Jan. 23, 2026

Episode 669- Starfleet Academy - "Kids These Days" & "Beta Test" discussion

Episode 669- Starfleet Academy - "Kids These Days" & "Beta Test" discussion
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Starfleet Academy: A New Beginning. In this episode of Trek Talk and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the crew discusses the highly anticipated Starfleet Academy series, exploring its themes, character dynamics, and the importance of fan engagement. They delve into the pilot episode, 'Kids These Days,' highlighting the emotional depth and nostalgia that resonates with long-time Star Trek fans. The conversation also touches on the visual and audio elements of the show, as well as the varied feedback from the community, showcasing the excitement and hope for the future of Starfleet Academy. The conversation delves into the latest episodes of Star Trek, focusing on character dynamics, storytelling, and the cultural themes presented in the series. The hosts express their thoughts on the portrayal of villains, character development, and the importance of diversity and acceptance within Starfleet Academy. They also discuss fan reactions and the future of the franchise, highlighting the significance of storytelling in the Star Trek universe. It was fantastic, a triumph, and a fun show.
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against Key talking about this series.

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Well good evening, trek e's and trekkers around the globe.

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But it's Thursday, January twenty second, twenty twenty six. We're

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still alive. We're still here. And this is episode six

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hundred and sixty nine of Track Talking and Beyond. I'm

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your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. And before we go

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through farow, I'd like to introduce my incredible, my awesome treksperts,

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my crew. We'll start off with Eric. Eric is out

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in Portland. How you doing tonight?

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Eric?

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You know I'm doing okay, Jim. I am extremely excited

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to be talking about Starfleet Academy tonight. Also heavy on

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my mind. Some of the stuff going on in the

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Midwest stands wrong, folks. I'm with you.

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Yeah, it's it's it's tough for sure. And also out

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in Portland we have a very all toy guy.

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Paul. How you doing tonight, Paul.

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I'm doing okay, man, I'm doing all right. Quick question,

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Did I notice some new images in the music slide

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show today? It seems like have we had Saturn three

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in there this entire freaking time and I've just never

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noticed it?

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Oh my god.

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It wasn't originally in there though, well, and it.

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Was, there was a it was originally there, but there

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was a revamp that David did where the graphics became

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a little bigger and a little bit more prominent, and

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now it's easier to see and kind of like.

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So I'd just like to make a point in that

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case before I'd be quiet. All right, you're telling me

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that in our pre show theme music slide show we

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have Saturn three but not Planet of the Apes. I

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get that correct.

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You're absolutely correct.

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Yes, okay, that needs to be rectified. I'll be back

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when it is so, thank you.

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Sounds like we need a lyrical rewrite.

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We are a country of apes. Hasn't that been abundantly

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made clear in the last We are a nation of

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pre Damn, let's you know, be true to your school.

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Yeah, what was that dirty apes?

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Dirty?

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Yeah?

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Well, I'm excited to talk about Strange, Strange, strange new Academy.

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Yeah.

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I love Strange Academy. It's my favorite. Yeah, I'm excited

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to watch.

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It's going to be fine with us not from Portland,

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from Virginia, our very old v doing all right.

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And with regard to that opening, I will confess that

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due to I don't know if it's my vision is

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not great, but I thought that those Star Wars when

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are they not droids? Those little creatures at the end, Yeah,

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I thought those were dancing skeletons. I have been keeping

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that a secret for a while. And the very well,

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if you you.

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Need to upgrade the four knew.

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No, it's when I got when I got new new

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contact lenses, and it's like, oh.

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Can you can you sue your optometrists from help?

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It's I mean, I thought it was, you know, like

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a nod to not to Disney Silly Symphony with those

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wonderful dancing skeletons. You know, I don't know.

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I got a time that David and the Queen's off

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the mantle.

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And skeletons, sleheads, queens with.

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Not just fun but education.

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Mm hmm.

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You learned something every day.

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And we also David, he's an engineering wizard.

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He is they're doing tonight, David, just.

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For everybody knows, I am well awake and sorry for

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the late It was kind of because fleet did not

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get in a sleep last night.

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I'm really tired.

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So as far as I'm willing to revamp it again,

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if you guys want so, we'll lead up to a vote.

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Thank Yeah. I was gonna say that's that's a team effort.

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Yeah, that's a little bit just throwing some.

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Dancing skeletons in there.

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Oh boy, definitely not every.

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I'm doing all right, Okay, Eric, where's a hoovi and reference.

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There's a couple of there's doctor who k nine doctoring

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online or something like that.

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All right.

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I just want to make sure. I just want to

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make sure.

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The only thing that I didn't get to say on

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was nobody asked me which doctor to put in the video,

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and of course I would have put David Tenant, but

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I'm happy to see Tom Baker there.

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That could be only one.

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That's what that's what the old timers say. Paul That's

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that's right.

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Hey, well I think any who, how many doctors have

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an Order of the British Empire? That said? I like that?

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I think too.

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I think is too so you know, yeah, all right,

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Jenny Whitaker could have gone in there too.

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I mean she she was cool.

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But that's a topic for today.

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Before we go too far, though, I want to let

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you guys know, if you missed last week's show.

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What the hell you're waiting for?

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Go back to Trek Talking dot com and check it

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out because we had a last talking with Margaret, So

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go back and check that out. And while we're on

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the topic, on the twenty ninth, we're gonna have Gabrielle

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with us. And who is she?

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The she voiced to Lynn in a Star Trek Lower Decks.

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And I can't believe she's gonna be I know.

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Well, I mean, I you know, I know her personally.

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I mean we've just became, you know, best buds. Uh

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you know, at that at that con in September, I mean,

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she when I got her to sign And I'll do

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a screenshot I'm trying to talk today, okay, anyway of

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the autographed picture to Lyn with her infamous line or

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one of her infamous lines, but we'll talk about you know,

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she she's actually quite a force to be reckoned with,

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but funny as heck. So I'm just so excited I

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can't I can't even tell.

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She will be with us next week.

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And then, as if that's not enough, on the twelfth,

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we alsought Adam Emoy will be going, Wow, that's another one.

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And I've got some other ones lined up but I'm

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not going to say until they're conferred. But one of

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them is a really cool clean out on a brand

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new show. And that's all I'm going to say. And

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I just talked to him as just tonight matter of fact,

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and yeah, I'll let you guys know as soon as

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anything materializes. So tonight is going to be a lot

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of fun because tonight is the night that we've been

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waiting for for a long long time. Starfleet Academy is

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we get to talk about it. This is what Star

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Trek fans live for, New Star Trek, boldly going where

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no one has gone before, New worlds, new civilizations, the

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whole nine yards. It's here. It's called Starfleet Academy. We're

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gonna break it down. We're gonna dive right in. We're

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gonna have some fun talking about it. You're a fan

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of Starfleet Academy, you're in the right place for tonight.

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We're gonna be talking about the pilot episode. Yeah you

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heard me, correct, guys, pilot episode yes, pilot episode called

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Kids These Days, and episode two entitled Beta Tests, So

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we're gonna dive right in and talk about that. Also,

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we're talking about the new show. That means there's a

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new theme song. We're going to talk a little bit

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about that as well. We're going to share that song

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with you, guys and talk about it if you haven't

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heard it yet. And there's a brand new Star Trek

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sixtieth anniversary montage as well that we're also going to

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talk a little bit about. Yes, Star Trek is sixty.

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Hard to believe, isn't it. So we have a lot

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going on, but don't worry, we're still going to squeeze

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in some fans shout outs. So that's where we get

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to thank fans just like you around the globe for

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being fans of ours. We're not going to be doing

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trivia this week with Uncle Jim because we're going to

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have fan reactions and fans scores for this week's episode.

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But we do have some Star Trek and sci fi

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birthdays to talk about, so we're gonna have a lot

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of fun hang out with us.

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And you guys want to dive in and get some

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fan shout outs?

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Yeah, I think we a fan shout out time hit it, David.

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Look at that beautiful video.

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I love it all right.

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Our so our very first fan shout out this week.

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It goes out to mister Kevin Maloney, who was saying

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hello to us from Ireland. And I got to think

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in this week and I was thinking, gosh, I need

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to know more about these countries. I never know what

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to say, you know, oh you have great, great food,

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great culture, great whatever. And I was like, okay, obscure facts.

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So here we go. This week's shout outs by Eric

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All will contain one obscure fact. So Ireland's obscure fact

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that I looked up today was that in the sixteenth

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century they had a pirate Queen, Grace O'Malley, ruled the

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seas off the west coast of Ireland, commanding many ships

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and doing piratey things because she was anti Queen Elizabeth first.

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So there you go, Kevin Maloney proud tradition of anti

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government piracy. Let's just saying hello to us. Also saying

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hello this week to Caz Hesford, who's saying hello from

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man Chester in the UK, and I learned that Manchester

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once had the world's first passenger railway station with a

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secret underground canal for horses. I wish you could have

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seen that. Look it up, I know, kes Hesford, Thank

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you so much for saying hello to us from Manchester.

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We appreciate it. Also saying hello this week to Ben

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Vorbek who is in South Africa, and I learned that

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South Africa has the world's oldest known meteor impact structure.

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It's so big you can't even see it from the ground.

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It's called the Red de Fort Dome in the Free State.

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So there you go, two billion years old. Go check

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it out. Ben, you've probably been there. Thanks for saying

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hello to us. And last but not least, we're gonna

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say hello to Matt McGuire, a top fan from Scotland.

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And I learned today that Scotland has a tiny island

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called eileen In in lach Moy and it was historically

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known as the floating dairy pasture. They used to keep

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cows there, and in fact, they considered it a milk

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bank because it was a place that when all of

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the cows got attacked on the mainland or like on

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the Big Island, these cows were still producing milk for

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the good guys. So there you go. Look it up. Interesting,

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Matt maguire, the more you know, v yes, Well, who

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would you like to say?

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Well, I like to say hello to a couple of

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people who I did not look up interesting little factoids.

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No, that's awesome.

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Well saying hello first to Ray Jordan from Doylestown, Pennsylvania.

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Next there's a shout out to Johnny Ray Petrie from Virginia.

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So you're somewhere in my state. I don't know where,

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but glad to have you saying hello to us. And next,

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hello to Nicole Heathcote. And I've only got a partial

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I don't know if this was Uncle Jim. I have

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sask I'm guessing that's Saskatchewan with a little Canadian flag,

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and I'm always glad to say hello back to our

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neighbors from the north. And last but not least, Charie

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Johnson saying hello to us from Florida. So thank you

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all for that. Next, I'm passing the shout out candle

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or whatever.

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You Charles, Okay, I'm going to grab the megaphone.

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Start off.

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Nice.

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Sorry about that.

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Well.

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Welcome to Randy Evans from Florida. I hope you've been

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joined the it's your weather, Randy. Welcome to Ben Jacko

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from La California. Welcome Ben. Welcome to Stone. Read Marshall

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from Wichita, Files, Texas. Welcome Stone, and welcome Mike h

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mm subs substeinally from Cleveland. Welcome Michael. Hey, Paul, catch

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the microphone, get the mega Yeah, whatever, I can't think megaphone.

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Smooth transition. I lost that one.

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Is good.

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I just hope we have that recorded so we can

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play back endlessly. It's my one hope. I appreciate that.

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Friend.

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Well, let's get the hell out of the United States

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and over to Europe. Please anywhere but here. Let's go

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and say hello a good friend. Vulgar who's sending us

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Germanic greetings from the Great Burg of Berlin. So Vulgar,

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wonderful to know you're out there. I aspire to visit

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your country. I am a big fan, and we do

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like to leapfrog from one continent to another, because really,

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to us here on trek talking something is foreboding, as

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the Atlantic Ocean is just a mud puddle, and we

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can happily step across one continent to the next quite easily.

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So we're going to go over to Brazil, Bonito and

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say hello to our friend Jose Torino Domingos. I think

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that you are living in a pretty special place, Jose,

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from all I've heard from folks who traveled there recently.

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Brazilian on me, wait, let's go back to Europe, because

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let's not do anything in any kind of sequential.

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Order that would be crazy.

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So we're going to go over to the Netherlands to

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get and say hello to ZEVENCN Zeph Vanken. That sounds

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like it'd easily be a star trek name. That should

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be somebody on beijor or whatever. You'll checked with Zeph

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Bankrn to make sure that doesn't violate the the wills

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of the prophets. I'm not sure, but Zeph Banken very

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star trek name, sir or ma'am, depending on which the

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case might be. With a name like Zeph, who can tell.

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I'm not really sure, but I'll be looking that up later.

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So thank you. And wonderful day from your zeph Finally,

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let's go all the way down on the other half

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of the hemispheres there to New Zealand, where all kinds

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of amazing things get created, including Hobbits and our good

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friend ray Wynn Hagland. Ray, when it is wonderful to

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hear from you. It is just so reassuring to know

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that we have Star Trek fans that are experiencing not

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just the show we're talking about tonight, but just have

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been kindling a lifelong fondness for optimistic views of the future,

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which I think we all need right now. So knowing

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that we have that unification, it's quite wonderful not unification

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episode of the munification of mine.

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So weet I would absolutely agree.

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And I've got a few fans to thank on my

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list as well. First off, we want.

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To say hello and thank you to John little Brick Junior,

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who says I'm from Starbase Oswego, New York, Live long

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and prosper.

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Interesting tidbit He's from the United States. I just looked

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that up.

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So I also want to say hello and thank you

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to jesse Garcia who's listening to us in Long Island,

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New York. Interesting fact also from the United States of

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America that you didn't know that. We also want to

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say hello to Paul du Jat from Tampa Bay, Florida.

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Guess what, also from the United States of America.

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Shock and dismay, And finally I want to say hello

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the guys albody who's from Rockford, Illinois and never going

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to guess from the US.

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Those are more interesting tidbits. I know they don't I

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erics at all.

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No, no, but I have a tidbit about Reese. Alford is

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literally thirty miles from where I grew up, So there

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you go. My first concert I ever went to was

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in Rockford, Illinois. It was cheap trick.

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Oh the dream Police, huh.

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They're inside of my head?

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Friends? Is do you think Paul du Jat is somehow

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related to gold Ducat? I mean it seems like a

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very similar lineage there. Yeah, you know, you know, I

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don't know.

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Do all Cardassians look the same Paul, I don't know,

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Oh not at all.

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I'm just.

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Later on, later on you can drink canar with DeMar.

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I have a.

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Wedding. But I could be wrong, so I.

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Would have been there. I might have been there.

