Sept. 20, 2025

Episode 654 SNW- "New Life and New Civilizations" discussion

Episode 654 SNW- "New Life and New Civilizations" discussion
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In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the cohosts engage in a lively discussion about various aspects of Star Trek, including the cultural impact of The Simpsons, the cancellation of a guest appearance, and fan engagement through shoutouts. They delve into the connections between Doctor Who and Star Trek, and review the first three seasons of Strange New Worlds, highlighting standout episodes and critiquing the experimental nature of the latest season. In this episode, the hosts discuss the impact of the limited number of episodes on character and plot development in Star Trek's third season. They explore the varying humor styles that resonate with fans, the mixed fan reactions and ratings for the season finale, and the emotional connections that storytelling can create. The conversation also touches on the legacy of characters and the importance of remembering the actors who contributed to the franchise's rich history, culminating in a segment dedicated to Star Trek birthdays and remembrances. HIT IT!
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the series.

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Now. Well, good evening trek Is and Trekers around the globe.

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But it's Thursday, September eighteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to

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episode six hundred and fifty four of Trek Talking Wow

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six hundred and fifty four. I'm your most excellent host,

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Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast. Before I go too far,

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I'd like to go around and introduce you to my awesome,

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awesome trek experts. We'll start off with Paul Paul's out

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in Portland. How you doing tonight? Paul, Paul, I see

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your lips, but I don't hear your voice anymore. Let's

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try that way. There you go, loud and clear.

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Yeah, you know it's a I find that my First

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Amendment rights are under threat daily now, so that was

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probably what that was due to it because I felt

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momentarily threatened by somebody with a lack of vision, mister Stock,

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a lack of motivation. So I managed to rest the controls,

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rest the helm back because my voice must be heard, Spock, and.

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It is her loud and clear. And we also have Eric,

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he's also from Portland. How you doing, Eric?

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Doing pretty good?

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Man?

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I wish I could think of cool stuff to see.

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I'll just say I'm doing okay. I'm doing okay, I'm

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doing okay.

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And that's okay, that's fine. And uh, let's let's stick

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with our Portland theme and swing on over to David.

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He's our miracle worker. How are you doing tonight, David, I'm.

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Doing pretty good.

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Didn't for good?

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H you know, don't for good?

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Okay, all right, so you're pretty good.

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That if there's like an audition for a show later

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after the podcast, man.

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Get the part.

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Yeah, A lot of improv girls go.

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I have some man, but tonight is not working.

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We're uh, we're not going to go to Portland. We're

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going to go out there, Virgin. We're going to say

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hello to v How you doing tonight?

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Welcome to I have MUTI here again with me? So

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who will bank the bones of anybody who violates my

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first Amendment? Right there? You go?

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All right, that's cool.

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Excellent Simpsons fans, because I love the Simpsons.

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Yeah, I've got strong ties to Matt Greening. I love

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all of his shows. Even have a family member who works.

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With Really that's cool. And he's got yeah, the whole

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s Portland thing.

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Yeah, all of the Simpsons characters are named after streets

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in Portland. Y.

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Yeah. We actually have a Flanders on a on a

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brass plaque on one of our mates.

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That's awesome.

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That explains a lot right there.

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And the facts I know, Yeah, I believe. I frequently

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quote the h it's an old treehouse of horror with

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the Rene Education Center. When it's it's like just just

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just relax, let the hook do their work, you know,

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every type, that's what you have to do.

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So I was gonna say mine, and mine that I

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use frequently is every time I eat spicy food, I

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say my mouth tastes like bird.

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I'm in danger.

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Principle. That's what it is.

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A whole thing just on the.

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P going for the next two hours.

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They keep on predicting stuff for the future that's been happening,

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and it's just like, I don't know if Matt Groening.

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Particular prediction.

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Okay, well, guys, U I have to apologize because Chris

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Myers was going to be on with us place who

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played and some gamble on Strange New Worlds, and he

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was really excited to join us.

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We were all set, but unfortunately, as but fortunately for him,

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he ended a role in a play on Broadway and

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has to do his uh what do you call it

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rehearsals and whatnot?

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So yeah, and and he told us that that was

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the Buena Visa Social Club, which of course I know

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is a band. But then my wife tells me that

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they made a movie of the band too, and that

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the musical is a musical of the movie of the band.

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Anything about that, you know, I know, I just I

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love the band, but I just had no idea that.

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Respecting and turn it into multi media.

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It's like the idea in Hollywood is that, you know,

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Broadways revenue streams right, and Buenavista Social Club comic book

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Buenavistic Social Club.

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I think they were banned, so I got to look

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that up.

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Okay, I didn't know anything about it, so you know,

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I'm an you know what?

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You know what I say? I say, we should take

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a road trip and go see him. Uh you know

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Opening Night.

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New York. Yeah, probably it's a long drive.

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I rode a train almost well. I did wind up

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in New York because I missed my stop. But that's

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another story.

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So you missed your stop?

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Uh huh yeah, no.

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Sleeping, No, no, what happened?

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Okay. Amtrak has rules for the size of luggage you

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can bring onto the train. These college girls did not

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pay attention to it. They had these can I say?

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Can I say, as I'm here.

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Already? Did you.

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Only can be described?

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It's okay, I got.

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Mostly is going to talk for me. Okay. What I

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was trying to say, you weirdos, was that these girls

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had these big ass suitcases. They did not They were

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standing in the aisle. I was like literally four feet

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from the exit. When we pulled into the station. I

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could not get past them. They did not understand what

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I was trying to say. The train was trying to

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make up for lost time, for previous stops, so they

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stopped for like three seconds, which I could have gotten off,

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but I couldn't. The train takes off. I go to

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New York. Long story short, lots of swearing. No, I'm

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not going to repeat what I said and what I

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said to those girls because they thought it was hilarious

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and I what's that line that Garrick said?

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Uh uh?

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But I made several cutting remarks that will no doubt

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leave life as damage or something. I love garret lines,

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you know. Anyway, but I did thankfully make it back

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on a train. I just got on a random train

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that was supposed to be too back to the Newark,

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Penn station and luckily it actually went there.

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So wow, Okay, I'm glad you made it.

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I don't know how we're going the way.

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Excellent review last week.

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Thank you. I had so much fun. I had so

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much fun. I need to do it again. That's what

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I just want to do for the rest of my life.

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So it's just go to Star Trek comes and you know,

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just have fun.

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And yeah it is.

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I could do that. I really could. That one was

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so nice because it was so contained. I know there's

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anybody out there that that you know, wants to live

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like curiously through me and just pay for my trips.

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I will lastly do that because I want to make more.

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I want to make more CROs play outfits. I want

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to be Kai Winn. I want to be Sorella. I

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want to be able to do cling on weddings and

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be a like a legit person and recite that cool

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poem that she did when Warph and Genzia got married.

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Well, William Shatner is going to be at Trek connor

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Roga November twenty first and twenty second, So okay for

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the eight million, four hundred and eighty seven thousandth time.

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So uh you know, yeah, we'll see and I'm I

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wanted to.

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A lot of times, will miss these connections.

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Like it's okay, it's just like it's a lateral.

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Well you know because he because he wrote and directed

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Star Trek five.

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Oh yeah, I knew that was That's our first that

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was that was the one regret that I couldn't get

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to the mic in time. But he had to tell

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that dad gum story about getting food poisoning from fish,

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and they did not want to think of Shatner on

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the toilet puking and.

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I stay away from the fish, but I wanted.

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To tell him about our chatner says what segment, because

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he probably would have thought it was hilarious or we

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were insane, or either way us more likely that hopefully

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not hopefully not.

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Well. At any rate, we were going to have Chris

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Meyer on the podcast. He couldn't make it, so we

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had to throw something together real quick. And here we

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are throwing something together real quick.

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So this is what you get.

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Yeah, it's there professionalism.

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We are definitely going to be talking about the strange

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New World's finale, new life and new civilizations, and we're

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going to be able to give it its full going

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over naturally, which is cool. And we do have our

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fans shout outs, and that's a great segment. That's one

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of my favorite segments, and that's where we get to

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say thank you to fans just like you right there

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for listening to our podcast and putting up with us.

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So that's pretty awesome. I do have a couple of

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polls this week. You know, does Pelly you know doctor who?

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And who does she know? And Eric's going to answer

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that one for us later on. You don't want to

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miss that and now that season three has ended, what

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is your favorite season of Strange New Worlds? You'll have

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to stick around to find out what our fans had

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to say and what Star Trek actors do you share

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a birthday with. We'll find out on our Star Trek

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birthdays and what's going on around the Star Trek universe.

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Chattner says, what Kirk returns and the Klingons get a

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day off? I wonder what that could be about. So

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you're going to have to hang around if you want

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to find out. So that's what we have planned for

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you guys. Tonight. You can over to our Facebook page

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at Truk Talking and Beyond. At the top of the page,

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you'll see a pin post saying live long and prosper

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tell us where you're listening from leaves lots of dancing emojis.

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They get my attention. If you see your heart next

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to your name from yours truly, Uncle Jim, you are

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going to be featured in a future fan shout out.

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So Eric take away, you've got our fans shout out.

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All right, let's do it. Our first fan shout out

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goes out to Carlos Sanchez Montoya, who's saying hello to

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us from Quito, Ecuador. Is that one of those countries

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you've been to, Paul, I can't remember.

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Have you been at Ecuador, Costa Rica?

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Costa Rica?

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Okay, yeah, on Ecuador. I've heard good things though, I've

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heard it's amazing.

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Well, Carlos, I'm sure that you could tell us all

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about it. It would be great to have a little

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more detail from you. What's it like living down in Ecuador?

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How many Star Trek fans are there? How much do

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you love our podcast? Thank you so much for saying

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hello to us this week. We really appreciate it. Also

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saying hello this week to Joe McCloud of the Clan McCloud.

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Now that's in Scotland, sorry, Joe is hailing from Western Australia,

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sending us that wonderful Australian flag. You know, it's pretty

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far from the United States. It's a place I might

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want to visit and stay. McCloud, do you like it

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down there?

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I love and wombats. Some fact have square poop, so

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it doesn't there Burrows.

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Just if you've ever seen The Lord of the Rings,

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that's where Lembus bread came from, right it's you know, square.

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Wombat poop. That's how Proto and Sam cross.

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I love iris.

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I love it all right.

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Well, every animal in Australia wants to kill you.

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What I was going to say, don't they have like that?

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Do not? And the sad thing is that too many

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people don't pay attention to them. And because I follow

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these animal rescues, but I love all the animals, but

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it's just really kind of heartbreaking that so many people

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do so much work to take care of them, to

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nurse them back to health, and it's just really quite amazing.

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So if I ever went to Australia, I would just

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visit all the people that I've uh, you know, seen

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over over the internet on Facebook about you know, rescuing

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wombats and quacas and kangaroos and everything. Yeah, koalas and quacas.

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All right, anyway, I'm going to shut up now.

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No, No, I love it, and I would hope that

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you would think to bring us all back a sample

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of that square poo. I'd love to see that.

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I don't think you can export it out of the

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count I remember off the frog.

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Do you think it's possible?

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Can we trade ourselves to do that?

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Do you think we can if we are disciplined enough

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and studying geometry, can we can we train ourselves to

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boost grow.

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I feel like I've got you.

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See what happens? Okay, if Chris Myers is watching, see

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what happens when you don't show up? We just go

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all the hell here.

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That dude from Australia gets back in touch.

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Only well, yeah.

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Thank goodness. Joe McLeod got ahold of us and hasn't

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been scared off yet, So like.

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Fu Joe, all right?

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Also saying hello this week to Petra, a towny, a county.

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I believe I'm spelling or saying that correct. You're from Germany.

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That does not sound like a German last name. I'm

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pretty good with German names, so maybe that's I don't know,

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Italian or something. But Petra, thank you so much for

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saying hello to us. Regardless of where you live. We

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have a lot of support from people living in Germany.

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We always appreciate all of that love coming right from

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the middle of your up there. And last, but not least,

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we're saying hello this week to spend full full kill.

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Spends full kill, who is saying hello to us from Paderborn.

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You say, where's Paderborne. Well, we're going back to Germany again.

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So thank you spend so much for saying hello to us.

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Charles is not here, so v would you like to

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do the Charles fan shout out? Oh no you have,

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Well that's okay, why don't.

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You do both? Yeah, we have the top fan. K

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Miller McLeod from southern California, So greetings to you are

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top fan. That's wonderful.

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I believe that's Southern Carolina correctly.

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I mean you don't know what might do if you Okay,

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you know a time to put on your readers.

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I have windows. That's what happens when I'm when I'm tired,

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I tend to misread stuff. But uh so Southern Carolina.

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And I hope you like that good Carolina barbecue with

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the vinegar sauce, because that is the best anyway. Next

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we have Dave Mondane from Pittsburgh, PA USA. Pittsburgh named

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for William pitt the one member of Parliament who stood

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up and spoke on behalf of the colonies when they

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were having protests over the stampbacks in seventeen sixty five.

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So thank you to William Pitt. Then we have Jim

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Cole from the San Francisco Bay area. All right, so

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I wonder if he lives near Starfleet headquarters. Then Roger

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Enzor from Quitman, Mississippi. All right. So next, oh, we

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have rising fan Adam Hutchinson from Dayton, Ohio, USA. So

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thank you Adam for being a rising fan. Next Joey

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Kerr from Indiana. In Kisha from Memphis, Tennessee. What's a

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great music out of Memphis. And then certainly, last but

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not least, Alan J. Petal from Maryland. All right, Paul,

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onto you.

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Thank you.

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Charles, I mean, excuse me, put my readers on.

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It's not it's just we're off the rail child.

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Charles makes confusing comments.

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Then well, Charles, man, I need to I need to

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go see version or something.

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No, I just astro projected for a minute there. Sorry,

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it's so let's visit other parts of the Oh my gosh.

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Here we're going to sing he loa to our flag

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waving brethren. Lean is a zillion living in Colombia, and that.

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Sounds like a pretty exciting journey there, Leandro. So great

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to know that there is still star Trek available to

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view down in those southern hemispheres.

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Which is great.

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Happy hello, I was a happy birthday. I'm really out

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of it today and clearly but hello and welcome to

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Jose Salazar from Monterey, Mexico. Absolutely fantastic here from Jose.

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I love that there is a huge contingent of Star

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Trek fans in Mexico.

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Give it up the top.

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Fan, top fan Emilio gi A Nasi from Cordoba, Argentina.

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Top fans are folks who are.

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Engaging on our Facebook page all the time.

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If so, you would like.

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To be a top fan, engage on our Facebook page

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frequently and send a blank check to Uncle Jim care

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of PO Box sixteen sixty six, Rutland, Vermont h six

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oh two one five, and you could be a top

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fan as well. Oh wait a minute, there's one more

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person here, my brethren as well. Stuart Cook with an E.

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Stuart Cook with an E from Worcestershire, Shire from the UK,

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land of many exciting sauces and mispronunciations. I believe that

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is what Worcestershire Sire Worcestershire.

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Let me try it again.

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The state.

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Yeah, exactly, that's funny.

