April 4, 2025

Episode 630- Great Star Trek Performances

Episode 630- Great Star Trek Performances

n this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and his cohosts engage in lively discussions about various aspects of the Star Trek universe, including fan shout outs, poll results, and the ethical dilemmas presented in episodes like 'I Borg'. They also...

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n this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and his cohosts engage in lively discussions about various aspects of the Star Trek universe, including fan shout outs, poll results, and the ethical dilemmas presented in episodes like 'I Borg'. They also delve into the latest teaser trailer for Strange New Worlds Season 3, sharing their thoughts and reactions to the content and direction of the series. In this conversation, they delve into the emotional depth and character development within the Star Trek universe, particularly focusing on the balance between fun and serious themes in storytelling. They discuss the importance of context in understanding character motivations and the impact of performances by various actors throughout the series. The conversation highlights memorable performances and the significance of engaging the audience through relatable and compelling narratives. In this engaging conversation, the hosts delve into the impact of iconic characters and actors in the Star Trek universe, particularly focusing on John Delancey's portrayal of Q, the comedic charm of Harry Mudd, and the depth of characters in episodes like 'Duet'. They explore the evolution of villains in Star Trek, celebrate the birthdays of notable actors, and discuss exciting new merchandise that fans can look forward to. Let's see what's out there...ENGAGE!

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Make it so, everybody, let's go about the series. Helling

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us live in under phone. Now about the series We're

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coming to n services.

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Now we talk about the series.

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Of the Stone.

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Now, j.

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Well, good evening, Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe. It

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is Thursday, April third, twenty twenty five. Welcome to Trek Talking,

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Episode six hundred and thirty. Wow, before we go too far,

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I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast,

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and i'd like to introduce to you my awesome trek sperts.

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And we'll start off with Paul. Paul is out in Portland.

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How you doing, Paul?

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Hey, Uncle Jim and brethren, how are we doing today? Doing? Okay,

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It's been a crazy week in my universe, but I

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am excited to escape from it for a while and

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discuss all these interesting things. I think we have a

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fun show, and absolutely.

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We definitely do. We also have Eric. Eric is out

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in Portland as well. How you doing tonight?

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Eric also doing pretty good, also had a crazy week,

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my star trek fans of the Northwest t shirt tonight

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feeling good about talking about some of our favorite great performances,

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so that I'm very excited about the show actually.

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And also out in Portland we have David. But David

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appears to be having some technical difficulties right now, so

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we'll swing back. Okay, we can hear you, but we

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can't see.

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Yeah, no, yeah, someone something going on with my computer.

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I don't understand that it's saying that my camera went

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offline because I have to close other applications just using it.

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I'm like, I have nothing else open except for these

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slide shows. And for some reason, my slide show just

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here and I'm like, what, So, I'm not sure what's

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going on?

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Well, brother went down, you know what. I recommend that

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you try blame blame elon.

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Okay, well we can't. We can't blame blog talk radio anymore,

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like I know, yeah, thank god for that.

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Yeah, the last master of that ship finally sunk beneath

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the waves.

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That is.

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Well, while we're waiting for David to uh to come

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and see us, we're gonna move on over to Las

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Vegas and say hey to Charles. How you doing tonight, Charles,

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I'm doing good.

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Get a chance to be in the outdoor studio today.

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Crazy weather in Vegas, the palm trees. Winter came back,

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palm trees.

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We had spring, then we go back to winter. Then

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I hear we might get spring in early summer next week.

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We'll take it with you.

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Yeah, right, If they were Jim, it'd be snowing here.

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Wow.

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All right, So David is still not with us. You

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great performances on Star Trek. We've each one of us

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has gone through and picked three of our favorite appearances

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of actors on Star Trek, and we're going to talk

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about them tonight, all Star Trek, not just TOS or TNG,

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but all Star Trek. We also have our Star Trek

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fan shout outs where we thank our fans around the globe,

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just like you right there. We have our Star Trek

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poll questions and fan reactions to Star Trek Strange New

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World season three teaser trailer. Have you seen it? What

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did you think about it? We also have our Star

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Trek birthdays and what's going on around the Star Trek universe.

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We have a Star Trek.

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Academy update, Michelle Nicols, Space Star Trek Omega wraps up

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IDW's comic book series, and just for Paul Nascell Wave

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two action figures. And that, my friends, is what we

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have and planned for you tonight. So without any further ado, Eric,

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would you like to get us started with our fans

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shout outs? We're still waiting for David. Yeah?

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Would I ever?

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I'm gonna spin this globe over to the European side

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of things, just a little bit east of where we

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all are right now, and I'm going to say hello

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to Carl. I'msen Carl Eisen probably pronounced eesen Off Deutsch,

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is my guest is sending us hailing frequencies from Germany

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with that awesome livelong and prosper emoji, which I'm positive

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is what got Jim's attention. Carl, we really appreciate your

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support over there in Germany, and I hope to make

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it to your wonderful country one of these days. I

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have a lot of familiar background there and would love

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to see all of the places and taste all of

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the foods and all the smells and all that good stuff.

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So thank you so much for saying hello to us.

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I'd also like to move just a little bit west

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and north and say hello this week to Petra Shehian,

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who saying hello to us from Dublin to Ireland. Dublin, Ireland,

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lots and lots of support over there on that wonderful

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part of the world. Thank you so much for saying

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hello to us, and livelong and prosper to you, Petra.

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Also saying hello this week to Hank debru Veje from

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Nijmikjen in the Netherlands, and I'm positive that I have

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massacred the name of that town, because you know, when

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you're an American, you just have a hard time names.

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It's not for lack of trying. I actually went online

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and listened to it and I still can't quite get it.

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But thank you so much, Hank, for saying hello to

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us from that amazing country land of canals, architecture float.

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Actually you hold the record in terms of number of

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floating buildings in a single country. I happen to that

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being an architect. So Hank de Bravridge, thank you so

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much for saying hello to us. And we say hello

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right back to you, and live long and prosper to you.

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And last but not least, I would like to say

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hello this week and welcome Christopher Douglas Warrington, originally born

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in Manchester, then lived in Stockport in England, United Kingdom,

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but now living in the Sierra sur de Jen of

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Andalusia in Spain. And we're getting a English flag, we're

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getting a Union jack, and we're getting a Spanish flag,

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all from you. Christopher. Thank you so much for saying

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hello to us and for repping all of the places

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from which you hail. We really appreciate your support. Now

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I'm going to spin this globe right over to Charles. Charles,

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who would you like to say hello to?

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Oh?

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Thank you Eric.

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Let's start off with writing contributor Shane wald Smith from Nashville, Tennessee.

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Sixty year sixty eight years so old and have been

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trekky since the beginning. Oh great to hear Shane Warren. Welcomer,

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Ron Moore from Ohio, oh up North, Welcome Patricia Weaver

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from Ontario, Canada. Welcome Patricia, and welcome Mary Elle Siwah

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from Florida. And since I think David's having issues, I'll

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keep going. Welcome Ben, I'm here, Okay, try it, David.

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Sorry, yeah, I'm just have a little bit of difficulty

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with the camera. That's all.

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I have.

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The microphone still going, but hi. Uh yeah, so let's

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give it one. Welcome to Ben Jackal from Los Angeles,

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where Skytrak was born.

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A right.

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Next on my listen is v Ellie from Williamsburg, Virginia.

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Thanks give another one. Welcome to Joey day Dange, Florida.

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From Florida.

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The XINDI probe will take out my home one day.

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Well hopefully that doesn't take place. But yeah, so next

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last time my list is Kat Gardner from Springfield, Marjouri, Paul,

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who's on your list.

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Thanks David, appreciate it, my friend. Well, we'll always like

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to honor and say hello to our international audience and

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like to remind everybody that Star Trek's a global phenomenon

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and that we have people all across the planet, as

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Eric pointed out earlier, that are big fans and fellow enthusiasts,

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so it's really neat to be able to share that

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with people. First of all, I'd like to say to

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Uriel Robert hell Delico in the wonderful country of Belgium,

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that's definitely pretty high up there on my list of

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places that I would enjoy visiting. Really really splendid, absolutely

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great Belgium. Sound amazing, Rainier w Biermann from the Sea

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of Moors in Germany with a triple dose of the

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Vulcan live along and prosper salute and the German flag

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as well, smoothing a little bit cross longitudes to India

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to a splendid New Delhi where top fan Rojit Segal

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is chiming in this week and letting us know that

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Rajit is also a big Star Trek enthusiast and it's

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great to know that you're out there keeping track of

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our Facebook group and our podcast. Absolutely fantastic and another

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top fan. Top fans just seem to be everywhere this

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week from the wonderful UK boy. I can tell you

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stories about UK this week. It curl your hair. But

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I remain a big fan of all things man. I

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feel like there's some stories out there.

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I want to hear that you.

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Don't stay good a beer? Yeah, I'm away, yeah, but yeah,

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it's it's a long one. It's a long one. Hopefully

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it'll end up good, but we'll see. It's to be continued.

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But I am saying hello to the great Burg of

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Norwich today. And Graham Taylor is a top fan from Norwich.

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Union Jack proudly unfurled, letting us know that even in

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those eastern coastal, sometimes frigid climbs of Norwich, there is

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still kindled enthusiasm for Star Trek and the Final Frontier.

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So great to know you're out there, Graham and all

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of our top fans, listeners and social media followers. You're

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part of what makes us exciting. Is we love hearing

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from you every week, Love knowing where you're from. Love

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knowing what you like, what you're into, what you've discovered,

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and what you're looking forward to of the things that

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are coming. And a lot of us got a real

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interesting glimpse of some upcoming Stranger Worlds this week. We'll

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all be talking about it soon. So pretty cool stuff.

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Great to hear from everyone. And let's go over and

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see who Uncle Jim is going to say, howdy do today?

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Well, I thank you so much, Paul. I would like

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to say coplat and welcome the Rock. Sanne Waters is

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listening to us from Washington State. Thank you for being

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a fan. I also want to say hello and thank

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you to David Boucher who's listening to us right now

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in Minnesota, and James Webb from Indiana. And I want

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to send out a live long and prosper and a

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thank you to Craig Carrol who's listening to us in

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the great state of Oklahoma. And that wraps up our

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fan shout outs. And David is still having some technical difficulties. David,

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Are you there? Okay?

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David restarted?

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Okay, No, David, okay.

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So in that case, we're going to go into our

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Star Trek polls which means we have to check in

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Know me like no win what you thought about the show?

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Then we try.

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Just share your opinions with all of our minions out

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there because they listen worldwide. So tell us just what

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you think. Get together we will alter Canara and robulin An.

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Al right, guys, you visit our Facebook page. I always

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have some interesting poll questions that I throw up there.

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Some of them are really deep and ethical, some of

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them are just fun and flighty, so you never know

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what you're gonna get. So, Eric, what kind of poll

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questions do I have? Well, actually, let me rephrase that

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they dropped a brand new, strange New World's teaser try

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on us and that became one of my pole questions,

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so that we're going to talk about that next. But first,

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what was our original poll question? Eric?

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between responses, I think, which always makes for an interesting discussion.

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In the TNG episode I Borg Captain pccard had the

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opportunity to wipe out the Borg and save countless lives,

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but he decided not to. Do you agree with his decision?

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And fifty six percent of our responders fifty six, slightly

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more than fifty said yeah, they agree with Picard's decision

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to not wipe out the BORG, and forty four percent

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of our responders said nah, he should have pulled the

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trigger and done the deed. So, uh, fifty six to

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forty four, that's that's pretty good split. Be interested to

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hear what you guys have to say about that.

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Well, Paul, you want to get us started with our

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I have been yeah, I've been following Jim's pole questions

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as we all have for for you know, quite a while.

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So start doing this, and I think this is one

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of the most interesting ones because sometimes you know, the

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questions will be very like, you know, they're not what

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I would call controversial, right, Sometimes they're you know, like

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you know, William Riker said water is wet? Do you

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agree with his decision?

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I'm like, I don't know.

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This one, though, I thought was great because it is

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a real conundrum. It really is. It is extremely difficult

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to know where to land on this, right because you know,

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you can really see both sides, and it's challenging and

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it's it's it is difficult to it's like there it

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almost feels like there should be like a third choice

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in this one, just because the borg have like at

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this point, they have wiped out countless civilizations, you know,

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committed you know, total destruction, robbed. They'd always kill everybody,

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but they take away everyone's autonomy, right and absorb them

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into this larger, you know, collective, which in some ways

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is like a living death as opposed to you know,

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a permanent harp carrying death. Right. So I mean it's

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you know, really they've done horrible things, and so the

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chance to wipe them out, you know, really you can

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see where the damage they've done to civilizations across the

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galaxy is just you know, immense. But we're talking about

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genocide here, right, We're talked about basically you know, it's

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like are you are you willing to become the enemy

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that you seek to get rid of? In order to

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do that, I mean, you basically have to, you know.

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the old conundrum of like, if you could go back

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in time and kill Hitler, would you right? You know?

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right up to him and take care of business, and

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it would make your head spit how fast I would

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do it. But but but would you drop a bun

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would you drop a nuclear bomb in the middle of

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the country, you know, to UH to do that and

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commit you know, horrible, horrible murders. I can only really

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think of one country that has done that. But yeah,

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it's it's awful because none of I think my point

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is long winded as it may be. Every solution has

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a bad outcome, right, I mean, there's nothing occurs with

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either choice that that is worth celebrating because grief has

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been visited on everybody in those situations. So it's like it's,

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you know, sorry, Captain Kirk, But I think this might

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be one of those no win situations that we we

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talk about with the Kobyashi Buru. It's just it's an

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ethical dilemma. I don't know that you can untie that

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knot so I don't know that I really uh I

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I tend to probably go with UH with his decision

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and agree, blow your shields and slow to your ships.

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You will your biological and theological distinctiveness to our own.

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And this is why people don't like them, because they're

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interrupting you all the time. Right, you're doing your thing,

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and then all of a sudden, the borg just start talking.

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It's like, I'm you know, sorry, I am speaking, I

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am speaking, right, So yeah, I think I tended to

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lean more with this with his decision, because just you know,

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you might save a lot of people. But man, you

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never get that taste out of your mouth, right if

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you do something like that, right, I mean it's just like,

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are you willing to become Anton Caridean Cotos the Executioner

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to save half the galaxy? I don't know if I

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could live with it.

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Space nine, right, I mean he you know, he murdered

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somebody to get the romulus to get into the war

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to save how many millions of lives? But if you

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remember the episode, originally Picard was all gung ho for it, right,

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you guys remember he had Georady make up the virus.

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He was all set to do it, and then he

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became friends with Hugh, and then Hugh met with Gynan

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and Guynan brought Hugh to the card and got the

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car to change his mind. But he was pretty stubborn

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at first. So I think Paul is right. I think

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no matter what you do you have a problem here,

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Because as fans, we all know the outcome.

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We know the damage that.

