Sept. 8, 2025

Episode 652- SNW "Four-and-a-Half Vulcans" Discussion

Episode 652- SNW "Four-and-a-Half Vulcans" Discussion
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In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the cohosts engage with their audience through fan shout-outs, polls, and lively discussions about the latest Star Trek episodes. They explore themes from the show, share personal anecdotes, and participate in trivia segments, all while fostering a sense of community among Star Trek fans. The conversation is filled with humor, insights, and a deep appreciation for the Star Trek universe. In this episode, the hosts discuss fan reactions to the Star Trek episode 'Four and a Half Vulcans,' providing a range of ratings and opinions. They delve into the episode's humor, character development, and overall storytelling, with some hosts expressing disappointment while others found enjoyment. The conversation also touches on Star Trek birthdays and news, including the recent Hugo Award win for 'Star Trek Lower Decks.' HIT IT!
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Let's talk about me Riverside Live. There we go.

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Continue with the operation you may find and ready and

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progers don't through.

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Prison clone Wars, James Holden, Tweaky, John Coney against Yankee.

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We talk about the series.

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You can join us.

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Talk about the series Toweries.

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Well, good evening, Trekkies and trek Is around the Globe.

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It's Thursday, September fourth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode

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six hundred and fifty two of Track Talking and Beyond.

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I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast.

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I want to let you guys know that you can

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find all of our shows at trek talkin dot com.

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And while you're there, you can find a link to

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our Patreon page. For only two dollars, you can help

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support this podcast. Please check it out if you can

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on tonight's show, we're going to be talking about the

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strange New World's episode four and a half Vulcans. It's

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gonna be intriguing, to say the least. We also have

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our Fans shout Out, so that's where we thank fans

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around the globe just like you for listening to this show.

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So if you found an emoji from Uncle Jim next

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to your name, if you found a heart, then you're

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gonna be mentioned in a fans shout out. We also

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have our Star Trek polls, Dug the Vulcan and Pike

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helps her creature youthanize itself. I wonder what our fans

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have to say about that, and what actor do you

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share a Star Trek birthday wist you can find out

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tonight and what's going around around Star Trek universe. We

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have a Shatner says what, and we have XO six

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strikes again and Lower Decks wins. But before I go

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too far, I'd like to go around and introduce my

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awesome Treks first, you guys, We'll start off with Paul

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the Toy guy. He's out in Portland. How you doing tonight, Paul.

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Uncle Jim, I'm doing well.

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Oh Yo, I'm living the dream. Before the podcast, we

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were talking about close Encounter the third kind. Well, I

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had the great pleasure of seeing Jaws at the theater

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over the weekend, and I gotta.

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Tell you close kind of the third kind Richard. Yeah,

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sometimes I'm following where he was.

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Going, and I gotta tell you Jaws in the movie theater.

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I've seen it on TV a goajillion times. I never

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saw it in the theater. Only way to see the movie, absolutely,

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only way to see the movie. Phenomenal. And I also

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want to say happy birth or happy anniversary to my

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awesome wife Karen today.

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We've been married for thirty three years.

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Happy anniversary, actually forty three because we dated for ten

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years before we got married.

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Uh.

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And she's such an awesome.

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Wife that for our anniversary we are going to the

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Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown tomorrow.

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So I'm like, Jim, how.

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Old were you when you met? How old were you

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guys when you met? High school?

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What?

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Yeah, I was fifteen, she was fourteen?

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Wow, no kidding. So I just wanted to ten years.

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I'm trying to map this out, so ten years.

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And then it's complicated.

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What'd you say thirty eight years you'll be married? Like

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whatever is it? Say three thirty three, three thirty three

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like on the bottle of rolling rock. Okay, I got

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thirty three three. I send out a muzzlesoulations.

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To my wife, So that's cool. And before we digressed

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too much, I also want to say welcome to the

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podcast to my miracle worker who's also from Portland.

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David. Welcome to the show, David.

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What's going on? That is a catchy song, isn't it.

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We're going to have some fun for sure. And I'd

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also like to welcome V to the show. She is

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not from Portland. She is from Virginia. Welcome to the show. V.

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Hi.

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I am. If I seem a little punchy, it's because

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I am because for the last several days I've been

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working pretty much NonStop to get myself ready for my

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first big con where I'm actually staying the night. I

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know I don't get out much, but it's the one

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in New Jersey and with all Star Trek people, and

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so I'm very excited. But I will try to. I'll

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take lots of pictures and maybe do some videos or something.

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I don't know.

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We'll see I don't know if they if you make

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videos there, I don't know if like some security guy

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tackles you or what, or if you're allowed to I

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don't know.

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John de Lindsay will turn you into a dog.

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Okay, all right, and we expect.

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The full report about the convention and your experiences too on.

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The next I don't have any business cards to hand out. Thanks, Yeah,

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I got their addresses, will mail them.

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Well.

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We also have with us Charles. Charles is not from

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Portland either. Charles is from Las Vegas. How you doing tonight, Charles.

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I'm doing good. I need to wake this crowd's going.

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I'd better bring out that big larpa.

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That's Charles. The show is barely started, and Charles has

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already rewritten Cannon. I mean, it's just we we it's

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got the bowels are flying large already.

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You know, has got a big larpa.

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Might as well have one myself.

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He's right.

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The way.

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There's five bowels, plus if you count, why there's six.

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But good lord, let's stick with the ones that were

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assigned it.

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Burn I got.

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Everybody wants to touch my batlet when I go to

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an even Eric, so I thought it was a batlet.

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I don't know what that was that he was caring,

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but he was rocking master thing.

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Yeah he was. And he had the hair to match

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it too.

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Oh my god, the hair was even more. That was

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That was like epic.

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We're getting into I get out of the today, one

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of those.

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I'm like running on fumes for like two hours sleep.

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So and we're gonna we're gonna swing back from Vegas

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and we're gonna swing back to Portland and we're gonna say,

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welcome to Eric to the podcast.

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How you doing tonight?

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Eric?

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I am doing pretty darn good. I will say that

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I feel like Paul's most excellent, most excellent performance.

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It was.

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It was fantastic. Wait do it again? Do it again?

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The one again? Amic? What do you mean.

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It is?

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I love it.

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If you need it, if you if you need something,

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the problem, I can make it go with me. You

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know that's what you want?

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Why does why does hearing you speak like that? We

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want to break some knee caps?

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I don't know.

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I want to.

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I want to say leave the leaven.

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I like to.

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Which ill?

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What which cons are well?

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Which con are you going to?

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It's the star Trek New Jersey it's by Creation Entertainment,

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the people that never contacted Uncle Jim back because we

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would have gladly've done a live live podcast there.

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But oh well, well you know.

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Eric will tell you my Jim is on the Creations list,

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so you know they have they.

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Have a definitely, well I definitely I will.

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I will accept.

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You know, I'll contact you all on h on.

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The private message, get.

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Some well money needed to how.

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To approach how to approach the stars about the podcast

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without being a weirdo?

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Saturday night, Uncle Jim in New Jersey, I have order

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in jail.

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Yeah, that party, that party that they had with Tim

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Russ's band just got totally out of control.

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What can't wait to hear what happens?

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Yeah, chat, I might say what I'll have to if

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I have a chance, I'll tell them about it.

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Well, see if he got my email about how wonderful

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Star Trek five is and what a great director he

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is and how awesome he is, and you know, yeah,

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to be in his book there.

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You go, Yeah, yep, I'll try.

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All right, Well, guys, are we ready to dive in

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and get started?

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All right? So you guys visit us on.

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Our Facebook page at truck talking and beyond Hei. Right

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to the top of the page you see the live

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long and prosper saying where are you from? Tell us

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where you're from, and leave lots of emojis because that

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gets my attention. And if you see a heart next

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to your name from your truly uncle Jim, that means

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you're going to be featured on a future fan shout

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out just like these like fans, take it away, Eric.

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All right, our first fan shout out this week goes

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out to Alejandro Aracio la Vena, who's saying hello to

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us from Buenos Aires in Argentina. Sounds like a pretty

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cool place. Never been there myself, but would love to go. Alejandro,

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thank you so much for saying hello to us this

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week from that amazing country just a little south from

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where we are. Also saying hello this week to Christopher

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Douglas Warrington, originally born in Manchester, then lived in Stockport, England,

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United Kingdom, but now living in the Sierra Sour de

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de Hen of Andalusia in Spain. And I will tell

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you that Christopher hit us with not only an English

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flag and not only a Union jack, but also a

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beautiful Spanish flag. So those three emojis I'm positive are

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what got Jim's attention. You are a smart man, Christopher,

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that's how you go. So thank you for listening to

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our podcast. Hello and welcome also to Graham Lawton from Dorset, Dorset, Dorset, Dorset, England.

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My English pronunciation ain't so good, so Raam Lawton, thank

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you for enjoying our company. Lord knows for what reason.

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And last, but not least on my list, I'm saying

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hello this week to Lester Siao Yehung, who's saying hello

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from Malaysia and sending us that lovely, livelong and prosper emoji.

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Thank you so much, Lester for saying hello. Charles, for

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God's sake, take this mic away from me.

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Okay, definitely, Eric the time of warm. Welcome to Phillip

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Basile from sun leag Arizona. Welcome Philip. Welcome Colonel Justin

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Rankin from New Mexico. Okay, Colonel Greener Red, Welcome Tory

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Parker from Stockton, California. Welcome Tory, and welcome Frank Oatley

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from is Morda in the Florida Keys. But I've been

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living in Washington State since nineteen ninety five. Oh, Frank,

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are you on the wet side of the dry side.

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We're visiting the wetside last weekend, just south of Seattle.

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But on going on, say, b who's on your list?

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All right?

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I have a shaven do dunfey Hope, I pronounced your

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first name right from Mexico City. Then Matt Miles is

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sending a big smiley face from southern Arizona.

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And hello to Ruth.

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Emery from Mitflinburgh, Pennsylvania. And then last, but certainly not least,

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Bill Cavalcik from Akron, Ohio. And if you knew this,

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but Ohio was originally claimed by Virginia in the eighteenth century,

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So Bill, you're a Virginian, all right.

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Onto Paul Megaree for that update of the almost civil

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war between two of our American saints. So thank you.

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Never know what's going to happen when it will happen next,

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so who knows what the cause of that was. Let's

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talk about fans, and we get fans all over the world,

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of course, and i'd I think a huge shot, I'm

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a top fan. Let's work on a pronunciation here, because

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if you just read this as written, it looks like

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it's Gloria guidance right, which is super cool alliteration wise.

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But given that Gloria hal from beloved France and she

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hangs two count of two French flags flying, my guess

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is its pronunciation is Gloria Guidance would be more proposed. Gloria,

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can you set me straight? Get on that website and

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let us know. Anyhow, it's great to know that we

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have star Trek fans like you, cop fans like you,

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Gloria in France, wherever you may be, who knows, whatever

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it is, it's fabulous. You're lucky to be there. Let's

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Hello, thanks for thanks for off thanks for offering us

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some guid dance on the.

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Pronuncio elliot, because he knows that we are very good

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at the mispronunciations of the show. I was pulling some data.

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A good job.

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That just has the reason people turned into these shows

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for the creative pronunciations. When actors are called actor, it's

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very very unexpected and loves it sun out. So whatever

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the dons we can find, we shall provide for you. Eric. Anyhow,

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moving on down the various longitudinal coordinates, here we have

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Sabrina Ghermon in Germany. Sabena's flashness, the old live long

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and prosper and the German flag as well. So great

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to know that there continues to be. The feeling I

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get from being on the show a while is there's

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a vast armada of Star Trek fans in Germany and

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in Europe in particular, so it's great. I think a

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lot of enlightened folks over there. I can only imagine

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what that's like, living in a giant continent full of

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enlightened human beings. My dream of such a thing that

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I have yet to experience it. So I can just

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look at folks like Gloria and Sabrina and wonder how

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fabulous that is. Anyhow, my reverie must end, and I

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must move on to Rachel Louise Lamerton from Sheffield, England.

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Wonderful place. There a lot of hard drinkers in Sheffield,

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from what I understand, a lot going on there. Can

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get a little grim sometimes in the cold winter months,

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but Rachel Louise Lamberton is keeping that flag flying with

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Star Trek positivity. So Rachel, thanks for chiming in and

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saying hello. And now we must leave this continent and

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leap across the Atlantic over to Buenos Aires, Argentina, where

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Grazzi Ela Moen.

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Is saying hello and proving to us that there is

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no corner of this planet you and he won't find

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he Isn't that right, Uncle Jim?

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I absolutely agree, which leads us to Springfield, Missouri, with

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a couple of hearts from Mary Kay Owens, thank you

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for listening. We also want to say thank you to

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Ernest our Starr, who says been a trecky for fifty

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plus years and he's listening to us in Bethany, Oklahoma.

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Thank you, Ernest. We also want to say thank you

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to Angie Wilkes from Pittsburgh, PA, who turns around and

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says there are not enough Trekies here. But that's okay, Angie,

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because there's plenty of Treckies here, so tune in and

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Does sound to me from this last episode of Star

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Trek like there are some amazing sandwiches with French fries

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and Coleslaw on them being referenced in Star Trek. So

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that's kind of fun that.

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So there's got to be enough fans there in order

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for them to reference it on the show. We've yet

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Vermont, you know, basically.

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not that Doug, Doug Bates, who is in northeast Texas.

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Thank you for listening. Doug.

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Now, if he was from Vulcan be a different story,

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but he's from Northeast Texas. And that my friends are

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are fin shower for this week. Head over to trek

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back in nineteen ninety one, there's me and Eric at

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Trek connor Roga. You can send us a picture and

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we'll put it right up there with all of these

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awesome fan pictures. So please do that. And now it's

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time for our polls, which means it's time.

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For the polling song.

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Linn you know me like no Wind, what you thought

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about the show. Then we try just share your opinions

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with all of our minions out there, because they listen world.

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Why so tell us just what you think. Get together,

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we will all ta canar and robulin a.

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All right, guys, while you're on our Facebook page, truck

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talking and beyond, I throw out all kinds of poll questions.

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Make sure you answer our pole questions and come back

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and see how you fared with the rest of our minions.

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So David, roll the tape.

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There are presents and cake at the same time.

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Yes, also candles, and they do it every year. Fascinating.

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Pull on this finger.

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That is correct, and.

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Then it is illogical.

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But put the it is together.

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It is I logical clocks two hundred words per minute.

