Aug. 14, 2026

Episode 694- SNW Human Best Friend: A Mixed Bag

Episode 694- SNW Human Best Friend: A Mixed Bag
In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the crew engage in lively discussions about their personal lives, fan interactions, and the latest happenings in the Star Trek universe. They share fan shout-outs from around the globe, highlighting the community's support and enthusiasm. The episode also features a poll regarding the potential for a Lower Decks movie, with overwhelming support from the audience. The hosts emphasize the importance of character development in any future projects. They delve into the latest installment of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, titled 'Human Best Friend.' They explore various themes, including the significance of cadet training, Easter eggs from previous series, and the episode's comedic elements. The conversation shifts to fan reactions, with ratings ranging from high praise to disappointment. The hosts discuss character development, particularly focusing on Scotty and Ortega's relationship, and express concerns about the overall direction of the series. The subjective nature of comedy in Star Trek is also examined, leading to a consensus that while some enjoyed the episode, others found it lacking in depth and coherence. The episode concludes with final thoughts and ratings from each host, highlighting the diverse perspectives within the Star Trek community. In this episode, the hosts discuss their mixed feelings about a recent Star Trek episode, highlighting both the disappointments and the few positives they found. They delve into the writing style, critiquing the reliance on gimmicks and tropes, while also celebrating the contributions of various sci-fi actors and characters, both past and present. The conversation wraps up with birthday wishes for notable figures in the sci-fi community, along with Uncle Jim's movie recommendations. In this episode, the hosts discuss various topics including the iconic performance of Dolph Lundgren in 'Masters of the Universe', the latest Star Trek news featuring William Shatner's upcoming heavy metal project, and the challenges of singing Klingon in 'Strange New Worlds'. They also touch on the potential crossover between Doctor Who and Star Trek, the release of Magic: The Gathering Star Trek Welcome Decks, and the possibility of a Lower Decks movie. The conversation highlights the passion and excitement surrounding these beloved franchises.
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I just love that. Well, guys, it is Thursday, August thirteenth,

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twenty twenty six. Welcome to Trek Talking and Beyond. I'm

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your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to episode six

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hundred and ninety or before we go too far, I'd

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like to go around the room and introduce my awesome

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trek experts, and we're gonna go out to Portland and

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start off with Paul the toy Guy. How are you

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doing tonight, Paul, Uncle.

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Jim, I'm doing quite well. How are you, sir? Doing?

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Feeling good?

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Live and kicking?

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Yeah, all right.

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As a step in the right direction, a man.

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Good to see you, good to be here.

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And we also we're gonna stick with a Portland theme

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and we're going to swing over the day. But he's

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our miracle work. And how you doing tonight, David working working,

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working for a living, You're taking what they're giving. I'm

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working for the weekends, you know, every every day of

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the weekend for me right now and sticking in Portland,

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We're going to say hello to Eric. How you doing tonight?

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Eric?

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I am doing pretty good. Jim, It's good to be back.

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It's been a couple of weeks and I don't think

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i've seen you since.

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I do not hear him, do you hear him?

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We can hear me.

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I don't think i've seen you since, you know, the

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big incident. So good to see you, buddy, and I'm

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glad you're.

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I have not seen you since the same incident. I'm glad,

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thank you. And not in Portland, but Genia, we have

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our very own v with us tonight. How you're doing tonight?

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Days, Well, I'm glad to be here as always, wanting

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this dreadful summer to be over and have cooler, dryer

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Some of stuff, they'd be here before you know it.

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we have charms. How you're doing tonight, Charles.

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I'm doing good.

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Everybody's kind of looking a little uh tree ish today.

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So the weather in my backgrounds a little better than

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what it looks like outside. Mom soon as you're passing through,

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so it's a little cooler outside, but it's human and

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who knows if the windsor rains are going to pass through, so.

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We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

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what else is going on? So tonight we're going to

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be talking about Strange New World, Season four, Episode three,

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My Human Best Friend. We also have our fan shout outs,

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and that's where we thank fans just like you all

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around the globe for being fans of Turec Talking and beyond.

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check it out directly coally to the one we're going

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to discuss tonight, and actor, do you share a birthday with?

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Find out on our side five birthdays and find out

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what Uncle Jim's anniversary movie pick of the week is.

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I guarantee you it's a good one. And what's going

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on around the Star Trek universe? Will we get a

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lower decks movie? We have Star Trek Magic, the Gathering

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cars coming out, a doctor who crossover ownA singing kling

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on and Shatner says, what, So, we've got a pretty

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busy show playing for you guys tonight. Don't go anywhere.

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We're gonna start out right now with fans shout outs

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and Eric's been away for a while, but let's see

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if he if he remembers how to do it, so

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take it away.

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Eric, Well, you know it's gonna be easy, Jim, because

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actually the first fan shout out goes to the last

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place I was hailing from Denmark. Doesn't say what city,

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but I was just in Copenhagen myself. Henrique has ahold

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to saying hello to us, featuring three Danish flags, not one,

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not two, but three Danish flags, likely to ensure that

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they cover each of the three Swedish crowns, because those two,

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you know, always it odds. Thanks for saying hi and

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supporting our podcast. Next, I'd like to say hello to Eric, Yes,

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one who spells his name the way that I like

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to see it spelled as well. Eric Geerhartz from Dendermonde, Belgium,

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featuring that Belgian flag for us. Eric, thank you so

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much for saying hello to us and for listening to

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our podcast. We really appreciate it. Sergio Miguel is getting

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his you know greetings in from Lisbon, Portugal, setting us

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Portuguese flag. Yes, and I live long and prosper. I'm

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seeing a theme here. Sergio, thank you so much for

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saying hello to us. It really matters a lot that

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people not only in the sort of European side, but

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like in the North and South and Central America in

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the areas also take care of us and listen to us.

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Of course, Portugal, Spain, all those places, lots of support there.

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And Di Vicki Scraga from Slovenia in Europe. I had

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to double check where Slovenia was, but now I see

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right where it is, Davini, thank you so much for

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supporting us from that location. I'm passing our shout out

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microphone over to v before I make too much of

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a fool of myself.

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Thanks viv Oh, leave me to make a fool, right Ah.

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So we're going to spin the globe and I'm getting

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a warm hello from Karen Teams from Atlanta, Georgia. Next

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Bill Busha from Appleton, Wisconsin says hello to us, and

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then Francis Emerson, who is saying hello from the Finger

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Lakes near Senica and Cayuga, just hours away from the

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Star Trek Museum. Uncle Jim would be would that be

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the one in tykwonder Roga, Yes, yes, that would be

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the one in Okay that's on my list to go

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to at some point in time. And then hello from

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Donnie Brady, West Virginia, USA, and real quick, I want

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to shout out in case two of my kids are watching.

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I just want to say hello to Momo and Hunt

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Bunt but little nicknames but anyway, So Hi guys.

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Hey guys, love you, thanks for listening.

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Yes, I'm all right, So passing this uh megaphone of

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some thank you over to Charles.

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The Let's start off with a warm greeting to Janhant.

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John Hancock from like right here in Las Vegas, given

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a live, long and prosper look John up. Don't recognize him,

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Vegas welcome nessor man dooc trucker from Anaheim, California. Pinoy

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Welcome each of you. As I passed the megaphone over

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to Paul, Thank you.

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Charles. That's one heavy, sweaty megaphone, but I am ready

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to lift it up and do my best. So all

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kinds of fans all kinds of latitudes, all kinds of longitudes,

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and there is enthusiasm for science fiction everywhere. A plethora

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of emojis from Buenos Aires, Argentina, our pal Ariel Villa

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is saying hello. I'm seeing coconuts, flags, vulcans, sunglasses. I

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can barely even keep track of all the emojis Ariel

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is throwing our way. So wonderful to hear from you.

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Argentina is definitely a place I aspired to visit. I

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understand that your incomparable steaks and wine could be found there,

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so always makes my list if you've got that to offer.

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Moving over to the continent to hiltip Brook in Sweden,

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our pal Jan Leuenius is there. Forgive my mispronunciation if

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that is the case, Yon, but wonderful dear from you

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Nordic countries. I believe our own friend Eric was recently

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in that part of the world. Eric, were you wreaking

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havoc in Hiltebrook at all?

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great city of Stockholm, which was one of my favorite destinations.

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You know, while you were gone, we did have a

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kind of a betting pool here going on the number

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of Trek talking business cards that you left various urinals

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throughout Scandinavia. I said, thirty. Did you get close to thirty?

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that the stack was about three quarters of an inch high,

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so that adapt too. They were liberally applied to many areas,

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not just the journals, but many other areas throughout all

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You know, can only imagine the mind boggles, Well, Scandinavias

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is responsible There you go. He might have had to

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swim to get there. But also from Iceland, Parla, Doug Bartar,

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here go, jos here is saying hello, so Parala. That

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is wonderful to know you're out there. I once was

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in Iceland for a grand total of about two hours

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on a refueling trip as a small child. But I've

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never had a chance to actually explore the island. I

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want to get back there and do it justice. A

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lot of friends of vacation there send back these ludicrously

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incredible pictures, so I think I'm missing out. Need to

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go back as an adult Perla, so you know, do

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whatever you can to arrange things from my inevitable return

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and back to the continent yet again, because there's no

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rhyme or reason how we do this, which sort of

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randomly for darksies and to hogsbing in Bavaria, Germany, Florian

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KOLBERTI is saying hello, So Florian, how wonderful dear from you.

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I hope things are good, you know, I'm I just

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can't help but notice from some various bits of signage

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in my own neighborhood that we are spitting distance maybe

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a month away from Octoberfest, because of course that happens

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in September, not October, as those ale aficionados amongst me

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may know. So I hope that's happening for you in Bavaria.

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The king of all octoberfests would be Eric's been there?

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Having you, Eric, You've done the thing.

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I have not yet been to Germany. That is a

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place that I haven't made it to yet. I do

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have family roots there and that's kind of next on

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the list.

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I can see you there man hoisting a you know, flagging,

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So okay, they want to make that happen road show.

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I will say that I've hoisted many a flagon at

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American october Fest status for.

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it's great to see that we have such an international

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contingent of trek and sci fi fans represented every week.

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So lovely to hear from everyone. And again, thanks for

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putting up if we misspronunciation mispronunciati five your home longitudinal course,

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wod job. We removed more use from words than any

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other country owner. Color used to have.

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and they take those elves very seriously.

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They will divert did.

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L like you.

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They will divert roads, which I love.

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I love that so much. Yeah, wow, I gotta have to.

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Look into this.

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You definitely want to know about the l's before you go.

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Okay, good. I'm a big believer in mythical entities. So

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there you have it. You know, depending on how organized

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their support system is, will leave it at back, say

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a lot without saying it's amazing. All right, let's pass

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things on to shut me up and we'll have Uncle

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Jim take over. Thank God, audience, you're welcome.

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So I will tell you Eric, you weren't here to

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hear this story. But when I was in the hospital

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recovering from my mother attack, they told me how to

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get up the walk and I had to drive my

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I ventured down the hallway and a pastoral and I

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was excited. I went in and used the math. I

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left a truck talking card in the hospital. So whoever

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picked up out there in New Hampshire, that was for yours, truly,

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Uncle Jim.

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I could have sworn you were gonna tell me you

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walked down John Deln.

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That's only that's that's.

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I hate to be a spoiler because this is Robbie,

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something that you know should have waited for, like, you know,

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a later date on you know, the Rate of Future podcast.

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But that very card, from that very urinal I just

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bought bay soon it was the condition was listed as used.

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Is that.

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Anyhow when it shows up, I'll be sure to present

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on the.

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Yeah, you're gonna laminate it.

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Laminated. I gotta touch it. Oh god, that's just just yeah,

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we'll leave it. You know what. Gosh, I'm sorry. Hold

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on a second. Look here it is the male did come?

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It is.

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It's a little it is. It is as advertised used.

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But wow, okay.

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It is new for a stick to the forehead.

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Yeah, oh my god. Well, anyways, back to our regularly

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You know me like no Wind, what you thought about

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the show? Then we try to share your opinions.

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With all of our minions there they listen, world, why.

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Tell us just what you think?

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Get together we will all t Canar and robulin A.

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I love that.

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I just you are you did the most incredible job

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with that video that I could. I couldn't have asked

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for a better video than that.

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Okay, what I love is just Frog is just you know,

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because who doesn't love him?

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Yeah, that's perfect. Okay, So Eric, you're ready to do

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a pall.

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Yeah, sure, it has been a little I think I

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can read it though luckily I have not lost those

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skills despite trying to interpret many different Scandadavian languages. That is,

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over the last few weeks. Would you like to see

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a Lower Decks movie? And this, You know, it's no

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surprise to me that ninety one percent people who responded

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our polls of course like duh, yeah, of course we

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want to see it, and not somehow nine percent said no.

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All I can figure is that only what ten people

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ten point want?

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No?

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That doesn't work out. Yeah, anyway, not very many people

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must have said no, is what I'm trying to say.

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But yeah, ninety one percent. So I think a Lower

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Decks would be great as a movie. You know, they

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would if they if they did a good job of it,

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which I think they would, they would keep it concise,

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they would have a good story. They would actually take

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the characters and move them forward just a little bit,

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because that's one of the things that can kind of

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happen is you sort of end up with the uh, Okay,

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we just had a movie and everybody's in the same

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place at the end of it that they were. And

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because Star Trek has a legacy of not doing that,

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they should do that in a lower Decks movie and

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make those characters end up somewhere else at the end

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of the movie, if they ever made.

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Let's hope that the new mobiles over the paramall I

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have half a brain and decide to do something. But

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we'll see what happens. So that's our poll for this week.

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You guys can vote on the poles heading over our

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Facebook from Talking and Beyond and I'll vote. There's all

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kinds of questions and things there that that I throw

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out there at you guys. All right, guys, now, Charles

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is going to jump in with some cadet training.

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Okay, thank you, Uncle Jim. And if people still wonder

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what cadet training is. These are different Easter eggs and

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stuff I find the episode this time. There's a lot

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more in just Easter eggs that occurred in this episode.

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Let's start off with where one place we could have

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visited and TNNG happens holiday back in season three is

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that's where we first learned about Riza and the vacation

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planet that Risa is. And if you looked real closely,

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we got a little bit of the animated series in

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there when we saw advertisement for the planet and saw

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animated versions of Spock and ericson.

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I thought that was a nice little catch.

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And then we could always say the original series, the

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animated series DS nine Discovery because we saw a trible

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I know David got excited because he saw a triple

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ts and lower decks. We're both places we got to

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see them, Mogtu and Starfleet Academy. We got to see

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the Magattu costume, which I'm wondering if it was reeslifted

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in this episode.

