Episode 694- SNW Human Best Friend: A Mixed Bag

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0:53 About the series, the series now. Series God, I love that. I just love that. Well, guys, it is Thursday, August thirteenth, twenty twenty six. Welcome to Trek Talking and Beyond. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to episode six hundred and ninety or before we go too far, I'd like to go around the room and introduce my awesome trek experts, and we're gonna go out to Portland and start off with Paul the toy Guy. How are you doing tonight, Paul, Uncle.

1:57 Jim, I'm doing quite well. How are you, sir? Doing? Feeling good? Live and kicking? Yeah, all right. As a step in the right direction, a man. Good to see you, good to be here. And we also we're gonna stick with a Portland theme and we're going to swing over the day. But he's our miracle work. And how you doing tonight, David working working, working for a living, You're taking what they're giving. I'm working for the weekends, you know, every every day of the weekend for me right now and sticking in Portland, We're going to say hello to Eric. How you doing tonight? Eric? I am doing pretty good. Jim, It's good to be back. It's been a couple of weeks and I don't think i've seen you since.

2:39 I do not hear him, do you hear him? Yeah, yes, yeah. We can hear me. Yeah. I don't think i've seen you since, you know, the big incident. So good to see you, buddy, and I'm glad you're. I have not seen you since the same incident. I'm glad, thank you. And not in Portland, but Genia, we have our very own v with us tonight. How you're doing tonight? Days, Well, I'm glad to be here as always, wanting this dreadful summer to be over and have cooler, dryer weather and all that. Some of stuff, they'd be here before you know it.

3:21 And last, but not least, we have in Las Vegas, we have charms. How you're doing tonight, Charles. I'm doing good. Everybody's kind of looking a little uh tree ish today. So the weather in my backgrounds a little better than what it looks like outside. Mom soon as you're passing through, so it's a little cooler outside, but it's human and who knows if the windsor rains are going to pass through, so. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. Yep. So anyways, you guys can find all of our shows at trorektalkin dot com has all kinds of great stuff there.

4:07 Head on over there to find out if you missed anything, and we could use your support and help producing this whole show. You can be a subscriber. It's only ninety nine cents a month. Head over to our Facebook, Cake Trek Talking and beyond. If you become a subscriber, you can watch this awesome video and you can see all of our incredible faces. If you're not a subscriber, you'll just have to listen to it on Spotify or iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts from home. All right, what else is going on? So tonight we're going to be talking about Strange New World, Season four, Episode three, My Human Best Friend. We also have our fan shout outs, and that's where we thank fans just like you all around the globe for being fans of Turec Talking and beyond.

4:59 We also have our debt review with Charles and that's what he's gonna tell you. It's an episode. You can check it out directly coally to the one we're going to discuss tonight, and actor, do you share a birthday with? Find out on our side five birthdays and find out what Uncle Jim's anniversary movie pick of the week is. I guarantee you it's a good one. And what's going on around the Star Trek universe? Will we get a lower decks movie? We have Star Trek Magic, the Gathering cars coming out, a doctor who crossover ownA singing kling on and Shatner says, what, So, we've got a pretty busy show playing for you guys tonight. Don't go anywhere.

5:41 We're gonna start out right now with fans shout outs and Eric's been away for a while, but let's see if he if he remembers how to do it, so take it away. Eric, Well, you know it's gonna be easy, Jim, because actually the first fan shout out goes to the last place I was hailing from Denmark. Doesn't say what city, but I was just in Copenhagen myself. Henrique has ahold to saying hello to us, featuring three Danish flags, not one, not two, but three Danish flags, likely to ensure that they cover each of the three Swedish crowns, because those two, you know, always it odds. Thanks for saying hi and supporting our podcast. Next, I'd like to say hello to Eric, Yes, one who spells his name the way that I like to see it spelled as well. Eric Geerhartz from Dendermonde, Belgium, featuring that Belgian flag for us. Eric, thank you so much for saying hello to us and for listening to our podcast. We really appreciate it. Sergio Miguel is getting his you know greetings in from Lisbon, Portugal, setting us Portuguese flag. Yes, and I live long and prosper. I'm seeing a theme here. Sergio, thank you so much for saying hello to us. It really matters a lot that people not only in the sort of European side, but like in the North and South and Central America in the areas also take care of us and listen to us.

7:11 Of course, Portugal, Spain, all those places, lots of support there. And Di Vicki Scraga from Slovenia in Europe. I had to double check where Slovenia was, but now I see right where it is, Davini, thank you so much for supporting us from that location. I'm passing our shout out microphone over to v before I make too much of a fool of myself. Thanks viv Oh, leave me to make a fool, right Ah. So we're going to spin the globe and I'm getting a warm hello from Karen Teams from Atlanta, Georgia. Next Bill Busha from Appleton, Wisconsin says hello to us, and then Francis Emerson, who is saying hello from the Finger Lakes near Senica and Cayuga, just hours away from the Star Trek Museum. Uncle Jim would be would that be the one in tykwonder Roga, Yes, yes, that would be the one in Okay that's on my list to go to at some point in time. And then hello from Donnie Brady, West Virginia, USA, and real quick, I want to shout out in case two of my kids are watching.

8:29 I just want to say hello to Momo and Hunt Bunt but little nicknames but anyway, So Hi guys. Hey guys, love you, thanks for listening. Yes, I'm all right, So passing this uh megaphone of some thank you over to Charles. Thank you. The Let's start off with a warm greeting to Janhant. John Hancock from like right here in Las Vegas, given a live, long and prosper look John up. Don't recognize him, Maybe he needs to come check out the USS Las Vegas welcome nessor man dooc trucker from Anaheim, California. Pinoy Chamorrow American I looked it up, means he's Filipino islander and American.

9:28 Welcome. Susie Ray up in Wyoming. And then Sane Edward Rogers is hailing from Pears, Tennessee. Welcome each of you. As I passed the megaphone over to Paul, Thank you. Charles. That's one heavy, sweaty megaphone, but I am ready to lift it up and do my best. So all kinds of fans all kinds of latitudes, all kinds of longitudes, and there is enthusiasm for science fiction everywhere. A plethora of emojis from Buenos Aires, Argentina, our pal Ariel Villa is saying hello. I'm seeing coconuts, flags, vulcans, sunglasses. I can barely even keep track of all the emojis Ariel is throwing our way. So wonderful to hear from you.

10:17 Argentina is definitely a place I aspired to visit. I understand that your incomparable steaks and wine could be found there, so always makes my list if you've got that to offer. Moving over to the continent to hiltip Brook in Sweden, our pal Jan Leuenius is there. Forgive my mispronunciation if that is the case, Yon, but wonderful dear from you Nordic countries. I believe our own friend Eric was recently in that part of the world. Eric, were you wreaking havoc in Hiltebrook at all? I was not in Hiltebrook. I was simply in the great city of Stockholm, which was one of my favorite destinations. And I love Swedish culture and food. I have to tell you. You know, while you were gone, we did have a kind of a betting pool here going on the number of Trek talking business cards that you left various urinals throughout Scandinavia. I said, thirty. Did you get close to thirty?

11:11 You know I should accounted them. I can tell you that the stack was about three quarters of an inch high, so that adapt too. They were liberally applied to many areas, not just the journals, but many other areas throughout all of Europe. You know, can only imagine the mind boggles, Well, Scandinavias if you see those trek talking cards there, you know is responsible There you go. He might have had to swim to get there. But also from Iceland, Parla, Doug Bartar, here go, jos here is saying hello, so Parala. That is wonderful to know you're out there. I once was in Iceland for a grand total of about two hours on a refueling trip as a small child. But I've never had a chance to actually explore the island. I want to get back there and do it justice. A lot of friends of vacation there send back these ludicrously incredible pictures, so I think I'm missing out. Need to go back as an adult Perla, so you know, do whatever you can to arrange things from my inevitable return and back to the continent yet again, because there's no rhyme or reason how we do this, which sort of randomly for darksies and to hogsbing in Bavaria, Germany, Florian KOLBERTI is saying hello, So Florian, how wonderful dear from you.

12:24 I hope things are good, you know, I'm I just can't help but notice from some various bits of signage in my own neighborhood that we are spitting distance maybe a month away from Octoberfest, because of course that happens in September, not October, as those ale aficionados amongst me may know. So I hope that's happening for you in Bavaria. The king of all octoberfests would be Eric's been there? Having you, Eric, You've done the thing. I have not yet been to Germany. That is a place that I haven't made it to yet. I do have family roots there and that's kind of next on the list. I can see you there man hoisting a you know, flagging, So okay, they want to make that happen road show.

13:05 I will say that I've hoisted many a flagon at American october Fest status for. Sure, So say we all there, we are fantastic. Well, it's great to see that we have such an international contingent of trek and sci fi fans represented every week. So lovely to hear from everyone. And again, thanks for putting up if we misspronunciation mispronunciati five your home longitudinal course, wod job. We removed more use from words than any other country owner. Color used to have. Gained a little bit of credibility back.

13:46 I do know that in Iceland they have Icelandic elves and they take those elves very seriously. They will divert did. You say el Did you say I last icelandic l L like you. Yes, they will. They will divert like construction projects. They will divert roads, which I love. I love that so much. Yeah, wow, I gotta have to. Look into this. You definitely want to know about the l's before you go. Okay, good. I'm a big believer in mythical entities. So there you have it. You know, depending on how organized their support system is, will leave it at back, say a lot without saying it's amazing. All right, let's pass things on to shut me up and we'll have Uncle Jim take over. Thank God, audience, you're welcome.

14:56 So I will tell you Eric, you weren't here to hear this story. But when I was in the hospital recovering from my mother attack, they told me how to get up the walk and I had to drive my I ventured down the hallway and a pastoral and I was excited. I went in and used the math. I left a truck talking card in the hospital. So whoever picked up out there in New Hampshire, that was for yours, truly, Uncle Jim. I could have sworn you were gonna tell me you walked down John Deln.

