Episode 628- Andy Bray, Trek Sketches The Gorn

0:04 I've died, died, King Ways. Fox beer Look is acting very weird. Captain Pykes siscous wife King Ons and me after. Like Boimer, Tendy Starbarans is very hard. Sport Drive Black Alert Toorgio has gone passer, It's bad laugh and word is an idiots. Pakistan Wolf is were Checkout's wearing red Tee's cat. Kim pass set enough for that, Penny up. Make it so, everybody, let go about the series. You join us, live up your phone, now me talking.

0:46 About the series. I'm coming to your services. Now we talk. About the series. Come to see Loves Flowing Down. God, I love that theme song, Eric, It's just something about it, you know, it's jumping. I like the Dominion's part just gets me every single time. Oh that's on the next one, that's on the Poland song. How often do you guys have to update the theme song?

1:26 Well, it's probably due for an update. I mean that version was probably done a couple of years ago, and it was when we were very Discovery focused, but after lower Decks had come out, so I don't know, it probably could do with it. It doesn't have any strange New World's references, for example. So yeah, Starfleet Academy's coming up to Well, we'll have to work on that anyways. Guys, it is Thursday, March twentieth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode six hundred and twenty eight of Trek Talk and six undred twenty eight. Wow Wow Wow. Before I go to following most excellent host, Uncle Jim, I want to go around the room and introduce my incredible truck Spurts to you. How we're going to start out with Eric? Eric is out in Portland.

2:08 How you doing tonight? Eric? Doing pretty good, man, Just trying to comply with all the new DEI requirements here. So I've had to disinvite a bunch of friends from the podcast. I hear that. I hear that. Oh boy, we also have out in Portland, our very own Paul. How you doing tonight, Paul? I'm good man, I'm good Uncle Jim, and you can expect a grand total of zero compliance from me. Okay, and I will not be complying well with anyone, that's at all, because I know how to read the tea leaves. Last night, when that Pacocta space capsule crashed down, what greeted it? A pot of dolphins? Right. So the Age of Aquarius is coming down, baby.

2:58 And the year five. Expect me to follow any fascist electric uh you know, match firing douchebags you come to the wrong sheriff. Now, I'll be complying with nothing. I'm you turn this mother down. I'll still be staying with friend. That's my hellodious. Well, I'm glad that you weren't one of the disinvited ones. Oh no, I'm glad. You have to get me out here with the swat team. Baby, I ain't going no damn where it ain't happening. Excellent, and sticking with our Portland theme, we have David, he's our miracle worker. How you doing tonight, David?

3:38 Good? Pretty good? I got my uh trouble here? Who graduated from Starflats. That's pretty good. Well, that's a good thing. And we're gonna we're gonna head out of Portland and we're gonna jump all the way over to Las Vegas and we're gonna say hello to Charles. How you doing tonight, Charles? I'm doing good. Weather. It's starting to get a little bettter, so I can sit ten studio B palmre is out. It's not swaying this time. But no, but it's not swinging in the wind either. Always so long and thanks for the fish.

4:23 And joining us tonight from the Great State of Tennessee, we have the one and only Andy Bray. How you doing tonight, Andy, doing well? Doing well? Well, It's only a matter of time before I have to evacuate the Great State of Tennessee for the Great Bunker in Canada. Oh, so today's news was rather depressing from me, we're jumping right into the politics. Well nothing, thank you. Oh when Canada becomes part of the United States, will all be at home up there a we'll join GM Chris up there. So, guys, I urge you all to go over to Trek Talking dot Com and in the bottom right hand corny you'll see a little blue talkback Mike.

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6:20 We had was the audio. But guess what now the podcast is full video and for two dollars you get the video. You can see all the miracle work that David does for us on the podcast and all the videos that we play from our awesome guests like Andy Bray for only two dollars. So please go over there and subscribe for two dollars. We really really could like your help. If you don't want to be a subscriber, if you don't like Patreon, and you don't want to have that two dollars a month subscription. There's also a link to our PayPal count and you can make a one time donation, although then you won't get the awesome videos, but at least you'll know that you're helping out independent podcast like Trek Talking. So what are you guys ready to dive in? So on tonight's show, we're going to be talking with the Andy Bray right here, checking in with check Off the Gorn Secrets, which are some really incredible Trek sketches that you could find on YouTube.

7:21 If I interject, I would say do his uncle Jim says, you want to see these sketches. They we've played played this one on here before as a as a radio drama, and the visual gags play much better when you can see them, so. Which you will see them tonight, is great, but it's really good to be able to you know, it is a visual medium. Don't work as well without. So you'll be able to see it all with your own eyes. If you pay the two dollars, or if you want to wait a month, you can find them on our YouTube channel. So anyways, tonight we're also gonna have our fans shout out segments, and that's where we thank you the fans for participating and being members of our Trek talking community. We also have our Star Trek poll questions, like, you know, here's one for Paul, is it okay to force peace on people? And does Nazism offer a more efficient governmental system? Interesting? We're going to talk about those in our Star Trek polls. We also have our Star Trek birthdays. What Star Trek actor do you share a birthday with? And what's going on in the Star Trek universe. You know, Con is back in a manner of speaking, master re replica starships can put a Starship in the palm of your hand, What would a Klingon living next door look like to you? And what about those damn Red Shirts? So that's what we have going on tonight. You don't want to miss it.

8:52 We're going to dive right into our fans shout outs right now, and for that we're going to turn to Eric, who's going to get us started. Take us away, Eric, Thanks Jim. This week we are spinning the globe over to a portion of the world that I think we're all thinking a lot about these days. From Irpin, Ukraine. We're saying hello this week to Maria Covalenko. Maria Covalenko, thank you so much for finding time in your schedule to interact with us on our Facebook page and for listening to the podcast. There's a have a lot going on over there right now, and I just cannot tell you how much we're all thinking about you and how much we really really appreciate you continuing to support the podcast in the midst of what I'm sure is plenty of turmoil.

9:37 So Maria Covalenco, thank you so much and once again, livelong and prosper to you. We're also saying hello this week to Michelle Wiley, who is an all star contributor on our Trek Talking page. She's from Aberdeen, Scotland over there in the UK, and we always appreciate lots of support from our friends across the pond. Michelle Wiley, thank you for listening to our podcast and for support us in the ways that you do. I'd like to say hello this week as well to Hannah Matalanen, who's saying hello to us from hell Sinky, Finland. Just coming this fall, I'm planning to trip over to Scandinavia. Myself and hell Sinky's on the list of potential destinations, So Hannah, I would love to, you know, see what you got going on over there. It seems pretty cool and I like the weather, and I like lots of seafood, which I'm sure you have plenty of. Thanks for saying hello to us this week, Hannah. And last but not least on my list, we're saying hello to deb Louise, who's saying hello to us from down under in Sydney, Australia, home of amazing architecture, amazing people, and all sorts of cool things.

10:44 De Luiz, thank you so much for saying hello to us and for supporting our podcast from the other hemisphere. Charles going to pass this shout out Mike over to you, buddy. Thank you. Eric. Let's give a warm welcome to George Sheldon from North Carolina. Welcome George. I have a top contributor, Tom Drake from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. I hope it's warm up there over there. Tom. Welcome to Dwayne Gillespie from Hendersonville, North Carolina. I always think of Henderson and I think of another part of Las Vegas, but you're in North Carolina. At final end list, Welcome to William Hannathan from Burbank, California. I know that it should be nice over there in Burbank.

11:43 I'd love to spend some time over to a little closer to Anaheim. So, David, who's on your list? Yeah? Thank Charles. I would like to give a warm welcome to an all star contributor from Portland, Oregon, USA. She says that the newest future province of Canada, and let's say that one. Welcome to Lamna, Julia Julie Lai Shandu. I think that's try to pronounce it. Next on my list is Holly Harris van buy Kirk from Ohio. And last on my list is a rising contributor, Doug Baits, who says Texas also known as the bad Land.

12:35 Paul, who's on your list? Thanks David. Well, you know, all these American states are great, But you know, I think it's important to remember that we live on a planet, not just a continent or not just a country. Right, So I think are a lot of other folks in other parts of the great sphere that is Earth are kind of shaking their heads these days, and so I like to make sure we have a segment that honors them and we salute them. So, hey, international fans like well trowm Auten in North Thrine, Westphalia, Germany. It is great to know that you're out there, and we do what we can to sort of tentatively steer into the future. A little you know, warp bubble here and there occasionally causes problems for us to welt Tron, but it helps us to know that you're out there and that your STARTRK enthusiasm is unflagging, my friend, So thanks for being a fan of the show. Hello also to Harisi Rangelova, who is a rising contributor from Sofia Bulgaria.

13:33 Attempting to make a joke out of rising contributor, but I'm leaving it alone because it's a family program, so let's just leave that me. But great knowing you're out there in a beautiful part of the world. Sofia Bulgaria absolutely amazing and I would love to go visit this fan because they live in a place I would absolutely if I went. I don't think I've come back. The magical land of Como, Italy. Absolutely gorgeous there, tine flag unfurled, It's our good pal My Similian, a buddy though is in Como. Astonishing place to be able to say that you live Messimbiliano. Envy you there, sir, and going back to my family's home soil the old sod. It's Kevin William Hewitt in bear Regis, Dorset in England. So proof, friends, we have fans and start to enthusiasts all over the planet.

14:23 So let's hope that some of that collective common sense can help unite us so that we continue and still be here when other arms of the franchise come along. Uncle Jim, I know you're chomping at the bit to to you know, say hello to some of your your your Kronos brethren. Man so much, take it away, absolutely, thank you so much. Paul, you want to start off by saying thank you to Michael Barbo. I can't read this. My eyes are so old. Here Barbary from upstate New York, in the Webster area, right where Susan Gidney grew up. You guys know who Susan Gidney was. Paul must know. Uh wasn't she Betsy Ross's lesbian roommate.

15:07 Yeah, she sold the flag. Yeah, now, Susan Susan. Susan Gibney was was Jordie's holographic girlfriend on TNG who designed the Enterprise engines. Oh that one, yeah, yeah, helped her pulsing in the engine. The character again on the gym. Maybe helped me out with the character name. Oh my god, what was the character's name? Geez, I don't remember the characters. My brain is old. I remember it was, Uh, it was her, Yeah, that woman? All right? Yeah? What was her name? Charles? You gotta know, No, Charles doesn't know.

15:47 It. Broms. Was that her? I think that's right. Yeah, I think I think it was. I'm pretty sure. Because folks with this moner don't like it. If you leave it off, it's doctor le Bron, you could get slapped. Yeah. We don't want to want, you know, all that stuff. We don't want to get in trouble. We also want to say thank you to Janice West who's listening to us in Texas. Thank you so much for being a fan. Janis and I have a top contributor, Robbie by Dottie from New York, New York. Thank you for listening. And uh, this is a big one here. We want to say thank you to Patricia Divesso, who's a rising contributor, And you guys are never going to guess why she made my list.

