Nov. 8, 2024

Star Trek Lower Decks " DOS CERRITO" & "SHADES OF GREEN" REVIEW

Star Trek Lower Decks " DOS CERRITO" & "SHADES OF GREEN" REVIEW

LOWER DECKS IS BACK!!! LeVar Burton honored, and Netflix just did what with Prodigy?

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Season 4Star Trek Lower Decks

On this exciting episode, Uncle Jim and his Treksperts discuss Lower Decks episodes "Dos Cerrito" and "Shades of Green". That's not all, we have Star Trek Birthdays, and fan shout-outs. Star Trek News: NetFlix made a mistake with Prodigy, LeVar Burton honored at the White House and Fan petition for another popular character hometown statue. Let's see what's out there...ENGAGE!

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You was head enough for that feining of make it

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so everybody, let's go.

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Series.

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You go.

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Upon now about.

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The series coming to love.

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About the.

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Common low.

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We coming he didn't.

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Well, good evening Treki's and Trekkers around the globe. But

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it's Thursday, November seventh, twenty twenty four, and this is

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episode six hundred and eleven. Can you guys believe that

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six hundred and eleven episodes of trek Talk. And we

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couldn't do it without you, guys, so thank you so

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much for supporting us. We have a really good plan

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for you guys. Tonight we're going to be covering lower Decks.

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That's right, Lower Decks is back, and we're going to

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be talking about dos Cerritos and shades of Green. I'm

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your most excellent host, uncle Jim, and I know we

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have a lot of international listeners because we do our

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fans shout outs all the time, and I just want

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to assure you that there are still stay people in

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the United States of America, and I'm one of them,

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and my co hosts are as well, so you don't

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have to worry about that. We got your back. And

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before we go too far, I want to introduce Eric.

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Eric is out in Portland. How you doing, Eric?

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I am doing okay tonight. We did have a very nice,

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warm day and I stood out in Sunnen and just

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sort of absorbed it and thought to myself, you know what,

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I could do this.

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I can do this.

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So there you go. That was my day and you

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did it.

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And we also have with with Paul the toy guy.

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He's also out in Portland. How you doing, Paul.

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I'm doing well, sir. Why would I not be doing well?

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Of course I'm doing well.

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Now.

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It's a good week and the whole some interesting stuff happened.

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Had a good thing happening was the weekend. It was

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superstitiously not say what it was, but it was the

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first time it's ever happened, and I was very pleased

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about that, and it was very auspicious so it made

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me feel really good, and he's giving me the fortitude

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to continue on and so it's good. So yeah, an

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interesting uh you know, uh, an interesting period of time

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hit on Earth as we have, and I was excited

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we're going to be discussing, uh, because this is our

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first sit down that we've had since the return of

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lower tacks and so we had, you know, guests and

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holidays and Halloween and all kinds of nonsense. So we're

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running a little behind, but we're finally going to get

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a chance to talk about lower decks and it'll be.

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Interesting to compare perspectives.

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It's always interesting to compare perspectives, wouldn't you say, Uncle Jim,

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I would agree with that completely.

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And also, I'm going to stick out in Portland with

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the David. He uh he didn't bring the donuts tonight,

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but he's still here. How you doing, David?

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Doing pretty good. It's been kind of a slow day

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for me for some odd reason. But other than that,

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no donuts, hi, guys, but uh, maybe later in the future.

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Now you weren't getting into that boldy cheese again, were you.

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We're a good thing. It wouldn't mold me down at

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that would have been a way big problem.

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That would have been bad, very bad. And we're going

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to go out to Las Vegas where we have Charles.

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How are you doing, Charles.

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I'm doing all right. Eric enjoyed a warm day. It

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was a rather cool day around here. But when you're

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having to deal with the green orions, the blue orions,

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and we're waiting for the teal orion to show up,

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who knows what's going to happen next.

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That's true, You're absolutely right. We have no idea what

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color orions may appear next. We'll have to watch lower

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decks to find out. Well, I've had I've had an

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interesting couple of weeks, and I'm actually glad we're going

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to be talking tonight. My father died last week. As

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some of you may know, we didn't have a show

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right before Halloween because my father passed away. So that

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was that's how things started out for me. Of course,

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my met's had a good season, but they failed at

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the end. I threw my back out. I've been out

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of work for a couple of weeks. I have to

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go to therapy tomorrow, and so things have been pretty

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dark for me lately. And then of course there's other

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events that happened the other day which are extremely dark.

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So you know, I'm trying to see the light at

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all right, guys. We always start off the show with

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your name from yours truly, uncle Jim, then you are

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going to be mentioned in a fan shout out. So Eric,

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who do we have have to say hello to tonight, Oh.

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Jim, People from all over this great, great planet love

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This week.

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We're going to start out in Ireland and we're going

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to say hello and Live long and prosper right back

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to you, to kurrog Boy Paho, who sends us a

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hashtag LLAP and a little Live Long and prosper hand

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to boot, which I'm sure is exactly what caught Jim's attention,

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as we all know. So kurrogboy Paho, Hello to you,

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peace and long life to you over there in the

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beautiful country of Ireland. I cannot wait to visit there

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one day myself. We are also saying hello this week

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to Marie Janicke Dobson, who has said hello to us

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from our friends just across the pond and adjacent to

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Ireland there in the UK England specifically flying that proud

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Union Jack flag and also sending us a little live

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long and prosper simone Marie Janickie Dobson. Hello, right back

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to you, and thank you for supporting our podcast over

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there in England. We're saying hello this week to Luke

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Ferdinand Niederer, who is saying hello to us from Berlin, Germany.

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Not one of those amazing places that I cannot wait

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to go someday. I have mary been there, but Luke,

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I'm sure you already know that you live there. Lots

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of cool history there. Thank you so much for saying

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hello to us, and a big couplaw to you. And last,

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but not least, on my list, I would love to

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say hello and just send a lot of appreciation out

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to Carolla Carolla, who is saying hello to us from Chile,

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also flying that proud Chilean flag. Corolla Corolla, thank you

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so much for supporting our podcast. And I'm gonna spin

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this globe and hand over the microphone to Charles.

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Oh, thank you, Eric, that's still warm. Welcome from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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Bruce McGuinty, Miguil and a Talk contributor Michael Sunshine Unshine

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Star who give us an lol? From Columbus, Ohio. Did

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you know Gas McFadden is from Akron, Ohio. I've been

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there a couple of times. Oh are we gonna end

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it with a statue in Akron.

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Ohio one of these days?

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From Kentucky, Welcome Raylan Griffin. How's it going to Kentucky?

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And from South San Francisco hanging out in South Bay,

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Welcome Charles Norton. But the weather's beautiful around San Francisco. David,

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who's on your list?

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Yeah?

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And I'm gonna say welcome to for listener people who

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have written on here. I'm trying for butchering any of you.

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Guy who's name because these are a little tough for me.

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But I'm gonna start off with John Bows. I think

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it's Tian said from Utah, So thank you for listening.

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And the next one on LES is welcome to Shasha

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Mauie Cunningham from Kansas, USA. A couple more on uls

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he and first off we're gonna say hello and welcome

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to Stephanie Walker from Florida, USA or United States quest

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same place last time a LES is a welcome and

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thank you for listening to toy She Peter from Oakland, California,

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and Paul. We're going to spend the globe, are we.

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That's right, man, grab on to the latitude with one

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hand and the longitude with the other, and just get

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ready to start spinning, friends. Because as Jim mentioned at

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the top of the show, we are an international organization here,

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the United Federation of Podcasts, right, and so we have

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listeners and we have fans on our Facebook from all

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over the place. It is crazy how many folks that

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listen to us all over the world. It's just wild.

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So and we're super grateful to have that international audience.

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To begin with, I'd like to say hello to our

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good friend Dimitar Trokowski, who is from Scopia, Macedonia. Absolutely

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fantastic hear from you, Dimitar. You've got the flag furling

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proudly there from Macedonia, and it's great to know, uh

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Or we already have that country on our Listen. Eric,

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I know you maintain a vast spreadsheet of all this.

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I actually looked us and that is our first shout

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out from Macedonia.

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Yes there, Scopia hitting it.

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Thank you.

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Somebody needs to colonize Mars.

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Exciting, exciting lights just flashed up on Eric and Jim's

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board here because of that. That's great. So very few

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countries left that have not joined the Trek Talking Battalion,

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so it's a wonderful to hear from you. Thank you

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so much for checking in, Dimitar. We really appreciate that.

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A little bit of an ocean. Apart from Macedonia, we're

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gonna over to Brazil from Mogidos Cruzz Brazil. I believe

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that's the southern province of Brazil, if I'm not mistaken

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to Danielle Silva flag of Brazil prominently displayed there. Awesome

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part of the universe. Brazil is pretty amazing, absolutely enormous country,

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full of amazing people, amazing wildlife. Absolutely great. Great to

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hear from you, Danielle, Thank you so much. And then

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not too far afield from Brazil, we're going to go

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ourselves over to Panama, the Republic of the Panama or

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pronouncing everything correctly there, although Aldo for Brizi via ya mil.

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Blows my line. So it's great to hear from you

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in the realm of tafe Vieo, it's our buddy Adrianne

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Teherna who is saying hello. So we are all over

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the Southern Hemisphere here today. That is amazingly wonderful. Adrianne

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i'ldo Danielle. And then let's not forget going back to

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So thank you European and South American friends, wherever you

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Uncle Jim, Now, Uncle Jim, are you there? Uncle Jo?

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Why? Thank you so much, Paul, thank you, thank you,

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Uncle Jim Sencha all right.

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Then her agents like, what write that down quick? That

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Uh Google at light speed.

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Leslie texted me and said she was excited because she

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telling me all about it and she wanted to make

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sure that I passed that on to you guys. So

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and whatnot about her experience over there. She does have

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her Freddie glove with her and I asked her how

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do you get that on the plane, and she has

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to check it with security and they put it down

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in the hole. She's not allowed to actually bring the

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Freddie glove onto the plane, but you guys here know

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she was a nightmare on Elm Street as well, so

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it's been a lot of fun. Go go and say

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hello to Leslie. All right, guys, Finishing up our fans

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you to Larry Sullivan, who's listening to us in Rhode Island.

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Wayne King, who's right now listening to us in Albeing, Texas.

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Dave in Rowan Oak, Virginia. That are finishes up our

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without any further ado. Do you know what time it is?

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Time?

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You know me like the wind?

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What you thought about the show?

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Then we try just share your opinions with all of

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our minions.

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Out there because they listen worldwide.

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Tell us just what you're saying. Get together, we will

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all drink Canara and robbyln A.

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All right, so I like to post whole questions on

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our Facebook page, which you guys can, of course interact with,

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and then we hell go over the polls on the show. Now,

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I usually do three polls, but since we have two

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episodes to cover, I only did two polls for this week. So, Eric,

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what interesting, factual, titulating, exciting, fun filled pole questions did

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I come up with for this week?

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Well, there are a couple of interesting ones here, Jim.

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I don't think we'll be too surprised with people's answers,

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but I do think a little discussion may be warranted.

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In the TNG episode's Birthright Parts one and two, Wharf

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gets romantically involved with Bayel, but he breaks it off

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when her romulent heritage is revealed to him. Do you

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agree with his decision? And twenty five percent of our

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pole response said yes, they do agree Wow his decision,

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but seventy five percent said that they did not agree

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with his decision. Now, listen her. Clearly, her race is

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like a major factor this decision, and I don't think

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that this is the first time that Wharf has kind

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of shown his true colors, so to.

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Speak, he says what I think.

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Yeah, but you know, he also is the guy who

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like continues to work on himself and kind of knows

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that about himself, and eventually he sort of works his

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way out of it. So no question to me, T ANDG.

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Wharf is is racist af But I think he?

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So let me ask you a question though, Okay, because

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let's read between the lines here, because it's a little

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while since I've watched birthright right, maybe more than a year, right,

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I know I watched it with him last year or so.

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But but but what do we really think here? Did

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he was it a was it like a oh, I

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can't believe you wanted to sleep with me because you're

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a romulan thing? Or was he more upset about the

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fact that she kept a secret.

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Like that from him?

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So is the fact that she's romulint that bothers him

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or the fact that she didn't come clean and she

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wasn't truthful with him, that that might be a variable

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as well. I'm just wondering, does the show come right

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out and explain that, you.

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Know, I'd probably want to go back and look at

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the the actual dialogue that happens. It feels to me

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like like it's he has a visceral reaction when he

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finds out specifically about her, like racial background. That's what

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I remember about it.

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Yeah, I think I had something more to do with

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the fact that Cleanon and Romulins were actually mortal enemies,

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so that probably took place as well. Always say that

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Romulins have no honor, so maybe he's looking for honor

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and relationship.

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Well said that Mulins. Romulins are a waste of skin,

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is what he said. Oh, that's pretty strong. I think

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I think that.

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You don't want to you want to drop that on

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a first date. Man, that's just that you're pretty much

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you know what I mean, and you're done.

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In my googling, I just found the script really quick.

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And yeah, it's hard to explain. Lingons and Romulans. Their

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blood enemies have been for centuries. They're treacherous, defeedful, and without.

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Honor done, and so it's kind of like I think

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they use warf as a way to show how racism works,

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and in this particular example, I think it works well

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because to Buyel, Buyel, it is nothing. It's not an

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issue to her being raised on a Romulan. Klingon was

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it internment camp. To her, it's not an issue. So

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she doesn't even par partling on. Yeah, on half romulin.

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But isn't he betraying his clingon thing by if she's

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part Klingon, he's turning his back on the Klingon. He's

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living like one percentage of her uh makeup, get in

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the way of you know, you know, I don't know.

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I mean it's me, it's a you know, yeah, they're

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probably going to come up with a different species then.

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Tent forward with Wharf.

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Right.

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If Wharf and I were in ten forward together having

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a prune juice, I'd be like, wh isn't it kind

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of hot?

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Though?

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I mean really, when you think about.

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It, forbidden, right, isn't that kind of you know, isn't it?

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Doesn't it get your battless polished? Isn't that kind of aude?

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I mean, come on, come on, So she's formula and

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no one else is going to be a you know,

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don't come on, dude, what happened?

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I don't think most Klingons want to.

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Deal with this community.

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The biggest thing I believe is that Wharf didn't want

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If I remember correctly, Wharf was concerned because she would

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never be able to show herself and a cling on

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empire and walk amongst Klingons was his concerned. He was

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concerned with what other Klingons would think.

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And you know, I cannot introduce you to my mother

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because she exactly she would not approve of the way

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your ears look.

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So just to remind me, was Alexander born yet or

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was Alexander happening later?