15:42 That's only that's that's. I hate to be a spoiler because this is Robbie, something that you know should have waited for, like, you know, a later date on you know, the Rate of Future podcast. But that very card, from that very urinal I just bought bay soon it was the condition was listed as used. Is that. Anyhow when it shows up, I'll be sure to present on the. Yeah, you're gonna laminate it. Laminated. I gotta touch it. Oh god, that's just just yeah, we'll leave it. You know what. Gosh, I'm sorry. Hold on a second. Look here it is the male did come?

16:40 It is. It's a little it is. It is as advertised used. But wow, okay. It is new for a stick to the forehead. Yeah, oh my god. Well, anyways, back to our regularly schedule programming, kid and see. If you guys are a subscriber, you could see that business card that Paul is holding up, so it's well worth than on the nine sid oh boy. Anyways, back to our fin shout outs. I would like to say thank you to Stephen Arroyo, who's listening to us right now in New York City the Big Apple, and he flashes us to live long and prosper right back at you, Stephen. We also want to say hello and thank you to Kirk E. Ta Costa, who's listening to us in Nebraska. We also want to say hello and thank you to Tim BERSONI, who's in central New York where I don't know, but it's centrally located. Thank you, Tim.

17:43 At last, but not least, you want to say hello and thank you to Skip Morris, who's listening to us or could be watching us. He's a subscriber from Grapevine, Texas, and that, my friends, wraps up our fan shout outs. If you would like to be featured in a fan shout out, head over to our Facebook page Trek Talking and Beyond. Into the top of the page you'll see a live long and prosper asking where you're from. Tell us where you're from. Leave emojis. It gets my attention. If you see a heart next to your name, that means you will be featured in a future fan shout out and you can send us a picture like the ones that are on the screen right now, and David will get your picture up there with our fans shout out so the whole world will know it's horrible on Trek Talking and Beyond, but that you're an awesome Star Truck fan. So send us your pictures and we'll post them up. All right, guys, now it's time for our star Trek Pauls.

18:47 You know me like no Wind, what you thought about the show? Then we try to share your opinions. With all of our minions there they listen, world, why. Tell us just what you think? Get together we will all t Canar and robulin A. I love that. I just you are you did the most incredible job with that video that I could. I couldn't have asked for a better video than that. Okay, what I love is just Frog is just you know, because who doesn't love him?

19:36 Yeah, that's perfect. Okay, So Eric, you're ready to do a pall. Yeah, sure, it has been a little I think I can read it though luckily I have not lost those skills despite trying to interpret many different Scandadavian languages. That is, over the last few weeks. Would you like to see a Lower Decks movie? And this, You know, it's no surprise to me that ninety one percent people who responded our polls of course like duh, yeah, of course we want to see it, and not somehow nine percent said no. All I can figure is that only what ten people ten point want? No? That doesn't work out. Yeah, anyway, not very many people must have said no, is what I'm trying to say.

20:21 But yeah, ninety one percent. So I think a Lower Decks would be great as a movie. You know, they would if they if they did a good job of it, which I think they would, they would keep it concise, they would have a good story. They would actually take the characters and move them forward just a little bit, because that's one of the things that can kind of happen is you sort of end up with the uh, Okay, we just had a movie and everybody's in the same place at the end of it that they were. And because Star Trek has a legacy of not doing that, they should do that in a lower Decks movie and make those characters end up somewhere else at the end of the movie, if they ever made. Let's hope that the new mobiles over the paramall I have half a brain and decide to do something. But we'll see what happens. So that's our poll for this week.

21:08 You guys can vote on the poles heading over our Facebook from Talking and Beyond and I'll vote. There's all kinds of questions and things there that that I throw out there at you guys. All right, guys, now, Charles is going to jump in with some cadet training. Okay, thank you, Uncle Jim. And if people still wonder what cadet training is. These are different Easter eggs and stuff I find the episode this time. There's a lot more in just Easter eggs that occurred in this episode. Let's start off with where one place we could have visited and TNNG happens holiday back in season three is that's where we first learned about Riza and the vacation planet that Risa is. And if you looked real closely, we got a little bit of the animated series in there when we saw advertisement for the planet and saw animated versions of Spock and ericson.

22:21 I thought that was a nice little catch. And then we could always say the original series, the animated series DS nine Discovery because we saw a trible I know David got excited because he saw a triple ts and lower decks. We're both places we got to see them, Mogtu and Starfleet Academy. We got to see the Magattu costume, which I'm wondering if it was reeslifted in this episode. It was actually reused from that episode.

23:02 DNG relics Data says it's green, referencing a green Scotch with Scotty. Ts. Surely. Season one is another example of a strange Surely where they get to see different. Different characters appear. I think there were more mirages, but we saw a rabbit and somebody trying to fight Kirk Tos during the Babel in season two where somebody did attempt to sabotage. At Peace Treaty and tos and Naked Time.

23:48 Season one, one of the occasuns where Kirk Slapspot and brings them back to his senses. See Paul there, I think he just fight at the fighting at the bit rate? Is it there? And say, okay, can we talk about this episode now? Please get that review over. With Charles before thank you Charles. Before we do, I do need to add a small asterisk to our get a training reference of It's Green. That Relics episode is actually the second time that's been sent because originally it was an original series reference from the excellent episode by any other Name where Scotty's trying to get the the Kelvin's drunk to lower their make them pray to their inhibition.

24:37 So I always like to every whenever we go all the way back to the original series, it must be done. So this is actually the third It's Green reference that I know of in sounds good history. So just and I am gonna just say this segment of yours has been going on for a long time. Charles Cadet training needs a theme, Saw and I think now that Eric's back, we need to work on that. We need to have any Yeah, Eric, about that. Seventy game shows seventies. I thought he was gonna do nineties metal in the Shatner style. And you know, and we can dress you up in like with a you know, academic pointed hat kind of a thing, you know, like a mortarboard. I think that would be great.

25:20 Well, actually, coincidentally, I think I just have one of those right here. I love it when a plan comes together. So I believe we're not talking about the Griffin incident, So I will ignore what it says right there, and I will instead talk about the episode. We all here to talk about what I believe is Episode three is for human best Friends. I'm just gonna do a very brief recap because I'm not really sure how I want to approach this, Frank Frankly, Brent, though it should be interesting, a very unusual episode, to be sure. PI takes the very stressed, overworked senior crew for Surely on a pleasure planet named Cessnar.

26:00 And there is a atmosphere on this planet that is naturally intoxicating, leaving Engineer Scott and helmsman Eric Ortegas with amnesia, taking them on a wild kind of dare I say, hangover style mission to retrace their steps help sober up before high stakes peace negotiations can ensue. So what we have here basically is en route to these very crucial piece dogs Alpha Shift, which seems kind of to me like almost like a lower Decks reference, right, it could be off at this planet. It's kind of a tech free resort planet, where again the atmosphere is designed to, you know, naturally loosens everyone up when you go there.

26:41 And so things begin where Scotty and Artegis wake up shockingly with no memory of the previous day, a bunch of chaotic references and tools everywhere, and this mystery that they have to figure out what the hell happened before these diplomatic arrivals that are of course coming sooner than want to expected them to, because of course they are, so they're trying to track down. They're very let's just say relaxed. Fellow crewmates, including a very partying Uvura, was on a journey doctor Mabenga who's working behind a bar, and Una who is doing klingon karaoke and track every day.

27:22 They can't remember where they left their shuttle. Dude, I'm not sure what that might remind me of. It seems like it might remind me of something of the animal's motion picture history of a missing vehicle, but I'm not sure. Dude. Oh noow Ortegas and Scotti are bickering, and they're in this whole frenemies kind of thing, right, but they end up kind of moving into forest apologies, and Ouvor is really not helping at all. She just wants to sort of be the door guardian of this party she's throwing, and they just want to get their equipment back, and so eventually I'm just going to jump to the chase. Here. They fix a shuttle and uncover a video log of their own drunken cells explaining this mess, allowing them to bond, clear away past resentments, and get back in time to deal with these updight alien diplomats while Captain Pike has what seemed to me looked like a Mike Tyson tattoo on his face, but I could be wrong. Anyhow, that's a lot of what happened here. I'm happy to come back later and say more if you'd like to hear more of my thoughts on this, But that's just basically the recap there. Oh and it's the diplomats are referred to as the Rhodaxians. I think we're running out of inventive character names in the Federation possibly, But anyhow, that's kind of a quick recap there. I'm sure there's a lot more to discuss, and I'm anxious to hear what all of our other trexperts have to say about this episode. However, before we do that, here at Trek talking and beyond

28:52 the pinnacle of our pyramid, is the fans right? So Eric is kind enough to interpret some of the wild ramblings enthusiastic keyboard hammering this that our fans share with us. Is that right, Eric? It is absolutely true, Paul. I love to hear what the minions have to say about things, because really that is the pulse of Star Trek and the pulse of our podcast. So thank you for being our pulse, because without you we have no pulse and be dead. Yeah. Thanks, thanks people. Sorry, I'm just getting a little bit, you know. I hear that when you go to Scandinavian countries there is a darkness that descends on people, and apparently that's a good I.

29:37 Can feel it, man, I can still feel. It, all right. That's okay, the happiest on Earth. I don't know. It could have gone to Finland, but whatever, I went there. Okay, all right, mind? Did you bring some business? I put them in all five countries. I went to five countries and five cities over two weeks, and I left business cards everywhere. I'm telling you, okay, yes, So our fans would love to share their opinions because they are our minions. And Joe Sittig suspicions last name. Are you related at all? I don't know, but Joe Sittig says an eight. It was like a live action lower decks.

