Episode 663 - Khan audio drama episode 8 "Original Sin" review

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turned bout Cimitar, death of tashi Ya, Flash.

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James Holden Tweaky, John Coney against.

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Yankee talk about the series.

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You can join us up phone down, talk about the series.

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Coming to.

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Now about the series.

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You know that song never gets old, Eric, It is.

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All in my head.

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Yeah, absolutely awesome.

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Guy's good evening.

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It's no end of twenty twenty twenty. Welcome to Truck

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Talking and Beyond. And this is episode six hundred and

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sixty three. Oh my god, I'm your most excellent hosts,

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Uncle Jim. And before we go too far, I want

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to introduce my Truksports and we have a plethora of

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people from Oregon, So let's start off with the toy guy.

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How are you doing tonight.

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Phone I'm doing well, Uncle Jim, And can you confirm

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something for me? This is episode six sixty three. And

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is it true what I read that in the backstage

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stuff that on episode six hundred and sixty six we're

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summoning the actual Lord of Darkness himself into you know,

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to appear in honor of six sixty six, we have

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anti Christ show?

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Is that right?

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That would be great studio?

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Yes, right, right.

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I just want to make sure I'm prepared, right, Okay,

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you know, get all the life insurance documents in order,

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stuff like that, so we've better get as.

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Much bang out of the night show as we Yeah,

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because they don't have one next week, right.

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That's right. Next week is signs giving here in the States,

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and I'll be in Massachusetts, so yeah, we want to

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be having a show next week. Unfortunately, Well, well we'll

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make tonight's show count. And also from Portland, do we

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have Eric? How you doing tonight?

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Eric?

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I am doing most excellently.

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Yeah.

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I actually had a pretty decent day. It's been a

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pretty decent week. One of those day weeks where I'm

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just like checking things off lists with which I find

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very satisfying. Big lists, but lots of checking, so you know, whatever,

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whatever that's worth. I cant talked about Star Trek tonight.

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So it's Friday, so you know that is always a

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good thing.

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And let's let's stick with our Portland crew and see

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how David's doing tonight. How are you doing, David?

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Well, I guess we could just find out what I'm

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thankful for?

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Are you?

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But it's something much better? Donuts? Pretty good. It's been

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really fun this week show. I've had a lot of

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fun putting this podcast together. And we'll see how everybody

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likes the the Slide Show show. Hopefully you guys enjoy it.

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Did you bring enough everybody slide shows.

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Going on?

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I guess I put him up and have that maybe.

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Put him in the mail over now, get it, get

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it home?

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The Homer Simpson not.

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From Portland but from Virginia.

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We have our own doing.

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All right? And the first Thanksgiving was actually here in

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Virginia and it was in December. So but that's what yeah,

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but yeah, so no, that's okay. It's you know, we're

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used to being, you know, shoved a side for everything else.

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But hey, I'll have to ask, did anybody watch the

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first installment of Ken Burns the American Revolution? Nope? All right, fine,

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failed the test? You did?

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You are?

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Yes?

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You are no, they just I haven't. I can't access

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PBS right now. Hopefully I can figure out a way

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to watch it. But anyway, just that colony Williamsburg figured

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you know, he did a lot of filming here. So

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that's my little that's my little plug for history and

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all that stuff.

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So yeah, well, speaking of Virginia, I'll share a little

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tid bit of history. Fort William Henry is up in

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Lake George, New York, where The Last and the Mohicans

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took place, the real Last of the Mohicans. And when

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they filmed the movie The Last Mohicans, rather than filming

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at the actual Fort William Henry, they filmed it in

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They built a fake fort in Virginia and blew it up.

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Yeah yeah, and Daniel jay Lewis was chef kissed not.

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We'll tell you this. Over the summer, they showed the

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movie at the fort and they had live reenactors reenacting

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the hall time as the movie was going on, and

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it was incredible. It was so much fun. I hope

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they do it again next year. But guess let's let's

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swing this big ball on to trek Talk and then beyond.

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And tonight's show we're going to be talking about the

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audio drama Star trek Con Episode eight, Original Sin. We

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also have our fans shout outs and that's where we

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go around and we say thanking the branch, just like

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you for supporting our podcast. How do we find out

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saying livelong and prosper asking where you're listening from. Just

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tell us where you're froming me some emojis. It gets

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name from yours, truly you want to tune into the

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next podcast because you're going to be immortalized forever. Out

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Trek poking. We also have our Star Trek Paul. This

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is an all the but a goodie Kirk Versus and

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Life Versus Spot and one of these are gonna turn

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out the way they usually do, you know, find out.

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We also have trivia with Uncle Jim and this week

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we're gonna do sci fi songs, parodies and music from movies.

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So it's gonna be fun. Nothing nothing outrageous, I promise

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you guys. It's all basic stuff, especially you David. Some

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real easy ones here and won't actor do you say

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a sci fi birthday? Let's find out on a sci

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fi birthdays and we have some really good birthdays to

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talk about. And what's going on on the Star Trek.

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We have some Star Trek news to dive deep into.

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So there you have the guys, what's going on tonight.

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And before we go, we always started up without shout outs,

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and we always have Eric start off with our fans

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shout outs. And you guys, I said, you guys can

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go to our Facebook page Truck Talking and Beyond and

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just tell us where you're from. Check out our fans

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shout out Eric take it away.

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Thanks man. I am so excited tonight to say hello, Hello,

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and thank you so much for saying hello to us.

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To Darren Bullock from Gloucester, England, if you were from Boston,

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you'd say Gloucester. But I believe if you're from England

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you say Gloucester.

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Right.

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Is that?

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Am I correct on that?

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We?

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Oh, because we have a Duke of Gloucester Street here

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in Williamsburg.

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And that's a new England thing. So is it Gloucester

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Glocester from Gloucester, England. Okay, so that's what That's what

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it's like up in the Boston area. Okay. Well, Darren

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Bullock from Gloucester, England, then thank you so much for

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saying hello to us and for letting us debate once

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again upon the simple yet somehow strangely difficult pronunciation of

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where you live. Hello as well this week to Jose

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Benito Jose Benito Hills from Alecante, Spain. Jose, thanks for

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saying hello to from Spain. I will admit I didn't

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look up where Alecante is. I'm going to do that

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after the podcast, though, because I like to see where

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people come from, and that sounds like a very unique

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and awesome place. Thanks Jose. Andrea Ciarlo is saying hello

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to us from Alessandria, Italy. Alessandria, Italy. Andrea from Alessandria.

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That's very nice. Thank you for saying hello to us

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this week. If we say hello right back to you,

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and live long and prosper to anybody who lives in

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that amazing country of Italy where all the great food

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and wine and places to see and history and all

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that stuff is. It's overwhelming for somebody who does still

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live there. I can't imagine what it's like to live there.

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And last, but not least, on my list, I'd like

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to say hello this week to Vanessa Madson, who hails

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from Auckland, New Zealand, sending us that little Live long

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and prosper emoji getting Jim's attention in cheap yet effective ways.

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Thanks Vanessa, you know us so well. David, who would

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you like to say hello to?

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Thank you? Eric.

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Yeah, so I would like to say hello and thank

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you to Don Staley from as she said, I live

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in Dulton, Dothan, Alabama, so that's nice. Next, ndlesh is

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thank you to Wyatt to Stone from Georgia. Give me

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us a live long and prosper and next onndlesh to

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a thank you for listening to Andrew Chu Tara, I

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think that's how you pronounce it from New Joji and

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lasts and thank you for listening. Is Athena Shea Bhutan

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from Oregon, USA. D who would you like Shiloh too?

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Well? I have a hello from Larry Stadler, who's from Calgary,

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Alberta of course in Canada, our wonderful neighbors to the north,

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So hello Larry. And then from Tacoma, Washington with two

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exclamation points Asammy Ray West, so hello back to you.

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And then Richard Lee Corto Posse from Bring Valley, California.

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And last, but certainly not least in my neck of

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the woods, Johnny Ray Petrie from Virginia. I wonder where

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in Virginia. All right, I'm sending this off to Paul.

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Thank you. We appreciate that. And again, we have not

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just Americans. We have global citizens who comprise our magical

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Star Trek family, folks living all over the planet who

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in various languages are enjoying Star Trek all the time.

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So let's give him some shout outs. First of all,

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we have our Palmelia Ludis from Kaiserslauten, Germany, busting out

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the hand sign there for us there. Thank you, Mela.

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I hope i'm pronouncing your name correctly. You could be

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may so I'm I'm still learning, friend, but so thanks

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for your patience. A little bit further over, we're going

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to go to Thessalonica in Greece, so we're going to

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say hello to our good friend Ionis Karagi Andidis, who

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we've heard from a few times in the past. It's

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always great to hear from you, Ionis, and I hope

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you are staying well and enjoying your temperate climate this

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time of year. In Deutschland, beautiful Deutschland is Sylvia Rupert

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is saying, how do you do to us today?

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So great to hear from our folks.

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And Germany, before you know it, all of the Christmas

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markets are going to start popping up. A great envy

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on my having a chance to enjoy those in Germany

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pretty spectacular. And then in Denmark flag proudly unfurled from

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tostrel It's Klaus oscar Ulin is saying hello to us

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as well. So see, friends, we have a lot in

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common with folks all over the planet. Let's not be

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insular and stuck in our own weird in bread vibes. Right,

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let's connect with people who speak other languages, what a shock,

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and of other cultures, and who have a history that

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goes back centuries, if not millennia, longer than ours. So

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I think it's good to be able to embrace our

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brethren across the globe, because if we don't, we may

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be in trouble. So it's good to know that we

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have that united starter.

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Enthusiasm to be the mortar that holds all of our bricks.

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Isn't that so, Uncle Jim.

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I couldn't have said it better myself. Paul absolutely agree.

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And continuing on, we're going to come back to the

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USFA and we're going to say hello and thank you

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to Cheryl s Howie who's listening to us in Flores Florence,

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South Carolina. Welcome Cheryl. We also want to say hello

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to Joseph Wing who's in Philadelphia, New York, USA, and

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Joey Dennis who's listening to us in Florida. Thank you, Joey.

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And last, but definitely not least, on my list, I

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want to say hello and thank you to Bruce Poland,

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who's listening to us in Boston, massive shoestts and that

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And now, guys, it's time for some fun. It's time

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for polling time.

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Colin Poplin poland you know me like no win what

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you thought about the show? When we try to share

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your opinions with all of our minions out there because

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they listen worldwide, So tell.

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Us just what you think.

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Get together we will alter Canara and Robylin Ale.

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Ton I that saw memes have an interesting conversation. And

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this week we don't have any dancy videos or anything,

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so it's just going to keep it simple. So Eric,

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what is our first poll question?

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All right?

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He hey, this is an age old question that I

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think has been asked thousands, if not millions of times

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throughout the years, but we wanted to ask our own

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band of Mary followers here, Kirk or Picard, who's a

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better captain? And you know, it changes throughout the years,

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it changes with what type of star trek we have on.

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I've just like noticed over the years the answers to

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this one just kind of fluctuated all over there. But

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right now, in twenty twenty five, seventy seven percent of

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our responders said that Picard was their guy, and only

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twenty three percent said that Kirk was their guy. So

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there you go, Kirk Pricard. Picard came out by heavy margin.

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I can't disagree. I appreciate I appreciate Kirk for sure,

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absolutely love his ways, love that they established the show

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with him and stuff. But like, if I'm thinking about

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who I would like to serve under, it's Picard.

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And oddly, if I remember correctly, Eric, you can correct

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me if I'm wrong. But every single time we have

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run this pole, it's always been Picard. I don't think

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Kirk has ever won when this pole in all the

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years we've been doing it.

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Yeah, I can remember probably at least three times that

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we've run this pole, and it's always like between fifty

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and seventy percent. The seventy seven percent might be a

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new high for Picard, but it's definitely uh usually a

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win for him. Yeah. Yeah, So you know, maybe if

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we were asking these questions twenty years ago, well actually

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that would have been the Heyday of cards. Just baller.

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I mean, come on, now.

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You know what's what's odd about it, too, is with

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the Calvin movies, you know, there's more more Kirks out there,

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and now you have you know, Kirk on Strange New Worlds,

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but it's still not enough to knock the card off

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that mantle. I don't know, it's it's a car.

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They haven't remade the card yet.

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That's true. Did you think they ever will?

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Oh? My god, I absolutely think they will. Uh yeah, someday.

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Yeah, someday the new next Generation.

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Or something, you know. I mean that's what they did

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in the comics, right, and it was like the Mutants,

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and then it was like the New Mutants, and it

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was like the next New Mutants, and you.

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Know, we're going to get our third incarnation of Kirk

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a Strange New World when they bring that out. So

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I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. We

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have to wait and see.

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What about you, Gosh, I think I have to go

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with Picard, And I think it's the I don't know,

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it's the accent that does it for me.

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Well, I don't think he would have been safe because

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Kirk was a ladies man.

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Yeah, which, yeah, And it's funny because I don't know,

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it's just it's just the way that uh, Patrick Stewart

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played Picard. You know, for the most part, there was

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a he just had a really quiet dignity about him.

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And I love how initially he was just kind of

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a jerk around children, uh, but then they wound up

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developing that side of him, so he was a little

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more you know, nice around children. So yeah, that's that's

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the real reason why Alexander didn't live on the Enterprise.

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It because the cart said, know, hold wharf.

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No.

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I got.

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No, he wasn't he was good.

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Well what about you?

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Well, the question isn't whether I would rather serve it,

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And the question is who's a better cap right, And

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I think that that's the lens I'd like to use

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to answer the question.

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And they're they're just very different. I don't like the

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competitiveness or the contrasting thing because it is so different.

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Right.

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So you know Kirk is very right break right. He's

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governed by his emotions, right, and that's very much you know,

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his paradigm where he comes from.

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Right.

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He represents a different era, right, more like you know

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you you're the last bastion of defense against the frontier. Right,

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So he's more in Originally Star Trek was designed wagon

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trained to the dogs, right, that was basically the concept.

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Right.

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And he's more like a Western character, right, He's like,

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you know, jump up there, take action.

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Action, action, action actions, right, and you know, when you.

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Know apocalypse is at your door, Kirk bluffs, right, he

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makes shit up, right, So I love that about him, right.

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I love that he goes and invents Korba Mike, he

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invents fizz Bin.

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Right.

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He's willing to just you know, lead by his emotions

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and hope that his imagination is enough to get him

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out of a tight spot. So I will I admire

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both of them. You know, I just have a long, rich,

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nostalgic history with the Kirk character, right, despite this horrific

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AI image of him that I'm looking at right now,

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which is just so so no good, we need a photograph.

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But yeah, I love Picard, I really do. But he's

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you know, more prudent, more cautious, more reserved. You know,

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I think that's great. So I like them both. I

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don't like to choose, so you cannot make me choose

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because I admire both of them for their respective strengths

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rather than their weaknesses.

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What about you, David, Yeah, I'm kind of in there

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with Paul there. I do respect them both, and now

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from different timelines and the fact that they have different personalities,

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they have different background or how they grew up and whatnot,

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I actually would have to say that, Yeah, I can't

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choose between the two because honestly, I think that to

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respect for the films that they went through and whatnot,

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I like them both. So yeah, I think I'm going

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to have to say both of them are good.

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I'm gonna go with the minions. I gotta go with Picard.

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Although Shatner did really have produce the best start Trek

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movie ever starts for five bomb, but you know, you know,

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every week.

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Well we are under half an hour when he mentioned

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that we're at twenty three minutes, so often, Yeah.

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I think last week you mentioned it like eleven.

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So wait, so what if we started to make a

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rule wherein Uncle Jim can only mention Star Trek five

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three times in a podcast and and we have to count.

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We need like a counter, So David, you have to

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invent a way to like count how many times?

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I think I think I could only say it three times.

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His head would probably splode.

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I get shut off after the fourth if he screws

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up and he mentions it more than three times. One

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of au in turn, gets to decide the content for

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next week's show. Yeah, exactly, you have to give something

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Jim has to surrenders.

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Yeah, yeah, like that. Liking this all right? I stand

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by listeners, and we've got another one. Well, I mean,

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if we're talking about captains, Jim, we might as well

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talk about first officers, right, And while there are many

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very excellent first officers out there, we are talking today

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about the same generations as those who we just talked about.

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Although our terrible AI image this time is of a

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Calvin Timeline spot, but.

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The images are from one.

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No, they're not. That's the Kelvin Timelines. Who's a better

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no no from Star Trek Online. That's interesting Okay, So

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who's a better first officer? Riker or Spock? And I

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must say I am very surprised by this one. Fifty

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four percent of our responders said Riker and forty six

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percent said Spock. And I would have expected that to

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be tipped quite a bit in the other direction myself.

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I feel like that's the way these polls typically go,

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so we should talk about that. But yeah, Riker versus Spock,

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So who is a better first officer? So I have

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to ask myself, what's the duty of a first officer?

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You are there to execute the commands of the of

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the captain because first officer also means XO in the

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case of Star Trek, so you're you're executing commit but

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you're also questioning, you know, being the conscience of the captain.

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So who is a better sort of pair? I guess

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to their captain it would be one way that I

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would look at it. And I have to say, for me,

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it's it's absolutely Kirk and Spock man like they're just

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like on the level together. I really like Riker's character

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and he's one of my favorite characters in all of

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Star Trek, literally, but I think that Spock is a

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pretty banger first officer. I mean, this guy is science,

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he's like great in command. He he's just a full package.

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So yeah, I would say Spock for me.

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I think that Riker would have made a great first

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officer for Kirk. I think because right, you know, I

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think Ker would have been Do you think.

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They're too similar?

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Yeah, I mean the opposite of each other. You need

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your opposite to write, to bounce ideas off of. You

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can't have yourself. Yeah, good idea, Jim, You're right, it

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was a good idea. That's no good you know, you

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need to be a reflection of the other person. I'll

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say more about that one.

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Oh yeah, Spock and Picard together. Can you imagine that one.

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Spot? Spot does like bourbon and bees? So that's that's

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a plus.

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Record.

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That's another.

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Said I said nothing, Yeah, you said volume. You spoke

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uncle one of these days of the head.

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Uh, how about you?

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Oh my god, I just well, I talk about Yeah,

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sounds like a lethal comfromation. Yeah yeah, I they both Yeah,

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at this this time, I can't picture just one because

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they both have their incredible qualities. So I would Yeah,

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I don't. I can't. I can't choose. I'm pretty much,

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you know, half and half. Let's uh, I mean, let's

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let's uh give homage to if I wish we could

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give homage to rec cards. I was just trying to say,

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put card Riker and his infamous Riker maneuver.

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So there is no spot maneuver, no.

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Not except well the nerve pinched, but you know that's

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not really a maneuver, right so yep.

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Well, well, and what's interesting is that that is the

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Riker maneuver. And then uh so we used to talk

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about the game Star Trek Attack Wing and there is

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a card for the Riker maneuver, but it's not for

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putting your leg over a chair. It's for that situ

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suation where Riker takes over the enterprise with the joystick

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through the cloud in an uh inscription.

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Anyway, putting your leg over the that would be kind.

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Video. Eric and I did a presentation of podcasting at

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ROGA and I demonstrated the writer maneuver.

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There were a lot of cheers. I must say, people

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really respect a well executed Riker maneuver, especially from a

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guy who kind of looks like him when he wears

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a regular form.

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Are you saying that you think is that what I'm hearing.

