Episode 692- Star Trek Returns- SNW "Valles Marineris" discussion

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1:22 Well, good evening, trek E's and Trekkers around the Globe. It is Thursday, July thirtieth, twenty twenty six. Welcome to episode six hundred and ninety two Ofrek Talking and Beyond. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the show. I am so glad to be here for so many reasons, but the biggest reason is Star Trek is back and we are going to talk about Star Trek's strange new world tonight, so you definitely want to stay tuned. Let's see, it's been a while since we had a podcast, so I'm glad to be back. You guys can head over to Trek Talking and Beyond our Facebook page please give us a like, give us a follow, and become a subscriber if you'd like, you can help us support the podcast for a mere ninety nine cents a month. And what do you get from that ninety nine cents? You get to see this awesome video right here, which unless you're a subscriber, you're only listening to our voices. You're not seeing all of our rosy happy faces or any of the awesome videos that David there. I like David, who's the wholk any of these awesome videos. So please head over to our Facebook page and become a subscriber.

2:32 We would really really appreciate it. On tonight's show, we're going to talk about the strange New Worlds season four premiere episode Dallas Maren Airis, which is interesting. We're going to discuss it. We also have our Fans shout Out, so that's where we thank fans around the globe just like you for supporting us. We also have our Cadet review with Charles. We have our fan reactions, our fans scores and what sci fi actors do you share our birthday with find out on our Star Trek Slash sci Fi Birthdays and what's going on around the Star Trek universe, so we have some new stories to cover, but before we get too far, I'd like to go around and introduce my incredible truck spirts. We'll start off with David.

3:16 How you doing tonight, David? I'm doing pretty good. Whish I could get more sleep, but other than that, yeah, doing all right. Good good. We also have with us Paul the Toy Guy. How you doing, Paul? Hey, good to be here. Great to be able to talk about the return of a favorite series, right, very cool. I'm looking forward to it. Watched it four times myself already, but I have a lot of time on my hands right now, so I can do that. And we also have with us Charles. Charles is out in Vegas. How you doing tonight, Charles. I'm doing good. Just a couple of days in California. Just got back to the heat in Vegas again as refer second heat warning.

4:00 Wow. And we also have with us last but definitely not least, from Virginia. We have v with us. I am fine. I feel like punching a dinosaur, I know, you know, but so glad that yeah, so glad that you are here with us, because you know, don't do that again, please, but just so glad to I am. I am as glad as just so. I missed you guys and miss all of you being silly and I did too. It's good to be back. Unfortunately, Eric won't be with us tonight, so we're going to have to make a couple of scheduling changes. But the work guys, we will work our way through it and everything will be fine.

4:50 Before we go too fun, I think I want to let you guys know that recently I had a massive heart attack and I almost didn't make it. So I'm glad to be here, and I just want to let you guys know how important being here with all of you guys is. Being here with my treks firts talking about Star Trek for all of our fans really really kept me going with a bright spot for me, I couldn't wait to get out of the hospital, come home and watching the Star Trek episode, which I did so. I am so grateful to everybody who sent me all their prayers and all their wishes, all the fans that sent their wishes on our Facebook, on my Facebook page, I read each and every one of them, I quick like on each and every one of them, and I really appreciate it, so thank you, thank you so much to proving to me just why Star Trek is as awesome as it is. Star Trek fans always seem to come together at the hardest times and they're always there to support you when you need them. So thank you, Thank you so much to each and every one of you. Guys.

5:57 It really meant collecting me. All right. So this is the part of the show where we would do our fan shout outs. You can be mentioned in a fan shout out. But heading over to our Facebook page Truck Talking and beyond into the top of the pages to live long and prosper I just click on that tell of where you're from. Leave some emodis it gets my attention. If you see a heart next your name from your truly Uncle Jim, then you are going to be featured in a fan shout out. Now, normally we would start our fan shout outs with Eric Boss. Eric isn't here, so we are going to defer to Paul to get us started. So Paul take it away. Thanks Uncle Jim.

6:38 Great to have you back. Sarah Glad all is well, so let's get this ball rolling. Of course, there is no replacing Eric, of course, but you know, we'll do our best if we can at least make him flinch thousands of miles away, and he does not show why he is. Why do I feel this weird feeling someone embodying my segment. I don't know. I feel wrong. He's probably you know, twitching right now. But let's see what we can. His spider sense is vibrating for whatever reason. Let's say hello to a bunch of our fans across the globe. First of all, we're going to start out with our pal Rowan Dutois. I believe it's Dutois, or it could be Doty. You never know, so I thought Detoit was in Michigan. What do I know? Anyhow, Rowan Dutois is in Pinetown, South Africa, which is fantastic.

7:28 Great to hear from you, Rowan. I hope we're pronouncing your name correctly. If not, forgive us, because forgiveness is, of course an important thing to maintain. Moving over to the main continent of Germany of Europe, will go over to sol Engen, Germany where Silka Duque I believe it's Duque Duque. I think it's Silke Duquet. Is there in sol Engine, Germany. Wonderful to hear from you, Silka, and a place that is starting to get a little hot this time of year, a little bit uncomfortably hot, would be Italia, not as bad as things are in France and Spain. So you guys, keep your head down. Over there in realm, Silvia Verzari is saying hello to us.

8:09 So you got all different folks who watch Star Trek and all different types of Sma sacks. Star Trek has not just heard in English and heard in many different languages as well. And going over to more landing borders both to the equator, we're going to say hello to Ashley Simone from the country of Panama. Very important part of the world. They're athlete. Great to hear from you, and thanks for sharing your flag with us and above all else your enthusiasm for science fiction and Star Trek. I think we really needed the day and it's one of the few things that you can count on to bring people together. So let's go over to our crazy dinosaur Rasslin Shreksburg V. Do you have some folks you'd like to some haling frequencies.

9:00 Uh, first one, somebody that's in our neighbor to the north in canad Quebec, Canada with a Canadian flag. Hello and thank you to Lori Megwati, and so thank you for that. Next Joseph Chadwick from Arkansas. And then somebody in my neck of the woods just about an hour away from where I am, Ray Ray Tarvis in Virginia Beach, Virginia, giving us the old welcome hand salute, so thank you for that. And last but not least, Gigi Jabbara from Chicago. So thank you, and we're just a big hello to all of you. Now I'm going to send this whatever not I was gonna say, flaming birthday candle, but flaming a megaphone of welcome to Charles. I don't know you.

10:00 Thank you. V why they're a dinosaur? Why they're dinosaur bites on his megaphone. Okay, let's start with the warm welcome to Chris Landroach live and work in you send me National Park, California. Welcome Chris, my uncle used to work in the one of the forests. Back east. Welcome read Wall Read Marshall from Wichita Paul's Texas Welcome Read who gives us a Vulcan salute. Welcome Heather baby Baby from South Dakota, and welcome Kurt DaCosta from Nebraska.

10:43 Welcome pass over to Paul. Watch out for the bite mark in the megaphone, Paul. I will I'm gonna wear nitril gloves as I handle it, just to make sure everything's okay. So thank you, Charles. Yes, I'm back again because I just can't stop talking apparently. So let's say hello to Ali Mohammad from the storied realm of Cairo, Egypt. I'm little amazing. If you get a clear day and you squint, you can see the Pyramids from Ali Muhammad's house. I'm pretty sure proximity there in Cairo is pretty amazing. So a beautiful place to be sure when I would love to be able to visit my travels at some point, moving over to a place I will be venturing to pretty soon if the cards are dealt correctly. The beautiful city of Newcastle of on time in the northeast of England. There was that English flag there. Tracy Laidlow is saying hello to us, so wonderful. Keep things calm and don't let it get too hot please in England. In the next couple months, keep things in a you know, bring on autumn early would be my preference, Tracy, if you can any influencer you have. And then in Finland, which is not too far from where I believe expert Eric is hanging his out.

12:02 It's just maybe a short train right away in Churku, Finland is Mark who heard is saying hello with the flag clearly emblazoned there in their post. Hello Marco, I helpe. I'm pronouncing your name correctly, but amazing, I keep hearing Finland is like the high I'm pretty sure it's Finland, if I'm not mistaken. Is consistently gets like the highest happiness quotient of all countries. I would love to dive into finding out why that is, and if we could figure out a way to desperately get a transfusion of that here in this country, which is probably the most movable, and. You can find yourself. I won't go into why, but we need your help, Marco, no terms, So if you can leave us a message on the trektok and Facebook page, why is your country so happy? I'd love to know. And then we're going to I don't even know. This must be someplace deep in the delta quadrant.

12:55 That I'm not familiar with. Not knowing my console right now, so I can't look it up. But Joe Bedford sounds a very normal name, right, Joe Bedford sounds very earthy, right. Joe says he hails for the scornshells Zeta. I don't know where that is. I'll have to do some googling in my free time. Scornshellis zeta. It sounds like something that happens if you eat at a restaurant that doesn't have a good food handlers. I went home and I developed a bad case of Yeah, I ate the bag lettuce, and now I have scornshells zata g waz. So hopefully I'll persevere in the meantime.

13:36 You know where you'll find me. Right. Anyhow, let's pass this thing over to Uncle Jim. Uncle Jim, it's been a while. Do you still know how to do this? I'm going to give it my best shot here. I'm going to try. So we want to say hello and thank you to Ivory J. Carr Jones, who's listening to us in Washington State. Thank you, Ivory. We also want to send out a huge hello to Matthew who's in Pittsburgh and Silvania, David Hann who's listening to us in North Carolina, and last but not least on my list, we want to say hello to Dennis Gore who's listening to us in Buffalo, New York. They probably don't have any snow there yet, but don't worry. It's on its way all right. Guys. That wraps up on our fans shout outs.

14:24 Please head out to our Facebook page Truck Talking and Beyond and tell us where you are from, and you can be featured on a fan shout out. Not only that, there's me and Eric at Trek Conderoga up on the screen right now, there's me and my wife and my daughter at the X Files convention meeting Anna bet Giesh. You guys can have your pictures up here. All you gotta do is go to our Facebook page. I give us a like, give us a follow, be a subscriber, send us your pictures and David will get them right up there, so the whole world knows that you're a fan and can enjoy pictures as there's my wife, which your back up, uh, and then you can see all these wonderful pictures as well. So please think about doing that.

