March 28, 2026

Episode 679 Starfleet Academy "Rubincon" review

Episode 679 Starfleet Academy "Rubincon" review
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Uncle Jim and his crew Explore detailed analysis and fan reactions to the season finale of Star Trek: Starfleet Academy,"Rubincon" including themes of growth, justice, and reflection of current events. In this episode, the hosts discuss character growth, season reviews, and the future of the franchise amidst industry challenges. They also honor Star Trek legends and celebrate notable birthdays, sharing personal stories and insights.

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Star Trek, Starfleet Academy, season finale, fan reactions, Caleb, Nus Braca, Jet Reno, Paul Giamatti, episode review, science fiction, character development Star Trek, Starfleet Academy, character growth, season review, franchise future, industry challenges, Star Trek legends, birthdays, fan reactions

key topics

  • Episode recap and analysis
  • Themes of justice, accountability, and growth
  • Character development and performances
  • Fan reactions and scores
  • Connections to current societal issues Character development in Starfleet Academy
  • Season review and fan reactions
  • The future of Star Trek amidst industry challenges
  • Justice and Accountability in Sci-Fi

  • Character Growth and Reflection
  • Current Societal Parallels in Star Trek

  • Star Trek promotes diversity, hope, and unity.
  • Fan reactions vary, but honest feedback is valuable.
  • Industry challenges impact franchise development.




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Now.

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About jam.

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Well, good evening Trekkers and trekkers around the globe. It's Thursday,

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March twenty six, twenty twenty six. Welcome to episode six

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hundred and seventy nine of Track, Talking and Beyond. I'm

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your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, And before we get

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too far, I'd like to go around the room and

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introduce my awesome trek experts. And we're gonna start off

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with the Portland Wing and we're gonna say hello to David.

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How you doing tonight, David.

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I'm pretty sleepy. Sorry for the slunched out there, but

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I just have a lazy David climb in my pjs.

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So that's okay.

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Back in the day when we were strictly on block

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talk radio, nobody would have known that if you didn't

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tell them, But.

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Now they can see.

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Yeah, take my lawn gun.

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And also from Portland, we have a very own toy guy, Paul.

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And how you doing tonight, Paul. I'm not hearing Paul.

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You're muted, buddy, Sorry about that.

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I was just so so taking aback by David's sleepwear

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admission that I was paralyzed and unable to move my

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hand to the mute button. I said, I said, I'm

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I'm doing well. I'm doing well. This should be interesting week,

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to be sure, lots to talk about.

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I did see that there's going to be a special

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panel coming up from the Cell, so maybe soon we

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will have an unboxing of some new Star Trek toys.

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Homeboy likes to reveal stuff, and when he's a COT,

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I mean basically, he doesn't show up unless he's got

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new stuff to show people. Those stuff thoesn't really arrive yet,

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but I'm sure it will soon. But yeah, they should

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be interesting. I'm sure at some point by Sunday morning

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thereabouts we'll have some good reveals from Brian Bowg twice,

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so that'd be cool.

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I love to get him on the podcast.

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But he's right.

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I know, he's like a SaaS squatch. You know, by

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the time I see him, he's gone. So I'm still

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tracking him down though, I'm still tracking him down. And

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normally from Portland, except for tonight, we have a very

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own air. Eric, how are you doing tonight?

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Eric?

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Doing pretty good, Jim, I'm actually in your time zone

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right now. He had broadcasting live from Indiana, Pennsylvania, which

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turns out as a real place. And that's why I

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look a little weird. I don't have my fancy green screen.

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I've got a hotel light that I took the shade

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off of so I didn't turn yellow. But now I'm pasty.

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I don't even know anyway I made it. I made

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it to the show. That's what's important.

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That's that's the important stuff. And not from Portland, by

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the way, but from Virginia. We have a very own

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v Yeah.

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Gee, I wonder it just showed up in the mail

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one day.

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You know, now you're officially part of the game.

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I know, I just need to paint my little avatar

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on there somehow. Yeah, before I know it's okay, it's

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it's fine. It's an honor just to have it, and

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I'm I'm glad to be back. At some point in time,

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I'll talk a little bit about my trip to Galaxy

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Con Richmond last weekend, where I met some Star Trek people,

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so that was.

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Cool, and the pictures looked awesome.

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By the way, yep they were. They're awesome. People just

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got the con crud. Apparently that's the thing, because Saturday

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it was wall to wall people. I came home Saturday

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afternoon because I'd been there since Thursday and I was

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wiped out, and Sunday I started to feel unwell. But

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I'm here. I sound worse than I feel, so it's

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all good. Glad to be back.

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That we're glad to have you back that way, and

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also not from Portland, but from Las Vegas. We have

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our very own child. How are you doing to night, Charls.

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I'm doing all right. Hopefully the birds aren't bothering anybody.

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It's cool down a little bit. It's a ninety two

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today compared to yesterday's ninety eight. Yikes, And I got

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to take my friends. My friend's comment that she loves

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about a NASCAR driver to David. Hey, David, nice PJS

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to Denny Hamlin joke when they're back back in COVID.

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Denny was in his uniform going to Pizza Hut and

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some kid looked at hum like, oh, Danny nice PJS.

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Oof burn m So she loves that joke.

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They are nice TJ. They are nice PJ. As I said,

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I mean most host uncle Jim. And I am not

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in Virginia. I'm not in Las Vegas and I'm not

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in Portland. I'm way up in the sticks of Vermont.

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So that's awesome.

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Before we get too far, we got a lot of

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pokers to fire.

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One of them is we are going to have with

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us the very the President of Navarre for those of

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you who don't know. That's the new Vulcan slash Romulan

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homeworld from a Star Trek Discovery, A very own Tara

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Rosalind And I think David, I think has a picture

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that I sent him to just for you those of

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you who don't remember her. Did you get that, David?

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Okay, can you put it on the screen. Do we

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have to wait for it?

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We know, guys, right now, we are like a Swiss

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watch if Switzerland was in the middle of Lake Jersey

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know it to you guys.

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He doesn't want to.

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I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do.

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All right, it is We're a Swiss, a Swiss watch,

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but it's from Timu.

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Yeah, well, well.

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I sent them. She's gonna be with us on April

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twenty seven, and she's.

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Looking at her contract right now, going what have I done.

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To get out of this show?

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I mean really, I think I made a terrible mistake.

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But so.

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She's married to Saru and she's a Vulcan and she's

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done some other stuff.

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And here we are and there we are and here

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we go and all right, so all right we can

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move on now.

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Maybe wow, there we go. Better late than never. That's

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terror Rozland. And she is going to be here on

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the twenty seven, so that's going to be a lot

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of fun. And on the sixteenth we're going to be

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talking to her husband, Doug Jones, mister Saru. So we've

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got a lot planned for you guys coming up in

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We'd love to have you on tonight's show.

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We're gonna be talking about the episode ten, the season

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one finale at Starfleet Academy the Ruben Cohn, so we're

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going to be tackling that a little bit later. We

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also have our fans shout outs, and that's where we

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say thank you to fans just like you for supporting

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our podcast around the globe. We have our Cadet review

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with sub Commander Charles. We have our fan reactions and

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fans scores from the episode. We also have our sci

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Fi Birthday so you can find out what sci fi

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actor you share a birthday with and what's going on

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around the Star Trek University. We have some sad news

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and some good news, and we're going to get to

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all of it a little bit later, but before we

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go too far, let's dive into our fan shout outs

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and we'll let Eric get us started. So Eric, take

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us away with our fan shoutouts, Buddy.

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Yeah.

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Our first fan shout out this week goes out to

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Chantal van Bruegel from the Netherlands. Thanks for saying hi

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to us, Chantal. We really appreciate your support and I

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cannot wait to visit your country. I know I always

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say this when the Netherlands come up, but only place

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on the planet where fifty percent of the land is

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below sea level, so they are masters of floating architecture

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and I just can't wait to go check that out

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because it ties right in to my grad school thesis

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from like twenty years ago. Thanks Chantal. Also saying hello

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this week to James Fairbairn, who's hailing from Ayrshire in

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Scotland in the UK. Thanks James for saying hello to

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us this week. Spinning back over to Germany, we're saying

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hello this week to Silka Doque, who hails from Solongen

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In in that beautiful, that beautiful area of the North Rhine.

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The Vestphalia right along the Rhine River there, So Silke,

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thank you so much for saying hello to us. And

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last but not least on my list, I'd like to

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say hello to Matt Webster, who hails from Pagington, England.

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Who would you like to say hello to you?

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I like to say hello to Chris Claire, who is

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sending a couple of emojis here from Nova Scotia, Canada,

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our wonderful neighbor to the north. And it looks like

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two poofy clouds, the Vulcan Livelong and prosper hand sign

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and the lovely Canadian flag. So hello and thank you

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to Chris. Next, ooh, a familiar name, Jim Kirk from Indiana, USA.

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I wonder if he just lives in Indie that talk

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talk get the lips to work. Does he just work

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in space but he lives in Indiana. I don't know anyway,

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Hello to Jim. Next Sean McGill, who is saying hello

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to us from Orlando, Florida. And last but not least,

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Elaine Diana Kilgore, who is saying hello to us from

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man West, Virginia. So thank you to all of you.

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You all right, Charles, you are next.

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Well, thank you.

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The Let's start it with somebody who's probably hanging near Eric.

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Maybe we'll let him know where Eric is, because we're

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gonna welcoming Frank Garcia from Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He's

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not far from Eric. Or Jonathan James, who is over

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in Baltimore, Maryland, not far from Eric right now. How

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about Razor Blade, Royster the Third from North Carolina. Interesting name,

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Razor Blade. Everybody over there on the East coast and

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join the cooler weather, and welcome to Clenda Taylor from Wyoming, Paul,

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who's on your part.

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Of the globe. Thank you, Charles, like I needed that

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very much.

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Well, let's take a little hiatus from these not quite

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so United States and go over and visit the European

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continent for a bit and neighbors adjacent. First of all,

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we'll go over to Dusseldorf, Germany, where Lara Schneider is

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flippin' us the Vulcan big one there from Dusseldorf. Great

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to hear from you, Laura, and I know that there's

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we actually have a large number of Star Trek fans

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representing the German contingent which is lovely to see, so

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always great to hear from ULARA jump the continents briefly

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adding to the other part of the equator. We'll go

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down to Zimbabwe, South Africa, where Stephen James Frost is.

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Saying hello to us.

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See you got Star Trek fans everywhere. If you're able

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to just communicate with them, be straight with them, talk

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to them. They're everywhere. They're eager for content, aren't they

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going back to Europe because there is absolutely no organizational

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process or order to us at all.

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We're just spinning the globe random.

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Take it away, Charles, Thank you.

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Uncle Jim. Didn't think I was gonna find much on

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this one, but found quite a few interesting links and

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interesting connections in here. We talked about minds, and there's

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owned the Alpha quadrant. Of course, when somebody decided to

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episode twenty five and twenty six. Of course, because Q

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is where the doctor acquired his twenty ninth century mobile

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emitter that he used to take himself off of the

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six off of Sick Bay, and he actually removed that

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emitter to put himself in the computer in this episode

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and for Paul that I missed last week Voyager the

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Omega Directive season four, episode twenty one, where we got

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the Omega particle which is connected to the Omega forty seven.

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Curtric episode titled Rubicon. Discovery Rubicon EPI season four, episode nine,

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focus of the metaphor where characters commit to irreversible action.

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The phrase implies an irrevolable decision. I'll get at least

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Eric on this one, maybe a couple of people. I

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the Galaxy. There's a reference to that book and at

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or Go Part two, Season one, episode ten, The Fleet

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comes to the Rescue. So that's someke it at reviews.

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But I bet Paul's over their itching to talk about

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Thank you, Charles.

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I appreciate that setup done so adroitly. So this is

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just to kind of catch everybody up, because sometimes it's

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we are talking here about we've come to it at last.

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This is the season one finale of Starfleet Academy, episode

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number ten, and a brief correction, this episode is not

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called Rubicon. This episode is called Rubin Khan. It is

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a play of words on rubin kh a rubicon because

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there is an N in the title rubinkod. It is

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rubicon itself. A part from the title. Is a literary

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idiot that refers to take an irrevocable life altering step,

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origination from Julius Caesar's decision to cross the Rubicon River

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with his army in forty nine PC. That act broke

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Roman law and it made a point of no return

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that guaranteed there would be civil war and eventually led

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to the foundations of the Roman Empire. Oh, education never

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hurt anybody, but I just like to make sure we're

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accurate if nothing else. So in the season finale, the

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narrative of the entire season concludes with high stakes tension

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as the Cadets faced their ultimate test to save the Federation,

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solidifying the Cadets into a cohesive crew. Episode centers on

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this confrontation between Holly Hunter's Chancellor Nala Ake and Paul

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Giamatti's villainous Noose Braca, and as Charles intimated, Bracca stages

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a mock show trial of the Federation, accusing it of

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complacency in abandoning vulnerable worlds in the aftermath of the burn.

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Braka deploys a wall, if you will, of surrounding Omega

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forty seven mines around Federation space, which of course will

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destroy subspace if detonated. These mines act as a space

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mote of a kind and would essentially isolate the Federation

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forever and potentially destroying nearby star systems if these mines

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were to detonate. The trial takes place in the enterprise

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nodded name the Sasho Atrium on board the USS Athena,

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and it is a strategic choice by noose Braka because

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desecrates the atrium to host his show trial. He wants

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to stage the event on what he refers to as

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a gaudy treasure of the pompous Federation, and he wants

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to publicly humiliate Starfleet while broadcasting the proceedings live like

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a twenty jo almost to his potential allies across the gallery.

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The conflict is very personal because we're talking about Caleb

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Meir's mom, Anishamir, who's there, and she Titania Masslani, Let's

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not forget her. She blames Nala Ake for past family

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tragedies in her life right. The episode is exploring themes

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of accountability and whether or not the older generation, who

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we see embodied by Chancellor Ake and news Braka, can

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ever truly move past the trauma of the burn. Now

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with the rest of the ship heavily damaged, a lot

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of senior officers incapacitated. Good old Commander jet Reno, our

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favorite tig Notaro. She takes command of the Athenis Saucier

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section and organizes the Cadets into emergency roles. So with

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her on the bridge of the Sausage Session, we have Jaden,

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Sam Darren, Terarima, Caleb, Genesis, pretty much all the main

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characters of the Cadets, and they are going to need

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to overcome their inexperience and their anxiety about what could happen.

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They have to find a way to figure out can

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they neutralize the omegamize and they eventually realize that the

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doctor Robert Riccardo has been glitching crazily and saying nonsensical

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phrases over and over again, like find the glue in

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your shoe, which is actually encrypted data regarding something called

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Ruben particles that are needed to stabilize the mind, Ruben

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being the word they use to make that play on Rubicon,

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ending up with the title of the episode Rubin Cohn.

