April 18, 2025

Episode 632- Star Trek Fan Film review "Starchild"

Episode 632- Star Trek Fan Film review "Starchild"

In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and his co-hosts engage in lively discussions about Star Trek, including fan films, local events, and the complexities of character choices in the series. The episode features humorous banter, fan shout outs,...

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Fan Films

In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and his co-hosts engage in lively discussions about Star Trek, including fan films, local events, and the complexities of character choices in the series. The episode features humorous banter, fan shout outs, and insights into the Star Trek universe, all while encouraging listener engagement through Patreon support. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the complexities of Klingon honor and justice as portrayed in Star Trek The Next Generation, particularly focusing on Worf's decisions and actions in "Reunion". They discuss the implications of Worf's parenting choices regarding his son Alexander and the challenges he faces as a father. The conversation also shifts to the realm of fan films, highlighting their creativity and the constraints they operate under, while appreciating the efforts of fan creators in maintaining the spirit of Star Trek. This episode celebrates the birthdays of notable Star Trek actors, discusses recent news and updates in the Star Trek universe, including William Shatner's insights on space travel, new collectibles, and upcoming literature. The conversation also touches on the Starfleet Academy series and the conclusion of the Star Trek Omega comic series, highlighting the ongoing legacy and evolution of Star Trek. Let's see what's out there...ENGAGE!

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And I love him and squeeze him and call him George.

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Edward is any back?

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Said Wolf is were Checkov's wearing red tee.

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This cat jimpacks that you has had enough for that

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pennie of make it.

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So everybody, let's.

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Go about the series.

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You usus now talk about the series.

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We're coming to your services.

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Now we talk about the series.

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Well, good evening, Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe. It

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it's Thursday, April seventeenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode

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six hundred and thirty two of trek And I'm your

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most excellent host, Uncle Jimmy. With me here on my

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shoulder is my pet glomer His name is George. I'm

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gonna love him and squeeze him and give him all

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the love in the world. He protects me from all

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those killer tribles like the one that's on David's head

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right now. So he's my little he's my Guardian. You

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guys may even remember him from The Star Trek, the

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animated series episode More Troubles, More Tribles. So, without any

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further ado, I'd like to introduce my awesome Trek Sports

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and we'll start off with Eric. Eric's out in Portland.

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How you doing tonight, Eric, I'm doing good.

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I'm kind of waiting for the like Trible Glommer show

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down at some point. We've now introduced George and so

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at some point George has to eat the triple right,

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That's just how it goes.

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He's gonna have to jump through the screen and grab them.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'll tell you what, I am doing pretty good

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this week because our one of our local newspapers, to

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Portland Mercury, sponsors one week every year a Pizza Week,

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and so this week in Portland you can go to

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various pizza establishments and get specially crafted four dollars slices,

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twenty five dollars pies. We're talking like high quality pizzas

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all the way up until the twentieth of this week.

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So so I'm planning on getting myself some ranch pizza

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at Barely Brewery tonight.

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That's my big plan. Pizza it's good people.

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We also have Paul out in Portland as well. How

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you doing tonight, Paul, Hey, I'm good Man, doing all right? Okay.

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And we also have out in Portland, David. How you

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doing tonight, David, Welcome to the show.

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Okay, I'm doing pretty good. I think my triple is

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giving me a good idea, though.

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I'll have to send George over to take care of

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that man. At last, but not least, we have Charles

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Charles is out in Las Vegas. How you doing tonight?

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Charles Charles is muted, That's how he's doing.

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I'm doing okay. There we go other other than I

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think Mother Nature has been drinking again again. We were

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there nineties last week. We're down to maybe seventy today.

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Seventy.

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Well, you know, Charles, if you were more of a

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conspiracy theorist guy, you would probably say it's because that

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Goodyear blimp constantly flies over Vegas these days. I don't

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know what's going on there.

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I haven't I have not seen it for few years,

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and they're not seeing it. Twice in the past two days,

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so I don't know.

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Conspiracy, Yeah, it's.

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It's it's it's it's adding those contrails up there.

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Mhm.

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Is it really traveling fast enough to add contrails?

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That's amazing.

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I don't know, but it's been with pretty good speed

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across town.

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So yeah, j just frozen in a permanent smile. I

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love it.

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It's like I think.

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That it isn't it's a vampiric glommer.

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Yeah, his uh is totally frozen, isn't it? It is.

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It's pretty funny actually, I mean, at least it's in

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the absolute best of possible face.

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I know how we can.

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I know how we can unfreeze it, though. Oh yeah,

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that's one.

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Way to do.

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I gonna say, if we if we just start denigrating

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Star Trek five, I think he'll, oh yeah, happen find

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a way. Well, ironically regrettable choice it was, but it was.

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Frozen to you. It was reconnecting to me.

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Okay, Oh, could he just jump back into where he's

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a host.

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I believe that he can. He's probably gonna message us

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here in a minute. But uh, but yeah, I'm gonna

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say that that's a good chance that he had some

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kind of internet issue or something.

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Well, I just jumped on my corn and just connected me.

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I'd like that right, Yeah, exactly, Well, I guess we

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could just press on without him and we could say

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all the things that he would normally say. So Jim

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would normally say at this point, Well, what he would

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love to do is remind all of our listeners about

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our Patreon page. That's right, we have a Patreon page,

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and starting at just two dollars per month, you can

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become a member, a patron, he always says, become a Patreon.

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This is my this is my opportunity to correct what

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Jim normally says. So on patreon A you're you going

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to be busy, you become a patron and for just

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two dollars a month, that's all it takes. You can

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join up. Now, you might say to yourself, two dollars

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a month, that's very valuable to me. What might you

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get for two dollars a month? And what you get

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for that amazing price is that you get the video

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feed that many of you are not seeing right now

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much more quickly. And if you're one of those people

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who's like, I need it, I need right now, this

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is the perfect opportunity for you because two bucks a

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month is I believe only about thirty five percent of

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a cup of coffee right now?

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And I mean, are you factoring in for tariffs right now?

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I'm sorry, only only fifteen percent of a cup of coffee.

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Okay.

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I have been really curious do we know do we

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are we able to include in our marketing how many

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patrons we have at the stage? Do we know how

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many we have? I've been very curious about that factor.

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Is it more than two?

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No?

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To help people that come on.

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Transparency, we want more patrion. So we have a couple

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where you could be. So this is our chance, folks

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to join a very exclusive club. Okay, only a handful.

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The elite membership of one person would literally add thirty

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three percent more. Okay, alright, currentless.

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One of the patrons Jim just the way he.

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And the other way actual podcast way he goes.

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He puts up a poster his teck talking and then

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he comes to the post is gym and likes it

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to increase the light counts.

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It's like that.

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It might be like that, but you know, actually he

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can't post on I get I get to be I

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have to be the one posting.

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Oh so you're saying it's a Charles in charge kind

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of situation.

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Yes, it is actually Jim. Literally, Jim's got one of

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the freebie accounts.

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Oh yeah, I mean he doesn't even need to pay, right,

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all right, Well, so you could become a member of

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a very exclusive club for only two bucks a month,

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and you should do it because it would boost our

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egos by at least thirty three percent. So just just

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give it a go, you know, why not two bucks

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a month. But if you don't feel like doing that,

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which you should, the next best thing that you can

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possibly do is go to www. Dot trek Talking dot

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com and you can check out many of our previous podcasts.

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We have what did Jim say, six hundred and twenty

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something podcasts? That is not how many are on the page.

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We were.

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There's been like so many iterations of this podcast. We

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have four hundred and something on that page right now.

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And let me tell you, like episode sex to.

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Thirty two, so I think we've got four hundred and

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twenty something on this that's like two thirds of our

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podcasts are available on that web page. And I will

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tell you there are some real doozies in there, man.

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There are some times that we talked about the Gorn.

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There are some times. We talked to some Klingons. We

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talked to Chase Masterson once and she was totally awesome.

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I mean, we talked to Tim Russ. There's all these

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people that we've talked to in the past. I know

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that you would love to know all of the things

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that they had to say and all of the great

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questions that they.

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Ask or that we can Director Nicholas Meyer. Nicholas, I mean,

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come on, Nicholas Meyer was like he was only a

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few weeks ago, and that was that was something that

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we were all very excited about.

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And then welcome back, Jim, seems you brought an echo

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with you.

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Cock Ca Well, Jim, we've already gone through that people

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should become patrons, and we've already gone through the website

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address right now, and I was just about ready to

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start talking about what we were going to do on

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tonight's show. So if you cared to unmute yourself and

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tell us, oh you could, that now would be an opportunity.

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And we'll give you five seconds to comply.

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Well, I'm trying to figure out how to get this

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echo to go away.

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Well, don't worry about the echo right now. Just tell

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us what we're going to talk about tonight, except now

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you're muted, so you can't possibly talk.

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No, I could talk, I can absolutely talk.

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I I can barely hear him.

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Can you hear him?

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You can't hear me?

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Yeah? Your viome's way low, brother, very low.

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Wow, that's not good.

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Very low.

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Oh, that's a little bit of volume control up on,

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but glomer closer to your mouth.

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Yeah, what's what's the deal with this here?

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Yeah, you sound like you're you sound like you're under J.

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D Vance's couch. That's good stuff.

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Well, I'm I'm on maximum volume right now. I can't

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turn it up any louder that, but.

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We can hear you a little bit better. Now, that's good.

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Wow.

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Tell us what it's like under jd Vance's couch.

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Well, you find any gun?

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I don't want to tell you what I found here.

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You're better off not knowing.

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Some of Mydrie Taylor Green's hair may.

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Geez could be. I don't know whose hair it is.

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Well, considering a bald on your shoulders, it's my triple.

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It's not a triple George, George. You gotta tell you, George.

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You gotta respect George.

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It's George. Well, let's start we're gonna be talking about

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Star Child, the Star Trek fan film from Tales from

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the Neutral Zone by our good friend Ray Tessi, who's

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been on the podcast many many times. We're gonna watch

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it and talk about it a little bit later. We're

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also gonna have our fans shout outs where we thank

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our fans just like you for listening to the show

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and being fay Full followers. We also have some poll

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questions tonight when poll when cultures collad warf has to

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make some hard, hard choices, and we kind of touched

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on this last week and now we're gonna swing back

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around and discuss it this week. We also have a

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Star Trek Birthday, so you can find out what Star

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Trek actor you share a birthday with. And also in

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our Star Trek universe, Shatner says, we have a new

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Enterprise toy which which Paul is going to tell us

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about a new Star Trek. Strange New World's novel by

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James Swallow is on the way, and what does Buffy

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the Vampire Slayer have to do with Star Fleet Academy

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you'll see a live long and prosper tint to the

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top of the page, click on that and tell us

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where you're listening from, and then listen to the next

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show to hear your name mentioned in a fan shout out.

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Without any further ado, Eric get us started with our

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fan shoutouts.

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You got it, Jim, our very first fan shout out

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jumps just across the pond to Manchester, Lancashire in the UK.

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This person has sent us one, two, five separate emojis.

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It looks like a person lifting weights. It looks like

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a strong arm, some praying hands, perhaps a fox and

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a bee. If I had more time, I would decipher

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that into some kind of sentence, which I'm sure there's

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some sort of cryptology involved there. But we're saying hello

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this week to our good friend David Wolson Croft, who

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is saying hello to us from one of our biggest

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supporters over there in the UK. Thank you, David so

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much for saying hello to us this week. We hope

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you are listening right now and hearing your name, and

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we hope that you will tell us what all of

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these emojis mean, because they're amazing. We're also saying hello

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this week to jan Lee Greville, who is saying hello

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to us from Queensland in Australia. That's right down Unda.

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We have some support, and that is I've discovered, not

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entirely on the other side of the planet, but is

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very very far away, Let's be clear. So jan Leegue Greville,

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thank you so much for saying hello to us, and

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we say live long and prosper to you. Also saying

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hello this week to Yalma Christo who's saying hello to

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us from Bao Horizonte in Brazil. We have lots and

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lots of support in Southern America as well, South America,

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not Southern America. Let me be clear, South America. Alma

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is one of those great people who is supporting us

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down there in that amazing country of Brazil, which I

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hope to visit someday. You probably don't want to visit

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here right now, but maybe I can come to your

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country and we can say hello to one another. So

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thank you Yama for saying hello. And last, but not least,

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on my list, I would like to say hello this

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week to Steve Crowell, who is saying hello to us

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from Ontario, Canada. Hey, Hey, a right back to you, brother.

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I speak Canadian. Trust me, I know what it's all about.

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Excuse me a boot. Thank you, Steve, Charles, who would

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you like to say hello to this week?

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Oh? Thank you, Eric. Let's start off with a warm

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welcome to Ronnie Riggs, who claimed to be right here

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in Las Vegas. Did a quick look on the Facebook

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link and he doesn't have any friends that are tricky's

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in town, so he needs to find more trickies in town.

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Welcome to top fan Mary Stephen from Hotsville, Pennsylvania. Hope

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the weather's starting to warm up over there. A warm

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welcome to John Honey Holcombe from Pennsylvania between Philly and Allen'stown.

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I wonder if Marano's John. And welcome to Elmer Klott

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from Wisconsin, probably sitting back and joining some cheese right now.

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David, Wisconsin.

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I'm sorry I have to say that every time I

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hear Wisconsin. I just want to say that it's I

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can't help myself.

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And who's on your list? Who's not from Wisconsin? David? Oh?

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Yeah, thank you, Charles. I would like you say welcome

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and one thank you to Mary el Slow. Sorry w

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w okay Slow.

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I'm gonna say it's July that's it. Sliwa is like.

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A slee Wa kind of thing from Florida.

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All right.

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Next time my list is a pop fan to marry

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Valco Diggin from Illinois.

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Next is Dave.

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Mundine from Pittsford, Pennsylvania, and last my list to all

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the warm welcomes to all the ones that I've just announced,

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as well as Stephen Sen from Brandonton, Florida, just outside

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of show Toda. So that's interesting. So Paul, who's on

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your list?

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Thank you, David. I appreciate that. Well. You know, it

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is a big planet and there are Star Trek fans

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everywhere and in all the different parts, all the quadrants,

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all the countries, all the continents, if you will. And

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we have a lot of folks in England that are

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big Star Trek fans. I feel particular kinship to England

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this week. I'll have to mention more about that later.

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But first of all, let's say hello to our good

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pal Christopher Douglas of Warrington, originally born in Manchester, then

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lived in Stockport in England, which is of course the

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United Kingdom, but is now living in the Sierra Sur

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Deene region of Andalusia in Spain and Christopher's got just

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pretty much every flag flying you could have, right, He's

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got the English flag, the UK flag, the Union Jack,

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the Spanish flag, He's got them all. And he's a

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man of much European frivolity there. But he's also a

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star Trek fan and that's what makes us happiest to

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mall to know that you're out there representing Christopher Douglas Warrington.

