April 18, 2026

Episode 682 - Behind the Mask: Doug Jones's Journey in Sci-Fi and Fantasy

Episode 682 - Behind the Mask: Doug Jones's Journey in Sci-Fi and Fantasy
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This episode features an in-depth conversation with actor Doug Jones and Derek Maki, exploring his career, iconic roles, and upcoming documentary project. Discover behind-the-scenes stories, acting techniques, and insights into the world of creature effects and sci-fi cinema. Join us for an insightful interview with Tarina Rosling from Star Trek Discovery, where we explore her career, experiences, and the future of Star Trek. Discover behind-the-scenes stories, his journey in the franchise, and information on the documentary fans can look forward to "GET ME DOUG JONES"

Doug Jones, Star Trek Discovery, creature effects, sci-fi, acting, documentary, Guillermo del Toro, Star Trek, cosplay, behind the scenes Star Trek Discovery, Tarina Rosling, behind the scenes, franchise, science fiction, interview, career, future of Star Trek
key topics

  • Doug Jones's career and iconic roles
  • The creative process behind creature effects
  • Insights into working with Guillermo del Toro
  • The development of the Star Trek Discovery character Saru
  • Details about the upcoming Doug Jones documentary Tarina Rosling's role in Star Trek Discovery
  • Her career and experiences in science fiction
  • Future projects and insights into Star Trek

takeaways
  • Doug Jones has played over 200 characters, each with a unique ecosystem and backstory.
  • Costumes and makeup inform actor performance and character differentiation.
  • Doug Jones's work with Guillermo del Toro emphasizes the importance of heart and soul in monster roles.
  • The upcoming documentary aims to showcase Doug Jones’s career, accolades, and behind-the-scenes stories.
  • Doug Jones’s approach to acting involves channeling animal and human behaviors to bring characters to life.
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Hey guys. Thursday, April sixteen, twenty twenty six. Welcome to

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Truck Talking and Beyond, Episode six and eighty two. I'm

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your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast.

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Before we go too far, I'd like to introduce my

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awesome truck spirts. We're gonna start off with Eric. Eric

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is out in Portland. How are you doing tonight?

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Eric?

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How could I be doing any better? We have the

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most amazing guests on the show tonight. I'm I can

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barely keep my energy contained at this point, so yeah,

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I'm doing great.

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I also have with us David. David also out in Portland.

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How do you doing tonight? David?

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I'm doing pretty good. It's gonna be really exciting. It's

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a great day to trik talk.

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It is for me, and we also have out in Portland. Paul.

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How you're doing tonight, Paul, I'm doing well, my friend.

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And to echo Eric, I mean today is just stop depresses.

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I'm checking my pulse regularly, making sure I'm still conscious

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here on earth. But yeah, pretty excited, pretty excited.

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To be sure. So high with us from Las Vegas, Charles,

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How you're doing tonight, Charles, I'm doing good.

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Studio Bee is getting blown around, so I'm cool. Are staying? Uh?

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When on?

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When blown in studio? A looking forward to our.

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And last but not least from Virginia.

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We have our very own v I am so excited.

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My face is blue. I don't know why it's I'm Mandorian.

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I don't know it happens, but yeah, I'm just I'm

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not holding my breast. I'm not turning blue.

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And what kind of milk have you been drinking?

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The stuff that Brewce served Luke?

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Yes? And with us joining us live tonight we have

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Derek Mackie and he's been acting since he was seven

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years old. He's originally from Massachusetts, right up here in

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my neck of the woods, the state where he graduated

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high school, and Kyler Journey is a socials degree and

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broadcasting and telecommunications. Welcome to the podcast there.

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Thank you for having me. Someone has done their research.

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I'm a little humbled mass right.

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Well, the next our next guest really needs no introduction

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at all. The man, the myth, the legend himself, the

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one and only Doug Jones. We all know and love him,

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of course as mister Sirru from Star Trek Discovery. He's

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an American actor, contortionist, and mine. He is known for

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his frequent collaborations with Gaelmo del Torro in movies such

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as A Mimic, hell Boy, Pans, Labyrinth, hell Boy Two,

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The Golden Army, Crimson Peaks, and the Shape of Water. Also,

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let's not forget about the Silver Surfer. I mean, what

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hasn't Doug Jones done? That is the question. Welcome to

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the show.

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John, Well, thank you so much for having me.

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Wow, I just I want to start off by asking

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I'll ask both of you the question that I always

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start off with to lighten up the moon a little bit.

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What did you think about our intro.

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Catchy tune for sure made my fingers one of the

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dance and lots of imagery that's like, oh, this is

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a geek's paradise.

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Loved it, loved it.

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I loved it. I was I was pleasantly surprised to

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see that it wasn't all trick yeah stuff, because your

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your name is trek centric, but you're covering all aspects

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of fandom and geeked them in sci fi. So I

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love that.

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M m. Yeah, that's that's the angle that we're after.

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So I'm glad you guys caught it. So I wanted

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to ask a question, Doug. Next week we're gonna have

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Tara Rosling on the podcast to your wife on Star

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Trek Discovery. Yeah, I just wanted to ask you a

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little bit about that, how that came about and working

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with her, and a big question we had is are

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you is she miss missus Saru or are you How

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did that work?

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Yeah, I think she she's as you as you saw

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on the show. She's a rather independent, accomplished woman on

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her own. She I think we're we're mister and missus

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each other. I think it, We'll just save it. Uh.

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How that came about though, is a fun little little tidbit.

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She guest starred on one episode of season three.

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They were Michael Burnham called for a certain Vulcan ceremonial

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debate sort of thing to address an issue, and President

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Tarina came aboard our ship from from the planet Navar

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and and so her people had left the Federation since

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since when we jumped away ahead in time, we kind

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of defined the federation that had broken apart a little bit.

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now Navarre, had broken away. So how do we lure

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them back into the federation again?

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Uh?

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Saru was concerned with that, but also quite taken with

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her when she beamed aboard our ship, it was like,

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oh dear, who's that right? And so played by Tara Rosling,

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who is a Shakespearean trained actress who is drop dead

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gorgeous and and whole and can wear a fantastic gown

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like no one I've ever seen before. We jokingly called

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her Judy Bench because she's she's just that good, and

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so working with her was just like instantly as Seru,

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I took a liking to her immediately, and as Tarina,

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she took She can tell you her part of the

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story when you talk to her, but she took an

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instant liking to Seru as well, and I was her

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host around our ship while she came aboard for this

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special conference, and by the end of the of what

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was scripted for us, it was a goodbye scene in

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my quarters and I say, well, I know we have

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lots of lots of conversation yet to come about, you know,

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the federation and rejoining and all that, but in the meantime,

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I would like for our discussions to continue, which was

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like his way of saying, let's do coffee, right, uh so?

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And she said I would like that and gave me

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a live long and prosper and beamed out. And I

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was like, oh so. I asked our head writer, Michelle Paradise,

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are you heading Serou and Tarina into a little love thing?

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And she said, huh, I hadn't thought about that, And

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I was like, how could we have missed this? Are

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you kidding me? It seemed so Ta Tara and me again.

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Tar will tell you her end of this, but we

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it was super obvious to us that this was a

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love burgeoning, you know, And so sure enough they brought

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her back in season four and the love continued and

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grew into the relationship that we ended up having. What

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I loved about our relationship too, was that it was

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so dignified and it was so it was like a

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frock drama romance where at the end of season four

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we built all the way up to holding hands and

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the crowd went nuts, you know, Instead of like hopping

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into bed with each other immediately, it was much more.

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It was more of a courtship. And I, as an

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old school person myself, that was lovely to play.

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And I worked at a high school and I want

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to give a shout out to all my teats that

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are watching right now. And the librarian at the high

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school had a question specifically, she wanted me to ask you,

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doug Oh. She said, with all the different characters that

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you've played, how do you keep all of the characters

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different so that they're not they don't all feel like

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the same character since you're immersed in all that makeup.

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Well, you know, this June marks my fortieth year as

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an actor. So in that time I've played two hundred

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sum characters, So how do you make them different? That's

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my challenge is how do I make this one different

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than the last one. And I've played several aliens over

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the years, yes, so each one has to have his

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own ecosystem and it's his own backstory and what leads

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him into who he is today. So when you internalize

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all of that, different things come out of you physically

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as well. You know, with Saru, what helped an awful

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lot was the hoof boots that I wore. That kind

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of changed my posture because I had to keep. It

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was a balancing act and that through my hips forward

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to keep because I didn't have a heel to rely on,

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and that gave me room to do my little swishy

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hand movement behind me as I walked, So that that

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was a posture and a walk that I had never

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done before in all my years. So I loved, loved

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that the costuming actually helped inform that. So the design

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of the costume or makeup will often help inform how

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he's to be.

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Sonn, thank you so much, and I'm going to turn

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the microphone over to you. Eric. Great.

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Thanks, Yeah, I would love to riff on first of all.

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Thank you so much for joining us, both of you,

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and my question was also for Doug, So sorry, Derek.

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We will absolutely get you as well. But my main

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question just kind of riffed off of that whole idea

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of your relationship with Tarina. I think for so many

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of us, exactly what you're saying was very right. It

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kind of built slowly. We saw these kind of underpinnings

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kind of start to happen at the beginning, and then

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we all thought right from the beginning. So it was

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great to hear that story. Thank you so much for

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sharing that. What I guess, more specifically, what was it

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like to work with Tarra? She seems like just an

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amazing individual. I would love to know more about, you know,

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how you folks got to spend time in the room

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together or or any anything like that.

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Yeah, all right, Tara and I can We really connected

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off camera as well. I just really just adore her.

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She again, Shakespearean trained actress, so she showed up to

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work memorized and ready to go. She was the most

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professional actress I've ever worked with in my entire life.

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But between takes, yeh, something goofy was happening. She was

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right the first one to laugh about it, you know.

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So we uh, there was a scene, Oh my gosh,

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what I can't remember what season it was in or

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we were no uh uh, Navarre was about to was

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about to rejoin the Federation. So it's farther into season

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orror and we're having a big count of the Romulans

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and the Vulcans are all sitting at a table with

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us from discuss from a few Federation members and they're

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discussing the terms of of rejoining and beingcoming a part

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of this. So it was a big kind of a

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you know, an important moment in the history. And so

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at some point the meeting broke up and exits are happening.

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Tara exited, I exited after her and I tripped on

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something so off camera you hear.

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But the.

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Scene was continuing in the room with president with President

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Torillik and uh, and I think and I think Captain Burnham,

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I think they if I remember correctly, somebody was still

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in the room talking while I'm tripping off camera and

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Tara and I could not contain, we couldn't couldn't bring

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it back. Yeah, so guys wiping tears. Loved her, loved

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love spending time.

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Oh my gosh, I hope we get to see that

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on a blooper reel. Something amazing. Okay, I just have

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one other question where we're going to quickly move through

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because we have a lot of interviewers and we want

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to cover a lot of grounds. So I guess the

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other question that I just wanted to ask you was,

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I know that you've gotten a couple of chances to play,

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you know, characters without the prosthetics. You're, of course so

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well known for for being with the prosthetics, So I

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guess my question would be, if you could play another character,

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do you have a character that's out there in a

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I don't know, in a book or in your imagination,

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or a type of character or something that didn't involve

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you wearing prosthetics and you just wanted it to be

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just dug Do you have anything in mind that might

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be interesting or have you ever thought about something that

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you haven't done that you would like to do.

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Yes, when it comes to the rubber bits, I have

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played everything that on my bucket list to play, and

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in fact, now that I'm sixty five years old, I'm

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kind of leaning into human characters off more than ever

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and at a lot of filmmakers have come forward and

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wanted me for various human parts. Now, so the last

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since I took through off my face, I haven't had

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any other rubber on it last couple of years. So

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I've been playing a lot of humans. But the one

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human that I really want to play that I haven't yet.

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I want to be the dad of a grown woman

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who is going through relationship issues in a Hallmark Christmas movie. Okay,

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stay with me, you want, I get to wear a

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sweater with reindeer on it and hold it of Coco.

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I give her some really good fatherly advice. Man, you

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can you see it.

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Doug, I would watch that. I would one hundred percent

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watch that. That sounds amazing.

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I can see it already. You'll be like, well, kitten,

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just don't date a fish man.

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Don't date.

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And it'll be okay, right.

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Would you like some Coco?

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You take one?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, exactly?

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Oh my goodness.

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All right.

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Well, as you can tell by my by my one

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sixth scale exo six Saru character up there, which is

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not a not a cheap little bit. I'm a big

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Saru fan and just I just want to say I

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want to fanboy for a second and say thank you

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so much. I know that a lot of people have

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said a lot about Zaru. I just think he's such

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a great character and we love to see how he

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grows over the seasons and how he interacts with Michael Burnham,

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who I personally think is one of the best captains

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that we've ever seen on Star Trek. And the relationship

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that you and Tarena have is a really great example

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among many in Star Trek of really healthy relationships and

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the way that relationships should grow and kind of like

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benefit both parties because of you know, coming to the

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table together, maybe slight changes, seeing each other, all of

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those different things. So love it. Thank you so much. Yeah, absolutely,

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I'm going to pass the mic over to me.

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All right, well hello again, what's your I can't think

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of forgetting people's names, David, can you please show the

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pictures that I sent you. I don't know if you

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remember this, but this was like the highlight of last September.

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Do you have them there?

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So I had to quickly do a bunch of clicking.

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Yes, all right, there's one. There's that was that was

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my favorite. You suggested that we squosh each other's faces,

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and as I'm so sweet and as I'm squoashing your face,

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it's like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm doing this.

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But that was just the highlight that Star Trek new.

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Jersey Con was just so much fun. It was, and

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you were just so so sweet and kind. What I

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wish I had known?

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Then?

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What one more picture? Do I have another one?

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There?

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David? I think there were three? Yes, yeah, that one

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and that awe, that's like a yes, yeah, that's where

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I was an eighteenth century version of Captain Jane Way's

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Holidack character Arachnea. So that's that's what I was doing

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that weekend. So anyway, but I wish I hadn't. I

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wish I had known. It wasn't until afterwards about what

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we do in the Shadows. Oh my goodness. I binge

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watched that and I was laughing until I cried. I mean,

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Baron often as the umpire, I mean, he was just

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absolute perfection and that show is so naughty. Oh my work,

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it was. I was I'm by myself and I'm blushing.

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It's like, oh my goodness, but just absolutely wonderful. So

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thank you for for that, because I had before that

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I had known you, seen you a little bit as

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Saro and Discovery, but also of course Billy Butcherson in

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hocus Pocus. But I do know I did see that.

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I think it was your first. Your first job as

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a as a character was I believe Charlie Cardinal.

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At Ball State University. I was the master. Yeah, so

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did you?

