April 3, 2026

Episode 680- Star Trek, Space, and Movie Quotes: A Sci-Fi Fan's Paradise

Episode 680- Star Trek, Space, and Movie Quotes: A Sci-Fi Fan's Paradise
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Join Uncle Jim and his crew as we explore iconic sci-fi movie lines, test your knowledge with fun trivia, and discuss the latest in space exploration and Star Trek news. Perfect for sci-fi fans and space enthusiasts alike. In this episode, we explore the cancellation of Starfleet Academy, the impact of societal trends on Star Trek, and the future of the franchise. Our panel discusses fan reactions, industry politics, and the importance of diversity and storytelling in sci-fi.



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Sci-Fi, Movie Quotes, Space Exploration, Star Trek, Trivia, Movies, Space Launch, Artemis, Galaxy Quest, Blade Runner, Robocop Star Trek, Starfleet Academy, sci-fi, diversity, fandom, industry politics, future of Star Trek, fan reactions, streaming ratings, franchise development
key topics

  • Iconic sci-fi movie lines and their origins
  • Fun trivia on sci-fi movies and characters
  • Latest updates on space exploration and Artemis launch
  • Star Trek news and fan shout outs The cancellation of Starfleet Academy and industry ratings
  • Fan reactions and petitions for revival
  • Industry politics and the influence of streaming platforms
  • The role of diversity and wokeness in modern Star Trek
  • Future directions for the franchise and potential revivals
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Well, good evening, Trek's and Trekors around the Globe. It's Thursday,

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April second, twenty twenty six. Welcome to episode six and

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eighty of Track Talking and Beyond. I'm your most excellent host,

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Uncle Jim. Welcome to the podcast. And before we go

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too far, I want to go around and introduce my awesome,

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my incredible Truksports. We'll start out with Paul. Paul's out

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in Portland. How are you doing tonight.

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Paul, Uncle Jim, I'm doing well. And you know, it's

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exciting this week because we spend so much time talking

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about science fiction, and this is in one of those

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rare weeks where science fiction and science fact have a confluence.

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And we have launched astronauts into space again this week,

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bound for the Moon, which is very exciting. So I

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think the launch of Artemis has been something that has

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given me a lot of hope this week.

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Well, maybe maybe it's a good time to talk about

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Apollell thirteen. Awesome movie. Ron Howard really really did a

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hell of a job. Oh that's for a podcast and

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later date. But at any rate, we also have out

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with us in Portland. We have our very own David.

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How are you doing tonight, David, I'm.

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One of a kind that's that lot. I'm doing pretty good. Uh.

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I don't know what.

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and it said an error. I was like, oh, so

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I thought something were going on with my streaming, But

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I guess that. But good, everything else is good.

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Yeah, I got that error message.

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Piped up on my scream too.

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Everybody seems to be everyone's here. Everyone's okay, yeah, right,

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every everybody. I hear everybody. We're just gonna pass on,

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We're gonna move forward. And I don't know what that was.

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So it was a gremlin trible, A trible.

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It was a trible, a triple in the machine. Yes,

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and sticking with our Portland theme, we're going to say

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hello to Eric. How you doing tonight?

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Eric doing pretty good? Like Paul, I've spent much of

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my week following the lead up to Artemis's launch and

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then watching it, and uh, you know, now we're getting

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the goods as they're on their way. So I'm very

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excited about having people back in space again. In celebration,

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I wore my give me some Space t shirt.

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And it's just in time for We're All Mankind.

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Yes, the season just dropped and I have not started

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it yet, but it is next up on the list.

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I think it just dropped like a week or two ago,

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so I don't know if any of you guys has

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started it or not. Probably on top of it.

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Yeah, I thought it didn't. I didn't. I thought it

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didn't drop until tomorrow.

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No, they they dropped it a because there's a lot

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of excitement and I think they wanted to get it

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up before the launch, so to speak.

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We definitely should talk about that on the podcast because

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that is an excellent series.

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You guys up for that?

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Sure? Where does it? Where does it.

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Apple TV?

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We don't have Apple TV.

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I think you can get it on Amazon. You just

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have to, like, you know, get it out of Cartea.

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Yeah, I should definitely talk about that. And uh, not

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from Portland, but from Las Vegas. We have our very

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own child. How you doing tonight's Charles.

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I'm doing good weather. It's better.

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Finally, though, the palm tree is weighing. And I didn't guys,

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I didn't get to see the actual launch of Artemis.

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But I actually stayed on the NASA YouTube channel and

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was listening to their mission last night and that was

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very fascinating, not to realize how technic all.

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This stuff is.

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It's it's a major call commit to get up there.

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And I love what they're doing right now.

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the Star Trek, No, for sure.

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Yeah, Charles is worth mentioning. I guess since you just

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said it and we you know, maybe not everybody knows,

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but yes, the the NASA feed for Artemis two has

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been live since hours before launch on their YouTube page,

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and it's twenty four or seven, so you get to

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do the whole thing.

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The whole that's out.

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Do you want to sit there and watch hours of

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awesome mission control stuff?

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You can't sure what's wain about it. It's just like

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you know, in the sixties and seventies TV was just

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like horrific, right, But now it's like we've got all

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these high deff cameras and it's just everything digital and

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the resolutions just pop, so you really get to see

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like space and the vehicle and our planet just like

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you've never seen it. It's just amazing too.

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And it's invigorating new generations. My kid came home from

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school yesterday and she was like, Dad, do you know

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they're launching army. It's like yeah. I was like, yeah,

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let's watch it together. And we watched the latch.

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That's nice, like when you see like from the camera

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perspective on the side of the ship when they like

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let go of like one of the stages, and it's

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just like and you see it tumbling back. It's wild

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to see it in such clarity. It's really amazing.

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Well it was dream up right now. If you guys

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want to see it.

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Sure go ahead, Charles.

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I was gonna say, they've actually got a person on

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there that do will do commentary and we'll let people

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know what's going on and some of the details. And

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they were actually taking their secondary unit yesterday and docking

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with it and prepared for future missions where they can

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actually dock with another ship or station.

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Wow, looks like we're a lot of connection.

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Yeah, I mean this is a this is what you

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get sometimes watching the feed, you get, you know, twenty

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minutes a lens flair. But sometimes you get really really cool.

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I hear somebody's kiddy saying hello.

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That's that is.

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It's either one of them, and we also want to

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of house cleaning to do. April sixteenth, who do we

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have on the podcast on April sixteenth? We have a

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very old Jones, Doug Jones, and there he is. Mister

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Seru himself is going to be here live at seven pm,

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and we're going to talk to him about Saru and

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the Surfer and the myriad of movies.

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Yeah, Baron Offenos, that's great. From what we do in

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the Shadows hell.

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Boy, he was in hell Boy, Shake the Water, I

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mean yeah, he's been at it all and we're going

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to be talking to him on April sixteenth at seventy pm.

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But wait, there's more. On April twenty seven his wife,

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Taylor Rosling, who was Terriina on Star Trek Discovery, is

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going to be with us as well, so you definitely

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want to tune in for that show. She's the president

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of Vulcan, well it's not Vulcan anymore, it's what.

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Do they call it now, Navar. She's the president of Navarre.

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So that's what we have planned for the future, So

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please tune in and have some fun with us.

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On tonight's show.

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I don't know if you guys heard or not, but

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Starfleet Academy has been canceled and we're gonna dive into that,

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and Truck's Spurts are gonna share their opinions that we're

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gonna We're gonna talk about that tonight. But wait, there's more,

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we have our fans shout outs, and that's where we

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spin the globe and we say thank you to fans

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just like you for supporting our podcast. We also have

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trivia with Uncle Jim. It's back and.

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Yay, whose line is it? That's right?

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Whose line is it? I told David there's no Flash

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Gordon and there's no music by Queens. Okay, so he

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can let himself off the hook with that one. Yeah,

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so he can relax about that. We also have our

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sci fi birthdays. What sci fi actor do you share

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a birthday with? This week? Listen to our sci Fi

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Birthdays and find out now what's going on around the

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Star Trek universe and Star Trek News. Shatner says, what

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we have an interesting story from Shatner and could we

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see Lanthonites in season two a Starfleet Academy. I don't know,

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but he's gonna tell you in Star Trek News. And

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that is what we have going on. But first, we

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start off each and every show with our fan shout outs,

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and for that we lit Eric.

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Yes, we are spinning the globe this week. Jim first

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over to the amazing island of Malta and we're saying

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hello this week to Carl Garth Gristie, who hails from

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Sliema on that wonderful island. I've never been to Malta.

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I probably will never go to Malta, but I've looked

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at pictures and it looks pretty amazing. So Carl, hopefully

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you're having a good time there and representing Star Trek

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in every single way possible, maybe wearing your your Star

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Trek T shirts and such. Thank you as well this

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week to top fan Luciano Vulcan, who doesn't say in

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words where they're from, but does send us this amazing

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emoji of an Italian flag with an exclamation point in

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three Live long and prospers. Luciano, thank you so much

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for being a top fan. Top fan status means that

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you interact with us more than most on our Facebook page.

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And while some people say Facebook is dead, we say

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press on, we love it. Thank you for being part

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of our community there. Barbara Joannadice is saying hello to

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us this week from Berlin, sending hugs and greetings. Thanks, Barbara.

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That's very warm, and we send warm greetings and hugs

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right back to you. And finally, on my list, I

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would like to acknowledge and welcome mister Chris Hoyt this

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week with hils from London in the UK, one of

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my favorite cities I have ever been to, including that

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wonderful tartist that you have next to that wonderful Tube

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station that everybody takes their picture.

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I'm going to pass this on to Charles.

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The Let's start with welcoming Laura Cushing. I'm from the

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USS Nautilus which Homestown's Raytown, Montana. Welcome Laura, Welcome, Welcome

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Chris Humble Tremble from Wisconsin. Welcome Cliff, Welcome, Susan Ray

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List Hei you Jerles, Well, we have all kinds of

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folks on many a continent to weigh in and say

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hello to this particular week week. First of all, let's

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go over to Denmark, our good friends over there in

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Albertsund a top fan, Jasper welden Roth or Wildenroth, however

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you may pronounce it, Jasper. We are simply acknowledging your

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amazingness over there and a wonderful place to hang your hat.

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and being a fan many a continent away. Where the

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Kevin Kennedy from Australia, Slanello to us, so I hope

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you are keeping things rotating in the direction that you prefer.

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Kevin.

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so used to seeing things through this American television lens

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great to know that you're out there. It's bread the word, Jose,

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thank you so much for your checking in with us.

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like a weirdo. His words, not you could say Egypt. Well, Brian,

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Rotating director Wised Uncle.

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Jim, Why, thank you so much, Paul.

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Jersey Ice, which is awesome. We also want to say

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Banks of North Carolina. And that, my friend, wraps up

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our fan shout outs for this. If you guys would

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emogis it gets my attention, makes you a better chance

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part next to your name from yours, truly you want

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all of eternity. All right, guys, well, Star Trek is over.

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And you know what that music means. It's once again

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time to put on your thinking caps and join us

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for Star Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim.

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That's right, it's been a long time since we've had

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trivia and we're gonna go there, and we're gonna start

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off with Paul.

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And this week is called whose line is it? Anyway?

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And I've pulled out some famous lines from famous movies

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while movie's famous toss anyways, as sci fi geeks that

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we are, and I'm gonna tell you the uh, give

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you a little hint, tell you the line, and then

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hopefully you can tell me who said it and what movie.

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Is from dy intriguing, Uncle jam Intriguing.

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We are going to put Paul on the spot.

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Here we go, name this classic nineteen sixty eight Arthur P.

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Jacob's movie and the character who delivered the line, you maniacs,

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you blew it up.

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Goddamn you all the hell you blew it off.

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First of all, the clarification, Arthur P. Jacobs was the

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producer of the film, right. The great Franklin J. Shaffner,

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who also directed Patton, was the director of the film,

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So it's really a Franklin J. Schaffner movie. And of

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course there can be no doubt about it. That is

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the line that is delivered by the great charn Heston

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as Colonel George Taylor in the Immortal Original Numero. Who

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know Planet of the Apes?

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Yes, Planet of the Apes and that most classic ending,

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yes with with the Statue of Liberty, which was not

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planned as the original ending. I'm glad they went with

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that one. All right, So the tr experts are one

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for one. And now we're gonna We're gonna go to David.

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Who said this famous line, Y use.

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It from Queens. Okay, okay, here we go. Are you ready, David?

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I hope so.

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I hope so too, because that's okay, here we go.

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Enteen eighty sci fi movie that this line is from.

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And the actor who says it, Gordon's a lie.

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Oh my gosh, that sounds so familiar. Oh my gosh,

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Why can't I think of that movie?

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Eric is kind of fall off his chair.

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Can you repeat the line.

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I have?

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Erica is losing it? Can we can we appreciate he

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almost fell off his chair. He had to take off

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his glasses.

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Okay, wait a minute, Buck Rogers, I don't know.

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Oh, okay, we know what David is gonna be forced

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to watch this weekend.

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You have one job this weekend.

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That I'm curious.

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Well, I might have something to do with the name

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of the character.

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I think the music is the big hint.

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Yeah, I know, I don't know.

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I don't know what that's flash party was?

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Yeah, okay, wait a minute, who was the actor? Who

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was the actor? No one said who the actor was?

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Yeah, sure, that's Sam Jones.

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Right, No, it was not Sam Jones. It was Brian Blessed. Man,

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it's both and the hawk man.

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Oh I thought you meant who played flasks? Sorry, we know.

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Who said the line of dialogue?

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Who said okay, got it understood?

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Sorry, Brian Blessed It's even in the song.

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I cut it out, but it's even in the song.

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Many But that's you, young people. You young people. I

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tell you, I'm losing my faith.

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Yeah.

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I thought there wasn't gonna be any flat Gordon.

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I was like, what is that show? And yeah, flat Gordon.

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I even played the song for you with the name

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of the movie.

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I've never seen that movie.

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Oh dear.

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I try to tailor these questions for each person.

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I don't, I don't I don't have a flash flashy song.

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Okay, all right, but anyways, going all the way back

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to in nineteen sixty eight, again, what nineteen eighties?

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At nineteen sixty eight, Park Film features the line I'm sorry, day,

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I can do that.

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I love that you throw me this softball because you

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know it's one of my favorite movies. That's from two

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thousand and one of Space.

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Odyesty and who says it?

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That's how nine thousand.

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That's right, voiced by Ooh.

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You did his birthday last week?

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I did. And I'm trying to wait. I've got this. Uh,

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come on, I got it. It's Doug Wait, hold on,

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dr duh, Doug Rain, Douglas Rain.

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Yes, yes the rain, Yes he's not wait to pull

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it out, actually help wait to pull it out.

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Okay, that's right. It was the flash song that helped.

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I was like, d I can see the dry well.

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All right, we're gonna put the okay.

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And again these questions I tried to give people easy ones,

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except for David.

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So let's let's that one was a.

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Chance. All right, here we go.

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Name the nineteen eighty nine Robber is a Meccas film

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that features the line.

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Names Eastwood Clint Eastwood. We said it in what movie?

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Roberts mechus, what's that? Don't have a Back to the

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Future because he did, and it had to be it

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had to be Marty McFly Back to the Future Part

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two or what three? Yeah, okay, and then isn't that

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part three?

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I don't think that's part three.

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Well, the website I pulled it off. I said it

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was part two. It might be wrong.

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Because part three is the Western right, and so that's

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why references Clint Eastwood. I think that's how I remember it,

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but I could be wrong. It happened, it might have

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been wrong.

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I just I just went to Famous Lines for Movies

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website and meticulously researched.

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Yeah, so who's the.

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Actor Michael J.

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Fox?

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Michael J. Fox playing Marty McFly.

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All right, so.

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Research it is back to the Future three?

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Are you ready? This is this is the pressure the

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pressures on.

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No, that will go in anyway.

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It's not Flash, okay, nineteen eighty six James camer movie.

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You took the line get away from her? You bet

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who delivered the line?

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And what was the movie?

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I'm not sure I recognize the line flash.

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It's not Flash.

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But here here you are.

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Oh, I think I know I'm trying to do.

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Yeah, do you know this one?

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What are you waiting for? Breakfast in bed? Another glorious

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day in the core?

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Is that tar tip trippers?

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No?

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No, kah think think acid saliva?

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Think listen, I am not going back. I am not

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going back, and if I did, I would be of

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no use.

