Feb. 7, 2026

Episode 671- Starfleet Academy "Vox in Excelso" Discussion

Episode 671- Starfleet Academy "Vox in Excelso" Discussion
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In this episode of Trek Talkin' and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the hosts delve into the latest episode of Starfleet Academy, titled 'Vox in Excelsis.' They explore themes of identity, honor, and the importance of public speaking through the character of Jay-Den, a Klingon cadet. The discussion includes fan interactions, character development, and the significance of mentorship and friendship. The episode is praised for its depth and relevance to contemporary issues, culminating in a strong community response from fans. In this episode, the hosts delve into the themes of character growth and the evolution of Federation ideals in Star Trek, particularly focusing on the emotional connections and diversity represented in the series. They discuss the cultural reflections within the narrative, the reception of the show, and the significance of its characters. The conversation also touches on recent news related to Star Trek, including casting updates and the show's direction. Let's see whats out there....
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Well, good evening. Trekky's and Trekors are on the globe.

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It's Thursday, February fifth, twenty twenty six. Welcome to episode

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six and seventy one of Trek Talking and Beyond. I'm

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your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast.

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We have a really fun show planning for you guys tonight,

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as we always do, but before we get started, I

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want to go around and introduce my awesome truk experts.

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We're going to start off with Eric. Eric is out

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in Portland. How are you doing tonight? Eric?

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I am doing really well as you can see. I'm

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live from the debate room at Starfleet Academy, where you know,

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people are always talking about something.

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Important cool, and we also have with us to be

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doing all right.

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I'm floating in the galaxy as I always am, just

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you know, brought the stars. Glad to be here.

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Mm Hmmland, How you doing to doing okay?

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Man?

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I've been reading the tea leaves for the direction of

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the Cosmos, and I think we're pointing in a good direction.

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So I'm liking what I'm seeing. It's been trending upward.

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So there you have it. So I'm feeling pretty good.

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That's a good friend to be in. We want to

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say welcome back to David. He's also.

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I'm doing pretty good, doing pretty good.

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No molder cheese, No that.

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Everything back to normal.

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I hope God good. The last but not least, we

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have child Las Vegas.

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I'm going all right, kicked back on the Enterprise Bridge

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for now. But nobody's sitting in the Nobody sitting the

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command seats debating issues.

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No, I'm just I'm just hanging out in the cap

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wonderful culture right here.

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Three minutes in. That's three minutes in. Okay, before you

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mentioned it awesome in your record. Yeah, that's fantastic.

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Oh yeah, So tonight we're going to be talking about

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last week's episode was started Academy, which was the episode

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four Box and Excelso we're going to be talking about

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that white Wow. That's the fact that I want to say.

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Last week, Abrielle was canceled the podcast, but we talks

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to reschedule it for a Monday or a Tuesday at

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eight thirty pm Eastern time. I will let you guys

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know as soon as we come to a date for that.

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But don't worry because Adam Nimoy is still scheduled to

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be with us on the twelfth, so that all hasn't

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been canceled as of yet, so that will be enough

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for sure. We also have a usual fans shout out,

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and that's where we think it's just like you, we're

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listening to our podcast around the world. We also have

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our fan reactions and episode score for this week's episode,

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which Eric is gonna be fine enough to deliver for us.

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And what actor do you share a birthday with? Tonight?

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Find out on our side by Birthdays, and we're going

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to wrap up the show with what's going on around

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the Star Trek universe with an interesting segment called Shots

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About to Get Real and Starfleet Academy replaces Majel Barrett

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with who. So that's what's going on for tonight's show, guys,

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And without any further ado, I think we're gonna dive

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right in with our fan sholes and for them returned

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to Eric.

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All right, Jim. We always like to thank our fans

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far and wide across the innerwebs, which allows us to

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interact with people from every single continent out there, except

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we still haven't heard from Antarctica. Com on Slackers but

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we would love to start out by saying welcome this

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week to Austin Nichols, who's saying hello to us from Ukraine.

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Ah Man, Austin, you guys are some of the toughest,

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most amazing people that I can think of on the

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planet right now. So thank you so much for understanding

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and rocking those Star Trek ideals. We appreciate you supporting

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our podcast and we certainly appreciate all the things that

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you guys are doing there. Austin Nichols, thank you so

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much for saying hello to us this week. I'd like

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to say hello this week to Phil Bones Kingston. Really

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Phil saying hello to us from the UK, proudly flying

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that Union Jack and Phil, you know what, even if

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Bones isn't your real middle name, I think that we

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claim the names that define us the best. And I

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already have a picture of who you are in my

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head just by you taking that Moniker. So Phil Kingston,

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Phil Bones Kingston from the UK, thanks so much for

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saying hello to us this week. We really appreciate your support.

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Saying hello this week as well to Mark Adams, who

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hails from Scotland flying that beautiful blue and white flag

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Mark Adams. Always appreciate your support and sir, you have

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so many good things going over there. I cannot wait

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to visit your part of the world. Never been there,

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but it's in plans. It's in plans right now. Thanks Mark. Last,

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but not least, I am staying right in that same

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area of the world in the British Isles. Kevin William

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Hewitt hails from bear Regis in Dorset to England. Kevin

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William Hewitt, thank you for saying hello to us this

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weekend supporting our podcast V There's so much support in

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the UK. Do we have any people in the United States, Yes.

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Of course we do. Start off with Jonathan James, who

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is saying hello to us from Baltimore, Maryland, not too

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far from me. Next, we have a hello from Elohimi

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Massy from Chicago, so thank you for that. Then Dina

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m Renti Cruz is saying hello to us from Cawi,

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Hawaii with several emojis. Looks like a surfer. I'm not

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quite sure what the second one is, but we've got

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some tropical island and a little beach umbrella there, so

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thank you for that. And last, but definitely not least,

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Shane Waldsmith is saying hello to us from Nashville, Tennessee,

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sixty eight years old. Have been a trecky since the beginning,

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so thank you for that, Shane. All right now I

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am sending this on to Charles.

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Oh, thank you. V Let's start with the Warren. Welcome

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to Hoyt Aiden from Oregon. Wonder if our Oregon crew

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knows Hoyt. Welcome Doug Bates from East Texas. Welcome Mike

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Meehan from Wammee, Ohio. It gives us a United States

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flag fly in, and welcome Keith Jordan from Georgia. Welcome

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Keith and Mike, Doug and Hoyt Paul, who's on your

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international list?

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Thank you, Charles.

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Let's leave the old USA for a bit, sall we

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and head over to Hamilton, New Zealand, where our pal

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Peter Stringer is saying hello, sending us a how do

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he do from the Southern Hemisphere. Great to hear from you, Peter.

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Over in the UK in Essex and Harlow. Our pal

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Janet Cooper is a fan of trek Talking and this

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amazing franchise where we find ourselves Just up the road

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from Janet, Eddie McDonough is in Ireland, a flag proudly

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flying there. A wonderful part of the universe there, Eddie,

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look forward to visiting there whenever I can. And then

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we have Damon Sharp, not Damon as in a FOREENGI Damon.

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Let's speak clear. This is Damon's first name. Okay, Damon

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Sharp is not going to like come over there and

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abscond with your latinum. Damon Sharp is a person of

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a great character, and it confesses that he's lived in

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Japan for the last twelve years. Does not say where

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he lived before, so it sounds like we need to

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keep that on the QT. Damon, your secret is say

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with us and finding for me. It is a very

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celestial first name. Estra Astra Dah is saying hello to

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us from Berlin, Germany. I love that name, Astra. It

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sounds like something from Forbidden Planet Astra. I think that's

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a very cool moniker you've got for yourself. There, prove

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me once again that enthusiasm for an enlightened future and

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this magical Star Trek.

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Franchise is something we all share across the entire.

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Spherical globe where we reside. Isn't that true?

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Uncle Jim absolutely, Paul, Thank you so much. Well, we

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want saying thank you to Robbie by Daddy who's listening

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to us in New York, New York. Thank you, Ronnie.

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We also want to say thank you to Patricia Dasso,

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who says that she's from Continuum and sends us a Livelong,

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a prosper a smiley face, a cat, an alien, and

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two explanation points in red and that says just kidding

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Portland reading New Jersey at USA and then an alien

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head a whole bunch of emojis. That's what caught my attention.

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That's up. Thank you so much to Patricia. We also

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want to say thank you to Michelle Cleo Muggleton, who

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says she's from Lime Lake's Machias, New York, an hour

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outside of Buffalo, New York. And the last, but not

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least on my list, which yeah, Keith Jordan from Georgia.

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I already already mentioned him. Sorry Key, I guess he's

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extra special because he got mentioned twice. What can I guys?

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That finishes up fan shows. If you'd like to be

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were ready to have some fun. Okay, let's dive right in.

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So we usually start off with some cadet training from Charles,

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and that's what Child goes through and pulls out. It

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fits facts involved of the episode that we're about to discuss,

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and I will turn the microphone over to Child.

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Oh thank you, Jim. Good good episodes in this one

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right off the bat, and I think a favorite at

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least one trucky in here. Tng Drumhead season four, episode

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twenty one, when the doctor refers to judge Aaron Sati,

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this is the This is the point that where where

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Bercard actually references the judge. Also, so this goes all

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the way back to the TNG Era Voyagers Projections Season two,

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episode three. The doctor believes the ship is in a

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simulation and he is a real person in question the

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nature of its existence. So one of several times with

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the doctorate's question his actual existence Voyager another one I know,

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especially one person really enjoys Season two episode twenty three,

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two of Vix and definitely I think we can understand

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the debate on that one. Dis nine in the Hands

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of the Prophets Season one, episode twenty good explanation for

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this science versus faith.

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Should we should we be.

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Teaching the Bajoran wormhole and teaching about the prophets to

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all of the kids on the on the ship, on

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the station, or should be focusing more on science and

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what needs what's required to be taught. Star Trek six

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Undiscovered Country slash Discovery season three. The structure of the

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Klingon moon practice released the shockwave that critically damages atmosphere

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of their homework Konos, given it only fifty years of

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life in necessitating peace and negotiation with the Federation much

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later in the thirty second century. The burn causes dilethium

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reactors on Kronos to explode, leading to widespread devastation.

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As to why our Klingons do not have a homeworld.

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Of course, dng Rightful Air Season six, episode twenty three,

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he mentioned, we mentioned Kalus, So that's.

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The history, little bit of the history of KALs.

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And I was digging through all kinds of debate, a

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court cases, all kinds were they debate different things in

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star Trek, and I came with what people and what

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many of the hosts here know is one of my

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favorite debates, and I put this episode up against that

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one TNG measure. But Man, season two, episode nine, whether

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we decide if data isn't a sentient being or just

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property of Starfleet, definitely, I think pushers that's showing this

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is an interesting episode. I think Paul might have a

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recap of letting us know what's going on with this episode.

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So I appreciate it. So before we get into our

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big discussion about this particular episode of Starfleet Academy, we

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always like to provide a little bit of a recap

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for folks who either watched it a week ago, have

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fuzzy recollections. They're just kind of put us on the

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same page. That's the purpose of this brief intro here.

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This particular episode is called vox in excelso that is

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Latin for a voice on high and it actually is

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a famous expression from the fourteenth century from Pope Clement

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that he used when he was officially dissolving the Knights

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Templar for their accusations of heresy and tortured confessions. I

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don't mention that for any timely reason whatso all, but

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just a little trivia for those who like to get

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a little education and want to know what the hell

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these Latin titles mean.

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From Star Trek.

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So this is a spectacularly interesting episode. There is a

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lot to unpack here. The main plot, as Charles referenced here,

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is the existential threat that we are dealing with, the

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fallout after the burn.

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find out near the very beginning of this episode that

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a Klingon freighter carrying the last of the eight Great Houses,

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including the family of Cadet Jaden Cragg, has crashed and

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their survival is very much in doubt. So what a setup, right,

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the Federation. Right, they've identified a potential new home world.

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that as charity, right, and the surrendering of their honor,

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so they're not quite on.

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There is a lot of really.

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after a brief intro from the Chancellor right where she's

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marveling at a nebula, we immediately go to the doctor

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where he is talking about one of the most important

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things that you can ever learn to do in terms

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of communication is the great debate and the fact that

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he needs to help the cadet to understand the importance

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of rhetoric and being able to argue your points. And

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as somebody who has been involved in like public speaking

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for longer than I care to admit, and done huge

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amounts of debates and huge amounts of stuff with coastmasters,

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I'm here to tell you this episode gets it right

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and is very spot on. I love to see the

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fact that the importance of the debate and of public

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speaking is edified so well in this episode. However, if

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you're in that sphere, one of the things you always

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know is that fear of speaking in public is universally

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one of the top phobia's people ever have. Okay, it

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is listed above fear of shark. As far as things

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people are terrified of. And what's great is one of

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our cadets who you would be least likely to expect

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being afraid of something. Jaden Cragg the Klingon, has got

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an intense sense of fear of expressing himself in public.

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What a great way to begin the melieu of this episode, right,

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making sure I'm still connected here? Can you hear me?

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I'm getting a weird spinning thing. Hopefully you can.