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pun if you will hear, so, just want to make

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sure that's clear. So there's a theme of teamwork and

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growth growth happening as each cadet tries to find their

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place Genesis life. Aspiring Captain finally gets to take the home,

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while Caleb Meir is able to actually finally reconcile his past, reconcile,

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I should say, with his future. It's a star fleet officer,

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and they're able to work together. And I think what

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is there's a really nice contrast about the younger folks

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working as a team very cohesively, and compare that with

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the inability of the adults, you know, na Ake and

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noos Braka to move past their past grievances that they

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had in the past. And as we moved into the

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finale of the trial that noos Braka has there, we

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start to run into the theme of justice and accountability.

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The central revelation goes on here, which is quite shocking

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because noos Braca has spent his whole life with this lie,

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believing that during the Burn, the Federation ignored his colonies

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please for help and instead launched an unpromoked missile attack

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that wiped out his people. That is his motivation, the

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grudge he's been leaning into for years. It's justified all

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of his actions right. Turns out that is absolute, complete

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and total bullshit, because the revelation is that neus Braka's father,

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not the Federation, was responsible for the instructure of their

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own colony. Chancellor Ake and Klei Meir used scientific evidence,

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thank you science, specifically the color of the atmosphere when

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the colony ignited, to prove that the explosion was caused

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by strontium, real minerable, real chemical element, by the way,

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a mineral mind there on the colony. This reveals that

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Braca's own father had indeed weaponized the strontium to attack

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a Federation supply ship slightly different than we had told

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in the past that attacked backfire and destroyed the colony

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and killed his entire family, which is a massive personal

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and historical reveal that completely dismantles Noose Braca's lifelong motivation,

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kind of leaving him with you know, psychic earthquake, if

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you will, which is a big ending to not work,

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not how he thought his trial was going to wind up.

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The outcome the cadets are successfully able to neutralize the

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minds once they figure out what the hell it is

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that the doctor is talking about. The Federation was saved,

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and the the season ends on a pretty hopeful note,

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which the cadets preparing for the next year at the Academy.

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Something really special I thought was extremely well done was

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in the end credits of this particular episode. Be sure

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to watch them if you haven't, because it's a real

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nice tribute in those finale credits, a very unique sequence

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that displays real life childhood photos of all the cast

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members as a nod I think to their characters growth

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throughout the series. I thought that was extremely well done.

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It will put a tear in your eye. Allow the

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end of Return of the King, where some similar devices

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were employed, but quite tastefully done, and I thought it

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was a really great way to wrap up this series

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and the series. This season of the series, we thought

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one more whole series season of the series left to go.

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It's hard to say when you've been comparing Rubicon and

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ruben Gon, so what are.

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You going to do? But that's kind of what we had.

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That's our recap of the episode, and we will all

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get a chance to weigh in with our numerical score

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whole numbers, please no decimals if you don't mind. At

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some point later in the episode, but first first from

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the dusty confines of his bizarre Pennsylvania hotel room with

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a thirty one led light bulb. Eric is going to

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regale us with some of the thoughts from our very

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own Facebook fans scores and reactions to this finale of

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season one. Are you there?

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Eric?

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Are there Ice officers knocking on your door trying to

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take you away?

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Things seemed to be okay. I had to step over

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this dead horse that was beaten to death, but I'm

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going to continue on now. Joe Hannigan gave it a

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solid ten. Great way to wrap it all up at

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the end of the season. I only wish there were

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more episodes. Paul Giamatti, of course, stole the show once again.

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As the doctor would say, Bravi tuti thanks. Joe Edwin

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Brown said I'd give it a nine. Jet Reno was

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the star of this episode. Loved how she kept all

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the cadets focused on the situation as if they were

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running the live version of the Kobayashi Maru. The scene

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where Reno and KiB were working on the warp drive

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and he was questioning himself, Reno talked to him like

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a concerned parent, and brought his confidence back. Just like Tilly,

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Reno has embraced the role of instructor extremely well. I

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can't disagree with anything you've said so far, Edwin. He

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also says, and most importantly, the USS Discovery made a

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cameo appearance and wasn't needed to save the universe. I

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think he means that we saw it in that the

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fleet arriving scene. I don't remember seeing it. Perhaps I'm wrong.

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Maybe one of you guys can help clear that up

470
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.960
for me. Thanks Edwin, Anthony Ross.

471
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:38.920
It didn't show during the review specifically, it was mentioned

472
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:44.839
by name. Specifically, they said, can't the Discovery jumped through

473
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:50.599
the mycilial network through the spores? An Amal Vance said no, yes.

474
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.640
I agree, different from making an appearance, but I agree.

475
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.559
Denny Ross gave it a ten. He says the pee

476
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.599
line was the best. Richard Gardner gave it a ten

477
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.119
for the finale to the debut season. It is quite

478
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.960
simply fantastic. I love TNG, but there's no escaping. A

479
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.559
lot of Season one was ropie. While there were aspects

480
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.200
of this first season I didn't get. That's more to

481
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.720
do with me being an old being old poor than

482
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.319
a poor storytelling. Over All, the effects, the sets, the

483
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.799
production blew me away. Special mention to Paul Giamati. He

484
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:31.160
stole every scene he was in. What a performance. Leslie

485
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:36.039
Jones also gave it a ten. As a soon to

486
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:37.960
be seventy year old who was there for the first

487
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:42.160
run of tostng Ds nine and Voyager. I felt that

488
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.799
this series's first run had its ups and downs, like

489
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.240
all of its predecessors did. However, I think it has

490
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.799
been a spirited effort and showed a willingness to reflect

491
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.799
our society today, just as Gene Roddenberry attempted to do

492
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.799
in the nineteen sixties. Really, that's what he was doing.

493
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:05.279
I look forward to the next series. Also, tig Nataro

494
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.319
was a standout in this episode. Thank you so much, Leslie.

495
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.960
Bruce Reid said, wait, I have to go pee ten.

496
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:16.400
Colleen Thompson also gave it a ten. There's a real

497
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.799
theme here people. It was well paced and acted. Reno

498
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:23.920
was unexpectedly great in this with the cadets. I totally

499
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.519
expected it, but I get what you're saying. I still

500
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.799
think the idea of mining Federation space like that is

501
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:34.279
wildly implausible. Well, David agrees there and far over the top.

502
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.759
Not terribly sophisticated Baddie to pull off, but it was entertained.

503
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.160
But I was entertained enough to suspend disbelief and enjoy

504
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.200
the ride. Thanks Colleen. Margaret Gallant also gave it a ten.

505
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.720
Brilliant how they made the protagonist just a flawed, just

506
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.559
a touch flawed in her past twices, and the antagonist

507
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.559
a touch broken in his childhood. Both techniques draw the

508
00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:01.720
audience in make the characters relatable. Thanks Margaret. Anne McMillan

509
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:03.920
gave it a ten. It was great. I love the

510
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.000
way Laura and Reno awkwardly held hands as they walked

511
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.759
through the atrium at the end. It was as if

512
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.160
Laura wasn't even considering it, but Reno kept reaching for her,

513
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:16.599
wanting to take the relationship more public. It made me smile.

514
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:21.759
Thanks Anne. Judy Elliott said absolutely big fan of Jet Reno.

515
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.720
I'd give it a ten. I think the imagination of

516
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.640
the writers is spot on. I'm seventy three been with

517
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.319
Star Trek from the very beginning. When you watch some

518
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:34.680
of the original episodes and the monsters look like rubber dinosaurs,

519
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.400
it was a bit dorky. Compared to the light effects

520
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.000
of today's stories. I was twelve and Star Trek ruled.

521
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.640
I even had my hair cut like Spock when I

522
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.279
was fourteen. Oh, I'd love to see a picture of that.

523
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:50.039
Judy Spot couldn't have eaten crackers in my bed back

524
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:54.480
then looking forward to more. Ten exclamation point, Judy, that

525
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:55.160
was a great review.

526
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:55.480
Thank you.

527
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.119
Linda. Sunboard gave it a nine point five, very much

528
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.200
enjoyed andank you for season two to start, then hoping

529
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:06.279
it'll be season three and beyond. Sam Bayless Vance gave

530
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.880
it a ten. It's so ruled, I cannot wait for

531
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.960
more to come back. For it to come back, excuse me.

532
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.599
The only thing that's keeping me sane is knowing that

533
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.519
the cast and crew, especially the ones new to the industry,

534
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.240
are undergoing huge life changes. They need some time, and

535
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:25.519
Trek needs time to get season two through post and

536
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.799
into the can so we can love the hell out

537
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:33.559
of it. SFA was mind blowing. Mikey Nichol Smith said

538
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.960
it's nice to see people who actually love Star Trek

539
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.000
posting rather than folks who haven't seen it posting negative

540
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.559
stuff about it. It's the finale. If you hate it,

541
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.039
Why are you wasting ten hours of your life on it?

542
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.960
I think it was a solid eight. It would have

543
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.640
been a nine if we had seen the doctor become

544
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:53.160
the emergency Command hologram. Oh, Mikey, that would have been cool.

545
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.200
Carrie King gave it a ten. This episode really reminded

546
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.119
me of the Kobayashi Maru test, except it was in

547
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.720
a simulation. The tension was incredibly high, and Paul Giamatti's

548
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.720
portrayal of news Braka was fantastic. What a great way

549
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.480
to end the season. Debra l Platt gave it a

550
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.480
ten and an extra two thumbs up for the end credits.

551
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.920
Loved it. Lots of exclamation points and hearts in Debra's post.

552
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:22.000
Thanks Debor. Wanja Schultz give it a nine. I have

553
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:27.319
fun with Starfleet Academy. Gabrielle Nancy Henderson gave it a ten.

554
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.960
Loved it. I'm a big time trekky since it first

555
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.680
aired many many years ago. Brian Wong said I'd give

556
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.920
it a nine point five, so there's room to make

557
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.599
it more awesome. Just reading through this, I think he

558
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:43.319
means the comments on our page. It looks like many

559
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.079
other people loved it as much as I did. Why

560
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.640
are there so many haters out there? I'm not understanding them?

561
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.119
Thanks Brian, We're going to talk about that next week.

562
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.839
Seanetta Broughton gave it a ten. Loved it. It was

563
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.759
relatable to younger viewers, which is what we need. Nala,

564
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.559
Jet and Lura are totally the teachers I would want.

565
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.960
Please please bring me third and fourth seasons. Thanks Shanetta.

566
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.719
Ellis Coombs gave it an eleven, which we of course

567
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.800
have to average to ten. It was awesome. I totally

568
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.760
wasn't expecting this level of action from this series over

569
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.920
the top. Lots of clapping hands from Ellis that gives

570
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.239
us a combined fan score this week of nine point four.

571
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:29.199
So there you have it.

572
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:35.400
Very very respectable, very respectable. So the would you like

573
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.679
to dive in and get us started this week since

574
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:38.199
we missed you?

575
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.599
Yes, this was I was blown away by this episode.

576
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.960
I thought, let's see which one was at number eight

577
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:53.400
was epic, but this one even more so. I'm trying

578
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:57.039
to remember how I described Paul Giamatti's acting. I think

579
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.559
I said something to the effect that Paul Gama chewed

580
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.400
the scenery in only the way that Paul Giamatti could

581
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.360
and he did not disappoint this time.

582
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:09.519
He was just.

583
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:18.000
Absolutely fantastically evil. The you know there Paul was talking

584
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.519
about the different themes. You know, people are reflecting on

585
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.920
their past selves. I mean that that speech that Caleb

586
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:30.440
gave towards the end was fantastic. And uh, there's also

587
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:37.119
the theme of forgiveness because his mother Anisha realized because

588
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:42.519
remember when she said that she and Nala we're talking,

589
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.119
and Nala knew how much that she hated her for

590
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.519
separating her and her son, and she said more than

591
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.960
you will ever know. But by the end she was

592
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:58.679
able to to forgive her. So that was really really deep.

593
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.440
The one thing that you know, the effects I was

594
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:10.360
going to say, the effects were just absolutely spectacular. Pardon me,

595
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:15.519
excuse me, Hopefully I don't lose my voice. The one

596
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.320
thing that really popped out at me. Again, towards the end,

597
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:25.800
there were a couple things. But when Nala has a chance,

598
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:30.639
you know, when she's been proclaimed guilty and she asks everybody,

599
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.559
is this really the person you want to follow into

600
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:38.880
the future. An angry child with his finger on the trigger.

601
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:45.079
His entire world, his entire worldview is based on a

602
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.039
lie and it's like, wow, that just absolutely hit. And

603
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:55.519
speaking of hitting, when they're taking him away and first

604
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:00.519
Anisha punches him and then Nana punches him. Wanted him.

605
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.800
I almost half expected him to say Picard never punched me,

606
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:09.199
but you know, of course, so that was really good.

607
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.320
And then the end credits, I love those with all

608
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.760
the childhood photos, and I will have to say, speaking

609
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.599
again about Paul Giamatti, I think his picture as a

610
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:24.719
child was the most recognizable because he's making a face,

611
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.800
he's sticking out his tongue, and again he's he's apparently

612
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.559
been Paul Giamatti his whole life as best as he

613
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.280
can be. So I will definitely give this one a

614
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:40.079
solid ten. So there you go.

615
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:41.199
Yeah, you know, it.

616
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.800
Reminded me an awful lot of Star Trek six. I

617
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.480
got that Star Trek six feel to it.

618
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.000
Not Star Trek five.

619
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.480
No, not Star Trek five this time. Okay, but when

620
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:54.360
the signatures were.

621
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:58.639
Going, oh yeah, yeah, when they got at the very end, yeah.

622
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.239
You know the signatures, and it just had that Star

623
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:03.440
Trek six field.

624
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:03.719
Yeah.

625
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:04.679
Oh.

626
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.360
I didn't realize just how significant that would end up

627
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.159
being just a few short weeks later, but now.

628
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.920
Oh, I forgot to I forgot to add I am

629
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:21.639
a I am now a solid Take Nataro a k

630
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:26.519
jet Reno fan, because she is just absolutely wonderful. The

631
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:29.119
uh there was one line where she said something to

632
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.480
the effect that, well, we're either going to succeed or

633
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:34.599
we're going to die, you know, depending on how the

634
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.880
cadets figured things out. So that was that was the

635
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:44.320
ultimate Kobayashi Maru that nobody could uh you know, change

636
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:49.519
the outcome and fake their way out of So. But yeah,

637
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.440
take Nataro. I tell you what she's She's awesome.

638
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:55.440
Yeah.

639
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.079
I thought she stole the show. I thought she was

640
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:00.679
I'd love to get her on the pod. Oh yeah,

641
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:01.719
I'm still trying.

642
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:02.320
Oh my gosh.

643
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:03.880
Yeah.

644
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.079
She has some of the best lines in this episode,

645
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.280
like when she's talking to Kaleb and she says, we

646
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.639
learn more from the things we do wrong than the

647
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:18.639
things we do right. Uh, show me some streaky lines,

648
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.920
I can't she she had a lot of like wharf lines,

649
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:27.280
things like you know, Warf would have said on TG.

650
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.079
She was and her dead Pam delivery is just the best.