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I'm saying that when I put on my uniform that

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I like to wear places, people go Riker, and I'm.

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Like, really, yeah, really, even though I.

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Wear Actually, like, if you get into the nitty girt,

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you can tell who the real fans are because only

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certain fans recognize that I like to wear the Discovery

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era badge over my TNNG uniform. I sort of mix

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and match, which doesn't bug me. It's kind of like

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the fan films, you know, the Avalon Universe stuff, where

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they mix and match all that different stuff. Anyway, I

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digress spot.

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I think that you know, you, you would want your

486
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:36.759
first officer to be different from you, not a reflection

487
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.279
of you, right, you know, you want somebody who's your

488
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:43.799
polar opposite to be able to uh keep you in check,

489
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.279
right and avoid blind spots. So you want somebody who

490
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.640
see things differently from you. And uh, you know, sorry,

491
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:56.480
Riker loses. Stepping over a chair is not really something

492
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:59.359
I would put on my CVS. Like, I'm good at

493
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.880
doing this, right, it's just plus. So I'm taking that

494
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.319
plays a trombone too, dude, That is a minus. I

495
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.799
was just gonna say, that's a deficit. That trombone is

496
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.119
a horrific instrument. So it's just like sorry trombone players.

497
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.599
But it's just that first season was the trombone was ubiquitous.

498
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.559
I mean I almost stopped watching the show because it

499
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:20.039
was that Minionet. What about the fuck was her name?

500
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:21.480
Minuonet Minuet?

501
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:24.279
In one episode, I wanted to die. Oh what a

502
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.559
horrible character. It was just like it was just the worst.

503
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.079
It was terrible. I almost quit watching the show because

504
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:31.839
it was just I was like, this is like I'm

505
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:35.279
getting diabetes from watching this. I mean, this is just abomination.

506
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.279
So gotta go Stock all the way. I mean, just

507
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:40.640
Spock was the best man. It's just like, you know,

508
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:43.720
because okay, let's go on evidence. What's the number one

509
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:47.559
most important thing, right, if the captain is incapacitated, who's

510
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.319
in command? Okay, it is it is the first officer.

511
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.519
And Spock is a badass when he's in command. Okay.51200:31:54.640 --> 00:31:55.960



Riker, I don't know, not.51300:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.319



So much, right. He's kind of like whoa to, kind51400:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.799



of like staunch and humorless and and not very convincing.51500:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.440



I love the character of Riker, just not a really51600:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.799



good commander. I think it's a reason he didn't really ever,51700:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.319



you know, take a command who's own shrimp if you51800:32:13.359 --> 00:32:13.960



know what I'm saying.51900:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.039



Because in movie Sore you supposed to be good.52000:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.799



Spock though, is just a natural leader and uh, you know,52100:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.960



and if you're staring down the photon torpedo tubes, if52200:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.519



you're Nemesis. Not reference to the movie, which I don't52300:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.920



care for, but uh, your Spock is gonna get shipped52400:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.079



downe and he's going to be you know, he's a52500:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.440



force to contend with. So I'm going with team Spock52600:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.640



all the way, no offense.52700:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.519



Riker, we love you, but but that's in the big chair.52800:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.359



I'm going with Spot right has got the beard though,52900:32:50.200 --> 00:32:58.039



that's another deficit. Sorry, you know, team you know, how53000:32:58.039 --> 00:32:59.279



about your David, what do you think?53100:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.119



Well, you guy made some really excellent points. Again, I'm53200:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.039



probably gonna have to go with both. Uh, they both53300:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.960



after admit they both had a rough beginning. You know, Riker,53400:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.759



when he first came on board the Enterprise, he almost53500:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.759



didn't look like he knew where everything bog after. But53600:33:17.839 --> 00:33:20.680



you know, as he grew he got better. Same thing53700:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.880



as back when we first saw back on TV. You know,53800:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.880



he laughed. It freaked out Boimler. So, I mean, to53900:33:27.039 --> 00:33:32.519



be honest, the idea that who's your better first officer.54000:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.279



I think they're both good in their own right back.54100:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.960



Of course, you know, he lived longer than Rikers, so54200:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.799



he probably had more experience if you're going through the timeline.54300:33:41.839 --> 00:33:45.240



But other than that, yeah, I would have to say both.54400:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.000



I'm gonna go with both of them.54500:33:48.160 --> 00:33:52.599



I mean, did upon the board and try to kill54600:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.359



the best of both worlds, and Brichel did go on54700:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.759



the ship and sleep with Klingon went well and over54800:33:59.799 --> 00:34:06.160



the actually did that or not? But he did, he54900:34:06.240 --> 00:34:16.199



pulled the yeah, so that yeah, I gotta be a55000:34:16.360 --> 00:34:20.920



like guy. He was dark ef he got the beer.55100:34:21.719 --> 00:34:25.760



I think the beer just made him so much better,55200:34:26.519 --> 00:34:31.719



so much better with the beer. Ah, guys. So that's55300:34:31.880 --> 00:34:39.719



that's a whole conversation. And now I gotta get it there.55400:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.800



Now it's time for some fun, some real fun. So55500:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.159



I gotta find the song.55600:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.400



There it is, yes, and you know what that music means.55700:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.360



It's once again time to put on your thinking caps55800:34:52.360 --> 00:34:58.400



and join us for Star Trek trivia time with Uncle Jim.55900:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.599



All right, So, so this week I decided to do56000:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.880



something a little bit different, and we are going to56100:35:05.000 --> 00:35:10.719



do movie music that's either inspired by or featured in56200:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.800



a movie, and these include parodies as well. Now this56300:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.800



first Charles is not with us, so and I try56400:35:18.840 --> 00:35:25.760



to tailor my questions to the to the co host themselves.56500:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.760



So Charles isn't here, So I'm going to have to56600:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.760



defer this one to Eric because he would be our56700:35:32.800 --> 00:35:39.199



next closest fan. So Doctor Who has been around as56800:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.800



long as Star Trek. In nineteen eighty eight, a British56900:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.760



group known as kl after Time Lord has released this57000:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.480



novel of the song based on Doctor Who that saw57100:35:49.639 --> 00:35:54.039



to number one on the British music charts. What was57200:35:54.039 --> 00:35:55.280



the name of that song?57300:35:56.880 --> 00:35:58.519



What if I can sing it? I just don't know57400:35:58.519 --> 00:36:09.360



that it is that the song. I just don't know57500:36:09.400 --> 00:36:14.159



who sings it. I really, Oh, you said, Calef time wers.57600:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.639



So is the song is called Doctor Who?57700:36:18.800 --> 00:36:21.079



It's called the Doctor and the Tardest.57800:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.480



Okay, okay, but that is, yeah, doctor.57900:36:27.679 --> 00:36:33.119



Doctor, the one. I figured Charles would know that one,58000:36:33.159 --> 00:36:34.079



because he's a huge doctor.58100:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.360



He probably would have known that one.58200:36:35.440 --> 00:36:39.559



Yeah, absolutely, And I defaulted to you, Charles.58300:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.840



I tried, I at least knew the song, You.58400:36:42.840 --> 00:36:46.119



Did know the song? Yes, and you're going to get58500:36:46.119 --> 00:36:52.079



the next question. Oh cool, Yeah and yes. In nineteen58600:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.400



ninety seven, the movie Men in Black hit the big58700:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.039



screen and was a huge summer hit. It was accompanied58800:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.119



by a number one hit single named the song and58900:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.199



the anist that performed and you can actually you can59000:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.360



actually sing it for as if you'd like, because you59100:37:05.440 --> 00:37:06.440



did well.59200:37:09.000 --> 00:37:15.840



Glaxy defend us he come meaning back.59300:37:17.960 --> 00:37:18.400



Something.59400:37:19.599 --> 00:37:28.559



But yeah, so so that was actually uh mister Willsmith59500:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.679



himself who did that that song. I think the song59600:37:32.719 --> 00:37:34.760



is just called men in Black. I'm guessing.59700:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.719



Yeah. That was his first singer after he left DJ59800:37:38.880 --> 00:37:39.800



jazz Jeff.59900:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.760



Oh, DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prinds.60000:37:43.960 --> 00:37:49.639



I just don't understand you that no, so there, Yeah,60100:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.960



so I told you you guys are doing good now.60200:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.400



It's not only going to swing to pa. I didn't60300:37:56.440 --> 00:38:00.039



know who else to ask this question to, so I60400:38:00.039 --> 00:38:03.760



fall fit to Paul because I was the co hosts,60500:38:03.760 --> 00:38:06.920



he'd be the one that might know it. In nineteen60600:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.039



eighty two, The Extraterrestrial Bulk Records, becoming the biggest film60700:38:12.199 --> 00:38:16.639



of the year. This song was not featured in the film,60800:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.599



but was inspired by the film. The song reached number60900:38:20.639 --> 00:38:24.199



five on the bill. Birchars Here in the US named61000:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.480



the song and the artists.61100:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.000



Oh that's easy.61200:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.440



Brother. Absolutely wasn't actually in the movie.61300:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.519



It was not, but it was kind of inspired by it.61400:38:32.599 --> 00:38:32.719



Right.61500:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.880



So we're talking about heart Light or turn on Your61600:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.039



heart Light by the fabulous Neil Diamond.61700:38:38.519 --> 00:38:42.239



Oh yeah, okay, I knew Paul would be I knew61800:38:42.239 --> 00:38:42.960



you would know that one.61900:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.719



Oh yeah, because it was on the radio all the time.62000:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.079



It was you know, I'm a big Neil Diamond fan.62100:38:47.760 --> 00:38:49.760



Not one of his best songs, but you know, it's62200:38:49.800 --> 00:38:51.480



just the thing. You can always count on me to62300:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.000



be candid, right, I mean, you know, otherwise he might62400:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.119



think I was abducted and replaced by a pod person,62500:38:56.199 --> 00:38:59.039



right if I started being you know, giving you bullshit.62600:38:59.199 --> 00:39:03.679



So no bullshit, but love Neil Diamond. But yeah, so yeah,62700:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.000



Neil Diamond, there you go. Can I just say this62800:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.280



is my favorite segment? You invested brought this up, Uncle Jim.62900:39:12.360 --> 00:39:14.599



The trivia is just the best. I love this segment.63000:39:14.639 --> 00:39:15.199



It's so fun.63100:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.599



I try to be different each week. So that's good. Now,63200:39:24.920 --> 00:39:31.239



please don't disappoint me I know you're gonna get this one. Okay,63300:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.119



not to put the pleasure on you, but you didn't63400:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.840



get this last one last time I asked it, So63500:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.239



this is the second time. You better get this one.63600:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.280



Whoare serstential clue? Substantial clue?63700:39:44.480 --> 00:39:48.400



All right, there's lots of clues here. If you don't63800:39:48.400 --> 00:39:55.480



get this one, I don't know you want that. I63900:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.000



can do everything but give you the answer in the question.64000:39:58.119 --> 00:40:02.599



Here we go. In Night Team eight, Sam Jones played64100:40:02.599 --> 00:40:06.559



the lead role of Flash Gordon in the cult favorite film.64200:40:06.840 --> 00:40:10.559



This single hit number ten on the charts and featured64300:40:10.599 --> 00:40:15.000



dialogue from the movie, including name blessed as Prince Balltan64400:40:15.119 --> 00:40:21.519



saying what name the song? And the group that performed it? Now, David,64500:40:21.559 --> 00:40:22.519



don't let me down.64600:40:23.360 --> 00:40:29.960



All right, hold on, I gotta google it. I asked you.64700:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.800



The same question four weeks ago.64800:40:33.320 --> 00:40:36.599



Oh no, I completely forgot what That answer A way64900:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.280



cramp the question.65000:40:39.679 --> 00:40:45.440



Probably the answers in the question. All right, show, oh man,65100:40:46.719 --> 00:40:48.079



Let's start with the name of the song.65200:40:48.679 --> 00:40:52.480



Okay, the name of the song is Flash Gordon.65300:40:55.639 --> 00:41:00.880



There you got half of it, like sing it while65400:41:00.920 --> 00:41:01.480



you think.65500:41:03.039 --> 00:41:03.639



It's God.65600:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.679



I'll keep saying it until you tell the answer.65700:41:08.320 --> 00:41:14.159



People what I do around the whole day. They can't65800:41:14.159 --> 00:41:15.280



get it out of their heads.65900:41:16.360 --> 00:41:17.760



I have no idea?66000:41:17.800 --> 00:41:22.760



Who yes you you said you had no idea last time,66100:41:23.400 --> 00:41:24.320



and you did.66200:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.079



I am that good with song.66300:41:28.840 --> 00:41:32.599



Lash ah.66400:41:32.679 --> 00:41:36.400



Yeah, I'm probably gonna when I hear the answer.66500:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.800



Why You're thinking a little question is actually two versions66600:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.000



of this song. There's the hit single that was on66700:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.599



the radio, which used audio from the actual movie including66800:41:46.599 --> 00:41:50.199



Brian Blessed. And then there's the actual single version which66900:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.320



is in the movie which plays at the beginning of67000:41:52.320 --> 00:41:56.320



the movie, which doesn't have the audio clips from the movie.67100:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.840



So have you have you pulled the answer out of67200:41:59.840 --> 00:42:08.960



your proverbial but Eric save him.67300:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.960



The band my friend is a band that you should67400:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.599



listen to many many times in your life. It's Queen67500:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.480



Queen Ah.67600:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.679



I thought I remember.67700:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.199



And also the album or as George de Kay would say, Queen.67800:42:37.199 --> 00:42:42.119



Yeah. I knew that because I saw that move I67900:42:42.159 --> 00:42:44.199



went to the I saw that movie in the movie68000:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.519



theater and it was just absolutely great. And then Sam68100:42:47.599 --> 00:42:54.000



Jones would go on to play that bounty hunter in68200:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.079



d S nine so and he was also on I68300:42:59.119 --> 00:43:05.159



think an episode of Stargate SG oneg.68400:43:03.159 --> 00:43:05.239



One yep, Yeah, that's right.68500:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.159



The well you're going to the next one, right, boy.68600:43:09.519 --> 00:43:13.480



Remember I did say that some of these songs are68700:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.079



not featured in the movie. They could be a parody68800:43:16.119 --> 00:43:20.159



that's you know, inspired by the film. So bear that68900:43:20.320 --> 00:43:20.760



in mind.69000:43:20.840 --> 00:43:22.199



Okay, okay.69100:43:22.920 --> 00:43:26.079



In nineteen ninety nine, Star Wars returns to the big69200:43:26.119 --> 00:43:30.400



screen with Star Wars Episode one, The Phantom Menace. Although69300:43:30.440 --> 00:43:35.039



not featured in the movie, this song parodies Don McLean's69400:43:35.119 --> 00:43:39.519



American Pie, with lyrics actually summarizing the plot of the69500:43:39.559 --> 00:43:43.199



film through the point of Obi Wan Kenobi. The song69600:43:43.239 --> 00:43:46.800



would peak at number twenty on the US bill Hord charts.69700:43:47.159 --> 00:43:52.440



Named the song and the artist.69800:43:49.519 --> 00:43:55.639



That weird ol and it was weird yep, and it69900:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.400



was God. Now the song, the name of the song,70000:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.920



this went out of my head. Cousin is five, No,70100:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.039



my my, this here Anakin guy maybe later now he's70200:44:07.159 --> 00:44:12.280



just a small pride. Yeah, but it was shoot, it70300:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.760



was something yeah.70400:44:16.159 --> 00:44:17.239



The day that I die.70500:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.480



Yeah, I know the name the name of it is70600:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.199



because I know it was like a two parter. It70700:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.239



had the name of it and then it's the saga70800:44:25.360 --> 00:44:35.079



continues or something like that in parentheses yep mm hmm.70900:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.559



Okay, So this one was for Charles, but he's not here,71000:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.800



So I'm going to go back to David and give71100:44:42.880 --> 00:44:47.559



him a chance to redeem himself. Oh now, I'm not71200:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.440



going to go to David because I don't think Will71300:44:52.480 --> 00:44:57.679



know this one. All right, lady, the names actually David.71400:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.039



If you know it before Paul does, just scream up71500:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.039



the answer. But I think this is a pop question. Okay,71600:45:04.519 --> 00:45:10.440



be rof, I could be rof Okay. In nineteen seventy seven,71700:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.360



Star Wars blasted its way to the top of the71800:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.159



box office. This song used sound effects from the movie71900:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.639



and it was a disco version of John Williams orchestra score.72000:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.880



Like the movie. The single went to number one on72100:45:23.960 --> 00:45:28.800



the US Billboard charts. Named the song and the artist, and.72200:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.760



It was just called Disco star Wars. It was a72300:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.719



band called Migo, that's right.72400:45:35.440 --> 00:45:40.800



It was called Star Wars slash canteena band but yeah,72500:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.679



but it's me right, yeah, yep, by Migo.72600:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.559



That's right. They actually did an Empire Strikes Back version72700:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.000



and the Return of the Jedi version, and by that72800:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.320



time Disco was dead and Miko died with it. That's72900:45:55.360 --> 00:45:56.280



a pretty cool song.73000:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.480



Yeah, I think I had I had that at some73100:45:59.559 --> 00:46:00.280



point time.73200:46:01.199 --> 00:46:05.199



Yeah, very popular. Great album cover too, It was very cool.73300:46:08.360 --> 00:46:10.599



Act if you if you look, if you look at73400:46:10.639 --> 00:46:12.559



the album, Ko did a bunch of songs he did73500:46:12.679 --> 00:46:17.119



post Encounters, there's a bunch of disco songs of movies73600:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.440



that they did. But Star Wars Canteen the band was73700:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.639



their only number one. All Right, we're gonna swing back73800:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.440



to Eric. Okay, get ready? All right? Speaking of Star Wars,73900:46:27.440 --> 00:46:31.960



sticking with that Vein. This nineteen eighty five song is74000:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.800



a parody of the song Lola by The Kings, inspired74100:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.559



by the events of the movie The Empire Strikes Back.74200:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.079



The song twilled from the point of view of a74300:46:41.199 --> 00:46:45.840



Jedi in training, Luke Skywalker. What is the name of74400:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.320



the artist? And the song.74500:46:49.639 --> 00:46:53.519



That is also by the parody master weird Al and74600:46:53.559 --> 00:46:56.239



I believe the song is yod Up.74700:47:06.079 --> 00:47:15.880



I'm okay a hundred other than David, but we'll give74800:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.119



him a s the next time because I'm going to74900:47:20.239 --> 00:47:21.039



ask him again.75000:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.599



Okay, all right, v are you ready?75100:47:25.760 --> 00:47:26.079



Sure?75200:47:27.639 --> 00:47:28.159



Al right?75300:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.840



In nineteen eighty five, Back to the Future was the75400:47:31.920 --> 00:47:34.800



number one box office hit of the summer. It was75500:47:34.840 --> 00:47:38.400



accompanied by a number one single, I Have the Hottest75600:47:38.440 --> 00:47:41.199



Group of the Time. The song is featured in The75700:47:41.280 --> 00:47:45.280



Fell when Marty Ry's escapeboard through town. A hard Hot75800:47:45.480 --> 00:47:48.079



version is also heard there in the Battle of the75900:47:48.119 --> 00:47:52.360



Band scene with the pinhead named the song and.76000:47:52.239 --> 00:47:57.199



The group Huey Lewis and the news and yep, that's76100:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.360



right the song. What is the name of the song?76200:48:00.519 --> 00:48:07.599



Dang it? Uh, that's my brain is just not firing76300:48:07.639 --> 00:48:13.800



its cylinders tonight. I hear it. I don't remember, but76400:48:13.840 --> 00:48:18.639



