Feb. 13, 2026

Episode 672 - ADAM NIMOY interview

Episode 672 - ADAM NIMOY interview
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In this engaging episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, host Uncle Jim and his crew welcomes Adam Nimoy, son of the legendary Leonard Nimoy, to discuss his experiences in the Star Trek universe, his journey as a director, and the impact of his father's legacy. The conversation delves into the pressures of directing, the importance of humor on set, and the emotional connections that Star Trek fosters among its fans. Adam shares personal stories about his family dynamics, the significance of diversity and inclusion in Star Trek, and his future projects, all while reflecting on the passion that drives his work in filmmaking. In this engaging conversation, Adam Nimoy reflects on his father's legacy, Leonard Nimoy, and the cultural impact of Star Trek. The discussion delves into personal anecdotes, behind-the-scenes memories, and the relationships that shaped the series. The hosts celebrate the contributions of various Star Trek films and music, while also engaging with their fan community through birthday shoutouts and remembrances.
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Well, good evening, trek Is and Treks around the Globe.

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It's Thursday, February twelve, twenty twenty six. Welcome to episode

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six hundred and seventy two of Trek Talking and Beyond.

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I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, and boy, we

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got a great show planned for you guys today. Before

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we go through bar, I like to go around and

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reduce all of my trek sports. First of all, I

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want to say hello to vv is out in Virginia.

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How you do it tonight?

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I am good and if I appear blue, I don't

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know why, but I am not an entorian. I just

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keep on fading in and out with being blue. I

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don't know why of all the nice to look weird.

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To her, you look fine to me. And we also

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have with us Eric. Eric is out in Portland. How

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you doing tonight?

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I am doing great, Jim. I'm pumped for tonight's show.

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Very excited to chat with Adam, so yeah, let's do it.

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Absolutely. We also have with us David. He's our miracle worker.

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He's out in Portland as well. How you doing tonight, Ic.

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I'm sorry, David, I kind of look.

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Like, yeah, I'm doing but a good. Uh yeah, I'm

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super pumped. Well, I can't wait to get in and

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talk to Adam and see how this goes. Welcome Adam.

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And last but not least, we have with us child.

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Child is not in Las Vegas. How you doing tonight, Child?

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I'm doing good. Long day. Great to get to some

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Trek talking finally.

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Yep, it's been a long time. So without any further ado,

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we have with us right now live. We have Adam

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Eymoy and he's the son of the legendary Leonard Nimoy,

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mister Spot that we all know and love from Star Trek.

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He's also the ex husband of Terry Ferrell. That's from

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Deep Space nine. A lot of Star Trek connections here.

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He was the assistant to nuss Meyer on the set

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of Star Trek sixth The Undiscovered Country, and later directed

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the Starts with the Next Generation episodes Rascals and Time Skate.

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He's the author of two memoirs about his life, career,

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and relationship with his father, My Incredibly Wonderful, Miserable Life,

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originally published in two thousand and eight, and The Most Human,

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published in twenty twenty four. And with that, yep, there

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we go. He's got the book right there and without

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and further ado, I would like to introduce Adam and

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welcome him to the show. Welcome to the show, Adam.

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Thanks for having me. Jim appreciate it.

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I got to tell a little story before we get started,

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because that's what I do. I tell stray so.

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End of mine.

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Jerry Silver was at a synagogue in all but in

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New York where you were speaking, and he talked to

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you and he got how to get in touch with you,

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which I did, and then later on ended up having

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you at a convention in Schenecting in New York at

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practice theater called Fandom Best, and I ran into you

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over there as well, and we've been trying to work

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out your appearance on the show ever since that time.

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So I'm very very glad that we were able to

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finally get you on the show. Thank you so much.

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And I want to ask you a question that I

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asked every guest that comes on the show. What did

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you think about our intro song?

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I mean, get covered all the bases, that's for sure.

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It's just some images of things I hadn't seen or

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thought about in years.

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That's what we try to do. We try to have

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some fun. So I wanted to ask I wanted to

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talk to you a little bit about you're directing because

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your father, other than being you know, known as mister Spock,

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was also a great director, and you followed in his footsteps.

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And I wanted to know what was it like to

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direct your father because you actually had the opportunity to

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direct him. So what was it like to direct your father?

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Well, it was a great experience, actually, I mean it

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was kind of a big turning point in my directing career.

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It was my third episode. It was the Outer Limits

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episode that we made together. It was a remake of

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an episode that he was originally in back in the sixties,

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I robot and he had a supporting role in that episode.

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At the time, you know, my dad and I were

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doing pretty well together and he was trying to help

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me with my career. And I had directed the two

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Next Generation episodes but didn't know where to go next

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to try to.

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Find a job.

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It's very competitive finding these jobs directing one hour dramas.

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And my dad said, well, you know, we noticed that

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they were rebooting Showtime was was was rebooting the Outer

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Limits series and and my dad suggested going to them

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and pitching the idea of of remaking that episode with

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him in the in the lead role. He would be

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attached to it if I was attached to direct, and

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they agreed. So we got a script together and he

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and I went up to Vancouver to shoot it.

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It was great working with him.

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You know, my dad had helped me a lot in

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transitioning from practicing law into directing TV. He had given

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me a lot of advice and we sat down and

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broke down you know, scripts, and.

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He gave me a lot of assignments to.

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Do, and he was very helpful when we were on

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the show on the Otter Limits. He was he was

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nice in that it was great in that he was

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giving me a lot of feedback and positive instruction without

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acting in a condescending manner in front of the cast

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and crew.

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A lot of it.

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He would take me to the side and make suggestions

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to me about ways to economize on filmmaking, which was

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a big part of what he was all about, how

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to get great film quickly and save time because we're

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under so much time pressure when we made this show.

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Watching some of your father's movies, you know, what have

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you What did you learn from him? And how is

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your style different from his?

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Well, you know, with my dad, it's always on the page.

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It's got to be on the page. That's the whole

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deal is it's not on the page, it's not going

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to be in the show. You can't make a show

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in post production. You can't make a good film in

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post production. Being very specific about what the script looks like,

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what the theme of it is. My dad was very

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big on I mean, I learned a lot from him.

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The other thing was what is my personal connection to

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the story. He always felt that it was important to

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find some some way to connect on a personal level

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to what is the story that I was telling.

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It's the same thing with Dad and Spock. The reason

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why I think.

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Spock was so successful is that he had a personal

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identification with Fox Spock being the ultimate outsider, as was Leonard,

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coming from this bubble of an existence in the West

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End of Boston, the son of Russian immigrants at the time,

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and how to break out of that and get into

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American society. My dad was very much the outsider as well.

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So that kind of connection to the story or the

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character is critical to help you better tell that story

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or better play that character.

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Excellent. And I also want to ask when you were

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directing Star Trek, did you feel any pressure directing Star

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Trek being the son of Leonard Nimoy or what was

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that like the direct Star Trek.

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Well, there's always pressure. I mean, you know, you don't look.

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I was observing on that Next Generation for an entire

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season before Rick Berman gave me an episode to direct.

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You know, I was on my own dime.

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I was just following directors around, and there were a

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number of terrific directors, most notably David Carson, who shot

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the pilot for Deep Space nine. You know, I really

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glommed onto him because I really liked his style and

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his his the way he prepared to direct episodes.

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You know, it's all in the prep.

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This is another big you know, Leonard Nemoy school of

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directing is that you got to really do your homework

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before you get there. And David, you know, Carson was

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very big on that, you know, very detailed in his

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notes and his blocking and edit lists, cut lists, I mean,

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uh and and so I had to learn from these

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guys before I even got the episode.

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Well, when I finally got the episode, it's nothing.

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You know, you don't know what it's like until you're

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in it, and and directing you know yourself and you're

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in the in the driver's seat, it's a whole different perspective.

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And there was a lot of pressure, you know, and

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I made a lot of mistakes. Frankly, it was my

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first job, and I thought I knew what I was doing,

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but I didn't really. I mean, I directed a lot

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of short move films and scene work and but and

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the cast and crew were very good to me because

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I knew them well having been there for a year prior,

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so everybody was pretty patient with me. The second episode

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was more problematic because it was near the end of

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that season, and you know, after twenty two episodes, people

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are just tired and they are not as patient, you know,

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as they would otherwise be when they're fresher when you're

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starting the season out.

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So it was more challenging.

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It was more pressure then to try to step up

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to the plate and make less mistakes.

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But you just.

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Inevitably you do make mistakes.

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So good learning experiences. So grateful to the cast and crew.

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Marvin Rush and Jonathan West, you know, really helped me

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out on those I loved the cast of the Next Generation,

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all those people were very kind to me. And uh,

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and but it wasn't really until the Utter Limits that

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I came more into my own as a director. Uh.

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You know, when I started working with my dad on

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that episode, that's when I felt more confident and even

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though I made mistakes still, but I had more of

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a sense of what the rhythm is and what I

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needed to do to deliver a successful episode.

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Well. Uh, it was, as Patrick start, really the jokester

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on the sets when they're filming, like as we've heard.

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Well, I think it's freaks. I think the Franks is

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the biggest jokester on the side. I mean he's yeah,

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he's no, it's Jonathan.

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No.

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Not.

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When I worked with him, it wasn't Patrick.

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And and when I was watching them, it was it.

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Look they were all into it. After several seasons of

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these shows, you know, uh, you're just looking to break

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up the monotony sometimes so uh. And they did that

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on the first season of the original series. You know,

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Bill Shatner was always trying to get my dad to

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crack up and break character. They all work basically, That's

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why did that walk on on that first season, you know,

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to try to get a letter to start, you know,

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to laugh a little bit. You know, everybody, it's very,

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very difficult work. And this is a big part of

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directing that I discovered is is to look for the

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joke and make light of it, and to try to

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have fun and to bring enthusiasm to the project and

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a sense of preparedness, you know. I mean I taught

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directing for eight years at the New York Film Academy

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I at in Burbank. And and the fact of the

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matter is directing is performance art. Your audience is the

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cast and crew on that show. They're watching you because

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they want to know if you know what the hell

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you're doing because you know, it's a lot. It's a

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lot of work that has to get done in whatever

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it is, anywhere from six to eight to ten days,

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depending on your budget, and it's a pressure. So we're all.

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You know, I'm always looking for the joke. And one

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of the things I posted was I did it. I

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did this show with Michael Madson and I was really

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under pressure on that show to deliver and perform. I

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was called Vengeance Unlimited, and I was nervous my first day.

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Before Michael came on.

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You know, that guy had a reputation, you know, is

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being a bad boy in Hollywood. You know, fast cars,

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fast women, and playing fast and loose with the irs,

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you know, And I was worried about this guy. He

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was on Reservoir Dogs and he was not a pleasant character.

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But when he got on the set, the first thing

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he started saying to me was how much he loved

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Star Trek and loved Leonard.

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And I said to him, I.

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Put my arm around him and said, you know, well,

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you remember the episode where you know, Kirk was all

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upset about the triples and the quadrantry to Kayley. I

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put my arm around and I'm going to start to

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walk him off the set, and I looked back at

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the crew and I said to those guys, take five, guys,

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we'll be back.

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In a few minutes. We're going to talk track for

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a while.

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And they thought that was funny. You know, it was funny,

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you know, because it broke up, you know, the kind

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of the intenseness, the anticipation of And then after that,

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every day was just fun, pure fun, and we got

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great film.

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And it sets a tone.

