Aug. 9, 2025

Episode 649- SNW "A Space Adventure Hour" discussion

Episode 649- SNW "A Space Adventure Hour" discussion
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In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and his Cohosts introduce themselves and discuss the latest happenings in the Star Trek universe, including fan shout outs, trivia segments, and community engagement. They explore the importance of following commands in Starfleet, reflect on character portrayals, and share diverse fan reactions to the latest episode. The podcast emphasizes the fun and educational aspects of Star Trek, encouraging listeners to participate in future polls and discussions. In this episode, the hosts discuss the latest installment of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, focusing on character dynamics, fan reactions, and the balance between humor and canon. They explore the visual and auditory elements of the episode, as well as its meta commentary on the Star Trek franchise. The conversation also touches on the importance of nostalgia and continuity in fan perceptions, concluding with ratings and upcoming news in the Star Trek universe. HIT IT!
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We do I need to wear pants and.

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Jim be done to fixed pripple NPC can heavily cannot

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see bumblebee Kane, I'm a doctor wrankling online. Old Bob said,

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world stories that will kist in turn bout hoss Cemita

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and Latusha Yark Flash Gordon.

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Protest, don't through prison.

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Corol and Wars teams holding tweaky Johnny against.

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About series, about the series.

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This show.

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Series.

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Well, good evening, Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe. It

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It's Thursday, August seventh, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode

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six hundred and forty nine of Trek Talking. I'my most

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excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast. We've got

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a great show plan for you guys tonight. Tonight we're

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going to be talking about Strange New Worlds, a space

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adventure hour. And I gotta tell you one thing. I'm

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an actor, damn it, not a doctor. So we're gonna

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talk a little bit about that a little bit later.

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You guys can head over to Trek Talking and Beyond

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run for us, and for only two dollars a month

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that you see up on the screen and every one

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of our well most of our episodes are found there,

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so please check that out. Before I get too far, though,

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I'd like to go around the room and introduce my

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incredible co host. We'll start off with Paul the Toy

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guy himself. He's out in Portland. How you doing tonight? Paul?

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Hey, Uncle Jim, I'm doing okay. It has been an

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interesting week out here in the Pacific Northwest, but ultimately

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a good one. So excited to revisit this episode with you. Yeah,

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the publy cohorts.

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The smoke from Canada is just awful here and it's

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just amazing. And we also have not from Portland, but

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from Virginia. We have our own v How you doing tonight? V?

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Doing all right. We finally have some cooler weather, so,

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as the expression goes around here, we are no longer

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living on Hell's front porch. So that's a good thing.

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That is a good thing, very good thing. And we

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have tonight with us as well, our very own miracle

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worker himself, David. And guess where he's from. That's right,

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he's from Portland. How you doing a.

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I'm doing pretty good. I got my trouble back, so

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that's pretty good.

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Yeah, he's munching on some veggies, it looks like. And

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we also have with us Charles. Charles is out in

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Las Vegas. How you doing tonight, Charles.

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I'm doing good. Our weather's trying to pick up a

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little bit, but not too bad. But it was a

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long day, so we got to get ready for students

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starting on Monday.

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Awesome, awesome, And we're gonna head right back out to

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Portland again and we're gonna say hello to Eric. How

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you doing today?

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Eric?

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I am doing great, Jim. And you know it is

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a it is a little known fact actually that I

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wrote the book actually on space jurisdiction, and I am

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known for my diction.

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Okay, all right, well we will.

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Maybe I just didn't deliver that with enough shatns.

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Diction. I can't go.

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Trying to say I know what you want to say.

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Oh boy, As I said, guys, we have a great

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show for you tonight. Not only do are we going

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to talk about strange New Worlds a space adventure hour,

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but we also have our fans shout outs, and that's

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where we say thank you to fans just like you

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for supporting this podcast. We also have our Star Trek polls,

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con returns and Ortegas is in subordinate hmm. Interesting. We

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also have some trivia with Uncle Jim, which should be interesting.

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We haven't done that in a while, but David asked

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me to bring it back, so we're going to do

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it tonight. And what Star Trek actor do you share

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a birthday with? Find out on our Star Trek Birthday segment.

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And a last but lot neast, what's going on around

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the Star Trek universe. Could we be seeing Cybock return?

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I hope, And of course we are going to be

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talking a little bit about the Muppets as well, one

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of Victoria's favorite topics. And while you're over why you're

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over at Trek talking and beyond on Facebook give us

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a like and a follow, and look for the pinned

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Livelong and prosper post at the top of the page

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asking where you are listening from. We have lots of emojis,

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guess my attention. If you see a heart next to

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your name from yours truly, then you want to tune

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into the next podcast because your name is going to

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be featured like these lucky fans. Take it away, Eric.

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All right, Jim. The first shout out that I'm going

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to offer up this week is from right there in

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the middle of Europe, and we're going to say hello

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this week, and thank you so much for listening to

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Maria Caldevida, who's saying hello to us from Hulton, Onse

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and that is in the North Rhine Westphalia area of

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Deutsch Lan. Maria, thank you so much for saying hello

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to us and for giving us all those nitty gritty

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details about where you're from. Lots of cool regional stuff

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going on in that Rhine River area, and we really

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appreciate your support for our podcast. I'd also like to

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say hello this week to Gabor Mestian, who's saying hello

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to us from Budapest in the Hungary. My wife has

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family from Hungary, and so we've got a little bit

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of a personal connection to that amazing country. Although I

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have never been there myself, hope to make it there

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one day. Thanks Gabor for saying hello. Like to say

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hello this week as well to George f rec Rex

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SoC Facundo, who's saying hello to us from Puerto Rico. Ah,

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Puerto Rico another one of those amazing places out there

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that I have never been to. I have a lot

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of friends from there actually though, so George, thanks for

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saying hello, and I'll make sure that my friends know

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that Puerto Rico is supporting our podcast as well. And last,

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but not least on my list, I'd like to say

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hello to Antonio Brass, who is hailing from Portugal, proudly

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flying that beautiful Portuguese flag. Thanks Antonio for saying hello

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to us. Charles, I'm imagining you would like to bring

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it back to the US here, buddy, Yes.

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Thank you, Eric, thank you. Let's start off with a

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welcome to Michael Richie from Alabama. Welcome Michael Fan Gary

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Lee from Texas. Big place to be. Welcome to James

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Boyer from Northern California. I would love to spend some

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nice weather up there right now compared to we're having here.

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And welcome Terry Smith from Maryland. Welcome Terry V. Who's

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on your list?

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Well, first off, I have Julian Krotinsky from Canada, our

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neighbor to the north, and got the Vulcan hand salute there.

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Then then from your neck of the woods, I guess

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Grant's Pass Oregon, another Vulcan emoji, Chris Loopke. Then just

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a little bit up the road, Al Williams from Washington State,

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and last, but certainly not least, Nancy Brown from East Tennessee.

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So I've got all the Vulcan salutes, none of them sarcastic, though,

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but thank you all for watching. Now it's on to Paul.

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I agree, I appreciate the introduction my for him. First

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of all, let's go back to Europe if we can,

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and say hello to Arnold van Duren from the Netherlands

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with a cheerful greeting bestowed upon us here. Arnold, it

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is wonderful to hear from you. Absolutely hi on my

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list of places I'd like to visit someday. Seems like

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you are in abundant sanity over there, so I super

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envy you Arnaut. Not too far from Arnold. We're going

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to go over to Hamburg in Germany where reich Automn

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is hailing us from our Facebook Porthal. So great to

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know that these folks are all over the place here.

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And if you go a little bit further from Hamburg

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to Berlin, you would see another star Trek enthusiast who

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lives just down the road, and that's Judith Barley, who

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lives in Berlin. So fantastic to know there's so much

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UFP representation over there in the old sod fantastic news.

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And guess what it turns out we have a troika

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of German fans here tonight. That's right, we have three

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of them. It because in learnin Brandenburg, Germany, we have

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Holy Mike, which I believe is pronounced I'm pretty sure

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that's how you're supposed to say it, Holy Mike Batman.

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My audio goes to eleven. So yeah, we got a

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triumvirate of wonderful Germanic fan enthusiasts here tonight, and another

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one from the nether One. So it is a global thing.

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I'm wondering what people in Germany and nearby vicinities are

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thinking of the episode we'll be talking about tonight. Perhaps

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one of them will be on the little list shopping

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list of fan comments that Eric will read to us. Shortly,

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we shall find out what we friends. In the meantime,

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Uncle Jim will take us to the deep, dark hinderlands

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of somewhere in the five Borough area that is the

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city of New York. Uncle Jim, please continue.

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Well, I thank you, Paul. We're gonna go to the

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Big Apple, and we're gonna go to Brooklyn, New York.

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We get a heart emoji and yeah, my family's from Brooklyn,

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New York. I spent my summers down there. I wonder

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if at some point when I was down there, if

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I ran into territory Lenuso Lenoso. I wonder it's possible.

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Maybe at Coney Island, who knows. And we also want

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to say hello to Kurt Shriver who's listening to us

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in Texas. Thank you so much Kurt for being a fan.

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And the last, but not least, because I put a

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duplicate on here because I'm not perfect, we want to

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say thank you to Lacy Mackenzie, the third from Central Florida.

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So that my friends are all of our fans shout outs.

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If you would like to hear your name mentioned in

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a fan shout out, maybe see your picture up here

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on the screen. For those of you who have the

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video feed, visit us on our Facebook page at Trek

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Talk and beyond. Tell us where you're from and send

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us a picture. There's Paul getting beat up by a gorn,

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so you.

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Know, yeah, that's a shot from my last trip to

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Home Depot. I was trying to buy some lumber and

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it's about the only place that'll hire a gorn these days, right,

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you know, yeah, other other stores won't hire them, so yeah,

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they got a bad rap.

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Well let's spit eggs all over people.

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It's a mass.

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There.

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You know, what are you gonna do? You know?

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But yeah, what can you do?

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Work in a restaurant?

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The reason with.

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No it is it is for sure. So you guys

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can send us your picture and see it right up

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there with Paul's gorn picture, So please please do that.

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And now it is time for our Star Trek polls.

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And you know what that means. The polling song.

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Lino, lino, you know me like no win what you

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thought about the show? Then we try to.

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Share your opinions with all of our minions out there

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because they listen worldwide.

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So tell us just what you think.

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Get together, we will alter Canara and romulin an.

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Crack into that romulin ale right now. All right, So

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this is where we do our polls, and we ask

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you guys on our Facebook page, which you think. And

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you can go to our Facebook page Trek Talking and

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Beyond and take place in all these awesome polls. David

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Roll the tape.

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Con this is Star Trek Khan, the untold story of

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Star Trek's most legendary villain.

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The new pieces added to this puzzle by the logs

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I retrieved on SETI Alpha five only confirmed my belief

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that Con.

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Was much more than a map. Tyrant, what is it

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you hope to tieve here? Con andes people, I did?

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It is my intention to find the truth. Help me

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find the rest of the.

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Story featuring Naveen Andrews is con Cook?

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Did us pay that from this gridessence? Dust People rise?

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He is con All right, you saw it, So I

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guess you guys know what the pole question is. But

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take it away.

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Eric.

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Based on that trailer, we asked our Facebook participants, are

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you excited about the Star Trek con audio drama? And

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a solid eighty percent said heck yeah, I am excited

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about that. Twenty percent said no, and I can only

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guess that those are people who do not have ears.

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I for one, am extremely excited about it. I'm all

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about the audio drama. I listen to a lot of

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audiobooks in my car while I drive around the city

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doing various things, and so this fits right into the

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way that I like to consume my media. I'm really

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hoping that it harkens back a little bit to that

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amazing twenty ten comic book series called con Ruling in Hell, which,

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if you have not read that suggest you go back

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and check it out. Definitely covers that zone between when

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he got dropped off and when we see him later.

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So yeah, I'm super excited about it. What do you

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guys think?

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What do you think? Paul?

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Oh, well, if you're not excited about this radio drama,

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yes should be, because this has actually been ges dating

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for a while and is the brainchild of none other

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than a writer director, Nicholas Meyer, who we've been lucky

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enough to have on this show. Of course, this is

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the gentleman who conceived and directed Star Trek to the

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Wrath of Khan and Star Trek six The Undiscovered Country.

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So you know, there is no greater Star Trek luminary

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than this guy. Right. He understands drama, He understands these characters.

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and this is a heck of a cast. I mean,

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you've got Navien Andrews, who was so good on Loss,

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and I don't know if everybody is hip to Rin Schmidt,

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who they have playing Marlon mcgivers mcguivers if you want

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to shatter it up a bit there, But anybody here

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watch on Apple TV for All Mankind.

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Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, If you're not, you should be.

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But this is the same actress who plays Margot Madison

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on that show recent Defectie Margo Madison, and she's a

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dynamite performer. And the fact that they landed her in

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addition to you know, Navine and all these other folks,

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I mean, it's going to be amazing. So with this pedigree,

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I think it's super exciting. I think the chance radio

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drama you get to use your imagination, you know, and

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really visualize things and have a more interactive experience. I'm

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super excited for this thing.

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And I think it's nine nine episodes or six six

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or nine, I'm not positive, but we definitely will be

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reviewing them on this podcast a podcast reviewing a podcast, yep,

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right here. So that's something to look forward to. Anybody

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want to add anything about con before we move on.