30:25 It's annoying how this whole cast is good at everything. Thanks Joe. Juan Jakabo Yarce Valiz said eight. It was great and funny, but the ending holds it back. Otherwise great, Ellen Silber said, I read it a six. I like some of the elements, like the klingon karaoke love songs and the discord between the pilot and the engineer. However, it had a convoluted plot and there was no cohesion between the separate elements. This might have made a few decent episodes without being mashed together like this. I wish there had been better judgment as to what should have been put together. Thanks Ellen. Debbie Cole said, I'm gonna give it a seven point five. I loved the Scotti Ortega interaction and UNA's Klingon song was great. I want to be in the audience. And the Kirk Spock was on track for future friendship development. We're gonna talk about that, Debbie.

31:19 I'm an old Trekker started September nineteen sixty six, and I've watched every episode of Every Trek except section thirty one question mark that was not track. Thanks Debbie. I wonder what you thought of episode two. I would have loved to have heard whether that was trak or not for you. Kitty Wilford said, wasn't the best, but some definitely some great character moments one point five as well, Old Tricky as well. Jose Lopez six not just very trek what a shame? Spacey, Steph maybe Steph Spacey loved it eight whatever they were on. I want some Yeah, sal Ricci six point five for me, but I try to keep it in perspective. All the TOS episodes were nines and tens either. Thanks sal for injecting some reason into this whole reading system. Pamela Lochran said four. I'm afraid there were some funny moments, and I like the ending between Eric and Scotty, but too much irritated mean e g Uhura and Pike. I think we may hear more about that from some of our tr experts as well. Pamela, thank you. And Virgil Cruz said eight. I really enjoyed it as a sixty year Treky follower, yep, from the beginning.

32:31 I love the exploration of the universe and all it's possibilities. My wife said, if this Kirk is gonna be is going to do a beefcake scene like Satner, that he needs to buff. Up a bit out. Oh well, you know, I mean nobody wants to see. Well, I shouldn't say that, Thanks Virgil. Nancy Lucia Lopez at eight point five. I always rate the episodes high because I've enjoyed all of them about horror episodes, but I did appreciate how well it was the episode was made, how well the episode had made. I think. For the latest episode, I was delighted from the moment they opened the should door and everything went psychedelic. Hearing Una singing Klingon was the icing on the proverbial cake. Having watched TOOS when it originally aired than dozens of times more, I loved the spot Kirk interaction. Personally, I have enjoyed that Strange New Worlds has been pushing the limits to create something new and fun. I miss this. I will miss this show when it is gone. Mark Harvey said a one I knew four minutes in it was gonna be a shit show. What a racist episode making the black chick a pothead, not to mention there was no plot and the show went in one thousand different directions, such a shame after last week's winner and then some random characters of x's and z's and c's. Thanks Mark and Angie rebel Booth said, I give it eight cactuses

34:06 and that gives us a rounded fan score of six point eight. That is not going to win any awards, but it is not in the pooper that as far as I can uh tell so far, so I don't know what do you guys think. I loved her. I love the cactus rating too. Yeah, yeah again, if you guys want your opinions to be heard on the show. Go to Trock Talking and Beyond on Facebook and tell it. In fact, tomorrow morning at around eleven o'clock, I'll have that question up for the episode that's on tonight. So like, over there, tell us.

34:48 Who wants to start us? You haven't have been around, you haven't. Been here in. Okay, Yeah, I can definitely get started. So yeah, so I I guess for me. You know, I was away for a couple of weeks, and then when I came back I quickly watched episodes two and three in a back to back sort of way. So I will say that right from the get go I suffered from a little bit of what I'll call like episode whiplash, where I was in one state of mind in one episode and then quickly like whipped into another one. That may have contributed to some of the reason that I kind of enjoyed this episode. I'll give you my final rating at the end here. But of course, you know, right from the get go, it's pretty obvious that it's just a everybody gets drunk and Shenanigans ensues kind of episode.

35:44 It immediately kind of brought to mine the Naked Now from Next Generation, which not many people really like. I don't really like either. I think there's a DS nine episode where everybody's kind of drunk too. But what I will say is that they had kind of already set up this interaction between Ortegas and Scotty in previous episodes, and I thought this episode was a good kind of backdrop for them to be able to resolve their issues, you know. I mean, I think we all sort of either know or like overtly talk about how you know, things like alcohol or whatever can be social lubricants. They can bring people closer together when natural kind of artificially made natural artificially made barriers that people think up to put between themselves kind of come up and get in the way of us just being human beings and kind of enjoying each other's company. And so I thought this episode was like like the whole like everybody's you know, drunken high thing. I thought was a great backdrop to tell the Ortegas and Scotty story. And I liked kind of where they ended up at the end of things.

36:58 Did they waste a lot of time like recovering tree quarters that they broke right away? Yeah? Did they waste a lot of time? Just sort of walking around the ship and goofy things are happening, yes, but in the end their character movement was kind of worth it for me, So I like that. I will say that it kind of related to that. I can tell that Strange New Worlds has lost my trust a little bit because I was worried the entire time I was watching the episode that they were going to try and shoehorn in some kind of romantic thing in between them. I'm super glad that they didn't, but but the fact that I was worried about it tells me that I don't trust the writers right now. Whereas, like in previous iterations of Star Trek, I may have said they would never do that. That would be stupid because clearly that you know, they don't need to introduce that into this story between the two and men and women, despite what Harry met Sally said, can actually be friends. So yeah, I'm glad they didn't go there, but I'm sorry that I had to worry about it the whole time. The own thing was great, it was fine. The whole chapel fight thing at the end, I didn't really get any of that, and uh, you know whatever, I don't really want to say too much more about that, but what I will say is that the biggest place that this episode disappointed for me was that, I think right from the get go, law On was always one of my favorite characters in Strange New Worlds, and I've always kind

38:29 of liked her, Like she's got a little bit of mystery, she's got this kind of staunch independence. She's kind of like surfing around trying to find things that make her happy and that kind of stuff, And they've done a pretty good job with her up to now, and then this season it's like they've completely lost their way with the law On character in terms of what they're doing right now. Well, actually, the moment when I knew it was all really going south was when she punched the dinosaur. I didn't really get a chance to like talk about that episode, but like when that occurred, I was like, oh shit, Okay, so now they're doing that with her. Then, like the last episode, there's the whole like activating her abilities.

39:16 She's worried about it, and as a result, she's like almost murdering people and stuff. Stupid place to put that character. And then in this one, I have to say, first of all, I love Christina Chong. She's awesome, and also she can't act drunk on camera at all. I didn't believe a second of it that she was drunk at all. So anyway, just really disappointed with what they've done with the law On character. They need to turn that character around, because she's an awesome character. And now the whole like augment thing is all screwed up in my head and I don't even know what's happening. Okay, let me close this out. Paul Wesley, you know, obligatory sort of here he is, you know, put him in the story. Okay, didn't believe for a second that. Well, actually, I am also disappointed in the fact that apparently the beginning of Spock and Kirk's like deep relationship is the fact that Spock was high right and he like dumped on Kirk and kind of told him everything. I mean, I guess that can be the beginning of deep relationships. It's just not the way I always imagined it maybe begin. So this is canon now, so here we are. Yeah, So anyway, I ended up in the end given this episode of five out of ten. I laughed a lot watching it the first time. I'm not gonna lie. I really enjoyed it.

40:43 I think some of what I enjoyed was based on the fact that I absolutely despised the second episode, and so I was looking for something to kind of lift my spirits and this one did it right from the beginning. If I watched it multiple times, I don't know if I would laugh every time, but I really did laugh a lot the first time. But aside from kind of advancing the whole Lake Scotti Ortegas thing, there wasn't too much else to it for me. So there you go. That's my opinion. All right. So Eric has spoken, and I think we're going to pass the microphone over to V so we can hear what we thought about this. Yeah, well a couple things. I laughed a lot through this too, I will say right off the bat, it was kind of disjointed for somebody that has ADHD, kind of hard to follow. But I think for me there were a couple things that were relatable. One, I think a lot of us have had that coworker where we just you know, where you've just like butted heads with them and sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. But for that planet, with that atmosphere, I need that to happen in real life, that would just be that would be great. One thing that I don't know popped into my head that nobody else has mentioned.

42:14 That I was in sort of in. I guess I had the I thought of fantasy island because when Scotti and Ortega are realizing what that character, nobody's mentioned Dave Foley either, he was. He was this adorable little, you know, guy on the planet, this whole salesman for his planet, you know, come here and have lots of fun and get high and imagine all sorts of things. Mine mild with a plant, you know. Ah. But when they complained, he said, well, I gave you what you asked for, And that was something that mister Rourke always did, which, of course, by the way, we're cardimental on and that whole connection.

43:03 So that that's what. Brought to my what I what I thought it was a little bit of fantasy Island in there. I just laughed at the plants because, I mean, how many of us have had co workers that week that were a little more than we felt were a little more than potted plants. Right. I'm glad that scott Ian or Tega were able to work things out because that relationship will go a whole lot smoother. And again going back to relating to work, if you've ever had that situation, Una singing klingon, Yeah, that was that was not easy to do. And since we really re sorry, can't talk. We recently lost Bonnie Tyler.

44:00 Uh. That was a nice tribute because you haven't experienced total eclipse of the heart if you unless you've heard it and cling on right, And I think that's the rest of it gets a little bit kind of scattered for me, so. Give me some laughs. There were some relatable things, but I think overall I would rate it a seven a seven. So h we got seven from V and I guess we'll just keep the trainer roll and we'll pop on over to Las Vegas and see what Charles I had to say.

44:42 Okay, one thing I did when I took my notes was kind of get what happened everybody, and I kind of went down the list. Scotty in a man manga do costume. Of course we saw last seeing the STARTHI Dekada me. Versus the War College Spock and Kirk. That was an interesting situation as Spock thought he was looking to imagine a imaginary character. UNA's party, HER's party. It's got a sixties kind of give me an idea of a sixties party. Una is singing Totally Eclips the Heart by Bonnie Tyler in All Klingon.

