Aug. 29, 2025

Episode 651- SNW "What Is Starfleet" Discussion

Episode 651- SNW "What Is Starfleet" Discussion
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In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the cohosts engage in a lively discussion about various aspects of Star Trek, including fan interactions, character decisions, and the portrayal of iconic characters like Scotty. They explore the ethical dilemmas faced by Starfleet, particularly in relation to Captain Pike's controversial choices. The episode also features trivia segments and community feedback, showcasing the diverse opinions of Star Trek fans. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of character development and moral questions within the Star Trek universe. In this episode, the hosts review a unique Star Trek episode presented in a documentary style, discussing its pacing, character perspectives, and the political intrigue woven throughout the narrative. They share their emotional reactions to the story, particularly regarding the creature featured in the episode. The conversation also touches on fan ratings, William Shatner's upcoming book project, and the potential return of Scott Bakula to the franchise. Overall, the discussion highlights the diverse opinions and expectations surrounding the Star Trek universe.
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I heard out, continue with the operation.

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NBC Ted everily cannot see bumblebee Kane. I'm the doctor

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wrankling online Old Bob Sam World stories that'll kist and

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turn bow to Cimita, death of Tashi Yah, Flash Gordon,

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but progs don't person clah and Wars, James Holden, Tweety,

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John Coney against Yankee.

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Talk about the series. You can join up.

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Your phone down talk about.

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The series.

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Is now so well, good evening trek Is and trek

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Is around the globe. It's Thursday, August twenty eighth, twenty

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twenty five. Welcome to episode six hundred and fifty one

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of Truk Talking. I'm your most host, excellent host, Uncle Jim,

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and with me tonight, i'd like to introduce my awesome

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trek spirts. We'll start off with Paul the toy guy.

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He's out in Portland. Are you doing tonight, Paul.

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Uncle Jim, You're okay, it's been a good day. It's

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been a good day. Ready to do a little salacious

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Gavin with your absolutely.

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And we also was Eric who guess what, he's from

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Portland as well. How you doing?

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Eric?

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Doing pretty good?

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That intro was making me think about all the stuff

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I've been reading about this upcoming new Highlander movie and

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Henry Caravell beeing Connor McLeod or the Clan McLeod or.

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He kidding me.

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I'm I'm interested interested to see where it goes. Although

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generally speaking, remakes.

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Are without shaka. I could make a I could make

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a pun there, but I'm gonna let that one go.

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And we actually it's a Russell Crowe who's going to

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take over for mister Connor's.

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And we also have from you guessed it Portland, our

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very own miracle worker himself, David. How you doing tonight, David?

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I'm doing pretty good. I got myself a tog cut.

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I noticed you got a couple of them caught.

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Doing pretty good. It's been a very day today for

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some reason, usually have been like cloudy in the last

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couple of days.

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But yeah, it's called the sun. It comes out from

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time to top. Okay, little secret, don't tell anybody, and not

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from Portland, but from Virginia. We have v with us tonight.

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How you doing tonight?

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V Right, trying not to panic, to get ready for

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that upcoming con next weekend in New Jersey. Looking forward

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to that.

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So it would be if I had to go to

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New Jersey too.

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It would be glorious.

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Okay, Just you just alienated anybody who's who's.

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We love in New Jersey.

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The only thing I got I don't like about Jersey.

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You can't get there from here.

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No, I have to take taking a train, and then

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I'm renting a car to go to the hotel where

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the con is, and I'm staying there and meeting a

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bunch of star trek stars.

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So me.

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It will be glorious, I'm sure. So before we go

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too far, I just want to let you guys know

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that you can find all of our shows and all

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kinds of great stuff at trek talkin dot com. So

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head on over there and check it out. You can

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and you can rate the episodes and just hang out

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with other like minded Star Trek fans and have fun.

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On tonight's show, we're going to discuss the strange New

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World's episode. What is Starfleet? We'll try to answer that

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question for you tonight. We also have our fans shout outs,

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and that's where we say thank you to fans all

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around the globe, just like you right there, and we

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have our polls Scotty versus Scottie h and Pike crosses

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the line. We'll see what the fans thought about that.

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What Star Trek actor do you share a birthday with?

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You'll find out on our Star Trek Birthday segment. And

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wonder what's going on around the Star Trek universe. Mister

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Shatner is back and Shatner says what and could Archer

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return to the Star Trek universe and could we possibly

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have new Star Trek action figures? Well, guess what, Paul

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the toy guy is going to fill you in on

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that one to night. So without any further ado, I'm

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going to turn things over to Eric and he's going

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to get us started with our fans shout outs. Take

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it away, Eric, all.

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Right, Jim, our first fan shout out goes over to

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that most amazing island of the UK. Stoke, England, is

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where Phil bones Kingston Hill's from, and he's sending us

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that beautiful Union Jack flag. Phil, thank you for listening

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to the podcast and thanks for supporting us in all

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the ways that you do. Appreciate it. I haven't been

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to Stoke, but I kind of feel like I want

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to go now. Thanks Phil. Also saying hello this week

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to Shelley Bell. Shelley Bell is from Tugulawa in Queensland,

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Australia down Under. Thanks Shelley for saying hey to us.

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We always appreciate support from people from the Southern Hemisphere,

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most amazing place. I also hope to go one of

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these days. Saying hello this week as well to Judith Barley,

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who hails from Berlin, Germany, a most amazing city with

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a storied history. Thank you so much, Judith for supporting

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our podcast and live long and prosper to you. And

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last but not least on my list, we're saying hello

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this week to Francesco Frascati, who, if you couldn't tell

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from the name, is from Italy. Thanks Francesco for saying

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hey to us. And I'm going to pass this big

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shout out megaphone now over to our good friend V

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A R V.

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Who do you guys have?

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First foremost Jill Meadow Smith, who says, yes, there really

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is a Kalamazoo Michigan. And Jill, I know that you

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didn't have to tell me because my ex husband was

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in the Navy and he was on the USS Kalamazoo

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so named for your beautiful city. Next we have Joey

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and I'm sorry if I mispronounces Dines from Florida, but

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don't hold that against me. I actually know how to drive, Joey.

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Have you seen how people drive in northern Virginia. Next

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we have Brian Schilders from Tulsa, Oklahoma, where the wind

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comes sweeping down the plane. Next we have Ryan Carlson

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from Omaha, Nebraska. All right, now I am sending this

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on to Paul.

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Thanks, they appreciate it, my friend. Okay, first of all,

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we've got.

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A salutation coming our way from the Emerald at Universe

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aka Ireland, where we have Maria Veronica Spano reaching out

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to us here flag proudly flapping in the wind, and Marie's.

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Letting us know. Great show, guys, from the Republic of Ireland,

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and that's fantastic, Maria. We always get a lot of

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people letting us know what they think about Star Trek,

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but very few actually weigh in and let us know

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what you think of this show, which we'd love to

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get more of. I think it would be great if

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more fans would just sort of you know, hey, what

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do you think about the format? What do you think

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about what we do on the air?

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Right?

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I think that could be a good poll question down

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the road, Uncle Jim, maybe we should dog here that

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for consideration. But Maria is pointing the way, and you

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know you don't want argue with any of it from Ireland.

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I'll tell you from personal experience. Moving on, we have

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Bob Wright saying hello. Bob is from the UK, been

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a trucky since he was a kid, which is a

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very long time ago. Jokingly, it's still a trucky and

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plays Star Trek online on his Xbox. Bob, it is

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great to hear from you, a fellow British citizen, as

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I am myself so delightful to know that your enthusiasm

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still kindles buddy. And then we're gonna move a little

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bit further off the UK zone. There into Cotton and

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proper head over to Antwerp in Belgium, where Wendy de

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Wolf is saying hello, Hello, Wendy. Wonderful to know that

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you're out there. Belgium is a fascinating place and a

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lot of interesting things going on there, and Antwerp is

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certainly full of incredible history. So good for you and

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thanks for saying hello. I'm just down the road from Wendy.

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We're gonna pop over to Zwickau Simpsony in Germany and

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see our good pal Dana Ludwig, who is also a

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big Star Trek fan and loyal follower of the show

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and a faciok page. So do pop in, folks every

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now and then. Let us know what you think of

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the show, what we're talking about. Are we out of

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our minds? Well we know that. Are we crazy? Do

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we push the needle too far or not far enough?

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You be the judge, You let us know. It's your

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voice that matters most here on track talking. Isn't that right?

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Uncle Jim?

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I couldn't agree more, Paul, I couldn't agree more. And

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I want to say thank you and hello to Jerry

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Lee who's listening to us right now in San Antonio, Texas.

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I also want to say hello and thank you to

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Rod Owens who's listening to us in Boone, Iowa. And

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Sally Doloman McCartney who's listening to us in Minnesota, US

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of A. And last, but definitely not least, our good

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friend Mindy Foster, who's listening to us right now in Naples,

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New York. And the United States of America. If you

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guys would like to hear your names mentioned, I'm a

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future fan. Shout out head over our Facebook page trek

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Talking and beyond you'll see the big livelong and prosper

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pin to the top. Tell us where you're from. Leave emojis.

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It gets my attention and more than likely we'll get

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your name mentioned and send us a picture. Like you

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guys aren't seeing the video, but there's Paul hanging out

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with a Faringhi, and there's all kinds of great pictures

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going by that you guys aren't seeing unfortunately unless you're

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a patron. But if you send us your picture, we'll

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get it right up there with all those great pictures

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as well. Just one more thing I got to say,

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let's go met swept the Phillies over the weekend and

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are making a push. So let's see what happens with

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that and best of luck. All right, guys, Well, while

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you're on our Facebook page. While you're there, you can

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also vote in our polls. And speaking of which, it's

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time to play the poll in song.

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You know me like no win what you thought about

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the show?

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Then we try to share your opinions with all of

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our minions out there because they listen worldwide.

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So tell us just what you think.

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Get together, we will alter Canar and robylin An.

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That's an awesome song. I think we got to get

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the guy that sings that song on the podcast as

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a get yeah, he can share with us. Yeah, I agree,

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you know. All right, So this is a fun part

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of the show where we just I just throw random

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questions out there, see what sticks to the wall and

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see what you guys had to say. So uh, David

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roll the tape.

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On Starfully Orders. We were holding to our side of

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the line in the Gordons so far for holding to theirs, unfortunately,

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that is where I believe our people are being held.

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I don't plan on leaving them behind.

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You want to cross the line.

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Which is why I'm not ordering any of you to

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join this mission. I'll take volunteers, but I'll go alone.

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If I have to, I will go. I want to

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do what I can to help.

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See if Captain Cantel and there's a Chample who I

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hope made it to the services, well, I.

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Certainly feel the same way.

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Not to speak for the crew, but I believe we

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all do.

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Thank you number one, Mistress Buck and Sonora. But I

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was thinking we might need the three of you, along

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with your particular skill sets here to keep us out

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of war with a Gord.

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If you're taking volunteers, I'd like to sign up.

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Last time I saw the Gorner, I was scared out.

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Of my wits, But I'd appreciate another chance to study

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A phase it.

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How else will we determine how best to kill them?

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I would like to aid study.

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I'd like them dead as much, if not more, than

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the rest of here.

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That's not enough.

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We don't know what we're walking into each own there.

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Phases might not be enough.

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I have something to mind.

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Help to transport a chief Jasionship transports still functional?

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Yes?

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Do you transport create thirty two directly to readiom Please

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authorization Pike keep Salani acknowledged Captain transporting.

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All right, so you saw the clip. What's the question, Eric?

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The question is, in the Strange New World season two

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finale Hegemony, Captain Pike violates orders spoiler alert and crosses

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the Gorn demarcation line to rescue Captain Battel. Do you

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agree with his decision? And the most surprising thing about

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the response here is that only ninety six percent of

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our responder said yes. I think we must have had

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an outlier four percent said no.

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And I would love to.

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Hear if Charles were here his diet tribe on following

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orders in the military, except of course he would totally

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agree with the ninety six percent, so as we all would, right,

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And you could say, oh, writing blah blah blah, that's why,

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of course it has to be ninety six percent. But

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like you know, this is kind of like a star

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Trek thing where they people are like, you got to

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do this stuff, and they're like, dewy though, And if

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we do it this way, isn't it more moral And

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isn't it more in the way that Starfleet would actually

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mean to respond to this thing? So yeah, of course, yes, of.

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Course well, it didn't really matter because they weren't there anyway.

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Well, and what's interesting is that, of course, like there's

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the ready room situation here where they're all talking to

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each other and there's like eight senior officers that make

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the decision for you know, two hundred and three crew

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on the ship. So I'm sure there were plenty of

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people who are like.

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No, don't cross the demarcation line. But I don't know.

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But they're following orders too, so yeah, who knows.

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Well, we're gonna look, we're gonna talk about that a

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little bit in tonight's episode. What is Starfleet? Aren't we?

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But yeah, I think I think that I think he

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did the right thing. He went after his woman. You know,

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he's not going to leave her there to to turn

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into a gorn. Come on, right, we've already seen the

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links that he would go through for her. So yeah,

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I think he did the right thing. It would have

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been a short episode, did he did, So yeah, I

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think he did the right thing. To hell with orders

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both speed ahead and damn the torpedoes.

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What do you think, Paul, Well, I think it's a

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it's a bit of a broad assessment, you know, the

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question says across the dmarcation line to rescue Captain Battell.

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If you're paying attention to that scene, it's not just

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captain Butttel. That is the justification. It's all of their crew,

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everyone who is being held a captain, So it's not

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that he's doing it is a purely personal thing because

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of his woman, as you know western he is. That

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may sound right, there's a whole bunch of their people

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and all of the other are citizens of that colony

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planet that are being held captive, So it's really you know, yes,

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she's part of that, but it's really the larger fact

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that there's this huge influx of Federation citizens and Starfleet

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crew that are at peril. So that's the justification. If

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it was just Betel herself, I doubt if he'd do it, frankly,

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but we'll never know because the show hasn't written that way.

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But really, I think there's larger stakes at play here

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than just his girlfriend. I mean, I think the questions

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have phrased a little broadly.

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Well, V, what do you think?

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Yeah, I agree with this decision because, like you said,

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there have been multiple times over the Star Trek franchise

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where a captain violated orders to rescue people. And speaking

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of military, I think it's I know they're an elite group,

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but isn't the don't the Seals don't they always say

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never leave, they never leave a man behind. So just

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for just just for Charles and his militaristic.

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That's actually the village people of the who have that slogan.

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But yeah, but like you said, it's more than just

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Captain battel and like and like very much like the Yeah,

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but also Pike knows his fate. What are they going

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to do to him? You know? That's that's worse than

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what he already knows.

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That's true.

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I mean, that's a really great point V because there's

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a whole bunch of stuff that happens in the Strange

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New Worlds wherein we know Captain Pike has this plot armor, right,

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because he already knows when he's gonna die, so he

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can get every get away with whatever the hell he wants.