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I think Alexander was born, but Whorf didn't know yet

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because ka Lar didn't come back years old or something

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iron alert you know, No, we I think.

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We already dealt with him that that's birthright was the

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middle of season six weady dealt with Alexander another fact.

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Wow, so that's kind of making worth even douche here then, right,

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I mean really around it, right, I mean you're kind

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of impocrt dude, I mean he is. You know, they're

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never going to be peace in the Middle East with

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Wharf in charge.

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And well, so I'm like starting to wonder now I

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had said that he sort of worked his way out

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of it, but is there is there evidence that Wharf

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ever became not this way, whether it's in the movies

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or in Picard, like he and Eldore never got to

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cross paths.

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I think he I think he probably got a more

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peaceful version of war and for card sure, so I

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think he might have been more forgiving by.

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Then wait a second, hold on, guys, this wasn't a

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TG episode.

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I thought, Oh, that's that was six of TNG.

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Forgetting the most important thing though, charls beheadings are on Wednesdays.

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That's the most importan thing.

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What happens on Thursdays? We talk about it later.

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Well, you just have a you have a prune juice

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and you kick back. But I just I thought this

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was an interesting question to bring off because Wharf is

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an honorable cling on and he tries to live up

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to that, but sometimes he can be a bit of

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a dink and this I think is one of those instances.

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And as far as him ever getting over it, I

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don't believe he ever did. But when when the Romulins

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and the Vulcans unify and together become the var would

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he hate all? What would he hate Vulcans at that

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point too? You know, I don't know, But at any rate,

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that was our first question, and sticking with the Wharf theme,

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was trying to trying to stay on topic a little bit. Uh,

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what was our what was the next pole question?

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The next pole question was in the TNG episode Ethics,

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does Doctor Toby Russell make the right choice by giving

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Wharf the experimental spine? So you might remember that this

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is the episode where Wharf gets hit by the big

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blue barrel in the head. He takes some damage. They

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put him in sick bay. They say, brother, your back

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is broken. We can fix you. And he's like no,

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and they're like, no, really we can. And he's like

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no and they're like, dude, we can totally fix you

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up is a big deal. And he's like no, and

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then they do it anyway.

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So I say that the entire episode of Truk Talking

478
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:40.079
has been worth it just to hear Eric. Could we

479
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.559
capture that on tape and just put it at random

480
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:51.960
moments throughout the show, please. I just like, we need

481
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.519
a lot of mileage out of this man joint. Could

482
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:56.599
you do it again please?

483
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.319
I can definitely send Jim a SoundBite of me saying no, Oh,

484
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:05.440
I like it because.

485
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.119
You don't sound your voices in as deep as warf,

486
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.680
so you sound more like Michael J. Fox right before long.

487
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:13.400
But he'll take it.

488
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:14.519
I'll take it.

489
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:17.759
I'm getting a whole other version of this episode in

490
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:19.559
my head. Now, my whole head cannon.

491
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:20.119
Is just shot.

492
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:22.440
Oh my gosh, I love it all right.

493
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.519
Well, you know what, believe it or not, folks, eighty

494
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.039
seven percent of the people out there who answered this

495
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:31.599
poll said that the doctor made the right decision, and

496
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.079
only thirteen percent said no, way, he did not make

497
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:34.799
the right decision.

498
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.519
And so he does it against WARF's wishes, right, well,

499
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.599
he kind of does.

500
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:43.119
And you'll remember about this episode that this is the

501
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.000
one where Wharf is like, dude, I can't live like this.

502
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:50.720
I'm a klingon Riker, will you please kill me? And

503
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.240
Riker goes through all of this like consternation, and he

504
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.519
like goes to Troy and kind of talks to her

505
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.000
about it, and you know, in the end, he comes

506
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.799
up with this idea that he can't do it. And

507
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:06.480
so there's a little bit of a like whitewashing of

508
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.000
Wharf's culture. I think that's happening if you look a

509
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.559
little deeper into this episode. I mean, obviously everybody's like, well,

510
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.440
do we can just fix your spine? Like I was saying,

511
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.240
it's kind of no big deal. But also they're completely

512
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:17.759
adoring his wishes along the way.

513
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.160
Well, what it was is that, you know, Riker, being

514
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.200
the Klingon expert that he is, after serving on the pod,

515
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:28.519
he uh, he goes to wharf with the knife and

516
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:33.680
he explains the wharf that according to Klingon rituals and ceremonies,

517
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.640
it has to be your next of kin. And the

518
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.240
only person on the ship at that time that was

519
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.319
next to kin was Alexander.

520
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:51.000
Alexander right to kill wharf and which Alexander, Jim Which

521
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.440
Alexander is this young kid Alexander right?

522
00:29:55.920 --> 00:30:01.160
Yes, this is Brian bontel h Alexander. And and you know,

523
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:04.000
Riker goes to him and says, Alexander is to plunge

524
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:08.160
this into your chest. And at that point Wor It's like, well,

525
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.960
I can't have I can't ask Alexander to do that.

526
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:16.160
I'm asking you. And he's like, well that's not the

527
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.160
king on way, dude.

528
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:17.920
No.

529
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:23.119
Riker and his technicalities legals got data off.

530
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:25.640
But this is what I love about Star Trek because

531
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.519
always brings up these ethical conundrums, right, I mean they

532
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:30.720
ask you to consider it. Right, So here's the question, Right,

533
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.519
what if it had been the spine was made as

534
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:35.759
romulin DNA, he.

535
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:38.559
Would have said no and like torn his own spine

536
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:39.079
out after.

537
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:42.319
You would have torn his own spine out affect, he

538
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.319
would have really said, could do it? Do it?

539
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:44.640
Do it?

540
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.359
I think we dealt with that is later on. Didn't

541
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:51.920
he didn't?

542
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.160
Yeah, there's like a you let him die?

543
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:07.119
Yes, But the question, but the ethical question in this

544
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.240
episode really wasn't with Wharf. It was between Crusher and

545
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:17.000
doctor Toby because this particular h experiment had never been

546
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.200
tried on a human being before, on a living whatever

547
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:27.039
Klingon and doctor Toby told Wharf that this could completely

548
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.000
heal him and make him as good as new, but

549
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.440
Beverly Crusher was like, you can't test this contested theory

550
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.359
on somebody who's desperate to walk again. It's not ethical

551
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.400
to do that. And doctor Toby did it anyways, and

552
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:49.480
which pissed off Crusher. Made Work happy, but pissed off

553
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:56.599
Crusher because she didn't follow medical procedures. The question is

554
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:59.240
a bunch of We had a bunch of different ethical

555
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.839
issues that were all coming together in this one episode,

556
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:03.279
which is why it's one of my favorites.

557
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:08.880
What My question is is did doctor Toby, I guess

558
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.960
her name is did he use augmented DNA? Same thing

559
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:17.279
at Conridge? And that's kind of an interesting or.

560
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.880
I don't remember. I honestly don't remember what she did too.

561
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:25.160
I don't remember the intricacies of it.

562
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:29.240
But doctor well, I know I remember the deleted scene.

563
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.720
That's all I remember from the Blue Rays.

564
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:33.839
Do you remember that she was?

565
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:38.440
She was notorious, doctor CRUs Just like, just like, listen,

566
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.279
doctor Toby, where you're giving me a experimental spine. While

567
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.400
you're at it, can you give me some other experimental parts?

568
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.680
What can I see your menu of options?

569
00:32:52.480 --> 00:33:01.279
Nomula n Doctor Crusher already knew who doctor Toby was

570
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.759
because she had done this type of thing several times before,

571
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:09.319
and just because the outcome turned out favorable, does the

572
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:14.000
ends justify the means? Is the question? So this is

573
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:19.799
a great episode, you know, this one and the Bayel one,

574
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.119
I think are two great episodes to discuss ethics and

575
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.839
cling on on or so that's why I chose them.

576
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.119
So if you're one of them, so I love them.

577
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.880
I think I think we got so what do we think?

578
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:39.279
What did the Texperts think? Did doctor Toby Russell make

579
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:44.640
the right choice. I mean we think.

580
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.400
Well, I mean I think there's a little I think

581
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.920
what we've discussed here is that, in my opinion, there's

582
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.920
a little bit of coercion going on here. And I

583
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:56.000
know that Worf ends up like finding his way there,

584
00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.640
but Riker clearly uses his child against him as a

585
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:04.480
like a as a battless to make him do what

586
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.840
Riker wants him to do? And or or is it

587
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.280
that Wharf really has gotten soft over time? And you know,

588
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.679
the Klingon culture, I mean, listen, when you get I

589
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.000
think when you get to any culture, so to speak,

590
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.880
the culture matters to the people who are in it

591
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.159
or who practice it to different levels. Right, And so

592
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.079
one of the coolest things about Wharf is that through

593
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.639
all of Star Trek you're constantly getting this full klingon

594
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.280
guy who has all this stuff in his head about

595
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.719
what he thinks a klingon should be because that's what

596
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:45.880
he's heard a klingon should be. But really he doesn't

597
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.599
want to be that kind of a klingon. But he

598
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.719
battles against himself constantly. And this is just another one

599
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.519
of those like great things, just like the one before

600
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.280
this the like his racism, I started like joke about it,

601
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:03.280
but like his racism is really a vestige of a

602
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:07.119
cultural norm that he's not really even part of. So

603
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.920
it's just so interesting that he clings onto it with

604
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:14.519
so much fervor, because it's almost like people's hate is

605
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.519
what they cling to the most.

606
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:25.440
Yeah, have you noticed that? Speaking of Wharf being the

607
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.199
perfect textbook Klingon, but how do you notice that every

608
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:33.519
time Wharf runs into other Klingons, they are never what

609
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:39.159
they're supposed to be. According to his Klingon views, that

610
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:44.360
they're always lying, backstabbing, criminal, They put buyers people's arm,

611
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.760
they stab people in the back, they poison each other.

612
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:49.880
There without honor.

613
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:53.559
Is a little bit built on this gym, right, Like

614
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:55.719
I think you could argue that pretty much all the

615
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.639
way up to Gowran and beyond, Like there's honor, sure,

616
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.599
but there's a lot of that kind of like just

617
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.599
an idea of honor without it actually happening going on.

618
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:07.559
To I don't know. I think we need a Game

619
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.719
of Throne style TV show for clanon housers. I think

620
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.320
I'd be the greatest start ever.

621
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:15.800
That's a great idea.

622
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:20.239
Who wonder who I'm here in show that would be great.

623
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:25.800
Once about my.

624
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.599
Copyright attorney on the phone, hold on, hey.

625
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.159
Dam, I didn't say it was my idea. I just

626
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:33.679
said it we should get one of them.

627
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:35.559
But he's agreeing with you.

628
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:37.840
You think we record everything show.

629
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:41.119
I just want to you know, honor on the line.

630
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:48.199
But crazy all right, ethics, star Trek Reality. I love it.

631
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:51.440
The collision we're talking about things without talking about them.

632
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:52.039
I love that.

633
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.239
So here's my second talk Doctor Toby. I kind of

634
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.119
agree a lot with what's said when it comes to

635
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:06.159
his culture and everything. But why if the clean ones

636
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:10.639
were supposed to be you know, all this uh warrior Buffy,

637
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:12.559
you know, play.

638
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.760
If anything, that clean have feathered hair? Is that what

639
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:21.480
you're saying.

640
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.880
That, if they're supposed to be all tough, tough, how

641
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:33.119
about that? The idea is that how come he didn't

642
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:37.079
let Alexander finished him off with honor if that's what

643
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:37.960
his belief was.

644
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:43.159
I'm saying that, like what it's on the complication of

645
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.800
worst thing right, because he believes in his mind's eye

646
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.280
that he wants to be clean on clean on clean

647
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:49.400
on doesn't.

648
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.880
Want to be Yeah, I mean we could probably argue

649
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.920
with that but I mean, deep down though, he is

650
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.719
who he believed he really is and this conflict that

651
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.840
he has. Yeah, I don't know. It just seems a

652
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:03.119
little unclean on to me at that time. But maybe

653
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.360
it was just kind she would grown up with human

654
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:06.840
and so he kind of got back.

655
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.119
We're back to We're back to Wharf to racism because

656
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:14.199
Alexander was raised amongst humans and therefore is it can't

657
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.159
be expected to do the Klingon thing because he's not

658
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:20.519
a real Klion, which whi they explore later on Deep

659
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.679
Space nine when he does become a real Klingon and

660
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.519
serve on a warship. So yeah, we're back to Wharf

661
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:27.440
being racist again.

662
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:28.559
Yeah.

663
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.960
Well, you know there's tousy cleanon show, the idea that

664
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.719
they grew up around human that got the human values

665
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.480
of like you shouldn't let you could see that kind

666
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.760
of thing. So it's like, you know, maybe that's why.

667
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.639
I don't know, but it was just a little uh

668
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.320
thing that I got in my mind. But yeah, I've done.

669
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.199
Well. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna let we only

670
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.320
have two whole questions this week because we're gonna be

671
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.039
talking about two episodes. So I didn't. I wanted to

672
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.039
kind of shorten things a little bit, but I'm gonna

673
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:59.719
give you guys a little preview speaking of Wharf and

674
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.480
is it Worf has done and work ethics and his

675
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.880
values and his racism. I posted a question on our

676
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:07.480
Facebook page. I don't know if we'll get to it

677
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:12.000
next week or not. But in the episode Sons of Mogue,

678
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:17.119
when Wharf erases his brother Kern's memory and reprograms him

679
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.800
as another kling On, did he do the right thing?

680
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.440
Just something to think about and we'll talk about that

681
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.159
on a future show. So, without any further ado, guys,

682
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:26.840
it is.

683
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:38.920
Time forget training, all right, guys.

684
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:40.559
This is the part of the show where our very

685
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:44.880
own Charles goes back and does lots of research and

686
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.159
googling to find out all kinds of interesting fun factoids

687
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.599
about this week's episode of Lower Decks and how it

688
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:56.199
relates to other episodes of Star Trek. So, without any

689
00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:00.519
further ado, take it away, Charles, Thank you.

690
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:06.639
Jim and Boyd, And these two episodes take us across episodes.

691
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.199
Of course, let's start off wrought off the obvious one

692
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:17.079
TNG The Most Toy season three episode twenty two, when

693
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:20.639
we're dealing with collectors, and even go down the list

694
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.719
of some of the items that were in that room.

695
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:30.519
Another thing we ran into was voyager called pot the

696
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.400
Vulcan launch a game where they're using those little metal

697
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:38.119
rods to sit there and create that figure dimensional figure.