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So thanks for being a fan and reaching out down

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the road from him. In London, we have Robert William Graham,

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also a big star Trek fan and big fan of

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the podcast, So good dear from you, Robert. Live along

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and prosper leaping continents to South Africa where all kinds

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of interesting things go on. We're saying hello to our

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friend Cobus van der Vest and I hope I'm pronouncing

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that right. Cobis Cobus founder West Heightsen is in South Africa,

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so great to hear from you. Very very interesting climate

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in South Africa, so you can handle just about anything

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if you're able to cope down there. And finally to

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spin continents all over the place again, we're going to

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go back to Europe. We're gonna go to lovely Austria,

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magnificent part of the world to Gratz a city in Syria,

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to be clear. So that's what we got, and our

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friend in Austria has got the very interesting moniker of

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Till Reloaded. So I'm not sure if that was was

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that a delivery room name or was that a name

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adopted later in life. I'm not really sure Till reloaded.

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It's like I was once Till, but now I'm Till reloaded.

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Still reloaded. Okay, So kind of like when they talk

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about a movie franchise reimagining itself, right, I guess that

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could be what happened, so.

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For the Matrix reloaded for example.

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Exactly, So I think Till is out there sans apostrophe,

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just making it happen however they care to do. So

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good for you, Till defining your own reality. I can

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get behind that. So hello, non United States Star Trek fans,

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wherever you may be, I am proud to count myself

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as one of you. So I have a fantastic weekend

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coming up if we can just get through the next

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couple of days. Let's pass that over to King of

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the East Coast with his mighty Echo Chambo.

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Looking screen right there.

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It would be Uncle Jim, take it job.

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JA like to say thank you to Brian T. Coughlin

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who's listening to us in Rochester, New York right now,

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Thank you so much, Kalem Thompson who's listening to us

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in Orlando, Florida, Gerald w Olt Junior who's listening to

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us in Denver, Colorado, And last but not least, Brian

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Gregory in Springfield, virgin That wraps off our star face

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and shout outs. And now it's time for our star track.

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Poland, Poland, Poland.

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You know we like no win.

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What you thought about the show.

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Then we try to share your opinions with all of

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our minions out there because they listen worldwide. So tell

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us just what you think. Get together we will alter

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Canara and romulan Ale.

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All right, Roller David.

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Us, what is that the way?

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Here?

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He has claimed the right of vengeance. You have no

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rights here, traitor, Kaylar.

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Was my bit. I'm the only one war. If you

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only wanted to improve your essence, kill me. You're your

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trade forever. The nut horse shall be.

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All right. So that should be a little hint at

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to what our first poll question is.

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Take it away, Eric, anybody else's heart just thumping right now?

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Man?

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That was intense, all right. Well, as you know, that

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was a awesome scene from the TNG episode Reunion, and

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in this episode, as we just saw, Warf ignores his

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Starfleet oath. I'm not sure where that what that oath is,

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but I'm sure it's to not kill people whenever possible.

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And Gill's following his Klingon heritage. Does he make the

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correct choice? And of course there's only one answer for this,

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which ninety six percent of our responders agreed to. They said, yes,

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he absolutely made the right decision. Four percent said no.

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You know, maybe that four percent just didn't like Kaylar.

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Not really sure, but in this case, for me, Wharf

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absolutely makes I mean, come on, we've talked a lot

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on this podcast about how Wharf straddles the world between

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Klingons and humans. In this episode, clearly he has to

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respond to some of the shit that Duras has been pulling,

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and he's been pulling it for a little while, and

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really the only way to deal with this guy is

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to take him out in the Klingon way. What I

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had forgotten about this one was that Duras apparently fights

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with a katana or something.

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I was that even.

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A Klingon weapon.

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I don't even know.

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To me, he has no honor for simply not fighting

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with a klingon weapon. So yeah, he deserved to die.

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Take him down. Worth made the right.

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Decision, right, you agree with them?

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I told one hundred the ninety six percent of the

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minions said, so I one hundred and four percent agree

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with them.

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All right, how about you, Paul? Are you with the

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minions or not?

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Well? I think clearly when you watch that clip right,

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Wharf has the superior moves. Absolutely. I love that bit

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where he like pulls the battlet and kind of tucks

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into his arm and then it's just like, you know,

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faces the hand to face. It's like, that's great. I

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like that a lot.

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Yeah.

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According to the Internet, Doros just uses a sword conventional

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clingon sword nerk s.

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It's not even like a regular kling On sword. Is

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the ballots, right, and then there's the little one which

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is the mecklith. But that was clearly like.

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A sitting Yeah, poorly prepared as usual, right, I don't, Yeah,

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I was. I also tripped on this starfleet oath. I

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don't really think that that's what was going on. I

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don't remember any oath about refusing to kill bastards. I

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don't think that's a Jordan the academy they.

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Killing old woman, but somebody.

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I do not think that's that's anywhere in there. So

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that's us and again his clingon heritage way it is. Second,

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there's a lot more going on than that, right, I mean,

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you know, bottom line, Duras killed his woman. You deserved

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a freaking die. You know that happens. It's just, you know, sorry,

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mafia rules on all stuff, right. The only mistake Wharf

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made is he didn't resurrect Drass so he could kill

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him again and again and then you know, Warf should

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have like unzipped and like pissed all over his corpse. Frankly,

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I mean, you know, set him on fire and then

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pissed all over that. You know, It's just seriously, you know,

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Desert Duress is like one of the worst people in

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all of Star Trek. He deserved to die ten times over.

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I'm done now.

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Wharf didn't kill his son when he had it chance

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later too, so he could have done that. How about you, Charles,

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Are you with the minions or against him? Oh?

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Definitely with the Minions on this one. Huh you sacrifice family, Okay,

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then you deserve to die from the loss of family.

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And yes, yes, previously Wharf's had a katy where for

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Cards been there to bring him down? Well, for Card

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wasn't there, and Rocker was too late.

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Well and that was that was a teenager too, right,

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That was like a different scenario, like Dras was clearly

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in charge, knowing what he was doing, an adult making

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adult decisions, whereas you know, Son of charl was a

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little bit different.

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All right, all right, so how about you, David Minions

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or no Minions.

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Totally with Dominions on this. I'm I'm glad that they

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got uh, you know, the what do they call that,

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like a vengeance or something? So uh And I do

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agree with Paul they they didn't put a good intense

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battle scene there. But also I think I think what

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that question was all about the Starfleet oathways, the whole

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idea of not disobeying your captain, because I believe further

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behind that scene where there was a talk between the

476
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Wharf and the captain going uh back and forth about

477
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.079
like you know, the Klingon do this to your family

478
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.839
and all this stuff. But I guess I could have

479
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.440
probably recorded that part in there, just to make it

480
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:54.759
more of a thing. But uh yeah, I think I

481
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:56.880
agree with the minions. They I think he did a

482
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:57.839
pretty good job.

483
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.920
All right. And I'm the minions too off with his

484
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.880
head and he was on honorable, no honor, and he

485
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.519
deserved to die, all right, David.

486
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.839
And according and according to him memory Alpha, there is

487
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:17.880
a basic sword and fact Wharf has a pair of

488
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.160
them on his wall in this episode.

489
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:23.759
Oh there is a non Kalos sword.

490
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.680
Interesting, yes, and you know Picard does. There's that little

491
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:29.839
scene at the end, right, this little kapper right where

492
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.240
he says, I'm going to put a formal reprimand on

493
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:33.240
your record, right.

494
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.200
Yeah, sorry, I feel terrible.

495
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.759
Right, I'll use that as a coaster for my beer

496
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.559
when I'm toasting Kalis's death.

497
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.599
Yeah, I know, somebody goes to higher a Wharf and

498
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.960
they're like, I don't know, you have a formal reprimand.

499
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.319
On your Oh yeah, doing really?

500
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:49.640
Yeah?

501
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:53.599
Yeah, the one I wipe my butt with? Is that

502
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:54.039
the one?

503
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.799
Yeah? Okay, all right, well David, roll the tape for

504
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:07.480
the next one.

505
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:20.799
My parents, my human parents who meet us at STARB

506
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:21.720
seventy three.

507
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:23.359
They will care for you.

508
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:33.039
Why can't I stay with you.

509
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:33.319
A family?

510
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:36.440
They can provide that.

511
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:55.920
I cannot, right, mister too, are you my father?

512
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:06.039
Yesh, I'm your father?

513
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:28.279
Now there's a spoiler alert, all right, Eric as if

514
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.559
people don't know our question.

515
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.000
Yeah, I mean this, of course, was from the TNG

516
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.559
episode Reunion. And in this episode, Warf finds out that

517
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:40.720
Alexander is his son, and after Kilar is killed, he

518
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.200
sends his son to live with his human parents. Do

519
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.799
you agree with his decision? And this is one of

520
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:53.359
those times when the minions I'm just frankly completely surprised

521
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.240
by their response. Seventy four percent of our responders to

522
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.279
this poll said that Warf made the right decision, and

523
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.920
twenty six percent said that he made the wrong decision.

524
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.039
Because I get to read these polls, I get to

525
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.119
give my opinion first, and I will tell you that

526
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.960
I don't think we've had a poll where I have

527
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.799
disagreed with the minions more than this one. This is

528
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.440
such a wrong decision. Even in that scene that we

529
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.559
just saw, Okay, he says you deserve a family like.

530
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:27.319
At a home.

531
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.960
I cannot give you that. How many families do we have?

532
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.440
Living on the Enterprise. There's like a thousand people on

533
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.400
this ship. There's wives, there's kids. We see Naomi Wildman

534
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.559
have a very nice time living on the Enterprise. It

535
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.799
is clear that the Enterprise is a great environment for families.

536
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.720
Wharf is just being straight up lazy and honestly, he's

537
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.119
being a little bit racist here because he's like, I

538
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.359
can't provide that for you here. Why because there aren't

539
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.240
any other Klingons on board, Because you don't want your

540
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:02.359
kid raised with humans, and you know, buyinars and whoever

541
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.920
else comes on the ship. This is just Wharf being

542
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.480
a straight up bad, bad dad. And what's awesome about

543
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.599
this scene is that it actually leads to future problems.

544
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:19.759
Right future Alexander reacts against this pretty strongly in a

545
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.599
couple of different episodes. So I have to say, if

546
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:25.960
seventy four percent of our responders said Wharf made the

547
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.480
right decision, I will say I two hundred and seventy

548
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:35.720
four percent disagree with them, and that clearly Wharf should

549
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:39.920
have been a good dad in this moment and actually

550
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.319
kept Alexander round. And I'm sure that Alexander would have

551
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:43.839
had a great time growing up in the Enterprise. Man,

552
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:45.680
can you imagine him like showing up on the bridge,

553
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.279
like Wesley shows up, showing up in the transporter room

554
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.359
talking to the chief, showing up in the sick bay

555
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.480
and talking to Beverly. I mean, think of the things

556
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.279
this kid could have learned, Think of the amazing time.

557
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.720
I'm sorry, I'm ranting. I'm on my soapbox because I

558
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.200
feel so strongly about this one.

559
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:01.440
But what do you really think?

560
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:03.799
Wait?

561
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:04.839
Did I leave anything for you?

562
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:05.079
Guys?

563
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:07.000
Opposite?

564
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:12.279
All out there? Eric, don't hold back, Okay, see my

565
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:18.480
heart's right here. Well how about you, Paul? Do you

566
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:20.640
agree with the minions or disagree with him?

567
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.880
It's I I like it. I mean it's an amazing scene, right,

568
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.440
And it's just like there's the scene doesn't have any

569
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.960
teeth to it if he brings him on board, right,

570
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.720
I mean it's the thing is it's heartbreaking, right, It

571
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:37.359
is heartbreaking thing, very difficult to watch, especially if you're

572
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.079
a parent. Right. I think that you know what it is.

573
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.400
I think and my guess is that they probably had

574
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.920
it in mind to set up, uh, you know, future

575
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.880
visitations of him, and and I think a lot of

576
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.759
it is not that he's a bad dad. Necessarily right.

577
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.720
He is just out of his depth. I mean, so

578
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.519
much of like WARF's arc through the show has been

579
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:03.599
somebody who is uncomfortable and feeling out of place and

580
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.559
not able to do what others do easily. He's very

581
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.599
difficult with that, right, He's very I am rigid and

582
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.559
I do not fit in, right, I mean all the time, right,

583
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.440
He's super uncomfortable with that. He was this is this

584
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.440
episodehere he finds out that he's a dad, right, and

585
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:23.559
then he loses his his mate right there. All this

586
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:25.360
has been going on for years. He didn't know he

587
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:27.000
had a child, right, and then all of a sudden

588
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:31.599
it's just thrust into his consciousness. I think he is

589
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.679
very slow to come around, right, I think it is.

590
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.920
I'm not saying he's right, right, but I think he's

591
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.599
very much in like Warf mindset of like, you know,

592
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:43.119
this is a ship of you know, in his mind

593
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.960
it's even though it's really not, it's a warship, right,

594
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.039
And he's worried that like, okay, he could be you know,

595
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.519
and he's just I will be doing my job and

596
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.000
I can't be. He's heard these preconceptions about what a

597
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.800
dad is, but he doesn't really know because he's not

598
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.559
been one yet, and I think his own tensions and

599
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.039
preconceptions are getting in his way, is what I think's

600
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.119
going on here. I think it's an incredible act of

601
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.639
bravery for him, given who Warf is, right to admit

602
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:12.079
that he is, Yeah, I am your dad. I think

603
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.360
it's hard for him to do that, and I think

604
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.320
that's what comes across for me. It's just like it's

605
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:18.920
difficult for him to do that because he's got so

606
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.159
many barriers up and defenses, you know, of Wharf, and

607
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:29.000
I think he's probably really afraid. My guess is because

608
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:35.719
like you know, Kaylar was, you know, how can I

609
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.599
put it. I think he's just really afraid of the

610
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:44.039
kid going through, you know, being exposed to being an outsider.

611
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.079
I think Warf feels like an outsider for a lot

612
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:48.920
of his life, right he saw Kaylaar growing up. Is

613
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.480
a very well adjusted outsider, but still an outsider. And

614
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.599
I think he's just he doesn't feel like he's equipped

615
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.880
to do a good job. I think it's as, if anything,

616
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.079
it's a sign that he just feels like he's he's

617
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:03.440
not competent, and he doubts himself at this point too much.

618
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.400
He doesn't, he hasn't, he's unfamiliar, he just doesn't. He

619
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.559
doesn't believe he can do it. Rather than say that,

620
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.039
he just sort of, you know, says, my parents will

621
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:12.599
take care of you, and he's you know, it's it's

622
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.760
an impulsive decision, right, he thinks he's doing the right thing.

