July 31, 2026

Episode 692- Star Trek Returns- SNW "Valles Marineris" discussion

Episode 692- Star Trek Returns- SNW "Valles Marineris" discussion
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In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and his crew celebrate the return of Star Trek with a focus on the premiere of 'Strange New Worlds' season four. They discuss Uncle Jim's health journey, the importance of community support, and engage in fan shout-outs from around the globe. The episode features a detailed recap of the premiere episode 'Vallas Marinaris,' exploring its themes, character arcs, and the implications of time travel in the Star Trek universe. The crew also shares fan reactions and ratings, highlighting the community's enthusiasm for the series. In this episode, the discussion revolves around character dynamics, particularly the introduction of new characters and their impact on the crew. The conversation also delves into references to Doctor Who, exploring cultural connections and the implications of moral dilemmas faced by Starfleet. The group reflects on the empathy towards insect species and the consequences of actions taken during the episode, leading to a broader discussion on historical implications. Finally, the hosts share their overall impressions and ratings of the episode, highlighting its strengths and areas for improvement. In this episode, the hosts discuss the ratings for the latest Star Trek episode, celebrate notable sci-fi birthdays, and share exciting news about the franchise, including William Shatner's new musical project and the return of actor James Frain. They also pay tribute to the late Antoinette Bauer, reflecting on her contributions to the sci-fi genre.
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Well, good evening, trek E's and Trekkers around the Globe.

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It is Thursday, July thirtieth, twenty twenty six. Welcome to

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episode six hundred and ninety two Ofrek Talking and Beyond.

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I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the show.

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I am so glad to be here for so many reasons,

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but the biggest reason is Star Trek is back and

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we are going to talk about Star Trek's strange new

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world tonight, so you definitely want to stay tuned. Let's see,

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it's been a while since we had a podcast, so

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I'm glad to be back. You guys can head over

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of the awesome videos that David there. I like David,

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who's the wholk any of these awesome videos. So please

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head over to our Facebook page and become a subscriber.

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We would really really appreciate it. On tonight's show, we're

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going to talk about the strange New Worlds season four

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premiere episode Dallas Maren Airis, which is interesting. We're going

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to discuss it. We also have our Fans shout Out,

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so that's where we thank fans around the globe just

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like you for supporting us. We also have our Cadet

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review with Charles. We have our fan reactions, our fans

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scores and what sci fi actors do you share our

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birthday with find out on our Star Trek Slash sci

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Fi Birthdays and what's going on around the Star Trek universe,

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so we have some new stories to cover, but before

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we get too far, I'd like to go around and

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introduce my incredible truck spirts. We'll start off with David.

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How you doing tonight, David?

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I'm doing pretty good. Whish I could get more sleep,

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but other than that, yeah, doing all right.

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Good good. We also have with us Paul the Toy Guy.

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How you doing, Paul?

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Hey, good to be here. Great to be able to

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talk about the return of a favorite series, right, very cool.

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I'm looking forward to it. Watched it four times myself already,

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but I have a lot of time on my hands

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right now, so I can do that. And we also

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have with us Charles. Charles is out in Vegas. How

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you doing tonight, Charles.

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I'm doing good. Just a couple of days in California.

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Just got back to the heat in Vegas again as

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refer second heat warning.

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Wow. And we also have with us last but definitely

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not least, from Virginia. We have v with us.

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I am fine. I feel like punching a dinosaur, I know,

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you know, but so glad that yeah, so glad that

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you are here with us, because you know, don't do

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that again, please, but just so glad to I am.

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I am as glad as just so.

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I missed you guys and miss all of you being

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silly and I did too.

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It's good to be back. Unfortunately, Eric won't be with

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us tonight, so we're going to have to make a

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couple of scheduling changes. But the work guys, we will

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work our way through it and everything will be fine.

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Before we go too fun, I think I want to

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let you guys know that recently I had a massive

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heart attack and I almost didn't make it. So I'm

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glad to be here, and I just want to let

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you guys know how important being here with all of

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you guys is. Being here with my treks firts talking

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about Star Trek for all of our fans really really

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kept me going with a bright spot for me, I

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couldn't wait to get out of the hospital, come home

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and watching the Star Trek episode, which I did so.

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I am so grateful to everybody who sent me all

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their prayers and all their wishes, all the fans that

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sent their wishes on our Facebook, on my Facebook page,

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I read each and every one of them, I quick

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like on each and every one of them, and I

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really appreciate it, so thank you, thank you so much

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to proving to me just why Star Trek is as

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awesome as it is. Star Trek fans always seem to

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come together at the hardest times and they're always there

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to support you when you need them. So thank you,

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Thank you so much to each and every one of you. Guys.

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It really meant collecting me. All right. So this is

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the part of the show where we would do our

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fan shout outs. You can be mentioned in a fan

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shout out. But heading over to our Facebook page Truck

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Talking and beyond into the top of the pages to

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live long and prosper I just click on that tell

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of where you're from. Leave some emodis it gets my attention.

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If you see a heart next your name from your

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truly Uncle Jim, then you are going to be featured

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in a fan shout out. Now, normally we would start

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our fan shout outs with Eric Boss. Eric isn't here,

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so we are going to defer to Paul to get

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us started. So Paul take it away. Thanks Uncle Jim.

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Great to have you back. Sarah Glad all is well,

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so let's get this ball rolling.

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Of course, there is no replacing Eric, of course, but

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you know, we'll do our best if we can at

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least make him flinch thousands of miles away, and he

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does not show why he is. Why do I feel

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this weird feeling someone embodying my segment. I don't know.

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I feel wrong. He's probably you know, twitching right now.

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But let's see what we can. His spider sense is

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vibrating for whatever reason. Let's say hello to a bunch

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of our fans across the globe. First of all, we're

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going to start out with our pal Rowan Dutois. I

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believe it's Dutois, or it could be Doty. You never know,

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so I thought Detoit was in Michigan. What do I know? Anyhow,

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Rowan Dutois is in Pinetown, South Africa, which is fantastic.

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Great to hear from you, Rowan. I hope we're pronouncing

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your name correctly. If not, forgive us, because forgiveness is,

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of course an important thing to maintain. Moving over to

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the main continent of Germany of Europe, will go over

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to sol Engen, Germany where Silka Duque I believe it's

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Duque Duque. I think it's Silke Duquet. Is there in

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sol Engine, Germany. Wonderful to hear from you, Silka, and

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a place that is starting to get a little hot

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this time of year, a little bit uncomfortably hot, would

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be Italia, not as bad as things are in France

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and Spain. So you guys, keep your head down. Over

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there in realm, Silvia Verzari is saying hello to us.

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So you got all different folks who watch Star Trek

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and all different types of Sma sacks. Star Trek has

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not just heard in English and heard in many different

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languages as well. And going over to more landing borders

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both to the equator, we're going to say hello to

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Ashley Simone from the country of Panama. Very important part

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of the world. They're athlete. Great to hear from you,

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and thanks for sharing your flag with us and above

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all else your enthusiasm for science fiction and Star Trek.

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I think we really needed the day and it's one

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of the few things that you can count on to

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bring people together. So let's go over to our crazy

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dinosaur Rasslin Shreksburg V. Do you have some folks you'd

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like to some haling frequencies.

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Uh, first one, somebody that's in our neighbor to the

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north in canad Quebec, Canada with a Canadian flag. Hello

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and thank you to Lori Megwati, and so thank you

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for that. Next Joseph Chadwick from Arkansas. And then somebody

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in my neck of the woods just about an hour

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away from where I am, Ray Ray Tarvis in Virginia Beach, Virginia,

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giving us the old welcome hand salute, so thank you

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for that. And last but not least, Gigi Jabbara from Chicago.

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So thank you, and we're just a big hello to

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all of you. Now I'm going to send this whatever

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not I was gonna say, flaming birthday candle, but flaming

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a megaphone of welcome to Charles. I don't know you.

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Thank you. V why they're a dinosaur?

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Why they're dinosaur bites on his megaphone. Okay, let's start

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with the warm welcome to Chris Landroach live and work

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in you send me National Park, California. Welcome Chris, my

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uncle used to work in the one of the forests.

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Back east.

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Welcome read Wall Read Marshall from Wichita Paul's Texas Welcome

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Read who gives us a Vulcan salute. Welcome Heather baby

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Baby from South Dakota, and welcome Kurt DaCosta from Nebraska.

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Welcome pass over to Paul. Watch out for the bite

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mark in the megaphone, Paul.

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I will I'm gonna wear nitril gloves as I handle it,

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just to make sure everything's okay. So thank you, Charles. Yes,

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I'm back again because I just can't stop talking apparently.

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So let's say hello to Ali Mohammad from the storied

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realm of Cairo, Egypt. I'm little amazing. If you get

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a clear day and you squint, you can see the

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Pyramids from Ali Muhammad's house. I'm pretty sure proximity there

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in Cairo is pretty amazing. So a beautiful place to

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be sure when I would love to be able to

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visit my travels at some point, moving over to a

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place I will be venturing to pretty soon if the

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cards are dealt correctly. The beautiful city of Newcastle of

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on time in the northeast of England. There was that

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English flag there. Tracy Laidlow is saying hello to us,

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so wonderful. Keep things calm and don't let it get

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too hot please in England. In the next couple months,

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keep things in a you know, bring on autumn early

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would be my preference, Tracy, if you can any influencer

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you have. And then in Finland, which is not too

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far from where I believe expert Eric is hanging his out.

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It's just maybe a short train right away in Churku,

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Finland is Mark who heard is saying hello with the

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flag clearly emblazoned there in their post. Hello Marco, I helpe.

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I'm pronouncing your name correctly, but amazing, I keep hearing

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Finland is like the high I'm pretty sure it's Finland,

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if I'm not mistaken. Is consistently gets like the highest

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happiness quotient of all countries. I would love to dive

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into finding out why that is, and if we could

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figure out a way to desperately get a transfusion of

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that here in this country, which is probably the most movable, and.

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You can find yourself.

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I won't go into why, but we need your help, Marco,

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no terms, So if you can leave us a message

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on the trektok and Facebook page, why is your country

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so happy? I'd love to know. And then we're going

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to I don't even know. This must be someplace deep

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in the delta quadrant.

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That I'm not familiar with.

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Not knowing my console right now, so I can't look

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it up. But Joe Bedford sounds a very normal name, right,

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Joe Bedford sounds very earthy, right. Joe says he hails

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for the scornshells Zeta. I don't know where that is.

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I'll have to do some googling in my free time.

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Scornshellis zeta. It sounds like something that happens if you

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eat at a restaurant that doesn't have a good food handlers.

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I went home and I developed a bad case of Yeah,

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I ate the bag lettuce, and now I have scornshells

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zata g waz. So hopefully I'll persevere in the meantime.

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You know where you'll find me. Right. Anyhow, let's pass

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this thing over to Uncle Jim. Uncle Jim, it's been

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a while. Do you still know how to do this?

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I'm going to give it my best shot here. I'm

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going to try. So we want to say hello and

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thank you to Ivory J. Carr Jones, who's listening to

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us in Washington State. Thank you, Ivory. We also want

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to send out a huge hello to Matthew who's in

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We would really appreciate it. All right, guys, let's see,

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we are going to start off with something we haven't

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done in a long time. This is It's been a

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very long time. But we're going to pass the microphone

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over to Charles and child is going to do some

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kind of debt training with us. Take it away, Charles,

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Thank you, Jim.

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Some people may be forgotten or not know what the

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debt training is. Here I talk about different episodes from

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the past sixty years of Star Trek and integrate two

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things that we saw in this past episode.

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And run off the bed as a unique one is

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the fact that I'm going.

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To talk about Doctor Who. Because Pellia references visiting a

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own box. It's like, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a

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good Doctor Who reference.

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TNG all good things.

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We got a spatial anomally affecting the past.

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And the future, and some time travel.

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Of course. One of the great Star Trek movies Star

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Trek for the Voyage Home and then Toos did several

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good ones. Tomorrow is Yesterday, Sitting in the edge of

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Forever an assignment Earth and sitting on the edge of

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it forever is a good example of not changing the future,

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not changing the past, affecting the future.

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And I went looking for a ridium.

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for ridium and with bread and circa.

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In Voyagers Tasika Say and Voyagers Critical Care and of

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course a good one. I think Paul would appreciate this one.

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We talked about volcanic planets, Toss Devil in the Dark

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that was a volcanic that was a volcanic soiled planet.

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And with the insectoid.

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Creatures that we saw, I merely the one thing that

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came to mind was Enterprises Zindi.

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When we did get to see in the sectoid style one.

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There were a lot more stuff I could have picked up,

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but I was a little bit of rushed today and.

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There would have been a whole lot of references. I

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think I'm going to pass over to Paul so we

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can talk about this episode.

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Oh thanks, Choles, I appreciate that. All right, Well, there's

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a lot of things and I think we're going to

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do a quick recap, maybe not so quick. There's a

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lot of stuff happened in this episode. Friends, we last

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said hello to our pals on Strange New Worlds, back

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in September of twenty twenty five, so it's not quite

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a year that the show has been off the air,

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and so there's been a lot of anticipation, right, we

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know we got a couple of seasons coming.

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People looking forward.

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To this and what's it going to be, like, where

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are we going to go? What do we have in store?

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And man, I just start off by saying, what a

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freaking treat to be able to have them come back

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with guns blazing, so to speak, with a phenomenally strong episode,

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I mean really really, really good and worth the way.

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And if this is in the indication of what's we

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have in store for this season, we're in for a

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really good time. The episode here is Season four, episode one,

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Donald's Okay, And that is an actual place. It is

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the largest canyon system in the Solar System, located on

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the planet Mars. Okay. It is over twenty five hundred

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miles long, twenty five hundred miles long pals with depths

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up to thirty three thousand feet, so ten times longer,

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five times deeper than our Grand Candy and you're on Earth.

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It's an actual place. Pretty amazing to see that reference

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in the episode title and within this episode. So we

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start off with a horseback riding sequence. And I really

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liked this because they didn't waste a lot of time

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explaining what they were on submission to some planet that

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involved them having to be cowboys, right. And what I

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liked about it though, was pikes enthusiasm for it, because

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we know he keeps a saddle in his quarters, right,

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and so it's a loving reference to, you know, Pike's

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love of horses from the original Managering episode in the

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original series, when these guys are tired, they've been on

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six months of NonStop missions, they get a visit from

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Admiral April, and he's got a couple of things. First

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of all, he wants to dangle a promotion to consider

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in front of Pike, saying, hey, I think they'd likely

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to be commodore Chris and Kevin. Pike's not so sure

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about that, right. Meanwhile, they get sent out to yet

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another mission to observe an interstellar squall, which is basically

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a big electrical stellar storm, which Spock makes a point

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of saying, this is extremely dangerous to get close to.

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Right.

