have a lot of

1591
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.520
affinity for. He's also known for starring opposite William Shatner

1592
01:31:49.939 --> 01:31:53.500
in TJ Hooker. I know Jim loved that show. And

1593
01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:58.619
for playing Admiral Noyce on the series Sequest DSV. Another banger.

1594
01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:01.460
This guy's been everywhere. And for his role.

1595
01:32:02.210 --> 01:32:04.409
When they ripped the side of his face off and

1596
01:32:04.449 --> 01:32:06.630
you saw the wizard's skin and that red eye.

1597
01:32:06.850 --> 01:32:09.409
It was like, yeah, forget about it.

1598
01:32:09.489 --> 01:32:13.310
It traumatized me as a kid for decades.

1599
01:32:13.380 --> 01:32:17.000
It traumatized me as almost, I think I was a

1600
01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:18.079
young adult.

1601
01:32:18.699 --> 01:32:19.619
It traumatized me.

1602
01:32:19.699 --> 01:32:21.079
It's traumatizing me just hearing it.

1603
01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:24.520
I was 10 then. When Diana was eating, eats the gerbil.

1604
01:32:28.789 --> 01:32:31.210
She holds a gerbil up and opens her mouth and

1605
01:32:31.229 --> 01:32:32.930
swallows the whole gerbil.

1606
01:32:33.090 --> 01:32:34.430
Another level of traumatized.

1607
01:32:34.449 --> 01:32:40.350
That TV show was just sick for the time.

1608
01:32:42.109 --> 01:32:43.100
But it was a lot of fun.

1609
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:44.800
But it was fun.

1610
01:32:46.180 --> 01:32:47.880
And it had Richard Hurd memories.

1611
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.140
Yes, absolutely. A lot of good memories, yes.

1612
01:32:51.819 --> 01:32:54.350
So at one point, Heard was actually the third national

1613
01:32:54.409 --> 01:32:57.229
vice president of the Screen Actors Guild, and he was

1614
01:32:57.449 --> 01:33:01.670
also a member of the Enterprise Blues Band, a musical

1615
01:33:01.689 --> 01:33:06.640
group that writes and performs songs about Star Trek. He

1616
01:33:06.770 --> 01:33:12.560
was a singer, an instrument player, a mouse eater, guy

1617
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:16.479
all over the place. Happy birthday and lots of love

1618
01:33:16.500 --> 01:33:20.369
going out to Richard Heard. Happy birthday as well to

1619
01:33:20.449 --> 01:33:23.510
William Wyndham, the actor from New York City who is

1620
01:33:23.529 --> 01:33:27.500
well-known for his portrayal of Commodore Matt Decker on the

1621
01:33:27.619 --> 01:33:30.439
TOS second season episode, The Doomsday Machine, the guy with

1622
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:34.920
the half beard and the drunken stare. In 2004, he

1623
01:33:35.020 --> 01:33:39.390
reprised the role of Commodore Matt Decker in the Harms

1624
01:33:39.529 --> 01:33:43.149
Way episode of the fan series Star Trek New Voyages,

1625
01:33:43.210 --> 01:33:46.590
which if you haven't seen that, highly recommend that. Not canon,

1626
01:33:46.630 --> 01:33:50.920
but still super cool. William, excuse me, Wyndham won an

1627
01:33:51.159 --> 01:33:54.479
Emmy Award in 1970 for his performance on the short-lived

1628
01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:58.369
James Thurber sitcom My World and Welcome to It.

1629
01:33:58.390 --> 01:33:58.659
I watched it.

1630
01:33:59.010 --> 01:33:59.810
Yep, I watched that.

1631
01:33:59.829 --> 01:34:00.329
Did you really?

1632
01:34:00.470 --> 01:34:01.329
Okay, cool.

1633
01:34:01.369 --> 01:34:02.130
Yes, I did.

1634
01:34:02.670 --> 01:34:06.550
Well, there you go. I have not seen that one. However,

1635
01:34:06.850 --> 01:34:10.949
Wyndham is probably best known for his reoccurring role as Dr.

1636
01:34:11.050 --> 01:34:14.329
Seth Hazlitt on the hit mystery series Murder, She Wrote,

1637
01:34:15.010 --> 01:34:21.020
co-starring Michael Horton. and the amazing Angela Lansbury, by the way,

1638
01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:24.340
not Star Trek adjacent, but still super cool. He was

1639
01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:28.590
very prolific. He has over 250 credits on his IMDb page,

1640
01:34:28.630 --> 01:34:31.229
so I encourage you to go check out all the

1641
01:34:31.289 --> 01:34:34.289
things that William Wyndham did in his many years on

1642
01:34:34.310 --> 01:34:36.449
this planet. We lost him at 88 years old back

1643
01:34:36.489 --> 01:34:40.789
in 2012. Happy birthday to William Wyndham. And last but

1644
01:34:40.829 --> 01:34:43.649
not least, we go beyond one last time and say

1645
01:34:43.710 --> 01:34:47.770
happy birthday to Cindy Morgan, best known for her portrayal

1646
01:34:48.449 --> 01:34:55.010
of the Tron characters Laura Baines and Yori. In 2003,

1647
01:34:55.010 --> 01:34:59.250
she lent her voice talents to the video game Tron 2.0

1648
01:34:59.250 --> 01:35:02.750
for the character, I'm not sure how to pronounce this, Masa?

1649
01:35:02.989 --> 01:35:05.270
Is that how you say it?

1650
01:35:05.770 --> 01:35:07.090
M-A-3-A? Mathria?

1651
01:35:07.909 --> 01:35:11.909
I don't know. As Lacey Underall. She also played Lacey

1652
01:35:11.970 --> 01:35:16.090
Underall in Caddyshack from 1980, which we have a picture

1653
01:35:16.229 --> 01:35:19.010
of with, of course, Bill Murray with that. that famous

1654
01:35:19.069 --> 01:35:20.550
face in the Bush's eyes.

1655
01:35:21.029 --> 01:35:22.350
Lacey Underhill.

1656
01:35:23.289 --> 01:35:23.569
Yeah.

1657
01:35:23.789 --> 01:35:26.479
I'm sorry.

1658
01:35:26.720 --> 01:35:27.399
It's a great name.

1659
01:35:27.489 --> 01:35:31.680
I gotta tell you guys, this one is special to

1660
01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:35.180
me because believe it or not, the very first date

1661
01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:37.319
that I took my wife on when we were in

1662
01:35:37.340 --> 01:35:43.149
high school was to see Tron in 1982. She hated it.

1663
01:35:43.899 --> 01:35:46.289
She thought it was the worst movie ever. She still

1664
01:35:46.310 --> 01:35:49.680
hates it. But she's still married to me. She's still here.

1665
01:35:49.699 --> 01:35:53.060
And we pull it out on our anniversary, and I

1666
01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:55.020
make her watch it. The blood comes out of her

1667
01:35:55.159 --> 01:35:56.619
eyes and everything, but she watches it.

1668
01:35:57.279 --> 01:36:00.500
And every anniversary, she's like, I hate you so much.

1669
01:36:00.539 --> 01:36:03.010
But I will tell you another interesting story, though.

1670
01:36:03.100 --> 01:36:04.829
I hate you so very, very much.

