March 28, 2025

Episode 629 - Retro Flashback- Voyager "Message in a Bottle"

Episode 629 - Retro Flashback- Voyager "Message in a Bottle"

In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and the cohosts celebrate the return of baseball while introducing the show and its segments. They engage with fans through shoutouts and poll questions, discussing ethical dilemmas in Star Trek Voyager's...

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Star Trek Voyager

In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and the cohosts celebrate the return of baseball while introducing the show and its segments. They engage with fans through shoutouts and poll questions, discussing ethical dilemmas in Star Trek Voyager's 'Message in a Bottle.' The conversation highlights character interactions, the importance of risk-taking in leadership, and the unique elements of the episode, including the EMH's role and the introduction of new adversaries. In this episode, the hosts discuss various aspects of Star Trek, particularly focusing on the humor, action, and character dynamics in Voyager episodes. They share their favorite episodes, highlight standout performances, and delve into the production design and continuity issues within the series. The conversation also includes a segment remembering notable figures in Star Trek, including DC Fontana and Leonard Nimoy, celebrating their contributions to the franchise. In this episode, the hosts celebrate the birthdays of various Star Trek actors, including Amanda Plummer and Sonequa Martin-Green. They discuss recent news in the Star Trek universe, including updates on upcoming projects like Starfleet Academy and a live-action comedy by Tawny Newsome. The episode wraps up with a discussion on the nominations for Lower Decks and the future of Star Trek. Let's see what's Out there...Engage!

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Make it so, everybody, let's go about this series.

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You us life up the phone, now.

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About the series.

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I'm coming to the Uree services. Now talk about the series.

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How cooks me off the Row? Now?

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Well, good evening, Trekkies and trekkers around the globe. It's Thursday,

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March twenty seventh, twenty twenty five. Welcome to MLB Opening Day.

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I'm sorry, Welcome to trek Talking episode six hundred and

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twenty nine. Mean reds Well, I'm where am i Mets

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right here? And the Mets lost their second home opener

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in a row, and it's the first time it's happened

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since two thousand. But boy is it great to have

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baseball back. I'm so excited. I love me my baseball.

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Before we get too far, though, I'd like to go

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around and introduce you all my awesome trek sperts, and

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we'll start off with Eric. Eric is out in Portland.

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How you doing tonight? Eric?

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I am doing good tonight, Jim. I just came off

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three days of vacation and I'm feeling refreshed, ready to

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talk about some star trek t talking.

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And we also have from Portland, Paul. How you doing tonight, Paul,

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Welcome to the show.

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A migos, good to see you, good to be here.

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Lots of fun. And we also have in Portland, David.

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I think there's something in the water. He's our miracle work.

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Or how you doing tonight, David?

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Good? Pretty good? Yeah, go baseball. I'm voting for.

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Go Niners. Yup. And the last but definitely not at

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least we have a very own Charles and Charles is

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not in Las Vegas. How you doing tonight, Charles?

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I'm doing good. Happy. The temperatures are dropping a little bit.

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Wouldn't be a very foot baseball game this early in

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the year in the heat and local aviators and the

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future Las Vegas.

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A's that's right, You're getting your getting a major league

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team out there. That's pretty cool. But we'll get him.

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You'll get him, you get them. As I said, this

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is episode six hundred and twenty nine. You can go

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without any further ado, I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim,

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And on tonight's show, we're going to do something a

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little different. We're going to do a retro flashback episode.

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That's right, We're going to go back and take a

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look at the Star Trek Voyager episode Message in a Bottle.

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I don't think we reviewed that one yet, so we're

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going to do it tonight. We also have our Fans

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shout outs and that's where we thank our fans around

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the globe just like you. And we also have our

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poll questions. It's like would you sacrifice your emh and

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what would it take for a Klingon to lose his honor?

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I wonder what that could be about. We also have

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our Star Trek Birthdays where you can find out what

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Star Trek actor you share a birthday w and what's

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going on around the Star Trek universe. We have another

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shatner says what story Star Trek wants to broaden its appeal?

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What would a klingon living next door be doing? Lower

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decks gets nominated for an award and red Shirts Red

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Shirts Red Shirts. So while you're at our Facebook page,

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there's a little pin post at the top of Livelong

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and Prosper, go and click on that and tell us

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where you're listening from and look for a little part

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emoji next to your name, and that means that you're

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going to be mentioned in a future fan shout out

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And Eric, would you like to get us started with

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our fan shout outs?

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I would love to get us started gym. This week,

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I decided to add my own fan shout out to

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the top of my list because I have made a

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new friend. I would like to say hello and Livelong

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and Prosper sir to Rick Villareal at the Itty Biddy

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Hotel in North Bend, Oregon. If you haven't heard of

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the Itty Biddy Hotel, they have an awesome Star Trek

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theme room there, Room seventeen oh one. You could stay there.

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Give Rick a call. Rick sent me this awesome T

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shirt from the Itty Bitty Inn, so go check him

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out in North Bend, Oregon. Lord knows, the next time

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I go on vacation I will be heading down to

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North Bend myself.

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Didn't we do a news story about that place on

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one of the podcasts years ago?

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I thank you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that red shirt.

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It is a red shirt, but it's a next generation

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red shirt, so I'm all good.

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So your shirt.

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So hey, Rick, nice to meet you, man, and I

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can't wait to meet you in person. I'd also like

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to say hello this week to one of our greater

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fans here, Guda Braga, who sang hello to us from

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sal Paolo, Brazil, one of those amazing cities that I

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can't wait to go to someday. As well, also saying

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hello this week to Nellie Burke Nielsen, who is shouting

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us out from Odenza, Denmark, sending us that live long

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and prosper sign as well as that amazing Danish flag.

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I'm sure that's exactly what got Jim's attention. Thank you,

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Nelly Burke Nielsen for saying hello to us. I'd like

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to also say hello this week to Sylvia Familia Bergamini

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from Idealia from the city of Modena. I have not

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been to Modena, but I know I've been to Italy

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a couple of times, and that is one amazing country. People.

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You need to go check it out. So much awesome architecture,

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and as an architect, I super appreciate buildings that are

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twenty five hundred years old. Thanks Sylvia for saying hello

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to us. And last, but not least, on my list,

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I'm saying hello to Hiko Singer, who is saying hello

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to us from North Korea. And Hiko, you are the

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very first person to say hello to us from North Korea,

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and I am putting you on the list and today's

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date because I super appreciate anybody who is able to

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say hello to us from countries like North Korea. Thank

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you so much, Hiko. So Charles, I'm gonna swing over

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your way and say who would you like to say

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hello to?

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Oh, thank you Eric. Let's start off with a warm

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welcome to Amy Picnic from right here in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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I don't know if I know Amy, but I looked

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at her on Facebook and she's friends with many of

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the crew members that I am I work with, so

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very happy, very warm welcome to Chuck Harris from glenn Allen, Virginia,

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south of where I have family up north in Winchester.

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A very warm welcome to Josh test Chuck from International Falls, Minnesota.

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And last on my list, a very warm welcome to

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Shannon Fleck from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. David, I bet you want

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to talk about a few Americans too.

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Yeah, let me get on my awesome glasses here so

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I can at least, you know, get on to board

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with you guys.

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Let's see.

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I want to say one and welcome to Stephen the

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Accioli from Johnston, Rhode Island. Another one welcome goes down

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to Alfred Worley Bolse, I want to say from Peoya, Arizona, USA.

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Nexte On Militia is one. Welcome out out to Wayne Boo.

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I think how you pronounce it Boo from Ohio, USA.

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Last on my list is one welcome to Brian Mabury

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from Fort Worth, Texas. And Paul, who's on your list?

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Thank you, my friend. Appreciate the intro here, and we've

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got you know, let's open up the gates. We've got

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friends and star trek afisionados all over the planet, not

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just here in America, so we have folks everywhere. First

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of all, let's say hello to our good friend Johanna

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girz Al in Trezevnikia, Poland flag flying right proudly there

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in Chris Benika from Johanna. Great to hear from you.

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Thank you so much for saying hello and for being

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a fan of all things related to stimetrack on another

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part of the globe where you can find some of

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the best steaks and wines on the planet. Actually, in

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good old Argentina, it's our buddy, Axel, Frederico Da. It's

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a I hope I'm pronouncing that correct, Axel, but triple

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shot of the Argentine flag there. But amazing part of

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the world. I am looking forward to visiting at some point.

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Your cuisine is infamous, my friend. So great to hear

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from you, Axel. Moving back over to the European continent,

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it's t Bar Colazar from Hungary. Everyone is displaying their

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flags very proudly these days, which is nice to see.

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And Hungary is an amazing culture, amazing country, and Ti

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Bar it's great to know that there are star Trek

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fans there as well, pretty much everywhere you look, it seems.

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And finally for me, it's Elena Punovic from Belgrade, Serbia.

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So not just too far down the road there to

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keep us in the same continental boundaries. So hello, hey, Elena,

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and it's wonderful to know that there is enthusiasm for

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Star Trek and good science fiction all across the planet,

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wherever you may live.

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Uncle Jim, why, thank you so much, Paul. I'm going

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to finish up our fans shout outs by saying hello

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and thank you to Kathleen Helio who's listening to us

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in the great state of New Jersey. Thank you so much,

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Ron Gooder, who's listening to us in Wyoming. I also

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want to say hello and thank you to Bill Rogers

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in Knoxville, Tennessee. And last, but not least on my list,

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I want to say hello and thank you to Kelly D.

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Davis in southern Maryland. And that, my friends, wraps up

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our polls for this week. If you'd like to hear

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your name mentioned down a pole, just head over to

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our Facebook page, click on the link, and tell us

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where you're from. Also, you may notice all these pictures

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going by while we do our fans. There's Eric and

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I at trek kandor Roga a couple of years ago. Yes,

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he touched my bat lift. And there's my good friend

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Jp from Kind of Dog. You can send your pictures

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in and we will put your pictures right there with

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ours on our fans shout out section, So please think

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about doing that. And now I think it's time for

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some Star Trek polls.

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You know me like no win what you thought about

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Then we try.

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To share your opinions with all of our.

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So tell us just what you think. Get together, we.

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Will alter Canara and robyln An.

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What an awesome, awesome song. Eric, I gotta say, you.

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Know, it's funny because the first time they ever talk

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about Canar on Star Trek they call it Kanar, but

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then later they sort of retkon it and they call

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it Kanar. So I had to make a choice, and

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it felt like Canar was the one that they used

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the most often, So that's.

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What I went with.

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Well, I think it's a Southern dialect.

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It might be.

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That's what I think it might be.

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It might be.

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So every week, guys on our Facebook page. I try

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to come up with interesting and fun questions. Sometimes they're philosophical,

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sometimes they're just fun. And in honor of tonight's episode,

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which we're going to be talking about Star Trek Voyager

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Message in a Bottle, I wanted to have some fun

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with that episode. So, Eric, what do we have for

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our first whole question tonight?

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Yeah, this is a great question. I feel like I'm

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gonna forego my own opinion because I kind of want

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to talk about this when we review the episode. But

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on the Voyager episode Message in a Bottle, Captain Janeway

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decides to send the EMH the only medical personnel on board.

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I mean, unless you count Tom Paris, but he doesn't

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really count on a potential one way mission. Do you

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agree with her decision to send him? And this is

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great because it's not a landslide. Sixty eight percent of

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our responders said, yes, absolutely, it was worth the risk.

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But you know, a solid thirty two percent of our

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responders said, I don't know. You kind of need to

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have a doctor on board, and he's really the only one,

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so maybe you should not send him sixty thousand light

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years to a different quadrant of the galaxy. So I

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really appreciate the response on this and the fact that

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it's kind of a two thirds one third split. It

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feels about right to me. So I will reserve my

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own opinion on the details of that until later in

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the show. But I think it's a solid response for people,

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and I kind of liked that it wasn't a landslide.

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Well how about you, Paul, would you send your emh

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all the way through the Herogin system.

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Well, it's a question of the stakes, right, I mean,

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here's the situation. It's not like they're just on a

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regular routine mission, right. They are marooned, you know, gazillions

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of light years away. That's an official UH Federation measurement,

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by the way, the gazilion, I mean, their way the

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hell and gone from home.

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Right.

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And normally, you know, you'd probably be a little bit

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more reticent to send a key person who that's there,

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you're one person who can do that. But but this

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happened really fast. They got a rare window and there's

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the whole ticking clock thing that basically seven is keeping

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track of on this episode. You know, we got a

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few minutes to do this, right, So they made it

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make a really hasty decision, that window opportunity to take

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advantage of that frequency that shows up. You know that

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will only respond with holographic whatever is fleeting, right, So

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they got to act quickly on there. And it's you know,

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I think that the fact that they are lost and

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so far from home. It's like the one shot. You

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got to roll the dice some dimes, right, and they

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were And that's kind of who Jane Way is. It's

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keeping with her, right, You got to roll the dice

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or you wouldn't have. You know, if you play it safe,

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you'll never freaking get home. So sometimes you have to

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take risks. And to quote Captain James T. Kerr, risk

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is our business, gelem, So you know, I mean that's

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what it's all about. Right. Also, there would be no

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freakin' plot if she hadn't sent him, so it's kind

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of necessary that he goes.

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Right.

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It's not like it's an ethical conundrum. It's the it's

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a catalyst inciting incident of the show. But you know,

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I mean they had to write, I mean, so what

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are you gonna do? And you know it's not like

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she said, you're going to do this or I'll disconnect you, right,

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She asked him, would you please go? Given our situation,

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and you know, when your boss says could you please

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do something, it's kind of like you don't really have

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a whole lot of choice, right, you kind of just go.

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That's my take on it.

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All right, So Paul agrees with the minions. How about you, David?

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What Paul said? Okay, but I do have to agree though, Yes,

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I'm gonna say absolutely to send him because you make programs.

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I know that this is supposedly apparently the computer version

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of the future, and it's really hard to make another hologram.

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I mean, Kim and Parish tried to make another one,

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but they couldn't get a bed side man at the

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work or something. So yeah, but apparently there's a lot

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more to it than that. But other than that, Yeah,

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I totally agree with Paul that. Yeah, and the minions, Yeah,

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send him out, Okay, just to wish.

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All right, so we got two minion votes.

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How about you, Charles, Well, look at this being a

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season four and they're supposed to be about four years

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out and have had no communications with Starfleet.

