Nov. 14, 2025

Episode 662 -Khan audio drama episode 7 "I am Marla" review

Episode 662 -Khan audio drama episode 7 "I am Marla" review
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Star Trek

In this episode of Trek Talking, host Uncle Jim and his panel of experts discuss various sci-fi movies, including the highly recommended 'Predator: Badlands' and the excitement surrounding the second season of 'Alien Earth.' They engage with their fan community through shout-outs and trivia, particularly focusing on the often-controversial 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.' The conversation flows from movie recommendations to fan interactions, culminating in a light-hearted trivia segment that highlights the show's camaraderie and humor. In this episode, the hosts engage in a lively discussion about the emotional impact of the Star Trek Con episode 'No, I Am Marla,' exploring themes of loss, grief, and character development, particularly focusing on Khan's transformation. They also touch on the trivia segment related to Star Trek V, share insights on the episode's plot twists, and reflect on the significance of trust and betrayal. Additionally, the episode concludes with exciting news about upcoming Star Trek projects and a new LEGO Star Trek set, sparking enthusiasm among fans.

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Ready and the.

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Yells Kane and again has gone insane Logan six Corporal

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Hicks that Jim and Doney to fixed cripple NBC did

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everily cannot see Bumblebee Kane, I'm the doctor, wrankling online

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Old Bob sand World stories that will twisting turn bolts, Cimitar,

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death of tashi Ya, Flash Gordon, but Progers don't prison,

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Clone Wars, James Holden, Tweaky, John Cone against.

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Yankee, talk about the series.

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You can join us up your phone down about the series.

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Bye, Welcome to Truck Talking. I'm your most x and host,

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Uncle Jim. It's Thursday, November thirteen, twenty twenty five, and

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this is episode six hundred and sixty two. Before we

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go too far, I'd like to go around the room

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and introduce you to my awesome, awesome trucks. First, I'm

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gonna start out with Paul, the toy guy. He's out

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in Portland. How you doing, Paul.

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I'm good, Uncle Jim. But let me clarify we are

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still and beyond right, we're trek Talking, and beyond.

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All we'll wait, beyond wait because in the.

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In the spirit of beyond, I got two words for

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you this week that I can't shake out of my head. Okay,

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those words are Predator bad Lands.

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Okay.

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And if you're a science fiction fan, your ass needs

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to be in a theater and see this movie. It

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is easily one of the best science fiction action movies

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the last thirty years or more.

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I shit, you not go, go go.

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I can't wait to see it again.

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Wow, I was I was going to say tron Aris,

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but that's you know, yeah, you know, different strokes, different strokes.

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I have myself. I have Jared Leto's disease. So I'm

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not able to see a movie with Jared Leto in it.

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But I am able to see a movie with a

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lot of Waila Tutani androids and crazy monsters.

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And that I love. And so I would talk about

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highly recommend that Alien Earth has been picked up for

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a second season.

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That's right, that's right, very good news, very good news.

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So a lot of good stuff out there, And we

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got the we got the excitement of Pluribus that is

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out there as well science fiction fans. So you're not

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watching Pluribus, you really need to be checking that stuff

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out too. So there's a lot of good stuff happening

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these days, I guess as I'm full of enthusiasm, full

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of enthusiasm.

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I've been watching it Welcome the Dairy, which is wow, has.

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Some really great Those opening credits are the bomb. They

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are hilarious, They're so disturbing, just really really good.

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They tie it into the Stephen King universe with characters

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from other Stephen King movies, which is awesome as well.

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So I don't want to ruin it for people that

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haven't seen it. But anyways, that's our beyond. We are

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beyond beyond.

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We have very own v I'm doing all right. I

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got Moopsie. I had misplaced my moops and I finally

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found her him it I don't know anyway, Yeah, it's great.

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We have finally some wintry slash fall ish weather, so

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I am very very happy.

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We got five inches of snow here and Vermont.

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I am yes, I love I love snow.

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Too early for snow for me, but I do have

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Leyo with me. Lea. Leya is quite as Hopefully she'll

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stay there sleeping and we're gonna swing all the way

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back to Portland again. To Eric, how you doing, Eric?

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I am doing pretty good. Jim having a good week,

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looking forward to tomorrow. As we all know, tonight is

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Friday's Eve, and I'm repping some what we do in

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the shadows tonight. I got my Jackie data and a

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regular human bartender tachered on tonight, so I forget I

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wore that for yes, and.

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We're gonna We're gonna swing out to Vegas and say

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hello to Charles. How you doing tonight, Charles.

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I'm doing good. You can see by the palm tree.

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The weather's nice today, won't be when we're right here tomorrow.

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We're getting definitely some fall like weather pushing through with rain,

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some storming, and getting some of the same storms at

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northern California and southern California.

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Will be getting.

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Well. I would go outside in my outside studio, but

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I'd have to wear a parka and glove and it

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just would be bad. So we'll stay right in here.

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That's cool. And guess what, we're gonna go all the

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way back to a place we've been before. That's right,

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Portland is something in the water, and we're gonna say

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hello to our very own miracle workers. David, how you

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doing tonight, David drinking that water, drinking that.

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Very exciting week. So I'm very excited to get on

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to our trek and beyond. Joe like, like's go for it.

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Yeah, we are gonna go beyond, that's for sure. So

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before we go too far, I want to let you

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guys know that you can find all of our shows

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at Trek Talking dot com. And while you're there, you

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can find a link to our Patreon page and for

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only two dollars, you can help us support the podcast,

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So please do that if you can. Tonight, we're gonna

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be talking about the Star Trek Con audio drama, the

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seventh episode I Am Marla, and we're gonna have Paul

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give us an awesome recap of that. We're gonna die

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right in. We also have our fans shout outs, and

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that's where we go around the globe and we think

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fans just like you for being supporters of this podcast.

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And what sci fi actors do you share a birthday with?

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Find out in our sci Fi Birthday segment, And of

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course what's going on around the Star Trek universe. We

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have some news stories to get to and from the

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Star Trek polls. At least we gotta be going well

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slightly different direction with the polls, so they're not quite

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polls like we usually do. But I like to interact

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with the fans as much as possible, so I thought

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this might be fun and different. So you have to

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hang out and find out what those are about. And

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then of course we have some Star Trek Trivia with

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Uncle Jim and uh yeah, this week, guys, the trivia

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is going to be on the best Star Trek movie

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ever made. When I'm talking about Star Trek five for

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the final Star Trek Trivia with Uncle Jim. So I

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hope you guys have phoned up on your Star Trek

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five because we're going to get you guys.

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Look at it this way. He can't possibly do it

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again for another six months.

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I don't know, you know.

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So what's what's nice is Star Trek five and the

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word trivial really go together really well. Excellent, excellent. I'm

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we're gonna look forward.

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To in the last five years, so you know we're

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gonna see. Yeah, I think it'll be fun. I think

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it'll be fun. I didn't go too deep. I got

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some questions. I think you guys are gonna know. And again,

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it's not about it's just about having fun. So we're

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gonna have some fun. We're gonna talk about Star Trek five,

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the Final Frontier, the best Star Trek movie. So I'm

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going to get it in out of my system. So

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with that in mind, guys, we have a really fun

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show and we're going to dive right in and we're

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gonna start with fan shout outs and what is what

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was she doing under the cast?

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Are you?

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Are you?

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Is she dreaming?

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Are you stuck? Come on, get your head out of

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get your head out of there.

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She sounds like she is she dreaming because.

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My regular viewers having a seance right now in his

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house having fun. Spirits are from his Hopefully they'll be gone.

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So Leah had her head stuck under the couch. She's okay,

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she's lening me right.

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You're okay?

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Are you all right? Okay? So anyways, guys, Lea's all right,

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don't worry, She's okay. So, as I was saying before

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Leiah got her head stuck under the couch, Uh, We're

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gonna start off with our fans shout out section. And

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if you go to Trek Talking and Beyond, you will

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find there or live long and prosper posting to the

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top of the page. Just go there. Click on that

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and tell us where you are. She's sticking your head

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under the couch again. She doesn't learn, she just goes

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right back to it. You can go to the our

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page and tell us where you're from. Lead lots of

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emojis from heart next to your name, I'm gonna kill

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that dog and uh. If you see a heart next

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to your name from yours truly, uncle Jim, you will

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be featured in a future fans shout out. We're gonna

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have Eric start with the thing and shout out so well,

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I get lay out from one of the couch and

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put her out in the living room. I'll be right back,

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all right. Well.

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Our first fan shout out this week goes out to

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top fan Mario Vargas, who hails from Costa Rica and

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top fan status means that Mario interacts with us a

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lot on our Facebook page, which seems to grow pretty

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fast and actually has a ton of clicks in a month.

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So thanks Mario for being part of the part of

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the crew there that keeps us afloat. So appreciate that.

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Also would like to say hello this week to Marsine Volshinyak,

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who is saying greetings from Poland. And sending us that

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live long and prosper hand Marsine, thank you so much

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for saying hello to us and for supporting us from

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that most excellent country of Poland. Charlie Conahan is saying

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hello to us from Scotland. So Charlie, thank you so

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much for saying hello to us. And I say kaplaw

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right back to you, sir. And last but not least,

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on my list, I have top fan Milanie, for who

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is hailing from Germany, and of course we have a

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lot of sport in Germany. Really appreciate every single fans

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voice that we hear from that country. I wish I

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could just go there and meet all of the Star

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Trek fans in one room at the same time. That

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would be so cool. Melanie, thank you for saying hello.

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And Charles, I'm wondering who you would like to say

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hello to you this week?

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Oh, thank you.

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Eric.

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Let's start off with a warm welcome to Jim Blair

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from Alabama trekk and census sixth grade in nineteen seventy six.

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Welcome Jim.

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Welcome to.

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Katrina Kuntz from Sulfur Springs, Texas. Welcome, Welcome Chris Dorn

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from Yellow Springs, Ohio and Chris Smith from Ohio. So

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we have Chris and Chris over in Ohio. Maybe they

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can run over and start the Chris Star Trek Club.

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Be who's on your list?

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Well, the first fan that I have is Sorry Payne

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from Daytona, Florida, and of course I have to reference

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the Jackie Daytona from what we do in the Shadows,

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So thank you, sorry for being a fan. Next is

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Howard Lanis from Tempe, Arizona, USA, So thank you Howard.

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We really appreciate you, as well as Patrick Defecy from Canada,

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our neighbor to the north, and as always we appreciate

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you so much. You have no idea And Patrick sent

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the Live Long and Prosper hands, so Live Long and

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Prosper back to you. And then last but not least,

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Arthur Norman Belcher from Central Kentucky, USA, so thank you

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for being a fan. And next I send it on

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to Paul.

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Thank you be.

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You know, I think that Patrick in Canada is wise

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not to disclose where in Canada they live to a

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bunch of Americans. I think that was a smart move. Patrick,

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stay anonymous as much as you can, keep your head

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down I mean your neighbors to the south, my own.

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What can I tell you what? We've got folks beyond

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the Canadians and the North Americans here that are also

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Star Trek enthusiasts scattered across the globe. And first of all,

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we're going to go over to the wonderful historic land

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of Poland, where Whitecheck Samagdo Witch is saying hello to us.

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I hope I'm pronouncing that even half correctly, Whitecheck, But

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it is great to know that you're out there, thumbs up.

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We know that you're a fan, and it's great to

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know that there's STARTERUK enthusiasm in your corner of the globe.

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Matt Webster from the United Kingdoms sends us greetings as

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well as a live, long and prosper I am full

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of affection for the United Kingdom this week in two

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feeling a lot of gratitude for the UK. So good

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to know that you're out there, friends. And in sunnier climbs,

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it there in Brazil, so I'm very curious about your lineage, Guimiares.

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I hope I'm pronouncing that right, but really, really fantastic.

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Czech Republic, Tatana hole Kova is saying hello to us,

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you know, in times of chaos and disarray, we can

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feel united with folks all over this planet because of

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our shared love and fantasy, science fiction and Star Trek.

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one's hope, wouldn't you agree, Uncle Jim?

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Ricky Erwitz, who's listening to us in Pennsylvania. And we

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want to send out a hardy copplaid to Brian Koppol

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Katrina Joy who's listening to us in Detroit, Michigan. And last,

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but definitely not least, on my list, we want to

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say thank you and apply to am or Mees who's

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in Louisville, Kentucky. And that, my friends, wraps up our

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head over to Trek Talking and look for to Live

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Long and prosper post. Tell us where you're from, Please

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leave some emojis, look for a heart from your truly

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uncle Jim, and then tune into the next show and

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you'll be featured and all these awesome pictures like me

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interviewing Darth Vader right there and uh me at Trek

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connor Roga with some friendly fans. You can send us

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your picture and David will get it right up there

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on the screen, so you'll be immortalized for air. Me

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and Eric, so you'll be immortalized. And see everyone wants

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to touch my batlet. Yeah, Stephen, even that's that's a story.

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Get arrested for that in the wrong place.

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Everyone without the restraining order.

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outs and talking about my bad Clifton. That's enough talk

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from okay. So now we're going to do our Star

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Because they listen worldwide.

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All right, guys. I usually like to throw some poll

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throw some questions out to the fans and see what

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they thought. So this week it's basically where we're centering

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on you guys, the fans. So here's our here's our

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first picture up there, and Eric, what is the question?

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background is awesome. Memory Yeah, that's the Memories right there.

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I describe the picture for anybody? Is there anybody listening

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and not want watching? If there is a group of

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three Tellusions, name this yeah, name this sixties band?

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Alan Pagett said, Martha and the Boffins, it's pretty good.

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Roy Hansen said non Talking Heads. Brian James ai Art

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said the Three Tops, okay yeah. Rick Carter said the

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Thinking Heads their big hit burning Down the Captain. That's

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so mad, so mad.

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Mike Burgie said the Tellos four Heads okay here yeah.

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Jazz Trio and Carl Parks, Harry and the Heiny.

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these polls coming up. I need to, I guess seek

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out the trek talking Facebook page face I do. I

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guess not enough, or maybe I don't know. Maybe uncle

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uncle Jim blocked.

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Me, blocked it.

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You have to pay two dollars a month for that.

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I like the next one. The next one. I decided

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to go in there.

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Classic and so, uh yeah.

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rock group and uh, you know, for those just listening,

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Hassen said. Queens of the spock Age, known for the

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hits I want to track Free and Galileo. Queens of

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the spock Age is awesome, very nice name. Michael T.

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Paget said, the legit, the logistics, Yeah, very logical. David

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Bishop said it, of course, I love that. Michael Bell three.

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And a half Humans, Michael very clever, very clever.

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Ron Ravitz said, Pond four, Yeah, crazy. Vance G. Harris

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the weather There's a jazz group called the Weather Report.

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Alan uh oh Alan Paggett. Didn't we see it? He

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put it had two Pagetts, this one Alan Alan Peggett said,

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sarcastic vulcan salute, because that's what's going on right now. Awesome.

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a half Humans.

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I like Three and a half Humans because what they

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a great Yeah. And then of course Harry and the

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heiny Heads, because you know, I'm forever fourteen, I guess,

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I was something different, would it was? Yeah, and some

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of the fans had some pretty clever news. So thank

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you to everybody who have participated in that particular whole question.

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We really appreciated a lot of great stuff there. All

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can be found on our Facebook page. And I see

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you on Facebook all the time. I respond to your posts.

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I know, Yeah, I just don't see that.

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I guess, just I don't know, but yeah.