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Uh?

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Because the Cardinal is Virginia a state bird, so I'm

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partial to cardinals. So but anyway, so that was your

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first and then mac Tonight of course was your big break,

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which that was absolutely delightful. But my question to you

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would be if the whole acting thing hadn't worked out,

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what would you have done instead? Did you have a

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backup plan?

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But no, not.

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When I was in college, I was, I was really

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headed toward uh show biz. But in my later years

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I'd have thought if if I wasn't an actor, I

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probably had gone gone into nursing.

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Yeah. I like that.

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Nurses have more hands on time with patients than Oh absolutely.

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And.

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So yeah, I'm sorry. You would have been an awesome nurse.

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You would have been, uh, you know, alongside Robin Williams

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as Patch Adams. You know, that would have been That

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would have been a duo.

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Oh my goodness, I would have loved Are you kidding

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out of a great Uh? My brother is a licensed

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therapist in the state of Indiana, and he tells me

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that I that I would have made a better therapist

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than him. That's very sweet of him to say, but

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he he has, He's said over the years he's watched

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me with some with being a bit of an impath,

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you know, getting into someone's space and and and hearing

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them out.

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Uh.

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So maybe I would have been a good therapist. I

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don't know, but I but nursing is what I probably

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would have pursued if it hadn't interacting.

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Well, just thank you for everything you've done, and thank

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you for your kindness to me at that calm last September.

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That's one of my cherished memories. And I just want.

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Back to you. Thanks.

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All right, who's next?

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Oh I'm up?

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Net?

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Okay, the kind of sort of sneak up a little bit.

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On one of my quests.

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Sorry, but one of my questions was just I want

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to know what went into making mac tonight that was

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just such an influential change from McDonald's.

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Yeah, it was, well McDonald's. Uh, the local, the local

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advertising agency that handled California, Oregon, and Arizona, just the

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West coast region, developed that character as a regional spot

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just to up their business after four pm. They because

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their breakfast and lunch time they were they were set.

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And then they had all those McDonald land characters that

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that appealed to kids. They wanted a nighttime character that

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would appeal to adults that would also bring traffic in

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for dinner time. And that's why dinner was part of

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that campaign as the moonhead mac Tonight. They developed it.

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It went gangbusters and and it it Actually the sales

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figures did go up after four pm until the national

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office in Chicago said, let's take it across the country.

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So they added more commercials to the campaign and ran

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it across the country, network television, the whole nine yards

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and bingo, it worked there too. Let's take it worldwide.

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It played in several countries around the world then, and

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I ended up doing twenty seven commercials as that character

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over a three year period, marking me as tall, skinny,

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goofy guy who moves well, where's a lot of crud

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on his head and doesn't complain about signification that Mack

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toight helped for me and the creature affects people that

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worked on that campaign, they borrowed people from the bigger

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creature shops to come work on these commercials. That many

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commercial shoots, and the creature effects guy that made the

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moonhead and fashioned it in the first place worked out

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of his garage. He didn't have a full staff people,

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so he borrowed people from the bigger shops like Rick

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Baker and Stan Winston and those huge shops and to

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come work on help puppeteer, help re refurbish the skin

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on the new head or whatever. And then they would

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go back to those shops and I would see a

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conceptual art for a new movie or TV show coming

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with a tall, skinny alien in it or some kind

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of a smog creature that was like and they would say,

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let's work with him, you know, on this commercial. So

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then I would get referral phone calls, and then that

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started the ball rolling with referrals. So most of my

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career has circumvented the conventional casting process. I met very

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few casting directors over the years because I got direct

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calls from the creature shops and the producers of said

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movie or TV show trusted the creature shop and said

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find him, get him. That's great, and that was that's

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how I got cast in so many things. So went

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right into right into Star Trek Discovery. I ended up

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Neville Page and Glenn Hetrick, who were designed through.

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COT.

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They thought of me and kind of put my name

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in there with the showrunners and the writer's room and

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they said, oh, let's can you get him? And so

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that phone call happened and I went into to meet

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with with It was Brian Fuller at first who started

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the show, and I didn't have to audition. They were

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they were presenting me with all of that was going

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to be Discovery and here's what Saru will be And

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what do you think, Doug? And I'm like, well, this

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is a turn of events. I didn't have to answer it,

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you know, so so I really owe the creature affects

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people most of my career, God bless them.

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So what made you decide to do a documentary about

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your career?

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That's a question for Derek.

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Doug turned me down two times and he's not going

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to make a documentary about himself. This is my life

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letter to Don and I wanted to do it because

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he's been a client of mine for eighteen years who

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has become family. And I've had Doug cry on my shoulder.

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I've had Doug being sheer with tiumphs that he's had,

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and I have watched him through these years, have all

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of these emotions and bad times and good times, and

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I went, Wow, his fan base needs to see this.

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They need to see that it's not all about being

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rich and famous on the silver screen, and that it's

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it's now an overnight success. So this is my love

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letter to Doug. Doug does not receive the accolades that

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he should receive, so this film is making up for

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all the missing accolades that he needs to have on

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his mantle.

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Well, Doug has major imposter syndrome, So doing this if

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I ah not worthy?

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La la la la la.

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But that's why I turned him down the first two

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times when presenting the idea of a documentary, I was like, well,

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what's to document this whole thing? Nah, you got better

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subject matter out there. It was the third try that

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I said, okay, when we were about to start the

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convention in Las Vegas, the Star Trek STLV was about

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to begin. We were there for the on my first

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day a couple of years ago. This was, and before

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going downstairs to start the table for the day, Derek

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called me and said, hey, come stop by my hotel

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room before you go down and talk to you about something.

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I get to this hotel room and there he is

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with director William Conlin, and so they were like kind

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of like ganging up on me. William Connon. He pitched

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William Conlin to me, and with a pedigree in documentaries

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and filmmaking, he's as a career. So I'm like, okay,

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we would be in good hands with him. I see it.

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I see that, but also still a documentary about me.

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I just I don't get it. And then I also

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said that's going to be a lot of work for

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me too, because I mean, you're gonna want me to

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call people and email people, and how do you ask,

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you know, an old friend from thirty years ago, would

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you go on film and say nice things about me?

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Please?

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I know, I just it's just a lifetime of embarrassment

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about to happen. So they promised me that I wouldn't

473
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:38.960
have to do much, so I'm so we decided I said, okay,

474
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:41.480
let's do it. And then so that the camera comes out.

475
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.799
Let's get started that day. So they started filming fan

476
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.880
interaction at my table and interviewing fans as they walked

477
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.119
away from my table, and they getting a lot of

478
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.240
lot of footage of me interacting and walking around. I mean,

479
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.519
when you walk from your table to your panel to

480
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:02.680
your photo ops, you ass halways full of people going hey, Doug,

481
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:05.559
why hey, Well so I caught all that on film

482
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:07.559
and I'm like, well, that was the first day of filming,

483
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:12.039
my gosh. So so since then, since then, they've gotten

484
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.200
a lot more b rolled like that many of my

485
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.200
public appearances and Derek has been my appearance manager for

486
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.480
eighteen years. He's he's one who handles that portion of

487
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:26.400
my career, the live events, and so he has witnessed

488
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.720
firsthand what that interaction is like when I get out

489
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:32.759
to meet the public, and it's one of my favorite

490
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:38.160
things about my career. I love, love, love love getting

491
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.000
feedback from people. You know, when you're when you're a

492
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.200
stage actor, you get immediate feedback from an audience. They laugh,

493
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.279
they cry, they clap. When you're doing it on camera,

494
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:50.119
you don't, you don't, you don't hear it right away? Right,

495
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.319
So a convention and a public venue where you get

496
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.359
a line of people waiting to tell you how your piece,

497
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:02.079
your project affected them. Oh my god, that's great love.

498
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.279
I love the stories that they bring with them. Here's

499
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:05.799
what I was going through in my life when I

500
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.640
saw this or that of yours, and I sear lots

501
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:13.000
of personal stories, lots of personal stories about health issues.

502
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.319
I was going through my chemo treatments, and I watched

503
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.599
your show during the pandemic. Star Trek Discovery helped a

504
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:20.880
lot of people through that period of time. A lot

505
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:25.000
of binge watching happened during then, a lot of movies

506
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:28.400
I've been in where you know, my dad and I

507
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.720
used to watch this together. Now that he's gone, every

508
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:33.680
time I watch it, it reminds me of him. These are

509
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:35.920
stories that I cherish and I love being a part

510
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.319
of people's lives in this way. I mean, I wouldn't

511
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.200
hear about it if I didn't do these conventions. So

512
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.400
that's that's why I'm very grateful to him for having

513
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.039
arranged that all these years. So when he said I

514
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.160
want to produce a documentary on you, I thought, well, okay,

515
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:50.039
I'm in pretty good hands with him too, you know,

516
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:53.400
I humbled because.

517
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.799
It took so long, Vincent, and I'm glad and we've

518
00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:59.519
had such an amazing shoot for the last two and

519
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.680
a half year and where we still have more to do,

520
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.319
Like we're not done yet, So you know we're gonna

521
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.599
have we have so many hours of footage. And I

522
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.359
make the joke all the time that we're going to

523
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.279
have three versions of the film. It will be the

524
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.640
theatrical version, which everyone will see two hours long. We'll

525
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.440
have the director's cut, which is four hours long, and

526
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.640
then we're going to have the duper Pooper executive producers cut,

527
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.680
which will be mine, which would be six hours long,

528
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.279
and then there will be the Blu ray with all

529
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:31.799
the bonus feet. Yeah, basically the three weeks of viewing

530
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:32.920
that fans will have to do.

531
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.519
I can't imagine that much Doug in one sitting. I'm

532
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:36.599
so sorry.

533
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.640
Well, I'm going to pass it over to Paul because

534
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.759
I know Paul's anxious for a question.

535
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:46.839
Well, I can imagine a lot of Doug in one

536
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.039
sitting like that. Let me just say, because you know,

537
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.319
did I actually hear you say you had something kind

538
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:53.640
of an imposter syndrome?

539
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:55.759
Doug? Is that did that really come out of your

540
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.759
mouth and still will.

541
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:02.000
I just I'm sorry I have to take counterpoint for

542
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.319
that for you, because you're like the lawn Cheney of

543
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:09.079
this era, my friend, I mean literally, right. I mean

544
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:13.319
I've been a fan of yours since well since the

545
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.839
mimic days, Okay, So, I mean I absolutely think you're

546
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:20.079
just astonishing. I'm a huge fan of the work that

547
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.640
you've done with Guiamo do Toro. I mean, so much

548
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.839
pivotal historic work. I mean, if Guerremo is Martin Scorsese,

549
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.440
you're his Robert de Niro. I mean, you've been in

550
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:33.839
so many movies together, right, I mean and just and

551
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.480
profoundly historic ones. I think that have really I mean,

552
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.599
the shape of water changed so much of the way

553
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.680
that like the mainstream and the Academy was able to

554
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.519
even look at a creature feature, if you will, right.

555
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.799
I mean's just you know, I just love the take

556
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:54.079
you always bring towards the fantastic and the monsterous, right.

557
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.680
I mean, I don't know if the other Truxpertzer is,

558
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.599
you know, deep into Guermo del Toro, but he said

559
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:06.000
that monsters are like the patron saints of our blissful imperfections, right,

560
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:09.599
That's one of the things. I feel like you embody

561
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.599
that so beautifully in every performance, Doug. I mean, there

562
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:18.119
is a tenderness and a poignancy and a dignity that

563
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.200
is always there in every performance that you do. And

564
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.319
I just I just, I just hope. I mean, that's

565
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:27.839
what I hope gets front and center in a documentary

566
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.680
about you, is the humanity and compassion you bring to

567
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:31.000
your work.

568
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:32.079
It is humbling, my friend.

569
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:35.599
Oh, thank you so much. You know, when Giermo was

570
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:39.599
filming The Shape of Water with me, he kept reminding me, Dougie,

571
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.920
you are the romantic leading man of this Belie fish

572
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:50.119
suit only the only director who could pull that one off.

573
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:55.519
But he also but he also stressed the romance and

574
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.319
how much that had to work. So so we had

575
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.319
to bring heart and soul. Sally Hawkins as a leading

576
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:05.640
lady and me as her love interest was a connection

577
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.880
that was actually I felt the chemistry. And Germo was

578
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.240
very smart. He did something very smart with us. There

579
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.759
was a dance number in Shapewater. If you remember, she

580
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.359
goes off into a fantasy with us in a black

581
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:22.400
and white MGM musical doing a dance number together and

582
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.359
when I saw that in the script, I was like, oh, Glory,

583
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.640
b this is my dream come true. Right, But I'm

584
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.400
going to be doing it in flipper feet, you know

585
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:38.319
what I'm saying. But neither Sally nor I being ballroom dancers,

586
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.119
we had to go through rehearsal ahead of time. So

587
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.240
he brought us up to Toronto where we were filming

588
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.519
about three weeks before filming, started to rehearse that dance

589
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:51.160
number over and over again every day until we were

590
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:55.440
proficient at it. And so during those rehearsal times, Sally

591
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.799
and I had time to connect and to get to

592
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.279
know each other, to laugh together, to cry together. We

593
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.680
were both terrified of this movie because we knew how

594
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:07.279
big it could be and how important it was to Guiermo,

595
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.400
and how both of us both of us had imposter

596
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.920
syndrome and could share that with each other, like I'm

597
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:14.400
going to ruin the movie. No, I'm going to ruin

598
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:19.280
the movie. No, you don't. We were a mess and

599
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:20.920
so we have, but we had each other. So by

600
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.360
the time the cameras started rolling, we had each other

601
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.119
like this, and so I think that that helped help

602
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.000
our chemistry on camera for sure. And he was very

603
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:29.800
smart to do that.

604
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:33.119
Just one last question for me, and then I know

605
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:34.639
Uncle Jim has a lot of things he wants to

606
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.360
still follow up with both of you on about the

607
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:39.480
about the documentary, but it just having done, you know,

608
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:44.239
two prior turns as Abe Sapien very very similar character

609
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.039
and in physically, I would I would think, right from

610
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.840
from a distance at least very similar in the hell

611
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:54.920
Boy movies when you when you daunted by the prospect

612
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.679
of taking on another kind of amphibious character, and it

613
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.519
didn't seem like to me in the audience, it seemed

614
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.320
he seems so distinctively different in shape of water. I mean,

615
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.639
he is a leading man, and he's a lot I think,

616
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.400
more forceful, and.

617
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:10.920
Uh and and and uh.

618
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.360
But but what was your How did you evolve just

619
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:18.159
your perspective and approaching something that was in somebody some

620
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.519
ways so similar yet really different, if that makes sense.

