EPISODE 664- Andy Bray "Chekov's Search for Spock" - SFA discussion

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0:47 You can join us. About the series too. Well. Good evening, trek Is and trek Is around the Globe. It's Thursday, de Summer eleventh, twenty twenty five. Welcome to Trek Talking and Beyond. I'm a most excellent host, Uncle Jim, Welcome to the podcast. We're gonna have a lot of fun tonight. We have with us the one and only Andy Bray and he's gonna be premiering check Off Search first Spots, so you definitely want to hang around for that one. We're gonna do things a little bit differently this week because we got a lot to squeeze in.

1:48 We are going to be bumping con up to next week because we had to make room for Andy Brace. So next week we'll be doing con Or. Wrap that all up, and we're gonna dive right in. We're gonna talk about Star freek Academy. I hope everybody had an opportunity to see the clip. We're going to talk about that, but before we do, I want to go around and introduce everybody. We'll start off with the toy guy. He's out. How you doing tonight? I'm doing all right, friend, I'm doing okay. It's been a busy, busy week. I think that there is a holiday seasoned vortex that kind of is ted this time of year, and we're all kind of collectively getting sucked into it. So anything happening mobably will. I'm glad to be here.

2:31 Uncle. We also have from Portland as well. Eric, How you doing? I don't hear Eric. I don't see Eric either. Perhaps something terrible you do him? Well? Whatever I previously said that was brilliant. You're just gonna have to wait for it to come out of my mouth again at some point. So anyway, very excited to be here as always. And we also have Liters from Portland, America. Work for himself, David I'm.

3:15 Doing very good. It's been a long time and so finally back. I'm having withdrawals. I know, it's look at the beer and I talked to myself. That's crazy stuff going on. And we also have with us. We have Charles from Las Vegas. I love the pine trees tonight, Thanks Jim. Seems like I'm having the major having major issues with Riverside. They some I didn't did an update, and. My computer wouldn't take the had to reinstall the app to get to work, and my browcher didn't want to work right. But at least the weather's nice. Well that's important thing.

3:58 Yeah, wellside just doesn't doesn't. It's got an issue with that green sweater. It's like with you know the weather person shows up on TV wearing anything green. They just disappeared to the background. Genuinely want to say hello to my. Little I have. Yeah, so it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. We don't have any of the time with song. Kind of trying moving a little bit. I want to let Andy, no, we're gonna say. I want to say hello to Andy, welcome to the podcast, and.

4:42 Thank you glad to be here. I missed you. Guys. And did I hear you right? Did you say I bumped Con? Yes? Over Con, I could be. In serious trouble because Con never forgets bump, so he might be coming after me. I might be true. I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to have a new video to share you guys. And I'm excited to talk about Starfleet Academy with you guys. Absolutely so. As I said, Andy has a brand new video. Check out search for Spot. We're going to get to that in a minute, But first, I hope everybody had an opportunity to watch the new clip from Starkleet Academy.

5:23 If you did it, we're going to want it together right here, right now, and then we're going to dive right into it. So even if you want to roll the table. Yes I do. Well you're doing. We're not far from the bad lands, Captain. Some space instability might be creeping in and we're the first to shut to know. This would make an excellent practical study module for the Spatial Harmonics Lab. Captain. All right, well, let's not tunnel the ship on our first rune. Captain, I'm picking up sources of taking on interference one hundred thousand kilometers to word.

6:10 Twelve contacts incoming. Church your centers, red alert, race shields, target those. Contacts and take them out. Get to the kids, amps, the stations. All cadets. You must return to your quarterers. This is not a true. Don't kind of bring bringing in your friend. Don't not as well, Jet your tom. Don't lose it.

6:51 Why are you talking? Check out that. What is. Remable? Madams and go from the entire ship. It's a very we've never seen before. Activating back. Apollo comes in her face. All right, talk to Helm, got us out. Of here, Love. Hell, I'm not responding. Draining our power, Captain, Captain, it's the role firefull spread.

7:32 We can't. Yes ergency a baship, multiple systems overload. Captain primary powered eighty six percent. Power to Ford shields. Open a channel to sharply command. Calling star Fleet Command Bricky ten percent. USS Athena under attacked by the. Venori Rhne damaged to multiple Captain including. Crew quarters Bridge. The doctor report a little. Dizzy here, Captain. The explosion damaged our emergency hollow hitters.

8:16 Manical staff is in foot. Supply right now. From what I can see, there are multiple injuries. Both cantets and officers, but no casualties. Let me know if that changes, if we. Can avoid another direct ship that would be super. Power supply is fluctuating ship wide. That's some instructors in lockdownlo transmission patch it through. Fifteen long years. But you look radiant as ever, Captain.

8:58 Ok loose Braka. So many things I didn't get to say when last we met. For instance, time, with its infinite sense. Of humor, will always fall upon itself like an origami chicken. Yeah, and this moment, Captain Oak, this moment. Is that chicken. In other words, payback's are bitch. Who payback? Sal I love it. I love it so andy as our as our visiting dignitary.

9:44 What does it think? I'm excited I can hunt wait for January, I mean goes without saying it looks gorgeous, the effects the set, which they said this set is massive, that that open area Treed set is one of the biggest they've ever built. And it looks incredible and it's exciting to see Bob Bocardo back as the doctor and Holly Hunter and oh my goodness, Paul der Mighty just chewing up the scenery. A lot of scenery to chew, and he's just so much fun to watch. And I guess say, I love seeing a Gemhadar as well, especially one that's got like a British soldier kind of lieutenant vibe to her with a hint of British pompous professor.

10:32 I'm excited. It looks good, it looks great. I mean, it's a small clip, but it looks cinematic, it looks exciting, it looks thrilling. I can't wait. Yeah, that's the actual, first actual clip that we've seen that wasn't a trailer, you know, with a bunch of individual clips out of contact. That's the first time we actually get to see Holly Hunters on the ship and not just individual clips. But I do know, don't prescribe next five in the future. Instead of wearing glasses, wasn't that from Startrek? Here, she's allergic, just like a start Trek two as the wrath of Kyle's her two.