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Yeah, that's weird. Al right, guys. So then it comes

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the best part of the show. Part of the show

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I have been dying to do. I've been waiting patiently

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to do, and that is this this? Where is it?

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Where it is?

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Yeah?

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And you know what that music means. It's once again

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time to put on your thinking caps and join us

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for Star Trek trivia time with Uncle Jim.

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All Right, I decided to go way beyond with this one, guys,

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and we're going to do trivia on the best Star

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Trek movie ever made, Star Trek five, the Final Frontier.

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So great.

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Put on your sidebot caps and let's get started. So

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first question I'm gonna throw out to Eric.

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Okay, put him right on the hot seats right away.

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Give me your pain, Okay, are you ready?

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I'm ready?

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Who plays the yeoman that hands Captain Kirk the malfunctioning

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log recorder? Uh? Is that?

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Is that Rand? I mean? I know the character is

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a Rand who does it?

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but she's played by somebody very close to mister shat oh. Oh.

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Is that the one where it's his Uh? It's his daughter? Yep,

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what's her name again? It's Melanie sat Melanie, Yes, Melanie,

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Melanie Okay, yes, Well, thank you for the copy of

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hints on that I obviously didn't know that out of

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the bucket.

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But so that's I mean, it's a great movie, and

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it's easy that you've seen it. Sometimes you probably forgot

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all the new ones.

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You know, sometime it just like it all runs together.

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It's just yeah, it's it's it's Star Trek's sixty.

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You know, that's what it is.

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That's right?

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So yeah, you know, all right, all right? Name the

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actor who played General Chord, the Klingon General?

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Was that? Because it's it's been a while since I

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had I known, I would have watched the movie? Or

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is that that was that William Campbell?

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Oh, oh, David's got his hand up, David, you.

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Know that was what William Campbell?

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I don't. I thought I did, but then I was realizing,

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oh that's a different movie.

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Yeah it was. It wasn't was it William Campbell?

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No, No, but he did play Klingon? Did play Paul knows.

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What is it which chord Chord?

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General Chord?

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Memory serves that's Charles Cooper.

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Yes, Charlie Cooper, that's right. And Paul, while we got

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to you get the next question. What other famous Klingon

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that Charlie Cooper play on?

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T Oh god, this is like This is like, you know,

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are you ready for your prostrate exam?

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That's what this is reminding of.

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That's that's under t M I as well, that Lesson.

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Well, you know, we're all we're all going to be

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there at some point, not me Jesus.

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of anything these days.

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It is the only reason, the only reason in the

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in the in the first place, that I would know

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who Charles Cooper is, right, it's just because of his

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of this role, right, because it's really I think one

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of the coolest and certainly most OBEs of all Klingons

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that we've ever met, and that would be kemp Pack

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on Next Gen because you know, kemp Pak is in

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that awesome you know, Redemption right, the whole cling on

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Civil War. I mean, that's some of the worf's best episodes, right.

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Kempack is just such.

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A cool guy.

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I mean, and more like what was it in that

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movie office space right where you had what was it

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had you wear on your uniform? What did they call that?

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Any space?

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Yeah, kemp Pac has more flair on his talbard than anybody.

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I mean, he's got like six thousands pieces of Klingon flair.

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It's amazing.

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So he wins the flare war.

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The Great Charles Cooper.

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I had the distinct pleasure of having Charles Cooper at

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his first Star Trek convention back in nineteen ninety three,

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and he was totally when I called him, He's like,

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you want to talk to me about Star Trek. He

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was blown away by the amount of people that wanted

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to talk to him about impacting Court. He couldn't believe

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that people actually cared that much, and he was just

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just blown away by the by the fans. So he

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was a sweet nice man to meet. Charlie. All right, David,

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you're ready, mister miracle worker. All right, what is the

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name of the shuttle that su crashes during emergency landing

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Plan B Team? Actually, it's pretty easy because they have

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this shuttle. They use the shuttle like over and over.

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Mm hmmm.

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Is it the Galileo?

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Yes, it is. Yeah.

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I mean if you just as like, say a shuttle

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name Galileo.

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Charles, is you ready?

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No? No?

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Uh? Name them out? And the captain Kirk to free climb.

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Oh, that's one I actually do know. It was El Capitan.

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Yeah, that's right. All right, Now we're gonna swim back

478
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to you. Okay, Star truck Clive, you're ready. I'm an

479
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:20.640
stand truck movie. What's the name of the city on

480
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:24.039
Nimbus three that the crew raids to rescue the hostages.

481
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.759
The name of the city, Yeah.

482
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.359
It was, it was. It was spray painted across the

483
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.119
top and black letters, but they added the word lost

484
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:36.000
to the end of it.

485
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:40.200
Paradise.

486
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:51.160
Paradise, that's right, Paradise City. Yeah, you would know that. Okay,

487
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:56.440
all right, you're phoned up on your It's it's like bank.

488
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.839
Here, it's like way back here, and it's not you

489
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.160
can't like actually think about it. It just has to

490
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.559
kind of comprise, you know what it's like.

491
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.359
It's like a SETI eel that is just embedded.

492
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:06.440
In your head.

493
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.119
It's exactly what it's like. And there's a lot to

494
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:10.720
talk about.

495
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:16.119
Oh my god, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna test your

496
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:23.039
SETI ill ready, resolutely not ready. I am absolutely.

497
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.920
If you look at this, restraint says I am protected

498
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.079
from any and all Star Trek five references. It's a

499
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.920
condition of my contract on the show, and yet I'm

500
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:39.920
still somehow get my agent on the phone.

501
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:43.079
Jay gelding contract with Eric.

502
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.480
You get Yeah, an article twelve actually says if you

503
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.640
don't make any money, then none of it counts, so right.

504
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:57.279
So, Paul, what is Nimbus three referred to as.

505
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:09.440
Mount Bullshit? Yeah, it's the City of Dreams or some nonsense.

506
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.079
I can't remember. I really can't remember.

507
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.440
Anybody else know I know.

508
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.400
Wait a minute, I do. Not just occurred to me.

509
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:26.319
I wish I had watched it again before this. That

510
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:27.200
would have been nice.

511
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:31.119
But well, this is all because this is like improving

512
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.000
Eric's point that this knowledge is like weirdly get there.

513
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:39.200
Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's.

514
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:41.599
Like something the president would write. Our current president would

515
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.160
write this out. I'd like to welcome people from the

516
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.079
Planet of Galactic Peace to endorse.

517
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:51.480
My galactic piece, the Planet of Galactic Peace.

518
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.160
That's right, it sounds like a nice place I would

519
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.240
go there. I like a place really a literal name,

520
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:02.960
you know, yeah, and really prices.

521
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:09.880
With a terrorists already, David, what is the randular name

522
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:11.279
or eating?

523
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:16.400
Okay that one more time?

524
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:18.400
Yeah, what is.

525
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:23.839
Beaten?

526
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:25.279
Mhm?

527
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.079
I can't remember. I didn't even know the warbling.

528
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.720
Well, so I'll give you one hint. There's a and

529
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.279
maybe this there's a star trek attack wing ship. The

530
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:45.599
old style bird of prey named this word and it

531
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.440
has a couple. It has a very special letter of

532
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.119
the alphabet in it that might may or might not

533
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:52.880
be being flashed by Paul.

534
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:57.759
Man.

535
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.039
Still dwelling creature.

536
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:11.200
Yeah, it's a bird to pray, it's a dwelling creature.

537
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:15.480
Do you know?

538
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:20.240
I am? I feel so, I feel exceedingly stupid tonight.

539
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:24.119
So again, it's a bird.

540
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.200
Save us, Save us from unfortunately.

541
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.759
I spent a lot of time on Robulus, so I

542
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:32.160
learned this.

543
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:36.680
That's right.

544
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.400
The questions that I actually know the answer to, Like.

545
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.119
Yes, you're gonna, you're about you're about to get that question.

546
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.319
I don't want to put you on the hot seat

547
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:53.920
too much, but you actually responded to this post on

548
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:55.400
the Facebook page.

549
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:56.960
So I did.

550
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:57.359
Okay?

551
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:02.200
Who said, yes you did? Who said please captain not

552
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:03.599
in front of the Klingons?

553
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.880
I responded to that. I'm like, where where have I

554
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.519
been like deducted by aliens? Because captain not in front

555
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:14.800
of the Klingons? God?

556
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:20.519
What? Yeh uh? Yeah? You and I had a whole conversation.

557
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:28.800
I mean, it must have been an al, there's someone

558
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:38.119
else that. Wow, that's crazy conversation. Uh, that sounds like

559
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.480
something was that captain not in front of the Klingons?

560
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:44.599
Uh? I don't know.

561
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:48.360
That sounds like no Stock would say that. Would Stock

562
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:48.760
say that?

563
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:53.400
Yes?

564
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.480
It was very good?

565
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:59.800
Okay, all right, well okay, well we'll move. We'll move

566
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.679
the next one. You're ready, Charles, that's a tough one.

567
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:04.960
No, still not ready?

568
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:11.559
Yeah? You who m huh.

569
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.000
Say will star?

570
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:19.800
Who wrote?

571
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.599
Oh wasn't that h.

572
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:29.119
William Shatner?

573
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:33.679
Yeah that guy? Yes, yes, William Shatner, the best Star

574
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:42.239
Trek movie ever. All right, Aaron, Yes, steady into the

575
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:43.039
back of your brain.

576
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.800
I might be able to pull one more. Let's find out.

577
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:51.639
I think you can. What secret ingredient does McCoy put

578
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:52.800
in his beans?

579
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:55.440
Whiskey?

580
00:35:56.519 --> 00:36:00.440
Whiskey? That's right, but not just any whiskey. It was

581
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:07.639
Tennessee whiskey. All the I'm going to put you on

582
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:12.719
the spot. And this one, this one. You just responded

583
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:17.400
to this post just yesterday, so it should be frushing. Okay,

584
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.679
maybe it was your maybe it was your twin. Okay,

585
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:26.639
all right, you're ready. This this is fresh. Who says,

586
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.800
excuse me? What does God need.

587
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:33.719
Well, that's Captain Kirk.

588
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:36.880
That's right, Captain Kirk.

589
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.239
I actually do remember that.

590
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:41.920
That was just the other day.

591
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:47.719
And then somebody somebody replies to some sort of somebody

592
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:53.079
replied something with it, some sort of religious I can't remember.

593
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.760
Yeah, the atheist conversation thing, we got that whole comment day.

594
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:58.239
It got weird real quick.

595
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.400
It did get weird that that guy was out there.

596
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.559
All right, Paul, you're ready. Paul gets the final Star

597
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:12.559
Trek five questions the evening. Yay, this is it, the

598
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:16.039
final final Star Trek five questions. I could have come

599
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:17.440
on and on and on with it, bunch, but I

600
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.599
think we get the point. All right, Paul. This is

601
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.719
a shuttle question, and the answer is not Galileo, because

602
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.400
we've already determined that Sulu destroyed that one with Emergency

603
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:31.280
Landing Plan B. But there was another shuttle in the movie.

604
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.760
What was the name of the shuttle that takes Cybok, Berks,

605
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.800
Spock and Bones to meet God?

606
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:40.280
There was another shuttle.

607
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.920
Yep, there was two of them. Sulu destroyed one and

608
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:46.760
then there was this one.

609
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.960
I'm pretty sure it was also called Galileo, But did

610
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.159
it have a different number to it, I believe.

611
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:01.719
Well with Galileo, put it be Galileo.

612
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:10.519
Five. All right, here's your here's your hint on this one.

613
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:11.840
It's not.

614
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:24.440
It's not Galleo, but it's another Renaissance era mathematician and

615
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:30.719
astronomer type guy Copernicus. Yes, that's it.

616
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:37.480
Really Okay, Wow, Well I've learned something amazing.

617
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.239
Hopefully you guys will be more educated and we'll enjoy

618
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:49.039
it more. With all these things that were, there will

619
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:50.079
be no next time.

620
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:54.199
Man, But you didn't ask about the whole I'm surprised

621
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.360
you didn't ask about the Chaka ree and how that

622
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:02.239
was a play on words for Sean Cooree, who they wanted.

623
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.159
But he was doing Indiana Jones and one of the

624
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:11.119
the monkey not the monkey brain one, but one of them. Yeah,

625
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:12.360
Crystal Skull, I think.

626
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.679
Ye, I do. I will say that. William Shatner called

627
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.840
up Leonard Mooy on opening night and said, we have

628
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.639
a hit on our hands because starts with five on

629
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.480
opening night gross the most money off any Star Trek

630
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:32.519
movie on opening.

631
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:34.239
Really, and he was right about that.

632
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.280
That was accurate, and then it made nothing after that.

633
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:43.039
But on opening on opening night, starts with five holds

634
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.760
the record for making the most money on opening.

635
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:49.400
And they told people what they'd seen.

636
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.280
Yeah, right, that's exactly true. And they the reason it

637
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.840
had a huge opening night was that everybody thought it

638
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:57.000
was the last Star Trek living.

639
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.000
Yep, the little bit. They know what they were in

640
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:06.800
for the best movie ever. So that's five the Final Front.

641
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.079
I have to go there, guys to get it out

642
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:09.559
of my blood.

643
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:13.679
Gugingly admit that was fun.

644
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:18.239
Yes, so I tried to keep the question I thought

645
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.480
was going to nail could Yeah, I know, And it's like,

646
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.199
where where was I I must have been like, I

647
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:24.559
don't know.

648
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:25.280
Was I high?

649
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:25.920
I don't know.

650
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.159
I feel like we need to test Jim on.

651
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:39.519
Yeah, you know, the Final Front TV with Uncle Jim.

652
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.599
And now we're going to move on to the meat

653
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.000
and potatoes, the part of the we're going to talk

654
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:47.719
about Star Trek Con. So that we're going to turn

655
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.440
to Paul to give us a quick of the episode.

656
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:51.280
I am.

657
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:55.840
It's a strange title, right, I mean, kind of is.

658
00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:01.079
But coming to the home stretching this we drama here, folks,

659
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:04.760
this podcast drama. And you know, I think we've been

660
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:06.760
through a lot and a lot still to come.

661
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.000
But this.

662
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.039
I would have to categorize this one. It's kind of

663
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.440
a deer jerker, right, I mean it, you know, should

664
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.119
come with at least one or two possible trigger warnings

665
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.280
for folks, depending on you know, what your history is.

666
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:23.159
But we got some big plot twists and big events

667
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:27.480
that unfold in this show. In particular, you know who's

668
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:31.679
mentioned in the title, but Marlon mcgivers, because you know,

669
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:33.760
this happened to me all the time. I try to

670
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.159
take a nice relaxing bath to the hotspring, and what happens.

671
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.800
I get attacked by a set of eels, right, and

672
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.320
I'm just not able to you know, it's just not able.

673
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.599
To relax and join me something. Right.

674
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.280
That's why I never go into a hot spring by myself,

675
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.360
because I need to make sure there's someone else that

676
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.960
I can push towards the eel if that should ever happen.

677
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:56.880
But anyhow, all joking aside, this happens to me who

678
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.960
we know is pregnant with Pond's daughter. And we actually

679
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.679
get a name for Khan's daughter, which is a great

680
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:09.039
trivia question. But is uh go ahead and say it's

681
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.880
name Collie, right, you know, which is a little bit

682
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.079
of a you know, maybe foreshadowing of not you know,

683
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.519
the best of things in some ways. But anyhow, seti

684
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:25.199
Eel burrows into her ear and she's ultimately killed. Right,

685
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.480
they don't really feel you know, it's kind of a

686
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.000
teta tet between Cohn's people and the Elborians. We're gonna

687
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.800
talk about the Olborians, I think a lot tonight. Maybe

688
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:39.760
they can keep her alive until their daughter is born.

