Star Trek: Prodigy "CRACKED MIRROR " and "A TRIBBLE CALLED QUEST" review

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1:05 Well, Good evening, Truckies and truckers around the globe. It's Thursday, September fifth, twenty twenty four. This is episode six hundred and four of Trek Talking, and I'm your most host, excellent host, Uncle Jim Staying. Welcome to this show. And boy have we got a great one plan for you guys. Tonight. The Mirror Universe is back, Triples are back. We're gonna sprinkle a klingon in there just for fun. But wait, there's more. We have our fans shout outs as well. We have our Star Trek birthdays, and we have some Star Trek news. For you. So, without any further Ado, I would like to introduce to you my awesome, my incredible Trucks Birth and we're gonna start off in Las Vegas with Charles. How you doing tonight, Charles? I'm hanging in there.

1:54 I'm not sure. I'm hanging in here for the heat wave starts from the next Chicken border and heads the Canadian border. Sorry, Portland, you guys got it to this time. I don't know, we're not We're not getting it here in Vermont. I don't know anyway. This is the West coast, not the East coast. Yeah, we're getting snow. We're getting snow. And uh let's let's swing out to my trifecta, my Triple Play out in Portland, and we'll start off with the Donut Guy himself, mister David. How you doing tonight, David?

2:37 I'm pretty good, But I think we should change that name to Triple Play. You want to be the trible that what you're saying you want tribles, We can give you tribles. And also, while in Portland, we have the toy guy, Paul. How you doing tonight, Paul? Hey man, I'm doing well. You know it's an exciting week of Star Trek right because I am holding in my hot little hands right now IDW's issue number five hundred of their Star Trek published comic property five hundred issues. This one's kind of mega supersized with seven different stories in there. And do you know what else is going on?

3:20 Dudes? This Saturday, I'm going to a. Con panel that features both Jason Isaacs and Doug Johnson, So I am there might just be some Discovery centric stuff going on in that particular panel, and so I am there to drink deep and represent and gain knowledge and see what's happening. So it's going to be very a very tricky week this week. Man's I'm super excited and excited to discuss these two new episodes tonight, So let there be blood. That sounds awesome, awesome, and last but definitely not least as well, is there a very own Eric? How you doing tonight? Eric?

4:04 You know I am doing pretty darn good, very excited to be on the show. Thursday nights, or as we like to call them, Friday's Eves, are one of my favorite nights of the week. And you know, Jim, I just wanted to say that whatever reality throws at us. I'm glad I'm in this one with you, guys. It is a good one. It is a good one. I got to say happy inniversary to my awesome wife. Thirty two years ago we got married, so and Carl Striking was at our wedding university graduation. Congrats. You're on Facebook, you can check them out. We started actually dating in high school, so it's actually been a lot longer than thirty two years. But I just wanted to assure a happy interversion. That was on Wednesday, so that's pretty cool. I wanted to get that, and I want to let you guys know well that I'm finally over my K twenty three variant of COVID. I've got my back. I'm not coughing anymore. It was a long couple of weeks that that that COVID strand is a killer for sure, So stay safe, everybody. Our phone number here is six four six six six eight two four three three. You guys should have that on speed dial by now, so you can give us a call and join the fun and share your opinions on the episodes or anything that we're talking about. Or you can just call up and say hey, dudes, we'd love to hear from you, but if you're if you're gun shy, if

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6:27 So thank you so much to each and every one of you guys. And let's see if we can get that up to nineteen thousand, twenty thousand. Well, we'll go for nineteen next week. That would be great. While you're on our Facebook page, though, you can take part in our polls. I always throw lots of cool polls out there. You can tell us what you thought about an episode, so when we do our fan score sections, your opinion will be heard. And you can also tell us where you're listening from. There's a Livelong and prosper post. Pin to the top of the page and just tell us where you're listening from. Look for a heart from your truly uncle Jim, and that means your name is going to be featured in a future fan shout out. And speaking of fan shout outs, how would you like to get us started with this week's fan shout outs?

7:17 Eric, I would love to. We're gonna spin that globe over to the great area of it called South Australian. We're saying hello this week to Val Crisp, who has shouted out to us, and we're shouting right back out to you, Livelong and prosper Val, Thanks for supporting talking down there in South Australia. We're also saying hello this week to Sasha Fizer, who's saying hello from Switzerland, sending us that beautiful Swiss flag and a what is that a muscle arm? Yeah, yeah, I'm liking that. Sasha, that's cool. Sasha Fluler, thank you so much for saying hello to us. I'll send hello this week to Elliott Hasti. Elliott Hasti is saying hello from Scotland. I don't want those places that I would love to go. It looks so beautiful, so green, so cool. Elliott Hasti, thank you so much for saying hello to us from that beautiful area. And last, but not least on my list, I'm saying hello this week to Graham Wood. Graham Wood is saying hello to us from Mindana No mindanao mind now in the Philippines.

8:21 I pronounced that, yeah, mind now, there we go in the Philippines. Graham would thanks so much for saying hello to us, and uh for just you know, basically being there interacting on our Facebook page doing things means a lot to us to have other people out there giving us feedback, because who wants to shout into a vacuum? Right, all right, I'm gonna send this shout out megaphone over to my good friend Charles. Charles, take it away. Thank you, Eric. Well, let's start well a little bit in the start with tell me welcome to mill Neo soul Man. Welcome Mario, and not too far away, let's welcome Michael Clink from boise Yaw. Yeah, now we're done with small stake. The Big DAGs very warm. Welcome to Robert Hicks from the Big Das, Texas.

9:22 Man. I forgot Mario is a top conservator. Oh sorry about. Mario is bigger than that. Twin Top contributor. Welcome Andrea Miller from Alaska. The weather's nice and cool there in Alaska. David, who's on your list? Yeah? I got a couple of people here to top contributor. That was the first one worth thank you to Michael Schrouder from Pennsylvania, USA. And the next top contributors is a shout out to Glinda Spratt from California, USA, and a couple more on my list is I want to say hello and welcome and thank you for supporting us.

10:10 To William to tamangy tamud. I think that's how you pronounced it, Sorry if I bit saed it from Texas. And last on my list, there's another shout out and thank you to Ann Gordon from Iowa. Paul who's on your list? Thanks David. First of all, let's start off with saying Hello to Frank White. Now, I wonder if that's the same Frank White from King of New York. I hope not. If anybody knows that particular movie. But Frank White gets in your subway train, it's time to leave. It's ok He's in Derbyshire. Now, he's in Derbyshire, so I think it should be okay. But Frank is saying hello to us is a top contributor, by the way, in South Derbyshire, England, which is pretty much smack dab right in the middle of the UK there right, pretty much dead center that we have there, just a little bit to the west of Nottingham, I believe, and a little bit north of Birmingham. This memory serves so kind of in that general West Midlands area. There so a wonderful place. I've got a lot of connections to the UK and hope to be making my way there sometime soon.

11:23 One never knows. But it's been calling to me for a while, the old home roots. So thanks for being a fan, Frank, and please don't kill any of us. I appreciate that. And it's a little movie joke there for you. And yeah, I just think it's always encouraging to know that they're Star Trek fans all over the world, like our friend Marcus Schneider, who's saying hello from Berlin, Germany. Great to hear from New Marcus. Outstanding to know that they are Star Trek fans over there. A little bit further down the road, we're saying hello to our friend Dario to sell Bitch from the great Land of Israel, flag prominently displayed there. So wonderful to hear from me, Dario.

12:07 And we're in the bedrock of civilization where everything began. If you want to really get honest about things, let's say hello to East Africa and let's visit the incredible, gorgeous land of Kenya and our friend listener Fenmo Omnip, I hope I'm pronouncing that right, Fenmo, I hope, I am femno omnip from the magical land of Kenya where just absolutely stunning versus. Are on all around you. So wonderful to see what a global phenomenon that Star Trek continues to be. And we'll pass that spinning roulette wheel over to Uncle Jim.

12:49 Thank you, thank you so much. Paul. Well, first off, i'd like to say thank you, and welcome to the show to Severino m Carbone, who's listening towards an upstate York. Now, I gotta I gotta clarify something here. Upstate New York is classified as anything other than New York City. So upstate New York could be anywhere. I don't think there's a necessarily. No I've lived, yeah, New York. Anybody that's that Upstate New York is everything outside of New York.

13:37 You can google it. It could be anywhere. It's it's it's strange. But so upstate New York, sevar Reno could be anywhere outside of it could be well, now I'm in Vermont, but. Well, I gotta be honest with you, man, as somebody who spent some time there, and there's a lot of family. Upstate is really middle Upper Hudson Valley specifically, Okay, so it's like the Mohawk Valley, Central New York, Southern Tier, Finger Lakes, Western New York. So, uh, there's like four fists of the state are not Upstate New York. So I'm sorry, that's just uh, I gotta lay the land down with you.

14:18 It's just that's just it is. Sorry, I have to disagree because I live there for right, and it's just that. Sorry, anybody, anybody that's in New York City will cut you upstate New York and that's yeah. People in New York City, New York, that's what you're getting for from the narrow goggles of like of the my borough. Sure they'll say that. But people who are in the rest of the state, who don't limit it to just New York City, they know better because they know better. So there you're going. New York don't like to. Push out misinformation on the air, especially in this time of year. So for New Yorkers, I apologize. It's a pretty big state. It's perty big. There's lots lots of upstate.

15:05 That could be. We also want to say thank you to Kathy Link who's listening to us from New Hampshire right around the corner from me. Thank you, Kathy. And we want to say thank you to James Susan Super who's in Buffalo, New York. I wonder if all the snow has melted up there yet. And last but not least, who want to say thank you so much to David Grigo, who's a top contributor, which means that David participates in our polls and answers our questions on our Facebook page. And David is an Albuquerque, New Mexico. Isn't that where bugs Bunny was trying to get to? No, No, it's the place that he should have taken a left at.

15:50 Oh, he should have taken a left. That's not where he was going. It's always like I should have taken a left at albuquiky. Okay, all right, all right, guys, So that's our fans shout outs. And now it's time for our polls. And I don't have a poll song, but pulls. Polls, polls, post polls. Polls, Eascar bite. Long poo, Joe kareless more long hole shoe.

