Star Trek: Prodigy "ASCENSION part 1-2" review

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1:47 Coming further. He didn't tell me. Now that's more like it. Hey, welcome to truck Talking. It is Thursday night Sincember twelfth, twenty twenty four. This is episode six hundred and five. We are live. Obviously you heard some grumlins take over the switchboard and you know, but when you're live, stuff like that happens and you guys get to experience it just like we do. You can ask yourself is it live or is it memorys right, David, So we we're gonna have a lot of fun tonight. Here our phone number six four six six eight four three.

2:29 Let your fingers do the walking and call Trek talking. We'd absolutely love to hear from you, David. Benjamin Tomlinson, who plays Through, is going to be on with us on September twenty six, so have your questions ready. Aaron Walroue so rude. He is going to be here on October seventeen. So if you're a Prodigy fan, you want to have. A lot of Discovery agents right now. I don't know why, Like. Wait a second, when was he cast to Strategy Prodigy Discovery fun Through? So have your questions righty. It's going to be a lot of fun tonight. We're going to be talking about Star Trek Prology Ascension Part one and part two. So if your questions ready, to give us a call. We'd love to hear from you. You have nineteen four hundred and forty followers. Thank you so much. You can go over to our Facebook page Truck Talking Podcast, Accept no imitations because there's some out there, and tell it where you're listening from this we live on and prosper at the top of the page. Do some emojis they get my attention and tune into the next podcast. Maybe you hear your name on a fan shout out. But before I get ahead of myself, I want to introduce to you guys, my awesome, my incredible tru expert. We're going to start out in Las Vegas with Charles. How do you doing tonight? Charles?

3:52 I'm doing all right. The pitchers drop a little bit. But. No fun going outside these days when you're trying to inhale all the all of the trees from California that are burning. Yeah, we're getting some smoke here too in Vermont's. I guess He's the part of life now, it seems like. And we're gonna swing out to Portland where my Triple Play is hanging out, and we'll start off with Paul the Toy Guy. How you doing tonight? Paul? Hey, I'm doing Okay, uncle Jim, I'm doing well. It's been a good week. Busy week going on, but did a rock and roll ready to talk.

4:33 About stuff and very excited. It's good to be here Friday, reunited. A couple of weeks since we've on the show, ivery spoken away, traveling, keeping busy, and what happens tonight? We're all here, We're all here together, and also from Portland, we have the very own Donut guy himself, David. How you doing, David? Pretty good? Pretty good? That was a really awesome beginning. By the way, there's something new. Some different, those revent tripling everything. And we also have from Portland our very own air. Uh.

5:13 You know, Jim, I am doing great. You know me. I'm always want to kind of get a little philosophical, and I was thinking that if, you know, maybe if home isn't just a place, then maybe Trek Talking isn't just a podcast. WHOA, I know, I know, I know, I'll put you on that who. Too much? Dope? Wow? What what I can tell? This is going to be an interesting show tonight, you know it? So anyways, guys, I head over to our Facebook page and there's all kinds of great polls there that you can that you can answer. We have a lot of fun stuff over there, and there's a pin to the top of the page Live Long and Prosper. You'll see it saying hey, where are your trucks from? Tell us where you're listening from?

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6:52 In particular London. I do love that city quite a bit, so Saneil, thank you so much for saying hello to us, and as I said, I live long and prosper to you. Also saying hello this week to Ronald Roland, who's saying hello to us from the beautiful country of Belgium. What a great place to be. So much food, so much culture, so much like coming together of languages and all kinds of fun stuff there. Ronald, thank you so much for saying hello to us from your beautiful part of the world, and I say cuplat to you, brother. Also saying hello this week to Andreas Detert who's saying hello to us from Berlin, Germany. Lots of supporters in deutsch Land over there, and Andreas appears to be one of them. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast and for supporting our Facebook page. And last but not least, we're going to say hello this week to Shirley Frohman, who's saying hello just across the border to the north in Ontario, Canada, who surely says that they have been a trekky since nineteen sixty six. Ooh, one of them old timers like you, Jim, how about that surely froman thank you so much for saying hello to us and for supporting our podcast. You are considered one of our brothers and sisters to the North, as we often say, right Charles.

8:07 Definitely, Eric. Oh, let's give a warm welcome to Bay Stephens from Houston, Texas. I hope it's cooling down in Texas. Oh. Welcome to Gage gate Kilan from Jacksonville, Florida. Welcome to Paige Reagan Wuino from Hickory, North Carolina. And I welcome to James Ray Fortner from Missouri. Welcome you for David, who's on your list? Well, I'd like to give a warm welcome to Wendy Michelle from Anchorage, Alaka. And another one welcome to Philip Wigley from Florida to Fort Myers. And a couple more.

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9:44 Also great greetings and kapla to sore and Rassmussen in Denmark. Spectacular part of the world and uh. Switching hemispheres ever, so Briet, We'll say hello to a big fan, Sewn Misso in Copp's Harbor, Australia, all the way to out there, so uh pretty fantastic. We'll see what happens. Okay, thanks friends, and of course I'll pass things over down Uncle Jim. Thank you so much. Paul. I would like to say thank you and hello to Jean Simon's who's listening to us while who says aloha from Hawaii. I also want to say hello and thank you to Diane winter Craft who's listening to us in Phoenix, Arizona. I also want to say thank you to Brian Koppo who's listening to us in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And last but not least, we want to say thank you to Jennifer Davis in Utah and everybody watch your cats and dogs. You never know what's going on with that stuff. Just little little reminder and a little warning. And who we lost Paul and we got to get Paul back. There is back.

10:55 I just hope it's not as chumpy. Oh there he is. I got them. Okay, So is that any better? Yeah? There you are? Is that a little clear? A little easier to. A little bit still a little shoppy. We don't know why, but I. Don't know why. Right now. So we we We don't have a pole song, but. We do have this, and you know what that music means. It's once again time to put on your thinking cap and join us for Star Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim. All right, guys, as I said, I can, sounds like I need to come up with a pole song. Yeah, it's coming to mind.

11:50 I think I've got it. So every week I put up some poles. I'm just hanging around at work on my copy break thinking. You know, I wonder what Star Treks fans think about this or that or the other thing, and anything can come to my old mind. It usually does, and I throw it up on our Facebook page to see what you guys thought. So the first, Paul that came to my mind was of these choices, and I have to be as specific as possible because if I'm not, I get a thousand questions from a million people. So I have to say, of these choices, who was the biggest pain in the ass or the crew? Was it Harry Mudd, was it Vosh?

12:35 Was it O'Connor, Was it Captain Angel? Or was it Syrah o Jones? And I know people were throwing out what about this? What about that? But those were your choices. Coming in in last place with two percent of the vote was Vosh And coming in who was that? Oh that's Paul. I'm sorry that came up and it messed up my computer. Coming in at fourth place was O'Connor with four percent of the vote. Third place was Captain Angel with six percent of the vote, and then we go to sierrao Jones with seven percent, and the number one pain in the ass for the crew was Harry Mud with eighty one percent of the vote. That doesn't surprise me. Did that surprise you? Eric?

13:26 It does not surprise me in particular because when you take Discovery Harry Mud into consideration, I think about that one episode Magic to make the sanest man go mad where he kind of like redoes the thing over and over and over again. That's one of those time loop things in Star Trek that like, honestly, Harry Mud could have done that a thousand times, and that just automatically makes him the number one problem for the crew, like he killed them a thousand times. And that's why I included both pictures of both of the Harry Mud in the poll, just so people wouldn't get confused. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like some old style Harry Mud. His hat and his mustache are really to die for. But but new Harry Mud is a super big pen of the ass for the crew.

14:15 Yes, that that was he. What was he doing sipping jippers on the beach? Was that it? Yeah? Shipping jippers on the beach Fridays before man. That's right? Is anyone having theirs right now? Plus he was the only reoccurring He was the only reoccurring villain in ts. Yeah that is, he. Showed up twice in T O S and in the cartoons. Yep, that's true. That makes a nemesis, I think. Yeah. So uh. The next poll that I asked was who played your favorite Christopher Pike. And this is a this is a just a give a. But was it Anson Mount, was it Sean Kenny? Was it Bruce Greenwood?

15:05 Or was it Jeffrey Hunter? So coming in last place with Sean Kenny in his wheelchair with his flashing lights with three percent of the vote, then we have Bruce Greenwood from the Calvin Universe movies. So I thought played a great Pike, by the way, coming in with fourteen percent of the vote, just edging him out. The original Captain Pike played by the late Jeffrey Hunter, got sixteen percent of the vote, and the Awesome, the Incredible, the man with the Hair got sixty seven percent of the vote. Mister Anson Mouth, So those were our favorite Captain Pikes.

15:49 And the final question of the Paul, I you know, you hear. This has done a lot, but I don't think we ever did it pifically for TNG. So I thought I would do it. So I said, of these choices, which is your favorite movie? These were the TNG movies, Generation, Insurrection, Nemesis, or First Contact. So coming in the last place with seven percent of the vote from you guys, was Nemesis? Third place was Insurrection? Just edging out Nemesis with nine percent of the vote. Then coming in second was Generations with fourteen percent, and First Contact, of course, overwhelmingly won with seventy percent of the vote. So what do you guys think? You do you think that that's pretty accurate.

16:47 Yeah, I mean, I think most people find First Contact to be their favorite, uh, you know Generation's era movie. I mean it's hard to argue with the director. You know, I'm always it's kind of hard with these four movies because if you're always gonna find Nemesis and Insurrection at the bottom, and I think those two could probably swap places and nobody would cry too much about it. What is interesting to me is that Generations didn't do better. And I always wonder, like, you know, when you kind of look back at Generations. I mean, it came out in nineteen ninety four. It was that transition movie from the TOS crew to the TNG crew in the movies, and I wonder if the nostalgia factor of kind of having the William Shatner situation in that movie has now worn off, and so people see the movie a little bit more.