689
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.559
But things don't go as they hoped they would. And

690
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:48.000
so Marlon mcguvers has of course been kind of Cohn's

691
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:52.159
north star, right, and this becomes her loss becomes a

692
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:56.199
pivotal moment for his character because he is consumed by grief,

693
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.639
and it basically begins this I guess you call the

694
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:05.719
solidification of his is blaming Kirk for his circumstances.

695
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.880
Right. Meanwhile, I don't know if.

696
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:10.840
I'm even remotely going in orders, trying to you know,

697
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:16.639
go from notes here. But is you know, sort of

698
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.280
assistant fellow Ivan whatever his rank or position is, is

699
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:24.800
being held captive by the Alborians, right, and it is

700
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.119
eventually sacrificed to save the rest of Khan's people, Right,

701
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:33.599
which is whoa a bit of a surprise, and CON's

702
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.079
loyalty to Ivan has kind of blinded him to who

703
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.199
Ivan has become at the stage of the game. And

704
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:45.199
there is a lot of distrust happening at this point, right,

705
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.920
Distrust in the Alborians, I would say, is increasing at

706
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.039
this point, right, And the Alborians have been trying to

707
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.400
build this ship to save everyone from the dying world,

708
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:03.199
and it gets crazy. There is the idea of restitution

709
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:06.719
being made for death, which turns out to be of

710
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:12.159
course who's responsible. And so we're at a bit of

711
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:13.719
a juncture point as things.

712
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:14.320
Are getting worse.

713
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.239
The Elborians are looking for a way to save their

714
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:21.880
own people and find a way to live alongside cons people.

715
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:27.079
But we've got this huge personal tragedy that happens in

716
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.840
the in the midst of all this. So, I mean,

717
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.760
that's that's kind of where we find ourselves.

718
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:34.800
It's an upsetting episode.

719
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.280
In a lot of ways, but I think it's an

720
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:40.559
emotionally rich one. I think, to me, this is one

721
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.639
where I think the actors, especially wrench Med, I think,

722
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.559
really came to deliver some quality work. But that's where

723
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.199
we find ourselves. So enough stage setting, let's talk about

724
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:57.000
this episode. I'm sure I've forgotten, so.

725
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.360
Just jump in. How about ladies first, you want to

726
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:03.519
get us started the Yeah.

727
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.679
So, as I was listening to it, as always, I

728
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.599
write down notes of things that stand out to me.

729
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:17.880
When Ivan is in the beginning, he's berating Khan and

730
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.800
he reminds him that we are the superior race and

731
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:26.559
basically it's all about you know, the planet belonging to

732
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:31.519
them and because we are superior, and of course my

733
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.639
historian's mind, it's like, how many times throughout the beginning

734
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.280
of you know, time have people said that it's like,

735
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.320
we are superior, so this is our world. So that

736
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:49.679
really resonated with me. Also sad. I just was so

737
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:56.159
sad at the just the enormous distrust that the Augments

738
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:01.519
have of the Elborians when they're you know, not they're

739
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.880
trying to help, you know, they're they're I mean, there's

740
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:08.960
so much and later on when Con has the conversation

741
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.960
with Delmanda, it's like, good God, this guy is trying

742
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:16.360
to help. They're building a freaking ship, and they're still

743
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:21.280
the distrust. But I did like the scene because it

744
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.800
reminded me of a Star Trek Voyager episode. But when

745
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:27.960
they're playing they found Ivans, I guess, because they cleared

746
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.239
out ivans quarters and they've got his his I guess,

747
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:35.280
boombox or whatever, and they're playing the music. And the

748
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.320
Alborians are fascinated by that because they're all, you know, telepaths,

749
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.079
so they don't really have music. But that reminds me

750
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:46.320
of the episode of Voyager when the doctor was humming

751
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.199
and those those I can't remember now what the people were,

752
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.679
but they were they had never heard music before. And

753
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.480
then he thought he was going to be a famous

754
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:58.280
singer on their planet and it just wound up not

755
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:03.960
working out for him. Let's see all the uh so,

756
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:09.719
everything that Delmando is offering, and I just I think

757
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.480
more than generous, and he that he even offered, uh

758
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.320
you know, when they were talking about Ivan, who killed

759
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:20.239
you know, one of the Elborians, and Delmondo's offering to

760
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.440
you know, do like I guess, basically a mind meld

761
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.320
with him and take out the part that made him

762
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:33.199
a killer. It's like, you know that that's that's just

763
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:38.639
enormously generous. And then of course we get to that

764
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:43.679
that terrible part where you have Marla, she's enjoying herself

765
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.039
in the hot springs and then she gets you know,

766
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:48.719
but I don't know if she did she get bidden

767
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:50.800
or did it get was she like, I didn't really

768
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.679
understand how the eel attacked her.

769
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:57.199
So these things I'm trying to figure this out. Are

770
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.800
they like amphibious, they fly through the air, they live

771
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:02.760
in the tree, they burrow in the ground. I don't know, yeah,

772
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.119
like like they're just like everywhere.

773
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:10.960
Yeah, she was enjoying herself. And then she says owl

774
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:15.719
and you know, I don't know, something like underwater if

775
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.000
it bid her, I don't I don't understand. But then

776
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:24.440
they break away from that and you've got Cohn and

777
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.559
Ivan together again and find out that Ivan is trying

778
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:33.320
to poison Kan because he's sneering at Khan wanting to

779
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:41.159
cooperate with the Alborians. And uh, then after what sounds

780
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:45.000
like a really you know, like a because I understand

781
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:51.039
these these men are they have superior strength. So they're tussling.

782
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:55.360
But then Ivan gets exiled and Con basically says, you're

783
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.639
just going to live your life. You can't come in

784
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.800
and you'll die. So that's I don't know, I guess

785
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:06.079
that's the end of Ivan. But then the heartbreaking part

786
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.960
of they should warn they should have you need a

787
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:12.639
box of tissues when you listen to this. So once again,

788
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.559
no trust or very little trust in the Alborians who

789
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:19.239
are trying to help Marla to see if they can

790
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.480
do anything, but unfortunately they can't because who is it

791
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:26.639
the doctor, doctor what's her face?

792
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:26.840
Said?

793
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.960
I can't believe you're letting an Alborian look at your wife.

794
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:33.039
It's like, come on, they're trying to they're trying to help,

795
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.239
and then they find, you know, there's there's nothing that

796
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.360
can be done. So that's absolutely heartbreaking. And all they

797
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.360
can do is try to save, you know, try to

798
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.320
save the baby or keep Marla alive long enough, and

799
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:54.960
that's that's so I don't know, it's just that's absolutely heartbreaking.

800
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:59.519
So now we know in the doctor tells them what

801
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:01.760
we we have to do. We just have to slow

802
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:06.960
down her brain functions, but she's going to stay alive

803
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.639
until the babies you know, comes to you know term

804
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.280
and can and can be born. So now we know

805
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:18.199
what absolutely has broken Khan and what made him the

806
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.920
man that we see, you know, in the Wrath of Khan.

807
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:28.599
But also one last that last scene it's just absolutely

808
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:32.559
heartbreaking because you've got the sound of her heartbeat that

809
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:38.320
is just going slower and slower, and and then as

810
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.599
he's getting me up, just kind of choking me up,

811
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:48.199
where Con is reciting Coleridge, which he had Marla loved

812
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:52.920
Coleridge but Con didn't. But yet as she's being put

813
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:57.000
I guess into a basically a I don't know if

814
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.719
it was a sleeping like a permanent sleeping state, but

815
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:04.320
she was alive to incubate the baby for instance, you know.

816
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:09.719
But he's just sobbing and reciting Cole Ridge and it

817
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:16.480
was just absolutely just gut wrenching. So that definitely I

818
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.320
don't know if I I think I break this one

819
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.719
at ten because it was it was that emotional and

820
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.079
that well done. So that's my take on it.

821
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:31.679
How did Ton know that Ivan was trying to poison

822
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:32.519
him with He.

823
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:36.920
Said something about he said, how you know, do you

824
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:40.800
expect me to not know that I've got a glass

825
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:44.119
of poisoned whatever it was, you know, being handed to me.

826
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:49.599
So he must have known that Ivan was going to

827
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.119
try that. I don't know that's I didn't really understand

828
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:53.840
that either, But.

829
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:59.039
Because maybe Delmonico told the movie.

830
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.960
I think he's I think I don't think that was

831
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.360
I don't remember hearing any I don't think so. I

832
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.800
don't know. That's a good question.

833
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.119
Yeah, you just kind of knew.

834
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:16.760
Yeah, maybe because he would have if they had been

835
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:19.639
maybe if they had been in you know, if the

836
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.519
tables had been turned, Con would have poisoned Ivan. That's

837
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:24.960
that's the only thing I can think of.

838
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:33.519
Yeah, yeah, so i'ven't bit the dust yep history. Eric,

839
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.920
you want to jump in next and share your thoughts, sure.

840
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:39.880
Yeah, I mean just relative to that last thought. Yeah,

841
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.559
I mean we've we've kind of seen Ivan's you know,

842
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.440
evil nature, I guess building for for many many weeks now.

843
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:51.000
And what was interesting to me was the whole idea

844
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:55.639
that Khan, you know, Ivan's like, you've changed, and CON's like, yeah,

845
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.880
I've changed. I can do things now that I couldn't

846
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.920
do before. And so there's been personal growth by Khan

847
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:05.800
that even feels like has left him behind or or

848
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.199
you know, is not part of the old ways or whatever.

849
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.119
It was nice to see. I even get his just

850
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.039
deserts tall day. But I really like the way this

851
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.480
episode started. So it once again started in the future

852
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:25.000
time with Tuvac and Lear doctor Lear chatting with one another,

853
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.039
and we find out something pretty cool, which is that

854
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:36.440
the logs were found in a salvaged vessel of some kind.

855
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.079
So if you connect that to the fact that the

856
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:44.079
Aliens are building the four seater vessel, I think we

857
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:46.280
know that this vessel is going to make it off

858
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:49.039
the planet. Now we don't know who goes, but I

859
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:53.480
think the logs go with the ship. So that's kind

860
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:54.760
of a cool thing to know.

861
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:55.320
Now.

862
00:53:56.639 --> 00:54:00.599
I love just the battle between Tuvac and Lear. How

863
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.280
Lear is just kind of like pushing forward and Tuvak

864
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.199
feels like he's trying to hold her back or somehow

865
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:12.719
like protect you know, the legacy of Kirk and and

866
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.000
kind of people from back in the day. So anyway,

867
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:19.440
really like that's a total side story to the real

868
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:21.840
meat and potatoes in this episode. But I really like

869
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:26.159
that opener. Okay, fast forward to the later stuff. I

870
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:29.599
totally agree with the man this this is a tear jerker.

871
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.800
The poem and everything just I was not expected, Like

872
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.079
I kin'd we all knew that mcgivers was gonna that's

873
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.639
gonna die at some point, but I just wasn't quite

874
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:45.719
like ready for it, I guess, And so it did.

875
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:52.960
It did hit me? Yeah, surprisingly hit me. Uh, let

876
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:53.840
me see what else?

877
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:56.079
You know?

878
00:54:56.360 --> 00:55:02.519
Kahn and Ivan their whole conversation where Ivan's all like,

879
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:06.760
you know, we got to dominate these people and Con

880
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.039
is saying something different. I think was kind of interesting.

881
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:12.679
What else do I have in my notes here?

882
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:15.000
Yeah?

883
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.679
I think V just really hit it on the head

884
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:19.800
when you were talking about the Elborians and about how

885
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:22.639
they're just constantly trying to help. And at first when

886
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:25.239
they brought aliens into this story, I just didn't really

887
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:28.079
I don't know, it was kind of like, ah, why

888
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:32.800
are they mucking this up? But I'm seeing how they

889
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:38.440
are the catalyst for developing past macgivers, for developing any

890
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:45.000
sort of you know, empathetic version of Con. Now what

891
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.039
I'm a little worried about, which I think is where

892
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.280
this is going. But maybe I shouldn't So maybe I

893
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.400
shouldn't be worried about it. But like, is the ultimate

894
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:58.639
message of this entire nine episode series gonna be if

895
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:02.039
you kick a man enough times, he turns into a

896
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:05.960
jerk and tries to steal your starship. You know, Like,

897
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:10.960
I don't know, I want one more moment for con

898
00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:19.599
where he kind of triumphs passed the the revenge stage.

899
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.119
You know, I don't know. This is one of the

900
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.079
things that you sort of run into sometimes when you

901
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:26.559
listen or watch a series that you already know the

902
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:31.639
ending to. You know, you got to hope that the story,

903
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:33.280
the meat and potatoes of the story, is good enough

904
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:35.760
to kind of carry you through. So anyway, I really

905
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:38.199
liked this episode. I don't know if it was the

906
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:41.159
best absolute best one. It certainly was a tear jerker,

907
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:43.400
and I thought it was really well written, and I

908
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.679
like some of the little personal interactions that happened. So

909
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:47.000
I'm going to give this one a nine.

910
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.400
Nine. How about you, Charles, what do you think? Share

911
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:52.960
your thoughts?

912
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.280
That's of interesting the opener. I think I agree with Eric.

913
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:04.800
The conflict between her and Tuvox and to the Tuvox.

914
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:04.840
Is just.

915
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:11.239
He seems to be very oppositional to what she what

916
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:17.280
she's doing. Suddenly it's like, Okay, last episode he was supportive.

917
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:20.360
Now is sin he seems to be opposed to what's

918
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.880
going on or there's something that he's not going to

919
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:29.639
admit what's going on with this species or ship Because

920
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.280
he's I'm going to be monitoring all your stuff and

921
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:34.119
I'm going to be hard on you trying to see

922
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:40.000
what's in these logs. It's like they're really trying to

923
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:44.760
push trying to protect Kirk, and I think there's another

924
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:50.039
story going on that. I think he's the Tuomics realized

925
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.320
there's another story going on. I just don't think if

926
00:57:52.360 --> 00:58:01.159
he wants to really let that information out, which was interesting, definitely,

927
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:03.280
I havenan. I think Ivan was going over the top.

928
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:07.679
He was ready to sit there and conquer anybody that

929
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:11.400
wasn't of his species, which kind of just got a

930
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:15.400
little a little much for it. It's like, Okay, the

931
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:20.639
Givers was trying to tone tone con down, and yet

932
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:23.519
Ivan is just trying to sit there and ruin all

933
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:27.840
of this, and it's one to sacrifice it just to say, oh,

934
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:32.000
we're the tough civilization. It's like, Okay, there's a civilization

935
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:35.159
trying to help you here, and you're refusing to accept

936
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.400
the help. You want to conquer them instead of getting help. Oh,

937
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.400
we're gonna conquer them and take the ship. No, because

938
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:45.480
you don't know how to fly that ship. So I

939
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.559
think he was kind of a point of being happy

940
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:52.880
that ivan it is going to get shoved away because

941
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.280
I think he's getting a little way too out of hand.