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The Borg will end up causing. We know that the

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civilizations that are going to be wiped out, the millions

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and millions of people that are going to be destroyed.

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We know that.

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The car doesn't. So while he has to base his

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decision on is what he knows at that time, and

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that's the damage that the Borg have already done. He

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doesn't know what they're about to do. So yeah, I

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think this is one of those I think this is

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a Kobe aishumanrule. You're damned if you do, and you're

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damned if you don't. So, uh yeah, that's that's my choice.

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What about you, Eric, Knowledge is power, And at this

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point in the story, I think you're exactly right, Jim.

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It was Hugh's recaptured individuality and his friendship with Jordie

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that pushed Picard in the right direction. And you know,

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prior to this, we didn't We thought once somebody was assimilated,

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they were gone forever and they weren't even a real

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person anymore. And I think that we learned through this episode,

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and I think that was the point of the episode.

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That oh my gosh, there is still somebody in there,

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and then of course we get Hugh featured prominently in

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Picard years later, just a few years ago our time.

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So I absolutely agree with Picard's decision. I think you

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have to think very very hard about genocide if you're

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gonna if you're gonna commit it, maybe against an ant

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infestation or something, but even that has it's you know,

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could be considered problematic. So yeah, I think for me

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it's a little more clear. I think that he made

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the right decision. I think that I also have the

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benefit of hindsight knowing that eventually Jane Wade takes care

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of business and you know, basically takes care of the

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borg and they don't really come back in any in

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any way until we start to see Pacard, and even

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then that threat was much much smaller than the board

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was before. So I one hundred percent agree with with

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Picard's decision on this one.

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Well, Charles, that drops the ball in your court.

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Well, I think I'm going to modify a little bit

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what Eric said. We have had what we did at

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that point, have one borg return back to gaining their individuality.

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That was the cutest. So when we finally got a

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borg that wanted to regain his in the visuality and humanity.

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You sit there and sacrifice that life to do you

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sit there and sacrifice one for the many. Sometimes you

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don't want to sacrifice the many because of the one. So, yes,

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this is a this is a Kobayashi maru. But I

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think he did make the right choice and allowing Hugh

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to have his individuality and try to return as himself.

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All right, so where does that put us with the minions?

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Yeah, sort of.

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Yeah, I mean the minions are fifty more or less.

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Ye, the minions are pretty much under.

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I think our size is too small to really.

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Say, all right, well that's our borg conundrum. Now we

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have a more I really wish that Charle that David

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could get in here with us. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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give him a second to see if he can connect

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with the new link, because he put a lot of

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work into creating the slideshow for the strange new world

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that we're about to talk about. So I'm gonna give

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him a second to see if it works. Can you

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if you can hear me, David, let me know. And

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Charles just sent him the link. So while we're waiting

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for that.

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While we're waiting, Eric, you want to tell us what's

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going on with Strange New Worlds. I do have a

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little bit of a fan feedback from the Facebook page.

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Well, I are you talking about maybe doing our second

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poll instead the Romulin pole first?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, So we had a good Romulin poll here, guys.

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It's of these choices, which Romulin character is your favorite?

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So we got tomoloch Nero, Cela el Noor de Natra,

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both Romulin commanders, the male and the female one, which

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are your favorite Romulins? And it's to me no surprise

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that Cela came out on top on this one. So

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Cela being Tasha's daughter, we see her in Unification and Redemption.

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She gets twenty three percent of the votes this week,

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so that is pretty good. But right on her heels,

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of course, is Mark Leonard's Romulin commander from Balance of Terror,

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and I don't think anybody's gonna argue against that. What

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a great performance, what a great episode, what a great

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introduction to Romulins in general. So he's right up there,

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coming about six percentages behind that. We have el Noor

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from Star Trek Picard with sixteen percent of the votes.

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Directly behind him, we have the Romulin Commander from The

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Enterprise Incident, the female Romulin commander, with thirteen percent of

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the votes. I was a little surprised that Denatra ends

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up fifth in this poll. Personally, she only got ten

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percent of the votes. I am guessing that is because

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that is not people's favorite movie, but that's just that's

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just me spitballing here. And tied with her, we have

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Tomolok from TNG, who I think was an excellent Romulin character,

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with also ten percent of the votes, and Nero from

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Star Trek two thousand and nine did garner six percent

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of the votes of the responders to this poll. So,

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you know, no surprise to me that Sela is on

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the top of this list and that the Romulin Commander

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is right up there. Wouldn't have been surprised if he

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was number one. Eleanor did a little better than I

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thought he would, honestly, and Denatra did a little worse

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than I thought she would. So of these ones, you know,

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it's really hard for me to say who is my favorite.

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I think that I have a tendency to bring beta

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canon stuff into it, and I'll say that Celia has

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had some very excellent comic book appearances over the last

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five years with IDW Comics a whole storyline that involved

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her that was just outstanding. I thought, so she's my choice,

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but not just for the on screen works that she did,

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also for the beta canon stuff that she did. So

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she's my personal favorite. What do you guys think?

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Well, for me, my favorite Romblin I would go with

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el Nore from Picard. I thought it was great that

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we actually got to see a Romulan in more than

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one episode, and el Nore was pretty much featured in

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all of season one, all of season two, and he

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kind of got brushed off in season three. But I

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enjoyed seeing seeing Elle myself. So el Nor would be

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my top choice. And I won't get into all the

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rest of them because it just takes too much time.

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But for me, the only change I would make is

471
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.680
I would bump el Nore up to number one. How

472
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.240
about you, Charles, who is your favorite?

473
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.240
I'm gonna say Eleanor might have been first, and then

474
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:24.039
Cela might have been second. Stila didn't have an interesting

475
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:29.200
story with Tashi r, which made her a bit unique,

476
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:34.960
but Eleanor was our first real good Romulant we got,

477
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.920
we really able to get along with, we felt for.

478
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:42.480
Too.

479
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:48.920
Yeah, all right, what about what about you, Paul, who

480
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.839
is your favorite rhymeling character? Well?

481
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.799
I tend to lean old school, right, and uh, it's

482
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.559
just you know, I watched so much syndicated original series

483
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.119
growing up up. It is just baked in my head, right,

484
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.920
I mean, these are all really good choices. Tolok should

485
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.519
be much higher up there than he is, I think,

486
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.000
I mean, he should probably be number four. I would

487
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:15.960
probably say, well, actually, now for me, number one should

488
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.279
be absolutely Mark Leonard as the original Romulin commander. That

489
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:25.400
is a spectacular performance, right, and as originally mean I

490
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.839
think they've gradually veered away from this a lot in

491
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.759
subsequent iterations, from showing the Romulins struct different parts of

492
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:35.559
the franchise. But what's great about when they first introduced

493
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.039
the Romulins right in this episode, never seen him before?

494
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:43.880
They were the model was the Roman Empire, right, absolutely?

495
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.519
I mean everything Romulus Remus, right, I mean the Imperial Rome.

496
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.240
Was that their whole inspirational structure there, and there's a

497
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.720
praetorian on you know, the Romulin ship and just the

498
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.359
way Mark Leonard played that and brought a sense of

499
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:04.440
history to and was he just did not portray the

500
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.839
Romulan as a black and white bad guy. Was there's

501
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.319
so many shades of gray, right, it was just like

502
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.359
he was a guy who had morals, ethical compass. He

503
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:17.319
believed in what he was doing. He also believed that

504
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.799
he had served an organization that had become corrupt and

505
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.759
that was heading in a bad direction, and all he

506
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.720
really wanted to do was get his men home, all right,

507
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:30.359
And so it's a very human performance. He is able

508
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:37.799
to actually see his opponent as someone who is worth

509
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.759
having admiration for and not worry about getting in trouble

510
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.440
saying it. You know, admittedly he's on his deathbed when

511
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.079
he says it, but still it's a cool moment because

512
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.160
it's like he's in a different reality. I could have

513
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.839
called you friend, right, we have more in common than

514
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.920
we do things that you know, separate us. So it's

515
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.680
an amazing human performance, right. I just think he did

516
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:03.640
a remarkable remark job. Big fan of that performance for me.

517
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:08.160
Number two would be the Enterprise incident counterpoint, right, the

518
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.960
female Rotmeli commander. She's great, that's an amazing character, really

519
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.880
really cool. So those would be my tops for sure.

520
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:21.160
All Right, Well, guys, David is still having trouble connecting,

521
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.559
which is bad because he did so much work for us,

522
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:30.119
which we're not going to be able to enjoy. So Eric,

523
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.839
what's our final question of the evening.

524
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.640
Well, we asked our fans about the new Strange New

525
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:43.039
World season three teaser trailer, which I believe we are

526
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:46.119
going to chat about a little bit tonight, and our

527
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:50.400
fan Dan Sexton said, nothing about this trailer got me

528
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.079
excited to see the new season and gives us a

529
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.119
little sad face. Sorry it didn't hit for you, David

530
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.319
or Dan, excuse me. Dennis Kitmore said, looks like fun,

531
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.680
but I really wish it would come sooner. Also, did

532
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:09.079
I see Patton Oswald as a Vulcan? And I'm gonna

533
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:13.279
say yes, you did, Dennis, You very much did. So

534
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.119
that is something that we could definitely talk about too, Thanks, Dennis.

535
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.240
Dan Sturby said, this Spock and Nurse Chapel romance is

536
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:26.240
gotten out of hand. It completely contradicts the original series. Hmmm.

537
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.440
He had no interest in her, even she was, even

538
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.720
though she was into him, and that was as far

539
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.640
as it went. They never hooked up. Well, you may

540
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:42.079
be forgetting Dan about a certain animated series episode that

541
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.519
we may talk about when we talk about Harry Mud today.

542
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.240
Dan Sturby, thank you for your comments. Christopher Swindles, one

543
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.200
of our rising contributors, said, I actually love Paul Wesley's

544
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.160
take on Captain Kirk, But why does he have to

545
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.480
keep showing up on Strange New Worlds? Not his enterprise,

546
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.720
not his story? All right, Christopher, Well we'll see how

547
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.880
much of him we get this season. Keith Thompson said,

548
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.880
people keep trying to push the nineteen sixty sensibilities of

549
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:12.519
the original series into a show being produced nearly sixty

550
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:16.559
years later. Just relax and let Strange New Worlds be

551
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:23.279
its own thing, Thanks Keith. Keith C. Smith said, did

552
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.279
I see a three armed mister Eric's in there somewhere?

553
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.200
Jim gives us the double thumbs up because it's true.

554
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.240
Thanks Keith for noticing that, and we may chat about

555
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.640
that in a little bit here too. Phil Stanfield, one

556
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.720
of our top contributors, said, for me, for me, the

557
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.079
dress up stuff and reality twisting I can do without

558
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.319
the gorn et cetera looks really good. Well, Phil, I

559
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.799
think that that trailer showed us, if nothing else, that

560
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:56.079
there's going to be a lot of variety in this season.

561
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:58.279
So thanks for your comments and I hope you love

562
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:03.759
those gorn. Harley Mento said this looks like apos and

563
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.720
I don't think he means a point of sale. Loved

564
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:11.559
season one, liked season two, but this looks slap happy

565
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:15.840
comedy bullshit. Why can't they do serious sci fi on

566
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:16.800
older premise?

567
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:17.239
Shows?

568
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.760
Illogical, boring, silly, no explanations, and now this looks horrid.

569
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.119
Thanks for letting us know how you feel, Charley Perry

570
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.719
Wolf said, being me up. Mike Cook said love it.

571
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:36.920
Michael Fillyan, a rising contributor, said, I freaking screamed and

572
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.519
I can only assume that was in a good way. Michael.

573
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.760
So thanks to all our fans who rendered their opinions

574
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.000
on this. I didn't do any math on this, but

575
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.679
it sounds really balanced to me. It sounds like about

576
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.559
half the people are totally into it, and about half

577
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.840
the people are saying whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow

578
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:58.519
the drain down. This doesn't look like the type of

579
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.440
star dreg I'm interested in, so uh so, yeah, there

580
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.119
you have it, New strange, New World season three teaser.

581
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.079
Oh h yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to get I'm

582
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.880
trying to get David into the I just sent David

583
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.480
a brand new link and hopefully that will work for him.

584
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:28.119
That's why so nice. Yeah, we're live and David worked

585
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.400
really hard on this. I would like to see if

586
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.239
we can get him in here at any rate. A

587
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:39.480
strange New worlds Okay, So you know, I wasn't excited

588
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.320
when I saw this trailer. I was a little bit

589
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.599
disappointed in what I saw. We've been waiting two years

590
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.320
and this is what they give us.

591
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:51.239
Say more?

592
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.320
What what say more about what you were hoping to see,

593
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:57.239
Jim and what you didn't care for? What you did see?

594
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.960
Well, what I what I didn't see is I didn't

595
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.599
see any Star Trek adventures. I saw a Holideck adventure.

596
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:15.079
I saw a murder mystery deal. I saw a Captain

597
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.960
Proton type of deal. I saw Pellia rewiring the ship

598
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:27.199
for analog. I did see Klingons, Yeah, I did see

599
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:31.360
Klingons and a Klingon with a whip that got me enthused.

600
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.800
And I think I saw a Gorn flash by as well.

601
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.000
I think I saw I don't know if it was

602
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:42.280
Lieutenant Erics or not. But I did see an audogian

603
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:47.079
show up. I did see Kirk and Scottie say we

604
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.519
make a great team. That was awesome, But with only

605
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.840
ten episodes, it seems to me like they're wasting time

606
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:00.760
on trivial fluff. And when you only have ten episodes

607
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.679
and you put out a trailer like this one, when

608
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.719
I don't know, I I wasn't really really thrilled. Just

609
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:13.159
my opinion, other than the Klangons and stuff. I'll have

610
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.440
to wait and see what they do with it, but

611
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:17.239
that was my take on it.

612
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.159
Silence the room, are are we rendering opinions right now?

613
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.159
I shared mine and no one said anything.

614
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.000
I was like, okay, no, no, no, Well let's start

615
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.719
out by saying, Jim, You're wrong. No, I'm just kidding this,

616
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:39.320
I'm wrong, you know. I mean, this is kind of

617
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.360
the same reaction that I think we saw when we

618
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:45.760
saw the original trailer for Subspace Rhapsody, which nobody was

619
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.960
into and everybody thought it was going to be terrible,

620
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:51.400
and then generally speaking, I think the public kind of

621
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.639
took to it. I think that there were a lot

622
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:55.840
of people who still didn't dig it because they don't

623
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:03.159
dig on musicals in general. That the ridiculousness that we've

624
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:05.840
kind of seen so far also don't forget if we

625
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:10.119
if we kind of rewind, includes the crew being turned

626
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:15.559
into vulcans temporarily, which I actually strangely had much more

627
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.199
of a problem with than some of this like nineteen

628
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:22.800
sixties retro stuff, which I think looks fun and interesting. So,

629
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.480
you know, here, for me, here's the deal. We've got

630
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.480
X number of episodes of the original series. We've got

631
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.559
X number of episodes of the Next Generation, which were

632
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:40.440
essentially kind of like the second generation or the next

633
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.360
generation I guess, of the original series, right, So we've

634
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:48.679
seen a lot of serious Star Trek stories being told.