1671
01:36:06.850 --> 01:36:11.189
Did you guys get a chance to see Tron Ares? Oh, yeah.

1672
01:36:11.710 --> 01:36:13.789
So when Tron Ares came out, we don't have any

1673
01:36:13.810 --> 01:36:15.529
movie theaters here, so we have to go all the

1674
01:36:15.550 --> 01:36:18.590
way up to Middlebury to see it. And my wife

1675
01:36:18.630 --> 01:36:20.890
said to me one Saturday, hey, you want to go

1676
01:36:20.930 --> 01:36:23.289
see that new Tron movie? I almost fell out of

1677
01:36:23.329 --> 01:36:26.130
my chair. I'm like, you want to go see a

1678
01:36:26.170 --> 01:36:29.489
Tron movie? She says, yeah. So we go up to

1679
01:36:29.510 --> 01:36:32.529
Middlebury to see the Tron movie. And it was me

1680
01:36:32.569 --> 01:36:35.750
and my wife and two other people in the empty theater.

1681
01:36:36.770 --> 01:36:39.289
Who were those two other people? You're never going to guess.

1682
01:36:39.409 --> 01:36:41.250
You'll never guess in a million years.

1683
01:36:42.949 --> 01:36:45.109
Lawrence Luck and Bill.

1684
01:36:45.220 --> 01:36:46.949
One of them is right here with us now.

1685
01:36:48.300 --> 01:36:51.039
Oh, Whitney was there. Yay. Yes.

1686
01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:54.859
And I did not know that Whitney was there. Nor

1687
01:36:55.460 --> 01:36:59.600
the other way around. The next day at work, I

1688
01:36:59.619 --> 01:37:01.609
was talking about Tron, and she said, oh, I went

1689
01:37:01.630 --> 01:37:04.409
to see it too. And come to find out, Whitney

1690
01:37:04.489 --> 01:37:07.270
and Dale were the other two people in the theater

1691
01:37:07.289 --> 01:37:08.989
with us seeing Tron.

1692
01:37:09.810 --> 01:37:10.470
That's funny.

1693
01:37:10.689 --> 01:37:12.350
We noticed there were only two other people in the

1694
01:37:12.369 --> 01:37:14.399
theater too, and I'm like, wow. We're kind of by

1695
01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:19.239
ourselves pretty much. And we almost ended up at the same.

1696
01:37:19.140 --> 01:37:19.819
Restaurant, too.

1697
01:37:20.899 --> 01:37:23.140
Yeah, there's a nice little restaurant up there that we

1698
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:27.310
usually go to after the movie, but it didn't happen. So, yeah,

1699
01:37:27.810 --> 01:37:30.470
I went to see Tron Aries, and so did Whitney,

1700
01:37:31.369 --> 01:37:35.590
in honor of our anniversary. So that's my Tron story. Okay,

1701
01:37:35.609 --> 01:37:36.029
that's all.

1702
01:37:37.470 --> 01:37:39.970
Well, thank you, Jim, for capping the end of it.

1703
01:37:40.010 --> 01:37:43.199
Cindy Morgan lost just a couple years ago in 2024.

1704
01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:45.840
Happy birthday to her. And that does it for our

1705
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:49.960
remembrances this week. So I would love to pass what

1706
01:37:50.100 --> 01:37:54.119
actually is flaming me, which is a birthday candle.

1707
01:37:54.260 --> 01:37:54.920
Over to you.

1708
01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:58.350
Thank you. Thank you, Eric.

1709
01:37:58.619 --> 01:37:59.199
I don't even.

1710
01:37:59.229 --> 01:38:00.270
Yeah, I have.

1711
01:38:00.649 --> 01:38:01.310
Yeah, I don't know.

1712
01:38:01.630 --> 01:38:01.909
I don't know.

1713
01:38:01.970 --> 01:38:02.489
It's OK.

1714
01:38:02.649 --> 01:38:03.090
It's OK.

1715
01:38:03.210 --> 01:38:05.489
I still love you. Thank you.

1716
01:38:06.729 --> 01:38:07.270
Thank you.

1717
01:38:07.350 --> 01:38:07.770
Thank you.

1718
01:38:08.569 --> 01:38:08.909
All right.

1719
01:38:08.949 --> 01:38:12.130
Well, my first happy birthday goes out to Beth Toussaint.

1720
01:38:13.020 --> 01:38:19.270
who played Ishara Yar in TNG fourth season episode Legacy.

1721
01:38:19.289 --> 01:38:26.930
Of course, Tasha's sister. Then, ooh, happy birthday to Linda Hamilton.

1722
01:38:27.689 --> 01:38:33.060
She's known for portraying tough resilient characters and she made

1723
01:38:33.079 --> 01:38:38.210
her film debut starring as sarah connor in the terminator

1724
01:38:38.270 --> 01:38:43.489
which i saw in the you know, seeing all this

1725
01:38:43.630 --> 01:38:46.949
AI stuff and when they had the Robot Olympics in

1726
01:38:47.029 --> 01:38:51.970
China recently, it's like, did nobody watch the Terminator movies?

1727
01:38:52.409 --> 01:38:57.409
It does not end well for people. So, but yeah,

1728
01:38:57.430 --> 01:39:00.350
I always think of Skynet. Every time I see robots

1729
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:05.760
or hear about AI, Skynet, right? So, let's see. She

1730
01:39:05.779 --> 01:39:09.500
was in Terminator, two of its sequels, Terminator 2, Judgment Day,

1731
01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:10.500
and Terminator.

1732
01:39:12.529 --> 01:39:17.279
Dark Fate. She's the recipient of two Saturn Awards, two

1733
01:39:17.460 --> 01:39:21.899
MTV Movie Awards, a Satellite Award, and a Romy Award,

1734
01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:26.159
as well as nominations for three Golden Globes and one

1735
01:39:26.340 --> 01:39:32.250
Primetime Emmy. Her other film credits include Children of the Corn,

1736
01:39:32.689 --> 01:39:38.890
Black Moon Rising, King Kong Lives, Dante's Peak, and on television,

1737
01:39:39.109 --> 01:39:43.720
she starred as Catherine Chandler in In Beauty and the Beast.

1738
01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:46.090
Anybody know who portrayed the Beast?

1739
01:39:48.550 --> 01:39:49.550
Like the actor's name?

1740
01:39:49.789 --> 01:39:50.529
Yes, yes.

1741
01:39:51.770 --> 01:39:51.909
Ron.

1742
01:39:51.949 --> 01:39:56.289
Yeah, it's that guy. It's the same guy that plays Hellboy.

1743
01:39:56.310 --> 01:40:00.109
Yeah, Ron Perlman. And I watched that show. I watched

1744
01:40:00.170 --> 01:40:02.369
Beauty and the Beast because it was so romantic.

1745
01:40:02.729 --> 01:40:03.010
Yeah.

1746
01:40:04.140 --> 01:40:04.380
Ooh.

1747
01:40:05.319 --> 01:40:09.539
Wow, this is a big one. Happy birthday to Mark Hamill.

1748
01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:13.380
Of course, he played Luke Skywalker in the original and

1749
01:40:13.460 --> 01:40:17.880
sequel Star Wars trilogies, leading to further lead parts in

1750
01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:23.149
films like Corvette Summer and Samuel Fuller's The Big Red One.