621
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.440
When Guermo pitched the idea of the shape of water

622
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.599
to me, he's going to be a fish man, I

623
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:28.880
was like, well, didn't I play one of those for

624
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:29.480
you already?

625
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:29.679
You know?

626
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.639
And so I said, any relation to Ape Sapien, No,

627
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:38.400
completely different timeline, different guys, different different backstories. Uh, basically,

628
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:40.880
you know Ape Sapien was. I think Ape Sapean is

629
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:44.639
actually more like Seru in Star Trek than he is

630
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.280
like the Amphibian man for the Shape of Water, because

631
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.000
he's a very dignified, poised gentleman. He's a very calming

632
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:56.199
effect on the people around him, and he's super smart.

633
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:59.280
He reads three books at a time, he listens to

634
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.480
classical musa and you know he's such a gentleman and

635
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:08.519
a diplomat as was through. So so those two that

636
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.639
could get more similarities. Pivgerman from the Shape of Water,

637
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.480
Animal from the Wild and Ghermo kept telling me again

638
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.400
and again, you're an animal. I don't want to see

639
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.760
any human adult. You're an animal. So if I was

640
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.400
doing the scene that was interacting with somebody in the cast, well,

641
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.199
specifically Richard Jenkins did a great job. He was babysitting

642
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.199
me in one scene. So Eliza, my love interest Sally

643
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.519
Hopkins was off at work during the day or the

644
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.800
nighttime shift. He was sitting in with me in the

645
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.719
bathroom and I'm in the tub because that's where fish live.

646
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.880
So so he's and he's an artist, so he's drawing

647
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.400
a sketch of me and having a therapy session. He's

648
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:50.519
talking about his issues and and and we're relating to

649
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.719
each other. Well, he thinks for relating to each other,

650
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.480
but I'm just I'm I don't understand it word be saying, right,

651
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:58.719
because I'm an animal. So so the thing was, though,

652
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.239
I'm listening to this beautiful mom from Richard Jenkins, and

653
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.360
he's a brilliant actor, and for a minute there I

654
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:08.000
started having a human, sort of human body language reaction

655
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:13.599
to him. Yeah, mocott douggie, that's all he said. And

656
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:17.079
I was like, animal, I get it, I get it.

657
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:19.880
So I tried.

658
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.960
What I tried to channel was the family dog. You know,

659
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.320
everybody talks to the dog. Hey, do use it to

660
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.599
good boy? Do you want to go outside? Have you

661
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.119
eaten today? I think you have it? You need a

662
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.119
bowl of food. So we talk to dogs all the

663
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:34.960
time and they don't understand a word we're saying, but

664
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.440
they understand tone and our vibe. And so I thought, okay,

665
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:40.639
I'm gonna channel that. I don't get what he's saying,

666
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:42.960
but I'm gonna be there and like h as the

667
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:52.800
family dog. But anyways seemed to work. H Richard Jenkins.

668
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:56.519
We're we're hoping to get him, aren't we. Hopefully we'll see,

669
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.599
we'll see. But he has a story to tell about

670
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.679
about that very scene when he's maybe seen me the bathtub,

671
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:06.800
because before the cameras rolled, he thought, oh, my gosh,

672
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.079
what movie am I sitting in?

673
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:09.800
You know, with this.

674
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.599
Here's a guy in a in a bath he's wearing

675
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.119
a rubber suit and he's on a bathtub. This is

676
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.599
the most preposterous thing. The cameras rolled, and then then

677
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.679
he said, oh my gosh, the magic happened. I get

678
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.960
it now, I get it. So that was very, very

679
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.679
nice to hear him say that whatever we were doing

680
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.920
seemed to work well.

681
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:32.360
All I can say is, Doug, your work is extraordinary,

682
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.679
my friend. I mean, it's just it's if anybody ever

683
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.400
has any feelings of being a misfit in a life,

684
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:41.840
or an outcast, or somebody who's, like you know, feelings

685
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.360
they don't fit in or they're concerned there's a monster

686
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.320
in themselves, your work helps purge those feelings. I think

687
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.440
it's just there's so much humanity in your performances, and

688
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.800
I just can't wait to see what you do next.

689
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.519
And here you share more about your your work in

690
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.239
this becoming documentary, and my uncle Jim's got a few questions.

691
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.119
He wants to make sure that we get to to.

692
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:03.840
Derek on that.

693
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.159
But oh my god, do I love your Giama do

694
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:07.400
Tomorrow impersonation?

695
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.880
I'm dying he does not.

696
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.119
I don't know why, but.

697
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.920
Quick tid that I was on stage with him doing

698
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.400
a panel Q and eight for something and I did

699
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:24.159
an impression of him in front of him. I'm telling

700
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:25.039
the audience like, you.

701
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.400
Know, uh, Douggie, do this, do that?

702
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:32.840
And me do I sound like that? Yes?

703
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.559
Well, I can't wait to see what's coming next. And

704
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.239
thank you for your work. It's just simply absolutely sublime.

705
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.320
And uh, and both of you for making a documentary

706
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.239
like this. It just feels really overdue. And again, you know,

707
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:52.239
for you have a remarkably strong place in cinemasty. I'm

708
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:56.239
just super, super super grateful for all of your performances. So,

709
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.199
Uncle Jim, I know you've got a lot of behind

710
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.960
the scenes questions though, and things targeting Derek in the production.

711
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:03.360
So I want to get out of the way, so

712
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.360
I'm going back to you. But I think David, I

713
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.559
think David might have a question, right, David.

714
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:12.400
Yeah, I just got a quick question for First of all,

715
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.800
welcome to a show. Glad to have you guys. My

716
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.760
quick question for you going away from sci fi, and

717
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.199
I just wanted to know what it was like to

718
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:25.320
work with Felicia Day and the Dragon Age Redemption movie

719
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:26.639
back in twenty eleven.

720
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.119
Good heavens, no one ever mentions that, so thank you

721
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.599
for that. Dragon Age Redemption was a actually a web series.

722
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.599
It might be compiled back together as a movie now,

723
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.559
but it was a web series based on the game,

724
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:44.159
and the game actually the game company was behind it

725
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.599
as well, so they sponsored that web series. Alicia Day

726
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:51.199
is the geek Queen of the world. Herds around the

727
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.840
world love her and revere her because she is. She

728
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.000
is a nerd gamer and comic book lover and all

729
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:02.239
things geeky. She's the one she champions that, so to

730
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.480
work with her was just dreamy. Plus she's so good humored.

731
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.800
And I met her at an after party at Comic

732
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:13.800
Con a couple of years before and she she said,

733
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.440
oh gosh, I I love your face. I want to

734
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.360
do something with your face in it. So I ended

735
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.320
up doing her her web series, The Guild I was.

736
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:26.840
I did six episodes of The Guild one season, and

737
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.079
as a as a steampunk dandy, so I wear a

738
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.719
top hat and clothes, and then of course she's like, yeah,

739
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.280
I kind of want you for this, this costumed character

740
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.519
and dragon Age Redemption. So I was, I was the

741
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:43.239
main villain. I forget what my character name was even.

742
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.159
I thought, oh, so Abash or something like that.

743
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.760
That's service. Yeah, thank you. Yes, a horned individual that

744
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:52.639
had them sawed off. And I had magical powers too,

745
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:53.760
so that was kind of fun to play.

746
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.760
Yes, I was just curious about it because dragon Age

747
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.199
was something that I grew up with, and so when

748
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:01.920
I thought, I was like, oh, wow, you're in it.

749
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.599
So I just, you know, I had to agree about it.

750
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:05.280
So thank you for that questioning.

751
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.960
That's very sweet. All right, Thank you David, and thank

752
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.079
you so much to Doug and Derek. But I did

753
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.840
want to ask a little bit about the upcoming documentary. Doug.

754
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.360
I mean, you've been quiet, you've been very well manned,

755
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:23.639
like the family dog, just waiting patiently. So I think

756
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:25.239
we're going to give you a chance not to take

757
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.239
the microphone and tell all our listeners a little bit

758
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.480
about the title of it, and how they can find

759
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.280
out about it, how they can help with it, and

760
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:34.800
maybe where you got the idea to do it.

761
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:38.920
That's that's a Derek question actually that he spiked at

762
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.440
the beginning of this spark and let him take that.

763
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.079
Take the beginnings so well.

764
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.159
Doug has been a client of mine for eighteen years

765
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:50.119
and we become.

766
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.239
As my apparents managers, right, So he's only does my

767
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:53.920
life appearances, yes, right, and.

768
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.079
Then over those years we've grown to be basically extended family.

769
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.280
And I absolutely love him, and I've had Doug cry

770
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.519
on my shoulder, and I've had Doug share triumphs with me,

771
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.960
and I've watched him have ups and downs for these

772
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.519
eighteen years, and there's so much that I admire him

773
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.119
for and feel that he didn't ever get the accolades

774
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.920
that he deserved. So this film is my love letter

775
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.199
to him. These are the accolades all compiled into one.

776
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.039
And part of it is to tell his story and

777
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:26.320
his journey for his fans that already know him but

778
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.719
want to learn new things about him. Part of it

779
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.840
is also for fans who don't know who he is

780
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:32.719
to learn about him and go back and look at

781
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.119
his career and follow him. And then some of it

782
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:38.199
is to get the attention of some of the industry

783
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.880
folks who maybe have overlooked him when it comes to

784
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.360
things like Academy Awards, because it bothers me that he's

785
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.440
never won one as an actor. He should have because

786
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.880
he's done some amazing performances. And the title of the

787
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.239
film is basically kind of what Doug was talking about earlier,

788
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:59.199
where he became basically infamous in the industry as someone

789
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.480
who he never come He went with everything. He was professional,

790
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.400
he always came prepared. So it was like, well, if

791
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.239
that's who it is, then just get me Doug Jones.

792
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.280
And it became this when I talked to the director

793
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.880
about it and he's like, no, it's perfect, that's the film.

794
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.239
So it kind of became organic, and it's something that

795
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:19.840
I still believe to this day because now Doug has

796
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.079
been very gracious without wearing rubber bits anymore. He even

797
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:26.480
gives chances to some young independent filmmakers who want a

798
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.400
name for their film and they're like, well, get me

799
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.519
Doug Jones. We love him, let's put him in our film.

800
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.840
And he's gracious enough to make that possible, So there

801
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:38.679
is a lot that needs to be old and stories

802
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:40.880
to be told about Doug. And so this is what

803
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.280
we're doing, you know. And it's two years over two

804
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:46.639
and a half years already of filming and we'll finish

805
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:48.719
filming this year and get it ready for release in

806
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.519
twenty twenty seven. So it's you know, it's a long process,

807
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:54.440
but we don't want to rush it because there is

808
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:56.840
so much to tell them where so much to weed through.

809
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.760
Because we've gotten such amazing interviews with co stars such

810
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.639
as Snika, Martin Green, Ron Perlman, Noah Wiley, and behind

811
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.760
the scenes people like Mike Olsaldi and Tony Gardner and

812
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.960
David Kirshner, and we've got a lot more. And we

813
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.480
don't release names of people that we haven't actually gotten

814
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.280
on camera yet because just in case their interviews fall

815
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.960
through for whatever reason, could be medical, could be their schedule,

816
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.239
they have to go film. But we update IMDb consistently,

817
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.599
so the minute someone completes their on camera interview, their

818
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:33.159
name gets added to IMDb. And we're going to make

819
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:35.880
a true it's not going to be an effort, it's

820
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.119
going to be a fact. Every single person that is

821
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.840
on camera, even if it's for ten seconds, are going

822
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:43.920
to be in the film. There isn't a single person

823
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.039
that we've interviewed who doesn't want to just keep talking

824
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.559
about this man in a positive light. And today he

825
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.360
found out that part of what we were trying to

826
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:56.039
do fun. But the first sets of interviews we did,

827
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:58.800
we were asking for dirt undug. Did he ever complain?

828
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:02.519
Did he ever not be prepared? Nobody has a negative

829
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.159
thing to say about him, which I knew, but now

830
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.920
it just it's all confirmed, and it just Dugs an

831
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:12.559
amazing actor that blows my mind every time I watch

832
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:14.800
him on screen and will continue to do so.

833
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.760
I just love that. I trust you so much. Yet

834
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:18.199
you were trying to get data.

835
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:18.559
Yeah, I.

836
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.039
Mean that's what like a brother would do, right, That's

837
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:24.800
a very close relationship. That's good.

838
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.639
Yeah, yeah, so let's see.

839
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.719
Oh so you said what? So for those of you

840
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:34.880
who want to learn about the film, who are watching this,

841
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.320
I implore you to please either go to IMDb dot

842
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.360
com and look up get Me Doug Jones add it

843
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.000
to your watch list, and then also go to get

844
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.559
Me Doug Jones dot com. That's the film's official website.

845
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.239
We always have updates on there as well. And what

846
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.920
I'm very proud of is that we were able to

847
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.360
raise the funds to shoot the principal photography in pre

848
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.559
production for the film on our own, all through private

849
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.360
investment and people who believed in the project that I

850
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.079
wanted to bring to front. The hardest part is getting

851
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:09.199
the funds to finish the film, and finishing the film

852
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:10.920
is not and everyone's just like, oh, what are you

853
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.159
gonna do? Have an editor? Well, yes we do. We

854
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.599
need an editor, and we need to pay for music,

855
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.559
and there's certain music that we want to have in

856
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:19.440
it that you have to pay the rights for. If

857
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.559
you want to have clips, depending on what they are,

858
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.639
you may have to pay for that. But the biggest

859
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:26.960
one is the film festival circuit. You don't go to

860
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.880
film festivals for free, none of them. They all cost money.

861
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.280
You have to pay to be submitted, and then if submitted,

862
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:36.440
you got to pay to get your film. You got

863
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.000
to get the film out there. You've got to bring

864
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.360
your cast out there to talk about it in front

865
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.119
of the public. If you want to walk the red

866
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.199
carpet at the cons Film festival, you know in France

867
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:48.159
you have to pay for all that the festival doesn't

868
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:50.239
do that for you. So we want to make sure

869
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:55.039
that this film is seen globally, not just here in California,

870
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.519
and so we need the funds in order to help that.

871
00:47:57.639 --> 00:47:59.960
So what we're doing is we're doing a crowd fund

872
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.000
finishing campaign on Indiegogo. It opens on April twentieth, and

873
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.719
we're asking for those of you who can to sign up,

874
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:11.639
and we've got all kinds of perks. Some are very

875
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:14.440
cost effective, some are one of a kind pieces that

876
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.159
are you know, it's a bit of a paycheck, but

877
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.000
you know, whatever you can to help us tell this story.