16:34 I kind of getting worried that we're going to have like a pull down song. I was like, and cling on and cling on. That translates into poles, polls, polls, polls, pull going on, all right, So Eric, you want to get us started off with our first poll here? Yeah, our first poll this week is all about some good stuff here from a Strange New World. Should Captain Angel and Sybock return in season three of Star Trek Strange New Worlds? And according to our Facebook page users.

17:16 The people who responded to this poll, sixty eight percent of those people said hell, yes, let's get those people back. I want me some more Captain Angel and Sybok, and third two percent gave it a no way thumbs down. So that's a pretty good split. It's like two thirds four one third against. I would count that as as like general overall support, and I know I personally am on that same side. I'd love to see more of either one of those characters. It'd be cool to especially bring back Sybok because they teased us so badly, and I totally dug the Captain of the Angel character and would love to see more of them. So yeah, I'm all in, what about you?

18:01 Yeah, oh well it's Sybox. He was the best Star Trek movie ever. So I mean I kind of figured you, Jim, You're you're like a that's like a softball to you, that's a that's a gift. Yeah about the other guys, I'm off what so yeah? Nice? Yeah, definitely. Yeah. You know what's weird about that he had he was going by some weird name like Xavius or Xavier or something. He wasn't using the Namebox, so like that is like his sybock his like uh uh god given name and his real name is Xavier or Xaviers or with sybox his real name and Xavier an odd name.

18:55 I know. I mean, I just got the sense that it was it was a uonym that he used in his business about the pirate realms, and that you know, he just wanted he just didn't want people to know his real name is he was bouncing around doing his thing. Like an alien's that's the on I'm looking for, thank you? Yeah. Yeah. So this next poll I did specifically for Eric. Now, the preface this the list is long and dignified, so I had to cut it down. So it's a con substantially shorter list, but a fun one nonetheless. So Eric, what's our next pole question?

19:44 Our next poll question is from the admirals listed, who is the worst? I know there are many missing from this list. I tried to keep it short. So what is this? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and oh no six, you're one, two, five, just five? Okay? So of these five admirals, who's the worst. And we've got Admiral Buennamigo, a good friend, I would say, from starting lower decks. We've got Admiral Layton from the d S Nine Days. We've got Fleet Admiral Cartwright.

20:26 From the best Star Trek movie ever. We've got Vice Admiral Doherty from the TG Days. We've got and we've got Eric Pressman from back in the TG Days. So pretty good assortment of different guys. So Admiral Buenaigo got eleven percent of our votes, and I would say, you know, given that he's only gotten a couple of appearances, that's pretty good. We haven't seen him too much. But what he does seem very incompetent to me. So can I ask a question, Yeah, what is our definition of worst? Okay, well, that's because is it worse like that they're incompetent they're not effective as an admiral, or worse in terms of them being evil and calculating and manipulative and machiavellian. So like, let's let's talk about what I mean.

21:15 You know, I think to each their own probably I think you could like define that any way that you want. I mean, to get I guess better data. You could ask like a better question, right, like, uh, you know, given this, or like which one of these is the most ineffective or which one of these guys is the biggest dick or like, you know all that kind of stuff. What did Dougherty do? I'm trying to remember that. What was his uh uh? He's from insurrection and he was the one who like led the Oh there was a whole saying that he's the he's the like Fountain of Life guy, right, He like he wanted to protect this area so that the Federation could have access to the Fountain of Youth on one on the Baku planet. So he basically basically yeah, I mean insurrection. It is kind of like he he's like, like the analogy I think would be like the US going into some country and put quote protecting them so that they can have access to their oil.

22:21 Oh no, that would never happen. What do you say? That's basically, isn't it. Yeah. And then Admiral Layton, he was the one who helped stage the coup I think, to help fight the dominion back in the day. He was like the Yeah, he wanted to put Earth under martial law, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, so he wanted to put more I mean, we all know who Cartwright was. And then Pressman to me like, well, hold on, let me read off the numbers and then I'll go philosophical. Okay soon, Layton got twelve percent, heart Right got thirteen percent. So those first three guys are basically all right in the same range whining we go Leyton and Kartwright. No, we've got Doherty slightly higher at nineteen percent, and Admiral Eric Pressman was forty five percent of the vote, which I think is I think that's fascinating.

23:19 Yeah, I'm surprised that he got higher because his only thing was the whole Prime Directive thing about not being able to use the cloaking technology here. But when he got caught, I guess he turned evil. I'm not exactually sure what his story is, but. Yeah, I mean he definitely to me, is the is the guy who's the most complicated one here. I don't I don't think that he's clearly a bad guy because he had a lot of interest to think about. It's kind of like when. Cisco does like shady stuff during the Dominion War because he knows that he needs to do that for things to kind of turn out.

24:01 Right. Present was kind of like that, you know, He's like, Okay, we need we got to do these things, but it's it's to stay ahead of the game. So I don't know for him. For him, I just think that he's one of those like complex admirals that when I give my little admiral talk at cons which I've only done once, I sound like I've done it a million times. I did it once, But he was my He was my kind of like is he a hero or is he a villain? I think he's right on the line. But forty five percent of our Facebook page. Users thought he was a bad guy. So there you go. Huh, well, he just.

24:43 Did the accord. He there was a mutiny aboard his ship where his crew was killed. Uh, and then he came back later. Yeah, he's clearly, he's clearly touched. He's he's some don'tut short of a dozen? For sure? You had too hard would let him get away with that? Yeah? Well, I mean the thing about most Starfleet admirals is that remember that, because they're not in the fray, they rely on information from all of their captains that are out there, and so when they make decisions, they necessarily are always making decisions based on kind of like second hand information. And you know, if they make a bad call.

25:33 It's it affects a lot of people, but it's likely based on poor information that they got somewhere. Because of him. We got the Enterprise finalitey that we got because of this guy, and that that alone is evil. I do know what you're saying. To create this very episode, and it never happened if it wasn't for this guy. So yeah, there. I actually kind of like that back, so but it would kind of talk to me.

26:15 I guess all right, And what's what's our next one? Eric? This one I just threw out there for fun because it was National Dog Day. Yeah, this one's nice. Which Star Trek pet is your favorite? Uh? And we've got Livingston the Fish, that's Picards fish who got two percent of our votes. We've got Isis the cat from Assignment Earth in Tos got four percent of the votes. The Grudge the. Cat books cat from Star Trek Discovery got nineteen percent of the votes, Porthos, the cheese eating pup from Star Trek Enterprise got twenty five percent of the votes, and Spot the Cat Data's wonderful cat who turned one thing gets pregnant of the votes go to Spot and nobody knows how the cat got pregnant as the only cat on the ship.

27:08 That's kind of weird. Yeah, it was the holiday, like a cat or something. I don't know. I mean's just getting spilled in those labs all the time. You know. We just saw an example of that in one. Of the episodes of Prodigy this week. Right, So it's just like somebody sneezes wrong or something else, and you know, I mean it's entirely possible. So you know, I mean, cats will lick up anything. I mean, let's be honest. It's just you know, I'm not on record the only cat on ship. Well, I'm going down as team Spot. I agree, Spot's the best. Yeah, trouble wasn't mentioned.

27:50 I feel like part of this is because like Data has got the strongest connection with his pet, right, I don't know that you know any of these other well Isis and Gary seven that's. A whole other thing. Well, I would say Captain Archer and Porthos have a pretty strong. Connection, pretty good connection, Yeah. I think so. I think that he like thinks of it as it's his like connection to the earth and like just being somebody who's living like a normal life. I don't know, and Porthos shows up in an awful lot of episodes too. You don't for on a card for a stard truck back wing. He got anywhere.

28:30 I actually ejected. I actually ejected Porthos out of the air lock. And in one game of attack Wing that I played, it was hard to decide was remember to toss out the airlock? It had to be an innocent dog out of the air I did. A monster. I'm a monster. You should be on the animal list. I personally, I went with myself. Yeah, but there's two grudges. So does each grudge get half of that vote? And there's how that happen? Oh deescimals double grudge. Yeah, at theo point five of a grudge. All right, guys, So that's our Star Trek polls for the week, and I've got some new ones up, so you can head over to our Facebook page and vote on our poles.

29:20 And now it's time for Cadet training child take it away, Charles. Okay, but there wasn't a lot in these two episodes, but especially for Day, and it's like, okay, Day then is tribles. Tribles start way back in ts with the Tule the troubles, trobles. Then we jumped to the animated and had more tribles, more troubles, and we thought we were done with troubles. We had trials and tribulations back in DS nine, then we thought they were done with it.

30:16 Came the Star Trek Short, the trouble with Edwards and the first time we see some experimenting being done on Trible and then Prodigy into the Breach. The first episode the season, you see Rock Talk experimenting with a trouble at trying to prevent them from producing a for Jim. Let's just say DS nine and Mark Talk would not have liked that. Talk. Mark Talk showed up in twenty two episodes nine, but he is the one that sent the scientist to this planet.

31:05 That other planet we got Stadium O'Connor of course, I takes that t and g ear with the outrageous Oplana, and then O'Connor was re showed up in two of It's a Prodigy, cross Roads and Masquerade. And of course, with our major twist in time change, we have the media universe, which t os is the original series visited, DS nine visited, Enterprise visited, and Discovery visited. So that's our tie in with that. But I bet Eric would love to talk about fan raiders.

31:57 Yeah, I absolutely would. Every week Jim puts up these things up on our Facebook page and gets the fan ratings for each episode. We don't have any specific comments, but people give them a numbered rating, and we said, on a scale of one to ten, with ten being the best, what did our Facebook fans rate a triple called quest? They give it a nine point five, which is a pretty good score. I would say that that's like, is that right up there? I didn't look at the rest of this course yet, but that feels like that's right at the top. It feels pretty high. It feels pretty high, So that's pretty good.

32:37 And then on a scale one to ten, what did our Facebook fans think about the Mirror? Is it called the Mirror Universe? No, it's called Cracked Mirror. Yeah. Fan score of eight point six, So eight point six is nothing to scoff at. It's no nine point five. Let's see here, scrolling, scrolling, scroll, So yeah, it looks like our highest before this has. Been the breach. What's up hides with the end of the breach? Okay, there you go nine point five and we had Temporal Mechanics, which was the fourth episode that had a higher score. So yeah, we're right up there at the top.