635
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.079
I think Strange New Worlds personally is the exact right

636
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.480
platform to be taken these type of risks. They did

637
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.960
it with Subspace Rhapsody, and for me, it hit, and

638
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.000
it hit big time, and they were able to kind

639
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.719
of give it that pseudo scientific basis that you know,

640
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.480
everybody's like, how can they possibly do a musical? And

641
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:09.960
then they like came up with a way that they

642
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.320
could do it, and and I thought it worked. So,

643
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:16.920
you know, how can they do a retro thing here,

644
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.719
How can they have holodecks in the you know, original

645
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.719
series era like all this stuff. I mean, there's there's

646
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.639
precedent for things like this, there's you know people. One

647
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:29.280
of the things that I think Strange World is doing

648
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.360
that is totally awesome is they are constantly referencing the

649
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.119
animated series. And I think that there are a ton

650
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.960
of Star Trek fans that haven't seen the animated series

651
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.400
and so they don't consider that part of their like

652
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.760
Star Trek cannon. But you know, the animated series had

653
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.400
the rec room. They had a rec room that you

654
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.599
could go into where like suddenly it was winter inside, right,

655
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.800
So it wasn't like they didn't have holodex style technology.

656
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.360
Granted it didn't have the yellow grid thing going on

657
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:56.639
that TNG had, which it seems that they're kind of

658
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.320
ret connie into Strange New Worlds right now, but but

659
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:03.880
this stuff exists. So I actually watched the trailer like

660
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.760
four or five times. I was totally into it. It

661
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.519
went by a little quick for me, so I had

662
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.119
to like watch other people's videos on it to kind

663
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.280
of dissect everything and pause every once in a while

664
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.800
to kind of dissect things. I kind of. If I

665
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.039
had a complaint, it would be that I wish the

666
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.519
trailer was like two minutes long instead of a minute long.

667
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.960
But generally speaking, it hit. It hit pretty well for me,

668
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:26.960
and I'm I'm excited about the next season.

669
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:29.199
It's my thought.

670
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:31.519
There you have it, Paul, you want to jump in

671
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:32.800
next Yeah, I love.

672
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:35.679
To love to excuse me, I thought it was. I

673
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:37.719
was very surprised by it, because there was this the

674
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:41.079
day before, right, the Star Wars Universe had like kicked

675
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:44.000
out their surprise trailer for like their new animated show

676
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.480
right from May, and it was they got a lot

677
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.599
of thunder from that, and it was just great to

678
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.000
see the very next day income Star Trek. Right, It's like,

679
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:53.559
well we got some stuff for you too, right. So

680
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:55.800
it was these two previews right on top of each other,

681
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.280
which was pretty cool. I love both universes, but I

682
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.440
thought this was a good trailer. Jim's like, I didn't

683
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.000
see any Star Trek Adventures, right, and I think you're

684
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.880
going to get Star Trek Adventures. I think this is

685
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.400
just a taste, right. Like Eric said, this is pretty short,

686
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:14.639
pretty quick, and it was cut quickly, right, moved just

687
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.159
a little glimpse of something you'd see just enough for

688
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.840
something to peak your interest, like is that an engagement

689
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.760
ring on Christine Chappel's finger? And then they cut right,

690
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.159
I mean just really quickly. Who is that?

691
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:26.760
Is that?

692
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.760
The squire of got those and they were just cut right,

693
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.639
really really quickly. So you don't know, right, But I

694
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.639
think it was designed very shrewdly to make you ask

695
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.480
a lot of is that questions? Right, to kind of

696
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:41.880
peak your interest and make you want to know more.

697
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:43.840
And I think a lot of stuff really telegraphing for

698
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:50.079
you know, invested fans, right. I think that tone is

699
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.039
really interesting thing in the fandom, right. I think Eric

700
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:56.440
was talking about that when you were talking about some

701
00:41:56.559 --> 00:42:00.599
Space rhapsody, right, And there's like your initial preconception and wow.

702
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:03.559
I think I feel that we can all fess up

703
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:05.840
to this right as science fiction fans, because you see

704
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.440
it regardless of what sci fi show you you like.

705
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:13.119
But as evidenced in the comments from our fans that

706
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:18.159
Eric just read, right, man, we like to wear our goggles. Really.

707
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.639
There's David, Hey, David, I got an echo on you,

708
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:29.400
but it's great to hear you. This is I think

709
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.360
it's what We had the same echo when we had

710
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.519
legendary director Nicholas Meyer on here. Remember that echo? Anyone

711
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.519
else in that echo? Or am I just talking to myself.

712
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:39.960
Now?

713
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:40.880
Eric's muted?

714
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.519
Why is it not echoing for me? Oh, it's because

715
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:48.079
I muted, David, Can you mute your thing just to

716
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.280
see if it gets rid of our echo? Right now?

717
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:57.480
To jaw to jaw to hello, Hello, Hello. I don't know.

718
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:58.480
It's still mini there.

719
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.000
It's not too bad. Tracting makes it sound like grown

720
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:07.599
up sound stage or something, so so ay heow, captain, captain, captain. Yeah,

721
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.840
I thought it was just you know, tone is weird, right,

722
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.440
And a lot of our fans are like, oh, this

723
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.719
is different than the Macaronium used to give me, and

724
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:20.760
I don't like bad, right. We get a lot of that, right,

725
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.760
jumping up and down. You know, I'm pretty sure I'm

726
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:29.519
the oldest person on this podcast by a good job, right,

727
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:31.719
But I can still kick any of your asses at

728
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.760
any given day. It's absolutely all right. So let's just

729
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.599
not get carried away here. I mean, I try not

730
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:40.760
think it stuck in the thing. I mean, I love

731
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:43.800
you when I do my favorite performances. Now you're gonna

732
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.400
see it's just so old school original series. But I'm

733
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.280
not like married to it that I'm not willing to

734
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.800
try the things right. It's like Discovery, right, tone threw

735
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:57.960
a lot of people off, right because it is so emotional, right,

736
00:43:58.039 --> 00:43:59.960
and there's a lot of heartfelt there's a lot of

737
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:03.559
crying and sobbing and Discovery in particular seasons right, that

738
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.199
really threw people off. Oh that is a beautiful side, David,

739
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.320
thank you. Oh, great to have you back, sir, great

740
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.840
to have you back. Persistence, gentlemen, persistence clows off. But

741
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:15.800
you know, a lot of people don't like Discovery, and

742
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.239
I think, you know, the tone with Strange New Worlds

743
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.280
is a little old school, right. But I think if

744
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.920
there's one word I could pick to describe what they

745
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.440
have generally, I think succeeded in doing all those different

746
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.280
previous seasons and what I got from this season right

747
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.559
is fun. I think they really are striving to have

748
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.079
a sense of fun. That it's a little giddy and goofy.

749
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.239
It's super adventurous too. I mean they lean into like

750
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:49.039
horror movie stuff and hard exciting adventures. People get killed tragically,

751
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.239
all right. Cling on episode from last season right with

752
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.199
my Benga and stuff. Pretty hardcore drama there, man. I mean,

753
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.519
so there's a lot of Yeah, you've got a cake

754
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:07.840
sliced up into ten pieces, but every slice is a

755
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.400
little different tasting, right, And so you get a lot

756
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.960
of variety with the show. And I enjoy the fact

757
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.320
that they're tweaking cannon, right. You know, they're willing to

758
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:22.039
show me a trailer that has Christine Chappell waking up

759
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.360
in the morning in bed next to Mistresspock. That is

760
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:30.079
salacious and intriguing and a little gutsy. And I don't

761
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.840
know if that that image right there on the screen. God,

762
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:34.679
it's just great to have these images back. So good

763
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.800
to have David solve this problem. I'm wondering if that's

764
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:38.639
Trelaine man.

765
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.000
And you know, I'm so excited to havery Starby on

766
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.639
this show. He's just so good.

767
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.400
He's hilarious. He's hilarious. And I was thinking about Trelaine.

768
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.599
I think that was the answer to like, what do

769
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:55.079
you do with that ethical question about the you know,

770
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.519
Picard's choice about the borg? Right, you wait till you

771
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.559
get cue right, and then you say, cute, I want

772
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:03.360
you to take all the borg in the universe, and

773
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.119
I want you to move them out into the farthest

774
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:08.440
regions of space where they can't threaten anyone else, like

775
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.800
millions of millions of light years away. I mean, that's

776
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:13.840
the only answer that would solve it. So and there

777
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.800
we go. There is a fan fave right there. Good

778
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:18.880
to see him, pat Oswald.

779
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.960
Really great guy holders holding red roses for a vulcan.

780
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.119
Very strange that.

781
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:28.679
I hit up Jim, I go, is I going to

782
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.519
be sidebocked? I don't know, so I'm super curious. But

783
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.039
it looks like everyone's having a lot of fun this season.

784
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.280
You know, I think it's better to kind of lean

785
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.119
into that a bit more in the name of audience

786
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.719
engagement than to be so serious and puffed up that

787
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.920
you sort of, you know, detach and bore the hell

788
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:48.599
out of everyone and end up just sort of robotically,

789
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.320
you know, Thank you, Eric, that was the perfect prompt

790
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.760
you sort of just end up. You know, this is

791
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.519
a fun show. If you're you know, a teenager or

792
00:46:57.639 --> 00:46:59.360
a little bit older, dude, I think you can have

793
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.360
a lot of fun with this. So so I was

794
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:03.800
way more jazzed from this trailer than I was from

795
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:05.719
the one we saw like last August. I want to

796
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:06.360
say it was right.

797
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:08.639
I mean, also, Paul, this is a great counterpoint to

798
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:11.000
like all the sci fi that said, there's so much serious,

799
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.840
like world ending sci fi. Remember even with Discovery, which

800
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.760
I love Discovery, but every single season was like something

801
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.519
cataclysmic is going to destroy all of life everywhere, and

802
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:23.599
that happened every single season.

803
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.000
Oh wait a minute, Yeah, the bowels of the universe

804
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.199
are about to rip open, and we're you know, and

805
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.079
but here's We're getting a lot of cool stuff and

806
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.119
I'm getting Discovery era vibe from the production.

807
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:35.360
Design on that cling on.

808
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.719
Yeah, I'm very intriguing. So, I mean then when I

809
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:42.760
walked away from this, there's a little goofy in places

810
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.760
with Carol Caine and the telephones and and and some

811
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.719
of that stuff and the Captain Proton stuff. Yeah, that's

812
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.119
a little goofy, right, But you know, I think they'll

813
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.800
probably I mean, but again, we were all like, I'm

814
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:58.280
very not liking this. When we first got a glimpse

815
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:03.199
of of Subspace Rhapsody, right, We're like, are you are

816
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.639
they kidding? I mean, wow, everyone was just so opposed

817
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.639
to that, right, and that I think that episode is

818
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.440
a masterpiece. And I don't use that word lightly. I

819
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.719
think it was just absolutely amazing, really pulled it off.

820
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:18.599
So a lot of this is just maybe context. Right,

821
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:20.840
We're looking around now and we're why is she crying

822
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:23.840
her telephone? You know, Carol Kane? And but what will

823
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:25.920
be the context of how that's written into the show.

824
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.440
What's the reasoning behind it? Right? And we have yet

825
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:34.559
to know. But I'm going in super intrigued, very much

826
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.840
open minded. The world is terrifying me these days. I

827
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:43.559
am really very concerned about some of the things they

828
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.159
see happening in society. Knowing I can get an hour's

829
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:51.760
worth of fun for ten weeks, man, that's I'm sign

830
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:53.480
me up. I'm really ready for that.

831
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:57.360
It's like peaceful dude, yeah and hopeful.

832
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.800
Right, I mean, I'm just just I love this cast.

833
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.000
This is weird. A lot of our focus tonight is

834
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:06.119
about acting tonight and the craft of the actor and performances, right,

835
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:10.159
And this is a great cast, you know, really wonderful actors.

836
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.360
I look forward to spending more time with them.

837
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.199
Well, if you guys remember you hated section thirty one

838
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:19.440
based on the trailer you saw the trailer and none

839
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:21.519
of you guys, you already made up your mind to

840
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.280
hate it before we saw it. What's the difference between

841
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:25.800
that trailer and what we just saw.

842
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:28.840
Well, Section thirty one ended up being worse than the

843
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:30.800
trailer from my point, Yeah it was.

844
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.239
It was domination is Yeah, but you you already didn't

845
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.159
like it because you didn't like the trailer.

846
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:39.840
Well, it wasn't. It was a question of what I

847
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:41.960
was giving is evidence in front of my eyes. Right,

848
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.039
it's just pure subjective appreciation of art. Every hits everyone differently,

849
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:49.400
right for what I like? I Section thirty one trailer

850
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:51.360
looked really bad, and I was like, that doesn't look

851
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.119
good to me. And and you know this, you know

852
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:55.800
what came out of the kitchen and got put down

853
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:58.760
as my entree was kind of what I feared, right,

854
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.239
So I didn't care for it. This doesn't look as

855
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.280
negative to me. This looks way more appetizing. I'm like, oh,

856
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.239
this is great, what a lovely amuse bousch. I'm ready

857
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.440
for the entree. This looks like fun. So there's just different,

858
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.920
different content and we're perceiving it differently. Man, Just because

859
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.639
you didn't care for a Jim doesn't mean that you

860
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:18.880
are wrong in any way. You know, you just have

861
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:20.880
a different point of view, and it could be what

862
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.079
did you have for breakfast that morning?

863
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.320
I happen to love Star Trek five.

864
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.719
Yeah, and that's good. I think that's great. I'm willing

865
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.360
to bet you, though, when we get back here, I

866
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.119
don't know exactly. We don't really know when this comes yet.

867
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.280
We just know summer, right, But I'm a little bet

868
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.440
brother that when you know, whatever it is, late July

869
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.000
early August rolls around and we've seen the bulk of

870
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:42.199
these episodes, I'm betting you're going to be sitting here

871
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.079
going wow. I dug that, now that I've seen it,

872
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:46.719
I think you're going to have a little change of

873
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:48.639
perspective and that probably some of these will end up

874
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:50.920
delighting you because you know, you're a huge Star Trek

875
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:52.559
fan and this looks like it was really made for

876
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.480
Star Trek fans. So let's just see what happens, you know,

877
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.519
it'd be interesting to see our opinions evolve, right.

878
00:50:58.960 --> 00:50:59.840
I like what I saw.

879
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:01.840
I like what I saw some of it. I'm a

880
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.639
little you know, cutesy stuff, but you know, I really

881
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:06.800
need something fun to get behind right.

882
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.119
Now, and I think, and there there's the adosion that

883
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:13.440
definitely looks like an adosi to me, whether or not

884
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.360
as Lieutenant Eric's don't know, but three arms orange a doosi.