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You know, my wife is on vacasion and wors she

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was here, right, It's like you know, Worcestershire. It's like,

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you know, I don't know what to tell you, but yeah,

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it's yeah, a lot of vowels and consonants colliding. But anyhow,

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proof that we have Star Trek fans all over the place,

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South America, the UK, Germany, you name it, even in

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weird little you know, Banjo picking towns in the South.

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There are Star Trek fans everywhere. Isn't that right, Uncle Jim?

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I couldn't agree more. Paul, speaking of little towns, I'd

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like to say I held and thank you to Andrew Schletzler,

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who's listening to us in New Joys. Thank you for listening, Andrew.

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Also Alan Stevens, who's in Sanford, Maine. I believe that's

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where Stephen King is from.

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He's from Castle Rock, but.

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It's close enough. I saw you can throw.

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He's from banger Castle, the town that's in his books.

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Then there's something we made.

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Exist.

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I mean there's okay, I can't tell fact from fiction.

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You should know that every one of these stories takes

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place as Maine.

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So yeah, but he's a he's I believe Banger's elements

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where he was born, but that's where he has his hat.

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You know, I wonder if we could get him on

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the podcast. And we also want to say she's like,

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who's listening to us in West Virginia? U s A

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thank you, thank you so much. And last but not

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least on my list, Dana Morris who's in Toronto, Canada,

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thank you so much for being fans. If you guys

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would like to see yourselves on a future finish shout out,

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head over to our Facebook page, tell us where you're from,

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leave lots of emojis, and if you want to send

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us a picture and it'll be right up there on

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the screen with all these other great like there's Eric

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and I are Trek con Roga right now and your

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picture can be up there shared for the whole world

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to see Trek talking and beyond. All right, guys, that

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finishes up our fans shout outs, and now it's time

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to move on to some polls. You guys ready for

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some polls? All right? We got to play the polling

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song first.

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Thirty you know me like no win what you thought

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about the show?

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Then we try.

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Just share your opinion all of our minions out there

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because they listen worldwide. So tell us just what you think.

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Get together we will all.

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Drink canar and robulin an. I think I got an

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AI project for you, David. What we need to do,

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you see, is we need to get pictures of Uncle Jim,

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and then we need pictures of a horse, and we

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need kind of Uncle Jim like riding off into the distance.

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The video there you go, put him on the horse

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as sidebox from our trek five. It's a perfect AI

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project for you man.

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Al right, So, uh, we have a couple of polls

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this week, and David, you want to roll the tape.

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I'm just that Enterprise was able to be my right

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back to Earth and I'm glad we all get to

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be there for your promotion ceremony, Jersey.

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Additionally, we will take the opportunity to run ship wide diagnostics.

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Enterprises had a challenging few months.

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That is an understatement, challenging challenging.

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Remind me to tell you about the time I spent

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with the time challling doc.

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All right, so you saw the clip, Eric, what is

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the question?

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Well, the question is does Pellian know the doctor? And

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that's of course the doctor from doctor who the British

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television series, and of the responders to our poll say,

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heck yeat, Pelly knows the doctor. And given that this

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is the second Doctor Who reference we've had this season,

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the first of course being that there was an actual

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tardest hook up to the same little viny thing that

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was connected to the enterprise in the salat who Ate

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Its Tail, I would say I kind of have to agree.

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I mean, here she clearly pivots, you know, she's going

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to say something else, Pike gives her a look, and

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then she kind of comes up with this time traveling

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doctor thing. But is not every single half truth rooted

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in in truth? I think maybe she's like a hidden companion.

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Perhaps she's the companion for the fugitive doctor, because we've

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never seen that companion. Perhaps she's the companion of the

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war doctor. We've never seen that companion. So I know

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that none of you have any idea what I'm talking about.

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But if you're out there and you like Doctor Who,

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you know what I'm talking about. She's a hidden companion,

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I'm calling it.

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I was on you to tell us what doctor she knows?

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Was it? Tom Baker? Uh?

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Well, I think you know all of the assuming that

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all of the adventures that we know about all the

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other doctors have actually been seen on screen and we've

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never seen. I therefore have to pivot to doctors whose

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companions we've never seen. And so that's why I bring

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up the fugitive doctor from the alternate timeline. I bring

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up the war doctor from the other alternate timeline. You know,

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people have speculated about where Pellia comes from, how long

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she's been around, who she knows, all of that kind

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of stuff. So I see no reason why she can't

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know one of these other doctors whose companions you.

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Know she was.

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She was a roadie for what the Grateful.

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Dead, The Dead? I mean, what hasn't she I know?

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I know?

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And was she was she drunken that scene, because she

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seemed like she was definitely enjoying something.

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I kind of always half wonder if Pellia is just

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constantly drunk, she.

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Was stoned or something. I don't know. It's it's hilarious

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and I love I have some to love her. Didn't

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like her at first, but now I just yeah.

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Well I really want to hear an in like a

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modern view with Carol Kane and just see if she

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really just talks like that. Now, I'm not really I

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don't know.

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That's a good question.

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Well, I like her a lot now because we see

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less of her, you see more of Scottie, and the

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less we see her, they give her more impactful lines

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that that stick in your head than just mumbling like

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she did before. So yeah, yeah, I'm starting starting to

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like her more of the less we see her. So

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does anybody want to add have any anything to add

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to her? Knowing Doctor Who?

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I just say absolutely, yeah, yeah.

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I mean I I only know Jody Whitaker and so

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obviously we didn't see her on that series, so I

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can't really say anything about Doctor Who because I don't know.

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But Paul, Paul's a huge Doctor Who connoisseur, right, Paul.

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I'm from the old Tom Baker era, right, So I

483
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:02.519
know that. But but yeah, I'm happy to move on

484
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:06.000
from anything Pelly related. Am I the only one who

485
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:11.680
heard the Pelly ir related Starfleet Academy news? Did anyone

486
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:13.519
else hear that? Or Am I the only one who

487
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:19.599
heard that? I haven't heard, Yeah, the only one. I'm

488
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.400
breaking a story on the air right now. But you know,

489
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.160
Holly Hunter is like the head of Starfleet Academy right.

490
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.839
Right, acknowledge with verbal that's what they're saying.

491
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.759
Yeah, okay, yes, yes, apparently her.

492
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.440
Characters half Lanthonite is what they're saying, which I just

493
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:44.720
found out about. So there could be weirdness, but that's

494
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.599
a confirmed rumors, not really confirm fact.

495
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:48.400
So there you go.

496
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.920
So what if she's the daughter of Doctor Who and

497
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.839
pell cousin.

498
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:06.400
Maybe she's hashed from a gorn a from betel n

499
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.240
Wheel number that's what I was hoping. Really, the words

500
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:13.160
were literally trying to escape my mouth.

501
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:27.039
Syebok brought the Goran egg. There there you go. All right.

502
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.720
So that's our Pellia Doctor Who discussion, with a little

503
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.000
bit of Startrek five thrown in there just for some flavor.

504
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.519
And as you guys know, season three just wrapped up,

505
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.279
and there's been a lot of talk about season three,

506
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.279
so we have a pole question here. But before we

507
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.200
get to the pole question, it has been a very

508
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:53.160
very long time since season one and season two, so

509
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:58.400
I've asked David to put together a little reminder of

510
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.920
what season one was all about, so for us that

511
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.559
don't remember. So, David, you want to roll the tape

512
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:05.240
for season one?

513
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:21.200
Yep, I do.

514
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.000
Hi, right, interrupt.

515
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:42.079
This is your captain, our Russia, to chart the stars,

516
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:49.640
push the boundaries of what is known, what is.

517
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:54.359
Possible standing on the surface of a comet.

518
00:31:55.079 --> 00:32:04.480
I love this shop, these people, this crew. I believe

519
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:05.400
we can do anything.

520
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.880
We want to seek out new life, go where the

521
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:11.480
aliens are.

522
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.279
Your presence is bloasphemy. Let's talk about this.

523
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.839
Find some comfortable I think that went well.

524
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.119
Perhaps we should kiss. That seems logical.

525
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.759
Maybe we don't touch anything else, just a suggestion.

526
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.920
The whole future hangs in the balance. No one can

527
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:40.519
know the future.

528
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.279
One can only follow one's instincts.

529
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:48.319
Do the best to start with our ability to work together.

530
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:49.400
That's our greatest track.

531
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.599
Let's show them what you got?

532
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.799
All right? So that was the original trailer for season

533
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.839
one of Strange New Worlds, many many, many moons ago.

534
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.599
And before we move on, I wanted to ask my

535
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.759
trucks Berts, what was one of your favorite episodes from

536
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:20.440
season one?

537
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:25.319
Paul, Oh, gosh, season one A well, and that was

538
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:26.079
a long time ago.

539
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:27.240
Yeah, it was.

540
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:32.319
I would say probably for me, the one that it

541
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:39.359
sticks out the most. I think I really liked that

542
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.759
season one finale quality of mercy. I thought that was great.

543
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:44.599
I thought that held up really really well.

544
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:54.559
How about you, Eric, I don't hear Eric. We lost Eric?

545
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.160
Oh sorry about that. I like. For me, Strange New

546
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.119
Worlds has one of the best first episodes out there.

547
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.839
I really really liked the opening episode of the entire series.

548
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.239
Thought it was super star Turkey.

549
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.360
I agree completely that that was That was one of

550
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.360
the when when he turns, says hi and there's the

551
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.079
enterprise outside the window. I just that was a great

552
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:22.119
way to open up the series. How about you v season.

553
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.719
One, because it's been a while since I watched, I

554
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:29.159
can't remember. Is those old Scientists? Is that from season one?

555
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:30.159
Or is it two?

556
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.199
Season ye? Season two?

557
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:37.679
Okay, all right, well I'll agree that opening one was

558
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.400
just epic. That's my answer.

559
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.239
Yeah, let's see, we've got so just to refresh people's memories.

560
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.880
So here are the titles from season one. Strange New

561
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.559
Worlds is the First One. Episode two is Children of

562
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:53.719
the Comet, Episode three is Ghost of Aliria. Episode four

563
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:59.360
is Momento Moury. Episode five is spock Amook. Episode six

564
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:01.480
is lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach.

565
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.239
That one that was a child, that little kid that

566
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:05.119
got that.

567
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:08.119
That was incredible.

568
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.920
Episode seven was the Serene Squall with Captain Angel, and

569
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.280
episode eight was the Elysian Kingdom, the one with them

570
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.840
Benga's Daughter. Episode nine was All Those Who Wander, and

571
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.119
episode ten was a Quality of Mercy.

572
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.000
Okay, I'll change my answer to the Elysium Kingdom because

573
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.559
that was just beautifully done.

574
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:32.599
Well how about you, David?

575
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.400
Season one, Well, now here in all those episode I

576
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.360
do now remember, the Quality of Mochi was actually my

577
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.599
favorite one out of all of them. I'm assuming that

578
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.000
was the one where it was an alternate universe and

579
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:50.719
the Mulant kind of blew up the Starberry. That's one

580
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:51.400
I was thinking of.

581
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.639
I think, so, yeah, where Captain Kirk takes the all

582
00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.960
the ships.

583
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.079
Something, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I think that one would probably

584
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.880
my favorite. I actually like how they did the tear

585
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:09.639
wesh An honor for that particular role, so that would

586
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:10.119
pretty good.

587
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.599
And that's that's the episode where we find out that

588
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:19.000
Pike cannot sidestep his destiny because Spark will end up

589
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.800
in a bad place. That's when, Yeah, that's when Pike

590
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:28.079
has to accept it, which he'd wrestled with all season.

591
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.800
So that that was a really good one. All right.

592
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.079
So that's our season one picks. David, you want to

593
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.559
roll the tape for season two?

594
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:45.239
Someone said space is dark and cold. Our job is

595
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:50.360
to bring light, bring warmth, bring life to wherever we go.

596
00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:09.639
Uh oh, you're gonna start the engine sometimes sooner, Dorry.

597
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:11.880
I did this one hundred times during the war.

598
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.000
It's like riding a bike.

599
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.760
A sense of tension, the feeling that something's in the air.

600
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:38.320
My God, our job puts us up against death. We

601
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.239
might not like it, but we do have to face it.

602
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.039
Hold on your saddles.

603
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:53.800
We are excumegrass. It's easy to forget how awesome that is.

604
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.760
Most I have this crazy theory.

605
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:02.480
I love a crazy theory.

606
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:04.280
I do.

607
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.400
You know the odds of all of us being here

608
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:15.280
at this time?

609
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:20.400
It's improbable, Yet here we are together.

610
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:40.280
Surprise, Live, long and prospered.

611
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.119
Mister also live and.

612
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:48.599
All right.

613
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:50.679
So that was season two, Eric, What do we have?

614
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:51.519
In season two?

615
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:56.599
We had episode one, the Broken Circle, which is the

616
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:59.559
one where Newnians seeing compel Spot to disobey orders and

617
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.960
take the US enterprise. We've got ad Astra per Aspera

618
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.000
is episode two. It's a number one episode. Episode three

619
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.480
is Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow. The time travel episode. Episode

620
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:16.159
four is among the Lotus Eaters. Episode five is Charades,

621
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.480
the shuttle accident that leads to spots DNA being removed.

622
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.320
It's the Weird Human episode. Episode six is lost in

623
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:30.320
Translation where Uhura does the translating. Episode seven is Those

624
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.519
Old Scientists. Our crossover episode. Episode eight is Under the

625
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.000
Cloak of War. We're piking the crew. Welcome m. Kling

626
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.920
on Defector board the Enterprise. Episode nine is Subspace Rhapsody,

627
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.880
and episode ten is Hegemony Part one.

628
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.559
Wow, a lot of good ones there, Paul. What do

629
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.199
you think about season two? What's your favorite moments? What's

630
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:54.840
your favorite audio? Man audio?

631
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.480
Okay, yeah, okay, great second Season two is my favorite season.

632
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.639
I mean those are there's only one bad episode in

633
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:04.079
that whole list, right, So my favorite, I think is

634
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.599
gonna be just because gosh, it's tough. I mean, it's

635
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.360
for me. I can't just pick one. Because for me

636
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.760
it's Those Old Scientists and Subspace Rhapsody. I mean to

637
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.079
me that those two I cannot separate one being better

638
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.280
than the other. That's the show swinging for the fences

639
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:23.119
and really getting it right both times. You know, daring

640
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.320
to be different and being really well written at the

641
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:30.039
same time. I love those two episodes so much, how

642
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.000
about you, Eric.

643
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.159
I mean, I can't disagree. Both of those episodes are

644
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:36.840
really good. I think I'd tend towards the Subspace Rhapsody

645
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.320
just because I'm more of a musical guy. But since

646
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.199
Paul's already voted for those, I'm going to go for

647
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:42.960
Under the Cloak of War because I thought that was

648
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:47.079
also very excellent episode. I love the whole battle that

649
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.320
em Benga has with himself and the fact that at

650
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.239
the end of the episode we don't really know what happened.

651
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.079
I mean, we find out in season three, but just

652
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:54.199
just a great episode.