11:15 That's right, Star Trek two. I was thinking, the best Star Trek movie ever, and I went right to Start Trek five. It's right. I'm afraid you're gonna have to hand over hosting duties of this show now. You're having your star Trek card revokes for getting that one wrong. It's possible she's allergic, just like Kirk. Although I think really, if you want to know probably why it's being done, it's because thirty two, the thirty second century, and they're trying to make her relatable to audiences, and so that makes it's a human touch. It's a human touch that shows us that this might be, you know, a thousand years, a thousand plus years into the future, but she's still a relatable person who has the same struggles that we do, and it's a quick way to kind of humanize your characters.

12:02 I like the fact that they're still using the dance too, which we say on Discovery we haven't seen them in a while, so I think it's cool to see though. Yeah, you want to jump in and share your thoughts on the culture. Yeah, absolutely, Well, I'm excited to get back to the thirty second century. I like that aesthetic, and I like the kind of cool technology things like being able to just transport anyway anywhere all over the ship and you know, half a second, I think that's pretty cool. You know, this is something that we kind of have brought up multiple times and just the whole line of paybacks a bitch, and that's a very colloquial line, and it just, you know, to have that twenty first century language in there. I always kind of like, ough, Cadn't they have found another cool way to say that, or you know, reference some crazy slime devil that lives on some other planets.

12:58 You know. So I you know, the writers seem kind of stuck in this mode where they feel like they need to do that. We started kind of seeing that a lot during Strange New Worlds especially, But aside from that one little bit there, it looks very exciting. Lots of lots of cool action, lots of cool visuals, and you know, it's got Holly Hunters. So obviously I'll be watching. Now that that character that kind of wakes up and as a headache. I believe she's a full betazoid. I remember the promotions for the series, but she's a full like Losana Troy. Yeah, if I remember, I don't remember that sounds but I think she's a full on She's not like Troy where she just senses and feels stuff.

13:45 She's a full on betazoid like Losana Troy. So that will be an interesting twist. So how about it? How about it, Charles, that green shirt is blinding? Oh just wait till I get the jacket on. Uh yes, okay, somebody find me an orgamy chicken. I want to see this. I want to see what an org chicken looks like. Hmm, sorry, a little bit of allergy is kicking in.

14:25 Yeah, you could. You could say that orgon looking that orgy chicken is a real mother clucker. All right, I'll keep my all right. Looking forward to see what they do with this. Definitely an interesting startup to seeing this episode. So I think it's definitely it's like okay, incoming, except that income and come in and they knew immediately they've. Got to defend themselves. So but he's he's putting the ship into a web of some kind.

15:12 It's like, okay, now I'm curious what is he putting around this ship? And definitely this is I think being most interactive ship to ship communication that I've ever seen. You do get somebody in the screen, You get a hologram in front of you. No, that's hologram for walking around, walking around, having a conversation, looking into everything. It's like, okay, this is definitely getting a newer technology, which is gonna be worth seeing what they do with. So definitely, I think this is gonna be worth seeing what's going on. What's a show? I agree completely. We're gonna say Paul for last.

15:58 Yeah, I'm excited. I'm have all my judgment about the show until we see it. But overall, I think the show is very exciting. I'm really curious to see how they developed the characters that it goes along. But yeah, I can't wait for the fifteenth. It can be a very fun day to watch. As a Star Trek fan, I live for this. This is this is where I live in brief Born new Star Treks to talk about, something to experience, and this is this is what it's all about. Man, it's a new Star Trek and Paul, we were all. Bigo. I didn't think, no, I didn't no, No, Paul has to leave. Let him go first.

16:44 I got some time. I got some time, you know, I got I'm all right, we don't want another hour? Well, all right, so I can go. Okay, pretty much what Andy said, I agree with. It looks fantastic. I mean, how can you uh look at that and see like Holly freaking hunter and Paul Giamatti. I mean, especially Paul, like you. Were saying, chewing the scenery, and they're both Oscar winners, so I mean, my gosh, it's going to be fantastic. And I think I heard when they were trying to get the cadet somewhere, didn't Did I hear somebody say you keep breathing, breathing as your friend or something like that. Yeah, breathing is good. Yeah, and of course seeing yeah the doctor.

17:36 Though the question is because I don't, I didn't hear anything. Hopefully he has an actual name by the pie now, because you know that was always the thing. He didn't have a name really. Until you'll be well, I take that back in. Voyager endgame, I think they when they you know, are in the future. I think he chose the name Joe, and Andrew said, Joe, you waited all these years just to call yourself Joe. And it was his wife's because he was actually married to a real a real person. Uh so that's that's his wife's grandfather's name or something like that.

18:20 So the only thing that that kind of discourages me is seeing all the negative comments on bline when people haven't even seen it. And uh, well, like like we saw on our page, you know, was that some some really not so nice comments. And it's just realizing how many people don't truly understand uh, you know Geene Rodenberry's vision. And I'm not mistaken his son is involved in this too. I mean, he keeps the legacy going. So I'm just hoping once it comes out that there won't be so much ugliness out there. So but I'm looking I'm definitely probably be worse.

19:12 Remember Deep Space nine voyage? Are they the haters come out for everything? Yeah, it just seems like it just seems like it's worse these days. But well, thanks to the Internet and social media, it's just easier for those types of people have a platform. Yeah, if they're not even going to give it. A chance, then their opinion is means, what's that line from TuS. Uh the McCloy to the Klingon. He speaks on it, but I. Do not hear him. Yeah, yeah, that was a Russian saying. I think absolutely everything he's Russian saying in Russian. M yep, So I definitely look forward to seeing it.

19:55 And yep, that's that's not all I have to say. Now, it's going to be a two episode premiere on the fifteen, so we'll see episode one and episode two on the fifteen, So we'll have a pretty busy show the following week, two episodes to cover in one show. But we can do it. I know we can. Paul chopping at the bit over here, we don't have a lot of time with Paul, so we want to get fine. We're fine. I don't know I'm chopping at the bit. I just maybe I watched a different chunk of footage and you guys did. I'm cautiously optimistic. I want to like the show.

