Nov. 7, 2025

Episode 661 - Khan audio drama episode 6 "The Good of All" review

Episode 661 - Khan audio drama episode 6 "The Good of All" review
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In this episode, Uncle Jim and the Trek experts discuss various topics related to Star Trek, including fan shout-outs from around the world, the latest Star Trek audio drama Khan, and polls regarding new series concepts. They also engage in a fun movie trivia game, testing each other's knowledge of iconic sci-fi films and their taglines. The conversation highlights the excitement and passion of the Star Trek community, as well as the ongoing discussions about the future of the franchise. The conversation delves into nostalgic discussions about 80s movies, exploring their impact on pop culture and personal experiences. The group engages in trivia about classic films, highlighting memorable moments and sound effects. They also discuss the influence of directors like James Cameron and the significance of audio dramas in storytelling. The episode wraps up with a celebration of notable birthdays in the sci-fi community, including John Candy.
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Jam Well, good evening, Trekkies and trek Is around the globe.

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But it's daysday. November sixth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to

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episode six hundred and sixty one of trek Talk and

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Then Beyond. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, with

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you for another awesome podcast. But before we go too far,

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I'd like to go around the room and introduce my

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awesome treks birts. We'll start off with our very own David.

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David's out in Portland. How you doing, David, Welcome to

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the show.

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I hope you guys can hear me Okay, just have

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a little found this year. Hopefully everything work. But other

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than that, I'm doing.

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Good, sounding good on my end, sounding good on my end.

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And we also have from Portland our very own toy

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guy himself, Paul. How you doing tonight? Paul?

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Oh, I'm doing well, Uncle Jim, I'm doing good. There's

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a lot of buzz about the new Predator movie that

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is opening this weekend, Predator bad Lands, So I'm super excited.

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I think it may force me to get out to

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a movie theater and the next week because I'm hearing

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a lot of good things, So super excited for that. Yeah,

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and of course to revisit our good pals, the Augments tonight,

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so we'll see what they've been up to.

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Yeah, it's gonna be gonna be a lot of fun.

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And also from Portland, we have a how you doing tonight?

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I'm doing good. I'm kind of liking Paul's description of

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our good friends the Augments. You know, I feel like

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I would like to be friends with the Augments. I

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wouldn't want to be enemies of the Augments, right.

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Yeah, I don't think it turned out too well for

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the Arboreals.

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What Theorian. Yeah, there's a let.

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Time then, So not not from Portland, but from Virginia.

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We have our very own v with us that I have.

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I am.

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My favorite color is blue, and boy do we have

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a lot of blue here in Virginia now.

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Just New York mets blue my favorite color.

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Yeah, we'll go with that.

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Sure it could be Dodgers blue.

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Yeah, it could be Data Data singing blue skies come

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in my.

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Way, blue sky that I was writing, actually so Gias.

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I think sanging off the car.

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Too, right, I think so yeah, I think.

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Saying it on the card. So yeah, blue blue is

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a very popular color these days and last but not least,

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and also not in Portland. We have a very own Charles.

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Charles is out in Las Vegas. How you doing, Charleston.

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Our weather is starting to cool down, so things are

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looking good. And I want to throw in a little

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extra comment and say, hey, Nick, welcome to Patreon.

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Ga yep, yep. And I sent him a link for

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the show, so maybe he's out there right now, so

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hopefully welcome Nick, Welcome. Hey, you guys can go over

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treuk talkin dot com. We appreciate it. As Charles dis

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alluded to, you can also while you're there, finally through

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our Patreon page and become a patron for only two

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dollars like Nick did and help us out. We really

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really appreciate that. So on tonight's podcast, we're going to

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be talking about the Star Trek Con audio drama. We're

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up to episode six, The Good of All, and we're

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going to unpack that tonight, so that's gonna be a

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lot of fun. Let's see what comes out of that.

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We also have our fans shout outs and that's where

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we go around the globe and we thank fans just

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like you for supporting our podcast. So if you saw

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a little heart next to your name from yours truly,

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Uncle Jim, then you want to hang around and hear

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your name, so please don't miss that. We also have

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some Star Trek polls to go over and we're going

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to be doing part two of Taglines with Uncle Jim.

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We had a good time with that last week, we're

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gonna do it again this week. So let's see if

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the truck Sports can bat one hundred again like they

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did before. I'm pretty sure they can. We also have

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our sci Fi Birthdays where you can find out what

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after you share a birthday with, and what's going on

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around the Star Trek universe. We have some interesting Star

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Trek news to talk about, so we got a pretty

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pack show. I don't want to take up any more

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of our precious time than I have to by yak

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and yak and yaking, so we're gonna dive right into

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it with our fans shout outs and once again, you

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guys can be mentioned on the fans shout out by

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visiting our Facebook page at Trek Talking and beyond into

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and prosper Just click on that and tell us where

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you're listening from the I don't leave them ojis, it

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gets my attention, and then look for heart next to

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your name from yours truly, and then you'll be featured

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in a fan shout out. You can also go to

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truck talkin dot com and click on the little green

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talk talk light and leave us a message and we

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will play that message on the next podcast. All right, Eric,

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you want to dive in and get us started with

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our fans shout outs.

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I absolutely do batting not only one hundred, but a

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thousand at the top of the order. Here, we're saying

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hello this week in Milagros. Salazar, who is hailing from Venezuela, Hello, Milagros.

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Thank you for listening to our podcast and for supporting

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us from all the way down on the other side

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of the equator. That's pretty cool that we've got so

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much support for our podcast down there. And Venezuela is

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one of those places that I feel like I just

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absolutely have to make it to one day. You have

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been there, right, Paul, not yet?

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No, I have not Costa Rica. I've been to but

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not Venezuela.

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Venezuela. Yeah, there's so many good places to go anyway, Lagos,

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thank you so much for saying hello to us this week,

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and we say live, long and prosper to you. I

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would also like to say peace and long life to

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rising fans. Sabine Poch, who is hailing from Germany near Berlin.

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Lots of cool little towns around there. Germany is a

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country that we have a lot of support from on

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our podcast here, so Sabine, thank you so much for

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saying hello to us. And we say hello right back

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to you, just like we say hello to Beverly Goalsworthy

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who's hailing from the UK. She says, leads in West Yorkshire.

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I think we know right where that is. There might

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be some some pall people in that area of the globe,

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or some potential history there as I as I remember so,

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Beverly Goalsworthy, perhaps you're related to Paul. We don't know.

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Thank you for saying hello to us this week.

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Sorry about the restraining.

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Order, Beverly, yes, tired.

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It's in perpetuity.

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The international ones are a little yeah exactly.

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And last, but not least, we would like to say

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hello this week to Shane Craig Brooks, who is hailing

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from New Zealand down Under. And then a little bit

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further so, Shane, thank you so much for saying hello

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to us. Charles, surely there are people in my neck

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of the woods that listen to this podcast too.

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Yes, I think there are. We have a warm welcome

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to hoyt Aden from Oregon. I wonder which part of

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Oregon he's in, but he's been around the water. Welcome

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to Chris Shirley from Alabama. But I guess we can't

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call it. We don't want to call him Shirley. Welcome Chris,

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I called that reference. Welcome Susie McGovern from Escando, California.

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Welcome Susie. And Welcome Bill Smith from Boise, Idaho. Welcome Bill.

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Good to see you. The who's on your list? On

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your big.

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List, big list? Yes, I have.

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Saying a big hello to Sarah A Whitouse from Texas,

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And of course Texas is a very big state. So

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wherever you are, we're glad that you listen to us.

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Next Ruth Emery from mifflin Burgh, Pennsylvania. I used to

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live in Eerie so that they called charmingly the mistake

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on the lake. Yeah, anyway, Next we have Bobby Scott

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from Alabama. And last, I don't know if they're Roll

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Tide or whatever. That's all I know is Role Tide

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for Alabama. Last, but certainly not least, a big hello

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from Todd Aaron C from Mississippi. So thank you for

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giving us a shout out. All right, Paul, it's your turn.

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Thank you. We appreciate that. Okay, we got all kinds

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of folks. Hey, sorry friends, sorry Mississippi, sorry Alabama, but

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we got star Trek fans. Globally as well. So all

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over the place, across various oceans, you will find star

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trek Ziasm running wild, like our pal Laty dev in France.

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Now Laty doesn't say where they live in France, but

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it's pretty hard to live there and not be doing well.

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It's this phenomenal part of the globe. I feel France

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calling to me rather strongly these days, and one of

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these days I'm just gonna have to answer. And meanwhile,

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back in my old stomping grounds, let's say I had

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a Jane Falder in Staffordshire, United Kingdom, in Inglam. So

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great to know that you're out there, Jane, keeping things

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tied down, so doing well. And then if you can

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stand a fourteen or fifteen hour flight, you can go

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visit David Robertson in Auckland City in New Zealand, all

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the way down there where the water goes down the

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drain in the opposite direction. Who knew? So they probably

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think that our water goes down the drain in the

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opposite direction. But there you are, amongst the hobbits and

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other like minded folk, an environmental paradise by all accounts.

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Someday I'm going down there I suspect I do. I

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may never leave and then back to con and again,

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because there's no rhyme or reason to the order of

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things here. We just completely like you know, squirrel, just

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leaping back and forth across longitude and lattude lines. We're

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going to go back to Europe, to Berlin, Germany and

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say hello to Simone Pfeiffer in Berlin. Hello, Simone. You

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live in a phenomenal city full of history and thriving arts.

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It is an incredible place. I hope to visit myself someday.

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So wherever you reside on this Globe Star Trek fans,

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you have a seat right here at the Trek talking table,

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and we're about to ring the dinner bell, so welcome

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and thanks for joining us tonight. Let's see who Uncle

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Jim has got on his side of defense.

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Oh, thank you so much, Paul. You know, speaking of

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the water, I remember answering it X files with bugs

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falling out of the sky and Mulder goes over the

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water finally get a drink, and he looks at Scully

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and he says, something's going on here. The water is

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circling the drained backwards, and I'm like, what hell was

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he talking about. I had no idea that that was

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the case, because I've never, you know, watched water go

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down to drain anything other than here. But Fox Mulder

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said it's true. So hey, you know the truth is

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out there. Who are you gonna believe Fox Mulder? Of course?

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So that's pretty cool, all right. So getting back to

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our finish house, guys, I don't like I send a

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hearty hello and thank you about to Andy Schwenzl, who's

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listening to us a new Joyzy. Thank you, Andrew. We

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also want to say hello and thank you to Russell

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Bradenpopper from Fishers, Indiana, and Rudolph low he so Oz.

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The third who's in the red state of Texas, but

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not least James C. Hamilton in Bowling Green, Kentucky. Thank

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you so much guys for being fans, and please go

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Well, there are a couple of different ideas being floated

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which is kind of featuring some of our Legacy characters

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that we see in the poster on the screen there,

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and then another one being called United, which is kind

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of focused around the Formation of the Federation, potentially bringing

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back Captain Jonathan Archer Admiral perhaps Jonathan Archer a la

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Scott Bacula. So our question this week was which new

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Star Trek series would you like to see? Legacy, the

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one with all of your standard kind of TNG characters

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plus Picard, etc. Beyond or United, the Jonathan Archer slash

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Formation of the Federation prequel project, And fifty three percent

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of our responders, just over half said that they would

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like that United project, So I think that's kind of cool.

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I think Legacy had an awful lot of steam behind

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it for a little while, particularly when Picard was going

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on and people were like, I want more Captain seven

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of nine, you know, and other characters like that. But

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this concept of kind of like the formation of the

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Federation and a better ending to the Enterprise arc than

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Season four's terrible finale I think has a lot of

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option here. I bet if we take this pull in

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another year, I bet it's tipped even more towards United.

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I agree too, I'd rather see the United one myself.

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And you know what, Eric, I'm one hundred percent with

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the Minions on this one. As great as Legacy was,

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and as awesome ap as Captain seven and Rafe and

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and that entire crew that they put together was, I

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want to see United. To me, Legacy would just be

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an extension of just another strange new world, their TNNG

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type alien planet of the Week thing, whereas United, I think,

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goes where everybody wanted Enterprise to go but didn't go.

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Let's see, let's see the Federation formed, Let's see them

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come to the table, let's see them build what we

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know is going to be a great, great thing. So

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I am one hundred percent behind United. So I'm right

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there with Dominions.

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How about you, V Yeah, I think so.

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But I was just I was just thinking, as you

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because there's so many out there that people are leaving

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about Starfleet Academy not even having seen it. So I'm

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hoping that United will receive some kinder remarks, although there

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probably will be those who want to hang on, and

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you know, I understand hang on to the familiar characters

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that to have in legacy. But yeah, I think I

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think I'm looking forward to United, and totally not because

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I had a huge crush on Scott Vacula when he

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was on Quantum Leap has nothing to do with that.

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Scott Baculo has been making the rounds and he's been

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dropping hints all over social media, so I think there's

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I think there's something going on there. I really really do.

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How about you, Paul, I'm very curious to hear what

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you think.

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I'd like to show that has the best writing, you know.

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I mean it's just like if they okay, that's really

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because they say they.

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Had comfortable writing, would your concept interest see the most?

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I think I could go either way. It depends. I mean,

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right now, they're just they're just the most premises, right,

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I don't really know that we know what they're going

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to do with them. I tend to lean a little

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bit more towards United, but you know, I need to

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know what that means.

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Right.

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I mean I've heard one person did a thing with

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Bacula I read about that said that they wanted it

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to be more like and or right the Star Wars show,

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which you know, I think a little bit darker, kind

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of more political. They describe it as being more like

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a Manchurian candidate or you know, more like a seventies

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conspiracy thriller. It was one of the things I read,

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and the angle intrigues me. If they go that way,

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it would be great, right, But I need to know

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where they're going, right. I mean, I think both of

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them have great potential, right, they could certainly be great.

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I mean so funny how quickly the worm turns right.

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I mean like a year ago, everyone was so oh Legacy,

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you know, everybody was so happy about that love. You know,

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it's the seven of nine. Everyone was just you know,

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all over themselves, you know, for the new Starfleet captain

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there that people like to make fun of, you know,

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but everyone is just could not wait to get Legacy going.

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And now it's just like, oh, yesterday's tomato is right.

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It's just funny how certain quarters the sandem so quick

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to sure.

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So yeah, Paul can we I would love to just

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like talk about that just for a second, because this

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is a relatively new phenomenon that I am fascinated by,

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wherein the fans appear, at least to themselves, to have

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some sort of influence over future development of things, which

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I think is what people credit to shows like Strange

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New Worlds, right, because people were like, Hey, this Captain

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Pike on Discovery, I love it. You should do a

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show about him and his crew, and they ended up

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doing it, and so I'm I'm curious, like, do you

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think Paramount is listening to the fans? Do you think

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that like there's a good chance that like future I know,

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this is all conjecture, We've got no as Like what's

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the feeling.