15:07 We would really appreciate it. All right, guys, let's see, we are going to start off with something we haven't done in a long time. This is It's been a very long time. But we're going to pass the microphone over to Charles and child is going to do some kind of debt training with us. Take it away, Charles, Thank you, Jim. Some people may be forgotten or not know what the debt training is. Here I talk about different episodes from the past sixty years of Star Trek and integrate two things that we saw in this past episode.

15:49 And run off the bed as a unique one is the fact that I'm going. To talk about Doctor Who. Because Pellia references visiting a own box. It's like, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a good Doctor Who reference. TNG all good things. We got a spatial anomally affecting the past. And the future, and some time travel. Of course. One of the great Star Trek movies Star Trek for the Voyage Home and then Toos did several good ones. Tomorrow is Yesterday, Sitting in the edge of Forever an assignment Earth and sitting on the edge of it forever is a good example of not changing the future, not changing the past, affecting the future.

16:49 And I went looking for a ridium. Well, in cos they've in toos they did some searching for ridium and with bread and circa. In Voyagers Tasika Say and Voyagers Critical Care and of course a good one. I think Paul would appreciate this one. We talked about volcanic planets, Toss Devil in the Dark that was a volcanic that was a volcanic soiled planet.

17:29 And with the insectoid. Creatures that we saw, I merely the one thing that came to mind was Enterprises Zindi. When we did get to see in the sectoid style one. There were a lot more stuff I could have picked up, but I was a little bit of rushed today and. There would have been a whole lot of references. I think I'm going to pass over to Paul so we can talk about this episode. Oh thanks, Choles, I appreciate that. All right, Well, there's a lot of things and I think we're going to do a quick recap, maybe not so quick. There's a lot of stuff happened in this episode. Friends, we last said hello to our pals on Strange New Worlds, back in September of twenty twenty five, so it's not quite a year that the show has been off the air, and so there's been a lot of anticipation, right, we know we got a couple of seasons coming.

18:27 People looking forward. To this and what's it going to be, like, where are we going to go? What do we have in store? And man, I just start off by saying, what a freaking treat to be able to have them come back with guns blazing, so to speak, with a phenomenally strong episode, I mean really really, really good and worth the way. And if this is in the indication of what's we have in store for this season, we're in for a really good time. The episode here is Season four, episode one, Donald's Okay, And that is an actual place. It is the largest canyon system in the Solar System, located on the planet Mars. Okay. It is over twenty five hundred miles long, twenty five hundred miles long pals with depths up to thirty three thousand feet, so ten times longer, five times deeper than our Grand Candy and you're on Earth.

19:16 It's an actual place. Pretty amazing to see that reference in the episode title and within this episode. So we start off with a horseback riding sequence. And I really liked this because they didn't waste a lot of time explaining what they were on submission to some planet that involved them having to be cowboys, right. And what I liked about it though, was pikes enthusiasm for it, because we know he keeps a saddle in his quarters, right, and so it's a loving reference to, you know, Pike's love of horses from the original Managering episode in the original series, when these guys are tired, they've been on six months of NonStop missions, they get a visit from Admiral April, and he's got a couple of things. First of all, he wants to dangle a promotion to consider in front of Pike, saying, hey, I think they'd likely to be commodore Chris and Kevin. Pike's not so sure about that, right. Meanwhile, they get sent out to yet another mission to observe an interstellar squall, which is basically a big electrical stellar storm, which Spock makes a point of saying, this is extremely dangerous to get close to.

20:17 Right. I won't mention one other aspect of this particular scene right now, and we'll move on, but I may revisit it later. Then briefly we get a look that Vura has a new mentee that she has to get along with, right, and she's been given this cadet from the academy, a Shah who is a Vulcan. They don't get along very well at all. This is nowhere near as delightful as the Vulcan characters we have on lower decks. No to Linen Art thou my Vulcan friend. She's very sarcastic and doesn't really try to get along at all, very imperious. So new incidental character introduced early on. They fly into this and they pick up a calm signal eyebrows raised and may day from inside the storm. How could this be?

21:06 It's a starship distress boy, and so they feel obligated they have to go in and check that out. But the storm continues to expand and they are flying very, very dangerously close to the aspects of the storm. This bock warmed them about, and it seems like in an abrupt flash, the ship winks out of existence, but it comes back and everything seems okay, except they've got life support and that's about it. They've got, you know, no phasers, they've got no transporters, they've got very little else. You know, they got a warp drive. All they basically do is they have life support and that's it. The Charles mentioned iridium. They have no iridium, right, which blew out during this whole effect that they got caught up in, so they can't really ignite the warp drive without it. But they do have enough censors to tell that there is iridium on a nearby planet. So Pike cass number one to take a shuttle down there with Ortegis and Laon and see what they can do to find out about it.

22:05 It's this very primordial planet, very prehistoric looking, right, and they detect some life signs, very large life signs that are between them and get into the iridium, right, and so there's some kind of a really big, partially hidden creature that's out there. A lawn tries to take a shot at it, right, but it doesn't really do much and seems to have no effect. Meanwhile, up on the Enterprise, the Enterprise is seized somehow by the electrical energies of some alien ship that is completely unidentified. Dudes do debts all of that is before the opening credits. It's a massive intro. Okay, a lot of stuff happened. All the plot elements are in play, the stakes are up there.

22:51 Way to kick things off with a lot to get excited about really quickly. So it's kudos to you. That's how you do it. Come back from the opening credits, Pike hails this mysterious ship and they respond that they are seizing the Enterprise as salvage during a time of war because the Enterprise parrently isn't working. So they just say, okay, Enterprise, we're just taking that. There they are, and they hear from a Commander Cassell played by actress Saffron Burroughs. And these folks have never heard of the Federation or Starfleet. They have no idea what any of this is all about. They are busy at war with the Iraqanid insects spiece. He's called the Doldrum, okay, and so Pike is very anxious to not have a shippy scrap, so he invites Commander Cassel to come on board the Enterprise, and in doing so, he mentions the Enterprise's of weapons and we start having the first of these conversations between like Spach and everyone else going, hey, we need to be really careful here. If this is a pre warped civilization, we don't want to show them too much. We don't want to mess around prime directive blah blah blah blah blah.

23:54 We don't want to tell them too much, right, because we could influence, you know, their development. So I have to be very careful what we share with them. But Pike's like, hey, all we can do is talk, so we have to take advantage of the one thing we can do. So it's gonna be precipitous. But they're going to invite them on board, right. Meanwhile, Spac has determined something that's a very important fact. They are actually in the Soul System, our solar system, and the problem is they are somehow sixty five million years in the past. Okay, this is crazy. And Commander Cassel comes on board, and while Una and her way team are down there realizing they're on Earth where they're encountering on Earth that is home to a Tyrannosaurus Rex. So everyone's got their things they're contending with, right, A lot of back and forth between these two plots. Commander Cassell's a boarding party just pops on board. They're facing through the hull. They don't need to transport, they have phasing technology, and I gotta say, okay before we go any further. This commandic Cassel Saffron Burrows probably one of the best guest star appearances we've had on Star Trek in freaking decades. I mean, she just kicks every kind of ass. She is a phenomenal performer.

25:04 I just think that she immediately right out of the gate, comes across a very intelligent, formidable captor. She's just phenomenal in this episode all over the place, and some of the conversations that she's gonna have with Pike are tremendous. Back on the planet, Ura comes, Una comes up with the planet to try to stun the t Rex. But everyone is really starting to be concerned now. They have this knowledge about where they when they are, but anything they do might change the future by their actions, both down on the planet if they shoot a t Rex and up on the ship if they reveal too much. So changing history is foremost on everyone's mind here as it goes on. At this point, Committicussel shows the crew a back view of their planet. What we talked about at the very beginning the ballast marinaras right, this massive crater that was caused, she says, by when the Doldrum crashed a ship on Mars and fed on their world at the cost of over two million lives. And Pike is really trying to evoke the Federation ethos this whole time, saying, hey, you know, you don't always have to resort to violence and weaponry, right, even though you've been at war, it could be that we might have a method that you can communicate with an insects piece. All right, we can help you do that with our abilities that you might not have, and it could have put an end to your war. And it sounds great, but then they're about to go down that road. But all of a sudden, then Cassel just takes matters into her home hand, and she takes the ship's primary antimatter fuels cell and she beats out of there with it, and she says, you know what, I'm looking over your computer when taking things over, we figured out that you didn't weren't really totally straight

26:36 with us. You're from the distant future, so we know now that in the future you come from Mars, where I'm from is going to be a vast wasteland, right, We've learned this from looking at your computers. So she feels she has no other choice but to take the antimattersel as a potential weapon to destroy the Doldrum and she leaves. Back down on the planet, Na finds a wreckage of ant the ship that is the source of the iridium they've been looking for. And this ship is actually in fact a crash Doldrum ship. It's got cryobds on it with the Doldrum insectoid species that are in there. Right, So Una grabs the iridium fuel pod that they need. Laan impulsively punches out a threatening dinosaur, not a t rex, but a smaller one, and you may be going, what's that all about? It seems kind of odd, and it seems odd to go on as well. So a reflexive moment, but one that I'm sure will be getting a lot more attention regarding later on. Anyhow, they've got that fuel pod, they race back up the enterprise. Leon Leanne Louis law On starts realizing that, you know, she punched this dinosaur in the face and broke her hand, but she feels no pain and she's starting to ask herself, is my recessive augmented warrior DNA resurfacing somehow? Whenever somebody asked a question like that on the television show, the answer istty much always going to be ah, yeah, I think so.

28:02 So that could be pointing around where we're going for future episodes. In this season, we find out Commander cassel antimatter pod in tow is heading for the fifth planet of the system, populated by billions of this arachnoid species. Yep, it's the Doldrum home world. Commander Cassel also, if she launches this antimatter weapon at their home world, it's going to create a huge blast wave and she's not going to be able to escape it. They'll have to sacrifice themselves to eradicate the Doldrum. And at the last minute, they're thinking, okay, Enterprise, maybe we can shoot something down there to like disable the antimatter weapon or disable their ships so they don't shoot at the planet, just do something, and at the very last second, Pike says, wait a minute, do not fire, despite the fact that Cassell's antimatter torpedo will annihilate the Doldrum planet and potentially wipe out everyone's future.

