Feb. 27, 2026

Episode 674- Starfleet Academy " Come, Let's Away" Review

Episode 674- Starfleet Academy " Come, Let's Away" Review
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In this episode, of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and his crew explore the intense and emotional story of Starfleet Academy's episode 'Come Let's Away'. We delve into character development, plot twists, and the deeper themes of sacrifice, trust, and the dangers lurking in space. Join us for a detailed analysis and fan reactions as we explore the latest in Star Trek news, celebrate iconic birthdays, and delve into theories about the series' mysteries. Share insights on recent episodes, character developments, and the future of Star Trek on Paramount Plus.
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Day Welcome Evening, Trek Eas and Trek is around the globe.

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It's Thursday, February twenty sixth twenty twenty six. Welcome to

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episode six hundred and seventy four of Trek Talking and Beyond.

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I'm your most Texant host, Uncle Jim. How are you

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doing tonight? And as usual, we have a very fun,

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very exciting, very titulating show. Yes I said titulating show

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plan for you guys tonight. But before we started gitulation situation,

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I've never been telling you before. Well, we're gonna We're

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gonna be titulating.

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You say, somebody buys me dinner after.

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I like it every now and then it is delightful.

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Before we get titulated. We want to find who we're getting.

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We want to find we want to go titulating. Now

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we're gonna Portland. How you doing tonight?

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I'm in a much better mood now than I was

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five minutes ago. That was That was a great opening. Yeah,

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I'm doing pretty good.

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Uh yeah, very excited for this podcast tonight.

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You feel titulated, don't you? You're good man?

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You are, of course, of course, I no, I do,

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I do.

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Yeah. And also when we have our very local worker himself, David,

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how you doing tonight? David?

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I'm doing pretty good. But I think you said picolating.

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That was ilated.

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I'm doing pretty good.

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Also from Portland. We're sticking with the theme there we

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were hurting all toy.

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How why Jim, I'm here at the satellite office of

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the Federation mispronunciation account for our blisters at home. Just

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want you the wrong idea. It's totilating. There is no

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U sound in that word, ever was, nor will there

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ever be.

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There's also the titular which you know, so you come.

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Well, that's like if I said regards.

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My favorite words.

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So that's what i's.

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We're reinventing, reinventing the English language on a regular basis.

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After the reason I'm here human.

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It's never no moment.

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Ask Jim to say any word that starts with an H.

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Fine.

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You know you can't have an international audience. How many

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make a drinking hailec.

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So I am doing great, glad to be here this

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week and everything.

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I missed you too. I would have much rather been

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doing this than being ill.

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So yeah, last week was an interesting week and I'll

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just I'll leave it. And the last but not least

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we had with a char Las Vegas A doing tonight, Charles.

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I'm doing good. You'll notice I'm in the studio b

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and enjoying the nice sunshine and the weather.

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I see the pond tree gently swaying behind you. I'm

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looking out my window. You can see the snowflakes gently

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floating to the ground. I just want them to milk

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and go away.

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I was gonna sit there and really make Jim upset

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when I say, oh, we only had our first eight

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degree day of the season today.

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so what's the heat? So shore Aways, guys, I have

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mentioned that we had a very tituating show for you tonight,

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so not as'll look at that leader. So we definitely

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are going to have our fans shovels and that's where

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we go along the global Thanks fans just like you

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right there for listening to this podcast. We also have

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our Cadet review and fan reactions and Charles will be

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doing our Cadet review and Eric will be doing our

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fan reactions and scores of this week's episode. And what

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birthdays do you share our birthday with? On our sci

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five birthdays? We have some really good ones on tonight's list,

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and what's going on around the Star Trek universe. We

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have a brand new shout to say is what and

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oh my god, a gay kling On say it isn't

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so stop the presses. Un believable story there. So we're

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gonna have a lot of fun, but our big story

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is our episode. We're going to be talking about Starfleet

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Academy Episode six, Come Let's Away. So that's what we

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have planned for you guys tonight. And yeah, so you

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this week as well to roll Backer from Belgium, Live

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Long and Prosper, sending us the sort of cool sunglasses

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he is setting us the Livelong and Prosper a little

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a story to that. Hugo, please leave us a two

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Right V Yes, yep, exactly. So oh it's my turn. Sorry.

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Saying hello to Susan Harvey, who says I'm from Iowa.

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I just work in outer space, and then she's not

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total not actually from Iowa. And that, of course is

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a line from my favorite Star Trek Star Trek four,

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the one with the whales, Star Trek.

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Four and next.

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And I meant to look up this pronunciation, so I apologize,

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Alex d repenting.

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Yeah, sorry, I'm so sorry.

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Anyway, it's a beautiful last name that I cannot pronounce

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because I'm you know, hopeless from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. So

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hello to you, our neighbor to the north. I want

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to visit one of these days.

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Anyway.

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Hello to Shane Edward Rogers, who's from Pears, Tennessee currently.

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And then lastly have Kevin Hurdle, who says started as

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a tos three year old from p Funk and what

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is that emoji with the well that's like a okay,

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all right, yeah, New Jersey has since lived around the

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world as a veteran, thank you for your servicer, now

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the Cosmos, being an amateur astronomer, and he's got a

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little telescope and of course the live long and prosper

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all right, So on to Charles.

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Oh, thank you, she's sorry, thank you. V Let's start

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out to Warren. Welcome to rory Ingalls. Actually I'm from Iowa,

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not far from Riverside. Interesting the fact that the app

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works are using is Riverside, so maybe the maybe riversidees

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in Riverside. Welcome to Donne Donnie Brady from West Virginia.

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Welcome Donnie from Newport Beach, California. Welcome Linda Stanley Owen

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who now lives in Texas since nineteen seventy one, and

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from Tucky. Michael Haynes. Welcome Michael Paul, who's on your list.

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I passed you the microphone, the megaphone.

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Nika Charles, I appreciate that, sir. First of all, we're

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going to leave these United not quite the United States,

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and to head ourselves over to Europe for a bit.

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We're going to go to lovely enchanting Italia, Milanohiroma to

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our dear friend Ana Maria Bebelacua. Oh, what a name.

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I love that, anam Maria.

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Admits, unfortunately the transporter doesn't work. But if you're up

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in Milano, Anna Maria, I'm guessing maybe you had a

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front row seat for the Winter Olympics. These last couple

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of weeks, so it's been pretty crazy with wolf dogs

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running on the track and all kinds of nonsense going on.

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So I hope you were able to enjoy that you

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live in a spectacular corner of the cosmos. So thanks

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for checking in with us. It's good to hear from

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anybody who lives in the UK. We have a lot

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of UK fans that chime in every now and then.

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And this is Nathan James Bolton lives in a place

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called Ellesmere Port on a little peninsula called the We're

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all in United Kingdom. I'm gonna have to look that

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up in all kinds of obscure little corners and two

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dads there that we're intrigued with. It's very situlating to

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hear all of these different places, isn't it?

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Friends?

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Keeping it in the UK. We're gonna go say hello

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to a good old friend who's a Jordan. Now, I

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don't know if that's not Jordie la Forge. Those of

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you who aren't English probably don't know what our good

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friend Kieren Harlan's talking about. But if you're not well,

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you know, look up what a Jordan is. Then a

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whole different way of speaking and it's very interesting. But

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Kieren's a Jeordie Trekky from Newcastle.

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On Tyne in England.

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So great to hear from you, Kieran, and wonderful that

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you are letting us have it. So good to hear

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from you. Stay in touch. And in Catalonia. In miquel

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it is a Michael fonta Wa who is saying hello

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to us. Another wonderful smell of the world. I've got

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some friends vacationing just down the road from you this week,

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so I hope they aren't causing too much mischief over there, Miguel,

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but hopefully they're being polite and minding their business. So

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I just like seeing that we have so many fans

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of the show and of Star Trek that are across

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the entire globe makes us feel like we're a little

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bit more connected because God knows we can use some

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of that. Isn't that right? Well, go ahead, uncle Jim,

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if you will titulate us, titulate us.

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We are beyond titulation on this podcast. Let me tell

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you people, titulation is just way beyond where we are

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right now. So I want to say thank you so

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much to Nancy le pier Telez, who's listening to us

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right now in Michigan. Thank you so much, Nancy. We

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appreciate it. I also want to say hello and thank

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you to Bella Donna Graves, who's listening to us in

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New Hampshire, Oh, probably about forty five minutes to an

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hour from where I am, so thank you for listening

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to our podcast. I also want to say hello and

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thank you to Rita and Tommy Bella Donna is that

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the Dolla from Arizona. And last but not least, I

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want to say hello and thank you to Jason Morgan,

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who's from the Divided States of America. Interesting. So that

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wraps up our fan shout outs for tonight. Guys. If

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next podcast. So please please please do that. And that

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now it's time to move into our debt training with

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this week's episode of Star Trek and lets you guys

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know how that relates to other Star Trek episodes in

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the franchise. So Child, take it away, buddy.

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I don't know if we're gonna get that titulated, but

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we're gonna try. Didn't find as much in this episode,

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but I didn't find a few that got me started.

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TNG Unification Part one, season five, episode seven. I think

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that's the first time, and I think there might be

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a reference in the animated series of a ship graveyard.

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Enterprise visits a uh looking for somebody stealing romulent parts.

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Trying to deal with that Romula invasion and Unification and

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our enemies that we saw on this one. The one

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that came to mind Erica like this one is voyager

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loved trying to take people's body parts is incorporate into

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their bodies.

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Tom Parris. I think a pair of holographs Lolix, Oh, Felix.

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enemy Voyager Scorpion Part one, season three, episode twenty six.

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Despite the significant ethical compromise, Jane Wayne makes a tactical

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alliance with the board. She offers them a weapon to

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using a specie is eight four seven to two in

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exchange for a secure safe passage. How to sit there

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and deal with the enemy. And the one that I

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thought kind of fit in with this one short Treks

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Calypso season one, episode two, a ship stuck in the

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future dealing with its past. And the ship did remind

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me of the Calypso because it had long missed its crew,

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and I think, what's getting lonely? Except the ship didn't

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realize it was lonely because it didn't realize that the

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crew was gone. So I think Paul would love to

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talk about this episode.

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you a little bit of a summary. It's a background

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on the particular episode in case you forgot since you

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last saw it, so it can be helpful and just

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a phrase you hear very often in shakespeare plays. The

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tone here shifts dramatically from the lighter academic setting of

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the Academy to a little darker and more high stake

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survival story in this episode starts off with a joint

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training mission. So we have chancellors Ake and kel rec

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Academy and the War College where cadets board the USS Miyazaki.

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It's a century old derelic ship that originally got out

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of commission due to a failure of its experimental singularity

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drive that failed. Now that Miyazaki is named after a

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legendary Japanese animator and filmmaker Yao Miyazaki, co founder of

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Studio Ghibli, Hopefully some folks are familiar with his work.

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If not, you have a lot to discover. My neighbor, Totoro,

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all kinds of great stuff, Princess Mononoke. Now, within the

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show's lore of this episode, the early missions of the

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Miyazaki and its commander, Captain She, were so legendary that

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they inspired a comic book series called Tales from the Frontier,

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and the episode title itself come Let's Away. In addition

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to being like a Shakespeare line, it's kind of a

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tip of the hat to the very ending of Spirited

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Away there, so I thought it was very definitely done.

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had commanded the Miyazaki. It was a thirty first century

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Constitution class vessel ed this prototype Singularity drive, but there

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was some kind of a catastrophic failure and the entire

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crew was killed. Yet this is a little thing when

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I scratched my head a bit. Despite being a derelict

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ship for over a century, the ship is still mostly

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intact and becomes like a classroom for these joint training exercises.

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being a spooky environment. But apparently it just got rid

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of the people and didn't damage the ship. So very interesting.

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to the Miyazaki's adventures is paramount within the show, so

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I wanted to make sure we get that out there

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early so folks can reference it. The adventures were fictionalized

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in this comic book series. When we see it on screen,

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Captain she and her crew are wearing very similar old

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school twenty third century Starfleet uniforms I could see on

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the original series Strange new worlds, and obviously they're in

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a Constitution class ship and this will become more important later.

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comic that the cadets used to save themselves out of

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a sticky situation with the aboufunctioning computer on the Miyazaki,

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so someone can chat more about that later. A lot

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of the focus of this comic is from the Vulcan

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cadet Bobby from the War College, right, who has been

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a lot lifelong fan of this comic series.

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He credits Tales for the Frontiers being his primary inspiration

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for joining the War College, calling the stories a beacon

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enough hope in darker times. And it's really interesting to

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hear Caleb Mirror's very cynical reaction to that. He doesn't

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see it that way at all. He calls the comic

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book federation propaganda, feel good colonizing bullshit. That's so it's like,

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I like that not everyone has the same point of

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view towards things. It's where it's nostalgia for Bobby, not

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so much for Caleb, and the comic will have a

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very poignant depiction later on in the episode, but we

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don't have to talk about that right now. His training

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mission suddenly becomes all too real when the uh, this

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race called the Furies are like a cannibalistic alien humanoid race.

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They ambush the Miyazaki in the middle of this training

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exercise and take all the cadet hostage, right, So they're

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desperate to save them, right, So Ake and Admiral Vance

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get together and they figured the only way to do

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this is no somebody who has got some familiarity with

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the situation with the Furies is imprisoned news Braka, Right,

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we haven't really seen since the pilot because he has

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knowledge of the Furies and has dealt with them before.

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So they work out a deal to sort of temporarily

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spring him for his help, you know. Strange Bedfellows type situation. Now,

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I want to mention the Furies. Charles mentioned the Phage earlier,

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but the Furies originally debuted in a series of crossover books.

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There was a four part crossover book called Star Trek

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Invasion novel series in the mid nineties, right there was

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original series, Next Gen, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager, and

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in these novels there was an ancient collection of non

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humanoid species that once ruled the Alpha Quadrant before they

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were exiled to the Delta Quadrant. So we actually get

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these creatures the Furies from that series of books. Just

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wanted to throw that out there. They're very similar to

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the Reavers. Any Firefly fans out there, they're a lot

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like the Reavers, kind of feral, cannibalistic space marauders. I

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think it's a tip of the hat also to the

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baseball Fury from the Warriors as well. And they have

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this weird optical blurring effect when they move, so they

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almost look like they're transpatial and displaced in time. As

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things go on, it gets to be pretty dicey, and

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got to talk about the elephant in the room. There's

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a little tragic foreshadowing when Bobby says, as a famous

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officer once said, the needs of the many outweigh the

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needs of the fume or the one. And it's crazy

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that that happens because our good friend the Vulcan War

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College cadet. He is killed by the Furies, sacrificing himself

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to save Caleb Miir. So it's kind of an ironic

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reference there to a spot from Wrath con Bobby not

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really realizing that he was destined to follow in his

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own footsteps as a self sacrificing Vulcan as well. So

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really really sad, but it had quite a bit of

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a poignancy I think in that episode there, and if

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he hadn't done it, if he hadn't made the sacrifice,

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Tarima would not have been able to use Caleb as

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a psychic conduit to unleash that mental blast that finally

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defeated the Furies right by removing her inhibitor implant, unleashing

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the full psychic powers of her betazoid you know, mental

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prowess at the Furies. It's such an intense thing for

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her that she's actually left in a coma after that.