1751
01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:26.649
Oh, sorry, V.

1752
01:40:26.890 --> 01:40:29.210
I just want to mention, I feel like it would

1753
01:40:29.229 --> 01:40:32.170
be irresponsible not to mention Mark Hamill's portrayal of the

1754
01:40:32.229 --> 01:40:34.770
Joker in Batman the Animated Series, which I think was

1755
01:40:34.829 --> 01:40:40.090
like probably the like, like behind Luke Skywalker, when people

1756
01:40:40.149 --> 01:40:44.569
talk about amazing voiceover performances, like this is always one

1757
01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:45.140
of the ones.

1758
01:40:45.020 --> 01:40:48.359
That's in the top 10. He also voiced, uh, what

1759
01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:53.140
was the character in, um, uh, the, uh, can't think

1760
01:40:53.180 --> 01:40:57.220
of it. The boy in the Heron, the, um, shoot.

1761
01:40:57.279 --> 01:41:00.319
I can't think the studio Ghibli movie boy in the Heron. Uh,

1762
01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:03.800
he does great voiceover work and he was the, um,

1763
01:41:06.300 --> 01:41:12.670
this really creepy psychopath in Criminal Minds. I forget what

1764
01:41:12.750 --> 01:41:17.630
the character's name was, but he was so deliciously evil.

1765
01:41:18.149 --> 01:41:21.010
I had a chance to meet him when my youngest

1766
01:41:21.050 --> 01:41:24.779
son Hunter was born because he was in somewhere in Oregon,

1767
01:41:25.579 --> 01:41:28.560
outside of Portland or something. And that's when we lived

1768
01:41:28.619 --> 01:41:33.619
out there. And then husband decided that his lame-o family's

1769
01:41:34.399 --> 01:41:37.399
Labor Day picnic was more important, so I missed my

1770
01:41:37.479 --> 01:41:44.140
chance to meet. I know, right? Because I watched Star Wars.

1771
01:41:44.180 --> 01:41:47.479
I went to the movie theater multiple times to see

1772
01:41:47.939 --> 01:41:51.500
Star Wars in 1977.

1773
01:41:51.500 --> 01:41:55.850
And he also appeared in the 1990 television series The

1774
01:41:55.899 --> 01:42:00.609
Flash as the trickster in two episodes. So if you're

1775
01:42:00.630 --> 01:42:02.689
a Flash fan, you can see him there as well.

1776
01:42:03.659 --> 01:42:05.649
He was also on Big Bang Theory as himself.

1777
01:42:06.949 --> 01:42:10.789
Oh, yeah. That's right. He married, didn't he marry Sheldon?

1778
01:42:11.310 --> 01:42:11.829
Yes, he did.

1779
01:42:12.750 --> 01:42:13.649
I think he did, yeah.

1780
01:42:14.569 --> 01:42:17.609
And Amy Fairfeller.

1781
01:42:19.289 --> 01:42:22.829
Not just fun, but educational. The things you learn on Trek, Falcon,

1782
01:42:22.890 --> 01:42:23.329
and Beyond.

1783
01:42:23.569 --> 01:42:24.029
I know.

1784
01:42:24.510 --> 01:42:26.069
Things you can't learn in school.

1785
01:42:27.090 --> 01:42:28.569
Yeah, that's probably a good thing.

1786
01:42:29.569 --> 01:42:29.890
Yes.

1787
01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:36.100
So my last happy birthday goes to Natalia Nogulich. She's

1788
01:42:36.590 --> 01:42:42.149
played the recurring character of Alina Nechayev. Is that right, Nechayev?

1789
01:42:42.170 --> 01:42:42.949
Nechayev, yeah.

1790
01:42:43.149 --> 01:42:49.390
Nechayev, yes. Which apparently was not a very well-liked character. Well,

1791
01:42:50.170 --> 01:42:54.590
so here's the thing. When you start talking about strong

1792
01:42:54.850 --> 01:42:59.159
women of the late 90s and early 2000s, nobody likes them.

1793
01:42:59.579 --> 01:43:00.819
Yeah, that's true.

1794
01:43:01.220 --> 01:43:01.960
That's true.

1795
01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:04.439
You know, some people will say Nechayev was a bitch,

1796
01:43:04.579 --> 01:43:07.659
and some people will say she was a total badass.

1797
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:11.609
I personally think she was a total badass, you know?

1798
01:43:13.109 --> 01:43:15.430
She went up against Picard, and people don't like the

1799
01:43:15.489 --> 01:43:18.590
fact that she challenged Picard, essentially. And she was a

1800
01:43:18.609 --> 01:43:20.550
little bit of a bully, let's be honest.

1801
01:43:20.729 --> 01:43:23.130
Yeah, but she did the right thing in Measure of.

1802
01:43:23.050 --> 01:43:23.569
A Man, though.

1803
01:43:23.630 --> 01:43:25.670
She totally did. She's a good admiral.

1804
01:43:25.829 --> 01:43:31.449
She was in TMG and DS9. And then she also

1805
01:43:31.489 --> 01:43:35.590
played the simulated version of Cheyev in Deep Space Nine

1806
01:43:35.729 --> 01:43:41.170
episode The Search Part 2. V, I totally forgot.

1807
01:43:41.210 --> 01:43:45.390
She was uncharmed. I'm literally chomping at the bit right now.

1808
01:43:45.409 --> 01:43:47.850
I'm seeing this image right here, and I'm just like,

1809
01:43:47.869 --> 01:43:49.949
I have to go find that episode right now because

1810
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:51.569
I love that show.

1811
01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:52.109
All right.

1812
01:43:52.149 --> 01:43:55.319
Yeah, I've been watching bits and pieces of it, trying

1813
01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:56.659
to keep track of it.

1814
01:43:56.899 --> 01:44:01.720
So good. Yeah. Something that's not listed there. She may

1815
01:44:01.779 --> 01:44:07.949
be on this awesome podcast as well. What? Yes. I

1816
01:44:07.989 --> 01:44:10.729
reached out to her and she said that she would

1817
01:44:10.810 --> 01:44:13.409
love to come on the show with us. Oh, wow.

1818
01:44:13.630 --> 01:44:16.510
And she told me that she's busy right now, you know,

1819
01:44:16.569 --> 01:44:20.470
doing some things, but she would swing around when she

1820
01:44:20.489 --> 01:44:22.949
gets free. Nice. So we are going to have an

1821
01:44:23.010 --> 01:44:25.489
opportunity to talk to her on the podcast.

1822
01:44:25.510 --> 01:44:26.270
So that'll be awesome.

1823
01:44:26.310 --> 01:44:26.649
Right.

1824
01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:28.840
Yes. As soon as I have any information, I will

1825
01:44:28.859 --> 01:44:31.140
let you guys know, but she's definitely interested in coming

1826
01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:33.420
on the show with us. So nice. So I'm the

1827
01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:33.899
bear in mind.

1828
01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:35.720
All right.

1829
01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:41.100
So now I have your fireproof gloves on Charles, because

1830
01:44:41.279 --> 01:44:46.479
I'm hurling the flaming birthday candle over to you.