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I was gonna say it's interesting because we don't have

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Lieutenant Sulu Captain Sulu, so it's interesting how we're going

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to tie the past and the future together.

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M I didn't. You're right, you're absolutely right. Time travel, yeah,

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time travel, Yeah.

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I suld Star Trek six though.

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No, no, I'm just it's it's interesting, I wonder.

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Yeah, it was interesting.

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Yeah, Marlene's already passed away by by two. So who

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in the combination?

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Mcgiver?

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Marla okay, Marla okay?

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And what were you going to say?

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Vic?

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I don't. I forgot now, oh oh, I just when

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I when I heard I know, when I heard George

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Takay's voice, I thought, oh my gosh, that's awesome that

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they got him on because he's he's still quite active,

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but he is. Yeah, he keeps on going. So I

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look forward to listening to this.

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He's like the energy energizer Bunny. He just goes and

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goes and goes and yes, all right, well guess what, guys,

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We have another one for you, guys, David Roll, The tape.

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Are awaiting fail the ticket at the prescheduled time. The

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transponders are active, but they are not responding to any

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health from the enterprise which means they're even having comes

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babble or something else.

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We need to.

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Get with an emergency beaming range without attracting any cling

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on attention.

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I recommend this slow approach. Buying a low impulse will

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keep splothing noise limit at the premotion their sense. Course,

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we'll not be able to tell support from the dust particles.

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Well, we have to move it a fraction of impulse

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and shut down all non essential systems.

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But if we were invisible it might be worth it.

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My calculations we would reach Canfortia in four hours.

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I can live with that ortagus plot. Of course, the

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picious box.

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Four hours, Yeah, that won't work for me.

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Explain yourself, Lieutenant, why are.

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We tiptoeing around these Klingons. It's obvious they know about

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the Captain doctr Mavenga. Our priority should be getting them

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out fast, and how do you propose we do that

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without violating a border treaty.

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Hypothetically, even if there were a way, the interference from

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the dust belt makes transporting impossible.

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I've thought about both problems.

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We warp into the planet's thermosphere energize and warp out.

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Simple warping into a low planetary orbit it's reckless.

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Have you ever done that? No, but I could.

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Such a dangerous maneuver is rarely attempted.

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I could see the oput atmosphere. Maybe we spin the

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boon in this atmosphere, our whole would be the cabbage.

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I won't let that happen.

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Also, residual warpfield prohibits transport.

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Well, and theory one could look at a signal through

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the residual field.

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I don't mean to step on Master's box to us,

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of course, but you just have to calibrate the fease

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inducers to the distortion only like really fasted.

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Yeah, so my plan checks off all the boxes.

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Where is there any evidence that Klingons know about our people?

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Total calm, silence out there, not even a whisper, and

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spots plan makes the most sense.

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You have your.

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Orders, all right? So Eric, what is the pole question

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this week?

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Okay? From the episode we reviewed last week? In the

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Strange New World's episode Shuttle Too, can foy Erica Ortigaz

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committed in subordination in an attempt to save Captain Pike

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and Doctor Benga from the Klingons. Do you agree with

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her actions? And I think there's another scene where she says, no,

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that doesn't work for me, which is the actual insubordination.

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But sixty five percent of our responders said yes, they

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agree with her actions. Thirty five percent said no. I

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can only assume those thirty five percent are people in

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the military in subordinations. Never okay, anyway, that's of course,

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of course she was justified. Of course she was, because

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that's what makes for good writing. Anybody else.

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I disagree, Well, I guess jumping.

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We go, let's go.

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We'll start with.

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In the words of in the words of Captain James T. Kirk,

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that's mutiny, mister. I mean it basically is you have

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this is a the whole history of Star Trek. It's

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very name, not this naval, but you know this naval

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and it's it's a military ship, right admittedly primarily meant

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to be a ship of exploration. But there is a

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chain of command and you have to follow it. You

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just can't go off half cocked and do what you

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want to do, right You Basically rank determines what your

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authority level is. And at the end of this episode,

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she gets come down on hard for violating it, and

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she gets relieved her duty. That's appropriate It's one of

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the few times, realistically on this show that we've seen

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the consequences of your actions because people are like, we

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will steal the US's enterprise. I mean, how many times

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does that happen? Right, Mealers go off and do it.

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There's no consequences for the behavior, and especially in a

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military situation when you're you know, way with life is

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in the line, you have all of the options presented

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to your commanding officer, who waighs all the choices then

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makes their final decision. It doesn't matter that, you know,

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she's not justified by breaking the rules. I mean, she's

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you know, maybe a good thing happened because she did

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in terms of the story, right, well, everybody that save

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sooner because she justified breaking the rules. But that doesn't

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mean that she gets off scott free. You know, it's

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great that the people got rescued, but she still broke

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the rules. And you cannot have somebody in your command

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who's going to do that. You know, she you know,

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got let off easy with the warning, but if she

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screws up again out the airlock with you, yeah, you

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cannot have that. So, yeah, she's not justified at all.

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I do not agree.

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Okay, Eric says, well, if you're a military, I am

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former military, and there is a chain of command. They

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admitted the fact that he was almost to the shuttle

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when they beamed him in, and that risked damage the ship,

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which could have been damaged the crew. Just as this

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episode we saw Scott to get lit into by not

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asking for extra help. She kind of got lit into

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because she kind of did her own thing. And I know,

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we like seeing all these great characters doing their independent things,

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but it's also a Federation ship, and federationship does have

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rules to follow.

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Yeah, and we knew as the viewers, we knew that

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the Klingons were just hired hands for Captain Bitha and

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that they actually weren't there on the behest of the

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Klingon Empire, but they didn't know that on the show.

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Pike didn't know that, and Una did not know that.

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For all they knew the Klingons were going to turn

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around and open fire on them. They didn't know the

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information that we knew, so I don't and they did

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open at that. Yeah, and that classic Star Trek five

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getaway where they warp away from the Photon torpedo like

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check Op did in Star Trek five one of the

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best movies ever made, by the way, got to throw

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that in there, but yeah, yeah, so what do you

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think David five being the best movie?

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But I mean, well, what, yeah, back was a really

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good But I have to incline to agree with Paul there,

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because yeah, that makes a lot of sense in to

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train of command where you just have to follow the rules.

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I mean, real life does not have plot on her,

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so you know. But yeah, other than that, I think

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you can still have a good show even though you

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get the in subordination ah that she got on the show,

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and I think it was in a way she did

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get in trouble for what she did. But I don't

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know if the out the airlocks should have been that

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kind of extreme type of a dishonored kind of stuff.

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But yeah, I don't know. To me, I think it's

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more of a what she got probably, but at the

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same time it probably could have been more extreme. So

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but yeah, to me, I I'm kind of in between.

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For me, I don't know, it's like I agree, but

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I don't agree show.

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Yeah, I'm kind of in the middle, all right, Switzerland.

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I mean that's that's part for the chorus, David, that's here.

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How we end up is somewhere in the middle.

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Yeah, but that.

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There are.

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Married.

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He didn't care about dating.

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All right, Well, guys, that wraps up our polls. You

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can go to Trek Talking and Beyond and vote in

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our polls. I'll try to get some more up next

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week about tonight's episode. But back by popular demand, we

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have a segment we haven't done in quite a while,

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and we do have a somewhat of a theme song play,

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and you.

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Know what that music means. It's once again time to

478
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.359
put on your thinking caps and join us for Star

479
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.640
Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim.

480
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:31.480
Okay, and that's me Uncle Jim, And we're gonna start

481
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:35.119
off with with a question for V. You're ready, V,

482
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.799
you got your thinking cap on? I do? All right?

483
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.480
What is the Riker maneuver and how is it relevant

484
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.079
to this week's episode?

485
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:46.799
All right?

486
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:51.640
This was one of my favorite bits in the Bloper Real.

487
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:55.480
The Riker maneuver is what Riker always did, flinging his

488
00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:00.680
leg over the pair to sit down, and it was

489
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:05.519
it came about I can't remember how he injured his back,

490
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.119
but Jonathan freak uh did it that way that just

491
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:13.559
helped him somehow. How it's relevant to this week's episode.

492
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:18.160
In the blooper reel, the Kirk character is trying to

493
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.960
do that, except it's a giant The chair has a

494
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:29.039
giant back to it, like the old style captain's chairs,

495
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:33.000
and so he I'm sorry, people, it just cracked me

496
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.799
up every time. So he can't get his leg over it,

497
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.480
and he starts, you know, getting upset, and says, can

498
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:44.240
somebody fix this chair? But he tried and failed epically.

499
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.160
Yes, that that was rather hilarious.

500
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:48.839
It was.

501
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:52.799
All right, David, you ready, you got your thinking cap

502
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:54.039
on and your trouble.

503
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:55.440
Yep.

504
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.960
All right, let's see if if our listeners at home

505
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.839
can beat the truck Sperts on this one. All right,

506
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.160
here we go, David. What is the name and registering

507
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:08.400
number of the fictional Star Trek starship in this week's episode?

508
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.640
Well, from what I remember, it's the kind of the

509
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:19.039
same name of the episode Adventure Hour, but without the hour,

510
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.720
so it just the Adventure. Well, did I have a

511
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.119
registry US or was it? I think it was USSH Adventure.

512
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:34.000
The registry number wise very small from what I remember,

513
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:40.039
it was twenty twenty dash one.

514
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:43.240
That's right. The truck sports are batt in one hundred.

515
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:45.200
I hope you guys at home are keeping up?

516
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:58.079
Sorry, did I fall asleep all to what's going on?

517
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:04.799
You're ready? What's the name of the fictional show in

518
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.680
this week's episode? Oh?

519
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.720
God, the fictional show because it's like fictional, right, because

520
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.920
it's like made up? Yeah, I believe it's kind of

521
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:19.079
a play on words from a famous phrase from the

522
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.920
other fictional show, Star Trek. So I think it was

523
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.079
called the Final Frontier.

524
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:28.640
Yes, shock and Dismay.

525
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:29.960
Huh what did I win?

526
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:37.480
One of the best Star Trek movies ever? By the way, Okay, Charles,

527
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.279
are you ready see I hope our I hope our

528
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:46.759
listeners are keeping score here? Okay, what famous author does

529
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:51.599
Spock claim to be a descendant of? In this episode?

530
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:57.200
Well, on stir Trek six, Spock used the quote if

531
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:02.200
you eliminate the impossibility, whatever remains howibrand probable, must be

532
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:07.720
the truth, which was a Sherlock's Home reference, and of

533
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.519
course Sherlock Home was being fictional. We're actually talking about

534
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:16.440
author Cornan Doyle. Okay, Sir author corn and Doyle.

535
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.720
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding All right, the

536
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:21.799
pressure's on, Eric.

537
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.400
Okay, let's do it so far.

538
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.920
Everybody, Okay, you're ready? Yeah, all right. What episode was

539
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:33.799
the first time that the recreation room was mentioned?

540
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.519
The Recreation Room? Uh, that one's easy because I'm a

541
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.400
huge TAS fan. It was The Practical Joker, And I

542
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.079
actually just rewatched it last night to remember what all

543
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.880
the recreation room stuff was, so I've got it fresh

544
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:49.599
in my head. But yeah, it was The Practical Joker.

545
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:53.640
It's the episode where the Enterprise goes through a cloud

546
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.240
of weird space dust and it sort of gets a

547
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.920
mind of its own. I think what the Sulu says

548
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.759
something like it's the equivalent of the ship having a

549
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:05.920
mental breakdown or something like that basically tries to like

550
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.239
joke with all the people and half kill them. It's

551
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.920
it's strangely dark if you kind of actually think about it.

552
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:13.960
But of course it's rendered in a very fun way

553
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:15.239
because it's the animated series.

554
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:22.639
Yeah, with that choppy animation style. Absolutely, absolutely, Okay, David,

555
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:28.360
you ready? Yep? Okay. When was the last time that

556
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:32.360
the names of Gene Roddenberry and Alexander Courage both are

557
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.119
displayed in the credits?

558
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.079
WHOA, that's obscure.

559
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:39.000
That's obscure.

560
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.840
But I don't usually watch credits, so I don't even

561
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:48.440
know who could that whatever off the show?

562
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.800
Yeah, your history?

563
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:57.400
Yeah, lord, no idea he wrote?

564
00:34:57.559 --> 00:34:59.719
He didn't he composed the star Trek.

565
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:08.400
You say, okay, okay, right there, considering that it went

566
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.599
from the nineteen sixties, I want to say that time

567
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:13.360
frame nineteen sixty.

568
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.920
It was the last time was on TOS. That's right?

569
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:18.199
Good?

570
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:19.320
Can I have my promotion back?

571
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:24.599
All right? Well, let's just stay well, let's just stay

572
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:31.039
so Paul for a tough one. All right, my browisansome

573
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:35.679
Mount plays T. K. Bellows, the creator of the Last Frontier?

574
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.440
Who is he your characterture of Oh?

575
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:42.119
When I hear the name Bellows, I immediately go back

576
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.559
to my syndicated reruns. I dream of Genie because you

577
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:50.400
know doctor Bellows of course with the infamous Supreme Officer

578
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.760
on that show. But of course anyone who can look

579
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:54.800
at the outfit that.