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This was the first chance, so he actually got attempt

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a chance to attempt to speak to Starfleet doctors is

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only a hologram on board ship, unlike Christopson for a

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ship who had multiple holograms. They have one. So he's

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the only only crewmember who could go and they needed

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to do They needed to try this mission so they

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could sit there, maybe get some communications. So yes, it

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need to be done.

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Wow. Okay, so we got three minions and uh, mister

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star Trek five guy is going to be the outlier

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because I'm not with the Minions. If it was my

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ship and I was the captain and we were that

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far away from home and he was my only medical personnel,

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I would not risk him just to send a message.

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And if I if I remember correctly, Eric can I'm

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not a huge Voyager fan, so I might be wrong here, Eric.

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But in the first season episode Eye of the Needle,

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did they not send messages through a micro wormhole to

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a romulant dude who delivered the messages to Starfleet.

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There was some of that. Yes, yes, technically, you are

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correct they did. They were able to send limited number

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of messages. They went around, they asked the crew to

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and they all collected messages and kind of sent them

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all at once. So there was a little something there.

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There may be we'll talk about that later too. There

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may be a little bit of an inconsistency with that

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particular episode and some of the things that Janeway says

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in this episode. But you know, yeah, I still think

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it's a good thing that they were able to send

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messages here.

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So I'm not with Dominions. I wouldn't have resked it

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because if someone gets hurt, like Paul said, you're still

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a long long way from home. That's a long journey

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to make. With Tom Parris is your only mess expertise.

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I mean, he can barely take care of a hangnail.

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So I wouldn't have done it. So that's my take,

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and Eric is gonna refuse himself from that one. So

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we have three now and one against Dominions. And what's

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our next pole question?

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All right?

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The next pole question is another good one. In the

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TNG episode Sins of the Father, the Klingon Council wrongly

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accuses Wharf's father Mogue, of being a romulent spy to

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protect Duros. Do you agree with them?

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Dura?

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Seven percent of our responders say yes, they agree with

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that old Klingon Council, but a solid ninety three percent

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of our responders say, heck, no, you don't accuse somebody

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of something wrong just to like save face or whatever

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you're trying to do. With Duros there who said yes,

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I gotta believe it was only like one or two

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people guys.

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All right, Paul, So what do you think did the

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Klingons do the right thing by dishonoring Wharf's father?

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No, because the absolutely not No, Because the Klingon High

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Council in this era of Star Trek is like you know,

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the current iteration of Congress right there. They are as

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corrupt and a moral as the day is long. Right,

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They're all on the payoff, right, It's all about now,

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how much money can I make doing this thing? The

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zero ethical accountability. They're weasels with a capital W. None

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of them can be trusted. And they do this whole

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thing ostensibly to protect the greater honor of the good.

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But no, it's basically you know, doing bad to somebody

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after they're gone, know, besmirching their reputation, you know, going

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against the very concept of what honor is. Old school

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Klingons back in the day would have had all these

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bastards executed.

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With that question.

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It would be like no, you're going against honor. You

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you you've you know, I'm permanently eighty six and you

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from Stovegore. You will never even so much to set

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your foot in the door. You're gone. Yeah, So that's

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absolutely uh you know, that's that's what's so great about

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this multi episode arc of Next Gen though, the whole

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kling On Civil War thing, it's just kind of showing that,

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you know, at some point, oh God died just say

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civil war after besmirching the modern GOP Congress. Yes, I

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think probably I did. Yeah, you just cannot continue to endure, right,

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this is this level of corruption and at some point,

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like if you you know, uh, you have a cardboard

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box and you keep putting front of crap into it

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right all the time, you never keep it clean, the

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bottom will eventually crumble and erode and collapse and everything

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will just fall out. And that's where we are, and

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that's where uh, that's where that iteration of the Klingon

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High Council was super corrupt and deserving of death by battless,

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if not worse.

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All Right, so Paul is with the minions yet again.

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How about you, David?

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No, oh yeah, I am yeah, no, because I'm voting no,

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I'm not not yes, I'm voting no.

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Right with the right, Okay, just making sure you're with

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the ninety It was ninety three percent, right, Eric, Yeah,

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ninety three. How about you, David?

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I would have to say that the Council was also

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wrong in accusing war for his father. I mean the

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information they had in the time when they couldn't find

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proof that heired the Maromulant five for instance, I mean

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sure they probably did it then because of the fact

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that the information is what paramount in this whole situation.

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So for me, now that we know how in what happened,

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I would have to say, you know, yeah, I would

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have to be within the ninety three percent as well,

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because that whole situation was all informational.

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So yeah, all right, there you have it. How about you, Charles,

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where do you fall on this list?

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Well, how do you use it? Sit there and dishonor

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the dead? You dishonor and disrespect the dead because they

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cannot defend themselves. He couldn't be there to sit there

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and say he did or didn't do it, and we

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find out later that it was to hide the real

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person who did do it. So no, I don't think

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it was respectful or the thing to do. And I

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agree with the minions.

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All right, well so we got three minions and yeah,

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I'm going to be with the minions too, because I

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think that as soon as they found out that it

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was Duras that had worked with the Romulans to set

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that whole thing up and caused all the Klingons to

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be murdered, why would they cover that up? What would

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It's dishonorable? Klingons think that Romulins are a waste of skin?

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Isn't that what Warf said about them? So in order

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for the High Council to side with Duros, you know

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and the Romulans is there's no words for it. It's

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beyond dishonor. So yeah, I'm with Dominions on this one

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as well. How about you, Eric, you get the Caboos.

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Yeah, I can't disagree with you guys at all. I mean,

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kim Peck and all those guys from the High Council

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back then. You'll remember that they do a lot of

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name calling of Wharf in that episode, and they talk

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about how he's not really a Klingon because he grew

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up in the Federation and all of this kind of stuff,

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and so there's absolutely some I guess that's not exactly racism,

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but it's it's akin to that. It's like somebody who's

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growing up in a different culture and his own culture

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kind of you know, berating him for that, and they

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do that to give themselves justification to blame Mogue. And

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in my minds, I completely agree with Paul, Like, you know,

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if you accuse somebody of being guilty who's not even guilty,

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then that's the very definition of being corrupt. Right, So, yeah,

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they were one hundred percent corrupt, one hundred percent in

466
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.960
the wrong. I'm with the ninety three percent, no question.

467
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.720
And when when, if I remember the episode correctly, when

468
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:38.119
Warf goes to Gown and notifies him that the council

469
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:42.240
was aware of it, I'm not Garon is shocked. He says,

470
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:47.279
the council knew, and so he didn't even Gon was

471
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:47.880
shocked at.

472
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:51.799
The council the most like straight edge guy anyway, exactly.

473
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:55.640
So, yeah, when.

474
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.119
Somebody who's kind of corrupt says that corruption is happening

475
00:26:58.160 --> 00:26:59.200
and acknowledges it, and.

476
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:04.720
You know it really bad, there's something deep going on there. Yeah,

477
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.480
all right, guys, So those are our poll questions. I

478
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:10.599
did put up a question on our Facebook page, not

479
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:12.480
actually a poll, but I asked you what you thought

480
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:15.759
about messaging a bottle to get a fans score for it.

481
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.079
And you know, our Facebook page is nowhere near what

482
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:21.039
it used to be, so we didn't get as many

483
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.880
responses as I would like. But what did our fans

484
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.000
have to say about it? And what was their overall

485
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:28.519
score of message in a Bottle?

486
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.920
Eric, Well, we got three good responses that we're going

487
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:35.039
to share with the fans here. James Brice said that

488
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.920
Jane Way was reckless, which I think goes to that

489
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:42.799
very first poll that we talked about. Michael Wilson says

490
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:44.960
they really should have been aware that the EMH had

491
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:49.680
a backup in Living Witness. Hello, he literally could have

492
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.880
been in two places at once. Yes, that is true,

493
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.519
but you know, like Paul was saying, like, if you

494
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.799
don't do the thing, then you don't even have a show.

495
00:27:57.880 --> 00:27:59.880
So it's you know, this is one of those suspension

496
00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:04.079
of disbelieve. Cannon doesn't always have to be canon. Anybody

497
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.000
who gets kind of like totally embedded in all of

498
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.759
the minutia of what's happened in past episodes is probably

499
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:13.960
missing the point of particular episodes. So thank you Michael

500
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.079
for pointing that out. And top fan Ryan Thorne said,

501
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.640
nice way to present a new ship. The image episode

502
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.200
was good, of course he's talking about the USS Prometheus.

503
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:28.039
Of the responses that we did get for this episode,

504
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.240
a lot of people liked it. It was a nine

505
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:34.880
point seven out of ten, and that's pretty high. So

506
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:35.440
there you go.

507
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.880
All right, Paul has a common I just got to

508
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:44.319
say to our fan who weighed in there, Okay, chronologically, okay,

509
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.720
Living Witness as an episode takes place several episodes after

510
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:54.160
Message in a model, Okay, So the implication was that

511
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:57.559
that whole backup thing that they mentioned was something that

512
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.599
they probably upgraded to this whole thing realizing that.

513
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.359
Wow, rev Living Witness takes place like hundreds of years

514
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:05.119
later too, right.

515
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:07.640
Right, That's that's way a whole different and further down

516
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:08.880
in the episode chronology.

517
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:09.119
Right.

518
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.079
So it's just like they wouldn't be aware of that

519
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.960
because I don't think they've installed that safety countermeasure yet, right,

520
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:16.880
which I think it's meant to be implied that that's

521
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.680
something they did as a result of this episode, right,

522
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.440
You know. So I'm sorry, Michael Wilson, but I gotta

523
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.000
I gotta go with episode chronology is My is My

524
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:27.839
Weather vo?

525
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:28.839
Yeah.

526
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:30.759
I also wanted to add in something there too, because

527
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.920
I believe Balana actually mentioned that they couldn't back up

528
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.119
you Make program because there was just too much data

529
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.279
and on board the ship you can only have so

530
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.440
much data face available.

531
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:46.200
And so I believe it's pronounced data David data.

532
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:56.960
Data Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

533
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.880
I looked it up. That Message in the Bottle is

534
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:03.759
season four, episode fourteen. Living Witness is season four episode

535
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.319
twenty three.

536
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.680
Yeah, many episodes later, hundreds of years in the future

537
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:11.279
there we got all right.

538
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.920
So Eric, when I asked what we wanted to discuss,

539
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.440
Eric jumped on this episode a Message in a Bottle.

540
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.480
So would you like to get us started and why

541
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:24.279
you chose this one and start off your review?

542
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:25.319
Yeah?

543
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.079
Sure, so I think Message in a Bottle is not

544
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.480
one of these episodes that's kind of like an epic

545
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:35.319
two parter of which star Trek Voyager is famous. I mean,

546
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.880
don't get me wrong, like episodes like Scorpion and that

547
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.759
kind of stuff are really amazing and epic and have

548
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.759
all this thing but there's so many things about this

549
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.440
episode that I really really like, I kind of want

550
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.359
to start at the end and work my way backwards.

551
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.200
So what I'm left with at the end of this

552
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.759
episode is that the crew has been out in the

553
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.000
Delta Quadrant, sixty thousand light years from home for four years.

554
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:05.880
They have had aside from the one little blip here

555
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:10.359
that one of our one of our responders was talking about,

556
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.480
they basically have had no contact or no, it's Jim

557
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.480
who brought it up. They basically had no contact with everybody.

558
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.960
And in fact, in this episode they mentioned that Voyager

559
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:25.319
was declared lost fourteen months prior to this episode, So

560
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.960
as far as everybody's family knows, as far as Starfleet knows,

561
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:35.440
the Voyager is dead and gone. And one of the

562
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.160
things that I think Voyager is just really good at

563
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.960
doing is bringing this kind of like human element into

564
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.400
the crew and the ways that they respond to things.

565
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:48.960
First of all, Janeae is a fantastic captain and she

566
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.599
does make a lot of really really tough decisions. And

567
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.799
when it comes to our poll, for example, you know,

568
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.039
was it worth the risk of sending the EMH your

569
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:04.240
only doctor six light years to deliver this message that

570
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.279
in my mind, the answer is heck yeah, it was

571
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.519
absolutely necessary, much in the same way that Tim Russ

572
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.400
several weeks ago when we had him on the show,

573
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.480
said that it was absolutely necessary that two vics be

574
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:18.400
split back into two people for the safety of the crew. Right,

575
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:21.839
This was a safety of the crew issue. And Jim

576
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.640
correctly also brought up that it wasn't like she forced

577
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.240
the doctor to it. To do it, I think with

578
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.640
thirty five seconds left on the clock or something, the

579
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.799
doctor was finally like, Okay, yes, I will do it.

580
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.279
And I think the doctor did it for his own motivations.

581
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.319
I mean, he kind of had already requested at some

582
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.359
point several episodes and maybe even a year before after

583
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.880
he got his mobile emitter, he had requested several other

584
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.240
you know, away missions. He wants to go off and

585
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.920
have a He's been on for four years. He has

586
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.839
developed this personality, this sentience to him, and so he

587
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:03.480
was actually a little bit trepidacious, but like generally speaking,

588
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.759
was all in on this type of an adventure. And

589
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.559
as for him being the only doctor on board, well

590
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.039
even Henry Kim kind of alludes to that a little

591
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.039
bit where he hands the pad over to Tom and

592
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:20.160
tells him to start learning Gray's anatomy. Right, Doctoring is

593
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.519
a learned thing. Anybody can learn to be a doctor

594
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.279
if they put the time and effort into it. And

595
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.799
will there be some rough patches between now and then,

596
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.119
you know, somebody cuts their arm off all of a sudden,

597
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.759
the Jefferies Tube like, maybe nobody can operate on them

598
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:36.799
for a while. Yes, but the possibility of getting everybody

599
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.359
home when they are impossibly far from home is well

600
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.839
worth the risk of sending somebody like the EMH back

601
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:49.319
to the alpha quadrant. So so I love that part

602
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.319
of it, and I love that they sort of end

603
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:56.839
up at the end being able to recommunicate with their families. Now,

604
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:58.400
let me back up and talk about some of the

605
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.920
other cool things I love about this episode. I think

606
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.279
that it's important and I will talk maybe more about

607
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:06.400
this in a little bit about the actor who played

608
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:11.039
EMH two. However, in this episode, I really do like

609
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:17.159
the interaction between Robert Briccardo's EMH and Andy Dick's EMH.

610
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.880
It's almost like a It's not quite Abbot and Costello,

611
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.360
but it's got that same kind of comedic flavor to

612
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.079
it right where they're they're bouncing off each other, they're

613
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.239
playing off each other. They both kind of have no

614
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.480
idea what they're doing. They're really grumpy with each other.

