Aug. 21, 2026

Episode 695- SNW "A Case of Chiaroscuro" discussion

Episode 695- SNW "A Case of Chiaroscuro" discussion
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In this episode of Trek Talkin, Uncle Jim and the Trexperts discuss the latest happenings in the Star Trek universe, including fan shout-outs, episode recaps, and a special guest announcement. The conversation flows from technical difficulties to personal updates, leading into a detailed discussion about the latest episode of Strange New Worlds, along with fan reactions and a poll about the show's direction. In this episode review, the hosts delve into the complexities of the latest Star Trek episode, discussing the origins of Klingons, Una's challenges, and the crew's dynamics. They explore the resistance's plans, audience reactions, and character development, while also critiquing the writing and execution of the story. The conversation highlights fan feedback and ratings, providing a comprehensive analysis of the episode's themes and storytelling techniques. In this episode, the hosts discuss various aspects of Star Trek, including fan ratings, cultural references, and the core messages of acceptance and diversity that the franchise embodies. They critique modern iterations of Star Trek while emphasizing the importance of good writing and humor in discussions about the series. The episode concludes with a celebration of notable birthdays within the Star Trek universe, honoring the contributions of various actors and creators. In this episode, the hosts celebrate the birthdays of various Star Trek legends, discuss Uncle Jim's movie pick of the week, and dive into the latest Star Trek news, including movie re-releases and new Magic the Gathering cards featuring Klingon text. The conversation is filled with nostalgia, humor, and insights into the impact of Star Trek on pop culture.
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was working perfectly when we tested it before the show.

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issue is. Can can I think I need a second chance.

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That's what I think. Okay, uh yeah, you know why.

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Because I'm positive that because I am only a junior engineer,

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this was the issue. And let's do this again.

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Yankee, talk about this series.

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You can series well, good evening, Checkies and trekkers around

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the globe. It is Thursday, August twentyth twenty twenty six.

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Welcome to episode six hundred and ninety five of Track Talking.

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I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, and our miracle

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worker is not here with us tonight. David is at

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a wedding. So Lieutenant Ortegas is going to step up

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and take care of the engineering duties for us tonight,

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so please bear that in mind with us. Just go

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around the room and introduce my awesome treks. First, we'll

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start off in Virginia with the how you doing tonight?

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V All right, glad to be here. You know, it's

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part to believe it's on the September day.

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Yes, right around the corner.

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I need cooler weather otherwise I'm just going to be a.

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Melted puddle of whatever.

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So all right, and we're going to swing out to

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Las Vegas and we're gonna see how Charles is doing tonight.

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I agree with thee I'm ready for fall to get here.

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Second heat warning for the months, and I'm looking forward

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to maybe getting back to one hundred and five or

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so next week.

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Excellent, you can have it all. And we're going to

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swing out to Portland and we're gonna say hello to

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the toy guy himself, Paul. How are you doing tonight, Paul,

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Welcome to the show. Oh man, I'm doing good. Good

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to be here.

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I spent the last three days up in the Hood

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wilderness in a bunk house environment, which is like sleeping

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on a board and being given chow line cuisine to

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be back in comparative civilization, Well, let me tell you,

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I mean fun times. Don't get me wrong, but man,

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I am definitely more of an urbanite than a rural.

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Denizen, I would say.

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So that's grateful for air conditioning and four K television.

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And you had a nice picture with a horse.

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I am very fond of my equine friends and made

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friends with a couple of there, which was great. And

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I flew across the river hanging from a.

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Zip line conveyance, which was cool. Don't let any get yet.

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Did you get a chance to watch Star Trek up

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there in the sticks?

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Well, I watched Tretoric before I went. Yeah, I watched

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last Thursday for the episode we'll talk about tonight. I

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haven't watched tonight's new episode yet that I'm trying to

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retain in my the I can get smart the cone

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of silence regarding tonight's episode, right, remember the cone of silent?

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What did you say, Max Jeef? I said, I don't

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understand you. Yeah, so it's kind of like that.

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So you know, there will be plenty of time for

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that next week, and we'll see what kind of reaction

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I guess, but it'll be interesting to talk about both

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those episodes. So I'm just I just I look forward

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to Thursday nights and getting together here in the in

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the conveyance.

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It's great. It's it's Friday's eve. I taught you that, Jim.

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I taught you that.

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You added an unnecessary apostrophe and pluralized it it's Friday.

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But that's how I do.

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I am the source of this expression. Let's not forget

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also from we have all hey working for tonight.

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Eric? How you doing tonight? Eric?

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You know what I'm doing good. I'm glad that we

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got the jitters out right there at the beginning. We

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kind of sort of shook off the rust. We knew

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there had to be one good mistake and it was

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right at the beginning. So here we go. We're ready

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to go.

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Okay, the panel is all fired up and ready to go.

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We know. Okay. So if you guys missed any of

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our shows, you can go to trek Talking dot com

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and check them all out. They're all there, so please

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do that, and you can visit us at our trek

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great stuff there as well. Some polls and questions and things,

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so we'd like to hear from you guys a lot,

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so visit our Facebook page. Tonight we're going to talk

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about the Strange New World season four episode for a

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case for Chai Ruscuroi screw some black and white thing.

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We're gonna talk about that tonight, and as well, we're

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also gonna have our fans shout outs, and that's where

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we go around the globally fans thank fans just like

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you right there for listening to our podcast. We're also

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gonna have our Cadet review with Charles and fan reactions

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and episode episode scores for this episode from you guys

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to fans on our Facebook page. You can also find

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out what actor you share a birthday with on our

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Sci five Birthdays And of course Uncle Jim's Movie pick

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of the Week. That's where I'll pick an in a

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movie that's celebrating an anniversary this week and reminds you

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to go and see it if you haven't seen or

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maybe it's an old one that you've never seen before.

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And last, but not least, what's going on around the

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Star Trek universe. And of course we have a Shatner

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says what and all kinds of other fun so that

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oh yes, and Brian Volkwise, we'll be joining us. I

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want to get that in there on September seventeenth. And Paul,

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you want to tell us who he is and why

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we're having him on the show, I'd be happy to.

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Brian Volgweiss is actually an alien sent here to take

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over our entire planet from the interstellar colony of toy Landia. Yeah,

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he's absolutely intent on taking over all of our minds

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and wallets by infesting our attention spans with toys and

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nothing but toys. And he's an insidious interloper on our

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planetary realm, so be careful. He's actually the CEO and

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Wonderkin mastermind behind Nacelle Toys who is managed to do

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the impossible.

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He, in addition to his many, many.

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Other endeavors, a hand in things like the show, The

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Toy That Made Us and everything.

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He has resurrected the whole new.

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Six inch line of Star Trek figures, giving Star Trek

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Figures a whole new life in our world again. And

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I mean we thought that no one was going to

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be able to pull it off after the last two

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or three companies. It made rather lackluster attempts. But you

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can go back a few weeks ago we did a

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pretty in depth episode I'm sure you can find on

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the website where we did a review of some of

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the earlier figures.

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This amazing. They're really really good. And he's got a

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lot of.

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Other things in the opera too, And for him to

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be able to make time but join us on here

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is so exciting because there's a lot of cool things coming,

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including a six inch scale like original series lights and sounds,

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Enterprise Bridge. I mean imagine that if you will, that's

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scaled for six inch figures. So the chance to pick

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this guy's brain. And he's just a super nerd, nice guy,

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decent dude. He just went on Socials this week and

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defended a fellow toy impresario.

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From the whole debacle about Star Wars and has Bro

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that's been going on.

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It's just he stood up in made it a great

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statement when it needed to be made.

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So a big fan of this guy.

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I'm getting a chance to talk to him in person

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is going to be Yeah, there's no way we'll fill

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up the entire amount of time he's willing to spend

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this so a heck of a good dude. But yeah,

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I'm really really I'm very impressed with his creativity and

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tenacity and business selling toys in this climate economically, and

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he knows how to pull it up. He's a I

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would never underestimate this guy after what he's done. So

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really excited that you were able to land him.

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Jim. Well, I've been been trying to get him for

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a while and it's finally come through Fruition, So.

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It's gonna be fun as hell. So yeah, he's a

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smart guy.

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I'm looking forward to it, and so On our Facebook page,

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if you go to Truck Talking and Beyond at the

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top of the page, you see to Live Long and

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Prosper in there, and all you need to do is

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click on there and tell us where you're listening from.

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Please leave lots of emojis. That gets my attention. If

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you see a heart next to your name from yours truly,

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uncle Jim, that means you are going to be featured

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and a future fan shout out. So what do you say, Eric,

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We ready to start some fan shout outs.

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Absolutely allowed us to do it. Our very first fan

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shout out this week goes out to Kevin Larson, who

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is from the what he says, the Republic of Alberta.

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And if you don't understand the underlying political statements below

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that I suggest you go do your research. But they

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offer us an amazing setting sun, a couple other little emojis,

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a little cowboy thing going on. Very apropos Kevin, Thank

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you very much for checking in with us from the

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Republic of Alberta. Thanks as well to Demir Vukatek from

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Croatia in Europe. We love hearing from everywhere in Europe,

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especially places that we don't hear from very often, so

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Croati is a great place for us to have heard

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from this week. Thanks Tamir, I really appreciate it. Love

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to say say hello this week to Rachel Carr as well.

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And Rachel is a top fan of ours. That means

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that she interacts with us a lot on our Facebook page,

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liking our posts, perhaps offering comments and such, and of

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course checking in as a fan. And she hails from Dublin, Ireland,

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sending us that beautiful green, white and orange Irish flag.

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Thanks Rachel for saying hey. And last but not least,

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on my list, I'm going to say hello, this week

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to David Vib. David Vib from Belgium. I have not

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been to Belgium, but it's kind of one of those

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places that has its own little thing going on, and

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I would love to visit there. Thank you for sending

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us your greetings as well as that beautiful flag. Thanks

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David v What do you say we bring it back

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to the good old us of a fan?

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Thank you, Eric. So my first Hello goes out to

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Debbie Walt from Lancaster, Ohio. I know in Penful Van. Yeah,

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that same city is called pronounced Lancaster, so either way, Lancaster, Ohio, USA.

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Next Tom Veach, who is shouting out to us from

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the west coast of Iowa. Next Nicki Andres, who is

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saying hello to us from Galveston, Texas. And last but

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not least, Susan Ray sing hello from Wyoming. All right,

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onto you, Charles.

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Thank you.

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Let's just do a quick fix there, Okay. Let me

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start off with a warm welcome to Rachel Ashword from Spokane, Washington.

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Hi.

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Rachel, heading up a little bit towards your neighborhood, but

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heading a little more west and towards the Seattle area.

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Soon, Welcome Rick.

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Cahuna Nesbit from Louisiana.

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And I we're welcome to.

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You're Maya Hart from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Hopefull you got to

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do some good two hundred and fifty celebrating there, Paul

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who's on your list.

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Thank you, Charles.

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Well, we have all kinds of folks from across the

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globe that are saying how to us this week. First

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of all, we're going to say hello to Chris Quinn,

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who's sounding off from Norway. Chris says, I'm from Norway,

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above the Arctic Circle. So go polar Bears, says Chris,

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wich is be fantastic. So I love knowing that that

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far north that we still have folks loving star trek

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and probably not too far from the locations of the

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planet hath would be my guess. So very cool, Chris,

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out there about one hundred and eighty degrees climate wise.

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saying hello from Campiga City in South Paulo, Brazil, where

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it's a little bit toastier in Alexandro's neck of the

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woods than it is up in Norway, but just goes

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to show that we have fans everywhere and lovers of

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very in my thoughts these days. Great Britain is a

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wonderful place. And we're saying hello to Kieran Harland, who

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is saying howdy to us from Newcastle on Tyne in

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the United Kingdom. Great to know that you're out there,

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Kieran and jumping continents heading is about as far south

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as you can go and not run into Emperor penguins.

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It's Judy Olif from South Australia who's got two fisted

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Judy, Great to know that you're out there in South Australia,

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land of some of the fiercest and most disturbing wildlife

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on the planet. I don't know how you cope with that.

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in Australia. I'm like, I don't know, friend, it's a

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lot of non who lives in Australia. I've hast approved

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their bravery. I think this must be the calling card

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of the continent there. But great to know that we

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have all these friends everywhere, a wonderful selection of fans

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from just about every continent you can name, and I

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will pass it over to uncle Jim Well.

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I thank you so much, Paul. I would like to

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start off by saying hello and thank you to Francis Emerson,

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who is listening to us right now, and water Waterloo,

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New York in the Fingers Lakes region. And it goes

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on to say, I may not have watched from the

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very beginning, but I was a fan even when we

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couldn't watch it. I watch it now. And of course

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France is just talking about Star Wars. I'm sorry about

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Star Trek. My bad. Nice to have you in the family, Francis.

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brown Holt from Massachusetts, and Steven Arroyo from New York City,

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who flashes us to live long and prosper. Thank you, Steven.

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to say hello and thank you to Shane Edward Rogers,

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who's listening to us right now in Paris, Tennessee. I

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wasn't aware that there was a Paris, Tennessee. But the

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show is not just fun, but it's educational as well.

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Truck Talking and Beyond look for to Live Long and Prosper.

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Tell us where you're from, and if you're a subscriber

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some wonderful pictures that we're just flashing by. You can

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send us your pictures and David will get them right

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up there so the whole world can see you in

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your wonderful cosplay. Okay, So on our Facebook page, I

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like to ask you guys pulling question I did this week,

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You know me like no win what you thought about

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the showmen.

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Your opinions with all of our minions out there because

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they listen worldwide. So tell us just what you think.

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Get together we will all t Canara and robulin.

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Al that never ever ever gets old. Oh my god,

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Gets me every time.

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I don't know why.

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it's perfect. It is, it's perfect. Okay, So Eric, what

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have to say, Well, this.

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Is a great question for this time in the season.

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We asked, as we approached the halfway point of Strange

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New World Season four, do you think it's too gimmicky

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false face it's great? Sixty six percent. I'm going to

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say probably sixty six point six percent, so we might

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even run said yes, get back to Star Trek, and

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thirty four percent or as I suspect, actually probably thirty

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three point three percent said no, it's refreshing. So we've

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got about a two thirds in sort of against the

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new format versus one third all for the what I

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that we have going right now. So there you go.

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That's what the overall polls say on that one.

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Jim, Yes, and I actually have some comments from some

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of our fans.

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Yeah, I like, I think some of these are interesting.

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So Richard Hooper said, Wow, season four is the best yet,

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not just another typical exploring snoozefest, but full of unique

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episodes which were the best of seasons one through three,

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like Enterprise, Bingos, Subspace Rhapsody, and the Lower Decks Crossover.

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Thanks for Richard, Brian O'Neill said, wait, now you're asking

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if Strange New Worlds is getting gimmicky, and then a

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laughing emoji. So I think the implication of that being

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Brian has considered it gimmicky from the start, or perhaps

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in recent history. I'm putting words in your mouth. Brian,

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provide more detail next time. Thank you. Elaine Lake said,

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is Star Trek getting gimmicky? Question mark? And then she

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says she listened episodes a piece of the action elementary,

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the big Goodbye, Trials and tribulations at all, would like

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a word not wrong? Elaine tom Finn said, so far

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the episodes are excellent and entertaining. The wit and character

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development is along the lines Doctor Who. Best Trek series

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I have seen, and I grew up with the original.