45:35 Interesting doctor and. Bega as a bartender, sort of a Tom Cruise throwing the bottles around, probably getting tattooed, Laan as a defense fight group. And Chapel in a bingo game. Not sure I understood why Chapel was in the middle of a bingo game. Well, now we know kay spucking mind meld with a plant and get the emotions and gets the emotions and learn things from the Plant's like Okay, I'm not sure if he was actually successfully did a mind meld or it was all in his head, but that was strange. And Pike Pike's tattoos. Pike Pike's the character that, as Eric talked about Leon Pike is the character is always in control. He's always got a good, dominant, strong kick, strong captain character, And in this episode he was not bad.

46:55 And the piece talks. He kind of was scattering around didn't really look like he was quite intire what he was doing. And took the two took. Two stunt people to go through and almost and blow up a shuttle to go and supposedly solve the problem. Of the uh peace treaty. And yes, I think I think uh Pike does need to go see m Beg and get those tattoos removed. That was not a good look for him.

47:39 And I guess I hate to do it, but I guess we have to do the reference not in front of the klingon with Kirk and Spock hugging, but I'll look at the Swan like I was kind of thinking the same thing. The was doing about a seven for this one. It was all right, but it just wasn't well going. All right, So there we have it, and uh, what do you say? We moved back over to Portland and talk to David. What do you think, David?

48:27 Oh? Well, I do have to agree with v and paul An apologized Charles and Eric. Uh. This particular one kind of made me laugh quite a bit, especially when the plant came up for some reason that that made me giggle. I don't know why. However, there was a lot of things that I thought was. Very confusing in this episode. I didn't really enjoy it as much as I thought I was going to because we've been to how many pleasure planets now throughout the whole universe of Die Track. You know, we had Risa multiple times. We had a lot of things from cos all the different series, and so for this one, I think this was the very first episode that Stranger World has done with a you know, relax and our kind of thing. I don't know, I think they kind of went a little over the top for my taste, and to me, I think this one, uh yeah, the actors did pretty good acting and whatnot. I actually the funniest part that I laughed at the most was I know that a lot of people could play the telephone game and somehow come out with bomb to avocado. I don't

49:57 know what that happened, but yeah, that, for some bad reason got me going pretty good. But let's see what else. The idea that they kind of missed an opportunity. And I'm probably gonna have to bring this up because this is supposed to be the character Scotty, right when somehow miraculously they transported them off what second from the subtle to the trip, he somehow blew off his thumb. So I'm like, okay, if anybody knows the character of the original Scotti, he actually was missing a finger, so I don't understand why they didn't just go ahead and do that to indicate that, you know, he was missing a finger.

50:47 So I was like, Wow, they really miss an opportunity there. But yeah, it's a little minor thing that I thought. I burn up. And as Child mentioned, Fox trying to mind meld with a plant could have been all on his head and maybe he actually knew where the shuttle was this whole time, But. I don't know. This particular episode somehow just got me thinking that the season of Stranger the World has gotten a lot of stranger. Sorry. I did not enjoy this one at all very much, and to me, I don't think I would rewatch it again. When I was watching it, I was hoping for a fun episode, and it was fun at first, but no, I don't think i'd ever watch it again. So to me, I gave the last episode the horror one three. I am probably just gonna up this one by one point and go with the four because it did make me laugh, but I no, it didn't do it for me.

51:56 So for well, David, I uh, unfortunately watched it three times, So third time a third time really a charm. You'll find out soon enough. All right, Paul, let's let's hang out with our Portland crew and let's see what you thought about it. Okay, Wow, Well, you know, comedy is hard, right, and the comedy is very subjective. What one person thinks is hilarious and they just love another person may not. And I just found this, uh, this episode. Yeah, I didn't enjoy myself with this at all. It's I feel like this episode is kind of symptomatic for me of kind of the direction. I feel like I'm concerned about I don't know, the stranger the world's this season. Right, It's just like it's a great start with the season premiere.

52:52 But I mean, if you go through and you read the you know, log lines for this season, everything is like a new gimmick or trope episode of the week. Right. We're a horror show, We're we're a comedy show, we're muppets, we're a soap opera. Right, It's like they you know, I feel like the atmosphere of what we saw on this planet, there's probably a lot like what the atmosphere the writer's room is on this show just everybody's whims are indulged and they can do whatever they want it. It's awesome. I love seeing you know, dude, where's my car? When I was high and you know, seventeen. I guess that's maybe who they're hiring to write. I don't know, but I just found this really. If I had to describe this, you know, and I love comedy, I feel bad, right because it's like I don't want to diss on anybody.

53:40 If you enjoyed it, God love you, power to you, right, I think it's great. We need comedy and this weird, screwed up dark age we live in more than ever, right, So I don't want to, you know, deny people who If you found this comic comedic, that's great, I'm happy for you. I did not. It's not Mike style of comedy at all. It's not my style of Star Trek or science fiction at all. I don't really get how you call this science fiction, right, I really don't get it. And it's this gimmick rotation that they're in where you know, it's like, what the hell? I just don't get it. So for me, I found it really at juvenile and really annoying for the most part, I would say, right, and you know, these little ridiculous things and the Bonnie Tyler song, it's just like, that's great. You know who Bonnie Tyler is. That's awesome. But recognizing that doesn't mean that somebody wrote a good scene.

54:30 It's not. And so I found it really just a complete waste of time. I did not enjoy it at all. I really hope that they can write the ship here. But you know, I'm sure this is a lot of fun for the actors to do. I'm sure that, boy, it's such a good time making this episode. Of course you did because you got to, you know, just do whatever the hell you wanted to, like, you know, like you went to a rave party and did m DMA for the first time. Great. I'm sure that was fun too. But that's not what I expect from my you know, a folks legacy science fiction. I expect better, and I would hope that they do better. I watched this episode, you know, and I got to be honest, right, I love Star Trek in every way, shape or form, except for section thirty one, which the last one night we're talking about that again. But I mean, I wat I watched this episode right, and why. One of my thoughts at the end was just like, you know, I kind of understand why they canceled this show. If this is the trajectory that they're on, If the rest of this season is going to be mostly this Russian roulette of genres and indulgences, I would probably cancel it too, because this is not what I expect from my science fiction.

55:42 And you know, no fault for the cast. They're doing their best, but Jesus, you can be annoying as them. You know, it's night, Paul. Can I ask you a question? Do you think that this like season four? Like I don't know exactly when they found out that they were being canceled, but do you think that this season forced suffers from what some shows suffer from in their last season, which is I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm just going to do everything that I wanted to do, Like, do you think that we're already there even though we have a season and a half sort of ish like left or. I don't know, man, I don't know the answer to that because there were a lot of episodes like this last year for me too, right, the wedding bell Blues episode, I believe it was with Trelaine Q whatever you want to call him. That was a There were a lot of episodes last season too that were just not so good.

56:32 You know, what it's done then it has taken what I loved about the musical episode, which was that it was a special little thing at that time that was a little jewel because it was a moment when they like took a risk and they did a thing and it wasn't part of that episodic thing. And it's taken that and it's completely ruined it because now they're trying to like replicate that sort of like you know, they've mass produced the musical episode, which was so at the time that it was done, and now people in the future will not understand why the musical episode was awesome. That's it. What's a moment in time? Right? Yeah, I know, and I couldn't agree more. And I think that's a part of the problem. So a lot of it too is just you know, I don't want to keep talking because I've done enough of that.

57:18 But I just I think overall what I concerns me, you know, like the rotating genre thing, man, and what you mentioned is I find that it is the cartoonification of Star Trek that upset about. Right, It's just like, and I don't that's not anything to do with the animated series. That's not what I'm talking about, right, But this very juvenile aspect of think Spock has become a parody of Spock. Right. He's jumping in and out of bed with some broad every week. He sees people as plants. He's mind melding everywhere, He's making ridiculous jokes. He's nothing like Spock anymore. I mean, I don't know where they're going with the character building, but it's just not he's a parody of himself. And Pike's kind of the same way too, right, with this prepasterous hair. I mean, it's just it's ridiculous. It's just it's cartoonishly nonsense. He's like a He's like if you did the Mad Magazine version of Pike, Right, It's that's what he would look like.

58:12 Right. It's just it's I don't know what they're thinking of, you know. I guess discipline is not something that I should expect from the show anymore. Right, It's gone to the point where it's distracting because I remember in the first episode actually that he had a little like fold that was a little weird in his hair, and I could thought to myself, gosh, his hair is nothing like right, And I was like, why am I even thinking about his hair? But compare that to how he when he showed up on Discovery right in the first those custom anything like that. It look like a regular human being, right, But now he looks like a. Dude who just smoked too much weed. Right. So I don't know what the story is, but it's just it's I'm very concerned. Like tonight's episode, Oh it's black and white, it's a noir episode, right, I'm like, it's another gimmick, right, And I'm just like, I'm really tired of it. So I hope that they can fix it.

59:00 I am an optimist by nature. I really hope there's at least maybe three more episodes this season that are good, hopefully, and maybe they'll have a really satisfying, you know, consistent arc through the last season to get you know, to make it like a six hour movie. If you will. But the indulgences of it are just driving me. So I'm afraid I have no choice but to give this episode a resounding three and please get your shit together, Okay. I mean, it's just it's embarrassing and it's juvenile, and God love you if you enjoyed, it's just not for me. So three yeah, uncle.