20:35 I want it to be good, but I'm very nervous about the writing from looking at this right and what I see is it's great to see a big, exciting action sequence, hooray. But that does not have anything to do with quality, and it doesn't mean this is going to be a good show. This, you know, I start right off. With like, okay, big yeah, identified you know, enemy coming to attack the ship, and the vibe is almost exactly like when they introduced the Amanda Plumber character. Is vadic on a card right that last season. Here she comes out of nowhere and is able to overwhelm our ship with her wacky band of space pirates, right, I mean. That is exactly. It just feels like the same thing.

21:17 I mean, the. Group that I don't know what, the communications officer whoever identifies them, the bnario, the space pirates man. This is what we're going for with Paul GIMIONI. You know, it seems like I'm hoping. That the writing is better than what we were just illustrated, because. I mean, I'm like Eric, when I hear an anachronism from like. The twentieth century, like Payback's a Bitch, it just takes me out of. The show man. It's just like, who are you? What are you writing for? Right? I mean it's just really lazy and it's just jars the stuff. It's anachronistic, right and Urgami Chicken. I mean, I'm sorry, this is not good writing. And I'm that's going to be the thing that I'm that will make or break the show for me if it's if it's good writing, right, I can forbe of a you know, obligatory space battle every now and then because.

22:13 You want to get to the young people excited, you know, and that's great. But but you know, it has a very recycled familiar feeling to it, and that's you know, you want to make sure some of the fandemic graphic feels good about the familiarity and they feel comforted by it and they see some things that resonate for them that they go, Okay, this is start trek. But ideally you should be doing something new as well. A little nervous and just this, you know, I love Holly Hunter, I love Paul Giamatti, but my god, dude, I mean Jimonti was just like so over the top there. I mean, it was just like you know, sometimes there's you know, other letters of the alpha between A and Z, and I'm just concerned that he's going to be that big of a you know, handbone during the scenery. I mean and the Space Pirates thing.

22:59 We've done that so many times in the Star Trek. I just like cringe whenever I hear the word right. So, I don't know, I want to be optimistic. I'm not a I think it's important to point out that when somebody has critique of something right, and they're you know, pointing out things that they don't feel are as effective as they could be that is not making somebody a hater. I think it's really important. To to clarify that, right, and that you're going to hear a spectrum of different opinions about this show, right, and everybody ideally should give it a chance. I'm only judging what i've seen, right, not the whole thing. But just because I'm a little perturbed by this doesn't mean that necessarily, you know, I can be lumped in and being called a hater, and no other fans too.

23:40 It's important to critique and have some critical sensibilities and not just say it's Star Trek therefore I will love it no matter what right. I want this show to succeed. Believe me, I do. There were some trepiditious years there where so many people were down on Discovery right, and it was just you know, you know it with the woke teck label. And I hate that, right. I hate that people dumped all over it, Like V says, We've had, you know, a horrific deluge of negative comments on the Facebook group from you know, right wingers who just hate anything even remotely progressive. Right. I don't want that to continue to happen and plague this show at all. But because this looks like Discovery, and this follows the footsteps of Discovery, and because it's got the same time period it is Discovery, those people are ready and they're going to start being really negative and they're going to bring a lot of knee jerk comments there. There's a difference between that, though, and thoughtful critique and hoping that the show would be, you know, ideally aspire. You've got a great opportunity here, right, It's like, if you have an amount of money and budget to be able to make these kind of special effects and these.

24:50 Kind of. Sets and whatnot, make sure that your writing is equivalent with that, right, make sure you'd give something that is really well written in literate not you know, back's up, bitch, I mean, Jesus, I mean, is that the best you can do? Please tell me you can do better than that. I think That's what I'm at right now? Right, I mean, well, it all to you know, it ought to you know, so you don't mind the twentieth century dialogue showing up in that show that takes place one hundreds of years in the future. That doesn't seem weird to you. When the twenty essentially, how do I know what they're going to be talking about nine hundred years from now.

25:30 These things might come back and smile, you know, I think yeah, for me find the kind of thing really galling. You know. But everyone's different, right, Art is appreciated subjectively, right, so but to me, it's a bad time. Newsome Ti Newsome that Marina is also when the writing rooms of this show too, that's great. Doesn't mean that you get a free pastor just do whatever they want, right, That doesn't That does not carry any. Credit for me at all. It's like, I'm going to judge you on the quality of the work you put out, not just because you're Tawny Newsom, er because you're Paul g Am. I I'm going to assess what you bring to the table, and what I see on the table here is not looking great. I hope it's better. I want it to be better.

26:13 But give me something better and initial first blush, this is you know looks you know. I really want to be wrong badly. I'm rooting for the show to succeed, make no mistake, but from what I'm seeing, I'm a little I'm more nervous than i was before based on this clip. Before I was a lot more. You know, up before it a lot more positive. After seeing this a lot less. Well, you know, I'm like, okay, well here's my question. But you know, would it work if they just switched up the phrase so at least you know, it's not something totally foreign to audiences that can say payback is a you know, a dynebian slide devil or something, or you know, payback some.

26:56 It doesn't have to be use a different kind of idiom. I mean, give us something fresh and new. But it's just but it's a it's a worn out, modern contemporary phrase that sort. Of yawns you back. It's called, you know, suspension of disbelief. You want to believe you're in you know, it's being depicted, you know. I mean it's just it's that kind of thing is just galling, and you see it very often in you know, serialized TV. So I don't know, it's me. I have my own standards. Everyone else's are different, right, I'm not going to put my opinion on anyone else's throat, you know at all. I don't say you should think like I do. But you know, I like things to be really good, you know, and I like to be surprised and impressed, and I want to be and I will be watching those first two episodes sitting there.

27:39 Like, yeah, do it? Do it? Impress me? Optimism? Right, I'm gonna I'm going to be rooting for it to succeed, rooting for it to be better than this, Rooting for there to be more to Giamadi's character than a bunch of you know you conspesive makeup. Right, give me something that I can relate to from the human experience level. Give me something more. Than just okay, the vengeful villain yet again, because that's getting. A little sound. We'll see, we'll see. I don't know, but I just you know, and not one cadet. You don't really see any cadets in this either. We don't see the young cadets from the post or anything. We just see, you know, bringing out the A listers here, which is maybe telling as well. I don't know, but it's just it's curious.