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So there you go.

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So I got to leave that comment to you and

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Charles because I'm not sure comparing that to Doctor Who,

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is that good or bad?

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The only daughter who I know is a few episodes

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that we watched which carry out Yeah, that's all I know.

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was our poll question for the week. You guys can

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head over to Trek Talk and Beyond and take place

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in this week's poll, and I'll give you a hint.

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a yes or no? Did you watch the Muppets growing up?

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Yes or no? Very simple, so head over there and

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tell us if you grow up watching them up or

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if you didn't. All right, so now it's time for

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some cadet training with Charles. And we don't have a

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catchy theme song yet, but maybe we will in a

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not too distant future. So Charles take it away.

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Okay, thanks Jim. And as we always try saying in

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this one, what I'm doing is I'm looking for Easter

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eggs and stuff that I can tie this episode into

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previous episodes. A good example of this episode reminds me

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a bit of Strange New World under the Cloak of

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War from season two. I know so that that was

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a popular episode between most of the hosts here. Voyager

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Bride of Chaotica from season five isn't actually is Most

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of that actually was a black and white episode TOS

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got some and gangsters going on tos Aarona Mercy from

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TOS Mirror Mirror season two as when a hero's getting

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tortured kind of reminded me of the Agony Booth from

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the Mirror universe. And of course we cannot forget TNG's

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chain of command from season six where we got to

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see a secret mission and Bricard getting tortured with are

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there four lights for five? And that's all I came

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up is really for this week, but I know Paul

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will try to recap this episode.

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Thank you, Charles.

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This is the part of the show and we try

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to basically frame what we're about to talk about when

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we do our reviews of the episode from last week.

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And so in this case, this is season four, episode four,

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a case of Kia ruskuiro. Okay and friends pronounce it

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with me. It's really not that hard kia ruskuiro? Right

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this hell yeah, when you see the cch in Italian,

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it's going to be a case sound all the time, right,

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is an Italian word translates into light dark Kiato meanings

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bright or light or clear, and scuro means dark or obscure.

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Obscuro.

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between light and dark. Right, So kiaruskiro is from the

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light and the dark. Artists use it to make flat

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objects look three dimensional and to add some deep drama.

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So we like to like, as Uncle Jim says, educate, right,

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and I just can't. The idea of hearing that word

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mispronounced for the next hour and a half makes my

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head explode. So there you have it again. Fourth episode

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of the season, in which an away team led by

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Commander Unachin Riley and its klingon occupied space to recover

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a lost Federation probe and due to the system's unique

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star radiation. The episode is styled entirely as a black

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and white noir thriller, to some degree or another, inspired

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by the classic film Casa Blanca. So let's sort of

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go through this and see what we've got here. The

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initial mission of the Enterprise is a covert recovery right

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to retrieve this derelict Federation spy probe essentially is what

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it is, right, Angelo one is the name of the probe.

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It apparently suffered a malfunction and shut down, and because

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it went offline, it ended up drifting across the demarcation

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line directly into Klingon territory near the Matar system. Matar system,

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excuse me. So the Enterprise's mission is to go recover

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that pro if the Klingon Empire, and we haven't seen

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a ton of Klingons on Strange New World, so it's

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always cool to see how this kind of prequel mindset,

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how are the Klingons depicted, And if the Klingons discovered

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this technology before it's retrieved, it could lead to an

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intelligence leak that could destabilize the very fragile piece between

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the two civilizations and reignite all our war. Because the

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Enterprise itself is really large, it posed a grill risk

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of detection and enemy space. Pike gives the mission to

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Commander Una chin Riley and says, take a low profile

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shuttle mission to sneak down there and beam up the

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probe if possible. Now, this is UNA's first command of

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an away team mission since she got her promotion very recently.

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But things go south pretty quickly. When a Klingon D

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seven battle cruiser enters the system. I could almost sense

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Uncle Jim sitting bolt up right when that D seven

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throwed up and it forces the Enterprise to pull back

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with the retrieved probe, and it kind of leaves Una

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in her shuttle crew stranded on planet mat To R twelve.

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And so again, as we kind of intimated, we hear

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that the radiation from the star system of Mattur and

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strips away color perception, kind of turning the environment and

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the episode into a classic high contrast gray scale film noir,

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not that different from what we saw of the Harkonen

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home world in the Dune two, kind of depicted in

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that black and white kind of motif, right, So they're

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forced to hide out on this planet. The team gets

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pulled into a local underground movement against the occupying force,

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which is the Klingons. So let's talk about some of

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the plot highlights real quickly, and then we'll move into

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hearing what some of our fans thought about this episode.

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Very First of all, what stands out as Una is

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mistaken for a local human like resistance leader named a

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Vet who apparently looks and sounds identical to her. Right,

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Doctor Mabenga admits that the likelihood of this scenario is slim,

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as he puts it, but also notes kind of philosophically

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that because the universe is so big, it's surprising that

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everybody doesn't run into our doppelgangers more often. Doctor Mabka profound.

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to Casablanca, right, And they occupied Vsh territory, if you will,

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and the Klingons are kind of stand ins for the

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way the Nazis were depicted in that film. There's a

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glittering nightclub that this novette UNA's doppelganger ran, and it's

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just like Rick's Cafe, right, where innocent people trying to

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escape the occupation hide out while they're trying to figure

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out a way to escape and leave the planet.

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Mu Benga and Uvora.

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Navigate this moody, kind of shadowy atmosphere, and the way

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everybody dresses is very nineteen forties, right, And the whole

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vibe of the place is a nineteen forties colonial outpost

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kind of cafe. A lot of genre influences there that

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you seem like they would be very much akin to

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like a cousin of what Next Gen did in the

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Big Good Vibe, Except what is different here is you

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know they're they're not riffing on it for comedic effect,

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which is kind of good to see. They played it straight, right,

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They played it like a film more and there wasn't

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too much tongue in cheek stuff, which I think was

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a refreshing way to handle this, this particular aspect of,

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you know, a stylistic choice, if you will. Pretty soon,

470
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:13.200
Uvor is captured and interrogated by a very intense Klingon commander,

471
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:17.400
who we learn is Commander core Right, who we is

472
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.440
a character we're very familiar with, who was originated by

473
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.960
the great John Colicos in an original series season one

474
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.960
episode called Aaron of Mercy that Charles referenced, right the

475
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:31.319
very first time we ever saw Klingons depicted. And a

476
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.279
fun story about that is John Colikos and the makeup

477
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:35.839
person at the time, they didn't know what the hell

478
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:37.359
they were going to do with Klingons, right, And they

479
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.799
got into a conversation, and it was John Colicos, the actor,

480
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.799
who said, I kind of see them as like Genghis Khan, right,

481
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.440
That's how he imagined them, beings like these you know, warriors,

482
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:53.000
kind of vaguely asiatic, you know, with the facial hair threatening,

483
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.279
and that's kind of where the old school original series

484
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.799
look came from. So owe it to John Colicos, who

485
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.960
originated the character. So we're seeing a different version, an

486
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:05.160
earlier iteration of Commander Corps in this episode, which is

487
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:05.880
really interesting.

488
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.000
Una meanwhile, is.

489
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.559
Forced to step directly into this novette's shoes, playing the

490
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.039
part of the loyal Klingon collaborator to get close to

491
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.240
Kor's plans, and then to discovered that Norett has already

492
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:23.079
been killed and she's on ice, right, and now what

493
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:23.799
are we going to do?

494
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:24.920
Una?

495
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.200
Meanwhile, back on the Enterprise, Laan tracks down an anomaly

496
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.039
that is tied to the initial data from the probe

497
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:36.400
they retrieved. Right she discovers this loosened memory chip and

498
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.920
the logs have been wiped and kind of unusual. First,

499
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.559
box Bock dismisses her concerns as kind of groundless paranoia,

500
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.240
which is really you wonder how that's going to play

501
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:51.440
back in their quarters later in the evening, but Scotti

502
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.240
admits he only modified the probe to track a Klingon

503
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:59.200
D seven cruiser. Later on Chapel There's Chapel confesses to

504
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:03.000
Lan that she said babotage the logs as the probe

505
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.079
was being beamed on board. If I understood it correctly,

506
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.160
it sounds like the probe had data on it that

507
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.000
would lead to the revelation of an unsanctioned medical rescue

508
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.400
mission and to cling on space that had been conducted

509
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.680
by a federationship, the USS Yang, whose commander, I guess

510
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:22.160
was a close friend of Chapel's, and exposure of those

511
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.279
logs would mean severe consequences from both Starfleet and the

512
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.160
Klingon Empire. So to protect them all, law And agrees

513
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.240
to keep Chapel's secret and hides the discovery from being

514
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.160
revealed to Pike as kind of a little bit of

515
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:40.160
a wooly b story, if you will. But let's get

516
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.759
back to the action on the planet. Una and Ma

517
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:48.880
Benga discover that the real Novett's big plan before she

518
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.119
was killed was to steal a detonator and unleash a

519
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.920
localized EMP electromagnetic pulse right that would disable to cling

520
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.880
On surveillance grid and all of the tech of their

521
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:03.920
occupation of the planet. So, one last time to step

522
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:07.440
into the role of playing the vett, Una convinces this

523
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.359
Klingon collaborator who's an old, squirrely dude, and he unknowingly

524
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:16.640
triggers the device himself, resulting in the EMP completely crippling

525
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.599
Commander Corus planetary defenses right and using a forged ID card,

526
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.559
which is very Casablanca kind of a cool thing to

527
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:31.079
bypass security. But Benga and the local resistance rescue we're

528
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.759
just as Core is preparing to subject her to a

529
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:40.079
dangerous mind scanner that in the original series that same episode,

530
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.480
Core talked about as being like a mind sifter, memorably

531
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:48.799
saying that it would render the person into a vegetable

532
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:50.799
if they were exposed to it. Right, It was a

533
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:55.720
first torture device, more mental than physical the way Core

534
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.960
described it. So the Klingon Occupation Network is completely disabled,

535
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.319
all their tech is fried thanks to the MP, and

536
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:06.160
the local population is looking like they're going.

537
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.719
To be united in open revolt.

538
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.480
And in all the midst of that chaos, Una and

539
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:15.039
the away team use all that distraction to escape back

540
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.280
to their shuttle and return to the Enterprise and play

541
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:20.960
it again, Sam if you can.

542
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:22.639
So that's kind of a.

543
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.079
Quick just refresher of what this episode contained with all

544
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:31.480
of its film noir references, and you'll be hearing all

545
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.079
of us trexperts talk about what we thought about it,

546
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.719
including me and our rating scales at some point. But

547
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.320
first of all, it's always really interesting to hear what

548
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:42.079
you think of it.

549
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:42.599
Fans.

550
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.320
You are our audience. You are a most important component,

551
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.239
right You're out there and just like we are watching

552
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:50.920
this episode from week to week, and it's really interesting

553
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.800
to find out the next morning what you thought. So, Eric,

554
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.039
I know you are spinning many plates on many sticks tonight,

555
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:02.239
but do you have the ability to share our fans

556
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.719
thoughts to this episode with us.

557
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.880
So many stick plates? But yes, I do. I do

558
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:11.760
have that ability. Thank you so much, Paul, Carol, isabel

559
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.559
who is a top fan. Perhaps Isabelle, perhaps I'm adding

560
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.719
a little vamporism to that, but top fan means that

561
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.760
you love us so much that you care to actually comment,

562
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.239
and you gave this episode a eight. I love the

563
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:31.159
Casablanca feel, especially since my favorite scene in Casablanca was represented.

564
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.559
There were a couple of scenes represented, so I would

565
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.760
love to know which one you're actually talking about, Carol.

566
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:40.480
But but yeah, fantastic comment. Thank you so much. Pamela

567
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:44.800
Tera Jacques said eight. Besides, some minor pacing issues. This

568
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:48.719
was a beautifully shot and designed episode with some great

569
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:52.400
character development. Una learns that she has an incredible ability

570
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:56.599
to be adaptable, which shows command strength. The best captains

571
00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:59.920
of the franchise were not people who liked quote rule

572
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.800
us lists about rules. Uhura is just one step closer

573
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.679
to the Aurora, who will blend to the horrors of

574
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.639
the Mirror universe and pull the phaser on that hapless

575
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:17.320
ensign or lieutenant in search for spot. I think that

576
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.760
Laan's story may be wearing thin bit.

577
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:20.280
Oh.

578
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.079
I couldn't agree with you more, Pamela, but I will

579
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.320
reserve judgment until the ninth episode, which by the title,

580
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.599
will probably focus on her. And they couldn't get over

581
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.760
how much Ethan looked even more like his vaunted grandpa

582
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.519
in black and White. Wow, awesome review, Thank you so much, Pamela.

583
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.000
Ashley Williams gave it a sixth. I'm being generous because

584
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.599
it's not my cup of tea, but I did think

585
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:50.639
it was well done. Jerry mccaree mcaree mccari said a four.

586
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.599
I had to watch this in two sittings. I was

587
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:57.199
so bored and Una just happens to be the exact

588
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:02.880
appel ganger for Nevett. Come on, Tony Schabs said four.

589
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:07.920
The strange New World Shark has officially been jumped. You

590
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:12.039
know what, Tony, that can be undone by the right episode.

591
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:17.079
You realize, all right. Marino Silva top Fan said ten

592
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.519
out of ten with lots and lots of emojis, hearts

593
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:23.639
and stuff, hands flying all over the place. Thanks Marilla.

594
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.920
Darren Sykes said Coors shouldn't have head ridges at this

595
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.320
point in time, as he and all the other Klingons

596
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.800
suffered from that disease that gave them smooth heads. Here

597
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:36.239
we go. Other than that, this episode was a good

598
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.840
one seven out of ten minus three points because of

599
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:43.880
Klingon head ridges. Thanks Deren. Mike Erasmanet gave it a three.

600
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.960
The premise was just dumb. She looked and sounded exactly

601
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:48.840
like someone who just happened to be the leader of

602
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:53.159
the resistance, exactly like her. I'm reading this with the

603
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.559
emotion that I assume is intended here, and the way

604
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.800
the doctor used badly written dialogue to try to justify

605
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.800
this impossibility just made it worse. What happened to quality

606
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:09.440
writing in Hollywood? Thanks Mike Ronald Paul Woods, a top fans,

607
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.840
said five point five. They made experienced characters act brand

608
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.119
new to make the plot work. Core was cool though, Yeah,

609
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:22.360
ron thanks, and Barry P. Cook said like a five.

610
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.760
The b plot was completely unnecessary and they could have

611
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:28.360
used that time to explore the ways in which living

612
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:33.000
under cleanout occupation is terrible, but they only scratched the

613
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.719
surface and as a result, the story didn't have any

614
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:41.679
real emotional heft. Thanks Barry. Quality comment there that gave

615
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.519
us a combined fan score this week for this episode

616
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.599
six point zero. And I don't remember last week's I

617
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:56.840
remember that our Trek Expert score was super low. But anyway,

618
00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:59.320
fans are a six point zero this week.