698
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.880
That's something that Tubax at two Tubox actually was doing

699
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:50.880
at one point. And we're dealing with parallel universes. A

700
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.360
couple of the obvious ones we can jump in with

701
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:59.920
cos's Mirror Mirror season two, episode four. In TG's Parallel

702
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.400
season seven, episode eleven, one of the characters that was

703
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:10.679
interesting in that was tos Star Trek three the search

704
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:17.000
for Spock. Captain Styles carried a swagger stick very similar

705
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:25.480
to the with that Mariner carried. Of course, we got

706
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:32.280
blue Orions the animated series The Pirates of Orion season two,

707
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.400
episode one, and somewhere I believe I read that it

708
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:41.320
was a production error and they made them blue instead

709
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:48.360
of green, and therefore got our blue Ryans lower decks,

710
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:54.119
several character references from previous episodes we saw in costume

711
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:02.079
of the characters in the episode, and at the end,

712
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.960
I'm muchure how many people caught this. TNG the rocker

713
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:15.599
maneuver when Boimler lifts his leg over the chair to

714
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.840
walk over and sit in the captain's chair. Then our

715
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:28.079
second episode TNG First Contact. This is where Pacar talks

716
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.599
about no longer the acquisition of wealth, whereas we don't.

717
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:37.800
Maybe's not using money anymore? Sailing ships a couple of

718
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:41.719
them there DS nine Explorers Season two, episode twenty two,

719
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:48.119
and then Prodigy, the Fast and the Curious working on

720
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:54.679
sale and we get to jump over to Enterprise. Doctor

721
00:42:54.800 --> 00:43:00.800
Flox kept a Parthian bat in a sick bay, presumably

722
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:07.480
for some medical purposes, such as vitamin enhance milk, which

723
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.480
Timdy was trying to give to her sister. That's just

724
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:14.360
so many references we could have gotten from these two episodes.

725
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.440
But if you go to the FanBook facebook page, Jim

726
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.840
will post use his Friday sometime during his lunch break

727
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.880
asking what people thought about the episode. So, Eric, what

728
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:30.960
do they think about these two episodes?

729
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:39.599
Okay? Eric, Eric.

730
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:48.639
Is no, No, did we lose him?

731
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:51.800
I thought he was talking.

732
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:55.920
He's on the board him, he said he's talking about

733
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:01.000
I am. I see him on the board. We don't

734
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:02.280
hear you, big guy muted.

735
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:05.840
Trying to disconnect and reconnect. If you tried turning your

736
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:10.000
computer off and turning it on again, I'll disconnects himself.

737
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:16.880
No wait, did we've been calling the album? You know what.

738
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.320
I'm gonna mute him from my board. There we go,

739
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:25.320
and I'm gonna turn I'm going to turn him back on. Okay,

740
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.000
there we go. So now I mute at him and

741
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:31.519
I mute at him on my board. Eric, can you

742
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:32.079
hear us now?

743
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:36.320
And you can hear it? You have a problem.

744
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:38.440
You can't speak?

745
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:42.639
Okay, calls on the phone line. Eric, call on telephone.

746
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.199
Okay, it's the Gremlins.

747
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:51.880
It's a live show. What are you gonna do?

748
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.480
You know they do live time to time? Yeah, so

749
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:56.159
it happened.

750
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.840
I mean it does all we've all, we've all had

751
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:00.519
a falls.

752
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.639
I'm sure that's that's what happens when we do a

753
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:07.239
live podcast. And you know, I got to it's not memory,

754
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:08.440
that's right.

755
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:11.599
I will tell you real quickly. My favorite you want

756
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:16.360
to Jim, you're a Planet of the Apes fan? Right absolutely,

757
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:19.199
I'm fill in time here until Eric gets back. I

758
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.280
wonder what does he say? I'm sure some of our

759
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.039
listeners are from South Carolina, right, did you hear about

760
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:30.840
the news story today. It's awesome No South Caroline. In

761
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:34.639
South Carolina, police right now are searching for a group

762
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.440
of forty escaped monkeys after a mass breakout from a

763
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:44.119
South Carolina research faculty facility. It is beginning, Uncle Jim

764
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:49.239
is beginning beginning. I just love that. I love that

765
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.719
they're hunting them, trying to find them with like infrared

766
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:54.400
cameras and nonsense. And meanwhile, I mean, forty is a lot.

767
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:56.960
I don't know that they can find all these monkeys

768
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.599
and what were they researching on them? For these boor bastards. Well,

769
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:03.039
I never find them. I hope they never get put

770
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:08.760
back in captivity. I hope they humanity.

771
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:11.679
We're in big trouble if they find them at the

772
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:14.320
Statue of Liberty. No way.

773
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.079
If you see them riding a horse, they're heading north.

774
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:25.519
Were waiting for Eric technical problems. I guess the show

775
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:28.079
must go on and we are going to forge ahead.

776
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:29.639
So well.

777
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.039
On a scale from one to ten, ten being the best.

778
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:37.000
What are Facebook fans think of? Rate and Star Trek

779
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.960
Lower Decks episode goes through Kenby Leonard gave it eleven

780
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:43.000
because I really really liked it.

781
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:54.800
Mary Stefan gave it a ten Tom camera camerita, so

782
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:56.559
it's now ken at the T O.

783
00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:57.880
T T A.

784
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:04.199
S Orion's are blue Hellers hither b Fulton loved it.

785
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:08.559
I'm so sad the show is going to end so soon. Yikes.

786
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:16.159
Evil Captain Freeman. David Ballard just finished and loved it.

787
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.039
Matthew Nash love to swear, make me laugh out loud,

788
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.960
ha ha ha ha. Shows how they can be. They

789
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:32.280
can use naturally and too good effect. Richard Gaffat. I

790
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.320
wanted to know how alternate Freeman end up at starbas eighty.

791
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:46.159
Christopher Bashan, I was cracking up with Riker's Beard and

792
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:51.239
Alison Young. They had me at they had me at

793
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:57.920
the other third, which is a total fan score of

794
00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:59.320
an eight point six.

795
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:00.920
Wow.

796
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:08.800
Keeping on with the Shades of Green, Jason Enos, I'm

797
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.400
kind of over the Orion story I've had in my

798
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:15.079
fill so I'm glad ten Day's back with the crew proper.

799
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.159
Kevin Wade. I heard the show isn't being canceled in

800
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:21.320
the other universe.

801
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:24.039
Wow.

802
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:28.800
I wonder what the end of episode two will do

803
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:36.000
with the tend Forward ship. Nathan Drawbridge Mariner was her

804
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:40.639
middle name let down. I was just expecting more elaborate explanation.

805
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:47.239
So our name is truly Beckett, Mariner, Friedman, Dale Jordans.

806
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:53.800
I love her adverse wrecker that the Becky Becky versus

807
00:48:55.480 --> 00:49:02.480
brad Ward did did take on the Big Chair, John Stanton.

808
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.440
I love that they made the blue Ryans that Kirk

809
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.119
tangled with back in the T T. A. S. Cannon.

810
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.719
The notion of them simply being an ethical minority is simply.

811
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:20.239
Check check check.

812
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:25.159
I also love that they had even had blue ones

813
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:31.840
say oh Rion like the old cartoon Mike Roberto found

814
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:36.079
tending and absolutely obnoxious. I couldn't sit through and rewatch

815
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:41.920
first for me. Steve sabol I'm not pleased. Gabrielle is

816
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:46.079
still listed as a guest star in the credits. Illogical

817
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:48.360
so I noticed.

818
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.119
Yes, sorry, I've noticed a lot of the people haven't

819
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.760
really put a score in when they were putting stuff.

820
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.679
And because Jim can do a Paul and did you

821
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.599
like the episode or not like the episode? And they

822
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:07.039
can use the average to do it, which gives us

823
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.800
a fan score A seven point five.

824
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:10.719
On this one.

825
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:19.199
Wow, not too shabby, not too shabby, not too bad,

826
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:21.079
not too bad, at.

827
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:27.039
All higher score were higher score for the firs first one, right, okay, y, yes,

828
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.920
all right versus seven point five.

829
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.960
Okay, Right, So Paul, why don't you give us our

830
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:40.320
our rundown, our our for the first episode and then

831
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:40.960
we'll discuss it.

832
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:45.000
Yeah, I you know, let me pull up my notes here.

833
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.920
Appreciate it. You know, I don't have a lot to

834
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.440
say about these episodes. I thought they were they were fun, right,

835
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:54.440
I think, uh yeah, I wouldn't give it as much

836
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:57.320
of a detailed plot breakdowns as we were doing for

837
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:02.559
a Prodigy for example, right, because the plot, frankly with

838
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.000
lower decks is a little almost incidental to the comedy.

839
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:06.480
Right.

840
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:11.039
Basically, you know, long story short for Dos Critos. The

841
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:15.000
premiere of this season is there's a spatial anomaly then

842
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.599
that never happens, and it forces the Critos crew to

843
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:21.239
face their own toppel gangers from another universe.

844
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.519
Right, And that was okay?

845
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:26.880
I think that you know, it's we've just seen that

846
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.159
so much, right, I mean, like go back to like

847
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.199
Charles's cadet training. I mean, you know, he has a

848
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.960
phone book full of you know, instances where we've seen

849
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.800
this a bunch, right, So it was all right.

850
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:40.360
That was fun.

851
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:42.480
It was fun to see Mariner depicted in a little

852
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.519
bit more of a alternate style than she is. Right,

853
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.559
there was some good toss off bits there. It was okay,

854
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:50.559
it was it was fun.

855
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:51.159
I thought it was.

856
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:55.280
To me, the best moment was our Toimerian friend Kashawn's

857
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.599
line gramble is his throat split by his misrest.

858
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:00.960
I mean that was you know, I think that was

859
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:02.719
the one that was the one.

860
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:05.199
Legit lap out loud moment for me where I was like,

861
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.880
oh my god, that's great. But a lot of good

862
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.079
sort of you know, throw off jet Gags' starbas eighty

863
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:14.679
seems to be getting a lot of references, which seems

864
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:16.480
to me like setup. So at some point I think

865
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.119
we're going to be seeing learning more about that in

866
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.480
episodes to come with me my guests this season, because

867
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:25.719
it seems like that's getting a lot of you know,

868
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.440
a lot of a lot of setup, right, is what

869
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.880
It seems to me a little for foreshadowing. But it

870
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:34.639
was okay, it was enjoyable, didn't you know? Bowl me over?

871
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:37.639
I don't think it really behooves us to get into

872
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.639
the whole detail of the plot. I will tell you

873
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.199
I would agree. I think it was our fan Jason

874
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:47.519
who said that the whole tendy with you know, uh

875
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:53.639
back on Oryan, you know, Mistress of the Winter Constellations thing,

876
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:56.360
that was funny for an episode or two, but oh

877
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.199
my god, it has just been dragged into the ground.

878
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:03.119
I'm so ready for that to be over. And ever

879
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:05.679
back on the ship is that it's just you know,

880
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.719
to Erica and all that whole thing and oh are

881
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.119
you pregnant? Are you're not pregnant?

882
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:10.679
And this and that.

883
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.320
There's just it's just really kind of, uh, We're out.

884
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:18.639
It's to welcome for me pretty quickly. So I would

885
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.119
be tempted to give it a six, but because I

886
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:25.199
think we need comedy right now really a lot, and

887
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.039
I'm just fond of the show in general, I think

888
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.800
my reading for this particular episode would be a seven.

889
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:38.400
More Kayshawn, more Ta Marians please. But we're not green

890
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:40.559
right now as well? Right, We're we're going and doing

891
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:41.800
them one at a time, is that right?

892
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.400
Yeah, we'll do shades of green there, We'll.

893
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.639
Come back to shades of green. Okay, great, yeah, Son

894
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:49.599
for me, I love to have it back. I loved

895
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:51.679
when we all just get together and convene and get

896
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:55.000
to review a new episode of anything. It's always just

897
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:56.920
fun to be able to do that. So I'm glad

898
00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:00.719
it's back. You know, we'll see what they do with

899
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:01.480
the rest of the season.

900
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.119
Yeah, and for sure, for sure. How about you, David,

901
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.719
What did you think? I loved it?

902
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:13.239
Oh my goodness, I'm glad Lowered Decks is back. It's

903
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:17.480
I missed it been a year. But yeah, so I

904
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.440
kind of did a a rewatch of like the last

905
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:23.880
season and kind of like brought it up to the

906
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.440
newest episodes and stuff, and so it kind of made

907
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:32.000
for a little bit of a what's the word fun

908
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:36.800
more interesting way of watching it. I guess, kind of

909
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.320
like being watching it, I guess you could say anyway,

910
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:42.000
But yeah, I really liked this episode a lot because

911
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.840
it had a lot of a lot of funny lines.

912
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:55.000
Oh man, so this particular one. Yeah, I agree with

913
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.360
Paul here where he said that the star based coming

914
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.199
up a lot, and they seemed to be giving it

915
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:02.159
a lot of attention.

916
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:03.920
And I don't know why, but.

917
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.039
This is the first series i've heard star based eighty

918
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.760
Is that correct? Have they mentioned any other series where

919
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:11.519
star based eighty was the thing.

920
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:16.480
For Lower Deck.

921
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:17.239
Lower Decks Show.

922
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:21.039
Okay, so yeah, they're probably gonna, like what Paul said,

923
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:21.840
bring it up at some.

924
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:22.440
Point, and.

925
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:27.239
I hope that Lower Deck continued. I was really sad

926
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:29.039
that season five was going to be the end, but

927
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.800
hopefully somebody picks it up and continues. So I mean,

928
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.679
they got that whole Facebook page going where you know,

929
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.519
we keep Lower Decks Live, so hopefully people go on

930
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:39.360
there and get it.

931
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:41.760
But yeah, so.

932
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.960
I hope they don't end up if this is the

933
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:48.280
last season. I hope they don't fast forward to a

934
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:51.159
bunch of the story that they hope to tell. But

935
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.880
to me, I think this episode in general had a

936
00:55:56.039 --> 00:56:05.679
lot of uh different aspect of like the uh the comedy,

937
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:11.280
the story plot, and all the uh other stuff that

938
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:13.159
they have done in the past kind of like bring

939
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:18.719
up into one episode almost to the point where it's like, yes,

940
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:21.760
it seems like they're kind of recycling with the idea

941
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.400
of alternate universities, But this particular one I kind of

942
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:29.599
like because Mariner, even though that's her middle name, uh,

943
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.079
she she just wants to go back to being what

944
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:35.880
she used to be. And I like the argument that

945
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:40.000
kept having between whose universe was prime, was it Hours

946
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:42.960
or theirs? And so from their point of view, there

947
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.000
was the prime, and so I thought that was kind

948
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.920
of interesting. I don't think any other serios actually had

949
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:53.639
anything similar to that. So but yeah, it's uh. The

950
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:54.559
comedy was great.