17:42 Widely, or like. They see more about the movie than they used to whereas before they were sort of fooled by the the you know, excitedness of having William Shatner in it. So I don't know, it's kind of interesting to me that it only got fourteen percent of the vote. It's not surprise thing to me their first contact one though. Now I think that I think what hurt Generations the most was that they they put it out like three months after we just saw all good things. I think they should have waited a little bit longer, and that had put it out at the same time. I think that was a was a mistake, but that's just me.

18:24 And so anyways, now it's time for cadet training with Charles. What Charles does is Charles goes through the entire plethora of Star Trek to pull out episodes to help you guys relate to this week's episode. So what do we got, Charles? All Right, not a lot in here, but we definitely have a good focus on Nova Squadron. Well, we originally saw Neva Squadron on TG.

19:10 With Wesley. First Duty, season five, episode nineteen, and then they decided to surprise us in the end of Lower Decks with old Friends New Planets, where we got to re meet the entire crew again, and that was the season four episode ten. Something that was definitely mentioned by the Nova Squadron was the Delta Flyer and Tom Parris, and that deals with Voyagers season five through seven, there's episodes throughout to talk about his work on upgrading the Delta flyer Analy's.

19:58 Abilities and then laughing, I suddenly thought about the ship being pierced by this object and reminded me of Discovery Such She's Such Sweet Sorrow. Part two, Season two, episode fourteen. We had an undetonated Torpio that the Admiral went in trying to fixed, and she was going to sacrifice herself. That's all I got for this week, all right, I want to talk about what the fans thought. Yeah, every week on our Facebook page, guys, as long as we have our great poll, I asked you what did you think about this week's episode, and me tally up those your answers and we come up with a fans score and Eric, Eric, what did our fans have to say here?

20:54 Well, we scored this one together because it's a two parter, so we kind of considered it one episode. So Ascension Part one and Part two have an Amalgamated Fans score this week for drum roll please, nine point three. Nine point three. So I will tell you what that puts it in fourth place this season. From what our fans have said, we've had a nine point seven, which was Temporal Mechanics one oh one, and then we had two nine point fives, which was the season opener and a triple Call Quest and this comes in close after that. So I think if we were rounding to whole numbers, that would be a nine. Paul right, nine point three rounds down to.

21:39 A nine, I would say, yes, below nine point five. By the laws of mass exactly, because if we go to you haven't equator yet, you have to go to the hemisphere. There we go, there we go. So yeah, there you go. Nine point three for the fans score this week. Jim, Wow, you know, when Aaron Walkey comes on the show, we're gonna have so much to talk about because he's prodigy. Episodes are scoring so high that we're gonna have a lot to talk about. It's gonna be some fun, fun show. He can talk about season three. Oh no, probably not, but probably not. But if you recall last time we had him on the show, he couldn't talk about season two either, which is why we're having him back. So yeah, all right, guys, So we're gonna jump in here. We're gonna discuss the episode, and we always start off with Paul will give you guys a quick rundown about the episode, and then we'll each in turn talk about what we liked or didn't like about the episode. So, Paul, why don't you get us started before I do?

22:49 Let me just say the audio any better? No? Well, I don't know. We'll have to hear you talk a little bit. But I don't want people to hear the recap when it's all jobby. So why don't you be thirty seconds? Yeah, I'm gonna. Disconnect all in on my phone, just on the regular. Uh, the regular number, the two, four, three, three numbers? It all right? Did it? He just disappeared and I'm waiting for let's hope these gremlins.

23:31 Let's hide if we hide. When he comes back. Okay, how's that is that any better? That sounds much better? Dude? Sorry about that. I don't know what's going on with the tech, but but if this is better, let's go for it. So let's talk about this stuff. Sounds good, fellas, do it absolutely, So we're doing a two partter. We do want to sension part one in part two together. Okay, so two parter in theory, you have a lot of story to compress, you need to spread it out over two episodes. Right, So at the very beginning, we know Prodigy is back reunited with Voyager, just as Jane Way is reunited with Chicote. Right, so it's good. We start off with Dalla's personal log as we have some of these episodes this season, and he has comes to the realization kind of rhapsodically that home is not so much a place as it is being with the people that you trust, because he's had all these recent adventures and now he's back in, you know, one grounded place and reminding us that the most immediate goal here that they're trying to do is send the old ship back to tars Lamora in order to fix the past. Now we've all of a sudden got like this whole Nova Flyer training flight thing happening, right, which is Charles mentioned in his segment there. Then it's it's calling back to the whole Nova squadron thing in the first duty. But we see that actually this is initially a hologram simulation that Migell is leading there. But they have these flyers. They're

25:02 pretty cool looking. I do grant them that they're pretty cool. We also get caught up with the situation involving Zero's body that he's been in and he finds out from the doc. Hey, sorry to tell you it's irreparable, friend, this body is not going to last. And so, as we've heard in previous episodes, this means that Jack and Pog is going to have to work in some kind of replacement body for him. So you know, ideally he's going to be okay, this is what we're thinking. So then Chacote and Jane Wayer reunited. They're chatting a bit and again kind of you know, hammering the point home that Protostar have to be sent back to the past, all right, and they're all getting set to go do that, and all of a sudden they get the unpleasant news from Gosh, if you need something unpleasant delivered, who do you call? I think you call Admiral Jellicoe, right, because he just pretty much always has something unpleasantness day. And he lets him know that Starfleet as there's a line that we will be taking over the mission and the Department of Emperal Investigations will take over. And of course that lands like a smelly fish on them dock, right, I mean no way. Janeway for sure doesn't like it. Right, this is terrible news, but what choice do they have?

26:13 Right? And then abruptly Gwinn is called up to the bridge, okay, and they have a transmission from a down shuttle on solom and it's ill throng her dad, right, and he gives the news that Essentsia has assumed power back on tars Labora, dissolved the council, and somehow is able to be building these military forces by some incredibly time accelerated means. Right. They're these kind of domed areas and in what would normally take months or years to produce. She's cranking out these massive weapons of destruction and presumably more you know, troops overnight. Somehow, How is she doing this? Where is she getting this technology from? Is Janeway's big question?

26:58 Right? And then boom a sensius up on the screen, right, and she sends out some kind of great, big, you know, big cahuna vehicle, Right, some huge doomed to day weapons set up there to attack, piloted by a creepy old droid guy that we saw a lot in season one, who I believe was Dreadnock. Am I remembering that name correctly? Yep? Yeah, it looks like Dreadnock or Dreadnock's you know cousin, whatever it may be. And it basically is vampire like draining all of worgeous power. Okay, And so we have a little split up to try to help things out here. Jacota and Gwynn go off to try to protect the protostar with the Cadet crew, and we find out that hey, you know, our Nova flyers are gonna have to go an action here and we're missing a pilot conveniently, so.

27:49 What do you need? Can someone fill in? Dal? Can you, maybe, because you like to go fast, can you be one of our Nova squadron pilots here for the flyers? So Dal's going to see some action. The flyers are able to give coordinates to Voyager, and Voyager is able to use quantum torpedoes to basically try to stop the vehicle. Right, the big doomsday weapon of a sen is but all of a sudden then there is this crazy implosion and there's this wild energy net that happens a massive explosion. Voyager shields are now down to zero, the systems are all offline. They're basically sitting there at Asensia's mercy. And the first episode ends with us being with Asensia and we see that how she's been able to do all this crazy time manipulated weapons generation is that she has Wesley Crusher held captive Boom and depart one.

28:48 So there we go, Protosaurs coming to help save Voyager from attack, and it's been pretty much useless because it's been pierced by something. As Charles mentioned earlier that this massive weapon okay, like a gigantic harpoon, all right, that that she's launched. I believe she called it the Incursor, if I recollect that correctly. And what's horrible is Tysis gets hit by this energy weapon that is emitting from the giant sphere of the Incursor, and what it does to him is it basically it ages him instantly in like really dramatic fashion. So what it basically is, it's like another kind of Kime weapon, all right, and so it's basically stealing time away from people that it ends up encountering. So in this case, it's it's forcing huge amounts of time onto tysis. And so he's like an old dude. Now, he's like basically can't even you know, hold that up. So heroically Zero volunteers to try to deactivate the weapon because he says that the bodies that he's in, his temporary body doesn't age the same way.

29:56 But his body is really starting to decay because of what appears to be almost like exposure radiation. Right, really, really really very sad. We're poignant what's happening, and we have to kind of slowly watch him endure great suffering as his body starts to betray him and seems like he's approaching the end. There's a super super long dog fight between Magel's fighters or Nova fighters and all of Usensia's drones, right, and again it's like we've seen this in a lot of Star Trek, you know, going back to we say this in Percard quite a bit and on Discovery as well, where there would be a big, big, big, big big ship with launching, there's jillions of little ships, you know, like insect like attacking our you know, our folks, right, and so very familiar dynamic happening here with all of these drones and a lot of action of the fighters trying to you know, repel them, and there is apparently they're trying to do some kind of a bootbe maneuver, which of course is called back to old Gardner that we met during the Nova Squadron episode of Next Gen. Right, So, but we don't really know what the boothby Minover was.