615
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.880
There's a lot of really cool, like comedic flare that

616
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.320
sort of comes out in this episode between those two characters.

617
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.039
We also have a very excellent kind of side story

618
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:47.679
with Balana and seven of nine where Blan is finally

619
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.719
you know, she's all. The episode literally starts with her

620
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.880
talking to Chakota about how impossible it is to deal

621
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.360
with seven of nine, and Chakota is like, listen, you're

622
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.599
a senior off you got to learn how to deal

623
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.320
with this and you got to figure something out. Sorry,

624
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.440
figure it out, and she does. She eventually sits, and

625
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:13.639
she talks to seven of nine, clues seven of nine

626
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:18.079
into the fact that she is being rude, and I

627
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:22.440
you know, seven of nine's personality is not that different

628
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.840
from a lot of people I think in real life

629
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.400
who just don't have enough self reflection in them. And

630
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.519
it's through no fault of their own, it's just their

631
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.079
own personality. It's their own mental makeup and that sort

632
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.840
of stuff where they just don't know how they appear

633
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:44.719
to other people in the world. And the fact that

634
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.800
Blana chooses to actually go and talk to seven of

635
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.079
nine about it and kind of let her know what's

636
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:54.960
going on. That's being a good friend. That's being totally responsible.

637
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.559
That's not only kind of dealing with Balana's own internal

638
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.559
you know, hang ups about seven of nine, but it's

639
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.199
also just letting seven of nine know what's up. Girl.

640
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:11.400
You are being rude people. Remember how people like look

641
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.239
at you and they're kind of like seven of nine

642
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.159
is like, yeah, because I was a borgon Blana is like, actually,

643
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.039
it's not the problem. The problem is that you're just

644
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:25.119
straight up rude. And I think that after this, as

645
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:28.519
we go forward, like seven of Nne definitely holds on

646
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.280
throughout all the way up until Picard comes out, holds

647
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:36.440
onto some of that kind of stodginess or you know,

648
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:42.480
that that kind of like not quite personable nature. But

649
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:44.599
I think that she starts to evolve, and I do

650
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.320
think this is this conversation that she has with Balana

651
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:49.559
is one of the things that kind of gets her

652
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.920
going in the correct direction. And then I guess, lastly,

653
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.880
what I want to bring up is just Jane way

654
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.360
you know, I love the fact that she gets really

655
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.639
excited whenever an opportunity comes up. In Voyager. You know,

656
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:08.079
they discover microwormholes, they discover communications relays, they do all

657
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:11.599
of this stuff, and she always seizes the moment. She's

658
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.400
always like, you know what, this is a great opportunity.

659
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.280
I'm going to see if I can get my crew home.

660
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.039
Am I going to have to risk some lives to

661
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.519
do it? Yes, but it is totally worth it because

662
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.559
if I don't do it, it's going to take us,

663
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.320
whatever it is, seven hundred and eighty something years to

664
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.559
get back at maximum work, which, of course, like they'll

665
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:32.440
never make it right. So unless she actually seizes the

666
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.480
moment and does what she can to seize these opportunities,

667
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:42.000
you know, they'd all be dead long before they get home.

668
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.440
So Jane Wade does the correct things. She's a great captain.

669
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:48.960
There's no question that in Voyager, and I've talked about

670
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.400
this on the show before, that they write her a

671
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.079
little inconsistently and like sometimes she's a little more cavaliers,

672
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.000
sometimes she's a little confusing. But that's you know, that's

673
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.559
that's shows. That's writing, that's like, what do I need

674
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.480
for this episode, and how do I need to amend

675
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.719
the janeway that we've seen in the past to fit

676
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.400
the story that we're that we're trying to tell. So,

677
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:11.840
you know, like I said, I don't think this is

678
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.280
like the most epic or the most crazy episode of

679
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.440
Star Trek Voyager ever, but man, there's some great character interactions.

680
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.519
We get to see a really cool ship in the Prometheus.

681
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.960
We get to see Romulans as the bad guys on Voyager,

682
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.599
which I think is the only time that this ever happens,

683
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.840
right because they're in like different quadrants, right, And we

684
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.039
get to see the introduction of the Herogion, who eventually

685
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.559
become a really cool adversary of the Voyager. So that

686
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:43.519
was Those are all great reasons that I decided that

687
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.039
this would be a fun episode to talk about today.

688
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.199
Good choice, Good choice. So I just watched it again

689
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:56.519
yesterday and I really, I really enjoyed the I think

690
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.199
it was more of an EMAH program. Robert Ricardo really

691
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.280
had an opportunity to shine and he played really well

692
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.199
off the other dude there, Andy Dick. And there's one

693
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.480
particular scene where Andy Dick says something like I'm a

694
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:12.960
I'm a doctor not a commando, and I just started laughing.

695
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:16.280
I was like, Wow, there you go, there's a throwbacks.

696
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.280
I'm a pilot, not a doctor. That's like a riff

697
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:18.639
on that.

698
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.760
Too, right, So I thought that was good. But I

699
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.719
really one of my favorite characters on Voyager was always

700
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.320
been the Doctor. I always thought he was a very unique,

701
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.079
different character and he was always one of my favorites.

702
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:35.119
So to see him in the spotlight was I really enjoyed.

703
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.480
I thought that the head Romulan guy wasn't Was that

704
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.800
the same actor who who was in the Wrath of Khan?

705
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:48.760
That is absolutely right, that's Judson Scott who plays in.

706
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.199
I thought so his voice sounded familiar.

707
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:58.519
He's got the really severe face with those cheekbones and everything. Yeah,

708
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.320
Judson Scott yep.

709
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:03.679
I was watching ask I think that guy's familiar. The

710
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:09.360
Starship Battle when the Prometheus goes into multi victual attack

711
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.480
mode and wastes the USS Nebula whatever the name of

712
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.400
that ship was, and then the two Defiants show up.

713
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:22.880
That whole thing was just awesome. It was really cool. Yeah,

714
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:26.760
And I really liked how when seven shocks the herogein, Dude,

715
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.159
he's trying to turn them off so they can't send

716
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.000
the doctor back and she zaps his ass. You know,

717
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:35.199
I thought that was great. Yeah, So overall I enjoyed

718
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.199
this episode. There was a lot of humor in it,

719
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.679
a lot of action in it. We get to see

720
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.599
the Romulans. So yeah, I think I'm with dominions. I

721
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.559
think I'm with them A nine point five from Uncle Jim.

722
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.360
So how about you, Charles.

723
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:53.880
Well, it's been a while, but I finally got a

724
00:40:53.920 --> 00:41:00.000
chance to watch it last night. Ah. One thing especially,

725
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.400
I think for Eric's point, is a little bit of

726
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:10.639
inconsistency with Jane Way and I think listening to many

727
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:19.800
episodes of their podcast that there was definitely between the

728
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:24.760
occasional different writers, the different directors that sometimes the characters

729
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.880
kind of shifted personality. It's a little bit between episodes.

730
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:35.719
And Delta Flier's podcast right, yes, with Robert Duncan McNeil

731
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:36.519
and Garrett Wong.

732
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.519
Yes, And definitely I think shows the fact that there

733
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.719
is there is inconsistency sometimes between episodes where they may

734
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.360
go one direction one week and a different direction another week.

735
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.400
But that's what you get with this kind of series.

736
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:03.000
I thought it interesting that the EMH where the EMH

737
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:06.719
and the Voyagers always a direct ready to deal with

738
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:15.159
the situation. The Prometheus. EMH was just I'm here to help.

739
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.960
I'll do what I do to help people, but that's it.

740
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:22.320
I'm not gonna risk myself. I'm not really into doing

741
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:29.960
anything more than I have to, as Eric said, And

742
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.480
I think that made an interesting, little bit, interesting, little

743
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.760
interesting little conversation between the two. Definitely, I think we

744
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:44.519
saw a chance of some growth for seven to get

745
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:52.400
on this episode. Answered to grow as a character, and

746
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:58.880
definitely some interesting reactions and dealing with the Romulans in

747
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.119
this one. What a character. It's like, Yeah, you do

748
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:05.920
look familiar. I wasn't thinking as much movies as much

749
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.119
as you. I think reminded me of the Romeolin that

750
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:19.360
we've seen from Enterprise or from Next Generation. But definitely

751
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.920
kudos to this episode.

752
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:29.440
All right, how about you, David, what do you think

753
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:31.920
about Messaging a Bottle Star Trek Voyager?

754
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:36.920
I really liked it. One of my favorite top five

755
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.360
Voyage episodes. I like the humor, I like the action,

756
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:47.079
I like the direction that the episode went, and overall

757
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:54.559
just the I like episodes that give good introduction and

758
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.360
if they have to continue on like in parts later

759
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.239
on in this or even multiple seasons to have a

760
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.280
good climax. I really liked having those types of episodes,

761
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:11.639
and this, in my personal opinion, was good introduction to

762
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:16.559
not only the herosion or the ship or the plot

763
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:20.079
that we're moving forward for the whole series was actually

764
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:25.400
really well done. I think Andy Dick and Robert Pricardo

765
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:30.079
did a very good job interacting with each other, probably

766
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:33.960
one of the best, like Eric Houshane, a good comedic

767
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.000
going at each other kind of things. And I really

768
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.400
enjoyed watching and listening to a lot of the different

769
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.679
grew ups that they had. You know, my favorite line

770
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.400
was when they were being hailed from the Federation after

771
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.719
that Romulan battle, which was really awesome by the way,

772
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:58.480
probably one of my favorite Voyager battles. But my favorite

773
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:04.360
line is when Andy Andy Dick would saying you first

774
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.599
when they were babe, oh, I think it was being

775
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.480
hailed by Romulant. That's what ways. Sorry, I'm gonna watch.

776
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.280
But yeah, so when it were being hailed by rominin

777
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:16.320
for the first time and then uh, Andy Dick would

778
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.599
basically saying you first, and to look on Robert face

779
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:26.039
looked really genuine and it was just like, uh, he

780
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.039
didn't know why you did that. But yeah, So to me,

781
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.159
I liked the whole process of how this episode turned out,

782
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.719
and I think it digged on well with canon. I

783
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:47.280
like Canon, But overall, I'm probably gonna give this episode

784
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:48.159
a nine point nine.

785
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:53.360
All right, nine point nine from David, and that means

786
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.960
Paul gets to bring up the kabooz. What do you think, Paul?

787
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.159
All Right, Well, there's a lot to like about this

788
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.800
episode in terms of the concept of it, right. I

789
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:02.760
like the whole fact that we, you know, because a

790
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.320
lot of times the Voyager you're so trapped in a

791
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.599
localized way to wherever they may be because you know,

792
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:10.559
delta quatern right, So not a lot of chance to

793
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.840
really interact with the Federation or see things that we're

794
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.280
used to seeing in like from a next gen perspective,

795
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.440
like Romulan warbirds, et cetera. Right, So it's really inventive

796
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.320
of them to come up with a way of giving

797
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.159
us a chance to have that and put the whole

798
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.519
ticking clock thing on there with this communications relay, and

799
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:31.719
so there's a lot of risk involved, right, It's like, well,

800
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:37.199
they lose their only medical you know, medical provider, right,

801
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.800
because that's it's it's not a good show unless there's

802
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.199
an element of risk and jeopardy, right, there has to

803
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.400
be some suspense and uncertainty involved, right, So all those

804
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.679
elements are really great. I really like the kind of

805
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.119
b story going on with Ballana and Seven too. This

806
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.559
is the season where we first met Seven, right, if

807
00:46:57.559 --> 00:46:59.880
I'm not mistaken. Season four is when they brought that character.

808
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.719
So she's it's early days for seven of nine. She's

809
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:04.639
still finding her way, and it's great to see that

810
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:09.360
abrasiveness between her and Balana to start with, Right, they're

811
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.880
still working that out, and she's still trying to you know,

812
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:16.880
she's issuing commands come down, so you know, she expects

813
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:20.400
everyone from you know her the captain to just come

814
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.639
at her back and call. She doesn't really have you know,

815
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.920
those you know, personal graces down yet. So I thought

816
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.159
all that stuffs really really good. This is a standout

817
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:33.480
episode for Robert Brigardo, right, who is very often is underused,

818
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.559
and he gets a chance to really shine here. I mean,

819
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:39.400
he's there's a lot of comedy in this episode, which

820
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.719
he's famous for, but he also really does a lot

821
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.239
of things, like a lot of heartfelt conviction where he's

822
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.639
really conveying the stakes of things. I think he does

823
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.320
a really good job with his performance here. I really

824
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.280
particularly like it where he's just sort of, you know,

825
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:54.800
having to do the undercover thing. I'm just here to

826
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.920
scan you for a stomach virus romulans and just kind

827
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:59.719
of you know, he has to get in there and

828
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.159
actual should go up amidst the romulans you know, on

829
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:07.119
the bridge and just sort of seem cool while he's

830
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.800
trying to do something you know, untoward, right, And I

831
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:12.880
thought that was really interesting. And he you know, he's

832
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.840
got such an expressive face and he's very convincing, right,

833
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.360
He's great. I mean, I'm really happy that he'll be

834
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.840
one of the fixtures on Starfleet Academy next year. You know,

835
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.199
he's a terrific actor, a good guy. I really like

836
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.559
him a lot. I'm not a huge Andy Dick fan.

837
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:36.320
You know, let's put his personal travails on the shelf.

838
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.079
We don't have to talk about those right now. I

839
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.599
just his style of acting I don't care for very much.

840
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.800
It's super muggy, right, and I don't mean, Wow, it's

841
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:48.119
really hot out here. Muggy I'm talking about. He just

842
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:56.119
mugs for the camera, so you know, you know, desperately

843
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:58.599
would be how I would describe it. Right, So he's

844
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.480
more of a median performer and he's not really an actor,

845
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:04.639
and he just sort of, you know, he's trying to

846
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.159
keep up with Robert Ricardo, but he's got Percardo's got

847
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:11.760
so much more craft and skill and tools in his

848
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:15.000
you know, theatrical toolbox. And and Andy Dick. I just

849
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.840
kind of felt like it was stunt casting because news

850
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.280
radio was sort of popular at the time and Andy

851
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.320
Dick hadn't really gotten into a lot of his you know,

852
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:26.480
troubles yet, and he's just not up to the same level.