651
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:31.880
The way she's just so dead Pam.

652
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.079
Everything she says is just straight down the line you

653
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:41.079
know Spectaculor and the doctor glue in the shoe that

654
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:42.320
reminded me of Dharmat.

655
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.920
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, that's what I wanted to say too, Yeah,

656
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.639
that Darmac and Chalade. But he had gotten he had

657
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:53.920
gone wonky because he used his that mobile emitter to

658
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:59.840
fake the saucer being blown up. And that's that's what

659
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.800
made him all wonky. And the thing with Sam, how

660
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.480
she calls him Dad, I mean, if that doesn't tug

661
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.239
at your heart strings, then I don't know what does

662
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.639
and how because he had saved her before and that

663
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.760
was her turn to try to help him, so that

664
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.320
that was really something very very special. All right, I'm

665
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:21.079
going to shut up now.

666
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:26.519
Yeah, yeah, So who wants to go in here? Why

667
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.320
don't we let David jump in here next. I'm very

668
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:33.519
curious with everything that's gone on these last couple of days.

669
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:36.360
I'm dying to hear what David has to say.

670
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:44.760
All right, Well, so, yeah, this particular episode, last week's

671
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:50.480
footpart was I would get into it just fine until

672
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.559
that whole walk thing came up, the whole bubble of

673
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.360
mind and everything, and all of a sudden, it was

674
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.960
just like the second part they just started getting into

675
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.320
it in a little bit more science you about it,

676
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:06.320
and I'm like, I don't know. For some reason, it

677
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:09.360
just took me out of the mood. I guess you

678
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.719
could say. I do have to agree with uh, the

679
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.320
the the whole Geomotti acting.

680
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:17.880
Uh.

681
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.639
He did a really good job playing the bad guy, uh,

682
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:28.880
the villain of this series. He uh, him sticking his

683
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.679
tongue out and everything like that really did reflect what

684
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:33.599
he used to do, I guess for his little kid.

685
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:41.840
As we mentioned that whole, I have to admit that

686
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:48.280
the ending of the credits was like watching a family

687
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:51.639
go by, and it was just like you get to

688
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:56.119
see what they were like when they were young, until

689
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.480
the journey that they got to the very end there.

690
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.920
It was just it was it was touching. It was

691
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.519
actually kind of fun to watch seeing all those past

692
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:05.599
photos and everything.

693
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:06.039
And so.

694
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:13.119
To me, this episode, for some odd reason, I felt

695
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:19.119
very It felt very long. For some reason, I know

696
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:21.320
that it was more than an hour. I think their

697
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.320
time run was like an hour or seven minutes, but

698
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.840
to me, this episode just seemed a little bit slow

699
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:34.559
in a sense as well. The whole sausage section blown up.

700
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.199
I thought that was a really cool idea to finally

701
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:46.840
have an idea of using holograms to twick centuries the

702
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:51.239
ship centuries, I guess you could say. And to me

703
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.760
this episode though, there's just still something about it, I

704
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:58.719
just can't seem to put my finger on And to me,

705
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:05.039
I'm just like, ah, yeah, I don't want to give

706
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.760
it too hot. LOVI score, because to be honest, I'm

707
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:11.280
still rooting for the series. I'm waiting to see what

708
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:15.639
season two is going to be like because I do

709
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.440
want to love the characters. I do want to get

710
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.440
in touch with like what they're going through and everything.

711
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:27.320
But for some odd reason, it's the story plot or something.

712
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.880
I don't know what it is. It's just I think

713
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.280
we discussed it last week where it just seems like

714
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.599
a lot of the things that they went through, they

715
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:40.599
didn't really quite explain very well that Jim and a

716
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.880
clean on woman thought something.

717
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.000
And so to me, I'm just like, so the series

718
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:48.800
would have been better had they given you more information

719
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:50.880
about her. I'm sorry I had to break in because I'm.

720
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:51.480
Just like, no, no, not.

721
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.840
Not just her, I'm talking about like just in general,

722
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:58.840
like a lot of different things throughout the different episodes

723
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:03.920
that we've seen, Like, how the heck did they get

724
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.400
all those minds? I mean we talked about that last week,

725
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.039
of course, but to me, it just seemed a little

726
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.559
the story plot just seemed to go flat to me

727
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.440
for some reason. And I was really excited about that

728
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.960
Jim and character, but they didn't really put too much

729
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.000
thought into it as something I don't know, similar to

730
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.159
Guynan went in the Card series, the whole Q and

731
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.599
Guynan experience where they talked about it back in TNG,

732
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:32.440
and it was like, all of a sudden they gave

733
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.599
us a little bit of that stuff and Card it

734
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.960
was just like that was it. That was the reason

735
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.840
why Q and Guynan were like great enemies.

736
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:41.039
You know.

737
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:44.360
It was just like to me it felt like that

738
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:48.360
because it was like a I was so hyped up

739
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:49.719
for it and all of a sudden, it just like

740
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.079
it just fell over for me, and the story plot

741
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:57.199
just didn't make sense. I mean, this whole news thing

742
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.280
that like we see here on the screen here, I

743
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:04.199
don't know, the trial the streamed a little flat. I

744
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.440
don't know why. I mean, it's almost like they're copying

745
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.519
flow point. So the whole Q thing was just like, yeah,

746
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.719
it would have been nice if don John Delanchley would

747
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:16.320
have came in.

748
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.119
But to me, I was just like.

749
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:22.440
I was hoping for more. I guess maybe that's what

750
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.760
it is, but to me, it just fell flat. So

751
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.519
to me, I'm gonna give this episode a five.

752
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.840
Yeah, guys, well.

753
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:38.519
Five five Speezza two last week, that's that's cool. So

754
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.559
here we are on the screen, we see the news,

755
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.159
and this is what I loved about this episode. Did

756
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:47.880
anyone else get the feel that this was, like, uh,

757
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.039
a total reflection of what's going on right now in

758
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.280
the United States? Did you guys not feel that this

759
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.119
was Trump right here on the show, finger on the trigger.

760
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:02.760
He's gonna everybody, and you know, the whole thing just

761
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:07.079
felt to me like a warning to two people of

762
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.039
you know, this is what this is what we're heading

763
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:11.320
towards if we're not careful.

764
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:13.920
Well, that's what Star Trek has, that's what Yeah, that's

765
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.079
what Star Trek has done over the years that you know,

766
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:21.000
reflecting current events that are happening, you know, starting with

767
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:27.679
the original series. So but yeah, exactly, yeah, that's what

768
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.119
I thought as I was as I was watching, especially

769
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.440
the anger, the angry child with his finger on the trigger.

770
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.719
Finger on the trigger exactly. That's the way I you know,

771
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.920
I was watching it, so you know there was that

772
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.199
angle too. And Star Trek always does the best when

773
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.480
it's reflecting what's going on. And some people don't like

774
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:53.239
the reflection that they see, so they don't like the reflection.

775
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:56.440
They're going to attack it or ignore it, and uh,

776
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:01.400
you know we're seeing that play out right now. So yeah,

777
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:03.559
so yeah, I loved it. I thought it was great.

778
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:07.480
Jet Reno stole the show. Jaden's when he's doing his

779
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:09.800
doctor thing down there and he helps him figure out

780
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.039
what the glue and the shoe meant. I really liked that.

781
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:18.079
I like the doctor saving everybody with the hologram. I like, how.

782
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:23.039
You know Oka okay, you know, gave him the code

783
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.039
and jet Reno's like what is that? He tells her,

784
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:29.679
you know. And the crew, my god, the crew coming together.

785
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:31.639
You guys, remember the last time we saw the crew

786
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.159
on the bridge of the ship trying to do a simulation,

787
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.960
they killed everybody. They were arguing they couldn't get along,

788
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:39.079
they couldn't get anything right.

789
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:40.719
Well, not this time.

790
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.079
This time, they jelled like the crew that they're training

791
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:45.920
to be and to me, that's what the whole show

792
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.559
is about. We take a bunch of kids and experienced

793
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.000
fighting with each other, not used to each other, and

794
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.880
by the end, you know, they're a well oiled machine.

795
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.519
They're working together, they're doing what they do best, they're

796
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.119
using their training and they're getting the job done and

797
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:04.519
saving the day. And that is what it's all about.

798
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:08.320
We get to see it come to fruition at the end,

799
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.320
and I love these characters.

800
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:19.719
So this episode aired prior to the bad news.

801
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.239
That we all received. All the reviews that we read

802
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.559
were prior to the bad news that we received. And

803
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:29.199
I just watched the episode, you know, about twenty minutes ago,

804
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:33.519
and watching that episode right now, knowing what I know

805
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.679
right now, it felt like an end to me. I mean,

806
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:40.239
if season one was the end of Starfleet Academy, it

807
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.000
felt like an end to me. They ended it very

808
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.119
very well, but alas we will get a second season,

809
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.280
I can't say I think I got a peek. Wait,

810
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.280
I'll be right back. There was just there were so

811
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:59.599
many moments in this that I liked. We touched on

812
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.519
a lot of them, most of them involved jet Reno

813
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:07.320
her inspirational speeches Sam with the doctor as her father.

814
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:14.840
You know, Terema and Caleb Uh finally coming to terms

815
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:19.320
with each other. Was was touching and well done using

816
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.719
her in Zodi senses. I don't know what else you

817
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:28.639
want to call it. To locate Caleb's mother was very

818
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.119
similar to what they did in Insurrection when they tried

819
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:35.159
to locate the cloaked scimitar with Dianna Troy. So that

820
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.239
was that was a neat kind of callback. So I'm

821
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:40.599
I got to give this one a ten as well,

822
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.199
or ah, wait for Paul, I'll give it a nine

823
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:50.280
point nine. So because Paul loves the decimals, he loves it.

824
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:53.480
So yeah, I'll go with a nine point nine. And

825
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:55.000
I think I'll turn it over to Charles.

826
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:03.119
Okay, thank you uncle, So I can switch over to

827
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:07.719
my at that page, this page, and I will copy

828
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:20.199
something over to my crew. Okay, it won't copy, all right.

829
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:24.119
I mentioned saying I was gonna hold off a comment

830
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:31.239
about a quote about Hitchhiker's Guide, and I'm sure Eric

831
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:34.199
shake his head, was like, how'd you get that? And

832
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:39.199
I found somebody with this quote. I found something interesting

833
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:46.599
the optimical Ruben particle concentrate is sixty seven fifty six percent.

834
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:50.679
You divide this number by the golden ratio, which is

835
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.320
one thy six hundred and eighteen, you get forty two.

836
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.400
That's the answer the ultimate question of life, the universe

837
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:04.119
and everything. And I thought it, Okay, that was interesting.

838
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:10.159
Then when I saw Sam putting her hands up trying

839
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:14.400
to get this thing to set. What was the first

840
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:20.360
number that showed up? Forty two? It's like, wow, that

841
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:26.159
was what I call a great deep reference to Star Trek.

842
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:32.320
It's like, okay, I think we got some definite sci

843
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.639
fi fan in that writer's room. Uh, let's look at

844
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.760
the opener. We didn't have the usual opener this time.

845
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.840
We got in the scene and all of a sudden

846
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.320
we roll the credit roll the titles saying Starfleet Academy,

847
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.239
and we moved on. We didn't have a center opener either,

848
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:58.840
so that made us realize the difference. This episode was different.

849
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.320
I'm trying to really to say what things to say

850
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:11.039
about this episode that people have said already a great episode.

851
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:16.840
I loved the fact that they took a key off

852
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.440
the bridge and had Jet Reno in charge. We got

853
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:28.039
a lot more Reno in there instead, which I said,

854
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:32.000
we got to see a lot of her personality, and

855
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:39.239
I seriously do enjoy that personality of how how much

856
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:42.519
of a straight person she is, and she gives it

857
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:46.679
to you. She's not gonna give you a soft punch.

858
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:51.239
She's gonna give you this whole truth and very serious,

859
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:58.039
and it's like, Okay, that's that's good. As for David's

860
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:01.079
how they got all these minds out there, I'm sure

861
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.679
that NUS had a plan with a lot of other

862
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.960
people sit there and get these mines out there, and

863
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:15.400
I'm sure there may have been a cloaking field around

864
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:18.840
many of them, or they launched to a spot and

865
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:22.760
they'd launch out others as the first one set off,

866
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.559
because we noticed where they came out slowly and started

867
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:32.480
peering and surrounded the Alpha Quadrant and all the planets

868
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:38.239
within Starfleet. But I'm sure he's got some pretty good

869
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:41.400
tech that he could use to hide these things so

870
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:44.960
they couldn't be seen until he was ready to launch him.

871
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:51.079
I'm sure there's plenty of thirty to two second century

872
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:53.480
techniques they could use in there.

873
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.920
I like the deal where.

874
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.360
And Karina Terina used he went, they're talking about forgiveness.

875
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:11.880
Look at Caleb's attempt to give her, trying to trying

876
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:16.320
to apologize and forgive her and to realize how special

877
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:20.199
she is, and maybe she used her ability and his

878
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.760
connection to find his mom. I think that was a

879
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:35.719
creative method to bringing to doing that. How didver they

880
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.079
come up with more than everybody else's kind of said?

881
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.639
I was gonna go with a nine point five, but

882
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:47.800
since David pushed it down, I'll push mine up to

883
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:48.239
a ten.

884
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:53.679
All right, I ten.

885
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:56.760
So let's let Paul jump in, because Paul has to

886
00:54:56.840 --> 00:55:00.159
be running early. So let's give Paul a chan to

887
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:01.199
be heard before we ask.

888
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:04.559
Thanks. Yeah, I'm already, you know, to my recap earlier.

889
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:06.079
I think that's good. I just added a couple of

890
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.840
extra things. I think this is a nice way to

891
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.559
end the season. I think I was not a big

892
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:18.519
fan of the television device that we see like it's

893
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:23.639
because it's basically we're still communicating like CNN communicates centuries later,

894
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:26.639
and it just was too contemporary for me. It really

895
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:28.880
kind of actually took me out of the out of

896
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.079
the immediacy of the show. So, I mean, while it

897
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:34.880
may have really reflected contemporary events that just happened to

898
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.880
be going on right now, accidentally, because this show was

899
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:44.119
written and directed many years earlier. But that was it's

900
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.480
just too hokey of a gimmick to me, and we've

901
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:49.840
seen that in like every TV show since the seventies,

902
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:52.360
so it's like, something different, please in my science fiction

903
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:56.039
would be great. Also, I was very distracted by the

904
00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:02.400
crazy bunting that they put up around the the trial room.

905
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:04.679
It's like somebody said, hey, quick, go make what looks

906
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:09.280
like futuristic graffiti on these banners, right, like your futuristic protester.