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That is merely an average. Intelligent humans read closer to

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three hundred words.

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But that is so slow. Are humans damaged?

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Yes?

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Give me five now down low?

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Why would you do that?

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Because you are too slow?

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They require eight hours of sleep every twenty.

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Four hours every day.

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Remarkable.

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How do they get anything done?

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It is illogical. Closer together, faster, it is illogical.

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Not quite, you do it.

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Some humans eat a great deal of meat, and also cheese,

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not much cheese, a great deal of cheese.

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And humans view these for the express purpose of being scared.

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Yes, they are horror movies.

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Are the movies horrible?

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Yes?

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No?

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Sometimes high five.

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Down low victory? I am human, although that is untrue.

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I am vocan. I'm very excited right now.

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It's it is, it's it is, it's it is, it's.

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Is that not what I am doing? Isn't that what

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I am doing?

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Isn't I have achieved it?

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I love it?

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So that clip, A lot of fans on our Facebook

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page and across the internet in general were complaining because

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they didn't see that scene in the episode, and that's

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because it wasn't in the episode. It was the after

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credits clips. And I did warn everybody to make sure

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to watch the episode all the way to the end

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last week. So, without any further ado, you saw the clip, Eric,

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what's the question?

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Well, that character, of course, Patton Oswald is playing the

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vulcan Doug, And the question was did you like Doug

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as portrayed by Patton Oswald? And ninety percent of our

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responders said yes, they liked Doug and three percent said no.

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And that was not me, although I didn't answer the poll.

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So ohne either way.

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You weren't one of the ones that just put down.

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Now, oh well, let's see Paul, What did you think

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about Doug.

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Sure, sir, thank you. I'm a fan of Punton Oswald.

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I think he's great. I think he's a wonderful social commentarian,

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fine actor. I did not care for this character though, whatsoever.

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I thought it was rather it seemed like this was

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something that everybody's agent's cooked up, and it felt to

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me like what's referred to as stunt casting. And there's

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no way you can even for a second not be

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cognizant that this is Patton Oswald. So it's very difficult

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to get into the character. It's just it's just, you know,

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I'm gonna save most of my thoughts for when we

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actually talked about the episode. But it did not work

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for me. And and they're claiming there at the end

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it was just it was so slow. I mean, good lord,

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it was just painfully slow. And and that music in

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the background, I mean, I'm assuming we didn't put that

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music in there, right, that's the music to play with it,

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the looking you know Ed Sullivan show.

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You know they pulled directly from the Benny Hill Show.

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Yes, plate spinning music or whatever. It's just a super

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super I don't know. Yeah, I'll have more to say

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when we talk about the episode, but not nothing against you,

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Patton Oswald.

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I think you're great.

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I like what you do. I'm I feel sorry that

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you got shoehorned into this rather embarrassing gig. I would

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just say that.

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All right, how about you, David, what do you think about? Doug? Doug?

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How about you v what do you think about.

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I absolutely loved him. I had to. I had.

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I admit I didn't recognize him right off the bat,

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so I had to look it up and said, oh, yes,

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because he looked familiar. But I was gonna say shoehorning

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him so how you can't look at him but any

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anybody else but Patton Oswald. I mean, I immediately thought

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of DS nine with the magnificent Ferengi episode, and you

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have Iggy Pop as Yelgren the Vorta and in all

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his iggy pop voice and everything like that. But I

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guess he was a IgG. He's a Star Trek fan,

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so it is patent apparently, and I don't know.

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I just I thought it was.

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It made me laugh in a time where God knows,

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we don't get enough things to laugh about.

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So if I laughed like an idiot.

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And I watched it four times then, so be it,

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because for that time I wasn't thinking about, you know,

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you know, what's going on on the outside. But I

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enjoyed it because well, I mean, he was there to

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be an expert in the what's it called, I can't

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the not chakra but the atra hatra. Yeah, and so

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but the fact that he and Una used to be

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a thing that cracked me up too, because you know,

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he's like four feet tall and she's like, you know,

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over six feet, So that was that pairing and the

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fact that they went on a date afterwards was just

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I thought, really cute.

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So I loved it. I agree with the fans.

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All right, how about you, Charles, what do you think

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about Doug? Buddy?

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I enjoyed Doug. I'll talk about it more. But I

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think we had a variation of Vulcans in this show,

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and I think that show was a little more variationally

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that you were used to seeing in the vulcans. So

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when you got somebody wagged fees interested in humans that

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most falcons are, and I think he made Doug a

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little different and I enjoyed having something a little different.

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All right, Eric, your thoughts on Doug.

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Well.

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Of all of the new Vulcans that were introduced in

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this episode, he by far was the best, but I

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still hated him. So it's a good thing I didn't

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do the vote. The Novoe would have been at least doubled.

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I'm kind of with Paul on this one. Yeah, I

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felt like he was too horned into it. I'll talk

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more about it. When we reviewed the episode.

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No, I love them, I was with v I laughed,

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I cried, I hurled. I just I thought it was

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great and after all, you know, it was good to

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have a laugh, and it was nice to see something

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like that, something different on Star Trek.

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So I enjoyed Doug.

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I'm with the minions and it's time for our next

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poll question.

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David roll the tape.

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I just spoke with COMMN.

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They weren't thrilled with me, but given the circumstances, we're

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an agreement.

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Now on let's get our attention.

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Firing a low you burst enough to annoy her, but

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enough of her to reflect back against us.

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Mm hmmm.

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She released from this honey ship.

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Or take a set of course for the system son Hi, Sir.

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The Dakar's children in her home World, they haven't been altered.

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She's worried for that.

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Tell her, tell her We'll make sure that they stay

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that way.

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That's a promise.

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H all right?

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That clip is from What Is Starfleet? Which was last

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week's episode, and we saw the clip, Eric, what is

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the question?

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It's like heart wrenching, man.

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I love it.

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In the Strange New World's episode What Is Starfleet? A

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fantastic episode that we reviewed last week, Captain Pike helps

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a sentient creature commit suicide. Do you agree with his decision?

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And I admit somewhat surprisingly, although I guess we do

486
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have Star Trek fans here so maybe a little bit

487
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.279
more on this side of the of the coin. Ninety

488
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:11.440
six percent of our responders agreed with Pike's decision and

489
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:18.599
only four percent did not agree. And yeah, I you know, personally,

490
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:24.039
I am a big advocate for a person's right to

491
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.119
decide how they want to end their life, and in

492
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.400
this case, I think it was pretty clear that the

493
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:34.640
creature was done. They communicated with her, they executed her wishes,

494
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.599
and that was, in my opinion, absolutely the right thing

495
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.519
to do. So I am with the minions on this one.

496
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.400
How about you, Charles? What do you think are you

497
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.279
with the minions?

498
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.480
I'm just gonna agree with what Eric just said. That

499
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:54.119
stripes the point exactly how it is excellent.

500
00:32:54.160 --> 00:33:02.000
How about U V the are you there? What?

501
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:02.319
Oh?

502
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:03.480
I'm sorry I didn't hear you.

503
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.480
Sorry you think dominion?

504
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.759
Yes, definitely, Gosh, I forgot how heart wrenching that was.

505
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:14.119
Well, she had been.

506
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.799
Irreversibly altered to be an instrument of war, and she

507
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.119
was in pain, and there was nothing they could do

508
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:28.559
for her. And sometimes, I mean, you know, and I

509
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:30.319
hate to bring it up, but as you know, we

510
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:36.079
have our furry friends, and you know, when their life,

511
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.319
you know, they have no longer a good quality of life,

512
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.640
we have to help them out of this world. But

513
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.759
what got me was the fact that she had communicated

514
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.200
about her children. So that's a universal thing with mothers

515
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:54.160
want their children. You know, all you care about is

516
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.319
you want your children to be okay. And once she

517
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.720
knew that Pike was going to make sure that her

518
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:03.400
childildren were okay, then you know she was. She could

519
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:08.000
die in peace, you know, she she died in peace,

520
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.280
so there really was no other option. So God, that

521
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.519
was just so beautiful and just heart wrenching.

522
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:22.000
So v when you say our friends cosplayer, when you

523
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.599
say when you say our furry friends, do you mean cosplayers?

524
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:30.800
I want to make sure I was followed.

525
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:36.079
I might have gotten gotten my you know, sorry long day. Yeah,

526
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:40.880
I absolutely agree. Yeah, he's throwing stuff at the wall

527
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:42.920
and see what sticks, right, I mean, that's how it works.

528
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.400
And you know, not all gonna be home runs any baseball.

529
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:48.840
How you developed your brand, man, exactly?

530
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.239
You know, just just just don't hold back. That's the

531
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:55.920
only rule. Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine not agreeing

532
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.119
with this question. And I think we should have a good, long,

533
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.679
hard talk next to the airline. Anyone doesn't, frankly. I mean,

534
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.599
it's just it's you know, you know, right to choose

535
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:10.239
and self determination and no, if you're if you're dying painfully,

536
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.719
by all means you should be forced to suffer and

537
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.280
live out your life and exquisite torment. Right is that?

538
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.360
What our is that? What our four percent are saying

539
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:19.239
here is that?

540
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:20.559
What I don't know.

541
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.679
My bigger question is as the creature, as the creature

542
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.920
is approaching the sun, how is that there is sound

543
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.480
in the vacuum of space? That is my biggest question.

544
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.639
When I watched that clip because it's like we're getting.

545
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:37.679
All these comonics and don't question noises, don't question question everything.

546
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:41.159
Yeah, I know, it's just that kind of you know,

547
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.320
in space, no one can hear you scream.

548
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:44.320
That's what I've heard.

549
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:48.320
So it's been the case with Star Trek since its inception. Man,

550
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.639
every time it goes to warp, it goes.

551
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:57.440
I'm all about suspending disbelief, but you know, but yeah,

552
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:02.199
that's a little annoying. So yeah, fans correct four percent

553
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:07.519
seek help, Well you can't, that would be my Yeah, great.

554
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:14.000
Well David, what do you think, buddy? Are you with dominions?

555
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:25.159
Mhm h.

556
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:40.719
M all right, I'm gonna make it to trifecta. I'm

557
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:42.960
also with dominions as well.

558
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:44.840
What a shock. All the truck.

559
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:48.079
Spurts are with dominions. So none of us were with

560
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.320
the four percent. So that's our poll up questions for

561
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.199
this week. I have some new ones up on our

562
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.800
Facebook page. Please go check it out and let your

563
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.719
opinion be heard. And now it's time for some fun,

564
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.239
little fun segment because we only have one more episode left.

565
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.719
He might be wrapping up the trivia time with Uncle Jim,

566
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:09.800
but at any rate.

567
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.519
Here we go, and you know what that music means.

568
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.480
It's once again time to put on your thinking caps

569
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:24.079
and join us for Star Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim.

570
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.599
Well Ve gets the first question, and well, I okay,

571
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:33.519
so v what character does Patton Oswalt play?

572
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:33.800
First?

573
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.960
It's Doug, but he also had because his parents had

574
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:42.320
an affinity for human names, so that's why he's called Doug.

575
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.480
But he also has a sister named Susan I think

576
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:51.079
it was, and a brother named Pete. So that just

577
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.559
that just was cracked me up.

578
00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:00.519
All right, you're ready, David, there's a tough one for you.

579
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:11.440
What did Nurse Chapel make for Spot and Roger Corby group?

580
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:17.039
You couldn't? Yeah, I think it was a Valkan shoe

581
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.440
called I just shot your.

582
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:22.840
Starts with the.

583
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:42.719
pH h Yeah it was? Was it mock or I

584
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.960
don't know? Yeah? Yeah when when h?

585
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.679
And also the moment where Nurse Chapel tastes it and

586
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.199
she's like choking on it and she said, I'm so sorry.

587
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.239
She apparently gets the words out because it was terrible.

588
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.760
That was hilarious, just the way she she's choking and

589
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.239
she's trying to get the words out to apologize for

590
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:07.480
making that crap.

591
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.920
So so when she makes it for Spot in a

592
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.000
mulk time and he throws it at her, do you

593
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:14.679
think it was the same crabby recipe?

594
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:15.960
Did she improve it since?

595
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:16.719
Now?

596
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:23.039
Well considering yeah, let's just say yes, yes.

597
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.079
Yes, all right, Paul, here's a tough one for you,

598
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.519
who said I had the same problem with LSD in

599
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.719
the nineteen sixties and the nineteen nineties and last July.

600
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.880
Oh dash, Let's see which character on the show. Let

601
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:43.280
me think about this really hard. Which character is sort

602
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.519
of like you know, spacey and new age and like

603
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.639
you know, trippy and with a lot of sixties references

604
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:53.679
and kind of has a dizzy, scatterbrained drug induced persona.

605
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:59.039
Who could that possibly be? I know it's Captain Pike. No, actually,

606
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:05.039
it is, of course everyone's orderline least favorite character, Commander Pelliot.

607
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:13.360
That's right, that is right, Charles. What drink did Jim

608
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.320
Kirk introduce Scotty to?

609
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.199
Well? I think look at that episode. I think he

610
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:26.519
almost tried to convince Skoty to Troy Rum but changed

611
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.480
his mind, try to get him and cooked on a Scotch.

612
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:34.440
Instead on Scotch that's right, absolutely, because the last time

613
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.320
he didn't drink it and fans went crazy because Scotty

614
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.320
didn't drink the scotch. So I guess they fixed that

615
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:41.800
problem in this episode.

616
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.719
So what you're saying is that Kirk is an enabler

617
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:48.239
to get somebody hooked on a drug that will haunt

618
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:52.880
them the rest of their life.

619
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:58.119
Und all right, Eric here we go who said he

620
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.639
as in Spot has a big allerpa.

621
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:03.519
Big.

622
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.760
I think it. Well, if we're talking about this past episode,

623
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:11.360
then it was Una who said it because they were

624
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.599
sort of faking that they were married, and you know

625
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:19.280
that obviously was a reference to the roughly phallic shape

626
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.360
of alyripa. But I also think that I went back

627
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:26.119
to if I remember correctly, I believe that Erica Ortegas

628
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:32.159
says something very similar in Spockamok from last season. There's

629
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.719
that whole dream sequence with the Liripa fight and she

630
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.559
says something about a big lyripa. So so yeah, this time,

631
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:40.400
I'm sure is what you're asking about. So that's Una

632
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:41.960
chin Riley, that's right.