853
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.559
And I just find him annoying, right, So, you know,

854
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.159
it's just I can think of, like, you know, twenty

855
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.719
other contemporary, uh you know, comedic actors from the day

856
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.360
who would have been phenomenal. I would have much rather scene,

857
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:42.559
you know, who could have you know, kept an equal

858
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.840
rapport going with Percardo here. So for me, it's just

859
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:48.039
he's kind of the weak link for me. I mean,

860
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.440
he doesn't do a terrible job. I mean he's sort

861
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.320
of you can he's trying but he's just not really

862
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:57.400
an actor. He's he's, you know, a stand up guy,

863
00:49:58.039 --> 00:49:59.760
you know, and I just don't think he has the craft,

864
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.000
and I kind of think it shows. So he was

865
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:05.079
a weakling for me. It's just, you know, not everybody's

866
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.320
gonna like everybody. You know that some actors are your

867
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.039
favorites and some of you just don't care for. I'm

868
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.880
sure he's got legions of fans who think he's great.

869
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:13.400
So at the end of the day, I think though,

870
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.440
a pretty pretty decent episode. I think on the whole,

871
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.719
in terms of keeping you engaged, the slow spots are

872
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:25.679
Harry Kim and Tom Parris in I think that's where

873
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.880
we drag a little bit much. And Tom Paris is

874
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.119
like he gets nothing but exposition. He's got to like,

875
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:33.880
you know, let me explain to you why this won't

876
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:36.440
work and why I am frustrated rather than act frustrated.

877
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:36.639
Right.

878
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:40.639
I mean, Tom Parris is tough character sometimes in terms

879
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:45.000
of how he was written, right, you know, and you

880
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.079
know they hadn't really let Harry Kim bust loose a

881
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:50.760
lot yet I don't think still it's just underused as well.

882
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:52.920
But on the whole, pretty good episode. I would say,

883
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:57.000
but again, thanks hugely to Robert Brigardo, you know, who

884
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.159
comes in as MVP in this episode, so and very

885
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:03.840
very cool to see our friend from Rathagon in there

886
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:05.719
as well. I love that, you know, it's just almost

887
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:09.760
unrecognizable under all the Romulin makeup. But I think it

888
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:11.800
was just a lovely little grace note to see him

889
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:13.920
in there, and very very cool. So I'd give this

890
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.960
a seven. I think a seven is a pretty solid

891
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.079
rating for this episode. Not one of my all time

892
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:23.320
favorites for Voyager, but pretty darn solid and a lot

893
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.559
of fun. And it's nice that they're able to flirt

894
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.280
with comedy every now and then and yet still have

895
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.559
a relatively serious episode, so it's not just all fun games.

896
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:35.480
So a good good work. So did they ever? Did

897
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.880
they ever mention how the Romulins managed to capture a

898
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.599
super ultra top secret starfleet vessel so easily like that?

899
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:43.880
Was that?

900
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:44.159
Ever?

901
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:45.280
Was that ever mentioned?

902
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:47.280
They did not talk about that?

903
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.599
And they also there's almost no crew. I mean all

904
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.320
the crew is dead basically, but there's like three guys

905
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:55.719
right from what I could see. And I guess the

906
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.119
assumption is I'm assuming it got lost in the editing

907
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.159
right that that the ship is so advanced it doesn't

908
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:04.679
need a really big crew, so that doesn't seem to

909
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.679
be a problem, and that is part.

910
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:08.880
Yeah, that's part of the sort of b cannon on

911
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:11.800
the Prometheus is that it's a highly automated ship, so

912
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:14.000
it does have a very very small crew, but they

913
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:15.840
don't talk about that in this episode. And there's no

914
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:17.760
way back in the nineties or back in the early

915
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:19.920
two thousands, there's.

916
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:21.719
A dude, there's the dudes in sick bay with phaser

917
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.880
heavy phaser burns. You've had heavy phaser burns.

918
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:32.119
Well, the third day, the burdens with absolutely no visual indication.

919
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:37.239
It's like he's got third degree burns, but he looks

920
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:38.039
totally fine.

921
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:40.559
I've never seen anyone else with like that ever on

922
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.920
another episode, but here there it's okay, so want to

923
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:49.320
know what happened? Yeah, actually, so whatever, But it's just

924
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.360
you know, it's you expect to see the explanation there is.

925
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.079
And also, did anyone else sort of feel it like

926
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:59.239
that production design and Prometheus Bridge was just like thrown

927
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.039
together like ten and it's it's like, practically it's so

928
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:04.920
big and empty. I mean, it just seems like it's really,

929
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:10.159
you know, like way empty, like spaciously underdecorated.

930
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:12.280
It's like, yeah, it's the same thing I thought, Why

931
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.760
is this bridge so huge when there's no crow?

932
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.320
I think I'm I think I know the explanation of

933
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:21.000
why they made the ship that big. I believe further

934
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:23.800
down in the Sherris they were planning on using them

935
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:26.840
as the Prometheus to get to a voyager to bring

936
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:31.320
him back, and so with the whole technology things upgraded

937
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.960
everything like that, I think they were toucheding out to

938
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.960
see how fast the ship can go. Maybe they got

939
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.440
a little too close through Romulan border. Maybe that's probably

940
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:39.039
why it took.

941
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:41.440
Around, But that doesn't help me understand why the bridge is

942
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:43.679
so empty, right, and so uh.

943
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:46.599
Dude with a vacuum.

944
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:48.599
Cleaner to be walking around in the background, right, it's

945
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:51.119
kind of like, yeah, all kind of here to keep

946
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:52.000
clean fellas.

947
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:52.360
You know.

948
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.960
I'm just like, well, I Pacado's emah, you know, walks

949
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.039
out of the bridge and he's like, where's the helm.

950
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.360
Where's the helm? It's that one in the.

951
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:01.760
Same place that all the other helms are.

952
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:05.559
It's in the front one up on a little hill.

953
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:09.639
I can't miss it, but that's minor stuff, right, and

954
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:11.800
maybe yeah, it's like it's it's like we got to

955
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:14.039
remind ourselves. I mean, I think we sometimes forget in

956
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:16.280
the zeal of our star Trek Fantom, this is a

957
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:19.440
freaking TV show, right, It's a factory produce product. And

958
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.159
it's like if what were you saying earlier, Eric Kanar

959
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:25.599
and like you know, yeah, it's like one actor in

960
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.079
one season is going to pronounce it one way and

961
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.079
another actor on another sea's going to pro nobody could

962
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:33.960
possibly care less, right, Yeah, it's just like, you know,

963
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:35.960
I don't think it's like there.

964
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.199
Was a whole episode about that, but yeah.

965
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:40.639
But no one was keeping track of that because when

966
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:42.760
they're making the next episode, it's just what are we

967
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:44.320
doing today? What do we have to do before we

968
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:45.719
go to dinner? What do we have to get done

969
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.400
so we get paid? That is literally all anyone cares about.

970
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.119
Nobody is. It's really rare that there's like a person

971
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.440
who's like the continuity person there may be to make

972
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.280
sure that continuity the episode is correct. Hey, remember you

973
00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:59.639
had your shirt unzipped in that scene. We're gonna make

974
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.440
sure zipped the same way for here, that's the continuity.

975
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.239
But it's rare that he was keeping track of like

976
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:07.159
well in other episodes, there's I mean, that's something that

977
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:08.840
fandom just started doing.

978
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:12.639
You know, discovery essentially post.

979
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:15.679
Haste afterwards and before the Internet in the early days,

980
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.079
going back to this, this is like nineteen ninety eight

981
00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:20.039
or whatever, right, whenever the hell this was, you know,

982
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.039
really early days, no one was keeping track of that.

983
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.440
It's just it's everyone's just you know, most of the directors,

984
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.760
it's just a job, you know. And the actors are like, yeah,

985
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.639
this weird spaceship show, you know, and then they're amazed

986
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:33.079
at twenty five years later we want them to come

987
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:38.519
on this podcast and they're like yeah, yeah, so it

988
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:39.039
cracks me.

989
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:40.159
Oh, I don't remember that.

990
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.039
I remember I didn't get paid as much as my

991
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:44.599
agent told me I was gonna get paid.

992
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:45.360
That's what I remember.

993
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:49.480
Yeah, yeah, we should get that one cat on here man.

994
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:51.800
He would be a good guest.

995
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:54.360
We're always getting these guests who were you know a

996
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:59.800
little different. Yeah, Judson Scott. Yeah, yes, he's been in

997
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:03.280
two different Star Trek things man and and he's pretty charismatic.

998
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:03.480
Cat.

999
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:05.079
We should be looking into what he's been up to

1000
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:06.480
and he.

1001
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.440
Was like in a third thing too. He had like

1002
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:11.920
a I feel like he's been on Star Trek three times.

1003
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:14.079
Well, he was in the he was in the v

1004
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:17.599
TV series, he was on the X Files.

1005
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:19.320
He does.

1006
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.760
That one weird alien that they burned a hole way

1007
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:27.880
through him and you, yeah.

1008
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:32.159
That's it, that's it, Yes, exactly true. Yeah, you had

1009
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:34.440
NOI or koy or something.

1010
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:35.639
I had something to do like that.

1011
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:36.800
Yeah, I can't remember.

1012
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:39.079
Too close to the sun.

1013
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:46.840
Yeah, cool, so be yeah, oh there we go one episode. Yeah,

1014
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:49.840
I'm not sure, see which one it was here, See

1015
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:54.000
if we can get the uhmos.

1016
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:55.519
The one with the alien.

1017
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:58.599
Yeah, season one, episode twenty one, symbiosis.

1018
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.000
Yeah.

1019
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:02.360
Yeah, so he's just popping the ball over in between

1020
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:09.320
eighteen episodes and right taking the fat man. Right, but

1021
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:11.719
he's been on Babylon five and he was in the

1022
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:15.480
Blade movie with Leslie Snipes, Tex Files. I mean he's

1023
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:18.880
a genre guy, right, yeah, yeah, I bet he's got

1024
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:20.880
a lot of stories, right, you know, I.

1025
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:22.119
Bet he's watching our podcast.

1026
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.639
Oh yeah, it's probably right now. I wouldn't be surprised.

1027
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.719
And pick up the phone man, come on, get your agent.

1028
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.159
We got we got we got we got needs over here,

1029
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.719
so fun, fun stuff, fun to talk about an old episode.

1030
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:39.360
Yeah we we uh, I think we only talked about

1031
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.079
well Discovery, we didn't do a lot of retro trek,

1032
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:44.400
have we.

1033
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.679
Well, we did some retro trek likes and years and

1034
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:51.440
years ago, like either before Discovery came out or kind

1035
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:54.480
of like between Discovery seasons, and we've done a couple

1036
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:58.159
of here and there, but like, it's been a super

1037
00:57:58.199 --> 00:57:59.960
long time since we've done retro stuff.

1038
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:00.599
Yeah.

1039
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:02.639
Yeah, we haven't done a lot of retro stuff.

1040
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.360
I think when I first started, part of my job

1041
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:09.840
with to do some retro track talk about some of

1042
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:15.519
the old episodes and bring them back in. And that's

1043
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:17.480
been many, many many years ago.

1044
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:22.480
Yeah, yeah, a long time. So maybe maybe we'll stick

1045
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:25.639
with the retro thing and maybe each week I'll ask

1046
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:27.440
one of you guys to pick one of your favorite

1047
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:31.039
episodes from any series and we'll dive into it.

1048
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:34.679
I think I got one in mind definitely that we

1049
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:36.880
reference constantly.

1050
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:44.800
Retro flashback. H Yeah. Well, so guys, what do you say?

1051
00:58:44.840 --> 00:59:07.840
Are we ready for some birthdays? It all right? That

1052
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:11.760
was not a clinon song, No grumpy war if it wasn't,

1053
00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:15.239
but we love you anyways. So every week, guys, we

1054
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:19.360
like to go back and review Star Trek Birthday so

1055
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:21.800
we can find out who you share a Star Trek

1056
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.159
birthday with. And we always like to start off by

1057
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:26.960
remembering those members of our Star Trek family who, sadly enough,

1058
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.360
are no longer with us, and for that we turned

1059
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.000
to Eric and Jim.

1060
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.599
This week, we have six remembrances to talk about. The

1061
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:39.199
very first is actor Logan Ramsey born March twenty first,

1062
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.360
nineteen twenty one. He's the actor who appeared as Claudius

1063
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:47.880
Marcus in the TOS second season episode Bread and Circuses.

1064
00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:52.480
His father, Logan Ramsey Senior, of course, was the naval

1065
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.920
officer who became famous in radio history after sending the

1066
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:59.639
message air raid Pearl Harbor. This is no drill. That's right.

1067
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:04.320
He's the guy who announced to the world that Pearl

1068
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:08.119
Harbor had been attacked. But Logan Ramsey himself, of course,

1069
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.400
made a career of guest starring. Essentially, he guest starred

1070
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:16.199
in things like the original Kung Fu show, he was

1071
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:19.840
on Benachek. He was in several shows back in the days,

1072
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:23.840
and in fact he had a prominent role in hed,

1073
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:26.960
the nineteen sixty eight feature film Showcase for the pop

1074
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.599
group The Monkeys, And I dated a woman or a

1075
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:34.000
girl at that time in high school who was really

1076
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.280
into The Monkeys, And I actually knew who this guy

1077
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:39.880
was long before I knew he was in Star Trek.

1078
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:44.480
So yeah, pretty funny. Go check him out. He's been

1079
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:46.400
in a few different things, including one of my favorite

1080
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:50.840
shows from the eighties. Night writer Logan Ramsey born March

1081
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:53.000
twenty first, nineteen twenty one. We lost him back in

1082
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:56.360
the year two thousand at age seventy nine years old.

1083
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.880
Happy birthday, as well to actor Ed Peck born March

1084
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.760
twenty sixth, nineteen seventeen. He appeared as Lieutenant Colonel Fellini

1085
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:10.159
in the TOS first season episode Tomorrow Is Yesterday. He

1086
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:14.000
had several roles of various sizes in about thirty movies

1087
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:16.840
and television shows along the way. He also made about

1088
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:20.360
seventy five guest appearances, among them a recurring role as

1089
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:23.639
a police officer whose last name was Kirk on the

1090
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.360
popular sitcom Happy Days. You may have seen him there

1091
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.159
and got a nice picture of him there on the screen.

1092
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:34.119
He was also in nineteen sixty eight Bullet nineteen seventy eight,

1093
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.320
So Heaven Can Wait, and did voiceover work in nineteen

1094
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:41.320
eighty two's The Last Unicorn, which is a fantastic movie.

1095
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:43.320
If you have never seen that, you should check it out.