I knew it. Yeah, yeah, it was the easy No, no,76500:48:20.079 --> 00:48:20.719



what was it?76600:48:20.840 --> 00:48:20.920



Was?76700:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.559



It back and it wasn't back to the future. It76800:48:23.559 --> 00:48:24.039



would be.76900:48:23.920 --> 00:48:28.039



Because in the future there was two songs. The one77000:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.800



of them was back in Time, okay, and this and77100:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.159



then and then there was this one. This one actually77200:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.199



went to number one back in time, in the top ten,77300:48:35.239 --> 00:48:36.159



but not number one.77400:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.840



God, I just don't remember the name of it. Martine77500:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.679



McFly rides.77600:48:44.519 --> 00:48:52.239



David knows that. David, then he knows what it is.77700:48:53.599 --> 00:48:54.760



So you don't want back in time?77800:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.599



You went to the other one, you feel you feel.77900:49:00.559 --> 00:49:12.599



Okay, God, I knew that in my head. I knew, really.78000:49:12.440 --> 00:49:17.679



Are that song has a great bridge where it's like78100:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.199



they say that only.78200:49:23.119 --> 00:49:29.320



The right Yeah, that would be great.78300:49:30.239 --> 00:49:33.000



There you go tonight, and I'm going to swing back78400:49:33.039 --> 00:49:36.800



to you and and give you another opportunity to redeem yourself.78500:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.679



And dude, I swear to God if you if you didn't,78600:49:42.079 --> 00:49:47.679



we still have. This one cannot be any easier. I78700:49:48.199 --> 00:49:52.360



thought Flash was easy, but this one is even easier.78800:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.079



Than I've never actually seen Flash.78900:49:57.039 --> 00:50:01.039



This one is so easy, it's just a okay. In79000:50:01.159 --> 00:50:06.079



nineteen eighty four, Ghostbusters haunted the movie theaters and became79100:50:06.119 --> 00:50:09.960



the number one box opposite of the Summer. The theme79200:50:10.119 --> 00:50:13.719



song that accompanied the movie also possessed the number one79300:50:13.760 --> 00:50:18.039



spot for four consecutive weeks on the Billboard charts. Name79400:50:18.199 --> 00:50:21.800



the song and the artist the song part should be79500:50:21.840 --> 00:50:22.320



real easy.79600:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.280



Yeah, so I know. The song name is who are79700:50:25.280 --> 00:50:25.679



You Gonna Call?79800:50:25.840 --> 00:50:26.000



Right?79900:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.199



Is that the title of the.80000:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.199



Title of the song. It's it's a lyric.80100:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.760



That's a lyric in the song of the name of80200:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.639



the movie. Is the name of the movie is Ghostbusters?80300:50:40.400 --> 00:50:40.679



Yeah?80400:50:41.559 --> 00:50:46.960



So okay, there it stands to reason, might not really good.80500:50:46.800 --> 00:50:50.400



With the music named and try guys.80600:50:50.079 --> 00:50:53.000



But but if something was named Ghostbusters and was gonna80700:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.519



have a song named after it. They might name it.80800:50:55.920 --> 00:51:10.000



Ghost Well that was that was those Busters.80900:51:10.079 --> 00:51:11.519



Well it's not going to be it's going to be81000:51:11.840 --> 00:51:15.320



a David. Yeah, I am du say it.81100:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.679



There are four lights I might have.81200:51:20.679 --> 00:51:21.679



I actually don't know.81300:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.000



It's Ghostbusters.81400:51:23.039 --> 00:51:27.000



Okay, well I'll give you this movie was the Final81500:51:27.039 --> 00:51:32.519



Frontier when they were on the camps. Oh who are81600:51:32.559 --> 00:51:39.719



you both? Absolutely? You want you want to pull David?81700:51:40.480 --> 00:51:40.880



Uh?81800:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.119



What was am I trying to answer?81900:51:44.039 --> 00:51:44.360



Sorry?82000:51:46.679 --> 00:51:52.000



Yeah, it was well it was Ghostbusters and it was God,82100:51:52.079 --> 00:51:56.599



why am I boot blan King so badly? Because I82200:51:56.960 --> 00:52:03.079



saw that in the movie Theater two h Zuel and82300:52:03.159 --> 00:52:11.320



the Stave Huff Marshall, marshmallow man, that would be it was.82400:52:11.440 --> 00:52:16.400



I couldn't see them. Ah man, I clearly have not82500:52:16.519 --> 00:52:17.840



had enough caffeine today.82600:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.480



I can't think of another song by this guy to82700:52:20.519 --> 00:52:20.880



give you.82800:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.599



Actually wonder, I think.82900:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.039



But he did. He did. He did a song called83000:52:29.079 --> 00:52:34.599



I'm in Love with the Other Woman. Oh right, but83100:52:34.639 --> 00:52:39.599



that didn't Chuck, I mean Ghostbusters is the song? Paul,83200:52:40.000 --> 00:52:40.679



you know what it is?83300:52:42.400 --> 00:52:43.840



It's Ray Parker Jr.83400:52:46.719 --> 00:52:48.880



Yep. Ray Parker, Yeah.83500:52:48.679 --> 00:52:50.280



Okay, yep, yep.83600:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.920



Remember the video on TV had pretty much everybody who83700:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.400



was anybody in the movies at that time. I think83800:52:57.920 --> 00:53:05.239



everybody was in that video at some point. Ready, we're83900:53:05.239 --> 00:53:09.679



gonna go way back to nineteen eighty eight, all right.84000:53:11.119 --> 00:53:14.239



In nineteen eighty eight, Nightmare Elm Street part for the84100:53:14.360 --> 00:53:17.840



dream Masters sliced its way to the movie theaters. The84200:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.280



song was released as a single in early nineteen eighty eight,84300:53:21.320 --> 00:53:25.199



and it reached number fifteen on the Billboard charts. The84400:53:25.280 --> 00:53:29.400



song numerously describes an encounter with the horror villain Freddy84500:53:29.480 --> 00:53:35.039



Krueger named the song and the artist. This was a84600:53:35.079 --> 00:53:37.440



little bit of a deep dive, and it's like, I'll84700:53:37.480 --> 00:53:38.000



do it at you.84800:53:38.960 --> 00:53:40.119



Yeah, is it Freddy?84900:53:40.199 --> 00:53:41.400



Is there might deep dive guy?85000:53:42.119 --> 00:53:43.519



Is it Freddy's dead?85100:53:46.920 --> 00:53:50.960



No? No, but you're a big Elm Street guy.85200:53:50.960 --> 00:53:52.320



I'm gonna be honest Elm Street.85300:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.679



I'll give you. I'll give you a giant hint. I'll85400:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.360



give you a huge hint. We already talked about this85500:53:58.400 --> 00:54:03.599



guy in a previous question. Yeah, the band anyways.85600:54:03.320 --> 00:54:05.599



Yeah, it's just not my jam.85700:54:05.880 --> 00:54:10.599



Yeah. The slash.85800:54:10.159 --> 00:54:13.760



Uh Will Smith? Is that what I'm hearing? Is it85900:54:13.800 --> 00:54:14.360



Will Smith?86000:54:14.360 --> 00:54:18.360



And I don't Yeah, it was it was DJ Jazzy86100:54:18.440 --> 00:54:21.440



Jeff at the time, because he hadn't gone solo yet.86200:54:21.519 --> 00:54:26.559



For Black it was Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Fresh Print.86300:54:27.800 --> 00:54:34.960



The song was there on my street, Okay, vaguely remember that.86400:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.320



Yeah, it's just not my area of expertise.86500:54:37.360 --> 00:54:42.400



Si mm hmm. Yeah, Well I got a bonus song86600:54:42.480 --> 00:54:47.760



here that that I'm gonna throw out everybody whoever wants86700:54:47.800 --> 00:54:52.400



to grab this one is actually I'm gonna I'm gonna David.86800:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.119



He's got to redeem himself here.86900:54:54.559 --> 00:54:58.719



Okay, weakness, this is my kryptonite.87000:55:00.159 --> 00:55:05.519



This is but this is a Star Trek question. Okay,87100:55:06.159 --> 00:55:11.360



all right, okay, you're ready. A British novelty song that87200:55:11.480 --> 00:55:15.719



Perry's the original Star Trek TV series, and prominently features87300:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.559



comical voice characatures of the Star Trek characters. It was87400:55:19.599 --> 00:55:23.719



released in nineteen eighty seven and reached number one on87500:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.519



the British charts and was heavily featured on The Doctor87600:55:27.599 --> 00:55:32.280



Dementia Show. Can you name the song and name the band?87700:55:33.440 --> 00:55:36.159



Forget the band. I'll tell you the band, okay, but87800:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.440



I want you to tell me the song. The band87900:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.920



was the firm they did the song? What was the88000:55:42.000 --> 00:55:44.440



name of the song. It's a Star Trek parody song88100:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.360



based on tos.88200:55:49.760 --> 00:55:59.079



Oh man I the song. When I listen to songs,88300:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.199



I don't really look at the names in the titles of.88400:56:03.480 --> 00:56:07.920



This one. Yeah, this one's not exactly I mean, I88500:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.840



don't think it's a way out, not like the Freddy88600:56:10.880 --> 00:56:12.280



Krueger when I asked Paul and.88700:56:12.239 --> 00:56:14.599



They have they have a video to go with it88800:56:14.679 --> 00:56:17.880



that's really cheesy but hilarious.88900:56:17.920 --> 00:56:21.320



So yes, it's a little like a claymation.89000:56:24.320 --> 00:56:25.159



Maybe I've never seen it.89100:56:29.880 --> 00:56:44.079



Yeah, yeah, there's on the scum break them off, Jim.89200:56:45.920 --> 00:56:46.199



I know.89300:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.519



Yeah, this is a little I don't know what.89400:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.719



Across the universe going forward because we can't find reverse.89500:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.239



Yeah, reverse.89600:57:02.920 --> 00:57:06.719



So much Doctor Demento I listened to. I'm surprised you89700:57:06.760 --> 00:57:12.320



didn't bring up Leonard de Mooy's infamous Bilbo the Ballad89800:57:12.320 --> 00:57:13.400



of Bilbo Baggins.89900:57:14.079 --> 00:57:18.320



Yeah, I was this close. I didn't think anyone.90000:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.320



Yeah, I do remember that one.90100:57:21.880 --> 00:57:22.800



Yeah, that was.90200:57:25.679 --> 00:57:28.119



The deepest time that I pulled out was the DJ90300:57:28.280 --> 00:57:34.519



Jazzy Jeff all the other ones. I thought, we're pretty easy, David.90400:57:37.880 --> 00:57:45.599



Wow, way to wait a shame, we do.90500:57:45.239 --> 00:57:48.199



For sure, wait until you see the slide show he90600:57:48.280 --> 00:57:49.039



put together for you.90700:57:49.480 --> 00:57:53.880



Okay, okay, guys, uh with Uncle Jim.90800:57:54.079 --> 00:57:57.519



You have fun coming up with questions, and I hope90900:57:57.519 --> 00:58:01.119



you guys had had fun talk not all these great.91000:58:03.760 --> 00:58:10.760



Paul got. Yeah. No, that's memory Lane because I saw that,91100:58:10.840 --> 00:58:14.920



you know, those movies in the movie theater and when91200:58:14.920 --> 00:58:16.079



I actually had a life.91300:58:16.119 --> 00:58:22.159



So yeah, those many years ago, yes, those many.91400:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.519



Many yeah, I listened to that's where doctor the Mendos.91500:58:25.679 --> 00:58:27.360



I've discovered we're ow too.91600:58:29.079 --> 00:58:32.480



Yes, it was my ballooney. I think another one.91700:58:34.119 --> 00:58:34.400



M h.91800:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.639



We're going to talk about the audio drama Star trek91900:58:39.760 --> 00:58:44.400



Han episode Original Sin, which means I'm going to hand92000:58:44.440 --> 00:58:47.000



the microphone right over to Paul and he's gonna give92100:58:47.039 --> 00:58:49.840



us a quick run down synopsis. Then we're going to92200:58:49.960 --> 00:58:50.519



dive right in.92300:58:52.119 --> 00:58:53.760



Guys. I just want to make sure you can hear me, okay,92400:58:53.760 --> 00:58:55.199



because I got battered off.92500:58:55.079 --> 00:58:55.519



A minute ago.92600:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.519



So we've been at this for weeks, all right, We92700:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.679



have been at this for weeks, diving into the audio92800:59:02.800 --> 00:59:04.760



drama that is Star trek Con and we have reached92900:59:04.800 --> 00:59:09.599



episode eight. So we're at the penultimate episode right the93000:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.119



next week, well not next week is it's Thanksgiving, but93100:59:12.360 --> 00:59:14.840



we're right on the cusp of getting to the end93200:59:14.880 --> 00:59:18.559



of this thing. The last episode here tonight before the finale,93300:59:18.639 --> 00:59:24.039



which is original Sin. So this is an interesting episode, right,93400:59:24.119 --> 00:59:26.440



and we learned some big things in this episode.93500:59:26.639 --> 00:59:26.800



Right.93600:59:27.880 --> 00:59:31.079



We start off in the you know, the Sulu if93700:59:31.079 --> 00:59:35.280



you will timeline with doctor Lear. She's reviewing the logs, right,93800:59:35.440 --> 00:59:40.280



and she's seeing inconsistencies, right, and we start realizing that93900:59:40.360 --> 00:59:44.280



at this point Cohn and the Augments have been living94000:59:44.400 --> 00:59:48.360



together with the Elborians in this underground lake place for94100:59:48.519 --> 00:59:54.199



five freaking years, Okay, five long years of supposedly working94200:59:54.239 --> 00:59:58.760



together to build this ship that they're going to use94300:59:58.840 --> 01:00:02.119



to to escape the vend sure, right, and apparently they're94401:00:02.280 --> 01:00:05.760



using the Gilligan's Island construction techniques because it's taken five94501:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.039



years to build this little ship, right, given the Eric94601:00:08.079 --> 01:00:11.559



scavenging parts off of you know, the Oborian ship or whatever.94701:00:11.800 --> 01:00:12.000



Right.94801:00:12.079 --> 01:00:16.119



And the plan is that they the ship is now94901:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.079



ready to go, and so you've got to figure out95001:00:18.079 --> 01:00:19.719



who's going to be the crew on this thing, right,95101:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.159



And so they need to blow a giant hole in95201:00:22.239 --> 01:00:25.719



the cavern so they can launch the ship and escape95301:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.400



the planet, the cavern, as well as the planet's debris field, right,95401:00:30.400 --> 01:00:34.639



because there's a lot of detritus floating around from SETI95501:00:34.639 --> 01:00:38.159



Alpha six, right, so you have to navigate past apparently, right. So,95601:00:39.039 --> 01:00:41.239



and CON's is getting a little cranky, right because he95701:00:41.320 --> 01:00:44.280



lost his wife, right, and he first to start fleet's95801:00:44.360 --> 01:00:48.159



callous indifference towards them, right. And in a big meeting95901:00:49.639 --> 01:00:55.400



with everybody, Con decides to announce the crew rather surprisingly right,96001:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.679



and Delmond is standing there expecting to you know, okay,96101:00:58.800 --> 01:01:02.119



we talked about this good deal, right, except everything is different,96201:01:02.199 --> 01:01:06.440



and Con has decided to announce himself as commander of96301:01:06.480 --> 01:01:10.800



the crew. And this is not what Delmont is not96401:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.920



my beautiful house, is what Delmanda is saying. I was96501:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.280



told I would be on this ship and you were96601:01:16.280 --> 01:01:19.880



staying behind. Don No, no, he's not. And so Con96701:01:19.920 --> 01:01:23.239



says that Ursula will stay behind and lead in his absence,96801:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.280



and I have spoken it is for the good of96901:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.400



all right, So this is not the This is a97001:01:29.440 --> 01:01:32.159



little disingenuous on CON's part here in terms of what97101:01:32.239 --> 01:01:37.039



he'd led everybody else to believe. And Cohn is basically97201:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.639



planning to escape the planet with his daughter Collie. He97301:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.599



was like five now, right on the venture, leaving the97401:01:44.679 --> 01:01:48.679



rest of the Augments and the Alborians to their doom.97501:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.320



Right, He's telling them, Oh, I'll be, don't worry, I'll be.97601:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.079



We're gonna come back and get you guys for a97701:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.559



rescue in like six months, right, and it'll be fun97801:01:56.039 --> 01:02:00.559



in there in the horrifically unlivable health that is the97901:02:00.559 --> 01:02:03.679



planet surface. I'm just staying in there for six months,98001:02:03.679 --> 01:02:05.719



and I swear I'm gonna come back.98101:02:05.559 --> 01:02:08.519



With a rescue party to get you.98201:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.840



So it was really not what everyone was led to98301:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.360



believe right at all.98401:02:14.679 --> 01:02:19.760



So, and I think Delmanda's reaction is really kind of hilarious.98501:02:19.840 --> 01:02:25.239



He's kind of like, we need talk, literally says we98601:02:25.320 --> 01:02:29.000



need to talk God, right, And it's crazy.98701:02:29.199 --> 01:02:29.360



Right.98801:02:29.960 --> 01:02:33.880



So, because we find out from Lear's review of the98901:02:34.239 --> 01:02:38.559



logs that you know, his daughter was spared. Uh you know,99001:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.400



she's inherited a lot of CON's you know, advanced genes.99101:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.039



So she talks like a ten year old even though99201:02:43.039 --> 01:02:45.800



she's five. Right, But part of the whole deal too,99301:02:45.920 --> 01:02:50.599



is like she's been spared you know, the rationing right99401:02:50.800 --> 01:02:55.079



and starvation protocols that have affected everybody else. In fact,99501:02:55.199 --> 01:02:57.679



we it's mentioned that some of the augments actually died99601:02:57.679 --> 01:03:01.280



from because they were given so few rations and things99701:03:01.280 --> 01:03:04.639



like that. So it's not so great. So this whole99801:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.880



thing is really terrible. CON's kind of hidden this plan99901:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.480



from everyone else. But guess what, somebody else has been100001:03:10.519 --> 01:03:13.960



hiding stuff too, because we learned from Delmanda the actual100101:03:14.039 --> 01:03:17.599



truth about the SETI Office six disaster. Okay, that it100201:03:17.679 --> 01:03:20.440



wasn't just the planet being unstable that happened, but the100301:03:20.480 --> 01:03:26.119



Alborian ship, right, had suffered some kind of a catastrophic100401:03:26.280 --> 01:03:27.280



engine failure.100501:03:27.559 --> 01:03:27.760



Right.100601:03:27.840 --> 01:03:32.440



They were using something that was referred to as a100701:03:32.480 --> 01:03:35.920



spatial compression drive if I've got that correct, right, and100801:03:36.119 --> 01:03:39.559



that just did not play nicely with others and it100901:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.320



basically when they crashed on the planet, it had catastrophic101001:03:44.360 --> 01:03:48.280



engine failure and it was so bad that it would101101:03:48.320 --> 01:03:52.599



be like if you you know, detonated an h bomb101201:03:52.679 --> 01:03:57.320



at the gas station or like equivalent problems, right, and101301:03:57.400 --> 01:04:01.719



it blew up SETI Alpha six, you know, cause this101401:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.199



huge planetary collapse that we've all learned and sort of101501:04:05.239 --> 01:04:07.719



way to survive. They're like, well, basically the only habitable101601:04:07.719 --> 01:04:10.079



planet around is vibes, so I guess we'll land there,101701:04:10.639 --> 01:04:13.400



and so down they went right to see if they101801:04:13.400 --> 01:04:17.320



could make repairs on the ship. Meanwhile, while sitting Office101901:04:17.320 --> 01:04:20.719



six is you know, obliterating itself and causing all this102001:04:20.800 --> 01:04:25.159



havoc throughout the system. So a big secret on the102101:04:25.199 --> 01:04:29.639



part of Damanda's there, because it's like no one's really102201:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.039



been telling the truth about their intentions this whole time.102301:04:32.679 --> 01:04:37.239