878
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:24.960
And we're not begging for anything. I'm telling this story

879
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:28.480
whether we raise another penny or not. I promise Doug that,

880
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.079
and I'm going to keep my word. Doug has been

881
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.800
gracious enough to help us with the finishing campaign by

882
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:38.760
donating things from his personal archives. So we've got original

883
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:41.360
shooting scripts, his personal scripts from what we do in

884
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.079
The Shadows and Star Trek Discovery that have been signed.

885
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.800
We've got from Star Trek, we've got an original prosthetic

886
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:50.159
piece that was never used. It was a backup one

887
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.920
to be ready in case something happened on set, We've

888
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:57.480
got Doug's original practice shoes for Sharu. So far, most

889
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.480
of the afors that we have interviewed have been enough

890
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.199
to sign limited edition pieces like either eight y tens

891
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.960
or sixteen by twenties, and there's a bunch of surprises

892
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.559
coming as well. We have a sixty day campaign that

893
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.159
though those pieces that I mentioned are all publicly known,

894
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:16.800
there are pieces that are coming out that are not known.

895
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.280
And so you know, we ask people to take a

896
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.360
look at Indiegogo and if you're so inclined to do so,

897
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.760
we'd appreciate the help. But again, if not, when the

898
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.519
film comes out, watch it. So whether you're whether it's

899
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.599
on a streaming platform and we ask you to rent it,

900
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:33.880
or whether we get it into a theater and you

901
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:35.800
got to buy your movie ticket to it, we want

902
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.880
people to do that as well, So get Medoug Jones

903
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:42.440
dot com or on social media. Our Instagram is get

904
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:46.920
me Doug Jones my company Cool Waters Prods on all platforms,

905
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.320
and then Doug on all platforms.

906
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:50.519
Is actor Doug Jones everywhere.

907
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.840
So certainly everyone out there who's watching this interview now

908
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:57.519
can find more about the film, learn more about the film,

909
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:01.639
support the film in some manner and appreciate your time

910
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:03.559
in talking to us today so much.

911
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:06.840
I just want to say thank you so much, Derek

912
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.119
for taking it time to put together this Get Me

913
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.719
Doug Jones documentary. We as fans, we appreciate it. And

914
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:16.320
thank you so much to Doug for taking time out

915
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.079
of his busy schedule to talk with a bunch of

916
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:23.320
trek ads. We really appreciate it.

917
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:28.239
And how many of those how many those Doug Hug

918
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.159
shirts are gonna get sold from this one?

919
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:32.119
I know.

920
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.480
We have an exclusive new Doug Hug shirt, so it's

921
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:39.559
different than the ones that we have at.

922
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:41.880
Conventions as an award for the campaign, right.

923
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.239
So there will be a new one I need, I'm

924
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:44.639
gonna get.

925
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.320
I need one because he does give the best hugs.

926
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:53.039
I can verify that. As they say, Derek, as they say,

927
00:50:53.119 --> 00:51:00.320
shut up and take my money.

928
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:03.039
Tell you real quick, Doug. This poster right behind me

929
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:06.280
above my head starts a Discovery poster. I went down

930
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:09.320
to see you at trek Long Island Trek talking was there.

931
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:11.360
My wife and I came over to your table. I

932
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.840
thought this poster had you sign it, and you came

933
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.760
out and gave me and my wife a giant there hug,

934
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:22.039
and it was great. It was phenomenal. It's such a warm, kind,

935
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.840
caring person. You really seem to enjoy the fans and

936
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:29.159
love the fans, and it just seeing someone like you

937
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.760
was just incredible. Thank you so much for being so awesome.

938
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:34.639
I wouldn't be sitting here today if it wasn't for

939
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:36.559
the fans. So I appreciate you more than you know.

940
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:40.840
Thank you. All right, Well that pretty much wraps it up.

941
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.159
Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it,

942
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.719
and we look forward to seeing get Me Doug live

943
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:47.679
long and process.

944
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.159
We shall thank you.

945
00:51:50.440 --> 00:52:02.079
Thank you so much. Good night, Well you.

946
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:03.719
Guys, that my goodness.

947
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:10.840
Yeah, yeah, we're not done yet though, guys. Oh no,

948
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:14.039
we're not done yet. April thirtieth, as you heard us

949
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.199
allude to at seven thirty, we're gonna have Tara Roslin

950
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:21.800
to bring uh mister Seru missus SARU's gonna be so

951
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.920
you guys want to check that out. April twenty fifth

952
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:28.719
and twenty six, Truck Talking will be at the Vermont

953
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:32.679
Sci Fi and Horror XO up at the Vermont Expost Center,

954
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.239
So please come and check that out. We're gonna have

955
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:39.760
a Star Trek charity auction of benefit you made Society,

956
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.519
which is where I got Laya from, So please come

957
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.480
and help these animals. They need your help. We also

958
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.960
have our fans shout outs tonight. We have our sci

959
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:51.199
fi birthdays and we're gonna squeeze in some Star Trek

960
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.159
news as much as we can. So without any further

961
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:56.679
a boot, let's roll right into our fans shout outs.

962
00:52:56.679 --> 00:53:03.039
What do you say that sounds awesome? Well, our very

963
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:05.239
first fan shout out this week goes out to top

964
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:12.440
fan kymiehot Doshaw from France. My French pronunciation is among

965
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.280
the worst that you can possibly imagine, but we really

966
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.000
appreciate Kaimi's support. And top fan status means that you

967
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:23.440
are actually commenting, talking to us on our social media's

968
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.039
and we just really appreciate that kind of interaction. It

969
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:29.000
just we can all shout into an empty room, but

970
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:30.960
it's nice to get that reflection back every once in

971
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:32.639
a while. So Kymie, thank you for being one of

972
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.639
our top fans. Speaking of top fans, I'd like to

973
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:39.320
also say hello this week to Sabine Cook. Sabine Cook,

974
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.199
who hails from Germany. She doesn't say where, but it's

975
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.760
big country and I'm sure wherever you are you're eating

976
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.360
delicious food and drinking amazing drink. Thank you, Sabine so

977
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:53.239
much for supporting our podcast. Been that globe over to

978
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.159
Australia and I want to say hello this week to

979
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.239
Gabby Peters, who hails from Briby Island and sends us

980
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.920
that livelong and prosper emoji that I'm positive is what

981
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:05.079
got Jim's attention. And last, but not least, I would

982
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:09.000
like to say hello to Arno van Vuren, who hails

983
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:12.360
from the Netherlands. That country between other countries, which is

984
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:17.760
what Netherlands means, right, So thank you Arnau for supporting

985
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.039
our podcast. V Let's bring it back to the US.

986
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:21.760
Who do you want to say?

987
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.559
I want to say hello and thank you to our

988
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:30.039
top fan, William Wadsworth, who is sending us a shout

989
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.800
out from Indianapolis, Indiana, So thank you for that, William.

990
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.920
Next Susan Ray from the beautiful state of Wyoming sending

991
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:46.239
us a livelong and prosper emoji. Then hello and thank

992
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:51.639
you to Dan Boyle who is watching us or listening

993
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.960
to us in Rhode Island, doesn't say where, but it's

994
00:54:56.280 --> 00:55:01.039
a small but beautiful state as well. And then last

995
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:04.360
but not least, Hello and thank you very much to

996
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:10.320
Donnie Brady, who is in West Virginia. So thank you

997
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.480
to all of you. Now I'm going to spin the

998
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:19.519
globe not that far but over to Charles. Oh, thank you.

999
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:24.840
The Let's start off with Missouri and welcoming Michael Cooper.

1000
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:32.679
Welcome Michael. Let's go over to Illinois where William Meadows

1001
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:39.119
hailed from Marion, Illinois and third on my list from

1002
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.119
oh just not far from me or somewhere close to

1003
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:48.920
me in Utah at Lee Cameric. Welcome Lee. What part

1004
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:54.480
of Utah? I love the southern part, especially Paul who's

1005
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:57.159
on your list going international.

1006
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.280
Thank you, Charles for a me up so defintely I

1007
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:02.039
appreciate that.

1008
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:02.360
Well.

1009
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.360
First of all, we do have a lot of fans

1010
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.079
who love science fiction who don't live in the United

1011
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:11.400
States and these days, good on your friends, That's all

1012
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:13.440
I can say. First of all, let's go over the

1013
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:17.079
United Kingdom and to ayr Shire in Scotland to our

1014
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.840
friend James Fairbaar, who's saying hello to us. So great

1015
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:22.679
to know you're out there. James, I hope you are

1016
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.159
finally getting out of some of that rather tempestuous weather.

1017
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:29.360
I've been hearing you but having lately in warmer climbs.

1018
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:33.360
We'll say hello to Luca Almeida in Portugal, so love

1019
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:36.360
knowing that there is a science fiction enthusiasm over there.

1020
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.400
Great to know that, Luca, thanks for saying hello. Yokohama, Japan.

1021
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.960
You re Bandai is saying hello, and I hope I'm

1022
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:48.199
pronouncing your name correctly, Yuri in Yokohama. I know for

1023
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:50.880
a fact that Japan is absolutely wall of wall with

1024
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:56.599
science fiction pans. So there you go, absolutely fantastic. And

1025
00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:02.039
Ivan di Anyel is saying hello to us from Columbia,

1026
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.440
SA flag proudly unfurled there, Ivan, Great to know that

1027
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.519
you are also sharing your enthusiasm for Star Trek so

1028
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:12.639
that we can always feel like we have things in

1029
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:16.480
common with folks from other places, which is very very

1030
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.920
needed these days. Passing the microphone over to uncle.

1031
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:23.039
Jim, Why, thank you so much, Paul. I'd like to

1032
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:26.119
say thank you and hello to TJ Atkins, who says

1033
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:30.559
I'm originally from Chicago but currently living in Los Angeles.

1034
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:33.719
Thank you for being a fan. TJ. I also want

1035
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:36.280
to say thank you and hello to Mary Easilee Smith

1036
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:40.400
who's listening to us in Mississippi. We also want to

1037
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:43.400
say hello and thank you to jesse Garcia who's in

1038
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:47.480
Long Island, and last but not least, Mark Roberts who's

1039
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:50.400
in Houston, Texas. If you guys would like to be

1040
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:52.400
featured on a fan shout out, please head over to

1041
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.920
face our Facebook page Truck Talking and beyond you'll see

1042
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:59.239
if livelong and prosperomoji. Pin to the front of the page,

1043
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:01.639
tell us where your family lots of emodis it gets

1044
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.400
my attention, and look very heart next to your name

1045
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:06.760
from yours truly so that you know you will be

1046
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:11.519
featured in a future fan shut out. And now, guys,

1047
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:14.880
we're going to move on to our poem, What do

1048
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:18.800
you say?

1049
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:25.280
You know me like no Wind? What you thought about

1050
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:25.800
the show?

1051
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:27.480
Then we try.

1052
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:33.679
Just share your opinions with all of our minions out

1053
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:36.719
there because they listen world wid.

1054
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:41.480
So tell us just what you think. Get together we

1055
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:44.199
will alter Canar and robilan a.

1056
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:49.159
I love that so much.

1057
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:53.320
I loved the song before the video of it that

1058
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:59.880
let's take it put together. Just Scott how wonderful. Yeah,

1059
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:06.400
a little perfection, all right, Eric, you want to take

1060
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:06.880
it away?

1061
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:09.000
I do.

1062
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:12.239
I love our poll this week we asked our Facebook followers,

1063
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:17.159
what is your favorite animated series episode. I think we're

1064
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.719
all fans of the animated series here on the show,

1065
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:22.559
and we just wanted to find out what you all thought.

1066
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:28.039
So hide for third place on our pool were the

1067
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:33.480
two episodes The Laurel Signal and the Infinite Vulcan. Both

1068
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:36.880
two great episodes. I'm a little surprised to see the

1069
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:39.039
Infinite Vulcan down at third place. I would have put

1070
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:41.480
it at second or like kind of closer to the top.

1071
00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:44.519
I think it's a well beloved episode. But the Lorelee

1072
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.960
Signal was kind of a nice one to scene thrown

1073
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.920
in there. You may or may not remember that one,

1074
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:54.320
but that's we're getting great pictures here from David. That's

1075
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.679
the one where there's a race of beautiful women who

1076
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:01.199
you know, kind of remain immortal Biston dealing life force

1077
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:03.119
of men. Classic.

1078
01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:03.679
I love it.

1079
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.400
So that's secret.

1080
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:10.159
I think I think we should have reality.

1081
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:14.519
Yes, that's our secret, our secret, Eric, that's what we do. Really.

1082
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:19.320
You know what those are called the those are energy vampires.

1083
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:29.039
Right, yeah, Robinson, Yeah.

1084
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:28.239
I can talk to you today.

1085
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:29.000
All right.

1086
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:32.039
Well, anyway, on on with the show. It was great

1087
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:33.840
to see Lorelei signal in there. I think that's like

1088
01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:36.039
the fourth episode of the first season, and it's just

1089
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.840
not one that comes up in every list, so that

1090
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:42.320
was fun to see. Okay, drumb All tie for second place.

1091
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:46.679
We have the Magics of Megas two and how Sharper

1092
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:51.239
Than a Serpent's Tooth? And I remembered the Magics of

1093
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:55.400
Megas two. That's the like Devil episode. I did not

1094
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:58.840
even remember which one was. How Sharper than a surpace too?

1095
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:02.119
Can somebody mind me? Does anybody remember what this episode

1096
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:02.519
is about?

1097
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:04.199
And it's been too long?

1098
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:04.920
Remember?

1099
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.719
Okay, I have something to do with the with the

1100
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:09.599
Mexican god Q.

1101
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.800
Yeah, that's what I That's what I thought. And it

1102
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:15.599
was just kind of interesting to see that right up

1103
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:17.360
here in second place. This is where I would have

1104
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.920
expected to see Infinite Vulcan personally, but that's just my opinion.

1105
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.599
And Bem is real popular, my god.

1106
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.800
I mean that's true. People do love them, and it

1107
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:29.239
was nice to see a new version of his race

1108
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:33.800
in lower decks. Right then we get to see his

1109
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:35.519
race or at least somebody else who could take their

1110
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:42.280
body apart like that. Okay, anyway, so drum roll, please

1111
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:48.000
favorite animated series episode from our fans? Uh was, of

1112
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:53.679
course Yesteryear, and that is the correct answer. It's my favorite,

1113
01:01:54.000 --> 01:02:00.239
it's often many people's favorites. It is heart wrenching, gut punching, amazing,

1114
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:04.599
like Spock episodes, Spock centered episode. If you haven't seen

1115
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:08.599
Yesteryear ever, you got some work to do. If you

1116
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:11.159
haven't seen it for a while, it's worth watching it again.

1117
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:13.719
It's still available on Paramount Plus as far as I know,

1118
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:18.519
So I think I saw it Yesteryear. Did you see it?