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From a personal point of view, if I knew something

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like that, you know, i'd say, you know, screw screw Starfleet,

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I'm gonna go ahead and do this. What what can

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what can they do? Me?

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Hm?

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So yeah, that's that's my that's my take on it.

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All right, David. So you got the caboose on this one, buddy,

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what do you think I go?

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Now, Yeah, I have to agree with me. I also

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have to agree with Paul, and I have to agree

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with h the idea that, yeah, the it was the

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entire colony. He knows his faith. I'm just gonna have

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to say yes on it because it's just the fact that,

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you know, he Captain Pike.

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All right, that's cool. He's gonna he's gotta hang out

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with Viena and Tallos four a little bit later on

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in his life. So he's got his retirement all planned

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out already. All right, So let me see here, David,

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we have another poll question. Uh. Yeah, you want to

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roll the tape.

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Ye you're not gone, obviously you're gonna walk down too.

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My Gorn trap and the humans you detected, is that

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we box right there, programmed to send out auditory and

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pheromonal life signs at regular intervals or dimension heat signatures.

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Fool those dumb lizards and most scanners.

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Sorry, my manners.

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Montgomery Scott, at your service, Lieutenant junior grade.

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In a shuttle, you ran from the Gorn in the shuttle.

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How are you not dead?

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Firstly, a jury rigged the engines to increase the capacity.

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And secondly, well, I've figured out how to hide and

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plain sight.

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Sounds resourceful, and when I'm.

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Mad of human eating lizards come my way, I can

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get quite creative.

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Tried to knocking on the doors will be blowing it off.

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Complex balance of force fields, tractor beans and precision guided

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diodel hardwires.

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Mister Scott, I need a solution. Uh, I can manually.

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Reroot powerty and small increments that.

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Should give me something? Do it? Do it now?

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You've got roughly thirty seconds of acceleration. How is this

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supposed to be something that could help his head from

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the gone?

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If you can fix it?

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Yeah, you're here, pray if I stopped doing your job,

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your daft.

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Piece up, mister Scott.

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Everything okay, So we'll be once.

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I've form a few things out and put.

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Them back proper.

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And how long will that take to do it right?

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Two days?

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Because your ships so banged up it wasn't worth stealing.

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Well, then I need you to perform some miracles, mister Scott.

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We need engines and weapons in that order.

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I I picked an either.

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Option Okay, that is a bold and if you don't

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mind me saying highly unorthodox choice.

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All right, you saw the video that David put together

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for us, Eric, what is the question for our fans?

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Uh?

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Do you like Scottish actor Martin Quinn's take on the

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role of Montgomery Scotty Scott on Strange New Worlds? And

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I must say, David, outstanding clip show you put together there.

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Roughly one hundred percent of our responders said, of course

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I like my Martin Quinn's take because who wouldn't.

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This guy's totally rocking it.

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I got to give a lot of credit to the writers,

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but of course his performance is the thing that brings

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it to the camera. So the writing of Scotty right

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now is fantastic and Martin Quinn is totally nailing it

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as far as I'm concerned. And one of our responders

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agree with me, or rather I agree with them, what

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do you guys think?

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Have we ever had a poll with a one hundred percent?

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I don't think we ever have? Have we?

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No?

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Because usually I answer in the negative just to give

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us a little bit of parody.

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But.

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Yeah, in this case, uh was what we got?

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Eric?

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Is that one guy sometimes not on the last ball,

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but sometimes.

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How about you, Paul, what do you think do you

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like the new Scottie?

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Oh, he's terrific. Yeah, and just making sure this is

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working because the audio keeps disconnecting on me.

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So good.

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Yeah, I think he's great. He's a he's a real

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breath of fresh air. I mean, it's you know, one

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of the things that I think throughout all of performing,

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right is when you step into the shoes of a

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really iconically established character, it's super you know. I mean,

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the it's a lot to take on, right, I'm filling

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someone else's shoes, right, and he's just doing a great job.

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He's not trying to he's just bringing his own take

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to it, right. But he's not you know, imitating what

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we saw in the JJ Abrams films or anything like

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that doing does He's just being himself and doing it

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in a really great way that just, you know, I

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think nails the character, makes him likable, and I just

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think for me, the word with this Scottie is authentic.

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Right.

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He really just seems like he's really coming across in

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a really authentic and engaging way. He hasn't had a

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chance to really go broad comedy yet. But I love

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his nervous energy. Right, but he's just you know, basically

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like you know, he's like human duct tape, right. He's

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the one thing that's preventing, you know, the enterprise from

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just blowing up into a million pieces most of the time, right,

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And that's just great. It's a fun angle for him.

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So more of that if they can match the casting

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they did with Martin Quinn when they find whoever. Ultimately

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he's gonna play Lender McCoy. Wow, look at it. So

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to me, he's got the bar at the top right now,

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all other you know folks, you know that's what you

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gotta aim for, is beat this guy. So I think

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he's wonderful.

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Yeah, we just gotta you just gotta push Pelly out

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of the air lock somewhere so we can get more Scotty.

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I actually think that Pellia like Scotty, makes a Pellia

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a better character, which is one of the other cool

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things about the writing, right, Like she was kind of

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starting to get annoying, and yet as a mentor where

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she's kind of like letting him, you know, float on

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his own or get pushing him out of the nest.

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I totally dig that about her, So it's cool that

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he's made her better.

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Absolutely absolutely. How about you, V You like the new Scott?

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First off, he's adorable and just his but yeah, he

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is making that role his own with that nervous energy

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like you said, And I agree with Eric that he's

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making Pellia a more likable character because she is his

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mentor and I'm going to help him become the Montgomery

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Scott that we come to know and love. So yeah,

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I'm I'm totally but yeah, he's just I'll say it again,

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he's just adorable.

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She's uh, she's got to get him into the whiskey though,

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you know, he doesn't drink at.

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This point in his career, he doesn't drink.

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Yeah, Pelly has got to get him to krakenso some

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of that Scott, you know, so he becomes the Scotty

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that we all know and love, which I'm sure he

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will add some Sure what about it, David, You like Scotty?

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Oh yeah, I'm I I'm actually surprised of what all

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he can do to uh, you know, play the role

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of Scotty from the original. So I'm actually gonna be

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tried what they do with the other character that are

479
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:48.920
going to be coming in and if they end up

480
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:55.480
doing the reboot, I hope that they all lean him

481
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:57.000
in and it's gonna be really fun to watch.

482
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:01.400
Yeah, if that last episode was any clue as to

483
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:03.039
what they can do with it, I think it's gonna

484
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:08.279
be something special for sure. All right, guys, well are

485
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.319
we ready for some little some trivia?

486
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:14.440
And you know what that music means.

487
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.400
It's once again time to put on your thinking caps

488
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.000
and join us for Star Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim.

489
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:25.519
So we're running out of Star Trek episodes. Unfortunately, we

490
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.480
only have three left, so there's not gonna be a

491
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.920
lot more trivia with Uncle Jim unless we do Alien

492
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:35.079
trivia or Star Wars trivia whatever we happen to be

493
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:38.160
talking about. But we're gonna let the ladies go first,

494
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.319
and we're gonna start with v You ready, V Yes.

495
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:44.000
These are some really tough questions because I thought them

496
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.640
up the other night, So these are gonna be really hard.

497
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:51.559
We'll see if our listeners can keep up and do

498
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.039
better than our Trek spert. So V yes, who said

499
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:58.400
there is evil in the universe as sure as there

500
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:02.079
is good, sure is there is matter as sure as

501
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:07.480
there is, like I know that being was ancient and malevolent.

502
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.599
That was Pellia.

503
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.480
That's right, that was Pellia, So one for the truck spurts.

504
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:17.640
All right, you guys listening to.

505
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:20.160
Say, she's seen some stuff, so she knows.

506
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.279
She's she's she's old, she's older than yodare.

507
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:26.440
Yeah, she's seen some stuff.

508
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.799
We're gonna put the spotlight on you, buddy. You're ready

509
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:36.519
with your new flashy haircut. According to his log entries,

510
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:41.720
how long has ensn Dana Gamble been serving aboard the Enterprise?

511
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.559
Oh crap, uh, I want to say it was like

512
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:48.880
six months?

513
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.200
See ding ding ding ding ding ding. See truck spirts

514
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:57.079
are batting a hundred. All right, all right, Paul you ready,

515
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.599
I'm gonna toss the meatball at you. Here we go.

516
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.559
What band was Pelia a roadie for?

517
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:14.839
Yeah?

518
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:25.200
Yeah, there we go, which brings us to Eric. You're ready? Sure? Okay?

519
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:33.039
Who said your species can communicate with the dead?

520
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.599
I believe that was also Pellia talking to Ortega's right,

521
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.519
when then it.

522
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:42.240
Was it was Pellia talking Togas. But Pelly is not

523
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:43.160
the one that said it.

524
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.039
Oh did Ortigas say it?

525
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:48.000
Yes, Ortegas said it.

526
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:52.119
Okay, so Ortega's yeah, uh oh your species right, that

527
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.680
makes more sense. Yeah, I remember the conversation. Okay, yeah,

528
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:57.240
Ortegas said it to Pelia.

529
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:04.240
That's right, all right, you're ready. Okay, this is who said,

530
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.680
I'm glad I lived through the nineteen eighties.

531
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:14.559
You no, I know you give give me something, that's yeah,

532
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:16.400
once again, Pellia.

533
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:19.960
Yeah, what the hell I must have I must have

534
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:23.759
just had Pellia on the brain. Wow.

535
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.400
Next, give me something that challenges me.

536
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:33.400
Man, I know it's so so David with skills, we

537
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.920
know the thing, we know the themes. Gus So David,

538
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.559
what does Pellia pull out of her chest that she

539
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:46.200
refers to as creepy looking? Wait? Her chest?

540
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:46.920
Wait?

541
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.480
Wait, she had that? She had that chest full of

542
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.480
stuff chest.

543
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:01.400
I want to say it was, Oh my goodness, she

544
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.680
had so much stuff in there. I saw a telephone,

545
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:05.079
I saw a game thing.

546
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:31.839
Uh, I want to say, Ah.

547
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.559
If she wanted to steal it from David, pull the

548
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.279
truck spirts out, go for a ball, go for a Paul.

549
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.519
I'm pretty sure it was the kit Cat clock, wasn't it?

550
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:32.440
Yeah?

551
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.599
Right that yeah, and she throws it over her shoulder.

552
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.920
Incidentally, had that exact same clocks.

553
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.839
Such a great clock. Yeah, the guys in the tail.

554
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:52.759
Yeah, all right, Paul, Sorry, this is odd sticking. I

555
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:54.720
don't know how I ended up with the sticking with

556
00:31:54.759 --> 00:32:04.839
the Pellia theme. So here we go, All what two

557
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:09.839
members of the Enterprise crew did Pellia teach at Starfleet Academy.

558
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.720
Well, you have to be have been a very, very

559
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.920
heavily medically induced coma not to know that it. Montgomery

560
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.279
Scott is one of them, because they've referenced in every

561
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:27.759
single episode. But I believe that the second member of

562
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:33.240
our crew was good old Una Chin Riley aka number one.

563
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:39.119
That's right, And I can't believe this question number ten,

564
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.640
Going to Eric, here we go, it's you know what

565
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:48.559
it's about. When Pellia hands Ortegas a phone in her quarters?

566
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.559
What does Ortagis think it is?

567
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.519
This is one of my favorite moments, of course, right,

568
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:01.279
because you're starting to imagine that.

569
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:12.680
Yeah, Ortegas wonders if it's not a personal massager.

570
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.480
Yeah, so that they still have those in the future.

571
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.799
And that's kind of an interesting shape. I could see how.

572
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.559
That can that one.

573
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.160
And the way she says it, she kind of like

574
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.680
does the eyebrow thing that Ortegas does, which is just fantastic.

575
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.400
The way she delivers that line is great.

576
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.319
The way the doctor looked at it, it was almost

577
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:40.839
like she was about to laugh and stuff.

578
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.279
Yeah, she wants to borrow it for the weekend or something.

579
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:48.000
That was great.

580
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:51.559
Yeah, that was that was great. So, guys, that wraps

581
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.799
up our Star Trek trivia. I hope you had some fun.

582
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:56.000
I'm just trying to lighten things up and have some

583
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.039
fun with you guys. And I hope you guys listening

584
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.240
at home got all the answers right like my incredible

585
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.559
Truk Sports did. And uh, now it's time for some

586
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:06.720
cadet training. And this is the part of the show

587
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.159
where Charles. Normally we'll tell you, guys other episodes or

588
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.199
movies you could watch that tie into the episode we're

589
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.679
about to talk about. But Charles is not here, so

590
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.480
I'm going to attempt to fill his shoes the best

591
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:27.199
that I can. So cadet training for what is Starfleet?

592
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.360
We only have five that's unusual.

593
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:41.000
Usually we have a whole page fall but that's okay.

594
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:46.719
Yes, we'll do the best that we can. Okay, So first,

595
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:52.559
the first cadet training is Star Trek generations. Uh, the

596
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:57.440
ship had a film crew recording the launch. He's referring

597
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.239
to Captain Kirk and Scottie when they were on the

598
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:03.159
bridge of the Enterprise be that wasn't going to have

599
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:07.639
tracktor beams or photon torpedoes until next Tuesday, and they

600
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.360
were filming, right.

601
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:13.599
But this is our first like real like documentary style

602
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.679
anything of any Star Trek right.

603
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.440
Right, But that's just a reference.

604
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:18.519
So, okay, got it?

605
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:23.400
And Enterprise these are the voyages Season four, episode twenty two.

606
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.239
The film crew is recording the speech of Captain Archer,

607
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.320
so and we're we're going to talk a little bit

608
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.400
about that particular speech perhaps a little bit later in

609
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:39.960
the podcast. So we have Star Trek for the voyage

610
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.920
home the Whale Probe. You know they were the whale

611
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:49.639
Probe was destroying Earth's oceans with the beam. I think

612
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:55.039
that's a reference to the jin Kantu creature that came

613
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:57.079
out of the ocean and was going to destroy all

614
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:02.880
the spaceships. Also brings us the TG encounter our points

615
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:07.639
season one, episode one and two. Uh, the captured creatures,

616
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.119
the jellyfish creatures.

617
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.719
Crystaline entity, right, and that's that's something.

618
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.559
Yeah, that was from a different episode.

619
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.320
Sorry different right, you're right, okay, sorry.

620
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:24.039
And last, but not least, we have the Discovery episode

621
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.280
Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad, Season one,

622
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:32.280
episode seven with the giant space whale that Tilly later

623
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:33.840
on had a piece of when they were on the

624
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:37.679
Klingon home world before she realized she was eating. I

625
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:41.800
forgot what the name of that whale was. But so

626
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:47.719
that's our cadet training for this week. I apologize.