580
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:58.679
Yeah, audio went down.

581
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.400
We lost you, Paul, you got I got my audio one.

582
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:02.760
I know the answer.

583
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.079
Wait, all right, are you really gonna steal it? What's

584
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:06.679
the answer? V?

585
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.000
Yeah, because I got ripped off of my second question

586
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.840
there because it was a duplicate. Anyway, he is a

587
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:17.760
character of the one and only Gene Rodenberry.

588
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:24.039
That's right, He's Gene Roddenberry, exactly right. So we'll have

589
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:28.079
to swing back to that one. So Charles, here's a

590
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:36.880
tough one. Who directed this week's episode? Did we lose

591
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:37.480
Charles two?

592
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.679
Yeah, gott to hit that mute button?

593
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:45.400
Oh?

594
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.199
Let me think. Wasn't it done by two takes freaks?

595
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:57.639
Yes? It was? And oddly enough, he was directed as

596
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.960
the director of the fictional episode as well. If you

597
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.719
read the complete credits in the episode, he's credited as

598
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:11.679
just director as well. So and Eric, you get the

599
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.880
final question. Okay, I'm ready double jeopardy.

600
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.440
I'm gonna nail it.

601
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:23.519
Paul Wesley plays Captain Maxwell Saint. What Star Trek actor?

602
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:25.559
Is he a character?

603
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:30.960
Uh? Well, I mean, of course. This is Paul Wesley's finest,

604
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:36.159
in my opinion, finest interpretation of our dear mister Shatner.

605
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.760
He does all of the things, he does all of

606
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.719
the pauses, he does all of the poses, he does

607
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:48.199
all of the the weird lines that kind of makes

608
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:52.519
sense but also kind of don't make sense. So yeah,

609
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.239
yeah it was. It was William Shatner.

610
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.440
It was William. Yeah.

611
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:02.599
The only thing he didn't do was have a strategically.

612
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:07.480
Yeah, or like try to kiss somebody against their will.

613
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.440
But he did lose his brain cells, so yeah, we

614
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.000
need our brain cells.

615
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.280
I got that one line where what does Chample say.

616
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.039
It's something like we need them for science reasons.

617
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:24.800
Something off.

618
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.719
All right, So guys, that was trivia with Uncle Jim.

619
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:31.599
We hadn't done that in quite a while, so maybe

620
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:35.119
we'll start doing it again, who knows. But at any rate,

621
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:39.400
now it's time for our cadet training with Charles. And

622
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:40.960
this is the part of the show where Charles let

623
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.719
you guys know what episodes you can go to watch

624
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:48.039
to catch references that refer to this episode. So take

625
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:49.119
it away, Charles.

626
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:56.639
Okay, I'm hoping I'm back connected because I got kicked off. Okay,

627
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:01.760
let's stirn off with Star Trek six The Undiscovered as

628
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:09.079
somebody made a trivia question when Stock Spock quach Sherlock Holmes.

629
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:15.119
I didn't catch chance to grab him. But the first

630
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:19.760
thing I thought when I saw this episode was Black Mirror.

631
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.440
Two episodes from that series.

632
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:30.719
T A s Wait, what Black what's the connection?

633
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.519
To Black Mirror. Sorry I missed that, Allister. I thought

634
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:38.000
about those two episodes when I saw this episode the

635
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.880
first time. That reminds me.

636
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.639
On Star Trek. Yeah, I see, yeah, okay, okay, got it.

637
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.519
Another trivia question came up was tas the Practical Joker

638
00:39:53.239 --> 00:40:00.960
season two, episode three, the first use of a recreation room.

639
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.840
And then of course TNG and Canter Farpoint first season

640
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:12.400
first episode was the first holidack we saw data walking

641
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:19.159
through it, trying to whistle ah, TNG that bid goodbye.

642
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:25.000
Season one, episode twelve, the first use of Dixon Hill,

643
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:27.760
And of course.

644
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:31.320
I've seen an investigator and that ties into yes.

645
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:38.159
And then TNG elementary to your data where data goes in?

646
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.199
Is Sherlock Holmes an investigator and they want to challenge

647
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:50.760
that's going to challenge data, not Sherlock Holmes. And TNG

648
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:55.760
actually had about fifty six shows and references to holidacks.

649
00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:02.360
Voyager had ninety seven shows and references to holodecks, so

650
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.440
those are too serious. That are very common for holidecks.

651
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.639
Of course nine had hollow sweets, which would be confused with.

652
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.320
They require much more cleaning than a holid deck does.

653
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.920
Yes, and there weren't as many episodes in reference to

654
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.079
those as there were the other two the other series,

655
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:37.119
because Enterprise references at once, Discovery story references the card references.

656
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:43.199
But how many times does does Quirk say the word hollow? Sweet?

657
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:52.239
That's what I want to know, Charles.

658
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.880
Many the things you learn on this show. I'm just like,

659
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:57.440
it's educational.

660
00:41:58.800 --> 00:41:59.920
Can you hear me now? Can?

661
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:00.360
Yes?

662
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:00.639
We can?

663
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:01.199
Sound good?

664
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:05.800
You sound perfect? Perfect? W TAF.

665
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:10.719
Paul I got kicked off too.

666
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:12.519
It's Friday. Oh good.

667
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:14.400
I feel so much less lonely now.

668
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:18.559
Okay, So, as I said every week over on our

669
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.360
Facebook page, Truck Talking and Beyond, we asked you guys

670
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:25.119
what you thought about this week's episode, and Eric is

671
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:26.800
going to tell us our fan reaction.

672
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.639
I certainly am. Josue Torro said, loved it, exclamation Point

673
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:33.679
gave it a ten. D Cole said, I very much

674
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.639
enjoyed the show. It wasn't the classical format that I

675
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.599
go for with all the technology. I started watching expecting

676
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.800
to be disappointed, but I wasn't. It reminded me of

677
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:47.079
some of the Holideck challenges in the TNG series, of

678
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.239
which Charles just reminded us. I really did enjoy how

679
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.000
they made a bit of fun of the sixties era

680
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.719
TOS show. It was a fun watch.

681
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:58.159
Hey, thanks.

682
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:03.280
D Tory the Roads said five. Not my favorite episode.

683
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.639
Seem more like an expose for the actors to showcase

684
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.920
their range of acting abilities more than anything to do

685
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.039
with the actual with actual star trek. Not terrible, not great. Yeah,

686
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.440
that's solid mill middle of the road right there. Janella

687
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.880
Roye said ten. Loved it, great fun. Laurie Johnson said

688
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.719
this episode was so great. Loved the lesson for Scotti

689
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.960
on asking for help. Yeah, Laurie, I can't wait to

690
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.119
talk about that. She gave it a nine. Rob Bellow

691
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:35.880
said a for effort, but I'm tired of gimmick episodes.

692
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:40.159
The prototype Holodeck just another fan service gimmick. Wish we

693
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:45.360
could see strange new worlds instead. Yeah, five, thanks Rob.

694
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:51.280
Michael Kaff said one bad episode. If season three continues

695
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:55.719
this way, they should stop the series with this season. Michael,

696
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:02.360
Michael's very angry. His little Bruce said that was brilliant too,

697
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:04.280
exclamation points more.

698
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.599
What a spectrum of opinion we have there?

699
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.159
Well, you know, there's there's a lot. It's like whiplash

700
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.880
here you know, everybody's got their own thing going on.

701
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.920
So yeah. Ten plus from Hazel and Aaron Ray wrote

702
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.199
us a little mini pedagraph here. I thought this show

703
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.960
was fun and great. The meta commentary of the episode

704
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.000
was fantastic, and it seemed like the cast had a

705
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.159
lot of fun stretching their acting muscles a bit to

706
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.960
do something outside of the box. Well written. I really

707
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:36.320
loved the character Anson Mount portrayed. I didn't even recognize

708
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.920
him at first. The Kirk parody was hilarious strange. New

709
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.559
Worlds is so much fun all caps, and I liked

710
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.920
how it doesn't take itself too seriously all the time.

711
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:51.119
Jonathan Fraakes should get a nickname like mister star Trek

712
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:56.159
or something more clean clever that I haven't thought of. Nine.

713
00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:00.320
Thanks Aaron Ray, that was a great review. Elizabeth Boo

714
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.559
Deck last but not least, gave it a ten. I

715
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.119
really enjoyed this episode. It is now my favorite little

716
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:12.840
huggy emoji, little livlong prosper emoji that apparently and I

717
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:14.639
haven't I forgot to double check the math on this,

718
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.840
because some of these are a little weirdly mathed. But

719
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.400
theoretically this gives us a fans score of seven point

720
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.679
seven for this one. But you know, if you if

721
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:25.599
you were to what is it in statistics where you

722
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.880
like eliminate the top one in the bottom one, it

723
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.960
feels like it's like it's like an eight. Yeah, basically

724
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:32.159
our fans are saying like eight.

725
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.760
So there you go, round up, right, round up, round up,

726
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.639
round up. Not the weed killer, but you know, the.

727
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.320
Swiss, the what not?

728
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:42.199
The chemical children.

729
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:44.639
Yeah.

730
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.199
No, so that's that's pretty solid score. So we should

731
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:49.039
probably talk about the episode.

732
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:50.679
We could talk about it absolutely.

733
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.880
Yeah, Paul, do you want to, like, uh kind of

734
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.360
remind us what happens in this one?

735
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:57.079
And Jeffrey yeah, yeah, yeah.

736
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.360
For me, the biggest takeaway was, you know, we watched

737
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:03.079
that clip from the previous week's episode right where Spock

738
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.880
is talking about, you know, recommending strategy, and he says,

739
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:12.280
I recommend a slow approach, right, I'm quoting him correctly. Well,

740
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.119
apparently that same advice does not apply to mister Spock's

741
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:19.599
love life because he is just like books on right,

742
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.800
it's like by Christine and he's like, you know, now

743
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.960
he's on the Noonian sing train man and he's like,

744
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.880
you know, he's taking the dance lessons and doing all

745
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:33.239
kinds of I believe the technical biological word is canoodling

746
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:37.800
with so during the course of their lessons. So, but

747
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:41.519
that's to be discussed later. A Space Adventure hour is

748
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:44.760
basically a kind of have your cake and eat it

749
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.199
to episode, right, because we want to be able to

750
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.800
have fun and riff on things that previously had never

751
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.039
ever ever been part of the original series canon, which

752
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.599
of course gets a lot of people's kill wrapped around

753
00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:59.920
their testes. You know they can't handle.

754
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:01.559
A yeah, but.

755
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:14.320
I don't want in my.

756
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:18.320
Head, well me, welcome to the show.

757
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:19.360
Okay, I just.

758
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:24.960
Oh, you're welcome to do the gender equivalent anytime.

759
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:31.199
So anyhow, the idea was that, okay, we would have

760
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:35.079
a situation as Eric intimated on the animated series, we've

761
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:36.719
had references.

762
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.079
To something akin to the Holodeck before, and well, at

763
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:40.719
some point when they first got the whole deck, you

764
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:42.599
had to like try it out right and see what

765
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.679
it was, put it in beta mode and see what

766
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.480
happens and give it a trial run. And so that's

767
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:49.800
what happens here. The Enterprise is sort of chosen to

768
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:54.920
test a new hologram Holo deck excuse me, And who

769
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:59.159
better to do that than a dance instructor and Goren

770
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.840
enthusiastic lah on Nudian sing, right, And so she decides

771
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:06.000
to do that, and she gets the idea much as

772
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:11.800
Data was very fond of playing his version of the

773
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:17.199
Conan Doyle Mysteries, as Charles reminded us ad infinitum that

774
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:22.480
she was apparently fond of some crazy sixties detective series, right,

775
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.559
And so she decides to do that, and you know,

776
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:32.960
see if she can basically create a mystery that would

777
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.960
be very challenging to solve, and of course the ship

778
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.000
programs itself accordingly, but they also have to be parked

779
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:42.920
right next to a neutron star and that happens to

780
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:47.039
create all kinds of power drain stuff that threatens everything.

781
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:53.280
So Lawn and company, including mister Spock, who manages to

782
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:55.039
take his tongue out of her throat long enough to

783
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.480
be able to solve the mystery and fix the Holodeck

784
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.920
to restore power and uh, and they end up discovering

785
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.880
a surprising connection between the holidex AI and and so, yeah,

786
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:09.079
it's interesting. So we had a lot of stuff going on.

787
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.280
I you know, I'll let others put their opinions out

788
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.760
now that I've done a summary, and I can share

789
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:19.039
mine later if you want to hear them. But but

790
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.639
I think we should go to I think we should

791
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:26.719
go to the Yeah, we are all freaked out. Now

792
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:30.360
we've talked about horror movies and genitals, the freaking bail.

793
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:35.199
I want to see what other buttons.

794
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.400
Yeah, yeah, I'll.

795
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.079
I'll have to tell you something later about the whole

796
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:50.480
kilt thing that after the show, well, I loved it.