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To you at all.

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Exactly came over, man, I.

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Am not going back over here.

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Those things what you put her in, George.

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How many lines? How many lines come on?

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You can do this, Charles, You know, I q's just

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simply drop while I was.

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It's the second one, actually, which is sometimes I thought

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of the better one.

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Actually it wasn't. Actually it wasn't a thing of watching

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those those ones. I'm gonna say, I'm thinking posey, thinking predator,

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but that's all I can come up with, alien.

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Or the other one.

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There you go, say the first one again, predators.

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Now make it plural alien, aliens, aliens.

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He just said, whether it's I'll take a shot in

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the dark, whether scorn Sigourney Weaver who said it, Yeah.

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It was the name of a character.

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It's in the opening song, Charles, our opening song of

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the show. Your name is said every week the blank

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blank m P three blank blank.

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You have to believe it or not. You'd have to believe.

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And you know it's been well since I've watched that set.

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And you know what was funny, No, that's that's great.

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No at the yeah, no, what was great? And I

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wish I'd gotten a picture of it. Somebody was dressed

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as the alien the queen, but it was the alien

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wearing like a princess gown and it was hilarious. So

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the queen alien, Yes, that was that was cute.

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All right?

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Is it Paul's turn?

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Uh?

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Uncle Jim is viewed it. He's having a conversation with

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a family member.

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I'm on the radio.

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I can't talk to the dog.

480
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:28.480
Now where's my pakes?

481
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:32.400
We are gonna go back and this one I is

482
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:33.599
like so easy.

483
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:35.960
I can't make it any easier. It has nothing to

484
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:39.079
do with Flash. I promise you already blew your flash.

485
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:43.440
Maybe next week we'll do Another's not going to do

486
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:44.000
it Flash.

487
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.119
I love this segment so much. It's just always fun.

488
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.640
Okay, okay, are you ready to take a deep breath?

489
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:58.839
Focus The nineteen ninety six blockbuster sci fi film directed

490
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:03.359
by Roland Emirate that features the line we will not

491
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:04.839
go quietly.

492
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:05.079
Into the night.

493
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.519
We will not venice without a fight. We are going

494
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:13.599
to live on. We're going to survive. Tonight, we celebrate

495
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.599
and I can't tell you the rest because you know

496
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.279
the name of the movie Alien.

497
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:24.640
Independent. David is on the board.

498
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.079
Friends, David is on the board.

499
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.640
Incredible, incredible, David the President.

500
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:31.880
I forgot his dame.

501
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:39.000
I will take the President. That's close enough.

502
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:46.279
Bill Pullman was president, played by Bill Pullman, And I say, so,

503
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:47.720
you just got it, you got it.

504
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.680
You're you're cool, ye I told you. I knowed you

505
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.160
get that one. All right. Now, we're gonna swing our

506
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:58.160
cameras back over to Paul dun dun dum, who's back.

507
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.079
In a thousand on this one and this one. I

508
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.160
dug a little deeper on this one, Paul, because I

509
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:07.759
know that you have the moxie.

510
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.400
I know that you will know this one.

511
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:13.960
Everything is proceeding exactly as I have for see.

512
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.480
If I was a vetting man, I would say.

513
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.000
You got it all friends on an Endory moved who

514
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.759
will soon be under acatoe.

515
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:29.000
I say this nineteen eighty eight John Carpenter Movie Live,

516
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.880
who said it? I have come here to chew bubble

517
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.000
gum and kick some ass, and I am all out

518
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:36.839
of bubblegum.

519
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:40.240
You know, I love this picture so much, and it's

520
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.319
just it's Carpenter had that weird ability to sort of

521
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.400
look into the future, right and just know and his

522
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:50.519
stuff just keeps on living and growing more, you know, relevant.

523
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:53.960
This movie is more relevant now than it ever ever was.

524
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:55.920
I don't think he had any idea that the great

525
00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:01.680
movie They Live would be quite so precient in terms

526
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.839
of what happened in society. Uh, spoken of course by

527
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:10.200
the great Rowdy Roddy Piper, ex Portland wrestler turned movie star.

528
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.880
So yeah, I'm a pretty amazing movie. If there is

529
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.279
anybody on the show that's never seen it before, run

530
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.000
it's amazing. And anything by John Carpenter the whole eighties

531
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.079
run that he had, Holy crap, the best movies ever made.

532
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:27.640
That movie's great, amazing.

533
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.079
Oh yeah, I'm anything John Carpenter. Man, I love John Carpenter.

534
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:33.240
He's just one of my heroes.

535
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:39.119
Next week's podcast, Oh really, next week's pod. Yes, next

536
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:43.039
week's podcast. Uh is going to be John Carpenter. Movies

537
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.799
really really.

538
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.759
Really don't don't play with me.

539
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:53.319
Jim David Flash Gordon is not one of them, So

540
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:54.119
you don't have to worry.

541
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.319
Man, I am so excited for that. I am if

542
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.480
that's true, I'm I could not be some mart I

543
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.880
will I will get props. I will bring I will

544
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.160
bring visual aids. Let's just say.

545
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.200
That everybody gets five hundred dollars every time Paul says,

546
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.720
you haven't seen that movie.

547
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:15.960
We're gonna put We're gonna put the on the spot

548
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:21.079
now and here we go right. Name this nineteen eighty

549
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:25.960
seven Paul Verhoven movie and the line that said get

550
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:29.119
her alive, You're coming with me? And who said it?

551
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.799
And what was the movie?

552
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:31.440
Hmmm?

553
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:33.519
Who is the director?

554
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.240
Paul ver Hoven, Dutch filmmaker.

555
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:45.279
Yeah, I know the name. I just can't little life,

556
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.880
You're coming with me? And what year was it? Eighty seven?

557
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:53.359
Yeah, although there was three there was actually three movies

558
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:54.880
and a TV show.

559
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.680
I have to leave somewhere. A crime is happening.

560
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.720
I think I know what it is.

561
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:06.480
Oh, would it be? Yeah, I'm trying to think because

562
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.760
I'm hmmm.

563
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.320
Was it one of the Murphy It's me Murphy, It's me,

564
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.480
it's me Murphy. It's me Murphy, It's me.

565
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.199
I was going to say one of the Terminator movies,

566
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:28.679
but I don't remember Murphy. Uh, RoboCop.

567
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.280
Yes, that's what I was going to say.

568
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:36.360
To Yeah, and that was what's his name? Peter and

569
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:41.480
see his face Peter Weller, Yes, thank you, thank you.

570
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.119
That's where star trek Inness fain.

571
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:49.360
Yeah, that's where where there when he's driving and all

572
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:53.400
those guys get doused with the toxic waste and he

573
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.360
hits the one guy and he like explodes like a

574
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:57.239
rotten tomato.

575
00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:58.480
It was so Chris.

576
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.360
I will Oh. It was just yeah. They're just like, well, yeah,

577
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:05.639
that movie.

578
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.679
That's the best bad guy e A Clan Spotty. Yeah, amazing, way.

579
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:10.800
Way way back in the day.

580
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.079
I had a laser disc player because they were hot

581
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:18.239
at the time. R rated version RoboCop. I had to

582
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.960
go out and get it and I watched. I'm like,

583
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:22.880
wait a minute, that is what made it rated.

584
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:23.760
You know what made it rate?

585
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:24.119
It off?

586
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.719
I do the beginning when he gets murdered by the

587
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.280
bad guys. Yeah, there's a close up of his hand

588
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:34.840
and they blow his hand off and his fingers fly off.

589
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.360
Oh oh my. Yeah.

590
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.920
And the scene in the and this the scene in

591
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.800
the boardroom when the one guy accidentally gets unloaded on

592
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.320
by ED two nine, by the big Century robot. It

593
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.920
just goes on for like ninety seconds, just doesn't.

594
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:56.119
Miguel Parreer that gets some Yeah, because he's he's just

595
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.880
a total creep. And so it just that.

596
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.440
Movie was right on the line between when it was

597
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.719
when there was like X rated and then NC seventeen. Yeah,

598
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.760
the Gible Cop originally had like a worse than our rating, right, Yeah,

599
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:11.400
he kind of like cleaned it up a little bit.

600
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.039
Yeah. I think it came out originally with no rating.

601
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.360
It was crazy. Yeah, but such a it's a really

602
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.599
trufic picture though. My god, it.

603
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:20.440
Was very intense.

604
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.400
Okay, well, we're gonna swing back to Charles.

605
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:30.480
Ah and uh, yeah, this one is another easy I

606
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:31.800
shouldn't say that every time I.

607
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.079
Say that, its immediately possible.

608
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.519
Question. Okay, you're not gonna do it.

609
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.679
You won't know what you have no clue at all there. Okay,

610
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:47.159
all right, who utters this line? And what movie did

611
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:50.320
they say it in? By grab Thor's Hammer, by the

612
00:36:50.360 --> 00:37:01.679
Sons of War? You shall be of ad. It's a

613
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:04.000
great Star Trek movie, one of the best, and it's

614
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:04.880
not Star Trek.

615
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:05.639
Five and all that is.

616
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:16.880
Ah, and you just mentioned a movie that has a

617
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.239
similar member of the cast in it as well.

618
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.960
That's true. She has one job on this ship. It's

619
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.559
stupid but it's.

620
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.079
Mm hmm, I'm.

621
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:40.679
Not sure I recognize the line, so again, no, thanks, Gramps.

622
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:44.360
It is one of the best.

623
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:48.440
It's one of my favorite movies, and it's from it.

624
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.519
He's gonna pull it out Galaxy Quest yay?

625
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:56.000
And Alan.

626
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:04.679
Yeah, Alan Rickman, Doctor Lazarus, Doctor Lazarus. What is your inspiration?

627
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.280
I've only seen it once. It's not one of my

628
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.519
favorite Star Trek like flicks.

629
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:18.800
Okay, Eric, we're gonna wrap up with you. Remember you

630
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:20.320
mentioned on.

631
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.360
A podcast quite a while ago that this was one

632
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:24.440
of your favorite movies.

633
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.639
So I had to go and pull a line out

634
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.000
of this movie. And according to the to the this

635
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:33.679
is d line from this movie.

636
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:34.599
Okay, So.

637
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.159
What classic nineteen eighty two movie is this line from?

638
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:41.599
Who said it?

639
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:47.039
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe, backshifts on fire,

640
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:50.679
off the shoulder of a line. I've watched sea beans,

641
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.559
glitter in the dark near the cancerre Gate. All those

642
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:58.840
moments will be lost in time like tears in the rain.

643
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:03.480
I just got I just got goosebumps. I'm like my

644
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.239
heart like race just a little bit. When you gave

645
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.800
me this one. Yeah, okay, that line is of course

646
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.440
said by the android Roy Daddy from the original Blade Runner,

647
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.280
And that scene is probably one of the best scenes

648
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:23.719
in all of science fiction history in my opinion. You've

649
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.119
got the Vangelis music in the background, You've got everything

650
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:29.199
in the movie that has kind of led up to

651
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:33.599
this moment. You've got the the defeat of this character

652
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:37.119
that up until this point has been the like lynch

653
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:41.800
pin of a of almost like an android uprising. I mean,

654
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.000
just what a scene. What a scene. So yeah, thank

655
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.280
you for giving me that one. And now I have

656
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.199
to slow my heart down.

657
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.679
That was the last line in the movie, wasn't it.

658
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.119
No, not the last time, but it's but you know,

659
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:00.320
he improvised that, that Lineoker Howard it he made up

660
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.480
that morning on the set. Yeah, he was. He wasn't

661
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:04.000
happy with what was written. He went he said, I'm

662
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:04.679
going to try something.

663
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:05.440
He just went off.

664
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.280
And and then did it. Uncle Jim, I have a

665
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.880
trivia question for you, okay, just to make it equal

666
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.639
right to throw it out there, right, Okay, this is

667
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:23.519
a who said this dialogue regarding the substance Regarding the

668
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:29.639
substance of oil in the nineteen fifty six film. In

669
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:34.119
the nineteen fifty six film, a character says, I rarely

670
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:40.880
use it myself. It promotes rust. What was the movie

671
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:48.679
and who said it? I rarely use it myself. It

672
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:58.599
promotes rust. Year nineteen fifty six. You weren't even a

673
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:04.760
colonel in your mother's opcorn, because.

674
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:11.920
All right, we lost Eric, Eric down, we lost Eric.

675
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:15.320
Oh my, oh.

676
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:26.559
My, oh my.

677
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:43.840
Oatulating I can breathe, Oh.

678
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:44.239
My god.

679
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.320
Has to be one of the best things that you

680
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:57.960
have ever said, Paul, Oh my god.

681
00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.639
Do you give up, sir? Do you surrender?

682
00:41:59.679 --> 00:41:59.880
Sir?

683
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:04.360
It was the robot from Lost in Space.

684
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.199
It was actually it was there. You're really close.

685
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.119
It wasn't the Lost of Space. It was the robot. Yeah.

686
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.119
The I was the name of that robot, the danger

687
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.960
Will Robinson robot. But it wasn't in Lost in Space.

688
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.199
Yeah, it was nine from Out of Schools. You're really

689
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.639
really close. The robot was on Lost in Space as

690
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.400
a guest robot. But the original robot was named Robbie.

691
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.119
Robbie the Robot, and he was in the classic sci

692
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:36.599
fi film Forbidden Planet, which basically was the template for

693
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.480
Star Trek. There would be no Star Trek without Forbidden Planet.

694
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:41.719
If you watch it, it is Star Trek and I

695
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:43.960
would love to have a show about it sometimes because

696
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.039
it's absolutely magnificent and amazing and not seen enough.

697
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:54.239
Eric's like, you're about to pay everyone five hundred dollars now, young. Yeah, yeah,

698
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.000
it's amazing, it's really really great. So just shouting out.

699
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:58.960
Got to make sure Jim gets in the mixt of so.

700
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.679
But yeah, so there we go, and I'm chilling like

701
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:04.320
popcorn for some reason, I don't know what.

702
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:07.440
Away from my head.

703
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:16.239
Yeah, so I you know, we'll do this again, you guys.

704
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.079
Yes, please, let's please do this.

705
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:19.480
This is.

706
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.079
David. I'm going to ask you flashcarding questions until you

707
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:24.760
get one right.

708
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:26.960
Okay, flash.

709
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:33.199
If you better just say flash Gordon music. By the way, that's.

710
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.960
Gonna be automatic pros.

711
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.159
Yeah, you better better get it, all right, guys. So

712
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:42.960
that one has up our little little writ on trivia.

713
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.000
And maybe some of these movies you haven't seen in

714
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:49.320
a while, maybe some of them you've never seen, go

715
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:50.760
check them out, all right.

716
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.760
So in the Star Trek world.

717
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.000
I think one of one of the strongest and one

718
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:59.199
of the best Star Trek series that we've had the

719
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:03.280
privilege of watching. That Alex Kersman has delivered to us

720
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.039
in quite a few years as Starfleet Academy. It was

721
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.719
recently canceled. It was canceled three days after the season

722
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:14.039
two finale. Yeah, the season one finale, that is. And uh,

723
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:18.880
it's caused ripples. I think that's a good word title

724
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.880
ways namies across fandom.

725
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.960
And uh, there's a lot of.

726
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:28.639
There's a lot of feelings on both sides of this

727
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.679
particular issue. But I wanted to talk about it because

728
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.719
it's something near and dear to my heart. And I'm

729
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.480
gonna tell you, guys a little story about a man

730
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:39.519
named Jed who.

731
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.400
Was shooting at some food and up to the ground

732
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.440
came a bubbly now.

733
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.119
So, way way way back in the day, there was

734
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:51.239
a there was a wee we we ladd named Uncle Jim,

735
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.280
And believe it or not, it was kind of a loner.

736
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:59.639
Wasn't a jock, wasn't a geek, wasn't a brain, kind

737
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.800
of hung out mostly with.

738
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:03.960
The D and D crowd, although it didn't play the game.

739
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:09.239
And there was one particular TV show that I watched regularly,

740
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:15.599
never missed, was Star Trek and I just loved Star Trek.

741
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.599
I love the message behind Star Trek and it got

742
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:21.679
me through some tough times, and I treasure Star Trek.

743
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.679
I think it's one of the best forms of entertainment

744
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:32.360
because it educates us while entertaining us simultaneously. And I

745
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:34.480
think the person that I am today I owe a

746
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:36.599
lot of that to Geene Roddenberry's vision of the future

747
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:37.400
and Star Trek.