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I won't mention one other aspect of this particular scene

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right now, and we'll move on, but I may revisit

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it later. Then briefly we get a look that Vura

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has a new mentee that she has to get along with, right,

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and she's been given this cadet from the academy, a

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Shah who is a Vulcan. They don't get along very

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well at all. This is nowhere near as delightful as

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the Vulcan characters we have on lower decks. No to

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Linen Art thou my Vulcan friend. She's very sarcastic and

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doesn't really try to get along at all, very imperious.

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So new incidental character introduced early on. They fly into

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this and they pick up a calm signal eyebrows raised

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and may day from inside the storm. How could this be?

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It's a starship distress boy, and so they feel obligated

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they have to go in and check that out. But

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the storm continues to expand and they are flying very,

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very dangerously close to the aspects of the storm. This

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bock warmed them about, and it seems like in an

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abrupt flash, the ship winks out of existence, but it

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comes back and everything seems okay, except they've got life

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support and that's about it. They've got, you know, no phasers,

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they've got no transporters, they've got very little else. You know,

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they got a warp drive. All they basically do is

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they have life support and that's it. The Charles mentioned iridium.

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They have no iridium, right, which blew out during this

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whole effect that they got caught up in, so they

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can't really ignite the warp drive without it. But they

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do have enough censors to tell that there is iridium

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on a nearby planet. So Pike cass number one to

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take a shuttle down there with Ortegis and Laon and

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see what they can do to find out about it.

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It's this very primordial planet, very prehistoric looking, right, and

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they detect some life signs, very large life signs that

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are between them and get into the iridium, right, and

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so there's some kind of a really big, partially hidden

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creature that's out there. A lawn tries to take a

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shot at it, right, but it doesn't really do much

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and seems to have no effect. Meanwhile, up on the Enterprise,

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the Enterprise is seized somehow by the electrical energies of

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some alien ship that is completely unidentified. Dudes do debts

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all of that is before the opening credits. It's a

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massive intro. Okay, a lot of stuff happened. All the

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plot elements are in play, the stakes are up there.

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Way to kick things off with a lot to get

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excited about really quickly. So it's kudos to you. That's

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how you do it. Come back from the opening credits,

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Pike hails this mysterious ship and they respond that they

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are seizing the Enterprise as salvage during a time of

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war because the Enterprise parrently isn't working. So they just say, okay, Enterprise,

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we're just taking that. There they are, and they hear

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from a Commander Cassell played by actress Saffron Burroughs. And

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these folks have never heard of the Federation or Starfleet.

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They have no idea what any of this is all about.

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They are busy at war with the Iraqanid insects spiece.

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He's called the Doldrum, okay, and so Pike is very

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anxious to not have a shippy scrap, so he invites

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Commander Cassel to come on board the Enterprise, and in

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doing so, he mentions the Enterprise's of weapons and we

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start having the first of these conversations between like Spach

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and everyone else going, hey, we need to be really

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careful here. If this is a pre warped civilization, we

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don't want to show them too much. We don't want

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to mess around prime directive blah blah blah blah blah.

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We don't want to tell them too much, right, because

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we could influence, you know, their development. So I have

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to be very careful what we share with them. But

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Pike's like, hey, all we can do is talk, so

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we have to take advantage of the one thing we

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can do. So it's gonna be precipitous. But they're going

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to invite them on board, right. Meanwhile, Spac has determined

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something that's a very important fact. They are actually in

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the Soul System, our solar system, and the problem is

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they are somehow sixty five million years in the past. Okay,

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this is crazy. And Commander Cassel comes on board, and

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while Una and her way team are down there realizing

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they're on Earth where they're encountering on Earth that is

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home to a Tyrannosaurus Rex. So everyone's got their things

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they're contending with, right, A lot of back and forth

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between these two plots. Commander Cassell's a boarding party just

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pops on board. They're facing through the hull. They don't

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need to transport, they have phasing technology, and I gotta say,

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okay before we go any further. This commandic Cassel Saffron

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Burrows probably one of the best guest star appearances we've

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had on Star Trek in freaking decades. I mean, she

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just kicks every kind of ass. She is a phenomenal performer.

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I just think that she immediately right out of the gate,

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comes across a very intelligent, formidable captor. She's just phenomenal

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in this episode all over the place, and some of

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the conversations that she's gonna have with Pike are tremendous.

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Back on the planet, Ura comes, Una comes up with

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the planet to try to stun the t Rex. But

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everyone is really starting to be concerned now. They have

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this knowledge about where they when they are, but anything

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they do might change the future by their actions, both

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down on the planet if they shoot a t Rex

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and up on the ship if they reveal too much.

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So changing history is foremost on everyone's mind here as

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it goes on. At this point, Committicussel shows the crew

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a back view of their planet. What we talked about

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at the very beginning the ballast marinaras right, this massive

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crater that was caused, she says, by when the Doldrum

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crashed a ship on Mars and fed on their world

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at the cost of over two million lives. And Pike

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is really trying to evoke the Federation ethos this whole time, saying, hey,

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you know, you don't always have to resort to violence

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and weaponry, right, even though you've been at war, it

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could be that we might have a method that you

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can communicate with an insects piece. All right, we can

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help you do that with our abilities that you might

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not have, and it could have put an end to

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your war. And it sounds great, but then they're about

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to go down that road. But all of a sudden,

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then Cassel just takes matters into her home hand, and

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she takes the ship's primary antimatter fuels cell and she

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beats out of there with it, and she says, you

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know what, I'm looking over your computer when taking things over,

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we figured out that you didn't weren't really totally straight

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with us. You're from the distant future, so we know

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now that in the future you come from Mars, where

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I'm from is going to be a vast wasteland, right,

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We've learned this from looking at your computers. So she

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feels she has no other choice but to take the

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antimattersel as a potential weapon to destroy the Doldrum and

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she leaves. Back down on the planet, Na finds a

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wreckage of ant the ship that is the source of

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the iridium they've been looking for. And this ship is

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actually in fact a crash Doldrum ship. It's got cryobds

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on it with the Doldrum insectoid species that are in there. Right,

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So Una grabs the iridium fuel pod that they need.

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Laan impulsively punches out a threatening dinosaur, not a t rex,

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but a smaller one, and you may be going, what's

464
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:26.000
that all about? It seems kind of odd, and it

465
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:31.480
seems odd to go on as well. So a reflexive moment,

466
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:33.559
but one that I'm sure will be getting a lot

467
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:38.359
more attention regarding later on. Anyhow, they've got that fuel pod,

468
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:43.720
they race back up the enterprise. Leon Leanne Louis law

469
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:48.599
On starts realizing that, you know, she punched this dinosaur

470
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.440
in the face and broke her hand, but she feels

471
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:52.640
no pain and she's starting to ask herself, is my

472
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:57.759
recessive augmented warrior DNA resurfacing somehow? Whenever somebody asked a

473
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:00.160
question like that on the television show, the answer istty

474
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.079
much always going to be ah, yeah, I think so.

475
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.559
So that could be pointing around where we're going for

476
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:09.119
future episodes. In this season, we find out Commander cassel

477
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.960
antimatter pod in tow is heading for the fifth planet

478
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.960
of the system, populated by billions of this arachnoid species. Yep,

479
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.279
it's the Doldrum home world. Commander Cassel also, if she

480
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:26.440
launches this antimatter weapon at their home world, it's going

481
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:28.640
to create a huge blast wave and she's not going

482
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.119
to be able to escape it. They'll have to sacrifice

483
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:35.480
themselves to eradicate the Doldrum. And at the last minute,

484
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.640
they're thinking, okay, Enterprise, maybe we can shoot something down

485
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.640
there to like disable the antimatter weapon or disable their

486
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:44.720
ships so they don't shoot at the planet, just do something,

487
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:46.799
and at the very last second, Pike says, wait a minute,

488
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:50.960
do not fire, despite the fact that Cassell's antimatter torpedo

489
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:55.799
will annihilate the Doldrum planet and potentially wipe out everyone's future.

490
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.000
It could destroy all of our futures, right because in

491
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.559
our future, he says, there is no fifth planet, so

492
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.799
he says, do not fire. The planet is obliterated completely,

493
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.359
as is our new friend Commander Cassell's ship, by this

494
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.160
huge blastwave. But rather than turn away from that blastwave,

495
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.880
Spock says, we need to head into it. Okay, we

496
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.400
need to head directly into it, because we can use

497
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.160
that energy to free the Enterprise and help snap ourselves

498
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.359
back from the quantum entanglement we're in, back to their

499
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.079
own time. That was very clever, very well done. That

500
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:35.400
was very smart. And as the Enterprise disappears in this

501
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.279
giant energy wave, we see a huge fragment of the

502
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:42.119
Doldrum homeworld is tumbling down towards Earth, and we later

503
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.039
discover that it is actually the asteroid that hit Earth

504
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.119
and led to the extinction of the dinosaurs, and that

505
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.119
the rest of the planet, Therey debris, became asteroid. It

506
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.000
also caused a big anomaly in the Solar System to

507
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.799
cause Mars to move further from the Sun, becoming the

508
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:02.440
bleak wasteland that we know today, and a lot of

509
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.880
mind blowing discussion ensues. Right, we only exist because of

510
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.720
what we didn't do, and realizing that some things seemed

511
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.119
to be kind of in a causality loop. Might if

512
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.160
you really think about it, your head hurts. Right, the

513
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.319
Martians had to take our weapons, and that we had

514
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.680
to let them destroy the Golden Planet because they always

515
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.079
have and we were always there. I mean, it's these

516
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.799
time travel things makes it crazy, right, And in effect,

517
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.240
with her good intentions, Commander Cassel ended up destroying her

518
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.960
own planet. This is messing up with Pike a lot,

519
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:35.480
who thinks about Constant Future quite a bit. He has

520
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:37.519
a nice conversation with doctor Mabenga at the end. It

521
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.240
really felt like the old Christopher Pike from the original series, right,

522
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.720
and he mentions that he ran Cassel's DNA through their

523
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:47.319
database and that it's present, present, and innumerable species throughout

524
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.559
the galaxy, so somehow some Martians must have escaped. But

525
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:52.920
Pike really laments the fact that he played a hunch

526
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.960
in this whole thing, right, and he didn't know at

527
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.839
the moment that he made that he made the right call. Right,

528
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.359
And Benga says, you need to figure out a way

529
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:02.319
to make peace with all of this.

530
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:02.880
Right.

531
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:09.200
That scene ends the amazing shot of Pike's reflection in

532
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.720
the mirror like surface at the table that he's sitting in.

533
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.839
This really seems to be like he's kind of confronting

534
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.240
the potential dark future of himself. Amazing shot, really, really

535
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.319
well done. He gets another visit from April. At the end.

536
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.960
He pulls out a copy of Edgar Heist Burrow's Princess

537
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.640
of Mars off his bookshelf there, right, and April reminds

538
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.200
he hey, this all has to be a secret, right,

539
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.720
and people can't know that the Enterprise was responsible for

540
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.799
humanity's origin, right, And Pike points out, Hey, you know

541
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.960
we answered our own may Day from some space boy

542
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.160
we destroyed sixty five million years ago that we deployed

543
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.759
sixty five million years ago. And I can't give this

544
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.480
kind of thing up, as Pike says, he goes, so

545
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.720
he turns down the promotion. He lastingly gives everyone a

546
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.200
night off unwined, he promotes why he doesn't accept his

547
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.079
own promotion, A promotion to Una to commander rank, which

548
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.519
is nice from her work down on the planet. Uhua

549
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:07.839
tries again to chat out her mentee doesn't go well,

550
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:13.279
and then we kind of end with the big dynamic

551
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:17.039
shot hearkening back to Una and everyone staring down at

552
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.279
life on prehistoric Earth. So that is our episode. Happy

553
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.240
to chat more about it and provide some other thoughts

554
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.640
later on, but I fuck enough. I think I'm going

555
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:31.119
to hand this back to Uncle Jim to go around

556
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.000
and see what we can gather as far as other trexperts,

557
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:35.319
thoughts and opinions.

558
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.519
But absolutely, thank you so much. Paul. You're going to

559
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.240
be doing some more talking very shortly because Eric isn't here,

560
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.319
so you're kind of filling in for Eric. So get

561
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.519
a drink, take a deep breath, because they're going to

562
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.079
be talking some more. Usually I like to split this

563
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:54.079
up on the show, but Eric's not here, so Paul's

564
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.319
got some pretty big moccasins to fill. But I'm sure

565
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.240
he'll do just fine. So if you guys head over

566
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.640
to our Facebook page every Friday, I usually around eleven

567
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:06.880
o'clock because that's when I used to have my copy

568
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:11.240
break when I was working. I'll post on our Facebook

569
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.359
page and I'll ask you guys to score this week's

570
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.240
episode on a scale of one to ten, with ten

571
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.759
being the best, and kind of explain the reason why

572
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.319
you gave the score that you did, and then I

573
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.359
collect those and then we discussed them on the podcast

574
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.039
like we're about to do, and we come up with

575
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:33.119
an overall fan rating for the episode. Then the truck

576
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.480
spirts will discuss the episode and we'll come up with

577
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.000
a fan rating and see how close we are to

578
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:42.039
you guys are fans. So head over to our Facebook

579
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.680
page and take place in that. I'm going to call

580
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:48.119
it a poll, although technically it's not a poll. It's

581
00:33:48.160 --> 00:34:07.920
more like a question. So David roll the tape please, Okay,

582
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:18.280
interesting you know me like no win what you thought

583
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:20.880
about the show when we try.

584
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:27.039
To share your opinions with all of our minions out

585
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:32.519
there because they listen worldwide, So tell us just.

586
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:33.400
What you think.

587
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:38.360
Get together we will alter Canar and robulin Al.

588
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.760
All right. So Eric may not be with us in spirit,

589
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.639
but he's with us in voice. He you know, came

590
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.840
up with that wonderful theme song. And if you guys,

591
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.199
by the way, our patrons, if you come over to

592
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:59.039
our Facebook page and subscribe, you can watch that awesome video.

593
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.280
So not technically a pall, but a question. And we're

594
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:06.239
going to turn the microphone back over to Paul, and

595
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.400
Paul was going to tell us what you guys on

596
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.000
our Facebook page had to think about this episode and

597
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.559
what you guys scored it on a scale of one

598
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.679
to ten. So Paul, you get the mic back again, buddy.

599
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:22.360
All right, holme slice, thank you actual quotes and ratings

600
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from you are a fan, so let's get started. Donald

601
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.360
Britton says I rate it at ten out of ten.

602
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.159
This is a thinking person's kind of science fiction that I.

603
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:30.639
Grew up with.

604
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.519
Stephen Cheskowitz says it was a well written original series

605
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:38.639
episode is what it felt like with a large budget

606
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.559
time travel like Trek has never done before. Henry Monk

607
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.039
says ten out of ten. Only the Start Trek franchise

608
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.920
can continuously introduce time travel episodes and make it exciting,

609
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.119
very cool. Sarah Louise says, my partner and I were

610
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:55.840
making so many references while watching it.