28:25 So we'll see. I mean, everyone's gonna have thoughts. But you know, again, I'm hopeful. I want to love this show. I hope they pull it off. So what's the deal with the lady and the Blues standing there saying oh, this would be good for training. I'm assuming that. The the uss Aris is a mobile school and that they're out there educating. I must, I think that. Was my assumption. It's like the whole university takes off and goes on missions and and then they must be out in whatever that expansive space is doing some sort of school trip, a field trip.

29:14 Athena. It's basically like a mobile class room. M hmm. Yeah, it looks like a college to like, you know, you're just find stories that looks luxurious so much. H let's bring up the back lunch. Ship was pretty It was pretty neat too, that together pieces that came together into one and the the uss Aries. Yeah, Athena, Athena Athena.

29:58 Yeah, totally different reference. Different different myths, Greek. Who was the. Some other show and some other. That's that's that's Tron. Yeah, get your franchises, dammit, what's wrong? Able to shoot down the you know too? They were Yeah, you know, it looked really it looked really good.

30:39 I didn't know watch it again, but. It was very I mean, it was very consistent with kind of the Discovery style stuff that we got, so, I mean it was solid, you know, it's good. Like there that was mostly an action scene, so we mostly got action music. You know, we have no idea what they're going to do for music. It's pretty good. Well, I think that's because of you know, they wanted to show something, you know different. I think they wanted to get a scene with with Holly and Paul in it together because I don't know how many scenes they're going to actually share on them once the show starts, you know, because her being the captain and him being the villain. You know, Kirk and Cohn weren't together much.

31:26 So Yeah, but with the hollow the hollow screen thing that they've got going on, it makes it a little easier because I remember in the trailer there's a clip where she like does this as his hollow images disappearing, and he's like right on top of her. So they at least have one more conversation together, if not more than that. Yeah, I agree. I thought I thought Charles was right. I thought it was pretty cool how they how Paul could walk around on the bridge of anemy ship like that and just kind of scope out stuff, you know, while he's you know. Yeah, that's what you hope that in the future the Federation can just turn on their cat filter and make their villains seem much less opposing they start walking around.

32:10 Just give them a cat head. Conn would be a lot less scary with the cat head. And I also worried about hollow biosies. I mean, all of a sudden, you know, producing a bunch of moldy trees. Did you, uh, the hollow we'll call them. Joe. Joe said that the hollows were medical staff was in share. Uh you know, does that mean that the his doctors are all hollow doctors like we saw Discovery. I'm assuming could be that's that's response. You could just hollow he make someone right there. I mean, if they've got regular.

32:57 I'm not thinking more Discovery, I'm thinking more or percard Rios. Yeah, Rios. Remember hire holographic crew. That's right. And he can stop have an entire, entire, high entire holographic. Staff until the electricity goes out. Yeah, that's true. Well, maybe the ship is mostly. Run by holograms, and maybe it's just teachers, students and then engineering cruise hologram, medical cruise hologram. I mean, isn't I was just thinking about not to like labor this point, But like, wouldn't the next step past these Discovery era ships just be a holographic ship.

33:44 Favorite computer can't replace us. We have to be there exploring hologram. You instill like your hologram on board? Yeah? Anyway, all right, shall we carry on. Where we lost the. We did this. We're hoping that she's going to come back. And Paul turned into a pee and. Paul turned into it. But this is the nature of our show. There's always a little ebb and flow.

34:26 What happened to me? What did I do? We cannot see your face. We can see the letter P Yeah, I don't know. Assuming it's thanks for the lecture, but it's not all. I see. All right, Well I see a pee, but I don't see a VHS. So Andy, would you like to set us up for Pavel search for Spock and then we'll have David roll the tap.

35:08 All right, my newest tres guest. It's been a while. Oh I've been itching to make another one for you guys, and this one sees some It's a check off one, obviously, and it's sees some fun time traveling. This after Spock has died in Ratha Khan check Off decides that only he can save Spock, but he's gonna need some help from his younger self, and that's where things go sideways. This is Chekhov's search for spot. All right, David, you have the tape. All right, let's sit back and enjoy it.

36:10 Assembled here today a final respects to our honor dead of all the souls I have encountered in my travels. The. Human tissue. I know, I'm over addressed. I didn't know everybody else was going to stay in uniform. It's a an email would have been nice, hey, Papo, heads up, Nobody change from We're just gonna go casual and stay in uniform.

36:54 Dress up, right thing? It's what like, mister Spock was near and dear. She's like, so that's a nable bagpipes. Really, yees, talk. About leaning into the stereotype.

37:36 Here's as Enterprise Captain's personal arm. The death of Spock is like an open world. It seems that I have left the novelist part of myself back there on a newborn planet. Oh my god, this guy has become such a deppy down there. We get it, Spock is dead, But that was like a whole movie. You go get over it already change the record, Am I right? Sir? I was wondering are they planning a ceremony when we get in? I mean a reception? Come on, guy, read the freaking room. I haven't seen the Kip in this distrut since they stopped serving lots of tots at Hooters.

38:26 My heroes welcome songs out you like. My God knows I should be. It's time we've paid for the party with our dearest blood. Well, congratulations, mister no name cadet. You're never getting promoted. Trust me, I know you'll make one off color joke about Iowa hicks and farm animals, and boom, you get sent back to the boiler room and replaced by a freaky three armed lobster man. You spend the next decade ensign. It's just a kiptain. Kirk and mister Spock or Spork as we all called them, or total bsff's best space friends forever and now. The Kiptain has been throwing a never ending pity party ever since mister Spock went and got himself Mycroft. Well, that's it.

39:22 I can't take this anymore. Damn it, hey, personal space pro come on getting a freaking contact High Chief Engineer Scotch Like I was saying, that's it. Things have gotten so gloomy here. I can't even remember the last time I was able to tell it was invented and Russia joke. I feel like I haven't said that phrase since the sixties. Well that changes today. I'm fixing this. I'm going to save mister Spock with time travel.