1119
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:20.000
Yes?

1120
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:25.280
I just watched it Yesteryear, So yeah, there you go.

1121
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:28.480
Third place, Lorelei signal if avulcan second place, Magic So

1122
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.840
of Vegas two and how sharper than a Service Tooth

1123
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:34.639
and the best episode ever of the animated series Yesteryear.

1124
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:37.599
Thanks for answering our polls, folks. We appreciate it. We

1125
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:38.719
like to hear what you have to say.

1126
01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:42.920
And I agree yesterday I think is is I must

1127
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:45.760
see for the animated series. We talked about it before,

1128
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:50.119
so please and our fans agreed, and we have one more.

1129
01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:52.920
We're not a pole question, just a fun one that

1130
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:55.480
I threw out there. We have fun with the last one,

1131
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:56.960
so I thought we would try this again.

1132
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:04.400
Yes, so this one requires a visual confirmation, so if

1133
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.920
you're only listening to the show, you may not totally

1134
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.119
get this one. But David has the most excellent picture

1135
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:14.039
on the screen right now that features a bunch of vulcans, vulcans,

1136
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:18.719
excuse me, klingons, a bunch of klingons and leather standing

1137
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:21.960
there looking totally awesome. And the question that we asked

1138
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:28.559
was name this nineties band, So here we go. Keith

1139
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:33.800
Ransom said the Gates of Stovecore. Yeah, Danny. Keith Johnson

1140
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:38.840
said the goch Dragons love that one. Ff Vankins said

1141
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:42.679
KCC Klingon Culture Club. I like that sort of the

1142
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:46.400
alternative bent, you know. To me, this looks like a

1143
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:48.400
metal band, but it could be an all band, you

1144
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:53.000
never know. Carrie Shapiro said the blood Wine quintent hmm,

1145
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:57.519
I like that classical band. Thomas Howard Smith said the

1146
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:06.559
Ridges get it? Yeah, yeah, all smegged. Klemy said Fleetwood gone,

1147
01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:15.239
that's pretty good. Bobby Mayfield said the Kaplaw players. That

1148
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:17.400
sounds more like a theater group to me. But yeah,

1149
01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:25.159
Jeff Nooser said, the Klingon Clan band right on. G

1150
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:30.920
Leonards said Jayden and the Family Crag. Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah,

1151
01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:34.239
this is Jaden's family on the planet. So Jayden and

1152
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:42.119
the Family Crag. Rick Wasserman said, the original Hamlets. You

1153
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:45.400
haven't heard kling On or we haven't heard Shakespeare until

1154
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.480
you've heard it in the original Klingon. So there you go.

1155
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:52.599
Jaden's Family as a band has many, many good names.

1156
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:55.679
I think out of these ones, definitely, the Gates of

1157
01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:00.440
Stovecore was among my favorite. That sounds like a local

1158
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.239
Portland metal band who do perform as Clayon's, which is

1159
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:05.159
simply called the Stove a course, So I think I

1160
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:09.119
have a you know, a visceral kind of connection to

1161
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:10.440
the to that name.

1162
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:13.639
Yeah. I think my favorite one would be the Original Hamlet.

1163
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:22.800
I kind of like Wood myself me too, that classic winner.

1164
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.280
Yeah, I like Jaden the Family Crag.

1165
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:31.000
That's a good one too. And uh, you know, these

1166
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:33.159
are fun to do, so I think I might throw

1167
01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:35.920
these out there on our Facebook page every once in

1168
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.119
a while, just for some fun, a fun little bit

1169
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:42.440
all right, So that's the name the band's segment and

1170
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:45.920
our tas. And now we're going to do our side

1171
01:05:46.000 --> 01:06:09.280
five birthdays. Guys. That was not a Clinton song, hi,

1172
01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:11.920
As we always start out our sci fi birthdays by

1173
01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:15.119
sally enough remembering those members who are no longer with

1174
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:19.480
our family, and for that returned to Eric Jim.

1175
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:22.159
This week we start out slightly outside of the Star

1176
01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:27.400
Trek family and we honor actor Max von Sidov born

1177
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:31.000
Karl Adolf von Siedov on April tenth, nineteen twenty nine

1178
01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:35.239
in Lund, Sweden. He appears as Ming the Merciless in

1179
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:39.719
the nineteen eighties movie Flash. He also portrayed doctor Lee

1180
01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:44.440
Keynes in Dune the Old One not the New One, obviously,

1181
01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:48.760
and is best known as the elderly frail father Maren

1182
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:54.079
in the Exorcist. But that's I mean, it doesn't stop there, right, Paul.

1183
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:56.360
There's like a million things that this guy has done

1184
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:58.920
that people would remember him for a legend.

1185
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.960
I mean, you know, go back to your earlymar bergman

1186
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:05.039
right the seventh Seal. I mean, so many different things,

1187
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:08.400
Hannah and her sisters with Woody Allen. I mean, he's

1188
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:11.519
just he's a legend. He's one of those just amazing

1189
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:14.920
legendary people. He even had a short, very memorable little

1190
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:18.599
part at the beginning of Star Wars The Force Awakens,

1191
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.679
all right, So I mean he's been in just about everything,

1192
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.599
so but just the gravitas that he brings to his

1193
01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:28.840
work is just like no one else's in, particularly if

1194
01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:33.119
you've never seen The Exorcist, Oh my god, he's amazing

1195
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:35.079
in that. Just stunning, stunning work.

1196
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:38.760
Yeah, so lost back in twenty twenty. Definitely a giant

1197
01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:42.320
of science fiction and other film genres. So thank you

1198
01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:45.719
so much for your contributions to everything that we love. Max.

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01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:50.360
Happy birthday as well this week to Lee Berger, the

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01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:54.360
actor who played the ex Caliban's recreation of Abraham Lincoln

1201
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.159
in the TOS third season episode The Savage Curtain. Great

1202
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:01.559
picture of him there. Lee was a World War Two

1203
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:05.480
vet in charge of entertainment services for soldiers serving in

1204
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:08.400
North Africa, so man, he was in the thicke of

1205
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:11.400
things there. But he's probably best known for his portrayal

1206
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:16.000
of Joseph Arlington Ainders on the television series Dynasty from

1207
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:19.880
nineteen eighty one through nineteen eighty three, which then led

1208
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:23.880
to his brief appearance on the rival soap opera Falcon

1209
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.399
Crest in nineteen eighty one as Justin Nash. But this

1210
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:32.920
guy has over two hundred television and other appearances, including

1211
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:35.239
shows that I love like The Monsters. He was on

1212
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:39.199
The Monsters, he was on The Adams Family. So great

1213
01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:42.920
actor Lee Berger, were honoring him today lost back in

1214
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:46.319
two thousand and seven. Happy birthday, Lee, Happy birthday as

1215
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:49.640
well to Charles Lewis Napier the actor and musician who

1216
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.159
played two great roles in Star Trek episodes which were

1217
01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:55.119
made more than twenty five years apart. These roles were

1218
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:57.640
Adam on the TOS third seeson episode The Way to

1219
01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:00.840
Eden and Denning on the Deep Space nine four season

1220
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:05.199
episode Little Green Men. Many don't know that Napier actually

1221
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:07.439
wrote all of the songs in The Way to Eden,

1222
01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:10.960
which of course he also performed. He wrote them with

1223
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:16.520
Craig Robertson and Arthur Heinemann. Throughout the seventies and eighty eighties.

1224
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.800
You probably recognize his face as being a guy who

1225
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:24.600
played edgy military types and menacing bad guys, including Murdoch,

1226
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:28.680
the intellig intelligence officer from Rambo and Rambo First Blood

1227
01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:32.119
Part two. But then he was all over the place.

1228
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:34.279
I mean he was in Awesome Powers and the Blues

1229
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:37.760
Brothers and Silence of the Lambs. He also lent his

1230
01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:42.600
voice talents to several animated series like Johnny Quest and

1231
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:46.239
Rugrats and a whole host of others. You should go

1232
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:49.520
check out his IMDb page. It's just thick with contributions.

1233
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:54.319
So really, what a great talent Charles Lewis Napier could sing,

1234
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:57.359
could act, and we do miss you lost back in

1235
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:02.279
twenty eleven. Happy Birthday, Charles. Happy birthday to Paul Sorvino,

1236
01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:05.560
the Italian American actor who played Nikolai Rosenko in the

1237
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:11.840
Next Generation seven season episode Homeward. Although originally he was

1238
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:14.520
aspiring to be an opera singer, he built a solid

1239
01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:18.640
career in films from the nineteen seventies onward. He's probably

1240
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:21.399
best known for his role as Paul Cicero in the

1241
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.319
nineteen ninety gangster film drama Goodfellas, but he has over

1242
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:30.000
one hundred theatrical movies and over thirty TV movies that

1243
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.920
he's been in throughout his career. One that I think

1244
01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:36.359
is underappreciated and particularly good is his portrayal of Henry

1245
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.439
Kissinger in the movie Nixon from nineteen ninety five. If

1246
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:41.680
you haven't seen that movie, should go check that out.

1247
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:47.159
But two great kind of philanthropic things about him. He

1248
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:50.199
had severe asthma, and he worked really hard on mastering

1249
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:52.840
breathing techniques to help him get through and be a

1250
01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:55.840
great actor even with that condition. And he actually wrote

1251
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:58.800
a best selling book entitled How to Become a Former

1252
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:03.640
Asthmatic and started the Sorvino Asthma Foundation based in New

1253
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:07.039
York City. Not only that, but he loved dogs, so

1254
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:13.239
he founded the dog Fella's Dog Adoption Organization in February

1255
01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:15.520
of two thousand and two with his family. It's based

1256
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:19.159
in Manhattan and in Pennsylvania. So great to see awesome

1257
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:23.439
things living beyond Paul's actual life. His contributions were just

1258
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:25.479
so giant. We lost him back in twenty twenty two.

1259
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:30.239
Happy Birthday, Paul Sorvino. Happy birthday to Joseph Ruskin, the

1260
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:33.239
American actor who appeared in four of the first five

1261
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:38.399
live action Star Trek television series and in Star Trek Insurrection, Okay,

1262
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:41.800
Big Breath in Tos. He played Gult in The Gamesters

1263
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.479
of Triskellian on DS nine He played the klingon Tu

1264
01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:47.239
Mec in two episodes, The House of Quark and Looking

1265
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:50.319
for Parmak in All the Wrong Places. In between these episodes,

1266
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:53.680
he played a Cardassian informant on the episode Improbable Cause.

1267
01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.920
He was cast as a Sona officer in Star Trek Insurrection,

1268
01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.880
and appeared in Star Trek Voyager in the episode Gravity,

1269
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.199
in which he played a Vulcan master. His final Star

1270
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.680
Trek appearance was in Star Trek Enterprise as a Subaban

1271
01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:10.960
doctor in the pilot episode Broken Bow Wow. He also

1272
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.800
contributed to a couple of Star Trek video games. Along

1273
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:17.079
the Way. Had a long and distinguished career that started

1274
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:19.640
as early as nineteen fifty nine, appearing in lots of

1275
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:24.560
television and movies along the Way. One interesting thing was

1276
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.239
that he actually had a reoccurring role as an Alliance

1277
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:33.279
member named Elaine Christoph in jj Abrams series Alias, so

1278
01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:35.520
if you're familiar with Alias, you may have also seen

1279
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:39.880
him there. Happy Birthday to Joseph Ruskin. Happy birthday to

1280
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:43.119
Arlene Martel, the actress who played to Pring the original

1281
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:47.479
in the TOS second season episode a Bouk Time. She

1282
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:50.760
was among the original candidates for the role of doctor

1283
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:53.880
Elizabeth Dinner for the second Star Trek pilot where no

1284
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:57.520
man has gone before, but she couldn't handle the contacts.

1285
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:01.119
Remember the whole contact situation. Yeah, her eyes were very sensitive,

1286
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:03.600
so they had to move on to Sally Kellerman. Two

1287
01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:06.000
years later, they tried to bring her back in the

1288
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:09.079
role of Sylvia for Cat's Paw, and again she didn't

1289
01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:12.800
get that one because the production staff really had her

1290
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:16.359
slated as the perfect to bring for a time, so

1291
01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:19.000
they didn't feel like they could also cast her in

1292
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:22.279
the Cat's Paw role. Forty years after her role on

1293
01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:25.000
Star Trek, she appeared as the Vulcan Priesess in the

1294
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:28.520
fan film Star Trek of Gods and Men, which of

1295
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:32.199
course was produced by a friend of the show, Tim Russ.

1296
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:34.520
If you haven't seen that fan film, you should probably

1297
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.880
see it. It's got her in it, it's got Walter Kanagan,

1298
01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:40.880
it's got a whole bunch of Star Trek Royalty in it.

1299
01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:44.840
And in addition to her Maria guest star roles on television,

1300
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:47.520
she was an animal rights activist as well, working with

1301
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:51.000
Last Chance for Animals to prevent the selling of dogs

1302
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:53.720
and cats for medical research. She felt very passionate about

1303
01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:56.880
this and appeared in an HBO documentary about it. So

1304
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:01.880
Arlene Martel complex beautiful, What a great actress. Happy birthday

1305
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:05.399
to Arlene Martel lost back in twenty fourteen, Happy Birthday

1306
01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:08.279
to Jay Robinson, the American character actor who appeared as

1307
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:12.920
Troy and Ambassador Hetree in the Coos third season episode

1308
01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:16.199
Alone of Troyus. He of course, is best known for

1309
01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:19.479
his role as Caligula in the nineteen fifty three biblical

1310
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:22.880
epic of the Robe and in its sequel, Demetrius and

1311
01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:27.199
the Gladiators. He was in the historical drama The Virgin Queen,

1312
01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:31.039
which is another fantastic movie. He did have some kind

1313
01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:34.079
of issues along the way with drugs and jail and

1314
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:36.800
that sort of thing. Then his career sort of made

1315
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:39.680
a comeback at the end, and he appeared in several movies,

1316
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:43.399
particularly a bunch of Woody Allen movies, and then eventually

1317
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:47.000
appeared in Francis Ford Coppola's nineteen ninety two blockbuster Bram

1318
01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:52.560
Stoker's Dracula. So great actor. Glad that he was able

1319
01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:54.359
to kind of bring it back and give us not

1320
01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:56.880
only contributions early in life, but later on. Thank you,

1321
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.720
Jay Robinson, for everything you did. First, Star Trek can

1322
01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:03.600
happy birthday. Happy birthday to Robert Walker Junior, the actor

1323
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:07.119
who played Charlie Evans in the episode Charlie X from

1324
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:10.960
the first season. He was approached in ninety seven to

1325
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:13.000
come back in Deep Space nine, but he was not

1326
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.680
interested in renewing his acting career at that time, so

1327
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.800
he did not come back into Star Trek. But he

1328
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:21.840
Starfield started a handful of made for TV movies over

1329
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:26.000
the years and stayed in active. Stayed active for a

1330
01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:29.680
number of years, making television guest appearances here and there,

1331
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:32.359
so you can go check out everything that he did

1332
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:35.920
post Charlie X. Thank Robert Walker Junior for a great

1333
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:39.439
episode and for being a great contribution to Star Trek.