619
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:04.760
People, all right, well, uh David said that he had

620
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:09.679
videotaped his review. Do we have that?

621
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.280
Oh? Man, do I have that? I hope this works.

622
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:13.880
Let's let's let's see here we.

623
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:21.360
Go engineering log Oh my god, let's get into it.

624
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:23.320
First.

625
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.119
I want to just go off and say they missed

626
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:29.880
a lot of opportunities to get the continuity correct. I

627
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.360
know you guys are probably gonna hate me for this,

628
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.519
but I'm gonna talk about the y not rigid again

629
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:40.159
for right now until they decide to rework Cook and

630
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:46.440
Box old nineteen sixty style TV show into a brand new,

631
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:53.039
more modern era type. And I know and I understand

632
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:54.840
that back in the day, they didn't have the budget

633
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.199
to try and get the clan on the way they

634
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:58.880
wanted to work, so they all appreated and it probably

635
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.719
came along chain see continuity into a sense that they

636
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:06.440
figured out a way to make them look human. Explained

637
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:11.639
why they do not have those widges anymore. I don't

638
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.360
know why they brought the ridges back in this particular episode.

639
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.480
The fact that they are supposed to be before Cook

640
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:19.039
and then all of a sudden he looks human again.

641
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:21.719
That doesn't make sense to me. I'm gonna try and

642
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.239
stop talking about the whole thing again because I know

643
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.039
you guys are gonna be like, oh, well, you guys.

644
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:31.559
But anyways, Yeah, so this episode I enjoyed black and white,

645
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:36.599
as you can see here. I enjoy black and white

646
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.199
films a lot. I grew up with them, I have

647
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:42.599
a lot of fond memories, and yeah, there's a lot

648
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.280
of shows that I like in general that have to

649
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:52.159
do it black and white. Anyway, So uh, yeah, this

650
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.119
episode I enjoyed a lot. Costa Blanco was one of

651
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:59.559
my favorite shows growing up. There was that scene where

652
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:05.239
they claim on coming scening uh her saying, and all

653
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:10.159
the gin joints. So to me, this whole thing was

654
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.239
an up for me. There was a lot of option

655
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.679
this episode that I enjoyed. I liked the mystery. I

656
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:24.920
enjoyed the uh the way to clean on annex colonies

657
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.039
like they did in the tos or even the Next Generation,

658
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:34.840
the scene with her in core way of reminder of

659
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:40.119
there are four lights in this case, there's a lot

660
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:47.159
more lights. But I'm gonna have to put a little

661
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:51.599
stamp in here though, because where are all the aliens?

662
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.320
Why did they have to make a lot of the

663
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.840
cultures that they come across looks human? That to me,

664
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.400
I don't understand. This is my opinion. I wish that

665
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.119
Trek would have been a little bit more keen on

666
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:11.800
making a lot more aliens be alien instead. I mean, now,

667
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.159
it just made me look it seemed like it made

668
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:17.880
me think that they were a bunch of humans on

669
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.679
this planet, even though ye had they called them something different,

670
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:24.239
which I'm trying to remember what they were. But I

671
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.599
didn't like the idea that they all looked human, they

672
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:28.920
all acted human, they all seem to have a lot

673
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.519
of human furniture.

674
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:34.760
Which was kind of weird.

675
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.239
I don't know, it's just me, I guess, but that's

676
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.280
That's the other thing I kind of didn't like about

677
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:41.159
this episode. That kind of threw me off. And so

678
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:44.480
I fits, you know, bragging about the hate of this episode,

679
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:50.679
but actually enjoyed for the New World a lot, one

680
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:54.760
of my favorite series throughout the last couple of seasons,

681
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.599
and for some reason, this season just fell off for me.

682
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:00.840
This is one of the one episode, the first episode

683
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.719
of Cheasing three that actually kind of brought it up

684
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.960
for me. The last couple of episodes were like what why?

685
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:10.679
But I don't know.

686
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.360
But other than that, you guys are probably gonna want

687
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.360
to talk about this too. So I'm gonna just go

688
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:21.559
ahead and give this episode a score of probably eight.

689
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.840
I want to bump it up a little higher, mainly

690
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.920
because of the fact that it was a black and white.

691
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.679
I actually enjoyed black and white, but I might have

692
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.920
to bring it down to a seven, mainly because there's

693
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.000
one more point I wanted to add, and that is

694
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.239
the fact it didn't make sense to me when they

695
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.400
all escaped from that planet, all of a sudden they

696
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.000
get their color back. And I thought the star from

697
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.159
what Benga talked about, was supposed to make everything black

698
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.880
and white. As you guys will see on the slide

699
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.639
shows there, clearly the Enterprise is well out of range

700
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.360
of that star clear class Like Alan, did you further

701
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:07.159
side of the planet or whatever? They were all black

702
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.920
and white too? Why weren't they not color? How did

703
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:16.239
how did Una become colored when she hadn't even become

704
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.480
docked with the animising it? So to me, I'm just like,

705
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.719
that didn't make sense to me. But okay, that's that's

706
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.000
what I wanted to say. So I'm probably gonna have

707
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.840
to give this episode of seven seven and you guys

708
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:33.199
enjoy the rest of the h the show. I hope

709
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:34.840
you guys can find out see you guys next week.

710
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:43.559
Sea. All right, So that's our miracle worker David. He's

711
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.199
got a wedding right now and he sent us that

712
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.440
video to play. And I love the black and white.

713
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:51.199
I love the fedora. David is quite a character. So

714
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:53.719
would you like to jump in that.

715
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:59.199
I don't know how I can follow. That was awesome, David.

716
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.639
That was awesome. Yeah.

717
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.320
The black and white, I mean, Rebecca Romayne is just

718
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.519
I'll say, she's just absolutely hot. She was smoking in

719
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.440
that role. She looks good and black and white. I

720
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:23.000
like the parallels to Casablanca. I was a little bit

721
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:29.119
confused with the story with law On and the probe

722
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:29.719
and everything.

723
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.239
It just I don't know.

724
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.960
I just had a little bit of trouble keeping up

725
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.639
with what was going on on the planet and then this.

726
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:42.719
But I did like to see that Scotty and Ortegis

727
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.000
are friends now and his remark.

728
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:48.880
About what did he say exactly? It was a.

729
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.079
Nod to what will happen to Scotty in the future

730
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.920
getting stuck in the patterns.

731
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.880
He said, he said, cross my heart and hope to

732
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.639
get stuck in a pattern buf first.

733
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.039
Huh, that was that was hilarious.

734
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.119
That was a little When I heard that, I just

735
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:07.960
had to laugh.

736
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.119
I don't really have a I mean, after David, I

737
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:16.440
just don't know what else to say. I enjoyed it.

738
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:20.079
It was I had to watch it twice. I didn't

739
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:25.400
quite get it the first time. I mean, well done.

740
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:30.960
I'm just gonna leave it at giving it seven point five.

741
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:37.000
Seven point five, Okay, so, Derek, you want to jump

742
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.800
in next? Yeah?

743
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:39.159
Sure.

744
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:44.079
So last week I talked a little bit about the

745
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.599
fact that Star Trek this season has not built the

746
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:51.239
trust that we sort of need in order to approach

747
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:55.960
these episodes with an open heart. I will say this one,

748
00:46:56.280 --> 00:47:03.079
compared to the last couple, far exceeded expectations. First of all,

749
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:06.639
the black and white set up at the beginning, you know,

750
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.880
did not at all feel contrived or cheesy or gimmicky.

751
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:14.280
I guess I would say it actually felt like part

752
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.760
of the story, and once it started, I forgot that

753
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.119
it was happening, so it wasn't. That tells me that

754
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.440
it was just such an integral part of the story

755
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.639
that it didn't even matter that it was in black

756
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:29.599
and white. I will say cinematically, the episode was beautiful.

757
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.599
I thought there were some great shots. I thought there

758
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.599
was some really cool like depth of shot that happened

759
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.840
that wouldn't happen if it was color, you know what

760
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.000
I mean, Like things felt a little bigger or a

761
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:47.079
little like deeper because of the way that it was shot.

762
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:51.280
So I thought that was really fun. You know, the

763
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.480
kind of premise that there's an exact double ganger out

764
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.159
there and then Bingo sort of explains it away. It

765
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.559
wasn't enough to me out of the story at all.

766
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.440
It was a little bit shenanigans, and it would have

767
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.079
been cool if they would have like found a way

768
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:10.119
to put that into the story. You know, there's a reason,

769
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:13.280
like I kept waiting for UoN is a clone or

770
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:16.000
you know, like some some sort of thing like that.

771
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:18.880
So the fact that that didn't pay off was a

772
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:26.679
little bit frustrating for me. Totally loving Scottian or Tegas's

773
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:31.800
continuing story that's really cute and beautiful. The horror stuff

774
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.280
in this episode was weird for me because she she

775
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:39.880
gets captured and then she's being tortured, and she's supposedly

776
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.719
being tortured by the you know, by as as Paul

777
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.840
was mentioning there by like this cleon thing that's supposed

778
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.519
to literally render you insane when it happens to you,

779
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.639
And what we got on screen was like a bright

780
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:58.320
light and some brown kind of stuff and then her

781
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.440
kind of like coming out of it and not being

782
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.400
sweaty or anything, just sort of being okay. So I

783
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.239
didn't believe the torture part of it for one second,

784
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.559
which was okay. Like that. You know, the episode wasn't

785
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:15.239
like revolving around the torture, but the whole Uhura part

786
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.159
of the storyline, I guess, was the one that I

787
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:23.400
thought was personally the weakest. Like, okay, so there are

788
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.679
a million Klingons out there. Did it have to be Core?

789
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.039
Did we have to bring war into the story again?

790
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:30.880
I don't.

791
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.519
I think it's great. That just felt a little bit like,

792
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.119
you know, one of those Leonardo DiCaprio like Core. I know,

793
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.840
Core like moments. You could have made it any kling On.

794
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.239
It didn't have to be Core. The only thing I

795
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:48.199
could figure maybe was that, you know, David loves to

796
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:51.840
talk about sort of the nitty gritty of things.

797
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:52.079
You know.

798
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.559
The D seven you'll remember from Discovery was like a

799
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:58.920
pretty new ship, and so I would assume that only

800
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.039
Core or people and sort of high places would actually

801
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.280
be in a D seven, And a D seven was

802
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:06.639
featured in this episode, So I'm assuming the cling On

803
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:10.079
Empire at this point, you know, has a handful of

804
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:13.079
D seven's and doesn't have a fleet of them, so

805
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.079
to speak. But I don't know. Somebody out there probably

806
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:19.440
knows more about that than me. Okay, that's the core stuff.

807
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:25.320
Una violating the prime directive. You know, she's got to

808
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.920
do it, I guess, And actually that's sort of kind

809
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.480
of the cool thing about this episode is that she

810
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:32.960
she says, you know what, I'm gonna get involved. And

811
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:36.400
m Benga. He's probably my favorite character in this episode

812
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:40.760
because he's sort of the conscience of both Una and

813
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.559
Then I feel like he's just sort of like the

814
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:48.920
angel on the shoulder of all the people he interacts

815
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:53.880
with in this episode, particularly Una, but others throughout the episode.

816
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.079
So you know, he's like, don't do it, and she's like,

817
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.800
I gotta do it, dude, and he's like, Okay, I

818
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:03.440
guess we're gonna do it. So they violate the prime directive.

819
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.920
You know, good times are had. But it's I think

820
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:11.199
it's done in such a way that it doesn't feel

821
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:14.320
disruptive to their culture. It feels like a revolution. It's

822
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:17.639
it feels like supporting. It's not one of these morally

823
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.519
ambiguous episodes of Star Trek that comes up every once

824
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:22.920
in a while where you don't know which way is

825
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:26.840
the correct decision. This one has a clear kind of

826
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.280
like Okay, yeah, these people deserve to be supported. So

827
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:34.079
I you know, it didn't really bug me. If somebody

828
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:35.880
was to come to me some like Star Trek Puri

829
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:39.039
are supposed to be like prime directive, I'd be like, okay, dude,

830
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:44.360
I get it, Like yes, But also, this was a

831
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.760
great story, So yeah, I thought I had a really

832
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:52.800
cool ending. Lots of not lots the appropriate amount of

833
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.519
sort of tongue in cheek stuff. But as Paul said,

834
00:51:55.559 --> 00:52:00.519
the thing wasn't overly cheesy or or like kitchy at all.

835
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.880
It just felt really natural. That was a great episode,

836
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.719
really well written. Was it my favorite of Strange New World's. No,

837
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:11.239
but I think it was, aside from the opener, the

838
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.719
best episode we've seen by far. So I gave it

839
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.159
a seven.

840
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.800
So there you go, all right, A seven from Eric.

841
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:19.880
How about you, Charles, what do you think about it?

842
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.599
As I turned my mic on, as I said, as

843
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:33.239
I turned my mic back on, okay, as I got

844
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.559
thinking about this episode and a little bit of chatter,

845
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:43.000
I'm not as much familiar with Casablanca, but I do

846
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:46.440
know what this a little bit reminds me of. And

847
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:51.840
I'm digging a little more Les Misrah and dealing with

848
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:59.840
the trying to deal with going against the group, going

849
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:07.440
against who's controlling. Eric David made a good point, how

850
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:11.760
can we have to have this entire group of people Terran.

851
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:17.840
Why couldn't it we have had some other other beings

852
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:21.639
in here that we probably could have had more than

853
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.880
we just, Oh, it has to be all Terran, as

854
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.280
we did. Kind of the idea, the same thing as

855
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:36.119
Piece of Eight with the gangster theme. I agree with Eric.

856
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:41.320
I think the Little mind pro really didn't do much.

857
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.280
He's showing her pictures, trying to show her something of

858
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:48.159
a star Trek Delta, trying to get her to say something.

859
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:56.159
Didn't say it. The spy that showed up was completely

860
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:59.639
confused exactly who she was and how she kind of

861
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:04.840
tied end of the story when we saw that took

862
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:10.199
the took some kind of chemical to kill herself, and

863
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:14.119
I was still a little confused about where she came

864
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:20.840
in the story. Leon Leon's part of the story. I

865
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:22.719
think I agree with the one fan it's like that,

866
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:28.159
which is that went way too long while Leon needs

867
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:33.199
to suddenly be so paranoid about what's going on, and

868
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:35.000
that's kind of the idea I was getting from her.

869
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:39.039
She had she was paranoid and just confused why she

870
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.679
was so paranoid? And I will ask a couple of

871
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:48.920
these Casablanca folk people that was there some kind of

872
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:52.719
relationship with the Cuban sandwich in that movie?

873
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:53.840
Right?

874
00:54:57.719 --> 00:54:59.000
Why did?

875
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:03.760
Why were the engineer why were the engineer and pilot

876
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.599
so hooked up and saying, Oh, we're gonna tell her

877
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:11.079
you got a Cuban sandwich? Like, whatd the Cuban sandwich

878
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:12.519
have anything to do with it?

879
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:12.960
Oh?

880
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:16.559
It's had mustard on. I like mustard. I had two.