16:34 I bet I can guess. Is it because she's a fan of that Clint Easwood movie A fist full of emojis? Yes, she's listening to us in port Writing, New Jersey, USA. She says, I'm from the Continuum, just kidding, but she left a live long and prosper a laughing, a crying an alien two explanation points, another livelong and prosper a winking. What is that a kissing? Thirteen? Did you say explanation points? Did I hear that correctly? There's two of them? Another alien head, a thumbs up, a rose, a heart? And what is that white one? A cloud?

17:15 It's an jim. Anyways, the way that if you want to get on the on the list, guys leave emoji that catches my attention, and Patricia proved that with eleven of them. So thank you so much, Patricia. And she's a rising contributor, which means she's visiting our Facebook page, answering our polls and just basically interacting with us over there, which is absolutely awesome. If you would like to hear your name mentioned on a future fan shout out, then all you have to do is head over to our Facebook page and participate. All right, it's time for our Star Trek polls.

18:01 You know me like no win? What you thought about the show? Then we try. To share your opinions with all of our minions out there. Because they listen worldwide. So tell us just what you think. Get together we will all drink Canara and robulin an. All right, guys over on our Facebook page. Every week I try to come up with fun and interesting polls. Some of them are just stupid and fun, and some of them are meant to make you stop and think. And I have a couple of good ones this week that might be relevant to a few things that are happening.

18:42 And Eric, would you like to get us started? Would I ever? Our first poll this week is going back to the original series. In the TS episode Errand of Mercy, the Organians force peace between the Klingons and the Federation. Did they have the right to force peace? And? Uh, you know, seventy five percent of our poll responders said, heck yeah, the Organians strong arm was the right thing to do, and only twenty five percent said Nope. I would rather have seen it done a different way. So, uh interesting, you know, pretty pretty forceful tactic. Well, a lot of people do it. Well, we'll let Andy start off on this. What do you think Andy did that? Do you Organians have the right to do that?

19:31 Or should they have let the Federation and the Klingons do it themselves? I like this this episode is is that the episode we're diving into politics, We're asking the difficult questions. Luckily, that difficult question has an easy answer. If you have the power to force peace, you always force peace. It is better to force peace peacefully than to allow war to continue. So I am all for forcing peace peacefully. So Andy is with the seventy five percent? How about you? Eric? Well, you know, I'm I'm a little bit with Andy on this one because they didn't zap anybody, they didn't threaten anybody. They basically just kind of held them hostage and said, you know, y'all better get along. I don't exactly remember what their motivations were though, Why did they even do that?

20:21 Because the mere thought of violence was so abhorrent to them, They found it just so distasteful, and at the end they're like, please leave, the very presence of creatures like you is just disgusting. Well they well, then in a lot. Of ways, that's not unlike you know, any sort of entity forcing their ideals on somebody else either. So, man, that's a tough one. I mean, the Klingons in the Federation did need somebody to kind of jumpstart the process. Did it work in the end? Uh? Well, marginally at So I guess my final answer is h overall, despite the fact that I think there was probably some good reasons to do it, and maybe the outcome was Okay, I don't know, forcing anybody to do anythings, not necessarily you know, within my favorite things for people to do. So I'm gonna say, no, no, it was not right for them to do it. So you're with a twenty five I'm with the twenty five percent.

21:21 Wow, I am done by. This, Eric, par Okay, I can. I'm talking like a libertarian there there. That's where I'm You're gonna have to have a lot of talk with you. I'm gonna jump in here, and uh, you know, I got to agree with Eric. I gotta say I'm with Eric for the for the simple Okay, I agree with Andy's assessment that if you can stop mass killings and violence peacefully, you should. It's the right thing to do. However, however, I think the flip side of the coin is if you force people to be friends, they're not learning anything from that lesson because it wasn't earned. And if they don't learn how to accept each other for the way they are, then they haven't changed. And so I gotta go with Eric and the twenty five percent and say, no, the Organians shouldn't have done that, even though it turned out well, uh for the most part.

22:29 So I would add a wrinkle to it. I mean, it was on Organian soil, true, or they had brought the war to them, that's true, extended past their planet, but the fighting was like centered on their planet, so that that kind of gives them an excuse to insert themselves. That's a good point. That's true. That's true, very. And everybody's right. And we don't know. Yeah, what does Chekhov say about that he was there? Russia, as you know, is known for peacekeeping, right, I don't know. I haven't read history in a while.

23:10 I assume it, right, the biggest best lest phone conversation has ever happened in Russia. All right, Charles, what about you? Okay, so they put peace out, they were peaceful while they were on the planet. Did that piece last past the planet? I don't think so. I think klan Under still at war with the Veneration from another century or more, maybe not a cent. Years. It was still seventy years. Well, it was a sixty or seventy years, because you know TG happens eighty years after TS right in that rate, So yeah, well probably know you and I don't remember when Kiddimer happened.

23:57 But that's about thirty years later, wasn't it. And yeah, something like that. Yeah, but I think we still had the Klingons challenging us and TNG until Wharf and they started doing a little more dealing with the Council. I think. I'm says the Organian peace treaty lasted one hundred years. What about Organia? That's about right, that's yeah, I mean start Trek six is kind of what really kicked us into peace with the Klingons, right, wasn't it. Yeah, but that wasn't forced by the Organians, I don't think.

24:38 I think that was gor Khan and Spock that worked that out, right, Yeah, So what Charles are you Are you with the minions or against dominions? On this one? With Eric on the twenty five percenters, I think there's a point where forcing peace doesn't always work, and I don't think it worked outside the planet. All right, there you have it. So, uh, David, what about you? Are you with dominions or against dominions this week? Well, Pisa sounds good, but I don't think we're talking about that. Yeah, but I'm definitely gonna have to go with Andy on this one. I actually kind of agree with a lot of the different things you said, like the soil, I mean, just imagining having people come to your soil and bring war. I mean, what would you do so in a way if then, yeah, I would say that that's probably the right thing to do. I would have to say, I agree.

25:33 Like that would never happen in today's world. Never. So is that decision here? Well, right now, it's it's going to be up to Paul. Paul is going to be the deciding factor here, all right. So if somebody comes over to your house and you're hosting a party and that person starts throwing up everywhere and you know, shitting on the carpet, right, I think you have the right to tell them to get the fuck out right. I really think that that is pretty much a universal concept, And if you listen to the Organians in this episode, that's the stance that they take. They're like, we find you human beings just disgusting in your violent barbarism, the fact that you would actually fight for your right to be violent. You're kind of revealing yourself as sort of the lowest of the low and the food chain, and that you're basically, you know, hitting coconuts with sticks is really about all you're qualified to be able to do. You're not an enlightened species, and they found it really off putting. So I think that, yeah, I'm with the seventy five percent that says absolutely because if you're in defending your right to be a violent primitive, basically, you know, you lose all rights to join the rest of the enlightened world. Yeah, you can go ahead and be a violent primitive, go and do your thing, but the rest of the enlightened cosmos wants nothing to do with you, right, I mean, basically it's the same go back to day the ear stood still, right, That's how they evolved in that classic science fiction movie right, which they created a police force and to make sure that if you had a violent thought or if you behaved

27:06 or expressed violence, that's it. You're done. And so they had a zero tolerance policy for violence whatsoever. And so that's how they attained their utopia. Childhood's End from Arthur C. Clark, the same idea, you're not smart enough to clean up your own mess, we'll clean it up for you because we're more evolved. So if you want to admit that you're a lesser evolved form of life, go for it. But I think we're seeing in the world we live in today that you know, we have already hope of evolving, we'd better like put down the sharp knives and sticks and start reading some more books and start behaving ourselves in a more enlightened way. And besides, as far as like did they have the right to force peace? The Organians have the non corporeal power to shape an entire planet to look like whatever they wanted to be. I'd say they have the right to do whatever they want, because I don't think anybody in the Federation is going to be able to keep light with that. So I think that they've earned the right to do whatever they care too. So I'm absolutely andy in the seventy five don't defend the right to be a dick.

28:04 That that gives us a split decision between minions and non minions, and that brings us to our next funny how both these questions are TOOS episodes? Who picked these questions? Uncle Jim? So yeah, who did that? Paul? All right? What's our next question? Eric? All right? I think this one may have slightly less debate. We'll see, isn't THEOS episode learns of Force starting historian John gil who felt Nazism offered the best and most efficient government structure, modeled the ECHOS system after Nazi Germany? Do you agree with his decision? And a stunning zero percent of our responders agreed with his decision.

28:50 And. Frank, they support Nazism. It's kind of not surprising anymore. I mean, you know, I think a couple of people did say yes, and Jim like booted him out of the Facebook group. Right, That's how we wait about Jim's going on. When he puts out a question like this. He's going on a fishing expedition, right, He's looking for the ponds. Come, yeah, so no, no secret here. I'm absolutely with dominions. It is not a good form of government.

29:30 What about you, Paul? What about you? Paul? What about you? Critically about this? I'm very uh, you know, I usually keep my opinions to myself. Can we maybe all agree that there could be a special you know, Eric like talks about the evil Admirals category, right, and and how about we make a special category most moronic Starfleet officer of all time. Surely John Gill I think qualifies for that. I mean, because he's all drugged up at the end of the episode, right, he is clearly being manipulated by you know more.

30:13 You know, we talk about the universe's worst history or historian, wasn't he? I Mean I'm like, yeah, John Gill, Right, I don't think that. Idea was to introduce Nazism into any culture. I mean, come on, Gil, Yeah, it's basically you know, and and you know, the Reich stole like the ninety percent of their playbook from the Roman Empire, right, I mean that's what they sort of thought they were, you know, evoking. And study at Starfleet Academy. And where where did he learn? What is the what is the what is the Roman Empire episode original series helped me out. Bredon Circus is right, John gil makes the guys in bredon Circuses look like geniuses in comparison, right, I mean, because it's like, well, okay, well we're at least got to the point where we're having you know, car commercials and television shows and everything like that. But they're doing nothing in John Gill's Nazi Germany except looking like they lost their way on the set to Hogan's heroes. I mean, it's just terrible. So no A fascists, Nazis go to hell, all of you.