So that's kind of a big reveal. And then you look,102401:04:37.639 --> 01:04:40.239



from what I was hearing, it's not really clearly described.102501:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.880



It sounded like con is like trying to kill Delmanda,102601:04:44.119 --> 01:04:46.000



you know, for this treachery, or beat him to death102701:04:46.119 --> 01:04:49.079



or something like that. And then and what to me102801:04:49.199 --> 01:04:52.480



was kind of a comedic moment, Collie, his daughter, bursts102901:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.679



in and says, oh, Daddy, that's your angry face. I103001:04:55.719 --> 01:05:01.400



don't like it. And being such a great father that103101:05:01.440 --> 01:05:03.960



he is, planned lies to Collie about you know, oh,103201:05:04.039 --> 01:05:06.039



I'm not going to leave delmonda the hind No, no,103301:05:06.079 --> 01:05:10.119



not at all, right, And and I'm sorry, but Delmond103401:05:10.239 --> 01:05:11.960



is kind of a whimp. I find he's not a103501:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.199



very strong character at all. I find him really annoying,103601:05:15.559 --> 01:05:17.599



and he's kind of you know, on the one hand,103701:05:17.599 --> 01:05:21.000



he's very anachronistic and contemporary sounding. You know, he sounds103801:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.400



like somebody that you'd meet at Starbucks can't start their laptop.103901:05:24.519 --> 01:05:26.440



You know, it just does not seem like an alien104001:05:26.480 --> 01:05:29.400



to me at all. He's just way too contemporary. I104101:05:29.599 --> 01:05:34.079



seev nodding there, so that's good, and he's just whatever104201:05:34.079 --> 01:05:36.119



something happens. I mean, CON's trying to beat him up104301:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.159



and he's been like, you know, to leave it behind104401:05:38.199 --> 01:05:42.239



and your death, and just Delmanda just rolls over like104501:05:42.280 --> 01:05:44.679



an old dog and just takes it right. And he's104601:05:44.719 --> 01:05:47.519



a really weak dude. I'm like, you're a leader. I mean,104701:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.679



you're gonna let everybody just do what? And what was104801:05:51.800 --> 01:05:55.119



a little confusing to me is this is this whole104901:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.280



thing where it seems like Ursula is accepted the charge105001:05:58.320 --> 01:06:02.800



to maybe lead the augments and implement Cohn's plan. So105101:06:02.840 --> 01:06:04.719



I guess she knows that Kan's going to leave them105201:06:04.760 --> 01:06:07.320



all behind and that they're all going to starve to death.105301:06:07.400 --> 01:06:10.800



That was really confusing to me. And all that stuff.105401:06:10.800 --> 01:06:12.719



I wasn't really sure what you know, if you know105501:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.800



about it, why are you not going to fight to105601:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.000



stop it from happening. But then in this dramatic kind105701:06:19.039 --> 01:06:22.119



of like pulling the curtain back moment, Ivan shows up.105801:06:22.239 --> 01:06:22.440



Right.105901:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.760



It's just like, I guess, maybe this is right on106001:06:25.800 --> 01:06:28.159



the eve of the launch, so maybe he's going to106101:06:28.239 --> 01:06:32.400



try to get Ursula to do some active rebellion against Cohn.106201:06:32.440 --> 01:06:34.159



That's all I can think of is maybe that's what's106301:06:34.199 --> 01:06:35.840



all happened. I don't know, but it was just it106401:06:35.880 --> 01:06:39.199



was very like Ivan, heyoh, and he just kind of106501:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.440



dramatically shows up like a soap opera guy there. And106601:06:43.400 --> 01:06:46.360



then we go back to the Sulu timeline real quickly,106701:06:46.480 --> 01:06:49.880



and you know, Lear seems like, Okay, I've listened to106801:06:49.880 --> 01:06:53.280



all the logs and I'm really sorry Captain Szulu, but106901:06:53.320 --> 01:06:55.880



it looks like Kirk was innocent this whole time. She107001:06:55.960 --> 01:06:59.719



apologizes and she does all this stuff, and Sue was like, Babe,107101:06:59.719 --> 01:07:01.960



we got to go. I got new orders from Starfleet Command.107201:07:02.000 --> 01:07:03.679



We got to get out of here, right. But she107301:07:03.760 --> 01:07:07.800



wants a few more hours to reconcile something. And then107401:07:08.159 --> 01:07:11.800



we find out that she's unauthorized transport. Doctor Lear has107501:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.679



beamed down to the planet because she's got to do107601:07:13.719 --> 01:07:15.719



one more thing and SETI Alpha five. I don't know107701:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.000



what it is, but we haven't really figured that out yet.107801:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.440



So she's just and Tuvok's going to go down and107901:07:20.440 --> 01:07:24.039



stop her or keep it from happening becausevak Is is, uh,108001:07:24.480 --> 01:07:26.239



you know, he's got to do something a row I108101:07:26.239 --> 01:07:27.880



can figure out what's need to get to the truth,108201:07:28.000 --> 01:07:32.320



the actual truth of what does doctor Lear know. So108301:07:32.360 --> 01:07:35.280



those are my takes on it. I'm not going to108401:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.920



give you my score until later. If that's okay, come108501:07:37.960 --> 01:07:39.159



back to me at the end and I'll give you108601:07:39.159 --> 01:07:41.119



a score because I don't want to prejudice everybody else108701:07:41.159 --> 01:07:45.599



because I'm feeling super opinionated today. I'm afraid I might108801:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.639



really kind of take the kool aid if I give108901:07:48.679 --> 01:07:52.679



you my score now. But that's basically the real gist109001:07:52.719 --> 01:07:54.920



of it, with these two big reveals like CON's a109101:07:54.960 --> 01:07:57.800



liar and is dooming everyone and going to steal the ship,109201:07:57.920 --> 01:08:01.800



and you suck as a leader, now do and Delmanda109301:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.519



is like, oh, sorry, it was really my fault. I'm109401:08:04.519 --> 01:08:07.400



the one who like crashed my motor home into your109501:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.480



living room when you were having Christmas dinner. Sorry, man,109601:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.239



That's what I took from it, right, I'm just like109701:08:14.360 --> 01:08:18.239



Delmanda is now a contest with con who's the biggest asshole.109801:08:18.319 --> 01:08:20.800



I'm not sure I can tell who, but they're both109901:08:20.880 --> 01:08:23.239



kind of not looking really great in this episode. And110001:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.319



it's no surprise now that khn named her his daughter110101:08:28.399 --> 01:08:32.359



after the goddess of doom and destruction, So it's it's110201:08:32.399 --> 01:08:36.600



not looking so good is this going for the final episode?110301:08:36.600 --> 01:08:42.600



But I'm feeling like this webbed podcast draw is like110401:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.159



about four episodes longer than it needed to be. I110501:08:45.640 --> 01:08:48.159



just feel like we're just you know, and the more110601:08:48.199 --> 01:08:51.159



I'm hanging out with Delmanda and these Aliens, I'm just like,110701:08:51.600 --> 01:08:55.199



I just don't like that the whole plot twist of that.110801:08:55.439 --> 01:08:57.800



I'm like, if we ever do get the writer on110901:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.600



this show, I would really have a lot of questions.111001:09:00.840 --> 01:09:05.840



Is this all stuff that was originally in the idea111101:09:06.199 --> 01:09:09.279



that Nicholas Meyer came up with, like with the Aliens111201:09:09.319 --> 01:09:11.159



really something that he came up with, or is this111301:09:11.199 --> 01:09:13.640



stuff that you guys poked up that you thought would111401:09:13.680 --> 01:09:15.439



be cool. I mean, I would really like to know111501:09:16.119 --> 01:09:18.439



all that stuff. But I have got to stop talking111601:09:19.359 --> 01:09:22.800



because I'm seemingly having a problem stopping talking. So I'm111701:09:22.840 --> 01:09:26.479



gonna stop talking to you guys, just in again and yeah,111801:09:26.720 --> 01:09:29.000



so that's hope. I hope I didn't miss anything crucial.111901:09:30.840 --> 01:09:33.279



Well, David, why don't you, why don't you jump in112001:09:33.359 --> 01:09:38.239



here and share your insights? No flash Gordon theme, no112101:09:38.359 --> 01:09:44.119



ghost Fosters, no star truck and just just what did112201:09:44.159 --> 01:09:46.119



you think I was seeing?112301:09:46.159 --> 01:09:52.399



My answers? Okay, let's see here. Well, yeah, so this episode,112401:09:52.439 --> 01:09:55.640



I honestly thought, what is the last episode of the series.112501:09:55.880 --> 01:09:59.880



I didn't realize it was at number nine, but yeah,112601:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.960



So when I was listening to this, I was like, Okay, cool,112701:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.520



they skip the head five years, so they are getting112801:10:05.560 --> 01:10:08.880



ready to do the whole you know, getting ready and112901:10:08.920 --> 01:10:11.000



getting on the ship, and you know, we all know113001:10:11.039 --> 01:10:14.279



the rest of history. But now since is another episode113101:10:14.319 --> 01:10:19.279



that kind of makes me wonder, like, huh, the climax113201:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.479



of this whole series, I thought was I've been showing up,113301:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.880



but then it ended. I was like, wait a minute, wait.113401:10:25.439 --> 01:10:29.279



But other than that, yeah, so I'm excited to listen113501:10:29.319 --> 01:10:32.039



to the last episode. I'm hoping they would do more,113601:10:32.159 --> 01:10:35.479



but I guess, you know, they're finally they've already used113701:10:35.560 --> 01:10:41.479



up five years of the I guess could be story113801:10:41.560 --> 01:10:43.760



plots that they could have come up with season two.113901:10:43.840 --> 01:10:50.239



But anyways, uh yeah, So this one in general I114001:10:50.359 --> 01:10:57.079



thought was kind of an interesting, uh episode, mainly because114101:10:57.720 --> 01:11:03.640



of the whole five years got skipped and now we're114201:11:03.760 --> 01:11:07.479



kind of linking up to the timeline to where Kahan114301:11:07.880 --> 01:11:15.000



meets Kirk in the Wrath Kan So. I I liked114401:11:15.039 --> 01:11:18.159



how they didn't go too far into the future because114501:11:18.159 --> 01:11:21.560



of the fact that when Cook put him down on114601:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.439



the planet that would like work back in season two114701:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.000



of the original seriod, I think, or whether she's one114801:11:27.720 --> 01:11:32.239



one okay, so yeah, and then of course the idea114901:11:32.399 --> 01:11:37.439



that like what three four years later came by meeting115001:11:37.920 --> 01:11:40.279



just kind of like trying to put the timeline together115101:11:40.279 --> 01:11:44.600



in my head. But anyway, other than that, the yeah,115201:11:44.680 --> 01:11:47.119



this one was I after agreer with Paul, this one115301:11:47.159 --> 01:11:50.359



was a little confusing to me. I didn't really think115401:11:50.520 --> 01:11:55.079



that the climax of this particular episode were all that great.115501:11:57.079 --> 01:12:00.800



But now since there's another episode, I got hope, I guess.115601:12:00.880 --> 01:12:06.039



But yeah, uh, the alien de Monto whatever his name is,115701:12:07.760 --> 01:12:11.159



he he seems I mean, I know that they're supposed115801:12:11.159 --> 01:12:13.760



to be a pacifist race, and the fact that he115901:12:13.920 --> 01:12:17.479



laid over like a dog, which I don't know. I116001:12:17.520 --> 01:12:18.880



think he could have put up a little bit more116101:12:18.920 --> 01:12:21.640



of a fight. But at the same time, this character116201:12:21.720 --> 01:12:24.760



in general, it's just like, Yeah, what was the point116301:12:24.800 --> 01:12:26.800



of them showing up besides the fact that they were116401:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.359



going to build them a ship and if they made116501:12:29.399 --> 01:12:35.279



a mistake, was accidentally blown up the planet. Why all116601:12:35.319 --> 01:12:38.119



of a sudden are they they're building them a ship116701:12:38.640 --> 01:12:43.319



just for the fact of the uh, you know, getting116801:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.479



con off their planet somehow, So I would like, I116901:12:46.479 --> 01:12:48.239



don't know, I think they could have come up with117001:12:48.279 --> 01:12:53.520



something better, but I don't know. Other than that, the like,117101:12:53.560 --> 01:12:57.439



I have to say that kudos to the effects team,117201:12:57.800 --> 01:13:01.079



uh for making those cool sounds. It makes it sound117301:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.039



like this is your only audio tape I've ever listened to,117401:13:03.119 --> 01:13:05.640



But no, I've actually had listened to other audio tapes.117501:13:05.439 --> 01:13:05.600



Like.117601:13:07.399 --> 01:13:11.640



Other ones that I've listened to. But anyways, I really117701:13:11.760 --> 01:13:16.319



enjoy hearing all the different sounds and like people walking.117801:13:16.359 --> 01:13:19.720



It makes it seem so live when they go through117901:13:20.399 --> 01:13:24.680



the step by step process of like what's actually happening118001:13:24.760 --> 01:13:27.560



in the series. So in that particular episode, were actually118101:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.239



I don't know, I'm gonna have to give this one.118201:13:34.359 --> 01:13:37.359



I don't know. I didn't I didn't really like the118301:13:37.399 --> 01:13:39.800



climax and the fact that I haven't showed up for118401:13:40.000 --> 01:13:42.359



a little confusing. But I'm gonna have to give this118501:13:42.439 --> 01:13:45.439



one a six and a half six point five.118601:13:48.359 --> 01:13:52.279



All right, cool, Well, you know, David, I'm gonna I'll118701:13:52.359 --> 01:13:56.279



jump in and follow up your comments. What can I say?118801:13:57.119 --> 01:13:59.760



This is no Star Trek five. Okay, let's go there.118901:14:00.920 --> 01:14:08.039



Nowhere near as good as that The Aliens. I don't119001:14:08.039 --> 01:14:13.439



even know where to start. Okay. When I found out119101:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.239



that this was the eighth episode and they jumped ahead119201:14:16.239 --> 01:14:18.199



five years, I'm like, what the hell did we waste119301:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.640



all of this rest of this time? For they could119401:14:20.640 --> 01:14:24.319



have told the story in a much better way than119501:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.079



they have, And now that they jumped ahead five years,119601:14:27.119 --> 01:14:31.840



we have one episode left. I don't know, it's just119701:14:32.680 --> 01:14:37.079



it seems like it's disjointed to me. I've been coming back.119801:14:37.239 --> 01:14:40.800



Cons people are falling apart. They don't you know, they119901:14:40.840 --> 01:14:45.239



don't have any cohesion anymore. They're turning on each other.120001:14:48.560 --> 01:14:53.119



Delmonico's dudes can't do their psychonics anymore. They're weak, they120101:14:53.119 --> 01:14:58.600



can't move objects. CON's people are going to kill them120201:14:58.600 --> 01:15:02.319



all and starve them all. We know Delman gonna go120301:15:02.520 --> 01:15:08.039



live because he gives the logs lear we found that120401:15:08.119 --> 01:15:13.039



out a couple episodes ago. CON's going to take the120501:15:13.119 --> 01:15:16.039



ship and just leave everybody behind with his daughter, I120601:15:16.039 --> 01:15:22.159



guess is the plan. Yeah. I I didn't like this120701:15:22.199 --> 01:15:26.239



one at all. I hope they redeemed themselves next week.120801:15:27.039 --> 01:15:31.479



But it wasn't what I was expecting. It really wasn't.120901:15:32.359 --> 01:15:34.359



Maybe some seat of eels are going to come in,121001:15:34.479 --> 01:15:38.239



come in and take over Delmonico's people and turn them121101:15:38.239 --> 01:15:44.079



into super cyborgs or something. But yeah, I can't think121201:15:44.119 --> 01:15:51.279



of anything to say. I like the music. That was cool,121301:15:52.079 --> 01:15:54.279



and I thought the sound effects and stuff were cool.121401:15:55.439 --> 01:15:59.079



I like the fact that Sulu and Tuvaka in the121501:15:59.119 --> 01:16:03.239



beginning lear clear Kirk and said that according to spots logs,121601:16:03.600 --> 01:16:06.359



Kirk didn't know and that was cool.121701:16:09.600 --> 01:16:10.199



Yeah.121801:16:10.279 --> 01:16:13.720



Yeah, so that's what I liked about it. And yeah,121901:16:13.720 --> 01:16:15.920



I'm going to be right there with it with Paul,122001:16:16.279 --> 01:16:22.880



I mean, with David I five point five. Maybe for me,122101:16:24.359 --> 01:16:27.399



just I just didn't feel it just wasn't didn't grab122201:16:27.479 --> 01:16:30.640



me at all. So how about you, v you want122301:16:30.680 --> 01:16:31.159



to jump in.122401:16:31.159 --> 01:16:34.079



Next Yeah, Well, there were a couple of things that122501:16:34.239 --> 01:16:38.600



bugged me about this. Well, they clear Kirk, which is great,122601:16:38.760 --> 01:16:44.159



but I did not hear any explanation as to why122701:16:45.239 --> 01:16:49.239



Starfleet never checked on them, because we've jumped ahead five122801:16:49.359 --> 01:16:52.359



years and it's like we're still here. Nobody's fathered to122901:16:52.439 --> 01:16:54.439



check on us. So I want to know why, why123001:16:54.479 --> 01:16:59.600



did that happen? Was that deliberate? Was that accidental? You know?123101:17:01.239 --> 01:17:03.479



So that that was fathersome And then there was also123201:17:04.239 --> 01:17:06.560



there was a line and I forgot who said it123301:17:06.600 --> 01:17:10.479



was that doctor Lear that said that Kirk didn't know123401:17:11.359 --> 01:17:15.880



when he sent Uh Khan to his death, which sounded123501:17:15.920 --> 01:17:17.960



like she was talking about the planet. But he didn't123601:17:18.039 --> 01:17:21.239



die on the planet. He you know, he died in123701:17:21.319 --> 01:17:25.079



the in the movie, so which is also we know123801:17:25.199 --> 01:17:29.760



that he obviously doesn't go up in the ship because123901:17:29.760 --> 01:17:36.960



he's on the planet. But with the poor Alborians and Almanda,124001:17:38.399 --> 01:17:40.640



the only thing I can think of is that they124101:17:40.840 --> 01:17:45.119



they turned into you know, giant weenies because they you know,124201:17:45.199 --> 01:17:50.000



everybody's on minimal rations and they just don't have the124301:17:50.079 --> 01:17:54.920



strength anymore. But five years is a long time to124401:17:55.000 --> 01:18:00.520



keep a secrets. So Khan keeping uh you know, the124501:18:00.680 --> 01:18:06.119



secret that he's you know, he's not going to you know,124601:18:06.279 --> 01:18:11.800



keep the deal with the Alborians. And then of course Delmanda. Uh,124701:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.800



you know it's like, oops, oops, I trash the planet.124801:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.079