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You never can tell. So that's our friend shoutouts. Guys,

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if you'd like to see yourself immortalized in a fan

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shout out, head over to our Turnk Talking and Beyond

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Facebook page. At the top a live, long and prosper post.

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Pin there, tell us where you're from these some emojis.

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It catches my attention. If you see a heart next

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to your name from yours, truly, you want to tune

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into the next podcast because you are going to be featured.

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And I know, I know there's a lot of people

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that aren't seeing these wonderful video here that David put together,

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but there is a video that accompanies these fan shout outs,

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and you can send us your pictures and we will

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put them right up here so everybody will see them.

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So please do that. We would really appreciate it, all right,

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guys not some of our fans shout outs. And now

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we get to delve, and I mean, dell, that's been

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a long time since we delve, so let's start delving.

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So before we get too far, we're going to delve

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into the Star Trek's sixtieth anniversary intro, the one that

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they just put out before Starfleet Academy, Dave had roll

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to take for you Wars.

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And then these guys the brand, the sixtieth anniversary mobile

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and the accompanying intro. Eric, what'd you think?

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I mean, it's so cool, just the way it transforms

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the colors, the way it kind of zooms and like

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has that single shot. It's amazing. I love it.

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The TS Enterprise bridge sound effects at the very very end,

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which is really cool.

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Paul, what do you think? Did you like it? Oh?

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Yeah, it's nice. You know, we've been we've been seeing

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the same uh, you know, buffer for a while, right,

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so it's good to see something that's new, and it's

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it's just good to see them, you knowledging that this

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is going to be a big deal, the sixtieth anniversary,

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so all kinds of craziness.

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Yeah, let's go on. I like it. How about you, Childs?

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You like it?

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Hey, Buddy and Chips, Anthony m hm, live long and prosper.

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How about you and me? Did you like it?

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Yes, I really really did. It's just just the way

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they morph from one ship to the other. And I

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want it was it Eric that made the little bridge sound.

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I want him to try to do that again.

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That was great.

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Yeah, yeah, no it wasn't. But that's okay. Try for effort. Yeah, no,

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I love it.

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That was.

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Did you like it? Yeah?

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I liked it. I liked the sound the music that

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went with it too. I thought that was pretty good.

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And uh yeah, the whole sound at the end.

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I kind of accidentally stopped the podcast right at the

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ind and I didn't get all of it in. I

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was like, oh no, no, man, right bad, So you know,

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but it isn't there.

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What I thought was about it was cool if you pay.

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If you didn't notice it is it starts off with

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the TS enterprise, goes into the movie enterprise, and then

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it goes through all the other shows and then it

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goes into the Strange New World Enterprise later.

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So release in release order, not in chronological order.

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They know they don't go to get disappointed that they

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didn't the Cerritos, which I think should have been in

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there with a proto star from Prodigy, but they only

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stuck with the live action.

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H But it was now I think the Proto stars

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in there. I think the Proto stars in there.

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I could play it a game for you guys, and

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she can.

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Yeah, let's do it.

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That's really short, ain't.

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There's I am say.

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Mm hmmm m m yep, they didn't. No, No, that

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would be a big negative. Yeah that is, that is

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I don't know what. That's definitely not a.

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They didn't include the Cerritos or the Proto stars.

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But I mean those are animated. Those are the animated

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you know, spokes of the franchise. And this is a

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live action show they're premiering, and it's just you know,

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it gets too busy.

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But I liked it nonetheless. It was it was created,

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it's very good. Now it's the sixtieth anniversary and gave

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us something different. And so now guys, it's it's that time.

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We have a brand new show. And with a brand

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new show means we get a brand new theme song

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and a brand new intro. David roll the tape out.

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Mm hm.

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Hm hm hm.

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So there's the new theme saw and the new intro.

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So Eric, what do you think?

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Okay, So let's go visual and then audio. So visually

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I think it's great. I love how it kind of

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follows in the lines of these kind of credits that

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have images that sort of morph into scenes that then

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morph into images and that kind of thing. So I

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really like the visuals and the way that kind of

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plays out. I have to admit, this is the first

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theme song that I haven't been completely in love with

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the first time I heard it. You know, it has

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like the quality of it is very nice. It has

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a very kind of light touch to it. There's a

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lot of optimism in it. You kind of hear hope

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in the in the music. You know, it's got a

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little bit of that kind of like war college military

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snare drum thing in the background. So I think it

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has elements of the show and it's trying to kind

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of like represent the show through the music. It just

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doesn't have a theme that I can remember. I've listened

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to it a few times and I can't find the theme,

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So that that's a little weird for me as a

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person who is a musician and just like is really

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locked into things like the music for shows. So yeah,

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I wish I liked it better. The audio is not

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it's just not I don't I'm not in love with it,

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but the visuals are great.

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So I I the first time I heard it, I

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heard that I lay a theme song from the motion.

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Oh yeah, the first couple of notes.

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And I was like, oh wow, and then it quickly

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changed into I want to say, the Picard flute type

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of montage from Star Trek to card and then it

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went into the military snares and there's no theme, there's

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not a there's there's not a theme song that like

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Deep Space nine or Voyager or TG that's going to

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stick in your head that you're going to remember. And

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that was that was a disappointment that it doesn't actually

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have a theme song that I could play as a clip,

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like when we're doing trivia with Uncle Jim and I'm

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doing Buck Rogers and the different shows. I don't think

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I could do. There's not a recognizable theme. Unfortunately minor drawback,

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very very minor. But I would have liked to hear

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a theme song that was more recognizable and more more

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closer to a traditional theme, not like, you know, it's

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been a long road getting from there to hear.

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Type something're talking about that.

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You know what is does something like they did with

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you know Something Classically, it should have brought Shatner. Shatner

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come up with something, But that's just my opinion. But

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I do like the visuals of Start Free academy being built,

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and the whole thing is really really well done.

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Paul, what do you think your your your audio experts.

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Yeah, I'm really a lot more interested in talking about

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the show than the credits, right, to be frank, but.

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I thought that was fine.

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It's it's fine, right, It's just you know, I like

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the idea that it starts with an image of a seed,

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because that's really the you know, thematic element of what

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it does about, right, growing from infancy, through training and

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growing and becoming indult in the seeds that we plant today,

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if we you know, kindle them appropriately and take care

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of them, they'll grow into something impressive and enduring period.

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So you know, I think it's good, you know, and

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you know, it's I can't think of an example in

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Star Trek, but there are the TV shows that have

480
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.920
started off with like, you know, one set of opening

481
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.400
credits and then they're sort of going to maybe need

482
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.240
to finesse this a little bit. I think they've done

483
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.039
that a couple of times in Abo, where it's just like,

484
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.759
you know, look at the credits until they kind of

485
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.519
you know, finance something. So maybe this will stick around,

486
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.759
maybe it won't, who knows, but it conveys what it

487
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:37.359
needs to do. But you know, yeah, so you know,

488
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.839
it's a different it's a different era, So I'm fine

489
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:42.720
with them. They're fine their credits.

490
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:43.960
What do you think me?

491
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.000
I liked it. I saw the seed knowing, you know,

492
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.319
what I learned about the burn and everything like that,

493
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:58.000
that they're starting new and new life and you know,

494
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:03.000
new civilizations to orrow a term. Yeah, I liked it

495
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:07.079
since that it was because I'm not I'm sorry, Eric,

496
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.079
I'm not a fan of the Enterprise theme music just

497
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.400
so jarring. This was more in line with it, And

498
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.720
I'm glad that I wasn't the only one who heard

499
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.599
the Aliah theme, just a couple of notes that I

500
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:24.240
heard there quickly. It's pretty yeah, but you're right, it

501
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:29.240
isn't particularly memorable, but who knows, maybe they'll change it.

502
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:32.440
But it was a really that they put a lot

503
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:38.160
of thought and effort into into, you know, the whole

504
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.119
starting over and building and here we are.

505
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.559
What was cool about it was what made me think

506
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:51.240
that Aiah theme. And Paul can correct me, or anyone

507
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.079
can correct me if I'm wrong. But when the credits

508
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:56.319
come on and we see Starford Academy logo, for the

509
00:32:56.319 --> 00:33:00.240
first time. Is that not the exact same logo that

510
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.799
we saw in the director's cut of Star trekor motion picture?

511
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.960
Is that the same letters lettering that we saw.

512
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.559
I mean, it's kind of a standard Star Trek font,

513
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:13.839
but yeah, I do believe that it was the one

514
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.799
that they used in the director's cut.

515
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.200
Yeah, and that made me think right away of the

516
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.440
motion picture, that's where that came from.

517
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:23.559
Well, David, what about you?

518
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:26.359
Yeah.

519
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.279
I think the reason why we can't really burn it

520
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.359
to our heads mind the punch is the fact that

521
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.920
it is a mixture of a bunch of different theme

522
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.119
songs from different Star Treks jewies. I mean, I actually thought,

523
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.480
for some reason that I thought I heard the card.

524
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.200
I thought I heard a little bit of Prodigy and

525
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.880
a little bit of maybe a tiny tiny bit of

526
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.119
the next Generation. But I mean they're all kind of

527
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.640
like that French horn anyway. So it's just kind of like,

528
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:04.000
I think, the more we listen to it, the more

529
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:05.960
it's gonna be ahead.

530
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:10.559
But I actually enjoyed it. I liked it, which cool.

531
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:16.400
So yeah, all right, Charles, you get the caboose on

532
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:16.800
this one.

533
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.960
Then we'll roll right into cadet training.

534
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.519
Well, I always I kind of like the visuals to it.

535
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.480
It reminded me of Discovery. Good Discovery always built their

536
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.320
theme on what the season was about, so we got

537
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:36.360
to see that real change in each Each season's got

538
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.599
their own credit form. So I don't mind it. I

539
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.000
think it's early enough for me not to really get

540
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.920
hooked on a theme. Yet as we see it more

541
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.960
and more, I think I'll start getting a little more

542
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.559
into the theme. But I'm giving it time.

543
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:57.719
All right, guys. So that's uh.

544
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.719
The Chuck Spurts breakdown on the theme and the opening credits,

545
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.320
and now we get to the part of the show

546
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:06.079
that we've been waiting for. We haven't had cadet training

547
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:10.400
in a long time, and Charles take it away cadet

548
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.800
training for episode one, kids these days?

549
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.199
Okay, well what is okay? First of all, especially for

550
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:22.639
those that have forgotten, what is this cadet training? Well,

551
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:26.039
I take a look at the episode and then I

552
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.079
look and say, oh, okay, I'm looking for Easter eggs,

553
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.559
but these Easter eggs I want to tie into other

554
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.199
Star Trek episodes or series. And one of the real good,

555
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:45.440
definite examples on this one is that Discovery season three,

556
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.960
when we basically say what is the burn? You go

557
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.760
back to season three and you understand what happened, Why

558
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:56.320
did the burn occur? And why did Starfleet have this

559
00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:02.920
jump where they stopped and they're now reft and some

560
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.079
of the characters. I really got into this episode Strange

561
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:07.840
New Worlds.

562
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:09.599
Pellia.

563
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:15.760
Why am I picking Pellia because Pellia is a Lanthian?

564
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:17.760
Oh?

565
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:22.039
Why is that important? Because Chancellor a Key is also

566
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:26.679
part Lanthian. So we've got another character that is many,

567
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.360
many years old. She's talking with several at least a

568
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:33.880
few hundred. I don't know exactly, but it's interesting to

569
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.039
hear some of her stories and comparing how long she's

570
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.800
been Around DS nine, we're gonna go back the Dominion War.

571
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:48.519
Who are these Gemahdar people? Well, we learned about the

572
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:54.360
Gemmadar in the Dominion War and why because number one

573
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.639
is half Jemadar and half Klingon. We go back in

574
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:04.960
history quite a bit for the one Voyager when we

575
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:12.119
had the EMH emerging medical Hologram the doctor. The doctor

576
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:18.000
is back with a little bit of aging to him.

577
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:23.480
And of course Discovery season three to five, what's this

578
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:27.119
about programmable matter? Well, that's when we learned about what

579
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.760
programmable matter is and what we can do with it.

580
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:35.360
And one more character that caught my at tension and

581
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.599
I'm rather liking that they're there. We're going to go

582
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:44.159
back to the tos. Let this be your last battlefield

583
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:51.760
with the charine ones that are half black, half white.

584
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.960
If you look in the Cadets, we have one of

585
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.840
these beings there and make the comment thinking they survive

586
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.840
because we thought the last two of those two were

587
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.480
going to kill each other off. That society had to

588
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:11.280
have survived or came back. But she is definitely prominent

589
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:16.000
several times in the scene with the cadets.

590
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:19.480
And that gets me.

591
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.440
With the end of the Cadet review for this chapter,

592
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.679
I believe we're going to pass it over to Paul

593
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:27.559
and talk about the episode recap.

594
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:35.320
Thank you, Charles, I appreciate that. Sarah. Okay, well, gosh, friends,

595
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.960
it's true we have a double scoop helping of this

596
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.280
new series, Starfleet Academy, and there's a lot to talk

597
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.760
about with this. So let's first of all focus on

598
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.599
the initial episode Kids these Days. This is Jim mentioned

599
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:51.840
the pilot, so this is kind of branching off within

600
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:55.679
the same universe that Discovery took place, right, And as

601
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:58.320
everyone's mentioned earlier, right, we were in the kind of

602
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:03.760
still formative stages after what was referred to as the Burn,

603
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.519
we kind of rebuild the Federation. The Federation isn't what

604
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:10.480
it used to be, right, and so the idea is

605
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:12.239
we want to sort of, you know, right, direct them,

606
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:17.239
create more stability, more alliances, more protection, dare I say it,

607
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:22.960
more enlightenment, right, And so Admiral Vance comes in and

608
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:28.079
basically his explaining to you know us and the woman

609
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:32.159
nala At, who's portrayed by Holly Hunter, who will talk

610
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.800
a lot more about, right. She's resigned from Starfleet over

611
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.239
a past injustice that we learned about in a little

612
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:44.599
prologue sequence to this episode involving a young boy being

613
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.599
separated from his mother. And if that doesn't resonate to

614
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:50.719
you right now, I got nothing for you. I got

615
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.760
no hope for you. But there you go. But she's

616
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:57.400
looking for redemption and Admiral Vance offers it in terms

617
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.199
of like he sees a lot of you know, long

618
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:04.840
skills and character in her that would make her perfect. Again,

619
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:09.400
we're talking about Holly Hunter here as Chancellor Starfleet Academy,

620
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.519
and so he offers her this post, right, And so

621
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:18.960
it's a very high stakes, character focused series. A lot

622
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.000
of what we're talking about thematically in the start of

623
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.079
the show is we're overcoming the darkness of the past.

