Episode 708 - COMIC CORNER- The Last Starship: A Journey Through Time and Space

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1:39 We'll start off out in Portland. We're going to say hello to David. How are you doing tonight, David? I'm doing pretty good. I've just been really tired lately, but it might be the weather. I don't know. But yeah, doing really well. And can't wait to start talking about this comic book. You know, I'm right there with you, David. It's been a long, short week. I came home from work. It took a while. I'm tired. So I'm right there with you, buddy. Sticking out in Portland, we're going to say hello to Paul. How are you doing tonight, Paul? Doing okay, man. Doing all right. Excited to get into some literary... discussions tonight about the graphic art form. And I'm glad tomorrow's Friday. That's all I know. So, yeah.

2:21 Yes. Yes. Ready for it. Ready for it. Big time. To finish up our Portland contingency, we'd like to welcome Eric to the podcast. How are you doing tonight, Eric? Well, Jim, I'm not going to lie. It was a tough day. But the thing that sort of like propelled me through the day was knowing that I got to talk about this trio of amazing comics tonight. I am so excited. Like, yeah. Anyway, so tough day. But man, I am I'm ready for ready for right now. Let's do it. Excellent. And not. And I said not from Portland. We have VV's on in Virginia. How you doing, V? Hey. Just trying to get over this whatever creeping crud that I've been battling all week. So I hope I keep my voice throughout the entire podcast. We shall see. Some say it might be a good thing that I can't talk, but, you know, glad to be here.

3:15 And my final truck bird tonight is out in Las Vegas. We're going to say hello to Charles. How are you doing tonight, Charles? I'm doing good. Crazy week because with an off day in the middle of the week, which threw everything off at work, but glad to finally be in talk about this series. It's been a good series. To read through. I hear that, my friend. A day off in the middle of the week just whacks everything out of proportion. So I hear you. So before we go too far, I'd like to tell you guys you can help support this podcast in one of two ways. One, You can be a subscriber for 99 cents a month. If that's not something you feel comfortable with, a second way that you can help us is to like and share our post because that helps our logarithm on Facebook. So that's my little advertisement. Tonight we're going to be talking about Comic Corner. It hasn't been around in a while, but it's back, like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

4:17 And we're going to be talking about the last Starship issue 1, 2, and 3, which is a full arc in this series. It's a 12-issue series, and so we're going to cover Chapter 1 of that arc. If you guys are interested, you can pick up the rest of it and see how the arc ends on your own. Also, we're going to find out what sci-fi actor you share a birthday with on our Sci-Fi Birthdays. Of course, we have our fan shout-outs, as always. And Uncle Jim's Movie Pick of the Week. I wonder what it could be. I hope you guys are enjoying Star Trek Magic the Gathering. See this poster right here behind my head there? I went to my local store. And I was walking in, the guy was putting a poster up on the wall and I was telling him how much I liked it because it's very reminiscent of Star Trek emotion pictures. You guys can see it. It's got all the different captains on it. Well, not all of them, but the majority of them. And so he said, oh, you can have it.

5:14 And I said, really? He says, yeah. So I had to put it right up here behind me and I'm going out there to play Star Trek magic. on tomorrow, actually, Friday. And I'm going to see if he has another one. And if I can get another one of these from him, I'm going to give it away to one of you lucky fans out there when we start talking about Star Trek Magic the Gathering, which we are going to do. So just be patient. And during that show, one of you lucky people will win this poster right here. And it looks fantastic up on the wall. All right, guys. So that's my spiel. We're going to dive right in and we're going to start off with our fan shout outs. And Eric is going to start us off.

5:55 Yeah, Jim, this week we're going to spin that globe and send ourselves over to Genova, Italy, where we are saying hello to Amparo Gisela Morosi. Morosi. Morosi. There, I got to get the accent in the right place. Amparo Gisela Morosi from Genova, Italy. Thank you so much for saying hello to us this week. And I love your little emoji with the hearts around the face. That lets us know that you're sharing your love with us and we're sharing a ride back to you. So thanks so much for saying hello. Also saying hello this week to Ali Muhammad in Cairo, Egypt. We do have a fair contingent of supporters there in Egypt, and we really appreciate that. Thank you so much, Ali, for saying hello to us. Spinning the globe over to Northern Europe to a place that I recently was, I'd like to say, hey, Henrik Hesselholt, thanks so much for supporting our podcast from Denmark, sending us three Danish flags, which I'm positive is what actually caught Jim's attention. And Henrique, thank you so much for supporting our podcast. I didn't get far in your country, but I went to Copenhagen and that joint is amazing.

6:59 I recommend it to anybody who travels Northern Europe. And last but not least on my list, I'm going to say hello this week to Anthony Beatles Andrews, who hails from Oxfordshire, England, sending us both the Union Jack and the English flag. Thanks, Anthony, for saying hello and for supporting our podcast just across the pond. V, who would you like to say hello to? Well, I am in the United States here saying hello first to Karen Teams, who listens to us in Atlanta, Georgia. So hello and thank you to Karen. Next on the West Coast, Linda Stanley Owen from Newport Beach, California. And back my way. Donnie Brady in West Virginia, USA. And last but not least, we have Charles Brown, who says hello to us from Columbia, Missouri. So thank you all so much for that. All right, on to you, Charles.

8:08 Thank you, V. Let's start with a warm welcome to Christopher Clark from Fresno, California. And gives us three Vulcan salutes. Welcome, Christopher. Welcome, Alan Gunter, a top fan from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Welcome, Alan. Welcome, Amber Kelly from Louisville, Kentucky. And last on my list, welcome Howard Landis from Tempe, Arizona. Tempe should have some nice weather right now. Not too hot. But Paul, who's on your list? Well, we have all kinds of international folk who have chimed in to say hello to us this week. Up and down the Various aspects of our beloved hemisphere. First of all, from Cologne, Germany, we have Lars Rendelman, who's saying hello. Great to hear from you, Lars. Hope things are doing great in Cologne.

9:05 Your part of the world is certainly gearing up for its annual. Festival of Christmas and Christmas markets, all kinds of exciting things happening there. Just down the road in Finland, in Turku, it's Markku Herd. I hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly there. Markku Herd from Turku. Finland, in Turku, where. That Finnish flag is billowing proudly in the wind, I can see there. So great to hear from you. Thanks for checking in with us. In much sunnier climes, we'll go over to say hello to Alexandra Fonseca, who is saying hello to us from Ribeiro dos Neves, Minas Gerais, in Brazil.

9:46 Excellent, Alexandra. I hope that I'm doing justice to the pronunciation of. Both your name and your hometown there in Ribeira. A little bit more of my speed. John McGovern is saying hello to us from Bolton, England, part of the general Manchester area of men reserves in Bolton there. John, great to hear from you. You have a wonderful spot there in the UK. Which I'm very, very fond of. And we'll spin the old. globe back over to see what Uncle Jim's got for us. More fans, more friends, Uncle Jim. Why, thank you so much, Paul. I'd like to start out by saying thank you and welcome to Jim Blair, who's listening to us right now in Alabama and says, I've been a Trekkie since the sixth grade in 1976.

10:35 Live long and prosper, Jim. We also want to welcome Brian Koppel to the podcast, who's listening to us in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Of course, Brian could be watching us if he's a subscriber for 99 cents. Just throwing that out there. We also want to say hello to Sari Payne, who's in Dayton, Florida. And last but not least, we want to say hello and welcome to Katrina Joy, who's watching, hopefully, right now in Detroit, Michigan. And that, my friends, wraps up our Fan Shoutouts. If you would like to be featured on a future Fan Shoutout, Head over to our Facebook page at TrekTalk and beyond. You'll see the Live Long and Prosper pinned to the top of the page. Tell us where you're from. Leave some emojis. It gets my attention.

11:24 If you see a little heart next to your name from your truly Uncle Jim, then you're going to be featured on a fan shout-out. Not only that, but you can send us your pictures. And here's Paul with a good-looking Klingon here. You can send us your pictures, and David will put them right up there on the screen so everybody knows. that you're not only a fan of Trek talking, but you're a Star Trek fan as well. All right, guys, that finishes up our fan shout-outs. Now we're going to dive into the meat and potatoes of this week's podcast. We're going to be talking about the comic book series, The Last Starship, the first three issues, which happen to be chapter one in this saga. And for that, we're going to turn to Paul, who's going to give us a recap. Paul, the mic is yours.

12:15 Thanks, Uncle Jim. Appreciate that. We've got hard copies here. We've got digital copies, all kinds of stuff. So this first issue came. Out a while ago, The Last Starship. And before I even get into any kind of recap or summary, I just want to tell you that a lot of times folks are like, oh, comics, what's up with that? And we are always looking at Star Trek reviews. as it appears on screens or in the movie theaters, and we're saying, I wish they would do this. I wish they would do that. I wish they would do a really compelling story. This is, without a doubt, one of, I think, the most interesting Star Trek stories that we've seen in a while. Really, really well done. I'm quite a big fan of this, basically. It's really well put together. The writers, I just want to call out on this before we get in here, is a couple of dudes called Colin Kelly and Jackson Lansing. who did the main IDW Star Trek tentpole title for a while before they moved on to this one, they met studying film at USC. And one of the reasons I mentioned that is this last Starship series has a real cinematic quality to it.