31:07 It's kind of a reference there. While Zero depressingly dies and so it's kind of a downbeat time thing going on there. But somehow, in a way I wasn't really following super clearly, Migell tricks the weapon into following her flyer and she got it to impact Asensia's own ship, destroying it. So one of those reversed the Russian torpedoes on their own sub kind of a moment, right, That was my take on. It that we had there. And then Zero comes out of the brand new containment suit. He's not really good after all. It looks a lot like his earlier containment suit from season one, except it's more intense and excitingly courtesy of Janka, pod has more sensory inputs and I'm sure that there are some off color things I could say about those sensory inputs, but we'll just leave that alone because you know, everyone's business is their own business, so knows how those will be put to use. But you know, it does seem like he's been forming some attachments with other members of the crew, so it seemed like they might have a lot to explore there. I don't know, we'll find out, but yeah, there's a lot going on there, and it seems like a new lease on life for zero, you know. And where they will take that we don't know yet, right, but it looks promising. So now the plan is both ships will go to solom right, and apparently the way they were able to achieve victory, if I understood this correctly, is a Sensia is trying to, like, you know, do her whole Monday morning quarterback thing with Wesley is Wesley only showed one of the possible outcomes and he was

32:38 able to hide the others in his mind. So that was what I heard going on there. And there's some kind of you know, evil hand ringing from Asensia there. As we fade to the credits, and she says Star defleet will be unprepared for what comes next, whatever that may be. We as the audience, have no idea, and so that's basically unless missing anything really important fellas. That was the gist of Ascension Part one and Part two. As far as the main plot points go, How did this episode play for me? I found them compared to the last like six or seven episodes that we've reviewed, I kind of found this not really engaging. For the most part. I felt like this was a lot of you know, big action stuff with the dog fighting things, the Nova flyers and and I think a lot of it is I find a Sensia a super non compelling antagonist.

33:45 She seems really one dimensional. I don't really have a clue what her motivations are. She seems just to be power mad and she really gets off on making really evil expressions, you know, like you know, and you know, sneering and all intense and. You know all we call those we call those mustache twirling villains. Yeah, I think that's really I think that's a perfect name for it. Right. It's just I don't get much from her, and I find her scenes really boring. I don't really feel right threatened from her. She's the smirk, all right, I just don't get much from her, and I don't feel like she's a legit threat. I mean, I feel like and eventually she's going to be you know, her evil Queen will be knocked off the chessboard pretty perfunctorily in some way that we didn't expect, right, And I feel like in the last bunch of episodes, we've had a whole lot of good character building with Mike Doll and Gwynn and Rock Dock and whatnot, and I feel like we didn't get much of that in this episode at all. So it was a little tepid for me.

34:48 I mean, I know that we were supposed to feel really bad when Zero lost their body and you know, it appeared to die, but I was kind of dispassionate it. It didn't really pull me in the way I really think I was supposed to feel or you know, I didn't feel like there was a very real poignance there. Maybe if Migel had been forced to like, maybe say, we're communicating with each other on like, you know, some kind of intercom system and they were. They needed a Star Trek to moment in that. Yeah, I didn't feel that way too. I did. I felt like in that moment they needed a like one person on one side of the glass and the other person on the other side. Like it didn't really be that, but it had to be that kind of a.

35:30 Th sub equivalent some equivalent to that, yeah, because I just found it really depressing and I didn't I was just like, you know, I mean, I really didn't think they were going to kill Zero, you know, because I think there are really popular characters and I just I would have been surprised if they had done that. But I just I just was kind of a buzzkill man. And and for me, a lot of this episode just seemed like kind of not you know, it didn't really advance the plot that much. I mean, there was a lot of reminding us that we, hey, were the real purpose of our whole thing in this episode or the season is to you know, get the ship back to fixed History. Okay, we know that, and we know that we've you know that Zero's going to need another containment, so we know that there's no nothing really new. The only thing we really found out here was that Wesley has been held captive by Essensia, you know, and you know, practically you know, tied up and left on the railroad tracks in terms of you know, the way it's depicted, you know, so I just it didn't really you know, there was very little, you know, I would have loved to have more emotional rapport between Jane, Wayne and Chakote being reunited. I don't think both those actors got short shrifts here, and so a little a little less than engaging for me. I think that they just needed to have a lot of convoluted stuff. But it kind of feels to me at the end of the day like this is one of those things where they had maybe you know, one or two too many grid spaces to fill in the writer's room, right because this didn't need to be stretched out to this degree. We didn't need

37:00 to be a two parter. I can guess maybe having a one episode that conveyed all this stuff. Right as we're realizing, okay, we're trying to solve problems, we're trying to get back to you know, get the ship where it needs to be, and know, okay, here comes the sensia. We're being attacked and all that the zero's you know, are inter changes, you know, containment. But two episodes really felt stretched out needlessly for me. So I still really love the overarching plot of this season. I just think this felt like, you know, uh, you know, too much better to spread around on the past, right, And it just didn't didn't didn't hold. It felt kind of kind of bored for a lot of it, and it felt really perfunctory, like let's give them a big space battle, let's do this, you know, and let's show the villain.

37:48 And so yeah, I would say my episode for my rating for both these episodes would be the same for. Both part one and part two. I would I would give in a seven. I would say it'd be my and you know, putting them both together, I would give it a seven. And I'm comparing them to like, you know, lesser episodes from like say Picard in season one and two that drove me nuts, that were really not good at all. That is very unsatisfying for me. So I still think this is better than that. For understand where my seven comes from, Right, I'm not gonna give a Prodigy episode of four or three. I'm just never going to do that because it's way smarter than that. And I love these characters and I generally really love the storytelling, but I feel like they were just kind of you know, punching the clock here, you know, and so it didn't really give me a very satisfying experience overall. So reluctantly given a seven for both episodes together, and really hope that we get back to the character building in more suspense suspenseful plot dynamics is what I'm really hoping we do. So that's that's my take. Fellas.

38:59 How about you who to go next? Well that would be David, So we got a seven. David, You're up next? What are you gonna do? All right? So yeah, I kind of agree with Paul in a lot of ways. I just hope that they don't turn the villain here into mall two point zero. So and it's for you know, people who know who' ma Ali from the Discovery villain anyways, So to me, I'm hoping that, uh, I don't understand. I kind of understand why she doesn't like the Federation because she kind of explains it a little bit from the previous episodes of like what she doesn't like about the Federation, But to me, I just don't think that makes it enough to be a villain. I mean, how old are these people anyway? Are they supposed to be like in the thirties or twenties even Okay, I thought this was supposed to be a kid show where we have a kid here, those who are saving today were as proposed to, you know, young adult. I guess, I don't know. Maybe they all are young adults. I'm not really sure even what Pog's age is.

40:12 You know, you know, David, I have done a lot of thinking about that, especially as it relates to Michelle and Zero's relationship, and I think that they My guess is that the crew is entirely meant to be in the teenage years, because I, you know, I have a sophomore in high school here at home, and she's into that kind of like zone of life where responsibility is being taken but she doesn't exactly know what she's doing, and relationships might be a thing, but maybe not. So it's a very confusing time of life. So I think that's sort of like mid teens is where they are maybe fifteen, sixteen years old, Like my guess, like the age of Wesley Crusher when we first meet him.

40:53 In Yeah, okay, no, that makes sense. I was just saying, like because they all look pretty and the main villain looks really young for some reason. Of course, there was a smaller version of herself on the planet when they went back in time. But this whole thing about the plot point of why she being such a bad villain is still a mystery. So I'm I'm guessing it's because she doesn't like the Federation values and so she had ideology just different. But we talked about this, I feel like an episode or two ago where we talked about the fact that it's the she blames the Federation for starting the war on her planet, and so she her motivation is still that she thinks if she stops all of this protostar stuff from happening, that the war on her planet won't happen. Now, I also agree with Paul that she's a little bit of a megalomaniac, and so there's a little bit of that thrown in. But ultimately I think she hates the Federation because of she has knowledge of the of like what finding the protostar does to her planet.

42:01 Right, Yeah, I mean it's all about time travel. So I mean, to me, it's still a little off because I'm going to explain about that whole time travel thing with Wesley later. But so anyways, there is one thing I did like about this particular episode that I actually thought of, and it actually had been asking myself this entire time since I saw Star Trek and then nobody had ever explained it except for this episode, which was the hologram. What happened when somebody walks in and you're like in an outplane or whatever, like Gray were doing just upside down, you know, freezing the scene, and it was like, when in the hologram, what happened? Did it his fall? But apparently they just float back down, which is kind of interesting. I actually like that, And it was the rest of this episode. Yeah, I was expecting a start a storyer to pop in when they were doing the dogfight. To be honest, I was like, Wow, this feels a lot like Star Wars for some reason, it's always had fighters that Trek just fighters. It doesn't work for me for some reason when it comes to faith battle. But anyway, so as far as that's concerned, I would have to probably give this episode a seven point five. Be honest, there was a couple of things that I actually liked about, like the I think it was this episode where they mentioned about, uh, that triple who went to the bathroom in her pocket, I was like,

43:33 I was thinking about, like, what's gonna happen when she starts happening to go to the bathroom. So they mentioned that, which I thought was kind of nice. But other than that, yeah, I think seven point five for this episode, and I'm gonna have to give the other episode a little bit better. It's because the ending actually kind of surprised me a little bit with that whole Wesley being in prison stuff, And honestly, the more I think about it, I'm actually thinking, how did that work? Exactly? With time travel? Once you time travel, you start opening up I guess, different doorways in a sense to other realities, and then once that happened, you start meeting yourself. So how long had Wesley been doing this? And how many replicas has he been meeting of himself over the years? And so I was thinking, are they going to make a bunch of Wesleys come and rescue Wesley? Is he going to rescue himself with a different time traveler? So to me, I was thinking, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense when he's like stuck and yet he's a time traveler, you know, he's supposed to be able to think of things that nobody else thought of, So I don't know. I thought it was just like a little redundant in a way that he stuck. So I don't know. To me, that whole scene where that torpedo comes crashing crashing in the voyage and everything, I thought that would kind of cool.