611
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:56.800
We liked it lots.

612
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.760
I'll say nine. I did say it's a princess of

613
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.960
man and then laughed at the end. Joe T. Bolt

614
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.840
ten for sure, as others said, in time travel science fiction,

615
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.360
the viewers could figure out as the crew did. Ed

616
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:11.559
La Comte says eight out of ten. I want to

617
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:14.119
know why we can find dinosaur bones but no records

618
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:18.960
of those bug people. Colleen Thompson says it was a

619
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.079
straight up blast and a love letter to pass science

620
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.440
fiction crowd pleasers as well. Great snappy dialogue too. Ten

621
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.280
out of ten. Scott D.

622
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:26.760
Smith.

623
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.519
That was a solid nine point five when those decimal

624
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.719
pable as Scott, I didn't like the Vulcan cadet. The

625
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.480
Martians were odd but warlike as you'd expect. Love the dinosaurs,

626
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.719
Howard Trumbull says ten out of ten. Dinosaur punching took

627
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.920
it over the top. Albert J. Lopez Sr.

628
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:44.760
A ten.

629
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.119
I caught the reference to the Tartis when Pellias said

630
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.519
I haven't traveled like that since traveling in a phone booth.

631
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.679
John de Claris ten. All around, it was a good

632
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.159
primary story, good hints at story arcs for the characters

633
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.840
were primarily strange new worlds, but leaving the original series

634
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:04.000
acts unscathed. I love the phone box reference. Could doctor Who?

635
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:08.719
Or it could be Rufus from Bill and Ted Fred

636
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.559
Allen ten out of ten. Are you seeing a trend

637
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.079
here yet? Ten out of ten. Many people saying the

638
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.880
same thing, thinking man sci fi proper stories with logic

639
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:21.239
and perception. No, Fred, you had me no woke agendas

640
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:28.440
is what Fred says with a preposterously placed apostrophe joint there, Fred,

641
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.480
I don't know what the day may be a little,

642
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.920
less focus on, more focus on grammar. Brother, me try

643
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.400
that out, Jason Guitar historian Velli Kiss says nine point five.

644
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:40.079
Some of the character arts are still a little head

645
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.960
scratching to me, and Spock still hasn't been done right

646
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.639
since nimoy Oh Dear. I like Evan Peck as an actor,

647
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:48.559
but the writing of Spock is still not quite right.

648
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:51.400
But the episode itself is a great idea and hard

649
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.280
sci fi at its best. Spock saying the enterprise was

650
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.719
entangled and meant to be there at that time, explains

651
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.360
why their presidence led to the events that it did.

652
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:03.360
Alrighty Michael H. Hamilton, I give it high marks, probably

653
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:05.639
nine out of ten. It was pretty wonderful with the

654
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.400
dinosaurs and all, and the writing was darned good too,

655
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.480
and Brian Winter, full of hyperbole, rates it a twelve

656
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.039
out of ten. Now we have to obey the laws

657
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:19.559
of physics, Brian, and we have to put that down

658
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.360
at ten, otherwise you know our podcast will explode. But

659
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.159
he says it was excellent with a wonderful paradox. I'm

660
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:27.679
not a math person because I'm more of a word

661
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:29.920
guy with my book learning. But if you add all

662
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.440
that stuff together for a fan scorer and averages on

663
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.000
my slide rule turn out to say fan score of

664
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:41.840
nine point seven people, which is pretty freaking fantastic. So amazing.

665
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.400
Let's see what else bubbles up from our conversations. How's that,

666
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:48.000
Uncle Jim?

667
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.199
So I wanted to do something a little bit different

668
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.880
starting out. Normally, we would just go around and we

669
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.199
would each give us scores, say we thought about the episode,

670
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.719
but I thought it might be more interesting then if

671
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.079
we each if I we had talking points for each

672
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.639
one of us, and then we could share our thoughts

673
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.800
on the episode. So I wanted to start off with David,

674
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:13.559
and I wanted to talk to David a little bit

675
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:17.559
about this phasing technology that we see the Martians used,

676
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:23.840
since David is our resident miracle worker. So what did

677
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.519
you think about the phasing technology? David?

678
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.719
Well, the way Phacian worked, Jim is that you have

679
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:35.159
to know, okay, So I actually thought it was kind

680
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:40.360
of interesting to see how uh you know, so far

681
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.440
back millions of years or whatever, alien race heat or

682
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.480
Roman galaxy. I thought that was kind of a cool concept.

683
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.400
And the fact that they had technology that seemed to

684
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:53.440
have been more advanced than where we are now, if

685
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.320
I was, like you know, with t Osh that I

686
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:58.960
thought it was interesting. Like I mean, the fact that

687
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.880
the aliens sort of reminded me a lot like the remulants,

688
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.079
and the fact that they just had phasing technology like

689
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:09.920
they didn't TNG. I thought that was kind of an interesting,

690
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:16.960
uh you know, nostalgia in a way to let fans

691
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:21.280
know that, you know, there's still around to still technologies

692
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.639
and everything like that. So I don't know, I actually

693
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:24.119
kind of liked it.

694
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.199
I thought it was I thought it was a bit strange.

695
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.559
I thought there was a phasing technology to me means

696
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.880
you can pass through something. I didn't think phasing technology

697
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:41.119
meant you could pass through space and into another ship.

698
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:46.559
That was kind of strange, I thought, but interesting because

699
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:50.920
that would make phasing technology, I think, better than transporters. Yeah,

700
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:55.079
in my opinion. Anyways, anybody else want to add anything

701
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:59.119
on the phasing before I move on? And so my

702
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.719
next question, which is going to go to v Nope, okay,

703
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:07.599
so V, I wanted to ask you about this brand

704
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:15.559
new Vulcan that we have on the show, obviously, cadet Asha.

705
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.920
Now we we saw they added Magel to Prodigy, which

706
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.199
was a huge addition and really improved season two. We

707
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.000
saw them add to Helene to lower Decks, who we

708
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.679
talked to on this podcast and she was awesome as well.

709
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:34.760
And now we have cadet Asha. And what do you

710
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:36.599
think about Ashen? Where do you think they're going to

711
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:37.880
be taking her character?

712
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:51.199
Asha was a shoal, but she was rude. But god,

713
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.760
I mean her is just trying to you know, trying

714
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.719
to be nice and speak her language and everything because

715
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.519
we know her are like languages, but for her to

716
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:06.400
be I mean, she made she to me, she almost

717
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:11.360
made what's his name Renac looked like you know a

718
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:14.960
Teddy Bears my god? Or No, he was he was

719
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.039
a Romulin Sorry, uh made? Uh what's the guy on

720
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.440
the d S nine, the from the baseball episode? I

721
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:25.039
can't think of his name right now.

722
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:25.840
But.

723
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:35.360
No, it wasn't the one that kept on. No, Romulin

724
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:40.159
was Renac. It was a Vulcan and I can't think

725
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.880
of his name. Now, no, no, no, that's that's somebody

726
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:51.119
else that's in uh uh anyway something. Yes, both the

727
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.760
d S nine. No, this one wasn't take me on

728
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.920
to the hollow suite, and he was just smug and arrogant.

729
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:00.960
But she was downright bitch. She got lock, thank you.

730
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:05.320
Yeah, that's who it was.

731
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.960
She made him look perfume, like like a Teddy bear

732
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:12.599
that you know. But God, I mean her is just

733
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:14.599
trying to be nice and she just have to be

734
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.760
totally just bitchy as hell. Thank God. I don't you know,

735
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:22.639
I see her getting uh uh you know, there's an

736
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:26.280
air lock. She suddenly I see her going out on

737
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:30.719
air lock by accident. I don't know, but they've got it.

738
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:33.079
They've got to do something with her because that was

739
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:39.880
just so god just awful, very very off putting.

740
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.119
I I hope I hope that as the season goes

741
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.880
on that they kind of they mellow her out a

742
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.800
little bit and uh make her more of a part

743
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.960
of the Maybe they'll keep her there, you know, like

744
00:43:54.079 --> 00:44:00.119
a Pulaski type of a character, you know, but a.

745
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.800
Red show, she's gonna kind of.

746
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:07.800
Just very off putting. And it's like, God, you know,

747
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.519
that's just I don't know. We'll see, like I said,

748
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.679
she'll either she will either mellow out a tiny bit

749
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:18.000
or she'll you know, go out on air lock. I

750
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:21.440
don't know, but yeah, I just very very off putting.

751
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:27.280
God maybe the M one thirteen Salt vampire will get her,

752
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.719
who knows. But it's nice to see them put a

753
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.159
new character to shake up the dynamic.

754
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:33.239
A little bit.

755
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:38.559
So I thought that was cool. So Charles, we already

756
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.239
hinted at it in our cadet training. It was either

757
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:43.360
going to be you or Eric, so it went to you.

758
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.599
But let's talk a little bit about Pelly's comment about

759
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:53.440
witnessing a stage ten U spatial anomaly from a phone,

760
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.599
and we talked about it briefly. But you're our resident

761
00:44:57.639 --> 00:44:59.840
who will be in so enlighten us a little bit.

762
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.599
Okay, Well, I wouldn't have mentioned one thing about the vulcan.

763
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.239
I almost wonder if she's the equivalency of a teenager

764
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.719
in human years, because she definitely had the attitude.

765
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.559
And I'm not sure quite fit on the ship. As

766
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:27.119
for the As for the phone booth, somebody didn't retference. Well,

767
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:28.400
that could have been Bill and Ted.

768
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.400
I don't think Bill and Ted were flying around in

769
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:33.920
space visiting anomalies.

770
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:36.559
But Doctor Who, on.

771
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:40.840
The other hand, yes, he's been known for flying around

772
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.199
the universe and looking at someone what's out there. And

773
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.480
because the way its ship's set up, he can actually

774
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:54.000
open the door and there's a ship's version of shields

775
00:45:55.039 --> 00:46:00.320
that he can not be a not have being out

776
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.559
of the ship. So I'm pretty sure is one of

777
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:05.800
the doctors. I'm gonna say it was probably one of

778
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:10.360
the new one of the newer doctors. Not sure which one,

779
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.480
but I'm pretty sure she was with one of the

780
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:13.960
doctors at one point.

781
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.079
I I thought that was it. That's actually the second

782
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.320
time she made a reference to Doctor Who, so you

783
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:27.760
definitely had to mention that. And of course, Paul I

784
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.559
saved the best for last. So uh, let's talk a

785
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:36.639
little bit about the Doldroom and about not the Federation,

786
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:42.960
but about Pike allowing genocide basically in this episode to

787
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:47.119
save the Federation. I wanted to talk a little bit

788
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:47.639
about that.

789
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.039
Yeah, I don't know that this is black and white

790
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.800
as that, because it's like it's I think it's from

791
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:56.880
his point of view, it's obvious he's making like this

792
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.239
instinctive choice based on like, you know, not so much

793
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.320
like he's consciously allowing genocide, but he's very he's invoking

794
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.880
fealty to the future he knows has to exist so

795
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.719
for whatever reasons, Right, And then they discuss that a

796
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.400
little bit more at the end. Right, So it's just

797
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:15.639
like he's the he gets really hung up on the

798
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.679
fact there is that fifth planet is not there and

799
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.239
the reality we come from. Therefore, if we want to

800
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.199
go back to that reality, we have to make sure

801
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:26.000
that things don't change on a fundamental way or let

802
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:28.719
things happen as there. It's it's strange because you can

803
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:30.679
get into this one of these time travel conversations that

804
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.280
go on and on and on. It's an interesting dilemma, right.

805
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.760
I think it's we've seen insect species, you know, in

806
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.119
Star Trek a few times in the past. Right, the

807
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:44.039
Zindi come to mind, right from Star Trek, Starship Star

808
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:49.000
Trek Enterprise. It's probably the most popular one you can

809
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.920
think of. But the thing is, when you get into that, right,

810
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:57.079
it's just like we tend to anthropoporphasize a lot, because

811
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:01.239
when you start talking about an insect species, right, all

812
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.480
of a sudden, it's like, we don't empathize with them

813
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.559
like we do with another mammalian spacies at all. They

814
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.719
become like things. Right, It's very easy for us to

815
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.400
go around our house to kill a bug because to us,

816
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.840
we have some kind of weird primordial aversion to them, right.

817
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.320
And I think they were kind of riffing on that

818
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.840
a little bit on this episode, right, because it's like, oh,

819
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.320
with millions of them, their monsters, right, there's no compassion

820
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:28.199
towards insects at all, until you know, at some point

821
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:32.119
Pike raises the concept of like, well, wait a minute,

822
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:35.039
maybe just can't communicate with them, you know, And there's

823
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:38.559
all different ways you could potentially communicate. Even the smell

824
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.000
gets mentioned as a different method of communication, right, So,

825
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:47.039
and the stakes are just too protracted for Commander Cassel

826
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:50.320
to even stop to consider that she's lost too much

827
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:54.679
at this point, so she's not nually considerate. I think

828
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.239
that a really cool moment is on the planet's surface though,

829
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:03.360
when Ortegas and everybody finds the crashed Doldrum's ship, right,

830
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:06.280
she's like, you know, it makes a comment. Initially, there's

831
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.400
an aversion when there's a jump scare, when one of

832
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.960
them has a reflex movement movement or whatever. Right, but

833
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:13.880
she's like, hey, you know, they were just trying to

834
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.519
survive like we were. And so there's actually the one

835
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:21.519
moment in the show where there is you know, an

836
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.519
empathy for an insect species, right, And I believe it

837
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.440
was Ortegis who got that line. I think because you know,

838
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:31.320
she's had I think a lot of her empathy towards

839
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:35.519
things you might be otherwise revolted by is coming to

840
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:38.639
being since her encounter with the Gorn last season. Right,

841
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:42.280
So the things that look different and can be initially

842
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:46.320
something you would be you know, afraid of or repulse by,

843
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.760
she's got an empathy towards them now that has previously

844
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.000
not been there, which I think is really interesting. And

845
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.000
then to circle back at the very end, you can

846
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:58.480
tell in that scene with April and Pike at the

847
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.039
end right where he feels really step about this, right,

848
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.159
he's you know, but Ben's like, hey, I got to

849
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:04.880
make peace about it. But I think he's just like,

850
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.480
you know, I felt reflexively he made this like gut

851
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:12.079
call to essentially, yeah, wipe out another species there, but

852
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.360
he felt like he almost like it was a preordained

853
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.360
thing and things that are preordained really wayh on this

854
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.679
guy for ways. I'm sure we'll be exploring a lot

855
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.519
in the next couple of seasons here, given we've seen

856
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.840
Pike's fate in the original series. How will they approach that?