624
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.039
We're trying to create unity, and we're nurturing a new

625
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.280
generation of Starfleet officer to help rebuild a very factored

626
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.559
galaxy so they can have a federation again. That little

627
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:40.079
boy who is separated from his mother grows up to

628
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:43.719
be a very much a young twenty one year old

629
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.079
lone wolf dude who's been of like running around the

630
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:51.079
galaxy as a petty criminal. He holds a deep grudge

631
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:57.039
against Naake Holly Hunter, right, because he blames her for

632
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.679
his mother's being you know, taken away from him right

633
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.639
at the doing of Starfleet.

634
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:04.000
Right.

635
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:08.599
So he's not a big Starfleet fan at this point. Right.

636
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:15.239
But Commander Aka is a very convincing person, and she says,

637
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:16.960
give this a try. It's a good chance for you.

638
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.320
And this is this whole idea of somebody who's been

639
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.159
you know, needs one last chance. I mean, it's an old,

640
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.760
you know, movie situation that we've seen before. And so

641
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.519
she convinces him to give Starfleet a chance rather than

642
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.519
go to jail. Come to come to come to Starfleet,

643
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.639
try it out, let's see what happens. Right. So he's

644
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.119
like the main character, a guy named Caleb Meir, right,

645
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.280
And along with Chancellor ak Right, we have a faculty

646
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.159
at the Starfleet Academy that we get to know. Right.

647
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.360
We have everyone Charles mentioned Harbor coming back as the doctor.

648
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:54.519
There's the Ema once again. Right. A really interesting character,

649
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:59.159
Laura Thok Right, she's the number one. She's basically the

650
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.199
cadet mass if you will, like somebody would have as

651
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.719
a drill instructor. Right, and she is half Klingon and

652
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.559
really really just striking character, really really interesting. We talked

653
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.599
a little bit about her background already, but really interesting

654
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.719
mix of characters and fresh faces that make up the Cadets.

655
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.119
We'll talk a lot more about that, and we'll talk

656
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.760
about the conflict because there's a lot of younger people

657
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:26.960
are going to have conflicts about each other. Is they

658
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.440
all want different things and they're being taught to unify

659
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:33.280
and put their differences aside and cooperate on this show,

660
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.480
which is pretty amazing. And there's a nemesis there is

661
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:42.000
a wily pirate out there played by Paul Giamatti called

662
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:46.400
noose Braka. He's got a grudge against both nala Ake

663
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.519
and the Federation, and so during one of their first

664
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:55.199
voyages out. One of the unique things about this show

665
00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:00.239
is basically the Academy itself exists in two domains. There's

666
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.199
Starfleet Academy in San Francisco that's being rebuilt, right, but

667
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:09.320
the ship itself that they're going there on is actually

668
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.360
like the ship is a training facility itself, so a

669
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.159
lot of what they're doing is involves being on a

670
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:17.599
ship and dealing with what happens when you're in spaceflight.

671
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.039
So really really fascinating there. I'll talk more about my

672
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.840
thoughts on the show when it's appropriate, but I just

673
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.119
think it was a fascinating and from my perspective, very

674
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.800
welcome I returned to for him for Star Tracks horrific

675
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.440
pilot episode, but we'll talk about the second one later on.

676
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.280
So that's kind of where we're at there, guys, at

677
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:40.440
least in terms of the premise and the.

678
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:46.400
Setup and the themes and and our Facebook fans chimed

679
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.679
in on what they thought about the episode and gave

680
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.320
us our fans scores and Eric, what did our Facebook

681
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:53.320
fans have to say?

682
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.599
Well, our Facebook fan Steve Ramsey said that he gave

683
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.679
it an eight to point five, much better than I

684
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.280
feared it might be. But I don't care what anybody says.

685
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.440
I don't like how Ake sits in the Captain's chair,

686
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:11.679
lacks the decorum the seat deserves. You talk about that.

687
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:16.440
Thanks Steve Godrick, ray Ford Grinillo gave it a ten

688
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:18.760
and gave us a good write up. Watched the first

689
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.679
two episodes of Starfleet of Star Trek Academy last night

690
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:24.800
and I genuinely loved it. It feels like a fresh

691
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.800
new generation of Starfleet stepping forward to carry the principles

692
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.480
of the Federation while still honoring everything that came before it.

693
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:34.480
The nostalgia hit just right, from the nod to the

694
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:38.000
original Enterprise crew with the humpback Whales to the return

695
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.639
of Voyager's emh the Doctor and the Captain. Absolutely fantastic.

696
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.119
A living witness to Starfleet history and its compromises with

697
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:48.400
a sharp sense of humor that made her instantly memorable.

698
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:53.000
Her casually sitting in the captain's chair felt way too relatable.

699
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:56.760
Basically me taking calls at work when they played San

700
00:44:56.800 --> 00:45:00.239
Francisco as Starfleet returned home. I was honestly, it was

701
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:03.599
honestly powerful and emotional. That moment really hit like a

702
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:07.679
reminder of what Starfleet stands for. But the photonic Cadet

703
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:11.119
that was the icing on the cake. Adorable, awkward, totally

704
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:14.679
out of place, and incredibly relatable. Watching her try to

705
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.719
learn social norms and humor had me laughing out loud

706
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.400
more than once. And yes, I may or may not

707
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:25.960
have developed a little Starfleet crush too. Oh that's fantastic, Godrich,

708
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.360
Thank you so much for that great write up. Jeffrey

709
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.800
Pettipiece give it a nine. This is actually the first

710
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.639
series that I loved at the first episode, and I

711
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:40.239
go back way back to tos first episode airing. Thanks Jeffrey.

712
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:44.559
Ariel Gardner gave it a nine. Love the characters and

713
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:48.400
can't wait to see where this goes. Al R. Williams

714
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.119
gave it a five. It was a nice young adult

715
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.599
theme show. Barry T. Dolman gave it a seven. Better

716
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:59.039
than I expected, worth watching more of Billy. J Uhas

717
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.480
give it a nine. Really enjoyed it, and Miller a ten.

718
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:06.239
Loved it Robert Peacock a nine. Also, I found it

719
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:10.400
very enjoyable to watch with a few very likable characters.

720
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.280
And last, but not least, John w Allen said a

721
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.800
solid six. There was a lot going on, but they

722
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.960
did a good job of laying the foundation for what

723
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.519
was to come. As pilots go, I'd say it's a

724
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.000
little ways above middle of the pack. It was definitely

725
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.840
better than I thought it might be. And that gives

726
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:29.440
us a combined fan score for this episode of eight

727
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.559
point three. Extremely respectable for a first episode of a

728
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:34.199
new series.

729
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:41.360
I couldn't agree more. And the how would you like

730
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:46.480
to start us off with Starfleet Academy kids these days? Well, sure,

731
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:48.960
your thoughts insights dive.

732
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:55.079
Yeah, Well, of course, the whole thing with when you

733
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.559
see Caleb being separated from his mother, I mean, it's like,

734
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:03.280
oh my god, how they're just absolutely heartbreaking, you know,

735
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:06.400
any any parent has got to, you know, look at

736
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:12.679
that and just be very upset. But I like the

737
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:16.440
fact that when Ake did find him, she said, I

738
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:21.079
never stopped looking for you all these years, so she,

739
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.800
if I if I remember correctly, she didn't really have

740
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:29.119
much of a choice to do what she did, and

741
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.480
she was trying to make up for it, you know,

742
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:35.480
to the point where I think she she quit Starfleet,

743
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.920
which is why she was at that What was it

744
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:41.559
on Baijor looked like a daycare or something with those

745
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:45.280
two cute little kids, and that's where the admiral found her.

746
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.960
I mean, Holly Hunter, how I'm sorry, Holly Hunter is

747
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:55.280
just goddess to me. And then of course Paul Giamatti.

748
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:59.360
Could he have chewed the scenery anymore? But in a

749
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.519
fantastic Paul Giamatti way.

750
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:04.440
That's ascription.

751
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.679
Yeah, I mean that's that's the only way I could

752
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.719
put it, Just fantastic. I mean, people say, oh, he

753
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.760
chewed the scenery. Hello, have you ever watched Shatner?

754
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:16.159
Come on?

755
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:23.920
That's my comeback to to those critics. And I'm not

756
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.480
that old that I don't remember going to college. And

757
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.519
I was a very sheltered eighteen year old going to

758
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.559
when I went to VCU in Richmond, and that was

759
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:39.039
that's like a city and being away from home like that.

760
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:46.039
So I think I feel like I relate to Sam

761
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.679
because she just you know, I was awkward. I felt

762
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.360
totally out of place, trying to figure out, Okay, how

763
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.199
do I pretend to be a normal human being with

764
00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:01.960
these other students. So I really, I really liked that character.

765
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:05.159
The one thing, though, I will say, that put me off.

766
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.480
And you know, I like, I like some good swearing,

767
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:09.639
but I think there was a little too much.

768
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:09.960
It was.

769
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.639
It was just too much. It was just a little

770
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:17.039
bit off putting. And like I said, I love a

771
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:20.920
good curse word. And now I understand in Star Trek

772
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:25.400
Lower Decks when they bleeped everything out that actually made

773
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.039
it more funny. But you know, went along with the

774
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:32.000
with the animated show. But yeah, they just if they

775
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:37.519
could just dial back, I think, like I saw some

776
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:41.320
other reviews online and said, I think I agree with

777
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.320
the person who said it took me out of the

778
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.039
moment because it was just too contemporary.

779
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:47.639
You know.

780
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:54.079
It's maybe if they can just you know, develop the

781
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.239
characters and they don't have to rely on, you know,

782
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:01.719
cursing at each other and have more to say than

783
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:09.880
just some gratuitous words. So I am really looking forward

784
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:10.639
to seeing more.

785
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:12.280
This is just.

786
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:19.199
Looks like an incredible show, and hopefully all the people

787
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:23.840
elsewhere that have been rather unkind, hopefully they will see

788
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:27.920
it and maybe change their minds because it's all about

789
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.119
you know. Like I said to somebody, it's like, well,

790
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:35.519
you know, Star Trek. People criticized the original series and

791
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:40.320
it was canceled, and here we are sixty years later.

792
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:44.559
So this show obviously resonates with people. It wouldn't be

793
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:50.360
around for sixty years if it didn't. So I think

794
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:55.840
I would give this just because of the I don't know.

795
00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:57.639
Score.

796
00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:58.360
Let me give it.

797
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:00.760
Let me give it a nine.

798
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:07.519
About that cool nine from the how about you, David,

799
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:10.440
you want to jump in next before you fall asleep

800
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.519
on us?

801
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:21.199
Uh? Sure, yeah, okay. So Starfleet Academy, Episode one, season one,

802
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.119
These kids are the kids these things.

803
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.400
I watched it, and I.

804
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.239
Really thought that there was a lot of high school

805
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:39.000
drama for me, I mean, especially in the next episode

806
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.119
and when not. But to me, I really don't enjoy

807
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:44.519
a lot of high school drama in general when I

808
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:49.039
watched movies. But I can understand that it's supposed to

809
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.320
be the kids that are just now coming into school

810
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:57.320
and they're just starting to set up shop, I guess

811
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:02.360
you could say. And to me, this episode seemed a

812
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:07.960
little it seemed a little too fast paced for me

813
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:13.039
because even though it was longer than an hour. The

814
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:16.719
idea of getting to know the villain from the beginning

815
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:18.519
to the end just seemed like there was a lot

816
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:24.760
of machine parts because I didn't quite understand exactly why

817
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:28.039
if he was even around at the time. I mean,

818
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.599
I know that he was supposed to be a pirate,

819
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.159
I guess in some ways, but it just seemed a

820
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.519
little fast to me for some reason, and it was

821
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.079
just the villain for some reason, just didn't cut it

822
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.119
for me. I mean, I like Paul Giamati. I really

823
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.119
liked him in the Planet of h He's a really

824
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:48.159
good character actor as well. And the character he played

825
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:51.920
Half Clean on Half tellerte supposed to be like a

826
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.599
what did you call it, a kleanote or something like that,

827
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:01.719
and I'm like, that's pretty interesting. But to me, the

828
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.800
way that they're kind of designing the new race's just like,

829
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.119
I don't know, it seems like they're running out of

830
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.360
new ideas for me, so it's like okay. But other

831
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.960
than that, yeah, it was okay. The doctor was great.

832
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.559
I like seeing him again, and I liked his explanation

833
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.400
of why he's older, so that was kind of fun.

834
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:24.199
Although now I can't remember if that was episode through

835
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:24.719
or one now.

836
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:33.599
But other than that, the yeah, it was okay, I

837
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:35.480
didn't really quite enjoy it as much as I thought

838
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:36.280
I was gonna enjoy it.

839
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.719
But ah, ok see what else?

840
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:41.159
Oh?

841
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:41.559
Yeah?

842
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:42.159
Uh?

843
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:46.119
Did anyone else get the weird.

844
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.199
Dialogue that they were talking about when the ship was

845
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:53.239
behind him and all of a sudden, the Captain's like

846
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:57.079
all shields in the front, and I'm like, wait a minute, how.

847
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:57.679
Does that work?

848
00:53:58.199 --> 00:53:59.840
So it was just kind of like a lot of

849
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:03.440
different things that were messed up in the little stuff

850
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:04.880
that I thought was kind of strange.

851
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.840
So I don't know it was it was a little

852
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:09.840
too too.

853
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:13.320
Fast paced, I guess in my opinion, But i'd have

854
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.199
to give this a particular episode.

855
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:18.519
I'm gonna give it a.

856
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:23.280
Six point five. So yeah, that's about what I'm gonna

857
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.360
give it.

858
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.320
All right, six point five from David? How about you? Child?

859
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.760
Okay, one of the things in my notes that I

860
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.440
put in, and I'm sure hosts are wondering what was

861
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.639
going on with that? Let me talk about some of

862
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:44.440
the cadets that I thought were interesting. I saw this

863
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:48.679
episode twice, and the second time I watch, it's like

864
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.920
I could go with the flow a lot better. I

865
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.280
knew what the story was gonna be and felt much

866
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.639
more comfortable with the story. I was like, I enjoyed

867
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:03.800
myself with it. But I looked at the cast. It's like, okay,

868
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:09.719
we have a new species, a coyonean that's the one

869
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:14.440
that went outside the ship in his own skin trying

870
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:19.800
to get the information about the the program will matter.

