March 9, 2025

Episode 626- Ben Robinson Master Replicas

Episode 626- Ben Robinson Master Replicas

In this engaging conversation, Uncle Jim and his cohosts interviews Ben Robinson, a prominent figure in the Star Trek franchise and toy manufacturing. They discuss Ben's extensive background, including his work on the Star Trek graphic novel collection, the transition of Eagle Moss, and the creation of the Haynes manuals. Ben shares insights into the future of Star Trek merchandise, the challenges of toy manufacturing, and his family's legacy in the film industry. The conversation also touches on exciting new figures and the complexities of acquiring rights for merchandise, particularly for iconic franchises like Blade Runner. In this engaging conversation, Ben discusses the exciting developments in the collectible industry, particularly related to Star Trek and other franchises. He shares insights on the evolution of collectibles, the impact of LEGO's changing strategy, and his favorite episodes across various Star Trek series. The discussion also touches on the future of action figures and the importance of fan engagement in driving product development. Let's see what's out there...ENGAGE

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In this engaging conversation, Uncle Jim and his Treksperts interviews Ben Robinson, a prominent figure in the Star Trek franchise and toy manufacturing. They discuss Ben's extensive background, including his work on the Star Trek graphic novel collection, the transition of Eagle Moss, and the creation of the Haynes manuals. Ben shares insights into the future of Star Trek merchandise, the challenges of toy manufacturing, and his family's legacy in the film industry. The conversation also touches on exciting new figures and the complexities of acquiring rights for merchandise, particularly for iconic franchises like Blade Runner. In this engaging conversation, Ben discusses the exciting developments in the collectible industry, particularly related to Star Trek and other franchises. He shares insights on the evolution of collectibles, the impact of LEGO's changing strategy, and his favorite episodes across various Star Trek series. The discussion also touches on the future of action figures and the importance of fan engagement in driving product development. Let's see what's out there...ENGAGE!

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So everybody, let's.

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Go about the series. You calling us live up your phone,

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now about the series I'm coming to you on three services.

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Now we talk about the series, Come Books, the Ross

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Coming tell us as we sit in.

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Jem Well, good morning trekkies and trekkers around the globe.

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I'm not used to saying that because usually we're not

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on with you guys on Sunday morning. But in this

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case we made an exception because we have a very

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special guest with us right here live in the studio.

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We have Ben Robinson and I tried to go to

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the IMD page and break it down, so if I

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miss anything that when I'm about to introduce you, I apologize.

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There was a lot there, but basically Hanes Publishing sought

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advice on creating the USS Enterprise Owner's Manual, and Ben

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wrote the manual and it's entirely Subsequently, he authored much

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of the follow up publication, the Klingon Bird of Prey

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Owners Manual. He was employed by Eagle Moss Publishing a

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senior project manager. His ultimate title at Eagle Moss was

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that of Editorial Manager of Global Developments. He also saw

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the Star Trek Graphic novel Collection, star Trek Discovery, the

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Official Starships Collection, star Trek, the official bus collection, star

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Trek Online, Star Trek Collection, Star Trek Universe, the Official

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Starships Collection, star Trek the Next Generation Build, the USS

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Enterprise seventeen oh one D and Star Trek Lower Decks,

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the official Starships collection for Eagle Moss Heroes Collector. On

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February ninth, twenty twenty four, he was announced as being

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hired as the new senior brand minute Manager for Master Replicas,

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and he's also taking over as and getting rid of

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the remainder of the Eagle Moss stock I think I

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got everything, Ben.

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No, no, no, my close. So you missed out for

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the first fifteen years.

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There's just so much there.

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Way back when, back in ninety seven, I started on

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something called the Star Trek Fact Files didn't get published

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in the US in that form. But then I was

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the editor of the Star Trek magazine this one here

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for five years and interviewed loads of people and their

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friends with loads of people back then. So and then

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there were a couple of things like DVD collections in

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France and Japan that nobody knew about and obviously master

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because we just noted the action figures, and a new

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line of small ships. And I wrote that shelf back then,

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the Star Trek books. So the ones I'm particularly proud

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of are the two Star Trek Celebration volumes. And I

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co wrote Yeah, And I co wrote Dan Curry's book

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Artistry of Dan Curry, and edited No Visitors book Open Channel.

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And I've probably forgotten a few things, but that's kind

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of the bulk of it.

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When I looked at your peer, I was like, Wow,

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how there's just so much here that goes back decades

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and decades that trying to cut that down to a

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paragraph was difficult. And I apologize for missing some stuff.

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Nothing to apologize for. I apologize for having taken touch

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of it was money.

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No, wow, So you know I wanted to ask you.

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Paul is our resident toy expert, so I'm going to

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leave a lot of the toy questions for Paul. Uh

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So I'm gonna I'm gonna stand clear of that. But

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I wanted to ask you about your involvement in the

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Star Trek graphic novel collection. I have all of those,

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and I wanted to ask how you how you got

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involved in that and what it was like going through

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all those old classic comics and compiling them.

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So that was so God.

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This is a long, complicated way getting the story. Evamos

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was principally a subscription company when it started out, so

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they were always looking for things that be collected. Other

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companies had done very successful Marvel graphic non collection. We've

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done a very successful DC one which I did, and inevitably,

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because we had such a good reputation with Star Trek,

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the idea of doing a Star Trek one came up. What,

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of course, is interesting about the history of Star Trek

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comics is, until relatively recently, it was incredibly varied. So

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if you look at the number of different companies that

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have had the rights over the years, it's like you're

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going to Marvel Clay, you get Marvel doing it, you

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get DC doing it, you gold Key. Before that that,

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you have the companies names slipping in my mind, and

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I know the guy who set it up. So there

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was a lot of very different Star Trek, Comic Graphic,

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Nobil publishing or comic book publishing. And one of the

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really interesting things was trying to pull it all together

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and to make it what you know, as comprehensive a

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collection as we could.

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So that was.

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Yeah, there was a lot of research went in so

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that I hadn't read, you know, on and off over

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the years, but I didn't have a comprehensive knowledge of it.

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And Rich Handby is the man who does, and we

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brought him in to help us. I think probably a

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little later in the day that we should have done.

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But that's the short version of that one.

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Well, one of the things that I really liked about

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that collection, as you just said, is it included DC, Marvel,

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gold Key, pretty much all of them are wrapped into

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one collection, which is why I subscribe to it.

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Yeah, I mean that was the goal. I mean, that's

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always the goal with these things, is to to bring

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things together to give people some kind of insight that

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they haven't had before and to make everything uniform as well.

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I think you know we all have I presume we

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all have that collecting instinct where you know, we like

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things to match. We like a nice shelf, nice shelf

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full of matching things and get annoyed when the books change,

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hype all of that kind of stuff. So yeah, they

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that was the idea, was to bring it into a

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kind of bore, unified collection that it had been available before, and.

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It worked beautifully. I also I wanted to ask you

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about the Eagle Mass collection and all they stopped and

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now you started back up again. But there's a new collection,

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and I'm confused with the new minute. The new collection

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is that part of Eagle Mass or is that something different?

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So Eagle Loss went bankrupt, so not because of the

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Star Trek stuff at all, but because it was a

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company transitioning from one business model to another. And you

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know that the owners were very keen to sell the company,

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and they didn't day over over invested in stock and

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took took some risks they should have done. And after

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Eagle Mass, all the rights that Eagle Moss had kind

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of reverted to Paramount and they had the right technically

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they had the right sort along. So the first company

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they signed was to Egstini or Planeta, who operate under

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the banner fan Home, and they brought me into help

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develop those ships for them. So those ones are the

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kind of nine inch ones, nine or ten inch ones,

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and I've been doing that for them and we're chugging

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along quite nicely on that. But what there wasn't at

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that point was the original kind of Eagle Moss scale,

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the kind of smaller ships in that kind of four

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or five inch kind of range and master replicas where

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I was working at a lot of success selling off

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the old Eaglemos stock at that size, and they managed

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to get Paramount to give them those rights. So for

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a long time it was only only fan Home I

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had the rights, but in the last few months that

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to change. So now it's going to be a new

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line of smaller ships that are obviously with everything we do,

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we try to do something that's a continuation of what's

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gone before rather than a replacement. So it's going to

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concentrate on ships that were never released at that scale.