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You know, so uh you know, you know, so when

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you know when Franks was doing it, I mean, Brent

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was doing they were all doing it. You know, they

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were all looking for the laugh and and you really

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begin to appreciate that after a while, the work is

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simply just too difficult.

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So one more question before I pass the microphone over

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to V. So, what is your favorite Star Trek movie movie? Yeah,

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the movies?

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Yeah, I would, I would always, you know, Gravitate towards

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Rathacon and and the reason for that is it's a

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great idea, it's a great film.

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It's Nick Meyer.

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It's without that we wouldn't have a lot of what

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we have. I really from me believe that. I mean,

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the first film was such a bummer. You know, it

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was just not it just did not. It missed the

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mark of what Star Trek was all about. And you know,

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I mean, great director Robert Wise, I mean, come on,

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you know, it's like West Side Story and Sound of

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Music and Davy Eaders stood still. I mean, the guy's incredible,

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but it's just the chemistry was not there. Nick got

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everything back on track, and in fact, you know, my

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dad thought Star Trek two, there's going to be the

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end of it, because uh, you know, it's just it

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may not continue on. And that's why he was okay

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with killing off Spock. But once they saw the film

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and it was a good film, and it was a

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successful film, then everybody thought, hey, this thing's got life

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to it. We could we could go on doing this

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for a while, and they did. For you know, after that,

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there was four more original series.

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Cast member movies.

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So Rathacon I think is so critical to the whole

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franchise and got everything back on track and and just

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you know, and I just love what Nick did with

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that that episode, and Ricardo and everybody was just on

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their game, you know what I mean.

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I mean, it was just I think it's a fabulous episode.

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That's not to take away from a lot of the

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other work that's been produced, you know, since then, with

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with the with the Next Generation crew, and and with J. J.

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Abrams iteration. You know, I love his stuff too, so

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but two is my favorite. But I mean, besides, of course,

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you know, we stad directed and was most successful with

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the original cast member. I mean, I love for I

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just watched it recently. It's a fabulous film. Also with

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a lot of dialogue from Nick Meyer.

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Coincidentally excellent, excellent, And uh, I'm going to pass the

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microphone over to you, V. I know you've been patiently

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waiting you. You've got your books and everything ready.

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Yes, Well, and I don't know, just a technical thing.

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I cannot see Adam. I see his name, but the

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little window is blank for some reason.

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I don't know why everything looks good on this.

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Okay, Well I'm blue, so you know it's something going on.

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You are blue?

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Okay, all right, so I have I was. I don't

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care if people know how old I am. I was

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three years old when Star Trek first came on TV.

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And I don't remember exactly when I saw if it

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was a rerunner, if it was when it first aired,

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But the first episode I remember is Devil in the Dark,

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and that's of course a very intense one with your dad,

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and I believe it or not, that's what, even as

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a little kid, inspired me to want to be you

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to act, and I've loved that. I've loved acting ever since.

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I've done nothing major, of course, but Star Trek gave

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me that desire, and so having given up hope that

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I'll be in something Star Trek one of these days.

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But Star Trek four was my favorite movie because it

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was just so much you know, it seemed very very dire,

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but your dad, I think put he put a lot

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of hope and joy into it, and that's what I loved.

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And also humor. The humor was great. The lines between

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Spock and Kirk were just fantastic. I also loved Three

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Men and a Baby, by the way, that's also one

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of my favorite movies. Now with your book, I just

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finished reading it for the second time. Wow that it's

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just so it's emotional, it's raw at times, and I

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just thank you for you know, putting it out there

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because there are those of us who have had similar

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issues with our parents, and I never got to reconcile

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with my dad. But it was just one of those

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things where it was what it was. But I have

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two easy questions to ask you, and then I'll ask

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a little more deeper question. One, do you still have

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the mister Toad cuff links and tie clip? No.

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Yeah, that's so kind of you to ask about that

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and to take the time to read the material.

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I really appreciate it. Uh.

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Yeah, No, they they disappeared, and I'm sorry to say

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I don't have the Mister Toad.

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I love those things, and I don't know what happened.

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I never wore them.

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They were always in my little jewelry box that I

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got from my barn, miss But they were prized possessions

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because the background on that that my father went went

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and bought them for me without you know, it was

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hard for him to kind of think of me and

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and and and you know, to buy a gift from me.

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Because you know, I talk a lot about this in

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the book. He was very distracted by his career. Family

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was not a priority to him.

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Uh.

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It was all about the work and supporting our family

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before Trek came along. And then when Trek came along,

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it was all about doing the work, which were long

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days on the set and then on the weekends and

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during the hiatus when they weren't shooting, my dad was

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all over the country performing in theater or making personal appearances.

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So it was very unusual for him to come home

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and having brought something home from a gift for me.

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And even though they were, you.

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Know, the set was really designed for a younger person

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than myself at the time. I was twelve when he

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brought them home. I just thought it was very touching

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that he was thinking about me while he was on

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the road. But unfortunately I don't they've since.

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Disappeared and stuff as a way of doing that sometimes

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when especially when you move. Also, you're a big Beatles fan.

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I got that from the book. Is that correct?

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That is correct? This is the Fab four on the

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set of Hard Day's Night. I'm a Beatle finacal.

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Oh yeah, me too. What do you have a favorite?

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I know it's hard. Do you have a favorite Beatles song?

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Song?

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Yes? Or how about top five? How about that? Is

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that easier?

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Well? No, you know, I'm look I it's really tough.

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But I love Paul McCartney because he's so versatile and

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the man is just amazing, you know. I mean, Bob

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Dylan talked about the fact that that you know, Paul

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can do these incredible ballads and then sing like Little Richard,

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you know, just pure raw rock and roll. I mean,

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he was the most versatile and of the band, and

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in the end he came up with some of the

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bigger hits. But I'm a Lenin fan, you know, you know,

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it's all about for me, it's like ticket to ride

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and I feel fine, he's Lenin tunes and help. I

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mean in my life, I'm I'm you know, Lennon is

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more I'm more akin with him than I am with Paul.

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But but again, you can't take away from the fact

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that Paul is just so versatile and just continues to.

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Make great music.

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Because my my favorite is Hey Jude, I just that's

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that's my go to song as far as but but

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as far as John's, I would think imagine I've been

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playing a lot lately because it's got a great message.

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So as far as Star Trek, well, the as you know,

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whenever anything new comes out with Star Trek, like the

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Starfleet Academy, it's always very polarizing, and it just seems

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that Starfleet Academy is getting a lot of not so

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nice criticisms and and whatnot. And then last week we

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had one of our stories where I won't mention him,

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won't mention his name, but a certain member of the

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current administration wanted to get William Shatner to take over

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Star Trek because he didn't like the diversity and inclusion

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and uh equality in it. What would if he were

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to ask you that, what would you what would you say?

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How would you reply? Because obviously he doesn't understand Star Trek.

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Well, look, uh, the important thing is that Star Trek

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has survived and still resonates people. We are in the

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sixtieth year now, coming up on six years of Star Trek.

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What is the magic formula? It's it's it's it's Roddenberry,

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Geene Roddenberry's vision of the future. And that is what

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people tell me repeatedly. It's it's positive, it's inclusive. We're

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going to figure our stuff out on this planet, you know,

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not just within this country, but on the planet. And

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not just on the planet, but we're going to partner

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up with other planets to form the United Federation of Planets.

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Uh and and you know, and in conjunction in coordination

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and cooperation go off, you know, on the journey throughout

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the universe. So it's a positive look and we and

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we need a positive look at the future. I mean,

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I think most people are very hungry for that, you know,

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that they're that it's gonna it's all gonna work out

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and it's all going to be good. I mean, the

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long arm of history is gonna is going to bend

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in our favor, uh, and that we're going to survive

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and and we're gonna do it well. So you know,

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to me, it just comes back to this a very

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simple you know, philosophy and formula. But that is what

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the legacy of Star Trek is about. That is the

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genius of Gene Roddenberry. And and that's why I think

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we continue to see these iterations. I mean what you know,

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sometimes they're they're you know there some are better than others.

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But I'm just glad to see that they're making it,

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you know. Uh, you know, I I love all the

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iterations that have come out. You know, do I love

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every episode? No?

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Do I love every episode of the original series. Absolutely not.

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There's plenty of placebo episodes in the original series that

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we could do without, you know, But the fact of

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the matter is that it's just a positive message to

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the future. That's and I want to stay positive. Most

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people I think want that and need that, and that's

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what we should be focusing.

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On, exactly. I agree. Now, going with the diversity and inclusion,

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going to the to the documentary which I watched a

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couple times for the Love of stock and George de

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Kay telling the story of how your father insisted on

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him and Michelle Nichols to be included in the animated

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series when they didn't want to put them in there,

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but also on the original series, your dad pushed for

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Nachelle to get equal pay. Did that come out of

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his growing up or what? What? What was that? It

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is so fantastic that he that he did that. I

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mean he exemplified, you know, the Star Trek ideal. But

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where did that come from?

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00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:53.759
Was well, it's hard to say.

477
00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.319
I just think my dad had a tremendous sense of

478
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.599
the importance of the collaboration with everybody.

479
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:01.680
I mean, that's what I think. It was a terrific

480
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:03.119
director as well.

481
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.599
Is that you know, he understood that the importance of

482
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.559
Star Trek is this this again Gene Runberry idea of

483
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:13.759
infinite diversity and infinite combinations.

484
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:13.960
I d I see.

485
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.240
And the fact is that, you know, really what was

486
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.039
going on in the seventies when they came up with

487
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.519
the animated series is you know, after three runs or so,

488
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:24.599
I mean, this is the problem with the Screen Actors

489
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:27.200
Guild at the time, maybe having to do with the

490
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.240
president of the Screen Actors Guild who shall remain nameless,

491
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:32.720
but they were there was a sellout to the producers.

492
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:37.160
After three runs of the show, You're done. There's no residuals.

493
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.200
No one was making any money, including Gene Roddenberry, which

494
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.920
is why he's carrying the blooper reels around, you know,

495
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:43.759
and showing.

496
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:44.079
Him to people.

497
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:46.359
And my dad was on the on the lecture circuit

498
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.440
and doing theater work and doing in search of they're

499
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.359
all looking for work. So it didn't make sense to

500
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:54.119
my dad that they were going to do this show

501
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.000
and then and then have the Shell and Jimmy Dewan

502
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.119
do all the other voices while other people are out

503
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.400
of work. That just it's just innate sense of fairness,

504
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:04.319
which is, you know, my dad had a real sense

505
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.680
of a real social conscience. I think which probably came

506
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.759
from where he grew up, which is, you know, on

507
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:14.200
the streets of Boston, from very humble beginnings, you know, and.

508
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:15.720
The struggle to survive.

509
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.400
So I think and those ten years, by the way,

510
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.599
this is what's really critical that shaped my dad from

511
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.480
nineteen fifty six when I was born. Dad came to

512
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.359
Hollywood in forty nine fifty six I'm born. He's got

513
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:30.680
a family afford to support my older sister, my mother,

514
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.960
and you know, me and himself. So it's a struggle

515
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.319
to keep things going while you do it, you know,

516
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:39.279
pursue an artistic career. And I think he was acutely

517
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:41.440
aware of that that these people are not working and

518
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.240
they need the job and they need the money and

519
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.799
they should be hired. And he felt that he had leverage,

520
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:48.680
He had some leverage, you know, and it was like,

521
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.319
he just doesn't want to be involved if they're not

522
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.720
going to be involved. So, you know, my dad's always

523
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:57.720
had that kind of social conscience about him. And as

524
00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.559
George the Kay says in my film, has said a

525
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.400
lot about about you know, and Walter said the same thing.