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One of the War College staff, I think his name

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is Commander Tomov, I want to say, is killed by

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the Furies after a failed escape attempt. We do get

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a little bit more of nala Ake's backstory during a

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series of very intense kind of Hanni electricallyise Starling encounters

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with news Brakka, whereas a lot of Paul Giamatti, again

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really chewing the scenery quite dramatically, getting pretty vitriolic in

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his portrayal, a lot of anachronistic dialogue finding its way

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in there. But we find out that Ake's father was

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a Lantonite and that she's had grief over her son,

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who she had to choose to let die during the

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burn to ensure CRU's survival, news Braca double crosses everybody.

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He uses his situation as the whole situation with these

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idiots to draw the Federation defenses away as like a

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decoy so that he can get access to this classified

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weapons out post, which he then raids for experimental technology.

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So Braca escapes basically with what he wanted. He's the

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Quadrants most wanted man. And his parting shot to Nala

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Ake is that his hatred for her has done him

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a favor because it's made him sharper and better at

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his job. So a pretty scathing departure from of increasingly

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loathsome nemesis to the good guy. So that's kind of

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where we have in terms of all the good core stuff.

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I think we need to know to effectively talk about

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this episode, but before we do, what's always interesting and

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also quite revealing is what did our fans have to

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say about this episode? And I could think of no

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one better suited to take us through this opinionated Rasthmeatas

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than our good friend Eric Eric. What happened? What do

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people think of this? What are the ratings?

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Thanks very much, Paul Well.

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Rick Carter's going to start us off this week and

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he gave a solid nine. This was the Infinity War

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episode of SFA. Despite coming close to win, our protagonists

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are dealt a stunning loss and the villain gets elevated

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to a much more serious threat. Great acting all around,

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but Hunter and Giamatti are riveting. Thanks Rick. Raf Copeland

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said ten out of ten. The Furies were scary, but

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Giamatti really filled me with dread even is he even

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as I was impressed with his cunning So yeah, I agree.

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Raybel Scott Smith said a solid nine with an exclamation point.

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The best episode of this series so far.

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Although the Brocas story all starts in episode one, Giamatti

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eats up the screen as news Braca one of the

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best trek villains in a long time. Keep bringing it

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with lots of emojis. Thanks Scott Jason Cook eight point five.

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That ending set a great tone for the rest of

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the season. Time for the newbies to grow up and

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take this seriously. Paul g and Holly h are amazing together.

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Best actor duo ever in Star Trek.

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Thank you.

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Jason Ellen Silber gave it a nine. I think they

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are hitting their stride. Good characters, good scripts, formidable enemies.

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I really enjoyed it. I think they could go so

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many places from here. I'm glad this Star Trek is

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out there. I never realized the burn crippled the Federation

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to the extent that they are showing. It really will

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be interesting to see where they go from here. Thanks Ellen.

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Craig Matthewson said it was really good. Ten out of ten.

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No diversity preaching, no Klingons frocks, no agender promotion, just

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good story driven sci fi. A case of giving the

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people what they want. I had to pick this one

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because this dude truly missed the point that must be referenced.

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To some other things.

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Greg was hoping for more bitcoin.

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I think, well, there you go, because.

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He gave it to reason.

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Like, well you got there anyway, I guess yeah, definitely.

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All right, but still we we do respect all opinions,

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so thanks Craig. Trish Goodkin gave it a ten with

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an exclamation point. Stunning episode. I put it right up

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there with the best of them. Every single sentence and

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Tricia's thing had an exclamation point, so I think Trish

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was very enthusiastic about her review.

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Thank you.

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Richard Bruce guess what a ten? Why they kill Bobby

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though through the teacher out the airlock. That teacher was

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so cool. I wanted him and Bobby to live really

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changed how Cadet life can be carefree to life threatening serious.

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Thanks Richard.

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Noel t Seville said, the best episode of the series

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so far. It touches emotions in all levels. Nine out

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00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.519
of ten. Lynn Waters ten loved it. I'm sad they

476
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.960
killed the vulcan student. I really liked his character.

477
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:41.440
And E. B.

478
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:46.160
Woodward said this was a solid eight. Trek is back,

479
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.400
and if you were keeping track, and I know you were,

480
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.000
you will note that that equates to a fan score

481
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.799
this week of nine point three, which is kind of

482
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.519
like almost more than our system can handle. It's it's

483
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:08.519
real close to the edge. So yeah, let's talk about the.

484
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:12.880
Episode absolutely and I'll tell you a what since uh,

485
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:17.000
since V wasn't with us last week, let's starting with

486
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.640
with with these Yeah, take on the episode.

487
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:25.279
Well overall, it was once it got past okay, I didn't.

488
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:31.400
I found the first scene with Caleb and I always

489
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:36.279
forget her name there yeah there, Uh yeah, Hearina, thank

490
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:41.039
you where they are engaged in you know, activities.

491
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:42.599
Uh, that was.

492
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.799
I don't know, I just I just found it. I

493
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:47.160
don't know.

494
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:50.400
I just didn't like it for some odd reason. I

495
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:55.039
did find it interesting when she went into his mind,

496
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.039
in Caleb's mind by accident, and he said, don't ever

497
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:04.279
do that. And I might have forgotten that she had

498
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:08.599
to have a an inhibitor because she had like her

499
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.799
brother had said, she was such a She was an

500
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:16.880
unusual betazoid, which reminds me of Tam Eldren, who was

501
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.680
in the TNG episode ten Man, where he could hear

502
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:25.119
everybody at once and you know Dianna. She had been

503
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.599
friends with Deanna and he just he just couldn't handle it.

504
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:30.200
He just.

505
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:35.480
Was had I guess his betazoid powers were too powerful.

506
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:42.640
But that winds up of course, saving everybody. Poor thing

507
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.160
had to rip that out. I didn't realize what was

508
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:46.680
in her hand at first.

509
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:47.519
But it's like, oh.

510
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:49.720
Yeah.

511
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:54.480
The Furies are are terrifying, just especially the way they

512
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:59.039
have that that visual effect where they're like bring out.

513
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.640
So it took me a little bit. It's really kind

514
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:04.720
of hard to see what they exactly look like, but

515
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:06.799
I don't think I want to see them close up

516
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:14.839
because they're terrifying. Plus they're also cannibalistic, so Braca.

517
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.039
Of course, Paul.

518
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.039
Giamatti doing you know what he does best and being

519
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.039
a totally repulsive villain.

520
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:24.559
Which is good.

521
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:24.920
You know.

522
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.119
The one thing I had to laugh at when he's

523
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.359
drinking whatever beverage.

524
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:31.759
That was when he's meeting with ak.

525
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:37.279
Did anybody else flash back to that movie that he

526
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:41.680
did in Wine Country called Sideways where he's drinking the

527
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:48.440
wine and I just expected him to take a spitbucket,

528
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.319
but just the way he's swishing it around, which was

529
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:56.039
just funny. And of course, like I said earlier, when

530
00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:00.240
he's talking about the Furies, and I just I'm so sorry,

531
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.359
I just I'm easily amused.

532
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.920
I giggled when he said.

533
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:09.240
That they spooge all over people, and that was but

534
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.799
going with uh, you know what Paul had said, there's

535
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:18.880
a lot of there's still a lot of contemporary language

536
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.240
or like you know, dated language, I guess you could say.

537
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:26.720
And I don't quite understand that it's a little bit jarring,

538
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.680
you know, unless certain words are just you know, so

539
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:33.559
good they last for millennia.

540
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.519
I don't know. But it was.

541
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.920
Just overall very tense, and I thought, oh, you know,

542
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:45.359
I knew that they had to rescue everybody, but you know,

543
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.240
the Vulcan student that was sad. But you know, he

544
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.279
kind of did the Kirksboch thing there, I guess. But

545
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.759
I don't think he's going to be I don't think

546
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:01.000
he'll be brought back. But anyway, yeah, just seeing at

547
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:05.000
the very end, it's just so so chilling when Braca

548
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.679
tells uh okay that he's you know, he's not done

549
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.400
with her, and it just makes me wonder, you know,

550
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.559
what else could he what else could he do?

551
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.159
I don't I don't know if.

552
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.480
I want to know, but he almost makes Golda Kott

553
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:20.719
look like a choir boy.

554
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.800
So I will give it a I'll give it a

555
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:24.559
solid nine.

556
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:31.679
So there you go, that's that's a very situlating score,

557
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:32.639
how about you?

558
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:47.320
Okay. Definitely an interesting use of a real to life

559
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:51.480
away mission. Most of the time we go in and

560
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:56.119
do a lot of simulations. In this case, we're not

561
00:34:56.280 --> 00:35:00.440
doing an actual simulation simulation. We're actually going to an

562
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:06.679
actual ship attempting an actual away mission, and they're divided

563
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:12.199
into teams so they get sit there and deal with

564
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.159
having a real life situation. I think that is an

565
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:21.760
interesting way of taking the academy of saying, okay, we're

566
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.039
not going to put you through simulations. They could have

567
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:27.599
just put a holid deck and had them go through

568
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.719
holid deck. In this case, they didn't. They actually went

569
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.239
to a real ship and so we actually got to

570
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.360
see a real situation.

571
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:38.119
Now.

572
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.480
I thought interesting that we went to a derelict ship

573
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:43.920
that we thought, okay, it's a ship, they'll do the mission.

574
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.599
They had high expectation that they're going to do well

575
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:52.920
with this and finish the mission, and then all of

576
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.679
a sudden, we have those enemy ships, those enemies reappearing,

577
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.639
and it was interesting. As I said in my system,

578
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.679
I said, the v d N kind of reminded me

579
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.280
of them now that I think about Eric. I'll understand

580
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.360
when I say it reminds me also a little bit

581
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:22.960
of the silence that's a good doctor who reference that

582
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:26.960
those are enemies. Except when you accept those enemies, when

583
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.199
you turn around and stop looking at them, you forgot

584
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:39.360
to exist. But they themselves were a very scary race, but.

585
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.960
Not as much in the.

586
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:49.559
Dramatic drama in this episode as much as we deal

587
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:56.400
with a more serious topic of dealing with situation. As

588
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:02.599
the lieutenant commander was out the airlock and one of

589
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:07.920
the bridge crew started going to a panic attack and

590
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.679
having to have her remove from the bridge, It's like, okay,

591
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:16.960
that's a definite, real situation of dealing with how do

592
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:23.519
you deal with effect of people going like that and

593
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.519
how their used of having to fight against this enemy.

594
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.199
I thought it was a unique way of how they

595
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.519
did the fight where they kind of cued each other

596
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:39.199
and try to sit there and escape the enemy, except

597
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:42.679
that they gotten themselves caught on the bridge, leaving one

598
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:51.599
person behind, and then definitely the final battle where we

599
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:57.679
start losing people and the injuries, and I thought, interesting,

600
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:07.159
how are Bethazola just appears on the bridge and uses

601
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:14.199
her mental ability to sit there and create such a

602
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:21.360
sonic sound to disrupt the enemy, and I'm curious how

603
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:28.199
she disrupted the enemy in that process, but finally able

604
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:35.719
to rescue the crew, but losing it at least one person,

605
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:41.719
and I know Sam was partially injured. I'm not sure

606
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:50.599
to what extent, but definitely this one. As we were

607
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.760
a little talk chatting a little bit in the pre show,

608
00:38:53.440 --> 00:39:01.400
I'm almost saying, it's like, Okay, the coat and Kay win.

609
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.079
It's like you've got competition now, because I think he's

610
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:14.000
moving towards being the next hated Starfleet enemy because he's

611
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.320
I just kind of cringed it sort of his ending,

612
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:22.000
It's like, Okay, he thinks he's that great that he's

613
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.320
going to sit there and almost like he wants to

614
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:30.960
create the second Burn, which I feel could really sit

615
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:35.840
there and put everybody in turmoil, because I don't think

616
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.159
it would just be Starfleet. He could damage, He could

617
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:47.960
really harm the entire everybody. On this one, I think

618
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.360
I agree with the on this one. I go with

619
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:56.719
a good nine on this one.

620
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:01.920
Wow wow two nine. Well, let me see, I think

621
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:05.079
that I think that she was able if I remember correctly,

622
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:12.960
didn't Baka tell them that the frequency that would didn't

623
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.639
use some type of sonic frequency weapon to drive them

624
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:22.880
out of Sector one nineteen, I believe. And so Tarima knew,

625
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.280
you know, the frequency, because he told them, so I

626
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:28.119
think that's how she was. And there they are right there,

627
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.760
the theories are on the screen, So she knew. She

628
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.280
knew what frequency they were vulnerable to. So that's the

629
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:38.079
frequency that she used when she did her her Gene

630
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.320
gray sonic blast type of deal, So that's how she knew.

631
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:47.000
I thought it was really cool. Are you guys familiar

632
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.440
with the animated series. I know that you are. In

633
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.039
the animated series, they had a life support belt and

634
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.800
put a little field around their bodies. They used a

635
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.760
very similar thing in this episode. If you guys noticed

636
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:02.760
that little glowing blue or blue in this case, but

637
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.239
some of them were green emblem on their chest. They

638
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:08.079
just touched it and they put a corse field around

639
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.440
them that allowed them to breed. And I thought that

640
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:15.159
was a cool homiage to the animated series. So kudos

641
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:19.519
to them for doing that. That was awesome. The Furies, man,

642
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.280
I don't know what it is about the aliens that

643
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.840
they are bringing up on strange new worlds and now

644
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:29.400
on Starfleet Academy, but you know, on Strange New World,

645
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:33.599
the Gorn digest you to turn you into fuel for

646
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:37.159
their ships, and on Starfleet Academy, the Furies just eat

647
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:41.039
you alive, like walking dead zombies, and then what's left

648
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.119
of you they just shoot you out the airlocks. Terrifying

649
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:48.559
aliens really, you know, not safe to be in space.

650
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:52.599
It's pretty dangerous out there, and it's pretty obvious that

651
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:58.440
it is. Kudos for making a truly terrifying, dangerous race

652
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.840
that I would not want to run into. Were they

653
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.639
were they entered dimensional? Why were they flickering or like,

654
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.239
were they like living in two dimensions simultaneously explained?

