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Episode 667 Comic Corner- Lower Decks issue 8 and 9 review

Episode 667 Comic Corner- Lower Decks issue 8 and 9 review
Episode 667 Comic Corner- Lower Decks issue 8 and 9 review
Trek Talking
Episode 667 Comic Corner- Lower Decks issue 8 and 9 review
In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim the cohosts celebrate the New Year and engage with fans through shout outs and discussions about upcoming guests. They dive into the excitement surrounding the Starfleet Academy trailer and participate in trivia challenges that explore classic sci-fi shows like Lost in Space and Battlestar Galactica. The conversation highlights the legacy of Doctor Who and the nostalgia for iconic series, culminating in a final trivia showdown among the hosts. In this episode, the hosts delve into their nostalgia for classic sci-fi shows, particularly 'Land of the Giants', while also discussing the latest issues of the 'Lower Decks' comic series. They share their thoughts on character portrayals, the humor within the comics, and the excitement surrounding upcoming Star Trek news, including casting announcements for iconic characters. The conversation also touches on the challenges faced by toy manufacturers and the importance of transparency in the industry. Overall, the episode is filled with humor, camaraderie, and insightful commentary on the state of Star Trek media.

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0:51 About the series to the series. Well, good evening, Trekkies and Trekers around the Globe. It's Thursday, January eight, twenty twenty six. You heard it right, twenty twenty six. That's right. We made it, but I don't know for how long, but we're here for now anyways.

1:39 And welcome to episode six hundred and sixty seven of Trek Talking and Beyond. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast. And before we go too far, I want to go around and introduce all my awesome treksperts. And we're going to start off with Paul the toy guy. He's out in Portland. How you doing tonight, Paul, Yeah, Uncle Jim, I'm doing well. Their Happy new year to you. Uh and uh. I hope everyone's enjoying our new imperial lifestyle now that we're part of an imperialist more like, uh, you know, a group of sword brandishing, come swallowing bastards. I think that you know, we've are our identity has been cemented for perpetuity.

2:25 So there you go. Doesn't it feel good? I feel good. It's I am just thrilled beyond words. I can't express it. It's just that exciting. We'll also have with us, hey doing all right? Just uh yeah, glad to be here. Just want to yeat a bunch of people out of the nearest airlock, you know. That's my solution. So I got to get Darth Vader masks and stuff reads. Yeah, our light sabers and putting out orders sixty six on the rest of the world. And we also have with us our very own ak. He's also out in Portland.

3:10 How you doing tonight? I am doing great. It is Friday's eve. I needed a little bright spot. I was actually looking for this podcast all week just because I was like, okay, I just make it to Thursday night. We got the podcast. That'll be fun hang out with some people will talk about some star trek. So here we are. We did it, we made. We made it. We made it. And we also have with Charles Is, but he is Las Vegas. How you doing? I'm doing all right. I think the city is getting pushed a half a centimeter south today with the wind.

3:52 So are you saying that it's windy in Vegas. Winning enough to knock power out to some places? That's that's windy. That is windy. It's unseasonably warm up here. It's forty six. In Vermont, it's melting all the snow and wreaking havoc with everything. It's crazy. And we also our very own miracle worker David, who believe it or not, is in Portland as well. How are you doing, David? Oh we're live fine. Yeah, guys, I'm doing great. I'm so glad that we've moved on to the next year.

4:36 And if I get carried away by natch, don't blame me. We are having such a weird nap problem right now. But yeah, it's really one for the season. You are needing that that moldy cheese again? Oh? Probably did you? Did you say gnats, as in the tiny insect. Oh, yeah, they're very nats. Gross. Yeah, it's all those tangerines that he stuffed under his mattress. I don't even know what that means. Yeah, Happy New Year. Here's some theme. So if you guys have missed any of our previous podcasts from twenty twenty five point three, do you get the idea? You can go to check tak in dot com and find them all there. So please go over there and check that out. While you're there, you can become a patron for only two dollars a month. You can help support the podcast. We'd really appreciate it. It'd be great a little bit of housekeeping. Next week, next week, same bat time, same bat channel. We have a real treat for you guys.

5:47 We're gonna have a live right here in the studio. Margaret. Why a camp And you're saying, uncle Jim, who in the hell is that? Well, go and look her up on theline. Do a little bit of research yourself. She's a very fascinating lady. She's the chair of the Space History Department of the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, DC. She personally oversaw the restoration of the Original Enterprise, which is currently set up lights up every hour on the hour, and she's written a couple of great books. You guys can check those out and have some questions ready for her. She'll be with us here next week, so that's going to be a lot of fun. This week, though, we're going to be talking about Lower Decks issue eight and nine because Comic Corner is back. It's been a while and that made some perfect sense to jump back in, So this is going to be Comic Corner starts for at Lower Decks issues number eight and nine. We also have our Fans shout outs where we thank fans just like you for listening to us and how do you become a fan? And our fans shoutouts go to our Facebook page, tell us where you're from, be some emojis with for heart next to your name, YadA, YadA, YadA, and you'll be on Fanshchat. We also have a single one single star Trek poll this week which pertains to well, something that's going on next week. You'll find out when we get to our polls. And in place of our polls, we have Trivia with Uncle Jim and this week is

7:18 going to be name that sci fi tune and I think you guys are going to enjoy it. It's going to be fun. I've got some good stuff no queens for David. I promise you that he will know these ones. We also have our sci Fi birthdays and David has a brand new sci Fi birthday's logo to share with you guys. I think you'll enjoy it. And what's going on around the Star Trek universe. I guess who's coming to strange new worlds I wonder, And no new Star Trek figures yet and we'll get into that. So that, my friends, is what we have plan for this week's show.

8:02 And we're going to dive right in and start off with our fans shout outs. And as I said earlier, if you would like to be mentioned in a fan shout out, all you have to do is go to our Facebook page to Live Long and Prosper, which is pinned right to the top of pay tell us where you're from some Emolia's look for a heart truly, and that means you will be featured n a fan shout out? So, Eric, are you ready for some fan shout outs? Am I? Ever? Jim? I think like many Star Trek fans who listen to the podcast or are on other places on this planet. Trevor Cook is currently living in Essex, UK, but he's originally from another planet. Yes, he's from Beijor, and so Trevor shout out to you and all the other Bajorans out there living in diaspora here on this crappy old planet.

8:57 I hope you're having a good time over there in Essex. Also saying hello this week to John Quinn, who is hailing from Scotland and saying hello to us from that wonderful part of the planet. John Quinn, I cannot wait to go to Scotland someday. It's one of those places that I just kind of like I want to see. I want to soak in the humidity of Scotland, the moss of Scotland, the food. Honestly, so thank you so much for listening and supporting our podcast. We really appreciate it. Rising fan Lalo Mayhea from Peru is listening to our podcast right now, and Rising Fan means that Lalo is paying lots of attention to us right now on our Facebook page and contributing by liking, saying hello, commenting, etc.

9:47 And you two can be a rising fan and or other levels of fan on our Facebook page if you like to interact in that way. Solalo, thanks for interacting with us on our Facebook page. And last but not least, I want to say hello to Nico Vate this week, who sends us no words but cleverly sends us a beautiful German flag and a livelong and prosper hand symbol. Peace and long life to you, Nico v Who would you like to say hello to this week? First off, I'd like to say hello and a thank you to Stephen Mackie who is saying hello to us from Illinois, USA, and I get two exclamation points and to live long and prosper hands, so thank you for that.

10:36 Then I have David Hand from North Carolina sending us a shout out. Next, Ivory J. Carr Jones from lovely Washington State, USA, and then last but not least, Sean mad Hatter Stewart from Eastern Canada shout out to you and thank you all for being fans. All right, I am going to send this off to Charles. Well, thank you. The let's start off the warm Welcome to Matthew Barkley from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Welcome Matthew. Welcome Anthony Ramirez, who gives us a live, long and prosperous symbol, and greeting is from Seattle, Washington. Greeting is Anthony. I'll probably be back in your neck of the woods sometime on Labor Day. Love my visit to Seattle. Then, Welcome to Brenda Stones from Missouri. Welcome Floyd. Anthony Claxton from Tennessee. Welcome.

11:48 I think Paul wants to spend that globe again. I do. I sort of feel strange deep need to leave the United States currently. I'm not sure why. So I'm going to pay homage to other countries in this segment, and let's start off with our good friend top fan Mario Vargas from the idyllic land of Costa Rica. Poor Avida, my friend, Poor Avida. It is an amazing place that you live. I'm fortunate enough to have been there myself and not mind going back anytime. It's a lovely place, full of wildlife and amazing things. A little further away back in the continent, we're going to go over and say hello to Andreas Reich in Denmark. Denmark, you got lots going on with Denmark these days, andres various remote land masses seem to be garnering a lot of attention.

12:43 So sending you a lot of strength and fortitude for the uncertain hilarity that is coming your way. All right, and then there, don't buckle over in my home turf Yorkshire, UK, John Wilson saying hello to us. Good to hear from me, John, I hope things are going well there in the UK. Any chance you guys are considering rejoining the EU. I've heard rumblings that is the smolling maybe bring the Euro back into favor. I think that there could be something to keep an eye on that, John, So look, give your thoughts Chiming baby. And then back to Bonnie Scotland again. It's Ronnie Beaton saying hello. So see, you've got folks all over the place, South America, Europe, whatever part of the globe that our evil overlord's covet gaining overship ownership up, We've pretty much got fans there. That's how I would describe it, wouldn't you agree, Uncle Jim?