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Excellent, And you know I have one more question before

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I pass you along. I love the the Haines manuals,

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and of course the kling On Bird of Prey one

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is sitting right here on my shelf, and I wanted

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to ask about, you know, working on that. You know,

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where did you get all the information? And it's a

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pretty in depth book. So where did you work with

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Mark o'krand, I mean, how did that come about?

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So?

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Well?

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What happened was that Haines approached Paramount about doing a

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Haines Enterprise manual and I happened to be in New

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York and met with them and I said, you know,

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I can probably find someone told write this for you,

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but I'm to be honest, I am probably the best

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person to do it. And I then ended up doing that.

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It's free lance and it was a big success, and

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they came back and they wanted to do another one.

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But the difference between the Enterprise and the Bird of

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Prey is there is a lot of There are a

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lot of enterprises, and there's a lot of information about

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those different enterprises. When it came to the Bird of Prey,

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there was a lot of information that had to be

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filled in. So I called Rick Sturnback and put this

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to him and we worked together to try and fill

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those gaps in so you know, a bird of Prey

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doesn't have warp mis cells, so how does that work?

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Or you know, how does the cloaking device work. So

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we worked with a three D model called Ed Giddings

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as well, who actually ended up doing a lot of

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work at Eagle Masters as well and still don't work

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for me Master replicas actually, and we built, we created

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the sets. Rick filled in the kind of technical stuff

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of the rooms that we've never seen, so you know,

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we've never seen a Klingon Bird of Prey engineering room

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on the Green, but where it came up with the

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concept for the for the book, which we had then illustrated,

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and I then kind of filled in some of the

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gaps about kind of the kind of cultural stuff I guess,

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and that involved like really exhaustive study over every episode,

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every reference that had ever been made, and trying to

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pull it together and then just fill in a bit

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of the connective tissue, which actually was great fun, still

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very you know, and I tried to tie into kind

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of historical presidents on Earth. So you know, when I

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was talking about how the Klingon the sort of navy

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as it were, was arranged, I kept thinking about Peter

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the Great and how that was done, and I, you know,

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I loved the idea that there's like a kind of

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architect guy who has to design the ship and then

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all these these Klingon warlords are coming to him and

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saying I want all these guns and they're like, well

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if you have all those guns, it won't fly, and

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having to negotiate and get that kind of stuff together.

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And then the best thing about that was the actually

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I didn't know this was going to happen, is that

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the clicking device which redesigned Rick and I designed for

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the Haines Manual turned up in Star Truck the card.

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Dave Blast actually went and made it cannon. So that

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was a that was a nice moment.

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Well, I got to say that's one of my favorite

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reference books, and thank you so much for all the

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time and effort you put into producing that for kling

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On fans such as myself. Thank you.

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Call Wow.

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And I'm going to turn you over to Paul because

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I know he's chomping at the bit to talk to you.

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So Paul, the mic is yours.

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Chomping at the bit doesn't even begin to cover it.

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My friend, Ben, this is an incredible treat for me

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to be able to get a chance to do to

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you and ask you some questions. Terrible admission. If the

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amount of plastics someone had generated that one was responsible

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for in somebody's house could be represented in terms of

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like their ownership of your house, you probably you had

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to have a third mortgage on me here, my friend. So,

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I mean I've been going all the way back because

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you were with like Eagle moss On like the Bond car.

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so nobody cares about this, But I originally worked for

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a company called Midsimer Books who packaged. He did the

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editorial work for a company called G Fabrie, and G

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Fabrie was a company that did the book.

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That's right, I remember those, yeah.

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And the big build up dB five as well, which

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is still my proudest achievement, I think.

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But my I'm just you know, the unrepentant collector sadly right,

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I mean, just you know, the library back here has

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got a ton of your books in it. I've got

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like all the Bond stuff, the Batman part Work Car series,

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and just you know everything that Star Trek related. That's

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so many things that I've got on my displays that

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you know, we would just never have if not for

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like Eagle Moss to have a Nomad probe model, never

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would have had that, if not for all of you, right,

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never would have had that. And when you move from

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the smaller ships up to the bigger like six eight

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inch styleships, yeah, ten inches yeah, ten inches yeah. And

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then I'm like, okay, well, finally we can stop wishing.

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And then they're like, oh no, now we're going to

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go into Battlestar Galactica. Oh no, you think you're done.

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Oh no, now we're going to go into the expanse right.

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And you know, I'm like, I think I've got my

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Rosinante and I'm happy. But Ben's like, oh no, you

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need an XL Rosinante, right, And it just keeps happening.

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So it's been great, man, and just phenomen I think,

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bringing us things that we've never had before, or never

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even really in some cases dared to think that we

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would ever see. You've dug in and been able to

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produce and guide into being, and it's phenomenal. And what

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I don't know if the other tr experts may know Ben,

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but Ben the same From Fantasy Film Royalty. A right,

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I mean you really really do. I mean my information

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will such sometimes sketchy, I admit, but says that your

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grandfather was the legendary Bernard Robinson, who was the production

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designer for most of the most infamous Hammer horror films

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from the late fifties to early sixties. Please tell me

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I'm not wrong about this.

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Oh no, you're not wrong at all. That was Yes,

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that was absolutely what my grandfather did. And I'm sitting

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you can't see this, but I am sitting at his

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drawing desk, his drawing type of where he designed Dragoner

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and Frankenstein.

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In so amazing, amazing. I was a picture that like

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when you were a small boy, the Christopher Lee is

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hanging out at your house.

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Sadly, my grandfather died when I was a baby. I

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did meet Christopher Lee, though, and this is why, you know,

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I told this story somebody times. But so my grandmother

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who met my grandfather, who's my step grandmother, She met

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my grandfather because she was making bats for a drag

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tler and she sort of dragged dragged Christopher lea out

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of a conversation said, oh, my grandson is dying to

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talk to you. And I was sort of slightly embarrassed,

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but I was I just said, you know, I wanted

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to thank you because you was meant to my grandfather,

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which he did. And as I was talking to him,

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I could see this man hovering over his shoulder, and

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it eventually dawned on me that the man who was

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hovering was Dave Proud. So I was talking to Dragular

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and stopping Darth Vader from joining the conversation.

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Fantastic man, bedtastic. But what a what a lineage? What

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a lineage? Is just amazing And just you know, as

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Jim was saying, going over your CV, you apparently just

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never sleep. I mean, you were just posturally constantly moving

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from one area to the next. And I think if

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you cut your finger on camera, Star Trek would bleed out.

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I mean, you've just been so immersed in that franchise.

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You're you know, you're as long as I can fathom.

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So just amazing.

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Eight years I think I've been working on Star Track.

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Now that's a terrible confession.

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Wow, that's a lot of enthusiasm though, but has not waned.

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I have to say, I'm you know, a lot of

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the people, I'm very fortunate and a lot of people

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who work on the show became my friends. So I

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was talking Tonna A Lottle earlier this week, and I

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talked to the hand all the time. And you know,

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I'm very fond of Ara Bear in particular, but a

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lot of other people I've you know, I've been fortunate

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enough to call my friend Johnny's it's one of my

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best friends. I mean, you know, there's fantastic people.

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You know, And just for everyone who may not have been,

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as you know, well versed in Ben's products, you know,

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throughout the years and things, it's just like every time,

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at least from my experience, has been when anything comes

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through the old Eagle Mass Channel or the Master Replicas

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or whatever it may be, quality level is never something

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you have to worry about, right, And things are so

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meticulously well overseen, and the designs are just splendid and

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they're built to last and just really good quality merchandise,

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I mean, and just stuff no one else would ever deliver,

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and to delivered with a lot of passion. So I

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just think it's amazing what you've done, so incredible incredible

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appreciation from this corner of fandom, sir.

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Thank you. I hope we continue to make you happy.

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There's a lot more to common.

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Well, I'm very very excited. It's pretty new news, right,

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But it's just like for you know, I think you know,

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I mean, there's just always a large ass of Star

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Wars merchandise out there, right, most of us see that.