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weird spin I'll try to go quick. So anyhow, Jaden

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has got this glossophobia, this fear of public speaking.

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He is a pacifist, right, and it led to a

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rift with his traditionalistic warrior family and his father, right

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except for his brother. And there's a lot of great

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flashbacks that we see of his coming to terms with

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his identity and the belief and support that he gets

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from his brother before he makes the decision to go

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off and pursue his destiny in the stars with Starfleet Academy.

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Really really great Caleb Mehir is there as well, who

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just surprisingly to the doctor, really excels at debate, right,

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because it's a form of battle. He found that you

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had to educate your thing itself on things, and he

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eventually bonds with Jaden, overcling on history and there enjoyment

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of warrior stew. Jaden goes on a great arc in

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this episode. He finds his voice on the debate stage

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and argues that Klingons have to retain their own agency.

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It's not up for the.

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Federation to tell them who they are. I mean, if

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there is anything more resonant to contemporary situations in our

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civilization today, I can't imagine. But he later learns that

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his parents survived the crash and that his father actually

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intentionally allowed him to leave for Style Fleet in order

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to free him from those minds. There so some great stuff,

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some wonderful stuff from Laura Thock, the cadet master providing

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guidance out there, a good moment from Darren teaching him

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battle breathing to be able to overcome his anxiety, and

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just some excellent moments that it will be really fun

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to unpack and discuss. I thought this was an outstanding

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episode full of great trick. Laur It's exactly the kind

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of thing I would like to see this show doing.

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So who wants to jump in first friends.

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Well, before we go through Pune, we have Eric is

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going to do our fan reactions and you guys can

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go to our Facebook paviors, I said, Truck Talking and

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beyond and every Friday, which will be tomorrow, I will

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put up a post asking you guys to score the

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episode on a scale on one to ten, with ten

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being the best, and you know, leave us an explanation

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as to why you liked it or I didn't like it,

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and again look for heart next to your name and

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then tuning into the podcast and you'll hear your comments

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read by Eric. So, Eric, what did our Facebook fans

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have to say about this episode?

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Well, Laurie Johnson said, I loved this episode. Finally got

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to know Jaden. Loved his understanding that he could be

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cling on and Starfleet, very similar to the struggle warf

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went through in Next Generation. His realization he could keep

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his biological brother in his heart and keep Caleb close

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as a brother was wonderful and he taught Caleb lesson.

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I think definitely a ten with one, two, three, four, five,

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six exclamation points. Thanks Lori. John mang Mangan said, I

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cranked it up to an eleven and John, I will

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allow that, but we do have to average it to

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a ten. But we get you, We get you, brother,

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best episode of track I've seen in years. This was

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proper full on adult trek wrestling with thorny problems of identity, politics, entitlement,

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self doubt, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. That would have made Gene

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and Ts proud. Thanks John. Carla Saravia uher Nick said

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ten out of ten, highly recommended. It gives so much

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a tos vibe. I find a humorous, warm, and familiar

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I really love this show. So now I suppose I've

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opened myself up to the slings and arrows of the

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day sayers. Anything that's thrown at me will make a

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bit of difference though me either, Carla, thanks for that.

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Fred Carpentershety gave it a nine. I rate episodes of

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all my shows on IMDb, and nine would be very

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special for me. This episode is where the concept and

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potential of this show was fully realized, and I hope

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they can maintain it. Aspects of the first few episodes

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for me were touching go, but here everything worked and

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delivered a classic addition to the trek canon Fred Carpenter, sheety,

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thank you so much. Ranal Baldwin said, the soul of

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a Klingon warrior is not limited to what he achieves

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on the battlefield, but is measured by the honor he

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brought to his house, the loyalty he showed to his

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brother and sisters in arms, the wisdom he passed to

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the next generation, and the courage he displayed in facing

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life's trials, both in combat and in peace. Who well Wow.

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A true warrior's legacy lives in the memories of those

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who knew his strength of character, in the songs sung

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of his deeds, and in the example he sets for

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how one should live with integrity and die with dignity.

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His spirit journeys on to Stovecore, not merely because he

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fell in battle, but because he lived and died with

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honor in all things. Blah with a nine from Ronel

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Amira Hudson gave it a ten without a doubt. It

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was beautifully written and beautifully played. It's nice to see

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them flashing out backstory as they did, fleshing out backstory

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as they did. Since SFA is truly geared to the

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younger generation, it is nice to see them, reaching towards

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those who are different in so many ways and bringing

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them along for the ride. I loved it. Keith Riley

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definitely a ten boy. There's a real trend here, guys

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keeping the roots of Star Trek in the future years

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of the show. It is most definitely to bring in

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new young viewers, but even us they grew up with

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Toos through all Star Trek, can appreciate it. You just

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have to understand that it's a new generation and a

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show about a school. My favorite Star Trek is strange

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new worlds and I am so very hoping for a remake,

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not a reboot of TOS. Some stories deserve to live forever.

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That will open the original movies for remake and keeping

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the same stories with the new actors will be a success.

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Thank you, Keith. True Star Trek fan there Susan Robbins

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gave it a ten for the series seven. Across all

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of the Trek series I've watched, self determination in the

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face of potential extinction is a tough topic. I think

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it was handled well. I also think this iteration of

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Trek is off to a good start. I look forward

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to seeing the cast, crew and writers grow together. Shannon

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bah absolutely and eleven. Same to you, Shannon, that's a ten,

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but thank you. This will go down as one of

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the best episodes of Trek, along with In the Pale Moonlight,

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Sitting on the Edge of Forever, the Inner Light, whoo Slinging.

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Some big names there, Shannon, but I don't disagree with you.

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Alan Cross gave it a ten. Best Star Trek episode

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from any Star Trek series I've seen it in a

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very long time. Spencer Foulby Fublee Fuble a solid nine.

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The series has been good so far. I feel this

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episode sets a high bar for the rest of the season.

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Jordan Kim Karran said six, which is generous because the

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last ones were like a two, and Nick Van Aiken

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said eight. I wasn't expecting much greatness in this early

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in the season, but it seems they're finding they're footing quickly.

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Jim our fans score this week is ridiculous. It's a

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nine point two. It's a nine point two. That's like,

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I don't even know where that falls in the overall lexicon,

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but it's got to be right up there. Charles can

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probably calculate that really quickly, but it is. It is

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right up there. So that's what the fans thought, you

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should probably talk about it.

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I guess well, we are definitely going to talk about it.

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But there was one thing I want to discuss. I

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want to get all of our collective reactors to one

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particular scene in this episod so and I want to

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get on my soapbox for just one minute before I

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play that scene and we talk about it, we get

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into our stores, and that is that. I think Starfleet

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Academy is perfect show for what we have going on

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right now, young people, you know, hope for the future,

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learning to deal with adversity and complexities and relationships. And

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for that, I wanted to play this clip where Where

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Where is it? Where is it? Where Darren teaches Jaden

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the breathing? So I want to play that for you guys, right.

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Go away.

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Look, I'm just here to ask a favor. Whatever you've

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said to Caleb has got him stumping around our room.

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Now he's like super pissy with me. So I'm going

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to ask you hit me.

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What come on?

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You know you aren't.

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See you can pretend you're punching Caleb in the face.

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I do not want you want to punch Caleb in

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the face. Even Caleb wants to punch himself in the face.

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It's a it's a core tenant's personality.

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Jada, what are you.

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So scared of? Huh to show me what you got?

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Come on, hit me, show me, Come on.

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I am not hitting you.

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It would be like squashing an infact.

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I felt good.

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And you know what they teach young fighters when fear

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takes hold mm hm, when.

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Battle breathing on your feet, trust me.

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Chack who pet chat a bay whosh pe char by

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pay whosh peck child back pay whosh.

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Pet chat.

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Okay, p whosh pH p g p oose PECHERA whose peacher?

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I peck p oose pet char, I bet pose peacher,

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I bet.

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I bet bull picture a bet b betcher A big.

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Get bit, big job, get bit.

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Us use it, Honorable Assembly. My opponent has argued that

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the Klingon Okay, that the Klingon Empire.

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Oh God.

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So I wanted to play that quick because I think

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there's been a lot of miscommunication about that particular scene

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on the internet. I I wanted to get your take

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on it. I did not take that scene as a

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I didn't think there was any sexual attention in that

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scene in my opinion, to me, that was two warriors

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to two friends too, two men communicating, which I think

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is something that's missing from Star Trek. If it was

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two women to be one thing. But we very rarely

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do we see two men expressing that type of of

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relationship together, and I thought it was. It was beautifully done,

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and I didn't think that it was I didn't see

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anything there that would have that was sexual. I just

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saw two friends, a warrior helping another warrior overcome his

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his fear with a Kylonian. Is that the right word, Kylian?

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So Jim, I had to reconnect and I missed your intro. Man,

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what was the thing about the scene that you had

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a point about? I missed it entirely what you said.

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A lot of people on the internet are saying that

471
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.400
this is and they're going crazy over this scene where

472
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.920
you have a gate pling on and I did not

473
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.440
see it that way at all, and I wanted to

474
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.880
play that scene for you guys to see if you

475
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.720
agree with the way I saw it. The way I

476
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.599
saw it was just two warriors, one warrior of helping

477
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.240
another warrior, and I thought it was a great scene.

478
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.519
Because Raymie has been the dick of the show, but

479
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.680
I think in this particular scene, he's growing on me.

480
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.119
He's come out of that dickiness, and you know, he's

481
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.680
sincerely trying to help a friend deal with a situation.

482
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:39.359
And I thought the scene was beautifully active, beautifully portrayed,

483
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.920
and I thought it was one of the many highlights

484
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:47.039
of this particular episode. Was that scene right there, you know,

485
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.440
two men having a platonic moment together is the way

486
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.279
I saw it, and I thought it was it was

487
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:58.680
just perfect for what we need today. So you know,

488
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.880
what did you guys think about that scene? Am I

489
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:03.039
seeing that's wrong?

490
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.319
Or well, Jim, I don't. I don't think any of

491
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.960
us are right right wing, like uh trolls who like,

492
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.359
you know, are you know, living in our mom's basement.

493
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.200
Well you know, I mean sometimes I mean I don't.

494
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:18.200
I mean, and we're not bots, we're not from a

495
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.480
Russian troll farm. We don't like, we don't like uh

496
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.119
jd Van. So this is none of us are going

497
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.200
to agree with that. It's kind of silly. I mean,

498
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:28.839
it's just because the only people who are going to

499
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.119
object to the scene are people who are the same

500
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:33.319
people are out there fat shaming people and the same

501
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.799
people out there finding something to complain about. None of

502
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.880
those are that's none of who us are. I mean,

503
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.519
it's almost pointless to go around this crew, right, because

504
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.200
we're all very much you know, I don't think any.

505
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:44.319
Of us are uh.

506
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:51.039
Yeah, intolerant ambles, right, because that's the person who's going

507
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.519
to look at that and who's got is so and again,

508
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.279
you know, folks around the globe, we're coming here from

509
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.240
the United States. Okay, with this podcast, we are the

510
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.400
most sexually present country on planet Earth. I mean we

511
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.519
you know, we can have as much violence shit as

512
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.119
you want on TV, right, violence all day long, But

513
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.799
do you start talking about anything involving sex or intimacy,

514
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.240
or anything involving like, you know, non buying, you know,

515
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:19.079
non you know, heterosexual stuff, people losing they just cannot

516
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:19.519
handle them.

517
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:20.480
Yeah, I don't know.

518
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.480
I was, I was anyone agree with anyone disagree with you?

519
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.119
No, I thought it was a beautiful scene. I was

520
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:32.119
really quite frankly appalled when I saw the quite frankly,

521
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.559
you know, like a bunch of uh eleven or twelve

522
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.359
year old boys that are you know, snickering, Oh look

523
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.559
at that, and to me. People who say that, first off,

524
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:49.680
are you know, are what is it Danibian slime devils?

525
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:55.559
But every man, every to me, every accusation is a

526
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:59.880
confession with those folks. You know that's been proven over

527
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.880
and over again. So you know what, just come on out.

528
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.319
Star Trek is a welcoming world. We won't shame you

529
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.599
like you shame other people. So just get a grip

530
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:15.199
and recognize because just because they've never had any sort

531
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.480
of a you know, a true friendship with another man.

532
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.320
That was That was beautiful and I of course cracked

533
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.440
up at and he said, don't you want to punch

534
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.840
Caleb in the face. Everybody wants to and he wants to.

535
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:29.239
That was great.

536
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:33.760
That was great. And then later on we'll see that

537
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:37.480
both of them, Caleb and Raymie do something for really

538
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:41.239
really nice for jade En. So yeah, anybody that that,

539
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:47.960
you know, it's the same, the same pieces of tard

540
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:52.840
poop that yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to think of,

541
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:56.039
you know, trying to not use the vernacular like we've

542
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.360
been having in this show, but try to come up

543
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:04.119
with some inventive terms. But the people that were body shaming, uh,

544
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:09.559
some of the female actors or the you know, the relationships.

545
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:12.800
And it's like they tell me that you don't know

546
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:17.679
Star Trek when you cannot understand infinite diversity, infinite combinations.