633
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:47.079
She likes like spocks being all right, v Another one

634
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.559
for you who was swooning for.

635
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.239
Doug the aforementioned una Chin Riley.

636
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:54.880
That's right.

637
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.119
They have a history and.

638
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.559
They've been together and then they break up, but she

639
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.039
just somehow changes when she's around him, so they've got

640
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.199
absurdly strong chemistry.

641
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:12.119
That's right. All right, David, you're ready?

642
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:19.440
Okay, what did Captain Pike have removed from the ready room?

643
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:20.000
Uh?

644
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.360
Closed?

645
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.320
Yeah? Was it? No?

646
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:31.360
No?

647
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:32.159
Okay?

648
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:33.519
Yeah?

649
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:44.639
So what was it?

650
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:45.440
Was it clothed?

651
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:48.440
It wasn't.

652
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.840
We're trying to tell you it wasn't closed. I thought he.

653
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:57.920
Removed it from the reading room because oh got she quartered?

654
00:42:57.960 --> 00:42:59.519
I was thinking, never mind, Okay, what.

655
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.599
Do you room chairs? That's right?

656
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.480
I got reason chairs.

657
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:11.400
So if you took the chairs out and their clothes

658
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:13.559
were on the chairs, and then I suppose.

659
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:17.280
All right, I thought I thought I was punchy.

660
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.760
Wow, Well, David puts a lot of work into the podcast,

661
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:27.360
so I get it colectively.

662
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.599
So who said listen ears?

663
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:35.719
Well, let's see that is dialogue. They can only be

664
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:40.159
delivered by cold blooded, potentially egg laying Captain Marie Bettel.

665
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:45.960
It's gonna lay some.

666
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:48.880
You do have two episodes left, so there still could

667
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:54.119
be some scilly hot you know, you know, gold gold

668
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:58.559
blooded rubbed my scales off during that one, is Murrie.

669
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.960
I mean, it's just you know, anything could happen, so,

670
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:07.840
you know, a couple of episodes left, but plot at all.

671
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:09.840
I mean it's just like, you know, let's make it

672
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:11.960
the most high stakes thing ever that could happen to

673
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:16.960
a character, and let's just forget it like it's super good.

674
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.039
But let's work on those eighth grade puns that everyone

675
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.280
seems to enjoy so much. Let's get lots of those.

676
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:25.159
She's a really strong box to come back myself. I mean,

677
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:26.639
we saw, why do you.

678
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:28.760
Have to work Star Trek five into every single box?

679
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:29.039
You know?

680
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.519
This is how we know Jim hasn't been replaced with

681
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:38.760
an imposter Eric. This is yeah, did he mention Star

682
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.400
Trek five not a clone or a fox or something?

683
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:43.719
But we know he's the legit.

684
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.599
Article or changeling, don't forget.

685
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:50.880
So it's like a truth tast you know, that's right.

686
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.159
I think if he was a changeling, he would literally

687
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.400
throw up every time he said that. It just would.

688
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:00.639
Like I wouldn't.

689
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:02.719
I don't know, I don't even know how to reply

690
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:03.159
to that.

691
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:05.760
I just like, no.

692
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:11.199
Context whatsoever for starters, not even seventy or degrees of

693
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.039
familiarity from where we're at, and all of a sudden

694
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.559
it just comes in there like a blow dart from

695
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.119
like some you know, from some random tribes.

696
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:31.440
We were talking about the Gorn and you know.

697
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:39.159
People that were drunk tonight or something.

698
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.239
We're having fun speaking of Captain Pathel. What happens to

699
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.920
her in this episode, Well.

700
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:56.480
She offers her resignation to the Admiral and then Guess

701
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.760
offered the position of head of stir Fleet to juris

702
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:01.480
Jurisdictional Department.

703
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:07.400
That's right, So she's she's moving on up to a

704
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.639
deluxe apartment in the sky high.

705
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:13.400
All right, Eric, you.

706
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:18.280
Ready, I am who stopped on from our galactic Plans

707
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:18.960
of war.

708
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.159
Oh, thank you for giving me the question about the

709
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:28.159
one really good scene. It was Scottie he tricks are

710
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:29.760
going to pressing the button and she gets zapped and

711
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:30.679
it was hilarious.

712
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:37.559
All right, guys, Well that was our our star trek

713
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.639
trivia with Uncle Jim. I hope you guys had fun.

714
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:41.559
I hope you enjoyed it as much as we did.

715
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:46.400
And now it's time for some cadet training with Charles.

716
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:49.320
And this is where Charles pulls up some episodes that

717
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.920
might be important to this week's episode, So take it away, Charles.

718
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:58.519
Oh, thank you, Uncle Jim. This was a fun one

719
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.000
to start kind of piecing again. Other let's start it

720
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:07.000
off with Strange New World Charades. Season two, episode five.

721
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.559
This is where Spock becomes human. This is where they

722
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.480
get the theorem two actually try putting the four Vulcans together.

723
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:22.599
Love this quote Star Trek four Voyage Home. Kirk claims

724
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:27.480
spos had too much LDS in the sixties. Of course

725
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.960
we know he meant ld LSD and reference also that

726
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:37.760
Pellia was also trying it in the sixties. Also TNG

727
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.079
is gambit part one in two season seven, episode four

728
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:48.400
and five. This is one of many Vulcan isolationist movements

729
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:55.800
that have occurred in Star Trek Discovery Lesay season one,

730
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.280
episode six, with a logic extremists we're trying to kill

731
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:10.320
savoc Ah lower decks to a strange New World. Add

732
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:15.639
as add Astra per Aspara. This is where we meet

733
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:21.199
Vice Admiral Pascal was introduced. This is where we had

734
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:25.880
to see him for the first time. TS Return to

735
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.599
Tomorrow season two, episode twenty. This is the first time

736
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:35.239
we've actually heard the Vulcan Katra mentioned where Spock puts

737
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:44.440
his cotra in and then star trek Ratha Khan. This

738
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:54.039
is where Spock transfers his cotra to McCoy enterprise Unexpected

739
00:48:54.119 --> 00:49:00.760
Season one, episode five, This is the first time UH,

740
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:06.039
We'll make soup is seen, But then in t O

741
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:13.039
s Amok Time Season two, episode one, Chapel makes uh

742
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:17.719
try tried to make the soup for Spock during his

743
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:26.960
pond far, which he throws it at her. I think

744
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:34.679
that's yes, but I was thinking we he just threw it,

745
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:39.400
Whereas I think that's the first time they actually referenced

746
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:45.280
as an actual common Vulcan food and enterprise. I don't

747
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.719
think Spock had a whole lot of soup, and t

748
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:54.119
O s I may have had a vulcan An enterprise

749
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:59.480
who all right? Later later behind the shed.

750
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:02.239
Later behind the shed?

751
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.480
All right, guys, oh, real quick, in case in case

752
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.440
I disappear. We're having a thunderstorm and the lights keep flickering,

753
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.119
which they don't usually do, so if I disappear, that's

754
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.800
because so hopefully I won't.

755
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:19.320
But just in case you don't.

756
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.840
Classic horror movie. Good work on.

757
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.599
Our Facebook page. That's right, yeah, is it a horrible.

758
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.119
We ask you guys, the fans, to tell us what

759
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:33.199
you thought about this week's episode on a scale of

760
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:36.679
one to ten, and so, Eric, what did our Facebook

761
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.719
fans have to say about four and a have vulcans?

762
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.159
Well, I'm glad you asked Jim, because Christina Griffiths said

763
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.360
I'm giving it an eight. She quotes I did not

764
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:51.719
make good decisions in all caps. Thanks, Christina dan Ceo

765
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:59.119
said a ten. Doug stole this episode. Rita equip Tea

766
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.960
said it's quickly turning into my favorite Star Trek and

767
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:05.400
I've been a tricky since nineteen sixty seven. Ten out

768
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.719
of ten. Thomas O'Connor gave it a nine point five.

769
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:13.360
This show is the best New Trek by far. Christine

770
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:18.639
stickoverr Para said, Rebecca Romaine and Patton Oswald loved them

771
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:24.480
such lust heart emoji when number one Breathaly says tug

772
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:30.239
in her voice over loved it a ten. Karen Frizzell

773
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:34.320
said six and a half. Thanks Karen for giving us that.

774
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:39.039
Andre Grindle said, my favorite episode since Wedding Bell Blues,

775
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.039
No trauma jump scares great tos type theme with a

776
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.360
lot of humor and heart and a classic star Trek's

777
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:49.199
social message about the problems and consequences of unchecked logic.

778
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:55.039
Loved it nine out of ten. Alan Gammel said ten,

779
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.719
but they've never had less than a seven in three seasons.

780
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.800
Only Strange New Worlds could get by with Patton Oswald.

781
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.280
As a Vulcan named Doug Becky Trees said, five, we

782
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:09.679
never get to see how the character's caw treatment worked.

783
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.360
The story seemed incomplete. Why did they put Patton Oswald's

784
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.519
character in if they weren't going to use him for

785
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.920
anything but a moment of humor. However, I did crack

786
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.880
up at the reference. Oh here it is to Pittsburgh's

787
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:26.800
Primonte Brothers restaurant. Yes, they put French fries on sandwiches,

788
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:31.639
and as I read, also Coleslop. Thanks Becky. Kathy Varga

789
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:35.679
gave it a ten, and that Folks gives us a

790
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:41.199
fan score this week of eight point eight, which technically

791
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:44.440
is the second highest rating that our fans have given

792
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:48.440
an episode so far this season, just directly behind the

793
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:49.880
Salot who ate its tail?

794
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:54.480
All right, Paul, you want to jump in and give

795
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.079
us quick run down before we start reviewing.

796
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:01.320
I wrotempt, I will attempt, just making sure you can

797
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:05.800
hear me, O King, is it okay?

798
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:06.800
Sounds good?

799
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:11.760
Okay, thanks appreciate that. So we're talking about four and

800
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:15.159
a half Falcans, not two and a half dads, but

801
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:18.639
four and a half Falcans, the latest foray in to

802
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:23.760
comedy in Strange New Worlds. The setup is rather baroque

803
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:28.039
and abbreviated. The Enterprise gets this urgent request from the

804
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:32.159
Vulcan High Council to help with this prewarped civilization planet

805
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:35.880
that used to have like a nuclear power system Vulcan installed,

806
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:39.719
but due to the Prime Directive, Federationship can't really intervene.

807
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:43.239
So the set up is that whoever does go down

808
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.480
intervene has to pose a Vulcans. But you know these

809
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:50.440
pre warped knuckleheads are so you know, smooth and savvy.

810
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:52.559
They would of course tell if you had on like

811
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.679
latex ears and shit, right, So they actually have to

812
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:59.239
be transformed into Vulcans themselves.

813
00:53:59.320 --> 00:53:59.480
Right.

814
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:01.360
So, using a see him from an episode in a

815
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:09.840
previous season, Pike, Lawn, Uhura and Chapel transform themselves into

816
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:13.960
full Vulcans. To help pass the advanced scanners of this

817
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:18.320
pre warped civilization. That makes a lot of sense with

818
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:21.840
their new Vulcan minds, though these four individuals exhibit a

819
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:27.519
lot of exaggerated behaviors, very rude, selfish, emotionally detached, including

820
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:31.079
some racism to good old Spock for being only half Vulcan,

821
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:34.840
which is a little uncomfortable, which distresses Spock, and he's

822
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.599
very displeased by the logical inconsistencies and rude feetman he

823
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:43.880
receives from his colleague As we lurch into the fourth act,

824
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:50.000
Una unless her former romantic interest, Doug, who is a

825
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:56.679
Vulcan fascinated by humans, Doug who's a Contra expert who

826
00:54:56.719 --> 00:55:00.679
supposedly went to help them. With Doug's guidance, Spock is

827
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:03.920
able to persuade the team to revert back to their

828
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:09.480
human forms, including a rather unpleasant moment that's supposed to

829
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:15.360
be a depiction of Lan's contra mindset, where she does

830
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:22.599
a for me excruciatingly painful long tango dance with Ethan

831
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:26.679
Pack that it was like nails on the chalkboard in

832
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:33.880
my mind. Okay, everybody does finally gives up being Vulcan.

833
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:37.320
And they go back as normal. I did not go

834
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:39.679
back to normal though, from this episode, because for me,

835
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:41.519
this is like, I think, one of the all time

836
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:45.800
worst episodes. I'm just gonna go right into it because

837
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.559
it will save time really jumping back, it seems it

838
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:50.840
seems inefficient to have me do a summary and then

839
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:54.519
return again later in the episode to give my opinion. Therefore,

840
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.760
I will logically and efficiently go and do both at

841
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.800
once in the same time. If that is okay. I

842
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:02.400
just such this was an abomination. It was just as

843
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.440
soon as the four of them are walking down the

844
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:07.199
hall to their Beastie Boys thing or whatever it is

845
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.519
in slow motion a la Quentin Tarantino flipping the lyripa around,

846
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.559
I'm just like, oh my god, you have got to

847
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:16.000
be fucking kidding me. I mean, it was written by

848
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.440
a bunch of like eighth graders, right, I mean, it

849
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:20.960
just seemed like it was It was just I mean,

850
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.039
it sounds like people thought it was funny. But for you,

851
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:26.519
I am not trying to take away anyone's fun during

852
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:31.320
these horrifically abysmal authoritarian times we find ourselves in. But

853
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.800
comedy is super subjective, and for me, this was just

854
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:39.400
a train wreck, right, I'm Kirk and Scotti provided the

855
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:46.800
only real decent performances at all. I think apparently when

856
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:50.639
you took this serum that messages with your DNA, it

857
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:54.280
also somehow magically transforms your clothes and your hair and everything.

858
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:57.239
It's just amazing, and also all of your learned behaviors.

859
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:01.199
So it's not just that you're that your you know,

860
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.800
appearance has been changed, your entire mental wiring has been changed.

861
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:08.000
I'm quite a serum nurse chapel. I don't know how

862
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:11.480
you managed to keep that from being exploited or copyrighted

863
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:15.280
all these years. But it was just a preposterous, I mean,

864
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.159
a complete defiance of science, common sense, and for the

865
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:23.199
most part, good taste. I thought it was really annoying

866
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:26.679
to a huge degree. It seemed to me normally I'm

867
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:29.840
a big phonement of Captain Pike, but it seemed like

868
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:33.519
hansen Man stage direction was like like bell dark conehead,

869
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.280
because that's what I was getting from his performance, right,

870
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.360
A lot of yelling and I have very certain voice

871
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:41.679
like that. I mean, it was just preposterous. So for me,

872
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.239
this is a you know, really we've got two more

873
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:47.519
episodes left after this this season, you know, and this

874
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:50.360
has not been the greatest season ever, and this was

875
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:51.920
as like, you know, every year they try to do

876
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.000
a comic episode or once, but this one was not successful.