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But when you're a Star Trek collector, it's feast or famine, right,

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And you will go years sometimes where nothing comes and

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you're like, okay, well, you know, and a lot of

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people have attempted to go deep with the with producing

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Star Trek action figures, and you know, they get a

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little bit out of the station and they don't really

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ever build up any velocity. I mean, it's I don't

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think I'm missing anything in my playmate's Star Trek collection.

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I mean it's it's pretty deep. And they went nuts,

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they really did. I mean, they produced so many variety

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of characters, right, and that scale and that design of characters.

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Big fan of that, and I think a lot of

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us were really hopeful when Playmates re emerged to start

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producing them again a couple of years ago, and then

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baffled at what happened, right, And I don't know if

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at some point you want to weigh in on your

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perspective of that, but yeah, character choices that they launch with, well,

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there is that.

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But I think it's more than anything, it's a business

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model thing. So if you are a traditional toy manufacturer,

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you are trying to sell a very high volume and

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you're trying to appeal to kids, and good or bad.

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Star Trek is an aging demographic. You could look at

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the five of Us here or in None of Us

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seventeen and it's a collector market rather than a kind

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of mass market toy brand. And I think the problem

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is that a lot of companies that come in have

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tried to do this, have tried to do it in

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a kind of traditional toy way where you know, you

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go to Warmot or Target to get these things and

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they're as cheap as they can be, you know, And

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the problem is if you're competing for shelf space with

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WWE and Star Wars, you know, it's just really tough.

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So what we're trying to do is change the business model.

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So saying look, we're going to make these overuse phrase,

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but you know they're by fans for fans. We're going

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to make them specifically for fans, we're not going to

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try to pull in a casual audience. That means they

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have to be a little more expensive, and that's why,

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and they'll sell in smaller numbers, but that will only

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make them more collectible, and you basically have to buy

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them online. They may turn up in a few places.

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But and that business model we hope, which is the

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business model we used for the ships, is sustainable and

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not ridiculously over ambitious. And as long as enough people

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sign up and we get the kind of enthusiasm and

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passion that we hope for with any lot, we'll be

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able to go on forever.

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Fantastic, fantastic. But it's just it was such a surprise

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to me, right because I think a lot of people

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were initially a little trepiditious during that transition period where

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it's just like, okay, here's Master Replicas. What will happen?

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Will they be able to produce things that we'd heard

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earlier would come and then you you know, frankly, I

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think Master Replicas is over delivered right in terms of

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what's been made available. It's just been Wow, look at

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all this stuff, Look at all these things that are

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coming out, and then we're just like a new Star

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Trek figures, I mean OZ and then the first I'm

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trying to remember how many you initially showed, like six

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seven different months, I know a lot from the latter

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season of a card. And then the two lower decks

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figures and they look amazing and they're they're scaled with

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the Playmates figures. Yes, right, so you can put them

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on the same shelf and you know, and have some

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like you were talking about my book spines must be

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the same height. I mean, that's that's fantastic. To be

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able to take the older figures and the new figures

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and display them together is kind of a fantastic thing.

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And so it's like we've got I'm frankly really excited

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about this particular line of figures just because of that

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scale is just I think that's a sweet spot scale.

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And there are just so many unproduced figures from the

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Playmates never got into. They did a lot of great things.

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I mean, they gave us like a Magato, they gave

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us you know, Telosian. They did some great things, you

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know from you know especially you know, I'm a big

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original series guy, right because that's you know, you know,

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seven eight years old watching Devil in the Dark for

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the first time, getting all traumatized, right, I mean, I

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think it kind of messes with you. But I think

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there's a lot of stuff, and I'm sure David might

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have some examples here of classic characters that we never

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got that I think a lot of us still kind

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of hope at some point that we might see And

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I don't know if well, for.

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The moment, our rights only start with Discovery, so we

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can do Telusian, we can do Veena because they turned

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up on Discovery. But there's more than enough to do

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for the modern show. And you know, I think one

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would hope expects that more classic stuff will turn up

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on Strange New Worlds as well. Yeah, well, we can

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do Pike. We do Pike. Our Pike will have to

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be a little bit more disturbed than that, because you'll

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do the.

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Pike from Strange New world or from Discovery.

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Exactly, Yeah, exactly exactly. And you know, I don't think

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we'll be meeting the end one thirteen creature. I do

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you kind of hope we're going to see the ancient

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ones on Strange New Worlds. It kind of feels like

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we should.

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Because we're seeing Roger.

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So yeah, so that would be amazing. I mean if

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the if Strange New World because if as a version

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of Rock I would be over the moon. I think

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that would be one.

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He's an android. They could be thousands of him out there.

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Yeah. Yeah, So I think we just put this together

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just as a to kind of just illustrate a really

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deep bench of all classic figures that we just never see. Right, Yeah,

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it would be.

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I hope eventually our right might extend to that, but

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for the moment, for the moment, you'll have to make

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do with the hundreds of characters that we can do

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from Strange New Worlds, Decks, Prodigy, yeah, Section thirty one

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even so, and stuff like Academy. So you know, there's

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there's a there's a better stuff to get through. I

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think going back to what you were saying about about Playmates,

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I think that was really important to me was that

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this was you know, inevitably every time a new company

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comes in and you're kind of starting over. But I thought, well, look,

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there are a load of guys who have a load

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of Playmates figures, and they don't want to get another

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version of those characters. They don't need another another Kirk

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another spot though, of course they can have another Kirk

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and the spot, they'll just be the Strategy World's ones.

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But you know, they need something that's new, that's different,

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but that goes along with what they've already got, so

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that that was very much the plan. It's like, okay,

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let's let's add to what you've got rather than replace it.

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And we have some very ambitious plans for playsets that

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I can't quite reveal yet.

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But thing I seem to remember reading somewhere though that

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one of the first ones you were going to be

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doing was a rock talk figure from from Prodigy.

467
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Yeah, rock top from Prodigy. I think we probably do

468
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:14.559
Hologram Janeway first, just because will have to be a special.

469
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.119
Because those are the ones we wanted that Playmates dropped

470
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.279
the ball on. I mean, they just you know, they're

471
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.759
here's coming. I mean, I think everybody even pre ordered

472
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:27.160
Hologram Jane Way and then I'm sorry, we still have

473
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:30.759
the you know, all you know picards sitting on shelves

474
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.160
at Target that no one's buying, right, like you were saying,

475
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.559
you know, it's just it's a brick and mortar curse.

476
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.920
Yeah, but yeah, and so I mean, obviously the idea

477
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.400
is to kind of fill in the gaps. So for

478
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:44.519
Prodigy it would be you know, it's the characters they

479
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.279
didn't get to, so it is Hologram, Janeway and rock

480
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:49.559
Top and Majell.

481
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:51.519
Fantastic.

482
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.880
Those are the that's where we'll start. I mean obviously, Well,

483
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.920
in the case of Prodigy, I think we probably will

484
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:08.319
come back and do a Jacob zero. So we will

485
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.720
go back and do those ones again, but you know,

486
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:13.960
we've got so much to get through.

487
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.599
Those lower decks. Figures are gonna fly, I hope, So

488
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.319
they are gonna have to fly. They looked amazing, I

489
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:24.559
mean really, and I think that there's a pretty substantial

490
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.759
hungry audience for for merch on that show that has

491
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.119
just not been delivered to And I think that when

492
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.559
when I saw those and they just popped when you

493
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:35.559
show them next to the Picard figures, right, They're just

494
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:39.119
they're phenomenal. They're just so good. It's like the literally

495
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.279
like the show has come to life in plastic.

496
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.799
You know that's easy. Yeah, I mean, they really lend

497
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:50.599
themselves to to that treatment. It's very satisfying. I'm wondering

498
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:52.400
if I can show you a picture. I just wonder

499
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:53.960
if I can do this without showing you pictures, I

500
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:54.599
shouldn't show you.

501
00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:58.279
Oh you can. You know no one watches this show, Ben,

502
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.759
come on, I mean it's it's fun. You can tell

503
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.279
us anything. I mean, we you know some guy and

504
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.079
like of Moss talk is watching.

505
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:05.480
That's it.

506
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.519
You know somebody like you know the reverse of my desk.

507
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:13.680
There are some Seriously, there are three really cool things

508
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.160
on my desk that I can't show you.

509
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.640
Nda is all these little things.

510
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:23.000
Yeah, make the announcement. We really need them to get

511
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:24.960
the biggest attention as possible.