748
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.079
So I always will defend Star Trek.

749
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.519
I will always fight for Star Trek, even you know,

750
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:46.880
I don't love all Star Trek. I think some of it.

751
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:49.639
You know, it is not my favorite, but it still is.

752
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.280
Star Trek always will be. I think it's important, and

753
00:45:53.280 --> 00:46:00.599
I think the Starfleet Academy was extremely important and relevant today,

754
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.599
especially with what's going on in the world today. We

755
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.960
need that positivity and we need that ray of hope

756
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:12.400
that Starfleet Academy was giving us until that was extinguished.

757
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:16.639
So I wanted to talk a little bit about why

758
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.320
it was canceled because it's an enigma, really, so.

759
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:29.000
Score on Rotten Tomatoes right eating nine.

760
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.679
I think it was Critics loved it, all of our

761
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.159
fans on our Facebook page. I've been accused of ai

762
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.679
and cheating and rigging it, but you guys can go

763
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.559
to our page, Trek Talking and beyond, and see what

764
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:43.599
the fans had to say about the episodes.

765
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.280
We you know, it's all public, it's you know, it's

766
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:47.239
all there. Check it out.

767
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:53.199
Our fans loved it, you know, hands down. I in fact,

768
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:57.639
I believe David Charles can correct me, but I think

769
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.599
Starfleet Academy got the highest of any of the shows

770
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.320
that we've done to date. Right, Charles are pretty much

771
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.679
right up there at any rate.

772
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.480
So give me time to research.

773
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.800
The fans on our Facebook page have really great tastes

774
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.719
and really enjoyed the show. Most of our Truk Sports

775
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:23.079
except for one, enjoyed pretty much all of the episodes,

776
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:27.360
and we'll get to that one and we can express themselves.

777
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:35.199
So when it was canceled, I was shocked. My question

778
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.360
would be, why did they It takes twenty eight days,

779
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:39.719
if you.

780
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.679
Guys, They were citing the fact that the Nielsen ratings

781
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.639
weren't high enough. I was looking into the Nielsen ratings,

782
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.239
which we use mostly for advertisers. Streaming services don't give

783
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:56.840
out their numbers, so whatever, but generally it takes twenty

784
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.400
eight days for streaming numbers to come in because not

785
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:03.519
everybody watches these streaming shows at the same time. They're

786
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:06.719
all over the place, so some people DVR it whatever,

787
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:11.199
and usually it takes about twenty eight days for the

788
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:14.360
numbers to come in. So for Paramount to cancel Starkley

789
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.239
Academy three days after the final episode and say the

790
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.760
ratings were terrible is utter shit because they didn't have

791
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.360
the numbers at that point in time to determine how

792
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.639
good or how bad it was. It just wasn't they

793
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:36.760
weren't there. Paramount had spent years promoting this show, building sets,

794
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:41.480
the largest sets that send step Space nine and for

795
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:45.000
them to just turn around and cancel the show before

796
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.119
the second season even aired. I mean, if they were

797
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.119
going to cancel the show, why would they do it

798
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.639
the way they did it. Why not if they had

799
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.960
canceled it wait till season two started and then announced

800
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.039
that it was canceled. It doesn't make sense to me.

801
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:05.880
I'll say the our current administration has come after Star Trek,

802
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:11.840
Stephen Miller and Elon Musk both made comments about Star

803
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:15.039
Trek being too woke and they wanted William Shatner to

804
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:15.639
take it over.

805
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:18.519
We do know that.

806
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:25.519
Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel's shows were canceled by pressure

807
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:26.800
from Donald Trump.

808
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:27.760
They came back on.

809
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.320
And there were a lot of rumors flying around right

810
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.880
around the time of Strange New Worlds that Donald Trump

811
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:41.119
was not going to approve the sale the sky Dance

812
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.719
because Star Trek was too woke, and here we are,

813
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:51.000
sky Dance trade went through. Star Trek is canceled. For me,

814
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.920
I think it's one of the saddest days in Star Trek.

815
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.400
Fans are celebrating it. I don't know why, because the

816
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:04.000
Star Trek was canceled because it's too woke. And we

817
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.400
ever do get a new Star Trek show from Paramount

818
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.880
Slash sky Dance. Is it going to be a whitewashed show?

819
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.159
Is it still going to be the Star Trek we

820
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:14.639
all know and lover? Is it's going to be a

821
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:17.400
bunch of white guys with a bunch of scanty clad

822
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.079
women running around with no substance at all that barely

823
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:23.719
represents Star Trek. Are they going to go for the

824
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:28.480
fans service nostalgia that the fans seem to be screaming

825
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.440
for because a lot of times fans don't really know

826
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:33.440
what they want. You know, we want nostalgia, you know,

827
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:37.920
you know we want legacy characters, we want fans service,

828
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:41.639
and it makes me think of the card season three

829
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.360
and that's not what I want to see.

830
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:47.320
So I thought we should talk about it.

831
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:50.679
You know why why we think it was canceled, and

832
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.719
you know what we think about the future. Now there

833
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:59.800
is a there are two two petitions going around right now,

834
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.519
one of them to bring Starfleet Academy back for season three.

835
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.440
Started out with ten thousand signatures, is up to close

836
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.719
to thirty thousand now it's garnering a lot of movement.

837
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.639
And then there's another petition, and I bring this up

838
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.880
because I want to mention the haters. There's another petition

839
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:25.159
to that girl season two of Starfleet Academy, which basically

840
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:27.079
means they don't want to have it ever be shown

841
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:31.599
because it's so bad. And that petition has five hundred

842
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:36.360
and ninety signatures. So the reason why I mentioned this

843
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.920
is because I truly do not believe that all of

844
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:44.079
the hatred that we see on the internet, all the

845
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.320
hate pages and the YouTube videos, had anything to do

846
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.920
with the cancelation of Starfleet Academy, because we've seen.

847
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:55.639
That for Discovery over and over and over again.

848
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.480
We see that for every Star Tucks show that comes out,

849
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:02.320
and yet these shows aren't just canceled. So I think

850
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.840
there's more to this than than whining white boys that

851
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:06.320
are that are?

852
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.719
Can we Uncle Jim? Can we talk about some of

853
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.719
the variables, right, Let's let's get a conversation going.

854
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:13.880
So let's let's talk.

855
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:18.679
Okay, there's a lot of variables at play. Can I

856
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.039
just throw a couple out here in terms of this, right?

857
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.599
For one thing, I just in terms of what because

858
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:26.760
this petitions are not going to make a dent in

859
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:29.559
this environment at all. That is not that is not

860
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:30.320
what they care about.

861
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:30.519
Right.

862
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:32.840
I'm kudos to the fans who are spending their energy

863
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:34.320
doing that, but it's not going to make a ripple.

864
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:36.920
It's not going to change what's already happened. Sort of

865
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.159
a time machine, right. A lot of what you're dealing

866
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.599
with right now is let's talk about Okay, eighty five

867
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:45.360
percent score Rotten Tomatoes, right, that is only one half

868
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:48.639
of the situation. That's the critic score. The audience score

869
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:51.320
is a is a rotten fifty one percent? Right. It

870
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.719
was very divisive show for audiences, and that's part of

871
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.119
the reason that we're in this situation. Because right now

872
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:02.000
there is more influenced, driven and about a show and

873
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.960
how successful it can be by the buzz and the

874
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.960
giant and the engagement, which is the most nebulous phrase, right,

875
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:11.320
but that is what gets you know, so much traction

876
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:14.039
engagement on social media. You look at a show like

877
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.400
The Pit, it's got crazy go on threads for a

878
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:18.320
few minutes and trying to get on there and not

879
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.559
see a post about the Pit, Right, it's crazy how

880
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:27.280
much engagement that show has, right, really really divided audience

881
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.000
reaction to this show. I think, like you're saying, a

882
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.119
lot of I think old school fans really liked it,

883
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:35.079
a lot of the newer more how can I say

884
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:40.519
this delicately, man o sphere elements of the audience, if

885
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:42.679
you know what I'm saying, right, they had a lot

886
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:44.960
of problems with it. You know, you throw them like

887
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:50.719
you know, a gender vague klingon. They cannot handle it, right,

888
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:53.199
And that's sort of what gets to the whole thing.

889
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:55.760
You've got an online backlash and a lot of that's

890
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:58.639
generated by bots, right, A lot of that is not

891
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.119
actual human beings. They're not generated right, pretending to be

892
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:05.039
humans to try to influence things. That's the environment we're

893
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.039
in right now. It's really difficult. But at the end

894
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.719
of the day, if that show had gotten great numbers

895
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.760
and it cracked the Nielsen's weekly Top ten streaming, it

896
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.440
wouldn't have mattered what these trolls said, right, because that

897
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:20.039
is the bottom line, right, poor ratings at poor viewership.

898
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.639
It never really found a significant audience to be able

899
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.480
to do well. And that is what Paramount is all about,

900
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:29.960
right They it's got to crack the top ten. They've

901
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.480
got to see that it's successful and it's finding an audience.

902
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:34.840
And I'm blamed personally a lot of that on Paramount

903
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.519
because they didn't market this film, this series well at all.

904
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.639
It was very difficult to see. You know, every now

905
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:41.000
and then I come across an ad on the back

906
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:43.760
of a comic book, but very seldom would you see

907
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:45.760
ads for it. It was not positioned well. It was

908
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:49.199
just basically a lot of shots of young people lying

909
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:54.039
on the grass like at their college, you know, compound

910
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:56.880
or whatever. It didn't really explain what the stories were

911
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.760
like or positioned the fact that they are adult characters

912
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.880
like and Paul Giamatti, but that there's actually a drama.

913
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:05.679
None of that was really conveyed at all, and so

914
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:08.039
I think they did a really poor job of selling

915
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:11.199
the shell. They shot themselves in the foot. Right. This

916
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:14.440
is an extremely expensive show to produce, right, and it's

917
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.280
got to be making a lot of revenue for them

918
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:17.360
to justify shooting it.

919
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:17.599
Right.

920
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:21.559
That's how they are, right, And so up against all

921
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.760
of that stuff that you're talking about, there's two other

922
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:29.679
variables that basically drive everything. Right. Alex Kurtzman's contract is

923
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:33.159
about to expire, right, and he's sitting there waiting to

924
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:35.079
find out if he's his ten year thing is over.

925
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:41.440
He's been responsible for all this stuff, Discovery, Strange, New Worlds, Starfleet, Academy,

926
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:43.559
Lower Decks, Right, it's all the Kurtzman thing.

927
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:43.719
Right.

928
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:45.960
He's got a lot of haters over the years, right,

929
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:50.639
he has. But also within the ranks Paramount now, because

930
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.800
Paramount is controlled by David Ellison, right, very conservative media gentleman, right,

931
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:58.840
very conservative. He's not liking the direction that it's going. Right,

932
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:00.920
it's a little too lefty, and it's, like you say,

933
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:03.159
for him, it's probably his little too woke. Yet at

934
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:06.599
the same time, Ellison has been out there being really

935
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.840
really vocal he's a big Star Trek champion, right. He

936
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:11.719
wants to see it, but he doesn't want to see

937
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.079
Alex Kirtzman's brand of Star Trek. I don't think that

938
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:16.760
his ten year contract is getting renewed at the end

939
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:19.599
of the year. I don't. But he's talked about what

940
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:21.519
he really wants to come do. He wants to be

941
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:25.119
the dude who writes the ship and gets box office

942
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.079
Star Trek movies made again. He was a big fan

943
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.119
of the JJ Abrams pictures, right, especially the first one.

944
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:35.159
He wants to be able to tell compelling storytelly across

945
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.559
all the platforms. He really wants to bring Truck back

946
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:43.039
to the big screen period. That's his whole thing. That's

947
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:47.199
what he wants to see happen, right, And you know,

948
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:49.159
whether or not he's going to green light more TV

949
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.159
shows remains to be seen. I just don't think it'll

950
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.280
be with Kurtzman at the helm. So he's you know

951
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.000
it is, he's you know a lot of the conservatives,

952
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:00.840
you know, and the folks who are very right wing

953
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.599
leaning who do not like those things. We've been generating

954
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:08.119
all the negative, hostile feedback. You know, they've got their

955
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:11.239
hands on the purse right now, and so it's tough.

956
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:15.239
You can have a great vocal percentage of the fan

957
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.679
base that loves it, sixty percent of the fan base

958
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:20.159
if you want to be generous, right, who like the show,

959
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.679
Critics like it. But if it's not marketed well and

960
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.719
it's not streaming well and the folks in charge don't

961
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.559
support it, what can you do? And I think those

962
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:30.239
are the key variables at the end of the day

963
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.239
that are responsible for where we're at. I personally thought

964
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:34.920
the show was great and I enjoyed it. I was

965
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.280
looking forward to seeing, you know, more than the second season.

966
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:40.559
It's such an awful position to be it. You've got

967
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.679
your second season and the can it's film, right, and

968
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:45.119
what's that going to be like when they air that?

969
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:47.400
And we all know that, you know, whatever we get

970
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:50.039
for a finale of season two won't go beyond that, right,

971
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.760
So it's frustrating. So I'm as frustrated as anyone else.

972
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:55.760
But when it comes to the market in the way

973
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.119
the business operates, I'm a realist and you have to

974
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:00.880
just look at those variables. So that's might take on it. Man.

975
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:04.679
So do you think that you think the message behind

976
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.800
Star Trek has changed, or you think the fans have changed.

977
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:12.559
I think the guys who own the property and you know,

978
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.840
but not so much Kurtzman himself, right, I think it's

979
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:18.639
the guys who have the purse strings control of the money, right,

980
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:21.159
no Bucks, no buck Rogers, as they said in The

981
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:23.880
Right Stuff, Right. Whoever's got the control of the money,

982
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.880
they get to decide what Star Trek is. Horrible reality,

983
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.559
but it's true, right, and they'll certainly adhere to some

984
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.960
version of Gene Roddenberry's idach right, but it'll be their

985
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.400
version of it, and it'll be whatever they want it

986
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.920
to be. You know, that's the way things go, right,

987
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.119
they have it's their ip. I've seen a lot of

988
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.360
people out there posit this idea, and friends, I would

989
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:49.039
love to see this happen, right, I mean, you need

990
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.719
to find somebody with equally deep pockets and an idea

991
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:53.840
I've seen that that could be good is if you've

992
00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:57.559
convinced the folks over at Apple to buy the whole ip,

993
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:01.639
you know, take it away from paramount right, offer them

994
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.519
however many you know, billions of dollars that would take.

995
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:06.920
But let somebody is a little bit more free thinking

996
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:11.159
and risk taking. Apple shows are risky, right, and they

997
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:13.239
do a really good job and they don't hold back

998
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:15.480
for the most part. They're clever and creative, and they

999
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.440
support the people who work for them and give them

1000
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.960
a lot of leeway. I'd love to see Apple just

1001
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:22.159
buy the whole intellectual property and just make it a

1002
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.280
Star Trek thing. I think it would be amazing, you know,

1003
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:28.519
but they got to be the ones who decide to

1004
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:30.679
do that. But it's the it's we live in an

1005
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:32.960
age of oligarchs, the people who have all the big

1006
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:36.400
giant pots of money. They tell you where the ship goes,

1007
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.239
and it's unfortunate. But it's just very different than the

1008
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.199
TV landscape of the next gen and Deep Space nine era.

1009
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:47.639
Very different. Indeed, enough of me talking to other people,

1010
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:49.760
Please other people, Eric, I'd love to hear what you think.

1011
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:59.960
So Paramount pluss.

1012
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:58.480
Two more years of Strange your World in another season

1013
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.440
of this. I want to see that stuff. I'm not

1014
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:01.119
going to cancel it.

1015
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.880
I might. I might cancel it, like temporarily, because they

1016
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:07.800
raised it. I mean they just at the beginning of

1017
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:10.039
the year they raised the price of it. You know.

1018
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:15.920
It's another went up a dollar in its monthly subscription fee.

1019
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:20.559
So yeah, I just want I just want to ask

1020
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:26.320
the question, since when does a sitting president have the

1021
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:30.039
right to say whether or not companies merge? Is that

1022
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:33.800
something that I'm missing that's a part of the being

1023
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:36.880
the president of the United States? Or is it just something?

1024
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:37.239
Yeah?