13:46 Absolutely I would agree. And we're gonna bring it back to the old us of a and we're going to say hello and welcome to Dennis Gore who's listening to us in Buffalo, New York where it's probably snowing now who knows. Thank you for listening to Dennis. We also want to say hello and thank you to Norman tom Zaser who says hello from Maine. Stephen King's stomping Brown. And we have David Lee West who's listening to us in northern Minnesota. And last but not least on my list, I want to say hello and thank you to Bob Moon, who's listening to us in Ohio. If you guys would like to be featured on a finish shout out, please head over to our Facebook page Trek Talking and Beyond.

14:32 You'll see to live long and prosper a post pinned right at the top of the page. Please please drop us a line and tell us where you're from, lid some emojis, and be part of our Star Trek family. And now it's time for Star Trek polls. A brief Paul, anyways. You know me like no when what you thought about the show? When we try to share your opinions with all of our minions out there. Because they listen worldwide. So tell us just what you think.

15:16 Get together. We will all drink canar and robulin ale ton. All right, so Eric, we have one quick pull and you want to want to dig right in? Yeah, sure, I mean exactly one week from tonight, just about this time, well maybe a little sooner, I will be on this podcast, but immediately afterward, I personally will be headed to the television because on one fifteen, twenty twenty six, we've got our double episode premiere of Starfleet Academy.

15:58 That's right, new star Trek, brand new star Trek right here, next week, seven days away. And the question was will you be watching the double episode premiere of Starfleet Academy next week? And eighty four percent of our responders said yes, I will be watching that double episode premiere. Sixteen percent, unfortunately, did say that they will not be watching the premiere, which in my mind takes away their right to complain about it. So there you go. I agree. Only it were that simple. Yes, I know, so wrong, David, you're ready to roll the tape. Well it's not really a tape, but actually okay, yeah, you're.

16:43 Talking about trailer. He's a miracle worker. Allright, here we go, there we go. At Starfleet Academy. You will learn the skills that shaped our greatest officers, officers who went on to become legendary. A few courageous people began to realize they can make a difference. To conquer you with weapons, but to coexist and learn the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Risk is our business. That's what the Starship is all about. The true testable warrior is not without, it is within.

17:25 Then life we can only look forward. We have to be torch bearers. We have no idea of the dangers we're going to face, but. I'm here to remind you of the. Power of possibility. The past is written, the future is left for. Us to write. Whatever challenges came before today led you to this woman, and now you decide if they define you. Hm his Friends is the final first Starfleet Academy, which is next week believe it or not, the same Bat time, same BAT channel. And I got to say that trailer, Yeah, they pulled out all the stocks on that. Yeah.

18:19 I well, you know, I mean that it's a really smart trailer in my mind, because one of the things that they did when Discovery came out was they almost were proud of the the fact that it was kind of a separate thing, and I think that that actually worked against a lot of people warming up to it at the beginning, despite the many of us who did like it right from the start. And here you've used the nostalgia of all of these other characters that we know and love from previous Star Trek series and their voices in the trailer, and it automatically just kind of makes us go, oh, this is great. This is Star Trek, this is exactly Star Trek. So I think it's brilliant. Absolutely, I'm looking forward to it for sure. All Right, so are you guys ready for some trivia with Uncle Jim? Okay, gonna be fun.

19:10 And you know what that music means. It's once again time to put on your thinking caps and join us for Star Trek trivia time with Uncle Jim. All Right, you guys already, I think you're gonna have some fun. I really think you're gonna enjoy this one. And again I tried to pick shows for each person that I'm pretty sure you're gonna know. I'm not trying to go out of the way that I'm trying to just have some fun here. So Charles gets the first one. Are you ready, Charles? No, but you can fire anyway. All right.

19:51 Ahead, here we go. This series premiered in nineteen ninety seven and ran for ten seasons, based on a Russell Yeah, all right, Charles, the pressure.

21:01 Is on, and I think the rest of the crew knows it. And I wasn't keeping up with a lot of television that time because of college. It's a. Oh yeah, well, yes, the star Yeah, Stargate SG one, which I hadn't. Yeah, I've got the DVDs over there, and I've got the uh, the shirt with the emblems on it in my closet, and I got a. I was like that theme song because to me it has a real kind of like militaristic sort of feel to it, which I think fits with Stargate really well.

21:50 I like it, and I love Gosh, Richard Dean Anderson. I had such I've had such a huge crush on him watching that was during the pandemic when I disc ever did and oh my god, he's so hot and so funny, funny as heck, and it's always you know the thing, you know, it's O'Neil with two l's and holds up three fingers so because that's the joke distinguishing him from Kurt Russell's O'Neill, who had just one l So there you go. You know, I loved the original movie, but I thought the series was much better. It went in a much different direction. And I love.

22:30 Me too. You know what, You're the next one on the hot seat, right, and so you're you're one for one, and I guarantee that you're going to be two for two. I guarantee it. Okay, but I guaranteed that last time with David with the Queens, and I don't know. It's oh yeah, okay, we go. This animated series premiated in twenty twenty and ran for five seasons. Oh I know, I know what it is. H m hm.

23:20 Stack tack that. Mm hmmm. Mm hm hm hm it doesn't it?

24:06 Okay, no looking, no looking at Eric. Sure, so cover up, Eric. Now, I knew exactly as soon as you said, uh man, that is a damn fine theme song. That is just great, and they changed it slightly every season with the animation. That is, of course star Trek lower decks and I am lower decked out. Yes, all is my retrod. Oh so when I when I want a deep dive. We deep dive with.

24:48 My regulator on. I'm ready to sumerge. Like Paul is usually right there with me. So we're going to do a deep dive. Okay. This series ran for one season in nineteen seventy five and led to an animated series, which also ran for one season, based on a popular series of five movies. Are you ready?

25:30 You can cut? You can cut. I don't need to hear the whole things, Unfortunately I can't. Oh dear, we're gonna play the entire theme song our way. I like more of a name that tune thing where you got like fifteen seconds and then you have right, it's like, you know, we can keep. Up on home. Let's say. Steek's doing Oh my. God, So were there like opening credits over this theme song?

26:11 Then? Oh yeah, absolutely, very much. Trying to evoke the legacy of the movies, right, with a lot of similar kind of but they cast two guys who are very much like Starsky and Hutch though right they looked like I did. It was like Starsky and Hutch and the Planet of the Apes really is what is what the show was like. But it's really good, I have to say, right and the Evil were. Of course, to clarify now that the song is over, we're talking about the short lived but really good I planned the Ape Stev series. It was like Friday Nights, right, and they had Mark Leonard right as the evil Gorilla General General Erco. I believe it was mistaken and he was great. He was very to hear.

26:51 You know, Mark Leonard doing chewing the scenery is a bad guy. They didn't get much better than right, and he was like, I will put them in his their brains out and it was great. So really fun. Yes, Friends available on DVD and I'm not sure about Blu ray, but I know it's available on so check it out, go to YouTube, whatever. But Planet of the Apes good stuff. Vintage of the original play the Plane of the Apes on the show. To Running McDowell, didn't you played Galen. Yeah, it's like it's very like it's a different name. You played a character in Galen. But it was exactly like you know, Cordelia's right, It was basically he's still doing the same thing. But but it's just great because you know, phenomenal guy and nobody does better under the makeup than Running McDowell. So it's really funny. If you've never watched an episode, go check it out. It's it is very starsky Hutch. They got everything with the red Ford to Reno right, but.

27:50 That would have been a hilarious I'm dim, dim cloudy memories of a man zine. I think they combined the two because. Yeah, I think I vaguely remember that, you know the because I loved Mad Magazine? Is it surprising that I read a lot of Mad Magazine? Does this shock he does not. Want when they had the star Trek? I think is at the end of the credits. One of the most memorable scenes in Planet of the Apes is where Erco is on the horse and the sun is setting behind him in all orange and he holds the rifle up over that. I couldn't be more It's.

28:38 A great show, really really cool, and it's making me think of another TV series. I wonder if we're going to give me getting to later on in this segment, so I'm waiting to see. We shall find out. I got one from Eric uh oh. This mainteen Glen Morgan and James Wong series lasted for only one season. A boy, all right. Yeah, I think.

29:21 There'd be more good. Very militaristic. That's ahia. Yeah, speaking of militaristic man that that snare drum never stops throughout that whole theme. I'm pretty sure that that is space above and beyond. Right, that's right, yeah, yeah, so coold show. Yeah, and I knew well the there thank you.

30:01 That's great, all right, David David David David David. So, I okay, this is holdy, but it's definitely a goodie. Okay. This nineteen ninety three Steven Spielberg series ran for three seasons and starred Roy Scheider. Mhmm, the talking dolphin. William Shatner showed up. I didn't happen, queen did this the Queen?

31:17 Okay, it's just a Is it based on sci fi? Or is it more of a fantasist. Very very deep, deep deep show, because for some. Odd reason it reminds me of Robin Hood, like one of the old TV shows. But I actually have no idea. We'll give you a hint. We often talk about it being a space show not set in space. Starring Roy Scheider of Jaws fame. He said we're gonna need a bigger boat and he got it.

32:00 That was that's great. No, no, no, said he needed a bigger boat, and then he got lot in this. Series, got a much bigger boat. Yeah, it's all streamlined. Yeah, kind of. Rhymes with cheap quest DVC. I'm completely okay. Video. Yeah that was that was you got some you got some. Watching to do, so it was great. I don't know what it is.