653
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.360
Well, Paul took my first two choices. Eric took my

654
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:07.079
first choice. I'm gonna go different. I'm gonna go with

655
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.920
the Broken Circle just because I loved the diversity of

656
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:13.079
Klingons in that episode, that there was a lot of

657
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:17.119
really cool Klingons in there, and so I'm gonna go

658
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:21.400
with Broken Circle. Although I hated the idea of of

659
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.800
Bohemian Rhapsody when they announced it, I just couldn't stand it.

660
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.159
Said it was gonna suck, and I was so wrong

661
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:29.960
because it turned out to be I think one of

662
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.559
the best episodes one of my and the dancing singing

663
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.639
Klingons at the end was hor playing General Karkak was phenomenal.

664
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:41.840
Uh so, yeah, that that would be my choice.

665
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.639
How about you, V Well, I'm gonna go with Paul

666
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.880
for those old clientists because I love Loward Deck and

667
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:55.039
the fact that Jack Quaid and Tony Newston look like

668
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.880
so much like their animated characters, and he did the

669
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.400
he Jack Quaide even did that section thirty one walk

670
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.480
in real life, which is not easy to do. That

671
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.800
cracked me up. And then uh the uh say Poe

672
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:19.440
Bohemian Rhapsody. Yeah, like that one too, Subspace Rhapsody because

673
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.920
seeing Celia Rose Gooding Akahura talk about that at the

674
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.400
con and how much she enjoyed it because she is

675
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:32.000
all about singing and so that was her like top

676
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:36.039
favorite episode to film. And then when somebody asked her

677
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:38.480
if they were gonna there would be more singing, she

678
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:41.920
said she couldn't either confirm nor deny, So who knows.

679
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.719
I'm assuming the Muppet episode, I don't know.

680
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.840
I'm looking forward to that because I love Mumps. I

681
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.840
love Muppets. I love muppets.

682
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.280
So all right, David, So that that swings it around

683
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:55.199
to you. Season two.

684
00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:00.760
Yeah, it's hard to decide whatever episode this guy would

685
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:05.599
be and probably would be my favorite, but other than that,

686
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.400
I actually have to say the old Scientist would probably

687
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:11.280
reach my top tier.

688
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.760
All right, So there you have it, guys. That's the

689
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:19.440
truck Spurts picks, which leaves us with only one season left.

690
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:31.039
Take someone said, space is dark, I'm cold. Our job

691
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.679
is to bring light, bring warmth, bring life to wherever

692
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:37.039
we go.

693
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.719
Is this a hidden situation?

694
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:41.719
That's whatever kind of a mature we want it to be.

695
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:46.639
This crew is a.

696
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:51.400
Team, the finest Starkling has to offer. It's possible they

697
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:52.320
don't know about us.

698
00:43:54.159 --> 00:44:01.079
They know about us.

699
00:43:57.960 --> 00:43:59.599
Evil in this universe.

700
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:01.760
The sure is there is good.

701
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.840
The choices you make in that share, they are yours

702
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:06.559
to make and yours to live with.

703
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:08.000
We await your orders.

704
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:13.719
Certain you don't trust me with your best friend, You

705
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.159
don't trust me with your baby brother.

706
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:15.920
It's madness.

707
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:34.239
You're just not this invasion. Prepare all weapons. We're going

708
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:35.840
to find our way out of this together.

709
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.119
It's one of those who we get it done. Rate

710
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:43.920
or don't blow ourselves up on the wail.

711
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:45.639
I like those odds.

712
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.000
We'll just turn it off before we blow up.

713
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.960
Give me five now down low? Why would you do that?

714
00:44:56.199 --> 00:45:05.360
Because you are too slow? I have it. That was

715
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.239
season three, Paul. What do you think about season three?

716
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.079
What's your favorite in New York? Why don't you tell

717
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:12.800
us the episode?

718
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.559
Oh? Sorry, yeah, I episode one, hed Gemony Part two,

719
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.559
the second half of that last episode last season. Then

720
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.960
we've got Wedding Bell Blues, Shuttle to Can four, the Zombie,

721
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.320
the episode a Space Adventure Hour, the Clue episode through

722
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:34.519
the Lens of Time, The Salot who Ate Its Tail?

723
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.840
What is Starfleet?

724
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:37.440
Four?

725
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.800
And a half fulcans Terrarium, And of course tonight we're

726
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.159
reviewing New Life and New Civilizations. Go for Paul.

727
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.440
Yeah, I've got a huge fan of this season. I

728
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.119
think there's a lot of missteps and a very clunky

729
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:51.239
bunch of episodes, but there are some standouts that are

730
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.280
really good, and I'm giving that episode number six, the

731
00:45:54.360 --> 00:46:00.599
Sealot who Ate Its Tail? That's really strong, tight, engaging,

732
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.480
well written, and it makes you want a lot more of.

733
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.519
Paul Wesley and the.

734
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:11.079
Original series characters in a new form reinvented for him,

735
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:13.280
which I think we were skeptical about. But that's a

736
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.360
good episode. I think that one bears up to repeat

737
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.039
viewing a lot of these do.

738
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.360
All right, how about you Eric? Season three?

739
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.159
Yeah? I mean this season definitely reads as a let's

740
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.119
try something different every episode and see what happens kind

741
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.599
of season. I'll say that I really dug episode nine Terrarium,

742
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:40.960
the Erica Ortega's episode. It had kind of a slow pace,

743
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.159
but it had high stakes. I know some people felt

744
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.280
like they had kind of seen that before and drew

745
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.079
a lot of similarities to movies like Enemy Mine and

746
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.679
that sort of stuff, but it felt fresh enough to me,

747
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.400
and I love me some Erica Ortegas, so I'll pick

748
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:55.400
that one as my favorite.

749
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:57.840
How about u V? What do you think?

750
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.119
Just because it made me laugh and I watched it

751
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:04.920
four times? Four and a half Vulcans just Pat and

752
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:08.480
the Ofwald as the Vulcan Doug. I don't care if

753
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:13.440
it was dopey and it wasn't star treky enough for me.

754
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.559
It was that it made me laugh in a time

755
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.280
where I desperately needed to laugh. So I'll go with

756
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.840
that one, all right.

757
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:22.760
How about you, David.

758
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:26.960
Yeah, I would almost have to agree with Paul there

759
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.840
that Shalahu aged tail putting back to your original characters,

760
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.679
just a feel of Die Trek, how they started to

761
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.239
adventure together. I think probably the strongest episode.

762
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.400
I would agree completely that was a great one. But

763
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.280
I have to I have to go with the Klingon

764
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:49.519
zombie episode because Bitha was so awesome. I think that

765
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.559
she was an incredible Klingon. And why am I bringing

766
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.119
that up because she's going to be on the podcast,

767
00:47:56.159 --> 00:48:01.039
So yeah, what is soccer? Yeah, I really enjoy her

768
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:04.280
version of a Klingon, and so I'm going to go

769
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:08.639
with that episode. So that wraps up my truck Spurts

770
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:11.519
and the three seasons of Star Trek. So that brings

771
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:14.920
us around to the question Eric, Actually there was a question.

772
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.800
Here was that was all preamble to a question which was,

773
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.679
of course, we asked our Facebook group of supporters which

774
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.880
one was your favorite season of Strange New Worlds. Forty

775
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.840
four percent said season one, thirty three said season two,

776
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.639
and only twenty three percent of our responders said that

777
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:35.360
season three was their favorite season.

778
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.960
Yeah, so they're in order. Season one was the best,

779
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.199
Season two was Okay, season three was the worst.

780
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.239
I mean, that's a bad trajectory. With two more seasons

781
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.679
on the dock had here, So hopefully we see a

782
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:50.519
little bit of an inflection point where it starts to

783
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:51.639
come back up in season four.

784
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.639
I think I think that one of the big reasons

785
00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:01.599
why season three is frowned upon is because, first of all,

786
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.400
I think that Subspace Rhapsody and those Old Scientists were

787
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:10.960
so successful that they decided, well, geez, we went with

788
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.519
these two episodes that were so off track, let's do

789
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:17.840
that more. And I think they overdid that whole do

790
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.280
something different, going a different direction thing, and they did

791
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:24.280
it too much and it just became worn out. Secondly,

792
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:28.400
I think that ten episodes is too short to cram

793
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.840
in what they did with character development when you don't

794
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:34.119
get to see the character development at One of the

795
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.320
interests I'm talking about is spot. He comes off as

796
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:41.880
a manharn. He just bounces around from you know, he's

797
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.800
first he's hanging out with Chapel and the next thing

798
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.119
you know, he's got his tongue in on throat and

799
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:52.239
like there's no there's we don't see the relationship they

800
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.239
fell up. We don't it's just there. It is here,

801
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:59.840
he is. And I think that ten episodes doesn't give

802
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:02.400
them the time to build up a lot of these

803
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.159
plots and a lot of the things that they throw

804
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.199
at you. They're just puff here they are, puff here,

805
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.159
they are proof here they are, And we don't get

806
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.559
enough time to see these storylines develop so that they're

807
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:17.639
more meaningful when they happen, or more you know, insightful

808
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.800
when they end. So I think the ten episodes hurts

809
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.800
them in this case, and I think them trying too

810
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.039
many different things and not letting Star Trek be Star

811
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.280
Trek also helped add to season three.

812
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.119
I was that.

813
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:41.719
You can say anything on this podcast.

814
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.039
What do you think? V why? Why do you what

815
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.960
do you think about the minions voting?

816
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:52.119
Well, I don't know, because there were more episodes in

817
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:57.800
season three that I that I like that a lot

818
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.000
of you all didn't like so much. But I guess

819
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.840
I have a different sense of humor because like that

820
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:05.679
whole thing at the end with the four and a

821
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.039
half balcons, I just, like I said, it was hilarious,

822
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:19.239
and I don't know, it's I'm sorry, I have nothing left.

823
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:20.159
My brain is dead.

824
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:24.920
So that's cool because I'm sure Paul has a lot.

825
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:30.639
Left take it over for me, please.

826
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:39.159
Paul thoughts on season three mm hm, you know, in general,

827
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:42.039
why the why? Why did the why did the fans

828
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:45.159
vote one two three as the best?

829
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:45.280
That?

830
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:46.519
Okay the worst?

831
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.079
I think, right, it was very exciting when the show

832
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:51.960
first came on the air, right there was it was

833
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.840
a really new, you know, be invigorated old school star trek.

834
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:58.679
So yeah, it got some big hits for for the

835
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.159
first season. I think at an ill people having that

836
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:03.199
fondness for remembering seeing it for the first time.

837
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:04.360
Like Eric was talking about the.

838
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.079
Pilot, right, really solid. But if you look at the

839
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.880
episodes and break them down, right, I think season two

840
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.079
is easily the strongest, you know, easily. I mean it's

841
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.039
just full of hitters all the way. I'm much better written.

842
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:19.800
I don't think they need more episodes. I don't think

843
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.199
that does anybody any favors unless they're really really good episodes.

844
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:25.599
I mean, I think we saw in this say lot

845
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:28.840
that ate its tail. You can have great character development

846
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.199
in one episode, which they did for Kirk, right, he

847
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:33.000
had a whole character arc in that episode.

848
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:33.159
Right.

849
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:36.360
It's just you need better writing and less focus on

850
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.400
gimmicks and you'll do fine. But they lost track of

851
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.199
that in season three and the writing just went. That's

852
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.199
the reason that it's not as good. I don't fault

853
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.880
the cast at all, but the writing's been really subpar.

854
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.360
All right, how about you, David, We'll save Eric for

855
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:57.880
a last because I see chopping at the bit over there,

856
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:02.599
So yeah.

857
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:04.760
I have to agree with Paul. However, I would have

858
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.320
to say that it would have been nice to have

859
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.480
more episodes like you were saying, gym for character development.

860
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.000
I would have actually liked to see them go back

861
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:18.599
to the original like TNG Voyager and although like having

862
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:23.679
twenty some episodes or so, and you know, Star Trek

863
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:28.960
is all about you know, unity and fun and people

864
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:32.119
getting together and making life better for everybody to show

865
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:35.679
to me, I'm like, yeah, they could have totally made

866
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.400
a lot of episodes that centered around that, And to me,

867
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:43.079
I'm just like, I want more out of Strangey World.

868
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.599
I want this to become something that it is like

869
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:50.719
going to spin off into the TS era because you know,

870
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:54.039
we all know pikerd before Cook, so it's like it's

871
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.679
cool how they're bringing up scene together. But since we

872
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.039
already know that it's canceled in the fifth season, and

873
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.480
it's like, what seasons ago, that's only twenty episodes or

874
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.960
is it sixteen? Because I think had six. So yeah,

875
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.239
it's like, oh man, were they gonna what are they

876
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:13.840
gonna do? Are they just going to make the new

877
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:17.199
spin off of cook series only four episodes long to

878
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.760
kind of like tie in Suasion five? I don't know,

879
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:25.079
but yeah, to me, I think season two would definitely

880
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:30.400
wanted a better storytelling out of all the Shoesion chuffar,

881
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:33.280
and who knows season four might be better? Oh five

882
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:34.320
might be the great I.

883
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:40.119
Thought that I saw the something semi intelligent to say,

884
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:44.880
and it's something that Celia said at the con. And

885
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:47.920
I can't remember which season. Maybe it was season three

886
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:52.079
because remember didn't we have a writer strike in there

887
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.960
somewhere where?

888
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:57.599
That might that was between two and three, which is

889
00:54:57.599 --> 00:54:58.480
why three was so long.

890
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:03.239
Yeah, and there might have been some sort of issues

891
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:07.079
with good writing. I don't know if that had anything

892
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.199
to do with it, but that's just what I thought of.

893
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:28.360
Well, Eric, after these intelligent addition, Jim, what are your thoughts?

894
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:31.039
No, I mean, I you know, I agree with a

895
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:33.159
lot of things that are being said, Like, I personally

896
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.320
think the ten episode season is fine. You know, you

897
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.360
take any any season of any twenty six episode star

898
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:43.280
Trek and there it's thirty percent stinkers, right, Like, so

899
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.480
I don't need thirty percent stinkers. I got a lot

900
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.599
of TV I want to watch right now. I don't

901
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:51.239
need to spend time watching stinkers. So ten episodes is

902
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:54.199
great for me. And I can't disagree with anything Paul said.

903
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:58.000
I just think that, like good writing trumps all other things,

904
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:02.400
whether it's gimmicks or whether it's cool graphics or any

905
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:05.840
of that kind of stuff. So and to me, also

906
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:08.920
agreeing with Paul, to me, season two had the best writing.

907
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.960
I mean, season one had an amazing beginning. It had

908
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:13.639
a couple of lulls in the middle, but we were

909
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.719
kind of learning all of our characters along the way.