797
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:55.480
I in fact watched it like three times. And for

798
00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.679
the people who criticized it the raby at a one,

799
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.280
come on, it is not a bad episode, and then

800
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.840
the whole thing. If the season three continues this way,

801
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.199
they should stop the series with this season. Nope, sorry,

802
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:13.320
they've already green lighted it through five, so you're just

803
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:19.159
gonna have to endure. But like my current favorite Star

804
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:23.440
Trek show, DS nine, you have those episodes that are

805
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:28.199
fun in between the serious ones. And I think the

806
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:33.320
way they did this with having the stereotyp not stereotypes,

807
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:38.559
the caricatures of Gene Roddenberry, except they didn't want to

808
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:41.199
get it too close to the real deal. They just

809
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:45.559
they had suggestions of Gene and then of course Shatner

810
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.800
and then at the end with the whole bloopers, which

811
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:53.559
reminded me of.

812
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:56.360
That.

813
00:50:56.800 --> 00:51:01.760
Sorry, my brain just shut down. Stargate SG.

814
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:02.079
One.

815
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.519
One of my favorite episodes was Wormhole Extreme, where they

816
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.360
did a show within a show and they had all

817
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:15.679
these hilarious sloopers at the end. So I'm I'm sorry,

818
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.920
But for whoever thought it was, you know, bad episodes

819
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:23.280
or a gimmick, eh, it was great and you can't

820
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:26.920
go wrong with Franks directing it so true?

821
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:31.679
That true? That Yeah. I just I read a lot

822
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:34.199
of comments. I just want to ask you guys this question.

823
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:39.039
Why is it. Why is it that every fan that

824
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:43.719
hates it premise is their answer by saying, I'm a

825
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:48.119
huge fan of TOS, But but why is that? Why

826
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.719
is it that people feel that if they grew up

827
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:56.199
watching TOS, that everything after that isn't Star Trek, and

828
00:51:56.239 --> 00:52:00.239
that they're justified in saying everything stinks because they're old

829
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:03.960
enough to remember TOS. I don't understand that. I don't

830
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:06.840
be enough to remember TOS, and I've never started a

831
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.440
sentence like that, Oh, well, you know, I grew up

832
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:11.639
watching TOS, but.

833
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:16.880
Just you know, there's a highly likely thing. I mean

834
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:18.960
I did too, man, I mean a lot of us did,

835
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:22.800
us old elders, right. But I think there's a certain

836
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:27.360
degree of thing where there's nostalgia right where we remember.

837
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.199
I'm sure we all remember the first time we saw,

838
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.760
you know, Devil in the Dark to reference something I know,

839
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.800
Eric is it is fine, right, we all have our

840
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.360
favorite things. But I think a lot of times what happens,

841
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.119
my theory with certain kinds of folks, not everybody, but

842
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:43.000
certain kinds of folks, right, is you know, there's nostalgia,

843
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:48.239
and then there's your perception of what the rules of

844
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:53.639
life and your memories are, and if somebody veers away

845
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.679
from that and does something differently, somehow, your identity becomes threatened,

846
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.440
right Because I think I thought about this a little bit,

847
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:02.880
and I think this is a lot of what we

848
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:06.760
saw during the Discovery years, because boy, howdy did people

849
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.199
freak out over that show. You know, It's like, oh

850
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:11.719
my god, the Klingons looked different. I think I need

851
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.320
to like go and you know, have an enema. I mean,

852
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.800
it was just ridiculous, right, I mean, and I think

853
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:18.639
that we have the same kind of thing going on here.

854
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.280
It's just like, you know, for years and years they

855
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:24.599
watched syndicated reruns of original series, and it became like,

856
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:27.400
you can't write a new chapter of the Tora guys,

857
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:31.320
I've memorized the old one, right, And somehow it's really

858
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:36.400
threatening to have your people fear change, I think sometimes,

859
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:39.280
and it threatens their identity to have things that be

860
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.159
different than what they knew and found comfort in for

861
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.880
so long. I said, I don't understand that myself. I

862
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.280
really don't. Does that make any sense? Do you think

863
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:50.079
this a validity in that assessment?

864
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:50.679
Yeah?

865
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:52.960
Well, I think I think that they look at it.

866
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:58.440
It's like it's like the holy Grail and God forbid

867
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:04.480
you should try to change it somehow. And I don't know,

868
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:04.920
I just.

869
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.679
Like it'ious change yeah, sacrilegious.

870
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.880
Yeah, like, oh my gosh, how dare you? And I

871
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.800
have to admit, for a brief time after TG came out,

872
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.079
I didn't want to watch anything else, which is why

873
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.320
it took me a while to watch Voyager and DS

874
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:27.960
nine and everything like that. But I, you know, I

875
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.440
embraced you know, I finally watched the shows and I

876
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.920
wound up loving them and kicked myself for not seeing

877
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:37.639
them sooner. So I guess people, you know, the whole

878
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.559
thing with with Star Trek to me is well, it's

879
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:44.639
also you know, going back to the infinite diversity in

880
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:51.079
infinite combinations, and so that's that's kind of what the

881
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.480
I mean, that's what the show is. You have to

882
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:58.000
see it in different in a different light. And I

883
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:02.199
know that Franks Jonathan Frake's went into that show with

884
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:06.400
the best of intentions and having a great time showing

885
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:12.039
the actors, you know, show seeing their their range, their

886
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.519
acting range, and just having a great time. And I

887
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.320
don't I don't see what's wrong with that. I mean,

888
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:21.679
they still honored the show, and yeah, I don't know.

889
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:23.920
If you don't like it, I'm sorry. I guess it's

890
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.280
you know, I want to invite you to my Star

891
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:27.000
Trek party.

892
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.400
I think I had something they'll do with a lot

893
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:33.760
of what you guys are talking about, I think if

894
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:35.800
I want to put my input here, but I think

895
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:39.119
it has a lot to do with canon. When people

896
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:41.920
see a show, they're like, Okay, this is great, and

897
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:45.079
then when they start changing it, it's like the level

898
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.360
of like this kind of like starts to wobble and

899
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.000
then once something really does change all of a sudden,

900
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:54.239
it's just like goes up and down. And then, for instance,

901
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:57.079
for me, when I started watching Enterprise, it took me

902
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.239
a while to get used to and I'm sorry to

903
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:01.000
say this, but what the cleanos looked like? And I

904
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:03.159
was like, what what did they do that for? Could

905
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:05.400
it was supposed to be you know, all this stuff

906
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:08.159
about them looking like humans and whatnot, But then they

907
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:13.119
made a really interesting take on why they changed and everything.

908
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.159
So to me, I think a lot of that has

909
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:19.920
to do with people want Cannon. They watch it before

910
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.280
Cannon and take a look at Star Wars, right, what

911
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.440
happened with that? So I oh, it was just a

912
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:28.000
lot of things that people like and they just stick

913
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:29.920
with it, and then if they change it, they're like

914
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:32.719
But then, like with V said, you know, it took

915
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:34.639
a while to watch something and then you end up

916
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:36.760
liking it, So it's like, yeah, yep.

917
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.000
Well. I also I think that people confuse can't what's

918
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:46.239
the word. If you're watching TJ. Hooker, Okay, he's driving

919
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.400
down the road in his cop car and in the

920
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:52.559
very next scene he's in a trans am. You know,

921
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:56.760
his car just changed from one to another. Is that

922
00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:59.800
cannon that he was driving a cop car a minute

923
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:01.559
ago and now he's in a trans am with no

924
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:04.599
explanation as to why the car's changed. Or he pulls

925
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:06.719
out his pistol and he's shooting at the bad guy.

926
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.239
They cut back and now he has an M sixteen

927
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:10.039
in his hands.

928
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:13.639
Now that's called up. That's called continuity faility.

929
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.519
Yes, And I think a lot of times fans confuse

930
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.840
continuity with cannon. There are two different things, and I

931
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:25.360
think I think fans confuse it all the time, you know,

932
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:30.199
justified or unjustified, and they just do it. But I

933
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.440
loved this episode the I thought this I actually I

934
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:35.400
got done watching it. I'd go back and watch it

935
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:39.159
a second time. I never laughed so hard. When Chapel

936
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.039
says we need our brain cells for science stuff, it's like,

937
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.559
oh my god. Or when they're on the holid deck

938
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:51.039
and Ortegas says, damn it, I'm an actor, not a doctor.

939
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.000
Oh my god. I was just hilarious. I thought it

940
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:58.920
was great. I thought that Paul Wesley doing his inner

941
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:03.000
Shatner was placeless. How could people not like that? I'm

942
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.480
you know, it was done with so much fun and

943
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:09.320
so much affection. It wasn't meanhearted, you know. I thought

944
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.760
it was very tasteful. I thought it was great. And

945
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:15.519
the alien holding up the eyeballs on the little poles

946
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:20.599
and you could see the eyeball poles. I just it

947
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:23.599
was just it reminded me of to Os, you know,

948
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:27.480
every minute of the way it did, you know, And

949
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.679
when who was it Chapel or Otagas walks up to the.

950
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:37.679
Door, Yeah, we lose.

951
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:44.360
My dog is like layers right here with me. Here

952
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:46.760
are you going to Leah? There she is? There, she is,

953
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:49.559
you know, when she's trying to get in the door

954
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.480
and the door won't open and she's pounding on the

955
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:54.239
door to get the door to open. You know, I

956
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.639
thought it was very tasteful. I thought it was well done.

957
00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:00.480
The story. The story I thought was was very good too.

958
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:03.519
You know. It wasn't just your typical Holid Deck story.

959
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:05.840
There was a little bit more to it, and a

960
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:08.480
lot of fans just couldn't get past the fact that, well,

961
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:11.320
it's another Dixon Hill, it's another data with it. It

962
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:13.440
was there was more to it than that. If you

963
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:17.119
opened up your eyes and watched and it was fun.

964
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.599
It was an enjoyable and you know I had. I

965
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.800
loved it, So I'm going to go by Now I

966
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:25.920
gotta go let my dog out, So I'm gonna step

967
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:27.719
away for a minute and I'll leave the mic to

968
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:28.840
you guys. I'll be right back.

969
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:32.519
Back and real quick. I did read about they filmed

970
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:35.960
it in an actual mansion. They didn't have a set.

971
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:40.760
They wanted to find some really bizarre out there mansion

972
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:45.760
and they looked around and they found one somewhere there, somewhere,

973
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.800
and I think it was Hollywood, but yeah, so they

974
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:54.039
really went the extra mile to find the perfect place

975
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:56.400
to find it, to find a place to shoot.

976
00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:58.719
So cool.

977
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:02.599
Well, the who done it sort of collect all the

978
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:04.559
people in the room and figure it out thing is

979
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:10.000
definitely reminiscent of Clue, right, and the Clue movie is great,

980
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.800
And of course we've all played the game probably multiple

981
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:16.440
times throughout our childhood, so I instantly got a clue

982
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.880
vibe front it. But from the very start of the episode,

983
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:24.119
I loved the design of the Final Frontier ship. It

984
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.960
had these great like real to real tapes that were

985
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.159
spinning and just trying to make everything look very dynamic

986
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:33.119
and futuristic right from the beginning, So they visually brought

987
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.360
you into it, and the quality of the sound was

988
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.880
dulled too, right, they kind of went to mono sound.

989
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:42.800
It had that kind of like tiny, poorly recorded sort

990
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.760
of vibe to it. So I think all of those

991
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.400
kind of visual and auditory cues pull you into the

992
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.800
mood of the of the show. And then it was

993
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.559
like a dramatic change when the first actual strange New

994
01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.559
World scene starts where Lawn starts doing her low about

995
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:03.599
the neutron star and stuff, and so you got to

996
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:05.960
see the juxtaposition of the old way of doing things

997
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:09.679
in the new way of doing things. Great fantastic opener

998
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.480
to this episode. Of course, I love this episode. I

999
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:17.039
might not love fun episodes of Star Trek. I'm never

1000
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:20.639
gonna watch the zombie episode ever again. I've watched this

1001
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.159
one twice and I'm probably gonna watch it three, four

1002
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.280
or five times again in the future, much in the

1003
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:30.400
same way I've watched Subspace Rhapsody million times. Just very

1004
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:34.719
interesting and fun to me. I loved on sort of

1005
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:38.239
like Carmen san Diego, look right, she had the red hat,

1006
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.079
and that was a show that I don't know, one iteration,

1007
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:44.960
many many years ago, was really great, and then they

1008
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:48.599
redid it that when my kid was a kid and

1009
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:51.639
we watched the new version of that. That was very fun.

1010
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.639
There's all the bits and all the fun stuff, but like,

1011
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:59.079
what was the show really about? And to me, it

1012
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:05.000
all comes down to that scene where Uhura and what's

1013
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:08.679
her name, It's like something Flossy or Glossy or I

1014
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.679
can't remember what her character's name was. But she gives

1015
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:16.239
this kind of speech about the show, the meta show,

1016
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.360
the show within the show being canceled, and she's like,

1017
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.119
you know, this show was conceived as as a way

1018
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:28.760
to do social commentary with rubber masks, and she essentially

1019
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:33.280
is describing Star Trek, right, but she's describing it within

1020
01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:36.000
the context of the kind of meta which, by the way,

1021
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:40.960
the whole idea of either fourth wall breaks or inception

1022
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:44.920
style like meta shows that I love that stuff too.