623
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.000
But I think he will come to regret it, because

624
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:21.159
of course in later seasons he's he is there. Right.

625
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.199
So it's really tough. But what a beautiful scene, right,

626
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.519
But it just wouldn't have that poignancy if if he

627
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.840
stayed right, And I think my guess is on the show,

628
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.199
after like everyone hating Wesley Crusher for as long as

629
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.079
they were, they were like really reluctant to bring a

630
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.840
kid as a regular character on the show. So wow,

631
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:41.239
I went off to Eric, how about that. We both

632
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:43.639
we both did many monologues.

633
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.599
No, I mean, I think you're you make a couple

634
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.719
of good points. I mean he does. So he sends

635
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.360
him to live with his parents rather than like sending

636
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.840
him to Kronos or someplace. Right, So it's not a

637
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.400
it's not like a cultural thing. I think is he

638
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:59.239
trusts his parents because he knows that, you know, theoretically,

639
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.360
Alexander's not kind to turn out any worse than he

640
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.679
turned out, you know, grown up with the same parents.

641
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.519
But his parents are kind of surprised by this. We

642
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.519
don't see that in the scene, but his parents are

643
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.320
kind of surprised by this too, and they feel, I

644
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:18.039
think a little bit like oh okay, yeah, yeah, we'll

645
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:24.639
do that, you know, not completely embracing of the idea.

646
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:30.039
His mom's like, what is wrong with you? You're a

647
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:36.119
stupid Dwarf? I thought you be a better then you know,

648
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.920
which is you know what you should do? So yeah,

649
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:40.199
who's who's up? Charles?

650
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.960
All right, Charles? How about you? Minions are against dominions?

651
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.320
Well, I think I'm kind of with the minions on

652
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:51.840
this one, and the fact that being in education, I

653
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.880
do see the occasions where the parent or parents or

654
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:05.159
parent isn't ready to deal with being a parent and

655
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:10.679
oftentimes passed the kids off the grandparents to raise because

656
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:15.559
they're not they're they're not mature enough to be a

657
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:21.199
parent yet themselves. So I think what happens here is

658
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:25.039
Worf's just not ready to be a parent. I think

659
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.719
Warf was expecting all of a sudden's like, Okay, I've

660
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.880
got a mate that is back. All of a sudden,

661
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.119
I got a kid, and it's like, I'm not ready

662
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:39.119
for this. I'm a lawyer, I'm in charge of security,

663
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.400
I've got all these duties, and I'm not ready to

664
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.760
sit there and take care of a kid too. I

665
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:48.960
think that's really what the thing is that Warf wasn't

666
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.760
ready to be a kid, and we saw him later

667
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:56.920
on when Alexander did start regularing the ship. Alexander did

668
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:01.119
have a lot of problems. He wasn't outsider, he didn't

669
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:07.119
know how to deal with other children, and he had

670
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.039
a lot of growing up to do, even on the ship.

671
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.639
So even either way, I think he had a lot

672
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.400
of growing up, and I think Wharf had a lot

673
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.320
of growing up he had to do, so I think

674
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:20.920
for this point, I think it was a good help

675
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:26.000
for for Wharf to do what he did. And by

676
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:27.880
the way, if you looked on the wall, just the

677
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.320
beginning of that scene, if he looked at the wall,

678
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.360
there were two crossoords.

679
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.559
All right, what do you think, David, are you with

680
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.880
dominions or against dominions?

681
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:48.199
What all you guys said, No, I'm just kidding but yeah,

682
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:50.320
I actually do agree with a lot with all you

683
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.760
guys said, and this one's actually a tough one to

684
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:59.320
be honest. Yeah, I don't know. Is he a third option?

685
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:08.639
I honestly think that. To me, I'm actually kind of

686
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:11.800
glad that it actually happened to where it happened, and

687
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.719
especially like going to people who already knew, like what

688
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.679
you guys already mentioned that his human parents were going

689
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.599
to take care of him. And of course I can't

690
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.679
remember if in that episode if he had acted parents

691
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:29.679
before he's had his kid go there or whatnot, But

692
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.320
you know, it's just something that I had in mind mind.

693
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.960
Yeah, he says in that scene, I've talked to my parents.

694
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.239
And oh, okay, then yeah, I mean, to be honest,

695
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.519
I'm I'm kind of a with the minions on it

696
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.280
when I'm glad that he got a good home and

697
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:48.719
place to stay safe and at least it's not a

698
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:53.119
romulant orphanage or something, you know. But to me, I

699
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.840
think I think dominions were correct on this one.

700
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:59.320
So yeah, all right, well that that brings it back

701
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.679
to me and I echo here, But that's okay because

702
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:04.519
I can edit that out when we put it out

703
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:06.800
to the public, so they won't get to hear this echo.

704
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.320
But I think this is an example of TNG's rigidy

705
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:19.480
and Rick Berman's impact, because if this was any other show,

706
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:24.280
like Voyager, for instance, then I think Alexander would have stayed.

707
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.400
And we've seen that that can work, and we've seen

708
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.920
them ad crew like each Eb for instance, so I

709
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.800
think that he should have stayed. I think if he stayed,

710
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.679
a lot of Alexander's future problems would have been resolved,

711
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:41.760
because we see him come back later. He has a

712
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:45.480
hard time dealing with Klingons because he's not doing things

713
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.440
the Klingon way. He wants to be a lawyer or something,

714
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:56.079
if I remember correctly, and Kim Tar, which is Alexander

715
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.719
from the future, comes back and tries to talk young

716
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:03.840
al Alexander into becoming a Klingon warrior. Later on on

717
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:06.599
Deep Space nine, he comes back as a Klingon warrior,

718
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.719
but he's not the best warrior. It's just not his thing.

719
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.119
So I think he should have stayed on the ship

720
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.599
with Wharf. I think we would have had like a

721
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.920
knog Jake thing from Deep Space nine. I think it

722
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.239
could have worked out really well, and I think Wharf

723
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:26.360
was a bit of a coward for sending him away.

724
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.519
So I'm not with the minions on this one. And uh,

725
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:35.639
that's all I gotta say. All Right, so we're gonna

726
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:40.039
be talking about Star Child from the Neutral Zone studios

727
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.760
and Ray TESSI roll it, David?

728
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.119
What are you doing nothing?

729
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:32.519
Mom?

730
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:34.239
Are you monitoring Dad?

731
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:34.800
Again?

732
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:36.880
I just wanted to see what sort of shift were on.

733
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.679
Besides, this new unit is supposed.

734
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:40.360
To be revolutionary.

735
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:42.599
What makes you think it's revolutionary?

736
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.119
The end grammar Ray is more sophisticated and balanced, and

737
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.280
extra support was added to keep it focused.

738
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:48.639
And it's using the.

739
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:49.639
New Lkarst matrix.

740
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:54.840
Sorry, I asked, do I use your diversionary tactics on us?

741
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:57.000
Besides, don't you have homework to do?

742
00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:58.440
Mom?

743
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:00.400
No, that will take me no time.

744
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.599
Besides, how many kids get to experience what I have

745
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.039
in the past few weeks.

746
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.800
Well, that's true, You're very fortunate, sweetie.

747
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:11.960
I think Dad might need my help testing the new

748
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.840
M six wrote a paper on it, you know.

749
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.519
With my help the graphics.

750
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.719
Look, we can't all be geniuses like you.

751
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:26.280
Besides, I remember you contacted the academy six months ago and.

752
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.960
You still haven't heard back. I know, but they will.

753
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:30.920
I bet they want girls.

754
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:32.960
Apologize.

755
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:39.840
I'm sorry, Kat, I really appreciated your help.

756
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:42.639
If you want me, I'll be in the rec room.

757
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:44.480
Kat you come back here.

758
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:53.679
Really, she's your older sister and in your shadow. Yeah,

759
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:55.360
you're right, mommy, You never know what you might find

760
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:55.760
out here.

761
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:03.960
Confirming Captain, we're approaching a neutral zone area KG five

762
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:04.559
one six.

763
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:09.199
The M six unit is performing smoothly as expected. I'm

764
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.599
sure Starfleet will be pleased. Yes, I'm sure.

765
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:13.840
Now that we've had a chance to stretch our legs,

766
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:15.880
let's move on to the next assignment.

767
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.079
Captain M six is picking up a distress call from

768
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.239
the edge of the neutral zone audio only.

769
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:32.440
Let's hear it.

770
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.800
Channel M six has already opened a channel.

771
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:41.639
This is a starship Republic.

772
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:43.719
Your signal is breaking up.

773
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.519
Can you send us your coordinates?

774
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:46.239
Repeat?

775
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.320
This is the starship Republic.

776
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.000
Just inside the neutral zone and drifting.

777
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.280
M six d un astral.

778
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:04.800
Subject is last three passenger transporter operated by Merchant Marines.

779
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.679
Three hundred passengers grew.

780
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.960
Of seventeen DM.

781
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:12.239
M six has plotted an intercept course.

782
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:14.440
Let's hope this unit knows what it's doing.

783
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.079
May I remind Captain that if the starship enters the zone, we.

784
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.199
Really well aware of the consequences.

785
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.760
Mister Hi, Sir M.

786
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:24.360
Six is initiating work drive.

787
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:26.239
We have five minutes to intercept.

788
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.960
It's keeping us on our side of the zone, right

789
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:30.559
on the edge.

790
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.199
Captain, Transport to rooms, stand by to beama board survivors.

791
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.360
Captain, I've lost the signal.

792
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.559
Report We're called an attractor beam unknown ship.

793
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.760
Captain, we're being scanned. Reports coming in.

794
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.360
We're being boarded and engineering and the invaders are taking captives.

795
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:53.039
All had.

796
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:02.800
Secured Engineering with the bridge and next one.

797
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:07.360
Hi, get out of here.

798
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:08.880
Now they're coming this way.

799
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.320
No, you're a straight I have to find Katie. Just

800
00:47:12.360 --> 00:48:31.800
stay here. Access denied and your AVALID password access denied.

801
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.320
Your AVALID password password.

802
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:40.320
Access granted.

803
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:47.039
No crew all other ships.

804
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.480
Okay, let's see what this new unit can do.

805
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.920
I'm six, I'm sick.

806
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.280
So what was the last heading at the attacking vessel.

807
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:05.440
The vessel is still in close proximity, appears to be

808
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:11.079
closed bearing in distance bearing two mark six distance one

809
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:13.079
hundred and three kilometers and six.

810
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.360
I'm heading to the transport room, prepared to being.

811
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.440
To these co ordinates advise a different strategy.

812
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.840
I'm sure you would comply with my orders.

813
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:32.519
Affirmative M six.

814
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:47.320
Energize Adira.

815
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:48.760
How did you?

816
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:54.239
Of course, Luna and I see you came prepared. Good girl.

817
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:55.880
Where's Katy?

818
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.159
I thought she was with you. I was looking for

819
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.840
but I couldn't find her and I got abducted. All right,

820
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:03.400
I'll find her. I have to ask, is there anyone

821
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:04.360
left on board the ship?

822
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:04.800
Six?

823
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:05.639
Is still on board?

824
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.280
Okay, I'll take it from here. I'm six.

825
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:10.960
Chew to bean back, keep the ship on red alert,

826
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.679
and prime the engines for a quick escape.

827
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:18.239
I'll be back soon. Way to go, kiddo. Get back

828
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:19.280
to the ship and get a ready.

829
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:32.079
Be careful, dad, what are you doing? DoD be me

830
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.519
back here for a reason. He knows that someone needs

831
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.079
to physically be here to accept the computer's requests for

832
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:38.199
M six to take control.

833
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:43.519
There done.

834
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.360
If Dad was successful, we should see him in a moment.

835
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:54.920
Dead.

836
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:03.920
I'm six and simulation committer end right, well done.

837
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:06.400
Report to my office in fifteen minutes.

838
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:26.039
Come in, have seat, well, younger lady, how do you

839
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:27.199
feel about your performance?

840
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:29.599
Fine?

841
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:30.280
Sir?

842
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:33.199
Fine? Is that all you have to say?

843
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:38.280
I'm proud of myself, Sir. I've worked very hard to

844
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:41.440
get here and did the best that I could, and

845
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:42.480
you certainly did.

846
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.599
I've heard a lot about you, the little prodigy that

847
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.840
the Federation is raving about. Well they were right, and

848
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:56.639
your courageous demeanor is giving you away. I'm here to

849
00:51:56.679 --> 00:52:07.639
give you a special commendation and an assignment. Congratulations, young lady,

850
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.679
you are now officially the youngest cadet to ever enter

851
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:16.599
Starfleet and only the second to pass the kobyashim Ma rout.

852
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:45.880
Well done, Adira, well done.

853
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:38.519
All right, guys. So before we get started, I just

854
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:43.039
want to clarify for you, guys. Fan films are produced

855
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:47.880
entirely by fans and there's no money. They go on

856
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:53.079
and to raise money for the special effects and the uniforms, everything.

857
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:58.000
So we're not comparing this to TNG or DS nine.

858
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:00.320
We just want to take a look at this for

859
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.280
what it is and you know, be fair about it. So, Eric,

860
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.679
what'd you think when you think about ray Tesse's Tales

861
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:10.800
from the Neutral Zone? Star Child?

862
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.360
You know what, Jim, We've reviewed a lot of fan

863
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.920
films over the years, and honestly, this one was one

864
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.000
of my Favorites. I just found this to be absolutely delightful.

865
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.119
I thought the story was really really good. I mean,

866
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.639
the fact that it's kind of about a kid just

867
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:33.800
kind of draws me right into it, probably because I'm

868
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:37.000
a dad, but it just makes me even more interested

869
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.519
in the story right away. It's got the classic Star

870
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.079
Trek thing of it being sort of a rescue mission

871
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:45.679
where they get a distress call and they have to

872
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:51.079
respond to it. Having been to taykonder Ruga, New York

873
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:55.119
and been on the set that they are using right now,

874
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.079
it's kind of familiar to me, so it feels very

875
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:01.280
special in that way. And there's lots of great references.

876
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.920
I mean, we've got apparently the next generation of the

877
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.800
M five computer here being used, which doesn't have the

878
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:12.280
personality problems that the five had. She mentioned something about

879
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.760
an el Car's matrix, so that kind of gives a

880
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:20.320
little bit of flip service to next generation Michael Lukuda's

881
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:24.639
creations there. You know, there are some moments where she

882
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:26.960
like guesses the password on the first try and that

883
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.199
sort of stuff that just I think are there to

884
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:34.400
show you how brilliant she is. But I just thought

885
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.440
it was fantastic that the acting in particular. There were

886
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.159
a couple of characters that were a little cardboard, but

887
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:44.400
the kid and most of the brass that we see

888
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:48.320
in this episode are just really on point. I thought

889
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:52.920
the main actress that played the kid here, Adira, was fantastic.