13:27 It's very visual. The dialogue is really crisp, really smart. It feels like a movie as you go through it. The panels are lovingly composed, like you'd Good cinematography would be done. So let's jump into this thing. These guys know their lore. They know their deep cuts. They are mega, mega fans. A lot of times they're referred to in the IDW world as the Hive Line together because they just know so much. So we start off in a brief prologue with Captain Delacorte Sato. And this captain, his lineage is interesting. He is a descendant of Lieutenant Sato. from both prior Star Trek stories and, of course, Hoshisato from Star Trek Enterprise.

14:12 So continuing on that legacy here, he's a really unusual captain. As you can see here, he's got a real blue character to his face. He is what you would refer to as like a polyglot of the species. He's human, Vulcan, Andorian, and even part Trill. So he's got a lot of mixture in his makeup there, a multi-species physiology, if you will, which makes him really, really interesting. And when we first meet him, he's in the middle of having a very successful envoy mission with the Gorn, a very old school TOS Gorn, right? And he's kind of the USS Sagan. And everything seems to be going really well, except we find ourselves right on the cusp of the burn, that galaxy-wide cataclysm that rendered all warp cores inert.

15:01 That we first learned about on Star Trek Discovery. So one of the things that these cats do really, really well is they take old school lore and newer things from Discovery and they blend them together and reference them all very definitely. So in the very first issue, I'm just going to kind of go through these first issues real quickly and then we can have enough of me and get into some better discussion here with the rest of our track experts here. We actually get to see the burn, which we never really, really got a lot of information about directly. Here we get to actually see it go down, which is pretty fascinating. So Captain Sato on the Sagan, he narrowly survives this cataclysmic disaster because his engineer, who's a Tholian, as I recall, beams him and three other crew members into the transport buffers of a torpedo shell that's been shot towards Earth. So pretty inventive rescue there. And he joins this desperate meeting of the few Starfleet officers that remain trying to hold everything together. Meanwhile, we get a visit from somebody very unexpected from the Picard universe there. It's none other than Agnes Durante, right? Leading a reformed individual respecting faction of the Borg, right? As sort of a new iteration of a queen, but different. And she comes and approaches Starfleet offering banned transwarp technology. as an alternative to everything that

16:32 the burn destroyed, helped create ultimately a brand new prototype ship in exchange for her being allowed to serve as chief engineer of that ship, which will end up being called the USS Omega. She does have one other small condition though, to being able to allow her knowledge to help them out there. She wants access to a very restricted specimen that's being stored at Daystrom Station, which is none other than the physical remains of none other than James T. Kirk, which is amazing. So all these things from Discovery, these things from Classic Trek, all this lore being put into the blender together quite deftly, I would say.

17:18 The issue number one ends where Jurati manages to resurrect Kirk into a fractured galaxy that's completely forgotten at this point, what the Federation really stood for. But things aren't bad enough. There's a rogue Klingon faction that's turning towards a very violent path of vengeance who's got it out for our heroes and the Federation in toto. So that's issue one. Pretty exciting. So there's issue two that we get in there, right? Very panic-stricken Captain Kirk on the cover, right? Captain Sato and his crew, all kinds of interesting folks, including a Navaran spy and a Ferengi, Dr. Zed, they're grappling with A little bit of distrust about Agnes Jurati and also their newly reawakened, time-displaced, cloned passenger, Captain Kirk. And there's a little bit of an ideological clash that we get, that is, I think, extremely well written, where Kirk and Captain Sato debate the nature of war and peace and leadership and And Sato confronting Kirk over all the casualties in his past military career. They're definitely from different eras, having a little bit of conflict with that. And they're in this transitional issue that kind of like trying to process the new post-burn reality. And all of a sudden the Omega is intercepted in an ambush by this warping armada that belongs to the Klingon cult that we had

18:50 previously heard of. So things are getting a little crazy. There's so many Klingon vessels in this armada, and they're up to such no goodness that Captain Sato basically says, you know, the smart thing to do here is we need. Somebody with more battle experience with Klingons. So basically, it's not looking good because this cult called the Black Path is really, they're. Outgunned, they're outnumbered. So Sato temporarily transfers command to Captain Kerr, who immediately orchestrates this brilliant tactical defense and starts referring to the Omega in spirit as the USS Enterprise. Very cool scenes coming up here. The Klingon attack on the ship is really kind of a misdirection, so that they can actually launch a massive strike against Earth. And to help settle this conflict, Kirk kind of advises Sato, he says, you've got to challenge these folks, They're not going to respect you.

19:50 There's no way out of this. You've got to challenge them. Sato is a pacifist. He abhors bloodshed. But he steps up to challenge the Klingon fleet commander to single-arm combat in a. I won't give away exactly how it happens. I'm sure there's probably a panel in here that will give it to you if you're keeping a sharp eye on our feed tonight. But he wins in Kick-Ass Man. He actually defeats the Klingon. I thought it was really exciting, really amazing, again, that kind of cinema-like panel illustration that we get throughout this whole series. Earth has been devastated by the Klingon bombardment and has decided to make kind of a big upheaval of a decision to break away and to clear independence from the Federation leaves our protagonists here and the crew of the Omega, along with Captain Kirk, in a very uncertain future. So that's kind of my 30,000-foot overview of these first three issues. There's a lot going on, as you can clearly see, but I thought it was just really, really well done. I was certainly intrigued as heck by these first three issues. I'm like, well, this is, I think, one of the better comics I've read from IDW in a while because it just felt really fresh and I felt like they were really trying to you know pay service to a lot of different corners of the Star Trek universe and put them together but in

21:22 a way I really didn't expect and I didn't find it something that was predictable I was really surprised and hooked like within the first few pages of that first issue I'm like they're going to interesting places I did not expect to see Agnes Jurati come back and so So that's just kind of my, you know, high level fuzzy midweek reminiscence. I remember things going, who wants to, to, to jump in here. And I know that a lot of the, the, the, the truck birds, funny joke, how that name came to be, but not experts. I have a lot to say about these episodes, John straws. How do we want to do this friends?

22:06 Well, I just wanted to start by saying, first of all, I love that they used Discovery Klingons. That was cool. That the Klingons that they chose to use were Discovery. Because they're often overlooked and often forgotten. So that was really cool. Seeing Agnes was also really cool. And overall, I thought this was a really fun read. It took me to places I didn't expect it to go. And it turned out to be more enjoyable, but I didn't really like issue number one when we did it. So I wasn't planning on going any further with it. I'm glad that I did because it does pick up and get much, much better as it goes along. So overall, I really enjoyed this three-issue art. The artwork was great, as you can expect. The story was good, and I don't want to spoil it for people that haven't read it.

23:00 But as Paul said, it does tie into Discovery. So I think a lot of fans that poo-pooed Discovery or didn't watch it for whatever reason, we get to see what happens to Earth, why Earth ends up how it does. We get to see the burn, what happens to the Klingons because of the burn. I really, really enjoyed it, and I recommend it as the lead fucker. I recommend it that you guys check it out because it's a really fun read, and it's well worth it. So Eric, Eric, I know I see the comics right behind you. Why don't you jump in next? Yeah, Paul is not wrong, everyone. This is this 12 issue arc is the best Star Trek comic that's come out in the last three or four years. I think since back in the like really awesome Star Trek Defiant days, those that's the last ones. I mean, unless you count Lower Decks comics, which have always been awesome, but have not come out for a little while. But but like in terms of like the serious comics, Star Trek comics, this is definitely by far. And I was absolutely gripped right from the beginning. I mean, Paul, it's interesting. I didn't know that about the guys that they were tied to movies and cinema, which totally makes sense because this first comic here opens exactly like a movie. Like you just, it's somebody kind of talking to themselves and then it goes into this awesome scene and then in a huge explosion happens and then the credits roll, right? The opening credits roll. And you're like, whoa, what just happened? And

24:31 then of course, right after the credits, you're in a totally different place, right? And it shifts scenes. And that is very much like what good action, good sci-fi movies do. So I love that. I love that right in that first issue, they defined who this Sato character is. And I personally have loved, you know, all of that Discovery did to kind of push that envelope into the, during seasons three and four, push that envelope in the 32nd century into, you know, more racial diversity. There were hardly any full-on humans on that show, other than the ones that came from the previous century. Everybody was mixed, and it made a lot of sense, given a galaxy that has become fully integrated with itself. So the fact that they tell you straight up front that he's got pointy ears because he's Vulcan, and he calls himself human, and he's got blue skin, so obviously he's Andorian. I missed the Trill one. I'm sure it's in the future issues or something, but But yeah, I love that. Him as a character. There are also some of these other cool characters.

25:32 What's this guy's name? Wowie Carter. I like Wowie. They are a very cool character. First officer. They come along and, you know, I won't talk to... Like, I don't want to spoil it too much, right? We're talking a little bit about... We're reviewing the issues. We're not describing the issues. But in Paul's opening, which I think is an important part of this, we get, and in this comic, we get the return of the Borg, right? And the. So as I'm, well, actually what I wanted to do, I wanted to read for you before I tell you anything else. I wanted to read for you my Goodreads review that I did of this comic because I reviewed this comic on December 4th, 2025. And the reason I want to read, because this is my initial impression before I read the rest of the 12 arc series.

26:13 Okay. I said, I'm giving the last Starship a five because after only one issue, I'm completely hooked. And a 4.5 isn't available on Goodreads. It is now. They've changed that. The writing so far is outstanding and the art is unique and interesting. There is a caveat though, but I won't spoil. I'll just say, what's the obsession with blank? I think you know who I'm talking about. I love 90% of this book, but found the need to bring blank into the story to be old and tired. Still overall a great book. What I'm talking about, of course, is James Kirk comes back and that's facilitated by Jurati, the Borg. And the reason that it felt old and tired for me at the time is because I've read the novel. that James T. Kirk himself, William Shatner, wrote about the return of James T. Kirk via Borg technology.