40:08 Now baby takes the morning turbolet. He works from nine to five each day in the Enterprises boiler room because of stupid Eric's ah. Ah, holy stanislavsky bro, you nearly made me pee my sparkling space pants. Nearly. Who are you and what are you doing here? I'm you Pavel from the future. Oh my god? What the hell are you wearing?

40:51 But I didn't want to wear my uniform because I thought it might crrup the timeline. You mean those or your clothes? Yes? Why? What's wrong with him? Are you kidding me? With those? This is future fashion? Whye? It's the future directed by baz lerman. Hey, this is the eighties. This is what people wear in the eighties. Have you ever seen anyone else wearing that outfit? Well? No, but unbelievable, man, I suck in the future. Would you stop it? There's nothing wrong with these clothes. Seriously, you look like one of those creepy porcelain Dutch boy figurines that old ladies collect. You look like the artist formerly known as Prince if he was also a pilgrim.

41:41 Mm hmm, very cute. Now, Pavo, listen, I've traveled back in time. To prevent a horrible future in eighteen years, mister Spock will die. You look like a haunted doll that wished to become a real boy, but after it accidentally went to the wash cycle with a red sock. Please listen, babo, I can only stay in your time for a limited Was there like an accident? You burned out your eyes with acid and then decided to go shopping for a new wardrobe while blind. Is it out of your system yet?

42:23 Because this is serious, fout help mister Spook will die. Let me guess he sees you in those clothes and then dies of embarrassment. Shut out with Davy Jones haired freak whoa out of bop But nahh, this is totally my real hair. Now listen, we have a chance to save mister Spock, to keep the family together to avoid heartbreak for the kitchen. Huh, he says, But you have to do exactly as I say. Can you do that?

43:05 Don't? Don't do it? Did you do the better sol or something? No, you look like the world's saddest Partridge Family cover band. Stop it. You look like a bargain bin Denmark Kendall. Spuck will die. Okay, Okay, damn it. Just tell me what I have to. God, damn it. I'm sorry. I can't help it. It's like I'm talking to the quaker Oatsky if he got too mixed with Liberachi.

43:46 No. No, I was supposed to save Spuck. I was finally going to get to tell it wasn't wented in Russia. Jokes again, thanks a lot, you mop top tiger beat dope. Yeah, well, at least I don't look like my mother dressed me for school hoping I would get beat up. Hoe must have been a watka. Nobody buys clothes like that. Sober speaking of which, what God? What God? Everything is better with what God? Yes, yes, yes, I'll worn. Mister Spock.

44:27 But first I have to wrense the sight of those clothes from my mind with a small drink. We are assembled here today the final respects to our honored dead. Damn it. I know I was forgetting something. Sorry, everybody, this is on me. I was supposed to warn him not to die, and then I got drunk. But in my defense, you should have seen what future me was waiting Wolf. You would get drunk too.

45:09 Oh the fucking s thoughts. Alright, well I'm back awesome, yaya. Oh I was so collas I came a higher sketch. To making fun of Walter's worse costume. Oh my one, I love it. When directing Luman, that was idured he made that was perfect brother? Well right, well then. In his defense, much. More creativity in that short. Yeah, telling so.

45:53 Well done. Have anybody seen the Prickly Ballroom? I was very much. Inspired by that. I spent forty years is wondering what the hell was with that costume. It's just forty years of pent up frustration at Walter's poor Dutch boy uniform. I finally let it have it. I love that you took the name. Okahn some liberties with the original series and check off has heard of two mix. Yeah that was great. Yeah, well, the fact that you turned it into a verb was great. Mixed.

46:36 That's my favorite, although the boz Lerman line was also really good. Originally, when I wrote it, it wasn't baz Lerman, it was Joel Schumacher, but I thought that was. A little too dated. Yeah, and the fact that he was no longer with us like that. Maybe it was like taking a shot at someone who's not here to defend himself. So so Baz wants to take me to the task. King Camp updated it. Yeah, it was a little fair, and bazler Man is a little more current totally, So that was actually I changed that. While I was filming it. I just improvised that one it was originally. So did you really that was the first time a different name. Yeah, yeah, I just decided I was trying different things I felt past, and when I was editing it, I kind of liked the bachelor Man worked better for me.

47:22 Well, he made one of my favorite movies. My first second where you're like standing there next to Christy Alley. I was like, oh my god, this is hilarious, and you look over at her and she's in that loop so you could just kind of talk over her. It was so good. I wanted to do something she wasn't just at the best I could. Come up with this, Yes, just a little bit, a little bit, kind of moving a little bit. The funeral suit was really just the cheap I did not have a Maroon Monster uniform to put on, so I I wrote myself wearing a suit, and then the jokes that came with it. Just I wouldn't have to figure out how to put myself in that uniform, and then later I had to figure out how to do it. Anyways, for the Star Trek three scenes, and I just I have I have what Charles is wearing.

48:09 I had a green shirt with a turtle neck, and I just took my head. I shelled it on green screen, in front of green screen with a green shirt, and just put my head on Walter's body. So, yeah, this is the first time that you've sort of used that technique, and I thought it was really clever. I mean it the the thing that's awesome about it is that it feels artificial because your head never moves, right, Yeah, but I think that works with the jokes. Ye, you're. The production values have gone way, oh yeah, incorporating other media and you know, and I think that you know, I would just emphasize this I've seen a bunch of your stuff. Right, the writing keeps improving, you know, I think I think it's very creative, more clever. You know, it's just it's just, you know, you don't seem like you're content to do the same.