951
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:55.880
The the.

952
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.719
Uh which the where at the point by point, you know,

953
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.840
from beginning to end, it was pretty smooth. I thought

954
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.599
it was really great. I agree with a lot of

955
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:13.719
the fans here, you know, just bringing in the whole

956
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:17.599
aspect of comedy. I enjoyed comedy a lot, so to me,

957
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.760
I really liked this one. I'm pretty sure I'm missing

958
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:22.599
a bunch of other lines that I wanted to talk about,

959
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.559
but I'm pretty sure you guys are bringing it up,

960
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:26.360
so I won't spoil much of anything. I'll let you

961
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:30.480
guys talk, and I'm gonna give this episode a eight

962
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:31.920
point eight.

963
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:37.320
I think, ooh, a little bit higher than our fans. Interesting. Yeah,

964
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:41.239
very interesting. Well, I want to tell you guys, I

965
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.760
enjoyed it. I thought it was really well done. I

966
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:47.920
don't know what ultimate universe this particular one was, because

967
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:50.760
they weren't evil and they didn't have goates, and that

968
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.719
confused me. Because I like the evil go tea thing.

969
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:59.800
But so this must have been like some other parallel universe,

970
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:03.000
because I wouldn't say that they were evil, they were

971
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:07.280
just different. I did you guys notice that that Billips

972
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:12.119
was a prince in the alternate universe, And remember the

973
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:13.360
significance he was a king.

974
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:14.639
They called him King Phillips.

975
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.679
Well, they said there was a point zero eight percent

976
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:20.199
difference between our universe and theres or something like that,

977
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.280
like it was very it's supposed to be very.

978
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:27.800
Self and the reason that in order for him he

979
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.880
had to lose his virginity in order to become a king.

980
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:34.480
You remember that whole episode with his mother. So obviously

981
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.679
in this other universe he did because he's a king.

982
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:41.599
So I thought for fans that remembered, that may have

983
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:44.719
cast why he's different in this one, that's why. And

984
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:49.159
I thought that was great. I really was laughing my

985
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.840
I literally was laughing my ass off. When when the

986
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:56.039
two Ransoms were arguing with each other and they were

987
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:59.199
calling each other, oh, you sexy bitch, you good look,

988
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.760
and hunk, and they were arguing with each other, calling

989
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:06.599
each other all kinds of names. I thought it was

990
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:11.079
hilarious because that's so Ransom. You know, he would do that,

991
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:14.199
and he did do it. So I really liked that,

992
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:19.239
and I liked how they had the Mirror Universe's versions

993
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:23.559
of each character arguing with each other the way they were,

994
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:27.400
you know, argue with themselves. I thought it was very

995
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.320
well done and very creative. It was a it was

996
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:33.679
a new spin on an old topic. We've seen lots

997
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:36.159
of Mirror Universe stuff. We just got done with a

998
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:41.239
whole Mirror Universe. Prodigy deal and Lower Decks managed to

999
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:44.320
put a fresh spin on an old story. And I

1000
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:50.440
really really enjoyed that. Starbase eighty Well, we'll have to see.

1001
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:53.199
I mean they mentioned it quite a bit. We haven't

1002
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:57.599
seen it yet, but hopefully we will. Overall, though, I

1003
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:01.800
really enjoyed this episode. I laughed, I hurled, I thought

1004
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:03.679
it was great. So I'm right there with the fans.

1005
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:06.320
I'm gonna go with an eight point six on this one.

1006
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.639
For the fans. I think it was enjoyable and I

1007
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:14.280
highly recommend it. Yeah, all right, what do you think, Charles, Well,

1008
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:15.039
you kind of.

1009
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.400
Ticked up on one of my points on one of

1010
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:22.800
my Gadet reviews. On one of my comments said several

1011
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:28.159
character references to previous episodes. Well, when our characters come

1012
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:31.039
and made the choice to go one direction to another,

1013
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:36.440
some of these characters went the other choice. He also

1014
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:40.239
saw Bradford with a beard and a little bit of

1015
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:47.440
the Riker in him. One thing I thought was interesting

1016
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:52.639
was the coloration of the uniforms. They were using much darker,

1017
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:59.400
a different, slightly different shade of color in there. Look

1018
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:09.800
at the two two engineers one last to Kindy and

1019
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:16.239
literally we're almost bored comparison for them. One of the

1020
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:20.199
things I did catch on one of my researches was

1021
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:24.599
the opening credits. Do we notice what got added this

1022
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:25.719
time to that battle?

1023
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:26.719
Yep?

1024
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:28.679
What got added?

1025
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:30.480
What got added?

1026
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:32.639
No? That was last season?

1027
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:33.360
Yeah?

1028
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:38.599
Yeah, Apollo's hand from who mourned Tradinis?

1029
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:39.559
Is there.

1030
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:42.320
Something else?

1031
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:47.280
The Folan web spinning ship from t Os is there

1032
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:51.840
something cloud? And the Viejer cloud.

1033
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:54.639
Is now there.

1034
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.159
I think they're Breen ships in there too, that I'm

1035
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:00.800
not sure that we had.

1036
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:06.360
But that's where those were the three new items added

1037
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:07.239
for this season.

1038
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:10.559
If I see a trible floating I'm gonna puke.

1039
01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:15.400
M too much brain stimulation.

1040
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:17.119
No, I don't think we're gonna get.

1041
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:25.159
Any trible battleships. But it was definitely interesting to see

1042
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:30.920
tind dealing with the two factions of Orion when they're

1043
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.119
saving this ship and I think they're getting this big

1044
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:36.760
battleship and end up finding out that they are ending

1045
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.000
up getting more of a medical ship, which they didn't

1046
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:40.039
expect to exist.

1047
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:43.119
Wasn't that the next episode?

1048
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:46.840
No, that was the first episode.

1049
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:48.079
Okay.

1050
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:50.159
The first episode is when they get the ship and

1051
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:57.760
she gets accused of not being an Orion. Interesting point

1052
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:01.559
of view on the Orions them complaining she's not ding

1053
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:06.239
Ryan doing what she was doing. She tricked them instead

1054
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:07.239
of trying to kill them.

1055
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:13.119
I'm pretty sure that was the other episode they.

1056
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:14.679
Were doing the ship. No, they were doing they were

1057
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:20.480
doing the ship sailing ship in episode two, capturing that

1058
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:21.280
big ship.

1059
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:26.880
Yeah, yeah, okay, and why episode two happened, that's right, Okay,

1060
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:31.119
But definitely I like.

1061
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:36.000
How we had the choices where one crew made one

1062
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:41.320
decision the other crew member made the different choice. Where

1063
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:46.320
Mariner didn't want to be a captain, all of a

1064
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:50.280
sudden she was captain in charge even though she didn't

1065
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:54.039
want to be in charge, and she was very hostile

1066
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:59.360
to her crew compared with friendliness that the other universe

1067
01:03:59.400 --> 01:03:59.760
would do.

1068
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:00.880
We're from.

1069
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:05.880
But I think on this one, I'm going to go

1070
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:08.760
with an eight point five for this episode.

1071
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:13.960
Eight point five from Charles and Eric. That means you

1072
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:15.960
get to bring up the caboose on this one, Buddy.

1073
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:19.119
Ooh, all right, you guys have made some very excellent

1074
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:21.960
points along the way. I just I don't know, I

1075
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:23.719
just have a couple of things to add, I guess.

1076
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:27.000
I mean what I would say is that I yes,

1077
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:30.719
alternate universes at this point have been done to death.

1078
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:33.920
I do like that this one has just kind of

1079
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:36.280
like the subtle differences. And I will say that the

1080
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:41.840
whole tallinn you know, fascinating remarkable thing is probably the

1081
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:43.880
thing that made me to laugh the most at the

1082
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.599
end where she's like remarkable and they're like ah, and

1083
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:48.880
she's like I was messing with you or whatever.

1084
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:51.400
She says, Yeah, that's pretty funny.

1085
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:55.719
But you know, I kind of like I agree with Paul,

1086
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:58.400
like when we talk about these episodes, there's not a

1087
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:01.559
ton of like plot necessarily to talk about. I do

1088
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:04.280
think that Lower Decks probably lives and dies on its

1089
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:07.760
character interactions and on showing like character growth and that

1090
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:10.280
sort of stuff. So I like that Mariner got to

1091
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:13.559
see her captain's self, you know, since that's something that

1092
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:17.039
she's kind of tried to avoid doing all along the way,

1093
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:20.880
and turns out her captain self is maybe, I don't know,

1094
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:22.760
a bit of a fascist or something. I'm not really

1095
01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:25.719
sure what's going on there, but you know, it showed

1096
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.760
her like at least what another version of herself would be,

1097
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:32.280
like all the little subtle differences with rather, you know,

1098
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.559
like David was saying with Brotherford totally upgrading himself, or

1099
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:39.719
Boiler's beard and Boimler was pretty much the same, right.

1100
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:41.639
I think that's what we learned was that there was

1101
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:45.239
just a beard involved, and as we go into that

1102
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:47.440
second episode, we'll see that there are some things that

1103
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:51.559
carry forward from this episode related to the beard. So

1104
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:55.920
I guess the one thing that I appreciate about this

1105
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.159
as a you know, alternate universe episode is that there

1106
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:02.400
seems to be or there is definitely a plot that

1107
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:05.840
is multi episode developing that's going to tie everything together.

1108
01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:09.440
And so this is our serial television world, and Lower

1109
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:12.920
Decks has added this season this kind of like serial

1110
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:16.199
story of what's going on with the weird time fishures.

1111
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:19.599
So you know, I'm kind of a little tired of

1112
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:24.079
time stuff, but I'm willing to go along because the

1113
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:27.960
jokes are the jokes are pretty darn good, you know,

1114
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.599
the references. Charles did an excellent job of bringing us

1115
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:33.719
all the way through there. The only couple that I

1116
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:36.440
thought were kind of fun was I always liked the

1117
01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:40.599
occasional mention of Naomi Wildman right drop it down that

1118
01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:45.719
she's like ten years old. Yeah, And I don't know

1119
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.239
if you guys have like get the Star Trek magazine

1120
01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:50.039
or see the Star Trek magazine at the shop, but

1121
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:53.679
it's you know, the cover of the alternate Boimler, like

1122
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:56.360
that's basically what the Star Trek magazine looks like. So

1123
01:06:56.719 --> 01:06:58.920
there was just a nice kind of like, oh, this

1124
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:03.360
is exactly what I'm aready buying. We get some tie

1125
01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:06.480
ins with like the whole Roger Kirby thing a little

1126
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:09.920
bit because he mentions in what are little Girls made of?

1127
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:13.679
If I remember correctly, talking about records from ancient Orion

1128
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:18.199
ruins that are more like medically advanced than Federation techniques.

1129
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:20.400
And I think that this like great plague thing that

1130
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.639
we learned about in this episode, which was the first

1131
01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:24.679
time I think we've ever heard about the great Plague

1132
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:27.800
on Orion. I think that kind of like has an

1133
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.000
indirect tie to some of the other stuff that we've

1134
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:31.199
seen in previous Star treks.

1135
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:33.000
So so I did like that.

1136
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:39.199
And yeah, I mean I was the Blue The Blue

1137
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.440
Orions were great. Yeah, I think I guess I can't

1138
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:44.119
really think of too many other things that you guys

1139
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:49.360
didn't talk about. You know, the styles like writing crop

1140
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:51.119
thing always kind of freaked me out, and the fact

1141
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:53.119
that they brought that back here for Marin or just

1142
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:56.400
just really cracked me up. Oh oh, I know one

1143
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:59.199
other thing I wanted to bring up, uh just and

1144
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:01.199
this is a bit right, It's not like a major

1145
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:04.559
part of the show, but the bit where where Mariners

1146
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:08.880
tied up and she experiences the the other end of

1147
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:14.480
the sarcastic vulcan salute. Yeah, that was a nice little

1148
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:16.960
like call back to previous seasons.

1149
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:18.640
So I did like that.

1150
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:20.720
So yeah, I like this.

1151
01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:24.520
This show didn't This episode didn't break any barriers for me,

1152
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.399
but I did thoroughly enjoy it, and I thought the

1153
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:30.800
jokes were pretty decent. So I'm going to give this

1154
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:32.760
episode a seven.

1155
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:33.439
Point five.

1156
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:39.920
Seven point five from Eric. So, Charles, where does that

1157
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.880
put the truck sports in relation to the fans?

1158
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:48.399
Well, the fans gave in eight point six and the

1159
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.720
trucks Berts given eight point one.

1160
01:08:52.800 --> 01:09:01.000
Respectful. Still very respectable, very respect Yeah, okay, awesome. If

1161
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:02.960
you want to get us started with shades.

1162
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:06.920
Of Green, all right, man, we'll do so this one

1163
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:10.199
kind of continuing on from the first episode that we

1164
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:13.920
had a little bit of overlap there that we had

1165
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:17.560
in this one, Tendy races to stop a conflict while

1166
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:21.560
Bloomer and Mariner race to stop capitalists, which you know,

1167
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:25.199
kind of the funniest thing there, and because basically it's

1168
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:28.479
it's kind of amusing. We always have these utopian societies, right,

1169
01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:34.039
and you know, you know John Luke Picarten first contact, right,

1170
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.319
the acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force

1171
01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:40.159
in our lives. Right, we're actually sort of saying, well,

1172
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:40.800
how do we get there?

1173
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:41.000
Right?

1174
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:44.880
And it's like they've you know, actually sent out on

1175
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:48.079
their mission to help transition away from the capitalist system,

1176
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.800
which you know, is a pretty fun idea. I would

1177
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:52.880
have loved to see them exploit that more though, to

1178
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:58.000
make some more satiric commentary about you know, frankly our

1179
01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:01.439
lives we live in here now because you know, they

1180
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.439
had them wearing like, you know, T shirts that riffed

1181
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:07.199
on notorious b I g right, you know, no money,

1182
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:10.159
no problems, right, a little bit of that.

1183
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:12.560
But but.

1184
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:16.399
I think it was a wasted opportunity. I think, you know,

1185
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:19.119
they could have done more stuff with that than I

1186
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:22.279
think it would be really really really funny, but you know,

1187
01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:25.800
I'm not writing on the show. Instead, they spent a

1188
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:32.880
lot more time with the old Orion bit right to

1189
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:37.880
Erica and learning that Erica was pregnant and parthy and

1190
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:40.800
bat milk and all this stuff. Right, It's just I

1191
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:45.119
was really glad to see this whole thing that. I mean,

1192
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:47.880
I got a joke out of the a chuckle out

1193
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:51.760
of the tendy offering herbs, you know, the bedroom slippers

1194
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:54.760
that are modeled after the one horned dog from the

1195
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:55.520
enemy within.