32:40 I've forgotten that was on for three seeds. Yeah, so David, it's it's sequest DSV and if you have never seen it, you should check it out because it's a pretty darn cool series. And it's not it's only three seasons. It is the twenty whatever three episodes per season, twenty four episodes per but you know it's not. And despite the constant stream of vanity coming out of my mouth, I do like to make sure I say a few educational things occasionally in every broadcast. And DSV stands for a deep Submergence vehicle, so just so you know what the DSV stands for. Otherwise it's like, oh, pointless acronym, and you know my line of work, we're always explaining what the acronyms mean. So there's no computer And.

33:20 Robert from the Woods Institute would come on and give a scientific explanation of each episodes every week, which we always fascinating. No area, so good. Who are you ready comedian? Okay, yes again. That was Sequest was like the newest show I could come up with on my list because I figured David would remember from eighty three, but all right, he definitely won't get the next one. This yeah Collin.

34:01 Series ran for three seasons and and spawn a motion picture and a second series which aired on Nextflix. Oh hell yeah, I was like, I wasn't sure that. I was like, okay, yeah, I got it. Oh yeah, yeah, there we go. Awesome, so cool.

34:42 Oh my gosh. I loved you having choice from you to. Wow. Do you know that one? Believe it? I saw that? Ye visual. Okay, okay, I think we're talking about Landa the Giants, right absolutely, yeah, No, we're talking about Lost in Space.

35:27 Sorry, I have to reach out and just go. Always so kissed at me. It was really funny. Excusing excusing there for a minute. No, I actually Lost in Space was another one of those like after school shows that was in syndication in the early eighties. So I saw fair number episodes. I watched it when it was originally on so way to go making me feel ancient. Yeah, and then they when they went to color because the first season was black and white, right, And then when they went to color season too, they changed the theme song. It's actually really I like the season two theme song maybe even better. Yeah, it was very exciting, you know, and this is crazy stuff. But the Carrot men everywhere we salute.

36:15 You, you know, the actually the Kay Penny on that show into What. Yeah. So I wasn't at a spare checker mentioned out in Las Vegas, and I was in charge of the green room anybody in mind, And they had the entire TG cast there, And this is back when the Sci Fi Channel was actually doing sci fi and they had a film crew there that was filming, and uh, the car walks in. It's is on the table me and my buddy and said what do you guys think about loss of face? And I looked right at her and I said that ghost he said, here and the entire TG crew, why are they wasting time with Lost in Space? Oh? Deepault over? She goes over.

37:09 They put up the big thing behind her with Lost his Space And I'm like, oh my god, I just a woman from Loss of Space at her shows Oh my, I slunk out the back of ards and that was it. Yeah, my word. I had no idea. Honestly, your show sucked. Oh man, oh I would like. I would not recommend a career in Hollywood for you, Jim. I would perhaps maybe I don't know, something like accounting. Perhaps I don't know. Pantic store that sat down at the table. I had to be here anyway while I was at the Star Trek recommend put the pressure on you.

37:56 Okay, all right. This nineteen seventy Glenn Larson series ran for two seasons, although I would be challenged to call a second season us I have. Anyways, there we go. There are those who believe that life here again, out there far across the universe, with tribes. Of humans who may have been. The forefathers of the or the Taltics or the Mayans. Some believe that there may yet be brothers a man who even because of our somewhere beyond the heavens.

38:49 David knows this one. Sure, Wait, I know I know the music. Yeah. Lauren Green did his Yeah yeah. Battle Star Galactica. Yeah yeah, because I met I met Richard. I met Richard Hatch way back in eighty four. Yeah, this is the little Richards original, very very first after I ever interviewed on this podcast, he was did absolute.

39:33 I was sad when he did, Yeah, now this is good. This is the original things nineteen eighty. Yeah, we don't. We don't often acknowledge about BS eighty. There is one episode of the second season that I highly recommended, the only episode and that has to return. If you haven't seen that, you got to watch that one. Start going yeah. Because I asked Richard Hatch because it was him and Walter Kanig that were at this very early, very small uh con and I just came up just, you know, weird question. I said, so working with Lorne Green, you know, how was that? And did he ever talk about the Alpo dog food? Because he, for me he was he was having the Alpo commercials where he was selling dog food, and Richard just went on said, yeah, he wouldn't shut up about it. In fact, he even ate the stuff.

40:42 I'll never forget that nice not he didn't really, it was just joking, but yeah, that was funny. Yep, he was so much fun ch We're gonna we're gonna put the spotlight on you, buddy. I like to have had the last one. No, you're you're, you're, You're gonna get this. And let me tell you what. If you don't get this one, I'm gonna put the pressure on you. So if you don't get this one, you're off the podcast. Dang, watching your.

41:25 Quessure is annual for this question. Okay, jeez, this one. God. So here we go the contract very carefully. Just you guys have a contract. Oh yeah, you don't. I apologize because I couldn't tell you what theme this is, so I'm not even going to attempt it. I'm sure I got the wrong one, but you're okay. This series premiered in nineteen sixty three and has run for twenty six consecutive seasons. I couldn't tell you what season, but if I'm telling you, if you don't get it, your camera's going black and you're getting.

42:11 I don't even think you need to play the music I want to hear with me. I don't know which one is. I know it's not. This isn't the this is tenant. I think this is tennant. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I appreciate. Yeah, I think it's a tenant. Yeah it's not. It's not the Lady doctor that one. Sounds like the original one to me.

42:51 So so, Charles, are we are we gonna be a black camera or do you know this? Oh? I think this was right around the two thousand six seven eight season when we got to see Rose and the Master. And David. Oh, what are great seasons of Doctor Who? Mm hm Doctor Who? See. I knew you were going to I knew you would know that one.

43:34 Oh. I had to sit down and think. I was like, Okay, which theme? Which which one of the uh show themes? Is that one? It's like, yeah, I agree with I agree with Eric. I'm pretty sure this was tenants yees. The like general theme is the same among all the doctors, but then when you listen to the theme songs, they changed little things like the exact way they make the sound, but that that melody has been around forever, but it's just like it sounds a little bit different than every new doctor. Yeah. I just went to YouTube and typed in Doctor Who theme and that popped up and there it was. I have no idea what it is, but it is. David, You're get a chance to redeem yourself, buddy man, no plush on you and this one other than we've heard it before, we talked about it before, you put the video together for it before, so maybe maybe some of that will sink in.

44:37 Uh. This nineteen seventy five Jerry Anderson series ran for two seasons British Television. Are you ready? And this is the season one theme? Well, I'm gonna have to get my donuts? You know what? Well when I was. Like Hope hearing out getting out. Yep, h Space nineteen ninety nine, I knew him.

45:18 Would all aids. That's awesome. Yeah, so much better than the season two themes. I know. I was hoping that he would have, because if I did, I would. More dance party. You ready imagine things blowing up, moving very fast. That seems. A lot of si.

45:58 Anderson loves bottom pants and Martin Landau just glaring at you here. And crazy a show man? Let's show? What a show? Indeed? So Paul, you get the last one? Buddy, okay, man, why can't I find my notes where they are? Okay? This is an Irwin Allen show. I don't have any information on it because I'm going to put the pressure on it. That's okay, all good, and here we go. I think it's anyways, join Allen.

47:38 The Land of the Giants friends. I am lucky. In my collection, I have a Land of the Giants metal lunchbox, thank you very much. The mis Intact. So yeah, great stuff, hilarious. But they just did the craziest things on the show. I mean it was just you know, the ridiculous you know, a spool of thread the size of like a bus, right, they would do stuff like that because you know, everybody's been shrunk down. They're like tiny, little two inch people. It's it's like very much like the old Richard Matheson picture right, the incredible Shrinking Man. And so it was just basically they took that idea and just riffed it off into a TV show, but really really fun. I mean, you know you can still watch it in enjoyable Asack Irwin Allen knew how to enter game people man he was he was a shellman.

48:30 That was fun. I love the trivia segment. It is like my favorite part of the show. The audio was a nice like. The name that tune version of Uncle Jim's Trivia. More. I got the idea after the old Gerard passed and we played the buck graduals, and I thought, well, there's a lot more the songs out there. Let's have some fun with it. Yeah, I mean you can play this every week for months and never write the songs. Well, I wanted to give it a shot, so we epic man, good call. I think it was fun. So that brought us up the survey with Uncle Jim. And now we're going to move into a corner talk about Lower Decks eight and nine. And for that we're going to turn to Paul give us a quick a quick run down, and uh, then we'll dig right in and talk about the issue.

49:29 Okay, friends, comic time, and some of us still prefer the tangible magic of the go to your comic book shop, uh paper comic. Right, And so we are talking about issue number eight of the awesome Lower Decks series from our good pals at I d W there. And this particular book eight that we're talking about here concludes a two part flashback story that began in issue seven, where Captain Carol Freeman Captain el Freeman, as we know, Mariner's mom, recounts her time as in when she was an ensign to her daughter Beckett Mariner. Right, So the story focuses on Ensign Freeman. Then Ensign Freeman and Ensign Durango rising to the challenge when their USS Illinois is in peril during a clash with the Romulans. Right, and so she's basically trying to just convey bonding wise to her daughter.

50:26 You know that. Yeah, you know, I too was once and nobody screw up, and there's a lot of mother daughter bonding on the cerritos is like a framing deal, right. And so during a patrol along the Romulin neutros zone, the Illinois is engaged by a Romulan warbird, right, and surprise, surprise, This is where my good friend Eric gets a little excited because a lot of this whole comic is all about doctor Catherine Pulaski. Right, Actually, I am a commander what And she takes over, right and becomes commander of the ship, and the rest of the crews kind of disappeared because of some kind of unsanctioned transport experiment that's going on, Right, we don't really need to worry about that.