49:00 Saying over and over again. Right, and you're like, try and new stuff. And this was really great because you get to do I can be check off in two different ways, right, And it's and it's funny. You know, you have a good instinct for what what what you know what works and what's funny? Man, So good, good on you. This is great. Really take my time when I'm writing stuff. I got ideas that I'll circulate and then I will write them down, and then I will step away from them for a couple of months and then come back and polish them some more and find things I don't like about it. So by the time I start shooting, I have usually a pretty well polished script, and then I will just shoot all day until I get what I want and I will improvise and then it really all comes together in the editing. And then that's also the opportunity where I have to play with different techniques. Here, I used a lot of clips, a lot more clips than I usually use. And I had a lot of green screen because I didn't have the costume, and that was difficult too. That took a lot of testing to one have the green shirt with the rolled down and have my neck sposed, but that was very difficult. To match the neck to Walter's neck did not work. So I shot stuff with the grease screen all the way up, so it's just like this, and that makes it a lot easier to put on. The only problem is I have to stay very still, and so I'm acting like this and I can't. I'm not as loose, you see, like when Chekhov's sixties check off, when a he's worrying his costume. I can move. I can do a lot of stuff. When I movie checkof, I had to be like this and what are you talking about? Absolutely not.

50:32 He is such a deabie down there. And that was the hardest thing. I was trying to stay super still and still giving myself the freedom to improvise and to be high. Energy, but not so high energy that my head is going to be bouncing. Then it. Yeah, well, thank you, And then I had to edit. I have to strip the head or make the head bigger. And then I had to tilt it certain times and make sure it fit the body right. And I had to do all sorts of like photoshopping with the and that is my actual neck. I took some footage of my neck because Walter's deck didn't look right with my face. I put fine neck on his right, on that collar, that white collar or his purple collar. I put my head on my static neck. It was a hole fun work to make that work, but it was fun. It was fun figuring it out.

51:23 Well, listen, it was a pleasure. Man, I got a bolt. I gotta duck out early everybody, but I'm really glad I was able to see your work. Andy. It's just terrific. Thank you. Yeah, just keep trying new stuff. But your instincts are phenomenal, and you got to I just wish you had more energy on camera. Rush's so restrained, so so buttoned down and restrained. You didn't go so well. No, it's try that. Thank you, Thank you so. Much much much much preferred. So I loved your brother. Take care, We'll see appreciate its.

52:05 So hey, you were you were talking earlier about your only looks were moving and we couldn't hear you, Oh can. You hear me now? Or come back? Can you hear me? Oh? Well, and I'll throw in I'll throw in it. I'm gonna have to watch that a couple more times because I was looking. Sometimes I pop in and see the see the cameras, the host and like, okay, they're almost rolling on the floor laughing so much that I, okay, miss a joke because they're not laughing so much, putting their heads down, like okay, that was just unexpected.

52:49 It's like it's another one. I'm just going to see a couple of time, just because they catch all the jokes without laughing my head off with the comments with all. That's one of the things I wanted to do is when I'm writing these, I'm always thinking about, what are the Trek Talking guys going, Like, oh, this joke going I with the Trek Talking guys, this is this reference gonna. Go over well with them. But yeah, I don't plan to post it for the public. This was the the premiere of it, and the exclusive premiere here on Trek Talking, so it's not available yet on YouTube. I think in a week, maybe maybe next Thursday.

53:32 I think there's there's there's an important date next Thursday. The Thursday after that, I might piggyback on and release it. On for the public. What you're saying, I'm thinking my Christmas. To the world because I went I went looking for on YouTube and looking at me like, oh, there's all of Andy's other other videos, this one showing you up. You must be saving it for us. Yeah, other than my wife, you all are the first ones to see it. Nice. My kids, I like to use them as pigs first. Well, welcome. I've been excited about doing for you guys.

54:14 Now you have to do the the final Frontier Checkoff's Final Frontier. Make as much as you can't. Now that I've gone into a movie checkoff mode, I figured I'm certain to reach that age. You're like, here a young twenty year old checkoff for very much longer. So I've got to be start parting the hair a little bit more. That that's still a. Check off wig, but it's the check off wig without the monkey's heads. It's told to the side and then the the problem is I don't have the uniform. I just have to check off. We'll just have to be wearing casual clothes.

54:55 You gotta do it like a fund or something. Man. I would totally trying to get you some monster maroons. Look handy, go look on eBay. I think it's cos marked. They've got some good costumes that they're they've been designing. They're not that expensive. Yeah, check that out here, he commanded the enterprise, because I. Know I've got I've got Discovery uniform. That's fabulous. Oh yeah, all right, yeah, all right, I'm trying to find. Out Nappa uniform from five here.

55:35 Anybody can you hear me? Yeah, you may have to disconnect and reconnect that we can't hear it. All okay, but I can't hear you. You're like one of those movies in Japan. All right, let me okay, let me all right, I'll be back. All right. I think yes, yeah, yeah, we're not going anywhere. Yeah. I actually enjoyed watching how your head was just kind of like on the bodies of them. And have you ever seen thumb Wars?

56:19 No? Oh wait, I think I've seen images from it, but I don't think i've seen it. Is that where they turned their heads upside down and they. Do like. They take like the pictures of the eyes and mouth and they just pushed them on the little thumb. Yeah, I haven't actually watched it. Remind you of that? All right? Yes, exactly? All right? Now can you hear me? Okay, so can I say what? Yeah, let me say what I was trying to say earlier when you mentioned uh Boz Lherman, I just I went, oh, my god, because he made one of my favorite. Movies, which is strictly ballroom Because I love that. It is because I was a ballroom dancer, a competitive ballroom dancer one hundred years ago, and so I absolutely loved that movie.

57:07 So anyway, thanks for that reference. Full disclosure, I love bad Lman. I haven't seen that film, but I do love his Roman and Juliet is a Guilty Pleasure, and I loved Moulin Rouge and I loved I like the Elvis movie too, So I took a shot at him, but I love him. Oh oh, David, did you show the picture of me with Walter Knigg? Did you show that? Did the se it? All? Right? That's a great photo, I was. He looks so different without my head on him. I know that was.

57:49 That was at a convention in Virginia Beach, where I grew up. It was a nineteen eighty four I was twenty one years old. That was before people really dressed. Up at conventions, I guess, or at least they didn't at that one. It was him and Richard Hatch from Battlestar Galactica where the guests Somewhere, I've got a picture of Richard, but I don't know where it is right now. But anyway, Yeah, it was really cool to be able to meet him. He said, nineteen eighty four, So that's like shortly after he filmed Star Trek three. Yep, was it?

