Aug. 31, 2026

Episode 696- Transporter Mishaps and Puppet Adventures

Episode 696- Transporter Mishaps and Puppet Adventures
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In this episode, Uncle Jim nad the hosts engage in a lively discussion about the latest Star Trek: Strange New Worlds episode, focusing on its humorous elements and the integration of Muppet-style puppetry. They share fan shout-outs, poll results, and personal reflections on their favorite characters, while also analyzing the episode's themes and viewer reactions. In this episode review, the hosts discuss their favorite characters and puppet designs from the latest Star Trek episode featuring Muppets. They share their scores and reactions, exploring themes of humor, writing quality, and character development. The conversation highlights contrasting perspectives on the episode's effectiveness, with some hosts enjoying the playful tone while others critique the writing and overall execution. The discussion culminates in a reflection on the episode's impact and the fans' reception. In this episode, the hosts discuss the importance of Muppet merchandise, celebrate various sci-fi birthdays, and pay tribute to iconic actors who have passed away. They also delve into Uncle Jim's movie of the week, 'American Werewolf in London,' and provide updates on the latest Star Trek news, including a puppet episode from 'Strange New Worlds.'

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Well, good evening, Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe. It's Thursday,

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August 27th, 2026. Welcome to episode 696. I'm your most

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excellent host, Uncle Jim. Before we go too far, I'd

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like to go around and introduce my awesome Treksports. We'll

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start off with David. David's out in Portland. He's our

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miracle worker. How you doing, David?

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I tried to Muppetize myself. I really did, but it

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didn't work, so hi.

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That's okay. And also from Portland, we have our assistant engineer,

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our Pelley. No? No, Pelley is the engineer, so you

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would be our Scotty from Portland. Eric, how are you

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doing tonight, Eric?

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I am doing okay, man. It is fun to be

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back and to have David actually running the knobs and switches.

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That means that I just get to do what I

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normally like to do, which is sit in the balcony

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like a Stadler and Waldorf and complain about things. Much

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more appropriate role for me.

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And you do it so well.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. And also from Portland, we have the toy guy, Paul.

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How are you doing tonight, Paul? I'm doing well, Uncle Jim.

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Glad to be here.

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Excited for our conversation and for the fact that it

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is finally turning the corner. It's almost, you can just

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about smell fall and autumn in the air and leaving

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this imposter of summer nonsense behind us. And so I'm

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very happy about that. Bring on the cold weather. Bring

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on the autumnal flavors. Bring it all on right now.

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It's here.

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It's coming. It's on its way. Good. And we're going

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to swing out to Las Vegas, and we're going to

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say hello to Charles. How are you doing tonight, Charles?

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I'm doing good, Paul. I agree.

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Yeah, I would love to see temperatures actually in the 90s,

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not the 100s, which we might actually see some 90s

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next week, we hope. but we're still sweating over here

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for a few more days. This heat wave's got to

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break somewhere. And for those fans that don't get to

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see the live video, yes, that is a picture of

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the Muppet Studio backstage studio behind me.

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Well.

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We want to swing out to Virginia and say hello

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to our very own V. How are you doing tonight, V?

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Welcome to the show.

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I'm glad to be here. I, too, am looking towards

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having autumnal weather. I'd just be happy if it would

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drop below, you know, 90, be in the 70s or 60s.

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That would be lovely.

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Well, we're all going to get our wish very, very soon.

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Don't you worry about that. So before we go too far,

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I want to let you guys know to head over

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to Trektalking.com. You can find all of our podcasts there

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and all kinds of fun stuff. There's a couple of

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ways you can help support the podcast. One, you can

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be a subscriber. Go to our Trektalking page and just subscribe.

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99 cents a month and you get to see all

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these awesome videos that David puts together for us. Okay.

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You can also find us on YouTube as well. Tonight

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we're going to talk about Strings of the World Season

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4 Episode 5. Level 5 Transporter Accident. It's going to

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be a lot of fun. We also have our fan shoutouts.

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That's where we go around the globe and we thank

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fans just like you for listening to us. And what

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actor do you share a birthday with? Find out on

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our Sci-Fi Birthdays. And of course we have Uncle Jim's

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Movie Pick of the Week. And I think you're going

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to enjoy this one. I know I did. And what's

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going on around the Star Trek universe? Unfortunately, we lost

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Tim Curry just the other day. And we're going to

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talk a little bit about that. And what's up with

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that ending of tonight's episode? And could there be a

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Muppet spinoff in the works? You'll have to hang around

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to find out on Star Trek News. And now, as always,

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we're going to start off the podcast with our fan shout-outs. So, Eric,

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you ready to get us started? You don't have to

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push any buttons this time. It's just going to happen automatically.

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I'm so ready. I feel like we need to have

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somebody just saying, fan shoutouts really loud, you know, as

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the kind of intro song.

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That would be great.

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Yeah, maybe we'll do that.

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Who was that crazy Muppet guy that ran around? Was

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it Gonzo? The guy with the crazy hair that ran

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around yelling all the time? Was it Crazy Harry?

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I don't remember. I can picture him, but I can't

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think of his name.

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He was a nut.

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Yeah, and then he'd blow up everything.

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Yeah, that's right. Crazy Harry. Crazy Harry, there we go. Okay,

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Crazy Harry. Well, I'm sure that none of our listeners

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here are Crazy Harrys, but who knows? We are going

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to start shouting them out, though. We're going to say

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hello this week to Lertio Nunez from Sao Bernardo do

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Campo in Sao Paulo, Brazil. And I'm sorry that I

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massacred where exactly you are from. So Sao Bernardo do Campo.

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That's better. But Sao Paulo, Brazil sounds like a lovely place.

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I would love to visit there. Thank you so much

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for saying hello to us this week. I'd also like

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to extend our greetings to Katarina Derkanska, who's a Star

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Trek fan from Slovakia, whose TV hero is Jean-Luc Picard.

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And Katarina sends us a Slovakian flag as well as

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three thumbs ups. Yeah, we're all about Jean-Luc Picard here. Thanks, Katarina,

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for sharing your love of him and of our podcast.

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I'd like to say hello this week to Gabor Mestin,

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a top fan from Budapest.

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Hungary.

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I have not been there, but my wife was just there,

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and I did not understand that there are two places,

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Buda and Pest. It blew my mind when I learned. Anyway, thanks, Gabor,

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for being a top fan. That means you interact with

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us a ton on our Facebook page. We really appreciate

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that support. And last but not least on my list,

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I would like to say hello to Timothy Gopal, who

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is saying hello to us from Trinidad and Tobago. I

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never know whether to say Tobago and Tobago. Paul always

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says Tobago. I've heard other people say Tobago. It's one

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of those two. But anyway, that very tiny island in

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the middle of a very big ocean looks like a

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scary place for me to live, but it also looks

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like a beautiful place. And I'm sure, Timothy, that is

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why you love living there. I see your beautiful flag,

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your rock and roll hand, and your Vulcan salute. Thanks

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for saying hello to us. V, who would you like

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to say hello to and shout out this week?

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Well, I'd like to first say hello to Nestor Mondock,

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a trekker from Anaheim, California. And then underneath it says,

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I should have looked up what these meant, but anyway,

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Pinoy Camaro American. Next, hello to Olivier Guihul from Montreal, Canada,

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in the Live Long and Prosper sign. And Canada, this.

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Trekker loves you. We love our neighbor to the north. Anyway.

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And by the way, Oliver, you can listen and watch

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the Trek talking all you want, and I promise you,

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we will not charge you a tariff. So... Yeah. We'll

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rename any of your stuff. I know, right?

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We didn't vote for that garbage, okay? So, anyway. Next

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hello goes out to Eric Lara Frederick, who says, I

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am from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico. And last but not least,

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hello to Karen Bynum from Tacoma, Washington. All right. Throwing the, whatever,

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the megaphone over to Charles.

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Thank you, V. Hey, Karen, I'm heading your direction. I'll

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be up in Federal next weekend. Keep the nice weather going.

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I'm going to start off with a warm welcome to

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John Hancock, who's a top fan from here in Las Vegas.

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I don't recognize John, but I'm hoping he belongs to

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one of the ships out here. Welcome to Bobby Lee

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Cassie from Kentucky.

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Welcome, Martin.

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Izta from Surprise, Arizona. Yes, I know where Surprise is. Yes,

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it is a dry heat, and we do love to bake.

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I know how you feel, Martin. We're baking up here

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in Vegas, too. And last one on my list is

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Philip Sesescle from Columbus, Ohio. Welcome. I'll say Pat's megaphone

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over to Paul.

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Thank you, Charles.

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Well, you know, Kentucky, Ohio, they're all great places. But

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as we always like to point out, there are science.

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Fiction and Star Trek fans all over the freaking planet,

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as we're about to prove.

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And let's head back over the main continent.

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Here to Germany, to Zwickau, Saxony, where a lot of

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our history comes from.

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To Dana Ludwig over there in Saxony. Great to hear

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from you, Dana. Thanks for chiming in and saying hello.

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over there where you've.

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Got to really have a really heavy coat if you're

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going to survive the winter. Let me tell you, because

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Sofia Nerovnaya is going to be able to confirm that,

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because Sofia is in St. Petersburg, Russia, where it gets

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freaking cold.

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Crazy, crazy below zero cold over there. So sending good

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thoughts your way, Sofia. Where it's a little bit warmer.

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and land of the famous shroud.

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We're going to Turin, Italy for Massimo Rottura is saying

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hello to us.

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I would love to visit Italy sometime very, very soon.

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And a continent away, we'll go over to Ecuador to

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Mario Rafael Teran who's saying hello.

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So see, look at this. Ecuador, Russia, Italy, Germany. There's just,

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people love science fiction.

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Everywhere because it is a form of storytelling that fires

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the imagination. And that's a universal human Wouldn't you say

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that's true, Uncle Jim?

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I would agree completely. And even in New Jersey, where

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you can't get there from here, is on every street corner.

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Speaking of which, we want to say hello to Shannon Williams,

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who's a top fan from New Jersey. We also want

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to say hello and welcome to Carl Robbins-Rusher, who's listening

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to us in New York. Also, Jamie Freeman Upton, who says,

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I'm from southeast Louisiana, 60 miles north of New Orleans. Well,

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thank you for being a fan and listening, Jamie. And

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last but not least on my fan shout-out list, we

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want to say hello and thank you to Richard Graham,

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who's in Tallahassee, Florida right now. Thank you so much, everybody.

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If you would like to be featured on a fan shout-out, please.

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It's very simple. Head over to our Facebook page, Trek

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Talking and Beyond. Look for the Live Long and Prosper,

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which is pinned to the top of the page. Tell

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us where you're from. Leave some emojis. It gets my attention.

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If you see a heart next to your name, that

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means you will be featured in a fan shout-out. And

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that's all the fan shout-outs. And we do have a poll.

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to go over this week, which is very relevant to

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what we're going to talk about. So take it away, David.

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Tell us just what you think.

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Get together, we will all dream.

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Kadar and Romulan, a whole time.

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God, I just love that video.

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Me too, me too.

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On our Facebook page, while you're there telling us where

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you're from for your fan shout out, I like to

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throw out questions and polls all the time. And we

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always go over them here on the podcast because fans

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are very important to us because we're fans too. So, Eric,

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what was the question and what did our fans have

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to say?

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Well, it's kind of weird how this week's poll really

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plugs into the show that we're going to review. Nicely

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done there, Jim. The question was, did you watch The

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Muppet Show growing up? And 90% of our responders said yes,

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they did watch The Muppet Show, and 10% said no.

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And I think that that solidly shows you that Facebook

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is used mostly by people over 50. Yes.

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The 10% probably weren't born when The Muppet Show was on.

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I watched it when it first premiered. I watched it

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because I watched Sesame Street. So I knew the Muppets

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from that. I knew Kermit from Sesame Street. So, yep,

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I've been there since the beginning.

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I mean, I definitely watched it at some point in

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my life on a regular basis when I was coming out.

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The Donzo was Darth Vader? Yeah. Oh, they're just brilliant.

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Just brilliant.

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lot of people grew up with The Muppet Show or

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have watched it since on the internet or through a

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streaming service. Of course, there's the movies, you know, and

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there was a newer show, The Muppet Now Show, that

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came out a few years ago. So all sorts of

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good iterations of Muppets out there.

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Fraggle Rock, a Muppet production as well.

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Yeah, Jim Henson.

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Was that a Jim Henson?

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Fraggle Rock.

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Fraggle Rock.

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What else? He did the... What else did they do?

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The Labyrinth?

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He did Labyrinth. Yeah, Labyrinth and Dark Crystal.

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Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, and all those things are handsome productions.

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Those are handsome as well. So, lots to tie into

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this week's episode as well. Okay, so that's our poll

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for this week. And now we're going to dive right

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into Charles' favorite segment, Cadet Training.

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Thank you, Jim. Cadet training!

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Oh, sorry.

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I thought that was part of the video.

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Cadet training!

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When you still.

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Haven't got out of Starfleet and your ass is still green,

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cadet training!

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You don't know shit.

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I was kidding.

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I hope we have that on tape.

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We're going to reuse that. Alright.

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Well, cadet training is Talk about how we can tie

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this episode into other episodes. And this one I'm going

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to go a little fast, because I've got quite a

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few of them in here. One I will throw off

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immediately is Star Trek II, Wrath of Khan. Of course,

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we have the famous Spock death scene in there. Now,

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the big trope that people talk about this week were

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transporter accidents.

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And you wonder, well, did Star Trek ever use transporter accidents?

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Well, let me take a little speed through some of

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the transporter incidents we had.

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Death.

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Enterprise Delayless. Or the motion picture. Reverse Aging.

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TNG's Rascals. Foreign Object Contamination. Enterprise Strange New Worlds. Transporter Psychosis. TNG,

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Realm of Fear. Phasing. Lower Decks, Much Ado But Boimler.

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The Ying Yang Effect. TOS, The Enemy Within. Splitting one

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ending into two identical entities. TNG, Second Chances. Lower Decks, Kayshaun,

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His Eyes Open. Multiple entities merge into one.

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Voyagers, Tuvix. Time Travel.

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TOS Mirror Mirror, DS9 Crossover, and also DS9 Little Green Men.

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About the only one that I didn't find had any

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transporter incidences in the memory alpha I was looking at

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was Discovery. But just about every series has had some

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kind of transporter incident. So I think it was quite

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easy that Strange New World needed one too. And I

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think Paul probably would love to talk about what happened

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in this episode.

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Thanks, Charles.

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Well, you know, before we get in and all of

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us weigh in and find out what the fans thought,

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we like to sort of kind of And it's been

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a few days, a week for some of us, and

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it's really good to kind of just do a quick

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recap of the episode that we're going to talk about.

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So with this, this is season four, episode number five,

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which means we are exactly halfway through this fourth season

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of Star Trek Strange New Worlds. We are at the

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equator with episode five, level five, Transporter Accident. And the

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exciting incident of this particular episode is While Spock is

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away in a shuttle placing navigational buoys, Scotty tries to

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competitively beam his childhood puppet, Little Ricky, across this vast distance.

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But there's a catastrophic malfunction. that somehow fuses the puppet's

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pattern with the entire crew of the ship. And this

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transporter mishap turns Pike, La'an, Chappell, Mabenga, and pretty much

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the entire rest of the crew, except for Spock, who

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is not on board, into these felt and foam puppets,

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as you see here. Spock returns to the ship and

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he's completely overwhelmed because he's the one flesh and blood

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person here who can really operate things and do things.

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And he pretty much has to run the entire ship

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solo and try to maintain a grasp of his logic

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while dealing with an ever more absurd crew of barely

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functional puppets. Things escalate a bit more when this very

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opportunistic Orion pirate ship arrives and attempts to hijack the

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vulnerable Enterprise. So embracing their hilariously new limitations, including some life-defying,

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life-threatening situations about spacewalks and opening doors and oxygen and such,

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the puppet crew uses some unorthodox tactics towards the end

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to finally retake the Enterprise. Scotty figures out a reversal,

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and we find a scene towards the end where Spock

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is sharing kind of a tender little moment with a

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to-pring puppet, to-puppet, I guess you could call it, until.

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A sudden reveal tells.

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Us, and I've never seen this before, that Spock is

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actually waking up next to the real to-pring, and that

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this entire chaotic, fantastical adventure was just a stress-induced dream

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that grew out of Spock's ongoing struggles with logic, hallucinations,

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and his own personal So that's basically kind of a

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quick recap there. I'm sure other techsperts will have different

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highlights and things in the episode they want to point

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out that occurred. But that's just kind of setting the

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stage there for the main plot points from that particular episode.

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I'll be back later on to weigh in and give

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you my score for the episode. But in the meantime,

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before we get started with the techsperts, it's always more

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important to know what did the Vox Populi do?

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I have to say, meaning the fans themselves. And of course,

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now that Eric's proven for us, these responses are all

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going to be from people over 50, right?

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So we know that there's a lot of fiber going on.

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A lot of fiber happening in these various reviews. So

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we'll find out if there's a trend here. Eric, would

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you be so kind as to regale us through the swamps?

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I absolutely will. I'm going to start this week with

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Dan Seo, a top fan who said, I give this

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a 9. A Star Trek episode done with the Henson Company?