1196
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:57.640
I thought, it's.

1197
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:03.520
Actually a great throw off. Is pretty hilarious, I gotta

1198
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:08.960
say for me though, and a highlight not just for

1199
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:14.159
this particular episode, but for this this whole show. I

1200
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:19.039
love Gabrielle Ruiz as to Lynn. I think she is

1201
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:22.960
a phenomenal asset to the show. I feel like the

1202
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:27.680
show has kind of improved with the addition of that

1203
01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:32.800
character because she's such a great deadpan counterpoint for everybody else. Right,

1204
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:36.239
she's just, you know, just superb at it. And they're

1205
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:38.880
starting to explore her more in these next couple of

1206
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:42.960
episodes right where she's getting a chance to show other dimensions.

1207
01:11:43.239 --> 01:11:47.279
I don't think we're doing episode three tonight Exotic Nan

1208
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:49.239
Night Hotel, so we'll talk more a little bit more

1209
01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:53.359
about her next week, but but they're showing some more

1210
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:55.840
of her sides there, right, And my favorite part of

1211
01:11:55.880 --> 01:12:01.560
this episode was the whole interplay with her with Rutherford

1212
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:04.880
and yeah, yeah, and the shuttlecraft repair thing right where

1213
01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:07.079
he gets uh, it's a nice way to sort of

1214
01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:09.800
continue to see what's going on with Rutherford's art because

1215
01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:12.960
he misses tending and he misses her dynamic. And I

1216
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.039
feel your brother, because we really do too. We need

1217
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:17.359
to get her back on the show because this whole

1218
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:22.520
Orion thing is is is been squeezed dry, and she

1219
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:26.479
is great in this, I think the whole thing where

1220
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:30.760
you know, she's you know, uh inadvertently you know, fixes

1221
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:34.000
the shuttle craft and realizes she's kind of sucked the

1222
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:37.319
joy out of you know what he had hoped Brutherford

1223
01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:39.079
and hoped to be able to do when Tendy comes back,

1224
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:42.560
and then she just destroys it and just just rips

1225
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:46.399
it apart, and and she's you know, just completely dead been.

1226
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:51.840
Oh no, whatever shall we do? That's best line of

1227
01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:55.600
this show. I means just delivered that just perfectly. So

1228
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:59.079
I'm a big Ta Lind fan. I think she's just great.

1229
01:12:59.319 --> 01:12:59.439
Uh.

1230
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:04.319
And to me, some of the funniest stuff on this episode,

1231
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:10.239
the crazy Uh, it's funny. I don't know if anyone

1232
01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:15.319
else got this right, but the wacky robots, right, we're yeah,

1233
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.039
those are basically a riff of these robots that they

1234
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:23.000
had on Caprica. I don't know if you guys remember that. Yeah,

1235
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:27.079
but Caprica was the Battlestar Galactica prequel series.

1236
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:29.640
Right my gosh, I totally that. I was like, where

1237
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:30.880
have I seen these things before?

1238
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:35.119
Yeah? And they look really really similar, not spot on exactly,

1239
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:39.520
but very similar to the Caprica household robots that they

1240
01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:41.960
had on there, right, which eventually sort of you know,

1241
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:46.680
would be precursors to to the cylons, So, if you will,

1242
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.600
so I thought that was a pretty funny rift there too.

1243
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:54.520
I love those kind of references. I think they're pretty funny.

1244
01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:58.560
What else, The dogs were great, like I said, the

1245
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:04.159
bedroom slipper dogs. But uh, really, I think we're done

1246
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:09.800
now with the orions please, and we're gonna have Tendy

1247
01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.119
back on the ship in her uniform where she should be,

1248
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.640
without their word, where she should be. And I'm really

1249
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:18.960
glad that's that's done, assuming it is done completely. I

1250
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:20.640
don't need to go back, and I don't need to

1251
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:25.279
find out about Erica's baby. I really don't. I'm done.

1252
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:27.840
Let's let's let's have comedy.

1253
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:33.000
Was just are you done with the It's unclear to

1254
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:35.960
me how you feel about the Erica plot here.

1255
01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:38.520
I would in the in the words of Wharf, I would.

1256
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:44.600
Say, no, I don't want anymore.

1257
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.239
Yeah, it's just right now. I'd be like, you know,

1258
01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:52.880
as much as they can continue to milk poor choice

1259
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.880
of phrase, milk clip Oh what am I saying? What's

1260
01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:59.520
wrong with me? As much as we can get more

1261
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:02.039
of that care actor and worker into the plot more,

1262
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.079
I think that is great, really really really really good.

1263
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:09.800
So I think that's a good call. There again, I

1264
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:14.319
think that you know, capitalism, it's just a sorry, you know.

1265
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.760
I know from a person who religiously buys toys, it's

1266
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:22.880
the most It is the most messed up system ever

1267
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:25.520
and has done so much harm to human beings over

1268
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:29.319
the course of of of decades. And people are are

1269
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:31.920
you married to order or commoners? I'm like, yeah, how

1270
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:34.319
about that, let's try that. That would be great. Anything

1271
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:37.079
other than this show where a bunch of potent dates

1272
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:40.239
and bad suits are in charge, I would be I'd

1273
01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:40.960
be in favor of that.

1274
01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:42.000
But that's just me.

1275
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:45.239
You know, we have a whole franchise to milk for

1276
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:49.960
money here. Why is milking so predominant in my analysis tonight,

1277
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:55.800
I'm not really sure, but I blamed those I think

1278
01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:58.359
the reason has to be with those baths, those baths

1279
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:02.359
that were from Enner Prize, Remember the ones Fox was milking.

1280
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:05.600
Yes, with Pithy and bats.

1281
01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:09.239
That's I think that's maybe, you know, I blame Tendy

1282
01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.640
and her Pirethian fat milk.

1283
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:12.680
I think that's what's going on.

1284
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:17.520
There's nothing else going on, doctor Freud, I promise. But

1285
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:19.960
but yeah, so it was fun. It was it was

1286
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.760
a fun episode. I don't think it was quite as uh,

1287
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:25.680
I probably actually like this one, maybe a little bit

1288
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:27.880
better than the first one, to be frank because because

1289
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:30.319
the tall inte I think, I think she's a great

1290
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:34.800
addition to the show and really entertaining. I just think

1291
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:38.720
her delivery spot and I just like, I think, to

1292
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:42.800
have somebody who's not consciously funny in a comedy, it

1293
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:45.880
just helps make things, you know, work better in terms

1294
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:49.079
of you know, humorous dynamics. So I think she's great,

1295
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:53.000
so more her. I think she saved me. So I

1296
01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:56.439
think I would be willing to uh generously, I would,

1297
01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:59.279
I would be tempted to give it a seven, but

1298
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:02.359
I am. I'm generously giving it an eighth though, because

1299
01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:05.479
I love the fact that even though they didn't really

1300
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:09.560
completely exploit the potential of everything they could have done

1301
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:14.279
about capitalism with this waste an opportunity, the fact that

1302
01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:16.840
they just chose in general to go with the capitalism

1303
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:18.159
thing I think was great and.

1304
01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:24.159
Again well, and that they did it as a quick transition.

1305
01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:27.359
So like I've always had this idea that like capitalism

1306
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:31.880
sort of became unuseful to the earth over time, right,

1307
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:34.359
But it was like a long process as we gain

1308
01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:37.159
more resources and as technologies were invented, blah blah blah blah.

1309
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:40.079
But here it was like, no, this planet just decided

1310
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:41.800
one day that they were going to get rid of money.

1311
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:43.319
What would happen? Yeah?

1312
01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:47.039
Can you see people like, go ahead, take that one.

1313
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:49.800
I'll just replicate another one. Yeah, they're waiting in line

1314
01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:52.159
to go see some show or something and somebody.

1315
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:53.920
Else wait a minute, everything, Why are we waiting in

1316
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:55.000
line the gate? Right?

1317
01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:57.520
Which is great?

1318
01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:57.680
Right?

1319
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:00.600
I always got the impression that the reason that you know,

1320
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:04.359
looking back at like you know, a less original series

1321
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:11.520
more next gens about post and guitar. Right, Basically I

1322
01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:14.159
got the impression that what they were getting at was

1323
01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:17.560
that capitalism was destroying the planet. You know, that that

1324
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:19.880
was where that we had to evolve past it or

1325
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:22.600
there was going to be a planet anymore.

1326
01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:23.079
Right.

1327
01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:26.399
Instead, he's like, instead of capitalism, we chose to work

1328
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:30.319
to better ourselves. Right, that we were raping the environment.

1329
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:33.520
And I completely agree with you, Paul. But the reason

1330
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:37.439
that it worked was that we had vulcan technology to

1331
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.760
do things like feed our people and you know, all

1332
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:42.880
the basic stuff that we fight over these days.

1333
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:45.960
Yeah, because I don't know that I can go down.

1334
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:48.079
I don't know, anybody wants to go down this rabbital

1335
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:50.720
with me because it's a cheap one. But it's just like,

1336
01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:55.039
I don't know that we Frankly, uh, based on what

1337
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:56.800
I've been observing, I don't know that we do have

1338
01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:59.119
the chops to save ourselves. Frankly, I think we might

1339
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:03.239
need divine into ben right. And I'm always a big

1340
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:07.840
fan of the day the earthst itself right where yeah

1341
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:10.439
where basically you know, Michael Ready comes down and he's like,

1342
01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:13.520
you know, your babies, clean up your ship, or will

1343
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:16.159
blow you out of existence. Right, it's just like, stop,

1344
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:19.159
you know, stop acting like a holes. You know, it's

1345
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:22.600
basically his message and or or or we're gonna nuke it,

1346
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:25.279
you know, And I think that might be what's necessary,

1347
01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:29.199
because I just don't think that we it's a problem

1348
01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:36.560
when any animal species technology evolves faster than its conscious

1349
01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:39.600
sense of ethics. And that's where we're at right now,

1350
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:43.640
is we we are so basically you know, digging around

1351
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.279
in the dirt with sticks, you know, but we but

1352
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:49.760
we were like children, you know, and let me let

1353
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:50.399
me get that's raight.

1354
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:52.319
I just want to make sure I understand you. Are

1355
01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:56.000
you trying to say that we're milking the planet.

1356
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:05.279
Play to bat sound, I might just see it, man,

1357
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:07.720
And I think we I think Uncle Jim, we'd exhausted

1358
01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:11.800
the wait for it, milk of human kindness as well.

1359
01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:14.600
And I think that we we we seem to be

1360
01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:16.520
needing some replenishment.

1361
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:20.159
So yeah, I you know, I don't know, but yeah,

1362
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:21.800
it's I would.

1363
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:23.520
I would love to see some evolution. That's why I

1364
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:25.520
keep coming back to Star Trek, right, because no matter

1365
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:29.880
what it's like, life is hard. And when you look

1366
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:32.079
at society and you're not just you know, playing with

1367
01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:34.560
your toys and trying to get laid, you know. I

1368
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:36.800
mean life is hard, right, I mean it really is.

1369
01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:40.399
And you know, the way civilization is, if you really

1370
01:20:40.399 --> 01:20:42.279
look at it is unpleasant for a lot of people,

1371
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:45.319
you know. I mean there's a lot more things happen,

1372
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:47.560
you know, And and Star Trek gives me hope. That's

1373
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:50.199
why I keep coming back all the time, because it says, someday,

1374
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:53.199
you know, we can maybe get beyond you know, giving

1375
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:56.159
a shit about what color somebody's skin is and being

1376
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:59.319
threatened to buy that, and get beyond school shootings and

1377
01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:02.159
all those things, can get beyond our avarice and greed

1378
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:05.680
and get to a better place. So I need that message, man,

1379
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:08.800
I need to be I need to get hope from

1380
01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:12.279
my television. Oh I have I even given a number

1381
01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:19.079
to this episode yet all you've been you guys long

1382
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:22.279
to be talking. Yeah, I've been milking it.

1383
01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:24.359
Sorry, but yeah, you guys get.

1384
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.039
Me talking, you know. And again that's why I love

1385
01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:28.079
being on the show, because it's it's a chance to

1386
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:31.239
you know, to talk about crazy stuff, which is always fun.

1387
01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:34.760
But enough of my yak and that's my grade and

1388
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:40.279
will continue. So yeah, but fun stuff. Uh Vitilin. I'll

1389
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:40.920
see you in ten.

1390
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:47.079
Forwards and your score, your overall score.

1391
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:48.159
So did I not say it?

1392
01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:51.840
I thought he did. I said, yeah, I give it

1393
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:54.039
an eight for Llin and uh and for daring to

1394
01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:56.800
at least talk about capitalism, you know, even though they

1395
01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:59.039
could have gone further. But I's still it's an eight

1396
01:21:59.119 --> 01:22:01.720
for me on this one. I certainly I think I

1397
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.880
found it more fun and livelier than the first episode.

1398
01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:13.239
Well, you know, I I honestly don't remember uh too

1399
01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:19.119
much from this episode. So what does that say? You know?

1400
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:19.520
I don't.

1401
01:22:24.399 --> 01:22:29.119
Yeah, but I've just I've been milking it too long.

1402
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:31.640
I can't remember, so I gotta.

1403
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:37.319
Say this might never go, is never gonna go. I

1404
01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:37.600
love it.

1405
01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:39.520
It's going to hang forever.

1406
01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:41.479
Mythology.

1407
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:46.640
Yeah, it's the it's the teeths of life. I got

1408
01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:52.880
to say that. As far as the capitalism and milking

1409
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:57.680
the planet thing goes, I think that is a general topic.

1410
01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:01.079
As a topic in general, everybody was waiting for the

1411
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:04.640
Bell Riots, which we saw in Deep Space nine happening,

1412
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:07.159
and they came and went, and Star Trek was wrong

1413
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:10.479
because it didn't happen. And all I got to say

1414
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:15.199
is think again, because yeah, it could be happening a

1415
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:18.199
little bit later than Star Trek predicted. But we may

1416
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:21.399
yet see the Bell Riots, and we may yell. We

1417
01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:25.640
may well actually get to that point where people realize

1418
01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:28.279
and make the change. It might be closer than we

1419
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:31.079
all think. It is just some words for thought, just

1420
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:32.039
throwing it out there.