1334
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:41.880
And last, but not least, we say happy birthday to

1335
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:45.920
Michael George and Sarah Yes that one. The Lebanese American

1336
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.479
actor best known to Star Trek fans is playing Kang

1337
01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:51.880
in the TS third season episode Day the Dove, later

1338
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:55.279
in DS nine second season episode Blood Oath and Voyager's

1339
01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:59.520
third season episode Flashback. He later appeared as Jay All

1340
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:03.600
in the DS nine four season episode The Muse as well.

1341
01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:06.960
What a story man this guy was. Born to a

1342
01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:11.880
Lebanese family in a small village. Eventually emigrated with his

1343
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.399
family to the US when he was two years old.

1344
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:18.880
Many people know, or maybe some don't know, that he

1345
01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:22.039
was married to I Dream of Genie actress Barbara Eden

1346
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.840
from nineteen fifty eight through nineteen seventy four, so they

1347
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:28.159
were sort of a power couple of that time. He

1348
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:31.520
was often cast in roles because of his darker complexion

1349
01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:33.920
as a Native American, so he shows up in a

1350
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:37.439
lot of Westerns and that kind of stuff throughout his career,

1351
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:42.079
including not a Western, but another movie that he starred

1352
01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:46.119
with James Dewan in actually a nineteen sixty four episode

1353
01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:48.880
of Voyage to the Bottom of Sea. Sorry, not a movie,

1354
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:51.960
but a television performance. I think that's kind of cool

1355
01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.359
that they crossed over in another way. He also worked

1356
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:58.960
with Ricardo Montabon in three movies. But I love that

1357
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.079
he later in his life, I've became the voice of

1358
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:05.359
DC Comics character mister Freeze on various episodes of the

1359
01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:09.239
Batman animated television series from ninety two to two thousand

1360
01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:11.960
and nine. What a great television series. So go check

1361
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:15.000
out IMDb if you haven't looked up Michael Ansara for

1362
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.319
a long time. It is and ripe with all kinds

1363
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:21.600
of fun stuff. Lots of remembrances this week, guys, but

1364
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.000
I felt it important to take the time to remember

1365
01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:26.920
these people properly. So thank you so much for waiting,

1366
01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.199
and I'm going to go ahead and pass this flaming

1367
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:30.279
birthday candle.

1368
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:30.439
Over to me.

1369
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:35.840
All right, thank you, Eric. My first happy Birthday goes

1370
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:41.000
out to Hayley Joel Osmond. He voiced Lieutenant J. G.

1371
01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:46.399
O'Connor in the Lower Decks first season episode Moist Vessel.

1372
01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:50.840
He gained fame as a child actor. He played the

1373
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:55.680
titular character Son in Forrest Gump, and for his portrayal

1374
01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:59.039
of Cole Sear, a psychic child in The Sixth Sense,

1375
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:03.359
won the Saturn Award for Best Performance by a Younger

1376
01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:07.760
Actor in that movie. I was just watching him in

1377
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:13.199
AI Artificial Intelligence. He's spectacular in that and as a

1378
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.800
grown up he's been in things most recently or what

1379
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:19.680
I've seen him in. He was tofer in What we

1380
01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:24.479
do in the Shadow is the familiar that accidentally gets

1381
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.439
I think Gierma accidentally kills him and then he gets

1382
01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:31.520
turned into a zombie. But He's hilarious in that anyway,

1383
01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:36.319
So happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to William Irwin.

1384
01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:42.640
He's an American actor, clown and comedian who portrayed sou

1385
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:47.439
Call in Discovery third season episode sou Call and That

1386
01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:51.000
Hope Is You? Part Two in the four season episode

1387
01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:55.399
Kobyashi Maru and if You've ever seen him Dance, He's

1388
01:18:55.439 --> 01:19:01.439
an excellent dancer and fun fact. On a totally weird

1389
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:06.560
side note, he was mister Noodle's on sy Same Street,

1390
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:11.640
so there you go. Next, Happy birthday to Alicia Coppola.

1391
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:16.439
She played Lieutenant Staddie in The Star Trek Voyager first

1392
01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:24.359
season episode Caretaker. Next, Happy birthday to Seba Homayun, who

1393
01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:28.520
voiced ensign Ali in the Lower Decks fifth season episode

1394
01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:34.520
of Gods and Angles and the New Next Generation. She

1395
01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:41.399
was born in Montreal, Canada, to Iranian parents. Next, Happy

1396
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:45.720
birthday to William Sadler. He played Luther Sloan in the

1397
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:51.920
DS nine sixth and seventh season episode's Inquisition inter Arma

1398
01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:58.279
Enom Silent leg Sorry I can't ledges and if sorry,

1399
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:03.319
it's late Extreme Measures. He was born in Buffalo, Buffalo,

1400
01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:08.640
New York, and started acting in high school. And birthday

1401
01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:15.600
to Humberly Gonzalez, the actress who played mel in Star

1402
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:19.640
Trek Section thirty one. She was born in Venezuela and

1403
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:22.720
moved to Aruba with her family when she was twelve

1404
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:27.199
and to Canada when she was fifteen. She graduated from

1405
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:32.720
the National Theater School of Canada in twenty fifteen. And

1406
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:36.640
last but not least, Happy birthday to Faith Coally Sally,

1407
01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:41.600
the actress who played Serena Douglas in the DS nine,

1408
01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:47.279
sixth and seventh season episodes Stisted God, It Can't Talk Tonight,

1409
01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:53.640
Statistical Probabilities, and Chrysalis. So happy birthday to you, one

1410
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:57.920
of my favorite characters in DAS nine, albeit brief anyway,

1411
01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:01.920
passing that flaming birthday Campbell onto Paul.

1412
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:06.479
Thank v very kind of you. Well, let's move on

1413
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:10.479
with our birthdays and say Happy birthday to Darius Rose,

1414
01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:14.640
performing under the stage name Jackie Cooks, is an actor

1415
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:18.720
and professional drag queen who played Talon Uxaria in the

1416
01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:23.640
stark Leet Academy first season episode series Acclamation Mill. So

1417
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:28.319
Happy birthday, Darius Rose aka Jackie Cox. Happy birthday to

1418
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:34.439
the on a massively popular trajectory, El Fanning from Conyer's Georgia,

1419
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:36.039
younger sister of Dakota Fanning.

1420
01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:38.199
She plays the.

1421
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:43.199
Dual roles of two count Them, two synthetic androids, both

1422
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:46.600
THEA and Tessa and Predator bad Lands. And if you

1423
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:49.039
have not checked that movie out yet, you really should.

1424
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:52.159
But this is an actress who's really going places. She

1425
01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.680
was just in sentimental value this year. I got an

1426
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:58.279
Academy Award nomination for her work in that and has

1427
01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:00.000
done a ton.

1428
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:03.960
Of great things. She is just getting started.

1429
01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:06.239
She's got a huge amount of talent and you're going

1430
01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:09.159
to be seeing a lot of el Fanning's work in

1431
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.359
the years to come. I guarantee you Happy birthday to

1432
01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:19.520
English actress and Star Wars luminary Daisy Ridley, who rose

1433
01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:22.439
to prominence for her role as Ray in the Star

1434
01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:26.720
Wars sequel trilogy from twenty fifteen to twenty nineteen. Following

1435
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:29.199
those films, she's appeared in the mystery film Murder on

1436
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:34.000
the Orient Express and played Ophele in the romantic drama Ophelia.

1437
01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:36.800
I don't think we're done with Ray yet. Somehow, I

1438
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:39.039
would not be at all surprised to hear that there

1439
01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:44.119
is another appearance for her in the Star Wars universe.

1440
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:45.960
We shall wait and see, but I think she did

1441
01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.000
a tremendous job, really brought a lot to the role

1442
01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:53.239
and a really fine actress. Happy birthday to Tricia Helfer,

1443
01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:56.399
who we will always be fond of from her work

1444
01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:02.000
in the Ronald Deep War reimagining a Battlestar Galactica galacticer

1445
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:03.479
Little Star Galactica.

1446
01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:07.880
You folks down there, seth, I thought that was your

1447
01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:09.119
British accent coming through.

1448
01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:15.000
Actually them Sidons needs a little rust help with her.

1449
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:17.039
Final star.

1450
01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:24.720
Somebody slap me, okay, But she was great, of course,

1451
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:28.239
and she played number six on the reimagined Battlestar Galactica.

1452
01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:29.760
But that's one of those things where she said, just

1453
01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:30.439
playing one.

1454
01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:33.159
Version of a character's playing numerous character roles of that,

1455
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:37.560
and rather deftly. And there's a lot of subtlety, So

1456
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:43.239
don't There's a very unfortunate photograph there, prominently slapped into

1457
01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:45.319
the middle there. I really hoping we can avoid the

1458
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:50.199
cheesecake humiliation stuff. It's really just galling. I mean, what

1459
01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:52.560
are we like, are we penthouse for mirr or what

1460
01:23:52.840 --> 01:23:53.079
I mean?

1461
01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:54.119
Are we adults or what?

1462
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:55.039
Anyhow?

1463
01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:58.800
There, I got that off my chest.

1464
01:23:57.439 --> 01:23:58.720
Bubbling there for a while.

1465
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.920
Yeah, a fine actress who should be appreciated for our

1466
01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:05.560
talents on screen, not those other talents. So any outro

1467
01:24:05.640 --> 01:24:08.399
jail for We see you, we speak your name, and

1468
01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:12.279
we appreciate your work. Happy birthday to Jennifer Morrison, who

1469
01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:15.399
played Wenona Kirk in the jj Abrams Star Trek of

1470
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:18.960
two thousand and nine. We also known as playing Emma

1471
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:22.760
Swan in Once Upon a Time and done a ton

1472
01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:25.079
of other good things as well, but we certainly remember

1473
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:28.079
her as being part of the Kirk family in the

1474
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:31.560
Star Trek aspects there if you will. Happy birthday to

1475
01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:36.000
April Tatro. Contortionists and actress. We were talking about a

1476
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:39.520
lot of contortionists today with Doug Jones right, who appeared

1477
01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:42.359
in the role of Isis in her non feline human

1478
01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:45.359
form and a big favorite of mine. Second season original

1479
01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:51.920
series episode Assignment Earth really really great fun episode. I'm

1480
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:54.439
a big fan. I just love Assignment Earth. I think

1481
01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:57.119
it's great. So happy birthday to you, April Tatro. Hope

1482
01:24:57.159 --> 01:25:00.439
you had a great birthday. Got and geek out Okay,

1483
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:05.479
Paul's geek out alert claxon red light flashing, because I

1484
01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:10.960
would just love this guy, the Great Ron Pearlman. Okay, yes,

1485
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:13.399
he was in the Star Trek Firmament, though I squinted

1486
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:15.439
and try not to see it when he played Riebn

1487
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:21.479
Viceroy and Star Trek Nemesis. BA has done so so

1488
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:25.640
much more. He was the lead role of Clay Morrow

1489
01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:30.279
on the phenomenal FX television series Sons of Anarchy, a

1490
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:34.159
sopranos on motorcycles if he's not checked it out, where

1491
01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:37.840
he just dominated for many many seasons on that show.

1492
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:44.520
He began getting people's attention under a ton of makeup,

1493
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:47.439
and his Immy nominated role as Vincent on the Cult

1494
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:52.159
TV series Beauty and the Beast. Anybody here remember that then, Hamilton.

1495
01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:54.039
We watched it every single week.

1496
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:57.039
It loved it.

1497
01:25:56.880 --> 01:25:59.439
It was a breakout show, right, it really was. It

1498
01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:01.800
was just like, you know, could easily have been consigned

1499
01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:06.279
to the you know, trash heap that shows that didn't

1500
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:09.039
only have one season, like you know, Logan's Run TV show,

1501
01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:11.640
But this show. Their charisma and the fact that he

1502
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:17.479
was able to communicate so much romantic heat frankly through

1503
01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.000
all that makeup with Linda Hamilton pretty impressive.

1504
01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:21.640
I mean, it was the it was the show that

1505
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.880
made me understand the Beauty and the Beast story, which

1506
01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:27.800
I didn't like get at first, and then like to

1507
01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:32.039
see it portrayed throughout that show. Yeah, amazing, amazing.

1508
01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:35.239
But Ron Prowin's and I'm a big fan of his

1509
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:37.720
social media presence because he has no filter at all,

1510
01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:40.600
and when somebody's being a dingus, he just calls.

1511
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:42.359
Him out on this kind of guy.

1512
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:44.600
Yeah, absolutely, like.

1513
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.359
You you're a dingers and I'm gonna tell you why.

1514
01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:49.720
I've You're ruining everyone's line.

1515
01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:50.800
I got to check him out.

1516
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:54.800
He's great, He's I would I would just soul just

1517
01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:56.479
sit down and have a few beers with this guy.

1518
01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:59.319
I just think he's great. He's so talented. He's just

1519
01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:01.800
done so many great things, I mean and talk about.

1520
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:03.479
I mean, you know how many times he work with

1521
01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:08.760
Doug Jones, because you know another frequent Guillermo del Toro collaborator,

1522
01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:11.880
this is hell Boy himself. There have been several recent

1523
01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:15.560
pretenders to the throne of hell Boy in recent abortive

1524
01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:19.079
remakes and reimaginings of hell Boy, none of which Geramo

1525
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.079
has been involved in, and none of which had the

1526
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:25.479
good sense to cast Ron Peerlman and those are best

1527
01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:29.039
forgotten because Ron Perlman is hell boy, right, and he

1528
01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:33.159
showed up in lots of other pictures with Girmos Well.

1529
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:36.880
He had a brief funny role in Pacific Rim. He

1530
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:40.159
was in one of the Aliens films, Early on the

1531
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:44.439
one with Anona Rider and Sigrattey Waiver Alien something I

1532
01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:49.079
can't it's escaping me, which is terrible. But this guy's

1533
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:51.920
done so many great pictures. He's a genre legend, and

1534
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:54.840
not just that, not in just a genre legend. He's

1535
01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:58.520
a He's just an acting legend because he's just right

1536
01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:02.239
there in your face. He just does not hold back.

1537
01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:06.760
He brings it. I just think he's a phenomenally talented individual,

1538
01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:12.000
really really has all the goods, and I just love

1539
01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:15.279
watching him work. He's just a force of nature, this guy.