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I'm here for it. It was a fun episode, lots

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of humor. I rank it with The Trouble with Tribbles. Hilarious,

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but somewhat inconsequential. Wes Huntington gave it a 10 with

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an exclamation point. This episode was funny, definitely needed for

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this stressful world we all live in. The episode doesn't

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stick the landing. But all in all, I enjoyed the episode.

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Thanks, Wes.

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Stephen Arthur DeShong, a Rising fan, said the original Star

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Trek never took themselves seriously. The fact that it was

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all a dream made it fun. Don't forget Tribbles and

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Abraham Lincoln floating in space, lol. I give it a 9. Remember,

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it's Star Trek, not wars. Amy Wright Teske, give it

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a 10! Exclamation point. So much fun. and great Easter

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egg callbacks. Thank you. Dario Petovara said, one, if I

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wanted to watch the Muppets, I would watch the Muppet Show,

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not Star Trek. Face palm emoji. Jeff Millwood said, I

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didn't like the fact that it was a dream, but

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I'd give it a nine easily. But I never knew

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I needed a puppet episode until last night. Puppet Pike

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still had perfect hair. Lots and lots of emojis after that.

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Thanks, Jeff.

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Liz Telly said going down in Star Trek fandom as

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an either you love it or hate it episode I

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love it even with the ending not I love all

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these caveats for the night it's must have a weird

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ending or something Mark Maple it was not I was

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not expecting much but the end of the episode did

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tie it together it was better than a stoner episode

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I did turn out liking it gave it an 8

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thanks Mark Marcelo Carvalho said, a solid two. A nice

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waste of good energy. A few laughs and so many

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more rolling eyes. For a Star Trek parody, I'd say

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it was almost fun. Exclamation point. And all of a sudden,

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Spock's brain became a Shakespearean masterpiece. Thanks, Marcelo. Christopher Colgrove

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also gave it a two, only because it was a dream.

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If it wouldn't have been, then a zero. So actually,

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a dream made it better. Give us back season one,

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he says. Tim Claudefelter gave it a 7.5. Fun, mostly pointless,

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but it actually gives us some solid spot development, and

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it upsets a lot of uptight whiners with his opponents.

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I mean, you know, poke the bear, Tim.

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Poke the bear.

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And then James Christopher Blackwell said, I give it a 9.

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It was funny and cute. And last but not least,

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Rob McCaffrey said 10. A great collaboration with Henson. I

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enjoy the science of Star Trek, so I was relieved

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when Spock woke up from his dream since I found

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the transporter accident slash Muppet transformation theory a tad implausible.

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There's actually precedent for it, Rob. We're going to talk

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about that tonight during my part of the review, I believe.

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Which gives us a combined fan score this week of 7.5.

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So, like, a very.

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Extremely respectful score, right? Respectful, also respectful. Respectable, but also

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respectful score.

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All right, so we've heard from the fans. So let's

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hear from our truck sports. David, what do you say?

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David's got a little tape to play for you guys, hopefully.

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Oh, you wanted the video.

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Yes.

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All right, video incoming.

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Here it is.

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It's time to prime the warp core. It's time to

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see the sights. It's time to start the show on

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the Enterprise tonight. Gluing up my starship, despite losing some height.

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It's time to meet the crew on the Enterprise tonight.

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All right.

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That was awesome. Oh, my God.

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The Muppet Show theme song. So I just decided, I

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just threw out a little question. By the way, David

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put together that awesome graphic that we just had up

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on the screen. Awesome, awesome job, David. And I was

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just curious to see who your favorite Muppet was. And

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I'll start with mine, Pelia. Okay, the wild, wild hair

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and the little tiny feet. How could you not love it?

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And I'll go a little bit further to say, you know,

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in my mind, they should have left her as a

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Muppet because it would have made it so much better

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because she's such an annoying character. But I found her

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as a Muppet to be more of a Muppet than

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a real-life person. So I really, really enjoyed Talia as

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a Muppet. How about you, Charles?

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I'm crossed between Pelia and Scotty. I love the hair

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on Pelia. That was just hilarious and the bare feet.

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But Scotty, just he and his glove and then having

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a hole blasted in the center of him, just....

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Ah, Scotty was fun.

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How about you, Eric? Well, I, you know... don't know

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man i guess i guess it was kind of a

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toss-up for me between like i love the way pike

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looked i didn't like some of the stuff that they

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wrote for the pike character but i like the way

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pike looked quite a bit i also really liked how

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uh to bring looked like her vulcan expressions i thought

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were were fantastic so i don't know one of those

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two would probably be my favorite what about you.

469
00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:52.210
David I would have to go with Pelia all the way.

470
00:28:52.230 --> 00:28:56.089
Just the movement they did. It seems like she had

471
00:28:56.130 --> 00:28:58.490
the most movement of all the other puppets, so I

472
00:28:58.630 --> 00:29:02.579
actually like the way that they did her character a lot,

473
00:29:02.819 --> 00:29:05.980
and the hair was just like spaghetti noodles. But I

474
00:29:06.019 --> 00:29:07.559
have to agree with you, Jim. I think she would

475
00:29:07.579 --> 00:29:10.839
have probably been better off as a puppet than a

476
00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:12.819
real-life character if they would have just kept her as

477
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:13.819
a puppet.

478
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.619
So was it established that she walks around the ship barefoot?

479
00:29:18.779 --> 00:29:19.539
I didn't remember that.

480
00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:25.109
I think Lanthanite, because what's her name? Holly Hunter? I

481
00:29:26.390 --> 00:29:29.900
can't think of her name now. In Starfleet Academy, she

482
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.740
had a tendency to go to a Lanthanite thing.

483
00:29:36.259 --> 00:29:37.420
Oh, okay.

484
00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:39.299
Might be. You're right.

485
00:29:41.329 --> 00:29:43.579
That seems like pure headcanon to me, V. I don't

486
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.420
think that we've ever established that that's a Lanthanite thing, really.

487
00:29:46.700 --> 00:29:49.720
Just because she's a character, it's a bit of a reach.

488
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.890
But, I mean, why not? Why not? One theory is

489
00:29:54.950 --> 00:29:55.410
as good as another.

490
00:29:55.430 --> 00:29:55.849
Could be true, sure.

491
00:29:56.660 --> 00:29:58.579
But yeah, it was a little odd. It sort of

492
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.809
stuck out with no real explanation. But that's how we roll.

493
00:30:04.529 --> 00:30:07.910
Somehow she had boots to throw. So I don't know.

494
00:30:08.630 --> 00:30:11.130
Yeah. So who was your favorite, V?

495
00:30:11.190 --> 00:30:16.190
Definitely Pelia, followed by T'Pring. Because a lot of work.

496
00:30:16.750 --> 00:30:20.509
People don't realize, I don't think, the detail. Because I

497
00:30:21.029 --> 00:30:26.089
dabbled briefly in puppets. And a tremendous amount of work

498
00:30:26.710 --> 00:30:30.130
went into each and every one. And just because they're

499
00:30:30.170 --> 00:30:33.950
smaller doesn't mean it's easier to make their costumes. So

500
00:30:34.049 --> 00:30:37.269
I just appreciated all the work. But yeah, definitely Pelia

501
00:30:37.309 --> 00:30:41.170
with the hair and the gigantic eyes and the little pieces,

502
00:30:41.210 --> 00:30:42.410
the little bear feet.

503
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:48.740
And Paul, you get to bring up the caboose, buddy.

504
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.200
So we're just saying which of the characters on the episode...

505
00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:54.579
we like the most of the puppets.

506
00:30:54.660 --> 00:30:55.480
Is that what we're doing? Yeah.

507
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.359
When they created the versions of the, I really don't

508
00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:01.789
know that I have an answer for you, but, um, I,

509
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:03.960
I think that I, I appreciated what they were going

510
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.589
for with Pellia more just because it was more like

511
00:31:06.690 --> 00:31:10.009
taking the design and really going to an extreme place

512
00:31:10.029 --> 00:31:12.170
with it, you know, more of a, like a broad

513
00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:16.329
caricature as opposed to just, you know, I appreciated that.

514
00:31:16.369 --> 00:31:19.450
I thought that was a nice, you know, taking the

515
00:31:19.529 --> 00:31:22.430
idea of the design and doing something, you know, outlandish

516
00:31:22.470 --> 00:31:22.730
with it.

517
00:31:24.819 --> 00:31:28.619
And on our Facebook page, the majority of our fans

518
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:33.059
thought that Pelia was the best one that they came

519
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.180
up with. So Pelia looks like Pelia. Well, one guy

520
00:31:36.220 --> 00:31:41.970
said Animal, who wasn't in the episode. But yeah, Pelia

521
00:31:41.990 --> 00:31:45.930
was right up there. I'm looking through him right now. Pellia, Pellia.

522
00:31:46.109 --> 00:31:48.490
The red shirt with the hole in him. He's floating

523
00:31:48.539 --> 00:31:52.640
around in the upper right-hand corner of the picture. Nope,

524
00:31:52.660 --> 00:31:55.160
that's not Scotty. Scotty's at the bottom with the glove on.

525
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:58.799
No, Scotty's got the hole in him, too.

526
00:32:00.980 --> 00:32:04.099
No, he doesn't. That's the guy from the bridge who

527
00:32:04.779 --> 00:32:06.960
makes you wonder whether he's been there the whole time.

528
00:32:06.980 --> 00:32:12.809
The nameless red shirt. Sorry. The guy who doesn't have

529
00:32:12.849 --> 00:32:17.029
a name but has a hole. All right. So that

530
00:32:17.049 --> 00:32:20.890
was just a little fun thing that we wanted to

531
00:32:20.930 --> 00:32:24.509
throw out there for you guys. And so that finishes

532
00:32:24.730 --> 00:32:27.950
up that. So now let's dive in and talk about

533
00:32:27.990 --> 00:32:31.940
the episode and see what our scores are compared to

534
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:36.279
our Facebook fans. So who wants to go first? How

535
00:32:36.299 --> 00:32:38.140
about ladies? How about we let Dee go first? All right.

536
00:32:40.049 --> 00:32:43.930
What I realized when I was writing down my notes today,

537
00:32:43.950 --> 00:32:50.289
Scotty's puppy, puppy, puppet, puppet. I hear the cat. I'm

538
00:32:50.329 --> 00:32:56.549
thinking animals. Anyway, Scotty's puppet, little Ricky. Tell me that

539
00:32:56.609 --> 00:33:00.849
was not a nod to Lucille Ball. You know, the

540
00:33:00.869 --> 00:33:04.809
mother of Star Trek. Am I right?

541
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:08.380
Yeah, I believe that it was.

542
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.109
Yeah, I think that was, yeah. It just hit me,

543
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.440
and it's like, oh my gosh. Because I wondered, why

544
00:33:12.460 --> 00:33:14.519
did they call him Little Ricky? And it hit me,

545
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:22.420
and it's like, oh, Lucy. Okay, anyway. Yeah. So, for the,

546
00:33:22.900 --> 00:33:26.720
I guess the people who didn't like the episode, I

547
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:32.039
guess they probably didn't like how A Christmas Carol was

548
00:33:32.099 --> 00:33:37.740
reimagined with Muppets and Michael Caine. And, of course, one

549
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:44.319
of my favorites, Treasure Island with the recently departed Tim Curry.

550
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.549
So that's a big deal, you know. It's not the

551
00:33:49.589 --> 00:33:55.390
first time that people, you know, you've reimagined something into puppets.

552
00:33:56.009 --> 00:33:58.970
And also, for those of us who watched The Muppets,

553
00:33:59.509 --> 00:34:05.740
there was one of my favorite segments, Pigs in Space

554
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:11.159
with Link Hogfrog and all that. I love Pigs in Space.

555
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:11.820
I know.

556
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.079
How could you not? It was great. It was awesome.

557
00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:22.550
But I just... There was one thing that was mentioned

558
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:28.469
that the Orions were played by some comedians. But I

559
00:34:28.510 --> 00:34:31.210
didn't recognize who they were, so I'll just, you know,

560
00:34:32.769 --> 00:34:35.570
they were great. They had green faces, you know, yada, yada.

561
00:34:37.489 --> 00:34:40.889
But again, going back to the sheer amount of work

562
00:34:41.449 --> 00:34:46.130
that went into making all those puppets and the hair

563
00:34:46.210 --> 00:34:50.849
and the facial expressions and everything. And also, they actually

564
00:34:51.230 --> 00:34:56.360
did this on the show, the set. And because I've

565
00:34:56.389 --> 00:34:59.199
seen videos of it, and that's a tremendous amount of work.

566
00:34:59.260 --> 00:35:04.480
So from that aspect, I'm just really appreciating all the

567
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:08.150
work that went in to bring that to us. But

568
00:35:09.369 --> 00:35:14.429
my favorite part was when you've got the, you know,

569
00:35:14.510 --> 00:35:18.650
Spock and Pike with the little hand thing, you know,

570
00:35:19.130 --> 00:35:25.800
mimicking Wrath of Khan. And I know that Spock wakes up,

571
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.309
but it was kind of creepy. Yeah. Just a little

572
00:35:29.329 --> 00:35:33.070
bit creepy that when he started to lean in and,

573
00:35:33.250 --> 00:35:36.710
you know, to kiss the Pring puppet, it's like, okay,

574
00:35:37.809 --> 00:35:40.590
that was a little bit weird. But I just got

575
00:35:40.750 --> 00:35:44.949
a bunch of needed laughs out of it. It was

576
00:35:44.989 --> 00:35:46.969
a lot of fun. It was exactly what I would

577
00:35:47.010 --> 00:35:50.170
expect from the Muppets. And I love anything that Jim

578
00:35:50.250 --> 00:35:54.949
Henson Productions does. So, you know, combine it with Star Trek,

579
00:35:54.989 --> 00:35:58.130
heck yeah. So I will give it a solid 9.75.

580
00:35:58.130 --> 00:36:08.119
Wow, that really gets Paul going because that's a double digit.

581
00:36:08.539 --> 00:36:08.960
Yes.

582
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:10.059
Paul loves those.

583
00:36:10.219 --> 00:36:13.480
I know. Up for you, Paul.

584
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.079
All right. How about you, Charles?

585
00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:20.829
Okay.

586
00:36:22.369 --> 00:36:25.110
In the opener, I thought it interesting where.

587
00:36:26.570 --> 00:36:34.519
Scotty's in there dealing with trying to challenge a classmate

588
00:36:34.619 --> 00:36:39.280
of his. And then Spock, who goes to see Leon,

589
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.210
Leon's kind of putting some distance between her and him.

590
00:36:46.110 --> 00:36:48.409
And I think that's foreshadowing a little bit about what

591
00:36:48.489 --> 00:36:50.150
might be happening in the future.

592
00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:54.130
And I thought that interesting....

593
00:36:54.380 --> 00:36:58.300
How she's trying to back away from him a bit,

594
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.710
dealing with what's happened to her.

595
00:37:01.570 --> 00:37:12.269
From the ship incident. Let me see in Word.

596
00:37:15.989 --> 00:37:20.590
Definitely the transporter incident was interesting, how everybody was affected

597
00:37:20.690 --> 00:37:23.960
by an onboard ship. At least as we know from

598
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:29.530
the episode. And how each character had to deal with it.

599
00:37:29.619 --> 00:37:30.699
Oh, that's right. I forgot.

600
00:37:30.780 --> 00:37:31.260
David.

601
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:39.360
Who's engineering. We're going to pop up a picture. Grab

602
00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:43.219
this out of my collection from a Star Trek club

603
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:47.579
meeting I was at. This is actually me and my

604
00:37:47.780 --> 00:37:52.650
puppet slash Muppet Neil. I actually was trying to do

605
00:37:52.690 --> 00:37:54.639
a little bit of work with Muppets. You can get

606
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.460
in your slideshows, David. I was trying to play with

607
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.400
puppeteering a little bit and also watching videos on the

608
00:38:02.460 --> 00:38:06.719
making of. And I will agree with V, the making

609
00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:10.059
and designing of Muppets is very complicated.

610
00:38:12.179 --> 00:38:13.860
But not only the making of.

611
00:38:13.889 --> 00:38:17.869
If you go in and start watching any of the

612
00:38:17.949 --> 00:38:23.139
behind the scenes episodes, Sure, Pike's sitting in the chair.

613
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:33.630
A Muppeteer is crawling below the chair, trying to move

614
00:38:33.690 --> 00:38:36.510
in just the right position where he could hold Pike

615
00:38:36.710 --> 00:38:38.909
up and move the mouth and make him look like

616
00:38:38.949 --> 00:38:45.130
he's sitting there for real. The staging on the Muppet series,

617
00:38:45.250 --> 00:38:50.789
literally everybody was on the second floor. And all the

618
00:38:50.829 --> 00:38:55.010
puppeteers were down there below with their hands above their

619
00:38:55.050 --> 00:38:58.940
heads and frequently sitting there with TV screens so they

620
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.320
could see what they're doing because they can't see at

621
00:39:01.579 --> 00:39:02.159
all what's.

622
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:03.000
Going on above them.