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It was actually reused from that episode.

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DNG relics Data says it's green, referencing a green Scotch

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with Scotty.

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Ts. Surely.

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Season one is another example of a strange Surely where

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they get to see different.

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Different characters appear.

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I think there were more mirages, but we saw a

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rabbit and somebody trying to fight Kirk Tos during the

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Babel in season two where somebody did attempt to sabotage.

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At Peace Treaty and tos and Naked Time.

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Season one, one of the occasuns where Kirk Slapspot and

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brings them back to his senses. See Paul there, I

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think he just fight at the fighting at the bit rate?

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Is it there? And say, okay, can we talk about

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this episode now?

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Please get that review over.

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With Charles before thank you Charles. Before we do, I

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do need to add a small asterisk to our get

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a training reference of It's Green. That Relics episode is

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actually the second time that's been sent because originally it

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was an original series reference from the excellent episode by

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any other Name where Scotty's trying to get the the

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Kelvin's drunk to lower their make them pray to their inhibition.

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So I always like to every whenever we go all

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the way back to the original series, it must be done.

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So this is actually the third It's Green reference that

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I know of in sounds good history. So just and

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I am gonna just say this segment of yours has

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been going on for a long time. Charles Cadet training

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needs a theme, Saw and I think now that Eric's back,

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we need to work on that.

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We need to have any Yeah, Eric, about that.

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Seventy game shows seventies.

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I thought he was gonna do nineties metal in the

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Shatner style.

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And you know, and we can dress you up in

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like with a you know, academic pointed hat kind of

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a thing, you know, like a mortarboard. I think that

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would be great.

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Well, actually, coincidentally, I think I just have one of

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those right here.

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I love it when a plan comes together. So I

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believe we're not talking about the Griffin incident, So I

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will ignore what it says right there, and I will

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instead talk about the episode. We all here to talk

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about what I believe is Episode three is for human

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best Friends. I'm just gonna do a very brief recap

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because I'm not really sure how I want to approach this,

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Frank Frankly, Brent, though it should be interesting, a very

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unusual episode, to be sure. PI takes the very stressed,

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overworked senior crew for Surely on a pleasure planet named Cessnar.

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And there is a atmosphere on this planet that is

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naturally intoxicating, leaving Engineer Scott and helmsman Eric Ortegas with amnesia,

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taking them on a wild kind of dare I say,

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hangover style mission to retrace their steps help sober up

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before high stakes peace negotiations can ensue. So what we

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have here basically is en route to these very crucial

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piece dogs Alpha Shift, which seems kind of to me

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like almost like a lower Decks reference, right, it could

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be off at this planet. It's kind of a tech

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free resort planet, where again the atmosphere is designed to,

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you know, naturally loosens everyone up when you go there.

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And so things begin where Scotty and Artegis wake up

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shockingly with no memory of the previous day, a bunch

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of chaotic references and tools everywhere, and this mystery that

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they have to figure out what the hell happened before

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these diplomatic arrivals that are of course coming sooner than

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want to expected them to, because of course they are,

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so they're trying to track down. They're very let's just

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say relaxed. Fellow crewmates, including a very partying Uvura, was

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on a journey doctor Mabenga who's working behind a bar,

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and Una who is doing klingon karaoke and track every day.

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They can't remember where they left their shuttle. Dude, I'm

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not sure what that might remind me of. It seems

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like it might remind me of something of the animal's

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motion picture history of a missing vehicle, but I'm not sure. Dude.

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Oh noow Ortegas and Scotti are bickering, and they're in

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this whole frenemies kind of thing, right, but they end

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up kind of moving into forest apologies, and Ouvor is

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really not helping at all. She just wants to sort

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of be the door guardian of this party she's throwing,

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and they just want to get their equipment back, and

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so eventually I'm just going to jump to the chase. Here.

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They fix a shuttle and uncover a video log of

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their own drunken cells explaining this mess, allowing them to bond,

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clear away past resentments, and get back in time to

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deal with these updight alien diplomats while Captain Pike has

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what seemed to me looked like a Mike Tyson tattoo

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on his face, but I could be wrong. Anyhow, that's

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a lot of what happened here. I'm happy to come

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back later and say more if you'd like to hear

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more of my thoughts on this, But that's just basically

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the recap there. Oh and it's the diplomats are referred

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to as the Rhodaxians. I think we're running out of

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inventive character names in the Federation possibly, But anyhow, that's

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kind of a quick recap there. I'm sure there's a

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lot more to discuss, and I'm anxious to hear what

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all of our other trexperts have to say about this episode. However,

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before we do that, here at Trek talking and beyond

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the pinnacle of our pyramid, is the fans right? So

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Eric is kind enough to interpret some of the wild

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ramblings enthusiastic keyboard hammering this that our fans share with us.

469
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:04.799
Is that right, Eric?

470
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.359
It is absolutely true, Paul. I love to hear what

471
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.200
the minions have to say about things, because really that

472
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.359
is the pulse of Star Trek and the pulse of

473
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.839
our podcast. So thank you for being our pulse, because

474
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.039
without you we have no pulse and be dead.

475
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:22.640
Yeah.

476
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:30.559
Thanks, thanks people. Sorry, I'm just getting a little bit,

477
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:31.960
you know.

478
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.559
I hear that when you go to Scandinavian countries there

479
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.039
is a darkness that descends on people, and apparently that's

480
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:37.400
a good I.

481
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.240
Can feel it, man, I can still feel.

482
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:46.559
It, all right.

483
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.039
That's okay, the happiest on Earth. I don't know.

484
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.960
It could have gone to Finland, but whatever, I went there.

485
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:56.480
Okay, all right, mind?

486
00:29:58.599 --> 00:29:59.720
Did you bring some business?

487
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.680
I put them in all five countries. I went to

488
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.599
five countries and five cities over two weeks, and I

489
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:11.759
left business cards everywhere. I'm telling you, okay, yes, So

490
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.519
our fans would love to share their opinions because they

491
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:19.880
are our minions. And Joe Sittig suspicions last name. Are

492
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.599
you related at all? I don't know, but Joe Sittig

493
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.839
says an eight. It was like a live action lower decks.

494
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.319
It's annoying how this whole cast is good at everything.

495
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:35.519
Thanks Joe. Juan Jakabo Yarce Valiz said eight. It was

496
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.359
great and funny, but the ending holds it back. Otherwise great,

497
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.880
Ellen Silber said, I read it a six. I like

498
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:46.319
some of the elements, like the klingon karaoke love songs

499
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.960
and the discord between the pilot and the engineer. However,

500
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.000
it had a convoluted plot and there was no cohesion

501
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.160
between the separate elements. This might have made a few

502
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:58.200
decent episodes without being mashed together like this. I wish

503
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.200
there had been better judgment as to what should have

504
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:05.400
been put together. Thanks Ellen. Debbie Cole said, I'm gonna

505
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.119
give it a seven point five. I loved the Scotti

506
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.839
Ortega interaction and UNA's Klingon song was great. I want

507
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.759
to be in the audience. And the Kirk Spock was

508
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.920
on track for future friendship development. We're gonna talk about that, Debbie.

509
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.640
I'm an old Trekker started September nineteen sixty six, and

510
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.559
I've watched every episode of Every Trek except section thirty

511
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.880
one question mark that was not track. Thanks Debbie. I

512
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:30.559
wonder what you thought of episode two. I would have

513
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:32.319
loved to have heard whether that was trak or not

514
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:36.400
for you. Kitty Wilford said, wasn't the best, but some

515
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.400
definitely some great character moments one point five as well,

516
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:44.079
Old Tricky as well. Jose Lopez six not just very

517
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:49.720
trek what a shame? Spacey, Steph maybe Steph Spacey loved

518
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:55.519
it eight whatever they were on. I want some Yeah,

519
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.720
sal Ricci six point five for me, but I try

520
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.440
to keep it in perspective. All the TOS episodes were

521
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.240
nines and tens either. Thanks sal for injecting some reason

522
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:10.400
into this whole reading system. Pamela Lochran said four. I'm

523
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:14.759
afraid there were some funny moments, and I like the

524
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.799
ending between Eric and Scotty, but too much irritated mean

525
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.480
e g Uhura and Pike. I think we may hear

526
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.559
more about that from some of our tr experts as well. Pamela,

527
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:28.000
thank you. And Virgil Cruz said eight. I really enjoyed

528
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.200
it as a sixty year Treky follower, yep, from the beginning.

529
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.400
I love the exploration of the universe and all it's possibilities.

530
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.559
My wife said, if this Kirk is gonna be is

531
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:42.119
going to do a beefcake scene like Satner, that he

532
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:43.240
needs to buff.

533
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:44.119
Up a bit out.

534
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.640
Oh well, you know, I mean nobody wants to see. Well,

535
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:55.759
I shouldn't say that, Thanks Virgil. Nancy Lucia Lopez at

536
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.119
eight point five. I always rate the episodes high because

537
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.319
I've enjoyed all of them about horror episodes, but I

538
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.839
did appreciate how well it was the episode was made,

539
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.599
how well the episode had made. I think. For the

540
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.960
latest episode, I was delighted from the moment they opened

541
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.079
the should door and everything went psychedelic. Hearing Una singing

542
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.559
Klingon was the icing on the proverbial cake. Having watched

543
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:23.240
TOOS when it originally aired than dozens of times more,

544
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.039
I loved the spot Kirk interaction. Personally, I have enjoyed

545
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.400
that Strange New Worlds has been pushing the limits to

546
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.440
create something new and fun. I miss this. I will

547
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:36.599
miss this show when it is gone. Mark Harvey said

548
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.000
a one I knew four minutes in it was gonna

549
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.559
be a shit show. What a racist episode making the

550
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.720
black chick a pothead, not to mention there was no

551
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.480
plot and the show went in one thousand different directions,

552
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:55.160
such a shame after last week's winner and then some

553
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.640
random characters of x's and z's and c's. Thanks Mark

554
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.599
and Angie rebel Booth said, I give it eight cactuses

555
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:11.440
and that gives us a rounded fan score of six

556
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:14.880
point eight. That is not going to win any awards,

557
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.000
but it is not in the pooper that as far

558
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.119
as I can uh tell so far, so I don't

559
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.559
know what do you guys think.

560
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:32.239
I loved her. I love the cactus rating too. Yeah,

561
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:35.519
yeah again, if you guys want your opinions to be

562
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.199
heard on the show. Go to Trock Talking and Beyond

563
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.119
on Facebook and tell it. In fact, tomorrow morning at

564
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.199
around eleven o'clock, I'll have that question up for the

565
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:49.079
episode that's on tonight. So like, over there, tell us.

566
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:50.679
Who wants to start us?

567
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.679
You haven't have been around, you haven't.

568
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:52.840
Been here in.

569
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.840
Okay, Yeah, I can definitely get started. So yeah, so

570
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:03.039
I I guess for me. You know, I was away

571
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:04.760
for a couple of weeks, and then when I came

572
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.880
back I quickly watched episodes two and three in a

573
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.840
back to back sort of way. So I will say

574
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.159
that right from the get go I suffered from a

575
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:18.199
little bit of what I'll call like episode whiplash, where

576
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.880
I was in one state of mind in one episode

577
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:26.840
and then quickly like whipped into another one. That may

578
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.239
have contributed to some of the reason that I kind

579
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:33.000
of enjoyed this episode. I'll give you my final rating

580
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:36.239
at the end here. But of course, you know, right

581
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.199
from the get go, it's pretty obvious that it's just

582
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:43.320
a everybody gets drunk and Shenanigans ensues kind of episode.

583
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.639
It immediately kind of brought to mine the Naked Now

584
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.199
from Next Generation, which not many people really like. I

585
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.639
don't really like either. I think there's a DS nine

586
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:59.360
episode where everybody's kind of drunk too. But what I

587
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.199
will say is that they had kind of already set

588
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:07.360
up this interaction between Ortegas and Scotty in previous episodes,

589
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:11.519
and I thought this episode was a good kind of

590
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:16.320
backdrop for them to be able to resolve their issues,

591
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.119
you know. I mean, I think we all sort of

592
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:24.079
either know or like overtly talk about how you know,

593
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:27.079
things like alcohol or whatever can be social lubricants. They

594
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:33.719
can bring people closer together when natural kind of artificially

595
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:37.639
made natural artificially made barriers that people think up to

596
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.039
put between themselves kind of come up and get in

597
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:41.960
the way of us just being human beings and kind

598
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.559
of enjoying each other's company. And so I thought this

599
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:49.039
episode was like like the whole like everybody's you know,

600
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.480
drunken high thing. I thought was a great backdrop to

601
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.719
tell the Ortegas and Scotty story. And I liked kind

602
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.719
of where they ended up at the end of things.

603
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.559
Did they waste a lot of time like recovering tree

604
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.239
quarters that they broke right away?

605
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:02.840
Yeah?

606
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.599
Did they waste a lot of time? Just sort of

607
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:08.119
walking around the ship and goofy things are happening, yes,

608
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.960
but in the end their character movement was kind of

609
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:16.280
worth it for me, So I like that. I will

610
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:22.880
say that it kind of related to that. I can

611
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.360
tell that Strange New Worlds has lost my trust a

612
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:28.320
little bit because I was worried the entire time I

613
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.840
was watching the episode that they were going to try

614
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.440
and shoehorn in some kind of romantic thing in between them.

615
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:37.119
I'm super glad that they didn't, but but the fact

616
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.519
that I was worried about it tells me that I

617
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.840
don't trust the writers right now. Whereas, like in previous

618
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.800
iterations of Star Trek, I may have said they would

619
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.320
never do that. That would be stupid because clearly that

620
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:49.840
you know, they don't need to introduce that into this

621
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.840
story between the two and men and women, despite what

622
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:59.199
Harry met Sally said, can actually be friends. So yeah,

623
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.639
I'm glad they didn't go there, but I'm sorry that

624
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.559
I had to worry about it the whole time. The

625
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.519
own thing was great, it was fine. The whole chapel

626
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:10.679
fight thing at the end, I didn't really get any

627
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.519
of that, and uh, you know whatever, I don't really

628
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.199
want to say too much more about that, but what

629
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.880
I will say is that the biggest place that this

630
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:24.480
episode disappointed for me was that, I think right from

631
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.400
the get go, law On was always one of my

632
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.719
favorite characters in Strange New Worlds, and I've always kind

633
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.320
of liked her, Like she's got a little bit of mystery,

634
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.760
she's got this kind of staunch independence. She's kind of

635
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.960
like surfing around trying to find things that make her

636
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.679
happy and that kind of stuff, And they've done a

637
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:42.679
pretty good job with her up to now, and then

638
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:48.119
this season it's like they've completely lost their way with

639
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:51.360
the law On character in terms of what they're doing

640
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.880
right now. Well, actually, the moment when I knew it

641
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.519
was all really going south was when she punched the dinosaur.