31:21 Well, I was sorry. That was an easy one. You know, I don't know where I come up with these questions. It must be from watching the news, I guess I don't know. Then, the third question is about the episode where k went to an abortion clinic, and we want to all. Right, well, guys, I told you we were going to have Andy Bray here checking in with Checkov, and here he is, and we're gonna check in with Checkov right now. Andy, you want to tell us a little bit about this skit where you got the idea and introduce it, and then we'll have David roll it. Well, this this skit. I got the idea for this gift from from from you guys. We were iring that the royalty checks are in the mail, I promised as soon as I start making money. But I was on this program doing a checking in with Chekhov where we were dissecting Kirk's epic fight with the Gorn, and how Chekhov began to wonder whether or not Kirk's fight with the Gorn was getting a little bit blown out of proportion, that perhaps the the mythos surrounding this fight was more fable than facts. And he decided, and and so in our our our episode together, I improvised a little uh checkof insult comic routine where he's bashing Kirk for fighting what he alleged to be an elderly Gorn. And then I decided, I think one of you guys mentioned that

32:53 it would make for a good Trek sketches, so I decided, oh yeah, it might actually, and I wrote it, I think in a day, and then it shortly afterwards, and premiered it with I think the second season of Strange New Worlds, because it has also involved Strange New World's Gorn. So I think that's enough introduction. This is basically check Doob's theory, his conspiracy theory as to the truth behind Captain Kirk's famous fight with the Gorn. And before we go too far though, for fans that don't know who Andy Bray is and god forbid, I can't imagine that. But for those fans who don't know and don't understand what we're talking about with Chekov, why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about about you and Chekov and where that all came from.

33:40 Absolutely well, I'm born and raised in Miami. I lived down Los Angeles for twenty two years. And one of the gigs I got to do in Los Angeles, if I can pan over without sending this all I got to do, I don't know how well you can see that. But that's Spock's brain at the improv in Los Angeles in Orange County, and that's the first ever official Paramount Pictures produced stage production of a Star Trek and actual Star Trek episode. We did word for word Spock's Brain and because our director felt like it was a very funny or at least primed to be very funny episode, as he says in an interview with upn at the time.

34:22 That tells you about when we did that twenty years ago, that he liked that episode. A lot of fans think it's one of the worst episodes, but for his money, it's a fun, adventurous episode. But it's really perfect for comedy because there's a lot of goofy stuff that goes on in it. So we played it straight word for word from the script, with the sound effects all of that, but we played it for laughs. And I got cast as Chekhov because I was twenty two years old at the time, and I auditioned for it and I had my own little monkeys do going and he saw me and said, I don't know if you can do the accent, but you look like Chekhov. Got the part, And then I went home and started sweating bullets because I could not do the accent. And I spent day after day, hour after hour, watching all the episodes working on the accent, and finally I learned the trick to doing trick off he's doing the Elvis Presley lip. Once he'll do that, you can do Chekhov, And we got to do. We did fourteen performances of it. Then we got to take it to Las Vegas at the big Las Vegas Convention.

35:26 I think that was actually when the Las Vegas Convention was relatively new. They had just moved from Pasadena, and as fate would have it, we performed on a Thursday night, the same day that Walter Kanning was there, and I talked Walter and to come into the show. He sat front and center, which talk about nerve racking singing Walter Kanning sitting right in the front row of the audience, but he was gracious. Afterwards he came backstage, he said hi to everyone. He was so sweet, and I thought that was that. And then a couple months later I got emailed by Jack Marshall of Star Trek New Voyages, which was the big fan film back then in the ops, and they told me that they wanted me to play checkof their Young Chekhof that they were doing an episode with Walter Kanig, and Walter Kaneing himself had recommended me to play Young Chekhoff. And then from there I got to go to Walter's house rehearsing every week with him, studying check Off with him, and then went up to upstate New York to shoot, which those fan film sets have since become the Star Trek Museum in tae Kwonderroga.

36:33 That's those sets that we filmed on and I got to play checkoff opposite Walter kaneing both of us in uniform in the checkoff quarters, doing checkoff accents at each other. It was really awesome. And from there I got to do an episode with George Takay and we did an episode with Denise Crosby, and then I wrote a book about it with John Lim who played Young Sulu, called Making Fake Star Trek, and we were second, and that one was about the Walter episode, and we were one called Making More Fake Star Trek about the George episode. And in promoting it, we took it onto this podcast called Trek Talking, and that's where I met you all and we had so much fun chatting and then uh doing check off there that you guys have been gracious enough to keep bringing me back to to do my goofer little checkof accent.

37:27 And so without that further Ado roll the tape, David, Let's let's see the gorn. Welcome to the first episode of Starship Secrets. I'm your host, ensign Pavo Checkoff. Working check Off insin Babo Andre Bitch Enterprise navigator and bargain Ben Davy Jones shut. Up computer secrets. See Wendy, what in went did by a little HB agent from. Productory not a Russian invention.

38:20 Now for the secrets. Last week, the Enterprise responded to a stress call from Cestis three a Gorn attack. For those unaware, this is a gorn. They are a. Fierce race of giant iguanas in Shiny Lingerie. Those who see them seldom live to tell the tale. So naturally. Ever since Keeptain Kirk fought and beat one, he's been unbearable, incorrigible. Like throwing alcohol at an engineer. Of course I watched the fight with the rest of the crew. It was broadcast sheep white, even in the boiler room where I work.

39:07 This being season one of our three season shift rotation, I'm not sure why they used that term secrets. It's been a week since kirkbeats Space Gumby, and still every time I pass him, Hey, Bobby Gorne Champ coming through, watch out for these phaser cannons. Pe poo poo poo pew. I have to take the Jeffries too to work just to avoid him. So I did a little research secrets. It turns out when Christopher Pike was kipting of the Enterprise, he also had a run in with the Gordons. Wait, gorns are just gorn, you know, like moose? Or is this a goosety situation? Does gorn become gern Gern? Anyway, I found that all the historical documents of Captain Pike's missions they were streaming on memory Alpha Plus. I haven't watched him yet, but I have a feeling that when we do, we will see that kitten Kirk was not the first human to beat the Gornseys. Let's watched together while I drink this full glass of water. Holy Stanislavsky, what the hell.

40:25 Is that thing? Was that a Gons's? Oh? That looks freaking terrifying. It looks like it the gack go gecko made it with an effing xenomorph. Oh, I think I wet my sparkly space pants. No, no, no, no, that can't be the same thing that kept in Kirk fought He's going walked around like an arthuralic freaking Frankenstein. Can we see another clip? Computer? Holy freaking crap, did you see that their baby's burst out? Of that Spaceburp's back.

41:15 Then they started running around the ship shooting insemination. Go to everybody like freaking multiple makes from silence on the lambs? Do I admit for a moment that baby Gorn was kind of adorable until it started champing people's necks like baby Yoda in need of an exorcist. I can't even believe what I'm seeing. It's like, omg oh, my Gorn. These are not the same Gorny's that Keptain Kirk fot this. He is not even in the same freaking ballpark. It's it's spawn of Satan. Maybe kirk'scorne was older, like a lot older, like some sort of centennarian, geriatric geezer Gorn. I'm talking nursing home cryptkeeper Gorn, the type of Gordon who gets birthday shoutouts from Willard Scott at the Today Show. I'm talking old, shaky hands, take away his driver's license. He's a danger to himself and the community type Gorn. You know what this means. It means.

42:22 For the past week, Captain Kirk has been openly bragging about committing senior abuse, and not only did he beat up on the Benny White of Gorns, but he shot it with a freaking rocket launcher. Bubbo. You should have seen it. I made this rocket launch with wheat, nothing but my Wheat's big deal. All the ingredients were laying right there, not exactly the world's hardest puzzle. Just PLoP them in and light the fuse. Talk to me when you've built an Ike addresser. Not that he needed to blast that poor old woking dinosaur fossil two more minutes and it would have died of natural causes. I mean, come on, that old Gorn was so windied and exhausted. You saw the way he was swinging his arms. Ah kirksto in his karate chopping. And meanwhile, this poor old pension their Gorn is moving like he's broken, swinging his arms like some sort of old lady jazzer sizing in a rec center pool. Also, unlike Pike's terrifying Gorn, Kirk's over the hill Gorn had these shiny disco ball eyes.

43:25 I think he had cataracts. Yep. The captain violently assaulted an elderly. Legally blind Gorn who was just one fall away from a Rascal mobility scooter and three PM yellow dinners, and then spent a week bragging about it like he just chaoed Ivan Drago. Suddenly everything that captain has ever said is called in the question was he really born in Iowa or in a shuttlecraft in deep space? And is he really the only one who calls his brother George Sam? Or does literally everybody called George Sam? And his signature blonde hair? Is that even real or just a wig? He spoke from the ship's hair and makeup department. Working Kate Andrey Weig Babo check out famously more ladies wig for his first six or seven missions.

44:09 Shut up, computer this He's totally my real hair. All right there, you guys have it now. You got to see it. So what do you think, Paul did any snail it? Did you do a good job? Great stuff? Man, it's very funny. I think you've you've rupped your production values like a quantum level. Man. I mean, it's just hysterical. I just like you. You moved it at a really good fast clip, which is what I like, right, I mean to me, it's just like it really lends itself as you just got you know, references and punchlines, you know, machine gun style, one after the other. So it's just a hilarious ginty iguana wearing lingerie.

45:02 I mean, yes, wearing shiny lingerie. This is some great stick man. So I thoroughly enjoyed it, very very funny, and I just loved loved all the popping out, like multiple megs. Check Off really knows his pop. He's got a lot of references. Like really, man, he's on Instagram all day long, he's picking up this stuff meme Lord and some checkof. So now, well else. Gets that multiple Megs reference. I'm sorry, yeah, I'm if.

45:42 They don't get it really missing. No, it is really fun, So thanks thanks for sharing. That was great, very thank you. Yeah, what about you, David? What'd you think about it? Did you like it? David David? I think David's muted. I really enjoyed it. It was really fun. I especially liked when the O and G. I never for some reason got that connection with the Goring. I actually when I worked at Creation for a little while, I got them to create a shirt because I was their go to star trek merch guy, and I would often suggest ideas for shirts and omg is a shirt, omg, oh my gorn is one that I suggested to them and they actually made them up. I don't know if they still sell them or not, but they made him up while I was there.

46:38 Cool. Yeah, it was really goot. I enjoyed it. Thank you for sharing. Thank you. Yeah, I should have I forgot the intro. This part of my resume was was the jump from promoting the book to doing trek sketches. Basically, I think COVID happened. I was locked indoors, I was bored, and I missed acting as well. So I decided I had had a friend. I have a friend on Instagram who does these restaurant bistro on Instagram, and he does because he works at a restaurant, or at least he used to. He might not anymore, but he started doing sketch comedy based on what he knew, which was working at a restaurant, and became very popular and very funny. So I thought, you know, I love doing sketch comedy. I trained at the Groundlings.

47:25 I used to do sketch comedy on stage. I used to do back when YouTube was a new thing. I did some sketch comedy on that when I thought watching video on your computer this I'll never take off and then shows me why I'm not a millionaire. But I missed acting, and I missed writing sketches, and I missed performing sketches. So I thought, I want to start doing sketch comedy. But I don't want to just do general sketch comedy. I want to do something that I feel like I can directly speak to. And then I've got a well of stuff that I can just churn up and create. And so I thought Star Trek. I'm a big old Star Trek nerd. I love Star Trek to death.