51:08 But because Freeman disagrees with Pulaski's tactics, Freeman takes responsibility for rectifying the situation, and they decide to try to outwit the Rymulins by retrieving their missing crew members before they can be killed, either all at once or one by one or in by volume, whatever method of efficiency, the Rhemulins decide to go for right, and then a little twister Rooney at the end there doctor Pulaski's revelation that her actions were deliberate and she was trying to manipulate the ends and solve problems themselves, to step up and exhibit their potential for leadership. And then at the very end there was a funny bit. I'm betting David has an image of it right on the holodeck, and Carol's taking them on her version of a crazy Holodex ski program.

52:01 Pumped through it in honor of Eric's favorite CMO, A giant crazy daredevil ski mountain that's shaped like doctor Pulaski's you know, magnificently quaft hair, which was never so magnificently quaft on the show, but boy, it sure was quafft in that last panel. So a lot of good romulent stuff in here, pretty goofy. Definitely a good outing for doctor Pulaski fans, wouldn't you say? Yeah? I mean, it was nice to see her featured in the last couple of issues. You know, was she written as doctor Pulaski would actually be written. I'm not so sure, but I think it was okay, because you know, the story is really all about the fun and ridiculousness of things that happened on the Serritos. So yeah, I absolutely love seeing her. She's kind of mysterious. And then that ending with like it was all just to dream. I mean, I was just like testing you. You know, Okay, you.

53:05 Know she's pretty wacky. She is very wacky in terms of she's depicted, right, she is. She's kinda she's kind of out there a little bit. I mean, she says things that Pulaski wouldn't necessarily say. But you know, this is Pulaski of the few. Well actually, so technically speaking, if you remember that by the end of this comic, we are reminded that this is actually Carol's recounting of what happened. So one potential out here is that Carol remembers things, you know, slightly differently from how they actually occurred, and so maybe the Pulaski we're seeing is the Pulaski that Carol Freeman sees when she looks at Pulaski, So I contend this is not the real Catherine Pulaski. Still like, generally I enjoyed this issue.

53:56 Oh yeah, look at that he's got both Mariner and Freeman. Generally I like this one. You know, the the ending scene where they're on Mount Pulaski is pretty cool. Yeah. Overall, I don't know. I can't give it too much more than like a six or a six and a half. Maybe I'll give it a six and a half. Despite the fact that I loved that Pulaski was part of this, it just kind of felt a little bit flat at the end. But I'm really excited to talk about the next one. But anyway, that's enough about this one for me. Somebody else, go. You want to jump in? Sure? No, that was you missed the part about when they when they knock her out, when they stun her with a phaser, and then they're going to transport her into the brig and she would they would remove her clothings so she would be naked, but pretty much nobody wanted to see that, So that was hope.

55:00 I think we lost the we lost to b Are you still. Frozen? Uh? There must be a Philter that if you said the word naked, you know it. It's like. We went for the v on freeze, Charles, do you wanna do you want to continue? All right? Well, okay, kind of catch on to what b was saying. They had they had they were trying to deal with how to transport her to the brig. Well why did they have trouble transporting her to the brig? Yeah, because she had a transporter inhibitor sony into her uniform so she can make sure nobody could transport her off the ship.

55:54 Would you like the facts, like, yeah, that sounds like something Pulaski might do. Definitely. Some of the things she didn't hear were a little questionable. Yeah, She's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna sit there. I want to convince the crew to kind of work on themselves. And by the way, I think it's kind of funny the fact that when you think it's a transporter problem, and it's like, yeah, and it's a transport problem that Carol Friedman created herself trying to get out of something past Pulaski's uh inhibitor of trying to keep people from slacking off and going out to the going out and had a little too much fun when they should be resting or working. Definitely.

56:54 I love the fact that when they tried tricker into changing uniforms so she doesn't have the inhibit her on her yet she gets to a point where she gets to it, gets to a transporter, and doesn't seem to mind it. Interesting. I'm not sure about the Romulns would kind of fall for this kind of deal. I'm not sure how they end up capturing the crew in the first place. But here with Eric, the story is pretty good. Maybe about seven point five.

57:39 Seven point five, all right, do you want to continue what your thoughts? Yes? Yeah, because Riverside just kicked me off. So what was the last thing you heard me say? Did I get to the part about when she said talking? Oh oh, oh, that's okay, So yeah, that was that was I don't know. That just cracked me up for some reason, and because apparently nobody wanted to see her naked. So but the things that a couple of things she says as and as John Luke Picard always says shit happens, which of course he never did. But that cracked me up, And then I was shoot, I didn't write down who said it?

58:21 But it was just a great little nod to t os. But what in the name of Gary Mitchell did I do? That was great? And then at the very end, a very another something that Jean Luke Picard did say when shoot, I can't even read my own writing. But when when she says, when I think it's Freeman that says not I think today commander as they when he gets beamed out at the last minute. And I forget which episode that was, but those were the things that just stuck out at me, just those those little lines. But I mean, I thought it was funny. I was not expecting because I was just expecting Pulaski to continue to be, you know, just sort of nefarious, and then at the end it's like, surprise, I was just testing you because I'm not well. I like the part where she said I'm used to treating one person at a time, you know, not not watching over a whole ship. So yep. And I mean, let's face it, having a mountain to ski down that looks like your face, I mean that's just great. So I'll go with seven point five.

59:44 All right, seven point David, what about you, buddy? There's a face. But yeah, this episode I uh uh a Book eight. I enjoyed. It was a continuation from the last Pulaski episode seven, Book seven. I think it is what we talked about a while ago last year, I think. But yeah, going back between the two in reading him in chronological order, it's interesting to go through and seeing how the different stories take place and the different what not happened, and then the ambulance show up, and I thought that was kind of fun. And so yeah, there's a lot of different Easter age for sure in this particular episode. Keep calling an episode book, magazine, whatever you want to call it, comics, there you go. I don't know why I had an issue with.

1:00:49 That, but. Yes, so yeah, I really enjoyed it. This particular one was I'm trying to remember if that because I just read it today and I read the other one and I'm trying to remember what all went down, but funny parts and the parts that stuck out. I think you got pretty much covered a lot of the funny parts already, where it's just like the different types of things that were going on with the whole the uniform, and of course I like the iteration with three men, the mom and the daughter at the end there and how Mariner was like super worried about the mom because it looked like she was just like in a drug trant almost, And so I thought that was pretty funny. So but yeah, overall, I'd have to give this one a seven. Wasn't as great as I thought it was gonna be, but I mean it was about there.

1:01:54 So yeah, yeah, seven seven seven seven that is very respectable. So I enjoyed the story too. I think it would have been really funny if Plastic had made a reference to it at all. But hard to write that. The one thing I noticed about this issue is it didn't I don't know, I didn't have the little things written on the page. That's because that's because a while ago Ryan North uh No longer was the writer, and so since they changed writers. A in my opinion, the quality of the book has gone down overall just a little bit. And b just the format is different. You don't have those anymore.

1:02:41 I mean the little footnotes that had a little Yeah, yeah, those were great. I love Yeah, they were funny as hell, but. You still have bad. Yeah the beginning cool. So yeah, I enjoyed this one. Like I said, it didn't have a little the Little Gloves previous issues. I enjoyed it overall, So yeah, I'm gonna seven right there with David. I think a seven seven is is? Is you? Number eight? I give it a seven so overall, child with all the trucks sports having chimed in.

1:03:24 But I didn't give it a six. It's okay, you know it didn't. Did I laugh hysterically a lot? You know it was. Okay, it didn't. Didn't so mean. But it's in a year maybe we started to be more generous. So I think I'll align myself with a seven. All right, seven from Paul, So Charles, what's the grand total? The overall from Oxperts on lower Decks issue number three. Okay, Paul. Seven brings us to a seven point one, seven point.

1:04:08 Nine. We almost had. Six point nine. We can't be doing the six point now, all right, So there we go. There we are, round up, round up, be generous. Speaking of sequence DSB and needing a bigger boat and jaws. You're good segue. Let me even on the issue number nine, We're gonna I'll give us a quick therewadays. Right there there we are. Friends, that's right, ripping on the famous iconic poster for issue number nine, and of course what kind of sharks are we talking about? Why the shark imagery? Well, Paul will be revealed friends. Okay, so this particular issue opens with a really wacky that turns out to be devan attendee's crazy dream that she's having right where everything is perfect.

1:05:07 She's just everything is wonderful and the food is good, and she's just well liked and everything's going well, and she's even discovered a plant loaded with liquid dilithium, right, and she's on such close terms with the Captain that she's able to affectionately refer to Captain Freeman as care Bean, which I don't know if we've ever heard have we ever heard that on the show or is that new to. The comic, But now that's new to the comic. Yeah, I thought that was pretty you know, Carol Freeman is care Bear. I'm like, that's pretty hilarious. Right, And her lovely rhapsodic dream is interrupted by a private hail from the Federation President that turns into an explosive eruption of Gorman Gander droppings, right, and give the full two page panel. It's one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen, okay, And of course we've seen the Gorman gander before, right, originally on Discovery and then later in Picard.

1:06:01 It's been referred to, right, have a space whale, if you will, and educational side note which I'm gonna cram down every one's throat there. The space whale name Gorman gander may actually have been taken from Norse mythology, friends, where the Yorman gander is also known in the English parlance as the Midguard serpent. Okay, a unfathomably large and monstrous sea serpent that dwells in the world sea and circling Midguard or the Earth, eating its own tail. And God help you if that stops, because if he releases his tale, it's a sign that Ragnarok is nigh, if you will. So I think that's where the name came from.