942
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:00.639
As for the SETI eel, I wonder if the set

943
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:04.159
of eel might almost swim also and was trying to

944
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:09.800
it was trying to embed itself in her foot or

945
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.599
where she was sinking down into the water, but swim

946
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:14.199
in tried to get into her.

947
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:16.519
So you.

948
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.440
We don't know a lot about these seat of eels

949
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:23.000
or then yeah, there's a good reason why they're a

950
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:26.159
difficult species on this planet.

951
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.599
I mean, the one thing. So let's logic this out.

952
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.719
So they the inevitably they want to get to the brainstem.

953
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.840
It seems like, right, that's sort of an ultimate destination

954
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:41.400
for your set of eel. So so the the easy

955
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.599
ways that we've seen to get there are via the ear,

956
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:47.559
you know, presumably like you could go in anywhere in

957
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:52.000
your general stinuses like mouth or you know, any of

958
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:56.320
that kind of stuff. You probably it probably doesn't I

959
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:58.320
don't think. I don't think it would like enter like

960
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:01.079
just through some random to your body. Right, So it

961
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:03.599
must be that she dunked her head under or.

962
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.280
Her head or into the water something.

963
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:09.639
Yeah, that was somebody said that was a little bit

964
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:11.480
of a weird moment where you're like, no, wait a second,

965
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:13.400
these things live in the water too.

966
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.039
Well, I was thinking any other or if it answered

967
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:21.119
another orifice, it wouldn't end up at her brain, would

968
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:22.360
I mean, those systems don't.

969
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:28.480
Okay, I'm going to put it out there. There's there's

970
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:31.119
some sort of parasite. I think it's in the Amazon

971
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:38.400
River that can make its way, you know, in in

972
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:42.400
male body parts and it's got like tea. Yeah, so

973
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:46.119
that's what I immediately thought of that. It's like, I think, yeah,

974
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:46.960
you're probably right.

975
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:48.960
I don't know why I thought this one's got to

976
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:53.199
make its way to Yeah, that parasite.

977
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:54.079
It's called a lawyer.

978
01:00:57.079 --> 01:00:59.480
But I missed that. You blinked out what.

979
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:01.960
A lawyer?

980
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:04.079
It's called a lawyer?

981
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:13.280
Went right up the guys who who?

982
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:19.679
And yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean it's the real thing.

983
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:21.400
To move on from that top.

984
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:25.519
H Well, I was listening to the podcast. I'm thinking

985
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:28.679
to myself, how how did the e get into her

986
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.039
ear without her noticing? Like, if you're sitting there in

987
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.519
the water and this thing starts crawling, you wouldn't you

988
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:37.559
notice it before it got in your ear.

989
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:41.480
I mean, maybe it wasn't. Maybe it wasn't in the

990
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:44.559
water gym. Maybe it actually dropped down from the ceiling

991
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:45.440
of the cavern above.

992
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:49.079
Yeah, that's what I do, like a tree that.

993
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:54.639
Or crawled up to her on the backside, like, you know,

994
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:56.639
because she was leaning up against.

995
01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:58.760
The uh and be like, hey, lady, what do you

996
01:01:58.840 --> 01:01:59.920
think of me going in your ear?

997
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.039
And maybe this was like the male version of that

998
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.840
specie where they didn't bite, where the females like to

999
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:09.440
call into you.

1000
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:17.159
Maybe I don't know either way. Horrifying, Yeah, yeah, very much.

1001
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:22.519
So I think I'll give this one eight point five

1002
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:29.119
on it, all right, David?

1003
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.159
How do you at eight point David? I have your

1004
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.199
shirt by the way, Oh, thank you.

1005
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:35.559
I picked it up somewhere.

1006
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.840
I can't remember if they look familiar those dudes.

1007
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:43.840
Yeah, I was gonna say anything.

1008
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.760
We need a little iron on patch, like to add

1009
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:47.639
V in the corner.

1010
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:53.480
I've got like a little uh uh clip like she's reaching.

1011
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:53.840
For my back.

1012
01:02:56.599 --> 01:03:05.679
I don't know, I don't know, I don't, are you well? One? Okay?

1013
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:17.599
The episode d talk so yeah, we talked a lot

1014
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:19.559
about the city and now we're going to be My

1015
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:23.280
take on the whole idea where she got bit because

1016
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:26.079
apparently she did say al like it may have bit

1017
01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:27.719
her like on the back of the neck or something,

1018
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.440
and so I guess we covered that part, but it

1019
01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:33.599
was another part I thought was kind of interesting where

1020
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:37.079
Tuvac at the very beginning was talking about, uh how

1021
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.719
he literally said, like how some Vulcans cannot lie, so

1022
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:45.800
it makes me think that some Valcans do. But then

1023
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.920
he said some Vulcans are incapable of lying. So I

1024
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:53.280
was like, that's an interesting point on like this whole thing,

1025
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:56.400
where like are Vulcans really lying or are they just

1026
01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:59.760
kind of like telling truth? But I mean, you know,

1027
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.400
I did like that that whole sequence where he were

1028
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.840
talking about and clearing up the idea that some Volcans

1029
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:10.239
actually do lie, So I actually thought that was pretty cool.

1030
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.159
Another thing that I thought was interesting was that the

1031
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.840
the music right, since they never heard of music before

1032
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:24.920
and everything. I was like, oh, man, I hope they

1033
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.480
don't bump into Dress and Cochrane because she's still gonna

1034
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:32.880
go wild with the music. So but other than that,

1035
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.719
I thought it was kind of a little weird that

1036
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:39.880
even for a telepathic race, I mean, as long as

1037
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:43.239
you have any kind of sound that they couldn't come

1038
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.639
up with music. I don't know that part. For some reason,

1039
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:49.199
this doesn't really trigger with me. I guess I mean

1040
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:53.840
any species, I mean, even animals who can't speak knows

1041
01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:57.039
what music are. So to me, I just thought that

1042
01:04:57.159 --> 01:04:59.159
was a little strain that they did never heard of

1043
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:00.239
music before show.

1044
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:05.800
To me, I was like, okay, uh, something different, David

1045
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:08.159
that in space no one can hear you scream, so

1046
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.000
and likewise, in space no one can hear music, so

1047
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:15.199
you know, unless it's song.

1048
01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:20.800
Okay. But another thing is that can someone clear this

1049
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:24.079
up to me? So in the very beginning of this podcast,

1050
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:30.880
they started talking about how the the augment they can't

1051
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.760
seem to have babies, right is that the thing?

1052
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.719
Because apparently cannot have babies, the males can.

1053
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:45.800
Have Okay, I'm gonna say, how did con get or pregnant?

1054
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.199
Because I thought the augment couldn't have babies.

1055
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:52.000
That was the whole thing with you, Quim, because he

1056
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:53.440
was half.

1057
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.800
And half okay, okay.

1058
01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:02.079
And then they one woman that did get pregnant because

1059
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:08.480
I think the doctor I can't think of that, and

1060
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:12.559
then and then she lost it when they were in

1061
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:19.400
that cave and the cave collapsed. Yeah, so that was

1062
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:20.440
that was very smart.

1063
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:23.199
Okay, yeah for somebody that was really confused me, I

1064
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:25.119
was like, wait a minute, if they can't have baby,

1065
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:29.440
how could con way? Anyway? But yeah, I do have

1066
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.800
to agree with all of you guys that, uh, the

1067
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:36.079
guy who played con did a really excellent job with

1068
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:40.400
the way he handled that whole emotional scene and that

1069
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:45.840
which like whoa. So that to me was kind of

1070
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.719
a shilling point on my end where the whole episode.

1071
01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:52.719
That was probably my favorite acting part of the entire episode.

1072
01:06:54.360 --> 01:07:00.199
Other than that, I think this episode, I think we're

1073
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.440
gonna have to go a little higher with this one

1074
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:06.159
and probably give it a I think I'm going to

1075
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:07.519
go for Chevan on this one.

1076
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:13.079
Well, I reached out to end Schmid Paul to have

1077
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:16.519
her come on our podcast. I told her we've been

1078
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:20.519
reviewing Star Trek con and we would love to get

1079
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:24.960
her intake on Marla mc ivers. So hopefully she will

1080
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:26.559
get back to me and we can talk to her

1081
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.960
on the show about the podcast. Let's hope that that

1082
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:37.639
pans out. So anyways, so yeah, I did enjoy this episode.

1083
01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:40.719
I thought I haven't got what he deserved. I mean,

1084
01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:43.519
he killed the dude in the beginning there, threw him

1085
01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:46.239
off the mountain. He threw you go off the mount

1086
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:50.320
and against Cohn's wishes, and he stomped the little Delmonico

1087
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:53.679
guy in the face and killed him, tried to kill Khn.

1088
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:56.440
So this dude, this dude was a bad a again.

1089
01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.480
He needed to go and con gave him exactly what

1090
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:03.760
he deserves. You went. So that's that was put Uh

1091
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:07.639
talking about Tuvac and Lear. So Lear says that she

1092
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:12.159
got the logs from Delmonico. So what's the deal with

1093
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:13.440
that if.

1094
01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:18.359
She didn't know, she didn't say that she Tuvac. Hold on, yes,

1095
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:23.720
is that true that she well, she got him from

1096
01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:29.560
the so Tuvac tells her her so Delmonico. Yeah, but

1097
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:30.479
the ship the.

1098
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:37.199
Demonic survives because she gets the logs the Delmonico either

1099
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:41.920
gives them to her or tells her somehow. She's communicating

1100
01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:46.960
with Delmonico in reference to these logs. Okay, somehow whether

1101
01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:53.359
he told her so. So Delmonico is alive at some

1102
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:56.159
point and he says they're building a ship, but then

1103
01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.760
he tells ton the ship is only big enough for four,

1104
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:01.000
I did I.

1105
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:04.600
Get that mainly to it was. It was mainly to

1106
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:09.520
get help and then come back and get the other people.

1107
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:14.239
But Delmanda, because every time I said, I think of

1108
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:19.319
Delmonico's steak and that makes me hungry. But but I

1109
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:21.520
thought I thought two Bucks said in the beginning or

1110
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:24.319
something about where did you get these? And she says, Delmanda,

1111
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:26.840
And then did you ever see him again? And she

1112
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.439
says no. So I don't know what that was. All

1113
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:31.479
of that was interesting.

1114
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:36.119
So maybe that you get wrap she had to lea

1115
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:37.239
from whatever.

1116
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:41.840
Yeah, maybe she went to get a steak and he

1117
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:48.439
was there, you know, But yeah, I find it. I'm

1118
01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:53.319
not quite sure what thread uh is going on between

1119
01:09:53.680 --> 01:10:00.199
Leir and this Delmonico dude, del Monta. Something's there. Why

1120
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:03.359
would this dude care about conn in the first place?

1121
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:03.479
What?

1122
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:03.680
What?

1123
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:07.359
What skin does he have in the fight? Why would

1124
01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:11.880
he even reach out to lear about these these logs? What?

1125
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:16.079
What's what does he gain from that? So I'm waiting

1126
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:19.960
to find out what the connection is with that whole situation,

1127
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:23.439
why he even cares, because obviously he got off the

1128
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:26.800
planet or the logs wouldn't be there and he wouldn't

1129
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:29.159
have been able to get him to her, And what

1130
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:32.079
exactly is her game? What is she looking for? Like?

1131
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.760
What is she trying to prove that Con was actually

1132
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.880
an angel who was dancing around in the tiptoeing through

1133
01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:41.279
the tul of playing a ukulele and you know, spreading

1134
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:43.399
love and joy? I mean, what what? What is she

1135
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:47.399
trying to prove here? That what we know about Con

1136
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:50.960
isn't true? Is that her deal? Like that he wasn't

1137
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:53.920
a mass murderer and anything like that. So you know,

1138
01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:55.920
I don't know what she's after, and I don't know

1139
01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:59.960
what this del Mondo dude is after, but I didn't

1140
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:02.520
enjoy it. I think that Eric was right. I think

1141
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:07.000
the death of Marla is because Con, I think, is

1142
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:12.199
going in a good direction. He's dealing with the aliens.

1143
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:17.680
He's you know, he's kind of trusting the alien and

1144
01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:22.359
he's going against his nature on Marla's wishes, and she's

1145
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:24.800
pushing him in that direction. But now that Marla is

1146
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:27.520
out of the picture, I think we're going to see

1147
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:30.319
the Con that we see in Rata Khan, you know,

1148
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:32.359
come out. I think he's going to look up at

1149
01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:37.079
the sky, He's going to yell, you know, I think

1150
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:41.520
we're seeing again. I think the revenge is starting to

1151
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:44.800
seek in and we're going to see that that vengeful,

1152
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:48.199
hateful Cohn e merge out of the death of Marla

1153
01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:51.960
I think. I mean, I haven't listened to next week's episode,

1154
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.039
so I don't know yet, but that's what I'm thinking.

1155
01:11:55.960 --> 01:12:01.680
What else, I'm more interested in the Kuvok's Sulu lear

1156
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:07.840
triangle deal going on on the Excelsior myself, because you know,

1157
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:12.520
Sulu was there, one of the few people that was

1158
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.920
and uh, I'm interested to see where that whole thing goes.

1159
01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:19.239
Why he you know, he volunteered to bring her there,

1160
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.640
He had two x by on her what she's doing.

1161
01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:26.720
You got the Delmondo thing kicking around in there too,

1162
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:31.079
and then you know, if they truly telepathic alien, why

1163
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:34.279
didn't Delmondo just like mentally just dumped the crap into

1164
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:37.920
her brain and say here you go, molis over. You

1165
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:38.920
know he could have done that.

1166
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:42.000
Would have overwhelmed her.

1167
01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:46.600
It could have been her brain could have burst like

1168
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:47.960
a giant zip. That's true.

1169
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:56.000
But oh my god, yeah, I I did.

1170
01:12:56.159 --> 01:13:01.159
I did enjoy the episode, and yeah, I'm gonna go

1171
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:04.199
with the eight point five on this one for sure,

1172
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:07.399
and that brings us full circle on the overall.

1173
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:12.720
Yeah, there's a lot of this episode I really like.

1174
01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:15.039
I love all the Marlo Guiris stuff. I think is

1175
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:18.960
really great. I find some of the plotting though, with

1176
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:22.560
the aliens and things a little upduse, and maybe it's

1177
01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:24.720
one of those things that when we finally watch or

1178
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:27.640
listen to the last two episodes will make a little

1179
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:30.079
more sense. But I find some of that stuff just

1180
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:34.279
not you know, I'm a little torn, I think, to

1181
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:37.239
be legit, honest, I think probably for me an eight

1182
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:40.920
is accurate. I think on there, So that's where I

1183
01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:43.680
think I'll land. I mean, you know again, it's it's

1184
01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:47.399
very sad, it's very emotional stuff. But it just goes

1185
01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:49.600
to show you, I mean, you know, the challenges with

1186
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:53.479
this right radio essentially right, it's like the old radio

1187
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:57.159
place as opposed to television. We can see everything, I mean,

1188
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:00.199
not everybody hears and imagines it the same way. Where

1189
01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:02.439
you know, like when we're talking about the SETI eel right,

1190
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.479
everyone's there's a lot of internal confusion where everybody is

1191
01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:10.000
not super clear on what was depicted. Right, So it's

1192
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:11.479
a very challenging medium to work in.

1193
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:18.039
Yeah, we do a podcast every week and look like

1194
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:19.039
confusing we are.

1195
01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:22.840
So I didn't think I even died.