627
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:57.800
One more episode. It's tg I don't know which season

628
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:03.880
and which episode, but it's tin Man with that entity

629
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:08.519
that wanted to you know, Tam l Rond, the friend

630
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:13.000
of of what's her name, I can't think, Deanna Troy

631
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:19.400
and how he can communicate with it, and then winding

632
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.159
up that it just it wants to It's ancient, it's tired,

633
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.000
it just wants to, you know, and it's you know,

634
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:26.960
it just wants to die.

635
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.000
So he just wants to retire in Florida.

636
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:31.719
Retire in Florida. Same thing.

637
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.320
Yeah, yeah, episode.

638
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:40.559
Yeah, yeah, tin Man. And oddly enough, I was I

639
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:44.159
was at a convention with Denise and Michael Akuda and

640
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:47.199
when they were in tin Man, that weird sound that's

641
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.880
in the background, That organic sound. You know what that was?

642
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.360
Michael Akuda ate a bunch of pizza and his wife

643
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:09.440
recorded the sounds of the pizza digesting. What Seriously, No,

644
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.000
I'm not. They wanted an organic sound that was real

645
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:20.519
and organic and digesting. Okay, watch that episode. You can

646
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:22.280
think of eating pizza. Now.

647
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.960
I want pizza. I forgot I forgot to eat dinner.

648
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:34.480
So yeah, pizza. All right? Guys, what when you're over

649
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:39.119
on our Facebook page every Thursday, I post a question,

650
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.519
I ask you guys to score this week's episode on

651
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:44.159
the scale of one to ten being the best and

652
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:45.960
leave a comment tell us what you thought about it

653
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.480
or didn't think about it, and then we we tabulate

654
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.400
those and so we're gonna have Eric tell us what

655
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:56.760
our fans thought about what is Starfleet?

656
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:02.239
Absolutely we start out with rising Rich Miles, and rising

657
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:05.320
fan means that you haven't quite attained the status of

658
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.039
top fan, but you are working it. So thanks Rich

659
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.920
for working it. Rich Miles says ten out of ten.

660
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.599
The episode was brilliant. The documentary format was spot on.

661
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.440
Loved all the stats on the screen. I love that

662
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.559
they are pushing the boundaries and not having every episode

663
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.920
be the strange New world of the week. Here's the

664
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:33.719
creativity and variety double exclamation point. Thanks Rich Miles, Rich Navante,

665
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:39.679
No sorry, Novatnae. Novatnae says also ten out of ten.

666
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.039
A lot of people won't get it. This episode will

667
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:47.239
age well and go down as a classic. Ugh, don't

668
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.239
disagree with your rich, Thank you so much. John Kelly

669
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.599
gives it an eight out of ten. Not as exceptional

670
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.320
as last week, but not a let down either. A

671
00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.639
different perception of the crew and starlet enjoyed it. Top

672
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.199
fan Adrian Chow says I will give them four out

673
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.239
of ten as I understand the story and said it

674
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:13.159
was a documentary fiction story as what's Starfleet mean to them?

675
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:18.079
Thanks Adrian. Jerry Riley says, my initial feeling is that

676
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:25.360
it's not a complete failure. Okay, just to disappoint me,

677
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.320
you know, you know, sort of you know where it's headed.

678
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.039
Four out of ten. That's sorry, it's Jerry. We respect

679
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.039
his opinion. I felt that they were omitting details of

680
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.760
the mission for drama because it was revealed by the end.

681
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:42.239
It wasn't hidden for too long because as soon as

682
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.840
they revealed they were moving a lifelome to a war zone.

683
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.440
It was almost predictable. I immediately thought of Roga Dinar

684
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.599
in the TNG episode The Hunted, which did not make

685
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.920
Charles's cadet training, so honestly, like, I don't really even

686
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:01.719
remember that was. I'm gonna have to go back and

687
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:06.480
watch that one. Thanks, Jerry, appreciate it. Tracy Jane Evans

688
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:10.000
said in my humble opinion of five, I'm glad you

689
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.440
are all enjoying the season, but I've only enjoyed two

690
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.159
so far. Just my opinion though, all right, that's fair,

691
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:21.639
thanks Tracy. Jerry Sidersburger said perfection. It was a nine.

692
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:26.760
Dennis R. Booth b great last name by the way,

693
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.280
said I would give it a ten. I like to

694
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.840
think that it is exploding new perspectives. Oh I love

695
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:38.960
that idea, exploding new perspectives, seeing a different side of Starfleet.

696
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:42.320
The series ending is logical in keeping with the five

697
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:49.079
year mission Ingrid Monshank Fronzo said seven point five. Slow start,

698
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.320
but I love the ending and angela Iles gave it

699
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.559
a nine on IMDb, but may increase it to a ten.

700
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:02.440
It was a brilliant episode and we'll watch again and again.

701
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.159
And that, along with those fours and fives, gives us

702
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.800
a fan score of seven point eight this week.

703
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:15.800
Very very respectable. So Paul, you want to give us

704
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.039
a quick rundown of the episode, sure, are happy too.

705
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.880
We are talking about what would be episode seven of

706
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.679
season three. What is Starfleet? Okay? And so in this situation,

707
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.119
what we have here is a little bit of a

708
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:37.159
novel device used in terms of how the episode is shot.

709
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.039
Because Pike here.

710
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.119
Paul, can anybody hear Paul.

711
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:48.280
Not coming through you right now? Bummer?

712
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:50.400
There he is?

713
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:52.440
Can you hear me?

714
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:54.920
Okay, he's gonna he's gonna duck out and.

715
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:56.960
Come, oh there we go, There we go.

716
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.519
He spoken, Oh he talked out.

717
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:06.199
You know, we can vamp for like two or three.

718
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.519
So it totally is.

719
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.639
And I'm just like kind of astounded by the variety

720
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.920
of scores we have here right Like, it's not like

721
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.559
everybody rated it a six or seven. It's like there

722
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.480
are a bunch of fours and there are a bunch

723
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:23.000
of tens.

724
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.360
So I'll be I'll.

725
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:27.559
Be interested to hear what all of you guys have

726
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.840
to say about it.

727
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.840
Was it a perfect episode? Maybe not?

728
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:38.840
Maybe not, but certainly our fans thought there was a

729
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:41.840
lot of variety to it. I'm always interested when it

730
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:45.880
comes to the fans in terms of how they rate episodes, Right,

731
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.519
are they rating them against previous episodes of Star Trek

732
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.880
that they've seen? Are they rating them against what they

733
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.639
think is the best possible episode of Star Trek?

734
00:43:57.719 --> 00:43:58.039
Ever?

735
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:03.679
Do they have a specific metric that they pay attention to, Like,

736
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.920
you know, is it a morality play for example? Like

737
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.079
that's one of the things that I find I bring

738
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.360
up to myself when I'm watching new episodes of Star Trek,

739
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:18.119
because I feel like Star Trek differs from a lot

740
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:22.599
of other science fiction in that there's always, well, not always.

741
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.119
There's often in the best episodes a lesson to be

742
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:31.920
learned or a question to be asked that has no

743
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:36.159
specific answer. And I think the best episodes of Star

744
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:39.280
Trek and I'll die on this hill, I think Two

745
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:41.800
Vicks is one of those best episodes of Star Trek ever,

746
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.880
because it doesn't have a correct answer to it, right,

747
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:46.239
should Jane Way have killed him?

748
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.199
Should she have not? I don't know.

749
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.840
It looks like we have Paul back and Paul I

750
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.000
have vamped for a minute and a half and I'm

751
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:53.519
hoping that we.

752
00:44:53.480 --> 00:45:03.639
Can hear you, buddy, Okay, yeah, not loving this riverside format.

753
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.679
Just to be clear, do we still want a summary

754
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:07.360
or have we moved?

755
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.840
Let's summarize. I haven't done anything about that.

756
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.000
Okay, yeah, Well I can't imagine how you could talk

757
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.719
without mentioning this. But the whole I can the whole.

758
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:19.760
The framework of this episode, which I want to say,

759
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.719
is episode seven of season three. I'm pretty sure, right,

760
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:27.880
is the Pike and the crew are being subjects of

761
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:32.760
a documentary, right, And we've never really seen anything really

762
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:35.000
in Star Trek done from the perspective of like an

763
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.760
in camera documentary that's made by somebody, right, And in

764
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:45.119
this case, the filmmaker is Ortegas's brother Beto Okay, and

765
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.519
we've seen him in a couple of episodes. He's sort

766
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.880
of been the sort of super non threatening love interest

767
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:55.760
for Lieutenant Devora, right, well not lieutenant yet but ends Innua, right,

768
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:58.760
So that's kind of been his role. And he's like

769
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.880
a filmmaker surprise, which we didn't know, and he's making

770
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.159
this documentary Star Trek, but he may have another agenda

771
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:10.320
behind his filmmaking to basically peel back the onion of

772
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:15.519
Starfleet and really get into the idea they're presenting each

773
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:18.079
member of the crew he interviews. It's like a moral dilemma,

774
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:24.519
the tension space between the ideals of what are supposedly

775
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:28.599
the Federation and Starfleet and what actually goes on in

776
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.800
the reality is when faced with interstellar conflict. So he's

777
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.199
really questioning the real purpose of Starfleet. Is there integrity?

778
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.320
Is it a colonialist enterprise for pardon expression. That's really

779
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:45.079
where he's coming from there, So interesting to put that

780
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.079
up there. Supposedly he's making this for the centennial celebration

781
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.119
of the United Federation of Planets. They are escorting a

782
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.360
cargo that's initially a little mysterious to a planet that's

783
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.239
embroiled in like a civil war with its sister planet

784
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:05.159
at seven and Kasar, and we always like, I think

785
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:06.559
I caught the end of this, Eric, you, we're talking

786
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.000
about moral dilemmas in the Star Trek being effective.

787
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:12.239
Absolutely moral.

788
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.119
That effective Star Trek is a moral play that either

789
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.400
gives you a question to answer or a thing to

790
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:20.480
think about, or or maybe there's no question at all.

791
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:20.880
Yeah.

792
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:21.639
Absolutely, And so.

793
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.599
In this case here, it's like we're choosing sides, right,

794
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:26.760
which never happens in the real world, right, But the

795
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:30.320
mission to help one race in the Nile Shallar situation may,

796
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.519
and it writtenly couse arm to another, and it forces

797
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.679
the crew to run into a complex ethical you know,

798
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.199
conundrum if you will. So this is this whole documentary

799
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:45.239
style filmmaking leading to it, and he's very Beto is

800
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:52.239
really pointed about asking the's real sharp questions and uncovering

801
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.039
differing opinions among different members of the crew, asking them

802
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:01.079
to contrast the you know, supposed principles of the Federation

803
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:04.239
against real world situations, and we start to get a

804
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.360
sense that he really has a lot of skepticism and

805
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:12.840
actual resentment towards Starfleet if I'm reading the character correctly. There.

806
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:18.639
But it's an interesting frame, right because, as it's supposed

807
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.440
to be, Starfley represents the Federation, right, not just a

808
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.119
space faring service, but an organization of like values and

809
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.519
ethics and ideals. And so it actually, more than we've

810
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.920
really gotten seen that much, takes a critical look at

811
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.159
where the Federation's going versus what their ideals are versus

812
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.840
how they actually perform. And then we start getting into

813
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:42.280
a whole idea of another species being used as a

814
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:47.800
means of enforcing the agenda of what the mission may be,

815
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.119
and how do you respond to that when it is

816
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:54.920
a military structure and you're kind of obligated to follow orders.

817
00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:58.719
So that's basically the setup on there. I'm happy to

818
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:02.280
pop back in later and give you my rating on

819
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.039
this thing. And we've already heard what the fans thought

820
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.119
and there that fan feedback section, by the way, was

821
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.360
brought to you by Prune Juice in case Eric did

822
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:15.920
mention that. But always good to acknowledge our sponsors if

823
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:18.159
when we can. But that's kind of set up. So

824
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.440
a lot of handheld, kind of fancy camera work, a

825
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.599
lot of graphics on screen, a lot of contrast with

826
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.320
things that may or may not be going on in

827
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:29.480
the real world right now as we know it. So

828
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.079
I'll pop back in later and grade it. But that's

829
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.800
a setup, all right.

830
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.039
Thank you, Paul, Thank you so much. So David, you

831
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:46.280
want to start us off this week? Oh, focus right

832
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.960
in on the dun Du Switzerland has to speak.

833
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:57.480
I love the pressure. So this was an interesting episode.

834
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.800
I don't think Star Trek had ever done a particular

835
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:06.320
episode like this unless I'm mistaken. I'm for sure someone

836
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.280
can quote me on that. But yeah, the way that

837
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.280
they did this kind of reminded me in a way

838
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:17.559
that we've all been talking about kind of like if

839
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.000
they ever were to do like any kind of other

840
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:26.360
film of like uh, an alien race out there, you know,

841
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:28.679
like if they were doing a show about Cleanons, you know,

842
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:32.639
and they're all trying to like see what Starfleet was doing,

843
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:34.320
and it's just kind of like breaking it up in

844
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.000
their pieces here and there throughout the entire episode, so

845
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.440
you only got fitching pieces of information and all of

846
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.159
a sudden it was like the climax at the end

847
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.800
and everything like that, where if there was a perspective

848
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.079
of a you know, one person view or like say,

849
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:55.239
uh race into the view in a sense where like

850
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.599
if the Cleanons were like trying to see what the

851
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:02.079
Federation were doing, just how I would imagine that they

852
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:07.079
would film that type of show. But to me this

853
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.440
in particular way, I do have to agree with one

854
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.079
of our fans who it should say it was kind

855
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.880
of slow at the beginning. I was like, wow, where

856
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.920
are they going with their because it took a while

857
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:21.559
for them to really find out what was really going on.

858
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:26.599
But to me, I think this episode in particular way.

859
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:30.199
I don't know, Maybe I have to watch it a

860
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.320
second time, but for some reason, to me, it just

861
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:36.760
didn't really raise the bar for me. But I would

862
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:40.920
have to give this episode probably a seven if I

863
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:45.000
would be honest, because I might raise it again like

864
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.400
that one fan said, you raise it to a ten

865
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.880
after a nine. But yeah, I think I have to

866
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.679
go through a second episode watch with their show. I

867
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:55.760
think that's my take on it.

868
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:02.119
Well, David, I watched every episode two at least twice.

869
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.320
I watched it the first time too for the podcast,

870
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.679
to analyze it, see what I thought about it, check

871
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:11.440
out the different things. And then when not because it's

872
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.519
on Thursday, when I get up to camp on Friday,

873
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.239
I'll just I'll just kick back and watch it as

874
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.760
a fan, just to just to watch it and not

875
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:23.000
think just watched. The first time I watched this episode,

876
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.400
I hated it. And I'll tell you Paul can probably

877
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:30.400
relate to this. In my opinion, the worst and I

878
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:35.079
talking worst in Spock's brain, the worst Star Trek episode

879
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:41.000
ever with shades of gray, terrible, piece of pooh pooh, awful.