910
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:18.360
And I now look back to season one and I

911
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.280
review those episodes, and they're not quite as good as

912
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.840
I remember them being, simply because now I know the

913
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:26.360
characters and I'm not I don't have that kind of

914
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:31.519
novelty factor anymore. So yeah, I you know, what I'm

915
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.440
hoping is that they do more of this kind of

916
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.920
swing for the fences thing, and that they stick the

917
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:40.280
landing like they did in season two with those couple

918
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:44.039
of episodes that we all totally dug on. I do

919
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.079
know that sometimes Star Trek kind of crashes and burns

920
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:49.559
at the end of the end of a series. I'm

921
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:51.880
you know, Star Trek Enterprise, I'm looking at you. So

922
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:56.320
I'm really hoping that that doesn't doesn't happen here. But

923
00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:58.280
you know, we've got a great cast and they're going

924
00:56:58.320 --> 00:56:59.960
to act the hell out of anything that they're given

925
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:03.199
to do, so one way or another, I really respect

926
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:05.599
what they're doing. And asia, you know, assuming that we

927
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.400
have do avoid writer strikes and and that kind of

928
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.360
stuff going forward, I've got a lot of optimism that

929
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:13.000
seasons four and five will be pretty good.

930
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:16.559
That wraps up.

931
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:20.360
Paul wanted to say something I was just going to say.

932
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:22.320
I had a thought about why I think maybe the

933
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:24.440
numbers are a little higher for season one, right, is

934
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:28.599
because season one, right, we had Hammer, and everybody loved Hammer, right,

935
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.360
I mean, he's really connected to season one, right, and

936
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.719
Pellia I think not so much, And so I think

937
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:36.880
that people maybe missed Hammer a little bit, And I

938
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:38.320
think that maybe is why.

939
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:40.880
There's a little bit more.

940
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:41.920
Of that fondness for season one.

941
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:43.199
Does that you know?

942
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:44.440
Does that clock for anybody?

943
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:49.320
Yeah? Favorite character and then they.

944
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.760
Killed and I think that there's Pellia has generally had

945
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:56.719
a pretty lukewarm exception, you know, I mean generally speaking

946
00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:58.480
people and bananas when we learned that she was going

947
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.239
to be on the show. Rightfully, so she's a very

948
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:06.679
talented person. But her character, aside from those moments where

949
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:10.519
she's like either providing comedic relief or acting as a

950
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:15.000
mentor to Scottie, she hasn't brought a lot of other

951
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:16.559
stuff to the game in my opinion.

952
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:21.599
Well, she is from Burlington, Vermont, so that's Applaus.

953
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:24.599
People from that town are weird.

954
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:33.079
Man. It's in the water. It's got to be the water.

955
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.760
They just they just know. They just smoke pot and

956
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:37.360
eat ice cream.

957
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:42.079
They know they have, don't. They produce maple.

958
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:46.639
Syrup up there, and cheese, lots and lots of cheese.

959
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.239
Maple syrup and cheese and pots.

960
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:51.559
And cheese, an ice cream.

961
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.440
An ice cream, Well you get the munchies you gotta have.

962
00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:56.039
That's actually not a bad place to live.

963
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:56.559
Ice c.

964
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.880
Ben and Jerry's it may start on that.

965
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:08.320
So that was that was a rather long poll segment,

966
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:10.199
but I think we had fun and we covered it.

967
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.000
So this is a part of the show where we

968
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:17.159
would do our cadet training with Charles who is not

969
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:21.039
with us. So I'm going to attempt to do cadet training.

970
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:22.880
I'm going to give it my all. I'm going to

971
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.880
do my best. But Charles has big shoes to fill,

972
00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:29.480
but I'm gonna I'm going to try. So this is

973
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:33.480
the cadet training for new life and new civilizations. We

974
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.280
don't we only have well, we don't have a lot.

975
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:38.400
So the first one is the TNG episode Devil's Due

976
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:43.039
from season four, episode thirteen, which featured a god type being.

977
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:44.760
Now wait a minute, if we're going to talk about

978
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.039
god type beings, you know where we got to go.

979
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:49.639
But we're not going to go there, all right. So

980
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.400
that that's the first that's the first one that up

981
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:56.440
Paul throws on there. But again, if we're going to

982
00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.159
talk god beings, you guys know where I'm going, all right.

983
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:01.360
The second one he on his list is a TS

984
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.360
episode where no man has gone before season one episode three.

985
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:12.239
Gary Mitchell has glowing eyes just as Captain Betel did okay. Cool.

986
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:14.880
We also have the Discovery through the Valley of the

987
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:18.800
Shadows season two, episode twelve, where Pike sees his future.

988
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:23.800
Now that's a really good connection to this episode and

989
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:27.519
the last on our Cadet Training. It start took four, Kirk,

990
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:30.519
don't call me armir. You used to call me Jim.

991
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:35.639
Don't you remember Jim. Yes, your name is Jim. My

992
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.320
name is Jim. We're a bunch of gyms. I remember

993
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:41.159
that very well. And last on the list is the

994
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.840
TNG episode The Inner Light, which I thought of immediately

995
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.079
when I saw this episode, and that's season five, episode

996
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:54.880
twenty five of TNG. And that wraps up our Cadet training.

997
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.800
Thank you, Charles, And that brings us down to our

998
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:01.559
fan scores for this episod. So again, you guys can

999
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:05.119
head over to Truck Talking and Beyond and tell us

1000
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:07.800
what you thought about the episode. And I'm going to

1001
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:10.519
turn this one on over to Eric.

1002
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:12.760
All right, we always ask our fans on a scale

1003
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.840
of one to ten, how'd you like this week's episode?

1004
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.679
Kristin Lowe Hail said ten. Tied up some loose ends

1005
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:21.599
and started to put together future scenarios. I was pretty

1006
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:26.320
amazed at that time, out of time sequence, creative and

1007
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:33.519
emotional writing. Thanks Kristin. Raphael Recto said ten plus plus. Rafael.

1008
01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:35.000
I'd love to give you more than ten, but we

1009
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:36.920
have to round down, so that's a ten from you,

1010
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:42.559
Sir Moz. Chris Christalis also gave it a ten, whereas

1011
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:45.400
Chad Smith said seven. In general, it was really good,

1012
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:47.159
but I felt it might have been better as a

1013
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:51.079
two part episode. There was definitely some aspects that the

1014
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:55.280
episode could have done without. Interesting Chad, wonder what those

1015
01:01:55.280 --> 01:02:00.320
are for you. Top fan Stephen Stevo Coutel Is your

1016
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:05.199
middle name really? Steve O Dude said excellent, double exclamation

1017
01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:10.920
point ten, Thanks Steven. Cindy Lavassour said best Star Trek

1018
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:17.159
series ever ten. Nicole Cozinat Couzeneki also gave it a ten.

1019
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:21.239
Jan Lee Greville also gave it a ten. Cried at

1020
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:26.199
the end. Tigue O'Neil said, I give the finale a

1021
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:30.639
nine point five and Paul bev for me ten out

1022
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:32.519
of ten. To see the beginnings of the Kirk and

1023
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:36.719
Spock union, the sad but hopeful future ending melted this

1024
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:41.000
old Trekky's heart and brought a tear to my eyes,

1025
01:02:41.079 --> 01:02:46.960
so for me, loved it double vulcan hands sign. Bonus

1026
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:49.880
comments that we also got that did not include scores

1027
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.440
that we wanted to talk about include top fan Gerald

1028
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:55.400
Ebinc who said, reminded me of TNG the Inner Light

1029
01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.639
which still tears welling, which still gets tears welling up

1030
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:03.920
the episode two loved it DS nine and the visitor

1031
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:08.159
also get me choked up, can't watch it. Adam Savage said,

1032
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:11.280
hits right in the feelings, so glad it wasn't a cliffhanger.

1033
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:15.199
It wrapped the season up perfectly, and Larry Preuittt said

1034
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:20.480
best episode of all three seasons, hands down. That is

1035
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:24.079
what Trek was meant to be. So you might have

1036
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.960
noticed me repeating the word ten an awful lot during

1037
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:29.920
our fans scores this week. We have a fan score

1038
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:33.320
this week, guys, of nine point six, which I think

1039
01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:36.239
rivals just about any other fans score that we've ever

1040
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:38.880
had on just about any show. So there you go.

1041
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.519
The salot who ate its tail got a fan score

1042
01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:43.840
from the host, but we've never had one this season

1043
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:45.840
that was that high from the fans.

1044
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:49.800
Well, there you have it, So nine point six for

1045
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:52.119
the fans. Paul you want to give us a quick

1046
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:53.599
rundown and share your thoughts.

1047
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.840
Sure, okay, Jins, ladies, people, everyone, let's do it. So

1048
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:01.840
we're talking here about the Street Your World season three finale,

1049
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.920
New Life and New Civilizations, and what we have here

1050
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:10.599
is essentially a bit of a sequel episode to a

1051
01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:14.159
couple of earlier episodes that we had this season, most

1052
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:20.079
principally through the Lens of Time, which was episode number

1053
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:25.039
five of this season, and things surprisingly reconnect with that

1054
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:32.000
episode here because we have an evil threat resurfacing, an

1055
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:36.800
ancient evil alien force, the Vesda, not to be confused

1056
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:40.559
with the Vespa, which is an Italian motor scooter, but

1057
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:45.519
I digress and the Vesda are threatening the galaxy right,

1058
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:51.000
and Pike faces a difficult decision to stop spreading this evil,

1059
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:56.800
which becomes a very sizeable Paul Darness again, No, no.

1060
01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:02.880
Audio, I can't. I can't hear Paul at all.

1061
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:05.719
Telling it out a little bit. I think the upload

1062
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:09.639
would have been fine. But yeah, let's just let's just

1063
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.840
do a real quick let's vamp for thirty seconds while

1064
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:17.400
Paul disconnects and reconnects his connection. I think it'll be okay.

1065
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:19.519
I think it'll be just disconnect and reconnect.

1066
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:23.599
So I was really surprised at the you know, the

1067
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:28.079
fan reaction to this episode. It was, you know, fans

1068
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:31.679
really loved it, they really really enjoyed it. And I

1069
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.079
there was you know, the one guy a seven, you

1070
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.440
got nine point five. A lot of people that didn't

1071
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:39.400
leave a score just said I loved that. It was great,

1072
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:42.440
it was fun and made me cry and it wasn't

1073
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:43.119
a cliffhanger.

1074
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:46.119
I wouldn't know if that Adam Savage is that the

1075
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:51.400
same Adam Savage that was on MythBusters, because I'm curious.

1076
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:53.679
I don't know, because that would be really cool, right,

1077
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:57.440
that sounds great?

1078
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:03.400
And continuing yepically, this is a big watershed reconnection for

1079
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:07.719
Captain Batel. Okay, and initially, you know, we found out

1080
01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:11.519
this whole Gorn thing, right, and if my notes are correct,

1081
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.480
Buttell is revealed to have this kind of genetic response

1082
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:19.920
to the VESDA, right due to her genetics and through

1083
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.280
a whole lot of crazy expedition and a something and

1084
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:26.199
what if thinking. There's a lot of what if thinking

1085
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:30.440
without any real evidence in this episode, right, she realizes

1086
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:34.239
that she's supposed to be destined to be the next

1087
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:38.719
in line of a being called the Beholder, right, and

1088
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:43.400
the beholder is able to somehow put the VESDA in

1089
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:47.960
check and keep them from invading our universe. Short long

1090
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:51.320
story short, essentially right, and so as part of this

1091
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:56.320
transformation with her powers, Batel is able to project this

1092
01:06:56.519 --> 01:07:01.360
vision of a happy domestic life life that she and

1093
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:05.400
Pike craved, including like projecting to the future where they're married,

1094
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:06.239
where they have.

1095
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:12.320
Children, children getting married, all this stuff like that, And

1096
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:16.679
it kind of walks up against the idea of challenging

1097
01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:20.320
the idea of a predetermined path for Pike. It is

1098
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:22.840
an open narrative. We don't know really how that'll get

1099
01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:25.880
itself sorted out in the future. It does provide a

1100
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:30.519
bit more hope over the origin adherence to the cannon

1101
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:33.199
that we've seen with Pike's future, so we don't really

1102
01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:41.039
know that. Basically, she's going to sacrifice herself is what

1103
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.000
Bettel is coming to talk about, right, She's going to

1104
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:49.760
sacrifice herself and assume this mantle of the Beholder to

1105
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.679
and giving up any chance of reality for a happy

1106
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:58.000
future with Pike. Instead, she gives him a sort of

1107
01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:01.039
lasting taste mentally of what that would be like, which

1108
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:04.199
was totally the inner like, I mean totally. A lot

1109
01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:06.079
of people are seeing like, oh, it's like the inner light,

1110
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:08.519
isn't that great? I had a different reaction to that,

1111
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:10.519
And I don't know if he wanted to get into

1112
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:12.760
my thoughts. Maybe I'll let everyone else talk first and

1113
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:16.199
I can. I can happily come back later and express

1114
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:18.880
a bit more about what I thought of this episode.

1115
01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:22.159
But that's basically in a nutshell that I miss anything important. Oh,

1116
01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:25.840
I mean, of course, our our friend Chris came back

1117
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:29.439
from the previous episode and some gamble. I think he's

1118
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:34.039
an ensign, right, who we realize is you know, Transform

1119
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:36.600
is being you know, the kind of evil mask wearing

1120
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.560
still sightless version of one of the Vesda's. They're Chief

1121
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:43.239
VESDA Invader, if you will. So we've got that surprise

1122
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.640
transporter buffer resurrection of ensign gamble there early on.

1123
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:49.960
Right, That's how I would describe it.

1124
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:55.079
Where okay, great, but so it was a bit of

1125
01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:58.039
a surprise, you know, and it shows you why actors

1126
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:00.159
like Chris have to have an NDA when this is

1127
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:02.520
still going on, right, But so a bit of a

1128
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:06.199
surprise there. But I think that basically bye bye Captain

1129
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:07.600
Battel for future episodes.

1130
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:08.920
I don't think we'll be seeing her again?

1131
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.119
Is that the Is that the finale for a battel

1132
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:13.319
that we would have liked to have seen.

1133
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:14.119
I don't know.

1134
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:18.359
How will people talk about this episode and its relationship

1135
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:18.960
to the Inner Light.

1136
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:19.800
I don't know.

1137
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.840
I guess that I'll have thoughts later, happy to share

1138
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:26.800
them if asked. But in the meantime, why don't we

1139
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:28.239
rotate through some tree experts?

1140
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:31.600
Uncle Jim? All right, why don't we start off with

1141
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:34.079
the what are your thoughts on?

1142
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:40.560
That? Was? That was really a powerful episode. I think

1143
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:45.079
the thing that got me was how she projected their

1144
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:51.359
potential or their future. And it was interesting with that

1145
01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:57.479
they had somebody always knocking at the door, and I

1146
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:01.199
didn't quite really understand because I guess that was ultimately

1147
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:05.399
the Vesda knocking at the door to call her to

1148
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:11.159
her ultimate future. But just that whole thing where they

1149
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:13.800
have the daughter that when I had the dog, the hotter,

1150
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:20.399
they grow old together, that just that just I immediately

1151
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:22.199
thought of the Inner Light too, and I know that

1152
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:28.159
in the PMG that really haunted the card for a while.