547
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.000
So I thought it was a beautiful scene. It was

548
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:21.880
a beautiful scene.

549
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.000
Yeah, I agree. I think that to me, that scene

550
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:32.559
sums up Star Trek right there. We would never see

551
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.400
a scene like that on any other starts. Well, we

552
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:39.920
have it at this point later for putting that in there.

553
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:46.119
Anybody want to have anything before Colonel David?

554
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.880
No, okay, I mean, I guess the one thing I

555
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.280
would like to add, Jim, is that you know, I

556
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:55.400
agree with you all, like I didn't read the scene

557
00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.519
that way. I want to be careful that that we're

558
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:03.320
not saying that if people read the scene that way,

559
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:09.159
that they're wrong that you know, perhaps like if somebody

560
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.000
in the future writes fan fiction about these two, I

561
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.199
don't want to say that, like it's wrong, you know

562
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:19.719
what I mean? Like I didn't I what's that's not

563
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.679
even really important about this scene? Like what's important about

564
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.800
this scene is that there are two friends, regardless of

565
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.119
their like exact relationship to one another, one of them

566
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.599
is recognizing seeing the other person, which is a theme

567
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:37.079
in this entire episode, right and responding to their friend's

568
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:42.079
needs in the moment, and there's nobody can possibly find

569
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.360
anything wrong with that, right, Oh.

570
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:52.039
Yeah, that's true. Well I want to I want to

571
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.239
start I want to go first with this episode. Obviously,

572
00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:58.760
what can I say? I love that, I'm going to

573
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.039
start out. I'm going to give it an which is

574
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.360
gonna round down. This is by far my favorite episode.

575
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.880
Starfleet Academy just keeps amazing me as it just keeps

576
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.440
getting better and better and better as they go along,

577
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:13.880
and usually it takes some time to find their footing,

578
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.960
but with this episode, they found it pretty quick and

579
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:23.639
I was I was, I was like, yes, you know,

580
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.000
I thought that was great. The friendships that we see

581
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:31.159
forged in this episode are just are just phenomenally between,

582
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.760
like the one we just saw between Remy and Jayden,

583
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:38.119
and of course Beer and Jayden later become brothers. The

584
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.440
flashbacks with Jaden's family on whatever that planet was with

585
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.719
the Great Punt Jaden's brother urging him to follow his

586
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:52.599
heart and go to Starfleet to become a healer. It

587
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.639
was interesting that the Klingons now have a triad, which

588
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.280
I thought was an interesting little twist on their on

589
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:07.280
their family dynamic. The the I'm a little bit confused

590
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:14.039
with the situation where their homeworld gets destroyed because all right,

591
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.280
I'm gonna be a little bit picky here. It doesn't

592
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.599
take away from the episode at all. Loved it, loved it,

593
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.800
loved it, loved it. But I wasn't on the impression

594
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.159
that playing on Empire was like twenty four houses spread

595
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:29.960
out across this vast like empire, so you know, for

596
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:35.280
the delithium crystals to explode on cronles and destroy everything

597
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:39.000
on in the universe except for these eight houses. I'm like, Okay,

598
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:43.719
I don't know if I buy that, But that's not

599
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:46.639
enough to sway me out of the awesomeness of this episode,

600
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:52.000
of which was incredible. The scene where Laura Flock goes

601
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:58.679
in mentors Jaden what an actress she is. She is incredible.

602
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.800
Ah yeah, I just uh yeah, I love this, Jaden.

603
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.960
Or Jaden's picking the pepperoni out of the stew because

604
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:16.599
he won't eat something that yeah, you know, I let

605
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:20.239
Holly Hunter. I say this again. That woman is a

606
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:26.559
totally force of acting. She is absolutely just top notch incredible. Well,

607
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:32.679
she has the conversation with obi Obi. Check Obie, Obie

608
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:38.679
something Obi want to check the klanion leader, not Obi

609
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:44.239
Wan from obi Obi. I think it's war war Chok,

610
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:46.960
that's it. And they're drinking the blood wine and the

611
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.480
glasses all over the place and stuff like that. And

612
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:53.280
there's definitely some sexual tension there between those two. You

613
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.519
know that they got jiggy witted at some point time.

614
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:02.599
I really like the resolution and the Silver foxlevance for

615
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.039
those of you don't know, shows up and they solve

616
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:12.800
the Klingon problem in a Klingon. Loved it. I can't

617
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.559
say anything bad about it. I loved it. I gave

618
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.800
it an eleven, and I just hope that they continue

619
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:23.079
on this path of greatness that they're currently on. So

620
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.920
that's my score. I'm going with eleven. Which child's gonna

621
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:27.639
roll after I.

622
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.519
And the sure Well, first off, I appreciate the uh

623
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.960
this is spinal tap reference with turning it up to eleven.

624
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:47.239
That's great. Yeah, this was a fantastic episode because it's

625
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:52.480
all about you know, family and identity and expectation. So

626
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:56.599
Jaden when he's I love that they flash back to

627
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:01.440
his family and you know what, he's expected to be

628
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:07.639
versus what he wanted to be. And oh no, I

629
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.559
want to go back even to the very beginning with

630
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:12.679
the doctor. I forgot to mention, Uh, did anybody miss

631
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.239
the fact that he when he's talking to the students,

632
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:21.599
he refers to them as zygots? That was that that

633
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:26.119
cracked me up. So that was just a you know,

634
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.960
funny little reference. And I read somewhere and I forgot

635
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.119
to look it up exactly. But the the Sauti quote

636
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.119
somehow got miss construed that he didn't say it the

637
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:42.440
right way. Did anybody catch that? Was that correct? Or

638
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:49.519
was that somebody you know, miss miss remembering the original quote?

639
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:50.159
Because they were.

640
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:54.920
He was like, I saw that, but I didn't bother

641
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.679
to go back and look, because I figures.

642
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.440
You're going to have some some sort of missed, you know,

643
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.639
lost in translation stuff right exactly.

644
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:16.440
And when Picard quotes Settee in the drum Head, he

645
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.760
actually like, there's a phrasing thing that Picard does that

646
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.840
makes it sound like the I think. I think Picard

647
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.400
doesn't do an exact Cete quote. And of course we

648
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.960
never actually hear Sati say Satis quote right randomly here

649
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:38.840
cards say it, so but just very just the.

650
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:45.280
Part with Jayden's brother and he has found that uh

651
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:50.320
the that Federation technology which is forbidden, but it's that.

652
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:52.760
What is it?

653
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:56.599
It's the has atle I guess the advertisement for lack

654
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.239
of a better term, talking about Starfleet Academy. And that's

655
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.840
where his brother is encouraging him. So his brother is

656
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:07.840
able to step out of the you know, Klingon warrior

657
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:14.480
expectation and he recognizes what his brother needs, and of

658
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.719
course that just makes it even more tragic when his

659
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:22.519
brother dies as a result of getting uh stabbed because

660
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:27.079
he was trying to get more Federation technology. So that

661
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:32.199
was that was really rather heartrending. I like to know

662
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.960
what Warrior stew is all about. That was that was interesting.

663
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:40.280
The only thing that I got from it is Jaden

664
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.440
was eating it. It's it's very spicy, so uh well.

665
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.480
And it looks like in the in the one scene

666
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.119
they it looked like it had some white worms.

667
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.639
Oh okay, okay, they.

668
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.119
Sew okay, it's okay.

669
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.159
So so he eats that, but he's picked about pepperoni.

670
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:01.840
Go figure.

671
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:04.360
That was fun.

672
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.719
No, but but the Warrior Stu died in battle. Yeah,

673
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:08.400
so that makes it.

674
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:14.119
That's right, okay, okay. And I remember back in my gosh,

675
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:17.280
I think it was junior high when I took debate,

676
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:22.119
and I was very very very shy and seeing that

677
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.119
scene where when Jaden is trying to speak and he's

678
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:30.199
just like about ready to pass out. And I don't

679
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.199
think anybody, I think a lot of people could relate

680
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.440
to that because we've probably all been in one public

681
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.280
speaking situation or another where he felt like he wanted

682
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.119
to pass out or throw up or both, you know.

683
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:47.119
But you know, later on he's able to find his voice.

684
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:52.800
And the whole solution to it's like, here's this perfect

685
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.239
planet for them, but we can't give it to them

686
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:01.679
because that's charity. And but we will have a battle

687
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.360
and somehow, you know, everybody knows that this is just

688
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:09.199
a mock battle, uh, but it's to to be able

689
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.719
to have the Klingon say we claim, uh, this planet,

690
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.440
you know, as our own. So that was just I

691
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.960
thought that was an absolutely brilliant solution to finding them

692
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:24.599
a new home. And I was I was also thinking

693
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.559
about the d S nine episode called Sanctuary where the

694
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:34.079
screens come through the wormhole and they have been displaced

695
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.360
and their story sounds rather like, uh, you know, the

696
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:41.159
Bajorans and they come to the realization that you know,

697
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.280
bajor is our Katana and this was this is our

698
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.760
planet and we want to you know, we want to

699
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.280
occupy it. There's the Western Province or whatever that's just

700
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:57.800
begging to be farmed. But you know, the the Bajoran

701
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.400
the two people say, well, you know it used to

702
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:03.800
be good, but that it was ruined and so we

703
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.079
just can't have you. And so I just thought, how,

704
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:11.320
you know, horribly that ended. They couldn't you know, they

705
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:14.079
found another planet, but it wasn't you know, what these

706
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:15.159
screens wanted.

707
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:15.679
And so.

708
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.719
That had a very to me, a very sad ending

709
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.519
to it. But so I like this this one much

710
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:27.079
much better. And then at the very end, because his

711
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.599
uh was it his say, I didn't quite understand. Does

712
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.639
he have two fathers? Was that there were two fathers

713
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.760
and one mother in Jaden's family? Is that what you

714
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:44.159
were talking about? Okay, well, uncle, okay, I don't know

715
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:48.119
whoever it was that, but they destroyed that that that

716
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:52.199
orb that Jaden treasured because that was his only link

717
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.199
to his brother. And then he has that, but he

718
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.320
has the pieces of it and then at the end

719
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:04.440
when uh so Caleb and Remi worked together and they

720
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.760
fixed it for him, and I was just like, ah,

721
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:11.960
that that just that was just so wonderful. And so

722
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.800
I think that not only did Jayden get his treasured

723
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:21.719
piece of technology back, but he also gained two brothers

724
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:26.400
in remy In and Caleb. So I'll go with a trend.

725
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.320
It's absolute eleven. I'll turn it all the way up

726
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:33.159
to eleven for that excellent, excellent episode.

727
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:42.599
All right, excells, we have two eleven so far. Who

728
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.880
wants to jump in there? Next? You want to go all.

729
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.039
Okay? They pull out my notes.

730
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:59.559
Uh, very beginning, you will move before these comment I

731
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.880
love of the comments.

732
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:08.679
Where the doctors uses the term chicken shit to the cadets, and.

733
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.239
One I like, the one with the glasses who looks

734
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.440
like he's okay one of our nerds like, oh, can

735
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:16.280
you really say that?

736
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:18.719
And it's like, I've been around.

737
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:23.280
Here for so long, for decades, I've got the right

738
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.679
to what I can do, and if you don't like it,

739
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.840
one day you might have that ability.

740
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.000
I haven't quite figured out which.

741
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:42.719
Which one did the doctor use in reference to his existence.

742
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:50.199
I found out about four episodes and in Voyager where

743
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:54.360
he works on condemned can trying to decide his true

744
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.320
true existence, his version of measure of a man. But

745
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:04.039
I thought interesting, also interesting. I did not realize this,

746
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:10.159
but I looked up IMDb and IMDb reference fifteen different

747
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.880
Star Trek episodes that had court cases. So court cases

748
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.320
are not unusual in Star Trek. But of course, as

749
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:26.440
I've mentioned before, one of my favorite court cases in

750
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:30.639
Star Trek is measure of a man is data? Can

751
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.800
we prove Data's existence? And that's what I thought when

752
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.960
they saw this episode. It's like, that's what this episode

753
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:45.960
reminds me of, is that situation? Yeah, and I love

754
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:51.280
how I love how Jdel goes against saving the Klingons,

755
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:55.559
trying to say that they have their own existence. I

756
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:58.440
thought this episode was interesting that it discusses how the

757
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:04.119
Klingon society in ways have changed, but in ways have

758
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:08.679
not changed. There's still a lot of similarities to what

759
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:15.000
the Klingons have been for so many centuries. I know

760
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:18.760
there was a comment reference that KALs was slightly mispronounced,

761
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.280
but I lead that to the fact it's like, Okay,

762
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:26.599
this is I was talking with David earlier it's like, okay,

763
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:31.199
this is at least nine hundred years before main Trek.

764
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.440
I'm not exactly sure how far in the past KALs

765
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:41.480
Kalis's stories first started or when he first existed.

766
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:45.199
That was quite along.

767
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:46.039
David kind of.

768
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.639
Referenced, thinking it might have been even towards the our

769
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:54.880
Roman era, and so hey were that far in the

770
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:56.760
future there have been changes to.

771
00:50:58.239 --> 00:50:59.360
Their society.