871
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:24.960
It's like, Okay, the cocky cadet, which I'm surprised he's

872
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.880
not in the war side, is a different species we

873
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:34.079
haven't dealt with. I can't think of the cadet's name,

874
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:38.519
but she's a Darshah, the one we see that's the

875
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:43.800
real intelligent one that goes through special being good friends

876
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:53.159
with our photonic and Jenna. She is a new species.

877
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.519
And thinking of mentioned that.

878
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:03.199
Charles with the dar Shaw, I like, when I heard

879
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.119
that name, I was like, man, I feel like I've

880
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.039
heard that before. And I went and I googled it

881
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:10.559
and I realized why it was. It's because if you've

882
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:17.920
ever read David Eddings books, he's got a person described

883
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.400
as a shad Dar, which is a person that has

884
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:25.159
a rare ability to communicate with horses. So they just

885
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.039
got that name, and they like flipped it up, so

886
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.039
I think maybe that's an homage that was a little

887
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:33.679
Eastern bandicot, because I was like, when I know that name, yeah.

888
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:37.280
I thought that she was the same race as the

889
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.599
Diviner's daughter there from Prodigy.

890
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:48.760
Nope, she's entirely new species. Yeah, it's entirely new species.

891
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.079
Looked him up. I had to hit. I had to

892
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:55.480
hit the clothes captioning. Looked at the species and said, okay,

893
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:57.199
I want to go look this stuff up. And it's

894
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:01.400
like it's brand new entries. And of course that we

895
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:06.039
just mentioned we have a new we have a holographic

896
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:11.000
species that's not the doctor. As she said, she likes

897
00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:16.840
to go photonic, but she's only been existence for a

898
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:24.079
few months. But then she's portraying herself as about seventeen

899
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:28.519
year old. Okay, brand new feelings, doesn't know what life

900
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.840
is like. She's a brand new character and brand new person.

901
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:37.159
And it's like, yep, she's a little kid. Yes, she's

902
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:42.800
an interesting little character. I've all these species. I would

903
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:44.800
love to get some details.

904
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:45.480
I want some.

905
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:50.119
Backstories, but of course, who do I want the biggest

906
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:55.960
backstory on? I want the backstory on number one I

907
00:57:56.119 --> 00:58:02.079
like Number one. She's she's a drill sergeant. You get

908
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.440
to see her out there. She's a drill sergeant that

909
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.519
we've not seen a number one that was that tough

910
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:12.239
on cadets. But I like that. I like that she's

911
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:17.480
got that strength to her. I want to know what

912
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:21.679
happened with a Jemadar. The Geminha have come back and

913
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:25.360
they're meeting with another species. I want to know this

914
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:31.960
story on this and of course it hasn't been brought up.

915
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:36.280
I will bring it up that we talk about our

916
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:41.159
chancellor and she kind of just relaxes in the chair.

917
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:48.679
She's technically one of the she's technically the oldest captain

918
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:55.960
we've ever had on a ship. Our captains are usually

919
00:58:56.119 --> 00:59:01.880
in their forties fifties, not multiple one hundred years old.

920
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:05.519
I'm sure if Pelly had decided to go sit in

921
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:10.039
the captain's chair, she might get a little comfortable and

922
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:16.719
sit where she's comfortable and sitting. I know people who

923
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:17.599
are bothered by it.

924
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:18.559
I wasn't.

925
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.800
As I started to get to really realize who our

926
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:28.599
chancellor is. I like the way the character acts. She

927
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:33.280
wants to be a little relaxed. Okay, hey go ahead

928
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:38.719
and be relaxed. A comment that one of the crew

929
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:44.119
made on the bridge, and I thought, it's like, Okay,

930
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:50.760
somebody in there is a teacher, because there's a one

931
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:55.239
line in there that's like, Okay, only a teacher's gonna

932
00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:02.239
say that. Oh, because it such a teachable moment. It's like, yeah,

933
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.320
I use that. I may not say it, but I

934
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:08.199
use that concept at work all the time because I

935
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:11.239
will stop and think, Okay, this is gonna help the

936
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:17.320
kids understand something. It's a teachable moment. I loved hearing

937
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:19.400
one of the crew members say that. It's like, Okay,

938
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:25.119
that's a professor saying that. What am I gonna go

939
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:28.159
with this episode? I'm gonna go with the death that

940
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:29.079
solid nine.

941
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:30.679
This was a good.

942
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:35.079
Starter for this series, and I can't wait to see

943
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:38.639
what they do with it.

944
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.360
All right, Eric, can I jump in next body?

945
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:47.280
Sure? Yeah? Yeah, So right from the get go, I

946
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:51.400
was pretty hooked. I mean, that opening scene is intense,

947
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:54.480
and it's funny because we saw bits of that I

948
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.199
think in trailers before this now, but I never it

949
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:03.280
never occurred to me that the mother was Tatiana Maslani

950
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.719
from Orphan Black that I just watched it this time,

951
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.519
I was like, well, that's who that is. Anyway, it

952
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.800
was kind of cool to see her and something again.

953
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.880
Generally speaking, the things that I like about this show

954
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:21.360
right now are that it has a real deep and

955
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.840
kind of like wide ranging optimism to it. It just

956
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:28.800
feels like there's a lot of room to grow, there's

957
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:31.119
a lot of room for hope. And I think the setting,

958
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:34.320
you know, in a college, with these kids who are

959
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:38.239
kind of transitioning from being kids into being adults and

960
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:41.719
learning new skills and not only that but like rebuilding

961
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:44.480
the Federation at the same time, it has this kind

962
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:48.239
of like automatic optimism, sort of building aspect to it

963
01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:51.239
that I really really like. You know, I think that

964
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:53.440
when we got into Discovery and the Burn and all

965
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:54.880
that kind of stuff, it was kind of like, oh

966
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:56.920
my god, that not only has the world weighed me down,

967
01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:01.079
but like everything sucks in Starfleet too. So it's kind

968
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:03.719
of nice to have the antithesis of this going on

969
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:09.159
in this show. You know, David, I get that there's

970
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:12.400
like some some high school slash college humor in here.

971
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:15.119
I feel differently about it. It doesn't bug me, but

972
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.719
I'm also like a huge fan of Buffy the vampire slave.

973
01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:21.679
So that so maybe maybe there's just an aspect of

974
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:25.280
me that just doesn't mind that that type of character interaction.

975
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.760
I think for me, what it is is it's watching

976
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:32.760
people discover themselves on screen, you know, watching them form

977
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:37.639
new relationships, watching them find out how they're strong inside,

978
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:43.880
make mistakes. I can't disagree with one of our fan

979
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:48.199
reviewers who was talking about Sam the new Photonic character, Like,

980
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.519
as soon as she was on the screen and started talking,

981
01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:53.559
I just got this gigantic smile on my face, and

982
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:55.039
I sort of got every time she showed up on

983
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:57.800
the screen, I couldn't help but smile and just like

984
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.960
be complete, even that hard where she's kind of like,

985
01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:03.039
you know, I don't think people I don't remember what

986
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:04.599
she said, I don't think people like me, or I

987
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:06.519
don't think people get me, or something like that, and

988
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:09.679
it was kind of like this moment of doubt. Even

989
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:11.559
then I was still just loving it.

990
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:15.719
So I think, how about how about comparing her, how

991
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:17.000
about comparing her to Tilly?

992
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:26.440
She does she definitely has that has that aspect to her. Yeah,

993
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:29.920
where she's she's you know, a little socially awkward, but

994
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:33.639
she she also kind of has. I love the idea

995
01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:36.239
that she's really young but has been programmed to act

996
01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:39.760
in a certain way, but then can grow from that programming.

997
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:42.519
It's almost like taking the doctor and you know, putting

998
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.480
him on speed more in four months, she's trying to,

999
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:50.440
you know, become something different from what she started out as.

1000
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:53.480
So fascinating character. In fact, I really like how they

1001
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:56.880
introduced pretty much all the characters on the show. Like

1002
01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:58.800
I said, I love the opening scene with Caleb and

1003
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:03.400
the mom and just how heart wrenching it was. Really

1004
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:05.519
like it just kind of, you know, hits you right

1005
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:09.800
in the fields. And then when we we get him

1006
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:11.920
back at the academy, he's got this kind of like

1007
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.719
huge chip on his shoulder. And what you see is

1008
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:20.039
you see people at the academy not punishing him for

1009
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:23.440
being who he is. Right they start to work with him.

1010
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:27.199
They they ask him questions that make him think about

1011
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.320
himself and what he's doing and that kind of stuff.

1012
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:31.440
And that's what good teachers do. They you know, they

1013
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:35.239
don't try to punitively make kids do things. They help

1014
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:37.920
kids discover why they should do things in a certain way.

1015
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:43.039
So I do really like that aspect of it, you know,

1016
01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:47.119
there's a lot of like I recognize that kind of

1017
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.000
moments which are kind of fun that kind of brings

1018
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:53.519
us into that Star Trek continuity, which I really like.

1019
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:56.480
The one thing I'll say is so I really like

1020
01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.639
Holly Hunter, and I like all of the Cadet characters.

1021
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.519
The I agree with the that Paul GI Matti is

1022
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.159
chewing this scene or as hard as he positively can.

1023
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:12.719
I'm trying to think. I guess I'm finding him compelling

1024
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:15.639
in a little bit. I just kind of have this

1025
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:17.679
thing where I feel like all the Star Trek that

1026
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:19.400
comes out now is like, Okay, we got to have

1027
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:21.440
this one villain, and that's where we're gonna start. You know,

1028
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:26.800
last time it was Amanda I am along the name

1029
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.559
form yes, thank you, you know, and now it's Paul G. Motty.

1030
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:36.320
I do think that he's he's very good at what

1031
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:38.639
he's doing right now. He's playing that kind of like

1032
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:42.599
mustache twirling, pirate villain kind of guy, and so I

1033
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.480
think he's killing it in what he's doing. I think

1034
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:47.519
he's definitely got to come back. Right So now it's

1035
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:50.039
just kind of a waiting game of we're gonna have

1036
01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:53.039
a couple episodes of cool stuff happening at the Academy,

1037
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.320
and then the Pirate's gonna come back at some point probably,

1038
01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:59.079
So that's probably the aspect of the show that I'm

1039
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:03.559
the least interested in at the moment. Ship's cool writing school,

1040
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:08.800
you know, this this particular episode didn't like break gigantic ground,

1041
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:10.880
but I think it was a really solid kickoff, So

1042
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:16.800
I'll give it an eight.

1043
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:18.559
Eight Paul, how about you, buddy hey better?

1044
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:21.960
Yeah, Well, I will tell you, you know, I always go

1045
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:24.199
into a new show with a little trepidation, right, I'm

1046
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.199
cautiously optimistic, but I'm also a little nervous. You know,

1047
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:30.679
I'm still looking at my wounds after section thirty one,

1048
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:32.639
which is, like, you know, probably the low point of

1049
01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.440
my television viewing for the entire last year. It just

1050
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:38.519
was just a gun for them. So I was a

1051
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:40.760
little nervous, right, because we still have a lot of

1052
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.360
the same creative people behind the scenes, right, And so

1053
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.599
I was very, very nervous. And I was just from

1054
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:50.599
pretty much the first, you know, thirty seconds of this

1055
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:52.920
episode all the way through the first two that I've seen.

1056
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:58.039
I was absolutely delighted at the direction they took. I

1057
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:03.559
thought this was extremely held on. I think Alex Kurtseman

1058
01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:06.679
directed both of these. I think, if I'm not mistaken, right,

1059
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.000
So I'm curious to see what happens with other directors

1060
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.079
taking this cast and everything. But it was just terrific.

1061
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:16.559
Had a really great setup. They managed to integrate the

1062
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:20.519
kind of progressive themes that we want to see in

1063
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:24.280
Star Trek, but you know, integrated it into the story,

1064
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:27.559
you know, and didn't really like you know, it was awkward.

1065
01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:30.360
I sometimes things could be on Discovery, right, none of

1066
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:34.159
them here. They focused on the story, focused on the characters, right,

1067
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:38.039
and I just thought it was fantastic. MVP Award all

1068
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:42.559
the way to Holly Hunter. I just think she has

1069
01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:45.519
just freaking carried it. She's great. I love her in

1070
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.719
this right, She's just awesome. She is maybe a little

1071
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:52.159
bit different, you know. I really rolled my eyes when

1072
01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:54.000
I heard that she was, you know, going to be

1073
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:56.360
a Lantonite again, right, because oh my god, we just

1074
01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:58.119
got that with Carol Kane. What are we going to

1075
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.920
do the same thing? Right? And she's right. I like her.

1076
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:05.559
She's smart, and she's you know, she's not ditzy. She's great,

1077
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:07.719
but she's kind of a free spirit. She's walking around

1078
01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:11.000
her bare feet, she's slumping over in the chair her

1079
01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:14.639
way she people who think that, you know that that's

1080
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:17.000
it's not respectful to the fort all the chair.

1081
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:17.840
I'm like, oh my.

1082
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:21.079
God, I'm never hanging out with you, dude. I don't

1083
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:23.880
care who you are, right God, it's just like, pull

1084
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:26.279
the stick out of your ass. Sorry, but it's just like,

1085
01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:29.520
you know, she's flumping over readings. It's four hundred years old.

1086
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:30.840
She's got no shits.

1087
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.119
Left to give.

1088
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.119
I think that's fantastic, right, that's really relatable. I think

1089
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:39.239
she's fantastic. Right with Discovery, I really liked that they

1090
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:41.560
brought back Admiral Vance, so I think it's one of

1091
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:46.279
the strongest least used characters I Discovery. I think he's dynamite.

1092
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:49.640
It is a little weird for me to get comfortable

1093
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:53.560
with idolizing somebody's leadership style whose name is Vance. That

1094
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:58.159
seems really right now, But but it's great he doesn't.

1095
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:00.000
When we get this episode two, we'll talk more about

1096
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:03.079
I just think it's great. Paul Giamadi, I thought, was

1097
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:05.239
you know fine. I'm curious to see what they do

1098
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:07.479
with him in subsequent episodes. Right where he's not just

1099
01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:10.319
the pirate, you know, over the top. You know, you

1100
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:12.880
got to have a big fight scene and whatnot, right,

1101
01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.680
But he's a lot of fun and everything is great.

1102
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.720
How do you use that ongoing antagonist given the stability

1103
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:22.039
of the dynamic that we see in the Academy, which

1104
01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:25.000
is just wonderful. I thought there were some just amazing moments.