857
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.519
We don't know, but thematically this is all tied up

858
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.920
in that, so the idea of like something's being faded.

859
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.039
I think he feels a lot of guilt about it, though.

860
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.159
I think he really does, and I suspect I thought

861
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.119
he was a lot more in this episode like the

862
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:42.599
Pike we've seen from the original series. He was, you know,

863
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.960
less lack of days ago, taking things more seriously. I

864
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.880
think he was really a great iteration of the original

865
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.280
series character. But I think the guilt of what he

866
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:55.840
had to do or felt he had no choice but

867
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.840
to do. He's going to probably come back again this

868
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.719
season would be my guest. But fascinating stuff to discuss though.

869
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:07.000
I mean, there is a lot of rich, rich content

870
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:07.719
in this episode.

871
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:13.199
When when we saw the Doulgrum ship on Earth, did

872
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.559
you get LB four th six alien vibes coming out

873
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:18.440
of that ship when we first saw it, Because I

874
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:21.639
immediately thought, oh, this is very bad. We're gonna have

875
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.800
face suckers, We're gonna have eggs. I got an immediate

876
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.039
I got an alien's LVO right away. I didn't so much.

877
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:31.280
It's funny and you I don't know if you know

878
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.519
this picture, but the one that it reminded to me

879
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:36.480
is as an old English picture from like the late

880
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:41.159
sixties called quator Mass in the Pit in this country,

881
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.159
in this country. It was related. It was retitled in

882
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:48.079
America called five Million Years to Earth. But they they

883
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:51.360
dig up the London underground, right the tube stations, and

884
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.880
they find these caverns and things like that, and there's

885
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:57.800
like they find that there were like ancient alien insect

886
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:02.880
like remains, you know, beneath the London subway system, right,

887
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:05.159
and then you get this weird flash vision of like

888
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.639
what it would have been like had they, you know,

889
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.800
had their domain. It's really fascinating stuff. That's that's where

890
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.880
my mind went right more just because they were insects.

891
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:17.159
I went. I went to quator Mass in the Pit,

892
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:19.599
but which is really interesting. If you've never seen it,

893
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.159
I recommend it. But it's just I think it's it's

894
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.000
interesting when shows. Yeah, I remember watching it as a

895
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.679
kid a bunch of TV. But you use the insects

896
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:30.679
if you want to sort of have the audience like,

897
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.880
go oh, I'm not going to have empathy for them

898
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:37.599
because they're insects, right. I just watched the old Creature

899
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.719
feature of them about the giant ants, which was a

900
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:45.199
super influence on aliens by the way, really interesting thing there.

901
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.159
It's just like you have no compunction about, like, you know,

902
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:49.639
flame throwing a giant bunch of ants, right, even though

903
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.880
they're screaming in terror, because they're insects. And it really

904
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.960
makes you question when you stop and go outside of

905
00:52:56.039 --> 00:53:00.719
yourself and think, how do I value life? Just certain

906
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.079
kinds of familiar life that I value, right, So that's

907
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:06.639
the kind of thing Startrek does so well. It makes

908
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.880
you reflect on those kind of questions. And I think

909
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.639
that having it be an insect species was a really

910
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:14.880
really good choice and it just brings a lot of

911
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:18.280
interesting stuff to the to the to the table to discuss.

912
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.199
So what a great script. I have to say, this

913
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.199
was a really phenomenal for the most part episode.

914
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.519
Did anyone else have any thoughts on the dolgerom and

915
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.800
you know, genocide wiping them all out?

916
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:33.000
Yeah?

917
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:37.760
And the implications that you know, she wiped ended up

918
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.679
wiping them out, but wiping out Mars at the same time.

919
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:44.199
Now I'm like, I'm with Paul. I thought about that

920
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:47.599
quator Mass movie too, because I first saw that as

921
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:52.920
a kid and the Tent Nightmare for a while, that was, yeah,

922
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.960
super creepy. They were like, uh, those that were called

923
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:59.960
giant brasshopper looking things. But I also think about it

924
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:05.280
another DS nine episode about where somebody mentions to Odo about, oh,

925
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:08.159
just you know, you just eradicate them like you would

926
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.840
step on ants, and Odo says, I don't step on ants,

927
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:17.320
you know. So that just showed his concern for all

928
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:23.360
life forms. But yeah, it was those some of the

929
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:29.559
creatures were yeah, you just have that that automatic rob

930
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.800
just I just had a flash of Men in Black

931
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:36.719
where uh, you know, the giant cockroach with an attitude

932
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:41.039
and and uh where JS Kate, you were stung as

933
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:50.960
a child, weren't you. Oh But anyway, yeah, I thought it.

934
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.960
I thought it was really fascinating that her actions to

935
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:59.440
wipe out her enemy actually wiped out her own planet

936
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:03.920
as well. You know, just imagine the implications if they

937
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:08.079
had shot down that that missile. The Doldrum would have

938
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:13.920
continued to exist, Mars would have continued to exist. Earth well,

939
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.679
wouldn't be the way it is today. I don't think

940
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:21.039
it's It's a great question upon and something that I

941
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.599
don't think we can answer here on this podcast. But

942
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:26.880
it is an interesting question to think about, for sure.

943
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.079
Yeah, makes you think that's parship troopers coming to being.

944
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:33.960
Well, Jim.

945
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:39.440
They do reference that the Doldrum ship a piece of

946
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:44.480
it fell to Earth, which they think was the asteroid

947
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:45.840
that fell to Earth and.

948
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:49.119
Eventually ended the dinosaurs.

949
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.280
If that piece hadn't leaned on Earth, we might not

950
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:56.880
have lost the dinosaurs and civilization might have been different.

951
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:02.639
And also I recall.

952
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:06.880
It was a giant hunk of the planet.

953
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:08.840
Yeah, yeah, it was.

954
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:13.159
Didn't in Benga tell Pike at the end that the

955
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.079
Martian DNA survived.

956
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:17.920
I got a lot so some of them, some of

957
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:21.639
them must have escaped at some point. They made, you know,

958
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.400
likelihood they'd already left before this, right, like some of

959
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:26.960
you know athid like, oh look, our planet's going to explode.

960
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.400
We have thirty seconds morning, And I doubt it was

961
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.079
like that, but brobby Martian explorers in the past and

962
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:37.400
gone out deeper in the right. That's that's the intimation, right.

963
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:41.119
Either way, it was it was. It was great to

964
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:45.559
have starts like back, especially at this particular caliber. I'm

965
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:50.159
so glad that it's bad. So for my score of

966
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:53.039
this episode, we'll start off with our see how we

967
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:55.119
rank next to our fans and what was our fans

968
00:56:55.159 --> 00:57:02.280
score again? N nine point seven. That's pretty fy, all right.

969
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:06.400
I really really liked the the interplay that they put

970
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:11.639
in here between Ortegas and Scotty. I thought it was

971
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.719
great when uh, she's calling him on the Enterprise and

972
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:18.119
he's calling a dinosaur a laddie, and she kind of

973
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.400
uh puts it back in him, you know, at him.

974
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.920
Oh no, it's not a Letty, it's a Lessie. I

975
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:27.719
thought that whole interplay was great. He's putting lights on

976
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.960
everything and blaming me for flying the ship too dangerous

977
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.599
and whatnot. And I thought it was great that Scotty

978
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.559
actually has more to do than just fixed stuff. He

979
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.639
actually interacts with the rest of the crew, which was awesome.

980
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:46.360
I did enjoy watching Horror interact with Asha again. We

981
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:49.280
get to see her as a mentor instead of a mentee,

982
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:53.760
which was really cool when they're getting promoted. I thought,

983
00:57:53.920 --> 00:58:00.599
was it's about time, uh pla questioning his own morality

984
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:03.840
here because Pipe knows what his fate is going to be,

985
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:10.159
So questioning pre ordained, destined paradoxes or whatever they call

986
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.119
it on Star Trek I was fitting for his character.

987
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:17.519
So I thought that was great. The dinosaur scenes on Earth,

988
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.800
the CG that they used on was like right out

989
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.960
of Jurassic Park, guys. I mean, this was some good stuff.

990
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:30.440
It looked great. I was really really impressed. What else,

991
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:37.280
Pike actually using the saddle that we saw Boimler climb

992
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.960
on in the crossover episode. It's been sitting in Pike's

993
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:44.000
quarters all this time. Well now he used it, So

994
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:48.760
I thought that was really cool. Yeah. I enjoyed this episode.

995
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:50.920
Had a really good Star Trek feel to it, And

996
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:55.400
I think, you know what, I don't want to give

997
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.719
it a ten, but I will I will go. I

998
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:01.280
will go nine point five because I know that Paul

999
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.440
loves those decimals, So I'm going to go with a

1000
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.719
nine point five on this particular episode just because you know,

1001
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:10.840
I don't want to start with a ten because where

1002
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:12.960
do we go from here? So I'm going to go

1003
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:16.840
with a nine point five on this particular episode, and

1004
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:20.920
I'm going to pass a microphone over to the right.

1005
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:25.360
Yeah, well we can start off because I have a

1006
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:29.239
bit of a strange New World story. David. If you

1007
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:36.800
could chose a picture of myself getting to meet Ethan Peck.

1008
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:37.639
Oh my god.

1009
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:41.000
I was at Galaxy Con Richmond this Sace March. I

1010
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:43.880
waited in line for like an hour and a half

1011
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.920
for him to appear. Oh my god, he looks in

1012
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.440
just endearingly doofy there, but oh my god, he is

1013
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:55.559
so handsome and having been a fan of his grandfather

1014
00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:58.320
in case y'all don't know, been living under a rock.

1015
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:02.519
His grandfather is Gregory past who was in to kill

1016
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:07.920
a mockingbird, and the man that he the black man

1017
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:11.760
that was on trial, was played by none of them,

1018
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.280
Rock Peters, who will later on portray Cisco's dad in

1019
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:19.400
d S nine. So there's that connection. But getting to

1020
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:23.039
meet him was just a huge thrill. I was able

1021
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:26.639
to comment on how he I was impressed with his

1022
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:31.639
dancing when he and Lahn do the tango and found

1023
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:33.880
out that when they did four and a half Balcans

1024
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:38.320
with Patton Oswalt that that was all patents. I said

1025
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:41.519
that that had to be hard to keep the straight face,

1026
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:44.079
and he said, oh, it was so anyway, that's my

1027
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:50.719
little story there. It was just a fantastic episode anything

1028
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:55.800
with writing, because I'm a former equestrian and just seeing

1029
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:02.920
them galloping across the planet was just really agnificent. The

1030
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:08.280
like you were saying, uh, uncle Jim the dinosaur h

1031
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:11.079
c G. I was fantastic. And you know, we just

1032
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:17.000
recently lost Sam Neal been in Jurassic Park. So and

1033
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:20.719
of course I'm punching the dinosaur. That's going to be

1034
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:26.000
it's going to be hard for her to live down.

1035
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:30.039
But no, just a whole paradox with the uh, you know,

1036
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:33.840
making decisions. You know, we're all uh you know, it's

1037
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:38.920
always history is always full of what if and uh

1038
01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:44.920
get lost of its connected rep Hi can you hear me?

1039
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:58.639
Clue we're having some difficulty here for me. Yes, now

1040
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:07.039
now we can hear you. No, well we could. Oh,

1041
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:17.519
so overall the what did you think? What would you

1042
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:24.840
give it on a scale of one to ten? H.

1043
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:28.800
I think we're going to have to come back to the.

1044
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:32.119
I know, keep I'm sorry, I'm having my connection issues.

1045
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:37.679
I'm aggravating. M hmm, all right, I'll be back.

1046
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:44.960
Sorry, Okay, we'll move along to David while we wait

1047
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.519
for VI to reconnect. What do you think, David?

1048
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:50.800
I liked it, I didn't like it.

1049
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:52.559
I liked it, and then I didn't like it, and

1050
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:53.119
I liked it.

1051
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:54.360
So overall I liked it.

1052
01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:57.760
Okay, that's okay.

1053
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:02.559
My my favorite things so far have been, of course,

1054
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:05.480
punch in the Din, so I thought was kind of funny.

1055
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:10.320
The other parts of the show I thought was really

1056
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:15.199
well done with the idea of going to Earth at

1057
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:19.239
this stage and time, which was kind of fun to witness.

1058
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.400
But then I started realizing I mentioned that they kind

1059
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:25.800
of reminded me of Romulans, and this is supposed to

1060
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.239
be what sixty five million years in the past. Are

1061
01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:33.679
these the origins of the Vulcans under kid because if

1062
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:35.679
they found other march in DNA, I don't know. I

1063
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:40.400
mean just thinking like that the Vulcans like somehow get

1064
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:45.679
seated with March and alien BNA or something, so I

1065
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.800
don't know. It's kind of an interesting thought, and how

1066
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:50.400
it kind of makes sense that the Vulcans are more

1067
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:54.079
or less, you know, sympathetic to us in a sense

1068
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:57.039
or empathetic as you say, to us, to the point

1069
01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.960
where they're just like you're trying to help humanity drive

1070
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.480
forward and everything. The thought of that just now thinking,

1071
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:08.159
because they look very similar without of course the ears

1072
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.760
more rounded than pointy, but still it's it's interesting thought.

1073
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:16.760
But overall, the dinosaurs, who doesn't like dinosaurs just kind

1074
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.480
of fun to watch. And I do agree with you,

1075
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:25.480
Jim that the the CGI would really sought on and

1076
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:28.599
they did a pretty good job, even though the dinosaurs

1077
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:32.000
didn't really do a whole lot in this particular episode.

1078
01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:34.800
I mean, in the whole episode, I should say it's

1079
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:40.599
a forgetting punch. But overall, I really enjoyed it. There

1080
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:42.800
was a lot of loopholes that I thought were kind

1081
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.599
of strange because I have to go through this just

1082
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:48.199
to get out of my system. So in the very beginning,

1083
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:51.480
when they got damage and everybody was like sent back

1084
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:55.880
in the past, Scotty specifically said that the transporters are

1085
01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.159
offline and that he doesn't know when they might come

1086
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:02.760
on or if. But then when they were getting ready

1087
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.159
to transport those people aboard the ship, they were in

1088
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:08.039
the transporters, I'm like, wait a minute, I thought the

1089
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:10.920
transporters weren't working. So I don't know, it was just

1090
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:12.760
something that I had to have to get off my chest.

1091
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:16.719
I was just like, I just kind of drew me

1092
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:18.760
back a little bit from the story. But I was just,

1093
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:21.920
you know, other than that, it was just little bits

1094
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:23.559
in here that you know, I just have to pick

1095
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.920
at because it's just something that I noticed. But other

1096
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.159
than that, yeah, this whole episode.

1097
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:31.119
I I.