45:05 You know, they showed the thrusters maneuvering trying to get out of the way. But then again, I was like, how did they use the thrusters if their power is completely down? So I mean, I know they kind of backed up their second relays and whatever, but to be honest, I was like, Eh, well it doesn't really matter. But other than that, so that female alien from the Nova Squadron, I actually found a mistake that they made. Remember when they were in the corridor and they come running down or actually walking down, and the side panel blew up, and so she got hurt in her right arm. Well, when the doctor comes around to put the bone back in place at the toward the end of that scene, she's wearing the boys in her left arm, which I thought was a little strange. I was like, wait a minute, I thought it was the right arm, so I didn't understand why they did the leftime. But maybe it's just a mistake. But anyway, I'll at the best. But so the other thing was that the shape of that giant ship that came out of whatever warp they used. I thought it looked a lot like well, first of all, the first thing that popped in the mind was the narrata from the two thousand and nine movie. Secondly, when they fully came out, it looked a lot like a board vessel to me, and yes, it was read. And

46:39 that's where I was starting to wonder, like, is their connection with the card because that whole incident where the board queen kind of like stopped whatever that was coming through. Could that have been her maybe in a different time zone or in that time zone, I mean, like a different reality. I thought it was kind of an interesting connection. But but yeah, I don't know. I mean, this whole time travel thing kind of gets a little hairy when it comes to capturing somebody who's the actual time traveler. And I was like, oh, okay, fine, So I just thought that part was a little strange. So I'm actually gonna give this episode an eight, just because it did have quite a few fun little sequences of like using the potort Star, for instance, to acquire a target lock instead of the fighters. I was actually thinking about that too, and I was like, why couldn't they just use the potor star. I know that Janeway said to back off and everything, but Coach, we all knew that he wasn't going to be a back off. I mean, it's your family we're talking about here. You don't mess with family, right, So to me, I just thought it was an interesting little thing going on here that I was like, well, why did you do this? And then eventually they did it.

47:58 I was like, okay, cool. So yeah, to me, I'm going to give this one an eight. And I enjoyed it a little bit more than I thought I would, So I don't know, I think that would probably be what I would yeah, and eight would be for me. All Right, we got an eight and that leads us all the way over to Eric m You got the bloody. Okay, well I do. I am very intrigued by where this technology that Essensia is using is coming from. I mean, I think that we're supposed to get the sense from this episode that she is harvesting information from Wesley's mind, right, and Wesley comes up with like the possible scenarios, and then she sees them and then she makes reactions.

48:55 Based on that. I will say that the technology itself seems pretty advanced, and I kind of agree with David's point that it feels like it's got a little bit of a borg flare to it. I also thought of the nerata. Like big time. Right when it starts coming out of the rift thing and you see the little spikes, You're like, oh, oh, yeah, it's Nero's narrata. Yeah, we've seen this before, but it's red instead of green, Like that's the big difference. So I'm pretty interested in her technology, and I feel like over the course of the next couple episodes, we're probably going to get more information as to how she actually caught a traveler and imprisoned him. That seems impossible, but if Star Trek is good at one thing, it's showing us how the impossible becomes possible. So I'm sure there's a you know, trechnobabble explanation for how Wesley himself gets captured.

49:51 You know. It's funny. David was saying that he doesn't like the fighters thing. I personally love fighters. I love fighters in all science fiction. I love him in Battle Star Galactica, I love them in Star Wars, and I love them here. And you know, we of course have seen fighters before. We've seen Dominion and Federation and actually Romulan fighters during the Dominion War in Deep Space nine, so we know that fighters are actually part of Federation fleets. Here we see bad guy fighters. And of course, I mean, of course, if you have one big giant mega ship, you're gonna have to have some kind of like little tiny ships right to like tend the gates, so to speak. So I don't know that part didn't really really bug me too much. I will say, you guys all know I am a sucker for a good love story. And this whole thing about Zero getting themselves a new body that has tactile sensors that now will allow them to interact with Michelle in a different way, I swear to God if they do the Vulcan two finger thing, I'm gonna lose my shit, because that is what I am waiting for, is that that moment when Michelle and Zero actually get to connect, like on the physical plane posted just on the intellectual plane, which is where they've sort of enjoyed each other's company so far. So I'm very excited about Zero's new body.

51:20 I love I love that their hands look like Jenkins hands. You know, they've got like the three fingers and they're kind of like telewrite bootleg hands. I think that's pretty cool. Regarding Asensia, so Paul, I think Paul brought up some great points about her that she doesn't She has a little bit of a mustache, twirling villain. I think that the reason for her motivations is cryptically buried back several episodes, maybe even last season. I can't remember when, like how we even know this part about why she cares about the protostar. So I'm not gonna lie. I pretty much agree with his assessment that she's not a super interesting character.

52:01 For me, it's not the first time in modern Star Trek, though, that we've seen a character like that that just sort of was bad for the sake of being bad. I think about, oh god, the character from Picard, Oh my gosh, I'm losing the actress's name. Plumber, not Christopher Plummer, Amanda, Amanda Plumber, like her character from Picard, I felt was kind of the same way. We were all like, oh my god, I'm freaking out she's on Picard, And then they did her character and we were all kind of like, eh, she was okay, like not just sort of another mustache twirling villain. Don't really understand her motivations. So, you know, I can't disagree with Paul. I think Sensia is maybe a little bit more interesting just because she's got the whole like race connection to Gwen and the whole like planetary cultural connection thing. So I think it's marginally more interesting, probably because of that. I like in these episodes that the Voyager crew sort of acknowledges that they're not back in the prime timeline. We talked about that a little bit last week and about how, like, if we're thinking about our layers of inception when it comes to Star Trek Prodigy, we're like one layer away from where we need to be right now, right And they even acknowledge it so far in this episode as to have Chacote talk about how Admiral Janeway is not his Admiral Janeway,

53:35 but she has updated her look so that she kind of like looks. Like his Admiral Janeway. So I don't know, I don't know why she would do that. Maybe that's the like Janeway Chacote character development here. Maybe like that's acknowledgment of Janeway's thing for Chacote that she's always sort of secretly had on the side. She's like, you know what, I'll update my look for you, brother, because your tattoo is popping right now. Thrusters activate at very low power settings, very go David. Thrusters are almost always available, but almost always useless as well. So that's my that's my take on that. I'll say that I think my favorite scene of the entire two episode arc here was the scene where Zero in their old body, their secondary body, or actually their tertiary body, right because they've been they went through two robot bodies. Their third body was this like alien body thing. But when they are aging and they are just trying to do a thing while they are aging, it was excruciating. It took the entire episode for it to happen, and I like that.

54:46 I like that it made me kind of uncomfortable along the way. It was like, oh my god, just do the thing, and they and then they would hold off until the next you know, series of scenes or whatever. So I I personally love that kind of idea of sacrifice while Jenkins on the side trying to build the new body. So I think they were kind of like hinting at that you know, Wrath of con scene where the two were on the other either side of the glass, but they didn't quite get there. So anyway, that's my take on Zero why Zero is still one of my favorite characters. So in the end, I kind of have to come in I think where my fellow trekspersts are coming in. I'm gonna give this one a seven point five.

55:32 I'm not afraid of the decimal. I feel like it deserves just a little bit more than a seven because of all of its callbacks to other versions of Star Trek, because it's got some cool mystery in it, like what the hell's going on with Wesley right now? And then it's also kind of got this like Zero arc, which I'm a big fan of. So seven point five for me for both of these episodes. Seven point five. Well, Charles at the microphone, you're going to follow up at seven point five? What do you got for us? What do you got for us? Brother? You're up. Okay, all right. I actually got a few notes written down to this episode. It was interesting our arc with Jellico, how we tried to control the mission. Yeah, and then and at the end, all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, well we can't can't do a whole lot. We're all our forces are tied up. It's like, okay, I think I think she's overall trying to push into a sense of his plan because he didn't send anybody's help.

56:43 Charles, Charles, I forgot to mention Jellico, and can can we just mention that? Like, is he not. Made the bad guy in Star Trek Prodigy, Like he's he's obviously a pain in the ass, Like he's never done as saying that. People have been like, oh that's cool. Jellico gave a really great order. Is he always the bearer of bad news? I thinking definitely still playing the bad the evil Admiral. Yeah, yeah, I mean would feel a little track in some ways, but like also, if somebody's going to do it, then it's got to be him, right, Yeah, I.

57:24 Love that. Pronouncing it. Her father comes back sending the message. I liked that. Catch him there. We're curious if he was what happened to him? Curious about that. I thought something rather interesting when the ship mentioned of where I was traveling, where the ship was traveling from, and he detected the ship first, I mean Rember unless gyms got really muted, the ship was detected by citation pops. They're the ones that found the ship.

58:15 That's right. The first time I think we've actually had them looking for and scanning for the ships. And I love. Yeah, I love the technobabble and trying to pronounce the trite chromometric deterioration mm hmmm is what was happening on board the ship so that the weapon was there to age trying to aid the ship into destruction and they're trying to where the go ahead.

59:02 I was just gonna say, that's a nasty weapon and where you going to bring The next statement that they said, who was going to handle that issue, which I also forgot to mention, well the department, Well right. But I like that. We need somebody to go in and disarm the weapon, and they decide that Zero gets sent in. And we had more hints on Zeros a condition in this episode because we saw them with a kine more my second viewing and realized, oh they are. They are deteriorating an age and I want to steal the thun Thunder from him, so I'll give them a chance. What move did What was the first move that, uh, the Nova Squadron made?

1:00:17 Jim? Well, remember the ultimate move, the Yaeger loop? What what else would it be? Do you remember the entire move o aboard Starvers. It was like it was like three moves if she was like this thing into that thing into a er loop or whatever. Phoenix, it's a theens triad into a Yager loop. And I took it out of my cadet notes, But the Yaeger loop was actually mentioned in the Nova squad episode from TNNG. That was something they were attempting, so that's why they were picking it up. But I love that they took the squadron ship and added some DELP flyer abilities to it, for these aren't just pure fighting ships.