880
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:45.199
Why was it awful because it was a flashback clip

881
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.079
show that showed us clips and flashbacks that we had

882
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:52.239
already seen, gave us nothing new, added nothing to anything.

883
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:56.639
Waste of time. This episode comes in and as Paul

884
00:52:56.719 --> 00:52:59.480
said in the intro, Beato has been with us for

885
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:07.199
five episodes ish. Maybe he was there filming the the

886
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:11.000
Death of Ensign Gamble. He's been there filming pretty much

887
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:14.840
every episode that we have seen so far. And when

888
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:19.280
they showed the documentary, I thought they missed a huge

889
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:24.280
opportunity to go back and show us things from perspectives

890
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:26.159
from the episodes that we didn't get to see in

891
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:31.559
the episodes themselves, like maybe talk to Ensign Gamble about

892
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:34.000
going on his first mission where we all know how

893
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.159
it's going to end, or you know, there was a

894
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:40.039
lot of things they could have done. He filmed a

895
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:43.760
lot of footage, and instead they showed us all footage

896
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:48.079
from a mission that we hadn't seen and ignored everything

897
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:51.440
we had seen. And that kind of rubbed me the

898
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:55.239
wrong way, and so I was like, Wow, what a bummer.

899
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:57.119
But then when I went back and watched it a

900
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.239
second time, because I told you guys, I watched it twice.

901
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.000
When I went back and watched it the second time.

902
00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:07.559
I enjoyed it a lot more, and I felt that

903
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.400
this episode might have been a better episode if it

904
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.159
wasn't a documentary. I think the story could have been good.

905
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:17.039
They could have really you know, like, were the Klingons

906
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:21.440
working with the Lakarens for real? Were was the Federation

907
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.039
aiding a race that was in bed with the Klingons.

908
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:27.039
There was a lot a lot of political intrigue and

909
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:29.239
a lot of things that were floating around in that

910
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:35.480
episode that just weren't explored or really you know, talked

911
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.119
about other than around the table. And I just felt

912
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.840
that the actual mission itself would have been more interesting

913
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:45.639
had we not seen it cut up the way we did.

914
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.519
So you know that that knocked my score down a

915
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:53.960
little bit the second time I watched it, but I did.

916
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.039
I really liked Whra's little speech at the end when

917
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.199
after she throws Beto out and tells him not to

918
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.840
come back, and then at the end he comes back

919
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.599
and apologizes, and then she basically says, you know what

920
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:10.119
is starfleet? And she lays it on the line, and

921
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:13.880
I was like, you go girl, two thumbs up? And yeah,

922
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.320
I was like Okay, So my original score, I was

923
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:19.880
going to give it a four. The first time I

924
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:23.320
watched it, I was not overly impressed. Second time I

925
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:26.079
watched it, I bumped it up to an eight. So

926
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:30.320
my final score for this episode is an eight. What

927
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.440
about UV, Well.

928
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:35.400
I agree with the fans that rated it a ten

929
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:39.320
or a nine because I watched it. I wound up

930
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:46.000
watching it three times because I was just so I guess,

931
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:51.000
enthralled with the Jakaru that was a beautiful ethereal creature

932
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:56.079
and just the you know, learning what the scientists were

933
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:58.719
doing to it to make it an instrument of war

934
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:04.079
by altering it. As that one scientist that they try

935
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.679
to save, you know, she winds up dying, but she

936
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:11.880
realizes what they were doing was a mistake. But you're right,

937
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:16.159
it's about morality. Is it right to take a living

938
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:23.320
creature and use it against your enemies? Which, of course,

939
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:25.519
as far as I'm concerned, the answer would be no.

940
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:32.039
But I sort of liked the documentary because I think

941
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:37.400
Beto is because he's angry that his sister almost died.

942
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.079
But I like the way her reminded him, you know,

943
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:46.880
like you still have your sister. My best friend from

944
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:52.639
Starfleet Academy. I just recently learned died when the Gorn

945
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:57.400
attacked her ship, and she's not around anymore, and I've

946
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.559
lost my family. So it's almost like, you know, shut

947
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:03.840
up your little whiny baby and be thankful for what

948
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:09.840
you have. But I really, I just I don't know.

949
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.800
It was just something about about that that creature that

950
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.840
just spoke to me and I meant to watch. There

951
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.559
is actually a you can look it up a YouTube

952
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:25.360
little episode where they are talking about making that creature.

953
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.440
But I think they did a beautiful job because it

954
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:33.440
was just this ethereal, beautiful creature that was turned into

955
00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:37.119
something horrible. And I got it as a you know,

956
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.760
as a mother, you know, of course, it just sort

957
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.400
of ripped my heart out when they find out she's

958
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:47.960
worried about her children and that Pike promises that they

959
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:53.320
will not be altered to be instruments of war. So

960
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:57.239
I think I'll give it a It was a solid

961
00:57:57.320 --> 00:57:58.480
nine point five for me.

962
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.880
Yeah, this episode. There was episode Friday's Child. I believe

963
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:09.239
it was where the Klingons were helping the inhabitants of

964
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:13.280
the planet wage war against the other inhabitants of the planet.

965
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:14.320
Was that Friday's Child.

966
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:16.679
Friday's Child with.

967
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.840
The Klingons were in Friday Child. But you're thinking of

968
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:22.840
a private, little.

969
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:28.000
War, private little war, that's it. And at the beginning

970
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:33.360
of the episode, I paused the screen and the one

971
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.159
race I forgot who they were. Paul, there was two races,

972
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:40.599
two planets in this particular episode. One planet had like

973
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:45.880
a billion deaths, like an astronomical amount of deaths. The

974
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:51.920
other planet was minuscule, like nearly none. The planet that

975
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.480
was getting wiped out is the planet that the Federation

976
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:56.719
was going to help, and they were the ones that

977
00:58:56.760 --> 00:59:01.280
were enslaving this creature to try to, you know, get

978
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.840
the war to end. And I didn't catch that until

979
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:06.480
the second time I watched the episode. Not that it matters,

980
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:08.599
but it made me think of that other Star Trek

981
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:13.320
episode where the Klingons were nefariously you know, working in

982
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:18.960
the background. So yeah, Eric, Eric, buddy, jump in here

983
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.599
and tell us what you thought. Go ahead, lay it out,

984
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:25.079
lay out this crooked band of snakes. Make it straight.

985
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:32.000
Yeah, So okay, So gosh, I don't even know where

986
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:36.239
to start. I guess the style of the show, right,

987
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:40.239
So it's documentary style. We haven't really seen that before,

988
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:43.599
and I really really.

989
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.960
Liked that aspect of it. I liked that it was.

990
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.599
Bringing like so we've actually kind of mentioned on this

991
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:56.760
podcast before when you bring too much modern day stuff,

992
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:59.400
whether it's music, I think we've often talked about it

993
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.119
in the context of music, but when you bring too

994
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.719
much modern day stuff to Star Trek, maybe it yeah

995
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:15.159
makes you suspend your disbelief too much. But this episode

996
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:17.480
clearly had that, Like right at the very beginning, they

997
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:21.239
had the whole disclaimer about this stuff has been declassified

998
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.599
and it's okay to show you this and and that

999
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:28.760
sort of stuff. It didn't that part didn't bother me.

1000
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.239
And the fact that Beto has been present over the

1001
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:35.239
last many many episodes and his little drone has been

1002
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:39.079
flying around recording stuff I thought was was really interesting.

1003
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:43.039
And the fact that it started out hard hitting, like

1004
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:46.000
he was asking hard questions and he was kind of

1005
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:50.320
on the you know, I want to say negative end

1006
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:53.119
of the spectrum, but like he was he was asking

1007
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:59.679
uncomfortable things of people there, you know, which actually led

1008
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:05.519
to some unsatisfying moments, like like saying that's classified, Like

1009
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:08.960
we still actually have no idea from this episode why

1010
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:13.119
Starfleet was actually running guns to this one race but

1011
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.639
not to this other race, so that that sort of

1012
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:19.480
bugs me a little bit. They didn't, I didn't really

1013
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.559
resolve that, and I feel like that was a huge

1014
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.480
part of this episode. So the fact that they didn't

1015
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:32.360
do that bugs me. But we also have as which

1016
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:35.159
didn't show up in Cadet training, but as a sort

1017
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:38.519
of like, uh, you know, thing from the past that

1018
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:41.119
plays into this. We had Jake Cisco as a writer,

1019
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:46.719
and to me, he was he was commenting on Starfleet

1020
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:48.920
through his writing and that sort of stuff, and I

1021
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:54.559
was constantly reminded of that as I was watching this episode.

1022
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:59.800
But generally speaking, I really like the documentary style. I

1023
01:01:59.880 --> 01:02:04.920
like that they had footage from both Beato's flying drone

1024
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:11.639
thing and from secret cameras apparently positioned all over the Enterprise,

1025
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.360
Like there's probably like a thousand cameras on the Enterprise.

1026
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:20.400
It feels like London and the Enterprise is the same thing,

1027
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:23.639
Like no matter where you are, you're always on camera.

1028
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:28.000
I feel like that's okay in a in a pseudo

1029
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.679
like benevolent fascist sort of universe.

1030
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:33.119
Like Star Trek.

1031
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:40.239
Yeah, but I mean, let's be clear, like Starfleet is

1032
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:44.360
very controlling in a lot of ways, right, and yet

1033
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:51.119
they do it for a moral high ground that seems

1034
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:53.360
to come through I don't know. I think Starfleet is

1035
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.400
one of the most fascinating things that's ever been put

1036
01:02:56.440 --> 01:03:01.039
on television because it seems to somehow Hoops seems to

1037
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:08.599
somehow balance like both sides of that that coin. So anyway, Okay,

1038
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:12.519
so the cameras are great, the documentary style is great.

1039
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:21.199
The concept of Starfleet delivering a weapon, especially an organic weapon,

1040
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:26.760
to another race to help fight against another race seems

1041
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:32.719
extremely non Starfleet to me. There was a moment when

1042
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:36.280
I really wanted them to tell me whether or not

1043
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:40.000
the one race that was the defender against the aggressor

1044
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:45.039
was a was a member of the Federation or not.

1045
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:48.840
It didn't really deal with that, and and I know

1046
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:52.719
that Starfleet has you know, preference toward I mean, Starfleet

1047
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:56.280
is sort of allegory for groups like NATO, right, a

1048
01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:59.360
group of nations that sort of come together and decide

1049
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:02.760
to do the same thing together. They never tell us

1050
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.960
in this episode whether or not the the the good guys,

1051
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:12.280
the underdogs are a Federation member and they're being sort

1052
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:18.239
of you know, aggressed against by the bad guys, so

1053
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:22.480
that that part really bugged me about this episode. Didn't

1054
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:25.800
I didn't know why Starfleet was running guns in the

1055
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:29.719
first place. But I will agree with thee that the

1056
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:33.079
creature was absolutely amazing. Like when she comes out of

1057
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.840
the ocean and she goes into orbit, I was like,

1058
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:37.800
Oh my god, my mind is being blown right now.

1059
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.760
She was so beautiful. And then she's got this like

1060
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:43.559
ultimate power that's just like this big wave that kind

1061
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:46.280
of comes out and like disables everything that's around it.

1062
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:50.119
I mean, that was that was super duper cool. And

1063
01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:53.440
then you find out later that she's being forced to

1064
01:04:53.519 --> 01:05:02.880
do what she you know, is doing, and I don't know,

1065
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:05.480
there was this moment there at the beginning of the

1066
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.800
episode as like, what the hell is Starflely doing. This

1067
01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:11.039
is not star Trek at all, And then there's a

1068
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.480
moment later where Pike says something like, well, Starfleet has

1069
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.559
given us orders, and it's okay to do the thing

1070
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:18.719
that we're gonna do, which is fly the creature into

1071
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:22.599
the sun. And it just felt a little disjointed to me.

1072
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:26.079
I didn't feel like this was the shortest episode of

1073
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:28.840
Strange New Worlds we've seen yet. It was like forty minutes,

1074
01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.559
and it didn't do a good enough job of connecting

1075
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:39.159
the reason that Starfleet is supporting this thing to the

1076
01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:43.480
reason that that was a bad choice. And I think

1077
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:47.000
that that's actually a perfect Star star Trek theme in general,

1078
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:48.960
like we're gonna do this thing because we feel like

1079
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.880
it's really really the right thing to do. Oh shit,

1080
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:54.400
it's not the right thing to do. We're gonna not

1081
01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:58.400
do the thing. It just this episode just didn't bring

1082
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:04.559
those two like pieces together for me. So anyway, the

1083
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.079
ending felt a little bit rushed to me. I feel

1084
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:12.800
like some of the morals of Starfleet are in question here.

1085
01:06:14.840 --> 01:06:16.679
There were some nice moments in the episode, don't get

1086
01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:20.559
me wrong, like the the you know when Spock's talking

1087
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:24.000
about like fleeing to the Plane of Blood, which as

1088
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:25.440
soon as he said that, I was like, haven't I

1089
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:26.679
heard of the Plane of Blood before?

1090
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:26.840
Oh?

1091
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:27.719
Yeah, that was right.

1092
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:32.039
They talked about that in that episode of Star Trek Enterprise,

1093
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:36.199
Vulcan's Forge, which is one of the it's part of

1094
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:40.519
that cool trilogy of Vulcans Forge, Terry Incognita, and something

1095
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:42.920
else that I can't remember right now. In Star Trek

1096
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:49.480
enterprise great episodes. There was the moment when Spock brings

1097
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:51.920
the cup of coffee to la On, which is like

1098
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:55.559
a nice little kind of callback to their relationship that's happening,

1099
01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:58.199
but it was super subtle and not forced and not

1100
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:00.000
actually a main part of the episode at all.

1101
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:01.599
So I really really liked that.

1102
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:06.760
And there's the whole idea of Spock talking about his

1103
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:15.000
own esperating as a vulcan right, like they're more psionically

1104
01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:20.519
active or attuned than humans are, And that totally took

1105
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:25.880
me back to Elizabeth Dinner and Gary Mitchell from that

1106
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.800
original series episode where no one has gone before, So

1107
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:32.360
that was kind of a cool like connection back to

1108
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:37.000
the original series. So this episode for me overall felt

1109
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:40.320
a little hot and cold. There were aspects of it

1110
01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:42.519
that I really really liked, and then I thought were

1111
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:46.400
really rich and had like a lot of legs, and

1112
01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:49.639
then sometimes they just didn't bring it home. It was

1113
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:52.920
like carrying the football ninety eight yards and get into

1114
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.760
the two yard line and get into the old and

1115
01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:00.960
just not quite scoring the touchdown. So so this was

1116
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.760
actually of the season. This was the hardest episode for

1117
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:07.480
me to rape overall, because there were parts that I

1118
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:09.440
thought were a five, and there were parts that I

1119
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.239
thought were a ten. So I guess I'm going to

1120
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:13.800
average five and ten and give it a seven and

1121
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:14.320
a half.