1421
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:35.800
What you mean like life? You meaning like reality and like.

1422
01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:38.560
In reality like right now, like I'm thinking maybe around

1423
01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:43.039
January sixth or so, we'll see what happens. But yeah,

1424
01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:46.359
so Star Trek may be onto something and we may

1425
01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:48.399
be part of it. We'll have to wait and see.

1426
01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:50.760
But as far as ower dex goes, I thought that

1427
01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:54.039
was hilarious. When Boemler and Mariner had their shirts on.

1428
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:57.279
I can't remember when did this say no money, no

1429
01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:01.560
problem or down with cash, sir. I don't remember what

1430
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:04.760
exactly they said, but something like that, they're wearing these

1431
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:07.239
shirts and they're burning piles of money and stuff, and

1432
01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:09.760
I was just like, this is great, and that's all

1433
01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:16.279
I remember about the episode. Wow. Anyways, Okay, so I

1434
01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:18.920
guess I don't know. I'll give it an eight and

1435
01:24:19.079 --> 01:24:20.479
move on. David, what do you think?

1436
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:24.920
Okay, well, I guess we kind of agree to have

1437
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:29.880
a very uh nice mutiny and maybe call it acutiny.

1438
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:35.880
It did like that term quite a bit, so when

1439
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:36.560
she said that.

1440
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:45.640
We wined, I could hear what everybody else, why why

1441
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:50.319
do you guys be nice? But I mean, yeah, so

1442
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:53.680
to me, I really enjoyed the episode. I agree with

1443
01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:55.960
the guy that the episode was a lot better than

1444
01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:57.640
the other one, the first one.

1445
01:24:57.720 --> 01:24:57.960
But the.

1446
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:03.439
O Paul, Oh, yeah, there's a lot of funny six

1447
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:09.159
change that I uh uh, I could not lapping it.

1448
01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:12.800
But I think Paul, you mentioned that the shocks that

1449
01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:16.399
she handed out, it's supposed to be the monkey with

1450
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:18.920
the one horn, which I thought that's.

1451
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:23.000
What there was. Was Dog the dog Dog. It's basically

1452
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.199
it's like, you know, it's I'm pretty sure it's cannon

1453
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:28.199
specific poodles, right, but it's a poodle that's like a

1454
01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:30.640
horn and like antenna on it. This was like, it

1455
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:33.920
was one of the best examples of like early Star

1456
01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:38.039
Trek where it's like, we have no money on the set.

1457
01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:40.359
We have a scan of a can of spray paint

1458
01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:41.479
and like, uh.

1459
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:44.239
Quick, give me your dog.

1460
01:25:44.279 --> 01:25:44.960
Who's got a dog?

1461
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:51.239
And according to the internet it is called an Alpha

1462
01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:53.399
one seven seven canine.

1463
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:58.000
Oh, sure it is, and I would like to tell

1464
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:01.000
you my bridge Also, yeah, put the board called it.

1465
01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:04.960
So oh man, it's a it's but you just buy it,

1466
01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:08.640
right And Dog remember that episode right when Spot goes

1467
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:11.760
to piss it off. Dog's pissed. It's the angry dog actic.

1468
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:14.760
He's on.

1469
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:17.560
He's like, I am the angriest poodle ever because you

1470
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:19.800
humiliated me in this costume.

1471
01:26:19.880 --> 01:26:20.239
Look at me.

1472
01:26:21.399 --> 01:26:22.319
It's not even actic.

1473
01:26:24.439 --> 01:26:30.279
But yeah, so yeah, there's just so much in this episode.

1474
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:34.279
I can't even remember it all, but it really.

1475
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:36.000
Was.

1476
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:38.319
That's my line. You're you're still in my line. Now

1477
01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:44.159
you're milking it. You're milking it, David your milk. Okay,

1478
01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:47.800
just as long as he's not molder milk, moldy milk.

1479
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:49.520
Anyway.

1480
01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:57.640
No, but yeah, I really enjoyed this episode a lot.

1481
01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:00.319
The Cutney thing really threw me off, and fact that

1482
01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:05.079
you know she's pregnant, and I actually kind of want

1483
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:09.640
to see more Orion's because we really haven't explored the

1484
01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:11.039
Ryan culture.

1485
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:11.399
All that much.

1486
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.920
It's for Ts Goes or even T and J. I

1487
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:16.760
don't think T and J had any Ryans in it.

1488
01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:16.920
But.

1489
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:23.720
Part's got lots of Orion's are not cart Discovery sorry and.

1490
01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:29.960
Enterprise, I suppose. But yeah, it's got a nice spent

1491
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:34.159
on the whole Orion thing now or sorry Oreons now

1492
01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:38.039
since you're blue. But I did like the idea that

1493
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:43.119
you know, they kept the Thas version of the animation

1494
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:48.800
style and everything. I actually appreciate that artwork. But yeah,

1495
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:52.399
this whole episode was just really fun to me, and

1496
01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:55.520
I'm probably going to give it a higher score than usual.

1497
01:27:55.680 --> 01:27:58.359
But that whole Cutney thing, I just can't stop talking

1498
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:01.199
about it. It is literally now my new favorite word.

1499
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:09.319
I like wood twists like that. It's just fun too anyway,

1500
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:12.319
So I'm gonna actually give this one at nine point five.

1501
01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:21.039
Whoa, yeah, wow, Okay, holy crap, yeah, holy cow.

1502
01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:28.239
You mean do you think Carl's in order around the

1503
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:29.000
milk for everyone?

1504
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.600
Yea blue milk gotta milk and star Wars.

1505
01:28:37.079 --> 01:28:38.560
Another word twist from milk.

1506
01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:46.760
Feeding off of Paul, who took my line from Bowser Galactica.

1507
01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:52.000
There was one more that I picked up in the

1508
01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:55.920
articles that the garden robot complained, I am programmed to mo,

1509
01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:59.520
not to kill. I cannot predict what my jumble of

1510
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:03.600
command this may cause me to do. This issue conflict.

1511
01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:07.319
This issue conflicting command is what turned how nine thousand

1512
01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:14.680
homicidals in two thousand and one a space odyssey. So

1513
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:17.319
I like how we kind of take these robots and

1514
01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:24.119
reference a couple of classic sci fish.

1515
01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:29.079
I'm really interesting to see them saying, okay, let's go

1516
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:35.199
to an ancient method by flying sailing ships.

1517
01:29:37.359 --> 01:29:40.600
And this is something that we've only seen a couple

1518
01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:46.359
of times. You know, Prodigy, they rig their ship to

1519
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:52.119
strike sailing it. But I remember Cisco and Son going

1520
01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:57.199
and playing with a sailing ship and seeing what it

1521
01:29:57.279 --> 01:30:00.960
could do, and realized that our Ryan back then in

1522
01:30:01.079 --> 01:30:04.319
early years actually used sailing ships to do some of

1523
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:09.720
their traveling. So it's interesting to get these old ships

1524
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:20.840
that remind you of classic sailing ships and you're working

1525
01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:29.199
the rigs and moving the wheel to adjust direction, shooting off,

1526
01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:35.560
shooting off. I can't do the type of weapon, but

1527
01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:41.079
using it to cut through sails, to cut through and

1528
01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:42.920
jump from one ship to another.

1529
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:47.119
Oh, the harpoon carpoons, Like, Yeah, we got a bit

1530
01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:51.920
of the classic pirate in there, which I thought was

1531
01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:54.840
a fun little battle in there between them.

1532
01:30:56.800 --> 01:31:01.159
And yeah team, he's a little too much of the

1533
01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:07.039
not wanting to get into fight, and I think that's

1534
01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:09.800
definitely I think a point where people, I.

1535
01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:12.560
Think get a little tired of their riant story because

1536
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:12.760
of that.

1537
01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:21.760
But I do like the to Lend story in there

1538
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:29.920
and trying to get Rutherford out of his sadness and

1539
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:32.920
trying to get him back to who he was, and

1540
01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:40.359
I think that helped him kind of growing the fact

1541
01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:43.319
that realizing, yes he misses Tilly, but Tindy, but he's

1542
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:47.600
got to do something more or he's not going to

1543
01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:53.319
be much used to the ship. So I think overall,

1544
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:56.119
I think I will give this one eight point five.

1545
01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:03.279
Eight point five. I got a question for you guys.

1546
01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:08.079
The ship that Tendy finds is that is that supposed

1547
01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:12.479
to be the ship from the lower Decks crossover, the Orion,

1548
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:17.079
last medical science ship that we see on Strange New Worlds?

1549
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:22.159
Was that ship that she finds? That's interesting?

1550
01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:27.640
Possibly possibly because in my Easter eggs, if that ship

1551
01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:32.000
was referenced, it possible that is that same ship.

1552
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:35.840
That's what I was that same ship.

1553
01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:39.279
Was maybe that same ship?

1554
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:43.680
All right, Eric, well you get the caboose again.

1555
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:51.119
Okay, Well, I overall pretty much agree with Paul. The

1556
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:54.720
missed opportunity for me was the capitalism thing, and I

1557
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:58.359
feel like maybe they should do an episode or maybe

1558
01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:01.039
even a two parter about that because I think there's

1559
01:33:01.079 --> 01:33:05.000
some like really like cool content in there that nobody's

1560
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:09.359
mind completely that deserves to see the light of day.

1561
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:14.079
So yeah, totally agree with that. Other than what you

1562
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:16.159
guys have already said, I mean a couple of other

1563
01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:19.960
just like you know, Easter Eggy type things that I noticed,

1564
01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:22.119
which are don't really have anything to do with the

1565
01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:27.159
plot or anything. I like how Boiler developed his set

1566
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:34.520
of bointers, which is more where to me, you know,

1567
01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:38.159
just like they're like Leftler's laws from the game right.

1568
01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:42.600
It's it kind of has like a a nice alliteration

1569
01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:47.199
to it. There's the line that he says that's just

1570
01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:50.600
like the card line, the it's possible to commit no

1571
01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:56.640
mistakes and still lose. But he says something like it's

1572
01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:59.720
like possible to do anything right and still get your

1573
01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:05.039
team kidnapped by like the corporations or something. So I don't,

1574
01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:08.439
you know, just for somebody who who think like I

1575
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:13.439
literally think about that Picard line on a regular basis

1576
01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:15.560
as part of my life, I'd be surprised if it

1577
01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:18.159
was if it was less frequent than once a week.

1578
01:34:18.199 --> 01:34:21.119
I think of that Picard line about losing or about

1579
01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:25.199
doing everything right but still losing, because that is life like, right.

1580
01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:33.840
There was also a very brief sighting of Gugie after Tillnn.

1581
01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:34.319
Destroys the shuttle.

1582
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:35.600
I don't know if you guys noticed or not, but

1583
01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:39.479
Gugie shows up just a little bit behind there. So,

1584
01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:42.359
you know, a couple other Easter Eggy type things there.

1585
01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:46.600
The comedy was fine. I'm with Paul, I'm totally done

1586
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.079
with the O Ryan thing. I think we're done now.

1587
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:54.920
I think we're done. So I you know, I didn't

1588
01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:57.119
like this one better than the other one. I actually

1589
01:34:57.279 --> 01:34:59.039
liked it slightly less, so I gave the other one

1590
01:34:59.079 --> 01:35:01.199
a seven point five. So I will give this one

1591
01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:05.640
a seven best, mostly because the.

1592
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:10.560
One thing I thought was that I chuckled, and I

1593
01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:13.600
thought of you right away. Eric Is when they explained

1594
01:35:13.920 --> 01:35:18.600
why we have so many evil admirals. Oh yeah, and

1595
01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:22.760
that's because they sent him out. They sent him out

1596
01:35:22.880 --> 01:35:28.319
to milk space cows. Yeah, And I was like, poor guy.

1597
01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:31.119
And so now we know why there's so many evil

1598
01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:33.920
admirals because they're sick of milking space cows.

1599
01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:36.960
I just get bad, you know, they get bad?

1600
01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:46.960
Is uh? I next episode wasn't I don't know. I

1601
01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:48.800
watched four episodes, so I can't remember.

1602
01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:53.680
I think the evil admiral went in the third episode.

1603
01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:56.159
Okay, yeah, it's.

1604
01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:02.319
Great overall.

1605
01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:05.960
Yeh, what do we come up with, Charles overall fans

1606
01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:09.079
versus trek Spurts right here and right now?

1607
01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:13.640
Well, rather interesting, but the fans gave it a seven

1608
01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:17.520
point five and the host gave it night point two.

1609
01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:21.119
Yeah, but David was a nine point I mean that

1610
01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:24.600
was just that through the average comedy comedy.

1611
01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:32.439
Come my, guys, that's right, that's right. He's milking it.

1612
01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:34.760
He's milking it, all right, guys. Well you know what

1613
01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:54.000
time it is. Now, it's time for birthday. That was

1614
01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:58.439
not a clon song. Okay, guys. We always start off

1615
01:36:58.560 --> 01:37:01.399
our Star Trek birthdays. I remembering those members of our

1616
01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:04.880
Star Trek family who, sadly enough, are no longer with us,

1617
01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:06.840
and for that returned.

1618
01:37:06.479 --> 01:37:08.039
To Eric Jim.

1619
01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:10.960
This week, we're gonna honor six members of our Star

1620
01:37:11.039 --> 01:37:14.560
Trek community who have gone before us. The very first

1621
01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:20.239
is actor Michael Zazlow. Michael Joel Zaslow was the actor

1622
01:37:20.279 --> 01:37:23.720
who appeared as Darnell in the TOS first season episode

1623
01:37:23.760 --> 01:37:27.199
The Man Trap, after which he also played Jordan in

1624
01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:31.920
the second season episode I Mud. Darnell was actually the

1625
01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:35.039
first death ever seen on Star Trek. It was for

1626
01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:40.520
his death that Leonard McCoy first uttered the phrase he's dead, Jim,

1627
01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:45.319
I love it. In case you don't know this guy,

1628
01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:48.159
Michael Joe Zaslow is actually the godfather of Christian Slader,

1629
01:37:48.199 --> 01:37:50.840
of course, who famously showed up in Star Trek six,

1630
01:37:51.359 --> 01:37:55.399
but he's probably best known Zaslow for playing the villainous

1631
01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:59.479
Roger Forpe on the CBS soap opera Guiding Light for

1632
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:03.520
nearly two twenty years, from nineteen seventy one to nineteen

1633
01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:06.199
eighty and then again from eighty nine through ninety seven.