1:01:22 These are enhanced fighting ships. And people are kind of scratching their head. Well, wait a minute, how did they get a weapon off the off of Voyager and go after the squadronship. Because these the weapon can only the only lock and can only lock in and disrupt a Starfleet vessel. It can't do multiple so they locked its signature whereas you have a torpedo, it has a signature lock.

1:02:08 They put the signature lock off the Voyager and sent it to the squadron ship. Then they produced the great maneuver going in flying in pauseic cause to have it hit the ship. Where is she getting all this material? Lias is. Capture time agent. You put them in such a tit restraint that they can't escape, and she's feeding information off of Wesley, whereas he showed her that image, she's been draining information off of him. So somebody he made a comment last week and they made the right prediction Paul when he said, oh, I think Jacob will have a hand in Zero's body, Well yep he did. Now I think what's coming up in this episode is I think we're going to have a new rescue. I don't think he realize it, but I think somehow they've got to help rescue Wesley and help him escape, and then move

1:03:40 into how we're going to get the finale of getting the protostar back to where it belongs or why is the sense of doing what she's doing. She has a major hatred of the Federation. She considers they're the ones that destroyed her planet. They caused the war, so she went to destroy them to help what she think is going to rescue her planet. Which I think Charles is to the point that that actually, if the writers were to like take this to the next level, it's a thing that they should actually bring up and remind people of throughout the season. Now, if we were binging this, maybe we would, you know, more readily remember it, right, Yeah, But since it's been.

1:04:29 Personally for me, personally for me, I've got some dislike and hatreds towards her because she is doing that good villain part. She's there trying to be the real villain, and I think I like the direction that that's being taken. I am going a lot more towards fans on this one, and I was on the edge of my seat at time. I enjoy these episodes together. I enjoyed this pair, and I'm giving this set a nine. I thought they did a great job with it, a nine, So I gotta I gotta follow up a nine. Wow, Okay, so let me give it my best Jaeger loop shot here.

1:05:21 So I enjoyed it just like it's just like Charles did. And I was listening to what everybody said. I did definitely get a Star Wars feel from it. There's no doubt in my mind. When the Protostar was whipping around the giant ship, I kept seeing the Millennium Falcon from Return of the Jedi. I'm like, Wow, it's Star Wars. But that's okay, you know, that's cool. Star Wars did it first, Star Wars did it best, so that's fine with me. That didn't bother me. But I definitely got the Star Wars vibe from it. The Yaeger Loop, Ultimate Zero and Nagel. So here's my take on that thing. You guys were saying he didn't get the Spock feel, but I did. And what I got the Spock feel from I truly. As I was sitting there watching it, I said to myself, Oh my god, they're going to kill Migel, and I'm not gonna watch the show anymore.

1:06:17 Because Wesley told her that she had to be there, that she was wrapped up in this whole thing and she had to play a part. And when they said they were going to target the giant cucumber thing on her ship and she was going to crash it into the Narrata ship. I thought that that's her part. She's she's going to sacrifice herself to save her family like Spock did in The Wrath of Khan, and I honestly one hundred percent thought that's what was going to happen. And then they pulled the old switcherruie on me because as the ship was crashing, they all ejected in these little pods and she didn't die. But right up to that point, I was one hundred percent sure that it was going to be her that was going to sacrifice herself.

1:07:01 So yeah, I got that feel that, I got that Wrath of con feel from that particular moment. When I saw it, I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna I'm gonna give up on the show. If they kill her, If they kill my favorite character like they always do, I'm done. But they didn't, so kudos to them for not doing that. Wesley. So here's my how do you capture a time traveler who knows what's going to happen before it happened? And how would a sensia even know that Wesley exists in the first place and where to find him when he's in these interdimensional time things they're hiding from the new How would she even remote? I don't know. That whole thing just seemed contrived to me, just to make the episode work. I didn't buy it at all. Unless Wesley is setting her up, you know, kind of like an Avengers endgame thing, where there's only one way it plays out, and he's played them all out in his brain, and he's setting her up instead of the other way around that that is a distinct possibility, because I don't think Wesley is stupid enough to be captured by someone like her, because she's not the sharpest tool in the shed. She's just hooked on revenge and hatred and anger, and in that clouds your judgment, clouds

1:08:32 your thoughts, and I just I think Wesley's got something up as proverbial sweater seeds. We'll have to see she doesn't, I'll be disappointed. But how did she catch him? How did she know where he was? There's a lot of questions there, but we'll wait and see what happens. I thought when when Jacot Well, I really thought that Jane Way and Jacota were going to plant one on each other right there. She kind of gave him that tender on the shoulder type of deal, and I thought, wow, but this was a lifetime movie. They'd be locking lips right now, but they didn't. That's cool too. I did like when Chacote says to Nova Squadron that Doll is a likes to fly fast and take him with you.

1:09:22 I really like the support that Jacote is giving to Doll. I think that's great. He's giving a supportment in his quest to be a captain, and I like that a lot. I really liked the doctor in this episode. I thought he was great. Little parts that he did have I thought were good. Jellico was his typical dick self, which what do you expect from Jellico? And when Jane Way when they were going to go rogue and uh what happened? The Andrian officer says, well, we can't go rogue again, and she Otey agrees and Jane May says, okay, we won't.

1:10:04 So I thought that was a nice little exchange in the officers lounge right there, right there? What else? What hasn't been said? The fighters? I was like it. It reminded me of those little floating things from Insurrection that were flying around on the planet. Tagging to people so they could beam them up and drain their life force. There. That's what they reminded me of when they were flying around. Let's see. The ship definitely reminded me of the Dorada for sure. You know, how did the giant ship get there so quick? I don't know, anybody know. I don't know unless she used and travel of voodoo that she learned from Wesley.

1:10:58 I mean, it was it was too close to exactly the look of the Nerata coming out of the time rift in Star Trek two thousand and nine for it not to be a time anomaly in my opinion, Like, if you're if you're a Star Trek fan watching that scene, you're like, oh, that's the scene from two thousand and nine. And that unless unless they're using let's say that Borg trans Transit or my CIA network. Yeah, it's just that it emerges kind of out of an invisible plane in exactly the same way that the Nearrata does. So I don't disagree with you, Charles, there are many ways, But like all of those things have a visual style to them too that was not represented here.

1:11:43 I think that the only visual style we saw here was emerging from time rift style. Yeah, kind of like the card episode where the board came in to stop whatever punching through whatever that hole space. See, and if Wesley, if Wesley knows the future, Wesley would know. And this is where it gets confusing and with the tiny winey stuff, but Wesley would already know the outcome of what would happen if he sent the ship to that particular point in time, and if they use the time travel Kelvin thing like we saw in two thousand and nine, Wesley would know, Well, if I send, if I show her this version and she sends the ship there, this is what's going to happen, and it's going to lead to like moving chess pieces on a chessboard, and that's what I'm hoping.

1:12:40 But there's multi but there could be multiple outcomes you've seen. He could be showing what was one possible version of that timeline ending not predicting that they're smart enough to shane the timeline. Well, that explains why the ship looks a lot like Dorada if that was the thing that he sold her, because then she just copied the ship design. I guess I don't know. Yeah, well, but remember the narrata was just to be careful there, because the Narrata was not like designed as a time traveling ship. It was a mining ship.

1:13:22 I'm just saying that Wesley showed her that image like what Jim said, you know, like the whole uh that part of the story or whatever, and so then she just like, hey, that's a cool design. I'll just make that ship and make a difference. I guess, I don't know, Yeah, it's thrown it out there. I just think that. Something I wanted to jump in there because I forgot to mention this. Did you notice that? Because she was feeding off of Wesley's knowledge. Wesley knew all of these Stanner maneuvers of ships. So when Squadron was doing their fighting, he was able they was.

1:14:12 She was able to predict. The drones were able to follow and predicted stander maneuvers when they're smart enough to say, okay, don't use Sanam maneuvers. That was how they could defeat the ships because they were using something that the ships couldn't come up with. So those drones are using an AI using standard standard movements. If you prevent those standard if you don't follow those standard movements, the AI then can't. Predict, right, because it's coming from Wesley's knowledge of the nova squadron exactly. I mean, you know, when you get into this time stuff, it can go. It just it's just a matter of how you perceive it. I don't think there's really any right or wrong. We'll have to see where they go with it.

1:15:04 Would be fair to say that it's all relative. It's all relative. Yes, is going to resture himself with a bunch of other Wesley's. I think that's gonna probably go where it can be. I think, yeah, I think because don't forget Soji is there too. She remember in Picard she became one of the one of these alive. So she's floating around somewhere. So I mean there's a please no, please no. I think no, that wasn't so what was his named con?

1:15:47 I don't even remember her name, but that actress. But I think Wesley knows what he's doing. I think he this is all part of his plan. I think he's luring Estensia into thinking that she's got it made and then she doesn't. We'll have to see. But overall, though I did, I did enjoy it. It did have a lot of Star Wars failure. Guys, are absolutely correct on that, but I'm gonna go with an eight point Where should I go with, Paul, I'm gonna go with an eight point three on this One's not quite an eight point five, but it's better than an eight. So I'm gonna go with an eight point three for these two episodes. That's my score and I'm sticking to it.

1:16:32 So there, you have no way to bribe you to go a little higher. The Trek Spurts have spoken, so Charles, compared to what our fans on our Facebook gave it a nine point three, How does that compare with our trek Spurts. Well, I had to go in and take because of somebody's score, modify the average and had to put it to a seven. Point nine five hmm, Well we had. And at seven point.