48:05 Why don't I start doing a Star Trek sketch comedy. And I think about the same time, Lower Decks was just coming into being, and so they were proved positive that you could do a very comedic spin on Star Trek. And there's so much in the Star Trek universe. I mean, I've done sketches with Chekhov, but I've also done sketches with Starship Builders, one called Starship Prepare, which is all about the poor slubs wearing yellow helmets who have to repair the enterprise every time it gets destroyed or almost destroyed. I did a sketch called kling On Vacation about a married bickering couple on Kronos, and then I've done sketches about first contact gone wrong because of two of Country Bumpkins, and I did a sketch in the Calvin Universe about lens flares. My most recent one was a check off version of Christmas Vacation, So and I know this one is Uncle Jim's favorite, probably because and like Paul, you were saying that you were complimenting my my pacing and and everything. That's one thing I've been I really enjoy about doing this is each time I do it, and I'm not trying toot my own horn because I look back up the earlier ones. I'm like, h But one of the benefits of doing something more than once is you get better at it. And so I've gotten better at editing, I've gotten better at writing, I've gotten better at green screen and even like little things like photoshopping, like in this sketch you can see the the different

49:38 kind of stuff stuff that I started with In the first check Off Christmas special, I started kind of playing around with doing cutaway still images with lots of funny stuff in it, and this one I really got to really perfect that with the driver's license, which was a lot of work, but I think turned out really well. And with. Kirk wearing his Gorn Star t shirt and with girls and with check Off in the boiler room, and that to me is some of the most fun I have doing these sketches. I really enjoy the writing process. I really enjoy the acting process, although that's kind of the most nerve wracking because then the director in me is never satisfied with the actor in me. But my favorite part is the editing process. And part of that process is the putting together the images, building those either whether it's video images or building those still images. And then the video image is something I started getting better at with lens flares and then Christmas Vacation where I actually put in that one. There is a burning fireplace in the middle of Chekhov's quarters and I figured out how to do that, And so for my money, that's that's probably the most fun I have doing these, is just figuring out how to get better each time and just what I can tweak about the process.

50:57 Andy, are you working on any new truck sketches that you can give us some input on a little teaser I have. I've got a bunch of them written and ready to go. But of you guys know, I've I went back to school. I'm at etsu East Tennessee State University studying to become a teacher, and so that has taken up a lot of my time. And in this summer I go, I graduate. This spring, I get my BA, and then I go straight into the master's program. So I am going to be neck deep in schooling. But I have written some stuff, and I'm just as soon as I find the time to film it and as soon as I get rid of some non checkoff attire. I've got a check off one loaded up. I've got a couple of checkof ones.

51:44 I've got one where he's doing balloon animals. I'm not satisfied with that one yet, so that one might need to be reworked. That's one of the tricks to these is to just not just writing it, but rewriting it, and rewriting it and rewriting it and polish it it and stepping away for a month and then coming back and seeing, oh God, that joke is awful, Oh that joke doesn't land, Oh that one's not bad, and then polishing it and polishing and polishing it until I get a script that it's like, ooh, I'm ready to shoot this, And I've got a couple that I'm sort of ready on. There's one called twelve Angry Cues, which is all about we saw the courtroom in an encounter at farpoint. We saw the outcome of the trial of Humanity, but we didn't see the jury deliberation. So I'm going to do the twelve Cues in the jury room deciding the fate of Humanity. Then that's going to be a challenge because that I'm going to be playing twelve plus parts in that.

52:44 The checkoff Christmas Vacation one, I played a lot of parts, but nowhere near this many parts, So that's going to be a little bit of a challenge. And then I've got another check off one that I'm super excited about. It doesn't quite have a name yet. I've gone back and forth with a couple of names, but it's kind of check off Searches for Spock or Chekov Search for Spock, and it has to do with the events of Search for Spock and sometime travel. We get to see movie era Chekov interacting with ts eras checkof but it doesn't go as he might have hoped. And I won't give away the big reveal on that, but I think you guys will get a kick out of it. And it's also what's holding me up on that one. And you'll know what I what I mean when I when I premiere it. And then I've got another one that that is not yet written, but it's just a brain child.

53:41 I want to. I want to revisit the married couple, the bickering married couple who went to Kronos, and this time I want to take them to Kardassia Prime. And then if you, if you remember what happened to the husband Gary in that one, things did work out too well. From he he was not enjoying Kronos as much as his wife, and and Kardasia Prime proves to be less appealing to him. I mean, think, think Picard, think Miles of Brian, and then you'll get an idea where that one's headed. Are we are we gonna get to see your son and any more of these like we did in the Chekhov's Christmas, Well.

54:21 We we might, we might. I could always bring back Anton Chekhov. I've promised my other son that he's gonna be in one of them, so he's probably gonna be in the twelve Angry Cues as in as a child Q. A child Q interesting? So what man, you just love editing? That's gonna be It is gonna be. Yeah, I know, I know. I'm really setting myself up for that one. I mean, and it's not just twelve qu's. There's gonna be some rotation going on and then some other stuff. So it's gonna be a lot. I mean, just the costuming alone and the kind of hair and makeup and then the setups. I'm gonna have to storyboard that one because I had when I did the checkof one with the checkoff's mom and his dad and his cousin Ediski.

55:16 I had to figure out how to shoot it so that the eye lines would all make sense. So it's like, okay, I'm Pavo, Now I gotta look this way when I'm talking to my dad, this way when I'm talking to my mom, and this way when I'm talking to cousin Edisky, and this way when I'm talking to Anton, and then remember all that and then figure out, okay, well, if Pavo's standing here now when I'm playing Papa check off, I'm here, So now we're all my eye lines. And I had to put up little pieces of tape around my office and then try to remember all that. And then the real challenging was was shooting the big wide shot for that one so that I could have all the checkofs standing next to each other, and then timing it so that, okay, now Pavo leaves, now the Mom leaves, now the Dan leaves, and able to put it all together so that it all works in the scene that here they are all standing next to each other, and here they are, you know, these two leaving, and now this one leaving, and now this one leaving, and then it all works, and that's gonna be a lot of twelve angry cue. Although I discovered some things in shooting that I figured out how to take a green screen of just myself in one shot, a second shot of me is another character and put them in the same shot so that I can actually interact in one shot without having to cut back and forth. That was weird.

56:32 Doud anyone else see balloons? Yeah, I'm seeing balloons here. I wonder if I said something that sat off. I don't know what the hell that was balloon generating. I think I know the answer to this, Andy, but I'm gonna ask you anyway, how much of your humor do you use when you're a teacher. I want to use some of the time. I mean, I want to be able to be personable with the students and to be you know, at the same time, I want to talk, use my experience, use my my my age and I know how and be the more mature person in the room with a bunch of teenagers.

57:20 But I do want to be personable, and I do want to uh talk to them on a level that's not condescending, and that's also not too aloof and far removed that they're just bored out of their minds. Because my goal is to be a theater teacher. I'm also minoring in English. I can teach English too, but theater is something I'm passionate about and that I love and that's fun for me, so it should be fun for them as well. And I want to be able to talk to them in an excited way about it and and and in the you know, a funny way that is appropriate, but but fun and engaging. It's probably. I think you should follow those instincts man, because I mean there's just most students, right, especially like in performing arts. There, I was like, oh, it's gonna be some guy who abstractly knows the theater but doesn't doesn't act themselves right, and it's gonna be trying to tell us what to do right. And then they they're their wish is that they get somebody who actually is funny and who performs right, because then they got rapport and they'll go anywhere you take them.

58:18 Man, So. You'll be great. I can just I think you'll you just seem like you would be a phenomenal theater teacher. Thank you well. One of the angles I want to take with them as well as is, you know the the don't do what I did and I learned from my mistakes how I failed out of Hollywood, and you know, make it because it's one of the things as an actor when you go into auditions and it's like, oh my god, my entire life is on the line and you bring it up to this level. And I did that so many times. And it's better if if you just I want to take the gas out of it and make it. You know you're gonna fail, You're gonna screw up. You're gonna have bad auditions. Every comedian who goes on stage says the best thing for a stand up comedian is to bomb, because then they see it's not the end of the world. They bomb, they get booed, they have a horrible set, and life goes on. And it's the same thing with auditioning. I auditioned for jj Abrams Star Trek because of the New Voyages, the fan film I did.

59:24 I had tape of myself playing Checkof, and I didn't audition for Checkoff. She had already cast Anton. He was the first person she casts. Even before she started casting, she had him in mind. So I never had a chance at Checkof. And I was too old for what they were looking for at that point. Anyways. I think I was twenty five at that point, so old in Hollywood. But I had because it's Star Trek, and I love Star Trek so much, and because it's big budget, and because it's it's paramount. Walking onto the lot and seeing the blue parking lot and where they shot Star Trek for the whale back drop and the and walking into her office, and I had gotten myself so wound up and wanted it so bad. And that's the thing. You never should walk into an audition wanting it, even when you want it. You shouldn't walk into an audition wanting it.

1:00:13 You just do your best and you move on to the next one. And she was on my side too. April Webster was the casting director, and as soon as I walked in, because I had sent her tape of me, and I'd sent her tape of George Walter endorsing me, and so when I walked in, she recognized me and she started speaking to me with a Russian accent, which is that should have been a huge weight off my shoulder instead, then she said something that's suddenly like the weights dropped right back on my shoulder. She said, ah, but you cut your hair off because I no longer had the check off too. I had cut it short because I had finished doing new voyages. And as soon as she said that, I went, no, what have I done?

1:00:57 Anxiety? And then I was in my head and then I but still she was friendly as could be, and then she gave me the script, which I had done the right thing. I showed up early to the audition so I could take this the sides outside because I didn't know what they were. They didn't give them ahead of time, and it wasn't anything from the movie. It was I think they had pulled it from old Star Trek episodes and it was just like Shielded seventy percent kind of stuff. But I had taken the time to study it and then go and sign in and familiarize myself with it. But as soon as she said that, I started getting in my head. And then I looked at the camera and then thought, wait, should I look at the camera or should I look at her? Oh god, I should ask her. But I shouldn't ask her because if I ask her, she's gonna think, who is this amateur asking me where he should look? And so I said, I'll just look at the camera. And then I suddenly thought, oh my god, I'm looking straight at the camera. This is all wrong, and I'm doing my audition. And now it was probably fine, but in my head, I was just awful, ripped, and I killed myself in that audition.

1:01:57 And I didn't get the part. Surprisingly, But that's the other thing. I may not have gotten the part for any number of reasons. I may have been too short, I may have looked too young. I mean I was twenty five then I'm sure I looked like I was fifteen. And if I had had the hair, maybe they had put me. They would have put me in the back and just so you know, you could have that sixties hair in the background, just for like an Easter egg. But I had stupidly said no to doing background work because they asked on the sign and sheet. I was like, of course not, I'm mono only dude, if I have rules, I need lines to be on camera. And then of course I kicked myself ever since or doing that. But I might have just been too short, or it might have been my thirteen year old sounding voice that didn't get me the part.