33:17 And then that eight point six I think is I didn't do the math on all these, but my sense is that that's about average for where most of our fans have been rating these things. We've only had a couple of sevens, but most things have been rated in the H or above. So yeah, so I would say the fans really dug this one or these two, the first one more than the second one, which is very interesting to. Means, yeah, if you look at like the I don't know if everyone is as much of an IMDb hunter, is me? Right? Do you guys go in there a lot? Oh? I sure do see what people are looking for. Yeah. Yeah, Well it's interesting because I you know, when I'm done watching, I typically will go and sort of say, okay, what is the fin And that's kind of been my baseline to go check it out right, And interestingly, I mean it's not a huge variance, but on that platform, Cracked Mirror got a higher review than Triple Call Class.

34:16 So from what we're seeing here, so I was not not by a huge amount, not by a margin just by a few points. But but Bill, it is interesting. So this is kind of curious to see where people lie. Yeah, I mean it doesn't surprise me. I think Mirror Universe episodes are kind of fan favorites in a lot of ways. You know, people love them, they love revisiting that, and you know, I mean we'll get into talking about these, but I think this one in particular had a lot of really cool stuff going on. So it was like quality episode and a new show, and it was Mirror Universe, the perfect trifect of awesomeness. Well it wasn't actually Mirror Universe, it was alternate.

34:59 Well, it was multi it was multi universe. But we spent all our time in. The Mirror Universe, numerous universes, including the Mirror Universe. Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, So Paul, why don't you step in and uh get us started. Get this whole triple a roll in all right, man, So we'll do both these episodes, so I'll just run through really quickly, give the most cursory update, and then not just really get us bogged down, because I know sometimes it gets full time consuming. So let's start off with the first episode triple called Quest, right, which is to me kind of like somebody just could not leave that toun alone right from the band, and I'm like, I don't know that. The ill recapped about how they need a special material called bosonite to help kickstart the Proto Star drive because they need to be able to basically create a miniature star to create the Proto drive. Right, that's my understanding of where we're at. So Jane Waye is like, hey, you know there's a planet. There's a natural supply of it there. So they've beamed down there, and Jacote says he feels like something's off. He just says, there's only just scant traces of bost tonight. There's not nearly as much as they want. They're cruising around on the planet, surfaces landing party and they run into a trible.

36:20 And another and another and another, and. Way out of character, one of the tribles bites rock Doc right, and then a huge triple the size of like you know, you know the boulder in Indiana. Jones throws up right, and everybody runs for their lives, right, and they jump off of a cliff, and in the course of that jump, a zero is injured, right, And because of that injury as Zero and Jencom have to beam back up to the protostock, right, surprise, surprise, surprise. And this is all reminding me with these big tribles. I don't know if anyone remembers. I'm betting Uncle Jim remembers a picture called critters. Oh yeah, yeah, eighties sitting asked that you are right, who doesn't love critics? But that's totally what this episode is remind me of, because these are a lot more kind of mutated and aggressive tribles than we've seen in the past, right, And they're just rolling all over the place causing trouble. And then of all things, I don't know that we see these very often. We run into not just a Klingon, but a Klingon scientist. Okay, we're not see too often, right, doctor Kruvong, right, who's been dispatched here to this planet by Chancellor Martok who's a personal friend of the show, and he's trying to conduct experiments to basically help eliminate the trible menace from kling On society.

37:39 Right, And so. Rock Talk is very excited to see another scientist slab and says, hey, you know, I think what might happen here, is if we could get a retrovirus put together here, it might help us get this both knight, because that both knights right in the heart of this trible nest, of course, because where else. Would it be. Of course that's where it is from thee. Of course that's where it is. And I love it that rock Talks is so excited by this, you know, happenstantical harmonic convergence that refers to it as a problem tunity, which I thought was great.

38:24 It's my favorite word, dude. Problem tunity. And I love I think that to me, it's one of the nice things about this episode is is basically rock talks perspective and her undying enthusiasm for science, right, and and how she takes it so seriously. So she's in the lab, working away in Kruvong's lab on his bird of prey right, and gets a big hit of the sneezes starts sneezing everywhere. And sometimes when you sneeze, there's parts of your internal systems that might escape your body without you knowing about it, right, And that might happen here. Meanwhile, back on. The protostar, Zero is realizing that his injuries just don't heal, and he says, well, I kind of knew that this body was never going to last forever, and Jenkin Pog says, well, you know, when something can't be fixed, you can try to build something even better, which I suspect is a line that will pay off in a couple episodes. It doesn't pay off yet, but still it's very interesting. So we may be getting some kind of a cool new containment system for Zero down the road, it's my guess.

39:29 And then there's a very interesting conversation where Gwynn and Migel talk about looking for purpose in life. That's just kind of basically a filler moment for a little bit of character development, until there's a huge noise coming from Krouvong's lab and they run in there and there's a whole new creature that has been made from the contaminated cell cut culture that is a result of Rocktks sneezing into the agar if you will, right, and it's basically kind of like the most ridiculously cutest triple with a face that you've ever seen, with like eyes and everything, and uh, they decide to name it a Brible for some reason. I'm not one hundred percent short. It's got the little face and you know everything, and there you go.

40:11 And if you know, Playmates stold the toy license and screwed it up. So royally they'd have uh, you know, targets, but they. Screwed up, didn't you anyway? Exactly? Yeah, Playmates totally like food barred their way across the American retail landscape and. So we don't even get a rock sock figure. Thanks playmates for really screwing up. You know, if you come on this show, we could have given you some good advice and maybe save the franchise, but no, we're too busy, all right. Anyhow, crank. Did I say that? Sorry, somebody forgot to install the filter Today Crumbang calls the Bribble an abomination repeatedly, which is great. And because of this accident that happened in the lab crew, uh ROCKTC has like a mini crisis of confidence in her abilities as a scientist, which is really nice to see and just I think it's something that younger viewers can really relate to. It's like I meant to do well, I screwed up, And when you screwed up, you feel really really bad.

41:15 When you're young, right, you really really do. You're like, you know, no. Excuses, you just feel like your entire self worth is you know, coming apart at the seam. So I really love the Rock Doc characters fondness with science and they're just being so upset when something doesn't go right. Anyhow, the science team splits up into a bunch of different groups, and Doll and some of the other cadets. They place some transporter enhancers around this subterranean uh you know, deposit of bosonite because they really need to get it right. And so once those enhancers work, Janeway Hologram Janeway upstairs on the UH on the ship is able to beam the basnite directly into the protocore boom. Really good, we got it. Okay, we make our miniatures suns. But then a giant ship ton of big tribles attacks, right, I mean, just so many of them that they're there. The transporter enhancers have destroyed, so the arrest of the cadets have to come in and extract the science team so they get out of there, right. There's a suspenseful moment when Gwynn falls, Doll catches her and the other cadets along with doctor Kruvang come in to try to rescue them, and Kruvang is just like, I will go out and take everyone with me to save my honor, right, and he so bloodthirsty for the Tribles. He tries to basically destroy the bosonit Vain, which would just wipe out the entire area, right, and Doll's like, don't do it. And then it's very suspenseful. But then at the eleventh hour, this new Bribele is able to somehow telepathically communicate with

42:46 the other triples and cause them to cease their hostilities and save the day. So the Bribele ends up being this wonderful thing. So Kruvang is able to go home and back to Cronos with his honor restored and a way to keep the trible menace at bay. It's a great message for kids, I think with Rock talk about not feeling like a failure if you make a mistake, and the way she puts it is you know, wrong answers can lead to entirely new discoveries, which is excellent, where your mistakes like a badge of honor. I think that's a really great for any student anywhere. Student's life, student of anything, right, You're going to screw up in the course of your journey and uh And I think that's a really cool message. And so the episode ends the Protostar Drive is online and they are headed to go find Voyager. So I would give this I kind of would go online with a lot of the reviews I've seen, I would give this one an eight. I'd say a solid eight. You know, it's kind of waffling in between an eight and a nine, but I like the you know line with my convictions. I think it's pretty good. It's a goofy title. I don't know, it's kind of a filler episode, really, I mean to be honest, I mean nothing in terms of really super high stakes happen.

44:00 But it's a good episode. It's very entertaining, and rock Talk definitely carries it through. Have we seen Uncle Jimno? Have we seen Klingons of this ilk on Prodigy before? My memory sometimes fails me. We did see some Quingons in season one, but not as prominent as this. This guy had a character name, and you know, they referenced Martok and all that stuff. So yeah, so I think eight is where I'm gonna land on this one, right, so good stuff fun, but there's absolutely contribute to the mythology of this season's storytelling. Not really, we just needed to go to the gas station and get some gas. So I enjoyed Crack Mirror quite a bit, which is the second episode. At this point, shockingly, Rock has gone against naturalism ethos and has taken the Bribble, and rather than leaving it at its natural environment, is adopted, it brought it on board the ship. Oh my goodn it's there with everybody on board, and the proto warp is proto.

45:07 Warp is not working. They drop out of warp and they see voyagers. Those things must be great, right, Everything's got to be good. Chacota's got a new uniform, he shaved, he looks good. He's excited to go see Janeway and he's excited. I wonder why. And meanwhile they ask poland Graham Janeway on the protostart if they wouldn't mind baby sitting the Bribble and they be o. They're greeted by the Doctor and it's all great. It's the doctor always reassuring. When you see the doctor, right, he's always positive, encouraging. Everything looks great. It's fantastic. And they're talking about, oh, looking forward to me and the Admiral and I bet you're really looking forward to meet her, And the Doctor's like her, what do you mean? Because in this place that we have found ourselves, there is no Admiral Janeway. It's Admiral Jellico. And the Doctor explains along with Jelico, that Janeway perished on the Infinity trying to save Chicotte from the wormhole all the tight Doctor newm oh my god. And so in a quick bit of exposition with the Doctor and Rock Talk and everyone.

46:08 They realize they're on the wrong voyager. Right, that there are they're in some kind of crazy multiple realities overlap, if you will, which we get confirmation of because everyone's splitting up because there's so many of them. Right, And in the turbolift, some strange kind of energy wave washes over Gwindala, right, and her armband is only created to basically keep her stable in one reality, not numerous reality. So the other half of the group goes down to Sick Bay and they find this crazy abandoned level where Sick Bay would have been, and they're realizing, wait a second, Wait a second, every deck of this ship seems to be conveniently another universe, which I don't know why. It just magically, you know, split itself out like that, like a spreadsheet, but that's how it did.