1196
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:27.159
That's how he got He got exiled because they CON said,

1197
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:31.720
you're you're leaving and you can't you can't come because

1198
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:36.960
they're they're moving everything into the underground chamber, and so

1199
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:41.560
CON says you cannot come here, so you just you

1200
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.359
will live on the surface of the planet until you die,

1201
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:48.039
basically is if I recall correctly.

1202
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:56.800
Yep, he exiled him. So any find all thoughts on

1203
01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:02.119
Con the radio drama. All right, Well that wraps it up.

1204
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:04.920
So what's over the School of Chanels from the Truck Spirts.

1205
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:11.600
Well, it's interesting because Jim and I kind of balanced

1206
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.960
it out exactly. It came to an eight point five.

1207
01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:21.880
Wow, okay, awesome, awesome, awesome of them. So eight point

1208
01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:23.800
five from the Trucks first, guys, you don't want to

1209
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:26.239
miss it. Check it out, and hopefully we can get

1210
01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.680
Ren Smit on the podcast. That would be would working

1211
01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:31.800
on it, working on it, working on it. I got

1212
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:33.920
a lot of things working on that one, in particular.

1213
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:36.720
I'm a psyched about all right, guys, So now it's

1214
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:40.359
time to move on to our Star Trek birthdays and

1215
01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:43.039
or actually our sci Fi birthdays, I should say, because

1216
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:47.399
we're going beyond and so maybe we need a new song.

1217
01:15:47.479 --> 01:16:08.239
I don't know, but anyways, here we Go. That was

1218
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:12.079
not a Clinton song, although I do like the song.

1219
01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:14.239
Though I do like the song. But maybe we can

1220
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.880
come up with a different graphic that like sci Fi

1221
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:21.359
birthdays with Ripley or something in there. The Miracle Worker.

1222
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:23.119
We'll work on it, will work on it, but I

1223
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:25.399
like the song. I think we'll keep the Klingon song.

1224
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:29.399
Well has changed a graphic. So guys, every week we

1225
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.279
like to do our scy five birthdays Afterhere we Go

1226
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:36.960
beyond Star Trek catchy, and we always like to start

1227
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:39.439
off by remembering those members of our sci fi family,

1228
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:42.520
sadly enough, are no longer with us, and for that

1229
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:44.359
we turned to Eric.

1230
01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:47.399
Yeah Jim. This week we remember eight members of our

1231
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:49.840
Star Trek community who have gone before us. The first

1232
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:53.760
is actor Carl Steven. Carl Stephen was the actor who

1233
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.640
played the nine year old version of Spock in Star

1234
01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:59.600
Trek three, The Search First Bock. This was his first

1235
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:05.159
Eat Your film appearance. He actually again played the younger

1236
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.439
version of a Leonard Nimoy character in the nineteen ninety

1237
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:13.039
one made for television movie Never Forget, directed by Joseph Sargent.

1238
01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:15.439
So kind of a fun and interesting thing that he's

1239
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:19.359
actually portrayed a young version of Leonard Nimoy twice. He

1240
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:22.760
was briefly a regular performer on the series Webster in

1241
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:26.239
that nineteen eighty six to nineteen eighty seven seasons. You

1242
01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:29.960
may have remembered that particular face right there from that

1243
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.159
television show. And he was in a few of those

1244
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:36.680
other eighties movies like Teen Wolf and Honeye Shrunk the Kids,

1245
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:39.880
and a couple other ones along the way. So tragic

1246
01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:43.439
and unfortunately to Carl Stevens's life lost at thirty six

1247
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:46.920
years old, but we appreciate his contributions to Star Trek.

1248
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:50.159
So happy birthday to Carl Stephen, Happy birthday as well

1249
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:53.880
to Julian Christopher. The actor who credited as James Lewis

1250
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:57.680
Watkins played Hagen in the Next Generation first season episode

1251
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:01.640
Code of Honor. Then he later played a Cardassian overseer

1252
01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:05.560
in the Deep Space nine second season episode Tribunal, Credited

1253
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:09.319
once again with his original name of Julian Christopher, he

1254
01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:12.159
was among the actors considered for the role of Wharf

1255
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:15.600
on the Next Generation, but was eventually beaten out by

1256
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:19.239
Michael Dorn. He co starred in a couple of bl

1257
01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:22.279
exploitation films back in the Day, in nineteen seventy two's

1258
01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:26.800
Cool Breeze and also Black Gun from the same year.

1259
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:30.560
He was in a few other things along the way,

1260
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:33.319
but he's probably best known for his reoccurring role as

1261
01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:38.159
doctor McIntyre on the popular television series Smallville, which features

1262
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:41.039
Superman and other characters from the DC comic universe. So

1263
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:45.279
happy birthday to Julian Christopher Lost just a couple of

1264
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:49.039
years ago, back in twenty twenty three. Happy birthday as

1265
01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:52.159
well to Norman Lloyd, the actor who played Professor Galen

1266
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:56.359
in the Next Generation six season episode The Chase. Norman

1267
01:18:56.439 --> 01:19:00.439
Lloyd best known to television audiences for playing doctor Daniel

1268
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:04.159
Auschlander on the drama series St. Elsewhere from nineteen eighty

1269
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:07.640
two through nineteen eighty eight. He began his career in

1270
01:19:07.680 --> 01:19:11.720
show business performing in theater before Alfred Hedgecock cast him

1271
01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:16.479
as Frank Frye in nineteen forty two's Saboteur. So that's

1272
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:20.159
kind of a cool little beginning to a career, and

1273
01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:23.920
this guy at one point he was the oldest. He

1274
01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:26.319
was the person who was the oldest who had lived

1275
01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:28.399
that had been in Star Trek. But anyway, he's like

1276
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:30.640
second or third on the list. But this guy lived

1277
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.800
to be one hundred and six years old, so we

1278
01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:36.159
lost him back in twenty twenty one. He was born

1279
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:44.319
in nineteen fourteen, so happy birthday to Norman Lloyd. Professor Gallen,

1280
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:48.239
Happy birthday as well to Nicholas Kepros, the actor who

1281
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:51.279
played Movar in The Next Generation fourth and fifth season

1282
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:55.279
episodes Redemption and Redemption Part two. Nicholas appeared in a

1283
01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:58.319
handful of films, most notably nineteen eighty four's Academy Award

1284
01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:02.279
winning drama Amedais. Other films and made for television movies

1285
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.000
he appeared in, including from the same year, eighty four's

1286
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:09.520
Grace Quigley, eighty six's Apology, and nineteen ninety four's quiz Show,

1287
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:13.479
among others. Nineteen eighty three, he played the voice of

1288
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:18.800
Captain Nida in the NPR version of the Empire Strikes

1289
01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:21.560
Back radio drama. I didn't even know there was such

1290
01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:24.000
a thing, but Nicholas Cambrose was there. Part of it,

1291
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:26.439
so we lost him back in January twenty twenty three,

1292
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:31.119
at ninety years old. Happy birthday to Nicholas CapROS. Happy

1293
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:36.359
birthday to Thelma Lee, the actress who portrayed Kylest in

1294
01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.640
the Next Generation's third season episode Sins of the Father.

1295
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:42.720
She started her career as a comedian in the comedy

1296
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:46.079
series Toast of the Town in the early nineteen sixties,

1297
01:20:47.039 --> 01:20:50.000
and has credits for a few films and other things

1298
01:20:50.119 --> 01:20:54.000
along the way. Among her last note appearances are the

1299
01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:57.079
comedy Always Say Goodbye and two episodes of the remake

1300
01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:00.279
series love Boat the Next Wave from nineteen ninety eight.

1301
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:01.600
Anybody remember that one?

1302
01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:02.079
No?

1303
01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:02.680
Me, neither.

1304
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:03.000
No.

1305
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:08.000
But but there she is. There isn't a John Carpenter classic.

1306
01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:12.680
They live Live. Yes, there she is in all of

1307
01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:14.159
her alien beauty.

1308
01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:18.000
So Thelmalle And if you can't remember who Klest is,

1309
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:20.920
remember this is Wharf's nurse maid. So she is an

1310
01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:25.079
important kind of secondary character, somebody who you know was

1311
01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:28.119
there at the beginning of WORF. But Thelmaly the actress

1312
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:30.960
lived to be ninety five years old. We lost her

1313
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:31.920
back in twenty twelve.

1314
01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:34.439
Happy pers She's the one that she's the one that

1315
01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:37.239
kim Peck had the hot sporting and she told kim Peck,

1316
01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:40.960
you are still fat, Yeah, yep, which Paul had earlier

1317
01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:46.119
which he was played by Charlie Cooper, who was General

1318
01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:48.439
Quota STI Final Frontier.

1319
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:49.119
WHOA who knew?

1320
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:49.880
I don't know that.

1321
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:50.760
No one knew that.

1322
01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:54.359
People don't know about that movie popular Was that a

1323
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:55.359
good movie? I don't know?

1324
01:21:56.560 --> 01:22:02.920
Away of the verse was old Happy Birthday as well

1325
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:07.239
as we move along to Vincent Chiavelli and Vincent Chiavelli

1326
01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:11.000
was a character actor who appeared as the holographic Minojian

1327
01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:14.920
peddler in the Next Generation's first season episode The Arsenal

1328
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:18.399
of Freedom. He had a role as a patient in

1329
01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:20.920
the nineteen seventy five Academy Award winning film One Flew

1330
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:24.600
Over the Cuckoo's Nest, of Course, directed by Milos Foreman,

1331
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:29.159
and had later collaborations with Foreman as well, including amedeash

1332
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:30.880
My God, this is the second actor we've had for

1333
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:33.239
Amadeus Tonight, which is, by the way, is a great

1334
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:35.359
movie if you haven't seen it for a while. On

1335
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:38.680
Tales from the Crypt, chiavell appeared in the episode Morn

1336
01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:40.840
and Mess and you know this guy's face. I mean

1337
01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:43.920
we're talking X files. We're talking over one hundred and

1338
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:48.239
fifty different film and television shows that this guy's been on.

1339
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:52.079
So you name it, he did it. Very striking appearance.

1340
01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:54.840
Lost back in two thousand and five and only fifty

1341
01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:59.319
seven years old. Happy birthday to Vincent Chiavelli, and now

1342
01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:01.840
going be on, we would like to say happy birthday

1343
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:05.800
to Roy Scheider. That's right, Roy Scheider. Although his film

1344
01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:10.000
career commenced with the campy Z grade horror cheese fest

1345
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:13.159
The Curse of the Living Corpse in nineteen sixty four,

1346
01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:16.199
he was best known for his leading role as police

1347
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:19.960
Chief Martin C. Brody in the first two Jaws movies.

1348
01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:24.399
He of course, is well beloved by many members of

1349
01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:29.079
our staff here at Trek, talking as the Captain Nathan Bridger,

1350
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:34.000
designer and Commander of the Naval submarine Squest DSV for

1351
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:41.279
three seasons Star Trek Underwater right. Schider also played a

1352
01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:45.000
rebellious helicopter pilot in the John Badam conspiracy action film

1353
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:48.680
Blue Thunder from nineteen eighty three, which when I was

1354
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:51.279
a kid, I was personally all about the helicopters, So

1355
01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:54.279
Airwolf and Blue Thunder were like two of my favorite shows.

1356
01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:58.520
And another little place where he crosses over into things

1357
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:00.600
that I like is that he was actually in the

1358
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:03.199
sequel to one of my favorite movies two thousand and one,

1359
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:05.479
which of course was called twenty ten The Year We

1360
01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:07.000
Make Contact for nineteen eighty five.

1361
01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:08.520
That was a good movie. I saw that in the

1362
01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:12.319
movie Theater. That was really all these worlds, are you worse?

1363
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:15.399
Yeah, except.

1364
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:20.199
I oh yeah, so.

1365
01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:27.199
They go exactly to the So Roy Scheider pretty cool

1366
01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:29.840
guy in lots of cool science fiction stuff. We've got

1367
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:32.560
a couple others up there, you know, naked lunch and

1368
01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:36.000
other things. So happy birthday to Roy Scheider. We appreciate

1369
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:39.039
your contributions to the Star Trek, not Star Trek, to

1370
01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:40.279
the science fiction world.

1371
01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:44.760
And last, we're going to need a bigger boat.

1372
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:50.760
Yeah, and last, but not least, on our beyond list.

1373
01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:54.239
This week we celebrate the life of Kim Hunter, the

1374
01:24:54.319 --> 01:24:59.000
American theater, film, and television actress who portrayed the Chimpanzee

1375
01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:03.119
Zerra Planet of the Apes in nineteen sixty eight. Also,

1376
01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:05.520
it sequels Beneath the Planet of the Apes from nineteen

1377
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:08.000
seventy and Escape from the Planet of the apes from

1378
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:11.840
nineteen seventy one, but her chops go all the way

1379
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:15.319
back to nineteen fifty one. In a little movie you

1380
01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:19.640
might have heard of something about a streetcar named Desire.

1381
01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:21.920
I don't know, I've heard it's not very good anyway.

1382
01:25:22.039 --> 01:25:24.720
She played Stella in one of the best movies of

1383
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:29.760
all time. I mean, no big deal, right. She also

1384
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:32.760
has a ton of like little television onesie twesy things.

1385
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.399
But she was in on one hundred and thirteen episodes

1386
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:39.119
of the Edge of Night playing a character named Nola

1387
01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:42.479
Madison from nineteen seventy nine to nineteen eighty and her

1388
01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:45.279
last credit was for an episode of the Education of

1389
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:48.720
Max Pickford in two thousand and one. Unfortunately, we would

1390
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:50.720
lose her just the very next year in two thousand

1391
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:53.920
and two. Over one hundred and forty acting credits on

1392
01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:59.359
her IMDb page Kim Hunter very talented, very prolific. Happy

1393
01:25:59.439 --> 01:26:03.640
Birthday to her and the awesome ape Zerra. And that

1394
01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:07.600
does it for our remembrances, guys. So perhaps I shall

1395
01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:11.880
pass my flaming birthday candle over to Let's see maybe.

1396
01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:16.760
Charles, Oh, thank you, Eric. Let all start off for

1397
01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:21.760
the birthday of Happy birthday to Vadal Peterson, who played

1398
01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:28.840
Detan in TG's fifth season episode Unification and Rugall in

1399
01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:36.119
DS nine second season episode Cardassians. Happy birthday to Laurie Lidley,

1400
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:41.359
who played Sianna in DS nine seventh season episode Shadows

1401
01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:47.439
and Symbols. Have birthday to every Strang who played Admiral

1402
01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:52.319
Tallar in DS nine four season episode Rules of Engagement,

1403
01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:56.399
Eric another admiral who does left.

1404
01:26:57.800 --> 01:26:58.079
Okay.

1405
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:03.119
Happy birthday to Max Groschik, best known for his patrol

1406
01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:09.359
as Rom in DAS nine and Lower Decks. Very Happy birthday, Max.

1407
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:17.600
Happy birthday Tommy Earl Jerkins, actress your Voice Commander Adrick,

1408
01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:21.920
who in produce first and Secondies episodes Pray Ludes and

1409
01:27:22.119 --> 01:27:24.199
Who's saved his Saviors.

1410
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:28.000
Character.

1411
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:30.560
That was definitely a good.

1412
01:27:32.119 --> 01:27:37.680
Yeah. Especially was a lot of fun.