1098
01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:35.000
Was going to give it a really low score until

1099
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:40.880
they brought in the idea that they were in Soul

1100
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:45.559
System and the idea that there was a fifth planet

1101
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:49.400
between Jupiter and Mars. I thought that was a really

1102
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:52.199
clever idea to explain why we have that asteroid belt,

1103
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:55.960
and to me, that just brought the whole score up

1104
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:59.079
to me. And the idea that the rock or the

1105
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:02.360
media that I destroyed donnay Shoy came from that planet,

1106
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.800
which I thought was even cooler. And so I don't know,

1107
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.480
this whole episode to me was actually really spot on,

1108
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.280
And I'm glad that they kind of started off with

1109
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.199
this episode. If they started off with the puppet episode,

1110
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:16.840
it might have been a way different story.

1111
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:22.960
But to me, I think this particular episode deserves close

1112
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:23.519
to a ten.

1113
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:25.159
I don't want to give it a ten because of

1114
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:28.559
some of the other things I know that I'm forgetting

1115
01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:31.599
about what I kind of was like eh about. But

1116
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:34.559
other than that, I think I'm going to actually give

1117
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:36.000
this episode an eight.

1118
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.119
All right, So we got an eight from David Paul

1119
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:43.039
You want to jump in next?

1120
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:48.599
Really? Absolutely yeah, phenomenal work on this across the Bow, right,

1121
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.360
every single thing. I thought it was great. You know,

1122
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:54.760
I complain a lot about writing, right, I really do,

1123
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:57.440
because it's it's it's the foundation of everything. And the

1124
01:06:57.480 --> 01:07:00.559
writing on this episode was really really strong, right. I

1125
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:03.280
thought it was really good. It was a very uh

1126
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:09.239
evokes those classic science fiction conundrums that some of our

1127
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:11.800
fans mentioned, right, I mean, and but not in a

1128
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:15.639
repetitive way, right, And I think they really brought a

1129
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:18.639
lot of fresh life into it very creatively kept it

1130
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:22.599
very character focused as well. I just cannot say enough

1131
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:25.800
about the Saffron Burroughs, who was the Commander Cassell. I mean,

1132
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:28.440
it's just like a lot of times you get these

1133
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:30.599
people who come in and they portray like a gust

1134
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:31.480
alien or whatever.

1135
01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.519
You forget them five minutes after the screen, right, and.

1136
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:39.519
Every kind of ass. I mean, it was such a

1137
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:42.519
measured performance.

1138
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:42.800
Right.

1139
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.199
She starts off she's absolutely don't want to hear anything

1140
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:47.280
about anything except weapons. Right, But then they have a

1141
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:50.199
meeting in the minds right about you know, Pike really

1142
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:53.679
convinces her about you know, Star trek Ethos and the community,

1143
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:56.599
and she's like initially in the whole charrot and thestic

1144
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:59.719
conversation they had was hilarious, you know, but but not

1145
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:01.000
just for cheap laughs.

1146
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:01.440
Right.

1147
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.760
I thought she was just remarkable. It was a really,

1148
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:09.239
really memorable performance. I just thought she really just brought

1149
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:12.800
the whole level of the show up to a much

1150
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.360
higher tier because of the work she did. So I

1151
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:19.439
thought she did fantastic. There's little things I have quibbles

1152
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:23.800
with right here and there. I was going out of

1153
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:27.680
my skin during like the opening sequence or one of

1154
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:31.319
the first briefing conversations. God love you, Carolcane. I think

1155
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.920
you're a wonderful person. I've enjoyed your work, but I

1156
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:38.239
cannot stand this Pellia character. Okay, she just drives me crazy.

1157
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.840
And the fan service doctor who references this referencing thing

1158
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.800
that just referencing is not writing. I'm sorry, but throwing

1159
01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:48.880
in something. Oh, I recognize this because this is that

1160
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:51.880
that is not writing and it just strives me nuts.

1161
01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:55.279
And she was just overacting to such a preposterous degree

1162
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:59.680
with this accent. I just get her off the show, please.

1163
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:04.960
I agree with you. I didn't like Paulia last year,

1164
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:09.039
but now that we have Scottie, she's a fifth wheel.

1165
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.239
We don't really need her anymore. What Scottish.

1166
01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.199
Yeah, it's just she's just doing all these things to

1167
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:19.920
get attention. It's just like mugging, like to the camera

1168
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:26.319
right to get attention, these big, unnecessary, you know, selfish moments.

1169
01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:28.880
It's just not good acting. I'm sorry. I just I

1170
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:31.279
just find the character really annoying and I don't like

1171
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:32.640
what she's doing with it so well.

1172
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:36.960
She makes stupid assessments like, oh, the tendrils grabbed us

1173
01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:39.319
like little fingers holding us in place, like we all

1174
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.640
know what we are trying to escape with little tiny

1175
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:44.600
flippers that are really really tiny. You can't.

1176
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:49.079
It's it's so file. She's like a child Dan and

1177
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:50.920
I went that on the Star Trek. So she's just

1178
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.680
too childish. So yeah, that that, you know, But I

1179
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:57.720
am refusing as much as that annoyed me, Like it's okay,

1180
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.079
Like at the very end of the show, right, they

1181
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.800
ended on this great note with Una getting promoted, and

1182
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:08.239
then there was this weird extra scene, preposterously over budgeted, long,

1183
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:11.439
lingering CG shot of all the dinosaurs going over the planet.

1184
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:14.079
Like it kind of ruined the moment at the end,

1185
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:15.680
right because it was just like, we don't need to

1186
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:19.840
see this, you know, crazy you know, God's eye view

1187
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:23.000
of the fucking you know dinosaurs. It was annoying. I'm like,

1188
01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:26.520
you're you're, you're kind of you know, you ended on

1189
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.159
a bad moment, right because we don't need that. We've

1190
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:31.239
already seen it. You know, you're just trying to show

1191
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:33.439
off the effects money or whatever. So it's just that

1192
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.640
that drove me crazy. So again, are the things that

1193
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.760
bothered me, little minor things like that, hiccups? Yeah, but

1194
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:41.199
you know what, when somebody does really good work, it

1195
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:44.439
should be rewarded. And you don't let that torpedo your score. Right,

1196
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:46.439
That's how I say. I said that they deserve nothing

1197
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:49.680
but like tremendous kudos for writing and delivering a really

1198
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:53.199
top tier classic science fiction episode that to me falls

1199
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.479
in line with the best stuff we wishould hope Star

1200
01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:58.840
Trek does so. For me, unabashed ten, I thought it

1201
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:03.359
was great. This isn't the you know, work like this

1202
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.039
doesn't deserve to be nitpicked. I would say it deserves

1203
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:08.600
to be embraced. And more of this, please, Henry A.

1204
01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:10.720
Lonzo Myers, and everyone else who had anything to do

1205
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:12.399
with the screenwriting on here. I think he did a

1206
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:17.439
great job everyone. With that one exception, I'm throwing that back.

1207
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:20.560
And you know, so we've got no Kirk in this

1208
01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:22.199
episode too, but I'm pretty sure we're getting a lot

1209
01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:24.840
of Kirk tonight in episode two. So you know, you

1210
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:26.760
have to measure these things out. But this was a

1211
01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:31.960
top tier well written episode. Ten ten ten, All right,

1212
01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:32.880
there we go.

1213
01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:35.399
It's ten. So Cho, you got to bring up the

1214
01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:37.439
caboose here unless we get v back.

1215
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:43.560
Okay, Well, one thing to come off a poll. He

1216
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:47.760
didn't like the dinosaur scene. I like the dinosaur scene

1217
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:50.920
because you had the crew members, you had the core

1218
01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:56.039
crew members all they at the table, even having the

1219
01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:59.079
the pilot and the engineer.

1220
01:11:58.840 --> 01:11:59.960
Who were sneering in each other.

1221
01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:04.479
But like, okay, we got to see dinosaurs, like tell

1222
01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:07.399
us about the dinosaurs. They want to hear about the dinosaurs.

1223
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:11.439
They want to hear what happened the planet because nobody

1224
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.520
else got to see it. And I think that was

1225
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:18.239
the crew excited to see what they went through, what

1226
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:23.079
they saw on that planet, because the only thing there

1227
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:27.159
used to seeing is history books, and they wanted they

1228
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:29.600
wanted to hear stories from somebody who was there.

1229
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:33.319
So I like that.

1230
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:37.000
I actually like Pelia just because Okay, she's more of

1231
01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:40.680
a child. No, she's not a child, she's an older adult.

1232
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:44.880
She's a real senior because of we knowing her age,

1233
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:49.039
and we know the fact that she has does not

1234
01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:53.600
have plot armor, so we know something's going to happen

1235
01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:57.560
to her in this season or next. But I think

1236
01:12:57.640 --> 01:12:59.960
it may be the fact that she's gonna vent shoot,

1237
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.319
really decide something's gonna happen to where she's gonna move

1238
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:09.359
on and she will let Scottie take over engineering because

1239
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:12.840
right now she is the lead for engineering. So I

1240
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:15.119
think it's a wait and see what's happened with her

1241
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:22.840
thing of a plot armor. I'm looking at Lawn at

1242
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:26.199
the end where she said, Okay, I had the dinosaur

1243
01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:30.720
in my fist and I didn't feel any pain. It's like, Okay,

1244
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:35.840
I think that's an insight to another storyline coming in

1245
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:41.000
this season next. I think that's definitely showing effect of

1246
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:44.680
maybe where we might lose her is because the fact

1247
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:48.760
that she is a Noonian Singh and that maybe she

1248
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:54.239
is coming is inheriting some of the abilities that she

1249
01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:56.680
thought she had not had because she thought the gene

1250
01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:58.079
was recessive.

1251
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:02.000
And Bega and.

1252
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:06.119
In April discussion.

1253
01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:10.079
That made me felt like this was a more it

1254
01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:15.800
was the word this was a more deeper episode when

1255
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:19.199
the effect admitting it's like, okay, and I really hadn't

1256
01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:22.000
really thought about this, but they were chasing down their

1257
01:14:22.119 --> 01:14:27.039
own distress beacon. They were looking at the planets and

1258
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.439
we talked about, oh, there's no fifth planet. Well there

1259
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:36.000
is a fifth planet, but it's not this planet. It's Jupiter.

1260
01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:39.359
Is the fifth planet, Jupiter in this set with the

1261
01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:42.840
sixth planet, So we know something that's going to have

1262
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:49.520
to happen. And definitely we're looking at the fact. It's like, okay,

1263
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:55.439
doctor who references the fact that there are points in

1264
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.920
there strict points in time, there are points in time

1265
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:04.600
where things cannot change, that things just it has to happen,

1266
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.279
And I wonder if this might be might have been

1267
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:13.279
a fixed point in time where somebody went back in time.

1268
01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:21.920
And was able to change what was going to happen.

1269
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:27.600
And I thought this was interesting because like, well we

1270
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.319
did this. It's like, yeah, well, I think it may

1271
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:32.159
have been the truth that you were meant to do that.

1272
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:35.800
As April says you were meant to do that, there's

1273
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:41.760
something that happened because of the time paradox. And I

1274
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:48.079
thought that was an interesting time paradox. As for score,

1275
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:51.760
I agree with Jim. I'm not sure I get ready

1276
01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:54.920
to come up with a ten yet, but I was

1277
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.039
thinking the same thing Jim was, this was a good

1278
01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:03.359
nine point five right there up which up where it

1279
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:03.800
should be?

1280
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:08.279
All right, we got V back. Yeah, we got nine

1281
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:11.840
point five from Charles, and how about you VU. Yeah.

1282
01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:15.600
I rated a nine point five as well because it

1283
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.520
was it was really really good. But I mean, we've

1284
01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:22.000
got a Muppet episode coming out time saving my ten

1285
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:26.960
for that. I just hope I all right now. All

1286
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:30.079
I can say is I hope I can stay connected.

1287
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:34.199
My internet sucked anyway. Just got I'm back, So there

1288
01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:34.359
you go.

1289
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:42.319
All right, So Charles, how did the truck's first pile up?

1290
01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:45.199
Next to our Facebook fans for this week's score.

1291
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.359
Well, the fans gave this one a nine point seven

1292
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:54.279
and the truck spirts gave it a nine point three.

1293
01:16:55.439 --> 01:17:02.439
Oh wow, that's that's pretty damns actually pritty damn close.

1294
01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:05.600
So there you have it, guys, Trek Spurts versus fans

1295
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:09.319
pretty much spot on. All right. Well, that finishes up

1296
01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:13.600
our conversation on Star Trek Strange New World season four

1297
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:18.119
episode one. We'll be tackling episode two next week, so

1298
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:22.079
stay tuned, same BAT time, same BAT channel. So I'm

1299
01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:25.760
looking forward to that, all right. So this is the

1300
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:29.199
part of the show where we do our sci fi birthdays.

1301
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:52.640
Roll the tape, David rolling. That was not a Clinton song,

1302
01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:55.199
all right, guys.

1303
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:58.239
Usually I will start off on our sci fi birthdays

1304
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:01.119
by sadly enough remembering those members of our family who

1305
01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:04.439
are no longer with us, and usually we would turn

1306
01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:07.920
to Eric. We are going to turn to V this week.

1307
01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:11.880
V has volunteered to step in for Eric, but if

1308
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.439
V has technical difficulties, we will have Paul step in

1309
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.479
and pick up the slack. So take it away, V.

1310
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:22.279
All right, I'm going to feed through while I've got connection.

1311
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:27.840
So one of my favorite actors. Remember we were remembering

1312
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:34.199
Yule Brenner. He's Russian born Swiss American film and stage actor,

1313
01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:39.560
best known for his portrayal of King Mongkut of Siam

1314
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:43.920
in one of my favorite musicals, Rogers and Hammerstein, The

1315
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:47.800
King and I. He got two Tony Awards for that

1316
01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:53.159
and an Academy Award for the film version. He also

1317
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:57.600
started as Ramses the Second in the nineteen fifty six

1318
01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:02.840
film The Ten Commandments, Bonin in the nineteen fifty six

1319
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:08.359
film Anastasia, and Chris Adams in The Magnificent Seven, and

1320
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:12.399
in one of his creepiest roles, the Gunslinger in the

1321
01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:19.680
film West World. Next, Happy Birthday Goes to Ron Glass.

1322
01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:25.319
He played Locan in Voyager seventh seventh Pith seventh season

1323
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:30.359
episode Nightingale. Best known for his Emmy nominated role as

1324
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:35.119
Detective Ron Harris on the TV series Barney Miller and

1325
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:42.560
Shepherd book in Firefly. Next, We Wish a Heavenly Happy Birthday,

1326
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:47.119
Chips Andy. He was an actor who played a Kuta

1327
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:55.159
in Coos second season episode The Apple. Next. Another favorite

1328
01:19:55.439 --> 01:20:01.640
actor of mine, Terence Stamp He portrayed Rtonians super villain

1329
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:07.880
General zod In Richard Donners Superman. The film's originally supposed

1330
01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:11.239
to be a three hour epic, but Warner Brothers elected

1331
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:15.039
to split the production into two films, Superman and Superman Too.