27:01 It's called The Return. And if you would like to read that novel, you're welcome to. I don't recommend it, but you can read it. So I was kind of like, man, are they going to regurgitate that story? Because I really hated that story. So that was my initial impression. I'll just let you know that that impression is completely changed as a result of future issues and the rest of what we're reviewing tonight. So if you feel the same way as you kind of start the series and you're like, oh, the Borg, Kirk, stick with it because it is worth it. I love her character here. I love the fact that she's been alive for like almost a thousand years or something at this point. So she's got all of this like great, you know, history in her. So yeah, anyway, that is my beginning impression first issue kind of review.

27:45 As we get into the second, so the first issue, like absolute five for me, as I got into the second issue, aside from the conversation that Paul was just talking about in the opening and the introduction of some of these other cool characters, this issue dropped off just a little bit for me. I mean, there's less of the kind of surprise factor and more of the story development factor. So I think the more you read it, the more the second issue becomes even more interesting because it's where it all kind of comes together. We, of course, get the rainbow view of Transwarp, which I think is awesome. We get to see the Cleave ship, which was one of my favorite things from the original Discovery. So wait, is this Cleave ship 1,000 years old too? Maybe it's a.

28:29 Newer Cleave ship. I'm not really sure. We get to see that sort of Discovery era set of Klingon ships, but we also get to see d7s and that kind of stuff apparently still around after all this time how does that how does that starship model never change i i don't understand why does everybody else get new ships but the important. Rule of all entertainment eric because it's. Cool okay no that's fair that's absolutely absolutely fair at the end of the second issue we do get kind of a like a brutal death which i will not spoil who it is but i will say that that was totally i guess it's not quite at the end of the issue it's more like in the middle of the issue but that was totally surprising to me and i didn't really care for the way that the last the second issue ends because it ends with kirk as the hero like kirk's like right you know coming in on the cavalry which of course is what kirk is there to do so you know i don't know one of the downsides of this story but that's okay The third issue was unbelievable. It brought everything home. It brought all of the characters together. You get one of my favorite characters doing cool stuff out on the hole so that stuff can happen. You get big cataclysmic things happening on Earth that are amazing and just mind-boggling to think about.

29:49 And the moment that Paul, I think, was alluding to earlier, when Santa wins... I'll just say thank goodness for programmable matter because that was freaking amazing. We're showing the pictures. So can I spoil it now that we're, yeah, basically what he does is he's in this fight. He gets stabbed and then he goes to defend himself and he puts his bat lift there and he says maximum size and the thing grows and it like, you know, impales the guy. So programmable matter is awesome because it'll do just what you tell. It to do. It's like a one pager, right? And it's just, it's phenomenal. Yeah. I think it's Adrian Bonilla who's the artist and it's just, it's epic. Yeah.

30:30 So I didn't have, I probably should have done a little bit more research. I'm not sure what other comics Adrian has done, but I found this style in particular to be really refreshing. It's kind of got this like roughness to it. And it has a lot of energy. Like things are just like constantly in motion and there's a lot of dark shading and all kinds of cool stuff. So stylistically, it's a very fun comic to read. And of course it follows the, the, this is what I call the modern comic paradigm where it's not just cells of squares. You get really cool layouts and you get one page, two page spreads. The coloring is really, really cool. So, you know, I should probably stop talking because I could probably just keep going. But suffice to say, if I haven't made it clear, I really liked this arc. For me, it was like the third one was the best one for me. The first one was the second best, but only by a little tiny bit.

31:21 And then the second one was my third favorite. But an absolute 5 out of 5 or 10 out of 10 all the way around for me. Eric, that guy's name was Wowie? Yeah. Because I was reading it, and I'm like, why are they saying Wowie? That was his name, yeah. I have a theory about why he's named that, but I could be way off. So his name's Wowie Carter. What's your theory? My theory is that his mother had the most difficult pregnancy delivery of all time, and that when the baby finally came out, she just exhaustedly said, Wowie. And it just stuck. I had canon, that's what happened. Because It fits, right?

32:02 Initially, I was kind of bumped on it, right? I'm like, that's just a weird name, but then they become such really interesting characters, and they're all so different, right? You can't mistake one character for another because they're so beautifully drawn, right? Very specific. Very specific. I love that Klingon, the female Klingon, too, Valquis. Valquis. She seems really cool, and in this first three issues, she's got a an interesting little story told about her just relative to somebody who's important to her. Um, yeah. And then I, as I remember, I'm pretty sure she becomes even more important in the later issues. So yeah, good stuff. Oh yeah. Did I, did I mention that the doctor's a Ferengi?

32:44 What the heck? Not, not only is he a Ferengi, but he's a drug addict. He's a drug addict Ferengi. Like he's literally, his name is Zed, man. Yeah. Zed's dead, man. Yeah, no, he like, yeah. So he shows up and he's high and he's high because he's depressed that the burn has just happened, man. And it just got me thinking how that would have happened to a ton of people, right? Three trillion people die in the burn. Those of us who are left over, like you got to guess that 40 or 50% would have a just complete hopeless like outlook, right? And then everybody else would kind of be like struggling to sort of push everything forward. So the fact that the doctor shows up high as a kite because he's depressed and he's trying he's like what does he say he's been high for like 17 days or something and he's been awake for 64 hours you know so anyway a little bit of a different federation but perhaps one that is realistic for a post-apocalyptic event society.

33:44 Absolutely so charles you want to jump in next. Oh definitely a few notes i kind of took over i thought especially rereading it again this peace treaty with the Gorn and how complicated the peace treaty was the Gorn you have to follow specific tactics you've got to sit there and show the upper hand show strength to them like you would the Klingons and one of Sagan's comments to the Gorn as the Gorn starts to say okay maybe we can try this is Sagan he says Sato says let this be our last battlefield and I thought what a great link to TOS that's a great TOS link Something we didn't really mention in this, and this is stuff we did learn from Discovery, the burn lasted five minutes.

34:34 The entire issue of the burn was five minutes. And the fact that you had ships, research facilities, fueling stations in cities, 96% of Starfleet was lost. When you think that 4% of society lived because they weren't close enough to dilithium to get taken out. I can see why some people were probably pretty depressed. I love one of the things with Zed was they said, Sure we couldn't get somebody else? That's the best we could do. But he's definitely an interesting character. A few people who scratch in their heads for when we keep saying Agnes. I love this callback. This is from, this is the Borg Queen from Picard season two. And she goes off into the unknown at the end of season two. So we don't know what happened to her. So this is an easy way of saying, they'd say Borg died off. No, the main society of Borg died off. her society who was different.

35:35 Charles if anybody wants to correct me too i just realized that i said a thousand years earlier she's actually more closer to 700 closer to 700 no no negative comments on the video. Please charles didn't they say somewhere in the comic book too that 32 clean on homeworld were destroyed something like that well so it was quite a bit yeah. But that but that's a So that's something that I just realized that I wanted to talk about. Is that in the third issue? So here's how I read that. And Charles, you tell me if you read this the same way. But I read that as Sato defeats the Klingon, right? So he gets control of the fleet. And I'm pretty sure that in that cell, he says, I ordered them to like basically kill themselves. That was how I read that.

36:25 I'm trying to find it right now. Darn it. You know what I'm talking about, right? I thought that 32 Klingon homeworlds were annihilated when the Dilithium went up, like Praxis in Star Trek VI. But I could be mistaken. No, it's here. So it's on this page right here. Sorry for my, but it's on this page. He says, let's see. 29 Klingon worlds light up. the dilithium detonations, their last transmission is a roar into a thousand voices, and then they're just gone. I think Sato commits genocide here. I'd love to get your take on.

37:09 That. Well, that would have to mean that those Klingons of dilithium factories planets whatever survived the burn in order for sato to do that correct well. Maybe does the does the klingon empire use dilithium not sure yeah because i don't think i don't think i'm not sure that it's just because at. The top it's just because of the top of that page he says they go into the darkness on my order back to their warriors halls and ancient battlefields on my order. I'm not sure if he means he goes and maybe he just sends them back to a way of being segregated away from everyone else might not have killed everybody might just send them off to live their lives away from society.

37:55 So i i read that the way i read it which again could be wrong correct us if we are. The way I read that was the fleet, the massive Klingon fleet that had been attacking, he sent them off to Stovakor or whatever. I was really unsure about this, guys, completely, but I did find one thing. It says that he doesn't explicitly order them to destroy themselves, supposedly, is the takeaway, right? Because he assumes command of the Blackfeet black feet the black flea has defeated them in combat right he orders them to return home like eric's saying right go into. The darkness right to your warrior halls right.

38:38 But because all of their warp cores are already destabilized or messed up after the burn sending them back to their home systems basically triggers this massive dilithium detonations across all those core worlds wiping them so it's both yeah right? It's not really part of the burn when it happened, but it's somehow all of the, it doesn't really, I don't really track on how come their stuff didn't blow up during the burn, but just sort of hung out waiting to be. Blow up later. But his mask, it's a little bit of 50-50. So is that, that makes it really good writing, right? Because we're sitting here trying to like exactly interpret this. And the first time I read it, I read it as, oh, he sent everybody back home. And then the second time I read.