1096
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:45.920
Ed Peck would have had a birthday, like I said,

1097
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:51.039
just yesterday, March twenty sixth. Happy birthday, Ed. Happy birthday

1098
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:55.960
as well to Philip Richard Allen born also March twenty sixth,

1099
01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:58.559
but in nineteen thirty nine. He's the actor who played

1100
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.519
Captain J. T. Stebon in Star Trek three, The Search

1101
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.840
for Spock. He is known for numerous television and film

1102
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:12.119
guest appearances, including appearing beside Merrett Buttrick as David David

1103
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:16.239
Marcus in that movie. He had coincidentally already played a

1104
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:22.000
character named David Marcus himself in the nineteen seventy seven

1105
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:25.280
show Lou Grant. But his most consistent work was on

1106
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:28.800
the short lived television series called The Bad News Bears,

1107
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:33.559
which featured, of course, as well, Catherine Hicks. Philip Richard

1108
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:36.400
Allen born March twenty sixth, nineteen thirty nine lost back

1109
01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:39.719
in twenty twelve at seventy two years old. Happy Birthday, Philip,

1110
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:44.679
Happy Birthday as well to John Stewart. He's the first

1111
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:48.400
actor to portray Alexander Rosenko in the Next Generation four

1112
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:53.519
season episode Reunion. For the remainder of the episodes on TNG,

1113
01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:57.280
Roshenko would of course be played by Family Tie star

1114
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:00.400
Brian Bonsal, so most people kind of forget about John

1115
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:04.960
as playing Alexander. He also made a few guest appearances

1116
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:08.199
in various television shows throughout the eighties and nineties, but

1117
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.239
he acquired his most recognition as an actor for playing

1118
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:17.239
Quentin Kelly on the sitcom series Grace under Fire. He

1119
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:22.480
left Grace Underfire in nineteen ninety six and never acted again. Unfortunately,

1120
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.280
we lost him way too early, at only thirty three

1121
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.760
years old. He was born today March twenty seventh, in

1122
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:31.519
the year nineteen eighty four, and we lost him in

1123
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:37.079
twenty eighteen, thirty three years old. Happy birthday, John. Now,

1124
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.480
we got a couple of huge banger birthdays to talk

1125
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.239
about here. The very first I want to go to

1126
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:47.800
is of course Dorthry Catherine Fontana DC Fontana. She's the

1127
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.679
writer and script editor who had the distinction of being

1128
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:52.639
one of the few people to have worked on the

1129
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:56.719
original series as well as the animated series Next Generation

1130
01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:01.719
and Deep Space Nine. When ry, she often had to

1131
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:07.159
use pseudonyms, including Michael Richards and Jay Michael Bingham because

1132
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:09.000
she was a woman and she was worried about her

1133
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:11.840
stuff not getting used because she had a woman's name.

1134
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:14.960
But then sometimes she did it for convenience too. She

1135
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:18.360
actually used the pseudonym j. Michael Bingham for The Naked

1136
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:21.280
Now when she wrote that because she didn't like that

1137
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:25.719
episode and she didn't want her name associated with it.

1138
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:30.039
Deep Space Nine was actually her favorite Star Trek spinoff

1139
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:34.480
while she was alive. She especially liked the show's strong characters.

1140
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:37.320
She also worked as a writer for a few television

1141
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:41.880
series before Star Trek, briefly working as Gene Roddenberry's secretary

1142
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:45.440
first before she became a writer. The first episode of

1143
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:49.039
Star Trek that she ever penned was Charlie X, based

1144
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:52.960
on a premise by Roddenberry entitled The Day Charlie Became God.

1145
01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:57.840
She wrote several notable TOS episodes which I would love

1146
01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:00.000
to read through all of them. There are ten toos

1147
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.599
this episode she wrote, but two of the most famous

1148
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:07.159
I think are probably Tomorrow Is Yesterday and Journey to Babel. Also,

1149
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:11.239
after the departure of Stephen Carabastos, she was promoted to

1150
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.239
story editor. She was twenty seven years old and became

1151
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.880
the youngest story editor in Hollywood at the time, and

1152
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:21.960
also one of the very few female staff writers of

1153
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:25.880
the day. She co wrote Encounter at Farpoint in the

1154
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:31.559
TG Days, earning a Hugo Award nomination. She co invented

1155
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.840
the el cars display concept and wrote four other episodes

1156
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:42.079
for that season before departing due to Roddenberry's lawyer. Let's

1157
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.840
not talk about that, however. Her last contribution to Star

1158
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:51.119
Trek was the DS nine episode Dax, in which a

1159
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:55.000
great deal of Jadzia Dax's backstory is actually fleshed out.

1160
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:58.639
Outside of Star Trek, she worked on Babylon five and

1161
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:02.079
Earth Final Conflict, as well as several other shows. In fact,

1162
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:04.639
in nineteen seventy seven, she even did some work on

1163
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.320
a fourteen episode run of Logan's Run. If you do

1164
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.239
not know who DC Fontana is, you have got to

1165
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:15.199
go check her out. She has ten TOS episodes under

1166
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:18.239
her belt. She wrote the best episode of the animated

1167
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:22.960
series ever made, entitled Yesteryear. She wrote five episodes of

1168
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.679
Next Generation of course had that one credit for Deep

1169
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:30.000
Space nine, so a real giant of Star Trek. She

1170
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:33.719
was born on March twenty fifth, just a couple of

1171
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.960
days ago, in the year nineteen thirty nine, and we

1172
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:40.519
lost her back in twenty nineteen at eighty years old.

1173
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:43.840
Happy birthday and tons and tons of love going out

1174
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:48.400
to DC Fontana. And last but not least, we have

1175
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:52.280
one of the Big Three. Leonard Simon Nimoy. That's right,

1176
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:56.519
Leonard Nimoy Barn born yesterday, March twenty sixth, in the

1177
01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:59.559
year nineteen thirty one. He, of course, is the actor

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01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:02.960
best known for his Emmy Award nominated portrayal of Spock,

1179
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.800
the half human, half Vulcan officer and science officer aboard

1180
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:10.599
the USS Enterprise. He's the only member of the original

1181
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.679
series main cast who have been featured in the original

1182
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:16.480
pilot episode The Cage, which of course we didn't see

1183
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:19.360
until years later. Name only continued the role through the

1184
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:23.440
entire TOS tenure, including the animated series and the first

1185
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:27.400
six Star Trek films. He also appeared in Star Trek

1186
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:31.960
the Next Generation's fifth season episodes Unification one and Unification

1187
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:34.960
two in celebration of the twenty fifth anniversary of Star

1188
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:38.559
Trek being broadcast. He also left his mark on Star

1189
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:42.559
Trek's franchise as a director, writer, and producer, directing the

1190
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.199
film Star Trek three, The Search for Spock and Star

1191
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:50.239
Trek four, The Voyage Home. Later in the twenty first century,

1192
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:53.079
he would reprise his role as Spock in the movie

1193
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.639
Star Trek two thousand and nine, and then eventually showed

1194
01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:01.800
up in twenty thirteen's sequel Star Trek in Darkness as well.

1195
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:06.599
He was a military vet, super famous guy who started

1196
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:10.039
out on a dramatic scholarship and then moved out to

1197
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.159
the West Coast and kind of made his own way

1198
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:15.760
in the world. In December two thousand and two, so

1199
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:18.439
prior to Star Trek two thousand and nine, he announced

1200
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.119
his retirement from acting and his plans to spend his

1201
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:25.399
retirement as a photographer. Yeah, it turns out that didn't

1202
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:28.920
entirely work out for him, but it's okay. We really

1203
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:32.680
appreciate it. On the second of June and twenty fifteen,

1204
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:36.199
NASA honored Nimoy when they named an asteroid after him

1205
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:40.760
four eight six'. Four nimoy and his legacy continued through

1206
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:44.560
a documentary film created by his Daughter julie and his Son,

1207
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:49.600
adam and of course narrated By John, delancey Titled Remembering Leonard,

1208
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:54.319
nimoy designed to raise awareness of chronic obstructive pulmonary, disease

1209
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:57.640
which of course is what he died from after smoking

1210
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:01.920
for fifty or so years of his. Life so we

1211
01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:06.159
cannot express what an impact this man had On Star.

1212
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:09.319
Trek when people think Of Star, trek the first person

1213
01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:13.239
they usually think of Is leonard dmoy and SO i

1214
01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.920
just can't say it. Enough happy birthday and just lots

1215
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:21.039
of love and remembrances going out To Leonard Simon.

1216
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:25.720
NEIMOY a good musical number Of Bilbo, yes.

1217
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:29.119
Of course there's The ballad Of bilbo bag and. Es

1218
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:32.800
but we lost him back in twenty fifteen at the

1219
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.800
age of eighty three years. Old happy birthday To Leonar.

1220
01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:39.560
Nimoy and WHEN i think Of Leonard nimoy other Than, spock,

1221
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:43.680
yeah way back WHEN i was a wee, SPRAGUE i

1222
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:45.960
used to run home from school and Watch In Search.

1223
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.119
Of if you guys don't, remember oh, yeah, sure, yeah

1224
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:52.439
he Did In Search Of AND i also remember him

1225
01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:56.239
in the remake Of invasion of The Body, snatchers WHICH

1226
01:09:56.880 --> 01:09:59.319
i think is an excellent. Movie so those are the

1227
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:01.800
two Non Star trek things that pop in my head

1228
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:02.279
WHEN i think of.

1229
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:07.239
Totally, YEAH i forgot another THING i wanted to add

1230
01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:12.399
on to. That my very first Watching Leonard nimoy was

1231
01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:20.479
from a a Fairy Tale theater episode Of. Aladdin he

1232
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:24.479
played the villain in that. Show now my very first

1233
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:27.840
ever watching him, Perform so that was kind of.

1234
01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:31.720
Interesting that's very, COOL i. THINK I i THINK i

1235
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:33.880
saw him on The Twilight zone BEFORE i actually ever

1236
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:37.760
Saw Star trek, personally BECAUSE i had some family members

1237
01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:39.720
who were Big Twilight zone, fans AND i don't remember

1238
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:42.279
the episode he was, in BUT i remember he was

1239
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:43.399
like in the army or.

1240
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:46.159
Something this helmet on right there in The Twilight.

1241
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:48.199
Zone oh, yeah his pictures right there on the. Screen,

1242
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:49.439
YEAH i get.

1243
01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:55.680
That and wasn't he in the in the horror Movie

1244
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.119
them about The Giant. Ants wasn't he a soldier in

1245
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:03.079
that movie? TOO i think could? Be and you got

1246
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:09.279
killed by a giant, AUNT i. Think so, anyways that's

1247
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.880
our remembrances And, charles you want to dive into our

1248
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:14.239
Living Star trek.

1249
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:18.840
People, yep After eric didn't see me throwing my hand.

1250
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:23.359
UP i want to get one one recognition FOR Dc

1251
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:28.760
fontana That jim would, appreciate and that she co Wrote

1252
01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:36.239
heart Of, glory the First klingon episode IN. TNG i

1253
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:39.119
was talking about that episode one. TIME i didn't. REALIZE

1254
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:42.319
i looked up and realized she co wrote that episode

1255
01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:51.760
and brought Us klingons okay on some other. Birthdays Happy

1256
01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:56.159
Birthday Vanessa, branch actress had played the adult version Of

1257
01:11:56.279 --> 01:12:05.279
naomi Wild men In voyager's seven season Episodisode. Shattered Happy,

1258
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:12.359
Birthday anthony the longest, actress, actor flight, director and trainer

1259
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:21.520
who Played color in five episodes Star Trek Lager and,

1260
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:25.600
oh you might have to recognize him From, Rigel, Boss

1261
01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:31.279
arcalactica And logan RUN tv. Series oh For, jim we

1262
01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:32.560
can't skip out.

1263
01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:37.000
The we just talked About logan's run WITH dc five

1264
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:45.640
ten or what a? Coincidence and, yeah the man that

1265
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:46.319
was an excellent.

1266
01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:52.600
Episode, yeah, Definitely happy birthday At Jennifer, Edwards Los angeles

1267
01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:57.600
born actress who Played kyle in TG's fifth season episode New.

1268
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:05.760
Ground Happy birthday To Brenda Lee strong From oregon is

1269
01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:10.720
the actress who Played rasha in TG's first season Episode

1270
01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:20.199
when The Bow. Breaks Happy birthday To john di veris

1271
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:25.439
actress From New york who Played Wilson granger And Victor,

1272
01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:29.760
granger the clones Of Walter. Granger In Star trek's next

1273
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:37.319
duration second season Episode up The Long. Ladder Happy birthday

1274
01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:41.960
To Bonnie gordon is an actress who performed on the

1275
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:46.159
ship's computer of THE Uss Proto star And Star Trek

1276
01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:52.920
prodigy And eric sat there and brought one of the

1277
01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:58.159
top three in, well actually we've got birthday of two

1278
01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:04.000
of the top. Three Very happy birthday to The canadian

1279
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:10.159
actress best known Playing Captain JAMES. T kirk In Star

1280
01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:15.520
Trek tos along with several of the movies and the animated.

1281
01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:27.520
Series definitely also well known for his work ON. Tj, hooker, which,

1282
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:31.960
ironically if you look at that, One JAMES. T kirk T. J,

1283
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:39.520
hooker interesting little play on letters in that, one but interesting.

1284
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:42.119
One i've seen him on stage a couple of. Times

1285
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:49.640
he's an interesting, conversationist definitely has some interesting. Stories didn't

1286
01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.479
get a chance to see him on stage during the writers,

1287
01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:55.840
strike BUT i had a feeling he'd had a lot

1288
01:14:55.880 --> 01:15:01.800
of stuff to talk about that Wasn't Star trek, Related.

1289
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:05.800
So, That, charles that's probably pretty good. Trivia you. Know

1290
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:10.520
William shatner was only born four days Before Leonar dame

1291
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:15.119
way in the same. Wow so, oh anybody ever asks

1292
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:16.560
like that's good?

1293
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:16.880
Trivia?

1294
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:19.479
Right it is like nineteen thirty. One march of nineteen

1295
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:21.880
thirty one was quite a quite a time For Star.

1296
01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:24.880
Trek, yeah they get two of the big three right.

1297
01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:34.079
There he also did a interesting movie that he had

1298
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:39.439
kick started that RELEASED i think last. YEAR i can't

1299
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:43.119
remember the title on that, one but very philosophical if

1300
01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:48.359
you're into that kind of, thing and of course should

1301
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:52.880
leave open if anybody has any more comments About shattner, HIMSELF.