890
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:57.800
Her facial expressions were great, her delivery was great. I

891
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:03.519
have literally no acting notes for her, so so yeah,

892
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:07.199
in the end, I just found this absolutely delightful. It

893
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.880
touched my heart and I thought it was really really

894
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:12.800
fun to watch. This is I think the fourth or

895
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.519
fifth time I've literally I watched it like three or

896
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.760
four times before the podcast because I was just like,

897
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:20.039
that was so good, and it's ten minutes long, I'm

898
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:25.719
gonna watch it again. So yeah, fantastic. We're scoring things.

899
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:29.559
I absolutely would give this fan film a nine for sure.

900
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:32.800
This was great, all right, A nine from Eric?

901
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:34.239
How about you, Charles?

902
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.920
Okay, let's see that this one. Yes, I'm coming in.

903
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:47.599
Had to get my mic undone and somebody sat there

904
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:50.039
and said, Okay, let's do scores, which means I had

905
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:56.360
to grab my score sheet, and my score sheet didn't

906
00:55:56.400 --> 00:56:02.440
want to say the elite. This is definitely a good

907
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:12.239
example of a good staging for a fan film. The

908
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:17.079
one thing with that specific studio is that the everything

909
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:21.599
is suck so authentic. When they were in the room,

910
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:29.280
it's like, okay, that reminds me of Kirk's quarters when

911
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:35.639
they're in Now. It's interesting that onboard ship Chigan monitor

912
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.639
what's actually going on the bridge. I've never seen nobody

913
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:40.679
actually sit there and monitor what's going on in the

914
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:49.559
bridge from a quarters. But it's an interesting idea, and

915
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:54.519
I like how we kind of Okay, something's going on

916
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:59.119
here is not making sense, and I'm looking at this

917
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:06.960
and seeing how he ends and and simulations end simulation

918
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:10.599
what they do put her through some some sort of

919
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.840
kobyashi Maru and the admiral sat there and said, that's

920
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:21.039
exactly what they did. It's like, oh, remind me of

921
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:24.440
the trials Wesley went through trying to get in the academy,

922
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:31.960
and that you put future guys, asked you some interesting

923
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.599
simulations to see what's happened, what they what they put

924
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:40.320
them under pressure and see what happens. See if somebody cracked,

925
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:45.199
or see if somebody sit there and shows nerves to

926
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.920
be able to accomplish their task. And that young lady

927
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:56.480
did exactly that, and definitely they've been monitoring her for

928
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:01.280
future crew member player. That is gonna be an interesting

929
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:06.480
cadet to show up. Ah, I think I agree with Eric,

930
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:08.199
and I will give it a nine myself.

931
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.079
All Right, we got a nine from Eric, we got

932
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:17.280
a nine from Charles. I'll jump in here next. I'm

933
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:20.760
gonna go with a nine as well. This episode reminded

934
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.639
me of the Short Treks episode Ask Not if you

935
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:27.360
guys remember, that's where Captain Pike is on the Enterprise.

936
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:31.559
He has an engineer come aboard and puts her through

937
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.880
a very similar test. And I really enjoyed that Short

938
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.880
Treks episode, and this one reminded me an awful lot

939
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:41.880
like that. I really enjoyed it. As Eric said, I

940
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.920
thought the little the Girl was awesome. I thought the

941
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:51.719
sets were incredible, the sound effects were great, the family

942
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:56.760
was believable, especially the two girls arguing. Yeah. I just

943
00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:58.840
I can't find any flaw with this one. I thought

944
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.440
Ray test he did a great job, wrote a great story,

945
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.599
It was engaging, it was fun to watch. It moved

946
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.880
at a good pace, and I enjoyed it. So I'm

947
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:10.840
going to give it a nine and I'm going to

948
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:12.400
pass the mic over to Paul.

949
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:19.159
Yeah, exchle Jim. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, we've seen

950
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.840
a few fan films on the show before. I haven't

951
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.400
seen too many of them in my outside experience, so

952
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:28.239
but I like the feelthy involved, right. I've thought it

953
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.960
really did a good job of being shot and having

954
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.119
the same look as a as an old school original

955
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.239
series episode, which is great. You know, they used the

956
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:41.840
same music, same score, right, same sound effects, lighting, everything

957
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:42.639
like that to make it look.

958
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.320
And yeah, in fact, Paul, it's a mixture of original

959
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:52.039
soundtrack stuff and George Dunning does some original stuff in

960
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:54.639
this as well, so it's it's a mixture of Alexander

961
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:58.320
Courage's soundtrack as well as George Dunning's new stuff.

962
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:02.360
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it seemed to flow together pretty well.

963
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.599
I couldn't. I did only recognize stuff from uh, you know,

964
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:10.280
from familiar themes, I guess so, but but no, I

965
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.000
thought it was good. It's it's very short, right, you know,

966
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.159
it's very short, and so we're used to like four acts,

967
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:17.800
structure and everything for this, so it's interesting and uh

968
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.000
uh I thought I agree with you guys that the

969
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.039
lead actress who played the main character idea. I think

970
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:26.599
it is right. It was was you know, did a

971
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:30.320
really good job, really solid, authentic line readings. Doesn't seem

972
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.000
like she's uncomfortable, especially in that first scene right in

973
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.679
the quarter. She's very natural and in the moment, and

974
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:42.199
which is difficult to do, you know. And I think

975
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.360
that for me, if there was anything that I thought

976
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:45.920
could be maybe a little bit whenever some of the

977
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.800
I was a little unclear at points in terms of

978
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:52.599
establishing things like with the writing, right, like where exactly

979
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:57.119
are we? Who are the relationships, who's the dad, what's

980
01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:59.159
the mission. It's just you know, you have to kind of,

981
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.000
you know, fill in quite a bit on there. But

982
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:05.119
I still think overall it was a very good effort, right,

983
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:12.199
nicely done, you know, you know, pretty clear. Yeah, I'm

984
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:16.000
just you know, it's a short film. I think probably

985
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:18.480
what it was is that they originally wrote something longer

986
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:20.360
and then edited it down a little bit, and maybe

987
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.000
some of the things I was a little unclear on

988
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.639
were probably just with editing and stuff like that. But

989
01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:26.800
I think a great effort. Really nice to see people

990
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:32.079
exploring their enthusiasm for Star Trek by doing something creative, right,

991
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:34.440
So I agree with you, guys, I think it was

992
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:37.039
really good. I'd probably just I think an eight sounds

993
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:38.760
like a good score for me. I think would be

994
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:42.760
what I would say, pretty good. But yeah, but good work.

995
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.039
I'd be curious to see what else they've done.

996
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:48.159
All right, Yeah, And just to remind folks real quick,

997
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.119
Jim before we move to the next person, that so

998
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:54.800
fan films can only be fifteen minutes long, max, and

999
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:57.679
I have to agree with Paul. I think like they

1000
01:01:57.679 --> 01:01:59.639
could have it was only like ten minutes longer ten

1001
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.159
minutes thirty seconds, so they could have taken like one

1002
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:06.559
or two extra minutes to establish some of these character connections.

1003
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:09.039
Is that a rule for like licensing or something.

1004
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:12.920
Yeah, it has to. Well, what it comes from is

1005
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.159
it comes from the Star Trek acts in our thing

1006
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.800
from years ago, where they produced an entire movie and

1007
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.159
they actually paid the actors to be in it, and

1008
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:27.159
then Paramount came after them, and so now the rules

1009
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:32.400
are that you can you can homage to Star Trek,

1010
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:36.480
but Paramount won't sue you if you keep it to

1011
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:42.239
less than fifteen minutes, and you don't use any established characters.

1012
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:44.840
So like Jordie LaForge could never show up in one

1013
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:46.599
of these fan films or that type of thing. They

1014
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:51.400
have to be all new characters. And they have established

1015
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:55.199
that they could actually use the set that's in Tykwon Conderoga,

1016
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.760
New York, which is a totally accurate to the show set.

1017
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.400
Which is nice because when these TS episodes come up,

1018
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:05.000
we actually get an authentic like it's literally recreated in

1019
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:08.360
exactly the same way from the original drawings of the

1020
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:12.400
original set. But you can't have you can't you can't

1021
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.000
be longer than fifteen minutes. And I think the idea

1022
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:18.800
of Paramount said that, Okay, we'll let you do it,

1023
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:20.679
but we'll only let you do it a little bit.

1024
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:23.920
And Avalon Studios has pushed that a little bit in

1025
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:29.559
that they create multiple movies that have a through line.

1026
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:35.159
So like we reviewed ghost Ship and was it Demons

1027
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:37.440
I think was the name of it, which was like

1028
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.639
kind of a two part thing, but then each one

1029
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.800
was less than fifteen minutes, so it was okay, yeah, anyway,

1030
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.239
that's what it is. So it's a it's a let's

1031
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.039
not get sued by Paramount but still have fun.

1032
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:51.199
This searge okay, awesome, yeh yeah, but real fun, right,

1033
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:52.559
I mean really fun to see.

1034
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:56.480
So just to clarify what Eric said, they can't. They

1035
01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:58.880
can be two parts, but they can't be more than

1036
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:03.440
fifteen minutes. So they can't make like ten episodes with

1037
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:07.920
these same characters. It's two and done. And also Ray

1038
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:16.679
Tessey runs the set down in Kingsland, Georgia, but there are.

1039
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:17.800
Two sets that are accurate.

1040
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:22.159
Right, So guys help me out with this. Okay, I

1041
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.000
just want to learn a little bit, right, because how

1042
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:25.880
did Star Trek Continues to get away with it? Right?

1043
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:29.119
Because they used all original characters from the original show

1044
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:31.559
and they're way longer than fifteen minutes.

1045
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:32.599
That was before Accent.

1046
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:37.320
Yeah, they look at first, Accinar came along and raised

1047
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.719
something like a million dollars or some ridiculous amount of

1048
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:48.320
money George and Nachelle and all actual actors from Star

1049
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:50.760
Trek to be in it, and I say, and Paramount

1050
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:54.159
looked at that as a business expenditure and said.

1051
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.159
No, So Continues came first before all this brew Haha, Okay,

1052
01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:57.519
got it.

1053
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.599
When we had Andy Bray on the show, they weren't

1054
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:04.239
getting paid to do that. They were all volunteer. So

1055
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:07.800
that's where that came from. All right, guess what David

1056
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:09.199
you got the caboose on this one.

1057
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:16.800
Who all right, So, yeah, I haven't really watched too

1058
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:20.239
many fan films except for a lot of the original

1059
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:29.280
George Came Nachelle, Michelle Nicholson, Nicholson and whatever her name is,

1060
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:30.400
chl Nicholas.

1061
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:30.599
There you go.

1062
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:39.760
Yeah, I I haven't done too many of the fan

1063
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:43.039
films so much, but I started getting into action a

1064
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:47.079
and now you guys were describing Yeah, action, I started

1065
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:49.119
doing that whole thing. But I never knew that it

1066
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:53.159
had to be less than fifteen minutes, which kind of sad,

1067
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.400
to be honest, because that really takes away a lot

1068
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:58.440
of the creativity in my opinion, for a lot of

1069
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:03.320
the different shows that they could do. But that being said,

1070
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:07.320
I do like this particular show. I do agree with

1071
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:11.320
you guys. You can really tell the excitement on her face,

1072
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.360
the main coacter in that show that she just was

1073
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:18.480
just so happy to be there, and it did bring

1074
01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:21.880
a lot to the watching of the film itself, and

1075
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:26.800
as as the other people acting, you know, decision of course,

1076
01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:30.360
Hollywood of you know movies, and this is just a

1077
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:32.480
fan film, so I'm not gonna really push for two together.

1078
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:35.760
But overall, it was enjoyable.

1079
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:37.679
It was short.

1080
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:39.519
You know, maybe it could have gone for a NEXTRA

1081
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:42.800
five minutes or show, but I don't know. It was interesting.

1082
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:50.199
Originally I was gonna give this number seven, but now

1083
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:53.039
the more I think about it, they put a lot

1084
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:55.880
of work into it, and I'm wondering how much money

1085
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.239
they've actually raised them sold. I tried looking it up online.

1086
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:02.920
I couldn't really find it. But but yeah, other than that,

1087
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.360
it's uh. I think I'm gonna have to wage it

1088
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:08.880
up a little bit and just go with a uh

1089
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:10.320
an eight.

1090
01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:14.199
Yeah, it was enjoying.

1091
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:16.719
Get josh Or went back on the show to talk

1092
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:19.159
about this one man. I mean, not that we need

1093
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:21.639
to do two shows on this star child, but when

1094
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:23.960
we had Joshua Irwin on the show, it was very

1095
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.639
cool to hear his perspective on being on like establishing

1096
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:32.840
the Avalon universe, which is this you know, entire universe

1097
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:35.840
of Star Trek fan films that these things fall under,

1098
01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:40.039
wherein you can have you know, next generation uniforms, you

1099
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:45.880
can have TOS uniforms, you can have Kelvin timeline uniforms,

1100
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:50.639
and the Avalon universe sort of brings all of Star

1101
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:53.559
Trek into one place in these little like fifteen minute

1102
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:57.599
or less episodes, so to speak. Like literally, you guys

1103
01:07:57.679 --> 01:07:59.559
on the podcast who are newer of the podcast, if

1104
01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:02.000
you haven't seen ghost Ship and Demons, you guys got

1105
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:04.079
to watch those because those are like some of the

1106
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:07.119
best fan films that this studio has produced right now,

1107
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:09.440
in my opinion.

1108
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:15.559
And Eric, I believe short tracks was Paramount's answer to this.

1109
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:18.840
We talked about it on the podcast years ago when

1110
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:22.359
they put out these restrictions. Paramount came out with these

1111
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:25.680
episodes called short tracks, and I think they were trying

1112
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.119
to show the people that you can make something quality

1113
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:31.800
less than fifteen minutes. And if you haven't seen any

1114
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:35.520
of the short treks, I recommend Children of Mars Calypso

1115
01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:37.640
is a good one. There's a lot of really good ones.

1116
01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:41.000
Check out the short treks. All right, guys, Well, that

1117
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:46.439
wraps up our conversation on Star Child. Excuse me, and

1118
01:08:46.520 --> 01:09:07.039
now it was time for our Star Trek.

1119
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:11.760
That was not a clemon.

1120
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:14.199
Song, okay, war if we don't want to hear it,

1121
01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:17.560
all right, we always start off our Star Trek birthdays

1122
01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:20.720
by remembering those members of our Star Trek family who,

1123
01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:24.479
sadly enough are no longer with us, and for that

1124
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:28.159
we turned to Eric take away to Mike, Eric.