1:17:16 A little bit like it. Point that's like a little lesson what the fans thought. Humm. And Paul, what did what did our our IMBD score it? As we're trying to say, and I want to say, uh, an eight something. I mean, they've generally been really favorable. Let me just double check it here for you. I've got that open right now. So we had for these two one almost neck and Neck Part one eight point five, Part two eight point six, so really high. I mean, I think most people seem like they really liked it. Those are pretty much just you know those tie back when we had the I Love This two part of Devour of All Worlds. I thought it was a great tuo partner. And that's the same score that that one got, so people generally really like it. And I remember this has been up for a while, so yeah, you know, aren't like fresh numbers, right, I mean, they're ones that have represent a lot of people watching it over times.

1:18:15 They're pretty solid averages, right, yeah. So yeah, so we got a couple of individual episodes. Next we had Brink, which is the next one we'll do, and then Touch of Gray, which certainly intimates aging and time in that title, so I'll be curious about that one. And then we have the two par finale after that, so it'll be good to have a couple of individual episodes, and those tend to lean themselves more I think, towards character building and smaller moments, so I'm really looking forward to that. That's I hope that's what we get. And then we have Aaron Walk So what more could you ask for? And no, I know that'll be great. And he was, man, he was such a great cast on my lot. He was just terrific guy waiting to you know, here is yeah, just here. Let's just let the guy talk, right, Just let him go, bananas.

1:19:06 You just let him go, all right, guys. So that that wraps up our discussion on Ascension part one and part two. And now is time for our birthdays. So that was not a Clinton song. And this week I got the right birthday song. Last week I played the wrong one. Stuff. There you have it, all right, guys. We always start off our Star Trek birthdays by sadly or enough remembering those members of our Star Trek family who are no longer with us, and for that we turned to.

1:19:51 Eric, Yeah, Jim. This week we're gonna remember five members of our Star Trek community who have gone before us, and we're gonna open with h Unfortunately, a brand new member of our remembrance community. Just last month we lost Patty Yasutaki. She's the actress, of course, who played Alyssa Ogawa in sixteen episodes of the Next Generation and in two Star Trek films, Star Trek Generations and Star Trek First contact. Yasukataki remembered watching Star Trek the original series together with her family on television, and several years later she auditioned for the part of an unnamed con officer on TG but wasn't actually cast. Eventually, she of course got that part of nurse Alissa Ogawa in the fourth season episode Future Imperfect, but she wasn't convinced that she was going to be called back, so although she was a contender for that role as well as the role of Keiko O'Brien, she eventually would get recast as Alissa Ogawa, which I think is pretty cool. Interestingly enough, you know, throughout her television career she was cast many many times as a doctor or a nurse on television movies along the way, so I guess typecast might be the type of thing that.

1:21:15 You know befits her. But she of course had many many different television credits to her name. You can go on her IMDb page, but just it's pretty deep. She was guest starring on many many shows back in the day. But Patti Yasutaki unfortunately lost just August fifth, at twenty twenty four, at the relatively young age of seventy years old. We do miss her and you know, wish all the best of her family happy birthday as well. To Bruce Gray, he's the actor who played Admiral Chakote, not that one, but the one who spelled slightly differently in The Deep Space nine second season episode The Circle and in the Next Generation seventh season episode Gambit Part one. He later played Surak.

1:22:02 That Surak, yeah, the one right in Star Trek Enterprises four season episode Awakening. What a great episode. If you haven't seen that episode of Star Trek Enterprise, stop what you're doing and go watch it out because it's really good. What's that? Yeah? I know? He also, I know it is. The Stalagmites are involved there, Yes, yes, yes, but Bruce Gray also starred in the entire run of the Canadian series Traders and had a reoccurring role on Babylon five. Yeah, he was on Babylon five. He was also a regular on the American version of the show Queer as Folk.

1:22:48 He was the father of the groom in the two thousand and two comedy My Big Fat Greek Wedding. I'm sure you saw that, and in two thousand and eight he made a brief appearance on Boston Legal, which of course we all know was the show that William Shatner did later on in his career. So Bruce Gray lost back in twenty seventeen at the right old age of eighty one years old. We do miss him. Thank you so much for your Star Trek contributions and happy Birthday, Happy birthday as well to Byron Morrow. He's the veteran actor who played Admiral Komak in the TOS second season episode A Month Time. Also played Admiral Westverly in the third season episode for the World as Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky. He was the first actor on Star Trek to appear as a character in the Admiralty.

1:23:33 That's right, he's our precedent for what an admiral should be like, and not a bad one, I would say. Born in Chicago, Illinois, Morrows served his country in World War Two, performing in theater productions during his tour of duty. He began appearing in film and television in the late nineteen fifties and amassed some two hundred appearances in a career spanning the next thirty five years. Prolific actor Byron Morrow lost all the way back in two thousand and six at the ripe ripe old age of ninety four years old. Thank you so much, Byron. We really appreciate your contributions to Star Trek and happy birthday to you. Happy birthday as well to Richard Webb, the actor who played Lieutenant Commander Benjamin Finney in the TOS first season episode Court Martiall. Webb is probably best recognized as the star of the nineteen fifties science fiction series Captain Midnight.

1:24:29 He was also the star of a short lived syndicated adventure series called Border Patrol, which aired in nineteen fifty nine, and remembered for his supporting roles in such critically acclaimed films as Out of the Past and Sands of Ewojima. Web retired from acting after portraying the role of General Rawlings on the daytime drama series Days of Our Lives and became an author, writing four books on psychic phenomena and the occult. Yeah that's right, talk about it. Career switch Richard Webb lost ten ninety three. Happy birthday, Richard. And last but out least in our remembrance list this week is actor John Cole. John coll played Herm Gossip in the TOS first season episode MUDs Women. He also had small roles in three movies, A Portrait of a Mobster from sixty one, The Split from sixty eight, and The Wrecking Crew from sixty nine, and over a dozen television guest appearances from nineteen sixty five through nineteen seventy two, including things like Bewitched, which I watched an awful lot of, I will admit, also Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, The Fugitive, and I Spy. He also served as a first lieutenant in the US Army during the Korean War in the fifties. So John Cole lost back in two thousand and three at seventy five years old. Happy birthday to you, and that does it for our remembrances. Guys, I'm going to pass this slaming birthday candle. Oh yeah, I miss you missed one, could I miss Robert Wise?

1:26:01 Robert Wise the director and acting executive producer of the nineteen seventy nine film Star Trek Demotion picture That's the Guy. He received his sole Saturn Award nomination as Best Director for this film. And I will tell you thank you Charles for bringing this up. Paul and I have been to see this movie together on the big screen, and this is something else, right, guys, this is what brought us from the television series into the new realm of Star Trek, and it was just something special at that time. I mean, unfortunately it followed Star Wars, which I think it will forever be compared against. But I don't think there's any comparison because it's actually got a totally different vibe to it, much more similar to nineteen sixty eight, two thousand and one Stanley Kruberg's film. But I love this movie, and Robert Wise was a big part of making that thing happen the way that it did. Anybody else want to say anything about Robert.

1:26:55 Wise, He was a genius. I mean he was just so incredible influential. I mean, you know, I would say to a huge degree, you know, I mean, there's a handful of movies that you can say really helped make established cinematic science fiction. Right, There's just so so few because. A lot of them were like the ones that were like cheesy and goofy, right, you know, ridiculous, right, But but where there were serious ideas going on and there was really something happening. You got to go back to Robert Wise nineteen fifty one, The Daily Earth stoods Okay with Michael Rennie. I mean we the tip of the hat to that is in the you know what, was it the the season one premiere of Strange New Worlds.

1:27:43 I think where Pike is watching it in his cabin, right, I mean belovedly. It's just it's I'm pretty sure that was the episode. But I mean, if you've never seen that movie, I mean, it's like The Ten Commandments. I mean, this is incredible. It's just there's a lot of ideas and amazing stuff in there. And I had the great pleasure to meet Robert Wise briefly in New York years ago. I mean just to say hello, you know, but what a fricking legend. I mean. Also on his sci fi the CZ is an incredible picture called The Andromeda Strain. I don't know if you've ever seen met, but another brilliant picture, brilliant picture, The Andrama Strain. And movies like The Sand Pebbles, The Sound of Music, West Side Story.

1:28:28 He was just a Hollywood legend, right, and I think the thing that he brought to you know, I think to reinforce what Eric's talking about why this movie feels so different from the other movies that came afterwards from the Nicholas Myer era. Right, is Wise really interested the idea of an epic and the movie emotion picture was something different. It was a cinematic experience. He structured all of those I mean, we're lucky that the director's cut is all restored now and you can watch it on four K and just crystal clear imagery. It's just I mean, it's made like the cinema of David Lean, right, that really knew how to do like widescreen filmmaking and treated it as an epic with like an overture and an own fact and all of those components that made you feel like, Wow, I'm going to see something big and special and I expect to have my mind blown by what I'm going to see. Right where I'm going to be taking another place and you know, in no way disparage you know, start two, three, and four. Right, they feel more like TV compared to like the great Golden Age of you know, uh, CinemaScope from like the fifties. Right, That's what the motion picture feels like. And that's because of the legacy of you know, the great epics that Robert Wise is involved in. So he's really a remarkable guy.

1:29:51 And what a wonderful thing to have, you know, one of the great voices of old Hollywood usher in you know, the era of Star Trek motion pictures so real, you know, touch a genius. Yeah, awesome, Thanks Paul, And I think David brought up another great person that we probably should honor, even though he doesn't specifically connect to Star Trek. Just this past week, we lost actor James Earl Jones at the age of ninety three years old. And you know, I think pretty much every American that has ever seen a movie knows who James Earl Jones is, but we we probably honor him as the voice of Darth Vader, for which you will remember he was originally uncredited in episode four. His name did not appear in the credits for that movie.