1023
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.320
If somebody looks at the camera and tells me something

1024
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:49.760
is the Watcher, I practically lose my shit because I

1025
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:53.880
just love that stuff. But that speech that she gives,

1026
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:58.039
I think was the whole purpose of this episode was

1027
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:02.079
to kind of highlight you know that that start. It's

1028
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:04.719
not making fun of Star Trek, but Star Trek is

1029
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:09.159
this thing that started as just kind of people trying

1030
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:11.039
to get a paycheck and doing their jobs and doing

1031
01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:14.960
the silly science fiction show, and it grew into this

1032
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:20.079
fifty nine year old franchise that became so important to people.

1033
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:22.159
And that's that's the way things work, right, They're like

1034
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.599
little tiny changes along the way, little tiny things that

1035
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:31.039
mean stuff to people. So that I thought that speech

1036
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:35.119
was an absolute necessary part of this episode to kind

1037
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:38.920
of not make it just silly, but to give it

1038
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:42.119
to sort of clue people in. And if you were

1039
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.760
watching this episode and you didn't really get it, I

1040
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:48.039
hope that when she gave that speech, that's when you

1041
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:51.679
were like, oh, okay, now now I get it. Now

1042
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:56.559
it makes sense to me. So yeah, anyway, all the

1043
01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:59.280
great references, I mean, the Captain's chair had a cup holder.

1044
01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:05.280
That's fantastic, and of course it didn't. You know, you

1045
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:09.159
all were talking about Cannon and David mentioned that people

1046
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:13.119
care about Cannon. I think that's absolutely true. I also

1047
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:16.079
think that people have their own concept of what the

1048
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:20.079
canon is. And for example, a lot of people haven't

1049
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:23.000
seen who are die hard Star Trek fans say that

1050
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.400
they love the show so much never seen the animated series,

1051
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:31.679
wouldn't have any idea that there was an original past

1052
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.320
version of the Halo Deck out there. And so, you know,

1053
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:36.239
I was reading comments on the internet too, where people

1054
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:38.679
are like, oh my god, I introduced the holid Deck

1055
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:40.719
eighty years too early and blah blah blah blah blah,

1056
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:42.920
this and that. I'm like, yeah, dude, but it was there,

1057
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.199
and we know from episodes of Voyager, for example, this

1058
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:49.199
whole idea of what Scotty says at the end of

1059
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:53.559
this episode, which is that the Holideck requires its own

1060
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:57.719
computing power and its own power supply, so literally, when

1061
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:02.000
like the main computer on the ship goes down, the

1062
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:05.840
Holodeck still runs because it's a totally independent system within

1063
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.880
the ship. So there was there was absolutely no cannon

1064
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:13.960
breaking by bringing in a Holodeck episode this early into

1065
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:17.920
Strange New Worlds. I think people just weren't really aware

1066
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:23.079
that the animated series episode existed. So so many other

1067
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:24.360
great things to talk about, but I want to make

1068
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:26.639
sure everybody else has a chance. I just know that

1069
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:30.360
I loved this episode. It was it was right up

1070
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.719
there in my I mean, of the four episodes we've

1071
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:34.719
seen so far, it's one of my top two. I

1072
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:36.719
bet you can guess which one the other one is.

1073
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:40.480
And Eric, I just I wanted to throw in because

1074
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:44.480
a lot of these haters didn't watch Discovery, and Discovery

1075
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:46.760
had a lot of holograms in it. And if you

1076
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:50.800
if people remember when we're introduced to Pike and the

1077
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.800
Enterprise and season two of Discovery and they have to

1078
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.320
tow it back to Earth. What was the reason why

1079
01:05:57.400 --> 01:05:59.920
they had to tow it back to Earth? Do you remember?

1080
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:04.760
Was it because the they had was that well that

1081
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:06.719
was before he ripped all the holograms out of it.

1082
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:10.400
But yeah, the holograms were causing were havoc with the

1083
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:13.400
ship and they had to they had to remove the holograms.

1084
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:18.679
So hologram technology was around during Discovery and TAS, two

1085
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:23.719
shows which most people that love Tas refused to watch

1086
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:30.119
so they would know that. So yeah, cool, all right,

1087
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:34.239
back from walking le She's all set. Those of you

1088
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:39.679
who are wondering, she's happy now we.

1089
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:41.599
Might be saving Paul for the end. Charles, do you

1090
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.800
want to mention your thoughts on this episode?

1091
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.920
Okay, one of the things, and it took somebody else's

1092
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:56.199
comment that I sort of realized what the show was about.

1093
01:06:57.159 --> 01:06:58.960
And I think one of the thing is that really

1094
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:06.800
caught me was then rewatching and hearing Unachen Riley's speech

1095
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:14.679
of Sonny Lupiana, which then I realized after hearing had

1096
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:20.239
the comment looking like, oh, that's the seal ball. So

1097
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:27.639
we sit there and recognize the lady of Star Trek that, yeah, oh,

1098
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:32.400
as you admids saying I wasn't taking money from the

1099
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:34.719
I wasn't taking money from.

1100
01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:36.599
The mob.

1101
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:41.320
I took my own money because there's money that I

1102
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.920
sold the house and money that I'd gotten from my divorce,

1103
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:50.280
and realizing oh, we're getting into the Desi reference as

1104
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:54.079
she ran the studio. So I love the reference, the

1105
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:59.280
fact that, yeah, we're doing a great talk about referencing her.

1106
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:03.400
One of the things I looked up as we're talking

1107
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:09.559
about the recreation room. The concept of the Holidack originated

1108
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:13.719
in nineteen sixty eight, when Gene Bronberry came up with

1109
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:18.119
the idea of a simulated outdoor recreation area on the

1110
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.800
Enterprise for the third season of Star Trek, the original series.

1111
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:28.079
The idea never came to fruition, probably because of budget constraints.

1112
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:34.119
Roden Berry thought about that back in tos. He just

1113
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:38.439
didn't have the money to do it. So that concept

1114
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.359
is out there. I think they just don't want to

1115
01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:44.319
admit the fact that that concept still going and should

1116
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:50.279
be out there. I really enjoyed the episode. I think

1117
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:55.800
the only downfall I had the episode was that I

1118
01:08:55.920 --> 01:09:03.439
didn't like the new relationship hip of Spock. So Spock's

1119
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:09.119
head the one relationship ends with the Vulcan, and now

1120
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:14.279
it's Christine, now Leon. It's like, okay, is this a

1121
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:18.560
flirtatious Spock who goes between the girls? I get to

1122
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:19.800
this our new riker.

1123
01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:27.960
He's just dating around man dating rounds. Okay, yeah, Christine

1124
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:31.359
is the one who dropped him.

1125
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:35.199
It breaks Cannon. It breaks Cannon because Spock never had

1126
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:38.840
any interest in anybody. It breaks Cannon. I'm sorry, breaks Cannon.

1127
01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:41.039
I'm done. I'm out mic drop.

1128
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:47.079
But I love the references to some of the different

1129
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:55.079
actors and characters from the creation of Star Trek, So

1130
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:58.800
I enjoyed that part. It's just the dancing part. I

1131
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:03.439
ended up skipping the Blue real last night because it's like, Okay, yeah,

1132
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:05.399
I'm done. I don't want to see the dance scene

1133
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:08.479
another time, and another kiss.

1134
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:09.600
So.

1135
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.640
Nobody's given him to me yet, but I'm going to

1136
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:18.600
give this one a nine. Love the episode. I just

1137
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:23.479
didn't need the relationship storyline in there, but I love

1138
01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:27.279
the idea with specially pushing Scotty. We get to see

1139
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:33.039
a lot more of the miracle Worker from Scotty, and

1140
01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:35.000
that characters really getting a good boost.

1141
01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:41.159
I just hope that he replaces Pellya soon because I

1142
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:45.039
find her voice just like like fingernails on a chalkboard.

1143
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.239
I just don't like her character at all, and I

1144
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.479
want to see more Scotty and less of her. Oh yeah,

1145
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:53.399
by the way, I'm right there with you. I'm going

1146
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:55.880
to give it a nine point eight because Paul loves

1147
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:57.359
the decimals, so I'm going to go with a nine

1148
01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:57.760
point eight.

1149
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:00.520
Yeah, me too.

1150
01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:09.039
Waffling, Eric, what did you get it?

1151
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:10.000
What do you think? Vige?

1152
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:11.439
Oh?

1153
01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:14.000
I forgot to mention, if I can say real quick,

1154
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:19.760
as a former competition ballroom dancer, like one hundred years ago,

1155
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:25.880
Spock and on are dancing tango, not just any tango,

1156
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:30.680
but an Argentine as they say tango, and that's very intricate.

1157
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:33.439
If you watched it, you could see the moves. So

1158
01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:38.199
they really had to know those steps very well to

1159
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:42.399
be able, because I've tried, you know, the whole walking

1160
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:46.439
and chewing bubble gum thing. Well, dancing, especially of an

1161
01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:50.640
intricate dance like that, and remembering their lines. I thought

1162
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:56.960
was a great achievement because that's not easy. And I

1163
01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.479
still I still liked it. I think it was hot.

1164
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:04.920
And my my idea is that Bock is logical, so

1165
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:08.199
he's that logical brain is able to get over people

1166
01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:12.680
quicker than the average person, so that's why he goes

1167
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:17.600
from person to person. But yeah, solid, I would say,

1168
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:19.960
let me do a nine point nine. Why not?

1169
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:21.039
Mh.

1170
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:24.840
But still Spock falls prey to the most sexy of dances,

1171
01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:25.439
right like.

1172
01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:29.800
Yeah, that's that is one that that is the dance

1173
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:30.920
of love. You know.

1174
01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:37.800
Well, Paul Paul gets the caboose on this one, buddy.

1175
01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:40.399
You heard what everyone else has to say.

1176
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:42.159
Did everyone get their scores out?

1177
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:45.279
No?

1178
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:54.239
I didn't. Actually Leo went because I took her.

1179
01:12:55.920 --> 01:13:00.960
I quickly go through. And I liked the spoof on

1180
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:04.760
the Star Trek show of it being from the nineteen sixties.

1181
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:08.399
I'm who doesn't like a good you know, uh spin

1182
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:13.600
off of a show, But I also liked that the

1183
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.840
I actually like the relations of house Bok is slowly

1184
01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:22.640
getting into relations with Lawn, and I think that's pretty good.

1185
01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:26.279
The other thing that I want to say is that

1186
01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:30.640
why did they do to testing next to a neutron star?

1187
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:34.199
What the heck? I mean, it's just supported to be

1188
01:13:34.199 --> 01:13:37.239
in the future. Don't they know what neutron stars can do? Right?

1189
01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:37.439
So?

1190
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:40.479
I mean that point of the whole show is just like, Okay,

1191
01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:42.680
I know it put to be like a bee story

1192
01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:46.279
or whatever, but it was just like, don't be next

1193
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:48.840
to a problem that you got already a problem going on.

1194
01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:52.039
That's going on. So I mean so that the captain

1195
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:54.720
didn't know what was going on with the Holler deck

1196
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:58.479
or anything like that, but I mean, just testing something

1197
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.479
you shouldn't take it out to a danger with don

1198
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:08.199
and be like, yeah, okay, let's try something. But anyways, uh, overall,

1199
01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.720
I like to show it was fun. I enjoyed it.

1200
01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:13.560
Who else Okay, this is gonna be a spoiler part.

1201
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:19.239
Who else didn't know that it was Spock as the killer?

1202
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:24.319
You know, the whodune situation? Did anyone else figure that

1203
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:25.239
out before what happened?

1204
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.159
Now? I think it was at the very end that

1205
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:31.600
I realized it.

1206
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:37.840
All right. Yeah, for me, I didn't know. It actually

1207
01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:38.840
took me by surprize.

1208
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:39.680
Mm hmm.

1209
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:43.439
God. I think they did a really good job. And

1210
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:45.640
just for that, I'm gonna wade just through at ten

1211
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:46.760
mm hm.

1212
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:49.800
And you know what that means, don't you, David. That

1213
01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:53.039
means that there's a perfect recreation of mister Spock floating

1214
01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:56.239
around in some holidecks somewhere. They could be recalled at

1215
01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:59.960
any moment in any Star Trek future like Starfleet Academy,

1216
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:03.239
for instance, you could show up just.

1217
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:09.199
Saying just saying, okay, go ahead, Paul, all right.

1218
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.039
No, I think we covered a lot of ground certainly

1219
01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:12.399
on here.

1220
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:13.720
Uh.

1221
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:16.600
My initial take was it was I was a little

1222
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:18.800
slow to warmed to this one. Right. Eventually I think

1223
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:22.199
won me over, but it took a while for me.

1224
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:27.800
I think one of the fans uh commented when Eric

1225
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:29.920
was reading their quotes that people had given that it

1226
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:32.960
really seemed like it was a design to give a

1227
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:35.000
lot of the actors a chance to do something different

1228
01:15:35.119 --> 01:15:42.000
and kind of have fun. We did you lose my

1229
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:49.319
audio again? Uh? Oh, no audio, you're back now, Okay,

1230
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.079
it was this program anyway, you got it?

1231
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:54.800
Is it okay? All right?

1232
01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:57.039
It seemed like it was, you know, a lot of

1233
01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:02.439
built with a lot of attention. Let me let me

1234
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:03.439
jump and I'll come back.

1235
01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:09.760
I don't know why do He sounds really good for

1236
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:15.479
a minute and then he just drops out on us. Yeah,

1237
01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:16.840
we lost you again.