907
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:13.039
That was really normally start Trek is so great with

908
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:17.000
this production design, and this was just like really gotten

909
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:18.920
the way of things for me. So some manor of

910
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.000
quibbles there for most part, but I thought this was

911
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.360
generally pretty good. It was a little long winded in

912
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:27.679
places for me, though, I like. I like it when

913
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.400
you maybe feel frustrated with certain parts of an episode,

914
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:33.559
but then it gets redeemed at the end, right. And

915
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:37.599
the reveal about news Brocket was great. I thought that

916
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:42.320
was really terrific. Basically, his entire premise that he'd based

917
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.960
his life on was just complete and utter nonsense, and

918
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.960
it was a lie. We don't see that happening anywhere

919
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:51.559
in reality right now, do we? But but yeah, it's

920
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.039
I thought that was a good come upance for him, right,

921
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:57.800
rather than like, you know, some ridiculous nonsense where he's

922
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.199
like goes back to prison or you know, you know

923
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:03.280
it gets killed in a big fight or whatever. I mean,

924
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:05.599
it's been. They've been pretty clear that he's done and

925
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.880
he's not part of season two at all from what

926
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.000
I've understood. So you know, we can talk about that

927
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.760
next week perhaps if we want to, but he's pretty

928
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:17.519
much done as a character. So this is this our

929
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.039
concludes with this episode. I thought there was a good chance, though,

930
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.400
for most of the cadets to really shine, and for

931
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.400
characters that that we've come to really appreciate, like n

932
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:32.119
Lake gets some big triumphant moment in the trial. I

933
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:34.480
do feel that for me and the kind of acting

934
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.119
I enjoy, I think Paul Giamatti really kind of was

935
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:39.159
a little over the top in this series. Frankly, I

936
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.599
think a little bit more measured, controlled performance. I appreciate

937
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:46.800
more than the constant scenery chewing and history onics which

938
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:49.039
is just too you know, play of the cheap seats

939
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.400
is fine. Clearly it worked because people keep commenting about

940
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:55.519
how much they loved his performance. But it's just like,

941
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.519
modulate it maybe a little bit, you know, not everything

942
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.400
has to be turned up to eleven. But I still

943
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.840
think this was a really excellent episode. Is I myself

944
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:10.360
saved tens for like classic episodes where I feel like they,

945
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:13.320
you know, will stand the test of time. This one

946
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.239
was not, so I would I would at the end

947
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:18.079
of the day, I think it's a nine is appropriate

948
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:20.559
for this. I think it really sums up what they

949
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.159
were trying to do this whole season, which a finale

950
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.840
should do. I don't think it's classic television by any

951
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:29.039
stretch of the imagination, but a really solid nine, and

952
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:33.440
it left me with great affection for these characters, anxious

953
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:37.440
to see what they do to hopefully bump the storytelling

954
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.760
up a little bit higher in the second season. And

955
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.119
they certainly have got a great crew to work with

956
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:47.559
phenomenal performers here. I'm excited to your casting news and

957
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:51.239
find out who's playing particular roles in the second season

958
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:52.519
and see where they go from there. So I think

959
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.480
it nine is appropriate. I'm well done, feel good about

960
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.039
what you DIDs and crew.

961
00:58:57.960 --> 00:58:58.719
On this show.

962
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.000
More talking about in terms of the future of the show,

963
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:04.039
it sounds like, well, probably won't get you a lot

964
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:07.039
of it this week, though we may touch on a

965
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.000
bit so at nine for me, good work, Starfleet Academy.

966
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:12.519
Well I guess now we're waiting to see when the

967
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:16.000
next drop is for Strange New Worlds. When do we

968
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.800
get season four? Probably sometime as we move into summer,

969
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:20.760
would be my guest.

970
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:24.719
So there we go. But yeah, nice work. That's it

971
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:30.840
for me, all right, Eric, you get to krebrus body

972
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:31.960
all right.

973
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:38.800
Yeah, thanks Gang, great reviews. I you know, I think

974
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:42.400
from day one, Starfleet Academy has really hit me in

975
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:48.480
my fields. I've loved this show. I think because they

976
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.679
take these these younger folks, right and they kind of

977
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:56.679
show how they're growing into adults and how they're growing

978
00:59:56.800 --> 01:00:00.639
into responsibility. And specifically with Caleb, how you know, he's

979
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:04.159
literally transforming from a kid who only knows how to

980
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:07.320
survive to a kid who really, at the end here

981
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:13.360
is defending himself and Starfleet to his mother, whom he's

982
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:18.519
spent his entire life looking for. So the whole concept

983
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:25.320
of showing growth, showing change, seeing how people can kind

984
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.320
of have one idea their whole life that turns out

985
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.280
to not be true, and once they're able to kind

986
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:33.119
of make it over that hump, they can really move

987
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:34.960
on and become the people that they were meant to be.

988
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.599
And I think this finale really kind of, you know,

989
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:42.440
puts a nice little semi colon, I'll say, just because

990
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.719
season two is yet to come, but it really kind

991
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:48.760
of punctuates that feeling. So right from the beginning of

992
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:53.440
this episode, we get the intense recap of what has

993
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:56.599
happened up to this point, which I appreciated because perhaps

994
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.400
it's been a week or two since you've seen the episode.

995
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.599
We kind of start getting into that opening scene where

996
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.159
the kids go into the air lock and and that

997
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:08.800
sort of stuff. And I, you know, I can't disagree

998
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:13.039
with Paul when he when he says that Giamatti was

999
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:16.480
kind of on eleven the entire time. It would have

1000
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:19.840
been nice to see a little bit more variation in

1001
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.719
his performance, to see him maybe have a moment of

1002
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:27.880
self reflection at some point, to show maybe even a

1003
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.119
little character growth for him too. I mean, he can

1004
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:31.880
still go to way to prison at the end, but

1005
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.000
he just kind of at the end of the series,

1006
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:36.960
I kept waiting for something to happen, and because it

1007
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.360
never happened, my impression of him at the end was

1008
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.480
that he was a mustache twirling villain.

1009
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:41.960
Right.

1010
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:46.320
He's a great actor, no question, and he does intense

1011
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:49.639
really really well, and I actually love the news Brocket character.

1012
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:51.760
I just wish that he had kind of backed off

1013
01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:57.760
of him just a little bit. Conversely, I think Ake

1014
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:01.559
kept keeps getting better, Like she was unbelievable in this

1015
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:06.119
episode when the trial's occurring and there's kind of the

1016
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:11.000
quid pro quo and she see Paul I would I

1017
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:14.000
would disagree with you on the media thing that you said,

1018
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.960
And it's only because the way this episode was written,

1019
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:19.800
it was necessary that the media thing be a part

1020
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.199
of it so that the entire galaxy is watching this

1021
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.679
as it's happening, because it gives her the opportunity to

1022
01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:31.239
then use that against Braka and actually bring truth and

1023
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:34.519
science and things like that into the cult of personality

1024
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:37.800
that he constantly tries to cultivate. In this episode, right,

1025
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.920
he says things like I'm the only thing between you

1026
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:45.639
and a federation that doesn't care, and you know, things

1027
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:48.559
like that, and and the truth is that you know,

1028
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:52.760
he's not really their savior, right, And it is the

1029
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:56.800
fact that it's a live on trial. The whole galaxy

1030
01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:58.960
can see it, and Ake is able to manipulate that

1031
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:03.840
kind of you the propaganda against the propagandist that I

1032
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:07.079
thought was really clever, So I like that part of it.

1033
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:10.400
I will say there are many many references, and this

1034
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:12.639
has been a problem with Starfleet Academy since the beginning.

1035
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.039
Way too many modern references. I mean, noose Braka, this

1036
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:19.960
what is he Tellwright Kling on something else? Guy makes

1037
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:24.920
references to Lazarus, which is like a niche character in

1038
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.519
a niche religion, on a niche planet in a giant

1039
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.559
galaxy like it. It makes absolutely no sense that he

1040
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:35.320
would bring Lazarus into any discussion with anybody. So I

1041
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.360
think the writers kind of miss a few things on that.

1042
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.280
There's also discussion. I think he says it a few times.

1043
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:43.960
He's like, we need to build a world, and I

1044
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.280
think to myself, dude, you're not even on a planet.

1045
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:48.199
You need to build a galaxy. Why are you even

1046
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:50.719
saying world? Like I think, in my mind's eye am

1047
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.599
trying to go to Earth. But then I'm realizing that

1048
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:54.480
they're on a spaceship and they're really out there. So

1049
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:57.440
just a few little tiki taggy things like that that

1050
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.800
kind of brought me out of it, the modern references.

1051
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:06.000
So trial was my absolute favorite part. As I said,

1052
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:09.639
when Caleb shows up at the end and defends the

1053
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.599
Federation to his mother and that's kind of what allows

1054
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.519
his mother to move past her hate and that sort

1055
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:19.840
of stuff. Fantastic loved it. I did like that we

1056
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:23.880
finally got the Broncus story because up until this point,

1057
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:28.559
I don't think we'd had a good motivation for his hatred,

1058
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:33.840
you know, and and in a lot of ways, I

1059
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:37.039
think his hatred of the Federation was justified. I mean,

1060
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:39.039
if you think about if you kind of translate this

1061
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:43.039
to like modern context, right when when people are flying

1062
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:48.599
overhead and some bad stuff happens, you may make assumptions

1063
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:51.039
that they're the ones causing it, and that's just based

1064
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.920
on lack of information, right, So was it wrong for

1065
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:57.599
him to hold on to that feeling his entire life

1066
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.039
and you know, do all of that bad stuff because

1067
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:01.199
of that?

1068
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:02.079
Yeah?

1069
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:05.639
Absolutely, So he didn't you know, take any opportunities for

1070
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:07.719
personal growth or to find out what really happened or

1071
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:10.440
anything like that. He just let his hate fuel him.

1072
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.039
And I don't remember who says that during the show,

1073
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:17.480
but there is there is a line about kind of,

1074
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:21.760
you know, hate being the thing from from which you

1075
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:27.000
draw all of your energy, and it's, oh, yeah, your

1076
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:29.199
hate will set you free. I think is you know,

1077
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:31.760
people believe that your hate will set you free. There's

1078
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:33.760
so oh it's it's okay, that's who it is. That's right,

1079
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:36.079
she says, she's got that speech at the end. There's

1080
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:40.320
so much anger in the universe, you know, people believe

1081
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:43.079
your hate will set you free. All that kind of stuff.

1082
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:48.440
That just resonated so hard with me that that I

1083
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:50.440
almost shed a tear. I mean like literally it was.

1084
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:52.880
It was it was kind of like, oh, I get it, man.

1085
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:55.039
There's a lot of hate going on right now, and

1086
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.159
people are dwelling and living in their hate and trying

1087
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:02.519
to like make that the way that the world should be.

1088
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:08.800
I don't appreciate that at all. Okay, trials, that's kind

1089
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:10.760
of my thoughts on the trial. One other little tiki

1090
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.320
taki thing I'll just say is that there's too much

1091
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.239
fire in Starfleet Academy, just like there was too much

1092
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:18.719
fire in Discovery. You remember when every time something would

1093
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.800
happen on Discovery's bridge, it would light like eight fires

1094
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:25.639
and for some reason, the ship would never put them out. Well, literally,

1095
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:27.599
the whole time the kids are trying to fix the bridge,

1096
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.119
parts of the bridge are on fire. That pulled me

1097
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:34.079
out of the moment, like, no ship would not have

1098
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:42.079
a fire suppression system to put out the fires. Oh yeah, whatever, Okay,

1099
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.199
let's talk about Karima and Caleb a little. Specifically, Tarima

1100
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:47.800
lots of really cool stuff with her. You know, she

1101
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.840
gets her inhibitor blown up, we all start thinking, oh yeah,

1102
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.119
this is this is where she's gonna throw down. She's

1103
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:54.880
gonna use those powers, and in fact, that is what

1104
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:58.840
ends up happening, which I thought was fantastic because not

1105
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:00.800
only do you kind of get to see her sort

1106
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.280
of power level and her own growth, her growth was

1107
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:07.360
actually supported by Caleb. She would not have been able

1108
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:10.920
to grow into a person who trusted herself unless Caleb

1109
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.119
was there to let her know that he trusted her.

1110
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:14.599
Right.

1111
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:18.599
So it's like, individually we can't do things, but as

1112
01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:21.280
soon as we put ourselves together, we have more power

1113
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:24.000
than we had as individuals. If that's not a Star

1114
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:27.599
Trek message. I don't know what is. I just thought

1115
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:31.679
that was fantastic. Let's see a couple other things. Everybody

1116
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:34.519
loves Jet. Jet was great. I loved all her funky lines.

1117
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:38.599
She was just hilarious to listen to. The pretty Streaks

1118
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:42.800
of Light really cracked me up. And I think it

1119
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:45.320
was v who already brought up the the you know,

1120
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:47.679
is this the person you want to follow into the

1121
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:50.320
future with his finger on the button? That line was

1122
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:53.719
another one that just hit me really hard. So so

1123
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:57.079
just I really appreciate what Starfree Academy did this season.

1124
01:07:57.159 --> 01:07:59.239
I feel like we saw a lot of character growth

1125
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:02.159
in a lot of different characters, specifically Caleb. Like he

1126
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.320
was the one who you know, started the series and

1127
01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:06.639
kind of ended or started the season, kind of ended

1128
01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:09.159
the season. You see him as a child. Now he's

1129
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:13.760
you know, discussing his future and how he's going to

1130
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.279
go spend the summer with his mom looking at cool stuff,

1131
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:17.640
but then he's going to come back to school in

1132
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:22.439
the fall. Just absolutely adorable. So a really different kind

1133
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:26.479
of Star Trek that was overall really optimistic, had a

1134
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:29.600
lot of really good character growth. A few problems in

1135
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:33.039
the writing room here and there that I think we've

1136
01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:36.479
all talked about a little bit. So I'll just say

1137
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:40.520
that overall, I really liked this this episode. It also

1138
01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:44.439
was not a ten for me. There were enough problems

1139
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:48.640
and enough kind of well maybe too much scenery chewing

1140
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:51.920
for me to really give it. Then I was originally

1141
01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:56.199
going to give it an eight. I kind of still

1142
01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:57.479
want to go there, but I kind of want to

1143
01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:59.600
bump it up to an eight five just because of

1144
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:02.159
the fire. That's like I always feel like I have

1145
01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:06.399
to correct for David, So I'll give it an eight

1146
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:07.119
point five.

1147
01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:14.680
All right? Eight point five from Eric?

1148
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.680
So Charles, how are the trucks firsts line up with

1149
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:20.560
our Facebook fans tonight?

1150
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:24.840
Okay? And since I got a better spreadsheet than I

1151
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:30.279
normally do, the fans gave it a nine point four

1152
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:35.439
and the truck spirts gave it eight point seven. But

1153
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:40.119
to stretch out those numbers, the fans overall rating for

1154
01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:45.800
season one is an eight point seven. The host overall

1155
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:51.920
rating is an eight point five, So the fans like

1156
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:55.159
the show gets a little bit just two tens better

1157
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:55.720
than we did.