1025
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.960
I know, but that's that's ridiculous. I don't remember any

1026
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:44.679
other you know, I don't remember anybody doing anything like that.

1027
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.440
Every everything is different.

1028
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:47.679
I know it is, I know it is.

1029
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:50.039
Yeah, we live in a very corrupt environment.

1030
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.599
It's exceedingly well.

1031
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:57.760
Yeah, influences bought, you know, so it's tough. It's really tough.

1032
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.800
Well, it's just it's just nauseating when you know, I

1033
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:04.480
saw the comments that the body shaming and the age

1034
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:08.280
you know, agism and everything like that. But yeah, absolutely

1035
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:11.599
politically motivated. Uh. And the ones that say that it's

1036
01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:14.639
too woke are I'm sorry, they claim they're Star Trek fans,

1037
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:21.320
but they you can't be a true uh, you know,

1038
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:26.199
to the core Star Trek fan if you don't understand

1039
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:30.639
that's why I wore this shirt. Infinite diversity, infinite combination,

1040
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:34.880
you know, that's that's what it's about. And people are

1041
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:38.639
have lost their you know, it's the influence has gotten

1042
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:44.639
you know, towards hating that sort of thing. It's really uh,

1043
01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:48.840
you know, in the real world, it's it's frightening, it's absolutely.

1044
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:50.199
Yeah.

1045
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:51.840
I just say, you know, one other thing is just

1046
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.679
you know, and it's not just Star Trek friends. It's

1047
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:54.960
not I mean, the same things we're going on the

1048
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:57.159
Star Wars community for the last few years. Right, it's

1049
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:01.159
just like totally getting like social media torpedoes of hate

1050
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:03.800
all the time, right, and you think of the Jedis

1051
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:06.480
are about peace and justice and all the things like that. No, no, no, no, no.

1052
01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.480
These new fans, manosphere fans if you want to call

1053
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:13.119
them whatever you want to, they are all about the Empire, right.

1054
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:17.239
They're rooting for like the Stormtroopers and Palpatine and Baitter.

1055
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:19.760
They like that part. They don't like the Jedi. They

1056
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.719
like they're they're rooting for the fascists, right. That's where

1057
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.639
that's what draws them into the IP and makes that

1058
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:27.840
they're fans of that. They don't want to see the

1059
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.719
you know, peaceful you know, you know that's why you

1060
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:36.000
show like Acolyte just got slaughtered, right, because you know,

1061
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:39.079
I mean, they you know, just like Discovery, they wore

1062
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:42.400
their woke on their sleeve, right and and you know,

1063
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:44.920
power to them for that. But in this climate, it's

1064
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:48.079
risky and it's it's tough, and you've got to be

1065
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:49.320
able to fight, and you've got to be able to

1066
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:51.400
have marketing on your side and know it to market

1067
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.960
against ay and the studio does not step up and

1068
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.960
do that because you know, in addition to being very

1069
01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:01.639
corrupt environment, it's a very risk averse. People are afraid

1070
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.599
to do anything risky and they're afraid of what will

1071
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:09.079
cost them. So, you know, it's tough, tough times to

1072
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:12.239
be working on a creative television show that's trying to

1073
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:14.239
talk about hope and imagination.

1074
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.559
Yeah, but I agree with you. Yeah, I was gonna

1075
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:18.760
say I wish that.

1076
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:19.719
It's easier to hate.

1077
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:23.559
Then I think hate is an easier things, easy for

1078
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:25.679
people to hate than it is for people to accept

1079
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:26.320
and understand.

1080
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.000
It's easy to hate something that.

1081
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:33.039
You don't understand or accept than it is to try

1082
01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:36.280
to accept it or understand it. It's easier to hate it. Yeah,

1083
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:39.079
that's the world that we'll find ourselves in. But back

1084
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:45.559
to your You're coming about petitions being worthless. There was

1085
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:49.760
a this is awesome sci fi show called The Expanse

1086
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:55.679
that was canceled, and the fans had a campaign and

1087
01:03:55.719 --> 01:04:00.599
they signed a petition and it came back and man.

1088
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.280
But different people in control of the money, different era.

1089
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:05.679
Even just a few years ago. Things have changed so

1090
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:09.519
much since then, they really really have. And the Expanse

1091
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.239
didn't have a divisive community where half the people wanted

1092
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:15.440
to burn into the ground, right, pretty much everybody loved

1093
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.920
the experience. So I mean that's that's a big difference, right.

1094
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:19.880
I want to hear all my friend Eric has to say.

1095
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:21.519
He'd been really quiet, buddy, And I know this is

1096
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:25.559
a challenging topic, but I really want to make sure

1097
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:27.599
everybody gets a chance to talk, because I tended to

1098
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:31.800
just keep fire hosing into the vacuum. So apologies.

1099
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:36.960
No, I mean that's fine. I yeah, I mean I

1100
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:39.679
can't disagree with anything that you've said, Paul. I mean,

1101
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:46.679
it's for me, it's clear that that the Typo Star

1102
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:52.519
Trek that Alex Kurtzman has been producing does have I

1103
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:55.760
think what some folks would call a liberal bent to it,

1104
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:59.440
and what that means from my perspectives, Like THEE and

1105
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:01.159
I have talked about this. You know, what is what

1106
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:03.920
is woke mean and means you give a shit about people.

1107
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.079
And so you know, a lot of the star trek

1108
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:10.639
that we've seen is very empathy empathy based. You know,

1109
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:15.360
there's a lot of kind of characters making personal connections,

1110
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:21.480
people who have alternative identities being raised to a point

1111
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:25.800
where they can be visible, you know. And and this

1112
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:29.159
was kind of like a general upward or I shouldn't

1113
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:32.519
say upward because that shows my own implicit bias, but

1114
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:39.079
like a general trend towards like like I'll say, you know,

1115
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:42.760
post the sixties, like there's there's been a I think

1116
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:47.000
a general trend towards uh, you know, focusing on things

1117
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:51.519
like human rights UH in our country, and focusing on

1118
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:57.159
ensuring that people feel safe, that bullying is no longer

1119
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:00.960
part of the culture. You know, the the things that

1120
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:04.079
I really appreciate because I tend to be an empathetic guy,

1121
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.480
and I, if you want to get my hackles up,

1122
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:09.800
like bully me is the number one We're bully somebody

1123
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:13.719
I care about is the number one way. And so

1124
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.960
you know, I think I think when Chritsman took over,

1125
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:19.280
he kind of saw this societal trend ten years ago,

1126
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:20.719
and he was like, you know what, this is very

1127
01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:23.199
consistent with some of the stuff that we've seen before

1128
01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:27.880
in Star Trek. But you know, even Star Trek the

1129
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.960
Next Generation and Deep Space nine and Voyager all still

1130
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.559
kind of had this like same sort of formula to them.

1131
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:36.320
You know, so what if what if we took that

1132
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:39.039
formula and we tried to, like twenty first centurize it

1133
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:41.440
a little bit. You know, we're going to serialize the shows.

1134
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:46.039
We're gonna like still focus on good character and good story,

1135
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:49.519
but we're going to add like season long peril as

1136
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:52.559
the as the backdrop upon which we will tell all

1137
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:54.559
of these other stories. And that's pretty much what we've

1138
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:57.199
been doing since the beginning of Discovery and now into

1139
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:03.440
into Starfleet Academy. I will say that, you know, I

1140
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:08.079
of course love Discovery. It had its its issues kind

1141
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:10.760
of getting started, you know people, and I think part

1142
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:13.119
of that was just people weren't quite kind of ready

1143
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:15.960
for it, you know, they weren't like, what what does

1144
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.239
Star Trek look like? Almost twenty years after I've seen

1145
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:21.840
new Star Trek, nobody knew the answer to that, right,

1146
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:24.039
so you had to put it's like throwing spaghetti into

1147
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:25.719
the wall and seeing what was going to stick. And

1148
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.599
once that first season of Discovery came out, they started adjusting,

1149
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:34.679
adjusting more, adjusting more, but its ideals kind of stay consistent.

1150
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:38.679
So anyway, I that's all to say that for me,

1151
01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:44.320
Starfleet Academy did resonate with me. But you know, as

1152
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.599
this show started, we saw a big societal shift in

1153
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:52.760
the United States away from things like ensuring other people

1154
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:58.840
were included, or ensuring that equity was actually a possibility

1155
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:03.960
rather than just a qual And you know, now we're

1156
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:07.440
in a different environment. So it's kind of unfortunate that,

1157
01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:09.920
Like I think if Starfleet Academy had come out maybe

1158
01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:13.320
like ten years ago, it could have been very successful.

1159
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.639
I think it would have been the right like political environment.

1160
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:17.840
And if there's anything that I've learned, it's that political

1161
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:23.000
environment matters almost more than anything in a society, like

1162
01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:28.720
the economic trends, the societal trends, the socio economic trends,

1163
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:30.520
which I know I just combined the first two into

1164
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:32.560
a third term there, but I was trying to sound smart.

1165
01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:39.000
You know, they all they all rest upon what happens politically.

1166
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:42.239
And it's true because politics is how we decide the

1167
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:44.039
rules of the society that we want to live in.

1168
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.760
Right so, you know, it's a little bit of a

1169
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.119
shift right now. I would love to see it kind

1170
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:52.399
of like go away and then maybe be revived in

1171
01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:54.560
the future. We can't do that with the same characters.

1172
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:56.960
They age and that sort of stuff. I was really

1173
01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:59.239
hoping for four years just to get the kids out

1174
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:07.119
of college. But you know, here we are. So I personally,

1175
01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:09.079
and I said this right from the beginning, believed that

1176
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:12.000
part of the success of Strange New Worlds, right from

1177
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.000
the get go was that there was a very charismatic

1178
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:18.680
white guy in charge of the ship. And I you know,

1179
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:21.960
it's very familiar. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it,

1180
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:27.279
but I'm definitely noticing that people glommed onto that character

1181
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:30.920
and loved him more than they loved Michael Burnham by

1182
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:33.319
a long shot when he was on Discovery and then

1183
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:36.800
he got his own show. You know, it would be

1184
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:39.680
great if everybody in the world could take a look

1185
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:43.119
at themselves inside without any like internal bias or like

1186
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:46.000
you know, and just kind of like notice what they

1187
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:48.960
what colors their view.

1188
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:49.319
Of the world.

1189
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:51.960
And I won't get on my high horse too much

1190
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:53.920
about that, But I've done a lot of work on that,

1191
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:56.079
and I think that the more work you do on it,

1192
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:58.880
the more you start to realize that shows like Starfleet

1193
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:03.279
Academy really really matter to folks, particularly folks who are

1194
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:10.039
marginalized in society. And to me, that kind of like triples,

1195
01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:13.920
quadruples tenfolds their value. You know, if you can make

1196
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:17.800
somebody who never is seen feel seen, then it's worth

1197
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:20.399
being on TV. But you know, Paul, Paul's right, it's

1198
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:22.680
dollars and cents. So I know, I live in a

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01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.119
fantasy world, but it's fucking dollars and cents. That's what

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01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:25.800
it comes down to.

1201
01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:29.640
Yeah, Yeah, And you know, I always think too, it's

1202
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:33.520
just like, Okay, people are saying, we're giving a very

1203
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:36.560
simplistic identity to the show. Right, it's the woke young

1204
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:38.840
people blah blah blah blah blah. Right, and you know,

1205
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:40.520
all the stuff that's all you here talking about, right,

1206
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:42.479
And I think one of the elements of the show

1207
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:45.680
they didn't really do enough with is the war college, right,

1208
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:48.199
you know, because like we're talking, so much of our

1209
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:50.479
conversation right now tonight is about Okay, we live in

1210
01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:54.319
a very divided society. Right, use the War College to

1211
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:59.640
depict that, right you have. You know, the Academy side

1212
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:03.119
is more leftist, right, more altruistic. The War College is

1213
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:05.399
more like we need money to like fight, fight, fight,

1214
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:09.359
and you could basically tell stories that really reflect what's

1215
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:11.439
going on in our current society and the stakes that

1216
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:14.560
are going on there now, people are, you know, being

1217
01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:18.479
brought into factions and tribalism. If they had done more

1218
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:20.359
with the War College, but they didn't really do anything

1219
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:22.279
with it, I think that was a real missed opportunity.

1220
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:24.439
Maybe we'll see that start to happen in season two.

1221
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:24.840
I don't know.

1222
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:28.840
Well, so here's a question that I have art is

1223
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:33.159
does the show have too does any of these shows

1224
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:37.760
New Discovery, New Strange, New Worlds, New Starfleet Academy Do

1225
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:41.600
they have too much money per episode? Is there too

1226
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:48.279
much stake put into every single episode? Because it's it's whatever,

1227
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:50.920
twelve million dollars an episode, and if you don't completely

1228
01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:54.039
stick the landing, it's twelve million dollars down the drain.

1229
01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:58.039
Would it would it not make more sense to make

1230
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.720
the stories better, make the special effects half as good,

1231
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:03.720
and make the show twice as long.

1232
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:08.199
You'd get my vote, man, I mean you would. I think,

1233
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:12.039
you know, the story and characters has to be number one, right,

1234
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:14.319
And I kind of think that they, you know, for

1235
01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:16.680
the most part, really led with that on this show, right,

1236
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.279
But they had so many characters you had to fleetingly

1237
01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:22.880
run by them. I think that was another problem to you.

1238
01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:25.399
You know, I'm never getting to spend as much time

1239
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:27.560
with Laura Thowkas. I want you to find out anything

1240
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:31.359
about her. She's flying by. I'm getting, you know, quick

1241
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.720
scenes with Holly Hunter. I'm still wondering about to Rema.

1242
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:37.279
It was just very quick. I got invested in all

1243
01:12:37.279 --> 01:12:39.399
these characters, but I never got enough of them. And

1244
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:42.359
because they wanted to keep the ensemble dynamic, right, and

1245
01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:45.279
so there was a real hastiness to that, and I'm

1246
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:48.239
sure that would have settled most TV shows. They don't

1247
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:50.880
really find their footing until the second or third season, right.

1248
01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:53.159
That's been the story of Star Trek, right. I mean

1249
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:56.439
Next Gen didn't really you know, explode until season three,

1250
01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:58.279
but you know, a different world back then, right.

1251
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:01.720
But because of the first season of T and J,

1252
01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:04.439
I was like, oh my goodness, I.

1253
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:06.640
Remember I had a really vitriolic reaction to it. I

1254
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:08.159
was just like it was, you know, that is not

1255
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:10.239
Captain Kirk. And I don't want to understand who is

1256
01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:12.720
this cold cold man. I don't understand it like does

1257
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:14.560
my kids, And there's just like, you know, it was

1258
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:16.600
a million years ago, David. I mean, but I was

1259
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:18.600
just like I was. I was really blindsided by it.

1260
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:20.680
I didn't know what to expect and I was very

1261
01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:23.600
and it took me a few episodes to get it.

1262
01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:25.560
I mean I was my you know, I was in

1263
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:27.439
a younger age and you know what they say about

1264
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:29.680
how your brain isn't fully developed yet, right, and that

1265
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.479
was definitely that was definitely me, you know. And then

1266
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.680
I mean by the time they hit season three, I

1267
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:36.640
was like, this is genius. I mean it was just

1268
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:39.479
you know, there were episodes that made me literally weep,

1269
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:43.760
that were just so well written and so compelling. And

1270
01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:46.720
when he found when Patrick Stewart found that character and

1271
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:48.760
he was just like the moral compass for us all.

1272
01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:50.159
It was just remarkable.

1273
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:53.119
So yeah, can I would love to just very quickly

1274
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:57.600
read something so you know, we're we've mentioned that, uh,

1275
01:13:58.119 --> 01:13:59.840
you know a lot of our fans really really love this,

1276
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:03.199
so I think that we've all seen a lot of comments,

1277
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:05.279
and maybe Jim, you've got some of these prepped already

1278
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:07.960
to read, but I wanted to read this comment that

1279
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:11.159
we got on one of our pages from somebody named

1280
01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:15.720
Aaron mcelnie, and he said sharing something I love about

1281
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:18.920
Starfleet Academy. Episode eight, The Life of the Stars was

1282
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:22.079
my other absolute favorite episode of Starfleet Academy. Not only

1283
01:14:22.119 --> 01:14:24.880
did it bring back the amazing Tilly from Discovery, but

1284
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:27.359
it was also a very emotional episode as the cadets

1285
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.359
navigated the fallout from their training mission which led to

1286
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:33.479
the loss of Bobby, plus being an episode that was

1287
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:37.319
centered a lot around everyone's favorite emh. My favorite moment

1288
01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.760
in this episode was when said doctor finally pushed through

1289
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:44.520
his fear of connecting with someone again. The heartbreaking callback

1290
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:47.520
to when his holographic daughter passed away and Voyager and

1291
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.279
the last impact it had on him really hit home

1292
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:53.760
for me, even more so now that I'm a parent myself.