885
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:19.239
And that sign in the background's got a lot of

886
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.480
attention too, because it seems to say United Federation of

887
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:28.679
Planets scent centennial or centenary, but it's some kind of

888
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:32.000
reference to one hundred years of the United Federation of Planets,

889
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:32.880
which is interesting.

890
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:36.280
Twenty two sixty one then right, yeah, yeah, would be

891
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.199
said because there's.

892
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.920
Some kind of big celebrations heralding. So it just seems

893
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.360
as I look at this little trailer which is like

894
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.920
two minutes, right, and there's a lot going on seconds,

895
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:53.119
but it was cut very briskly, right and uh you know,

896
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:58.599
and when when uh uh when you know our pilots

897
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:04.039
like Rachel gross like yeah, I'm ready, So it's fun.

898
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.119
What do people think? Sorry, I can't.

899
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.480
Girl, you want to jump in?

900
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:10.960
Yep?

901
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:14.840
Well, I will admit it was a long day. I

902
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.559
heard teeps about the preview, didn't get through it at lunchtime,

903
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:22.199
and forgot about it during the day, so I haven't

904
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.440
seen it, but I'm gonna make some comments up what

905
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:31.159
people said. Okay, everybody was gonna hate Bohemian Rhapsody. No,

906
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:34.760
I was one. I love musicals. I was ready to

907
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:36.880
sit there and hear a musical. I wanted to hear

908
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:40.360
what they would do with a musical. I was looking

909
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.920
forward to it and was on my edge when it

910
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:50.320
hit and dancing around when it was over. Okay, we're

911
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:56.280
looking at it. Okay, we see we see chaplain Spock

912
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:59.840
in bed. We don't have any context to what that

913
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.039
see that shot was Was it a real shot? Was

914
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:10.119
it a dream? Was it's something that happened by mistake.

915
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.519
We don't know why it happened. Carol King is carrying

916
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:18.320
around the analog phone. Maybe maybe we're landing on a

917
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:24.760
planet that's equal to modern days or twentieth century Earth. Oh,

918
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:26.760
we got to use a phone because the only way

919
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:30.800
we can communicate with them, because our communicators won't won't

920
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:36.360
deal with their their equipment. We never know why we're

921
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:37.559
doing these things.

922
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:42.639
I'm one of the points like context is King is

923
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:43.239
what you're saying?

924
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:44.440
Yes exactly?

925
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:48.440
Or you know, maybe Chapel lost a bet.

926
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:55.079
Who knows as I.

927
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:58.760
That It's like it's like so many things are like

928
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.119
that like, oh it ends up being dream It's like yeah,

929
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.400
and that we don't think that way, right, So I

930
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:05.639
really appreciate you bringing that up, man, because that's a

931
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:09.039
really good point. Is we we're just looking through the keyhole, right,

932
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:11.760
we don't know the whole picture yet exactly.

933
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.679
Is that Corby was going to be on here too?

934
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.599
They said Roger Corby was going to show up, So.

935
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:24.599
Well we know because she's going with she's going off

936
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:29.599
to the universe or what university or whatever it was.

937
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:33.840
And we know he's supposed to be there, Hodwartz.

938
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:41.119
So it's all the thing is. But as I said,

939
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:45.639
this is all teasers. They're trying to tease you with stuff,

940
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:50.159
and it's getting some people upset because like, oh, well

941
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.880
I don't want that happening. It's like, you don't know

942
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.039
any context of how this is relating to the episode.

943
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:02.440
You may think, oh, why would she be caring a telephone? Well,

944
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.440
I don't know, but maybe we're down the planet that

945
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.840
needs analog telephones and we can get their communication or

946
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:13.239
right back up, I want to wait and see what

947
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:14.880
happened to the episode. First.

948
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:21.480
All right, guys, I'm going to try and get David

949
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:23.840
in here. I'm not going to make any promises because

950
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:28.800
Riverside Studio does not allow me to change any of

951
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:33.079
the audio settings except for muting microphones once we start

952
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:37.920
to record. So right now I have David completely completely

953
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:40.599
zeroed out, So I'm going to turn his mic on,

954
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:42.880
and if the echo is too bad, I'm going to

955
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:46.639
have to I'm gonna have to shut him back down again. So, uh, David,

956
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:47.119
you're on.

957
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.400
You can't hear David? Oh wait, go ahead?

958
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:56.599
Is it too requery?

959
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.239
There we go, Oh we can hear you go for it,

960
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:00.320
speak loud thought.

961
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:05.360
I'm really stoked for this. I can't wait to see

962
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:10.679
how they do it. I really enjoyed this preview. I said,

963
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.880
oh no in the chat a while ago today only

964
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:16.280
because of the way out in somewhere like I didn't

965
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.400
want to have to wait. But I'm actually wondering if

966
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.039
that guy is like a cue character.

967
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:27.559
But yeah, you David, have you are you familiar with

968
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:29.639
the original series at all? Have you seen the Squire

969
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:34.000
of Gothos and Trelaine. Yeah, so that's the conjecture right now.

970
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:37.119
And then there's some question as to whether Trellaine is

971
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.719
actually a que or not. That hasn't actually been resolved.

972
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.480
Mariner appears to be like, it's not a cue, but it's.

973
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:44.079
Kind of a cue.

974
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:47.159
So yeah, yeah, I just don't remember them ever snapping

975
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.360
their fingers in the original, but this one they're clearly

976
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.559
making them snap, so it makes it seem like they're

977
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:54.400
trying to connect them to be a queue.

978
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:55.519
So I don't know, make.

979
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.559
Sense, but yeah, and if I was that guy right there,

980
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.119
I don't know if you gonna be sidebock or not,

981
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:06.519
because he just doesn't seem to have the stature from

982
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.639
what we saw in the previous season where he was

983
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:12.920
kind of like a little bit taller and stuff, because

984
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.280
I thought that guy's pretty short, so maybe that could

985
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:18.679
be a thing. I don't know, but but yeah, I'm

986
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:23.119
really excited about this particular season and I can't wait

987
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:27.960
to see how they tie it with the original. But yeah,

988
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:29.760
it'd be kind of interesting to see. And of course

989
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.119
the whole telephone thing was kind of funny. And he's

990
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:34.960
holding a joystick. Oh, she's holding a joystick. I didn't

991
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:39.760
notice Savage for they're both holding joysticks. So yeah, it's

992
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:42.039
gotta be something that has to do with like something

993
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:43.800
going on with the engines, I would imagine, but I

994
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.320
don't know. Maybe it had something to do with this

995
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.920
picture right here. Maybe the systems are down, I don't know.

996
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.480
But other than that, Yeah, we got goings, we got

997
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.920
the three arms, lady. It's gonna be really fun. Stuff

998
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:05.000
can be a really fun uh ten episodes, ten new adventures?

999
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.920
So what's what happened? There's not going to be any

1000
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:12.280
two putters though, because they specifically said ten new adventures,

1001
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.239
which your ten episodes, So I guess that's the thing.

1002
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:21.320
Well, they better wrap Gorn situation from Yeah.

1003
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.639
But Jim, I'm what I'm hoping is that they don't

1004
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:27.039
wrap it up in like one episode or like a

1005
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:29.440
half of an episode. It feels like it deserves a

1006
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:32.639
little bit more time than that. I don't know, personally,

1007
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.239
it feels like they just need to like extend that

1008
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:36.199
just a little bit.

1009
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:39.079
Yeah.

1010
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:43.039
Absolutely, all right, guys, Well, now we're going to get

1011
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:47.440
into our great Performances section, which we're doing for Paul

1012
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:51.320
and uh ieve, and there's the Gorn. I believe that

1013
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:56.000
we have Paul starting first, right, David, I think so?

1014
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:59.199
All right, Paul, So the stage is yours taking out

1015
00:58:59.320 --> 00:58:59.880
fun fun.

1016
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.199
You know, we were sitting around talking, right, and we

1017
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:04.960
were kind of saying, and I think how this all evolved,

1018
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:08.119
audience is it was leading up to like award season,

1019
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.559
right with the Emmys and the Golden Globes and the Oscars,

1020
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.400
and we were saying, well, you know, we didn't have

1021
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:14.119
a lot of new content to talk about, and we said,

1022
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:15.440
what if we all just sort of talked about some

1023
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:18.400
of our favorite performances that have ever been on Star

1024
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:21.000
Trek and you know, let's focus on like, you know,

1025
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:25.920
core recurring main cast members. But who are the guest

1026
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:29.599
performances that you felt just really you know, blew your

1027
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:31.920
socks off that they came in there and they really

1028
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:35.440
just kind of redefined a little bit of their corner

1029
00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:38.519
of the Star Trek universe because their exhibition of the

1030
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:41.840
craft of acting was so strong, right, And so I

1031
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:43.320
just thought that would be fun. And that's kind of

1032
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:45.360
what how this all came together tonight for the idea

1033
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.920
for this particular show. So for me, like I said earlier,

1034
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.239
I just I grew up, you know, watching the original

1035
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:58.760
series so much and a character and that I just

1036
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:01.239
always just I just found them haunting and fascinating. Is

1037
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.280
Matt Decker, right, I mean great, great character. But that

1038
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:08.480
performance by the great William Windham, as you see here

1039
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.360
is oh my god, doomsday machine, right, one of the

1040
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:17.000
all time great episodes Norman's been rad second season. In

1041
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:18.719
the course of that, I mean, it's one of the

1042
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:22.920
first times we see, you know, somebody who's in starfleet

1043
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:28.360
higher Echelon's right, a commodore, right on board, and he

1044
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.800
means well, but he's an authority figure and he thinks

1045
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:34.599
he's always right, right, and he in the course of

1046
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:38.039
that episode, here's a guy who's lost his entire ship

1047
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:42.119
and crew, right, all killed. He feels guilt, he feels

1048
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.800
responsibility for it. Right, He's anguished over all the lives

1049
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.400
he lost on his watch. He is desperate because of

1050
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.079
the high stakes of this planet killer that nobody can

1051
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:55.119
figure out how to stop. That seems invulnerable, right, He's

1052
01:00:55.159 --> 01:01:02.280
full of rage, pathos. He's sobbing, he's crying, he's obsessed.

1053
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:05.400
And then at the end he makes like the ultimate

1054
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:09.480
act of bravery and sacrifices himself in an attempt to

1055
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:14.960
save others and and find redemption. It's an and he's amazing.

1056
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:18.239
He modeled a little bit of his performance on Bogart's

1057
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:21.280
Captain Keeg from the Kane Mutiny or with the what

1058
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:24.519
he was doing with the with the cassette tapes, right,

1059
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.039
was very similar to what you know, the quigue does

1060
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:31.719
in Kane. So it's a real tribute to classical you know,

1061
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.760
character building. But it's just he you see the whole

1062
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:38.559
wealth of human experience in Matt Decker in those in

1063
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.559
that whole episode, uh, his whole byplay with Spock. I mean,

1064
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:46.480
he basically gets into a kung fu fight with you know,

1065
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.440
a security guard so he can you know, steal a

1066
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:53.559
shuttle craft, right. I mean, he's you know, he's he's determined,

1067
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:58.519
he's obsessed, but he's always human, right, he thinks he's right.

1068
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:00.280
I just love the fact that he's got this five

1069
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:05.199
o'clock shadow on him because he's you know, when you know,

1070
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.800
Kirk and everyone is interviewing him and about what happened

1071
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:10.679
to your crew, and he's like and they're like, there

1072
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.760
is no third planet, and he just is just his reaction,

1073
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:16.039
you know, he says, don't you think I know that?

1074
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:19.519
I mean, it's just he's just he's unhinged. It's it's

1075
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.400
phenomenal because you don't you forget you're watching a guy acting.

1076
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.039
He just seems like he's lived through this and is

1077
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:29.719
so compelling, and it's just to me, it's just, you know,

1078
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:33.719
if I could only pick one actor that just really

1079
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:37.880
shows the range of what's possible for a character in

1080
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:39.639
Star Trek, I'd picked this guy. I just think it

1081
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:45.840
was legendary performance. So agree, gentlemen. Not I have more,

1082
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.159
but yeah, I just love this one of them. For me,

1083
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:50.840
it's one of the all time greatest episodes ever.

1084
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:53.679
No, totally, I totally agree with you, Paul, And I

1085
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:56.280
remember the first time I saw this episode, I was like, God,

1086
01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:59.320
that guy doesn't really look like a Starfleet officer. But

1087
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:01.320
then in the car text of the episode where he's

1088
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:04.719
lost his entire crew, like you said, you realize that

1089
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:08.039
all of the captains in Star Trek, regardless of their

1090
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:10.559
amazingness and how they kind of like always get people

1091
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:14.400
out of jams, they are real people and they really

1092
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.079
care about who they're dealing with. I think that's like

1093
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.880
one of the ways the Discovery really shine too, is

1094
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.360
like Michael Burnham actually caring about her crew and like

1095
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:26.599
showing emotion about it. Well, here we get Decker showing

1096
01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:29.760
emotion about his crew. Right, He's he's a little unhinged,

1097
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.480
He's a little like things aren't. He's not making great

1098
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:38.599
decisions in every moment of this episode, and it's because

1099
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:42.199
of the context within which this episode is set. So yeah,

1100
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.199
I totally agree with you. I think I think it's

1101
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:46.719
a fantastic performance and it's a one off. You never

1102
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.480
see the guy again, so it's just a really special

1103
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:52.840
and his you know, his acting child. I mean, like,

1104
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.559
I love these images. You're seeing all sorts of different

1105
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.840
like emotional aspects of the way that he expresses himself

1106
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.960
during the episode. Like you said, he's crying, sometimes he's angry,

1107
01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:08.920
sometimes he's got his shit together. Sometimes it's really there's

1108
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:11.400
a lot of range here being shown.

1109
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:13.679
And the little arrogant sometimes he thinks he knows what

1110
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:15.679
to do and he's gonna bully Spock and you know

1111
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.639
and everything. He's just very much I'm a commodore, I

1112
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.000
rank all you bastards. I'll do whatever I want, yep,

1113
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.519
until he realizes that that doesn't always fly. And it's

1114
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.320
just you know, what I like most about it is

1115
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:31.519
the character has been tremendously traumatized, right, and he's not

1116
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.000
afraid to show it, and he really it's raw. So

1117
01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:36.360
it's incredible performance. And right up until the moment that

1118
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:40.000
he you know, does what he does, it's it's incredible.

1119
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:43.480
So I want to make sure we're mindful of everyone's time.

1120
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:44.840
So I'm going to just jump right ahead to my

1121
01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:50.119
second choice for a great Star Trek performance, and that

1122
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:52.679
is a gentleman who actually appeared on Star Trek twice.