1153
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:34.520
But what I really got from the tell was how

1154
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:38.800
she realized she was meant for something different and she

1155
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:43.039
didn't fit. She never felt like the being the ships

1156
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:46.439
captain was a fit. And then that brand new job

1157
01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:49.279
of being what was it the attorney general or whatever

1158
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:53.439
it was, the that she didn't So that wasn't that

1159
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:57.359
wasn't what she was meant to do either. And while

1160
01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:00.960
I've never had anything that lofty, and my life never

1161
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:06.000
been a Starship captain, but I've been in places where

1162
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:07.800
I thought I was where I was supposed to be

1163
01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:11.640
and I wasn't. So I don't know that just that

1164
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.640
really spoke to me. But yeah, it was, it was.

1165
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:18.760
It was great. I would I would definitely go along

1166
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:21.319
with the minions and say that was that was a

1167
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:24.760
solid ten, you know.

1168
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:26.800
V I was as I was watching and I was

1169
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:29.239
thinking of the Paul McCartney song let Him in.

1170
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:31.399
The Door.

1171
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:35.399
Yeah, yeah, ringing the Ball. It reminded me of that

1172
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:37.680
song where he's opened and opened the door and let

1173
01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:40.039
in Uncle Tom and let in all your friends from

1174
01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:43.119
the past. That's what I thought of when I saw that.

1175
01:11:43.239 --> 01:11:44.039
I love that song.

1176
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:50.920
Yeah, I I thought of inter Light, but this was different.

1177
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:54.920
At the same time, I thought, you know, inter Light

1178
01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:58.439
was was uh you know, Captain Picard living this entire

1179
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:01.000
life to remember the civilization and it was long gone.

1180
01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:06.720
In this particular episode, similar except we all know Pike's

1181
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:09.359
where he's going to end up, we know his destiny.

1182
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:12.600
They even reference it in the episode when there's a

1183
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:17.479
knock on the door and it's cap It's April offering

1184
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:20.279
him the job, and he's talking with Pattel and he's like,

1185
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:23.039
don't go, because you know what's going to happen if

1186
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.920
you go, and he says, I have to go, and

1187
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.359
he goes. But then the next knock on the door

1188
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:32.119
is him, and he's alive, and he can't figure out

1189
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:35.760
he did everything he's supposed to do, but the bulkhead

1190
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:39.640
didn't explode and he's still alive. And so, you know,

1191
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:42.399
this was a little bit a play on the inter Light,

1192
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:47.000
but a completely different aspect of that, because this was

1193
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.560
Pike getting a vision of what life could have been,

1194
01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:54.760
what his destiny might have been. And I also think

1195
01:12:54.760 --> 01:13:00.680
that it was it was patel Get collecting the strength

1196
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:03.159
that she needed to fight the evil based on the

1197
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:06.640
love that she had for Pike, and by by showing

1198
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:09.199
him that and building up that love and that relationship

1199
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:13.319
that gave her the strength to defeat the evil ensign

1200
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:17.880
Gamble or Vesna, whatever his name was. Uh, you know,

1201
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:20.800
because she said that, you know, the light that she

1202
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:23.800
felt in her heart could never be defeated by any darkness.

1203
01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:27.600
And then she zapped him into oblivion. So that's the

1204
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:30.000
way I looked at that. And uh and again, Paul

1205
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.359
McCartney kept spinning around in my head it all the time,

1206
01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:35.680
you know, every time there was a knock on the door.

1207
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:38.119
I was like, I kept thinking about that. It was fun.

1208
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:43.600
But yeah, I agree. I enjoyed it immensely. I was

1209
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:47.720
a bit confused when he wasn't dead. I'm like, wait

1210
01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:49.720
a minute, are they jumping in the future. What's going

1211
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:52.720
on here? And you know, then we we swing around

1212
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:56.560
and find out that it was Betel's beyond beholder or

1213
01:13:56.600 --> 01:14:01.520
beyond her superpowers that were all allowing her to give

1214
01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:06.279
Pike this this gift that she gave him. So I

1215
01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:11.520
enjoyed it immensely. And you know, I did think it

1216
01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:16.359
was strange though, that there that their daughter married uh,

1217
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:20.000
April's son. I'm like, okay, I suppose that's cool. Keep

1218
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:23.000
it in the family. But and he had a dog.

1219
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.399
I love the fact that he had a dog. You know,

1220
01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:30.279
I have a dog ward layer go anyway, So I overall,

1221
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:34.119
I enjoyed it. I'm with dominions and you know, yeah,

1222
01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:37.000
I'm gonna go with a ten on this one. I

1223
01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:40.119
really really enjoyed it. And also did it feel like

1224
01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:44.600
an ending to you guys? It kind of felt like

1225
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:46.399
like to me like they were wrapping the whole thing

1226
01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:48.279
up every you know, it was done, We're moving on.

1227
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:53.359
But correct me if I'm wrong, But didn't the Enterprise

1228
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:58.399
go on a five year mission with Captain Pike before

1229
01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:03.239
he turns the Enterprise over to Kirk? If my Star

1230
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:04.119
for History.

1231
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:06.279
Is correct, that's I think that's why we have five seasons.

1232
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:09.000
Right, They're gonna they're gonna go on that last five

1233
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:11.640
year mission. Then he's gonna come back, have the accident,

1234
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:14.720
and Kirk gets the Enterprise. That's the way I remembered it.

1235
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:18.319
I I haven't gone back and revisited it, but I

1236
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:21.399
think that's the way it happens. So this this five

1237
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:24.439
year mission is exactly where they're going and we know

1238
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:27.079
exactly how it's going to end. So that's that's my

1239
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:28.720
take on it. How about you?

1240
01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:36.119
Eric uh Okay, uh, well, I thought the episode like started.

1241
01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:38.239
I liked the beginning of it. I like the whole,

1242
01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:41.800
Like Battel comes back and you know, Pike plans this

1243
01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:46.760
surprise party for her and that kind of stuff. One

1244
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:50.600
thing I wonder, like Insineration, they were always drinking synth

1245
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:53.880
the hole, right, but on Strange New Worlds they're always

1246
01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:58.680
drinking wine. So if like people on the Early Enterprise

1247
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:01.640
are just a bunch of drugs or what, I don't

1248
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:02.720
I don't feel.

1249
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:07.319
Like anybody's drinking syntho hall yet.

1250
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:12.039
Yeah. Well, I mean, and in some ways it is

1251
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:14.560
like it kind of makes sense, right because in that

1252
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:20.039
very early episode of Neck of Ts, we have oh

1253
01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:22.560
my gosh, I just lost his name, the original original

1254
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:25.159
doctor who has the case with like whiskey in it

1255
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:29.319
that he opens up, Doctor Boyd. Doctor Boyd. Yeah. Yeah,

1256
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:34.119
so that you know, there is that legacy of tos

1257
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:37.800
drinking real alcohol instead of syntho hall. But anyway, okay,

1258
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:39.399
so it started. It started pretty good.

1259
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:40.880
You know.

1260
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:44.600
I liked the kind of visuals and this idea that

1261
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:48.600
there's a culture that's worshiping the the VESDA. They have

1262
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:53.680
these really cool like you know, Pyramidal two pyramids kind

1263
01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:56.680
of together type buildings, which really reminded me. I don't

1264
01:16:56.680 --> 01:16:59.439
know if anybody else has read the Broken Earth trilogy

1265
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:03.439
by NK. Gemison, one of the best science fiction trilogies

1266
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:06.920
ever written. They definitely remind me of the Obelisks from

1267
01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:09.399
that series, and it was cool that you you know,

1268
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:13.760
transported up to the building to get to the upper levels.

1269
01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:17.640
But it was kind of like that whole culture sort

1270
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:20.760
of had a cool factor to me that was very limited,

1271
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:23.640
and it didn't really get me interested. We don't really

1272
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:27.680
know anything about them. It's like they introduced this new, strange,

1273
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.880
new world, right, But aside from the fact that they

1274
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:34.239
worshiped the Vesda and if Gamble asked them to, they'll

1275
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:35.479
all poke their own eyes.

1276
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:40.159
Oh yeah, uh, that's super gross, we didn't really learn

1277
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:44.159
anything about them, and it just made them uninteresting to me,

1278
01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:45.079
to tell you the truth.

1279
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:48.159
Then we kind of moved on and we had the

1280
01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:51.800
you know, the transporter recreation of Gamble. They did it

1281
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.920
from inside the transporter and then they send us along

1282
01:17:54.960 --> 01:18:00.680
these like space lay lines that of course, uh, you know,

1283
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:04.079
Kirk's brother knows all about because he's a hoodoo guy,

1284
01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:06.279
I guess, or something. I don't even know that that

1285
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:08.039
whole thing was kind of like, oh my god, you're

1286
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:09.880
just making shit up right now to try and make

1287
01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:14.920
your story fit in what's the way right now? Yeah,

1288
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:18.039
I mean it really just was. It felt a little

1289
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:22.520
arbitrary to me. I mean, I did like that they

1290
01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:25.880
brought Gamble back, just because I really like that actor

1291
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:29.199
and I liked his I loved his character and was

1292
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:32.000
absolutely heartbroken when they killed him off, and so I

1293
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:34.079
was like, Okay, maybe I'll do something really cool with him.

1294
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:37.239
Well it turns out that not he He doesn't just

1295
01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:39.600
get to die twice or once on this series. He

1296
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:44.199
gets to die twice on this series. So I don't know.

1297
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:47.760
I don't think I think Ensign Gamble deserved better than

1298
01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:54.359
two deaths in season three personally, okay, regarding Betel's. So

1299
01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:56.560
there's then so then we move on, and then there's

1300
01:18:56.600 --> 01:18:59.199
like Battel in the sick bay and her eyes start glowing,

1301
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:02.399
and everybody is talking about Gary Mitchell and the glowing eyes.

1302
01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:05.880
But the very first thing I thought of was like, Okay,

1303
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.319
the Gorn from Arena actually has the rainbow eyes, right,

1304
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:13.680
And so I almost wondered if they might make a

1305
01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:18.359
connection from Battel to the Gorn from arena through the

1306
01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:27.399
rainbow eye connection. I don't know anyway, Yeah, I yeah, exactly,

1307
01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:32.680
the rainbow connection. That was the first thing I thought

1308
01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:35.000
of when I saw her little her little rainbow eyes there,

1309
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:38.520
which then quickly faded, which then came back when she

1310
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:41.159
battled Gamble. I have to tell you, I had to

1311
01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:43.880
watch this episode at least twice to even understand what

1312
01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:45.960
the hell is happening to be. At the end of

1313
01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:47.560
the first time my wife and I watched it, we

1314
01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:51.640
were both kind of like, okay, that episode was you

1315
01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:54.079
know about the number I will give you at the

1316
01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:56.920
end of this, but I still don't really understand what

1317
01:19:57.079 --> 01:20:02.399
happened For like fifty percent of it. It was all that.

1318
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:06.479
The weakest part of this episode for me was the explanation,

1319
01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:09.800
which I still don't even understand a little bit, about

1320
01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:13.800
how she somehow has all the DNA of all the

1321
01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:17.840
races who have ever fought evil in the galaxy. I mean,

1322
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:22.680
come on, you guys, like that's a completely ridiculous premise.

1323
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:25.800
It has nothing to do with her being gorn. We

1324
01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:30.039
have no resolution at all of her having this Gorn

1325
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:32.479
DNA at the end of this season, It's like the

1326
01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:36.720
whole Battel becomes a gorn thing is just a ball

1327
01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:38.960
that has been dropped. The entire I keep talking about it,

1328
01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:40.600
how I wanted her to have a tail and like

1329
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:42.039
have all this cool stuff and go to be your

1330
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:46.439
roommates with you know, the Gordon lady from last episode.

1331
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:51.680
But like, I just feel completely unsatisfied with the Betel

1332
01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:55.239
story in general, and the explanation of her having all

1333
01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:57.079
the DNA of all the people who have ever fought

1334
01:20:57.119 --> 01:21:00.880
evil just doesn't make any sense to me. I also

1335
01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:06.800
don't understand really the connection of em Benga and Gamble.

1336
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:09.800
I mean, I guess if Gamble was the one who

1337
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:13.560
made the little doorway, then Gamble would have known that

1338
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:16.960
em Benga had Swahili background, which is why he would

1339
01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.199
have put Swahili writing on there, and the thing would

1340
01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:23.359
have responded to em Benga's face. But I also got

1341
01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:26.600
the sense that they were trying to say that this

1342
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:30.159
thing was there even before Gamble showed up, like it

1343
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:34.000
was a relic of this civilization. Anyway, the whole em

1344
01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:37.520
Benga connection also didn't make any sense to me at all.

1345
01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:45.960
The Vulcan mind meld okay, I mean nice connection point.

1346
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:48.520
I guess between Kirk ands Bock. It was kind of fun.

1347
01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:51.920
It was Kitschi to me, oh my god, we need

1348
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:55.119
to and now actually we know that a starship can

1349
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:59.199
put out a phaser beam that puts out as much

1350
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:02.960
energy as half of a sun. Like I think that

1351
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:06.479
was a scale that I didn't understand. I mean, you're

1352
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:09.039
talking about like that's a lot.

1353
01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:12.000
Of energy, that more energy.

1354
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:15.680
Than I would have ever thought. I mean not really,

1355
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:17.920
because then I think of all these things. They're like, Okay,

1356
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:19.840
the only way we can destroy this is shoot it

1357
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:21.439
into the sun, and I'm like, no, all you got

1358
01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:23.600
to do is shoot it with two phaser beams and

1359
01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:25.680
its toast right, that's as much energy as the Sun

1360
01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:29.720
puts out. So that the scale there, to me was

1361
01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:33.720
it feels off. I mean, I understand exoduels because I'm

1362
01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:36.880
kind of nerdy in that way. It's like the whole

1363
01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:39.680
the whole scale of that. Yeah, I don't I don't

1364
01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:42.199
think ultimately, Paul, I don't think I bought it. To

1365
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:44.199
tell you the truth, I don't think that a starship,

1366
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:46.960
a single starship, even with dilethium crystals, could put out

1367
01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:52.960
half the energy of a sun regarding the inner light stuff.

1368
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:55.640
You know, it's funny. I'm getting it now that that's

1369
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:57.199
where people went with that. But the first thing I

1370
01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:00.880
thought of was generations and the Nexus because that's where

1371
01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:04.159
Kirk lives the life that he didn't live, and you know,

1372
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:08.159
also Picard lives the life that he didn't live in there.

1373
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:13.840
So I thought it was much more necstasy than you don't.

1374
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:15.600
Even think about that.

1375
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:20.680
Yeah, I still hate Corby, worst character ever on this show.

1376
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:22.000
They should just get rid of him.

1377
01:23:23.319 --> 01:23:26.680
He's just I mean, I'm just I'm He's just a.

1378
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:30.279
Yuts and he doesn't provide any like what is she even?

1379
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:32.239
I mean, he's got like a nice kind of like

1380
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:34.520
half beard thing going on, and he's a little cute,

1381
01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:36.680
but like, what does she really seeing this?

1382
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:43.880
Sorry that.

1383
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:49.039
Yeah, I mean he wears a cool like bomber jacket things,

1384
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:51.079
so he's got a nice look to him, but he

1385
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:54.439
just isn't so I can't get into him. And then

1386
01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:56.920
the last thing I'll say is I just love that

1387
01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:59.359
they did kind of end this episode with Spock and

1388
01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:02.159
Kirk playing three D chess. I thought that was a

1389
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:06.520
nice little connection to to t O s so, so overall,

1390
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:09.800
I was fairly disappointed with a lot of aspects of

1391
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:12.800
this episode, but then there were some like little moments

1392
01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:14.960
where I was like, Okay, that's really cool. Oh I

1393
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:18.520
like that little part there. So I think I didn't

1394
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:21.039
hate this more than I hated some other episodes this season.