881
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.480
It's like, okay that I was completely confused where where

882
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:27.559
that came from? Sorry about little flickers on my camera.

883
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:37.360
I got a cat going back and forth, But I'm

884
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.400
not sure I can add a whole lot more to it.

885
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:40.719
Uh.

886
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:48.639
As we said, the previous Strange New World episode where

887
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:52.400
we had m Vega and the other klingon which we're

888
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:56.320
not sure if he killed or not, kind of reminded

889
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:58.280
me a little bit of that story, which I knew

890
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.840
the truck other truck experts really that episode.

891
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:03.920
I was as crazy about that episode.

892
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:06.599
So I think we're gonna fall a little bit more

893
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.800
in that pace. And on this one, I'm going down

894
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.320
to a six where Derek said oh, the black and

895
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.639
white wasn't distracting to them. To me, it was a

896
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:20.199
little more distracting. It was hard to see and really

897
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:24.840
tell what was going on at times, and I think

898
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.039
it just didn't quite work.

899
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:27.599
As well for me.

900
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.480
All Right, So we got a six from Charles Paul

901
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:34.320
how about you?

902
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:35.760
All right?

903
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:38.760
Thanks Uncle Jim. Yeah, I necho a lot.

904
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:43.199
Of I think what folks have said before. I do

905
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.800
like the fact that if you're gonna do something like this,

906
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.039
and you're gonna do a pastiche right, a particular riff

907
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.280
on a genre which seems to be kind of their

908
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:57.280
their whole thing this season on the show. I like

909
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:59.960
the fact that they didn't wink too much at it.

910
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:04.480
They didn't you know, slide into too much parody, because

911
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:06.639
we get that on a regular basis in this show,

912
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:10.639
you know normally. So I liked that they played it

913
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.760
straight right, which was good. So I think that helped

914
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:17.360
out a little bit. But you know, it's it's such

915
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.840
a gimmick, right, I mean, it's just like we've had

916
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.559
so many different every it's you know, wheel of genre

917
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:27.719
roulette every week for season four. I you know, I'm

918
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:28.639
certainly nothing.

919
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:30.880
So I was waiting for this, Paul, Like, so let

920
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:36.960
me ask you this. If this episode was shot in color,

921
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:41.480
would it have been different for you? I know that

922
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.719
you can imagine what that looks like in your head,

923
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.360
and like how it would have affected your viewing experience?

924
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:47.519
Would that have mattered?

925
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:50.960
Now, because it's the writing, it's the story, it's it's

926
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.559
the execution, right, It's just it's just it's you know,

927
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.840
black and white. That's just sort of you know, since

928
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.599
they're choosing to riff on a film noir, thing black

929
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.039
and white is more appropriate. But I mean, you'd get

930
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.280
the same story. And I'm going to criticize one element

931
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:06.960
of that story just as much if it was in

932
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.199
color as if it wasn't. And that is this whole

933
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:16.639
notion of Una just magically resembling the not just anybody

934
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:18.960
on the planet, but the leader of the resistance, right,

935
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:21.880
I mean, and she just somehow is utterly not he.

936
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.559
Her speech is the same, you know, she just sort

937
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:28.760
of intuitively knows exactly how this woman she never met

938
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:31.840
and behaves in these stressful circumstances, right and the bridge

939
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.239
too far from me, brother, It's just such a contrived

940
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.519
nonsense that she would just happen to look exactly like

941
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:40.159
this perfectly, you.

942
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:45.280
Know, convenient the leader.

943
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.639
No, I mean, that's just the laziest trophy writing ever.

944
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:51.440
I just I could not get past that.

945
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:51.840
Right.

946
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.559
I admire them for trying to do something different. I

947
00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:56.239
don't want to piss all over the people in the

948
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:58.440
show trying to do something creative, but you know, the

949
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.840
but this, this is a different genre every week. I mean,

950
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:06.920
tonight's the puppet episode, right, And I'm frankly just dreading it,

951
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.840
and I hope I'm wrong. Just like I just kind

952
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.920
of it's like now I look at the listing for

953
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:15.400
the episodes and I'm like, what next, Right, It's just

954
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:18.000
it's it's just getting really old. So I missed when

955
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:20.280
there was good writing, like in the very first episode

956
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.000
of the season, what theped So yeah, for me to

957
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:28.159
wrap it up, who is doppelganger thing, it's just preposterous.

958
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:29.280
I just thought that sucked.

959
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.920
I hated that whole business, the b story with like

960
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:36.559
the whole oh I with Chapel and I somehow magically

961
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.599
hacked the satellite while it was being transported to remove

962
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:41.960
the name of somebody that was my wife's cousin, sister's

963
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.199
brother who worked on another starship, and I didn't want

964
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.239
them to get in, you know, get them implicated. It

965
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:52.559
was just a miss, such a preposterously you know, ridiculous nonsense.

966
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:54.079
So I found that really annoying.

967
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:56.440
This guy on the screen right now, if you can

968
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.719
see it, Dmore Barnes or Demour Barnes, I'm not sure,

969
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:03.920
but the guy who played core tough act for this

970
01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:08.760
guy right to fulfill the shoes of John Colicos, who

971
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.000
created this character and went on to play him numerous

972
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:13.480
times on Deep Space nine. Right, I mean, like you know,

973
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:15.920
I mean, that's a tough act to phil. I think

974
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:17.719
he brought an interesting take to it.

975
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:18.000
Right.

976
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:20.039
It's tough because he's having to play a different kind

977
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:23.199
of Klingon. He's not as theatrical or over the top

978
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.800
as John Colicos was. But I thought he did a

979
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:30.280
good job of being menacing and charismatic and threatening, so

980
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:32.840
he brought a different interpretation to it.

981
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:34.800
I thought it worked, right.

982
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.800
I really like seeing one of our fans in the

983
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:40.840
comments mentioned that they would have liked to have seen

984
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.880
more about what it's like to live underneath Clington occupation rule. Right,

985
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:48.360
I think that was fertile ground that was not explored, right,

986
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:51.239
But when you see, like in this shot here you

987
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.719
see just a bunch of the people wearing Fedora's, it's

988
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:55.599
just really hard to take it seriously because it's kind

989
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.519
of like dress up time, right. So I mean, there's

990
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:00.719
some stuff I admire about it, like that you took

991
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:03.119
it seriously, and I like the guy, the actor de

992
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:06.440
Morgareans who played Core, I thought was really good, but

993
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:08.719
I couldn't get past the other stuff was just really

994
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:11.960
really hard for me. And uh, I just wish they

995
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.000
would get you know. I've been looking into the backgrounds

996
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:16.559
of some of these writers, and a lot of them

997
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:18.840
have written soaps, right, They've not done a lot of

998
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:20.800
There are not a lot of serious science fiction writers

999
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:23.360
on this show, and I think it really shows and

1000
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:25.280
I don't know what's going on. I would love to

1001
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:26.880
get them in a bar and say, what the hell

1002
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:27.239
are you think?

1003
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.280
I was thinking this year? What the hell was it?

1004
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:33.440
So the best I could do, I think is really is,

1005
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:37.559
you know, Ratchet, bring it up to like a six

1006
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:41.840
verbs to be encouraging, you know.

1007
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:43.599
Just I don't want to seem like I'm always like

1008
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:48.159
the old guys. I've been accused.

1009
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:49.679
Lately.

1010
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.679
But you know, it's just it's I have high standards, right,

1011
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.519
I have to judge these episodes on every episode of

1012
01:01:57.559 --> 01:01:59.760
Star Trek that's come before, all right, So that's how

1013
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:02.719
it's the litmus test, right, That's how you measure these things, right.

1014
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.840
It's like you have to judge them on their previous work, right,

1015
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.519
And a lot of this is not so great. I

1016
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:14.079
really like the way they own a tricked the collaborator

1017
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:16.360
dude into like setting off the thing, like going through

1018
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:17.639
the security screening at the end.

1019
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:19.000
That was a nice way to wrap it up. That

1020
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:20.960
was a clever bit of plot stuff there. So I'm

1021
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:23.280
willing to give it a six. But but just barely, man.

1022
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:27.599
I mean, I just really, I just the whole you know,

1023
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.960
genre Roulette thing is just weighing on me. It's hard,

1024
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:35.880
so you know, I yeah, I hope they figure out

1025
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:39.000
a way to, you know, to do something different. But

1026
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:41.559
this just didn't do it for me. So I'm sorry

1027
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:43.639
about that guy. So a six for me best I

1028
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.760
can do. And I'm going to go into A Night's

1029
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:48.719
Tonight's new episode with an open mind and I want

1030
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:49.880
to like every episode.

1031
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:50.559
I really do.

1032
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.119
I always go in there and want to love it.

1033
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:55.920
But for me, it's just like, you know, the only

1034
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.960
thing that matters is the writing. Everything else is just

1035
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:02.480
window dressing, pretend writing is. You know, if you don't

1036
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:04.239
have a good story and an inscript, you know, no

1037
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:07.480
amount of references and recognition things will save you.

1038
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:17.039
All right, So okay, to answer Eric's question, yes, I

1039
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:20.119
was upset this it was black and white because I

1040
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:23.400
wanted to see what the Klingon uniforms look like. If

1041
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.920
I want to cause play as core, I have no idea,

1042
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.280
so I really wanted to see what they look like.

1043
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:34.039
So I wasn't too thrilled with the black and white thing,

1044
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:38.079
especially with the Klingons. So that that's to answer your

1045
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.079
question on the color versus black and white thing. I

1046
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:42.920
want to talk a little bit about the Klingons because

1047
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:44.719
that's the only thing about this episode that was really

1048
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:47.360
worth a claim. The rest of it was barnbadge. You've

1049
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:52.199
heard of me, right, garbage. The opening sequence looked like

1050
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:56.599
the beginning of Metropolis with the Dirigibles flying around. Come on, really,

1051
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:01.679
this is the future and they're flying dirigibles no sorry,

1052
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:06.719
wearing fedoras and play your pianos. No garbage, no, sorry,

1053
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.480
don't buy that at all either, the una thing we

1054
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.119
already talked about. I'm going to focus on the Klingons

1055
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:14.800
because that's the only good part so Core. There's been

1056
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.719
a lot of talk about the ridgie head and Enterprise.

1057
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:20.719
Well let's let's look at this for a second. And

1058
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.039
enterprise they got the virus. We're talking about the virgins

1059
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:28.559
and affliction, those two episodes in season four where they

1060
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.159
Klingons ridges melt away and then they have to get

1061
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:33.960
classic surgery to rebuild them. If we look at Core

1062
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:36.639
in Deep Space nine, he's got a really wild ass

1063
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:40.800
ridgie head going on. But we look at the Core

1064
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:43.800
in this one and he has more of a start

1065
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:48.079
a five Klingon ridge going on. I had to get

1066
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:50.440
that in there for the but he's got a less

1067
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:53.639
pronounced plan on ridge. So to me, am, I in

1068
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:57.199
my mind, I'm justifying this by thinking, first of all, well,

1069
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:00.719
we don't know exactly when or where or how long

1070
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:06.840
Core was, you know, in contact with this virus, so

1071
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.159
he might be in the early stages of it and

1072
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:13.440
it's just starting to melt away his ridges, so that

1073
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:17.440
by the time Kirk meets him. Remember this episode's pre Kirk.

1074
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:20.039
By the time Kirk meets him, his ridges will be

1075
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.199
completely gone, and then he'll have surgery and have them

1076
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:26.000
rebuilt for Deep space nine. Okay, so that makes perfect

1077
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.159
sense to me. I don't buy this whole Klingon ridge things.

1078
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:33.159
I don't buy that. So that's my justification for that.

1079
01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:36.880
The mind sifter is a big one, and I've been

1080
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:40.280
looking into this a little bit. So the mine ripper

1081
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:45.079
was a Klingon terror tactic that they would use on people,

1082
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:47.079
that we're gonna rip your mind and there will be

1083
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:50.719
nothing left of you, and YadA, YadA, YadA. We didn't

1084
01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:54.000
see it used on Spock, but Spock wasn't really affected

1085
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:58.000
at all. And in this particular case we see Ahura

1086
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:04.440
is able to take it by pretending to be somebody else,

1087
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:08.800
which tells us that, well, just maybe, just maybe this

1088
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:12.559
Klingon minor ripper isn't really a mind ripper all. Maybe

1089
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:15.400
it's just one of the Klingon uh you know, things

1090
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:17.679
that they use to control people, and it's just another

1091
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:23.639
another terror tactic and lie on their arsenals. So that's

1092
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:28.679
the way I looked at that Clingon occupation. Yeah, cut

1093
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.039
all this crap on the starship and let's see the

1094
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:35.119
klingon occupied planet. You know, let us see Core running

1095
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:38.559
a planet they didn't give us that they gave us

1096
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:43.760
this whole resistance craft. I never saw Casablanca, so I

1097
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.760
have no idea if it was good or bad, or

1098
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:49.199
how how much they company either didn't which brings me

1099
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.559
to my next point, What the hell is this weird

1100
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:54.760
Al Yankovic of Star Trek. I mean, we're just making

1101
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.400
We're just making Star Trek episodes that are parodies of

1102
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:01.639
other stuff. If you didn't see the other stuff, how

1103
01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:04.199
can you appreciate the episode or what it is like

1104
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.719
if I hear weird owls eat it and I don't

1105
01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.400
know Michael Jackson's beat it. How can I appreciate the

1106
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:13.360
song for what it is if I don't know the

1107
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.280
clock what he's making fun of. I find this to

1108
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.400
be a problem with Strange New Worlds and their gimmicky episodes,

1109
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:24.039
particularly this one in particular. So they got to stop

1110
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:26.440
being weird out and get back to being Star Trek.

1111
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:28.800
Like our fans said in our poll, you know, let's

1112
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:31.840
stop the gimmicks and stop poppying stuff, but stop ripping

1113
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:35.559
stuff off and get back to doing Star Trek like

1114
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:39.519
Star Trek and stop being weird out. So there's that

1115
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:45.360
the Klingon battle cruiser. So originally the battle cruiser is

1116
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.599
in orbit forcing the shuttle to land on the planet.

1117
01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:53.119
Oh wait the planet? So what is this coussot? For

1118
01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:56.199
christ sakes, there was no place that they could land

1119
01:07:56.679 --> 01:07:59.960
where there wasn't people. The whole planet was a giant city.

1120
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:02.840
There was nowhere they could land that where they wouldn't

1121
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:06.199
have been seen. I didn't buy that at all. But anyways,

1122
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:10.400
the battle cruisers in orbit forces them to land. Later on,

1123
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:13.400
they set off the EMP pulse and the Klingon battle

1124
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:16.359
Cruiser is hovering over the planet and gets disabled by

1125
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:19.560
the EMPO pole. What was this like a megapulse or something?

1126
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:26.119
For God's sakes, I mean, I just yeah, yeah, so yeah,

1127
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:28.479
I got to be the lowest scorer on this episode.