877
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.039
I've enjoyed their past comic outings, not this one. And

878
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:03.199
so for me, yeah, I just had a really poor

879
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:08.760
experience watching it. You know, it just was not well done.

880
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:12.519
It was really stupid, and so I'm going to be

881
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.719
generous and given up. But that's the best I can do.

882
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:19.199
I'm dying to hear what Eric said.

883
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:26.559
Yeah, okay, I think yeah, were there, but I'm pretty

884
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:29.360
sure that he said five was the final score?

885
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:31.039
Is my audio? Five?

886
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:33.760
Is that it five? Five?

887
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:35.719
No audio?

888
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.320
It's well, it's weird. It's like good for the first

889
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:41.119
like seventy five percent, and then it starts to cut

890
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:41.920
out towards the end.

891
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:42.599
I'm not sure.

892
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.280
You know, last week when you disconnected and reconnected, it

893
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:46.679
like all of a sudden was amazing again.

894
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:49.840
So I'm not sure what Maybe I should do that again, weird,

895
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:51.960
I don't know what. Anyhow, I give him five if

896
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:55.239
that wasn't clear, and I feel like I was being generous.

897
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:59.079
We got a five from Paul all right, David what

898
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.159
do you think, David four and a half balcons.

899
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:05.760
I didn't have to agree with Paul. There was a

900
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.440
lot of non common sense things in this episode, but

901
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:13.599
overall the comedy for some reason, it's okay.

902
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:14.960
Uh.

903
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.800
It bought to go up for me with the comedy

904
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.239
and the way a lot of the different especially Repellia,

905
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.079
She was pretty funny in this episode, except at the

906
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:28.119
very beginning. I didn't like that whole having the high five.

907
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.400
Thought that was a little drains and then Pike was like,

908
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:33.599
what are you doing? And then she just like slapped them.

909
00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.880
It's like, what is that really what you're doing to

910
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:40.480
your boss? It's like to me, I there were a

911
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:42.440
lot of ups and down for me in this one.

912
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:46.199
But to me, I didn't make a list of like

913
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:49.039
certain things that I did like I thought were funny

914
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.719
and I would quickly go over them. But I did

915
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:58.920
like that the uh in the very beginning, because you know,

916
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:05.679
like the whole uh the theme, the thing music for

917
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:10.400
the uh uh credits. My god, I can't even think, sorry,

918
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:14.519
but yeah, the credits that I thought were pretty interesting

919
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:21.679
because of the fact that Pike was actually speaking in

920
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.960
like a vulcan tone, innocent and I know some people

921
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.360
didn't really like the way that he spoke, but I

922
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:29.039
thought that was pretty clever in the fact that he

923
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:31.920
just kind of like, you know, played his roles of Vulcan.

924
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:35.320
So but yeah, I do have to call there that

925
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:39.119
I did not like the way that they came Vulcan

926
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:44.440
and that their hair is always didn't change. But anyway,

927
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:47.559
skipping on the next thing, I kind of laughed that way.

928
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:52.679
You know, Pipe was cleaning his hoarders in that waiting room,

929
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:56.559
and so I just thought that was kind of funny

930
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:58.400
how he was just like he had like this, uh.

931
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:03.480
I guess it was like an O. C D part

932
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:05.000
of him that was just kind of like he has

933
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:10.199
to make everything startling clean for the arrival of the admiral.

934
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.400
So I thought that was pretty interesting and funny. So

935
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.320
I was writing notes as I was watching it, and

936
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:26.519
I immediately knew that was a Romulin just a way

937
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:28.880
that she was so manipulative and everything like that. And

938
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.559
then when they got together and they talked about it,

939
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:35.920
like you know, I can't say certain things to a degree,

940
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:39.639
and it was pretty chilly, but you know, I just

941
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:43.679
knew that she was part Romulin because of probably her

942
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:49.320
dreams that she had gotten. But yeah, so I did

943
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:57.000
like how okay, So when they introduced uh Doug for

944
01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:00.159
the first time, I laughed out loud when they at

945
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:03.360
his name. I don't know why, but it's just unusual

946
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:07.159
to see an alien with an earthly name and events,

947
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:09.920
and I was just like, Oh, my goodness. And then

948
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.039
he goes on to talk about his sibling Susan and

949
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:16.360
the cousin Pete, and I was like, so, yeah, that

950
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:18.440
made me laugh out loud and a coach, we've already

951
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.519
talked about the Big LoVa, you know. That made me

952
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:25.880
laugh there. Uh yeah. So the one thing I did

953
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.480
like about the show was it was interesting how they

954
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:34.239
took Scotty's character and they made him so that uh

955
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:39.360
he uh, how do how do I war? Scotty was

956
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:43.039
inspired by Laan. I thought that was really interesting character development,

957
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:45.639
and I thought that would be kind of an interesting

958
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:48.599
thing if they took that into if they are going

959
01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:53.480
to be creating the New Fos crossover from this show,

960
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.960
so I thought that would be a nice addition to

961
01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:00.519
She whatever will happen to her. I don't know if

962
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.000
they're gonna like going off or anything, but I thought

963
01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:09.320
that would be a very interesting and we could probably

964
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:12.760
talk about it later about more about it. Yeah, I

965
01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:17.599
actually liked how they did that whole ination for Gotti,

966
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:26.000
and so there was another thing too. Of course we've

967
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.440
already kind of touched on the whole Gotti and her

968
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:33.760
type with Gott, you know, bringing back an old dear

969
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:39.159
west uh or that ever kind of anything. And yeah,

970
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:42.360
and the last part I wrote was the ending after

971
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:46.280
the credits were really funny. I laughed. So I don't

972
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:48.000
know why I was chilling. I must have been super

973
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:50.639
tired or something, but it was. It was enjoyable. So

974
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:55.199
to me, I would have to give this episode. Yes,

975
01:03:56.639 --> 01:04:00.480
seven point eight. There were the things that about it,

976
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:03.079
but I did like about it, so that's me.

977
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:08.320
Awesome, awesome, all right, V you're up next?

978
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:12.559
Right, Well this I like this or I love this

979
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:16.639
so much. I watched it four times. But one thing

980
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.400
has anybody gotten I don't know why, but that and

981
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:23.199
I can't think of the actor's name, the guy who

982
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:29.159
plays Kirk. He reminds I'm getting I'm getting Jim Carrey

983
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:30.559
vibes in his.

984
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:32.320
HM.

985
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:38.239
Yes, I am totally getting for some reason, Jim Carrey

986
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:40.880
vibes from him.

987
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.119
But no, it was. I don't know.

988
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:48.559
There were so many things about it that I liked.

989
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:52.920
You know, folks have already mentioned. I will say the

990
01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:58.039
one the one comment about the person you know said that, well,

991
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:02.039
we didn't see what happened with their with their contras,

992
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:04.280
I guess is what she meant. But yeah we did,

993
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:07.559
because they all once they got changed back into themselves,

994
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:11.440
they all, like Chapel said, I understand you so much more.

995
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.360
Spock and.

996
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:20.719
Beto was saying that even he got tricked into, you know,

997
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:25.119
being you was it her gate did a mind meld

998
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:25.760
with him.

999
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:26.840
But he.

1000
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:33.159
You know, had his sister. He and his sister had

1001
01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:39.280
some interactions that they'd never had before. And then of

1002
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:45.159
course my well, yeah On was evil, but when she's

1003
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:48.199
when Spock comes to her and you know me, I

1004
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:49.039
love the dancing.

1005
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.360
I love the dancing because that's.

1006
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:54.280
You know, I no, I didn't used to dance like

1007
01:05:54.559 --> 01:06:01.519
Spock in law On, but just just knowing the skill

1008
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.360
that goes into it. I just appreciated that so much.

1009
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:08.599
But I think the only thing I didn't like was

1010
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:16.280
Pike talking loudly like who is it from? It just

1011
01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:18.800
was awkward and just kind of unnecessary.

1012
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:21.159
So I will.

1013
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:24.599
I'll go ahead and give it a nine point seventy five.

1014
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:25.280
How about that?

1015
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:34.440
Wow, a double decimal. Paul really loves that. All right, Charles,

1016
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:36.559
you're up next, buddy.

1017
01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:44.480
All right, grab my notes. I love one of Doug's lines,

1018
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:53.719
ancient humans very cool. Falcans don't lie and I don't lie,

1019
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:56.559
and I love his reference that it is very cool.

1020
01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:03.519
One thing that brought my score down a little bit

1021
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:05.920
in this episode was the fact that we didn't see

1022
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:09.920
what happened to three of the cast. We only got

1023
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:17.400
to see lions. But to reference a question that Eric

1024
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:19.280
brought out to me, it's like, well, why am I

1025
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:23.000
kind of throwing in these different vulcans. Well, if I

1026
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:28.159
looked at the four vulcans that we've got, we had Leon,

1027
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:32.760
which was very warlike. She wanted to get into full combat.

1028
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:39.239
She won battle. She wanted war. Pike was very strict,

1029
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:46.360
very clean, very logical. His quarters had to be perfect.

1030
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:54.079
Hero was very controlling, where she had to control everything

1031
01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:59.039
around her. And then Chapel just Chapel got lost in

1032
01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:02.440
her work. Oh, I got to make myself perfect where

1033
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:06.159
I can't sleep, I can't have friends. I just got

1034
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.480
to do my work. I got all these science experiments

1035
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:13.719
that I was supposed to be doing, So that's when

1036
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:16.560
I kind of compare the fact that it's like we're

1037
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:20.720
so used to the kind of the strict standard by

1038
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:24.880
the book Vulcan and these four people were not, by

1039
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:30.760
the book strict pure Vulcans. They had some different emotions

1040
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:35.239
or different things going on with how they acted, which

1041
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:37.199
is why I kind of liked this episode because I

1042
01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:40.439
liked the fact that each person had their own personality

1043
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:45.000
and their own little difference to who they were, and

1044
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:47.079
also the fact that they sit there and would push

1045
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:51.119
the fact that's, well, Spock's only half Vulcan. We're better

1046
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:56.720
than he is. And of course David mentioned the fact

1047
01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:02.159
of the new opener opening credit for the show was

1048
01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:10.000
spot with Pike just kind of going monotone and saying

1049
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:16.359
it real slow, almost Kirk like. Definitely thought it was

1050
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:24.199
an interesting relationship builder between Kirk and Scottie. Definitely to

1051
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:28.560
see what direction they're kind of going in him trying

1052
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.680
to kind of build Scotty up a bit, because Scotty's

1053
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:37.359
not as confident as we're used to singing tos, and

1054
01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:41.800
I like that early version also definitely an interesting version

1055
01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:48.880
but her and how she acts now and being a

1056
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:56.680
little more unconfident herself personally. I enjoyed this one. It

1057
01:09:56.720 --> 01:10:02.039
was interesting. I didn't want spoilers and decided I had

1058
01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:05.800
to sit there and watch this episode in my small

1059
01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:08.920
room on my iPad because that was all I had

1060
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.199
that in my chromebook and I couldn't get my chromebook

1061
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:14.119
to work properly. It's like, okay, I'll watch the episode

1062
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:17.439
on my iPad just I've got the chance to see it.

1063
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:21.159
But since a couple of people warn me, you guys

1064
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.600
see the end credits, Like, okay, I'll sit through and

1065
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:27.600
watch all the way to the end credits. And that

1066
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:33.319
was definitely an interesting conversation of how humans act. Yes,

1067
01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:39.680
we have presence and cake It's like, okay, yeah, humans

1068
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:42.840
are a bit of a unique species compared to what

1069
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:48.640
vulcans are used to. So with that, I gave this

1070
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:49.960
one eight point five.

1071
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:55.960
All right, Eric, you're following up an eight point five.

1072
01:10:56.239 --> 01:11:00.000
What do you think, buddy?

1073
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:05.199
Hey, Well, I can say I think definitively that this

1074
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:07.560
is the only episode of Star Trek that I've ever

1075
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:11.880
actually watched. In sort of a card esque face palm,

1076
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:17.560
the entire time, I just really couldn't believe what I

1077
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:22.920
was seeing. For me, this episode, you know, it reduced

1078
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:27.600
sixty five years of development of the noble race of

1079
01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:34.159
Vulcans down to an absolute caricature. They you know, Paul

1080
01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:37.079
mentioned the whole like somehow they absorbed hundreds of years

1081
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:40.720
of culture and training with their little shot DNA shot.

1082
01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:43.319
Somehow their hair changed, somehow they're you know, all of

1083
01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:46.159
this stuff changed. So I don't have a problem at

1084
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:49.159
all with the concept of becoming a different race. Like

1085
01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:52.640
we've seen that a bunch in Star Trek, right, and

1086
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:54.239
people do it so that they can go down to

1087
01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:57.920
planets or so that they can do you know, blend

1088
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:03.079
in to like do a mission or whatever. But the

1089
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:07.239
the and I love the The generally speaking in strange

1090
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:10.600
New worlds. I love comedic moments that they have in episodes.

1091
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:13.000
It's something that I think this show has done pretty

1092
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:16.119
well up until now, where they sort of throw these

1093
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:18.520
little do dads in, which I think is what you

1094
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:22.760
often see in Next Generation, less so on Deep Space nine.

1095
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.039
You see you see it in some of the other

1096
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:28.359
series though, but to me, this one was like was

1097
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:31.680
like watching Star Trek in a in a mirror from

1098
01:12:31.720 --> 01:12:34.359
a fun house. You know, it was like a total

1099
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:38.840
distortion that really didn't really for me, didn't read as

1100
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:42.920
Star Trek at all. I don't need to go through

1101
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:44.800
this scene by scene, but I'll just mention a couple

1102
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.319
of things that sort of I think back my point

1103
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:51.800
up number one. You know, the title is four and

1104
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:55.119
a half Vulcans and they, you know, they really lay

1105
01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:59.359
into Spock for for being half human, which, okay, granted,

1106
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:02.119
is that what volts would do. Well, we sort of

1107
01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:03.840
see that at Star Trek two thousand and nine, right,

1108
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:08.880
we see them going back to that that anti human racism.