39:18 It, it was like, oh, you're muted. Went to mute. You're muted, bro. I said he freaking told everybody to kill him. I was just saying that. It's like one panel, right? And you're just kind of like, wait a second, because it just goes to show. how dense stuff can be. Yeah. Right. And it's easy to just blip over it. And you're going, OK, wait, what? Where's the next battle? I totally interrupted you, Charles. Keep going. Interesting definitions to it. But when you see. The page, resolution, I'm not sure if it's resolution O or resolution zero, as Earth sits there and calls itself, declares itself independent. It's like, okay, Earth just abandoned Earth. Starfleet. Sorry, I got somebody in the background somewhere singing Viva Las Vegas. It's like, okay. But it's interesting, kind of citing why Kirk came back. And it's interesting kind of why they chose Kirk.

40:10 To come back. And I remember where I was at, I was explaining Girardi. But she went off into the unknown. And now we know the fact we've got a resolution that she was out there existing outside. Of the Borg universe. So when they admit the Borg collective was eventually destroyed, her collective still existed. But she was also a different kind of collective that did allow for some independence. So she's a different form of Borg. But I do like the concept that they have to go through the Transwarp, which is a. The system that the Federation abandoned. They abandoned the technology and did not want to ever use it again. And here they are here trying to say, okay, let's go try using transwarp drive. And how can we, well, how can we do it? Well, there is one way we can do it, and that's having the Borg help us use it and being able to use some of the Borg conduits, bringing Agnes in. And I like how they bring her in. And she's an interesting character. And it's not like you're saying, it's the Borg. I got to dislike this character. It's the Borg. It's not the Borg collective.

41:19 In fact, she does not bring in, from what I know, any other Borg but her, herself. And I like that she's bringing herself, herself is, and is independent. She does indicate that there's a group of them, but she indicates that they all have things like names. So she introduces herself as Agnes, for example, instead of we are Borg, right? Yes. Instead of their number designation. Which makes her a unique Borg, which makes her a more unique character and a slightly more likable character in this series. And there is something, there is a reason why she brought Kirk back. And I think we're going to really find out more about why she brought Kirk back in the next chapter. But I really like what they did with this series. And I got to the point to sort of read it and understand it. It's like, okay, I'm not going to read this book individually. I'm going to wait until I get three books, and read through the arc. Because I was down to, I'd gotten through three chapters, and I had the last set, yeah, three chapters, one chapter left, and it's like, I refuse to read the last chapter, because I want all three books before I can finish it.

42:30 So I was happy when those were finally released. But definitely a series worth getting into, especially if you like some of these Some of these parts of Star Trek. All right. Excellent. David, you want to jump in? Wake up, wake up, wake up. Put down that moldy cheese. It's not moldy yet. Anyways, so yeah, I think you guys touched down a lot of the stuff without spoilers. And I think it would be interesting to find out, because there's 12 comics for this entire series, if I'm not mistaken. And is that 12 comics, like the final chapter of this whole Star Trek, if I'm getting that right? Yes. So yeah, the fact that it ends with 12 books or comics sounds like it could be a really fun story now since we've only read three out of the 12.

43:19 But yeah, I really like the way that they brought Kirk back, to be honest. That was actually my favorite part in the first comic. I was like, wow, board technology, that's really nice. And to me, it was just like, When I was hearing all this time how they were going to be bringing him back, I just could not figure out how that would work. So yeah, I'm just kind of glad that they kind of went through this sci-fi explanation of how they could have done it, and board technology for cloning, I'm assuming, is what they did. They took part of his... Well. I mean, she kind of describes a little bit in the comic what the actual mechanism is, but one thing that's really cool about that, David, is do you remember.

44:03 that in. Picard, like, they show the Daystrom Institute where Kirk is, right? And it was like, what, a skeleton or something? Yeah, which I just thought was a really cool tie-in. So many cool Picard tie-ins, but that one in particular, it happens for that much time on screen in Picard, and they bring it into the story here. Nice. Cloning makes more sense, but it almost makes me think that the Borg used some of the, of course, nanobots, but in a way, like a programmable matter that came back. So I don't know. I'm assuming that they explained it more further along, but maybe not. I don't know. I haven't read all the other books yet. But yeah, this one in particular, I was really happy how they brought him back. That was my favorite part out of the whole three books. Other than that, yeah, you guys touched base on a lot in the talking about the dilithium.

44:53 I don't want to spoil it or anything, but you guys were mentioning that, you know, how Earth got blown up or something. I mean, did it completely blow up, or did it just kind of like... Because I was under the impression only parts of it, like the city, were kind of like shot at by. Yeah, I mean, they list a bunch of cities. Yeah. Okay. So it was just a bunch of stuff that was dropped on them, and I won't say what, just so you guys can go in and. Read it for yourself. But other than that, yeah, it's a really interesting story. I don't want to take up too much time because I. There's a lot of things I want to spoil, but I'm not trying to spoil it, if I could. But, yeah.

45:34 There was one thing I do want to say, though, and I really actually appreciate the way that they retained Kirk's revenge, so to speak, as he had when he mentioned that they killed my son, which I thought was interesting. So, yeah, that part, I was actually thinking, you know, if they're going to be bringing somebody back, they've got to make them like he used to be, right? So, I mean, just the fact that he has that, it just makes me think that he's actually there. Also, does anyone else think that Jurati or Angus, Angus, I guess her name is, has a little bit of a Kirk fetish? Well, of course she does, because, I mean, he gets all the ladies, right?

46:15 Kirk will suck face with anybody. He doesn't care. Green, blue, furry, don't matter. That's his M.O., Yeah, I just thought that was a little surprising. Was that book one? That was the end of book three, I believe, wasn't it? I think. I kept thinking it was book one. Let's find out. Okay. Might have been book two. I can't remember. I think that's where the chapter ends. Yes, it ends with that. End of three. Yes. Okay. Yes, quite. Yeah. So chapter four is where they have all the little Borg lists running around, I assume. But, yeah, so other than that, I really like the story. Yeah, I really like the story. I like the artwork. I thought the artwork was pretty good. And you guys mentioned the cleave ship. And I was like, yeah, they brought back a lot of old-style clean-on ships. But I think they did that mainly for, like, what Paul mentioned, you know, for the Neselgic part of it or something like that, just for the fun. So, yeah. To me, I think this whole thing was pretty good from top to bottom.

47:23 I really recommend it for people to read. So, yeah, there's my take on it. And, V, did you have anything to add to the conversation before we pass it over to Paul? Not really, because I, like I mentioned before the show, I was just trying to process everything, trying to put everything, you know, where everything came into the timelines with the burn. Because didn't the Starfleet Academy was after the burn? Isn't that when that started? Yeah. So I was just trying, I had a lot that was trying to go through my little brain and trying to figure out where everything fit into everything. And I did think it was interesting that, yeah, Agnes definitely has it.

48:11 has a Kirk fetish or Kirk kink going on, but that he was brought back. And so he, I guess at some point in this probably was mentioned before when he dies on that planet. Well, with the nexus and everything at some point in time, somebody gets his body and they bring it back to the Daystrom Institute. Is that what happens? Okay. So he's there just on ice, so to speak. Okay. Well, I think it's his, or it's his DNA or something. We don't exactly know, like, what's actually... Oh, yeah, that's what I was a little bit confused about. I think in the card they show, don't they show, like, a skeleton or something? Yeah, vaguely. And it was like a, it was a Section 8 station, a Section 31 station, something like that.

48:55 That's what it was, yeah. So, no, I thought it was clever. Well, they also had the talk tables, too, David, remember that? Yeah. That's great. No, I. I thought the style of the art, I don't know, was sort of, I don't know if I want to call it retro or vintage inspired to me from when I had comics back in the 60s and 70s. Did anybody else see that? It didn't. I don't know. It was just it was a cool it was. I'll admit I like the Lower Decks comics the best because I love Lower Decks. But this this was neat. This is definitely if you like Star Trek, give it a give it a shot. Go look at it. But hopefully as we get to more, maybe I'll understand it a little better. As we go through maybe the timeline and everything, what's happening, where, when, how, will make some better sense to me next time.

49:49 And with that, we're going to go full circle. And Paul's going to get the final word on Starship issue one, two, and three. The mic is yours, Paul. We are unable to hear you, Paul. You're on mute. You got to unmute yourself. He's not muted. He's having issues with his sound. I said he's mute. He's going to disconnect and reconnect. Hopefully that will take care of it. Can I mention one thing? I'll just mention one thing before Paul comes back. Oh, wait. Is he coming back right now? Come on, Paul. Wow, that was quick. That was very quick. That was very quick. Wow. There we go. Now we can hear him. Now we can hear him. You got audio? Yep. You got audio?

50:34 Yes. Okay, yeah. I really said a lot of, pretty much everything I wanted to say on the front end, right? I just think that, you know, folks who have not read a. Bunch of comics and you're like, okay, and maybe you walk in your comic book shop and you see, like, Lower Decks and this or whatever, and you're like. It's just too confusing. I don't really know what to do, and I just really want a good, you know, satisfying, you know. I don't know that I, I don't, a lot of people don't get into comics because they're like, I'm concerned that it's going to be 69 issues of, you have no idea when it's going to end. Right. A lot of comics are like that. Right. Like, you know, how many six chapter Avengers saga things can you read? Right. And it's just a lot and a lot of them are good, but I mean, this is really, it's a contained thing, right? It's like a really good movie, right?