655
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.599
So they don't explain it in the episode. And when

656
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:18.719
I do my review, I'm going to tell you the

657
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.719
payoff that I wanted on that that I didn't get.

658
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:26.760
Yeah, I just the way they were flickering, they seemed

659
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:27.960
to be I have.

660
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.320
An idea of like I had an idea right away

661
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.599
of who they were or what they were, and it

662
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:34.960
turned out that they didn't go that direction.

663
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:35.880
I was disappointed.

664
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.559
Yeah, So, I mean I thought they were a very interesting,

665
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.800
interesting race of aliens to stay a league that is

666
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.480
awesome to see the the hallways of the ship. What

667
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:50.480
the hell was to deal with that? They looked like

668
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:51.840
round garbage bags.

669
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.639
I was like, so, I think what you I was

670
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.519
confused about that too, Jim. But it's the very very

671
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.559
beginning of the thing, and I think what they did

672
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.079
was they actually it was like old school extend a

673
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.960
tube from one ship into the other, and so they

674
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.599
were inside the et tube until a Caleb could perform

675
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.000
his magic on the protomatter or whatever they're to open

676
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.559
the door and get inside the thing. So so that

677
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:19.679
was not inside the ship. That was like the low

678
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.440
plastic bubble that they were in between ships. And for

679
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.280
whatever reason, when he opened the ship, then the pressure

680
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.559
tunnel like depressurized or something, because that's when you see

681
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:32.119
their little plasma based life support system kind.

682
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:32.440
Of kick on.

683
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.599
Yeah. I just thought I thought, I'm like, wow, those

684
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:41.440
corridors are weird looking. But you know, it was it

685
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.079
was still cool. It was still it was still cool.

686
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.880
I really really liked this episode was like a coming

687
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.920
of age episode. I think that the Cadets had been

688
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.119
out partying at the bar last week and you know,

689
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.599
stuff like that, and this week it's a life or

690
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.639
death situation and they got broken up into boots on

691
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.119
the ground and boots on the ship. And I really thought, well,

692
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:08.119
that scene right there with Remy and Genesis on the

693
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.480
bridge of the ship, you know, solving the problem from

694
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.079
the bridge while the rest of the crew was on

695
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:18.000
the ship dealing with life and death. I thought was

696
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:24.280
it was an awesome moment where they all came they

697
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.400
discovered themselves there in ourselves, what they were capable of,

698
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.599
and how to work together as a team. And I

699
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:33.239
thought that was awesome team building and I thought it

700
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.760
was great to see that, especially Genesis. I think she's

701
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:38.920
going to be a really good commander. And I think

702
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:43.320
that Remy really worked well with her too, because he

703
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.800
took a back seat to her. He wasn't in competition

704
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:48.519
with her at that point. They worked in tandem as

705
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:51.119
a team, and they were able to solve the problem

706
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.880
and save the crew. So that was an awesome, awesome scene.

707
00:44:54.920 --> 00:45:00.199
I thought, what else, Yeah, I was laughing when uh,

708
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.639
when Rock was on the bridge betting about the cadets

709
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:06.800
and she lost after she was bagging about how she

710
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.239
was going to win and she lost, and then she said,

711
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:14.800
I'm being great, you know. I was just a little,

712
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:19.679
a little late moment that the scene at the beginning

713
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:24.880
with Tarima and uh Caleb, I thought it was I

714
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:26.840
agree with the I thought it was a little longer

715
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:31.199
than it needed to be. First of all, it didn't

716
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.480
bother me. What bothered me is what's going wrong with them?

717
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:38.119
You know, two white people in dead together. Get rid

718
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.599
of that. That's too old. We can't be having that.

719
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:48.800
But seriously, I thought that it was. I thought it

720
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:54.519
was tastefully It was tastefully done, and I thought, you know,

721
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:58.840
it wasn't just it wasn't just a rake of rolling

722
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.519
in the south with the woman of the week type

723
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.119
of deal. I mean, I got the it felt like,

724
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.320
you know, the way the scene was shot and the

725
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.519
way it was acted, that these were two young people

726
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.880
that really were in love with each other. And I

727
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:18.360
thought that was refreshing to see myself, and the fact

728
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:22.360
that she accidentally entered his mind, and then you know,

729
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.519
the fight that they had over that. I thought it was,

730
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.280
you know, really well ated and well played and has

731
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:34.000
three percussions later on, So I thought that was well done.

732
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:41.559
What else? Oh yeah, Jayden? Jayden and his boyfriend. So

733
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:45.360
I understand that Jaden is a pacifist, and that's all

734
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.760
cool and wonderful and whatnot. And you know, I'm done

735
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.519
with that. Wharf was a pacifist too, but that didn't

736
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:55.800
stop them from beheading a feringhi on a Wednesday, so

737
00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:00.000
you know, And he did say in the very first step,

738
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:01.960
so that a klingon doesn't let a friend go into

739
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:03.920
battle alone. But if a klingon's not going to go

740
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:05.599
into battle and he's going to hang out with his

741
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.920
boyfriend and tend to his leg while the rest of

742
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.119
his friends are being killed, is he really a klingon?

743
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:12.440
I mean, it just it didn't make sense.

744
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.119
That's like, that's like asking if a combat medic is

745
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:15.920
really a soldier.

746
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.559
You know, No, I don't think so.

747
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:21.440
I think it's.

748
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.880
I don't think it is, because it's.

749
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.119
Exactly the same. It's exactly the same. He's got a

750
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:29.960
duty to perform and if he's injured, now he's going

751
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.480
to go against his ethics and everything else to.

752
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:38.320
That's yeah. Now, the vaultan guy was was was murdered.

753
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:41.760
The other people were in danger, and this guy had

754
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.400
a paper cut on his leg, and rather than trying

755
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:50.840
to save his friends, he was not there. So I

756
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:58.440
was like, Okay, I suppose that's cool. What else Sam

757
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.159
getting shot with the I don't know what kind of

758
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.840
weapons they were using. They weren't phasers, they were something else.

759
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:10.079
And uh because the last time Sam got shot the

760
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:13.119
phaser went right through her. It didn't effective. But this

761
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.079
particular weapon, I guess short.

762
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.840
Circuit disruptor of you know, photons and force fields.

763
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:26.719
Yeah, it really messes her up. And because I thought

764
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:31.039
she couldn't be damaged by phaser, she was so even

765
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.519
she was in danger. I also thought it was cool

766
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:38.119
how they used the comic book to Save to talk

767
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:41.760
the ship into realizing that the crew was gone and

768
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:43.920
the day were the new crew. They actually had a

769
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.199
digital copy of the comic book. I thought that was

770
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:50.119
neat The book still exists in the future too, that's cool,

771
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:58.440
you know. Yeah. So overall, I'm gonna go with I'm

772
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.480
gonna go with my fellow trucks Berts go with a

773
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.159
nine on this one. I thought. I thought it was

774
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:08.079
very well written, a lot of action, a lot of danger,

775
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:12.239
and very well, very well acted, very well played. I'm

776
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.599
gonna go with a nine. How about you, David.

777
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:18.400
Here?

778
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:21.559
Yeah, so I.

779
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.960
Think you guys touched point on a lot of the

780
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.000
stuff that I wanted to talk about, but that's okay.

781
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:27.679
I mean, I can still talk about a little bit.

782
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:32.400
I do agree with you, Jim that the the structure

783
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.239
would probably use or whatever type of weapon they used

784
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:40.199
to disable Sam might have been the region why she

785
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:46.800
wounded and that a regular phaser would go through. Another

786
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:50.440
thing is the beginning got out of hand really quick,

787
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:53.199
coming that turned into a radar film right there, So

788
00:49:53.239 --> 00:50:00.280
I was like, whoa, I didn't really enjoy that scene.

789
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:05.079
But other than that, let's see, I actually really enjoyed

790
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:10.400
Paul Giamatti's acting in this one. Virtus his first appearance,

791
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:14.400
which was episode one. I thought he did a really

792
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:20.920
good job and stayed on point about what he was planning.

793
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:24.280
To be honest, I've watched this episode twice already, and

794
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:27.960
it kind of actually got me. I did not see

795
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.840
that twist coming at the end. I thought that twist

796
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.559
was actually pretty good and it surprised me. So I

797
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:36.400
was like, huh, okay, that's pretty cool. So then I

798
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.559
had watched it a second time just to refresh my

799
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:45.079
memory for today. So but yeah, the other thing, I

800
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:49.679
thought Holly Hunter did a really good job. I mean

801
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.000
those two kind of like clicked together. I thought they

802
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:56.599
did a really excellent job in acting with the whole

803
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:01.840
situation and whatnot, but with one particular part I didn't

804
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.639
really enjoy well. That I thought was kind of weird

805
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.440
that what happened because right after the admiral disappeared in

806
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.199
her quarters, I think that's where they were. How come

807
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.559
there was no other guard in there with her to

808
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.159
prevent him from attacking her. I thought that was a

809
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.039
little strange. I was like, what happened to the guard?

810
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.320
If this guy is supposed to be so dangerous, why

811
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.000
is she there alone with him? I was like, that

812
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:28.039
didn't make sense. So to me, I thought that was

813
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:32.760
a little strange, but the acting shouted off, excuse me,

814
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:40.320
short off for me. The whole idea of her uh

815
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:47.880
de baby Joy, what's her name again? Toma? I thought

816
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:52.119
that story plot was interesting. I mean, it was kind

817
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.480
of coming. Anybody could guess that she was going to

818
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.199
have to use her powers eventually, because any kind of

819
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:02.679
inhibitor that they used for anybody's gonna get released one

820
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:04.639
way or another. There's gonna be a climax at the

821
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.719
end somehow. So I had a feeling and even from

822
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.760
the very beginning when we first saw her with that,

823
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.239
when she talked about how powerfulk she were, and I

824
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:17.159
was like, Okay, they're gonna use that eventually. So but

825
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:23.440
the idea that she screamed like that in the frequencies,

826
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.159
I thought that was already done. I thought there was

827
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.480
gonna be a bone two point zero coming. I was like, uh,

828
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.840
hare come. But I guess it was just to kill

829
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:37.920
off the bad guys, which I guess she's But overall,

830
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.840
there's just something about this particular episode I just felt

831
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:47.000
like the cadets really knew too much of what to do.

832
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:49.960
I mean the fact that they killed off this guy

833
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:53.280
right here on the screen super fast, because she was

834
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:55.840
supposed to be like their teacher in a way, and

835
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:59.280
I was just like, there's just something about that particular

836
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.280
thing why they could them off so soon. And then

837
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.320
they killed off the Vulcan guy too. I didn't really

838
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:10.199
enjoy too much because the fact that they supposed to

839
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:14.920
be college kids learning how to train and to be

840
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:19.400
star Fleet officers, I just felt like they they were

841
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:24.320
given too much, like they already knew how to do

842
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.400
it type of thing. So, I mean, I don't know,

843
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:28.400
that's just the way I read it, but it just

844
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:31.519
felt like they just got out of that situation pretty

845
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:35.159
quickly to me, so I was just like, oh, well,

846
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:38.719
the bad guys were pretty scary. I have to admit

847
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:43.119
I can't wait to hear what Eric said about his

848
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.880
opinion about how they phased. But I actually I have

849
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:51.480
no idea who those cruisers could be, because honestly, I'm

850
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:54.920
just like they introduced a new alien. The twist I

851
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.840
mentioned was really surprising because now they were working with

852
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.400
Paul Dumoti, which I thought was really cool. But at

853
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.000
the same time, it was just like, I hope they

854
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.719
really explained them in the next episode or two, because

855
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:10.679
I'm hoping to get some sort of backstory about them.

856
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:16.119
But other than that, Yeah, but other than that, this

857
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:20.199
episode actually surprised me, so I'm actually wowed by it.

858
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:22.199
So I'm actually gonna be up there with you guys.

859
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:26.519
So I'm actually giving this one. I'm eight point live

860
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:29.039
just because there was a little things here and there,

861
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:33.440
but yeah, this particular episode, it was it kind of

862
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.079
got me a show. YEP, eight point five.

863
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.440
Not too bad, not too bad. We want to jump

864
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:43.920
the box.

865
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.199
I really want to hear what Eric has to say, so,

866
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:49.760
if you don't mind, I'll just wait. And I don't

867
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:51.400
have a lot to add from what I said earlier,

868
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:52.639
so I could just jump out at the end, but

869
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:54.519
I think as a courtesy we should let er go.

870
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:59.119
Sure, thanks Paul. Yeah, so I kind of agree with

871
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.519
what David was just saying. Wherein the stakes in this

872
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:03.920
episode were really high. You could tell right from the

873
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:06.199
beginning that this was going to be a different kind

874
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.119
of episode, that it was going to be a little

875
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.000
bit of a darker tone by the end of it.

876
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.719
When the episode was over, I watched it with my

877
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:16.519
wife and we kind of looked at each other and

878
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:22.360
we both were like, that was kind of a downer. Yeah,

879
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:27.000
so just an interesting turn given that I have been

880
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:31.400
touting how light and like optimistic Starfleet Academy has been

881
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:34.079
so far, and this one felt more like that first

882
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.599
episode of Discovery where we were all like, holy shit,

883
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:42.880
this is new Star Trek. So, you know, I'll just

884
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:46.280
make my own brief comment on the opening scene. Caleb

885
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.440
and Tarima personally doesn't bother me one bit. They were

886
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:54.000
talking stuff out, interacting with one another, building Trust you know,

887
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.280
it was a little sexy, It was a little rescue.

888
00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:59.639
There was some skin I get it. You know, that's

889
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:03.000
not for everybody their horn Horney College students as far

890
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.679
as I'm concerned. So it was totally in character and

891
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:09.800
seeing that stuff doesn't personally bother me. But the concept

892
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.119
of the mind speak and it was what it seemed

893
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.840
like was like she creates this world in her head, right,

894
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.559
and then she's able to pull other people into the

895
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.079
world that's in her head, because later in the episode

896
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:22.440
she talks about how she used to go there when

897
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.000
she was a kid and I had to you know,

898
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:28.920
chill out by herself. So so the fact that this

899
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:30.559
is kind of a new way as far as I

900
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:35.320
know of Betazoid's kind of connecting with people, being able

901
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.679
to pull people into a little world in their head,

902
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:40.800
Like did Troy ever do that with Riker? I don't

903
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:46.719
remember that anyway, So, you know, new betazoid stuff. That

904
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:49.719
was actually pretty cool. And I liked the fact that

905
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.480
she kind of like sees the teddy Bear that is

906
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.599
deeper into his psyche and he freaks out about it

907
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:59.199
because that's a very defensive like PTSD response that he

908
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.960
would have had, right, He's lived his entire life protecting

909
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:05.440
himself Oh my god, here's somebody I really really like.