1105
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:30.560
Excuse me, Our gem Hadar Cadet Master have Klingon Cadet

1106
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:34.680
Master is just I adored her the moment she came

1107
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:38.800
on camera in when she's wounded and she's in sick bay.

1108
01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:41.680
If I'm going to breed to death, I'd requires significantly

1109
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:46.079
less cheerfulness in moments. I mean it's just like that's

1110
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:51.239
you know, the ages. He was just like magnificent. And

1111
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:53.600
I'm sorry I don't have the names all memorized yet,

1112
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:59.439
but our Klingon character, Jane, he's like kind of a

1113
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:03.239
passive this clingon. He's a bird watcher, he's a healer.

1114
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:06.960
He's a healer, he's a klingon. He's got the strength

1115
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:10.439
of a heat can cling on. But he's kind of gentle, right,

1116
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:12.560
and he's just like, you don't turn your back on

1117
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:16.079
your friends, right, that's his strength, that he believes in

1118
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:19.439
right and time after time. The show is espousing values

1119
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:21.560
that I think that are just so desperately needed and

1120
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:26.279
a healthfully right and it's very hopeful. Though. I found

1121
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:29.039
myself laughing way more than I thought I would throughout

1122
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.239
this show. I've never rolled now is a really anything

1123
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:36.399
other than some unfortunate CV and too, But we'll get

1124
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.039
to that. Well. I was thought this was a triumph.

1125
01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:40.880
I have been wanting something like this to come back

1126
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:42.640
to the Star for a long time. I thought it

1127
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:48.239
was outstanding. I like this cast tremendously. They're very charismatic,

1128
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:54.239
hopeful of being going through you know, yeah, they're young people, right,

1129
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:56.840
but I think that the you know, what they're going

1130
01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:00.279
through is really relatable, you know, to folks through remember

1131
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:02.560
their youth and we don't have all their ship ware

1132
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:07.439
together as an adult. So very relatable. Yeah, me too.

1133
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:10.520
I don't think we ever did kidding yourself otherwise, but

1134
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:15.600
they're very relatable. I am. You know, when they played

1135
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:19.359
you know, the San Francis goes on as their returning

1136
01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:26.560
I mean, come on, can there be yep beautiful achievement?

1137
01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.960
You know, folks who were just really it was just

1138
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.079
really funny to watch this thing on social media, right

1139
01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:37.600
and just people the review bombing and society. It's just like,

1140
01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:43.600
oh ready, a little pribaby. But you could just see

1141
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:47.399
the ground swell of affection that was able to just

1142
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:51.159
ascend beyond all that. And I think people really like

1143
01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:53.479
this show. I think it's coming at the right time

1144
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.239
that we really needed, right, So I think it's an

1145
01:11:56.279 --> 01:12:01.720
outstanding achievement. Again, I would follow Holly under anywhere after.

1146
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:04.840
I just think she did a remarkable job. He's just

1147
01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:07.079
such a great actress. And I hope they literally let

1148
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:09.880
her do some cool stuff here. But I just love

1149
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:13.239
slump in that chair for as many seasons as you can, sister,

1150
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:16.359
Just just do it, you know, and do your own thing.

1151
01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:19.840
So for me, I gotta go nine, right, I mean

1152
01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:22.600
I save ten for like, you know, legendary episodes like

1153
01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:27.079
drummat or whatever. I'm sure they have episodes like that

1154
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:30.119
kind of but for me, an unequivocable nine. I just

1155
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:33.000
thought it was a wonderful a few months. It made

1156
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:36.720
me very happy. And you know, bottom line, gang, this

1157
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:40.800
was fun. This was a fun show. These two episodes

1158
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:42.680
back to back. I had more fun watching this than

1159
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:43.840
I've had watching start.

1160
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:50.960
Maybe maybe we can get Howie Hunter on the podcast.

1161
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:57.880
I mean I would die because I have such a

1162
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:03.079
girl crush on her that I would absolutely be just

1163
01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:07.760
you know, sitting here just going there because yeah, she's.

1164
01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:09.720
Great talking going in and you know, we haven't even

1165
01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:10.800
talked about the design.

1166
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:12.119
And the academy itself.

1167
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:20.720
Spectactical, really great, believable, realistic but cool, right. I mean

1168
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:23.720
there was one moment where uh, Caleb's.

1169
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:24.239
Like, I'm doing ship.

1170
01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:27.479
You can't tell me what to do and just regulations

1171
01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:30.399
had my ass and just basically like uh, and then

1172
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:37.199
they beam him. The entire uniform has been changed and

1173
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:43.319
it's just gotcha. It's also a great moment. Yeah, funny

1174
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:49.960
as hell. That dude is just ripped routine. I mean,

1175
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:57.319
like these all day mans just like inspirement ripped.

1176
01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:03.680
I love this When uh thok, the cling on Jim

1177
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:05.279
had no language.

1178
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:09.920
I thought we said no profanity. You.

1179
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:17.199
I cracked up when they healed her and in her

1180
01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:19.760
I meant to go back and watch it again, but

1181
01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:23.359
didn't she like she like kicked some guy across the room.

1182
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:29.039
Oh yeah, yeah that's right, and that just I just

1183
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:32.920
learned laughed out loud, and she is that we need

1184
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:35.760
to get I mean, I want to get her on

1185
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:42.840
the show because, oh my god, yeah.

1186
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:52.600
Yeah about all this stuff. You know, she's just.

1187
01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:53.880
But she knows some ship.

1188
01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:55.079
Yes she does.

1189
01:14:55.760 --> 01:15:00.000
And I had I am, I am? Did she appear

1190
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:01.840
You're in the first one or the second one? I'm

1191
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:06.520
confused now, I don't know how did I How did

1192
01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:10.800
I never know about tak Nataro before? Oh my god,

1193
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:11.359
I'm in love.

1194
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:13.039
I just I.

1195
01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:25.159
Watched both of these episodes three times.

1196
01:15:26.359 --> 01:15:29.520
Just like Paul, I have not enjoyed Star Treks so

1197
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:32.640
much in such a long time. Tawny Newsome is in

1198
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:36.159
the writing room. I don't know how much she's contributed

1199
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:40.039
to the show. It felt realistic, it felt believable. It

1200
01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:43.760
was fun. And one of my big complaints about Star

1201
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:50.880
trek uh streaming era is we don't see pilots anymore.

1202
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:54.680
Paramount has traditionally just given us two episodes back to back.

1203
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:57.479
Here's your pilot. That's not a pilot. That is not

1204
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:01.640
a pilot. This episode was a pilot in the true

1205
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.720
sense of the word pilot. We meet the characters, they

1206
01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:08.079
come together, we learn about them, they're on their mission,

1207
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:10.439
they leave one point, they get the point B. That's

1208
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:12.560
the end of the episode. It's a pilot, it's a

1209
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:18.319
true pilot. And I love the fact that they respected

1210
01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:21.520
us enough to give us a pilot. They showed us

1211
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.600
the world, they showed us the ship. We got to

1212
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:28.319
hear Stephen Colbert on the PA system talking about not

1213
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.119
to Geno being servant about.

1214
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:35.960
Yes, yeah, that's that was your happy moment when they

1215
01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:37.960
mentioned that, and then they say kaplaw.

1216
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.680
I thought that was great. I also I wanted to

1217
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:46.840
echo what Charles said. The alien races I kept watching.

1218
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.840
I saw two FERRNGI two share on three or four races.

1219
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:53.119
I have no idea who they were, but they were

1220
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:56.079
new aliens, which is great. We even got to see

1221
01:16:56.199 --> 01:17:01.479
the the snail headed aliens that we saw on Star

1222
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.720
Trek beyond singing with the Doctor, which I thought was great.

1223
01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:08.760
I like how they went out of their way to

1224
01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:12.279
tie every Star Trek series into it, including Rock Top.

1225
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:15.800
Now I know that wasn't ROCKTOV because rock would be dead,

1226
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:19.760
but the rock Tar Race, what was she a rock Tony.

1227
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:20.359
And I don't remember.

1228
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:25.319
She's a brick bricker.

1229
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:30.119
The fact that they actually put one in the show

1230
01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:34.199
solidifies the fact that yes, Prodigy is part of the

1231
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:37.840
Star Trek lore and Cannon and hearing this so long

1232
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:39.000
jazz people as.

1233
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:39.399
Part as.

1234
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:47.960
They they were, and they included everything, which I thought

1235
01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:52.680
was just awesome. The characters, you know, we get to

1236
01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:56.239
meet them all coming to the Academy for the first time.

1237
01:17:56.760 --> 01:18:00.880
And we also have to remember that these are these

1238
01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.920
are kids that aren't used to being around other mixed

1239
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:08.560
races because of the murder. So it's not like on

1240
01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:12.319
Star Trek, you know, TG, where a ben ZiT comes aboating,

1241
01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:14.239
Wesley runs over and it's all I've heard about you.

1242
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.760
But no, this is totally this isn't like that. Now

1243
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:20.159
these these these people that.

1244
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:24.319
Haven't been together, aren't used to being together, and now

1245
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:26.800
they have to be together, and they have to learn

1246
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:30.960
how to accept each other, how to deal with each other,

1247
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:34.760
how to deal with the different Like I'm trying to remember,

1248
01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:37.520
in the first episode, Caleb is sharing a room with

1249
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.199
the black alien dude that walks on the ship.

1250
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:45.479
There that guy, and he's like and they're arguing about

1251
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:48.079
banana banana.

1252
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:52.840
Allergies and throwing your socks in the corner and not

1253
01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:55.159
making your bed and all these things and I'm like,

1254
01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:58.000
and this is exactly what it would be like, you know,

1255
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:02.960
completely believe to me. It's totally realistic. And I get

1256
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:05.960
what Data was saying about teen drama, but this is

1257
01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.640
what in order to get from point A to point B,

1258
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:12.119
we have to start at the begin. And every Star

1259
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:15.720
Trek show we've ever seen, they're already at the end.

1260
01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:19.119
We don't get to see them getting there, getting from

1261
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:20.760
there to hear it.

1262
01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:23.960
Well.

1263
01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:28.119
And then for critics of the yea of the different aliens,

1264
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:31.680
especially uh and I'm not swearing here, I promised fuck.

1265
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:37.960
It goes back to the principle of Star Trek, infinite diversity,

1266
01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:40.840
infinite combinations, you know.

1267
01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:42.760
So I think.

1268
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:46.640
When she tells Caleb to forget me twenty yes, and

1269
01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:50.119
then the Koimon guy walks by and she says, you here,

1270
01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:53.960
bag back, and he's like, I fell.

1271
01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:55.520
In love with her right away.

1272
01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:59.319
And later on in the episode, when they're out training

1273
01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:02.119
and it's in the and she's yelling about fear and

1274
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:04.680
my cadets will not be afraid and they will not

1275
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:07.199
have fear, and she goes up to the girls standing

1276
01:20:07.279 --> 01:20:08.960
on the starts screaming in her face.

1277
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:09.800
As she runs.

1278
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:12.359
Away, she turns around and says, I can always smell

1279
01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:15.960
the fear. I just think that that Fox is a

1280
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:19.359
wonderful character, and I just I love her. I think

1281
01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:24.600
she's great, and Taro is wonderful. The Doctor is awesome.

1282
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:30.239
Seeing fans back Admiral Vance the Great, the Silver Fox incredible.

1283
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:35.039
I like taking to Taro. How they carry her her

1284
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:39.680
dead pan, like her arguments she's had with Stammens. They

1285
01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:41.920
kind of carried that character. They've kept her the same,

1286
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:47.039
which I think is great. I can't think of and

1287
01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:50.079
I work in a school now, and I can tell

1288
01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:54.239
you that the teachers at the school they called me

1289
01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:57.399
the star Trek guy, and they're they're all coming up

1290
01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:00.560
to me and telling me how much they really like

1291
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:04.479
Starfleet Academy because it feels like a school and they

1292
01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:06.079
can watch it with their kids.

1293
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:08.119
And that is the ultimate compliment.

1294
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:13.039
Because when I was watching TNG with my wife my girlfriend,

1295
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:18.560
I was twenty something. I think that this show is

1296
01:21:18.680 --> 01:21:22.199
aimed at the twenty something crowd, and that's that.

1297
01:21:22.279 --> 01:21:24.760
There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that.

1298
01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:27.279
And you know, if you can get them hooked now,

1299
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.000
they'll be like us having a podcast thirty years from

1300
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:31.680
now talking about startrack.

1301
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:33.479
That's a smart move to me.

1302
01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:38.680
So I loved it from top to bottom. I can't

1303
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:42.359
say enough good about the show. So and I do

1304
01:21:42.439 --> 01:21:45.359
want to say to one thing, it's not being canceled.

1305
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:48.840
Okay. So I get a lot of messages on Facebook

1306
01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:51.399
page in their right mind things.

1307
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:54.079
I mean, it's just like I believe everything you see

1308
01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:55.159
on the internet.

1309
01:21:55.439 --> 01:22:00.600
Yeah, I mean, I mean there's that famous quote from

1310
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:04.279
Abraham Lincoln who said, don't believe everything you read on

1311
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:05.319
the internet.

1312
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:12.479
So all driven by those I know.

1313
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:17.039
People that are yeah, you know, you know what I say,

1314
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:21.079
I'm going to I'm going to paraphrase a scene from

1315
01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:25.439
a movie I love called Terms of Endearment where Jack

1316
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:28.600
Nicholson is talking to Sheerly McClain. It's their first date

1317
01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:32.399
and he said he wants her to have several drinks

1318
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:36.239
and she says why and said to kill that bug

1319
01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:41.000
up your ass. And that's what That's kind of what

1320
01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:43.600
I want to say to a lot of these haters.

1321
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.279
You know, have a couple of drinks, relax, you know,

1322
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:52.760
watch it and you know, chill out for crying out loud.

1323
01:22:53.439 --> 01:22:55.159
Just you know, I think the best thing to do

1324
01:22:55.439 --> 01:22:56.560
is don't even give them the.

1325
01:22:58.399 --> 01:22:58.680
You know.

1326
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:03.640
Block each act the band just get it.

1327
01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:08.960
I'm getting rid of a lot of them at the airlines. Good.

1328
01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:14.239
I do have one one complaint, though, Where's Tilly. They

1329
01:23:14.279 --> 01:23:15.319
told us Tilly would be.

1330
01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:20.359
In the first year, they say the first episode, Yes.

1331
01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:22.920
They did, and she wasn't. And they said she'd be

1332
01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:24.840
in the second episode and she wasn't.

1333
01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:27.600
I want to see Tilly. She was one of my

1334
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:31.239
favorite characters on Discovery. We know she's at the Academy.