28:55 It could destroy all of our futures, right because in our future, he says, there is no fifth planet, so he says, do not fire. The planet is obliterated completely, as is our new friend Commander Cassell's ship, by this huge blastwave. But rather than turn away from that blastwave, Spock says, we need to head into it. Okay, we need to head directly into it, because we can use that energy to free the Enterprise and help snap ourselves back from the quantum entanglement we're in, back to their own time. That was very clever, very well done. That was very smart. And as the Enterprise disappears in this giant energy wave, we see a huge fragment of the Doldrum homeworld is tumbling down towards Earth, and we later discover that it is actually the asteroid that hit Earth and led to the extinction of the dinosaurs, and that the rest of the planet, Therey debris, became asteroid. It also caused a big anomaly in the Solar System to cause Mars to move further from the Sun, becoming the bleak wasteland that we know today, and a lot of mind blowing discussion ensues. Right, we only exist because of what we didn't do, and realizing that some things seemed to be kind of in a causality loop. Might if you really think about it, your head hurts. Right, the Martians had to take our weapons, and that we had to let them destroy the Golden Planet because they always have and we were always there. I mean, it's these time travel things makes it crazy, right, And in effect,

30:26 with her good intentions, Commander Cassel ended up destroying her own planet. This is messing up with Pike a lot, who thinks about Constant Future quite a bit. He has a nice conversation with doctor Mabenga at the end. It really felt like the old Christopher Pike from the original series, right, and he mentions that he ran Cassel's DNA through their database and that it's present, present, and innumerable species throughout the galaxy, so somehow some Martians must have escaped. But Pike really laments the fact that he played a hunch in this whole thing, right, and he didn't know at the moment that he made that he made the right call. Right, And Benga says, you need to figure out a way to make peace with all of this. Right. That scene ends the amazing shot of Pike's reflection in the mirror like surface at the table that he's sitting in.

31:12 This really seems to be like he's kind of confronting the potential dark future of himself. Amazing shot, really, really well done. He gets another visit from April. At the end. He pulls out a copy of Edgar Heist Burrow's Princess of Mars off his bookshelf there, right, and April reminds he hey, this all has to be a secret, right, and people can't know that the Enterprise was responsible for humanity's origin, right, And Pike points out, Hey, you know we answered our own may Day from some space boy we destroyed sixty five million years ago that we deployed sixty five million years ago. And I can't give this kind of thing up, as Pike says, he goes, so he turns down the promotion. He lastingly gives everyone a night off unwined, he promotes why he doesn't accept his own promotion, A promotion to Una to commander rank, which is nice from her work down on the planet. Uhua tries again to chat out her mentee doesn't go well, and then we kind of end with the big dynamic shot hearkening back to Una and everyone staring down at life on prehistoric Earth. So that is our episode. Happy to chat more about it and provide some other thoughts later on, but I fuck enough. I think I'm going to hand this back to Uncle Jim to go around and see what we can gather as far as other trexperts, thoughts and opinions.

32:35 But absolutely, thank you so much. Paul. You're going to be doing some more talking very shortly because Eric isn't here, so you're kind of filling in for Eric. So get a drink, take a deep breath, because they're going to be talking some more. Usually I like to split this up on the show, but Eric's not here, so Paul's got some pretty big moccasins to fill. But I'm sure he'll do just fine. So if you guys head over to our Facebook page every Friday, I usually around eleven o'clock because that's when I used to have my copy break when I was working. I'll post on our Facebook page and I'll ask you guys to score this week's episode on a scale of one to ten, with ten being the best, and kind of explain the reason why you gave the score that you did, and then I collect those and then we discussed them on the podcast like we're about to do, and we come up with an overall fan rating for the episode. Then the truck spirts will discuss the episode and we'll come up with a fan rating and see how close we are to you guys are fans. So head over to our Facebook page and take place in that. I'm going to call it a poll, although technically it's not a poll. It's more like a question. So David roll the tape please, Okay,

34:08 interesting you know me like no win what you thought about the show when we try. To share your opinions with all of our minions out there because they listen worldwide, So tell us just. What you think. Get together we will alter Canar and robulin Al. All right. So Eric may not be with us in spirit, but he's with us in voice. He you know, came up with that wonderful theme song. And if you guys, by the way, our patrons, if you come over to our Facebook page and subscribe, you can watch that awesome video.

34:59 So not technically a pall, but a question. And we're going to turn the microphone back over to Paul, and Paul was going to tell us what you guys on our Facebook page had to think about this episode and what you guys scored it on a scale of one to ten. So Paul, you get the mic back again, buddy. All right, holme slice, thank you actual quotes and ratings from you are a fan, so let's get started. Donald Britton says I rate it at ten out of ten. This is a thinking person's kind of science fiction that I. Grew up with. Stephen Cheskowitz says it was a well written original series episode is what it felt like with a large budget time travel like Trek has never done before. Henry Monk says ten out of ten. Only the Start Trek franchise can continuously introduce time travel episodes and make it exciting, very cool. Sarah Louise says, my partner and I were making so many references while watching it.

35:55 We liked it lots. I'll say nine. I did say it's a princess of man and then laughed at the end. Joe T. Bolt ten for sure, as others said, in time travel science fiction, the viewers could figure out as the crew did. Ed La Comte says eight out of ten. I want to know why we can find dinosaur bones but no records of those bug people. Colleen Thompson says it was a straight up blast and a love letter to pass science fiction crowd pleasers as well. Great snappy dialogue too. Ten out of ten. Scott D. Smith. That was a solid nine point five when those decimal pable as Scott, I didn't like the Vulcan cadet. The Martians were odd but warlike as you'd expect. Love the dinosaurs, Howard Trumbull says ten out of ten. Dinosaur punching took it over the top. Albert J. Lopez Sr.

36:44 A ten. I caught the reference to the Tartis when Pellias said I haven't traveled like that since traveling in a phone booth. John de Claris ten. All around, it was a good primary story, good hints at story arcs for the characters were primarily strange new worlds, but leaving the original series acts unscathed. I love the phone box reference. Could doctor Who? Or it could be Rufus from Bill and Ted Fred Allen ten out of ten. Are you seeing a trend here yet? Ten out of ten. Many people saying the same thing, thinking man sci fi proper stories with logic and perception. No, Fred, you had me no woke agendas is what Fred says with a preposterously placed apostrophe joint there, Fred, I don't know what the day may be a little, less focus on, more focus on grammar. Brother, me try that out, Jason Guitar historian Velli Kiss says nine point five.

37:38 Some of the character arts are still a little head scratching to me, and Spock still hasn't been done right since nimoy Oh Dear. I like Evan Peck as an actor, but the writing of Spock is still not quite right. But the episode itself is a great idea and hard sci fi at its best. Spock saying the enterprise was entangled and meant to be there at that time, explains why their presidence led to the events that it did. Alrighty Michael H. Hamilton, I give it high marks, probably nine out of ten. It was pretty wonderful with the dinosaurs and all, and the writing was darned good too, and Brian Winter, full of hyperbole, rates it a twelve out of ten. Now we have to obey the laws of physics, Brian, and we have to put that down at ten, otherwise you know our podcast will explode. But he says it was excellent with a wonderful paradox. I'm not a math person because I'm more of a word guy with my book learning. But if you add all that stuff together for a fan scorer and averages on my slide rule turn out to say fan score of nine point seven people, which is pretty freaking fantastic. So amazing.

38:44 Let's see what else bubbles up from our conversations. How's that, Uncle Jim? So I wanted to do something a little bit different starting out. Normally, we would just go around and we would each give us scores, say we thought about the episode, but I thought it might be more interesting then if we each if I we had talking points for each one of us, and then we could share our thoughts on the episode. So I wanted to start off with David, and I wanted to talk to David a little bit about this phasing technology that we see the Martians used, since David is our resident miracle worker. So what did you think about the phasing technology? David?

39:27 Well, the way Phacian worked, Jim is that you have to know, okay, So I actually thought it was kind of interesting to see how uh you know, so far back millions of years or whatever, alien race heat or Roman galaxy. I thought that was kind of a cool concept. And the fact that they had technology that seemed to have been more advanced than where we are now, if I was, like you know, with t Osh that I thought it was interesting. Like I mean, the fact that the aliens sort of reminded me a lot like the remulants, and the fact that they just had phasing technology like they didn't TNG. I thought that was kind of an interesting, uh you know, nostalgia in a way to let fans know that, you know, there's still around to still technologies and everything like that. So I don't know, I actually kind of liked it.

40:26 I thought it was I thought it was a bit strange. I thought there was a phasing technology to me means you can pass through something. I didn't think phasing technology meant you could pass through space and into another ship. That was kind of strange, I thought, but interesting because that would make phasing technology, I think, better than transporters. Yeah, in my opinion. Anyways, anybody else want to add anything on the phasing before I move on? And so my next question, which is going to go to v Nope, okay, so V, I wanted to ask you about this brand new Vulcan that we have on the show, obviously, cadet Asha.

41:16 Now we we saw they added Magel to Prodigy, which was a huge addition and really improved season two. We saw them add to Helene to lower Decks, who we talked to on this podcast and she was awesome as well. And now we have cadet Asha. And what do you think about Ashen? Where do you think they're going to be taking her character? Asha was a shoal, but she was rude. But god, I mean her is just trying to you know, trying to be nice and speak her language and everything because we know her are like languages, but for her to be I mean, she made she to me, she almost made what's his name Renac looked like you know a Teddy Bears my god? Or No, he was he was a Romulin Sorry, uh made? Uh what's the guy on the d S nine, the from the baseball episode? I can't think of his name right now.

42:25 But. No, it wasn't the one that kept on. No, Romulin was Renac. It was a Vulcan and I can't think of his name. Now, no, no, no, that's that's somebody else that's in uh uh anyway something. Yes, both the d S nine. No, this one wasn't take me on to the hollow suite, and he was just smug and arrogant. But she was downright bitch. She got lock, thank you. Yeah, that's who it was.