910
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.840
She learns a little bit something personal about me. I

911
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:10.559
think I might have to go somewhere else. This is

912
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:12.719
freaking me out. And of course he's a total dick

913
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:16.159
to her and she leaves right, so luckily they make

914
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:20.320
up and their relationship. I'm continuing to be a fan

915
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:25.239
of it so far. Okay, so Real World as Classroom,

916
00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:28.199
I kind of agree, like they could just do it

917
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:30.519
in the holiday, but then we wouldn't have this episode, right,

918
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:34.719
So so they go to the place with the old ship,

919
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.239
which by the way, is not that old, right because

920
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.599
it was post burn, so it's like one hundred and whatever,

921
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:41.519
fifty years.

922
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:45.000
Old or lest Yeah, they mentioned twenty five years old.

923
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.480
It doesn't have the detachment of cells, so I thought

924
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:49.719
that was kind of an interesting thing. That feels like

925
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.320
that's kind of a new invention now if you want

926
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.079
to get into the tech of Star Trek, it has

927
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:56.960
attachment to cells, so it's hard to tell like kind

928
00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:00.159
of how old it was. Jim already mentioned the the

929
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:03.159
new technology of those plasma suits. But this Singularity Drive

930
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:06.440
fascinates me, and I think it's because number one, we

931
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.280
were just talking last week or a couple of weeks

932
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:10.239
ago about I can't remember if it was on the

933
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:11.880
air or not, but it was about the Romulans and

934
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:17.360
their Singularity power drive on the Romulan war Birds, and

935
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:25.400
so singularity right when it's extreme gravitational force? Oh can

936
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:27.920
you not hear me? Can you not hear me?

937
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:29.719
I can hear you.

938
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:30.599
I can hear you.

939
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:34.519
Okay, Jim screaming, Oh I don't know what that means. Okay,

940
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:41.920
So singularity drive, well, okay, a singularity is an extreme

941
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:45.880
gravitational force. And what that means through thank you Einstein

942
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:48.719
for figuring this out, is that when objects get close

943
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:51.599
to the event horizon of a singularity or any any

944
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:54.800
super gravitational force like that, time dilation effects and that

945
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:58.320
kind of thing can start happening. And so my assumption

946
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:04.679
when the reverse I'm sorry the other guys later in

947
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:10.000
the show, I was like, Oh, they're all fhazy because

948
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.480
they were the ones who were on board the Miyazaki

949
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.639
when the Singularity drive blew and they got like a

950
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:20.400
weird temporal thing that happened to them, and that's why

951
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:24.519
they're all like so they didn't really go there with

952
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:25.079
the story.

953
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:26.000
I was pretty sure.

954
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.199
They were going to reveal that, and they didn't, so

955
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:31.760
you know, maybe maybe they will. Mystery still out there?

956
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:33.639
Do you think that they you were hoping that they

957
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:35.239
would turn out to have been the crew of the

958
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:36.360
Miyazaka correct.

959
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:38.280
Oh wow, Okay.

960
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:40.360
Like a little twisty twist there, and it made me.

961
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.719
It made me think of that episode of Strange New

962
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:48.320
Worlds that we just watched. Uh, the crew were the

963
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:50.960
guys in the alien suits that you find out at

964
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:53.440
the end of the episode that they were humans all

965
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:55.320
along kind of thing, you know.

966
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:57.800
I was like, oh, maybe they'll do that same kind

967
00:59:57.840 --> 00:59:58.079
of thing.

968
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:01.880
They did mention that they were part human.

969
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:07.440
So that's true. That's true, which is very fagi right.

970
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.920
That's why I always loved that Charles brought that up

971
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.480
from Voyager because the you know, the Videans have like

972
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.920
all of this DNA because they graft stuff onto their

973
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:20.559
bodies from all these different alien races. So that's kind

974
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.239
of a it was kind of cool to call back

975
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:28.639
to that. Okay, let's see what else you guys mentioned,

976
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:30.960
Like you mentioned the wager. I wanted to mention the wager,

977
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:35.559
but yeah, the thought wager was hilarious to me. Let's

978
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:38.840
talk a little bit more about the Furies. So I agree,

979
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:42.960
absolutely terrifying alien. The fact that they kind of like

980
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.320
have this group of kids that get trapped and then

981
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:50.559
are you know, constantly being assaulted. So it's the siege

982
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.599
kind of scene sort of situation that just builds tension,

983
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:56.400
like crazy man, because they don't have a way out,

984
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:59.480
they don't have transporters, so so that was very intense,

985
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:03.119
and I didn't mind that it was intense. Of course,

986
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:04.320
they eventually break through.

987
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:05.880
Jim.

988
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.400
I know you're upset with Jaden here, but I actually

989
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:12.679
wrote down sweet moment between Kyle and Jaden where they

990
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.280
briefly speak in touch, So apparently my opinion of that

991
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:23.960
part was different. The Bobby spot quote was fantastic. Let's

992
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.440
just talk about Paul Giamatti a little bit, So, no question,

993
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.320
I think he chewed the scenery like crazy. I thought

994
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:33.000
he was fantastic. He's a very nasty alien that I

995
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:36.519
already hate because he is going after this woman's dead son.

996
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:40.840
Are you kidding me? That's like a real super low blow.

997
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.400
But it feels a little bit trophy to kind of like, oh,

998
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.280
we have to break the bad guy out of prison

999
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:49.760
because he's the only one that knows how to solve

1000
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.679
the thing. I feel like that's been done before, or

1001
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:56.960
it just doesn't feel very it feels too risky. And

1002
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.280
all throughout this episode, Holly Hunter's character is constantly like

1003
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:04.400
my spidy sense is tingling, something is not right, and

1004
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:06.400
but they don't do anything about it. It's kind of

1005
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:08.440
like a feeling, and she doesn't trust her feeling or

1006
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.559
she just doesn't act on it. But so his glan

1007
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:14.039
kind of like the fact that they had to break

1008
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.719
him out to get him into the story. I didn't

1009
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:20.719
love that, But then once he's out, I think he's

1010
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:24.519
a fantastic villain that absolutely scares the crap out of me.

1011
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:28.480
Was she in prison? I thought he they had to

1012
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.480
find him that. I don't think they were. I don't

1013
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:31.599
think they broke him out of prison.

1014
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:37.039
What it was he was didn't but wasn't he didn't

1015
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:38.880
have the collar thing at the beginning, And.

1016
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:43.800
Then they said that they thought that he was somewhere

1017
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:50.159
in the schecter so they hailed him and they.

1018
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:50.519
Oh, sorry about that. Okay, I misunderstood that part of

1019
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:54.320
the story. Okay, well, I guess that's less.

1020
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:58.480
True, but it is.

1021
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:06.440
He is having the time of his life. That is obvious, right, Yeah.

1022
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.079
Well, and you know all along that they're going to

1023
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:09.800
get right the whole episode.

1024
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:11.480
You know they're going to get double crossed. You know

1025
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:13.119
what's going to happen. There's no way it's not going

1026
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.599
to happen. So it's a little bit of like waiting

1027
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.400
for the inevitable thing that you know you're going to see.

1028
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:23.960
But that's okay. He was just fantastic. I love the

1029
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:29.440
Tarima and Caleb m Zadi like teleportation thing, getting into

1030
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.800
the same space, being able to communicate, and that being

1031
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:33.199
the way that they sort of break through all the

1032
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:37.920
technological barriers. Star Trek does a great job of doing

1033
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.199
that where they say, Okay, we can't use our tech,

1034
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:43.159
we have to rely on our natural abilities or our

1035
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:45.320
smarts or that kind of stuff, and that just kind

1036
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.960
of continued here. So I really I really liked that

1037
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:52.760
part of it. You know, Genesis has some great discoveries

1038
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.000
in this one. She keeps rolling. She's a great character.

1039
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.199
And then so last but not least kind of at

1040
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:07.159
the end uh the Terema scream. So I was I

1041
01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:09.599
was really confused by the Tarina screams. So they were

1042
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:15.039
in the Terema metaverse, right, Caleb and Tarima, we're in

1043
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:19.239
their little yellow zone, and she starts shouting in the

1044
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:25.519
yellow zone and then does it also happen in the

1045
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:27.719
real world at the same time. Is that kind of

1046
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:28.039
what was?

1047
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.119
I don't think it's been super tangibly gone into okay,

1048
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.599
But basically it's just like the fact that it's like

1049
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:38.119
a conceit right, that she's in her mind space. It's

1050
01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:41.000
not like it's a place that exists, but she's in

1051
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:43.000
her and sometimes she give if you had to overlap

1052
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:46.000
or you had psychic contact with a person, you might

1053
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:49.039
feel like you're in a shared environment. But they've said

1054
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:52.119
throughout the show that she's got way more EmPATH empathic

1055
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:55.119
power than her fellow betazoids. She has more psychic sensitivity.

1056
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:58.480
She's dangerous to those around her without that implant, right,

1057
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:01.000
without the inhibitor chap or whatever you want to call it. Right,

1058
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:04.360
she has to have that to suppress her ability because

1059
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:10.039
her emotions can harm others like a psychic wave. It's

1060
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:15.039
not like it's tangibly sound you will, but she's I

1061
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:18.119
don't know, if you guys remember like DC comics Black Canary, right,

1062
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:19.280
she could do that thing.

1063
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:22.840
She's actually I think it's actually closer to what you're

1064
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:25.320
saying is is the gene gray thing. It's like more

1065
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:26.639
like a psychic blast kind of.

1066
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:28.280
Thing, and not I would describe it as like a

1067
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:32.199
telepathic screen. It's not an audible sound, but in her

1068
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:34.880
mind it's like all of her emotions in this kind

1069
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:37.920
of blast of rage. Right, So it's like a telepathic

1070
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:40.239
mental screen, if you will. Okay, that's how I think

1071
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:42.920
what we're meant to interpret it. That would be my guess.

1072
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:47.079
She's definitely not like every other beta's or betazoid that

1073
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:50.400
we've seen before. Now She's she said, I'm different, I'm special.

1074
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:53.239
And I think that's fantastic actually that they made her

1075
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:56.400
a different kind of character and yeah.

1076
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:59.360
Yeah, totally okay, so that that makes sense.

1077
01:05:59.360 --> 01:05:59.679
All right.

1078
01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:02.760
Well, so the scream you know, happens, and then a

1079
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.639
bunch of heads explode, which of course is like, you know,

1080
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:07.400
I'm still getting used to that in Star Trek to

1081
01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:12.719
because that's okay, so over and then the double cross, uh, fantastic,

1082
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.039
Like I did not see it coming. I mean, I

1083
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:17.400
knew something was gonna happen, but the fact that when

1084
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:19.400
it happened, and then he decloaked and then he was

1085
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:20.400
in league with the Furies.

1086
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:21.320
That was fantastic.

1087
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.000
So so yeah.

1088
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:26.280
At the end, it's super downer.

1089
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:26.559
Right.

1090
01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:29.280
We got the the destroy the Venari Ral, destroy that

1091
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.440
station thing. They say Discovery is like picking up the

1092
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.440
escape pods.

1093
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:35.159
Uh, you know, the.

1094
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:40.119
Federation has been crushed by the pirate. Bad guy Tarma's

1095
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.639
in a coma. So the episode ends on an absolute downer.

1096
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:47.079
I thought it was a great episode. I have liked

1097
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:51.320
the optimistic tone so far because it feels like relief

1098
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.039
from kind of like everything else is going on in

1099
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:56.039
my head. So I would love to give this a nine.

1100
01:06:56.719 --> 01:07:00.679
I think if I watched this later on, I will

1101
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:02.559
give it a nine. Tonight, I'm going to give it

1102
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:04.440
an eight just because it wasn't the episode that I

1103
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:07.039
needed when I watched it. But it was really well

1104
01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:09.920
written and really well acted, and overall was pretty good.

1105
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:11.440
I had a few little problems that I mentioned, but

1106
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:11.960
that was about it.

1107
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:15.280
Yeah, what do you think? Well, I like to look

1108
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.920
at the whole season as a whole, like take like, yeah,

1109
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:23.159
typical episodes or any narrative story right, three act structure right,

1110
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:26.320
and apply that structure to the course of the whole season, right. So,

1111
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.199
right now we're in the middle of like Act two, right,

1112
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:34.360
basically where the characters suffer a defeat, right, and they're

1113
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:38.239
at their lowest point and they need to somehow redeem themselves,

1114
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:42.679
get up off the floor, pick themselves up, and battle on,

1115
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:46.239
right until the final conflict happens again in Act three, Right,

1116
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:48.239
So I think that's kind of where they're at right now.

1117
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:52.639
Tarima and Caleber separated, right. He's having a hard time

1118
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:56.360
even communicating with her because of shame and trauma. Right,

1119
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:58.960
So there's all that stuff there. I'm sure they're going

1120
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:02.440
to get back together and probably stronger than before. But

1121
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:05.320
it's it's it's to me, it's satisfying to have chaos

1122
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:08.199
in the middle of my story, right because I know

1123
01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:10.159
that everyone's going to try to write the ship and

1124
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:12.199
fix it, right, And I think that's where we're going

1125
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:16.119
right now, right was the I like what they're doing, right.

1126
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.359
I have no freaking problems at all with our klingon

1127
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:22.760
friend and the fact that he's pursuing the relationship he is.

1128
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:23.760
I think it's great.

1129
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:27.560
I think it's needed in our pollering time. So I'm

1130
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:29.399
really happy to see that, and I'm happy to see

1131
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:31.960
a different kind of cling on portraye who's got his

1132
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.039
own moral compass, not one determined by you know, dogma

1133
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:38.920
and you know family upbringing. Right, He's got his own

1134
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:41.560
situation in terms of what he thinks is right. That's

1135
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.960
freaking refreshing, right, So I really like his unique going

1136
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:47.199
my own way path.

1137
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:48.279
Right.

1138
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:52.039
He's not you know, the whole no matter walk. I mean,

1139
01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:55.279
that's boring as ship. We've seen that for you know

1140
01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:58.039
how many franchises now, how many turns it back? This

1141
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:00.640
is something different and new and makes him a more

1142
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.800
compelling character as an individual. So I really like that.

1143
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:06.039
So I'm going along with the crew here man. For me,

1144
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:10.760
this is a solid nine, really satisfying storytelling. I do

1145
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.319
think Giamatti it's great that he's got so much energy.