526
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.839
It said a lot about my dad. He really did

527
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.880
care about the people he was working with and their

528
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:08.680
will being.

529
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.359
Yeah, I won't lie. That documentary made me cry a

530
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:17.720
couple of times. But last question, at the in the

531
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:22.160
end credits, you've got Storman, which is one of my

532
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.240
favorite songs as well, because I love David Bowie. Who

533
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.720
because I couldn't find out who sang that, because.

534
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.680
That was something well the band just called Furiosa, and

535
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.799
the band Furiosa is basically my son Jonah Nemo replaced everything.

536
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.960
Okay, I was going to ask, Oh, that was fantastic,

537
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:41.279
Oh my gosh, I love that.

538
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:41.960
Yeah.

539
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.839
That came about because when we were editing the spot

540
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:47.599
doc at the beginning of twenty sixteen, I think is

541
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:48.880
when Bowie had passed away.

542
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:50.400
We were in the middle of.

543
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.960
Post production and Jonah, my son, came up to me.

544
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.759
We were going to see him play at a small

545
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.559
club out in Burbank, and he said to me, we're

546
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.079
going to be doing this song in tribute to David

547
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.079
Bowie because he had just passed. And the whole family

548
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.079
was there at this nightclub and they played the song

549
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.240
and it was it was mind boggling how good they were.

550
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.039
Yeah, and I just thought, oh my god.

551
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.720
So I said, we're recording the song this week and

552
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.000
I and I gave him five hundred bucks. He got

553
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:24.039
a studio and he plays every instrument on that you know,

554
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.880
on that record. Yeah, I mean, Shoana is multi talented

555
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:31.359
and a great producer working with him. And I just thought,

556
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.359
you know, and and the song is so you know,

557
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.039
it could be about Spock, you know, you know about

558
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.680
it just about an alien. You know, it's about an alien.

559
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:41.000
You know.

560
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.119
I just thought it made sense. We're gonna pay tribute

561
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.960
to Spock, We're gonna pay tribute to David Bowie, and

562
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.319
we're gonna we're gonna show off some of the talents

563
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.359
of my son, you know. So that's how that all

564
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:52.839
came out.

565
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.920
Well, even though it's been ten I can't believe it's

566
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:58.119
been ten years since that came out. Tell him for

567
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.240
me that I just absolutely loved it. And that made

568
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:05.319
me cry too, so because it was so beautiful. So yeah,

569
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.720
So one last thing, I found this book. I got

570
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.119
this a long time ago. This is a wonderful book

571
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.200
that your dad wrote. And this is one of my

572
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:14.359
prize possessions.

573
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.559
But he took a lot of heat for that book.

574
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:17.960
Yah.

575
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:23.079
Who Yeah, the fans, the fans were really pissed off

576
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:24.279
about the title.

577
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.119
I can't please everybody. All Right, I'm going to shut

578
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.880
up now and turn it over to my colleagues. So

579
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.920
thank you for answering my questions.

580
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.920
Thank you for your insightful questions. I appreciate that.

581
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:40.960
All right, Adam, I think it's my turn now.

582
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:41.160
Hi.

583
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.880
I'm Eric, So nice to meet you.

584
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:47.920
Well, so, I guess since we're, you know, talking about

585
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:49.599
the book, if we're working our way back in time.

586
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.279
So I also read the book, and actually both Charles

587
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.200
and myself are big fans of audio books, and so

588
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.319
it was fun to have the audio book as read

589
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.440
by the author, which is one of my favorite ways

590
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.359
to sort of take in an audio book. Can you

591
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.920
tell us just a little bit about the recording of that?

592
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.240
Did you know you wanted to do your own reading

593
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:08.799
of that or did somebody ask you to?

594
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:09.799
How did that come about?

595
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:10.119
Well?

596
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:11.640
I had an audition to do it.

597
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.200
There weren't they didn't automatically ask me. I had to

598
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:20.119
do an audition tape, uh, and then I had a

599
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.559
great guy who was producing and engineering it in Santa Monica.

600
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:25.119
You know, it's a marathon.

601
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:26.720
I mean, it's a lot of it's a lot of

602
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.640
words over several days in a recording booth, and I

603
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.119
really enjoyed doing it because you know, I just I

604
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.319
enjoyed that kind of thing, and it was it was

605
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.920
a great experience, and people seem to appreciate. I don't

606
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.200
listen to it, you know, It's like I just want

607
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.759
to move on and not hear myself. You know, I

608
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:49.640
can't stand looking at interviews of myself. But it was

609
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.279
a really good experience, and most people seem to think

610
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.119
that it was, you know, passable work.

611
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:55.279
But thank you.

612
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.960
Yeah, I absolutely absolutely so.

613
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.119
I like the you know, found the book to be

614
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:03.680
pretty raw at times, you know, you get into the

615
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:05.480
nitty gritty, which I think is one of the great

616
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.359
things about the book, the most human there. It is

617
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.920
available in audiobook and written book, and actually I have

618
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.480
a kindle version of it as well, so you know,

619
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.319
so I believe that this was kind of an amalgamation

620
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.559
of a lot of different kind of writings that you

621
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.759
had done about your relationship with your father over time,

622
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:30.119
and you sort of brought them together. And I'm I'm wondering,

623
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.880
was this book your concept? Were you the one who

624
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:35.839
brought it together, or was somebody like Hey, you know what.

625
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:36.200
You should do.

626
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:37.920
You should take these couple of things you've done and

627
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.519
sort of like bring it all together into one cohesive thing.

628
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.359
Well well, no, yeah, it was my idea.

629
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.319
I mean it started off I started to delve into

630
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.640
this a little bit about the problems in my relationship

631
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:52.279
with my dad. In My Incredibly Wonderful, Miserable Life, my

632
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.599
first book in eight you know, about being in recovery

633
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:58.519
and still trying to figure out our relationship with one another.

634
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.200
It was only it was, you know, Ina, when we

635
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.559
started to really reconcile with one another, we still had

636
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.400
a lot of problems and you know what a life

637
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.599
and recovery is like. You know that that was something

638
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:17.400
that I wanted to share. I mean, the idea we

639
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.680
in the film For the Love of Spock. In the documentary,

640
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.440
I talked a little bit about the issues that I

641
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:26.279
was having with my dad. The most human my most

642
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:29.000
recent book, does the deep dive of what happened and

643
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.680
how how we were able to reconcile and have this close,

644
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:36.039
loving relationship the last eight years really of my dad's life.

645
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.920
But the reason why, the way it came about was

646
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.599
that I was sharing this story in recovery.

647
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:43.000
I got.

648
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:44.400
I'm still in recovery.

649
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.880
I'm twenty two years sober, and I go to twelve

650
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.279
step meetings in alan On, which is for family people

651
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.160
who have a family member who's got to has an

652
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.599
alcohol or addiction problem. And my qualifier was my dad.

653
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.720
I admitted alcoholic in that inner that my mailed interview

654
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.039
with with none other than Bill Shatner. And so I

655
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.519
was sharing at those meetings and the AA meetings I

656
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.039
went to, and anonymously these people didn't know I was

657
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:11.760
Letardnie Moist.

658
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:12.559
I didn't need to know.

659
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:14.639
But when I talked about how I was able to

660
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:18.159
reconcile with my dad after these after year decades of

661
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:22.039
problems with him, up and down relationship with him, it

662
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.960
inspired people. I mean, people come up to me afterwards

663
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:27.119
after the share and they'd say, I'm going to.

664
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:28.199
Call my parent.

665
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.559
You know, you gave me some inspiration, and I think,

666
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:32.920
you know, I'm going to try to use some of

667
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:35.280
the tools for recovery and see if I can reconcile

668
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:36.960
with a parent. So that's when I started to think,

669
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.239
you know, I should just do the deep dive and

670
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.159
get into more than nitty gritty and get the book

671
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.760
out there to people. Now, it's not a tell all.

672
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.559
I don't do, you know, I'm not talking about I

673
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.480
talk about some of the tough stuff that happened, but

674
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.320
not everything. And the reason for that is that I

675
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.760
got myself a really good editor in New York City,

676
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:58.559
a woman who had been in the publishing industry for

677
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.079
a number of years and who knew nothing about Star

678
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:06.760
Trek perfect You're hired because she wasn't invested in it

679
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.880
or my dad, you know, but she was also cognizant

680
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:13.079
like I was, that this guy's got a legacy. He's

681
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.440
loved and adored by man's and fans all over the world.

682
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.119
They don't want to hear a bunch of trash talk,

683
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.000
and it's not I really, I'm trying not to be judgmental.

684
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.679
I'm honest about some of the episodes. But again, I

685
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.119
don't tell everything, and I'm very careful to say I'm

686
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:28.440
always proud of my dad.

687
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:29.960
And the fact of the matter is.

688
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:33.320
This is a guy who was desperate to survive when

689
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.559
he came to LA His priority was his career and

690
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.559
making money just to support us. It wasn't the family

691
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.599
until later on in his life, when his priorities had changed.

692
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.039
So for all those reasons, And I love writing. I'm

693
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:48.480
a writer.

694
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:49.199
I've always been.

695
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.239
I've been journaling since I was a kid, you know.

696
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.800
So I love the process of writing. I love working

697
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.880
with that editor, you know, the mantra with her, I said,

698
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.360
I'm just what she says, like, what do you need

699
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.880
me to do? It's like, help me shape this book

700
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:04.800
and just make me a better writer. That's all I

701
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:05.199
want to do.

702
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:06.239
I want to be a better writer.

703
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.079
And and she did it, you know, with a rule

704
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.840
around my knuckles, like no more. I feel like the

705
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.599
word and has to go, and the word butt has

706
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:15.920
to go.

707
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.079
You got over your book and in butt.

708
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:19.880
That's great.

709
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.559
Well, I mean a good editor does that right, makes

710
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.880
the writer so much better. That sounds like that was

711
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:27.159
a great experience. And it sounds like putting it all

712
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.679
together was maybe cathartic in some ways too, which of.

713
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.239
Course it's you know, it is as you're processing all

714
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:36.639
this material. So was making the documentary, you know, I mean,

715
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.280
you know, you're grieving for a parent. I'm grieving for

716
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.320
my dad in a way that most people don't really

717
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:43.159
get to process this stuff.

718
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:44.599
We're looking at film.

719
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.719
I'm looking at old you know, photos of him, old family,

720
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.559
you know, publicity stuff with him, his roles and other

721
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.480
other medium and you know, I mean we went through

722
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.840
the whole history of Leonard Nimoy while we were making

723
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.000
that documentary, which gave me a chance to really process

724
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:03.079
of the loss, the tremendous loss of my dad.

725
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.519
Yeah, I can imagine. I mean, it was so fresh

726
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.239
at the time. And of course we're talking, as V said,

727
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:12.000
ten it was ten years ago that you made the

728
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.960
documentary For the Love of Spock, which is a you know,

729
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.039
pretty much a retrospective of his life and gives a

730
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.599
lot of information about not only family but him individually

731
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.960
and acting and all that sort of thing.

732
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:26.199
I really liked.