1332
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:20.680
But he will also always be Bernadette for me anyway,

1333
01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:24.880
in the Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. I

1334
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:29.439
loved him in that role. Next, we're wishing happy Birthday

1335
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:34.000
to Phyllis Douglas. She played Yeoman Mirrors in cos first

1336
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:39.319
season episode The Galileo Seven and Mavig in the third

1337
01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:45.000
season episode The Way to Eden Ah, Here we Go,

1338
01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:49.760
Here's a super villain in the Star Trek World. Louise Fletcher.

1339
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:55.359
She was the Academy Award winning Emmy Award nominated actress

1340
01:20:55.399 --> 01:21:02.760
who played the Bajoran spiritual leader Vedic kai Win Kaiwin

1341
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:07.199
Adami in fourteen episodes of d S nine, where she

1342
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:15.640
famously had a relationship with a disguised Ducat. But she's

1343
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:19.239
best known, of course, for her performances Nurse Mildred Ratchet

1344
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:24.039
in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nets. And lastly, we

1345
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:29.079
are remembering David Warner. He is an English actor who

1346
01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:32.560
plays Saint John Talbot in Star Trek Ok, here we

1347
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:37.279
go in Uncle Jim's favorite Star Trek movie, Star Trek five.

1348
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.520
He was also a Gore Khan in Star Trek six,

1349
01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:47.239
The Undiscovered Country and Madrid in PMG six season episode

1350
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:52.840
ten of Commands Part one and Part two, and Stark

1351
01:21:53.479 --> 01:22:01.239
a Dillinger and the MCP in Fraun All right, now

1352
01:22:01.479 --> 01:22:05.800
we're going on to people who are still with us?

1353
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:07.880
Can you all can still hear me?

1354
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:08.159
Right?

1355
01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:11.800
Oop?

1356
01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:15.239
I knew? Yep, we hear you a lot?

1357
01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:20.439
Good, good, good, all right. My first happy birthday goes

1358
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:25.479
up to Ike Eisenman. He played Peter Preston in Star

1359
01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:30.399
Trek to the Wrath of Khan, where he was Scotty's nephew.

1360
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:34.319
He also appeared in the movie Escape to Which Mountain

1361
01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:38.880
and its sequel Return to Witch Mountains, both of which

1362
01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:42.079
I saw in the movie theaters. He was really he

1363
01:22:42.199 --> 01:22:46.760
was adorable. Next happy birthday goes out to Penelope Mitchell.

1364
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:52.119
She played Renee Picard in the second season episode or

1365
01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:57.239
second season of Star Trek Picard. She also played Helen

1366
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:02.640
impersonating Renee in the episode Farewell. Born and Raised in

1367
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:09.880
Australia to a French artist's mother and an Australian businessman father. Next,

1368
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:14.560
A very happy birthday goes out to Iman. Gorgeous lady,

1369
01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:20.800
very talented. She's a Somali model and actress who played

1370
01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:26.239
Martya in Start to Pick The Undiscovered Country. She was

1371
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:32.079
born in Movidisha, Somalia as Zara Mohammad Abdul Majid, but

1372
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:36.359
her first name was later changed to Iman, meeting space

1373
01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:40.640
in Arabic and some of us might know that she

1374
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:43.640
was married to one of my favorite singers, of course,

1375
01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:50.159
to David Bowie. Next, Happy birthday to somebody we just

1376
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:58.359
saw in The Springs New World, Paul Wesley. Oh, okay,

1377
01:23:58.479 --> 01:24:04.760
hold on this so being stupid here? I just blanked out,

1378
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:12.920
so I can't read the rest of this anyway.

1379
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:18.319
Sorry, I'm just Paul Wesley, who played Captain James T.

1380
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:21.640
Kirk and Strange New World first season episode A Quality

1381
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:24.880
of Mercy, and the second season episodes Tomorrow and Tomorrow

1382
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:30.159
and Tomorrow Lost in Transition and Subspace Rhapsody. The second

1383
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:33.720
season performance earned them a twenty twenty four Saturn Award.

1384
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:37.600
Outside of the franchise, he starred in the series The

1385
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:44.920
Vampire Diaries. Happy Birthday to Paul Wesley. The new James T. Kirk,

1386
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:46.760
are you back with us? Meet?

1387
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:51.359
It's just I'm trying to reconnect or I mean that

1388
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:53.920
I'm reading it off with my tablet and it just

1389
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:57.359
won't let me. I did want to before I lose

1390
01:24:57.479 --> 01:25:03.119
total connection. If I could just have David show the

1391
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:08.720
picture of his happy birthday goes to Nana Visitor, who

1392
01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:12.159
I've met twice now. She's lovely, lovely and of course

1393
01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:18.399
we know her as a major Kira Nourice on Star

1394
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:22.680
Trek DS nine. I have her book Open a Channel,

1395
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:26.600
which I have not read yet, but I'm going to.

1396
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:29.159
But hopefully it would be great if we could get

1397
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:33.560
her on the show. So Happy Birthday to Nana Visitor.

1398
01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:39.239
And not a Visitor. Played kierennesis Space nine, and revisited

1399
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.239
the character as a voice actress in the third season

1400
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:46.439
of the animated series Star Trek Lower Decks, and she

1401
01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:51.680
also appeared as Jason Vorhe's mother, Pamela Vorhees in the

1402
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:55.920
two thousand and nine remake of Friday the Thirteen. Happy

1403
01:25:56.079 --> 01:25:59.640
Verus Tanana Visitor, we have one more birthday and I

1404
01:25:59.680 --> 01:25:59.920
don't know.

1405
01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.640
Yeah, no, I'm actually I got it. Got it back

1406
01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:09.600
for the moment. Happy birthday Mary Wiseman. She played Sylvia

1407
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:13.479
Tilley and Star Trek Discovery, and she reprised a role

1408
01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:17.680
in the Star Trek Short Treks episode Runaway and the

1409
01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:22.720
Star Trek Starfleet Academy first season episode The Life of

1410
01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:27.199
the Star. So happy birthday to Mary. All right, now

1411
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:32.399
I'm passing the flaming birthday candle over to Paul.

1412
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:37.600
Thank you. V I hope you didn't get whiplash there.

1413
01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:40.880
That can be juggling various devices.

1414
01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:47.319
Uh yeah, painful and a crappy, crappy internet service too.

1415
01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:52.239
Yeah, we're gonna get to a hotspot dsler something.

1416
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:54.199
I don't know a right.

1417
01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:56.840
You live in the state near the nation's capital, so

1418
01:26:56.920 --> 01:27:01.960
no one, everything's so fucked up. Sorry, that just came out.

1419
01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:02.560
I don't know what.

1420
01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:10.359
All right, Sorry, let's get back to our family hour here.

1421
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:12.760
Hold on. First of all, we have all kinds of

1422
01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:14.159
other folks to say a lot too, And i'd like

1423
01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:19.439
to give big rousing birthday to actor Bruce McGill okay,

1424
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:23.159
who we acknowledge here for playing Praxton in Voyagers fifth

1425
01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:27.560
season episode Relativity. Born in San Antonio, Texas, he graduated

1426
01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:30.079
from UT and Austin with a Bachelor of Fine Arts

1427
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:34.840
degree and actor. And of course he's well known, very

1428
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:36.319
well known. Now, this is the guy who's done a

1429
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:38.800
lot of stuff. You've seen, He've been on the Insider,

1430
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:42.000
He's been my cousin Vinnie. That was a very popular picture,

1431
01:27:42.159 --> 01:27:46.239
A law abiding citizen. He's done a ton of stuff, right,

1432
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:49.119
I mean a ton of stuff. But he will love you.

1433
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:56.000
Bruce forever be known for his role as Daniel Simpson

1434
01:27:56.239 --> 01:28:00.479
Day AKAA d Day in the phenomenal movie Animal When

1435
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:02.520
I think about how old Animal House is now, it's

1436
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:06.119
thrightening to me, but I still love Dean Warmer. Daniel

1437
01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:10.520
Simpson Day has no great point at it. It's amazing,

1438
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:15.520
but amazing cat, what a what a career and an

1439
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:19.399
indelible role. It's pretty much everybody in Animal House. So

1440
01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:24.600
happy birthday, Bobbie Birdly to the legendary Ronnie Cox, actor, singer,

1441
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:29.640
songwriter who played Captain Edward Jellico in the next season

1442
01:28:29.720 --> 01:28:31.800
six season episode Chain of Command, Part one, Part two.

1443
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:34.920
We were just talking about that recently and now Ronnie

1444
01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:38.880
Cox is his own answer figure. Phenomenal. He also returned

1445
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:42.720
to voice the Jellico character on Starterrek Prodigy to show

1446
01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:45.359
that all Treks fans should watch. If you haven't already,

1447
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:50.239
I say, shame upon your shame, because it's amazing stuff. Also,

1448
01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:55.319
he was played a very cantankerous Chief Boga Mill in

1449
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:59.399
Beverly Hills Cop franchise, but I like to think of

1450
01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:04.760
him as he's just insidious bastard, corporate business evil personified

1451
01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:09.920
Dick Jones in the original robook. He's great a man.

1452
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:13.840
Did he ever have a well deserved ending to that

1453
01:29:14.039 --> 01:29:17.800
character in that movie? It was just great Dick Jones amazing.

1454
01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:19.920
So Ronnie Cox is great. And if you want another

1455
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:23.680
side of Ronnie Cox, you may never seen. For God Almighty,

1456
01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:25.439
if you've never seen this movie, check out the classic

1457
01:29:26.399 --> 01:29:31.640
John Borman film Deliverance from the seventies. It's an amazing

1458
01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:35.840
motion picture and gets remembered for a piece of music

1459
01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:37.880
in one really strange scene. But it's an amazing motion

1460
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:39.760
picture and you should if you have not seen it

1461
01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:43.039
and you're a movie fan, rectify that and check it

1462
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:45.920
off your list and see Deliverance. It's right up there

1463
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:50.119
with the French Connection and other classic seventies pictures as well.

1464
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:54.439
And wow, Ronnie Cox really shines in that picture. Happy

1465
01:29:54.479 --> 01:29:58.720
Birthday to the wonderful Michelle Rodriguez. I love you. I

1466
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:02.720
feel she portrayed a kilgore Barbarian in The Thief, in

1467
01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:08.640
the Dungeons and Dragons Honor among Themes movies, Elena Santos

1468
01:30:08.720 --> 01:30:13.680
in Battle Los Angeles, Trudy check Alone in Avatar and

1469
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:18.439
really for James Cameron and flying those crazy chopper machines

1470
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.920
around there also in the Fast and Furious franchise, and

1471
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.239
I like to remember her work in the television show

1472
01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:26.920
Lost as well. She had a really cool arc and

1473
01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:29.159
played a very cool character as well. So she's done

1474
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:32.600
a lot of good stuff, always entertaining, always brings it.

1475
01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:38.520
Michelle emrod As she's excellently known amazingly cool actors, so

1476
01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:42.600
we love you. Another cool performer, of course, is the

1477
01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:48.039
amazing lovely Summer Glout Okay, absolutely wonderful dancer and actress

1478
01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:51.960
who we acknowledge for her phenomenal work as River Tam

1479
01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:58.199
in the iconic cult science fiction series Firefly and very

1480
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:01.079
prominently in the follow up movie Surrounder. Okay, where she'd

1481
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:04.520
just do is phenomenal. What a kick ass role, and

1482
01:31:05.399 --> 01:31:07.279
I'm pretty sure we're going to be hearing more of

1483
01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:12.319
a Summer cloud because they're repositioning more Fireflies like a

1484
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:14.840
prequel radio series. Now it sounds like so I'm sure

1485
01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:16.720
she's going to be involved. She was definitely one of

1486
01:31:16.760 --> 01:31:19.199
the folks that got her door knocked on, and those

1487
01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:23.039
viral clips there as they guarded interest in that. So

1488
01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:25.840
looking forward to hearing more of River Tam as a

1489
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:28.840
character again soon. And let's not forget if you've never

1490
01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:33.880
seen this TV series, she was the she was the

1491
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:35.680
chief well, I don't even I don't want to spoil

1492
01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:37.159
if you've never seen it, but just check out her

1493
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:39.760
work in the Sarah Connor Chronicles, which is part of

1494
01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:42.760
the Terminator universe. It was actually a Terminator TV series

1495
01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:45.479
and if people forget it, but it was awesome and

1496
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:49.119
her character is really interesting. I'll just put it that way.

1497
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:52.159
If you've not seen it, you should. It's absolutely wonderful.

1498
01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:56.720
And let's give it up to the original iconic, never

1499
01:31:56.800 --> 01:32:00.000
to be forgotten, never to be replaced, wonder Woman Linda

1500
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:05.920
Carter actress, singer, a former beauty contest pageant contestant. She

1501
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:09.199
played wonder Woman on the television series from nineteen seventy

1502
01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:12.720
five to nineteen seventy nine, and she was on many

1503
01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:15.319
a bedroom wall right up there with Farah Fawcett for

1504
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:19.159
a long time iconic. She was crowned Miss World back

1505
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:21.960
in nineteen seventy two. And I don't really think I

1506
01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:25.359
need to mention any of her other pageant work because

1507
01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:27.720
I'm not sure about that whole line of work anyway.

1508
01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:31.600
But as a wonder woman, she is a forever icon

1509
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:36.279
and just absolutely wonderful work, really, really tremendous, did a

1510
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:40.439
ton of cool things. Was in the Supergirl series as

1511
01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:44.159
well Smallville. I don't mention Dukes of Hazzard because it's

1512
01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:47.840
an aberration on the face of culture, so we just won't.

1513
01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:48.319
Even talk about that.

1514
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:50.840
But Linda Carter, we love you, So there you go.

1515
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:54.279
You get a pass for being in that Sweetheart all right?

1516
01:32:55.079 --> 01:32:57.479
Another icon? Can you handle it? Can you handle one more?

1517
01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:00.359
I think you can, because this guy a lot to

1518
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:05.479
say about, Okay, the Mighty Harrison Ford. He is a

1519
01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:11.199
cinema icon. He has received Academy Award nominations, British BAFTA,

1520
01:33:11.319 --> 01:33:15.039
Academy Awards, Emmy Awards, five Golden Globes, two Screen Actors

1521
01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:18.359
Guild Awards, recipient of the a FI American Film Institute

1522
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.479
Life Achievement Award, the Damill Award and honor a Sesar

1523
01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:25.359
sag After Life Achievement Award. Absolutely amazing. We're playing, of

1524
01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:29.720
course in the iconic shoot First, Ask Questions later, Hans

1525
01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:35.880
Solo in the Star Wars franchise. He is Indiana Jones incarnate.