1634
01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:10.079
He received four Daytime Emmy nominations for his role during

1635
01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:13.479
the nineties, winning an award with his third domination in

1636
01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:17.560
nineteen ninety four. Unfortunately, we'll ostend back in nineteen ninety

1637
01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:21.399
eight from Luke Grigg's disease, so Michael Joe Zaslow would

1638
01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:24.560
have had a birthday November one. Happy Birthday to him.

1639
01:38:25.079 --> 01:38:29.520
Happy birthday as well to actor Ray Walston, best known

1640
01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:33.760
for his role as Uncle Martin the Martian in the

1641
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:38.920
nineteen sixty television series My Favorite Martian, also known for

1642
01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:43.319
his Tony Award winning performance in the Broadway production of

1643
01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:47.279
Damn Yankees. I think I forgot to mention what he

1644
01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:51.159
did in Star Trek. He actually played Boothby in three

1645
01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:54.399
Star Trek episodes, and you know the guy I'm talking about.

1646
01:38:54.439 --> 01:38:56.560
His very first one was in the Next Generation fifth

1647
01:38:56.560 --> 01:39:00.800
season episode First Duty. Lynn later appeared in the Voyager

1648
01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.359
fifth season episode The Fight And as kind of a

1649
01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:08.399
fake version of booth It'd be a Species A four

1650
01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:12.760
seven two to one in the Voyager episode in the Flesh.

1651
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:18.119
Very famous, very famous actor in his own right. He's

1652
01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:23.319
a two time Emmy Award winning actor as Judge Henry

1653
01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:28.880
Bone on the series picket Fences. He was in Fast

1654
01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:32.439
Times at Ridgemont High as mister Hand. You know, there's

1655
01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:34.600
a ton of stuff that this guy has done along

1656
01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:38.439
the way. I actually encourage everyone to go check out

1657
01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:43.359
his his IMDb. You know, we lost Michael joels Aslow

1658
01:39:43.399 --> 01:39:46.760
to lou Gary's disease. We lost Ray Walston to lupus

1659
01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:50.319
when he was but at least he did he was

1660
01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:52.479
around to eighty six years old, so that's pretty good.

1661
01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:54.640
But we did lose him back in two thousand and one.

1662
01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:59.840
So happy birthday to Ray Walston born in nineteen fourteen.

1663
01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:04.359
Happy birthday to him. Happy birthday as well to Warren Stevens.

1664
01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:08.479
The actor who played Rohan in the original series second

1665
01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:12.439
season episode by any Other Name, was in the Naval

1666
01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:16.479
Academy back in nineteen thirty seven and then eventually was

1667
01:40:16.520 --> 01:40:20.159
a midshipman in the Navy. Following this service, he began

1668
01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:23.760
concentrating on his acting career, and his big break came

1669
01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:30.479
in Broadways Detective Story in which he led, in which

1670
01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:34.119
he actually got, then offers for movie stuff after that,

1671
01:40:34.359 --> 01:40:38.600
so kind of did the stage two movies, saying overall

1672
01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:42.439
made more than one hundred and fifty television guest appearances

1673
01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:44.960
along the way, So Warren Stevens.

1674
01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:46.039
Including.

1675
01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:49.600
Including so many Paul educate us.

1676
01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:54.239
Warren Stevens is in Forbidden Planet, brother.

1677
01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:55.880
Perfect.

1678
01:40:56.319 --> 01:40:58.079
I mean the bed Planet is like classic.

1679
01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:00.680
I mean as there would be you know, Star Trek

1680
01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:02.720
if it were not for Forbidden Planet. I mean it

1681
01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:05.520
was like a medical officer in that, right, Yeah. Yeah,

1682
01:41:05.640 --> 01:41:07.159
he's just so cool in that, man.

1683
01:41:07.039 --> 01:41:08.079
So I had to throw that in.

1684
01:41:08.279 --> 01:41:11.119
Man, big, totally big Bourn Stephens. Man, he's so cool.

1685
01:41:11.600 --> 01:41:14.520
Nineteen fifty six movie. If you haven't seen Forbidden Planet, you.

1686
01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:15.199
Should check it out.

1687
01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:20.199
And Classic there so close friends of Gregor, Gregory Pack

1688
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:21.000
and Kenneth Toby.

1689
01:41:21.119 --> 01:41:21.640
Along the Way.

1690
01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:26.960
Warren Stevens, we lost him at age ninety two back

1691
01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:28.039
in twenty twelve.

1692
01:41:28.079 --> 01:41:28.960
Happy birthday to him.

1693
01:41:29.319 --> 01:41:31.880
Happy birthday as well to Ian Woolfe. The actor who

1694
01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:35.960
played Septimus in the TOS second season episode bre bredon

1695
01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:40.800
Circuses also played mister A Hawes in the third season

1696
01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:45.439
episode All Our Yesterday's born in Canton, Illinois. He's one

1697
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:47.399
of those guys who was born in the nineteenth century,

1698
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:50.880
born in eighteen ninety six. There's only a handful of them.

1699
01:41:51.359 --> 01:41:55.520
Also lived to be ninety five years old, so there's

1700
01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:57.720
just something about these but just star Trek actors that

1701
01:41:57.840 --> 01:41:58.880
live to be one hundred years old.

1702
01:41:58.920 --> 01:41:59.239
I love it.

1703
01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:05.279
He at age twenty two, joined the US Army as

1704
01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:07.800
one did back in the day and fought in World

1705
01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:12.880
War One. Has nearly two hundred film and made for

1706
01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:16.520
TV credits to his name, as well as eighty television

1707
01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:21.279
guest appearances over the course of fifty six years. And

1708
01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:22.920
I guess if you want to go sci fi with

1709
01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:27.359
this one. He had a supporting role in the cult

1710
01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:32.239
classic THHX one one three eight Let's Sit Hey. So yeah,

1711
01:42:32.760 --> 01:42:36.000
Happy birthday to Ian Wolfe. We miss you and you've

1712
01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:39.119
been gone quite a while now but still just really

1713
01:42:39.399 --> 01:42:41.479
a special actor out there, So happy birthday to you.

1714
01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:46.560
Happy birthday to jan Shootan, the actress who played Lieutenant

1715
01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:50.000
Mirror Romaine in the TuS third season episode The Lights

1716
01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:54.600
of Zatar. Of course, you'll remember her as being the

1717
01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:57.840
actress or the character rather who was involved with Montgomery

1718
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:01.840
Scott in that episode. She the actress, was also the

1719
01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:06.800
winner of a TV program called Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts.

1720
01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:10.079
I haven't seen that one. She's got a couple of

1721
01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:12.159
emotion picture of credits not too many. One was in

1722
01:43:12.239 --> 01:43:15.479
Russ Meyers The Seven Minutes in nineteen seventy one. Was

1723
01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:19.119
also in Dracula's Dog from nineteen seventy eight.

1724
01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:22.880
There.

1725
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:24.840
I don't know, man, but I kind.

1726
01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:25.279
Of want to see it.

1727
01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:29.800
I mean, Dragula's Dog sounds amazing. So jan Shutan lost

1728
01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:31.600
back in twenty twenty one at the age of eighty

1729
01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:33.840
eight years old. Happy Birthday to her. And last but

1730
01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:37.600
not least, on our remembrance list, we have actor Carl Steven.

1731
01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:41.640
Carl Stephen lost way too early, man. He was only

1732
01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:44.119
thirty six years old when we lost him. He's the

1733
01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:47.760
actor who played the nine year old Spock in Star

1734
01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:51.680
Trek three. That was his very first feature film appearance

1735
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:55.479
at the time, and then he actually played a younger

1736
01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:59.199
version of a Leonard Nimoy character in the nineteen ninety

1737
01:43:59.279 --> 01:44:04.479
one made for two television movie Never Forget. Was briefly

1738
01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:08.520
a performer on a couple of other television shows, but

1739
01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:12.640
unfortunately we lost him to some drug issues and never

1740
01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:15.479
got to sort of see what his full potential might

1741
01:44:15.560 --> 01:44:19.319
have been. So Happy birthday to Carl Stephen, lost back

1742
01:44:19.399 --> 01:44:21.920
in twenty eleven at the age of thirty six years old.

1743
01:44:22.439 --> 01:44:24.600
Now you guys does it for our remembrances this week,

1744
01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:27.319
So I'm going to pass that flaming birthday candle over

1745
01:44:27.479 --> 01:44:28.159
to Charles.

1746
01:44:29.399 --> 01:44:29.720
Thank you.

1747
01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:33.520
Eric got a quantity on my list, so let's go quick.

1748
01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:38.600
Let's have Happy birthday to Robert Foxworth, actor played Admiral

1749
01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:41.640
Layton in Star Trek D Space nine S fours in

1750
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:48.000
an episode home Front and Paradise Lost and the Loss

1751
01:44:48.319 --> 01:44:52.000
in Star Trek Enterprises Horse Is an episode The Ford's Awakening,

1752
01:44:52.760 --> 01:45:00.800
and Kirsher. Happy Birthday to Karen Henzel, actress played Admiral

1753
01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:06.560
Beckett and TNG's this season episode Unification one and Della

1754
01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:10.960
and Starchek D Space nine second season episode Cardassians and

1755
01:45:11.079 --> 01:45:19.079
Unification One. Happy Birthday to Morgan Peters, actress who played

1756
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:23.359
Jay Hawkings and Star Trek Pericard's second season episode find

1757
01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:28.520
Me to the Moon and two of one. Heavy Birthday

1758
01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:32.159
to Sarah Both actress who played Londa in Star Trek

1759
01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:39.119
Discoveries four season episode The Examples. Happy Birthday Harris Helen,

1760
01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:43.720
Emmy Award winning actress who played Adma Maritza in the

1761
01:45:44.039 --> 01:45:49.159
d Space nine first season episode Duet. Happy Birthday to

1762
01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:54.399
Carolyn Seymour, actress who appeared in five Star Star Trek episodes,

1763
01:45:55.000 --> 01:46:01.159
four Characters across two spinoff series Taras and t Is Contagion,

1764
01:46:03.039 --> 01:46:10.119
Maresta Yale in TG's First Contact, Taurete in TG's Face

1765
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:16.239
the Enemy, and Miss Templeton and Voyagers, Catholics and Persistence

1766
01:46:16.279 --> 01:46:17.479
of Visions.

1767
01:46:18.880 --> 01:46:21.960
I just want to say, at just real quick, Terref

1768
01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:25.279
is an awesome, awesome romulant and if you haven't seen

1769
01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:27.600
that episode in a while, you should double check it

1770
01:46:27.640 --> 01:46:29.520
out because her character is so good.

1771
01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:34.039
Yes, that was a very good episode. Heavy Birthday to

1772
01:46:34.159 --> 01:46:38.800
Dark and Matthews, a highly horrific actor played Admiral Patterson

1773
01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:44.399
and Star Trek Voyagers. This is an episode Relativity and

1774
01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:48.000
one of the favorites on my list. A very happy

1775
01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:52.479
birthday to a very unique alien that we really got

1776
01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:58.600
nine and his family and all the lives surrounding his bar.

1777
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:00.520
Our.

1778
01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:06.479
Happy Birthday to Armand Shemmerman, actress known as known for Quark.

1779
01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:14.520
Happy birthday to all those, man, I still more to go.

1780
01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:15.800
Who's on your list?

1781
01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:16.119
Paul?

1782
01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:19.800
All right, we'll keep chucking away here man. Thanks Charles.

1783
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:23.800
Happy birthday goes out to Helene ude Is, the actress

1784
01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:26.920
who played Pelp in Deep Space nine second season episode

1785
01:47:27.079 --> 01:47:31.720
Rules of Acquisition, another great franky episode. Happy Birthday out

1786
01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:35.880
to MICHAELA. Deets, actress, voice actress and singer who voiced

1787
01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:40.720
Magelle in the second season of Star Trek. Prodigy also

1788
01:47:40.920 --> 01:47:44.000
voiced Graham in the episode Ascension Part One. We all

1789
01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:47.239
on this show dig Migell. Migell is awesome.

1790
01:47:47.960 --> 01:47:50.159
Let's hope we get to see more of that character.

1791
01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:53.640
Maybe there'll be another season. We never know, but we

1792
01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:58.000
have to send good thoughts out to Aaron Walke and

1793
01:47:58.079 --> 01:48:01.800
all of our friends. They're on product, great show, great work,

1794
01:48:01.960 --> 01:48:05.600
and so super cool to have Mikhayla Diese joined that franchise.

1795
01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:08.880
Happy Birthday go asked the Warren Shearer, actor and son

1796
01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:12.039
man who played at Cor in Discovery fourth season episode

1797
01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:16.640
All In, and a Gorn adult who scary in the

1798
01:48:16.680 --> 01:48:20.239
Strange New World second seas an episode Hegemony, So we'll

1799
01:48:20.279 --> 01:48:24.560
see more Gorn soon. I suspect. Happy birthday was that?

1800
01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:26.399
Are they milking it? Sorry?

1801
01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:30.399
Lizards, man, they ain't got milk. Come on.

1802
01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:35.119
Cold if you do, it's cold blooded animals. Man, it

1803
01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:38.720
can be very cold milk. So you know, cold milk,

1804
01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:40.960
you can maybe make a you can make a white

1805
01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:42.479
Russian out of it, David, how about that.

1806
01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:47.399
Corn milk, white Russian corn milk Russian.

1807
01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:52.039
Computer milk, white Russian.

1808
01:48:52.520 --> 01:48:54.960
Next, and that's what I'm going to order.

1809
01:48:56.319 --> 01:48:56.560
You have.

1810
01:48:58.119 --> 01:48:59.760
Corn milk, white Russian cold?

1811
01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:01.840
What was an earrow grade teacher?

1812
01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:09.319
Actually, Okay, I'm loving this night. This is just what

1813
01:49:09.439 --> 01:49:14.000
I needed. Happy birthday to Stephanie is Jakowski, actress who

1814
01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:16.960
played Lieutenant Savine in the third season episode of Star

1815
01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:20.439
Trek Icard. I'm a big fan of this next person,

1816
01:49:21.319 --> 01:49:26.880
Ursulene Bryant. There are some bright spots in the first

1817
01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:29.319
season of Next Gen. Sometimes you have to squint to

1818
01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:31.800
see them, but Ursuline Bryant was certainly one of them.