1158
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.600
It's very on par, though, very on par. I'm that's

1159
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:04.399
actually kind of impressive. Yeah, and and I do want

1160
01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.000
like I will just say that the reviews today seemed

1161
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:09.880
like they we reskewed, right. I was reading a lot

1162
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.239
of nines and tens. But but it's important for the

1163
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:16.800
listeners to know that these are actual reactions that we're

1164
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.359
not curating, that we're just pulling off of our Facebook

1165
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:23.359
page and putting in the notes. So maybe we're not

1166
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:27.319
getting the haters commenting, which is why the numbers look

1167
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.800
look so high. I feel like that's maybe more of

1168
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.640
an honest review. I don't know, that's that's my thoughts.

1169
01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:37.079
It feels like more of an honest number than some

1170
01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:38.720
of the comments that you read on some of the

1171
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.000
other social media pages.

1172
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:44.680
So I think a lot of the haters are not

1173
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:48.159
as much wanted in our page, And so we got

1174
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:51.000
some more of the true fans that really enjoy the

1175
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:55.720
series reviewing it than just those that want to give a.

1176
01:10:55.720 --> 01:11:00.800
Comment to the people that say stuff like a dumpster fire,

1177
01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:05.479
death to Kurtsman, all this that I don't consider those

1178
01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:09.520
to be honest reviews, so unless they have something constructive

1179
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:13.000
to say, like you guys might notice, very rarely do

1180
01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:14.079
I put up a score.

1181
01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:17.079
That with just a number. You know, I want to

1182
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:18.359
know why you gave it that.

1183
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.479
So a lot of the people that give it negative

1184
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:25.239
scores are just dit shits, you know, and they're they're

1185
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:30.159
they're not justifying. You know, well it's a negative one thousand, Okay,

1186
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.560
why you know it was kirtsman sucks?

1187
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:35.239
Well, no, that's not a reason.

1188
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:38.079
So you know, a lot of those don't make it

1189
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:42.520
because the people that post them are idiots. So well,

1190
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.039
and you know, you're free to go to our Facebook

1191
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.600
page you look at the comments yourself. Those are I

1192
01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:50.239
think one of our fans summed it up perfectly. It's

1193
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:53.319
nice to see people give honest opinions of the show.

1194
01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.840
And I want to say that if I can say

1195
01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:01.399
a lot of the haters, they are are lashing out,

1196
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.840
maybe not so much at Star Trek per Se, but

1197
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:12.560
at the concept that we've seen. You know that that

1198
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:17.479
there's a certain faction that doesn't like that. We were

1199
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:21.359
talking about earlier before the show about the diversity, equity

1200
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:25.439
and inclusion type of thing and or the you know,

1201
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:28.199
the body shaming because like where have we seen people

1202
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:32.000
calling names and you know, saying that somebody's fat and

1203
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.239
all that stuff. So I think it's a there's something,

1204
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:41.039
there's something bigger. So it's they just decide that they

1205
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:43.560
want that Star Trek is going to be there. They're

1206
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:46.560
going to aim for Star Trek, but they have a

1207
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:48.680
lot more hate in their hearts. And that's really kind

1208
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:49.359
of sad.

1209
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:53.199
That there's something big out there, all right, and it's

1210
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:59.279
wearing an adult diaper. That's the something, that's the something big.

1211
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.039
And I just like to point out too, it's just

1212
01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:07.720
I think some of it's very easy to become pessimistic

1213
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:09.920
when something like this happens, right, And I would just

1214
01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:13.119
like to say in general, I mean, I'm on Facebook

1215
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.039
as much as anybody believe me, I am right, not

1216
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:19.880
always to my benefit, but Facebook has become like a

1217
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:23.920
you know, the bottom of the of the pipe, if

1218
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:26.279
you will, right, For a lot of the toxic comments

1219
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:30.399
go over someplace else, go over to the threads. In particular,

1220
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:34.039
I've seen very few negative comments over on that platform.

1221
01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:37.760
A lot of positive people who clearly love start talking

1222
01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.359
very unhappy about recent news right. Same over on Blue

1223
01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:44.840
Sky there's a lot more positive stuff over there. Facebook

1224
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.560
is incredibly badly regulated, as we are seeing in the

1225
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:50.520
news today, right, and it's just.

1226
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:54.399
It's swarming with bots, swarming with bad.

1227
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:56.399
Actors and people of ill intents. So it's just like,

1228
01:13:57.520 --> 01:13:59.800
you know, I think I would love to see our

1229
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:04.520
show spend more time on other platforms and less time

1230
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:06.880
on Facebook, and I think we would find people who

1231
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:11.560
are more inclined to appreciate a positive aspect of where

1232
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:14.039
Truck should go. Because if you're just staying keeping it

1233
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:16.520
only in a Facebook group, you canna have a lot

1234
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:18.760
of trolls and a lot of depression, a lot of negativity.

1235
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:20.600
And that's just the fact.

1236
01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:25.359
That's true. That is true.

1237
01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:30.439
So that wraps up our conversation on the season one

1238
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:35.239
finale a Starfleet Academy. We do have season two to

1239
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:39.680
look forward to, so that's awesome, and I think now

1240
01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:43.000
it's time to do some Star Trek birthdays.

1241
01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:45.640
Higher Absolutely.

1242
01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:05.560
That was not a plan on song, and we always

1243
01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:08.920
stirred out our sci fi birthdays by remembering those members

1244
01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:11.840
of the family who, sadly enough, are no longer with us,

1245
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.680
and for that returned to Eric.

1246
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:16.920
Yeah, our first remembrance this week goes out to actress

1247
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:21.079
Karen Steele. She was the Hawaiian born model turned actress

1248
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:23.880
whose career ran from the early fifties to the early

1249
01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:28.720
nineteen seventies. She played Eve Mchuron in the TOS first

1250
01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:32.720
season episode MUDs Women. She, of course, was a former

1251
01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:37.039
cover girl and model. She made sixteen movies along the way,

1252
01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:40.239
the most famous of which is probably Marty from nineteen

1253
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:44.520
fifty five, and about fifty television guest appearances are under

1254
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:48.199
her belt, usually playing tough, hard boiled characters. Believe it

1255
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:51.760
or not, she was mistaken for another actress by producer

1256
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:54.119
Delbert Mann back in the day when he cast her

1257
01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:58.159
as a hard case in the drama film Marty, which

1258
01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:01.960
I think is kind of interesting. Unfortunately, she got cancer

1259
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:05.560
and died way too early, only fifty six years old,

1260
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:09.039
a little more than a week before her fifty seventh birthday.

1261
01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:12.560
So lost to early. Karen Steele, thank you so much

1262
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:16.479
for your Star Trek contributions and Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday

1263
01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:19.039
as well to Logan Ramsey, the actor who appeared as

1264
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:23.319
Claudius Marcus in the TOS second season episode Bread and Circuses.

1265
01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:26.880
His father, Logan Ramsey, if you're not familiar, was the

1266
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:30.560
naval officer who became famous in radio history after sending

1267
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.520
the message air raid Pearl Harbor. This is No Drill.

1268
01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:37.920
Upon the outbreak of World War two following the attack

1269
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:41.239
by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor in nineteen forty one.

1270
01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:46.039
Logan actually also guest starred on the Kung Fu television

1271
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:50.359
series episode The squaw Man, and did a whole bunch

1272
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:52.960
of other kind of guest star things along the way,

1273
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.600
including an appearance on The Monkeys, which I thought was

1274
01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:58.359
kind of fun. That was a show that I actually

1275
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:05.079
watched on occasion. He also portrayed more in Battlestar Galactica

1276
01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:08.840
Believe it or not, the Nationalist president from the original

1277
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:16.199
series episode Experiment in Terra. So happy birthday to Logan Ramsey.

1278
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:20.640
Happy birthday as well to Kenneth Toby, the veteran actor

1279
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:24.920
from Oakland, California, who appeared as Urgan in the DS

1280
01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:29.239
nine second season episode shadow Play. In his long career,

1281
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:32.319
Toby appeared in over one hundred films and television series,

1282
01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:35.760
many times in brief supporting roles, and he of course

1283
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:38.439
was no stranger to science fiction, having starred in such

1284
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.800
classics as The Thing from Another World and It Came

1285
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:45.199
from Beneath the Sea. He also appeared in the film

1286
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:49.439
Strange Invaders, which featured DS nine guest stars Luis Fletcher

1287
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:52.720
and Wallace Sean, so he rubbed elbows with the Big

1288
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:56.880
EIAs from the beginning. Happy Birthday to Kenneth Toby Lost

1289
01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:01.239
back in two thousand and two Happy Birthday, as well

1290
01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:04.399
to Philip Richard Allen, the actor who played Captain j

1291
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:07.880
t Esteban in Star Trek three The Search for Spock.

1292
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:11.520
He is known for numerous television and film guest appearances.

1293
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:16.640
He appeared alongside Merritt, buck Trick and David Marcus, and

1294
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:21.720
I had coincidentally already played a character named David Marcus

1295
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:26.800
himself in the nineteen seventy seven show Lou Grant. His

1296
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:29.680
most consistent career work was on the short lived television

1297
01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:32.840
series The Bad News Bears, which also featured Katherine Hicks.

1298
01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.279
Myriad guest appearances throughout the sixties, seventies and eighties, and

1299
01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:41.720
his last appearance was on an episode of the television

1300
01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:47.720
series lawndizizz I can't even pronounce it, apparently, a British

1301
01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:51.079
soap drama about the lives of poles who settle in

1302
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:53.640
the UK capital of London. In two thousand and nine,

1303
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:59.119
very interesting. Happy Birthday to Philip Richard Allen, and now

1304
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.760
we've got our big one. Happy birthday to a person

1305
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.520
that I just respect so much in the Star Trek

1306
01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:11.319
Lexicon universe, whatever you want to say, Happy birthday to

1307
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:16.119
Dorothy Catherine Fontana DC Fontana, who was a writer and

1308
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:18.920
script editor and had the distinction of being one of

1309
01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:21.560
the few people to have worked on the original series,

1310
01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:26.279
the animated series, The Next Generation, and Deep Space nine.

1311
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:32.000
When writing, Fontana often used pseudonyms, including Michael Richards and J.

1312
01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:35.600
Michael Bingham. You can probably guess why, because she was

1313
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:38.600
a woman in a man's world, and her stuff probably

1314
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:41.000
wouldn't get published if she put her actual name on it.

1315
01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:44.279
She said that Deep Space nine was actually her favorite

1316
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:47.399
Star Trek spinoff, and we lost her back in twenty nineteen,

1317
01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:49.079
so she got to see all of that kind of

1318
01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:53.399
classic New Generation stuff, and she loved DS nine. She

1319
01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:55.840
worked as a writer for a few television series before

1320
01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:59.880
Star Trek, then briefly worked as Gene Roddenberry's secretary, which

1321
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:04.359
how he became familiar with her. She wrote so many episodes,

1322
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:06.840
you guys, I think she wrote ten episodes of the

1323
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:11.640
original series. She wrote my favorite episode of the animated series,

1324
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:16.439
yesteryear she wrote five solid, solid episodes of Next Generation

1325
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:20.199
along the way, and then she actually wrote the Deep

1326
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:24.479
Space nine episode Dax, which I'm sure you're all familiar with.

1327
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:28.359
At the age of twenty seven years old, she was

1328
01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:31.560
the youngest story editor in Hollywood at the time and

1329
01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:35.239
also one of the few female staff writers. That is

1330
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:39.000
something pretty cool too. There's so much to say about

1331
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:40.920
DC Fontana, and I feel like I could just go

1332
01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:44.319
on and on about her forever, but needless to say,

1333
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:48.680
she was an absolute rock star doing things that women

1334
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:51.159
just weren't really doing at the time, not because of

1335
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:53.199
lack of skill or anything, but just because they were

1336
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:55.960
not given the opportunities. And thank goodness, she was able

1337
01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:59.079
to rub elbows with Roddenberry and be able to put

1338
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:01.680
her name in the hat and get her stuff out there.

1339
01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:05.399
So I'll just say a very warm and happy happy

1340
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:09.920
birthday to d. C. Fontana, born the twenty fifth of

1341
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:15.439
March nineteen thirty nine. And speaking of big, big, big birthdays,

1342
01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:17.920
that's right, one of the Big Three has won this

1343
01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:22.199
week as well. Happy birthday to Leonard Simon Nimoy, the

1344
01:21:22.279 --> 01:21:24.960
actor who was best known for his Emmy Award nominated

1345
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:28.279
portrayal of Spock, the half human, half Vulcan first Officer

1346
01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:32.479
and Science Officer aboard the USS Enterprise. He's the only

1347
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:35.079
member of the original series main cast who have been

1348
01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:38.720
featured in the original pilot episode The Cage. He continued

1349
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:42.520
the role throughout the entire original series tenure, including the

1350
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:46.520
animated series and the first six Star Trek films. He also,

1351
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:49.880
of course appeared in the Next Generation fifth season episodes

1352
01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:53.760
Unification one in two in celebration of the twenty fifth

1353
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:57.399
anniversary of Star Trek being broadcast, and then left his

1354
01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:00.359
mark in the newer films. He was of course in

1355
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.239
Star Trek two thousand and nine, and his visage was

1356
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:08.439
used in some of the other Kelvin Timeline movies. He

1357
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:12.760
entered Boston College on a dramatic scholarship way back in

1358
01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:15.479
the day, but dropped out and headed for the West Coast,

1359
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:19.039
knowing that there he would find more lucrative opportunities in

1360
01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:22.199
the acting business. In the early nineteen fifties, he was

1361
01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:25.520
also a member of the United States Army Reserve, and

1362
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:30.119
he served for eighteen months in Special Special Services at

1363
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:34.399
Fort McPherson in Georgia and received a discharge and honorable

1364
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:38.800
discharge in nineteen fifty five as a sergeant. In December

1365
01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:41.520
two thousand and two, Nimoy announced his retirement from acting

1366
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.640
and his plans to spend his retirement as a photographer.

1367
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.319
On the second of June twenty fifteen, NASA honored Nimoy

1368
01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:54.199
when they named an asteroid after him four eight six'.

1369
01:22:54.359 --> 01:22:59.680
Four Nimoy his legacy continued through a documentary film created

1370
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:03.600
by his Daughter, julie his Son, adam and narrated By John,

1371
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:08.439
delancey Titled Remembering Leonard, nimoy which was designed to raise

1372
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:12.479
awareness of chronic obstructive pulmonary, disease which of course was

1373
01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:15.279
what he died, from having been a pretty heavy smoker

1374
01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:19.039
his entire. Life there are so many great things to

1375
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:22.159
say About Leonard, nimoy of, course AND i won't bore

1376
01:23:22.199 --> 01:23:24.640
you with. Those i'm sure everybody knows very well who he.

1377
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:27.399
IS i will say that we recently had his son

1378
01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:30.039
on the podcast and it was a great. Episode if

1379
01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:32.279
you haven't listened to, that you should go check out

1380
01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:35.079
The Adam nimoy podcast we did just a few weeks.

1381
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:39.119
Ago And Adam nimoy had a book too that we

1382
01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:41.279
discussed and some of that gives you a little bit

1383
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:45.720
of that behind the scenes information About leonard as a

1384
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:49.079
dad and what it was like to have him as a.