512
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.000
Oh you know what, man, I would be remiss if

513
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.160
I didn't offer my sympathies for what happened at the

514
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.799
Nuremberg Toy Fair. Also, you guys were victimized in a

515
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.240
pretty scandalous way, and I know that that probably really

516
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.720
threw any No one ever expects anything like that to happen.

517
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.319
But what a monkey right in Germany?

518
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.920
I have to say, yeah, I mean that's something that

519
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.000
I can't talk about. Well, I can't talk about what

520
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:55.920
was starting because we haven't announced what it is. But

521
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:04.599
there's there's a there's something incredible unexpected to come cling

522
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:10.559
that's of kling Nah even more well, kind of in

523
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:16.680
the way you're expecting. In the way you're expecting. I

524
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:20.920
really can't tell you. It's just so after the unexpected.

525
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:23.839
Excellent And how how long do you figure it will

526
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.599
be before we know what that unexpected thing is? Is

527
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:28.759
there a neat on your calendar that you can share

528
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:29.240
with that it.

529
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.319
Would have been this month, but partially because of what

530
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.519
happened in Nuremberg and past. Because we're waiting on some

531
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:39.920
people in Hollywood, it's probably next month. Maybe that's the

532
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.160
problem is you don't want to take people, Oh, look,

533
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:43.440
this is coming, and then it's like, well I don't

534
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:47.240
but I don't know when you know, And it's just honestly,

535
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.079
you will never guess it. You may all go, uh,

536
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:55.880
why are they doing that? But yeah, there's something coming

537
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:56.799
that's just silly.

538
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:00.920
We keep our eyes open, right, And it's like I've

539
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:05.400
been guilty of like stalking the Master Replica's Star Trek

540
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:08.720
page right where it shows the two icons for figures

541
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.759
for March, and yeah, like you know when of those

542
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:13.160
come up?

543
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:13.319
Man?

544
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.039
When do I see which one must will be?

545
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.119
Let me just see if I can show you something.

546
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:24.440
Okay, Yeah, I'm just trying to show you a picture

547
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.519
of the lower dex ones, but I have to click

548
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.440
loads of things, keep talking, keep saying interesting time.

549
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:32.960
Well, I just I'm excited to see what those will be.

550
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:39.880
I'm assuming they'll be figures from March that you've that

551
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:40.920
you've teased already.

552
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:43.680
There are some figures coming in March, but there are

553
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.119
things that I can't the things I can't tell you

554
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:48.920
about unexpected.

555
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.720
Sure, are you what do you expect the cadence to

556
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.079
be in terms of like how often you announce new

557
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:59.559
new every month? Y? Yeah, that is that is good news,

558
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:01.400
my friend. That is great news because I think that

559
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.359
that's I hate to harp on playmates, right because I

560
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.480
think you know, but uh, you know they had one

561
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:10.640
and done with that wave, right and everyone was like,

562
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.079
what are you going to show us what's coming? Show

563
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:13.759
us what's coming? And we never got to look at

564
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.720
what you know, future plans were going to be, right

565
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:17.599
and uh and so we never and then it just

566
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.240
died on the vine. So just knowing that there's going

567
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:26.960
to be that, you know, a more vivid frequency of God,

568
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.279
that's great and I think that keeps it where it's

569
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.839
you know, uh, affordable for collectors too. It's like, Okay,

570
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:35.920
I can, I can do two figures at that price

571
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.720
point and that's not going to kill me. It's like that,

572
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:39.960
you know. And like you said, you know, because it's

573
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.319
Collector Niche targeted, right, you should expect them to be

574
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.680
a little bit more expensive, right, I mean, because.

575
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.200
You know, and keep the price down as much as

576
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:50.519
we can.

577
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.319
But again, the quality, if if it's anything like the

578
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.119
quality of the vehicles that you've released in the past,

579
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:58.759
it's it's going to be extremely high. And uh, and

580
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.359
I'm just super, super super excited for those. So is

581
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.880
is there anything that you can tell us about your

582
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:12.000
particular wish list of things figure related in terms of

583
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:16.480
Star Trek that you're especially excited to see coming.

584
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.519
The two figures that we haven't done any work on yet,

585
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.160
but I'm most excited by it, and it are or

586
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:27.160
take us and the Hemmer. I don't know why, but

587
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:33.359
I really really want those figures. I mean that the

588
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:36.640
goal of the thing, I guess is to be comprehensive,

589
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:41.240
you know. That's that's the thing is. It's not just Okay,

590
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.880
here's Picard, Riker and Wolf. You know it's going to

591
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:51.720
be Here's Rot, here is here's Magell, you know, here's

592
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:57.920
t Len you know the that's the thing that kind

593
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.200
of gets me excited and and and like you said,

594
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:01.839
sometimes when something comes out, you just look at it

595
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.680
and go, oh that works. So all the lower deck stuff,

596
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.680
and unfortunately I can't. It's asking me to restart before

597
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.039
I No worries, No worries. I have a fantastic picture

598
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.680
of Marina Boimner and Tendy.

599
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.000
I don't think we've seen the Tendy figure yet that

600
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.680
I'm group.

601
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:25.039
But that's great, A little a little smaller group of them,

602
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:27.599
but yeah, Tendy is one. I think a lot of

603
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.000
people are very excited by attending.

604
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.839
I would be very happy to have a feline ships

605
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.799
doctor in my collection. I think there would be oh yeah.

606
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:39.599
I have all sorts of plans for Yeah, there are

607
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.240
some there are some cool things.

608
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.720
That will do well, that will be great. And Hearing

609
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:48.119
Hammer is a figure coming. Yeah, that's that's exactly that's

610
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:51.000
that that will be remarkable. So I love that. That's

611
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.799
where you're going. I think that's uh, you know, it's

612
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.680
just everyone's been hoping that strange New worlds would eventually

613
00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:00.240
find somebody who could do justice to it and so

614
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:04.880
super exciting, super exciting. I do want to veer off

615
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.960
Star Trek just briefly for one moment, because you know,

616
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.519
I've you know, I like to hear what's going on.

617
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.760
I'm always good, excited about what's coming soon, you know,

618
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.800
ear to the ground and stuff like that. And I

619
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.320
know there's a lot that you can't tell us. But

620
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:21.480
one of the things I heard recently that you did

621
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.920
get a hold of it in terms of you know, ips,

622
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:28.760
was that you've got some access to the license for

623
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.159
some obscure eighties film what is called again, guys, was

624
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.039
it Blade Runner? Was that what it was? I'm yeah, yeah,

625
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:40.280
that that somehow you've got Blade Runner, and that I

626
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:42.480
just about you know, Oh, I won't say what I did,

627
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:47.400
but I got very excited. I very excited, almost spit

628
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.519
my Pellegrino across the room. And I I think the

629
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.159
big question on everyone's minds is is like, okay, we've

630
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.840
we've everyone's got spinners here and there. You get a

631
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:01.880
spinner that someone's designing, that's great, but but we've never

632
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:07.679
really had legit figures before from Blade Runner. And I

633
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.039
know you may not be able to talk about that

634
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.719
if you can. I'm delighted.

635
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:16.440
Well, I can tell you that it's technically what we have.

636
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.400
The spin of we're doing is in twenty fourteen, is

637
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.000
in Blade Runner twenty forty nine, but is best known

638
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.599
for being in Blade Runner. The rights on the original

639
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:33.559
Blade Runner are incredibly complicated, and it's not that people

640
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.519
have them and won't give them to you. It's that

641
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.280
they have to. You have to go and get twenty

642
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.119
seven different people to sign up and go, you know what,

643
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:41.960
Actually I don't have any right, I don't care go

644
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:47.519
ahead and do it. So that is something that it

645
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.519
kind of have worked out how to do. I met

646
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.079
a man who knows how to do it, has done

647
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:58.920
it before. So it's funny you mentioned this because we

648
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:03.039
were just talking about our interest in Blade Runner twenty

649
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:09.199
ninety nine this last week, and obviously it's too early

650
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.079
for us to and well, we don't have the rights.

651
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:16.159
We're just trying to get the rights. So if that

652
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.000
goes well, I think our appetite for all things blade

653
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.320
Runner would be even greater than it is now.