1109
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:13.279
We see it in the animated series in Yesteryear, right

1110
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:16.600
where they they go back and they make fun of

1111
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:19.560
Spock for being Vulcans. So I think that's pretty consistent

1112
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:24.119
with what Vulcans would would really do. Does it mean

1113
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.520
that I like to see Spock bullied on a show

1114
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:30.640
that's produced in twenty twenty five?

1115
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:31.199
No?

1116
01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:37.560
Did it lend comedic value to the episode? In my opinion, No,

1117
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:40.680
Watching somebody get bullied like that is never fun, So

1118
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:43.560
it didn't. It just really didn't add anything for me,

1119
01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:46.800
And I didn't like that the fact that they set

1120
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:50.640
up the sort of interesting problem of the planet at

1121
01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:52.680
the very beginning I thought was cool. I was like,

1122
01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:55.640
oh cool, there here's this planet that, like, you know,

1123
01:13:55.800 --> 01:14:00.319
is kind of on the cusp of you know, can

1124
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:03.239
we contact them or can we not? Based on the

1125
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:06.239
prime directive and what we should or should not do,

1126
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:10.600
very very interesting premise. That whole deal was solved in

1127
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:12.800
the first ten minutes of this episode. This episode was

1128
01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:16.439
like fifty three or fifty four minutes long, and all

1129
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:20.600
of the interesting stuff happened probably in the first five minutes,

1130
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:22.800
aside from a couple scenes that I'll talk about later.

1131
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:27.520
But there was no plot to this episode at all.

1132
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:29.560
It was entirely side stories.

1133
01:14:29.760 --> 01:14:30.039
It was.

1134
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:33.640
It was all about like the comedic relief of these

1135
01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:36.479
people trying to turn back into humans or not trying

1136
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:41.439
to turn back into humans. I guess moreover didn't find

1137
01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:47.199
it funny, you know, when I guess, I'll keep going

1138
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:50.000
on a couple of things. So when I look through

1139
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:52.720
my notes, the word that I wrote down the most

1140
01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:57.079
often was ridiculous. I think that you know, several things

1141
01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:02.079
I found ridiculous, the high fives, ridiculous, them not wanting

1142
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:06.079
to transform back into humans, ridiculous, the industrial music playing

1143
01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:07.720
when they're walking slow through the hall.

1144
01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:08.279
I'llah.

1145
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:12.760
Quentin Tarantino as Paul was talking about ridiculous. The fact

1146
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:15.359
that they fixed the energy system. Pelly is literally like

1147
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:17.039
this should take a few hours, and then it was

1148
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:19.840
fixed in like thirty seconds. Okay, they could have made

1149
01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:22.279
it a little longer to make it less ridiculous, but

1150
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:27.119
I get it. They that was ridiculous. There was so

1151
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:30.680
much ridiculousness. I don't even know. I'm trying to think

1152
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:32.800
if Mike, like, if this had been an episode of

1153
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:37.399
like Lower Decks, would that have changed my opinion of it,

1154
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:41.079
because I'm sort of expecting a particular level, but I

1155
01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:47.359
I feel like, yeah, it just felt like it lacked.

1156
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:51.840
And once again, I'm with Paul. I am definitely not

1157
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:54.319
poopoing anybody who said that they liked this episode, So

1158
01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:58.039
please don't misconstrue anything I'm saying as a criticism of

1159
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:01.479
anybody else's opinion, because it really I'm just talking about,

1160
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.000
like straight up what I thought of it, what my

1161
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:08.359
opinion of it was, how I read the episode, and

1162
01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:10.880
and I just don't think I just didn't find it

1163
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:12.840
over I'm boring me.

1164
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:18.640
Sleep I'm so sorry.

1165
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:23.840
I'm just trying not to and I just just escaped me.

1166
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:27.399
I'm so it is a reflection on you, I promise.

1167
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.880
So I just found the comedy to not be super

1168
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:36.399
intelligent at all. I did find Laan's kind of romulent

1169
01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:38.960
tendencies and kind of the realization of her and Pike

1170
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:43.399
coming together to be pretty interesting. I actually liked that,

1171
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:46.039
and la On was probably the most interesting character for me.

1172
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:48.399
You know, she was the outlier, she was the one

1173
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:50.880
who's the most devious. She had some of the best scenes.

1174
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.680
I love when Scotti's apps are at the end. So

1175
01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:57.000
I literally started my review super low, and like every

1176
01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.279
time Lawn would come on, I'd tick it up a

1177
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:01.600
half notch just because I thought she was probably the

1178
01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:06.680
best thing in the episode. Conversely, I couldn't believe how

1179
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:09.920
bad Antson Mount's portrayal of a vulcan was. It was

1180
01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:15.119
almost like, how could you be that bad given that

1181
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:19.319
you're such a good actor. It just really didn't just

1182
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:22.479
really didn't resonate for me at all. So I need

1183
01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:24.119
to wrap this up, I know, because there's a lot

1184
01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:27.479
going on in this episode. The whole last bit everybody

1185
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:31.399
makes up. It sort of all is okay at the end,

1186
01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:33.640
and I'm left at the end of the episode with

1187
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:37.159
my first thought was I'm never watching that again, and

1188
01:17:37.199 --> 01:17:39.279
then my second thought was, oh damn, I forgot to

1189
01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:40.960
take notes. Now I have to watch it one more.

1190
01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:46.560
So I did watch it twice, so this isn't like

1191
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.520
first impressions. This is like, after watching it twice, thinking

1192
01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:51.640
that I was gonna like it more. The second time around,

1193
01:17:52.199 --> 01:17:54.760
I really didn't like it any better. So for me,

1194
01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:58.039
I'm going to quote something that I also read. This

1195
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:01.000
was after I took my notes, but then I went

1196
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:04.279
and read some articles and there was one article sentence

1197
01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:06.880
that I thought was very resonant for me. It said

1198
01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:11.039
Star Trek doesn't endure because of gimmicks or gags. It

1199
01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:14.920
endures because it takes its characters, cultures, and ideas seriously,

1200
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:17.920
even when it's having fun with them. And I felt

1201
01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:20.720
like that was where this episode just really went wrong.

1202
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:25.039
It just made everything into a parody. And I would

1203
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:28.039
put this right up there with probably my least favorite

1204
01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:31.840
episodes of Star Trek of all time. And so I

1205
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:34.119
thought Paul was pretty generous giving it a five. I

1206
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:37.960
actually gave it a three myself, all.

1207
01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:39.399
Right, Eric, can I ask you a question?

1208
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:42.439
So sure?

1209
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:45.720
Yeah, I just real quick, it's like, what did because

1210
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:47.479
I think you brought up something to me was a

1211
01:18:47.479 --> 01:18:49.880
really really good point. Right. It's just like when there's

1212
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:54.600
Lan's weird interior contras scene, Right, what do we see

1213
01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:56.520
that was kind of like a shock and weird thing

1214
01:18:56.520 --> 01:19:01.720
that we didn't expect.

1215
01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:02.680
In that scene.

1216
01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:05.720
Yeah, we saw dolphin.

1217
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:11.000
Yeah, she's in citation on which is like a lower thing, right.

1218
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:12.239
That's a lower deck thing.

1219
01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:14.439
And and what you The point you made I think

1220
01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:16.600
was really really good. This is almost like somebody wrote

1221
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:19.680
a Lower Decks episode and then they decided, oh, we

1222
01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:21.560
can just do it on Stranger Worlds because all the

1223
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:25.720
stuff you're saying, the exaggerated stuff, the ridiculousness, the absurdity.

1224
01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:28.920
I think we accept that stuff. You know, we've solved

1225
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:31.359
the problem in thirty seconds. We would we would accept

1226
01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:33.840
that stuff on Lower Decks because that's a cartoon Yeah.

1227
01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:37.359
I thought we bought a cartoonish mindset to the proceedings here,

1228
01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:38.960
and it really Yeah.

1229
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:42.560
We're interrupting because your audio is cutting out, but I'm sorry,

1230
01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:45.039
but I but I think we totally get what you're saying.

1231
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:48.800
Yeah, absolutely, seeing the dolphins swimming around, I thought was

1232
01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:54.479
pretty neat. You know, when An was in her Coatra

1233
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:58.079
place with Spock, we see the dolphins swimming in the background.

1234
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:02.319
So I I watched this with a different context than

1235
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.119
Paul and Eric did. When I was watching this, I'm

1236
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:09.800
thinking to myself, these are not vulcans. These are humans

1237
01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:13.399
perceptions of what vulcans are. And so each one of

1238
01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:17.319
their their tendencies, their human tendencies had been magnified like

1239
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:20.920
one hundred folds. So you know, Pike was the leader,

1240
01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:23.479
so he's going around making all these decisions. Now, granted,

1241
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:26.199
I agree with Paul. The first thing I said was

1242
01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:29.600
it's belled oar conehead. That's exactly what I thought. He's

1243
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:34.239
walking around doing conehead. But his tendencies had a big

1244
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:38.279
magnified and no, Horror's tendencies to communicate and whatnot had

1245
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:44.960
been magnified. Each one of their human tendencies were magnified

1246
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.800
because they were vulcans, because they weren't raised as vulcans

1247
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:51.800
like Spock, where they had their whole life to train

1248
01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:54.560
to learn how to deal with it, to handle it.

1249
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:57.920
It was just forced on them as humans. So that's

1250
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:02.359
why that that aspect really bother me. I actually found

1251
01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:05.880
it rather humorous and on I think stole the show.

1252
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:08.039
I agree with Eric, Well, we'll.

1253
01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:10.079
Tell the Gorn that the Klingons attacked, and we'll tell

1254
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:12.960
Athoians that it was the Gorn, and we'll start this

1255
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:16.439
intergalactic war and space is there we need to take it.

1256
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:19.960
And Scotty says from who I just I love the

1257
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:23.279
whole on thing, which was really cool.

1258
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:24.119
Doug.

1259
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:29.880
Oh my god, watching watching Una swoon over Doug was priceless.

1260
01:21:30.439 --> 01:21:34.520
I mean, here's this super intelligent, like computer eyed character

1261
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:37.920
and Doug walks in and she just like loses it.

1262
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:40.880
Spock throws the wine on her in her lap and

1263
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:43.279
she's gonna go over and wash it off, and he's like,

1264
01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:46.079
you should leave now. It's like, I love the I

1265
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:51.439
love that whole dynamic between her and Doug. So what

1266
01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:55.800
else can I say that you guys haven't said the

1267
01:21:56.399 --> 01:22:01.119
spot the Scottie Kirk relationship. You could see it starting

1268
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:04.319
to develop right then and there. They make a really

1269
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:11.439
good team and I liked that dynamic. Captain Patel getting promoted,

1270
01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:14.199
maybe that's how they're gonna bump her off the show.

1271
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:18.359
I don't know, but yeah, overall I enjoyed this episode.

1272
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:22.720
I laughed, I cried, I hurled, And so you know,

1273
01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:24.680
I'm gonna go with our minions. I'm gonna go with

1274
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:27.319
an eight on this one. No, I'm better. Yeah, I'll

1275
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:29.640
go with it to follow and V I'll go with

1276
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:32.960
an eight point eight five just because I know I'll

1277
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:34.840
just love those decimals so much.

1278
01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:39.520
Can can I ask you a couple of questions of

1279
01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:41.680
the group, because I'm curious what you think in terms

1280
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:46.079
of Star Trek lore, so especially Charles, who's a Vulcan guy.

1281
01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:55.079
Are Vulcans logical because of their like is a baby

1282
01:22:55.159 --> 01:23:00.680
Vulcan born logical? Or are they born emotional? And then

1283
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.159
they're trained into being logical?

1284
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.359
What's your correct that that is correct?

1285
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:10.640
I think they go to the institute and are pushed

1286
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:20.399
into logic. Remember when remember when we see yes, we

1287
01:23:20.439 --> 01:23:22.640
say them in the institute when it was blown or

1288
01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:25.039
before it was blown up. How they're thrown all these

1289
01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:29.119
questions they have to follow. I think they're thrown into

1290
01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:30.520
the push to being illogical.

1291
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:36.800
So then my my follow up question was how did

1292
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:41.319
it sit with you that are our humans were instantly

1293
01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:43.680
logical without having any of that training.

1294
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:52.239
But they weren't. They weren't instantly logical though they were.

1295
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:56.319
They were human. They were human caricatures of Balkans.

1296
01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:01.199
So you think they were acting well, yeah.

1297
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:04.760
Because they weren't. Really they didn't have the training that

1298
01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:05.640
Spock had.

1299
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:11.119
Well, and if I can add, they all brought something

1300
01:24:12.079 --> 01:24:15.880
to their vulcaneness for lack of a better term, that

1301
01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:19.319
was part of them. Like Hourrah said that she can

1302
01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:25.119
communicate better than she normally has. Christine Chappel, who is

1303
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:30.800
you know, into you know, science and doing uh experiments

1304
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:34.079
and everything, that's all she did. And so they each

1305
01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:36.840
brought something of themselves into it.

1306
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:37.680
So it was like.

1307
01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:42.880
Absolutely, but did they not display an affect of logic

1308
01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:47.239
using using words like that's not logical and that sort

1309
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:49.079
of thing. That was the That was the way I

1310
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:52.119
read their characters in the episode was that they were

1311
01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:57.199
essentially they were essentially trying to be vulcan and that

1312
01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:01.439
that wasn't an act that by getting the shot, they

1313
01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:05.399
had become you know, logical creatures, albeit with their own

1314
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:08.199
you know spins on the characters based on their.

1315
01:25:09.800 --> 01:25:13.479
You know, every bit of information the show has given us.

1316
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.279
Every bit of description. It says they become vulcans. They're

1317
01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:20.159
not being humans acting like their vulcans. That's absolutely not

1318
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:23.319
what's going on. There's this crazy suspension of disbelief required,

1319
01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:25.920
but all of a sudden, the just everything is transformed

1320
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:29.199
about them, like you know, like your step very godmother,

1321
01:25:29.319 --> 01:25:31.319
did you know it's ridiculous?

1322
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:34.239
Well, and yeah, right before you got on, Paul, my

1323
01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:37.000
first question was do did the do the tre experts

1324
01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.840
think that vulcans are born logical or are they trained?