642
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.400
I didn't really get a chance to like talk about

643
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:03.880
that episode, but like when that occurred, I was like,

644
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:09.320
oh shit, Okay, so now they're doing that with her. Then,

645
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:16.119
like the last episode, there's the whole like activating her abilities.

646
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:20.039
She's worried about it, and as a result, she's like

647
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:25.920
almost murdering people and stuff. Stupid place to put that character.

648
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:30.719
And then in this one, I have to say, first

649
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.840
of all, I love Christina Chong. She's awesome, and also

650
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.400
she can't act drunk on camera at all. I didn't

651
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:41.000
believe a second of it that she was drunk at all.

652
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.559
So anyway, just really disappointed with what they've done with

653
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.760
the law On character. They need to turn that character around,

654
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.039
because she's an awesome character. And now the whole like

655
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.519
augment thing is all screwed up in my head and

656
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:55.039
I don't even know what's happening. Okay, let me close

657
00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:00.719
this out. Paul Wesley, you know, obligatory sort of here

658
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.119
he is, you know, put him in the story. Okay,

659
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:07.719
didn't believe for a second that. Well, actually, I am

660
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.440
also disappointed in the fact that apparently the beginning of

661
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.760
Spock and Kirk's like deep relationship is the fact that

662
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.559
Spock was high right and he like dumped on Kirk

663
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.800
and kind of told him everything. I mean, I guess

664
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.159
that can be the beginning of deep relationships. It's just

665
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.599
not the way I always imagined it maybe begin. So

666
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:34.239
this is canon now, so here we are. Yeah, So anyway,

667
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.239
I ended up in the end given this episode of

668
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.480
five out of ten. I laughed a lot watching it

669
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.559
the first time. I'm not gonna lie. I really enjoyed it.

670
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.400
I think some of what I enjoyed was based on

671
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.880
the fact that I absolutely despised the second episode, and

672
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:50.679
so I was looking for something to kind of lift

673
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.480
my spirits and this one did it right from the beginning.

674
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:55.800
If I watched it multiple times, I don't know if

675
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:58.400
I would laugh every time, but I really did laugh

676
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:02.079
a lot the first time. But aside from kind of

677
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.000
advancing the whole Lake Scotti Ortegas thing, there wasn't too

678
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.960
much else to it for me. So there you go.

679
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:08.880
That's my opinion.

680
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.880
All right. So Eric has spoken, and I think we're

681
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.119
going to pass the microphone over to V so we

682
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:17.519
can hear what we thought about this.

683
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:22.719
Yeah, well a couple things. I laughed a lot through

684
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:26.440
this too, I will say right off the bat, it

685
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:32.199
was kind of disjointed for somebody that has ADHD, kind

686
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.440
of hard to follow. But I think for me there

687
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.400
were a couple things that were relatable. One, I think

688
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.400
a lot of us have had that coworker where we

689
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:48.920
just you know, where you've just like butted heads with

690
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:54.440
them and sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. But

691
00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:01.239
for that planet, with that atmosphere, I need that to

692
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:05.039
happen in real life, that would just be that would

693
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:09.800
be great. One thing that I don't know popped into

694
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.239
my head that nobody else has mentioned.

695
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:15.960
That I was in sort of in.

696
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:21.960
I guess I had the I thought of fantasy island

697
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:30.920
because when Scotti and Ortega are realizing what that character,

698
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:34.400
nobody's mentioned Dave Foley either, he was. He was this

699
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:39.199
adorable little, you know, guy on the planet, this whole

700
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.119
salesman for his planet, you know, come here and have

701
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.440
lots of fun and get high and imagine all sorts

702
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:45.920
of things.

703
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:47.480
Mine mild with a plant, you know.

704
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:48.239
Ah.

705
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.840
But when they complained, he said, well, I gave you

706
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:57.039
what you asked for, And that was something that mister

707
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.280
Rourke always did, which, of course, by the way, we're

708
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.360
cardimental on and that whole connection.

709
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:04.760
So that that's what.

710
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:08.480
Brought to my what I what I thought it was

711
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:13.280
a little bit of fantasy Island in there. I just

712
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.239
laughed at the plants because, I mean, how many of

713
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.639
us have had co workers that week that were a

714
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.480
little more than we felt were a little more than

715
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:25.440
potted plants.

716
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:25.679
Right.

717
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.079
I'm glad that scott Ian or Tega were able to

718
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.480
work things out because that relationship will go a whole

719
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:41.559
lot smoother. And again going back to relating to work,

720
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:51.480
if you've ever had that situation, Una singing klingon, Yeah,

721
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.519
that was that was not easy to do. And since

722
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:59.320
we really re sorry, can't talk. We recently lost Bonnie Tyler.

723
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.280
Uh.

724
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:05.079
That was a nice tribute because you haven't experienced total

725
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.280
eclipse of the heart if you unless you've heard it

726
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:14.039
and cling on right, And I think that's the rest

727
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.719
of it gets a little bit kind of scattered for me, so.

728
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:21.039
Give me some laughs.

729
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.599
There were some relatable things, but I think overall I

730
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.360
would rate it a seven a seven.

731
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:34.719
So h we got seven from V and I guess

732
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:36.920
we'll just keep the trainer roll and we'll pop on

733
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.159
over to Las Vegas and see what Charles I had

734
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:39.480
to say.

735
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:47.480
Okay, one thing I did when I took my notes

736
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:51.960
was kind of get what happened everybody, and I kind

737
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.880
of went down the list. Scotty in a man manga

738
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.480
do costume. Of course we saw last seeing the STARTHI

739
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:00.280
Dekada me.

740
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:07.119
Versus the War College Spock and Kirk.

741
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.480
That was an interesting situation as Spock thought he was

742
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:16.280
looking to imagine a imaginary character.

743
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.280
UNA's party, HER's party.

744
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.400
It's got a sixties kind of give me an idea

745
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:30.199
of a sixties party. Una is singing Totally Eclips the

746
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:33.519
Heart by Bonnie Tyler in All Klingon.

747
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.960
Interesting doctor and.

748
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:44.679
Bega as a bartender, sort of a Tom Cruise throwing

749
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:53.519
the bottles around, probably getting tattooed, Laan as a defense

750
00:45:53.760 --> 00:46:00.800
fight group. And Chapel in a bingo game. Not sure

751
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:02.960
I understood why Chapel was in the middle of a

752
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:11.320
bingo game. Well, now we know kay spucking mind meld

753
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:16.079
with a plant and get the emotions and gets the

754
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:21.039
emotions and learn things from the Plant's like Okay, I'm

755
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.719
not sure if he was actually successfully did a mind

756
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.639
meld or it was all in his head, but that

757
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:37.159
was strange. And Pike Pike's tattoos. Pike Pike's the character that,

758
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.119
as Eric talked about Leon Pike is the character is

759
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:46.000
always in control. He's always got a good, dominant, strong kick,

760
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:53.079
strong captain character, And in this episode he was not bad.

761
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:56.719
And the piece talks.

762
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.920
He kind of was scattering around didn't really look like

763
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.920
he was quite intire what he was doing.

764
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:06.440
And took the two took.

765
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.000
Two stunt people to go through and almost and blow

766
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:17.440
up a shuttle to go and supposedly solve the problem.

767
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:19.960
Of the uh peace treaty.

768
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:30.079
And yes, I think I think uh Pike does need

769
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:33.199
to go see m Beg and get those tattoos removed.

770
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:36.840
That was not a good look for him.

771
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:43.559
And I guess I hate to do it, but I

772
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:47.280
guess we have to do the reference not in front

773
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:59.559
of the klingon with Kirk and Spock hugging, but I'll

774
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.880
look at the Swan like I was kind of thinking

775
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:02.920
the same thing.

776
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.199
The was doing about a seven for this one. It

777
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:10.679
was all right, but it just wasn't well going.

778
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:20.960
All right, So there we have it, and uh, what

779
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:23.480
do you say? We moved back over to Portland and

780
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.639
talk to David. What do you think, David?

781
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:34.800
Oh? Well, I do have to agree with v and

782
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:41.079
paul An apologized Charles and Eric. Uh. This particular one

783
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:44.960
kind of made me laugh quite a bit, especially when

784
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:48.400
the plant came up for some reason that that made

785
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:49.679
me giggle. I don't know why.

786
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:56.039
However, there was a lot of things that I thought was.

787
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:59.320
Very confusing in this episode. I didn't really enjoy it

788
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.960
as much as I thought I was going to because

789
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.920
we've been to how many pleasure planets now throughout the

790
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.920
whole universe of Die Track. You know, we had Risa

791
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:12.400
multiple times. We had a lot of things from cos

792
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:17.039
all the different series, and so for this one, I

793
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:20.920
think this was the very first episode that Stranger World

794
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:26.760
has done with a you know, relax and our kind

795
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:32.079
of thing. I don't know, I think they kind of

796
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.960
went a little over the top for my taste, and

797
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:42.760
to me, I think this one, uh yeah, the actors

798
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:48.360
did pretty good acting and whatnot. I actually the funniest

799
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:50.960
part that I laughed at the most was I know

800
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.719
that a lot of people could play the telephone game

801
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:57.639
and somehow come out with bomb to avocado. I don't

802
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:01.280
know what that happened, but yeah, that, for some bad

803
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:07.679
reason got me going pretty good. But let's see what else.

804
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:15.159
The idea that they kind of missed an opportunity. And

805
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.039
I'm probably gonna have to bring this up because this

806
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.440
is supposed to be the character Scotty, right when somehow

807
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.039
miraculously they transported them off what second from the subtle

808
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:31.280
to the trip, he somehow blew off his thumb. So

809
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:36.159
I'm like, okay, if anybody knows the character of the

810
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.440
original Scotti, he actually was missing a finger, so I

811
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.760
don't understand why they didn't just go ahead and do

812
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:47.599
that to indicate that, you know, he was missing a finger.

813
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.119
So I was like, Wow, they really miss an opportunity there.

814
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.000
But yeah, it's a little minor thing that I thought.

815
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:53.920
I burn up.

816
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.400
And as Child mentioned, Fox trying to mind meld with

817
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.480
a plant could have been all on his head and

818
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:05.000
maybe he actually knew where the shuttle was this whole time, But.

819
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:07.039
I don't know.

820
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:12.679
This particular episode somehow just got me thinking that the

821
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:16.280
season of Stranger the World has gotten a lot of stranger.

822
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:17.760
Sorry.

823
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:20.519
I did not enjoy this one at all very much,

824
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:25.480
and to me, I don't think I would rewatch it again.

825
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.840
When I was watching it, I was hoping for a

826
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.199
fun episode, and it was fun at first, but no,

827
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.039
I don't think i'd ever watch it again. So to me,

828
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:45.199
I gave the last episode the horror one three. I

829
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.440
am probably just gonna up this one by one point

830
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:51.920
and go with the four because it did make me laugh,

831
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:56.000
but I no, it didn't do it for me.

832
00:51:56.639 --> 00:52:03.119
So for well, David, I uh, unfortunately watched it three times,

833
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:06.639
So third time a third time really a charm. You'll

834
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.199
find out soon enough. All right, Paul, let's let's hang

835
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:12.719
out with our Portland crew and let's see what you

836
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:13.440
thought about it.

837
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:18.719
Okay, Wow, Well, you know, comedy is hard, right, and

838
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:22.599
the comedy is very subjective. What one person thinks is

839
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:26.079
hilarious and they just love another person may not. And

840
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:34.760
I just found this, uh, this episode. Yeah, I didn't

841
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.719
enjoy myself with this at all. It's I feel like

842
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.599
this episode is kind of symptomatic for me of kind

843
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.840
of the direction. I feel like I'm concerned about I

844
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.320
don't know, the stranger the world's this season. Right, It's

845
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:51.760
just like it's a great start with the season premiere.

846
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.159
But I mean, if you go through and you read

847
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:57.280
the you know, log lines for this season, everything is

848
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.519
like a new gimmick or trope episode of the week.

849
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:00.800
Right.

850
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.199
We're a horror show, We're we're a comedy show, we're muppets,

851
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:09.039
we're a soap opera. Right, It's like they you know,

852
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:12.920
I feel like the atmosphere of what we saw on

853
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.000
this planet, there's probably a lot like what the atmosphere

854
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.800
the writer's room is on this show just everybody's whims

855
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.760
are indulged and they can do whatever they want it.

856
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:27.519
It's awesome. I love seeing you know, dude, where's my car?

857
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.400
When I was high and you know, seventeen. I guess

858
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.199
that's maybe who they're hiring to write. I don't know,

859
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:35.280
but I just found this really. If I had to

860
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.599
describe this, you know, and I love comedy, I feel bad,

861
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:40.920
right because it's like I don't want to diss on anybody.

862
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:44.800
If you enjoyed it, God love you, power to you, right,

863
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:48.800
I think it's great. We need comedy and this weird,

864
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:51.599
screwed up dark age we live in more than ever, right,

865
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:54.760
So I don't want to, you know, deny people who

866
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:58.119
If you found this comic comedic, that's great, I'm happy

867
00:53:58.119 --> 00:53:59.920
for you. I did not. It's not Mike style of

868
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.800
comedy at all. It's not my style of Star Trek

869
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:04.719
or science fiction at all. I don't really get how

870
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:07.960
you call this science fiction, right, I really don't get it.

871
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:11.239
And it's this gimmick rotation that they're in where you know,

872
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:13.360
it's like, what the hell? I just don't get it.

873
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.400
So for me, I found it really at juvenile and

874
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:18.920
really annoying for the most part, I would say, right,

875
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:22.880
and you know, these little ridiculous things and the Bonnie

876
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.519
Tyler song, it's just like, that's great. You know who

877
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:28.599
Bonnie Tyler is. That's awesome. But recognizing that doesn't mean

878
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:30.039
that somebody wrote a good scene.

879
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:30.440
It's not.

880
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.960
And so I found it really just a complete waste

881
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.840
of time. I did not enjoy it at all. I

882
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.400
really hope that they can write the ship here. But

883
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.079
you know, I'm sure this is a lot of fun

884
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:44.800
for the actors to do. I'm sure that, boy, it's

885
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.880
such a good time making this episode. Of course you

886
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:49.480
did because you got to, you know, just do whatever

887
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:51.559
the hell you wanted to, like, you know, like you

888
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.559
went to a rave party and did m DMA for

889
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:57.159
the first time. Great. I'm sure that was fun too.