733
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:30.239
At one point you draw some neat comparisons between Sarah

734
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.159
and Spock and yourself and your dad, and I thought

735
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:36.960
that was really effective because I also kind of have

736
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.280
have had a strained relationship with family members before and

737
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:44.880
kind of I get it. So it felt very relatable

738
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.280
to me to get a little personal I guess at

739
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.760
towards the end of that film, I think it's kind

740
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:55.920
of before the sort of last scene where you do

741
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.199
the interviews about the one word about your dad. But

742
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.599
right before that, there's this scene from Burning Man where

743
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.400
it looks like there was a wall of photos that

744
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.199
was sort of dedicated to your dad. That that then

745
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.840
in the documentary as they do the Burning Man thing,

746
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.960
you know, you sort of show those kind of going

747
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:18.320
up in flames. And so I'm I have my own

748
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:21.880
kind of way that I interpreted that scene and you know,

749
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.000
kind of felt it and I'm just curious why. You know,

750
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.000
where did that scene come from for you and what

751
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.480
did it mean to you? And you know, was that

752
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.199
a letting go moment or or what did it mean

753
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:34.519
for you?

754
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:41.119
Well, yeah, that all came about because at the time,

755
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.280
my daughter was dating a guy who was a Burning

756
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:50.960
Man fanati. He dragged her into the Nevada Desert, you know,

757
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:55.000
three years in a row, and they went there that year.

758
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.119
This was I guess this was the year my dad

759
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:03.079
died twenty fifteen, and U she came across that thing

760
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.360
and it blew her mind because there was that montage

761
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.679
of it was a collage of photos of my dad

762
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.679
and his life and you know, family and me. You know,

763
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.639
she saw the picture of me in there and it

764
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:18.119
just really resonated with her. And then I had another

765
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.440
friend who was there coincidentally, and he took a bunch

766
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:25.239
of pictures of that that whole collage. And then a

767
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:28.599
friend of Maddie my daughters had had taken some video

768
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.760
of of that whole you know, of the temple that

769
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:33.960
they burned down. They typically burned it at the end

770
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.639
of the of the.

771
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:36.679
A couple of weeks that they're out there.

772
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.440
I just thought it was like a great way to

773
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.039
kind of like have a funeral pyre and letting go

774
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:44.519
and a final.

775
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:45.280
Goodbye, you know.

776
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.480
I mean, I still get emotional when I see that thing,

777
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:51.599
you know that you know, everything going up in flames.

778
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.679
We were able to find a lot of that film online.

779
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:58.480
We found it through Maddie's friend, and we created some

780
00:39:58.599 --> 00:39:59.199
of that film.

781
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:00.639
Yeah.

782
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:03.400
We we got the pictures of the of the collage

783
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.400
and I got art director friend of mine put me

784
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.880
in touch with an artist and she put that collage

785
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.960
together on on some poster board and I have my carpenter, Miguel,

786
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.800
build the structure that it was on and we put

787
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.599
it together in my backyard and we burned it down.

788
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:26.719
To get the crafts I needed. Yeah, I didn't we

789
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:27.679
didn't have everything.

790
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.000
We had a lot, but we didn't have everything we

791
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.400
wanted close ups of the thing burning. There was nothing

792
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.960
that that didn't exist, that was all created.

793
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.440
I mean that's the magic of filmmaking. But I think

794
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:37.760
it's a.

795
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.960
Great moment in the movie of a real you know,

796
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:44.920
you know, just an homage to him and a final farewell.

797
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.559
You know, I just I I really I love that.

798
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:49.400
I get very emotional. A lot of people get ve

799
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:53.719
got emotional. You know, you just can't help it. You know,

800
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.320
this Leonard meant so much to so many people. You know,

801
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.000
it's just which is really which is lovely? You know.

802
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:04.039
This is the thing about about Spock and Leonard is

803
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.159
that he still resonates now, the guy.

804
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.519
I mean, we're coming up on the eleventh anniversary of.

805
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:12.000
My dad's passing, but you know, people just still love him.

806
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:13.880
And I feel the love when I go to the

807
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.440
conventions or you know, people figure out I'm related to him,

808
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:19.599
they're just a light light up, you know. And it's

809
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.719
really it's such a wonderful feeling that he has such

810
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:26.400
an This this scrawny kid from you know, from the

811
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:30.079
West end of Boston, had so much impact on people

812
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:30.920
all over the world.

813
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.360
It's just phenomenal.

814
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:34.440
Absolutely.

815
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:38.280
Well, I guess since we've talked about the past and

816
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:43.159
the present, what about your future. Do you have other

817
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.320
projects that you've got on the burners right now? Do

818
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:46.840
you have the other things you're thinking about? Do you

819
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.519
have the other things you want to do. What's the

820
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:50.880
future of Adam Nemoy look like?

821
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:53.920
Well? Yeah, I mean coincidentally, at the moment, I'm working

822
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.039
on a documentary right now about a friend of mine

823
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:02.679
who's the bass player in the music industry. M Yeah,

824
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.760
Bob gloub Bob Cloud is one of one of the

825
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.599
most successful unknown in the music is.

826
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:14.280
I didn't know you everybody, Yes, a musician. I totally

827
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:14.920
know who he is.

828
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:15.800
Do you know who he is?

829
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.519
Okay, well, of course I know who Yeah.

830
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.719
Most people don't know who he is.

831
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.159
That's the beauty of this piece for working on is

832
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:25.639
that he's uh that most people have.

833
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:26.559
No idea who Bobby is.

834
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:29.639
But he's played on you know, a dozen hit records,

835
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:33.400
and he's played with dozens and dozens of famous rock

836
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:37.000
artist you know, UH, rock and country and and h

837
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.599
R and B. And you know, he played with John

838
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.000
Lennon on the rock and Roll album UH. And he

839
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.840
played with Ringo on one of Ringo's album and he's

840
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:48.639
played with everybody. So we're making a little documentary about

841
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:52.679
about guys like Bob who have had incredible careers but

842
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:56.800
are really, you know, unheralded. You know, they're they're just unknown,

843
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:00.800
They're not they're not uncelebrated these that they should be,

844
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.599
you know, And I think that's kind of the fun

845
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:04.559
of it at the moment.

846
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.480
That's that's what That's my newest project.

847
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:08.880
I love that. Do you have a working title for

848
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:09.280
that yet?

849
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:11.599
Or I'm just I'm just the bass player.

850
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:16.039
I'm just the bass player. All right? Cool? That sounds great.

851
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:17.039
I can't wait to see it.

852
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.280
I guess last question that I will finish my round

853
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.239
of questions with is at the very end of your documentary.

854
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.760
I I've mentioned it before, but you ask a bunch

855
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:29.519
of people to sort of describe your dad in one word,

856
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.440
and and then there's this great moment where where Zachary

857
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:33.760
Quinto's like, what's your word?

858
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.559
And then you can go to credits. Don't tell us

859
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.559
what your word is? Do you have a word and

860
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:41.840
would you be willing to share it?

861
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:43.400
Yeah? The word is passion.

862
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:44.400
M h.

863
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.000
That's what Leonard was all about, you've got to be

864
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.199
passionate about the work. Otherwise it's going to be it's

865
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.880
too hard and it'll crush you without this singular passion

866
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.840
and obsession to be, you know, to work as a

867
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.960
as a performer, as an artist, as an actor. I'm

868
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.280
I mean, that's what drove my dad and kept him going.

869
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:06.000
He just has such a love of the work. And

870
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.519
that's what convinced me that this this you know, practicing

871
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.840
law thing is for the birds. I mean I was

872
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:15.079
passionate about it maybe ten percent of the time. Yeah,

873
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.360
But when I went to acting class with Jeff Corey,

874
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.280
who coincidentally was my dad's acting instructor, that's when I

875
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.719
got excited and felt the sense of passion. I was

876
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.679
with Jeff for two years and thought, this is incredible,

877
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.880
this is phenomenal. This is what I want to do,

878
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:33.039
because otherwise it's just work. Passion, that is what it's

879
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:33.559
all about.

880
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:34.000
You know.

881
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.760
I would teach these kids at the Film Academy and

882
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:41.920
they'd be like, Oh. They'd say to me stuff like, Adam,

883
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:44.519
why are you so angry? I would get so you know,

884
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.159
emphatic about stuff. They say, why are you so angry

885
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.840
all the time. It's like, I'm not angry. I'm passionate

886
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.760
that I'm trying to teach you guys about. And I

887
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.320
need you to be passionate too, because if you're not,

888
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:00.000
you don't belong in the industry. It'll crush you.

889
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:01.280
Yeah.

890
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:03.880
Absolutely, you got to love what you do. And that's

891
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:06.639
what Leonard was all about, the passion for the world.

892
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:07.320
I love it.

893
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.679
Passionate. That's such a great word. All Right, thank you

894
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:13.679
so much for letting me chat with you. Jim, who

895
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.719
is next on our list of tru experts?

896
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:20.280
Well, I think we're gonna we're gonna pass the microphone

897
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:21.639
over to child.

898
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:24.119
Oh, thank you, Jim, Thank you.

899
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:28.360
Adam picked up a few questions as I was going

900
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:29.079
through the interview.

901
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.480
One of the things they came up from the book.

902
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:36.559
You mentioned the spock ears that were in the house

903
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.480
and then one day they weren't there anymore.

904
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:42.039
Whatever happened to those years?

905
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.639
Well, there's a bunch of ears. I mean, there's years

906
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:53.679
all over the place, years that he had. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

907
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:54.639
I have I had those.

908
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:55.719
Yeah.

909
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.440
As I was saying, just ask Ben Filler, he's got

910
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.000
quite a collection of ears.

911
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.360
Uh so, my dad kept a pair.

912
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.880
Of ears from the original series and he and he

913
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.039
built his box, his black box that he put him in.

914
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:11.079
And when my dad passed.

915
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.760
Away, you know, his widow, my stepmother, Susan, gave them

916
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.199
to me and I had him here on my desk

917
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:20.920
for a couple of years, and then I thought, you

918
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:22.159
know what, I don't want these things.

919
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:23.719
It's too much responsibility.

920
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:26.639
I didn't want him to get ripped off or lose

921
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:29.960
them or get damaged, you know. Uh, you know, I

922
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.400
just I donated them about three years ago to the Smithson.

923
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:38.679
They're sitting in the Smithsonian in the Air and Space Museum. Yeah,

924
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:43.599
where they belonged, you know, under guard. Yeah, that's where

925
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.440
they are. I have other years too, from from the movies.

926
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.280
I think my dad gave me another pair. Uh yeah,

927
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:50.599
there's a lot of years out there. I mean he

928
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.960
used several on for every episode of the original series.

929
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.000
He used I think three or four different pair. They

930
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.199
just wore out after a while, you know, there to

931
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.920
foam and uh, and they don't last forever. So Fred Phillips,

932
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:08.000
who designed them and and was the makeup artist for

933
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.079
my dad on those shows, you know, would would use them.

934
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:14.079
Uh uh reapply them, and then when they were just

935
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.000
too torn up, he'd throw them away and start with

936
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:17.519
a new pair.

937
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.960
As being mentioned the I Am Not Spock book, one

938
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.639
of my books that I love is my copy and

939
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:32.960
the audio copy of I Am Spock, And I love

940
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:35.480
that he he did his own audio book for that one.

941
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.159
Did that kind of showed the passion he had.

942
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:45.239
Mm hmm, yeah, well, I Am Spock's the apology for

943
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:46.239
I Am nuts Back.

944
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:46.639
You know.