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I think that it's possible, right that they're listening. I mean,

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I think these days, more often than not, I think

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that studios are listening to the fans a little bit more, right,

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I really do. Development's really crazy, though, and it's very political.

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It just gets a little bit nuts, right. I Mean,

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I think if you were going to jump in and

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do a Star Trek legacy show, you have to move

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on that really really quickly, right within say a year

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of that last season of Picard, right, but I think

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you know, the ship has sailed. But you know, at

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this point, I don't see it happening. I don't think, frankly,

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either of these will see the light of day. I

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really don't, guys. I'm sorry to sound cynical here, but

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but you know, just this week, I don't know if

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we're going to talk about this later on the show,

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but the brain Trust or their Paramount decided they're going

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to close the or in any future development of any

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JJ you know, Kelvin Timeline movies. Right, We've been they've

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been trying to get a Kelvin Timeline movie going for

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like what three four five years now, and they just

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can't do it. I just don't. I think that they

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are just you know, you know, if I was to

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drive over to Paramount today, right, I'm pretty sure that

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above the logo, you know, like a coat of arms,

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the phrase shitter, get off the pot would be prominently

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you know, encrusted in gold. I just don't think that

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they can. They're so nerve racking about making a bad call,

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and they talk about things, and they get going and

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this and that, and then they just never do it right.

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So and they're probably twice as nervous to wait and

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see what kind of reaction you know, Starfleet Academy gets,

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and then they'll they'll pivot again, right, and oh, well

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we did this and this seems like this is popular,

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so we'll make this instead. But having a premise that

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they have conviction in and that they can and develop

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and say, well, we believe in this, and so we're

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gonna do it. I just don't think that they work

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that way. I think they're very neurotic and they's seat

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of you know, they're a leaf in the wind over there.

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So whatever they think is the new hot thing today,

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you know, six months from now to be totally different.

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So it's just like, you know, everyone turned on what's

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the Captain though from the quote unquote legacy, right, the

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guy there was a new character, the jerk from Chicago

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or whatever. Uncle Jim can tell me the character. Yeah, sure,

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I thought he was going to be the new character. Right,

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the guy was ready. He was very popular on social media, right,

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I thought he was going to be, you know, carrying

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the franchise, be right, you know with him and uh

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and and Jerry Ryan. But no, you know, so it's

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just and even Uncle Jim he's just like you were

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all about Legacy a year or so ago. Now you're

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like one hundred percent everybody one hundred percent for this one, right,

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You're really totally forgotten it and you're willing to move on.

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So it's like the fantastic super Fit man. I mean

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as well, you know, we have a really finicky, nervous

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studio like Paramount. I don't think you're going to see

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any of the stuff happen.

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I don't disagree with you there, but I doubt that

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it has much to do with the finickiness. I think

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it has more to do with the fact that they

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are unable to be nimble and react to things in

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real time anymore, which is perhaps was possible back in

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the day where you know, as season four is being

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filmed of Star Trek the Next Generation, Season five is

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already being written, and then they can just follow it

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up right on the cotails there. We don't do that anymore.

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It's like you're saying, we play a season, we see

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how good the season is, we allow the numbers to

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come in, we wait a year while we write the

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next season, then we start filming the new season. Then

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the new season comes out. So there's no there's no

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such thing as like momentum anymore. Legacy.

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The good news is is I think that we saw

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there was momentum, which is, you know, from Discovery to

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Strange New Worlds, right, because Strange New World's got such

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a hot reaction. I mean when we had Pike on Discovery, right,

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the people went nuts for that. They wanted that immediately,

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and you know, Paramount couldn't produce it fast enough. They

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they I think it was a good move, as we're seeing, right,

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But I don't think that they seem to operate with

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that much zeal anymore.

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Do you.

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Weally agree, Yeah, they don't have the ability to do

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that anymore.

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I think you're gonna I think you have a better

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chance at seeing United simply because Scott Bacula is under

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contract with them, and so he's one of the most

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popular actors. And you got to look at it from

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their point of view. Honestly, they don't care about you

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and me. They want people to subscribe to their streaming service.

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So they're after people that know Scott Bacula from NCIS

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or whatever and you know, or Quantum Leap, because they

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know we're all going to watch it because how are

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we going to bitch about how bad it is if

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we don't watch it, So they know we're all going

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to tune in and watch it whether we like it

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or not. It's other people that they're after, and Legacy

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I think is too specific to Star Trek fans that

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it wouldn't attract the non fan of that fan that's

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on the fence, Whereas Scott Bakula and this series being

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put out there the way it's being put out there

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as might attract people that otherwise wouldn't watch Star Trek.

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And I think that's what they're after. And I think

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that's why we have a bit of chance at seeing

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United than we have that seeing Legacy. And again I

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don't work for Paramount. If they're listening calling, I'd love

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to talk to you, but I have no control or

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no say with what they do at all. That's just

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my opinion. Speaking of opinions, David, what do you think?

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Yeah, I totally agree with you there, Jim about the

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idea that there really are just following the money and

471
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without my need, none of this is possible. So technically

472
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.880
the idea that you know, they might not care about

473
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.759
the fans, but they might because the fans are the

474
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:12.559
ones that give them the money. So if they start

475
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.440
going away from something totally different, then you know a

476
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.359
fans are gonna move away, so to me, to me,

477
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:24.279
I think Legacy and United are gonna be both great.

478
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:26.720
I can't wait to see both of them, and I

479
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.640
think that we will probably see both of them.

480
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:31.759
But I also agree with Paul.

481
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.240
You know, it depends on the stories and everything, so

482
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.839
how they read it, write it out and whatnot. So

483
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.680
to me, I mean, if you look closely at these

484
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:44.119
two uh posters here, one of them have names, they

485
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:48.880
already have people lined up to play their posts, whereas

486
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.599
United it's.

487
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.240
Just now news that came out.

488
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.200
And so to me, I'm thinking we're probably gonna We're

489
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.319
probably gonna end up seeing Legacy first way before we

490
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.920
see United. United probably won't come in for about another

491
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.480
couple of years, would be my opinion, because who knows,

492
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.480
they might have already started recording Legacy or like you know,

493
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:13.559
come in prescription getting it okay by the top people

494
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:14.119
in the branch.

495
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.480
So to me, I'm thinking, why not both? But I'm

496
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:18.240
excited for both.

497
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.640
But I'm gonna have to agree with everybody here, like

498
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:25.240
especially Eric and Uncle Jim. I'm actually more excited to

499
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:30.200
see United, more so just because I do agree with

500
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.279
Eric that they should have have given Enterprise a better

501
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:38.279
sea than a better ending to the mistake that they made.

502
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.799
So hopefully that it's gonna be a good story.

503
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:43.440
We'll see. But I think that's.

504
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:47.799
Where I stand with this whole conversation that I think

505
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:55.160
United and Legacy will both come to a TV near

506
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.599
home or whatever. But yeah, so to be. But yeah,

507
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:03.759
so United, That's what I'm focusing mostly on right now.

508
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:10.759
So well, you know, Charles, it's been here, Yeah he has.

509
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.480
Well, it's interesting the fact that I know a little

510
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:20.880
bit of the backstory on Star Trek Legacy. We've actually

511
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:26.440
had the person who's pushing it in our club a

512
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.839
few times, as David noticed that all those guest stars

513
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:35.079
up there, Well, guess what, David, that's not a paramount poster.

514
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:42.680
That's a fan fan created poster. Star Trek Legacy created

515
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.880
the poster. They don't actually have any contract with anybody.

516
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.039
It's a fan push. And yes, I have tried to

517
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.440
help a little bit with the fan push, but it's

518
00:30:54.519 --> 00:31:01.240
not gone anywhere. And with the fight over who who

519
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:06.160
runs and owns paramount that whole story has been bouncing too.

520
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.200
Who's receiving all the email trying to get the fans

521
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.920
begging for it. I also knows the issue that we're

522
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.519
going to run to a problem of well, we want

523
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:21.440
Patrick Stewart on this, Well, I don't know about this

524
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.079
rumor that's posted on Facebook, and I'm waiting for him

525
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.799
to actually say it, but there's a rumor going around

526
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:35.799
that Patrick Stewart is retiring. He's retiring from acting completely.

527
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.680
I've checked his personal Facebook page and nobody's posted anything

528
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.920
there yet, but one organization supposed to his claim that

529
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:51.400
he's saying he's retiring. So if he's going, how many

530
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:55.799
more of these legacy actors are we going to have

531
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.400
from the real legacy because I know the fact that

532
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:06.079
I've heard Dorn's talked about retiring more than once, And

533
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.359
are you going to have a lot of the legacy

534
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:12.039
people around because they're getting the point they're going to

535
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:17.359
be wanting to retire and enjoy what's going on after

536
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:24.039
I think Scott Bakola and having this new one is

537
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.440
I got a lot more momentum to a possibility of

538
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.000
dealing something with it, because you don't always have to

539
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:36.960
bring Legacy characters back. So I'm definitely for Legacy. I

540
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.519
want to see what they what happened with that instead

541
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:46.599
of having to recycle charactures from Star Trek Next Generation

542
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:52.920
trying to work on season nine.

543
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.559
Right, although you have the guys that's the truck Spurts

544
00:32:56.640 --> 00:33:00.720
opinions on Legacy versus United will have to come back

545
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.200
to this and see which which comes to fruition if

546
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.920
either of them do. And that was our first poll,

547
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.400
and now we have our second poll, and David's got

548
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.759
the tape ready, David do we have the tape ready?

549
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.200
All right? So David's going to roll the tape for us.

550
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:24.200
That what you put together and then we'll talk about it.

551
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:25.759
Take it away, David?

552
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:29.599
Here you all right?

553
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:39.640
That doesn't seem very friendly?

554
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.039
Didn't I say you'd better.

555
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:46.880
Be good to me?

556
00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:05.039
I'm Thursday.

557
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:09.639
It's like a man who has been blind all of

558
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.039
his life suddenly being given sight. Sometimes I feel there's

559
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.320
nothing I couldn't.

560
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:16.960
Do in time.

561
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.440
Some people think that makes me a monster, don't they?

562
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:25.880
Jim?

563
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:27.159
Are you reading all our thoughts?

564
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:27.519
Garry?

565
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.559
I can sense mainly worry in you, Jim, Safety viewer ship,

566
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.320
What would you do in my place, probably just what

567
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:37.719
mister Spock is thinking.

568
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:45.760
Now kill me, well you can, Jerry.

569
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.320
I also know what orbiting delta vega, Jim. I can't

570
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:52.559
let you force me down there.

571
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:54.280
I mean I want to leave the ship.

572
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.199
Not yet, I mean when another place.

573
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:57.480
I'm not sure yet.

574
00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:59.639
Just what kind of a world I can use?

575
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:06.239
Mitchell, whatever he's become keeps changing, growing stronger by the minute.

576
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:07.599
Station seems to be running fine.

577
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:12.480
A talented thief castle. Everything you're set up seems to

578
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:13.400
be finer than last.

579
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.599
I'm kind of proud of the job we've done.

580
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:17.519
I would ever be ready to transform on.

581
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.360
You should have killed me while you could, James, Command

582
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.480
and compassion is a fool's mixture.

583
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:48.559
They've corrupted you, but the damage can be repaired.

584
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.960
You've expended significant resources to capture me.

585
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.639
Why isn't it obvious.

586
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:03.559
You're going to help us assimilate to humanity. We failed

587
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.280
in our first attempt to assimilate Earth, and we won't

588
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.800
succeed the next time unless we understand the nature of

589
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:09.639
their resistance.

590
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:16.280
We want you to be our eyes let us see humanity.

591
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.440
Your efforts to break the encryption codes will not be successful,

592
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.800
nor will your attempt to assimilate me into your collective.

593
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:25.760
Brave words.

594
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:31.280
I've heard them before from thousands of species across thousands

595
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:33.280
of worlds, since long before.

596
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.760
You were created, And now they are all Borg.

597
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:39.440
Are you ready?

598
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:41.519
Who are you?

599
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:43.280
I am the Borg.

600
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:45.199
That is a contradiction.

601
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.239
The Borg have a collective consciousness.

602
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.199
There are no individuals.

603
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:57.599
I am in the beginning, the end, the one who

604
00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:58.880
is meny.

605
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:07.840
Critics, I am curious.

606
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:10.039
Do you control the word collective?

607
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:13.000
Your empire disparity will not exists.

608
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:20.079
I am the collectives, the world, the feder rich Here.

609
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:25.639
Your biological and technological distinctiveness will contribute to the whole.

610
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.280
Your cultures will evolve to serve the future.

611
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.679
Peace and prosperity will spread across the galaxy.

612
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:34.639
You will be as similarity.

613
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:39.159
You will exist in a universe without fear, a universe

614
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:48.440
without loss, unbroken, perfect. Those diseases are of the past.

615
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.400
Constraint will firepower.

616
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:51.239
Command fire fire.

617
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:53.599
I'm here to take you.

618
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:17.800
Is creepy, right, Eric?

619
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.079
So what's the question. What do our minions have to say?

620
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.760
Okay, great mash up there, David. Who is a more

621
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.800
dangerous adversary? Is it Gary Mitchell? Or is it the

622
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.480
board queen, and sixty one percent of our responders said,

623
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:40.760
guess what the boorg queen? Thirty nine percent said Gary Mitchell.

624
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.760
And it's a little bit of apples and rangers here

625
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.000
for me. Man Like Gary Mitchell is like interested in

626
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:50.880
exploring his own powers and seeing how far he can go,

627
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.239
and he doesn't like he's starting to think about everybody

628
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.000
else's aunts, you know, And I think the Borg thinks

629
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.800
about everybody else as like valuable recent sources that they

630
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.840
have to take over in control. So I don't know

631
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:07.039
which is more, Uh, you know, which one's gonna kill

632
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.119
a society quicker, probably the Borg. Which one has a

633
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:17.000
better chance of like being overall dominating of everything around them,

634
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.880
Gary Mitchell. So anyway I'll go I'll go Borg on

635
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.079
this one. Yeah, I'll go with dominions. What the heck.

636
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.079
You, David? Would you rather confront Gary Mitchell or deal

637
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.480
with assimilation by the Boorg?

638
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:34.800
Is you a third option like mister wicktt here? But

639
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:40.079
you can use okay? Yeah?

640
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:40.719
Uh.

641
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:44.559
Putting these two videos together really made me think quite

642
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.639
a lot about the because I was like, wow, Gary Mitchell,

643
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.519
he got he kind of got like this Q thing

644
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.639
going on so I'm like not quite there with like

645
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.559
the finger snapping, but just the idea that he's able

646
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.320
to manipulate physical objects and stuff just to be able

647
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:05.000
too's h do havoc upon wherever he is. And I

648
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:11.159
was thinking, like, so was that idea him being able

649
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.639
to do that? And in the clip it mentioned that

650
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:18.039
he's growing with power every moment, So if he would

651
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.360
have continued, would he would.