654
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.800
Excellent. I think I'm reading your tea leaves, Ben.

655
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.280
The original film is a bit tricky.

656
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.159
It's a bit tricky, Super challenging, especially where a lot

657
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.079
of the cast are no longer with us, right, So yeah,

658
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:35.920
I gets three.

659
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.400
And you get into difficult contracts where it's like, well

660
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.480
does Ruca Howe's estate have rights? Does you know? What's

661
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.599
the situation? You know, and you get into things on

662
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:49.599
alien for example, you have to go and strike a

663
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.880
separate deal with Sigourney Weaver for her likeness. You know,

664
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.519
the studio didn't sign those rights from her. So that

665
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:05.960
is the potential difficulty with actual Blade Runner. But it

666
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:07.119
does sound like a good idea.

667
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.960
Oh, if you were able to deliver figures from the

668
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:13.320
original classic film, I think you would be parting the seas.

669
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.039
I mean people would be, you would be amazed at

670
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.480
It's still one of the holy grails I think of collectors,

671
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.480
especially in the six inch range. No one's pulled it

672
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:26.559
off right, and it would just be remarkable. But whatever

673
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:30.760
the the you know the secrets are that are coming.

674
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.320
Just just know, Ben, there's a very avid audience out

675
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:40.760
there excited to clicking pre order buttons with you. I have.

676
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.920
One of the cool things is Blade Runner related, and

677
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.239
it's right in front of me when I can't hold

678
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:48.800
it up in church.

679
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.679
But such a tease this guy.

680
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.960
It's in pretty good shape for the first sort of pass.

681
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:58.480
So I would hope that within the next couple of

682
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.719
months we will announce the thing that.

683
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.199
We would do for playing. Okay, very exciting, Well I am.

684
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.719
I'm just thrilled again at this opportunity to get a

685
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.559
little preview of things. And again, it's like a large

686
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.880
s right now. It's like we have the good fortune

687
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.639
of everything you're doing. Do you want to talk at all?

688
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.119
I mean it's I think there's a lot of room

689
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:21.039
for everyone, and a rising tide lifts all boats. Do

690
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.159
you want to weigh in on what Nassell's doing with

691
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:23.719
their line?

692
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:29.440
Yeah, I mean Brian Brian, who I got to know

693
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.960
a little bit after they featured the Eagle or stuff

694
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:38.000
on the Toys of Vaders. Brian Brian's a proper deep

695
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:43.079
cut star trek fan. I'm very interested that he's gone

696
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:47.480
as deep cut with the first half dozen figures as

697
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.960
he has. That's four if they announced to him. I'm

698
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.119
not a certainly seeen for sot forth in uh a

699
00:38:55.239 --> 00:39:03.119
new comic con. I think it's interesting. I hope that

700
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.280
they succeed and that that you know that they've they're

701
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.360
not too deep cut. I mean this comes from a man.

702
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.079
I mean I have been, you know, deeper in the

703
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:17.320
cut than most people. But you know, this is from

704
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:21.480
the man who made the main long garbage scout. But

705
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.039
I do hope, you know, I mean, I the Brian's

706
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.280
always been very nice to us, very kind. They were

707
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:32.079
very supportive to our release. A emailed me to congratulate me,

708
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.880
so you know, I wish them all the best. So obviously,

709
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.559
if you're going to make a choice, do you want those?

710
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.079
Yeah, I mean that's that's that's kind of it. And

711
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.960
he's going to be distributing in stores as well, isn't he?

712
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:53.119
Is he going to try to do that? I think

713
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:54.400
we just lost Benzardia.

714
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:56.480
Sorry, move the mic.

715
00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:02.159
There we go, we got you back. Yeah. Cool. Well,

716
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.519
I think there's a I think the market's going to

717
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:06.440
be thrilled for both. I think but you know, I mean,

718
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.719
I know where I hang my hat of allegiance, right

719
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.960
is I'm you know, I know, you know, bona fide

720
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.239
quantity from what I've seen, and this is going to

721
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.800
be quality is going to be great. So super excited.

722
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.280
I feel like I've like been sucking all the air

723
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:21.519
out of the room here though, Ben, I want to

724
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.320
make sure that our other trexperts get a second here,

725
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.719
and I hear something going off downstairs. I just need

726
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.159
to go adjust, so let me pass the I don't

727
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.000
know what it is, a tea kettle or something. I'm

728
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:35.119
not sure, but I'll check it and pass this over

729
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.920
to to perhaps Charles or David for a second. I

730
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:39.960
know they must have some wonderful questions as well.

731
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:43.480
Yeah, I think we're going to go to David.

732
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:49.159
I think, okay, cool, Hi, welcome to our show, and

733
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.239
a pleasure to have you on here. So yeah, I

734
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:55.199
don't know if this is related to you at all

735
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.400
or anything, but I were curious if you know anything

736
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:03.320
about what had been going on with the Lego di

737
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:06.079
tractor had been coming out. Have you gotten any work

738
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:06.760
on that at all?

739
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.800
Or I don't know any more than than anybody else.

740
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:12.920
What I do know with Lego is they are a

741
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:17.760
very important toy manufacturer that is a big deal having

742
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.559
a Lego license, and that for a long time they

743
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:27.039
were very selective about about what they would do, and

744
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.159
they've had a kind of range of strategy. So now

745
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.639
they're reaching out to a wider range of brands that

746
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:38.480
will So before it was like Harry Potter, Marvel, Star Wars,

747
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.119
you know, I mean like real Triple A A properties

748
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:46.519
that had a massive following. And they it's not just

749
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:51.840
Star Trek. They are experimenting with a kind of slightly

750
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.000
less Triple A kind of brands, you know, things that

751
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.079
that I'm sure there is an appetite for, but maybe

752
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.559
not as you know, not in the kind of numbers

753
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.239
that there are for those mass brands. So very interest

754
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.360
to see what they do, obviously, and also they've got

755
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.199
that thing where you can go and lobby them for

756
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.639
first up, so you know, I'm sure everybody should be

757
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.320
going there and like going, yes, I want the entire

758
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:14.199
interior of Vija.

759
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:17.719
Yeah.

760
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:21.119
I just throughout my years, I were collecting Legos for

761
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.199
the longest time, and there never was a snow Track.

762
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.599
It was always Star Wars, Pirates, you know, all that

763
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.639
kind of stuff. When I first heard about Stowtrack, I

764
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:31.960
was like, Wow, that's actually coming through now finally. No,

765
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.599
but yeah, I think my next question would have to

766
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.360
be what do you think it's the biggest change in

767
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.239
the collectible industry or years.

768
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:48.760
Oh, that's very interesting question. I think we're actually in

769
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:53.679
the middle of that change at the moment. Probably the

770
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.639
biggest change I can think of during my lifetime is

771
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.400
to do with comics. Was you know, when I was

772
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.960
I was, I was very fortunate comics were growing up

773
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:03.199
at the same time as I was, so I was

774
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:07.519
reading Claremont Byrne x Men or Frank Miller Their Devil,

775
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.360
you know, and I really enjoyed seeing The Dead Devil

776
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:15.840
back on Disney Plus. But when they made the shift

777
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:19.039
from newstand only where you you know, it was all

778
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.679
about keeping it cheap and it had cheap print to

779
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:25.880
the the direct market stuff which was printed on nice

780
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.199
paper and all of that. But then you see what

781
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.480
happens with that is that everybody gets more and more

782
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.239
expensive because they start pursuing the collector. So instead of

783
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.400
it being like a thing that was made for everybody

784
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.159
that became collectible because it was in short supply, people

785
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:47.360
then started to make things specifically for collectors, to the

786
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:51.280
point where it's now quite a substantial industry. It is

787
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:56.039
the big growing trend. You know, kidd olt is increasing

788
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:01.760
and you're seeing either toys for brands that you wouldn't

789
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.559
expect to have toys, so you know, I was involved

790
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:10.719
in a conversation about Severance in the last couple of weeks. Yeah,

791
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:12.960
I don't think, you know, when I was eight or nine,

792
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.280
nobody would have made the equivalent. No one would have

793
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.639
made Severance when I was but no one would have

794
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.639
made the you know, no one would have made toys

795
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:21.760
for them. Now, having said that, I did have a

796
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:25.039
Coojack annual when I was about eight, which was entirely inappropriate.