1831
01:44:51.060 --> 01:44:54.739
Okay, thank you, V. I kept my engineering gloves with

1832
01:44:54.840 --> 01:44:59.689
me in case I got to go into that chamber. Okay,

1833
01:44:59.729 --> 01:45:06.130
let's say happy birthday to Dennis Lawson. Portrayed Rebellion pilot

1834
01:45:06.390 --> 01:45:10.899
Wedge Antilles in all three films in the original trilogy.

1835
01:45:11.699 --> 01:45:14.500
Returning to the role of Star Wars Episode IX, The

1836
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:18.029
Rise of Skywalker. the only pilot other than Luke to

1837
01:45:18.109 --> 01:45:23.180
fight in the Battle of Yavin, Hoth, and Endor. Coincidentally,

1838
01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:27.060
he is a maternal uncle to Edwin MacGyver, who played

1839
01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:34.649
Obi-Wan Kenobi through the prequel series. Great to see Dennis recognized.

1840
01:45:34.770 --> 01:45:37.449
One of my favorite pilots in there is Wedge Antilles.

1841
01:45:38.569 --> 01:45:44.069
Happy birthday, Scott Devaney, actress who played Bob Briggins in

1842
01:45:44.109 --> 01:45:49.000
Star Trek. for The Voyage Home, the guy we don't like,

1843
01:45:50.159 --> 01:45:53.189
because he just sat there and sent the whales away

1844
01:45:53.289 --> 01:46:01.850
without even telling anybody. Happy birthday to Carolyn Cava, actress

1845
01:46:01.869 --> 01:46:05.119
who played Toby Russell in Star Trek Next Generation 50s

1846
01:46:05.180 --> 01:46:10.399
in episode Ethics. And the last one on my list,

1847
01:46:10.479 --> 01:46:16.369
happy birthday, Elizabeth Dennehy, Actress who played Elizabeth Shelby in

1848
01:46:16.390 --> 01:46:20.100
Star Trek Next Generation 3rd and 4th season episodes Best

1849
01:46:20.180 --> 01:46:26.819
of Both Worlds. And in Star Trek Picard Season 3

1850
01:46:26.819 --> 01:46:30.380
episode Vox. It was great at that time to see

1851
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:31.539
Shelby come back.

1852
01:46:32.939 --> 01:46:36.569
Yeah, I love having that. Sorry, I was just going

1853
01:46:36.600 --> 01:46:39.659
to say, I love Charles having this discussion every year

1854
01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:43.319
because Elizabeth Dennehy's birthday is always, of course, around the

1855
01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:48.800
same time as Natalia Nagulich's. And so we always talk about,

1856
01:46:48.819 --> 01:46:52.119
you know, Shelby and Nechayev kind of being put in

1857
01:46:52.159 --> 01:46:55.619
the same position in Star Trek, where they're both kind

1858
01:46:55.659 --> 01:46:58.239
of like total badasses and everybody hates them for some reason.

1859
01:46:59.659 --> 01:47:02.319
And also, it doesn't mention that she was also on

1860
01:47:02.340 --> 01:47:08.340
this very podcast. Yep. She was here. You guys can

1861
01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:11.140
go to trucktalking.com and you can listen to our interview

1862
01:47:11.180 --> 01:47:12.920
with her. She was a lot of fun to talk to.

1863
01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:13.840
Very fascinating.

1864
01:47:15.090 --> 01:47:18.470
She also, not by voice, but appeared in Lower Decks

1865
01:47:20.149 --> 01:47:27.350
as a captain with her XO. So, I believe Jim

1866
01:47:27.470 --> 01:47:30.649
loves talking movies. And I bet Jim will have a

1867
01:47:30.689 --> 01:47:31.550
movie of the week.

1868
01:47:34.229 --> 01:47:36.829
Absolutely. Thank you, Charles. So I don't get the flaming.

1869
01:47:36.850 --> 01:47:39.300
Do I get the flaming candle? Sure. Why not?

1870
01:47:39.310 --> 01:47:43.050
You can have the flaming candle, but you have no birthdays.

1871
01:47:44.210 --> 01:47:45.350
You're going to have to talk.

1872
01:47:45.310 --> 01:47:48.390
To the guy who makes the notes. I don't know.

1873
01:47:48.409 --> 01:47:53.119
Okay, so I've got the flaming candle. So this is

1874
01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:56.300
Trek Talking's movie of the week with Uncle Jim. I

1875
01:47:56.319 --> 01:47:59.039
just wanted to shake things up a little bit. And

1876
01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:02.590
because we do talk about things beyond Star Trek, so

1877
01:48:03.100 --> 01:48:06.130
here we go. So celebrating an anniversary this week, we

1878
01:48:06.149 --> 01:48:12.130
have Paranormal Activity. It was released on September 25th in 2007.

1879
01:48:12.130 --> 01:48:15.010
After a young middle-class couple moves into what seems like

1880
01:48:15.069 --> 01:48:18.989
a typical suburban house, they become increasingly disturbed by a

1881
01:48:19.109 --> 01:48:22.800
presence that may... or may not be demonic but is

1882
01:48:22.899 --> 01:48:26.050
certainly the most active in the middle of the night

1883
01:48:26.090 --> 01:48:28.970
this was a what do they call it found footage

1884
01:48:29.029 --> 01:48:31.630
movie I remember when I saw this movie I thought

1885
01:48:31.649 --> 01:48:34.090
it was real because MTV had such a build up

1886
01:48:34.789 --> 01:48:36.909
to it and there was a website and everything else

1887
01:48:36.930 --> 01:48:40.100
and it was all fake But it was still fun,

1888
01:48:40.619 --> 01:48:44.819
still a fun movie to watch. Next on my list

1889
01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:48.880
celebrating a birthday this week is The Rocky Horror Picture Show,

1890
01:48:49.380 --> 01:48:55.859
released on September 26, 1975. Jim Sharman's legendary musical comedy

1891
01:48:55.920 --> 01:49:00.560
horror cult classic starring Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon, and Barry Boswick.

1892
01:49:00.939 --> 01:49:03.380
After getting a flat tire in the middle of nowhere,

1893
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:07.100
newly engaged couple Brad and Janet encounter the eerie mansion

1894
01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:11.550
of both flamboyant, seductive Dr. Frank and Footer, and a

1895
01:49:11.590 --> 01:49:15.130
variety of eccentric characters through elaborate dance and rock music,

1896
01:49:15.510 --> 01:49:21.399
the mad scientist unveils his latest creation, a perfect muscular man.

1897
01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:24.079
So it's time to do the time warp again.

1898
01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:26.359
In amazing gold underwear.

1899
01:49:27.399 --> 01:49:31.430
Just a step too long. So Rocky Horror Picture Show

1900
01:49:31.470 --> 01:49:33.029
celebrating a birthday.

1901
01:49:33.420 --> 01:49:36.869
So I have to say, I met Barry Bostwick at

1902
01:49:36.930 --> 01:49:41.829
GalaxyCon Richmond last year, the year before, whenever, I don't know.

1903
01:49:43.130 --> 01:49:47.760
And I had never seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show before.

1904
01:49:47.770 --> 01:49:50.640
And I told him, and he said, you must be

1905
01:49:50.699 --> 01:49:55.140
the only person on the planet who hasn't seen it.