59:40 I just wanted to add something really quick to ahead. I'm actually really worried about this particular last season of this series because they're supposed to still go through the story plot with him losing everybody. Is that going to be all like in one episode or is that gonna be like in the last sixth episode of the last I don't know, because the way it seems like they're going is that they're using all of these different episodes as fillers, and it seems like they're just kind of like maybe they made these before they didn't know that they're going to be canceled, and so now they're just like, oh, shoot, we're canceled, and now we have to rest into that thing. And so that's what I'm really worried about. You make a good point, you know, and it's just it's not that every I mean, you know, I don't I don't want to come across as like the cranky old guy because I get tired with that rush a lot, right, but the premiere episode of this season, right, that script was so good. It was a strong enough story that it could have been a theatrical release if you made a movie where that was the story, right that they went back in time and they were responsible for like the destruction of the Earth and the dinosaurs and all that stuff. That was a good premise, a real science fiction story that was a strong enough story that could have been a feature.

1:00:50 Yeah. It's better than half the next gen features screenplays for sure. Yeah, easily better. I mean they could have this could have been like a J. J. Abram script. I mean, really good story, strong, adult thought provoking. It was really really good. And I don't know why you can have writing that's that solid one week and then the rest of it's just like, you know, written by interns. So I don't get it. Yeah, and I. Love science fiction. I loved comedy, don't get me wrong. I'm sorry. Just you know Uncle Jimsy to come in here as the voice of reason that you know, you know he's going to part the red Sea and calm the waters. If you're waiting for me to beat a voice or reason on this one, you got all the money. So I watched it immediately following our podcast last week, because I don't have to go to work right now, so I can stay up after the podcast and watch it.

1:01:41 I was really excited. I sat there and watched it, and I thought to myself, w w t F is this the first time? The first time I watched it, I was like, well, what I think, dude? Where's My Car? Was? One hundred times? I was better than this movie? Okay? So yeah, So I went to bed pondering it, and I had to watch it again the next day because I'm thinking, to myself, this is Star Trek Man. It can't be that bad. So I watched it a second time. Yeah, it was that bad, but I had to watch it the third time because I got to give it a chance talk about it on the podcast. I gotta find something positive because I don't like being negative. So here it goes. Okay, Uncle Jim's positives and I'm painting Star Trek on the side of a turn. Here we go, all right. Top of the list for me, ain't number one.

1:02:45 The only thing to save the show? You guys guessed it, un a singing klingon that was the pinnacle of this particular show. And I'm gonna do a story on our news section about that. That was the high for me. I heard the song right away and I'm like, wait a minute, is that no? Yes, no, yes it is. And so I love the fact that she sang total Eclipse of the Heart in Klingon and they filmed this before Bonnie died, so this people are saying it's a tribute, but in reality it was a lucky guest because she was alive when they filmed this. So that was awesome. I thought, what else? Yes, Okay, when Scotty, Okay, I'm going to be reach and I apologize, but I'm trying to be positive there. When Scotty and Artagis were fixing the shuttle, they were not using Sears Craftsmen tools. The tools that they were using were not something you're going to go buy at the hardware store. You didn't see wires with wire nuts and things like that, because I was paying attention when he was pulling apart the shuttle and there was nothing there that I recognized, which which is really for me. That's a big thing. You know, when I see wey you're nuts and up screwdrivers and you know, you know tools from Sears on a show like this, I immediately just say, what the hell they didn't do that? That's a plus for me. Okay, I told you I'm reaching, So this is mere each Okay, that's a plus.

1:04:18 What you're saying, Jim is it was good that the episode was largely in focus, that the camera was actually working. Yeah, it was. It was a thing. Sears exists anymore. I actually grew up on camera. It was a good thing. So maybe it was maybe it was overshading the. Way we didn't need to show this thumb picture right here, David that site I reject that. So the yeah, so that was cool. And Pike's face he had clean on tattoos on his face and it said hair today, gone tomorrow in plan. So that's what his tattoos. Actually said, gorn tomorrow tomorrow. An even better.

1:04:59 Than there go. Reaching. Yeah, I told you I'm reaching. Yeah, so that's what I got for positives. Yeah, okay, so that was it for me. I was going to give this episode like a two, but you know, Rebecca's put so much work in the in the in the singing, in the klingon that I had to bump my score from a two to a four just for the just for the klingon singing. Uh. And that's probably the lowest score I've given an episode since we've been grading episodes. But I just I can't go any higher. The episode was total I just no no I yeah, garbage. Yeah. Okay, So someone comes aboard to show. Now someone can explain this to me. They steal the settle to sabotage the peace talks, right, Okay, they put they sabotage the peace talk with fireworks that resemble the great awesome historical piece enhoy explosion of the civilization that's going to bring them together.

1:06:11 But dude, that's part of that's listen. Listen. It's clear, Like it's very clear they're leaning into these tropes of movies like The Hangover, right, And the thing about those movies is not the fact that people are just drunk all the time. It's the fact that while they're drunk, really lucky, weird shit happens to them, and that's the funny part of the story. Right, So they had to have something like the firework thing for it to even work, because that's how those tropes work. See, I must be really old, because again I never saw that movie, so or. Whatever, dude, Where's My Car? Has the same exact thing, Like, we're lucky shit happens. Because that's the funny part of the story that even when you're drunk and stupid things are happening and you have no control over your life, you still come out at the end of the movie. Okay, because that's American movie you make.

1:07:01 Why Why would Starfleet send their officers to a planet where they get so inebriated that they can just like to give away secrets? I know what they You know what they should have done with this episode, guys, was they should have shown how this episode directly leads to things like synth the Hall being developed in TNG. Yeah, that's what they should have absolutely so. And to Paul's point, I think we talked about this. I think it was last week when you weren't here, Eric, and that was the fact that Strange New World is leaning into the gimmicky stuff and they're more concerned with with with the different styles and the different tropes, the different gimmicks than they are being Star Trek, and that worries me. Once in a while. It's fine, but every single episode, come on, guys, write a Star Trek episode and if it turns out to be funny like Star Trek four, great, If it ends up to be incredibly awesome like Starstrek five, even better. But just have fun and write Star Trek and let it, let it play out itself, and stop trying to intentionally make it into something else. So I'm sorry. I wish I had more good stuff to say about it, but I don't. Sorry.

1:08:17 I tried. Well, I have to say, Jim like, just to close it out for me, I've I find it a little hard to believe that the tre experts liked last week's episode better than this week's though that that that even disturbs me just a little bit. It's only point two, it's five point two versus a five, but that's very close. Do we feel like, as a group we liked the last two episodes exactly the same amount more or less last week? Last week much better? Yeah? I thought last week it was a lot better than this one. All right, Yeah, well, I.

1:08:57 Mean this week was now even worse. Amazing this episode of VO said last week, Now. What do we got, Chyles, how do we compare the to our minions? Well, as you heard Eric say, by the way, our score from last week, Eric gave us an update. So last week's score went from I think it was about a six to a five point two and to improve it, the fans gave it a six point eight and the truck Sperts gave. It a five.

1:09:39 You're talking this week. This week's this week that last week. Last week's was an eight point three versus a five point two, So huge swing in what the public thought and what the truck sperts thought on average this week swing. There you have it. Okay, guys, so tune in next time. We're going to talk about another gimmicky episode. Okay, So now now it is time for our Cy five birthdays. David roll the tape that was not a song? All right, guys.

1:10:35 As you know, every week we start off I remembering those members of our sci fi family who, sadly enough, are no longer with us, and for that we turned to Jim. This week we start with actor Steve Inhat, the actor, writer and director who played Fleet Captain Garth in the Star Trek Original series third season episode Whom Gods Destroy. Originally born in Czechoslovakia, but immigrated to Canada with his family and eventually made his way into the film industry. Really amazing career for the very short life that he actually lived. Unfortunately we lost him when he was only thirty seven years old, and yet during that time he worked in a couple of movies. He worked as a guest star on several television shows throughout the sixties like Bonanza, Gunsmoke, and Mission Impossible, and he also directed a pair of films nineteen seventies Do Not Throw Cushions in the Ring, which I have not seen, in nineteen seventy twos The Honkers, which I also have not seen. He starred in the former film along with Sally Carter, whom he married on twenty third of May nineteen seventies. So a busy man to have unfortunately left this planet when he was only thirty seven years old. Happy birthday to Steve Inht, Happy birthday as well to Jeff Corey having a birth name of Arthur Zwerlig. He of course played and places in the original series third season episode The Cloudminders. He made

1:12:06 over two hundred film and television appearance appearances in a career that spanned sixty one years. His early career included appearances in a bunch of movies, including nineteen forty six as The Killers. And if you haven't heard of that one, perhaps you've heard of Miracle on thirty fourth Street from nineteen forty seven. Yeah, there are a couple other ones, including True Grit are the best movies ever made. Corey was among the many actors affected by the government's quest to seek out people who they thought were communists. Yeah, he was one of those guys that was blacklisted back in nineteen fifty one for refusing to name names which he wouldn't have known anyway.

1:12:46 Uh. After being blacklisted, Corey worked as an acting teacher for twelve years and was even one of Leonard Nimoy's early acting coaches. So pretty cool, Jeff Corey. Happy birthday to you, sir. We miss you and it sounds like you had a really interesting career and I love your makeup and awesome gray hair in that episode Happy Birthday as well to Charles Cooper, whose middle name, no kidding is Darwin. Yes, Charles Darwin. Cooper was the actor who portrayed Chord Chord with two rs in the Weirdest Star Trek movie Star Trek five, The Final Frontier. He also played kem Peck, a much better role, in my opinion, in the Next Generation's third and four season episode Sins of the Father and Reunion, one of the coolest Klingons out there, kem Peck was awesome because he was not a perfect king on at all. He also played Detective Matthews in The Wrong Man from nineteen fifty six and played Ed Cobb and blayin Fury in nineteen eighty nine. He enjoyed the reoccurring role of Judge Robert Bouchet on the legal drama Practice Back in the Day. We lost him in twenty thirteen, but he did live to be the ripe old age of eighty seven years old, which is pretty awesome. So happy birthday to Charles Darwin Cooper, a man of evolving talents, I'm sure.