43:05 She made him look perfume, like like a Teddy bear that you know. But God, I mean her is just trying to be nice and she just have to be totally just bitchy as hell. Thank God. I don't you know, I see her getting uh uh you know, there's an air lock. She suddenly I see her going out on air lock by accident. I don't know, but they've got it. They've got to do something with her because that was just so god just awful, very very off putting. I I hope I hope that as the season goes on that they kind of they mellow her out a little bit and uh make her more of a part of the Maybe they'll keep her there, you know, like a Pulaski type of a character, you know, but a.

44:00 Red show, she's gonna kind of. Just very off putting. And it's like, God, you know, that's just I don't know. We'll see, like I said, she'll either she will either mellow out a tiny bit or she'll you know, go out on air lock. I don't know, but yeah, I just very very off putting. God maybe the M one thirteen Salt vampire will get her, who knows. But it's nice to see them put a new character to shake up the dynamic. A little bit. So I thought that was cool. So Charles, we already hinted at it in our cadet training. It was either going to be you or Eric, so it went to you.

44:44 But let's talk a little bit about Pelly's comment about witnessing a stage ten U spatial anomaly from a phone, and we talked about it briefly. But you're our resident who will be in so enlighten us a little bit. Okay, Well, I wouldn't have mentioned one thing about the vulcan. I almost wonder if she's the equivalency of a teenager in human years, because she definitely had the attitude. And I'm not sure quite fit on the ship. As for the As for the phone booth, somebody didn't retference. Well, that could have been Bill and Ted.

45:28 I don't think Bill and Ted were flying around in space visiting anomalies. But Doctor Who, on. The other hand, yes, he's been known for flying around the universe and looking at someone what's out there. And because the way its ship's set up, he can actually open the door and there's a ship's version of shields that he can not be a not have being out of the ship. So I'm pretty sure is one of the doctors. I'm gonna say it was probably one of the new one of the newer doctors. Not sure which one, but I'm pretty sure she was with one of the doctors at one point.

46:16 I I thought that was it. That's actually the second time she made a reference to Doctor Who, so you definitely had to mention that. And of course, Paul I saved the best for last. So uh, let's talk a little bit about the Doldroom and about not the Federation, but about Pike allowing genocide basically in this episode to save the Federation. I wanted to talk a little bit about that. Yeah, I don't know that this is black and white as that, because it's like it's I think it's from his point of view, it's obvious he's making like this instinctive choice based on like, you know, not so much like he's consciously allowing genocide, but he's very he's invoking fealty to the future he knows has to exist so for whatever reasons, Right, And then they discuss that a little bit more at the end. Right, So it's just like he's the he gets really hung up on the fact there is that fifth planet is not there and the reality we come from. Therefore, if we want to go back to that reality, we have to make sure that things don't change on a fundamental way or let things happen as there. It's it's strange because you can get into this one of these time travel conversations that go on and on and on. It's an interesting dilemma, right.

47:34 I think it's we've seen insect species, you know, in Star Trek a few times in the past. Right, the Zindi come to mind, right from Star Trek, Starship Star Trek Enterprise. It's probably the most popular one you can think of. But the thing is, when you get into that, right, it's just like we tend to anthropoporphasize a lot, because when you start talking about an insect species, right, all of a sudden, it's like, we don't empathize with them like we do with another mammalian spacies at all. They become like things. Right, It's very easy for us to go around our house to kill a bug because to us, we have some kind of weird primordial aversion to them, right.

48:15 And I think they were kind of riffing on that a little bit on this episode, right, because it's like, oh, with millions of them, their monsters, right, there's no compassion towards insects at all, until you know, at some point Pike raises the concept of like, well, wait a minute, maybe just can't communicate with them, you know, And there's all different ways you could potentially communicate. Even the smell gets mentioned as a different method of communication, right, So, and the stakes are just too protracted for Commander Cassel to even stop to consider that she's lost too much at this point, so she's not nually considerate. I think that a really cool moment is on the planet's surface though, when Ortegas and everybody finds the crashed Doldrum's ship, right, she's like, you know, it makes a comment. Initially, there's an aversion when there's a jump scare, when one of them has a reflex movement movement or whatever. Right, but she's like, hey, you know, they were just trying to survive like we were. And so there's actually the one moment in the show where there is you know, an empathy for an insect species, right, And I believe it was Ortegis who got that line. I think because you know, she's had I think a lot of her empathy towards things you might be otherwise revolted by is coming to being since her encounter with the Gorn last season. Right, So the things that look different and can be initially something you would be you know, afraid of or repulse by,

49:47 she's got an empathy towards them now that has previously not been there, which I think is really interesting. And then to circle back at the very end, you can tell in that scene with April and Pike at the end right where he feels really step about this, right, he's you know, but Ben's like, hey, I got to make peace about it. But I think he's just like, you know, I felt reflexively he made this like gut call to essentially, yeah, wipe out another species there, but he felt like he almost like it was a preordained thing and things that are preordained really wayh on this guy for ways. I'm sure we'll be exploring a lot in the next couple of seasons here, given we've seen Pike's fate in the original series. How will they approach that? We don't know, but thematically this is all tied up in that, so the idea of like something's being faded.

50:31 I think he feels a lot of guilt about it, though. I think he really does, and I suspect I thought he was a lot more in this episode like the Pike we've seen from the original series. He was, you know, less lack of days ago, taking things more seriously. I think he was really a great iteration of the original series character. But I think the guilt of what he had to do or felt he had no choice but to do. He's going to probably come back again this season would be my guest. But fascinating stuff to discuss though. I mean, there is a lot of rich, rich content in this episode. When when we saw the Doulgrum ship on Earth, did you get LB four th six alien vibes coming out of that ship when we first saw it, Because I immediately thought, oh, this is very bad. We're gonna have face suckers, We're gonna have eggs. I got an immediate I got an alien's LVO right away. I didn't so much.

51:30 It's funny and you I don't know if you know this picture, but the one that it reminded to me is as an old English picture from like the late sixties called quator Mass in the Pit in this country, in this country. It was related. It was retitled in America called five Million Years to Earth. But they they dig up the London underground, right the tube stations, and they find these caverns and things like that, and there's like they find that there were like ancient alien insect like remains, you know, beneath the London subway system, right, and then you get this weird flash vision of like what it would have been like had they, you know, had their domain. It's really fascinating stuff. That's that's where my mind went right more just because they were insects.

52:14 I went. I went to quator Mass in the Pit, but which is really interesting. If you've never seen it, I recommend it. But it's just I think it's it's interesting when shows. Yeah, I remember watching it as a kid a bunch of TV. But you use the insects if you want to sort of have the audience like, go oh, I'm not going to have empathy for them because they're insects, right. I just watched the old Creature feature of them about the giant ants, which was a super influence on aliens by the way, really interesting thing there. It's just like you have no compunction about, like, you know, flame throwing a giant bunch of ants, right, even though they're screaming in terror, because they're insects. And it really makes you question when you stop and go outside of yourself and think, how do I value life? Just certain kinds of familiar life that I value, right, So that's the kind of thing Startrek does so well. It makes you reflect on those kind of questions. And I think that having it be an insect species was a really really good choice and it just brings a lot of interesting stuff to the to the to the table to discuss.

53:18 So what a great script. I have to say, this was a really phenomenal for the most part episode. Did anyone else have any thoughts on the dolgerom and you know, genocide wiping them all out? Yeah? And the implications that you know, she wiped ended up wiping them out, but wiping out Mars at the same time. Now I'm like, I'm with Paul. I thought about that quator Mass movie too, because I first saw that as a kid and the Tent Nightmare for a while, that was, yeah, super creepy. They were like, uh, those that were called giant brasshopper looking things. But I also think about it another DS nine episode about where somebody mentions to Odo about, oh, just you know, you just eradicate them like you would step on ants, and Odo says, I don't step on ants, you know. So that just showed his concern for all life forms. But yeah, it was those some of the creatures were yeah, you just have that that automatic rob just I just had a flash of Men in Black where uh, you know, the giant cockroach with an attitude and and uh where JS Kate, you were stung as a child, weren't you. Oh But anyway, yeah, I thought it.

54:51 I thought it was really fascinating that her actions to wipe out her enemy actually wiped out her own planet as well. You know, just imagine the implications if they had shot down that that missile. The Doldrum would have continued to exist, Mars would have continued to exist. Earth well, wouldn't be the way it is today. I don't think it's It's a great question upon and something that I don't think we can answer here on this podcast. But it is an interesting question to think about, for sure. Yeah, makes you think that's parship troopers coming to being.

55:31 Well, Jim. They do reference that the Doldrum ship a piece of it fell to Earth, which they think was the asteroid that fell to Earth and. Eventually ended the dinosaurs. If that piece hadn't leaned on Earth, we might not have lost the dinosaurs and civilization might have been different. And also I recall. It was a giant hunk of the planet. Yeah, yeah, it was. Didn't in Benga tell Pike at the end that the Martian DNA survived.

56:16 I got a lot so some of them, some of them must have escaped at some point. They made, you know, likelihood they'd already left before this, right, like some of you know athid like, oh look, our planet's going to explode. We have thirty seconds morning, And I doubt it was like that, but brobby Martian explorers in the past and gone out deeper in the right. That's that's the intimation, right. Either way, it was it was. It was great to have starts like back, especially at this particular caliber. I'm so glad that it's bad. So for my score of this episode, we'll start off with our see how we rank next to our fans and what was our fans score again? N nine point seven. That's pretty fy, all right.

57:02 I really really liked the the interplay that they put in here between Ortegas and Scotty. I thought it was great when uh, she's calling him on the Enterprise and he's calling a dinosaur a laddie, and she kind of uh puts it back in him, you know, at him. Oh no, it's not a Letty, it's a Lessie. I thought that whole interplay was great. He's putting lights on everything and blaming me for flying the ship too dangerous and whatnot. And I thought it was great that Scotty actually has more to do than just fixed stuff. He actually interacts with the rest of the crew, which was awesome. I did enjoy watching Horror interact with Asha again. We get to see her as a mentor instead of a mentee, which was really cool when they're getting promoted. I thought, was it's about time, uh pla questioning his own morality here because Pipe knows what his fate is going to be, So questioning pre ordained, destined paradoxes or whatever they call it on Star Trek I was fitting for his character.