1:06:47 It. So if you're a myth person, go check out. But that's all these Gorman Ganders do, apparently, is shit in space, right, and for some reason they got to that's their mission. And this particular episode is analyzing uh Gorman gander droppings, right, what kind of for me? Friends, I will say, wore out. It's welcome really fast, right, I mean there are panels and panels and panels and ship in this comage. Now wait a. Second, there are really there, really are Well allow me to report, I do I need to start, like, you know, pointing them out. Yeah, I mean it's all over the place, right, I mean, it's just it's yeah. So to me was just like, but I'm digressing horribly as tend is all freaked out, right, Why is she freaked out having these weird dreams and friends out. She's trying to hide dozens of subspace messages that she's been frantically deleted so no one knows about them. Right, She's not sleeping because she's having all these crazy dreams which are all about lowing money to a Ferengi loan shark, get it, loan shark.

1:07:59 The image now is coming together, right, And so we learn in this rather lengthy flashman right that when Tendy was going to Starfleet Academy aka school the Ferengi would call it, she wanted to go. She's all proud of herself and she doesn't want to think that she be thought of as relying on the coattails of her parents, so she wants to get there on her own without taking help from her parents. So she borrows money from this loopy Ferengi person, and now years later she's in Ferengi collections and she owes them a butt on of latinum, right, and Damon Glam is the Ferengi in question here, And of course glom means to seize or get hold of something, right, so English and that know what your words mean if you can glam on too, right, And so Damon Glom shows up with a bunch of Ferengi starships demanding let Tendy be handed over to them or die, right, And that's basically the cliffhanger that the issue ends on. So I think a lot of your rating acceptance level on this particular issue will be dependent on your fondness for Devon at Dandy on one hand, and your lack of ability to tolerate huge piles of excrement. And you're reading material.

1:09:23 So I'm kind of in the middle on that. I will weigh in later. But where did you stand on this whole thing? Eric? I have to say that I really liked this issue. I find tend to be incredibly delightful overall and just an entire issue dedicated to her is something that I don't mind one bit. You know, I kind of knew at the beginning when weird stuff was happening that it was eventually all going to be a dream. But I didn't mind it somehow, despite the fact that I often complained about it was only just a dream type things. But there were some great jokes in here, great funny moments, the whole thing about like some people getting per diems in star like. I still like they've complicated the whole like finance of Starfleet so much that I love it.

1:10:16 Uh So, yeah, I the poop, So, Paul, here's what I think. If you count the page that has the giant face exploding from the screen, that's pages four and five, So I could, I could give you two pages there, But then it's just page eight, man, And that's it. That's all the poop. There's that's all the poop. There's no more poop. It feels like it's everywhere I count. I count maybe three pages. There's also bars later page. Bar there's another one right there. It's more of it right there. Well, anyway, however, much poop and why are the barfing?

1:11:00 Because they're thinking about poop? That's why they're baring. Right, I mean, it is disgusting, it's. Really it was so funny. And the page where Boimler and Mariners start barfing because Tendy was barfing and just like Boimler is barfing and the barf is like ejecting straight upwards and back behind him and he's flailing as I'm sorry, that is some funny it was. It was. I'm glad that worked for you. I'm not a big vomiting thing. That's right, That's fine, it's true.

1:11:41 I like so yeah, I mean, I don't know that there's too much more for me to like specifically talk about, but I really liked just all of the tending time. There's a little bit of to Lin, which is you know, anytime you throw to Lin in the mix, I'm all about it. Yeah, I can tell you that three you know, decor classes are not like a maze using frangi ships, but they are you know, they're big, They're like really big. So have three of them surrounding the soritos is kind of a big deal. So yeah, we'll have to see what happens next issue. So I get this. Uh, I hate to say it. I just really enjoyed this, and I love I also loved the launch of any new storyline like that automatically kind of boosted a point for me.

1:12:22 I felt like the last one kind of died on the viney a little bit. So I'm just gonna give this one a nine. I'm not afraid. Next this just in Eric would like more poop and all of the further issues of so. I mean, you know, but see, the thing was that just not the inclusion of poop, but the fact that it was tastefully done. I just really, you know, it adds to the overall. Yeah, I will gladly, I will gladly to disagree. Yeah, I will please do all. Right, So first off, before I forget the whole you know, vomiting where one person starts, that's what that reminded me of the scene and stand by me with the Barfo rama, you know, with lard Ass, the story that uh that uh George Geordie was telling. Yeah, but no three words alien pooter scoots. That's what they've were calling That's what they were calling it, so alien pooter scoots. I just was laughing, like just like an idiot over that. But also there were a couple of references because I love Tendy and you know, I love to Lynn having met Gabrielle and you know, doing the yeah all that. But did anybody catch when Tendy is reminiscing about going to

1:13:54 Starfleet Academy and she's on the grounds and sort of behind her you see booth be in the garden and I don't know if they have that, And there's also that looks like, uh it looked there was Troy and Riker and uh, I think the trombone, yes, and they and they also when they're talking about the FARRANGI mentioned the energy whips that harken back to the you know, dreadful episode of TNG with when we first see the FRANGI with those witch Yeah. So this one, I don't know, I just it just cracked me up. It was just hilarious and the whole confusing, the whole money thing, like do we need it, don't we need it? Oh we get a per diem, don't you? Uh just I don't know.

1:14:49 It was just the whole thing was delightful and hilarious. And yes, Paul juvenile with the barf and the pooh, but it's like alien Pewter scoots. Okay on, So for that, I give it. I give it a nine point five. All right, from the child, what do you think about? Okay, well, I'm got one for thee that I'm surprised she didn't bring up personally. You kind of knew what he was going towards a dream when you got doctor Moopsie. Yep, Doctor Moopsie's sitting there wandering a ram and it's like, okay, that's but coming up. We sit there and say, okay, we can't sleep. I don't want to sleep. Okay, well what should we do? Oh okay, let's go see nigglay Nou.

1:15:58 It's like, okay, it's like you kind of realize that, yeah, that's the last person you want to go see as a ship's counselor for this one. And she's sitting there next to him. It's like, I think I need more coffee. It's like, oh, I didn't realize you're gone through the first seven, the first seven containers of coffee. She's got this coffee container you can make me put your head in, and yes, you can get burns from putting your head in a cup of coffee. Okay, I think that's a good reason not to have that big a cup of coffee.

1:16:45 So why of course love the fact that the doctor it's like, oh, yes, I'll sit there and put her, I'll sit there and take care of her, put her asleep. It's like, yeah, that sounds exactly like our doctor right there. Did you see in pictures? She's ready to sit there and put Tendy to sleep. But we get definitely an interesting history, Definitely an interesting little backstory, a little bit Tendy's backstory. Definitely an interesting idea of what's going on. And I think. The conversation with the money was interesting that we kind of deal with U, No, they're not making income. They're not they're not getting a group, they're not getting especially they're not getting a bonus for joining Starfleet, which the FERENGI think they're getting, and that these these these Starfleet officers are rich. It's like, no, they're not. So definitely, when we're done with the episode, I got to go back and read, go go through and read reading nine.

1:18:02 It's like, Nope, I'm not going to read nine. I'm not going to get ahead of myself to seeing what happens. But I definitely be ready for the show and for this eight point five, and I definitely like the Tindy side of it because I'm definitely a big Tindy fan. Uh right, well then what do you think? Yeah, I liked this. I have a shorty issue. This. I agree with the Charles. I am kind of a Tindy fan as well. I like her energy, I like her attitude. I like her overall almost oblivious sense of like what's going on around her almost but what's out and everything plans out and whatnot. So yeah, as far as this whole poop situation, oh, I have to bring it up. I'm not really too much into the whole throw OpEd up either, but if they can make it funny, it's funny. You know, it gets me and it can make me laugh. And I've actually laughed out loud reading this issue.

1:19:16 And so. But there's a couple others things too about the whole some of the lines that they have in here. May and the first officer I forgot his name. Now what was the first officer's name? Ransom? Yeah, So what made me read this line over and over and over again for some reason? When they were saying something like we don't want to force you to force us to use force or something like that, and I'm like, so that and the just oh man, it was funny, but it was confusion in a funny way. But to me, I don't know, this episode. I enjoyed it, probably way more than the other there that episode. But yeah, this, as you guys know, Lower Decks is my favorite TV series of the Star Trek stuff. So the comics, they really reflect what the TV series had brought, and I have to give them kudos for that because they really did their homework in a sense. So to me, it's like watching what Lower Decks could have continued if they didn't cancel.

1:20:38 So to me, this one in particular, I really enjoyed, and the story continued on to what issue ten I believe, So this one, I'm gonna have to give this one. I'm probably gonna go up there with Charles and doing an eight point five. Eight point five well, as you guys know, starts five. The Final Frontier is my favorite movie. I had thee I Can't Break my Streets, so uh they even started, I had to jump in there. But yeah, anything right, you know, I the Scooter poots. You know, this was a fun, fun issue. I enjoyed reading it. I loved Tendy anyways, the whole So here's my thing on the pay I'm thinking back to point Beverly Crusher is on the planet and she buys an entire bolt of fabrica and she says, send it to my ship and charge it to Crush her. So they must have some fight.