623
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.059
So I love just with the complexity of what it

624
00:39:08.179 --> 00:39:12.050
was to put together these characters, walk in the scenes,

625
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:18.050
having legs. Legs is a complicated Muppet feature. So having

626
00:39:18.070 --> 00:39:21.309
to sit there and move the legs In fact, some

627
00:39:21.329 --> 00:39:23.820
of these guys actually wore green suits just to try

628
00:39:23.900 --> 00:39:24.940
hiding themselves.

629
00:39:29.070 --> 00:39:33.309
I love how Scott... created this glove.

630
00:39:32.849 --> 00:39:37.800
Where he could sit there and be able to mechanically move,

631
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.659
touch things, which he couldn't touch.

632
00:39:43.820 --> 00:39:47.260
I thought that was great. I love the.

633
00:39:49.789 --> 00:39:53.650
Method they used to get rid of the Orions. I

634
00:39:53.670 --> 00:39:59.429
thought that was definitely creative. The silent Spock. Well, yes,

635
00:39:59.670 --> 00:40:02.429
Spock's silent because he doesn't want to use up oxygen.

636
00:40:05.650 --> 00:40:06.469
And the Muppets.

637
00:40:08.489 --> 00:40:11.280
Deciding they want to feel what's like to feel being

638
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:14.719
out in space. And not have to wear any suits.

639
00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:21.360
I just thought that was all funny and laughing and

640
00:40:21.579 --> 00:40:27.429
really a good introduction. Yes, Strange New Worlds can do

641
00:40:27.489 --> 00:40:32.250
some good comedy. Most of the episodes are serious, but

642
00:40:32.309 --> 00:40:36.349
I love a little bit of lower-deck style comedy thrown in.

643
00:40:39.030 --> 00:40:42.329
For this, I couldn't quite go with a 10, but

644
00:40:42.389 --> 00:40:45.510
I was going with a definite 9.5.

645
00:40:45.510 --> 00:40:47.230
I love what they did with this episode.

646
00:40:50.179 --> 00:40:53.159
Alright, 9.5. How about you, Eric? You want to jump

647
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:56.340
in next? Sure.

648
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:04.889
Yeah, so I will say that I kind of both

649
00:41:05.070 --> 00:41:12.230
loved and hated this episode in equal measure. I definitely

650
00:41:12.269 --> 00:41:14.429
came into this really wanting to like it. I was

651
00:41:14.449 --> 00:41:17.849
a big proponent back in the subspace Rhapsody days of

652
00:41:18.250 --> 00:41:20.710
something that Seems silly at first, but might have a

653
00:41:20.750 --> 00:41:26.179
plausible explanation. I think people maybe have forgotten that we

654
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:30.380
actually had precedent for a puppet thing before because there

655
00:41:30.409 --> 00:41:37.019
was an episode of Lower Decks where Kayshaun, the... What

656
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:41.199
are they called? The Kayshaun-his-eyes-open people. I can't remember their

657
00:41:41.219 --> 00:41:43.579
race's name right now, but he gets turned into a

658
00:41:43.619 --> 00:41:46.900
puppet and we know he gets turned back. So we

659
00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:49.420
know that they have the technology to turn people from

660
00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:55.000
puppets back into regular people. So anyway, I'll just say that.

661
00:41:55.019 --> 00:41:57.880
So I was kind of expecting that to be part

662
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.750
of it. So I really wanted to like it, and

663
00:42:00.789 --> 00:42:04.489
then I gave it a chance. And I'll say that

664
00:42:04.610 --> 00:42:07.809
the good parts of it for me were that, of course,

665
00:42:07.829 --> 00:42:09.989
you've already talked a lot about the puppet design, which,

666
00:42:10.030 --> 00:42:13.630
of course, was great. I think each one really captured

667
00:42:13.650 --> 00:42:18.480
the essence of the characters. So I was pretty impressed

668
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:23.579
by that. Um, it was, you know, genuinely funny. Like

669
00:42:23.699 --> 00:42:27.559
I laughed a good portion of the episode, um, and

670
00:42:27.619 --> 00:42:30.119
was on board for the ridiculousness, you know, the Muppet

671
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.280
show was always kind of like ridiculous. And so that

672
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.159
was part of its schtick. And so I was like, yeah, that's,

673
00:42:36.340 --> 00:42:39.000
that's cool. Uh, you're going to do that with Star Trek. Um,

674
00:42:39.699 --> 00:42:41.519
and so it was, you know, it was charming and

675
00:42:41.539 --> 00:42:45.489
it was funny and, and that, uh, sort of stuff. Um,

676
00:42:46.070 --> 00:42:48.750
At one point, it had kind of a Star Trek-y message,

677
00:42:48.809 --> 00:42:52.010
I think, because Pike had the whole think like a

678
00:42:52.050 --> 00:42:59.429
puppet moment, which for me, we all could do that

679
00:42:59.449 --> 00:43:02.340
a little bit more. If we each could step outside

680
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.159
of our own personal bubble a little bit more and

681
00:43:05.219 --> 00:43:07.880
try to put ourselves in other people's shoes and kind

682
00:43:07.900 --> 00:43:10.519
of look at it from their perspective, I think our

683
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:13.750
communication as human beings would be a lot better. And

684
00:43:13.809 --> 00:43:16.070
we'd probably solve problems and work together better. And so,

685
00:43:16.690 --> 00:43:18.469
you know, I felt like that was a nice embedded

686
00:43:18.909 --> 00:43:24.280
kind of Star Trek-y message in an otherwise very silly episode.

687
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.739
That's pretty much where what I liked about it ended. Like,

688
00:43:30.260 --> 00:43:33.489
the pirate thing, all the pirate stuff was trash as

689
00:43:33.510 --> 00:43:34.869
far as I was concerned. I don't know what they've

690
00:43:34.909 --> 00:43:36.949
done with the Orions. I have no idea what the

691
00:43:37.010 --> 00:43:40.949
Orions' racial identity is right now. I think they're supposed

692
00:43:40.969 --> 00:43:44.019
to be kind of sticky comedy now because we've seen

693
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.079
them that way in a few different episodes. Um, but

694
00:43:47.099 --> 00:43:49.059
also they're supposed to be pirates, but they're not really

695
00:43:49.099 --> 00:43:50.860
like kitschy.

696
00:43:51.130 --> 00:43:51.449
I don't know.

697
00:43:51.690 --> 00:43:55.750
I just don't understand them at all. Um, you know,

698
00:43:55.789 --> 00:43:57.650
you look at kind of what they've done with Spock

699
00:43:58.190 --> 00:44:02.199
over the course of this season. Um, the, you know,

700
00:44:02.219 --> 00:44:05.280
they put him in this episode, which of course we

701
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.420
all know, I'm going to talk about the ending here

702
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.010
in a minute. Um, But there's a lot of slapstick

703
00:44:11.090 --> 00:44:13.650
in this episode. They've kind of taken him out of

704
00:44:13.690 --> 00:44:16.349
the Vulcan context, I think, a little bit. And I

705
00:44:16.369 --> 00:44:18.489
feel like they're kind of doing that with Vulcans in general.

706
00:44:18.550 --> 00:44:21.409
So I don't love how they're handling his character at

707
00:44:21.670 --> 00:44:25.409
the moment. And then sometimes some of the puppet performances

708
00:44:25.449 --> 00:44:30.769
were way off. Pike had some lines that just Pike

709
00:44:30.789 --> 00:44:33.489
would never say. And they weren't funny lines. They were

710
00:44:33.710 --> 00:44:35.989
intense lines. And they just didn't land for me.

711
00:44:36.010 --> 00:44:37.030
So yeah.

712
00:44:39.699 --> 00:44:43.579
That is all of the bad things except the absolute

713
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:48.000
worst thing. The absolute positively worst thing that you could

714
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:53.659
ever do. Avoid this at all costs. Anytime you write something, never, ever, ever,

715
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.849
ever do this. And if somebody brings you a story

716
00:44:55.889 --> 00:44:57.829
where they do this, you throw it out and you

717
00:44:57.889 --> 00:45:04.010
fire them immediately without putting it on the screen. You

718
00:45:04.050 --> 00:45:08.440
never end it. It was all a dream. Like, The

719
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:11.199
number of times that that has been able to work

720
00:45:12.179 --> 00:45:16.780
in history... Yes, I love things like Christmas Carol or whatever.

721
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:22.329
I acknowledge that a character goes through a significant transformation

722
00:45:22.349 --> 00:45:27.590
despite the whole thing being a dream. I didn't feel

723
00:45:27.630 --> 00:45:30.489
like they did that with Spock. He didn't transform into

724
00:45:30.530 --> 00:45:32.769
a new character or have enough of a journey in

725
00:45:32.809 --> 00:45:35.710
this for that it was all a dream to matter

726
00:45:36.219 --> 00:45:38.980
to me. And I will tell you, as a person

727
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:44.539
who basically went ballistic after watching Seven Seasons of Lost,

728
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:50.480
and it all ended up just being a dream, this

729
00:45:50.539 --> 00:45:52.880
is the kind of thing where I was on board

730
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.579
the whole time, and I was laughing, and I was

731
00:45:55.619 --> 00:45:56.900
watching it with my wife, and we were having a

732
00:45:56.909 --> 00:45:59.809
good time. We're like, Muppets, and it's great. And then

733
00:45:59.849 --> 00:46:05.130
when that moment came, I came crashing down. And no

734
00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:09.219
episode should do that to me. It was like, so,

735
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:12.719
so before the ending, I probably would have given this

736
00:46:12.780 --> 00:46:15.639
episode a seven, honestly. Like I, I was having a

737
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:17.940
good time and I thought that there was enough, like

738
00:46:17.980 --> 00:46:22.369
I didn't care enough about the puppeteeness and them undoing it.

739
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.400
You know, you can sort of wave that away.

740
00:46:25.539 --> 00:46:26.019
That's fine.

741
00:46:26.780 --> 00:46:28.860
But the all, it was all a dream ending. I

742
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:33.619
took several points off. So I don't know, man. Maybe

743
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:35.110
a five. I'll give it a five.

744
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:36.119
Yeah.

745
00:46:38.610 --> 00:46:41.250
All right. A five from Eric. How about you, David?

746
00:46:43.710 --> 00:46:44.110
Yeah.

747
00:46:45.030 --> 00:46:47.469
All right.

748
00:46:47.570 --> 00:46:49.599
First of all, I'm going to start off with a

749
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.159
couple of my favorite lines from this episode. And that

750
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:57.679
was when Pike was calling Robert April for the first

751
00:46:57.699 --> 00:47:02.190
time as a puppet. And when Robert mentions, So who's

752
00:47:02.269 --> 00:47:05.230
controlling you? It just sounded so natural that it just

753
00:47:05.369 --> 00:47:08.889
rolled off the tongue. And it was just like the

754
00:47:08.989 --> 00:47:13.289
idea of seeing a puppet and you just absolutely go

755
00:47:13.389 --> 00:47:15.900
through your mind and say, okay, yeah, they can't be real.

756
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.420
They are puppets. People have to control them. So the

757
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.619
fact that he said that made me laugh out loud.

758
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:27.400
And the other line was when Spock was helping Scotty

759
00:47:28.739 --> 00:47:32.550
out from under the torpedo tube. And that silliness that

760
00:47:32.570 --> 00:47:35.179
you would see in there, it came straight from like

761
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.880
the Muppet show, you know, where it's just like you

762
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.340
were able to get out of that the entire time.

763
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:44.469
And the line that he mentioned was like, well, I

764
00:47:44.550 --> 00:47:49.809
know that now. To me, those two lines really bumped

765
00:47:49.849 --> 00:47:52.530
the score up to me because they were such good

766
00:47:52.590 --> 00:47:55.690
lines to me that I just could not leave them out.

767
00:47:55.710 --> 00:47:56.050
So yeah.

768
00:47:57.570 --> 00:47:59.329
Now that that's out of the way, I do want

769
00:47:59.349 --> 00:48:03.150
to make one thing clear is that I actually enjoyed

770
00:48:03.210 --> 00:48:06.570
the fact that it was actually a dream. The reason

771
00:48:06.590 --> 00:48:10.530
being was because if this episode, for some odd reason,

772
00:48:10.550 --> 00:48:14.769
became canon or whatever that other word is.

773
00:48:17.340 --> 00:48:20.949
I can't see this as being in the Star Trek universe,

774
00:48:21.139 --> 00:48:23.849
as everybody just becoming puppets. And it just didn't make

775
00:48:23.909 --> 00:48:26.190
sense to me. And so the fact that it didn't

776
00:48:26.269 --> 00:48:29.610
become canon because of it was a dream actually kind

777
00:48:29.789 --> 00:48:32.820
of made me think that it actually did pretty good.

778
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:37.739
I actually enjoyed that plot. And I know some other,

779
00:48:38.099 --> 00:48:41.420
like you mentioned, Eric, the lost TV show was all

780
00:48:41.460 --> 00:48:45.389
a dream. I can understand something like that because it

781
00:48:45.469 --> 00:48:48.869
went on for so long without knowing it. And it

782
00:48:48.889 --> 00:48:52.110
was like, what, seven seasons? Finally a dream? This was

783
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:56.300
only one episode. So, to be honest, in my opinion,

784
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.760
I actually like the premise that it was a dream

785
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:04.480
more so because it's not canon. So, and it was silly.

786
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:08.630
It was fun. It was entertaining. It was, what do

787
00:49:08.650 --> 00:49:13.230
they call it, a gimmick episode? of this particular season

788
00:49:13.550 --> 00:49:15.869
of Star Trek, which again, I have to relate. I

789
00:49:16.550 --> 00:49:19.750
don't understand why they're doing all of the one-off shows

790
00:49:19.860 --> 00:49:22.980
when they're like only what 11 episodes left to try

791
00:49:23.019 --> 00:49:25.710
and figure out what's going to happen to Pike I

792
00:49:25.750 --> 00:49:27.590
mean we want to get back to the plot we

793
00:49:27.610 --> 00:49:30.010
want to get back to seriousness but I mean I'm

794
00:49:30.070 --> 00:49:33.610
hoping this is the last episode that did this and

795
00:49:35.449 --> 00:49:38.849
I mean, I re-watched this episode with my dad, and

796
00:49:39.250 --> 00:49:42.019
I grew up watching The Muppets. So, I mean, it

797
00:49:42.059 --> 00:49:44.159
probably was rerun on the TV series, because I'm not

798
00:49:44.340 --> 00:49:49.440
over 50 yet, but... The idea, though, that I enjoyed

799
00:49:49.460 --> 00:49:54.670
The Muppets, my favorite character was Rizzo, the rat, and... Actually,

800
00:49:54.690 --> 00:49:58.469
it's kind of a toss-up between the prawn, King Prawn,

801
00:49:58.530 --> 00:49:59.530
and Rizzo, but.

802
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:05.099
To me, I enjoy this type of entertainment for Muppets,

803
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:11.469
and I actually really enjoyed this episode. And because of

804
00:50:11.510 --> 00:50:14.309
a few little things here and there that didn't make sense,

805
00:50:14.329 --> 00:50:18.530
like I really did not like the Orion fight scene

806
00:50:18.650 --> 00:50:20.889
at the end. That thing was, that kind of fell

807
00:50:20.949 --> 00:50:24.969
flat for me. It was just like, how were the

808
00:50:25.030 --> 00:50:29.340
puppets holding an Orion down? I don't know. It didn't

809
00:50:29.380 --> 00:50:33.440
make sense to me. The fact that T'Puin here, that

810
00:50:33.460 --> 00:50:36.860
you can see on screen, Orion lit her hand on

811
00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:41.800
fire and then he somehow knocked himself out by running

812
00:50:41.820 --> 00:50:48.980
into a pillar. To me, considering that all that happened

813
00:50:49.019 --> 00:50:52.019
because it was Fox's dream kind of makes sense, but

814
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.000
at the same time it was just kind of silly

815
00:50:54.099 --> 00:50:57.659
and I didn't really enjoy it that much. But overall,

816
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:03.400
I was really thinking about this episode, score-wise, and I

817
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:05.300
was going to do two different scores and kind of

818
00:51:05.380 --> 00:51:09.250
average them together, but to save time, I guess what

819
00:51:09.289 --> 00:51:12.909
I'll do is just say that from here, the score

820
00:51:12.929 --> 00:51:17.389
that I picked would probably just be a 7. Maybe

821
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:19.820
a 6.5 because of the different things, but I'm going

822
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.380
to round it up to a 7.

823
00:51:22.380 --> 00:51:25.420
Excellent. And I just want to say, David, that you

824
00:51:25.460 --> 00:51:28.159
look excellent in a black and white fedora from last

825
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:29.239
week's video.

826
00:51:31.260 --> 00:51:31.880
Thank you.

827
00:51:32.019 --> 00:51:36.159
That was cool. All right, Paul. You got the mic, buddy.

828
00:51:36.179 --> 00:51:40.010
All right, friends. Well, you know, here's the thing. A

829
00:51:40.250 --> 00:51:43.429
couple starters. I'm a big fan of the Jim Henson

830
00:51:43.570 --> 00:51:45.650
Creature Shop, big fan of The Muppet Show.

831
00:51:45.849 --> 00:51:48.670
I'm of a vintage that I grew up watching, right?

832
00:51:48.690 --> 00:51:51.960
So I remember it really well. And love the.