46:56 Right. And in this creepy abandoned part of the ship, they run into Dadian Okona, right, who is getting a paycheck for doing some voice work. So there you go, and he talks about in this area. The backstory is that the vessels, Oh, you're should be worried about you guys, because your weapon destroyed the Federation and this ship was left for scrap. So and they're confirmed, Okay, we're moving to a bunch of different realities, right, And they look out and they see that there's a weak spot in the fabric of the universe. It's created when they proto worked an interphasic rift I believe Gwynn calls it. That is actually in the process of splintering through Voyager, which is the thing that is responsible for their being all these different universes on every deck, and it's tied to their quantum signatures. At some point, somebody even references that there's a Captain Tuvik's in one of these episodes, right, Rock and Zero end up on one deck and they see beings from that Aaron Walke Season one, All the World's a Stage episode. Remember those same cats that the whole universe is them, right, you know the ones who saw star check and made a whole life out of it from the you know, very theatrical. But they basically realize they need to fix this rift if they're going to basically be able to put all these different universes back when they belong. So it's crazy. So they ask o'conna, basically tell him to beam them directly up to the bridge.

48:24 And that's when things really get interesting in this episode because we realized that in this particular thing on the bridge, it is not just another universe, it's a mirror frickin universe. Okay. And we get a look at Jane Way and there she is, and I must say, other hosts, judge me if you will, but Janeway is looking pretty hot in her outfit here and you know her evil you know plant there, Yeah, with her you know, sleeveless, you know, leather outfit on or whatever you want to call it. Okay, I'm I'm a sick individual. What do you want? But she's looking pretty good, and she's even got like, you know, seven of Nine's like borg implanted on her fore head, right, and she's just having all kinds of fun being evil along with Evil Chikote, and Evil Chicote wants to put Murph in the Agonizer because this is the mirror universe, right, but Murph kicks his ass because Murph's taking his new job as security officers a art.

49:14 So once he's been ass kicked, Archkote masquerades as the evil Twinchkote in order to be able to get them up to the bridge, but they run a foul of Evil Janeway because she realizes intuitively that that is not her real Evil Chakota. And there's a funny moment where they're in cetacean ops and they realize that even the whales are evil, as jenkin Pog says, right, So they're being hunted throughout the ship. Janeway's trying to find them. Evil Chakota is hunting them, and then Janeway ambushes them eventually on the bridge. But then before all this nonsense resolves itself, jenkin Pog trips the force field but lists to escape. They are sealed on the bridge so they can recalibrate the deflector dish, because this is you know, how many times have we used the deflector dish to help solve a problem? Right, It's like, you know, it's your emergency flashlight, you know, when things are screwing, you just recalibrate it in a special way whatever the plot requires, and there you go. And so that's how they're going to basically seal the weak spot in the fabric of the universe, right, and fix that interphasic rift that's causing all this, Right, So they're going to use the deflected to do that. But before they can do it, and you know, apparently the reflected has to like warm up a bit like a nineteen sixties television so of course ready to go, it takes a little time, right, So they're waiting for that to recalibrate. Guess what the Loom show up. Okay, the evil monstrous time eating Loom people.

50:39 So the Loom are there and they attack the ship and Evil Janeway has a great line she says to the murph, drop it goo bag, which's pretty funny, and there's a lot of Hey, you know, your ass is just as much at stake of dying as ours is pleading between to Evil Janeway Mira Janeway and says, you know, listen, you're going to get destroyed too. If we can just use the Deflector dish, everybody can go back where they belong. And it's like we never even met, and Janeway kind of agrees. She's like, okay, you know, doesn't mean we're friends, but what you're saying makes sense, so she agrees as the plan to defeat the Loom. The Loom bursts through though, because it takes a while, right, and it's very suspenseful because it looks like Gwynn is just about to be devoured.

51:32 By the Loom. I mean, it really does. But right at that same moment, she manages to hit the button to fire the Deflector and then everything is good. The Loom are destroyed, and finally, finally Chacote is reunited with his Janeway, the real Janeway, the Admiral Janeway, and we discovered that Tysis and Neom are still alive because we're back where we needed to be. So finally we've been reunited and everyone is back. And I thought this was a fun episode, right. I enjoyed it. Again, not a huge plot. Advancer for the whole season as such. So these were two kind of standalone episodes that just kind of moved things along a little bit.

52:20 But it's great to see the reunion happened between Chakota and Jane Way, it feels like the chaos is starting to diminish a bit and that everyone is back where we need to be. And so now that we're all reunited again, it feels like we're going to start to accelerate and move towards whatever those plot threads are that take up these next six episodes. So for me, I would give this one a nine. I thought this one was very entertaining. It moved really quickly. I love the different aspects of things, I love the Mirror universe. It was very intrigued by the way things go, like the dynamic relationship between the cadets. So yeah, I think a good solid nine eight on the first one. So that's my take, and I think those were a couple of pretty good episodes. But I don't mind admitting I'm really looking forward to a good, solid two parter again where we're getting back into the the actual focus and drive of this season's overall arching plot. So ready for that and next week, we'll have another two parter which is going to be great. So excited to go. Thanks appreciate it. Fellas, who's going after me?

53:32 That would be Dave. Hello. Yeah, So I I was really hoping for that triple episode to be a little bit better. But here's my take on it. So, I liked the idea that they came across. I guess you could call like a triple homeworld in a sense of trying. They're like the uh, I don't know, castaways, the Pilgrims, trying to find another home world after the Kleanons apparently destroyed those from the past. But so I like the idea that there are different sizes. It was interesting the idea about the Tribles kind of like, I don't know, there was just something about it that just didn't feel right to me. About the idea that Tribbles had a society where they were in kind of like a what's the word, kind of like a bug thing that they got going on, you know, the whole unification kind of thing. They just kind of like as they were rolling around, it just seemed so synchronized. It was just like it just didn't seem tribble to me.

54:54 It just seemed like a different type of specie that was just like, okay, well what happened like a hi. Hi, there you go, that's the word because they've been and whatnot. Yeah, so that part kind of bugged me a little bit, just because you know, Triples are from ts or in instance. You know, they were just mainly focus on eating and multiplying, which they kind of were here as well, but it was just I don't know, looking deep and deeper into it, it was just kind of like trying to get the whole culture aspect of them, and it just didn't seem Triple to me. But yeah, this episode had a couple of interesting parts to it, and uh, the the whole area that they were in this kind of remanded me like the Zerbs. I don't know if you guys ever heard about the Zergs before from StarCraft or anything, but that's what it reminded me of the Little Home Plan.

55:52 It was like, Okay, this looks dangerous, so, you know, just completely looked bare and I don't know how to Triple survive anyway when they landed there, but that's my nickpicking. But anyways, well, I think the idea was that what I understood was that the Klingon scientists brought the Tribles to the planet tried to fix them. The thing went wrong. He created monster tribles, and the monster tribles killed everything that was on the planet. Maybe I think that's how it went down. At least that was how I read it. If that was the case, then it might be a little bit better. But AnyWho, So, yeah, I like the idea that the Tribble that Rocktok were holding, you know, just kept multiplying every time you go to the next scene, was like, there's two more and out to multiplying. And man, I don't know what it is about Jacob pod though, He's got the best lines in this entire series.

56:51 Dad jokes. Yeah, I mean when you were talking about with the bird, you know, all those puns, and now with the Tribles, just like well yeah, anyways, and especially in the next episode, Oh my gosh, it's my favorite line throughout the entire series that he said, now even the whales are evil. I just couldn't stop laughing throughout that entire episode. But anyways, back to the triples, that whole mutating tripple with the eyes and the mouth and the arms, and everything. It's I was like, Wow, they'd gotten fired with this one.

57:34 I was a little surprised of you know, I mean, I'm I guess it's supposed to look like rocktok because it came from her DNA, but with the big eyes and everything, and I was just like, Okay, it's kind of interesting. And but to me, I don't know, I was a little disappointed in this particular episode. So if I is anything else concerned, I would have to give episode and eight not quite there. But it was just in a sense that this I was hoping for more anyway, but I'm glad that bringing the bubble along, so, I mean, that's an interesting name for a trouble. But other than that, I was just I was hoping for more but going to the next episode, so to me, this, I know, I was like, what's that? So anyways, the next episode, this one actually surprised me. I was I was actually shocked to find that this different reality going through a turbolift or transporter reminded me a lot of another series that I recently just watched, and it reminded me of a show called Sliders. Have anybody else heard about that?

59:06 Jim Love Sliders. Yeah, going from off, yeah, going from different. Every time they would land on a different floor, it was a completely different reality and something similar to like Sliders was the exact same thing. Every time they would go through the portal, they would end up in a different, slightly version of the own reality, and it was just like, that's a very interesting take on this. And of course if nobody have seen Sliders, the guys have a very young Jerry O'Connell in there, which is kind of interesting. So but yeah, this episode actually really surpried me. I was.

59:48 I was actually really happy actually that this episode kind of got a pretty high score with the IMDb and Paul and Hoping the other and the host here. So I don't know, there is there's a lot to it that I thought would really cool, and the whole evil whale or the uh, the fact that you get to meet past characters from the show, which kind of fun, and Tuvi's you know. Yeah, I don't know. It's about this episode. I almost want to make it like one of my favorite episodes in the entire series right now, And of course it's going to get a ten.

1:00:36 So I actually really enjoyed it. Not much else to stage from what I can remember. But this episode really surprised me. That's all I gotta say. But yeah, eight for the first one, ten for this one, and that's my take on it. All right, Eric, You're up next. Cool? Uh treble called Quest first of all, Like the first time I heard that name, I was like, Oh, they're referencing a tribe called Quest. But then they didn't name the Trible Quests, so I was a little disappointed that they. Follow through with that, But I I found that enjoyable. I know that the trouble with Edward I think was the first time that we heard what the scientific name for a triple was. So it was nice to hear that kind of recalled here in this episode. It made me remember that, uh that star Trek short I do, I couldn't remember. It seems to me that there's another klingon scientists somewhere in one of these shows that was important, and I was I was having a hard time with my memory trying to figure out who that was. It was, Oh, yeah, that's right.