1906
01:49:56.140 --> 01:50:00.319
Because I didn't understand why he had. He was selling

1907
01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:04.109
autographed Tidy Whities. And he said, well, if you see

1908
01:50:04.130 --> 01:50:08.630
the movie, you'll understand why I saw the movie. I understand.

1909
01:50:08.649 --> 01:50:11.970
And I will have to say he is a silver fox.

1910
01:50:12.029 --> 01:50:15.310
He still looks good. And I actually, I told him so.

1911
01:50:16.149 --> 01:50:18.569
But anyway, and of course, we just recently lost Tim Curry.

1912
01:50:18.590 --> 01:50:19.529
I haven't seen it either.

1913
01:50:20.890 --> 01:50:23.550
I have to admit to you that I haven't seen

1914
01:50:23.569 --> 01:50:25.270
the movie either.

1915
01:50:25.350 --> 01:50:29.180
You can, I think on Pluto TV, I think it's

1916
01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:30.739
on demand for free.

1917
01:50:30.760 --> 01:50:30.819
So.

1918
01:50:32.710 --> 01:50:35.909
Although Pluto TV just changed its format and it sucks

1919
01:50:36.949 --> 01:50:37.970
how you go about it.

1920
01:50:37.979 --> 01:50:40.380
Don't hold anything back, V. What do you really think?

1921
01:50:40.619 --> 01:50:46.479
Yeah. Well, let's just say Pluto TV is owned by

1922
01:50:46.539 --> 01:50:51.939
Paramount Plus and, you know, how we feel about them.

1923
01:50:51.979 --> 01:50:53.890
But they changed the format. It's terrible.

1924
01:50:54.060 --> 01:50:56.529
Yeah. Yep. So anyway.

1925
01:50:56.609 --> 01:50:59.729
I have not seen it either yet. I've seen snippets,

1926
01:50:59.989 --> 01:51:01.250
but not enough yet.

1927
01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:06.060
Yeah. So we're going to have to get together, get

1928
01:51:06.159 --> 01:51:08.380
a healthy pizza and watch it.

1929
01:51:09.060 --> 01:51:12.130
Oh my gosh. I, yeah, that would be amazing. And

1930
01:51:12.170 --> 01:51:14.550
we could do a live watching and we could, I

1931
01:51:14.569 --> 01:51:16.210
can help you guys figure out all the props ahead

1932
01:51:16.250 --> 01:51:16.770
of time.

1933
01:51:16.829 --> 01:51:19.409
But yeah, no, we have to like toast and you

1934
01:51:19.449 --> 01:51:21.489
have to throw it at the, at the screen.

1935
01:51:22.729 --> 01:51:25.109
There are a whole bunch of things you have to do.

1936
01:51:26.250 --> 01:51:28.689
So I'm saying I'm hearing that there are a lot

1937
01:51:28.729 --> 01:51:32.060
of Rocky virgins here, which if you're a Rocky fan,

1938
01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:34.460
you know that that's what you guys are called. So

1939
01:51:34.779 --> 01:51:35.560
we need to do it.

1940
01:51:37.180 --> 01:51:40.779
I actually have some Rocky horror ones. And that's with

1941
01:51:41.079 --> 01:51:45.729
an ex-girlfriend at the time. Who was a heavy one

1942
01:51:45.750 --> 01:51:49.390
and sang through the whole episode of all the extras.

1943
01:51:49.470 --> 01:51:53.109
So I got the whole details of what the midnight

1944
01:51:53.189 --> 01:51:56.750
run of Rocky Horror should look like or sound like.

1945
01:51:59.250 --> 01:52:02.850
Well, we'll have to do something with that. Next on

1946
01:52:02.869 --> 01:52:05.590
my list is Time After Time. It was released on

1947
01:52:05.630 --> 01:52:11.430
September 28, 1979. Written and directed by Nicholas Meyer. starring

1948
01:52:11.489 --> 01:52:16.189
Malcolm McDowell and David Warner and Mary Steinberger. It was

1949
01:52:16.529 --> 01:52:19.869
the directing debut of Meyer, whose screenplay is based on

1950
01:52:19.890 --> 01:52:24.439
the premise from Carl Alexander's novel Time After Time. The

1951
01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:27.680
film presents a story in which British author H.G. Wells

1952
01:52:28.189 --> 01:52:31.680
uses his time machine to pursue Jack the Ripper into

1953
01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:38.409
the 20th century. Next on my list, I Come in Peace.

1954
01:52:38.430 --> 01:52:42.649
It was released on September 28, 1990. An alien lands

1955
01:52:42.750 --> 01:52:45.770
on Earth and steals a whole bunch of heroin, then

1956
01:52:45.810 --> 01:52:50.319
goes around overdosing people and harvesting their endorphins to take

1957
01:52:50.380 --> 01:52:53.760
back his world and sell as the ultimate drug. He

1958
01:52:53.819 --> 01:52:56.239
is pursued by an alien cop and an Earth cop,

1959
01:52:56.380 --> 01:53:02.510
Jack Kane, played by Dolph Lundgren, and his ever-so-slightly-dodgy FBI partner.

1960
01:53:03.229 --> 01:53:05.710
I think he's saying I come in peace is actually

1961
01:53:05.930 --> 01:53:09.689
better than the movie, but that's just my opinion. Shoot

1962
01:53:09.729 --> 01:53:10.560
to kill.

1963
01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:13.260
It doesn't really take much to be better than the movie.

1964
01:53:14.140 --> 01:53:17.880
Yeah, this is true. But the next one, the next one,

1965
01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:23.279
Serenity was released on September 30th, 2005. It's an American

1966
01:53:23.340 --> 01:53:26.800
space Western film written and directed by Josh Whedon and

1967
01:53:26.840 --> 01:53:30.020
his future directorial debut. The film is a continuation of

1968
01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:35.189
Whedon's short lived 2002 Fox television series, Firefly, taking place

1969
01:53:35.350 --> 01:53:38.029
after the events of the final episode with all the

1970
01:53:38.069 --> 01:53:42.369
main cast reprising their roles like a leaf in the wind.

1971
01:53:44.109 --> 01:53:47.579
And last movie on my list that was released this

1972
01:53:47.739 --> 01:53:51.939
week was Halloween, The Curse of Michael Myers. It was

1973
01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:56.819
released on September 29, 1995. It starred Donald Pleasant, Paul Rudd,

1974
01:53:57.420 --> 01:54:02.159
and Marin. I don't know who that is. The sequel

1975
01:54:02.180 --> 01:54:04.460
to Halloween 5, The Revenge of Michael Myers, and the

1976
01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:07.819
sixth installment in the Halloween film series, the plot depicts

1977
01:54:07.880 --> 01:54:11.060
Michael Myers hunting down the infant son of his niece,

1978
01:54:11.430 --> 01:54:15.689
Jamie Lloyd. And what movie did Uncle Jim pick as

1979
01:54:15.750 --> 01:54:19.829
the movie of the week? David, roll the tape.

1980
01:54:23.029 --> 01:54:26.130
I am talking about traveling through time in a machine

1981
01:54:26.350 --> 01:54:28.210
constructed for that very purpose.

1982
01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:36.300
Good God, I don't believe it. He actually built.

1983
01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:42.880
The blind man.