1:02:50 So or maybe there's a bunch of theater students out there two years in the future who were really needing you, right, and they you haven't met them yet, right, So. A lot of reasons, brother, they get them into Star Trek fourteen. So but but that's the kind of thing, and that's the kind of approach I'd like to take to teaching acting. Is like that, you know, it's it's fun, it's great, but it's not the end of the world. The important part is that you enjoy it. And here's how I screwed up, you know, on any number of occasions. And there's is time I stared at Jim Carrey for too long, the time I nearly lost my ship, meeting Steven Spielberg, and any number of embarrassing stories that I'd like to share with them.

1:03:40 Andy, do you have any plans of coming back up the ty Kona Roga to the original set tour. I haven't been invited yet. I don't know James Cawley wants to invite me. I don't think he loved how I depicted him in the book, and I think that might be part of the reason. Although I've heard it from a number of sources, the way John and I depicted him, we were told by people who were there, it's like, don't let anybody say anything. That's the way it was. So he wasn't brought he didn't come off super flattering. But I think it was a realistic portrayal, and we've been told by other people that it was a realistic portrayal. But that might be keeping me from getting invited up there.

1:04:24 Well, I'll have to talk to him. Well, I don't mention the book. I go up there Jim's gonna go up there like Tony Soprano. You gotta get any back here. Eric invited me, I'd be happy to go up there. You know all the pictures you saw during the fan shout outs. Eric was up there with me a couple of years ago, and we had a lot of fun, a lot of fun. Yeah, it's a little bit of a of a hike to get up there from Tennessee, but I wouldn't mind doing it. Well, it is from here too, but it is fun. It is an experience for sure. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I'm sure my dad would get a kick out of seeing my family, my boys.

1:05:08 Yeah. I just wanted to jump in. I want to jump in and talk to Andy about saying about the fact. I remember that show, and I remember who all was on there, but we were we were sitting there, it's like, okay, we've got the just we've got the Strange day World's Gorn, we got the tars Gorn. It's like how had be to the same gorn. And we sat there and gain it and we started debating. It, and it was. Well, I was just gonna say my theory. I don't know if you were about to say that, but My theory was that there's different species of Gordon on the same planet.

1:05:52 Yes, that was weird, that's hard. That was that podcast, and that was we were debating about how they were different Goren. It was like, it's either different Gorn or an older Gorn. How are they? How is Straaser World so different from tos And it was just funny that you took that whole idea and made a skin out of it. Well, well, I mean, you guys had had me on to discuss the Gorn and this was before the second Gorn episode of Strange in the World. This was just after the baby Gorn episode, and this was before we got adolescent spacesuit Gorn. But yeah, you guys had me on and that was my two cents. But then you also asked Checkof for his two cents, and old check Off his very opinion. He has a lot of time to just game and think about things in the broiler room, and so he really let Kirk have it because he it was news to him that there are scary Gorn out there. He thought all the Gorn were just really slow moving elderly Gorn. And so that was a fun little improvised I mean, I had some notes, but mostly improvised check off, check in, and and yeah, and then I forget which one of you said I should turn it into a sketch, and I just got to thinking about it. That would be a fun sketch. And I know Uncle Jim loves and I saw him laughing at it down started shaking like his house was falling into the ground.

1:07:15 That's just that's one of the best. When I'm watching it, I'm remembering the conversations that we had on the podcast, and then I'm seeing it on screen. You know, it's it's it's great. It's great. You know when you talk about something and then all of a sudden someone brings it to life, you know. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool actually. So I also the other reason why I wanted to have you on Andy is we're still waiting for Strange New World. It's been what two years, Paul, I know, it's been a long time. Something like that. Yeah, you know, but I mean they're cranking up season four now. They even started season three, Aaron, So I mean, it's good. It'll be around, right, so I have something to look forward to.

1:07:58 So we're waiting to find out how Pike escapes the Gorn so maybe we'll see another Gorn skit. Who knows. Oh, you know, they'll be in the first episode because the last season had such a cliffhanger with the Gorn, right, they gotta have that being there. Maybe we'll see the adult. Yeah, maybe they get this version of their metallic lingerie. Maybe we'll get that, right, Yeah, maybe the same thing that happened to the Gorn to make them different on this show. It's the same thing that you know that happened to like the old school tos Klingons and the Ridgeheads from you know, Next Gen maybe mutation. Right, So they just stopped taking their medicine and the room.

1:08:40 Stop taking them at Foreman, Man, you're gonna you know, your insulin is gonna go crazy. So you gotta just. August twenty August twenty twenty three that we saw our last Strange World a year and a half. Wow, I'm sure the same, may Or June. That's what I'm That's what I'm predicting, right, And I think. The reason why they're they're filming four already is because I think they want season four going for the sixtieth anniversary. I'm sure they're going to have a sixtieth episode. I was just rewatching flashback, uh, and I was thinking about, Wow, now that we've got Star Trek on the air again, we could have a sixtieth anniversary episode of Strange the Worlds and maybe a sixtieth anniversary of a Starfleet Academy.

1:09:24 What do you think of the episode? When they did they brought over the Strange World cats and they did the merge right with lower decks or no, you were about the lower decks guys onto scient episode. I thought that was amazing. It was so well done. They did a great job. I love lower decks. Lower Decks to me is just such great. Not only is it such inside jokes, like so so deep in the grass kind of jokes like for US hardcore fans, but it's so filled with love for Star Trek. Well at the same time being very funny and very entertaining and strange New world I think is just brilliance and I'm in retro, but also it feels fresh and new and they are just so ballsy.

1:10:09 They swing for the fences and they take chances like no trick I've ever seen take chances. I mean, certainly you know, chance to dump on Berman a little bit, but Berman, what would never allow these kind of chances that they take. You do a musical episode, right, no way, no way? And and Strange New Worlds just the fact that they're willing to go there, and so far it's all landed as just icing on the cake. Absolutely, and I'm looking forward to the Gorn. I want to see Pavel check Off show up on on Strange New Worlds and deal with the Gorn the right way. To do it. I thought you were going to ask for Pavel to show up here. I was gonna get ready to shout for him.

1:10:55 If he's in the vicinity, he's uh, he's in the boiler room. Do you want me to check? See? Is he there? Is he around? Bababo's the guys, you know what? He might have his headphones on. Let me let me let me go check and see if I'm mean, find the guys. No, not the Backstreet boy, the guys. Yeah, you remember to tell you about the door and all that. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, those guys change. There's guys you know.

1:11:36 Oh, my hair is a little messed up today. Oh it was all over the places. I didn't know you were a member of Spinal Tap. Absolutely, Spinal tap. Is Life's a Russian band. Absolutely everyone knows spinal Tapping was a Russian in Winted, Russian in Winch, and it was in Winted by a little lady with a really long needle. So, Paula, what do you think about the gorn? Oh, the gorns? Is it the gorn? The gorns is the Gornsey's the Gourn? I think it's even remember how it goes the gorn. Oh, they're very I mean, if you hear Captain Kirk saying they're very fearsome. But as we both know, his gorn was like ready to start accepting social security. I think I saw his gorn in line at AARP trying to get a subscription. I assume there's a line for that. I don't know. I'm not old enough yet. He's gorn. It takes out false teeth and puts it in a jar next to where it sleeps.

1:12:40 And then Captain Pike's gorne. Did you see those things? Oh, my goodness, gracious rushing devil. Those things are like the little Grimlins from Grimlins if they were scary. Ooh, well, it's too bad that mister Sulhu wasn't there with you. You knows what the auto tune a little bit. I didn't quite catch that. Yeah, your buddy, who's my buddy? Sulu? Oh right, Sula, Sul Sulu, Sulu Sulu, mister, Oh Pablo, La la la la la, oh Pablo. Look at the picture of my daughter. Isn't she the most precious thing?

1:13:24 Ever? One day she'll be a helmsman like her papa. Oh, give me a break. Like having kids as difficult. Captain Kirk has one. He doesn't even visit the thing. Anyone can have children's but oh you hear Suel talk about it all. Look at the picture of my daughter. Isn't she so precious? Okay, we get it already. I don't think Sulo would have helped with the garden anyways. Well he might have. He has a sword. Actually, that would have been really useful. I take it back. I should have had the captain helping him him out. It might have turned out differently. Absolutely. Instead of running around the desert looking for pebbles to stick inside a little what would you call that, like a tube, like a half tube, Like instead of putting dirt in a tube, we had to just stabbed the guy in his his his eyes, his crystal ball disco eyes. What's with that? Anyways? How can you see that that?

1:14:25 He's like spider eyes on a lizard? Whoever saw that on the lizard and anything? That's how he would have beat Kirk. I think if looking into the sun it would have blinded him. It would have been like multiple flashlights just shooting out of his eyes right into the Kipten's eyes. He should have done that, It wasn't in the script. No. By the way, you guys liking this stink. Facial hair definitely goes up to eleven. Yeah, it's got have a princess bride thing going on, is what I'm kept from it?

1:15:07 Right? Oh? Yes, Well, I I did this because we were having Porthos Day on the Enterprise, and and I thought it was about one of the three Musketeers and said he was about the Archer's Prize Eagle. So I show up looking like a jerk. Of course, Sulu laughing his ass off. He knew the whole time, and he didn't say anything. He let me grow out this facial disaster, and he never said a word. That's irresponsible. Instead I walk in and say, oh damn youel Sulu.

1:15:51 Every day with Sulu is like a prank show on the Enterprise. Poor guy, poor guy. Well, I think it's uh, you may have the upper hand though, Checkov, because we've seen into the future and I don't think Sulu ever makes admiral, but I think you do if I remember correctly. Well, there you go. Absolutely, I'm all for that. Take that tea car. Also correctly, Uh, your son becomes president of the Federation as well, so he doesn't even need to be a helmsman. Nice and I'm happy to be the hanger on dad, the really old man just walking around the the what is it like a Federation white house?

1:16:36 What? What? What would they have the Federation white House. We'll just call it that in Paris, France, and maybe it's in the Eiffel Tower. I'm gonna assume that's where the President of the Federation leads at the very teep of the Eiffel Tower. Now, I'll just be in my bathrobe and my slippers walking around saying, hey, preis son, how's it going, you know, bathrobe slapping around because I'm old and I don't care. And then he's he has to work, worry with all this stuff that's going on, Like oh no, the borg are taking over all the young kids and killing off the sheeps. Someone call an old man, and I'm gonna say, no way, I'm retired. I'm just gonna watch my soap operas. That's the plan, anyways. Now that's a good plan. That's a really good plan.

1:17:20 I hope. I mean, we'll see. Who knows if it'll actually happen. Well, we can wish, we can hope. It sounds believable enough. I like it. I think it. I think it'd be a good deal, be a good truck sketch, definitely. I don't know what I'm doing with these hair is out of control. Today. I'm trying to decide who I look. Do I look like Jamie Farr? If I put on a dress, would I look like Jamie Farr? You could be looked like one of the Gornsey's and they're a. Little ingerie that that would be fun. That's what I'm gonna wear when my son is president. I'll just walk around in shiny lingerie. And it's like, hey, I'm old, I'm senile. What what can I do? You can't be upset with me? I'm where am I the top of the Eiffel Tower I'm confused. This is all very new and strange to me.