58:13 So I thought that was great. The dinosaur scenes on Earth, the CG that they used on was like right out of Jurassic Park, guys. I mean, this was some good stuff. It looked great. I was really really impressed. What else, Pike actually using the saddle that we saw Boimler climb on in the crossover episode. It's been sitting in Pike's quarters all this time. Well now he used it, So I thought that was really cool. Yeah. I enjoyed this episode. Had a really good Star Trek feel to it, And I think, you know what, I don't want to give it a ten, but I will I will go. I will go nine point five because I know that Paul loves those decimals, So I'm going to go with a nine point five on this particular episode just because you know, I don't want to start with a ten because where do we go from here? So I'm going to go with a nine point five on this particular episode, and I'm going to pass a microphone over to the right.

59:21 Yeah, well we can start off because I have a bit of a strange New World story. David. If you could chose a picture of myself getting to meet Ethan Peck. Oh my god. I was at Galaxy Con Richmond this Sace March. I waited in line for like an hour and a half for him to appear. Oh my god, he looks in just endearingly doofy there, but oh my god, he is so handsome and having been a fan of his grandfather in case y'all don't know, been living under a rock. His grandfather is Gregory past who was in to kill a mockingbird, and the man that he the black man that was on trial, was played by none of them, Rock Peters, who will later on portray Cisco's dad in d S nine. So there's that connection. But getting to meet him was just a huge thrill. I was able to comment on how he I was impressed with his dancing when he and Lahn do the tango and found out that when they did four and a half Balcans with Patton Oswalt that that was all patents. I said that that had to be hard to keep the straight face, and he said, oh, it was so anyway, that's my little story there. It was just a fantastic episode anything with writing, because I'm a former equestrian and just seeing

1:00:55 them galloping across the planet was just really agnificent. The like you were saying, uh, uncle Jim the dinosaur h c G. I was fantastic. And you know, we just recently lost Sam Neal been in Jurassic Park. So and of course I'm punching the dinosaur. That's going to be it's going to be hard for her to live down. But no, just a whole paradox with the uh, you know, making decisions. You know, we're all uh you know, it's always history is always full of what if and uh get lost of its connected rep Hi can you hear me?

1:01:47 Clue we're having some difficulty here for me. Yes, now now we can hear you. No, well we could. Oh, so overall the what did you think? What would you give it on a scale of one to ten? H. I think we're going to have to come back to the.

1:02:29 I know, keep I'm sorry, I'm having my connection issues. I'm aggravating. M hmm, all right, I'll be back. Sorry, Okay, we'll move along to David while we wait for VI to reconnect. What do you think, David? I liked it, I didn't like it. I liked it, and then I didn't like it, and I liked it. So overall I liked it. Okay, that's okay. My my favorite things so far have been, of course, punch in the Din, so I thought was kind of funny. The other parts of the show I thought was really well done with the idea of going to Earth at this stage and time, which was kind of fun to witness.

1:03:20 But then I started realizing I mentioned that they kind of reminded me of Romulans, and this is supposed to be what sixty five million years in the past. Are these the origins of the Vulcans under kid because if they found other march in DNA, I don't know. I mean just thinking like that the Vulcans like somehow get seated with March and alien BNA or something, so I don't know. It's kind of an interesting thought, and how it kind of makes sense that the Vulcans are more or less, you know, sympathetic to us in a sense or empathetic as you say, to us, to the point where they're just like you're trying to help humanity drive forward and everything. The thought of that just now thinking, because they look very similar without of course the ears more rounded than pointy, but still it's it's interesting thought.

1:04:12 But overall, the dinosaurs, who doesn't like dinosaurs just kind of fun to watch. And I do agree with you, Jim that the the CGI would really sought on and they did a pretty good job, even though the dinosaurs didn't really do a whole lot in this particular episode. I mean, in the whole episode, I should say it's a forgetting punch. But overall, I really enjoyed it. There was a lot of loopholes that I thought were kind of strange because I have to go through this just to get out of my system. So in the very beginning, when they got damage and everybody was like sent back in the past, Scotty specifically said that the transporters are offline and that he doesn't know when they might come on or if. But then when they were getting ready to transport those people aboard the ship, they were in the transporters, I'm like, wait a minute, I thought the transporters weren't working. So I don't know, it was just something that I had to have to get off my chest.

1:05:12 I was just like, I just kind of drew me back a little bit from the story. But I was just, you know, other than that, it was just little bits in here that you know, I just have to pick at because it's just something that I noticed. But other than that, yeah, this whole episode. I I. Was going to give it a really low score until they brought in the idea that they were in Soul System and the idea that there was a fifth planet between Jupiter and Mars. I thought that was a really clever idea to explain why we have that asteroid belt, and to me, that just brought the whole score up to me. And the idea that the rock or the media that I destroyed donnay Shoy came from that planet, which I thought was even cooler. And so I don't know, this whole episode to me was actually really spot on, And I'm glad that they kind of started off with this episode. If they started off with the puppet episode, it might have been a way different story.

1:06:16 But to me, I think this particular episode deserves close to a ten. I don't want to give it a ten because of some of the other things I know that I'm forgetting about what I kind of was like eh about. But other than that, I think I'm going to actually give this episode an eight. All right, So we got an eight from David Paul You want to jump in next? Really? Absolutely yeah, phenomenal work on this across the Bow, right, every single thing. I thought it was great. You know, I complain a lot about writing, right, I really do, because it's it's it's the foundation of everything. And the writing on this episode was really really strong, right. I thought it was really good. It was a very uh evokes those classic science fiction conundrums that some of our fans mentioned, right, I mean, and but not in a repetitive way, right, And I think they really brought a lot of fresh life into it very creatively kept it very character focused as well. I just cannot say enough about the Saffron Burroughs, who was the Commander Cassell. I mean, it's just like a lot of times you get these people who come in and they portray like a gust alien or whatever.

1:07:32 You forget them five minutes after the screen, right, and. Every kind of ass. I mean, it was such a measured performance. Right. She starts off she's absolutely don't want to hear anything about anything except weapons. Right, But then they have a meeting in the minds right about you know, Pike really convinces her about you know, Star trek Ethos and the community, and she's like initially in the whole charrot and thestic conversation they had was hilarious, you know, but but not just for cheap laughs. Right. I thought she was just remarkable. It was a really, really memorable performance. I just thought she really just brought the whole level of the show up to a much higher tier because of the work she did. So I thought she did fantastic. There's little things I have quibbles with right here and there. I was going out of my skin during like the opening sequence or one of the first briefing conversations. God love you, Carolcane. I think you're a wonderful person. I've enjoyed your work, but I cannot stand this Pellia character. Okay, she just drives me crazy.

1:08:39 And the fan service doctor who references this referencing thing that just referencing is not writing. I'm sorry, but throwing in something. Oh, I recognize this because this is that that is not writing and it just strives me nuts. And she was just overacting to such a preposterous degree with this accent. I just get her off the show, please. I agree with you. I didn't like Paulia last year, but now that we have Scottie, she's a fifth wheel. We don't really need her anymore. What Scottish. Yeah, it's just she's just doing all these things to get attention. It's just like mugging, like to the camera right to get attention, these big, unnecessary, you know, selfish moments.

1:09:26 It's just not good acting. I'm sorry. I just I just find the character really annoying and I don't like what she's doing with it so well. She makes stupid assessments like, oh, the tendrils grabbed us like little fingers holding us in place, like we all know what we are trying to escape with little tiny flippers that are really really tiny. You can't. It's it's so file. She's like a child Dan and I went that on the Star Trek. So she's just too childish. So yeah, that that, you know, But I am refusing as much as that annoyed me, Like it's okay, Like at the very end of the show, right, they ended on this great note with Una getting promoted, and then there was this weird extra scene, preposterously over budgeted, long, lingering CG shot of all the dinosaurs going over the planet.

1:10:11 Like it kind of ruined the moment at the end, right because it was just like, we don't need to see this, you know, crazy you know, God's eye view of the fucking you know dinosaurs. It was annoying. I'm like, you're you're, you're kind of you know, you ended on a bad moment, right because we don't need that. We've already seen it. You know, you're just trying to show off the effects money or whatever. So it's just that that drove me crazy. So again, are the things that bothered me, little minor things like that, hiccups? Yeah, but you know what, when somebody does really good work, it should be rewarded. And you don't let that torpedo your score. Right, That's how I say. I said that they deserve nothing but like tremendous kudos for writing and delivering a really top tier classic science fiction episode that to me falls in line with the best stuff we wishould hope Star Trek does so. For me, unabashed ten, I thought it was great. This isn't the you know, work like this doesn't deserve to be nitpicked. I would say it deserves to be embraced. And more of this, please, Henry A.

1:11:08 Lonzo Myers, and everyone else who had anything to do with the screenwriting on here. I think he did a great job everyone. With that one exception, I'm throwing that back. And you know, so we've got no Kirk in this episode too, but I'm pretty sure we're getting a lot of Kirk tonight in episode two. So you know, you have to measure these things out. But this was a top tier well written episode. Ten ten ten, All right, there we go. It's ten. So Cho, you got to bring up the caboose here unless we get v back. Okay, Well, one thing to come off a poll. He didn't like the dinosaur scene. I like the dinosaur scene because you had the crew members, you had the core crew members all they at the table, even having the the pilot and the engineer.

1:11:58 Who were sneering in each other. But like, okay, we got to see dinosaurs, like tell us about the dinosaurs. They want to hear about the dinosaurs. They want to hear what happened the planet because nobody else got to see it. And I think that was the crew excited to see what they went through, what they saw on that planet, because the only thing there used to seeing is history books, and they wanted they wanted to hear stories from somebody who was there. So I like that. I actually like Pelia just because Okay, she's more of a child. No, she's not a child, she's an older adult.

1:12:41 She's a real senior because of we knowing her age, and we know the fact that she has does not have plot armor, so we know something's going to happen to her in this season or next. But I think it may be the fact that she's gonna vent shoot, really decide something's gonna happen to where she's gonna move on and she will let Scottie take over engineering because right now she is the lead for engineering. So I think it's a wait and see what's happened with her thing of a plot armor. I'm looking at Lawn at the end where she said, Okay, I had the dinosaur in my fist and I didn't feel any pain. It's like, Okay, I think that's an insight to another storyline coming in this season next. I think that's definitely showing effect of maybe where we might lose her is because the fact that she is a Noonian Singh and that maybe she is coming is inheriting some of the abilities that she thought she had not had because she thought the gene was recessive.