833
00:51:52.420 --> 00:51:54.860
motion picture work. Somebody earlier, I think it was you,

834
00:51:55.110 --> 00:51:57.750
mentioned Muppet Christmas Carol, right? Where you have live action

835
00:51:57.889 --> 00:52:01.010
actors working together with the Muppets. Or Muppet Treasure Island

836
00:52:01.030 --> 00:52:03.289
with Tim Curry has been in rotation a lot this

837
00:52:03.309 --> 00:52:06.949
week because of Tim Curry's passing. Great stuff. Really, really,

838
00:52:07.010 --> 00:52:11.050
really well done. I'm invested as a fan. Love the work.

839
00:52:11.300 --> 00:52:14.340
Appreciate the craft. Make sure to get that out there.

840
00:52:14.900 --> 00:52:16.059
And this premise would.

841
00:52:15.940 --> 00:52:22.219
Have been a phenomenal 10 minutes short on a platform

842
00:52:22.260 --> 00:52:25.820
like Sesame street, right. That does lots of parodies of

843
00:52:25.900 --> 00:52:29.300
modern things. It'd be like a, a short episode parody

844
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.840
of a popular movie or like Avengers or game of

845
00:52:31.860 --> 00:52:34.619
Thrones or something. And they, but with the Sesame street spin,

846
00:52:35.050 --> 00:52:38.429
this would have been a great concise, tiny little, you know,

847
00:52:38.710 --> 00:52:43.869
amusing thing for, for 10 minutes on Sesame street, but

848
00:52:43.929 --> 00:52:48.570
to put it on strange new worlds, uh, Yeah, not

849
00:52:48.590 --> 00:52:50.670
what I would call the best fit, right? So it's just,

850
00:52:50.750 --> 00:52:52.309
I think a lot of it too is I'm really

851
00:52:52.349 --> 00:52:55.969
coming into the season as David intimated, right? I got

852
00:52:55.989 --> 00:52:58.550
a lot of gimmick fatigue from the way things are

853
00:52:58.570 --> 00:53:03.030
going week to week to week with, you know, premises

854
00:53:03.349 --> 00:53:06.409
and no writing. I'm so tired of premises and no

855
00:53:06.449 --> 00:53:09.989
writing on this show from this batch of writers that

856
00:53:10.010 --> 00:53:13.250
they've got. And again, like, you know, it's just like,

857
00:53:13.650 --> 00:53:15.750
I would normally start off going, okay, well, you know,

858
00:53:16.179 --> 00:53:18.179
Even with the boundaries, all the nonsense we've ever heard

859
00:53:18.260 --> 00:53:22.010
on scientific explanations and technobabble in Star Trek, the idea

860
00:53:22.030 --> 00:53:26.690
of turning organic matter into felt and foam, you're off

861
00:53:26.730 --> 00:53:29.110
into pure fantasy right away. But at the end, none

862
00:53:29.130 --> 00:53:33.309
of it matters, and you can't put any analysis to

863
00:53:33.349 --> 00:53:37.510
it at all because of that crappy rug pull at

864
00:53:37.550 --> 00:53:41.010
the very end of the show where it's all a dream, right?

865
00:53:41.110 --> 00:53:44.429
You don't have to have an excuse. or follow rationale

866
00:53:44.489 --> 00:53:46.050
or reason or anything, because.

867
00:53:45.849 --> 00:53:47.409
You can just basically say, well, it's all a dream,

868
00:53:47.449 --> 00:53:48.010
so it's all bullshit.

869
00:53:48.030 --> 00:53:50.989
It doesn't matter, right? And to me, the it's all

870
00:53:51.030 --> 00:53:54.760
a dream thing is, it's so poor, right?

871
00:53:54.820 --> 00:53:56.820
The only thing that even remotely rivaled it is what

872
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.039
we endured last week, where Una just happens to coincidentally

873
00:54:00.059 --> 00:54:03.260
look like the, wow, you're an exact dead ringer for

874
00:54:03.340 --> 00:54:08.199
the person who's in charge of this elaborate, you know,

875
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:11.750
undercover ruse. With the Klingons, wow, what.

876
00:54:11.630 --> 00:54:14.829
An amazing, fortunate, lucky coincidence. This is the worst kind

877
00:54:14.869 --> 00:54:16.429
of writing ever.

878
00:54:16.730 --> 00:54:21.000
And I just, you know, sack everybody on this show

879
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.900
who's responsible for any of these season four, with the

880
00:54:23.940 --> 00:54:26.860
exception of the season one premiere that was pretty good,

881
00:54:27.099 --> 00:54:30.519
you know. But it's so bad. I just can't believe

882
00:54:30.539 --> 00:54:32.170
what they're doing, you know. And I really want to

883
00:54:32.190 --> 00:54:35.570
take issue with one of our fans. said earlier when

884
00:54:35.690 --> 00:54:39.010
Eric was reading, the original Star Trek never took themselves seriously.

885
00:54:39.190 --> 00:54:41.690
Dude, are you high? Or what is your situation?

886
00:54:42.250 --> 00:54:42.449
Right?

887
00:54:42.769 --> 00:54:46.690
Yeah, there's some zany episodes like the Space Hippies and

888
00:54:46.969 --> 00:54:49.510
Apollo and Abraham Lincoln.

889
00:54:49.309 --> 00:54:50.630
And all that stuff. But this is a show that

890
00:54:50.670 --> 00:54:52.659
took its science fiction writing really seriously.

891
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:53.539
Okay?

892
00:54:53.579 --> 00:54:56.300
That was written by writers like Harlan Ellison and Ted Sturgeon.

893
00:54:57.010 --> 00:54:58.630
and Robert Block, right?

894
00:54:58.650 --> 00:55:01.090
It was a very serious science fiction show, right? With

895
00:55:01.130 --> 00:55:04.110
some goofy episodes towards the end in season three, like

896
00:55:04.150 --> 00:55:06.530
Spock's brain. But to make a comment like that is just.

897
00:55:06.570 --> 00:55:08.949
You know, an ignoramus. So I'm sorry, I just got

898
00:55:08.969 --> 00:55:09.349
to say it.

899
00:55:10.030 --> 00:55:12.750
But this episode is also, in addition to being poorly written,

900
00:55:12.829 --> 00:55:17.329
it's practically plagiarism. It's a beat for beat ripoff of

901
00:55:17.530 --> 00:55:22.030
Next Generation's Rascals, the episode that Charles mentioned in Cadet.

902
00:55:21.789 --> 00:55:22.309
Training, right?

903
00:55:22.389 --> 00:55:27.199
In both stories, this weird physical transformation happens Here, it's puppets,

904
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:29.840
but in Rascals, it was children, right? Due to a

905
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:33.019
transporter mishap, right? And so the Enterprise is left vulnerable

906
00:55:33.420 --> 00:55:37.320
to this opportunistic boarding party. Here, it was Orions. In Rascals,

907
00:55:37.380 --> 00:55:39.659
it was Ferengi. And a small little group has to

908
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.119
figure out how to outsmart the invaders.

909
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:43.780
I mean, it's a complete... If I was the writer

910
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:47.179
of Rascals, I'd sue. I really would.

911
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:49.340
And, you know, obviously, the little Ricky thing is a

912
00:55:49.380 --> 00:55:52.039
nod to Desilu Studios and.

913
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:54.929
But... Really, guys.

914
00:55:55.110 --> 00:55:58.809
Even in Spock's fantasy land imaginings of his dreams, we're

915
00:55:58.829 --> 00:56:02.090
supposed to believe that Scotty kept this creepy puppet throughout

916
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:04.579
all of his time at Starfleet Academy and then somehow

917
00:56:04.659 --> 00:56:06.900
brought it on board the Enterprise and he wasn't locked

918
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.059
away from being a psychopath? I mean, that's just the

919
00:56:10.099 --> 00:56:13.380
creepiest thought ever. But I just worry about the future

920
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:14.739
of this show. Well, it has no future because it's

921
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:15.239
been cancelled.

922
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:20.320
It's already done. But this tonal shift into this such

923
00:56:20.619 --> 00:56:25.809
silly childish humor is just really troubling. I mean, Star

924
00:56:25.829 --> 00:56:29.289
Trek Stranger Worlds is a comedy show now. It's not

925
00:56:29.329 --> 00:56:31.190
a science fiction show you can take seriously. I recommend

926
00:56:31.210 --> 00:56:33.940
to people it's real science fiction. It used to be

927
00:56:33.980 --> 00:56:37.800
rooted in realistic allegorical storytelling, and all of this humor was,

928
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.340
I mean, again, love the Muppets. It's just not appropriate

929
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:42.980
for this. Very broad, childish, and silly stuff.

930
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:47.469
I mean, figuring out how to work doors, you know,

931
00:56:47.530 --> 00:56:50.190
all this kind of nonsensical stuff. It's pushing the tone

932
00:56:50.940 --> 00:56:52.800
way past what I'm looking for in science fiction.

933
00:56:52.860 --> 00:56:54.340
You know, give them props.

934
00:56:54.380 --> 00:56:57.219
They did a great job for what they were doing, right?

935
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.690
It's really challenging work. On a technical level, it's an achievement.

936
00:57:01.510 --> 00:57:05.250
All the craftsmanship involved. I think that those folks did

937
00:57:05.289 --> 00:57:08.710
a phenomenal job. My issue is with you, writers, because

938
00:57:08.730 --> 00:57:12.449
you suck. And you're ruining a really decent television show

939
00:57:12.530 --> 00:57:14.889
and you're bringing it down into, like, infantile level.

940
00:57:15.849 --> 00:57:18.630
So, you know, I'm sorry. It's just, you know, my

941
00:57:18.670 --> 00:57:20.900
issue was always with the writing. And I can't get

942
00:57:20.940 --> 00:57:23.000
past it if it's bad. And this is really bad.

943
00:57:23.380 --> 00:57:25.239
So, you know, I mean, appreciate it if you're able

944
00:57:25.260 --> 00:57:28.590
to enjoy this and you don't really have a problem

945
00:57:28.619 --> 00:57:31.969
with these great big tonal shifts. And, you know, you're

946
00:57:32.010 --> 00:57:36.570
not looking to apply critique to your drama and you're

947
00:57:36.590 --> 00:57:39.429
willing to just take whatever you recognize as being entertaining.

948
00:57:39.690 --> 00:57:41.869
Power to you, man. I'm glad you're enjoying it. It's

949
00:57:41.889 --> 00:57:43.449
just not what I'm looking for in my science fiction.

950
00:57:44.019 --> 00:57:45.940
I'm looking for something a little bit more adult. I'm

951
00:57:45.980 --> 00:57:46.900
more of like a Ronald D.

952
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:51.340
Moore person. with the newer upgraded Battlestar Galactica we got.

953
00:57:51.940 --> 00:57:54.949
I don't want so much humor in my drama. Or

954
00:57:54.969 --> 00:57:58.630
I would watch a comedy show. And that's what Enterprise

955
00:57:58.670 --> 00:58:01.409
has become. It's become a comedy show and a poorly

956
00:58:01.429 --> 00:58:05.030
written one at that. So for me, all I can

957
00:58:05.070 --> 00:58:06.989
do is I got to really line up next to

958
00:58:07.090 --> 00:58:09.019
Eric here. I think a five is the best I

959
00:58:09.059 --> 00:58:12.119
can give you. I'd love to give it higher for

960
00:58:12.139 --> 00:58:15.380
the craftsmanship, but it's just so stupid and annoying. I

961
00:58:15.460 --> 00:58:17.980
really can't get past it. So yeah, and you know,

962
00:58:18.929 --> 00:58:20.750
I mean, and it's kind of like, am I getting

963
00:58:20.789 --> 00:58:23.730
a weird racist trope vibe off of the fans?

964
00:58:23.769 --> 00:58:26.369
I kind of feel like I am. There's something going

965
00:58:26.449 --> 00:58:29.380
on there that I'm not comfortable with. These days, of course,

966
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.579
everyone will just look past it and not care. But

967
00:58:31.780 --> 00:58:32.980
I don't know. I don't like it.

968
00:58:33.579 --> 00:58:35.599
And I'm not sure what it is. So do better.

969
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:38.159
It continues to be my message. Get rid of whoever's

970
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:42.179
writing the show. Never hire them to do science fiction again, ever, anywhere,

971
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:43.260
under any format.

972
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:49.070
So five from me. That's it. I'm going completely against

973
00:58:49.150 --> 00:58:55.360
Paul and Eric, 100%. Not surprised. The first time I

974
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:59.179
watched this episode, I was with you guys. I hated it.

975
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.880
I'm sitting there thinking, wait a minute. Pike would never

976
00:59:01.940 --> 00:59:05.650
say that. Orions wouldn't act that way. This wouldn't be

977
00:59:05.690 --> 00:59:09.980
going on. And unlike Eric, when we got to the end,

978
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:12.699
and found out it was a dream, all those things

979
00:59:12.739 --> 00:59:16.119
were forgotten because none of those characters were acting the

980
00:59:16.139 --> 00:59:20.619
way those characters would act because it was Spock's interpretation

981
00:59:21.179 --> 00:59:23.960
of what would be going on, which changes the whole

982
00:59:24.019 --> 00:59:26.179
premise for the way I watched the show the second

983
00:59:26.219 --> 00:59:29.949
time and the third time. that I watched it. So

984
00:59:30.690 --> 00:59:34.949
I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. And unlike, I thought the last,

985
00:59:34.969 --> 00:59:37.300
the black and white show was just a total gimmick.

986
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:42.159
This particular show, I thought paired really good with the

987
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:46.099
Griffin because in the Griffin, Spock is dealing with his

988
00:59:46.139 --> 00:59:48.820
humanity and he has to bring, cut his humanity out

989
00:59:48.860 --> 00:59:50.820
of him. In this episode, he turns it to bring

990
00:59:50.900 --> 00:59:54.730
as well. And she turns into a puppet because he

991
00:59:54.769 --> 00:59:58.730
manifests her as a puppet. She comes aboard and helps

992
00:59:58.750 --> 01:00:02.420
him deal with his logic as an actual person and

993
01:00:02.460 --> 01:00:05.360
not as a puppet. So for me, I thought that

994
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:08.239
they really did a lot to move Spock's character forward.

995
01:00:08.780 --> 01:00:10.820
And they showed us a lot of what's going on

996
01:00:10.860 --> 01:00:15.369
in Spock's brain. no pun intended at this point in

997
01:00:15.429 --> 01:00:18.750
his career, where this is not the Leonard Nimoy Spock

998
01:00:18.769 --> 01:00:21.329
that we're going to see later, but he's moving towards it.

999
01:00:21.929 --> 01:00:23.789
And I think that we're starting to see him, uh,

1000
01:00:25.090 --> 01:00:28.409
excise his, his human half and turn to total logic.

1001
01:00:28.909 --> 01:00:34.400
So I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. 100%. Um, like I said,

1002
01:00:34.420 --> 01:00:37.559
Pellia was great. The little rat, the con nod, I

1003
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:41.530
thought was great. Um, And I also thought that when

1004
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:45.320
the Enterprise is getting shot and all the crew is

1005
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:47.760
running around screaming, I'm like, they would never do this.

1006
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:52.699
But the Muppets would. So it was very Muppety to me.

1007
01:00:52.739 --> 01:00:55.750
And that's the way I watched it. And the dream

1008
01:00:56.369 --> 01:00:58.369
saved it for me because I was going to just

1009
01:00:58.630 --> 01:01:01.230
wash it out the airlock until we found out it

1010
01:01:01.269 --> 01:01:03.690
was a dream. And when we found out that it

1011
01:01:03.730 --> 01:01:09.480
was a dream, it changed everything. And I think I think,

1012
01:01:09.820 --> 01:01:12.570
and my Trek-sperts can help me with this, that this

1013
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:16.289
is the only time Star Trek has ever used that trope.

1014
01:01:17.550 --> 01:01:20.750
I cannot think of a single Star Trek episode that

1015
01:01:20.769 --> 01:01:24.940
was a complete, utter, total dream that wasn't alien-induced like

1016
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.179
Inner Light or something like that. That where a character

1017
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:30.940
just had a dream and woke up. I don't recall

1018
01:01:30.980 --> 01:01:33.480
an episode that, I might be wrong, but it doesn't

1019
01:01:33.539 --> 01:01:35.530
pop in my brain. Anybody?

1020
01:01:37.659 --> 01:01:42.769
I mean, I guess I think we should expand that

1021
01:01:42.869 --> 01:01:45.130
out maybe just a little bit because I think that

1022
01:01:46.070 --> 01:01:49.289
time travel episodes kind of fall into this same sort

1023
01:01:49.329 --> 01:01:52.170
of category because in a lot of time travel episodes,

1024
01:01:52.929 --> 01:01:56.420
things just sort of are as they are at the

1025
01:01:56.539 --> 01:02:00.880
end of it. Like, for example, two episodes that are

1026
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.400
really cool that a lot of people love of Voyager

1027
01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:06.730
are Year of Hell, right? And there are such cool

1028
01:02:06.769 --> 01:02:08.929
episodes and there's a lot of war and that Voyager

1029
01:02:08.969 --> 01:02:10.510
gets really beat up and all that kind of stuff.