1128
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:32.800
I apologize, guys, but didn't like it. And if it

1129
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.319
wasn't for Core and the Klingons, my score would be

1130
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:41.560
considerably lower. And I'm being generous here like Paul was,

1131
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.880
and I'm going to go with a five. I'd like

1132
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:47.680
to go with a four point five, but I'm going

1133
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.159
to go with a five. Simply because I enjoyed seeing

1134
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:54.840
cor you know, like becoming the character that we know

1135
01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:58.439
he's destined to be. So I'm going to go with

1136
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:02.359
a five. And yeah, that's the best I can do

1137
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:04.960
for this one. I'm sorry, guys, but oh yeah, the

1138
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:09.680
gin joint thing because I never saw Casablanca. When when

1139
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:11.720
when she said that, do you know what popped in

1140
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:15.359
my brain? My star trek brain. Do you guys remember

1141
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.960
a first season TNG episode one one zero zero one

1142
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:22.399
one zero zero one zero zero zero one whatever? Yep,

1143
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.960
when Minuet comes in and sits down and Riker says

1144
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:30.319
that exact same line to Minuet, And that's what I

1145
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:32.520
thought they were riffing on. I had no idea that

1146
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:34.920
that line was riffed from another movie. I just thought

1147
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:40.560
they were riffing on Riker. So anyways, that's my score

1148
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:44.399
and I'm sticking to it. So, Charles, what's our overall

1149
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:48.720
score from our trucks? First? Versus are fans on Facebook?

1150
01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:51.039
Okay?

1151
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.640
Well, our fans on Facebook gave this get our fans

1152
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.840
on Facebook gave this episode a six, and.

1153
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.239
The true experts, I think, gave it a six point four.

1154
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:06.760
It's the first time this season, we're actually higher than

1155
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.039
the fans.

1156
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:11.880
Well wait, let me let me lull my scroll a

1157
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:12.239
little bit.

1158
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:17.920
I was gonna say they did.

1159
01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:21.640
They did the cling on drinking songs there for a

1160
01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:25.640
little bit until the other people started uh doing the

1161
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:28.800
pounding on the uh you know, on the table.

1162
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.439
That's that's one of the Casa Blanca references, right, It's

1163
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.439
like when as opposed to like, you know, when they're

1164
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:38.880
singing like the German song and then the crowd sort

1165
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:40.680
of over sings them with, you know.

1166
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:42.880
The the French Patriot song.

1167
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.279
Uncle Jim, I just got to say, man, in a way,

1168
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:48.399
I kind of envy you, because I have never seen

1169
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:50.760
Casablanca is a marvelous thing.

1170
01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:51.119
It is.

1171
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:54.560
It is one of the great milestones of movie history.

1172
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:58.479
I think you would actually really like it. It's it's a beautiful,

1173
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:01.720
beautifully told story. It's I wouldn't let the chaos of

1174
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.800
this episode keep you from someday visiting it. I think

1175
01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:08.119
you would really enjoy it on its own terms as

1176
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.000
a separate piece of movie history. It's one of the

1177
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.600
great World War Two movies really ever. And the cast

1178
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:19.640
Chef Kiss, Claude Rains and Humphrey Bogart, and it's just marvelous.

1179
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:22.279
It's really, really really If any of our fans have

1180
01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:24.079
never if you've never seen Cast a Blanket, it's just

1181
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.960
it's it's a milestone of movie history.

1182
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:30.119
So check it out. Well, I forgot to mention that

1183
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:32.279
I thought it was cool that we got to see

1184
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:35.560
the beginnings of the Klingon cloaking device if you were

1185
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.319
paying attention at all, Scotty was trying to break it,

1186
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:41.640
and the Klingon battle cruiser kept bouncing around his screen

1187
01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.520
because they were they were messing around with the cloaking thing.

1188
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:47.439
And I also thought it was cool of a scene

1189
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:50.560
you're just talking about with the with the music when

1190
01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:52.840
they came in and said that they set the alarm

1191
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.960
at a frequency that Klingons couldn't hear, so when Core

1192
01:11:57.039 --> 01:11:59.319
ands Klingons walked into the bar, they couldn't hear that

1193
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:02.239
at all, as it was above their their hearing range.

1194
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:04.000
And that was an interesting fact that I never knew

1195
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:06.920
about Cleanland, So I thought that was cool as well.

1196
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:10.600
So yeah, but there is one thing I wanted to mention.

1197
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:12.840
There's nothing to do with this episode. It's just something

1198
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:16.680
that's on my crap because I'm sitting home now watching

1199
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:18.399
a lot of Star Trek and cruising around a lot

1200
01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:22.000
after my heart attack, and it's something I just want

1201
01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:23.640
to say here, and I'm going to get on my

1202
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:27.920
soapbox for here for a couple of minutes. I've been

1203
01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:32.119
reading a lot about people hating Star Trek, eating Strange

1204
01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:36.399
New World, eating Discovery, eating Starfleet Academy, blah blah blah

1205
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:39.560
blah blah, saying I've been a fan forever, this isn't

1206
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:41.880
Star Trek. I'm a writer, I wrote a book, and

1207
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.479
I know my friend who works for this place says

1208
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.199
it's terrible, all this other garbage, and I just I

1209
01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:51.279
just so, here's the thing. You don't have to like

1210
01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:54.439
Starfleet Academy. You don't have to like Lower Decks. You

1211
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.720
don't have to like Star Trek five, although it's a

1212
01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:58.800
big mistake because it's the best Star Trek movie ever.

1213
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:01.279
But we'll get into the end of the other. But

1214
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:05.199
here's the thing. Star Trek to me, I think is

1215
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:08.560
very important to me personally because I think that the

1216
01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:12.239
overall meaning behind Star Trek, what you should take out

1217
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:16.760
of Star Trek, what it symbolizes, is humanity coming together

1218
01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:21.119
as one whole. The human race comes together. Doesn't matter

1219
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:24.520
what your religion is, what color you are, you know,

1220
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:29.479
what sexual orientation you are, None of those things matter.

1221
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:33.600
In Star Trek, we are the human race and everybody

1222
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:36.239
is accepted for who they are and what they are.

1223
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:40.319
And we realize that in Star Trek that it's our

1224
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:44.319
differences that make us stronger and not weaker. And that

1225
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:49.199
is the message behind Star Trek. And when humans take

1226
01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:52.800
the space, they form the Federation and they look for

1227
01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:55.520
like minded people and they accept them, whether they're blue

1228
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:59.319
or green, or at pointed ears or a various other

1229
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:02.920
differences is into the Federation, which helps to make the

1230
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:08.199
Federation stronger and better. And that is what Star Trek

1231
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:12.960
is and every iteration of Star Trek is based on that.

1232
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:17.600
And it's very sad to me when I hear people say,

1233
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:22.560
you know, Kurtzmann or Star Trek sucks, it's woke Trek.

1234
01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:27.079
It's forcing an agenda down our throats, Like have you

1235
01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:30.640
watched Star Trek at all? Have you even seen it?

1236
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:35.600
You know? Geene Rodenberry started out with an interracial kiss, okay,

1237
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:37.600
And I can go on and on, but there's no point.

1238
01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:43.159
Star Trek is about acceptance and if you can't accept

1239
01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:49.560
Star Trek first, different iterations because you don't like a

1240
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:53.039
gay klingon, because there's too many women on the ship,

1241
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:58.319
because whatever stupid reason you come up with, then you

1242
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:01.760
need to reevaluate what exactly it is about Star Trek

1243
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:06.720
that you're attracted to, because even the worst of Star

1244
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:11.920
Trek is based on that simple premise. The starship has

1245
01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:15.920
various aliens on board, they're all getting together, they're all

1246
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:19.119
working together as a crew, and that is what Star

1247
01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:21.399
Trek is about, and that's what the human race has

1248
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:24.680
to strive for, and that is what attracts me to

1249
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:29.600
Star Trek, all Star Trek. And to not see that,

1250
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:34.520
particularly in Starfleet Academy, you people have their eyes closed.

1251
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:38.640
You're not watching what I'm watching. I don't understand when

1252
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.880
you say you want real star Trek, what exactly is

1253
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:46.359
it that you want? What is real star Trek to you?

1254
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.359
Is that a white guy running around controlling women in

1255
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:53.079
mini skirts and tight bodysuits. Is that real Star Trek?

1256
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:57.239
I mean, come on, so you know, I just had

1257
01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:59.399
to say that. I'm just I'm gonna have to make

1258
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:01.760
a video maybe to put up on YouTube or something,

1259
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:04.600
but come on, embrace Star Trek for what it is.

1260
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:09.560
We need positive influences now more than ever. And I'm

1261
01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:11.600
going to say something here. I think that the current

1262
01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:17.159
administration in the United States, particularly the Republican Party, is

1263
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:22.560
fostering these feelings of hate. You know, hate immigrants, hate

1264
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:25.840
anyone in the lgbt Q I a community. And it's

1265
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:28.840
okay because we will round them up for you and

1266
01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:32.239
make this country safe by getting rid of them, will

1267
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:37.079
lock them up for you. And this Star Trek fans

1268
01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:40.560
are picking this up and thinking this is okay. It's

1269
01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:45.760
not okay ever, Okay any reason it's okay. If you

1270
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:48.399
consider yourself a Star Trek fan and you think that's okay,

1271
01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:52.640
go find the nearest airlock and jump out it right now,

1272
01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:56.359
because it's not okay. And if you're on our Facebook

1273
01:16:56.359 --> 01:16:59.279
page and I hear you talking like that, guess what's

1274
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:02.640
gonna happen. You'll be ejected out a lot. I don't

1275
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:06.680
have any tolerance or hate speech or or anything like that,

1276
01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:10.039
So okay, I'm sorry. Maybe I'm getting off track because

1277
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:13.079
I had a heart attack and I don't know, but anyways,

1278
01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:13.760
that's it.

1279
01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:18.520
Good stuff, man, Like you're just speaking from the heart. Man,

1280
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:22.279
and like I think we would all say it, none

1281
01:17:22.279 --> 01:17:28.279
of us has any tolerance for any you know, lessening

1282
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:30.880
of anybody around us. We're all with you, rather than

1283
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:31.359
that's part of it.

1284
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:39.079
Absolutely you same values and bonus points. I feel like

1285
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:40.920
by example, you just gave.

1286
01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.159
All of us permission to continue to be as obinionated

1287
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:44.399
as we want to be as well.

1288
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.560
So I think that's absolutely that.

1289
01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:52.279
I somehow missed people calling you a grumpy old man

1290
01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:56.239
on on Facebook, and I want to find out who

1291
01:17:56.279 --> 01:18:02.039
they are because I will find them, and I will.

1292
01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:08.680
I was like during my past.

1293
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:13.359
Apparently somehow during my literature and drama career, I somehow

1294
01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:14.439
didn't realize what.

1295
01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:29.880
Someone chose to help educated administration whatever. It's an age age,

1296
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:32.840
bring it on. I'm happy to the.

1297
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:33.720
Older I get, the.

1298
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:39.279
More uh, you know, aggravated I get with with people

1299
01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:43.119
that are hateful and everything. And you know, to use

1300
01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:46.000
my favorite line from lower Decks, Uh, you know you

1301
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.720
don't like it if you're being hateful, eat a bag

1302
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:50.079
of board, Dick's motherfucker.

1303
01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:55.239
Yeah, It's just like we all get upset. I have

1304
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.479
done the kind of thing Uncle Jim just did so

1305
01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:58.840
many times in the last few years.

1306
01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:00.479
I can't even tire it. It's just like you know,

1307
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:01.760
it's just it's frustrated. Right.

1308
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:05.479
I will tell you one thing though, because as long

1309
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:07.880
as social media exists, people like are going to behave

1310
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:11.920
this way because the engine and the algorithm of social

1311
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:13.119
media feeds this shit.

1312
01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:13.479
Right.

1313
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:16.920
It's even if we didn't even have the current administration, right,

1314
01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:20.800
and a man can dream because scarm is a big wheel, right,

1315
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.159
But even if we didn't, as long as social media exists,

1316
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:25.520
these people are still going to feel this way because

1317
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:30.000
they feel everybody's been entitled to have their opinion, you know,

1318
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:33.279
really rooked up, because the algorithm likes it, right, and

1319
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:36.680
it feels it. And the only survival mechanism I've got

1320
01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:42.640
right to recommend for everybody is if retain your sense

1321
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.840
of humor at all costs. Right, If you lose it

1322
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:49.079
and you start taking everything super seriously, that these chuckleheads say,

1323
01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:51.720
you're doomed, right, and we're never going to make it

1324
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:54.159
out of the success bool, Right, there's a humor. It's

1325
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:57.119
just just just brush them off as much as possible.

1326
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.560
They don't represent everybody, they're just allowed. You know, rats

1327
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:03.399
that make a lot of noise. You know, chewing on

1328
01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:07.039
your chords and into the sink. Right, that's prayed me

1329
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:09.359
not I should not have let that one out. But

1330
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:13.520
we keep laughing, keeping out a sense of humor, but

1331
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:16.840
also shoot straight man like Uncle Jim did, like I

1332
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:19.399
try to do when I'm reviewing. I'm just like, if

1333
01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:22.039
I don't feel something measures up, it doesn't mean I

1334
01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:24.239
hate it. It doesn't mean I'm a bad person. I

1335
01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.119
hate Star Trek, I just I just I measure Star

1336
01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:31.000
Trek against its past, Okay, I mean it's super represents

1337
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.800
a whole future and really really solid writing. I just

1338
01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:37.239
think right now, I mean, I love strange new worlds.

1339
01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:39.960
I champion it. I want it to be good. I

1340
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:43.279
want it not to suck. And you know, it's I'm

1341
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:47.039
bummed that they got canceled and bummed that the fascists took.

1342
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:50.119
Over Paramount Plus. Right, It's it's it's.

1343
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.319
Unpleasant, you know, and I'm gonna laugh about it as

1344
01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:55.880
much as I can. But I'm I'm, you know, being

1345
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:59.479
upset about that's not going to make me be kind.

1346
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:01.319
Like if they was a plot element, right, if I

1347
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:04.119
got an element. Let's say, for example, they wrote an

1348
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:07.680
episode that was all about I don't know particular type

1349
01:21:07.720 --> 01:21:10.520
of candle that had a particular effect on people. Right,

1350
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:12.800
just because I like that doesn't I'm gonna give the

1351
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:18.720
episode a pass.

1352
01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:21.399
I don't know what you're talking about me at all.

1353
01:21:21.439 --> 01:21:25.800
I have no idea, but something in there that I

1354
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:28.279
like is not enough reason to give the show a pass. Right.

1355
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:28.680
I want?

1356
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:29.039
I want.

1357
01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:31.960
I really feel like I miss good writing, right, and

1358
01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:35.560
good good writing that just there's episodes of Star Trek,

1359
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:38.199
all of these different franchises that will just make it

1360
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.479
drop to your knees and just weep and how beautiful

1361
01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:44.760
they are right next Geen in particulars and Deep Space now,

1362
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:47.800
all of them, there's particular episodes where the writing is

1363
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:50.680
just like you never will forget that story or what

1364
01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.199
those characters went or you just like they're real people

1365
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:57.920
to you and what they went through feels real, right, And.

1366
01:21:57.920 --> 01:21:59.720
I just I just wanted to get back to that again.

1367
01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:01.279
I know that's there.