1293
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:57.720
Sam is malfunctioning and according to our people, is beyond repair,

1294
01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:01.079
but the doctor realizes it's because she was created without

1295
01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:03.880
a past and had no way of coping with difficult

1296
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:07.399
situations in the present. After initially refusing to help, the

1297
01:15:07.479 --> 01:15:11.000
doctor agrees to stay uncask and raise Sam as her father,

1298
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:13.800
giving her the needed history to be able to process

1299
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:17.560
the feelings in the future. The following montage shows him

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01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:20.640
with her throughout all the stages of her childhood and

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01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:23.600
it's just such a heartwarming part of the episode, and

1302
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:26.920
seeing him so happy brought a tear to my eye.

1303
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:33.720
I mean, what other shows kind of elicit like parental

1304
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:37.359
love as you watch an episode, and if you're a parent,

1305
01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:39.640
you know what I'm talking about, right, It's that kind

1306
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:43.720
of love that like is beyond any romantic or any

1307
01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:46.479
colloquial whatever love that you've had in your life. You

1308
01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:48.960
feel it and you're like ooh, and when you tear

1309
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:52.119
up because there's a parental moment in a show that's

1310
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:57.840
quality TV. Yeah, so this show is touching people, regardless

1311
01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:01.399
of what the bots say.

1312
01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:05.840
Well, Starfleet Academy is not a new topic. I can't

1313
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:09.279
believe I'm going to say this, but the greatest Star

1314
01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:11.760
Trek movie ever five.

1315
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:16.880
Almost didn't happen because Harv Bennett wanted to do Starfleet

1316
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:21.039
Academy because Star Trek four was so popular, they made

1317
01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:23.319
so much money and they thought the actors were getting

1318
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.960
old and they wanted to go in a cheaper direction.

1319
01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:29.760
Harve Bennett said, let's do Starfleet Academy. Let's recast everybody.

1320
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:33.079
We'll bring in a younger crew, and we'll do Starfleet Academy.

1321
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.560
And then William Shantner pulled out his card and said, nope,

1322
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:39.279
I get to direct the next movie because it's in

1323
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:44.359
my contract. So Starfleet Academy got shelved. And you know,

1324
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:47.479
I had been talked about ever since nineteen eighty nine,

1325
01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:50.880
and here we are and it's a reality. So you know,

1326
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:55.199
Starfleet Academy has been in the popcorn maker for a

1327
01:16:55.319 --> 01:17:02.159
long time, getting soaked in oil.

1328
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:11.880
Oh okay, thanks for that image.

1329
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:13.479
Yeah popcorn.

1330
01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:17.600
No, I'm good. Thanks, No, no, not right now.

1331
01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:20.720
I won't.

1332
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.359
The school that I worked at, a lot of the

1333
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.479
teachers that I talked to are you know, I can't

1334
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:32.319
believe that Stealthy Academy has been canceled because they thought

1335
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:34.520
it was a, you know, a really great show.

1336
01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:38.119
Being teachers, they can really relate to the show and

1337
01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:41.359
what was going on in the show, and they're really shocked.

1338
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:47.359
That it's gone. These are educators that are watching the show.

1339
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:51.760
So one of them is the vice principal I talked.

1340
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:53.600
I talked to her all the time about Star Trek.

1341
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.119
I'm the Star Trek guy.

1342
01:17:58.000 --> 01:17:59.439
But you know, well, I.

1343
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:01.920
Am curious to hear what David has to say about

1344
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:07.319
all of this. I blame you, David. It's your fall.

1345
01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:10.920
I'm pointing my flash finger at you.

1346
01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:16.119
Let me go get some popcorn first.

1347
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:21.840
So I do agree with a lot of what Paul said,

1348
01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:25.880
what Eric says, and a lot of what everybody else

1349
01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:29.399
said online. And you know, I disagree with a lot

1350
01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:35.800
of other things, especially with the idea that to me,

1351
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:42.520
I loved Star Trek because it resonated to me because

1352
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:46.840
I was struggling, As I had mentioned before, I was

1353
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:50.239
struggling with my identity, trying to figure out who I

1354
01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:54.159
was as I was growing up, and Data was the

1355
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:58.960
very first character I saw on there that I related

1356
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:04.319
to because I, as my friend Eric knows, I'm part robot,

1357
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:10.560
so to me, I'm actually connect I connected with Data

1358
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:13.159
on a level so personal to me that I just

1359
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:14.840
fell in love with it to the point where it

1360
01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:17.000
was just like, Hey, I wanted to be him. I

1361
01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:20.840
wanted to be just like Data. So even though I'm

1362
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:25.439
not completely fully human. But to me, it's just I

1363
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:29.159
fell in love with that because of that situation, and

1364
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:33.880
I do have to kind of disagree with this whole

1365
01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:37.159
idea that Star Trek is supposed to be woke. That's

1366
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:39.359
not what I fell in love with. And to me,

1367
01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:44.920
I'm wondering if there is a language confusion of like

1368
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:48.399
what woke really means because back in the day, you know,

1369
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:51.319
like f had mentioned, it used to mean something completely

1370
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:54.199
different and now it's like, yeah, I just googled it

1371
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:57.199
and I'm like, okay, so that's completely different. But then

1372
01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:01.039
you know, the words change meaning, like back in the day,

1373
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:06.000
gay men happy, right, So world change meaning all the time.

1374
01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:08.239
So to me, I didn't fall in love with Star

1375
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:12.760
Trek because of the way people think that's the way

1376
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:15.760
it's supposed to be. And I'm like, well maybe, but

1377
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:17.880
to me, it's more personal. It's more of a deeper

1378
01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:20.560
level for me. And to me, I was just like,

1379
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:26.600
there was just one part of my life that I

1380
01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:28.840
went through trying to figure out who I was, and

1381
01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:33.600
when I saw Data, I just knew from that point

1382
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:37.840
on because I was struggling, I was just like I

1383
01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:39.439
didn't know what to do with my life. And so

1384
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:42.920
then yeah, in a way, Star Trek kind of saved

1385
01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:49.399
my life almost kind of. So I don't know, I

1386
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.159
actually kind of figured out why. I also don't enjoy

1387
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:58.039
Star Trek Darfleet Academy as much as everybody else. And

1388
01:20:58.119 --> 01:21:00.319
I think I had something to do with what Eric

1389
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.680
mentioned before about the whole idea that you know, it

1390
01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:09.680
connected them on an emotional level. I'm not saying I'm emotional.

1391
01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:12.600
I'm just saying that I just don't enjoy Star Trek

1392
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:17.159
that way. And so when it comes to Starfuled Academy,

1393
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:20.119
I realized a lot of the episodes were really emotional

1394
01:21:20.119 --> 01:21:23.520
to me. I just didn't enjoy it as much. And

1395
01:21:24.119 --> 01:21:27.720
I am more into the character driven story plots, and

1396
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:30.920
you know, a good plot really gets me, and a

1397
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.279
twist at the end is always something that puts the

1398
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:39.399
icing on the cake, so to me, I I have

1399
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:43.560
to agree a little bit with what Paul said though

1400
01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:46.119
when it comes to the money, whoever has the deeper

1401
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:51.039
pockets that make the boats going in a certain direction.

1402
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:57.119
I myself hate politics. I don't like it one bit,

1403
01:21:57.560 --> 01:21:59.479
and it was just left wing right wing in the

1404
01:21:59.479 --> 01:22:02.600
middle an't matter as long as there's a good story,

1405
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:07.920
good characters, something that can pick the interest of you know,

1406
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:12.119
giving people hope and giving people something to look forward

1407
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:15.560
to for the future. That's all I'm there for. And

1408
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:17.960
of course Deep as you guys know, Deep Base nine

1409
01:22:18.159 --> 01:22:20.880
is my favorite series. But now I'm starting to toss

1410
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:24.159
up between Deep Base nine and Enterpride. For some odd reason,

1411
01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:25.920
I'm started to watch some of those and I was like, Wow,

1412
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:27.720
this is pretty good. I can't remember I forgot about this.

1413
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:30.199
I can't believe I forgot about it. Yeah, to me,

1414
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:34.880
I don't know. So to me, this whole idea that

1415
01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:41.319
has been canceled, I'm I wasn't really shocked to hear

1416
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:44.520
about it. I just was shocked that it happened so soon.

1417
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:47.159
But at the same time, I was also shocked that

1418
01:22:47.439 --> 01:22:50.359
Coachman was able to get two seasons in all one,

1419
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:52.640
because I thought you had to see season one first

1420
01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:55.119
before they even go ahead and try to write season two.

1421
01:22:55.479 --> 01:22:57.920
I mean that itself was a risk in my opinion,

1422
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:00.920
But I don't know. Maybe he knew his contract was

1423
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:03.479
going to be over and then he decided to do

1424
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:05.800
two seasons just to get it out there. So maybe

1425
01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:08.239
season two is gonna be like awesome. We don't know,

1426
01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:11.239
but I mean, I I hate to see people get

1427
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:14.920
angry about this, and I feel sorry for the people

1428
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:19.760
who love it because they really enjoyed it. I'm in

1429
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:21.640
the boat with you, guys. You know, I was kind

1430
01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:23.159
of sad. I was kind of hoping for this to

1431
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:26.399
get good. But like I said, I hope season two

1432
01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:29.600
is awesome. And like what Paul said, you know, he

1433
01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:33.279
wanted to see more Laura Talk and whatever her name was,

1434
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:36.960
And just like me too, I wanted to see more

1435
01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:39.760
of her. I wanted to know what her background was.

1436
01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:43.760
I wanted to know what her story way basically, and

1437
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:46.800
it was just like the more I saw less of her,

1438
01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:48.920
the more I kind of hated the show. I was like,

1439
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:53.520
it's just I don't know, it's kind of weird. But

1440
01:23:54.159 --> 01:24:00.880
I don't hate the show, but I don't have to

1441
01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:03.680
sell I just didn't enjoy it. You know, It's just

1442
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:08.239
just my opinion, but it just didn't resonate with me.

1443
01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:09.279
I want to point something.

1444
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:11.479
I want to point something out that you said that

1445
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:14.520
I think I find fascinating.

1446
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:20.239
What you were talking and what you were talking about about.

1447
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:26.000
Data is is you recognizing the wokeness of Star Trek

1448
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.520
and identifying with it on a level that you're not

1449
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:33.000
even aware that you're identifying with because that's what Data

1450
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:35.479
was there for, just like Spock was on TOS for

1451
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:36.439
that same reason.

1452
01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:41.279
And you're identifying with this character that would be considered

1453
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:45.520
woke and you're not even realizing it, and you know,

1454
01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:49.239
and that's what attracted you to the show. And I

1455
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:54.600
think that's that's an interesting twist that you don't like

1456
01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:57.680
the wokeness or or think the wokeness should be in

1457
01:24:57.760 --> 01:24:59.920
Star Trek and you just want to see good storytelling

1458
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:05.319
that you're identifying with a character that's there on the

1459
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:07.359
show to be woke.

1460
01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:13.760
I just I find that interesting. I mean question, you

1461
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:16.760
know that Star Trek is supposed to do.

1462
01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.000
It's supposed to make you challenge your thoughts and look

1463
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:21.079
at things from a different.

1464
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.119
No, I understand that. I just wanted to ask you

1465
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:28.399
a quick question. What what do you think woke means?

1466
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:30.800
So to you, I'm just curious.

1467
01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:36.439
I think the problem, man, is that it's been Yeah,

1468
01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.000
I think that it means something different, Like it's polarized. Man.

1469
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:43.319
The word has been so weaponized now that people in

1470
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:46.880
one hemisphere believe one thing. They believe it's a good thing, right,

1471
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.600
and it's positive, right, and everyone else on the other

1472
01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:50.439
side believes it's.

1473
01:25:50.359 --> 01:25:53.079
A horrific thing and the threat right.

1474
01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:56.680
And the problem is, if you used an actual synonym

1475
01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:00.119
for woke, right, it's an enlightenment, right, and you so

1476
01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:03.800
Star Trek is enlightened, right, people would not be objecting

1477
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:05.880
to it as much. They would be like, yeah, okay, yeah,

1478
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:08.560
I get it, I see that. But because this word

1479
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.039
has been so weaponized by so many people and the

1480
01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:14.199
course of their indoctrinating and now as a negative connotation,

1481
01:26:14.279 --> 01:26:16.600
they don't know what it means. It just means it's

1482
01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:21.439
a way they can identify their enemies. And that's what

1483
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:24.079
happens when we start weaponizing stuff. Man, it's just but

1484
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:29.159
it should mean enlightenment by definition, is what it means.

1485
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:33.079
That like that I used to not care about other things.

1486
01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:36.039
Now I care about my fellow man and the planet,

1487
01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:39.760
and I want a better future. That is the only real,

1488
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:44.760
legitimate definition of what being woke should be. But it

1489
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:50.199
became what it encompassed everything that the darker side of

1490
01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:53.079
you know, the alt right, wanted to represent as their

1491
01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:57.880
enemies trans people, gay people, gay marriage, anything that this

1492
01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:00.960
didn't line up with the they feel as a threat

1493
01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:03.279
and helps them garner their votes from those who have

1494
01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:04.119
less awareness.

1495
01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:08.840
So it's said, yep, I Well, said Paul.

1496
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:11.840
Labels are bad. Labels are bad. I mean, it's just

1497
01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:14.319
we keep coming up with it. But it was just,

1498
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:17.119
you know, there's a lot of bad actors who are

1499
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:20.640
using things like language now to you know, divide us

1500
01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:22.840
and weaponize us, and we better stop it, you know.

1501
01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:25.800
I mean, it's just I don't want to have enemies.

1502
01:27:26.039 --> 01:27:29.439
I do not. It's it takes a lot of energy

1503
01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:32.239
that I could be using towards more productive things, right,

1504
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:36.159
But it's crazy.

1505
01:27:36.880 --> 01:27:40.760
We've yet to hear from you chall Well.

1506
01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:45.319
When I heard that Academy was canceled, I started thinking

1507
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:50.560
back in Star Trek history. I almost wrote something down, just.

1508
01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:52.239
Didn't decide not to write it down.

1509
01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:57.000
But as Paul said, okay, Next Generation didn't really do

1510
01:27:57.079 --> 01:28:01.800
a kick, didn't really kick off until third season. Too

1511
01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:05.000
many people, and Jim Will attested this from the conventions,

1512
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:09.840
you heard people didn't like the Next Generation crew. It

1513
01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:15.159
wasn't it wasn't the original cast. They brought in brand

1514
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:19.760
new cast members. They just didn't like what they were

1515
01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:24.119
doing with Star Trek and you think, oh, everybody likes

1516
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:29.520
Legacy Star Legacy Star Trek. But okay, but they didn't

1517
01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:33.600
like Star Trek because it wasn't the original cast. They

1518
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:37.560
had a robot on there, they had a fifteen year

1519
01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:41.159
old on the ship. They didn't like what they were

1520
01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:43.239
doing with and they think, oh, well, everybody liked the

1521
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:47.479
rest of the series. Well let me see DS nine. Well,

1522
01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:50.680
DS nine is not real Star Trek. It's not on

1523
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:54.760
a ship. They're in a space station. They're not traveling places.

1524
01:28:54.840 --> 01:29:01.199
It's not Star Trek. Voyager was not Star Trek. It

1525
01:29:01.239 --> 01:29:05.039
was captained by a woman. Oh how woke is that

1526
01:29:05.119 --> 01:29:12.039
to have a woman captain and some of the crew

1527
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:18.800
they had on there, they had a Digital Doctor Enterprise

1528
01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:23.960
with disliked because oh it broke canon. It wasn't it

1529
01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:26.680
didn't give us the real view because we're going before

1530
01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:33.079
Captain Kirk. And yet all these shows they disliked because

1531
01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:36.079
it wasn't what they called real Star Trek. Now they're

1532
01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:39.199
saying Academy is not real Star Trek. How do we

1533
01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:43.560
define what real Star Trek is? When many shows starred

1534
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:46.359
off with and people hated them because they didn't like

1535
01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:52.039
what they didn't like what the they represented. People didn't like,

1536
01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:58.600
people didn't like lower decks. It's animation, it's a comedy.