1540
01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:19.279
I hope other people are Ron Perlman fans, but if

1541
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:22.880
you're not, you should really check out his work. Anybody

1542
01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:26.079
like Ron Prolman or our guest Doug Jones, who can

1543
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:28.920
convey emotion when you're wearing so many makeup appliances on

1544
01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:33.119
your head, that is a gift, right, That's the sign

1545
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:35.560
of a real potent human being. So I don't know,

1546
01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:37.960
I just love watching your work. Ron Promlin, You're a legend.

1547
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:41.279
Don't shut up, don't filter yourself, don't hold back.

1548
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:43.640
Baby, we love you on this show.

1549
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:46.840
So, Ron Prolman, that was my geek out moment. I

1550
01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:49.720
am now humbly going to retire into my cloistered, shadowy

1551
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:51.800
apartment and pass things over it.

1552
01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:54.119
I don't live an apartment. Who am I getting? But

1553
01:28:54.239 --> 01:28:55.079
just try to be funny.

1554
01:28:55.640 --> 01:28:59.039
I know there's lots of other pronouncables on their way from.

1555
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:01.640
Uncle Jim, Uncle Jim, what do you got? I thank

1556
01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:04.359
you so much, Paul, I've got some pretty good ones.

1557
01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:06.880
I do have a kling on our two. I know

1558
01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:11.760
that surprises you. You're shocked, But so we're gonna start

1559
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:16.479
off with our first birthday. Michelle Scarabelli she portrayed Lieutenant

1560
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.079
Junior Grade Jenneitis Sora on There She Is on the

1561
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:23.199
Screen and the TNG four season episode in Theory. She

1562
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:29.359
was Data's girlfriend briefly after Tasha, but I think she

1563
01:29:29.439 --> 01:29:33.119
was best known as playing Susan Francisco in the television

1564
01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:36.880
series Alienation and God, I love that show. If you

1565
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:39.520
guys have not watched Alienation, If you haven't seen it

1566
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:42.159
in a while, go and check it out. It was

1567
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:52.000
canceled way prematurely because not only did they get one, two, three, four, five,

1568
01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:56.760
that's right, five made for TV movies after the cancelation.

1569
01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:59.760
That tells me Fox made a big mistake when they

1570
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:05.239
can sold Alienation. So happy birthday, Michelle Scarabelly. We also

1571
01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:08.600
want to say Happy birthday, Eric Avari. Who is he?

1572
01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:08.840
There?

1573
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:11.720
He is on the screen, right there. He appeared as

1574
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:16.560
by Jet and the TNG fifth season episode Unification Part one.

1575
01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:21.920
He's the guy that wouldn't give Captain Picard a cloak

1576
01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:25.039
ship or let him talk to Gallon. You guys remember him.

1577
01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:28.600
It was a bit of a dink, but eventually he

1578
01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:32.039
folded to Picard and he got his ship. But wait,

1579
01:30:32.479 --> 01:30:36.239
there's more. He also played Yakara and VS. Nine's third

1580
01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:40.520
season episode Destiny. He played jump In in enterprise first

1581
01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:43.920
season episode Terra Nova, but he's best known as playing

1582
01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:51.439
Kustin and Stargate SG one. Happy birthday, Eric Avari, and

1583
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:55.600
last on my list, I think that Paul might actually

1584
01:30:55.600 --> 01:31:01.199
have an action figure of hers. If we're lucky, we

1585
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:05.720
want to say top flat an Happy birthday, Kathy Sheeriss.

1586
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:09.079
She's the Canadian actress who played val Chris and Star

1587
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:13.640
Trek three the Search First Spot. Now I know Noceelle

1588
01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:15.720
just put out an action figure for her.

1589
01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:19.439
Do you have that, Paul Well, I have still yet

1590
01:31:19.479 --> 01:31:22.560
to see an actual Nascell action figure other than at

1591
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:27.000
a con On display in the form of a prototype.

1592
01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:29.640
But I don't think they emit the street yet. They

1593
01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:33.399
were still waiting patiently, so you know, like we're waiting

1594
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:35.319
for Brian Wolgwis to come on the show.

1595
01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:39.399
But neither things seem to be happening anytime soon. I've

1596
01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:40.600
seen dates fluctuating.

1597
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:42.520
I mean, I like to live in hope that they

1598
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:46.800
that all of these teased figures do someday actually manifest themselves.

1599
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:47.560
But and the.

1600
01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:50.399
Valcus one looks great, love to see it. It comes to

1601
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:52.640
the Big Genesis torpedo and that is not a double

1602
01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:58.159
untonder but it But you know, I'm just saying, but

1603
01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:01.600
let's get it out here, okay, my goodness, gracious me.

1604
01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:05.039
I mean someone that you would have one and you

1605
01:32:05.039 --> 01:32:08.399
could hold it right up to the screen. But you know,

1606
01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:11.039
all I can hold up is my Amphibian man tonight.

1607
01:32:11.119 --> 01:32:13.199
That's that's all I got. In honor of Doug Jones.

1608
01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:16.279
That's all I have, Handy, But yeah they have they

1609
01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:20.520
have not been released, you know, and until they're released,

1610
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:23.159
you know, I live in Ope like the rest of fandom,

1611
01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:27.399
you know, So this is one of the reasons, you know,

1612
01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:28.479
I hope for the best.

1613
01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:32.239
But it's especially in the.

1614
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:33.920
Climate economically we live in right now, with things like

1615
01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:37.720
tariffs and production overseas, and you know, it's it's a

1616
01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:41.640
tough business. So I would love to get Brian on

1617
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:43.600
the show and talk to him about it and you know,

1618
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:45.000
get us get him fired up.

1619
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:45.680
So we'll see.

1620
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:49.279
But still not figgies, No figgies yet. I'm still waiting, Jim.

1621
01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:53.319
I'm gonna have to do a special on boxing show.

1622
01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:56.439
When they do finally come out, we'll have to do

1623
01:32:56.479 --> 01:32:59.960
something special. All right, guys, that wraps up our side

1624
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.159
five birthdays. I hope you had a good time. I

1625
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:06.439
hope you enjoyed our vast array. Like Derek said, we

1626
01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:10.479
stepped outside of Star Trek, which is great, and now

1627
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.359
we're gonna do some Star Trek news for you.

1628
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:30.760
Guys.

1629
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:36.760
Say that's that's a much better instro than.

1630
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:40.640
Oh god, I couldn't agree more.

1631
01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:44.039
Who made that? Is that? A David production. Who made that?

1632
01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:45.880
No, I made that one.

1633
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:47.479
That's actually splendid.

1634
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:50.680
Very the new videos are great, thank you.

1635
01:33:51.119 --> 01:33:53.960
Yeah, it was. It was fun kind of finding uh,

1636
01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:57.159
not only royalty free music that we could dely use,

1637
01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:02.960
but asking Jim to send me little video clips. And

1638
01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:06.000
I know David loves his, but I think it's very introspective.

1639
01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:08.760
He looks like he's thinking very hard about Edith Keeler.

1640
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:11.000
So I just think it's perfect. I don't know, and.

1641
01:34:11.039 --> 01:34:15.199
I'm looking I'm looking down. I don't know what I'm

1642
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:16.039
looking at the IV.

1643
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:18.640
I think I think I think that was the moment.

1644
01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:21.600
Do you remember a few shows ago where Jim said

1645
01:34:21.600 --> 01:34:26.640
something about the shirt you were wearing and he just,

1646
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.600
you know, I had the clips I had. Man, that's funny.

1647
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:33.880
I was gonna say I dropped my donut, but you know, I.

1648
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:36.239
Don't know.

1649
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:42.159
That that's good.

1650
01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:46.119
You know, if you guys are listening to the podcast

1651
01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:48.359
right now and you'd love to see all these awesome

1652
01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.680
videos that David puts together that we refer to, all

1653
01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:53.720
I have to do is head over to our Facebook page,

1654
01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:56.880
Chuck Talk and and beyond, and for only ninety nine cents,

1655
01:34:57.199 --> 01:35:02.079
you can become a subscriber and you get access to

1656
01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:06.439
the video version of this podcast, which helps us promote

1657
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:09.039
and keep it on the air. So please head over

1658
01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:12.880
to face our Facebook page Truck Talking and Beyond and

1659
01:35:13.319 --> 01:35:16.000
do that. We'd appreciate it. All right, Eric, I think

1660
01:35:16.039 --> 01:35:18.239
you've got the first story as usual.

1661
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.000
Yeah, I'm excited to finally get to the story. I

1662
01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:22.600
think it was on the docket for last week and

1663
01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:25.239
we just couldn't quite get to it. This, of course,

1664
01:35:25.319 --> 01:35:28.760
is our favorite segment. Shatner says, well, but this time

1665
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:31.279
I'm totally he's locked in.

1666
01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:31.560
Man.

1667
01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:38.960
William Shatner bemoans Starfleet Academy's end and mocks the woke backlash.

1668
01:35:39.399 --> 01:35:42.119
William Shatner wishes the latest Star Trek show had been

1669
01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:45.199
given the chance to live long and prosper I thank

1670
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:47.520
you all the rest of the Trek sperts, by the way,

1671
01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:49.199
for muting during the segment.

1672
01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:49.920
That would be great.

1673
01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:52.800
The Star Trek actor ninety five took to X to

1674
01:35:52.840 --> 01:35:56.359
bemone news that sci fi franchisees newest series, Star Trek,

1675
01:35:56.439 --> 01:36:01.079
Starfleet Academy, will end after its upcoming second season. It

1676
01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:03.479
was sorrow that I hear the cancelation of the new

1677
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:06.319
Star Trek series, he wrote. In a follow up post,

1678
01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:09.720
Shatner mocked critics who celebrated the show's cancelation because they

1679
01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:13.119
claimed it was woke. He argued that the original Star Trek,

1680
01:36:13.359 --> 01:36:17.319
which famously featured an interracial kiss between Shattner's character Captain

1681
01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:21.239
Kirk and Mishelle Nichols Uhura in a nineteen sixty eight episode,

1682
01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:26.119
would be considered woke today. He said, during the first

1683
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:29.479
airing of my Star Trek series, where a kiss was objectionable,

1684
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:33.319
many Southern stations pulled the episode and condemned the show.

1685
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:38.920
Using today's vernacular, it would absolutely be called woke dei

1686
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:42.159
crap because it went against the norms of society for

1687
01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:42.760
its time.

1688
01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:44.319
Not a lot.

1689
01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:48.319
Seems to have changed. Shatner also reflected that Star Trek

1690
01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:51.159
the Next Generation, which is now a widely beloved follow

1691
01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:55.600
up to the original Star Trek receives quote, received tons

1692
01:36:55.600 --> 01:36:58.000
of hate from fans when it first came out, concluding

1693
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:02.680
Star Trek is different for everyone. Holly Hunter starred in

1694
01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:06.239
Star Trek Starfleet Academy, which premiered in January and centered

1695
01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:09.760
on a class of Starfleet cadets. Some on social media

1696
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:14.920
labeled the show woke and mocked its diverse casting and storylines,

1697
01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:19.039
which included the introduction of the first openly gay Klingon character.

1698
01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:23.000
Even a member of the Trump administration weighed in. In January,

1699
01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:27.079
President Donald Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy, Stephen Millers,

1700
01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:30.279
shared a clip from the show originally posted by an

1701
01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:34.560
account called end Wokeness, and called on Paramount to save

1702
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:39.880
Star Trek by giving Shatner total creative control. It's just

1703
01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:43.079
such a great story. In a segment on the View

1704
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:46.640
in January, Woope Goldberg, who played Guynan on Star Trek

1705
01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:51.399
the Next Generation, she mocked the criticism. She said this

1706
01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:53.479
was a show that was created with the idea that

1707
01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:56.279
people from other planets would come and we would all

1708
01:37:56.319 --> 01:38:00.399
find a way to exist together. She also said this

1709
01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:04.079
also asking why Miller was concentrating on a television show

1710
01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:07.960
instead of more pressing issues. Good question among critics. The

1711
01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:11.039
reception to Star Trek Starfleet Academy. It was mostly positive,

1712
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:14.079
with the show receiving an eighty seven percent approval rating

1713
01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:18.279
on Rotten Tomatoes. Star Trek Starfleet Academy is still set

1714
01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:21.399
to aras second season, which was ordered even before season

1715
01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:27.479
one premiered. Thank you, William Shatner for seeing the Star

1716
01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:30.000
Trek fans and like for seeing real Star Trek and

1717
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:35.279
for seeing what isn't real Star Trek, which is the

1718
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:38.880
bots who are review bombing this show. So I think

1719
01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:41.319
that the biggest lump in our throats right now, I

1720
01:38:41.319 --> 01:38:43.239
think is the fact that it's been canceled before we

1721
01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:45.159
even see the second season. So it's kind of like

1722
01:38:45.199 --> 01:38:48.560
this colors our entire experience of the rest of the show.

1723
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:52.439
But please, if you love the show, keep loving the show.

1724
01:38:52.520 --> 01:38:56.319
It's great to hear that Shatner doesn't agree with the

1725
01:38:57.199 --> 01:38:58.399
bots out there.

1726
01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:03.079
So anyway, just imagine if they had given him control,

1727
01:39:03.479 --> 01:39:06.239
we would get more Star Trek five five exactly.

1728
01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:11.600
That's gonna say, give Shatner control, you get five seasons

1729
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:12.399
of Star Trek five.

1730
01:39:12.439 --> 01:39:20.159
You're welcome. Just imagine that stea.

1731
01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:22.119
Giving I think what was what's funny is that, like

1732
01:39:22.399 --> 01:39:24.600
so that not to riff on this for too long,

1733
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:29.640
but like it's obvious the fan who said that was

1734
01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:33.279
in a space where he thought of the William Shatner

1735
01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:39.359
Captain Kirk character in a certain way, right, and and

1736
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:42.279
you can make some guesstimates as to what that way

1737
01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:45.279
is but it's very clear that, you know, giving Shatner

1738
01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:49.880
control over Star Trek to that person probably didn't even

1739
01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:52.760
mean William Shatner. It probably meant the idea of a

1740
01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:56.000
William Shatner Captain Kirk style character being the one who's

1741
01:39:56.039 --> 01:40:01.039
actually in charge rather than somebody who's you know, frankly

1742
01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:03.800
like making sure that everybody, even the people on the fringes,

1743
01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:07.359
is included. So it was great to hear him like

1744
01:40:07.479 --> 01:40:10.600
as that guy kind of be like, uh no, that's dumb.

1745
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:14.640
It's actually totally awesome the way it is. So yeah,

1746
01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:20.920
good stuff. So I think V has our next news

1747
01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:21.439
story here.