1:14:13 And the last story here, please. Oh my god, please do yes? You know urinal no, I please. Damn it. I want a story that doesn't. Have a hurdle. So h way way back in nineteen ninety three, when I was wearing Star Trek Convention for five in the best star truck movie ever made, I decided that I was gonna have some clean on. So I reached out and had Charlie Cooper at my convention. It was the first Star Trek convention he ever attended, and he was shocked at the amount of people that came to see him dressed up as On that remembered him because he was wearing so much makeup, and he was just blown away by the Star Trek fans and the outpouring of love for him for playing a Klingon. He was totally unprepared for it. Nicest man you ever wanted me, and he was totally surprised by the outpouring from Star Trek fans.

1:15:23 So that that's my Charlie Cooper story. So Regular program. I mean, it is pretty cool that he's in that kind of classic Star Trek five pose, you know, of him and Vixus and what's the other male Klingon dude's name? What Ca? Yeah, I mean, it's come on, Paul. It's like a cool pose, you know. And we've had Vixus on the podcast, so I like to support her as well. All right, So, Charlie Cooper, thank you for all of your Star Trek contributions. And last but not least, we would like to honor Jane Wyatt this week. The Emmy Award winning American actress who played Amanda Grayson the og in the TOS second season episode Journey to Babel and again in Star Trek for the Voyage Home. Jane Wyatt, of course, came from a theater background and made her film debut in director John James Wales Excuse Me One More River from nineteen thirty four. She went back and forth between Universal and Broadway studios throughout her film career, and in the nineteen fifties she also co starred with Robert Young and Father Knows Best from nineteen fifty four. Remember that show, Yeah, the classic sitcom chronicling the life and times of the Anderson family in the Midwestern town of Springfield. Jane Wyatt, you will always be spox moom to me, although many have done a good job of following in your footsteps.

1:16:54 She lived to be the ripe old age of ninety six years old. We lost her way back in two thousand and six. Happy Birthday to Jane Wyatt, and that does it for our remembrances. Thank you to all I have gone before us, and I would like to pass this flaming birthday candle which is burning slowly and reasonably over to Vava. All right, thank you eric on My first. Happy Birthday goes to David Dukovney. He is an actor, writer, director, and musician, and he received his breakthrough with the role of Fox Molder in the ex File franchise, receiving international fame and earning a Golden Globe Award as well as nominations for two Primetime Emmy Awards and five Actor Awards.

1:17:43 He received another Golden Globe for his portrayal of Hank Moody on the series Californication. Okay, and I Racine in the sci fi comedy film Evolution. Ye. I watched ex File boy. That was some creepy stuff. I want to believe that was his whole thing. The truth is out there, yes, right it is. It is now next somebody who I actually got to meet last September. Happy Birthday to the Rock Loston. He actually got the role of Jake Cisco. He started the show when he was only fourteen and he.

1:18:32 Grew up before our eyes. But he was in DS nine and he also had a guest role on the Star Trek Starfleet Academy first season episode series Acclamation mill Well. He was a regular cast member throughout all seven seasons of DS nine. He only appeared in seventy one of his one hundred and seventy three episodes, David, if you can show that, pick sure where I got to meet him. This is he's tall because I'm like five to seven and he's he's definitely tall. Uh Men. I met Star Trek new Jersey last September. One of the cool stories that he told me, No, this did not involve but a urinal so I promise you that. But he did tell me that he because I think many of you know that he uh, I can't think of his name now, Avery Brooks, who played his father on the show. They really had a very very close relationship and Avery was like his second father and they have kept in touch since the show ended.

1:19:49 And he told me that. He speaks to Avery every single day. So I think that was really cool. How you know the show, You know how so many of these shows you hear that they are a family, and then in this case, you know he still talks to his TV dad every single day. So Happy birthday to Sarrock. Next, Happy Birthday goes out to Amanda mc broom. She played Captain Philippa Luvoy in TG second season episode. The Measure of a Man. Where they were contemplating data's sentience or not. Next, Happy Birthday goes to Chris Hemsworth, Australian actor who played George Kirk in Star Trek, best known to audiences for his portrayal of four in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And then, last, but certainly not least, Dawn Lewis, Happy birthday to you.

1:21:02 She's an American actress, singer, voice actress and songwriter who voices Captain Carol Freeman in Star Trek Lower Deck. For her work on the first season of the series, she was nominated for an NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Character Voice Over Performance and won an Outstanding Actress Animated Program Woman's Image Network Award. So Happy birthday to Dawn, all right, next to the flaming birthday Candle gets flung over to the other side of the country to Paul, Thank.

1:21:46 You, b appreciate the pyrotechnics there. That's most excellent. So let's say, first of all, hello and happy birthday to Brett Gray, actor and singer who voiced dal Rail in Star Trek Prodigy song Darling. I think of some of the current crops of Star Trek people just don't get it. They was not enough people acknowledge how good Prodigy is, really well done, show gets dismissed as a kids program, not the case, well written, beautifully designed, really entertaining his help. So, if you've not watched Prodigy yet and you're bemoaning all the loss of the stuff that's going on there on Paramount Plus, track this down, though you may have to get a physical copy of it thanks to the nefarious behind the screens dealings going on over there, because reinforces the important to physical media. But I love Prodigy, got it all. I think it's great, excellent, and I thought that Brett Gray did a wonderful job, really really really well done. So congratulations, Happy birthday, Long live your career, sir.

1:22:48 Happy birthday to the wonderful Charlie's. Charlie's They're all let me get my pronunciation down here correctly. Academy Award winning South African American model and of course, very very powerful producer who played Meredith Vickers in the twenty twelve film Prometheus from Ridley Scott Road war Imperator Furyosa in George Miller's phenomenal Mad Max fury Road. If that is an incredible movie if you've not seen it. She originated that character there, and of course, very very recently mythical nymph Calypso in Christopher Nolan's epic action Opus The Odyssey, where she is just tremendous in there. Of course, let's not forget her Academy Award winning work though or she produced and starred in the amazing picture Monster, where she played real life serial killer Eileen Warnos. Absolutely amazing production. She did incredible work in that always important technology these things, but she's just great and really did a phenomenal job, as everybody did in the Odyssey.

1:23:56 pH I just literally saw it last night and it was so good. It was one of those like movies where you're like you've been there a while, but when it's over, you're just like, oh I still want more. So good. Yeah, do you go to the Hollywood. I actually saw it at a at a digital screen, big digital screen, but which I feel kind of dirty saying, but I typically, but I promise I will go see it at the Hollywood. I saw it at Yeah. Yeah, it's huge. Yeah, it's huge, you know, I mean the Holly. So for a context, everybody in Portland the Hollywood is the theater in town where you can see this in seventy millimeter, which of course is always a special experience. The Hollywood is an amazing theater. They own their own prints of so many cool like seventy millimeter movies from back in the day, and they're the only place in town as far as I know, that you can actually see seventy millimeter on the screen. So yeah, and it's currently playing, it's been playing since it opened.

1:24:53 So yeah, it's a juggernaut. It's such a good it's really amazing, and fans, if you love fantasy and any kind of filmmaking at all, do not wait to see this on home video. You want the communal film experience in the theater with people. It's really amazing, so highly you highly recommend it. And it's just Fairlie is just one of many great performers in there, So congratulations on yet another wonderful role. V was just touting David Duchovny and well, I'm telling you we got X files coming out of our ears here lately. Because it's my great pleasure to wish a happy birthday to X Files goddess Jillian Anderson. Okay, where she just rocketed to international theme as special Agent Danas Scully in The X Files, winning a Golden Globe for her role on the show and launching the careers of literally thousands of young women who moved into careers of both law enforcement and medicine as a result of being inspired by Dana Scully. You hear this all the time. I into medical school because of Danish Elly. I mean, really, it's just phenomenal, phenomenal performer.

1:26:05 She's just done so many great roles. The Last King of Scotland, which is a really great role she had. She plays sex therapist Gene Milburn in the comedy drama Sex Education, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in The Crown. She got another Golden Globe for that. He's just a remarkable performer. I just found this out really recently. I'm not sure which networkers doing this, but somebody's doing a like a five part mini series remake of the Boys from Brazil and Jillian Anderson is in that as well. So she's just amazing. Any chance to watch her, I just think she's just a really phenomenal performer. And then even more exciting. Ryan Kugler, right of Black Panther and Sinners fame. He's quietly working on her new reboot, a reimagined version of the X Files with all kinds of interesting folks in the cast. On that really really great that he's got like Amy Madigan in there, Heimish Patel, all kinds of good folks. But yeah, it's coming, I think probably not till next year. He's got all kinds of interesting people in there, though, he's got like Steve Bussami's in it, Ben Foster, a lot of interesting folks, Tantu Cardinal and rumored we don't know yet, but rumored that Gillian Anderson is going to be doing a Canada so we can cross our fingers if you can't wait.

1:27:34 The second X Files movie really took it on the chin when it came out in theaters. Was heavily edited, and they're making a big value that Chris Carter re edited it and it's going to come out it's more gnarlier on an edited format. I'm pretty sure it's tomorrow on the Hulu channel. So if you're an X Files fan, it's a chance to go see an X Files movie the way Chris Carter really intended it to be and never has been screened before, so check that out and see some more good work from Birthday Girl Gillian Anderson. I'm pretty sure Uncle Jim will be watching that this weekend because I know he's a Smiles fan. So very great and wonderful to be able to wish her a happy birthday. Moving on, Bruce Greenwood, We Love You. A Canadian actor and musician as well, who played Christopher Pike in the JJ Abrams films before Pike was resurrected as a TV character in both the two thousand and nine Star Trek and then Star Trek Into Darkness in ninety two.