1537
01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:01.920
Star Trek has a comedy. Star Trek's not supposed to

1538
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:10.039
be funny. Discovery, Oh, one of the things wrought off

1539
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:12.760
the beat. They hate Discovery because I hate the Klingons.

1540
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:18.920
Oh no, these aren't. These aren't legacy Klingons. Oh I can't.

1541
01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:22.600
We can't do that. They're not the Klingons from the

1542
01:30:22.720 --> 01:30:24.279
ninet the eighties and nineties.

1543
01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:26.560
We can't do that.

1544
01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:33.199
All these shows had so many negative connotations because what

1545
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:37.359
people didn't like and what their definition of Star Trek was.

1546
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:45.920
I think we've lost track of what Star Trek is. Yes,

1547
01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:49.479
Academy is not. They're not going out traveling the universe,

1548
01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:53.680
traveling space trying to find stuff. They're trying to learn

1549
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:57.079
what it's like to be a Star Trek officer, what

1550
01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:03.760
it's like to be part of Starfleet. We didn't really

1551
01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:06.319
focus a whole lot on what store Fleet was like

1552
01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:10.680
when Wesley was there. We got it for a couple episodes.

1553
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:14.039
He got in trouble in one episode. We never really

1554
01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:18.239
researched what it was like there. I thought it was

1555
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:20.319
a great idea that we could sit back and see

1556
01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:24.079
what actual was going on at Starfleet Academy, what it's

1557
01:31:24.199 --> 01:31:29.920
like to be a cadet. But the fan just didn't

1558
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:35.439
want to see that part of it. I think part

1559
01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:37.760
of the wokeness just is the fact it's like, Okay,

1560
01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:44.760
it's woke because oh there's adversity Discovery. Oh you had

1561
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:47.399
gay crew members. Oh we can't have gay crew members

1562
01:31:47.399 --> 01:31:52.600
at star Trek. The future isn't supposed to have diversity

1563
01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:57.720
like that. Oh Mary Wiseman, Oh she's a large woman.

1564
01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:03.279
Oh no, we can't have that. I'm sorry. Telly was

1565
01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:07.560
one of my favorite characters in Discovery. I liked where

1566
01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:12.600
the character was going. I liked when she came back

1567
01:32:13.399 --> 01:32:16.920
the episode. Eric mentioned that episode. It wasn't just the

1568
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:20.840
fact that doctor in it. They went and looked at

1569
01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:25.199
what a piece of Broadway, a Broadway play was like,

1570
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:27.920
and how you can take it Broadway play and make

1571
01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:34.079
it real, put yourself in that position and feel how

1572
01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:40.119
alive a play is, and how you can understand how

1573
01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:44.600
your life goes by looking at a play. They did

1574
01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:49.039
some great job with some Ofy's episodes, and I think

1575
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:51.600
it's just the fact that we've got too much politics

1576
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:54.680
going on and too many things going on that we

1577
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:57.640
just aren't having. We just maybe we won't deserve a

1578
01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:03.159
good Star Trek anymore. I mean, we need back off

1579
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:06.760
from Star Trek like we did after Enterprise and take

1580
01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:13.079
a break because we're just not ready for it. But

1581
01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:15.600
I think we got some birthdays we want to hit

1582
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:22.880
before the show ends, all right, So.

1583
01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:26.560
There you have it. Anybody want to add anything before

1584
01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:27.159
we move on through?

1585
01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:32.119
Yeah, just real quick. I just think there was there

1586
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:38.239
was that that shift in you know, leadership, whatever you

1587
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:41.800
want to call it, from when Starfleet Academy was first

1588
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:45.920
brought out and then the second season and then the

1589
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:50.359
powers that be were either decided or were told to

1590
01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:54.079
hate it and to axit. So it just was because

1591
01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:57.800
that whole thing with them not waiting the normal time

1592
01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:01.319
for the numbers to come out is just hugely suspicious.

1593
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:05.960
That's just that's really weird. But yeah, I think I

1594
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:09.960
think we have to I think things have to get

1595
01:34:09.960 --> 01:34:13.600
more on an even keel instead of how we're just

1596
01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:16.680
you know, gone all. I don't know, I feel like

1597
01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:19.720
we're kind of living we're living the burn, we're living

1598
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:22.760
the dominion war. We're living. You know, a lot, a

1599
01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:25.720
lot of things are irrelevant, and I had to take

1600
01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:29.119
a break from from DS nine because there's too much

1601
01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:30.920
in it. I mean, it was from thirty years ago.

1602
01:34:31.039 --> 01:34:33.239
And I was talking with with the you know, some

1603
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:36.000
of the people at the con and they were agreeing

1604
01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:39.640
how they they recognize how relevant their stuff is. They

1605
01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:44.079
also do not forget how harsh fans were when they said, oh,

1606
01:34:44.119 --> 01:34:46.079
this is this is a terrible show. You're on a

1607
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:49.920
you're on a space station. How lame is that? And

1608
01:34:49.960 --> 01:34:52.159
then it wound up becoming you know, it took them

1609
01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:56.039
a while to gain their footing, so to speak. But

1610
01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.199
I'm hoping that when we get back on an even

1611
01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:02.760
keel again, and we will because evil will not prevail.

1612
01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:07.039
And I think that just like you know they uh

1613
01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:13.079
Federation wins the you know, they defeat the dominion, I

1614
01:35:13.119 --> 01:35:15.079
think that too will happen. Then we have to get

1615
01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:18.119
back on even keel, and I think at some point

1616
01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:23.199
we will be able to have the Star Trek that

1617
01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:26.680
we you know, all know and that that we need.

1618
01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:30.800
So you and Charles make a great point though, It's

1619
01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:33.479
just it's really you know, kind of right with irony, Right,

1620
01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:36.800
we're supposed to be championing all the diversity and things

1621
01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:39.199
that we love and you know, and all of the

1622
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:43.760
idach values. Yet yet historically, as Charles has taken us through, right,

1623
01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:49.159
I mean consistently, we initially are resistant to anything that's new.

1624
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.800
But it's like, that's not against my definition. I don't

1625
01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:55.039
like that, and that there were these entrenched perspectives that

1626
01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:59.079
just seem to keep every new manifestation there's that initial

1627
01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:02.760
like you know, the dinosaurs feel threatened by the warm

1628
01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:05.720
blooded animals. I don't like it right that weird things.

1629
01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:09.520
So hopefully with a little time we can get past

1630
01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:09.840
all that.

1631
01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:10.319
I hope.

1632
01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:11.079
Yeah.

1633
01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:13.840
But the last thing that I just want to say

1634
01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:18.159
about it before we go to birthdays is that what

1635
01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:21.800
we have talked about tonight is the amount of tearing

1636
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:26.600
down that people have done of Starfleet Academy and various

1637
01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:30.680
iterations of new star Trek. What we haven't heard from

1638
01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:33.000
most of the folks who are doing the tearing down

1639
01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:37.399
are what type of star Trek do you want in

1640
01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:41.039
the place of what you think is not real star Trek?

1641
01:36:41.800 --> 01:36:46.119
And anybody who knows anything about building and tearing things down,

1642
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:49.880
it's way way easier to destroy things than it is

1643
01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:54.479
to build new things. And so if anybody out there,

1644
01:36:55.359 --> 01:37:00.000
you know David included, anybody who says Starfleet Academy didn't

1645
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:04.199
resonate with me, if you can produce some really cool

1646
01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:08.720
ideas as to what would resonate with you, I think

1647
01:37:08.760 --> 01:37:10.520
I would love to hear those. I would love to

1648
01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:14.399
hear why. Like we've all expressed our own opinions, and

1649
01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:16.760
I get that, right, that's one side of the thing.

1650
01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:20.720
If you don't like Starfleet Academy, what type of star

1651
01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:23.479
Trek do you want to see? What resonates with you?

1652
01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:25.960
David has said so far that star Trek resonates with

1653
01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:28.279
him because it has this kind of nostalgic value to

1654
01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:32.640
a certain point in his life. That's great. That doesn't

1655
01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:35.720
talk about the future. What sort of new stuff in

1656
01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:37.479
the future do you want to see? If this isn't

1657
01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:39.439
the right stuff. And this is not a time to

1658
01:37:39.479 --> 01:37:42.079
answer that question, but I would love to know more

1659
01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:45.479
from folks who are on the opposite side of this.

1660
01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:48.399
If you've got great ideas, man, let's hear them.

1661
01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:51.279
Sure cling on Game of Thrones, I'll say it again,

1662
01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:55.640
but I would watch the shit out of that. The

1663
01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:57.479
one last thing I just want to mention for folks,

1664
01:37:57.560 --> 01:37:59.880
is just throw out real super quick for twenty seconds.

1665
01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:04.159
April fifteenth. This month, our good friends at IDW Publishing

1666
01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:08.239
are going to be continuing Starfleet Academy with a new

1667
01:38:08.279 --> 01:38:14.520
five issue comics series. Starfleet Academy lost contact, so support

1668
01:38:14.840 --> 01:38:19.920
IDW's having a fresh take on these characters beyond what's

1669
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:23.520
possible to do on the show. So I think hopefully

1670
01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:25.520
that will be a long running series and we'll get more.

1671
01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:31.880
Well, you know, it pains me that Stuffy Academy has

1672
01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:35.880
been canceled, but in the great words of Captain Kirk.

1673
01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:36.840
I need my pain.

1674
01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:41.039
And from Startrek five, the Final Frontier, the best starts

1675
01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:45.079
with movie ever. And with that being said, it's time

1676
01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:47.720
to move on to our Sci five birthdays.

1677
01:38:48.119 --> 01:39:08.880
Roll the tape David Akay decade.

1678
01:39:11.479 --> 01:39:15.079
That was not a song, all right, guys, This week

1679
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:20.560
we have some awesome sci fi birthdays, some real, real awesome,

1680
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.039
awesome sci fi people to talk about, and we always

1681
01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:25.479
start off with those members of our sci fi famili who,

1682
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:27.560
sadly enough, are no longer with us.

1683
01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:29.199
And for that returned to Eric.

1684
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.079
Did we start this week with actor John Stewart, the

1685
01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:37.239
first actor to portray Alexander Rojenko in the Next Generation's

1686
01:39:37.239 --> 01:39:40.840
four season episode Reunion. Of course, for the remainder of

1687
01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:44.159
the TNG run, this character would instead be played by

1688
01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:48.119
Brian Bonsaal. John Stewart had a few guest appearances on

1689
01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:51.439
various TV shows in the eighties and nineties, but probably

1690
01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:54.520
received the most recognition as an actor for playing Quentin

1691
01:39:54.640 --> 01:39:58.439
Kelly on the situation comedy series Grace under Fire, which

1692
01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:01.439
was actually pretty funny, Yes it was. I loved that show,

1693
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:04.039
enjoyed that show quite a much, hand a lot.

1694
01:40:06.199 --> 01:40:06.359
So.

1695
01:40:06.479 --> 01:40:09.239
Stewart did some acting in the late nineties, and then

1696
01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:10.960
he moved to Denver in two thousand and three, where

1697
01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:13.279
he formed the band called the Soda Pop Kids, and

1698
01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:16.640
in twenty thirteen the group relocated to Portland, Oregon, where

1699
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:20.960
he became known locally as Johnny p. Jeules and when

1700
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.159
the Soda Pop Kids disbanded in two thousand and nine,

1701
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:26.479
he went under play with other projects and was the

1702
01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:30.640
punk including the punk band Problems, which is actually a

1703
01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:33.920
what's it called when you have a period? His words,

1704
01:40:34.199 --> 01:40:38.760
it's like a I can't remember the word, a shorting

1705
01:40:39.359 --> 01:40:41.239
a word that's made out of a bunch of other

1706
01:40:41.359 --> 01:40:46.119
things anyway, band, that's the word I couldn't think of.

1707
01:40:46.199 --> 01:40:49.000
Thank you Paul a punk band called Problems prior to

1708
01:40:49.039 --> 01:40:52.760
his death. So yeah, thank you John Stewart for your

1709
01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:55.760
contributions to both Star Trek and the punk rock scene

1710
01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:59.760
in Portland. We appreciate you. Happy birthday as well to

1711
01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:03.760
any Worshing, the American actress who played Leanna in the

1712
01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:08.159
Enterprise first season episode Oasis, which marked her television debut,

1713
01:41:08.760 --> 01:41:11.680
and she also then later played the board queen in

1714
01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:14.840
the second season of Star Trek Picard. Unfortunately, we lost

1715
01:41:14.920 --> 01:41:17.479
Annie way way too young. She was only forty five

1716
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:20.359
years old when we lost her in twenty twenty three.

1717
01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:23.520
She's perhaps best known for playing the FBI agent Renee

1718
01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:26.199
Walker during the seventh and eighth seasons of the Fox

1719
01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:29.920
Network television series twenty four, which I will admit that

1720
01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:33.720
I enjoyed quite a bit. And after her appearance on Enterprise,

1721
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:36.399
she made guest appearances on other television shows such as

1722
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:39.399
Birds of Prey, Frasier e Ring, and a small role

1723
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:44.039
in the two thousand and three film Bruce Almighty. Annie

1724
01:41:44.039 --> 01:41:47.680
Wishing lost to cancer, but her illness was kept a

1725
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:50.439
secret and she continued to work, including during her time

1726
01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:54.000
on Picard, until we lost her in twenty twenty three.

1727
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:57.760
So happy birthday and lots of love and thanks going

1728
01:41:57.800 --> 01:42:02.039
out to Annie Worshing for her Star Trek contribution. Happy birthday,

1729
01:42:02.039 --> 01:42:05.359
as well to Ron Norman Sobel, the actor who played

1730
01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:08.680
wyatt ierp in the twos third season episode Specter of

1731
01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:12.640
the Gun. Ron enlisted in the Army in nineteen forty

1732
01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:15.479
six and served for two years in the eleventh Airborne Division,

1733
01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:19.079
spending a year in Japan and finally being discharged nineteen

1734
01:42:19.159 --> 01:42:22.479
fifty five. He had kind of, you know, justed a

1735
01:42:22.479 --> 01:42:26.039
few small roles along the way. He was in True

1736
01:42:26.039 --> 01:42:28.960
brit with John Wayne, which of course is an extremely

1737
01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:33.319
famous movie. Other films he was in included nineteen sixty

1738
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:38.640
one's Gun Fight, sixty five's The Cincinnati Kid, nineteen seventy Chisholm,

1739
01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:41.800
seventy three, Papillion, and nineteen eighty two The Best within

1740
01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:45.399
plenty of Westerns in there. His last film role was

1741
01:42:45.439 --> 01:42:48.319
an uncredited appearance as a judge in the popular comedy

1742
01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:56.199
Deuce Bigelow Male Jiggaloo. So thanks Ron for both your

1743
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:01.680
Star Trek contributions as well as your slightly CD contribution.

1744
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:06.119
Sweet appreciate that happy birthday as well to the actress

1745
01:43:06.119 --> 01:43:10.079
Sharon Acker. She of course is Canadian and played Odonna

1746
01:43:10.199 --> 01:43:13.199
in the TOS third season episode The Mark of Gideon.

1747
01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:16.800
She was a regular on the soap opera Executive Suite

1748
01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:21.079
from nineteen seventy six to nineteen seventy seven. Also appeared

1749
01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:25.000
in Mission Impossible, Gun Smoke, Barnaby Jones, you name it.

1750
01:43:25.039 --> 01:43:27.279
If it was a crime drama back in the seventies,

1751
01:43:27.359 --> 01:43:29.399
she was on it. She was also on a bunch

1752
01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:32.159
of those TV movies that you've heard of from that era.