1122
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:15.360
I don't e get.

1123
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:19.520
I might change my mind tomorrow, but right now, seven

1124
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:20.920
and a half is where I'm landing.

1125
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:24.439
All right, Well, Paul, that means you get the caboose

1126
01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:27.239
on this one, buddy. You've heard all the truck spurts.

1127
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:34.399
So well, we lose Paul.

1128
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:35.279
Hello?

1129
01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:37.520
Did we lose Paul? We lost Paul?

1130
01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:38.119
Hello?

1131
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.279
Okay, turn Unfortunately, I say, real.

1132
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:44.800
Quick, how about now about there we go?

1133
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:46.119
There we go?

1134
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:51.640
Keeps dropping out, so I'll try to go. Yeah.

1135
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:55.720
Interesting episode. It felt a little gimmicky to me. The

1136
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:58.119
whole idea of like, you know, we're gonna do this

1137
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:01.520
is like document documentary stuff, right, which kind of felt

1138
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:05.359
a little dated for me. I like the thematic idea

1139
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:07.560
of using that as a device to you know, kind

1140
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:13.279
of question the ethos of uh starfleet and is it

1141
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:17.800
really a mechanism of colonialism? I thought that we don't

1142
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:20.920
hear that very often right in in star Trek. But

1143
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.319
so I thought some aspects of the story, we're good

1144
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.880
and high minded and UH and certainly meant well, all right,

1145
01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:32.399
But as far as it fitting into the overall flow

1146
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:34.640
of what's going on this season, I felt like it

1147
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:40.079
was a real uh, you know, sluggish. You know, I'm

1148
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:42.560
wanting to keep up with what's going on with like

1149
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:47.319
spockx dynamics, with things, what's going on with this supposed

1150
01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:50.600
gornism of Battel, all these things that I want to

1151
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:54.520
know about show up. Yeah, I feel like these things

1152
01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:57.840
didn't happen, and I always felt like it really disconnected me.

1153
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.119
What's going on with Chapel was her dynamic? I felt

1154
01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:04.479
it was really interrupted the flow of things right. And

1155
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:06.920
I also have to say, I'm sure he's a nice guy,

1156
01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:12.600
but I find the Beto character super annoying. I found

1157
01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:15.159
it was just his whole manner which is really off

1158
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:17.720
putting to me. I did not care for him. As

1159
01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:21.159
they say, I'm sure he's supposed to be a little

1160
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:23.880
bit of an antagonist in this episode, but he seemed

1161
01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:29.920
like an very ingratiating antagonist, And so when he finally

1162
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.439
gets the riot Act read for him, I kind of

1163
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.279
liked it, and hopefully I would hope that after all

1164
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:38.119
that the events of this episode of where it's like, nah,

1165
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:40.920
I don't think so, thanks, but no thanks, I just

1166
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:44.000
don't like you that way, Beto. Right, Hopefully it's more

1167
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:48.159
one of those resolutions because I'm really kind of done.

1168
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:48.640
With the character.

1169
01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:52.359
I just assume not have him. Maybe he's going to

1170
01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:55.199
become gore and showder in a future episode. We don't know,

1171
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:58.359
but I'm not sure. But yeah, So for me, I

1172
01:10:58.399 --> 01:11:00.359
mean a lot of things in terms of the ruhre

1173
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.199
that were nice. I like that the moment that Eric

1174
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:06.720
mentioned about, you know, spot handing the coffee, that is great.

1175
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:10.279
I mean I suspect that's all the actors, you know,

1176
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:14.199
and not the screenwriting would be my guest, because it

1177
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:16.680
just it just felt like something that actors would do

1178
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:19.319
to like enhance, you know, charisma, and I like the

1179
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:23.000
subtlety of it. So for me, as though back and forth,

1180
01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:24.640
I don't think this episode I'm gonna get a lot

1181
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:27.359
of joy out of watching multiple times. I think I

1182
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:30.039
got it just one shot, one viewing. I think I'm

1183
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:34.479
rated for more diving in to the stirm and dragon

1184
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:38.319
of the regular season's rhythms. Right, So for me, I think,

1185
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:40.880
you know, because I do respect where they're going, what

1186
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.039
they're trying to do. I'm happy to give it a seven,

1187
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:47.000
but I think that's about it, and there were certainly

1188
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:49.520
some aspects of the episode that were weaker than others.

1189
01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:53.319
So let's move on. Let's get back into the vibe

1190
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.680
of the ongoing episodes and plan out what's going on

1191
01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:59.720
with their characters. So for me, seven done.

1192
01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:03.159
You know, I agree, Paul. I think I said this

1193
01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:07.039
last week. They got there their gimmicky. They got to

1194
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:10.000
let Star Trek be Star Trek and stop trying to

1195
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:11.720
come up with the gimmick of the week and just

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01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:16.399
let Star Trek grow and be Star Trek and not

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01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.920
try to be all these different things. Just let's Star

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01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:24.600
Trek be. So all right, So, Eric, I guess you're

1199
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:29.800
the new Charles. So we've heard from our Truk Spurts,

1200
01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:32.640
we've heard from our minions. So how did we stack

1201
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:33.840
up next to the minions?

1202
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:37.560
We did pretty good. Actually we got us seven point

1203
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:43.920
seven from the Trek Sperts. So that is what the

1204
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:45.760
what the minions get here, they.

1205
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:48.079
What we forgot. We forgot Charles.

1206
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:52.199
Oh, oh you know what I can Yeah, you're right.

1207
01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:55.000
Oh it's actually not going to move the needle, but

1208
01:12:55.119 --> 01:13:00.479
I will totally read Charles's review of this so he said,

1209
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.600
when I first saw the episode start, I thought back

1210
01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:07.279
to MASH when they did a show from the view

1211
01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:10.920
of the reporter. I was disappointed in how Betel Orteigez

1212
01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:15.199
treated Uhura, though he wants to have a relationship, being

1213
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:17.880
very rude, how he treated her and how he told

1214
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:21.920
her how her friend had died. Yeah, that was kind

1215
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:27.079
of weird. The retracted was a little overused. How did

1216
01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:31.840
a reporter get access to the ship's bridge cameras? Jim

1217
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.520
and Paul both question that Strange New Worlds doesn't have

1218
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:38.680
a focus this season. This episode just made it more confusing.

1219
01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:43.079
Disappointed that neither Scotty nor Pellia appeared in the episode.

1220
01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:47.399
What was the purpose of making the documentary? That was

1221
01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:53.119
never clear? Overall score seven point five. So that doesn't

1222
01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:54.960
really move the needle at all for us. So that's

1223
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.840
a seven point seven from the Trexperts.

1224
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:02.279
All right, what Cho said are interesting is we're well framed.

1225
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:04.479
I like, especially like the MASH call back.

1226
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:09.880
Yeah on yeah, yeah, absolutely, And he is kind of

1227
01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.199
a bait it way was kind of a dick to right,

1228
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:14.840
I mean he was kind of basically, you know, kind

1229
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:17.479
of uh, you know, not so nice.

1230
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:21.239
Yeah, I mean that is that is one hundred percent true.

1231
01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:24.640
And uh, I don't know how many filmmakers you guys know,

1232
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.640
but but there's this kind of like aspect of them

1233
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:31.880
when they're making something where they're trying to bring out

1234
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:38.159
aspects of people that wouldn't normally necessarily be on display,

1235
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:41.239
that they pushed the limit a little bit, like they

1236
01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:46.439
they ask Devil's Advocate style questions in order to pull

1237
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:49.199
this forward. And if there was another failing of this

1238
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:51.239
that I didn't talk about, it was the fact that

1239
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:53.600
he's like, well, it was really all about me being

1240
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:56.399
mad about my sister, and I'm like, no, dude, you

1241
01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:02.359
are a documentary maker. Your literal job is to ask

1242
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:05.279
the questions that nobody else is asking, and even if

1243
01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:09.680
you don't believe in what you're asking, it is your

1244
01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:12.199
job as the filmmaker to be the one who asked

1245
01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:14.000
those questions. So I thought it was a little bit

1246
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:19.479
weak actually that he copped out on the on the

1247
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:21.840
I met about my sister aspect of it.

1248
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:29.920
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, Eric, they didn't have a

1249
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:36.800
clear focus. I didn't think. I think you're absolutely right, Paul.

1250
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:37.399
How how long.

1251
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:38.239
How long do you.

1252
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:42.960
Have, Paul, like, probably realistic five minutes?

1253
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.560
Do you want to jump? I got this story specifically

1254
01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:49.439
for Do we want to jump to your news story

1255
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:51.159
right now? Can we do that? Can we make that

1256
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:55.319
happy David? And then we'll swing back? All right, Well, guys,

1257
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:57.239
we have a special news story that I put in

1258
01:15:57.279 --> 01:16:02.239
here specifically for Paul, and I scoured the internet to

1259
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:06.199
collect pictures of these things just for Paul and David

1260
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:09.920
video wow, and I will will Paul take it away?

1261
01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:10.800
Go ahead, Paul, all.

1262
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:12.800
Right, I'll be quick. So thanks, guys. I appreciate you

1263
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:16.560
understanding another commitment I have to do tonight. But of course,

1264
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:18.319
you know, as Charles would tell us if he was here.

1265
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:20.600
Recently there were Star Trek Las Vegas, right and it's

1266
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:25.479
a huge deal, gigantic convention, and the Nacell Toy company

1267
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:28.039
was there and revealed some sneak peaks for the second

1268
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:31.319
wave of their big seven inch upcoming Star Trek figures,

1269
01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:35.560
including Sailor Jordie and Saylor Wharf. What are we talking about, Well,

1270
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:38.720
let's take a look at these pictures. Nasell, the company

1271
01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.600
behind the new officially licensed one twelve scale Star Trek

1272
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:44.000
action figure, so that's in the six inch to seven

1273
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:48.720
inch scale Marvel Legends Star Wars Black Theories if you're

1274
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:52.000
a collector of those type of things. They revealed the

1275
01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:55.159
first look at renders and prototypes for the Romulent Commander

1276
01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:59.279
from the original series, which is pretty sweet. Mark Lenard

1277
01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:02.640
of course, dy La Forge Generations Sailor Edition and Wharf

1278
01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:05.119
Star Trek Generations Sailor Editions, and they're kind of like

1279
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:10.640
Napoleonic Master and Commander type Garb and Valerius from Wave

1280
01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:13.399
two of the line. The news comes on the heels

1281
01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:15.920
of a successful San Diego comic con that saw the

1282
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:19.600
full lineup reveals for waves three and four, as well

1283
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:23.560
as prototype reveals of Catherine Janeway are really ripped Year

1284
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:27.960
of Hell edition, nog Favor the Bold Edition from Wave two,

1285
01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:32.039
as well as Niota Uvura from Wave three. Looking pretty sharp.

1286
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:36.760
I gotta say, really really great. Brian Volkweiss, he's the

1287
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:40.960
CEO of Nasel, definitely compliments. I have not seen any

1288
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.399
of these in person yet, eager to get my hands

1289
01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:46.880
on some there so looking pretty good, good from day one.

1290
01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:50.039
Brian Volkweiss has proclaimed that this new line of figures

1291
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:54.000
are made by passionate Star Trek fans for Star Trek

1292
01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:58.119
fans right Nzelle took the first first approach even further

1293
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:01.079
by creating an email address artric Ideas at the Cell

1294
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:05.600
company dot com. Ooh, I'm going to email them where

1295
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:07.680
fans could submit their ideas on what figures they want

1296
01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:10.800
to see next. Due to fan feedback and demand, ni

1297
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:14.960
Cell expanded the selection for Wave two from eight figures

1298
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:19.479
to ten, while mixing in some familiar faces like Wharf

1299
01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:24.920
and Jordie to Paul and Nog, who's someone who's never

1300
01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:27.399
believed in the no win scenario. I'm quite happy with

1301
01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:30.600
the community's reaction to our figures, said the Cell see

1302
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:35.079
Oh Brian Bolkwiss. It's still all very surreal, but couldn't

1303
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:37.159
be happier if I tried. We got to get this

1304
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:39.000
guy in the show, Uncle Jim. I mean, he's just

1305
01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:42.800
he's stirring it up because it was I initially thought

1306
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:44.399
this is like a joke or a gimmick, but it's

1307
01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:46.600
not one of the upcoming figures from I want to

1308
01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:48.800
say Wave three or Way four. He's doing like Beverly

1309
01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:53.399
Crusher Ghost Candle Edition, if you know what I'm saying. Okay,

1310
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:55.800
I mean, it's just that's crazy. It's why I look

1311
01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:58.640
at that Lieutenant Whoa and Patreon fans can see what

1312
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:01.359
I'm talking about here in the video and maybe we'll

1313
01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:03.920
push that on the old YouTube there for folks to

1314
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:06.800
take a look at. But really great looking figures. There's

1315
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:11.279
a big one from Generations with Pederal kirkw with a horse,

1316
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:14.239
a full sized frickin' horse and like a stump to

1317
01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:18.000
chop wood on. I mean very He's super generous with

1318
01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:21.479
the accessories on these figures. That is one thing that's

1319
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:25.119
just like outrageous, I mean really really amazing. It's crazy.

1320
01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:27.159
I hope we can put as many of these figures

1321
01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:30.199
up on these pictures up on the Facebook page to

1322
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:32.880
just titillate folks because it really is astonishing and looking

1323
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:36.319
great likenesses I think probably by the best Shatner likeness

1324
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:39.520
I've seen. So I'm super excited for these to start

1325
01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:42.960
showing up. I'm a little hesitant to pre order things

1326
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.720
these days, what with the whole tariff situation, and I

1327
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:47.479
kind of like to just get stuff in the wild

1328
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:50.439
if I can find them, so hopefully my local comic

1329
01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:54.479
book shop will enable me. But they look great. I

1330
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:57.199
mean the prototypes look fantastic. If the final product look

1331
01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.239
as good as these prototypes do. He's kind of and

1332
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:02.600
he's doing stuff that no one else ever does, so

1333
01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:07.000
it's really exciting first time ever stuff, right, I mean

1334
01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:11.279
that we've never seen produced ever two fix figure Come on,

1335
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:12.720
did we ever think we'd see that?

1336
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:13.159
No?