1984
01:54:43.399 --> 01:54:44.800
My name is H.G.

1985
01:54:44.859 --> 01:54:45.199
Wells.

1986
01:54:45.699 --> 01:54:48.229
I came here in a time machine of my own construction.

1987
01:54:49.479 --> 01:54:52.430
I'm pursuing Jack the Ripper, who escapes into the future

1988
01:54:52.489 --> 01:54:53.329
in my machine.

1989
01:54:55.449 --> 01:54:55.869
What?

1990
01:55:05.500 --> 01:55:07.460
How did you manage to find me down once you

1991
01:55:07.500 --> 01:55:08.020
got here?

1992
01:55:08.699 --> 01:55:10.760
You must add detective to your list of accomplishments.

1993
01:55:11.039 --> 01:55:12.380
You're a regular Sherlock.

1994
01:55:13.319 --> 01:55:15.020
Why can't you just go to the police?

1995
01:55:15.079 --> 01:55:16.979
They've never believed me.

1996
01:55:17.100 --> 01:55:18.920
They've never believed me.

1997
01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:24.119
They've never believed me. They've never believed.

1998
01:55:24.649 --> 01:55:25.649
Me.

1999
01:55:25.699 --> 01:55:26.649
Scientists.

2000
01:55:27.550 --> 01:55:28.590
Whatever makes you say that?

2001
01:55:33.270 --> 01:55:36.210
I'm obliged to take you back to face the consequences

2002
01:55:36.289 --> 01:55:39.289
of your crimes. I belong here completely, after all. It's

2003
01:55:39.329 --> 01:55:40.710
you who do not belong.

2004
01:55:44.449 --> 01:55:44.949
Here.

2005
01:55:51.409 --> 01:55:54.470
Ninety years ago, I was free. Today, I'm an amateur.

2006
01:55:55.189 --> 01:55:56.369
The future isn't what you thought.

2007
01:55:56.390 --> 01:56:03.649
It's what I am. And why did I pick that movie?

2008
01:56:04.050 --> 01:56:07.010
Directed by Nicholas Meyer, Star Trek II, Star Trek VI,

2009
01:56:07.029 --> 01:56:11.289
Star Trek IV. Of course, starring who? Malcolm McDowell. And

2010
01:56:11.310 --> 01:56:14.430
of course, David Warner from the best Star Trek movie ever,

2011
01:56:14.489 --> 01:56:17.069
Star Trek V. He also had a minor part in

2012
01:56:17.090 --> 01:56:18.310
Star Trek VI.

2013
01:56:18.850 --> 01:56:20.970
A minor part.

2014
01:56:21.029 --> 01:56:23.729
A minor part. And let's not forget that he played

2015
01:56:23.850 --> 01:56:27.949
Sark in Tron. So if you haven't seen Time After Time,

2016
01:56:28.220 --> 01:56:31.029
that's the movie I recommend. for you to check out.

2017
01:56:31.140 --> 01:56:34.100
Jim, I just wanted to say before you go too

2018
01:56:34.119 --> 01:56:36.319
much further that that was not the movie that I

2019
01:56:36.340 --> 01:56:39.100
thought you were going to choose and I was pleasantly

2020
01:56:39.159 --> 01:56:41.539
surprised to see that that was the one that you chose.

2021
01:56:41.579 --> 01:56:43.619
That was a movie that I was not familiar with

2022
01:56:43.979 --> 01:56:46.899
probably two years ago and Paul told me about it

2023
01:56:47.260 --> 01:56:49.520
and I watched it. I don't know what that trailer was.

2024
01:56:49.560 --> 01:56:52.659
That was some kind of like modern trailer version of

2025
01:56:52.960 --> 01:56:56.149
that movie. It was very like, wow, it's such a

2026
01:56:56.170 --> 01:56:57.810
good movie. You should definitely check it out if you've

2027
01:56:57.829 --> 01:56:58.260
never seen it.

2028
01:56:58.310 --> 01:57:01.260
Very good movie. And what movie did you think I

2029
01:57:01.279 --> 01:57:01.800
was going to pick?

2030
01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:04.680
Well, you know, I mean, I know you love Dolph Lundgren,

2031
01:57:04.699 --> 01:57:07.119
so I was thinking about I Come in Peace. But

2032
01:57:07.159 --> 01:57:09.319
then I was like, well, he's probably not going to

2033
01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:12.239
go that direction. He's probably going to go with something

2034
01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:16.619
like Tim Curry related just because he just lost him.

2035
01:57:16.720 --> 01:57:18.680
So I thought you might go for Rocky just because

2036
01:57:18.699 --> 01:57:19.359
we just lost him.

2037
01:57:19.930 --> 01:57:22.670
I was thinking about it, but with all the Star

2038
01:57:22.710 --> 01:57:24.489
Trek connections, I had to go with that one. Yeah.

2039
01:57:24.869 --> 01:57:25.850
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

2040
01:57:26.069 --> 01:57:30.250
My first introduction to Malcolm McDowell was Clockwork Orange.

2041
01:57:32.010 --> 01:57:32.649
That's right.

2042
01:57:33.630 --> 01:57:35.439
Yeah, another good one.

2043
01:57:35.989 --> 01:57:36.909
Yeah. Good movie.

2044
01:57:37.270 --> 01:57:40.239
And my first introduction to Tim Curry was It when

2045
01:57:40.279 --> 01:57:43.340
I was 16. I hid behind the couch the entire time.

2046
01:57:43.359 --> 01:57:46.880
Yeah, he was so delightfully evil.

2047
01:57:47.199 --> 01:57:49.920
I have been traumatized by both actors, and yet, you know,

2048
01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:50.680
they're awesome.

2049
01:57:51.439 --> 01:57:55.750
Yeah. Yeah, he played a great Pennywise. And now it's

2050
01:57:55.789 --> 01:58:20.029
time for our Star Trek news. Okay, we don't have

2051
01:58:20.069 --> 01:58:21.899
a Shatner says what, but we do have a story

2052
01:58:21.909 --> 01:58:22.380
for Eric.

2053
01:58:22.569 --> 01:58:23.109
Yes.

2054
01:58:23.479 --> 01:58:25.060
Thank you, Jim, for giving me this story.

2055
01:58:25.079 --> 01:58:26.039
I'm very excited about this.

2056
01:58:26.060 --> 01:58:29.779
Star Trek Enterprise actually debuted 25 years ago, if you

2057
01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:34.079
can believe it. It was September 26, 2001. Star Trek

2058
01:58:34.100 --> 01:58:36.859
was at a crossroads at this time. Star Trek Deep

2059
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:39.779
Space Nine had just ended, and Star Trek Voyager was

2060
01:58:39.899 --> 01:58:42.149
scheduled to end, so Paramount was looking for a way

2061
01:58:42.479 --> 01:58:46.300
for the next series to carry the franchise on. The

2062
01:58:46.359 --> 01:58:49.979
premiere was double-length, and it was an episode, of course,

2063
01:58:50.060 --> 01:58:53.600
called Broken Bow, which showed the action starting with the

2064
01:58:53.659 --> 01:58:57.260
launch of a prototype starship called the Enterprise NX-01 and

2065
01:58:57.479 --> 01:59:01.840
their first mission. This presents the storyline that introduces the

2066
01:59:01.899 --> 01:59:06.109
new cast. The first two seasons consisted of mostly standalone

2067
01:59:06.189 --> 01:59:12.340
episodes that explored humanity's early relations with Vulcans, Klingons, and Andorians. However,

2068
01:59:12.520 --> 01:59:16.899
after premiering with an audience of 12.54 million viewers, the

2069
01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:23.100
first two seasons consisted of mostly... Oh, this is repeating itself.