51:17 You're getting 12 issues and you know, they're done. It's pretty much you can get all of them now. You don't have to wait and be hanging out. You can read them. I'm pretty sure most of them are packaged up in, you know, anthology trade paperbacks at this point. So you don't have to get individual issues. But the art is spectacular. It's just really good, satisfying storytelling. We've really put up with a lot of bad storytelling in the last like five years. Right. And section 31 would be my, you know, worst case scenario. I don't think there's ever been anything worse than Star Trek so bad. It's just, it's an abomination. I would say Shades of Grey from TNG. No, Section 31's worse. Section 31 isn't even like Star Trek. It's like, you know, it's like Michael Bay took some quaaludes and jumped into.

52:03 The swimming pool. I don't know what the fuck that. Was, but it was just, it's not Star Trek, whatever it is. It's just terrible. So we've put up with a lot. And a lot of times, you know, fans who've really been invested for decades are just like, man, can I just get a really good story? Can I just get a really good that feels like Star Trek by people who really know it and get it and love it? Right? And that's what you get with this one, right? I mean, are you going to love all of it? Who knows, right? But it's pretty satisfying and you get a whole lot of it and it moves at a good clip. That's one of the things I like about it, right? Is it moves at a really good clip, you know, not a lot. Of like lengthy navel gazing or you're going, why am I off on this subplot, right? You're basically staying with core, exciting things happening. And if you don't like one aspect of the plot, you're sure going to like the rest of them. And you're not going to have to wait for something cool to happen. So at the end of the day, I think that's what makes a good comic series, right?

52:56 And it's thoughtful. And the art is outstanding. Again, I just want to reference the principal artist here, Adrienne Bonilla. Wonderful work. And with the writing by Jackson Lansing and Colin Kelly. You know, Paramount you have done a lot of crazy things. And they're basically just like, you know, the same brain trust, right? The Ellisons, you know, they just like basically fired James Gunn and shaken up the DC universe again, right? The same decision makers, not so great. Hire guys like these. Guys to write some movies for you, right? Hire guys like Jackson Lansing and Colin Kelly who understand cinema and.

53:38 Understand how to tell a cool story. visually and an appeal to long lasting fans. So that would be my advice. And since you can't seem to figure out what to do under any circumstances at all, except fire people. I hear some people. I hear some people. I'm just like thinking about what if half of the Star Trek that we've seen recently was as good as this run. I, it would be unbelievable. Right. And some of this stuff that we've gotten in strange new world, like last season, strange new worlds. Right. We were all like, what? Did they hire a bunch of teenagers to write these episodes? What's going on? If they spent as much time really, really cracking the writing, really focusing on the writing and really emphasizing the writing, because you've got nothing without it.

54:25 I'm sorry. If they spent as much time focusing on the writing as they do. About what product to put in Captain Pike's hair and how tall it should be. Right? I mean, it's just, it's nonsense. It's just such a distraction, and it just trivializes the whole thing, right? And it's just, and you lose, you bleed pants as a result of that shit, right? Because it's just ridiculous. This is smart. And it's too bad, Paul, like, for you and me, who are comic collectors, and we literally, like, have a box, and we go every month, and we get our stuff, like, this is this is or whatever we have whatever you know i'm talking about but like this is fulfilling that like need for extra and not everybody has an outlet for that right they only have the shows because they don't want to go and collect like you said a bunch of comics that they don't know anything about or whatever um i just want to double down on what paul said that if you just wanted one other cool story that wasn't on tv and you like to read you should get this one because the the The thing that I think really cinched it for me was that the overall story is all about the different ways in which we work together when the shit hits the fan.

55:31 And that to me, there's no other more Star Trek-y message than that. That's about as Trek as it gets. Yeah, I agree. If it was a movie or a TV series, I'd be like, I'd watch this. I'd see this, right? Because it's got that same. Level of professionalism and a coolness factor that has just been really missing, right? And I think that's, you know, what we want. We want to be invested in characters that we want. To hang out with for a long time. Yeah, and Kirk would. Have been back. Captain Sato, he's cool, right? He's a pacifist, but when time comes to magnify his back life and gut the enemy, he's probably going to do it.

56:11 He's going to have. Bad dreams about it. He's going to have bad dreams about it. To jump into Paul's thing about trade books, I just looked it up. The Star Trek The Last Starship Volume 1, which is issue 1 through 6, is out. But the 7 through 12 is not going to actually be out until April 27th. But you still can get now. I will say this to fans. If you don't really want a whole box of comics, but you're still interested in reading these books and you want to support these artists, all these comics are available in Kindle edition. And I get these books in Kindle.

56:52 I have a Kindle Fire. I go through, grab it, and start just reading issues. And you can still collect comics, have a stack of comics, but they're a digital issue. But you're still paying the price to support the artist. Sweet. Different strokes, right? Yeah. So... these are guys to watch out for. I can't wait to see. I hope they are not completely. I know that last starship is done, but I hope they're not done with Star Trek. Right. I'd like to see these guys continue to do more stuff at IDW in the future. All these folks together, they made a really nice story here for us. It is well overdue. So excited for, for more from them and we'll see what, what happens. It's such a weird time. For Star Trek because we're in such transition and we've got nothing but, but smoke from the powers that be apparently.

57:35 I mean, you know, oh, starting over. And maybe this, you know. Yeah, I already fell asleep. Will the Dungeons and Dragons guys movie happen? Maybe. I mean, I'm sure they're like, if I'm those two guys, I'm sweating bullets, man. I'm making sure I got an exit plan. And plan B, some other studio. Because these guys, like, you know, wake up on the wrong side of the bed, they fire everybody. It seems really bad. Do you follow what's going on with the whole DC thing with James Gunn and those guys? Yeah. Jesus it is just it's so galling. Like how could you drive the savior of that universe out of the building that just is like are you kidding me anyway.

58:15 Yeah and what's really scary is the the guy that they've put in charge in his place right he is really into like when he looks at dc right and okay your quick question i. Know i'm sorry we're just diverging but But we are beyond, right? We are beyond. We're talking about comics. Yeah, when you think about Marvel and DC, which one's darker? DC, of course. Okay, thank you. So it makes a lot. Of sense to hire a guy to run your motion picture division who is really hoping for faith-based, family-friendly, grandparent-friendly entertainment, right? How many DC titles I can think of that are successful DC, long-running DC titles I can think of that follow that model?

58:59 None. Yeah, I can't think of one. Yeah, exactly. So it's crazy. So I don't know what they are smoking over there, right? But it's just, it's, it's, but that's what they're trying to come up with. And so it's just, you know, and James guns, just trying all. This different stuff. I mean, watch a few episodes of peacemaker. If you don't know what I'm talking about. But deceptively good. How is it so good? You look at it and you're like, this is going to be ridiculous. And I remember I was like, no, this is ridiculous and I'm going to hate it. And then I watched it and I was like, this is so good. I can't even believe like. Well he's a talented cat he'll end up finding good stuff to do somewhere it's basically paramount's facing it dc's facing it so it's just like it's it's ridiculous so i don't know brother but it's it's interesting times but but you know support your local comic books artists because in a world where movies are increasingly being boxed into little tiny niches of do well make billions of dollars that please everyone and offend no one right i mean People who are smart writers are going to the comic book world because they don't have to worry about that, right?

1:00:01 The interview I wrote with these two guys, they're like, why we do this is because we can come up with a crazy idea that would never get made as a. Movie, right? That they think is way too expensive and quite crazy. And it can be in your hands in six months. It's just like, what's not to love about that? As opposed to like millions of dollars to produce a movie that may or may not resonate with people. And you've got some bean counter watching you every move, right? I can understand not wanting to work that way. So it's pretty interesting. But a great time to support comic book. If there's one message to come away from tonight's episode with, this is an excellent time to rediscover the magic of comic books and to support local comic book creators, whether you want to, in your hand, physical or digital, as.

1:00:42 Charles advocates for. Either way is a great way to enjoy some pretty fresh entertainment with very few boundaries. So that's my sign-off. And with that segue... It's time to move on to our sci-fi birthdays. That was not a Klingon song. No, it wasn't. And I just noticed something for the first time that Forbidden Planet Robot is in that picture there. I never saw that before. All these readers are watching it. There it is.

1:01:34 Wow. Anyways. Which we reviewed on this podcast a couple of weeks ago, I might add. All right. We always start off our Star Trek birthdays by sadly enough remembering those members of our sci-fi family who are no longer amongst us. And for that, we turn to Eric. Yeah, Jim, this week we are going to start beyond. And we are going to say happy birthday to the actor Jonathan Harris. He was the American actor whose career included more than 500 television and film appearances. He's probably best known as the fussy villain Dr. Zachary Smith of the 1960s science fiction series Lost in Space. That is where I first saw him, I think. He also provided the voice of the Cylon character Lucifer, an antagonist on the original ABC version of Battlestar Galactica. And was also known as Mr. Piper in the Land of the Giants episode, Pay the Piper. But, you know, Jonathan Harris spanned a lot of other series. We've got some great ones up here on the screen. Thanks, David, for putting these up. He, of course, was on Bonanza. I also remember him from Twilight Zone. I had no idea he was in Toy Story 2. So there you go.