58:30 Or was it because it was after he filmed Wait? What was it? I don't remember anyway, but yeah, that was that was really cool to meet him. Yeah, if we're talking Walter stories, did I ever tell you that is the story about Walter at my wedding? Yes? I can't remember, I vaguely. So. So I had a Star Trek convention in nineteen ninety three and Walter was a guest there. So it was Calonel Striking who came down to my wedding and met my guests and was a huge hit.

59:12 But Walter. I put my parents in charge of taking care of Walter. Big mistake. Be able to go down to Steve Woodstock. So he wanted to rent a car go to Woodstock. So I asked my parents, can you handle that? And you get a car from Enterprise a little joke, there no answer, and send them down to Woodstock. So my parents go off to do that. They're on the elevator with Walter at the hotel and Walter says to my mother, I comment about some books that were getting married at the convention, which was I want to play all that. We weren't getting married at the convention. We had rented the entire hotel for the convention, so Friday night they gave us the ball for free because we had rended the whole place.

1:00:03 So we had a wedding on Friday night before the convention, and the convention was on Saturday. But he said made that comment to my mother, and my mother was so pissed and she went off and I thought he was going to get in his car, go to Woodstock and never come back. I said, Mom, I asked her to do one thing. Yeah. The ugo, Yeah, Mom, exactly. You can get a little compact. But anyways, it was hilarious and it was funny. Sure, I can't wait to see the next one. I can't wait to make it storm.

1:00:57 We had who you were believe it? Sorry, but now. The show that we when you along with the Gorn and I posted it in our chat, I was, and I was. I was skimming through it. And in that skit in that episode, you were talking about this particular skit right here. So because I was alluding to this one, I think I was a big, very tight lift. If I remember, I didn't want to give it. You mentioned Chekhov's search for Spot and some time travel shenanigans in that show.

1:01:41 Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, I filmed this, this sketch, this new sketch I filmed during the summer. So I had written this a while back, and I was putting it off because I didn't have the uniforms, and I decided to just film it. And I first greeted, I tested my green screen headless acting or head acting, and then which I'm gonna. I'm gonna patent that I'm gonna become a professional head actor. And I tested that to see if it was possible, and once I was convinced that I could actually do it, I decided, Okay, I'm gonna finally film it this summer. But I had that script written probably a few years, and I've just been waiting for the opportunity to the uniforms.

1:02:23 The costumes to make it. And then decided I just I'll just do. It this way, and I shot that this summer and quickly tried to edit it so that I could have it mostly complete, knowing that I would be doing school at my grad school in this fall and I would not have any time to work on it then. And originally I thought I would haven't released on September eighth or around September eighth, but ended up I ended up having a class Thursday nights. So like, I can't do that because I promise you guys, I'm gonna premiere it on your show, and I can't do that if I haven't got a class. So I pushed it off to December, and luckily I had some minor Twinks tweets to make yesterday and got to tell him just in time for you guys.

1:03:09 Amazing. Yes, I didn't want to let out the big secret that it was all about the Star Trek three uniform or the costume, the Dutch Boy costume, So that was the thing I was being tight lipped about all those interviews. Ago and I love the as the Austin Powers music when you're going back in Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I was trying to rack my brain for the most eighties music and the most sixties music. Although funny enough, that was not my first eighties choice. My first eighties choice was wake Me Up Before You Go Go by way Am. And they used it on Strange New World. I had already edited into the sketch. It was already in the sketch, and then E Strange Your World premiered and they used it.

1:03:56 I was like, I can't use it now, everyone's gonna think I just ripped it off the streets the world. Decided to go back to the drug board and find the next most eighties song I could find. M hm oh Anny, you had mentioned to me that you're going to be doing some impron next week. Yes, So why do you want if they're in the tennis, if they're in the area, or maybe they want to fly out to Tennessee to check you out. For real, or where can they go? Where will they? Yeah? I recommend from wherever you are in the world, spend the money and fly all the way out to East Tennessee. I'll be performing at the Wallas Theater in Johnson City on Friday nights doing some improv, which I've been I've been aching to get back into a lot of improv out in Los Angeles and trained at the Ground Wings and UCB and LA Connection, and I just haven't had as much opportunity to do it out here, So I'm very excited.

1:04:51 To get back into it. Well, that was original improv came from Rush originally. Right, Absolutely is improvinski Rush. Whenever we were trying to get off the tumble, we had to invent something off the top of our heads. Yes, and in Ski. In fact, if you want to talk to Walter, I think he's next door in the boiler room. No way, is he really? Did I say, Walter, I make check out. If you want to talk to check out? Yeah, all right, let me let me go see. I better go check on him. Anyways, I think his shift is almost over. Guys want to talk to you? What guys the trip talking.

1:05:37 Guys trip talking the ones who talk about Star Trek. No, no, they've got lives, They got lives. They just enjoyed talking about Star Trek. Yeah no, yeah, yeah, you remember them. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, you went to the one guy's wedding. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. It's good to see about Oh. So good. That's absolutely. I've been in the boiler room all day. I've got blisters all over my fingers. Oh terrible. My hair is all message. You're like, oh, look like I've been inside like a turbine engine, just going over and over and over. I feel it looks kind of cool.

1:06:23 I kind of like Justin Bieber. Eh yeah, very contemporary, very contemporary. I tried to say, you know, well, not for me. It's not contemporary. For me, it's very old. It makes me oldies station at classical music. Absolutely, although I do stay. Up on my references. I even go into the future to get references before they are made, like two bis. Because I need to say yeah, I'm. How Also, I'm twenty two years old, I'm the cool one. I'm not on the hit one. I'm on tiger beats, so I need to be up with the reference is too big Michael Burnham old reference, but also a new reference during the second century or so.

1:07:08 Right here, I feel like a time traveled. He joined the join the party. I love time traveling except when it involves my older self. Oh my god, that guy. I can't believe Quicker Oats. Hey, that's not me. I'm a twenty two year old. That's the old farts from the eighties. I'm the hot in sixties. Checkof that's that's old twenty two eighties. Oh yuppie, checkofn Well, you wouldn't catch me caught dead dressing like that.