1526
01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:40.479
He is Indiana Jones right, and Rick Deckard of course

1527
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:43.920
in Blade Runner. So what a what a legacy this

1528
01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:46.720
guy leaves behind. I mean, release Bind. He's still working

1529
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:49.039
like a madman. He's still on that Apple TV series.

1530
01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:51.640
He's working all the time. Harrison Ford is a treasure.

1531
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:54.399
He's amazing. And I'm not going to get into it,

1532
01:33:54.560 --> 01:34:00.520
but if you have not seen the class except speech

1533
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:04.520
he made at a popular university this year where he

1534
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:08.520
talks about maybe he's like a commencement speaker at this

1535
01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:14.159
university address, go watch his speech. It will break your heart.

1536
01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:18.640
It is unbelievable. I mean, what a man. If you

1537
01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:20.560
could leave a speech like that in your tombstone, you

1538
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:25.359
did good work. But I would rank that commencement speech

1539
01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:28.119
he made up there with any of his other work

1540
01:34:28.159 --> 01:34:30.920
that he's done. He's just amazing. And I always forget

1541
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.479
to mention this, but the great Peter Ware film Witness,

1542
01:34:34.079 --> 01:34:36.439
where he has to bear a cop who's doing undercover

1543
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:38.960
in the Amish community, is one of the greatest pictures

1544
01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:42.800
of the eighties. Is amazing. People often forget to talk

1545
01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:44.560
about that when they talk about Harrison Ford. But it

1546
01:34:44.680 --> 01:34:48.159
is a spectacular picture and if you've never seen it, wow,

1547
01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:50.920
do I envy you? It's wonderful. But Harrison Ford, we

1548
01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:54.319
love you. Also heroic pilot in real life as well,

1549
01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:56.159
who's done some really cool things and helped a lot

1550
01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:57.960
of people out. So he's a really good dude. And

1551
01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:02.359
long life you've Sarah Man. We'd love to spend some

1552
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:05.840
time talking to you. You're a great dude. Hey, Because

1553
01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:07.760
we don't have enough icons on the show that we're

1554
01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:11.680
talking about, want more, just squeezes out here if I

1555
01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:16.399
can order the British Empire recipient and general all around

1556
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:22.279
icon of all capital I the great Patrick Stewart Okay,

1557
01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:27.079
Emmy Award, Golden Globe nominated classically trained Shakespearean actor who

1558
01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:30.039
played so many different roles. We don't have that kind

1559
01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:33.079
of time, which is so But of course who we

1560
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:37.359
acknowledged for his legendary performances, Captain Sean Luke Piccard. We

1561
01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:40.680
played for seven seasons on Star Trek the Next Generation

1562
01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:44.880
and all of its many feature film spinoffs, and then

1563
01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:49.279
this redone series Star Trek Picard, where we got to

1564
01:35:49.319 --> 01:35:52.800
see even more of the great John Luke there but

1565
01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:56.279
he shows up in all kinds of pictures and go

1566
01:35:56.479 --> 01:35:59.600
check him out. And the television adaptation of I Claudius

1567
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:03.279
to see a very young right out of the Royal

1568
01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:08.079
Shakespeare Company Patrick Stewart, amazing. If you are a fan

1569
01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:10.520
of the Odyssey, as everyone seems to be lately, you

1570
01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:14.520
should check out I Claudius. Amazing work. And he was

1571
01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:18.680
in Excalibur, another great John Borman picture that you should

1572
01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:22.520
check out. And he was the original Gurnie Halleck in

1573
01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:25.279
David Lynch's Doune as well. So this is a guy

1574
01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:29.079
who's done a lot of tremendous work, really amazing. I

1575
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:33.079
think one of his greatest gifts is he's helped bring

1576
01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:36.880
folks who normally wouldn't give a hoot about Shakespeare and

1577
01:36:37.039 --> 01:36:40.399
introduce them to the language because he made sure Shakespeare

1578
01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:43.640
was always a part of John luccard character, both in

1579
01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:46.159
terms of his delivery and some of his references where

1580
01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:50.039
he would actually depict scenes from famous Shakespeare plays on

1581
01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:54.399
the show, which is great, so a legendary and let's

1582
01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:57.960
not forget Professor X Charles Xavier and the X Men pictures.

1583
01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:00.560
We do not want to forget that. And I believe,

1584
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:04.720
if my whisperers are giving me correct information, we'll be

1585
01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:10.399
seeing uh Patrick Stewart again in Avengers Doomsday this December.

1586
01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:14.600
I'm pretty sure he's retired from acting formally now, but

1587
01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:16.359
you never know what can lure a guy like this

1588
01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:20.279
back a wonderful human being, though the lift of those

1589
01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:23.319
folks is getting shorter all the time. So Patrick Stewart, sir,

1590
01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:29.800
we salute you long life, and thank you for favoring

1591
01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:33.119
us with your work and keeping the bard alive, passing

1592
01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:38.279
it over to legendary luminary back from the brink stronger

1593
01:37:38.359 --> 01:37:42.159
than ever. We can rebuild him, we can make him

1594
01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:43.319
better than he was before.

1595
01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:51.399
Uncle Jeff, I just want to apologize real quick. The

1596
01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:54.319
list our birthday list was a little bit long because

1597
01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:56.640
we haven't had one in two weeks, and there were

1598
01:37:56.720 --> 01:37:59.560
so many great names on this list. I just didn't

1599
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:03.199
want to cut them out. So I apologize if our

1600
01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:06.119
list was a little bit longer than usual, but some

1601
01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:08.520
of these actors are just too great to ignore. So

1602
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:11.880
but don't worry, We're just about done. I want to

1603
01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:15.399
say Happy birthday to Chris Sarandon. He's the Academy Award

1604
01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:19.359
nominated actor and voice actor who played Martis Mazour and

1605
01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:23.399
Deep Space nine second season episode Rivals. He's best known

1606
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:26.760
as the speaking voice of Jack Skellington and Tim Burton's

1607
01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:31.640
A Nightmare Before Christmas and the vampire Jerry Dandris in

1608
01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:34.279
Fright Night, which is a great movie if you haven't

1609
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:38.840
seen it. He was also in The Princess Bride. So

1610
01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:44.880
Happy birthday to Chris Sirrandon. Next on my list, The Incredible,

1611
01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:51.359
the Awesome, the Ageless. Will Wheetn He's an actor and

1612
01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:54.880
writer best known as Wesley Crusher on the first through

1613
01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:58.840
fourth seasons of TNG. Although he left the show following

1614
01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:02.079
the episode final mission, he returned as a guest star

1615
01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:05.920
twice in the fifth season and twice in the seventh season.

1616
01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:09.039
He also appears briefly at the beginning of Star Trek

1617
01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:12.920
Nemesis during Riker and Diana Troy's wedding. He had a

1618
01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:16.399
surprise cameo appearance during the season two finale of Star

1619
01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:20.960
Trek to Card the Farewell. Was a main cast member

1620
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:24.399
in season two of Star Trek Prodigy, which is awesome.

1621
01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:26.880
If you guys missed that, what are you waiting for?

1622
01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:30.199
Run don't walk and watch it. And he also voiced

1623
01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:33.840
the character in the Star Trek Lower Decks episode Old Friends,

1624
01:39:34.279 --> 01:39:37.680
New Planets and I Gotta tell you will We and

1625
01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:42.039
is awesome. He's a great guy and we're lucky to

1626
01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:46.439
have him. So happy Birthday two? Will we in? Okay?

1627
01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:51.840
Next we have Carl strike in That's right. Dutch actor,

1628
01:39:51.920 --> 01:39:53.960
he is known for playing the role of Mister Home

1629
01:39:54.039 --> 01:39:57.520
and Star Trek, The Next Generation and The Household Butler Lurch,

1630
01:39:57.640 --> 01:40:01.279
and The Adams Family and The Adams Family Values films.

1631
01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:03.880
He also appeared in the film's Men in Black and

1632
01:40:04.079 --> 01:40:07.800
Doctor Sleep, and played Terek in the nineteen eighty five

1633
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:13.840
TV film Ewoks The Battle for End Or Now, if

1634
01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:17.000
you go back to that picture of Carl Striking that

1635
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:21.960
we just had up there on the screen where that one,

1636
01:40:22.359 --> 01:40:25.000
if you look at the bottom right hand corner of that,

1637
01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:29.079
you might notice there's Carl striking and there's a really

1638
01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:33.960
handsome dude flashing to live long and prosper and a

1639
01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:38.000
really good looking bride. That is Karen and myself at

1640
01:40:38.079 --> 01:40:42.800
our wedding way way way way way back in nineteen

1641
01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:46.560
ninety three. And that's Carl Striking at our wedding. What

1642
01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:52.399
a great guy. He's awesome. And happy birthday to Carl's

1643
01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:57.520
Striking and I have one more birthday. This is illuminary

1644
01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:01.119
that I could not leave off the lift. If you

1645
01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:04.800
grew up in the eighties, he was the man. He

1646
01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:08.600
coined the phrases Asta, la vista, baby, and odovi bach.

1647
01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:13.239
Of course, we're talking about the one the only. Arnold

1648
01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:19.079
Schwartzenneger Austrian and American actor, business and film producer, politician,

1649
01:41:19.159 --> 01:41:23.439
and former professional bodybuilder who served as the thirty eighth

1650
01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:27.199
Governor of California from two thousand and three to twenty

1651
01:41:27.359 --> 01:41:32.720
eleven after retiring from bodybuilding game worldwide fame in the eighties.

1652
01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:37.119
Is a Hollywood actor. His breakthrough came with his starring

1653
01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:40.239
role in Conan the Barbarian, which was followed by the

1654
01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:45.159
sequel Conan the Destroyer. He subsequently starred as the Terminator

1655
01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:48.279
in the film The Terminator and reprised the role in

1656
01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:53.000
four sequels. His other appearances include the film's Commando, The

1657
01:41:53.159 --> 01:41:59.439
Running Man, Predator, pil Recall, True Lies, and the comedies Twins, Kindertarten,

1658
01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:03.359
Top and Jingle all the Way. What can I say

1659
01:42:03.359 --> 01:42:07.479
about Arnold Schwarzenegger. If you grew up in the eighties,

1660
01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:12.319
you grew up with Arnold Schwarzeneger. He is just He's

1661
01:42:12.359 --> 01:42:16.119
an icon of the eighties. I can't say enough about him.

1662
01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:23.239
Happy Birthday to Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Terminator himself. And each

1663
01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:26.479
week I'll pick a birthday movie, a movie that's celebrating

1664
01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:33.039
a birthday. This one is a little bit old because,

1665
01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:36.000
as I said, I had a heart attack, So yeah, whatever,

1666
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:39.600
But David roll the tape.

1667
01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:48.119
In New York nineteen ninety seven, the entire city is

1668
01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:53.399
a warm, maximum security prison. The bridge is a mind,

1669
01:42:57.279 --> 01:43:02.760
the rivers are petrothed, and the United States Police Force

1670
01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:04.520
has everything under control.

1671
01:43:05.159 --> 01:43:05.960
They think.

1672
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:13.439
I'm going In.

1673
01:43:16.079 --> 01:43:20.079
John Carpenter's Escape from New York The High Adventure of

1674
01:43:20.159 --> 01:43:24.159
the Future. One man must go in where no man

1675
01:43:24.279 --> 01:43:32.359
has ever gotten out, and if he comes back alone,

1676
01:43:36.239 --> 01:43:38.760
his nightmare has just begun.

1677
01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:39.359
Who are you?

1678
01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:42.359
John Carpenter's Escape.

1679
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:42.800
From New York.

1680
01:43:43.880 --> 01:43:44.640
There you were dead?

1681
01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:57.359
John Carpenter's Escape from New York, the greatest Escape of

1682
01:43:57.439 --> 01:44:05.399
the Wall is about to blow the future of Now,

1683
01:44:05.800 --> 01:44:08.479
if you have not seen that movie, what are you

1684
01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:12.039
waiting for? We're a little bit late because that we

1685
01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:15.439
did a Kurt Russell. You guys remember the Kurt Russell

1686
01:44:15.479 --> 01:44:17.680
show that we did a couple of weeks ago, and

1687
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:20.960
so this would have been the next show after that.

1688
01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:24.359
So I thought this was a fitting choice. I had

1689
01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:26.600
heart attack. It didn't happen, but I wanted to honor

1690
01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:32.479
this movie. Escape From It's it is awesome. It is

1691
01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:37.119
Escape from New York was released forty five years ago

1692
01:44:37.880 --> 01:44:42.159
on July tenth, nineteen eighty one. It was directed by

1693
01:44:42.319 --> 01:44:45.640
John Carpenter and of course starred the awesome Kurt Russell,

1694
01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:51.199
Lee Van ernest borgnin Donald Pleasant, Isaac Hayes, Adrian Barbo,

1695
01:44:51.439 --> 01:44:55.680
Tom Atkins, Frank Doubleday, Ox Baker, and Harry Dean Stanton.

1696
01:44:55.800 --> 01:44:59.720
Oh my god, that list is just full of iconic names.

1697
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:03.800
It is set in the future of nineteen ninety seven,

1698
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:07.880
which back then seemed like a long time in the future.

1699
01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:12.800
Carmen in dystopian United States, which has converted Manhattan Island

1700
01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:17.479
in New York City into the Country's Soul maximum security prison.

1701
01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:22.439
When you check in, you don't check out. Happy Birthday

1702
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:26.600
to escape from New York. Please. If you haven't seen

1703
01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:31.479
this movie, you are missing out. It is spectacular. Okay.

1704
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.319
That wraps up our birthdays for this for this week.

1705
01:45:35.760 --> 01:45:38.159
I know there was a lot. I apologize. I'm going

1706
01:45:38.239 --> 01:45:40.920
to cut that down quite a bit from now on

1707
01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:43.439
and hopefully I won't have another heart attack and I

1708
01:45:43.479 --> 01:45:47.520
won't have to fall back. So that's our birthdays. Now.

1709
01:45:47.600 --> 01:46:14.920
We do some Star Trek News, all right, Star Trek News.

1710
01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:19.560
We always start off, if possible, with a segment that

1711
01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:24.039
Eric usually does for us, but Eric is not here

1712
01:46:24.199 --> 01:46:28.439
with us today, so we are going to pass it

1713
01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:33.479
over to the So the you want to start off

1714
01:46:33.640 --> 01:46:37.119
with with our first segment here.