1395
01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:27.760
So maybe I will give this one a six. I'll

1396
01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:29.319
give it a six. That feels right to me.

1397
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:34.680
All Right, David, what do you think?

1398
01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:41.079
You said almost everything that I wanted too much?

1399
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.720
Sorry, I just like I just kind of like go

1400
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:47.399
through the episode in my head and I'm like, oh,

1401
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:48.000
there's this Perton.

1402
01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:52.640
I'm just saying, I totally agree with everything you said.

1403
01:24:52.720 --> 01:24:58.239
The sun, the gon, rainbow eyes, this little guy. I

1404
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:01.920
was so hoping that would have been a thing. Oh man,

1405
01:25:02.319 --> 01:25:04.199
that thing were just totally blown out of the water. I

1406
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:08.319
was so disappointed in this episode, but no, I totally

1407
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:10.239
agree with you a lot of the different things, the

1408
01:25:10.279 --> 01:25:13.000
little details, and yes, the nextus. That was the first

1409
01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:14.520
thing I thought of when I saw I was like,

1410
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:18.880
are they going to be bringing Captain Picard or Picard

1411
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:22.079
and Piccard and Coke into the thing, And so I

1412
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:24.279
was like getting outcited. And then it turned out to

1413
01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:29.600
be a dream. I was like, Okay, yeah, that didn't

1414
01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:32.119
really work for me too much. But I think I said.

1415
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.039
That at the beginning of that sequence, David, when I

1416
01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:35.800
was watching with my wife, I was like, is this

1417
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:37.880
going to turn out to all be a dream? Seems

1418
01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:38.399
like yep.

1419
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:48.279
I I honestly thought that the goin story fell flat

1420
01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:52.880
in this whole build up of Patel because I thought

1421
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:58.640
it intwigged me that Gamble and Battel had that fight

1422
01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:02.880
in Chick Bay a couple episodes back, but they didn't

1423
01:26:02.880 --> 01:26:05.600
go anywhere with it afterwards, and it was just like,

1424
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:09.119
what were they gonna do? So this came up, and

1425
01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:11.560
so apparently she's supposed to be a guardian and I'm like,

1426
01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:14.600
all right, well, I guess that kind of clears the

1427
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:19.800
way of what was Pike's girlfriend in the original Cage

1428
01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:27.279
episode with that Vivian. Okay, yeah, I guess that just

1429
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:30.239
like paved a way for him to have another girlfriend,

1430
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:32.560
I guess, But I mean they could have done the

1431
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:36.239
exact same thing with Petl becoming that going right, So

1432
01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:39.239
I was just like, oh, well, I was kind of

1433
01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:44.359
disappointed in this episode, but yeah, there was a there

1434
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:47.359
was a lot of things that I liked, Like Eric

1435
01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:49.920
pointed out the little details of the chessboard at the end,

1436
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:55.720
and I didn't quite understand the whole idea where Fock

1437
01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:58.960
and Cook did that whole mind meld thing. And I'm like,

1438
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:04.079
in a way, yes, that brings them closer together, but

1439
01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:07.119
they now know things that he'd done on Hawaiian, So

1440
01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:10.560
I'm like, okay, there's a story on his own right there.

1441
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:11.640
So it's just I don't know.

1442
01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:13.600
They threw in a.

1443
01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:16.520
Lot of different bits and pieces that just kind of

1444
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:19.720
which for fan service in a way for me. But

1445
01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:23.399
it was good, but there's just a lot of different

1446
01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:27.039
things that just fell flat. And putting two phases together,

1447
01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:30.319
they're saying they have enough firepower to blow up a planet.

1448
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:34.119
Now it's like what, So I don't know to me,

1449
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:37.840
I I but yeah, I do agree with well a

1450
01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:41.319
lot with Eric said, And I did get pretty disappointed

1451
01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:44.560
in this particular episode. So I'm probably gonna just to

1452
01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:52.159
be honest, I'm gonna be giving it a five. Yeah, Paul,

1453
01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:53.680
I guess Paul's next.

1454
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:58.039
I think do we lose Uncle Jim?

1455
01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:01.720
Hear his dog? O?

1456
01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:05.520
Oh okay, now we're getting we're getting dog that's.

1457
01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:09.319
Always always very professional, professional.

1458
01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:18.039
Well can you hear me? All right? Honest to god?

1459
01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:18.920
With the dog.

1460
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:25.119
I got to really put myself right smack dad with

1461
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:28.279
Eric and David, Okay, because I think you guys made

1462
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:30.720
a lot of my points. I did not find this

1463
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:36.920
to be a satisfying finale at all. I think a

1464
01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.840
lot of my problems are the fact, and I would

1465
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:43.199
say a lot of these same things back in what

1466
01:28:43.319 --> 01:28:45.399
is it through the lens of time or whatever we

1467
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:48.399
first saw these vesna a few you know, weeks ago

1468
01:28:48.520 --> 01:28:52.560
or whatever the setup episode. This show has become way

1469
01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:55.560
too much space fantasy and not science fiction.

1470
01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:56.039
Right.

1471
01:28:56.319 --> 01:29:00.119
This is the same problem I had with the the

1472
01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:04.399
you know, the comedic Bulkan episode a couple of weeks ago. Right,

1473
01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:06.760
It's just nonsense, right, And it's like the fact that

1474
01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:08.840
you would suddenly all your behaviors and your hair and

1475
01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:12.720
your costumes all change because of a DNA thing with

1476
01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:15.319
an injection. It's just ridiculous.

1477
01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:16.079
It's just no.

1478
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:20.960
The power of a sun from a starship.

1479
01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:26.199
I mean, this is ludicrous. So and there was just absolutely.

1480
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:28.600
I really feel for the actors who played Patel because

1481
01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:30.960
there was just no point in having this old gorn

1482
01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:34.600
subplot at all. It was such a stretch to connect

1483
01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:38.199
it to this fantasy adversary nonsense, right, and I would

1484
01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:41.880
have been so down, you know, with the idea of

1485
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:45.800
like literally you know, Reptilian scales Captain Pateel. I mean,

1486
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:47.880
I was really hoping we were going in that direction,

1487
01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:50.279
that they were going to be some payoff for all

1488
01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:53.079
that we got nothing, So I thought it was really

1489
01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:56.840
and and for me, I did find the end sequenced well,

1490
01:29:56.960 --> 01:30:02.000
emotional in places and effective, a bit of a you know,

1491
01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:06.760
certainly not original, and I was very much interlight generations

1492
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:08.840
the whole way. I'm like, this is just something we've

1493
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:11.479
seen before to kind of, you know, with a cheap

1494
01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:13.560
box of Kleenex for people, who are you know going

1495
01:30:13.600 --> 01:30:16.560
to find that, you know, compelling. But it's certainly not fresh,

1496
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.640
inventive or adhering the logic at all.

1497
01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:20.039
So for me, a really.

1498
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:25.039
Major disappointment, but pretty much spot fits right in and

1499
01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:28.359
with everything else we got in season three, which is

1500
01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:33.640
overwhelmingly a pretty you know, I think, disappointing season. So

1501
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:36.520
I my most generous I can give this a six

1502
01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:41.880
and certainly not more. If I never see anybody on

1503
01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:43.199
the show tango again.

1504
01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:44.239
It'll be too soon.

1505
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:48.520
That's just been It's like, say some up season three

1506
01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:51.359
for me, spock tangling. Okay, that would be what I

1507
01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:53.840
would say. That's my takeaway from the season. It's just

1508
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:58.279
really preposterous. And give us some science fiction again with

1509
01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:01.319
some better writing and do better friends, because this was

1510
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:02.039
not better.

1511
01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:12.399
Six all right, Paul, I missed the number you gave us?

1512
01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:13.079
Was that a five?

1513
01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:14.039
Six?

1514
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:14.520
Six?

1515
01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:18.079
Got it? All right?

1516
01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:21.479
I'm running the numbers, Jim.

1517
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:23.680
We don't. We don't have Charles with us this week,

1518
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:28.600
so Eric is going to step in for Charles. Charles

1519
01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:29.760
gave it an eight point five.

1520
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:32.680
Oh Charles getting eight point okay, then let me recalculate here.

1521
01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:34.920
So we got one of these, one of these, one

1522
01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:38.680
of these, one of these, one of these, and one

1523
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:42.560
of these and divide that by six. Okay. That gives

1524
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:45.039
us a Treuxsport score of seven point six this week?

1525
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:48.960
Six? Did did nobody?

1526
01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:49.359
Did?

1527
01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:52.199
Am I the only one that thought of Cybock releasing

1528
01:31:52.239 --> 01:31:52.720
their pain?

1529
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:53.680
Yep?

1530
01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:57.760
Yeah, I one that thought that? Just me? Okay, I

1531
01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:01.279
don't know, because I just thought it was a sidebox thing.

1532
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.239
I don't know, maybe any everything.

1533
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:15.199
Anything wrong? She gave it.

1534
01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:24.279
Right on my microphone. Okay, all right, guys. Well that

1535
01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:28.359
wraps up our review of New Life and New Civilizations.

1536
01:32:28.399 --> 01:32:30.199
And you know what time that means. It's time for

1537
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:35.039
our Star Trek birthdays, and that means the birthday song,

1538
01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:57.520
if I can find it there it is. That was

1539
01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:01.399
not a clon song. All right, guys. This is a

1540
01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:03.239
part of the show where we do our Star Trek

1541
01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:06.000
birthdays and we always start off by remembering those members

1542
01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:09.239
of our Star Trek family who, sadly enough, are no

1543
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:11.600
longer with us, and for that we turned.

1544
01:33:11.399 --> 01:33:14.439
To Eric, Yes Jim. This week we have a lot

1545
01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:18.279
of remembrances. The first is Richard bruce Hyde, the actor

1546
01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:21.800
who played Lieutenant Kevin Riley in the TOS first season

1547
01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:25.199
episodes The Naked Time and The Conscience of the King.

1548
01:33:26.119 --> 01:33:28.039
To well, at least one of those is a great episode,

1549
01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:31.760
Naked Time is kind of Fun. In nineteen ninety eight,

1550
01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:34.199
thirty two years after he shot his last scenes for

1551
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:36.840
Star Trek, who was briefly reacquainted with the Star Trek

1552
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:40.600
franchise when he made an otherwise uncredited appearance as himself

1553
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:45.279
in the film portion of the Klingon Encounter Ride at

1554
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:49.760
the Las Vegas Star Trek Experience attraction, which I understand

1555
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.640
was something to behold, although I never actually got to

1556
01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:57.560
check it out. Richard bruce Hyde's acting career was pretty short.

1557
01:33:58.279 --> 01:34:01.239
I was nine TV guests of appearances and that was

1558
01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:04.960
it back in the late sixties. But I love this

1559
01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:09.359
quote from him. He said in San Francisco when he

1560
01:34:09.479 --> 01:34:11.600
decided to end his acting career. He said, I played

1561
01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:14.319
a hippie and I decided I wanted to be a

1562
01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:17.039
hippie instead of playing one. I was going to get

1563
01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:20.439
a Volkswagen bus and a big bag of brown rice

1564
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:23.199
and go find God. And that's what I did.

1565
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:24.560
Oh that's awesome.

1566
01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:29.359
Wow, funny story. Though he eventually would go on to

1567
01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:34.199
earn a PhD in Rhetoric Communications Studies at the University

1568
01:34:34.239 --> 01:34:36.960
of Southern California and became the chair of the Theater,

1569
01:34:37.039 --> 01:34:40.119
Film Studies, and Dance departments at Saint Cloud State University.

1570
01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:43.399
So that goes to show that you can do Star Trek,

1571
01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:48.840
be a go be a hippie for a while and

1572
01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:51.840
then still get your PhD. So I just love that story.

1573
01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:55.960
Richard bruce Hyde, Happy birthday to you, sir. Happy birthday

1574
01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:00.119
as well. To Jean Daynarski, the actor who appeared twi

1575
01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:04.119
in the TOS, first as Ben Childress in the episode

1576
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:07.600
MUD's Women and as crow Dooc in the Mark of Gideon.

1577
01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:10.600
They also appeared once in Star Trek The Next Generation

1578
01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:12.840
in the episode one one zero zero one zero zero

1579
01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:18.520
one as Quinteros. Dnarski acted in numerous film and television projects,

1580
01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:22.279
most notably Steven Spielberg's nineteen seventy one debut thriller Duel

1581
01:35:22.840 --> 01:35:25.399
and the highly acclaimed nineteen seventy six drama All the

1582
01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:30.920
Presidents Meant Happy Birthday to Jean Donarski. Happy birthday as

1583
01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:34.600
well to Kim Hamilton, the actress and writer who played

1584
01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:39.039
Songy in The Next Generation four season episode Final Mission.

1585
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:42.479
Born in La California, Hamilton started to work as an

1586
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:44.800
actress in the nineteen fifties, and her first film was

1587
01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:48.359
the war drama Something of Value from nineteen fifty seven.

1588
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.199
She also had a lot of guest appearances on television

1589
01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.760
The Practice, The Client, Law and Order in the Heat

1590
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:57.960
of the Night. Are you noticing a theme here? Thinks

1591
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.359
he got cast on law show, So Happy Birthday to

1592
01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:04.479
Kim Hamilton lost back in twenty thirteen, at the rif

1593
01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:07.800
old age of eighty one years old. Happy Birthday as

1594
01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:11.920
well to John Crawford born Cleave Allan Richardson. He was

1595
01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:15.920
the film and television actor who played High Commissioner Ferris

1596
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:20.560
in the TOS first season episode The Galileo Seven. Crawford

1597
01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:24.479
made well over two hundred film and television appearances in

1598
01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:28.479
his career, probably best known for portraying Sheriff Epp Bridges

1599
01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:32.800
on The Waltons and for playing at major slash Colonel

1600
01:36:32.840 --> 01:36:35.640
Harry Thompson in the nineteen seventy nine mini series From

1601
01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:39.039
Here to Eternity. Besides his role on Star Trek, he

1602
01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:41.399
also guest starred on a whole bunch of television shows,

1603
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:43.119
all those ones that you've heard a lot about from

1604
01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:46.800
the sixties and seventies, The Lone Ranger, Gunsmoke, Twilight Zone, etc.

1605
01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:52.239
Among his many featured films, Jason and the Argonaunces included

1606
01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:56.079
The Besidon Adventure, The Towering Inferno, and The Apple Dumpling

1607
01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:59.119
Gang Rides. Again, that last one is the one that

1608
01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:03.920
is not like the Happy to John Crawford, Happy Birthday

1609
01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:07.239
as well to Roy Brocksmith, the actor who played Syna

1610
01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:11.720
Kolrami in Next Generation second season episode Pea Performance and

1611
01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:15.920
Rozka Khn in Deep Space nine's four season episode Indiscretion.