1:02:53 Thank you. Thank you for that, David. So happy birthday to Jonathan Harris Lost way back in 2002. Happy birthday as well to actor Carl Stevens, the actor who played the nine-year-old version of Spock in Star Trek III, The Search for Spock, the number of Spocks being represented on screen being one of my favorite Star Trek trivia questions. Carl Stevens, this was his first feature film appearance. He again played the younger version of a Leonard Nimoy character in the 1991 made-for-television Never Forget, directed by Joseph Sargent. So he had, you know, older version of Leonard E. Moy slash Spock, and then Leonard E. Moy's character from that movie, he also played the younger version. Stephen was also briefly a regular performer on the series Webster during the 1986 to 1987 season, and on this family drama. He also appeared in a 1981 episode of Little House on the Prairie, in which he played Elizabeth Rogers' son, His film credits following Star Trek III are comprised of 1985's Teen Wolf, 1989's Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, and 1990's Welcome Home, Roxy Carmichael. Unfortunately, his story does include a tragic loss of life at way too young an age. You're welcome to go check that out if you would like to learn more. But Carl Stephen, we do miss you. Lost back in 2011 at the age of 36 years old.

1:04:22 Happy birthday. Happy birthday to Norman Lloyd, the actor who played Professor Galen in the Next Generation sixth season episode, The Chase. Somebody who Picard considers to be his absolute mentor, right? He's the guy who, you know, brought Picard up in a non-Starfleet way. Because, of course, everybody knows if Picard had not been a Starfleet captain, he would have been an. Does anybody know? Yes? What would Picard's job have been? Archaeologist. He would have been an archaeologist. An archaeologist at Granada. And Professor Galen. Indiana Jones. That's right.

1:05:02 And Professor Galen was his sort of, you know, way to get there. So Norman Lloyd not only played Professor Galen in The Chase, but he's probably best known to television audiences for playing Dr. Daniel Auschlender on the drama series St. Elsewhere from 1982 to 1988. which is funny because I saw that entire series as a kid, and I think I was too young to see it. But it was really good. Lloyd began his career in show business performing in theaters before Alfred Hitchcock cast him as Frank Fry in the 1942 film Saboteur. He was in a ton of movies from the 40s, 50s, 60s, all the way up through the 90s. And from October 2017 until his death, He was the oldest living known actor to have appeared in the Star Trek franchise following the death of Star Trek background actor Dick Cherney, who was only two days his senior. Did you know that Norman Lloyd lived to be 106 years old? 106 years old.

1:06:05 So we lost him back in 2021. He was born in 1914 on November 8th, just a few days ago. Wow. I hope I live to be, you know, 30 years less than that. So thank you, Norman Lloyd, for being not only Picard's guiding light, but for being a very long-lived and very prolific actor that we get to see all over the place and part of American culture as a whole. Happy birthday. Happy birthday as well to Thelma Lee, whose birth name is Thelma Letterman. She's the actress who portrayed Kaelest. in the Next Generation third season episode Sins of the Father. Lee started her career as a comedian in the comedy series Toast of a Town in the early 1960s. She, of course, is also the sister of late actress and producer Madeline Lee Gifford. She also has credits for the 1979 drama Voices, the 1982 drama The King of Comedy, and 1988's They Live, in addition to the science fiction film 1994 Future Shock. Among her last known appearances are the comedy Always Say Goodbye and two episodes of the remake series Love Boat, The Next Wave from 1998. Happy birthday to Thelma Lee. Happy birthday to actor Roy Scheider. Although his film career commenced with the campy Z-grade horror cheese fest The Curse of the Living

1:07:36 Corpse from 1964, he. Had a very successful career. He's best known for his leading role as Police Chief Martin C. Brody in the first two Jaws movies. He's also known as Captain Nathan Bridger, designer and commander of the Naval Submarine Sequest DSV. That's right, for three seasons. It essentially is Star Trek underwater. If you haven't seen Sequest DSV, it deserves a watch. It's better than the worst of Star Trek. It's not as good as the best of Star Trek, but it is definitely better than a lot of bad Star Trek. Scheider played a rebellious helicopter pilot in the John Badham conspiracy action film Blue Thunder from 1983. And I don't think he was in the TV series, though, right? I remember more about the TV series than the Blue Thunder movie.

1:08:26 I was big into helicopters as a kid, so definitely love helicopters. He was also a scientist in the sequel to 2001 A Space Odyssey titled 2010. the year we make Contact, which was released in 1984. So Roy Scheider, all over the place. It's hard to believe that he has been gone for 18 years, lost back in 2008. Happy birthday, Roy Scheider. Happy birthday to Vincent Chiavelli, the actor who appeared as the holographic Minoan peddler in the Star Trek Next Generation first season episode, The Arsenal of Freedom. You know this guy. I mean, look at his face, right? You've seen him in a ton of things. His role as a patient in the 1975 Academy Award-winning film, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, was stellar. Of course, that movie directed by Milos Forman. He had later collaborations with Foreman, including 1984's Amadeus, another fantastic movie. In Tales from the Crypt, Schiavelli appeared in the episode Mornin' Mess, and he also played the role of Lenny in The X-Files in the 1995 episode Humbug.

1:09:40 He appeared in over 150 different film and television shows, becoming a familiar face in both media. In 1987, Vanity Fair magazine named Chiavelli one of America's best character actors. And why not? Look at that face. He somehow got an amazing acting ability and a really unique look. So not surprising to me that he had a very successful career. Lost back in 2005, unfortunately at the very young age of 57 years old. We honor Vincent Chiavelli this week as well. And last but not least on our remembrance list this week, we have actress Kim Hunter, the American theater, film, and television actress who was not in Star Trek, but we go beyond here.

1:10:25 She achieved prominence for portraying Stella Kowalski in the original production of Tennessee Williams' A Streetcar Named Desire, which she reprised for the 1951 film adaptation and won both an Academy Award and a Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actress. Decades later, she was nominated for a Daytime Emmy Award for portraying Nola Madison on The Edge of Night. She also portrayed the chimpanzee Zira in Planet of the Apes and its sequels Beneath the Planet of the Apes and Escape from Planet of the Apes. Happy birthday to actress Kim Hunter. And that does it this week for our remembrances.

1:11:05 So I will pass the flaming birthday candle over to you, V. All right. My first happy birthday goes out to Carolyn Seymour. She's a British actress who appeared in five Star Trek TV episodes as four characters across two spinoff series. She was Taris in TNG Contagion, Marasta Yale in TNG First Contact, Torethan in TNG's Face of the Enemy, and Mrs. Templeton in Voyager, Cthexas, and Persistence of Vision. So happy birthday to Carolyn. Next, we send out a happy birthday to Mary Chifo. She is an actress who played Laurel in the first and second seasons of Star Trek Discovery. She reprised the role in Star Trek Online. She also voiced Kalara in the Star Trek Lower Decks fifth season episode, A Farewell to Farms. Next, somebody who I hope I get to meet at a convention, Robert Duncan McNeil. Of course, he played Tom Paris in every episode of Voyager. And we know that he had previously appeared as Nicholas Locarno,

1:12:38 In TNG fifth season episode, The First Duty. And later two Lower Decks fourth season episodes. And that's the whole thing with he looks like, you know, Locarno looks like Tom Paris. I don't see it. That whole joke. I love that from Lower Decks. I know. It's great. It's great. Yeah. I keep waiting for the episode of some show where we find out that they're like secretly like, clones of each other or something. That you know that would be great yes and he's also directed episodes of voyager and enterprise so happy birthday to robert duncan mcneil and last i have a good happy birthday going out to max groden chick He's also credited as Michael rodent chick. And of course he's best known for his portrayal of ROM on star Trek, deep space nine. My question is when Lita would say ROM, is she referencing back to Rob in the Dick Van Dyke show? Does anybody know? Because that's what it, that's, that's interesting that I, I, I, Didn't even think to, when we, I was still too new to know what to ask people, but when we briefly interviewed.

1:14:01 Chase Masterson. Yes, yes. I would like to know. I know. Because the way she says it just immediately takes me back to the Dick Van Dyke show. That would have been a great thing to ask her. I know, I know. Because I just, the way she says it. Oh, Rob. I just. Rom is, like, my favorite Ferengi of all time. He's just, like, so amazing, right? Because he's the Ferengi who's, like, not Ferengi enough to be taken in by the Ferengi, right? Yeah, well, he started off... You know, when you see DS9, he's totally different in the very beginning. And then he's really stupid. And then he winds up being absolutely brilliant.

1:14:44 So he has this really interesting character arc. I got to meet... the actor who played his brother. You know, of course, I met Armin Shimmerman this past March, so that was kind of cool. But Max was born in Queens, New York, and before getting the role of Rom, oh, he auditioned for the role of Rom's brother, Quark. And fun fact, in one of my favorite DS9 episodes, Take Me Out to the Holosuite, where he's playing baseball badly, he was actually going to be in professional baseball. And so he was really good at it. And he had to pretend that he was when he threw the ball and the ball falls like four feet ahead of you.

1:15:29 So he had to pretend like he was really bad at baseball. So that mask of his helped that acting quite a bit. I'm sure. All right. Now, flaming candle of birthdays. I don't know what that was. Goes over. to Paul. We need a new transition for this. I don't know. I don't know. The, the, the, the laws rocket of napalm, whatever we want. I've been thinking about a few things like that. Like, like honestly, I've been starting, like, you know, we've got enough time here. So I'm just going to like soliloquy for a moment. I've been thinking about that, like the opening song too, like that. I love our opening song.

1:16:12 Right. And the video is amazing, but, but Jim, we wrote that song, like, three or four years ago, probably at this point. I think it's maybe time for another new one. And it feels to me like it's a little long. Yeah, it's good to mix things up. You don't always say the same thing every time. Now, we have been using Billy Joel for a very long time on this podcast. I don't even know how, since, was Billy Joel, does he predate me even? Yes, yes, he does. Yeah, so whatever we do, it has to be based on We Start the Fire. That's tradition. But we have revamped that song. Good to have a project. Exactly. We have revamped that opening song several times over the course of years.