1413
01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:45.000
Happy birthday to Carlos What Coming are Cuban actors who

1414
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:50.600
play Retella in DAS nine's Thursday's an episode Improbable Cause

1415
01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:57.039
and last on my list but definitely not final. Happy

1416
01:27:57.119 --> 01:28:01.760
birthday to Robert Robbie Duncan McNeil, best known for prying

1417
01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:06.840
Tom Paris in every episode of Voyager. He had previous

1418
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:11.439
appeared as Nicholas Lecarno in Das Nine's fifties an episode

1419
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.840
First Duty, and later two episodes of Lower Decks fort

1420
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:21.039
season episodes. He's also direct episode of Voyager Enterprise and

1421
01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.359
got quite a few other uh directing credits.

1422
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:28.840
Also known for his popularism.

1423
01:28:29.479 --> 01:28:35.600
He was in Masters of the Universe classic Alasome movie.

1424
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.199
But it's up there, I recommend you check it out.

1425
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:50.319
So, but can he let me take this flaming I.

1426
01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:52.680
Was gonna say, can he wield a bat left? That's

1427
01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:53.239
the question.

1428
01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:57.800
I don't think that he can, at least not not

1429
01:28:58.079 --> 01:29:01.079
not as well as as I wheeled. Mind, that's a

1430
01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:04.359
story for different. We could be a whole podcast on

1431
01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:04.880
my bank.

1432
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:19.520
Wow, I'm practically speechless, and seldom happens. First of all,

1433
01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:26.000
let's say a phenomenal happy birthday to the absolutely delightful

1434
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:31.239
and luminous Alfred Woodard, who of course played Lily Sloane

1435
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:36.039
in Star Trek First Contact, pretty much nearly universally considered

1436
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:39.199
to be like the greatest Star Trek movie ever. She

1437
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:43.039
was actually nominated by the NAACP for an Image Award

1438
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:46.520
for her role in that film. Also voiced Lily Sloan

1439
01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:52.359
in Lower Deck's fifth season episode Fisher Request. So definitely

1440
01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:57.239
a phenomenal, phenomenal performer, but just check her out. She's

1441
01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:57.640
done so.

1442
01:29:57.680 --> 01:29:59.319
Many great things over the years.

1443
01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:04.920
Just one of the most reliable journeyman performers there are

1444
01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:08.279
and brings a lot of power and emotion to her work.

1445
01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:12.720
So Alfred Woodard, we salute you. Absolutely amazing. I don't

1446
01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:17.760
know what that was, but it was unexpected. Also, happy

1447
01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:23.359
birthday to the out of control Parker Posey. We've done

1448
01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:27.159
a lot of interesting things in her career. Of course,

1449
01:30:27.239 --> 01:30:32.640
she played in Superman Returns, the Brandon Ruth thing. She

1450
01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:37.439
played Kitty Kowalski in that, she was in a Blade

1451
01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:41.960
Trinity that one of the Blade sequels there as Dan

1452
01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:46.079
at Tolozen, And on that reboot that Netflix did for

1453
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:48.720
Lost in Space, they kind of did a little gender

1454
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:53.960
slap and she played doctor Smith on that show. But

1455
01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:59.239
I think that she will probably be forever remembered for

1456
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:04.920
her fun, phenomenal work in pictures like Waiting for Guffman

1457
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:11.239
and a particularly great job in Christopher Guest's Best in Shadow,

1458
01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:16.319
where she plays a completely unhinged character. I mean, she's

1459
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:20.159
she's willing to walk right off the cliff to show

1460
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:23.680
somebody who's out of control. Best news show though. She

1461
01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:26.600
was just remarkable. And then a lot of people just

1462
01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:29.319
have seen her in things but didn't really know her,

1463
01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:31.760
got really familiar with her because she had a huge

1464
01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:35.760
part in this last season of White Lotus on HBO,

1465
01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:38.319
really a big part in that. So a lot of

1466
01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:42.319
people are rediscovering just how talented Parker Posey is. So

1467
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:43.920
I think you'd be seeing in her a lot more

1468
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:48.880
work after that exposure, because people will suddenly remind her

1469
01:31:48.920 --> 01:31:51.279
of thoh yeah, Parker Posy, She's she's got it and

1470
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:53.760
she can really deliver. I mean, she's out of control,

1471
01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:55.880
so in a good way.

1472
01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:57.680
Paul, I want to I want to put in my

1473
01:31:57.880 --> 01:32:00.720
own plug for like, the first movie that I ever

1474
01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:03.760
saw her in I still remember to this day because

1475
01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:05.840
not only was it a great movie, but it was

1476
01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:09.439
a great introduction to her character. It was nineteen ninety

1477
01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:12.960
seven's House of Yes, and I don't remember or I

1478
01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:14.800
don't know if you've seen that movie or not, But

1479
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:16.239
I don't know if.

1480
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:18.279
I have seen that movie, dude, yeah, I don't know

1481
01:32:18.319 --> 01:32:18.960
if it.

1482
01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:21.399
Would have been one of those art house flicks, you know,

1483
01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:24.640
back in the late nineties and She just plays this

1484
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:27.960
fantastic character in a When you look at the movie poster,

1485
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:32.319
you'll think, oh, Jackie O. You know, and there are

1486
01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:35.079
a lot of connections to the whole Kennedy situation. Anyway,

1487
01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:38.039
great movie, go check it out. I love Parker Proce

1488
01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:40.920
so much. If we get her on the podcast, I

1489
01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:42.439
would probably lose my shit.

1490
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:49.760
Yeah, she's a live while Yeah, I would for all

1491
01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:52.720
the roles that I've seen here in the you know,

1492
01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:56.039
the whole Christopher guest movies, because she just was.

1493
01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:00.479
I to this day, I can't see Parker Posey and

1494
01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:04.479
not think of the words busy bee and you don't.

1495
01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:05.359
Know what I'm talking about.

1496
01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:08.119
Yes, if you don't know what I'm talking about, it,

1497
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:11.600
oh my God Jesus amazing. So we have more birthdays though,

1498
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:14.840
so I must press on Happy birthday to Tarrell Rothery,

1499
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:17.880
Canadian actress best known for playing doctor Janet Fraser on

1500
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:23.000
Stargate as g One. In the television series Supernatural, she

1501
01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:26.359
also played the medical examiner in the episode Heart and

1502
01:33:26.680 --> 01:33:29.039
all of That in the episode Paint It Black And

1503
01:33:29.159 --> 01:33:31.720
you know what, Supernatural is a series I have never seen.

1504
01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:34.640
At some point, that's a deficit in my TV viewing.

1505
01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:37.840
It just aired when I was incredibly busy and just

1506
01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:39.800
did not have time for television, so I've never had

1507
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:42.279
a chance to see it. But I know Supernatural and

1508
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:46.319
Stargate SG one have like battalions of fans. Those are

1509
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:50.920
both very very popular shows that have huge followings. So

1510
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:55.239
so that's very cool. So Teryl rothree, Happy birthday to you,

1511
01:33:56.520 --> 01:34:00.800
big fan of this next individual, the Mighty Wallace Sean Okay,

1512
01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:05.199
who we acknowledge for being playing a Grand Negas Zech

1513
01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:08.479
on Deep Space nine, But Wala Shawn is an accomplished

1514
01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:12.039
American actor and also playwright. Right, A lot of people

1515
01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:17.039
know him for his inconceivable role as Vizzini in The

1516
01:34:17.119 --> 01:34:19.760
Princess Bride, But this is a guy who's done a

1517
01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:23.039
ton of things. I mean, he's like the consummate New

1518
01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:27.319
York personality. Check him out in Hannah and her Sisters

1519
01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:32.600
and the Great My Dinner with Andre, which I think

1520
01:34:32.720 --> 01:34:35.399
is the movie that a lot of people first discovered.

1521
01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:39.720
Wala Seawan a remarkable performer, does a ton of work

1522
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:45.119
and can just be so hilarious. So just so hilarious. Yes,

1523
01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:48.239
I do have a Grand Negas Zech action figure in

1524
01:34:48.399 --> 01:34:51.079
my Deep Space nine collection. Thank you, and I'm proud

1525
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:55.279
own it. So there we are, Happy Birthday. Also switching

1526
01:34:55.319 --> 01:34:57.960
gears a little bit here to the lovely and talented

1527
01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:03.119
and Hathaway, American actress and singer from Let's Hear at Brooklyn,

1528
01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:07.520
New York, Okay, who does so many great things.

1529
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:08.560
It's done so much.

1530
01:35:08.439 --> 01:35:13.239
Great work, but really really rang people's bells in the

1531
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:16.840
dark Knight Rises for Christopher Nolan, where she played Catwoman

1532
01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:20.239
and really really got a lot of attention for that.

1533
01:35:21.479 --> 01:35:23.760
She is going to be showing up again in a

1534
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:28.239
Devilwar's Prada sequel that's getting lensed right now, so you'll

1535
01:35:28.279 --> 01:35:30.680
be seeing a lot more of Anne Hathaway in the future.

1536
01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:33.800
And of course got to mention her work again. She's

1537
01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:38.319
basically really done some great stuff with Christopher Nolan. I'm

1538
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:43.079
guessing everybody here seeing Interstellar at this point, but if not,

1539
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:44.920
you should really check it out. She does really good

1540
01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:46.920
work in the picture as well. That's a great science fiction.

1541
01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:50.359
So I mean anything that science fiction from Christopher Nolan

1542
01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:52.880
we should all be watching would be my take.

1543
01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:53.640
So there you go.

1544
01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:58.039
But Anne Hathaway class act all the way, really talented

1545
01:35:58.199 --> 01:36:02.800
and a strike individual, So there we go moving on.

1546
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:04.920
We must move on and.

1547
01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:09.159
Say happy birthday to Callista Flockhart, American actress who played

1548
01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:12.119
a Cat Grant in Supergirl, but has also done a

1549
01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:14.720
ton of other work and is also married to another

1550
01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:18.720
science fiction legend, Harrison Ford. Those guys have been rocking

1551
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:20.640
it for a long time there, which is very cool.

1552
01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:24.079
And I'm delighted to close out by wishing a very

1553
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:29.600
very happy birthday too, Frankly, the legendary Whoopy Goldberg. Whoopy

1554
01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:36.039
Goldberg is phenomenal American actor and comedian who portrayed Guynan

1555
01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:43.319
from second through sixth season on Next Gen and then

1556
01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:47.439
reprise the role in Generations and a Nemesis and a

1557
01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:51.439
couple of episodes of Picard as well. She's earned a

1558
01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:55.439
Saturn Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor Go to her house,

1559
01:36:55.479 --> 01:36:58.079
Guess what She's got an Oscar friends as well for

1560
01:36:58.199 --> 01:37:03.439
her supporting actor work in Ghosts. You're in Trouble girl,

1561
01:37:04.399 --> 01:37:08.079
just you know the line that launched a thousand memes,

1562
01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:11.880
right and still going with that and h and let's

1563
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:14.479
not forget her work for Steven Spielberg and the Color

1564
01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:18.920
Purple as well. I just think she and I mean

1565
01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:23.079
and it's just I don't know something about Guynan. I

1566
01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:24.680
think a lot of people at first were like, well,

1567
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:26.840
pe Goldberg on Star Trek what And I remember with

1568
01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:31.000
the initial reaction to that casting was just people were

1569
01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:33.479
People can be jerks, and they can have a lot

1570
01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:36.960
of preconceptions about what is going to happen when you

1571
01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:39.720
hear about casting news, especially if you're somebody who's already

1572
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:42.920
known and then you inhabit a role, right. But I

1573
01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:48.640
think she really made unique apart from her own, you know,

1574
01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:52.800
established personality, which is no mean feat to do. And

1575
01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:55.720
I think that when you go back and you look

1576
01:37:55.760 --> 01:38:02.159
at the very first appearance of the Borg in season

1577
01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:06.199
two and q Q who that episode, what really sells

1578
01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:10.159
the menace of them and the terror of what they're

1579
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:13.640
capable of, I think is Whoopy Goldberg's description of them

1580
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.359
as guy. And I think she just did an exemplary

1581
01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:18.880
job in that role, and she brought gravitas to it

1582
01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:20.800
and made it feel like, you know, this is something

1583
01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:23.600
you should really be terrified of, and that is not

1584
01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:26.600
like anything else you've seen before. And just her relationship

1585
01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:30.000
with Q in that episode, she's just dynamite. I think

1586
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:33.079
she takes a lot of crap, right, because she's a

1587
01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:37.159
real strong individual, strong personality, but a big fan, and

1588
01:38:37.239 --> 01:38:41.239
I think the is making a legendary career for herself.

1589
01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.680
It's not easy when you're like when you're a big personality, right,

1590
01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:48.079
But I think Whoopi Goldberg is one of the greats.

1591
01:38:48.199 --> 01:38:51.199
So I'm delighted to be a fan of hers. That's

1592
01:38:51.279 --> 01:38:54.239
what I got on my list of birthday illuminaries.

1593
01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:54.359
Here.

1594
01:38:54.439 --> 01:38:56.000
Let's see if Uncle Jim's got a few.

1595
01:38:56.079 --> 01:38:57.239
I think he probably does.

1596
01:38:57.359 --> 01:38:57.840
Uncle Jim.

1597
01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:01.960
Yeah, I got to say. My wife and I had

1598
01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:06.319
the opportunity, the pleasure to see Whoopy Goldberg's stand up

1599
01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:10.119
comedy right after she landed the part on Star Trek,

1600
01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:13.920
and I went in my Star Trek uniform with my

1601
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:17.399
guiding picture, hoping that I could get her to sign it.

1602
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:20.880
Didn't get close enough. Security wished me away as a weird.

1603
01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:26.359
Imagine that, you know, some dude in a Skyshik uniform waving.

1604
01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:34.159
I will say one thing, she was runchy, as she

1605
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:36.880
definitely wasn't guyn on us when she was up there

1606
01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:40.000
on stage doing her comedy. What I remember most about

1607
01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:43.640
it is she bought the local newspaper and all of

1608
01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:46.760
the jokes, all the political jokes that she told. She

1609
01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:50.079
took them right out of our local paper, which was

1610
01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:53.039
impressive because how many cities did she go to, how

1611
01:39:53.119 --> 01:39:56.479
many tours did she do? And she personalized each and

1612
01:39:56.600 --> 01:40:00.399
every show for that particular city, which really pressed me.

1613
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:04.159
And she was awesome, awesome, awesome love Whoopy Goldberg. So

1614
01:40:04.319 --> 01:40:08.039
happy birthday, Whoopi Goldberg. All right, guys, I usually do

1615
01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:12.560
the Klingons. This my first birthday. My god, he could

1616
01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:14.680
be a klingon because he could rip you limb from

1617
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:19.279
limb and you wouldn't even know if you'd be ripped

1618
01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:21.680
apart before you had a chance to even say anything.

1619
01:40:22.159 --> 01:40:24.720
So I want to say happy. Anyone that grew up

1620
01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:27.880
in the seventies knows this guy. I want to say

1621
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:32.119
happy birthday to the awesome Lou Farigno. And there he is,

1622
01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:34.439
right there on the screen and all of his greenness.

1623
01:40:34.920 --> 01:40:40.560
American actner, fitness trainer, consultant, and retired professional bodybuilder. He's

1624
01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:43.600
best known for portraying the title role in the television

1625
01:40:43.680 --> 01:40:44.880
series The Incredible.

1626
01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:48.359
Just don't make him angry because you wouldn't like him.

1627
01:40:48.359 --> 01:40:50.560
When you wouldn't like him.