1612
01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:22.119
Lots of movie appearances to Roy Brocksmith's resume like total Recall,

1613
01:37:22.199 --> 01:37:27.039
Scrooged Tangoing Cash, more guest appearances in the nineteen eighties

1614
01:37:27.079 --> 01:37:29.560
on television than you can possibly shake a stick at.

1615
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:33.720
Besides his guest appearances, he was also regular on Picket Fences,

1616
01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:37.479
where he played Michael Oslow for four years from nineteen

1617
01:37:37.560 --> 01:37:41.359
ninety two through nineteen ninety six. Happy Birthday to Roy Brocksmith,

1618
01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:45.760
Happy Birthday to Henry Darrow, the actor who played Admiral

1619
01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:50.199
Savar in Next Generation's first season episode Conspiracy and Cola

1620
01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:54.880
Pac in Voyagers second season episodes Tattoo and Basics Part One.

1621
01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:59.239
In the late sixties, Henry Darrow was the ultimate Latin

1622
01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:02.800
heart throb on television, the very first Hispanic actor to

1623
01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:06.880
portray Zorro on television. He was in a bunch of

1624
01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:10.439
westerns and soap operas along the way being very Sexy.

1625
01:38:11.319 --> 01:38:14.039
In nineteen seventy two, he co founded the Screen Actors

1626
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:19.159
Guild Ethnic Minority Committee with actors Ricardo Montabon, Carmen Zapata,

1627
01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:25.560
and Edith Diaz. Happy Birthday to trailblazer Henry Darrow. Happy

1628
01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:28.560
birthday as well to Morgan Woodward, the actor who played

1629
01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:32.199
Simon van Gelder in the TOS first season episode Dagger

1630
01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:36.000
of the Mind and also Captain Tracy in the second

1631
01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:40.119
season episode The Omega Glory. He broke into television movies

1632
01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:45.199
this in nineteen fifty six, worked steadily all the way

1633
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:47.800
up through the nineties, but he was probably best known

1634
01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:51.680
for his reoccurring role as Punk Anderson on Dallas. Remember

1635
01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:54.760
that show. It was like the nighttime soap opera. I

1636
01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:56.800
watched so much Dallas when I was a kid. My

1637
01:38:56.880 --> 01:39:01.640
parents were really into it. He was awarded the Golden

1638
01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:04.520
Boot Award from the Hollywood Motion Picture and Television Fund

1639
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:06.960
in August of nineteen eighty eight, and in two thousand

1640
01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:09.399
and nine he became an inductee into the Hall of

1641
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:14.920
Great Western Performers at the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum.

1642
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:18.800
That's pretty cool. Happy birthday to Morgan Woodward. We lost

1643
01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:21.600
him back in twenty nineteen at the Ripe Ripe old

1644
01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:25.399
age of ninety three years old. Happy birthday as well

1645
01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:28.279
to Craig Richard Nelson, the actor who played Crag in

1646
01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:31.159
the Next Duration third season episode A Matter of Perspective,

1647
01:39:31.720 --> 01:39:35.640
and a Vaskin arbiter in the Voyager four season episode

1648
01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:39.439
Living Witness, one of my favorite episodes of Voyager. He

1649
01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:43.199
was frequently cast by Robert Altman in the nineteen seventies,

1650
01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:45.640
was on a whole bunch of television Back of the Day,

1651
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:48.640
The Rookie Santa Barbara, Golden Girls, La Law Dallas, Quantum

1652
01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:51.479
Leap Murder, she wrote, and they did a couple movies

1653
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:54.680
along the way, blood Sport from nineteen seventy three, Honeye

1654
01:39:54.680 --> 01:39:57.560
Shrunk the Kids, and he was in Blown Away. Craig

1655
01:39:57.640 --> 01:40:01.920
Richard Nelson, we just lost him back this past March,

1656
01:40:02.439 --> 01:40:05.560
third of March twenty twenty five, at the age of

1657
01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:08.000
seventy seven years old. Happy birthday to Craig Richard Nelson

1658
01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:11.279
and last but not least, on our remembrance this list.

1659
01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:16.039
This week we have Larry Dobkin, the Emmy nominated actor,

1660
01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:20.000
television director and occasional writer and producer who directed the

1661
01:40:20.039 --> 01:40:23.840
original series first season episode Charlie X. We were just

1662
01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:26.359
talking about that tonight. Oh no, we were talking about

1663
01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:28.640
Gary Mitchell. Well, Charlie X is kind of the same thing.

1664
01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:32.279
Twenty five years later, he guest starred as Hell in

1665
01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:35.600
the Next Generation four season episode The Minds I. He

1666
01:40:35.680 --> 01:40:39.960
voiced characters on numerous network television or network radio plays

1667
01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.680
from the nineteen forties through the nineteen sixties, the most

1668
01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:46.199
notable of which was The Saint, for which he played

1669
01:40:46.199 --> 01:40:49.640
the title character sidekick cab driver Louis. And if you

1670
01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:52.640
haven't heard some of those old episodes of The Saint,

1671
01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:55.399
they're fantastic to listen to. You can find them online.

1672
01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:58.479
I've had a number of great movies under his belt,

1673
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:02.760
including twelve o'clock High, north By Northwest, The Defiant Ones,

1674
01:41:02.960 --> 01:41:06.359
and The Ten Commandments. He made the switch to television

1675
01:41:06.399 --> 01:41:09.560
and start all over the place. Retired from directing all

1676
01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:12.640
the way back in nineteen eighty five, but continued acting

1677
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:16.079
until his death from heart failure in two thousand and two.

1678
01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:19.600
Larry Dobkin had a long and storied career with lots

1679
01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:21.239
of stuff going on. You should go check out his

1680
01:41:21.319 --> 01:41:24.800
IMDb page. Happy Birthday to Larry lost back in two

1681
01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:27.439
thousand and two at eighty three years old. And that,

1682
01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:30.199
folks does it for our remembrances this week, So I'm

1683
01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:32.119
not handing the Candle off to Charles, who would like

1684
01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:33.760
to take Charles's birthdays this week?

1685
01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:36.399
How about you? V sure you want to do it?

1686
01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:41.079
All right? So we will wish a happy birthday. Two

1687
01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:46.560
didn't give her birthday. Susan Gibney American actress who was

1688
01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:52.840
born in Manhattan Beach, California. She played Leah Brom slash

1689
01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:57.640
Leah Brom the hologram in The Star Trek Next Gen

1690
01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:02.520
third and fourth season episode odes Booby Trap and the

1691
01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:07.399
Galaxy Child. And that was really awkward when the real

1692
01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:14.439
Leah Brahms discovered Jordie's program. Had you saw herself being all,

1693
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:19.239
you know, interested in Jeordie and all that. It was

1694
01:42:19.359 --> 01:42:24.199
very awkward, but wound up being okay. She also appeared

1695
01:42:24.359 --> 01:42:28.960
as I think it was Captain Benteen in the DS

1696
01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:34.680
nine fourth season episodes home Front and Paradise Laws. That's

1697
01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:38.479
when they were dealing with the changelings. She reprised her

1698
01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:43.520
role as Leah Brahm's voicing an illusory replica of the

1699
01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:47.560
character in The Star Trek Lower Deck's third season episode

1700
01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:54.039
Mining the Mind's Mind Is That Three Times Fast? Next

1701
01:42:54.119 --> 01:42:59.680
we have Tyler Perry born September thirteenth, nineteen sixty nine

1702
01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:06.520
Award winning playwright, screenwriter, actor, director, and author known for

1703
01:43:06.600 --> 01:43:14.720
his comic morality plays. Played Admiral Richard Barnett, Starfleet Academy

1704
01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:20.479
Commandante in Star Trek two thousand and nine. Next we

1705
01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:27.319
have Clyde Khosatsu born September thirteenth, nineteen forty eight, actor

1706
01:43:27.359 --> 01:43:33.000
who played Vice Admiral Nakamura in TG second second season

1707
01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:37.560
episode The Measure of a Man, All about Data and

1708
01:43:38.399 --> 01:43:42.960
If he was I Guess Pension in the seventh season

1709
01:43:43.039 --> 01:43:50.279
episodes Phanfasms and All Good Things. Next we have Christopher

1710
01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:56.119
Niem born September twelfth, nineteen forty seven and British actor

1711
01:43:56.720 --> 01:44:04.319
who played Unfirst in Voyager first season episode Heroes and Demon. Later,

1712
01:44:04.359 --> 01:44:09.399
he portrayed the German general in Enterprise fourth season episode

1713
01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:16.079
storm Front and Storm Front Part Two. Next is Paul F.

1714
01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:22.640
Tompkins September twelfth, nineteen sixty eight American actor, comedian and writer.

1715
01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:26.000
Oh Okay, That's why I know the name. Okay. Doctor

1716
01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:30.840
Gabbers Miglimo in Star Trek Lower Decks and he is

1717
01:44:31.159 --> 01:44:37.640
hilarious Love Doctor Mglimo, where he nukes a replicator and

1718
01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:42.640
curses at it. Anyway. Next we have Ga sam Du

1719
01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:49.520
September fifteenth, nineteen ninety one, a Canadian actress who played

1720
01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:53.880
to Praying in Strange New World. She reprised her role

1721
01:44:54.159 --> 01:45:03.479
in VFT Holiday Party Next. Christian R. Conrad September seventeenth,

1722
01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:08.520
nineteen sixty four an actor who portrayed three different roles

1723
01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:14.159
on Star Trek, h Dunbar in Voyager Futures and Futures

1724
01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:20.680
and Part two, an alien minor in Voyager Homestead, and

1725
01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:28.399
Brilgar in ps. Nine The Darkness and the Light Next.

1726
01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:36.000
Jane Brook September sixteenth, nineteen sixty She portrayed Admiral Katrina

1727
01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:41.800
Cornwell in the first and second seasons of Star Trek Discovery.

1728
01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:48.439
All right, now, onto you, Paul, Thank.

1729
01:45:48.319 --> 01:45:51.680
You, Charles, I mean thank you V.

1730
01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:54.800
Sorry, just call me V Charles. Okay, why not?

1731
01:45:56.439 --> 01:45:56.760
All right?

1732
01:45:56.840 --> 01:45:57.920
Let me see what I can do here. I have

1733
01:45:57.920 --> 01:45:59.760
someone trying to get my attention, but I'm gonnay to

1734
01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:01.039
power through.

1735
01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:05.319
Okay, Yeah, okay, go for it, buddy, Callum.

1736
01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:08.800
Keith Rennie is having a birthday September fourteenth. This actor

1737
01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:12.000
played Rainer and the fifth season of Discovery. Was a

1738
01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:15.640
very cool character and sci fi fans will recognize Calum

1739
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:16.479
Keith Rennie.

1740
01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:19.319
From his ongoing turn on the awesome Ronald.

1741
01:46:19.039 --> 01:46:23.239
Dy Moore series Battlestone in Elected So Say We all

1742
01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:24.479
but really cool actor.

1743
01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:26.000
I like Callum Keith Rennie a lot.

1744
01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:28.640
I think he was a real bright spot of those

1745
01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:32.680
last seasons of Discovery there. Happy Birthday to Miko Martineau,

1746
01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:36.119
actress who played young Philippa Georgiou in Star Trek Section

1747
01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:40.199
thirty one. Yeah, that was the thing, Section thirty one.

1748
01:46:40.399 --> 01:46:43.840
Happy Birthday to Laura Interval, actress who played Aaron Hanson

1749
01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:47.159
in Voyager's fifth season episode Dark Frontier and went on

1750
01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:50.279
to play the Velo in Enterprise second season episode Could Janitor.

1751
01:46:52.159 --> 01:46:55.640
Happy Birthday goes out to Rosemary Morgan, actors from Los Angeles,

1752
01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:59.479
who made her television day acting debut playing Pierri in

1753
01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:03.600
third season episode to Shoot. She's the doctor of original

1754
01:47:03.720 --> 01:47:08.319
series guest star Julie Cobb, who knew. Happy Birthday goes

1755
01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:12.640
out to a movie star, luminary Tom Hardy. Okay, we

1756
01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:15.560
think tend to think of mad Max, Fury Road and

1757
01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:16.279
things like that.

1758
01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:17.840
When we think of Tom Hardy, but oh.

1759
01:47:17.680 --> 01:47:20.720
No, he is the English actor who played shins On

1760
01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:27.159
in All kinds of crazy head Shaved Regalia in Star

1761
01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:29.119
Trek Nemesis. It is hard for me to wrap my

1762
01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:30.880
head around the fact that that is the same actor.

1763
01:47:32.039 --> 01:47:35.079
He really made a name for himself though, and really

1764
01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:38.199
did a lot. But I mean, this is the guy

1765
01:47:38.199 --> 01:47:41.279
who played Baine in Dark Knight Rises. It blows my mind.

1766
01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:45.560
Looks like a different human being. So but I love

1767
01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:49.279
Tom Hardy though, especially as dadical work. Great dude, So

1768
01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:52.399
keep on rocking, Tom Hardy. Happy Birthday out to Ed

1769
01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:57.600
Begley Junior, a very cool cat from Los Angeles, also

1770
01:47:57.680 --> 01:48:02.079
a very passionate environmentalist who played Henry Starling in The

1771
01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.720
Voyager third season episode of Futures and in Futures End

1772
01:48:04.720 --> 01:48:08.760
Part two. Definitely a man who lives by his ethical

1773
01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:11.399
creed in his desire to help make the world a

1774
01:48:11.439 --> 01:48:14.800
better place. So Ed Begley, we salute you, sir. Amazing,

1775
01:48:14.920 --> 01:48:19.439
amazing legacy. Happy birthday goes out to Discovery star Blue

1776
01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:23.800
del Barrio, American actor appears in Star Trek Discovery season

1777
01:48:23.800 --> 01:48:28.079
three and four as Adira Taal. Blue del Barrio is

1778
01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:31.479
non binary and uses they then pronouns and it's probably

1779
01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:36.399
had to endure more toxic grief online than perhaps any

1780
01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:39.920
other Star Trek actor ever, so I don't think that

1781
01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:42.600
they should ever have to prove their bravery in any

1782
01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:46.960
other way. It's kind of you know, you get a

1783
01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:50.199
big role at just exactly the wrong type of time

1784
01:48:50.239 --> 01:48:54.079
in history, perhaps the right time in history to express

1785
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:56.880
the things that people need to have their consciousness.

1786
01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:58.760
We evaluated regarding but.

1787
01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:03.920
Courageous work and by no means an easy role whatsoever.

1788
01:49:04.239 --> 01:49:08.359
But I think we should all tip our hats to

1789
01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:14.079
them for doing such a brave work. And then lastly, no,

1790
01:49:14.239 --> 01:49:17.039
not quite lastly, almost lastly, let's give it up for

1791
01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:22.159
Strange New world luminary. Babs Olussan mukun who I am

1792
01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:26.760
a huge fan of. Babs is a Nigerian American actor

1793
01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:30.439
who plays, of course, doctor Joseph Mabenga on Star Trek

1794
01:49:30.520 --> 01:49:32.880
Strange New Worlds, an original series.

1795
01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:33.760
Character, let's not forget.