1:21:53 I mean, they have to have some type of money or how could she pay for the stuff she just so there's gonna be some type of per diem something there. What it is, I don't know, but to see that, you know, the Feringi wanting the money and the whole thing. It was funny. And by the way, those moment there was one Dacora class and two their ships, and I paid close attention to it because I wanted to see what the other Feringhi ships look like, because the de Kora is pretty much and the Shuttle are the only two Feringi ships that we ever see. But in this issue we see two different Feringi ships. So I thought that was cool that they actually took the time to design a new Feringhi ship along with the one that we always see, So I give them kudos for that.

1:22:51 So yeah, keeping it short and sweet, I'm gonna go with an eight for this issue overall, and we're going to swing back to Paul, who has not given us a score yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And David was just with the visuals. I'm just like, oh my god, I never see them going to make sure there's no brown crayons in the entire fucking house. I'm done with the show. I'm yeah. I love Tendy too. Tendy is a great character, is really super fun. So her my affection for her as a character, and my sympathy for anyone carrying a lot of student debt, I think is is winning out right. Yes, yeah, so so you know, well, you know, what do you gonna do?

1:23:40 So I think I'm going to try to, you know, be leaning a little bit more positive and not be as negative. I would give it a higher score except for that one visual component that I just do not care for. So I will be weighing in with a seven on this particular episode I think is appropriate. So we'll just say it's seven for both of these this week. It seems appropriate. All right, appropriately noted. So, Charles, what's our overall truck Spurt score for Lower Decks issue number nine? Well, unless you up for nine went a lot higher and hit to an eight point four.

1:24:20 Scooter boots you're kidding? Wow? All right, excellent. So that wraps up our common our review of Star Trek Lower decks. And you know what, guys, you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Because I know what time it is. It's time for Well, what do you think about David's graphic before I played? What do you guys? Very nice? Very nice? The graphic? Yeah, that's good. Where's the theme? And now comes now? And now the themes? Now all that's happening in three we could just sing it, why is a thing work?

1:25:24 That was not a Clinton song? So for every single one of you patrons out there that's actually watching the video, Dyved put this all together and we changed it from Star Trek Birthday to sci Fi Birthdays because we're talking and beyond, and so I've expanded the birthdays to include more of the more notable sci fi characters that we all know. So, without any further adio, we always start off I remember in those members of our sci fi family, sadly enough, are no longer with us. For that, we turned to air Jim. This week, we honor six of our members of the sci fi community who have gone before us. The first is actor Jeremy Kemp. Jeremy Kemps, of course, the English actor who portrayed Robert Picard in Star Trek The Next Generation's fourth season episode Family. He was born Edmund Jeremy James Walker in Chesterfield, derby Shire, and adopted his mother's maiden name as his stage moniker, which is kind of an interesting thing, makes sense, nice and short. Kemp began his acting career in the nineteen fifties, eventually joining the Royal Shakespeare Company at the Old VIC for two seasons, and I, of course years later because I just finished watching this show, would see him in an episode in nineteen seventy five episode of Space nineteen ninety nine Voyager's Return.

1:26:52 He's in that episode It's Yeah, which was kind of cool. His last role before we lost him was in Kona the Adventure, the television series which ran for one season in nineteen ninety seven through nineteen ninety eight. It featured Jimmy Skaggs. So lost back in twenty nineteen at the age of eighty four years old. We honor Jeremy Kemp this week. Happy Birthdays well to Alfred Ryder born Alfred Jacob Korn, the actor who portrayed Robert Krater in the original series first season episode The Man Trap. Alfred Rider made well over one hundred television guest appearances, including all the ones that you've heard us talk about a lot from the sixties, you know, Man from Uncle, Mission, Impossible, Barnaby Jones, Untouchables, all those sorts of shows. He co starred with fellow TOS guest performers in the nineteen sixty nine western True Grit. He was also nineteen seventy five's Escape to Which Mountain and a cult movie that I've never seen but apparently stars Dean Stockwell called Tracks. Ah, never heard of it anyway. Alfred Writer great contributions to science fiction and beyond lost him back in nineteen ninety five at the age of seventy nine years old. Happy birthday to mister Ryder. Stepping outside of the Star Trek Lexicon, we honor this week somebody who is unfortunately recently deceased.

1:28:18 Just this last April, we lost the great actor Val Kilmer Bell of course, as an American actor, initially a stage actor, later found his fame as a leading man in films in a wide variety of genres, including comedies, dramas, action adventures, westerns, historical films, crime dramas, science fiction films, and fantasy films. He rose to prominence for playing Iceman in Top Gun, probably the first place I ever remember seeing him. He was also Mad Martigan in Willow. He played Jim Morrison in The Doors Doc, Holliday and Tombstone. And yes, he did play Batman slash Bruce Wayne in Batman Forever, the very colorful offering into the Batman franchise with the magical codpiece. Anyway you no, I'm I don't I need to. It's the it's the only bats that has nipples.

1:29:23 Well, well, I was going to say, as Iceman Iceman in Top Gun. He was in and you see his picture there with the hottest volleyball scene, the sports scene in any movie ever. So thank you very much, and. A happy birthday to unfortunately just lost. Like as we said in this last April happy birthday as well. Moving forward to the great Aaron Scott Eisenberg, the actor who is best known for portraying the Faranki nog on Deep Space nine. This feels also like this just happened yesterday.

1:30:10 Although we lost him back in twenty nineteen, he reprised his role as Noog in the Star Trek Online, a game for many, many seasons. He also played the Kaison car on Voyagers episode Initiations Way back in the day. He underwent, of course, a kidney transplant, had some other health issues when he was a teenager, which gave him a shorter stature, which made him perfect for playing the Ferengi. Actually, and he actually made his first acting appearance in the nineteen eighty nine film Beverly Hills Brats, in which will Be Goldberg made a cameo appearance in Star Trek stunt coordinator Dennis Dennis Madalone played a store clerk. Aaron did a handful of movies throughout the nineties, including a movie with Will Wheaton called The Liars Club. He also performed in several stage plays along the way, and unfortunately we lost him twenty first of September twenty nineteen to heart failure, lost way too early at only fifty years old. Happy birthday and lots of love and remembrances going out to Aaron Eisenberg. Happy birthday to Victor Vic Tayback. The actor who portrayed Jojo Craco in the original series second season episode A Piece of the Action. This guy was all over the place back in television in the day to In nineteen sixty six, he made an uncredited appearance in

1:31:43 the film Dead Heat. He was also in Merry Garround. He also later on in the eighties was on TJ. Hooker made a lot of made for television movies. In nineteen eighty nine, he actually co starred with future Star Trek Voyager actor Robert Ricardo the comedy Lover Boy as well. So go check out Vic Taybach's multitude of things that he starred in, But I think Piece of the Action is definitely the one that I remember him for. That and Alice, of course watched many many episodes of Alice's as a child, So happy Birthday to Vic Taybach. And last but not least on the remembrance list, this week we have one of many queens of Star Trek, but this is the one that I think about a lot.

1:32:29 And Michelle Nichols unfortunately lost only back in twenty twenty two at the age of eighty nine years old. She of course, is the American actress from Robin's Illinois, who was made famous for portraying Nyota Uhura in the original series, the animated series the first Six Star Trek Films. Later, you know footage of her appearing in some of the other shows that we used footage from previous episodes. She also provided the voices for a number of other characters on the animated series. Not everybody knows that Michelle Nichols was actually originally discovered by jazz legend Duke Ellington in her mid teens, touring with both Duke Ellington and Lionel Hampton as a lead singer and dancer. Broke into acting in the film Porgy and Best in nineteen fifty nine and had an acting career lasting over forty five years.

1:33:20 Another really cool trivia thing that I love about Michelle Nichols is that she actually lobbied to appear as Guynan's daughter in the Next Generation. Richard Arnold added to that by suggesting at the Los Angeles Creation Convention in nineteen ninety that she might appear as Guynan's mother or daughter. However, unfortunately that never manifested. I just think that would have been really cool, though, to have this Guyanan Michelle Nichols' connection. She was the first African American actress to place her hand prints in front of Hollywood's Grumm and Chinese Theater along with the rest of the Star Trek cast, and in nineteen ninety two, she got her own star. In two thousand and six, she returned to her role of Uhua in the fan film Star Trek of Gods and Men, which I always like to say, if you haven't seen it, shed go check it out. Super awesome fan film. And after meeting Nichols at a Star Trek convention in nineteen seventy five, scientist doctor Jesco von Puttkamer suggested that the actress take part in NASA's recruiting drive. She took up the role in nineteen seventy seven, making recruitment and training videos and supervising astronaut recruits and hopefuls. She noted that within six months, the applicant count went from fewer than one hundred a year to over sixteen hundred. Most of the recruits that she attracted were women or from ethnic minorities.

1:34:44 For her efforts, Nichols was named as NASA's Woman of the Year in nineteen seventy nine. And if you haven't seen the movie Woman in Motion, you should definitely check it out. It's a great story of her contributions to the actual real life space program. So happy birthday to Nachelle Nichols. We love you very much. And that does it for our remembrances this week. So I'm going to pass the flaming birthday candle on t V. All Right, I have a happy birthday going to Wilson Cruz, American actor who portrays doctor Hugh Culber in Star Trek Discovery. Next, let's send a happy birthday to Michelle Hurd. She's an American actress who plays Rafaela Raffie musicer in Star Trek.

1:35:34 Picard actually met her back in September. Very nice lady. You might have seen her in the early episodes of Law and Order. I think she was in SBU. But very nice lady. And next, because we were just talking about the wonderful character that she voices, but a happy birthday to Noel Wells. She's an American actress, comedian, director, and musician who voices Divana Tendy on Lower Decks. So happy birthday to Noel. Next, happy birthday to Conchetta Tomey.