772
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.079
Well, and Charles, I'm not even sure that one stems

773
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:06.920
from changes. I think that's just a matter of pronunciation.

774
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.599
Like you go back to Discovery, they absolutely pronounced kless

775
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.880
kaylash right, And I think it's no different from saying

776
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.960
like beding versus peeking, or you know, it's it's a

777
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:26.400
it's a mispronunciation, a common mispronunciation to say kyless in English,

778
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.960
which I think is okay. But if you're pronouncing an

779
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:34.320
in kling on just like versus chronomes right.

780
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:41.079
Oh definitely, it's all. But it was interesting what wants right,

781
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:42.719
come on right?

782
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:44.280
Oh easy?

783
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.840
But I love how the fact that we had we

784
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:58.920
started off with just a standard trial to seeing how

785
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:03.719
things go. And I love how our one cadet proved himself.

786
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:07.119
It's like and I love how he would later asked like, well,

787
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.599
how did you know you just take this out of

788
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:09.960
the air.

789
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:13.800
It's like, no, I was stuck in prison. I studied

790
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:14.559
this material.

791
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:21.679
He knows Federation law, and I think that's interesting to

792
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:26.000
prove the fact that he studied that much Federation law

793
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:31.000
and understands it. I think that'll definitely put him towards

794
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:35.559
an interesting direction in the future, and the fact that

795
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:36.679
he knows this stuff.

796
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:41.679
But I love how we go through that.

797
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.079
We went through the different explanations or the different people

798
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:50.000
competing and trying to do opinions, and how we saw

799
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.679
a little bit of each character and how they acted.

800
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:56.280
And.

801
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:08.039
I love Jdel came back and discuss the issue and

802
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:12.760
it's like, well, there's only one way that this problem

803
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:18.599
could be solved. And I love going to the Chancellor

804
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:22.440
and it's like we don't see it, but he offers

805
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:26.840
his opinion to her and she's like, Okay, we're not

806
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.360
going to give this planet to them. We're going to

807
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:33.800
make them fight to want this planet. And it's like,

808
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.679
not much very often I've seen Trek actually do that.

809
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:44.719
Let's put up a battle and make them fight to

810
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:49.079
take the planet, which is a plant.

811
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.119
I think they would want to want to be on

812
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.360
but they need to prove that they could earn the

813
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:57.719
right to take that planet.

814
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:03.639
And that battle, oh at the beginning or of the

815
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.760
story of that battle, of the music that came in

816
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.639
that was some beautiful battle music.

817
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.800
And that would just caught my attention. That's a little

818
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:14.360
bit of the.

819
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:21.880
USS Riker was there, but I'm not sure if that

820
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:26.960
was motion picture which one. But the music they chose

821
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:32.880
in there to start it, which is great battle and

822
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:34.760
we were new we were coming in for a fight,

823
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.320
and it's like okay, yep, and we're not going to

824
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:38.400
damage their ships.

825
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:40.239
Okay.

826
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.519
It's I love it that it's at the end it's like, okay,

827
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:46.480
well we didn't have any major damage, but lots of

828
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:52.880
coincidence neither did we. It's like, okay, yeah, In fact,

829
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.320
JD l doing something that I gathered most cadets don't

830
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:59.159
get to do, and that's visit the bridge.

831
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:03.519
Be getting up there and seeing the bridge and seeing

832
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:10.679
the fight going on. I think it shows It's interesting.

833
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:17.039
I think with Jim's comment about the breathing scene, I

834
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:19.519
think I understand somebody's comment, but I'm gonna take a

835
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.559
different direction. As much I think It's gonna be interesting

836
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:27.719
to see the relationship, but see the relationship of more

837
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:32.599
of a brother level between these two characters. I think

838
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:35.199
they're gonna be cadets and maybe brothers. We may see

839
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:38.559
some better interaction with these two where they work together.

840
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:43.840
And seeing these two different species working together, I should

841
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:44.920
think should be interesting.

842
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.840
And how do I go with this episode?

843
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:55.440
I'm not taking all the way to eleven, but I

844
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:59.320
will give it a ten. I will agree with that

845
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:01.639
ten ones that and worthy.

846
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.280
That's very impressive. How about you, Eric, what do you think?

847
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:09.000
Wow?

848
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:14.480
Yeah, So for me, this episode strikes pretty much a

849
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:20.360
perfect balance between like high level federation diplomacy stuff and

850
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:25.440
the personal character growth of Jaden and I love star

851
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:28.719
Trek that does both of those things. This is very drumheady,

852
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.639
of course, I mean the natural like reference to set

853
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.320
erin Setia, of course, but like just in the way

854
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:37.159
it sort of plays out, it kind of feels like

855
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:44.039
that too, the so so big level themes. So to me,

856
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.960
there were moments, guys in this episode where I shed

857
00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:51.960
tears and I think it was this like idea that

858
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.320
so many of the themes that were explored in this

859
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:03.360
episode had to do with seeing somebody and being willing

860
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:09.599
to come to their table versus the idea of having

861
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:12.119
a table that you make other people come to. And

862
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:16.320
to me, the coolest part about that is that this

863
00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:21.679
is actually almost like a split between old school federation

864
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:26.599
ideals and kind of like twenty first twenty first slash

865
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:31.079
thirty second century federation ideals. So back in the day,

866
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:34.480
we had the Federation, and the Federation was the stable

867
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.079
force in the galaxy, right, and if you wanted to

868
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.440
not be in a shit storm of craziness, you needed

869
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:43.119
to join the Federation because it was literally the only

870
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.239
stable place that you could go. And that was a

871
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:48.840
very like nineteen sixties way to kind of look at society, right, like,

872
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:54.840
we have this stable society, democracy, you know, free elections,

873
00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:57.079
et cetera, et cetera. All of those themes kind of

874
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:02.039
like provided real life evidence for this thing that was

875
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:05.079
being explored in Star Trek Okay. So similarly, now we

876
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:09.119
gener we we don't move forward now to our real

877
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:12.000
twenty first century, and we say, what do we need

878
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:19.559
you know, in this in this kind of time. And

879
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:24.000
I think it's that it's this idea that you know,

880
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:27.679
many different voices can come together I love the fact

881
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:33.920
that this show has like multiple multi racial characters and

882
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:37.199
multiple types of characters. I mean, we've got like a

883
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.000
holographic character, and this kind of like idea of like

884
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:45.039
diversity and stuff. But moreover, this idea that like connecting

885
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:49.119
to somebody on an intimate personal level, like this scene

886
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:51.599
that we looked at here between these two guys, right,

887
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:56.559
is okay. I think that we've been taught, especially I

888
00:58:56.679 --> 00:58:59.760
will tell you as dudes in the United States, that

889
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:04.280
it's kind of taboo to like grab another man by

890
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:07.320
the hands and look him in the eye and help

891
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:09.400
him through an emotional situation.

892
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.360
It's just not it's I.

893
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.519
Think it's I think it's remiss to say that it's

894
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:21.760
not actively discouraged, because I think it is so so anyway,

895
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.320
I love the fact that they're embracing that in this

896
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:28.119
in this episode. So yeah, four big themes. I see,

897
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.639
you've got the Jaden backstory. I loved all the stuff

898
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:33.960
with his family, kind of his connection with his brother

899
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:36.960
house brother sees him. My favorite part of the Jaden

900
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.679
backstory is the fact that he kind of grows up

901
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:43.280
thinking that his dad, one of his dads especially, didn't

902
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:48.199
support him, and then though, is able to completely reframe

903
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.079
that for him and like blow his mind and where

904
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:53.239
like that to me was like one of the most

905
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:58.039
special moments of this episode. You've got the settee debates,

906
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.360
which of course the doctor knew is going to be

907
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:04.000
a loaded thing, right, and these two guys like eventually

908
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:08.800
kind of yelling at each other, but out of it

909
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.840
comes this brilliant idea of speaking like the Klingons, which

910
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:18.800
for me was very Michael Burnham Battle of the Binary Stars, right,

911
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:21.480
Like she says at the beginning of Discovery, you got

912
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:23.559
to attack the Klingons and if you don't, you're gonna

913
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:27.719
regret it. And sure enough, that's what happens. And here Jaden,

914
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.239
a Klingon, is like, dude, you got to do the

915
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:32.480
Klingon thing. If you don't do the Klingon thing, you're

916
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:34.840
going to fail. And they do the Klingon thing and

917
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:39.719
it works, right, so freaking brilliant. I love that you

918
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:44.599
get hit Jaden's like, uh, well, other characters, not just

919
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:49.079
Jaden's but other characters developments, Jim, you already mentioned Mirr

920
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.199
and ray MEI and kind of like how they're interacting

921
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.039
with one another. So I love that Foch as the

922
01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:59.000
Cadet Master, just like I look at her and I

923
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:02.800
see jim Head right because of her spikes and her

924
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:06.119
like skin tone and stuff. But then like fifty percent

925
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:08.480
of her is Klingon. And so I loved the fact

926
01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:12.280
that there was this person who didn't look like a Klingon,

927
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:17.320
who identifies as Klingon helping the Klingon through the thing. Right,

928
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:21.719
that felt very twenty first century to me. With so

929
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:24.800
many like folks who are mixed race or come from

930
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:28.000
different countries or whatever in the world, you know, eventually

931
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:31.880
we're all going to be like the same shade, right,

932
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:36.360
So I just I just totally dug that. And then

933
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:40.159
finally I'll just say, the whole idea of finding out

934
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:43.199
more about the Klingons. Remember when we first jettisoned or

935
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.960
jettison jetted forward to the thirty second century and we said,

936
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.559
where are the Klingons? I wish Discovery had Klingons in

937
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.639
the thirty second center. Well, now we know right there

938
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.880
weren't any. And so that was a really cool kind

939
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:59.159
of play on the whole Star Trek six practice thing.

940
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:03.079
You know, it felt very familiar to kind of have

941
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:06.679
the Klingons having this major crisis where they're in diaspora

942
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:12.119
and that somebody understood that they had to unite under battle.

943
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:14.880
So anyway, sorry I chatted so much about this one,

944
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.840
but this was pretty much a perfect episode for me.

945
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:23.480
You've got all of these amazing themes occurring that just

946
01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:30.000
you know, being seen, being heard, overcoming your and understanding

947
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:34.440
your family's expectations, all of this stuff about the federation,

948
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:38.119
the face of Federation changing, so just just absolutely perfect.

949
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:41.159
Ten out of ten. It absolutely blew my mind and

950
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.559
I will watch this episode over and over again as

951
01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:44.280
the years go by.

952
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:48.960
I only watched it full of times so far.

953
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.440
I haven't had time, Jim, But I will get there.

954
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:54.480
I will get there.

955
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.320
So good you want to jump in here next to

956
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:03.360
Hawk and bring up the kaboos? Sure?

957
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:04.760
Yeah, can you guys?

958
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:08.679
Okay, yeah, all right, yeah.

959
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:12.239
So a couple of things I wanted to point out

960
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:17.519
was we got a little bit of backstory of the

961
01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:22.880
dominion cleanon woman Talk I think her name is. She

962
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:27.000
was saying that her lineage is from the Dominion on

963
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:31.159
her father's side and the Cleanon on her mother's side,

964
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.280
which kind of makes sense. And did you guys notice

965
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:38.360
how she said the free Freedom Dominions or something like that,

966
01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:40.679
the Free Fighters or whatever. So it seems like there

967
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:43.800
was a group of Domini or yeah, yeah, they just

968
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:48.039
like broke off from the original clones. So somehow I

969
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:51.280
guess they manipulated the genetics to have kids.

970
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:54.559
So I guess, becha, I thought, David, that went back

971
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:57.079
to that DS nine episode VS watch more recently, but

972
01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.360
the one where the group there's a group of Dominion

973
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:03.079
like yeah, warriors who break off and like break their

974
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:06.440
addiction of the white. So I kind of like, that's

975
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:06.679
what I.

976
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:08.800
Was thinking of too, because I don't know if you

977
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.320
guys noticed, but apparently her blood is white, so it

978
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.840
makes me wonder if she actually has stilled that uh

979
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:18.320
white drug that's just like.

980
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:22.519
A white blood.

981
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:24.840
Actually yeah, okay, I didn't know.

982
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:27.960
She doesn't have the pink blood of her klingon side,

983
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:31.320
She's got the white blood of her Yeah.

984
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:37.199
I got to carried off on from her father. But yeah,

985
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:40.079
I'm glad that we got a little bit about what

986
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:43.400
why she is how she is, So that actually kind

987
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.360
of made me a little happy. I wish I would

988
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.360
have gone a little deeper into it, but I got

989
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:50.719
just what I'm hoping there's a little bit more about

990
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:55.519
it in the future episode. But there was another thing

991
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:58.639
I wanted to get off my back was when Jim

992
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:02.639
was talking about that whole scene with Jayden and Raymond.

993
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:07.800
At first, yes, I was like, Okay, this is kind

994
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.480
of getting a little weird in like what Eric was saying,

995
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:13.679
it is a little taboo. Was she fine? I mean

996
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.000
we all grew up that way in America, So I

997
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:18.440
mean it's just the idea that we're just starting to

998
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:22.719
get into that form of like I mean, I get

999
01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:25.519
touched by people all the time because I was recently

1000
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:30.039
in the hospital, so doctors, male females, doesn't really matter.