652
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.760
Could he have become a cue? I don't know so.

653
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:25.880
And then also when I was looking at the bog

654
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:27.599
and stuff, you know, being part of.

655
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.360
A a uh what.

656
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.519
Do they call it, a hybrid mind or something that

657
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:40.400
hide mind, hide mind, being able to like just computing

658
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.280
with everybody at like lightening speed or whatever. So it's like,

659
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.639
I mean, so probably be uncomfortable. We're gonna need some

660
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:50.320
sort of scream for skins and stuff. But to me,

661
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:51.159
I don't know.

662
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:56.760
Really this one, this one kind of wraps warps my

663
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.199
mind a little bit because it's like, I guess it

664
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:06.320
really depends on this ccumstance. To me, oh, if I

665
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.159
have to, if I have to pick one, I'm gonna

666
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:11.159
have to go with the Borg on this one, mainly

667
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:16.679
because to me, they just seem more advanced. Was like

668
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:20.440
thousands of wolves and whatnot. But yeah, the board that's

669
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:21.079
the one I picked.

670
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:24.079
All right, how about you, V.

671
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.639
I think the Borg because they seem to be more

672
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:40.599
I guess, more numerous, I have greater numbers and they can. Yeah,

673
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:43.639
they've got for I don't know how many board ships

674
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.320
out there, because we kept on seeing the Borg defeated

675
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.320
and then oh wait they're back, you know, so they

676
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.440
seem to be more I guess I'm not not omnimpotent,

677
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.599
that's not the right word. Plus, I just like the

678
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.360
the effects of that Borg, you know, just her head

679
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.199
in her metal spine just sort of coming down and

680
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:09.760
getting into her body and she's taking human form. And

681
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.519
I saw actually a video on how they did that.

682
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.719
That's kind of cool.

683
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.239
Yeah. I just I think the Borg is just more

684
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.880
just more sinister. How about that? I agree with dominions

685
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:22.639
boor Queen.

686
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:26.599
All right, how about you, Charles? What do you think?

687
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:33.719
Well, Okay, Gary Mitchell had Gary and maybe one other person,

688
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.320
just the two of them. Whereas you've got the Boar Queen.

689
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:46.480
She's got the entire hive and the collective, and she

690
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.599
how many different positions, how many different times did we

691
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:53.599
end up seeing the Boar Queen, the Boar Queen and

692
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:59.360
the Borg showed up in Next Generation, showed up, and

693
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:04.159
Void showed up in the movie, showed up in Bricard,

694
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:10.239
and we saw several queens we saw, I think one

695
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.719
Gary Mitchell. So I think I kind of agree with

696
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:15.599
the minions on this one. I think of the Board

697
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.960
Queen and the Collective is a lot more scarier than

698
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:20.519
just Gary, just Gary Mitchell.

699
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.920
All right, Paul, what do you think?

700
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.519
Yeah, it's tough because so different. Really, it's it's a

701
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:36.199
you know, a little apples and orange v of a choice.

702
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:41.199
I mean, certainly the Board Queen. You know, technologies, I

703
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:46.320
think always a little scarier than to us than a

704
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:50.199
peer can be, just because especially as we've seen, technologies

705
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.920
advances so quickly, you know, and then we don't really

706
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.599
have control of it. So I mean I associate the

707
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:59.960
Boorg with technology, and yeah, they have millions of ships,

708
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.760
they're big, and they're overwhelming, you know, So you know,

709
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:07.679
probably from that perspective, sure, maybe the Borg. But but

710
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:10.960
you know, Gary Mitchell was just getting started, right, he

711
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:15.360
was just beginning to fulfill his potential before you know,

712
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.800
Kirk took him out right, and you know what Gary

713
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.800
Mitchell has that the Borg doesn't have as an ego

714
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.280
right as we saw in those scenes there, and an

715
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:30.119
ego is incredibly dangerous, as we those of us living

716
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:33.760
in the United States right now can attest to. So

717
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.639
it's right now, I'm a little more scared of the

718
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.400
ego driven villain than of the technological one. But it's

719
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:44.239
kind of fifty to fifty, So I don't know I

720
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.440
can really choose one of the other friends on this one.

721
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.840
And you know, I think it just depends if Gary

722
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.920
as he was, if he was allowed to become omnipotent,

723
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.639
you know, then yeah, he can potentially rival what the

724
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.800
Borg's able to do. So I don't know that I

725
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:01.360
would really just.

726
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:08.559
Pick one, all right, I I think that that I

727
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.360
think it's I have to go with the Boorg, especially

728
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:14.079
the clip that that David put together.

729
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:18.760
The boy Queen originally was interested in assimilating people, which

730
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.480
was taking away your humanity and making you part of

731
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.760
a collective and whatnot. But then she became a cannibal

732
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:31.480
on Startsip Picard and she actually started eating the Borg alive.

733
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:37.280
So you know, having your individual individuality stolen from you

734
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:42.079
and then having your flesh eating off of your living body.

735
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:47.599
You know, pretty terrifying stuff. So yeah, I have to

736
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.079
go with the Borg on this one for sure. You know,

737
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.239
I don't think Gary Mitchell was going to eat people.

738
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.280
I don't think you know that type of stuff. So

739
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.000
I gotta go with the Borg on this one, especially

740
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.440
the way the Queen got so demented at the end there.

741
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.800
So I'm going to go with the board. And that

742
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.719
wraps up our polls for tonight, guys. But guess what,

743
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:18.039
We're not done. There's more we have we have What

744
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.400
do we have? How come we don't have it? There?

745
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:21.000
We have it?

746
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.119
And you know what that music means. It's once again

747
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:27.599
time to put on your thinking caps and join us

748
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:31.000
for Star Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim.

749
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.119
So last week we did taglines for movies, which I

750
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.880
think was a lot of fun. I think everybody enjoyed it,

751
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.599
and we talked about a lot of movies Saturn three

752
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:45.519
other than Star Trek. So I thought we would do

753
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:49.119
it again, and I it was tough because I'm trying

754
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.159
to stick with movies that I that I know people

755
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.360
are going to know because there's a lot of you know,

756
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.039
obscure stuff out there, so I'm trying to really stay

757
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.480
mainstream with the stuff. So well, you know, we'll see

758
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.320
how it goes this week. So my first tagline is

759
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:10.920
going to go out for Paul, and Paul is he's

760
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:13.320
there with me. So I'm pretty sure Paul has seen

761
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.639
this movie and I'm going to put the pressure right

762
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.960
on him. So here we go go. Man, this is

763
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:25.360
a tagline. This nineteen eighty Roger Corman cult favorite had

764
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:31.239
the tagline A Battle beyond Time, a Battle beyond space.

765
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:39.320
Okay, we are talking about a fun little could picture

766
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:44.440
with the title of Battle beyond the Stars. Okay. Is

767
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.679
memorable for a couple of things. It's basically a remake

768
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.599
of The Magnificent Seven, which itself was a remake of

769
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.639
Seven Samurai, Right, So you basically it's that whole idea

770
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.920
of a bunch of disparate you know, outlaws coming to the

771
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:03.880
other to save you know, a common vulnerable, you know

772
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.000
group that are being threatened by someone else.

773
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:06.199
Right.

774
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.239
So it's basically, you know, Magnificent seven in space. Right.

775
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.840
But it's really interesting, is really early in his career,

776
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.039
a guy who did a huge amount of the special

777
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.320
effects on Battle Beyond the Stars and used it as

778
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.880
a launching pad for his career into directing science fiction movies.

779
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:29.000
Was none a very young Canadian filmmaker named James Cameron, Right,

780
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:32.599
and so Battle Beyond the Stars very interesting to look

781
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.599
at these days because there's a lot of stuff that

782
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.480
casts a long shadow. So, yeah, Battle Beyond the Stars

783
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:41.719
friends was I right after all that. I got to

784
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:41.960
help it.

785
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:46.800
Yeah, and John Boy Walton stars in it as well.

786
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.400
Richard Thomas odd to see him other than John Boy,

787
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:53.639
but you you know he's in.

788
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:55.559
John Saxon is also in it.

789
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.840
Yeah. I think Robert Vaughans ended if I remember Sybil Dan.

790
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.760
Yes, isn't it yep, yep?

791
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:07.360
Cheesy? You're going to see a spaceship with boobs? Okay,

792
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.360
I just warn you if you're going to see there's

793
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.400
a spaceship as like you know, thirty four d's coming

794
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.679
out the front, right, I mean, it's ridiculous, but you know,

795
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:18.119
there you go. I mean it was just you know,

796
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:20.639
it's Roger Corman is if a man had anything had

797
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:23.599
a sense of humor. Right, So it's it's fun stuff

798
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:25.840
but holds up pretty well. You know, it's entertaining. You know,

799
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:26.880
it's goofy is not the.

800
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:32.280
One where he where Richard Thomas trying to because that

801
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.679
sounds so familiar and I have to have seen it

802
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.519
where he switches or maybe I'm thinking of a Twilight

803
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.800
Zone episode. I don't know, but anyway, he switches worlds

804
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:44.000
or something like that.

805
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.880
Now am I hallucinating?

806
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.159
I need a little more information to really know.

807
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:54.039
I just remember that he he got sent off in

808
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:59.119
a spaceship and he's like going to a different world.

809
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:01.639
Man, I shouldn't.

810
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.039
He's going to several different different I think he's if

811
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.679
I'm following, he's going to recruit the Bounty Hunters to

812
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:09.360
save his plan.

813
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.400
Now I'm thinking I'm thinking of something different. I don't know.

814
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.559
I'm confused that I just blamed the Energy Vampire, so

815
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:18.239
I don't.

816
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:23.280
It's one of those cheesy eighty movies, you know, but

817
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.440
I love it. It's a lot of fun. If you

818
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:27.679
haven't seen that'll be on the Star to check it out.

819
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:31.400
I think you'll. I think you'll like it. So so far,

820
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:32.960
we're we're one for one.

821
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:33.679
Eric.

822
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:38.239
I'm looking at you, buddy, Lordy. All right, here we go,

823
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:44.039
there we go? Okay, So here we go. Eric. This

824
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:49.760
nineteen sixty eight classic film asked the question, somewhere in

825
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:53.599
the universe there must be something better than man.

826
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:58.440
Nineteen sixty eight. I mean that's the same year in

827
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:10.880
two thousand and one came out. Yeah that so is

828
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:12.960
it a science fiction movie?

829
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.880
Well, it's not a space movie per se. It does

830
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:21.079
start in space but ends up on a planet.

831
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:24.039
Mm hmm.

832
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:25.760
I can't say too much.

833
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:28.920
Disappointed anyway, Oh my god.

834
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.679
I can't. I love to through awhile hints, but any

835
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.280
hint I would give, you would just would give it?

836
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:36.800
What is it?

837
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:38.719
Just just give it to me one more time. Somewhere

838
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:39.440
in the universe.

839
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:44.639
Somewhere in the universe, there must be something better than man.

840
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:46.960
See what can I tell you?

841
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.159
Something better than man?

842
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:54.639
Because this one's so obvious. Anything I tell you, you would

843
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:55.360
you would.

844
00:51:58.039 --> 00:51:59.760
Give me one hint?

845
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:00.480
Vague?

846
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:05.760
Okay, I do that. The sacred scrolls, the sacred scrolls.

847
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:11.199
Wait, the secrets like enough.

848
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.880
You know you know it or you don't know it?

849
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:19.719
Yeah, okay, Okay, I can't do it. Okay, Yeah, sorry,

850
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:24.639
forbidden Zone. Okay, I haven't seen it.

851
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.280
Oh yes, you must have seen it a million times.

852
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:31.880
There's thirteen movies you have seen the oh.

853
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:40.320
Those okay, okay, yeah, license the original tagline, Okay, sorry,

854
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:42.639
what do you think?

855
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:43.239
What?

856
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:43.840
What is it?

857
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.800
What did you say the we're going to hear the title?

858
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.239
The uh?

859
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.440
I don't know. Didn't you just say forbidden Zone? Isn't

860
00:52:58.440 --> 00:52:58.960
that the name of.

861
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.440
The key element in there?

862
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:02.119
But?

863
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:04.159
What? What movie series are we talking about? A very

864
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.800
popular movie series in the sixties and early seventies, very popular.

865
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:13.079
They made a TV series, they made an animated series. Recently,

866
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:14.559
there's been a movie. I think it was a couple

867
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.599
of years ago that the latest one came out.

868
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:17.840
It was a very.

869
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:20.360
Obscure actor named Charlton Heston in the first one.

870
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:23.000
Oh the Apes.

871
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:31.559
Yes, I was about to say it was a dune.

872
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:33.559
Oh my god.

873
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:36.599
That was that was.

874
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:42.840
Proving really is that's what I Yeah, Sorry.

875
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.559
We're gonna We're gonna Okay, I get it. On this one,

876
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:50.400
I thought for sure because you were the two last week.

877
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:52.159
I figured you would know this one because they came

878
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:53.119
out the same time.

879
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:56.719
Absolutely, I didn't realize. I had that in my mind

880
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:59.639
as a seventies phenomenon. I didn't realize it was sixty eight.

881
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.639
The original movie yeah, but it went on. There was

882
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.119
there was five original movies, series, animated sit Yeah, it

883
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:09.920
just went on and never stopped. All right, Charles, we're

884
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:15.079
gonna turn the heat up on you, ready, Okay, all right,

885
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:21.119
there's nineteen ninety six John Carpenter sequel told us Snake

886
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:22.079
is Back.

887
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:26.719
This is what I know.

888
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:37.639
I gotta say, the worst sequel I've ever seen compared

889
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:42.599
to the classic. Awesome, that's off the original. But that's okay,

890
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:46.159
still a fun, cheesy movie.

891
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.800
You didn't see as much in the ninety eight I don't.

892
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.559
I'm not positive I know the sequel.

893
00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:00.360
Oh god, I'm trying. I'm just oh man, Okay, I

894
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:06.840
know David knows it though, Right, guys, I'm trying to

895
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.000
make you so easy.

896
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:11.639
Give it to Eric. Give it to Eric before he explodes.

897
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:16.119
Okay, Eric, I know this one because I was actually

898
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:19.119
working at the movie theater when this movie came out.

899
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:20.599
This is, of course, escape.

900
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:20.760
From l A.

901
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.760
Yeah, it has to escape from l A. That's from

902
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:30.440
l A. Oh. I remember someone asked John Carpenter if

903
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.559
he was going to be Snake clisking back, and he said, no,

904
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:34.599
I brought him back last time, and no one went

905
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:40.800
to see him, well a better movie with anyway.

906
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.159
He was going to do a one Escape from Earth

907
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:45.760
right and it was going to be an outer space,

908
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.280
but then the second one did so poorly. They didn't

909
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:50.519
they didn't fall through with it.

910
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:58.920
Yeah, that was a shame. I love Snake Cliskin. He's awesome.