1146
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:15.319
I just wish it was tempered and focused a little

1147
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:17.720
bit more. He is like really having it up. I'm

1148
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:20.520
sure he's having a lot of fun, but good lord, dude,

1149
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:23.119
it's like, you know, it's just it's a more nuanced

1150
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:26.680
performance would be welcome, right, But but you know, people

1151
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:28.399
seem to like it because we live in an age

1152
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:31.960
where it's you know, there are very few subtleties, all right,

1153
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:35.239
I appreciate it. It's you know, go big or go home, right, So.

1154
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:37.039
That's that's kind of where we're at.

1155
01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:39.960
I wish it was a little bit, you know, more

1156
01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:43.920
incisive portrayal, but that's just me and what I like, right.

1157
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:46.680
But I think they're doing a great job. I'm super

1158
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:51.119
loving this cast and like the where it's going. Excited

1159
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:53.800
to watch the next episode later tonight, and of course

1160
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:56.479
next week we'll talk about the previous week's episode. So

1161
01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.840
really good, but definitely a nine for me. Keep it rocking.

1162
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:06.399
As one of our fans said, really fun storytelling. I

1163
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:07.439
think it's just good to consider.

1164
01:10:07.479 --> 01:10:07.560
You know.

1165
01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:12.079
It's just like a lot of fans on our Facebook page,

1166
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:15.279
and I love you are of a certain age, right,

1167
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:17.720
I am of a certain age and a certain vintage, right.

1168
01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:22.840
And boy, the crankiness gets dredged up from many different

1169
01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:27.319
demographics when something is different than what we're used to, right,

1170
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:29.920
And when we're canon adherent and we're all this stuff

1171
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.439
and something new happens, we're like freak out. We saw

1172
01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:36.279
so much of that during the Discovery era, right, consider

1173
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:39.560
them if you are a dep a demographic who is say, oh,

1174
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.920
I don't know a little bit younger than the folks

1175
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:44.560
who are depicted on this show. Folks who are finishing

1176
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:47.399
middle school, folks who are finishing high school. And you're

1177
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:50.319
exposed to this show, and you don't have sixty years

1178
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:53.960
of start trek canon cram between your waxy years, right,

1179
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:55.800
this is all fresh and new to you. And it's

1180
01:10:55.840 --> 01:11:00.119
a great way of introducing these concepts of exploration and

1181
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:03.960
diversity and tolerance to a new episode and make them

1182
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:06.159
curious enough to want to explore more and go into

1183
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:08.880
and look into these other shows that we may be

1184
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.239
all familiar with and glued to all right with our moorings.

1185
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:15.520
But but but they're not. And it's a great if

1186
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:19.359
you will recruiting arm of the franchise to bring people

1187
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:21.600
in and invite them and say, hey, guess what, there's

1188
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.800
this whole universe and science fiction storytelling here and you

1189
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:26.960
belong here too. There's a place for you as well.

1190
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:29.000
And I think that's just a really refreshing thing. So

1191
01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:32.000
great episode. So I have to duck out a little

1192
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:34.119
early to night, but I was really excited to talk

1193
01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:34.560
about this one.

1194
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:35.359
I think you're doing. Now.

1195
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:37.479
I just add one more thing, really quick before we

1196
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:41.039
all go for this. I'm the only one going, David,

1197
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:45.399
so you're selling like before we endo us talk here.

1198
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:49.680
I just realized something because when Paul Giermadi uh I

1199
01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:51.840
forgot his name now of the character name, but anyway,

1200
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:58.359
who's Broca news Braca, when he was talking to Nala

1201
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:03.720
about his hatred toward her, I just realized. I think

1202
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:08.840
he just gave away a little piece of information about

1203
01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:12.319
because she mentioned his dead son or her dead son,

1204
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:15.880
and that she that he died in the bone and

1205
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.319
then he said something about like did he die on

1206
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:22.680
that ship, the ship that they were boarding, And it

1207
01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:25.960
made me wonder if Nala had a son who actually

1208
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:29.079
would part of that if eric exterior is correct and

1209
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.079
they were part of the crew, that they might be

1210
01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:39.680
that reaper creature thing. But Nala now has to probably

1211
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.760
figure out how to get it right. I guess I

1212
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:44.119
don't know. I mean, what do you guys think about that?

1213
01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:45.680
No, I'm lost, dude.

1214
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:49.840
We'll find out at some point, but I couldn't follow it.

1215
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:59.960
Sorry, bye, Okay, So yeah, I don't know right on? Wow?

1216
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:06.720
Yeah, I uh okay, So yeah, I think I think

1217
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:08.000
I I think I know what you're.

1218
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:11.680
Saying, yeah, I mean he mentioned that she had a

1219
01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.640
dead son who apparently would I guess on that ship.

1220
01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:20.279
Yes, that's what that's what it's well that yeah, I

1221
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:22.520
think that that's what was going on, and so the

1222
01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:24.720
and at the end, of course, he says that he's

1223
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:27.279
got a big surprise for her, he's gotta wrap it

1224
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:31.279
up with a big red bow, and so I I

1225
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:32.800
do think that it might have something to do with

1226
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:35.720
the Sun. I hadn't made the connection between the ship

1227
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:36.399
and the sun.

1228
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:38.640
Well I hadn't either.

1229
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:42.039
Yeah, I just yeah, I just recently watched the episode

1230
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:45.960
and you mentioned something about did he die on that ship? Like,

1231
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.000
could that ship exploded from that experiment? I guess what?

1232
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:53.199
And since he's part Lathe and they lived long time,

1233
01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:55.239
and since that ship blew up one hundred and twenty

1234
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:59.520
five years ago, I was like, yeah, yeah, So.

1235
01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:08.199
I had to take a phone call, so I had

1236
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:10.479
to leave, So I missed off the conversation.

1237
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:14.680
I probably didn't even know you were gone.

1238
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:18.479
I'm that situating that you didn't even mess me.

1239
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:21.640
No, because we were all doing the same.

1240
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:28.640
I did touch with David. I will I will share

1241
01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:33.880
my opinion on it. I at first, I thought that, Uh,

1242
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:36.199
I had to go back and watch it again because

1243
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:39.880
I thought I heard the word boord attack mentioned in there,

1244
01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.800
so I thought the borg had something to do with it,

1245
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:44.640
and then I went back and rewatched it. I don't

1246
01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:46.760
know why I thought that, because the second time I

1247
01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:50.359
watched it, I didn't hear that bord thing. But I

1248
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:53.399
didn't think that. I didn't get the impression that he

1249
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:55.119
was on the Miyazaki.

1250
01:14:57.680 --> 01:14:59.119
Broca said something about it.

1251
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:07.520
Yeah, well he said, you know, you had to sacrifice

1252
01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:11.399
your son on on that ship to save everyone else.

1253
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:17.279
But everyone on that ship died, so he couldn't have

1254
01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:20.159
been on that ship to sacrifice himself to save everyone

1255
01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:23.239
else because there was no survivors. That's the way I

1256
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:27.239
took it, So I think he was talking about a

1257
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:31.000
different ship, but I might you know, I might be wrong,

1258
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:34.840
but that's the way I took it, but I wanted

1259
01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:37.319
to get back. I missed. I apologize, I missed the

1260
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:40.119
whole conversation. It was a very important phone call. I

1261
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:43.079
had to take it. I apologize, But Eric, what was

1262
01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:48.960
your what was your thought on the interphasing furies? I'm

1263
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.319
sorry I didn't. I wasn't here to hear what you

1264
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:52.079
thought about that.

1265
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:57.359
So my thought was that the singularity drive that was

1266
01:15:57.479 --> 01:16:01.960
on that ship singularities, uh you know, have a ton

1267
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:08.359
of gravity, and gravity messes with time dilation thanks to

1268
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:11.720
Einstein's equations, and so my thought was that when the

1269
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:15.279
ship exploded through the failure of its singularity drive, that

1270
01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:19.920
some weird temporal thing happened or whatever and created these

1271
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:25.319
this character these this race of kind of phasey characters,

1272
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:29.039
and so that those characters were actually the crew of

1273
01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:37.279
the Miyazaki. Yeah, they gave no explanation for their little

1274
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:42.199
spatial thing that they do, you know, and so it

1275
01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:44.359
was the It was the thing that I kind of

1276
01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:47.079
immediately thought when they were introduced that we were going

1277
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:47.920
to learn and then we.

1278
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:53.720
Didn't, which would explain why, because that's what Bracas said.

1279
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:57.840
They were super they were they were just enormously angry,

1280
01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:05.399
So you know, I guess getting yeah, yeah he said that.

1281
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:06.479
I think they said.

1282
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:12.880
They were in they were in constant pain. Yeah, So yeah,

1283
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:16.279
that would that would make me, you know, curious too.

1284
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:22.920
So what was on? Did we give an overall score?

1285
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:25.319
Did I miss that? Yet?

1286
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:28.239
I wanted to throw one thing interesting that we didn't

1287
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:34.840
we didn't mention that we talked about terrain and her power.

1288
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:40.199
They didn't mention the episode that that is why dad

1289
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:43.560
does not speak. Is she actually, I think damaged the

1290
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:44.600
vocal cords.

1291
01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:50.560
Oh that's right, Yeah, that's why she blew his ears out, blew.

1292
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:56.039
His ears out, and that's why he doesn't speak. And

1293
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:59.399
her brother wasn't around when it happened, so he wasn't

1294
01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:03.119
caught up in it. But that is one of the

1295
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:06.119
reasons why you where's the inhibitors because.

1296
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:12.600
Of that, which if you've ever yeah, yeah, you got grounded.

1297
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:13.239
I'm sorry.

1298
01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.760
I'd have to laugh because I was just thinking of

1299
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:20.520
you know when kids have meltdowns or they shriek and

1300
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:23.359
you feel like your hairs are exploding.

1301
01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:34.680
So so it was okays.

1302
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:38.640
Our fans gave us an gave us one a nine

1303
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:43.199
point three. The treck Spirit only gave an eight point eight.

1304
01:18:47.479 --> 01:18:49.680
But that's okay. We reserved our tens or other.

1305
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:56.600
Episodes exactly exactly true.

1306
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:05.479
Review of of last week's episode came and went, and

1307
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.439
now you know what time it is. It's time for

1308
01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:31.640
sp I five birthdays. That was not a clemon song, right,

1309
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:34.439
A few guys noticed it played on time this week

1310
01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:40.640
because you got the rights pressed. That's really good. All right, guys.

1311
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:42.039
This is the part of the show where we go

1312
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:44.880
over our sci fi birthday so you can find out

1313
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:48.000
who you share a sci fi birthday with this week,

1314
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:51.439
and we always start off by remembering those members of

1315
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:54.239
our sci fi family who's, sadly enough, are no longer

1316
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:56.439
with us, and for that we turned to air.

1317
01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:02.399
We start our remembrances this week with actress Patricia Smith Lesal.

1318
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:07.600
She of course, was the person who played an old

1319
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:11.319
looking doctor Kingsley, a young female doctor in her mid

1320
01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:16.319
thirties back in that episode. What was that episode? I

1321
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:19.479
did not write that, Sorry, which episode? Oh yeah, a

1322
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:25.359
natural selection? A natural selection from the second season. Interesting thing,

1323
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:28.079
you know. She did have a few guest appearances. Patricia

1324
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.000
lasl had a few guest appearances on a few shows

1325
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.319
along the way, but she was a regular performer on

1326
01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:36.199
The Debbie Reynolds Show and on The Bob Newheart Show

1327
01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:40.119
back in the day. And actually in nineteen seventy four

1328
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:43.079
she made an uncredited appearance on the unsold pilot for

1329
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:47.960
Gene rod Berry's Planet Earth series, which we never got,

1330
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:50.479
but she would have been on that one too. And

1331
01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:54.199
she would have actually interfaced with Majel Barrett, Ted Cassidy,

1332
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:56.600
and Diana Muldar who were all slated to be on

1333
01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:00.800
that show as well. So anyway, didn't get very much

1334
01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:02.680
screen time with her. But thank you very much to

1335
01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:07.359
Patricia Smith Lasel for your contributions to Star Trek. Happy Birthday,

1336
01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:11.640
Happy Birthday, as well to Marge Duce, the Emmy nominated

1337
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:15.640
actress who played Kara in the TOS third season episode

1338
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:20.359
Spock's Brain. According to an audio interview on her official website,

1339
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:24.159
she did not watch this episode of Star Trek until

1340
01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:26.159
somebody gave her a VHS tape of it in.

1341
01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:29.960
The nineteen nineties. I thought that was kind of funny.

1342
01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:35.079
She made her film debut back in nineteen sixty seven

1343
01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:38.640
in Elvis's movie clam Bag, which you've probably heard of.

1344
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:41.800
But she was really mostly famous for being on soap

1345
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:45.479
operas from eighty three to eighty seven. She was Constance

1346
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:48.560
Towers on Capitol. From eighty seven to ninety one, she

1347
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:51.640
was Pamela Capwell on Santa Barbara from ninety two to

1348
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:54.920
ninety three. She vis Vivian Alamin on Days of Our

1349
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:58.479
Lives from ninety three to ninety nine she was Alexandra

1350
01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:01.680
Spaulding on Guiding Light and from ninety eight to two

1351
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.319
thousand and two she was Vanessa Bennett Courtland on All

1352
01:22:05.439 --> 01:22:09.520
My Children. So talk about making the rounds through the soaps.

1353
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:12.079
Pretty cool, Marge to say. Would have had a birthday

1354
01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:15.159
here on February twentieth. Happy birthday, Tumor.

1355
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:18.760
And I just I just want to add that you

1356
01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:20.760
see her there on the screen in a scene from

1357
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:26.920
Galactica to nineteen eighty. Okay, that particular scene from Galactica

1358
01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:31.560
to nineteen eighty is actually one of the very few

1359
01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:36.439
scenes that's actually humorous and worth watching in that series.

1360
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:40.840
And that's where the Cylon goes to a Halloween party

1361
01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:45.279
and someone turns down the microwave on the microwave short

1362
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:49.479
the Sylon and he blows it up, and it's one

1363
01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:52.359
of the it's a very humorous, very funny scene. That's

1364
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:57.199
one of the has that sad, beautiful series that is

1365
01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:00.960
definitely worth watching. And she was in that scene there,

1366
01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:02.199
it is on the screen from.

1367
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:06.359
You say the name of that series again, Uncle Jim.

1368
01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:19.399
It was just related. It was the exact opposite of me.

1369
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:21.359
Yeah, I'm not sure that's enough to.

1370
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:24.680
Oh my god.