1715
01:46:37.119 --> 01:46:41.600
Yes, Shatner says, I've been wanting to say that for

1716
01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:45.720
a while anyway. Shatner William Chatner wrote a Guns and

1717
01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:52.960
Roses inspired song TV Icon. William Shatner's other creative outlet

1718
01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:58.399
is music. Who knew He is releasing a metal album

1719
01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:05.159
called Gathering of Forces, and he revealed his inspirations. There

1720
01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:08.000
is one song that is titled with a direct reference

1721
01:47:08.079 --> 01:47:11.520
to a Guns and Roses song. The hard rock band

1722
01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:16.279
released Patience in nineteen eighty nine with the album Guns

1723
01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:20.680
N' Roses Lies. The song opens with a beautiful guitar

1724
01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:24.800
and whistling. The lyrics talk about missing a woman and

1725
01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:30.319
needing patience to see her again, said woman, Take it

1726
01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:33.840
slow and things will be just fine. You and I'll

1727
01:47:34.079 --> 01:47:38.199
just use a little patience, said sugar. Take the time

1728
01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:42.239
because the lights are shining bright. You and I got

1729
01:47:42.359 --> 01:47:47.800
what it takes to make it. Sorry anyway, it was

1730
01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:51.840
the eighties, what can I say? The hopeful song sparked

1731
01:47:51.960 --> 01:47:56.800
inspiration for Shatner. There's a popular Gums and Roses song

1732
01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:59.600
called Patience, said the actor, So we wrote a song

1733
01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:04.119
called Impatience. He learned something new about what's possible with

1734
01:48:04.279 --> 01:48:08.239
the metal genre, and it's like, I'm not waiting around

1735
01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:13.119
for anybody. I'm not waiting around, he continued. I found out.

1736
01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:16.439
I found out that heavy metal does have guitar solos

1737
01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:21.640
in it. I didn't know. I thought heavy metal was

1738
01:48:23.039 --> 01:48:27.279
bing bang, crash boom, and it isn't only that. So

1739
01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:32.680
I'm learning. The Emmy winner started his recording career How

1740
01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:36.439
could We Forget in nineteen sixty eight and cover the Beatles,

1741
01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:39.880
Bob Dylan Elton, John Pink Boyd, David Bowie and Queen.

1742
01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:46.920
He released his new work in February with Cleopatra. I

1743
01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:51.319
spent a lifetime exploring in both reality and fiction. Now

1744
01:48:51.399 --> 01:48:54.720
I am stepping out into the unknown once again with

1745
01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:59.560
my new project in Heavy Metals. I am covering Black Sabbath,

1746
01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:03.920
Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden, as well as a number

1747
01:49:04.079 --> 01:49:07.960
of new songs written by my team. The whole project

1748
01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:11.720
is destined for this year. I hope you will join

1749
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:17.119
me in the exploration. Tet revealed the singer who inspires

1750
01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:21.520
him most. Freddie had such a superb voice. He said,

1751
01:49:22.159 --> 01:49:24.600
if you're asking me who my favorite singer, I'd say

1752
01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:30.000
Freddie Mercury was my favorite band. Queen, which David knows

1753
01:49:30.039 --> 01:49:37.479
something about right favorite song Bohemian Rhapsody, Mine too, William

1754
01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:41.159
Impatience isn't the first time the actor wrote a song.

1755
01:49:41.239 --> 01:49:44.640
He wrote something. Oh, he wrote something for his funeral.

1756
01:49:45.439 --> 01:49:48.720
Oh My, I would play a song we wrote called

1757
01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:52.000
I Want to Be a Tree. He said, I had

1758
01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:54.720
read an article about planting a tree on your body

1759
01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:57.680
when you die, and I thought that's the way I

1760
01:49:57.840 --> 01:50:02.479
want to go. I've made arrangements that I will be cremated,

1761
01:50:02.680 --> 01:50:06.159
my ashes buried in the ground and a tree planted

1762
01:50:06.359 --> 01:50:10.760
on top. I guess one way to uh branch out

1763
01:50:11.079 --> 01:50:15.520
in the world. Sorry, uh, the Canadian actor already has

1764
01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:18.600
a kind of tree picked out. I originally wanted a

1765
01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:21.560
sequoia placed over my body, but they said it wouldn't grow,

1766
01:50:22.159 --> 01:50:25.439
So I'm going to be a giant redwood. The really

1767
01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:30.079
state of the gathering of forces and further details haven't

1768
01:50:30.279 --> 01:50:34.319
been revealed. All right, that's about as shatner as you

1769
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:38.479
can get, right, Okay, onto the next.

1770
01:50:41.840 --> 01:50:48.680
M all right, the you're branched out? There was better

1771
01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:51.000
than well written in that entire article.

1772
01:50:51.039 --> 01:50:59.239
I was trying it was. I don't know that.

1773
01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:02.840
You gotta Bernard Shadder says, what that's nic.

1774
01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:05.199
Who wrote that?

1775
01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:05.520
Oh?

1776
01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:07.680
I know, Ai, Yeah, that's who wrote it. Now, so

1777
01:51:07.760 --> 01:51:10.560
let's move on. We got an obituary here to add

1778
01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:14.119
in the oil list here for future iterations of remembrances.

1779
01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:16.880
We're going to talk about Star Trek, Twilight Zone prom

1780
01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:20.319
Night actress Anchwinette Bauer, who just recently passed away at

1781
01:51:20.319 --> 01:51:23.079
age of ninety three. The German born British actress who

1782
01:51:23.159 --> 01:51:25.279
starred on an Adam and Evel like episode of the

1783
01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:30.479
Twilight Zone, and portrayed the seductive catlike alien Sylvia on

1784
01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:33.079
an installment of Star Trek. Has died at the age

1785
01:51:33.119 --> 01:51:36.119
of ninety three. On big screen, Bauer got top filling

1786
01:51:36.199 --> 01:51:40.000
in the Filipino shot horror film Super Beast nineteen seventy two,

1787
01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:43.039
played the wife of Leslie Nielsen and mother of Jamie

1788
01:51:43.159 --> 01:51:46.960
Lee Curtis in the slasher classic prom Night from nineteen

1789
01:51:47.079 --> 01:51:50.600
eighty and was kidnapped by Charles Bronson and the action

1790
01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:53.880
thriller The Evil That Men Do, which I'm pretty sure

1791
01:51:53.960 --> 01:51:57.399
is from an Alistair McClain novel, if I remember correctly.

1792
01:51:57.960 --> 01:52:00.960
On the Rod Serling Penn Twilight episode Probe seven, Over

1793
01:52:01.039 --> 01:52:03.840
and Out, which premiered during the anthology show's fifth and

1794
01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:08.720
final season, The Statuesque, Bauer portrayed Eve Norda, a woman

1795
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:12.239
stranded on a distant planet. The only other person around

1796
01:52:12.319 --> 01:52:17.479
is an astronaut named Adam Cook Richard Bashart Eve Adam,

1797
01:52:17.680 --> 01:52:21.279
I see where this is going. Bauer also as memorable

1798
01:52:21.279 --> 01:52:24.560
as the villain of Sylvia opposite Theo Marcus as Korrob

1799
01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:27.800
in the second season Star Trek episode Catspaw which premiered

1800
01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:30.279
in October of nineteen sixty seven and is a perennial

1801
01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:33.760
Halloween favorite. Antoinette Alexander Jane Bauer was born to a

1802
01:52:33.800 --> 01:52:36.520
German mother an English father in September thirtieth, nineteen thirty

1803
01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:39.399
two and bottom on Germany. Educated in England. She was

1804
01:52:39.439 --> 01:52:42.479
a field language supervisor and welfare counselor in the nineteen

1805
01:52:42.520 --> 01:52:46.239
forties with the United Nations International Refugee Organization, which assisted

1806
01:52:46.279 --> 01:52:48.760
millions of people left homeless across Europe and Asia following

1807
01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:52.039
World War II. She visited la in the early nineteen

1808
01:52:52.039 --> 01:52:54.800
sixties and decided to stick around after landing an uncredited

1809
01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:58.319
role in Marlon Brando's Mutiny on the Body nineteen sixty two,

1810
01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:01.520
and guests are parts on such shows as Adventures in Paradise,

1811
01:53:01.720 --> 01:53:05.640
Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Hong Kong, Wagon Train, Thriller, Hawaiian I,

1812
01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:09.680
and Perry Mason. She remained quite busy through the early eighties,

1813
01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:13.399
showing up on Combats, The Man from Uncle Burke's Law,

1814
01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:17.560
The Wild Wild West, I Spy, The Fugitive, The Invaders,

1815
01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:21.680
personal favorite, The Big Valley Bonanza, Mannix, Wwifi, I Have

1816
01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:24.680
O Get Smart, Hogan Zerroo's Mission Ipossible, the FBI Columbo CoA,

1817
01:53:24.760 --> 01:53:28.279
Jack and Murder, She wrote Wow, and in the nineteen

1818
01:53:28.319 --> 01:53:32.079
eighty three mini series The thorn Birds. She pretty much

1819
01:53:32.159 --> 01:53:35.600
left acting after her run on CTV's Neon Ryder Power

1820
01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:38.640
Weed Texas born pop star James Gill in nineteen sixty three,

1821
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:42.079
but their marriage ended in divorce. She was predeceased by

1822
01:53:42.119 --> 01:53:48.960
her half predeceased. I'm gonna have to are you pre Yeah,

1823
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:53.359
I gonna have to use that she was predeceased brother Roger. Now,

1824
01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:57.800
another way you might say that Ai is her half brother.

1825
01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.840
Roger died before she did. That's another way you can

1826
01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:04.840
say that if you were the soulless AI just tips

1827
01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:07.800
for the future as you learn to educate yourself even better.

1828
01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:12.439
A life celebration, which we humans call a celebration of life,

1829
01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:16.560
is scheduled for September twenty sixth in Pasadena, California. So

1830
01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:19.720
hats off to you, Antrenette Bower. You certainly did some

1831
01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:24.359
amazing stuff in your time, and your legacy lives on.

1832
01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:32.239
I'll pass this Mike back over to immortal immortal that

1833
01:54:32.359 --> 01:54:33.600
he is, Uncle Jim.

1834
01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:36.920
Yes, the stage that I am. Thank you so much Paul,

1835
01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:40.279
we have one final story here and there he is

1836
01:54:40.399 --> 01:54:44.560
on the screen. Star Trek actor confirms franchise return after

1837
01:54:44.640 --> 01:54:48.880
a seven year absince. Many characters have come and gone

1838
01:54:48.960 --> 01:54:52.359
in the Star Trek universe, but surprise returns have also

1839
01:54:52.479 --> 01:54:55.439
long been a big part of franchise. It turns out

1840
01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:59.000
that another return has been confirmed after a seven year absence,

1841
01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:02.439
or me should be seen when and where this will occur.

1842
01:55:03.359 --> 01:55:07.560
Actor James Frayne portrayed Sarah, the father of Ethan Peck Spock,

1843
01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:10.800
in the first two seasons of Star Trek Discovery. He

1844
01:55:10.880 --> 01:55:13.439
has not made an on screen appearance since the season

1845
01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:19.279
two finale, which debuted in twenty nineteen. Now, and a

1846
01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:22.920
new post shared on his Instagram on July eleventh, Frame

1847
01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:26.520
shared an image of himself in character as Sarah. The

1848
01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:29.920
actor confirmed that he's been on set for multiple projects,

1849
01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:33.920
one of which involves Sarah, but he didn't state which

1850
01:55:34.119 --> 01:55:38.720
series he was specifically involved with. The caption on the

1851
01:55:38.800 --> 01:55:42.319
post stated, haven't posted for a minute. Been doing a

1852
01:55:42.439 --> 01:55:45.520
few different things that I've been on set for, which

1853
01:55:45.640 --> 01:55:48.800
means I can't post any of the photos that I've

1854
01:55:48.840 --> 01:55:52.840
been taking yet because of secrecy and pr and all

1855
01:55:53.039 --> 01:55:57.560
that stuff, but one of them involves this guy seen

1856
01:55:57.680 --> 01:56:02.000
on our screen. Little hint, just tiny hint here. Star

1857
01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:04.640
Trek Discovery ended in twenty twenty five, so it seems

1858
01:56:04.880 --> 01:56:07.159
likely that this return is for an appearance in Star

1859
01:56:07.279 --> 01:56:11.000
Trek's Strange New World, which still has two seasons left

1860
01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:15.399
to go before concluding. It's also possible that he could

1861
01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:18.640
be appearing in the second and final season a Star

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01:56:18.760 --> 01:56:22.319
Trek Starfleet Academy. That would be likely as a hologram

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if that was the case. Either way, this announcement is

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surprising as both shows have already wrapped filming their final

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seasons and the sets have been torn down so that

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My Friends wraps up our show? What do you think

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was it?

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Was it?

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Okay? Did we do all right? Without Eric? Did I

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do okay? I'm a big return for my massive heart attack?

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I think so?

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Yeah, I think so.

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I Like I said, we are. I'm gonna try to

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shorten the show and condense it a little bit. We

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might only have one new story a week. I'm going

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to try to get the birthdays down a six or

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ten if possible, so we can spend as much time

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talking about the episodes with any at any rate. I

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am glad to be back. I'm so happy to talk

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to you guys about Star Trek and share that with

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all of our fans. So I'm your most excellent host,

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Uncle Jim, and I want to say thank you to

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Charles for hanging out and trek talking with us tonight.

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Thank you Charles, Thank you Jim.

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Always good to be here.

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And thank you to David not only for hanging out

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with us, but we get into all these awesome videos

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on the screen. Thank you David.

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Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Glad to be back.

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And thank you, of course for Paul Well for hanging

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out and Trek talking with us and filling those big

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shoes left by Eric. Thank you Paul.

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Great to have you back. Uncle Jim, glad you're well.

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Shameless movie plugs real quick. If you have not seen

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The Odyssey yet, my god, it is movie history. You've

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got to see it on the biggest screen, imaginable. It

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is absolutely phenomenally. You will not be sorry. And then

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this weekend I'm heading out to see my web slinging buddy,

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good old Spidy because we have a new Spider Man movie,

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Spider Man Brand New Day opened tomorrow, so super excited

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hearing great things. A grades on both those pictures, so

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phenomenal stuff. To go joy Nerds next week.

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To Paul if I'm up to it, if I if

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I'm up to it, and to make it without too

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much of a problem. I plan on going to see

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Spider Man myself. Hopefully it will all work out for me.

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01:58:30.640 --> 01:58:31.760
Yeah, I've heard good things.

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Thank you so much to the despite the technical difficulties

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that she had. I'm glad that you were able to

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join us.

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Thank you, d always glad to be here and especially

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glad to see you. And uh, I was kind of

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missing the constance five references, but that's okay. But we

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did get one in there though, Yeah we did, but

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I mean you you always you know, yeah.

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Didn't get one, so that we can't have a podcast

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without starter. I know, most folks excellent hosts. Uncle Jim

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saying to everybody please please stay safe and be good

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to each other, yelling.

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Frequencies are closed. Good night everyone, good night, We're two

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number one.

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You're the captain.

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Captain M ready for warm sir, kay m

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Hm m hmm