1:14:00 And Bega and. In April discussion. That made me felt like this was a more it was the word this was a more deeper episode when the effect admitting it's like, okay, and I really hadn't really thought about this, but they were chasing down their own distress beacon. They were looking at the planets and we talked about, oh, there's no fifth planet. Well there is a fifth planet, but it's not this planet. It's Jupiter. Is the fifth planet, Jupiter in this set with the sixth planet, So we know something that's going to have to happen. And definitely we're looking at the fact. It's like, okay, doctor who references the fact that there are points in there strict points in time, there are points in time where things cannot change, that things just it has to happen, And I wonder if this might be might have been a fixed point in time where somebody went back in time.

1:15:16 And was able to change what was going to happen. And I thought this was interesting because like, well we did this. It's like, yeah, well, I think it may have been the truth that you were meant to do that. As April says you were meant to do that, there's something that happened because of the time paradox. And I thought that was an interesting time paradox. As for score, I agree with Jim. I'm not sure I get ready to come up with a ten yet, but I was thinking the same thing Jim was, this was a good nine point five right there up which up where it should be?

1:16:05 All right, we got V back. Yeah, we got nine point five from Charles, and how about you VU. Yeah. I rated a nine point five as well because it was it was really really good. But I mean, we've got a Muppet episode coming out time saving my ten for that. I just hope I all right now. All I can say is I hope I can stay connected. My internet sucked anyway. Just got I'm back, So there you go. All right, So Charles, how did the truck's first pile up? Next to our Facebook fans for this week's score.

1:16:46 Well, the fans gave this one a nine point seven and the truck spirts gave it a nine point three. Oh wow, that's that's pretty damns actually pritty damn close. So there you have it, guys, Trek Spurts versus fans pretty much spot on. All right. Well, that finishes up our conversation on Star Trek Strange New World season four episode one. We'll be tackling episode two next week, so stay tuned, same BAT time, same BAT channel. So I'm looking forward to that, all right. So this is the part of the show where we do our sci fi birthdays.

1:17:30 Roll the tape, David rolling. That was not a Clinton song, all right, guys. Usually I will start off on our sci fi birthdays by sadly enough remembering those members of our family who are no longer with us, and usually we would turn to Eric. We are going to turn to V this week. V has volunteered to step in for Eric, but if V has technical difficulties, we will have Paul step in and pick up the slack. So take it away, V.

1:18:19 All right, I'm going to feed through while I've got connection. So one of my favorite actors. Remember we were remembering Yule Brenner. He's Russian born Swiss American film and stage actor, best known for his portrayal of King Mongkut of Siam in one of my favorite musicals, Rogers and Hammerstein, The King and I. He got two Tony Awards for that and an Academy Award for the film version. He also started as Ramses the Second in the nineteen fifty six film The Ten Commandments, Bonin in the nineteen fifty six film Anastasia, and Chris Adams in The Magnificent Seven, and in one of his creepiest roles, the Gunslinger in the film West World. Next, Happy Birthday Goes to Ron Glass.

1:19:19 He played Locan in Voyager seventh seventh Pith seventh season episode Nightingale. Best known for his Emmy nominated role as Detective Ron Harris on the TV series Barney Miller and Shepherd book in Firefly. Next, We Wish a Heavenly Happy Birthday, Chips Andy. He was an actor who played a Kuta in Coos second season episode The Apple. Next. Another favorite actor of mine, Terence Stamp He portrayed Rtonians super villain General zod In Richard Donners Superman. The film's originally supposed to be a three hour epic, but Warner Brothers elected to split the production into two films, Superman and Superman Too.

1:20:16 But he will also always be Bernadette for me anyway, in the Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. I loved him in that role. Next, we're wishing happy Birthday to Phyllis Douglas. She played Yeoman Mirrors in cos first season episode The Galileo Seven and Mavig in the third season episode The Way to Eden Ah, Here we Go, Here's a super villain in the Star Trek World. Louise Fletcher. She was the Academy Award winning Emmy Award nominated actress who played the Bajoran spiritual leader Vedic kai Win Kaiwin Adami in fourteen episodes of d S nine, where she famously had a relationship with a disguised Ducat. But she's best known, of course, for her performances Nurse Mildred Ratchet in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nets. And lastly, we are remembering David Warner. He is an English actor who plays Saint John Talbot in Star Trek Ok, here we go in Uncle Jim's favorite Star Trek movie, Star Trek five.

1:21:38 He was also a Gore Khan in Star Trek six, The Undiscovered Country and Madrid in PMG six season episode ten of Commands Part one and Part two, and Stark a Dillinger and the MCP in Fraun All right, now we're going on to people who are still with us? Can you all can still hear me? Right? Oop? I knew? Yep, we hear you a lot? Good, good, good, all right. My first happy birthday goes up to Ike Eisenman. He played Peter Preston in Star Trek to the Wrath of Khan, where he was Scotty's nephew.

1:22:31 He also appeared in the movie Escape to Which Mountain and its sequel Return to Witch Mountains, both of which I saw in the movie theaters. He was really he was adorable. Next happy birthday goes out to Penelope Mitchell. She played Renee Picard in the second season episode or second season of Star Trek Picard. She also played Helen impersonating Renee in the episode Farewell. Born and Raised in Australia to a French artist's mother and an Australian businessman father. Next, A very happy birthday goes out to Iman. Gorgeous lady, very talented. She's a Somali model and actress who played Martya in Start to Pick The Undiscovered Country. She was born in Movidisha, Somalia as Zara Mohammad Abdul Majid, but her first name was later changed to Iman, meeting space in Arabic and some of us might know that she was married to one of my favorite singers, of course, to David Bowie. Next, Happy birthday to somebody we just saw in The Springs New World, Paul Wesley. Oh, okay, hold on this so being stupid here? I just blanked out,

1:24:04 so I can't read the rest of this anyway. Sorry, I'm just Paul Wesley, who played Captain James T. Kirk and Strange New World first season episode A Quality of Mercy, and the second season episodes Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow Lost in Transition and Subspace Rhapsody. The second season performance earned them a twenty twenty four Saturn Award. Outside of the franchise, he starred in the series The Vampire Diaries. Happy Birthday to Paul Wesley. The new James T. Kirk, are you back with us? Meet?

1:24:47 It's just I'm trying to reconnect or I mean that I'm reading it off with my tablet and it just won't let me. I did want to before I lose total connection. If I could just have David show the picture of his happy birthday goes to Nana Visitor, who I've met twice now. She's lovely, lovely and of course we know her as a major Kira Nourice on Star Trek DS nine. I have her book Open a Channel, which I have not read yet, but I'm going to. But hopefully it would be great if we could get her on the show. So Happy Birthday to Nana Visitor.

1:25:35 And not a Visitor. Played kierennesis Space nine, and revisited the character as a voice actress in the third season of the animated series Star Trek Lower Decks, and she also appeared as Jason Vorhe's mother, Pamela Vorhees in the two thousand and nine remake of Friday the Thirteen. Happy Verus Tanana Visitor, we have one more birthday and I don't know. Yeah, no, I'm actually I got it. Got it back for the moment. Happy birthday Mary Wiseman. She played Sylvia Tilley and Star Trek Discovery, and she reprised a role in the Star Trek Short Treks episode Runaway and the Star Trek Starfleet Academy first season episode The Life of the Star. So happy birthday to Mary. All right, now I'm passing the flaming birthday candle over to Paul.

1:26:35 Thank you. V I hope you didn't get whiplash there. That can be juggling various devices. Uh yeah, painful and a crappy, crappy internet service too. Yeah, we're gonna get to a hotspot dsler something. I don't know a right. You live in the state near the nation's capital, so no one, everything's so fucked up. Sorry, that just came out. I don't know what. All right, Sorry, let's get back to our family hour here. Hold on. First of all, we have all kinds of other folks to say a lot too, And i'd like to give big rousing birthday to actor Bruce McGill okay, who we acknowledge here for playing Praxton in Voyagers fifth season episode Relativity. Born in San Antonio, Texas, he graduated from UT and Austin with a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree and actor. And of course he's well known, very well known. Now, this is the guy who's done a lot of stuff. You've seen, He've been on the Insider, He's been my cousin Vinnie. That was a very popular picture, A law abiding citizen. He's done a ton of stuff, right, I mean a ton of stuff. But he will love you.

1:27:49 Bruce forever be known for his role as Daniel Simpson Day AKAA d Day in the phenomenal movie Animal When I think about how old Animal House is now, it's thrightening to me, but I still love Dean Warmer. Daniel Simpson Day has no great point at it. It's amazing, but amazing cat, what a what a career and an indelible role. It's pretty much everybody in Animal House. So happy birthday, Bobbie Birdly to the legendary Ronnie Cox, actor, singer, songwriter who played Captain Edward Jellico in the next season six season episode Chain of Command, Part one, Part two.

1:28:31 We were just talking about that recently and now Ronnie Cox is his own answer figure. Phenomenal. He also returned to voice the Jellico character on Starterrek Prodigy to show that all Treks fans should watch. If you haven't already, I say, shame upon your shame, because it's amazing stuff. Also, he was played a very cantankerous Chief Boga Mill in Beverly Hills Cop franchise, but I like to think of him as he's just insidious bastard, corporate business evil personified Dick Jones in the original robook. He's great a man. Did he ever have a well deserved ending to that character in that movie? It was just great Dick Jones amazing.

1:29:17 So Ronnie Cox is great. And if you want another side of Ronnie Cox, you may never seen. For God Almighty, if you've never seen this movie, check out the classic John Borman film Deliverance from the seventies. It's an amazing motion picture and gets remembered for a piece of music in one really strange scene. But it's an amazing motion picture and you should if you have not seen it and you're a movie fan, rectify that and check it off your list and see Deliverance. It's right up there with the French Connection and other classic seventies pictures as well. And wow, Ronnie Cox really shines in that picture. Happy Birthday to the wonderful Michelle Rodriguez. I love you. I feel she portrayed a kilgore Barbarian in The Thief, in the Dungeons and Dragons Honor among Themes movies, Elena Santos in Battle Los Angeles, Trudy check Alone in Avatar and really for James Cameron and flying those crazy chopper machines around there also in the Fast and Furious franchise, and I like to remember her work in the television show Lost as well. She had a really cool arc and played a very cool character as well. So she's done a lot of good stuff, always entertaining, always brings it.