1:36:19 She's the American actress who played Odala in Voyager third season episode Distant Origin. That was a very cool episode. They were sort of like human versions of hadrosaurs and the whole thing. I love it, Yeah, wasn't it. I mean, it was such a cool idea to have, like the return of Dinasose. And I will tell you that there's a little bit of a tie into some Doctor Who stuff from that episode. Really Okay, okay, yeah. If you ever want to watch it, I can recommend that the idea of like these dinosaur things coming. Back, Yeah, that was really neat. And so because they were going what was it going against doctrine? That was the whole thing. And then she but she was best known for her role as major Lyla Garow on the ABC TV series China Beach, who had another which had another star trek actor, and of course that was Robert Picardo was in that next, Happy Birthday to Carl Tart, writer and comedian who voiced Lieutenant Kashan in the second, third, and fourth seasons of Lower Decks. Then lastly, Happy Birthday to Hallie Todd. She is the actress who gave that Oh my gosh, heartrending portrayal of Lall in the TNG

1:37:51 third season episode The Offspring, and a little bit of trivia about her. Her mother is Anne Morgan gil Bert, who got her start as Millie Helper, the neighbor on The Dick Van Dyke Show. And in the first season Anne was really pregnant. They wrote her pregnancy into the show and she was pregnant with Hallie, and then later on Anne plays that. You might remember her later on on The Nanny where she plays Yeta, So there's that little connection. So happy birthday to Hollie. Thanks for making me cry every time I watch The Offspring. Now I'm going to pass the flaming birthday candle onto Paul.

1:38:43 Thank you so much for me appreciate it. Well, I must have done something right this week, because I'll tell you what. My list is just full of heavy hitters. I mean really, just top time flight folks. First of all, let's start out here with actress Jane Badler Okay, American and also Australian actress, best known for her role as the evil like hamster devouring Reptilian visitor leader Milania Trump. Oh, I mean, I mean, I mean evil Reptilian Visitor Leader Diana excuse me as very similar consence in the NBC miniseries V, which I thought was an ABC miniseries. But what do I yeah, I mean, never forget that hinding of the job Amster, Duribile, whatever it was. I think it was Amster, and you know, just the idea that we've got, you know, evil lizard people as part of our conspiracy culture. And thanks to Jane Badler's performance, they which casts a long shadow. Jeans V is really one of those culty ones that just will not go away.

1:39:48 So but she scared a lot of folks back in the day. So great to celebrate you, Jane Butler. Happy birthday to Dina Meyer, actress who play Mad of course Commander Dnatra in Star Trek Nemesis. She's certainly cast a big, swathing shadow across science fiction, and I remember her very fondly from her role as Disney Flores in the Pulver Oven Starship Troopers, where she was really cool and kicked all kinds of ass. So Dina Meyer is a very cool, awesome individual. There done a lot of science fiction. I'm just so happy to be able to wish happy birthday did this individual I still can't believe I got the chance to talk to him on this podcast, because there are very few legends that I really look up to, and this is one. And there's the great Nicholas Meyer, writer, director of so many great things. Right. But of course we bring him to our engineer because he wrote and directed Star Trek two, The Wrath of Khan, all right, and also Star Trek sixty and discovered Country, the screenplay for Star Trek four, The Voyage Home, and also the screenland Star Trek six. He was consulting producer for the first season of Star Trek Discovery. He wrote the original idea for the Star Trek Cohn drama that we just really did.

1:41:12 The recently did the series of reviews of the radio podcast, but it was originally designed to be like a three episode mini series back in the day, and they expanded it. But I will never be able to think of Nicholas Meyer but not think of the wonderful film time after time they he did with Malcolm McDowell, Mary Stein Virgin and David Warner. Amazing, so great. Nicholas Meyer just understands science fiction like nobody else. He's a literary guy. He's well steeped in the mythos of Sherlock Holmes. He just knows his literature backwards and forwards. He's a phenomenal writer. Anything with his name on it is worth seeking out and embracing. So happy birthday to you, brother. It is great to know that you're out there still ticking, so love your work.

1:42:01 Happy birthday to be actress aka bb Newarth, the phenomenal actress who played the role of Linnelle in that hilarious, unintentionally sometimes fourth season episode First Contact, of Course, but indelibly thought of as Fraser Crane's wife and later ex wife Lillis on the hit television series Cheers, but phenomenal stage actress. I don't think she gets enough credit on there, but done a lot of great work on the boards as well, and tremendous theater persona, so really great. Bob Newrth is just amazing performer, real strong stuff. So anything with her name on I go watch. Feel particularly honored to be able to say Happy birthday to American legend Jane Fonda, actress activists. Her work spans genres over six decades or more of American film. She's won so many accolades.

1:42:59 We could do a whole show on her, including two Academy Awards to British Baptists, seven Golden Gold Awards, a Primetime Emmy Award. Of course, everyone became attracted to her presence of the great sci fi classic Barberrella, kind of a cult you know, sensation there, but became an actress you would never ever dispute in her talent. First picture I ever saw and was clute, really amazing crime Saga with Donald Sutherland, really fantastic. Again, she was in Like Coming Home, which is just amazing. She's just done so many great, great pictures over the years and never stopped advocating and fighting for social justice and people's rights and being an outspoken opponent to war in any form. So a real role model as far as I'm concerned. And I don't want to forget to mention The China Syndrome as well, which is a film enough people have seen of hers with her and Michael Douglas and Jack Lemon, but if you've never seen The China Syndrome between it's phenomenal.

1:44:08 But what a pleasure to be able to wish her happy birthday. And then this guy who I'm just a huge fan of Who I Do. You just never get enough of any movie this guy and is the phenomenal Clancy Brown. Okay, Fancy Brown. He's so great, he's so fantastic. He initially well, let's talk Star Trek first of all, he played Zorb Braw in enterprise first season episode Desert Crossing. He was on the series called Earth two in the mid nineties playing at John Danziger. There but good gravy. He's so many good things, right, and so many good things. Oftentimes he would play a bad guy right where he I think one of the movies where he really first came that everyone's in the attention was in the first Flander picture was Christopher Lambertt, right where he was the villainous nemesis the code. You know, excuse when his right.

1:45:00 He's just phenomenal, but he's all the time playing bad guys. Right. Was all We talked about Starship Troopers a little while ago with Dean Meyers. He was Sergeant Zim hilariously in Starship Troopers. Right, really really amazing. You will find this guy all over the Stephen King catalog. Right, amazing performer. He's done tons of things. He was in Shawshank Redemption. He was in Thor Ragnarok. He did the voice work in that movie there as well. He's just done so many good things. I mean, he's in everything and does a lot of voice work as well. Gamers are familiar with his voice work. But he was also very excitingly he was in oh what was it where he was Star Wars Rebels, Yeah, where he played the Star Wars Rebels.

1:45:52 He played a character there and then later on got to come back and play that character in live action. Well, so really cool. But he's just such a great performer and whether it's a bad guy or a good guy. Check him out in Blue Steel with Jamie Lee Curtis, really great cop picture set in New York. If you've never seen that, Clancy Brown is just the man. He's just really, really, really cool and never fails to deliver the goods. Salute your brother, you are awesome. And then, finally for me, as somebody who's just had phenomenal providence of the last couple of years, the absolutely luminous Genevieve O'Reilly, Irish actress who played mon Mathma and first of all, in Star Wars episode three, Revenge of the Sith, returned to play the role again in Rogue one, a Star Wars story did a bunch of animated versions of the character and rebels. And then it's only in this last couple of years and she's really come into like a claim where people are really seeing what a titan he is.

1:46:56 Where she played the same character mon Mathma, but on a Soka and in particular the ahska, what am I saying? God, I'm just like starstruck here where she's in and Or is what I'm trying to say. Right where she plays man Matha on the great series, which just does not I mean, it's won every award there is, but it just can't be spoken of highly enough, especially in the times we are living in. And Season two of and Or really makes it clear about what the rise of fascism looks like, in large part to Genevieve O'Reilly's character there and the speech she makes towards the Senate warning what's coming if we don't change our path. I mean, it could be right out of today's headlines. It's amazing.

1:47:41 So you haven't seen and Or, If for some reason you heard it was boring, you need to go check your head and especially watch season two it is phenomenal television of the highest freaking order. It is just absolutely legendary, amazing storytelling. So Genevieve, O'Reilly, slute you and thanks for being an outspoken voice for freedom in these perilous times. Passing it over, Uncle Jim. I thank you so much. Paul. You know I usually do the Klingons, but I've got two special special ladies on my list and two of my favorite movies, two of my favorite actresses. I want to start off by wishing Jenny Augator a happy birthday.

1:48:28 And Jenny Augator best known for two movies which are two of my all time favorite movies. An American Werewolf in London, where she played Nurse Price she was nominated for a Saturn Award for Best Actress, and Jessica six in Logan's Run. In fact, Logan's Run was the first real sci fi movie that I saw. I saw obviously before Star Wars at the drive in theater with my parents. Loved Logan's Run, Love American Werewolf in London, And I wish her a happy birthday. I just I just crushed on her as a kid. She was just all of that.