1:18:19 I heard shy Lingerie's a Russian inns. Was invented by a very fancy lady from Leningrad. Oh boy, Well, as usual, we have a we have a fun time checking in with Checkov. Absolutely, it's always fun to catch up with Chekov. And was in a boiler room just shoveling coal. This is kind of my one release. I wish they would let me go back to the navigation station. But until then, I shovel the coal, and I shoveled the coal, and I shovel the coal, and I swear to God, I don't think starships use cold, but they have me shoveling it anyways, And thank you guys for letting me get out of there, even for a brief moment.

1:19:09 Anytime check off, You're always welcome on trek talking buddy. Don't send me back, don't let me go back there. I won't go back. I won't go back. And I get sweat stains and my mustache keeps lighting on fire so bad. It's so bad in there. Someone's gotta do it. I guess, at least I have these, said the Alpha five worms I put in my ear, it makes me forget everything. Don't worry. We'll get you some. Oh that'll be perfect. Ah, all right, well I'm gonna go now. I've got some shiny lingerie I'm gonna put on, and I'm gonna wander into the boiler room because I don't know where I am right now because as in the worms are wrapping around my cerebral cortex.

1:20:06 Take it, bye, guys, checking in with Checkov. What a guy gotta go shovel at coal for Captain Kirk. I hope he doesn't keep Andy down there with him. I mean, Andy's kind of a nice guy. I'm not sure. Yeah, okay, Wow, worried you were stuck in the boiler room. We thought you'd be shoveling coal with Pavel. Luckily I stay out of the boiler room. It's hot in there and it smells like Russian ass. So I behind him. He just had me hold his shovel by the door. That's like one cass.

1:20:46 It kind of you if you if you ever boiled vodka until it just disappears into nothing and like that. Oh boy, Well, well, Andy, we had a lot of fun talking with you tonight, and I really enjoyed revisiting the Goran sketch. That is actually one of my favorites. I love that skit, Thank you, Thank You. I have blast as well. I think it's fantastic, one of the best, although the Christmas Vacation one, that one's really funny too, thank you. That one's my personal favorite. But like I said, each one I can see where I've gotten better, and so I've got like there's pride in it as it goes along.

1:21:30 I'm sure the next one out at least that's the goal. I want to surpass each one with the newest one. And so when I when I feel like I've done that, I feel like I put a feather in my cap. And so that right now is my favorite one. And it's got my son in it, and it's got check Off and Checkoff's parents. So I had a blast doing that one too. So if anyone wants to check it out, check out check Off Christmas Vacation. You can go see him on my YouTube channel that's at the Andy Bray on YouTube. I'm also on Facebook at the Andy Bray. I'm on Twitter, Instagram, Blue Sky Threads at the Andy Bray, and I've got stuff there but probably just jumping onto YouTube for them. You can find them all there, all my Trek sketches, and I have a blast making them, and so I just I love putting them out there for other Star Trek fans to find and discover and just maybe have a blast watching them too, because it's just it's goofy Star Trek stuff that makes me laugh, and I hope it makes y'all laugh too.

1:22:31 Now, when you premiere your next one, I hope we're going to be right there on your list and we can experience it together now that we have this new video format. In fact, I was thinking about that. I thought it might be fun, and I mean, this is a while down the road. I don't know when I'm gonna get a film it, but I could probably. I know that YouTube allows you to launch videos first as a as a share link only thing, so I thought I could possibly premiere my next Trek sketches exclusively on this show and make this show the only place you can watch it for about a week or so before it premiere is worldwide, So that might be.

1:23:16 So what do you think? What do you think about this new the new studio and the new format, And you like it better than the old one. I do, I do. I mean, I have to put clothes on for this one. But I do enjoy getting to see you guys, and I like being able to to when I do premiere a sketch not have to explain the visual gags that nobody can see. That one was way better with video, by the way. Yeah for sure. Wow, when you just listen to. The audio, there are those moments when you're doing just the visual gag and there's just silence. Totally. I know something cool is happening right now, but I'm not sure what.

1:24:00 Now. You can see it live? Is it live or is it memory? X. So I'm looking forward to the next Trek skit, Andy, And you're always welcome here. You're part of the Trek Talking family. Thank you, appreciated. I always he is ready. We'll get you on here. And anytime, anytime you have some free time, when we get new Star Trek and you want to come on with us and chat about the new episode, you're always welcome to do that with us as well. Well. Certainly, once Strange New Worlds comes back, we got to talk about them garn some more. Yeah, yeah, definitely for that. Yeah, well, well, i'll get you a link and you can join us when when it premieres, Like I think Paul's right, I think June May or June.

1:24:41 That feels right. That's what it's mostly premiered. I think is the last couple of scenes. I think premiered in May, because I remember I made that sketch with the goal of premiering it in time for a May release, because that's when that second season came out, was May, and I think that had mirrored the first season, which also came out in May. So I kind of had a rough idea when I started making that one of when it would come out. I don't know if they'd announced it yet. Well, at any rate, Andy, we'd love to have you back on again. You're always welcome here. And I really enjoyed the Gorn sketch. I thought it was you know, I was still laughing my ass off. It was that funny.

1:25:23 I really enjoyed it. And enjoyed too because on the old show, you guys will mute it, so I don't hear any laughter, and it's just crickets the entire sketch. People my voice. I hear my dying right now. I can't tell. All that anxiety, April Webster, it's all coming back here. While each of you muted yourself, I was like, great, there goes the laugh track. I could see. All right, next premiere will leave the audio on. I like that idea. Yeah, the laugh track. That's good. Yeah, we'll be the laugh track on the next one.

1:26:07 And now nobody will laugh the next one. Yeah, what happened to the Gornsey's? Are the Gorners or their girn that's it? All right? Well, thank you so much, Andy, We appreciate it, and you're always welcome. Have a good one, live long and project care man. All right, guys, that was the Andy Bray. Please head over to his Facebook page, to his Instagram page, anywhere and check out the Trek sketches. And with that, it's time for our Star Trek Birthdays. Laur that was not a Clinton song, Okay. Every week we start off our Star Trek Birthdays by remembering those members of our Star Trek family who, sadly enough, final longer with us, and for that we turned to Eric.

1:27:20 Yeah, Jim. This week we're going to remember six members of our Star Trek community who have gone before us. The first is actor Lawrence Tierney. Lawrence Tierney was the actor who appeared as Cyrus Redblock in the Next Generation first season episode The Big Goodbye. He also played the Regent of Palomar in the Deep Space nine fifth season episode Business as Usual. You can see his face there. You probably recognize him as mostly being known for playing tough guy roles throughout the nineteen forties, primarily mobsters and hardened criminals. Star Trek of course, kept him right there. He first acquired recognition for his portrayal of the vicious gangster John Dellinger in The Night teen forty five film Dillinger, and that actually sort of type casting really reduced him to only being able to play those roles, which was unfortunate.

1:28:13 And then he had some personal stuff happen where he had some well publicized off screen brushes with the law, and those altercations damaged his career and he just you know, was pretty limited in what he could do along the way. But I will say that he was an excellent bad guy and excellent gangster. Some real talent in there. And Lawrence Tierney would have had a birthday just March fifteenth. He was born in the year nineteen nineteen we lost him back in two thousand and two. Happy Birthday, Lawrence Tierney, Happy birthday as well to Walter Jack Gotel. He's the actor who portrayed Kurt Mandel in the Next Generation first season episode Home Soil. He was born in Bond, Germany, and his most famous role was playing the part of General Gogel, the head of the KGB, in six film of the James Bond series from nineteen seventy seven to nineteen eighty seven. He also played a supporting role in the nineteen eighty four mini series The Scarlet and the Black as the.

1:29:10 S S General Max Helm. So you know, also maybe a little bit typecast during his days, but he did also get to show up on The X Files back in the day in the season three episode The paper Clip, of Course, playing an ex Nazi scientist Victor Klemper. So talented actor typecast A little bit lost him back in nineteen ninety seven. Walter Jack gotew would have had a birthday also on March fifteenth. Happy Birthday. Happy birthday as well to Norman Stewart. He's the actor who played a Vulcan culinar master in Star Trek the motion picture. This film is his last known on screen appearance, and he had just a couple of others.

1:29:54 In the late sixties. He was in Ice Station, Zebra and Point Blank from nineteen sixty seven. He worked beside on screen acting His excuse me. He worked beside his on screen acting career primarily as a dialogue coach and supervisor in the film business, so a lot of behind the scenes stuff. Norman Stewart aged eighty nine years old back in nineteen ninety eight when I had a birthday on March sixteenth. Happy Birthday, Norman, Happy Birthday. As well to Tig Andrews, the actor who played the Klingon Cross in the TOS second season episode Friday's Child, the pre bumpy Headed Klingons. Andrews had about a dozen movie roles and fifty television guest appearances to his credit, but he's probably best known for his Emmy Award and Golden Globe nominated regular role as police Captain Adam Greer on The Mod Squad, starring plenty of other star Trek folks, including Clarence Williams. The third who we are going to talk about in more detail in a future show. He is of Syrian descent and was a graduate of the American of Dramatic Arts School in New York. And his television career was kind of all over the place, like I said, fifty television guest star appearances, so you can actually see his face show up quite a bit in shows from the fifties and sixties and even into the eighties. And he eventually retired in nineteen ninety after guest starring in

1:31:24 an episode of Murder. She wrote, So Tig Andrews, Happy birthday to him birthday March nineteenth, nineteen twenty. Happy birthday as well to Jim hagen Beggs if people know him has Hagen. He was a North Irish born Canadian actor, and his acting career began with the appearance as Hanson in the first three season the first season episode of Star Trek. He later appeared in small parts in several other television series, including Poltergeist, The Legacy, Millennium and Seven Days. Appeared in several movies along the way, including nineteen ninety six's version of The Titanic as well. So Hagen Beggs born March nineteenth, nineteen thirty seven lost back in twenty sixteen, Happy Birthday to him, and last but not least on my remembrance list. This week, we're remembering actress Karen Steele.

1:32:20 She's the Hawaiian born model turned actress whose career ran from the early nineteen fifties to the early nineteen seventies. She played Eve Mikuron in the TOS first season episode MUDs Women. You probably recognize her face there. She's a former cover girl and model and was one of the most strikingly beautiful actresses to ever work in film and television by some people's standards. She made sixteen movies, the most famous of which is probably Marty from nineteen fifty five, and about fifty television guest appearances, usually playing tough, hard boiled characters, believe it or not. Like many actresses, as she got older, she turned to television commercials for income and eventually became involved in charitable causes and community service. Unfortunately, we lost her to cancer back in nineteen eighty eight.