911
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:05.360
You're ready to redeemed stated my easy ones haven't been

912
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:09.800
so easy. The hardest one I think with Paul's and

913
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.880
he got off. All right, David, the pressure is on.

914
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.360
But I know I know that you know this one

915
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.280
because I just know it. I can see the look

916
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:23.679
in your It's the same look you had before we

917
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:26.119
went live. So I know that you know it.

918
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:29.000
Why can't I stop this echo?

919
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:35.559
There we go? Okay, you're probably are going to get

920
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:37.480
it just from my when I read it. So this

921
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:43.079
is this nineteen eighty four Wes Craven classic horror movie

922
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:48.119
having a tagline if Nancy doesn't wake up screaming, she

923
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:54.039
doesn't wake up at all. And I know you know it, Nancy, I.

924
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:54.679
Can get that.

925
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:55.000
Luck.

926
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:56.559
There's the luck.

927
00:56:59.119 --> 00:56:59.440
Was that it?

928
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:01.599
No?

929
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:07.280
Okay, I'm not I'm not a very big horror fan, so.

930
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:11.159
But this movie, this is I know it. I know

931
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:16.559
this is I figured it was so easy, But the

932
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:22.960
answer is pretty much everything is right there, David, David,

933
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:28.360
reach in her deep and pull it out, buddy. If

934
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:34.920
Nancy doesn't wake up screaming, she doesn't wake up at all, or.

935
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:37.599
I'm not.

936
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:43.480
Well, nightmare on Elm Street.

937
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:45.960
That's right, nightmare.

938
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:47.159
And I've seen that.

939
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:47.960
Yeah.

940
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.440
I actually haven't about it, so.

941
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:56.239
I wouldn't have seen it if it hadn't been for

942
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.960
one of our previous co hosts who was in it.

943
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:03.480
That's right. Yeah, I figured that David would get that

944
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:07.360
just yeah, just from Leslie Hoffman being in the movie.

945
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.360
We've talked about it a good jillion times. Well, Dave,

946
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:18.719
he with us. Well, we're going to put the We're

947
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:20.480
going to put the spotlight on you. And this is

948
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:26.719
another really easy this is really hand. It looks very difficult.

949
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:29.559
In fact, I don't think you're going to get this one. Okay,

950
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:30.119
how's that?

951
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:32.119
Thanks for that vote of confidence.

952
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:39.639
All right. This nineteen ninety seven movie tagline said, protecting

953
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:47.039
the Earth from the scum of the Universe. Hmmm, protecting,

954
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.920
Protecting the Earth from the scum of the Universe, nineteen

955
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:56.320
ninety seven. This was the original movie. There was three

956
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:57.280
sequels after that.

957
00:58:57.360 --> 00:58:59.840
I think, yeah, you're right, this is a tough one,

958
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:03.559
protecting some of the earth.

959
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:09.719
I will I could say something really snarky, but I won't. God, Okay,

960
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:11.440
I need one. I need a little hint.

961
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.599
It's three letters, three letters.

962
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:20.039
Well, it's it can be three.

963
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:20.679
Letters, can be.

964
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:23.960
That narrows it down.

965
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:31.679
Well, is a great a great song.

966
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:33.840
Star Trek five dig.

967
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:47.800
That's not really early authentic.

968
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:51.239
That was early so I had no idea.

969
00:59:51.280 --> 01:00:00.519
What mm hmm, I.

970
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:06.280
Beg you make him stop? Put me you gotta stop.

971
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:10.000
Okay, Yeah, you.

972
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:12.880
Got the comb with the you know, the toilet paper

973
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:13.320
in front of me.

974
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:20.760
You know, I actually had a worm guy, a little

975
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:22.679
little stuff figure that used to say.

976
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.920
I mean, I'm so that Oh boy, that is that

977
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:27.119
is such a joke.

978
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:28.920
That I will not. I will not when you said

979
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.000
warm guy, I'm not going to say it. I'm not

980
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.119
gonna say, well.

981
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:36.840
I think we're talking about that black.

982
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:42.440
I just watched that movie. How do I not?

983
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:43.679
Yeah?

984
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:45.000
Three of them?

985
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:58.480
God and give it comes men in Black anyway. Here,

986
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:01.440
here's what I will say. Men in Black has one

987
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:04.119
of my favorite lines of all time, which I think

988
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:11.920
is poignant in any context, which is a person is smart,

989
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:14.039
but people are stupid.

990
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.880
Well actually, actually yeah, it's probably they probably say that.

991
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:22.599
But he also says because when when James before he

992
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:27.159
turns into Men in Black, a man in Black, he says,

993
01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:29.960
you know, why why not tell you know, why not reveal.

994
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:30.639
This to people?

995
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:38.079
And Case says, a person is smart, people are dumb, panicky,

996
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:40.679
dangerous animals and you know it.

997
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:44.719
So that's a good one.

998
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:45.559
There we go.

999
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:48.360
Yeah it is.

1000
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:50.760
Yeah, and I just watched it, so I should get

1001
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.199
sort of credit because I knew Nightmare on Elm Street,

1002
01:01:54.239 --> 01:02:00.360
which I've never seen, and Men in Black, which I love.

1003
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:03.280
So that's a great movie.

1004
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:03.679
It is.

1005
01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:06.920
It is so many good lines in it. Co worker

1006
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:11.239
of mine, and we used to recite the lines back

1007
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:13.280
and forth. And one of these days I'm going to

1008
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:17.760
meet Vincent Inofrio who was Eggar and ask him if

1009
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:19.400
he wants sugar in water?

1010
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:24.280
So sugar, yes, that's because that's how he says it.

1011
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:28.239
Anyway, and that and the oh, and get a decorator

1012
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:30.639
in here quick, because damn.

1013
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:33.719
The baldans.

1014
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:36.280
Oh yeah that's in two. Yeah, that's in two.

1015
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:47.000
That's in too. Yeah. Anyway, you're ready, you're ready, so

1016
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:51.599
figuring that, uh, that you were the youngster of the gang.

1017
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:53.639
I tried to come up with a movie that wasn't

1018
01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:57.039
from the eighties, okay, that I figured, you know, you

1019
01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:59.519
would have the best chance of seeing because it's not

1020
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:04.199
from the because that's not fair, because we're all old.

1021
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:11.360
This movie, this, this particular movie came out in two

1022
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:17.039
thousand and five and it starred Tom Cruise and it's

1023
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:21.719
a remake of a nineteen fifty three classic that said

1024
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:31.280
they're already here with the tagline, I'm assuming it's a

1025
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.000
sci fi movie with Tom Cruise in two thousand and five.

1026
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:37.880
It's a remake of a nineteen fifty three movie, which

1027
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:39.679
is I don't know if you can call it a remake,

1028
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.199
but is a film adaptation of a radio.

1029
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:47.400
What was that title?

1030
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.960
I know it, Yeah, I kind of have it in

1031
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:56.960
my head of what is she like, like an explorer

1032
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.559
or something just trapped on a planet?

1033
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:04.719
Nope, nope, but there there there are things dropping on

1034
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:05.760
a planet in the movie.

1035
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.199
I can't remember what the movie was called, but I

1036
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:14.920
haven't in my head. I can't remember. Somebody else wanted it.

1037
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:19.960
Yeah, yeah, War of the World's War of the World.

1038
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:26.920
Radio the radio show that Orson Wells narrated scared, I

1039
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.920
mean like scared the crap out of people, and they

1040
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.760
thought that actual aliens were landing and they were just

1041
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:34.960
so freaked out.

1042
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:38.920
Yeah, yeah, I forgot he played in that movie.

1043
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:44.400
I did too, because yeah, but but I just remember yep,

1044
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.400
and listening to that radio program is actually it is

1045
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.199
the way because Orson Wells was just, you know, really

1046
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:54.599
pretty phenomenal, I think. But the way he narrat it,

1047
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:56.760
I mean, you do believe that, you know, it's so

1048
01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:01.320
believable you think that there are aliens landing, so so

1049
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:02.639
nowadays I think they just.

1050
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:06.719
It tuned in late to it and you heard what

1051
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:10.880
was going on. You know, there was a TV you

1052
01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:13.119
might you might actually believe that. I think it was

1053
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:18.119
on Halloween it originally, yeah, played on the radio. Yeah.

1054
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.239
Now I think aliens just like lock their doors and

1055
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:22.760
cruise on by.

1056
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:32.760
So we're gonna keep yeah all right, So Eric, are

1057
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:38.079
you ready again? We're not gonna we're gonna jump out

1058
01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.159
of the eighties here, believe it or not. Okay, Okay,

1059
01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:44.639
We're gonna go to two thousand and two. Okay, and

1060
01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:48.000
this isn't actually yeah, it is this two thousand and

1061
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:53.360
two m Night Shyamalan movie said, it's not like they

1062
01:05:53.400 --> 01:06:01.679
didn't warn us was the original tagline, And uh, I

1063
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:05.079
know this one. It's not like they didn't warrant us.

1064
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:10.480
So I feel like I know this from the this

1065
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:14.960
is from the the one with the uh hold on,

1066
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:17.280
I got this starts with an ass.

1067
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:21.400
It does start with an ass, and it ends with

1068
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:22.000
an ass too.

1069
01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:25.480
Got science science That's right.

1070
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.639
That was creepy movie. When I first saw that, it.

1071
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:33.760
Was so crazy. I just remember like, yeah.

1072
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:38.400
Yeah, that's and the little kid that was to make

1073
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:42.599
a movie. Yep, that was No Gibson.

1074
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:47.039
That was the Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix I think

1075
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:51.400
he was. That's We watched that movie all the time.

1076
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:56.159
That that is a really good were the all right,

1077
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:03.400
doctor Bimbo, the that's all right me, we're going to

1078
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.760
swim back to you and we're going to go back

1079
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:08.119
to the eighties because I'm an eighties kind of guy,

1080
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:11.840
and you did so well with the last one.

1081
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:15.159
Yeah, so well, I answered, I answered one. I didn't

1082
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.480
know my own, but I mean I would have known

1083
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.599
it if I had. Anyway, I'm going to shut up.

1084
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:27.480
Just yeah, this nineteen eighty four Steven Spielberg classic film

1085
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:32.199
warned us what you see isn't always what you get,

1086
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:37.239
And there was another tagline that was used on some

1087
01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:40.440
of the posters, but I think it would it would

1088
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:43.360
have given it away too quickly. I'll give you a second,

1089
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:45.760
tom all that one over and I'll tell you.

1090
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:52.280
What always what you get? Huh that sounds like over?

1091
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:59.880
Hmm yeap, that had to. So it was that Jaws two.

1092
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.920
Birth Keep out of the Sunlight.

1093
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:08.039
Oh, keep out of the sune, don't.

1094
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:09.599
Ever feed them after?

1095
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:22.399
Yeah, yeah, with that tag on a boat, because that

1096
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:25.199
one just gives it, just the whole movie gives you.

1097
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:30.199
It was Phoebe Kate's was in that and that was

1098
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:32.079
the magay right.

1099
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:39.760
Yes, yes, yeah, all right, and they were so cute too.

1100
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:43.560
That's where they got wet.

1101
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.680
And the strife and started eating people. That wasn't cool.

1102
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:49.479
But that's a great movie. Though many of our listeners

1103
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:52.479
haven't seen Grandma's check it out. I think it holds

1104
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:58.119
up well with time. All right, Charles, you're ready, we're

1105
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.880
gonna We're gonna stick in the eighties. Like I said,

1106
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:04.760
I'm an eighties kind of guy. And okay, I'm a

1107
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:08.600
betting man, and I am I bet the entire house

1108
01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:11.520
that Charles is going to get this one. I'm going

1109
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:15.039
to throw it all in there, all that Charles has it.

1110
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:20.039
I guarantee you, guys, Charles has it. All right, not

1111
01:09:20.199 --> 01:09:23.239
to put the pressure on, but he's got it. He's

1112
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:28.640
got it. Okay, this nineteen eighty movie. Ask the question,

1113
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:31.800
pathetic earth Wings? Who can save you?

1114
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:32.159
Now?

1115
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:43.239
Nineteen eighty and he's not And he's not getting it.

1116
01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:44.479
I guess I have to know the house.

1117
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.800
No, I think.

1118
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:56.119
Pathetic earth Wings? Who can save you? Now? I know

1119
01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:58.680
Paul knows this one. That's why I didn't ask Paul,

1120
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:04.319
because he would have gotten that one. Run away after

1121
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:08.359
you snagged the question from David last week, the same.

1122
01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:19.399
And you know I'll give you use it by queen.

1123
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:24.399
Oh was that flash?

1124
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:31.760
Wow? Oh God, I owe I owe the house to wow.

1125
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:35.840
Yourself.

1126
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:40.199
Jim is how I myself? Yeah? All right? So uh

1127
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:46.760
Paul is going to be a big savior here. Okay, yeah, yeah, so.

1128
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:47.920
I gotta I got a favorite.

1129
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:49.920
I got a favorite.

1130
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:50.800
I got a favorite.

1131
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:52.079
I got a favorite.

1132
01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:55.640
After I do this, I want to ask you one, Jim. Okay,

1133
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:59.079
it's only fair, I'll do mine. You're gonna let me

1134
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:00.760
ask you one.

1135
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:07.359
Okay, This nineteen eighty nine James Cameron movie said there's

1136
01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:12.880
everything you've ever known about adventure, and then there's dot

1137
01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:13.720
dot Dot.

1138
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.960
Nineteen eighty nine. I'm pretty sure. Oh boy, this is

1139
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:20.880
tough because I'm big James Cameron fan. Right, I don't

1140
01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.199
want to get this wrong, but I feel really embarrassed.

1141
01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:26.119
I'm pretty sure it's the Abyss.

1142
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:27.800
The Abyss, that's right. This was the movie. This is

1143
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:31.479
I think was the movie that really put him on

1144
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:32.600
the map at that point.

1145
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:37.399
I think I think, yeah, right, I mean he that

1146
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:40.239
Doe huge success with like the Aliens, right, that was,

1147
01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:42.439
And I think this is the movie he made after Aliens.

1148
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:45.279
I'm pretty sure, right, and then he was like becoming

1149
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:48.239
like a tour guy. But okay, yeah, so great picture,

1150
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:52.439
really really good stuff. Okay, man, I was a really

1151
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:54.840
good Are you ready?

1152
01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:56.680
I'm ready?

1153
01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:00.600
Okay, because I know you love the eighties and I

1154
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:03.439
I would bet green money you've seen this movie, okay,

1155
01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:06.199
I am. And an actor that you're very fond of

1156
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:08.039
is in this movie. So I'm giving you a hint

1157
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:11.359
before I even tell you what it is. Okay, nineteen

1158
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:16.279
eighty five, all right, nineteen eighty five, and here's the tagline.

1159
01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:26.800
In the blink of an eye, the terror begins.

1160
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:28.520
Event horizon.