1238
01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:19.600
I also like that he uses the word for cocta

1239
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:20.840
because I know what that means.

1240
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:24.199
I like the kilt thing myself.

1241
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:27.760
Oh yeah, yeah, I know that I lost it over that.

1242
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:30.520
I'm yeah, and uh.

1243
01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:36.479
Yeah, I said afterwards, I'll tell you about why that's

1244
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:38.880
going to make me make it difficult for me at

1245
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:39.600
work tomorrow.

1246
01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:43.680
I think that one of thet I gotta say I

1247
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:47.199
was when we saw the original trailers, I was concerned

1248
01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:50.319
for this episode. I'm like, oh my god, but I

1249
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:52.319
got to say. One of the strengths of Strange New

1250
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:57.159
Worlds is that there we go hear you're perfect and.

1251
01:16:57.199 --> 01:16:58.760
I don't what the hell, but guys, sorry about that.

1252
01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:00.760
It's connected. Maybe's only somebody of us can be on

1253
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:02.800
here at one time or something, but anyhow, I'll try

1254
01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:04.840
to be brief in case it doesn't go. It took

1255
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:06.439
me a while. I think it was a really fun

1256
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:08.279
showcase for a lot of the actors to do things.

1257
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:11.840
Totally love Paul Wesley. It was like he was basically,

1258
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:16.960
you know, responding to like years of Nudnick's you know

1259
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:19.720
out there. You know he's not shutting enough. I don't

1260
01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:22.560
like him, and he was this is basically just being

1261
01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:25.760
fuck you. You know, he just like did the greatest

1262
01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:29.000
you know, I oh no, I mean he was just

1263
01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:33.359
so chewing the scenery with his shatter impersonation I and

1264
01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:36.840
you know he's wearing basically the same outfit Robert Wagner

1265
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:39.000
war and it takes a thief and it was hilarious, right,

1266
01:17:39.079 --> 01:17:41.079
I mean it was just you know a lot of

1267
01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:44.680
great fun reverence for sixties television in here, for sure.

1268
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:47.680
So I really liked what he was doing. Want to

1269
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:50.279
echo what somebody else said, who I can't remember, but

1270
01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:53.720
really loving Scottie in here. And I'm with you, Uncle

1271
01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:55.880
Jennifer Elliott was out the door today, I'd be like,

1272
01:17:56.199 --> 01:17:58.600
that's okay. So yeah, I think he's bringing a lot

1273
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:03.079
of energy and he's not mimicking James Dewan. He's bringing

1274
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:06.720
his own very authentic interpretation of Scotty to the role.

1275
01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:09.279
So I really like those two quite a bit. I

1276
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:13.079
did not like I don't want to bog down in Minutia,

1277
01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:15.560
right because I hate that. But I did not like

1278
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:21.119
Lawn's wacky Carmen san Diego look, and what was up

1279
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:23.800
with the makeup they gave her. It was really distracting.

1280
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:27.399
It was like they threw it on thirty seconds. It

1281
01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:31.039
looked like she just did not look good. So but

1282
01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:32.640
it was fun. I mean, this is one of those

1283
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:34.920
episodes you either embrace the fun of it or just

1284
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:37.159
get out right. I mean, there's really not a lot

1285
01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:39.279
to beyond that. I do have to say, though, it

1286
01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:41.119
really kind of felt to me like the first like

1287
01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:44.079
twenty minutes or so of this. I'm like, okay, going

1288
01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:45.600
back in time here a year and a half or

1289
01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:48.600
whenever they shot this thing, Right, somebody really enjoyed the

1290
01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:52.920
hell out of Uss Calistair over on Netflix, as Charles

1291
01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:55.439
pointed out, right, and this was like their version of

1292
01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:59.319
that as a way of getting a hold of the story.

1293
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:04.880
I don't think it really stands quite as tall as

1294
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:08.840
the level of satire and homage that that show does.

1295
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:12.680
That's working on a whole higher level, you know. But

1296
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:14.880
this was fun, and I think I get what they

1297
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:17.199
were trying to do. It was enjoyable. I could not

1298
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:21.279
care less about canon. It's like I just do. So

1299
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:23.520
it's fine for me that they were you know, test

1300
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:25.800
driving the Holy Deck, you know, on the whole though

1301
01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:29.920
it was a little uneven for me. It wasn't always

1302
01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:32.159
as hilariously gut busting funny as I think it was

1303
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:36.399
for everyone else. And that's okay, you know, comedy like

1304
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:40.439
any piece of artists objective, right, But I enjoyed it.

1305
01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.520
I'm just I really need to get back to exploration,

1306
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.239
which is what I really watched dar Trek for, right.

1307
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:48.520
I need to see them getting out there and having

1308
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.720
their minds blown by something that you know is less

1309
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:55.920
than familiar. There's so much reverence and homaging going on

1310
01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:58.560
to things we already know, you know, the Gorn and

1311
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:03.000
Roger Corby and Trelaine and I know this stuff, right,

1312
01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:06.640
It's like, I get it. I really need some exploration, though,

1313
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:08.279
and I need to see something that we have not

1314
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:11.359
seen before, or see something that we do know about,

1315
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:13.520
but look at it from a new way that seems

1316
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:17.359
fresh and original. So I think this was a fun episode.

1317
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:20.439
I got to, you know, great all of the episodes

1318
01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:22.920
next to each other though, next to everything that's come before.

1319
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:25.640
And while this was fun, I can't get much past

1320
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:28.560
to seven. I think seven is about honest for me

1321
01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:32.279
on this one. So that's where I'll leave it. And again,

1322
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:34.399
what's up with this bock thing? Right? I mean? Is

1323
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:38.720
apparently flirting isn't a contingent on like confar and the

1324
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:41.239
seven year making mating cycle? I mean, or is it?

1325
01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:44.119
Or is he just right now at beginning year seven

1326
01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:46.520
and then seven years later? Is amok time? Is that

1327
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.800
how we're gonna retcon? The math? Is that it? Because

1328
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:52.479
he seems to be really going having a not quite

1329
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:56.159
a very calm pond. Far Lee hasn't thrown anything yet

1330
01:20:56.359 --> 01:21:01.239
or punched anything, but he's really a horn dog. I

1331
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:03.119
mean it seems like right, he's just like you know,

1332
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:05.520
you know, you can't keep it in your pants for

1333
01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:06.640
a week's bock? I mean you know.

1334
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:10.800
Yeah, that's the way I said. He's half humans, so

1335
01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:12.399
half of seven years.

1336
01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:16.720
Good, I guess. So yeah, it's just you know, I mean,

1337
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:18.680
great on a curve or something. But I don't know,

1338
01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.119
but I'll be curious to see what they what they do.

1339
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:24.600
I can't see that he's gonna have another god police,

1340
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:28.720
pardon the expression, full blown relationship with Lawn like he

1341
01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:31.159
did with Christine. That would seem odd to me, but

1342
01:21:31.279 --> 01:21:34.039
hopefully that was like a brief thing and he's going

1343
01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:37.199
to go reflect and think about it. But very interesting.

1344
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:39.720
I'm curious to see what's in the opera for tonight.

1345
01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:42.359
So yeah, something for me, but enjoyable, A nice, a

1346
01:21:42.439 --> 01:21:45.920
nice thing, you know, good work cast.

1347
01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:48.880
Well. You know, one of the things I like about

1348
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:52.680
Strange New Worlds, Paul, is that they can have complete

1349
01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:55.520
mood swings from episode to episode, and they're not afraid

1350
01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:58.239
to do something like a singing episode, which I was

1351
01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:01.279
one hundred percent positive was gonna sock and it was

1352
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:04.319
one of the best ones. You know, they can do

1353
01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:07.880
different things and make it work, and that's something I

1354
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:09.800
like about the show. You never know what you're gonna

1355
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:13.680
get from week to week, and generally speaking, they're good.

1356
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:19.039
So kudos to Jonathan Frakes and the people at Strange

1357
01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:21.960
New world So Charles. Our fans gave it a seven

1358
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.920
point seven. What about the Truck Spurts.

1359
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:30.920
Drek Spurts gave a nine point one. Experts liked this episode.

1360
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:36.000
Trek Spurts liked it. That's cool. Well, I think it

1361
01:22:36.159 --> 01:22:38.119
was that one guy that gave it a one. I

1362
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:40.760
think now, yeah, you know that pulled it right now

1363
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:43.720
that that hurt? All right, guys, So there you go,

1364
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:48.199
and then that's our review for this week. There won't

1365
01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:50.399
be a show next week because I'm gonna be on vacation,

1366
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:53.199
so we can take a week off and reflect on

1367
01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:57.319
tonight's episode. All right. So you know what that means,

1368
01:22:57.359 --> 01:23:02.800
don't you. It's time for our Star Trek birthdays, which

1369
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:05.079
means which means this.

1370
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:24.399
That was not a clemon song.

1371
01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:26.960
All right, guys. This is the part of the show

1372
01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.279
where we remember our Star Trek family members who, sadly enough,

1373
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:33.159
are no longer with us, and for that we turned

1374
01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:34.760
to Eric Jim.

1375
01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:38.439
We start our remembrances this week with actor Paul Lambert.

1376
01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:41.520
Paul Lambert was an actor who played Mellion in the

1377
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.159
Next Generation first season episode When the Bow Breaks. He

1378
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:49.800
also played Howard Clark in the fourth season episode Devil's Due.

1379
01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:54.520
This gentleman got his first big on screen role in

1380
01:23:54.840 --> 01:23:58.199
Spartacus in nineteen sixty What a way to start, huh,

1381
01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:01.479
and primarily a stage actor, so Tons and tons of

1382
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:05.439
stage credits to his name. He was also a play

1383
01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:09.640
right stage director. He wrote, directed, and acted in his

1384
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:14.479
own play at one point called Interior Hollywood Day. You

1385
01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:16.279
should go see if you can find that. I know,

1386
01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:18.319
I want to. We lost him all the way back

1387
01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:20.520
in nineteen ninety seven. Paul Lambert would have had a

1388
01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:25.039
birthday August first. Happy birthday, Paul. Happy birthday as well

1389
01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:29.760
to Barbara Townsend, the actress who played Vice Admiral Canal

1390
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:35.920
Rosa in Next Generation four season episodes Suddenly Human. She

1391
01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:40.239
got started in her television career back in the forties

1392
01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:44.760
and fifties, and you know, mostly did guest star stuff

1393
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:51.439
along the way. She's got, you know, some some work

1394
01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:53.159
in there, not a ton of ton of work. But

1395
01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:55.920
of course she was on that show that was after Mash,

1396
01:24:56.039 --> 01:25:03.560
called After Mash, which I never actually saw, but I

1397
01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:05.880
don't know, I don't know if it was if it

1398
01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:07.119
was any good or not. I know it was a

1399
01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:11.000
sequel to Mash. But anyway, Barbara Townsend would have had

1400
01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:13.520
a birthday August fourth, just a few days ago, and

1401
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:15.439
we lost her back in two thousand and two. Happy

1402
01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:19.000
birthday to Barbara. Happy birthday as well to David Bryan,

1403
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:22.039
the actor who appeared as John Gill in the TOS

1404
01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:27.079
second season episode Patterns of Force. He was born under

1405
01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:31.399
a different name, Brian James Davis on August fifth, and

1406
01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:35.119
graduated from college and became a dorman and then eventually

1407
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:38.880
ended up in an acting career. Has seventy seven credits

1408
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:43.960
besides Star Trek on his resume, including things like The Untouchables,

1409
01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:47.880
I Dream of Geenie, Rawhide, Gun Smoke, Mission Impossible, all

1410
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:50.800
them shows from Back in the Day, Happy Birthday to

1411
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:53.760
David Brian, and last but not least, this is a

1412
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:56.960
big in this week. We were just talking about the

1413
01:25:57.079 --> 01:26:01.119
first lady of Star Trek here and Lucille Ball's birthday

1414
01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:06.600
was just yesterday. She was born at August sixth, nineteen eleven.

1415
01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:09.920
Unfortunately we lost her way back in nineteen eighty nine.

1416
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:12.359
She of course, is the actress and comedian best known

1417
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:17.680
for her titular role on I Love Lucy, and then

1418
01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:22.960
became the chief executive of Desilu's Studios, which is often

1419
01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:28.279
credited with saving Star Trek from the trash heap. I

1420
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:31.039
think we all know a lot about Lucille Ball. Of course,

1421
01:26:31.119 --> 01:26:37.079
her former husband Desi Arnez. When Desilu actually bought Gide

1422
01:26:37.119 --> 01:26:42.960
Roddenberry's pitch called Star Trek Is in nineteen sixty four,

1423
01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:48.359
she in effect became the first identifiable individual, legal and

1424
01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:52.600
commercial owner of what would become the Star Trek franchise.

1425
01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:56.039
I think that is pretty cool. She's famous for so

1426
01:26:56.159 --> 01:27:01.840
many things, not only her show, her involvement in Star Trek,

1427
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:06.640
but also her USO tours along the way back in

1428
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:09.760
the day. So I think we all owe a huge

1429
01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:14.600
debt to Lucille Ball for saving the franchise that we

1430
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:17.560
all have grown to know and love. So Happy Birthday

1431
01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:21.640
to Lucille Ball. And that does it for our remembrances

1432
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:24.199
this week, so I will pass this flaming birthday candle

1433
01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:25.359
over to Charms.