1:33:10 Her birthday is March twentieth, nineteen thirty one. Happy birthday to actress Karen Steele. Now, you guys does it for our remembrances this week, So I'm going to pass this flaming birthday candle over to. Charles, Thank you, Eric, I got quite a few to go through. Let's start off with a Happy birthday to Penny Johnson Gerald, actress who played Cassidy Yates and DS nine and Gobora and TG's seven season episode Homeward. Jim just popped in, but I guess we could still mention the fact that she was in an other sci fi show that we were in someone enjoying back on Fox.

1:34:00 Happy birthday to kat Sawyer, young actress who played Karina in Star Trek Vages six season episode blank Of and I. Havy Birthday Jacqueline Schultz, who. Played Jessica Sloan in DS nine seven season episode Extreme Measure. Happy birthday to Anna Katrina Swiss, actress who played Vendida Ennis in TG's fre season episode Avon. This was her first te television appearance see later. She later played a Vulcan scientist council member in Star Trek. Happy birthday to Abby Bremmel, actress would played Perseus in Star Trek Enterprises four season episode Borderland, Cold Station twelve and Augment Yes.

1:35:02 Happy birthday to Vanessa Williams, singer and actress who played Aaron Horndus in DS nine's fifty is an episode he who Is Without Sin? Then I got left with a couple of big birthdays. This actor comes from Walla, Washington. Best known for playing Commander Charles Tucker, the Third on Star Trek Enterprise. He received two Saturn Award nominations for his Academy Award in Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Film transformance as Tucker. A very happy birthday to Connortonier and last on my list, I want to talk about this guy and another show. Happy birthday and from when I think I read happy birthday and Happy anniversary to John d.

1:35:59 Lands See, American actress, director, producer, writer, educator, sailor, voice, actor, artist, and comedian best known for playing Q in Startup, Connect Generation, Deep Space nine, Voyager, Lower Decks and Bricard. So many do you wanna? Do you want to hear my John Delancy story? Sure? Absolutely, I got to. I got to pee next to him in a bathroom once. Yeah, that that sounds I was to him. We are now awaited and.

1:36:45 It's Eric has never washed his pants since. Never. Never, Just in case there was a little Delancey splash on there. I've I have seen him on on panels many times. I still think the most memorable panel I saw was Q and Q two on stage, and those two were just a funny pair to see. But John had just done so much. So much great work with Q. He just he got that character, and I think I'm not sure if they ever thought about actually playing him so many times, but yet he just was over and over as an Emesis too, Percard and the Enterprise. And definitely have very special birthday to John. And now I'll take this flaming candle and pause, pass it over to Paul.

1:37:49 Thanks Charles, appreciate it, my friend. Okay, we continue our birthday celebrations for this time of the year, and let's give it up for Tania Lemani, actress and dancer who played Kara in the original series episode Wolf in the Fold. Awesome bit of Scotty focused serial killer action there, written by the great Robert Block. But Tenaya Leamani, Happy birthday to you. Looks like you did, gets smarked amongst other things there, and of course that well regarded fan film star Trek of Gods and Men as well, So happy birthday, very nice to see you. Happy birthday. Also to keeping it in the original series lineup here friends to Leslie Parrish, actress who played Carolyn Palamus in second seasons who mourns for Adonis going for the Greek gods there, and you can see that she was also a staple of sixty television, including turns on Mannix and the Adam West Batman. You can see her there with mister Freese, so one of the many iterations of mister Freeze. There. So excellent resume going on there and the Logan's Run the TV series.

1:39:04 A lot of people forget that there was a TV series from Logan's Run, but pretty entertaining. So happy birthday to you, Leslie Parrish. Let's move over to Next Gen for a bit and say happy birthday to Brian Brophy. Brian Brofy is the actor who portrayed the character Bruce Maddox in What for My Money is probably one of the all time greatest episodes of Next Gen, certainly one of the best of season two. The Measure of a Man. That is science fiction writing done well. It is about something, and he's great because he's a very much agon and antagonist you love to hate in that episode, right, but by the end of it, it's like he's kind of coming around and his thinking has changed somewhat because of his experiences. It's really interesting performance and he did a remarkable job there, so really really great. He's also able to say that he's got the Shawshank redemption on his list of credits, which is a pretty spectacular thing to be able to say. So, Brian Brophy, we salute you, sir.

1:40:09 Let's keep in Next Gen forbid and say happy birthday to actor, playwright, and screenwriter Robert shankin Okay, very Cool, who played Lieutenant Commander Remick in the Next Generation first season episodes Coming of Age and that classic pulpy episode that I think still demands a sequel. Right a Conspiracy, I think is a terrific underrated episode, super over the top with special effects. But I always thought that I would love to see them do with this episode in the feature film universe, what Wrath of Khan did with Space Seed, right, because it ended on a really interesting note and it never was resolved. I've never seen anyone deal with what happened, but the intimation is that someday it might happen, and I think a good screenwriter could find something fun to do with that. So very cool, boy does a Commander Lieutenant Commander Remitt.

1:41:06 Go. What an exit that character made. Man. So if you don't know what I'm. Talking about, yeah, make good everybody else, Like I was gonna say, the most violent moment in all of Star Trek. Yeah, and it makes a good segue to somebody else. I'm gonna do a happy birthday on here in a minute too. So well, who could I be talking about? But before we get to that, let's uh somebody who has never been in Star Trek before, but it is about to discover what it's like to be a Star Trek luminary from which there was no escape. And we are talking about the great Holly Hunter. Okay, absolutely spectacular performer. I just about blue a gasket when I heard that she had been cast as the Chancellor in the new starf Starfleet Academy series, which is amazing, so really really cool news there. She's got serious acting chops, hardcore just done if you she can do you know, extreme drama, and she can do phenomenal comedy. I think Raising Arizona was the first thing I remember seeing Olly Hunder and she's just dynamite, really really great. I don't understand why they never cast her to play Laris starling in subsequent Hannibal Lecture movies, because she's like, you know, ready to go.

1:42:25 I mean, she's she's perfect. Her voice all day long. Yeah, I don't know, she's really cool. I love the idea that she's going to be the chancellor of the Academy, so she's you know, definitely, the fact that they're recruiting her for that show has crossed for optimism, so we get a waiting year. It sounds like to see it, but super excited for it. Phenomenal talent. We salute you, Holly Hutter, and welcome to the Star Trek universe. And speaking of folks who've got great creds who just like you know, I mean, you could sit here and just do a whole show about them. Big fan of the legendary Brad Dorriff, Okay, who were acknowledging for his work on Voyager second and thursdayson episodes Meld Basics Part one and Basics Part two where he played lawn suitor in those episodes. There. But if you don't know who Brad Dorriff is, where the hell have you been? I mean, my god, Grima worm tongue in Lord of the Rings I mean my god. He was Bit on The X Files, he's the voice of Chucky. He was in with Nicholson and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. He was on Babylon Five, he was in David Lynch's Dune. I mean, my god. This guy's got such credits. Phenomenal, phenomenal performer, very much married to genre work. Does a huge amount of genre work, right, science fiction and horror, but just very prolific and very talented, and just if he's one of those folks that if he's in it, you know

1:43:56 he's going to show up and he's going to do good work. So we salute you, Brad Dorff. You're an incredible performer, and it's great that you're in the Star Trek universe. Do more. Why is he not? Hey? Strange New World's casting directors cast this guy put him in something on the show so we can see him again, right, because we miss having you in Star Trek. You know, we really really do. Boys is a long time ago. I mean, Boyger maybe coming back in some new iteration. We don't know, but I would love to see Brad Dorff and something else. A great guy. And finally, for me, Wow. I never it never occurred to me that this would be a cat that we're talking about being part of Star Trek. I mean it, I just shook my head, right because for a while, we're like, oh, you know, these different people that you think you're gonna, you know, maybe be part of Star Trek, you know, like Quentin Tarantino type thing. But when I turned on Star Trek and I saw that, oh my god, in an acting role they had cast legendary director David Cronenberg, I just could not believe what was going on. Blew my mind because this cat, I mean people talk about about direct is with the unique vision that is just kind of beyond where regular Hollywood is. David Lynch comes to mind, because we just lost David Lynch recently, but there's very few directors who live in that ethereal firmament, and David Cronenberg is one of them. Okay, I mean absolutely phenomenal.

1:45:19 Now we're here to acknowledge him for being an actor in playing the character of Kovich in through third, fourth, and fifth seasons of Discovery right the Mysterious Operative. You don't really learn who he is until the very very end of the series, but it was a really interesting portrayal. Right. He fit in beautifully in that future star Trek Timeline, I thought, because he is very otherworldly. David Cronenberg, right, Canadian director, screenwriter and sometimes actor. My god, if you don't know David Cronenberg, you're merely missing out if you only know him from this and you've never seen his films. I mean, going back into the seventies, this guy just did an an amazing body of work, pictures like Rabbit the Brood and of course, going back to the conspiracy reference, we're talking about Scanners, right, because that character met with a very serious scanner's demise. Videodrome The Dead Zone, for my money, one of the best Stephen King adaptations of all time, right, The Fly with Jeff Goldblum. I mean, this cat just is in everything, right. I mean, he's just a really great visionary director, plays you know, to his own drummer, right, not necessarily somebody who like pulls back and let's make it more commercial. You know, Cronenberg drives totally off road, right and goes his own way and sees things that no one else sees. So it's a real treat to have David Cronenberg showing up on an episode of Star Trek. Will we see him again?

1:46:51 Anything's possible. I mean, you know, you have to sort of from the amount of casting ven diagrams we're seeing with Starfleet Academy, We're seeing a lot of Discovery characters pop over there on Starfleet Academy from Discovery, So who knows, maybe we'll see some iteration of this character there again. If they can get him, they'd be crazy not to that'd be my advice. So you're a legend, David Cronenberg, and your vision is just unsurpassed. So great to be able to acknowledge you, and it's exciting that you're part of Star Trek. So happy birthday to all of our March celebrants. And I'm going to pass this sucker over to uncle Jim Well.

1:47:32 I thank you so much, Paul. And just to remind everybody, Coovich was actually Daniels from Star Trek Enterprise. So he's been hanging out. Yeah, he's been hanging out on Enterprise. What's the incentive to watch the show now, Jim, geez. For how long it's all over? I mean, I think he's been on every single Enterprise since Enterprise was Enterprise. So he's been around a long time, so we might see him again. Anyways, I've got lingons, Klingons and klingons. Does that shock you, guys? Bet? Because everyone wants to touch my batlet, so particularly this first klingon. Uh. We want to say happy birthday and called lah to Faith Minton. And she was a stunt actress who appears as the female lustful Klingon in the TNG first season episode Hide and que And there she is right there, crawling around on the floor in her little body suit warf, beating the crap out of her the whole nine yards.

1:48:32 I mean, uh, she was the first female Klingon we see on TNG, and uh, there she is. It's a lustful cling On. Happy birthday to Faith Milton. We also want to say happy birthday to Granville Van Dunson, who played the Klingon magistrate and Star Trek Enterprise second season episode Judgment and the Andrian general in the third season episode The Proving Ground. And there there he is, in all of his glory with his electric ball all there and his little tentacles waving around. Happy. I think that's your next uh, that's your next thing. Now that you've got the battleft, you need the klingon gavel man on the table and have it spark every time it spark.