1:30:43 But man, what a voice, what a presence, what a you know actor, I mean, his his bravitas on the screen I think is something very special. And it's kind of cool that we've got I believe, isn't he one of the people that we've got kind of like AI voice of him or something, a voice of him? Yeah, so you know, we may get to hear a little bit more from James Earl Jones postumulously we'll have to see I'm not really yeah, but we also lost him this week at ninety three years old. So that you all, thank you so much Charles bringing up Robert Wise, James Earl Jones included. That does it for our remembrances on So I'm going to pass this slaming birthday candle over to Charles.

1:31:35 Okay, thank you, Eric. Let's start out with a Happy birthday to Lauren Loptis, the actress who voiced Jennifer Sann in Star for Glower Decks. I think Jennifer back. We haven't seen much of her last season. I think we need more of her coming back. Happy Birthday that Day, actress who played Vulcan Captain Fankick in Star Trek Enterprises pre season episode Breaking the Ice. Corbyn Bernson, actress who played Q two in Star Trek's Next Generation third season episode deja Q. I want to get an interesting pair together, Get Corbin and Corbyn and Delancey together. I've seen them on a panel on stage. Those two are a rot.

1:32:31 Happy birthday, Dylan, Dylan von Hayley Child, actress who played young John Luke Picard in the second season of Star Trek Picard. Happy Birthday Tara the Code Demo, the actors who played Admiral Patar and Star Trek Discovery second season episode at Emory Serves and Project Data Lists. Happy Birthday to Harry tread Treadaway, English actors who played Nerek first season of Star Trek for card Happy birthday to Julia Nicholson, actors who played LeAnn Hazoo in Star Trek's Next Generation first season episode The Arsenal of Freedom and the Cardassian in the Star Tek d States nine second season episode Paradise, and the last one on my list. A Happy birthday to Paul As Tompkins, American actor, comedian writer who voice Doctor Manvego in Star Trek Lower Decks. If we're looking forward, it's in more than doctor and seeing what kind of psychological things he might be trying to talk about. Paul, who's on your list?

1:33:54 Thanks, Charles, appreciate it well, I tell you, it's just always interesting to see who's born. Man. All right, it's a while, but all kinds of folks that are I love to be able to just you know, celebrate when we do these. It's just so much fun every time we go through with the names. Right, But first of all, Keon J. Young is having a birthday or had a birthday actually a couple of weeks ago. Hawaiian born actor typed the role of Buck Bocai in the Deep Space nine first season episode of Wishes Were Horses, and then went on later to appear as mister Sato in the enterprise second season episode Vanishing Point. Got a gush momentarily for our next birthday person. Uh do I love this guy, the great Idris Elba okay, who we're acknowledging for his work in Star Trek Beyond, where he played the villainous crawl right under a ton on prosthetic makeup.

1:34:57 But man, Idris Elba is just the bomb. That guy is incredible. So many good things that he's done. I mean a lot of times people go, oh, yeah, he was the guy's stuck at Pentecost in Pacific rim right or you know Handahl in Thor But man, check out this guy's earlier work, especially his TV work, right. If I know there's a fair number of Britt TV fans on the show here because of Doctor who love. Have either of you guys watched Luthor ever? Yes, I have seen Luthah. I just think that's one of the greatest detective shows ever.

1:35:40 And he's just such a badass, and he's just the guy who's just unstoppable and has his own code and he's just one of the great British detective shows of all time, right, I mean just incredible. And then you know, just check the guy's range, right watching play the other side of the Law and Order offence right where he played the the stringer bell on the Wire And if you've never watched The Wire like predates Sopranos on HBO, well of the greatest TV shows of all time, and. He is the main big bad of that series. It's just amazing performance. So the dude is just phenomenal. I mean people have been, you know, putting his name up for a long.

1:36:21 Long time as being somebody who would just be a phenomenal inheritor of the mantle of James Bond. Right, And I don't know if the world has got to shit together enough you have to be able to do a common sense move like that, right, But because you know, we still seem to have so many issues that we can't get pass. But man, I would love to see him do something like that because the dude is just so talented, so so great. So happy birthday, Idris Elba. Man, I want to see him just Patrick, without all the makeup and well he's not trapped underneath the prosthesis. That would be pretty fucking. Amazing in my view. Another ledgen and right on the heels of is the dominal brain exploding. Jeffrey Cobs. Okay, is there anybody that doesn't love Jeffrey Combs. I first saw this cat in a horror movie called Reanimator, and Jim, you know Reanimator right?

1:37:17 Absolutely? Who doesn't. It was my first rated R movie. So great, man, Wow, that was your first trip to the movies. It explains a lot, dude, No, I didn't. You have to understand. I didn't have access to VHS, so I had to go over to my friend's house to watch rated R movies. So, oh, man, this is a big thing. I'm sorry I didn't know your education. That's great and so many I mean, you could do a whole show.

1:37:58 And this guy, he's so phenomenal, right, one of the most unhinged things I've ever seen. Him do was he played a character in Peter Jackson's The Frighteners. I don't know if it's a pretty fun ghost story picture, but he's just out of his mind. That's great. But because he has played at least nine different characters across four different parts of the Star Trek franchise right, most notably the ones that we're thinking about him that we're just gush. The hardest is for all the different wayuns and start keep space nine right. I think that this seems like there's at least one way in Congress right now, as near as I can tell. So I feel like I'm recognizing wayun frequently when I'm watching the news coverage. But I could be right.

1:38:54 I haven't I seen you before somewhere? Yeah, it seems like you've reared your head before or and uh and then of course uh and on Enterprise. From my money, one of the greatest characters on all Star Trek, I think Sean's just amazing. I would watch the Sewan series. Oh, that would have been awesome back in the day if they had run that in parallel with Star Trek Enterprise and had like a series. Because what we still don't get is in the enterprise. We get a couple of episodes where they're on and Doria, but we still never get a solid look at the planet. And like, I could imagine a whole thing where he's like coming up in the military ranks of Andorria right and on the planet and yeah that and.

1:39:47 They could further explore the culture and everything. Ye, but it's just you know, he's uh And of course we didn't mention it, but he's you know, there's the voice of Agamus on lower decks as well. We better not forget that because you know, he's all over the place. He is all over the place. And this dude just works like crazy. He's just constantly working. I just don't think he's capable of being boring. I just don't. He's just so unhinged and talented and expressive. He's just a great performer. So we celebrate you, Jeffrey Colmes. If in some weird twist of the universe, you're listening to the show or your agent is listening, God, we'd love to have you as a guest on the show. We would treat you like a king. Okay, dude, I'm telling you, this guy on the show, he's just the best. He's just a living legend. It's a happy birthday. Moving on, Happy Birthday. Ali Hassan, actor comedian, played Commando Hanson auslat On Strange the World's first season episode of Quality of Mercy.

1:40:47 Very cool part Happy birthday to Harry Greiner, a German born American actor who played Tim Elbron in third season Next Gen episode ten Man, which I think a lot of folks know. He also played a Nikkannie magistrate in The Voyager third season episode Sacred Ground, minister Nathan Samuels in The Enterprise fourth season episodes Demons and Tara Prime. So it's cool when you find actors who are like, I can do science fiction, and then they just start showing up all over the place. The nice thing that happens when you have an aggressive agent, get you booked, get him back. You know, it's like when you're in he's probably easy to work with, right, So that's usually how you get rehired. Read Bernie is having a birthday and having that birthday just yesterday. Read Bernie and Mac who played Luck in the Star Trek Exchange in World second season episode Among the Locus Eaters. It's a very recent episode and Finally, I'd like to say, right be happy birthday to Susan Gibney, American actress born in Manhattan Beach, California, who played Oh now, Jordie, calm down, Jeordie, just really try to just sit down, Jeordie.

1:41:59 It's okay, you're gonna. Be Come on, she's smart and she's got great hair. Come on, I know she is. Jordie's really just like he's like pressing his face against the class there right now. Because Susan Gibney played Leah Brahms Okay on Next Gen's third and fourth season episode The Booby Trap. I'm sure there's a fun in there, but I'm not going to stoop that low and Galaxy's child, and then very coolly reprise her role as Leah Bram's voicing sort of an illusionary replica of Leah Brahms's character on Lower Decks third season episode Mining the Mind's Minds, and also appeared as Beneen in Deep Space nine fourth season episodes home Front and Paradise Lost. So clearly, Susan give Me is still working away and very much invested in continuing to keep her legacy going in Star Trek, So come on, the show, Susan giveney, we'd love to have you and we can have a special Leah Brahms episode. That would be cool.

1:42:57 So why not, Okay, last trip getting all built? I don't know, you know, it's always going to have somebod who knows how the parts work. Right. There you go, and that's no booby trap. So let's go ahead and pass the flaming birthday candle of quantum torpedoes over to Uncle Jim. Why, thank you, thank you, thank you so much. Paul. Well, usually I don't have a lot, but. I've got a bunch of Klingons and I always love me some good Klingon. So we're gonna start off by saying couplah to Robin Atkins down. He's an English actor and prolific voice actor who played Commander.

1:43:39 Tog and the old Quingon officer in Star Trek Lower Deck see episode We Douge. And if you guys don't know this, the character of Tog is the same Klingon character that Wharf rescues from in that episode of TNG. Was that right? Yeah? Rightful air? No, not rightful air? What was that episode where he goes to the planet and all the Klingons are living with the Romulans and was it rightful? And no, it wasn't rightful. Oh oh yeah, yeah, I had something to do with family loom or something like that.