1434
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.880
Thank you, Maren. Let's start off with a Happy birthday

1435
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:35.760
to Doug worked as the actress who appeared as Jack

1436
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:41.920
our Crusher as Star Trek's next generation family Violation and Journeys.

1437
01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:52.279
And Happy birthday to brigid Ron, actress who played Ruby

1438
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:59.359
and Star Trek Enterprises second season episode First Flight, Happy

1439
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:04.600
birthdaye Owen Joan Cassidy, actress who played tu Less and

1440
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:11.039
enterprises four season episode Home and Awakening. Heavy birthday to

1441
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:17.359
Clayton Runner, actress who portray Admiral Mark Jamieson and TG's

1442
01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:24.279
first season episode Too Short a Season. Heavy birthday to

1443
01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:31.560
Buck Tanita, you mean Ray Bucktaneda, actress who played Dios

1444
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:35.439
and DS nine this season episode by the Inferior Light.

1445
01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:42.920
Happy birthday, one of my favorite ones. Happy birthday Catherine Hicks,

1446
01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:47.199
actress who played doctor Gillian Taylor and Star Trek for

1447
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:56.760
the Voyage Home character that disappeared from Earth. And then

1448
01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:00.479
I added one more to my list which I really

1449
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:04.000
wanted to add in here. Happy very happy birthday to

1450
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:08.760
Sir rock Lofton, actress who played Jake Sisko in seventy

1451
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:15.800
one episode of Deep Space nine and very active in

1452
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:22.600
the community and the podcast world. Paul, who's on your

1453
01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:25.479
birthday list. As I hand you this flaming.

1454
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:29.800
Casile, Thank you, Choernles appreciate that. First of all, let's

1455
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:34.039
say happy birthday to English actor Stephen Burkoff, who played

1456
01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:38.199
hey Gath in Deep Space nine's fifth season episode Business

1457
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:43.680
as Usual. Stephen Burkoff is quite an acclaimed acting teacher

1458
01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:47.920
in addition to as many theatrical credits, and during the

1459
01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:51.640
eighties and early nineties. He was a bad guy in

1460
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:53.800
a lot of movies. He got cast as the heavy

1461
01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:57.800
and could be very menacing performer. So a lot of

1462
01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:02.279
cool roles that you'll occasionally encounter. Man, So very happy birthday. Indeed,

1463
01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:06.560
Happy birthday to Molly Hagen. It played e Reese in

1464
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:10.279
Deep Space nine second season episode The Gem hadar introductory

1465
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:15.039
episode there. Happy birthday to Leland Orser, actor who appeared

1466
01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:17.840
as a guy in Deep Space nine second season episode

1467
01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:22.199
Sanctuary as Lovak in third season episode The die Is cast,

1468
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:27.520
de Jarin in the Voyager fourth season episode Revulsion, and

1469
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:31.840
Loomis in the Enterprise third season episode Carpenter Street.

1470
01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:32.600
So what is that?

1471
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:38.760
Four spokes of the franchise wheel that leland Orser has

1472
01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:40.920
been in. Wow, getting a lot of work there, friend,

1473
01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:47.880
Pretty impressive. So Deep Space nine, Voyager, Enterprise, all over

1474
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:51.279
the place, very impressive. I guess that's three because two

1475
01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:54.479
of them are Space nine episodes. I suck it man,

1476
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:58.600
just by the way. Happy birthday to Angus Imrie, British

1477
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:01.800
actor who voiced Zero Star Trek Prodigy, which we kind

1478
01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:03.680
of miss. I think a lot of us were hoping

1479
01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:06.159
there would be more Prodigy, but I think what we've

1480
01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:09.600
got is what we're gonna get that, but Zero's super

1481
01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:13.560
popular character there, which was great. Happy birthday to Louise Sorell,

1482
01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:18.000
actress who played Raina Kaipik in the third season original

1483
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:24.039
series episode Requiem for Methuselah. And let's go back to

1484
01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:28.279
Prodigy again and say happy birthday to Brent Gray, American

1485
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:33.239
actor and singer who voiced lead character Dalrell in Star

1486
01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:36.840
Trek Prodigy, who was fantastic and did a wonderful job

1487
01:31:37.039 --> 01:31:39.960
of giving that character a lot of depth and resonance

1488
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:43.560
across all the episodes. Big fan of the work.

1489
01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:43.840
There.

1490
01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:47.880
Excellent protagonists for that show. And that'll wrap up my

1491
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:51.159
serving of birthday cake. Let's see what Uncle Jim's got.

1492
01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:55.680
Why, thank you so much, Paul. We're going to start

1493
01:31:55.720 --> 01:31:59.520
off with perhaps one of the greatest Star Trek films.

1494
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:03.520
We want to say happy birthday to Melanie Shatner. And

1495
01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:07.000
if that name sounds familiar, it should. She's the daughter

1496
01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:11.359
of William Shatner himself. She's a former actress who appeared

1497
01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:14.479
as a jogger in Star Trek for the Voyage Home,

1498
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:17.720
but she also appeared in Star Trek five. The Final

1499
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:22.640
Frontier is the captain's yeo men, and happy happy birthday

1500
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:28.319
to Melanie Shatner. We also want to say happy birthday

1501
01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:33.039
to Melissa George, the Australian actress who played Viena in

1502
01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:37.600
Star Trek Discovery second season episode if memory serves, and

1503
01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:40.920
if you guys, if you haven't seen that episode, there's

1504
01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:44.800
an awesome, awesome flashback at the very beginning of that

1505
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:51.439
episode that shows Anson Mount's Captain Pike reflecting on Jeffrey

1506
01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:56.039
Hunter's Captain Pike and gets that transition between the two

1507
01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:59.000
to tell all those fans out there that was screaming

1508
01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:02.319
that it's not it's not Cannon, They're different, blah blah blah,

1509
01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:05.079
to pull your heads out of your asses. This is

1510
01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:08.039
the same character and here's the proof. And that was

1511
01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:12.119
the episode. But I practically I know her from the

1512
01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:17.319
remake of Amityville Horror. She starred in the remake of

1513
01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:20.760
Amityville Horror, which is a pretty cool movie. Happy birthday

1514
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:25.920
to Melissa George. And we have another great one here,

1515
01:33:27.079 --> 01:33:33.520
the awesome, the incredible Michelle Hyo Oscar winner Michelle Hyo

1516
01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:39.000
Chinese Malaysian actors who played Philippa Giorgio in Discovery as

1517
01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:42.920
well as the Mirror Universe version of Philip Georgio, and

1518
01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:45.079
of course she came back to star in the spinoff

1519
01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:50.039
movie Star Trek Section thirty one. She's awesome. That scene

1520
01:33:50.039 --> 01:33:52.600
where she kicks Lorca in the face and he's behind

1521
01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:54.960
her just blows my mind every time I think of it.

1522
01:33:55.479 --> 01:33:58.520
Happy birthday, Michelle Yo. We're lucky to have her in

1523
01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:02.960
our Star Trek family. And usually I do the Klingons.

1524
01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:05.199
I think Michelle Yo is pretty close to a Klingon.

1525
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:09.359
She'll kick your button take names, but I do have

1526
01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:12.720
a couple of cool ass Klingons on my list. I

1527
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:17.199
will start off with Shannon cochrane. She's the actress who

1528
01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:21.680
had a supporting role in Star Trek Nemesis as Toalara.

1529
01:34:22.119 --> 01:34:24.199
She's one of the ones that melted in the beginning

1530
01:34:24.279 --> 01:34:28.079
of the movie there. She also played Khalita in the

1531
01:34:28.159 --> 01:34:34.000
TNG episode Preemptive Strike, but I am remembering her as

1532
01:34:34.079 --> 01:34:38.399
Sorilla from Deep Space nine. You were cordially invited. We

1533
01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:40.760
had a trivia question about her and Dex a little

1534
01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:45.199
while ago, and she is the wife of General Martak

1535
01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:50.760
on Star Trek Deep Space nine. Sopla to Shannon Cochrane.

1536
01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:56.199
And although most people don't know our next actor as

1537
01:34:56.359 --> 01:35:00.800
a Klingon, I sure do. And we want to say

1538
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:04.920
a happy happy birthday to Bruce Horrick, the Canadian actor

1539
01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:08.680
and artist who played Hammer in Deep Space I'm Sorry

1540
01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:12.439
in Strange New World season one, and he reprised that

1541
01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:17.279
role as zombie Hammer in season two, became Black as Garcog,

1542
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:22.840
the dancing, singing klingon in Subspace Rhapsody, and I got

1543
01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:25.520
to say he was so much fun to talk to.

1544
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:28.600
If you guys missed that interview with him, please please

1545
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:30.399
go and check it out. You can find that over

1546
01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.359
at trek talkin dot com. He was a lot of

1547
01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:38.840
fun to talk to. He played cancer, he does gobblin Shakespeare.

1548
01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:41.800
Very informative, very fun guy, and we had a lot

1549
01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:46.159
of fun talking with him. So happy birthday to Bruce Horrick.

1550
01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:50.920
And that, my friends, wraps up our Star Trek birthdays

1551
01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:55.199
for this week. And now it's time for our Star

1552
01:35:55.399 --> 01:35:59.039
Trek News, which means I have to find there.

1553
01:35:59.119 --> 01:35:59.399
It is.

1554
01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:04.800
Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secure.

1555
01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:11.359
Channel incoming transmission enter authorization code command codes verified.

1556
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:16.960
Define parameters of program level nine authorization.

1557
01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:21.600
Required, specified parameters, transfer updata is complete.

1558
01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:25.079
A blank alert, A blank alert.

1559
01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:27.680
All right, guys, this is the part of the show

1560
01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:29.560
where we do some Star Trek news. You can find

1561
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:32.600
these stories in their entirety at Truck Talking and Beyond

1562
01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:36.760
and who has our first story tonight? Looks like Eric

1563
01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:38.279
has our first story for tonight.

1564
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:42.880
All right, I believe that this is news out of

1565
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.560
visit Star Trek Las Vegas. That's my guess. Cybok teased

1566
01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:52.560
a tas episode scrapped and more Star Trek Strange New Worlds.

1567
01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:56.000
There were a couple of hints from the showrunners about

1568
01:36:56.119 --> 01:36:59.880
some returning characters, without identifying which season. A Season one

1569
01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:04.039
episode tease the appearance of Siebox Box half brother, introduced

1570
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:07.520
in Star Trek five the Final Frontier. So when asked

1571
01:37:07.720 --> 01:37:10.159
by the Hollywood reporter if we will see him again,

1572
01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:15.800
the co showrunners indicated we will, but a bit cryptically

1573
01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:20.560
Keiva Goldsman, it's interesting you should ask, and then Alonso

1574
01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:24.439
Henry Lonzo Meyer says, you very well may see Sybock

1575
01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:28.720
a version of Sybock. Yes, they tease that Romulins will

1576
01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:32.399
be back as well. Myers, you saw Romulins in season one,

1577
01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:36.439
but you may see them again. Regarding the puppet episode,

1578
01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:38.680
you may wonder how exactly did Pike and crew get

1579
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:43.680
transformed into puppets. Co show runner Akiva Goldsman explained, there

1580
01:37:43.960 --> 01:37:48.520
might have been an unexpected and terrible transporter accident which

1581
01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:54.560
might have had some unexpected felt like effects. Love it,

1582
01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:58.640
but we look forward to learning about it in season four.

1583
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:01.760
The show runners confirmed that they have already broken down

1584
01:38:01.880 --> 01:38:05.119
the six episodes planned for season five, which should begin

1585
01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:08.279
production by the end of this year. Kiva Goldsman has

1586
01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:11.720
already indicated that they plan to end the series in

1587
01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:14.439
season five by showing James T. Kirk's first day in

1588
01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:18.039
command of the USS Enterprise, and the show already has

1589
01:38:18.159 --> 01:38:22.520
much of Kirk's crew aboard already, especially with the addition

1590
01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:25.840
of Scotty played by Martin Quinn in season three. There

1591
01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:30.039
are still a few key characters missing, including doctor McCoy, Sulu,

1592
01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:33.359
and Chekhov, who of course didn't show up until season

1593
01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:37.279
two of the original series. Goldsman noted that he sees

1594
01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:41.079
the start of TOS as where no man has gone before.

1595
01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:44.680
He elaborated how that impacts the way they will be

1596
01:38:44.840 --> 01:38:48.720
introducing more members of Kirk's crewe. He says the full

1597
01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:51.119
og cast doesn't exist at the very front of the

1598
01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:54.159
tos era, so we are going to get as close

1599
01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:58.039
as possible while not jumping deep into the tos era.

1600
01:38:58.840 --> 01:39:00.800
And Meyer says, you're going to meets some of them

1601
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:04.760
for sure, and there's going to be some surprises. Ethan

1602
01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:08.119
Peck confirmed that as the series moves into that final season,

1603
01:39:08.279 --> 01:39:11.680
his performance will grow closer to that of Leonard Nimoy,

1604
01:39:12.119 --> 01:39:15.319
the original Spock on the original series. Ah see, this

1605
01:39:15.479 --> 01:39:18.680
is all of this relationship stuff. Now they're honing him

1606
01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:22.720
into the emotionless character we will see later. Ethan Peck says, Yeah,

1607
01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:25.239
I'm going to try and get more nim Oy.