1337
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:17.199
So I mean really bold stuff and deep cuts I

1338
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:22.079
think seem to define where Brian Bolgweiss is going. So again,

1339
01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:24.600
if you're out there, sir, come on our podcast, we

1340
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:28.199
would love to interview with you at length, and definitely

1341
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:30.199
we can all throw some really cool ideas your way

1342
01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:33.680
as well. So super excited. Again, if you feel like

1343
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:37.359
you want to email these guys, it's Star Trek Ideas

1344
01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:40.640
at Nassell Company dot com. That's NA C E L

1345
01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:43.199
L E Company dot com, like you know, the twin

1346
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:47.159
NA cells that power the starships. In case you're a

1347
01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:51.279
little slow following. So again, but Uncle Jim, thank you

1348
01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:53.399
for making time for me to chat about this and

1349
01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:58.079
fit this in to an otherwise crazy evening. But go

1350
01:20:58.119 --> 01:21:01.479
get some action figures, friends, and stay young at heart

1351
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.600
is my advice. And I can't wait to watch the

1352
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:07.600
new episode of strange your world's late tonight. Thanks Frends,

1353
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:08.560
love you.

1354
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:13.520
All right, Thanks a lot, Paul, and we will visit

1355
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:15.279
with you again next week. I had to get this

1356
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:19.079
story in just for you, so all right, I have

1357
01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:21.479
a good night, Paul. We'll talk to you next week.

1358
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:25.880
Bye bye. All right, guys, that was the toy guy,

1359
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:29.760
Paul talking about toys, and we're gonna we're gonna swing

1360
01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:32.600
back around to our Star Trek birthdays and then we'll

1361
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:34.760
swing back to the news. We got a couple of

1362
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:37.880
more news stories, and we always start off our Star

1363
01:21:37.960 --> 01:21:42.600
Trek birthdays by remembering those members of our Oh wait, wait, wait,

1364
01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:44.399
I'm getting ahead of myself. I got thrown off.

1365
01:21:44.399 --> 01:22:05.119
Hold on, that was not a clemon song.

1366
01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:09.319
Okay, now we're back on track. We always start off

1367
01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:12.920
our Star Trek birthdays by, sadly enough, remembering those members

1368
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:15.279
of our Star Trek family who are no longer with us,

1369
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.520
and for that we turned to Eric.

1370
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:18.960
Yeah, Jim.

1371
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:23.239
This week we start our remembrances with actor Oliver McGowan,

1372
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:27.920
the character actor who played the Caretaker in the nineteen

1373
01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:33.680
sixty six original series first season episode Sure Leave. Mister

1374
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:38.000
McGowan was mostly known for his seventy five guest appearances

1375
01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:43.239
as various characters on various shows. One of his earliest appearances,

1376
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:46.359
at the age of forty nine was in an episode

1377
01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:51.319
of Maverick alongside Arthur Bentonitez, who of course was our

1378
01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:55.520
Lieutenant Dematto from the original series. So one of his

1379
01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:58.920
earliest appearances was when he was forty nine years old.

1380
01:22:59.239 --> 01:22:59.760
I love it.

1381
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:02.199
This guy made a career in the second half of

1382
01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:05.000
his life. Happy birthday to Oliver McGowan lost all the

1383
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:09.119
way back in nineteen seventy one. Happy Birthday as well

1384
01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:13.439
to w Morgan. Shephard, the British actor who played four

1385
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:16.920
characters throughout the Star Trek franchise. He appears as Ira

1386
01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:21.199
Graves in the TNG episode The Schizoid Man, the Klingon

1387
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:25.920
Commandant in Star Trek sixth, The Undiscovered Country, a Tie

1388
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:30.920
in Voyagers episode Bliss, and the Vulcan Science Minister in

1389
01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:35.000
Star Trek two thousand and nine. While doing additional dialogue

1390
01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:38.159
recording for Star Trek two thousand and nine, he told

1391
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:42.680
the film's director and producer JJ Abrams, not realizing who

1392
01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:46.880
he was speaking to, that the director was a slave driver.

1393
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:53.279
He apologized later after Abrams revealed himself to be the

1394
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:57.159
director of the movie Wait to Speak Your Mind. W

1395
01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:02.319
Morgan Shepherd lost We lost him back in twenty nineteen

1396
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:04.560
at the age of eighty six years old. Happy Birthday

1397
01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:08.439
to you. Happy Birthday as well to Graham Jarvis, the

1398
01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:13.479
actor who played Clym Dokachin in the Next Generation fifth

1399
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:17.760
season episode Unification Part one. Outside of Star Trek, Jarvis

1400
01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:20.720
was part of numerous television series. He was a regular

1401
01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:25.079
on Mary Hartman Mary Hartman, on which he played Charles

1402
01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:28.680
Hagers from nineteen seventy six through nineteen seventy eight and

1403
01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:31.399
from nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety nine. Jervis had

1404
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:35.479
a reoccurring role in the computer game series known as

1405
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:41.439
The Journeyman Project as Sarah's slash doctor Elliot Sinclair. I

1406
01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.479
have not heard of that, but I'm not a big gamer,

1407
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.720
so I'm sure that somebody out there knows more about

1408
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:49.279
this than I do. Jarvis later made appearances as Charles

1409
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:54.640
Jackson Jackson in numerous episodes of the series Seventh Heaven.

1410
01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:59.359
Happy Birthday to Graham Jarvis, Happy Birthday, as well to

1411
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:03.239
Georgia sh Schmidt, the actress who played the first Telesion

1412
01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:06.199
in The Cage, the first pilot episode, of course, of

1413
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:09.920
the original series. Footage of her appearance would of course

1414
01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:13.079
later be used for The Menagerie Part one and Part two.

1415
01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:18.560
Her additional television credits include things like The Monkeys, television series,

1416
01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:21.279
The Wild Wild West, Family Affair, The Odd Couple, The

1417
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:26.159
Incredible Hulk, and TV movies like A Killing Affair and

1418
01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:30.479
Terror at Alcatraz. She did a few movies along the way.

1419
01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.479
The one that's most notable to me is she was

1420
01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:36.119
in The Andromeda Strain from nineteen seventy one. Happy Birthday

1421
01:25:36.840 --> 01:25:39.199
to Georgia Schmidt lost all the way back in nineteen

1422
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.079
ninety seven at the ripe old age of ninety two

1423
01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:47.239
years old. Happy Birthday as well to Janet McLaughlin, the

1424
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:51.039
actress who played Charlene Masters in the original series first

1425
01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:55.239
season episode The Alternative Factor. She made her television acting

1426
01:25:55.279 --> 01:25:59.079
debut in The Alfred Hitchcock Hour in nineteen sixty five,

1427
01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:03.199
but definitely her most notable television role was in the

1428
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:08.119
nineteen sixties. She played Layla in the nineteen sixty seven

1429
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:13.600
episode of I Spy. McLaughlan was also a prominent television

1430
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:18.680
actress in the nineteen seventies, during which she was reunited

1431
01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:22.439
with Bill Cosby on The Bill Cosby Show. In nineteen

1432
01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:26.239
eighty she made three appearances as the housekeeper Polly Swanson

1433
01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:30.279
in the sitcom Archie Bunkers Place, and in ninety four

1434
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:32.720
she made a return appearance on Murder.

1435
01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:33.680
She wrote in.

1436
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:38.119
An episode that also starred actors like Robert Beltran and

1437
01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:42.439
Marta Dubois. Happy Birthday to Janet McLaughlin, lost back in

1438
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.439
twenty ten at the age of seventy seven years old,

1439
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:48.720
and last, but not least, on our remembrance list we

1440
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:54.000
remember this week. David soul born David Richard Solberg. He's

1441
01:26:54.039 --> 01:26:58.720
the actor who played Macorra in the TOS second season

1442
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:03.760
episode The Apple. Best known, perhaps, however, for playing Detective

1443
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:08.359
Ken hutch Hutchinson in the television series Starsky and Hutch.

1444
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:11.000
I think we've all seen that before. He also had

1445
01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:13.560
a cameo in the film version of Starsky and hutch

1446
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:17.600
which of course co starred Rachel Harris and Fred Williamson

1447
01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:22.079
and was produced by mister Akiva Goldsman himself. In two

1448
01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:25.279
thousand and four, after his appearance on Star Trek, he

1449
01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:28.640
starred as the Middle Bolt brother Joshua in the TV

1450
01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:32.680
series Here Come the Brides. He also played Rick Blaine

1451
01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:38.279
in a short lived television series adaptation of Casablanca. So

1452
01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:44.600
lots of interesting stuff in David Soul's IMDb IMDb page. Unfortunately,

1453
01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:46.680
we lost him just about a year and a half

1454
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:49.720
or so ago January fourth, twenty twenty four, at the

1455
01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:55.119
age of eighty years old. Happy birthday to David Soul. Eric.

1456
01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:59.640
Yeah, let's not forget the movie that scared the pants

1457
01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:01.520
out to me as a kid.

1458
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:07.079
Oh, Salem's Yeah Yeah. In nineteen seventy nine, he starred

1459
01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:10.239
as Ben Mears in that mini series and that was

1460
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:13.399
I think is still considered one of the best, like

1461
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:18.800
television mini series adaptations of any Stephen King property. There

1462
01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:21.680
are a lot of them out there, but Salem's Lot

1463
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.800
from the seventies is still really, really, really good.

1464
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:27.399
Jim and I agree, scared the pants off of me.

1465
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:32.960
Manid was scratching on the window. I had nightmares like

1466
01:28:33.359 --> 01:28:35.439
forever after watching that.

1467
01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:41.560
So David Soul, amazing, amazing career. Thank you so much

1468
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:45.600
for your contributions and to that really really creepy adaptation

1469
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:49.479
of Salem's Lot. So uh V, let's bring it back

1470
01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:51.199
to the living. Who would you like to say.

1471
01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:53.039
Al Well, I was going to say with David Soul.

1472
01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:57.399
Didn't he have a hit song back when in the

1473
01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:01.520
Starsky and hutch days called don't give up on This Baby.

1474
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:06.399
I seem to recall, Oh, if that could be Yeah,

1475
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:06.880
I think, I.

1476
01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:08.720
Think, yeah, I mean, I know he was known as

1477
01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:09.159
a singer.

1478
01:29:09.279 --> 01:29:15.119
Yeah, all right, So let's start out with John Snyder

1479
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:20.039
born August twenty third, nineteen fifty two. He played the

1480
01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:25.199
role of Bokra in the TNG third season episode The

1481
01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:30.560
Enemy and Aaron Connor in the fifth season episode The

1482
01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:32.239
Masterpiece Society.

1483
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:36.359
I just want to shout out John Snyder because The

1484
01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:39.399
Enemy is one of my favorite episodes of Star Trek

1485
01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:41.960
the Next Generation. It is so good and if you

1486
01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:44.720
haven't seen it for a while, you should definitely rewatch it.

1487
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:49.720
Absolutely that's Star Trek at its best right there. For sure.

1488
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:54.560
I'll have to check that out. And now an episode

1489
01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:59.800
that I watched recently, where we have Tiffany Elise Taubman

1490
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:04.560
born August twenty fifth, nineteen eighty five. She played Tresa

1491
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:10.520
in the Star Trek Voyager second season episode Innocence, and

1492
01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:14.880
that was a very poignant episode where you think that

1493
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:19.399
some creature is taking these innocent little children. Turns out

1494
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:23.960
they're doing the reverse aging thing. I guess you would

1495
01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:28.680
call it the Benjamin Button effect. But that was I

1496
01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:35.640
thought that was a good episode. Next. Eric Steinberg August

1497
01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:40.000
twenty sixth, nineteen sixty nine. He played Paul Porter in

1498
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:45.039
Star Trek First Contact and the Ankari Captain in the

1499
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:53.199
Star Trek Voyager sixth season episode Equipnip, Blip all Right,

1500
01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:57.119
Equinox Part two, which was Part one and Part two.

1501
01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:02.680
Those were intense episodes. Ken Jenkins born August twenty eighth

1502
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:07.479
andineteen forty he's the actor who played Paul Stubbs in

1503
01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:14.600
the Star Trek Next Gen third season episode Evolution. Then Last,

1504
01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:20.439
but not least, Jennifer Lean born August twenty fourth, nineteen

1505
01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:25.079
seventy four. She played Kess during the first through third

1506
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:29.800
seasons of Star Trek Voyager and the fourth season episodes

1507
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:34.840
Scorpion Part two and The Gift, and she did reprise

1508
01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:38.399
the role for the six season episode, which I thought

1509
01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:44.199
totally was dreadful and did her no favors. But that

1510
01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:48.000
episode of Fury where she comes back and she seems

1511
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:52.079
to forget that Jane Way tried to help her. Now

1512
01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:55.760
she's coming back trying to destroy the ship. But anyway,

1513
01:31:55.800 --> 01:32:02.319
Happy birthday to Jennifer. All right, Oh let's see.

1514
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:05.560
So Eric, you want to do some living people.

1515
01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:09.479
Yeah, sure, I'll take Paul's birthdays. This week, we're gonna

1516
01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:12.800
say Happy birthday to Melinda Page Hamilton, the American actress

1517
01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:17.560
who made her television acting debut as Feasal Flox in

1518
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:21.159
The Star Trek Enterprise second season episode Stigma. And if

1519
01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:24.920
that last name sounds familiar, that's probably because she is

1520
01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:28.960
the second of doctor Phlox's many, many wives. So, Melinda

1521
01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:31.960
Page Hamilton, thank you so much for your contributions to

1522
01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:35.319
Star Trek. Your birthday is August twenty second, and of

1523
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:37.560
course you're still with us despite the fact that I

1524
01:32:37.600 --> 01:32:42.119
am reading your birthday stuff. Happy birthday as well to

1525
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:47.000
Bobby Sue Luther born August twenty seventh. She's an American

1526
01:32:47.079 --> 01:32:51.039
model turned actress who played an unnamed Orion slave girl

1527
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:55.359
in the Star Trek Enterprise four season episode Borderland. A

1528
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:59.079
new take on the Orions, I will say as Star

1529
01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:01.840
Trek Enterprise has kind of a cool thing going with

1530
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:04.880
the Orions. Although they leaned into the slave girl thing

1531
01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:07.680
kind a heart, so, you know, Bobby Sue, thank you.

1532
01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:12.920
Stephanie Belding is somebody we'd like to say Happy birthday too.

1533
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:15.880
She's only fifty three years old. She's an actress who

1534
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:20.159
portrayed Shira in Star Trek Discovery's third season episode Unification

1535
01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:24.119
Part three. Little did we know we would actually get

1536
01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:26.840
a part three to an episode that was how many

1537
01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:29.920
years old? Thirty years old, something like that. Stephanie Bulding,

1538
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.760
thank you so much for keeping the story going for

1539
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:36.760
us in Star Trek Discovery. Discovery. What a great series,

1540
01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:41.439
and what a great continuation of that ongoing story. Happy

1541
01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:47.560
Birthday as well. Coup two Costulo Guera, an Argentinian actor

1542
01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:51.720
who played Mendoza in the Next Generation third season episode

1543
01:33:52.319 --> 01:33:56.399
The Price. Happy Birthday, Costulo, and last, but not least

1544
01:33:56.439 --> 01:33:59.760
on this list, Happy Birthday too. Guess who?

1545
01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:01.640
Melissa Navia.