1:28:30 He was also briefly considered for the role of Benjamin Cisco in Deep Space nine back in the early days before they went in the direction that they did. But really chalented actor, super cool dude, just one of those folks who just never seems to ever rattle under pressure. Really interesting character. He was in a really interesting picture where he played JFK in a movie called Thirteen Days. Seek it out if you've never seen it, if you really want to see this guy go to town though, if you happen to like thrillers in particular, We've had a lot of conversations lately about horror. Since last week's Strange New Worlds. Go over to Netflix, okay and check out a mini series called The Fall of the House of Usher, kind of a modern reinterpretation of Edgar Allen Poe.

1:29:21 The great horror genius Mike Flanagan created it, and it's the best thing I've ever seen Bruce Greenwood do. He is amazing. He plays a family patriarch on that series, so you get to see a lot of them. But that show is out of control. I mean, there's just nuts and it's really amazing. Highly highly recommended, but not for the week in faint of Art. It's horror with capital age, so be advised. But if you're a fan of Bruce Greenwood, check that out. Lastly, for me, Happy Birthday goes out to Leslie Dalton, who played Drea way back in the original series second season episode by any Other Name. We were just talking about that earlier. I think that's one of the greatest episodes of All Star Trek.

1:30:09 It's really hardcore science fiction, very human, very interesting, eminently watchable all the time. Warren Stevens is like the main alien antagonist in there. It's just a cool piece of writing, and she was one of the invading aliens from Andromeda on that show, the Kelvins. But really really cool, So great to be able to wish happy birthday to all these cool folks. Crazy as the world may be, we always have our science fiction and fantasy to fall back on to keep us entertained and inspire us for better days to come. And I know I'm hearing a weird queen song. In the background here. I think it must be something to do with Uncle Jim.

1:30:51 I'm not sure what it is. Uncle Jim. Am I imagining things? Am I having another hallucination? No, you definitely are not. I'm wearing the T shirt right here, and I have the distinct I was going to play the sound clipt I had it for David, if you guys remember, but when Riverside updated, I lost a lot of the sound bites, so I'm gonna have to do it for you. Flash Ah, there you go. So we want to say happy birthday to the One, the Only, the Awesome, the Ultimate in eighties Cheese himself, Sam J. Jones Flash Gordon And there he is on the screen, and there's me and my wife meeting him at a convention. He was an awesome, awesome dude, great guy to meet and Flash Gordon. Have you had a chance to watch you at David.

1:31:43 I actually did. Yeah it was. Yeah, yes it is. It's eighties cheese to the max. But god, I love it watch it all of the time. So Happy birthday to Sam j. Jones. He was also in Stargay, and he's had guest spots in a lot of movies. He was in Ted actually as well. There's a funny scene where he's flying home on his Flash Gordon speeder bike. Funny movie. If you haven't seen Ted either, Happy birthday. I wish I had a urinal story to tell you about him, but I don't, so I gotta leave it at that. Happy birthday to Sam Jones. Speaking of eighties cheese, Uncle Jim's movie pick of the week David roll the Table.

1:32:43 There is a place where legends. Are boring, where the light confronts the dark. A world of incredible. Mystery, magic, an adventure, a world where colossal powers will collide in a battle to control the universe. The place is Earth, the.

1:33:25 Time is now. Masters of the Universe, don't wondering? Is hemen? Frank Langella is Skeletor. And Mike Foster is evil in. Masters of the Universe Coming to Earth this summer. I really like how understated that guy during the narration was. He was just super I mean, what's what's hilarious about it for Masters of the Universe like aficionados, is that he says the place is Earth, the time is now. Actually, technically speaking, the place is Attorneia and the time is a while agos.

1:34:08 Well, the movie doesn't take place in Attorney. The movie take nor Well. If you guys want a double feature of eighties cheese, Lashes of the Universe and Flash Gordon some popcorn, have some fun eighties cheese at its Max and of course who does the music and Flash Gordon David, the Kings, the King. That's but I mean, like the one thing you get in this Masters of the Universe is you get Dolph Lunger. And I mean, look at this person. He is the only person on the planet who is shaped exactly like a caricature of a V groove dude. Right, his shoulders are like fourteen feet wide and his waist is like one foot wide, and his legs are ma as. I mean, he just is like he's the perfect he is an action figure. Dolph Lungern is an action figure, and that's the messing about this movie.

1:35:09 And fun Star Trek references there too. A very young Robert duncan McNeil was in this movie as well, very very word for his but just to throw that in there. Masters of the Universe the motion picture was released on August eighth, nineteen eighty seven. A sword and sorcery film based on the Masters of the Universe franchise toys by Mattelle obviously, stars Dolph Lungren, Frank Langela, Courtney Cox, James Tolkien, Meg Foster, and Robert duncan McNeil. A great movie. I love it, love it, love it, eighty cheese all the way.

1:35:50 And I don't know if anybody had the misfortune of seeing the new Masters of the Universe, skip it go right to this one. Okay. That's all I'm gonna tell you, although Dolf Wandern does have a really fun cameo in the new one good journey. Other than that, skip it go right to this. One, all right, so that neither of them, well. We'll give you a pass, all right. That wraps up our birthdays and Uncle Jim's cheesy eighties movie pick of though We okay, So now it's time for our Stummar Trek news.

1:36:52 Day. Eric, you get to start us off with one of our favorite segments. Well, we always like to get this party started with, Shotton says, what and that's right. William Shatner teases the Coachella twenty twenty seven festival heavy metal performance. That's right. The iconic actor and musician recently appeared alongside his daughter Melanie Shatner Gretch to discuss their podcast, where they shared their experience surviving stage four cancer and how those journeys changed their outlooks on life. When asked what he's looking forward to most, Shatner pointed to his new heavy metal project, saying he's excited about his upcoming album and band. And I'm not really sure how to pronounce this the the uck the Uckers, but there's a little asterix before the uckers part, so I think you're meant to infer something, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say staruckers or just uckers or asterix uckers. Anyway, I'm gonna say uckers throughout the reading of this article. While discussing the group's lives schedule. He mentioned performances at riot Fest and the One in the Desert aka Coachella, but the Indio, California festival has not yet revealed any of its twenty twenty seven lineup. Oh and it's unclear whether Shatner was authorized to speak about his upcoming performance. The slip should come as no surprise, since Shatner has a habit of going where no man has gone before. When asked what

1:38:25 he was most excited about for the future, the nonagenarian responded, my heavy metal. The Uckers is a supergroup comprised of guitarist Marcus nand Philip Susan, who I believe is of Ozzy Osbourne and others fame Britt Lightning, who is an amazing guitar. She plays one of those flying v things and she's just freaking sick to watch. With Fred Aichen on drums. They will all perform at Chicago's riot Fest in September, alongside Pierced the Veil, Morrissey, Tool Pitch Sees, Alanis Moore, said Iggy Pop, and others a lineup. The band will play both Shatner's original songs and the iconic metal covers featured on his new album What the F Is heavy Metal? He says, I've always believed that music like Space is about exploration. He said in a press release.

1:39:20 I love these images that David has going here. There's like a spinning cassette tape in the background with some amazing Shatner doing metal stuff going on, you know, because that's what it does. Like if you've listened to Ashley listening to so you Yeah, anyway, I'm not gonna go I can go deep into this. I'm just gonna, like, you know, rain myself in for now and just leave it at that. So there you go, Hey, thank you, Eric. I will take it away now, okay. And that's how all the Shatner songs are okay. Star Trek actor reacts to singing Clingon in Strange New Worlds Hangover episode There she is una the highlight for me of this episode, which pulled it up from two to a four. Despite feeling completely overwhelmed in the beginning of Romaine who portrays Strange New World when Chian Riley absolutely killed it singing Klingon. While on Shortly and Human Best Friend, she talked about belting out singing sensation. Bonnie Tyler's totally Clips of the Heart and perfect Klingon Saying it honestly was the biggest challenge of the season for me. I did not know it was a challenge I ever wanted. In fact, at first, I was completely overwhelmed. But because Klingon is an actual language that probably at least twenty people in the entire world can speak fluently, including college professors, I worked with

1:40:53 a dialect coach to make sure I could get all of the correct pronunciation translation all of it. I was pretty happy to see how it came out. UNA's first revealed singing a Klingon power violin. When Scotty and Lieutenant Eric or Tegas take a seat at the bar during an early scene, both characters smile proudly as their commanding officer leans into the spirit of shortly even sings totally clips of the Heart. She's pretty good, Scotty tells or tegis learning the Klingon language, let alone singing a legendary song perfectly in Klingon tongue is no easy feat, and the actors pulled it off away that all Star Trek fans should be immensely proud of the images of what happened to the crew of the USS Enterprise while they were under the influence of the planet's inebriating atmosphere are shown during the end credits while Una belts out totally.

1:41:44 Clips of the heart in Klingon, which allows Romayne's hard work to be shown off even more than during the actual scene in the movie. David, let's roll the tape so our fans can hear it, and I'll be right back. My god, nicht. It looks hatch chuck a movement for Meriking motive. Dick An, it's shut wish.

1:42:25 She's very good. She probably knows where Pike is. There's so many cling on power ballads. She signed up to some fifteen warrior songs. Frank, doctor show have me look? Have you seen Captain Pike? Oh, I'll say one or whatever? These you're making no, no, no. And don't work here, doctor, where's that? It's green? Cool? Right? How did you learn to dinner? I'm just waiting it when I move my hands, and you're all worried about people's lie.

1:43:09 But now. That's what I said. A cool man with stars the Captain jo.