945
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:50.440
Yeah, when when he wrote I Am Knutsbock, the fans

946
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.280
were angry. They thought that he was like distancing himself

947
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.880
from the character, like I you know, I don't just

948
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.440
do Spuck. I do other things, become an actor, you know,

949
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.400
he was literally and they try to the publisher, trying

950
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:05.480
to convince them that he should change the title. But

951
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.400
sometimes Leonard, you can't. You can't change Leonard's mind about

952
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:12.199
something that he's made a decision about.

953
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:12.960
Uh.

954
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.960
You know, my dad was basically saying in that book, Look,

955
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.320
people keep confusing me was Fock. When I walk down

956
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.159
the street and they come up to me, they start

957
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:22.559
talking to me like I'm Spuck, I'm I'm not Spock

958
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.800
from Vulcan, I'm Leonard from Boston. Hello. You know it's

959
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.719
a character, you know, get a life, as Bill Schander

960
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:33.280
would say. So, Uh, the I Am Spock book is.

961
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:33.960
I think it's great.

962
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:34.400
I use it.

963
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:38.360
I quoted extensively in the in the documentary. Uh, you know,

964
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:41.480
from the audio book because it's a really good look

965
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:45.239
of the insight and and you know, my dad's perspective

966
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:49.199
on on his journey and the struggle you know, to

967
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.519
make it in Hollywood, and and uh, and his love

968
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.039
for the character. Frankly, I mean, you know, he just

969
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:58.000
I think he really you know, he just ordered a

970
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.800
huge debt of gratitude to Spark and all always Lovespock

971
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.360
and was misunderstood about ever saying that he was. He

972
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.880
was ever regretful. You know, people were you stereotyped? No,

973
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.440
Leonard did so many different roles and had so many

974
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.000
opportunities created by the success of Star Trek and Spock.

975
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.159
I don't think he ever had a moment of regret

976
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:17.519
that he ever played that character.

977
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:18.480
Right.

978
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.519
Sind Zeric brought up burning Man and loving that. I

979
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.719
also love your walk through with Star Trek Las Vegas

980
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.360
and what a way to show off the fans and

981
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.400
how much the fans are into that series. It's every

982
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:36.320
year that I get a chance to go to the convention.

983
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.639
You just see how how many costumes, how many people

984
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.639
are out there, how big Star Trek is, and along

985
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.280
with the rest of the sci fi you laugh when

986
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:46.760
you say it's a.

987
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.679
Star Treking mention, okay.

988
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:54.960
And there's a colonial lawyer from Bowser Galactica. There's somebody

989
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.440
addressed in a storm trip of uniform with a Delta

990
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:05.400
badge on. There's a doctor who character wandering around. He

991
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:08.880
did a good job, we'illly showing that. But one more

992
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.760
thing in the movie, and I think I'll throw this

993
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.559
a little bit for Uncle Jim, is how you talked

994
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:18.079
about your father's work with Star Trek two thousand.

995
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.559
And nine and showing up in that movie.

996
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.519
And Jim will talk about how his daughter was not

997
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:32.039
a Star Trek fan, and yet she asked him if

998
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.840
he could take her to that movie with a couple

999
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:39.760
of friends, and he said afterwards, they had so many

1000
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.840
questions for him, because all of a sudden they had

1001
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.039
a view a Sart Trek, and all of a sudden

1002
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:53.800
they had Star Trek they loved, And just how you

1003
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:56.199
did a good job of kind of pushing to show

1004
00:50:56.239 --> 00:51:00.119
how much work he did to help promote that movie,

1005
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:11.320
that how much he was a part of that movie.

1006
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:13.480
Well, yeah, you're cutting out here a little bit, Charles.

1007
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.559
I mean, I think what I emphasized in the film

1008
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:17.280
was that my dad was very proud of the fact

1009
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.760
that he was the sole survivor from the original pilot

1010
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:25.440
of the original series nineteen sixty four. You know, Major

1011
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.119
Barrett was there, but she was as a different character.

1012
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:30.599
And then he and then he showed up in the

1013
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.840
in the J. J. Abrams iteration. You know, he's the

1014
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.840
only original cast member who made it to that new franchise.

1015
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:39.800
So I think he was really proud of the fact

1016
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:43.119
that he, you know, the character continued right up until

1017
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:43.480
the end.

1018
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:45.920
So and and he.

1019
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.039
Loved what JJ was doing, and he had a great

1020
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.880
relationship with Zachary Quinto. So it was a very good

1021
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.920
experience in a great way for you know, apparently, when

1022
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.159
my dad told me that when he he showed up

1023
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:57.039
on the set, everybody was applauding him.

1024
00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:58.840
It was a very heavy emotional moment.

1025
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:02.519
The first time he appeared with that calf uh in

1026
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.320
JJ's movie, and uh uh. You know, it's a it's

1027
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:08.719
a you know, a huge impact. I mean, it was

1028
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:11.480
a very emotional experience for my dad.

1029
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.519
Well much appreciated they did do that and brought in

1030
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:20.239
new Star Trek more Star Trek audience. Okay, with that,

1031
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.880
I will pass it over to David and let him

1032
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:24.719
be our caboose.

1033
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.920
Thank you, Charles hi. Uh So, I want to start

1034
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:33.159
with saying welcome to our show and thank you for

1035
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:37.000
being here. Adam. I got just a couple of questions

1036
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:39.280
I wanted to ask, and then I think we're gonna

1037
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:41.199
probably wrap it up from here on out since I

1038
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:46.920
am the kabooz now so so yeah, So my first

1039
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.280
question is do you have any favorite Star Trek memory

1040
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:51.360
from behind the scenes?

1041
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:55.400
Well, yeah, a lot. I mean I was, I don't

1042
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:56.239
have any here anymore.

1043
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.199
You used to have a lift of all the uh

1044
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:03.320
the original series episodes, and I was I witnessed them filming,

1045
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:06.320
you know, at least parts of them. Uh, and that

1046
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.079
was you know, that was really those are my fond

1047
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.880
memories of that first season of being there quite a bit,

1048
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:16.960
uh you know, on stage and I was there first

1049
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.760
seen on the Man Trap and uh Squire of Gothos

1050
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.960
and Trouble with tribles and of course what little girls

1051
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:24.400
are made of.

1052
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:25.599
That's where I did my walk on.

1053
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.679
There was one other I can't remember, Oh the one

1054
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:33.280
where oh, where Spot goes blind?

1055
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:35.639
What's that called?

1056
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:42.079
Uh uh with with the the uh Medusa or what

1057
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.800
was it? What's it called? Diane? Diana Mobar was in it.

1058
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:48.280
No, no, no, it was the one with the flying blobs.

1059
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.559
It gets on his back and given the treatment and

1060
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:52.440
he goes blind.

1061
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.400
Yeah that's operation.

1062
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.000
Yeah. Yeah, I was there for that for some of

1063
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:02.480
that as well. Uh freaking love. That's my favorite. Just

1064
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:05.000
being there on the set was absolutely amazing.

1065
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:06.280
Nice.

1066
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:07.320
Cool.

1067
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:12.400
My follow up question about that is that, is there

1068
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:17.679
a story about your father? That father? It's this story

1069
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.559
about I guess it would be father.

1070
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:20.840
Yeah.

1071
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:24.239
That always makes you laugh. Is there something that you

1072
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:25.159
could share about that?

1073
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:29.880
Uh? Yeah, I get a personal chuckle out of the

1074
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.960
First thing that comes to mind is the Mind Meld

1075
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:33.559
interview with Bill Shatner.

1076
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:34.400
Yeah.

1077
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:36.239
That's great because because.

1078
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.519
Bill brings up some of the problems they had on

1079
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.280
the original series, and he's like prodding my dad to, like,

1080
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.679
you know, do the deep dive in elucidate what his

1081
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.800
problem was, and my dad just my dad just gives

1082
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:54.719
his leonard. My dad does the leonard laugh to cover

1083
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:56.639
up for it. I just love that, you know. So

1084
00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:59.880
he's non responsive, which is like the order of the

1085
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:06.800
with certain people in the political sphere. Anyway. That always

1086
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:08.880
kind of like makes me laugh a little bit, because

1087
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:10.920
you know, they had a lot of trouble on the

1088
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:13.880
original series. You know, Bill and Dad they're just like

1089
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.480
four days apart. This is why it's insane that Bill's

1090
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:20.039
going to turn ninety five, you know, in March, and

1091
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.519
my dad's been gone for eleven years. You know that's insane.

1092
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:26.840
But you know, those guys knocked heads a lot. They

1093
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:30.760
were very headstrong, and they were very competitive, and there

1094
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:32.599
were a lot of problems. You know, it was supposed

1095
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:35.840
to be Bill Show and Spock was very popular, and

1096
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.800
you know, things happened on the original series.

1097
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:40.199
And this is the thing with my dad.

1098
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:41.920
Even though I had ups and downs with my dad

1099
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:43.880
all my life, the fact is that I know where

1100
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.000
all the bodies are buried. My dad just loved to

1101
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:49.119
complain about Bill. That's why it's so shocking. I say

1102
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.280
this in my book. When Dad came to my sister

1103
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.000
and I and said and announced to us that Bill

1104
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:57.159
Shatner was his best friend. We were like, what are

1105
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.079
you talking about? You've been complaining about it for thirty years.

1106
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:02.280
What do you say?

1107
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:04.800
But the fact is they did have a you know,

1108
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.880
a close relationship for a while. Unfortunately they couldn't sustain it.

1109
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:12.000
But but but that always like, you know, there's a

1110
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.880
little bit of a it's a very amusing story to

1111
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:20.920
me that that my dad, you know, uh, we gloss

1112
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:23.880
over some of the differences between them when whenever asked.

1113
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.559
Yeah, that's really cool. I just have one more question.

1114
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:31.880
Is there a story you haven't told yet that you'd

1115
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:32.320
love to.

1116
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:38.119
Is there a story I haven't told yet that Yeah,

1117
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.480
there there is one that I would really love, but

1118
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:41.599
I really can't share it.

1119
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:48.239
But that's great to know there's.

1120
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:50.840
A there's about there's a Bill and Leonard's story. There's

1121
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.599
a couple of them actually that I would really love

1122
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:55.519
to share, but I simply can't do.

1123
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:59.840
So maybe in the Adam Nimoay memoir, you know, in

1124
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:01.000
twenty years or.

1125
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:04.000
Something to say, I'm going to start I'm going to

1126
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:07.239
Galaxy con Richmond next month and Bill's going to be there,

1127
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:09.920
so I, you know, say that you told him that

1128
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:10.800
you say, Hi.

1129
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:13.400
I love Bill.

1130
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.320
Okay, you know this, I got to make clear, and

1131
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:20.039
my dad said this himself many times. Without Bill Shatner's

1132
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:24.320
interpretation of Captain Kirk, we would not have the Spock

1133
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:26.840
Leonard's clock that we've come to know and love all

1134
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:29.039
these years. That's just a flat out fact.

1135
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:30.719
Yeah, absolutely flood out fact.

1136
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:33.960
And because of that, I love Bill and he was

1137
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:36.599
helpful to me in making my movie. I think he's

1138
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:39.639
I think he's fabulous. More power to him with these

1139
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.440
Raisin brand commercials freaking hilarious. I mean, I think the

1140
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:47.119
guy is amazing. I were so indebted to him for

1141
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:48.119
what he gave.

1142
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:49.000
I mean, look at.

1143
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.480
You know, you know, Jeff Hunter is a fabulous actor,

1144
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.920
but but we were so much better off with Bill

1145
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:57.079
Shatner's Captain Kirk.