1030
01:02:11.150 --> 01:02:14.889
And then in the end, it's time travel shenanigans and

1031
01:02:14.989 --> 01:02:17.250
nothing that has happened during any of the Year of

1032
01:02:17.309 --> 01:02:20.889
Hell episodes matters at all because it's all been canceled

1033
01:02:20.929 --> 01:02:25.670
by time travel. So I guess what maybe Paul and

1034
01:02:25.730 --> 01:02:27.809
I are saying on the other side of that is

1035
01:02:28.550 --> 01:02:30.699
when it feels like you've wasted your time watching it

1036
01:02:30.860 --> 01:02:34.360
because none of it actually matters, like maybe i could

1037
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:37.179
watch it a second time and be be more okay

1038
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.389
with it jim um you know because now i know

1039
01:02:40.409 --> 01:02:43.389
i know what the punchline is already so now i

1040
01:02:43.449 --> 01:02:46.610
can like watch it with a different you know eye

1041
01:02:47.170 --> 01:02:49.510
it just like to me is just like i was

1042
01:02:49.550 --> 01:02:52.099
like oh god it took the wind out of my sails.

1043
01:02:53.659 --> 01:02:57.230
But i i enjoyed it um Like, I'll give an example.

1044
01:02:58.110 --> 01:03:00.210
When Pike is on the bridge and he says, we

1045
01:03:00.230 --> 01:03:03.730
will fire photon torpedoes, and he fires them, Pike wouldn't

1046
01:03:03.869 --> 01:03:07.590
do this. So that bothered me. But knowing that it's

1047
01:03:07.650 --> 01:03:10.360
just Spock making it all up, I'm able to just

1048
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.360
sit back and enjoy it and watch it for what

1049
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:17.539
it is. And so I personally enjoyed it greatly. I

1050
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:20.039
don't know if I enjoyed it as much as Subspace Rhapsody,

1051
01:03:20.659 --> 01:03:23.880
but I did enjoy it. And the puppets were great.

1052
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.340
I thought that the representation of the puppets was spot on.

1053
01:03:28.630 --> 01:03:32.829
The Orions were strange, but again, this is Spock's brain

1054
01:03:32.869 --> 01:03:36.010
that we're dealing with. This is Spock's interpretation of what

1055
01:03:36.050 --> 01:03:38.659
an Orion would be and what an Orion would act like.

1056
01:03:39.780 --> 01:03:43.699
And to V's point, The people that played the Orions,

1057
01:03:43.780 --> 01:03:47.219
I thought the Orion guy that was holding Spock hostage

1058
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:51.099
was just a riot. He's talking to Spock about his

1059
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:55.780
girlfriend and about his life and blah, blah, blah. That

1060
01:03:55.820 --> 01:03:57.840
guy was funny. I don't know who he was, but

1061
01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:02.820
I liked him. So overall, I enjoyed the episode because

1062
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:05.400
it was a dream and because it helped move Spock's

1063
01:04:05.500 --> 01:04:08.739
character one step closer to where we know he's going

1064
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:13.980
to eventually end up. So I enjoyed it. And I

1065
01:04:14.019 --> 01:04:18.519
think I'm going to go with a 9.95 because I

1066
01:04:18.579 --> 01:04:24.860
know that Paul likes those extra decimals. You're just saying

1067
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:25.780
you can't commit, man.

1068
01:04:25.820 --> 01:04:28.190
That's all you're saying.

1069
01:04:28.210 --> 01:04:29.190
So it's on you, man.

1070
01:04:29.230 --> 01:04:31.690
If you've got a resort to it, go for it.

1071
01:04:31.710 --> 01:04:35.019
If I can add one thing real quick. There were

1072
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:39.099
several other shows that had dreams in them, like Dallas.

1073
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:42.860
Does anybody remember Dallas, where Pam wakes up and Bobby

1074
01:04:42.940 --> 01:04:45.840
is in the shower and he wasn't dead? And then,

1075
01:04:45.860 --> 01:04:49.199
I don't know if it was a dream per se,

1076
01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:54.170
as it was a young autistic boy's imagination, and that

1077
01:04:54.230 --> 01:04:58.030
did bum me out, was St. Elfware, which was an

1078
01:04:58.210 --> 01:05:03.099
excellent medical drama. Oh, that was, yeah. And then... Newhart

1079
01:05:03.340 --> 01:05:07.260
did a spoof on that where him living in Vermont

1080
01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:10.510
in the end was all a dream. And he was

1081
01:05:10.570 --> 01:05:14.889
really back in his apartment and he was a strength. Yeah. So.

1082
01:05:15.610 --> 01:05:18.730
An interesting thing too, is this like, um, uh, you

1083
01:05:18.769 --> 01:05:21.400
guys remember the far beyond the stars.

1084
01:05:21.179 --> 01:05:23.619
Episode of deep space nine.

1085
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:25.639
With, with, with, with Benny Russell, right?

1086
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:30.510
Well, This didn't happen, but Ira Stephen Bear, one of

1087
01:05:30.530 --> 01:05:35.590
the show's co-creators, he originally wanted the series finale to

1088
01:05:35.630 --> 01:05:38.489
be that the entire series was watched was like a

1089
01:05:38.570 --> 01:05:41.869
daydream or hallucination of Benny Russell.

1090
01:05:41.570 --> 01:05:42.130
That he'd had.

1091
01:05:42.269 --> 01:05:45.989
It was all within his mind as a science fiction writer.

1092
01:05:46.010 --> 01:05:48.530
They decided not to go that way, but that was

1093
01:05:48.590 --> 01:05:49.769
originally what they were planning for.

1094
01:05:49.789 --> 01:05:52.110
I've got to just throw this out there, too. This

1095
01:05:52.170 --> 01:05:53.070
is going way back.

1096
01:05:53.090 --> 01:05:55.829
I can't even remember what year it was, but I

1097
01:05:55.849 --> 01:05:58.590
don't know if anybody was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer

1098
01:05:58.650 --> 01:06:01.070
person or the spinoff series.

1099
01:06:01.269 --> 01:06:03.170
Angel was the first show to do this, right?

1100
01:06:03.349 --> 01:06:06.690
Angel did a show, I think in the fifth season,

1101
01:06:07.489 --> 01:06:10.920
where one of the main characters got transformed into like

1102
01:06:10.940 --> 01:06:14.199
a marionette, you know, while they were investigating some evil

1103
01:06:14.460 --> 01:06:15.480
children's television show.

1104
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:18.460
So similar kind of thing. But yeah, I'm just with you.

1105
01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:19.840
It's just like, for me, it's just like, if you're

1106
01:06:19.860 --> 01:06:22.539
saying it's all a dream, right? Then it's just, it's

1107
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:25.269
like the best cop-out ever. right it's like oh nothing

1108
01:06:25.309 --> 01:06:27.630
has to make sense and i want things to make

1109
01:06:27.690 --> 01:06:31.690
sense or i'm like i i why am i paying

1110
01:06:31.730 --> 01:06:33.130
attention to shit if i don't and none of it

1111
01:06:33.150 --> 01:06:33.949
has to make sense.

1112
01:06:33.789 --> 01:06:36.630
At the end it's just literally lazy it's a cop-out

1113
01:06:36.869 --> 01:06:39.829
and and it's just bad writing i mean that that

1114
01:06:39.869 --> 01:06:42.030
that's something i mean if you're able to enjoy it

1115
01:06:42.050 --> 01:06:45.920
and forgive that that's awesome well i i completely disagree

1116
01:06:46.179 --> 01:06:47.539
paul i enjoy.

1117
01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:50.800
Really really really really really it's the laziest.

1118
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:54.010
Time of I don't find it to be lazy. I

1119
01:06:54.130 --> 01:06:57.269
don't find it to be a cop-out. I enjoyed it.

1120
01:06:57.389 --> 01:06:59.820
It's interesting how people can see the same thing differently.

1121
01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:04.789
I watched it and The part where T'Pring slaps Spock

1122
01:07:05.010 --> 01:07:08.550
and then slaps him again. I was like, you slapped me.

1123
01:07:08.630 --> 01:07:10.369
And then she slaps him a second time for being

1124
01:07:10.389 --> 01:07:13.670
too human. I thought it was great. So I thoroughly

1125
01:07:13.730 --> 01:07:17.340
enjoyed it and was able to enjoy it for what

1126
01:07:17.380 --> 01:07:17.739
it was.

1127
01:07:18.110 --> 01:07:20.659
Well, that's some sort of fudgy connection right there, so

1128
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:21.079
I don't know.

1129
01:07:21.099 --> 01:07:26.579
Spock's brain. So, Charles, how do the Treksperts line up

1130
01:07:26.659 --> 01:07:27.960
to our Facebook fans?

1131
01:07:32.380 --> 01:07:39.440
Interesting, this week, the Facebook fan scored a 7.5, and

1132
01:07:39.500 --> 01:07:42.400
the host scored.

1133
01:07:45.809 --> 01:07:47.210
A 7.7. Wow.

1134
01:07:47.309 --> 01:07:50.570
Now, I want to bring up one comment that one

1135
01:07:50.590 --> 01:07:53.230
of my coworkers said, and I totally agree with him.

1136
01:07:54.489 --> 01:07:56.809
If somebody doesn't.

1137
01:07:57.650 --> 01:08:02.659
Do a replica of the Muppet characters, in figures or

1138
01:08:02.699 --> 01:08:06.179
another way of merchandise, they're losing out.

1139
01:08:06.699 --> 01:08:07.000
Yeah.

1140
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:09.719
I think for many of us, they need to do

1141
01:08:09.820 --> 01:08:12.949
something to reproduce these characters.

1142
01:08:15.929 --> 01:08:18.729
All right. And this is the part of the show

1143
01:08:18.750 --> 01:08:21.210
where we do our sci-fi birthdays.

1144
01:08:22.170 --> 01:08:22.270
Um.

1145
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:45.609
Hello, Laura. That was not a Klingon song. All right, guys.

1146
01:08:45.850 --> 01:08:49.729
Usually we start off our Sci-Fi Birthdays with our remembrances,

1147
01:08:49.770 --> 01:08:52.069
but Paul has a meeting he has to jet to.

1148
01:08:52.609 --> 01:08:55.090
So we're just going to flip things around a little bit,

1149
01:08:55.510 --> 01:08:58.850
and we're going to have Paul start out our Sci-Fi Birthdays,

1150
01:08:58.869 --> 01:08:59.970
and then we'll move back to Eric.

1151
01:09:02.619 --> 01:09:04.979
And ironically, we're ahead of schedule, so it becomes a

1152
01:09:04.979 --> 01:09:07.560
moot point, but there you go. So let's first start

1153
01:09:07.619 --> 01:09:08.029
off with.

1154
01:09:07.949 --> 01:09:09.989
Some of these August birthdays that we have here. Folks,

1155
01:09:10.029 --> 01:09:13.409
we're still alive. We're still kicking in our Muppets.

1156
01:09:14.189 --> 01:09:16.590
So first of all, we'll say happy birthday to Kim Cattrall,

1157
01:09:17.050 --> 01:09:20.329
English-Canadian actress who played, of course, Valeris in Star Trek

1158
01:09:20.350 --> 01:09:24.430
VI The Undiscovered Country, soon to be immortalized in action

1159
01:09:24.470 --> 01:09:28.149
figure form thanks to the Nacelle Company, which.

1160
01:09:28.090 --> 01:09:30.130
Is very cool. So you can have your own.

1161
01:09:30.590 --> 01:09:35.439
Valeris figure very soon. She won a Saturn Award nomination

1162
01:09:35.460 --> 01:09:37.520
for that role, by the way, which is pretty awesome.

1163
01:09:38.060 --> 01:09:40.399
I just thought she was a terrific character, really cool,

1164
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:45.000
real bit of a badass. She rose to fame for

1165
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:47.560
her role as Samantha Jones in the HBO series Sex

1166
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:52.220
and the City. Also has the distinguished credit of being

1167
01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:55.979
a huge star in a John Carpenter movie. She was

1168
01:09:56.300 --> 01:09:59.180
Gracie Law in Big Trouble in Little China with Kurt Russell,

1169
01:09:59.220 --> 01:09:59.819
which is one of.

1170
01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:02.510
The top tier Carpenter movies. Really great stuff.

1171
01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:06.630
She played a pea teacher in Porky's, that cult picture

1172
01:10:06.710 --> 01:10:10.109
from way back in the day, and a socialite turned

1173
01:10:10.210 --> 01:10:14.590
cop in the original Police Academy movie. So working all

1174
01:10:14.630 --> 01:10:19.470
the time, Kim Cattrall. Again, Valeris, great character, and happy

1175
01:10:19.489 --> 01:10:20.010
birthday to you.

1176
01:10:21.109 --> 01:10:22.470
Talking about iconic, whoa.

1177
01:10:23.210 --> 01:10:25.859
Stand back and prepare to leap across the room in

1178
01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:30.779
slow motion with a revolver in each hand, because Carrie-Anne Moss.

1179
01:10:30.739 --> 01:10:32.720
Is having a birthday, of course.

1180
01:10:32.899 --> 01:10:36.640
Early roles on television took her to tremendous international prominence.

1181
01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:40.260
As Trinity in the matrix series.

1182
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:43.560
And then very recently, uh, showed up on star Wars,

1183
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:47.159
the acolyte, uh, on Disney plus as Jedi master in

1184
01:10:47.220 --> 01:10:50.920
Dara on that television series, their tool, uh, to harnessing

1185
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:53.340
that same bad-ass energy as well.

1186
01:10:53.380 --> 01:10:55.000
She's a really cool performer. It does a lot of

1187
01:10:55.020 --> 01:10:56.920
really good work. Um, she's just great.

1188
01:10:57.060 --> 01:10:59.979
Really, really charismatic, delightful to see her showing up in

1189
01:11:00.010 --> 01:11:01.390
star Wars, man. That was amazing.

1190
01:11:01.449 --> 01:11:01.909
I know.

1191
01:11:02.210 --> 01:11:04.899
And she basically, I don't know if people watch, uh,

1192
01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:07.529
the acolyte, very misunderstood show.

1193
01:11:07.670 --> 01:11:10.149
They had a great pilot, though. Their first episode was great.

1194
01:11:10.229 --> 01:11:13.090
And this, like, I want to say, like, 10-minute fight

1195
01:11:13.130 --> 01:11:16.970
scene in a bar with Carrie-Anne Moss, right? She's basically

1196
01:11:17.010 --> 01:11:22.199
doing everything the most bad-eyed Jedi could ever do. Just stunt, stunt, stunt, stunt, stunt,

1197
01:11:22.340 --> 01:11:25.119
leaping across there in just incredibly challenging stuff.

1198
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:27.220
She's great. I mean, she does a lot of good work.

1199
01:11:27.619 --> 01:11:31.520
Really, really cool to watch. Enjoy her very much. Might

1200
01:11:31.539 --> 01:11:33.170
have to sit down and watch the original Matrix again.

1201
01:11:33.289 --> 01:11:36.729
That was really, really... Groundbreaking picture.

1202
01:11:37.550 --> 01:11:40.960
Happy Birthday also goes out to John Snyder, played the

1203
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:45.100
role of Bocrop in Next Gen's third season episode, The Enemy.

1204
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:49.800
And in the fifth season episode, The Masterpiece Society played

1205
01:11:49.819 --> 01:11:53.020
the role of Aaron Conner. No relationship to John Conner.

1206
01:11:53.100 --> 01:11:53.720
By the way.

1207
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:58.239
But yeah, John Snyder, dual roles in Next Gen. Pretty

1208
01:11:58.260 --> 01:12:00.649
cool to be able to say that. And moving back

1209
01:12:00.699 --> 01:12:03.489
over to Voyager, we have Happy Birthday goes out to

1210
01:12:03.550 --> 01:12:07.930
Jennifer Lean. actress best known for playing Cass, the Ocampa

1211
01:12:08.489 --> 01:12:11.329
during the first through third seasons of Voyager. And then

1212
01:12:11.510 --> 01:12:15.369
back in fourth season episode, Scorpion part two and the gift, uh,

1213
01:12:15.449 --> 01:12:18.079
she did end up reprising her role for the sixth

1214
01:12:18.100 --> 01:12:22.739
season episode fury. So, uh, back and forth, uh, through

1215
01:12:22.859 --> 01:12:27.760
different parts of the, uh, Voyager timeline there, uh, wrapping things.

1216
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:29.859
Up in her appearance in that last episode.

1217
01:12:29.939 --> 01:12:33.340
So, uh, we've got all kinds of folks having birthdays

1218
01:12:33.380 --> 01:12:36.779
here and, uh, I think that's a good time to, though,

1219
01:12:37.260 --> 01:12:39.079
while we did jump ahead this week, let's go back

1220
01:12:39.380 --> 01:12:44.359
and acknowledge folks who we fondly remember, because a lot

1221
01:12:44.380 --> 01:12:46.159
of folks, we still want to celebrate them, even though

1222
01:12:46.180 --> 01:12:48.699
they've moved on from this celestial sphere.

1223
01:12:49.369 --> 01:12:50.930
And for that, we turn to Eric.