890
00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.400
But that's not what I expect from my you know,

891
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:03.880
a folks legacy science fiction. I expect better, and I

892
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.119
would hope that they do better. I watched this episode,

893
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:08.639
you know, and I got to be honest, right, I

894
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:11.199
love Star Trek in every way, shape or form, except

895
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:13.880
for section thirty one, which the last one night we're

896
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:18.519
talking about that again. But I mean, I wat I

897
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:22.239
watched this episode right, and why. One of my thoughts

898
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:23.840
at the end was just like, you know, I kind

899
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:28.159
of understand why they canceled this show. If this is

900
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.679
the trajectory that they're on, If the rest of this

901
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:33.880
season is going to be mostly this Russian roulette of

902
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:39.880
genres and indulgences, I would probably cancel it too, because

903
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:41.760
this is not what I expect from my science fiction.

904
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.920
And you know, no fault for the cast. They're doing

905
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.280
their best, but Jesus, you can be annoying as them.

906
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.199
You know, it's night, Paul. Can I ask you a question?

907
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:54.400
Do you think that this like season four? Like I

908
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:56.840
don't know exactly when they found out that they were

909
00:55:56.840 --> 00:56:00.000
being canceled, but do you think that this season forced

910
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.920
suffers from what some shows suffer from in their last season,

911
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:07.519
which is I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm just

912
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:09.800
going to do everything that I wanted to do, Like,

913
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.000
do you think that we're already there even though we

914
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.519
have a season and a half sort of ish like

915
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:15.280
left or.

916
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:18.519
I don't know, man, I don't know the answer to

917
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:20.320
that because there were a lot of episodes like this

918
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:24.159
last year for me too, right, the wedding bell Blues episode,

919
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:27.239
I believe it was with Trelaine Q whatever you want

920
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:29.320
to call him. That was a There were a lot

921
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.960
of episodes last season too that were just not so good.

922
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:35.199
You know, what it's done then it has taken what

923
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.639
I loved about the musical episode, which was that it

924
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:42.000
was a special little thing at that time that was

925
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.519
a little jewel because it was a moment when they

926
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.840
like took a risk and they did a thing and

927
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:49.400
it wasn't part of that episodic thing. And it's taken

928
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.800
that and it's completely ruined it because now they're trying

929
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:57.159
to like replicate that sort of like you know, they've

930
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.559
mass produced the musical episode, which was so at the

931
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.320
time that it was done, and now people in the

932
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.760
future will not understand why the musical episode was awesome.

933
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:06.840
That's it.

934
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:07.960
What's a moment in time?

935
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.559
Right? Yeah, I know, and I couldn't agree more. And

936
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.039
I think that's a part of the problem. So a

937
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:14.639
lot of it too is just you know, I don't

938
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:18.079
want to keep talking because I've done enough of that.

939
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.920
But I just I think overall what I concerns me,

940
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:24.719
you know, like the rotating genre thing, man, and what

941
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.559
you mentioned is I find that it is the cartoonification

942
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:30.880
of Star Trek that upset about. Right, It's just like,

943
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:33.119
and I don't that's not anything to do with the

944
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:35.400
animated series. That's not what I'm talking about, right, But

945
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:39.480
this very juvenile aspect of think Spock has become a

946
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:40.480
parody of Spock.

947
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:41.480
Right.

948
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.519
He's jumping in and out of bed with some broad

949
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:47.880
every week. He sees people as plants. He's mind melding everywhere,

950
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:52.559
He's making ridiculous jokes. He's nothing like Spock anymore. I mean,

951
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.920
I don't know where they're going with the character building,

952
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:58.360
but it's just not he's a parody of himself. And

953
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.599
Pike's kind of the same way too, right, with this

954
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.760
prepasterous hair. I mean, it's just it's ridiculous. It's just

955
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.079
it's cartoonishly nonsense. He's like a He's like if you

956
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:11.199
did the Mad Magazine version of Pike, Right, It's that's

957
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:12.039
what he would look like.

958
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:12.320
Right.

959
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:14.440
It's just it's I don't know what they're thinking of,

960
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.440
you know. I guess discipline is not something that I

961
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:19.519
should expect from the show anymore.

962
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:23.400
Right, It's gone to the point where it's distracting because

963
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.039
I remember in the first episode actually that he had

964
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:27.760
a little like fold that was a little weird in

965
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:29.679
his hair, and I could thought to myself, gosh, his

966
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:31.679
hair is nothing like right, And I was like, why

967
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:33.280
am I even thinking about his hair?

968
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:35.960
But compare that to how he when he showed up

969
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:39.440
on Discovery right in the first those custom anything like that.

970
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:41.719
It look like a regular human being, right, But now

971
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:43.199
he looks like a.

972
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.519
Dude who just smoked too much weed. Right.

973
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:47.639
So I don't know what the story is, but it's

974
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.000
just it's I'm very concerned. Like tonight's episode, Oh it's

975
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.000
black and white, it's a noir episode, right, I'm like,

976
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.360
it's another gimmick, right, And I'm just like, I'm really

977
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:00.079
tired of it. So I hope that they can fix it.

978
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:03.880
I am an optimist by nature. I really hope there's

979
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:10.239
at least maybe three more episodes this season that are good, hopefully,

980
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:15.679
and maybe they'll have a really satisfying, you know, consistent

981
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:18.320
arc through the last season to get you know, to

982
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.119
make it like a six hour movie.

983
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:20.440
If you will.

984
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.840
But the indulgences of it are just driving me. So

985
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.000
I'm afraid I have no choice but to give this

986
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:32.880
episode a resounding three and please get your shit together, Okay.

987
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.920
I mean, it's just it's embarrassing and it's juvenile, and

988
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.079
God love you if you enjoyed, it's just not for me.

989
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:40.960
So three yeah, uncle.

990
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.719
I just wanted to add something really quick to ahead.

991
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:49.119
I'm actually really worried about this particular last season of

992
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:52.960
this series because they're supposed to still go through the

993
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.880
story plot with him losing everybody. Is that going to

994
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:57.480
be all like in one episode or is that gonna

995
00:59:57.519 --> 00:59:59.519
be like in the last sixth episode of the last

996
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.159
I don't know, because the way it seems like they're

997
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:04.599
going is that they're using all of these different episodes

998
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.000
as fillers, and it seems like they're just kind of

999
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.280
like maybe they made these before they didn't know that

1000
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:13.440
they're going to be canceled, and so now they're just like, oh, shoot,

1001
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.320
we're canceled, and now we have to rest into that thing.

1002
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:18.000
And so that's what I'm really worried about.

1003
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:19.719
You make a good point, you know, and it's just

1004
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:21.559
it's not that every I mean, you know, I don't

1005
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.199
I don't want to come across as like the cranky

1006
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:25.679
old guy because I get tired with that rush a lot, right,

1007
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.400
but the premiere episode of this season, right, that script

1008
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.079
was so good. It was a strong enough story that

1009
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.119
it could have been a theatrical release if you made

1010
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.320
a movie where that was the story, right that they

1011
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:42.519
went back in time and they were responsible for like

1012
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:44.679
the destruction of the Earth and the dinosaurs and all

1013
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:47.199
that stuff. That was a good premise, a real science

1014
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:49.360
fiction story that was a strong enough story that could

1015
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:50.000
have been a feature.

1016
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:50.639
Yeah.

1017
01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:54.840
It's better than half the next gen features screenplays for sure. Yeah,

1018
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:57.079
easily better. I mean they could have this could have

1019
01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.280
been like a J. J. Abram script. I mean, really

1020
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:04.320
good story, strong, adult thought provoking. It was really really good.

1021
01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:06.559
And I don't know why you can have writing that's

1022
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:08.840
that solid one week and then the rest of it's

1023
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:11.000
just like, you know, written by interns. So I don't

1024
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:11.360
get it.

1025
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:14.960
Yeah, and I.

1026
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.440
Love science fiction. I loved comedy, don't get me wrong.

1027
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:20.079
I'm sorry. Just you know Uncle Jimsy to come in

1028
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:22.719
here as the voice of reason that you know, you

1029
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:25.679
know he's going to part the red Sea and calm

1030
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:26.199
the waters.

1031
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:28.320
If you're waiting for me to beat a voice or

1032
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.480
reason on this one, you got all the money. So

1033
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:36.760
I watched it immediately following our podcast last week, because

1034
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:38.480
I don't have to go to work right now, so

1035
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:41.320
I can stay up after the podcast and watch it.

1036
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.440
I was really excited. I sat there and watched it,

1037
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:47.519
and I thought to myself, w w t F is

1038
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:54.079
this the first time? The first time I watched it,

1039
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:59.360
I was like, well, what I think, dude? Where's My Car? Was?

1040
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.119
One hundred times? I was better than this movie? Okay?

1041
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:07.360
So yeah, So I went to bed pondering it, and

1042
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.719
I had to watch it again the next day because

1043
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:13.639
I'm thinking, to myself, this is Star Trek Man. It

1044
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:22.440
can't be that bad. So I watched it a second time. Yeah,

1045
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.360
it was that bad, but I had to watch it

1046
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:26.840
the third time because I got to give it a

1047
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:30.239
chance talk about it on the podcast. I gotta find

1048
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:34.679
something positive because I don't like being negative. So here

1049
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:39.320
it goes. Okay, Uncle Jim's positives and I'm painting Star

1050
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:41.360
Trek on the side of a turn. Here we go,

1051
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:45.719
all right. Top of the list for me, ain't number one.

1052
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:48.079
The only thing to save the show? You guys guessed it,

1053
01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:52.400
un a singing klingon that was the pinnacle of this

1054
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:55.920
particular show. And I'm gonna do a story on our

1055
01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:00.480
news section about that. That was the high for me.

1056
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:02.079
I heard the song right away and I'm like, wait

1057
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:05.719
a minute, is that no? Yes, no, yes it is.

1058
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:11.000
And so I love the fact that she sang total

1059
01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:14.079
Eclipse of the Heart in Klingon and they filmed this

1060
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:17.400
before Bonnie died, so this people are saying it's a tribute,

1061
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:20.480
but in reality it was a lucky guest because she

1062
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:24.239
was alive when they filmed this. So that was awesome.

1063
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:29.480
I thought, what else? Yes, Okay, when Scotty, Okay, I'm

1064
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.599
going to be reach and I apologize, but I'm trying

1065
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:35.760
to be positive there. When Scotty and Artagis were fixing

1066
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:41.440
the shuttle, they were not using Sears Craftsmen tools. The

1067
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:44.000
tools that they were using were not something you're going

1068
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:46.559
to go buy at the hardware store. You didn't see

1069
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:48.840
wires with wire nuts and things like that, because I

1070
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:51.440
was paying attention when he was pulling apart the shuttle

1071
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:55.199
and there was nothing there that I recognized, which which

1072
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:58.079
is really for me. That's a big thing. You know,

1073
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:01.679
when I see wey you're nuts and up screwdrivers and

1074
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:05.440
you know, you know tools from Sears on a show

1075
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:08.320
like this, I immediately just say, what the hell they

1076
01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:11.599
didn't do that? That's a plus for me. Okay, I

1077
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:14.880
told you I'm reaching, So this is mere each Okay,

1078
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.440
that's a plus.

1079
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:20.320
What you're saying, Jim is it was good that the

1080
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:24.280
episode was largely in focus, that the camera was actually working. Yeah,

1081
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:24.920
it was.

1082
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:25.760
It was a thing.

1083
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:27.719
Sears exists anymore.

1084
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.360
I actually grew up on camera. It was a good thing.

1085
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:35.159
So maybe it was maybe it was overshading the.

1086
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.880
Way we didn't need to show this thumb picture right here,

1087
01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:40.119
David that site I reject that.

1088
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:45.599
So the yeah, so that was cool. And Pike's face

1089
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.840
he had clean on tattoos on his face and it

1090
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:53.599
said hair today, gone tomorrow in plan. So that's what

1091
01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:54.800
his tattoos.

1092
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:58.840
Actually said, gorn tomorrow tomorrow. An even better.

1093
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:00.239
Than there go.

1094
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:02.280
Reaching.

1095
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:07.079
Yeah, I told you I'm reaching. Yeah, so that's what

1096
01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:12.679
I got for positives. Yeah, okay, so that was it

1097
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.840
for me. I was going to give this episode like

1098
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:22.039
a two, but you know, Rebecca's put so much work

1099
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.239
in the in the in the singing, in the klingon

1100
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:26.559
that I had to bump my score from a two

1101
01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:31.199
to a four just for the just for the klingon singing. Uh.

1102
01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:33.599
And that's probably the lowest score I've given an episode

1103
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.639
since we've been grading episodes. But I just I can't

1104
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:40.719
go any higher. The episode was total I just no

1105
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:48.519
no I yeah, garbage. Yeah. Okay, So someone comes aboard

1106
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:52.440
to show. Now someone can explain this to me. They

1107
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:56.719
steal the settle to sabotage the peace talks, right, Okay,

1108
01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:02.400
they put they sabotage the peace talk with fireworks that

1109
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:08.480
resemble the great awesome historical piece enhoy explosion of the

1110
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:11.400
civilization that's going to bring them together.

1111
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:15.880
But dude, that's part of that's listen. Listen. It's clear,

1112
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:18.480
Like it's very clear they're leaning into these tropes of

1113
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:20.719
movies like The Hangover, right, And the thing about those

1114
01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:22.920
movies is not the fact that people are just drunk

1115
01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:25.320
all the time. It's the fact that while they're drunk,

1116
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.320
really lucky, weird shit happens to them, and that's the

1117
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.840
funny part of the story. Right, So they had to

1118
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:35.159
have something like the firework thing for it to even work,

1119
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:37.280
because that's how those tropes work.

1120
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:42.039
See, I must be really old, because again I never

1121
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:44.440
saw that movie, so or.

1122
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:46.960
Whatever, dude, Where's My Car? Has the same exact thing, Like,

1123
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.159
we're lucky shit happens. Because that's the funny part of

1124
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:53.280
the story that even when you're drunk and stupid things

1125
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:55.599
are happening and you have no control over your life,

1126
01:06:56.039 --> 01:06:58.280
you still come out at the end of the movie. Okay,

1127
01:06:58.719 --> 01:06:59.920
because that's American movie you make.

1128
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:06.800
Why Why would Starfleet send their officers to a planet

1129
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:08.960
where they get so inebriated that they can just like

1130
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:10.840
to give away secrets?