1302
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:56.279
I guess the only THING i can say is the

1303
01:15:56.319 --> 01:16:00.279
first TIME i saw him was On Star. TREK i

1304
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:00.760
Guess i'm that.

1305
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:04.079
Young, actually first TIME i ever saw him was also

1306
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:06.920
The Twilight, zone that episode with the weird thing out

1307
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:07.960
on the plane wing.

1308
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:14.359
Tear ten thousand FEET i believe the Episode yeah there you,

1309
01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:19.920
go that's, it yeah, ye which ironically was redone in

1310
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:25.720
a reboot in the two thousands Of Twilight. Zone, Uh

1311
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:32.479
jim's got some heavy hitters too on his. List so

1312
01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:35.239
Since paul's not, Here i'll pass the candle over to.

1313
01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:40.640
Him thank, you thank you so, Much. CHARLES i will

1314
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:48.119
try to do my very Nice. Oh, anyways we want

1315
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.760
to start off by Wishing Amanda plumber a very happy.

1316
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:55.600
Birthday Amanda plumber Played vadic in the third season Of

1317
01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:58.399
Star Trek Per. Cards she also played a day stream

1318
01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:03.680
science test from The. Dominion when you see the flashback,

1319
01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:06.359
scene BUT i remember her from pul. Fiction there she

1320
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:09.000
is right there on the. Screen you guys Remember bunny

1321
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:15.279
from and oddly enough you know who her father is of,

1322
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:17.960
course right another famous, klingon.

1323
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:20.359
A shakespeare wielding.

1324
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.920
Plingon in, fact you have to hear it in its original.

1325
01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:27.319
Clingon and for those of, you for those of you

1326
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:31.159
who listen to our interview With Nicholas, meyer do we

1327
01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:33.960
know where that came? From we do because we were. There,

1328
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:39.119
butsode that's, right that's. Right if you want to find

1329
01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:40.680
out where that came, from you'll have to go and

1330
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:44.239
check out the podcast. Yourself he explains where that came.

1331
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:49.800
From so happy birthday To Amanda. Plumber, NOW i JUST

1332
01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:51.520
i don't know what to say about this next. PERSON

1333
01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:56.680
i know that she, likes she Likes Joan jet she Likes.

1334
01:17:56.840 --> 01:18:01.760
Prince we want to Say happy. Birthday the stand up comic,

1335
01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:06.840
writer radio, contributor and actress who Played Jet reno On

1336
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:13.000
Star Trek, discovery the awesome Tig No. TARO i absolutely

1337
01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:16.119
love her to, death.

1338
01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:19.199
LIKE i want. To, like of all the people In Star,

1339
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:20.560
TREK i feel like she's one of the ones WHO

1340
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:21.199
i want to meet the.

1341
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:25.159
MOST i want to get her on the. PODCAST i

1342
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:28.479
just her deadpan. Delivery no matter what's going, on it's

1343
01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:31.800
it's the same. Level we're about to die and be

1344
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:34.840
turned into. Vapors here Comes Santa. CLAUS i, mean no

1345
01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:38.640
matter what it, is it's the, same, right AM i?

1346
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:43.600
Right you, know nothing seems to phase, this this this,

1347
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:46.600
character you. Know AND i love the way she spars With.

1348
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:49.640
Stamins you, know she comes up with all these names for,

1349
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:55.239
Him Like, god what does she call? Him tiger OR

1350
01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:59.520
i don't, know she comes up with all these names For.

1351
01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:01.760
STAN i JUST i love the way that two of

1352
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.760
them play together off of each. Other So happy birthday

1353
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:08.760
to Tig. Nataro check her out On Star Trek. Voyager she's.

1354
01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:13.239
Awesome the next one is probably one of my favorite

1355
01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:18.079
characters From Strange New. World although not an, original this

1356
01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:21.560
character was played by the Awesome Major. Barrett, first we

1357
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:25.359
want to say happy birthday to Jess. Bush she's The australian, actor,

1358
01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:29.359
model and visual artist who Plays Christine chapell In Star

1359
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:32.880
Trek's Strange New. World her performance in the series first

1360
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.039
season earned her of twenty twenty Two Saturn award nomination

1361
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.960
in the category Of Best Supporting actress in A Streaming.

1362
01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:43.039
SERIES i think she's, great AND i think she was

1363
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:48.000
wonderful In Bohemian, rhapsody And i'm really looking forward to

1364
01:19:48.039 --> 01:19:51.960
seeing what they do with. Her and what's his? Name

1365
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:57.800
who's coming? Back Roger, Korby Roger, krby and we all

1366
01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:01.159
know where she mentions ON tos she was engaged To

1367
01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:04.520
roder To, Korby we're going to see. Him A Strange

1368
01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:06.960
New world's coming, up so it's going to be interesting

1369
01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:09.520
to see how they work The Roger corby story in

1370
01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:13.279
and what they do with. That so happy birthday to Jess.

1371
01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:17.319
Us Now i've got two left on my. LIST i

1372
01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:21.119
usually saved The klingons for, last and this happens to

1373
01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:23.840
be one of my Favorite, klingons But i'm going to

1374
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:28.439
supersede that. Rule just this, once, guys only this. Once

1375
01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:32.960
BUT i want to say happy birthday and blah to

1376
01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:37.640
the Awesome robert O'Reilly of, course who Played gallaron ON

1377
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:40.960
tng AND ds. NINE i REMEMBER i had him at

1378
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:43.239
his very very First Star trek convention that he ever

1379
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.000
did was one of. MINE i called him, up said,

1380
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:47.520
hey you want to come to a, convention and he

1381
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:51.840
did and he was absolutely. Awesome but don't, ever ever

1382
01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:56.239
ever have him on a podcast WITH. Jg hertzler because

1383
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.640
if you, do you won't get to say. Anything the

1384
01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:00.680
two of them just go off and they start riffing

1385
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:03.239
off of each other and before you know, it it

1386
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:06.880
turns into The robert O'Reilly AND. J. G hurtzler. Show

1387
01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:12.279
so happy birthday and ap lot To robert O'Reilly.

1388
01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:15.880
And Jim Moore Star Trek. Trivia those two guys were

1389
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:19.600
only born seven days. APART. J. G rsler was born

1390
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:25.159
On march eighteenth And Robert riley born the twenty what

1391
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:29.600
is it twenty, Fifth so, yeah seven days. Apart nineteen fifty.

1392
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:32.399
Something would end up talking about that a lot if

1393
01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:34.560
you get them together on a, podcast.

1394
01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:37.760
You, know AND i think the biggest thing About robert

1395
01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:40.479
O'Reilly And gowron is Those galeryan eyes you can see

1396
01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:43.079
the pictures up there on the. SCREEN i think it's those,

1397
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:46.439
big wide white. EYES i think is what Makes goron

1398
01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:51.359
so memorable to most. Fans and he is an awesome.

1399
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:55.920
Character and the way he says Rah, ro it's kind of,

1400
01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:58.600
like you, know he wants to biting the head off

1401
01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:00.560
of a. SNAKE i just Love rob but At riley

1402
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:06.600
so happy. Brother, yes and last but not, LEAST i

1403
01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:10.319
think one of the best captains On Star. TREK i said. That,

1404
01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:14.359
YES i think from one, of in my, opinion the

1405
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:17.439
Best Star trek. Shows, YES i said that as. WELL

1406
01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:20.640
i think that her arc On Star trek was one

1407
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:22.880
of the best arcs we've ever seen for a. Captain

1408
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:26.279
every show that we've ever, seen the captain shows up

1409
01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:29.279
and is the. Captain in the case Of Deep space,

1410
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:31.920
Nine cisco is a, commander then he became a. Captain

1411
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:35.520
but usually when we see A Star trek, show the

1412
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:39.279
captain is already established and is the. Captain we don't

1413
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:41.760
get to see what it takes for the captain to

1414
01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:45.359
become the, captain earn the respect of the, crew and

1415
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:50.640
very rarely do we see a, disgrace you, know starfleet

1416
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:53.600
officer rise up to the rank of captain all the

1417
01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:57.000
way to admiral for that. Matter in this, case we

1418
01:22:57.079 --> 01:22:59.680
get to see it. All and of Course i'm talking

1419
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:02.960
about the Awesome Sneiko Martin, green who Plays Michael burnham

1420
01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:06.359
On Star Trek. Discovery she was also On The Walking.

1421
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:09.680
DEAD i think that her character, arc her development On

1422
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:14.479
discovery was absolutely top. Notched it doesn't get any better

1423
01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.399
than what she did with that. Character, also the fact

1424
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:20.439
that she happens to Be spock's, stepsister what more could

1425
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:24.159
you ask? For that second season Of discovery With pike

1426
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:29.960
one of the best. SEASONS i. THINK i can't say

1427
01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:34.159
enough About Sneka Martin green And Michael. BURNHAM i think she's.

1428
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:37.000
GREAT i think she's. UNDERRATED i think a lot of

1429
01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:41.720
fans just hate On discovery so much they can't see

1430
01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:47.800
the forest for the. Trees having a captain who's, vulnerable

1431
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:54.520
having a captain who is, human who can relate to the,

1432
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:56.600
CREW i think is a great, thing AND i think

1433
01:23:56.600 --> 01:24:00.520
that she pulled it off. Wonderfully So happy birthday To

1434
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:06.159
Sineka Martin Green Michael burnham From Star Trek. Discovery, YEAH

1435
01:24:06.199 --> 01:24:06.520
i didn't.

1436
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:08.680
Realize she played on Unch pun a, time AND i have

1437
01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:09.520
to go back and watch that.

1438
01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:15.279
Episode, YEAH I Walking dead had a show on Called Talking,

1439
01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:18.199
dead AND i remember when they killed off her. Character

1440
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:20.359
she got locked in a coffin and turned into a.

1441
01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:24.119
Zombie and when they had her on The Talking, dead

1442
01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:27.119
she came on on The Talking dead and the first

1443
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:30.479
thing she did is she flashed to live long and

1444
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:34.119
prosperous because she knew she was going to be On Star,

1445
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:36.439
trek but she couldn't really say much about. It but

1446
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:39.399
just doing, THAT i knew right away she's going to

1447
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:42.520
be On Star. Trek and there she. Was all, right,

1448
01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:46.760
guys has anybody met her at a convention or Any, No.

1449
01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:55.279
I'd not personally met. Her i've seen her in multiple,

1450
01:24:55.319 --> 01:25:03.680
panels and the personality just. Shine she just. Is she's

1451
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:12.600
the one that ties The discovery family. Together AND i

1452
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:16.039
think you can see that very classy. Lady yes she.

1453
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:20.439
Is, yeah she's. Awesome all, right, Guys well it's time

1454
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:21.800
for Some Star trek.

1455
01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:26.760
News priority one message From starfleet coming in On secure

1456
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:35.159
channel incoming transmission enter authorization code command codes, Verified define

1457
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:38.159
parameters of program.

1458
01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:39.399
Level nine authorization.

1459
01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:43.479
Require specify parameters transfer updata is.

1460
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:47.039
COMPLETE a bark, ALERT a blank.

1461
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:50.439
Alert all, Right, eric you get to kick us off

1462
01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:54.199
with our first news story of the, Evening so take it, away.

1463
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:58.640
Excellent we're gonna go with one of our favorite segments Called,

1464
01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:03.439
shatner Says. Smith Star Trek's William shatner commemorates his ninety

1465
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:08.560
fourth birthday by sharing a heartwarming message with. Fans while

1466
01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:11.399
fans continue to wait for Upcoming Star trek shows to,

1467
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.960
arrive there's a major event we should all. Acknowledge William

1468
01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:18.399
shatner turned ninety four On march twenty, seconds and it

1469
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:21.039
might be his biggest year, yet given his hints that

1470
01:26:21.159 --> 01:26:24.479
he may return to Play james. T. Kirk while we

1471
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:28.359
continue to speculate about his potential, return the actor shared

1472
01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:32.560
a heartwarming message ahead of another. Year he, said AS

1473
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:35.600
i complete my ninety fourth lap around The, SUN i

1474
01:26:35.640 --> 01:26:38.840
am filled with the wonder and awe of. Life thank,

1475
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:42.560
you my friends for making my life so. Special the

1476
01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:44.560
actor may not be able to watch himself In Star,

1477
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.399
trek but he seems grateful that others have over the,

1478
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:50.760
decades as they've helped give him the wonderful. Life he's

1479
01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:55.720
still celebrating every. Day in, Fact shatner has stayed busy

1480
01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:58.520
in his, nineties doing everything from lending his voice to

1481
01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:01.920
a short film feature ring a d Aged, kirk to

1482
01:27:02.079 --> 01:27:06.399
hosting a reality television show About mars nevertheless going to.

1483
01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:09.840
Space he also does a ton of convention Appearances. Yearly

1484
01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:13.119
treky's were grateful to hear From William shatner around his

1485
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:16.720
birthday and sent him well wishes as he celebrated his

1486
01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:19.039
major milestone with friends and. Family we have a few

1487
01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:22.399
of those well wishes. Here one just says happy, Birthday

1488
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:25.760
one says you should be. ETERNAL i admire you so.

1489
01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:30.319
Much one says happy, Birthday Sir. Shatner thanks for existing

1490
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:32.800
and for Bringing kirk to. LIFE i love you so.

1491
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:37.680
Much another says, ditto thank you for actually making something

1492
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:41.680
worth watching ON. Tv and another says happy, birthday old.

1493
01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:46.640
Friend may you have another ninety. Four it's so great

1494
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:49.800
to see love for the actor remain strong In The

1495
01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:52.199
Star Trek, fantom despite the amount of time he's been

1496
01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:55.439
away from. It his last official appearance As Captain kirk

1497
01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:58.159
happened to be in the Movie Star Trek, generations where

1498
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:02.439
his character was killed off Controversial. Manner the star Trek

1499
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:06.119
alum plans to celebrate his birthday by volunteering as he

1500
01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:09.319
has every year for the last thirty five years at his.

1501
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:12.880
Charity he, says for the last many, YEARS i have

1502
01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:16.800
celebrated my birthday by working on a very successful charity

1503
01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:20.760
called The Hollywood Charity Horse. Show we've been doing it

1504
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:23.880
for thirty five years and raised millions of dollars for

1505
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:27.119
children and. Veterans my family is taking me To Las

1506
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:30.119
vegas for dinner and to a, show and then back

1507
01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:33.439
To Los. Angeles it's going to be a family experience

1508
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:37.239
in that, wonderful entertaining. City i'm really looking forward to.