1368
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:04.720
You know, if you gave me control of the show

1369
01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:06.319
for I was, the first thing I would do is

1370
01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:06.960
cut pikes Hack.

1371
01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:08.439
That just becomes such a distraction.

1372
01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.279
I would be like, that's gotta go, bro, And I

1373
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:13.800
think he would probably be happy to join itself.

1374
01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:15.319
But I'm glad that we're all talking.

1375
01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:17.600
It's really great and we all just are unfiltered and

1376
01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:20.279
saying what Uncle Jim should.

1377
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:21.000
Be commended.

1378
01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:25.600
Boffing the Sexy Ghost. I mean, that's prime Star Trek.

1379
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:29.760
Let's just you know, I'm I'm, I'm hoping, I'm I'm

1380
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:31.279
hoping for the.

1381
01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.079
Cell delivered, the figure of my dreams. Batteries not included,

1382
01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:36.359
but you know, we'll still.

1383
01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:42.920
Well and the Sexy Ghost.

1384
01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:50.680
Please, it's a whole place what you just said. You know,

1385
01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:53.840
I did not like this episode. I thought it was trash.

1386
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:56.960
You know what, even though I didn't like this episode,

1387
01:22:57.359 --> 01:23:03.279
it was still Star Fork, still help oppressed people, you know,

1388
01:23:03.399 --> 01:23:06.079
gain their freedom. It was still Star Trek at its

1389
01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:08.439
core even though I didn't like it. So I'm not

1390
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:11.960
going to run around and say Kurtzman truck socks as well. No,

1391
01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:15.359
I didn't like it, Okay, it was still Star Trek

1392
01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:17.640
at its core, And I just want to make that clear.

1393
01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:21.000
I'm harsh on an episode that just means I didn't

1394
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:21.960
like that particular round.

1395
01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:24.159
So I totally hear you, and I think that I'm

1396
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:26.039
with you on this whole thing. Because people who want

1397
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:29.399
to paint with the really broad brush, right and say,

1398
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:33.319
oh all start Kurtzman Trek or new Trak the Cassidy

1399
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:37.239
use that lingo, right, It's it's it's kind of felt

1400
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:39.560
like I just don't think it's helpful because it's not.

1401
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:44.199
It's not cojin criticism. It's not really adding anything to discussion.

1402
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:46.960
It's just like, well like it felt like behavior, right,

1403
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:49.239
It's like the you know, you see this in the

1404
01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:51.760
DC universe a lot, right, there are people who like,

1405
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:56.039
you know, if it's not Zack Snyder, they're they're like,

1406
01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:58.079
you know, it doesn't really exist, it's not and you

1407
01:23:58.239 --> 01:23:59.479
see so much of that same thing.

1408
01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:01.159
It's the same kind of thing, you know.

1409
01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:04.439
It's just like again, it's just herd mentality, and social

1410
01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:08.359
media loves herd mentality, right, So it's just and it's

1411
01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:11.279
better that we all think individually, which I think is

1412
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:13.000
what Uncle Jim is encouraging us to do.

1413
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:17.039
So I really think that that's a great tenant to

1414
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:22.560
live by. Yep. Absolutely, And now it's time for a

1415
01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:28.159
segment that I particularly enjoy. It's SI five birthdays, so

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we have to roll our wonderful intro that was not

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01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:53.640
a Clin song, all right, guys, we always start off

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01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:56.960
our Starsbrek birthdays by sadly enough remembering those members of

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01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:59.359
our family who are no longer with us, and for

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01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:01.319
that to Eric.

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01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:05.680
Yeah, Jim. This week we honor actress fran Bennett, a

1422
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:10.199
prolific film and television actress who played Admiral Shanti in

1423
01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:14.960
the Next Generation fifth season episode Redemption Part two. Seventeen

1424
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:19.800
years later, Bennett portrayed the second Vulcan midwife beside Jill

1425
01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:23.439
Lover in two thousand and nine Star Trek. Her scene

1426
01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:26.239
Spock's birth was cut from the final film, but is

1427
01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:29.920
included on the Special Edition DVD and the Blu ray.

1428
01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:34.800
According to the call sheet of Monday, September sixteenth, nineteen

1429
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:37.720
ninety one, Bennett was up to reprise her role of

1430
01:25:37.760 --> 01:25:41.720
Admiral Shanty for the fifth season episode Unification one, but

1431
01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:47.399
was replaced by Karen Hensel as Admiral Brackett. Too Bad.

1432
01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:50.680
Plenty of theatre and Broadway under her belt. The Arkansas

1433
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:53.680
native was a two thousand and five inductee into Arkansas's

1434
01:25:54.279 --> 01:25:57.920
Black Hall of Fame. Thank you, Fran Bennett for all

1435
01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.880
of your Star Trek contributions and I thought you were

1436
01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:06.359
an awesome Admiral one of my favorites. Actually, also, we

1437
01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:10.239
would like to honor this week Joshua Andrew Kanig or Koenig,

1438
01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:13.840
not sure how he pronounces it, nineteen ninety one style

1439
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:17.399
or Walter style, but he was an actor, comedian, and

1440
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:21.520
filmmaker who played Tumac in the DS nine Sex and

1441
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:25.680
season episode Sanctuary. He was, of course the son of

1442
01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:29.359
Walter Kanig. Oh, well, there you go, Walter Kinnick. Andrew

1443
01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:36.399
is best known for playing Pavel Chekhov on the original series, Sorry,

1444
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:40.279
Andrew was not known as that. I think that was

1445
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:43.840
the was he on Star Trek continues? Not sure? Outside

1446
01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:46.319
of Star Trek, Andrew is best known for playing Mike

1447
01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:53.279
Severs friend Boner on the sitcom Growing Pains.

1448
01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:58.119
If you remember him away with that, Wow, I know, I.

1449
01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:01.319
Know, pretty racing. He was the writer, director, and editor

1450
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:04.239
of the two thousand and three short film Good Boy,

1451
01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:09.239
and has several other credits to his name. Unfortunately, we

1452
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:12.399
lost him back in twenty ten. There was a bit

1453
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:15.680
of a disappearance and that sort of thing involved. We

1454
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:18.479
lost him at the young age of forty one years old.

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01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:23.920
Happy birthday to Joshua Andrew Kinnick. Happy birthday. Oh, and

1456
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:26.800
I have to click this. There's so much to think

1457
01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:31.039
about you guys. Okay, Happy birthday as well to Glenn

1458
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:37.279
Corbett born Gleed Glenn Edwin Rothenberg. He was the actor

1459
01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:43.119
who played zephyrm cochrane in the original series episode Metamorphosis.

1460
01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:49.000
You know, prior to James Cromwell's awesome portrayal in the movies.

1461
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:52.279
His film debut was in The Crimson Kimono from nineteen

1462
01:27:52.319 --> 01:27:56.199
fifty nine. Eventually got the lead role in William Castle's

1463
01:27:56.199 --> 01:28:00.359
suspense thriller Homicidal from nineteen sixty one, which is actually

1464
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:04.439
pretty good movie. Substantial supporting parts in two of John

1465
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:08.279
Wayne's westerns, and throughout the eighties, Corbett stayed busy with

1466
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:11.319
a regular part on the cast of the long running

1467
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:15.720
television series Dallas. Yeah, there you go. He's got his

1468
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:19.039
ten gallon hat eight seven and a half gallon hat

1469
01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:25.640
right there in our videos. Happy birthday to Glenn Corbett.

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01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:29.880
Happy birthday as well to William Marshall when I'm very

1471
01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:33.319
excited about. He's an American actor, director, producer, and opera

1472
01:28:33.359 --> 01:28:37.479
singer who appeared as doctor Richard Daystrom in the TOS

1473
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:41.159
second season episode The Ultimate Computer. He, of course, was

1474
01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:46.840
the cousin of fellow Star Trek actor Paul Winfield. He

1475
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:51.039
was the actor of this guy who play Paul Winfield

1476
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.199
was the guy who played Clark Trell. You probably remember

1477
01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:56.560
from Star Trek to Marshall is probably best known for

1478
01:28:56.600 --> 01:28:59.279
playing the title role of the nineteen seventy two cult

1479
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:05.159
vampire melodrama Blacula and it's nineteen seventy three sequel, Scream

1480
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:08.840
Blacula's Screen. He was also known for his performance as

1481
01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:13.399
the King of Cartoons on the children's program Pee's Playhouse

1482
01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:17.560
from nineteen eighty seven through nineteen ninety one. I feel

1483
01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:19.800
like Pee Weee has been in the news again lately.

1484
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:22.159
I think his birthday is coming up or something like that.

1485
01:29:22.279 --> 01:29:28.399
But anyway, William Marshall awesome. Original doctor Richard Daystrom. We

1486
01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:31.039
lost him back in two thousand and three. Happy birthday

1487
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:37.119
to William Marshall. Happy birthday, last but not least on

1488
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:42.319
my list remembrances, and you know, all the kudos I

1489
01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:45.520
guess going out to Gene Roddenberry. We wouldn't have Star

1490
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:49.399
Trek without him. He's sometimes referred to as the Great

1491
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:53.199
Bird of the Galaxy. He's the American filmmaker and TV producer,

1492
01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:56.239
best known as the creator of the science fiction television

1493
01:29:56.279 --> 01:30:01.000
series Star Trek. Beginning the long running Star Trek franchise,

1494
01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:08.640
Rodenberry remains that's right. His ashes have been shot into space,

1495
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:11.279
which I think is I think he was like the

1496
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:13.840
first person who actually got shot into space, or whose

1497
01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:16.840
remains were first shot into space, which I think is

1498
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:20.439
really super cool. I have. You know, there's I mean,

1499
01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:23.079
there's so much to say about Gene Roddenberry and his

1500
01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:27.319
legacy for Star Trek, but there's a cool quote that

1501
01:30:27.399 --> 01:30:29.640
I like to sometimes read when his birthday comes up.

1502
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:33.479
It says, that's been a question one of the big

1503
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:37.439
questions in my life. What is a human? What are

1504
01:30:37.479 --> 01:30:41.720
the elements that make a human? It's a search for

1505
01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:45.840
how many elements do you get before you say, yes,

1506
01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:49.479
it's a human, where before you were saying it's not

1507
01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:53.119
a human. So he's saying that there is a sort

1508
01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:57.000
of tipping point of humanism, which I think is so

1509
01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:02.640
interesting and I relate that personally to you know, discussions

1510
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:06.479
of sensions of species that aren't humans and that sort

1511
01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:11.000
of thing. And I think if Gene Roddenberry was interested

1512
01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:13.560
in one thing he was interested in life on this

1513
01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:19.479
planet and how it's diversity made it really really special.

1514
01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:21.640
And I think he thought a lot about humans, but

1515
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:24.680
then I think sometimes he thought about not humans as well.

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01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:29.279
So I don't know. That's my take on Jeene Roddenberry.

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01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:33.039
You know, of course Star Trek is his legacy. He

1518
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:36.000
had a couple of pilots along the way that it

1519
01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:40.600
didn't get picked up. But one thing that I do

1520
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:45.359
like to mention, because sometimes people like the little trivia things,

1521
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:49.800
there is an okudogram of a great Bird of the

1522
01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:53.640
Galaxy if you if you know Gene Roddenberry was known

1523
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:55.479
as the Great Bird of Galaxy and you can look

1524
01:31:55.520 --> 01:31:58.359
that up and find out why. But an okudogram, of course,

1525
01:31:58.439 --> 01:32:02.800
is a little two dimensional digital representation in Star Trek

1526
01:32:03.399 --> 01:32:06.800
of something, and in this case, the Great Bird of

1527
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:11.479
the Galaxy being his head on a bird's body wearing

1528
01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:15.079
a Star Trek uniform. So I encourage you to go

1529
01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:21.760
check out TNG's The Naked Now or episode the episode Conspiracy,

1530
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:26.159
both of which have the Great Bird of the Galaxy okudogram.

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01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:30.079
Fun times, Happy birthday, Geene Ruttenbury. That's the best way

1532
01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:34.199
I could honor you. Bud all right, and that does

1533
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:37.479
it for our remembrances. So I will pass this flaming

1534
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:41.279
birthday candle on to Who's next? VAB.

1535
01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:41.640
Yeah.

1536
01:32:42.119 --> 01:32:45.039
Yeah, dropped for a bit, but I'm going to hurry

1537
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:49.640
up and get through my birthday wishes. First, Happy Birthday

1538
01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:55.000
goes out to Jennifer Lawrence. She's an American actress and producer.

1539
01:32:55.640 --> 01:33:00.800
She achieved international stardom for portraying the mutant Mystik in

1540
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:05.399
the X Men film series and Catness ever Dean in

1541
01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:09.800
the Hunger Games film series. The latter franchise made her

1542
01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:15.319
character the highest grossing action heroine of all time. So

1543
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:21.640
Happy Birthday to Jennifer Lawrence. Next, Happy Birthday goes out

1544
01:33:21.680 --> 01:33:26.880
to Diana Muldar. She's best known to Star Trek fans

1545
01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:32.039
for her portrayal of doctor Catherine Pulaski during the second

1546
01:33:32.119 --> 01:33:37.119
season of TMG. She previously appeared in two episodes of

1547
01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:41.239
Star Trek. The original series returns to tomorrow and is

1548
01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:46.520
There in Truth No Beauty, playing two different characters who

1549
01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:50.680
also held the title of doctor And you might also

1550
01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:54.479
remember her remember the character's name, but she was on

1551
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:58.079
La Law where she had an unfortunate end.

1552
01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:03.159
In an elevator. If you don't know, google it. It's

1553
01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:07.920
pretty gruesome. Anyway, it was. Did you see it? You

1554
01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:09.119
know what I'm talking about.

1555
01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:11.640
I don't, but now I kind of need to.

1556
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:12.239
Look at Okay.

1557
01:34:12.359 --> 01:34:15.159
Yeah, she was on La Wall, which I loved that show,

1558
01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:19.760
and she was this character on it, and elevator doors open,

1559
01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:23.039
she steps in and yeah, so.

1560
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:27.199
You can't anyway.

1561
01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:33.279
And then Happy birthday to the one and only Jonathan Freaks,

1562
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:36.640
who of course played at Commander William t Riker on

1563
01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:39.960
Tang and in four Star Trek films.

1564
01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:41.960
He also appeared as Riker.

1565
01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:45.880
In DS nine, Voyager, Enterprise, Picard and.

1566
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:50.840
LDS which I thought of, you know, in.

1567
01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:53.439
The Star Trek four where he took a lot of

1568
01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:59.920
LDS right lower decks. He also directed, I think he

1569
01:35:00.279 --> 01:35:05.840
like the has directed the most number of Star Trek episodes,

1570
01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:10.279
so tg D S nine, Voyager, Discovery, p Cards, Change,

1571
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:14.399
New Worlds, Starfleet Academy, and Star Trek Films, Star Trek

1572
01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:19.920
First Contract A Contact and Star Trek Insurrection. And I

1573
01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:24.199
got to meet him last year at Galaxy Con Richmond.

1574
01:35:24.279 --> 01:35:25.680
And you know how you have the.