1123
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:56.119
But I want to talk about his initial appearance during

1124
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:57.800
the first season of Star Trek, and that is the

1125
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:02.320
wonderful Morgan Woodward. Okay, in first season episode Dagger of

1126
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:06.360
the Mind, that's like the ninth episode of the first season,

1127
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:12.559
replaces doctor Simon van Gelder. I watched this uh performance

1128
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:14.519
just within the last year again, and it is it

1129
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:18.199
is amazing what this guy does. It is he seems

1130
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:23.000
so unhinged at first, right, I mean, he seems like

1131
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:26.000
somebody who's in the in the East. We found this

1132
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:29.440
guy from a you know, mental institution is where the

1133
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.159
starship's orbiting, well, a penal column, and they but for

1134
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:33.320
very disturbations.

1135
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:33.480
Right.

1136
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:38.320
He seems so disturbed, like he can barely govern the

1137
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:42.360
thoughts and he just conveys complete anarchy as somebody who's

1138
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:46.159
just you know, really really unhinged, and you come to

1139
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:48.760
find out that this is, you know, one of the

1140
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:53.679
doctors at the institution who's had this terrible machine used

1141
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:56.679
on him to you know, mess with his identity and

1142
01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:01.719
and whatnot. It's an incredible performance. And fine, I mean,

1143
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.440
they have to keep anesthetizing this guy. It keeps sedating

1144
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:08.280
him because he's so out of control and he's just

1145
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:14.199
like completely It's very compelling. If you've known anybody with

1146
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:17.440
behavioral health issues, who've ever been near medical settings that

1147
01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:22.360
have behavioral health patients, it's incredibly realistic. It's very very disturbing.

1148
01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.599
He does a really great job here and finally, and

1149
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:27.679
it's just I love the way it ties in with

1150
01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:30.639
the core crew Spock. It's one of the first examples

1151
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:32.519
we see a Spock doing the mind mild where helps

1152
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:36.559
him recover his identity and calm himself and help get

1153
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:40.960
to the truth through that contact. It's really really great

1154
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:43.360
and all of a sudden there's serenity and a sense

1155
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:47.679
of self and the he's come out of the forest rights.

1156
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:51.480
It's an incredible performance. He does an amazing job. That

1157
01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.719
was Season one. We had to wait until season two

1158
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:59.920
to see Morgan Woodward again, but showed up in an

1159
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.079
episode gets a lot of grief, but I freaking love

1160
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:05.679
it the Omega Glory, right, it is such a fun episode.

1161
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:07.639
I just love it. And you can see from his

1162
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.280
bearing here, right, Morgan Woodward used to get cast in

1163
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:15.480
westerns all the time, right, as you know, the the

1164
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:17.920
ranch owner who's you know, up to no good or

1165
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.599
the marshall who maybe has you know, taken money from

1166
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:23.599
someone he shouldn't have, right, I mean, he's a he

1167
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:25.639
could be a very threatening presence.

1168
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:26.119
Right.

1169
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:32.400
And if my friend Eric ever publishes his book on that,

1170
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.239
I'm hoping he will on the evil Admirals of Starfleet

1171
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:38.800
Academy or of Starfleet. You know, I'm pretty sure Captain

1172
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:40.920
Ronald Tracy will be in chapter one because he was

1173
01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.960
one of the very first just out of control dudes.

1174
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:46.960
You gotta worry about the guys who have good intentions,

1175
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.119
as we see in our politics. Right. He thinks he's

1176
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.800
doing a good job, right, because he's another captain who

1177
01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:56.280
lost his crew. Right, this plague happened where this is

1178
01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:58.599
the one where they beam up on his ship, right

1179
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:01.360
and all they find are empty uniforms with like you know,

1180
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:04.880
salt dripping out of the sleeves, right, I mean they've

1181
01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:07.360
all been crystallized, all the water has been taken out.

1182
01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:13.679
Come to find out, everyone on this planet is basically immortal, right,

1183
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:15.840
and he's desperate to figure it out. He wants to

1184
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:18.600
find out who, you know, how to take the lemonade

1185
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.079
the lemons of his crew dying and turn it into

1186
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:25.520
lemonade of immortality. But he's great. He's very threatening. He

1187
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:28.319
is willing to you know, gun somebody down and cold

1188
01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:32.039
blood with a phaser right in front of you. He's

1189
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:34.920
not screwing around this guy, right. But it's a really

1190
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:38.880
great performance. Flawed human being. But you can't take your

1191
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.720
eyes off this guy, right, And you just can't. You're

1192
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.159
watching him the entire time. He's absolutely wonderful and an

1193
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:48.520
interesting counterpoint to his work as Ben Gelder in season one.

1194
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:51.560
So to me, Morgan woodword, I salute you. You're a

1195
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:56.039
phenomenal performer. I mean, he's just absolutely great. Last one

1196
01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:59.119
for me from an original series, This performance I think

1197
01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:04.239
is just phenomenon. The absolutely astonishing William Marshall. Okay, and

1198
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.600
again this is you know, I keep going back to

1199
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:09.119
these classic episodes from the original series, just because i

1200
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:10.880
can watch them year in and year out, and I'm

1201
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:12.600
just like, it's like I'm seeing it again for the

1202
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:14.399
first time every single time. And I'm talking about the

1203
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:18.479
Ultimate Computer. Okay, season two towards the end of the run,

1204
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:23.399
and we finally get to meet the legendary doctor Richard Daystrom, right,

1205
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:28.159
who designed the computers on the Enterprise. Right. So he's

1206
01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:33.279
an academic, he's a scientist. He's a guy who who

1207
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:38.159
really is a genius, right, who means well, and he

1208
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:42.039
has this idea of a benevolent future for things. And

1209
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:47.319
he's never been taken seriously in certain ways, and he's

1210
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:49.520
had to hide a lot and live through his work.

1211
01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:53.159
And just the way he has suppressed some of that,

1212
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:58.079
and the way that he is able to be blind

1213
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:03.000
to the parts of himself that he's let creep into

1214
01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:06.159
the consciousness of the machines he's created is just amazing.

1215
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:13.520
And he's got some suppressed you know, megalomania in there, frankly.

1216
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:18.560
And when somebody threatens the M five, they're not just

1217
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.239
threatening him. He sees it as his child, right, and uh,

1218
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:26.760
and he really loses it and and he's you know,

1219
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:29.680
when all of the starships in the war game simulation

1220
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:33.359
are destroyed and all those hundreds of crewmen are killed, stays.

1221
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:39.560
Trim's like, well, sorry, it's just but not sorry because

1222
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:41.640
M five is my computer and it's just he's it's

1223
01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:45.159
it's a complex performance we have. Marshall went on to

1224
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:49.680
play Blacula, right, but I don't you shouldn't just think

1225
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:52.720
of him as blacular Is. He's such a strong actor.

1226
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:55.279
I mean that you could just see the theatrical stage

1227
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:57.319
trading and his performance. He's just remarkable.

1228
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:00.000
The thing that stands out for me about this episode

1229
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:03.279
is the delivery of some of his lines, especially when

1230
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:07.600
he starts getting really passionate. He'd like you just feel

1231
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:11.479
the force, the emotional force of his characters sort of

1232
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:14.840
coming to the foe, and that that to me like

1233
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.000
defines a great performance, right when you feel the emotion

1234
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:21.640
coming off the actor as they're saying the line. Because

1235
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:24.680
there's writing, but then there's like delivery of the lines.

1236
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:28.279
That's like with you have good writing, but you got

1237
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:31.079
to have good delivery of the lines and otherwise it's meaningless.

1238
01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:33.119
Yeah, he takes it to a whole another level. I

1239
01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:36.079
mean as a writer, you're only really you know, sketching

1240
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:38.279
the blueprint of the character, right. It's the actor who

1241
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:40.399
really finds the character right and goes in there and

1242
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:42.399
elevates it to the next level, like you're saying. And

1243
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:45.399
he was just amazing. And I just think historically, you know,

1244
01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:48.199
we talk a lot about Michelle Nichols right as being

1245
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:50.399
you know, one of the first, you know, black women

1246
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:53.920
in television, and I think this was really historic at

1247
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:56.720
the time to see, you know, here's a black actor

1248
01:11:57.079 --> 01:12:03.000
portraying a brilliant civilistation changing academic scientist. I don't think

1249
01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:05.319
we'd seen that a lot at this point in time.

1250
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:10.079
And I think William Marshall, I suspect knew that. But

1251
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:13.439
what's so amazing about that is he didn't allow that

1252
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:17.800
historic impact to make him just paint the character as

1253
01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:21.640
being purely good, right. He still was able to go

1254
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:23.800
in there and make him a flawed person, a whole

1255
01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:29.079
human being who was you know, had issues and didn't

1256
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:31.439
you know, was willing to you know, make a rounded

1257
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:35.560
performance and play him as a damaged individual. I think

1258
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:37.560
that takes a lot of courage to do that, given

1259
01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:40.720
the stakes of how that must have been perceived. At

1260
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:43.760
the time. So for me, my big three are all

1261
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:47.319
original series from the first and second season of Classic

1262
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.960
Star Trek. I just want to do really quickly one

1263
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:52.079
bonus though, just to prove to everybody that I'm not

1264
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:54.840
married completely the original series, because I love all of it.

1265
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:56.680
But I want to just really quick give a huge

1266
01:12:56.680 --> 01:13:00.119
shout out from one of the great two parters of

1267
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.239
the Next Generation, which I absolutely love, and that's the

1268
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:08.760
absolutely legendary David Warner, the absolutely spectacular Who in This Place?

1269
01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:12.159
In the classic two part Chain of Command played one

1270
01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:15.600
of the first really intense, you know, defining looks of

1271
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:20.159
the Cardassians we've ever seen. Goll Madrid, and we talk

1272
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:24.159
about how Star Trek can mirror life right, what we've

1273
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:29.760
seen right, and and this mirrored Abu Grabe. It mirrored

1274
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:33.800
all the different things that we've seen when forces of

1275
01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:39.119
repressive authority have somebody under their control and and look

1276
01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:42.279
to punish and hurt them for their for their goals.

1277
01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:45.600
At one point, Goal Madred is torturing John Luke Leccard

1278
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:50.239
and his daughter comes in like, oh, hi, daddy, is

1279
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:53.800
what are you still working? You know, basically, yes, my dear,

1280
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:56.720
I am. And he's all cheerful and friendly with his daughter, right,

1281
01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:59.439
because it's like it's bring your daughter to work day

1282
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:03.680
at the guard Order, right, and it just it makes

1283
01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:08.079
him a disturbing portrait of the normalcy of abuse, right.

1284
01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:11.119
You know, I see four lights, but for him, it's

1285
01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:15.039
like just very much about I'm well, he sees himself

1286
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:17.479
as like somebody who's a woodworker, right, And I'm not

1287
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:20.399
quite standing this wood down yet. I needed to look

1288
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:23.840
very smooth along these lines, and it's almost there, but

1289
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:25.840
I'm not quite there yet. And he's going to keep

1290
01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:29.880
going until he's achieved his goal. So it's really disturbing.

1291
01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:32.840
There's his daughter coming in to visit him in the

1292
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:36.079
midst of all this horror, right that he's just you know,

1293
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:37.800
he goes. I want her to see it. I want

1294
01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:38.960
her to see it. I don't want to hide it

1295
01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:41.039
from her. I want her to know, right, because he

1296
01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:43.720
believes so much in what he's doing so an incredible performance.

1297
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:45.840
It's one of the things I think this keeps me

1298
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.039
coming back to Star Trek in all of its iterations

1299
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:52.960
year after year for decades, is their devotion to great acting,

1300
01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:57.680
to great performances and knowing that it's a place where

1301
01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:00.720
you can see the craft of acting, you know, exhibited

1302
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:03.279
with such love. So big shout out to all those

1303
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:06.199
and I cannot wait to hear what everyone else is

1304
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:09.439
going to choose for their performances. Who's next? In the hopper? Gentlemen?

1305
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:10.640
So who's next?

1306
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:15.199
Uh?

1307
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.319
Call of Jim? I mean, I I'll go if you'd

1308
01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:19.720
like me to.

1309
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:22.359
It's the slideshow, right, David, Who's in the slideshow?

1310
01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:23.399
Who's in the slideshow?

1311
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:25.560
I think that's that's what determines it. I think he's

1312
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:28.560
he's preset this, but I don't recall and have to go.

1313
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:32.720
Look, it looks like it is going to be Charles.

1314
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:33.239
Who's next?

1315
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:33.880
Charles?

1316
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:42.920
All right? Grab my notes. I had to go to

1317
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:49.359
the series that really got me started, really brought me back,

1318
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:56.000
I should say, And yeah, he's a bit of a

1319
01:15:56.079 --> 01:15:58.840
reoccurring character, but I don't think they really plan on

1320
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:04.920
doing and reoccurring until they realized who they had. And

1321
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:12.359
that's a nod to John Delancy. John Delancy showed up

1322
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:18.560
in if we call Encounter two episodes two, three, four

1323
01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:23.880
or five, six, seven, eight, nine episodes. He didn't show

1324
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:29.960
up in season five, but nine episodes in TNG and

1325
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:37.359
then several episodes a DS Deep Sace nine three from

1326
01:16:37.479 --> 01:16:42.359
Voyager one from Lower Decks. But I found some quotes

1327
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:47.439
from fan wire that I just loved when I read them.

1328
01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:52.640
Up You was originally meant to be a serious, no

1329
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:59.359
nonsense antagonist, but John Delancey had a humor, sarcasm, and

1330
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:07.239
playful to make him unforgettable. Stortrik universe survives on serious

1331
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:12.159
diplomacy and high stakes based drama, but Q brought necessary

1332
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:18.199
chaos and comedy, making him a fan favorite. Without John

1333
01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:22.239
Delancy's creative choices, K might have been a forgettable one

1334
01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:25.319
note villain and said he became one of the most

1335
01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:30.720
iconic characters in sci fi. Hugh wasn't there to there

1336
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:35.119
to antagonize the crew. He was there to entertain the audience.

1337
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:39.640
His comic timing, his flair for dramatics, and his ability

1338
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:43.600
to poke fun at self serious nature of Starfleet made

1339
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:49.840
him a delight to watch. And yes, we mentioned Trelaine

1340
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:55.279
and there were questions was Trelaine the original QUE one

1341
01:17:55.279 --> 01:18:01.239
of the original Q members, but we got to see him.

1342
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:10.680
He tried to share his powers with Riiker in Hide

1343
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:19.319
and Q. He gave us he changed next generation.

1344
01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:22.880
In Q, who.

1345
01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:29.199
When he introduced us to the Borg. It's because of

1346
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:34.279
his work, because of that episode, that we got our

1347
01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:38.760
big villains, the Borg. In the episode you see pop

1348
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:42.920
up right there Tapestry, we got to see him go

1349
01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:46.640
back and change what was John looked behind for Card.

1350
01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:49.760
If he went back in the path and change his past.