I'm sorry. Here, I'll build you a ship that only124901:18:17.119 --> 01:18:22.159



holds four people. So that was that was kind of lame.125001:18:23.439 --> 01:18:26.479



On the On the positive side of the young lady125101:18:26.479 --> 01:18:32.880



that voices Collie, she I just picture this bright, energetic,125201:18:33.000 --> 01:18:36.760



cheerful little girl who you know, at five loves Shakespeare125301:18:37.840 --> 01:18:43.920



but does not like Coleridge. So but yeah, I agree125401:18:43.920 --> 01:18:48.479



with with Paul about the h the whole deal with125501:18:48.920 --> 01:18:53.880



whoever voice is Delmanda. It sounds so, you know, not125601:18:54.119 --> 01:18:59.319



not alien. It's a it's a very very bizarre voice actor.125701:18:59.600 --> 01:19:03.039



I would say, But what did you say, like somebody125801:19:03.039 --> 01:19:04.760



you'd meet at Starbucks?125901:19:07.399 --> 01:19:10.000



Yeah, it's too contemporary, right, They're just too you know.126001:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.039



It's just very contemporary because you know, con does he's126101:19:13.039 --> 01:19:16.800



got that wonderful accent. Oh. I know who else kept126201:19:16.800 --> 01:19:17.319



a secret?126301:19:17.439 --> 01:19:17.520



Was?126401:19:18.279 --> 01:19:21.239



It wasn't five years? But who's Ursula? Who I do126501:19:21.359 --> 01:19:26.600



not like. She is just a stone cold person. She126601:19:26.800 --> 01:19:31.159



kept the secret from her former girlfriend, who had been126701:19:31.399 --> 01:19:34.880



taking care forget what her name is the one with126801:19:34.960 --> 01:19:41.159



the thank you well, although it was kind of lame126901:19:41.239 --> 01:19:43.359



when she you know, because she knows that Khan is127001:19:43.399 --> 01:19:46.239



going to take Collie and Mondeaux has been raising her127101:19:46.279 --> 01:19:50.279



since she was born and said, why wouldn't why didn't127201:19:50.279 --> 01:19:52.560



you tell me? Said, well, when did I have time?127301:19:52.640 --> 01:19:55.319



You were raising Collie and you were with her, you127401:19:55.359 --> 01:19:57.479



know that whole time. It's like, come on, the kids127501:19:57.479 --> 01:20:01.560



sleep sometime you could have had a conversation. So I127601:20:01.600 --> 01:20:06.319



don't know. There were just some you know, really, I agree,127701:20:06.359 --> 01:20:11.119



some lame, disjointed stories there. And then when you have127801:20:11.920 --> 01:20:15.159



Ivans show up, it's like, okay, well he should have127901:20:15.239 --> 01:20:17.359



been by all right, should have been dead because he128001:20:17.479 --> 01:20:21.359



was banished. So he shows up and I'm sure having128101:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.119



to live on the outside for five years, he's really pissed,128201:20:24.720 --> 01:20:29.119



so that's not going to He's got some revenge on128301:20:30.039 --> 01:20:35.800



in his head. So yeah, I'll be interested to see. Well,128401:20:35.840 --> 01:20:39.520



I don't remember the whole thing of the last episode128501:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.720



that I know, I won't even I won't say, but128601:20:42.800 --> 01:20:48.640



hopefully we'll get a nice resolution on some of our questions.128701:20:48.680 --> 01:20:54.159



But yeah, this one just six point five. I'll right128801:20:54.239 --> 01:20:55.520



at six point five.128901:20:57.840 --> 01:21:01.159



All right, what about you, Eric, What do you think?129001:21:01.319 --> 01:21:04.159



Yeah, it feels a little bit like the Trains off129101:21:04.159 --> 01:21:07.760



the Rails. Like I feel like in the first like129201:21:07.800 --> 01:21:10.079



five or six episodes, we were all on board. In129301:21:10.119 --> 01:21:12.279



these last two or three here that we've had have129401:21:12.439 --> 01:21:14.800



kind of started to waiver a little bit. So I129501:21:14.840 --> 01:21:18.840



basically agree with everything you guys have said. I guess129601:21:18.880 --> 01:21:21.439



what I want to say, just to talk about something different,129701:21:21.520 --> 01:21:26.279



is that this show, I think, is meant to be129801:21:26.399 --> 01:21:31.119



that kind of bridge right between Space Seed and Wrath129901:21:31.159 --> 01:21:36.720



of Khan, and so somehow you you have to transform130001:21:36.840 --> 01:21:39.199



this guy, who I think even at the beginning of130101:21:39.239 --> 01:21:42.720



this podcast feels more like a visionary leader to me130201:21:43.840 --> 01:21:48.920



into the kind of like scarred half of a man130301:21:49.119 --> 01:21:53.479



that we see in Wrath of Khan. And they are130401:21:53.560 --> 01:21:58.119



doing this. I have to say. The biggest disappointment about130501:21:58.119 --> 01:22:01.560



this particular episode to me is the fact that they130601:22:01.760 --> 01:22:04.920



bounced ahead five years and gave us nothing about what130701:22:05.039 --> 01:22:08.439



happened in that five years. I mean, come on, that's130801:22:08.479 --> 01:22:10.600



where all the meat and potatoes of this is supposed130901:22:10.600 --> 01:22:14.560



to be. And I expected that over the course of131001:22:14.640 --> 01:22:19.840



nine episodes that we would be going steadily through you know,131101:22:20.399 --> 01:22:22.760



five six years worth of time to kind of like131201:22:23.439 --> 01:22:25.960



catch us up and give us time to see his131301:22:26.119 --> 01:22:29.880



development as a leader. You've talked about the aliens. We've131401:22:29.880 --> 01:22:32.199



talked about the aliens before. I think the aliens are131501:22:32.319 --> 01:22:36.479



kind of weak. But yeah, we're trying to see how131601:22:36.479 --> 01:22:40.800



he gets transformed into this, into this guarred survivor, you know.131701:22:40.840 --> 01:22:42.720



I mean, the loss of his wife is certainly a131801:22:42.720 --> 01:22:47.479



big catalyst for that. The loss of even the early131901:22:47.520 --> 01:22:51.079



people like Richter, you know, in those first couple episodes there,132001:22:52.319 --> 01:22:56.279



and him kind of taking that grief and using it132101:22:56.319 --> 01:22:59.560



as a catalyst to do different things in his Life's132201:22:59.600 --> 01:23:03.159



what's pretty clear is that he takes his all of132301:23:03.159 --> 01:23:07.720



his energy for Marla after she dies and tries to132401:23:07.760 --> 01:23:11.600



put it into Collie, right. But he also transforms from132501:23:11.640 --> 01:23:14.600



this guy who's totally focused on his people, I think,132601:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.199



to being a guy who's almost solely focused on his132701:23:19.279 --> 01:23:22.720



daughter right now, and he's not really thinking about what132801:23:22.960 --> 01:23:25.840



is best for the people. He's just thinking about what's132901:23:25.840 --> 01:23:29.199



best for his family and his probably his genetic line.133001:23:29.720 --> 01:23:33.319



It's what he's thinking about. So I don't like that133101:23:33.399 --> 01:23:40.560



shift in his character. It's sort of like feels like133201:23:40.640 --> 01:23:44.039



all of this kind of paranoia, distrust that he's had133301:23:44.159 --> 01:23:48.560



for various people and situations and the planet itself. The133401:23:48.560 --> 01:23:50.880



way the planet was attacking him, you know, they have133501:23:50.960 --> 01:23:54.239



turned him into a different a different man, but they133601:23:54.239 --> 01:23:56.760



didn't really give us enough of that transformation, which I133701:23:56.760 --> 01:24:01.279



think is where the meat potatoes would have been. So anyway,133801:24:02.319 --> 01:24:04.800



I don't have too much more to say I think133901:24:04.800 --> 01:24:08.079



about this episode. I'm pretty much where you guys are.134001:24:08.239 --> 01:24:11.439



I mean, it was might have been the weakest episode134101:24:11.439 --> 01:24:13.760



that we've listened to so far, as certainly at least134201:24:13.800 --> 01:24:16.880



second weakest, But I think I'm gonna go weakest, and134301:24:16.920 --> 01:24:18.800



I think I've rated something as low as like a134401:24:19.239 --> 01:24:21.960



six or a five to five, so so I think134501:24:22.000 --> 01:24:25.000



maybe I'll give this one a five. It just, like134601:24:25.039 --> 01:24:27.199



I said, I agree with everything you guys said. It134701:24:27.239 --> 01:24:31.800



felt disjointed, like the story wasn't really that good, almost134801:24:31.800 --> 01:24:34.279



like they painted themselves into a corner or somehow or134901:24:34.319 --> 01:24:35.800



something with the writing. I don't know.135001:24:36.239 --> 01:24:41.880



Yeah, well, Paul, you started us off with the engine135101:24:41.920 --> 01:24:43.680



and you gelt to wrap us up with the kaboos.135201:24:44.239 --> 01:24:47.039



Yeah, you make great points, Eric, I'm right there with you.135301:24:47.279 --> 01:24:49.119



It's just and one of the things that bugs me, right,135401:24:49.319 --> 01:24:53.640



is you know, you got nine episodes of this, right,135501:24:53.720 --> 01:24:57.880



and so much opportunities to dig in and do rich135601:24:57.960 --> 01:24:58.560



character work.135701:24:58.640 --> 01:24:58.840



Right.135801:24:58.920 --> 01:25:01.439



And what is like one of the most defining things135901:25:01.479 --> 01:25:06.800



about Khan from the original episode Space Seed? Right, anybody136001:25:07.239 --> 01:25:07.560



have a.136101:25:07.520 --> 01:25:14.039



Thought that he was just you know, beyond genius. So136201:25:15.039 --> 01:25:19.319



but he was also ye also but but also with136301:25:19.800 --> 01:25:24.399



you know, the the tinged with madness, you know, so136401:25:24.560 --> 01:25:25.560



the evil genius.136501:25:25.600 --> 01:25:29.239



I guess you could say, yeah, I think that's that's fair.136601:25:29.439 --> 01:25:33.279



He was, he was, But but what I'm talking about136701:25:33.319 --> 01:25:34.520



is really specific.136801:25:34.640 --> 01:25:34.760



Right.136901:25:34.920 --> 01:25:38.600



He is a seekh Okay, he is from India, he137001:25:38.680 --> 01:25:40.399



is Marla paints him.137101:25:40.960 --> 01:25:43.560



He paints him with the turban right and and it137201:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.880



says they're the most fantastic warriors, right. And she's she137301:25:47.000 --> 01:25:50.840



really romanticizes the history of the Sikh people, right. And137401:25:51.159 --> 01:25:54.399



there's none of that in terms of his cultural identity.137501:25:54.560 --> 01:25:57.000



And that's a gold mine of interesting stuff that you137601:25:57.039 --> 01:26:00.359



could do to get in there and talk about his history.137701:26:01.199 --> 01:26:02.880



You know, what made him a leader? You know, he137801:26:02.960 --> 01:26:06.279



named his daughter Collie. That's about the closest we get137901:26:06.319 --> 01:26:09.680



to even remembering that con as an Indian ancestry, Right,138001:26:09.720 --> 01:26:11.960



it's just because of that name. So I think they138101:26:12.039 --> 01:26:14.880



really kind of almost whitewash con in a way here, right,138201:26:14.920 --> 01:26:17.479



and kind of you know, pulled out the real you138301:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.920



know it's it says a lot when a sixties TV138401:26:21.079 --> 01:26:25.239



episode gives more cultural relevance to the guy's backstory than138501:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.600



you know, twenty first century podcast. So I feel they138601:26:28.600 --> 01:26:32.079



really kind of dropped the ball there, and and I'm138701:26:32.159 --> 01:26:36.840



just some really unfortunate choices. I'm really am curious. I mean,138801:26:36.840 --> 01:26:38.680



I have to do a little hunting around this weekend138901:26:38.760 --> 01:26:41.800



and see if I can figure out what how much139001:26:41.840 --> 01:26:46.880



of this stuff was in the best maybe ever gifted139101:26:47.159 --> 01:26:51.960



guest of the show, Nicholas Meyer's original you know mini series,139201:26:52.319 --> 01:26:54.439



which I think was supposed to just be three episodes,139301:26:54.520 --> 01:26:59.840



like a three three movie miniseries. Yeah, I'd really like139401:26:59.880 --> 01:27:01.920



that pick his brain. I wish we'd known this was139501:27:01.920 --> 01:27:03.479



coming when he was on the show because I would139601:27:03.479 --> 01:27:05.479



have loved to get more detail. But I'm sure the139701:27:05.479 --> 01:27:08.039



internet list forever, so hopefully there's some details out there139801:27:08.279 --> 01:27:10.319



about that, because I'm really curious because it just seems139901:27:10.359 --> 01:27:14.079



like really good riding up front, you know, giant blast Crater.140001:27:14.239 --> 01:27:16.520



Here's we approach the ending. So I'm really hoping that's140101:27:16.560 --> 01:27:20.720



going to be a great ending. Uh here, I mean140201:27:20.800 --> 01:27:23.039



you could still savage this thing, you can still write140301:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.920



the ship. I mean, what is the big secret for140401:27:26.279 --> 01:27:29.560



doctor lear right? Why is Tuvak so invested in that?140501:27:29.680 --> 01:27:33.319



What's going to happen that basically, you know, brought Cohn140601:27:33.560 --> 01:27:36.680



back to SETI Alpha five for check off and the140701:27:37.520 --> 01:27:41.000



you know, the other captain to find him in Wrathakon.140801:27:41.239 --> 01:27:43.399



How did that happen? Clearly he never went where he140901:27:43.439 --> 01:27:45.920



thought he was going to go. Something went wrong, right,141001:27:46.000 --> 01:27:49.600



So I'm really curious about that. But I'm right next141101:27:49.600 --> 01:27:52.439



to my friend Eric here is this is warranting of five.141201:27:52.720 --> 01:27:56.560



This was not a good episode and and I really141301:27:56.560 --> 01:27:58.680



hope they do better and improve things with the ending.141401:27:58.720 --> 01:28:02.319



So five for me, how.141501:28:02.239 --> 01:28:04.520



Would your guys like to talk to David Mack, one141601:28:04.560 --> 01:28:05.640



of the guys that wrote this.141701:28:06.800 --> 01:28:10.239



That'd be awesome, it'd be awesome.141801:28:10.319 --> 01:28:12.520



But I'm I'm but you know we're not going to141901:28:12.560 --> 01:28:15.319



blow smoke up his butt, right, I mean, there's no way.142001:28:15.439 --> 01:28:18.760



I mean this this is a problematic series, right, So142101:28:18.840 --> 01:28:20.920



I mean, if he's willing to come on and hear.142201:28:20.800 --> 01:28:24.199



Us he's willing to talk about things openly and honestly,142301:28:24.279 --> 01:28:26.520



like in a real kind of critique sort of way.142401:28:26.600 --> 01:28:28.880



You know, we don't want to be critical, but we142501:28:28.920 --> 01:28:34.680



do want to critique, right, So you know, we long range,142601:28:34.760 --> 01:28:36.359



long term Star Trek fans, We have a lot of142701:28:36.399 --> 01:28:39.880



really specific things. And and I know he co wrote142801:28:39.880 --> 01:28:43.279



it with one of the you know, I think, who142901:28:43.279 --> 01:28:44.720



do you co write it with? With somebody from the143001:28:45.239 --> 01:28:50.720



Star Trek from from just like a Discovery writer, right, Yeah,143101:28:50.960 --> 01:28:54.960



So I'll be curious who did what right, who came143201:28:55.039 --> 01:28:57.159



up with the aliens concept? That's what I really want143301:28:57.159 --> 01:29:01.600



to know, and who cast Delmondo? You know. So yeah,143401:29:01.720 --> 01:29:03.840



I mean, if he's want to talk really you know,143501:29:03.960 --> 01:29:12.399



oh Monica teaches, right, if he's here, are reactions and143601:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.199



you know, I mean we'll be respectful, of course, but143701:29:15.199 --> 01:29:18.000



we're also going to be candid, right because I think143801:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.560



that's important. So I'd be curious to talk to the143901:29:21.000 --> 01:29:23.920



gentleman for sure. But you know, I mean we're not144001:29:23.960 --> 01:29:27.520



gonna you know, but I'm not hear a ray. But144101:29:27.640 --> 01:29:30.199



depending maybe they really pull it out in the last development.144201:29:33.079 --> 01:29:39.479



Maybe maybe optimistic, very optimistic before we know.144301:29:40.479 --> 01:29:47.239



What is it? Uh, what is it fifteen years? Is144401:29:47.239 --> 01:29:50.039



that how long it was after after Space Seat and144501:29:50.119 --> 01:29:54.359



Rapha has a fifteen year time gap or something like that,144601:29:54.560 --> 01:30:02.000



fifteen or twelve see Ratha Han, you mean.144701:30:01.880 --> 01:30:05.960



In terms of the reality, in terms of box office?144801:30:06.039 --> 01:30:10.039



Yeah, it was, it was, it was, Yeah, it was144901:30:10.079 --> 01:30:11.840



sixty s right.145001:30:11.720 --> 01:30:16.319



Internet it was eight sixty seven to eighty five, said145101:30:17.359 --> 01:30:21.560



that would be. Oh, oh, you mean not between the episodes,145201:30:21.600 --> 01:30:24.560



but like show how much time did CON experience?145301:30:25.600 --> 01:30:26.840



Yeah?145401:30:28.000 --> 01:30:31.199



Yeah, So Wrathacon is set in eighty five and Space145501:30:31.199 --> 01:30:34.319



Seed is set in sixty seven, and so that's eighteen145601:30:34.479 --> 01:30:36.079



years difference.145701:30:36.159 --> 01:30:39.000



And they've only they've only covered five of.145801:30:39.039 --> 01:30:41.319



The and there's one episode to go.145901:30:41.880 --> 01:30:46.760



One episode to go. We'll see, we'll see al.146001:30:46.760 --> 01:30:47.199



Right, guys.146101:30:47.199 --> 01:30:51.479



Well, that wraps up our conversation on the Audio drama146201:30:51.680 --> 01:30:56.279



Con Episode eight original Sin. Let's hoped that episode nine146301:30:56.920 --> 01:31:00.239



I can pull everything off for us. Well, guess what, Eyes,146401:31:00.279 --> 01:31:19.880



it's time for our Star Trek birthday. That was not146501:31:19.960 --> 01:31:23.720



a cleon song. And even though we're doing sci fi146601:31:23.800 --> 01:31:27.199



birthdays and not specifically Star Trek birthdays, I still like146701:31:27.359 --> 01:31:29.760



that cling on happy birthday song. So we're going to146801:31:29.880 --> 01:31:32.399



keep it. We just got to find a different graphic146901:31:32.479 --> 01:31:35.119



to put up on the screen. And we always like147001:31:35.159 --> 01:31:38.359



to start off our remembrances with Eric so we can147101:31:38.399 --> 01:31:40.760



remember those members of our family who are no longer147201:31:40.800 --> 01:31:42.960



with us. So Eric take it away.147301:31:43.439 --> 01:31:46.239



Yeah, you, Benjamin. It's kind of fun tonight. We're stepping.147401:31:46.439 --> 01:31:50.399