1575
01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:31.760
Nanoseconds to get your picture taken and I managed to

1576
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:37.079
with Shatner a happy birthday and tell Jonathan Frakes that.

1577
01:35:37.039 --> 01:35:43.359
He was still riker hot. So there you go, happy birthday,

1578
01:35:43.399 --> 01:35:43.640
I know.

1579
01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:49.920
All right, yes, well you know you know me all right,

1580
01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:53.560
throwing this flaming birthday candle over to Paul.

1581
01:35:55.560 --> 01:36:00.199
Thank you v And speaking of LDS or LSD, I

1582
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:04.560
should mention that when Jane became one of the first

1583
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:07.439
people to have his ashes shot into space, one of

1584
01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:12.720
his container companions on that endless voyage's talcor Timothy Lyric.

1585
01:36:12.840 --> 01:36:13.000
Oh.

1586
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:17.079
So, if there is life after death, imagine the parties

1587
01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:21.000
those two are having the head towards the end of

1588
01:36:21.720 --> 01:36:22.560
the Solar system.

1589
01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:23.720
So fun to think about.

1590
01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:28.760
Right, let's continue our birthday parade, our cavalcade. I'd like

1591
01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:32.520
to wish a tremendous happy birthday to someone who was

1592
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:35.159
born the same year that Star Trek began a good

1593
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:39.079
old nineteen sixty six. The great Halle Berry began her

1594
01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:43.439
career as a model beauty contestant Miss Ohio of Miss

1595
01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:47.000
USA in nineteen eighty six, and then rocketed to start

1596
01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:50.920
him very quickly thereafter. Some of her famous roles, of course,

1597
01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:53.680
include the mutant Storm.

1598
01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:55.359
In the X Men film series.

1599
01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:59.079
She was a Bond Girl Jinx with Pierce Brosnan and

1600
01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:04.279
Die Another Day, cool thriller named Gothic, and of course

1601
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:10.079
most pivotally won the Academy Award for Best Actress for

1602
01:37:10.119 --> 01:37:14.159
her work in the remarkable picture Monsters Ball with Billy

1603
01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:14.760
Bob Thornton.

1604
01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:17.079
Amazing stuff if you've not seen it.

1605
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:21.319
Not a genre picture, but a wonderful drama and daring,

1606
01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:24.600
gutty work for her. So she's really really does tremendous work.

1607
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.960
I don't know if we'll be seeing her in the

1608
01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:34.079
new iterations of X Men that are crossing over in

1609
01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:36.399
the Marvel Cinematic universe, and there's gonna be a lot

1610
01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:38.960
of X Men stuff going on and Avengers Doom today,

1611
01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:41.680
so we'll find out. But always a treat to get

1612
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:45.560
to see Holly Berry's work. She's just tremendous. So great

1613
01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:51.479
to honor you. Happy birthday to Natasha Henstridge, Canadian actress

1614
01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:57.439
of course, who first came to prominence with the Species movies.

1615
01:37:57.479 --> 01:38:00.319
I don't know if folks have seen all those, but

1616
01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:03.560
but they were kind of from the same design aesthetic

1617
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:07.119
of hr Giger right from Alien right, and they created

1618
01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:09.319
the creature and then I think wrote the movie after

1619
01:38:09.399 --> 01:38:12.560
they created the creature, but they became whole franchise a

1620
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:15.920
Species one all through Species three. She also showed up

1621
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:19.560
in genre legend John Carpenter's.

1622
01:38:19.039 --> 01:38:21.439
Ghosts of Mars as well.

1623
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:26.359
So happy birthday to Natasha Henstridge, and I am delighted

1624
01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:28.800
to be able to wish happy birthday to the legendary

1625
01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:34.479
Julie Newmarkay, who we honor from Star Trek for her

1626
01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:41.720
involvement as the the person responsible for Leonnard McCoy saying

1627
01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:45.760
I'm not an escalator, dammit. Where she was the pregnant

1628
01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:50.000
La Een, the wife of tyr Akar in the famous

1629
01:38:50.039 --> 01:38:53.640
second season episode Friday's Child, where she was really really great,

1630
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:59.640
very cantankerous in that episode, really really great and challenging role.

1631
01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:03.279
I'm just very committed to her work. She was a

1632
01:39:03.279 --> 01:39:10.119
famous dancer and very legendary icon status. Well for one thing,

1633
01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:14.359
she had a movie named after Chuwangfu And thanks for everything,

1634
01:39:14.439 --> 01:39:16.720
Julie Numar. I mean referencing her right because she's such

1635
01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:21.239
a cult icon because of her tremendous enduring work as

1636
01:39:21.720 --> 01:39:27.840
the legendary Catwoman in the first two seasons of the

1637
01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:31.800
Adam West Batman series right before other actresses took it over,

1638
01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:32.520
but she.

1639
01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:34.039
Was just great, I mean amazing.

1640
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:37.560
She's still out there, aged ninety two at her most

1641
01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:42.000
recent birthday this last week, and very outspoken. Champions a

1642
01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:44.680
lot of different causes. Sharp is a freaking tack.

1643
01:39:45.399 --> 01:39:46.960
And if you.

1644
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:52.279
Want to know get a sense of why Julie Newmar

1645
01:39:52.359 --> 01:39:55.600
is such a beloved icon beyond Catwoman, check out her

1646
01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:59.680
appearance in the nineteen fifty nine musical of Little Abner

1647
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:02.840
based on the comic series, where she plays a character

1648
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:06.960
called Stupefying Jones. And I'll just leave that for you

1649
01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:10.119
in research and discover in your own time. But yeah,

1650
01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:12.359
talk about indelible impressions.

1651
01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:13.760
That is one.

1652
01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:18.359
So happy birthday legend. We love you, Julia lama Are.

1653
01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:19.079
You're amazing.

1654
01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:21.039
And here's another count.

1655
01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:27.319
I'm really fond of the tremendous Christian Slater Okay, absolutely wonderful.

1656
01:40:28.439 --> 01:40:28.960
Performer.

1657
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:32.760
Made a cameo as the night duty officer in Star

1658
01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:38.560
Trek six The Undiscovered Country. He petitioned his relatives and

1659
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.000
casting director of Friends to get him on.

1660
01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:43.920
Just give me anything. I love Star Trek so much,

1661
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:45.279
Gilding and on there.

1662
01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:47.720
He would take anything, And they basically wrote that part

1663
01:40:47.760 --> 01:40:50.520
because he just wouldn't shut up. He was just bustering

1664
01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:54.560
them where. He's a huge, huge Star Trek fan and

1665
01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:57.800
absolutely amazing. So Star Trek six is the undiscovered country

1666
01:40:59.159 --> 01:41:00.199
Captain schul Up.

1667
01:41:00.199 --> 01:41:02.399
Sure, he's great.

1668
01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:04.920
Made his feature debut in the Legend of Billy Gene,

1669
01:41:05.600 --> 01:41:10.960
of course, burst into a cult status with the Monoda

1670
01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:14.560
Rider picture Heather's which just really took on a life

1671
01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:15.079
of its own.

1672
01:41:15.079 --> 01:41:15.640
There.

1673
01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:18.960
I'm a huge fan of this cat though, because of

1674
01:41:19.039 --> 01:41:23.119
his work in the great Tony Scott's.

1675
01:41:22.359 --> 01:41:27.119
Movie True Romance. True Romance.

1676
01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:29.840
Okay, written by of course Quentin Tarantino, but it's a

1677
01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:30.840
Tony Scott picture.

1678
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:32.720
It's not a Quentin Tarantino picture, damn it.

1679
01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:36.920
Great Tony Scott doret the Death Center Gun and Christian

1680
01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:39.640
Slater just pours his whole.

1681
01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:42.000
Heart and soul into that performance. He's great.

1682
01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:44.920
If you've never seen this movie, you're out of your

1683
01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.760
mind and you should basically run to hit play as

1684
01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:50.720
soon as you can. Everybody's in their picture. I mean,

1685
01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:53.359
it's just amazing. He's in there.

1686
01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:57.199
Who else is in there? I mean, who's not in there?

1687
01:41:57.319 --> 01:41:59.960
Early Jim Gandolphini is in there right when he was

1688
01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:03.760
before he'd even done The Sopranos. Patricia Arquette of course,

1689
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:09.239
iss love interest in that picture. Christopher Walking. I mean,

1690
01:42:09.439 --> 01:42:12.680
it's just endless, Gary oldman, it's just such an amazing,

1691
01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:16.119
you know, terrifying and hilarious movie.

1692
01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:19.600
Isn't there like a Brad Pitt appearance as well?

1693
01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:22.439
Yeah, there too.

1694
01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:24.800
It's just full of cameos and great stuff. But it's

1695
01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:26.920
just if you've never seen it, it's just a knockout

1696
01:42:27.359 --> 01:42:30.359
and it's just a terrific stuff and the great Tony Scott,

1697
01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:31.760
one of the greatest filmmakers.

1698
01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:36.560
Ridley's brother, you so love.

1699
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:39.560
That's a happy Birthday, Christian Slater, Julie newmart and Hasta

1700
01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:43.800
Natasha Ali Berry.

1701
01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:44.600
Uh.

1702
01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:46.239
It's been a long week, believe me.

1703
01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:50.439
And I'm really excited for this next segment though, because frankly,

1704
01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:53.199
this is a segment that is just new to the show,

1705
01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:56.239
and Uncle Jim came up with this and it's become

1706
01:42:56.239 --> 01:42:59.079
one of my favorite, right up there with Trivia, one

1707
01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:01.479
of my favorite segments the show. But I'll like Uncle

1708
01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:03.279
Jim tell you what it is. But man, I love

1709
01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:05.439
it when he does one of these, especially this week's

1710
01:43:05.439 --> 01:43:06.800
which I'm just chomping at the bit for.

1711
01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:08.239
Take it away, Uncle Jim.

1712
01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:10.159
What have you got going on in your bag of tricks?

1713
01:43:10.319 --> 01:43:12.880
Thank you so much, Paul. Well, guys, I didn't need

1714
01:43:12.880 --> 01:43:15.199
to come up with a catchy theme song or something

1715
01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:18.159
for this one. It's time for Uncle Jim's movie pick

1716
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:21.880
of the week. And a lot of movies celebrate anniversaries

1717
01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:24.279
during the week, and I try to pick one that's relevant,

1718
01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:26.920
one that I think is cool, one that I think

1719
01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:30.720
you guys will enjoy if you haven't seen it and

1720
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:36.079
like to relive it. You have, so Eric, roll the tape.

1721
01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:39.520
I think you're making a mistake. I think you really

1722
01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:40.279
want to talk to me.

1723
01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:44.079
Sorry, I have three of their interviews to do before this.

1724
01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:44.640
Part is over.

1725
01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:47.920
Yeah, they're not working on something that will change the world,

1726
01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:51.439
as we know they say they are.

1727
01:43:53.199 --> 01:44:45.239
I'm not, man, that's how you thrailer.

1728
01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:49.880
Alright, guys, So, in case you hadn't guessed, that's the

1729
01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:55.079
fly I was released from August fifteenth, nineteen eighty six,

1730
01:44:55.359 --> 01:45:00.399
forty years ago. That's right, forty years ago. That trailer

1731
01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:03.880
still looks good today, doesn't it? Forty years ago? Directed

1732
01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:07.000
and co written by David Cronenberg. We all know who

1733
01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:13.399
he is. Yeah, you played Daniels on STARSUK Discovery. The

1734
01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:18.119
film stars Jeff Goldblum, Geena Davis, and John Gets. The

1735
01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:21.039
Fly tells them an a centric scientist who, after one

1736
01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:25.119
of his experiments goes wrong, slowly turns into a fly

1737
01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:28.920
high bred. Did you guys see The Fly when it

1738
01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:30.560
came out? Did you go to the theater? Did you

1739
01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:34.520
catch it on VHS? What do you think? I? In fact,

1740
01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:38.319
there was a second movie, The Fly, too, as well.

1741
01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:43.680
This movie's creepy. I remember the original one of the

1742
01:45:43.720 --> 01:45:59.039
little flies in the spider webs, going guy.

1743
01:45:52.800 --> 01:45:56.159
One that said he or.

1744
01:45:56.159 --> 01:46:00.680
Something that's incredible shrinking man, isn't it something?

1745
01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:01.239
Yeah?

1746
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:02.079
It might be the.

1747
01:46:02.079 --> 01:46:06.520
Original Fly with David Hedison too. Yeah, because the Spider's web.

1748
01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:08.640
You're right, You're right, it's the original where he's like

1749
01:46:08.920 --> 01:46:10.840
he's in the spider's web at the end. Yeah, it's

1750
01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:12.600
just all fucked up. Yeah, it's just great.

1751
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:14.880
I saw this picture when I was living in New York.

1752
01:46:16.159 --> 01:46:18.399
A lot of great movies came out that summer, right,

1753
01:46:18.479 --> 01:46:21.560
I mean like Aliens came out, Big Trouble, a Little

1754
01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:24.199
China came out right, and I was all excited because

1755
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:27.039
last time, David Cronenberg was starting to.

1756
01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.319
Do these you know more you know, commercial pictures.

1757
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:30.560
Right.

1758
01:46:30.680 --> 01:46:35.199
He'd done The Dead Zone, the Stephen King movie, which

1759
01:46:35.239 --> 01:46:38.159
was amazing, right, and then here comes this shit. And

1760
01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.520
this movie was just nuts. I will never forget. There's

1761
01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:43.680
a few scenes in here in particular, especially one with

1762
01:46:43.760 --> 01:46:48.479
like John Getz, where the audience just flit that okay

1763
01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:51.560
because the violence was you know, David Cronenberg doesn't pull

1764
01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:55.199
his punches, and he just it was just so intense

1765
01:46:55.319 --> 01:46:58.520
and the audience just went bananas, right, they went crazy.

1766
01:46:58.800 --> 01:47:04.119
This is early you know. I think Goldblum done the

1767
01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:05.319
Big Chill and that is about it.

1768
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:05.560
Right.

1769
01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:07.159
He hadn't really done too much yet. He wasn't a

1770
01:47:07.199 --> 01:47:10.239
big star like you know after Jurassic Park and stuff.

1771
01:47:10.279 --> 01:47:11.640
But it's a terrific movie.

1772
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:12.239
Man.

1773
01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:15.920
That trailer, like Uncle Jim said, it's just cut so well,

1774
01:47:16.039 --> 01:47:18.920
it's just great. But it's a tremendous movie to see

1775
01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:21.239
in an audience with a with you know, in a theater.

1776
01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:28.439
It's strong stuff. Yeah, if you haven't seen The Fly

1777
01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:32.479
in a while, blow the dust off your VHS tape

1778
01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:35.680
and op it into your player and watch it. If

1779
01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:39.239
you're young enough where you've never seen the Fly because

1780
01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:42.039
you weren't born yet. What are you waiting for? Run

1781
01:47:42.119 --> 01:47:44.920
out and check it out. It's a great movie. It

1782
01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:48.279
won't disappoint you. All Right. That wraps up our Star

1783
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:51.000
Trek birthdays and Uncle Jim's movie pick of the week.

1784
01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:56.199
And now it's time for Star Trek news.