1385
01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:52.760
Dad so go check those out And i'll just say

1386
01:23:52.840 --> 01:23:56.039
happy birthday and lots of love going out To Leonard

1387
01:23:56.079 --> 01:24:01.760
Nimoy Barne march twenty, sixth just, today nineteen thirty. One

1388
01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:05.479
and that does it for our remembrances this, week. Folks

1389
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:08.800
So i'm going to pass this flaming birthday candle over

1390
01:24:08.920 --> 01:24:09.279
to v.

1391
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:10.479
All, right thank.

1392
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:10.600
You.

1393
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:14.439
Eric also want to add real quick that you can

1394
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:18.560
get it on demand for free On PLUTO. Tv but

1395
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:23.560
another documentary called for The love Of spock That adam

1396
01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:27.199
did had started while his dad was still, alive wanted

1397
01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:32.199
to honor, him and continued it finished it After leonard's.

1398
01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:36.720
Death so that's really really good as. Well So Happy

1399
01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:42.239
birthday goes To Brian. Brophy he Played Bruce maddox in

1400
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:46.199
THE tng second season Episode The measure of A, man

1401
01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:50.479
where they were questioning Whether data was a machine or

1402
01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:57.399
was he a sentient. Being Vanessa, Branch happy birthday to.

1403
01:24:57.880 --> 01:25:01.920
You she played the adult version Of Naomi wildman And.

1404
01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:06.840
Voyager seventh SEASON Epi Chattered she is best known for

1405
01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:10.960
her role Of giselle in all of The pirates of

1406
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:16.000
The caribbean. Films, Next Happy birthday goes out To Sadie.

1407
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:20.399
Monroe she Played lil in The Star Trek Short treks

1408
01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:25.760
Episode children Of. Mars she has been acting professionally since

1409
01:25:25.840 --> 01:25:29.560
the age of eight and appeared on shows such As Orphan,

1410
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:36.399
Black Saving hope And American. Gods, Next Happy birthday goes

1411
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:41.960
To Anthony. Delongus Delongo sorry is An american, actor fight,

1412
01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:47.640
director and trainer who Played color in five episodes On.

1413
01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:54.560
Voyager Next Happy birthday To Swandi, wilson an actor who

1414
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:58.760
Played Captain Lee, too son Of burnham And book in

1415
01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:05.880
The Star Trek discussy fifth season Episode Life. Itself happy

1416
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:10.600
birthday To Jennifer, Edwards Los angeles born actress who Played

1417
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:15.920
kyle IN tng fifth season Episode New. Ground she's the

1418
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:24.039
daughter Of hollywood writer director Producer Blake. Edwards interesting who

1419
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:29.800
was married To Julie. Andrews fun fact and last but not,

1420
01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:32.920
least somebody who was at the con AND i unfortunately

1421
01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:35.279
did not get to. MEET i would have loved. To

1422
01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:39.279
it was just crazy when she was. There but a

1423
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:44.560
very happy birthday To Jess. Bush she's An australian, actor,

1424
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:49.439
model and visual artist who Plays Christine chappell In Star

1425
01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:54.079
Trek's Strange New. World her performance in the series' first

1426
01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:58.439
season earned her a twenty twenty Two Saturn award nomination

1427
01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:06.239
in the Category Best Supporting actress in A Streaming. Series All,

1428
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:10.000
right passing The Flaming? Birthday canpdbell over To?

1429
01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:10.600
Paul?

1430
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:13.119
Oh, Wait paul's gone?

1431
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:14.279
Right?

1432
01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:22.039
YEAH i think, well, SURE i definitely will. Well Happy

1433
01:27:22.119 --> 01:27:26.279
birthday to Nala ake. Herself Holly hunter's birthday is this. Week,

1434
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:30.920
she of, course is The Academy, Award Golden globe And

1435
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:35.560
emmy winning actress who Plays Captain Nala ak In Starfleet.

1436
01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:39.119
Academy she's known for starring In The piano from nineteen ninety,

1437
01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:41.920
three for which she won The Academy award For Best,

1438
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:46.800
actress and also In David Cronenberg's, crash and her resume

1439
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:50.720
is extremely. Long you should go to HER IMDb page

1440
01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:53.920
to check it. Out but she's just an absolute force

1441
01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:55.680
in this show And i'm just so happy that she's

1442
01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:58.680
part of The Star trek universe right. Now, holly thank

1443
01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:01.039
you so much for your. Contribute know that everybody on

1444
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:04.279
this podcast loves you so, much and happy birthday to.

1445
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:09.439
You speaking of powerful women In Star, Trek happy birthday

1446
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:13.760
To Sniqua Martin, green The american actress who Plays Michael

1447
01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:17.199
burnham In Star Trek. Discovery she won A Saturn award

1448
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:21.319
for her performance in twenty, eighteen the first industry awards

1449
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:24.479
she was ever nominated. For this was followed by a

1450
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:28.359
second nomination in twenty, nineteen which she also, won and

1451
01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:33.439
a third one in twenty twenty. One aniqua, also everybody

1452
01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:36.479
on this podcast loves you and just think That Michael

1453
01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:38.439
burnham is such a great character and we all Love

1454
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:40.720
discovery so, much so thank you so much for Your

1455
01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:45.119
Star trek. CONTRIBUTIONS i secretly hope that maybe one day

1456
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:48.479
we'll get to See Michael, burnham like do a cameo

1457
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.279
in a in a you, Know Starfleet academy Or Stranging

1458
01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:54.279
worlds or something like. That i'd love to see her

1459
01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:59.159
face In Star trek. Again happy. Birthday speaking of powerful

1460
01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:03.079
women in Stuf Our, Trek we've got another. One Amanda,

1461
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:06.560
plummer who of course Played vadic in the third season

1462
01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:09.479
Of Star Trek, picard was also born this. Week she's

1463
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:12.319
the daughter of the late Actor Christopher, plummer of, course

1464
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:15.520
who Played General chang And Star trek Sixth The Undiscovered.

1465
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:20.119
Country many many people became familiar with her or more

1466
01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:22.439
acquainted with. HER i Guess i'll say for her role

1467
01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:28.239
In Pulp. Fiction here me, up you. Bitch love that

1468
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:31.680
scene where she gets up on the table. Execute, yeah

1469
01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:35.920
you know What i'm talking. About Amanda plumber Born march twenty.

1470
01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:38.680
Third happy birthday to you and thank you so much

1471
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:41.600
for being part of Our Star trek. Family and last

1472
01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:44.039
but not, least On paul's, LIST i will say happy

1473
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:48.000
birthday To Sir Gary Leonard, oldman The english actor and

1474
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:52.560
filmmaker known for his versatility and intense acting. Style he's

1475
01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:56.439
received various, accolades including An Academy, award A Golden, globe

1476
01:29:56.760 --> 01:30:01.760
Three British Academy Film, awards and nomination for Three Primetime Emmy.

1477
01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:05.760
Awards Sci fi fans know him as the flamboyant Villain

1478
01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:10.279
Jean Baptiste Emmanuel zorg In The Fifth, element one of

1479
01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.640
my favorite sci fi, movies role he took as a

1480
01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:17.840
favor to Director Luke, besson despite disliking the film at the.

1481
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:22.119
TIME i wonder if his like if the fact that

1482
01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:24.239
it's kind of become a cult classic has changed his

1483
01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:26.039
opinion at all on. THAT i would love to know,

1484
01:30:27.239 --> 01:30:31.399
Anyway Gary, oldman love your, stuff seeing almost every movie

1485
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:34.079
you've ever been. In love you so. Much Happy birthday

1486
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:37.760
To Sir Gary Leonard. Oldman and that does it for that.

1487
01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:41.239
List SO i will pass this one over To Jim.

1488
01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:45.760
Why thank you so, Much, Eric and as USUAL i

1489
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:50.279
do with The, KLINGONS i do happen to have the

1490
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:53.319
Ultimate klinghan on my, list but there were a couple

1491
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:55.520
in here THAT i wanted to grab THAT i Aren't,

1492
01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:59.039
klanon SO i apologize to everybody for not doing Just.

1493
01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:01.640
Klingons but the first ONE i want to Say happy

1494
01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:03.920
birthday To John, delancy who PLAYED.

1495
01:31:04.199 --> 01:31:07.119
Q we won't go into. It he's played With hugh

1496
01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:07.760
and a lot of.

1497
01:31:07.880 --> 01:31:10.399
Things but the reason WHY i wanted to Say happy

1498
01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:14.039
birthday To John delancy is to share a little story

1499
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:15.399
that happened up At Chuck Connor.

1500
01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:19.159
Roga i'm not sure If eric was at this particular

1501
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:19.840
show or.

1502
01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:22.439
Not, yeah WELL i have my. OWN i have my

1503
01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:24.880
Own John delancy story from that exact, Con but go

1504
01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:25.680
ahead and tell, yours.

1505
01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:28.680
Yep so HERE i am dressed up as a, claim

1506
01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:32.199
got the whole head on the gear my, batlift AND

1507
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:36.720
i Chuck. CONNOR roga is held at the high school

1508
01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:40.479
in Ty Con. Roga Uh SO i go in the,

1509
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:43.479
Bathroom i'm standing at the urinal and who walks up

1510
01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:46.880
to the journal right next to, Me John, delancey and

1511
01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:50.520
so like we shared a urinal, together and in typical dude,

1512
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:55.880
style it's like he and, uh you, know, uh he

1513
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:56.199
did his.

1514
01:31:56.359 --> 01:31:57.439
THING i did my. Day.

1515
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:01.479
Everyone what did he? Say did he SAY i have to?

1516
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:09.039
Pee did he have to SAY i have to? Pee? Though, so, uh.

1517
01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:14.239
Is such a small venue that things like that can.

1518
01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:21.319
Happen you never know who you're happy Birthday John. Delancey so.

1519
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:26.359
As that it's not it's not quite that. Good it's

1520
01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:28.760
from the same con. Though but but WHAT i did

1521
01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:31.359
learn About John delancy was that even though he's kind

1522
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:34.079
of like a really big star and, stuff he's a

1523
01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:37.439
very personable. Guy, so, UH i was walking down the

1524
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:41.920
hallway during that con And john had his his. Entourage

1525
01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:43.239
he had a couple of guys who were like sort

1526
01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:45.479
of following him around making sure everything was. Okay and

1527
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.439
he's walking down the hallway one way And i'm walking

1528
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:49.279
down the hallway or the other, way AND i look

1529
01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:51.399
at him And i'm, like oh, shit That's John. Delancy

1530
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:54.239
and SO i, SAY i say Hi, john and he's Like.

1531
01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:55.319
Hi, there.

1532
01:32:57.279 --> 01:32:57.520
That was.

1533
01:32:57.600 --> 01:32:59.880
It so he responded to, me which was kind of.

1534
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:02.159
Cool BUT i didn't get the p next to.

1535
01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:07.000
Him oh my.

1536
01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:10.800
God when you're standing at the, journal you look straight.

1537
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:11.199
Ahead.

1538
01:33:12.880 --> 01:33:16.720
See see in the in the women's. BATHROOM i could

1539
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:21.279
only expect. Somebody and this is A seinfeld reference to

1540
01:33:21.680 --> 01:33:30.680
ask IF i could spare a, Square, yeah The, elaine

1541
01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:33.720
the Whole elaine. Thing NO i. Can't i'm. SORRY i

1542
01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:34.840
don't have a square to.

1543
01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:36.560
SPARE i don't know a.

1544
01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:41.800
Square. Yeah, Yeah so happy birthday To John.

1545
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:46.399
Delancy, yeah he's PLAYED q ON t N, G D s, Nine,

1546
01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:49.720
Voyager Lower, Decks Per card And Strange New. World so

1547
01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:54.760
happy birthday To John. Delancy next on my, list we

1548
01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:58.960
want to say happy birthday To Timothy. Dalton and there

1549
01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:02.399
he is on The British actor Of stage And, screen

1550
01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:08.039
famous for being chosen as the Fourth James Bond geest

1551
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:14.880
starred As ROSE i can't read, It rosalind and doctor

1552
01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.239
WHO i don't know who that? Is i'm out A

1553
01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:20.119
whovian television story the end of.

1554
01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:23.600
Time but what do we know him? For come, On,

1555
01:34:23.800 --> 01:34:24.680
david what are we knowing?

1556
01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:36.279
For that's, right we know him For flash he almost

1557
01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:40.920
Played Prince baron in nineteen Eighty flash chord of movie

1558
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:42.239
music by The.

1559
01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:45.079
Queen Happy, BIRTHDAY.

1560
01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:48.960
I always want to, SAY i always want to clarify

1561
01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:51.399
him like. People that's an old reference that goes back

1562
01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:55.079
a few. Episodes if you haven't, listened you. Should we

1563
01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:57.640
know they're called, queen but we like to joke about.

1564
01:34:57.680 --> 01:35:02.239
It y bearing with the leader of OUR bori. Yah

1565
01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:07.239
So happy birthday To Timothy. Dalton next on my list

1566
01:35:07.439 --> 01:35:09.920
is The Awesome we talked a lot about her, Tonight

1567
01:35:10.479 --> 01:35:14.000
Tig nataro AND i have an awesome story in our

1568
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:15.600
news to share with. You and there she is with

1569
01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:20.920
her what Space kitten R dale Olef. Frock she's a

1570
01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:24.159
stand up, comic writer and actors who Played Jet reno

1571
01:35:24.239 --> 01:35:28.199
And Star Trek discovery And Starfleet. Academy after her stand

1572
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:31.159
up Show live in which she announced she had breast,

1573
01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:35.039
cancer it brought her worldwide acclaim.

1574
01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:35.960
AND i JUST i love her to.

1575
01:35:36.039 --> 01:35:38.399
DEATH i think she's great AND i have a great

1576
01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:41.520
story to share about her later on in the. Show

1577
01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:48.000
so happy birthday to Tig. Nataro and now now it's

1578
01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:53.560
time for Some. Klingons an actually Awesome. KLINGON i think

1579
01:35:53.680 --> 01:35:56.520
The klingon of Cling, wow the Kling on Of klingons

1580
01:35:56.560 --> 01:35:59.720
might Be Michael, goring but this guy's definitely right up.

1581
01:35:59.800 --> 01:36:02.800
There he's up there With wharf And. MARTAK i want

1582
01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:08.319
to say happy birthday and to the Awesome robert, O'Reilly

1583
01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:11.279
and there he is on the. Screen best known for

1584
01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:14.680
his portrayal Of galron on THE tng AND ds, nine

1585
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:18.720
he Portrayed goron in the video Game Star Trek. Klingon in,

1586
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:22.479
addition he appeared As, kavak the antagonist of The Star

1587
01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:27.800
trek The Next generation Of Klingon challenge INTERACTIVE vhs board.

1588
01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:29.800
Game anybody remember playing that?

1589
01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:30.159
Game?