1:49:10 Happy Happy birthday, Jenny Augater Jessica sid And the next on my list is another one that come on. If you were a kid growing up in the seventies and you didn't crush on Aaron Gray from Buck Rogers, I don't know what was wrong with you, because running around in that tight white satin suit with it with the helmet on and buying her stuff fight along with Buck Rogers and Tweaky, I just absolutely incredible. I met her at a convention. She was she was great, and I just love Aaron Gray. So Happy birthday to Aaron Gray as Colonel Wilma Deering and Buck Rodgers only season one, though season two they turned her into a stewardess and she didn't get to fly to Fighter around and skip season two season one absolutely awesome. And last on my list, we are going to delve into Klingon territory. We want to say happy or not happy birthday. Want to say ala to Brett Porter. And of course he played General Stix in Star Trek six, The Undiscovered Country, The One Armed Klingon. He's the guy that gets his arm blown off on the transporter. He's in front of the transporter pad gets his arm blown off in there. We can see him in the picture with one arm. Is a klingon with one arm? Is that an honorable thing? Or would they off him because he's weak and can't defend himself.

1:50:35 I don't know, but. Normally off him. And that's actually I believe discussed just a little bit in the movie. He has a line where he says something about that. Yeah, I think he would have been off. But at any rate, great character, great movie. Happy birthday to Brett Porter, and that, my friends, believe it or not, wraps up our Star Trek birthdays. And now it's time to move onto our Star Trek news. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secure. Channel incoming transmission. Enter authorization code, command codes verified. Define parameters of program.

1:51:17 Level nine, authorization required. Specify parameters. Transfer updata is complete. A blank alert, A blank alert. All right, Eric, you've got our first news story this week, and it's not a Shatner says, what this is? This one is so funny because this news story literally came out the day after a friend of mine was like, do you think we're ever going to see bones on strange New Worlds? And I was like, I don't think so, man. We still got like you know, we got to go through the other doctor and all that kind of I don't think we're well. Turns out it was completely wrong because Star Trek's Strange New Worlds casts Sulu and Bones for the series finale. Heikuro Sulu and Leonard Bones McCoy, to, iconic characters from the original Star Trek series, will make their first appearances in Star Trek's Strange New Worlds during the finale of the fifth and final season. Thomas Jane will play Bones and Kai Murakami will play Sulu in the episode, which recently wrapped production. Jane's credits and film include Boogie Knight's Deep Blue cy The Punisher, and The Mist.

1:52:23 His TV work has included HBO's Hung Sci Fi and later Amazon Primes videos The Expanse and Amazon's Tropo, which he also executively produced. Markami is making his TV debut and Strange New Worlds. Previously, he's acted on stage with the Royal Shakespeare Company and worked in performance capture on the video game Assassin's Kreed Creed and Rise of the Ronan. I don't get the Leonard McCoy thing because we still have Phil Boyce, who is actually the first Doctor that we see, and so we either got a skip forward or we've got a bones. It's not actually on the ship, that's my guess. Anyway, we got bones in a Sulu.

1:53:05 Carry on? Am I wrong about the phil boys thing like? We shouldn't be seeing bones yet? Right? Well, we don't know. We're initially jumping right into Kirk in command at the end, right, I mean, they could be all going off their separate ways for a year or two and we just continue on with the you know, uh, you know, we don't know. So it's it's we don't know what they're gonna do. I'm sure they'll address it. Uh didn't they address in Discovery that the cage had already passed? The cage has already occurred in in it, So that's he's long past gone.

1:53:50 Because I don't know about that now, all right, Paul, you've got our next story, all. Right, man, real quick breaking news. I don't know, folks follow Rotten Tomatoes, the wonderful agget site on there. It's very popular, but just breaking right now. Starfleet Academy is currently holding steady at eighty one percent fresh good news for next week. Eighty one percent is a high rating, so We'll see what happens once all the right workers get on there and start review bombing things. Right, they don't lack people with colors on their face, so we'll see what happens with that. But still I want to point out that before we get the you know, the peanut gallery weighing in, it is a fresh eighty one percent, which is worth Yeah, okay, I.

1:54:50 Did freeze for a minute, but okay, I think we can hear you. Okay, good. Something went on there. I don't know what that was. Riverside didn't pay their bill Nicell Toy Company. It's a slight delay on Wave one of those Star Trek Action figures after unexpected manufacturing and transit quality problems. NA Cell Company was happily telling American collectors that their long awaited first wave of Star Trek Action figures we're on track to arrive in the US for distribution before the holidays. But now they're sharing some disappointing news for those eagerly awaiting and delivery. The Cell President CEO, Brian Volkwei said in a video, Unfortunately, we started shipping Star Trek Wave one figures on Wednesday, and even though we did our inspections and we looked at about ten percent of the entire shipment and everything looked great. It turns out, and we're still trying to find out why. We've been told by the shipping company that one of the containers got too hot and that made some of the plastic expand oh dear, we definitely have some sort of quality control issue, and I would rather be late and send you bad news and have a QC issue. We're going to stop shipping as of today, fix a QC issue, which we believe will take it the most thirty days.

1:55:56 Hopefully we'll take fourteen days and then resume shipping. This isn't the news you wanted to hear. It's certainly not the news I wanted to give you, but it's the truth. And if there's anything I've learned from collecting toys and buying products myself. You want the company giving you your money, You're giving your money to be honest, So I'm being honest with you. This is Brian Bulkwise talking right. I've never had to make a video like this before, so I want to look you all in the eyes, apologize and say I'm sorry this has happened, and we are fixing it, so there will be a delay, and for anybody who's received figures, we will obviously replace what you were sent and put in some bodies as well. Again, my apologies, but I just wanted to look you in the eye and tell you there's a problem and we are fixing that problem. While certainly disappointing news for those who are hoping to have the Wave one figures rout and ready under the Christmas trees, it is rather for a company to be so open about a bory, challenging issue like this. So this sense continues. Yeah, so he's doing the right thing right, and he's being transparent about it.

1:56:58 And because you do, reception of that first wave will color every wave that is to follow. And I would really like to see these figures, you know, help relaunch Star Trek collecting enthusiasm again, because he's defining these waves by deep, deep cuts and if we really want to fill some long open gaps in our collections, we need to support this uh line and see it succeed. Would love to get him on the show. I wonder what kind of good is he talking about? Plastic expanded? Do you have just like like it looks like the incredible hulk or something to disclose wells.

1:57:42 You know a lot of depending on what you use. Me plastic will like if you have like action figures and like the joints are tough, right. Everyone always heard about that, like companies like Nika and whatnot, that he's really hard plastic and you got to heat it up right and soften it with either you know, putting in boiling water air dryer before you can manipulate them, or they'll break sometimes. And if you're going to be like exchanging hands or you know multiple like figures of different heads and stuff, you got to heat it up a little bit to make them the plastic more ap pliable. So it sounds like maybe these shipping containers were exposed to like a really unusual prolonged period of heat or something like that might be, and it just made the whole thing. Could could has. It has a really big just to get science, he has a really big coefficient, a thermal expansion, so they like it expands way more with temperature changes than even metal.

1:58:33 Does you know they could? They could? So I want to see pictures. I want to see pictures. Of what it looks like. I think they could re label them and sell them as you know star Trek characters that have been in the transporter accident. You know, we all have to do some internet slew thing perhaps this week and see what's out there. But clearly somebody got something weren't so happy with, right, and so it's interesting, tough business, tough economy, but we'll see. I certainly wish him the best, and I really hope this line takes off and succeeds. So we still see to be continued as they say. Well speaking of to be continued.

1:59:13 Uh. That wraps up another awesome podcast of Trek Talking and beyond hard to believe, but it is over, but we will be back next week, same bad time, same back channel with an awesome guest. Margaret whider Camp is going to be with us and I'm looking forward to talking to her. And I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, and I want to say thank you to V for hanging out with us, and I thank you. V. Great to be here as always, I kind of missed you all for you know, being off for two weeks. It's like I didn't have anybody to joke with or you know, say wildly inappropriate things and all that. So who else you didn't see your sparkle pace pads.

2:00:02 I might have, but that's I'm not telling. And also we want to say thank you to Paul the Toy guy for hanging out Shrek talking with us tonight. Thank you so much, Paul. A pleasure man. It's great to be back. And if we run out of things to talk about, which I don't think we will start for the Academy coming, but boy, I'd sure love to sit down and hear everybody's take on the final episode of Stranger Things at some point. I think that would be really fun, so it definitely is worth worth addressing at some point. Is there any truth to the Secret ninth episode? Or is that just internet garbage? It is as true as a Republican talking about Yeah, that answers my question right, Absolutely, absolutely nonsense, it's qing on bullshit.

2:00:50 There is nothing at all. Yeah, there is no there, There there is. All, right, And thank you so much to Eric as well for hanging out and Shrek talking with us tonight. Thank you, Eric, absolutely, And I agree with the nobody nerds harder than you guys, and I needed it tonight. We had two weeks off then we came back for a week and we were off for two more weeks. But now we have a nice long stretch so it'll be fun. And of course thank you to Charles for hanging out with us as well. Thank you so much for joining us. Charles. Oh, I concur with the nerding nerding part of it. I had missed that.

2:01:30 It is It is fun. That's it's true. Yes, And of course our miracle worker David who puts together all these powesome videos and graphics that you guys are seeing on the screen. If you're every single one of our patrons, you're seeing it. If you want to see it, you can become a patron. And you know how great David is. So thank you so much, David. Yeah, it's been a pleasure and it's really fun sing You guys are getting well off the high. Its yep, it's over. We're back if you work back, and I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim saying everybody please stay safe and be good to each other. Bailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, good night, good night.

2:02:14 Prosper all stations. I'm ready for departure, sir. Some problem right, just like this isn't the usual way of mission will go s oh no, not a wall. I'm sure most will be much more interesting.