1785
01:47:57.720 --> 01:48:04.359
Yay, Star Trek. Yeah, there we go. Wait, hold on,

1786
01:48:05.399 --> 01:48:10.079
I didn't Oh my god, this is what you guys?

1787
01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:16.239
Uh, here we go? Share, no, share the video with

1788
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:21.239
the sound. Yeah, there we go, and what we take

1789
01:48:21.239 --> 01:48:21.560
you see this?

1790
01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:26.960
Boom boom boom boom. That's right, you're reliving, reliving the.

1791
01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:32.760
Entire saying that, like if you wanted to.

1792
01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:39.039
Remember what was happening here, now is the time to remember. Okay,

1793
01:48:39.199 --> 01:48:43.079
here we go. Yeah, thank you for going on that

1794
01:48:43.159 --> 01:49:04.920
journey with me. Here we are, Yeah, Jim, I mean,

1795
01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:09.079
you know, so I'm one of those people who who like,

1796
01:49:09.359 --> 01:49:14.359
during a karaoke song that has a very long solo,

1797
01:49:14.920 --> 01:49:18.079
can vamp and can actually you know, make sure that

1798
01:49:18.119 --> 01:49:22.039
the audience stays engaged while you're you know, listening to

1799
01:49:22.079 --> 01:49:25.520
the karaoke song. So, at any rate, thank you for

1800
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:26.800
going on that journey with me.

1801
01:49:28.359 --> 01:49:31.000
Well, this is our Star Trek news segment. You can

1802
01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:33.600
find all of these stories in their entirety instead of

1803
01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:37.199
the Uncle Jim's edited version on our Facebook page. And

1804
01:49:37.239 --> 01:49:41.000
we're starting off as we usually do with Shatner says,

1805
01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:43.199
what take it away? Eric all Right?

1806
01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:48.079
Cancer changed Star Trek's William Shatner, who is ninety five,

1807
01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:53.479
who quote never thought about dying Like triples, the enduring

1808
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:58.239
fascination with TV Star Trek seems to be multiply without end.

1809
01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:03.119
As creator Gene Rod Mary's groundbreaking series approaches the sixtieth

1810
01:50:03.159 --> 01:50:07.439
anniversary of its premiere on September eighth, nineteen sixty six.

1811
01:50:07.920 --> 01:50:11.920
Shatner remains fascinated by the amazing journey of the original

1812
01:50:11.960 --> 01:50:16.159
show that lasted just three seasons before NBC canceled it,

1813
01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:22.159
yet turned Shatner's captain into a global icon. He said,

1814
01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:25.479
the show gets canceled, I worked diligently for six years,

1815
01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:28.560
and I hear they're going to resurrect it because syndication

1816
01:50:28.760 --> 01:50:33.279
was invented, Shatner says, everyone becomes enamored Star Trek was

1817
01:50:33.399 --> 01:50:38.000
invented again. Star Trek says his joy was tempered by

1818
01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:42.520
the lack of cash flowing with the new success. He

1819
01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:47.279
said the unions had not discovered syndication fees. I received

1820
01:50:47.319 --> 01:50:52.159
no money and became famously poor. At age ninety, Shatner

1821
01:50:52.199 --> 01:50:54.600
became the oldest person to fly to space as a

1822
01:50:54.640 --> 01:51:00.000
passenger aboard Blue Origins New Shepherd in October of twenty two,

1823
01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:03.560
twenty one. He said, I weep more so than ever.

1824
01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:07.640
We're destroying the Earth, and this planet has such beauty

1825
01:51:07.680 --> 01:51:11.319
and miracles. I'm passionate about what we've done to the planet.

1826
01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:14.920
The actor says he was profoundly affected by his own

1827
01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:18.720
fight for survival after being diagnosed with stage four malignant

1828
01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:23.039
melanoma in June twenty twenty three. The emotional weight of

1829
01:51:23.079 --> 01:51:28.479
Shatner's own diagnosis was compounded by another devastating reality. His

1830
01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:32.479
youngest daughter, Melanie Shatner Gretch, now sixty two, has been

1831
01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:37.800
battling stage four breast cancer since twenty twenty two. Father

1832
01:51:37.880 --> 01:51:41.039
and daughter suddenly found themselves fighting cancer at the same time.

1833
01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:44.960
She too, was told pack your bag, You've got five

1834
01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:48.720
months at the most. Shatner says, can you imagine being

1835
01:51:48.720 --> 01:51:51.640
told you've got five months to live? I don't know

1836
01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:54.640
what your motivations are or what you'd want to do first,

1837
01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:57.640
but to be told you've only got five months to live,

1838
01:51:58.159 --> 01:52:00.319
and part of that time you're going to be very ill.

1839
01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:03.640
What are you gonna do? So it was for the

1840
01:52:03.640 --> 01:52:07.560
two of us. Though Shatner's melanoma spread to his lungs

1841
01:52:07.560 --> 01:52:10.000
and brain, he said he is now cancer free after

1842
01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:15.399
surgery in two years of immunotherapy. Melanie two is cancer

1843
01:52:15.439 --> 01:52:20.720
free after chemotherapy, a double mastectomy, radiation, and immunotherapy. I

1844
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:23.920
never thought about dying. I wandered and blundered through life

1845
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:27.239
thinking I'm not gonna die, Shatner says. It was like,

1846
01:52:27.640 --> 01:52:30.399
of course, I'm going to get this job. I'm going

1847
01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:33.840
to drive up to a popular restaurant and somebody pulls

1848
01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:37.560
out of a space and I park. It's like the

1849
01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:41.319
universe was taking care of me on a minutia scale,

1850
01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:44.880
as seen by the incredible luck I've had in my life.

1851
01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:50.479
That worldview has worn off like a callous he says,

1852
01:52:51.239 --> 01:52:55.039
leading to a deeper appreciation for every moment in his life,

1853
01:52:55.159 --> 01:52:57.880
right down to the buttermilk chicken he had for dinner

1854
01:52:57.920 --> 01:53:02.319
the evening before. The fear is still there when asked

1855
01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:07.119
to name a passion that has heightened with age, Shattner's sites.

1856
01:53:07.399 --> 01:53:11.640
Staying alive, not dying. That's always a good thing, he says,

1857
01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:14.680
I'm always anxious about that. I've thought about dying a

1858
01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:18.960
lock a lot. The Star Trek legend insists he's not

1859
01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:21.920
concerned about his legacy after he has left Earth for

1860
01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:25.279
the Final Frontier. Legacy is not a word I recognize.

1861
01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:29.319
Statues are torn down, buildings with people's names on them, eroad.

1862
01:53:30.319 --> 01:53:33.840
The world is in constant change. The only legacy I

1863
01:53:33.960 --> 01:53:38.239
recognize is doing good. I'm a human with my terrible faults,

1864
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:44.520
but I'm an admirer of good deeds. Yeah, all right,

1865
01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:49.520
Thanks Bill. We appreciate that. You know, the fact that

1866
01:53:49.640 --> 01:53:54.399
you were able to share experiences with your daughter and

1867
01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:56.560
sort of recover at the same time. I think that

1868
01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:59.640
is actually really, really special. It's not a thing that

1869
01:53:59.680 --> 01:54:02.880
people like to or get to do a lot in

1870
01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:09.199
their lives. And the lack of your of any respect

1871
01:54:09.199 --> 01:54:12.239
for the word legacy, I think is also kind of refreshing.

1872
01:54:12.720 --> 01:54:15.840
I feel like it's something that people think an awful

1873
01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:18.439
lot about these days as they sort of pass into

1874
01:54:18.479 --> 01:54:22.640
the next world. So thanks Bill, that was a great segment.

1875
01:54:22.880 --> 01:54:23.520
Appreciate it.

1876
01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:28.319
And the article in People magazine is a lot longer

1877
01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:30.000
than that. You guys can go and check it out.

1878
01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:32.119
I just try to pick out the important part. So

1879
01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:36.520
go and read the entire article. It's really well done. Okay,

1880
01:54:36.640 --> 01:54:38.960
I've got our next story, and I think you guys

1881
01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:43.359
don't know. Why do we really need magic? The gathering

1882
01:54:43.479 --> 01:54:45.439
starts for cards and cling on and let me just

1883
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skip to the chase and say, yes, yes, we do.

1884
01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:53.159
Bring them off. Wizards of the Coast have found another

1885
01:54:53.199 --> 01:54:58.079
new way to make magic gathering cards on readable. I'm kidding,

1886
01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:00.920
of course, but only kind of. Because it turns out

1887
01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:05.039
the upcoming Star Trek set has cards written entirely in Klingon.

1888
01:55:05.560 --> 01:55:08.640
There it is on our screen right now. Card featuring

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01:55:08.680 --> 01:55:11.600
the alien alphabet was shown at Star Trek, Las Vegas.

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01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:14.640
I'm hoping Charles can track me down a copy of

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01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:18.239
this card perhaps in August ninth and quickly did the

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01:55:18.359 --> 01:55:21.800
rounds on social media. Devised by American linguist from Mark

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Coprian in the nineteen eighties, Klingon is up there with

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01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:28.039
the Middle Earth's Elvish when it comes to well realized

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01:55:28.079 --> 01:55:31.600
fictional tongues. The trekkiest of Trukers has even learned to

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01:55:31.680 --> 01:55:35.119
speak or write in the language. There's no compromises made

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for the sake of readability here, though, as even the

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01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:42.800
stat line has been translated. That's right. Not only we'll

1899
01:55:42.880 --> 01:55:46.520
have no idea what the Klingon cards abilities are, you

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won't even be able to determine their power and toughness.

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01:55:49.920 --> 01:55:51.960
It makes a certain kind of sense to have these

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01:55:52.039 --> 01:55:55.800
variants for a staple everybody already knows. We don't know

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01:55:55.800 --> 01:55:58.840
how many Klingon script cards there will be in Magic

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01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:02.159
the Gathering Star Trek, no how rare they will be.

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The one example shown so far is General Chang the

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01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:09.920
Cold Warrior, not surprisingly in Klingon, and there it is

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on the screen, and I love it. I would love

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01:56:12.239 --> 01:56:15.279
to get my hands on that card, simply because I'm

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01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:19.039
a lover of everything cling on. So yes, yes, we

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01:56:19.079 --> 01:56:22.279
need cling On cards in that jake. I hope it's

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not a chase card. I hope I'll be able to

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01:56:24.359 --> 01:56:28.880
track one down for a reasonable twice, because I'd love

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01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:31.560
to add that card to my collection just to have it.

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So all right, and v you get to wrap it all.

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Up, okay.

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A Trick movie re releases Beaming into theaters with souvenir

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popcorn buckets. This is something I'm looking forward to. I'm

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actually going to go to the movies and get a

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01:56:50.039 --> 01:56:53.960
popcorn bucket. We're not getting a new Star Trek movie

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01:56:53.960 --> 01:56:58.520
in time to celebrate the franchise's sixtieth anniversary, but some

1921
01:56:58.600 --> 01:57:02.479
of the most memorable cos episodes and films are getting

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a limited run in select theaters this September, along with

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01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:11.119
some cool collectibles. There is a planned series of re

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01:57:11.119 --> 01:57:15.560
releases of classic Star Trek movies, each paired with an

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01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:19.920
episode that relates to it directly or thematically. So far,

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01:57:20.039 --> 01:57:24.439
Cinemark and AMC Theaters have confirmed re releases of the

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01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:28.520
first four movies starring William Shatner, each build as a

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01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:33.079
double feature event. The movie pairings will each get one

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01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:36.760
evening showing on its own night, but they will also

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be shown marathon style on September eighth for anyone who'd

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01:57:41.359 --> 01:57:45.039
like to spend the day taking Trek in on the

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01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:48.279
big screen. Here are the pairings, and showtime is based

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on Cinema's website, which could vary depending on your location.

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01:57:53.159 --> 01:57:58.039
AMC has not listed showtime gets The Changeling and Star

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01:57:58.079 --> 01:58:01.840
Trek the motion picture direct cut on September fourth, in

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01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:07.079
the evening September eighth at ten thirty a m. Eastern Time,

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01:58:08.119 --> 01:58:11.680
Face Seed and Star Trek two, The Wrath of con

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01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:16.439
Director's Cut on September fifth, in the evening September eighth

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01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:21.720
at two forty pm Eastern Time, a box time, and

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01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:25.560
Star Trek three, The Search for Stock on September sixth,

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01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:29.680
in the evening September eighth at six thirty pm Eastern Time,

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01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:33.399
City on the Edge of Forever, and Star Trek four

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01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:37.680
The Voyage Home on September seventh, in the evening September

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01:58:37.720 --> 01:58:42.680
eighth at ten oh five Eastern Time. It's not only

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01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:46.760
them marching.

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The series Mission.

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01:58:51.199 --> 01:58:55.239
Televisions in the World will be released on October.

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01:58:54.800 --> 01:58:58.439
Ninth at Regal cinemas in the US.

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Crap we got I was. I was a little disappointed

1950
01:59:07.319 --> 01:59:12.239
because the best start Trek movie ever isn't there. They're

1951
01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:15.960
not playing Startrek five. I was looking forward to seeing

1952
01:59:16.000 --> 01:59:17.039
that in the theater again.

1953
01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:20.359
But maybe there's a reason for that, Jim, I'm not sure.

1954
01:59:20.439 --> 01:59:22.840
Yeah, well, according to my local lookups, yeah, you can

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01:59:22.840 --> 01:59:24.680
see it, and it's on a double bill with section

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01:59:24.760 --> 01:59:25.279
thirty one.

1957
01:59:25.479 --> 01:59:29.239
I wonder what the commonality is where do they hear

1958
01:59:29.359 --> 01:59:32.000
those two together? That would be so cool.

1959
01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:35.680
Yeah, I know what's up with that, but apparently there's

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01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:37.800
if you know, I don't know, do your own math.

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I don't know. Well that wraps up the show, and

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I think Lieutenant Ortagas did an excellent job running the board,

1963
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so thank you. So I want to say thank you

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to Lieutenant Ortagas for being the miracle worker tonight and

1965
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joining us on the podcast.

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Thank you, Eric, it's been a good time.

1967
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Thank you, and of course thank you to all for

1968
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hanging out in shruck talking with us as well tonight.

1969
02:00:02.560 --> 02:00:05.199
Thank you, Paul. I had a good time, man, it

1970
02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:09.199
was fun. I enjoyed it very much. A lot of yak,

1971
02:00:09.800 --> 02:00:14.199
a lot of thoughts like we like that. Thank you

1972
02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:16.439
Charles for hanging out in shruck talking with us as well.

1973
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Thank you, Charles.

1974
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Always fun.

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And thank you of course to v who has vanished

1976
02:00:24.399 --> 02:00:26.359
from my screen. I don't know if she's close, but

1977
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thank you so much for me. Okay, with that, guys,

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it's time to wrap up another show. I mean we'll

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actually host Uncle Jon saying haling frequencies, our clothes and

1980
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remember Star Trek fans are the best fans, stay safe

1981
02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:43.920
and be good to each other. Good Night everyone, Noel.

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Civ long and prosper.

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Oh Eric to number one, You're the captain, Captain, ready

1984
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for war, Sir,