1351
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:56.119
We could see that power of changing somebody's past, and

1352
01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:58.760
what would happen if they went through that new timeline

1353
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:03.399
and realized he was Ricard wasn't the person he wanted

1354
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:11.640
to be. I believe I've read that Patrick Stewart. It's

1355
01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:17.520
Patrick Stewart or Wesley who said that's one of their

1356
01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:22.199
favorite episodes is Tapestry because Tapestry just was an interesting

1357
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:32.039
look to looking at the past. Of course it brings

1358
01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:39.520
this brings up from Cupid. One of our favorite lines

1359
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:46.439
from that episode, I am not a marry Man or Wharf,

1360
01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:55.119
but we got to see them in Robin Hood. I think,

1361
01:19:55.359 --> 01:20:01.840
really John Delancey was a major major way of modeling

1362
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:11.840
and made fans truly enjoy Next Generation. And I love

1363
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:15.279
what they did with Q and I think John Delancey

1364
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:20.439
just brought us to a great character. I might debate

1365
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:22.359
on the argument of c being a villain.

1366
01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:24.079
Q is Q.

1367
01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:27.239
He's not really a villain. He sees it, he sees

1368
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:30.920
things on his way. We even got to see what

1369
01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:36.560
happened in DEJACQUESQ when Q was banished and offered to

1370
01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:46.760
sacrifice himself to save the crew. So when I sat

1371
01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:50.520
there and did this, it's like, Okay, we kind of

1372
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:55.840
left Q hanging. So who's my second person on my list?

1373
01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:01.520
John Delancy? This time I'm going to bring him in

1374
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:06.199
two pericard. We got to see a different queue, a

1375
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:13.960
queue that admitted he was dying and so but Hugh's

1376
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:21.239
got his last deals of trying to help Humanity, and

1377
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:23.760
I hope David got the slideshow sliding so I can

1378
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:27.479
see more scenes. But we got to see the fact

1379
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:31.479
of him getting a chance of moving us moving into

1380
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:35.000
different places. We got to see a little bit of

1381
01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:41.760
the future that we weren't expecting to see and moving

1382
01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:44.640
into the direction. But we also got to see a

1383
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:48.600
queue where we got to see a finale instead of

1384
01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:52.800
where everything where Que. He still left the episode. He

1385
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:57.880
still left all good things and said, well there's still

1386
01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:05.159
a future coming around. Humanity's still on trial. Well, this

1387
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:09.079
was his finale in trying to get the in humanity

1388
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:12.920
on trial, and we got to see him on eight

1389
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:18.159
episodes in Bricard in season two. But I think what

1390
01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:24.600
we weren't expecting was the finale, and well we thought

1391
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:32.000
Q saying goodbye and the hug that the Bricard would

1392
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:38.520
give Q because they still they still had some connections

1393
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:43.680
and really caring about Q. And of course it's this.

1394
01:22:44.039 --> 01:22:47.800
We thought, okay, this was going to be the end,

1395
01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:54.880
and then who shows up At the last scene in

1396
01:22:55.039 --> 01:23:01.359
Ricard's season three. Q shows up again, this time talking

1397
01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:06.520
to Beverly's son and leave us hanging and wondering could

1398
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:12.840
Q show up again? Really showing what a character and

1399
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:18.920
what a power John Delancey was for Star Trek. I'm

1400
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:23.479
really happy with what they did with him. Then I

1401
01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:27.159
kind of looked at like, Okay, I know some people

1402
01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:29.840
will go with TNG. I want to get something a

1403
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:36.840
little more current. Okay, let me go look who Discovery.

1404
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:41.319
Who was somebody big in Discovery? Oh oh, one of

1405
01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:52.199
my favorite characters, Rain Wilson Hardcourt Feton Mud, the villain

1406
01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:55.880
we hated in cos.

1407
01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:00.079
Finely seeing him.

1408
01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:03.920
So, I hear somebody wants to talk about the other

1409
01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:07.039
Hairy Mud, But I want to talk about the new

1410
01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:15.399
Harry Mud. He comes in talking about Escape Artist. We

1411
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:20.439
got to see him in a short Trek, but I

1412
01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:25.159
actually got the maut of order. We first actually see

1413
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:33.399
him in Discovery Choose your Own Pain, and what we

1414
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:35.800
kind of suddenly realized he was a bit of a

1415
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:43.199
interesting character showing up. He was willing to sacrifice anybody

1416
01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:48.439
to survive and yet knowing that he was caught in

1417
01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:58.000
that prison, in that duk Lingon prison and what occurred

1418
01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:00.560
with that in trying to deal with the characters that

1419
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:06.439
we're in that prison. Then the episode that I know

1420
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:12.239
many people didn't like but I thoroughly enjoyed Magic to

1421
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:17.279
make the sanest Man go mad. We got to see

1422
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:25.159
space Whales. Yes, it was a reoccurrence of an episode

1423
01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:30.960
that was being played over and over and over, Harry

1424
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:33.520
Mudd trying to decide how many times he can kill

1425
01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:41.399
somebody and them finally figuring out the best way to

1426
01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:49.239
stop him is to bring Stella around. It's nice to

1427
01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:55.560
see that. And then of course he reappeared in Short

1428
01:25:55.680 --> 01:26:03.680
Treks the Escape Artist. And interesting is that the Rain

1429
01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:07.000
Wilson actually directed that episode as well as starring in it.

1430
01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:11.600
So I've got to see him, we do some good

1431
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:12.239
work with it.

1432
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:14.800
And speed up.

1433
01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:17.239
I think I will stop there and we can work

1434
01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:18.319
on to our next person.

1435
01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:22.760
Okay, Eric, you're next to the slide show.

1436
01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:27.600
All right? Uh yeah. I have three characters that I

1437
01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:31.000
really want to talk about here. The very first is

1438
01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:35.960
Roger C. Carmel. So he was the original Harry Mudd,

1439
01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:40.359
same character as Charles was just talking about. To me,

1440
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:44.079
this actor define this character. I mean, you have somebody

1441
01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:49.680
who is a prototypical rogue, scoundrel, petty thief, an outrageous liar,

1442
01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:54.760
a brazen con man. He's got a rap sheet, right,

1443
01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:56.319
and this is the first time in Star Trek that

1444
01:26:56.359 --> 01:26:58.399
we see somebody with a rap sheet. And to me,

1445
01:26:58.720 --> 01:27:03.800
this actor defined this character. You see his personality come through,

1446
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:09.920
you see his emotion come through through these images. You'll

1447
01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:14.199
kind of see lots of different facial expressions represented during

1448
01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:16.600
this time. So he only shows up in three episodes

1449
01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:20.119
of Star Trek, two episodes of the original series, and

1450
01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:25.479
one episode of the animated series. He actually was uncredited

1451
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:28.880
for his voicing of that character from the animated series,

1452
01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:33.479
but obviously it was the same guy, and Roger C.

1453
01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:36.359
Carmel is such a great actor. Not only did he

1454
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:40.560
grace the animals of Star Trek, he was a huge

1455
01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:46.520
part of another franchise that I completely love, Transformers. He

1456
01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:50.279
was in the original Transformers movie. He eventually went on

1457
01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:56.000
to voice the Decepticon Cyclonists in the Transformers animated series

1458
01:27:56.119 --> 01:28:01.920
later years. In nineteen eighty six, he just, to me

1459
01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:07.760
showed us what a real a person who was outside

1460
01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:10.920
of what Gene Roddenberry's vision for what humanity should be

1461
01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:12.640
in the future could be.

1462
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:13.159
Right.

1463
01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:17.560
Gene Roddenberry showed us that humanity was beyond things like

1464
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:24.399
monetary gain, was beyond things like self gratification. And yet

1465
01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:27.880
we still have characters like Harry Mud showing up in

1466
01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:31.399
the original series. So I just want to really give

1467
01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:34.920
a huge shout out to Roger C. Carmel for being

1468
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:38.800
the very first person to represent this character. And honestly,

1469
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:42.079
I think these two episodes of the original series that

1470
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:47.039
he's in, MUD's Women and I Mud our great episodes.

1471
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.239
I think they're fun. We were just talking about fun

1472
01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:51.800
in strange new worlds and how Star Trek can bring

1473
01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:54.279
the fun. I think these are two of the funnest

1474
01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:59.079
episodes of the original series, particularly I Mud, I like

1475
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.359
quite a bit the whole Android situation going on there.

1476
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:08.039
So my first character, or my first actor, is Roger

1477
01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:13.640
Carmel portraying Harry Mud, and I just really appreciate Oh yeah,

1478
01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:16.239
and David's slideshow here is reminding me that he also

1479
01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:18.760
then shows up a little bit later in some of

1480
01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:21.479
the Star Trek comics from both DC and Marvel, they

1481
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:25.560
both did stories involving Harry Mud because he's just fantastic character.

1482
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:27.880
I mean, how many other characters can you think of

1483
01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:31.079
that only show up in two or three episodes of

1484
01:29:31.159 --> 01:29:37.159
Star Trek who literally become fan favorites straight away. Not

1485
01:29:37.359 --> 01:29:37.760
very many.

1486
01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:39.399
So Roger c.

1487
01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.439
Carmel, thank you so much for your contributions to Star Trek.

1488
01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:47.520
I'm going to move on to my second character, slash actor.

1489
01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:51.640
My second actor comes from one of my favorite episodes

1490
01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:56.680
of Deep Space nine ever. If you haven't seen season one,

1491
01:29:56.880 --> 01:30:01.000
episode nineteen, it's called Duet, you need to stop what

1492
01:30:01.079 --> 01:30:04.279
you're doing and go and watch that episode right now.

1493
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:06.880
This is one of the best episodes of DS nine

1494
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:14.640
ever of all time. Harris Eulen plays a Cardassian who

1495
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:20.239
originally comes on board Deep Space nine claiming that he

1496
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:25.039
well he has Calenorra syndrome, which is this syndrome that

1497
01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:27.479
you can only contract if you were in this one

1498
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:29.760
place at this one time, and it happens to be

1499
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:35.840
on a labor camp on Beijor during the occupation. And

1500
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:39.359
what you come to find out during this episode spoiler alert,

1501
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:41.039
So if you want to go watch it and not

1502
01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:44.000
know what's going on, like shut the podcast off now

1503
01:30:44.119 --> 01:30:47.000
and come back to it. But what you find out

1504
01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:52.239
is that this character originally comes on Deep Space nine

1505
01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:55.880
purporting to be simply a file clerk that happened to

1506
01:30:56.000 --> 01:31:01.960
be present during the Kardassian occupation, who then is revealed

1507
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:06.720
to be the butcher of Galatep, the guy who literally

1508
01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:14.159
perpetrated atrocities against the Bajoran population, who then you find

1509
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:17.880
out later is actually the file clerk who's trying to

1510
01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:23.840
atone with himself for all of those atrocities that happened

1511
01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:28.920
on Bejor. Harris Yulen goes through every single range of

1512
01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:33.439
emotion in this episode. He's sad, he's happy, he's brazen,

1513
01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:39.199
he's curling in a corner. His facial expressions are fantastic.

1514
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:42.479
The way he delivers lines are fantastic. The writing in

1515
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:48.239
this episode is unparalleled in my opinion, and the way

1516
01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:53.760
that he just brings life to this character is just

1517
01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:57.119
something really really special, and for a character who only

1518
01:31:57.159 --> 01:32:01.920
shows up in a single episode, for me, this is

1519
01:32:02.039 --> 01:32:06.439
the guy that does more than anybody else in any

1520
01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:09.199
episode to bring life to this character and to bring

1521
01:32:09.319 --> 01:32:16.079
life to the fantastic writing represented in this episode. Every summer,

1522
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:19.199
I attend a summer in arts summer camp and I

1523
01:32:19.439 --> 01:32:24.439
run a workshop called Trek Skits, And what we do

1524
01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:29.319
is we read condensed versions of scripts of Star Trek

1525
01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:31.640
and then we sit and we talk about them for

1526
01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:34.840
a while. And I did duet last summer, and I

1527
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:37.640
will tell you that I had about fifty to fifty

1528
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:41.079
Star Trek fans and non Star Trek fans in my group.

1529
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:46.199
We read a ten minute version of this script and

1530
01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:47.960
we talked about it for an hour and a half.

1531
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.840
That's how good this episode is. And Harris Yulen's portrayal

1532
01:32:52.640 --> 01:32:59.279
of Aman Maritza Slash goldar Heel is just for me,

1533
01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:01.520
one of the best things that I've ever seen on

1534
01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:04.399
Star Treks. So if you're not a Deep Space nine fan,

1535
01:33:04.840 --> 01:33:06.800
or if you haven't seen this episode for a while,

1536
01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:11.319
please go and watch season one episode nineteen called Duet.

1537
01:33:12.520 --> 01:33:15.840
It's really like Stellar, It's just I can't say much

1538
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:19.439
more about it. And then, last, but not least, I

1539
01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:22.039
want to bring up a character who appears in fourteen

1540
01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:25.119
episodes of Deep Space nine, but for me is the

1541
01:33:25.239 --> 01:33:28.840
best star Trek villain of all time. We have Luise

1542
01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:35.279
excuse me, Louise Fletcher playing i win Adami, and you

1543
01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:38.680
know who she is, right she becomes the Bajoran religious

1544
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:42.720
leader on Deep Space nine, grabs people by the ear,

1545
01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:47.439
calls them my child. First of all, let's just talk

1546
01:33:47.439 --> 01:33:50.720
about Louise Fletcher in general. I mean, she's one of

1547
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:54.319
the best actresses of all time. She's known as playing

1548
01:33:54.399 --> 01:33:57.079
Nurse Ratchet in the original one Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest,

1549
01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:03.439
which is the the fifth most popular villain of all time,

1550
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:09.079
as rated by the American Film Society. So you know,

1551
01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:13.680
she's got chops. And when they bring her into this role,

1552
01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:23.920
she portrays a character who is ambitious, she's petty, she's jealous,

1553
01:34:24.640 --> 01:34:30.920
she's facetious, she's condescending. I mean, for me, a truly,

1554
01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:37.199
truly great villain is one who is identifiable in their

1555
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:43.079
motives and goals. You can see where they think they're

1556
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:47.079
the good guy and yet they continue to do horrible

1557
01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:50.680
things in the name of what they believe. And for me,

1558
01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:55.000
Kaiwen Adami is the character on Deep Space nine who,

1559
01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:59.640
more than Golducott, more than Goldemar, more than a lot

1560
01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:06.680
of these other characters, reflects what we see so much

1561
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:10.159
of in today's modern society, which is people who tell

1562
01:35:10.199 --> 01:35:13.279
you one thing to your face and then do another

1563
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:18.479
thing behind your back. She just is like the perfect

1564
01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:22.880
kind of version of that type of villain. Every time

1565
01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:28.359
you see her, you hate her. And to me, if

1566
01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:31.520
you hate the villain every single time you see them,

1567
01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:35.720
then that's a great villain. That's not to say that

1568
01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:37.479
she doesn't have a great art, because she kind of

1569
01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:39.920
starts out there, and then throughout the seven seasons of

1570
01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:42.640
Deep Space nine, she eventually kind of makes her way

1571
01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:46.600
into this situation with goldu Cott and that sort of

1572
01:35:46.640 --> 01:35:49.359
stuff where you see the way that he starts to

1573
01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:54.359
take advantage of her as a result of her own

1574
01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:58.880
hubris and her own way of thinking that she's right

1575
01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:04.640
all the time. So I could watch Louise Fletcher a

1576
01:36:04.800 --> 01:36:08.079
million times in these Deep Space nine episodes, and I

1577
01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:11.359
just can't say enough about how fantastic I think she

1578
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:14.920
is in this role. For me, Kaiwin Adami is the

1579
01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:18.479
best Star Trek villain out there, and the fact that

1580
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:22.039
she has that kind of impact over only fourteen episodes

1581
01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:26.119
of Star Trek in general is amazing to me. So

1582
01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:28.920
there you go, guys, that those are my three choices.