797
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.039
It was all about, you know, taking down drug dealers

798
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:32.880
and murderers. But yeah, that's so the whole kind of

799
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:38.119
kid alt thing, the whole kind of adult sophisticated toys

800
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.639
is only going to grow. And I like to think

801
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.639
that we're in the kind of vanguard of a movement

802
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.559
towards collectors being able to get the kind of product

803
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.880
that they want because it's online, rather than because it's

804
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:57.400
mass market. You know, by when you go online and

805
00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.880
you can pull all those fans and those collectors together

806
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:03.920
more around the world, Suddenly you can and if you're

807
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:08.159
relatively modest in your volumes, suddenly you can make things

808
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:13.880
that they want rather than being a kind of and

809
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:15.960
I you know, rather than it being aimed at the

810
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:17.800
biggest possible number of people.

811
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:26.800
Wow. Cool, it's interesting, I think, Uh yeah, I think

812
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:28.679
that's all the questions I had for you today. But

813
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.679
I would definitely like to pass it over to child here.

814
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.920
So thank you for answering my questions.

815
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.159
Yeah, welcome, Ben. Not a whole lot of questions to

816
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.320
throw out. I know, I'm like Paul. I've got a

817
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:48.559
wall full of boxes of Eagle Mass stuff, and I

818
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.199
got bags dashed over there of all my Eagle Mass books.

819
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.400
But I just threw up one and then I'm going

820
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:58.280
to pass it back.

821
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.960
To Paul because I know he's still itching for more questions.

822
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.039
How about with Prodigy? What about Traveler Wesley?

823
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:08.880
Yeah?

824
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:11.079
Absolutely, yes, on the list, no question.

825
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:12.880
Yes.

826
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:16.679
I mean I think pretty much everybody in Prodigy is

827
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:22.440
on the list, you know Chacote. Yeah, I'm trying to

828
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:29.519
think who else the first officer on Yeah, absolutely everybody.

829
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:30.039
And we'll get there.

830
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:31.679
We'll get there everybody. I mean, you know I can

831
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:35.519
and uh X will do. Dr Mickey, you know we will.

832
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:36.400
The the.

833
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:39.800
The idea is no limits.

834
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:44.079
Yeah, I think in lower decks, I think it's to Lynn.

835
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:48.239
I think we need one of her too. Definitely want

836
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.880
to She really became part of the crew when she

837
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:51.519
showed up.

838
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:55.639
Yeah, Telen and Magell. I mean, there's these very similar

839
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.800
characters in terms of young Vulcan women. But yeah, that

840
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.760
both absolutely on my list and very very popular characters,

841
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:05.760
I think actually, and that's the kind of thing that

842
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:10.000
would slide by someone who wasn't watching the shows, you know,

843
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.920
passionately and regularly. You know, they'd be like, oh, they're

844
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:15.920
not one of the main cast backs. Yeah, pretty much

845
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:16.960
is by the end of the series.

846
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:21.199
Yes, well, I'm going to pass it back over to

847
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.280
Paul because I think he's probably got a couple more

848
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:24.199
questions going.

849
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.000
I just start picturing like a Ransom character in figure

850
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.440
form or a Shacks character, and I just can't stop laughing.

851
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:30.920
I mean, just.

852
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:37.119
Nonsense, the Ransom version without his shirt on. You know,

853
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:38.480
it's got to be done.

854
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:41.400
It's got to be done. I mean, but those are

855
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.840
going to show up on everyone's desk like mad I mean,

856
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.280
they will not be able to contain themselves to just

857
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:50.000
meet you know, the Collector universe alone. Those are going

858
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:54.920
to just be nuts. So I just wonderful preview of

859
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.400
what's to come on here, Ben, I know I want

860
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.119
to be because we're all very very keenly aware here

861
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.719
that it's tea time where you are well passed.

862
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.800
Actually, our clocks change, so it's quite civilized time. Actually,

863
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:08.679
I don't want to live.

864
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.920
I'm like, you know, we hate monopolizing you. But this

865
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.079
has just been a tremendous treat to be able to

866
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.480
have this. And uh, you know, I think from all

867
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:17.880
of us at Truk Talk and want to thank you

868
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:21.159
for everything that you've you know, marshaled into existence in

869
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.199
the past, but more importantly, wish you in these crazy

870
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.199
times we find ourselves in these days, right, wish you

871
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:33.280
just bottomless success with everything coming. It's very exciting.

872
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.280
Well, I just think depends on us doing stuff that

873
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.199
people want, you know, and that's the that's the goal,

874
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.960
and to do stuff, you know, like I said, you know,

875
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.480
I always think if we can deliver something that people

876
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:48.719
I can't believe they did that. I am so pleased

877
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:52.760
they did that. And like I said, the kind of

878
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:57.119
deep cut thing, one of the things only have to

879
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:58.760
be more teasing. I'm going to do so one of

880
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.679
the things that I can't announce it's on my desk.

881
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:09.119
Appeared in both lots and lots of episodes of the

882
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:15.559
original series and only one. There's a paradox for you.

883
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:20.960
Lots of lots of original series episodes. You're not only one.

884
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:22.159
You're not going to go.

885
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:26.280
It's such a deep cut like thing that only someone

886
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:29.480
who had looked at literally every frame of a particular

887
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:32.960
thing would have noticed and then done a bit of

888
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:34.000
research to find out.

889
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.840
How come after chat GPT, I guess.

890
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:41.000
So GPT does not know the answer to this question.

891
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.119
I have one mother question. I would just ask you

892
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.000
because I know you're just you're I know you're a

893
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:48.639
huge Star Trek fan, but I know that you're a

894
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.079
well two more questions. I want to ask you from

895
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.679
one thing, what is your favorite episode of All Star Trek.

896
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:55.280
You have a personal favorite that you just love?

897
00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:00.920
I do, well, I do, but I can't. I'm not

898
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.519
sure I can narrow it down to one era. If

899
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.800
I can give you one for each show, we can

900
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:08.440
do that. That's one of my favorite games. So my

901
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:13.239
my interestingly, my favorite episode of the original series does

902
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.960
not I mean, okay, let's just discount Sitting in the

903
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:21.119
interfel because it is phenomenal. It's the you know, it's

904
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.599
just a kind of level above not just our joke,

905
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:29.480
but kind of almost all television after Sage Forever. My

906
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.639
favorite episode of original series is Eron of Mercy, and

907
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.000
it's bizarre because it doesn't turn up in all those

908
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.000
kind of top ten lists, and I don't understand why not.

909
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:40.880
You know, it has some of the best Kirk's Bock

910
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.880
dialogue in the entire series. It has the introduction of

911
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:49.599
the Klingons, you know, core is just phenomenal, a choose

912
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:53.079
scenery like no One's business, and it has that you know,

913
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.519
perfect ending where you know, Kirk saying to the organ

914
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:58.760
is I demand the right to make what? Oh, hang

915
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.719
on a minute, This is not a very sensible thing

916
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.199
to be saying. So I have a really soft spot

917
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:09.960
for for End of Mercy, And of course you know

918
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:16.159
it's gene Kun thee who I am obsessed by. So

919
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:21.320
that's my favorite episode of t O S for TNNG

920
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.800
probably changes around a little bit, but I kind of

921
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:30.719
think probably Tapestry, I mean, for Jim, the sense of

922
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.280
the Father really writes really highly for me as well,

923
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:36.920
and of course then we had to play that and

924
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.760
of course yesterday's enterprise it's not you know, let's not

925
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.400
do that, uh. For d S nine Uh, well, again,

926
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:50.079
let's not let's discount in the Pearl, Moonlight and From

927
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:51.880
the Stars, but it's not called for Far from Stars.