1161
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:32.199
Now, now this is before, this is earlier than that,

1162
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:39.119
Earlier than that. I'm gonna give you a hint. Patrick

1163
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:42.880
Stewart is in this movie.

1164
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:46.159
M Life Force.

1165
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:54.720
Yeah, that's it. That's it. Very Lubby Hooper, director of

1166
01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:58.319
Texas Chainsaw, Massacre of Poltergeist, made this picture. It features

1167
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:01.000
nude space vampires. And if you need more of a

1168
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:02.800
reason to check it out than that, I don't know

1169
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:03.399
what to tell you.

1170
01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:06.119
But that's really.

1171
01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:09.560
It's a great, terrific cult movie. Though. It's great.

1172
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:15.640
Patrick Stewart first on screen, kiss and it's with a man.

1173
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:20.199
So you guys want to see Patrick Steart kiss a man.

1174
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:21.359
Check out life for us.

1175
01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:27.920
Pretty hilarious. It's really we're going three D. It's as hell,

1176
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:31.000
but it shouldn't work, but it's it's pretty entertaining.

1177
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:35.720
It really is, it really is. It's it's it's a

1178
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:41.119
classic for sure. All right. That wraps up our taglines.

1179
01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:43.560
Next week we're going to go in a different direction.

1180
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:46.840
We're gonna go back to Star Trek, So we want

1181
01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:48.960
to hang out. We're gonna we're gonna talk well, I

1182
01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:53.439
won't tell you, all right, So now it's time to

1183
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:56.720
talk about con the radio drama, Episode six, and for

1184
01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:59.079
that we're gonna have Paul give us a quick rundown.

1185
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:01.600
The mic is yours, all.

1186
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:03.399
Right, it's going to be as quick as I could

1187
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.760
be again. Episode six the good of all okay, And

1188
01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.479
basically the way I would say it is, we kind

1189
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:12.159
of have a couple of things going on. We have

1190
01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:17.279
this conflict between the way Khan is leading people, which

1191
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:21.239
is pretty insular leadership, I would say, and the way

1192
01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:27.880
our new alien friend Delmanda is, you know, showing the

1193
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:33.520
Elborian's style of collaborative leadership, right as impending disaster ticks

1194
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:37.439
ever closer. Right, So there's that going on right back

1195
01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:41.760
on the planet on SETI Alpha five. And meanwhile, there's

1196
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:44.439
a little bit of tension happening on the good old

1197
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:51.880
Excelsior between Captain Sulu and doctor Lear right, and Sulu

1198
01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:57.079
seems a little suspicious of doctor Lear's motivations there because

1199
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:01.119
the seems to be hooked on the idea that the

1200
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:06.800
eugenics Wars narrative is maybe not completely under percent right,

1201
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:10.039
So there's a little a little strain going on there.

1202
01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:14.319
He and when I say who he, I mean Sulu.

1203
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.000
Sulu and Tulac are kind of debating what doctor Lear's

1204
01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:21.920
true intentions really are. Tubac, though, believes that Sulu might

1205
01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:24.760
be a little biased, and he basically says, I think

1206
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:27.039
that doctor Lear should uncover the truth no matter what,

1207
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:31.199
even if it contradicts what Starfleet knows, which is pretty cool.

1208
01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:31.600
Right.

1209
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:35.000
There's a lot of growing friction among the augments. There's

1210
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:38.600
a lot of ambition and mistrust. Ivan's kind of losing

1211
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:42.800
his brains completely doing all kinds of things that taken

1212
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:48.600
beyond redemption here. It's sort of interspersed with some tender moments.

1213
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:51.399
At one point, con and Marline are talking about naming

1214
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:55.000
their child, right. But there's a lot of tragedy in

1215
01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:59.159
the air, right. I believe they're referring to the underground

1216
01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:03.279
ocean as being the sunless sea at this point, but

1217
01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:05.640
there's no marine life, so what do you eat?

1218
01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:05.840
All?

1219
01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:08.119
Right, So they're kind of running into a lot of

1220
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:13.520
you know, sort of up against bad odds everywhere you look.

1221
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:17.159
We're also learning that the Elborians, I think we talked

1222
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:20.640
about this last week, we're willing to actually devise maybe

1223
01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:23.359
making a spaceship to help these guys get off the planet,

1224
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:26.560
help the Augments escape, which could be good, right, But

1225
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:29.119
I don't know if that's going to work out there.

1226
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:33.680
We'll see. I mean, it seems like a generous, benevolent

1227
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:37.239
act if, but there's a lot of ego getting in

1228
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:41.479
the way here from things, and it seems like there's

1229
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:45.319
ego on a lot of different fronts from things. So

1230
01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:51.239
I'm not sure. Things don't look very very optimistic at

1231
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:54.039
the end of this episode. But I'd rather hear what

1232
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:56.680
you guys think so and then I'll come back and

1233
01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:59.039
tell you what I think as far as a number

1234
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:01.359
grade later. I'm a little on the fence about a

1235
01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:03.880
couple of things. I think I need to hear the

1236
01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:09.760
check collective if you will help center me on a score.

1237
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:12.199
I really don't know if I've got one, but I'm

1238
01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:15.520
really have convictions on so I'm still a little malleable

1239
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:16.039
like Clay.

1240
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:23.960
Well, then would you like to help mold Paul? Sure?

1241
01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:28.760
I guess no, it was I thought it was a

1242
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:34.199
very intense episode. First off, you have that exchanged between

1243
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:38.239
Tuvak and Sulu and I actually wrote down there's a

1244
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:41.840
quote because Sulu makes no bones about how he feels

1245
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:45.720
about Khan. Let's see if I can read this, the

1246
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:50.840
thing that and this is, I mean transcends Star Trek.

1247
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:54.479
This is just a good quote for I guess humanity

1248
01:17:54.560 --> 01:17:58.119
in general. But it says the problem with evil isn't

1249
01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:03.760
that we don't understand it. It's that the practice of

1250
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:08.600
it is incompatible with the peace and happiness of all

1251
01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:13.920
other living things. If your happiness depends upon the suffering

1252
01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:21.159
of others, if peace, peaceful sorry peaceful coexistence through compromise

1253
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:26.039
is an unacceptable outcome, there is simply no place for

1254
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:31.199
you in a civilized society. That just, boy, I just

1255
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:34.560
fool right in the right in the gut, so that

1256
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:39.680
he made no bones about how he feels. Con though

1257
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.039
in the tapes we hear that Marla is really I guess,

1258
01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:47.720
softening him, trying to get him to trust the Elborians.

1259
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:51.119
But then you have Ivan who turns out to be

1260
01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:54.439
the homicidal maniac that we all knew that he was

1261
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:57.960
going to be, and he kills one of the what

1262
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:01.720
did they call him elbs first short or elves or something.

1263
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:06.800
He kills that poor guy, you know, the poor alien

1264
01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:12.920
in the forest. But then Ivan winds up getting getting punished.

1265
01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:17.199
But I thought it was interesting that what's his name,

1266
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:19.600
bell I keeping Belmondo.

1267
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:23.560
Del Mondo has that they have a sort of a

1268
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:28.600
collective thought process called the pandem, which sort of reminded

1269
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.279
me a little bit of the Borg collective.

1270
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:34.319
You know, one mind. So I thought that was interesting.

1271
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:41.680
And of course at the very end, when doctor lear

1272
01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:45.880
Is asked where she you know, she she admits where

1273
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:48.199
she got the tapes in the first place.

1274
01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:53.960
It's like, can I reveal this? Is it? Okay? Yeah, okay?

1275
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:55.159
He said, yeah.

1276
01:19:55.199 --> 01:20:00.159
She says she got them from del Mondo, and and

1277
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:04.199
they're wondering if that's the same one that had been

1278
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:07.000
on the planet. And it's like, I thought, what are

1279
01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:09.279
the odds that two aliens are going to have the

1280
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:14.159
same name? So uh and then is it tu Voc says, well,

1281
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:16.760
is this the same one that was on the planet,

1282
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:19.239
because if it was, then it means that he got

1283
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:21.960
off the planet. And then doctor Lere says no, no,

1284
01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:25.720
don't jump ahead, which I thought was like, oh yeah, wait, wait.

1285
01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:29.279
Till next week's episode. But yeah, it was. It was

1286
01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:30.600
very powerful.

1287
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:34.640
Because they're you know, Con and Marla are thinking about

1288
01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:38.560
naming their baby, but then that other couple they wound

1289
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:44.119
up losing theirs, which was just absolutely tragic in the

1290
01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:49.560
collapse of the cave. So so there's tragedy, there's love,

1291
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:55.359
there's hope, there's you know, murderous rampage, there's there's everything.

1292
01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:58.479
So do you want me to give my rating?

1293
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:02.000
Because I would say it's a solid, absolutely solid. I

1294
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:06.279
rated it because just I thought it was because I

1295
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:10.880
was listened to each episode several times, and just with

1296
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:14.800
I think, just with Sulu's quote alone about about the

1297
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:18.119
problem with evil, I give it a nine point seventy five.

1298
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:23.479
And if I remember correctly, they were going to name

1299
01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:29.199
They're thinking about naming the baby Taberius, weren't they. No, No,

1300
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:30.399
we're going to name it.

1301
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:36.720
Try they were going to name it, yeah, yeah, that

1302
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:38.520
would be that would be messed up.

1303
01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:40.560
No, they were going to name it Sidebox.

1304
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:52.079
No, that's that's right, the greatest Yeah.

1305
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:58.319
Sorry, sorry, nine point.

1306
01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:03.279
All right, David, what do you think?

1307
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:09.720
Yeah, that was a very interesting episode. And again I

1308
01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:13.079
have to say good photo sound effects, because listening to

1309
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:17.199
an audible and having to use your imagination is like

1310
01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:24.319
listening to the way that Ivan started like hitting that

1311
01:22:24.399 --> 01:22:26.680
el boy, and I was like, oh my goodness, this

1312
01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:30.000
just sounds so sad, and you could actually feel the

1313
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.720
emotions of like the victim of like what he was

1314
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:36.199
going through, and I was just like, oh, man, I

1315
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:41.720
cannot imagine having to go through something like that. So yeah,

1316
01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:45.840
speaking of Ivan, I for some odd reason, I don't

1317
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:49.640
know why, because you know, he's punching out this el

1318
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.000
boy and everything. I was just like, okay, so nobody's

1319
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.159
gonna find out what he did. And then I realized, yes,

1320
01:22:56.359 --> 01:23:00.720
the telepathic they know one to another of what they're

1321
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:03.960
gonna do. And then all of a sudden, I was like, okay,

1322
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:07.680
so what kind of punishment she's gonna receive? And so

1323
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:11.039
then towards the very end, I don't know why that

1324
01:23:11.159 --> 01:23:14.680
came into my mind, but I thought of Tuvik for

1325
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:17.399
some hard reason, and I was like, so is Con

1326
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:22.399
gonna have to try and like decide how to, you know,

1327
01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:26.720
fix the situation that was going on? And then when

1328
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:29.000
that happened, I was like, so is Con gonna like

1329
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:32.479
For some reason, I don't know why, I just kept thinking,

1330
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:36.760
like the Star Trek thing that was going on like

1331
01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:40.560
they were gonna mind meld for some reason. Con and

1332
01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:44.039
I've been together, and I was just like, I just

1333
01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.960
got confused, and I was like, so it is con

1334
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:50.000
gonna turne into Tubac and kind of become like an icon.

1335
01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:53.119
So I don't know, it was just a really weird

1336
01:23:53.159 --> 01:23:54.600
thing that had going on in my head.

1337
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:55.880
I was just like, weird.

1338
01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:01.600
But anyways, aside from all the weird, wacky thing never

1339
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:05.640
going in my head. Yeah, the idea of this episode,

1340
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:08.119
this isn't technically a.

1341
01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:11.079
What do they call it a conclusion?

1342
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:15.800
I guess this isn't because when we talked last week,

1343
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:18.600
we were wondering why the alien came.

1344
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:22.920
To the planet in the first place, and then you.

1345
01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:25.119
Know, we were kind of hoping for the next episode

1346
01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:28.960
would be a lot better to explain why this was

1347
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.760
all happening, because I remember last week we were all like,

1348
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:36.239
we gave pretty low scores about last week's episode.

1349
01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:39.800
But the aliens came to the planet because they crashed.

1350
01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:45.439
Well, yeah, I understand they came there because they were

1351
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:48.079
fleeing their planet because they wanted to live in peace

1352
01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:51.079
and have a new society, you know, where they could

1353
01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:52.359
mind meld or whatever.

1354
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:56.319
They do with each other yea, peacefully. So I take

1355
01:24:56.359 --> 01:24:58.880
it that their society was violent and they were fleeing

1356
01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.479
from that violence. Maybe I touched it, you know, maybe.

1357
01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:06.399
Yeah. I was just comparing last week's episode to this

1358
01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:10.239
episode and how this episode isn't technically a conclude conclusion

1359
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:15.239
of last week's episode because we still have what is

1360
01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:18.119
it like, two more episodes after this, I think three?

1361
01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:23.680
Okay, So I mean the idea that they.

1362
01:25:25.640 --> 01:25:28.520
Con and his people are still going to have to

1363
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:33.279
go through a lot of trials, uh, just to even

1364
01:25:33.439 --> 01:25:36.079
get off that planet. Or maybe it happened while they're

1365
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:38.800
off the planet. I don't know, But to me, this

1366
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:44.359
episode didn't quite answer everything that we were talking about

1367
01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:47.479
last week. So I had a lot of mixed feelings

1368
01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:50.199
about this particular episode because I'm still a little confused

1369
01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:51.920
of why they.

1370
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:53.159
Are there in the first place.

1371
01:25:54.239 --> 01:25:57.640
So, I mean, yeah, they were fleeing from their planet

1372
01:25:57.680 --> 01:26:00.000
and everything, But to me, I was like, why particularly

1373
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.039
read this planet, you know, out of how many planets

1374
01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:04.680
were in the system, But I mean it pushed to

1375
01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:06.239
be part of the story, and I understand that. It's

1376
01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:09.079
just to me, I was just like, it's just I

1377
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:11.399
don't know, a lot of my feelings about it, But

1378
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:15.760
like I said, the sound effects were great. That was

1379
01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:17.199
really the only thing I could think of that was

1380
01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:20.279
really good in this episode. And the story was interesting,

1381
01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:25.159
and I do actually like how this audio drama is

1382
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:31.479
taking two sides of the story and the guy caught

1383
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:35.720
like this main story worth tubax Zulu and Leir and

1384
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:39.199
they're kind of listening to another story that Lear was

1385
01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:42.079
putting together, and how she got all these tapes and stuff,

1386
01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:46.319
and it actually surprised me that she ended up getting

1387
01:26:46.319 --> 01:26:51.520
the tape from what was that alien Demando. Yeah, so

1388
01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:54.600
I mean it was interesting that they're gonna probably be

1389
01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:59.720
bringing his character in somehow towards the end, I would imagine.