1:49:13 I think you're right. And uh yeah, And actually that episode Judgment was a phenomenal episode. And oddly enough, my next klingon was in that episode. Uh, this particular cling on. This guy has been more than a klingon, but I think he's best known as a one, a klingon that most people don't see eye to eye with for a good one. So we want to say happy birthday and to the one and only J. G. Hertzler. He's an actor from Savannah, Georgia. He's one of only five actors to play seven or more different characters in the Star Trek franchise. But he's best known as playing General Martok Force season of Star Trek Deep Space nine, and he played He also played in uh Judgment. He was the defending Klingon of Archer in that episode, which I think is one of enterprises hot episodes if you haven't seen it, Judgment.

1:50:19 So happy birthday to JG. Hertzler and Jim that that wraps up our. Bert before you continue. One thing to remember, just be careful getting him on a podcast, especially with another fellow kling on, because. Nobody's going to get a word in edge wise, no think we talked for an hour. No now, Robert O'Reilly and j G Hertzler pretty much hijacked the podcast for a whole hour, a whole hour in fact, funny story about j G. I got the hell channel. He just went on and on. I got to host his panel at Treuk Long Island at their first convention, and he hijacked the whole show and talked about gun control and some highway that runs through Scotland and I just kind of sat there and couldn't get a word in at all because he just went off on a tangent. That's what JAG likes to do. So happy birthday. And what's not on this list is he was also on lower decks. So happy birthday. And now it's time for our star Trek news.

1:51:37 Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secured channel. Incoming transmission enter authorization code command codes verified. Define parameters of program. Level nine authorization required. Specifying parameters, Transfer updata is complete. Alert All right, Eric, you get to start us off with our first news story of the evening. I'm so excited about this one, Jim, and I know Charles is too, as we are both lovers of audio books and audio dramas, and I'm pretty sure we all love the character of Khan. Naveen Andrews Andren Schmidt were cast in Star Trek Khan. Production has wrapped on recording for the previously announced Star Trek Khan, an all new scripted audio series expanding the Star Trek Universe. Star Trek Cohn.

1:52:34 Lead voice cast includes Navin Andrews from Lost as the iconic khn and Ren Schmidt from For All Mankind as Marlon mcgivers. The exciting expansion of the Star Trek universe will explore the dramatic, untold events that unfolded in the desolate world of SETI Alpha five after Captain Kirk marooned Khan and his followers there, paving the way for the iconic clash in Star Trek. The Wrath of Khan. Star Trek Khan will be available for streaming on all major podcast platforms later this year. History remembers con Noonian seeing as a villain, the product of a failed attempt to perfect humanity through genetic engineering, whose quest to avenge himself on Admiral James T. Kirk led to unimaginable tragedy and loss, But the truth has been buried for too long beneath the sands of SETI Alpha vive. How did Con go from a beneficent beneficent is that a word tyrant and superhuman visionary with a new world at his fingertips?

1:53:36 To the monster that we all know so well recently unearthed? The rest of CON's story will finally be told in Star Trek Khan. In this highly anticipated audio series, Navin Andrews takes on the role of the iconic villain Khan, exploring his complex psyche and the depths of his anger, ambition, and pain. Alongside him, Ren Schmidt is set to play luten At Marlon mcgivers, a former Starfleet historian who followed Con into exile on SETI Alpha five. Additional cast will be announced at a later date. In this highly anticipated audio series, Oh this is a repeat here Da da da da da. So we're all very excited about this.

1:54:16 Star Trek Con is produced by CBS's I podcast Productions, Inc. CBS Studios Podcasting, Arm Secret Hideout, and Roden Berry Entertainment. Wow. Yeah, I'm super excited about this. I was a big fan, of course, not only of CON, but they made some great comics back in the day. Con Ruling in Hell in particular is one of my favorites. That takes place on SETI Alpha five, which I'm hoping is where they're grabbing some of this stuff for this audio drama from, because I think there was some really interesting interactions, particularly between Marlon mcgivers and Con, that were explored in that comic book. Can't wait to listen to it, really can't. So you gotta get We gotta get those two on the show. That would be a Smith's for all mankind. Right, She's amazing, she's a serious.

1:55:05 That show is so good, and her character on that show is so like together and Thevine's great. Yeah. I mean, if we could get them both to promote the show, get them on here and let them know we're you know, more interested in like audio because we're podcast right, so you know that, that would be phenomenal. I would be maybe we can get access to hearing them somehow before they drop or something. But that's a that's a that sounds really promising. Let's make it happen, all right. Our next story is Kurt, Thanks thanks, Jim. We have faith in you. So, Paul, what do you want to share with us now? Well, you know, I kind of am slightly addicted to small pieces of plastic in one form or another. So you know, I gotta, I gotta do my toy segment if I can. So let's talk about We just recently had a special show where we chatted it up with the Ben Robinson from Master Replicas. Right, and man never sleeps.

1:56:05 Right. So, Master Replicas and Paramount are collaborating on a brand new Star Trek collection. Right. Master Replicas has the license from Paramount Consumer Products, and they've announced something called the Star Trek Starship's Library. Okay, it's a new series of reference books that comes each book with a four to five inch long modelship and the collection launches this coming July this summer. Pre orders you can jump on there right now and secure your first editions of these. This series is going to provide collectors with an in depth reference book to some of the most iconic historic Star Trek ships, while also offering us the opportunity to build to hold the models accompanying them, you know, up in your hands and look at them in the tactile way.

1:56:54 They've made palm sized models back when Master Replicas was Eagle, so this is not their first time doing this quality. Come on, let's see visual there, Eric, there you go, Yeah, there we go in a price See if I'm met squinting correctly? Right, The quality is really good on these, right, they're very very you know, some die cast and abs plastic together they work really really well. So they're great, about four or five inches long depending on the ship. Right there, die cast metal and resin they've been made with. And this is the nice thing about Ben Robinson, right as he insists on careful reverence to the original visual effects models from the shows, and then they're very well painted to be as accurate as possible. Right, not a lot of QC issues there. Each model is going to come with a specially designed stand, as Eric just demonstrated, that can be combined with the book to create a display.

1:57:48 The books will cover each ship in detail, with annotated plan views of the exterior and in service, history of their place in the Star Trek universe, and behind the scenes account of the ship's appearances in the franchise, along with information about how and why it was created, with new interviews with the creators. So here's the first three books and models that accompany them that will be released this coming summer shipping before July. Fingers crossed of course, the USS Enterprise and CC one seven O one, but it's the strange New World's version as we see right here right, so a little bit more of the heavy gray aesthetic to it, but really really cool. The USS Cerritos from lower decks. I don't know that they've done a Cerritos in this scale.

1:58:38 Actually they didn't excel They did not in the smaller scales. Yeah, it's those Excels. They take up a lot of space quick man. I'm like, they really do. They're beautiful though. It's so great. And then the USS Discovery from the Discovery series earlier seasons one and two version there as well, which of course is my fave. So that's fantastic. And then every quarter more ships will follow. Darren Epstein the EVP over their Global Master replicas. Lets us know that they are thrilled to continue their journey with Star Trek, bringing a range of ships with books to market that we know will really resonate with fans who love this franchise of who that is all of us yes, so good stuff, and you know, you have a lot of swag coming out every year. But I feel pretty solid recommending pretty much anything. Master replicas twist their stamp on.

1:59:31 They're doing things like the cards Ta Glass right now, you can get you can get like the original series era, like styrofoam coffee cup, like from Trouble with Troubles right. I mean, they do a lot of good stuff and it's very they're filthy to the source. Material is always really high. So that's pretty exciting. And that's it for that update. So that carries us out so pretty cool. Tims muted, No, I was my my my dog is here, Les here barking and akin. So we don't want to hear that, do we? Definitely not? Well, guys, what did you think about Andy Bray checking in with check Off?

2:00:18 His ability to sort of vamp and be funny for long periods of time always amazes me. I just wish he had a little more energy. You know, he's just very sick. He did. I think my laptop would just melt. Yeah, it's like it's like a human cartoon man. It's just great. Yeah, it's just you know, he's he's got such reverence for everything. Right, He's like really knows the material. You just think it. You know, he's an idea factory, right, and he's got all this great stuff. Uh yeah, he's a really good guest tonight. Really fun to talk to him. I think he does if they haven't had the opportunity to read that reading Fake Star Trek or eating Making Fake Star Trek book yet, I recommend that to all Star Trek fans because what you get is you get like a fans perspective on what it's like to suddenly be thrust into the maw of real Star Trek stuff, and like kind of how he talked tonight about how overwhelming that can sometimes be and how he just kind of like has these moments of being a deer in the headlights. I think that book kind of explores that just a little bit more. It's really a great book, absolutely.

2:01:30 So I want to let you guys know that next week we're going to be doing the first of our retro flashbacks, and Eric, being our resident Voyager specialist, has chosen one of his favorite Voyager episodes. We're going to go back and take a look at Message in a Bottle. So that'll be next week. I want to take an opportunity to say thank you not only to Andy Bray for sharing the Gorn video with us, but for joining us as well. So thank you very much to Andy. And I also want to say thank you to Eric for hanging out in trek talking with us tonight. Thank you so much. Eric. Absolutely a blast as always, guys. And of course thank you to Charles Palm Trees and all for hanging out with us. Thank you, Charles. Thank you.

2:02:10 Always a fun show and we get Andy on there, it's even better. Yeah, stay in my seat and not roll on the floor laughing. I almost did a couple of times. Yea. And of course thank you to David, our miracle worker for the great, great, great visual effects that we see on the show tonight. Thank you David. You're welcome. It's been really fun. I had a lot of fun talking to Andy and trying not to mess up on the slideshow show. But it was great. Nope, you did a great job as always. And last, but definitely not least, we want to say thank you so much to Paul for hanging out and trek talking with us. It was fun as always.

2:02:50 We had a lot of fun tonight, friends, good show, and it was really nice of Andy to come by. It's fun to see what gets unleashed out of his imagination, so a lot of fun spending time with him. Yeah, I've been trying to get Andy on for a while, but you heard how busy he is and he only had one free weekend. Like I said, next weekend is going to be flashback. I'm going to talk about Voyager and then we're going to do a great Performances episode of Star Trek and that's where each one of us pick some of our favorite characters from each one of the shows and we'll spend a couple of minutes sharing that with you and talking about it. So that's in the future as well. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim saying thank you so much for joining us and Star Trek fans are the best fans. You better believe that.

2:03:35 Thank you for being a fan. Hailing frequencies are closed, good night, everybody belong and Frosty. Ready for departures. Some problem right, just hoping this isn't the usual way our missions will go so oh no, but well I'm sure most will be much more than. Then. See what's out there. Again?

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