1608
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:25.520
Like.

1609
01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:29.159
It's funny since at the very beginning, I've done my

1610
01:39:29.279 --> 01:39:32.720
best nime Oy and the writer has a lot to

1611
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:36.119
do as well, because the writing makes room for emotion,

1612
01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:38.520
and I guess they'll write it in a way that

1613
01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:42.680
will make less room for it and it should be

1614
01:39:43.479 --> 01:39:49.199
much more computational. The showrunners also talked to The Hollywood

1615
01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:51.960
Reporter about an episode they aren't doing, but said they

1616
01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:54.159
came close to making an episode in the style of

1617
01:39:54.199 --> 01:39:58.520
Star Trek, the animated series. Goldsman says, we consider doing

1618
01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:01.079
an all animated sort of tea version of the show,

1619
01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:04.239
and we abandoned it. There are a series of ideas

1620
01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:08.720
we just end up not We only have ten episodes

1621
01:40:08.760 --> 01:40:12.039
per season, so that was one we really dug pretty

1622
01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:15.680
deep into but ultimately abandoned. Meyers says, we love the

1623
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:18.399
animated series and we were looking at ways to bring

1624
01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:21.239
it into the show, but we are not always capable

1625
01:40:21.279 --> 01:40:23.600
of finding something to do in every format we want

1626
01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:25.880
to do. It's more about spending a lot of time

1627
01:40:26.119 --> 01:40:29.039
on what's an interesting format we have not seen on

1628
01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:34.199
our show. That's what we spend our time with. Yeah, see,

1629
01:40:34.279 --> 01:40:36.439
that's kind of interesting. We were getting that feel anyway.

1630
01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:39.159
Production on season four is complete and it's expected to

1631
01:40:39.239 --> 01:40:42.319
arrive in twenty twenty six. Filming on season five should

1632
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:45.199
begin by the end of this year for a likely

1633
01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:49.359
twenty twenty seven debut. And yeah, that's one thing I've

1634
01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:51.920
kind of been noticing. It does feel like this season

1635
01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:55.159
especially a little bit of a revolving door of formats,

1636
01:40:55.399 --> 01:40:56.960
like they just sat in a room and they said, Okay,

1637
01:40:57.039 --> 01:40:59.279
we need to do this type episode. We need to

1638
01:40:59.319 --> 01:41:01.079
do this type so we need to do this type

1639
01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:04.319
of episode, rather than focusing on what, for example, Paul

1640
01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:08.640
was talking about, which was exploring right, forget about the format,

1641
01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.119
just go and explore some planets. So anyway, I'm still

1642
01:41:12.159 --> 01:41:15.159
liking it. But but it is interesting that they consciously

1643
01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:16.640
made that decision.

1644
01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:19.600
Sounds to me like they're a little bit more concerned

1645
01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:23.920
over style than story. Yeah, exactly, that's and that's probably

1646
01:41:24.039 --> 01:41:25.840
you know, it's like it's like, you know, it's like

1647
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:29.720
we're oh, we're format, right, or just like they want

1648
01:41:29.800 --> 01:41:33.279
to like give all these different you know, artistic disciplines

1649
01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:36.239
a chance to you know, focus. But at the at

1650
01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:41.359
the expense of what it's a very it sounds more

1651
01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:43.840
like a producer than a writer's perspective, which I'm really

1652
01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:47.399
surprised at from Henry Alonzo Myers because I expect better

1653
01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:53.039
from them. But yeah, I just hope that they let

1654
01:41:53.159 --> 01:41:57.479
story and character and you know, fresh ideas start to

1655
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:01.840
get you know, a little more prominent in the remaining episodes.

1656
01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:05.000
Again, yeah, I agreed.

1657
01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:08.079
Butbo come on, did you did you not hear the

1658
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:13.479
I've been waiting since we first saw him there the

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01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:16.239
image that David has up there on the screen where

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01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:20.560
we see Sybox's back staring out the window, Oh my god,

1661
01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:22.960
I've been waiting for. To me, that was the whole

1662
01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:26.439
point of the story. Sybok will be back. How are

1663
01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:29.680
they going to work that into the story. That's what

1664
01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:32.720
I'm interested in seeing, because, as you all know, Star

1665
01:42:32.760 --> 01:42:36.119
Trek five is the ultimate Star Trek movie, so we

1666
01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:36.920
didn't know that.

1667
01:42:42.479 --> 01:42:45.479
Yeah, speaking of.

1668
01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:51.640
What I want to see, all right, Yes, I'm excited

1669
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:55.079
and I'm just I can't wait for when the fans

1670
01:42:55.239 --> 01:42:59.319
rate this episode, because for the one step didn't like

1671
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:04.079
the episode we reviewed tonight, I'm sure they're going to

1672
01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:10.079
have They're going to trap the proverbial brick over this one.

1673
01:43:10.319 --> 01:43:14.520
But Star Trek Strange New world spent more than six

1674
01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:20.680
months turning cast into puppets for season four. With the

1675
01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:24.239
San Diego Comic Con came news from the Trek sphere

1676
01:43:24.840 --> 01:43:28.199
that Star Trek Strange New Worlds will be turning their

1677
01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:33.439
main cast into puppets for a season four episode who.

1678
01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:38.560
Fans also got a first look at puppet Pike aka

1679
01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:44.880
Andson Mounts Captain Pike in puppet form. Showrunners Akiva Goldsman

1680
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:48.359
and Henry Alonzo Meyers shared more details. I want to

1681
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:51.239
say there was easily more than six months of work

1682
01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:57.680
on it, Meyers reveals, alongside all the other prep meetings

1683
01:43:57.760 --> 01:44:01.399
for every episode, there was always a separate puppet meeting.

1684
01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:06.119
I would like to be in. That sounds fun. The

1685
01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:12.199
duo began conversations or began having conversations about puppets around

1686
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:16.479
the making of season three, which is currently dropping weekly

1687
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.359
on Paramount Plus. I was familiar with how to do

1688
01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:23.119
some of this stuff, Meyer said. In production, we'd have

1689
01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:28.399
long conversations with our director in mind, specifically specifically about

1690
01:44:28.479 --> 01:44:32.640
how to handle puppets. Yeah, we had to have a

1691
01:44:32.680 --> 01:44:36.159
lot of conversations about making puppets. We had to have

1692
01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:39.399
a lot of conversations about how to handle our crew

1693
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:43.279
because we also have to have a whole crew of puppeteers.

1694
01:44:44.119 --> 01:44:46.720
It's just like doing a very different type of episode,

1695
01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:49.439
and it requires a lot of time and care to

1696
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:52.359
do it. What was it like seeing the crew and

1697
01:44:52.479 --> 01:44:56.239
puppet form for the first time. You cannot believe the

1698
01:44:56.439 --> 01:45:00.720
Chrissy puppet. There are no words, Goldsmith's as referring to

1699
01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:05.960
the Christina Chong Lahn puppet. Insane is the word Shong

1700
01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:09.239
uses to describe reading that episode for the first time.

1701
01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:15.920
Pure joy. Jess Bush Chapel ads, it's an amazing script.

1702
01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:20.640
Rebecca Romain number one comments, there's so many things that

1703
01:45:20.760 --> 01:45:24.359
are hard and challenging about this. Meyer says, but then

1704
01:45:24.439 --> 01:45:28.680
you'd go and look at the puppets and everything was okay.

1705
01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:32.319
So there you have it. I look forward to it.

1706
01:45:34.159 --> 01:45:36.520
They're not puppets, so they're muppets.

1707
01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:39.239
I know, I was reading Puppets and I wanted to

1708
01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:40.159
say bumpets.

1709
01:45:40.279 --> 01:45:43.640
Yes, yeah, let's be accurate here. But you know, I

1710
01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:48.000
think Paul's you know, I think Paul is right. So far,

1711
01:45:48.159 --> 01:45:52.800
though these episodes have not been a let out like

1712
01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:58.600
Subspace Rhapsody, you know, the crossover episode with Lower Decks.

1713
01:45:59.119 --> 01:46:03.319
They've all been good at sisodes. But you know, we

1714
01:46:03.439 --> 01:46:06.680
need to be out in space. We need to be

1715
01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:11.600
looking for Sidebox. You know what I'm saying. You know

1716
01:46:12.159 --> 01:46:15.039
he's out there. He's looking for shak Kyrie.

1717
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:18.760
Well you know what you know what Sidebox connection is

1718
01:46:18.840 --> 01:46:20.600
with Lucille Ball, don't you.

1719
01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:25.000
Yeah, we had uh he's married to.

1720
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:27.720
Yuh.

1721
01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:33.800
We can't hear you, Jim. Your cat is blocking your microphone.

1722
01:46:38.199 --> 01:46:38.880
We can hear.

1723
01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:42.000
Struggle.

1724
01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:46.199
One of those moments that maybe we were better, you know,

1725
01:46:47.199 --> 01:46:48.000
having off their.

1726
01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:55.640
H well, anyway, I just think it's cool that he

1727
01:46:55.960 --> 01:47:01.680
was Sibock and being married to Lucier and as Lucy's daughter,

1728
01:47:01.880 --> 01:47:07.720
so there's that whole connection within the connection eh my cat.

1729
01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:10.119
Yeah, we know.

1730
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:20.239
That they take turns the cat the Anakin and then

1731
01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:25.800
Leya Anakin and then Leya anyways, so I guess that

1732
01:47:26.079 --> 01:47:30.680
that's a rap. Guys, huh mm hmmm. Unless there's anything

1733
01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:37.359
anybody wants to add, we're considering or're thinking about talking

1734
01:47:37.399 --> 01:47:41.039
about the new Alien series. So you guys want to

1735
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:43.520
drop us a line on our Facebook page. You can

1736
01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:46.199
go to Trek Talking dot com. There's a little green

1737
01:47:46.319 --> 01:47:49.279
talkback mike in the bottom right hand corner. If you

1738
01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:51.319
have any ideas for shows. If you'd like to hear

1739
01:47:51.399 --> 01:47:55.000
us talk about the new Alien series or something else,

1740
01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:56.920
just go there and record us a little message. That's

1741
01:47:56.920 --> 01:48:01.560
how we that's how we found v right van Yep, yep.

1742
01:48:01.720 --> 01:48:03.319
Just go there, leave us a message. We'll play it

1743
01:48:03.399 --> 01:48:09.640
on air, and we'll take your suggestions under advisement. As

1744
01:48:09.680 --> 01:48:11.319
I already said, there won't be a show next week

1745
01:48:11.359 --> 01:48:14.319
because I will be on vacation, So you guys can

1746
01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:19.600
take the day off enjoy a Thursday off and that's

1747
01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:22.600
about it. So I'm your most excellent host, uncle Jim

1748
01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:25.479
saying everybody please stay safety, good to each other. Startrip

1749
01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:27.720
fans are the best fans. And thank you so much

1750
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.239
to Charles for hanging out in trek talking with us.

1751
01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:32.760
Thank you Charles, Thank you Jim.

1752
01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:34.960
It's always fun talking to truck spurts.

1753
01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:38.720
And of course thank you to Paul for hanging out

1754
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:41.079
in trek talking with us as well. Thank you Paul.

1755
01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:43.359
Never a dull moment, isn't there.

1756
01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:49.079
No, especially when Anakin is here. And thank you to

1757
01:48:49.239 --> 01:48:51.399
v for hanging out in trek talking with us as well.

1758
01:48:51.479 --> 01:48:51.880
Thank you, V.

1759
01:48:52.399 --> 01:48:55.159
A's always a pleasure, and.

1760
01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:56.720
Of course thank you to Eric as well.

1761
01:48:56.760 --> 01:48:59.560
Thank you so much, Eric, absolutely, thank you all.

1762
01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:02.359
And thank you to David, our America worker, for these

1763
01:49:02.479 --> 01:49:06.079
awesome slide shows and videos which if you guys head

1764
01:49:06.119 --> 01:49:08.319
on over to our page and become a patron you'll

1765
01:49:08.359 --> 01:49:11.720
be able to watch them instead of hearing us describe them,

1766
01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:13.600
and David puts a lot of time into those, so

1767
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:15.000
thank you so much. David.

1768
01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:17.920
Yeah, it's been fun. I really enjoy this.

1769
01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:22.000
They look good. It is a lot of fun, all right, guys,

1770
01:49:22.079 --> 01:49:24.359
So we're gonna have taken a vacation for next week,

1771
01:49:24.439 --> 01:49:26.920
but please go check out our Bruce Horrick interview. It

1772
01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:29.079
was a lot of fun and we will catch up

1773
01:49:29.119 --> 01:49:32.159
to you guys in two weeks. Thanks a lot. Hailing

1774
01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:41.640
frequencies are closed. Good night everybody, no prosper all stations

1775
01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:49.079
ready for departure, sir. Some problem ricca Just hoping this

1776
01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:51.960
isn't the usual way of missions will go, sir. Oh no,

1777
01:49:52.159 --> 01:49:55.640
number one. I'm sure it most will be much more interesting.

1778
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:01.159
See what's out there.

1779
01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:03.720
Again?

1780
01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:15.560
A real person wh