928
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.679
But my favorite is Duet. I just think it's phenomenal

929
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:03.440
episode and and A is fantastic in it, as is

930
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:05.840
Harrison Unice. He's just out of this world. I mean,

931
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:10.639
it's one of Nana's favorite episodes as well. That's a

932
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:14.920
fantastic episode for Voyager. I'm going to be a little

933
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.800
bit unusual, so I'm going to say The Gift, which

934
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.559
is the episode in which seven becomes human. One of

935
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:24.480
the reasons I love that once much is because it's

936
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:28.480
written by Joe Minoski and Joe doesn't talk to people,

937
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.440
but he went through a brief period of talking to me,

938
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.480
and I think he's one of the most intelligent people

939
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.880
to ever write for Star Trek, and his stuff is

940
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.639
so tight and so moving. But it also it was

941
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.920
just this was the moment for me that The Gift

942
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.039
was like it it's the episode in which Voyager is

943
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:51.039
really real. It's the episode that kind of like you

944
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:55.159
came away from that episode so excited and we're like,

945
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:58.360
this is this is just fantastic.

946
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:01.320
For Enterprise.

947
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:04.840
I think the Pilot is still one of the strongest things.

948
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:10.599
I think it was very, very strong opening, and unfortunately

949
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:12.639
I don't think that Price quite delivered on the promise

950
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:14.800
of the Pilot. As much as I would like to

951
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.599
have seen, some of the things they pursued weren't the

952
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.480
things I would have pursued. I guess my other pet

953
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.360
peeve is that I think Star Trek is not about

954
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.400
going where no man has gone before. It's about going

955
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.800
by one or two people have been before. If you

956
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.000
go back and watch the original series, it's very rare

957
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.360
they actually go someone where no one's been before. They

958
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:35.920
go where someone who's done something wrong has been before.

959
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.599
To go where a slightly questionable person has been before

960
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:43.960
is what happened, whether that Roger Corby.

961
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.800
Or where some has already gone yeah.

962
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.199
Exactly exactly, or where someone has come and like being

963
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.599
kick apped by a computer, brainwashed by a computer, or

964
00:53:55.400 --> 00:54:02.599
you know, created an entire civilization of commonly androids. So yeah,

965
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:07.079
so yeah, that was just a pet peet. And then

966
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:09.840
from the Modern Chairs, I don't think you were quite

967
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.840
as easy to pin down individual episodes because you big

968
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:17.480
story arcs. But I'm a big Locker fan from the

969
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.400
first season of Discovery. I thought Locker was just the

970
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.440
most exciting thing to happen to star Trek for years,

971
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.559
to have a character who was like morally questionable. And

972
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.519
I'm still slightly disappointed at that he turned out to

973
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:34.639
be from the Mirror Universe, because I just would love

974
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:37.679
him to still be wandering around and you know, and

975
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.519
and Prime Locer. We still don't really know what happened

976
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:43.920
at Prime Locker, so he could turn up in Stranger Worlds.

977
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:49.000
That's my lobby for that. If Henry and Akiva are

978
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.639
listening that, I still think there's place for Prime Locker.

979
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:56.559
Jason Isaacs is amazing. He's so great. I agree. I

980
00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:57.719
just love that character.

981
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:01.880
It's kind of morally complex character who is just you know,

982
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:04.440
and he what's great about him before you can get

983
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.119
in the more universites. He's effective, you know, he gets

984
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:12.440
shit done. So I love those those kind of early

985
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:18.159
episodes like Butcher's Knife and those kind of episodes of

986
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:20.960
Discovery right at the beginning run about episodes four or five, six,

987
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:25.039
that kind of territory again for Picardo, I don't know

988
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.119
that you can pick a particular episode. I really liked

989
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:32.199
the first season. I think it's underrated, and I think

990
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:34.800
that that whole kind of Picardo arc was really strong.

991
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:40.280
And then Strategy Worlds are well, there's so many I

992
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:44.639
love so many episodes of Strategy world I have to say,

993
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:50.400
I think it's it's paradid asper I get me Latin wrong.

994
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:53.679
The trial episode with with Number one in the second

995
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.960
season was absolutely one of the best episodes of Star

996
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.280
Trek there had been for decades at that point. And

997
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.039
then the Kirk episode that comes immediately afterwards with I

998
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.159
think is a phenomenal character. Again, she's great.

999
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.760
I kept waiting for Samuel T. Coggley to show up

1000
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:18.119
in the trial absolutely why is he not there as defense?

1001
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:20.840
I'm trying to think, you else, kids? Who else can

1002
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:24.119
we have? I mean there's obviously loads of or somebody.

1003
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:26.000
Matt.

1004
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.480
I can't feel like Matt Dka needs to turn up.

1005
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.480
I really greatest performance ever in cos from my opinion,

1006
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.360
I just William Wyndham just blew the doors off with that.

1007
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.719
He was incredible, completely believed that this guy is another captain.

1008
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:40.039
You know.

1009
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:42.480
Just think. One of the things I love is the

1010
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:46.599
idea that Kirk was not especially cool. He's just like

1011
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:49.039
there are twelve guys like him out there and they're

1012
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:52.480
all equally cool, you know, And that's one of the

1013
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.719
things I love about Adson mounth Is. You absolutely believe

1014
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:55.239
this guy could.

1015
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:00.280
He's amazing. He can't wait for them to as that

1016
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.599
season three premiere date and it's like, yeah, come on,

1017
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:04.599
bring it on. Well, we got to let you go,

1018
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:06.119
but I want to just ask you one more question

1019
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.400
because I'm just this is such a great thing to

1020
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.199
have here. We all have fantasies about ips becoming toys

1021
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:14.639
that have never become toys right that were like, Oh,

1022
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.159
if I could just get a hold of this, you know,

1023
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:19.039
we talked about Blade Runner right for me, one of

1024
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.960
the ones I've always dreamed about, right was I grew

1025
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:24.360
up being terrified by all of the monsters and the

1026
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:28.079
original Outer Limits. I was just like so many great

1027
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.360
monsters that just were horrifically disturbingly rendered for the era.

1028
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:36.519
It's oh, just like melting and dripping, and oh, just

1029
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.480
this is the greatest. If somebody would do toys of that,

1030
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:41.119
I would go nuts.

1031
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:45.280
You're probably too niche h, I hear you. I think

1032
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:48.480
you know, maybe that's a kickstarter. I hadn't thought about that.

1033
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:52.159
We could maybe do like a line of outer limits. Ah,

1034
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:56.440
that's just so cool to limits action figures. I don't

1035
00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:58.440
know who the right I'll tell you the one that

1036
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:01.559
made me laugh is that things that we can't get.

1037
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:06.400
So when we've done the Galactica ships, the obvious place

1038
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:10.840
to go after that was I was put quadges because

1039
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:14.280
the designed for the end of the we ring the universal,

1040
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.119
our content universal, and so can you license park quages

1041
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:22.880
to us? And they're like, what, what's spark Quadges? I mean,

1042
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:26.679
it turns out it's the rights to buck quadges are

1043
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.679
really like as bad as Blade Runner are really complicated

1044
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.599
and and you know it's it's not a toll clear

1045
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:38.519
who actually owns those rights. So that, sadly is impossible.

1046
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:45.039
One on my long list that I think we might

1047
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:46.320
be able to do, but I just kind of need

1048
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.599
enough people to convince me they really want them, and

1049
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:50.280
then we had to pay a lot of money to Disney.

1050
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:55.599
Is the black hole kind of think that there would

1051
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:57.519
be that there are those of us who were you know,

1052
00:58:57.679 --> 00:58:59.719
that was the next thing we saw after Star Wars. Yeah,

1053
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:04.360
so that I'd like to do, and I think that's possible.

1054
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.960
I mean, the rights are available it's just about the

1055
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:07.760
money really.

1056
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.280
On that one thing. Disney ass a lot, right, I mean,

1057
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:11.320
I'm sure, yeah.

1058
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:13.119
But you know you can combine it with other things

1059
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.000
on that we just it's one of those ones where

1060
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.480
you're going to your boss, isn't saying I really think

1061
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:18.280
we should do the black Hole?

1062
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:23.440
They're like, really, are you sure? What have you been drinking?

1063
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:25.000
Then really you.

1064
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:26.239
Really want to do the black Hole?

1065
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:27.159
Yeah?

1066
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.599
Yeah, I think so, But it's a bit of a risk,

1067
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:32.119
a bit of a punt, and obviously you'd have to

1068
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:33.920
do you know, you'd have to do the worry boss,

1069
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:40.199
we need a sickness sure, amazing amazing stuff. The other

1070
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:43.480
one I guess that comes up is is two thousand

1071
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:47.280
of the ships from two thousand and one that they're

1072
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:48.440
kind of possible.