1509
01:28:37.279 --> 01:28:40.560
It he also shared his gratitude on his social media

1510
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:43.560
On saturday to everyone who wished him well on his.

1511
01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:47.479
Day he, said AS i begin my ninety fifth journey

1512
01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:49.920
around The sun, TODAY i want to take a minute

1513
01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:53.560
to thank everyone for the birthday. WISHES i am overwhelmed

1514
01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:57.079
at the amount of LOVE i have. Received my Best

1515
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:01.560
bill very nice to. YOU i know THAT i sort

1516
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:04.119
of rib him a little bit here and there on

1517
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:06.920
Our shatner, says what because he has said some crazy

1518
01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:09.439
stuff over the. Years there's no, question BUT i am

1519
01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:13.039
seriously glad that he's still. Alive AND i think it's

1520
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:15.560
pretty cool that he's in his mid nineties and still

1521
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:19.439
kicking and doing stuff and talking About Star. Treks so happy, Birthday.

1522
01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:22.319
Bill, YEAH i guess you had a really big builder

1523
01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:26.319
at the end for that. Dinner the last sentence my Best.

1524
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:30.960
Bill, WELL i love that he goes To vegas for

1525
01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:35.720
dinner and then goes back To Los. Angeles he's probably

1526
01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:37.760
on a bus or something like where he doesn't even

1527
01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:38.600
know he's on the road.

1528
01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:40.279
Anymore i'm really hungry right.

1529
01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:46.840
Now so do you guys want to See Captain kirk

1530
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:51.079
back On Star trek or are you looking forward to?

1531
01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:53.439
It are you excited about? It what are your thoughts

1532
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:58.000
on him? Returning, Well i'll go.

1533
01:29:58.119 --> 01:30:02.800
FIRST i absolutely don't want to see. HIM i think that.

1534
01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:06.920
ENOUGH i, mean he's he's like a Huge Star trek,

1535
01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:09.039
emissary AND i think that is the perfect role for.

1536
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:12.039
HIM i think to bring him back is to just

1537
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:16.479
like just dig up old stuff that just doesn't need

1538
01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:19.039
to be dug. Up there's so much other Cool Star

1539
01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:23.239
trek out. There other names have now become synonymous With Star,

1540
01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:25.880
trek and it's not just About Bill. Shatner it's not

1541
01:30:25.960 --> 01:30:28.279
just About leonard Deem, why it's not just about Diforest kell.

1542
01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:31.560
ANYMORE i, say let the other people have. It, man

1543
01:30:31.640 --> 01:30:33.720
this is the twenty first. Century Star trek's in a new.

1544
01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:37.520
Place it's got new, characters it's got new. Actors there's

1545
01:30:37.520 --> 01:30:40.239
so many other people out there representing the franchise in amazing.

1546
01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:41.760
WAYS i don't think we need to See bill.

1547
01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:46.600
Again, okay here's a. Question then would you go watch

1548
01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:47.680
him if he ever did come?

1549
01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:47.920
Back?

1550
01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:50.439
Oh of COURSE i. WOULD i, Mean i'll watch anything

1551
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:54.319
That Star. Trek, yeah, yeah BUT i would be highly.

1552
01:30:54.359 --> 01:30:59.800
Skeptical, WELL i, think you, KNOW i think he had

1553
01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:02.920
an opportunity to come back and JJ's Star trek two

1554
01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:06.359
thousand and nine, series Like Leonard nimoy, did, which by the,

1555
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:09.359
WAY i thought was. Brilliant That Leonard nimoy came back

1556
01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:11.640
and the way they brought him BACK i thought was just.

1557
01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:16.520
Brilliant And shatner could have been there, Too Except shantner's

1558
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:20.600
ego is just a tiny bit too, big and he

1559
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:23.319
wouldn't do it because the movie wasn't about him and

1560
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:25.560
the role wasn't big, enough so he turned it. Down

1561
01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:29.640
Leonard nimoy had no problem jumped right, On SO i

1562
01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:33.079
Think shatner had the, opportunity he chose not to do.

1563
01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:36.640
It so leave it in the past and move. On

1564
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:40.279
as my thoughts on, That i'm with, You i'm With

1565
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:41.600
eric for.

1566
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:45.079
SURE i could go either. WAY i, mean if it

1567
01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:47.800
doesn't come, back that's. Great if you, does, YAY i

1568
01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:52.239
could watch. It if longer is a good, plot, True, yeah.

1569
01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:56.239
To watch anything It's Star. Trek i'm, there But i'd

1570
01:31:56.359 --> 01:31:57.880
rather see the screen time given to some.

1571
01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:03.479
NEWS i think the are looking still towards. LEGACY i

1572
01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:05.279
don't think they want to go all the way back TO,

1573
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:08.760
ts BUT i think they would love legacy from the

1574
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:09.960
eighties and Nineties.

1575
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:18.119
Trek, yeah AND i think it's, time in my, opinion

1576
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:20.439
to move away from the eighties and Nineties. TREK i

1577
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:24.239
think That Strange New worlds is more than enough Retro,

1578
01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:28.600
trek and it's time to move, ahead which Hopefully Starfleet academy,

1579
01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:33.239
will and hopefully the next news story. Will So i've

1580
01:32:33.239 --> 01:32:37.560
got the next one. Here Alex curseman gives a live

1581
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:42.479
action comedy update and says that they can Broaden Star

1582
01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:45.880
trek's appeal With Star Trek Lower decks all wrapped, up

1583
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:51.039
the franchises once again out of comedy. Business, however, However

1584
01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:55.560
Lower deck's voice actress And Starfleet academy, writer which WHICH

1585
01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:57.800
i can't wait to see what she does with. It

1586
01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:03.600
Tawnie newsome right here the, picture who plays A mariner

1587
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:07.720
On Lower, decks wants to change that and is developing

1588
01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:11.119
a live Action Star trek comedy with writer Director Justin.

1589
01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:14.560
Seman newsom said that at The San diego since the

1590
01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:18.079
project was first, relieved revealed that The San Diego Comic

1591
01:33:18.079 --> 01:33:21.479
con In july of twenty twenty, four the concept has

1592
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:25.359
shifted a little, bit but she And justin were still

1593
01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:28.039
hard at work finding a way to Do trek in

1594
01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:32.520
the workplace comedy type. Zone kurtzman confirmed he had not

1595
01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:36.520
yet seen, scripts noting they're just breaking the. Story the

1596
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:40.359
executive producer also said he speaks to them about the project,

1597
01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:44.560
regularly ADDING i, MEAN i adore them both so very.

1598
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:48.680
Much they're so, fantastic AND i trust them a. LOT

1599
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:52.000
i think that Obviously Lower decks And prodigy and a

1600
01:33:52.039 --> 01:33:54.359
lot of comedy that we've touched on In Strange New

1601
01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:57.199
worlds and in a different show proves That Star trek

1602
01:33:57.279 --> 01:34:00.760
can broaden as long as you're maintaining the central vision

1603
01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:05.560
Of Star, Trek roddenberry's essential vision of that optimistic, future

1604
01:34:06.279 --> 01:34:09.000
that of hope that actually allows you to go into

1605
01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:12.399
a lot of different. Territory and you, know that's a

1606
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:16.920
new area we're going to. Explore the official log line

1607
01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:21.760
says the show is About federation outsiders serving a gleaming

1608
01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:25.079
resort planet find out that their day to day exploits

1609
01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:29.279
are being broadcast to the entire. Quadrant Paramount plus has

1610
01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:31.920
yet to announce the show has a green light so

1611
01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:35.079
far for The Star trek. Workplace comedy is still considered in,

1612
01:34:35.199 --> 01:34:38.840
development And newsom is doing double duty As curseman also

1613
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:43.760
told us he has already resembled The Starfleet academy writer's

1614
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:46.439
room for the second, season which he expects to begin

1615
01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:51.479
production around. Midyear the first season wrap production In toronto In.

1616
01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:55.079
February you, KNOW i Think Toddy newsom is. AWESOME i

1617
01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:59.079
thought she was great on the crossover episode Of Strange New,

1618
01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:01.760
worlds And i'm really excited to see what she does

1619
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:04.560
With Star. Trek AND i think in order For Star

1620
01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:08.279
trek to grow and, prosper it needs to change and

1621
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:11.960
it needs to be with the. Time we can't always

1622
01:35:12.039 --> 01:35:16.039
have eighties and Nineties berman Era. Trek we have to

1623
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:20.119
move on from that Or Star trek will become. Stale

1624
01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:22.840
SO i want to see What Tani newsom can do with,

1625
01:35:22.880 --> 01:35:26.119
it And i'm really looking forward to. It what about you?

1626
01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:28.880
Guys oh, YEAH.

1627
01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:31.640
I mean she's. Awesome she's so. COOL i mean they

1628
01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:37.119
do that awesome podcast, too Which i'm now not going

1629
01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:41.000
to remember the name. OF i think it's Called Dude

1630
01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:45.600
is That. Racist it's just a fantastic podcast. Station you

1631
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:48.760
should check it out if you. Haven't BUT i beg

1632
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.119
At mariner is just such a great, character and her

1633
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:56.039
wit and like quickness of delivery with that character just

1634
01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:59.479
keeps everybody super. Engaged so the writing's, Fantastic but, like

1635
01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:02.479
if you don't have somebody there voicing that character in

1636
01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:05.560
the correct, way you're just not Gonna you're not gonna

1637
01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:07.319
get it in the same. Way SO i Think Toddy

1638
01:36:07.399 --> 01:36:09.520
newsom's awesome AND i can't wait to see what she

1639
01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:10.960
does as a writer In Star.

1640
01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:15.439
Trek and you, know after seeing how awesome her And

1641
01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:18.880
boyemler were On Strange New, WORLDS i think it would

1642
01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:22.239
be the greatest thing in the world to see a

1643
01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:26.720
live Action Lower decks, movie you, know like they did

1644
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:29.920
With section thirty. ONE i think they prove that it

1645
01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:32.119
can be, done AND i would love to see.

1646
01:36:32.119 --> 01:36:33.960
IT i THINK i think it would be awesome if

1647
01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:38.720
they Brought dog back and Did dog as live action WITH.

1648
01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:47.520
Cgi, yeah so there's a lot they can do with.

1649
01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:51.039
That is this her first writing experience or has she

1650
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:51.880
written Other.

1651
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:54.000
No she's written in the past for, sure but this

1652
01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:55.720
is her first time as like a head.

1653
01:36:55.720 --> 01:37:00.720
Writer oh, yep start The. Academy sounds like it's going

1654
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:01.199
to be pretty.

1655
01:37:01.239 --> 01:37:04.079
Good so, Yeah i'm definitely looking forward to it. TOO

1656
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:07.159
i just hope that they don't change it too. MUCH i,

1657
01:37:07.199 --> 01:37:10.399
mean keeping abud and very vision alive would be the

1658
01:37:10.479 --> 01:37:14.119
number one, priority of. Course but, Yeah i'm looking forward

1659
01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:14.640
to seeing what they.

1660
01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:18.039
Do it is going to be in The discovery, universe

1661
01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:22.840
so way in the. Future So, CHARLES i think you've

1662
01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:24.760
got our next. STORY i put this one in there

1663
01:37:24.840 --> 01:37:25.079
just for.

1664
01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:28.960
You, Definitely i've already seen and looking forward to this.

1665
01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:35.640
One Star trek Red shirts launches In. JULY Idw publishing

1666
01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:40.239
is to put out a New Star trek comics series In,

1667
01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:45.800
july written by Regular Star trek Writers Christopher Can't well

1668
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:49.880
Called Star trek Red. SHIRTS i guess we can see

1669
01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:55.560
where this is. Going with covers By Chris, shutland s

1670
01:37:55.800 --> 01:38:02.399
Ja letal And Decan. Shed Star Trek redcharts number one

1671
01:38:02.439 --> 01:38:06.439
we published on the sixteenth Of july twenty twenty. Five

1672
01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:10.520
infections of Red shirts is an informal urn for a

1673
01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:16.279
stock character is killed off shortly after being, introduced often

1674
01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:20.359
introduced for the sole purpose of being killed off while

1675
01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:25.720
little else in the. Story the term originates From Star

1676
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:29.960
trek television series in which red shirt read uniform security

1677
01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:34.520
officers and engineers as parties of on landing parties of

1678
01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:38.039
strange alien, planets would often suffer death in the. Episode

1679
01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:43.039
presumably this series will focus on touch characters attempting to

1680
01:38:43.039 --> 01:38:49.159
avoid their inevitable narrative driven. DEATHS a concept also forms

1681
01:38:49.159 --> 01:38:53.520
a lot of thinking behind the animated Show Star Trek Lower,

1682
01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:58.840
decks and there's also a Novel Red shirts By John.

1683
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:04.760
Scalzi it also satirizes the troop in which several senior

1684
01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:11.960
officers Have intrepid flagship the Universe Universal Union, laminade the

1685
01:39:12.039 --> 01:39:15.399
unusual number of high, casualty the low ranking crew members

1686
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:19.800
during a recent way missions and conclude they must need

1687
01:39:19.880 --> 01:39:26.199
more crew members to replace. Them it deaflys interesting little

1688
01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:31.239
backstories of crew members before they're killed.

1689
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:36.279
Off have you had a chance, Yet charles to Read

1690
01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:39.800
Red shirts By John. SCOLNI i have not read. It

1691
01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:44.640
definitely should check it. OUT i think anybody who's A

1692
01:39:44.640 --> 01:39:49.399
Star trek fan should read that. Book it's, Actually i'm

1693
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:51.279
not going to say it'll totally knock your socks, off

1694
01:39:51.319 --> 01:39:55.479
but it is an extremely enjoyable book that has comedic

1695
01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:58.359
elements to, it but it is not a comedy, book

1696
01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:01.239
and in, fact it gets kind of like weirdly serious

1697
01:40:01.279 --> 01:40:04.640
towards the end of the. Book so that is. Fantastic

1698
01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:08.359
this comic book sounds awesome and it sounds like it

1699
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:13.079
could be potentially very funny, Too, Right like when you

1700
01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:16.479
take That Star trek trope of people With Red shirts

1701
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.760
dying all the time and you write it into a,

1702
01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:23.159
story it's okay to know where the story's. Going it's

1703
01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:26.079
not the, destination it's the, journey, Right it's how you

1704
01:40:26.159 --> 01:40:28.560
got there that becomes the funny part of. It So

1705
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:29.880
i'm super excited about this one.