1796
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:39.319
And also, if you have not seen the Dnie Villanu

1797
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:43.840
Doune in a while, oh my gosh, is babs Olussan

1798
01:49:43.880 --> 01:49:49.840
mukun in as well phenomenal work, real physical performance, he's

1799
01:49:49.880 --> 01:49:53.640
just great. I just find it impossible to take my

1800
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:57.239
eyes off him when he's on screen. Very hypnotic magnetic performer,

1801
01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:00.800
and then we got legends. Can I give it up

1802
01:50:00.840 --> 01:50:04.560
for a legend about for Walter Koenig, Walter Kanig, I

1803
01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:06.279
would be a lot doing a lot of Space nineteen

1804
01:50:06.319 --> 01:50:09.000
ninety nine ladies, So I'm just saying Koenig, but I

1805
01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:11.760
believe he pronounces it kayig, so you know, different strokes,

1806
01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:14.520
apples and oranges. Walter Kanegh, of course, is the actor

1807
01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:17.800
and writer best known for playing Pavel Chekhof on Star

1808
01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:21.880
Trek from second to thursdayson on. He was the only

1809
01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:24.960
original cast member not to lend his voice to the

1810
01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:28.479
Star Trek animated series What Happened Walter? We would love

1811
01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:30.199
to discuss that with you and find out what really

1812
01:50:30.239 --> 01:50:33.199
went on there. But he still contributed to that show

1813
01:50:33.560 --> 01:50:35.800
by writing the episode The Infinite Vulcan.

1814
01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:37.159
So it's just interesting.

1815
01:50:37.239 --> 01:50:40.000
You know, show bus is a crazy thing, and he

1816
01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:42.319
was probably like I'm done with this, or who knows,

1817
01:50:42.399 --> 01:50:44.239
or maybe he had an illness or something. I don't know,

1818
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:45.800
but it would be great to find out. Always a

1819
01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:49.359
good person to talk Star Trek Walter Kanang, So hopefully

1820
01:50:49.399 --> 01:50:51.720
we get him on the show. But a lot of

1821
01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:53.520
birthdays this time of year. It seems as we turned

1822
01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:55.399
the corner in the fall. So I think I've got

1823
01:50:55.399 --> 01:50:59.319
more birthdays coming from my good friend Uncle Jim. Uncle Jim,

1824
01:50:59.359 --> 01:50:59.640
take it.

1825
01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:05.479
Away, Thank you so much, Paul. I believe he also

1826
01:51:05.680 --> 01:51:10.960
voiced his grandson, the President of the Federation on Star

1827
01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:12.479
Trek Discovery. Didn't he air?

1828
01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:16.119
Yeah, he didn't just voice that, he acted it.

1829
01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:16.920
Yeah.

1830
01:51:17.079 --> 01:51:20.520
Yeah, So he came back on Discovery many many many

1831
01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:22.600
years later. I forgot to put that in the notes

1832
01:51:22.600 --> 01:51:26.760
for Paul. I apologize. Okay, So I usually do the Klingons,

1833
01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:28.840
but I don't have a lot of Klingons, but I

1834
01:51:28.840 --> 01:51:33.279
do have some Klingon esque people on my list. We

1835
01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:39.079
want to start off with Christina Chong born On born

1836
01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:43.399
on September eighteenth, nineteen eighty three. She's the English actress

1837
01:51:43.399 --> 01:51:45.479
who plays La on NOONI and sing on Star Trek.

1838
01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:48.640
E Strange New Worlds? Now, how much more Klingon? She'll

1839
01:51:48.720 --> 01:51:51.640
kick your button, take your name. So that's why she's

1840
01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:54.640
on my list, and she's related to khn So how

1841
01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:57.960
much cooler can you be then that? So Happy birthday

1842
01:51:58.239 --> 01:52:02.720
to Christina Chom. I also want to say, yeah, she

1843
01:52:02.800 --> 01:52:06.319
can dance and she gets mad when people put their

1844
01:52:06.359 --> 01:52:14.039
clean socks in her drawer. So happy birthday. We also

1845
01:52:14.079 --> 01:52:16.960
want to say happy birthday to Jeremy Roberts, who was

1846
01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:20.039
born in September eighteenth. He's the actor who played Lieutenant

1847
01:52:20.079 --> 01:52:23.720
Commander Dmitri val Teyne and Star Trek sixty Undiscovered Country

1848
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:27.680
and Star Trek Voyagers third season episode Flashback and Miso

1849
01:52:27.800 --> 01:52:30.960
Klawn and Start Trek Deep Space nine's fourth season episode

1850
01:52:31.359 --> 01:52:35.000
Hippocratic Oath. Not a Klingon, But why did I grab

1851
01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:37.720
him on my list because we talked to him on

1852
01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:41.960
our podcast and he was so much fun. He was

1853
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:45.359
also in Christmas Vacation with Chevy Chase and he had

1854
01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:48.119
a funny story to tell us about that. So why

1855
01:52:48.159 --> 01:52:50.399
don't you go to Trek talkin dot com and look

1856
01:52:50.439 --> 01:52:52.680
up our interview with Jeremy Roberts and give it a listen.

1857
01:52:52.720 --> 01:52:54.800
He was a lot of fun. I think you'll enjoy it.

1858
01:52:55.159 --> 01:52:59.760
Happy Birthday to Jeremy Roberts. Another one on my list.

1859
01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:02.199
There's not a klingon, but she'll still suck the salt

1860
01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:04.239
out of your ass and a heartbeat. We want to

1861
01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:07.760
say Happy birthday Sandy Gimple. And there she is up

1862
01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:12.359
on the screen the Salt Vampire herself or in September seventeenth,

1863
01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:16.319
nineteen thirty nine. She's the American stuntwoman and stunt actress

1864
01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:19.920
who played in the pilot The Cage as a Telosian

1865
01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:23.079
and the M one thirteen salt creature in The Man Trap.

1866
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:27.760
She was also the Ouvion Queen in Battlestar Galactica, and

1867
01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:33.520
she stunt doubled for Will Robinson on Lost in Space

1868
01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:37.079
and again we interviewed her on our podcast and she

1869
01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:39.880
was a blast to talk to. So go to Chuck

1870
01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:43.159
talkin dot com and look her up because she had

1871
01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:46.520
a lot of great stories about dancing with Elvis Presley,

1872
01:53:46.600 --> 01:53:49.720
for instance. You can find out that story by going

1873
01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:52.439
over and listening to our interview with her. So happy

1874
01:53:52.479 --> 01:53:56.800
birthday to Sandy Gimple and I believe v you had

1875
01:53:56.800 --> 01:53:58.000
an opportunity to meet her.

1876
01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.920
She was very nice. Yeah, just a very nice lady.

1877
01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:07.640
Between meeting her and Sean Kenny, who was the I

1878
01:54:07.920 --> 01:54:11.960
call him the bee Beep Pike that play the Injured Pike,

1879
01:54:12.039 --> 01:54:15.199
that was so cool to meet two people, well the

1880
01:54:15.239 --> 01:54:19.039
type Chattner, but two people from the original series.

1881
01:54:20.840 --> 01:54:23.720
She was cool and in fact, after we had her

1882
01:54:23.720 --> 01:54:27.800
on the podcast. I wrote her a letter and said, hey, Sandy,

1883
01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:29.880
I have a wall of fame with all the people

1884
01:54:29.920 --> 01:54:31.880
that have been on our podcast. Could you send me

1885
01:54:31.920 --> 01:54:34.119
a picture to put up on the wall. And she

1886
01:54:34.239 --> 01:54:37.960
did and it says to uncle Jim, thanks for the conversation,

1887
01:54:38.239 --> 01:54:43.199
I have to go have my salt. Yeah that's pretty cool.

1888
01:54:43.239 --> 01:54:46.560
So thank you so much to Sandy Gimble. And now

1889
01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:49.279
we're going to get into some Klingons. Ah to the

1890
01:54:49.319 --> 01:54:53.760
Hardy Klingons. The first one I think is a great one.

1891
01:54:53.960 --> 01:54:56.439
We want to say happy birthday and kapla to Mary

1892
01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:59.319
Kay Adams, and there she is up on our screen.

1893
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:04.279
On September twelfth, nineteen sixty two, she played Groca on

1894
01:55:04.359 --> 01:55:07.840
Deep Space nine's third and fourth season episodes To the

1895
01:55:07.960 --> 01:55:11.079
House of Cork and Looking for Parmak in All the

1896
01:55:11.159 --> 01:55:17.680
Wrong Places, two phenomenal, phenomenal episodes when Cork is trying

1897
01:55:17.680 --> 01:55:19.439
to be a Klingon and he's hooked up to war

1898
01:55:19.520 --> 01:55:28.600
and he's Mary absolutely hilarious, a great, great character. Mary

1899
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Kay Adams really brought that character to life and I

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love her portrayal. So happy birthday to Mary Kay Adams.

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And last on my list is a Klingon that has

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a connection to a guest that's going to be on

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our show Wednesday or Thursday. Waiting for confirmation, but we

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want to say cup La to Robert Wisdom born in

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September fourteenth, nineteen fifty three, the actor who played Doc

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Ra and starts for Extrange New World second season episode

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Under the Cloak of War, the father of Bitha played

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by Christine Cole, who's going to be on our podcast

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very very very shortly, one of my favorite episodes of

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Strange New Worlds, and we find out the answer, the

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big answer to the big question. Did m Benga kill him? Yes,

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it was confirmed that he did. It was kind of

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left up in the air. We had a trivia question

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about it, we had a poll about it, and he

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confirmed it on shuttle The conf a that yes he

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did kill him. So let's put that to rest, and that,

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my friends, wraps up our star Trek birthdays for this episode.

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I hope you guys had a great time. And we're

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just about out of time. Eric, I'm unless you think

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you can squeeze in a Shatner says what, or we

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can push that to next week.

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I can read this in two and a half minutes.

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Okay, so here we have our our first story. Shatner

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says what, and we turned to Eric.

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Shudder says what. William Shantner is headed back to TV

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and on a expected yet exciting new show. Shatner has

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scores of television credits to his name. Beyond Just James T. Kirk,

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D T. J. Hooker and Boston Legal, the veteran actor

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has starred in countless TV movies, including a few holiday

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themed offerings. One interesting entry was two thousand and three's

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Apparel Christmas, where Shatner's performance is a quirky ghost of

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Christmas past, inspired David E. Kelly to create the character

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of Denny Crane for Shatner. He also starred in the

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cult horror movie A Christmas Horror Story. Shatner has confirmed

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to star and produced the new Pathway Pictures drama d

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series Family Tree. He's co producing with game show host

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Tom Bergeron alongside Nat Bernstein, with Katie Amanda Keene as writer.

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Is going to be directed by Marla Sockloff, who also stars.

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The show is about quote three estranged siblings who reunited

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Christmas to sell their crumbling childhood home, only to discover

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that fixing the house might be the key to repairing

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their fractured family. Sokolov, a veteran of Hallmark slash Lifetime

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Christmas Movies, shared a statement on the series. She says,

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Family Tree is about the kind of healing that only

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happens when you're stuck together with the people who you

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know best and challenge you the most. It's a story

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with grief, growth, and humor wrapped in holiday warmth. Katie,

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Amanda Keene and I have always wanted to collaborate on

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a holiday movie that is rooted in family reality with

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a touch of holiday magic, and I think we accomplished

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that with this script. Shatner added, I'm so pleased to

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be involved in this magical, mysterious Christmas show that celebrates love.

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This may seem an offbeat choice for Shatner's next project,

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yet he's yet It's logical he's holding off on bigger

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stuff at his age. Of course, from going on a

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space shot last year to his podcast and planning a

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new book on fan interactions, Shatner isn't exactly quitting, and

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this movie seems to be a fun lark. The series

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is set to begin production in early twenty twenty six

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for a holiday release next year. Still, it's nice that

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even at ninety four years old, William Shatner is still

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doing some good movies and has no signs of slowing

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down anytime soon. I can't wait to see it.

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Bill.

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I'm a little bit of a sucker for these Hallmark movies.

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I'm not gonna lie.

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I hope he does it the right way.

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I'm sure.

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All right, guys. Well, that wraps up our podcast for tonight.

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Thank you so much for joining us. I want to

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say thank you to Paul for hanging out and Trek

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talking with us. Thank you so much, Paul. It was

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it was really fun. And wow that Christmas music.

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That movie sounds great, doesn't It sounds amazing.

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It's gonna be a great movie. It's gonna win Emmys

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and style.

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They should pretty much just cancel the Oscars.

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Can just give everything to this.

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You know, don't don't don't, don't underestimate it.

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Paul, Oh, I don't.

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I look and.

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I hear, I hear rumor that that Shatner has written

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Sidebok into this movie as a Christmas ghost, so.

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Of Christmas. Yes, we know. Star Trek five is the

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best star Trek Movie.

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The Dictionary of like psychiatric ailments?

1987
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Is there an ailment when.

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You're repetitively obsessed on the same thing constantly, over and

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over and all the time? Look for any used to

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you know? The mail is like that reminds me of

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Star Trek five. Oh my eggs, my egg is me

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too rotten? And reminds me of five?

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Did you? I thought I was the only one. I

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think it's as.

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You've got to get a recognized ailment, you know, Jim, Yeah,

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the patient zero five?

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Don't they have a d f M five?

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Yeah? Five? I still think of the Yeah, you're right.

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I don't know how I know that.

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Because people keep getting crazy. Well yeah, new volume.

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Oh wow.

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Oh. And of course, thank you so much to Eric

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for hanging out in Trek talking with us tonight. Thank

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you Eric.

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Yeah you bet. It was a lot of laughs tonight.

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That was fun.

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And of course thank you to V for enlightening us.

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Thank you, VV.

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You're welcome, Thanks for the laugh.

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Thank you so much to David. It was fun. It

2011
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was fun for sure, different kind of show for us,

2012
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but fun. And thank you to David for being with

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us and hanging out and putting up all these videos

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for us. Thank you, David.

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It's been a lot of fun. I don't think we've

2016
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laughed as hard for a while on a podcast, have we.

2017
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He's in our mind. So for next week, I have

2018
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spoken with uh with miss Horn who played Bitha in

2019
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the shuttle to Confoa. She said she wanted to come

2020
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on the show on Wednesday, but gave me the eight

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for Thursday. I'm trying to confirm whether she wants to

2022
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be on Wednesday or Thursday. I haven't heard back yet,

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but we are going to be talking about the con

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drama series episode one, so whether we have her on

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to check our Facebook page. I'll clarify that as soon

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as I have information. But we will be back next week.

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We'll either have a awesome cling on with us or

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we're going to talk about con one or the other.

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But we will be back on Thursday. So that my

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friends wraps up the show. I'm the most excellent host,

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Uncle Jim saying to everybody, please stay safe and be

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good to each other, and remember Star Trek fans are

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the best fans. Good Night, everybody, good night.

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Dumb sort to censor our first Amendment right ready.

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To department, Sir some problem RCA, just hoping this isn't

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the usual way our missions will go.

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Sir oh no, enough, but what I'm sure this will

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be much more interesting. Let's see what's out there.

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Engage open