We're stepping a little beyonder in terms of our remembrances,147501:31:50.399 --> 01:31:52.920



which I kind of like. But our first birthday this147601:31:53.000 --> 01:31:57.840



week is for actor Brian Keith, the Emmy Award nominated147701:31:57.880 --> 01:32:02.239



actor who played Molliebach in the Deep Space nine first147801:32:02.239 --> 01:32:07.359



season episode Progress. This guy, Brian Keith had a very147901:32:07.399 --> 01:32:11.640



long and distinguished career over something like seven decades and148001:32:11.760 --> 01:32:14.960



one hundred different films, but he was best known for148101:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.880



his role as Uncle Bill Davis in the original television148201:32:17.920 --> 01:32:23.479



sitcom Family Affair, for which he reas e Emmy Award nominations.148301:32:23.520 --> 01:32:26.279



So that is pretty cool. But if you'd like to148401:32:26.279 --> 01:32:29.680



know more about this guy, including his military service in148501:32:29.720 --> 01:32:31.720



the Marine Corps and that sort of stuff and all148601:32:31.760 --> 01:32:35.239



of his other acting credentials, go check him out. Brian Keith,148701:32:36.079 --> 01:32:41.119



Happy birthday to him. Born November fourteenth, nineteen twenty one.148801:32:41.279 --> 01:32:44.960



We lost him back in nineteen ninety seven. Next on148901:32:45.000 --> 01:32:48.359



the list, we're saying Happy birthday to Yafet Koto, the149001:32:48.399 --> 01:32:53.720



American actor for film and television who appeared in a149101:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.199



lot of different things, none of them being Star Trek,149201:32:56.239 --> 01:32:59.279



but that's okay, we're celebrating him anyway. His films include149301:33:00.680 --> 01:33:03.640



playing Parker in the science fiction horror film Alien from149401:33:03.720 --> 01:33:07.399



nineteen seventy nine. Of course, he was also in the149501:33:07.399 --> 01:33:11.119



neo noir action thriller Across one hundred and tenth Street149601:33:11.439 --> 01:33:14.720



nineteen seventy two. He was in the science fiction action149701:33:14.840 --> 01:33:17.319



film The Running Man. Maybe you've heard of that, which149801:33:17.319 --> 01:33:20.000



I think now they're remaking, which looks totally weird, but149901:33:20.079 --> 01:33:24.239



the original from nineteen eighty seven. And he was in150001:33:24.279 --> 01:33:26.880



the James Bond film Livin led Die from nineteen seventy three,150101:33:27.840 --> 01:33:35.239



playing the main villain, doctor Kananga. Right. Believe it or not,150201:33:35.359 --> 01:33:37.399



this guy was actually considered for the role of Jean150301:33:37.479 --> 01:33:40.520



Luc Picard. I had no idea, but I found that150401:33:40.600 --> 01:33:43.800



out while researching him, so I thought that was pretty interesting.150501:33:43.840 --> 01:33:48.239



So Happy birthday to the amazing actor Yaffat Koto. Happy150601:33:48.279 --> 01:33:52.399



birthday as well to Blaisdell McKee, also known as McKee,150701:33:52.640 --> 01:33:56.079



k Blaisdell, among other names that he used. He's a150801:33:56.079 --> 01:33:59.199



Hawaiian born actor who appeared twice on Star Trek the150901:33:59.199 --> 01:34:02.640



original series one says Spinelli in Space Seed we were151001:34:02.640 --> 01:34:06.640



just talking about and also as the character sing con151101:34:06.760 --> 01:34:10.560



Union sing same last name, Hm Relation who knows and151201:34:10.680 --> 01:34:14.439



sing in The Changeling. He had numerous small appearances in151301:34:14.479 --> 01:34:18.119



television shows throughout the sixties and seventies, including things like151401:34:18.159 --> 01:34:24.119



Mission Impossible and The Big Valley and Then. But he151501:34:24.199 --> 01:34:29.279



makes perhaps a more interesting appearance in the nineteen seventies,151601:34:29.800 --> 01:34:33.840



appearing in the lurid exploitation film The Manson Murders, which151701:34:33.920 --> 01:34:38.640



also had Sean Kinney in the cast list. So Blaisdel, McKee,151801:34:39.520 --> 01:34:41.880



thank you for your contributions to Star Trek and beyond.151901:34:42.680 --> 01:34:47.720



Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday as well to Thalmus Rasulada,152001:34:48.800 --> 01:34:52.800



the actor who portrayed Captain Don Varley in the second152101:34:52.840 --> 01:34:57.560



season episode Contagion of Next Generation. There is so much152201:34:57.560 --> 01:35:00.600



information on this guy. I will not spend the time152301:35:00.680 --> 01:35:04.399



that is warranted talking about this guy. But let's just152401:35:04.439 --> 01:35:06.279



say that he started out his career kind of like152501:35:06.319 --> 01:35:09.359



in the soap operas back in the day. And grew152601:35:09.760 --> 01:35:15.560



his resume over time, starring in multiple things along the way,152701:35:15.600 --> 01:35:21.119



including myriad movies and television guest appearances. I remember him152801:35:21.159 --> 01:35:28.960



personally from being in the Greatest American Hero Yeah. We152901:35:28.960 --> 01:35:32.359



were also big fans of shows like Cagney and Lacy153001:35:32.439 --> 01:35:34.840



and Simon and Simon, and he had appearances on all153101:35:34.880 --> 01:35:38.399



those shows at that time. So please go check him153201:35:38.439 --> 01:35:41.800



out a little bit more. Felmus. Happy birthday to him,153301:35:42.000 --> 01:35:44.319



unfortunately lost way too early at the age of fifty153401:35:44.359 --> 01:35:48.520



one years old back in nineteen ninety one. Happy Birthday153501:35:48.520 --> 01:35:52.520



to Ellen Albertini Dow the character actress who appeared as153601:35:53.960 --> 01:35:57.880



Felisa Howard in the Next Generation seven season episode sub Rosa.153701:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.520



Look at that lady? You know that face? Best known153801:36:00.520 --> 01:36:02.760



for her role as Gramdma Rosie in the nineteen ninety153901:36:02.760 --> 01:36:06.000



eight comedy The Wedding Singer, and known for his role154001:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.640



as Grandma Mary Cleary in the two thousand and five154101:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.680



comedy Wedding Crashers. Are you seeing a theme here? She154201:36:11.760 --> 01:36:14.560



gained notoriety for a guest appearance on the hit television154301:36:14.640 --> 01:36:18.640



series Seinfeld, in which she played Mama, an old woman154401:36:18.680 --> 01:36:24.640



who died yelling George's pin Code. She also appeared as154501:36:24.680 --> 01:36:28.760



a choir nun in Sister Act various other things. She154601:36:28.880 --> 01:36:33.119



made a profession basically out of playing an old lady.154701:36:33.560 --> 01:36:36.119



She did live to be one hundred and one years old, though,154801:36:36.159 --> 01:36:39.399



so perhaps that was her destiny. Ellen Albertini Dow would154901:36:39.439 --> 01:36:41.439



have had a birthday November sixteenth. She was born in155001:36:41.520 --> 01:36:45.279



nineteen thirteen. Happy Birthday to her. Happy birthday as well155101:36:45.279 --> 01:36:49.319



to Burgess Meredith. The American actor who deserves way more155201:36:49.359 --> 01:36:51.119



time than I'm going to give him right now. But155301:36:51.920 --> 01:36:54.960



I love him for portraying the penguin in that old155401:36:54.960 --> 01:36:58.359



Batman television show which I used to watch after school155501:36:58.439 --> 01:37:00.840



every single day when I was a kid. He was155601:37:00.920 --> 01:37:04.960



also known as Mickey gold Mill Rocky Balbo as trainer155701:37:05.119 --> 01:37:09.880



in the Rocky film series. But from the Twilight Zone155801:37:09.920 --> 01:37:11.680



episode that he was in, which is way back at155901:37:11.720 --> 01:37:16.760



the beginning of the first season, to showing up in156001:37:17.520 --> 01:37:19.560



all sorts of things, wasn't he in like the Clash156101:37:19.600 --> 01:37:21.479



of the Titans movie or something? Who It was like,156201:37:22.159 --> 01:37:25.560



there's so yeah, yeah, there's so much that this guy156301:37:25.640 --> 01:37:28.520



has done. And he did live to be ninety years old,156401:37:28.560 --> 01:37:32.600



which I think is pretty cool. So but every time156501:37:32.600 --> 01:37:36.880



I hear, I'll always think of him from the old156601:37:36.920 --> 01:37:44.079



Batman Tiller. So Happy birthday to Burgess Meredith. Happy birthday156701:37:44.119 --> 01:37:48.159



to Richard Hale, the actor and opera singer born in Rogersville, Tennessee,156801:37:48.159 --> 01:37:52.399



who played Goro in the TOS third season episode The156901:37:52.399 --> 01:37:56.359



Paradise Syndrome. One of only fourteen actors who have been157001:37:56.399 --> 01:38:00.800



born in the nineteenth century who were who appeared in157101:38:00.880 --> 01:38:03.920



Star Trek. This guy, because of just the way he157201:38:03.960 --> 01:38:05.840



looked and the way that people were thinking at the time,157301:38:05.920 --> 01:38:10.159



often got cast as Middle Eastern or Native American characters.157401:38:10.600 --> 01:38:13.399



You can see some of his other roles there in157501:38:13.439 --> 01:38:16.399



the video that we're showing you right now. But film157601:38:16.439 --> 01:38:21.239



credits include things like Soldiers three, Jupiter's Darling, and a157701:38:21.279 --> 01:38:23.359



bunch of other things that you probably haven't heard of.157801:38:23.960 --> 01:38:25.960



Doesn't mean they're not good. They're just kind of like157901:38:26.000 --> 01:38:28.880



those B list movies. But he appeared on Bonanza and158001:38:28.920 --> 01:38:31.079



gun Smoke and all those kind of westerns back in158101:38:31.119 --> 01:38:35.439



the day too, So Richard Hale a face to remember.158201:38:36.239 --> 01:38:39.920



Happy birthday to him. Happy birthday as well to Mary158301:38:40.119 --> 01:38:47.199



Linda Pope, Raphael Repellia, Repellia, there we go. Mary Linda.158401:38:47.239 --> 01:38:49.159



I even practiced that one earlier and I forgot how158501:38:49.199 --> 01:38:51.880



to say it. Mary Linda Repellia was the actor who158601:38:51.960 --> 01:38:58.199



played Irena gol Gali You Lulinulin in the TOS third158701:38:58.239 --> 01:39:01.079



season episode I'm Good at This and I'm really messed158801:39:01.119 --> 01:39:03.880



with one if in the third season TOS episode The158901:39:03.920 --> 01:39:07.680



Way to Eden. She played the role of Susan Kidwell159001:39:07.680 --> 01:39:11.119



in the nineteen sixty nine film adaptation of Truman Capoti's159101:39:11.119 --> 01:39:14.600



novel In Cold Blood, which if you haven't seen, you159201:39:14.600 --> 01:39:17.239



should probably check out. She appeared as the daughter of159301:39:17.279 --> 01:39:21.680



Gregory Peck's character in the science fiction film. Marooned. Lots159401:39:21.680 --> 01:39:24.720



of other stuff on her resume, including soap operas and159501:39:24.840 --> 01:39:28.640



various films, and she actually appeared in Star Trek New159601:39:28.720 --> 01:39:32.199



Voyages too, so she kind of continued that Star Trek legacy.159701:39:33.039 --> 01:39:37.319



So at any rate, Happy birthday to Mary, who we159801:39:37.359 --> 01:39:39.039



lost back in twenty twenty one at the age of159901:39:39.039 --> 01:39:42.560



seventy six years old. Happy birthday to Maggie Threat, the160001:39:42.560 --> 01:39:46.760



stage name of Diane Pine, the actress who played Ruth160101:39:46.840 --> 01:39:50.800



Bonaventure in the TOS first season episode MUDs Women. Outside160201:39:50.840 --> 01:39:54.399



of Star Trek, she also had appeared on television programs160301:39:54.399 --> 01:39:57.359



such as The Wild Wild West and I Dream of Genie.160401:39:57.399 --> 01:39:59.560



You know that face right? You saw that I Dream160501:39:59.600 --> 01:40:03.399



of Genie. Prior to her arrival in Hollywood, Maggie Threat160601:40:03.439 --> 01:40:06.079



had pursued a career as an R and B singer,160701:40:06.439 --> 01:40:10.560



having released the single Lucky Girl as Diane Pine on160801:40:10.600 --> 01:40:13.159



the Take three label in nineteen sixty four, followed by160901:40:13.159 --> 01:40:18.000



the singles Soupy and walk On By as Maggie Threat161001:40:18.560 --> 01:40:21.760



on the Dina Voice label from nineteen sixty five. Soup161101:40:21.800 --> 01:40:25.119



He continues to be a cult hit, having been sampled161201:40:25.119 --> 01:40:28.439



by various Northern soul acts. So go check out the161301:40:28.520 --> 01:40:32.680



song Soupy from nineteen sixty five. It'll say it's by161401:40:32.720 --> 01:40:34.880



Maggie Threat because that's a real name and she was161501:40:34.960 --> 01:40:40.159



using it at that time. Happy Birthday to Maggie, Happy161601:40:40.159 --> 01:40:42.560



birthday to Robert Brown, the actor who made an appearance161701:40:42.600 --> 01:40:46.479



as Lazarus in his counterpart in the TOS first season161801:40:46.520 --> 01:40:50.640



episode The Alternative Factor. He was hired as a last161901:40:50.760 --> 01:40:55.560



minute replacement for actor John Drew barrymore Yes, who had162001:40:55.560 --> 01:40:58.520



been cast in the role but didn't show up on162101:40:58.560 --> 01:41:01.760



the first day of shooting, so they grabbed Robert Brown162201:41:01.800 --> 01:41:04.000



off the street and they're like, dude, we need you162301:41:04.039 --> 01:41:07.800



to play this part real quick, and he did it. Coincidentally,162401:41:07.840 --> 01:41:10.960



his first filming day on the episode was his fortieth birthday,162501:41:11.039 --> 01:41:14.640



so what a way to celebrate. Before star Trek, Brown162601:41:14.640 --> 01:41:17.960



shot a pilot with William Shatner about a Swede and162701:41:18.039 --> 01:41:22.159



an Irishman who emigrate to America. Brown played the Irishman.162801:41:22.199 --> 01:41:24.800



It aired in nineteen sixty three as an episode of162901:41:24.880 --> 01:41:30.720



the Dick Powell Theater show entitled Colossus. And there you go.163001:41:30.960 --> 01:41:33.000



Now you know more about Robert Brown than you ever163101:41:33.039 --> 01:41:35.960



did before. And last, but not least, in our remembrance list,163201:41:35.960 --> 01:41:38.479



we're going to say happy birthday to the great, very163301:41:38.520 --> 01:41:43.199



popular Rock Hudson. He, of course was the American actor,163401:41:43.239 --> 01:41:46.680



one of the most popular film actors of his time.163501:41:47.479 --> 01:41:51.479



He played John Wilder in Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles,163601:41:51.640 --> 01:41:56.960



in which was a nineteen eighties television mini series. But163701:41:57.079 --> 01:42:00.239



of course Rock Hudson's resume is superper long. There's a163801:42:00.279 --> 01:42:03.000



ton of stuff on it. Very famous actor from back163901:42:03.000 --> 01:42:07.239



in the day. Good luck guy. So happy birthday to164001:42:07.800 --> 01:42:11.680



Rock Hudson. And that does it for our list of remembrances.164101:42:11.680 --> 01:42:13.079



There were a lot of people to remember this week,164201:42:13.119 --> 01:42:14.760



but I think I all warranted a little bit of164301:42:14.800 --> 01:42:18.199



talking about so V. This week, I'm going to hand164401:42:18.399 --> 01:42:21.560



the flaming birthday candle to you instead of Charles. You164501:42:21.600 --> 01:42:23.800



think you can, think he can take care of this.164601:42:24.079 --> 01:42:29.279



I think I can, Yes, indeed. So let's start off164701:42:29.399 --> 01:42:34.119



with wishing a happy birthday to Paul McGann, who was164801:42:34.159 --> 01:42:37.720



a British actor who played the eighth Doctor beginning with164901:42:37.840 --> 01:42:46.399



the nineteen ninety sixth TV movie Doctor Who. Next, Chris Demitrol,165001:42:47.439 --> 01:42:52.520



who was a former actor who played Jean Luke Reiker165101:42:53.319 --> 01:42:58.960



and Ethan in the TNG fourth season episode Future Imperfect,165201:42:59.640 --> 01:43:01.119



which was kind of a I thought it was a165301:43:01.159 --> 01:43:05.079



clever episode because he is this poor little alien dude165401:43:05.079 --> 01:43:09.600



who's orphaned and he creates this whole alternate reality and165501:43:09.720 --> 01:43:14.399



kidnaps Riker so he can have a real friend. So165601:43:14.680 --> 01:43:19.520



happy birthday to him. Next, we have J. C. Brandy,165701:43:20.239 --> 01:43:24.159



British actress and musician who played the role of Marta165801:43:24.760 --> 01:43:30.239



Battanidis in TNG six season episode Tapestry when she was165901:43:30.520 --> 01:43:37.319



just seventeen years old, So happy birthday to you. Next,166001:43:37.720 --> 01:43:44.039



Christine Harnos, she played Tessa o'mond in the Voyager fifth166101:43:44.079 --> 01:43:51.359



season episode Timeless. Next there is we have Georgia King166201:43:52.279 --> 01:43:55.119



she was born. Oh I'm not doing the birth. We166301:43:55.159 --> 01:43:58.720



don't have time anyway. Sorry. Scottish actress who voiced Petra166401:43:58.880 --> 01:44:05.640



Amberdeine in Lower Deck's third season episodes Reflections, Trusted Sources166501:44:06.319 --> 01:44:10.520



and the Stars at Night. She also voiced the Bajoran166601:44:10.600 --> 01:44:19.439



outpost scientist in Reflection. Next to Happy Birthday to Scott McGinnis.166701:44:19.920 --> 01:44:23.640



He is a director and former actor from Glendale, California,166801:44:23.720 --> 01:44:28.560



who played the young Lieutenants. Was a great scene dubbed166901:44:28.600 --> 01:44:33.920



his Mister Adventure by Uhura in Star Trek three The167001:44:33.960 --> 01:44:37.119



Search for Stock and I believe got locked in the closet.167101:44:38.880 --> 01:44:43.159



So happy birthday to you, Scott. Next somebody who I167201:44:43.199 --> 01:44:48.000



actually met this past September, where this pretty much the167301:44:48.039 --> 01:44:53.199



same age, Very very nice lady Terry Ferrell. She played,167401:44:53.199 --> 01:44:57.640



of course gen Zia Dax in the first six seasons167501:44:57.680 --> 01:45:01.640



of DS nine and did an excellent job, I will say,167601:45:02.399 --> 01:45:06.880



and is gorgeous. She's I'm going to I know she167701:45:06.920 --> 01:45:09.880



has an Instagram account, and she is because she was167801:45:10.119 --> 01:45:15.600



a former model, she did modeling. But she also is167901:45:15.800 --> 01:45:22.039



very much into the aging naturally, so something I'm not168001:45:22.600 --> 01:45:27.079



ready to try just yet. And then last, but not least,168101:45:27.600 --> 01:45:33.039