1224
01:12:51.590 --> 01:12:54.550
Yeah, Paul, this week, our first remembrance is going to

1225
01:12:54.590 --> 01:12:59.170
be for actor Clarence Williams III. He, of course, was

1226
01:12:59.229 --> 01:13:04.850
the Tony Award-nominated actor who played Omet Klon. in the

1227
01:13:04.930 --> 01:13:08.829
Deep Space Nine fourth season episode, To the Death. He's

1228
01:13:08.850 --> 01:13:12.399
probably best known, however, for his role as Link Hayes

1229
01:13:12.609 --> 01:13:16.479
on the 1970s television series, The Mod Squad. You can

1230
01:13:16.489 --> 01:13:20.020
see him there in the video that David's put together.

1231
01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:25.600
Amazing Nehru jacket, amazing collar. I love that look right there. He,

1232
01:13:25.619 --> 01:13:29.420
of course, is the grandson of legendary musician Clarence Williams

1233
01:13:29.460 --> 01:13:33.000
and blues singer Eva Taylor. If you don't know Clarence Williams,

1234
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.819
he was quite the shit back in the day. He's

1235
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:41.000
a jazz pianist, composer, promoter, vocalist, theater producer, publisher. There

1236
01:13:41.020 --> 01:13:44.239
was nothing the man didn't do. I have a feeling

1237
01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:47.770
that Grandpa passed on a lot of that to Clarence

1238
01:13:47.789 --> 01:13:51.210
Williams III. Following a two-year stint in the United States

1239
01:13:51.289 --> 01:13:54.350
Air Force, he started performing in stage productions, ultimately working

1240
01:13:54.390 --> 01:13:59.270
his way into the Broadway stage scene in 1960 with

1241
01:13:59.310 --> 01:14:02.359
a role in a short-lived play called The Long Dream.

1242
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:06.210
He also broke into Featured Films, making his debut in

1243
01:14:06.229 --> 01:14:10.029
the medium with an uncredited appearance on the 1959 war

1244
01:14:10.090 --> 01:14:13.289
drama Porkchop Hill. I haven't seen Porkchop Hill.

1245
01:14:14.289 --> 01:14:15.310
I don't know.

1246
01:14:16.170 --> 01:14:19.869
Nobody else has seen it. Thanks, Clarence Williams III, for

1247
01:14:19.909 --> 01:14:24.310
being an awesome and scary character.

1248
01:14:24.529 --> 01:14:24.800
Although.

1249
01:14:25.689 --> 01:14:29.789
I really do like the Omediclon episodes. His character kind

1250
01:14:29.810 --> 01:14:32.449
of changes from the beginning of when they bring him

1251
01:14:32.489 --> 01:14:35.850
in to later on. So anyway, thanks Clarence Williams III.

1252
01:14:36.670 --> 01:14:40.229
Also saying happy birthday and sending out lots of love

1253
01:14:40.250 --> 01:14:44.109
this week to Kenneth George Kenny Baker. Kenny Baker was

1254
01:14:44.149 --> 01:14:47.510
a British actor, comedian, and musician who portrayed the character

1255
01:14:47.649 --> 01:14:51.029
R2-D2 in the Star Wars franchise and also appeared in

1256
01:14:51.050 --> 01:14:56.909
The Elephant Man, Time Bandits, Willow, Flash Gordon, Amadeus, and Labyrinth.

1257
01:14:57.770 --> 01:15:00.810
In fact, as of 2016, he appeared in three films

1258
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:04.159
that were nominated for Best Picture, including A New Hope,

1259
01:15:04.659 --> 01:15:08.199
The Elephant Man, and Amadeus. And in addition to his

1260
01:15:08.260 --> 01:15:10.720
role as R2-D2 in Return of the Jedi, he was

1261
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:15.159
actually supposed to play the Ewok Wicket, but he fell

1262
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.300
victim to food poisoning, so that part of Wicket went

1263
01:15:18.340 --> 01:15:24.710
to Warwick Davis instead. Funny how things happen, right? So anyway,

1264
01:15:24.890 --> 01:15:27.270
Kenny Baker, thanks for being our original R2D2. I love

1265
01:15:27.289 --> 01:15:29.989
that picture of you in the R2 suit right there

1266
01:15:30.029 --> 01:15:32.310
on the screen. Thanks for finding that one, David. Happy

1267
01:15:32.329 --> 01:15:36.819
birthday to Kenny Baker. Happy birthday as well to Oliver McGowan,

1268
01:15:37.140 --> 01:15:41.060
the character actor who played the caretaker in the 1966

1269
01:15:41.060 --> 01:15:45.439
original series first season episode Shore Leave. McGowan was mostly

1270
01:15:45.510 --> 01:15:51.149
known for his 75 guest appearances on on various television shows.

1271
01:15:51.229 --> 01:15:55.029
One of his earliest appearances at the age of 49, yes,

1272
01:15:55.500 --> 01:15:59.380
earliest appearances when he was 49, was in an episode

1273
01:15:59.500 --> 01:16:03.100
of Maverick, which I will admit was a show that

1274
01:16:03.220 --> 01:16:05.739
we used to watch a lot of back in the day.

1275
01:16:05.859 --> 01:16:09.100
Maverick and Rockford Files are burned pretty good into my brain.

1276
01:16:09.930 --> 01:16:14.890
Alongside Arthur Ratnitas, who of course was Lieutenant D'Amato. So

1277
01:16:15.090 --> 01:16:17.890
Oliver McGowan, thank you for all of your various contributions,

1278
01:16:17.949 --> 01:16:21.039
including Is that true? He was on the monkeys television series.

1279
01:16:21.220 --> 01:16:21.579
Oh my God.

1280
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:23.300
I had a girlfriend that was totally into that at

1281
01:16:23.420 --> 01:16:26.500
one time. I saw a bunch of that as well.

1282
01:16:27.060 --> 01:16:28.840
She was like the monkeys. I was like, I don't

1283
01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:30.020
get it, but you're cute.

1284
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:30.560
So whatever.

1285
01:16:30.579 --> 01:16:34.699
Uh, all right. And, uh, last but not least, uh,

1286
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.000
let's keep going beyond. And we're going to say happy

1287
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:38.239
birthday to sir.

1288
01:16:38.470 --> 01:16:39.010
Thomas.

1289
01:16:39.729 --> 01:16:39.970
Yes.

1290
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:42.010
Most people don't know his first name is actually Thomas

1291
01:16:42.229 --> 01:16:45.770
Sean Connery. Uh, he of course is the Scottish film

1292
01:16:45.890 --> 01:16:50.140
actor and producer. Um, who has done so many things

1293
01:16:50.180 --> 01:16:52.729
in his life. He, uh, was the first actor to

1294
01:16:52.770 --> 01:16:57.710
play James Bond starring in seven films between 1962 and 1983. Um,

1295
01:16:59.229 --> 01:17:04.539
he of course was Juan Sanchez Villalobos Ramirez in Highlander

1296
01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:10.159
from 1986. Uh, and, uh, Indiana Jones's dad, Henry, right.

1297
01:17:10.340 --> 01:17:14.149
In the last crusade. Um, Paul, I know, loves him

1298
01:17:14.229 --> 01:17:20.170
from his portrayal of Captain Marko Aleksandrovich Raimius in The

1299
01:17:20.270 --> 01:17:23.449
Hunt for Red October. But man, just what hasn't this

1300
01:17:23.489 --> 01:17:26.880
guy done? The one that I also kind of wanted

1301
01:17:26.899 --> 01:17:29.720
to highlight, which isn't actually on our little screen here,

1302
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:31.319
but I think is an important one to bring up,

1303
01:17:31.979 --> 01:17:34.439
was that he actually won an Academy Award for Best

1304
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:37.670
Supporting Actor for his role as Jim Malone in The

1305
01:17:37.710 --> 01:17:42.520
Untouchables from 1987. He also won won two BAFTA awards,

1306
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:46.529
three Golden Globes, and a Henrietta Award along the way.

1307
01:17:47.630 --> 01:17:47.890
Man.

1308
01:17:49.369 --> 01:17:51.210
Something else. It's still hard to believe that he's gone.

1309
01:17:51.409 --> 01:17:55.020
But yeah, so many cool things that Sean Connery has done.

1310
01:17:55.060 --> 01:17:56.899
Thank you so much for your contributions. We love you

1311
01:17:56.939 --> 01:17:58.680
very much. Happy birthday.

1312
01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:01.680
I remember he was in a movie called Outland.

1313
01:18:02.539 --> 01:18:02.920
Oh, yeah.

1314
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:07.550
It was this futuristic sci-fi cop and robber type of deal.

1315
01:18:08.430 --> 01:18:11.310
took place on, I think, was it Mars? It's been

1316
01:18:11.350 --> 01:18:16.449
a long time, but it was a future job. Yep, Io. Yep.

1317
01:18:16.989 --> 01:18:21.250
And let's not forget, the biggest thing to remember him for, Shaqari.

1318
01:18:22.729 --> 01:18:25.710
He was originally going to play Cybok in Star Trek V.

1319
01:18:25.729 --> 01:18:28.289
There you go. I got it in there. And he

1320
01:18:28.329 --> 01:18:30.670
was too busy doing Indiana Jones, so it went to

1321
01:18:30.710 --> 01:18:34.899
Lawrence Luckinville. So... Just imagine how different Star Trek V

1322
01:18:34.939 --> 01:18:37.560
would have been if Sean Connery had played Psymon.

1323
01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:39.579
That would have been different.

1324
01:18:40.260 --> 01:18:42.869
He's like, I think I dodged a bullet this time.

1325
01:18:42.890 --> 01:18:44.010
Thank Christ.

1326
01:18:44.350 --> 01:18:46.909
I read the script one time and I had to

1327
01:18:46.949 --> 01:18:47.430
say no.

1328
01:18:48.050 --> 01:18:49.930
I'd never have won that Oscar. I was on that piece.

1329
01:18:50.140 --> 01:18:51.079
of crap, would I?

1330
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:55.180
Anyway, we don't want to put words in your mouth, Mr.

1331
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:57.890
Sean Connery, but you are a sir. You were knighted.

1332
01:18:58.189 --> 01:18:58.449
Yeah.

1333
01:18:58.569 --> 01:19:01.310
Back in what? 2020, I believe.

1334
01:19:02.270 --> 01:19:02.609
Yeah.

1335
01:19:02.609 --> 01:19:06.270
2020 was knighted. So amazing. Happy birthday to you, sir.

1336
01:19:06.310 --> 01:19:07.970
And thank you for all the things that you have done.

1337
01:19:08.609 --> 01:19:10.689
in your life. And that does it for our remembrances.

1338
01:19:10.710 --> 01:19:12.949
So I think I would like to pass the flaming

1339
01:19:12.989 --> 01:19:17.270
birthday candle now back over to those who represent the

1340
01:19:17.310 --> 01:19:19.350
living and we'll check in with V.

1341
01:19:19.449 --> 01:19:24.130
All right. Thank you, Eric. So my first happy birthday

1342
01:19:24.229 --> 01:19:30.729
to the living goes to Callan White, the actress who

1343
01:19:30.789 --> 01:19:36.399
played Crite in the TNG fifth season episode, The Outcast,

1344
01:19:36.489 --> 01:19:42.020
one of my favorite episodes. Next, she flies the ship.

1345
01:19:42.260 --> 01:19:47.720
Happy birthday to Melissa Navia. She played Erica Ortega in

1346
01:19:47.819 --> 01:19:51.779
Star Trek Strange New Worlds. She's a New York State native,

1347
01:19:51.859 --> 01:19:57.659
has appeared in several short films and television projects since 2011.

1348
01:19:57.659 --> 01:20:01.220
So hopefully that would be great if we could get

1349
01:20:01.260 --> 01:20:07.319
her on the show. Next. Oh, this was a crush.

1350
01:20:08.229 --> 01:20:13.149
that I had when I was a lot younger, Rick Springfield.

1351
01:20:14.909 --> 01:20:21.050
Australian-American musician and actor. He appeared in Battlestar Galactica, Saga

1352
01:20:21.149 --> 01:20:24.800
of a Star World, as Lieutenant Zack. Also played, oh yeah,

1353
01:20:25.029 --> 01:20:29.500
he did, Dr. Noah Drake on the ABC daytime soap

1354
01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:35.590
opera General Hospital. And he's a rocker best for... Best

1355
01:20:35.630 --> 01:20:40.149
known for his number one hit, Jessie's Girl in 1981.

1356
01:20:40.149 --> 01:20:42.029
Are you saying.

1357
01:20:41.449 --> 01:20:45.439
You wanted to be Jessie's Girl, V?

1358
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.880
Maybe. I don't know.

1359
01:20:49.899 --> 01:20:52.840
I feel obligated to point out, people don't realize this

1360
01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:57.569
about Rick Springfield, but he has one of the most

1361
01:20:57.850 --> 01:21:02.850
valuable science fiction toy collections on the planet. He's got

1362
01:21:02.909 --> 01:21:08.930
a massive, massive high-end collection of vintage Star Wars figures,

1363
01:21:08.970 --> 01:21:12.369
stuff from the 70s and 80s. A lot of Holy

1364
01:21:12.390 --> 01:21:15.689
Grail items. He's not shy about it.

1365
01:21:16.010 --> 01:21:20.220
Check it out. You can find his stuff. It's mind-blowing.

1366
01:21:20.779 --> 01:21:24.859
It is really wild. And if you guys are fans

1367
01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:29.350
of Californication, or if you've never seen it, check out

1368
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:34.909
Californication Season 3, Episodes 6, 7, and 8, I believe.

1369
01:21:35.970 --> 01:21:40.210
Rick Springfield plays himself in those three episodes. It is

1370
01:21:40.350 --> 01:21:44.689
so hilarious. You know, I saw an interview with him

1371
01:21:44.869 --> 01:21:47.069
about it. He said it was easy. I just played me.

1372
01:21:47.350 --> 01:21:50.529
Didn't have to do anything. So it was really funny.

1373
01:21:51.029 --> 01:21:53.449
Well worth watching if you want to see Rick Springfield

1374
01:21:54.770 --> 01:21:57.020
doing some good stuff. So pretty cool.

1375
01:21:57.079 --> 01:21:59.159
All right. And I've got one last birthday wish going

1376
01:21:59.220 --> 01:22:03.869
out to Chris Pine. the actor who played James T.

1377
01:22:03.909 --> 01:22:07.390
Kirk in Star Trek, Star Trek Into Darkness, and Star

1378
01:22:07.449 --> 01:22:10.729
Trek Beyond. And his father is Robert Pine, who was

1379
01:22:10.770 --> 01:22:16.819
Sergeant Gertrude, yeah, Gertrude on Chips. That was another childhood

1380
01:22:16.939 --> 01:22:20.840
crush show of mine back in the day. So happy birthday,

1381
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:25.420
Chris Pine. All right, hurling the flaming birthday candle to

1382
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:25.970
Uncle Jim.

1383
01:22:30.270 --> 01:22:35.779
Yes, and I only have one birthday, and only one.

1384
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:39.840
I've resigned my birthdays to my Trexperts in order to

1385
01:22:40.300 --> 01:22:42.079
shorten the show up and move it along, so I

1386
01:22:42.100 --> 01:22:43.859
do the movie segment. But I do have one very

1387
01:22:43.899 --> 01:22:47.229
important birthday that I have to mention right now. We

1388
01:22:47.670 --> 01:22:52.369
have to say happy birthday to our very own miracle worker, David.

1389
01:22:52.789 --> 01:22:54.109
Happy birthday, David.

1390
01:22:54.390 --> 01:22:55.449
Happy birthday.

1391
01:22:55.489 --> 01:22:56.250
There's the fedora.

1392
01:22:57.229 --> 01:22:58.390
That is so cool.

1393
01:22:58.649 --> 01:23:00.630
Happy birthday, David.

1394
01:23:02.029 --> 01:23:02.470
Thank you.

1395
01:23:02.609 --> 01:23:04.199
Recap it, dude. Recap it.

1396
01:23:04.409 --> 01:23:05.289
It's all so black and white.

1397
01:23:05.310 --> 01:23:07.760
You wouldn't be seeing these awesome graphics like the one

1398
01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:11.279
that's on the screen right now. David does all the

1399
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:14.199
videos for us. And I think Eric can appreciate all

1400
01:23:14.220 --> 01:23:17.079
the work that goes into these after having to step

1401
01:23:17.140 --> 01:23:23.989
in last week. David does a phenomenal job. and we

1402
01:23:24.010 --> 01:23:26.090
couldn't do the show without him. So thank you so

1403
01:23:26.130 --> 01:23:29.529
much for being a Trexpert, and happy birthday, David.

1404
01:23:29.550 --> 01:23:31.649
Thank you very much.

1405
01:23:31.710 --> 01:23:33.609
How long have you been a Trexpert, David? I don't

1406
01:23:33.630 --> 01:23:34.609
think it's been too long.

1407
01:23:36.810 --> 01:23:39.560
You know, since 2000-something.

1408
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:41.399
25 years, Jim.

1409
01:23:41.500 --> 01:23:43.260
That narrows it down.

1410
01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:46.239
He's been here longer than the podcast has been.

1411
01:23:52.529 --> 01:23:57.710
I think I joined around 2018, 19, probably. Maybe someone

1412
01:23:57.789 --> 01:23:58.489
I can't remember.