1390
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:03.439
But it's interesting how they're kind of like putting these

1391
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:06.920
different stories together, and it's just like you're listening through

1392
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:09.520
an audio tape. And I don't know if you guys

1393
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:12.399
just noticed, but every now and then when Lee was

1394
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:18.039
listening to tapes, it was actually like a tape con

1395
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:20.680
of con speaking and yeah, and it wi was just

1396
01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:25.760
kind of interesting how the transformation between the two stories

1397
01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:29.239
is coming together finally, and I think we're all gonna

1398
01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:33.920
probably see, of course, at the last episode of the conclusion.

1399
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:36.640
But I'm hoping that they make a season two, so

1400
01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:41.680
will she. But other than that, Yeah, to me, this episode,

1401
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:44.800
I'm still kind of mixed feelings about it. So I'm

1402
01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:47.880
gonna probably give it about a seven.

1403
01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:50.039
I think I might end.

1404
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:53.840
All right, seven, that's cool. What about you, Eric, what

1405
01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:54.319
do you think?

1406
01:27:57.399 --> 01:27:57.880
Uh?

1407
01:27:58.479 --> 01:27:59.000
Okay?

1408
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:05.279
So, I think last week when they introduced the concept

1409
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:12.359
of the aliens, I know, I sort of took you know,

1410
01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:15.720
I took a moment to think about that, And I

1411
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:20.039
think it's because I wanted this story, much like the

1412
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:25.239
the Con Ruling in Hell comic book portrays. I wanted

1413
01:28:25.239 --> 01:28:30.399
this movie, this audio drama, to be all about CON's

1414
01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:35.840
ability to kind of rise above the challenges that are

1415
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:40.319
being presented to him and like make decisions that guide

1416
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:44.640
the course of people's lives. And the introduction of the

1417
01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:52.039
aliens for me, has added a layer that I don't

1418
01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:56.319
think the story needed. Okay, So, I've always said that

1419
01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:58.319
like Ivan was of course going to be the bad guy,

1420
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.399
and I thought that Ivan would be the bad guy

1421
01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:07.279
relative to him, like challenging KHN for supremacy or challenging

1422
01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:11.960
Maguvers in some like meaningful way that then put him

1423
01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:15.720
in conflict with Khan, and maybe maybe that's still yet

1424
01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:22.199
to come, but but the introduction of the aliens here

1425
01:29:22.239 --> 01:29:26.800
has kind of added this this layer of storytelling that

1426
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:31.439
takes the focus away from Khan as a person who

1427
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:38.760
is persevering, taking care of his people, self reliant. I guess,

1428
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:41.720
which is kind of the like Jenna sa Qua that

1429
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:44.640
I've always had about Con in my head. He's, you know,

1430
01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:49.119
he's like he's an you know, he he's a DIY guy,

1431
01:29:49.319 --> 01:29:53.600
Like he's he's gonna like figure it out for himself.

1432
01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:57.560
So at any rate, I just that general kind of

1433
01:29:57.560 --> 01:29:59.720
like moving of the story in that direction. I don't

1434
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:03.359
entirely love so all of this stuff.

1435
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:03.720
I feel.

1436
01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:05.880
I feel like it's the first half of this episode

1437
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:11.039
or so is him talking to Dlmanda, the other alien,

1438
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:14.239
And you know, there's like some interesting stuff where it's

1439
01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:21.680
like Con can only understand Delmanda because Delmonda is accessing

1440
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:27.520
Cohn's brain and CON's brain is like interpreting the things

1441
01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:29.640
that are coming back in better and better ways. There's

1442
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:32.039
this cool description that they give where it's not like

1443
01:30:32.079 --> 01:30:35.079
somebody learning a language, it's like somebody learning how to

1444
01:30:35.479 --> 01:30:40.640
tell somebody else their language sort of paradigm anyway, that

1445
01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:44.359
was kind of fun. So but that that whole part

1446
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.079
of the story is just a little bit like Okay,

1447
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:48.479
oh my god, he's talking to the alien like it's

1448
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:53.239
gotta kind of wait for it to happen. The Ivan,

1449
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:58.000
like being the xenophobic like bad guy, Situation called it,

1450
01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:01.039
love it. I think it's it's in this story. We

1451
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:06.239
need that, like antagonist wild card, you know, Situation. I

1452
01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:11.439
think Ivan's doing that really well. The idea that the

1453
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:16.000
Elborians are actually building a ship for Con and his crew,

1454
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:21.800
I think is really interesting because that sets them up

1455
01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:27.279
as these super mentally powerful and yet benevolent aliens, which

1456
01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:30.119
I don't I don't know. We just we get like

1457
01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:33.840
the Caretaker and like a couple other aliens in Star Trek,

1458
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:36.199
but but there aren't a lot of aliens that we

1459
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:38.079
get that are just right from the get go, are

1460
01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:42.359
super duper benevolent and you know, people you actually want

1461
01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:45.920
to hang out with. So interesting, Like I I like

1462
01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:49.239
that part of the story. And then the conflict with

1463
01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:55.800
the future story, you know, with Tuvak and Sulu and

1464
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:59.000
Sulu's like inability to kind of move past this narrative

1465
01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.439
that he's built for himself about who Con is and

1466
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:05.359
why he's such a bad person. I do find that

1467
01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:09.720
really really interesting and a cool like development of the

1468
01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:14.800
Sulu character in a lot of ways. So so yeah,

1469
01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:17.319
I was pretty mixed on this episode, honestly, Like there

1470
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:19.560
there's some parts of it that I thought were just bad,

1471
01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:21.760
like the whole alien thing I just don't care for.

1472
01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:24.520
But then there's the stuff of the development of the

1473
01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:29.640
Sulu character and the kind of like benevolent alien thing

1474
01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:32.800
that I really like. So I guess I'll give this one.

1475
01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:37.840
This feels very average to me, So average good is

1476
01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:40.399
a seven in my world, so I'll give it a seven.

1477
01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:46.640
Seven. What about you, child, do you think.

1478
01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:50.119
I kind of agree with Eric on this one. I

1479
01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:54.199
think the alien story is a bit much. It's interesting

1480
01:32:54.239 --> 01:33:00.000
where we get the go betweens because these are telepath

1481
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:04.560
at the creatures, but they can't truly read Khan's mind

1482
01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:10.640
because CON's got a slight close mine. It's like, well,

1483
01:33:10.640 --> 01:33:14.359
I can't understand somebody who's trained to close in their mind,

1484
01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:17.439
but I can't picture somebody like Kahn being able to

1485
01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:18.399
close their mind.

1486
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:24.279
Well, Charles, that whole interchange is weird because he they're like,

1487
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:26.760
he's like, can you hear my thoughts? And they're like,

1488
01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:29.079
we can't really hear your thoughts because you have these barriers.

1489
01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:32.199
And he's like, please don't cross the barriers, and they're like, okay.

1490
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:39.960
Yeah it was dumb, but okay, they they get sense that,

1491
01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:45.000
but they couldn't sense Ivan coming up wanting to threaten

1492
01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:49.560
to attack one of theirs, which didn't quite make sense,

1493
01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:52.920
Like okay, they're this great being, but yet they can't

1494
01:33:52.920 --> 01:33:59.800
detect when even Ivan's coming around, and yet they do

1495
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:01.000
meld with.

1496
01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:02.840
Her.

1497
01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:08.920
And then it's confusing to how how she's reacting, how

1498
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:13.199
mcgivers is reacting because she's taken the acceptance, yet I'm

1499
01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:20.399
not sure exactly what side she's taking on it. The story,

1500
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:24.039
it's like, okay, them building the camps and they're trying

1501
01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:28.520
to work on expanding the expanding the area down there,

1502
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:33.359
which okay, they're down there, yet they're trying to expand

1503
01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:41.439
and they collapse a cave injuring people. That story went

1504
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:44.079
all right. It's like, okay, that's how the story is evolving.

1505
01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:52.560
But the alien part, I think just is convoluting the story.

1506
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:55.000
So I'm just kind of stop and agree with Eric.

1507
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:57.279
I was thinking the exact same thing of an average

1508
01:34:57.359 --> 01:34:58.000
of a seven.

1509
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:05.560
All right, Well, I'm kind of like I'm with THEE

1510
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:11.920
on this one about the Sulu Tubac Lear thing is fascinating. Uh,

1511
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:15.720
you know what exactly is Lear digging at? What? What

1512
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:19.720
is she hoping to to uncover or prove here that

1513
01:35:19.880 --> 01:35:23.960
hasn't been told? What? What is her trump card?

1514
01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:27.159
I mean, Jim, doesn't it seem to you like Lear.

1515
01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:29.279
I swear to god, Lear is going to end up

1516
01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:33.720
being related to mcgiver's or something. Right, there's going to

1517
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:36.399
be like some like I'm the granddaughter and I had

1518
01:35:36.439 --> 01:35:39.760
to research her to like find out the real story.

1519
01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:43.079
I'm not gonna say anything, but if I did listen

1520
01:35:43.119 --> 01:35:47.760
to the seven eight nine, and holy crap is what

1521
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:48.399
I will say.

1522
01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:50.880
Just in general, I.

1523
01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:57.239
Think that Lear happens to be I think that Lear

1524
01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:00.520
happens to be mcgivers a cousin's sister's brother and his

1525
01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:01.399
uncle's navy.

1526
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:03.479
That's what they revealed.

1527
01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:09.600
Yes exactly, we moved, Yes, twice we moved. I think

1528
01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:12.680
that whole the whole thing with with Tulac and Sulu

1529
01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:17.199
is because you know, Tubac even it wasn't a captain Sulu,

1530
01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:24.000
you wouldn't even be here. But why Sulu wants Cybo

1531
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:31.119
wants Tulac the spy on Leir? You know, well, why

1532
01:36:31.279 --> 01:36:33.720
was Sulu? I don't get that. I want to see

1533
01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:36.520
what's going on there? Why Sulu would even ask Tubac

1534
01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:39.000
to do that in the first place, Like what is

1535
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:43.079
he afraid of uncovering? Sulu was there for the whole thing,

1536
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:47.600
So you know, I'm really interested to see what that

1537
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:52.800
plays out. The aliens, I I disagree. I think the

1538
01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:58.560
aliens are a great a great addition, because Con is

1539
01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:02.479
always the superior. This case, he's not. He's out numbered,

1540
01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:06.319
he's outgunned. They could swat him like a fly. There's

1541
01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:08.600
nothing he can do about it. They can read his mind,

1542
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:11.880
they know when that when they're coming. So Con is

1543
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:15.079
kind of, you know, he's on the offensive here. He

1544
01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:19.359
he can't use violence, he can't fight his way out

1545
01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:22.279
of this one. There is no way he can defeat

1546
01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:25.479
these aliens. So now Con has to has to kind

1547
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:28.640
of learn humility. He has to learn how to be political.

1548
01:37:28.680 --> 01:37:32.119
He has to learn how to talk to Delmonico and

1549
01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:34.479
and to me. That's something CON's not used to doing.

1550
01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:38.039
He's used to getting his way and he can't. He

1551
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:41.359
can't do that in this case. So like when Mala

1552
01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:42.800
talks to him and says, well, you got to give

1553
01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:46.159
Delmonico a chance, he has to do it, what's he

1554
01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:46.880
going to do? Say?

1555
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.960
You know, he changes it every time? Yeah, no, but

1556
01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:57.399
that's that's absolutely right, Jim. Yeah, and the divers makes

1557
01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:01.960
kN a better man. And as dil CON's interactions with

1558
01:38:02.079 --> 01:38:10.840
Delmanda are being affected. But that's why we're gigging a

1559
01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:11.279
little bit.

1560
01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:13.119
But because I think first like.

1561
01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:15.199
Three times you said it, you said different things, so

1562
01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:16.079
it was really funny.

1563
01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:19.880
That's great, that's great. I want to.

1564
01:38:22.239 --> 01:38:28.680
You know, yeah.

1565
01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:30.840
Well yeah, because you know, and and Marlo is trying

1566
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:34.479
to tell Con I can't just just learn to trust

1567
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:38.560
these people. They don't have uh, sinister motives. And then

1568
01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:41.880
you know, when Delmanda reveals that, no, we're building this

1569
01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.880
ship for you, kind of makes Khan look like a schmuck.

1570
01:38:47.159 --> 01:38:51.119
And reveals and reveals that after they know that Ivan.

1571
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:55.840
Has just like that, Yeah, you guys are dicks.

1572
01:38:56.199 --> 01:38:59.760
And the reason the one I think I want to say,

1573
01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.239
the reason that one got killed what was horrible was

1574
01:39:03.279 --> 01:39:07.239
when because that they weren't believing that Ivan did it,

1575
01:39:07.319 --> 01:39:10.000
and then Almanda says, do you want to see the

1576
01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:13.119
bootprint that Ivan left on his skull?

1577
01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:16.760
It's like, oh my god, that was that was Yeah.

1578
01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:20.359
So after all of but the one was alone and

1579
01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:24.800
that's why Ivan was able to to, you know, sort

1580
01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:28.520
of ambush him and kill him because he was alone.

1581
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:30.399
So they're more powerful together.

1582
01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:40.760
These characters are kind of like the the Five Aliens

1583
01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:43.920
with the eyeballs in their heads from Battle Beyond the Stars.

1584
01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:48.159
I think they feel what each other feels and I

1585
01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:54.039
and they don't understand or comprehend violence, kind of like

1586
01:39:54.079 --> 01:40:00.720
the Telosians, because otherwise they would have known that Delmonico's

1587
01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:04.640
buddy there was in trouble and they didn't, and you

1588
01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:08.039
would think they would have sensed that, but they didn't.

1589
01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:11.680
So I'm thinking that maybe they're like the like the Telosians,

1590
01:40:11.720 --> 01:40:15.000
where hatred and violence is just something that they they

1591
01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:18.720
can't understand it, they can't comprehend it. Otherwise they would

1592
01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:21.800
have known and they could have said to that dude, yo, dude,

1593
01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:24.520
the hell out of there. You was in trouble. But they,

1594
01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:27.520
you know, they let they did, they let him did

1595
01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:31.479
they sacrifice him. You know, I don't know, I don't

1596
01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:31.840
I don't know.

1597
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:34.920
I don't think so, I don't think so, but I

1598
01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:38.079
guess we'll see in the upcoming episodes.

1599
01:40:38.239 --> 01:40:40.159
Well you don't. You don't get an opinion because you

1600
01:40:40.199 --> 01:40:41.079
already listened.

1601
01:40:40.840 --> 01:40:45.680
To the I forgot that there's only certain stuff.

1602
01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:52.000
But no, yeah, no, anyway, yeah, but uh, overall, I

1603
01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:53.000
thought that when.