1125
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:30.079
Yeah you got it, Jim.

1126
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.800
This week we're gonna start with actor Charles Lewis Napier.

1127
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:36.560
He was an actor and musician who played two great

1128
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:40.039
roles in Star Trek episodes which were made more than

1129
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:44.039
twenty five years apart. These were the roles of Adam

1130
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:46.920
in the TOS third season episode The Way to Eden

1131
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:51.119
and Denning in the Deep Space nine four season episode

1132
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:55.840
Little Green Men. Napier actually wrote and was featured in

1133
01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:59.560
performing the songs that were in the Way to Eden.

1134
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:03.960
I thought was really super cool. Throughout the seventies and eightians,

1135
01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:07.319
he of course was best known for playing edgy military

1136
01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:11.960
types and menacing bad guys. In fact, he was Murdoch,

1137
01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:16.880
the intelligence officer in Rambo First Blood Part two. He

1138
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:21.600
also played roles as Commander Gilmour in the Austin Powers movies,

1139
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:27.399
Tucker McElroy in The Blues Brothers, and Chrome Angel in

1140
01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:30.800
The Handle with Care. He had a great voice and

1141
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:34.800
lent his talents to a ton of animated series as well,

1142
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:40.560
like Johnny Quest, Hercules, Superman, the animated series, Bud slight Year,

1143
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:44.399
Star Command the Men in Black animated series The Simpsons.

1144
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:47.239
The list goes on and on and on, so check

1145
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:51.119
out his IMDb page. I'm not saying that the songs

1146
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:55.720
in this episode were amazing, but Charles Lewis Napier did

1147
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.000
actually perform them himself, and we really really respect him

1148
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:02.680
for that. So born in nineteen thirty six, we lost

1149
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:04.920
him back in twenty eleven at the age of seventy

1150
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:05.319
five years.

1151
01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:07.600
Our happy birth is about the episode where they go

1152
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:08.479
around saying.

1153
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:09.800
Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, Herbert.

1154
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:15.960
It is the episode, Jim, Yeah, it's the Herbert episode. Yeah,

1155
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:18.840
so there you go. He was the guy with the

1156
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.479
weird stuff on his forehead too. So happy birthday to

1157
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:25.479
Charles Napier. Happy birthday as well to Terry Lester, the

1158
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:29.960
actor who played Heron in The Voyager second season episode Maneuvers.

1159
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:33.800
Terry Lester began his acting career while in the Army,

1160
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:36.760
and upon completing his service, decided to move to Hollywood

1161
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:39.760
to pursue acting. He had no problem finding work with

1162
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.880
his acting, singing, and piano playing skills. After a few

1163
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:47.479
bit parts, he found a starring role in Arc two

1164
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:51.680
and was soon courted by the Young and the Restless.

1165
01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:55.920
That's right, he became a daytime soap opera star. He

1166
01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:59.720
eventually left Young and the Restless for Santa Barbara nineteen

1167
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:03.520
eighty four, and then eventually moved to New York to

1168
01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:07.119
take on a role with As the World Turns. He

1169
01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:10.000
would leave that show in nineteen ninety four, and unfortunately

1170
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.600
we lost him all the way back in two thousand

1171
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:15.720
and three at the young age of fifty three years old.

1172
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:20.319
Happy birthday to Terry Lester. Happy birthday as well to

1173
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:24.720
Paul Sorvino. Woh A Titan as far as I'm concerned

1174
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:28.359
was an Italian American actor who played Nikolai Rosenko in

1175
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:34.039
the Next Generation seven season episode Homeward. Although originally aspiring

1176
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:38.920
to become Yes an opera singer, Sorvino built a solid

1177
01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:42.399
career in films and television from the nineteen seventies onwards.

1178
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:46.199
He's perhaps best recognized for his role as Paul Cicero

1179
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:50.840
in the nineteen ninety gangster drama film Goodfellas, one of

1180
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:55.000
the best. He performed in over one hundred theatrical movies

1181
01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:59.000
and over thirty TV movies throughout his career, including a

1182
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:04.359
dynamic and underappreciated portrayal of Henry Kissinger in nineteen ninety

1183
01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:10.159
five's movie Nixon. He suffered from severe asthma and worked

1184
01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:14.000
hard at mastering various breathing techniques to manage his illness.

1185
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:17.439
He wrote a best selling book entitled How to Become

1186
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:23.880
a Former Asthmatic and started the Sorvino Asthma Foundation based

1187
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:26.880
in New York City. He also was a pet guy.

1188
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:32.119
He founded dog Fellas That's right, the dog adoption organization

1189
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:35.600
in two thousand and two with his family, which was

1190
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:38.560
based in Manhattan and Pennsylvania. Dogfell I mean, is there

1191
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:43.399
a better name for a dog adoption place than Dogfellas?

1192
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:47.720
Paul Sorvino, we miss you. Man born in nineteen thirty nine,

1193
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:50.439
lost in twenty twenty two at the ripe old age

1194
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:53.760
of eighty three years old. Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday as

1195
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:56.960
well to Arlene Martel, the actress who played to Pring

1196
01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:01.720
in the TOS second season episode Am Time. In nineteen

1197
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.960
sixty five, she was among the candidates for the role

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01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:09.600
of doctor Elizabeth Dinner for the second Star Trek pilot

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where no man has gone before. However, she couldn't do

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01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:16.039
it because she couldn't stand wearing those Crazy Contacts that

1201
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:22.439
Selly Sally Kellerman. Sally Kellerman was eventually slated to wear.

1202
01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:26.039
Nearly two years later, she auditioned for Star Trek again,

1203
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:30.439
this time for the role of Sylvia in Kotspaw. Again,

1204
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:33.439
she didn't get cast because of the production staff had

1205
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:37.159
seen her as the ideal actress for topring in a

1206
01:14:37.239 --> 01:14:41.880
mook time. Forty years after her role in Star Trek,

1207
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:45.000
she appeared as a Vulcan priestess in the fan film

1208
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:48.199
star Trek of Gods and Men, which, if you speaking

1209
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:50.960
of fan films, if you haven't seen Of Gods and Men,

1210
01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:54.560
you absolutely need to watch that one. Of course, that

1211
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:58.000
was directed by friend of the show, Tim Russ. She

1212
01:14:58.079 --> 01:15:01.600
had myriad guest star roles on shows like The Twilight Zone,

1213
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:05.560
The Untouchables, Perry Mason, and Mission Impossible, and was also

1214
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:10.399
an animal rights activist with the organization Last Chance for

1215
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:14.880
Animals and actually hosted an HBO special on that topic.

1216
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:20.439
So Happy birthday to Arlene Martel born in nineteen thirty six,

1217
01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:26.159
lost on twelfth of August twenty fourteen. Happy birthday as

1218
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:29.920
well to Peter Mark Richmond lived to be ninety three

1219
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:33.199
years old. Of course, he played Ralph Offenhaus in the

1220
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:37.159
Next Generation first season episode The Neutral Zone. An amazingly

1221
01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:40.279
prolific actor, he was no stranger to science fiction, appearing

1222
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.279
in two episodes of The Outer Limits as well as

1223
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:47.199
The Twilight Zone's penultimate episode, The Fear. Throughout his career,

1224
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:52.359
Richmond alternated between nasty villains, stern authority figures, and stoic heroes,

1225
01:15:52.399 --> 01:15:57.239
and became one of TV's most often killed guys. No kidding,

1226
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:00.760
he died almost more than anybody else in appearing in

1227
01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:03.159
motion pictures such as Naked Gun two and a Half,

1228
01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:07.920
the comedy Dempsey, and Friday the Thirteenth Part eight. He

1229
01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:11.359
was amazing. Of course, He had more than one hundred

1230
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:16.600
television guest spots on in his career spanning five decades,

1231
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:22.800
including Chrissy Snow's father, a reverend on Three's Company. That's Right,

1232
01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:25.520
a reoccurring role for him. But he was a real

1233
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:29.800
renaissance man. He was a humanitarian. He was a painter

1234
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:33.640
who had seventeen successful one man exhibitions on the West

1235
01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:37.079
Coast and in New York. He wrote two novel novels

1236
01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:41.600
and several stage plays, of which his shows Four Faces,

1237
01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:45.159
and a medal for Murray were the most acclaimed. So

1238
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:48.479
this guy had talent literally coming out of his ears.

1239
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:52.840
Peter Mark Richmond lost back in twenty twenty one as

1240
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:56.439
at as I said ninety three years old, Happy birthday

1241
01:16:56.479 --> 01:17:01.119
to him. Happy birthday as well to Jay Robbinson, the

1242
01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:05.680
American actor who appeared as troyan Ambassador Petrie in the

1243
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:10.640
Coos third season episode alone of Troyus. Robinson's most well

1244
01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:14.039
known role was that, of course, as Colligula in nineteen

1245
01:17:14.119 --> 01:17:19.319
fifty three's The Robe, which he actually would reprise in

1246
01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:23.840
Demetrius and the Gladiators just the following year. In nineteen

1247
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:27.199
fifty five, he co starred in the historical drama The

1248
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:31.359
Virgin Queen, and after recovering from a short stint of

1249
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:36.119
drug addiction and a career ruining jail sentence, he returned

1250
01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:39.800
to acting on television in the late nineteen sixties. He

1251
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.680
appeared in movies like Woody Allen's Everything You Always Wanted

1252
01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:45.640
To Know About Sex, For Afraid to Ask in nineteen

1253
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:50.439
seventy two, Nightmare, Honeymoon from nineteen seventy three, Shampoo, The

1254
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:54.000
Sword and the Sorcerer, and Big Top Peewee in nineteen

1255
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:57.960
eighty eight, a number of television guest appearances and TV

1256
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:02.520
movies rounded out ja his career. Happy Birthday to Jay

1257
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:12.479
Robinson and next is Joseph Ruskin, of course. Born Joseph

1258
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:16.520
Richard Schlaffman, Joe Ruskin was an American actor who appeared

1259
01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:20.359
in four of the five live action Star Trek television

1260
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:24.359
series and in Star Trek Insurrection. Did You Know That?

1261
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.199
In tos He played the part of Gult in The

1262
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:30.880
Gamesters of Triskellion in DS nine, he played the klingon

1263
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:33.960
two mech in two episodes, The House of Cork and

1264
01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.199
Looking for Parmak and All the Wrong Places. In between

1265
01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:40.600
these episodes, he played a Cardassian informant in the episode

1266
01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:45.000
Improbable Cause. He was cast as a Sona officer in

1267
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:49.119
Star Trek Insurrection, appears in Star Trek Voyager in the

1268
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:52.520
episode Gravity, in which he played a Vulcan master, and

1269
01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:55.720
his final Star Trek appearance was in Star Trek Enterprise

1270
01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:59.880
as a Sullaban doctor in the pilot episode Broken Bow.

1271
01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:05.520
He worked on Star Trek video games, lent his voice

1272
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:09.960
to Master Sitan in Star Trek Hidden Evil in nineteen

1273
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:13.760
ninety nine, and had a couple of other cool roles

1274
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.720
like that in Star Trek. He had a long and

1275
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:19.680
distinguished career, appearing in television series as early as nineteen

1276
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:22.840
fifty nine, and made a career out of television guest

1277
01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:29.880
appearances and several television, television and film movies. In his

1278
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:34.199
later years, he had a reoccurring role as Alliance Master

1279
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:39.680
Elaine Christoph in jj Abrams series Alias. So, while not

1280
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:43.479
exactly Star Trek, a little bit Star Trek adjacent, I

1281
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:50.279
would say, so Happy birthday to Joe Ruskin. Yeah, Happy

1282
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:53.079
birthday to him. And last, but not least, on our list,

1283
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:58.520
a Titan of Star Trek. Michael George and Sarah was

1284
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:02.039
the Lebanese American actor best known to Star Trek fans

1285
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:05.840
for playing in the original series third season episode Day

1286
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:09.600
of the Dove, Deep Space nine second season episode Blood Oath,

1287
01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:14.439
Star Trek Voyagers third season episode flashback Back, and he

1288
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:18.720
later appeared as Javelle in DS nine's four season episode

1289
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:22.920
The Muse. As I said, He was a Lebanese born

1290
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:26.239
actor whose family was from a small village in what

1291
01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:30.760
was then the French Mandate for Syria and Lebanon. Later

1292
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:34.960
in nineteen twenty two, he married I Dream of Genie

1293
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:39.039
actress Barbara Eden from and was married to her from

1294
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:42.079
nineteen fifty eight through nineteen seventy four. It actually appeared

1295
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:46.359
on several episodes of that show himself. He was often

1296
01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:50.039
cast as brown skinned actors because that was kind of

1297
01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:52.199
how you did it back then, so played lots of

1298
01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:59.520
Native Americans and other actors of non white descent. He

1299
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:02.239
had men any other TV and movie appearances of note,

1300
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:05.439
including co starring with TS regular James Dewan in a

1301
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:08.600
nineteen sixty four episode of Voyage to the Bottom of

1302
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:13.399
the Sea. He played the villain Killer Kine in four

1303
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:17.039
episodes of the nineteen seventy nine sci fi TV series

1304
01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:20.720
Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth Century, and actually worked

1305
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:25.399
with Ricardo Montabon in three feature films. But where I

1306
01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:27.960
really got to know him other than his Star Trek

1307
01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:32.359
appearances were in his voiceovers. He worked as a voice

1308
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:37.760
in the DC Comics character DC Comics character Mister Freeze

1309
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:41.439
on Batman, the animated series. He voiced that character several

1310
01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:44.479
times from nineteen ninety two to two thousand and nine.

1311
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:48.119
So just go check out his IMDb page. It is

1312
01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:52.439
super impressive. Lots and lots of credits there. What a

1313
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:59.199
great actor, one of the three Masters that we see klingon,

1314
01:21:59.319 --> 01:22:01.720
Masters that we see on Star Trek. So just a

1315
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:04.159
really super cool actor born in nineteen twenty two. We

1316
01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:08.520
lost him back in twenty thirteen. Happy birthday to Michael,

1317
01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:12.079
George and Sarah. And that you guys does it for

1318
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:15.720
our remembrances this week. So I'm going to pass this

1319
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:18.960
flaming birthday candle onto.

1320
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:23.800
Charles Well, thank you, Eric, I got a shortlist on mine.

1321
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:30.239
Happy Birthday to Bill Irwin, American actor, clown and comedian

1322
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:34.960
who portrayed Sakal in Chartrek Discovery third season episode to

1323
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:39.840
Call That Hope Is You? Part two and the fourth

1324
01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:48.880
season episode Kobayashi Maru. Happy Birthday to Courtney Pendon, actress

1325
01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:52.800
who played Karen Ferris Star Trek Deep Space nine sixty

1326
01:22:52.840 --> 01:22:59.960
is an episode The Valiant and last time my List.