2070
01:59:24.939 --> 01:59:26.880
We really got to proofread these articles before we put

2071
01:59:26.899 --> 01:59:31.850
them up here. Okay, let me see. By the season finale,

2072
01:59:31.899 --> 01:59:35.310
the viewership numbers had dropped all the way to 3.88 million.

2073
01:59:35.329 --> 01:59:38.390
So the point of those two sentences was started really strong,

2074
01:59:38.409 --> 01:59:42.609
dropped really fast. UPM wanted more action. Instead of the drama,

2075
01:59:42.689 --> 01:59:45.949
the third season added a single serialized storyline of the

2076
01:59:46.020 --> 01:59:48.560
crew trying to keep Earth from being destroyed by a

2077
01:59:48.640 --> 01:59:53.859
newly introduced alien species known as the Zindi. UPN ended

2078
01:59:53.920 --> 01:59:57.939
up canceling Star Trek Enterprise after its fourth season, the

2079
01:59:57.979 --> 02:00:00.989
first time a network canceled a Star Trek series since

2080
02:00:01.029 --> 02:00:04.109
the original. This ended the long run of Star Trek

2081
02:00:04.130 --> 02:00:07.130
television shows. It didn't end Star Trek completely, as J.J.

2082
02:00:07.250 --> 02:00:10.229
Abrams' alternate universe Star Trek movies played out during the

2083
02:00:10.289 --> 02:00:14.520
TV hiatus. This hiatus finally ended in 2017 with the

2084
02:00:14.560 --> 02:00:18.399
launch of Star Trek Discovery, the franchise's entry into the

2085
02:00:18.470 --> 02:00:22.569
streaming era. And there are many, many people who will

2086
02:00:22.609 --> 02:00:25.170
tell you that Star Trek Enterprise is not worth watching.

2087
02:00:25.569 --> 02:00:29.010
I will say it is four seasons, man, and there

2088
02:00:29.069 --> 02:00:31.489
is a lot of good stuff in there. And I

2089
02:00:31.569 --> 02:00:33.409
think that it is totally worth spending a little bit

2090
02:00:33.439 --> 02:00:35.539
of time with it. Will you be frustrated in seasons

2091
02:00:35.619 --> 02:00:36.199
three and four?

2092
02:00:36.859 --> 02:00:37.260
Perhaps.

2093
02:00:37.829 --> 02:00:40.670
But Seasons 1 and 2 are very, very good, and

2094
02:00:40.729 --> 02:00:43.750
they are worth a watch if you have always hated

2095
02:00:43.789 --> 02:00:45.710
the theme song and therefore hated the show.

2096
02:00:47.430 --> 02:00:50.029
It has been a long road getting from there.

2097
02:00:50.050 --> 02:00:52.670
But now you can skip intro, V. It's like all good.

2098
02:00:52.789 --> 02:00:53.930
Yes, I know.

2099
02:00:53.949 --> 02:00:54.810
I know.

2100
02:00:54.909 --> 02:00:57.300
Yeah, because she ate up the heart.

2101
02:00:57.310 --> 02:01:01.359
I think Broken Bowl was one of the best pilot

2102
02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:04.960
episodes of Star Trek that we've seen. It's really solid.

2103
02:01:04.979 --> 02:01:06.439
It's really well written.

2104
02:01:07.460 --> 02:01:10.520
It's really good, and I said it last week, I'll

2105
02:01:10.539 --> 02:01:12.659
just repeat it one more time here, that also Star

2106
02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:17.000
Trek Enterprise, for me, contains probably the most underrated character

2107
02:01:17.020 --> 02:01:20.300
in maybe all of Star Trek, or at least one

2108
02:01:20.319 --> 02:01:23.609
of the top five underrated characters in all of Star Trek.

2109
02:01:23.930 --> 02:01:28.170
Travis Mayweather, I think, deserved a lot more attention. He's

2110
02:01:28.210 --> 02:01:31.869
a super cool character with a really cool backstory, and

2111
02:01:31.890 --> 02:01:33.930
I kind of wish that we had gotten more of him.

2112
02:01:33.970 --> 02:01:37.399
If they were to ever do kind of a like Enterprise,

2113
02:01:37.579 --> 02:01:40.460
you know, 2.0. I would love to see where Travis

2114
02:01:40.500 --> 02:01:41.119
Mayweather ended.

2115
02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:45.560
Well, yeah, actually, they are thinking about bringing Scott Bakula back.

2116
02:01:45.939 --> 02:01:47.260
I don't know about the rest of the crew, but

2117
02:01:47.279 --> 02:01:51.720
they're thinking about bringing him back as the first Federation president.

2118
02:01:52.119 --> 02:01:53.399
I don't know if you guys have been following that

2119
02:01:53.439 --> 02:01:53.979
piece of news.

2120
02:01:54.020 --> 02:01:56.010
Yeah, I remember that a while ago.

2121
02:01:56.390 --> 02:01:58.850
Yeah, something called Reunited or something like that.

2122
02:02:00.090 --> 02:02:00.750
Yeah, I don't know.

2123
02:02:02.300 --> 02:02:04.800
We shall see if that goes anywhere. I think that

2124
02:02:04.819 --> 02:02:06.840
that's kind of been a rumor for the last two

2125
02:02:06.859 --> 02:02:09.380
or three years. We'll see if it ever happens.

2126
02:02:11.380 --> 02:02:15.939
Charles gets to wrap up the show with our final story.

2127
02:02:17.619 --> 02:02:22.460
Okay. I've been researching this a bit myself anyway. Star

2128
02:02:22.500 --> 02:02:26.789
Trek and magic. The Gathering puts Enterprise inside a giant D20.

2129
02:02:28.720 --> 02:02:33.229
November 20, 2060 is the first crossover between Star Trek

2130
02:02:33.699 --> 02:02:38.149
and Magic the Gathering, which comes with official licensed merchandise

2131
02:02:38.649 --> 02:02:41.850
that gives tabletop fans a chance to own dice based

2132
02:02:42.590 --> 02:02:47.369
on the faction of the series, including a huge one, Enterprise,

2133
02:02:47.430 --> 02:02:51.970
sealed in plastic. Magic the Gathering Star Trek launches November 13th.

2134
02:02:53.229 --> 02:02:58.369
And while it contains the usual booster packs, it also

2135
02:02:58.409 --> 02:03:02.680
extends the commander decks, allowing players to instantly pit the

2136
02:03:02.720 --> 02:03:07.779
Federation against the Borg and the Klingons. Sirius Dice has

2137
02:03:07.859 --> 02:03:11.460
announced officially licensed Star Trek dice for Magic the Gathering,

2138
02:03:11.920 --> 02:03:17.789
the most impressive of which are spin-down D20s that have

2139
02:03:17.829 --> 02:03:20.689
the model of the USS Enterprise or the Klingon Bird

2140
02:03:20.729 --> 02:03:25.000
of Prey inside. It bears mention that Star Trek fans

2141
02:03:25.039 --> 02:03:28.159
will need to be packing some Ferengi profits to buy

2142
02:03:28.199 --> 02:03:32.699
these dice. They cost $ 55 each. Sirius has also announced

2143
02:03:32.800 --> 02:03:37.739
Magic the Gathering Star Trek Treasure Packs, which cost $ 8

2144
02:03:37.539 --> 02:03:43.159
and contain one of 25 different D20s designed of different rarities.