1131
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:13.719
I know what they You know what they should have

1132
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:16.239
done with this episode, guys, was they should have shown

1133
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.880
how this episode directly leads to things like synth the

1134
01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:23.440
Hall being developed in TNG. Yeah, that's what they should

1135
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.280
have absolutely so.

1136
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:28.639
And to Paul's point, I think we talked about this.

1137
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:30.880
I think it was last week when you weren't here, Eric,

1138
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:33.800
and that was the fact that Strange New World is

1139
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:38.199
leaning into the gimmicky stuff and they're more concerned with

1140
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:40.960
with with the different styles and the different tropes, the

1141
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.719
different gimmicks than they are being Star Trek, and that

1142
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:47.519
worries me. Once in a while. It's fine, but every

1143
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:51.840
single episode, come on, guys, write a Star Trek episode

1144
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:54.519
and if it turns out to be funny like Star

1145
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:57.519
Trek four, great, If it ends up to be incredibly

1146
01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:02.639
awesome like Starstrek five, even better. But just have fun

1147
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:04.960
and write Star Trek and let it, let it play

1148
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:09.239
out itself, and stop trying to intentionally make it into

1149
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:14.039
something else. So I'm sorry. I wish I had more

1150
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:17.399
good stuff to say about it, but I don't. Sorry.

1151
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:17.880
I tried.

1152
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:20.560
Well, I have to say, Jim like, just to close

1153
01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:22.840
it out for me, I've I find it a little

1154
01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:26.479
hard to believe that the tre experts liked last week's

1155
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:29.479
episode better than this week's though that that that even

1156
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:31.359
disturbs me just a little bit. It's only point two,

1157
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:35.359
it's five point two versus a five, but that's very close.

1158
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:38.079
Do we feel like, as a group we liked the

1159
01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:42.640
last two episodes exactly the same amount more or less

1160
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:46.920
last week?

1161
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:49.079
Last week much better?

1162
01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:54.319
Yeah? I thought last week it was a lot better

1163
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:57.840
than this one. All right, Yeah, well, I.

1164
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.800
Mean this week was now even worse.

1165
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:09.560
Amazing this episode of VO said last week, Now.

1166
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:11.640
What do we got, Chyles, how do we compare the

1167
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:14.880
to our minions?

1168
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:17.880
Well, as you heard Eric say, by the way, our

1169
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:21.840
score from last week, Eric gave us an update. So

1170
01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:24.479
last week's score went from I think it was about

1171
01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:29.319
a six to a five point two and to improve it,

1172
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:33.800
the fans gave it a six point eight and the

1173
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:35.039
truck Sperts gave.

1174
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:35.800
It a five.

1175
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:40.159
You're talking this week.

1176
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:45.279
This week's this week that last week. Last week's was

1177
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:47.880
an eight point three versus a five point two, So

1178
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:51.760
huge swing in what the public thought and what the

1179
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:57.199
truck sperts thought on average this week swing.

1180
01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:02.640
There you have it. Okay, guys, so tune in next time.

1181
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:07.760
We're going to talk about another gimmicky episode. Okay, So

1182
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:12.039
now now it is time for our Cy five birthdays.

1183
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:35.079
David roll the tape that was not a song? All right, guys.

1184
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:37.960
As you know, every week we start off I remembering

1185
01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:40.760
those members of our sci fi family who, sadly enough,

1186
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are no longer with us, and for that we turned

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01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:44.960
to Jim.

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This week we start with actor Steve Inhat, the actor,

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01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:52.479
writer and director who played Fleet Captain Garth in the

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01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:56.800
Star Trek Original series third season episode Whom Gods Destroy.

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01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.640
Originally born in Czechoslovakia, but immigrated to Canada with his

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01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:06.000
family and eventually made his way into the film industry.

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01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:11.760
Really amazing career for the very short life that he

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01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:14.199
actually lived. Unfortunately we lost him when he was only

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01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:18.199
thirty seven years old, and yet during that time he

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01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:20.920
worked in a couple of movies. He worked as a

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01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:25.560
guest star on several television shows throughout the sixties like Bonanza, Gunsmoke,

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01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:29.239
and Mission Impossible, and he also directed a pair of

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01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:32.960
films nineteen seventies Do Not Throw Cushions in the Ring,

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01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:36.399
which I have not seen, in nineteen seventy twos The Honkers,

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01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:39.239
which I also have not seen. He starred in the

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01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:42.880
former film along with Sally Carter, whom he married on

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01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:46.279
twenty third of May nineteen seventies. So a busy man

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01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.319
to have unfortunately left this planet when he was only

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01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:53.560
thirty seven years old. Happy birthday to Steve Inht, Happy

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01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:57.560
birthday as well to Jeff Corey having a birth name

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01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:01.159
of Arthur Zwerlig. He of course played and places in

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01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:06.159
the original series third season episode The Cloudminders. He made

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01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:10.239
over two hundred film and television appearance appearances in a

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01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:15.039
career that spanned sixty one years. His early career included

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01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.640
appearances in a bunch of movies, including nineteen forty six

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01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:21.319
as The Killers. And if you haven't heard of that one,

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01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:25.000
perhaps you've heard of Miracle on thirty fourth Street from

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01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:27.800
nineteen forty seven. Yeah, there are a couple other ones,

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01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:32.319
including True Grit are the best movies ever made. Corey

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01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:35.640
was among the many actors affected by the government's quest

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01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:39.600
to seek out people who they thought were communists. Yeah,

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01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:41.680
he was one of those guys that was blacklisted back

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01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:44.960
in nineteen fifty one for refusing to name names which

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01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:46.399
he wouldn't have known anyway.

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01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:47.039
Uh.

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01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.319
After being blacklisted, Corey worked as an acting teacher for

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01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:53.960
twelve years and was even one of Leonard Nimoy's early

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01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:59.279
acting coaches. So pretty cool, Jeff Corey. Happy birthday to you, sir.

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01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:01.760
We miss you and it sounds like you had a

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01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:05.479
really interesting career and I love your makeup and awesome

1227
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:10.239
gray hair in that episode Happy Birthday as well to

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01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:14.159
Charles Cooper, whose middle name, no kidding is Darwin. Yes,

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01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:18.720
Charles Darwin. Cooper was the actor who portrayed Chord Chord

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01:13:19.119 --> 01:13:22.920
with two rs in the Weirdest Star Trek movie Star

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01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:26.920
Trek five, The Final Frontier. He also played kem Peck,

1232
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:30.239
a much better role, in my opinion, in the Next

1233
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:33.039
Generation's third and four season episode Sins of the Father

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01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:36.359
and Reunion, one of the coolest Klingons out there, kem

1235
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:41.399
Peck was awesome because he was not a perfect king

1236
01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:46.199
on at all. He also played Detective Matthews in The

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01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:49.279
Wrong Man from nineteen fifty six and played Ed Cobb

1238
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:52.199
and blayin Fury in nineteen eighty nine. He enjoyed the

1239
01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:56.479
reoccurring role of Judge Robert Bouchet on the legal drama

1240
01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:00.000
Practice Back in the Day. We lost him in twenty thirteen,

1241
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:02.800
but he did live to be the ripe old age

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01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:05.000
of eighty seven years old, which is pretty awesome. So

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01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:12.439
happy birthday to Charles Darwin Cooper, a man of evolving talents,

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01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:12.880
I'm sure.

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01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.720
And the last story here, please.

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01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:21.680
Oh my god, please do yes? You know urinal no,

1247
01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.000
I please.

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01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:26.880
Damn it. I want a story that doesn't.

1249
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:27.199
Have a hurdle.

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01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:35.720
So h way way back in nineteen ninety three, when

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01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:40.439
I was wearing Star Trek Convention for five in the

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01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:44.720
best star truck movie ever made, I decided that I

1253
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.359
was gonna have some clean on. So I reached out

1254
01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:50.720
and had Charlie Cooper at my convention. It was the

1255
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:54.960
first Star Trek convention he ever attended, and he was

1256
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:57.640
shocked at the amount of people that came to see

1257
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:02.920
him dressed up as On that remembered him because he

1258
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.479
was wearing so much makeup, and he was just blown

1259
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:09.319
away by the Star Trek fans and the outpouring of

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01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:13.039
love for him for playing a Klingon. He was totally

1261
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:18.720
unprepared for it. Nicest man you ever wanted me, and

1262
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:23.600
he was totally surprised by the outpouring from Star Trek fans.

1263
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:30.000
So that that's my Charlie Cooper story. So Regular program.

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01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.159
I mean, it is pretty cool that he's in that

1265
01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:36.439
kind of classic Star Trek five pose, you know, of

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01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:41.760
him and Vixus and what's the other male Klingon dude's name?

1267
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:42.840
What Ca?

1268
01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:47.920
Yeah, I mean, it's come on, Paul. It's like a

1269
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:50.520
cool pose, you know. And we've had Vixus on the podcast,

1270
01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:53.319
so I like to support her as well. All right, So,

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01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:57.600
Charlie Cooper, thank you for all of your Star Trek contributions.

1272
01:15:57.600 --> 01:15:59.399
And last but not least, we would like to honor

1273
01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:03.279
Jane Wyatt this week. The Emmy Award winning American actress

1274
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:07.680
who played Amanda Grayson the og in the TOS second

1275
01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:11.520
season episode Journey to Babel and again in Star Trek

1276
01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:15.960
for the Voyage Home. Jane Wyatt, of course, came from

1277
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:21.840
a theater background and made her film debut in director

1278
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:25.640
John James Wales Excuse Me One More River from nineteen

1279
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.439
thirty four. She went back and forth between Universal and

1280
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:32.600
Broadway studios throughout her film career, and in the nineteen

1281
01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:35.199
fifties she also co starred with Robert Young and Father

1282
01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:38.720
Knows Best from nineteen fifty four. Remember that show, Yeah,

1283
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:41.760
the classic sitcom chronicling the life and times of the

1284
01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:47.439
Anderson family in the Midwestern town of Springfield. Jane Wyatt,

1285
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:50.880
you will always be spox moom to me, although many

1286
01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:54.039
have done a good job of following in your footsteps.

1287
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:56.560
She lived to be the ripe old age of ninety

1288
01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:59.039
six years old. We lost her way back in two

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01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:03.159
thousand and six. Happy Birthday to Jane Wyatt, and that

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01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:05.640
does it for our remembrances. Thank you to all I

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01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:07.600
have gone before us, and I would like to pass

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01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:12.119
this flaming birthday candle which is burning slowly and reasonably

1293
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:13.199
over to Vava.

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01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:16.079
All right, thank you eric on My first.

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01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:23.359
Happy Birthday goes to David Dukovney. He is an actor, writer, director,

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01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:28.199
and musician, and he received his breakthrough with the role

1297
01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:33.439
of Fox Molder in the ex File franchise, receiving international

1298
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:37.600
fame and earning a Golden Globe Award as well as

1299
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:43.239
nominations for two Primetime Emmy Awards and five Actor Awards.

1300
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:47.800
He received another Golden Globe for his portrayal of Hank

1301
01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:55.840
Moody on the series Californication. Okay, and I Racine in

1302
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.920
the sci fi comedy film Evolution. Ye.

1303
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:04.520
I watched ex File boy. That was some creepy stuff.

1304
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:07.760
I want to believe that was his whole thing.

1305
01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:09.880
The truth is out there, yes, right it is.

1306
01:18:10.119 --> 01:18:15.920
It is now next somebody who I actually got to

1307
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:24.000
meet last September. Happy Birthday to the Rock Loston. He

1308
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:28.760
actually got the role of Jake Cisco. He started the

1309
01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:32.720
show when he was only fourteen and he.

1310
01:18:32.520 --> 01:18:34.479
Grew up before our eyes.

1311
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:38.399
But he was in DS nine and he also had

1312
01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:42.680
a guest role on the Star Trek Starfleet Academy first

1313
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:48.319
season episode series Acclamation mill Well. He was a regular

1314
01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:52.319
cast member throughout all seven seasons of DS nine. He

1315
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:56.000
only appeared in seventy one of his one hundred and

1316
01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:59.880
seventy three episodes, David, if you can show that, pick

1317
01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:03.880
sure where I got to meet him. This is he's

1318
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:07.479
tall because I'm like five to seven and he's he's

1319
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:12.279
definitely tall. Uh Men. I met Star Trek new Jersey

1320
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:17.520
last September. One of the cool stories that he told me, No,

1321
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:22.600
this did not involve but a urinal so I promise

1322
01:19:22.720 --> 01:19:27.760
you that. But he did tell me that he because

1323
01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:32.680
I think many of you know that he uh, I

1324
01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:35.279
can't think of his name now, Avery Brooks, who played

1325
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:39.479
his father on the show. They really had a very

1326
01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:43.720
very close relationship and Avery was like his second father

1327
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:49.159
and they have kept in touch since the show ended.

1328
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:51.560
And he told me that.

1329
01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:55.119
He speaks to Avery every single day.

1330
01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:57.640
So I think that was really cool.

1331
01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:01.439
How you know the show, You know how so many

1332
01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:03.640
of these shows you hear that they are a family,

1333
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:09.840
and then in this case, you know he still talks

1334
01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:14.279
to his TV dad every single day. So Happy birthday

1335
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:19.600
to Sarrock. Next, Happy Birthday goes out to Amanda mc broom.

1336
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:27.399
She played Captain Philippa Luvoy in TG second season episode.

1337
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:28.039
The Measure of a Man.

1338
01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:38.600
Where they were contemplating data's sentience or not. Next, Happy

1339
01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:44.600
Birthday goes to Chris Hemsworth, Australian actor who played George

1340
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:49.439
Kirk in Star Trek, best known to audiences for his

1341
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:56.479
portrayal of four in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And then, last,

1342
01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:01.920
but certainly not least, Dawn Lewis, Happy birthday to you.

1343
01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:08.079
She's an American actress, singer, voice actress and songwriter who

1344
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:13.479
voices Captain Carol Freeman in Star Trek Lower Deck. For

1345
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:17.000
her work on the first season of the series, she

1346
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:24.159
was nominated for an NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Character

1347
01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:30.279
Voice Over Performance and won an Outstanding Actress Animated Program

1348
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:37.119
Woman's Image Network Award. So Happy birthday to Dawn, all right,

1349
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:41.720
next to the flaming birthday Candle gets flung over to

1350
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:47.000
the other side of the country to Paul, Thank.

1351
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:51.319
You, b appreciate the pyrotechnics there. That's most excellent. So

1352
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:54.840
let's say, first of all, hello and happy birthday to

1353
01:21:55.479 --> 01:21:58.640
Brett Gray, actor and singer who voiced dal Rail in

1354
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:03.079
Star Trek Prodigy song Darling. I think of some of

1355
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:06.720
the current crops of Star Trek people just don't get it.