1:01:48 Or something like that. Yeah, it was to reverse the melting ridge thing there. Yeah, okay, so that you know, this guy was a little bit reminiscent to me for his like his little borgame plan or whatever it was they had over his eye. It also, I didn't have a chance to look up there. It almost shouted like he had like a spanisher, like a Latino style accent. I'm not sure if the actor does or not, but he just had kind of an interesting English accent as a klingon that I thought was unique. So that was cool. You know, I already said that problem tunity is my new favorite word. Definitely as an apocaly optimist, I appreciate a good problem tunity. I love that they pulled in the grain from the Station K seven into this one where it was that like quadrash quaquadra. Yeah, that's what it is, quadri centric kle.

1:02:50 Yeah. So another reference, you know, this one was just like reference after reference. I you know, I found it kind of like Paul to be sort of like it was fun. It was definitely enjoyable. You know, one of those ones that doesn't like move the ball forward in terms of the story very much, but but has a lot of those kind of themes that we see in Prodigy of friendship and teamwork and all that all that really cool stuff. We did get a little bit of a deeper I think Paul references a little bit deeper exploration of rock Talks character, you know, where she like loses confidence for herself.

1:03:31 And I mean, let's be honest, she's the one who's literally saving the day all the time. And I always think it's kind of funny that in this show it's not the engineer who says the day like it is in Coos Star Trek, it's the scientist. I mean, I guess it was also Spock, So maybe it's a lot of remove but you know what I'm saying, Like rock Talk is basically doing a lot of super heavy lifting here, and I appreciate that about about her character. But she doubts herself in this one, and you know, comes with that great line don't when you hang you know, don't hang your head when you make a mistake. We're like Madge Honor. So I dug that. For being an episode about tribles, I will say it wasn't There weren't like jokes, which was okay because I feel like we got some good jokes with O'Connor and whatnot in the next episode. But I guess I would have expected, you know, if you go with the tea best triple episode. It's silly and they're they're jokes, and there are those kind of like deadpan looks at the camera and that kind of stuff. So I would have liked to have seen just a little bit more of that here. And you know, when the when the Bribel comes out, uh, I might be.

1:04:42 I might be getting one of those left to see. What's pretty snugly. So I'll give that first episode an eight as well. I think that's a very fair score. As for the mere episode, I totally dug it. I mean, I know they go through a few different universes there, they tease me with Captain Tuvix, but then they don't actually show Captain Tuvic's shame on them. I do like that in this kind of timeframe, so they're supposed to be it's like twenty three eighty five, I think is the year that they're in. And so at this point, like from DS nine, we know that the Terran Empire kind of like collapses, right and from the IDW comics, if we already use those kind of like our beta canon on this, we know that the empire is not as cohesive as it once was. A lot of the ships that were part of the Terran Empire are out there being pirates, kind of doing their own thing. That's where Mirror finds himself in the Mirror Enterprise d in most of those IDW comics, So it wasn't off to me here that we see Jane way she talks about the new Terran Armada. So that kind of to me is like, ooh, is there a little bit of like Surgeons of the Arran Empire happening right now? Is she part of the new Taran Armada? That sounds kind of cool.

1:06:04 Maybe she's the the center, the grand Admiral of the armada. Who who knows? So I like that little keys in this episode, the whale would be an evil, of course, hilarious. Loved it. I loved it. Of course the whale had like a scar across the eye because Mirror, you know, the joke. Majielle had the greatest joke in this one. When she comes back. Everybody's transported back, and of course she's been hanging out with o'conna, right and she she comes back and she says that was highly outrageous. It's just like you know, outrageous ocado. Anyway, I just would as soon as she said that, I just cracked up laughing. I thought that was the best joke.

1:06:50 So you know, the team is here, they're doing their thing, they're sticking together, they're getting through all the different universe. They saved the day in the way that they saved the day back in that shattered episode from Star Trek Voyager. So I really dug this episode for so many reasons, and I want to leave Charles a little something here, So I'm going to say nine and get out the door to nine for me. All right, Yeah, were your thoughts?

1:07:30 Well, one of the things they mentioned the trible episode was the destruction on one of the Klingon planets, and I don't remember the Tribles ever invading a cling On planet before. Well that was a reference. But wasn't that also referenced? Yeah, go ahead, But we did have. A large ship wandering towards the Klingon Empire with the remains of words and a bunch of triples it. I wonder if that may tie in to wear some destruction because I can't picture Kirk, what Kirk did had any cause to a Klingon home world.

1:08:24 No, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think that reference shows up in Deep Space nine. I'm not absolutely certain about that, but I think them devastating a Cleon homeworld or being real problems with Cleons is later on. It might have happened somewhere, but it might have happened somewhere, but I'm not sure a where exactly it happened. But okay, definitely modifying him to be aside from a triple to a small or to a large boulder was rather interesting.

1:09:09 But that I think the hosts are pretty much summed this one up, and I think I agree with the eight. On this one. And then the Mirror Universe, Uh surprise, nobody had to mention in the fact that when Jakota try to take him prisoner, it's. Like, okay, where's your mustache? Oh okay, I'll take some grease and painted paint of paint and must paint. Of beer on my face. So it's like, okay, we got to go to the traditional b uh Mirror universe with a goatee routine. I love the fact of don't trust a cute one as of course, like okay, you go with the cute one, and the cute one comes in and attacks Eva to Chakot and knocks them out, so we gotta learn yep. Oh, don't take Murrah first, He's a dangerous one.

1:10:18 Ah. I'm sure there were quite a few references in there to the Mirror Universe set all confusing at first when they were kind of bouncing around. I think every time they goes one group go to a turber lift, they went one place. Second group got in the turber list, they got shifted to it somewhere else. So it's interesting how they kind of went back and forth. I forgot what series we saw the I think that was Lower Decks where we saw the UH creatures trying to emulate immolate into the Federation. But that was definitely an interesting reference to them, and I think that's where Tuviks was so definitely interesting episode. I think I'm go agree with the overall group and go with a nine on this one.

1:11:28 A nine, all right, nine is cool. Nine is cool. So before I get started, we are still in an alternate universe. We are still not in the prime universe. Correct, You mean when the episode's over at the end of the Mirror. One, Yeah, Jacote is from fifty five. I'm trying to figure out the time here, because when they when they find the Protosto. Yes, we aren't a broken we are in a broken timeline right now. Right, we're still not where. Timeline, but we're on a but we're kind of broken.

1:12:11 We're on a segment. Yeah, we're we're not actually where we specifically want to be because the Proto Star was found on the gas planet and it's supposed to be on Tesla Mora, So we are still currently not in the the real Prime universe where we started from. So, and this is relevant because the triple thing that we're all with that we're complaining about and arguing about, isn't real. It doesn't happen in the Prime universe because we're not in the Prime universe right now, correct Eric, Sure, yep. Because until they go back and set and put the Proto Star back where it's supposed to be and reset time, everything that we're witnessing is basically a Kelvin universe type of a thing.

1:13:10 Is the easiest way I can come up with it. So, having said that, what we what we think we know about what happened with the Tribles, we don't know because this is a different timeline. So there you have that. But I did love the Klingon. I thought he was great. He had a little eyepiece kind of reminded me of Colonel Clink from Hogan's Heroes. I thought, I thought he was great. I thought the line where rock Talk says, you know, how can anyone how can a scientist keep his lab like this? And there's stuff all over the place, and you know, in corners and stuff. But he's a Klingon, you know, and he's a quing On scientist. That that.

1:13:52 I also thought it was great that they mentioned Mark Talk because since the end of Deep Space nine, we don't know anything about mart Talk. We we haven't even heard really his name. So I thought that was cool that they mentioned Martak. Jakota mentions the trible outbreak that almost brought the Klingon Empire to its knee, and again, this is an alternate universe, so we don't know. But on Deep Space nine, Wharf is arguing, well, I'm not arguing. He's having a discussion with Odo and Bashir, and Otis says, oh, the great Trible hunt. If you guys remember that episode where Dwarf says that they dispatched hundreds of Klingon ships to hunt down and eradicate the scourge of the Tribles, and that would have taken place long before Martok was Chancellor, so this is an alternate universe, not that it matters, but anyways, I loved it. I also really liked the Migelle's discussion on the Bird of Prey about vulcans do feel.

1:15:03 I thought that was some really good character development there. I thought it was weird that the triple bit rock because rock is made of rock, so in triplet, but I'll let that slide. I enjoyed the episode. I really enjoyed it a lot. I thought the quing on broder Pray looked great. I thought the general quingon looked really good. I really liked how Chakota was kind of giving Doll support when he reworked the tricorder to find a bigger vein, and he kind of gave him some encouragement and said, good thinking, Doll kind of, you know, gave him some words of encouragement. But I enjoyed this episode a lot.

1:15:48 And I'm going to go to the nine point two on this one. I gotta throw a decimal in there because I know Paul likes those. I was going to go with the nine point five, but I don't quite think it's at that level. So I'm going to go with a nine point two. That a nine point three or nine point one. No, No, I think I'm going to stay firm with a nine point two. Okay, I'm going to stay right there. Nine point two. Yeah, if there had been more Klingons than just one, I might have bumped it up a little bit. So maybe a nine point four. You don't think I wanted. The reference to General Martin justifies a nine point three.

1:16:29 I mean the Martin reference alone, I think it's worth you know, one tenth of the additional vote. You know, he's you know, yeah, you know, you talked me into it. I think I'll go with a nine point three. Yes, excellent. I'm tracking the decimal system. I'm learning to understand. So now the crack Mirror one is interesting. Did we not see a mirror universe? I d w comic book with Jane Way and her Pirates. Mirrors. Yeah, yeah, and I don't remember it was a while ago.

1:17:09 But did Jane Way have the bored implant in that episode in that comic book. I don't think she did. She definitely had to like cut off sleeve thing going on. But and her hair was different. She had like the tall the tall Janeway hair. Yeah, I don't remember, but it made As soon as I saw that, I immediately thought of that comic book that we reviewed on Comic Corner, like Ages and Ages and Ages Ago. I love the evil Whales thing. I wish they had put a go tea on the whale. I would have lost. I love. When Jacob does even the whales are evil. I just I lost it. Jacob is great. Evil whales are great.