1146
00:57:57.239 --> 00:57:59.199
That's that's you know, let's just leave it at that.

1147
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.039
Absolutely cool.

1148
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:05.320
Well, I think that's all the questions I have for you,

1149
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.679
And again, thank you for being on the show. And

1150
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.280
I think I'm your passage over to Gym.

1151
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:12.679
Well, thank you so much, David. I just want to say,

1152
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:17.079
speaking of William Shatner, my favorite movie. I try to

1153
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:20.320
squeeze this into every podcast I.

1154
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:22.639
Had to do it, didn't you.

1155
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:26.119
Yes, my all, My favorite movie is Star Trek. By

1156
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:32.000
the final I just I think that Shatner just captured

1157
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:35.719
the essence of Star Trek in that movie. It's about soul,

1158
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.079
it's about humanity, it's about friendship. It encompasses everything that

1159
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:41.840
Star Trek means to me. And I just love Star Trek.

1160
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.639
I wrote it, directed it, and takes a lot of

1161
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:48.800
flat for it, but I love the movie. So I

1162
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:51.360
just had you. You were talking about William Shatner. That

1163
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:52.320
was my segue.

1164
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:58.559
And on that note, all I can say is live

1165
00:58:58.639 --> 00:58:59.559
long in front.

1166
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:03.159
Of peace and so much.

1167
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:05.880
You guys.

1168
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.519
We went a little bit over, but we had fun.

1169
00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:11.760
So thank you so much, Adam, and have a good one.

1170
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:20.199
Mm hmm yeah, can I do That was I hope

1171
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:21.039
you guys enjoyed.

1172
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:22.480
Oh my gosh, that's.

1173
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.880
A lot of fun. Long time and amazing. Yes, I

1174
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:30.840
got to get my five job and.

1175
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:35.000
I was waiting I was waiting for it. I was

1176
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:39.480
waiting for it so well.

1177
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:41.920
Recording.

1178
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.079
Wow, that was that was fantastic.

1179
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:44.440
Wow.

1180
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:50.400
I'm just my brain is just like, yeah, it's definitely working.

1181
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.800
I do have some Starship news. I think I want

1182
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:57.159
to hold on that until next week because one of

1183
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:01.360
the stories that we have is about Cisco and I

1184
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.559
want to hold out on that other one I put

1185
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:06.559
into just because of the toy story. So I think

1186
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:09.679
we'll hold off on the Star Trek news until next

1187
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:13.719
week when we talk about episode five Sam. But we

1188
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.360
do have some Star Trek birthdays that we can go

1189
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:19.880
over for you guys. You guys game for some birthdays.

1190
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.480
Sure, we have fan shout outs to which one.

1191
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:34.800
Yeah, we don't have a fan shadow song yet, thank you,

1192
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:40.400
thank you, thank you too much? Okay, where we do

1193
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:42.639
our fan shout outs, but usually we start to show

1194
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:44.760
off with that, but we're going to kind of do

1195
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:49.719
things a little bit different today, so we do our

1196
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:51.840
fan shout outs and how you can be mentioned in

1197
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:55.239
a fan shadow is please jump over to our our

1198
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.840
Facebook page Trek Talking, and beyond into the top of

1199
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.719
the page is a big live I'm a ospar posting,

1200
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.760
Hey guys, where are you all from? Tell us where

1201
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.679
you're listening from? Lease some emojis. It catches my attention

1202
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:09.960
and if you see a heart next your name from

1203
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:12.360
yours truly, then you want to tune in because you're

1204
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:16.400
going to be featured nfan shout out. So, Eric, would

1205
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:18.440
you like to get us started with our fan shout

1206
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:19.159
outs this week?

1207
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:20.360
I would love to.

1208
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.519
We're going to spin that globe over to the UK

1209
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:25.400
and we're going to say hello this week to Steve

1210
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:30.039
Jones in Chester, England. Steve Jones, thanks for saying hello

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01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:33.679
to us and for supporting our podcast over there in England.

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01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:37.840
We really appreciate your support. Going down onder now, we'd

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01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.320
like to say hello and welcome jan Lee Graville, who's

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down there in Queensland, Australia. I have seen some really

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01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:51.960
really neat pictures of the city, of the whole area

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01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:55.639
around Queensland. It looks amazing. I would love to visit

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01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.599
there one day. Jan Lee Graville, thank you so much

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01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.199
for supporting us way down in What's that?

1219
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:04.480
Isn't that where the dude was from?

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01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:07.599
Well, he was from Australia. I do not remember if

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01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:09.119
he was from Queensland or not.

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01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.079
I feel like he was from like out in the

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01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:14.920
out in the out a little bit more and not

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01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:18.480
in a city. He was a little he was a

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01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:23.519
little more DIY. I think, so yeah, maybe maybe Chanley

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01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:26.000
knows the dude who knows? Maybe he fixes her car

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01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:31.400
or something anyway. I would also like to say hello

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this week to Jasper Nielsen, who is hailing from Denmark

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01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:39.599
and Jessper Guess what in October, I'm actually.

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Going to be in your beautiful country. I can't wait

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to see it.

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01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:46.079
I'm actually flying out of Copenhagen after two weeks doing

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01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:49.079
a bunch of stuff up in Scandinavia, so I'll be

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01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:51.880
able to check it out at least Copenhagen, thanks for

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01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.679
supporting us there. And last, but not least, on my list,

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01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:58.159
this week, we're saying hello to Astra Dea. If that's

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01:02:58.159 --> 01:02:59.840
your real name, that's pretty awesome.

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01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:01.119
And if not, it's a great moniker.

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01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:05.280
Astra hails from Berlin, Germany, where we also have a

1240
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.280
ton of support for our Tek Talking and Beyond podcast.

1241
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:13.239
Right V Yes, But I've got everybody in the USA,

1242
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:18.199
so I'm going to start out with Melody Bradley, who

1243
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:23.639
is saying hello to us from Arkansas, USA. Next, Becky

1244
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:30.599
Tree from Western Pennsylvania. Then hello to us from John

1245
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:35.079
Doherty in Des Moines, Iowa. Hey, And in your neck

1246
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:39.199
of the woods, Portland, Oregon, we have a hello to

1247
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:44.800
us from Lemia Julie Lysander saying so hello back to

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01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.960
you all. All right, Charles, you're.

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01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:51.239
Next, Thank you.

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01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:56.400
V Let's starts a warm welcome to Kirk Wells from Illinois.

1251
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:05.679
Welcome Kurt him Frank Garcia from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I hope

1252
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:11.480
you're staying, warn Frank and Kirk. Welcome to Paul Simms

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01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:16.840
from Burnhups, Michigan's interesting place.

1254
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.599
Wonder what that would be an interesting part? Where in

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01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:20.440
the Mitten you are?

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01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:29.039
And top fan Kirk Kirk p Decroste from Nebraska. Welcome Kirk,

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01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.559
and I think Eric's gonna grab the rest of Paul's.

1258
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:47.360
Charles, I think we just lost Eric.

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01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:53.599
I see him flozen on my screen. He's not going

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01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:59.679
to if you're if you're watching this video, you'll see

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01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:01.880
all kind a great pictures like there me and Eric

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01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:04.760
at Chreck Conroga a couple of years ago with my

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01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.920
daughter Janie. If you guys would like to not only

1264
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:09.880
be featured in a fan shout out, but also have

1265
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:13.159
your pictures there, just send them to us. Go to

1266
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.719
Check Talking and Beyond and shoot us your pictures and

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01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.000
they'll be right up there. David could add them to

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01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:21.920
our fan montage so that not only will your name

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01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:24.000
be right, but your picture will be featured as well.

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01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:26.000
And I think we have Eric back. Eric, are you back?

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01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.480
We do, just as I was about ready to start

1272
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:30.440
speaking the internet hiccup.

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01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:31.599
So that was pretty fun.

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01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:34.159
Yeah, But we're going to spin this globe around and

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01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:35.800
we're going to go back to Western Europe and we're

1276
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.159
going to say hello to top fan Uriel Robert Delacourt,

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01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:43.760
who is hailing from the wonderful country of Belgium. I

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01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:46.280
believe that is where the muscles from Brussels is from.

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01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:50.559
Thanks Reel Robert Delacourt for saying hello to us this week.

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01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:53.800
Also like to say hello this week to John Wilson,

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01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:57.280
who is back there in the UK, not only sending

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01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:59.800
us a beautiful Union Jack, but also sending us that

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01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.679
wonderful English flag as well with its red cross on

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01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:08.440
white background. Thanks John for supporting our podcast. Hannah Matalanian

1285
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:12.239
is saying hello to us from Helsinki, Finland, and guess what, Hannah,

1286
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.000
I'm coming to Finland too. That's right, I'll be there

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01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.159
in October as well, so I can't wait to see

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01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:21.360
what your country is like and comparing contrasted to Denmark,

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01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:23.599
I will be judgmental, no I'm won't.

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01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:27.880
And last, but not least, I'd like to say hello this.

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01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:32.320
Week to top fan Mark Moore, who is from Pool, England,

1292
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:36.920
a place that sounds very very cool, very cool in Pool.

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01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:41.159
Thank you, Mark, Jim take this microphone away from me

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01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:42.599
quick before I do anything else.

1295
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:46.239
Well, maybe when you're there you can look up some

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01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:48.199
coffee fans and say hello.

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01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:49.719
There we go.

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I've got a couple of my listen people I want

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01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.480
to say thank you too. First of all, we want

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01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:59.519
to say thank you to Robin Brownholt, who's listening to

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01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:03.480
us and Western Massachusetts. Thank you for having so much.

1302
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:06.559
We really appreciate your support. We also want to say

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01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:09.599
hello and thank you to Heather Batty, who says she's

1304
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:14.039
originally from Iowa but now in South Dakota. Thank you

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01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:16.719
so much, Heather. And last on my list, we want

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01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:19.000
to say hello and thank you to Grenda Taylor, who's

1307
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:23.360
listening to us in Wyoming. Believe that's where the Devil's

1308
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:28.719
Tower is from Close Encounters, Right, I think that's in Wyoming. Prahymps.

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01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.320
Okay sounds great. Well, guys, that wraps up. We're going

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01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:37.760
to skip our fan ratings. Okay, there we go. That

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01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.559
wraps up our fans shout outs once again, if you'd

1312
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:42.679
like to be teach your head over Chuck Cocking and beyond,

1313
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.440
drop us at a line, look for heart and you'll

1314
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:47.920
be teacher. All right, guys. So now it's time for

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01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:53.280
our starts for birthdays, which means this, which means this,

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01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.000
come on, mister Gremlin.

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01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:56.079
Which means.

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01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:16.880
That was not a Klemon song no more. If you're right,

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01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:19.840
that wasn't, but we like it anyways. All right, guys,

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01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:21.760
this is a part of show where we have our

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01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:25.000
sci fi birthdays and we always start off with sadly enough,

1322
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:29.039
remember those members who aren't longer with us that return

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01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:29.479
to a.

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01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:30.960
Yeah, Jim.

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01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:34.000
And this week we are remembering nine members of our

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01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:36.800
Star Trek community who have gone before us, several of

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01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:39.239
which were not in Star Trek because we're going beyond.