1:44:13 She nailed it for sure. Okay, Charles, you've got the next story, this one I put in just for you, and I thank you, thank you. Yep. Russell T. Davies nearly agreed to Doctor Who crossover was Star Trek's Strange New World, Strange New World to Kiva Goldsmith, It's confirmed the prolonged conversation took place with Russell T. Davis about the potential Doctor Who crossover. Golden Miss said the two creative teams were trying with Russell to a crossover and the talks continued for a year, calling them near. Missus, but nothing. They had seemed really cool conversation by bringing the world together.

1:44:58 The possibility followed and Easter Reagan's Strangery World season three, where the Chartist briefly appeared in the background scenes aboard the US's Enterprise and capped and commanded. Pelia, led by Carol King, drops a line applying she's encountered the time traveling doctor. Co showrunner Henry alanos Myers defended the hint as a consistent with Pelia's character, saying she's had many adventures in a long, complicated history. Separate Separated by. The BBC has announced and we'll put the Doctor Who out to a competitive tender as part of the planets secure the show's next.

1:45:41 Phase in line with his charter. Davis, who returned in Doctor Who twenty twenty three after previously served as a showrunner, has said he's excited that anyone to see what comes next, teasing a social Many of the elements, such as the theme to Theme to Dunes and Blue Box and classic Villains are all up for grabs. The franchise moves is forward, and I. Definitely have a chat about Davids once he does his story. All right, this one, if I can get to get this up here really quick, all right? Cool. So this is Magic the Gatherings Star Trek Welcome Decks Welcome to Starfleet. As part of your training for Magic of Gathering for the Gathering Stuard Trucks, we're releasing five welcome decks that were designed to launch a new players into the world of sky Trek. Welcome decks have everything you need to start learning, playing and loving magic. Each Magic the Gathering sty Trek Welcomes deck contains the following one mono colored deck forty cards. Theo are five different forty mono color decks. Welcome decks include cord from Magic to Gatherings guard track. Uh, I'm not really sure. Did anyone else know what that is?

1:47:11 Yeah? There are two different ways to play Magic. One is the standard wave of playing Magic, and one is commander style. And these are typically Commander decks that they're focusing on here, using like different characters from each of the series as your main commander. And we can get into what magic the gathering commander is if y'all want to, but we don't need. To, Okay, I don't play magical gathering, so I don't know abbreviation for all the different things, but I'll read them out as they say here. So the next one is Mathic Gatherings coudtrack, Commander TRC, one reference card, one deck box. Welcome decks a simple, flavorful and a perfectly logical chart to your magic journey. You'll loan the fundamentals of magic, attacking, blocking, casting spells through the lens of star Trek. These decks will teach you whoops, last miss will teach you more than just the rules of the game.

1:48:09 They also showcase color pie of magic. Each of magic five colors has a philosophy that associates with it. Playing with these welcome decks will teach you everything you need to know about Magic, and if you know Stytrek, you'll get even more out of your experience. With tons of deep cut references and recognizable moments, each card captures a shouver of the wide world of Star Trek Magic. The Gathering Star Trek releases on November thirteenth, twenty twenty six, and it's available for pre order now from your local game store, TCG Player, Amazon, and elsewhere Magic is sold, including the Internet.

1:49:00 I'm gonna jump in. I'm going to jump in on this one a little bit and disgust it. Even though I wasn't as Star Trek Las Vegas, I do have friends for the. Host. This is actually one of the decks. This is Laurel on the cover. It is a red deck Magic brought. Magic co sponsored the convention this year. I gather by the week. There was a five day convention. By Saturday, I think by Friday or Saturday, the decks were gone and I was watching on one of the Facebook groups and people were offering up trading merchandise and even offering to buy up deck to try to getting a collection of all five deck.

1:49:55 But they went quick, and. There's a debt. They're fairly the fans were interested in seeing what these decks were going to look like. Eric, Yeah, I was just gonna say, Charles, that's kind of the sort of thing that they do that Wizards does now, or Wizards of the Coast does right now with magic, Like they put out A Doctor who Wanted a few years ago, And if you can get in on the ground level and do the pre order, you can get these things at a reasonable price. But if you don't immediately you're going to be paying double triple what's out there, because they don't make enough of them to make them available to everybody, because they want to keep the sort of collectibility up, so they limit the supply that they offer of these certain things. So I it's really cool that they have magic decks that are Star Trek. I know I couldn't afford to get the Doctor who Wants when they came out. It's basically, if you want the best one, like the Dentist the David Tennant deck, you're looking back then when it came out at paying seventy to seventy five dollars for a deck of cards. Same way with this right here, You've got your card deck which is running for like seventy seventy five bucks. All the other ones are worth less. So the best way to buy these decks is to buy them in packs of four and five where you actually get a deal and then you get all the cards anyway, So it's kind of a cool idea. You just got to be willing to pay and buy into it. And if you don't play Commander, then you're not even going to use the cards. But Commander is a great game.

1:51:28 You just got to like have friends who want to play it. Right, But I will probably look into maybe picking up some of the Commander decks and pick up some of the deck box at the Booster sets to see if I can get a small set going more for collecting instead of playing. I mean, it's Star trek Man, It's cool. Yeah. And the Red deck, the Red deck is the Klingon deck. I mean, red is the red and Magic the Gathering is kind of the aggressive color. It's the color that allows you to do like direct damage to people, and you've got really aggressive characters and stuff. So that's totally consistent. Jim. Maybe the cars that they've spoiled, like right there on the screen, we have Dreadnock from Prodigy they've included all of Star Trek. Nice so you'll see vgre there's even a car for George and Gracie the Whale from Starture four. I didn't see any cars from Structure five yet, but I'm sure that's such a great movie. I'm sure it's represented. So yeah, I'm interested. I'm not a magic player, but I would play this one because it's Star Trek if I can afford it. That So now this next story I put in specifically for Vuh. She got kicked off, so Eric, you want to finish off the show.

1:52:45 Actually, I think the V's audio is here, but we just can't see her picture. We can hear. I can figure, yeah, she's here, so go ahead here. I don't fear. Oh, I'm yeah. I don't know what happened, but I'm here, So all right, let's read it while I still am Yeah. Mike McMahon's teases Star Trek Lower Decks movie. It's been almost two. Years since the award winning animated comedy Star Trek Lower Decks wrapped up on Paramount Bus, but the appetite for more stories from the crew of the USS Soritos has not acted one person who clearly wants to see more is serious creator and showrunner Mike McMahon, who made it clear in his latest social media post. McMahon joined series star Tawny Newsom, who also quoted the idea of the Lower Decks movie earlier this year, saying I think that an animated movie is not that hard a sell, adding that the industry is in a wild place sat for a franchise that's trying to grow and for a new corporation, let's trying to see how to keep uh, how to keep bringing people in. It's like we're cheap, We're available.

1:54:09 Ahead of the sky Damp takeover of Paramount, Mike McMahon told Trek Movie he had a plan to pitch more Lower Decks, saying, when the industry and Paramount seems to. Kind of be. Sorry, uh in a place where Lower Decks can pop back again, I'm going to make a hard push to get to do whatever we get. As for what that could be, he was open to hope more episodes the movie. Live Action's thin off. McMahon has already actually sort of started on this last he penned one of the stories in IDW's upcoming sixtieth Industry special comic and the title of his lower deck story is the Search for Season.

1:55:00 The Comics, with almost two dozen. Stories in a variety of covers, arrived in comic book Chopped on September second, just ahead of Star Trek Ye. All right, I hope that has to happen. I don't know what paramount fuss being what it. Is, we shall see. That would be awesome. Like I said, you know, an animated movie doesn't require sets, doesn't require studios, so they could do it relatively cheap compared to a live action movie. That's quick. They could reference a lot of contract including maybe it's contract five, you never know.

1:55:43 Yeah, and if they're thinking about cheap, and that's the way to do it, all right, guys, Well guess what that wraps up? Another show? Hard to believe, isn't it. So next week we have another gimmicky episode to talk about, so we'll be back here seeing bad time, same bat channel. So I want to take an opportunity to say thank you to Paul for hanging out and Trek talking with us. He had some connection problems and and got booted off, so I'm sorry to see Paul go. I want to say thank you to the who is here, but she's cloaked. One week I'm an Andorian and the other week I'm clo So yeah, yeah, she's Mulin.

1:56:29 Yeah. So thank you so much to be for hanging out and Trek talking with us, and of course thank you to Eric for hanging out and Trek talking with us as well. Thank you so much, Eric, Absolutely it was great to be back. And Charles, thank you to child for hanging out and talking with us. And did you grab a the rol deck for me while you were at it? I actually was trying to get multiple decks and I'm still waiting to see if anybody else grab any decks for me. But I know this one person wants to Cohn went Saturday and said, I can't they were gone. It was a single deck loud. I believe it. I believe like Eric said there, they're going for close to one hundred dollars a piece right now and they haven't been released yet.

1:57:15 So yeah, oh, I took. I talked to my game store. I talked to my game store and they were surprised. They said Magic rarely releases cards before shows cards before they get released, and for these cards to get released before the decks even come out is special. It's uni. Yeah, I want to cling on deck, so we'll see if I can. One last, but not least, thank you so much to our miracle worker David. Thank you so much, David. Yeah, it's been great, and I just want to give the time to say, hey, Eric, welcome back. I forgot to say that earlier than I appreciate it.

1:57:57 And uh, Paul isn't here right now, but I have finally got in touch with Brian Volkwise, of course everybody knows from the sell toys, and he's going to be joining us on September seventeenth to talk about all the new Star Trek stuff, the bridge, the expanse. Who knows what exciting things we're going to talk about, but I know Paul's excited for this one and I'm glad I was able to make it happen for Paul. So that will be on September seventeen. So that's all the news I have to share. I just want to wrap up the show by saying Star Trek fans are the best fans.

1:58:37 Please everybody be good to each other and stay safe. Failing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, good night. Live long and Promil where two number one you're the Captain. Captain ready for warp, Sir Hen