1:17:56 The Goate's were always kidding about that you gotta have to go tea if you're in the Mirror universe. And yeah, they even Murph got a goatee, so that was great. And I liked how Evil Mirror Jane Waite kind of came around at the end and helped them blast the news so that they could get out of there. And I really, I really really thought that that Gwen was going to get wasted by the Noom. It was close. It was looking like, oh my god, they're going to offer, but they didn't. At the last minute, she was able to get it done. O'Connor showing up was definitely outrageous, for sure, highly outrageous, highly highly outrageous. Yes, And like Paul said that the people from the star Trek planet there, which I think was lower decks, right, was that lower decks?

1:18:57 No? That was that was season one. That was the episode all. I think it was all the world's of stage. Right. We remember the ensign Garevic from the shuttlecraft from Obsession. He crashed his shuttle craft on the planet, and they somehow saw the captain's log, right, and they started to make their whole culture based on everything right they right, It was like they based their entire culture on the original series from what they had seen from like Garvik and Kirk's logs on the chellow crafts. And somehow two Vics ends up as their captain, which I you know, anytime you can bring two Vics back, that's awesome. I just wish we had got to see him, but the fact that he was there was enough for me.

1:19:44 So I really I enjoyed this episode, especially the Evil Whales. Thought that was great. Jacob Pog is awesome, and Zero's body I think Paul is onto something. I think Jacob is going to build a body or something versus Zero, because they were looking at Jacob's hand at the end. At that final scene exactly like. Alien's powerloader was the first thing I thought of, Right, I'm like, yeah, magic and build them a new suit, but we'll have to wait and see. But overall, I really, I really enjoyed this one, and I'm gonna go with a nine point three.

1:20:35 All right. I thought they were both great, I thought, but for different reasons. I thought the triple one was just was just a fun, quirky episode, and they didn't get back to Voyager. But we're still a little bit away from setting things right. So well, I hadn't actually thought about that fact that they weren't necessarily back in the prime Prime universe, so to speak. Yet that is kind of interesting. So a good point on that. Well, we did that a couple of weeks ago when when they found the Proto star on the planet and bird Guy was dead.

1:21:20 Well no, I mean, yeah, no, we knew that. But the fact that when they burst back through the thing here at the end of this one, that they still have not returned the Proto started where it needs to go part of the original timeline, so right. To fix to everything, so everything is still broken, yep, you can get. So, So what's the group, what's ther group scored. Birdman could still come back. We could still see Birdman again. Yeah we could, Okay, Well, the fans gave the triple episode of nine point five. The host gave an eight point two six, which for Paul will around to an eight point three.

1:22:13 Times and thank you for and for our mirror. The fans gave an eight point six. The host gave a nine point two six, which were round to a nine point three. All right, so in this one, definitely the host rather for the mirror to the triple episode. And is that more in line with imb D Paul? Well, Pobby was muted for a second. There can you still hear me? Okay, yeah, yes we can hear you. Yeah. The trible episode, they gave it a seven point nine, right, and crack the mirror got an eight point four, so it was about half a point higher.

1:23:02 So not a huge variance. But this has been pretty consistent throughout this season, right, I Mean there were a couple of them that were like high sevens, like seven point seven, seven point eight, right, but overwhelmingly almost all of these episodes get like in the mid eight you know, I would say, is you know even the uh devour of all Worlds episodes, right, that was the one where we had Wesley Krusher come back, Right, that got really high, almost to nine like eight point seven's for both of those too. I think those have been the most highest rated in terms of like, you know, Broad and IMDb is weird because it's not like necessarily representative of like all Star Trek fandom. It's more, you know, kind of a little bit more generalized. So I think you can kind of get a little bit more of a neutral perspective from the IMDb because it's incorporating, you know, viewers who were just sort of cursory viewers who were just judging at a zone not necessarily that they you know, are worshiping it the alter of KALs, so to speak.

1:24:01 Right. So, but but I will say that what we've got coming up next, a two parter, looks like it is I won't bother you with the numbers, but it looks like people really really really liked it. And there's a two partter of that concludes. The season that it looks like people really really realized. So I think it's going to be strong. I got one hundred. It's going to finish some very strong I'm not going to give you my numbers, but just the feeling is that there's not a lot of weak links in the chain this season, and I've been enjoying it immensely. Fellas, how about you? Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, definite, for sure. Yeah, I hope. I hope they can keep going. I would love to see them get renewed and get a third season, right, I really really do. I think I think these are the very creative bunch. And uh, you know, I think part of the reason is I love the I love the carryover with Voyager. I love really loving Chakote, right, I think he's just terrific.

1:24:57 I'm really enjoying him. I always love Janeway, right, and so to have those characters coming on and getting the bonus episodes of Voyager, it's just a treat. So I really like that. I hope they continue with that, you know, because. We can ask Aaron walk about that if I can get him to come back on. Now, man, he's gonna have you know, all these these you know, lives and dies by the NBA, Right, So it's just like you have to just hope we can get him at a time when wouldn't it be great if like he agrees to do the show right, and then like the very next day he gets the green light for season three. Right, he doesn't have to be quiet about it anymore. He could like, actually, you know, talk about it and he couldn't go into details. But but but that would be so great because he would be in such a good mood.

1:25:47 That's what I'm hoping happens. I hope that, you know, the Netflix numbers are strong, that everybody's been watching it, you know. I'll have to see if I can get a sense. They got a big award recently. I don't know if you guys saw that or not. I'm not sure if I can. Pull it up here recently, but it was. I think it was The New York Times. I'm not on threads right, so I don't have the threads at but but he put a I'll find it and see if I can bring it up for us to look at. But Aaron put up a big thank you to The New York Times. Okay, I've all which is, you know, Matt Everest right for including Star Trek Prodigy on your list, And I have to figure out what that list was, right, So I'll try to track that down.

1:26:35 But it sounds like they were, you know, presumably you know, best show streaming right now or something. But I'll try to track that down. But it sounds like when The New York Times is leavin you and you know you're getting that kind of attention and you're you know, it seems like that's gonna go a long way towards I would think influencing people do to give them another shot in the arm to keep going. So God, that's why I hope I'll track that down though. Fellas. All right, well guys, you know what time it is now, well in the. And they're up on the corner by a ghetto with another alphabet invent everywhere, eliminated, misery and green.

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1:27:56 To shake things up a little bit. So there you have it. It's time for our Star Trek birthdays, and we always like to start off on Star Trek birthdays by remembering those members of Star Treks families, sadly enough, are no longer with us, and for that returned to Eric. This week we start our remembrances with actor Christopher Collins. He's the actor and comedian who made four appearances on Next Generation in Deep Space nine. He plays Captain Cargan in the TNG episode Matter of Honor and also Grim Baddelala in the TNG episode Samaritan Snare, but the majority of his work is in that Transformers and Gi Joe franchise zone. He was Cobra Commander on Gi Joe. He also played the voice of Starscream you know that voice on Transformers, so lots of cool voice work. He branched out into movies and that kind of stuff as well.

1:28:47 Was even the original Mister Burns on The Simpsons. Believe it or not, But Chris Collins, we lost him way too early at forty four years old back in nineteen ninety four. Happy birthday to him. Happy birthday as well to Venita Wolf, the actress who appeared as Yeoman Teresa Ross in the TOS first season episode The Squire of Gothos. Just a real short stint on television in the late sixties for her on shows like The Flying Nun and The Monkeys, Gun Smoke, all the usual suspects, and that was about it for her television career, but we did appreciate her work in this episode. Venita Wolf lost in twenty fourteen at the age of sixty nine years old. Happy Birthday, Happy birthday to Harry Landers, the actor who played Arthur Coleman in the TOS third season episode Turnabout Intruder.

1:29:34 Landers definitely best known for his regular role as doctor Tedda Hoffman in the popular nineteen sixties medical drama Ben Casey and then later in that nineteen eighty eight reunion movie that they did. For the show. Harry Landers lost back in twenty seventeen, but he did live to the ripe old age of ninety six years old. Good for him. Happy Birthday to Harry Landers. Happy Birthday to Merrett Butrick. The American actor best known for his role as doctor David Marcus that David Marcus, son of Kirk in Star Trek two, Ratha Kahn, also in Star Trek three, The Search for Spock, and his photo of course, appearing in Star Trek six when Kirk is being quoted about how he's never trusted Klingons and what they did to his boy.

1:30:20 He later played to John in the ATNG first season episode Symbiosis as well. But this was an actor that we lost way too early. He died when he was only twenty nine years old, and in that time still managed to find his way into a half dozen or more movies. So too bad that we lost him so early. We did lose him way back in nineteen eighty nine as well. So born in nineteen fifty nine, lost in nineteen eighty nine before his thirtieth birthday. Happy birthday to Merret, buttrick also happy birthdays? Who Reggie Nalder, the actor who played Ambassador Schrass in the T ANDNG second season episode Journey to Babel, our first Andorian. We get to see he was casting a lot of kind of like menacing roles because he had some burns that he got as a young man on his lower face, which is sort of see through the Andorian makeup. But you see him more in places like The Manturian Candidate, and he was in that nineteen seventy nine adaptation of Salem's Lot a couple other things.

1:31:23 Along the way. So ready Nowder lost in nineteen ninety one at eighty four years old. Happy birthday to you. And then we have the twins. Happy birthday to Alice Andres and Ray Andres, the actresses who were in the TOS second season episode I Mud as part of the Alice series Androids. Alice herself didn't do too much acting. Ray was in a couple of things along the way, including I guess. They were both in an episode of Bonanza together. They did show up on Batman as well, which is pretty cool. And they were singers in a jazz pop route in the late sixties called The Sound of Ceiling. So Happy birthday to the sisters.

1:32:10 One lift to be. Alice lived to be sixty eight years old, lost in two thousand and five. Ray lived to be seventy two years old, lost in two thousand and nine. Happy birthday to them, and that does it for our remembrances, guys. So I'm going to pass this birthday candle over to Charles. Thank you, Ray, I just got a view on my list. Happy Birthda to Andreo Wiener, the actress who played Kestra Troy and Star Trek's Next Generation seventieson episode Dark Page. Happy Birthday to John Pick Connolly, the actress who played Orange Lote in Star Trek's Next Generation The Sixties an episode True Cue. Happy Birthday to Murray Sterling, actress who played Turquinn in Stara Trek Enterprises third season episode Exile, Happy Birthday, Williams, actress from Los Angeles, California. Hoop Poop trayed Lisa in char Tek d Space nine fifth season episode Children of Time, A very warm Happy Birthday, Amy Lindsay, actress who played Lain Star Trek Voyger's seventh season episode end Game and a Happy Birthday. And Michael Horton, actress who played Daniels and Star Trek First Contract and Star Trek Insurrection and Cooking in Star Trek Voyager's fourth episode Retrospect.