1583
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:33.479
We've got the comedic guy Robert Roger C. Carmel playing

1584
01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:39.399
Harry Mudd. We've got Harris Yulin playing his dual role

1585
01:36:39.479 --> 01:36:43.279
there of Amon Maritza and Goldark Heel, and then we

1586
01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:46.159
have Louise Fletcher playing thy Win Adami.

1587
01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:51.000
All right, and I guess we're gonna jump in with

1588
01:36:51.159 --> 01:36:58.000
David next, right, all right, so.

1589
01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:01.880
Let me quickly get this open. I am going to

1590
01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:07.520
be talking about the great Jeffrey Combs. This guy is

1591
01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:11.399
pretty amazing with all the different roles that he ended

1592
01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:14.880
up doing, and I actually enjoyed a lot of his

1593
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:18.880
acting all the way from Enterprise to dBase nine down

1594
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:23.520
the Voyager. I think those role the okayse she did

1595
01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:29.840
the lower decks and so yeah, I enjoyed watching this

1596
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:36.880
guy play the roles that he did. And sorry I

1597
01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:41.640
forgot to put this in slide show. Then h Yeah, so,

1598
01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:43.960
you know, he did a lot of different work throughout

1599
01:37:43.960 --> 01:37:48.199
Star Trek and I, uh, I enjoyed what he had

1600
01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:51.720
done to the different characters that he played. He played

1601
01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:56.159
Ran from you can see here the Enterprise, she played

1602
01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:58.680
the voice of the computer. I'm gonna go kind of

1603
01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:00.479
fast with THEE because we'll kind of went at a time.

1604
01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:04.760
But he also did run Fungi from Deep Base nine

1605
01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:07.960
and yeah, so he just did a lot of different

1606
01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:13.680
acting roles and he to me, I, I love the

1607
01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:16.319
way his voice sounds. I like the way he delivered

1608
01:38:16.359 --> 01:38:18.960
his lines as well, and he's just he's got this.

1609
01:38:19.800 --> 01:38:22.319
He really digs into the characters that he played and

1610
01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:24.880
one of them is different, which is, in my opinion,

1611
01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:29.640
a really great uh way to know that these kind

1612
01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:35.359
of guys are great actors who portray different characters. And

1613
01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:38.159
you know, he played the Clone on Deep Base nine,

1614
01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:44.119
and yeah, I really enjoyed this titular character because he

1615
01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:47.000
he just brought a lot of flavor out the Star

1616
01:38:47.119 --> 01:38:50.359
Trek and I really appreciate that what he had bought

1617
01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:55.039
made it very enjoyable. So yeah, that's what I got

1618
01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:57.880
for him. And my next slide is going to be

1619
01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:03.680
side Jem but ided up picking a cleanon. So we're

1620
01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:07.640
gonna talk about Christopher Lloyd. Christopher Lloyd did a really

1621
01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:10.920
interesting role played as a cleanup. I've never actually thought

1622
01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:16.159
he would play a cleanon at all. I couldn't really

1623
01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:18.239
picture him as a clean on, but he surprised me.

1624
01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:22.600
He actually did a really good job as playing I

1625
01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:24.960
should have looked it up, but I forgot his character's name.

1626
01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:27.920
Crude.

1627
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:32.600
There there you go, yep, Crude. And he's the one

1628
01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:39.039
responsible for trapping basically the entire Enterprise crew on the planet,

1629
01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:44.359
the Genesis planet. This was I believe the episode that

1630
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:45.600
took place.

1631
01:39:47.279 --> 01:39:49.520
Before con woild it.

1632
01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:53.199
No, this is Start Trek three. This happened okay after.

1633
01:39:53.159 --> 01:39:56.920
That's right, Yeah, okay, that's yes, that's right. The Genesis

1634
01:39:56.960 --> 01:39:59.359
blew up and the planet would created and everything the

1635
01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:02.399
planet starting to fall apart. He did a very good

1636
01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:03.159
job of.

1637
01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:06.199
His acting.

1638
01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:09.840
He played a really good clean on. I Like I said,

1639
01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:12.680
I never would have thought he would have done any

1640
01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:14.279
type of role like this if he would have played

1641
01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:16.600
on Star Trek. For some other reason, I kept picturing

1642
01:40:16.720 --> 01:40:21.640
him in some sort of like science field of some sort,

1643
01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:25.119
like you know, a gentle alien or something. But yeah,

1644
01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:28.520
he just he did a phenomenal role. And of course

1645
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:30.840
we all know him from Back to the Future and

1646
01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:34.520
that was I think the very first movie I ever

1647
01:40:34.640 --> 01:40:40.119
saw him play in. But yeah, he did a pretty

1648
01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:43.359
good job. I like what he did. And my last one,

1649
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:49.239
I picked this one particularly mainly because I enjoyed his

1650
01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:53.079
character of what he had played on in Star Treking

1651
01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:57.359
Price and I'm talking about Dean Stockwell, he did a

1652
01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:01.520
pretty good job at playing Commander.

1653
01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:04.880
Grat I believe his name was, and he.

1654
01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:10.560
He did a really good job in my opinion, as

1655
01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:13.880
how he delivered his lines and the way that he

1656
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:21.079
delivered them was to me in a very emotional way

1657
01:41:21.199 --> 01:41:24.960
because of the current situation that was going on. You know,

1658
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:27.479
he was in charge of keeping track of all the

1659
01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:33.199
subbands that would come through the whole plant, the whole

1660
01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:35.720
war thing that they had going on with the cabal,

1661
01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:41.840
and I liked the way that this particular episode played

1662
01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:44.840
where it lined up with what was going on with

1663
01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:50.720
the Shoeban Chavilions like this was a lot. It reminds

1664
01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:54.319
me a lot of the George k situation. If anybody

1665
01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:58.199
hadn't written to read his book yet about his time

1666
01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:02.319
in an encampment. I just could imagine what the shoot

1667
01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:05.439
Bonds would have been going through at this particulation particular

1668
01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:10.359
type of event, because what they had to go through

1669
01:42:10.399 --> 01:42:13.640
and endure is pretty much exact same thing in my opinion,

1670
01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:18.520
that George Kaik went through excuse me, and yeah, so

1671
01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:23.800
he he did a phenomenal job at keeping the character

1672
01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:27.920
alive and trying to figure out who the the cabal

1673
01:42:28.039 --> 01:42:33.079
were caball and of course if nobody really knows but

1674
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:36.159
Dean Talk were also played in a very interesting TV

1675
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:44.319
show with Jonathan Usher here called Just Rocked The thought of.

1676
01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:46.279
It, want to wait?

1677
01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:46.680
There you go?

1678
01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:53.520
Yeah, so they did a really good job at acting

1679
01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:56.399
on each other, like I, you know, just being able

1680
01:42:56.439 --> 01:43:00.119
to because they're probably used to playing together so well

1681
01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:04.279
that's probably how they were able to bound their lines

1682
01:43:04.319 --> 01:43:06.760
off of each other. But dank stalkwell I really thought

1683
01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:10.000
he did a phenomenal job and the role that he

1684
01:43:10.279 --> 01:43:13.680
was meant to play for. So yep, and that's all

1685
01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:15.439
I got for me. So I guess Jim you're gonna

1686
01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:15.760
be next.

1687
01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:18.399
All right, Well, this is going to be no surprise

1688
01:43:18.479 --> 01:43:21.560
to you guys. I picked The Klingon as my first guy,

1689
01:43:23.159 --> 01:43:26.159
and we're gonna go with John Kolikos, and there he

1690
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:30.279
is right there. He established himself as a sci fi villain,

1691
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:34.079
portraying the first ever Klingon scene on Star Trek Commander

1692
01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:38.439
Corp in the original series episode Aaron of Mercy, and

1693
01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:42.319
there he Is. He would also appear on as one

1694
01:43:42.359 --> 01:43:45.680
hundred and forty year old Klingon, showing up in three

1695
01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:48.479
episodes of Star Trek Deep Space nine, blood Oath, sworda

1696
01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:51.920
Kles and once more Onto the Breach. But I want

1697
01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:54.119
to talk about him here in Aeron a Mercy. I

1698
01:43:54.199 --> 01:43:57.159
think that he really choose up the scenes that he's in,

1699
01:43:57.479 --> 01:44:00.960
really good with Kirk and and I think he sets

1700
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:05.880
the tone for what a Klingon really is. He's menacing,

1701
01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:10.079
he's evil in the fact that he's not afraid to

1702
01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:14.039
kill hundreds of Arganians. Of course he doesn't know that

1703
01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:17.680
they're actually light bulbs, but he's willing to kill, you know,

1704
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.159
hundreds of them to get to Kirk and Spock. He's

1705
01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:23.840
going to put Spock in the mind rifter. I mean,

1706
01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:27.560
he's just basically a bad guy, and he sets the

1707
01:44:27.640 --> 01:44:29.800
tone for all Klingons that we will see. Of course,

1708
01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:32.520
when he comes back on Deep Space nine a little

1709
01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:37.039
bit later. He's a slightly different character. He's partying with

1710
01:44:37.119 --> 01:44:40.199
the women at Quarks, he's drinking the blood wine, he's

1711
01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:43.680
hanging out in the Holid deck, and he dies as

1712
01:44:43.720 --> 01:44:46.319
a hero. So that was my first choice was John

1713
01:44:46.359 --> 01:44:51.520
Colicos as Commander Corp, and you're not going to be

1714
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:56.479
too surprised. My next pick another klingon there. He is

1715
01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:01.640
Patrick Massett, who played Dross and Sins of the Father

1716
01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:05.640
and Reunion. I think that anybody that can only appear

1717
01:45:05.680 --> 01:45:09.279
in two episodes and make you hate him that much

1718
01:45:10.199 --> 01:45:14.560
and have such an impact on Star Trek, people think

1719
01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:17.560
that Duros was in a lot more episodes than he

1720
01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:23.880
really was because his influence just just bleeds all through TNG,

1721
01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:27.199
and in reality he was only in two episodes, and

1722
01:45:28.159 --> 01:45:32.119
when Warf kills him in Reunion, you're actually happy because

1723
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:36.239
he plays such a great bad guy and I loved

1724
01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:40.199
the way he died. So that's my second pick is

1725
01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:46.479
Patrick Massett as Duross. And my final choice we're gonna

1726
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:50.479
jump up to Discovery. Now we're gonna go to Mary Chiffa,

1727
01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:54.079
who played Laurel, and in particular, I want to talk

1728
01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:58.520
about her performance and Point of Light. That's where she's

1729
01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:02.079
on Quonos and she's the Chancellor of the High Council

1730
01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:06.000
and she's introducing the D seven and she's talking with

1731
01:46:07.359 --> 01:46:11.079
the council and she makes her in passing speech about

1732
01:46:11.880 --> 01:46:15.119
you will call me mother, and then she pulls out

1733
01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:17.079
the head of her dead baby and the head of

1734
01:46:17.159 --> 01:46:21.960
ash Tyler, throws him off the volcano and basically establishes

1735
01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:25.199
the fact that the Klingon Empire is now under her control.

1736
01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:27.520
And if you don't do what I say and you

1737
01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:30.920
don't fall in line, your head could be next. So

1738
01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:35.079
Mary Chiefo has Laurel, and I hope that we see her,

1739
01:46:35.119 --> 01:46:38.239
although it doesn't look like we will on Strange New

1740
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:43.720
Worlds because I think she she played Laurel absolutely spectacular,

1741
01:46:44.279 --> 01:46:49.000
and that wraps up my choices. And we have to

1742
01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:54.640
jump into Star Trek Birthdays real quick. So we're gonna

1743
01:46:54.680 --> 01:47:00.640
We're gonna do that right now, and and we're going

1744
01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:03.359
to have Eric dive right in. We always start off

1745
01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:05.680
our Star Trek birthdays by remembering those members of our

1746
01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:08.359
Star Trek family who went all longer with us. Eric

1747
01:47:08.479 --> 01:47:08.960
take it away.

1748
01:47:09.760 --> 01:47:13.159
Yeah, Our first remembrance this week is actress Annie Wershing,

1749
01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:17.560
the American actress who played Leana in Star Trek Enterprises

1750
01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:22.399
first season episode of Oasis, and then later on would

1751
01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:25.560
be brought back to portray the Bored Queen in the

1752
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:30.560
second season episode of Star Trek Picard Fantastic performances. Both

1753
01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:33.720
lost at too young of an age back in twenty

1754
01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:36.560
twenty three the age of forty five years old to cancer.

1755
01:47:37.039 --> 01:47:41.520
Happy Birthday, Annie Worshing, Happy Birthday, as well to Ron

1756
01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:45.920
Norman Soble, the actor who played Wyatt Irp in the

1757
01:47:46.159 --> 01:47:51.720
original series third season episode Specter of the Gun. Lots

1758
01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:56.520
of cool stuff on this guy's resume, including co starring

1759
01:47:56.680 --> 01:48:02.119
and True Gri Grit with John Wayne. Lots of cool stuff,

1760
01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:05.279
Go check him out. Ron Soble would have had a

1761
01:48:05.359 --> 01:48:08.479
birthday on March twenty eighth. He was born in nineteen

1762
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:12.119
twenty eight. Lost in two thousand to Happy Birthday, Ron,

1763
01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:17.560
Happy Birthday, as well to Ray Norman, the actress who

1764
01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:23.600
played Penny moroc in the Next Generation six season episode Tapestry.