1356
01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:11.119
They was not enough people acknowledge how good Prodigy is,

1357
01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:14.600
really well done, show gets dismissed as a kids program,

1358
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:19.000
not the case, well written, beautifully designed, really entertaining his help. So,

1359
01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:21.800
if you've not watched Prodigy yet and you're bemoaning all

1360
01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:25.000
the loss of the stuff that's going on there on

1361
01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:27.600
Paramount Plus, track this down, though you may have to

1362
01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:29.800
get a physical copy of it thanks to the nefarious

1363
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:34.760
behind the screens dealings going on over there, because reinforces

1364
01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:37.439
the important to physical media. But I love Prodigy, got

1365
01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:39.960
it all. I think it's great, excellent, and I thought

1366
01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:42.880
that Brett Gray did a wonderful job, really really really

1367
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:47.239
well done. So congratulations, Happy birthday, Long live your career, sir.

1368
01:22:48.039 --> 01:22:52.039
Happy birthday to the wonderful Charlie's. Charlie's They're all let

1369
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:56.680
me get my pronunciation down here correctly. Academy Award winning

1370
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:04.159
South African American model and of course, very very powerful

1371
01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:08.800
producer who played Meredith Vickers in the twenty twelve film

1372
01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:15.800
Prometheus from Ridley Scott Road war Imperator Furyosa in George

1373
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:19.279
Miller's phenomenal Mad Max fury Road. If that is an

1374
01:23:19.279 --> 01:23:22.000
incredible movie if you've not seen it. She originated that

1375
01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:26.720
character there, and of course, very very recently mythical nymph

1376
01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:31.600
Calypso in Christopher Nolan's epic action Opus The Odyssey, where

1377
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:34.800
she is just tremendous in there. Of course, let's not

1378
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:38.000
forget her Academy Award winning work though or she produced

1379
01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:42.800
and starred in the amazing picture Monster, where she played

1380
01:23:43.079 --> 01:23:47.600
real life serial killer Eileen Warnos. Absolutely amazing production. She

1381
01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:51.520
did incredible work in that always important technology these things,

1382
01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.640
but she's just great and really did a phenomenal job,

1383
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:56.319
as everybody did in the Odyssey.

1384
01:23:56.720 --> 01:24:00.640
pH I just literally saw it last night and it

1385
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:03.399
was so good. It was one of those like movies

1386
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:06.680
where you're like you've been there a while, but when

1387
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:09.119
it's over, you're just like, oh I still want more.

1388
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:10.119
So good.

1389
01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:11.960
Yeah, do you go to the Hollywood.

1390
01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:15.520
I actually saw it at a at a digital screen,

1391
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:19.520
big digital screen, but which I feel kind of dirty saying,

1392
01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:22.000
but I typically, but I promise I will go see

1393
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:22.760
it at the Hollywood.

1394
01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:27.319
I saw it at Yeah.

1395
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:28.600
Yeah, it's huge.

1396
01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:31.000
Yeah, it's huge, you know, I mean the Holly. So

1397
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:34.159
for a context, everybody in Portland the Hollywood is the

1398
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:36.640
theater in town where you can see this in seventy millimeter,

1399
01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:39.840
which of course is always a special experience. The Hollywood

1400
01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:42.239
is an amazing theater. They own their own prints of so

1401
01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:45.479
many cool like seventy millimeter movies from back in the day,

1402
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:47.199
and they're the only place in town as far as

1403
01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:50.159
I know, that you can actually see seventy millimeter on

1404
01:24:50.239 --> 01:24:52.600
the screen. So yeah, and it's currently playing, it's been

1405
01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:53.960
playing since it opened.

1406
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:57.279
So yeah, it's a juggernaut. It's such a good it's

1407
01:24:57.319 --> 01:25:00.600
really amazing, and fans, if you love fantasy and any

1408
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:03.920
kind of filmmaking at all, do not wait to see

1409
01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:08.640
this on home video. You want the communal film experience

1410
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:11.119
in the theater with people. It's really amazing, so highly

1411
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:14.640
you highly recommend it. And it's just Fairlie is just

1412
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:17.079
one of many great performers in there, So congratulations on

1413
01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:23.079
yet another wonderful role. V was just touting David Duchovny

1414
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.359
and well, I'm telling you we got X files coming

1415
01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:27.760
out of our ears here lately. Because it's my great

1416
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:31.920
pleasure to wish a happy birthday to X Files goddess

1417
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:37.199
Jillian Anderson. Okay, where she just rocketed to international theme

1418
01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:41.680
as special Agent Danas Scully in The X Files, winning

1419
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.560
a Golden Globe for her role on the show and

1420
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:50.840
launching the careers of literally thousands of young women who

1421
01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:55.520
moved into careers of both law enforcement and medicine as

1422
01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:58.039
a result of being inspired by Dana Scully. You hear

1423
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:01.279
this all the time. I into medical school because of

1424
01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:05.159
Danish Elly. I mean, really, it's just phenomenal, phenomenal performer.

1425
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:09.079
She's just done so many great roles. The Last King

1426
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:12.000
of Scotland, which is a really great role she had.

1427
01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:16.000
She plays sex therapist Gene Milburn in the comedy drama

1428
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:21.600
Sex Education, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in The Crown.

1429
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.199
She got another Golden Globe for that. He's just a

1430
01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:29.600
remarkable performer. I just found this out really recently. I'm

1431
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:34.159
not sure which networkers doing this, but somebody's doing a

1432
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:37.159
like a five part mini series remake of the Boys

1433
01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:41.000
from Brazil and Jillian Anderson is in that as well.

1434
01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:43.800
So she's just amazing. Any chance to watch her, I

1435
01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:48.239
just think she's just a really phenomenal performer. And then

1436
01:26:49.640 --> 01:26:54.439
even more exciting. Ryan Kugler, right of Black Panther and

1437
01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:58.000
Sinners fame. He's quietly working on her new reboot, a

1438
01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:01.800
reimagined version of the X Files with all kinds of

1439
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:05.640
interesting folks in the cast. On that really really great

1440
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:09.439
that he's got like Amy Madigan in there, Heimish Patel,

1441
01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:14.359
all kinds of good folks. But yeah, it's coming, I

1442
01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:17.600
think probably not till next year. He's got all kinds

1443
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:20.920
of interesting people in there, though, he's got like Steve

1444
01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:24.119
Bussami's in it, Ben Foster, a lot of interesting folks,

1445
01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:28.239
Tantu Cardinal and rumored we don't know yet, but rumored

1446
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:30.520
that Gillian Anderson is going to be doing a Canada

1447
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:33.359
so we can cross our fingers if you can't wait.

1448
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:36.119
The second X Files movie really took it on the

1449
01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:38.920
chin when it came out in theaters. Was heavily edited,

1450
01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:42.159
and they're making a big value that Chris Carter re

1451
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:44.800
edited it and it's going to come out it's more

1452
01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:49.399
gnarlier on an edited format. I'm pretty sure it's tomorrow

1453
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:52.279
on the Hulu channel. So if you're an X Files fan,

1454
01:27:52.600 --> 01:27:54.720
it's a chance to go see an X Files movie

1455
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:56.920
the way Chris Carter really intended it to be and

1456
01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.720
never has been screened before, so check that out and

1457
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.920
see some more good work from Birthday Girl Gillian Anderson.

1458
01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:04.680
I'm pretty sure Uncle Jim will be watching that this

1459
01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:08.800
weekend because I know he's a Smiles fan. So very

1460
01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:10.840
great and wonderful to be able to wish her a

1461
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:15.119
happy birthday. Moving on, Bruce Greenwood, We Love You. A

1462
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:18.479
Canadian actor and musician as well, who played Christopher Pike

1463
01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:23.319
in the JJ Abrams films before Pike was resurrected as

1464
01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:25.840
a TV character in both the two thousand and nine

1465
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:29.279
Star Trek and then Star Trek Into Darkness in ninety two.

1466
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:32.479
He was also briefly considered for the role of Benjamin

1467
01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:36.039
Cisco in Deep Space nine back in the early days

1468
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:39.199
before they went in the direction that they did. But

1469
01:28:39.399 --> 01:28:43.560
really chalented actor, super cool dude, just one of those

1470
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:47.880
folks who just never seems to ever rattle under pressure.

1471
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:53.479
Really interesting character. He was in a really interesting picture

1472
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:56.920
where he played JFK in a movie called Thirteen Days.

1473
01:28:57.479 --> 01:29:00.560
Seek it out if you've never seen it, if you

1474
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:02.560
really want to see this guy go to town though,

1475
01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:05.439
if you happen to like thrillers in particular, We've had

1476
01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:09.760
a lot of conversations lately about horror. Since last week's

1477
01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:13.640
Strange New Worlds. Go over to Netflix, okay and check

1478
01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:17.039
out a mini series called The Fall of the House

1479
01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:21.439
of Usher, kind of a modern reinterpretation of Edgar Allen Poe.

1480
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:25.840
The great horror genius Mike Flanagan created it, and it's

1481
01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:28.760
the best thing I've ever seen Bruce Greenwood do. He

1482
01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:32.720
is amazing. He plays a family patriarch on that series,

1483
01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:33.920
so you get to see a lot of them. But

1484
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:37.079
that show is out of control. I mean, there's just

1485
01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:42.359
nuts and it's really amazing. Highly highly recommended, but not

1486
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:44.600
for the week in faint of Art. It's horror with

1487
01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:48.319
capital age, so be advised. But if you're a fan

1488
01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:52.239
of Bruce Greenwood, check that out. Lastly, for me, Happy

1489
01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:57.920
Birthday goes out to Leslie Dalton, who played Drea way

1490
01:29:57.960 --> 01:30:03.000
back in the original series second season episode by any

1491
01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:06.600
Other Name. We were just talking about that earlier. I

1492
01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:09.000
think that's one of the greatest episodes of All Star Trek.

1493
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:12.960
It's really hardcore science fiction, very human, very interesting, eminently

1494
01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:17.239
watchable all the time. Warren Stevens is like the main

1495
01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:20.000
alien antagonist in there. It's just a cool piece of writing,

1496
01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:26.239
and she was one of the invading aliens from Andromeda

1497
01:30:26.319 --> 01:30:30.000
on that show, the Kelvins. But really really cool, So

1498
01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:32.359
great to be able to wish happy birthday to all

1499
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:36.000
these cool folks. Crazy as the world may be, we

1500
01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:39.000
always have our science fiction and fantasy to fall back

1501
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:42.279
on to keep us entertained and inspire us for better

1502
01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:46.359
days to come. And I know I'm hearing a weird

1503
01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:47.560
queen song.

1504
01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:48.239
In the background here.

1505
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.159
I think it must be something to do with Uncle Jim.

1506
01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:52.960
I'm not sure what it is. Uncle Jim. Am I

1507
01:30:52.960 --> 01:30:55.760
imagining things? Am I having another hallucination?

1508
01:30:56.600 --> 01:30:59.640
No, you definitely are not. I'm wearing the T shirt

1509
01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:03.800
right here, and I have the distinct I was going

1510
01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:05.960
to play the sound clipt I had it for David,

1511
01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:12.279
if you guys remember, but when Riverside updated, I lost

1512
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:14.479
a lot of the sound bites, so I'm gonna have

1513
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:18.119
to do it for you. Flash Ah, there you go.

1514
01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:21.439
So we want to say happy birthday to the One,

1515
01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:26.279
the Only, the Awesome, the Ultimate in eighties Cheese himself,

1516
01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:30.319
Sam J. Jones Flash Gordon And there he is on

1517
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:33.039
the screen, and there's me and my wife meeting him

1518
01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:37.920
at a convention. He was an awesome, awesome dude, great

1519
01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:40.600
guy to meet and Flash Gordon. Have you had a

1520
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:42.239
chance to watch you at David.

1521
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:44.119
I actually did.

1522
01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:45.119
Yeah it was.

1523
01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:52.000
Yeah, yes it is. It's eighties cheese to the max.

1524
01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:56.600
But god, I love it watch it all of the time.

1525
01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:01.359
So Happy birthday to Sam j. Jones. He was also

1526
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:05.319
in Stargay, and he's had guest spots in a lot

1527
01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:08.680
of movies. He was in Ted actually as well. There's

1528
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:11.560
a funny scene where he's flying home on his Flash

1529
01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:15.840
Gordon speeder bike. Funny movie. If you haven't seen Ted either,

1530
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:19.000
Happy birthday. I wish I had a urinal story to

1531
01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:22.760
tell you about him, but I don't, so I gotta

1532
01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:26.239
leave it at that. Happy birthday to Sam Jones. Speaking

1533
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:31.880
of eighties cheese, Uncle Jim's movie pick of the week

1534
01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:35.119
David roll the Table.

1535
01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:46.520
There is a place where legends.

1536
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:50.920
Are boring, where the light confronts the dark.

1537
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:54.560
A world of incredible.

1538
01:32:54.039 --> 01:33:02.960
Mystery, magic, an adventure, a world where colossal powers will

1539
01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:06.319
collide in a battle to control the universe.

1540
01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:25.520
The place is Earth, the.

1541
01:33:25.520 --> 01:33:26.920
Time is now.

1542
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:32.000
Masters of the Universe, don't wondering?

1543
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:32.680
Is hemen?

1544
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:35.600
Frank Langella is Skeletor.

1545
01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:37.239
And Mike Foster is evil in.

1546
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:43.279
Masters of the Universe Coming to Earth this summer.

1547
01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:49.720
I really like how understated that guy during the narration was.

1548
01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:52.920
He was just super I mean, what's what's hilarious about

1549
01:33:52.920 --> 01:33:56.199
it for Masters of the Universe like aficionados, is that

1550
01:33:56.279 --> 01:34:00.760
he says the place is Earth, the time is now. Actually,

1551
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:05.600
technically speaking, the place is Attorneia and the time is

1552
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:07.560
a while agos.

1553
01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:11.840
Well, the movie doesn't take place in Attorney. The movie

1554
01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:16.920
take nor Well. If you guys want a double feature

1555
01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:20.680
of eighties cheese, Lashes of the Universe and Flash Gordon

1556
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:25.760
some popcorn, have some fun eighties cheese at its Max

1557
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:32.600
and of course who does the music and Flash Gordon David,

1558
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:35.560
the Kings, the King.

1559
01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:40.319
That's but I mean, like the one thing you get

1560
01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:42.680
in this Masters of the Universe is you get Dolph Lunger.