1:16:54 Oh, yeah. It's just we've been around a really long time. And it's good to mix things up. The cell toys loved it. He did. Everybody loves it. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Jim's bad with names. You mean Brian Volk? Uncle Jim's had some heart problems. Where are we? Whose turn is it? I'm waiting to be introduced. Flaming birthday candle over to Paul. That's right. The phoenix of felicitations. Let's say that for tonight. Okay. So, okay. We've got a bunch of them. Let's get through it so we can do whatever else we're about to go do.

1:17:37 Paul has unseen episodes we have yet to be taking of. Rebecca Romaine. actress who plays Una Chin Riley on Star Trek Discovery, second season episodes, and Obol for Sharon, and Such Sweet Sorrow, and Such Sweet Sorrow Part 2, try and say that three times fast, Uncle Jim. Such Sweet Sorrow. She reprised her role, of course, in Star Trek Short Treks, Q & A and Ask Not, and that memorably evolved into her turn as series regular of Unich and Riley on Strange New Worlds, which is fantastic. And it's great to know that we still have episodes to look forward to. Seeing what happens to number one in that part of the universe there, which is pretty cool. So, of course, no difficulty finding work for this one. She's always very, very busy. And, of course, memorably embodied the role of, sorry, embodied might have been an unfortunate choice of words. Her role is mystique. In the X-Men film series, that was pretty fantastic. So I don't know. Another movie with X-Men stuff happening, come down the road.

1:18:46 Will we see her in that again? I don't know. It's entirely possible. But anyhow, happy birthday to Rebecca Romain. Absolutely wonderful. Huge happy birthday to the luminous Alfre Woodard. American actress, of course, we acknowledge for her role as Lily Sloan in Star Trek First Contact. But this is a person who's done some tremendous work in her lifetime. She was nominated for the NAACP Image Award for her role in First Contact and then voiced kind of an alternate reality version of the same character in Star Trek Lower Decks in the fifth season. But what an amazing actress she is. If you were watching that show on Netflix this year, The Burrows, we talked about briefly. She had a really substantial role in The Burrows. She was in the 2004 I think it was a version of Salem's Lot, but a lot of really memorable work. Cross Creek, Brooklyn, Primal Fear, so many great films. Twelve Years a Slave, Love and Basketball.

1:19:52 She was in Annabelle as well. She works a lot and is really, really talented and just one of the most... I've been wanting to go back and revisit First Contact recently because The anniversary of that movie is coming up in a couple weeks here, so I've been wanting to go back and check. It out again. But her scene with Patrick Stewart, I think it's among some of my favorite work that he did, it seems to me. She's just a wonderful performer. To have somebody of that caliber in the Star Trek universe is just amazing. And I'm hoping at some point, speaking of, well, I can digress, but there's some casting about season two of Star Starfleet Academy, I hope we're going.

1:20:32 To discuss later tonight if we do. Sorry, I keep digressing tonight. I just can't help myself. Anyhow, I'm Humphrey Woodard. We love you. Bottom line, okay? Happy birthday goes out to the absolutely amazing Lou Ferrigno, okay? Acme, fitness trainer, consultant, and retired professional bodybuilder. Back in the day, he won an IFBB Mr. America title and two consecutive Mr. Universe titles. and appeared in the bodybuilding documentary Pumping Iron, which, of course, is where it all began for many folks, including Arnold Schwarzenegger. He's best known, of course, for portraying the title role in the television series The Incredible Hulk with Bill Bixby.

1:21:13 Absolutely. I remember watching that so many times, man. It was just great. He's also appeared as himself in the sitcom King of Queens and the 2009 comedy Love You, Man. But a wonderful person and a very... You're never going to mistake Lou Frigno for anyone else. Fantastic. I met him at a convention, Paul, and he would think, being the Hulk, that he would be this big Hulk. But he is the most friendly guy you'd ever want to meet. He's very neat. Awesome. And he's not really green. Spoiler for people. But he really is a nice guy. I really enjoy talking with him.

1:21:55 Very friendly, very personable, very nice guy. And this is a. Guy who's really had to overcome profound challenges. He lost like almost 85% of his hearing as a child. He had some severe ear infections and nerve damage, right? And he used to have to wear these really big, bulky hearing aids growing up. And he ended up having a speech impediment because of it. Made him a target for bullying and social isolation, which is how he found bodybuilding. As a way to cope with all that stuff. But absolutely phenomenal role model for somebody who's an advocate of disability to see what Lou Ferrigno did with his career.

1:22:38 He didn't let that be something that defined him for the rest of his life. He built his own life about who he wanted to be and And it's lovely to hear that he was a really decent. Isn't really decent human being as well. I can confirm. I think Compassion will do that. I met him at that GalaxyCon in March. And he is a good-sized guy. I mean, I have big hands, but when I shook his hand, he's just got these great big mitts. But he's just the kindest guy. I gave him one of our cards, too. So it would be a cool day. No, we'd love to have you on. Oh, that would be awesome. Continuing on with our birthday cavalcade of stars. Let's give it up to Wallace Shawn, wonderful performer, American actor, and also playwright, let's not forget that, who we know for playing, of course, Grandnader Zach on Star Trek Deep Space Nine.

1:23:32 What great casting that is. Absolutely indelible, but he's a wonderful character. I first became acquainted with Wallace Shawn in the iconic movie, My Dinner with Andre. People forget about that movie, but it was so. impactful and just really made a, it's not like anything you've ever seen before. It's two men sitting down having a conversation, of course, in the movie. Life, philosophy, literature. Has anybody on the show seen My Dinner with Andre? No, but everything you just said sounds amazing and I'm looking it up right now. It's not like anything you'll ever see. Yeah, it's fantastic. And of course, Jim's referencing his turn as Vizine in The Princess Bride, right?

1:24:14 Never kissed a Sicilian, and that's his other line. I mean, he's just so fantastic in that film. I remember him, too, in. Woody Allen's black-and-white masterpiece, Manhattan. There's this big, you know, Diane Keaton's character is just, oh, my ex-husband, Jeremiah, he was so masculine, he was so virile, right? She's always like, My ex-husband Jeremiah, and he builds up this like he's going to be Paul Bunyan, right? In the clothing stores. And it's Wallace Shawn. It's just a hilarious moment. So he's not afraid to make fun of himself at all. And what a great career he's made out of it as well. But happy birthday to. You, Wallace Shawn. We adore your work. And hopefully people are performing their plays. Lastly for me, I've got a big one here. I've got a big star.

1:25:01 I don't know if I might need to put my sunglasses on because this is some serious wattage. For a movie star here, whose birthday is actually today. Amazing Anne Hathaway, star of Screen and Stage. She is an Academy Award winner, a BAFTA winner, a Golden Globe winner, SAG Award. Winner, Primetime Emmys. In addition to all of the different things that she's done, ridiculous amounts of work across one. Of the biggest stars in Hollywood. right now, right? Okay, and became hugely successful in her role as Selina Kyle, a.k.a. Catwoman, in Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Rises. And then, of course, right around that same time, in the big romantic musical Les Miserables, she played Fantine as well. Continued working as often as she can. Anybody who's worked with him wants to work with Christopher Nolan. She just continued to work with him on several different films, of course, Interstellar being one.

1:26:02 And then just most recently, this summer, of course, she just blew the doors open in his production of The Odyssey, where she played Penelope from the legendary histories. Absolutely phenomenal performer. Really, really great. And she's, of course, been in Ocean's 8, all that, and The Devils Were a Product 2 recently. Working a lot, Anne Hathaway. Maybe take a day off. I think she did. I think she had a baby recently. Well, and Paul, the movie that we just reviewed, right? The End of Oak Street. End of Oak Street. That's right. Yeah. End of Oak Street. Yeah. We just talked about that a couple of weeks ago. Yeah.

1:26:44 But she's all over the place. Does a ton of cool things. And I heard that she, I can't remember the title of it. But there's this book that's been getting a lot of heat about trad wives, right? And it's a horror picture. And I know that she optioned it recently. And she's going to be doing that as well. The heat on that thing, I'll look up the book later. And I'm sure you can find it, listeners, if you care. But she's got a nose for what's hot and what's good. And she gets herself cast in these things. I don't know who her agent must be. Amazing. But anyhow, your work has been phenomenal, Anne Hathaway. And we adore you. So maybe if you feel like slumming, come on our show. Talk to us about all the cool things you've done. That would be an amazing experience.

1:27:28 We'd love to have you on it. We promise not to call you what's-her-name. Sorry. Can't resist. Anyhow, that's a lot of folks having birthdays, all of my fellow Scorpios out there, which is great to know. But I know there's more stuff and entertainment to come. We haven't even gotten our beaks wet into the movie of the week segment yet, so I'm going to take my incendiary. complimentary festive enlightenment and pass it over to Uncle Jim. Because who knows what cinematic fun is on our way. We have some good movies in Uncle Jim's movie of the week. And I'm going to start off with a movie that was released on November 6th in 2009. The Fourth Time. There's the poster right there on the screen.