1604
01:40:54.520 --> 01:41:06.840
Demando you, I'm when Darn was reading Marla's mind, you know,

1605
01:41:07.399 --> 01:41:09.920
he was like, well, you're from Starfleet and I can

1606
01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:12.119
trust you, and he was. He was reading her mind

1607
01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:15.560
a lot differently than he when he was reading CON's mind,

1608
01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:20.359
which I also found interesting because they were able to.

1609
01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:24.840
They were able to. Ivan was able to throw dead

1610
01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:26.880
dude out of his brain, you know, he was able

1611
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:29.319
to put up the barriers and force him out of

1612
01:41:29.319 --> 01:41:33.560
his brain. But when all of them mentally attacked Ivan,

1613
01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:37.319
he couldn't handle it and he was overcome. So yeah,

1614
01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:41.840
I like this one better than the last one. So

1615
01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:46.079
I'm gonna go with an eight. I think on the

1616
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:49.960
eight point three because I know that Paul loves the decimales,

1617
01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:52.439
So I'm gonna go in an eight point three. And

1618
01:41:52.479 --> 01:41:54.840
with that, I'm going to turn the mic over to Paul,

1619
01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:56.800
and we can see what Paul has to think about

1620
01:41:56.840 --> 01:42:02.760
this whole crooked bag of snakes. Yeah, it was really good,

1621
01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:05.680
and we.

1622
01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:09.600
Can't hear You're muted there, Paul.

1623
01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:14.239
Sorry, this thing keeps trying to disconnect me again. Expected

1624
01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:16.079
how's that right now?

1625
01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:17.640
I still cannot hear you.

1626
01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:20.479
Not sure why disconnecting.

1627
01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:34.000
His mouth is moving, yeah, in dance. Yeah. Language. That's

1628
01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:38.479
funny because we heard Paul perfect I know, yeah.

1629
01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:48.359
Yeah, uh yeah. Technological stuff. So let's uh, Paul, give

1630
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:51.600
us a number with your hands, of your of your

1631
01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:54.560
vote like rating for this.

1632
01:42:55.760 --> 01:42:57.720
He posted it as a seven.

1633
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:02.680
Yeah plus seven, okay, seven, got it.

1634
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:06.960
Screening is telling me that you're muted, but I can't

1635
01:43:07.079 --> 01:43:07.640
un mute you.

1636
01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:11.239
Well, he's he's muted now, but when he was anyway,

1637
01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:14.840
all the seven seven? Let's move on?

1638
01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:15.560
What about now?

1639
01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:16.680
Better?

1640
01:43:17.159 --> 01:43:18.760
All right? So what do you think, Charles? What's the

1641
01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:25.359
total now now for all the tex sports? Right down

1642
01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:25.880
a line?

1643
01:43:28.720 --> 01:43:36.600
Okay and Charles, alright, I'm here.

1644
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:41.680
Just a little bit over last week. Last week with

1645
01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:44.560
a seven point two, we got a seven point seven

1646
01:43:44.720 --> 01:43:45.399
this week.

1647
01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:51.439
Seven point seven, but I rated it's so high.

1648
01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:54.840
But that was just yeah, which I don't know it

1649
01:43:54.920 --> 01:43:57.399
is just that that quote that or that from what

1650
01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:01.279
Sulu said, I don't know. That just like really really

1651
01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:03.560
impacted me so much so that I wrote it down

1652
01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:06.239
and I want to put it on my bullets on board.

1653
01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:10.159
For a little energy vampoints.

1654
01:44:10.479 --> 01:44:11.800
Uh huh. That's right.

1655
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:17.920
In a good way. That's right, all right, guys. So

1656
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:22.079
now it's time for stonich like birthdays. You know what

1657
01:44:22.119 --> 01:44:42.640
that means. That means this That was not a song,

1658
01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:46.079
all right, guys. Were usually start off our birthdays by

1659
01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:49.359
remembering those members of the sci fi family who, sadly enough,

1660
01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:52.359
are no longer with us, and that we look to

1661
01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:53.960
Eric Jim.

1662
01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:58.920
Today we remember David Ogden Steers, a veteran actor who

1663
01:44:58.920 --> 01:45:04.279
played Timmiston, of course, the Kaylon who became involved with

1664
01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:08.560
wax On a Troy in Star Trek Next Generation's fourth

1665
01:45:08.600 --> 01:45:13.039
season episode Half a Life. But Steers is best known,

1666
01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:16.279
of course, for his role as Major Charles Emerson Winchester,

1667
01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:21.119
the third on the highly successful television series Mash from

1668
01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:24.119
nineteen seventy seven through nineteen eighty three, for which he

1669
01:45:24.199 --> 01:45:29.479
received two Emmy nominations. Happy birthday to David Ogden Steers.

1670
01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:34.199
Happy birthday to Ray Walston, who played, of course Boothby

1671
01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:38.159
in the Next Generation's fifth season episode The First Duty,

1672
01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:43.079
and Voyagers fifth season episodes The Fight and in the Flesh.

1673
01:45:43.119 --> 01:45:46.239
He was perhaps best known for his role as Uncle

1674
01:45:46.319 --> 01:45:51.000
Martin in the Martin the Martian series in the nineteen

1675
01:45:51.119 --> 01:45:54.520
sixties or My Favorite Martian, That, of course was the

1676
01:45:54.560 --> 01:45:57.600
name of that series. Also best known, of course, for

1677
01:45:57.680 --> 01:46:00.760
his Tony Award winning performance in the broad Way production

1678
01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:05.039
of Damn Yankees. And he's won a bunch of Emmys too.

1679
01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:07.439
I mean, this guy is like super duper talented. You

1680
01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:10.119
should go check him out. Ray Walston lost all the

1681
01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:14.079
way back in twenty one, twenty four years ago, booth Be.

1682
01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:18.319
Happy birthday to you, sir. We miss you. Happy birthday

1683
01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:22.439
as well to Barbara Bosson, the film and television actress

1684
01:46:22.439 --> 01:46:25.800
who appeared as Rowana in The Deep Space nine second

1685
01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:30.399
season episode Rivals, best known for her performance on Hill

1686
01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:36.439
Street Blues, for which she received five Emmy nominations for

1687
01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:42.199
playing Captain Frank Farrillo's daughter excuse me not daughter ex wife.

1688
01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:46.680
Happy birthday to Barbara Boston. Happy birthday as well to

1689
01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:51.039
Errol Blanton, the actor who played Chief security guard Dickerson

1690
01:46:51.119 --> 01:46:54.960
in the TOS third season episode The Savage Curtain. Tons

1691
01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:58.439
of guest appearances in movies and television shows along the

1692
01:46:58.439 --> 01:47:04.399
way for Errol guest starring in several films and television

1693
01:47:04.399 --> 01:47:07.920
shows like Adam twelve, Starski and Hutch, Matt Locke, Beverly

1694
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:10.319
Hills nine O two one zero, and had a reoccurring

1695
01:47:10.399 --> 01:47:13.960
role as Bob and That's Live from two thousand and

1696
01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:17.680
one to two thousand and two. Happy birthday to Aero Blynton.

1697
01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:23.439
Happy birthday as well to Michael joel Zaslow, the actor

1698
01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:26.760
who appeared as Darnell in the TOS first season episodes

1699
01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:30.920
The Man Trapped, and then he later played Jordan in

1700
01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:35.359
the second season episode I Mud. He's actually our first

1701
01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:39.479
death that we ever see in Star Trek. Yeah, that's right.

1702
01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:42.079
He's also the first one that Leonard McCoy ever said.

1703
01:47:42.520 --> 01:47:46.640
He's dead, Jim. So there you go. There's your Star

1704
01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:50.920
Trek trivia for today. Darnell first got to die, first

1705
01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:53.920
got to be He's dead, Jim. Happy birthday to Michael

1706
01:47:54.119 --> 01:47:58.560
joel Zaslow. Happy birthday as well to Michael Champion, the

1707
01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:02.680
actor who Portrayeds in the Next Generation third season episode

1708
01:48:02.680 --> 01:48:06.920
Captain's Holiday, best remembered for his supporting role as Home

1709
01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:12.079
in the nineteen ninety science fiction film Total Recall. Other

1710
01:48:12.159 --> 01:48:17.359
Things on Michael's to do list not to do list

1711
01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:21.720
his list of things in which he's acted, but we

1712
01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:23.640
lost him back in twenty twenty one at the age

1713
01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:26.279
of seventy four years old. Happy birthday to Michael Champion.

1714
01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:30.359
Happy birthday as well to Pete Kellett, the actor and

1715
01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:34.640
stuntman who appeared in three episodes of TOS, including Mirror Mirror,

1716
01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:39.640
Spock's Brain, and Day of the Dove. Did a lot

1717
01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:41.640
of stunt work along the way. You should go check

1718
01:48:41.680 --> 01:48:44.239
him out, like we're talking gun smoke Man from Uncle,

1719
01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:49.680
Mission Impossible, et cetera. Pete Kelle, Happy birthday to you,

1720
01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:53.520
lost back in nineteen eighty two. Happy birthday as well

1721
01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:56.880
to Ian Wolfe, The actor who played Septimus in the

1722
01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:01.640
original series episode second season second Good season episode Bread

1723
01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:06.399
and Circuses, also played Mister Ataz as well as the

1724
01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:11.439
replicas in the third season episode All Are Yesterday's. He

1725
01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:15.520
was the last surviving Star Trek actor to have been

1726
01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:18.640
born in the nineteenth century. We lost him all the

1727
01:49:18.680 --> 01:49:21.359
way back in nineteen ninety two at ninety five years old.

1728
01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:26.760
Happy birthday to Ian Wolfe. Happy birthday to Jan Shootan,

1729
01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:30.159
who was the actress who played Lieutenant Mirror Romayne in

1730
01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:34.520
the TS third season episode The Lights of Zatar. While

1731
01:49:34.520 --> 01:49:37.640
aboard the Enterprise, she became romantically involved, of course, with

1732
01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:41.119
Montgomery Scott and that guy. He's a little bit of

1733
01:49:41.159 --> 01:49:43.520
a player on the side. You don't know it, but

1734
01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:45.640
like if you pay attention, there's a little bit of

1735
01:49:45.640 --> 01:49:48.760
Scotti live in there. Happy birthday to Jan shoot Tan.

1736
01:49:49.800 --> 01:49:52.079
And last but not least, we're gonna go away from

1737
01:49:52.119 --> 01:49:54.319
Star Trek this week and we're gonna say Happy birthday

1738
01:49:54.399 --> 01:49:58.520
to the great John Key Andy. Unfortunately we lost him

1739
01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:01.119
way too early at only four four years old. But

1740
01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:05.359
he was one of Canada's greatest and funniest character actors

1741
01:50:05.359 --> 01:50:08.720
of all time. His well known roles as big hearted

1742
01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:13.520
buffoons earned him classic appearances in Uncle Buck, Planes, trains,

1743
01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:18.000
and automobiles. You know, he had some dry spells along

1744
01:50:18.039 --> 01:50:21.039
the way, but he had this kind of reputation for

1745
01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:26.079
his quirky humor and his uncanny imitations of others. The

1746
01:50:26.119 --> 01:50:28.239
thing that kind of got him jump started a little

1747
01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:31.039
bit was being in the failed movie nineteen forty one,

1748
01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:34.479
but then after that he was actually in The Blues

1749
01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:39.079
Brothers and people actually forget that sometimes that along with

1750
01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:43.560
dan Ackroyd, he was in that movie. He of course

1751
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:46.520
played the parole officer who was part of the chase

1752
01:50:46.560 --> 01:50:50.279
after Jake and Elwood kind of get away for the

1753
01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:54.520
first time. After that era, Man, you're talking, he's all

1754
01:50:54.520 --> 01:50:59.439
over the place, Stripes, Splash, Brewsters, millions. We know him

1755
01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:02.640
of course as Barf the Mog and mel Brooks's comedy

1756
01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:07.199
space Balls from nineteen eighty seven, but this guy was

1757
01:51:07.239 --> 01:51:09.279
all over the place back in the late eighties and

1758
01:51:09.359 --> 01:51:11.880
early nineties. And we do miss John Candy. He was

1759
01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:15.039
lost way too early from a heart attack. I remember

1760
01:51:15.039 --> 01:51:20.359
the day he died. Yeah, happy birthday to John Candy.

1761
01:51:20.640 --> 01:51:23.239
And it's too bad we won't get Barf and Spaceballs too,

1762
01:51:23.359 --> 01:51:26.399
but maybe they'll give him a little omamaeft to see.

1763
01:51:26.520 --> 01:51:29.159
Yep, and real quick fun fact in he was in

1764
01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:32.520
home alone when they're riding in the van and he's

1765
01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:36.800
the Poka guy that oh yeah, and that whole scene

1766
01:51:36.880 --> 01:51:41.119
everything that he said was one hundred percent improvised and

1767
01:51:41.159 --> 01:51:42.359
it's hilarious.

1768
01:51:43.319 --> 01:51:44.319
So amazing.

1769
01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:50.439
Yep, cool. All right, Well that does it for our remembrances,

1770
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:54.560
so I will pass the flaming birthday candle over to Charles.

1771
01:51:54.920 --> 01:51:57.960
Oh thank you, Eric, I got a few but a

1772
01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:02.319
couple of wood once in here. Happy birthday, John Kegan Delancey,

1773
01:52:03.319 --> 01:52:08.640
who played Or in Voyagers seventh season episode Q two.

1774
01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:15.159
He has a son of John Delancey and Marine Miss Seamen.

1775
01:52:17.439 --> 01:52:22.279
Heavy birthday. Erica Flores, actress to play Marissa Flores in

1776
01:52:22.359 --> 01:52:29.720
teng's fifth season episode Disaster. One of our child actresses.

1777
01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:35.600
Hi birthday to Karen Hansel, actress had played Admiral Bracken

1778
01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:41.760
in TG's fifth season episode episode Unification and Dila in

1779
01:52:41.840 --> 01:52:47.439
DS nine second season episode Cardassians. Of course we always

1780
01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:50.159
ask Eric the obvious question, which I think he just

1781
01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:57.159
disappeared if we had an evil admiral or not. Happy

1782
01:52:57.199 --> 01:53:04.439
birthday too, Robertxworth from Houston, Texas, who played Letton in

1783
01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:08.479
DAS nine it's four season episode home Front and Paradise

1784
01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:14.319
Paradise Lost and the Last and Enterprises four season episode

1785
01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:22.000
The Foes Awakening, and Keir schar Hedy Bertha to Ursula Bryant,

1786
01:53:22.680 --> 01:53:26.560
actress who played Captain Tira Scott in TG's first season

1787
01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:33.279
episode Conspiracy and the Big One on My List. Though

1788
01:53:33.359 --> 01:53:37.319
not a sci fi, it's still a sci fi. His

1789
01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:41.199
Happy Birthday to Armand Sherman, best known in the Stora

1790
01:53:41.239 --> 01:53:45.279
Trek universe for his betrayal as Quark on Deep Space Nine.