1335
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:34.760
She taught there for twenty years. She was like the

1336
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:38.039
longest ten year teacher there, and I want to see her.

1337
01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:40.279
But that's a minor thing. I loved it, and I'm

1338
01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:43.399
going to go with the nine point five for this episode.

1339
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:46.640
I watched it three times. I had so much fun.

1340
01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:49.640
I enjoyed it from beginning to end. My wife and

1341
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:50.720
my daughter watched it with.

1342
01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:51.880
Me a couple of times.

1343
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:55.399
It's so nice to have Star Trek back and be

1344
01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:59.319
this fresh, this new, this enjoyable, and this much fun.

1345
01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:05.439
So kudos, kudos kudos to everyone. So Charles, what what

1346
01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:08.319
how did we come out with our fans?

1347
01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:13.560
Well, I think we're going upkeep Our fans gave it

1348
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:17.279
Nate point three and the host gave it Nate point five.

1349
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:24.960
Would have liked to have seen it night yet.

1350
01:24:25.479 --> 01:24:30.079
Oh well, okay, so now we're going to talk about

1351
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:33.880
episode two, which actually was a different episode. It wasn't

1352
01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:37.720
a shoehorn type of deal, completely separate episode. Oh I

1353
01:24:37.720 --> 01:24:41.399
did want to mention one other thing. They have learned

1354
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:44.960
their lesson out of time. Yeah on streaming. Did you

1355
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:47.920
guys notice that the first episode, the pilot was seventy

1356
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:52.039
six minutes and episode two was fifty eight minutes. So

1357
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.239
they're not cutting them at forty minutes or thirty six minutes.

1358
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:57.720
They're using the time they need to tell the story

1359
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:02.520
they want to tell, so which I think is great. So, Charles,

1360
01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:04.560
you want to start off with some cadet training for

1361
01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:05.239
episode two?

1362
01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:11.600
Oh definitely, even though somebody did tease one of my

1363
01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:18.439
tidbits already. But one of the things, first off, that

1364
01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:22.800
who in this group didn't get a little teary eyed

1365
01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:27.479
when we go back to TNG first duty and the

1366
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:29.640
first time we met Booth B.

1367
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:31.960
If you look on.

1368
01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:37.640
The Starfleet Academy grounds, there's a booth me memorial sitting there,

1369
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:41.439
and who didn't get a little teary by thinking they

1370
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:49.560
remembered Booth B. In this episode, Prodigy, we see a

1371
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:54.560
character similar to Rock as we just said, it's a

1372
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:59.520
brick car. It's a nice to see that species coming out.

1373
01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:04.439
And then of course I like going this way. Let's

1374
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:08.960
go to lower decks and no small parts where we

1375
01:26:09.039 --> 01:26:12.880
have an XO comp. We've got an EXO comp coming

1376
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:15.279
through here. Again, It's like, it's nice to see the

1377
01:26:15.319 --> 01:26:23.560
exo comp still around. Two definitely for people to study.

1378
01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:30.920
Tng Deanna Troy and I should put in there a

1379
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:34.800
little Walksana Troy and gives you, guys an idea of

1380
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:39.840
studying the betazoids, because the betazoids are definitely a high

1381
01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:42.880
point in this episode. And you get an idea where

1382
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:46.159
we originally cut up and started creating these based the

1383
01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:53.079
betasoid theme. And of course for my favorite and kind

1384
01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:57.600
of adding a little tag for me, unlike Gem's Star

1385
01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:01.960
Trek four the Voyage Home, the humpback whales are still

1386
01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.079
around the thirty second century. It's good to see that

1387
01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:12.239
those whales are still around, and one's pregnant again. Gee,

1388
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:17.720
I think we've heard of the pregnant whale before. But Paul,

1389
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:20.600
what did happen in this episode.

1390
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:25.680
Alrighty, thank you, Charles, appreciate that. So the second episode

1391
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:28.880
is called Beta Test, and there's a little play on

1392
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.520
words there, of course, because we're talking a lot about

1393
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:36.399
Betazad in this episode, right, And this continues the whole

1394
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:39.800
focus on rebuilding the Federation after the burn, right with

1395
01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:43.680
Earth and Betazed looking at trying to do some reuniting here.

1396
01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:46.479
And we get a lot of Admiral bents in this episode,

1397
01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:51.760
which is nice, and the insane timing of this episode

1398
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:54.560
is just wild. I think that's this show did a

1399
01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:58.199
lot of things with eerie synchronicity that I'll talk about,

1400
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:01.199
but a lot of what's going on in this particular

1401
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:05.439
episode is trying to negotiate things with the very skeptical

1402
01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:11.359
delegation from Beta Z, right, including the main you know

1403
01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:20.199
ambassador from Betaze himself, right, and it is it's President Sada,

1404
01:28:20.439 --> 01:28:22.520
I believe his name is, right, And the idea is

1405
01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:26.800
we want Beta Zed to rejoin the Federation, but they're

1406
01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:30.239
extremely skeptical of us, to the point that they've built

1407
01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:34.479
i mean heavy metaphor alert, they've built a wall to

1408
01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:39.600
protect themselves from you know, outside influences. A psionic wall,

1409
01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:42.760
if you will, all right, And so the idea is,

1410
01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:49.680
how can we get this very reticent society that has

1411
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:55.319
lost their ability to trust us to you know, re

1412
01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:59.319
cement relations, right, And I mean everything that's been going

1413
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:02.520
on in the world around us this last week, in

1414
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:05.680
the last forty eight hours, right with the summits and things.

1415
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:08.520
It's uncanny how relevant it is to the world we

1416
01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:11.640
live in today. And I think this episode deserves special

1417
01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:16.680
praise because it really shows that through God's old fashioned

1418
01:29:17.199 --> 01:29:26.840
tenets of like cooperation, the decency, compromise, the spots rising tide,

1419
01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:31.479
lifting all boats right, the diplomacy right, it really shows

1420
01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:34.279
you know, people working together to the benefit of all,

1421
01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:37.359
which we really need to hear these days. Right. And

1422
01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:40.720
so this is an incredibly relevant episode to what's going on,

1423
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:46.119
excuse me, in global society right now and within this

1424
01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:49.520
last week in particular, so really wild. So there's a

1425
01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:53.560
lot of negotiations going on with President Sadal excuse me.

1426
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:58.119
But meanwhile, Caleb, who's still kind of very much anti

1427
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:01.239
authority at this point, right trouble left and right, thinking

1428
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:04.079
he might just blow down and leave right, get done right,

1429
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:06.600
he still wants to find his mother right, and he's

1430
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:09.600
not sure he can really just focus and do all

1431
01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:12.600
the Starfleet Academy things he needs to do. He forms

1432
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:18.199
this interesting bond with Tarima Sadal, right, who's President Sadal's daughter, right,

1433
01:30:18.279 --> 01:30:22.720
Who's a striking influence on him and really exactly what

1434
01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:25.840
he needs, right. And I would not dismiss their relationship

1435
01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:28.560
as team romance angst. I mean, there's a bit of that,

1436
01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:32.000
but I really like what they did with their It

1437
01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:34.199
was really really cool. There's a little bit of a

1438
01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:40.000
romantic connection, of course there is, right, but there's and

1439
01:30:40.039 --> 01:30:42.960
there's conflict because she thinks at one point that he's

1440
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:44.479
I won't get in all the details of the plot,

1441
01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:47.239
but she she's worried that, you know, Caleb is like

1442
01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:50.039
using her to get information, right. But there is just

1443
01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:54.039
some great campus life stuff going on here with the

1444
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:57.920
EMH characters dealing with mundane things, them trying to get

1445
01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:00.439
people to join the campus opera club. Like star our

1446
01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:02.800
Fleet Academy has all these different clubs and things going

1447
01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:06.720
on to try to create culture and create bonding in

1448
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:10.760
the community. How refretting is that? And I thought it

1449
01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:13.239
was really a nice thing too. Without hitting anybody over

1450
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.720
the head with it right that the President Sadal uses

1451
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.800
like sign language communicate, right, he's a telepath, has like

1452
01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:23.079
a little device that allows you know, like the interpretation

1453
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:25.640
of his sign language into like audible speech, so you

1454
01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:28.960
can communicate and it's no big deal. Everyone understands each

1455
01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:31.600
other and it works beautifully. So it was a real

1456
01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:34.479
uh you know, victory for the disability community to have

1457
01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:37.640
that featured so prominently. I thought that was outstanding, so really,

1458
01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:40.560
really great. I just think this was a really cool episode.

1459
01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:44.520
I love the fact that they did show the whales. Damn,

1460
01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:48.680
that was unfortunate. CG. Though, Wow, that was not ready,

1461
01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:50.119
not ready.

1462
01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:54.239
Like with every amazing It was almost like they didn't.

1463
01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:57.800
It was it was like worse than you'd see on

1464
01:31:58.000 --> 01:31:59.520
like I hate to say it, but worse than you'd

1465
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:01.359
see on lower decks. I mean, it was just like,

1466
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:03.000
you know, they could have had lower decks whales and

1467
01:32:03.039 --> 01:32:05.439
it would have looked more realistic. I was like, but

1468
01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:08.000
you know, it's what six seven million dollars an episode.

1469
01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:11.079
They're scrambling to me, you know, and you know, sometimes

1470
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:12.319
you got to go with what you got. It's a

1471
01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:15.359
realistic thing. But you know, I was still able to

1472
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:19.279
suspend disbelief because it was a really nicely written scene, right,

1473
01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:23.119
and the actors, you know, screw the computer generated stuff, right,

1474
01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:26.359
the actors, the two of them, in their charisma and

1475
01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:28.760
chemistry really sold me and I wanted things to work

1476
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:32.439
out for them. And at the end a wonderful compromise

1477
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:34.199
is I don't want to spoil it in case you

1478
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:37.760
haven't seen the episode, but but you know, Hubris and

1479
01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:42.560
Ego are abandoned in the interest of trying to make

1480
01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:47.800
someone else's feel more comfortable about the future in their society.

1481
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.680
I thought that was a brilliant move that they did

1482
01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:54.119
there to win Betazeed's trust, to give trust to them,

1483
01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:57.000
and I thought that was just outstanding. This is the

1484
01:32:57.079 --> 01:32:59.119
kind of television we need right now, all right, And

1485
01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:01.840
I really just continue to love these characters in here.

1486
01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:05.880
It's really great. Sorry, I just could I talk about

1487
01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:07.800
the show. I kind of get excited and got off

1488
01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:10.039
the tangent. So I'll go ahead and give you my

1489
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:12.159
score now, no surprise, it's a nine because I freaking

1490
01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:14.199
loved it and I just think it's an excellent show.

1491
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:16.560
And if you're not watching this, you really really should be.

1492
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:18.680
And I can't wait to see where they take it.

1493
01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:21.439
So this was just again one two punch of the

1494
01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:26.840
first two episodes, just splendid and really entertaining and you know, fun.

1495
01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:29.279
The episodes wrap up, I'm like that was really great

1496
01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:31.079
and I'm smiling and I'm like ready for more. How

1497
01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:33.760
often do you feel that excellent?

1498
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:34.960
So how about Dear Child.

1499
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:42.479
I think we got some fans score to talk about.

1500
01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:50.079
I want to know what the fans thought.

1501
01:33:56.159 --> 01:33:56.560
That would be?

1502
01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:01.520
H Eric, Sorry, I realized I was muted. I was

1503
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:02.479
already talking all right.

1504
01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:02.760
Well.

1505
01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:07.399
Fan l Waterman Fan Julie Waterman gave it an eight.

1506
01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:10.119
It's a bit of a slow in places, but she's

1507
01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:13.359
really enjoying it, though. Christopher Willis said, I give it

1508
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:17.920
a nine out of ten. Kafelle Starling set a seven

1509
01:34:17.960 --> 01:34:20.760
point five show is written to bring in a generation

1510
01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:23.359
of fans, so I get the idea and writing. Definitely

1511
01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:26.399
not terrible. Discovery and Enterprise suffered from the same thing

1512
01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:31.880
bad casting, meaning none of the character actors or characters

1513
01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:35.119
really had much chemistry, unlike Strange New Worlds, where there

1514
01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:38.039
are multiple characters that are of interest and play well

1515
01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:41.479
off one another. Chapel And and Benga are the prime example.

1516
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:44.640
That do it best. Lincoln William Statler gave it a

1517
01:34:44.680 --> 01:34:47.399
nine point five. Michael Wilson gave it a six. It

1518
01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.680
feels like the show already struggling to find its identity

1519
01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:53.800
as early as episode two. We've got great characters we

1520
01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:56.560
know nothing about or reduced to cameos while we focus

1521
01:34:56.560 --> 01:35:00.239
on the worst and most annoying person. Sorry Caleb, but

1522
01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:03.880
I just don't care about your mommy issue angst. Thanks

1523
01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:08.479
Michael June Kay give it an eight out of ten.

1524
01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:11.720
I would love to see more technological reveals. What can

1525
01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:13.560
start Trek dream up now that it's freed from the

1526
01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:17.600
shackles of its own past. John Baker said with five

1527
01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:21.079
being I was entertained enough to continue watching without complaining.

1528
01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:25.199
I'm looking at a seven. Pretty good. Paula Binatti gave

1529
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:28.199
it a ten. Jamie Copperweight give it a nine, and

1530
01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:31.399
Ed Gabor gave it a five. For a solid fan

1531
01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:33.720
score of eight point zero.

1532
01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:40.039
Charles go, all right, a couple of things I'm gonna

1533
01:35:40.039 --> 01:35:43.039
throw in from one of the scenes that I liked.

1534
01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:47.399
They do this long shot and we see the Bay

1535
01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:51.720
of San Francisco, and what do we see on there?

1536
01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:58.560
Alcatraz Island is still there. It's like, Okay, Alcatraz, I'm

1537
01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:00.560
not sure what they're doing on the island, and but

1538
01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:04.560
the island's still there. It's like, I think it's still

1539
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:07.159
a historical monument. So I'm glad to still stee it

1540
01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:11.640
in there. One of the species I saw in here,

1541
01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:18.760
and to add in Kelpian, I saw Kelpian in there,

1542
01:36:19.079 --> 01:36:24.039
and that actor still had the arm waves in the back.

1543
01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:27.880
It's like, Okay, I think somebody's still doing a good

1544
01:36:27.960 --> 01:36:31.159
job teaching them how to properly walk and.

1545
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:31.960
How to move.