1:28:16 Sci-fi thriller written and directed by Othunde Olsumne. You guys know him from Star Trek. Starring Mila Jovovich and Will Patton. The title is derived from an expansion of J. Allen Hynek's classification of close encounters with aliens, in which the fourth kind denotes alien abductions. The film is a pseudo-documentary. purporting to be a dramatic reenactment of true life events that occurred in Nome, Alaska. The fourth kind. That's our first movie. Next up on the list is a classic. Released on November 7, 1997, Starship Troopers. Directed by Paul Verhoeven.

1:29:01 Based on a 1959 novel by Robert A. Hyland. Set in the 23rd century, the story follows a teenager, Johnny Rico, and his comrades as they serve in the military of the United Citizens Federation, an Earth-based world government engaged in an interstellar war against an alien species known as the Arachnids. The film stars Casper Van Dien, Dina Myers from Star Trek, Denise Richards, Jake Busey, Neil Patrick Harris, Patrick Muldoon, and Michael Ironside. Starship Troopers. Next on our list, we have Thor. The Dark World, it was released on November 8, 2013. Obviously, it's a superhero film based on Marvel Comics character Thor.

1:29:50 It's the sequel to the Thor movie, which came out in 2013. It's the eighth film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which I think is up to 247 movies by now or something like that, with 258 coming out next month. So there's a lot of them. The movie stars, of course, Natalie Portman, Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, a bunch of people. Idris Elba is in it. Christopher Eccleston, who I believe was Doctor Who. Correct, guys? Yep. And Anthony Hopkins. So check out Thor, The Dark World. And I thought we were out of the horror movies because we're out of October, but not quite yet. We have Child's Play 2 next up on our list. It was released on November 9th, 1990.

1:30:41 Supernatural slasher film written by Dan D'Addio. Chucky 2, yeah, check it out if you'd like. Next on our list, we're going to swing back into sci-fi. We're going to talk about Communion. It was released on November 10, 1989. American science fiction film directed by Philip Mora and adopted by Whitney Strieber from his 1987 book starring Christopher Walken. It tells the story of a family that experiences an extraterrestrial phenomenon while on vacation at a remote home wilderness, which happens to be right here in upstate New York. where Whitney himself is abducted by aliens. The story is a real-life account of his own encounter with visitors, played by Christopher Walken as Streber. So check that out if you haven't seen Communion. And sticking with our alien theory, we have The Arrival, which was released on November 11, 2016.

1:31:43 It's an American science fiction drama film directed by Denis Villeneuve. and written by Eric Heisner, based on the 1998 novella Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang. The film stars Amy Adams as Louis Banks, a linguist engaged by the United States Army to discover how to communicate with extraterrestrials who have arrived on Earth before tensions lead to war. It also stars Jeremy Reiner, Forrest Whitaker, and Michael Solberg in supporting roles. The Arrival. And last on our ever-growing list is Skyline, which was released today, November 12th, in 2010.

1:32:25 American sci-fi disaster film directed by Craig Collins Strauss and co-produced and written by Liam O'Donnell. It stars Eric Balfour, Scotty Thompson, Brittany Daniel, Crystal Reed, and David Zayas as a group of Los Angeles residents who witness an alien invasion while in a condominium. All right, guys, so of all the movies that were released on this week, what movie did Uncle Jim pick for you guys to check out? There's some good ones on the list. Maestro, if you please. Can you state your name for the camera? Dr. Abigail Tyler.

1:33:06 Okay, where would you like to begin? I am actress Mila Jovovich, and I will be portraying Dr. Abigail Tyler. This film is a dramatization of events that occurred October 2000. Every scene in this movie is supported by archived footage. Some of what you're about to see is extremely disturbing. I wake up in the middle of the night almost every night. There's nothing unusual waking you up? There's one thing. There's an owl at my window. An owl? It's not even a pig. A white owl. Just looking at me. Had you ever seen it before? Tommy? When I was a kid. Just staring at me.

1:33:48 I've seen it a lot. Every night this week. Four, three, two. Tell me about the owl. Tell me about the owl. Doesn't look like a normal owl. There's no owl. It's not an owl. Owl! That voice speaks Sumerian, the oldest language in human history. You can go into any Sumerian exhibit and see etchings and sculptures of men in spacesuits and oxygen masks. Rockets that look like Apollo. Do you believe in abduction theories? You don't mean alien abductions, do you?

1:34:29 There was more fear in his eyes than I've ever seen in my life. What's wrong? No! There are more missing people in Nome than any other town in Alaska. I have to get this out of my. Head because it's dug in there and I can't think straight. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. We got to send backup. What'd you see? You were there. I can't explain it. Someone or something. It came into my room. And it took me away.

1:35:22 All right, guys, the fourth time. I picked this particular movie because, first of all, I was scared the bejesus out of me when I saw it. It has an open ending. It leaves it up to you. Was it real? Wasn't it? Did she make it up? Was it really aliens? What's going on? Really good movie. A lot to think about. And I think it flew under the radar because there were so many other great movies. But The Fourth Kind. Check it out if you're looking for something interesting, fun, creepy, and scary that might give you something to think about. The Fourth Kind. Can we do honorable mentions? Because of your list, man. If your list... I love The Arrival. I think that movie is fantastic. It's one of Amy Adams.

1:36:05 No, no, no. Sorry, I love Arrival. It's one of Amy Adams' best movies. It has such an amazing plot. It has such a great mystery unfolding. I can't wait to watch The Fourth Kind, Jim. That sounds awesome. I have not seen that movie. The Arrival was the first one that got me excited on that list. And Arrival is directed by the great Denis Villeneuve, right. Who does Dune, Dune 2 and Dune 3. It is pure cinema. It's amazing. So I've never even, I don't think I've even ever heard of it. I'm going to have to check it out. It's a sleeper. Well, that's. That's a sleeper on me. I mean, I've heard of Communion with Jimmy Stryber, but. That's why I picked it.

1:36:45 I've never heard of this one. I try to pick movies that my truckers haven't seen before and that our listeners and viewers may have missed. open you up to something new like trick or treat a couple of weeks ago. So that's why I picked the fourth time. And, uh, excited guys that grabs up our show, believe it or not. Another show has come and gone, but next week we have a really good one. We're going to have a lot of fun. We're going to be doing AI and sci-fi. And, uh, We're going to talk about all kinds of AI that we see in movies, everything from 2001, Space Odyssey, to Terminator 2, Blade Runner. Who knows what we're going to talk about?

1:37:26 Yeah, and my hope is, Jim, that we're going to use these movies to talk about the way that AI has been depicted in the past. But then I really want to focus on how is modern AI developing today? And what are the ways in which we can responsibly manage that as we go forward based on all the lessons that we've learned from the past, right? Have we, Eric? Have we? I'm hoping, V. I'm hoping. Let's talk about how you should not trust billionaire tech bros. That will be part of the discussion, Paul. That's the inroad, right? I think on Facebook where there are these guys that have been doing these interviews. I didn't know companies are doing AI interviews. interviewers and they're messing with them. And it's hilarious. You get the interview.

1:38:13 Yeah. Right. What you were saying. There's this guy, his name is Bo Bongo. And he does, it's either on YouTube or Facebook. I forget where he pretends to, he gets an interview with some like Burger King or something, but they have an AI generated interviewer and he messes with them. And I don't know, you just have to see it. But, but, and these AI bots are supposed to respond and he just does everything he can and they increasingly get angry. So I say, that's the way that we cause AI to self-destruct should we need to. something to keep in our back pockets. I mean, that's classic sci-fi is logic paradox, right? You put the AI in a logic paradox, Nomad got destroyed by a logic paradox, like plenty of other Star Trek things have gotten destroyed by a logic paradox.

1:39:07 William Shatner to do is best. And they will. So we're going to have, and Whitney will be joining us for that show being an IT person herself. So she's looking forward to joining us and sharing some of her stories about eye at work. So, guys, that's it. I hope you had a good time. I hope you enjoyed our conversation tonight and that you're going to run out and pick up the last Starship comic book or download the digital version on your Kindle, if you will. And I just want to take a moment to say thank you so much to each and every one of you. Thank all my Trek birds. We'll start off with David. Thank you so much, David, for hanging out with us tonight and putting together these awesome videos. Thank you so much, David.

1:39:50 Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. It was. It was. And thank you so much to Charles as well for hanging out and Trek talking with us tonight. Thank you, Charles. Thank you. It's always fun. Always fun to bring some comics in occasionally. And thank you, V, for hanging out with us tonight. Thank you so much, V. Glad to be here. And thank you, Eric, for hanging out with us and Trek talking as well. Thank you so much, Eric. Truck birds unite. Truck birds forever. You know, we're going to have to redo our artwork to turn us all into birds. Yeah. That cartoon from the 80s. Absolutely, yeah. I just want to be an angry bird. I don't want to be an angry dude. And of course, thank you so much to Paul for hanging out and talking with us tonight. Thank you so much, Paul.

1:40:34 Any chance to talk about comics and stories? Count me in. I wish it was a lot of fun. We have some more. We have future comics to discuss as well. So don't worry. Comic Corner will be back again. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Oh, and right behind me, see this poster here? Right here that I'm pointing to? The Freakopolis Geekery over in Whitehall, New York gave me this poster. It's from the new Star Trek Magic the Gathering game. I'm going to see if I can get another one on Friday night. And when we talk about Star Trek Magic the Gathering, which we are going to do very soon, I'm going to give one of these posters right here away to one of our lucky fans. So stay tuned for that.

1:41:16 I'll have details on our Facebook page. At any rate, I just want to say thank you to everybody. Live long and prosper. Please, everybody, stay safe and be good to each other. Hailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody. Good night. Live long and prosper.