1590
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:37.800
No? Yes mane, okay well all, right Well i'm, Old, okay,

1591
01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:39.600
Yeah i'm.

1592
01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:46.920
Old and he also he also Played garon's, ancestor a

1593
01:36:47.079 --> 01:36:48.880
car In Star Trek.

1594
01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:52.520
Online and way way way back.

1595
01:36:52.439 --> 01:36:55.319
In the day WHEN i was Running Star trek conventions,

1596
01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:59.600
myself we Had robert O'Reilly at his very First Star

1597
01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:03.119
trek mentioned and he was there With Charles, cooper who

1598
01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:07.760
court was in the Best Star trek movie, Ever Star trek,

1599
01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:11.920
five and they did Their klingon thing together and it

1600
01:37:12.039 --> 01:37:14.800
was a lot of. Fun So happy birthday To robert

1601
01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:20.439
O'Reilly And eric started off and ended his birthdays with

1602
01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:25.199
the Awesome Leonard. Nimoy i'm going to wrap up my

1603
01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:31.359
birthdays With William, shatner and what CAN i? Say he's

1604
01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:34.760
An Emmy award Winning canadian. Actor he was in all

1605
01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:37.640
seventy nine episodes OF, tos twenty one episodes Of.

1606
01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:43.319
Tas all THE tos. Movies but but fu fu fu.

1607
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:48.680
FUCK i think he's best known for writing and directing

1608
01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:52.960
beyond a shadow of a, doubt the Best Star trek

1609
01:37:53.079 --> 01:37:56.279
movie ever. Made it's right here over my head right

1610
01:37:56.359 --> 01:38:00.560
Either Star trek Five The Final, frontier and right here

1611
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:04.119
where my finger is is my autograph poster From Lawrence,

1612
01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:08.119
lucambille who we also had on the Podcast Star trek

1613
01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:11.279
Five The Final, frontier written and directed By William shatner.

1614
01:38:11.399 --> 01:38:17.520
Himself happy birthday to THE O G captain and that

1615
01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:22.880
my friends wraps up are rather Lengthy Star trek birthdays for.

1616
01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:26.760
Tonight we're not done With William. Shatner oh, no we're.

1617
01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:31.720
Not we have Our Star Trek news and we don't

1618
01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:36.359
have a news you, know logo song. Yet we're working on.

1619
01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:44.880
One but, okay if you want to get with Our Star, trek,

1620
01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:46.479
yeah here we.

1621
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:49.880
GO i was gonna, say before we get, back can

1622
01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:51.439
we get that last special on?

1623
01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:51.800
There?

1624
01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:58.199
Yeah go, Ahead, okay throw that one picture, Up. DAVID

1625
01:38:58.960 --> 01:39:02.079
i wanted to throw up little SPECIALS i learned. TODAY

1626
01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:08.760
i was going Through facebook and got. Reminded march twenty,

1627
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:14.119
six two thousand and, five released the first episode of

1628
01:39:14.239 --> 01:39:18.640
The Doctor who. Reboot today was the first day that

1629
01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:23.159
the first episode they released With christopher eccleson And Billy

1630
01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:27.640
piper in that first, episode and that first episode just

1631
01:39:28.520 --> 01:39:31.479
grabbed me and got me hooked on coming back To Doctor.

1632
01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:37.279
Who what a series That christopher put. Together i'm a little.

1633
01:39:37.079 --> 01:39:40.399
Bit fuzzy on this Whole Doctor who. Thing how can

1634
01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:43.520
it be a Re it's not actually a reboot because

1635
01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:46.960
The doctor reboots every time he, dies.

1636
01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:52.079
Right, uh the last Step i'm trying to. BELIEVE i

1637
01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:55.520
believe it was ninety six that they ran a movie

1638
01:39:57.399 --> 01:40:01.279
and the series came to. Conclude they didn't start it

1639
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:05.239
AND bbc just started to come back and start a

1640
01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:08.279
brand new. Series let's just, say LIKE tos TO, tng

1641
01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:11.439
they just started to try a brand new try at

1642
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:15.880
the series and brought the series back with a new,

1643
01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:24.199
directors new, cast new, crew and brought the episode. Back

1644
01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:28.560
the real interesting story is they really Wanted David tennan

1645
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:32.319
to come in and play the, doctor But david was

1646
01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:36.359
locked in a contract at two thousand and five or

1647
01:40:36.359 --> 01:40:39.359
at the time of, filming could not come in and

1648
01:40:39.880 --> 01:40:44.279
portray the. Doctor so they hired ecchelson to come in

1649
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:48.159
and play the doctor for one, season and Then dave

1650
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:50.039
was able to come in and take over there for

1651
01:40:50.119 --> 01:41:00.880
the second. Season But, chris Actually, Jody, okay.

1652
01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:05.039
There's, yeah, yeah you've got one. Doctor there's. One there's

1653
01:41:05.079 --> 01:41:08.880
one alien portrayed by, many, many many different. Actors so

1654
01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:11.439
that's the that's how doctor who. Works there's only one.

1655
01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:14.359
Guy he's been the same doctor from the very beginning

1656
01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:16.399
all the way up until the very, end just played

1657
01:41:16.399 --> 01:41:17.920
by different, actors, Right, Charles.

1658
01:41:18.359 --> 01:41:18.760
Yes.

1659
01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:26.720
So jody came along in the transformation later. On But

1660
01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:31.560
christopher really brought me. In we got some interesting. CHARACTERS

1661
01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:34.800
i Know Eric's i'm a big Billy piper. Fan BUT

1662
01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:37.199
i liked What billy, did AND i liked some of

1663
01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:40.479
the characters we met in that, season and that just

1664
01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:42.920
got me brought back and, SAID i always sit there

1665
01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:48.920
and say that, doctor the Fourth doctor was my first.

1666
01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:54.680
Doctor But eckelson's the doctor that brought me, back And

1667
01:41:54.840 --> 01:41:55.439
i've been hooked.

1668
01:41:55.800 --> 01:42:00.399
Right, well there we have a doctor who we his

1669
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:05.239
way Into Trek talk AND, mbi which is. Awesome all,

1670
01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:07.880
right so let's let's get back to Our Star Trek

1671
01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:12.119
news and we have a story that of course continues

1672
01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:13.479
Our shatner AND.

1673
01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:16.239
I love that. Picture Thanks. David this is of course

1674
01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:19.920
our favorite. Segment shatner says what and the title of

1675
01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:24.960
this one Is William shatner Shares advice For Thriving at ninety,

1676
01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:28.239
five The Star trek legend took to the took TO

1677
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:31.880
x to celebrate the milestone his ninety fifth, birthday posting

1678
01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:35.479
at ninety, Five i'm still. Smoking i've learned two. Things

1679
01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:38.520
never waste a good. Cigar never trust anyone who says

1680
01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:42.079
you should act your. Age the post quickly drew a

1681
01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:46.399
flood of reactions and five point one million, views with

1682
01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:51.560
many fans Applauding shatner's irreverent take on growing older words of. Wisdom,

1683
01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:56.680
indeed one user, wrote another added the embodiment of livelong and.

1684
01:42:56.800 --> 01:43:00.479
Prosper others joined in with birthday, wishes including one fan

1685
01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:03.880
who commented happy, Birthday may you live to one hundred and,

1686
01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:08.960
twenty And David wangberg also, wrote and of course happiest

1687
01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:13.119
of birthdays to a. Legend some responses were more, reflective

1688
01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:17.000
with one user, writing what most don't realize is that

1689
01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:20.199
we're just big kids who can do adult things with adult.

1690
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:23.640
Money life is, serious but that doesn't mean it can't be.

1691
01:43:23.800 --> 01:43:26.880
Fun we have to enjoy every day we wake up,

1692
01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:31.279
because just like, tomorrow this afternoon isn't guaranteed to any of.

1693
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:38.000
Us birthday blessings. Tea, however not everyone was convinced the

1694
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:41.359
message landed, safely particularly when it came to.

1695
01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:44.920
Health you could everybody still.

1696
01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:49.279
Come down with lung cancer PB copd one comment or

1697
01:43:49.319 --> 01:43:52.760
War another, added be careful what you put out.

1698
01:43:52.640 --> 01:43:58.199
There one comments or. Another be careful what you put out,

1699
01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:02.000
there especially when you're done living. Life the young ones are.

1700
01:44:02.239 --> 01:44:06.199
Watching While shatner's remarks were clearly tongue in, cheek medical

1701
01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:11.279
experts consistently stressed that smoking even occasionally are as serious

1702
01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:15.399
risks at any. Age pizations such As American Cancer society

1703
01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:18.239
And centers For Disease control And prevention one that's smoking

1704
01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:22.840
is the leading cause of preventable, illness including lung, cancer heart,

1705
01:44:22.920 --> 01:44:27.439
disease and chronic lung, conditions and that quitting offers health

1706
01:44:27.520 --> 01:44:32.119
benefits even later in. Life, shatner best known for his

1707
01:44:32.239 --> 01:44:34.720
roll As Captain JAMES. T kirk And Star, trek has

1708
01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:38.359
enjoyed a career spanning more than seven. Decades in addition

1709
01:44:38.479 --> 01:44:41.600
to a sci fi, legacy he starred AS. Tj hooker

1710
01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:45.520
And Boston, legal winning Two Emmy, awards authored dozens of,

1711
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:48.560
books and in twenty twenty, one became the oldest person

1712
01:44:48.680 --> 01:44:51.640
to travel to space at age, ninety and wrote and

1713
01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:54.560
directed the Best Star trek movie, Ever Star trek, Five

1714
01:44:54.760 --> 01:44:59.640
The Final. Frontier So paul's not, Here.

1715
01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:05.000
Eric's dot? Here SO v would you like to Play paul's? Story?

1716
01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:11.159
Uh, Sure, yeah this is actually we're all still processing,

1717
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:16.039
this But Star Trek Starfleet academy to end with season.

1718
01:45:16.199 --> 01:45:20.159
Two the show was originally picked up At Paramount plus

1719
01:45:20.239 --> 01:45:24.199
in twenty twenty, three with a streamer renewing the show

1720
01:45:24.319 --> 01:45:27.680
for a second season before the first had. Aired the

1721
01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:32.079
first season debuted In january and aired its season finale

1722
01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:36.720
On march, twelfth while the second season recently wrap. Production

1723
01:45:37.800 --> 01:45:42.640
we're incredibly proud of the, ambition, passion and creativity that

1724
01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:47.439
went into Bringing Starfleet academy to, LIFE Cbs studios And

1725
01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:51.640
Paramount plus said in a joint. Statement the series introduced

1726
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:56.079
audiences to a bold new group of, characters welcomed familiar,

1727
01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:59.920
faces and expanded The Star trek universe in exciting new.

1728
01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:06.880
Ways we're grateful To Alex, Kurtzmanga, Landau Gaya, violo and

1729
01:46:07.279 --> 01:46:11.439
the entire cast and crew who pushed storytelling boundaries in

1730
01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:15.479
the spirit Of Gene roddenberry's. Vision the first season Of

1731
01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:22.000
Starfleet academy reached an eighty seven percent critical approval rating

1732
01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:27.800
On Rotten tomatoes with. Varieties Aramedi tenubu describing it as

1733
01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:32.239
a delightful entry point into the, franchise but the show

1734
01:46:32.359 --> 01:46:37.600
failed to find a significant audience Ha sorry across its

1735
01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:40.640
ten episode first. Season it has failed to rank on

1736
01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:48.000
The Nielsen top ten streaming viewership. Charts series co showrunners

1737
01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:53.439
and executive Producers Alex Kirt kurtzman And Noga landau pend

1738
01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:56.840
a letter in which they expressed their appreciation to the

1739
01:46:57.079 --> 01:47:00.920
hundreds of hard working humans who poured every ounce of

1740
01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:04.840
their talents into the making of the. Show whether you're

1741
01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:08.920
working On Star trek or part of the marvel that

1742
01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:12.399
Is Star trek, fandom its very heart and soul and.

1743
01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:17.279
Conscience the joy comes from adventuring across boundaries of, time,

1744
01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:23.560
space and the humanly. Possible in service To roddenberry's transformative

1745
01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:28.000
vision of the, future the pair wrote that incomparable vision

1746
01:47:28.239 --> 01:47:32.920
was fueled by an inexhaustible. Optimism Star trek places its

1747
01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:36.840
bet on the best in human. Nature it dares to

1748
01:47:37.079 --> 01:47:46.760
imagine a society of infinite diversity in infinite, combination free of, war, hate, poverty,

1749
01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:51.640
disease and, repression and dedicated to the spirit of scientific

1750
01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:56.920
inquiry and respect for all, life whether carbon or silicon,

1751
01:47:57.119 --> 01:48:01.960
based green skinned or. Blue in addition to the upcoming

1752
01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:05.680
second season Of Starfleet, academy there are also two more

1753
01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:09.800
seasons to come Of Star Trek Strange New. World season

1754
01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:12.800
four of the latter show is expected to be released

1755
01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:18.439
later this, year while a fifth and final season recently completed.

1756
01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:30.239
Production Wow what can you SAY i want to touch

1757
01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:30.520
on this.

1758
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:33.960
Briefly next week we're going to talk a lot About Starfleet,

1759
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:37.920
academy BUT i felt we had to mention this story

1760
01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:41.159
because it's so recent And facebook is just crawling with

1761
01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:45.920
the trolls and hatred about the, show AND i don't

1762
01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:48.600
want to spend too too much time on, it BUT

1763
01:48:48.680 --> 01:48:54.000
i think we need to mention it for. Sure the

1764
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:57.560
thing that makes me sad As Star trek, shows they

1765
01:48:57.640 --> 01:49:01.319
come and, go they get, canceled just you, know part of.

1766
01:49:01.399 --> 01:49:04.600
It but what worries, me What i'm concerned the most

1767
01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:13.439
about is The trump administration has attacked the show. Openly Steven,

1768
01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:17.359
Miller The vampire And Elon musk have been ON tv

1769
01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:20.840
and talk About Star trek needing to get rid of

1770
01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:25.600
THE dei and the you, know the representation of the

1771
01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:30.479
LGBT I a plus. Community they've openly said, this we

1772
01:49:30.640 --> 01:49:33.680
need to Get William shatner into to get rid of

1773
01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:36.439
this so That Star trek doesn't.

1774
01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:38.920
Have that message to it and then it's not as

1775
01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:40.520
woke bull.

1776
01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:45.079
SHIT i do not want to if they're going to

1777
01:49:45.239 --> 01:49:48.640
Whitewash Star trek and just give us A Star trek

1778
01:49:48.720 --> 01:49:51.359
that has a white guy in, command a bunch of

1779
01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:55.239
straight white guys running around sexy he half naked pland,

1780
01:49:55.319 --> 01:50:00.560
women spaceship BATTLES, ppp with no moral of this, discussion no,

1781
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:05.239
mirror no socio political anything.

1782
01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:08.279
That's Not Star. TREK i do not want to see.

1783
01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:09.439
THAT i have no interest.