1327
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:06.039
Happy Birthday, Faith Sally, actress who played Serena Douglas and

1328
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:11.159
Star Trek Deep Space nine six and seventeen episode Statistical

1329
01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:17.760
Probabilities and Chrysalis, And I'll pass the candle over to Paul.

1330
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:22.880
Thank you, Charles. The birthday roller coaster keeps on rolling.

1331
01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:26.279
So first of all, let's say Happy birthday to Alicia Coppola,

1332
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:32.000
actress who portrayed Lieutenant Staddie in a Voyagers first season episode.

1333
01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:36.319
I believe it was the pilot caretaker. Very very cool.

1334
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:39.079
Not everybody you know continued on a Voyager there, but

1335
01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:42.600
awesome way to start things off being in the pilot right,

1336
01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:49.359
very cool. Happy birthday to the awesome legendary William Sadler.

1337
01:23:50.439 --> 01:23:54.560
Now we're honoring Bill Sadler for his portrayal of Luther

1338
01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:58.600
Sloan in Star Trek Deep Space nine six and seven

1339
01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:04.560
season episodes Inquisition, Extreme Measures and inter Arma and him

1340
01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:07.800
silent Leges And of course, if you don't know what

1341
01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:10.640
that means, and you're not a student of Latin, it

1342
01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:15.800
means in times of war, the laws fall silent. So

1343
01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:18.640
perhaps a phrase we should be aware of in the

1344
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:23.840
times we now find ourselves in. So a DS nine presence,

1345
01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:27.399
but an iconic actor. Man, he's just great. You could

1346
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:29.640
light a match off those cheekbones of this guy. And

1347
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.920
I'm telling you, out of control. One of the first

1348
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:35.920
things I ever saw him in was it was when

1349
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:38.359
they did the first Diehard sequel, Diehard Too. He's the

1350
01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:42.439
main antagonist, he's the main villain, super badass, right, and

1351
01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:47.520
just you know, lethal dude, just very much iconic. Was

1352
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:51.800
in a movie that people joke about, Bill and Ted's

1353
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:54.479
Bogus Journey, right, but he played Death where he was

1354
01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:57.520
riffing on like ingmar Bergmann like this note tomorrow. I mean,

1355
01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:01.760
it's just really it's quite an amazing performance. People tend

1356
01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:04.880
to dismiss those movies, but he's really amazing in that role.

1357
01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:07.640
And he's done a lot of Stephen King, Right. He

1358
01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:11.119
was in The Mist and had a really key part

1359
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:13.800
in The Shawshank Redemption, which I think you can, you know,

1360
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:16.640
feel like, you know, I did a pretty good day's

1361
01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:19.119
work if you were in The Shawshank Redemption, right. I mean,

1362
01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:26.600
he's just a very prolific actor. Very hard to not notice, right,

1363
01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:30.119
He's just he's just intense looking, and if he's in

1364
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.720
a scene, you're probably gonna be watching him the entire time.

1365
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:34.359
So I just think I'm a fan.

1366
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:37.600
I think Sloan is so such a great character and

1367
01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:39.319
he just completely nailed it.

1368
01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:43.239
Yeah, he's just awesome. Originally from Buffalo, New York, Jim

1369
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:46.680
just so you know, but but a terrific actor, just

1370
01:25:47.199 --> 01:25:50.760
charismatic as hell. If he's in it. You should watch it.

1371
01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:56.119
Really really amazing performer. So happy birthday, William Sadler. We

1372
01:25:56.439 --> 01:26:00.760
dig you here and man, how do you talk bills? Well,

1373
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:04.800
I think this next one might. It's tough because he's

1374
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:08.479
right there with him. Man, I mean, it is a

1375
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:13.720
treat to talk about the work of the great rob

1376
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:18.960
Ron Peerlman. Sorry, I'm like starstruck today. Ron Perlman is

1377
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:22.680
a gem. Now, okay, hard to tell underneath all that makeup,

1378
01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:27.439
but we in Star Trek acknowledge him for playing Riemond

1379
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:32.239
Viceroy right in Star Trek Nemesis. Right, But this is

1380
01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:35.039
a guy who's very comfortable being under a lot of

1381
01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:39.840
crazy makeup, right, I mean a lot of roles underneath makeup.

1382
01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:42.960
I don't know if you young whipper snappers remember it,

1383
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.279
but there was a TV show called Beauty and the

1384
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:47.800
Beast that for a while it was just like one

1385
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:50.720
of those shows that you think, oh it, maybe it'll

1386
01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:53.800
get a season, right or whatever, it'll you know, come

1387
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:56.319
and go. It was a phenomenal cult hit. It was

1388
01:26:56.359 --> 01:26:59.960
a TV show that just became a cult, a crazy

1389
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.560
is he cult hit? I mean, just really really ridiculously popular,

1390
01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:08.680
very very big with the great Linda Hamilton from you know,

1391
01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:12.399
Terminator fame, right, and he got a lot of following.

1392
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:17.319
It was very popular, the way like the Outlander series

1393
01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:20.279
is kind of romantically popular right now and has a

1394
01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:24.760
certain following to it that is kind of how Beauty

1395
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:26.520
and the Beast was it just I think it took

1396
01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:29.640
off in a way that nobody expected. But he is

1397
01:27:29.680 --> 01:27:33.159
a massive genre of veteran, right. He's been in an

1398
01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:40.039
alien movie, right in Alien Resurrection. He's done two huge

1399
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:45.239
phenomenal hell Boy pictures for Guerre Mola del Toro. He's

1400
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:49.000
just amazing. He's done so many good things in his career, right,

1401
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:54.159
really just a phenomenal character. And of course, you know

1402
01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:56.920
every single season of the Sons of Anarchy, which I

1403
01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:58.199
don't know if anyone else there is a Sons of

1404
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:01.560
Anarchy fan, but I sure am. As a biker uber

1405
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:04.800
Boss Clay Morrow on that show, he was great. He

1406
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:07.079
just got to do so many cool things as in

1407
01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:09.560
that playing that character. A lot of comedy, a lot

1408
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:14.680
of really great moral ambiguity and drama, a phenomenal role

1409
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:17.800
for a character. He just did everything and does a

1410
01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:21.840
ton of voiceover work and other character work as well,

1411
01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:24.439
so he's just again, it's just one of those guys

1412
01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:26.439
that if Ron Perlman's in it, you should probably be

1413
01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:29.600
watching it because he's He's pretty cool and very outspoken

1414
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:34.039
and social media too, does not shy away from where

1415
01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:37.279
he plants his flag. So I'm a big fan man.

1416
01:28:37.359 --> 01:28:39.520
I as one of those people. If I here, you

1417
01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:41.560
ever saw him an airport, I'd probably like knock him

1418
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:43.760
over because I'd be like so excited to meet him.

1419
01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:46.000
You know, he's just great. I always wish that he

1420
01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:48.119
would have gotten to do a third hell Boy movie

1421
01:28:48.279 --> 01:28:51.439
with Garymo del Toro. Un feel that, you know, that's

1422
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:55.159
a franchise that kind of got a little mismanaged, I

1423
01:28:55.239 --> 01:29:00.039
might say. But whenever Pearlman and Garama got together, it

1424
01:28:59.880 --> 01:29:04.399
was just a beast. They had such chemistry together. It

1425
01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:09.119
was like, you know, a de Niro Scorsese thing with

1426
01:29:09.239 --> 01:29:11.960
those two. Just amazing. Sorry, I could talk about Ron

1427
01:29:12.039 --> 01:29:14.960
Roman all day. I'm just a huge fan. Amazing dude.

1428
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:19.640
So happy birthday, mister Pearlman. We salute you, sir, And

1429
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:22.960
let's go back to again to old school original series

1430
01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:26.680
Michael Forrest about a ban actor who played Apollo, the

1431
01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:31.399
god Apollo in original series, second Sason episode who Mourns

1432
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:33.399
for Adonnas, And then we were just a couple of

1433
01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:36.680
minutes ago talking about Startrek Continues. Michael Forest came back

1434
01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:40.640
to kind of recreate that universe again in a really

1435
01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:43.840
cool episode of Star Trek Continues. So really neat that

1436
01:29:43.920 --> 01:29:47.560
he was brought back to do that. Really cool to

1437
01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:52.279
be able to carry on his legacy and keep Star

1438
01:29:52.319 --> 01:29:54.880
Trek going a lot of it. It's interesting that the

1439
01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:59.399
actors would choose to come back because they they recognized

1440
01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:03.239
the appeal and the lasting legacy of Star Treks. So

1441
01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:04.720
I think it was a cool move for him to

1442
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:08.840
come back and revisit that character that way. So a

1443
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:12.359
lot of really interesting, cool people having birthdays in the

1444
01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:16.000
month of April, and we will now pass the flaming

1445
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:20.880
Promethean birthday candle over to the man with the strange

1446
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:22.840
blob on his shoulder, Uncle Jim.

1447
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:26.880
Why, thank you so much, Paul. This is George. I

1448
01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:29.720
will love him and squeeze him and call him George.

1449
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:35.439
He's my glomy good protects me from all those evil tribles.

1450
01:30:37.439 --> 01:30:40.479
I only have two birthdays. First, we want to say

1451
01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:45.079
happy birthday to the awesome Michelle Scarballe. She's the actress

1452
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:49.199
who played Lieutenant Junior Grade Jenna Desora and the TNG

1453
01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:54.720
fourth season episode in Theory. But I loved her as

1454
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:59.000
Susan Francisco and the Alienation TV series, and there she

1455
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:01.399
is at the bottom right hand corner. I think that

1456
01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:04.239
show has overlooked a lot of people forgot about it,

1457
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:10.479
but it was incredible and she played George Francisco's wife.

1458
01:31:10.840 --> 01:31:12.600
If you haven't watched it, or you haven't seen it

1459
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:15.359
in a while, go and check it out. She's incredible.

1460
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:19.319
And last on my list, we want to say happy

1461
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:24.680
birthday to Eric Avari. He's the actor who appeared as

1462
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:31.199
by Jack and the TNG fifth season episode Unification Part One.

1463
01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:38.159
That's the weasily whiny, spineless clingon who would not allow

1464
01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:43.399
Picard to talk to Gowron and all he wanted it

1465
01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:47.079
was a cloak Klingon ship so that they could go

1466
01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:51.520
to Romulus, and finally by Jack comes back and gives

1467
01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:55.000
him a ship. That's the Klingon that he played. But

1468
01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:58.279
he also played Yarka in the DS nine third season

1469
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:03.760
episode Destiny and Jammine in the enterprise first season episode

1470
01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:07.600
Tara Nova. But I think a lot of fans know

1471
01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:12.239
him from Stargate or maybe you know him from the Mummy.

1472
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:17.760
Both excellent performances by him.

1473
01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:18.239
And Jim, is it just me or do I see

1474
01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:21.640
another Star Trek actor in that Mummy picture picture?

1475
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:22.199
Right now?

1476
01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:24.319
That's the Silver Fox himself.

1477
01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:26.640
It's the Silver Fox himself.

1478
01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:28.560
He's one of my favorites, like.

1479
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:34.319
The Silver Fox himself. And that, my friends, wraps up

1480
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:38.359
our Star Trek birthdays, and now it's time to move

1481
01:32:38.439 --> 01:32:41.239
on to some Star Trek.

1482
01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:53.720
New Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secure channel.

1483
01:32:54.640 --> 01:33:02.359
Incoming transmission enter authorization code, command codes very define parameters

1484
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:07.359
of program level nine authorization require specifying parameters.

1485
01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:10.800
Transfer updata is complete.

1486
01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:13.960
A black alert, A black alert.

1487
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.880
All right, Eric, you've got our first story of the evening.

1488
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:22.439
All right, Jim, it seems that we cannot possibly get

1489
01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:26.760
away from talking about Katy Perry this week, but we're

1490
01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:32.279
doing it in the context of our segment. William Shatner says, what.

1491
01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:34.239
That's right.

1492
01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:39.199
William Shatner gives intense warnings ahead of Katy Perry and

1493
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:43.840
Gail King's space flight. William Shatner is one of the

1494
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.800
rare celebrities who can actually say that they were in space.

1495
01:33:47.199 --> 01:33:49.520
Usually you leave that kind of work to the professionals,

1496
01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:53.199
but he was given that rare opportunity becoming the oldest

1497
01:33:53.239 --> 01:33:57.840
person to travel in space. Now Gail King and Katy

1498
01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:03.520
Perry get their opportunities with Jeff Bezos's fiance Lauren Sanchez

1499
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:08.000
as the first crew of all women to head into space. However,

1500
01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:11.479
Shatner has some stark advice before they head out into

1501
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:13.920
the great unknown. Of course, now they've done it, but

1502
01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:16.960
we're reading this later. Recently, the Star Trek actor sat

1503
01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:21.119
down with Gail King on CBS Mornings. There she ponders

1504
01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:24.359
what it must have felt like for him, specifically saying

1505
01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:30.159
he looked so euphoric. William gives a little insight but

1506
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:34.000
gets incredibly heavy in the process. You're gonna feel at Gail,

1507
01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:37.119
and I don't want you to wear that dress because

1508
01:34:37.119 --> 01:34:42.880
it's the color of blood, he advised her. We don't

1509
01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:46.560
want any blood, Gail. Then he ramps up the intensity

1510
01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:51.439
even further, scarring the bleep out of Gail in the process.

1511
01:34:52.039 --> 01:34:55.000
You're lying there waiting to take off. That's the most

1512
01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:57.359
exciting moment of all because the g forces that are

1513
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:00.199
going to be on you. Shatner says, you're going to

1514
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:02.680
think I'm going to die, but you're not going.

1515
01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:03.319
To die, Gail.

1516
01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:07.840
You're on an adventure. Gail King desperately tries to sway

1517
01:35:07.880 --> 01:35:11.880
the conversation from the prospect of dying. She questions the

1518
01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:15.680
actor on if there were any nerves during the experience.

1519
01:35:16.439 --> 01:35:21.000
It's here where he gives the best, plainest advice. The

1520
01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:27.119
nitrogen going up the geez, that's frightening, girl, But embrace

1521
01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:31.279
the adventure. Embrace it. Shatner says, you're on an exciting

1522
01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:33.960
trip that you'll never do again. You're going to live

1523
01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:39.359
through it and you'll be fine. Just mesmerize yourself. Shatner adds,

1524
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:42.319
it's the adventure of a lifetime and you're going to

1525
01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:45.640
see the world like nobody. Only six hundred people have

1526
01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:51.079
seen it, and you are going to see it. I'm sorry, guys,

1527
01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:53.960
but that is one of the best. Shatner says, what

1528
01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:57.399
that I have read over the course of the past

1529
01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:01.960
seven or eight years. I lust I don't want to

1530
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:08.960
see any blood. So fantastic. It's all in the news

1531
01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:11.600
right now. There's all sorts of really funny like Katy

1532
01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:15.960
Perry memes and whatnot going on right now. Let's just

1533
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:20.039
be clear. Only the ultra rich can do this stuff,

1534
01:36:20.159 --> 01:36:24.840
and you and I are not those people. So you know,

1535
01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:29.439
take that for what it is. So Paul take us

1536
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:31.920
in a different direction, won't you, happily?