1561
01:34:42.720 --> 01:34:45.439
And I mean, look at this person. He is the

1562
01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:49.680
only person on the planet who is shaped exactly like

1563
01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:54.039
a caricature of a V groove dude. Right, his shoulders

1564
01:34:54.039 --> 01:34:56.800
are like fourteen feet wide and his waist is like

1565
01:34:56.880 --> 01:35:01.039
one foot wide, and his legs are ma as. I mean,

1566
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:03.840
he just is like he's the perfect he is an

1567
01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:07.359
action figure. Dolph Lungern is an action figure, and that's

1568
01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:08.640
the messing about this movie.

1569
01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.760
And fun Star Trek references there too. A very young

1570
01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:17.520
Robert duncan McNeil was in this movie as well, very

1571
01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:20.039
very word for his but just to throw that in there.

1572
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:25.000
Masters of the Universe the motion picture was released on

1573
01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:29.720
August eighth, nineteen eighty seven. A sword and sorcery film

1574
01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:34.039
based on the Masters of the Universe franchise toys by

1575
01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:40.520
Mattelle obviously, stars Dolph Lungren, Frank Langela, Courtney Cox, James Tolkien,

1576
01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:46.479
Meg Foster, and Robert duncan McNeil. A great movie. I

1577
01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:49.640
love it, love it, love it, eighty cheese all the way.

1578
01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:53.800
And I don't know if anybody had the misfortune of

1579
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:58.199
seeing the new Masters of the Universe, skip it go

1580
01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:01.520
right to this one. Okay. That's all I'm gonna tell you,

1581
01:36:02.239 --> 01:36:05.960
although Dolf Wandern does have a really fun cameo in

1582
01:36:06.039 --> 01:36:09.840
the new one good journey. Other than that, skip it

1583
01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:10.600
go right to this.

1584
01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:16.119
One, all right, so that neither of them, well.

1585
01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:18.760
We'll give you a pass, all right. That wraps up

1586
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:22.840
our birthdays and Uncle Jim's cheesy eighties movie pick of

1587
01:36:23.039 --> 01:36:27.600
though We okay, So now it's time for our Stummar

1588
01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:29.720
Trek news.

1589
01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:53.119
Day.

1590
01:36:53.319 --> 01:36:55.720
Eric, you get to start us off with one of

1591
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:57.119
our favorite segments.

1592
01:36:57.560 --> 01:36:59.640
Well, we always like to get this party started with,

1593
01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:03.960
Shotton says, what and that's right. William Shatner teases the

1594
01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:08.560
Coachella twenty twenty seven festival heavy metal performance. That's right.

1595
01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:13.319
The iconic actor and musician recently appeared alongside his daughter

1596
01:37:13.640 --> 01:37:17.960
Melanie Shatner Gretch to discuss their podcast, where they shared

1597
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:22.720
their experience surviving stage four cancer and how those journeys

1598
01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:26.000
changed their outlooks on life. When asked what he's looking

1599
01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:29.760
forward to most, Shatner pointed to his new heavy metal project,

1600
01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:34.880
saying he's excited about his upcoming album and band. And

1601
01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:37.880
I'm not really sure how to pronounce this the the

1602
01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:42.600
uck the Uckers, but there's a little asterix before the

1603
01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:46.600
uckers part, so I think you're meant to infer something,

1604
01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:49.640
but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say staruckers

1605
01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:54.640
or just uckers or asterix uckers. Anyway, I'm gonna say

1606
01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:58.960
uckers throughout the reading of this article. While discussing the

1607
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:02.760
group's lives schedule. He mentioned performances at riot Fest and

1608
01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:07.239
the One in the Desert aka Coachella, but the Indio,

1609
01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:11.479
California festival has not yet revealed any of its twenty

1610
01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:15.760
twenty seven lineup. Oh and it's unclear whether Shatner was

1611
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:19.680
authorized to speak about his upcoming performance. The slip should

1612
01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:21.960
come as no surprise, since Shatner has a habit of

1613
01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:25.840
going where no man has gone before. When asked what

1614
01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:30.600
he was most excited about for the future, the nonagenarian responded,

1615
01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:35.359
my heavy metal. The Uckers is a supergroup comprised of

1616
01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:40.039
guitarist Marcus nand Philip Susan, who I believe is of

1617
01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:44.960
Ozzy Osbourne and others fame Britt Lightning, who is an

1618
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.720
amazing guitar. She plays one of those flying v things

1619
01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:52.560
and she's just freaking sick to watch. With Fred Aichen

1620
01:38:52.760 --> 01:38:56.600
on drums. They will all perform at Chicago's riot Fest

1621
01:38:56.720 --> 01:39:00.399
in September, alongside Pierced the Veil, Morrissey, Tool Pitch Sees,

1622
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:04.279
Alanis Moore, said Iggy Pop, and others a lineup. The

1623
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:07.920
band will play both Shatner's original songs and the iconic

1624
01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:11.439
metal covers featured on his new album What the F

1625
01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:15.079
Is heavy Metal? He says, I've always believed that music

1626
01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:19.840
like Space is about exploration. He said in a press release.

1627
01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:22.920
I love these images that David has going here. There's

1628
01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:26.000
like a spinning cassette tape in the background with some

1629
01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:31.359
amazing Shatner doing metal stuff going on, you know, because

1630
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:33.840
that's what it does. Like if you've listened to Ashley

1631
01:39:34.479 --> 01:39:39.199
listening to so you Yeah, anyway, I'm not gonna go

1632
01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:41.680
I can go deep into this. I'm just gonna, like,

1633
01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:47.319
you know, rain myself in for now and just leave

1634
01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:47.680
it at that.

1635
01:39:47.960 --> 01:39:53.319
So there you go, Hey, thank you, Eric. I will

1636
01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:58.640
take it away now, okay. And that's how all the

1637
01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:03.239
Shatner songs are okay. Star Trek actor reacts to singing

1638
01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:07.119
Clingon in Strange New Worlds Hangover episode There she is

1639
01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:10.840
una the highlight for me of this episode, which pulled

1640
01:40:10.840 --> 01:40:14.720
it up from two to a four. Despite feeling completely

1641
01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:18.840
overwhelmed in the beginning of Romaine who portrays Strange New

1642
01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:22.439
World when Chian Riley absolutely killed it singing Klingon. While

1643
01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:26.640
on Shortly and Human Best Friend, she talked about belting

1644
01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:30.319
out singing sensation. Bonnie Tyler's totally Clips of the Heart

1645
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:36.119
and perfect Klingon Saying it honestly was the biggest challenge

1646
01:40:36.319 --> 01:40:38.720
of the season for me. I did not know it

1647
01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:41.960
was a challenge I ever wanted. In fact, at first,

1648
01:40:42.279 --> 01:40:46.039
I was completely overwhelmed. But because Klingon is an actual

1649
01:40:46.119 --> 01:40:48.960
language that probably at least twenty people in the entire

1650
01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:53.439
world can speak fluently, including college professors, I worked with

1651
01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:55.920
a dialect coach to make sure I could get all

1652
01:40:55.960 --> 01:41:00.600
of the correct pronunciation translation all of it. I was

1653
01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:03.800
pretty happy to see how it came out. UNA's first

1654
01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:07.000
revealed singing a Klingon power violin. When Scotty and Lieutenant

1655
01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:09.600
Eric or Tegas take a seat at the bar during

1656
01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:13.680
an early scene, both characters smile proudly as their commanding

1657
01:41:13.680 --> 01:41:17.119
officer leans into the spirit of shortly even sings totally

1658
01:41:17.159 --> 01:41:20.319
clips of the Heart. She's pretty good, Scotty tells or

1659
01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:24.560
tegis learning the Klingon language, let alone singing a legendary

1660
01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:28.680
song perfectly in Klingon tongue is no easy feat, and

1661
01:41:28.720 --> 01:41:31.479
the actors pulled it off away that all Star Trek

1662
01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:35.039
fans should be immensely proud of the images of what

1663
01:41:35.159 --> 01:41:37.479
happened to the crew of the USS Enterprise while they

1664
01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:41.119
were under the influence of the planet's inebriating atmosphere are

1665
01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:44.720
shown during the end credits while Una belts out totally.

1666
01:41:44.760 --> 01:41:48.199
Clips of the heart in Klingon, which allows Romayne's hard

1667
01:41:48.199 --> 01:41:51.279
work to be shown off even more than during the

1668
01:41:51.399 --> 01:41:55.880
actual scene in the movie. David, let's roll the tape

1669
01:41:55.920 --> 01:42:00.000
so our fans can hear it, and I'll be right back.

1670
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:06.239
My god, nicht.

1671
01:42:06.479 --> 01:42:18.119
It looks hatch chuck a movement for Meriking motive. Dick An,

1672
01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:22.640
it's shut wish.

1673
01:42:25.079 --> 01:42:26.359
She's very good.

1674
01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:28.399
She probably knows where Pike is.

1675
01:42:30.520 --> 01:42:32.760
There's so many cling on power ballads.

1676
01:42:33.439 --> 01:42:37.199
She signed up to some fifteen warrior songs.

1677
01:42:39.319 --> 01:42:48.439
Frank, doctor show have me look? Have you seen Captain Pike?

1678
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:51.159
Oh, I'll say one or whatever?

1679
01:42:51.239 --> 01:42:53.119
These you're making no, no, no.

1680
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:58.560
And don't work here, doctor, where's that?

1681
01:42:58.920 --> 01:42:59.439
It's green?

1682
01:43:00.399 --> 01:43:00.680
Cool?

1683
01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:00.960
Right?

1684
01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:03.079
How did you learn to dinner?

1685
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:06.520
I'm just waiting it when I move my hands, and

1686
01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:08.600
you're all worried about people's lie.

1687
01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:09.840
But now.

1688
01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:25.119
That's what I said. A cool man with stars the

1689
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:49.720
Captain jo.

1690
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:16.800
She nailed it for sure. Okay, Charles, you've got the

1691
01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:19.279
next story, this one I put in just for you,

1692
01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:22.359
and I thank you, thank you. Yep.

1693
01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:24.199
Russell T.

1694
01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:27.960
Davies nearly agreed to Doctor Who crossover was Star Trek's

1695
01:44:27.960 --> 01:44:32.359
Strange New World, Strange New World to Kiva Goldsmith, It's

1696
01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:37.159
confirmed the prolonged conversation took place with Russell T. Davis

1697
01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:41.880
about the potential Doctor Who crossover. Golden Miss said the

1698
01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:46.159
two creative teams were trying with Russell to a crossover

1699
01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:49.680
and the talks continued for a year, calling them near.

1700
01:44:49.560 --> 01:44:51.239
Missus, but nothing.

1701
01:44:51.319 --> 01:44:57.479
They had seemed really cool conversation by bringing the world together.

1702
01:44:58.039 --> 01:45:02.279
The possibility followed and Easter Reagan's Strangery World season three,

1703
01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:06.199
where the Chartist briefly appeared in the background scenes aboard

1704
01:45:06.239 --> 01:45:11.159
the US's Enterprise and capped and commanded. Pelia, led by

1705
01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:15.319
Carol King, drops a line applying she's encountered the time

1706
01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:23.000
traveling doctor. Co showrunner Henry alanos Myers defended the hint

1707
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:27.600
as a consistent with Pelia's character, saying she's had many

1708
01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.359
adventures in a long, complicated history.

1709
01:45:30.520 --> 01:45:33.600
Separate Separated by.

1710
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:36.239
The BBC has announced and we'll put the Doctor Who

1711
01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:39.640
out to a competitive tender as part of the planets

1712
01:45:39.680 --> 01:45:41.199
secure the show's next.

1713
01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:43.600
Phase in line with his charter.

1714
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:49.119
Davis, who returned in Doctor Who twenty twenty three after

1715
01:45:49.199 --> 01:45:52.600
previously served as a showrunner, has said he's excited that

1716
01:45:52.840 --> 01:45:56.800
anyone to see what comes next, teasing a social Many

1717
01:45:56.880 --> 01:45:59.840
of the elements, such as the theme to Theme to

1718
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:02.840
Dunes and Blue Box and classic Villains are all up

1719
01:46:02.840 --> 01:46:03.399
for grabs.

1720
01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:07.600
The franchise moves is forward, and I.

1721
01:46:07.680 --> 01:46:14.119
Definitely have a chat about Davids once he does his story.

1722
01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:19.359
All right, this one, if I can get to get

1723
01:46:19.359 --> 01:46:20.680
this up here really quick, all right?

1724
01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:21.039
Cool.

1725
01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:25.560
So this is Magic the Gatherings Star Trek Welcome Decks

1726
01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:29.479
Welcome to Starfleet. As part of your training for Magic

1727
01:46:29.520 --> 01:46:35.319
of Gathering for the Gathering Stuard Trucks, we're releasing five

1728
01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:39.159
welcome decks that were designed to launch a new players

1729
01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:43.239
into the world of sky Trek. Welcome decks have everything

1730
01:46:43.279 --> 01:46:47.960
you need to start learning, playing and loving magic. Each

1731
01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:52.000
Magic the Gathering sty Trek Welcomes deck contains the following

1732
01:46:52.840 --> 01:46:57.439
one mono colored deck forty cards. Theo are five different

1733
01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:03.079
forty mono color decks. Welcome decks include cord from Magic

1734
01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:09.199
to Gatherings guard track. Uh, I'm not really sure. Did

1735
01:47:09.199 --> 01:47:10.359
anyone else know what that is?

1736
01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:11.439
Yeah?

1737
01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:13.840
There are two different ways to play Magic. One is

1738
01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:16.319
the standard wave of playing Magic, and one is commander style.

1739
01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:20.720
And these are typically Commander decks that they're focusing on here,

1740
01:47:21.159 --> 01:47:24.479
using like different characters from each of the series as

1741
01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:28.479
your main commander. And we can get into what magic

1742
01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:30.800
the gathering commander is if y'all want to, but we

1743
01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:31.359
don't need.

1744
01:47:31.239 --> 01:47:34.680
To, Okay, I don't play magical gathering, so I don't

1745
01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:37.039
know abbreviation for all the different things, but I'll read

1746
01:47:37.079 --> 01:47:39.800
them out as they say here. So the next one

1747
01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:45.079
is Mathic Gatherings coudtrack, Commander TRC, one reference card, one

1748
01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:50.600
deck box. Welcome decks a simple, flavorful and a perfectly

1749
01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:55.159
logical chart to your magic journey. You'll loan the fundamentals

1750
01:47:55.159 --> 01:47:59.560
of magic, attacking, blocking, casting spells through the lens of

1751
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:04.960
star Trek. These decks will teach you whoops, last miss

1752
01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:08.199
will teach you more than just the rules of the game.