1784
01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:12.159
In i'd rather have No Star trek at all Than

1785
01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:15.239
Star trek that's been. Whitewashed and that's What i'm worried,

1786
01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:19.560
about is whitewashing A Star. Trek i'd rather have nothing

1787
01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:22.760
than to Have Star trek be whitewash Because Star trek

1788
01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:26.600
gives me hope for the future.

1789
01:50:28.119 --> 01:50:29.039
That a lot of shows.

1790
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:32.000
Don't When trump was elected the first, TIME i thought

1791
01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:34.760
it's a, joke it will never happen again. Anyone the second,

1792
01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:39.520
TIME i lost faith in all of. Humanity then they

1793
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:42.560
get involved In Star, trek and Now Star trek is.

1794
01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:47.000
Canceled it disgusts. ME i think we Need Star.

1795
01:50:47.119 --> 01:50:50.560
TREK i think young people need that message that it

1796
01:50:50.640 --> 01:50:53.880
doesn't matter what you look, like how rich you, are

1797
01:50:55.079 --> 01:50:58.279
where you come. From we're all, equal and we all

1798
01:50:58.359 --> 01:51:00.920
have a chance to, grow and if we work, together

1799
01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:03.199
we're stronger than we. Are if we work a. Part

1800
01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:06.920
the message Behind Star trek is a great one and

1801
01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:10.279
it's a one that we. Need AND i think that

1802
01:51:10.520 --> 01:51:15.239
short minded, people closed minded people has silenced, it AND

1803
01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:19.079
i hope it comes back stronger than. Ever right now

1804
01:51:19.239 --> 01:51:22.359
is the first time Since discovery that there is No

1805
01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:23.640
Star trek in.

1806
01:51:23.800 --> 01:51:26.800
Production. None let that sink in.

1807
01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:33.439
People Starfleet academy was already, Done Starfleet Are Strange New

1808
01:51:33.479 --> 01:51:38.640
world is already. Finished so this new merger Between paramount

1809
01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:43.680
and Sky, dance they have nothing in. Production there's, rumors

1810
01:51:44.359 --> 01:51:47.159
but there's. Nothing so when we get done With Starfleet

1811
01:51:47.199 --> 01:51:50.239
academy season, Two Strange New World season, four and the

1812
01:51:50.359 --> 01:51:53.840
short And Strange New world season, five that's.

1813
01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:55.560
It no More Star. Trek.

1814
01:51:55.680 --> 01:52:01.319
People there's nothing in production at. All there's, rumors but nothing.

1815
01:52:01.399 --> 01:52:06.319
More and another thing that scares me about it IS

1816
01:52:08.119 --> 01:52:14.079
i don't want to see A burman style hack like

1817
01:52:14.279 --> 01:52:19.159
we saw With Terry metallis And picard season. Three fans

1818
01:52:19.399 --> 01:52:21.840
just jumped all over that and love, it love, it love.

1819
01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:22.199
It it's the.

1820
01:52:22.319 --> 01:52:28.600
Greatest the best horse hockey was fan, service fanboy nostalgia

1821
01:52:28.800 --> 01:52:31.479
and nothing. MORE i don't want to see.

1822
01:52:31.319 --> 01:52:33.840
That In Star. Trek i'm. SORRY i.

1823
01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:38.279
DON'T i don't mind, bringing you, know Having, tigntaro having The,

1824
01:52:38.399 --> 01:52:41.960
doctor you know type of. Thing but to base an

1825
01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:47.920
entire series on fan service and, nostalgia, NO i don't

1826
01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:51.920
want that. Either But i'm not in. Charge When paramount

1827
01:52:51.960 --> 01:52:55.319
calls me, Great i'm also not a. SHOW i have

1828
01:52:55.439 --> 01:52:59.079
been told that if they spray painted a third With

1829
01:52:59.239 --> 01:53:01.520
Star trek on the side of, IT i would like.

1830
01:53:01.640 --> 01:53:05.159
It charles was around back.

1831
01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:07.039
In the day When discovery came out and they were

1832
01:53:07.079 --> 01:53:09.600
doing podcasts about, Us, Remember, charles.

1833
01:53:10.039 --> 01:53:12.199
YEP i remember BECAUSE i didn't watch any of.

1834
01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:15.920
THEM i heard about. Them but we were getting paid

1835
01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:18.000
by per to promote this.

1836
01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:22.079
Garbage now we are getting paid BY cbs at the.

1837
01:53:22.199 --> 01:53:25.239
Time that's. Right it WAS cbs at the.

1838
01:53:25.319 --> 01:53:28.680
Time, Yeah and there were a whole podcasts about us

1839
01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:32.199
being sellouts and not true fans and we don't Understand

1840
01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:33.720
Star trek and how could we like this?

1841
01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:38.239
Crap all, Right i'm still, here, Guys i'm still. Here

1842
01:53:38.640 --> 01:53:39.560
i'm still doing.

1843
01:53:39.439 --> 01:53:44.000
The, Podcast i'm still doing My facebook. Page and as

1844
01:53:44.079 --> 01:53:46.600
disappointed AS i am and a lot of the reactions

1845
01:53:46.720 --> 01:53:49.720
of a lot of fans out, There.

1846
01:53:52.079 --> 01:53:52.720
I'm not going.

1847
01:53:52.760 --> 01:53:55.319
Anywhere i'm going to be a light in the, darkness

1848
01:53:55.479 --> 01:53:56.840
a light at the end of the, tunnel and a

1849
01:53:56.960 --> 01:53:59.479
voice of reason for all those people out there that

1850
01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:02.039
feel LIKE i. Do so you're not going to, Silence

1851
01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:05.279
you're not gonna make me go. Away i'm here to

1852
01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:08.800
stay and this. Story so we're going to talk a

1853
01:54:08.880 --> 01:54:11.000
lot more about this next. Week eric has got some

1854
01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:14.039
articles that he wants to. Read i've got some reactions

1855
01:54:14.079 --> 01:54:16.399
from some of the, actors and we're going to delve

1856
01:54:16.439 --> 01:54:18.479
a little bit deeper into. It BUT i just felt,

1857
01:54:18.840 --> 01:54:21.520
that you, know it was our duty to mention that.

1858
01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:24.199
Tonight AND i do know there was one story THAT I.

1859
01:54:24.399 --> 01:54:28.000
Jim jim before you, GO i want to colm out

1860
01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:31.239
of your thing and read that. Article i'm curious how

1861
01:54:31.319 --> 01:54:39.479
many Of Star trek episodes Sent discovery have appeared somewhere

1862
01:54:39.520 --> 01:54:46.439
in The nielsen top. Ten So i'm just not. Sure

1863
01:54:48.079 --> 01:54:51.199
i'm not sure Because i'm always hearing everybody talk about

1864
01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:56.239
they're worrying about streaming, Numbers they're worrying about streaming. Times

1865
01:54:56.600 --> 01:54:59.359
they want to see how often an episode is. Streaming

1866
01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:03.720
so how are We we're sadly saying we're worried about

1867
01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:07.800
The nielsen. Ratings it's, like how are The nielsen ratings

1868
01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:11.359
really important to anything but REGULAR? Tv And i'm wondering

1869
01:55:11.359 --> 01:55:14.239
if REGULAR tv even use it because there's so many

1870
01:55:14.359 --> 01:55:20.239
networks out. THERE i know they talk about numbers when

1871
01:55:20.319 --> 01:55:24.479
stuff like sporting events, occur or how many people they've

1872
01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:26.760
got where they count, numbers but they don't talk about

1873
01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:31.479
what place it. Was do people really seriously follow the

1874
01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:32.600
nearest Rate nielsen?

1875
01:55:32.720 --> 01:55:36.760
Ratings WHEN i heard, THAT i started looking it up

1876
01:55:37.279 --> 01:55:40.520
doing some research for next, week and the one THING

1877
01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:45.960
i did find is that generally they wait approximately twenty

1878
01:55:46.119 --> 01:55:50.960
eight days after a show premieres to come up with

1879
01:55:51.039 --> 01:55:53.600
the minutes, viewed because they use minute view to pay

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the actors their residuals for the, episode because they don't

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01:55:57.399 --> 01:56:00.840
do reruns anymore like they used. To Our Fleet academy

1882
01:56:00.920 --> 01:56:03.520
didn't get twenty eight days before they canceled, it SO

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01:56:04.479 --> 01:56:06.399
i don't know what numbers they were, using but they

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01:56:06.479 --> 01:56:09.760
clearly didn't use the twenty eight days to make their.

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01:56:09.800 --> 01:56:13.199
Decision the decision must have been made prior to, that

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01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:17.199
and they just waited to tell. Us BECAUSE i got

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01:56:17.199 --> 01:56:19.119
a couple of other stories here that we're going to skip.

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Over there's a lot to enfold in this and we'll

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01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:25.880
talk in great detail about it next.

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Week but.

1891
01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:30.000
It's Take nataro's, birthday AND i do have a story

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01:56:30.119 --> 01:56:32.720
THAT i want to read about her because it just

1893
01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:37.960
she's wonderful AND i want to read this. Story taken

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01:56:37.960 --> 01:56:42.760
The taro reveals she did a show topless after her double.

1895
01:56:42.880 --> 01:56:47.039
Masectomy tagnataro has gone through some serious ordeals in her,

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01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:51.600
life including nearly dying of sea dip infection in twenty,

1897
01:56:51.880 --> 01:56:55.880
twelve losing her mother to a, fall and being diagnosed

1898
01:56:55.920 --> 01:57:00.520
with bilateral breast, cancer all within a. Year the, actress,

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01:57:00.720 --> 01:57:03.560
author and stand up comedian says she still can't help

1900
01:57:03.880 --> 01:57:07.960
but find the funny in, everything even after undergoing a

1901
01:57:08.079 --> 01:57:13.159
double misectomy at the. Time, quote AFTER i had a double,

1902
01:57:13.239 --> 01:57:16.760
missectomy the comedian me kept hearing a voice in my,

1903
01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:19.880
head you should do a show. Topless you should do

1904
01:57:19.960 --> 01:57:22.600
a show. Topless AND i was, LIKE i can't do

1905
01:57:22.720 --> 01:57:26.439
a show, Topless materio. Said she added that the idea

1906
01:57:26.840 --> 01:57:30.760
kept popping in the point WHERE i was. Distracted every

1907
01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:33.880
TIME i was, Performing i'd be, LIKE i should take

1908
01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:36.119
my shirt. OFF i should take my shirt. Off she

1909
01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:38.920
was worried that it would seem like she was just, Saying,

1910
01:57:39.239 --> 01:57:42.920
Hey i'm trying to milk, something so to, speak in

1911
01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:46.560
her dry tone like, way beyond.

1912
01:57:46.319 --> 01:57:50.159
The fact that she had her. Surgery but then she, thought,

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01:57:50.399 --> 01:57:54.680
no this is. Relevant even way down the. Road she

1914
01:57:54.800 --> 01:57:55.079
did in.

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01:57:55.159 --> 01:57:58.319
Fact do a show, topless but she didn't say anything

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01:57:58.399 --> 01:58:01.119
to the audience about her. Scar she just took her

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01:58:01.159 --> 01:58:04.319
shirt off and continued the. Act in the middle of the,

1918
01:58:04.399 --> 01:58:05.960
SHOW i took my shirt off.

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01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:07.239
And didn't acknowledge.

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01:58:07.239 --> 01:58:11.439
IT i, Thought, oh that's what funny is, about talking

1921
01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:14.840
about airplane, travel which is the least respective comedy topic

1922
01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:19.159
within comedian. Conversations AND i, thought that'll be. Great i'll

1923
01:58:19.239 --> 01:58:21.880
do hacky material with my shirt off and reveal my

1924
01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:26.960
misectamy scars and won't acknowledge, it and that WAY i

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01:58:27.079 --> 01:58:31.720
can make a, statement make it, funny. Hopefully nataro, continued

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01:58:32.199 --> 01:58:35.239
she wasn't comfortable for a while after my, surgery but

1927
01:58:35.359 --> 01:58:37.680
then she came to think about it. Differently THEN i,

1928
01:58:37.800 --> 01:58:42.039
realized my scars just represent that my body has, healed she.

1929
01:58:42.279 --> 01:58:46.880
Continued so you, KNOW i think that's an incredibly brave

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01:58:47.760 --> 01:58:50.159
thing for her to, do AND i think it sends

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01:58:50.199 --> 01:58:52.279
a message to all the women out there who are

1932
01:58:52.359 --> 01:58:57.520
suffering through breast cancer and that had had misectamies that you,

1933
01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:01.920
know Take nataro just owned it and, said, hey this is.

1934
01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:04.399
Me this is what kind of like sha like Like

1935
01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:07.359
Captain kirk said In Star trek, FIVE i need my.

1936
01:59:07.640 --> 01:59:14.520
PAIN i stuck that in, there and, yeah that's. AWESOME i,

1937
01:59:14.680 --> 01:59:17.720
THINK i think that is. Great AND i have nothing

1938
01:59:17.800 --> 01:59:21.960
but but admiration For.

1939
01:59:22.159 --> 01:59:26.079
TIGNATARO i think she's an incredible. WOMAN i think she's

1940
01:59:26.119 --> 01:59:28.760
a great, actress AND i think it takes heart and

1941
01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:32.560
soul to do, that AND i, COME i JUST i

1942
01:59:32.680 --> 01:59:38.119
can't SAY I i commemorate her tremendously for doing that

1943
01:59:38.319 --> 01:59:41.079
and being part of Our Star trek family to. Boot

1944
01:59:41.199 --> 01:59:44.960
so thank you To, tignataro and, that believe it brings

1945
01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:45.560
us right up.

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To the two hour. Mark.

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Wow.

1948
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Incredible so next week we are going to be talking

1949
01:59:52.680 --> 01:59:57.439
about the Cancelation Starfleet academy and season two being the final.

1950
01:59:58.079 --> 02:00:02.560
Season so please if you're, interested check that. Out it's

1951
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going to be a lot of. Fun and as, always,

1952
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guys we keep it civil.

1953
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Here we don't fight.

1954
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Argue people are allowed to have their, opinions AND i

1955
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think that's what Makes Chreck talking And beyond such an awesome,

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Go SO i think that's why our page is so.

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Successful, Anyways i'm your most excellent, Host Uncle, jim AND

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1962
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for hanging out and trek talking with, us but he

1963
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1965
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1967
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Us thank, You, Charles thank you it was always a fun.

1968
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Conversation and thank you to v for hanging out.

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Nice, sure, YEAH i know, again just showed up in

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the mail, randomly you, know.

1971
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It just got.

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There and thank you so much To david for hanging

1973
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out and trek talking with us and making these awesome videos.

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Possible, yeah it's been.

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Fun can't wait till next. WEEK i got lots to talk.

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Tell, you, guys if you're not seeing these awesome videos

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That david puts together and you hear us talking about you,

1979
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1992
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1993
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2004
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2005
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Prosper Mister, SULU i had warm walk war Boo sir

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Out there.

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That a. Way m h, okay we're