1001
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:32.400
I mean, you know, the best fun part was you're

1002
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:34.159
getting a fun pass that felt so good.

1003
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:36.000
But just.

1004
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:47.719
But other than that, oh my gosh. But yeah, to me,

1005
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:51.000
I grew up in that kind of taboo thing and

1006
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:53.639
I'm slowly getting myself out of that in a way.

1007
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.159
But at the same time, I wanted to make it

1008
01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:58.920
clear that what Paul was mentioning that we're all this

1009
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:02.239
group of the like the left side, you know, well

1010
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:05.599
left wing. I'm not really technically left wing. I'm more independent,

1011
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:08.480
Just so everybody would know, because you know, I'm not

1012
01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:15.159
either or so, but to me, this entire episode, for

1013
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:21.320
some odd reason, just did not resonate with me as much. However,

1014
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:24.239
I want to say this last episode, the one I

1015
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:30.360
missed because I'm hospital today. Ah, that one bug the

1016
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.119
jeebers out of me. I could not watch that for

1017
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.639
some reason. I'm guessing it would because of the high

1018
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:39.480
school drama. Possibly that would probably be the biggest thing

1019
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:41.599
I would have to say about it. But ticking to

1020
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:43.719
this episode, this episode was a lot better. I want

1021
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:45.440
to say that was a lot better from the last.

1022
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:50.440
So to me, this episode in particular, I did like

1023
01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:55.920
the fact that they started to develop the Kleanon culture

1024
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.639
in the thirty second century. I was under the impression

1025
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.199
that the Cleanon, and I agree with you, Jim, the

1026
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:05.360
whole idea that the Cleanon, for some odd reason shouldn't

1027
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:09.400
have been extinct because there was such a vast I mean,

1028
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:11.679
they own like who knows how many planets. They were

1029
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.519
almost a rival to the Federation at one point many

1030
01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:17.679
times throughout history, and you know scar Tuk history that

1031
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.159
they were constantly fighting each other.

1032
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:23.320
And so to me, I'm just like, well, but but

1033
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.960
hold on. So so this is what I was talking

1034
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:27.920
about this is I didn't do a good enough job

1035
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:31.519
of describing this the practice connection. So remember in Star

1036
01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:34.119
Trek six, the reason that practice blows up is that

1037
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:39.719
the Klingons use more risky power generation technology than anybody

1038
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:44.519
else uh in the universe does, right, And that's and

1039
01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:46.559
something goes wrong, and that's what blows the moon up.

1040
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:51.119
So to me, the fact that Kronos's main way of

1041
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:56.039
generating power would have you know, uh antimatter core or whatever,

1042
01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:58.360
blew up during the burn, and that you would then

1043
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:03.440
replicate that technology on every other Klingon world that you start, right,

1044
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:08.280
you would like carry your portable antimatter generator there on

1045
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:10.079
your starship when you land, and that would be the

1046
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:11.599
way that you would generate power. So to me, it

1047
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.840
wasn't just that Chronos blew up. It was that all

1048
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:17.520
of the Kleon colonies blew up because that was the

1049
01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:19.800
technology that they were using for their power to.

1050
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:23.640
Actually probably and so why switch to a different technology

1051
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:26.239
if one works so well? Kind of thing. And then

1052
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:28.520
once you blew up, I can understand that a bunch

1053
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.760
of plants probably would have blown but I don't know

1054
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.399
there might be because they only mentioned eight Housrid, right,

1055
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.840
So to me, I'm just like maybe the other houses

1056
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.399
out there that they just have not discovered yet again

1057
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.119
because of the bone and well, we.

1058
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:46.880
Know in Discovery that there were thirty two houses, right,

1059
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:49.680
so we started at thirty two and we was it

1060
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:51.479
at thirty two or was it twenty four? Gym, I

1061
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:56.479
can't remember twenty four? Sorry? Sorry, twenty four houses? We

1062
01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:58.760
so it sounds like two thirds of the houses have

1063
01:08:58.920 --> 01:08:59.479
died out.

1064
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:02.439
In the life or just out there being nomadic like

1065
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:05.560
the rest of them. Possibly, I mean a lot can happen,

1066
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:11.319
so to me, yeah, this particular episode, I I don't know,

1067
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:13.760
there's just something I can't quite put my finger on

1068
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:16.239
it yet. I mean, if I keep watching it, maybe

1069
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.760
I'll discover it. But it was a little tough for

1070
01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:23.039
me to get through because I'm just like, I just

1071
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:26.039
can't get over this high school drama. It's just something

1072
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:29.680
about me I just can't stand. So to me, I'm

1073
01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:32.279
definitely gonna probably give this episode a little bit better

1074
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:35.119
score than that were originally gonna give it. So it's

1075
01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:39.720
because you guys are hyping me off about it. But yeah,

1076
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:45.199
I like the thought thing that clean on Battle I

1077
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.439
did not really enjoy so much, because to me, I

1078
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:54.079
felt like that was a little a little strange how

1079
01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:56.159
they handled that. It just to me, it kind of

1080
01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:58.840
went by a little too fast. But other than that,

1081
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:02.800
I'm have to give this one a seven.

1082
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:08.720
So yeah, all right, So Paul, you started us off

1083
01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:10.439
with that excellent synopsis.

1084
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:15.319
You heard everybody else's scores an opinion, so wrap up

1085
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:15.720
for us.

1086
01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:18.479
Okay, let's not beat a dead horse, right, because we've

1087
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:20.479
kind of been over a lot of the same ground

1088
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:24.439
and peppered with the equal dextures of minutia here and there.

1089
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:28.399
So real quickly though, this whole thing with the Jaden

1090
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:32.039
intimacy scene that everyone's hung up on, I just got

1091
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.960
to point out, guys, I don't know that folks are

1092
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:37.840
aware of a culture from New Zealand called the Maori

1093
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:42.000
at all. It's a warrior culture, but that is a

1094
01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:44.600
lot of what's going on with these two. I mean

1095
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:48.199
that is very clearly, uh you know, evoking in Maori

1096
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.199
what's called the hakka, right, this kind of battle breathing thing.

1097
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:55.119
It is a focused ritual of like energy to help

1098
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:58.920
prepare yourself and energize yourself as a warrior. Right, So

1099
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:01.520
if you are really freaked out by this, and you

1100
01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:03.720
think this is kind of a homoerotic thing going on.

1101
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.560
Maybe check yourself and look into, like, you know, the

1102
01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:13.439
Hakka and Maori and New Zealand culture of the indigenous

1103
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.840
people who live there and not be so uptight would

1104
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:20.680
be what I would recommend. So enough of that, though,

1105
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:25.159
I really think that this was a phenomenal showcase for

1106
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:30.159
the actor Karen Dane, who plays Jaden Crag Jaden, Let's

1107
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:32.119
let's get that right from here on, and he's a

1108
01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:35.560
major character. It's Jaden, Okay, I think we should all

1109
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:39.039
really work on that. He did a phenomenal job as

1110
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:40.479
an actor in this work.

1111
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:40.720
Right.

1112
01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:44.520
There's a scene where he goes into an ala Ake's office, right,

1113
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:47.319
and she's telling him everything that happened, right, you know,

1114
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:51.319
about the potential loss of his family, right, and she's like, hey,

1115
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:53.119
this is gonna be really hard for you, right, you

1116
01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:55.279
know you you know, we understand if you want to

1117
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:59.119
take some time off, right, And there is a moment

1118
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:01.880
where he delivers a line. At first you think he's

1119
01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:05.359
telling her off right, She's like, you can leave if

1120
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:08.640
you want to, and he goes I said goodbye, And

1121
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.399
you think that he's telling her off, but then he

1122
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.520
continues the line He's like, I said goodbye to my

1123
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:18.000
family a long time ago, right, And you think he's

1124
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:20.920
throwing that at her kind of you a hostile way,

1125
01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:24.479
but he's actually talking about his family. But it's just

1126
01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:27.720
the way he played both sides of that emotionally was

1127
01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.680
just absolutely amazing. He did a phenomenal job for this

1128
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:35.560
entire episode. I love that it was all about giving

1129
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:39.039
his identity a chance to come full circle and accept

1130
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:42.000
who he is and accept his place in Klingon culture

1131
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:47.720
and speak and using his confidence that he's able to

1132
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:51.239
find through debate and public speaking to actually be a

1133
01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:54.159
voice for the part of his Klingon culture. He doesn't

1134
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:57.840
feel anyone hears right that it's just not about you know,

1135
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.800
it's not for the Federation's place to decide for us, right,

1136
01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:06.399
and the Federation through Nala ake right as Chancellor, we

1137
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:08.199
see them do this very similar thing that they did

1138
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:14.119
when they were trying to get the Beta Z coalition together, right,

1139
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:17.159
meet them on their terms. Like Eric was saying, right,

1140
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:19.960
it's just like dot don't insist that they do your

1141
01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:22.960
way of doing things, acknowledge and do things their way.

1142
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:25.960
It's a form of respect, which I don't think we

1143
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:28.399
are seeing a lot of anymore these days. So I

1144
01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:31.960
thought that was just sensational writing. Eric pointed that out,

1145
01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:34.359
and I think it's a really important point to talk

1146
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:38.399
about because there's so much respect and it's you're not

1147
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.720
hitting people over the head with the writing here either.

1148
01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:44.479
It's done in a very deft and a seamless way.

1149
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:49.079
Points for the folks and the production team. When the

1150
01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:53.880
show began, the CBS Studios production logo was in part

1151
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:56.960
kling On graphic font. I don't know if anyone noticed that,

1152
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.279
but that was really somewhat delightful. I thought that Uncle

1153
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:01.359
Jim caught that right.

1154
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:02.119
That was great.

1155
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:07.479
And again, Jaden's pacifist, a pacifist plan. It's phenomenal, right.

1156
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:09.920
I think it's really interesting to try something like that, right,

1157
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.720
I mean, he's got his own character, right, I'm one

1158
01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:15.680
of anything that didn't die in fair fight. I think

1159
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:21.000
that's phenomenal. At one point, when his father says but

1160
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:24.159
aware of Romulins, but aware of Klingon's bearing gifts, kind

1161
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:27.880
of you know, evokes that whole McCoy line aware of

1162
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:29.479
Romulin's bearing.

1163
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:30.439
Gifts and Star trek too.

1164
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:33.920
So I just thought it was delightful, just super strong

1165
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:38.039
writing for me about something that matters, and when this show,

1166
01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:40.840
I think, is willing to look at current conditions that

1167
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:46.319
we are seeing in the world now diaspora, when someone's

1168
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:52.279
i mean, when someone's homeland has been destroyed, their people

1169
01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:54.399
are in need of an identity and trying to find

1170
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:58.439
their way, you know, dependent on the ability to communicate,

1171
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:01.560
the ability to make alliance, the ability to you know,

1172
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:05.960
be focused. Right, I just thought it splendid, did a

1173
01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:08.239
great job, and just every single person in the cast.

1174
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:09.760
I deleted an outstanding job.

1175
01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:14.600
So the nitpick about an episode with this much half

1176
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:17.960
to it, I think would just be folly, I think,

1177
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:23.239
And this is just outstanding work from everybody. And I

1178
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:25.600
will point this out to anybody who's like, if you

1179
01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:27.640
want to naysay and diss the show and think it's

1180
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:31.840
a kiddy show and we're uptight because you know it's

1181
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:34.239
a younger cast or whatever, you go for it. Right,

1182
01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.239
They've proven themselves several times in a row here right

1183
01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:38.600
now with this show, I think they're head in the

1184
01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:41.640
right direction. Super excited to wrap up this podcast and

1185
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:43.439
see what they have in store. For us tonight with

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01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:46.920
this new week's episode. So I have no hesitation. I

1187
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:50.439
think this one ranks among some of the greats, right,

1188
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:54.960
great episodes of next Gen original series. And I think

1189
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:57.119
a lot of people in our culture could really benefit

1190
01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:59.760
from watching this and learn about the MAJORI okay, because

1191
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:01.439
that's really what's going on in that scene.

1192
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:03.239
Out low.

1193
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:08.960
Yeah, people, it sells whoever you are, just stop learn

1194
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:13.199
so gratifying ten For me. I thought it was just splendid,

1195
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:17.039
wonderful work, and please keep making these kind of episodes.

1196
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:18.520
I think it's a lot.

1197
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:22.319
To offer and a huge amount of heart. Everyone who's

1198
01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:24.479
ever felt like they didn't belong in their culture or

1199
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:28.720
their family can relate to Jade and Cragg in this episode.

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01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:32.319
So I just very moved and appreciative of the work.

1201
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:39.680
All right, Childso hol with trucks fust Compared to our

1202
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:41.439
Facebook fans this week.

1203
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.600
Okay, well, the fans gave it a nine point two.

1204
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:50.239
Now I actually record two different scores. I probably know

1205
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:54.520
which one is going to get posted. Our actual score

1206
01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:58.119
was a nine point eight, but if we bring the

1207
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:01.159
elevens down, it comes to a nine point five.

1208
01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:06.000
Nine point five. They have it respectable.