1753
01:43:34.399 --> 01:43:39.880
She was also in nineteen eighties Galactica Discovers Earth three

1754
01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:44.479
part pilot of Galactica nineteen eighty working of course with

1755
01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:46.880
John Colicos, So that's pretty cool. And she was in

1756
01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:49.159
the movie Point Blank, which is kind of one of

1757
01:43:49.159 --> 01:43:51.880
those cool movies from the sixties that I think if

1758
01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:53.720
you haven't seen it, you need to see it. So

1759
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:56.279
Sharon Acker, thank you so much for your Star Trek

1760
01:43:56.279 --> 01:43:58.960
contributions also lost back in twenty twenty three, but she

1761
01:43:59.079 --> 01:44:03.199
was eighty seven years lived a nice long life. Happy

1762
01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:05.960
birthday as well to Grace Lee Whitney, The American actress

1763
01:44:05.960 --> 01:44:08.760
and entertainer, best known for her portrayal of Yeoman Janis

1764
01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:13.079
Rand in the original series. Whitney's character was originally intended

1765
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:15.359
to be a major part of the series, but she

1766
01:44:15.479 --> 01:44:19.600
was written out after eight episodes. What's up with that?

1767
01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:22.920
The exact reason for that was uncertain, but she did

1768
01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:27.720
struggle internally with some stuff. You could look it up

1769
01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:30.880
if you want to learn more. But then later, you know,

1770
01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:34.239
kind of had this resurgence as somebody who went to

1771
01:44:34.279 --> 01:44:37.000
the conventions and really engaged with fans and did that

1772
01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:40.239
kind of stuff. So I love her story because it

1773
01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:42.800
was kind of like she was there and she disappeared,

1774
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:47.600
and she sort of came back. She returned for her

1775
01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:50.479
role as Yeoman Ran and several cameo appearances in the

1776
01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:53.000
Star Trek movies, and she was also on the Star

1777
01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:57.279
Trek Voyage or episode Flashback. Retained an active interest in

1778
01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:00.760
Star Trek fandom, appearing in several of the Fans films

1779
01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:05.199
as well. Interestingly, she worked with Jeffrey Hunter not just

1780
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:07.520
in Star Trek, but also in The Man from Galveston

1781
01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:11.600
from nineteen sixty three and plenty of other stuff. On

1782
01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:14.600
her IMDb page, So thank you so much. To Grace

1783
01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:17.119
Lee Whitney, We miss you so much. Lost back in

1784
01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:21.399
twenty fifteen at the age of eighty five years old. Yeah,

1785
01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:23.399
she'd be one hundred in just a couple of years. Here,

1786
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:27.159
Happy birthday, and last, but not least, we diverged just

1787
01:45:27.319 --> 01:45:29.199
a little bit away from Star Trek and we say

1788
01:45:29.199 --> 01:45:33.760
happy birthday this week to Sir Alec Guinness. Yes, that

1789
01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:36.479
Alec guinnis. He's the English actor of stage and screen,

1790
01:45:37.039 --> 01:45:40.720
his career spanning over sixty years. Were of course celebrating

1791
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.680
him as the originator of the role of Obi Wan

1792
01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:47.119
Kenobi in the original Star Wars trilogy episodes four, five,

1793
01:45:47.159 --> 01:45:51.239
and six, for which he received Academy Award nominations for

1794
01:45:51.279 --> 01:45:55.720
his Best Supporting Actor role. He's also best known for

1795
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:59.560
his other screenworks, including starring roles in several of the

1796
01:45:59.560 --> 01:46:02.920
Ealing comedies between nineteen forty nine and nineteen fifty seven.

1797
01:46:03.359 --> 01:46:05.479
If you don't know about those, we're talking about movies

1798
01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:08.920
like Kine Hearts and Coronetts from forty nine. His Oscar

1799
01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:13.039
nominated turn as bank clerk turned bullion robber in The

1800
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:16.239
Lavender Hill Mob From nineteen fifty one, he was an

1801
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:18.600
inventor who Never gives up in The Man with the

1802
01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:21.520
White Suit, and he of course was one of the

1803
01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:24.680
five odd Ball criminals planning a bank robbery in The

1804
01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:29.199
Lady Killers from nineteen fifty five. His six collaborations over

1805
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:33.880
thirty eight years with director David Lean included Guinness winning

1806
01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:37.359
an Academy Award for the role of Lieutenant Colonel Nicholson

1807
01:46:37.800 --> 01:46:41.359
in The Bridge on the River Kwhy from nineteen fifty seven.

1808
01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:44.560
So many other aspects of this man's career that we

1809
01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:47.720
could discuss if we really wanted to dig into it,

1810
01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:51.920
but suffice to say that in nineteen fifty nine he

1811
01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:55.439
was knighted by Queen Elizabeth IID for his service to

1812
01:46:55.479 --> 01:46:58.760
the arts, and in nineteen eighty he received the Academy

1813
01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:04.840
Honorary Award for Lifetime Achievement. Wow, and that's just the

1814
01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:07.279
start of it, right lost back in the year two thousand.

1815
01:47:07.399 --> 01:47:10.399
Unfortunately we've missed him for twenty almost twenty six years,

1816
01:47:10.399 --> 01:47:13.279
twenty five plus years. Sir Alec Guinnis would have had

1817
01:47:13.279 --> 01:47:17.680
a birthday today, April second, in the year nineteen fourteen,

1818
01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:19.159
so he would have been one hundred and two years

1819
01:47:19.159 --> 01:47:22.119
old today. Happy birthday, Alecinnis and that does it for

1820
01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:25.000
our remembrances. So I'm going to pass this forming birthday

1821
01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:26.760
candle on my good friend v.

1822
01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:29.239
All Right, thank you so much.

1823
01:47:29.359 --> 01:47:29.600
Eric.

1824
01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:35.199
Happy birthday goes out to Ray Reinhart. He played Admiral

1825
01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:41.000
Aaron in TNG first season episode Conspiracy and Professor Towen

1826
01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:47.560
Wren and The Voyager first season episode ex post Facto. Next,

1827
01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:53.800
Happy Birthday to Orla Brady. She was an Irish actress

1828
01:47:54.399 --> 01:47:59.399
who played Laris in Oh, just a season so I

1829
01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:02.840
don't know. And then McCart okay, all right, thank you,

1830
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:05.119
Well that's what I thought, but that was didn't want

1831
01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:07.560
to just jump in and say that. And then to

1832
01:48:07.720 --> 01:48:11.199
Lynn in season two of Star Trek Picard and then

1833
01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:15.359
returned as a guest actress in the first episode of

1834
01:48:15.399 --> 01:48:21.520
the third season. Alrighty, Happy birthday to somebody with a

1835
01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:29.279
lot of names. Christophe Guy Dennis Christopher Lambert American born

1836
01:48:29.520 --> 01:48:33.000
French actor who has appeared in American as well as

1837
01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:37.239
French and other European productions. He is best known for

1838
01:48:37.279 --> 01:48:41.720
his role as Connor McLeod or simply the Highlander from

1839
01:48:41.720 --> 01:48:46.800
the movie and subsequent movie franchise series of the same name.

1840
01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:51.920
There can be only one.

1841
01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:55.079
That's okay, that's good.

1842
01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:58.760
He had. Actually, my favorite line from that movie is

1843
01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:01.359
the one where somebody ask him where he's from and

1844
01:49:01.439 --> 01:49:04.119
he's like, lots of different places, but he says it

1845
01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:06.279
with that weird accent that he's gotten. You can hear

1846
01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:07.680
like five languages.

1847
01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:10.960
Oh that's hilarious. That's great, that's funny.

1848
01:49:12.119 --> 01:49:12.479
All right.

1849
01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:16.920
Next, Happy Birthday goes out to Kenrick Green. He played

1850
01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:21.640
Mike Burnham, the father of Michael Burnham, and the Discovery

1851
01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:27.159
episode Perpetual Infinity. He also voiced Mike Burnham on Star

1852
01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:31.119
Trek Short Treks episode The Girl Who Made the Stars.

1853
01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:37.199
Green's wife Soniqua Martin Green, plays his character's daughter in

1854
01:49:37.279 --> 01:49:41.760
the show. That's interesting because I just got into Discovery.

1855
01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:45.680
Oh my god, I jumped into I forget what episode.

1856
01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:52.960
It's right after Michael Burnham is basically commits whatever she

1857
01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:56.960
does and gets her time. Yes, thank you, but I

1858
01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:00.880
am so I am so tired from today. Yes, thank you,

1859
01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:03.239
thank you. You helped me. You will help me with

1860
01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:10.520
my words I can't word at a certain time. Yeah,

1861
01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:13.520
so anyway, Yeah, it's it's really I and I love

1862
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:17.399
the early awkwardness of Tilly when she's trying to when

1863
01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:20.159
she's talking with I said, oh, well, you know, talking

1864
01:50:20.199 --> 01:50:23.199
about Michael Burnham, but you're not the same Michael Burnham.

1865
01:50:23.399 --> 01:50:26.520
And yeah, I said, well, had never heard of a

1866
01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:28.840
woman called Michael. And then she does, I'm going to

1867
01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:33.000
call you Mickey. It's like, no, you're not. That wasn't great.

1868
01:50:33.560 --> 01:50:36.680
That was hilarious. That was that was great. But anyway,

1869
01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:40.119
so yes, I'm a new fan of Discovery. So there

1870
01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:46.520
you go. Next. Jacqueline Joan Kim. She played Ensign Doma

1871
01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:51.000
Sulu in Star Trek Generations U and I think that's

1872
01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:53.399
when Kirk said, when did Sulu have time to have

1873
01:50:53.439 --> 01:50:58.840
a family. She's perhaps best known as Lao Ma on

1874
01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:03.600
Zena War Your Princess. Next Happy Birthday goes out to

1875
01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:09.520
Adrian Holmes. He played Admiral Robert April in Strange New Worlds.

1876
01:51:10.279 --> 01:51:15.319
Born in Wales Too. I was going to say, Bajoran parents.

1877
01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:20.920
Uh that's what That's what my brain read. Sure, let's

1878
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:27.079
go with that. Uh sure, Hey, if Jim can make

1879
01:51:27.159 --> 01:51:32.800
up or you know, do stuff, I can sure. Anyway.

1880
01:51:33.079 --> 01:51:39.520
Oh baha baha bah. I can't say anyway, No, it's

1881
01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:43.760
b a b A j A na parents. Yeah, but

1882
01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:49.039
I raly no, but yeah, but that's what my brain saw.

1883
01:51:49.159 --> 01:51:53.960
But Joran, because you get to the next anyway, all right,

1884
01:51:54.039 --> 01:51:58.239
but uh moved to Vancouver, Canada when with his family

1885
01:51:58.279 --> 01:52:01.199
when he was five years old. He's best known as

1886
01:52:01.279 --> 01:52:07.439
Boss Quatt on Smallville. Next. Happy birthday to Gideon Adlin.

1887
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:11.920
The actress who voiced Ensign Howebold in the l D

1888
01:52:12.119 --> 01:52:17.159
D LDD fourth season. Oh sorry, Lower Decks. Okay, if

1889
01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:21.359
you just say ld sorry Lower Techs season episode Empatho

1890
01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:25.960
empathological Fallacies. I said that word. Yeah. She's the daughter

1891
01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:31.600
of Pamela Sigal. Oh okay, who played OG and TNG

1892
01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:36.640
who watches the Watchers that named Pamela Cigal. I know

1893
01:52:36.760 --> 01:52:39.800
that name anyway. Last, but not least, we certainly know

1894
01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:45.039
this name. Marina Curtis the English American actress best known

1895
01:52:45.119 --> 01:52:50.760
for playing counselor Deanna Troy on TNG. She later played

1896
01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:53.239
the role in four Star Trek films, as well as

1897
01:52:53.319 --> 01:52:59.279
episodes of Voyager, the series finale of Enterprise, seasons of Picard,

1898
01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:03.359
an episode of Lower Decks, and she was also in

1899
01:53:03.439 --> 01:53:07.159
an episode of Stargate where she had what some might

1900
01:53:07.439 --> 01:53:12.399
say a questionable Russian accent if you saw that anyway.

1901
01:53:12.479 --> 01:53:15.680
All right, So the flaming birthday candle goes over to Paul.

1902
01:53:17.359 --> 01:53:23.039
Thank you be all right, colonels, Let's continue, okay. Happy

1903
01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:26.399
birthday to Elizabeth Mitchell, who received a Primetime Emmy Award

1904
01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:29.560
nomination for her role as Juliette Burke on the ABC

1905
01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:33.800
mystery drama series Lost. She also had lead roles in

1906
01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:37.439
the television series V Revolution, Dead of Summer and The

1907
01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:40.800
Santa Clauses, for which she received Children's Family Emmy Award nomination.

1908
01:53:41.279 --> 01:53:44.079
She had recurring roles Once upon a Time and memorably

1909
01:53:44.239 --> 01:53:48.840
in the Expanse which we were discussing earlier. So terrific actress.

1910
01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:53.199
Happy birthday, Elizabeth Mitchell. Happy birthday to Melvine Sayesar Belly,

1911
01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:58.359
credited as Says Belly, professional attorney and one time child

1912
01:53:58.399 --> 01:54:02.760
actor who played Steve Oak in the original series episode

1913
01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:09.760
Infamously and the Children Shall Lead, son of Melvin Belli,

1914
01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:14.640
a legendary attorney also who played Gorgon in that infamous

1915
01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:18.880
episode of which we will speak no further. Happy birthday,

1916
01:54:19.119 --> 01:54:23.000
Minor Lolkin, actor who played Bello or Teas in the

1917
01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:26.279
third season of Star Trek's strange New worlds. I believe

1918
01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:28.079
it should be Beto or is that just a very

1919
01:54:28.119 --> 01:54:30.640
tiny tea? We got to work on the fonts on

1920
01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:35.079
this show, Beto Ortegas, Yes, there we go. Okay, moving on,

1921
01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:40.479
Sorry about that, Minorthpologies, we're all very tired and very punchy.

1922
01:54:41.760 --> 01:54:45.399
Happy birthday to Marley McClain, who played Mizoti in several

1923
01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:49.560
episodes of Voyager. She appeared in Serenity in twenty thirteen

1924
01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:53.159
began compending Pepperdine School of Law in Balibu, California. That's

1925
01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:56.680
a fun fact, isn't it. Happy birthday to Nathan Fillion,

1926
01:54:57.239 --> 01:55:01.520
Canadian and American actor who played Captain Al Reynolds on Firefly,

1927
01:55:02.319 --> 01:55:05.319
Richard Castle on Castle and starts as Officer John Nolan

1928
01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:08.920
on The Rookie, and who just recently announced that the

1929
01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:12.640
entire crew of the Firefly will be coming back to

1930
01:55:12.720 --> 01:55:16.920
do a new radio program, a new radio series. Very exciting.

1931
01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:21.760
I understand from what my sources tell me, Eric, that

1932
01:55:21.800 --> 01:55:25.359
they're gonna wreck kind a bit and recast John Book.

1933
01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:26.039
How about that?

1934
01:55:26.399 --> 01:55:28.520
Yeah, you know, I mean they have to because we

1935
01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:32.159
no longer have him, of course, But but I'm not

1936
01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:34.920
I'm not against it. You know, you've got the character

1937
01:55:35.039 --> 01:55:35.880
has to live on.

1938
01:55:35.960 --> 01:55:37.920
So so fascinating.

1939
01:55:38.239 --> 01:55:39.439
Yeah.

1940
01:55:39.800 --> 01:55:44.760
No, anyhow, huge fan of Nathan Fillion. Hilarious as one

1941
01:55:44.800 --> 01:55:50.640
of the lanterns in the Superman movies last Summer. He's

1942
01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:51.439
a lunatic.

1943
01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:55.039
He's just the epitome of Guy Gardner from the comics,

1944
01:55:55.079 --> 01:55:58.479
who just is like off the wall, doesn't really care

1945
01:55:58.560 --> 01:56:02.039
what's going on. And yeah, and.

1946
01:56:01.960 --> 01:56:09.399
He kept he kept the bowl cut man. That's just like,

1947
01:56:09.720 --> 01:56:11.840
oh yeah, Peacemaker is the best.

1948
01:56:11.960 --> 01:56:13.159
It's so funny.

1949
01:56:13.560 --> 01:56:15.760
A pretty good shinger too. If you guys ever showed

1950
01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:17.359
Doctor Hoible Singalon vlog.

1951
01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:20.479
I have actually never seen that. I've heard about it. Yeah,

1952
01:56:20.560 --> 01:56:22.560
I won't have to check that out, David. So thank

1953
01:56:22.600 --> 01:56:28.359
you for that. Happy birthday to Lucy Lowless, epic New

1954
01:56:28.479 --> 01:56:32.680
Zealand actress, singer, director, best known for her role as

1955
01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:38.079
Oh Zena on the television series Zena Warrior Princess as

1956
01:56:38.199 --> 01:56:45.359
Anna Bears on the Uh just really needs some professional help,

1957
01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:48.800
That's all I know, on the Ronald D. Moore Battlestar

1958
01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:53.640
Galactica series, as Lucrezia on the television series Spartaca's Blood

1959
01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:57.479
and Sand and Sean McMahon on X Files television series Wow.