1325
01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:42.640
And we all agree they're trained, right, They're they're born

1326
01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.319
super emotional and then they're trained. And so in the

1327
01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:48.760
absence of that training, like that, if there had been

1328
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:51.039
like a mental download, right, like they hook into the

1329
01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:53.800
computer or something and like vulcan stuff like pours into

1330
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:57.520
their brain or something and that's what makes them logical. Okay,

1331
01:25:57.640 --> 01:26:01.880
I you know, I get that. Okay, Yeah, Just I'm

1332
01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:04.159
not trying to like convince anybody over to my side.

1333
01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:06.199
I'm just I was I wanted to ask that question

1334
01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:11.159
because it's that initial kind of suspension of disbelief that

1335
01:26:11.239 --> 01:26:13.479
for me all really pulled me out of the episode

1336
01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:17.159
because I'm like, well, they can't even really be vulcans

1337
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:19.319
by getting a shot. Right, if you look at all

1338
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:23.279
the other episodes where people change races, they have to

1339
01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:27.560
fight back their own tendencies. Right, You're not instantly a romulin.

1340
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:29.760
When you get the romulin shot and you turn romulin,

1341
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:32.560
you're still a human. You're just kind of trying to

1342
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:36.000
act romulin. Yeah, but Jim's saying that they were acting though,

1343
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:38.960
Is that what you're saying, Jim, Yeah.

1344
01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:39.800
They're they're.

1345
01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:42.560
They're humans.

1346
01:26:43.800 --> 01:26:47.319
Portraying what a human thinks a vulcan should be. They're

1347
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:49.920
not true vulcans because they didn't go through the training,

1348
01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:52.720
They didn't go through the Why are they acting that

1349
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:57.920
way because that's their perception of what a vulcan would be, Like,

1350
01:26:58.720 --> 01:26:59.560
they're putting.

1351
01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:01.560
Motivated mean to do that. Why are they Why are

1352
01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:03.880
they behaving that way? Because they look that way.

1353
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:06.039
Because they because they got the shot.

1354
01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:09.479
That impacting them psychologically.

1355
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:13.680
Then it's it's making you know, a horror more of

1356
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:17.640
a communicator in an intelligent way. It's making on take

1357
01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:21.359
over the universe because she's related to con It's magnifying

1358
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:24.119
what they already have in them.

1359
01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:35.920
I think it did affect their own controus. Yeah, okay,

1360
01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:39.079
and that's why we needed to help to actually separate

1361
01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:44.199
them from their vulcans, because they were so caught up

1362
01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:47.680
that their co they were their contras ch actually changed.

1363
01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:52.920
Well Spock's Spock said that their contra would remain human

1364
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:56.840
and that they didn't desire to be human vulcans before,

1365
01:27:56.960 --> 01:27:59.760
so their cutra would still remain human, which I think

1366
01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:02.119
come back to what Eric is talking about. Their contra

1367
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:07.920
isn't vulcan. They're They're still human. They're not even though

1368
01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:09.560
they got the shot and had years.

1369
01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:13.000
Look at how McCoy acted when we when he had

1370
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:16.359
spoked cotra in him.

1371
01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:23.600
He had, yes, the vulcan neck pinch and ended up

1372
01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:24.039
in jail.

1373
01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:27.159
Yep.

1374
01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:30.640
So the one thing we didn't really talk about is

1375
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:33.079
how disappointed is everybody that Betel hasn't turned into a

1376
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:33.640
gorn yet.

1377
01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:39.520
Yeah. I was kind of hoping, you know, we.

1378
01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:40.000
Have a tail.

1379
01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:42.960
Yeah, the two of them in her tails, hanging out

1380
01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:44.880
of their sheets, right, that's all I want I would have.

1381
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:48.079
Hasn't happened. We just haven't seen it.

1382
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:50.800
You've seen the full body, but dell Man, I mean,

1383
01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:52.560
we've seen her clothes on, but we've seen her full

1384
01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:54.880
like feet tohead and she has no tail.

1385
01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:59.000
Well, there are the gor and eggs that are behind

1386
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:00.560
the toilet and the cap quarters.

1387
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:01.680
We didn't see those.

1388
01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:05.880
Even they revealed in episode nine.

1389
01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:10.439
So Charles, how did we fare next to our Trek

1390
01:29:10.520 --> 01:29:12.279
spurts with our minions?

1391
01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:17.039
Well, this was interesting because Eric talked about this was

1392
01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:23.279
the second highest episode scored by our minions at an

1393
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:28.600
eight point eight. This episode is the Trek Experts lowest

1394
01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:34.199
score at a seven point two. This is our lowest

1395
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:37.600
rating of the season so far.

1396
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:44.600
Thanks, it should be more like a pot donald one.

1397
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:48.680
Allow, I'd like to change my vote where.

1398
01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:51.600
That's funny?

1399
01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:52.600
All right?

1400
01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:55.960
Well, guys, that wraps up our conversation on four and

1401
01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:58.600
a half of vulcans. And you know what time it

1402
01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:19.119
is now time for Star Trek Birthday.

1403
01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:20.960
That was not a clean on song.

1404
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:23.279
All right, guys, this is a part of the show

1405
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:26.359
where we remember those members of our Star Trek family

1406
01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:29.239
who's sadly enough, are no longer with us. And for

1407
01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:31.920
that returned to Eric tonight.

1408
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:35.239
Our first remembrance goes out to actor Christopher Collins, the

1409
01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:38.079
actor and comedian who made four appearances on Star Trek.

1410
01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:41.119
The Next Generation and Deep Space nine. He appeared as

1411
01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:46.479
Dirg in Deep Space nine's The Passenger, the Albinos headguard

1412
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:52.640
in DS nine Blood Oath, Greb Long in TNG's Samaritan Snare,

1413
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:56.680
and Captain Cargan in a Matter of Honor, who also

1414
01:30:56.760 --> 01:31:00.720
has a marginal but totally playable car in Star Trek

1415
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:04.000
Attack Wing. The majority of collins television work consisted of

1416
01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:08.600
voiceover rolls on animated television shows, particularly those of Cobra

1417
01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:11.600
Commander on g I Joe and Star Scream on The

1418
01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:16.239
Transformers from back in the mid eighties. Very recognizable voice,

1419
01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:19.319
little known. In fact, he actually was the original Montgomery

1420
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:24.079
Burns and Mo on The Simpsons too, but eventually other people, yeah,

1421
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:28.439
Harry Shear would come to be of course mister Burns

1422
01:31:28.439 --> 01:31:31.920
and A Gazaria took over for Mo, but Collins was

1423
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:35.560
the OG for both. So unfortunately we lost Christopher Collins

1424
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.680
at the very young age of forty four years old.

1425
01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:40.000
My research tells me something to do with his brain,

1426
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:42.880
but may back in nineteen ninety four.

1427
01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:47.680
So happy birthday, Yeah, brank of flaming drink of flaming

1428
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:48.760
mo in his honor.

1429
01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:53.239
Absolutely happy birthday to Christopher Collins. Here's to you, buddy.

1430
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:57.640
Happy birthday as well to Evelyn F. Eve Smith, the

1431
01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:00.880
actress who played the Elderly Patient and the Mercy Hospital

1432
01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:03.960
on Star Trek for The Voyage Home. She lived to

1433
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.319
be ninety one years old. In fact, her first acting

1434
01:32:07.439 --> 01:32:11.079
role wasn't until she was forty years old in nineteen

1435
01:32:11.159 --> 01:32:13.760
forty five. That's right, she was born nineteen oh five.

1436
01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:17.640
She landed her first acting credit appearing in the film

1437
01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:22.960
Caesar and Cleopatra, which also course starred Gene Simmons. No,

1438
01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:27.399
not that one, Jim the other one. Smith began work

1439
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:31.239
as a stand up comedian in the seventies, and then

1440
01:32:31.279 --> 01:32:34.479
she didn't have another screen role for another forty years

1441
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:38.079
when she appeared in nineteen eighty two on Cheers. So

1442
01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:42.359
kind of an interesting acting career. Mostly spent time as

1443
01:32:42.399 --> 01:32:45.960
a comedian. Eve Smith lost back in nineteen ninety seven

1444
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:47.720
at the rip old age of ninety one years old.

1445
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:51.880
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday as well to Noble Willingham,

1446
01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:55.720
the actor who played Texas in the Next Generation second

1447
01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:59.520
season episode The Royal. That's right, big big hat there.

1448
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:02.479
He's best known for his role as CD Parker on

1449
01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:05.800
the television series Walker Texas Ranger. I know Jim's a

1450
01:33:05.800 --> 01:33:09.560
big fan of that show. His many other TV credits

1451
01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:14.760
include guess what, mostly Westerns, Bonanza's gun Smokes, things like

1452
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:17.439
that was on The Dukes of Hazzard, the a team

1453
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:21.560
he co starred with Scott Bakula and Dean Stockwell. Might

1454
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:24.560
notice that duo in a nineteen ninety one episode of

1455
01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:29.039
Quantum Leap. So Happy Birthday to Noble Willingham lost back

1456
01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:31.159
in two thousand and four at the age of seventy two.

1457
01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:35.479
Happy Birthday as well to Venita Wolf, the actors who

1458
01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:38.640
appeared as Yeoman Teresa Ross on the original series first

1459
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:43.439
season episode The Squire of Gothos. Very short stint on

1460
01:33:43.479 --> 01:33:47.279
television here just the late sixties shows like The Flying

1461
01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:50.800
Nun and the Monkeys Once Again. Gun Smoke had just

1462
01:33:51.039 --> 01:33:57.119
one film credit in the movie Catalina caeper Beach Movie,

1463
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:01.800
of Course, and then basically just quickly abandoned her marriage

1464
01:34:01.800 --> 01:34:05.119
career and went on to do other things. Marriage career,

1465
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:08.439
her acting career. I was reading that she was married

1466
01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:11.920
to Lawrence Taylor Tatum the Third aka Skip Taylor, So

1467
01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:15.199
if you know who that is, she was his last

1468
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:18.640
Fanita Wolf lost back in twenty fourteen. Happy Birthday to her.

1469
01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:22.520
Happy Birthday to Harry Landers, the actor who played Arthur

1470
01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:27.119
Coleman in the TOS third season episode Turnabout Intruder. He,

1471
01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:29.199
of course, is best known for his regular role as

1472
01:34:29.239 --> 01:34:32.800
doctor Ted Hoffman on the popular nineteen sixties medical drama

1473
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:36.800
Ben Casey, part which he reprised for the series nineteen

1474
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:41.039
eighty eight reunion movie The Return of Ben Casey. Had

1475
01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:42.960
a couple other b movies in there, but that was

1476
01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:46.399
pretty much his acting career. Harry Landers lost back in

1477
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:50.800
twenty seventeen at ninety six years old. Way to go, Harry,

1478
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:55.039
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthdays well to Reggie Analder,

1479
01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:58.640
the actor who played Ambassador Shrass in the TOS second

1480
01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:02.239
season episode Journey to Babel, Our very first and Dorian

1481
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:05.319
that we get to see. He was born Alfred Reginald

1482
01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:08.600
Nasler in Vienna, which is why he has that kind

1483
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:12.560
of vaguely german Esque accent. As an Andrian. There, he

1484
01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:15.680
was often cast in villainous roles due to his unique

1485
01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:18.079
facial features, which you can see there on the screen,

1486
01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:21.359
the result of disfiguring burns to the lower part of

1487
01:35:21.359 --> 01:35:24.600
his face that he acquired unfortunately as a young man,

1488
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:29.039
also appeared in several movies, including The Manchurian Candidate, nineteen

1489
01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:32.359
seventy nine's TV adaptation of Salem's Lot, which we've talked

1490
01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:35.720
about before on this podcast, all of the best TV

1491
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:39.479
movies ever. And he was also a sadistic witch burner

1492
01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:44.199
in nineteen seventies Mark of the Devil, Happy Birthday Reggie Nalder,

1493
01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:47.119
and last but not least, on our remembrance list, this week,

1494
01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:50.960
we remember Merret Buttrick, the American actor best known for

1495
01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.640
his role, of course, as David Marcus in Star Trek two,

1496
01:35:53.720 --> 01:35:56.800
The Wrath of Kahn and Star Trek three The Search

1497
01:35:56.880 --> 01:36:00.960
for Spock, with his photo appearing, of course on Kirk's

1498
01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:04.880
credenza there in Star Trek six The Undiscovered Country two

1499
01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:09.239
years after he died. He later played to John in

1500
01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:13.800
The Next Generation first season episode Symbiosis. His first major

1501
01:36:13.880 --> 01:36:17.600
role on television was playing a character named Johnny Slash

1502
01:36:17.800 --> 01:36:22.560
in the sitcom Square Pegs from the early eighties. Had

1503
01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:25.680
a couple other movies here and there. You'll notice that

1504
01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:28.399
all of his ACNE credits happened between like nineteen eighty

1505
01:36:28.399 --> 01:36:31.479
two and nineteen eighty eight because unfortunately we lost him

1506
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:35.000
when he was only twenty nine years old. He died

1507
01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:40.199
from toxoplasmosis, a complication brought on by his AIDS diagnosis.

1508
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:45.520
So Merritt, Buttrick died way too young. Unfortunately, we miss you.

1509
01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:49.560
Happy birthday, lots of love and remembrances going out and

1510
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:52.239
that you guys does it for our remembrances this week.

1511
01:36:52.520 --> 01:36:54.960
So I'm going to pass my flaming birthday candle over

1512
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:55.920
to Charles.

1513
01:36:56.560 --> 01:37:01.880
Thank you, Eric A start off with Jeff Austin, actress

1514
01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:06.319
who played the bowleyan security officer in DS nine Thursdays

1515
01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:11.199
in episode The Adversary and Olos in Voyager's fourth season

1516
01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:18.800
episode in the Omega directive. Happy birthday, Brion Gorman, actress

1517
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:24.159
who played Lieutenant Curtis as the attendant curs attached A

1518
01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:29.880
in Star Trek Insurrection. Happy birthday to Elaine ware Gear,

1519
01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:36.840
actress who played Kyla mar in Star Trek's Nextduration fifth

1520
01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:44.920
season episode Silicon Avatar. Happy birthday to Michael Berryman, actress

1521
01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:48.760
who played Starflake display officer in Star Trek for the

1522
01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:53.359
Voyage Home and Captain Rick's Instruction Next Necturation first season

1523
01:37:53.399 --> 01:38:00.279
episode Conspiracy, and Happy Birthday to Amy. Lindsay actress played

1524
01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:06.279
Lana and Surtdreg Voyagers seventh season episode Endgame, Paul, Who's

1525
01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:07.079
on your list?