1073
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.360
Another fantasy of mine. And then then I promise we'll

1074
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:54.519
let you go. But it's just in that exl scale

1075
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:57.840
that you did so many of the ships. If somebody

1076
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:02.320
would do some of the classic like Irwin Allen and

1077
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:05.239
you know, I know I product the Enterprise and what

1078
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:07.159
I tried for a while to do those like things

1079
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.800
like the like the spin Drift from Land of the Giants,

1080
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:13.159
the Voyage to the bottom of the sea. Ships like

1081
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.639
the Flying s Up I still pulling out hope somebody

1082
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:17.840
will make a protein.

1083
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:22.760
Kiva Goldsman is just signed to do or to redevelop

1084
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.599
all those went out on the property. Really so that

1085
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.960
potentially new TV shows coming based on a I P.

1086
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:35.719
So if those hits that you know, that would probably

1087
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.480
reignite enough interest to make it viable. And then if

1088
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:40.840
you get people in by offering them the new stuff,

1089
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.480
then the possibility of doing some of the old stuff

1090
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:44.159
by emerge.

1091
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.039
Fantastic voyage what a ship, I mean, amaz just.

1092
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:50.920
Needs a little bit, it just needs again. It's one

1093
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:53.440
of those ones where you need some kind of evidence

1094
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:57.800
to present to your bosses. That's like, okay, you.

1095
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.000
Know Rediscovery in be a new to show that they're

1096
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:01.960
still an appetite for it.

1097
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.480
Exactly if the shows, you know, the Show's come back

1098
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.039
and Big Kids, I think then there's a chance. And

1099
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:09.880
I think those rights are you know, those rights are available.

1100
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.000
I mean the ones that are the really tricky ones

1101
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:13.719
are the ones where it's like they're just nobody has

1102
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.079
the rights. You can't even if you want to. You've

1103
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:17.599
got all the money in the world and you're prepared

1104
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:21.840
to lose it all. You know, you're hard pressed to.

1105
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:26.159
You can't do bot Rogers, you can't. You know, it's

1106
01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:29.920
pretty tricky doing reginal right run not impassible tricky.

1107
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:32.760
Well, you're a miracle worker, Ben, that's all I know.

1108
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:35.800
So and you've always been that way. So as far

1109
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.239
as your you know, esteem in the fan community, So

1110
01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:41.679
I think we should probably think about letting you go

1111
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:45.360
because it's we've been you know, you've been incredibly Your

1112
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:48.840
time and your and your expertise and just these little

1113
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.840
glimpses and previews of what's coming is just such a

1114
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:55.119
treat And from all of us here at Trek Talking,

1115
01:01:56.079 --> 01:02:00.159
we salute you, my friend, and and we stand to

1116
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.119
you know, pre order buttons at the ready waiting.

1117
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:07.960
Makes a difference. It makes stuff. It makes stuff. I

1118
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:09.760
know people kind of think why would I pre order?

1119
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:11.920
And one of the things that happens is when you

1120
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:13.920
get pre orders, you have more confidence in things and

1121
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.599
you were able to you know, push ahead and take

1122
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:20.079
more risks and then do that kind of deeper dive stuff.

1123
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.800
So there's a reason to pre order for people, but

1124
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:28.079
it's entirely up to you with ideas to make stuff

1125
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.480
people want, so you know that's the goal.

1126
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:33.599
That's excellent, Uncle Jim, I'm going to pass this deep

1127
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.239
back to your man, parting shots, parting words for our

1128
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:36.760
dear friend.

1129
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.880
Well, I just have just one question. You left out

1130
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.880
Star Trek, the animated series in your favorite episodes. I

1131
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:44.519
know what ours, We've talked about it.

1132
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:50.920
What's yours? It's gotta be Yeah, yeah, I mean Dorothy. So,

1133
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:53.000
I was lucky enough to get to talk to Dorothy

1134
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:58.840
Fontana quite a lot over the years, and Dorothy, you

1135
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:02.159
know to me that that episode is like of all

1136
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:04.440
the the arguments that you could look at look at

1137
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.480
the animated series and go and yeah, I'm not too

1138
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:10.360
sure Giant Vulcan should be cannon, though Mike McMahon has

1139
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.840
made them cannon or lower next. But Yesteryear, I think

1140
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:20.360
really stands. As you know, Dorothy could have could absolutely

1141
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:25.079
have told that story on the original series, and he's

1142
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:30.800
very you know, very very unhappy. I think that an

1143
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:35.679
animated series wasn't considered cannon. But yeah, it stands. It

1144
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:37.920
stands as a very important part of the Star Trek.

1145
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:41.559
For me, absolutely. And one more thing, as a bellow

1146
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:46.000
Klingon fan, can you tease me on any possible release

1147
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:49.280
of anything cling on related or are you not allowed

1148
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:49.599
to say?

1149
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:52.960
Well, I can tell you that we have finished our

1150
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:57.239
Wolf action figure from Excellent. He's in the line up

1151
01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:04.840
at the beginning, so yeah, Wolf's on the way. Otherwise, yeah,

1152
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.280
little ship. So I think there's probably you can't go

1153
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:10.400
too far wrong with another little cling on Bird of Prey.

1154
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:18.000
I think that's that's there. It's another project. There is

1155
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.519
just that it's an inkling in an eye and it's

1156
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:24.280
just a podcast thing, but that is a very very

1157
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:26.400
cling on thing that we've been talking about for that

1158
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:26.880
as well.

1159
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:32.360
Any idea that we might see Laurel from Strange New Worlds?

1160
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:38.320
Yeah, yeah, yes, absolutely, Well Discovery, Well, I don't know

1161
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:39.960
if she's turning up in Strangers. I have no idea

1162
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.760
about that. I would be surprised if Floril doesn't turn

1163
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.960
up on Strange New Worlds. It kind of feels like

1164
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:49.079
they will do some kind of cling on arc at

1165
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:52.000
some point, you kind of I would if I were them,

1166
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:55.800
for sure. Yeah. I mean one of the things that

1167
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:57.480
it's the fun game, isn't it is? What is there

1168
01:04:57.559 --> 01:04:59.880
that they should revisit on Strange New Worlds?

1169
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:02.639
Hang on.

1170
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:04.880
I personally love Moromlins, but you they're kind of out

1171
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.639
some else, is there, Yeah, I mean the ancient ones.

1172
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:12.960
I'd love to see, uh, like characters like Matt Dakka.

1173
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:17.519
You know, there's so much sort of fun stuff to

1174
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:22.199
be done in that space more and Urians always.

1175
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:26.079
All right, Well, thank you so much.

1176
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:26.320
Ben.

1177
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.760
We really appreciate you taking time out of your busy

1178
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:32.599
schedule to track talk with us. Thank you so much. Well,

1179
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:35.360
thank you you have a great rest of your day.

1180
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:38.880
Thank you you too, great success, Ben, Thank you so much,

1181
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:39.320
my friend.

1182
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:41.320
Thank you, coupla.

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All right, guys, so that wraps up our show for

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this week. And I want to take a moment to

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say thank you to Paul for hanging out in trek

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talking with us tonight.

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Thank you, Paul. What a pleasure man. Absolutely any any

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opportunity like this amaze so lot of fun.

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And now thank you so much to Charles for hanging

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out with us from Las Vegas. Thank you, Charles.

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Thank you, Jim.

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Future thing is to take from my wallet.

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And of course thank you to David, our miracle worker

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for making everything work out in the show. Thank you

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so much, David.

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Welcome.

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It was a really good pleasure of meeting you Ben.

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A lot of fun and I want to let everybody

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know that Thursday Night Comic Corner is back. We're going

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to be talking about Star Trek Lower Decks episode or

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issue number one and the one shot from section thirty

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one on Thursday show. So join us back on Thursday.

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I'm your most excelland host Uncle Jim saying to everybody

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hailing frequencies are closed. Please everybody stay safe and be

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good to each other. Star Trek fans are the best fans.

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Good afternoon, good.

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Day, I'm not sure.

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Yeah, by what time is it?

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Uh?

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Spatial spatial anomalies?

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Yeah, all right time. Thanks, thanks a lot, guys. Prosper

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h
Ben Robinson