1748
01:40:22.079 --> 01:40:27.279
Yeah, V yep, okay, all right. Star Trek Universe Auction

1749
01:40:27.560 --> 01:40:34.720
announced Starfleet Academy and Strange New Worlds. Since dismantled. Since

1750
01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:37.920
the new era of Star Trek TV was launched with

1751
01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:42.479
Star Trek Discovery in twenty seventeen, the live action production

1752
01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:46.119
has been in Toronto, Canada. The main exception was for

1753
01:40:46.239 --> 01:40:50.720
Star Trek Piccard, which is shot in southern California, primarily

1754
01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:55.720
to accommodate Patrick Stewart, but with Paramount the signing earlier

1755
01:40:55.800 --> 01:40:59.199
this month to not produce a third season of Starfleet

1756
01:40:59.239 --> 01:41:03.159
Academy and deciding to wrap up Strange in Worlds last year,

1757
01:41:03.680 --> 01:41:06.359
the studio is now looking to let go of their

1758
01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:12.119
Trek stuff. Paramount announced the Star Trek Universe Auction, inviting

1759
01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:16.000
friends to celebrate sixty years of Star Trek and own

1760
01:41:16.079 --> 01:41:19.680
a piece of the legacy, with a portion of the

1761
01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:26.239
proceeds benefiting Do Something. Here is their official description. Join

1762
01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:32.760
us in commemorating sixty years of exploration, imagination and cultural impact.

1763
01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:38.359
Honor the past, celebrate the present, and help inspire the future.

1764
01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:44.199
For six decades, Star Trek has inspired generations to imagine

1765
01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:51.159
a future defined by exploration, optimism, and unity. In honor

1766
01:41:51.199 --> 01:41:55.399
of this milestone anniversary, we are proud to present authentic

1767
01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:59.760
and exclusive items from across the Star Trek Universe in

1768
01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:04.279
support of dosthing dot Org. This is a rare opportunity

1769
01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:08.279
for fans and collectors alike to own a tangible piece

1770
01:42:08.439 --> 01:42:12.720
of the legacy. Each item tells a story, connecting you

1771
01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:16.960
directly to the moments and characters that have shaped one

1772
01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:24.079
of the most influential franchises in entertainment history, and this

1773
01:42:24.199 --> 01:42:27.439
auction is also a chance to make a meaningful impact.

1774
01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:31.560
A portion of the prof seeds will benefit dosthing dot Org,

1775
01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:37.119
one of Star Trek's official sixtieth anniversary charity partners supporting

1776
01:42:37.199 --> 01:42:42.520
young people driving positive change in their communities. We're still

1777
01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:46.119
awaiting most of the details on the auction, including loops

1778
01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:53.359
I just lost, sorry, including exactly what will sell and

1779
01:42:53.479 --> 01:42:55.640
what will be sold and when it will be held.

1780
01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:59.399
As the official description is Auction number one. It appears

1781
01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:04.479
that Things Wild groups will be conducted by four or

1782
01:43:04.479 --> 01:43:08.840
three auctions in Toronto and Toronto. And here's the main

1783
01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:13.600
This company has some strict rules on how it handles

1784
01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:17.520
Am I there? Yeah? Sorry? Uh oh, I lost my

1785
01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:26.880
internet connection again. Sorry, let's see. And here's the main

1786
01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:30.279
catch as strict rules on how it handles its auctions.

1787
01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:33.000
And they warn that for Star Trek sale they will

1788
01:43:33.039 --> 01:43:36.880
not be doing any shipping here the specific your in and.

1789
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:39.159
Out be just trying to finish and see see if

1790
01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:39.560
we get you.

1791
01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:47.680
Okay, yeah, it's my internet dropped again. Sorry, all right,

1792
01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:49.000
all right.

1793
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:53.319
So there's one catch to this auction though, uh you

1794
01:43:53.399 --> 01:43:57.920
must be a local Ontario resident to bid without a deposit.

1795
01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:02.000
Out of provis customers and those located several hours away

1796
01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:06.760
may still be eligible to participate by submitting an interactive

1797
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:12.000
e transfer available through Canadian banks or in person. Cast

1798
01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:15.800
deposits in accordance with our terms and conditions. If your

1799
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:19.039
account was not automatically approved and you wish to proceed

1800
01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:22.239
with a deposit, please contact us at online at four

1801
01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:26.560
O three auctions dot com. The auction house has set

1802
01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:29.479
up a page where you can sign up for updates

1803
01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:34.239
at four O three auctions dot com. Backslash Star Trek. So,

1804
01:44:35.319 --> 01:44:39.399
unfortunately you have to live in Canada or nearby to

1805
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:41.840
bid on any of this stuff, but it does stay

1806
01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:45.840
auction number one in the title. So hopefully some of

1807
01:44:45.880 --> 01:44:48.600
these items will make it to the United States where

1808
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:51.760
other fans will have an opportunity to bid on them.

1809
01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:54.960
All right, Charles, You've got the next one?

1810
01:44:56.760 --> 01:44:57.920
Okay, thank you, Jim.

1811
01:44:58.720 --> 01:45:02.800
Star Trek honored via the Broadcasting Plus Cable Hall of Fame.

1812
01:45:05.119 --> 01:45:08.319
It has been nearly sixty years since creator Jeane Rodberry

1813
01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:13.039
introduced Star Trek to the masses, and in more addition

1814
01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:17.520
to celebrating its Stelluar anniversary this September, the beloved science

1815
01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:21.840
fiction franchise will also be honored by the Broadcasting Plus

1816
01:45:21.880 --> 01:45:25.279
Cable Hall of Fame as part of their twenty twenty

1817
01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:31.239
sixth Class Star Trek Paramount Slash CBS Studios received the

1818
01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:35.119
Broadcasting Plus Cable Hall of Fame Franchise of the Year Award.

1819
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:38.680
Since nineteen ninety one, the BNC Hall of Fame has

1820
01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:44.399
recognied innovators, visionaries, and leaders who have profoundly shaped the

1821
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:50.960
media landscape. Established for Broadcasting Magazine's sixtieth anniversary, each year,

1822
01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:54.720
the Gaile and New York, New York City celebrates a

1823
01:45:54.840 --> 01:46:01.520
new class of network leaders, station managers, agent partners, and

1824
01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:04.479
the media stars who have left a lasting impact on

1825
01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:07.680
the field. Startup could be honored at the thirty fourth

1826
01:46:08.199 --> 01:46:11.359
Broadtesting but Cable Hall of Fame, certainly in New York

1827
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:17.199
City on September twenty ninth, at the Zig Field Ballroom.

1828
01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:20.399
Well, the engratulations is start all deserve.

1829
01:46:22.079 --> 01:46:24.000
And let's see. I think I got time for one

1830
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:29.119
more story. Yeah, this is a short one. Join William

1831
01:46:29.159 --> 01:46:33.720
Shatner on set for one of Live waves popular short films,

1832
01:46:34.359 --> 01:46:37.960
the mission. If you choose to submit, We're selecting two

1833
01:46:38.079 --> 01:46:42.279
people to join us at Live Waves headquarters in Draper, Utah,

1834
01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:46.399
to appear alongside William Shatner in one of the two

1835
01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:50.159
upcoming short films. These films are sequels to the original

1836
01:46:50.279 --> 01:46:56.000
World's Oldest Intern, produced by Live Wire in twenty twenty five.

1837
01:46:56.640 --> 01:47:00.720
You won't just visit the set, You'll step into this spotlight.

1838
01:47:01.439 --> 01:47:04.399
This isn't a contest. It's your chance to be a

1839
01:47:04.479 --> 01:47:07.800
part of history with a legend. And there he is

1840
01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:11.840
right there saying I want you. That's right, don't wait.

1841
01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:14.680
You can submit your application through April twenty four, twenty

1842
01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:20.520
twenty six, at the World's Oldest Intern dot com. So

1843
01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:24.479
wouldn't that be awesome to act alongside William Shatner.

1844
01:47:26.079 --> 01:47:28.359
I almost wonder what the experience would be like, Like

1845
01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:30.760
I feel like in the end it would be a

1846
01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:34.079
great story no matter what happened. But it could be

1847
01:47:34.159 --> 01:47:39.199
really cool or it could be miserable, you know, while

1848
01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:42.840
you're doing it. I'm not sure. Is that sure?

1849
01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:48.000
You know? As long as he you know, yeah, I

1850
01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:49.840
think it could be interesting. I'd have to talk to

1851
01:47:49.920 --> 01:47:52.319
him about stars at five more than anything else. But

1852
01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:55.680
you know, let me just look at that face.

1853
01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:02.439
I love that. I'd love to go back and like

1854
01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:05.720
research all the old like Shatner says, what articles that

1855
01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:08.079
we've said, and just do a whole line of questioning

1856
01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:09.880
that's based on ship that he said it in the

1857
01:48:10.199 --> 01:48:13.079
in the past, because it's all over the place, right,

1858
01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:15.279
be hilarious.

1859
01:48:15.720 --> 01:48:18.760
Yeah, well, how long have we been doing that? Shatner says,

1860
01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:19.640
what we've been doing.

1861
01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:23.359
My god years, man, Like it's it's been many years

1862
01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:25.000
that we have been doing that segment.

1863
01:48:25.079 --> 01:48:29.279
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna Yeah, I think we did a

1864
01:48:29.359 --> 01:48:31.000
Frank says what ones too.

1865
01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:34.439
Yeah, we've occasionally branched out, but really Shatner is the

1866
01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:42.880
one who provides the best content, let's be honest, very.

1867
01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:46.159
Very true, very true. So guys, I think we're gonna

1868
01:48:46.199 --> 01:48:49.439
wrap it up here. So well, you guys know that

1869
01:48:49.479 --> 01:48:52.600
on April thirty, at that seven th Same Bad Time,

1870
01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:58.279
Same Bad Channel, Tarah Rosling Torena from starts Discovery we'll

1871
01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:01.560
be right here with and that one's going to be

1872
01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:03.680
a lot of fun. So you don't want to miss that.

1873
01:49:04.279 --> 01:49:05.840
And as I said at the top of the show,

1874
01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:09.279
April twenty fifth and twenty six, if we're not sci

1875
01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:13.760
Fi Horror Expo at Essex County Fairground, Trek Talk and

1876
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:15.319
then Beyond is going to be there and we're going

1877
01:49:15.399 --> 01:49:18.159
to be hosting a star trek auction. I've got all

1878
01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:20.000
kinds of great stuff that we're going to auction off

1879
01:49:20.039 --> 01:49:23.600
to the Humane Society to help these animals find a home,

1880
01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:28.920
like my Leya and my Anakin who's thinking about jumping

1881
01:49:28.960 --> 01:49:31.800
on my computer. Don't do it. No, stay right there,

1882
01:49:32.840 --> 01:49:38.159
Master say that. No he no, he's not going to

1883
01:49:38.199 --> 01:49:38.560
stay that.

1884
01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:40.800
God damn it. I knew it.

1885
01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:50.119
Over there and like there we go, like right here.

1886
01:49:50.359 --> 01:49:52.039
So please, if you're in the area, stop by a

1887
01:49:52.079 --> 01:49:55.960
different not sci fi expo and say hello. And if

1888
01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:58.680
you finally I'll let you touch my balllet you never know,

1889
01:49:59.479 --> 01:50:02.000
all right, So that's it. I want to say thank

1890
01:50:02.039 --> 01:50:04.399
you so much to Derek and Doug for coming on

1891
01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:06.479
the podcast. They were awesome guests. It was a lot

1892
01:50:06.479 --> 01:50:09.039
of fun to talk to dougs. I hope you guys

1893
01:50:09.119 --> 01:50:11.560
enjoyed that. And thank you so much to V for

1894
01:50:11.640 --> 01:50:14.279
hanging out and Shrek talking with us tonight. Thank you, V.

1895
01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:19.000
I think she's still frozen. And thank you so much

1896
01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:21.039
to Eric for hanging out in Shrek talking with us.

1897
01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:21.399
Thank you.

1898
01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:25.880
Eric, absolutely fun as always a man. Doug Jones, guys,

1899
01:50:25.880 --> 01:50:28.720
we got to talk to him tonight. That was so cool.

1900
01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:33.159
He was awesome. He was awesome. And thank you so

1901
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:35.359
much to Paul for hanging out and Shrek Talking with

1902
01:50:35.439 --> 01:50:37.239
us tonight as well. Thank you so much, Paul.

1903
01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:41.199
It was great, wonderful to have that gentleman as our guest.

1904
01:50:41.279 --> 01:50:42.239
He's a real delight.

1905
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:48.079
I love the stories about falling down off stick. I

1906
01:50:48.119 --> 01:50:52.159
thought that was a riot and they kept on filming.

1907
01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:54.479
Got to love it. And thank you so much to

1908
01:50:54.560 --> 01:50:56.720
Charles for hanging out in Shrek Talking with us tonight.

1909
01:50:56.760 --> 01:50:57.560
Thank you, Charles.

1910
01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:01.000
Oh, thank you. That interview was rate. One of the

1911
01:51:01.039 --> 01:51:03.960
socials you can catch him is on Facebook. I've been

1912
01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:07.640
watching that post constantly and it's like, oh, I wish

1913
01:51:07.640 --> 01:51:09.680
I could afford some of that stuff coming up.

1914
01:51:11.239 --> 01:51:17.520
Yeah he didn't. Yeah, And of course, thank you so

1915
01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:19.520
much to David for hanging out and Struk talking with

1916
01:51:19.600 --> 01:51:21.960
us and putting together these awesome videos. Thank you, David.

1917
01:51:22.520 --> 01:51:24.720
Yeah, it's been fun. Can't wait till next week.

1918
01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:27.920
I think Va is back. Thank you so much for

1919
01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:28.239
the moment.

1920
01:51:28.359 --> 01:51:31.039
For the moment anyway, Yeah, I just keep dropping out,

1921
01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:32.039
so sorry about that.

1922
01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:36.520
But you didn't drop out there, and Doug, I.

1923
01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:40.600
Know I'm thankful for that. Yes, absolutely, so.

1924
01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:42.239
Thank you so much for for hanging out and struck

1925
01:51:42.319 --> 01:51:45.920
talking with us tonight. It was a blast as always,

1926
01:51:46.560 --> 01:51:49.920
I mean, most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Please everybody stay

1927
01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:54.000
safe and be good to each other. Hailing frequencies are closed.

1928
01:51:54.039 --> 01:51:58.279
Good night, everybody, long and prosper.

1929
01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:04.239
Mister Loud, I had work, walk war bod sir, heading

1930
01:52:04.319 --> 01:52:09.800
sir out there.

1931
01:52:12.920 --> 01:52:59.319
That a way

1932
01:53:11.439 --> 01:53:12.119
And that's it.