2145
02:03:43.979 --> 02:03:47.829
They also come with either an acrylic token sheet containing

2146
02:03:47.909 --> 02:03:51.399
counters from Magic the Gathering or a card-sized token for

2147
02:03:51.520 --> 02:03:58.090
one of the creatures in the set, including the Borg, Romulan, Klingon, Warrior, Officer, Illusion,

2148
02:03:58.210 --> 02:04:03.210
or New Planet. There are also blind packs that cost $ 20,

2149
02:04:02.729 --> 02:04:06.850
containing randomized mini dice, as well as two Magic the

2150
02:04:06.869 --> 02:04:11.149
Gathering dice. These have designs based on different Star Trek factions,

2151
02:04:11.229 --> 02:04:15.409
including the Federation, Borg, Ferengi, and the rarest being of all,

2152
02:04:15.470 --> 02:04:22.220
inspired by Q. Should be interesting when this stuff.

2153
02:04:22.000 --> 02:04:31.189
Hits the store. And guess what? Wraps up another incredibly awesome,

2154
02:04:31.270 --> 02:04:36.970
totally exciting episode of Shrek Talking and Beyond. Hard to believe.

2155
02:04:37.729 --> 02:04:41.420
So I just I want to take this opportunity to

2156
02:04:41.460 --> 02:04:44.989
say thank you so, so much to Whitney for Yes.

2157
02:04:45.010 --> 02:04:47.649
For joining us on tonight's show as a guest truck sport.

2158
02:04:47.710 --> 02:04:50.630
It was awesome to have you along for the ride, Whitney,

2159
02:04:50.649 --> 02:04:53.420
and I hope to have you back again. You enjoyed

2160
02:04:53.460 --> 02:04:56.600
yourself and that you feel like you're part of our family.

2161
02:04:56.619 --> 02:04:57.920
Thank you so much.

2162
02:04:58.619 --> 02:05:03.000
Absolutely. Thank you again. And it's nice to have somebody

2163
02:05:03.100 --> 02:05:05.220
to be able to do a girl nod.

2164
02:05:05.020 --> 02:05:05.420
With, so....

2165
02:05:07.090 --> 02:05:08.989
I'm not really sure what that is, to be honest.

2166
02:05:09.069 --> 02:05:10.670
I don't know either.

2167
02:05:10.829 --> 02:05:15.630
It's a long story, Whitney. Don't ask about it.

2168
02:05:15.810 --> 02:05:18.899
I'm thankful, yes. I'm just so glad that, you know.

2169
02:05:20.520 --> 02:05:23.680
I'll tell you the story at work. When I come back, I'll.

2170
02:05:23.479 --> 02:05:24.500
Tell you the story. Okay.

2171
02:05:24.520 --> 02:05:25.659
Brace yourself.

2172
02:05:25.779 --> 02:05:28.840
I know. And we apologize in advance.

2173
02:05:29.020 --> 02:05:34.000
Yeah. And, of course, thank you so much to V

2174
02:05:34.039 --> 02:05:35.619
for hanging out and talking with us.

2175
02:05:35.699 --> 02:05:37.560
As always.

2176
02:05:37.979 --> 02:05:42.260
You are blue and no static. So thank you so

2177
02:05:42.300 --> 02:05:43.060
much for joining us.

2178
02:05:43.720 --> 02:05:46.859
As always. I'm so glad to be here. See, this

2179
02:05:46.939 --> 02:05:51.810
is what happens, Whitney, when I answer a random call

2180
02:05:51.939 --> 02:05:55.470
for somebody to be on the podcast like a little

2181
02:05:55.510 --> 02:06:00.489
over a year ago here last spring. And here I am.

2182
02:06:00.789 --> 02:06:06.810
So, yeah. That's right. Part of the TrekTalking family. And,

2183
02:06:06.850 --> 02:06:09.439
of course, thank you so much to David for putting

2184
02:06:09.460 --> 02:06:11.699
together these awesome videos, which you can see if you're

2185
02:06:11.720 --> 02:06:13.880
a subscriber, by the way. Thank you, David.

2186
02:06:13.899 --> 02:06:15.619
Yeah, it's been a lot of fun.

2187
02:06:15.760 --> 02:06:19.239
And as Arthur Fortnick would say, I'll be back.

2188
02:06:20.359 --> 02:06:21.180
I'll be back.

2189
02:06:21.979 --> 02:06:25.619
Same bad time, same bad channel. And, of course, thank

2190
02:06:25.649 --> 02:06:28.109
you so much to Charles for hanging out and TrekTalking

2191
02:06:28.149 --> 02:06:29.609
with us tonight. Thank you, Charles.

2192
02:06:30.260 --> 02:06:32.239
Oh, thank you, Jim. It was always fun. This was

2193
02:06:32.279 --> 02:06:34.399
a great episode I wanted to dive into.

2194
02:06:34.430 --> 02:06:40.750
It was fun. It was definitely fun. And last but

2195
02:06:40.770 --> 02:06:42.630
not least, thank you so much to Eric hanging out

2196
02:06:42.649 --> 02:06:44.369
in Shrek talking with us tonight. Thank you, Eric.

2197
02:06:45.329 --> 02:06:48.529
Yeah, 100%. It was super fun. And Whitney, such a

2198
02:06:48.689 --> 02:06:52.449
pleasure to meet you. I'm digging the amount of estrogen

2199
02:06:52.590 --> 02:06:53.170
in the room.

2200
02:06:53.189 --> 02:06:53.810
I love it.

2201
02:06:56.529 --> 02:06:59.210
Yeah, good times, guys. Thank you so much for a

2202
02:06:59.229 --> 02:06:59.770
fun episode.

2203
02:07:01.140 --> 02:07:04.640
And I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, saying please

2204
02:07:04.659 --> 02:07:08.289
stay safe and be good to each other. Hailing frequencies

2205
02:07:08.789 --> 02:07:10.710
are closed. Good night, everybody.

2206
02:07:11.090 --> 02:07:11.869
Good night.

2207
02:07:12.329 --> 02:07:13.350
Live long and prosper.

2208
02:07:13.369 --> 02:07:18.729
Bye, y'all. Wire two, number one.

2209
02:07:19.390 --> 02:07:20.010
You're the captain.

2210
02:07:21.260 --> 02:07:21.569
Captain.

2211
02:07:25.720 --> 02:07:26.880
Ready for warp, sir.

2212
02:07:27.859 --> 02:07:28.140
Warp two.

2213
02:07:35.369 --> 02:07:35.609
Thank you.

2214
02:07:52.979 --> 02:07:53.680
Oh, my God.

2215
02:08:23.170 --> 02:08:23.449
Thank you.