1:33:43 That's it for my birthdays on your list, Paul. Thanks, Charles, appreciate it got all kinds of folks. August is the popular month to be born, apparently first of all, happy birthing. It goes out to Anthony Call American actor who played Dave Bailey in the original series first season episode. The Core Might Maneuver. Pretty cool. This is a great character. You got a lot of characters like this in the first season of Star Trek original series. Who were you know, young members of the crew, right, but who weren't just like yes, I'm doing what you're told and you're ready to be killed. Who were explosive emotionally right, like the really racist. Guy who's against Spock and balance of Terror. Right.

1:34:25 It's like they really made sure that they were cool, flawed characters in supporting roles right to really showcase and be relatable and very interesting. I would say Bailey is definitely one of those characters you know, starts out, he's just totally you know, freaking out as no impulse control at all, and he really goes on through a whole arc where you know, by the end of the episode he's getting to be an ambassador to represent the Federation with Baylock. So it's a terrific performance from this guy. Anthony call you did a great job and all over the place in sixty television. So really cool. But I love that role. I love Bailey, Bailey are relieved and then happy Birthday did the great legendary Dee Bradley Baker Okay, actor who voices Murph on Star Trek Prodigy and countless other characters in this series. If you are also a Star Wars fan, and are any familiarity with uh A show on there called a bad batch when you've got a bunch of different, like, you know, clones of different you know, strengths and iterations, kids like five of them.

1:35:36 I think it is right, Yeah, a flawed batch of clones. Yes, Dee Bradley Baker voices every single one of them. I mean it's crazy and they're all very different, right, They all have different voices. Some of them are more like, you know, sound like Nazi royalty. Some of them are the big bruiser guy, you know. I mean, it's just it's and he does all those different voices. Dee Bradley Baker is unreal, super cool guy. So he's just done as a ton and ton of work. So happy bake Birthday, man, take care of that voice. You never get a break. D Happy Birthday also goes out to Virginia Aldridge, actress who appeared as Lieutenant Karen Tracy in the original series second season episode Wolf in the Fold. Very Cool Jack the Ripper Riff written by the great Robert Block, who went we of course should know, wrote the original Psycho book that Psycho is based on.

1:36:31 So Robert Block really cool. But I think a lot of folks love Wolf in the Fold. It's a pretty cool episode, right. The idea of a spectral Jack, the ripper entity, and evil entity we run into those in Star. Trek all the time. Happy birthday to Italian American Paison actor writer Stephen R. Shirippa Okay, who played Carmine in the Enterprise four season episodes episode Stormfront is storm Front Part two Sopranos fans of which I am one, I will of course know mister Shariff as Bobby Bakala from that show, right, so really great, what a presence, really really just awesome on camera, very likable individual. I've seen him riff on the Bobby character on episodes of Sesame Street where he's done little parody episodes there. So he's just terrific, very very great talent, seems like a lovely person. Happy Birthday goes out to the phenomenally cool Michael Berryman.

1:37:32 Right. Michael Berryman, I love him from one of my favorite Star Trek Next Gen episodes from season one, Conspiracy, Right, he is so cool. Played Captain Rix Right, who's one of the folks that first meets up with Picard and lets him know that things are afoot. Michael Berryman is a very interesting looking cat, very unusual looking, right, And he also was in Star Trek for the Voyage Home, where he played a starfleet display officer in that particular picture there, but he got a lot more screen time in a conspiracy in Next Gen. Really it's the cat often gets cast as like bad guys or monstrous type individuals.

1:38:16 I remember him from a really amazing horror picture. I love the pulpy road horror pictures from the seventies. Man, they are just so so cool and some of them are just they just what I almost think of. It was like drive in movies, right, really really fun to check out. And one of the great ones was from nineteen seventy seven, The Hills Have Eyes. It's been remade. You don't necessarily want to watch that one, but watch the original. Watch the original, right. I think it was the first box office hit that Wes Craven had, right, And it's just amazing, really really creepy. And Michael Berryman's like on the poster because he's so unusual looking and kind of scary, right, And Michael Berryman is great. But if you're looking for a good dose of seventies horror that does not hold back. I recommend check out Michael berryman in the Hills Have Eyes and go watch Conspiracy again because he is awesome in it. And finally, for me, Happy birthday to Laura Patniak, actress who played to Prill, who we all are getting to know on Star Trek's Strange New World's second season episode.

1:39:31 Charades, which I thought was dynamite, which is terrific. So lovely to meet the Spock family in the Topring family and see them coming together in what almost feels like a sixties I love lucy moments for. The in laws. How will they get along? I'm not sure, but a Laura Patniak fit in just great and I thought, really just brought a lot of great life. I love seeing the Vulcan character on Strange New Worlds. I think they. Don't play them in a stereotypical way. They seem to open it up and make them more interesting and relatable, and I think that's cool. So God, I'm just what that next season to get here. I mean, I'm you know, I love what they're doing on that show most of the time, I really do. But anytime we have a Spot centric episode, let's see if we can maybe or at the Prings centric episode, let's get Laura Patniak and the rest of them back there, because I love what they're doing on that show. So what a bunch of great individuals to be able to celebrate this week. Those are all such winners and delightful performers, and they're all still with us, so it's great to be able to celebrate them all.

1:40:46 It is actually Laura Patniak's. Birthday today, so God only knows what she's up to, but I hope you're celebrating tremendously here on September fifth. And I'll pass this nuclear protostar enhanced uh nuclear atomic rift bearing birthday camp over Jim to continue. And what a shock. Uncle Jim has a star Trek? Is it star Trek fort fun. I'm not sure who Jim is going to be celebrating here, but I bet there's somebody on there, so. Let's find out, Jim, take it away. Yes, thank you, so so so much, Paul, I only have two. I only have two. I always do the Klingons unless they're dead, and then of course Eric gets them. Uh. But we want to say amplah to Rosanna DeSoto and who is she?

1:41:42 She's the actress from stan Jose, California who played as a Bore and Star Trek fixed the Undiscovered Country. Uh. She became the chancellor when gor Khan was killed. So happy birthday and kapla to Rosanna de Soto. Not quite as good as Star Trek five the Final Frontier, but an excellent Star Trek movie nonetheless, loaded with Klingon and Odo and wharf. Lots of good stuff in Star Trek six, go and check it out if you haven't watched it in a while. And last on my list whose birthday is today is Annabelle Wallace. She's the actress who voiced the USS Discoveries sends you a Computer Zora, and was also on Star Trek Short Treks Calypso and continued on Discovery as Zora up on the Golt five when it ended.

1:42:40 And that, my friends, wraps up our Star Trek birthdays. Hard to believe. And now it's time for Star Trek news. I already one message from Starfleates coming in on. Secure channel incoming transmission. Andrew authorization code command codes verify parameters of program level nine authorization required. That's a fine parameters. Transfer update is complete. A back alert, back alert. All right, Eric, you get to start us off this week with some sad news. Yeah, you may have missed if you're up on the news that we we didn't mention one new remembrance, which unfortunately happened this week. Actor known for Star Trek, Gidget, and TJ. Hooker dies at eighty eight. James Darren, who went from teen idol status acting in youth oriented movies like Gidget, to becoming an actor in TV shows such as Deep Space nine, where he of course played Vic Fontaine and TJ.

1:43:45 Hooker. He was also a singer and director. Unfortunately, we lost him Monday at Cedar Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles. He was eighty eight. His son, Jim Morritt, said that he had been able to express his love for his family while being treated in the cardiac unit. Quote. He was a good man, He was very talented. Moret said he was forever young. More said that he was grateful that his father had been able to embrace his signature role as the surfer Moondoggie in the Gidget movie, and that he continued to interact with his fans. Born in Philadelphia, he studied acting with Stella Adler in New York and was signed to Columbia Pictures, where his first role was in Rumble on the Docks. He went on to appear in films including Operation Madball and Gunman's Walk, before being cast in the nineteen fifty nine teen movie Gidget, starring Sandra d and Cliff Robertson. Darren also sang the title track for the hit movie, which was based on the experiences of a teenage surfer girl in Malibu and later became a popular TV series. Moving into television, he starred in the series The Time Tunnel, and after a brief sojourn in Italy, appeared in Jess Franco's Venus in Furs.

1:44:56 He went on to guest star on numerous series, including Love American Style, Fantasy Island. And The Love Boat. Darren was a regular on TJ Hooker from nineteen eighty three to nineteen eighty six and also moved into TV directing, working on series including Beverly Hills nine h two one zero. And Melroe's Place. He found a new generation of fans in nineteen ninety eight as Vick Fontaine, the holographic Lounge saker on Star Trek Deeps Based nine. He's survived by his wife Jim Morritt, Christian Darren and Tony Darren and five grandchildren. So very sad news that we have lost Sickfontaine. What a great character from Star Trek Deeps Based nine. Really so many people's conscience on that show, which I think was one of the things that I really appreciated about him a lot.

1:45:45 So Happy birthday, whatever his happy birthday is coming up, we will be celebrating his life again. But for the moment, we just lost him the other day. So that is our first news story. Jim, all right, and I've got the next one. Paramount is celebrating Star Trek Day by making Every Trek premiere free next week. In honor of this year's Star Trek Day, Paramount will make the premiere episodes of each and every Star Trek series bearing one available to stream for free online September seventh through the thirteenth. We you can watch cos As the Cage Encounter a Fipoint, The Emissary, Caretaker, Broken Bow. The animated series be on the Far of the Star, Strange New World, Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Second Contact and Discoveries Vulcan, Hello, and The Cards Rememberance will all be available to view your leisure. Additionally, multiple episodes of short Treks, including The Girl Who Made the Stars, The Trouble with Edward, Ask Not Run Away, and Ephrem and Dot will also be made available. Notably absent, however, is Lost and Found the premiere episode of Prodigy a snub, further solidifying the Doom Car tune as the true black sheep of the Star Trek franchise. Aside from those, each episode will be available on Amazon, Apple, Roku, Paramount Plus's official YouTube page, Pluto TV, and Paramount Plus Free Continent

1:47:16 Hub in the US only. Sorry. Paramount has additionally partnered with Code dot org, Do Something dot Org and Outright International for Take the Chair, Make a Difference, a Star Trek branded campaign charity encouraging fans to embrace the optimistic vision of a brighter future and give back to the inclusive community. The campaign invites fans to see themselves in the iconic USS Enterprise captives chair themselves what would I do if I were setting the course to the future. Lastly, fans will also be able to celebrate Star Trek Day at an array of interactive pop up events, including the Taste of Chicago and Chicago, Illinois featuring a rep of the USS Enterprise iconic Captain Chair. Elsewhere in both thurl in Germany at the Alexa Mall, and Vancouver, British Columbia at the Richmond Center, you'll be able to find a modern architectural interpretation of the Captain Chair crafted from sustainable materials.