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01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:43.600
The first is mister Clarence Buster Crabb, the second. He

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01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:47.560
was an American two time Olympic swimmer and film and

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01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:51.760
television actor Wow talk about Triple Threat. He starred in

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01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:54.600
a variety of films and movie serials released between nineteen

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01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:58.159
thirty three and the nineteen fifties, portraying the top three

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01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:03.000
syndicated comic strip heroes the nineteen thirties Tarzan, Flash Gordon,

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01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:06.279
and Buck Rogers. He started in the nineteen thirty nine

1335
01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:08.800
Buck Rogers serial and had a guest spot on the

1336
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:13.720
nineteen seventy nine television series Wow. That guy got around

1337
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:17.000
and look at that, I mean, strong jaw, that Roman

1338
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:19.239
knows forget about it. I mean, I'm surprised he wasn't

1339
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:22.039
cast in more things. But Clarence Buster Crab, we do

1340
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:23.840
miss you. We lost you all the way back in

1341
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:28.359
nineteen eighty three. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday as

1342
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:31.920
well to Miguel Ferrer, the American actor who played the

1343
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:36.119
executive officer of the USS Excelsior in Star Trek three

1344
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:39.159
The Search for Spock. Ferrer is known for his role

1345
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:42.720
as Bob Morton in the nineteen eighty seven film RoboCop,

1346
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:44.960
which I think is where I know him from, and

1347
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:49.880
for playing the FBI agent Albert Rosenfield on the television

1348
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.760
series Twin Peaks. He also did some voice acting along

1349
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:58.079
the way, including voicing the villain the villain hun Leader

1350
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:03.319
Sean Yu in Disney's nineteen ninety eight animated film Mulan

1351
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:04.800
and I Told That to my kid today and she

1352
01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:09.479
was like cool. So you know, one teenager thinks that's cool.

1353
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:13.319
Happy birthday as well too.

1354
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:19.079
Daniel Patrick macnee the British American film and television actor who,

1355
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:22.159
of course on Battlestar Galactica, performed the voice of the

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01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:27.119
Imperatus leader and its successor in Saga of a Star World,

1357
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:29.840
and was also the narrator heard in the opening credits.

1358
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:33.199
In War of the Gods. He played the character of

1359
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:37.159
Count Ibliss. This guy's got a look too, doesn't he. Man,

1360
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:38.439
You wouldn't want to be at the other end of

1361
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:42.600
a staring contest with him. Daniel Patrick Macney lost back

1362
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:46.359
in twenty fifteen. Thank you for your sci fi contributions.

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01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:50.560
We do miss you. Happy birthday as well to Cecily Adams,

1364
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:54.800
the actress and casting director who played Ishka in four

1365
01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:57.960
episodes of Deep Space nine. She also did a cameo

1366
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.800
as a holographic patron in vic Lounge. In the finale

1367
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:05.359
What You Leave Behind, she took over that role of

1368
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:11.279
Ishka the Clothes for Angie Right, the Woman from Andrea Martin,

1369
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:15.479
and although she played Armand Shimmerman and Max Grodenchik's mother

1370
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:18.840
on the series, she was actually almost ten years younger

1371
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:21.920
than them, so that's kind of funny. But in addition

1372
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:24.600
to acting, she was actually primarily a casting director. She

1373
01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:27.960
served in this capacity for the television sitcoms Third Rock

1374
01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:30.720
in the Sun and That seventies Show, as well as

1375
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.000
films like The Forgotten One from nineteen ninety one Homeroom

1376
01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:36.760
from two thousand and two. She also served as casting

1377
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.239
assistant on who framed Roger Rabbit. Of course, a little

1378
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:44.000
crossover there with that whole Christopher Lloyd Star Trek three situation.

1379
01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:47.920
Cecily Adams, Happy birthday to you. You were lost way

1380
01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:51.079
too young. Died from cancer at only forty six years

1381
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:53.920
old back in two thousand and four. Happy birthday to you.

1382
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.800
Happy birthday to Elizabeth Hoffman, the actress who played the

1383
01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:02.319
role of Bavanni in the Star Trek Next Generation third

1384
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:03.720
season episode The Price.

1385
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:06.319
What's the name of that race.

1386
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:09.359
Again that I'm forgetting now that we've got on strange

1387
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:12.159
New worlds with the thing in the mouth thing? What's

1388
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:17.239
her race called? I can't remember? Anyway. She was born

1389
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:22.640
Little Known in Corvallis, Oregon, and she, of course portrayed

1390
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:25.439
Miss Mason in three episodes of Little House on the

1391
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:28.319
Prairie from nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty one. She also

1392
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:31.960
starred as b Read in one hundred and twenty seven

1393
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:36.039
episodes of Sisters from the early nineties. But I also

1394
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:40.279
know her from her portrayal of Catherine Langford in two

1395
01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:43.640
episodes of Stargate SG One from the late nineties. So

1396
01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:48.199
happy birthday to Barzan that's the that's I just remember

1397
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:51.840
the name of the race. Thank you, Elizabeth Hossman for

1398
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:55.760
Hoffman for being our first Barzam. Happy birthday as well

1399
01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:58.600
to Michael Strong, the actor who appeared as doctor Roger

1400
01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:01.840
Corby the original in the original series first season episode

1401
01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:04.359
What Are Little Girls Made Of? But he's probably best

1402
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:07.560
known for his supporting role as Brigadier General Hobart Carver

1403
01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:12.840
in the Academy Award winning nineteen seventy film Patton. He

1404
01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:14.960
was a regular on the long running series The Edge

1405
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:18.119
of Night also in the late fifties, and then appeared

1406
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:20.000
in a whole bunch of television series from back in

1407
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:21.960
that day. You can imagine we lost him back in

1408
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:24.800
nineteen eighty, so he was very popular in the sixties

1409
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.560
and seventies. Michael Strong lost back in nineteen eighty at

1410
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:32.000
sixty two years old. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday

1411
01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:36.600
as well to Gene Lyons. That's right, He's was in

1412
01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:41.840
a Taste of Armageddon as Robert Fox. He was a

1413
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:46.960
professional guest star who appeared in almost seventy television spots

1414
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:51.239
beginning in nineteen fifty, including sixty six episodes as Commissioner

1415
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:56.159
Dennis Randall on the television show Ironside. I haven't seen

1416
01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:58.039
that one, but apparently it was very popular. But I

1417
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:00.359
of course did see him on The Twilight its own

1418
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.720
as well. Happy birthday to gene Lyons. Happy birthday to

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01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:08.079
Barry Ingham, who played du Nillo O'Dell in the Next

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01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:10.880
Generation second season episode Up the Long Ladder.

1421
01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:15.600
Ingham was one of those who was originally considered for

1422
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:19.560
the role of Jean lu Picard. Can you imagine that

1423
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:20.960
instead he was given the.

1424
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:27.159
Problematic role of a Irish drunk, right, It's still excuse

1425
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:29.479
my personal indulgence.

1426
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:29.800
Though.

1427
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:33.920
Ingham also played the character Paris in the nineteen sixty

1428
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:37.359
five Doctor Whose story The Myth Makers, therefore making him

1429
01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:40.079
one of the very small number of actors who have

1430
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.359
appeared in both Star Trek and Doctor Who. He also

1431
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:47.760
played Adelen in the nineteen sixty five Peter Cushing Dalek

1432
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:52.159
film Doctor Who and The Daleks. So Barry Ingham, thanks

1433
01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:55.239
for being a crossover performer in those two franchises, and

1434
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:58.359
happy birthday to you. And last, but not least, we

1435
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:02.560
would like to offer our happy birthday wishes to perhaps

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01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:05.960
one of the best composers of all time. Gerald Jerry

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01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:09.960
King Goldsmith was a film and television composer and conductor

1438
01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:12.840
who wrote the musical scores for five Star Trek movies

1439
01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:16.239
and the main title themes for two Star Trek spin

1440
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.880
off series and You Want to Talk About accolades Man.

1441
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:24.079
He was nominated for eighteen Academy Awards, winning one, and

1442
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:27.239
also won five Emmy Awards. He was also nominated for

1443
01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:30.720
the nineteen eighty Saturn Award for Best Music for the

1444
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:36.760
Motion Picture. Goldsmith was actually Gene Roddenberry's original choice to

1445
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:40.239
compose the music for nineteen sixty five's The Cage, which

1446
01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:44.000
would have included the show's theme music, but Goldsmith unfortunately

1447
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.560
had to decline at the time because he was committed

1448
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:50.079
to other projects, and he recommended Alexander Courage, who of

1449
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:52.680
course wrote the theme that we All Know and Love

1450
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:57.159
in nineteen seventy nine, Roddenberry offered Goldsmith Star Trek the

1451
01:15:57.199 --> 01:16:00.319
motion picture, and the composer leaped at the opportunity. Here,

1452
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:04.720
Goldsmith was tasked with reinventing a franchise and creating a

1453
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:08.960
brand new theme. Goldsmith himself remarked it was the toughest

1454
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:13.560
thing that he ever wrote, and it remains a remarkable achievement.

1455
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:16.319
I don't disagree that theme, which of course then became

1456
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:20.000
the next generation theme, is absolutely iconic and the number

1457
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.560
one thing that I associate with Star Trek when I

1458
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:26.199
hear music. Jim, he scored Star Trek five.

1459
01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:27.000
You're welcome.

1460
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:30.399
Yes.

1461
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:35.319
He also, as I said, wrote that DS nine theme,

1462
01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:38.399
who I think we all really really like. He also

1463
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:43.159
wrote the Voyager theme, which I also really like, later

1464
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:47.880
composed of music for First Contact and Insurrection, and then,

1465
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:49.720
I mean, this guy is all over the place. So

1466
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:52.479
it's hard to say how much influence this guy's had

1467
01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:54.640
on the franchise, but we will just say thank you

1468
01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:57.960
so so much for your contributions. Jerry Goldsmith, not only

1469
01:16:58.000 --> 01:16:59.840
do Star Trek, but to all the other things that

1470
01:16:59.880 --> 01:17:02.680
you did while you were with us. You're truly a

1471
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:07.079
titan among composers and we have missed you now for

1472
01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:08.000
twenty two years.

1473
01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:11.680
Hard to believe. So that does it for our remembrances.

1474
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:14.359
So yeah, that took a little bit, but it was

1475
01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:16.479
worth it. So I'm going to pass this flaming birthday

1476
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:19.119
candle on to the next person.

1477
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:25.720
Who's me maybe, Yes. Fun fact about Miguel Ferrer. His

1478
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:30.960
mother was Rosemary Clooney and which hopefully we all know

1479
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:36.600
who she was. And his cousin is George Clooney. If

1480
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:38.880
you don't know who he is, you better check your pulse.

1481
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:44.520
So just fun little bit there. Well, let's see. My

1482
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:48.319
first shout out for a happy birthday is to Deborah

1483
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:53.520
and Wall. She played Jessica Hamby in the HBO series

1484
01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:57.359
True Blood, which earned her a nomination for a Screen

1485
01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:02.399
Actors Guild Award. She portrayed Karen Page in four television

1486
01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:08.079
series in the of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, including Daredevil

1487
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:13.039
and Daredevil Born Again. Next to Happy birtha goes out

1488
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:18.640
to Megan Gallagher. She played Mariel in DS nine second

1489
01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:25.039
season episode Invasive Procedures, Garland in the four season episode

1490
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:29.560
Little Green Men One of my Favorites, and Jaren in

1491
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:35.159
Voyager seventh season episode body and soul. And then, last,

1492
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:38.239
but not least, I'm gonna send a very happy birthday

1493
01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:42.520
to Ethan Phillips, best known, of course to Star Trek

1494
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:48.439
fans for playing Neelix on Voyager. No matter what anybody else,

1495
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:49.760
I know, right.