1706
01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:33.760
Myself that could be a Future Comic corner as.

1707
01:40:33.800 --> 01:40:38.319
Well, absolutely, yes, Yeah and if anybody else wants to

1708
01:40:38.319 --> 01:40:40.640
Read Red, shirts we can always review that. Too it's

1709
01:40:40.680 --> 01:40:43.039
not Exactly Star, trek but it's pretty, close.

1710
01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:48.119
All. Right and on that, Note i've got the next,

1711
01:40:48.159 --> 01:40:50.479
story and you guys are never going to figure out

1712
01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:56.039
WHY i grabbed this, one The klingon Next, Door Off,

1713
01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:59.279
Duty The Warriors way, Book and there's the cover for

1714
01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:02.640
it right. There New York times best selling illustrator and

1715
01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:07.039
Author Joey spiddo makes His Star trek debut With klingon Next,

1716
01:41:07.079 --> 01:41:10.760
Door Off Duty The Warriors, Way and there he is

1717
01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:15.880
ironing his, uniform a, charming imaginative and beautifully Illustrated klingon

1718
01:41:15.960 --> 01:41:18.600
cartoon book From Titan, Books and there he is feeding

1719
01:41:18.640 --> 01:41:24.279
his Baby, gored arriving on shelves later this, year On september,

1720
01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:27.760
second twenty twenty. Five what does A Klingon warrior get

1721
01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:31.439
up to in his? Downtime what song would he choose

1722
01:41:31.479 --> 01:41:33.760
as a karaoke Bar how does a trip to the

1723
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:37.520
barber work out for? Him from sports to, shopping hobbies to,

1724
01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:42.439
holidays pets to personal groomy discover how an honorable not

1725
01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:46.720
those not Those Klingon guys on The, Council i'm talking Honorable.

1726
01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:51.039
Klingons how does an Honorable warrior take his challenge of

1727
01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:54.000
day to day life and learn how to? Relax And

1728
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:58.119
klingon Next Door Off Duty The Warrior's, way which features

1729
01:41:58.159 --> 01:42:02.680
over seventy original cartoon celebrating everything cling on in and

1730
01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:07.760
out of place. Existence pre Order klingon Next Door Off

1731
01:42:07.840 --> 01:42:13.039
Duty Warriors way on Shelf. September Two Titan. Books you,

1732
01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:15.720
Know i'm really looking forward to seeing what they. Did

1733
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:18.600
it looks like an area is. Barbecuing i'm really looking

1734
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:21.520
forward to checking this. OUT i think it's going to

1735
01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:25.520
be like the the what was that, that The book Of.

1736
01:42:27.039 --> 01:42:27.359
Book A?

1737
01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:30.760
Grudge, yeah The book Of garadge from My. DISCOVERY i

1738
01:42:30.760 --> 01:42:32.840
think it will Be book A grudge type. Thing So

1739
01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:35.720
i'm looking forward to. It maybe we can talk about

1740
01:42:35.720 --> 01:42:39.039
that on the. Podcasters it wouldn't be a comic. Corner

1741
01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:41.840
maybe a book. Nook i'm not sure where that would.

1742
01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:48.000
Fall maybe a, book, so, uh let's, See, eric would

1743
01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:49.239
you like to take the next? Story?

1744
01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:56.800
Sure. Uh Star Trek's Jonathan freaks dropped an update On Starfleet.

1745
01:42:56.840 --> 01:43:00.920
Academy they say loose lip sync ship, yes But i'm

1746
01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:03.600
not sure if the same rule applies in. Spacecraft we'll

1747
01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:08.399
find out Because Jonathan fraakes has once again prematurely let

1748
01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:12.199
slip previously unknown information about an Upcoming Star trek, Series

1749
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:16.800
The Next. Generation legend attended a convention last, weekend and

1750
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:20.039
attendees got to watch him spill the beans About Star

1751
01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:24.199
Trek Academy Starfleet. Academy after mentioning the series will feature

1752
01:43:24.279 --> 01:43:28.439
movie stars Like Holly hunter and Longtime trek Fan Paul,

1753
01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:34.880
giamatti he also dropped some transportation based, information Saying Robert

1754
01:43:34.920 --> 01:43:38.159
pricardo's in, It Tig nataro's in. IT i Love, tig

1755
01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:41.119
but it has the most massive set of Any Star trek.

1756
01:43:41.199 --> 01:43:44.039
Ever there's also a spaceship on this, show WHICH i.

1757
01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:49.039
THINK i hope that's not a fucking. SECRET i have been.

1758
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:52.000
Known i've had a bad experience with, oversharing AND i

1759
01:43:52.039 --> 01:43:55.079
hope that it wasn't an. Overshare but it's. Fabulous the

1760
01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:58.680
sets are, great the scripts Are they're, funny which is

1761
01:43:58.680 --> 01:44:01.279
always helpful On Star. Trek it'll be nice to get

1762
01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:03.840
the best of both worlds between time at The academy

1763
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:07.000
and time out in the. Field potentially With Robert PACCARDO'S

1764
01:44:07.039 --> 01:44:09.800
emh as part of the. Crew we don't have an

1765
01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:12.439
official release date yet For Starfleet, academy but we know

1766
01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:16.520
that season one wrap production Mid. February this means the

1767
01:44:16.640 --> 01:44:20.159
lengthy post production, process which can take many, months is

1768
01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:24.800
likely underway as it. Stands widespread speculation has many thinking

1769
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:28.439
it won't arrive until twenty twenty. Six so his big

1770
01:44:28.479 --> 01:44:31.279
reveal was that there's a really cool ship with a

1771
01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:35.560
big giant. Set naga was too much of a, reveal

1772
01:44:35.720 --> 01:44:38.520
but it is kind of funny how he just has

1773
01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:41.880
a hard, time like keeping his mouth shut about. THIS

1774
01:44:42.079 --> 01:44:44.199
i wonder if he's ever actually gotten in trouble with

1775
01:44:44.279 --> 01:44:47.000
like HIS. Nda i've had a, Convention.

1776
01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:49.680
Charles do you want to answer that?

1777
01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:53.560
One Charles, WELL i don't know if that's in, trouble

1778
01:44:54.720 --> 01:45:02.279
BUT i remember during steveson won of Per CARD i

1779
01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:06.439
believe it was when he came out on stage in

1780
01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:12.840
the panel on stage with his shirt which rid don't ask,

1781
01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:18.600
ME i signed AN nba and basically just sat there and,

1782
01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:22.079
SAID i can't say. ANYTHING i can't talk about, IT

1783
01:45:22.159 --> 01:45:24.520
i can't discuss. IT i don't want to deal with

1784
01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:29.680
what's being what's going on with? It it just it

1785
01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:30.920
was hilarious with that.

1786
01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:39.119
Shirt So i'll jump in here and cover our last

1787
01:45:39.159 --> 01:45:43.000
story for the. Evening, Here Star Trek Lower decks is

1788
01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:45.760
nominated for A Nebula, award and there it Is Star

1789
01:45:45.840 --> 01:45:51.439
trek five, logo the Best Star trek movie ever, Ever, Right.

1790
01:45:51.399 --> 01:45:55.359
Eric, Absolutely, Jim you're completely right.

1791
01:45:56.079 --> 01:46:00.640
There it is talking About empire striped. Back, Right, yeah

1792
01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:03.279
that's what he, said right.

1793
01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:10.079
Five Lower decks season five And mike McMahon specifically scored

1794
01:46:10.079 --> 01:46:13.560
a nomination this year for The Ray Bradbury Nebula award

1795
01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:22.399
For Outstanding Dramatic, presentation which recognizes dramatic works such as motion, pictures, television, internet, radio,

1796
01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:27.960
audio and stage. Productions nominees and winners are voted on

1797
01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:32.760
by members of The Science fiction And Fantasy Writers association THE.

1798
01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:38.439
Sfwa for those of you who are keeping, track the

1799
01:46:38.479 --> 01:46:41.119
show has some tough competition, though so it's not going

1800
01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:44.000
to be a cakewalk For Lower decks this. Year they're

1801
01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:47.960
up Against Doctor, Who dot And The bubble By RUSSELL.

1802
01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:49.119
T davies on THE.

1803
01:46:49.159 --> 01:46:53.680
Bbc by the fantastic, episode fantastic.

1804
01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:56.720
Episode you, KNOW i haven't watched Any Doctor who since

1805
01:46:56.760 --> 01:47:00.960
we stopped reviewing The lady doctorisodes there.

1806
01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:03.920
Well And Shooty gattwa is an amazing new doctor and

1807
01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:06.960
dott And bubble in particular is a super cool kind

1808
01:47:06.960 --> 01:47:11.600
of riff on today's over technological life that we live.

1809
01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:14.600
In so if you if you wanted to just start

1810
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:17.359
and see one episode of His Doctor, who that's a

1811
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:19.399
great place to, start all.

1812
01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:22.720
Right so there's there's part of the tough. Competition they're

1813
01:47:22.760 --> 01:47:28.520
also up Against Doune part two By John status And Dennis. Belenuvo,

1814
01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:34.119
yeah So i'm not A dune, fan SO i never

1815
01:47:34.159 --> 01:47:36.279
even saw, that SO i don't know if it's good or,

1816
01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:38.920
not but if it got, nominated it must. Be it's.

1817
01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:43.079
AMAZING i Saw THE Tv glow By Draine scoborne from

1818
01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:47.720
a twenty Four FILMS. LLLC i have never never watched that,

1819
01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:51.960
either SO i don't know anything about. That chaos By

1820
01:47:52.079 --> 01:47:56.800
Charlie kovo And George christo On. Netflix, AGAIN i must be.

1821
01:47:56.920 --> 01:48:00.439
Ignorant i've never seen, that SO i don't. Know And

1822
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:04.800
wicked By Winnie holsman And Dana fox From Universal. PICTURES

1823
01:48:05.199 --> 01:48:07.000
i did see, that AND i won't say WHAT i

1824
01:48:07.039 --> 01:48:10.159
thought about. It The Raighty Bradbury award was created in

1825
01:48:10.199 --> 01:48:13.720
two thousand and, nine and that year Writers Robert orchi

1826
01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:17.119
And Alex kurtzman and DIRECTOR Jj abrams were nominated for

1827
01:48:17.159 --> 01:48:21.119
the First Calvin universe Film Star. Trek the win went

1828
01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:24.880
To district, nine written By Nell blowcamp And Terry. Tatchell

1829
01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:28.359
The Nebula awards will be handed out On june seventh

1830
01:48:28.640 --> 01:48:34.600
at the Sixtieth Annual Nebula Award conference In Kansas. City and,

1831
01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:40.640
that my, friends wraps up Our Star trek. News so

1832
01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:44.560
next week we're going to be doing a show that

1833
01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:49.479
we've been trying to do Called Great, performances and that's

1834
01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:51.119
where each one of our truck spirts is going to

1835
01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:54.199
pick one of our favorite actors and one of our favorite.

1836
01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:56.039
Roles we're going to throw it out there and we're

1837
01:48:56.039 --> 01:48:58.119
going to talk about. It so that'll be on next

1838
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:02.319
week's podcast and anything anybody want to bring up before

1839
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:08.680
we go hailing? Out, no all, right so all, right

1840
01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:10.840
so make sure you head over to Our facebook page

1841
01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:13.840
and help us out At. Patreon we really appreciate. THAT

1842
01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:15.680
i want to say thank you so much To. Paul

1843
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:18.479
you had the Book, girly but thank you for joining us, Tonight.

1844
01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:21.199
Paul we really appreciate, it and thank you To, david

1845
01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:24.680
our miracle, worker for this wonderful slide show that we're

1846
01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:27.840
enjoying right, now which you're not seeing if you're only

1847
01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:30.520
listening to the. Audio so maybe you want to head

1848
01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:33.319
over To patreon so you can see these excellent videos

1849
01:49:33.319 --> 01:49:36.159
That david puts together for. Us i'm just SAYING i

1850
01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:39.319
think it's well worth the two. Dollars thank you so, Much. David,

1851
01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:40.840
yeah you're very.

1852
01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:43.880
Welcome and a little SEGMENT i wanted to add in

1853
01:49:44.319 --> 01:49:47.760
for You skytrack fans. Listening if there's anything you want

1854
01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:50.119
me to add to, it, remove or you, know change

1855
01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:53.479
about the, slideshows just send us a line On facebook

1856
01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:54.880
AND i we'll see what we can.

1857
01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:58.279
Do, yeah and as, well if you'd like to see

1858
01:49:58.319 --> 01:50:01.520
your picture featured in our fans shout out, section if

1859
01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:03.560
you can send that to us On facebook as, well

1860
01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:06.039
we'd love to put your picture up there With eric and.

1861
01:50:06.119 --> 01:50:08.800
MYSELF i also want to say thank you To charles

1862
01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:10.840
for hanging out and trek talking with us as. Well

1863
01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:12.920
thank you so, Much. Charles it was a pleasure as.

1864
01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:17.319
Usual thank you always. Fun got to get some pictures

1865
01:50:17.359 --> 01:50:22.520
over to you And. DAVID i should be in that show.

1866
01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:28.600
Too, yeah get some pictures up. There and of, course

1867
01:50:28.640 --> 01:50:30.279
thank you so much To eric for hanging out And

1868
01:50:30.359 --> 01:50:33.039
trek talking with. Us, eric it was a blast as,

1869
01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:35.239
always absolutely.

1870
01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:37.600
Man thank you guys so much for always being here On.

1871
01:50:37.680 --> 01:50:39.640
Thursdays for, me it's always SOMETHING i look forward.

1872
01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:44.079
To Friday's eve as we call. It that's, Right Friday's,

1873
01:50:44.119 --> 01:50:48.880
eve And i'm your most excellent, Host Uncle jim, saying,

1874
01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:51.800
hey stay safe and be good to each, other and

1875
01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:55.760
Remember Star trek fans are the best. Fans thank you

1876
01:50:56.239 --> 01:51:00.359
for being a. Fan hailing frequencies are. Closed good, night.

1877
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:01.479
Everybody good.

1878
01:51:01.520 --> 01:51:03.600
Night i'm long and pay for.

1879
01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:06.319
All.

1880
01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:13.640
Stations i'm ready for, departure. Sir some, problem, Right i'm

1881
01:51:13.720 --> 01:51:15.920
just hoping this isn't the usual way our missions will, go.

1882
01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:17.600
Sir, oh, no number.

1883
01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:25.119
One i'm sure most will be much more. Interesting let's

1884
01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:30.840
see what's out. There engage