Happy birthday to Jerry Harden, played Radieu in Next Gen168201:45:33.239 --> 01:45:39.279



first season episode When the Bout Breaks, Samuel Clemens in168301:45:39.319 --> 01:45:44.520



the fifth and sixth season episode Times Arrow and Times168401:45:44.640 --> 01:45:49.479



Arrah Part two, and Naria in the Voyager first season168501:45:49.640 --> 01:45:55.920



episode Emanations. So happy birthday to all of those find folks.168601:45:56.359 --> 01:45:59.000



Right slaving birthday, Candle goes to Paul.168701:46:04.239 --> 01:46:10.279



Paul, all right, Eric, you want to.168801:46:11.960 --> 01:46:22.079



I don't know what's going on. Good, good old day, continuous.168901:46:22.479 --> 01:46:25.039



Let's continue our birthday celebrations. First of all, we're going169001:46:25.119 --> 01:46:28.359



to say happy birthday to Mason Gooding, American actor who169101:46:28.359 --> 01:46:31.560



played Gabriel Hwang in Star Trek the card first season169201:46:31.640 --> 01:46:35.399



episode Stardust City Rag. He's the son of actor Cuba169301:46:35.439 --> 01:46:39.359



good and good Jr. Happy birthday to the great Bob169401:46:39.439 --> 01:46:43.279



Gunton Okay, absolutely amazing actor who played Benjamin Maxwell and169501:46:43.319 --> 01:46:48.000



Next Generation's fourth season episode The Wounded Memory Serves. That169601:46:48.159 --> 01:46:52.000



is the very first Cardassian episode that we got where169701:46:52.039 --> 01:46:55.079



we realized that Myles O'Brien's got kind of a you know,169801:46:55.239 --> 01:47:01.199



hardcore like borderline racist. You know Commander mentored him right169901:47:01.359 --> 01:47:05.680



a lot to overcome. Bob Gunn plays bad guys a lot.170001:47:05.800 --> 01:47:08.840



He was in the Shawshank Redemption as the Warden, if170101:47:08.840 --> 01:47:14.199



you recall. But an amazing actor, really really good, really170201:47:14.199 --> 01:47:18.640



great training there. Happy birthday to Tara Rosling, actress who170301:47:18.640 --> 01:47:21.560



played Tarina in the third through fifth seasons of Star170401:47:21.640 --> 01:47:25.319



Trek Discovery. A very bright spot in those seasons. I170501:47:25.439 --> 01:47:28.159



wish they had done more with that character. She was170601:47:28.279 --> 01:47:31.399



just delightful, very very cool. I would have liked to170701:47:31.439 --> 01:47:34.119



have gotten to know her better. But she brought a170801:47:34.159 --> 01:47:37.239



lot of class to that character, and during a challenging170901:47:37.239 --> 01:47:41.439



time on the show, for sure. Moving on, Happy birthday171001:47:41.479 --> 01:47:46.119



to Fumzileeole, South African actress who played Diatta and Nadoie171101:47:46.399 --> 01:47:49.199



in the third and fourth seasons of Star Trek Discovery.171201:47:50.600 --> 01:47:56.279



Happy birthday to the wild Man Adam Driver, an Academy171301:47:56.279 --> 01:47:59.119



Award nominated actor who starred in the sequel trilogy films171401:47:59.119 --> 01:48:03.039



from Star Wars, French Guys, The Force Awakens, Last Jedi,171501:48:03.560 --> 01:48:09.079



and Rise of Skywalker as the villainous Kylo Wren. But171601:48:09.279 --> 01:48:12.279



Adam Driver is a pretty interesting actor, and there's a171701:48:12.279 --> 01:48:14.520



big push right now to try to see. There was171801:48:14.560 --> 01:48:18.880



a Kylo Rent project that was in development and then171901:48:18.920 --> 01:48:21.800



got shelved by senior leadership at Disney, and there's a172001:48:22.039 --> 01:48:23.720



there's a big fan movement to see if they can172101:48:24.119 --> 01:48:26.439



resurrect that project and get it back. But he's a172201:48:26.479 --> 01:48:29.520



really interesting actors and a lot of cool stuff. Check172301:48:29.560 --> 01:48:31.479



him out if you've only ever seen him in Star172401:48:31.479 --> 01:48:34.680



Wars movies, check him out in a picture called Marriage Story.172501:48:35.239 --> 01:48:38.800



Oh man, you can really deliver the good, so good actor.172601:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.720



I'm you know, I think it's done a lot of172701:48:41.760 --> 01:48:46.399



really interesting works, So I do not sell Adam Driver short.172801:48:46.800 --> 01:48:51.039



Happy birthday to Robert Kaczinski, actor played Zeph in Star172901:48:51.119 --> 01:48:54.520



Trek Section thirty one, and that's all I'm gonna say173001:48:54.560 --> 01:49:00.840



about that. Happy Birthday to the luminous, delightful Lean Quinlan.173101:49:02.000 --> 01:49:06.039



She appeared in Uh sorry, I don't know my Stargate173201:49:06.439 --> 01:49:08.239



sg U.173301:49:08.720 --> 01:49:09.359



What hell is that?173401:49:09.560 --> 01:49:15.720



Yeah? Yeah, Stargate Universe. Okay, yeah, sorry, sorry, not my173501:49:15.800 --> 01:49:19.720



jam as to a politician. I really did a lot173601:49:19.760 --> 01:49:23.279



of homework for this. Uh tall ree politicians who serves173701:49:23.279 --> 01:49:25.960



as Senator of the United States Senate, played as Peters,173801:49:26.079 --> 01:49:30.279



medical technician of the LEWCID Clark in the really disturbing173901:49:30.399 --> 01:49:34.319



sence fiction film Event Horizon. Folks on the show, you174001:49:34.439 --> 01:49:42.079



know this movie. I love that movie, HP Lovecraft. Basically dark,174101:49:42.159 --> 01:49:45.800



af and pretty fun but really cool picture. If you've174201:49:45.800 --> 01:49:49.560



never seen Event Horizon, it's it's pretty great. Also in174301:49:49.760 --> 01:49:54.479



the Ron Howard blockbuster Apollo thirteen, where she was in174401:49:54.479 --> 01:49:57.159



that picture, which was really great. And a lot of174501:49:57.159 --> 01:49:59.840



people do not know this next movie, but this is174601:49:59.880 --> 01:50:03.680



the movie I discovered Kathleen Quinlan in. She'd already done174701:50:03.680 --> 01:50:06.760



a ton of really good work, but she was in174801:50:06.800 --> 01:50:09.800



a picture with Kurt Russell called Breakdown. Anybody here?174901:50:09.880 --> 01:50:10.640



No Breakdown?175001:50:12.760 --> 01:50:16.920



No, Yeah, put it on your list. It's it's dynamite,175101:50:17.079 --> 01:50:20.880



really great. They just Kurt Russell's like a guy looking175201:50:20.880 --> 01:50:22.720



for his missing wife when the car breaks down in175301:50:22.720 --> 01:50:25.439



the middle of the desert. You'll be chewing your fingers175401:50:25.479 --> 01:50:28.159



off by the time the movie's over. It is. It175501:50:28.279 --> 01:50:35.039



is incredibly stressful. It's not an easy watch. But man,175601:50:35.159 --> 01:50:38.000



is she good, really really great. So Kathleen k Quinland,175701:50:38.079 --> 01:50:41.000



we salute you and makes me kind of go on175801:50:41.079 --> 01:50:42.880



to go back and watch Event Horizon again. It's been175901:50:42.920 --> 01:50:47.920



a while. It's pretty crazy. Happy Birthday to the wonderful.176001:50:48.159 --> 01:50:52.399



I love this guy, Robert Beltrop okay, of course, who176101:50:52.399 --> 01:50:55.960



we've known for playing his role as Commander Chacote on176201:50:56.159 --> 01:51:00.000



a Voyager, right, and then reprise the role years later176301:51:00.439 --> 01:51:05.520



recently on Prodigy. I just think he's great. Remember the176401:51:05.560 --> 01:51:08.279



first couple of years you watch Voyager, you have to176501:51:08.319 --> 01:51:10.239



take on it there, then you watch it years later.176601:51:10.279 --> 01:51:13.079



He was doing some interesting stuff with that performance, right,176701:51:13.119 --> 01:51:15.159



I mean I think he got kind of like, you know,176801:51:15.880 --> 01:51:18.720



oh you're like Riker Light or something, right, you know,176901:51:18.800 --> 01:51:21.640



kind of a stocked supporting character, right, But he was177001:51:21.680 --> 01:51:24.720



doing some really interesting work and brought a lot of177101:51:24.800 --> 01:51:30.680



cultural resonance to Native American insights for the character as well.177201:51:30.760 --> 01:51:33.600



And I think, really go back and watch some of177301:51:33.600 --> 01:51:35.720



those now, it's just like he was. He was really interesting.177401:51:35.800 --> 01:51:39.000



So a big fan of him and would love to177501:51:39.039 --> 01:51:43.680



see that character get some more FaceTime whatever kind of177601:51:43.680 --> 01:51:47.720



subsequent projects get developed over there at Paramount, I'd love177701:51:47.760 --> 01:51:49.680



to see some more what happened to this character? Right?177801:51:49.680 --> 01:51:52.720



Where do you end up doing? Just a really good performer?177901:51:52.880 --> 01:51:56.640



So big fan speaking, A big fan give it up178001:51:56.640 --> 01:52:02.119



for Ming nah Win Okay, amazing actress and often voice178101:52:02.119 --> 01:52:07.359



actress Okay, who played bounty hunter Fenix Shand in Star178201:52:07.399 --> 01:52:10.359



Wars The Mandalorian and Star Wars The Book of Boba178301:52:10.399 --> 01:52:13.119



Fett And as well as embodying and voicing the character178401:52:13.600 --> 01:52:17.199



over on the Star Wars bad Batch universe as well.178501:52:17.279 --> 01:52:21.520



But McKnight wins pretty big talent. I mean she's really178601:52:21.560 --> 01:52:25.079



really good, right. I mean, of course, Marvel fans know178701:52:25.159 --> 01:52:27.760



are from you know, Agents of Shield on that series178801:52:27.840 --> 01:52:30.439



that she did before she found the Star Wars universe.178901:52:30.479 --> 01:52:34.279



And let's not forget she voiced did the original voice179001:52:34.319 --> 01:52:42.359



work for the original animated movie Moulan. Amazing. That's a179101:52:42.439 --> 01:52:45.479



terrific picture, it really is. You know, she was just179201:52:45.680 --> 01:52:48.840



great in it. I mean really really really good. You know,179301:52:48.920 --> 01:52:52.640



that movie does not get near the perspect it deserves179401:52:53.640 --> 01:52:57.119



in the Disney pantheon. She was just tremendous. You know,179501:52:57.359 --> 01:53:00.439



I never really wanted to go see the live actionization179601:53:00.760 --> 01:53:04.079



of it, but I'm very very fond of animated movies,179701:53:04.079 --> 01:53:07.439



and Milan is right up there, and meaning it's right179801:53:07.520 --> 01:53:10.960



up there because of me. Not so I'm hoping we179901:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.680



don't know what's coming up with this Mandalorian movie this summer.180001:53:13.840 --> 01:53:16.880



Will Fennix shan be In there could be. I mean,180101:53:16.920 --> 01:53:21.319



she's a grad draw people love her, so anytime, we're180201:53:21.359 --> 01:53:23.039



there for you and my friends. So a lot of180301:53:23.119 --> 01:53:27.880



great scorpios out there, my kindred people having birthdays this180401:53:27.960 --> 01:53:30.279



time of the year, which is lovely to see. But180501:53:30.319 --> 01:53:32.720



there's still more birthdays to come from Uncle.180601:53:32.560 --> 01:53:36.720



Jim, Thank you so much. Paul, I like to do180701:53:36.800 --> 01:53:40.560



the Klingons, so let's start off with saying Wow the180801:53:40.640 --> 01:53:43.920



Bill Bollander. He's the actor who played the albino and180901:53:44.000 --> 01:53:47.600



the DS nine second season episode Blood Oak, which was181001:53:47.840 --> 01:53:53.239



loaded with Klingons. So happy birthday to Bill Bolander. This181101:53:53.399 --> 01:53:56.439



next one isn't a Klingon. We want to say Happy181201:53:56.479 --> 01:53:59.720



birthday to Dan Shore. He wasn't a TG episode the181301:54:00.039 --> 01:54:02.560



This is Doctor Rador and he replies the role on181401:54:02.560 --> 01:54:06.479



the Voyager episode Ball's Prophets. And he also played Ram181501:54:06.520 --> 01:54:09.239



in the movie Tron and that's why I remember him.181601:54:09.760 --> 01:54:11.920



First movie I ever took my wife to see on181701:54:11.920 --> 01:54:14.239



our very first date, and I'm surprise she stayed with181801:54:14.399 --> 01:54:17.600



me after that movie. She hated it. I loved it.181901:54:17.960 --> 01:54:21.119



She hated it. Dan Shore played Ram in that movie.182001:54:21.159 --> 01:54:25.000



Happy Birthday to Dan Shore. Now we're going to get182101:54:25.039 --> 01:54:28.119



into some Klingons. We want to say kaplata. Stephan Root.182201:54:28.439 --> 01:54:31.479



He played Captain Cavada in the TNG fifth season episode182301:54:31.520 --> 01:54:36.720



Unification one and Unification two. He also voiced Lieutenant Jean182401:54:36.800 --> 01:54:40.560



jap Bolowski in the Lower Decks fifth season episode Star182501:54:40.840 --> 01:54:45.520



Based eighty. So happy birthday is Stephan Root. And last182601:54:45.920 --> 01:54:49.399



on my list, we want to say happy birthday to182701:54:49.800 --> 01:54:53.840



Eric Herepoint and there he is. He's the actor and182801:54:53.880 --> 01:54:57.159



author who appeared as Vovaal in the TNG episode of182901:54:57.159 --> 01:55:02.760



Liejon Sharat in Enterprise as Rogue Planet Harris and Enterprises Affliction,183001:55:02.880 --> 01:55:07.319



Divergence and Demons, and he did play a Klingon. He183101:55:07.359 --> 01:55:11.319



played Kotor and the Voyager episode Barge of the Dead.183201:55:11.920 --> 01:55:16.319



But he's best known as playing Detective George Francisco in183301:55:16.520 --> 01:55:22.479



Alien Nation, absolutely awesome series five TV movies. After they183401:55:22.520 --> 01:55:26.159



canceled it, you think maybe they canceled it prematurely perhaps,183501:55:26.760 --> 01:55:32.119



so Happy birthday to Eric Pierrepoint And now, guys, I think, yeah,183601:55:32.239 --> 01:55:35.119



we have time for a Star Trek story. You want183701:55:35.159 --> 01:55:36.439



to jump in here, Eric.183801:55:36.880 --> 01:55:40.800



Dd I absolutely do so. Our first Star Trek story183901:55:40.840 --> 01:55:43.399



of this week unfortunately is not a Shatner says what184001:55:43.520 --> 01:55:45.560



We don't have much in the in the way of184101:55:45.600 --> 01:55:48.800



that type of news, but we do have a nice184201:55:48.840 --> 01:55:51.439



story about Rick Berman and Brandon Braga, who say that184301:55:51.520 --> 01:55:55.560



they are not fans of contemporary language in modern Star184401:55:55.640 --> 01:55:59.800



Trek television shows. Rick Berman and Brandon Brega commented on184501:56:00.199 --> 01:56:04.199



language in Trek. They said, writing Star Trek and Rick,184601:56:04.399 --> 01:56:06.840



you can probably attest to this more than anybody. It's184701:56:06.960 --> 01:56:10.399



just a particular thing. The tone is kind of a184801:56:10.439 --> 01:56:13.439



timeless one. It's a bit more formal, but at the184901:56:13.439 --> 01:56:15.800



same time, you don't want to be too stiff. You185001:56:16.520 --> 01:56:20.239



want it to not be tainted by contemporary idioms, but185101:56:20.319 --> 01:56:23.199



at the same time, it can't be free of them.185201:56:24.479 --> 01:56:27.640



Braga continued, One of the reasons we wanted to do185301:56:27.840 --> 01:56:29.960



Enterprise was to loosen that up a little bit and185401:56:30.000 --> 01:56:31.960



have characters that talked a little bit more like you185501:56:32.000 --> 01:56:35.760



and me. Clearly, however, there were limitations put in place185601:56:35.800 --> 01:56:39.960



regarding just how closely even enterprises characters talk like quote185701:56:40.199 --> 01:56:44.800



you and me. Berman interjected, recalling the time he tuned185801:56:44.840 --> 01:56:48.159



into an episode of a Paramount plus Star Trek series.185901:56:48.199 --> 01:56:50.560



He said, I watched an episode of one of the186001:56:50.600 --> 01:56:53.239



newer Star Treks where people were saying things like give186101:56:53.279 --> 01:56:56.079



me five and it just doesn't sit right with me.186201:56:56.199 --> 01:57:00.880



There's a certain classical element to Star Trek. Berman appears186301:57:00.920 --> 01:57:03.159



to be talking about the scene from the controversial Star186401:57:03.199 --> 01:57:05.840



Trek Strange New World season three episode four and a186501:57:05.840 --> 01:57:10.479



half Vulcans, in which spock ethan Peck shared human customs186601:57:10.479 --> 01:57:14.279



with the Vulcan named Doug played by Patton Oswald. This186701:57:14.319 --> 01:57:16.560



isn't the first time in recent months that Brandon Braga186801:57:16.600 --> 01:57:20.000



has weighed in on aspects of the newer Star Trek productions.186901:57:20.039 --> 01:57:24.359



Earlier this year, during Star Trek Voyagers thirtieth anniversary panel187001:57:24.399 --> 01:57:27.600



at Star Trek Las Vegas, he spoke out more broadly187101:57:27.720 --> 01:57:34.439



against streaming area era TV's trend towards shorter runs, likening187201:57:34.560 --> 01:57:41.239



modern season lengths to tender relationships. He expressed hopes that187301:57:41.319 --> 01:57:48.760



Star Trek's own seasons will eventually grow longer again. You know,187401:57:48.920 --> 01:57:51.000



I think this is something that in particular, I know187501:57:51.039 --> 01:57:53.479



that Paul has talked about before in the past, and187601:57:53.520 --> 01:57:56.119



I know I feel like I've interjected about it in187701:57:56.119 --> 01:57:59.880



the past two But there is this idea of bringing187801:58:00.039 --> 01:58:06.479



contemporary language into a classical universe like Star Trek, where187901:58:07.199 --> 01:58:09.720



you know, if you reference something that only somebody who188001:58:09.760 --> 01:58:14.119



was born in the twenty first century would know, you're188101:58:14.159 --> 01:58:16.159



just kind of putting yourself in a little bit of188201:58:16.439 --> 01:58:17.039



danger there.188301:58:18.239 --> 01:58:18.439



You know.188401:58:18.600 --> 01:58:21.680



The Kelvin timeline kind of took it to the nth188501:58:21.800 --> 01:58:25.800



degree when they did like a Beastie Boys musical overlay,188601:58:25.840 --> 01:58:28.159



which is a little bit different. It's not the characters188701:58:28.199 --> 01:58:31.840



themselves speaking contemporary, but you know they use the musical188801:58:31.920 --> 01:58:35.600



overlay that kind of uped that paradigm a little bit.188901:58:35.680 --> 01:58:38.600