1819
01:49:32.159 --> 01:49:35.359
She was the actress who played Captain ty Trila Scott

1820
01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:39.399
in that awesome first season episode Conspiracy. She was a

1821
01:49:39.520 --> 01:49:42.199
badass and I think an underused character. I would have

1822
01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:46.560
loved to seen more of Captain Trila Scott because she

1823
01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:49.880
seemed like Osea. Yeah, here's a tough bad ass commanding

1824
01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:52.640
a starship and she was just great, really made a

1825
01:49:52.720 --> 01:49:55.279
lot of herself in that one episode. So very very

1826
01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:59.520
cool Next Gen again. Happy birthday to Eric Menyuk, who

1827
01:49:59.600 --> 01:50:04.920
played a traveler in Next Gen's first, fourth and second

1828
01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:08.079
season episodes of Course introducing where no one has gone before,

1829
01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:12.319
Remember Me and Journey's End, where we got to learn

1830
01:50:12.399 --> 01:50:15.159
all about what would happen with our good friend Wesley Crusher,

1831
01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:18.920
and he reprised the role in Prodigies episode The Devour

1832
01:50:19.119 --> 01:50:22.920
of All Things Part One. How about that for serendipity there, huh.

1833
01:50:24.159 --> 01:50:28.279
A very gracious, most admirable happy birthday goes out to

1834
01:50:28.359 --> 01:50:33.520
the great Famka Johansen Okay, amazing Dutch actress who played

1835
01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:37.920
Kamala in the Next Generation fifth season episode The Perfect

1836
01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:44.439
Mate and who James Bond fans will remember from playing

1837
01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:47.800
Auxenia on a Top on that killer first on the

1838
01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:51.680
first frosen on a Top. Yeah, just like what a name.

1839
01:50:51.800 --> 01:50:53.920
It's not quite as good as pussy Galore, but it's

1840
01:50:53.960 --> 01:50:55.800
almost sure.

1841
01:50:56.640 --> 01:51:00.840
But the very first Bond girl in the appierce Osman era,

1842
01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:05.119
and she was really really cool in that as well,

1843
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:06.520
so a neat edition.

1844
01:51:06.920 --> 01:51:07.680
I like that movie.

1845
01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:12.319
I know some people like dude, dude, uh, what's not

1846
01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:16.039
to like? I mean is such it's really entertaining. I

1847
01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:19.279
saw in The Creator a couple of times. But one

1848
01:51:19.279 --> 01:51:20.960
of the best things about it, dude, I'm sorry, I'm

1849
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:22.199
not gonna go off, and I know we're going like

1850
01:51:22.279 --> 01:51:26.319
five minutes or whatever, but Sean Bean, Okay, Sean Bean

1851
01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:30.399
is the bad guy you know, spoiler alert sorry in

1852
01:51:30.640 --> 01:51:36.039
uh in Golden He's just great. That's one of the

1853
01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:37.840
reasons that movie is so good is you got really

1854
01:51:37.880 --> 01:51:40.920
good cast and from Johnson. Johnston is a great actress.

1855
01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:43.600
She was in the X Men franchise as Jean Gray.

1856
01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:46.960
I mean, she's just a really great, uh, you know,

1857
01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:52.640
cool presence by all accounts, dynamite human being but h

1858
01:51:52.800 --> 01:51:55.520
but really unforgettable. And that's a really cool episode. I

1859
01:51:55.600 --> 01:52:00.760
mean that's a was a tough uh role for Picard

1860
01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:03.119
in that particular episode. So if you haven't watched Perfect

1861
01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:05.560
Mate in a while, go check it out and revel

1862
01:52:05.960 --> 01:52:08.720
in Fomka's work. I think she's great. Happy Birthday. Also,

1863
01:52:08.760 --> 01:52:12.560
deviat Al Peterson, actor who played Daton in Next Generation's

1864
01:52:12.600 --> 01:52:17.479
fifth season episode Unification two, and also played Rugal in

1865
01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:21.800
Deep Space nine second season episode Cardassians Wrapping things up

1866
01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:26.199
for Me Big Birthday Time. In fact, her birthday was

1867
01:52:26.279 --> 01:52:30.960
just yesterday. The lovely and talented Rebecca Romain actress and

1868
01:52:31.199 --> 01:52:35.800
a ex model who plays Una Chin Riley on Discovery

1869
01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:40.039
season second season episodes and Obol for Sharon Such Sweet Sorrow,

1870
01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:43.479
Such Sweet Sorrow bar two, and reprised her role in

1871
01:52:43.640 --> 01:52:46.439
Star Trek Short Treks episodes Q and A ass Not

1872
01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:50.000
and Strange New world I think we need to update

1873
01:52:50.159 --> 01:52:54.840
her CV significantly because she's done a lot since then.

1874
01:52:55.439 --> 01:52:58.399
She is Una Chin Riley poster child for a Star

1875
01:52:58.479 --> 01:53:07.159
Trek recruitment lockers everywhere. Buddy exactly had as give me

1876
01:53:07.199 --> 01:53:10.520
an aspirin, I mean, my god, which is awesome.

1877
01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:14.039
Well, and we learned like at one point that like

1878
01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:17.520
Luna McCormick, like one of our favorite authors, has that

1879
01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:19.039
wonderful connection of name.

1880
01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:22.279
It's so whole right, Yeah, very cool, And I know

1881
01:53:22.359 --> 01:53:23.640
we're going to be seeing a lot more of her

1882
01:53:23.720 --> 01:53:26.319
in the next season of Strange New Worlds. Would be

1883
01:53:26.479 --> 01:53:29.039
my hope. I think it would be crazy if we didn't.

1884
01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:32.680
But she's a super talented and uh and I think uh,

1885
01:53:32.920 --> 01:53:35.800
and also quite funny as well, and has a really

1886
01:53:35.840 --> 01:53:38.119
good gift for comedy. So keep her on the show,

1887
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:41.399
keep get us. When when are we getting a premiere

1888
01:53:41.479 --> 01:53:43.720
date for a Strange New Worlds Gang? I mean when?

1889
01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:47.439
But enough of my questions, enough of my questions. Time

1890
01:53:47.520 --> 01:53:50.319
is money because we live in a capitalist society.

1891
01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:51.600
I gotta go.

1892
01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:56.159
I gotta go, milk a goren.

1893
01:53:56.239 --> 01:53:57.319
So I'm going to pass this over.

1894
01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:02.960
Uncle Jim in it. Uncle Jim, save me. You're my

1895
01:54:03.079 --> 01:54:03.560
only home.

1896
01:54:04.760 --> 01:54:08.880
Okay, well, I only have a skew here. I want

1897
01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:10.800
to say happy birthday to Billy Simpson.

1898
01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:11.479
Uh.

1899
01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:15.079
He played well, he didn't play. He voiced Young Spock

1900
01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:19.399
and Star Trek animated series episode Yesteryear. If you have

1901
01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:22.560
not seen that episode, if you're holding out because you

1902
01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:27.359
think the animation sucks, you are doing yourself a great injustice.

1903
01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:34.399
You have to watch Yesteryear. And actually it's funny because Eric,

1904
01:54:34.520 --> 01:54:37.319
you had a young Spock in your membrances, didn't you.

1905
01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:40.560
I sure did, Yeah, one of So we've got two

1906
01:54:41.159 --> 01:54:46.199
of our eleven spots in tonight's yeah yeah, wow, wow.

1907
01:54:46.079 --> 01:54:49.600
It's interesting. Okay, And now We're going to move on

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01:54:49.680 --> 01:54:53.840
to the Klingons. I always do the Klingons. We This

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one just broke my heart because I think I think

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she's one of the great Klingons, even though she has

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a lot less screen time than people seem to think

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that she did. But uh, we want to say to

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Gwyneth Walsh, she's the actress who played before now but

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Toore is the cute one if you remember.

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But she's also kind of like doesn't really have anything

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going on upstairs.

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A cute one.

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Wow, you're so quick to judge. Man, I'm just saying

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that is the likes going on upstairs, but she does

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have something going on on other stories of the building.

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Maybe is absolutely cute.

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Here in three three episodes of TNG and one episode

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of Deep Space nine and Fit the Dust and Star

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Trek Generations. She also, which I did not know, played

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Chief Examiner Nerma and starts with Voyagers fourth season episode

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Random Thoughts. Now, it does seem like larsa be tour

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or around a lot more than four episodes, doesn't it.

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Yeah, I think it's because they were in a movie.

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I think that kind of like automatically ups their you know,

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amount that we think we've seen them, and.

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They had such a presence in the whole Klingon Civil

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War arc right where they were backing backing Duras and

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all that nonsense. I mean, they were great. There's one

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of those. I mean, I think that it's a testament

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to them, right. I mean they're on on screen very little,

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but you're they're so memorable, right because they really make

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they make a lot of the They're like they're Shakespearean,

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they make so much out of there. They're like out

1939
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of King lear right, They're totally out of king Lair,

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and they just are so memorable and you just can't

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forget them so way to you know, they're just wonderful.

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It was such fun character they are.

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They to you a cleanon challenge, just drinking more milk.

1944
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Well, it's gotta be targ milk. You gotta you gotta

1945
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get that man. Yeah, those horny dogs, all right, And

1946
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I saved. I saved the best one for last for me.

1947
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And of course we want to say happy birthday to

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the awesome, the incredible, the top of the line, my

1949
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favorite Chancellor Mary Chiefo herself Laurel, you will call her mother.

1950
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I thought that she was great on Discovery you know.

1951
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And I thought her character of Laurel the Chancellor was

1952
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awesome and I really really hope that we see more

1953
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of her on section thirty one. I don't know if

1954
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we will or not, because I'm not sure where that

1955
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is taking place. But Mary Chiefo really brought Larel to

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life and made her one of the more memorable characters

1957
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think for me anyways, quing on characters on Discovery. So yeah,

1958
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and Jim'll say to Mary Chiefo, like, don't forget that

1959
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she also did like in that music or in that makeup.

1960
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Excuse me. She performed a song called Steel and Flame

1961
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that's like a metal song but as a cling on

1962
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So there's some good like cling on metal out there

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that If you guys haven't seen the music video where

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she performs that song, you should check it out. You

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can google Steal and Flame on YouTube.

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Yes, I posted that video on our Facebook page in

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the past. I think Mary Chiefo was great, and I

1968
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love the character of Laurel because she she she brought

1969
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the character to life, she gave it a personality, and

1970
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she was written really really well and I love her.

1971
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I just I love the character. She's one of my

1972
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favorite chancellors.

1973
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Let me give you an idea what kind of person

1974
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Mary Chiefo is. She was going on to She was

1975
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on a panel just before IDW was doing their panel.

1976
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Idie W was giving away a couple of different posters

1977
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to people that ask questions. One of the posters was

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Captain Keilly and the other one was Mary Chiefo and Laurel.

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And Laurel saw these posters like these posters can't go

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out yet, give no Sidney, I want them. I don't

1981
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want them signed before they can go out to the fans.

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Three posters. She signed every one of them before they

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could give them out because she won the autograph to

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the fans.

1985
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Yeah. I saw her on an episode of Let's Make

1986
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a Deal and she came out and and did her

1987
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whole spiel and klingon which I thought was gonna marry Chiefo.

1988
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And guys, we don't have time to get to our

1989
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stories any news this week, unfortunately. But we just milked

1990
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it too much. What can I tell you. We had

1991
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a good time though. We had some fun, and we

1992
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also covered two episodes as well. So we're gonna do

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the same thing next week. We're gonna We're gonna be

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doing the Exotic Erotic Nanits or what was the name?

1995
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What was that one? Yes, we're gonna do that and

1996
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it's on there's an episode that's on right now. We'll

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do both of those next week and that will put

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us back on track. We're usually a week behind. And

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we'll do two this week, two next week, and that'll

2000
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put us back on our regular schedule, and then we

2001
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we'll probably have time to squeeze in some more news

2002
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on the next episode. So I apologize for that. But

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we had fun. We had we had a great time,

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and I want to say thank you, thank you so

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much to Paul for hanging out and milking it with

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us tonight. Thank you, Paul. I had.

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This is just what I needed this week, this show,

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and I had a blast. It was really super fun.

2009
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And if you're having a hard time coping with reality friends,

2010
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try not to cry over spilled milk. Okay, exactly.

2011
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Milk no, especially if you're lactose intolerant that too. And

2012
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thank you so much to David for hanging out with

2013
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us tonight. Thank you, David.

2014
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Yeah, it's been fun. I've been really entertaining. And Ed

2015
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Weshley a question would say, drink more milk. Well, maybe

2016
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you should drink more milk. And thank you so much

2017
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to Charles for hanging out and Treuck talking with us

2018
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as well. Thank you, Charles.

2019
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Thank you reminds me sometime I need to get to

2020
02:01:54.199 --> 02:01:55.840
Disneyland and try some blue milk.

2021
02:01:56.920 --> 02:02:04.199
Blue milk. Yes, like welcome that is giant fish they

2022
02:02:04.319 --> 02:02:08.119
they are and Star Wars there. Yeah, Aunt brew and

2023
02:02:08.159 --> 02:02:12.640
her blue fish milk, and thank you so much. It

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02:02:12.720 --> 02:02:15.039
could be. And thank you so much to Eric for

2025
02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:16.600
hanging out and Trek talking with us as well.

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02:02:16.680 --> 02:02:19.800
Thank you so much, Eric, you bet guys, thank you

2027
02:02:20.079 --> 02:02:22.720
for just being here every single Thursday night as a

2028
02:02:22.840 --> 02:02:24.520
consistent way that I can just let go.

2029
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I really appreciate it.

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It's a lot of fun. And I want to give

2031
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a shout out to Ryan who's listening to us right now.

2032
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He pops up in her chat from time to time.

2033
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And of course, thank you so much to each and

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every single one of you guys out there, no matter

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where you're listening from, whether you're listening to us right now,

2036
02:02:43.640 --> 02:02:47.199
or whether you're listening to us on Saturday night, Tuesday morning, whatever,

2037
02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:50.680
we appreciate that you guys take the time to listen

2038
02:02:50.720 --> 02:02:53.800
to us because Star Trek fans are the best fans.

2039
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You better believe that. Thank you so much for being

2040
02:02:56.960 --> 02:02:59.960
a fan. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim saying

2041
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yiling frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, good night, love

2042
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long and prosper Now else.

2043
02:03:10.560 --> 02:03:11.680
Can we go already?

2044
02:03:13.159 --> 02:03:25.399
Yes? Fine engage?

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02:03:45.760 --> 02:03:51.239
Uh hello, you have reached the que continuum. We are

2046
02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:53.199
unable to get to the phone right now because we

2047
02:03:53.279 --> 02:03:56.319
are busy living in a plane of existence. Your feeble

2048
02:03:56.520 --> 02:04:01.840
mortal minds cannot possibly comprehend. Furthermore, it's pointless to leave

2049
02:04:01.880 --> 02:04:04.479
a message, because we, of course already knew that you

2050
02:04:04.520 --> 02:04:07.239
would call, and we simply do not care.

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Have a nice day,