1546
01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:36.600
I still like that they keep that same same way

1547
01:36:37.159 --> 01:36:39.960
the room moved. I like what they're doing with it.

1548
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:47.920
The story with hm hmm, how he connected with the

1549
01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:53.359
data is aid I think with definitely and interesting how

1550
01:36:53.399 --> 01:37:02.560
she could keet she was kind of kid hmmm. Kind

1551
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:07.359
of scene yep, sorry, catching where her catching trying to

1552
01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:16.479
understand his feelings without really diving into invasive she'd somewhat

1553
01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:19.479
understand how he felt, but she wasn't getting really invasive

1554
01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:25.479
on his emotions, so that she didn't really understand what

1555
01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:28.239
was going on with him. I think was a good

1556
01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:34.159
plot line with that. I love how he's trying to escape.

1557
01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:39.880
I love the I love the scene dealing with the

1558
01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:44.199
mucus and it's like, okay, we're going to be studying

1559
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:48.199
this mucus and we see what happens when the mucus

1560
01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:52.199
gets loose on somebody, and then we got to sit

1561
01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:55.079
there and bring out the safety equipment and freeze it

1562
01:37:56.359 --> 01:38:02.279
and kind of distort somebody's poor uniform. Definitely a funny

1563
01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:06.479
scene with that trying to climb the wall and somebody

1564
01:38:06.479 --> 01:38:10.159
who actually kind of convinces them not to. Okay, that

1565
01:38:10.319 --> 01:38:17.039
kind of worked out. To see them kind of wandering

1566
01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:21.119
the academy and see what the academy was like. I

1567
01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:25.239
loved going in and seeing some of these places astrometrics

1568
01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.479
going down and seeing the whale habitat. Yeah, they could

1569
01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:32.439
have done a little better job with that, but hey,

1570
01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:36.439
it still gave me the impression that I could still

1571
01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:40.039
kind of know. It's like, okay, those are that's the whale,

1572
01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:44.960
and they talk about the pregnancy. It's like, okay, I'm

1573
01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:47.640
not worrying about the visual. It still gives me the

1574
01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:53.760
impression to realize that they're still there and how they

1575
01:38:53.800 --> 01:39:00.560
go through negotiations with these with these dealings, especially with

1576
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:03.680
the negotiator that you can kind of tell doesn't want

1577
01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:07.960
to change, and they take bats about how he wants

1578
01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:14.359
to put the capital back into Paris, and it's like, well, see,

1579
01:39:14.439 --> 01:39:18.760
you're not changing either, and I think they kind of realize, Okay,

1580
01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:21.720
if we're going to change, we've got to do something

1581
01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:27.000
drastic to make it more credible and the more open

1582
01:39:27.079 --> 01:39:31.680
to who we're dealing with. So I'm gonna let other

1583
01:39:31.680 --> 01:39:34.319
people catch on this story. But I'm also going with

1584
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:40.720
A nine. This was another a good episode, all right.

1585
01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:43.479
A nine from childs How about you? David?

1586
01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:59.680
Yep, uh, We'm not what's going on? Yeah?

1587
01:39:58.439 --> 01:40:00.880
Se we can't hear him.

1588
01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:05.720
We can't hear you.

1589
01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:14.399
Yeah, I mean, another great episode. And seeing the boothby

1590
01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:21.000
Memorial Garden that was something that was really neat, hearkening

1591
01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:25.720
back to you know, TNG and we also saw him

1592
01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:29.680
in Voyager. Now was this the episode?

1593
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:30.359
I mean?

1594
01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:35.359
Was this the one where somebody's pulling a prank, which

1595
01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:39.159
is so you know college where every Now was that

1596
01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:42.720
the one before where they get being naked onto the No?

1597
01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:44.199
Have you already watched.

1598
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:46.720
Year?

1599
01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:48.000
Going?

1600
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:51.119
Okay, I must have been like, I know I haven't

1601
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:54.840
been feeling well, but I must have been anyway, sorry,

1602
01:40:54.960 --> 01:41:00.239
never mind disregarded and saying anything. I just love the

1603
01:41:00.840 --> 01:41:03.880
having I mean, you can't go wrong with Robert Picardo

1604
01:41:04.399 --> 01:41:06.159
and I do have to. I mean, I want to

1605
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:10.079
say I have take issue with with the comment about,

1606
01:41:10.199 --> 01:41:12.680
you know, not feeling sorry for Caleb with his you

1607
01:41:12.720 --> 01:41:18.000
know mommy angst. This is I mean, this is yeah,

1608
01:41:18.079 --> 01:41:21.399
it's a story, but this is happening in real time

1609
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:26.079
where and this has happened over time throughout our history,

1610
01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:30.880
where children are getting separated from their their mothers and fathers.

1611
01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:35.279
And that's not anything that anybody would you know, get

1612
01:41:35.319 --> 01:41:39.119
over anytime soon. I mean, we had that similar sort

1613
01:41:39.119 --> 01:41:43.119
of thing in you know, Star Wars with Anakin and

1614
01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:48.239
his mother. So to say that is just just I'm sorry,

1615
01:41:48.279 --> 01:41:52.560
that just that just I don't know, that just really

1616
01:41:52.600 --> 01:41:55.520
bothered me. As far as the casting, No, the casting

1617
01:41:55.600 --> 01:41:59.000
is great. Like I said, Holly Hunter, I mean, oh

1618
01:41:59.039 --> 01:42:04.199
my god, and all of them actually whoever they you know,

1619
01:42:04.239 --> 01:42:07.239
all these people that maybe this is their first role,

1620
01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:12.279
and I know I saw one and I shouldn't harken

1621
01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:16.119
back to negative comments, but somebody who clearly doesn't know

1622
01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:21.319
how the acting business works was saying that, oh, none

1623
01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:23.840
of these people will ever be able to get work again.

1624
01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:26.159
It's like, oh, please, come on, you don't know how

1625
01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:29.800
it works. You're not you know, just because if you're

1626
01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:32.760
in a bad show, which this is not, to be clear,

1627
01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:38.920
that's not going to ruin your career hopefully, But I

1628
01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:42.039
don't know. I just I thought, I don't know. Sorry,

1629
01:42:42.079 --> 01:42:44.760
I'm trying to think and talk and it's not working.

1630
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:50.239
Now just the whole thing was. I like it better.

1631
01:42:50.239 --> 01:42:54.479
It was less swearing in it for me, So I

1632
01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:56.640
will give this one a nine point five. It was

1633
01:42:57.239 --> 01:42:59.920
really good. I want to see more.

1634
01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:03.399
Point five that. Eric. What do you think?

1635
01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.920
Yeah, agreeing with much of what people are saying. I

1636
01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:11.439
kind of saw like three main sort of themes being

1637
01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:17.039
explored in the episode. There's like the whole betazoid diplomatic thing,

1638
01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:20.840
which as a fan of Deep Space nine, that idea

1639
01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:23.840
of an episode based on political intrigue was very interesting

1640
01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:26.359
to me, and I'm willing to like watch them stand

1641
01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:28.560
there and debate one another back and forth. I thought

1642
01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:32.399
that was really really compelling. I've seen people complain about

1643
01:43:32.760 --> 01:43:35.960
the fact that he's using ASL and I saw somebody

1644
01:43:35.960 --> 01:43:38.880
else say, well, actually, it kind of makes sense because

1645
01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:42.760
as telepassed, the Betazoids would never need a visual language, right,

1646
01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:44.479
they could just talk to each other through their heads.

1647
01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:47.239
So when they had to adapt one, they took the

1648
01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:49.680
one that the Federation was using, which was ASL. So

1649
01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:51.800
you know, no, it's not a Betazoid language, but a

1650
01:43:51.840 --> 01:43:53.920
Betazoid is using it. So I kind of liked that

1651
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:58.399
headcanon on that, So that whole thing was great. I

1652
01:43:58.439 --> 01:44:02.600
loved the the fact that he came to say no

1653
01:44:03.359 --> 01:44:08.119
and that he eventually was turned around through compromise. So

1654
01:44:08.399 --> 01:44:10.119
just that's the way it should be. That's the way

1655
01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:12.640
we should talk with one another, that's the way we

1656
01:44:12.920 --> 01:44:17.159
should move through the world exactly. Just was resonated very

1657
01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:20.239
well for me. The second one, the kind of like

1658
01:44:20.319 --> 01:44:24.359
Caleb and Tarima thing just very sweet, you know, they're

1659
01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:30.560
kind of like exploring one another's personalities, cute little banter things,

1660
01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:36.199
humor looks. So just as a kind of romantic subplot

1661
01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:39.199
to that, I thought it was delightful. I also thought

1662
01:44:39.279 --> 01:44:43.039
the kind of how she felt betrayal, you know, from him,

1663
01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:45.680
once he learned that, or once she learned that he

1664
01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:48.399
was just trying to find the planet, the Gojia five

1665
01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:51.039
planet where his mom was supposed to be, but she

1666
01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:53.680
did help him, so you know, I mean, look at

1667
01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:58.880
those arms, who wouldn't. But so, just a really cute story.

1668
01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:01.279
And then as the third part that I just thought

1669
01:45:01.319 --> 01:45:03.840
was really cool was like the whole academy in the atmosphere.

1670
01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:05.840
You know, you've got great characters. You guys have already

1671
01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:09.640
said like Thok, who's amazing, just a drill sergeant like

1672
01:45:09.800 --> 01:45:13.239
pounded it in and we how could she be so

1673
01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:16.399
like hard ass and we love her so much. I

1674
01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:19.880
just it's like, that's such a cool dynamic. We learned

1675
01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:22.640
that there's something called the War College, which got me

1676
01:45:22.720 --> 01:45:26.039
kind of thinking about Makos and like enterprise and that

1677
01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:29.239
sort of thing, and the split between military and federation.

1678
01:45:29.439 --> 01:45:31.079
So I think that's kind of an interesting thing that

1679
01:45:31.159 --> 01:45:34.960
out of the burn comes this war college thing, and

1680
01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:36.920
I would love to explore that a little bit more,

1681
01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:41.399
like I can see some some war college federation kind

1682
01:45:41.399 --> 01:45:45.199
of like you know, friction happening at some point in

1683
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:50.199
an episode. So just very interesting concept. And then yeah,

1684
01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:52.880
the couple of familiar faces that we saw was great

1685
01:45:52.880 --> 01:45:56.399
to see Pacardo, was great to hear him sing again,

1686
01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:59.000
which we got to hear on voyager and that was

1687
01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:00.920
kind of like at a great scene where it was

1688
01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:03.600
nice and extended. You know, it starts with them singing,

1689
01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:05.800
it pans down to the party, it shows them again,

1690
01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:07.439
it pans down to the party, it shows them again.

1691
01:46:07.479 --> 01:46:10.159
I just like that kind of It's very it feels

1692
01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.159
like a period piece, like you're watching something on Hallmark Channel.

1693
01:46:13.239 --> 01:46:13.399
Right.

1694
01:46:13.800 --> 01:46:17.800
It's so anyway, there was nothing that I didn't like

1695
01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:20.840
about this episode, and once again, like Paul, I try

1696
01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:23.640
to reserve tens for mind blowing stuff, so I will

1697
01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:25.520
get this one a nine. It was just I liked

1698
01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:28.600
it even better than the pilot personally, So.

1699
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:31.479
You guys are pretty much covered everything. I do want

1700
01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:35.000
to say two things I noticed in the audience when

1701
01:46:35.039 --> 01:46:37.239
the Vagazoids got there and they were doing their thing,

1702
01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:40.439
there was a guy in a wheelchair, which I thought

1703
01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:44.479
was just the fact that they was awesome. And I

1704
01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:49.439
noticed a woman wearing a hijib hidjib diijib is that

1705
01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:54.600
it hit job twice, once walking up the stairs and

1706
01:46:54.600 --> 01:46:55.840
one standing in the audience.

1707
01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:58.720
And we've mentioned that on the podcast before, the.

1708
01:46:58.640 --> 01:47:01.640
Fact that they included that I thought was great.

1709
01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:06.279
Love the episode. Uh yeah, I'm with you.

1710
01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:07.479
Guys, I'm going to give it a nine, and I

1711
01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:10.399
can't think of anything else to say. I'm going to

1712
01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:13.279
give it a nine. So, Charles, how do we stack

1713
01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:16.079
up next to our Facebook fan, David?

1714
01:47:16.159 --> 01:47:18.039
Just give us a Just give us a number. We

1715
01:47:18.079 --> 01:47:20.359
still can't hear you. Just give us like a sign

1716
01:47:20.439 --> 01:47:23.399
of what your number is that you like for this show?

1717
01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:23.640
Is it?

1718
01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:27.760
He put it in the chat it's a six point five?

1719
01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:30.960
Too bad? We can't hear David's.

1720
01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:35.159
David, can you use a s L to tell us

1721
01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:40.239
what you are thinking and help us to help you? Yeah.

1722
01:47:40.359 --> 01:47:45.479
I'm also thinking of remember in TNG where they had

1723
01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:53.319
Riba and he had his chorus that you know, communicated

1724
01:47:53.680 --> 01:47:56.800
for him. Do you remember that? And then and then

1725
01:47:56.840 --> 01:47:58.920
they were and then they were all they were and

1726
01:47:59.319 --> 01:48:03.039
that actor it was really yeah, he really was was

1727
01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:04.520
deaf and.

1728
01:48:04.479 --> 01:48:07.159
He was was this this actor was as well.

1729
01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:10.199
Yeah, yeah, that's right. So I think that should be

1730
01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:15.239
for anybody that criticizes where they're using it. Well, you

1731
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:19.319
know guess what they did deal with it? I thought

1732
01:48:19.359 --> 01:48:20.279
it was fantastic.

1733
01:48:22.239 --> 01:48:27.760
Ye okay, uh so we have all of the Trexford

1734
01:48:27.800 --> 01:48:32.560
scores now, Charles, So where does that get us in summary,

1735
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:36.119
Charles are muted.

1736
01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:48.479
The host. The host gave an eight point seven.

1737
01:48:48.760 --> 01:48:51.880
Almost reaching that nine.

1738
01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:58.399
Guys, you just need to get them more couraged.

1739
01:49:02.239 --> 01:49:05.079
Star Trek Birthday Time, Star.

1740
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:16.680
Trek Birthday Time.

1741
01:49:23.159 --> 01:49:24.560
That was not a cl song.

1742
01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:25.600
All right, guys.

1743
01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:27.880
I cut the birthdays way back because I knew we

1744
01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:28.960
had a lot to talk about.

1745
01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:31.520
But we do have some important remembrances, and for that

1746
01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:32.520
we turned to Eric.