1765
01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:27.079
She of course appeared in nineteen ninety one's True Colors,

1766
01:48:27.720 --> 01:48:31.079
and her most recent film work was in the drama

1767
01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:34.680
Five Nights in Hollywood from two thousand and nine was

1768
01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:37.119
Entails from the Crypt and a couple of other really

1769
01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:40.159
cool things along the way. Ray Norman lost back in

1770
01:48:40.319 --> 01:48:43.880
twenty twenty. Born in nineteen fifty eight, she was sixty

1771
01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:46.079
two years old when we lost her. Happy Birthday to

1772
01:48:46.159 --> 01:48:50.079
her Happy Birthday as well to Sharon Acker, the Canadian

1773
01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:54.439
actress who portrayed Odonna in the original series third season

1774
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:58.079
episode The Mark of Gideon. She was a regular soap

1775
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:02.159
opera actress in a executive Suite from nineteen seventy six

1776
01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:06.640
to nineteen seventy seven, and had a couple of other

1777
01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:09.920
credits to her name along the way, including starring in

1778
01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:14.119
nineteen sixty seven's point Blank Happy Birthday to Sharon Acker,

1779
01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:17.359
and last but not least, on our remembrance list, we

1780
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:21.199
say Happy Birthday to actress Grace Lee Whitney to actor,

1781
01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:25.920
excuse me, Grace Lee Whitney, the American, I said, actress

1782
01:49:26.319 --> 01:49:31.880
actress to portrayed our very first iteration of Yeoman Janice

1783
01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:35.319
Rand from the original series. You know, it's hard to

1784
01:49:35.359 --> 01:49:38.680
believe that she was only in eight episodes of the

1785
01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:42.600
original series. She was actually originally planned to be a

1786
01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:46.399
long standing character who appeared over and over again, but

1787
01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:48.520
we just got a little bit of a taste of her,

1788
01:49:49.279 --> 01:49:52.239
and as she was written out of the series. Later

1789
01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:57.159
Roddenberry would say that her dismissal was the dumbest mistake

1790
01:49:57.439 --> 01:50:00.560
he ever made. So we sure we that we would

1791
01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:04.119
have gotten some more Janis Rand along the way. But

1792
01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:07.640
happy birthday to Grace Lee Whitney lost back in twenty

1793
01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:11.680
fifteen at the age of eighty five years old. And

1794
01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:13.520
that does it for our remembrances this week.

1795
01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:18.439
Guys, Actually, Eric, can you go back and do Bob Hoy.

1796
01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:23.479
Sure did I miss one?

1797
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:23.800
Yes?

1798
01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:28.880
Yes, sure, Robert F. Hoy, I do not have notes

1799
01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:31.560
on him, but would have had a birthday this week

1800
01:50:31.720 --> 01:50:34.720
as well, So Happy birthday to Bob Hoy.

1801
01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:40.239
Stuntman actor who portrayed the original first season episode Devil

1802
01:50:40.279 --> 01:50:48.319
in the Dark. Okay, happy birthday to Ray Reinhart, you

1803
01:50:48.439 --> 01:50:54.920
played Admiral Aaron in TG's first season episode Conspiracy and

1804
01:50:55.079 --> 01:51:00.760
Professor Tolan Wrenn and Voyagers first season episode host Facto

1805
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:07.239
definitely not one of our favorite admirals. Happy birthday to

1806
01:51:07.319 --> 01:51:15.439
Martinlee MacLean, actress who played Menzattai in several episodes of

1807
01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:23.640
Star Trek Voyager Happy Birthday to Dan C. Kingsley, who

1808
01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:27.239
played the role of Arianne in the first season episode

1809
01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:33.960
of Haven. Happy Birthday to Jenna Hupp, actress who appeared

1810
01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:38.600
in two episodes of TNG. You first portrayed pa Though

1811
01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:43.960
in the first fourth season episode Galaxy's Child, and returned

1812
01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:49.399
to Monroe in the fifth season episode of Disaster. Happy

1813
01:51:49.479 --> 01:51:55.319
Birthday to Jessea Collins, actress had played Lennis Paris in

1814
01:51:55.560 --> 01:52:03.159
Voyagers thursdayson episode Before and After, and last on my List,

1815
01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:08.760
Happy Birthday Jacqueline Kim, actress who played ensin Demorris, Sulu

1816
01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:14.720
and Star Trek Generations. Oh who's on your birthday list?

1817
01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:18.880
Thank you, Charles. First of all, let's say happy birthday

1818
01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:23.319
to Melvin says our Belly, the young man in this

1819
01:52:23.479 --> 01:52:27.720
particular episode there who went on to become a professional attorney,

1820
01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:30.439
but was actually at one time a child actor who

1821
01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:32.880
played Steve O'Connell in the original series episode And the

1822
01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:36.600
Children Shall Lead. If that name sounds familiar, it's because

1823
01:52:36.720 --> 01:52:41.479
his father, Melvin Belli, was the legendary attorney who and

1824
01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:45.159
sometimes actor who played the evil Angel in that same episode.

1825
01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:48.279
So we got two Melvin bellyes going on and the

1826
01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:51.239
children shall lead. This is the birthday of the younger

1827
01:52:51.720 --> 01:52:55.359
of the two. Happy birthday goes out to phenomenally cool

1828
01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:59.760
Adrian Holmes, the actor who plays Admiral Robert April on

1829
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:02.760
Star Trek Strange New Worlds. Always cool when we see

1830
01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:06.479
a April come on the scene and hopefully more coming

1831
01:53:06.560 --> 01:53:10.399
up in season three. Happy birthday to Sam Anderson, who

1832
01:53:10.560 --> 01:53:14.600
played the assistant manager of the hotel in the Next

1833
01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:18.239
Generation second season episode The Royal. That is not him

1834
01:53:18.279 --> 01:53:21.319
on this screen, that is Adrian Holmes. So there we are,

1835
01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:24.239
there you are, sir. Yeah, great character actress Sam Anderson

1836
01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:28.119
always plays that kind of nervous, kind of caught off

1837
01:53:28.199 --> 01:53:31.239
guard kind of character there, but very cool. Great to

1838
01:53:31.279 --> 01:53:34.279
see him their Happy birthday, Sam Anderson. And of course,

1839
01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:37.920
keeping that Next Generation love going on, we have the

1840
01:53:38.039 --> 01:53:42.800
absolutely lovely English American actress Marina Cyrtus, who we all know,

1841
01:53:42.920 --> 01:53:45.760
of course for best known for playing Council of Deanna

1842
01:53:45.840 --> 01:53:49.800
Troy on Next Gen. She later embodied the character in

1843
01:53:50.199 --> 01:53:53.720
Star Trek Films as well as Voyager the series finale

1844
01:53:53.800 --> 01:53:57.760
of Enterprise Lower Decks and I think very memorably coming

1845
01:53:57.840 --> 01:54:01.560
back again to play Deanna try on the final season

1846
01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:06.079
of Star Trek Beguard. So yeah, I've done a lot

1847
01:54:06.079 --> 01:54:09.359
of great work on there. I think it's really great

1848
01:54:09.399 --> 01:54:11.239
to see what she did with that character. You watched

1849
01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:14.399
the first season episodes of Deanna Troy and Man, they

1850
01:54:14.479 --> 01:54:16.439
did not give her much to work with, but she

1851
01:54:16.560 --> 01:54:18.119
hung in there and she built the character up to

1852
01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:22.760
be a interesting human being and a real great flair

1853
01:54:22.840 --> 01:54:25.359
for comedy as well. So Marina Serratus, we salute you,

1854
01:54:26.079 --> 01:54:28.880
and let's pass that over to Uncle Jim around us.

1855
01:54:28.840 --> 01:54:33.560
Out absolutely, thank you so much. Paul. My first birthday

1856
01:54:33.640 --> 01:54:37.640
goes out to an actress who was in Star Trek Beyond,

1857
01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:42.119
and I don't see her up on the screen.

1858
01:54:41.880 --> 01:54:42.960
There there not there.

1859
01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:47.960
She is Sophia Boutella, who played Jayla in Star Trek Beyond.

1860
01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:50.439
I think she's one of the highlights of that movie.

1861
01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:53.399
Loved her character and she's been in some great stuff

1862
01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:56.840
as well. Happy birthday to Sophia Butella and I always

1863
01:54:56.920 --> 01:55:01.800
say the Klingons for last and scenes to how I

1864
01:55:01.960 --> 01:55:05.720
picked Duras as one of my favorites. We want to

1865
01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:09.560
say happy birthday to Rick Piscloni, who played Trol, the

1866
01:55:09.760 --> 01:55:12.680
son of Duras and Star Trek Deep Space nine's episode

1867
01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:16.560
Sword of Kless, which brings me to the question of

1868
01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:20.159
should Wharf had killed him when he had the chance?

1869
01:55:20.439 --> 01:55:22.680
I don't know, maybe that'll be a future poll question.

1870
01:55:23.319 --> 01:55:26.359
And that wraps up our birthdays, guys, and we don't

1871
01:55:26.359 --> 01:55:27.960
have a lot of time here, so we're gonna jump

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right to one of our new stories that we're gonna

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have Paul do, and that is our Nacelle has released

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some whole new images of their line Phase two, and Paul,

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we're gonna let you jump right in and David slide

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show ready for you.

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Let's jump in there, fellas and talk about it because

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Nassell's really kind of blew everyone's mind with that first

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wave that they had, right, I mean, just nuts, going

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deep to the bench and picking characters you might not

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expect to be part of an action figure line. And

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they just teased the second wave and it's pretty wild

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and we might need to get all of them. So

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Nasceell Toy Company is showing more of their upcoming excellent

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Star Trek toys and they've broken away from the very

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strange history and are now delivering figures on a level

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that fans have been asking for for a long long

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long time. At a panel at this weekend's wonder Con

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down in Anaheim, California, the head of the toy company,

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Brian Volkweiss, was actually there with our guest Nicholas Meyer,

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director of Rathla Khan and Star Trek six The Undiscovered Country.

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Very cool to have that level of massive enthusiasm there.

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And here's what they've got. First of all, they've showed

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us these great images of Captain Kirk has seen from

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his appearance in Star Trek Generations. Holy moly, he not

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only comes with the jar of Dill Whedon and acts

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in a shopping block, but a whole full sized horse.

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It's crazy. I mean, it's really elaborate. They really are

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making a name for themselves by going uh, heavy, heavy

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heavy with the deep cut character choices, but also with

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the accessories. Really amazing. Uh, mister Weiss, please come on

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our show and talk to us about it. We would

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absolutely love to talk about these with you, But here

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we go. Second season second wave excuse me of figures

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includes Captain Catherine Janeway from the Voyager episode Year of Hell. Okay,

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We're you know, basically, I guess would you call it

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ripped Janeway?

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Eric is that fair.

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I think with the you know, the sleeveless looks that

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you try to kick your ass, I would say for sure, absolutely, yeah, definitely.

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We've got a Star Trek Deep Space nine character, a

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nog from later on in the run when he's in

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his uh there we go where he's in his uniform,

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Captain Janeway. I like that look on you. Yeah, it

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looks looking pretty cool there to Paul from Star Trek Enterprise,

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which is great. We've seen Paul characters before that were

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a bit you know, earlier in the technology of the

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ex Figure Kingdom, so having a little bit more appropriately

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sculpted to Paul would be quite lovely. I think that

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would be great. And then we've got Valerius, which is

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great from speaking of Star Trek six from the Undiscovered Country.

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That is really cool. So very excited to see what

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she comes with. As far as accessories, I could not

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be happy about this next one. Mark Lenard is the

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Romulin Commander. We were talking about him earlier the night

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in the poll and wow, legit, after all these years

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Romulin commander figure. That's pretty amazing. Very excited about that.

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Carol Marcus from Wrath of Khan, so we had a

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lot of wrath of Khan love on there, which I

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think explains Nicholas Myers being on that panel, which is great.

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Carol Marcus super cool love interest and mother of David Marcus,

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which is great. And then we have a couple of

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interesting cuts from Generations again where we actually have two

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sailor uniform versions of Next Generation crew. We have both

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Wharf in his sailor uniform and we have Jordi LaForge

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in his sailor uniform from Generations. So see, we're going

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all over the place with our love here for the

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various aspects of Star Trek, but none of them is

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as deep a cut as this one. All right, we

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are basically getting an animated series character Bem from that

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right who was I don't even know if he was credited,

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but James Dewin did the voice of Bem on that episode.

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This one must disassemble, very poignant, and I still remember that.

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So the fact that they're doing animated series characters cub blam,

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oh my mind is blown. Really amazing and super deep

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cut there from Nacelle God. I'd love to have someone

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ideally very vocal president of the company, Brian vote Weiss,

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come on, our show and talked to us about all

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these characters and maybe reveal some more things. But they're

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really going crazy. And the fact that they're showing us

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Wave two of ten entire new characters right on the

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heels of Wave one, which haven't even come out yet

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we went up from re order pretty is astonishing. I

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mean it really is. They really seem to be going

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guns blazing, So Brian volkweise really amazing. Please count our show.

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We would love to be able to discuss more of

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these and salute you for your daring choices, sir, so

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very cool. Who's got our next news story tonight? Uncle Jim,

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what do you want to go with?

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Well, I think we're going to have to wrap things

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up at this point. It's just about nine point thirty.

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I just wanted to squeeze that one in because that one.

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I did just for you. Well, thank you, sir, I

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appreciate what that. I wanted to make sure enthusiasm getting kindled,

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so you're very kind.

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Yeah, I want to.

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Get a little late started with today. We had a

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lot of crazy technical stuff there to start, got us

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a little delayed, and we all got very excited about

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strange new worlds so a lot to say this week.

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Yep, that's not a problem at all. We'll just bump

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these stories up to next week. They're not really time

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sensitive to begin with. All right, guys, Well, that wraps

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up our podcast. Next week we're going to be talking

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about Strange and Not Strange the Worlds Lower Decks, the

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comic book series from IDW issues number two and three

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on Comic Corner. So I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim,

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and I want to say thank you so much to

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David for hanging out with us tonight and all the

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technical difficulties he made it through. Thank you, David, You're welcome.

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That was getting a little frustrated. I thought I had

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to bow out tonight, but I made it. I came back.

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He made it. And thank you so much to Paul

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for hanging out in trek talking with us as well.

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Thank you, Paul.

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There's a lot of news this week, a lot of

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stuff going on, and it was really fun to talk

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about acting and get in here and delve into the

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craft of the performance a bit, so really fun. Thanks

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for humoring me with that idea, guys, And I'm glad

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we were able to pull it together. I thought it

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was very interesting. I'd love to hear everyone's variety of choices.

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Very cool.

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And David did an excellent job with the slide shows.

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Even though we had some technical difficulties, he pulled it off.

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He's a miracle worker for sure. And thank you so

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much to Eric for hanging out in Trek talking with

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us tonight. Thank you so much, Eric, You beg guys.

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Thanks and of course thank you to Charles for hanging

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out with us as well. Palm trees swaying in the background.

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Thank you Charles, and thank.

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You Jim, and thank you all the hosts for an

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interesting conversation.

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I'm your excellent host, Uncle Jim saying that hailing frequencies

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are closed. Star Trek fans are the best fans.

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You better believe that.

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Please, everybody, stay safe and be good to each other.

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Good night, good night, long and prosper peace out.

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Ready for the parture shore.

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Some problem?

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RCA just hoping this isn't the usual way of missions

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will go.

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Said, Oh, no, number one, I'm sure it most will

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be much more interesting. Let's see what's out there

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Than