1413
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:04.420
Yeah. You've been a very valuable member of the team.

1414
01:24:04.500 --> 01:24:08.420
Thank you, David. Thank you. All right. So now that

1415
01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:10.359
we've got all of our birthdays out of the way,

1416
01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:14.560
it's time for Uncle Jim's Movie of the Week. There's

1417
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:16.180
a couple on the list I want to mention, and

1418
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:18.399
then we'll pick one of my favorites, and we'll delve

1419
01:24:18.420 --> 01:24:21.520
a little bit deeper into it. So first, we want

1420
01:24:21.539 --> 01:24:25.399
to say happy birthday to The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai,

1421
01:24:25.939 --> 01:24:32.380
which was released on 8-13-1984. There's the poster up there

1422
01:24:32.579 --> 01:24:35.899
on the screen right now. The next movie that we

1423
01:24:35.939 --> 01:24:38.739
want to remember, we want to say happy birthday to

1424
01:24:38.770 --> 01:24:41.350
Event Horizon. It was released on.

1425
01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:44.800
Sorry, is Buckaroo Banzai a movie that I have to see?

1426
01:24:44.979 --> 01:24:48.039
Because I haven't seen it. Is it like a must-see?

1427
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:53.739
It's a cult movie. It's fun, it's entertaining, it's got

1428
01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:56.420
a really good cast, but it is very awkward and weird,

1429
01:24:56.619 --> 01:24:57.899
and it's trying to be.

1430
01:25:00.890 --> 01:25:04.529
Way cleverer than it is. It's fun, but go in

1431
01:25:04.550 --> 01:25:08.010
with low expectations.

1432
01:25:08.050 --> 01:25:09.350
If I haven't seen some of these, I need to

1433
01:25:09.390 --> 01:25:10.869
know if I need to put energy into them.

1434
01:25:10.930 --> 01:25:14.680
Sorry, Jim. No, that's okay. The next on our list

1435
01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:17.399
I think is relevant to an episode that we talked

1436
01:25:17.420 --> 01:25:21.560
about last week, Event Horizon, which was released on 8-15-1997,

1437
01:25:21.649 --> 01:25:31.090
starring the late Sam Neill from Jurassic Park. The next

1438
01:25:31.170 --> 01:25:32.869
one that we want to say happy birthday to on

1439
01:25:32.930 --> 01:25:36.569
our list is American Werewolf in London, which was released

1440
01:25:36.670 --> 01:25:43.279
on 8-21-1981. And now we're going to go way back.

1441
01:25:43.340 --> 01:25:47.800
We want to say happy birthday to Fantastic Voyage, released

1442
01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:55.289
on 8-24-1964. If you guys haven't seen this one, I

1443
01:25:55.329 --> 01:25:57.569
believe it's Raquel Welch is in this one, and they

1444
01:25:57.609 --> 01:26:01.489
go inside of the human body. So, you know, check

1445
01:26:01.529 --> 01:26:04.170
that out if you have not seen it. Check it out.

1446
01:26:04.210 --> 01:26:08.000
It's a piece of sci-fi history. The next one on

1447
01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:11.239
our list, we want to say happy birthday to Darkman,

1448
01:26:11.729 --> 01:26:17.010
which was released on 8-24-1990, starring Liam Neeson. It was

1449
01:26:17.050 --> 01:26:23.960
like one of these early pseudo-superhero type movies. The next

1450
01:26:24.060 --> 01:26:26.510
one on our list is, well, the next two actually

1451
01:26:26.550 --> 01:26:30.250
are real classics. We want to say happy birthday to

1452
01:26:30.630 --> 01:26:38.020
The Wizard of Oz, which was released on 8-25-1939. I

1453
01:26:39.340 --> 01:26:41.680
grew up watching this on TV and I was blown

1454
01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:46.460
away when I found out that Judy Garland is actually

1455
01:26:46.739 --> 01:26:51.189
Liza Minnelli's mother. Blew my mind when I found that

1456
01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:55.720
out because I always think of Judy Garland you know, from,

1457
01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:57.340
you know, the Wizard of Oz.

1458
01:26:57.579 --> 01:26:59.850
Wizard of Oz. She couldn't possibly have children.

1459
01:27:00.430 --> 01:27:04.609
She couldn't possibly be Liza Minnelli. Liza Minnelli's old. But yeah,

1460
01:27:04.789 --> 01:27:07.970
she was. And yeah, Wizard of Oz came out on 8-25-1939.

1461
01:27:11.369 --> 01:27:13.590
And the last birthday movie that we want to mention

1462
01:27:13.649 --> 01:27:17.460
is another classic, although, well, the radio show was a classic.

1463
01:27:18.180 --> 01:27:21.100
We want to say happy birthday to H.G. Wells' War

1464
01:27:21.300 --> 01:27:27.470
of the World, which was released on 26th, 1953, would

1465
01:27:27.510 --> 01:27:32.229
have been yesterday. And of all those movies, I'm going

1466
01:27:32.250 --> 01:27:35.630
to pick my favorite one to talk about. David, roll

1467
01:27:35.649 --> 01:27:35.989
the tape.

1468
01:27:38.090 --> 01:27:38.850
This was fun.

1469
01:27:39.189 --> 01:27:44.989
Luckily, he strolled on the moor. Did you hear that?

1470
01:27:45.470 --> 01:27:49.380
I heard that. What is it? Do you think it's

1471
01:27:49.420 --> 01:27:50.800
a dog? Nice doggy.

1472
01:27:51.500 --> 01:27:51.960
Good boy.

1473
01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:55.399
What happened?

1474
01:27:55.420 --> 01:27:58.300
The police report said they were attacked by an escaped lunatic.

1475
01:27:58.319 --> 01:28:03.170
A wolf. My friend Jack was just here.

1476
01:28:04.229 --> 01:28:06.689
Told me that I will become a monster in two days.

1477
01:28:07.069 --> 01:28:08.369
You're dead for me, Jack.

1478
01:28:08.750 --> 01:28:14.100
Yes. Gotta believe me, David. Believe what? You're one of

1479
01:28:14.140 --> 01:28:16.479
the undead, and I'm a werewolf.

1480
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:19.220
Tomorrow night's the full moon.

1481
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:20.239
You're gonna change.

1482
01:28:20.260 --> 01:28:21.260
I don't know.

1483
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:25.069
You'll become... I know, I know. A monster.

1484
01:28:31.550 --> 01:28:34.170
A naked American man stole my balloon.

1485
01:28:34.329 --> 01:28:40.680
What? What do you do next night? You don't remember?

1486
01:28:40.699 --> 01:28:47.199
The last remaining werewolf must be destroyed.

1487
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:48.140
It's you, David.

1488
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:49.159
Good Lord.

1489
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:14.619
Alright, there you have it. The trailer for The American

1490
01:29:14.659 --> 01:29:19.180
Werewolf in London. Again, it was released on August 21st, 1981.

1491
01:29:19.180 --> 01:29:23.609
It's an American supernatural comedy horror film written and directed

1492
01:29:23.670 --> 01:29:28.170
by John Landis himself. The film stars David Naughton, Jenny Auger,

1493
01:29:28.210 --> 01:29:33.069
Griffin Dunn, and John Woodvine. The plot follows two American backpatters,

1494
01:29:33.100 --> 01:29:36.300
David Kessler and Jack Goodman, who are attacked by a

1495
01:29:36.399 --> 01:29:40.970
werewolf while traveling in England. Their biggest mistake? was they

1496
01:29:41.010 --> 01:29:43.229
got off the path and went on the moors and

1497
01:29:43.270 --> 01:29:45.949
they didn't run into heathcliff either while they were there

1498
01:29:46.689 --> 01:29:51.510
um landis originally wrote the film in 1969 and shelved

1499
01:29:51.569 --> 01:29:55.529
it for over a decade prospective financers believed that landis's

1500
01:29:55.590 --> 01:29:58.409
script was too frightening to be a comedy and too

1501
01:29:58.569 --> 01:30:02.329
humorous to be a horror film after achieving success in

1502
01:30:02.369 --> 01:30:06.300
hollywood with national lampoon's animal house and the Blues Brother,

1503
01:30:06.819 --> 01:30:10.050
Landis was able to secure financing for Polygram Pictures to

1504
01:30:10.090 --> 01:30:13.029
produce An American Werewolf in London. And I got to

1505
01:30:13.050 --> 01:30:16.989
tell you guys, this is one of my favorite, favorite

1506
01:30:17.029 --> 01:30:21.810
horror movies. I remember sneaking into the movie theater to

1507
01:30:21.850 --> 01:30:25.890
see this movie because it was rated R. And scaring

1508
01:30:25.909 --> 01:30:28.729
the bejesus out of myself. For those of you who

1509
01:30:28.770 --> 01:30:33.470
don't know, John Landis actually made the thriller video for

1510
01:30:33.550 --> 01:30:39.770
Michael Jackson. American Werewolf in London was the first time

1511
01:30:39.829 --> 01:30:45.149
in Hollywood history where we saw an actual werewolf transformation live.

1512
01:30:45.949 --> 01:30:49.409
I mean, not live, but on screen right in front

1513
01:30:49.449 --> 01:30:53.369
of us in one complete take without any cutaways. All

1514
01:30:53.390 --> 01:30:59.539
done with puppetry. Phenomenal movie. great special effects and of

1515
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:03.779
course michael jackson was so enamored by it that he

1516
01:31:03.819 --> 01:31:06.539
had john landis turn him into a werewolf in a

1517
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:11.109
thriller so happy birthday to american werewolf in london released

1518
01:31:11.189 --> 01:31:16.210
on august 21st 1981.

1519
01:31:14.369 --> 01:31:16.970
So jim i wanted to share one little bit of

1520
01:31:17.050 --> 01:31:20.369
trivia that i thought was fascinating about this movie as

1521
01:31:20.430 --> 01:31:21.989
i was kind of like going back and looking at

1522
01:31:22.010 --> 01:31:25.869
it again so john landis wrote the screenplay for this

1523
01:31:25.989 --> 01:31:31.010
film following an incident while shooting Kelly's Heroes, which was

1524
01:31:31.090 --> 01:31:34.090
a movie from 1970 where he was kind of just

1525
01:31:34.109 --> 01:31:39.899
like an errand boy in Yugoslavia. While driving along a

1526
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:44.020
country road with a colleague, Landis encountered a Romani funeral.

1527
01:31:44.779 --> 01:31:48.159
The body was being buried in a massively deep grave,

1528
01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:52.680
feet first, while wrapped in garlic so it would not

1529
01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:57.960
rise from the dead. So he saw this amazing funeral

1530
01:31:58.140 --> 01:31:59.880
ritual and was like, you know what? I'm going to

1531
01:31:59.899 --> 01:32:01.460
write a movie about some undead stuff.

1532
01:32:03.890 --> 01:32:06.890
Well, one of the things that I remember most about

1533
01:32:06.930 --> 01:32:09.729
the movie that I enjoy the most is that there

1534
01:32:09.770 --> 01:32:13.750
is a lot of comedy in this movie. Jack's buddy

1535
01:32:13.770 --> 01:32:16.489
keeps coming back, and every time we see him, he's

1536
01:32:16.529 --> 01:32:21.920
more decomposed than he was in the scene before. There's

1537
01:32:21.939 --> 01:32:24.600
a really funny scene where they're sitting in a porno movie.

1538
01:32:25.189 --> 01:32:27.350
And all the people that he's killed all show up,

1539
01:32:27.409 --> 01:32:31.069
and they're all in various stages of decomposure. And behind him,

1540
01:32:31.130 --> 01:32:34.630
there's this porno movie going on that says, nonstop orgy,

1541
01:32:34.689 --> 01:32:38.109
see you next Wednesday. If you pay attention throughout the

1542
01:32:38.149 --> 01:32:43.260
entire movie, see you next Wednesday, keeps showing up on

1543
01:32:43.300 --> 01:32:46.340
billboards and all over the place. See you next Wednesday,

1544
01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:50.579
like a little inside joke. And Jenny Augeter, who is

1545
01:32:50.619 --> 01:32:53.300
his love interest in this movie, was also in another

1546
01:32:53.340 --> 01:32:58.050
favorite movie of mine, Logan's Run. And she stars in

1547
01:32:58.069 --> 01:33:01.930
this one with David Naughton. Another little tidbit for you guys.

1548
01:33:02.449 --> 01:33:05.029
If you're old enough, do you remember the Dr. Pepper commercials?

1549
01:33:05.050 --> 01:33:07.489
I'm a Pepper. He's a Pepper. You're a Pepper. Wouldn't

1550
01:33:07.510 --> 01:33:08.350
you like to be a Pepper?

1551
01:33:08.369 --> 01:33:09.890
Yes, I was going to say that.

1552
01:33:09.930 --> 01:33:12.529
I didn't go too young for that.

1553
01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:16.319
When they saw that commercial and they thought he'd be

1554
01:33:16.420 --> 01:33:21.079
perfect for the role. Another little tidbit. He tried his

1555
01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:26.329
luck in music. And he wrote a disco song called

1556
01:33:26.390 --> 01:33:31.880
Making It. And it was featured in Meatballs. I don't

1557
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:34.340
know how far it went in the charts, but it's

1558
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:38.140
a clever, catchy little song by David Naughton. You can

1559
01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:40.939
probably find it, Making It. It's kicking around out there

1560
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.069
on the internet. So yeah, American Werewolf in London. I'm

1561
01:33:44.090 --> 01:33:46.390
very fond of it growing up. I saw it several times.

1562
01:33:46.470 --> 01:33:48.449
And if you haven't seen it, I recommend it because

1563
01:33:49.289 --> 01:33:53.170
Even by today's standards, the special effects really, really pulled

1564
01:33:53.289 --> 01:33:58.069
up well. No CGI, no green screens. It's all puppets

1565
01:33:58.350 --> 01:34:04.369
and practical effects. Happy birthday to American Werewolf in London.

1566
01:34:05.029 --> 01:34:08.930
And that, my friends, wraps up Uncle Jim's Movie of

1567
01:34:09.069 --> 01:34:12.369
the Week. And now, it's time to get into our

1568
01:34:12.470 --> 01:34:37.930
Star Trek news. Alright, guys.

1569
01:34:37.970 --> 01:34:43.020
I just realized, sorry. Something funny happened. I didn't realize

1570
01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:48.039
I was in my pajamas in that picture. That was

1571
01:34:48.100 --> 01:34:52.750
a pajama episode. I just wanted to throw that out there.

1572
01:34:52.829 --> 01:34:59.170
Now the whole world knows your secret. I love that. Oh, boy.

1573
01:34:59.970 --> 01:35:02.720
So we usually like to start off with a segment

1574
01:35:02.739 --> 01:35:06.560
called Shatner Says What? But Shatner's been pretty quiet, but

1575
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:11.300
we do have another situation to talk about, and we'll

1576
01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:12.310
turn that over to Eric.

1577
01:35:13.350 --> 01:35:16.140
Yeah, I mean, talk about a couple of huge gut

1578
01:35:16.180 --> 01:35:19.380
punches this week. The one that we're going to talk about,

1579
01:35:19.420 --> 01:35:24.420
of course, is actor Tim Curry, the actor known for

1580
01:35:24.539 --> 01:35:28.430
the Rocky Horror Picture Show and It, among many, many

1581
01:35:28.510 --> 01:35:30.970
other things, including Clue, the other one that's shown on

1582
01:35:30.989 --> 01:35:35.930
the screen here, unfortunately died at age 80. Actor Tim Curry,

1583
01:35:35.970 --> 01:35:39.760
known for his iconic performances in cult classics like Rocky

1584
01:35:39.810 --> 01:35:43.079
Horror Picture Show, In the original screen adaptation of Stephen

1585
01:35:43.100 --> 01:35:47.239
King's It Has Died, his manager confirmed he was 80.

1586
01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:50.850
Born in Cheshire, England in 1946, the British singer and

1587
01:35:50.930 --> 01:35:54.470
actor began his career on London's West End. He went

1588
01:35:54.529 --> 01:35:58.149
on to receive multiple Emmy, Grammy, and Tony Awards alongside

1589
01:35:58.250 --> 01:36:02.810
additional acclaim throughout his decades in the business. Curry was

1590
01:36:02.869 --> 01:36:06.970
best known for his portrayal of cross-dressing scientist Dr. Frankenfurter

1591
01:36:07.550 --> 01:36:11.550
in Rocky Horror, the 1975 musical comedy movie, in which

1592
01:36:11.590 --> 01:36:15.250
he starred alongside the likes of Susan Sarandon and Barry Bostwick.

1593
01:36:16.010 --> 01:36:19.590
He reprised the role for the screen after first playing

1594
01:36:19.649 --> 01:36:21.989
it in the stage musical, The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

1595
01:36:22.909 --> 01:36:26.670
He's also remembered widely for his role in It, in

1596
01:36:26.710 --> 01:36:31.350
which he played the villainous clown Pennywise, when King's 1986

1597
01:36:31.350 --> 01:36:38.060
novel was adapted into a miniseries in 1990. And I believe, David,

1598
01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:40.359
do you have a special tape to show us here?