1371
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:28.279
All right, well, thanks Marge to say, moving right along,

1372
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:30.319
we are going to step outside of Star Trek and

1373
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:32.520
we're going to say a happy birthday to the very

1374
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:35.920
talented and very much missed Alan Rickman. He, of course,

1375
01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:40.399
was the English actor actor. A graduate of the Royal

1376
01:23:40.439 --> 01:23:43.680
Academy of Dramatic Art. He made his film debut as

1377
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:48.720
the German criminal mastermind Hans Gruber in Die Hard of Course,

1378
01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:52.000
playing several snape in all eight of the Harry Potter movies,

1379
01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:58.600
uh and Alexander Dane in Galaxy Quest. I also remember

1380
01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:02.880
him strangely from the nineteen ninety Tom Selleck movie Quickly

1381
01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:06.560
down Under. I think I just have like this memory

1382
01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:10.079
of that movie for some reason. And so yeah, Alan

1383
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:13.119
Rickman was in that. So I will say, by grab

1384
01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:18.359
Thar's Hammer, by the Sons of Warvin, Alan Rickman, I

1385
01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:22.840
hope one day you will be avenged. We miss you, buddy.

1386
01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:24.760
We lost you all the way back in twenty sixteen.

1387
01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:27.319
It's been ten years, if you could believe that, we

1388
01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:30.119
lost him January twenty sixteen. So happy birthday to the

1389
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:34.159
very talented and very much missed Alan Rickman. Happy birthday

1390
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:38.640
as well to Celia Lawski the actress from Vienna, Austria,

1391
01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:41.560
who played Tapao, the original Tapao in the TOS second

1392
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:45.319
season episode A Monk Time. One of only fourteen guest

1393
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:48.279
stars born in the nineteenth century, she was born in

1394
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:52.119
eighteen ninety seven. Her father was actually a minor Czech

1395
01:24:52.359 --> 01:24:58.239
classical composer as well. Later in her life, through her connections,

1396
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:02.199
she would marry the hungary An actor Peter Lourie Uh.

1397
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:07.439
And she also at one point played the mother of

1398
01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:11.479
lan Cheney Uh in Man of a Thousand Faces. And

1399
01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:14.359
I had to use American sign language in that film,

1400
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:16.000
so I think that I thought that was kind of cool.

1401
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:26.800
She was in Silent Green, What is Soilent Green? And

1402
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:30.039
what's funny is that she was unable to really make

1403
01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:31.079
that vulcan.

1404
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:34.520
Salon that she had to make for for a month time.

1405
01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:36.239
So what she did was she kind of got like

1406
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:40.279
her hand all set up with her left hand below

1407
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:41.520
and then when she was ready.

1408
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:43.800
She was like, yeah, I was going to.

1409
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:48.359
Yeah, that's funny.

1410
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:50.560
Yeah, that was pretty pretty funny story there. So yeah,

1411
01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:54.079
our original topo, nobody will every top you. We got

1412
01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:57.680
a pretty good one later on. Uh in Stranging Worlds,

1413
01:25:57.720 --> 01:25:59.960
but yeah, you will always be the original. So happy

1414
01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:03.800
birthday to Celia Lovski. Happy birthday as well to Reese Vaughn,

1415
01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:07.159
the actor who played Lieutenant Latimer in the TOS first

1416
01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:10.920
season episode The Galileo Seven. Just one of many.

1417
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:13.600
Sort of early Star Trek guys who just kind of

1418
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:14.479
looked like that. I don't know.

1419
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:19.319
Several television guest appearances on shows like The Alfred Hitchcock Hour,

1420
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:23.079
Wagon Trained, Virginian Gun Smoke, and he did a little

1421
01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:29.600
bit of feature film work, including nineteen sixty five's The Playground,

1422
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:33.159
where he was the lead, and nineteen seventies TV movie

1423
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:38.439
House on Green Apple Road, which also featured Joanne Lynnville.

1424
01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:40.560
If you don't remember who that is, that's, of course

1425
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:44.399
our female romulant commander. So a little bit more Star

1426
01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:48.479
Trek crossover there for Reyese Vaughan, Lieutenant Latimer, we miss you, buddy,

1427
01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:52.159
Happy birthday. Has saying Happy birthday this week as well

1428
01:26:52.199 --> 01:26:55.600
to Lawrence Montaigne, the actor who played Deseus in the

1429
01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.720
TOS first season episode Balance of Terror and also played

1430
01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:04.039
on the Original on the second season episode A Muck Time. Montanne,

1431
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:08.039
of course, was born in Brooklyn but raised in Rome. Italy,

1432
01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:10.680
which I think is kind of cool. According to the

1433
01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:14.560
making of Star Trek, if Leonard needmoy had left the

1434
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:19.119
series in the second season, Lawrence Montayanne was actually one

1435
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:21.920
of the possible characters that might replace.

1436
01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:23.159
Him as the vulcans Bach.

1437
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:24.920
And you can kind of see it right, You see

1438
01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:27.680
that in the look there's not that much difference between

1439
01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:30.159
the way DCUs looks who's a Romulan.

1440
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:32.479
But the ways Spot looks.

1441
01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:36.359
In two thousand and seven, Montane returned to the role

1442
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:38.760
of stn in Star Trek of Gods and Men, which

1443
01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:40.720
of course is a great fan film, which is if

1444
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:42.720
you haven't seen it, you should see it. And then

1445
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:45.479
in two thousand and seven, he portrayed Commander Vallar in

1446
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.399
the pilot episode of the audio series Star Trek The

1447
01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:54.680
Continuing Mission. Finally, he was a former US Marine and

1448
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:57.319
has appeared in many other television shows in addition to

1449
01:27:57.359 --> 01:27:57.800
Star Trek.

1450
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:00.119
You can go check out his IMDb page if you like.

1451
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:03.199
Lawrence Montaigne lost back in twenty seventeen at the age

1452
01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:06.119
of eighty six years old. Happy Birthday to him, and

1453
01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:09.680
last but not least, we celebrate perhaps one of the

1454
01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:14.840
biggest birthdays that we can possibly celebrate during the year. Today,

1455
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:17.840
well not today. The twenty third of February was Major

1456
01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:19.680
Barrett Roddenberry's birthday.

1457
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:20.199
That's right.

1458
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:22.319
The first Lady of Star Trek was of course a

1459
01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:26.720
reoccurring actress and at one point the wife of Star

1460
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:30.520
Trek creator Gene Roddenberry from nineteen sixty nine until his

1461
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:34.960
death in nineteen ninety one. She's the only performer to

1462
01:28:35.079 --> 01:28:38.199
have had a role on the first six Star Trek series,

1463
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:41.000
usually not as a character, but is playing the voice

1464
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:44.319
of various computers throughout those series, but yeah, ts animated

1465
01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:48.319
series tg DS nine Voyager Enterprise. She also supplied the

1466
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.520
voice of the Enterprise computer in five of the Star

1467
01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:56.640
Trek films. Her most frequent portrayal in Star Trek besides

1468
01:28:56.720 --> 01:29:00.000
the computer, was of course as our original nurse Christine

1469
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:03.399
Chapel in the original series and the animated series, and

1470
01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.800
in two of the films. She also voiced the cation

1471
01:29:07.279 --> 01:29:11.479
Emress and several other characters on the animated series, later

1472
01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:15.439
of course playing the betazoid ambassador Luaxana Troy, who I

1473
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:19.680
personally that's my favorite role of hers. She's this fabulous

1474
01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:23.800
on Next Generation and on Deep Space nine. Hard to

1475
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:26.399
believe at that point that her first film appearance was

1476
01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:28.600
way back in the pilot, that they didn't do the

1477
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:31.479
cage right. She was number one in nineteen sixty four,

1478
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:37.159
and actually she got her job in nineteen sixty two

1479
01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:41.239
after meeting Lucille Ball at an acting class, was signed

1480
01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:46.319
to a contract with Desilu. Almost immediately thereafter. She was

1481
01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:48.760
also on The Lucy Show, A bunch and stuff back

1482
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:52.600
of the day. I don't think that we can overstress

1483
01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:55.600
how important this person was to the creation of Star

1484
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:58.560
Trek and all of these beloved characters that she portrayed.

1485
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:05.079
Just like right, she's right up there. A really cool

1486
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:07.159
thing that she did kind of a little bit later

1487
01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:09.000
was I don't know if you remember or not, but

1488
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.079
in the mid nineties, there was kind of this rivalry

1489
01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:14.159
that started to develop between Babylon five and Star Trek

1490
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:17.800
because Babylon five was really starting to gain popularity and

1491
01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:21.640
people were kind of getting into it, and so the

1492
01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:23.720
Babylon five people were kind of looking for a way

1493
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:28.399
to sort of smooth the consternation between the Star Trek

1494
01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:30.600
fans and the Babylon five fans. So what did they do?

1495
01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:33.880
They went and they hired Majel Barrett, and of course,

1496
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:38.560
they hired her to portray the widow of the Centauri

1497
01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.960
Emperor in the episode of the cult science fiction Babylon

1498
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:46.560
Five entitled Point of No Return. She took on that

1499
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:48.359
role as a good will gesture in the hopes of

1500
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:52.319
calming that rivalry, and I think it worked. A lot

1501
01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:56.199
of Trekkies eventually became Babylon five fans, which I think.

1502
01:30:56.119 --> 01:30:56.720
Is kind of neat.

1503
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:00.800
So yeah, I'll just say, how a birthday of Major

1504
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:01.399
ron Berry.

1505
01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:01.800
You.

1506
01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:03.279
I would have loved to have met you.

1507
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:04.960
We lost you all the way back in two thousand

1508
01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:11.279
and eight, which feels like forever again. Yeah, happy birthday

1509
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:13.000
to the first lady of Star Trek. And I'm sure

1510
01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:15.039
has a story, tell.

1511
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:24.880
An idea. It's not so that's a shocker. It's a shock.

1512
01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:30.720
So sadly enough, back when my wife and I got married,

1513
01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:35.399
I already told you guys that striking mister Holmes editing

1514
01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:37.520
and I put those I've showed you guys that pictures

1515
01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:41.479
are available on our website. But Major Barrett was also

1516
01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:44.680
at the convention. She did not come to my wedding,

1517
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:49.319
but she was there. And you remember the scene in

1518
01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:53.000
Season one of TNG when she beams aboard the ship

1519
01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:55.520
and she has captain to Card to pick up her bags.

1520
01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:59.159
They waited a time and he's kind of trying to

1521
01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:02.079
carry him with both hands. Well, my wife and I

1522
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.159
had the dubious pleasure of going to the airport to

1523
01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:08.520
pick up Majel Barrett at the airport of the Alvin

1524
01:32:08.640 --> 01:32:11.039
Airport to bring her back to the hotel for the convention.

1525
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:14.439
What a lot of people may not know is Major

1526
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:19.119
Barrett ran Lincoln Enterprises. Lincoln Enterprise is the biggest thing

1527
01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:23.359
that they sold were scripts of Star Trek because you

1528
01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:27.199
know Je RhI and Barry and all. So everywhere that

1529
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.560
she went she had this big suitcase filled with scripts.

1530
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:34.279
And let me tell you, scripts are heavy. I know

1531
01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:37.399
this for a fact because when she got to the

1532
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:39.920
airport and they rolled her stuff out, I went to

1533
01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:43.039
be a gentleman and grab her bags, and I felt

1534
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:48.079
like I wanted to pick it up. Hey, s I

1535
01:32:48.199 --> 01:32:53.119
was in this freaking bag, waited it was all around.

1536
01:32:54.279 --> 01:32:59.279
I toughed it out like the kind of like kneeded

1537
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:05.520
on liver. There got Nick Vaughan. I said to my wife, God,

1538
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:07.760
he's just like a lot of sun of that Dad.

1539
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.479
But I will tell you this, she was a charming lady.

1540
01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:18.439
She was delightful. Uh, she was wonderful. Uh. She she

1541
01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:21.319
complimented us on our convention. She said she loved doing

1542
01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:24.880
fan conventions because the love that the fans show her,

1543
01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:29.479
and you know, what they put into these conventions is incredible.

1544
01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:32.199
And uh, she came up to a meeting I had

1545
01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:34.680
with all my staff because when you do a convention,

1546
01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:37.000
you really don't get a chance to enjoy it because

1547
01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:40.960
you're working. And so we had a private party where

1548
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:44.520
my staff had an opportunity to just come up to

1549
01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.159
the green room and mingle with Major. And you know,

1550
01:33:47.239 --> 01:33:50.439
she signed everything for everybody and h pictures with me.

1551
01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:53.560
And this is this is before the days of photo

1552
01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:55.720
ops where you had to pay for everything. This this

1553
01:33:55.800 --> 01:34:02.439
is back in the early days. Nothing but a pleasure, durable, wonderful,

1554
01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:08.680
wonderful lady. I can't say with things about appreciate the

1555
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:18.199
opportunity to meet her and carry story. I wish I

1556
01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:18.640
had more.

1557
01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:26.039
But all right, well, I'm going to pass this birthday candle.

1558
01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:29.600
Then over to uh, who do you want to say?

1559
01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:33.800
Well, first off, talking about Majel Barrett Or Luxana Troy.

1560
01:34:34.439 --> 01:34:37.000
That's who I'm going to be cause playing at Galaxy

1561
01:34:37.039 --> 01:34:37.840
Con next month.

1562
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:42.000
Yes, and I well, he's over there. You can't see him,

1563
01:34:42.039 --> 01:34:46.520
but I am making a like a mini mister Holme.

1564
01:34:47.359 --> 01:34:49.960
I haven't quite packed. He's going to be on the wheels.

1565
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:51.079
I'm not quite sure.

1566
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:54.159
It's a long story, but I meant to show him

1567
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:56.720
to you tonight, but he isn't quite ready.

1568
01:34:57.560 --> 01:34:58.279
He's my valley.

1569
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:03.960
He doesn't say much, but yeah, I'm hoping to. I've

1570
01:35:03.960 --> 01:35:06.640
got still a lot to do. But anyway, I wish

1571
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:08.399
I could have met her. That would have been awesome.

1572
01:35:09.640 --> 01:35:16.399
So my first birthday is for Kelsey Grammer, Emmy and

1573
01:35:16.520 --> 01:35:19.720
Golden Globe winning actor who appeared in the role of

1574
01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:25.840
Morgan Bateson in TG fifth season episode Cause and Effect,

1575
01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:28.279
where they had that loop over and over and over

1576
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:31.840
and over again. Best known for playing the character of

1577
01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:37.840
doctor Fraser Crane on NBC's television comedy series Cheers and

1578
01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:40.800
Fraser and I have a story where way back when

1579
01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:45.920
I was in college a theater major at VCU and Richmond,

1580
01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:50.840
we on story short went to the Washington National Theater

1581
01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:54.439
in January I think it was eighty two nineteen eighty

1582
01:35:54.439 --> 01:36:00.560
two to see Othello and Othello was played by James

1583
01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:05.840
Earl Jones and an unknown Kelsey Grammar was Iago. So

1584
01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:11.640
there's that Star Trek Star Wars Russ Over. So that's

1585
01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:17.079
my little story. Next, Happy Birthday to Drew Barrymore. American actress,

1586
01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:21.520
film director, screenwriter, producer and model. She's best known for

1587
01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:24.840
portraying Elliott's five year old sister Gertie in E T

1588
01:36:25.479 --> 01:36:30.119
and fire Starter by Stephen King and Scream and also,

1589
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:34.920
of course of the illustrious Barrymore acting family.