1628
01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:54.560
When I got to tell you, guys, I met him

1629
01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:58.439
at a convention and he is big. He is a

1630
01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:01.640
big dude. When he shook my hand and I'm looking up,

1631
01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:07.399
Oh my god, he he is huge. Yeah, and he's

1632
01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:10.319
the friendliest, nicest guy you would ever want to meet,

1633
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:15.239
lou Ferrigno. So happy birthday to the incredible Hulk him self,

1634
01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:19.199
Loue or Rigma. Next time, my list, we all got

1635
01:41:19.239 --> 01:41:22.439
to move into Clingon territory. Jey. I don't like to

1636
01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:25.960
do Klingons that don't have a name, but this particular

1637
01:41:26.079 --> 01:41:29.520
character was so awesome in this incredible episode that I

1638
01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:32.239
had to make an exception to my own rule. So

1639
01:41:32.359 --> 01:41:36.039
we want to say cuplat to Peter Perros, who appeared

1640
01:41:36.079 --> 01:41:39.239
as the Klingon tactical officer in the TNG second season

1641
01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:43.279
episode A Matter of Honor. This is the character, if

1642
01:41:43.279 --> 01:41:46.000
you guys remember in the episode, this is the guy

1643
01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:50.880
that kind of takes Riker under his wing and teaches

1644
01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:54.439
him the ways of the Klingon. And you know when

1645
01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:58.520
the captain snacks him in the face and tells him

1646
01:41:58.520 --> 01:42:01.920
about the Klingon love making, rich jewels and stuff, how

1647
01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:06.279
to eat goc. I mean, this Klingon was awesome. They

1648
01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:08.880
should have given him a name, but they didn't. If

1649
01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:11.479
you have not watched a matter of go and check

1650
01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:13.680
it out and check out Peter Perils because his role

1651
01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:17.560
is phenomenal in this episode. So happy birthday and kapla

1652
01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:24.039
to Peter Perils. I saved the best or last. I

1653
01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:28.560
want to send out a huge coupla and happy birthday

1654
01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:32.319
to the incredible, the awesome Mary Chief. Oh and there

1655
01:42:32.399 --> 01:42:36.039
she is on our screen. She played Lourel in the

1656
01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:39.199
first and second season of Star Trek Discovery and voice

1657
01:42:39.279 --> 01:42:43.159
Kolara in the Lower Decks fifth season episode of Farewell

1658
01:42:43.479 --> 01:42:48.279
to Farms, and I was hoping that we would see

1659
01:42:48.319 --> 01:42:51.079
her on section thirty one. That was the plan, but

1660
01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:53.199
they went in a different direction and we never got

1661
01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:57.800
to see her. I think she played an incredible, incredible

1662
01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:01.000
Klingon on Star Trek Discovery, and I really wish we

1663
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:04.520
had more time to explore her and what she did

1664
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:08.279
with the Klingons when she became the Emperor Empress. I

1665
01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:11.920
guess it would be you can call me mother, is

1666
01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:14.439
what she said. And when she sews up in such

1667
01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:18.159
sweet sorrow with her fleet of Klingon D seven's and

1668
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:22.880
starts annihilating the AI and her ship gets shot and

1669
01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:25.039
she gets blown off the bridge and she's bleeding all

1670
01:43:25.119 --> 01:43:27.880
over the place, and she says, today is a good data.

1671
01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:34.039
I loved her character, absolutely loved her. So happy birthday

1672
01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:39.079
to marry Chiefo. And that wraps up our birthdays for

1673
01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:42.239
the night. Guys. We'll have more next week, don't you worry.

1674
01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:46.960
But now it's time for our star Trek news.

1675
01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:52.399
If I already one message from Starfleet coming in on secure.

1676
01:43:52.119 --> 01:44:00.399
Channel, incoming transmission enter authorization code, command codes verified, fine

1677
01:44:00.479 --> 01:44:06.119
parameters of program level nine, authorization required, specifying parameters.

1678
01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:09.199
Transfer updata is complete.

1679
01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:12.680
A blank alert, A blank alert.

1680
01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:17.319
All right, We unfortunately don't have a Shatner say, is

1681
01:44:17.520 --> 01:44:20.680
what story this week? I scoured the internet trying to

1682
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:27.600
find Shatner saying something Shatners, but I couldn't find anything

1683
01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:30.800
this week. So, you know, Eric just has a regular, old,

1684
01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:32.960
boring news story that doesn't.

1685
01:44:32.680 --> 01:44:37.279
Involve uh, you know, it doesn't involve Shantner, but it's

1686
01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:40.600
an important story. And I think that we have kind

1687
01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:43.159
of all been waiting for the moment when this horse

1688
01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:45.199
that we all knew was dead would stop being beaten.

1689
01:44:45.319 --> 01:44:50.159
But Paramount reportedly finally wants a fresh take for Star Trek,

1690
01:44:50.279 --> 01:44:54.560
moving on from another Calvin movie. It's been over nine

1691
01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:57.920
years since Star Trek Beyond exited theaters with underwhelming box

1692
01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:03.359
office performance, leading to several regimes at Paramount Pictures. Struggling

1693
01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:05.800
to find a way to make a fourteenth big screen

1694
01:45:05.960 --> 01:45:11.399
track work, Paramount Pictures is deprioritizing some projects while bringing

1695
01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:14.479
new focus to others as the studio looks up to

1696
01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:18.439
its overall pace. Looks to up its overall pace of releases,

1697
01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:21.640
which includes an update for Trek on the big screen.

1698
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:27.159
CEO David Ellison said there has also been a focus

1699
01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:29.880
on reinvigorating certain franchises. The hope is to have a

1700
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:33.279
fresh Star Trek movie, though the studio has moved on

1701
01:45:33.479 --> 01:45:36.640
from the idea of bringing back Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto

1702
01:45:36.720 --> 01:45:39.920
and the rest of the ensemble from the JJ Abrams reboot.

1703
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:43.840
In the last nine years, several Star Trek film projects

1704
01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:47.960
have been announced, attached to a variety of writers and directors.

1705
01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:50.560
At least two serious attempts to move forward on a

1706
01:45:50.600 --> 01:45:53.880
fourth movie with the Calvin Universe crew got close to

1707
01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:57.840
pre production before everyone got let go and the process

1708
01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:01.800
was started again. There's no more detail about Star Trek

1709
01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:04.039
or any mention of the status of the Star Trek

1710
01:46:04.239 --> 01:46:09.880
origin film under director Toby Haynes before the sky Dance takeover.

1711
01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:12.960
That film was scheduled to come out before another attempt

1712
01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:15.680
at a Star Trek four with the Kelvin crew, and

1713
01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:17.920
the film was even announced as part of the twenty

1714
01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:21.760
twenty six release slate. However, without any serious movement on

1715
01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:24.399
the project, it's clear there will not be a Star

1716
01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:29.439
Trek movie released in the franchise's sixtieth anniversary year. That

1717
01:46:29.720 --> 01:46:34.359
is a tragedy. Reference Putting a final Kelvin movie into production,

1718
01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:37.359
if the financials and schedules could be worked out, could

1719
01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:39.319
be seen as a safe move just to re engage

1720
01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:42.039
audiences with franchise, but it comes with several risks and

1721
01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:45.560
isn't really a long term solutionist, especially with the directive

1722
01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:49.239
to get the TV and film sides working together. So

1723
01:46:50.079 --> 01:46:51.840
it looks like the wait for the next Star Trek

1724
01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:56.560
movie will continue, making the gap between releases spanning over

1725
01:46:57.399 --> 01:47:02.800
a decade. But as James T. Kirk once said, young minds,

1726
01:47:03.199 --> 01:47:09.439
fresh ideas be tolerant, So you know, it's we've talked

1727
01:47:09.479 --> 01:47:11.560
a little bit about these movies too bad they didn't

1728
01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:13.399
strike while the iron was hot. But yeah, it's been

1729
01:47:13.439 --> 01:47:16.479
way too long for another Kelvin movie. So I kind

1730
01:47:16.520 --> 01:47:18.920
of like that they've kind of formally now said that, okay,

1731
01:47:19.279 --> 01:47:24.000
we're moving on. But movie wise, it's kind of interesting,

1732
01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:27.000
right because Star Trek movies have a different flavor from

1733
01:47:27.079 --> 01:47:31.439
Star Trek television. And I don't even know, do you

1734
01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:35.000
guys have had any ideas what type of movie you

1735
01:47:35.079 --> 01:47:37.399
would like to see in the Star Trek world, Like

1736
01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:42.239
what era, what topic, what good bad guy? I mean,

1737
01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:44.880
it feels like our television is almost like movies these days.

1738
01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:46.880
So is a movie even relevant?

1739
01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:50.840
I don't know. Well for me, for me personally, I

1740
01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:53.760
would love to see what happened with Sieban and then

1741
01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:57.800
the Planet of a Galactic piece, you know what happened there,

1742
01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:00.840
and then I'll go back and revisit because that really

1743
01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:03.680
is one of the best startric movies. So and they did,

1744
01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:08.039
they did bring into strange new worlds, so you know,

1745
01:48:08.359 --> 01:48:09.000
let's bring it on.

1746
01:48:09.399 --> 01:48:16.479
Give me some sure, sure, sure, yeah mhm. I mean

1747
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:18.479
not to like talk this one to death, but just

1748
01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:26.039
like Star Trek movie wise, any interest ideas, era things,

1749
01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:26.560
you'd love to.

1750
01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:30.439
See a lot of people wanted they wanted a lower

1751
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:35.159
decks movie, so that would be fun.

1752
01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:42.520
Yeah, well, what what's currently active? I wonder if maybe

1753
01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:47.920
something with Strange New World or maybe that's a launchpad

1754
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:50.239
for their legend.

1755
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:51.640
Mm hmm.

1756
01:48:53.000 --> 01:49:01.039
With that start, everybody you want to extend the next generation.

1757
01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:04.079
Maybe that may be a direction for next generation to

1758
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:04.960
one last movie.

1759
01:49:06.359 --> 01:49:11.399
Yes, I do think if they're going to do a movie, though,

1760
01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:15.680
I think what made the Star Trek movie so successful

1761
01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:18.960
at first is the TNG and the Classic Trek movies

1762
01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:21.560
had a long gas separating them, so they were able

1763
01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:25.000
to do things in the movies that didn't necessarily have

1764
01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:28.800
any impact on the TV show. So if they're going

1765
01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:31.840
to do another movie now that Star Trek is moving,

1766
01:49:32.279 --> 01:49:34.600
what they're in the thirty second century now, they're like

1767
01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:36.840
way in the future. If they were going to do

1768
01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:40.560
a Star Trek movie, it would have to be you know,

1769
01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:44.119
Strange New World's time or TS or TNG time, so

1770
01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:47.439
that it wouldn't have any impact and the writers would

1771
01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:50.359
be free to write what they wanted without having about

1772
01:49:50.359 --> 01:49:52.840
what's going on in the TV show like they did,

1773
01:49:53.039 --> 01:49:59.119
you know back in the eighties. And GOOSDNG in my opinion, yeah,

1774
01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:03.399
it doesn't mean ship, but that's what I'll tell them.

1775
01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:07.000
I kind of agree with Eric Dad that it seems

1776
01:50:07.039 --> 01:50:09.560
like a lot of the TV shows nowadays are somewhat

1777
01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:13.000
kind of close to just like many movies in a way.

1778
01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:17.640
So I don't know if movies are relevant now anymore.

1779
01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:21.600
I mean, to be honest, just the idea that movies

1780
01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:27.479
in general just kind of like just yeah, just I

1781
01:50:27.520 --> 01:50:29.560
don't know. It seemed to me like the many TV

1782
01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:33.399
shows like ten episode long or whatever, it seems like

1783
01:50:33.439 --> 01:50:34.279
a movie in itself.

1784
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:39.680
So well, Strange New Things is going to be in

1785
01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:41.880
the theater, right, Paul, did you say that in the

1786
01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:47.600
last podcast Range New Things? Didn't you say that Strange

1787
01:50:47.640 --> 01:50:48.000
New Things?

1788
01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:48.800
Strange?

1789
01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:53.039
What a strange? You mean stranger?

1790
01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:58.760
You mean stranger? Okay, in the movie theater.

1791
01:50:59.319 --> 01:51:02.520
Yeah, that's it. That's a done thing. Yeah, it's going

1792
01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:05.319
to be the last finale episodes, like the ones that

1793
01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:07.720
are going to debut, like I think it's Christmas if

1794
01:51:07.720 --> 01:51:09.800
I'm not mistaken, those last two they're going to release

1795
01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:11.920
some theatrically to try to get some stuff on there.

1796
01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:15.960
But just to piggyback on this, briefly, you cannot keep

1797
01:51:16.079 --> 01:51:19.840
doing this. You cannot keep doing this with this ridiculous

1798
01:51:20.319 --> 01:51:24.520
recycling of stuff. Right, you cannot make another next gen movie.

1799
01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:28.239
I mean, everybody is too old, right, It's just ridiculous.

1800
01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:30.199
They're never going to come up with a thing better

1801
01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:32.000
than the last season of Book card they came up

1802
01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:33.720
with is a way to say goodbye to those guys,

1803
01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:37.520
that is done. I think you know, the one thing

1804
01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:39.399
I've heard that makes even a lick of sense is

1805
01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:41.880
what Charles said, right, is maybe you know, as a

1806
01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:45.600
way of like springboarding off of momentum that could be

1807
01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:52.000
built when Stranger Worlds finally wraps up its last season.

1808
01:51:52.159 --> 01:51:54.640
Is yeah, okay, people, if you end it right, people

1809
01:51:54.680 --> 01:51:58.479
would have enough affection for those characters that they would

1810
01:51:58.520 --> 01:52:02.960
go see a Stranger movie. But people don't really want

1811
01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:04.439
to do that. They don't really want to see it.

1812
01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:08.439
I couldn't disagree with David Moore. The whole idea that

1813
01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:11.840
movies aren't relevant anymore is just poppy cock. Right, It's

1814
01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:13.920
just ridiculous. It's just but you've got to give somebody

1815
01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:17.199
something different that they can't get on TV. Right, You

1816
01:52:17.279 --> 01:52:19.399
can't give them the same thing, right, You give them

1817
01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:22.039
something new, right, And I think what you're probably going

1818
01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:24.239
to see happening is they're going to go mind. You've

1819
01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:28.399
got more creative freedom between the time period of like

1820
01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:31.880
Enterprise and the original series, right, there's a lot of

1821
01:52:31.960 --> 01:52:34.159
room that you can grow there and you're not confined

1822
01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:37.159
as much by cannon and you can certainly not keep

1823
01:52:37.279 --> 01:52:40.239
recasting everybody. They're going to do one more trip to

1824
01:52:40.319 --> 01:52:42.319
the Well. And they're already doing that now, a strange

1825
01:52:42.359 --> 01:52:45.960
new world where they're recasting the original series cast. And

1826
01:52:46.079 --> 01:52:47.680
if they do it well, I think people will buy it.

1827
01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:49.159
And you can do a few years and that is

1828
01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:53.079
an ongoing, you know, early days original series with a

1829
01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:54.079
well cast group.

1830
01:52:54.680 --> 01:52:55.279
But that's it.

1831
01:52:55.640 --> 01:52:59.399
And I don't think you can recast existing characters and

1832
01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:02.720
get away with than anymore. In terms of a motion

1833
01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:05.039
picture franchise. You gotta go out there and give something

1834
01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:07.319
new to people that they haven't seen and go into

1835
01:53:07.359 --> 01:53:08.920
some dark corners we haven't seen before.