1599
01:36:41.590 --> 01:36:42.289
Go for.

1600
01:36:44.350 --> 01:36:45.680
It.

1601
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:58.310
How are we this morning? On the bed, I.

1602
01:37:00.289 --> 01:37:01.829
Went to bed.

1603
01:37:01.869 --> 01:37:04.069
Got it. Got that more bullets left in that gun.

1604
01:37:04.659 --> 01:37:06.180
There was one shot of Mr. Boddy in the study,

1605
01:37:06.220 --> 01:37:08.479
two for the chandelier, two at the lounge door, and

1606
01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:09.470
one for the singing telegram.

1607
01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:10.149
That's six.

1608
01:37:10.689 --> 01:37:13.970
One plus two plus two plus one. I want to

1609
01:37:14.069 --> 01:37:16.750
come again. And stay.

1610
01:37:17.329 --> 01:37:21.689
You're nothing but an animal.

1611
01:37:22.109 --> 01:37:23.229
Not all. It's fine.

1612
01:37:23.949 --> 01:37:24.470
It's fine.

1613
01:37:24.550 --> 01:37:24.930
It's fine.

1614
01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:45.779
Oh, yeah.

1615
01:37:45.859 --> 01:37:55.710
And we are hesitant in that it might be a

1616
01:37:55.750 --> 01:38:01.579
difficult image to shake off. So then really, I have

1617
01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:04.880
always thought that it wasn't worth doing unless you took

1618
01:38:04.920 --> 01:38:05.840
a risk, really.

1619
01:38:06.779 --> 01:38:07.970
So I took the risk.

1620
01:38:08.229 --> 01:38:09.439
Is there transportation here?

1621
01:38:09.729 --> 01:38:15.130
Out in front, sir. A limousine and a pizza. Love is,

1622
01:38:15.149 --> 01:38:22.010
I think, wasted on the young.

1623
01:38:22.550 --> 01:38:23.649
Can't kill them all, can you?

1624
01:38:24.449 --> 01:38:28.890
I could try. I could never harm you. You're honest

1625
01:38:28.949 --> 01:38:34.020
and brave at least. You didn't learn that from me.

1626
01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:38.470
I feel like an angel baby swaddled in a cocoon

1627
01:38:38.529 --> 01:38:39.869
of cloud candy.

1628
01:39:03.270 --> 01:39:07.029
Why sail? It's laws. That's what being a captain's all about.

1629
01:39:07.050 --> 01:39:10.010
Me, I sail by the stars.

1630
01:39:10.029 --> 01:39:12.689
All for one.

1631
01:39:15.329 --> 01:39:15.989
All for one.

1632
01:39:16.670 --> 01:39:18.430
All for one.

1633
01:39:18.609 --> 01:39:19.250
All for one.

1634
01:39:41.479 --> 01:39:43.699
That was a fantastic video I don't know where you

1635
01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:47.399
found that but that was amazing yeah what a great

1636
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:52.100
tribute to a great actor showed so many of his

1637
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:53.800
great roles there thanks.

1638
01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:57.810
David I remember him from a very short-lived sci-fi TV

1639
01:39:57.850 --> 01:40:01.289
show in the 90s called Earth 2.

1640
01:40:01.289 --> 01:40:07.060
Yeah, that was right. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's funny because,

1641
01:40:07.069 --> 01:40:09.460
I mean, you start thinking about just like the breadth

1642
01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:12.579
of what he's carrying. Like we talked about Muppet Treasure Island, right?

1643
01:40:12.619 --> 01:40:15.300
He was in that. We talked about Hunt for Red October.

1644
01:40:15.340 --> 01:40:19.489
I'm pretty sure he appears in that movie. We talked about, God,

1645
01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:21.619
there was something else we talked about. I was like, oh,

1646
01:40:21.659 --> 01:40:22.270
he was in that.

1647
01:40:23.890 --> 01:40:24.090
Yeah.

1648
01:40:25.090 --> 01:40:30.170
He was in Annie. He was in this movie that

1649
01:40:30.289 --> 01:40:33.189
I actually really enjoyed from the early 90s called Oscar.

1650
01:40:33.210 --> 01:40:36.779
I don't know if you remember that movie.

1651
01:40:37.060 --> 01:40:41.800
He's also in a TV show called Psych, which was

1652
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.600
actually a really funny TV show. He only showed up

1653
01:40:44.619 --> 01:40:48.060
in one episode, but it was quite surprising. I actually

1654
01:40:48.100 --> 01:40:50.350
liked Tim Curry in a lot of his movies that

1655
01:40:50.369 --> 01:40:55.909
he portrayed. I completely forgot Annie, the original movie. I

1656
01:40:55.949 --> 01:40:58.380
didn't realize she was in there until I just saw that.

1657
01:40:58.500 --> 01:41:06.399
I was like, oh my goodness.

1658
01:41:06.420 --> 01:41:10.069
Tim Curry will be missed. Thanks for that. We're going

1659
01:41:10.090 --> 01:41:12.770
to move on then. Our next news story is going

1660
01:41:12.789 --> 01:41:15.430
to be presented by Charles. Charles, take it away.

1661
01:41:16.590 --> 01:41:17.329
Thank you, Eric.

1662
01:41:18.470 --> 01:41:21.930
Strange New World writers explain why they went with the

1663
01:41:22.010 --> 01:41:26.649
puppet episode's strange ending. You're not alone if you walked

1664
01:41:26.729 --> 01:41:31.140
away from Strange New World's much-hyped puppet episode. Level 5

1665
01:41:31.140 --> 01:41:35.340
transporter incident. It's a great episode, but what was with

1666
01:41:35.380 --> 01:41:39.920
that ending? The revelation that the puppets' parts of the

1667
01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:44.010
episode were part of Spock's dream raised some unanswered questions.

1668
01:41:45.119 --> 01:41:49.539
Henry Alonzo Meyer, who co-wrote the episode with Diane Horgan,

1669
01:41:49.619 --> 01:41:52.739
dives into the creative logic behind the episode and helps

1670
01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:57.310
shine a light on how they approach this with the

1671
01:41:57.369 --> 01:42:02.489
somehow divisive ending. We spent a lot of time trying

1672
01:42:02.510 --> 01:42:06.260
to basically make sure that it worked and felt genuine

1673
01:42:06.300 --> 01:42:09.409
like a Star Trek episode, Meyer's noted. Yes, we're going

1674
01:42:09.449 --> 01:42:12.090
to have some fun, and yes, we're going to do

1675
01:42:12.250 --> 01:42:14.850
all these things, but if it doesn't feel like Star Trek,

1676
01:42:14.909 --> 01:42:15.609
what are we doing?

1677
01:42:17.090 --> 01:42:20.970
That's what we had to hold throughout the entire episode.

1678
01:42:21.689 --> 01:42:25.090
I mean, we're not done with a transporter incident yet,

1679
01:42:25.569 --> 01:42:27.609
and felt like this was an opportunity to do a

1680
01:42:27.630 --> 01:42:30.430
transporter incident at a level which had not been done

1681
01:42:30.510 --> 01:42:31.630
before in Star Trek.

1682
01:42:31.829 --> 01:42:34.840
Meyer explains. And that other thing....

1683
01:42:35.859 --> 01:42:38.930
Was if you had just one puppet, that wouldn't be

1684
01:42:39.430 --> 01:42:44.069
and feel like a writing on occasion. We really wanted

1685
01:42:44.090 --> 01:42:48.189
to make as a big and bold push on the

1686
01:42:48.350 --> 01:42:50.489
edge of the fact as much as we possibly could.

1687
01:42:51.729 --> 01:42:55.149
So the dream ending seemed to have been a byproduct

1688
01:42:55.189 --> 01:42:57.569
of the team wanting to have as much fun with

1689
01:42:57.609 --> 01:43:00.949
the idea as possible without having to spend too much

1690
01:43:01.029 --> 01:43:05.930
time with the cleanup and resolution. That, fairly standard, it

1691
01:43:05.989 --> 01:43:10.029
was a dream, logic, honesty. Though Myers throws a wrench

1692
01:43:10.069 --> 01:43:12.619
in the works by suggesting that the dream may not

1693
01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:16.739
be quite a dream after all. As for the dream,

1694
01:43:16.859 --> 01:43:20.000
dreams are dreams. I don't know, sometimes they are real,

1695
01:43:20.359 --> 01:43:21.899
Myers teases.

1696
01:43:23.539 --> 01:43:24.460
That, I'll say.

1697
01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:28.819
The episode, The Rathacon Callback, was a day of filming

1698
01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:31.619
decision that was really just a result of I think

1699
01:43:31.649 --> 01:43:34.630
it was spotting the opportunity to reference the famous moment

1700
01:43:35.109 --> 01:43:38.710
from the film. So again, it seems like everyone just

1701
01:43:38.770 --> 01:43:40.909
wanted to have some fun with this one and wasn't

1702
01:43:41.130 --> 01:43:47.340
overthinking of all the implications. And definitely, as I said

1703
01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:51.039
in the cadet review, we really haven't had a.

1704
01:43:51.100 --> 01:43:52.960
Transporter incident.

1705
01:43:54.220 --> 01:43:57.189
In the last couple of shows, and I think it

1706
01:43:57.229 --> 01:44:00.149
was a good time to add one into the series.

1707
01:44:03.350 --> 01:44:08.229
Absolutely, and I believe V has our final story of

1708
01:44:08.270 --> 01:44:08.569
the night.

1709
01:44:08.649 --> 01:44:16.000
Yes, yes, and hopefully, let me finish this before Riverside

1710
01:44:16.060 --> 01:44:19.939
kicks me out again. All right, Star Trek's wildest episode

1711
01:44:20.100 --> 01:44:25.000
in years could get a surprising spinoff project. Star Trek

1712
01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:29.670
just delivered its most surprising episode in years. There's now

1713
01:44:29.829 --> 01:44:34.300
a real chance of a spinoff but only under one condition.

1714
01:44:34.439 --> 01:44:40.250
The latest Star Trek Strange New Worlds Season 4 episodes

1715
01:44:40.310 --> 01:44:44.350
saw what franchise fans may have craved for in the

1716
01:44:44.449 --> 01:44:50.930
last six decades. Yeah, I don't know about that. Whoops. Sorry,

1717
01:44:51.170 --> 01:44:56.859
I just lost my spot here. Hold on. Sorry about that.

1718
01:44:57.060 --> 01:44:58.020
All right.

1719
01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:02.170
What they've... In the last six decades. All right. The

1720
01:45:02.270 --> 01:45:04.550
Muppets are back in the series, and they were in

1721
01:45:04.630 --> 01:45:08.529
full swing in a new episode. Following their wild comeback,

1722
01:45:08.689 --> 01:45:12.930
director Jordan Canning explained in detail what this means for

1723
01:45:12.970 --> 01:45:17.930
the future of puppets in the Star Trek universe. Canning

1724
01:45:17.970 --> 01:45:22.930
mentioned that there are chances of spin-off projects featuring Muppets.

1725
01:45:23.649 --> 01:45:27.909
They're in storage, she revealed. Those puppets will always exist.

1726
01:45:28.600 --> 01:45:30.380
I would love to get them out again and make

1727
01:45:30.420 --> 01:45:35.600
some short films or a web series or something. However,

1728
01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:39.079
there's only one condition that could make it happen. If

1729
01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:42.520
the fans like it, let's get them out again. Let

1730
01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:47.800
the puppets play. I guess we'll see about that, Jordan.

1731
01:45:48.100 --> 01:45:50.899
Star Trek Strange New World Season 4 is now streaming

1732
01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:55.119
on Paramount +. New episodes arrive weekly and the finale

1733
01:45:55.159 --> 01:46:01.689
will premiere on September 24th 2026. There you go.

1734
01:46:01.829 --> 01:46:04.850
There you have it, guys. That wraps up our show.

1735
01:46:05.109 --> 01:46:08.699
I tried to pick some stories and some things that

1736
01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:10.659
were relevant to this week's episode. I think I did

1737
01:46:10.699 --> 01:46:14.100
a pretty good job getting as much crim and as

1738
01:46:14.140 --> 01:46:17.619
much Muppets into one show as I possibly could. I

1739
01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:19.939
tried to find new stories and things that were relevant

1740
01:46:19.970 --> 01:46:22.600
and Because I have time to do that now that

1741
01:46:22.659 --> 01:46:26.640
I'm recovering from my incident. So I can do that now.

1742
01:46:26.760 --> 01:46:30.369
So I do it. There won't be a show next

1743
01:46:30.449 --> 01:46:33.569
Thursday because here in the United States it's Labor Day weekend.

1744
01:46:34.270 --> 01:46:36.489
I will be going up to camp and we don't

1745
01:46:36.550 --> 01:46:39.340
get good enough internet up there. So We will not

1746
01:46:39.380 --> 01:46:41.420
have a show on Thursday. That just means we're going

1747
01:46:41.439 --> 01:46:44.699
to be a week behind everybody else, which is fine

1748
01:46:45.050 --> 01:46:48.029
because the show only has four more episodes. That just

1749
01:46:48.069 --> 01:46:50.130
means we'll have an extra week to talk about Star

1750
01:46:50.170 --> 01:46:55.890
Trek when nobody else will. So that's cool. September 7th, actually,

1751
01:46:55.909 --> 01:46:57.789
we're going to be more than that because September 17th,

1752
01:46:57.850 --> 01:47:01.470
we're going to be talking to David Volkwise on our

1753
01:47:01.569 --> 01:47:05.770
toy show. That one we did just for Paul. So

1754
01:47:05.810 --> 01:47:07.770
if you guys have any questions or you want to

1755
01:47:07.789 --> 01:47:11.439
know what's going on with Star Trek toys or the Expanse,

1756
01:47:11.569 --> 01:47:13.819
for instance, which is a new toy line they're working on,

1757
01:47:14.340 --> 01:47:17.739
you definitely want to tune in on the 17th. So that,

1758
01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:21.079
my friends, wraps up this week's podcast. I just want

1759
01:47:21.100 --> 01:47:23.100
to say thank you to Paul for hanging out and

1760
01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:26.000
Trek talking with us. Thank you so much, Paul. Thank

1761
01:47:26.039 --> 01:47:28.659
you to David for making these awesome videos and being

1762
01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:31.140
a miracle worker. And happy birthday.

1763
01:47:32.090 --> 01:47:32.939
Thank you. It was very fun.

1764
01:47:34.149 --> 01:47:36.050
And thank you to Charles as well for hanging out

1765
01:47:36.090 --> 01:47:38.310
in Shrek talking with us tonight. Thank you, Charles.

1766
01:47:39.909 --> 01:47:43.699
Oh, always fun talking Trek, no matter how hot it

1767
01:47:43.779 --> 01:47:44.420
is outside.

1768
01:47:46.760 --> 01:47:51.140
Have you had any luck tracking down the Klingon magic

1769
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:56.970
card yet with Chang? The full decks have been hard.

1770
01:47:56.979 --> 01:48:01.449
The sample decks are hard to get a hold of.

1771
01:48:02.359 --> 01:48:05.199
So I'm waiting on a second deck, which I don't

1772
01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:06.060
think is a Klingon.

1773
01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:11.789
But the actual Magic set doesn't come out until November.

1774
01:48:13.369 --> 01:48:15.609
So it's going to be a few months before the

1775
01:48:15.649 --> 01:48:17.010
full card set come out.

1776
01:48:19.689 --> 01:48:22.970
Cool, cool. And thank you to V for hanging out

1777
01:48:23.010 --> 01:48:25.420
and Shrek talking with us as well. Thank you so much, V.

1778
01:48:25.430 --> 01:48:27.439
I'm glad to be here as always.

1779
01:48:29.560 --> 01:48:31.609
Did V get kicked off?

1780
01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:35.859
I love how her picture's frozen kind of mid-blink. She

1781
01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:36.399
looks very.

1782
01:48:36.539 --> 01:48:41.439
Thank you, V. And, of course, thank you so much

1783
01:48:41.479 --> 01:48:43.859
to Eric for hanging out and Trek-talking with us tonight.

1784
01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:45.340
Thank you so much, Eric.

1785
01:48:45.939 --> 01:48:49.020
Yeah, you bet, man. It's always a good time, and

1786
01:48:49.739 --> 01:48:51.539
you guys always can, like, put me in a good

1787
01:48:51.579 --> 01:48:53.060
mood by the end of the night. It's pretty cool.

1788
01:48:53.939 --> 01:48:59.619
Trek-talking. Trek-talking can do that, actually. I'm your most excellent host,

1789
01:48:59.890 --> 01:49:03.670
Uncle Jim, saying, everybody, please stay safe and be good

1790
01:49:03.710 --> 01:49:07.289
to each other. And Star Trek fans are the best fans.

1791
01:49:07.670 --> 01:49:09.550
Telling frequencies are closed.

1792
01:49:11.979 --> 01:49:13.460
We need a pajama episode.

1793
01:49:13.479 --> 01:49:15.260
Night, y'all.

1794
01:49:15.279 --> 01:49:16.779
I'm not wearing pajamas on screen.

1795
01:49:23.710 --> 01:49:24.909
Ready for warp, sir.

1796
01:49:25.689 --> 01:49:51.630
Hey, Beth. Thank you.