1496
01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:53.520
Yes, Nelix is a ray of sunshine on that show.

1497
01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:57.279
He is, Yes he is, Yes he is. He also

1498
01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:01.720
played Ferrick on TNG Menaja Toy, which I just watched today,

1499
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:07.640
and Ulis on Enterprise Acquisition. He also made an uncredited

1500
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:12.319
cameo as a holographic matre d in Star Trek First Contact.

1501
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:16.359
He was also in a I think it was late

1502
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:22.439
seventies early eighties season or television series Benson, who also

1503
01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:28.359
starred Renee Aberjeonois and they were always butting heads and

1504
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:33.760
that so they're set Star Trek connection. All right, who

1505
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:38.840
wants to do take over Paul's birthday wishes?

1506
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:41.960
That's mine on to b.

1507
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:43.319
The Ron's welcomes.

1508
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:53.680
Yep, all right, Happy birthday to James Spader from Boston, Massachusetts.

1509
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:57.800
He is known often for betraying centric and morally and

1510
01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:01.479
you against characters. One of his best roles have been

1511
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.279
in the films Pretty in Pink Wall Street and Sex

1512
01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:10.399
Lives and Videotapes, and the television series Boston Legal and Blacklist.

1513
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:16.600
We are celebrating him as playing doctor Daniel Jackson and Stargate.

1514
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:21.000
He also played the villainous robot Ultron and Adventures Age

1515
01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:28.319
of Ultron, Happy Birthday and Maria Ann Hill. Actressor played

1516
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:32.960
Helen Noel in ts's first season episode Dagger of the

1517
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:36.359
Mind and So You Can Look at the Pictures. She

1518
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:39.680
was in several different other series, including some work in Batman,

1519
01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:45.439
Happy Birthday to Alice Eve. Actressor played Carol Marcus at

1520
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.119
Star Trek Into Darkness.

1521
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:54.600
She also recorded the audio book of the film Last

1522
01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:56.640
on My List, Happy Birthday to Laura.

1523
01:20:56.680 --> 01:21:01.479
Elizabeth Dern is an American actress who play and portrayed

1524
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:09.079
Vice Admiral Amelia hold Poldo in st Star Wars episode eight,

1525
01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:13.199
The Last Jedi. She achieved international recognition for her role

1526
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:18.359
as a La Sadlery and Steven Spielberg's adventure Adventure Found

1527
01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:25.000
Jurassic Park and I will pass this flaming candle that's

1528
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:28.000
almost to a numb over to gym.

1529
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:35.079
Absolutely, thank you so much. To I only have two things,

1530
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:38.439
well actually three, because I'm gonna throw one in that

1531
01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:42.319
I didn't have time to get a picture of to

1532
01:21:42.840 --> 01:21:44.560
David because it was today.

1533
01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:46.920
So first of all, we want to start off by

1534
01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:50.880
saying happy birthday to Julie Warner, the actors who portrayed

1535
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:54.960
Christy Henshaw on the TNG third season episodes Booby Trapped

1536
01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:59.640
and Transfigurations. I believe that's one of Jordie's only girlfriends

1537
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.520
that we ever saw him with on the show, other

1538
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:05.720
than the holographic Leah Broms.

1539
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:07.399
You know what, I will say?

1540
01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:10.880
She shows up in some novels later on though, too,

1541
01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:13.399
so there are more stories with Julie Warner out there.

1542
01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:16.039
If any of y'all love Julie Warner.

1543
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:20.840
Him, what was she? Did she show up on Lower

1544
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:22.680
Decks or was that Leah Brons No.

1545
01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:24.680
That was le Broms that was on LORDNX.

1546
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:29.239
Yeah, okay. These two episodes were among her earliest work

1547
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:33.640
as a professional actress. She's best known as Danny lift

1548
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:37.119
In on Family Law, Megan O'Hare on Nip and Tuck,

1549
01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:42.000
and Ulu in Doc Hollywood. Who can forget her entrance

1550
01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:46.000
into Doc Hollywood where Michael J. Fox is pulling up

1551
01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:48.399
in his car and his naked woman walks out of

1552
01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:50.000
the lake. That was Julie Warner.

1553
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:53.479
Okay, Julie Warner.

1554
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:56.079
H this one I'm going to throw in. I don't

1555
01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:58.399
have a picture for him, but I'm going to say

1556
01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:07.159
happy birthday and for the original Gorn himself. And uh,

1557
01:23:07.319 --> 01:23:09.760
I was lucky enough. Well I wasn't because I couldn't

1558
01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:14.119
go because I had COVID. But Charles was at Star

1559
01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:19.680
Trek Las Vegas representing Trek Talking and Beyond. And our

1560
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:22.960
booth was right next to the one and only Bobby Cox.

1561
01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:27.800
And who is Bobby Cox? Who did he played Child? Oh?

1562
01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:29.359
He was one of the actors who was.

1563
01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:35.640
The Gorn of course, Yeah, the Gorn in arena and

1564
01:23:36.119 --> 01:23:39.079
Child's got me a full head of the Gorn side

1565
01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:39.840
by himself.

1566
01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:44.000
Thank you so much, Child, and happy birthday to Bobby Cox.

1567
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:48.479
Now back to our regular schedule programming. We started off

1568
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:55.279
with a musical. Uh, you know, genius, and we're gonna

1569
01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:58.239
end with another one and we can debate who was

1570
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:00.880
more of a genius, but will save that front of

1571
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:04.840
the show. We want to stay. Happy birthday to go one,

1572
01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:10.640
the only, the incredible John Williams, the father of Star Wars.

1573
01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:15.439
But wait, there's more. He also wrote at Classic Music

1574
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:17.960
for Jaws. I'll tell you what, Sit on the beach

1575
01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:24.000
and play that song and watch the people. That song

1576
01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:28.079
has such an impact on people. He also wrote Harry

1577
01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:34.800
Patter A Superman, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, Close Encounters. I mean,

1578
01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:38.840
any block question movie that you grew up watching in

1579
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.880
the seventies, Uh, he probably was involved with it. This

1580
01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:47.600
man is a musical genius and I can't say enough

1581
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:51.039
about him. I mean, he's just has his finger on

1582
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.840
the pulse of Phantom and he knows how to write

1583
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:57.359
a song. You knows how to compose music that sucks

1584
01:24:57.399 --> 01:24:59.960
you right into the moment. And every time you hear

1585
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.319
the song that he wrote, you will think of the series.

1586
01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:08.119
He's brilliant. Now is he as brilliant as Jerry Goldsmith,

1587
01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:11.560
who actually wrote the music the Stars the Final fronts here?

1588
01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:17.239
I think that's up for debate, but he's brilliant. Nonetheless,

1589
01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:22.960
Happy birthday, John Williams. Unless anybody has some memories that

1590
01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:24.399
they would like to share about John.

1591
01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:28.079
Sorry, I was just going to say. What's amazing to

1592
01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:30.680
me is that John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith were born

1593
01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:35.199
two days apart and three years apart, so that period

1594
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:37.720
of time from nineteen twenty nine to nineteen thirty two.

1595
01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:39.800
There's a lot of talent coming out of there. And

1596
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:43.880
I actually got a chance to see John Williams live

1597
01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:48.079
once when he was conducting the La Philharmonic in the

1598
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:52.439
Disney Concert Hall there, and it was it was transcendental.

1599
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:56.000
I don't remember off offhand what they were playing, but

1600
01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:57.640
I'm pretty sure it was something that I would have

1601
01:25:57.680 --> 01:26:01.239
really been into, like Beethoven or something. And and just

1602
01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:03.079
to see him up on the podium there swinging his

1603
01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:05.720
baton live was was a really special moment for me.

1604
01:26:07.479 --> 01:26:10.640
Yeah, he was quite the guy. All Right, guys, well

1605
01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:14.560
guess what next week? I don't want to go any

1606
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:16.279
further with the show because next week we're going to

1607
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:19.600
talk about Sam, which was episode five of Started Academy

1608
01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:23.079
from the last week. I've got a story pertaining to that,

1609
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:25.359
but I want to save it. We also have a

1610
01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:27.920
story about some new Star Trek toys coming out. I

1611
01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:30.960
want to save that for Paul. So I think we're

1612
01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:32.640
going to end it here a little bit early, but

1613
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:35.399
that's okay, you know. So next week we're going to

1614
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:39.399
talk about Sam. We're not going to do two episodes

1615
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:42.119
because I feel that Starkley Academy deserves a full hour,

1616
01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:46.239
you know, would you guys agree, Yes, yeah, I think

1617
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:50.600
so so tonight's episode, which was excellent. By the way,

1618
01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:55.359
we'll talk about the following week, so stay tuned to that.

1619
01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:57.560
I want to take an opportunity to say thank you

1620
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:00.640
so much to Adam and Mooy. It took a while

1621
01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:02.920
to work that out and make that happen, but I'm

1622
01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:04.840
so glad that we were able to do. He was

1623
01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:08.520
brilliant talk. He was he was a lot of fun,

1624
01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:11.159
and I got to say thank you so much for

1625
01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:14.039
taking time out of your busy schedule the Shrek Talk

1626
01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:16.279
with us. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much

1627
01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:18.960
for Adam me more, and of course thank you so

1628
01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:21.920
much to Eric for hanging out and correct talking with

1629
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:22.279
us to night.

1630
01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:25.359
Thank you Eric, absolutely, that was a very fun show.

1631
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:28.760
And thank you so much to David for hanging out

1632
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:31.199
with us and Chrek talking. Thank you so much to you, David.

1633
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:37.600
And thank you so much to Child for hanging out

1634
01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:38.159
with us as well.

1635
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:41.079
Thank you Child, Oh, thank you always fun.

1636
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:45.880
And of course thank you t V for bringing Being

1637
01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:48.560
in the Blue Light in the Night. Thank you so much.

1638
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:58.920
I'm I'm your blessed, I'm blessed, I'm I love it.

1639
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:04.159
Oh my god, I remember. It's like such a childhood

1640
01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:06.000
thing in green in my head, the blue light in

1641
01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:07.279
the middle of kmart.

1642
01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:10.760
Just like, oh my god, that's so funny.

1643
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:16.359
Yeah, your blue comes off really easily already.

1644
01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:19.239
I can't, Jim. One of these days you're going to

1645
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:21.079
have to tell that. I know.

1646
01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:26.159
Yeah, well, I know, paint on my face, you know.

1647
01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:27.920
Yeah, we got.

1648
01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:29.680
A good story for you, folks, one of these days.

1649
01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:35.560
No one actually hasn't told before. Wait, don't tell you,

1650
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:37.199
don't you. Wait, wait till you can tell the whole

1651
01:28:37.199 --> 01:28:40.520
story on the air, Jim. We don't want to like reveal.

1652
01:28:40.199 --> 01:28:40.960
A little time.

1653
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:49.520
No no, no, all right, anyways, the hosts, uncle Jim,

1654
01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:53.359
please and be good to each other.

1655
01:28:55.399 --> 01:28:58.439
Frequencies close, Thank you so much, guys.

1656
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:01.520
Level on the prosper.

1657
01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:05.560
And with that we're gonna roll.

1658
01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:11.880
On our Oh yeah nice.

1659
01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:15.880
Not there.

1660
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:55.560
That a way hyah we

1661
01:29:57.560 --> 01:29:59.199
Yep, I put that in there.