1526
01:38:09.239 --> 01:38:12.159
Charles? Just making sure my audio is okay, guys, because

1527
01:38:12.159 --> 01:38:17.159
it's been very inconsistent tonight. Anybody.

1528
01:38:17.439 --> 01:38:24.960
Uh oh, well, I think we lost Paul's audio.

1529
01:38:26.199 --> 01:38:32.479
Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yes, I'm

1530
01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:35.800
gonna attempt If if it cuts out, just let me

1531
01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:40.239
know and I'll just get the hell out of here. Exhausting, Okay,

1532
01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:41.079
happy birthday.

1533
01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:43.800
We lost Paul again, motherfucker.

1534
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:51.279
Technical difficulties. Well, v would you like to jump in

1535
01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:52.199
for Paul here?

1536
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:54.880
And I want to add I want to add real

1537
01:38:54.960 --> 01:39:00.880
quick because Ellen Gear her father was Will Gear, who

1538
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:08.000
was Grandpa Walton. So wow, yep, mm hmm, all right,

1539
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:12.680
not know that, yep, all right. So we have Lycia Naff.

1540
01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:18.600
She played Sonia Gomez in the TG second episode Q

1541
01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:23.279
Who and Samaritan Snare and one of those is where

1542
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.960
she bumped into Picard and spilled the I think it

1543
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:29.680
was hot chocolate all over him.

1544
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:31.399
So that was her.

1545
01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:35.079
That was her deal voice the character in the Lower

1546
01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:39.159
Decks second season episode First First Contact.

1547
01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:41.279
She also has a.

1548
01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:44.760
I can't remember what I think she works. She has

1549
01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:48.520
a charity where she helps people in need, so that's

1550
01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:49.600
good to know about her.

1551
01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:55.960
Now we have Arnold Lessing. Gosh, she's eighty nine.

1552
01:39:56.640 --> 01:40:01.079
Wow, good age actor who played Red Shirt security guard

1553
01:40:01.239 --> 01:40:07.119
womp Wamp in TOS second episode The Changeling. Next we

1554
01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:13.199
have Anthony call born nineteen forty August of nineteen forty.

1555
01:40:13.960 --> 01:40:17.920
He played Dave Bailey in the TOS first season episode

1556
01:40:18.119 --> 01:40:24.560
The Corbamite Maneuver. Next we have Padma Lakshmi born in

1557
01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:30.520
first of September nineteen seventy, the actress who played Kataima

1558
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:36.840
in the enterprise second season episode Precious Cargo. Then, lastly,

1559
01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:42.560
happy birthday to Virginia Aldridge as the former actress who

1560
01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:46.600
paired as Lieutenant Karen Tracy in The Star Trek the

1561
01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:52.479
Original series second season episode Wolf in the Fold. All right,

1562
01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:53.640
onto you, Jim.

1563
01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:59.000
Well, I'd like to save the Klingons for last. Yeah,

1564
01:40:59.039 --> 01:41:02.840
so these first two the I have aren Yeah, exactly Klingon's,

1565
01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:06.000
but they're close. It is why I grabbed them. So

1566
01:41:06.399 --> 01:41:10.399
we want to say happy birthday to Deborah van Vulkenberg.

1567
01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:14.880
I met her at a Warriors Convention, and she was awesome.

1568
01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:20.199
She played Detective Preston and Deep Space nine third season

1569
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:24.039
episode Past Tense and Past Tense Part two. But as

1570
01:41:24.119 --> 01:41:26.479
I said, I think she's best known as playing Mercy

1571
01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:31.600
in the nineteen seventy nine classic The Warriors and Happy

1572
01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:34.560
Birthday to Deborah. She could easily be a Klingon and

1573
01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:39.640
kick your butt, So Happy Birthday to Deborah van Vulcanburg.

1574
01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:46.399
The next one Michael Dante. He's the American actor, stage,

1575
01:41:46.439 --> 01:41:50.560
screen director, and former professional athlete. He appears as Mob

1576
01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:55.039
and the TOS second season episode Friday's Child. Definitely could

1577
01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:58.119
be a Klingon. We had him on the podcast. You

1578
01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:01.319
guys can go to truck Talking dot com and you

1579
01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:04.239
can find the interview we did with him. He was

1580
01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:08.399
awesome and his wife was incredible too, So go and

1581
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:11.199
check that out. Happy Birthday and there he is, with

1582
01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:14.439
that squirrely little kling On there that everybody seems to

1583
01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:18.760
forget about. I forgot that dude's name, but uh, Mob

1584
01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:22.119
takes him out because he's a squirrely little Klingon. So

1585
01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:27.239
Happy Birthday to Michael Dante. Okay, now we're going to

1586
01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:30.760
get into some Klingons. We want to say cup lah

1587
01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:34.439
to John Eric Bentley. He's the actor who appears as

1588
01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:37.039
the Klingon officer in the Deep Space nine seventh season

1589
01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:38.560
episode Chaimera.

1590
01:42:39.079 --> 01:42:40.680
And there he is right there with.

1591
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:44.760
Odo, and he looks like he's about to, uh, well,

1592
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:46.720
he drank too much kling On blood wine or maybe

1593
01:42:46.720 --> 01:42:48.199
it was too much prune juice. I don't know what

1594
01:42:48.319 --> 01:42:51.880
that face is, but but there he is in all

1595
01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:56.359
of his kling On glory. Happy birthday to John Bentley.

1596
01:42:57.159 --> 01:43:01.119
And last on my list, we have have a major Klingon.

1597
01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:05.800
We want to say happy birthday and capla to Rosanna Desto.

1598
01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:09.319
She's the actress from San Jose, California, who played as

1599
01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:13.760
a boor in Star Trek sixty Undiscovered Country. She became

1600
01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:19.199
the chancellor of the Klingons and which is odd because

1601
01:43:20.159 --> 01:43:23.159
you know, Larsa and Betorre were told that women can't

1602
01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.399
serve on the council. Yet as at Bor becomes the

1603
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:27.319
head of the council.

1604
01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:28.000
I don't know.

1605
01:43:28.680 --> 01:43:34.960
But anyways, Happy birthday and kapla to Rosanna DeSoto. And that,

1606
01:43:35.199 --> 01:43:39.439
my friends, wraps up our Star Trek birthdays. And we

1607
01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:43.319
do have a little bit of Star Trek News to

1608
01:43:43.439 --> 01:43:45.720
get to So what do you say we jump right

1609
01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:47.279
into our felt try already.

1610
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:50.039
One message from Starfleet coming in on secure channel.

1611
01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:56.560
Incoming transmission, enter authorization code, command codes verified.

1612
01:43:57.560 --> 01:43:59.720
Define parameters of program.

1613
01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:02.720
Level nine authorization required.

1614
01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:03.680
Specify parameters.

1615
01:44:05.119 --> 01:44:06.800
Transfer updata is complete.

1616
01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:10.279
A blank alert, A blank alert.

1617
01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:13.479
All right, So this is our Star Trek News.

1618
01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:15.760
You can find all these stories in their entirety at

1619
01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:17.840
Trek Talking and beyond on Facebook.

1620
01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:20.159
Eric, you get our first story.

1621
01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:22.680
All right, We're gonna cruise through this because I want

1622
01:44:22.720 --> 01:44:24.840
to get to the toys we have our Shatner says

1623
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:28.600
would Segment and Star Trek William Shatner, ninety four shares

1624
01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:33.479
a message of support. This man so inconsistent for LGBTQ

1625
01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:36.399
plus fans. You never know how he's gonna say. That's

1626
01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:39.399
one days over here, one days over here. The ninety

1627
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:41.159
four year old, who is best known for playing Captain

1628
01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:43.600
James T. Kirk in the Star Trek franchise, attended the

1629
01:44:43.640 --> 01:44:48.640
annual Star Trek Las Vegas convention earlier this month, where

1630
01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:54.000
he urged his LGBTQ plus fans to keep on queer in.

1631
01:44:54.760 --> 01:44:56.840
Shatner made it clear that he is a supporter of

1632
01:44:56.880 --> 01:45:00.560
the community. I'm so tired of presentism and people who

1633
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:05.039
continue to place today's value system on the past to judge.

1634
01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:09.520
They cannot comprehend that the fact they have the freedom

1635
01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:12.199
to judge is because of what brave people did in

1636
01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:16.239
the past. Education needs a wake up call. Ursa right

1637
01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:19.119
of the Lambda quadrant to a group dedicated to promoting

1638
01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:23.800
queer representation in fandom said of LGBTQ plus representation among

1639
01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:26.800
Star Trek fans. Quote many many people come up to

1640
01:45:26.920 --> 01:45:29.239
us at the table and say that historically they have

1641
01:45:29.439 --> 01:45:32.800
not felt comfortable expressing their full and true selves even

1642
01:45:32.920 --> 01:45:36.319
here in the fandom. We are the one table in

1643
01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:39.399
the whole place with big rainbows everywhere. So people for

1644
01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:42.039
a long time, they come up and they tell us

1645
01:45:42.680 --> 01:45:45.800
that they did not actually feel safe, like they can

1646
01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:49.000
wear their Star Trek outfit, but nothing overtly expresses that

1647
01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:51.399
they would be gay or whatever it is, because they

1648
01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:54.159
still didn't feel comfortable because no one else was in

1649
01:45:54.279 --> 01:45:57.199
the space doing the thing. Which in our year of

1650
01:45:57.279 --> 01:46:00.600
the Lord, how are we still there where people feel that.

1651
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:05.359
Rachel from Nebraska said that the series meant being free

1652
01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:10.000
while couple and fan, a couple and fans. Anthony and

1653
01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:15.680
Ryan said, it meant acceptance and tolerance. So, mister Shatner,

1654
01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:19.239
thank you for representing buddy. You've said some other things

1655
01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:20.720
in the past. It seemed to make me think that

1656
01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:22.239
you were on the epper side of that. So I

1657
01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:26.640
wasn't really sure. But is he doing this just because

1658
01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:28.319
it's the popular thing to I don't know.

1659
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:32.720
I don't know either, but I appreciated it because being

1660
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:36.760
a mama bear and I have adult kids in the community,

1661
01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:40.119
and I know that it's the world can be very ugly,

1662
01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:45.000
you know, just just out of fear and ignorance is

1663
01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:49.079
really what it is. So yep, so I appreciate that.

1664
01:46:49.279 --> 01:46:51.960
And that's one more thing. If I have a chance

1665
01:46:52.079 --> 01:46:54.279
to tell them, I will say how much I appreciate that.

1666
01:46:55.439 --> 01:46:57.760
In addition to Star Trek five and.

1667
01:46:57.920 --> 01:46:59.520
Make sure you're mentioned Star Trek five.

1668
01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:09.039
Well, yes, as Captain Kirk the character once said right here,

1669
01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:11.479
there's one thing you can be sure of, mister, leave

1670
01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:14.279
any bigotry in your quarters. There's no room for that

1671
01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:15.119
on the bridge.

1672
01:47:16.279 --> 01:47:16.760
I love that.

1673
01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:19.720
It's one of my favorite lines that he did.

1674
01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:22.640
So Paul, let's talk about toys.

1675
01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:30.760
Man is the audio working friends is it here you okay,

1676
01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:35.920
I'm shocked. Frankly, you know, maybe tell William Shaton that

1677
01:47:36.159 --> 01:47:39.039
if he comes on the show here he can has

1678
01:47:39.079 --> 01:47:40.039
free like.

1679
01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:50.720
Oh damn, why is it cutting out? Why? Why is it?

1680
01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:52.600
Why is it going on and off like that?

1681
01:47:54.199 --> 01:47:56.399
That is so weird. We need to have David do

1682
01:47:56.520 --> 01:47:57.439
his miracle stuff.

1683
01:47:57.880 --> 01:48:04.239
Yeah. Uh oh, I've been myself with that issues of

1684
01:48:04.319 --> 01:48:06.960
the connection just not being stable for some reason.

1685
01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:11.159
How about now, yeah, there we go. Can I just

1686
01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:12.600
say fuck Riverside? Please?

1687
01:48:12.680 --> 01:48:13.119
Is that okay?

1688
01:48:13.439 --> 01:48:14.079
Except that now?

1689
01:48:16.239 --> 01:48:18.000
Ship not working?

1690
01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:19.319
No?

1691
01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:21.319
Yes, it's it's cutting in and out.

1692
01:48:21.319 --> 01:48:21.600
All right.

1693
01:48:22.199 --> 01:48:23.680
We can hear you sometimes, but not all the time.

1694
01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:24.439
All right, it's not worth it.

1695
01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:24.960
I'm out.

1696
01:48:26.199 --> 01:48:33.359
Uh sorry, buddy. Sorry, Well I'll read it, but I

1697
01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:36.000
I won't be able to do it. Justice Paul, as

1698
01:48:36.039 --> 01:48:38.640
we know, is our is our toy guy. But I'll

1699
01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:41.720
read this. EXO six Recruits Captain Philip is your Joe

1700
01:48:42.319 --> 01:48:46.479
to its Star Trek six scale action figure collection, introducing

1701
01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:50.319
the EXO six Star Trek Discovery. Captain Philip is Yourgo

1702
01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:54.039
six scale museum grade figure in the Star Trek universe.

1703
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:58.199
Georgio stands as a commanding beacon of leadership and moral complexity,

1704
01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:02.039
captain of the Iss sen You, who steers her crew

1705
01:49:02.119 --> 01:49:06.760
through perilous missions and ethical crossroads with unwavering resolve. Her

1706
01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:09.800
journey from a respected Starfleet captain navigating the front lines

1707
01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:13.319
of Discovery to a crucial figure who embodies both formidable

1708
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:18.520
regality and deep human vulnerability has left an indelible mark

1709
01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:23.680
on Star Trek history. The authentic likeness to world famous

1710
01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:27.600
Oscar winner Michelle Yoe captures not only Georgia's formidable presence,

1711
01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:33.119
but also her transformative arc, including Yo's iconic dual role

1712
01:49:33.239 --> 01:49:37.039
as Emperor Georgio in the Mirror Universe, a pivot that

1713
01:49:37.239 --> 01:49:41.279
reshapes the mythos and underscored the characters, enduring it importance

1714
01:49:41.399 --> 01:49:45.920
across the franchise. Dressed in the authentic first season uniform,

1715
01:49:46.319 --> 01:49:49.479
the six scale figure is rendered with meticulous attention to

1716
01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:54.720
the costumes, colors, texture, and insignia reflecting Georgia's command during

1717
01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:58.680
season one of Star Trek Discovery. The figure arrives fully

1718
01:49:58.800 --> 01:50:02.720
equipped to recreates some of the character's most memorable moments,

1719
01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:05.880
including the essential tools needed for a Starfleet away mission.