1747
01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:37.039
We have four remembrances this week, Jim. We are starting

1748
01:49:37.079 --> 01:49:40.479
with actor Michael Pataki, the actor who played four X

1749
01:49:40.640 --> 01:49:42.840
in the t US second season episode The Trouble with

1750
01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:47.399
Triples and also played carnass in the Next Generation first

1751
01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:51.479
season episode two short a season. Michael was a TV

1752
01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:54.119
actor in the sixties who appeared on tons of shows,

1753
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:57.800
including two episodes of King Tut episodes of Batman. You

1754
01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:01.800
remember King Tut Batman, Yeah, that was him. He was

1755
01:50:01.840 --> 01:50:06.520
also in a s exploitation film called Carnal Madness in

1756
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:11.000
nineteen seventy five, but he's perhaps best known for his

1757
01:50:11.039 --> 01:50:14.479
cult movie. Yeah, he played Count Dracula in a nineteen

1758
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:20.000
seventy eight B movie classic, Dracula's Dog. Anyway, I had

1759
01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:23.359
to throw that in there. Michael Pataki, fantastic actor. Thank

1760
01:50:23.399 --> 01:50:26.039
you for your contributions. We lost him back in twenty ten.

1761
01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:30.119
Happy birthday. Happy birthday to Nancy and Parsons, the actress

1762
01:50:30.119 --> 01:50:33.239
who portrayed Marook in the Next Generation third season episode

1763
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:37.520
The Vengeance Factor, definitely best known for her memorable role

1764
01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:41.479
as Coach Beulah Ballbricker in all three installments of The

1765
01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:45.439
Porky's Movies, and interestingly, she played a nurse five times

1766
01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:50.359
and other stuff. Thanks Happy birthday, Nancy, Happy birthday as

1767
01:50:50.359 --> 01:50:52.560
well to somebody who's not in the Star Trek family

1768
01:50:52.720 --> 01:50:57.039
but who deserves to be honored. James Earl Jones. That's right,

1769
01:50:57.119 --> 01:50:59.680
we lost him not too long ago, just back in

1770
01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:02.640
twenty twenty four, of course. The American actor and voice

1771
01:51:02.680 --> 01:51:06.800
actor who appeared in many films over his forty year period,

1772
01:51:07.399 --> 01:51:11.960
beginning with Stanley Kubrick's classic Doctor Strangelove. But he's best known,

1773
01:51:12.399 --> 01:51:15.279
of course, among sci fi nerds, is the voice of

1774
01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:18.840
Darth Vader in the Star Wars films. He reprised his

1775
01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:21.439
voice role a Vader in Star Wars Rebels, Rogue One,

1776
01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:24.760
a Star Wars Story, The Rise of Skywalker, and Star

1777
01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:29.239
Wars Obi Wan Kenobi in his brilliant course of memorable performances.

1778
01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:33.560
Among other things, he has appeared on the Simpsons several times.

1779
01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:39.640
He played Mufassa in The Lion King and the twenty

1780
01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:43.680
nineteen version of The Lion King as well. So amazing actor.

1781
01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:46.079
I think we all know his face and just love

1782
01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:48.960
him so much. Happy birthday to James Earl Jones. And

1783
01:51:49.039 --> 01:51:50.960
last but not least, one of the Big Three, we

1784
01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:54.560
say happy birthday this week to Jackson DeForest Kelly, famous

1785
01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:58.279
of course for his role as Leonard Bones McCoy on

1786
01:51:58.439 --> 01:52:01.800
the original series, going on of course to voice that

1787
01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:06.039
character on TAS, also played him in the movies. Also

1788
01:52:06.079 --> 01:52:08.760
played a one hundred and thirty seven year old version

1789
01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:11.720
of that character on Star Trek the Next Generation in

1790
01:52:11.760 --> 01:52:15.000
the episode Encounter at far Point. This guy was a

1791
01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:18.840
World War two vet. He was actually discovered by Paramount

1792
01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:23.520
because he was involved in like propaganda films for the military,

1793
01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.039
so that's kind of how he was found. And he

1794
01:52:27.239 --> 01:52:31.840
always was Gene Rodberry's first choice for doctor, but it

1795
01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:34.840
was other producers that kept bringing in other characters.

1796
01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:35.079
You know.

1797
01:52:35.199 --> 01:52:38.399
That's how we got Paul Fix as a doctor in

1798
01:52:38.399 --> 01:52:42.079
one of our pilots and that's how we got Oh sorry,

1799
01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:44.560
it was Robert Butler's the director, Robert Butler who was

1800
01:52:44.680 --> 01:52:48.520
being bringing in these other guys. So eventually, of course

1801
01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.520
he would get the doctor Rodberry, we get the doctor

1802
01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:56.399
he wanted. So Kelly's first episode as Bones is actually

1803
01:52:56.479 --> 01:52:59.600
the Corramite maneuver, not till a little bit later. So

1804
01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:02.359
last thing I want to say about him, I'm probably

1805
01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:04.520
I'm trying to go fast, but this is just such

1806
01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:06.479
a great thing that he said. So a few months

1807
01:53:06.520 --> 01:53:09.520
prior to making his appearance and encounter at farpoint, Kelly

1808
01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:13.399
expressed skepticism about the next generation. He said, it's a

1809
01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:16.159
mystery to me why they're all doing it. He remarked,

1810
01:53:16.439 --> 01:53:18.600
I assume Paramount thinks they can hold on to that

1811
01:53:18.680 --> 01:53:22.399
Star Trek phenomena. There's no doubt it can't go on forever.

1812
01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:24.760
So they're trying in a way to keep it going.

1813
01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:28.119
But there's only one Star Trek, and that's ours. And

1814
01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:30.840
I am happy to report that mister DeForest Kelly was

1815
01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:33.840
wrong in that regard, and Star Trek is still alive

1816
01:53:33.960 --> 01:53:36.359
and kicking and better than ever. So well, we still

1817
01:53:36.399 --> 01:53:37.199
happy birthday to you.

1818
01:53:37.399 --> 01:53:40.479
Yeah, yeah, we still love him.

1819
01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:43.000
Of course we do, so happy birthday to you, sir.

1820
01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:47.039
Star Trek wouldn't be what it is without your contributions,

1821
01:53:47.039 --> 01:53:50.960
and we just appreciate that. So I'm going to very

1822
01:53:51.039 --> 01:53:53.199
quickly pass this flaving birthday candle over to my good

1823
01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:54.439
friend Charles.

1824
01:53:54.880 --> 01:53:58.399
Oh, thank you, Eric. Let's start off with a very

1825
01:53:58.399 --> 01:54:01.560
happy birthday to a non tree but one of our favorites,

1826
01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:07.479
Sir Tom Baker, who played the Fourth Doctor from nineteen

1827
01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:11.319
seventy four to nineteen eighty one and later apprize the

1828
01:54:11.439 --> 01:54:16.199
roles the thirteenth Anniversary Children and Need Special dimensions in time.

1829
01:54:17.920 --> 01:54:24.960
That scarf is still a still very popular with fans

1830
01:54:25.039 --> 01:54:28.479
and knitters. We still see people who sit there and say, oh,

1831
01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:31.560
I got to make a doctor Who's scarf because that's

1832
01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:35.720
the one they remember is Tom Baker's. And a very

1833
01:54:35.720 --> 01:54:36.880
happy birthday.

1834
01:54:36.479 --> 01:54:37.000
To ease it.

1835
01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:42.239
Briones English American actress who plays Sogi. I can't think

1836
01:54:42.279 --> 01:54:46.880
of the other girl other one the two of Data's

1837
01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:51.079
daughters in the first and the first and second season

1838
01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:56.600
is Star Trek Brocard and a very well singing voice

1839
01:54:56.600 --> 01:55:00.680
as well. Now I'm gonna toss a flame in candle

1840
01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:01.359
over to Paul.

1841
01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:06.000
Thank you, Charles. First of all, let's say happy birthday

1842
01:55:06.039 --> 01:55:10.800
to Naveen Andrews, phenomenal British American actor who voiced Khan

1843
01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:17.119
Noonian Singh in Star Trek Khan, the audio podcast drama

1844
01:55:18.199 --> 01:55:21.319
that we have just spent weeks and weeks reviewing on

1845
01:55:21.359 --> 01:55:23.640
this very show. So if you've not checked that out yet,

1846
01:55:23.680 --> 01:55:27.760
it's a great chance to discover it. Of course, a

1847
01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:32.279
lot of people discovered Navigen Andrews on the jj Abrams

1848
01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:36.800
Damon Lindeloff series Lost, where he played said Jirab very

1849
01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:40.399
memorably on that show. Phenomenal. He was nominated for Golden

1850
01:55:40.399 --> 01:55:43.239
Globe on that and memory serves I think he had

1851
01:55:43.239 --> 01:55:45.079
a roll on The English Patient too. I'm pretty sure

1852
01:55:45.079 --> 01:55:48.159
he did. If I correctly, I'll have to double check

1853
01:55:48.239 --> 01:55:52.199
that one. I'm not live the air, but amazing Andrews,

1854
01:55:52.239 --> 01:55:56.640
Happy birthday. We don't just acknowledge folks who got out

1855
01:55:56.640 --> 01:55:59.399
of space in fiction. We acknowledge folks who do it

1856
01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:01.840
in real life. And so it's a big happy birthday

1857
01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:08.399
to American astronaut buzz aldron Okay aeronautical engineer, fighter pilot

1858
01:56:08.439 --> 01:56:13.439
and yes, astronaut. He made three spacewalks a pilot of

1859
01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:17.039
the nineteen sixty six Gemini twelve mission, and was the

1860
01:56:17.159 --> 01:56:22.079
Lunar Module Eagle pilot on the nineteen sixty nine Apollo

1861
01:56:22.079 --> 01:56:25.640
eleven moon landing mission. He was the second person to

1862
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:29.520
walk on the Moon after mission Commander Neil Armston. The

1863
01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:35.760
hero a legend. So buzz Aldron, We salute you, sir,

1864
01:56:36.079 --> 01:56:41.680
and history to remembers you fondly. And this one is

1865
01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:43.880
just what a pleasure to freaking be able to say

1866
01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:46.199
Happy birthday to this guy. Oh my god, I was

1867
01:56:46.279 --> 01:56:49.039
just to talk about the legends of the film. The

1868
01:56:49.079 --> 01:56:55.479
great John Carpenter filmmaker, music composer, actor, very often considered

1869
01:56:55.520 --> 01:57:00.239
a genre luminary associated with action, horror, and science fiction

1870
01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:03.359
films in the seventies and eighties. He is a minister

1871
01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:08.159
of the genre. Really quickly Halloween, The Fog, Escape from

1872
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:11.479
New York, The Thing, Christine Starman, Big Trouble in the

1873
01:57:11.479 --> 01:57:14.920
Little China, Prince of Darkness, They Live. It just goes

1874
01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:17.760
on and on and on. This guy has made more

1875
01:57:17.800 --> 01:57:21.439
cool badass like you know, drive in type pictures, many

1876
01:57:21.520 --> 01:57:23.680
of them with his famous partnership with Kurt Russell. That

1877
01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:27.399
will live for freaking ever. I watch Escape from New

1878
01:57:27.479 --> 01:57:30.039
York at least once a year. It is absolutely fantastic.

1879
01:57:30.119 --> 01:57:33.359
I love this guy. I just make more movies Jean

1880
01:57:33.399 --> 01:57:35.800
Carpenter while we Got You. I just think he's phenomenal.

1881
01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:39.600
I love him. I love his work. It's hard to

1882
01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:44.520
think of horror without so amazing stuff. Some great birthdays

1883
01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:46.800
and has it love real quick, Uncle Jim, Uncle Jim,

1884
01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:47.399
take it away.

1885
01:57:47.760 --> 01:57:48.680
Thank you so much, Paul.

1886
01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:50.760
I'm want to squeeze his last two in We want

1887
01:57:50.800 --> 01:57:54.279
to say. Happy birthday to Jeff Jaeger. No relation to myself.

1888
01:57:55.039 --> 01:57:57.920
He played Iden in a Voyager seventh season episode Flesh

1889
01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:00.920
and Blood. He's best known for his role as Kyle

1890
01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:06.079
Bates in the nineteen eighties television series The No relation

1891
01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:07.920
to the the the.

1892
01:58:07.960 --> 01:58:09.359
Series You Know.

1893
01:58:11.399 --> 01:58:16.800
Who could be Yeah, and last definitely not least good

1894
01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:19.680
friend of mine, good friend of the podcast. We did

1895
01:58:19.680 --> 01:58:23.359
a show called Stunt Treks for about a year during COVID.

1896
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Happy birthday to Leslie Hoffman. She's been involved in starts

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her for many, many years. She's best known as a

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lot of Touris's stunt double, but I think most people

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would know her as the nightmare on Elm Street. Freddy

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Kruger Hall Minu. No running in the hallway was her

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big line in that movie, Happy Birthday to Leslie Hoffman.

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And that, my friends, wraps up our show. Next week,

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we're gonna have Gabrielle Ruez on from lower down. You

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want to tune in for that? You don't want to?

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Who knows? Holly Hunter may stop, Pie, Paul Giamonte might stop.

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We never know, You never know.

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I've got pokers in the fire all over the place. Nice,

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So thank you so much for joining us.

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Everybody.

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I hope you guys enjoyed Star Trek Starfleet Academy as

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much as myself and my Trek spirts did. Looking forward

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to watching tonight's episode and coming back next week. I'm

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your most excellent host, Uncle Jim saying, everybody, please stay

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safe and be good to each other. I want to

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say thank you to Eric for hanging out and Trek

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talking with us tonight.

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Thank you so much, Eric, you bet, thanks everyone.

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Thank you so much to Paul for Trek talking with us,

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is sharing some opinions.

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Thank you, Paul, my pleasure friends, thank you, and.

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Thank you so much to Be as well for hanging

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out and Shrek talking with us. Tonight.

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Thank you be always always fun.

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And I don't know if David can hear us, but

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thank you so much David for hanging out with us tonight.

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Okay, the voice has changed.

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Than so much, and to finally get to talk to

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these episodes, it's been great.

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Okay, guys, hailing frequencies are closed, and please stay safe,

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be good to each other, and join in next week.

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Good night, everybody, long and prosper.

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All stations.

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I'm ready for departure, sir.

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Some problem, right, just something. This isn't the usual way

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of missions will.

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Go, sir.

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Oh no, I'm sure most will be much more interesting.

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Let's see what mhm.

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Okay, okay, we made it.