1753
01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:14.640
They also showcase color pie of magic. Each of magic

1754
01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:19.399
five colors has a philosophy that associates with it. Playing

1755
01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:22.960
with these welcome decks will teach you everything you need

1756
01:48:23.039 --> 01:48:26.600
to know about Magic, and if you know Stytrek, you'll

1757
01:48:26.640 --> 01:48:31.239
get even more out of your experience. With tons of

1758
01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:36.640
deep cut references and recognizable moments, each card captures a

1759
01:48:36.920 --> 01:48:40.760
shouver of the wide world of Star Trek Magic. The

1760
01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:44.840
Gathering Star Trek releases on November thirteenth, twenty twenty six,

1761
01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:49.000
and it's available for pre order now from your local

1762
01:48:49.119 --> 01:48:54.920
game store, TCG Player, Amazon, and elsewhere Magic is sold,

1763
01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:58.560
including the Internet.

1764
01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:04.000
I'm gonna jump in. I'm going to jump in on

1765
01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:06.479
this one a little bit and disgust it. Even though

1766
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:09.079
I wasn't as Star Trek Las Vegas, I do have

1767
01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:11.039
friends for the.

1768
01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:13.199
Host.

1769
01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:17.840
This is actually one of the decks. This is Laurel

1770
01:49:18.119 --> 01:49:24.000
on the cover. It is a red deck Magic brought.

1771
01:49:24.079 --> 01:49:30.119
Magic co sponsored the convention this year. I gather by

1772
01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:33.399
the week. There was a five day convention. By Saturday,

1773
01:49:33.439 --> 01:49:38.199
I think by Friday or Saturday, the decks were gone

1774
01:49:38.399 --> 01:49:42.800
and I was watching on one of the Facebook groups

1775
01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:49.319
and people were offering up trading merchandise and even offering

1776
01:49:49.319 --> 01:49:52.600
to buy up deck to try to getting a collection

1777
01:49:52.680 --> 01:49:53.840
of all five deck.

1778
01:49:55.239 --> 01:49:57.000
But they went quick, and.

1779
01:49:59.439 --> 01:49:59.960
There's a debt.

1780
01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:03.159
They're fairly the fans were interested in seeing what these

1781
01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:04.279
decks were going to look like.

1782
01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:10.199
Eric, Yeah, I was just gonna say, Charles, that's kind

1783
01:50:10.239 --> 01:50:14.640
of the sort of thing that they do that Wizards

1784
01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:17.000
does now, or Wizards of the Coast does right now

1785
01:50:17.720 --> 01:50:20.560
with magic, Like they put out A Doctor who Wanted

1786
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:22.960
a few years ago, And if you can get in

1787
01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:24.920
on the ground level and do the pre order, you

1788
01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:27.039
can get these things at a reasonable price. But if

1789
01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:30.680
you don't immediately you're going to be paying double triple

1790
01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:33.159
what's out there, because they don't make enough of them

1791
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:35.279
to make them available to everybody, because they want to

1792
01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:39.000
keep the sort of collectibility up, so they limit the

1793
01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:42.920
supply that they offer of these certain things. So I

1794
01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:46.039
it's really cool that they have magic decks that are

1795
01:50:46.199 --> 01:50:49.720
Star Trek. I know I couldn't afford to get the

1796
01:50:49.760 --> 01:50:51.920
Doctor who Wants when they came out. It's basically, if

1797
01:50:51.960 --> 01:50:54.479
you want the best one, like the Dentist the David

1798
01:50:54.520 --> 01:50:57.920
Tennant deck, you're looking back then when it came out

1799
01:50:57.960 --> 01:51:00.399
at paying seventy to seventy five dollars for a deck

1800
01:51:00.439 --> 01:51:03.720
of cards. Same way with this right here, You've got

1801
01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:06.279
your card deck which is running for like seventy seventy

1802
01:51:06.279 --> 01:51:09.800
five bucks. All the other ones are worth less. So

1803
01:51:10.119 --> 01:51:12.079
the best way to buy these decks is to buy

1804
01:51:12.119 --> 01:51:14.680
them in packs of four and five where you actually

1805
01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:17.479
get a deal and then you get all the cards anyway,

1806
01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:19.600
So it's kind of a cool idea. You just got

1807
01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:21.880
to be willing to pay and buy into it. And

1808
01:51:21.920 --> 01:51:24.840
if you don't play Commander, then you're not even going

1809
01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:27.800
to use the cards. But Commander is a great game.

1810
01:51:28.039 --> 01:51:29.600
You just got to like have friends who want to

1811
01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:30.039
play it.

1812
01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:35.199
Right, But I will probably look into maybe picking up

1813
01:51:35.239 --> 01:51:38.359
some of the Commander decks and pick up some of

1814
01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:41.479
the deck box at the Booster sets to see if

1815
01:51:41.479 --> 01:51:44.680
I can get a small set going more for collecting

1816
01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:45.479
instead of playing.

1817
01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:48.560
I mean, it's Star trek Man, It's cool.

1818
01:51:49.039 --> 01:51:49.279
Yeah.

1819
01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:53.720
And the Red deck, the Red deck is the Klingon deck.

1820
01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:57.439
I mean, red is the red and Magic the Gathering

1821
01:51:57.520 --> 01:51:59.479
is kind of the aggressive color. It's the color that

1822
01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:01.760
allows you to do like direct damage to people, and

1823
01:52:01.800 --> 01:52:05.000
you've got really aggressive characters and stuff. So that's totally consistent.

1824
01:52:05.079 --> 01:52:09.119
Jim. Maybe the cars that they've spoiled, like right there

1825
01:52:09.119 --> 01:52:12.840
on the screen, we have Dreadnock from Prodigy they've included

1826
01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:18.479
all of Star Trek. Nice so you'll see vgre there's

1827
01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:20.920
even a car for George and Gracie the Whale from

1828
01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:24.199
Starture four. I didn't see any cars from Structure five yet,

1829
01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:26.640
but I'm sure that's such a great movie. I'm sure

1830
01:52:26.640 --> 01:52:31.399
it's represented. So yeah, I'm interested. I'm not a magic player,

1831
01:52:32.159 --> 01:52:34.439
but I would play this one because it's Star Trek

1832
01:52:34.640 --> 01:52:37.840
if I can afford it. That So now this next

1833
01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:42.399
story I put in specifically for Vuh. She got kicked off,

1834
01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:44.880
so Eric, you want to finish off the show.

1835
01:52:45.800 --> 01:52:49.079
Actually, I think the V's audio is here, but we

1836
01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:50.279
just can't see her picture.

1837
01:52:51.119 --> 01:52:52.399
We can hear.

1838
01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:58.880
I can figure, yeah, she's here, so go ahead here.

1839
01:52:59.000 --> 01:52:59.640
I don't fear.

1840
01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:01.760
Oh, I'm yeah.

1841
01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:04.840
I don't know what happened, but I'm here, So all right,

1842
01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:09.760
let's read it while I still am Yeah. Mike McMahon's

1843
01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:12.159
teases Star Trek Lower Decks movie.

1844
01:53:12.840 --> 01:53:14.000
It's been almost two.

1845
01:53:13.960 --> 01:53:17.840
Years since the award winning animated comedy Star Trek Lower

1846
01:53:17.920 --> 01:53:21.840
Decks wrapped up on Paramount Bus, but the appetite for

1847
01:53:21.960 --> 01:53:25.720
more stories from the crew of the USS Soritos has

1848
01:53:25.760 --> 01:53:30.159
not acted one person who clearly wants to see more

1849
01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:34.800
is serious creator and showrunner Mike McMahon, who made it

1850
01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:39.640
clear in his latest social media post. McMahon joined series

1851
01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:44.600
star Tawny Newsom, who also quoted the idea of the

1852
01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:47.960
Lower Decks movie earlier this year, saying I think that

1853
01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:52.439
an animated movie is not that hard a sell, adding

1854
01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:56.119
that the industry is in a wild place sat for

1855
01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:59.720
a franchise that's trying to grow and for a new corporation,

1856
01:54:00.479 --> 01:54:03.760
let's trying to see how to keep uh, how to

1857
01:54:03.880 --> 01:54:08.600
keep bringing people in. It's like we're cheap, We're available.

1858
01:54:09.760 --> 01:54:14.359
Ahead of the sky Damp takeover of Paramount, Mike McMahon

1859
01:54:14.399 --> 01:54:17.159
told Trek Movie he had a plan to pitch more

1860
01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:21.640
Lower Decks, saying, when the industry and Paramount seems to.

1861
01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:22.399
Kind of be.

1862
01:54:24.279 --> 01:54:27.600
Sorry, uh in a place where Lower Decks can pop

1863
01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:30.680
back again, I'm going to make a hard push to

1864
01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:34.359
get to do whatever we get. As for what that

1865
01:54:34.560 --> 01:54:39.760
could be, he was open to hope more episodes the movie.

1866
01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:40.880
Live Action's thin off.

1867
01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:46.720
McMahon has already actually sort of started on this last

1868
01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:51.640
he penned one of the stories in IDW's upcoming sixtieth

1869
01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:56.000
Industry special comic and the title of his lower deck

1870
01:54:56.119 --> 01:54:59.520
story is the Search for Season.

1871
01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:02.920
The Comics, with almost two dozen.

1872
01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:06.880
Stories in a variety of covers, arrived in comic book

1873
01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:12.399
Chopped on September second, just ahead of Star Trek Ye.

1874
01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:16.279
All right, I hope that has to happen. I don't

1875
01:55:16.279 --> 01:55:18.359
know what paramount fuss being what it.

1876
01:55:18.279 --> 01:55:22.960
Is, we shall see. That would be awesome.

1877
01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:31.159
Like I said, you know, an animated movie doesn't require sets,

1878
01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:36.119
doesn't require studios, so they could do it relatively cheap

1879
01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:37.920
compared to a live action movie. That's quick.

1880
01:55:38.600 --> 01:55:41.119
They could reference a lot of contract including maybe it's

1881
01:55:41.159 --> 01:55:42.359
contract five, you never know.

1882
01:55:43.199 --> 01:55:45.680
Yeah, and if they're thinking about cheap, and that's the

1883
01:55:45.680 --> 01:55:48.880
way to do it, all right, guys, Well guess what

1884
01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:52.800
that wraps up? Another show? Hard to believe, isn't it.

1885
01:55:53.439 --> 01:55:56.680
So next week we have another gimmicky episode to talk about,

1886
01:55:56.720 --> 01:56:00.560
so we'll be back here seeing bad time, same bat channel.

1887
01:56:00.920 --> 01:56:02.720
So I want to take an opportunity to say thank

1888
01:56:02.720 --> 01:56:05.600
you to Paul for hanging out and Trek talking with us.

1889
01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:09.279
He had some connection problems and and got booted off,

1890
01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:13.079
so I'm sorry to see Paul go. I want to

1891
01:56:13.119 --> 01:56:19.720
say thank you to the who is here, but she's cloaked.

1892
01:56:21.239 --> 01:56:24.479
One week I'm an Andorian and the other week I'm

1893
01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:29.479
clo So yeah, yeah, she's Mulin.

1894
01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:32.399
Yeah. So thank you so much to be for hanging

1895
01:56:32.399 --> 01:56:35.239
out and Trek talking with us, and of course thank

1896
01:56:35.279 --> 01:56:37.079
you to Eric for hanging out and Trek talking with

1897
01:56:37.199 --> 01:56:37.560
us as well.

1898
01:56:37.680 --> 01:56:40.239
Thank you so much, Eric, Absolutely it was great to

1899
01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:40.640
be back.

1900
01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:44.399
And Charles, thank you to child for hanging out and

1901
01:56:44.479 --> 01:56:46.720
talking with us. And did you grab a the rol

1902
01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:48.079
deck for me while you were at it?

1903
01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:54.079
I actually was trying to get multiple decks and I'm

1904
01:56:54.119 --> 01:56:56.640
still waiting to see if anybody else grab any decks

1905
01:56:56.720 --> 01:56:59.479
for me. But I know this one person wants to

1906
01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:02.840
Cohn went Saturday and said, I can't they were gone.

1907
01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:05.640
It was a single deck loud.

1908
01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:10.760
I believe it. I believe like Eric said there, they're

1909
01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:12.760
going for close to one hundred dollars a piece right

1910
01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:15.359
now and they haven't been released yet.

1911
01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:19.000
So yeah, oh, I took. I talked to my game store.

1912
01:57:19.079 --> 01:57:21.800
I talked to my game store and they were surprised.

1913
01:57:21.800 --> 01:57:27.159
They said Magic rarely releases cards before shows cards before

1914
01:57:27.159 --> 01:57:30.239
they get released, and for these cards to get released

1915
01:57:30.279 --> 01:57:33.359
before the decks even come out is special.

1916
01:57:33.439 --> 01:57:33.960
It's uni.

1917
01:57:36.600 --> 01:57:39.479
Yeah, I want to cling on deck, so we'll see

1918
01:57:39.479 --> 01:57:43.159
if I can. One last, but not least, thank you

1919
01:57:43.239 --> 01:57:47.560
so much to our miracle worker David. Thank you so much, David.

1920
01:57:48.039 --> 01:57:49.880
Yeah, it's been great, and I just want to give

1921
01:57:49.920 --> 01:57:52.279
the time to say, hey, Eric, welcome back. I forgot

1922
01:57:52.319 --> 01:57:56.000
to say that earlier than I appreciate it.

1923
01:57:57.239 --> 01:58:01.359
And uh, Paul isn't here right now, but I have

1924
01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:06.439
finally got in touch with Brian Volkwise, of course everybody

1925
01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:09.359
knows from the sell toys, and he's going to be

1926
01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:13.520
joining us on September seventeenth to talk about all the

1927
01:58:13.560 --> 01:58:18.399
new Star Trek stuff, the bridge, the expanse. Who knows

1928
01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:21.319
what exciting things we're going to talk about, but I

1929
01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:23.520
know Paul's excited for this one and I'm glad I

1930
01:58:23.560 --> 01:58:25.920
was able to make it happen for Paul. So that

1931
01:58:25.960 --> 01:58:30.479
will be on September seventeen. So that's all the news

1932
01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:33.119
I have to share. I just want to wrap up

1933
01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:37.199
the show by saying Star Trek fans are the best fans.

1934
01:58:37.479 --> 01:58:40.520
Please everybody be good to each other and stay safe.

1935
01:58:40.720 --> 01:58:44.800
Failing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, good night.

1936
01:58:45.399 --> 01:58:52.359
Live long and Promil where two number one you're the Captain.

1937
01:58:53.560 --> 01:58:59.119
Captain ready for warp, Sir

1938
01:59:07.680 --> 01:59:07.920
Hen