1:30:33 Michelle emrod As she's excellently known amazingly cool actors, so we love you. Another cool performer, of course, is the amazing lovely Summer Glout Okay, absolutely wonderful dancer and actress who we acknowledge for her phenomenal work as River Tam in the iconic cult science fiction series Firefly and very prominently in the follow up movie Surrounder. Okay, where she'd just do is phenomenal. What a kick ass role, and I'm pretty sure we're going to be hearing more of a Summer cloud because they're repositioning more Fireflies like a prequel radio series. Now it sounds like so I'm sure she's going to be involved. She was definitely one of the folks that got her door knocked on, and those viral clips there as they guarded interest in that. So looking forward to hearing more of River Tam as a character again soon. And let's not forget if you've never seen this TV series, she was the she was the chief well, I don't even I don't want to spoil if you've never seen it, but just check out her work in the Sarah Connor Chronicles, which is part of the Terminator universe. It was actually a Terminator TV series and if people forget it, but it was awesome and her character is really interesting. I'll just put it that way.

1:31:49 If you've not seen it, you should. It's absolutely wonderful. And let's give it up to the original iconic, never to be forgotten, never to be replaced, wonder Woman Linda Carter actress, singer, a former beauty contest pageant contestant. She played wonder Woman on the television series from nineteen seventy five to nineteen seventy nine, and she was on many a bedroom wall right up there with Farah Fawcett for a long time iconic. She was crowned Miss World back in nineteen seventy two. And I don't really think I need to mention any of her other pageant work because I'm not sure about that whole line of work anyway. But as a wonder woman, she is a forever icon and just absolutely wonderful work, really, really tremendous, did a ton of cool things. Was in the Supergirl series as well Smallville. I don't mention Dukes of Hazzard because it's an aberration on the face of culture, so we just won't.

1:32:47 Even talk about that. But Linda Carter, we love you, So there you go. You get a pass for being in that Sweetheart all right? Another icon? Can you handle it? Can you handle one more? I think you can, because this guy a lot to say about, Okay, the Mighty Harrison Ford. He is a cinema icon. He has received Academy Award nominations, British BAFTA, Academy Awards, Emmy Awards, five Golden Globes, two Screen Actors Guild Awards, recipient of the a FI American Film Institute Life Achievement Award, the Damill Award and honor a Sesar sag After Life Achievement Award. Absolutely amazing. We're playing, of course in the iconic shoot First, Ask Questions later, Hans Solo in the Star Wars franchise. He is Indiana Jones incarnate.

1:33:36 He is Indiana Jones right, and Rick Deckard of course in Blade Runner. So what a what a legacy this guy leaves behind. I mean, release Bind. He's still working like a madman. He's still on that Apple TV series. He's working all the time. Harrison Ford is a treasure. He's amazing. And I'm not going to get into it, but if you have not seen the class except speech he made at a popular university this year where he talks about maybe he's like a commencement speaker at this university address, go watch his speech. It will break your heart. It is unbelievable. I mean, what a man. If you could leave a speech like that in your tombstone, you did good work. But I would rank that commencement speech he made up there with any of his other work that he's done. He's just amazing. And I always forget to mention this, but the great Peter Ware film Witness, where he has to bear a cop who's doing undercover in the Amish community, is one of the greatest pictures of the eighties. Is amazing. People often forget to talk about that when they talk about Harrison Ford. But it is a spectacular picture and if you've never seen it, wow, do I envy you? It's wonderful. But Harrison Ford, we love you. Also heroic pilot in real life as well, who's done some really cool things and helped a lot of people out. So he's a really good dude. And long life you've Sarah Man. We'd love to spend some time talking to you. You're a great dude. Hey, Because we don't have enough icons on the show that we're

1:35:07 talking about, want more, just squeezes out here if I can order the British Empire recipient and general all around icon of all capital I the great Patrick Stewart Okay, Emmy Award, Golden Globe nominated classically trained Shakespearean actor who played so many different roles. We don't have that kind of time, which is so But of course who we acknowledged for his legendary performances, Captain Sean Luke Piccard. We played for seven seasons on Star Trek the Next Generation and all of its many feature film spinoffs, and then this redone series Star Trek Picard, where we got to see even more of the great John Luke there but he shows up in all kinds of pictures and go check him out. And the television adaptation of I Claudius to see a very young right out of the Royal Shakespeare Company Patrick Stewart, amazing. If you are a fan of the Odyssey, as everyone seems to be lately, you should check out I Claudius. Amazing work. And he was in Excalibur, another great John Borman picture that you should check out. And he was the original Gurnie Halleck in David Lynch's Doune as well. So this is a guy who's done a lot of tremendous work, really amazing. I think one of his greatest gifts is he's helped bring folks who normally wouldn't give a hoot about Shakespeare and introduce them to the language because he made sure Shakespeare

1:36:40 was always a part of John luccard character, both in terms of his delivery and some of his references where he would actually depict scenes from famous Shakespeare plays on the show, which is great, so a legendary and let's not forget Professor X Charles Xavier and the X Men pictures. We do not want to forget that. And I believe, if my whisperers are giving me correct information, we'll be seeing uh Patrick Stewart again in Avengers Doomsday this December. I'm pretty sure he's retired from acting formally now, but you never know what can lure a guy like this back a wonderful human being, though the lift of those folks is getting shorter all the time. So Patrick Stewart, sir, we salute you long life, and thank you for favoring us with your work and keeping the bard alive, passing it over to legendary luminary back from the brink stronger than ever. We can rebuild him, we can make him better than he was before.

1:37:45 Uncle Jeff, I just want to apologize real quick. The list our birthday list was a little bit long because we haven't had one in two weeks, and there were so many great names on this list. I just didn't want to cut them out. So I apologize if our list was a little bit longer than usual, but some of these actors are just too great to ignore. So but don't worry, We're just about done. I want to say Happy birthday to Chris Sarandon. He's the Academy Award nominated actor and voice actor who played Martis Mazour and Deep Space nine second season episode Rivals. He's best known as the speaking voice of Jack Skellington and Tim Burton's A Nightmare Before Christmas and the vampire Jerry Dandris in Fright Night, which is a great movie if you haven't seen it. He was also in The Princess Bride. So Happy birthday to Chris Sirrandon. Next on my list, The Incredible, the Awesome, the Ageless. Will Wheetn He's an actor and writer best known as Wesley Crusher on the first through fourth seasons of TNG. Although he left the show following the episode final mission, he returned as a guest star twice in the fifth season and twice in the seventh season.

1:39:06 He also appears briefly at the beginning of Star Trek Nemesis during Riker and Diana Troy's wedding. He had a surprise cameo appearance during the season two finale of Star Trek to Card the Farewell. Was a main cast member in season two of Star Trek Prodigy, which is awesome. If you guys missed that, what are you waiting for? Run don't walk and watch it. And he also voiced the character in the Star Trek Lower Decks episode Old Friends, New Planets and I Gotta tell you will We and is awesome. He's a great guy and we're lucky to have him. So happy Birthday two? Will we in? Okay?

1:39:47 Next we have Carl strike in That's right. Dutch actor, he is known for playing the role of Mister Home and Star Trek, The Next Generation and The Household Butler Lurch, and The Adams Family and The Adams Family Values films. He also appeared in the film's Men in Black and Doctor Sleep, and played Terek in the nineteen eighty five TV film Ewoks The Battle for End Or Now, if you go back to that picture of Carl Striking that we just had up there on the screen where that one, if you look at the bottom right hand corner of that, you might notice there's Carl striking and there's a really handsome dude flashing to live long and prosper and a really good looking bride. That is Karen and myself at our wedding way way way way way back in nineteen ninety three. And that's Carl Striking at our wedding. What a great guy. He's awesome. And happy birthday to Carl's Striking and I have one more birthday. This is illuminary that I could not leave off the lift. If you grew up in the eighties, he was the man. He coined the phrases Asta, la vista, baby, and odovi bach.

1:41:09 Of course, we're talking about the one the only. Arnold Schwartzenneger Austrian and American actor, business and film producer, politician, and former professional bodybuilder who served as the thirty eighth Governor of California from two thousand and three to twenty eleven after retiring from bodybuilding game worldwide fame in the eighties. Is a Hollywood actor. His breakthrough came with his starring role in Conan the Barbarian, which was followed by the sequel Conan the Destroyer. He subsequently starred as the Terminator in the film The Terminator and reprised the role in four sequels. His other appearances include the film's Commando, The Running Man, Predator, pil Recall, True Lies, and the comedies Twins, Kindertarten, Top and Jingle all the Way. What can I say about Arnold Schwarzenegger. If you grew up in the eighties, you grew up with Arnold Schwarzeneger. He is just He's an icon of the eighties. I can't say enough about him.

1:42:16 Happy Birthday to Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Terminator himself. And each week I'll pick a birthday movie, a movie that's celebrating a birthday. This one is a little bit old because, as I said, I had a heart attack, So yeah, whatever, But David roll the tape. In New York nineteen ninety seven, the entire city is a warm, maximum security prison. The bridge is a mind, the rivers are petrothed, and the United States Police Force has everything under control.

1:43:05 They think. I'm going In. John Carpenter's Escape from New York The High Adventure of the Future. One man must go in where no man has ever gotten out, and if he comes back alone, his nightmare has just begun. Who are you? John Carpenter's Escape. From New York. There you were dead?

1:43:53 John Carpenter's Escape from New York, the greatest Escape of the Wall is about to blow the future of Now, if you have not seen that movie, what are you waiting for? We're a little bit late because that we did a Kurt Russell. You guys remember the Kurt Russell show that we did a couple of weeks ago, and so this would have been the next show after that. So I thought this was a fitting choice. I had heart attack. It didn't happen, but I wanted to honor this movie. Escape From It's it is awesome. It is Escape from New York was released forty five years ago on July tenth, nineteen eighty one. It was directed by John Carpenter and of course starred the awesome Kurt Russell, Lee Van ernest borgnin Donald Pleasant, Isaac Hayes, Adrian Barbo, Tom Atkins, Frank Doubleday, Ox Baker, and Harry Dean Stanton.