1:44:21 It was a two part episode. And this is the same Klingon teenager that Wharf teaches the ways of the Klingon too, teaches him how to sing cling On songs and how to be kling On. This is the same character. So I thought it was really cool that they lifted a character from TNG and show him sometime later as an actual Klingon warrior with honor and respect who saves the day. So happy birthday and called plaw till Robert Atkins downs. They also want to say law to Charles Eston. He's the actors singer who played Devach in Star Trek the Next Generation six season episode Rightful Air and the Daithon Alaris and Star Trek Voyagers third season episode. Remember, we also want to say a huge happy birthday and kaplat to Joel Jay Kramer. He is a stuntman and stunt coordinator and director who played the Klingon navigator in Star Trek the Motion Picture. Speaking of Star Trek the Motion Picture, there's an actor from the movie, So happy birthday and this next one, well, what can you say she gets more than a kaplaw We want to say Happy birthday to rock sand Dawson. She's the actress best known for portraying Lieutenant Blana Taurus on Star Trek Voyager.

1:45:54 She was initially credited on the show as rock sand Biggs Dawson. She also directed to pisodes The Star Trek Voyager and ten episodes of Star Trek Enterprise. And of course Belona Taurus married Tom Parris, so we have that whole chapter going on as well. So happy birthday and kapla to Roxane Dawson. We also want to say called Law to Andrew Jackson. He's the actor who played Captain de Jock in Star Trek Strange New World's second season episode The Broken Circle. And in case you guys don't remember, he's the klingon that war or that a Spock is drinking the blood wine with in the beginning of the episode and he out drinks the Klingon. This is that guy.

1:46:44 And last, but definitely not least on my list is a really good one, a great one, fun episode, fun character. We want to say Cauplata Mary Kay Adams. She played grill Go in Star Trek Deep Space nine third and fifth season episode The House of Cork, which was a riot and of course looking for Parmak in all the wrong places. Another really really great quing on episode of Deep Space nine and that my friends wraps up all of our Star Trek birthdays this week. And I guess Eric isn't having some technical difficulties. I guess, So, Paul, would you like to take Eric's story here?

1:47:30 If I'm out Stasio, but it is. It is definitely a worthy story that we don't want to miss here, so Ya try to do your solid help you out, okay, and I hope I do your justice, buddy. But we are talking about upcoming filming as we speak right now, Starfleet Academy and five things you need to know about the new upcoming Star Trek show. Because the Star Trek universe continues to expand, and even as one show ends, another in production orbody's the beginning. Star Trek Discovery is the most recent show to come to close after five seasons, and one of the upcoming products is getting some attention, a lot of attention is Starfleet Academy long aided show the schedule for release in twenty twenty six, so it seems farther alof but you know, I'll tell you it'll be here before we know it. So that's where things go.

1:48:20 Fact number one. Not only will the show explore the usual trials and challenges that come with being accepted into an attendez famous officer's training ground, but life in the Star Trek universe presents other serious issues. The plot includes a shadowy new foe that threatens life in the galaxy, and the new cadets have to be prepared for it. Fact number two. The Academy was closed for some time until it was reopened by Captain Michael Burnham in season four Discovery, paving the way for Star Trek Starfleet Academy. Two. Other familiar characters will be helping students and cadets as they navigate their way through academy life. Sylvia Tility of Discovery and the Doctor from Voyager. Tilly is one of the instructors of the Academy and will be appearing as a guest instead of a regular member of the cast or a recurring character. M Interesting Robert Riccardo will be reprising his role as a holographic emergency medical program from the USS Voyager, but whether he'll be an instructor, mentor, or another role is yet unknown. Fact number three. Work on the first ten episodes of the series is currently ongoing and is expected to be completed the next year, making its production concurrence with Section thirty one, which is not a series but a standalone movie. This is the same location where Discovery was also filmed, and fans can find it to rod that want to Pinewood Severe's group.

1:49:42 Fact number four. It seems to practical effects are coming back to some extent, and the set designs of Starcy Academy reflects some ambitious real world models and sense instead of a CGI generated amager, a painted on a sound stage. Production designer Matthew Davies has created the biggest set ever created for a Star Trek show. It's also the biggest soundstage ever built in Canada, at two stories high and forty five thousand square feet, featuring an including mess hall, several classrooms and amphitheater, a few catwalks and stairways, and a scenic view that includes the Golden gate Bridge. Oh wow, so we're still back on San Francisco There we Go and Fact number five. San Diego Comic Con is one of the biggest annual events of the movie in Telesvision industries, taking place in July. Yay I Love Comic Con. The Star Trek Universe Discussion panel used the time at the con to announce the return of several legacy characters, and the names included more than Mary Wiseman, Is Tilly and Ravit Pricardo. Other names from Discovery that will be appearing in Starkfleet Academy include Tig Nataro will be returning as Jet Reno, and o'deed Fair will be reprising his role as Sleep Admiral Charles Vay. But wait, this headline promised you five facts you needed to know. That's right, five things you needed to know. My friends, put down your sorry and Brandy, because I'm sitting here and here to

1:51:12 tell you that, yes, there is a bonus fact you need to know. Bonus Facts number six Engage also inspired by the events and characters of Discovery. The concept of section thirty one has been around for some time in modern check but Starfleet's coverts By network has never had its own show. The popularity of Teliver Georgia, the original Captain of the US's discovery prompted a spin off based on her Mirror Universe counterpart coming to Our Universe and joining Section thirty one. Details about production and casting have been more secretive than other projects, which hilariously reflects the nature of the series itself. But this show is even closer to completion. The release dates for Section thirty one, which is not a series of a standalone movie, is not are justice vague but state twenty twenty five. I'm not sure who wrote this, Bluru, but I think they.

1:52:08 Some bad english Man. Yeah, yeah, I think it's the copy paste function of the protocre doesn't seem to be working today, So what's going on? And yeah, we've known that's a single standalone movie, not a series, since before it was even greenlit. I'm pretty sure. So I don't know fact number six. That's all I got, but it seems to me from what I'm seeing. Next is the man who was shouldering his way up to the podium, ready to speak, ready to take us into the future, is none out of them? Charles himself, Charles, would you care to read the next story? My friend?

1:52:48 Oh? Definitely. I think I'm the only one that's probably caught up with this one. Star Trek and Doctor Who united for Intergalactic Friendship Day. East Side Group is announced, an unpred presidented crossover between Star Trek and Doctor Who. The two belives so the University collide in a news story specifically made for International Friendship Day. The worlds of Star Trek and Doctor Who will intertwine bring fans a story that spawn across galaxies and time in the two mobile games Star Trek Lower Decks and Doctor Who Lost in Time.

1:53:31 We are beyond excited to bring together these iconic franchises for a crossover event that fans have only dreamed about, said Kevin George, head of Games at BBC. Collaboration offers a unique opportunity to explore a brand news storyline with a Doctor and Star Trek characters can work together. Players will experience a story in a mysterious time space ripple that rows Doctor Who aboard Star Truk, Lower Decks US Thritos Well Captain, while Lieutenant Brad Boimler and then some decade Mariner find themselves thrust in them agmatic Doctor universe, with the ripple streppening the very fabric of reality. The Doctor And has joined forces with the Resourcefulness Crew of the Three Dos, while Bread and Beckett team up with Agendary River Song. Together, they race against time to repair the ripple and set things right. Fans can dowload The Doctor Who Lost in Time and Star Truk four decks mobile games, and prepare for the Ultimate Side Crossover, the Event of the Summer. I know these are iOS games.

1:54:51 I am pretty sure they're probably also Android, both of them, both on my phone on my phone. I haven't done the crossover yet. Yeah, I haven't played him yet. Wow, Dad, I thought for sure, Well. Jim's gonna have to just go to his phone and download him on his phone and playing Money's Break at work. Well I could do that. I could do that, but I got so much stuff to work on with the podcast break at work. You know. I got to do these things when I have time on my coffee break.

1:55:33 Only when I'm at work, by the way, or maybe at lunch. So guys, you know what time it is? Another guy? Yeah, I just can't believe a quick time just just evaporates when we get talking about Star Trek. It's incredible, just amazing. So uh yeah, before we go, I just want to take an opportunity to say that, you know, it wasn't for James Earl Jones, and it's incredible portrayal in Star Wars which pulled me in. I probably wouldn't be a tricky right now because Star Wars got me into the whole sci fi thing, and then of course I discovered Star Trek and here we are, so James Earl Jones is definitely going to be missed. So I want to take an opportunity here to say thank you, thank you so much to our very own Charles for hanging out and Shrek talking with us tonight. Thank you so much, Charles, Well, thank you very much.

1:56:35 I enjoyed it. It was It was fun, quick but fun. And I want to say thank you so much to David for hanging out in Trek talking with us, even though he didn't bring the donuts or the troubles, but they did kind of make an appearance at the beginning of the show when the Gremlins were polling around my board. Thank you so much, David, Dude, do do do. It wasn't me, by the way, but we had fun. Thank you, No, it was. And of course I want to thank you so much to Paul for hanging out and Trek talking with us and it's awesome Fridays. Thank you so much. Paul, always a blast man. It was really really fun. So we'll see what we got a double dose next week. Can't wait to see what they serve up.

1:57:17 Yeah, it's gonna be fun. It always is and definitely last but not least, I want to say thank you so much to Eric for hanging out and trek talking with us tonight. Thank you Eric. Jim. I still can't figure out why this podcast is only eleven minutes long. It has to be eleven minutes because I have so much more to say. Flies right, doesn't it? Perhaps we we we do need to get all polls, pol poles, pull. Slog we do you know what I'm I'm I'm starting to write that right now, and I feel like the lyrics are all figured out. I got it and them together.

1:58:01 And you know, we never did our all singing episode either, so we gotta we gotta do a singing episode. You know what, Jim, You know that I am game, so you make it happen and I will be there. With the sound of triples. But why are we saying? All right? Guys? Well, I mean excellent hosts. Uncle Jo saying everybody, please remember Star Trek fans are the best fans. You better remember that. Please be good to each other and stay stay Hailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, long and prosper else then see watched on that.

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