1209
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:11.840
Respect yes, very What was the fans score again, Charles ninth.

1210
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:16.239
Nine point two.

1211
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:20.039
Okay, so we're just a little bit above the fans.

1212
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:23.159
That's great, that's excellent. I mean that resonates.

1213
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:25.079
I think that's so.

1214
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:28.359
That seems to say that people felt felt something from

1215
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:29.000
this episode.

1216
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:36.760
It spoke to people. Yeah, it's it was really good

1217
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:42.119
for sure. All right, guys, Well our evaluation, our discussion,

1218
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.359
our conversation on Starfleet Academy. And you know what time

1219
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:49.920
it is now it's time for star Trek birthdays, which.

1220
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:50.840
Means this.

1221
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:13.920
That was done Klon's song. No, and you guys noticed

1222
01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:16.760
that excellent video that David put together for us from

1223
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:17.560
his hospital.

1224
01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:24.800
Anyway, this is a part of the show where we

1225
01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:28.199
uh do our star Stark, but we always start out

1226
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:31.239
I sadly not remembering those members who are no longer

1227
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:33.600
let us for that returned here.

1228
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.960
Jim today, remember eight people who have gone before us

1229
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:41.359
in the sci fi realm. The first is actor David

1230
01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:46.640
Optashu born David Opatowski. He was the actor who played

1231
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:49.119
on On seven in the TuS first season episode A

1232
01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:53.920
Taste of Armageddon. He was originally considered by Gene Roddenberry

1233
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:57.119
for the role of doctor Phil Boyce in The Cage,

1234
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:01.000
but of course that didn't happen. He was also cast

1235
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:04.239
for an unspecified role in the Next Generation, but fell

1236
01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:08.600
ill and that part was recast. So unfortunately we only

1237
01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:12.520
got one instance of David, but it was a good one.

1238
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:15.399
This man had a career that spanned over five decades,

1239
01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:18.880
almost one hundred television guest appearances in forty five movies

1240
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:24.079
and television roles, and he put his knowledge of Yiddish

1241
01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:28.039
to good use, often playing Jewish and Arabic characters. So

1242
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:32.520
thank you so much, David Optashu for your contributions. We

1243
01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:35.800
lost him back in nineteen ninety six. Happy birthday to David.

1244
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:42.279
Happy birthday to James Franciscus. Not a Star Trek alumni,

1245
01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:44.560
but he was, of course the American actor from Clayton,

1246
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:47.479
Missouri who played the role of Brent and Beneath the

1247
01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:52.399
Planet of the Apes. Producers partially chose Franciscos because they

1248
01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:56.960
believed he physically resembled his predecessor, Charlton Heston. And I

1249
01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:59.159
think you can I think you can see that in

1250
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:01.239
a lot of these images is that we've got on

1251
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:03.560
the screen here. So James Franciscus, thank you so much

1252
01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:07.960
for your science fiction contributions. We appreciate it. Lost back

1253
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.399
in nineteen ninety one, Happy birthday as well to bb Besh,

1254
01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:15.399
best known to Star Trek fans for playing the role

1255
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:18.600
of doctor Carol Marcus in Star Trek two, The Wrath

1256
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:21.800
of Khan. Also, I believe Star Trek three, didn't she

1257
01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:24.399
in that movie too. Born in Vienna, which was then

1258
01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:30.680
annexed to Nazi Germany, as Bibiana Maria Clcert, she immigrated

1259
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:33.279
with her family to the United States after World War Two.

1260
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.720
Big soap opera fan back in the sixties and seventies,

1261
01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:41.000
but then after Star Trek two, she re teamed up

1262
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:43.479
with our good friend Nicholas Meyer. That's right front of

1263
01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:46.840
the show on the acclaimed Jarring made for TV film

1264
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:49.880
that still gives me nightmares to this day. A day

1265
01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:55.560
after she received one Emmy nomination as an Outstanding Supporting

1266
01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:59.079
Actress for the TV special doing time on Maple Drive

1267
01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:02.800
as well, she was also on Northern Exposure. Pretty good show.

1268
01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:05.479
Bib Besh, thank you so much for your contributions to

1269
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:08.399
Star Trek and beyond Lost way too young at the

1270
01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:12.079
age of fifty four years old, back in nineteen ninety six.

1271
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:16.399
Happy birthday to Paul Wallace Carr, the American actor who

1272
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:19.880
portrayed Lieutenant Lee Kelso in the TOS for season episode

1273
01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:23.279
Where No Man Has Gone Before. Broke in acting back

1274
01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:26.359
in nineteen fifty five and made well over a hundred

1275
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:31.560
television guest appearances, eight regular series roles, about thirty film roles,

1276
01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:36.399
and a number of plays. But something that he's actually

1277
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:39.159
kind of better known for are his voice credits.

1278
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:39.520
Yeah.

1279
01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:44.479
They include roles like Matsuoka in the Japanese anime film

1280
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:49.840
Ghosts in the Shell standalone Complex and Screaming Mad George,

1281
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:52.920
the special effects wizard for science fiction horror films such

1282
01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:56.960
as Bride of Re Animator Yes, starring Jeffrey Comes just

1283
01:21:57.039 --> 01:21:59.239
as Back in the Day, as well as the voice

1284
01:21:59.319 --> 01:22:03.199
of school Ad in the Japanese anime film Blood the

1285
01:22:03.479 --> 01:22:07.680
Last Vampire. Thanks Paul for your contributions to Star Trek

1286
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:13.000
and anime. Happy birthday, Happy birthday as well to Farah Fawcett,

1287
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:15.560
a name that I think almost everybody who grew up

1288
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:17.920
during the nineteen seventies and eighties knows. She, of course,

1289
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:21.680
was the American actress and artist who played Holly thirteen

1290
01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:25.520
in the nineteen seventy six film Logan's Run Wouldn't Know

1291
01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:29.840
Still Haven't Seen It? Alex in Saturn three is best

1292
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:34.119
known as Jill Monroe in the first season of Charlie's Angels. Yes, okay,

1293
01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:38.239
I remember her from Charlie's Angels for sure. Watch that

1294
01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:41.399
show every single week. I thought it was great. The hair,

1295
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:44.640
the eyes. Are you kidding me? Farah Fawcett, a real

1296
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.560
icon of that era. Happy birthday to her. Happy birthday

1297
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:53.720
to John Donald Fieldler, the shrill voiced, bald, hated actor

1298
01:22:53.800 --> 01:23:00.279
who played mister Hengist Hingist in the cost second seasonisode

1299
01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:02.119
Wolf in the Fold. I remember his face, but not

1300
01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:05.319
how they pronounced his name. He left behind, of course,

1301
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:09.720
an extraordinary career spanning fifty five years with nearly two

1302
01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:15.199
hundred film and television credits. Best remembered in his later

1303
01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:18.680
years as mister Peter Peterson on the CBS comedy series

1304
01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:22.880
The Bob Newhart Show. He gave his voice to the

1305
01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:28.159
beloved character of Piglet in myriad Disney animated Winnie the

1306
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:33.920
Pooh Adventures. And despite these roles, and despite having appeared

1307
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:37.479
opposite lots and lots of really really famous people. He

1308
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:41.640
said that in a nineteen eighty five interview today on

1309
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:44.760
NBC's Today's Show, he said, one of my favorite parts

1310
01:23:44.840 --> 01:23:47.760
was an episode of Star Trek where I played Jack

1311
01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:51.039
the Ripper. So so many things this guy accomplished, but

1312
01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:54.840
he loved his Star Trek appearance. Happy birthday to John Fieldler,

1313
01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:58.520
Happy birthday to Sam Gilman. The actor who played Doc

1314
01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:02.600
Holliday in the TOI third season episode Specter of the Gun.

1315
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:07.239
Appeared in several films opposite Marlon Brando. Actually appeared in

1316
01:24:07.319 --> 01:24:10.840
some stuff with defores Kelly two Along the Way, but

1317
01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:13.720
was in the Wild One from nineteen fifty three, a

1318
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:17.680
really really great film, and that same year appeared in

1319
01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:22.640
the biblical epic The Robes, starring guess who Gene Simmons.

1320
01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:25.079
Not that one, Jim. We're gonna talk about her in

1321
01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:30.239
a minute. Gilan made guest appearances on television series like

1322
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:34.520
The Untouchables, Gun Smoke, The Lifetimes of White Ear, etc.

1323
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:37.920
So Sam Gilman, you can tell that mustache is totally kicking.

1324
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.640
He's a Western guy through him through. Happy Birthday to Sam. Last,

1325
01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:45.560
but not least, I would like to offer my sincere

1326
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:48.560
birthday wishes, and I wish I could have met hers

1327
01:24:48.680 --> 01:24:53.600
to Jean Merlin Maryland. Excuse me, Gene Maryland. She spells

1328
01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:56.760
it kind of funny. Simmons the British actress who played

1329
01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:59.720
the retired Rear Admiral Norris at t in the next

1330
01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:03.880
year four season episode The Drumhead. Over the course of

1331
01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:08.279
her career, she received two Academy Award nominations, two Emmy

1332
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:12.159
Award nominations, winning one of those, two Golden Globes, five

1333
01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:18.359
Golden Globe nominations, and two BAFTA Awards. So talented, So

1334
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:22.520
so talented. The nineteen eighties, she appeared primarily in television programs,

1335
01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:26.600
winning an Emmy Award and Golden Globe for her portrayal

1336
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:31.960
of Fiona phi Cleary and ABC's acclaimed mini series The

1337
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:36.960
thorn Birds, which weirdly was like way above how old

1338
01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.119
I was when it came out. But I remember when

1339
01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:41.479
that came out and it was kind of racing, right,

1340
01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:42.960
I remember that.

1341
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:48.760
Yes, Richard Hamberlain, Yes, Richard Chamberlain.

1342
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:49.840
Yes, yes.

1343
01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:54.399
Simmons was also in North and the South from that era,

1344
01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:57.239
which I know y'all remember, Like that was just this

1345
01:25:57.479 --> 01:26:02.199
huge epic. She was all so in the reimagining of

1346
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:05.840
the Gothic soap opera Dark Shadows from nineteen ninety one.

1347
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:08.399
So there are so many reasons to love what Gene

1348
01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:11.000
Simmons has done in the acting world. I'll just say,

1349
01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:13.840
happy birthday. I wish I could have met you, gal,

1350
01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:17.000
I'm sure you were a super cool lady. Happy birthday

1351
01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:21.119
to Jean Marilyn Simmons. And sorry that took a long time,

1352
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.439
but it was worth it. Happy birthday. I'm going to

1353
01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:26.840
pass this flaming birthday candle over to be.

1354
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:30.840
I wanted to add with Farah Fawcett. Does anybody remember

1355
01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:33.880
when she was rather sort of briefly married to Lee

1356
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:38.199
Majors and she was known as Farah Fawson Majors. So

1357
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:43.399
and of course, yeah, yeah, so the six Million Dollar Man,

1358
01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:47.000
which led also to one of my favorite shows, The

1359
01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:52.560
Bionic Woman, So that whole thing. So that's kind of

1360
01:26:52.840 --> 01:26:57.760
sci fi related. So I am going to wish a

1361
01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:03.279
very happy birthday to Daphne Ashbrook. And I just watched

1362
01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:07.439
this episode. I watched it fairly regularly since DS nine

1363
01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:09.840
is pretty much on you know, I have it on

1364
01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:14.359
Pluto TV app and it just runs constantly. But she

1365
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:20.199
played Melaura Paslar in the DS nine second season episode Melaura,

1366
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:25.399
where she was Robert Bristly to Doctor Basher at first,

1367
01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:28.960
but she had lived in a she was somebody from

1368
01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:33.119
a a low gravity world and so that was kind

1369
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:38.920
of interesting. Now she is recognized apparently as the eighth

1370
01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:46.680
Doctor's companion, doctor Grace Allaway. So happy birthday to Daphne. Next,

1371
01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:52.840
Happy birthday to Paul Sheer, American actor, comedian, writer, producer, director,

1372
01:27:52.960 --> 01:28:00.079
and podcaster who portrayed Andy Billips on Lower Decks, one

1373
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.720
of our favorite characters. He's such a goober on that,

1374
01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:06.960
so he did that very well. He's married to actress

1375
01:28:07.159 --> 01:28:13.359
June Raphael, who voiced his character's mother, Paulana in the

1376
01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:20.239
second season episode Where Pleasant Fountains Lie. So happy birthday

1377
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:25.039
to you, Paul. Next, Happy birthday to Richard Lineback, he

1378
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:30.680
played Romas in the TNG for season episode Symbiosis. Selen

1379
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:35.920
appears in DS nine first season episode Dax and Kessick

1380
01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:42.680
in enterprise third season episode The Zindi. Next, here's a

1381
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:47.960
special happy birthday to Brent J. Speiner, who pretty much

1382
01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:53.640
constantly hits on me on Facebook, always say hey, send

1383
01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:56.119
me a private message. I want to talk to you

1384
01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:02.479
for whatever reason anyway. But of course, he was known

1385
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:08.880
for playing the android starfleet officer Lieutenant Commander Data on

1386
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:14.079
TNG in four Star Trek films, several episodes of Picard,

1387
01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:18.600
and offscreen in these are the Voyages. He also played

1388
01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:24.119
Data's brother law and father, doctor Nounian Sung in various

1389
01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:28.479
episodes of TNG. In two thousand and two, he played

1390
01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:33.479
be four in Star Trek Nemesis. He appeared as Eric

1391
01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:37.680
Sung in a three episode arc on Enterprise, as Alton

1392
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:42.439
Sung and Adam Sung on Picard and an alternate version

1393
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:46.560
of Data on Lower Decks. He's also known for playing

1394
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:53.079
doctor o'coun in Independence Day and the sequel Resurgence, and

1395
01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:57.359
some of us may remember him early on when he

1396
01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:02.560
was on Night Court. Also starred what's his name now?