1590
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:39.159
Next, Happy Birthday to Well.

1591
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:42.760
I want to interject here if you we talked about

1592
01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.359
this in the podcast. If you guys have not seen

1593
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:50.520
the movie, please stand by you go to check that

1594
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:53.880
good movie, all right.

1595
01:36:54.640 --> 01:37:01.319
Next, Happy Birthday to Martha Hackett. She's from Needham, Massachusetts.

1596
01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:05.640
Best known from her role of Sesca on thirteen episodes

1597
01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:09.119
of Voyager. She also appeared in two episodes of DS

1598
01:37:09.239 --> 01:37:14.760
nine The Search and two episodes of DS nine The

1599
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:16.159
Search Part One.

1600
01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:17.319
As to Rule.

1601
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:25.479
Next, Happy Birthday to Celia Rose Gooding. She's the actress

1602
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:29.359
and singer who plays Niota Aura in Star Trek Exchange

1603
01:37:29.399 --> 01:37:32.880
New Worlds. She was born and raised in New York City.

1604
01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:37.359
In twenty eighteen, she won a co starring role in

1605
01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:42.359
the Alanis Morissette musical Jagged Little Pill. Got to meet

1606
01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:48.479
her last September. She is a Swedie. Next Happy Birthday

1607
01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:52.920
to Chase Masterson, which is the stage name used by

1608
01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:59.399
Christianne Carol Carafano. She's an actress who played Lita during

1609
01:37:59.439 --> 01:38:03.760
the third through seventh seasons of Star Trek Deep Space nine.

1610
01:38:04.439 --> 01:38:07.359
She later reprised the role for the Star Trek Lower

1611
01:38:07.399 --> 01:38:13.760
Decks fourth season episode Part Ferenghi's heart place, and last

1612
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:15.119
but not Least, and.

1613
01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:18.319
Wait, I just want to mention something. Also, the only

1614
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:21.439
person we've entervor interviewed from her call.

1615
01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:27.119
Yeah, that's right. That was exciting too. I wish you

1616
01:38:27.119 --> 01:38:28.479
could have talked to her.

1617
01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:33.640
Yes, that was Yeah, that was very interesting. And last

1618
01:38:33.680 --> 01:38:36.119
but not least, somebody that I would love to meet

1619
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:44.000
because she's just freaking hilarious. Tawny Newsome. She's an actress, comedian, musician,

1620
01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:48.840
and writer who voiced Beckett Mariner on Lower Decks. She

1621
01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:54.159
also portrayed Mariner in the live action Strange New World's

1622
01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:59.039
episode Those Old Scientists and again, Freaking Hilarious with Jack

1623
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:02.000
Quay as Boy One, and she is a writer and

1624
01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:07.439
producer on Starfleet Academy and appeared as Illa Dax in

1625
01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:12.479
the episode series Acclamation Mill. She is also a host

1626
01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:16.640
of Star Trek the Pod Directive.

1627
01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:20.600
And she's actually got a ton of podcasts. I don't

1628
01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:22.800
know if you guys are familiar with her entire.

1629
01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:24.800
Suite of podcasts or not, but she's got.

1630
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:27.560
One that's really really good that's called Yo Is This

1631
01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:35.520
Racist That? Yeah, She's got a couple other ones where

1632
01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:37.680
she talks about social issues and stuff that kind of

1633
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:39.800
go beyond Star Trek. So if you want to learn

1634
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:43.159
more about Tonny News in general, I definitely recommend some of.

1635
01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:44.000
Her other podcasts.

1636
01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:50.920
Okay, Okay, Well, I'm gonna take this, Jim and run

1637
01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:53.079
with it. These are Paul's birthdays, so I'm going to

1638
01:39:53.119 --> 01:39:54.720
take those over since he's not a round So I'm

1639
01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:59.520
gonna say happy birthday this week to the such a

1640
01:39:59.560 --> 01:40:01.760
cool guy because I first saw him in two thousand

1641
01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:03.920
and one, of course, but that's because I saw that

1642
01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:07.520
movie before I saw Star Trek. Gary Lockwood is known

1643
01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:10.199
for playing Gary Mitchell in the TS first season episode

1644
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:13.199
where No Man Has gone before, but as I was saying,

1645
01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:16.720
I know him as playing doctor Frank Poole in nineteen

1646
01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:20.840
sixty eight two thousand and one A Space Odyssey. Happy

1647
01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:23.439
birthday to Gary Lockwood. What a cool guy, and those

1648
01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:27.720
contacts I understand were very uncomfortable. Happy birthday as well

1649
01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:31.119
to Anthony Daniels, the English actor who portrayed and voice

1650
01:40:31.159 --> 01:40:34.159
the droid C three Po in the Star Wars films.

1651
01:40:34.319 --> 01:40:37.600
He's the only actor to be credited in all nine

1652
01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:41.119
Star Wars episodic films, as well as Solo, a Star

1653
01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.000
Wars Story, Rogue One, a Star Wars Story, and the

1654
01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:48.680
animated feature Star Wars The Clone Wars. Wow, that's kind

1655
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:51.159
of a cool thing, and of course everybody knows that

1656
01:40:51.279 --> 01:40:54.239
voice and that mannerism. So Anthony Daniels, thank you so

1657
01:40:54.399 --> 01:40:58.960
much for being RC three Po for all these years.

1658
01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:02.560
Happy birthday to you, sir. Happy birthday as well to

1659
01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:06.560
Kyle McLachlin. He's best known for his collaborations with David

1660
01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:10.159
Lynch as Dale Cooper in Twin Peaks, which won him

1661
01:41:10.199 --> 01:41:14.720
a Golden Globe, and playing paul A Trades in Dune

1662
01:41:14.920 --> 01:41:19.159
the first one, not the latest one. Among his other roles,

1663
01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:23.079
he played Lloyd Gallagher in The Hidden and Cliff vander

1664
01:41:23.159 --> 01:41:28.079
Cave in The Flintstones, among very very many other things.

1665
01:41:28.319 --> 01:41:33.880
Happy birthday to the very talented Kyle McLaughlin. Happy birthday

1666
01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:39.239
as well to Edward James Almost, a name almost synonymous

1667
01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:43.119
with just cool. He's, of course the Mexican American actor

1668
01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:46.880
and director, best known for his roles as Detective Gaff

1669
01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:49.920
in Blade Runner and its sequel, Blade Runner twenty forty nine.

1670
01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:54.920
He was also Lieutenant Martin Marty Castillo in Miami Vice

1671
01:41:55.119 --> 01:41:58.520
back in the Day. But we all really really know

1672
01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:02.520
and love him as Comman William Adama in the reimagined

1673
01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:07.439
Battlestar Galactica. Could anybody hold more gravitas on screen than

1674
01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:11.119
that guy? During that series? It was a toss up.

1675
01:42:11.119 --> 01:42:14.239
He was fantastic. So yeah, I just have a lot

1676
01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:16.279
of respect for this guy. I love everything he does.

1677
01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:18.520
And he's got that cool, greedy voice too, which is

1678
01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:21.800
just kind of neat. So Edward James Almost, you were

1679
01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:24.239
born February twenty fourth, and we wish you a very

1680
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:27.760
very happy birthday and hope you have many more happy

1681
01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:31.840
birthday as well. To Jamila Jamil, the British actress television

1682
01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:36.760
presenter and activist who voiced Asensia in Star Trek Prodigy.

1683
01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:39.840
Kind of funny to only be known for your voice,

1684
01:42:39.880 --> 01:42:42.119
but you did a great job. I of course know

1685
01:42:42.239 --> 01:42:44.479
you from New Girl, which is another show that I

1686
01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:47.920
absolutely love. So Jamila Jamil, thank you so much for

1687
01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:50.479
your contributions to Star Trek and happy birthday to you.

1688
01:42:52.039 --> 01:42:54.800
And last but not least, on Paul's list, we'd like

1689
01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:58.880
to say happy birthday to the extremely talented and just

1690
01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:03.119
like a real like anchor I think of modern and

1691
01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:06.479
past Star Trek Jerry Ryan, of course, best known for

1692
01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:11.000
playing seven of nine on Voyager from the four season onward,

1693
01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:14.920
first appearing in that episode Scorpion Part two, and then

1694
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:17.359
of course later reprise that role in a quite a

1695
01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:20.159
different way, I think, and developed her character quite a

1696
01:43:20.159 --> 01:43:24.119
bit in Star Trek card extremely talented woman. I would

1697
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:26.920
love to meet her one day too. I know she's

1698
01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:28.880
done a couple of other things. We show a few

1699
01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:31.600
of them on the screen. I used to watch Boston

1700
01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:32.359
Legal back.

1701
01:43:32.239 --> 01:43:32.600
In the day.

1702
01:43:32.680 --> 01:43:37.079
That's kind of my one of my other guilty pleasures

1703
01:43:37.159 --> 01:43:42.000
legal shows. But man, Jerry Ryan, won't you come on

1704
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:43.960
our podcast? Don't wouldn't you like to talk about Star

1705
01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:46.399
Trek with us, that would be fun. Thank you very much.

1706
01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:50.680
Happy birthday, Jerry Ryan. I'm wanna pass this flaming birthday

1707
01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:51.600
candle over to Jim.

1708
01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:51.960
Jim.

1709
01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:53.479
I just don't know what to do with the people

1710
01:43:53.479 --> 01:43:54.279
who are still alive.

1711
01:43:54.279 --> 01:43:58.640
I don't have my spiel down.

1712
01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:07.239
I well, I try to customize the list, and I

1713
01:44:07.359 --> 01:44:10.680
customized that one for Paul because I knew Paul would

1714
01:44:10.680 --> 01:44:14.039
have a lot of things to say about those actors.

1715
01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:15.880
But he ran away.

1716
01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:23.920
Yeah, we have had situlating that we'll take it. Oh,

1717
01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:26.880
so I don't have a very big list, but I've

1718
01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:29.600
got some. I've got some good ones. I usually do klingons.

1719
01:44:29.920 --> 01:44:32.359
I do have one, but that's okay. I want to

1720
01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:36.920
throw it off by saying Happy birthday to Hannah Dakota

1721
01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:40.119
and She rose to prominence at the age of seven

1722
01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:44.800
her performance as Lucy Dawson in the film I Am

1723
01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:49.199
Sam for which she received a Screen Actor's Guild nomination,

1724
01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:54.359
making her the youngest nominee in Screen Actors Guild history.

1725
01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:59.560
How's that pretty cool? Huh. She also starred in Steven

1726
01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:02.720
spielberg as Many series Taken. I don't know if anybody

1727
01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:07.039
saw that, but it was a five part mini series

1728
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:10.359
about UFO abductions. It was It was a really good

1729
01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:14.000
show if you have not seen it. She also was

1730
01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:16.239
in War of the World with Tom Cruise, which I

1731
01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:19.039
happened to enjoy. And as I said earlier, because I

1732
01:45:19.039 --> 01:45:21.479
made a mistake because I'm not perfect, she wasn't pleased

1733
01:45:21.800 --> 01:45:26.159
stand by which is awesome. I mean an awesome movie.

1734
01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:28.199
A lot of Star Trek references, and she plays the

1735
01:45:28.239 --> 01:45:31.479
part beautifully. So check it out. It's not a sci

1736
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:33.800
fi movie exactly, but there's a lot of sci fi

1737
01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:37.880
references in it. Beautifully written, beautifully acted. Please check out

1738
01:45:37.920 --> 01:45:39.720
stand By Me with the coda fan and you won't

1739
01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:44.039
be disappointed. Okay. Next, I want to say happy birthday

1740
01:45:44.319 --> 01:45:47.840
to Peter Strauss and I threw him in here because

1741
01:45:48.239 --> 01:45:51.439
he started in Space Hunting The Adventures in the Forbidden

1742
01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:53.000
Zone in three.

1743
01:45:52.680 --> 01:45:58.960
D, which I saw in three way back at the

1744
01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:03.880
end of the day, and he coached ring in that movie.

1745
01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:09.119
And then on the screen. That's a cheap eighties movie.

1746
01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:12.279
My dad is I gotta, I gotta see it.

1747
01:46:12.359 --> 01:46:17.840
It's a lot of fun. Also, what's his name? Winston

1748
01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:23.600
from Ghostbusters is in it as well. Really remember the

1749
01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:27.119
actor's name right now. He's in it as well. And

1750
01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:30.479
it's just a fun ah, it's a lot of fun.

1751
01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:33.079
Mally Ringwald, isn't well. I love it, so.

1752
01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:44.560
Yeah, that's my kind of movie, a lot of fun.

1753
01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:48.319
It's a fun, campy eighties sci fi movie.

1754
01:46:48.479 --> 01:46:49.119
I'm all about it.

1755
01:46:49.279 --> 01:46:51.239
I did see it in three D back in the day,

1756
01:46:51.399 --> 01:46:53.680
but it's fun, so I had to throw that in here.

1757
01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:56.039
You're thinking of Ernie Hudson from Ghost.

1758
01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:02.840
Nie Hudson, Yes, he's as well as so anyways, Happy birthday, Peters.

1759
01:47:04.479 --> 01:47:07.239
I also want to say happy birthday to James Sloan.

1760
01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:11.760
He played Adair Jerk And I think one of the

1761
01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:15.840
best episodes of TNNG third season episode called The Defector,

1762
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:19.800
and uh you know, my favorite scene is the end

1763
01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:23.479
when the Romulins show up and uh you know, Fakar

1764
01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:27.159
gives the Q and the Klingon's the cloak and they

1765
01:47:27.239 --> 01:47:32.359
surrounded the Romulins that surrounded the enterprise. Excellent episode The Defector.

1766
01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:36.840
But personally I'm gonna say kapla to him because he

1767
01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:39.880
played Kim Tar in the seventh season episode First Born,

1768
01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:44.920
which actually Kim Tarr was actually Alexander from the future.

1769
01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:49.000
Coming in to tell him about to be a clean

1770
01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:53.199
warrior and not to be a lawyer, because in the

1771
01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:56.000
future Wharf dies in his arms depending his son on

1772
01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:57.600
the legal floor of the.