1:44:55 Oh my god, that list is just full of iconic names. It is set in the future of nineteen ninety seven, which back then seemed like a long time in the future. Carmen in dystopian United States, which has converted Manhattan Island in New York City into the Country's Soul maximum security prison. When you check in, you don't check out. Happy Birthday to escape from New York. Please. If you haven't seen this movie, you are missing out. It is spectacular. Okay. That wraps up our birthdays for this for this week. I know there was a lot. I apologize. I'm going to cut that down quite a bit from now on and hopefully I won't have another heart attack and I won't have to fall back. So that's our birthdays. Now.

1:45:47 We do some Star Trek News, all right, Star Trek News. We always start off, if possible, with a segment that Eric usually does for us, but Eric is not here with us today, so we are going to pass it over to the So the you want to start off with with our first segment here.

1:46:37 Yes, Shatner says, I've been wanting to say that for a while anyway. Shatner William Chatner wrote a Guns and Roses inspired song TV Icon. William Shatner's other creative outlet is music. Who knew He is releasing a metal album called Gathering of Forces, and he revealed his inspirations. There is one song that is titled with a direct reference to a Guns and Roses song. The hard rock band released Patience in nineteen eighty nine with the album Guns N' Roses Lies. The song opens with a beautiful guitar and whistling. The lyrics talk about missing a woman and needing patience to see her again, said woman, Take it slow and things will be just fine. You and I'll just use a little patience, said sugar. Take the time because the lights are shining bright. You and I got what it takes to make it. Sorry anyway, it was the eighties, what can I say? The hopeful song sparked inspiration for Shatner. There's a popular Gums and Roses song called Patience, said the actor, So we wrote a song called Impatience. He learned something new about what's possible with the metal genre, and it's like, I'm not waiting around

1:48:08 for anybody. I'm not waiting around, he continued. I found out. I found out that heavy metal does have guitar solos in it. I didn't know. I thought heavy metal was bing bang, crash boom, and it isn't only that. So I'm learning. The Emmy winner started his recording career How could We Forget in nineteen sixty eight and cover the Beatles, Bob Dylan Elton, John Pink Boyd, David Bowie and Queen. He released his new work in February with Cleopatra. I spent a lifetime exploring in both reality and fiction. Now I am stepping out into the unknown once again with my new project in Heavy Metals. I am covering Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden, as well as a number of new songs written by my team. The whole project is destined for this year. I hope you will join me in the exploration. Tet revealed the singer who inspires him most. Freddie had such a superb voice. He said, if you're asking me who my favorite singer, I'd say Freddie Mercury was my favorite band. Queen, which David knows something about right favorite song Bohemian Rhapsody, Mine too, William

1:49:38 Impatience isn't the first time the actor wrote a song. He wrote something. Oh, he wrote something for his funeral. Oh My, I would play a song we wrote called I Want to Be a Tree. He said, I had read an article about planting a tree on your body when you die, and I thought that's the way I want to go. I've made arrangements that I will be cremated, my ashes buried in the ground and a tree planted on top. I guess one way to uh branch out in the world. Sorry, uh, the Canadian actor already has a kind of tree picked out. I originally wanted a sequoia placed over my body, but they said it wouldn't grow, So I'm going to be a giant redwood. The really state of the gathering of forces and further details haven't been revealed. All right, that's about as shatner as you can get, right, Okay, onto the next.

1:50:41 M all right, the you're branched out? There was better than well written in that entire article. I was trying it was. I don't know that. You gotta Bernard Shadder says, what that's nic. Who wrote that? Oh? I know, Ai, Yeah, that's who wrote it. Now, so let's move on. We got an obituary here to add in the oil list here for future iterations of remembrances. We're going to talk about Star Trek, Twilight Zone prom Night actress Anchwinette Bauer, who just recently passed away at age of ninety three. The German born British actress who starred on an Adam and Evel like episode of the Twilight Zone, and portrayed the seductive catlike alien Sylvia on an installment of Star Trek. Has died at the age of ninety three. On big screen, Bauer got top filling in the Filipino shot horror film Super Beast nineteen seventy two, played the wife of Leslie Nielsen and mother of Jamie Lee Curtis in the slasher classic prom Night from nineteen eighty and was kidnapped by Charles Bronson and the action thriller The Evil That Men Do, which I'm pretty sure is from an Alistair McClain novel, if I remember correctly.

1:51:57 On the Rod Serling Penn Twilight episode Probe seven, Over and Out, which premiered during the anthology show's fifth and final season, The Statuesque, Bauer portrayed Eve Norda, a woman stranded on a distant planet. The only other person around is an astronaut named Adam Cook Richard Bashart Eve Adam, I see where this is going. Bauer also as memorable as the villain of Sylvia opposite Theo Marcus as Korrob in the second season Star Trek episode Catspaw which premiered in October of nineteen sixty seven and is a perennial Halloween favorite. Antoinette Alexander Jane Bauer was born to a German mother an English father in September thirtieth, nineteen thirty two and bottom on Germany. Educated in England. She was a field language supervisor and welfare counselor in the nineteen forties with the United Nations International Refugee Organization, which assisted millions of people left homeless across Europe and Asia following World War II. She visited la in the early nineteen sixties and decided to stick around after landing an uncredited role in Marlon Brando's Mutiny on the Body nineteen sixty two, and guests are parts on such shows as Adventures in Paradise, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Hong Kong, Wagon Train, Thriller, Hawaiian I, and Perry Mason. She remained quite busy through the early eighties, showing up on Combats, The Man from Uncle Burke's Law, The Wild Wild West, I Spy, The Fugitive, The Invaders, personal favorite, The Big Valley Bonanza, Mannix, Wwifi, I Have O Get Smart, Hogan Zerroo's Mission Ipossible, the FBI Columbo CoA, Jack and Murder, She wrote Wow, and in the nineteen

1:53:28 eighty three mini series The thorn Birds. She pretty much left acting after her run on CTV's Neon Ryder Power Weed Texas born pop star James Gill in nineteen sixty three, but their marriage ended in divorce. She was predeceased by her half predeceased. I'm gonna have to are you pre Yeah, I gonna have to use that she was predeceased brother Roger. Now, another way you might say that Ai is her half brother. Roger died before she did. That's another way you can say that if you were the soulless AI just tips for the future as you learn to educate yourself even better.

1:54:08 A life celebration, which we humans call a celebration of life, is scheduled for September twenty sixth in Pasadena, California. So hats off to you, Antrenette Bower. You certainly did some amazing stuff in your time, and your legacy lives on. I'll pass this Mike back over to immortal immortal that he is, Uncle Jim. Yes, the stage that I am. Thank you so much Paul, we have one final story here and there he is on the screen. Star Trek actor confirms franchise return after a seven year absince. Many characters have come and gone in the Star Trek universe, but surprise returns have also long been a big part of franchise. It turns out that another return has been confirmed after a seven year absence, or me should be seen when and where this will occur.

1:55:03 Actor James Frayne portrayed Sarah, the father of Ethan Peck Spock, in the first two seasons of Star Trek Discovery. He has not made an on screen appearance since the season two finale, which debuted in twenty nineteen. Now, and a new post shared on his Instagram on July eleventh, Frame shared an image of himself in character as Sarah. The actor confirmed that he's been on set for multiple projects, one of which involves Sarah, but he didn't state which series he was specifically involved with. The caption on the post stated, haven't posted for a minute. Been doing a few different things that I've been on set for, which means I can't post any of the photos that I've been taking yet because of secrecy and pr and all that stuff, but one of them involves this guy seen on our screen. Little hint, just tiny hint here. Star Trek Discovery ended in twenty twenty five, so it seems likely that this return is for an appearance in Star Trek's Strange New World, which still has two seasons left to go before concluding. It's also possible that he could be appearing in the second and final season a Star Trek Starfleet Academy. That would be likely as a hologram if that was the case. Either way, this announcement is surprising as both shows have already wrapped filming their final seasons and the sets have been torn down so that

1:56:35 My Friends wraps up our show? What do you think was it? Was it? Okay? Did we do all right? Without Eric? Did I do okay? I'm a big return for my massive heart attack? I think so? Yeah, I think so. I Like I said, we are. I'm gonna try to shorten the show and condense it a little bit. We might only have one new story a week. I'm going to try to get the birthdays down a six or ten if possible, so we can spend as much time talking about the episodes with any at any rate. I am glad to be back. I'm so happy to talk to you guys about Star Trek and share that with all of our fans. So I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, and I want to say thank you to Charles for hanging out and trek talking with us tonight.

1:57:20 Thank you Charles, Thank you Jim. Always good to be here. And thank you to David not only for hanging out with us, but we get into all these awesome videos on the screen. Thank you David. Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Glad to be back. And thank you, of course for Paul Well for hanging out and Trek talking with us and filling those big shoes left by Eric. Thank you Paul. Great to have you back. Uncle Jim, glad you're well. Shameless movie plugs real quick. If you have not seen The Odyssey yet, my god, it is movie history. You've got to see it on the biggest screen, imaginable. It is absolutely phenomenally. You will not be sorry. And then this weekend I'm heading out to see my web slinging buddy, good old Spidy because we have a new Spider Man movie, Spider Man Brand New Day opened tomorrow, so super excited hearing great things. A grades on both those pictures, so phenomenal stuff. To go joy Nerds next week.

1:58:18 To Paul if I'm up to it, if I if I'm up to it, and to make it without too much of a problem. I plan on going to see Spider Man myself. Hopefully it will all work out for me. Yeah, I've heard good things. Thank you so much to the despite the technical difficulties that she had. I'm glad that you were able to join us. Thank you, d always glad to be here and especially glad to see you. And uh, I was kind of missing the constance five references, but that's okay. But we did get one in there though, Yeah we did, but I mean you you always you know, yeah.

1:58:59 Didn't get one, so that we can't have a podcast without starter. I know, most folks excellent hosts. Uncle Jim saying to everybody please please stay safe and be good to each other, yelling. Frequencies are closed. Good night everyone, good night, We're two number one. You're the captain. Captain M ready for warm sir, kay m Hm m hmm