1:48:20 All three locations, you'll be invited to capture a photo, obtain a personalized mission, and receive a limited addition enamel pin upon taking the chair. So Happy Star Trek Day and Paul too, well, you know two things, man. So I gotta take issue with something from that article, all right, because that's what I do. I take issue with things. Right. I got to take issue with referring to Star Trek Prodigy as the Doomed Cartoons. Sorry, I'm going to push back on whoever wrote this. Dude. It's doing great, really rocking it up on Netflix.

1:49:05 And if you go find that New York Times article I mentioned about basically reviewing the state of the universe as far as current Star Trek goes, they basically say that it's the best thing going. So again, it's like, if you haven't watched Prodigy. Get in there and check it out, because it's awesome and it's certainly no doom show. I think it's got a lot of legs and life left in it, and it's the most vital stuff happening. And also, dude, who wrote this article, you didn't say when Star Trek Day is. We can't assume that everybody knows that, right, because for crying out loud, let's be accurate with this stuff and specific and start Trek Day is, of course, the day commemorating when Star Trek was first put on American television, which is September eighth, which is this coming Sunday, so most folks have Sunday off, hopefully, so it's a great day to celebrate a Star Trek and watch a little bit something. So sorry, just got a little rant there, Shaun to go ahead and do this next news story, Jim, I got the vapors.

1:50:04 Well, we talked about it last week and we survived it, so I thought we should talk about it. All right, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna jump in there all right. I'll try to be quick because I know we're run out of time. The bell riots, right, which we just commemorated on August thirtieth of twenty twenty four this year, And nothing too horribly happened. But ten things you didn't know about the Bell Riots. Ready you have to read quickly. The Bell Riots are an enormously significant event in star Trek. Starfleet would never have been created without them, so their impact to be measured in the organizations deffect on the universe. However, for as important historical moment as they are, they have only been depicted in a single story from d Space nine with an illusion to Picard Past ten sees Cisco, Bashir, and Dax travel back in time to San Francisco in twenty twenty four. There they witnessed firsthand just how dark the world had become for the less fortunate members of society, as well as the apathy permeating the United States.

1:50:57 Hmmmm. Life imitates art. The story, written in the nineties, grew inspiration with well documented historical events while also seemingly serving as a chilling, reprecient depiction of things to come for our future. On August thirtieth, twenty twenty fourth ree start Fleet officers arrived in our time. This is the breakdown of what and how the things that followed took place. They didn't want to do with Martin Luther King Junior. When The Bell Riots writer Robert Hewitt Wolf and Iris even Bear wanted the greatest event that trickled through starter history. They knew that the story would involve time travel, with Cisco replacing a crucial participant in the past. They didn't want to make him Martin Luther King Junior, and that they wanted to avoid having him lead a march or making the speech that would reverberate through history. Nine. It began with homelessness. The sanctuary districts to earn their name as they were areas of hope for the homeless, and they're down on their luck residents of America. While we will explore just how much of behavin they become. They were inspired by Robert Hewert Wolf's discomfort and worry about the growing number of homeless people in Santa Monica. Eight, We're gonna do concentration camps. Bear drew inspiration from the Attica prison ride in nineteen seventy one. There were several parallels between Past Tense and the Attica riotes. So perhaps clearest, excuse me, clear my instruments the clearest of the reasons behind them. New York State's prison inmates were demanding improved conditions within the overcrowded facility Attica, which had just been designed to accommodate twelve hundred prisoners, had a population that swelled over twenty two hundred dog day afternoon Check it Out seven talk about timely. While the writers were breaking

1:52:30 the story for Past Tense, an article appeared in the La Times that deeply unnerved them. Titled Homeless Camp Wait in La Industrial Area, it discussed plans to open a fenced in locale based on a similar center in San Diego, for homeless transients to voluntarily visit. The center, the article advertised, would have showers and laundry facilities, as well as a lawn for people to sleep on. Oh Man six, setting the scene, Bearrist needed that they weren't actively trying to make a big blitt statement when writing Past Tense, though in classic Deep Tase nine, fashioned political statements were rarely far behind any script the show produced. For example, looking at the three officers dumped into the past or treated the lesson subtle racism is key to how Past ten cents of its narrative, Dax, played by the Caucasian actress Terry Farrell, is welcomed with open arms. Cisco and Bashir, played by distinctly non Caucasian actors Avery Brooks and citic al Fadim Alexander Sidig, are treated with hostility and repulsion. Five.

1:53:32 No criminals allowed in Our Havens. Star Trek Sanctuary districts were designed as havens for homeless people or financially destined to people to find shelter, a place to stay, or food. They were also specifically designed not to allow entry to anyone with a criminal record, attempting to shift the perception that they were designed as prisons. In reality, residents were given very little choices to their lot in life. Basher bemoans the lack of medical care afforded to the people he sees in the process in Center, while Cisco described the district there's a bad mistake in Earth's history. As he later explains to Bashir, the districts are a symptom of the overwhelming issues faced by contemporary people, the eight point in history, leading so many who needed help being deposited inside.

1:54:13 Four. No one thing is simply one thing, Biddle Coleridge or BC, named in honor of Deep Space nine Assistant director B. C. Cameron was played by Frank Military. In Past Tense, he is a ghost, one of the residents of the Sanctuary Districts that lead towards violence. He is introduced as an unpleasant person hassling Cisco and Basher. The later is shown murdering Gabriel Bell. In his scuffle, he takes the processing center hostage, coming face to face the Cisco now claiming to b Bell. It would have been easy to write BC as a saratapual thug who uses murder as a means to an end. However, Bear was insistent that they needed to make him something more. BC murders Bell in Past Tense Part one, and the murder isn't discussed at all in Part two three. What were the riots for?

1:54:59 The demands the district residents may include the closure of the Sanctuary District's jobs for those inside and the reinstitution of the Federal Employment Act. This act, repealed some time before twenty twenty four. In Star Trekt was based on the Real Employment Act of nineteen forty six. While the Act is far from perfect, it does inspire any government to continue concentrating on employing the population with it repealed the United States of twenty twenty four and Deep Space nine simply had no reason to do anything to change. Two. It's not my fault and nothing ever changes. Lee, played by Tina Lifford, was a public health officer in Sanctuary District A. She is one who processes Cisco and Basher on their arrival and becomes one of the hostages when BC overtakes the center. Lee was designed to be a browbeaten official, constantly underpaid and overwork, trapped in a job that was sapping her life. When Basher helps her, she gives him a little of her story of recounting the time she allowed a woman to edit the district despite having a warrant for her arrest. The woman, she explained, had abandon her baby with people who could care for him.

1:56:04 Knowing that she could not, Lee took pity and almost lost her job for it, setting into a life of just doing the work. Basher kindly tells her that it isn't her fault the way the things are. Lee's reply, everybody tells themselves that, and nothing ever changes. Succinctly delivers the message of the episodes and Finally, one life is like a soapbox Iris. Steven Bear reflected on the episode of the Year's Past, noting the Past Tense has been reviewed as too liberal or soapboxy. The episodes had to balance the message of the riots, as well as weaving Star Trek technobabble and some lighter elements to make it all work. Clint Howard's character provides some comic relief, while Kira and O'Brien's trips through time add some silliness, something director Jonathan Frake's wasn't thrilled about, although he does credit Past Tense Part two and Cause and Effect as the two episodes that got him the directorial job on Star Trek First Contact Iris. Stephen Bear ultimately feels that Past Tense was a success. It was released in nineteen ninety five, the year that Forrest Gump did big numbers at the box office while also helping audiences feel good. Fair had this closing comment in the Deep Space nine companion on the matter. Yes, it's important to feel good, and I'm not putting that down, but in reality, in nineteen ninety five,

1:57:35 Forrest Gump would be homeless. I just thought it was important to show the other side, and if you've never sat down and watched those classic Deep Space nine episodes that we've been discussing, we are referring to past tense that took place in the year that we now find ourselves. This strikes me, as we lead into the coming last week's leading up to an election, as an excellent time to watch those episodes and ask yourself, what kind of future do you want to live in? What kind of future do you want your descendants to live in?

1:58:17 Uncle Jim? That is an excellent question, and the best way that you can is to register to vote, get out for the poll and pull that lever. Okay, So that wraps up our show. Can you believe it? Wow? I want to take this opportunity to say thank you, of course to Charles for hanging out and trek talking with us tonight. Thank you so much, Charles, Thank you, it's always fun. And of course thank you so much to David, although he didn't bring the donuts, that's okay, Thank you David, God you're fun. And of course thank you to our very own Eric for hanging out and struck talking with us.

1:59:02 Thank you Eric, absolutely, Thank you guys, and of course. Thank you to Paul for so much for hanging out with us to night. Thank you, Paul, It is my pleasure, always a blast. Enjoy Star Trek Day this coming Sunday this weekend, and if you're at Portland, Oregon, go to Rose City Comic Con and rub elbows with Captain Lorca and all the other amazing guests and track me down. I'll be wearing a Zany T shirt, so I'll be easy find. Is your picture on the T shirt? H No, I'm not wearing that T shirt because I have an not that T shirt. No, I have you know, I have to.

1:59:44 I have to spread myself across many genres. Okay, that's cool, Well get you fear not. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim Staying. Everybody, please stay safe and be good to each other, and remember Star Trek f fans are the best fans. Hailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody. Good night all. Let's see what's out there. And gag.

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