1546
01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:04.920
That's right, the actress who plays Erica Ortegas in Star

1547
01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:08.159
Trek Stange New Worlds. And I don't think it's too

1548
01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:13.720
much for me to say that Erica slash Melissa. We

1549
01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:18.880
freaking love you girl. Your character is amazing. We love

1550
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:24.319
your attitude. On the Bridge. We love your occasional insubordination

1551
01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:29.279
and yet total commitment towards Starfleet ideals. The writing for

1552
01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:32.239
your character is fantastic, and Melissa Navia is doing a

1553
01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:37.319
great job totally nailing this character of Eric Ortegas. Thank

1554
01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:39.600
you so much for your Star Trek contributions. You are

1555
01:34:39.720 --> 01:34:42.079
just like Krem de la Krem when it comes to

1556
01:34:42.159 --> 01:34:46.800
Star Trek actresses. So, Jim, that does it for Paul's

1557
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.479
list of birthdays? Who else would you like to talk

1558
01:34:49.479 --> 01:34:50.079
about today?

1559
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:55.079
And let's not forget she flies the ship.

1560
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:57.840
She does fly this. They leaned kind of hard into

1561
01:34:57.880 --> 01:35:00.399
that too, but yeah, no, she does fly the ship.

1562
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:00.920
That is true.

1563
01:35:01.479 --> 01:35:04.319
I really, I really like her, and I hope that

1564
01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:07.279
she doesn't end up as Gorn fodder because we know

1565
01:35:07.399 --> 01:35:10.399
she doesn't end up on Kirk's enterprise, so I hope

1566
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:11.800
that they do her show.

1567
01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:13.319
She'll go somewhere else.

1568
01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:16.000
And she's already been stabbed through the gut with Gorn

1569
01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:19.399
grossness and lived to tell the tales. So I have

1570
01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:21.119
a feeling she's in it for the long haul.

1571
01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:24.079
Yeah, she's gonna be around for a while. So I

1572
01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:28.960
only have two birthdays and I always take the Klingons obviously,

1573
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:34.960
but my first one, I've got to wish a very happy,

1574
01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:41.079
incredibly happy birthday to the highly talented, incredible Christopher Pine.

1575
01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:44.600
Who the hell is Christopher Pine. He plays Kirk in

1576
01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:47.800
the JJ Abrams movie Star Trek, Star Trek Into Darkness,

1577
01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:50.960
and Star Trek Beyond, and I think that I think

1578
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:56.359
the casting for these movies was perfect, particularly Bones carbl

1579
01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:59.520
urban Is Bones is incredible, and I think Chris Pine

1580
01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:02.039
played a great Captain Kirk. And if it wasn't for

1581
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:04.079
the chemistry that these guys had, I don't know if

1582
01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:05.920
we would have Discovery or the Star Trek that we

1583
01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:09.560
have today. Because these movies, fans can hate them if

1584
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.800
they want. That's fine, you have a right to do that.

1585
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:15.840
But I think that these movies right here proved to

1586
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:19.600
the bean counters that Star Trek lives and that they

1587
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:23.079
can make money on Star Trek and it's an equitable investment.

1588
01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:26.479
And because of that we have this, you know, Star

1589
01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:29.880
Trek franchise still around. So happy birthday to Chris Pine,

1590
01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:35.359
and thank you for playing Captain Kirk. And my last birthday,

1591
01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:43.600
we want to say Copra or Joe Lantru to Brian Thompson.

1592
01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:48.800
He's an actor from Ellensburg, Washington who appeared in several

1593
01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:51.960
episodes of Star Trek, The Next Generation, Deep Space nine,

1594
01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:57.279
and Enterprise. He appeared as in Glantu. In the DS

1595
01:36:57.399 --> 01:37:03.359
nine's episode Rules of Acquisition, he appeared as Tomron Toros,

1596
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:08.039
and DS nine's To the Death he appeared as Admiral

1597
01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:12.600
Valdoor at Enterprise is Babel won United and the Enar.

1598
01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:15.800
That's the one where they were controlling They had to

1599
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:21.319
telepathic Nar the White Andrian, and they were controlling her

1600
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:25.880
to attack other ships with this shape shifting ship. And

1601
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:29.680
I'm not sure if the Valdor, if the Romulin class

1602
01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:32.920
Valdor ship and Star Trek Attack wing was named after him,

1603
01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:36.159
or he was named after the ship. But his name

1604
01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:39.319
is Valdor, and the ships that we see, the Romulin

1605
01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:43.800
ships that we see are also Valdor class. Coincidence could be.

1606
01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:48.479
But the main reason why we mentioned him is because

1607
01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:50.680
he appeared as a Klingon in what I think is

1608
01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:56.159
one of the best Klingon episodes TNG a matter of Honor,

1609
01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:58.800
he played Lieutenant Klag and there he is right there

1610
01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:01.760
on the screen. And if you guys haven't seen it,

1611
01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:04.279
or if you don't remember, this is the one where

1612
01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:08.439
Riker is in the exchange program and he beams over

1613
01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:12.520
to the park and to be the first officer, meets

1614
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:16.680
Clagg right there. He's gonna take on not one, but

1615
01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:20.880
two Klingon women and he eats Gock and the whole

1616
01:38:20.960 --> 01:38:26.000
fit Klingons want to attack the Enterprise, and well, go

1617
01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:29.800
and watch it. It's excellent because Riker really shows off

1618
01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:34.319
as Chops and earns the respect of Clag. So happy

1619
01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:37.560
birthday to Brian Thompson and Jim.

1620
01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:42.800
In case you're interested. Because Valdor was from that earlier

1621
01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:47.159
time frame and the Star Trek attack wing ships come

1622
01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:50.199
much later. The ships were definitely named for the admiral,

1623
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:54.319
So okay, admiral first ships, later ships later.

1624
01:38:54.439 --> 01:38:58.439
There you have it. So Brian Thompson and if you

1625
01:38:58.479 --> 01:39:02.560
guys watched the X Files, you might recognize him, so

1626
01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:04.439
go and check him out. On the X Files, he

1627
01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:08.079
played the alien bounty hunter as well. So we went

1628
01:39:08.079 --> 01:39:09.960
out of order a little bit because I just had

1629
01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:12.319
to have Paul get into toy story because he's our

1630
01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:15.960
toy guy. So we're going to go back now to

1631
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:19.640
our Star Trek news, which means.

1632
01:39:21.159 --> 01:39:24.760
Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secure channel.

1633
01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:31.319
Incoming transmission enter authorization code, command codes verified.

1634
01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:38.439
Define parameters of program level nine authorization required, specifying parameters

1635
01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:45.000
Transfer updata is complete. A B alert black alert.

1636
01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:47.680
All right, guys. As part of the show is where

1637
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:51.000
I try to collect some interesting Star Trek stories, some

1638
01:39:51.159 --> 01:39:53.199
news things that are of interest to me that I

1639
01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:56.720
hope are of interest to you. You can find all

1640
01:39:56.760 --> 01:40:00.399
of these stories in their entirety on our Facebook page

1641
01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:04.680
Truk Talking and Beyond. And as I said at the

1642
01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:06.479
top of the show, this is one of our favorite

1643
01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:08.640
segments that we like to do. And I will turn

1644
01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:09.399
it over to Eric.

1645
01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:13.960
Yes, this is my personal favorite. Chatner says, what that's right.

1646
01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:17.560
He's in the news again. Actor William Shatner, ninety four

1647
01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:20.399
years old now or should I say ninety four years young,

1648
01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:25.560
announces some personal news. William Shatner, best known as Star

1649
01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.520
Trek's Captain Kirk of the Starship Enterprise, continues to be

1650
01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:32.960
a force of nature. From his memorable role on Star

1651
01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:36.680
Trek to his real life journey into space, Shatner is

1652
01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:42.199
constantly exploring new frontiers in his incredible career on screen,

1653
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:46.279
on stage, and even on the page. He recently took

1654
01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:49.840
to his official Instagram to announce a deeply personal new

1655
01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:54.039
project that will reflect on his most iconic roles and

1656
01:40:54.199 --> 01:40:57.199
celebrate the people who made Star Trek the phenomenon it

1657
01:40:57.239 --> 01:41:02.560
continues to be today, his fans. He says, my dear followers,

1658
01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:05.640
I wanted to drop a bit of a teaser. A teaser,

1659
01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:10.239
Shatner wrote, I'm writing a new book. Even better, the

1660
01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:13.840
book is all about you, the fans, and you can

1661
01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:16.479
be a part of it, maybe even be in it.

1662
01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:17.560
That's right.

1663
01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:20.920
According to the website Shatner shared to be a part

1664
01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:25.960
of the new book entitled William Shatner and you fans

1665
01:41:26.039 --> 01:41:29.640
need to pre order the book before December thirty. First,

1666
01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:32.640
when you pre order, fans will have the opportunity to

1667
01:41:32.640 --> 01:41:36.319
submit stories about how Shatner's most iconic characters, from Star

1668
01:41:36.359 --> 01:41:41.119
Trek's Kirk to Denny Crane of Boston Legal, have impacted

1669
01:41:41.159 --> 01:41:46.199
their lives. From those narratives, a select few will be

1670
01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:51.520
interviewed by Shatner himself and featured in the book. Hold

1671
01:41:51.560 --> 01:41:54.560
on to your Phaser, Shatner wrote on his website, this

1672
01:41:54.720 --> 01:41:56.960
isn't just a chance to own a piece of history.

1673
01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:00.920
It's an opportunity to make history, to have your voice

1674
01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:07.640
echo across the galaxy alongside mine. Wow, what a cool opportunity.

1675
01:42:07.720 --> 01:42:09.840
It does feel a little bit like winning the lottery.

1676
01:42:10.479 --> 01:42:14.399
I can imagine that, like many, many, many people, we'll

1677
01:42:14.399 --> 01:42:17.399
be trying to get in on this v Have you

1678
01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:18.239
pre ordered your.

1679
01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:18.880
Copy of No?

1680
01:42:19.039 --> 01:42:23.640
I have not, because I'm trying to think what sort

1681
01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:27.720
of a what could I write that would you know,

1682
01:42:27.880 --> 01:42:32.439
practically guarantee me a chance to be interviewed by Shatner.

1683
01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:35.920
I think you're not alone.

1684
01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:40.439
I know there's five hundred million people.

1685
01:42:40.319 --> 01:42:45.359
Trying to I have to confess that I ordered the

1686
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:47.960
book and I wrote him a lengthy story about how

1687
01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:51.840
wonderful Star Trek five is, what a great director he is,

1688
01:42:52.520 --> 01:42:54.640
and I just went on and on and on and

1689
01:42:54.720 --> 01:43:00.399
really stroked up his ego. So hopefully, hopefully I'll be

1690
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:01.800
in it. But we'll see.

1691
01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:03.920
It's a pretty pretty solid choice there, Jim.

1692
01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:06.680
Yeah, I can't imagine there are that many people that

1693
01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:08.560
are going to bring that much love for Star Trek

1694
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:12.439
five to the to the party, way to go.

1695
01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:16.079
You guys know it's that, It's true. It's I mean,

1696
01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:18.640
I it's you know, it is my favorite movie. And

1697
01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:22.840
talking to Lawrence Luck and Bill was awesome. Spice Williams

1698
01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:26.000
was awesome. So you know, maybe I'll maybe maybe he'll

1699
01:43:26.039 --> 01:43:27.479
have me in his book and I'll have him on

1700
01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:28.119
the podcast.

1701
01:43:29.079 --> 01:43:31.880
That would be unbelievable. And if we know that if

1702
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:35.640
there's anything mister Shantner likes to talk about, it is himself.

1703
01:43:36.439 --> 01:43:45.239
Yeah, yeah, that that is true, That's very true. I mean,

1704
01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:49.880
I don't know. It seems to me, it seems like

1705
01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:52.239
a gimmick. It seems like a way to pump up

1706
01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:53.279
sales of his book.

1707
01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:57.279
And do you know, it totally does.

1708
01:43:57.600 --> 01:44:00.960
And yet there is going to be a certain number

1709
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:02.960
of fans who make it into the book, right or

1710
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:04.680
there are going to be a certain number of fans

1711
01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:06.279
that make it in the book, And so you know,

1712
01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:11.039
the selection criteria I'm sure will be very interesting, like

1713
01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:17.600
what's he feeling that night? Which story perhaps piques his interest?

1714
01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:22.800
Who knows? It's a total gimmick, But but you know,

1715
01:44:24.199 --> 01:44:31.079
has he earned the right probably, you know, probably he's Shatner.

1716
01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:33.720
He can do whatever he wants.

1717
01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:37.680
He can do whatever he god.

1718
01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:46.319
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not really you know.

1719
01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:51.720
I think you're gonna get selected Jim, Like, honestly, I

1720
01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:53.880
think you're in like the top like ten percent of

1721
01:44:53.960 --> 01:44:55.000
possibilities here.

1722
01:44:55.439 --> 01:44:56.920
Yeah, then I'll have to have him come on the

1723
01:44:56.960 --> 01:44:59.760
podcast and talk about Star Trek five. You guys don't

1724
01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:01.039
have be here if you don't want to.

1725
01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:04.119
No, no, I have to hear him talk about it.

1726
01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:08.399
I want to be here this yam and talk to

1727
01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:09.800
him about the triple episode.

1728
01:45:10.439 --> 01:45:14.680
There you go. So William Shatner and you guys, is

1729
01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:18.079
there a way for people? Is there an email address

1730
01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:20.880
or a website or anything. Not that I want people

1731
01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:23.520
to compete with me, but you know, for our fans.

1732
01:45:24.560 --> 01:45:27.880
I do think that. Uh yeah, you can pre order

1733
01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:32.600
it on William Shatner and you dot com and that's

1734
01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:34.279
probably your easiest way to do it. I'm sure you

1735
01:45:34.279 --> 01:45:37.720
could get it from your local uh you know, bookstore

1736
01:45:37.920 --> 01:45:39.640
or from Amazon or something too. But if you go

1737
01:45:39.640 --> 01:45:43.279
to William shatneranu dot com, I'm sure that's the one

1738
01:45:43.319 --> 01:45:44.359
that's going to get his attention.

1739
01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:47.920
If you want to come up to takanor Roga New

1740
01:45:48.039 --> 01:45:50.760
York in November, he's going to be here for William

1741
01:45:50.800 --> 01:45:53.479
Shatner Weekend. I think it's his ninety seventh visit up

1742
01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:56.359
here or something like that. Uh, he will be here

1743
01:45:56.880 --> 01:45:58.319
and you can come up and talk to him in

1744
01:45:58.319 --> 01:46:01.159
person and check out the original series set to our

1745
01:46:01.239 --> 01:46:05.680
wire there and maybe no, it'll be winters. Maybe maybe

1746
01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:08.479
you'll be able to meet Uncle Jim and touch his battlets.

1747
01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:10.279
I'm not sure if I'm going to go up there.