1773
01:47:57.560 --> 01:48:02.600
Klingon Home Worlds. That's a really fun, fine episode with Born,

1774
01:48:02.720 --> 01:48:05.319
but we also played Moral Paul and DS nine second

1775
01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:08.319
and fifth season episode The Ulternate and to be Gotten

1776
01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:14.239
and Borr Jattel and Voyager's first season episode, so check

1777
01:48:14.279 --> 01:48:16.039
those out if you want to see some of James

1778
01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:20.560
Sloan's really great work. And my last Star Trek actor

1779
01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:23.159
on my list. I've had a man crush on since

1780
01:48:23.199 --> 01:48:26.680
we first saw him on Discovery, and I want to

1781
01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:31.800
say incredibly happy birthday to the one the only Ancient

1782
01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:35.800
Mount who portrayed Captain Christopher Pike in the second season

1783
01:48:35.800 --> 01:48:38.640
of Star Trek Discovery, reprising the role on the second

1784
01:48:38.680 --> 01:48:41.399
season of Star Trek Short Treks, and as a series

1785
01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:44.920
lead in Strange New World. I also saw him on

1786
01:48:45.039 --> 01:48:49.239
Helen Wheels as Colin Bohannon. If you haven't seen Hell

1787
01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:52.520
on Wheels, it could he could easily be Captain Pike

1788
01:48:52.840 --> 01:48:57.199
in The Old Wings. He's an honorable character. He does

1789
01:48:57.239 --> 01:49:01.159
what's right, he defends the defense, list. He's very Captain

1790
01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:03.920
Pike ish, like if Captain Pike was riding around the

1791
01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:06.560
Old West on a horse, that would be him. And

1792
01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:11.199
I have one last birthday on my list, but unfortunately

1793
01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:15.600
is not here. I wanted to wish Anthony I will

1794
01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:20.439
need my birthday and send out a couple to Anthony.

1795
01:49:20.479 --> 01:49:26.520
Birthday to Anthony. Paul isn't here, So happy birthday. That's awesome,

1796
01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:30.399
And uh now it's time to move on to our

1797
01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:31.439
Star Trek News.

1798
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:34.359
I'm working on it.

1799
01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:37.359
I've got I've got like half of a thing put together,

1800
01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:39.960
so give me, give me a couple more weeks and

1801
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:41.439
we'll have a good intro here.

1802
01:49:42.479 --> 01:49:46.279
Next Star Trek News, I'm going to turn the microphone over.

1803
01:49:46.119 --> 01:49:49.159
To get to start with my favorite segment.

1804
01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:53.359
Shedner says, what that's right, William Shatner to go where

1805
01:49:53.359 --> 01:50:00.479
he's never gone before on a heavy metal album. Forget Yeah,

1806
01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:03.439
I know it just keeps getting better, right, forget about

1807
01:50:03.439 --> 01:50:03.960
second acts?

1808
01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:04.640
In American Life.

1809
01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:07.359
TV legend, William Shatner is up to his fourth, maybe

1810
01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:10.760
tenth act at this point. The ninety four year old

1811
01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:15.119
actor best known for playing the irascible James T. Clerk

1812
01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:18.640
on Kirk On the original Star Trek series and movies,

1813
01:50:18.680 --> 01:50:20.600
as well as police sargant T. J. Hooker in the

1814
01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:24.760
nineteen eighties. Is boldly going where even he hasn't gone before.

1815
01:50:25.479 --> 01:50:29.439
The multi hyphenite performer. I don't know what that means.

1816
01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:32.960
The multi hyphenet performer who made his musical debut in

1817
01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:37.399
nineteen sixty eight with the Beyond Bizarre The Transformed Man LP,

1818
01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:40.000
which if you haven't heard, you need to hear it.

1819
01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:43.880
It's fantastic, featuring his florid readings of the Beatles, Lucy

1820
01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:48.439
in the Sky with Diamonds and Elton John's Rocketman announced

1821
01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:59.479
that He's so good, It's so good, announced that he's

1822
01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:03.039
prepping his first heavy metal album at an age where

1823
01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:07.159
metal typically goes into your body rather than comes out.

1824
01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:09.880
This is a great article. I love it.

1825
01:51:11.479 --> 01:51:11.800
Quote.

1826
01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:17.119
I've I've explored space, I've explored time, which is news

1827
01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:23.239
to me. Now i explored distortion. Yes, you read that correctly.

1828
01:51:23.319 --> 01:51:27.479
I am releasing a heavy metal album, says Shatner. Thirty

1829
01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:32.640
five metal Virtuosos, thunderous guitars, Chaos with purpose, covers of

1830
01:51:32.760 --> 01:51:36.239
legends like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest and

1831
01:51:36.319 --> 01:51:40.920
a few originals forged in the same cosmic fire. He added,

1832
01:51:41.399 --> 01:51:46.239
the project is quite literally a gathering of forces, loud imagination,

1833
01:51:46.600 --> 01:51:52.279
honest intensity, unapologetic exploration. He promised that the collection will

1834
01:51:52.279 --> 01:51:56.119
be a gathering of forces. Each artist bring their fire,

1835
01:51:56.520 --> 01:52:00.680
their precision, their chaos. I chose them because they have

1836
01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:03.840
something to say and because metal demands honesty. I don't

1837
01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:07.760
disagree with that at all. It was added that the

1838
01:52:07.840 --> 01:52:11.079
idea was sparked during Shatner's sessions with metal band Nuclear

1839
01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:15.279
Messiah on their upcoming Black Flame concept album, on which

1840
01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:20.680
he lends his stentorian voice. That's a new word for

1841
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:24.560
me too. Is that like a ninety eight year old stentorian.

1842
01:52:24.159 --> 01:52:28.239
No, No, it's sort of like the deep resonance.

1843
01:52:28.920 --> 01:52:34.479
Yeah okay, oh yeah, okay, well, he adds that to

1844
01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:38.640
an intro crafted with ex Megadeth guitarist Chris Poland. When

1845
01:52:38.680 --> 01:52:41.960
Nuclear Messiah came to life, something clicked, Shatner said about

1846
01:52:41.960 --> 01:52:44.720
the album, due out at some point this year. It

1847
01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:48.399
wasn't just a track, it was a so prepare yourselves.

1848
01:52:48.680 --> 01:52:51.159
We are about to boldly headbang. No one has head

1849
01:52:51.159 --> 01:52:51.920
banged before.

1850
01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:54.159
Stay tuned.

1851
01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:58.439
The Metal Voyage begins this year you guys, I feel

1852
01:52:58.479 --> 01:53:01.439
like this album was made for me. I'm literally a

1853
01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:04.479
metal head and a Star Trek fan and it just

1854
01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:06.439
is coming together right now. Yeah.

1855
01:53:07.720 --> 01:53:09.840
Yeah, I I hope to be He's going to be

1856
01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:12.439
a Galaxy con and I hope to be able to

1857
01:53:14.199 --> 01:53:16.920
you know, get in line like early on, so he

1858
01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:21.319
doesn't like, uh, you know, wander on his stories and

1859
01:53:21.359 --> 01:53:24.000
take up all the question time because I have to

1860
01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:25.840
tell him we do a segment.

1861
01:53:26.279 --> 01:53:32.359
And called chat and also throw in Jim's favorite movie,

1862
01:53:32.479 --> 01:53:44.600
so you know, well just no, yes, well if we.

1863
01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:48.000
All promised to buy his album, but no, the the

1864
01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:51.039
the man that I met that co wrote that book

1865
01:53:51.079 --> 01:53:53.560
with him, said he doesn't do podcasts.

1866
01:53:54.560 --> 01:54:01.600
So ned some Raisin Brand Shatner.

1867
01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:06.520
Yeah on yourself.

1868
01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:08.359
No, he already did.

1869
01:54:09.439 --> 01:54:12.119
That's story.

1870
01:54:16.680 --> 01:54:21.760
Said that we got it was awesome. Gosh. So I

1871
01:54:21.800 --> 01:54:24.640
have for this this story in here for Paul, but

1872
01:54:25.039 --> 01:54:28.479
I guess I'll cover it. Staffleet Academy's first gay klingon

1873
01:54:28.680 --> 01:54:32.479
has the support of a Star Trek legend Star Trek

1874
01:54:32.520 --> 01:54:35.840
Starkleet Academy isn't afraid to break boundaries and shake up

1875
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:39.640
the Star Trek status. Quote. Indeed, the shows seventh season

1876
01:54:39.640 --> 01:54:43.720
episode Cosine, which we'll talk about next week. We're we behind,

1877
01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:48.520
has now made Jade and Craig the first canonically queer

1878
01:54:48.600 --> 01:54:54.720
king of Connects. Yeah, okay, tongue twister. For me, Jaden

1879
01:54:54.840 --> 01:54:58.119
was already a pretty unusual klingon being a healer rather

1880
01:54:58.199 --> 01:55:02.479
than a traditional warrior, and that was before Cozine showed

1881
01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:05.920
him with his boyfriend Kyle and flirting with his friend

1882
01:55:05.960 --> 01:55:10.159
and classmate Darren. I don't think they were actually flirting,

1883
01:55:10.199 --> 01:55:14.680
but that's my opinion. Jaden's inclusion of the Starfleet Academy

1884
01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:18.199
feels huge, but it was a long time in the making.

1885
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:22.119
The Star Trek franchise has a complicated history with the

1886
01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:28.039
LGBTQIA plus representation, so the show has always aimed to

1887
01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:30.880
be inclusive and progressive. One of its earliest stars was

1888
01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:33.920
a gay man who felt trapped in the closet until

1889
01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:37.760
much later in his life. Actor Joe Kai starred as

1890
01:55:37.800 --> 01:55:41.159
Attendant Hikarro Sulu, the helmsman of the USS Enterprise, on

1891
01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:44.399
Star Trek the original series, and has since become a

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queer rights champion. Thankfully, Takai is completely supportive of Jaden

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and Diane. According to Kareem Diane. He ran into George

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to Kay and his husband Brad at a Broadway show

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and got their contact information. He later emailed them and

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received a heartfelt email back that explained how meaningful it

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was for both of them to see Diane step into

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a queer role on a Star Trek show. There's something

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profoundly moving about seeing a klingon character who defies stereotypes,

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a young cathet discovering himself. Why honoring his heritage, the

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fact that your character is about to step fully into

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his authentic self in ways that previous Star Trek had

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to whisper about as exactly what Gene Rodenbery would have

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dreamed possible. Jayden isn't the first canonically queer Star Trek character. Oh,

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by the way, George wrote that to him. Kaanyiek Newsome's

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wonderful Becket Mariner on Star Trek. Lower Dex is an

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explicitly queer woman herself, for example, and the shows like

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Star Trek eat Space Nine helped me feel seen as

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a young queer person. Seeing an openly gay klingon a

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Starfleet academy is a pretty massive step forward. Jaden is

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a ground baking Klingon while a whole bunch of different ways.

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And it's wonderful that dorothe de Kay, your original patron

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saint of Queer Treki's, has recognized the moment for what

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it is, and that is my story and the you

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got the right one.

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Star Trek filming rap could end could mark end of

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nine year Paramount Plus era Star Trek Starfleet Academy actors

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announced that they wrapped filming season two, and here's what

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this means for Paramount Plus's Star Trek TV franchise. Executive

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produced by Alex Kurtzman. Star Trek Starfleet Academy is one

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of the two remaining Star Trek shows on Paramount Plus.

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Star Trek Exchange New Worlds wrapped its fifth and final

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season in December twenty twenty five, and has seasons four

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and five banked and waiting to premiere Paramount Plus. Yeah

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No Kidding, we Gotta wait. Rated fresh at eighty eight

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percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Starfleet Academy is warping towards its

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season one finale, with three episodes remaining to premiere on

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Paramount Plus. However, Paramount Plus ordered Starfleet Academy Season two

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during season one's production and the second season has been

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filming at the Star Trek Stage at Pinewood Studios, Toronto

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the past several months. On their Instagram stories, Cariice Brooks,

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who play Sam, Gina Yesher who plays Commander Laura Thock,

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and Kareem Diane, who plays Jaden Cragg, announced they've wrapped

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filming Asta Trek Starfleet Academy Season two. Who Executive producer

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and co showrunner Alex Kurtzman directed Starfleet Starfleet Academy Season

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two's finale, just as he helmed season one's first two episode.

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It marks the end of production of Star Trek executive

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produced by Kurtzmand and secret as Starfleet Academy Season two,

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as well as the final two seasons of Strange New

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Worlds await their premieres. The future of Paramount Plus's Star

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Trek franchised is up in the air after sky Danced

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Media acquired Paramount Global in twenty twenty five, a hideout

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which has overseen all of Paramount's Paramount Plus the Star

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Trek series in Star Trek Discovery twenty seventeen. Starfleet Academy's

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social media presence, especially on TikTok, Instagram and the platforms

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most used by its targeted young adult audience is strong.

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Hopefully Paramount Plus will order Starfleet Academy season three and

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even better season four to give Caleb mir Jaden Craig, Sam,

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Genesis Life, Dram Remi, Terima Saddal, and Ocam Sadal their

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complete four year college experience and graduation to become full

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fledged Starfleet officers.

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Wow, let's home, let's host, so that my friends wraps

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up the show. Can you believe it? Another successful in

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the books. And next week we're going to talk about

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the Cosine, which is the episode that was on last week.

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We'll talk about that next week. That's another fun one

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I'm looking forward to talking about. And that's pretty much

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different if we dies. I want to wrap everything up

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and say thank you so much to Eric for hanging

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out and Shrek talking with us tonight.

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Thank you so much, Eric, absolutely, thank you guys for

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being here every single Thursday.

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And thank you to Paul who had to run early,

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but thank you so much, Paul. And thank you to

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David who's our miracle worker for hanging out with us

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and setting up these awesome slide shows because I screw

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them up when I try to do them. But it's great.

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Somehow might banana disappeared?

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Well, a lot, not moldy cheese. That's the important thing.

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That's that's not good. That's not titulatingating. How many new

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words did we learn tonight?

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Titulating wing, it's okay, sounds good, word worth.

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I think the question is how many times can a

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word be mispronounced? And I think you know, we're gonna

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do a word count afterward and we'll figure it out,

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talk about start five.

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You know, it's a lot of thank you so much

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for hanging out with us tonight.

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Thank you so much, child always fun.

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Of course, thank you to the for hang out as always.

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Let me most accent host Uncle Jim saying everybody please

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stay safe and be good to each other, live along

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and hailing frequencies are clothes, good night, everyone along, and

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prosper good night. I had more war book heading, sir.

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Out there

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That a way