1791
01:53:46.159 --> 01:53:49.800
He appeared as Quirk as Deep Space nine, TG, Voyager,

1792
01:53:50.359 --> 01:53:54.680
and Lower Decks. He portrayed the first Ferengi in Stir

1793
01:53:54.760 --> 01:54:02.479
Trek franchise in TG's episode The Last Outpost. So Arman

1794
01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:05.840
has been involved with Star Trek for a whiles of

1795
01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:08.920
Farrankie and one of the great Farankis that are in there.

1796
01:54:11.039 --> 01:54:12.880
It's fun to see him the cave to go on

1797
01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:19.880
stage and makeup, but great to see he's still active

1798
01:54:20.960 --> 01:54:26.439
and the conventions and such. With that, I will pass

1799
01:54:26.479 --> 01:54:27.239
it over to Paul.

1800
01:54:29.439 --> 01:54:32.399
Thank you, Charles. How's this audio working? Friends?

1801
01:54:33.359 --> 01:54:36.479
Sounds gadd okay, great, it looks like we're back. Let's

1802
01:54:36.520 --> 01:54:40.279
charge ahead. Happy Birthday goes out to Billy Simpson, actor

1803
01:54:40.319 --> 01:54:44.399
who played the voice of young Spock in the animated

1804
01:54:44.439 --> 01:54:49.199
series first season episode Yesteryear, easily one of the best

1805
01:54:49.279 --> 01:54:53.239
episodes of Star Trek ever. In any spoke of the

1806
01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:56.960
franchise that you care to name. Yesteryear is amazing episode

1807
01:54:57.720 --> 01:55:01.199
written by DC Fontaine's really really great and if you've

1808
01:55:01.239 --> 01:55:03.600
never seen it, you're really missing out. And Billy Simpson

1809
01:55:04.079 --> 01:55:07.079
played young Spock in that episode. We'll just leave it

1810
01:55:07.119 --> 01:55:09.520
at that in case you haven't seen it. Happy Birthday

1811
01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:12.640
to Helene Udi, actress who played Pale in The Deep

1812
01:55:12.640 --> 01:55:18.199
Space nine second season episode Rules of Acquisition. Happeny birthday

1813
01:55:18.239 --> 01:55:24.039
goes out. Happy Happy Birthday, Happeny Birthday everybody. Happy birthday

1814
01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:29.000
to Stephanie Scherzowski, who played Lieutenant Deveen in the third

1815
01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:35.640
season episode of Star Trek Picard. Happy birthday to missus

1816
01:55:35.720 --> 01:55:40.479
Steven Spielberg. Kate Capshaw, retired American actress.

1817
01:55:40.479 --> 01:55:42.359
Because when you're married to a guy is which is

1818
01:55:42.399 --> 01:55:44.880
Steven Spielberg, do you really need to have her work again?

1819
01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.800
I think not, but we of course always think of

1820
01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:50.479
her as her role as Willie Scott in Indiana Jones

1821
01:55:50.479 --> 01:55:53.039
and The Temple of Doom, where they ended up meeting

1822
01:55:53.319 --> 01:55:56.800
and eventually getting married. So there you go. Kate Capshaw,

1823
01:55:56.920 --> 01:56:02.800
pretty awesome forever siated with Indiana Jones. Happy birthday to

1824
01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:06.800
Irene Sue, who played Mary Kim and Voyagers third and

1825
01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:11.880
seventh season Episode's Favorite Son and author author who went

1826
01:56:11.960 --> 01:56:17.920
up the list. Big Happy birthday to a very luminous performer,

1827
01:56:18.399 --> 01:56:23.119
Pompka Johnson Okay, a Dutch actress who played Kamala in

1828
01:56:23.279 --> 01:56:27.840
the fifth season Next Generation episode The Perfect Mate, one

1829
01:56:27.920 --> 01:56:30.640
of her very first roles. Of course, she ended up

1830
01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:35.359
breaking through and becoming a really huge sensation later on.

1831
01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:41.479
She had the main antagonist role in the very first

1832
01:56:41.520 --> 01:56:46.239
Pierce Brosnan outing as James Bond GoldenEye, where she was

1833
01:56:46.359 --> 01:56:48.840
made of striking and President there, and then went on

1834
01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:52.359
to play Jeene Gray in the X Men films. So really, really,

1835
01:56:52.920 --> 01:56:56.039
you know, terrific performer. I wish we saw more of her,

1836
01:56:56.119 --> 01:57:00.399
but Bompkason is just great. And Happy birtha also to

1837
01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:05.119
Carolyn Seymour, British actress who appeared in a Contagion episode

1838
01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:10.399
of Next Gen as Taris, as Marasti Gale and Next

1839
01:57:10.399 --> 01:57:15.439
Generation's First Contact and Toreth in episode's Face of the Enemy,

1840
01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:20.680
and then over on Voyager Missus Templeton in Cathexus and

1841
01:57:20.800 --> 01:57:23.840
Persistence of Vision. So that's a lot of work for

1842
01:57:23.920 --> 01:57:28.199
one person across many different aspects of the star Trek universe,

1843
01:57:28.479 --> 01:57:33.039
very very cool, and getting into the most immediate.

1844
01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:36.399
She was in Space nineteen ninety nine as well.

1845
01:57:37.119 --> 01:57:41.479
Was she really well? I there, Yeah, I did not

1846
01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:46.399
realize that. That's fantastic, so very cool, and then getting

1847
01:57:46.399 --> 01:57:49.119
to the mother of current aspects of Star Trek let's

1848
01:57:49.159 --> 01:57:53.960
move over there to Strange New Worlds and Star Trek

1849
01:57:53.960 --> 01:57:58.880
Discovery because we're here to celebrate Rebecca Romaine Okay, actress

1850
01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:02.479
and former model who played is Una Chin Riley. First

1851
01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:05.960
appearing in Star Trek Discovery second season episodes in Obol

1852
01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:11.159
for Sharon and Such Sweet Sorrow one and two, the character,

1853
01:58:11.199 --> 01:58:15.920
along with Anson Mounts Christopher Pike, became so popular, and

1854
01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:18.520
going back to what we were talking about earlier, fan

1855
01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:23.159
response to seeing these legendary, iconic classic characters was so

1856
01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:27.800
strong that they basically demanded that it be its own

1857
01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:31.119
prequel television series, which was what gave us Strange New

1858
01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:36.239
Worlds Today, where she reprised her role in that show

1859
01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:39.640
and in Short Trek episodes Q and A and asked

1860
01:58:39.680 --> 01:58:42.319
to not as well as being a regular series regular,

1861
01:58:42.920 --> 01:58:46.279
a regular series regular that's not repetitive at all on

1862
01:58:46.439 --> 01:58:49.319
Strange New Worlds, where we still will delight in her

1863
01:58:49.479 --> 01:58:52.920
for still more seasons. And of course we all know

1864
01:58:53.039 --> 01:58:58.600
that Una Chin Riley's recruiting poster Hanks prominently yet discreetly

1865
01:58:59.119 --> 01:59:05.039
in the insight of Brad Boimler's locker yep, wherever he may.

1866
01:59:03.720 --> 01:59:06.520
And where and of course her real life husband Terry

1867
01:59:06.520 --> 01:59:10.159
O'Connell voice's ransom.

1868
01:59:10.439 --> 01:59:14.279
Yes, yes, that is also true. So excellent, excellent, and

1869
01:59:14.319 --> 01:59:15.920
that's what I've got. So let's pass it over to

1870
01:59:16.000 --> 01:59:19.159
Uncle Jim because I know the sand is dripping out

1871
01:59:19.159 --> 01:59:21.439
of this hour glasses with great taste.

1872
01:59:22.399 --> 01:59:26.119
Thank you so much, Paul. I usually do klingons, but

1873
01:59:26.159 --> 01:59:28.840
I don't have any, although a few of these people

1874
01:59:28.880 --> 01:59:32.079
could very well be a klingon and kick your ass.

1875
01:59:32.399 --> 01:59:37.439
We want to say happy birthday to Dolph Lundgren. He

1876
01:59:37.520 --> 01:59:41.079
portrayed he Man in the nineteen eighty six Masters of

1877
01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:44.000
the Universe. He's a Swedish American actor, but I think

1878
01:59:44.000 --> 01:59:47.840
he's best known as Ivan Drago in Rocky for And

1879
01:59:47.960 --> 01:59:51.159
if you guys haven't seen Masters of the Universe, you

1880
01:59:51.199 --> 01:59:54.600
know who's in it. Tom Parris from Star Trek Voyager

1881
01:59:55.000 --> 01:59:59.800
and Courtney Cox is his girlfriend. It's cheesy, it's a

1882
02:00:01.680 --> 02:00:06.560
it's fun okay, So check out Masters of the Universe.

1883
02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:09.439
If you haven't, I don't. It's it's right up there

1884
02:00:09.760 --> 02:00:15.239
with Battle Beyond the Stars, easy fun eighties movie. Check

1885
02:00:15.279 --> 02:00:18.920
it out. We also want to say happy birthday to

1886
02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:22.640
Eric Menyik. He played The Traveler and the TNG first

1887
02:00:22.680 --> 02:00:25.760
and fourth season episodes where No Man Has Gone Before

1888
02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:29.439
Remember Me and Journeys, and he reprised his role and

1889
02:00:29.520 --> 02:00:34.760
starts a prodigy episode Devour of All Things Part one,

1890
02:00:35.359 --> 02:00:40.319
Eric Menyak, The Traveler, Happy Birthday, and the last one

1891
02:00:40.399 --> 02:00:45.359
on My List. Robert Patrick Junior best known for the

1892
02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:49.880
films such as Terminator two, Judgment Day as the main antagonist,

1893
02:00:49.920 --> 02:00:53.359
The T one thousand, and Fire in the Sky, but

1894
02:00:53.439 --> 02:00:56.399
he might be best known in the long running part as

1895
02:00:56.880 --> 02:01:00.840
Agent John Doggett in The X Files. I gotta say

1896
02:01:01.079 --> 02:01:04.800
I met him at a convention. He's he's great, He's

1897
02:01:04.840 --> 02:01:09.159
funny as hell. He uh actually has a motorcycle shop.

1898
02:01:09.199 --> 02:01:10.720
He self. Harvey Davis is.

1899
02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:15.720
Yeah. Check him out on Peacemaker. He's got a recurring

1900
02:01:15.800 --> 02:01:18.880
role on Peacemaker. He is hilarious and scary.

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He is you would know it from the roles that

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he plays. But he's funny, and I love him in

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the X five really do too, does a great job.

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It's a great great actor around and that my friend

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wraps up our star Trek birthdays for this week and

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wraps up our show. Although although I do, okay, we're

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gonna go over just a little bit because because David

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puts so much work into this next this next clip,

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I definitely Eric, you gotta do our news story here right,

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all right, throw it up there, David, all your hard

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work here we go, take it away nice, all right?

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Could doctor who come to Paramount Plus? Doctor whose relationship

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with Disney is officially dead. While the studio confirmed when

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it will return with a new episode, there are still

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questions to be answered about its future. The BBC will

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need to will need a new co producer if it

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wants to maintain the quality it has had in the

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last latest seasons, and one BBC Studio executive thinks Paramount

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Plus is an ideal partner to bring this show on.

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BBC Studios executive Piers Wegner pointed out that other streamers

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may still be interested and name checked Paramount Plus specifically

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saying I could make a case for any streamer wanting

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to create a foothold in the world with a pre

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existing fan base. If I'm Paramount right now, I'm losing

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Taylor Sheridan in twenty twenty nine, and so I am

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thinking about IP what else can I buy for my streamer.

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They must be putting their heads together. Taylor Sheridan leaving

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with all of his upcoming Yellowstone spin offs could be

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just what Doctor Who needs to make this a more

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attractive offer for Paramount. Wegner is right that it would

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be beneficial for the streamer to acquire an existing fan

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base and gain viewership that, while maybe not attractive to Disney,

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may help a streamer with a smaller subscriber base. Doctor

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Who and Star Trek have collaborated in comics before, but

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never on television. Well, this says never, but we all

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know that we saw Tartis. It's to the enterprise, right

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that said? The Doctor implied in a recent session a

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season that Starfleet existed in their universe, and Strange New

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Worlds has made several nods to The Doctor in season three.

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There we Go. Crossover between Doctor Who and Star Trek

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is a no brainer win for sci fi fans, and

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if Paramount decides to acquire the rights, to the British

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television series, it may help better serve its subscribers base

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of fans. After all, there aren't a lot of upcoming

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Trek shows on the horizon, so having another series ready

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to go wouldn't be a bad idea. I think this

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would be really fun right now. Obviously, like the whole

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mixture of Doctor Who and Disney has always been a

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little bit weird. You can watch all of the pre

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and Shooty Gatwa Doctor Who's that aren't classic Doctor Who's

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on HBO Max right now. I think you have to

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go to britt Box or something like that if you

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want to watch the classic stuff. But I actually think

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Paramount Plus would be a pretty good fit. And if

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they could get the entire catalog all the way from

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classic through current, I think that would be awesome.

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So I'm gonna say, Eric, h imagine Paramount Imagine imagine

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Paramount Plus getting the classic two of the biggest classic

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sci fi series is ever done. Because start Trek and

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Doctor Who are the longest running of any series concurrently,

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and having them both the same platform that would be something.

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Yep yea and maybe maybe Pellya could show up on

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Doctor Who. Since the dot so I just wanted to

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squeeze that story in because David worked real hard to

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put together that video, and I didn't want all of

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his hard work to go. That's why we went over

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all right, Well, guys, that wraps up our podcast for

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this week. Next week we're going to be talking about

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the next episode, which has already seen of I listen to.

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I'm sorry of con the audio draw. I mean, most

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excellent host Uncle Jim saying, everybody please say safe, you

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good to each other, and thank you so much to

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Paul for hanging out and trek talking with us.

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Thank you so much, Paul, good times, Thanks everybody, and of.

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Course, thank you so much to David for all the

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hard work you do putting together all of our awesome graphics.

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Thank you, David.

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You're welcome. It's been a lot of fun.

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And thank you so much to be hanging out and

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trek talking with us as well. Thank you, be sorry.

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Thank you so much to Eric for hanging out and

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chilling with us as well.

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Thank you Eric, absolutely love you guys.

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And thank you so much to Chup for hanging out

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with well.

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Thank you so much, Traditional Bolt and salute of course

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paulways for it all.

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Thank you so much. Guys, make sure you head over

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to Talking and click on the little green mic. And

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if you have a suggestion for a show we want

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to make a comment, please leave it there. We'll play

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it on the very next podcast. I promise you that.

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And with that being said, hailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, good, live, long,

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and prosper.

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All stags. I'm ready for departure, sir.

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Some problem, RCA.

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I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way emissions will go, sir.

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I don't no.

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Number one, I'm sure most will be much more interesting.

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Let's see what's out there.

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The game

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And