1397
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.920
I just went out of my head John lear Riquette,

1398
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:11.359
who was the klingon in h Breath of con Or

1399
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:11.680
was it?

1400
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:11.880
No?

1401
01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:12.319
It was?

1402
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:16.800
Sorry? Search for stock anyway, So there's that connection. So

1403
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:20.600
happy birthday to him, and just leave me. Stop bugging

1404
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:28.039
me on Facebook. Okay, I'm just not interested, dude. Of course,

1405
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:33.039
I I mean, I mean, of course, I know it's

1406
01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:35.560
always scammers. But it's just out of all the ones,

1407
01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:38.680
it's just always Prince Spiner. If I ever have to,

1408
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:40.439
if I ever get to meet him, I have to

1409
01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:43.159
tell him that because probably get a kick out of that.

1410
01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:46.720
Okay, it's so great. You wouldn't believe how many times

1411
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:47.199
you've hit him.

1412
01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:51.840
Yeah right, I mean, out of all the famous people,

1413
01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:56.880
he's the one. Yeah. Anyway, So anyway, the last, but

1414
01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:01.640
not least, Happy birthday to Caitlin Hopkins, who played Kalana

1415
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:06.960
India's nine fifth season episode The Ship. She also appeared

1416
01:31:07.239 --> 01:31:13.119
in Voyager sixth sixth season episode Live Fast in and

1417
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This Sorry, Live Fast and Prosper as Dala or she.

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01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:20.520
She? What is it?

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01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:24.279
She was a fake Jane Way that's right anyway, So

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01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:27.880
happy birthday, all right now I send the flaming birthday

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01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:33.279
candle of uh whatever to Paul I.

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01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:33.880
Sorry.

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01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:45.760
I just hope that at some point we're able to

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01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:48.439
get Ve to shed her inhibitions and come out of

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01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:55.439
her shell and start expressing herself. Now, just think about

1426
01:31:55.479 --> 01:32:01.079
it for future on social media as well. You're very restrained.

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01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:03.640
I don't know anyhow, Let's get this.

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01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:06.520
The social media is the best. If you're not on

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01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:08.239
her page you need to get on it.

1430
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.520
If you don't, if you feel that there's not enough

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01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:14.359
profanity in your life, maybe follow the socials.

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01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:16.039
That would be what I would recommend.

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01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:18.399
You'll learn a few of that inside.

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01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:22.039
Hey, I use I'm trying to use asterisks. I'm not

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01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:27.520
always writing the words I try. It depends on its.

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01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:28.640
Okay my mood.

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01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:29.880
You're not fooling anybody.

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01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:34.000
I have a lot of.

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01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:40.800
There's a lot of press pressed rage.

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01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:47.119
Yeah, I think you have a lot of express Let's

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01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:50.279
continue on. Let's give a birthday reading to a member

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01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:51.960
of our Starfleet Academy friend.

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01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:52.560
Okay.

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01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:58.600
Rebecca Quinn is actress, are you ready? Professional wrestler who

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01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:03.960
plays Lieutenant mc yeah in the Star Trek Starfleet Academy

1446
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:06.520
first season episodes with Kids These Days and Vox and

1447
01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:07.560
Excelso which.

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01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:08.439
We were just chatting about.

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01:33:08.680 --> 01:33:12.680
Also known by her in the ring name Becky Lynch.

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01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:17.039
That'll strike terror into the hearts of her opponent's, won't it.

1451
01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:20.000
But anyhow, Rebecca Quinn ak Becky Lynch is a new

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01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:22.039
member of Star Trek. Let's hope we see a lot

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01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:24.159
more of her as a recurring character on the Bridge.

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01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:29.760
Happy birthday to Villene Caine, Irish actors who played Lyra Riso,

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01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:33.600
not Jin Erso, but Lyra Riso in Roguana Star Wars

1456
01:33:33.720 --> 01:33:36.520
story On television, she gained prominence through her role as

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01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:40.279
Rose Stagg in the BBC two series The Fall. So

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01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:45.520
Hello and welcome Bileen. Very cool first name, very happy

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01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:49.079
birthday indeed, and please don't hurt me. Beg you don't

1460
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:56.439
hurt me. Legendary Jonathan Banks okay, who we acknowledge on

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01:33:57.439 --> 01:34:00.920
Star Trek for playing a Golden Shell in Deep Space

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01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:05.399
nine's first season episode battle Lines, but of course gained

1463
01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:11.279
international renown and eternal prominence as Hitman and fix Their

1464
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:16.600
Mike Ermantrout on the television series Breaking Bad and his

1465
01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:21.600
subsequent work on Better Call Saw. What a scary mobo

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01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:24.520
you can be when you want to be Jonathan Banks,

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01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:27.479
I have seen if you really want to go on

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01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:29.079
a rabbit hunt. I'm not going to go into a

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01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:31.880
great detail. Go look at some of Jonathan Banks's early

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01:34:32.039 --> 01:34:35.359
commercial television work when he was doing the TV commercials

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01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:39.880
on YouTube. There are some just riotous ones out there

1472
01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:42.680
when you know it is it's just just go Jonathan

1473
01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:45.840
Banks TV commercials and you will thank me later. But

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01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:50.800
Primetime Any winner for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series.

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01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:54.199
Been nominated more times than I can ever guess, but

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01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:57.039
he just brought the freaking grit to breaking bad. What

1477
01:34:57.199 --> 01:34:59.920
a great actor this guy is. I love seeing him

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01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:05.319
seeing work. He's just a real legend. Happy birthday to

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01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:09.520
Stephen mccattye, a Canadian actor who played a Vreenak in

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01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:12.560
Deep Space nine six season episode in the Pale Moonlight

1481
01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:15.479
and the alien Foreman in an Enterprise third season episode,

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01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:20.119
The Cindy. His will be regarded as Internet fame for

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01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:25.560
delivery of Freena's line on Deep Space nine that forever

1484
01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:31.199
made him a meme. Lord, he has become like an

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01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:33.560
enduring Star Trek. Mean, you can just get no way

1486
01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:35.600
about him. I think he probably never had to buy

1487
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:37.760
a drink for the rest of your life, is my guest, Steven.

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01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:39.760
People will always be buying a drink wherever you go.

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01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:43.720
So a legend, to be sure. God, I love this person.

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01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:48.279
This next person is amazing. The luminous, wonderful, expressive and

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01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:53.640
favorite Jeanette Goldstein Okay, who we acknowledge for playing the

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01:35:53.720 --> 01:35:57.439
scientist officer board the Enterprise b in Star Trek generations.

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01:35:57.479 --> 01:36:01.239
But of course she really came out of the shoot

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01:36:02.039 --> 01:36:05.640
with Jim Cameron in his films, right, I mean Near Dark.

1495
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:08.479
She was in Near Dark. She just exploded when she

1496
01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:12.520
played Private Basquez and Aliens. Right, has there anyone ever

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01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:13.920
been psyching you for a man?

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01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:15.079
No? Have you?

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01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:18.039
I mean she was just the best man. Just get

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01:36:18.119 --> 01:36:20.680
to ask in every kind of name there and then

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01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:25.239
she was of course a stepmom Janelle and Terminator too,

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01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:29.800
you know, with the whole thing and the milk carton.

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01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:32.399
I mean, she's just the best, right. She is just

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01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:36.640
a phenomenal performer and people love her at conventions. I

1505
01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:39.119
have yet to meet her in person, but she's a wonderful,

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01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:43.520
engaging person and what a career. So freaking cool. So

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01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:47.520
happy birthday, Jeanette Goldstein. And Legend coming up next to

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01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:50.239
folks Legend, the science fiction Legend. I watched this guy

1509
01:36:50.359 --> 01:36:53.279
all the time on TV as a kid. Bill Moomey

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01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:58.239
aka Billy Moomeey if you will, actor from California, who

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01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:01.359
of course on star trek Ellen in Deep Space nine

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01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:04.720
seven season episode ce j A R. Five eight, and

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01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:08.880
Lanier in all five seasons of Bottle On five, which

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01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:10.800
is a great series that a lot of people don't

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01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:13.840
watch and don't know about and should ideally be restored.

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01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:17.359
But of course he is a sci fi guy. He

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01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:22.600
just does everything. He's a producer, director, actor, podcaster, doing everything.

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01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:27.960
But he is the iconic inhabitant of Will Robinson from

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01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:31.640
the sixties classic TV show Lost in Space. How many

1520
01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:36.319
scenes did this guy have to endure with Doctor Smith?

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01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:38.399
I will never be able to count. I don't.

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01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:40.560
I can't count that. I it's just crazy.

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01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:45.640
But so many Doctor Smith's scenes just endless, just oh Will,

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01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:48.000
the pay and the pain, it is just what a

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01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:51.359
great guy do'll mom Me is uh and just a legend,

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01:37:51.479 --> 01:37:55.920
a fixture of the science fiction community and frequent fan attendee.

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01:37:56.560 --> 01:38:01.800
So Will Robinson, we salute you, sir, and Uh. I

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01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:04.079
think there's still some people getting older by the minute

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01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:06.279
that they're just waiting in line to be acknowledged. So

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01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:07.640
I better pass this over Uncle Jim.

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01:38:09.560 --> 01:38:10.840
Well, thank you so much, Paul.

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01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:14.920
I have a couple of Klingons and rather ship could

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01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.199
be playing on it, so I want to start off

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01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:19.159
by saying I'm happy their day.

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01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:22.640
Christine Rose, the actress who played Draw on the TNG

1536
01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:26.119
six season episode birth Right Part One, and birth Right

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01:38:26.239 --> 01:38:29.800
Part two. He was born in Lynnwood, California, and graduated

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01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:36.239
from Stanford University. Christine and I also want to stay.

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01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:40.600
Happy Birthday to John Ship. He played the Klingon ambassador

1540
01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:43.239
that starts for the Voyage Home and starts with six

1541
01:38:43.720 --> 01:38:47.640
the Undiscovered Country. They also played part in the DS

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01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:51.479
nine second season episode The My Key Part two and

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01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:56.600
Doctor Antack and Enterprise four season episode Affliction and Divergence.

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01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:59.239
He's the guy that came up with the plastic surgery

1545
01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:01.279
to get the clean on their ridges back after they

1546
01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:05.840
all melted away. Happy Birthday to John shut that I believe.

1547
01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:09.319
I believe that was he? Not on the night court?

1548
01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:13.800
Was he the bailiff night that was?

1549
01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:19.840
That was Richard Richard Bull was on? Was it was

1550
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:20.439
the Bayless?

1551
01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:21.000
Different guy?

1552
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.239
I don't think different?

1553
01:39:25.840 --> 01:39:30.239
Uh yeah? The guy who played uh Richard or who

1554
01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:32.199
played Bull was named Richard Richard Mall.

1555
01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:32.720
That's right.

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01:39:33.119 --> 01:39:33.840
Post Yeah.

1557
01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:39.680
And last, not least on my list, we have Warwick Davis,

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01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:44.000
O b E. English actor and television presented. He played

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01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:48.520
the title character in Willow the Time film series, the

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01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:51.800
characters in the Star Wars film, most notably in the

1561
01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:57.840
Professor Phileas Wick in the Goblin get the in the

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01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:02.600
Harry Potter film series, and they also played Willow in

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01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:05.119
the short lived Willow TV series which was only the

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01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:08.960
time episodes but was pretty damn good. I do enjoy

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01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:13.239
it myself, and that my friends up our Star Trek birthday.

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01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:17.560
And now it's time for some Star Trek news. We

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01:40:17.680 --> 01:40:21.520
do not have a flashy video for Star Trek news.

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01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:28.439
We got to come up with one that any right, Okay.

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01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:35.520
Well, I love the title of this article. Shat's about

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01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:40.439
to get real in new Star Trek adjacent Super Bowl ad.

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01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:43.760
Oh boy, the internet is popping off with a bunch

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01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:47.239
of twenty twenty six Super Bowl ads, and between Kendall Jenner,

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01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:51.119
Kardashian's Curse and Budweiser's Eagle, is going to be hard

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01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:53.319
for other companies to get attention during the Big Game.