1748
01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:13.880
And the weather can be kind of tough sometimes that

1749
01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:16.479
time of year, and Tykonderoga is way up in the

1750
01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:17.279
middle of nowhere.

1751
01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:21.039
But Jim's right, the said tour is one hundred percent

1752
01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:21.399
worth it.

1753
01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:21.680
Man.

1754
01:46:21.800 --> 01:46:24.359
Just to be on that set and to sit in

1755
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:26.600
the captain's chair is pretty special.

1756
01:46:27.279 --> 01:46:29.720
It is cool. And there's a gorn up there too.

1757
01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:32.119
And there's a corn and there's a I.

1758
01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:34.680
Mean, the old joint is is pretty cool. Yeah, just

1759
01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:37.760
walking down the corridor is even fine. Actually, I not

1760
01:46:37.800 --> 01:46:39.800
to like digress too much, but like, one of the

1761
01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:44.000
areas that I thought was coolest about the Tykwon Taikonderoga

1762
01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:48.520
set was the medical bay and the like medical bed

1763
01:46:48.760 --> 01:46:51.039
and all of the like readouts and stuff. And there's

1764
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:54.760
like Captain Kirk's quarters, and then there's the ready room

1765
01:46:54.840 --> 01:46:56.800
with the triangular screen. I mean, there's so many cool

1766
01:46:56.840 --> 01:46:57.520
things to see.

1767
01:46:58.079 --> 01:46:59.760
It is neat, It's definitely worth it.

1768
01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:04.359
On the medical bed and McRoy says he's dead.

1769
01:47:04.439 --> 01:47:09.640
Jim, I'm sure if he greased the right bollm, you

1770
01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:10.319
could do that. V.

1771
01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:15.239
Yeah, and I'm a business card telling me from Trek talking.

1772
01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:17.399
Yeah, definitely.

1773
01:47:19.079 --> 01:47:21.960
All right. So V has our next story for Yu,

1774
01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:22.720
which is an.

1775
01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:30.560
Interesting Scott Bacula's Star Trek comeback. Oh boy, uh did

1776
01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:31.800
you get that reference?

1777
01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:33.039
Oh boy?

1778
01:47:33.319 --> 01:47:37.680
Yeah, all right, thanks got it, thank you.

1779
01:47:37.720 --> 01:47:41.800
That's what that's I was a huge fan of Quantum Leap.

1780
01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:45.840
All right, all right, So Scott Bacula is eying a

1781
01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:50.079
return to Star Trek in a new TV series twenty

1782
01:47:50.199 --> 01:47:55.840
years after playing Captain Jonathan archern Star Trek Enterprise. Bacula

1783
01:47:56.239 --> 01:48:01.319
led Enterprise for four seasons on the upn After Enterprise

1784
01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:05.880
was canceled in two thousand and five, Bacula Winnen went

1785
01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:08.640
on to start in two and a half Men and

1786
01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:12.079
Ncis New Orleans, which was I watched that that. He

1787
01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:16.560
was great in that. He earned his fifth Primetime Emmy

1788
01:48:16.680 --> 01:48:23.399
Award nomination for Behind the Candelabra. Star Trek Enterprise has

1789
01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:28.079
gained a greater following and appreciation in recent years, prompting

1790
01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:31.199
hopes that Scott Bacula would return in Star Trek the

1791
01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:36.960
way Patrick Stewart reprised Jean Luke Picard in Star Trek Picard.

1792
01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:42.199
After years away, Bacula has renewed his ties to Star Trek,

1793
01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:47.159
appearing at the Peabody Awards, guesting on the Dcon Chamber

1794
01:48:47.279 --> 01:48:51.520
podcast Hmm he needs to be on our podcast too,

1795
01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:57.600
uh huh, and making his first appearance since twenty sixteen

1796
01:48:58.439 --> 01:49:03.479
at STO the Truck to bagas twenty twenty five convention.

1797
01:49:04.520 --> 01:49:09.159
Star Trek United would be about Jonathan Archer's time as

1798
01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:15.199
President of the United Federation of Planets. The Scott Bacula's

1799
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:20.399
proposed series would be a political thriller and a family

1800
01:49:20.479 --> 01:49:25.159
drama set in those chaotic formative years of the Federation.

1801
01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:30.000
This was an idea that excited that an excited Bacula

1802
01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:35.399
was really intrigued by. Susman hopes Star Trek United would

1803
01:49:35.439 --> 01:49:38.600
do for Star Trek what Andor did for Star Wars.

1804
01:49:39.560 --> 01:49:42.880
As a show where you can tell adult stories about

1805
01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:47.119
adults and tell them in a very grounded, realistic way,

1806
01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:51.720
Susman says, Bacula likes the idea of a different take

1807
01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:55.960
on Jonathan Archer, and Star Trek United offers a different

1808
01:49:56.000 --> 01:50:00.159
direction for the former Starship Captain in order to to

1809
01:50:00.239 --> 01:50:04.960
avoid conflict with Star Trek Starfleet Academy, which is set

1810
01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:10.039
in outer space in San Francisco, Susman's changed Star Trek

1811
01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:14.640
United setting to the planet Babbel, tying it closer to

1812
01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:18.159
Star Trek the original series as a journeyed to Battle,

1813
01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:24.039
which introduced Babbel as a galactic diplomatic hub. Of course,

1814
01:50:24.039 --> 01:50:27.079
Star Trek United would be set in the late twenty

1815
01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:33.920
second century, one thousand years before Starfleet Academy. New Paramount

1816
01:50:33.960 --> 01:50:38.560
CEO David Ellison is a Star Trek fan who executive

1817
01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:43.640
produced Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond. Ellison

1818
01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:48.279
also announced that Paramount will have a new focus on streaming,

1819
01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:55.640
promising we are committed to increasing investment in premium exclusive content.

1820
01:50:56.880 --> 01:51:06.800
All right, bring back lower decks. That's an interesting, interesting show.

1821
01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:12.640
I just say that I am like totally psyched and

1822
01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:17.680
stoked for this because I feel that Enterprise really missed

1823
01:51:17.680 --> 01:51:21.159
the boat when they didn't go to the Birth of

1824
01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:23.920
the Federation. They had Shrand, they had all the character,

1825
01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:26.840
they had everything set up and they just decided to

1826
01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:29.600
go off on Zindi, Cold Wars and all kinds of

1827
01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:32.920
other stuff and didn't focus on the birth of the Federation.

1828
01:51:33.079 --> 01:51:36.359
And I, for me, that's what I wanted from Enterprise.

1829
01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:39.239
I don't know about about you, guys, but I wanted

1830
01:51:39.239 --> 01:51:42.159
to see the formation of the Federation and they didn't

1831
01:51:42.159 --> 01:51:44.439
give it to us. So if this is the case

1832
01:51:44.479 --> 01:51:46.560
and they they want to do this with Archer, I'm

1833
01:51:46.640 --> 01:51:48.880
I'm down for this, guys. I think this would be

1834
01:51:49.039 --> 01:51:56.720
absolutely awesome. Jeffrey Combs, I mean, you know, it has

1835
01:51:56.800 --> 01:51:58.439
been a long road getting from there to.

1836
01:51:58.439 --> 01:52:02.640
Hear all right.

1837
01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:06.399
That is the one Star Trek theme song that I

1838
01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:10.199
just cannot Sorry, I tried, I just cannot.

1839
01:52:12.239 --> 01:52:15.119
Yeah, you know, Eric wrote a I don't have it

1840
01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:19.439
on this particular platform, but Eric wrote a really awesome

1841
01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:25.840
UH I wish I could find it Enterprise parody theme song,

1842
01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:28.079
but I don't have it to play for you guys.

1843
01:52:28.119 --> 01:52:31.199
But Eric, what are you do you think this would

1844
01:52:31.199 --> 01:52:32.239
make a good series?

1845
01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:34.399
I absolutely do.

1846
01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:38.479
Yeah, I mean I since day one on this podcast,

1847
01:52:38.520 --> 01:52:43.760
I have touted UH Star Trek Enterprise as an underappreciated series,

1848
01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:47.199
and yeah, there are some Zindi things in there that

1849
01:52:47.279 --> 01:52:49.039
get kind of boring after a while. But there are

1850
01:52:49.039 --> 01:52:53.039
some fantastic episodes of Star Trek Enterprise that really are

1851
01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:59.359
very tricky, and I like the kind of raw cowboy

1852
01:52:59.520 --> 01:53:03.079
nature of the series when it first starts. You know,

1853
01:53:03.199 --> 01:53:06.079
humans are kind of jerks, and I sort of like

1854
01:53:06.199 --> 01:53:10.560
that different take. They're not the Jean Loue Pocard perfect

1855
01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:14.239
Starfleet folks that there are. I'd be interested to see

1856
01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:18.920
Jonathan Archer in a different light because he was one

1857
01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:22.479
of those jerks right at the beginning. But clearly he

1858
01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:25.159
would be changed by the Zindi War. Clearly he would

1859
01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:28.399
be changed by the fact that seven million people were

1860
01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:32.960
lost when the Zindi weapon attacked Florida and killed Tripp's family.

1861
01:53:33.199 --> 01:53:37.640
So I'd be very interested in seeing this kind of

1862
01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:43.279
a series. You know, I've been quoted as saying certain

1863
01:53:43.319 --> 01:53:48.039
things about Scott Baculu's acting ability, but the character of

1864
01:53:48.119 --> 01:53:51.119
Jonathan Archer, I think is a fantastic character and I

1865
01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:52.960
would absolutely love to see this series.

1866
01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:56.359
Yeah. Yeah, And I think the fact that he's been

1867
01:53:56.399 --> 01:53:59.159
on so much other than Star Trek, I think they're

1868
01:53:59.199 --> 01:54:04.560
banking on him drawing fans from Cross pollination type of thing.

1869
01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:06.800
You know, fans that were, you know, fans of him

1870
01:54:06.800 --> 01:54:09.479
on CSI and whatnot, would check the show out. And

1871
01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:13.640
setting it on a planet versus a starship, I think

1872
01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:17.479
would attract fans that might not watch a starship based show.

1873
01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:21.439
Well, yeah, Jim, and I think the the which you

1874
01:54:21.479 --> 01:54:23.840
alluded to, I think the sort of weak ending of

1875
01:54:23.920 --> 01:54:27.399
Star Trek Enterprise would actually draw more fans in because

1876
01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:29.880
they would see it as an opportunity to sort of,

1877
01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:34.920
you know, give give that series a different ending, so

1878
01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:38.279
to speak, than the Holo Deck recreation that it ended

1879
01:54:38.319 --> 01:54:38.720
up being.

1880
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:43.079
And we might actually see Trip Tucker as well. Depending

1881
01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:46.439
on how far in the future they go. Trip might

1882
01:54:46.479 --> 01:54:48.279
not be dead yet, or maybe that was all a

1883
01:54:48.279 --> 01:54:49.760
Holodeck dream and it never happened.

1884
01:54:52.920 --> 01:54:56.399
We can debate that on another show another show.

1885
01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:00.399
Well, from what V also mentioned that this would cut

1886
01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:05.039
in twenty years after Enterprise, and it's been twenty years

1887
01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:08.960
to this date, well from the last episode came out

1888
01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.880
in May, but that was two thousand and five when

1889
01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:15.520
it came out, and so this is twenty years now later.

1890
01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:19.960
So if they start filming, he's gonna look twenty years older.

1891
01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:23.880
So it's gonna be kind of interesting to see how

1892
01:55:24.039 --> 01:55:24.680
they take it.

1893
01:55:26.359 --> 01:55:29.520
I think they have the potential for a really interesting,

1894
01:55:29.680 --> 01:55:34.399
really good show, show us something we haven't seen before,

1895
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the Federation being diplomatic and getting all the you know,

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reaching out to the Polians, meeting the Polians, getting all

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these people together and not necessarily flying around in spaceships

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but actually doing the nitty gritty, you know well.

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And Jim hopefully recapturing some of that. We don't exactly

1900
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know what we're doing aspect of Star Trek Enterprise, you know,

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I want to see the beginnings of the Federation not

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being perfect. I want to see them making bad decisions

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and you know, trying to do things like living with

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their hearts and trying to make good decisions but not

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always getting it right because they haven't totally figured it

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out yet.

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Yeah, I think yeah, between this and Star Trek Year

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one with the Strange New World's Kirk and Scottie and

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that cast and Starfleet Academy, I think Star Trek has

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a great future and I'm looking forward to seeing where

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they take it and be a part of it and

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get as many of them can on the podcast. So well, guys,

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look at the Clock you know what time it is.

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We did it.

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Wow, it's time just flies right by. So next week

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we're going to be talking about four and a half Vulcans,

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and I got to I'm going to give you, guys,

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I already watched it. I got to give you guys

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a little tidbit. You need to watch all the way

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to the end of the credits, okay, because this Star

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Trek doesn't do this very often. They did it once

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with the Trouble with Trouble with Edward. They had an

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after credit scene with the with the Triple Cereal. So

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when the episode ends, don't just shut it off. Watch

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it all the way to the end because there's an

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end credit scene, just to warn you guys. All Right,

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So that's the episode we're going to be talking about.

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Next week, we'll have more birthdays and uh, I'll have

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some more trivia and I'll try not to do them

1930
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all about Pellia this time. I'll try to come around.

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It's just that Pellia had so many you know, she

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said so many things that stuck in my brain that

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they just all popped out all at once, and she

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just had Pelia on the phone and it was it

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was good.

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I mean I think they were. Yeah, she she like

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we said before, she's she's actually starting to grow on

1938
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me and not being quite as annoying as she first was.

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So yeah, she's an interesting character, so that I'm surprised

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that she's not talking like Yoda, I know, talking backwards.

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So I just I just want to take this opportunity

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to say thank you so much to Paul for hanging

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out and Trek talking with us and that the enthusiasm

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that he brings to the Star Trek toy line. So

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thank you. Thank you so much to Paul, and thank

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01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:25.439
you so much to Eric for hanging out and Trek

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talking with us tonight. Thank you so much, Eric, you.

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Bet, thank you all fun hanging out.

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And thank you to v as well for hanging out

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and Trek talking with us and doing some new stories

1951
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and just having some fun.

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Thank you for always always a blast.

1953
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And of course David, our miracle worker, the man himself,

1954
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our version of mister Scott. Thank you so much David

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for coming on the podcast and all the work you

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do on it.

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Yeah, it's been fun. I got one more clip at

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the very end if you guys wanted to play it

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after we say goodbye.

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Okay, well that'll be it. That'll be an off air special,

1961
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and I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim saying, everybody

1962
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please stay safe and be good to each other. I

1963
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remember Star Trek fans are the best fans. Good Night, everybody, night.

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Good night y'all, all stations.

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I'm ready for departure, sir.

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Some problem, right, I'm just hoping this isn't the usual

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way of mission stall.

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Build said, Oh no, not about it. I'm sure most

1969
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will be much more interesting. Let's see what's out there.

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Engage