So anyway, I don't even know how I feel about it,189001:58:38.640 --> 01:58:41.319



but it is kind of interesting that these guys are189101:58:41.319 --> 01:58:43.439



not really it's do you think it just pulls you189201:58:43.520 --> 01:58:44.359



out of the.189301:58:44.319 --> 01:58:48.159



Moment all the yeah, because if you hear people it's189401:58:48.199 --> 01:58:51.000



all about idioms, right, If you hear people on a189501:58:51.119 --> 01:58:53.319



show that sat hundreds of years in the future using189601:58:53.359 --> 01:58:56.399



the same, like, you know, contemporary idioms, you hear your189701:58:56.439 --> 01:58:59.800



coworker saying, like the biggest defender of this was section189801:59:00.079 --> 01:59:00.640



thirty one.189901:59:00.800 --> 01:59:01.640



Oh my god.190001:59:01.840 --> 01:59:03.359



I mean it was just like at some point like190101:59:03.439 --> 01:59:05.359



she's just we love that for them. I mean, that190201:59:05.479 --> 01:59:09.159



is a current thing that you would see on like Instagram,190301:59:09.279 --> 01:59:13.439



Lingo or Twitter now or TikTok rather now, I mean190401:59:13.479 --> 01:59:16.079



it's just it's too contemporary. Man, it just pulls your190501:59:16.079 --> 01:59:18.840



height out or making jokes and stuff like using you know,190601:59:20.039 --> 01:59:24.439



current twenty first century references. I mean that is just abomination.190701:59:24.680 --> 01:59:27.720



And I guess it's just I don't know who who190801:59:27.760 --> 01:59:31.880



who writing. It's really at least like, Hi, I'm twelve190901:59:31.880 --> 01:59:34.000



and this is my first screenplay. How you doing right?191001:59:34.199 --> 01:59:35.479



There's a lot of that, you know.191101:59:35.640 --> 01:59:37.479



So it's just like they're just trying to be cute191201:59:37.520 --> 01:59:39.199



when they do that. Is that what's going on?191301:59:39.359 --> 01:59:41.479



Or are they're just appealing to the cheap seats. You know,191401:59:41.479 --> 01:59:43.680



they're trying to you know, they getting mandates to try191501:59:43.720 --> 01:59:46.399



to lure in younger viewers or something, right, But that191601:59:46.520 --> 01:59:48.600



is not how you do it. You know, that is191701:59:48.640 --> 01:59:51.520



not constantly good writing. So I'm with these guys, right,191801:59:52.239 --> 01:59:54.159



It's just you want to be taken away to another191901:59:54.239 --> 01:59:57.399



time and place with science fiction, right, you don't want192001:59:57.399 --> 02:00:00.119



to be like feeling like you're you know, going to192102:00:00.560 --> 02:00:03.800



you know, the Starbucks or the mall. I mean, it's192202:00:03.840 --> 02:00:05.560



just it's just it's like.192302:00:08.720 --> 02:00:14.880



At the end of Four and a half Falcons, I192402:00:14.920 --> 02:00:17.319



had to watch that little that was like like a192502:00:17.359 --> 02:00:20.960



little extra gift and I'd love to know the story192602:00:21.000 --> 02:00:25.279



behind that. Did they just riff on, you know, doing192702:00:25.359 --> 02:00:28.760



this this? Uh you know, we're SoC is teaching Doug192802:00:29.479 --> 02:00:34.239



uh these uh, you know, twentieth century phrases and whatnot.192902:00:34.319 --> 02:00:38.079



Because I just or maybe i'm you know, easily amused,193002:00:38.119 --> 02:00:41.000



but I just watched it multiple times and just laugh.193102:00:41.279 --> 02:00:43.800



It's funny, but it doesn't feel like it's appropriate for193202:00:43.920 --> 02:00:46.119



Star trek right as funny as hell, but you know193302:00:46.159 --> 02:00:47.640



what it felt like to me, It felt like two193402:00:47.680 --> 02:00:49.600



actors were having a really good time on the set193502:00:50.319 --> 02:00:53.359



and they were riffing and improving right, and people were like, oh,193602:00:53.399 --> 02:00:55.319



that's great, can you do a bonus scene for us?193702:00:55.439 --> 02:00:57.880



Right kind of thing? And it felt like they had193802:00:57.960 --> 02:00:59.920



just improved that thing together, which is.193902:01:00.239 --> 02:01:00.880



Does an outtake.194002:01:00.920 --> 02:01:04.720



It was cute, yeah, but it's don't sehorn that into194102:01:04.760 --> 02:01:09.119



my you know. Stranger Worlds is a very tenuous relationship194202:01:09.119 --> 02:01:11.600



with comedy, and sometimes they do it really well and194302:01:11.680 --> 02:01:15.720



sometimes they don't. Do we have time for another story194402:01:15.800 --> 02:01:17.119



or two or how are we doing.194502:01:18.840 --> 02:01:21.520



We're right at the two hour mark if you want194602:01:21.560 --> 02:01:23.479



to throw one more in, or we can bump untill194702:01:23.479 --> 02:01:24.000



next week.194802:01:24.479 --> 02:01:27.279



I'll do it because we're out next week. Out there194902:01:27.600 --> 02:01:28.560



to keep his contemporary.195002:01:28.560 --> 02:01:30.279



Because there is a new Star Trek movie in the195102:01:30.319 --> 02:01:33.880



works from Dungeons and Dragons duo Jonathan Goldsteine and John195202:01:33.880 --> 02:01:37.199



Francis Daily. This is big news. Jonathan gold Seene and195302:01:37.239 --> 02:01:39.640



John Francis Daly are the duo behind Dungeons and Dragons,195402:01:39.720 --> 02:01:46.119



Honor among Thieves and screenplay for Spider Man Homecoming, and195502:01:46.319 --> 02:01:49.560



they have just listed in Starfleet. They've been hired to write,195602:01:49.600 --> 02:01:51.520



produce and direct a new Star Trek film that we'll195702:01:51.520 --> 02:01:55.359



seek to revitalize the franchise after this languished for nearly195802:01:55.399 --> 02:01:58.479



a decade. We're not a big screen adventure. The new195902:01:58.479 --> 02:02:02.000



film will not, they say, not, be a continuation of196002:02:02.039 --> 02:02:05.279



any of the jj Abrams led reboot of the series,196102:02:05.359 --> 02:02:07.880



and it will not feature Chris Pine or any of196202:02:07.960 --> 02:02:11.119



the actors from those movies, despite the fact that Chrispine196302:02:11.159 --> 02:02:14.119



did Star and their Dungeons and Dragons film. So WHOA,196402:02:14.199 --> 02:02:16.680



I don't know what that's all read between the lines as.196502:02:16.600 --> 02:02:20.359



You will, thank you, but don't come back out.196602:02:20.560 --> 02:02:20.760



Yeah.196702:02:21.119 --> 02:02:25.000



In fact, well, plot details are being kept under wraps.196802:02:25.039 --> 02:02:26.720



The project is not connected to.196902:02:26.760 --> 02:02:30.359



Any previous or current television series, movie, or prior movie197002:02:30.399 --> 02:02:34.640



development projects whatsoever. So you're out of luck, John Luke197102:02:34.680 --> 02:02:38.239



Picard and Catherine Jane Way so sorry. Getting a new197202:02:38.279 --> 02:02:40.279



Star Trek out of dry Dock has been a priority197302:02:40.319 --> 02:02:46.319



for Paramout since David Ellison's Skydwnes Billionaire's hair jell Department197402:02:46.760 --> 02:02:49.960



took control of the company in August. Because the series197502:02:50.000 --> 02:02:52.960



is one of the most enduring properties in the studios library,197602:02:53.159 --> 02:02:55.600



maybe stopped thinking about it as a property and start197702:02:55.680 --> 02:03:01.159



thinking about it as a story. Daily and Jonathan Goldstein197802:03:01.199 --> 02:03:03.960



are known to Ellison and Company, and I sure update.197902:03:04.079 --> 02:03:06.560



I mean, my god, things get any worse. I just198002:03:06.640 --> 02:03:11.560



don't think I think anything as far as movie development198102:03:11.640 --> 02:03:13.640



from Paramount started franchise.198202:03:15.239 --> 02:03:17.399



I'll believe it when I see it.198302:03:17.479 --> 02:03:21.520



Yeah.198402:03:22.079 --> 02:03:25.760



I think Star Trek movies are tricky, and we seem198502:03:25.800 --> 02:03:28.680



to forget that as Star Trek fans because we will198602:03:28.720 --> 02:03:31.039



go to see it. But when you're making a movie,198702:03:31.079 --> 02:03:33.840



you're not trying to appeal to you and me. I198802:03:33.960 --> 02:03:36.479



like to use Star Trek poor as an example. My198902:03:36.680 --> 02:03:39.840



parents refer that as the Whale movie, and they want199002:03:39.880 --> 02:03:42.119



to see it and they hate start. They would never199102:03:42.159 --> 02:03:44.159



go to see a Star Trek movie, but they want199202:03:44.199 --> 02:03:46.960



to see the Whale movie. So I think when you're199302:03:47.000 --> 02:03:53.399



doing a movie, it's a tricky thing because you have199402:03:53.479 --> 02:03:55.479



to fill the seats and you're competing with all the199502:03:55.520 --> 02:04:00.760



superhero movies and everything else. So you know, if they199602:04:00.760 --> 02:04:03.800



put out a movie that doesn't have any recognizable characters199702:04:03.800 --> 02:04:06.800



in it, are my parents? Are your parents going to199802:04:06.840 --> 02:04:12.159



go and see? It's a which is why I think199902:04:12.239 --> 02:04:14.800



JJ Abrams did what he did because he had kirkis200002:04:14.840 --> 02:04:17.880



Spock defall back on. People wanted to go and see200102:04:18.159 --> 02:04:21.479



how these new actors played these roles. If you're going200202:04:21.560 --> 02:04:25.600



to create a new show on the USS Big Bucks200302:04:26.079 --> 02:04:29.520



and they're going to have Captain Joe and First Officer Jack,200402:04:30.000 --> 02:04:32.479



are people going to go and plunk down their twenty200502:04:32.520 --> 02:04:36.800



bucks to see that? I don't know. I mean I will,200602:04:36.920 --> 02:04:42.439



I'll be there, But you know that's my take on it.200702:04:42.520 --> 02:04:45.920



I think it's tricky. Whereas if they throw out a200802:04:46.000 --> 02:04:49.640



Captain Janeway or a Picard or something recognizable to the200902:04:49.680 --> 02:04:56.119



general public, yeah, sure they'll go. But Captain Joe, I201002:04:56.119 --> 02:04:56.479



don't know.201102:04:57.000 --> 02:05:01.439



I can hear the fans complaining about it already.201202:05:02.800 --> 02:05:06.239



Absolutely, absolutely and I would just throw in and has201302:05:06.239 --> 02:05:06.680



nothing to.201402:05:06.640 --> 02:05:08.680



Do with Star Trek. But again, if like you want201502:05:08.680 --> 02:05:12.680



to see a movie done well, right, fans of the genre,201602:05:12.880 --> 02:05:15.359



get your ass out there and see Predator right now.201702:05:16.319 --> 02:05:21.439



That most recent movie, Predator bad Lands is top shelf liquor. Okay,201802:05:21.560 --> 02:05:25.159



that is a dynamite motion picture. Everybody should be going201902:05:25.199 --> 02:05:28.079



to see that in the theater. And it's doing really well,202002:05:28.399 --> 02:05:30.319



and I would just encourage everyone to go see it202102:05:30.359 --> 02:05:33.840



at least once. That's what kind of stuff you make.202202:05:33.880 --> 02:05:36.560



A Star Trek movie like that, you know that is202302:05:36.600 --> 02:05:40.840



smart and interesting and fresh and cool. Just make it cool?202402:05:40.960 --> 02:05:41.279



All right?202502:05:41.359 --> 02:05:43.600



Is that so hard? I mean, you know it shouldn't be.202602:05:44.239 --> 02:05:48.039



But uh, and you know, but that's if you if again,202702:05:48.079 --> 02:05:50.720



if you're missing on that one, you're missing out big time.202802:05:50.840 --> 02:05:52.319



That deliveries like a freight train.202902:05:55.199 --> 02:05:57.760



Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to see Wicked Are Good203002:05:58.079 --> 02:06:03.359



over the weekend. Yeah, that's that's what's going on with me.203102:06:03.800 --> 02:06:07.880



All right, guys, we'll guess what. Another show to us203202:06:08.039 --> 02:06:10.760



and another one gone and another one gone. That's Queen.203302:06:10.800 --> 02:06:11.640



By the way, did.203402:06:16.119 --> 02:06:21.840



David, I haven't heard any music about the Queen?203502:06:21.920 --> 02:06:26.399



All right? Okay, you know what, David, if you want him, David,203602:06:26.439 --> 02:06:29.119



if you want to get back at Uncle Jim, put203702:06:29.560 --> 02:06:35.199



those ridiculous filters where he's got like the the cat203802:06:35.319 --> 02:06:38.880



face on him, you know, the whole there we go video.203902:06:41.239 --> 02:06:43.600



Yeah, give me some or something, you know.204002:06:43.800 --> 02:06:45.079



No, no, no, you got to look like.204102:06:48.479 --> 02:06:51.079



So. Uh. There will be no show next week because204202:06:51.079 --> 02:06:53.479



it's Thanksgiving here in the States, so we'll have to204302:06:53.479 --> 02:06:55.720



wait another week to find out what happens to Con204402:06:55.800 --> 02:06:59.000



and his crew and the con Radio drama, So tune204502:06:59.039 --> 02:07:02.039



in for that. Enjoy your Turkey Day, Please have a204602:07:02.079 --> 02:07:04.880



good time, stay safe, enjoy your time with your family.204702:07:05.439 --> 02:07:07.399



And I just want to say thank you so much204802:07:07.399 --> 02:07:10.479



to Paul for hanging out and trek talking with us tonight.204902:07:10.600 --> 02:07:11.920



Thank you so much. Paul.205002:07:12.479 --> 02:07:13.399



I really help and keep.205102:07:13.319 --> 02:07:16.479



The trivia segments coming because we never know what to expect.205202:07:16.520 --> 02:07:20.039



Now it's like it's totally surprising. It's just super fun205302:07:20.279 --> 02:07:23.399



and I really enjoyed them a lot, so I think205402:07:23.439 --> 02:07:26.920



that's one of the funnest aspects of this year's shows.205502:07:27.000 --> 02:07:29.920



It's just been so fun and unpredictable. So kudos to205602:07:29.960 --> 02:07:30.960



you man. Keep those coming.205702:07:33.560 --> 02:07:35.680



The reason why I used to put the trivia stuff205802:07:35.760 --> 02:07:38.800



on our notes. But I'm going to tell you guys205902:07:38.920 --> 02:07:43.880



why I stopped doing that, because our podcast is why206002:07:44.159 --> 02:07:48.039



and I like the live reaction. If you already know206102:07:48.159 --> 02:07:51.439



the question in advance, google it, you can look it up.206202:07:51.760 --> 02:07:54.119



And then we don't get that David not knowing who206302:07:54.199 --> 02:07:57.399



Queen is or Ghostbusters, and we don't get those honest moments.206402:07:57.439 --> 02:08:05.039



So in no way am I intentionally going out of206502:08:05.079 --> 02:08:07.640



my way to take me super difficult, hard questions that206602:08:07.680 --> 02:08:10.079



you're not going to know. I try to tailor them206702:08:10.119 --> 02:08:13.000



to what you're going to know so we can just206802:08:13.039 --> 02:08:16.159



have some out. And I just want to say thank206902:08:16.159 --> 02:08:18.159



you so much to Eric finding out and Trek talking207002:08:18.199 --> 02:08:19.079



with us tonight as well.207102:08:19.119 --> 02:08:23.199



Thank you so much, Eric, you bad good time as always, and.207202:08:23.239 --> 02:08:25.399



Thank you so much to v as well. Thank you207302:08:25.479 --> 02:08:26.000



v Oh.207402:08:26.079 --> 02:08:29.880



Yes, I enjoyed that privia too, even though it's you know,207502:08:30.000 --> 02:08:33.159



shakes the coplibs out of the back of my brain207602:08:34.359 --> 02:08:36.439



because a lot of the stuff I know, but I207702:08:36.560 --> 02:08:40.000



just forgot that I knew it, so I enjoy it too.207802:08:41.840 --> 02:08:44.319



It's fun. And thank you so much to David. And207902:08:44.359 --> 02:08:47.399



what did you think about the other day to put208002:08:47.399 --> 02:08:48.439



together for you.208102:08:48.439 --> 02:08:49.600



You know, I.208202:08:51.800 --> 02:08:53.720



Need to go back and look at it because I208302:08:53.840 --> 02:08:58.439



was too busy looking at my tablet reading the birthday.208402:09:00.079 --> 02:09:02.119



I couldn't because I I was so afraid I was208502:09:02.159 --> 02:09:05.640



going to because I saw I saw part of it.208602:09:05.720 --> 02:09:08.680



But I will go back and watch it when you208702:09:09.319 --> 02:09:13.800



post it. But I thank you, David. That is greatly appreciated.208802:09:15.039 --> 02:09:19.239



You're welcome. I's been a lot of fun. Now I'm208902:09:19.239 --> 02:09:21.439



going to show for some donuts after.209002:09:21.239 --> 02:09:22.840



I dont.209102:09:25.000 --> 02:09:27.600



Doing you too, but look up the queens and check209202:09:27.640 --> 02:09:28.359



out some que.209302:09:29.359 --> 02:09:35.479



Okay Bohemian rhaptidy.209402:09:36.640 --> 02:09:39.239



Absolutely, yes, that's another classic.209502:09:40.880 --> 02:09:43.359



Before but I just don't know. I just never knew209602:09:43.399 --> 02:09:44.960



who did it or what the name was.209702:09:46.720 --> 02:09:47.439



It's gorgeous.209802:09:48.920 --> 02:09:51.880



Master trying to make it super super easy, and I209902:09:51.920 --> 02:09:57.319



guess I failed. It was fun anyways, I mean, most210002:09:57.439 --> 02:10:00.279



excellent host Uncle Jim. Thank you for listening so much.210102:10:00.319 --> 02:10:03.479



We really appreciate all of you guys out there, every210202:10:03.520 --> 02:10:06.640



single one of our patrons. We appreciate you all. Thank210302:10:06.680 --> 02:10:09.439



you so much, and please stay safe and be good210402:10:09.439 --> 02:10:13.039



to each other, everybody, and come back again next show,210502:10:13.159 --> 02:10:16.199



same bad time, same bat channel. I mean, most excellent hosts,210602:10:16.239 --> 02:10:21.000



Uncle Jim saying yelling, frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, good.210702:10:20.920 --> 02:10:28.239



Night night my elf, job, all stations.210802:10:28.560 --> 02:10:35.239



I'm ready for departure, sir, some problem Rica. I'm just210902:10:35.279 --> 02:10:37.279



hoping this isn't the usual way on missions will go.211002:10:37.439 --> 02:10:41.319



Say oh, no, number one. I'm sure most will be211102:10:41.399 --> 02:10:47.560



much more interesting. Let's see what's out there.211202:10:49.920 --> 02:10:58.079



Engage.211302:10:56.199 --> 02:11:03.920



Okay, we're done.