1960
01:56:57.520 --> 01:57:02.399
She said John Red Goddess Lucy Lawless outspoken AF as

1961
01:57:02.399 --> 01:57:04.479
well on social media. So that's pretty cool.

1962
01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:06.640
Thank you Lucy for existing.

1963
01:57:07.159 --> 01:57:10.680
Yeah, she's pretty hardcore. Happy Birthday. Oh I can't watch

1964
01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:14.039
Latin Zina. It's too whoat.

1965
01:57:13.439 --> 01:57:16.319
Like seriously, like if you want seen it these days, guys,

1966
01:57:16.399 --> 01:57:18.760
it is WOA. People wouldn't have called.

1967
01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:22.880
It that locking pod Lizzy and whatnot. I can't watch.

1968
01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:26.640
I don't understand. It's too funny. I don't like it.

1969
01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:30.840
It's too whoa Such a good show? Is this song on?

1970
01:57:31.119 --> 01:57:31.479
Anyhow?

1971
01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:35.800
Moving on Happy Birthday? Did the great William Daniels, legendary

1972
01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:38.520
American actor known for his television roles noticeabil is Mark

1973
01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:41.840
Craig on the drama series Saint Elsewhere, for which he

1974
01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:45.079
won two Primetime Emmy Awards, the voice of Kit on

1975
01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:48.319
the television series Night Writer, and George Foenie on the

1976
01:57:48.359 --> 01:57:50.640
sitcom Boy Meets World, which earned him four People's Choice

1977
01:57:50.680 --> 01:57:54.039
Award nominations. He reprised his Nightwriter role the sequel TV

1978
01:57:54.159 --> 01:57:57.600
movie Night Writer two thousand, We Need More Money, and

1979
01:57:57.840 --> 01:58:00.359
his Boy Meets worldwrold and the sequel series. He's a

1980
01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:04.279
Girl meets World franchising can get us even more houses

1981
01:58:04.520 --> 01:58:05.119
and real quick.

1982
01:58:05.239 --> 01:58:08.680
He was John Adams in the nineteen seventy two movie

1983
01:58:08.760 --> 01:58:12.239
musical seventeen seventy six, absolutely fat.

1984
01:58:12.439 --> 01:58:16.000
Oh there you go. Stamp of approval there from the

1985
01:58:16.439 --> 01:58:19.439
excellent but great actor, really terrific. It's a lot of people,

1986
01:58:20.079 --> 01:58:24.720
perhaps folks just enrapturing themselves in the pit, will go

1987
01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:28.079
seek out these old older television shows that at a

1988
01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:32.039
hospital settings Saint Elsewhere was a jeb really really beautifully due,

1989
01:58:32.159 --> 01:58:37.399
great actor, Happy birthday, incredibly cool. Paul Riser, actor, comedian,

1990
01:58:37.479 --> 01:58:43.680
television personality, auto musician, played Burke in the Camera and

1991
01:58:43.920 --> 01:58:47.880
film Alien. It was a bad call, Ripley. It was

1992
01:58:47.920 --> 01:58:51.640
a bad call, you know. And it's like he's so

1993
01:58:51.800 --> 01:58:54.319
ready for the Trump administration. I can't even tell you

1994
01:58:54.399 --> 01:58:58.159
he would like he's like perfect for that. He would

1995
01:58:58.159 --> 01:59:00.600
be like he would be like the perfect Oaks person.

1996
01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:04.199
It was just like, you know, you know, the weasiliest

1997
01:59:04.239 --> 01:59:06.119
And they made an action figure out of him, which

1998
01:59:06.119 --> 01:59:10.159
of course I possess so amazing. Other films he include

1999
01:59:10.399 --> 01:59:14.439
Beverly Hills, Cop, Bye Bye Love, and I can't remember

2000
01:59:14.439 --> 01:59:16.319
the TV show he was in. It was hilarious. He

2001
01:59:16.399 --> 01:59:17.600
was really good two days.

2002
01:59:18.239 --> 01:59:22.279
No, no, no, he was with Helen.

2003
01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:25.279
He's a young yeah, never like a young couple in

2004
01:59:25.319 --> 01:59:26.359
New York. It was really cute.

2005
01:59:26.399 --> 01:59:27.319
Yeah yeah, that's right.

2006
01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:32.039
Well it'll come to me, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Great show,

2007
01:59:32.159 --> 01:59:36.039
really really very funny. He's very charismatic, ad libs really well,

2008
01:59:36.239 --> 01:59:40.039
so just amazing. Happy birthday to Jessica Collins, who played

2009
01:59:40.560 --> 01:59:43.800
Lynnis Paris in Voyageous third seven episode Before and After.

2010
01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:48.000
She's three years older than Jennifer Lean. I don't know

2011
01:59:48.239 --> 01:59:50.720
who played her mother, Cass. That's one of those hilarious

2012
01:59:50.720 --> 01:59:51.279
fun facts.

2013
01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:51.479
Again.

2014
01:59:52.119 --> 01:59:54.000
Best known as Mindy Church and Lois and Clark, The

2015
01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:57.239
New Adventures to Superman. There you go, Jessica Gollin's Happy birthday.

2016
01:59:57.600 --> 02:00:00.760
And we had one obi Wan Kenobe. It's time for

2017
02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:05.680
another obi Wan Kenoby and we have Ewan McGregor, Scottish

2018
02:00:05.720 --> 02:00:09.239
actor who portrayed Obi Wan Kenoby and Star Wars episode one,

2019
02:00:09.279 --> 02:00:12.720
The Phantom Menace, Episode two, Attack of the Clones Episode three,

2020
02:00:12.880 --> 02:00:16.960
Revenge Star Wars obi Wan Kenoby and obi Wan Kanoby

2021
02:00:17.079 --> 02:00:21.039
the recent television series. He's a badass motorcycle rider who

2022
02:00:21.159 --> 02:00:23.640
is literally written all the way to the tip of

2023
02:00:23.680 --> 02:00:27.119
South America on motorcycle, just being a cool badass. He's

2024
02:00:27.159 --> 02:00:29.960
really cool. I mean, it's hard to find cooler people

2025
02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:32.199
than you and McGregor, to be honest, I don't know

2026
02:00:32.239 --> 02:00:35.640
how many people remember train Spotting, but that's taking us

2027
02:00:35.640 --> 02:00:37.920
a way back to where he first showed up on

2028
02:00:37.960 --> 02:00:41.920
the scene. But the nomenal, phenomenal actor and just such

2029
02:00:41.960 --> 02:00:44.760
a nice guy. He is just great with the fans

2030
02:00:44.800 --> 02:00:51.399
at conventions. It's just delightful. So uh really really yeah,

2031
02:00:51.600 --> 02:00:54.840
I've still not seen that. I've heard it's good. Yeah,

2032
02:00:54.880 --> 02:00:56.960
but I really enjoy his work. He's just great and

2033
02:00:57.039 --> 02:00:58.079
I think that's all I've.

2034
02:00:57.960 --> 02:01:00.760
Got for me. Big Fish.

2035
02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:04.479
Oh yeah, that's a Tim Burdy movie, right, Yeah, David,

2036
02:01:04.520 --> 02:01:06.680
that's a great picture. I forget about that sometimes, but

2037
02:01:06.760 --> 02:01:08.880
that's a really good movie as well. Yeah, he's just

2038
02:01:08.960 --> 02:01:12.199
a wonderful So the McGregor's, you know, big fan of

2039
02:01:12.239 --> 02:01:16.640
Scottish people. But McGregor is just an awesome cat. And

2040
02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:19.279
I think, my I'm about to burn my fingers and

2041
02:01:19.279 --> 02:01:21.720
sing it on the last little bit of birthday candle

2042
02:01:21.720 --> 02:01:23.680
wick that I have here, so i'd better hurly pass

2043
02:01:23.720 --> 02:01:26.239
it over. Unle Wow.

2044
02:01:26.520 --> 02:01:28.479
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

2045
02:01:28.520 --> 02:01:30.600
Paul, I only have three, so I'll make him quick.

2046
02:01:30.920 --> 02:01:34.319
We want to say happy birthday to Michael York. He's

2047
02:01:34.359 --> 02:01:37.239
an English actor who appeared in The Logan's Runners Logan

2048
02:01:37.479 --> 02:01:39.840
five and there he is on the screen. He's a

2049
02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:43.720
member of the elite peace force called the Sandman that

2050
02:01:44.039 --> 02:01:47.640
hunt down Runners. This actually was one of the first

2051
02:01:47.640 --> 02:01:50.399
sci fi movies I saw. It came out before Star Wars.

2052
02:01:50.640 --> 02:01:53.000
Saw the Drive in with Mom and Dad instantly fell

2053
02:01:53.039 --> 02:01:56.039
in love with it. Love Jenny Augatter in this movie.

2054
02:01:56.079 --> 02:02:00.560
By the way, Happy birthday Michael York. Gonna move on

2055
02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:01.880
to some Klingons.

2056
02:02:02.800 --> 02:02:06.960
There we have it. We're gonna move on to some Klingons.

2057
02:02:07.479 --> 02:02:10.720
We want to say copp La and happy birthday to

2058
02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:14.560
Rick Passoon And who is he. He's the actor who

2059
02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:20.199
played Torel Son of Jerah in the DS nine episode

2060
02:02:20.840 --> 02:02:25.079
The Sword of Kayless and that was his first acting role.

2061
02:02:25.199 --> 02:02:27.520
There he is on the screen. I still think Wharf

2062
02:02:27.600 --> 02:02:29.199
should have killed him and that would have saved him

2063
02:02:29.199 --> 02:02:31.680
a lot of headaches in the future. But happy birthday

2064
02:02:31.920 --> 02:02:35.560
to Rick Pask and the last on my list. We

2065
02:02:35.640 --> 02:02:39.600
want to say Happy Birthday and kopp lah to Peggy

2066
02:02:39.960 --> 02:02:43.520
Joe Jacobs, And there she is on the screen. Man,

2067
02:02:43.600 --> 02:02:46.640
she's a good looking Klingon. She's the actress and former

2068
02:02:46.680 --> 02:02:50.960
model who played she Regat in Voyager seventh season episode

2069
02:02:51.000 --> 02:02:54.840
The Prophecy. She also appeared on such television shows as Clueless,

2070
02:02:55.279 --> 02:03:02.520
Unhappily Ever After, Martial Law, and The X File. And uh,

2071
02:03:02.840 --> 02:03:06.319
that wraps up our birthdays. Uh, Eric, you think we

2072
02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:08.840
have time for Shatner says, what do we want to

2073
02:03:08.840 --> 02:03:09.680
bump it the next week?

2074
02:03:10.920 --> 02:03:12.479
Uh, we'll six thirty seven.

2075
02:03:12.560 --> 02:03:12.920
I don't know.

2076
02:03:13.039 --> 02:03:14.279
Let's let's save it for next week.

2077
02:03:14.399 --> 02:03:16.840
Let's save it for next I like it, all right,

2078
02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:20.319
so we'll do Shner says, what next week? And we

2079
02:03:20.399 --> 02:03:24.199
also have a story about Starfleet Academy season two, and

2080
02:03:24.199 --> 02:03:28.399
we'll bump that to the next weekend. Well without any

2081
02:03:28.439 --> 02:03:31.079
further ado. That wraps up the podcast. Wow, time flies

2082
02:03:31.079 --> 02:03:32.159
when you're having fun.

2083
02:03:33.800 --> 02:03:38.600
We're woke, he woke, woke, woke the company of guys.

2084
02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:42.159
So, uh, I don't know what we're gonna do next week,

2085
02:03:42.199 --> 02:03:43.439
but I'll come up with something.

2086
02:03:45.479 --> 02:03:48.920
Yeah, you just said, John Carpenter, Man, that's.

2087
02:03:48.720 --> 02:03:50.680
Going to be the trivia with I don't know what

2088
02:03:50.720 --> 02:03:51.720
the topic is going to be.

2089
02:03:51.840 --> 02:03:52.239
Let's make it.

2090
02:03:52.479 --> 02:03:53.760
Oh that's the trivia.

2091
02:03:53.960 --> 02:03:58.760
Oh that'll be fun. Yeah, it's going to be the trivia.

2092
02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:02.239
We'll come up with something, okay with you guys, and.

2093
02:04:03.680 --> 02:04:06.680
I would love to talk about Seaquests, but Charles has

2094
02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:07.359
never seen it.

2095
02:04:08.760 --> 02:04:10.119
Dave has probably never seen it either.

2096
02:04:10.479 --> 02:04:11.279
Only have to watch.

2097
02:04:14.439 --> 02:04:19.840
Maybe for all mankind. Maybe I don't know. Anyways, we'll

2098
02:04:19.880 --> 02:04:22.840
worry about that later. So that wraps up the show. Guys.

2099
02:04:23.359 --> 02:04:26.239
I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, and I want

2100
02:04:26.239 --> 02:04:28.159
to say thank you so much for Paul for hanging

2101
02:04:28.199 --> 02:04:29.880
out and Shrek talking with us tonight.

2102
02:04:29.960 --> 02:04:31.000
Thank you so much, Paul.

2103
02:04:32.359 --> 02:04:34.199
I had a lot of fun doing man, it was good.

2104
02:04:34.239 --> 02:04:37.279
It was good to get to get busted loose a little.

2105
02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:39.079
Like popcorn popping in.

2106
02:04:39.640 --> 02:04:43.079
Yeah yeah, like Colonel's Colonel's finding their way to adolescents

2107
02:04:43.119 --> 02:04:45.640
and you know, going, Toby.

2108
02:04:50.279 --> 02:04:51.399
Can't be popcorn.

2109
02:04:51.439 --> 02:04:56.760
Now outwent you, guys, that's I'm the colonel.

2110
02:04:58.680 --> 02:05:05.560
Wow, Wow, what's the matter, Colonel Sanders? Of course, thank

2111
02:05:05.600 --> 02:05:07.520
you so much to be for hanging out and Shrek

2112
02:05:07.560 --> 02:05:08.159
talking with us.

2113
02:05:08.159 --> 02:05:08.399
Thank you.

2114
02:05:08.640 --> 02:05:12.039
Yep, I'm sorry, I'm I will be hopefully more alert

2115
02:05:12.119 --> 02:05:15.600
next week. I'm about ready to fall on my face.

2116
02:05:16.960 --> 02:05:19.359
Oh thanks pants.

2117
02:05:20.279 --> 02:05:24.760
Uh No I did not. I did not, or if

2118
02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:26.279
I did, I wouldn't admit it.

2119
02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:28.439
That's just a secret.

2120
02:05:29.439 --> 02:05:31.079
Thank you so much to David for hanging out in

2121
02:05:31.159 --> 02:05:35.439
Shrek talking with us and making these awesome videos possible,

2122
02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:38.880
which if you guys are subscribers on our Facebook page,

2123
02:05:39.159 --> 02:05:41.079
you can watch all these awesome videos that.

2124
02:05:41.159 --> 02:05:45.560
Da Yeah, I got to grow out my white beard

2125
02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:48.960
now to let you guys know how old I really am.

2126
02:05:49.279 --> 02:05:52.680
One of these days you will get a flashboarding question right.

2127
02:05:52.800 --> 02:05:55.079
Eventually you will. You have to.

2128
02:05:55.640 --> 02:05:58.600
I'm going to watch it sometime someday, not so weird,

2129
02:05:58.640 --> 02:05:59.439
I think you will.

2130
02:06:01.239 --> 02:06:03.239
And of course, thank you so much to Charles for

2131
02:06:03.319 --> 02:06:04.640
hanging out in Shuck talking with us.

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Thank you, Charles, oh always fun.

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And last but not least, thank you so much to

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Eric for hanging out in front talking with us to night.

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Thank you.

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Eric said that was a fun show.

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Yes, and then I.

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Gotta say I'm your most excellent host, Uncle jam Please

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everybody stay safe and be good to each other, and

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remember start your fans are the best chains.

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Good night, everybody, night, live long, and prospect colonels.

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Yeah, mister, I.

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Had work book heading stir.

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Out there

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By the way