1836
01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:10.720
So yeah, that's my take on it.

1837
01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:13.760
So think long and hard. I mean, I don't really don't.

1838
01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:16.399
I've got very little faith in the brain trust a.

1839
01:53:16.399 --> 01:53:22.560
Paramount these days, all right, So av you got our

1840
01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:23.720
next story? Yeah, Dark.

1841
01:53:24.920 --> 01:53:28.880
Yeah. I have been a huge fan of Stephen Colbert

1842
01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:35.960
and yeah his show. You've seen the stories which I

1843
01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:41.640
won't even get into because I'm just yeah anyway, But

1844
01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:45.520
he's gonna He's going to survive and thrive despite his

1845
01:53:45.680 --> 01:53:49.920
show coming to an end. But he has revealed that

1846
01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:55.520
he has a Star Trek Starfleet Academy role, and although

1847
01:53:55.720 --> 01:53:57.960
his late night show will come to an end in May,

1848
01:53:58.159 --> 01:54:02.119
he revealed that she's gotten jump on his next gig.

1849
01:54:02.399 --> 01:54:07.880
He's voicing a role in Star Trek Starfleet Academy. Folks,

1850
01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:10.680
I'm sorry I couldn't be with you in person today,

1851
01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:14.760
but I'm a perfectionist and I just didn't have enough

1852
01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:20.760
bunting for my Mugatu Mugato cosplay. However, nothing could stop

1853
01:54:20.840 --> 01:54:24.760
me from sharing this exciting news. I'm honored to announce

1854
01:54:24.840 --> 01:54:28.640
that my beautiful voice will be joining Star Trek Starfleet

1855
01:54:28.680 --> 01:54:33.800
Academy as the digital Dean of Students. I'm thrilled to

1856
01:54:33.920 --> 01:54:37.239
join this universe that I've loved for so long, and

1857
01:54:37.560 --> 01:54:41.720
unlike my on camera cast mates, I'm thrilled to join

1858
01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:45.159
it without having to spend four hours in hair and

1859
01:54:45.319 --> 01:54:49.880
makeup every day. I'll see you when Starfleet Academy premieres.

1860
01:54:50.600 --> 01:54:54.479
Until then, live long and do your thing.

1861
01:54:59.199 --> 01:55:02.039
There I haven't, So we're going to have a new

1862
01:55:02.439 --> 01:55:05.199
Dina students And this story I had to throw in

1863
01:55:05.279 --> 01:55:07.680
there for Paul. I'm always looking for something, and I

1864
01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:10.760
think he's going to tickle Paul's fancy. I saw this

1865
01:55:10.960 --> 01:55:12.840
one and I immediately thought.

1866
01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:17.199
Of Paul, Thank you sir. All right, it's quick. So

1867
01:55:17.640 --> 01:55:19.920
we were just talking a little bit earlier about Star

1868
01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:21.880
Trek First Contact and if you're a big fan of

1869
01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:24.640
that show or that movie rather, one of the cool

1870
01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:28.239
things about that was the spacesuits that they had on there.

1871
01:55:28.359 --> 01:55:30.640
And we had folks from EXO six on the show

1872
01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:33.760
at one point a few years ago. And XO six

1873
01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:36.720
does these great twelve inch scale figures, right, and they

1874
01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:39.920
got a bunch coming out, and XO six is finally teased.

1875
01:55:40.079 --> 01:55:44.640
It's very very intricate Star Trek First Contact EVA suit

1876
01:55:44.920 --> 01:55:49.399
with wharf whoa up for pre order, and this baby

1877
01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:52.840
is complete with built in electronic lighting elements. Because that

1878
01:55:52.920 --> 01:55:54.479
was one of the cool things, right There were lights

1879
01:55:54.520 --> 01:55:57.279
inside the helmet that you could see lit up that

1880
01:55:57.399 --> 01:56:00.399
would you help the actors face show up it more.

1881
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:03.479
This is going to be something that is help you

1882
01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:06.880
recreate you know, warfs, zero gravity spacewalk.

1883
01:56:11.159 --> 01:56:13.359
Uh ah, here.

1884
01:56:15.359 --> 01:56:19.680
There is am I right by my back. Q two

1885
01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:24.800
twenty twenty six. This special edition of Commander Warf from

1886
01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:28.159
Star Trek First Contact will have a removable helmet, lighting

1887
01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:33.159
elements in the suit, phaser rifle, cling on weapon, and

1888
01:56:33.239 --> 01:56:36.000
a detached borg arm to wrap around his life.

1889
01:56:36.119 --> 01:56:38.399
How do you like them? That's my favorite part?

1890
01:56:40.079 --> 01:56:42.760
Yeah, yeah, check that out.

1891
01:56:42.840 --> 01:56:47.039
That's pretty cool, right, nice paperweight so again, thirteen inches

1892
01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:50.840
of six twelve inch scale wharf there for you, available

1893
01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:54.239
for pre order right now now if you missed the

1894
01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:57.039
pre order window on XO six's site. I don't know

1895
01:56:57.079 --> 01:57:00.319
if they're how rigid they are with their pre orders,

1896
01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:02.720
but I will let you know. If you pop over

1897
01:57:02.880 --> 01:57:06.520
to a Big Bad Toy store, they always have pre

1898
01:57:06.680 --> 01:57:10.159
orders up for all of EXO six's stuff, and you

1899
01:57:10.279 --> 01:57:12.199
can go ahead and put down a deposit for a

1900
01:57:12.279 --> 01:57:15.119
pre order of this figure right now. It's still up

1901
01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:18.680
and still up live for pre order on Big Bad

1902
01:57:18.720 --> 01:57:20.760
Toy Store where you can get a lot of good

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01:57:20.800 --> 01:57:24.199
stuff and that is but if you go in there,

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01:57:24.359 --> 01:57:27.079
be warned they've got all of their Star Trek twelve

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01:57:27.119 --> 01:57:30.640
inch stuff on display. I mean there are dozens of

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01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:34.039
them that you can get, Lieutenant Valeris. You can get

1907
01:57:34.199 --> 01:57:36.840
Christine Chappell from Strange New Worlds. I mean, you can

1908
01:57:36.960 --> 01:57:39.720
just go on and on and on. So if you're

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01:57:39.720 --> 01:57:43.920
a twelve inch collector, you know, caveat endor because you

1910
01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:48.239
could be broke quickly. And thus end of my toy

1911
01:57:48.319 --> 01:57:49.000
story for now.

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The only thing that would make it, yeah, the only

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01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:54.399
thing that would make it perfect if you press a

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button and he says, assimilate this.

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They use that in all the trailers back and then

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01:58:05.960 --> 01:58:08.600
as I recall, so it was pretty pretty great. So yeah,

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it was good, good times, good times, very crowd pleasing movie.

1918
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And again, you know, and I try to pick stories

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that I think my co host will you know, enjoy,

1920
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And this next one I picked for Charles and I

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hope it's a good one.

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Oh definitely, Jim. I think you heard us, You heard us,

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David and Night chit Chat. In the last week, Lego

1924
01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:35.119
and the veils the new three thousand, six hundred piece

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01:58:35.239 --> 01:58:39.319
Star Trek, the Next Generation Enterprise d Brick Set plus

1926
01:58:39.439 --> 01:58:45.119
Limn Edition, shut Up Pod Gift Set, Lego Groups and

1927
01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:50.640
partner with Paramount Products and Experiences unveils a highly anticipated

1928
01:58:50.760 --> 01:58:56.439
Lego Iconic Star trek Uss Enterprise NCC seventeen oh one D.

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01:58:57.439 --> 01:59:00.840
This intritegate model invites Star Trek and Lego fans to

1930
01:59:00.920 --> 01:59:05.079
embark on a galactic voyage of creativity building its detailed

1931
01:59:05.119 --> 01:59:10.479
replica of Starfleet's legendary flagship. Modeled from three thy six

1932
01:59:10.560 --> 01:59:15.279
hundred pieces, the Lego Iconic Star trek Uss Enterprise is

1933
01:59:15.359 --> 01:59:19.199
allowed builders to craft the detailed replica of the iconic starship,

1934
01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:24.479
complete with detachable command saucer, secondary hull, and warping cells

1935
01:59:24.640 --> 01:59:29.479
with distinctive red and blue detailing. The model also features

1936
01:59:29.520 --> 01:59:33.760
an open opening shuttle bay with too many shuttle pods

1937
01:59:34.239 --> 01:59:39.119
perfect recreating the classic scenes design is a captive sci

1938
01:59:39.279 --> 01:59:42.840
Fi to core piece. This set comes with an angle

1939
01:59:42.960 --> 01:59:48.640
display stand featuring an information plaque for the US's Enterprise model,

1940
01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:53.439
plus a minifig display tile with Star Trek Next Generation branding.

1941
01:59:55.000 --> 01:59:57.439
The ship also comes with a minifigure of the Next

1942
01:59:57.439 --> 02:00:02.119
Generation crew complete with character pro pret accessories captained Bricard

1943
02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:06.720
with his teacup, William Riker with his trombone, data with

1944
02:00:06.960 --> 02:00:11.760
cat spot Jeordia Laford with the engineering case war for

1945
02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:16.520
the Phaser, Beverly Crusher with a tricorder, Restley Crusher with

1946
02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:21.000
his portable tractor beam, Deanna Troy with a pod and

1947
02:00:21.199 --> 02:00:24.600
guiding them with a bottle. In addition, for a fan

1948
02:00:24.720 --> 02:00:27.279
who purchased the Enterprise d set over the first three

1949
02:00:27.399 --> 02:00:31.319
days November twenty to December first from Lego dot Com

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02:00:32.039 --> 02:00:34.119
or in a Lego store, the company will include a

1951
02:00:34.199 --> 02:00:37.720
Lima Edition two hundred and sixty one piece shuttle pod

1952
02:00:39.800 --> 02:00:45.960
uh I'm not sure the name of that shuttle podzka

1953
02:00:46.680 --> 02:00:50.800
Aizuku gift with purchase of the brickset, which glues an

1954
02:00:50.840 --> 02:00:56.800
exclusive insign row Lauren minifigure embarked on an Iconic Voyager

1955
02:00:56.880 --> 02:00:59.840
with these with voyage of the creation of the Lego

1956
02:01:00.239 --> 02:01:04.520
Iconic Star Trek Tight fifteen Shuttle pop model kit for

1957
02:01:04.600 --> 02:01:08.000
a Dalphin fans of the Star Trek Necturasion series as

1958
02:01:08.119 --> 02:01:11.720
minifigure scale supports. Craft comes with an opening wing door

1959
02:01:12.319 --> 02:01:17.920
and rear hatch. Exterior details includes the vehicle name and

1960
02:01:18.079 --> 02:01:22.079
the interior features. Depicts the Elkhar displays with Star Trate

1961
02:01:22.640 --> 02:01:26.600
six' five oh seven six point three and schematic of

1962
02:01:26.680 --> 02:01:31.520
The Ramayan. Spacecraft this Set dason includes ro lerin. MINIFIGURE

1963
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i do know for the fact that this will run

1964
02:01:35.600 --> 02:01:41.439
three ninety nine in, markets AND i am just trying

1965
02:01:41.479 --> 02:01:43.520
to figure out HOW i can pre order this for

1966
02:01:43.720 --> 02:01:47.359
my collection BECAUSE i do want this in my. Collection

1967
02:01:49.119 --> 02:01:53.920
it's the first time The Star, trek but that's the

1968
02:01:53.960 --> 02:01:57.439
first time that we've actually Had Star trek And Official

1969
02:01:58.399 --> 02:02:01.920
models has done some, work But i'm not sure it's

1970
02:02:01.960 --> 02:02:06.800
been official this. Time we actually have full official licensing

1971
02:02:06.920 --> 02:02:09.600
with this. One AND i can't wait for this to come.

1972
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Out and those those who are trying to figure out the,

1973
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dates that first day Is Black friday in THE, us

1974
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AND i think a lot of other countries know about,

1975
02:02:21.840 --> 02:02:25.159
that so it's like day After American thanksgiving is going

1976
02:02:25.239 --> 02:02:28.800
to be the release the release date for. This i'm

1977
02:02:28.840 --> 02:02:30.079
curious how well this is going to.

1978
02:02:30.159 --> 02:02:34.439
Do it looks. Good i've seen some videos on. YouTube

1979
02:02:35.079 --> 02:02:38.479
it's an impressive piece that there's a locking mechanism that

1980
02:02:38.520 --> 02:02:41.960
allows the sausage section to separate. Too so, yep it

1981
02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:42.520
looks pretty.

1982
02:02:42.520 --> 02:02:46.840
Good and it can mounted to mounted. Too it's mounted

1983
02:02:46.880 --> 02:02:49.960
to its base and still balance when you put the

1984
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the back in place to put the saucage section back.

1985
02:02:58.000 --> 02:03:03.079
In the Nice, well, guys guess what time it? Is,

1986
02:03:04.640 --> 02:03:08.560
yeah that time, again time for stay good. Night another

1987
02:03:08.760 --> 02:03:12.039
another show has come and, gone but don't. Worry we'll

1988
02:03:12.039 --> 02:03:15.039
be back next, week SAME bat, time SAME bat. Channel

1989
02:03:15.039 --> 02:03:17.479
we'll be talking about episode eight Of Star Trek con

1990
02:03:17.560 --> 02:03:20.920
the audio, drama and then we'll have more, fun More

1991
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finn shout, outs and we'll go beyond with our. Birthday

1992
02:03:24.239 --> 02:03:27.119
so you definitely want to come back next. Week i'm

1993
02:03:27.159 --> 02:03:30.399
your most excellent, Host Uncle jim saying everybody please stay

1994
02:03:30.520 --> 02:03:33.119
safe and be good to each. Other thank you for,

1995
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listening and good. Night ailing frequencies are closed night Prosper

1996
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so thank You paul so much for hanging out with. Us,

1997
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paul thank, you and of course thank you and thank

1998
02:03:48.920 --> 02:03:50.880
You charles for hanging out AND tuk talking with us.

1999
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Tonight thank you so, Much. Charles oh always. Fun and

2000
02:03:56.079 --> 02:03:58.399
of course thank you To eric for hanging out and

2001
02:03:58.479 --> 02:04:01.399
trek talking with us and sharing your vast Area starts

2002
02:04:01.439 --> 02:04:04.000
with five knowledge with. Us thank, You, Eric thank you

2003
02:04:06.600 --> 02:04:09.239
and thank you to v as well for interacting with

2004
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me on My start with five trivia on Our facebook

2005
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page and then not remembering that we talked about it

2006
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on the.

2007
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PODCAST i, yeah there's no, no, yeah no. Explanation, SORRY

2008
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i don't know.

2009
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It, yeah that's.

2010
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It that's.

2011
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It and of, course thank you so much for our

2012
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very own miracle Worker david for putting this whole thing.

2013
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Together thank you so, Much. David, yeah it's been. Fun

2014
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it was, fun And i'm your most excellent, Host Uncle Jim.

2015
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Heling frequencies are. Closed good, night. Everybody money prospers some Problem.

2016
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Rica i'm just hoping this isn't the usual way of

2017
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emissions will.

2018
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Go so oh, no, No.

2019
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I'm sure most will be much more. Interesting let's see

2020
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what's up.

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There engage

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A