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01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:57.319
It's no surprise then, that kell Ogg's has broke out

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01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:01.640
the big guns or should I say, and got William

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01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:06.119
Shatner for a big Raisin Brand spot. Days after paparazzi

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01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:09.239
caught him eating cereal in his car at a stop

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01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:14.359
light staged I don't know, Raisin Brand has revealed that

1580
01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:17.520
shatt is about to get Real and an ad for

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01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:21.640
Super Bowl. Let me see LX. That's sixty right. We

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01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:24.520
only see the actor for a brief moment, which clearly

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01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:27.840
channels Star Trek as he's sitting in a captain's chair.

1584
01:41:28.399 --> 01:41:31.079
Shatner may not be the man to take the reins

1585
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:33.680
of the Star Trek franchise, but damn he can make

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01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:37.520
a great commercial. Remember how iconic his priceline ads were

1587
01:41:37.680 --> 01:41:39.640
back in the day and the comedic flair he could

1588
01:41:39.640 --> 01:41:44.560
bring simply by being himself. Of course, Shatner doesn't need

1589
01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:47.800
to rely on his Star Trek knowledge or lack thereof,

1590
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:51.279
because he has done a phenomenal job of creating his

1591
01:41:51.439 --> 01:41:55.119
own brand over the years. Playing William Shatner, the guy

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01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:57.960
from a sci fi series and a commercial is just

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01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:02.000
as valuable as pretending to be Captain Kirk, if not

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01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:05.720
more so. It's a brand like Kellogg's. Is a brand

1595
01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:09.399
like Kellogg's gonna go to over the top with its

1596
01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:13.399
promotion considering it's already a household name in the serial industry.

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01:42:13.960 --> 01:42:14.359
I don't know.

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01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:15.239
Well.

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01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:18.840
That said, I'm eager to see what this ad brings

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01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:22.279
to the table and whether Shatner can still sparkle amid

1601
01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:28.720
all the conversation tied to Super Bowl sixty. Uh, let's

1602
01:42:28.760 --> 01:42:30.319
take a look. Do we have a do we actually

1603
01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:31.720
have this commercial? Jim?

1604
01:42:32.359 --> 01:42:33.359
I do I have it?

1605
01:42:34.199 --> 01:42:35.319
I love it? All right, let's do it.

1606
01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:43.720
Well, Will Shadd here bringing fiber to the masses with

1607
01:42:43.880 --> 01:42:45.000
Kellogg's raising.

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01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:54.880
Beauty calls? Will Shad every darn day?

1609
01:42:56.720 --> 01:43:00.319
Well, bye, Will shadd in the house?

1610
01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:04.680
Uh, let me just say that suit he's wearing is

1611
01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:05.439
off the hook.

1612
01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:09.479
I want one of those bringing fibers to the master

1613
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:11.159
of Kellogg's Raisin.

1614
01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:21.000
Judy Coles, will shut every darn day?

1615
01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:25.880
Whoa bye, will Shot.

1616
01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:26.439
In the house.

1617
01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:29.079
Okay, Jim, take your finger off the button.

1618
01:43:31.159 --> 01:43:33.720
So so when I see when I he's going to

1619
01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:36.640
be at the Galaxy con next month, should I take

1620
01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:39.600
a box of Raisin pran and get him to sign it?

1621
01:43:40.439 --> 01:43:43.479
Oh my god, that is worth the.

1622
01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:53.800
Yeah. Oh my words.

1623
01:43:54.479 --> 01:44:02.920
Well okay, shouts about for get real. Wow hmm, I agree.

1624
01:44:03.239 --> 01:44:06.199
Okay, this is a story that is rather close to

1625
01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:11.960
my heart because of the yeah anyway. Star Trek actress

1626
01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:17.079
has backlash pushes the show's wokeness to warp speed. A

1627
01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:22.600
Star Trek actress has conti conservative backlash is pushing the

1628
01:44:22.680 --> 01:44:27.319
franchise to lean harder into what she calls its super

1629
01:44:27.560 --> 01:44:32.439
woke identity. Among the critics is White House Deputy chief

1630
01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:37.079
of Staff No sperat I mean Stephen Miller, who has

1631
01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:43.640
accused the franchise of abandoning its core audience. Gina Yuescher,

1632
01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:47.680
who plays Laura Thok Yeah in the new Paramount series

1633
01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:52.840
Star Trek Starfleet Academy, responded online. Of all of the

1634
01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:56.880
hatred coming at us is from fred I love this.

1635
01:44:57.079 --> 01:45:01.760
I love this woman, fragile, angry white talking about either

1636
01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:07.279
our non whiteness or our bodies. You, Sheer wrote in

1637
01:45:07.319 --> 01:45:11.640
an Instagram post. It's frankly ridiculous. I agree with you, Gina,

1638
01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:14.920
and it makes me want to lean even more into

1639
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:20.079
our wokeness. She added comments Miller made on X calling

1640
01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:24.760
the show tragic and suggesting creative control be handed to

1641
01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:28.640
William Shatner. Miller has been among critics online who have

1642
01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:34.640
questioned the show's emphasis on diversity, including varied body types, ethnicities,

1643
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:39.239
and sexual orientations. Yeah, tell me you've never seen the show, Stephen,

1644
01:45:40.359 --> 01:45:44.640
you have no clue anyway. In the series issues, character

1645
01:45:44.960 --> 01:45:49.840
is in a same sex relationship with Tig Nataro's jet Reno.

1646
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:55.880
Yashar also addresses her sexuality. I was practically born wearing

1647
01:45:55.920 --> 01:45:59.520
a tool belt, she said, adding but if you could

1648
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:05.600
choose your sexuality, why would we choose men? Burn Later,

1649
01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:09.720
she referred to herself on the show as a as

1650
01:46:09.760 --> 01:46:14.039
a space lesbian, adding we woke, WOKEI woki, super woke,

1651
01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:17.800
wokeust of the woke got I love that woman. Have

1652
01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:18.479
I mentioned that?

1653
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:23.880
You know what? They didn't say, she said, A cacophony

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01:46:24.119 --> 01:46:24.600
of woke.

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01:46:24.600 --> 01:46:27.880
Okay, right, yes, I like that. I love this woman.

1656
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:32.880
So Shecher has repeatedly embraced the show's woke label. She

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01:46:33.079 --> 01:46:36.880
defended the franchise during a CNN appearance, saying Star Trek

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01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:40.680
has been woke from day one, which if Stephen Miller

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01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:44.319
knew anything, he would know that woke is a good word.

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01:46:44.439 --> 01:46:47.439
It has been giving negative it has been given sorry,

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01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:51.640
negative connotations. But woke just means you're awake and aware

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01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:55.399
of everything that's going on in the world around you,

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01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:59.560
she said, And I'll add to quote Jane Fonda who

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01:46:59.720 --> 01:47:03.880
said woke basically means you give a damn about other people.

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So there you go, boom, all right, yeah, my job, Yes.

1666
01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:20.520
Oh yeah, all right, Paul, Story of the Evening.

1667
01:47:21.319 --> 01:47:24.920
Okay, so this headline says that Star Trek replaces Major

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01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:29.039
Barrett with Stephen Colbert as a Starfleet computer. What kind

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01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:33.119
of headline is that? Stephen Colbert is an unconventional casting

1670
01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:35.840
for Star Trek, but his role in Starfleet Academy is

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01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:40.000
unusually pivotal for the long running sci fi franchise. Best

1672
01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:43.119
known for his witty political satire and hosting talk shows,

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01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:47.399
he also routinely lends his talents to comedic actor. Even

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01:47:47.439 --> 01:47:50.880
though Starfleet Academy isn't a comedy, it does have moments

1675
01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:54.199
that allow Colbert to flex this muscle. He is featured

1676
01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:56.800
in every episode so far and is slated to return

1677
01:47:56.920 --> 01:48:00.000
for the remainder of season one. Although Star Trek's model

1678
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:02.359
an era has been far more willing to hire well

1679
01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:06.159
known actors than the classic shows ever were, bringing Colbert

1680
01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:09.439
aboard was still seen as uncharacteristic for the space opera

1681
01:48:10.119 --> 01:48:15.560
Space Opera, However, he has fulfilled his role very well

1682
01:48:15.720 --> 01:48:19.399
so far. Furthermore, the responsibility has been had, it comes

1683
01:48:19.439 --> 01:48:21.880
with a surprising amount of weight in the grand scheme

1684
01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:25.880
of the Star Trek universe. Rather than playing a physical character.

1685
01:48:26.439 --> 01:48:30.920
He voices the titular school's digital Dean. He can be

1686
01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:34.039
heard throughout the show at various points making various announcements

1687
01:48:34.159 --> 01:48:37.199
that the cadets need to be aware of. So the

1688
01:48:37.359 --> 01:48:40.600
Dean has largely been a form of comic relief. What

1689
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:44.119
he is saying is rarely relevant to the story at hand,

1690
01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:48.159
but instead allows colbert comic talents to shine in short

1691
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:52.560
bursts of world building dialogue. Colbert will never eclipse Barrett's

1692
01:48:52.600 --> 01:48:55.720
profile within the franchise, but he has done very well

1693
01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:58.960
in stepping into unfillable shoes. While Berrett's performance as the

1694
01:48:59.039 --> 01:49:03.640
computer was intentioned only robotic for understandable reasons, Colbert is

1695
01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:07.560
opted for a different approach. His Dean delivers the announcements

1696
01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:10.239
in a much more human, quirky way. This doesn't just

1697
01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:14.039
set him apart from MAJORL. Baron, but also suddenly establishes

1698
01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:16.800
how far technology and tastes have advanced by the time

1699
01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:20.239
of the thirty second century. That read like an AI

1700
01:49:20.319 --> 01:49:21.319
written news article.

1701
01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:21.880
Wow.

1702
01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:25.760
I will also mention that it makes no reference of

1703
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:27.880
all to what we just saw in the last episode

1704
01:49:27.960 --> 01:49:30.520
from last week that we were just talking about. When

1705
01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:34.159
Jaden is given that you know orb of Starfleet technology.

1706
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:37.920
It's it's like a recruit digital recruiting poster, you know.

1707
01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:41.359
It is the digital dean's voice who he hears that

1708
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:43.840
inspires him to follow his bank to the stars and

1709
01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:47.279
join Serta Fleet. So that's yet another Colbert bit in

1710
01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:50.920
that bit of folly work there. So pretty cool, I

1711
01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:53.199
would say, And I think it's working out really well

1712
01:49:53.279 --> 01:49:56.520
so far. It's not distracting at all like some celebrity

1713
01:49:56.560 --> 01:50:00.520
casting can be, and a nice side gig for Stephen

1714
01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:04.720
Colbert in the tenuous environment that late night talk show

1715
01:50:04.760 --> 01:50:07.960
hosting can be these days with so many medalsome.

1716
01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:08.960
Fox getting involved.

1717
01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:12.279
So anyhow, I think that might wrap up our news coverage,

1718
01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:14.600
unless we have a hidden news story I'm not privy to,

1719
01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:18.000
which is always possible. What do you say, poop Bob

1720
01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:20.039
nay Bob potentate.

1721
01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:26.840
Jim Well, I think that wraps up another awesome, incredible podcast.

1722
01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:30.960
I think we are done for tonight. We'll be back

1723
01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:33.560
next week, guys, don't you worry. We're going to have

1724
01:50:33.680 --> 01:50:37.119
the same battid, same bat channel. But before we go,

1725
01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:39.960
I want to say thank you so much to Paul.

1726
01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:43.640
We're having on and Trek talking with us tonight. Thank

1727
01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:44.600
you so much, Paul.

1728
01:50:45.159 --> 01:50:47.279
It's great, wonderful to have a really good piece of

1729
01:50:47.319 --> 01:50:51.399
writing to talk about, sensational episode. Excited to see what's next.

1730
01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:57.279
I agree, and thank you so much to Eric hanging

1731
01:50:57.319 --> 01:50:58.960
out and Shrek talking with us as well.

1732
01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:04.199
Thank you so much, Eric h absolutely, thank you all, and.

1733
01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:06.640
Thank you so much to Be for talking with us

1734
01:51:06.640 --> 01:51:06.960
as well.

1735
01:51:07.279 --> 01:51:10.079
Always as always, always a lot of fun.

1736
01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:19.399
So it is great path of characters we have. Yeah,

1737
01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:23.960
of course, thank you so much to David and welcome back.

1738
01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:29.800
Thank sure, it's been fun. And I'm just beginning my second.

1739
01:51:30.039 --> 01:51:37.680
Uh all right, and thank you so much the child

1740
01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:39.319
as well, talking.

1741
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:44.000
And as always, and I'll be.

1742
01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:47.920
An excellent host. Uncle Jem saying to everybody please they say,

1743
01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:52.119
can be good to each other. Ailing frequencies are closed.

1744
01:51:52.560 --> 01:51:54.960
Good night everybody, good night, live.

1745
01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:56.039
Long and prosper.

1746
01:51:58.920 --> 01:52:00.199
I'm ready for departure, sir.

1747
01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:06.920
Some problem righter, Just hoping this isn't the usual way

1748
01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:09.479
our missions will go, sir, Oh, no, number one.

1749
01:52:10.600 --> 01:52:15.600
I'm sure most will be much Yeah. Well, oh well

1750
01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:20.640
that's we gotta thank you so much and we'll see

1751
01:52:20.640 --> 01:52:23.279
you all next Greek bye bye,