1537
01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:35.399
Yeah, I'm one more billionaire. I think I'm gonna start

1538
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:39.720
throwing up, But you know, hey, let's talk about toys, okay,

1539
01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:42.039
because that's a safe spot to hang your hat for

1540
01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:46.039
a while. Toy company Hia Toys It takes flight with

1541
01:36:46.359 --> 01:36:50.279
a two thousand and nine edition of the Star Trek

1542
01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:55.560
iconic USS Starship Enterprise, currently being displayed on screen for

1543
01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:59.760
the two Patreon members who can see it. Hiat Toys

1544
01:36:59.840 --> 01:37:02.079
is turning to the Final Frontier once again, as they

1545
01:37:02.119 --> 01:37:05.039
returned to the rebooted two thousand and nine Star Trek universe.

1546
01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:08.760
We've seen a variety of one eighteen scale and six

1547
01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:12.640
inch figures arrive from the line, capturing the Enterprise crew.

1548
01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:17.159
Well now looks like the USS Enterprise itself from Star Trek.

1549
01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:20.239
The two thousand and nine motion picture jj Abrims Version

1550
01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:23.680
Right is coming to life with Hyatoi's first release under

1551
01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:28.840
the Replica Art series. This sleek, modern reimagining of the

1552
01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:33.079
legendary Starship blends classic design elements with the futuristic aesthetic

1553
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:39.000
and great big silicon like NAS cells to to delay you.

1554
01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:51.159
All right, let's steal what the size of those cells

1555
01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:53.760
are those big missiles? Do you remember what was the

1556
01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:56.319
reaction when they first unveiled that thing. It was like

1557
01:37:57.039 --> 01:37:59.159
people were just oh my god.

1558
01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:02.039
I mean there is precedent for that rightly in that

1559
01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:04.960
like Gene ron Berry talked about like how the engines

1560
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:08.479
on this, on a ship that goes faster than lights

1561
01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:09.840
should be like the size of the ship.

1562
01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:12.600
Oh, I think I think that I was fine with it,

1563
01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:14.920
but boy, people flip their lids like they didn't know

1564
01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:17.520
there was no And now you can't not see, you

1565
01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:19.479
can't not look at them because it's like so.

1566
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:21.760
Pronounced.

1567
01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:27.439
Let's just say, okay. Constructed in the alternate Kelvin timeline,

1568
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:31.479
this Constitution class vessel is larger and more powerful than

1569
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:34.960
it's Prime Universe counterpart. Well maybe I don't know. We'll

1570
01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:38.279
see the US Centerprise light up Starship will come in

1571
01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:42.039
at fifteen inches in length, and we'll have is it

1572
01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:45.119
size everything? Is that? Is that really? Where we are

1573
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:47.960
fifteen inches in length? That will have multiple lights featured

1574
01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.680
throughout the ship. While this does not scale perfectly to

1575
01:38:50.760 --> 01:38:52.880
highest other two thousand and nine star Trek, it will

1576
01:38:52.880 --> 01:38:56.359
be a perfect addition to your collection. The replica release

1577
01:38:56.520 --> 01:38:59.960
replica art release will be a previews exclusive for order,

1578
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:02.960
well kind of for yours. Will be offered online at

1579
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:04.640
one hundred and forty nine dollars nine nine per cents

1580
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.319
into your local comic book stores. You can find this

1581
01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:12.800
in a number of different e retailers, notably Big Bad

1582
01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:15.720
Toy Store. I just mentioned them because they're rather ubiquitous

1583
01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:20.079
and they do fulfill their orders very reliably. But you

1584
01:39:20.119 --> 01:39:23.159
can pre order it there with a minimal fifteen dollars

1585
01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:27.359
non refundable deposit to you know, and you're going to

1586
01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:30.039
see this, since we're talking toys, friends, You're going to

1587
01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:37.039
see this everywhere now as an asterisk excludes tariff surcharges, okay,

1588
01:39:37.079 --> 01:39:39.000
and you better get used to it, because if you

1589
01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:40.720
think one hundred and fifty dollars is a lot of

1590
01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:43.600
money for a starship enterprise, you are going to be

1591
01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:48.039
probably paying an additional whopper of a charge as well,

1592
01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:51.159
because this is just the universe we're in as toy

1593
01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:53.039
collectors now, and you're going to start seeing this happening

1594
01:39:53.119 --> 01:39:57.239
way more often. I'm very intrigued with High toys. I

1595
01:39:57.319 --> 01:40:00.600
have yet to see a single one of their action

1596
01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:05.560
figures from the Star Trek line in the wild. I

1597
01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:08.039
have a bunch of higher figures. I've got all of

1598
01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:11.439
their RoboCop series that they did, which are excellent, a

1599
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:13.880
bunch of Predator and alien figures that did at a

1600
01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:17.159
great job on, really really good. But they've been talking

1601
01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:21.439
about venturing into these other licenses like Rambo and Star Trek,

1602
01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:25.640
but I never see their product anywhere, so it's kind

1603
01:40:25.640 --> 01:40:27.880
of baffling. I wish them well. I hope they do good,

1604
01:40:27.880 --> 01:40:31.159
but it's getting real competitive out there in the Star

1605
01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:34.479
Trek Action figure universe, right. We've got a lot of

1606
01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:38.399
new players coming in there, like Master Replicas and the

1607
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:42.199
cell So, you know, you got to work out this

1608
01:40:42.239 --> 01:40:47.920
distribution thing. Friends and are somehow work that social media

1609
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:50.600
thing a little bit more sharper, because I'm still not

1610
01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:53.800
really sure I believe they exist, So I'd love to

1611
01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:55.920
see some Maybe you need to send somebody on the

1612
01:40:55.960 --> 01:40:58.239
show send us some samples so we can check it

1613
01:40:58.239 --> 01:41:01.720
out and see what's going on. Anyhow. One hundred and

1614
01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:04.520
fifty smackers will get you this sucker. However, be advised

1615
01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:09.800
that the estimated arrival date is June twenty twenty six,

1616
01:41:11.279 --> 01:41:14.880
so this is more than a year in the future, pals.

1617
01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:18.479
So this is you know, hopefully comes to pass, you know,

1618
01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:23.000
caveat emptor and do what you will. I'm speaking right now.

1619
01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:27.399
The word is currently twenty four percent tariffs on Japan.

1620
01:41:28.439 --> 01:41:32.520
That could go anywhere within the next three hours or so.

1621
01:41:32.960 --> 01:41:36.439
Yeah, it's it's it's it's tough. And then postal rates

1622
01:41:36.479 --> 01:41:38.880
and I'm seeing that some come right now. There are

1623
01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:43.159
some countries I can't remember which one it is. It's

1624
01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:45.760
not Taiwan. What's the other.

1625
01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:49.159
One, Well, China is at like one hundred and twenty

1626
01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:50.760
four percent or some crazy.

1627
01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:52.840
Do I think of though, Apart from China, it's not Taiwan,

1628
01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:58.600
but the other no smaller Singapore. I think it might

1629
01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:01.039
be Hong Kong. I can't remember. It might be Hong

1630
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:04.000
Kong Chriles. But but they recently they're not shipping to

1631
01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:09.199
the America anymore, to the America, to the United States America.

1632
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:11.800
You know, they're not They're done. They're like, hey, right now,

1633
01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:14.520
we're not shipping to you. Sorry, you know, so it's

1634
01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:16.640
it's it's crazy. So it's like I've got a bunch

1635
01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:18.680
of pre orders out for stuff, and like when they

1636
01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:21.520
come in, I'm like, okay, glad to have you. I

1637
01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:23.279
don't know what else I'll mean, I'm kind of like

1638
01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:27.479
beyond the April arrival window. I'm a little skeptical of

1639
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:29.760
you know. I mean, I'll pre order some stuff, but

1640
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:32.800
i won't pay in advance for it because I'm very

1641
01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:35.760
skeptical about what may go on. So it's real tough

1642
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:39.159
time for I feel bad, not for me as a collector.

1643
01:42:39.279 --> 01:42:41.600
I feel bad for the people who invest years of

1644
01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:44.880
their life to create a product and then they run

1645
01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:49.000
into the current circumstances that are not driven by common sense.

1646
01:42:49.159 --> 01:42:56.560
So it's tough. Yeah, digression and time to hear from

1647
01:42:56.680 --> 01:42:58.039
Uncle Charles.

1648
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:02.600
Charles, Oh, trying to look like Jim.

1649
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:07.159
Huh, you got promoted, Charles, Uncle Charles, Now you have

1650
01:43:07.239 --> 01:43:09.159
to buy a lot more gifts for your nephews.

1651
01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:11.439
And yes please.

1652
01:43:13.159 --> 01:43:16.600
Okay, And can I just say you know this has

1653
01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:21.000
been on my mind forever, right, I would just we

1654
01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:25.439
need a different gender amongst us trust tre experts. Right,

1655
01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:28.439
it has been guy Guy, get g got guy guy, Guy, Guy,

1656
01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:32.319
Guy guy forever. Okay, I I think we need to

1657
01:43:32.359 --> 01:43:36.560
mix it up and get somebody who's you know, we

1658
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:38.840
do differently endowed in here.

1659
01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:43.800
Sharon, but we haven't had her on in quite a while.

1660
01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:46.560
And my daughter Jamie used to join us for a

1661
01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:49.039
little while, but she hasn't been around either.

1662
01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:53.199
Uh, what if we did this? Okay, I'm just trying

1663
01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:56.279
to think of ways to like generate uh Patreon income

1664
01:43:56.399 --> 01:43:58.840
for you and uh and also ideas to spice up

1665
01:43:58.840 --> 01:44:02.600
the show right as a summer project, okay, all summer

1666
01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:05.800
long on the Facebook group. Right, we should be talking

1667
01:44:05.800 --> 01:44:07.640
about this off the air, but who knows, somebody may

1668
01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:10.800
listen and get inspired. So why not? And we had

1669
01:44:10.840 --> 01:44:14.920
a contest, right, people like send in their audition tapes

1670
01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:17.920
and say we would like to add a a non

1671
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:21.239
male member of the you know, to the crew. Right,

1672
01:44:21.359 --> 01:44:23.319
send us your audition, would you like to join as

1673
01:44:23.319 --> 01:44:25.880
a trexpert? Show us your stuff, right, and it would

1674
01:44:25.920 --> 01:44:28.800
be a way to generate like buzz all the summer,

1675
01:44:29.199 --> 01:44:31.399
and it could maybe you know, make us a little

1676
01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:34.600
bit less you know, old white, old white man kind

1677
01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:37.279
of thing. All right, So, because we are David's the

1678
01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:39.359
youngest one of all of us. I'm the oldest. I

1679
01:44:39.520 --> 01:44:43.439
guarantee you right, you know, but I think we just

1680
01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:45.920
need some some different juice. Man. I like it, so

1681
01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:48.159
I think it would really goes. I'll shut up now

1682
01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:51.720
and again, Ladies and gentlemen, he's back from his bark lounger.

1683
01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:53.159
Please welcome Uncle Charles.

1684
01:44:56.439 --> 01:45:02.680
I prefer sub Commander to uncle. But we're getting another

1685
01:45:02.760 --> 01:45:08.760
novel coming out the official release of Paramount Plus's third season,

1686
01:45:08.880 --> 01:45:12.399
Strange aw Worlds and might be under a strict lock

1687
01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:15.479
and key, but that doesn't mean Star Trek Universe has

1688
01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:19.680
suddenly stopped revolving, as a new Star Trek world is

1689
01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:25.319
coming later next month later this month, composed by veterans

1690
01:45:25.359 --> 01:45:29.199
Star Trek author James Swallow and being published as Simon

1691
01:45:29.199 --> 01:45:34.520
and Schuster pocket Books on April twenty ninth. This absorbing

1692
01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:40.479
cosmic diversion to temporarily do help the fan with the

1693
01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:44.600
original Star Trek Avengers unfolding and the Final Frontier with

1694
01:45:44.720 --> 01:45:51.319
Star Trek Changed New Worlds Towards the Night. While patrolling

1695
01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:55.760
the borders of the Klingon Empire, Captain Christopher Pike and

1696
01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:59.239
the crew of the US Its Enterprise record a series

1697
01:45:59.239 --> 01:46:04.600
of subspace echoes from a planet orbiting a volatile layer star,

1698
01:46:05.640 --> 01:46:10.319
and with Spock and Commander Una Chuneiley lead a lending

1699
01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:13.359
prior to learn more. They discovered the ruins of a

1700
01:46:13.399 --> 01:46:19.239
dead civilization, evidence of starship grade metals, why possibly a

1701
01:46:19.359 --> 01:46:24.039
crash site. This will be the third in a pocketbook

1702
01:46:24.159 --> 01:46:27.640
series in the universe of Star Trek Strange two world novels,

1703
01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:32.199
the first of which was High Country, followed by Asylum,

1704
01:46:34.479 --> 01:46:37.680
And for those that may not have time for books,

1705
01:46:38.520 --> 01:46:43.000
this one will also be an audiobook on Audible, which

1706
01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:48.760
you can also find on Amazon or audible dot Com.

1707
01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:52.680
Don't know, Yes and Charles Well I just mentioned that

1708
01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:55.840
this is the guy that wrote one of our favorite

1709
01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:57.880
Star Trek. I believe it's one of your favorites as well.

1710
01:46:57.880 --> 01:47:01.399
It's one of my favorites Fear Itself novels. The same

1711
01:47:01.439 --> 01:47:04.840
guy that wrote that, and it was so good. I

1712
01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:06.920
think it like that was kind of early on in

1713
01:47:06.960 --> 01:47:09.680
those Discovery novels. It might have been the third or

1714
01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:13.159
fourth one that came out something like that. It was

1715
01:47:13.239 --> 01:47:15.880
so good and like it like gave you that background

1716
01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:21.359
to Seru's kind of whole situation before we got to

1717
01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:22.920
see some of that on Discovery.

1718
01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:26.880
Yep, might I can't have to be a birthday present,

1719
01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:34.439
all right, Jim, I think you want to talk about

1720
01:47:34.479 --> 01:47:35.520
Starfleet Academy.