1720
01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:10.319
She comes with a phaser, tricorder and communicator that she

1721
01:50:10.439 --> 01:50:14.520
can equip to her tactical belt. A sturdy support base

1722
01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:19.439
provides secure, stable display, enabling dynamic poses. This one six

1723
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:22.840
scale museum grade Georgio figure brings a hero's journey to

1724
01:50:22.960 --> 01:50:29.359
your collection, blending screen, accurate costuming, faithful likeness, and premium craftsmanship.

1725
01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:33.840
It celebrates her courageous leadership, the moral complexity she embodies,

1726
01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:36.920
and the lasting impact of her story within Star Trek's

1727
01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:42.119
rich history. Limited production runs may apply. Secure your Captain

1728
01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:45.720
Philippe Giorgio figure today and honor the character whose presence

1729
01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:51.039
helped redefine Star Trek's exploration of leadership, legacy, and identity.

1730
01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:54.880
Available to pre order now, priced at two hundred and

1731
01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:59.119
fifteen dollars, which sounds like a lot, but remember these

1732
01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:01.880
are a museum figures. In fact, I think you can

1733
01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:05.840
see my Crew one six figure right up here on

1734
01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:08.039
my top shelf, and I will tell you that the

1735
01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:14.560
attention to detail is amazing. They do come with incredible accessories.

1736
01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:19.119
The stitching on the uniforms is fantastic. You can see

1737
01:51:19.279 --> 01:51:23.119
the embossing of the Starfleet Delta there on the rib areas,

1738
01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:26.960
just like in the show. You know, I think if

1739
01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:30.000
Paul were here, he would tell you how unique these

1740
01:51:30.039 --> 01:51:32.079
figures are in the toy world and how good of

1741
01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:35.359
a job Exo six does on these things, and they're

1742
01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:37.760
really stunning to look at. If you can afford the

1743
01:51:37.800 --> 01:51:41.720
scratch Man and you want to honor Giorgio's legacy, I

1744
01:51:42.159 --> 01:51:44.000
can't think of a better way to do it than

1745
01:51:44.319 --> 01:51:45.920
having this thing as part of your collection.

1746
01:51:47.880 --> 01:51:51.640
I'm not sure are they part of this huge tariff

1747
01:51:51.720 --> 01:51:54.600
thing or are they Do they come from the United States?

1748
01:51:55.920 --> 01:51:58.479
They do come from overseas, and I think that that's

1749
01:51:58.520 --> 01:52:01.720
why the cost is a bit higher. I believe that

1750
01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:05.399
back in the day, mister Siu here was more in

1751
01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:09.720
that like one fifty one sixty range. So, uh, they're

1752
01:52:09.720 --> 01:52:11.880
probably fifty sixty bucks more than they used to be.

1753
01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:14.880
Thank you for the tariffs.

1754
01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:17.079
Yeah, thanks for nothing.

1755
01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:21.239
Thank you for the terriffs the citizens dry to make

1756
01:52:21.279 --> 01:52:24.079
the rich rich. But yeah, anyway, you could see all

1757
01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:26.319
kinds that comes with all sorts of hands and stuff there,

1758
01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:29.119
so you could put her in various poses. Saru has

1759
01:52:29.159 --> 01:52:32.359
a has a little transporter pad that looks just like

1760
01:52:32.439 --> 01:52:33.840
that one that you just saw in that picture a

1761
01:52:33.920 --> 01:52:39.119
second ago that was by Yeah, this thanks David. This

1762
01:52:39.359 --> 01:52:42.119
This shows you a really good view of what her

1763
01:52:42.159 --> 01:52:45.640
accessories look like. There's the tri quarter, there's the communicator

1764
01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:48.640
that and these things are like they actually move. So

1765
01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:53.840
the little thing flips up the it's the phaser, you see,

1766
01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:56.920
the hand phaser. The little hand phaser thing actually clips

1767
01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:59.720
into the top of the Type two phaser and then

1768
01:52:59.720 --> 01:53:02.279
the little click goes in the bottom. So it's like,

1769
01:53:02.680 --> 01:53:05.239
you know, there's a lot of variety here of things

1770
01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:08.439
you can do with these figures, and and that pose

1771
01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:11.279
right there, you know, I don't know specifically if that's

1772
01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:16.119
a you know, rendering or not, but it's a very

1773
01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:18.920
realistic pose that you could do with a figure of

1774
01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:19.800
this caliber.

1775
01:53:22.279 --> 01:53:27.439
All right, Michael, of this of this same collection, and

1776
01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:30.079
she's very impressive.

1777
01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:39.640
Cool mm hmm.

1778
01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:48.199
Too bad that Paul wasn't here. He would have really

1779
01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:49.640
I put this story.

1780
01:53:49.399 --> 01:53:50.560
In just for Paul.

1781
01:53:51.920 --> 01:53:53.760
All right, V Well you get to wrap up the

1782
01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:54.840
show this week.

1783
01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:55.479
All right.

1784
01:53:56.520 --> 01:54:01.239
Star Trek Lower Decks wins a Hugo Award thirty years

1785
01:54:01.399 --> 01:54:09.439
after TNG it's let's see sorry my brain is broken. Yeah,

1786
01:54:09.520 --> 01:54:12.079
Star Trek Lower Decks is now a Hugo Award winner

1787
01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:17.199
over thirty years since Star Trek TNG won that prestigious prize.

1788
01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:21.840
Since nineteen fifty three, the World Science Fiction Society has

1789
01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:27.840
awarded the best in science fiction and fantasy. Previous Star

1790
01:54:27.960 --> 01:54:32.720
Trek Hugo winners were Star Trek The Original series The

1791
01:54:32.920 --> 01:54:37.479
Menagerie and Star Trek TG series Finale All Good Things.

1792
01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:39.079
Star Trek.

1793
01:54:39.159 --> 01:54:43.920
Lower Decks creator and showrunner Mike McMahon took to Blue

1794
01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:47.199
Sky to announce the show's Hugo Award win for Lower

1795
01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:53.359
Decks the Finale The Next The New Next Generation. Lower

1796
01:54:53.439 --> 01:54:58.199
Decks beat out Doctor Who, Fallout and Agatha All Along

1797
01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:01.600
for the Hugo, which which is an even more impressive

1798
01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:06.279
feat for the animated comedy. Winning a Hugo is my dream.

1799
01:55:07.399 --> 01:55:10.520
So my dad surprised us and passed away in two

1800
01:55:10.560 --> 01:55:15.199
thousand and three due to complications with childhood polio. He

1801
01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:18.399
was the best guy in the world. After I lost him,

1802
01:55:18.439 --> 01:55:21.359
I was pretty messed up. Part of that was I

1803
01:55:21.479 --> 01:55:25.119
couldn't remember any novels I read. I read a lot,

1804
01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:28.720
and I was finding that I couldn't retain anything anymore

1805
01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:33.520
except for sci fi books. For some reason, sci Fi

1806
01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:36.920
old and new was sticking with me. I could actually

1807
01:55:37.039 --> 01:55:40.840
remember what I had read. Then I started rewatching TG

1808
01:55:41.039 --> 01:55:46.359
on DVD. At the same time, sci fi became my

1809
01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:49.199
comfort zone and Trek was a big part of that,

1810
01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:54.479
and Firefla, Bettlestar, etc. But mostly Trek. I was reading

1811
01:55:54.760 --> 01:55:59.880
everything that one or was up for Hugo of sess

1812
01:56:00.119 --> 01:56:04.279
with the new nominees each year, and celebrating when novels

1813
01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:08.720
went mainstream or hit it big by getting adapted to

1814
01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:10.039
shows or movies.

1815
01:56:10.800 --> 01:56:11.920
I read the Hugo.

1816
01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:15.760
Lists constantly and voted for a couple of years to

1817
01:56:15.800 --> 01:56:19.319
win a Hugo the same year as the amazing Ryan North,

1818
01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:22.520
and both of us were Star Trek Lower Decks. I

1819
01:56:22.760 --> 01:56:25.960
literally could not be happier. It meant so much to me,

1820
01:56:26.159 --> 01:56:29.239
So thank you who you go voters. An army of

1821
01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:33.399
talented people made Lower Decks possible, and they couldn't be

1822
01:56:33.560 --> 01:56:37.600
prouder of what we accomplished. Thank you to everyone who

1823
01:56:37.720 --> 01:56:40.960
has watched and shared and said kind things about the show.

1824
01:56:41.880 --> 01:56:42.720
Well, I love it too.

1825
01:56:44.760 --> 01:56:47.720
Star Trek Lower Decks Hugo Award win was the first

1826
01:56:47.800 --> 01:56:52.600
for the Star Trek franchise since Star Trek next Gen

1827
01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:56.840
took home a Hugo for its Classic series finale. All

1828
01:56:56.880 --> 01:57:01.760
Good things in nineteen ninety four Dex Triumph with his

1829
01:57:02.199 --> 01:57:07.479
own series Finale is a beautiful symmetry, since Mike McMahon's

1830
01:57:07.560 --> 01:57:13.079
animated comedy is a combination of and loving homage to

1831
01:57:13.359 --> 01:57:17.720
TG's twenty fourth century stories and esthetic.

1832
01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:20.720
I would agree, well.

1833
01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:25.800
Done, absolutely, And you know what's sad they canceled the show.

1834
01:57:26.039 --> 01:57:28.560
I know that's what I was gonna say, Paramount Plus,

1835
01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:30.760
you suck and they cancel it.

1836
01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:32.920
I just yes, I know that's what.

1837
01:57:33.399 --> 01:57:36.680
That's immediately what I thought when when I saw that

1838
01:57:36.800 --> 01:57:41.399
they had one say, Okay, they are right, fine, whatever, Yeah,

1839
01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:42.399
they're in charge.

1840
01:57:43.119 --> 01:57:46.399
They never asked us no book. You know what time

1841
01:57:46.479 --> 01:57:48.039
it is, it's time.

1842
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:54.039
I'm just gonna say, so I can break up at

1843
01:57:54.279 --> 01:57:55.960
five am to get on my train.

1844
01:57:57.000 --> 01:58:00.840
Yeah, you'll have fun, though, Spar says, what.

1845
01:58:01.640 --> 01:58:04.760
Yeah, Well, we want to take an opportunity to say

1846
01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:06.760
thank you for Paul for hanging out in Trek talking

1847
01:58:06.840 --> 01:58:09.560
with us. Unfortunately I put that story in for Paul,

1848
01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:12.279
but he had some technical difficulties and he had to go.

1849
01:58:12.399 --> 01:58:14.880
But thank you so much, Paul for hanging out with us.

1850
01:58:15.199 --> 01:58:17.920
We really appreciate it. Thank you so much to Charles

1851
01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:19.840
as well. For hanging out in trek talking with us.

1852
01:58:19.880 --> 01:58:23.920
Thank you Charles, then your Jim.

1853
01:58:24.039 --> 01:58:26.520
It was always fun as usual, very.

1854
01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:30.199
Cool, very logical. Did you have some cheese?

1855
01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:34.239
No cheese, No cheese?

1856
01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:37.520
And also thank you to David, our very own miracle worker, and.

1857
01:58:37.600 --> 01:58:39.399
I know that he ate some cheese.

1858
01:58:41.199 --> 01:58:43.199
I didn't want to right now.

1859
01:58:46.119 --> 01:58:48.319
And also thank you to V for hanging out in

1860
01:58:48.399 --> 01:58:49.600
Trek talking with us tonight.

1861
01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:51.600
Thank you, V. And have a play of time at

1862
01:58:51.680 --> 01:58:52.640
your Star Trek convention.

1863
01:58:52.800 --> 01:58:53.920
I will, even though.

1864
01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:56.079
I don't have any business cards to hand out.

1865
01:58:56.039 --> 01:59:02.239
But that's that's that's fine. Just mentioned Star Trek five,

1866
01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:08.520
so I gotta do. And of course, thank you so

1867
01:59:08.640 --> 01:59:10.600
much to Eric for hanging out and trek talking with

1868
01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:11.000
us tonight.

1869
01:59:11.079 --> 01:59:11.800
Thank you so much.

1870
01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:12.119
Eric.

1871
01:59:13.199 --> 01:59:13.479
You bet.

1872
01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:15.840
I was thinking about having some cheese, but apparently Porthos

1873
01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:18.840
has eaten all the cheese, so there's not too much

1874
01:59:18.880 --> 01:59:19.560
I can do about that.

1875
01:59:20.560 --> 01:59:22.840
Man, Just show me that moldy cheese like David did

1876
01:59:22.880 --> 01:59:23.479
that one time.

1877
01:59:27.479 --> 01:59:28.119
That was bad.

1878
01:59:28.239 --> 01:59:29.000
That was very bad.

1879
01:59:29.439 --> 01:59:32.359
So next week we're going to be talking about Errarium,

1880
01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:35.439
which I have already watched and is going to be

1881
01:59:35.560 --> 01:59:37.560
very enjoyable, and I'm looking forward to seeing what my

1882
01:59:37.600 --> 01:59:40.680
truck spirts have to say about that one. I like

1883
01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:42.720
to watch it once just as a fan, and then

1884
01:59:42.720 --> 01:59:45.640
I'll go back and watch it again and to review

1885
01:59:45.640 --> 01:59:48.840
it for you guys. So I'm your most excellent host,

1886
01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:51.960
Uncle Jim saying, everybody please stay safe and be good

1887
01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:55.119
to each other, and remember Star Trek fans are the

1888
01:59:55.199 --> 02:00:02.800
best fans. Good night, everybody, live long and prosper Yet.

1889
02:00:02.279 --> 02:00:04.600
All stations, I'm ready for departure, sir.

1890
02:00:08.239 --> 02:00:11.319
Some problem, righter, just something. This isn't the usual way

1891
02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:15.199
our missions will build, sir, Oh no number one. I'm

1892
02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:21.760
sure most will be much more interesting. Let's see what's

1893
02:00:21.840 --> 02:00:25.159
out there. Engage