1721
01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:40.439
Yes, a little bit, just a tad a touch so

1722
01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:49.840
Star Trek Starfleet Academy compared to Buffy the Vampire Slayer comparison, huh.

1723
01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:53.600
Editor Joe Dobrinsky has worked on a lot of big franchises,

1724
01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:57.720
including Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Star Trek. He talked

1725
01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:00.359
a little bit about the upcoming Starfleet to ca Me

1726
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:03.920
and Howard reminded him of Buffy, lamenting that he hadn't

1727
01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:08.920
had the chance to work on more comedies. Dobrosky said, quote,

1728
01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:13.560
the new series I'm working on, Starfleet Academy, has some

1729
01:48:13.640 --> 01:48:18.199
great comedic moments, the young cadets and their energy. It's

1730
01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:22.279
going a little bit about Buffy Belperre and fun where

1731
01:48:22.319 --> 01:48:26.439
every week has something insane is happening and they're looking

1732
01:48:26.479 --> 01:48:29.960
at each other and going, is this really happening? Did

1733
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:33.960
you see what just happened down the hallway? Oh my god?

1734
01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:38.880
It's funny, and I enjoy that. This won't be the

1735
01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:41.720
first time Star Trek borrows a little bit of something

1736
01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:45.840
from Buffy. The second season of Star Trek Strange New

1737
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:52.520
Worlds included a musical episode reminiscent of Buffy's musical episode

1738
01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:56.760
Once More with Feeling, and even included a nod to

1739
01:48:56.840 --> 01:49:01.479
the earlier series. Speaking of music, that's one thing that

1740
01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:05.640
Dobrowski says bothers him about working with Star Trek shows

1741
01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:13.479
a disappointing lack of contemporary music. Quote. My one issue

1742
01:49:13.479 --> 01:49:16.239
with Star Trek has always been since it takes place

1743
01:49:16.319 --> 01:49:20.479
so far in the future, you don't have conventional you

1744
01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:26.000
don't have any contemporary music, Dobroski said. You can't put

1745
01:49:26.039 --> 01:49:30.720
a kick ass rock song, hip hop, k pop or

1746
01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:34.680
whatever it is. It doesn't belong. And that is the

1747
01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:37.439
one thing when I step away from Star Trek and

1748
01:49:37.479 --> 01:49:42.560
do other things is always satisfying. It's almost like stepping

1749
01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:45.439
out into the fresh air to get used to good

1750
01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:51.359
contemporary music because you get stuck in a star track box.

1751
01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:56.399
I disagree with that completely because I remember hearing Pat

1752
01:49:56.520 --> 01:50:01.199
Benattar's Shadows of the Ninth being sung by the Board

1753
01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:05.000
Queen on Star Trek Pit Card. I also remember the

1754
01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:08.399
Beastie Boys being featured in Star Trek two thousand and

1755
01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:14.479
nine as well as Roy Orbison in Star Trek First Contact.

1756
01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:17.920
So we do hear some contemporary music in Star Trek.

1757
01:50:19.079 --> 01:50:21.600
To be fair, Star Trek has been in I just

1758
01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:26.000
went over that Starfleet Academy is expected to stream on

1759
01:50:26.079 --> 01:50:29.840
Paramount Plus either later this year or early next year.

1760
01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:34.039
The upcoming series follows the very first class of Starfleet

1761
01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:40.520
cadets in well over a century. And Eric, you've got

1762
01:50:40.560 --> 01:50:41.520
our next story.

1763
01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:44.600
Okay, I am totally going to read this story, but

1764
01:50:44.640 --> 01:50:46.680
I just have to comment on one thing in my

1765
01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:50.399
opinion on that last story. So, yes, we have seen

1766
01:50:50.479 --> 01:50:54.399
some contemporary music in Star Trek. Does it belong there?

1767
01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:58.000
In my opinion, it does not. I think that that

1768
01:50:58.159 --> 01:51:00.800
is laziness. I think that we can pay some people

1769
01:51:00.840 --> 01:51:03.760
some money to bring the Beastie Boys into Star Trek

1770
01:51:03.800 --> 01:51:06.399
two thousand and nine, and I think that if we

1771
01:51:06.479 --> 01:51:09.399
had a little bit more creativity to us, we can

1772
01:51:09.439 --> 01:51:13.880
actually generate new music that would do the same thing.

1773
01:51:14.159 --> 01:51:17.159
So I personally like Star Wars does a way better

1774
01:51:17.279 --> 01:51:19.720
job of that right now than Star Trek is doing.

1775
01:51:19.800 --> 01:51:24.840
So that's my soapbox on Star Trek music right now.

1776
01:51:25.399 --> 01:51:29.520
But let's get back to my article Star Trek Omega

1777
01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:34.880
brings it all to an end and ties in with Nemesis.

1778
01:51:35.079 --> 01:51:37.880
That's right, one of those movies that y'all hate, but

1779
01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:40.920
that is better than you think it is. The current

1780
01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:43.680
run of Star Trek from IDW Publishing will end in

1781
01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:47.039
June with Star Trek Omega and then start to get

1782
01:51:47.079 --> 01:51:50.079
in July with new titles and some of the same

1783
01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:54.399
creative teams. Star Trek Omega concludes more than two years

1784
01:51:54.439 --> 01:51:57.520
of shared storytelling between the two Star Trek and Star

1785
01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:01.760
Trek Defiance series, written by Collin k Kelly Jackson Lansing,

1786
01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:04.840
and Christopher Cantwell, and drawn by the artists who have

1787
01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:08.079
drawn both series and in the aftermath of the Star

1788
01:52:08.119 --> 01:52:11.880
Trek Lore War event and tying in with Star Trek

1789
01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:17.199
Nemesis film. Star Trek Omega number one from acclaimed creators

1790
01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:20.159
over the past two years, two and a half years

1791
01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:24.279
of comics spanning sixty years of Star Trek history, a

1792
01:52:24.319 --> 01:52:29.880
fair few awards, and more than a few universe detonations.

1793
01:52:30.399 --> 01:52:32.039
I don't know if that's the word they meant to use,

1794
01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:36.000
and it's all been coming to this. Star Trek Omega

1795
01:52:36.199 --> 01:52:39.439
is the denouncement of the critically acclaimed Star Trek and

1796
01:52:39.479 --> 01:52:41.840
Star Trek Defiant storylines. Is that the word they meant

1797
01:52:41.880 --> 01:52:44.840
to use, and the first glimpse at all that comes next,

1798
01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:48.520
I think the thing is here. They're bringing everything all together.

1799
01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:52.880
The crews of the Theseus, Defiant, and the Enterprise set

1800
01:52:52.920 --> 01:52:55.359
to work restoring the universe to what it should be.

1801
01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:59.840
After the evil Android Laure's intervention. Each hero finds their

1802
01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:04.760
in preordained or unexpected ways, with individual scenes depicted by

1803
01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:09.279
one of Star Trek or Defiant's mainline artists. This finale

1804
01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:13.840
pays tribute to all those who were involved in the series.

1805
01:53:14.439 --> 01:53:19.439
On Sale six eighteen, pre order deadline five twelve forty

1806
01:53:19.439 --> 01:53:25.880
page one shot, six bucks. So yeah, I'm super excited

1807
01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:29.359
about Star Trek Omega. I think I mentioned this in

1808
01:53:29.399 --> 01:53:32.960
the last podcast. My personal opinion is that Star Trek

1809
01:53:33.359 --> 01:53:36.479
Defiant has been totally nailing the comic thing to the.

1810
01:53:36.439 --> 01:53:37.279
Wall right now.

1811
01:53:37.720 --> 01:53:41.760
I'm really really digging. I think there's been like one

1812
01:53:41.880 --> 01:53:44.319
or two issues of Defiant that I haven't totally loved,

1813
01:53:44.359 --> 01:53:46.239
but every other issue I think they're up to twenty

1814
01:53:46.279 --> 01:53:48.359
six or twenty so, I don't know, somewhere in the twenties,

1815
01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:52.600
been amazing. The regular Star Trek title has gone a

1816
01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:56.079
little bit off the rails, but I think it's okay,

1817
01:53:56.199 --> 01:54:00.880
especially if you like Cisco and that whole like celestial

1818
01:54:02.199 --> 01:54:08.800
Temple thing. There's a lot of Celestial Temple, but Star

1819
01:54:08.880 --> 01:54:11.479
Trek Omega appears to be bringing it all together. So

1820
01:54:11.520 --> 01:54:14.000
I kind of like the idea of we're putting all

1821
01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:15.319
this stuff out there, I'm my god, and my god,

1822
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:17.319
it's so crazy, it's so great, and then we're gonna

1823
01:54:17.359 --> 01:54:20.800
bring it all together and kind of refocus the titles.

1824
01:54:21.079 --> 01:54:26.319
So I'm super excited about this issue right now. You'll

1825
01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:29.920
notice that if you're watching the video right now, that

1826
01:54:30.199 --> 01:54:33.079
Spock's face is in there. Yes, Spock is a big

1827
01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:37.840
part of this. Also, we have Cela, we have Chief

1828
01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:41.319
O'Brien in this, we have Lore, and of course two

1829
01:54:41.359 --> 01:54:44.600
of the greatest stars I think of Star Trek Defiant

1830
01:54:44.640 --> 01:54:49.279
in particular are Rolleran and Blana Torres. We have one

1831
01:54:49.359 --> 01:54:52.000
new character whose name I will not reveal right now

1832
01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:53.560
because you need to go out and buy the title,

1833
01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:56.960
but she's been fantastic throughout most of Star Trek Defiant

1834
01:54:57.039 --> 01:55:00.960
right now, so I'm excited about this one, and I

1835
01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:05.720
hope that this kind of reboot brings the regular Star

1836
01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:09.479
Trek title back into the fold because for me, that

1837
01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:11.199
one's been a little bit out there. I hope we

1838
01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:13.199
get a chance to review the Star Trek titles at

1839
01:55:13.279 --> 01:55:15.720
some point because that one's been a little bit out there.

1840
01:55:16.199 --> 01:55:20.680
But Defiant, if you like Star Trek at all, you

1841
01:55:20.680 --> 01:55:23.439
should be buying all the Defiant titles.

1842
01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:24.920
So yeah, there you go.

1843
01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:26.119
It's my opinion.

1844
01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:28.560
I'll stick it to it, all right, guys.

1845
01:55:28.600 --> 01:55:32.319
Well, that wraps up our podcast for this week. Next

1846
01:55:32.359 --> 01:55:37.479
week we have a very special show back by popular demand.

1847
01:55:37.640 --> 01:55:47.920
I guess Star Treks Evil Admirals and Eric did this

1848
01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:51.239
at Trek Conder Roga a couple of years ago, and

1849
01:55:51.279 --> 01:55:53.560
we're going to bring it to you guys live right

1850
01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:56.399
here next week, so you don't want to miss the

1851
01:55:56.439 --> 01:56:00.439
next podcast. And without any further ado, I'm your most

1852
01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:03.479
excellent host, Uncle Jim. I want to say thank you

1853
01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:06.520
to Eric for hanging out and trek talking with us tonight.

1854
01:56:06.560 --> 01:56:07.880
Thank you so much, Eric.

1855
01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:09.600
You bet guys.

1856
01:56:09.640 --> 01:56:11.359
I appreciate the fact that you let me talk and

1857
01:56:11.399 --> 01:56:13.399
talk and talk and you never say please stop.

1858
01:56:15.359 --> 01:56:18.079
That's what we're all about. And thank you so much

1859
01:56:18.119 --> 01:56:20.720
for Paul for hanging out and Trek talking with us.

1860
01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:21.479
Thank you, Paul.

1861
01:56:22.520 --> 01:56:24.840
Oh, it was fun. We do get silly, don't we.

1862
01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:30.119
That's what our fans like, that's what they expect. And

1863
01:56:30.159 --> 01:56:32.600
thank you to Charles for hanging out and Trek talking

1864
01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:33.560
with us. Thank you, Charles.

1865
01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:39.840
Oh, and why you have Eric be quiet? Eric's giving

1866
01:56:39.880 --> 01:56:42.520
him a good opinion. We all have opinions. We want

1867
01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:44.640
to share them.

1868
01:56:44.680 --> 01:56:48.680
True that true, that my friend. And of course we

1869
01:56:48.800 --> 01:56:50.960
got to say thank you to David. He's our miracle

1870
01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:56.319
worker making his awesome slide shows and video presentations possible.

1871
01:56:56.479 --> 01:56:58.079
Thank you so much, David.

1872
01:56:58.960 --> 01:57:01.800
Yeah, you're welcome. I have to give a shout out

1873
01:57:01.840 --> 01:57:07.520
to my manager here, but you know, and I'm.

1874
01:57:07.359 --> 01:57:10.479
Your most excellent host, uncle Jim. And this is my

1875
01:57:10.680 --> 01:57:14.680
buddy George. He's my glomer He's going to be the

1876
01:57:14.720 --> 01:57:21.000
new mascot of our podcast unless Leah decides to show

1877
01:57:21.119 --> 01:57:23.720
up like you did a little bit earlier. He'll be

1878
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:27.600
with me on every show. And I just want to

1879
01:57:27.640 --> 01:57:29.600
say thank you so much to each and every one

1880
01:57:29.640 --> 01:57:33.680
of you guys out there. Star Trek fans are the

1881
01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:37.640
best fans. Thank you for being a fan. And make

1882
01:57:37.680 --> 01:57:40.800
sure you head over to Trek talkin dot com because

1883
01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:45.640
I'm going to start posting the videos of these podcasts there,

1884
01:57:46.159 --> 01:57:48.720
so if you're not if you're not a patron, you'll

1885
01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:50.880
be able to watch them over there. But they're going

1886
01:57:50.920 --> 01:57:53.199
to be about a month behind. So if you want

1887
01:57:53.239 --> 01:57:55.600
to see the up to date current stuff, you know,

1888
01:57:56.159 --> 01:57:59.439
cough up that two bucks and you can see them

1889
01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:02.960
pretty much much, you know, the same day or the

1890
01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:05.359
next day. All right, guys, So I just want to

1891
01:58:05.399 --> 01:58:08.840
tell everybody to stay safe and be good to each other.

1892
01:58:09.239 --> 01:58:14.920
Hailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, good night, love

1893
01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:19.319
long and prosper and prosperilf.

1894
01:58:19.439 --> 01:58:26.239
All stations ready for departure, sir, some problem RCA.

1895
01:58:26.760 --> 01:58:29.239
I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way our missions.

1896
01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:31.039
Will go, sir. Oh no, number one.

1897
01:58:32.159 --> 01:58:34.159
I'm sure most will be much more interesting.

1898
01:58:38.159 --> 01:58:39.399
Let's see what's out there.

1899
01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:44.119
Engage