1:07:49 I don't know that. That time we met in nineteen eighty four, you will look pretty good. You were wearing a nice shirt. Yeah, I wasn't wearing the Quicker Oats sounds fit. I'll tell you that because the young bide. This guy here said don't wear it. It's I'm gonna throw And apparently, eventually in the nineteen or the twenty two eighties, I get some sense and realized, hey, I better not wear this outfit anymore. And in fact, if you know this, I went ahead and I watched the future tapes. If you know this, even in the middle of that movie, I change outfits, and one second I looked like Quaker Oats, I look like Prince if he was uphill group. And then two.

1:08:29 Seconds later there goes the collar is gone. It's still the pink outfit, but the collar is gone. Movies and the next movie poop leather jacket, leather pants, totally rocking it. Yeah, I look like Jim Morrison. The next movie Russian Jim Mortrison was that was that. Kind of a coarse correction Pavel from Star Trek three to Star Trek four, like giving you the opportunity to resort of embrace the coolness that is Chekhov. Absolutely, because I came into the enterprise it is to cool, you know, I mean the young demographic, you know, starts meet demographic, and then there I am in the twenty two eighties pushing forty, dressing like some sort of weird amish guy, but like pink amish.

1:09:16 And so it took me young me. I know this is getting very confusing. This is like back to the future too now, but it's it took me telling me not to dress like me was dressing, to really think about, oh, maybe me shouldn't do this anymore. And then I started dressing cool. And you see that happen in the movie. I changed my mind in the movie this because that's when I traveled back in time. You could see the point where future me travels back and gets a tongue whipping from currents met and then goes back. Into his. Tongue whipping. Tongue whipping. Yes, I weeped in with my tongue. I hope that doesn't mean something else in America.

1:09:59 In Raska mean I give. A stern talking to when you whip your tongue at someone. And you give them a top. Oh my god, at the very Russian s frace. You never heard the friend. No, it's been perverted by English. English always messing up the things for us Russians. And it's a very noble thing to say. Yes, I am going to go tongue whip that person over there. They cut in front of me at the John but juice, and I'm going to go whip them with my tongue. It's a very normal occurrence.

1:10:41 Who thank you. I needed that laugh. I needed that. I feel like I feel like this video was also the first time that we actually saw you with a tool that I assume must be part of you know, your regular routine every single day, given that you spend so much of your time in the boiler room. But tell us more about your favorite shovel. Oh, yes, my favorite shovel. I call him Ivan the shovel. I take him with me, and wherever I go, he goes with me. When I go digging in the boiler room, when I come home from digging in the boiler room, also walking fool the boiling room in the morning.

1:11:24 I guess it's really just when I have to go to the boiler room that I have. Actually I kind of hate that shovel. It reminds me of the boiler room, now that you mention it. Waitit but is it? But is it a hate in the sense of hate or is it a hate in the sense of, you know, actually have a deep affection for but just are kind of annoyed by the inadequacies that you might have yourself that don't quite measure up to Ivan. No, I've just freaking it. It represents all the manual labor that kitting Kirk makes me do it just because I insulted him. Oh you have a sexual part that boom somehow. I'm in the boiler room shoveling coal and erics who has three arms? Oh yeah, three? Oh, he could press a couple extra buttons that I can't press.

1:12:11 He reaches all ninety nine percent of the board and I only get sixty six percent into the board. Oh, who do you know what? I guarantee you I'm going to boil him alive before we get to the movies. Why you never see him again. I'm gonna put him in a big giant pot and serve bots to the. Crew and they will never know who they are eating. That's the Russian We call that the Russians bait and switch. Just out of curiosity, pobble, did you did you ever have a serious girlfriend? Because I have a feeling that if you'd had somebody really special in your life, maybe maybe you wouldn't have an odd relationship with a shuffle.

1:12:57 I don't wait, who said anything about an odd relationship with the shovel? I just take it to work. I don't know you're flying. Although I did once have a love. Her name was Irena. In fact, eagle eyed viewers will catch her photo in the room next to where I was standing in the video. Oh whoa, Yeah, there's. One clip at the end when I go and get their wine. You can see a photo of her, and you can see a photo of my son with me. That's amazing. Yeah, oh definitely after the tong whipping, that's how you keep them. But yeah, there's actually a couple of Easter eggs in there. I don't know if you noticed. There was a photo of me with my shovel in right beside the twenty two eighties me. There's that photo there and the wine bottle which was a payment but get that thing to work in there, And then on the other side there was the shovelcraft bed that Anton Chekhov sleeps in, and then there was a photo of being a coon Anton at Disney, and then a photo of Irena, which is also a callback to our christ misadventure. Now I heard a little birdie saying that I should do a Star Trek five sketch.

1:14:28 You would make exactly one percast. Very doop. People. If I get to be the captain for even if I get to be kipt In of the Enterprise for even one five minutes stretch, I'm just the thing kipty much. That's pretty good, Oh Pabo, you. Can be in command for for tensies, so thank you do. I get to have a big toy driving wheel and lots of little beeping toys that I can press the pink. I'm in charge of the big space ship that contest sending to bay wearing us. You know, steck Off, you and Deanna Troy might have a lot in common in terms of very short stints operating, you know, starships and being in the captain's chair. And you know.

1:15:23 I have never crashed. Yeah, I haven't crashed any. Yet, I am, but I'm just saying. O, thank so. Maybe I don't know. I'm not a very good driver, so it could happen, although I will find a way to blame Sumo. Make it look like an accidental accident. That's true. I did crash yourself, But I mean, does that really cappen? Boy? If you're crashing yourself a Crafts every week and nobody gets upset with him, it's almost like our rights of passage to crass a shallow crass spot. Do you think it's because that you're always constantly looking over your shoulder for killing everic?

1:16:09 It might be. Now I'm looking over You've got me looking over my shoulder. Now now I'm worried. It could be I'm a very nervous driver and shuttle crasher and it shoulder thing. Mm hmm. Uh. Don't forget tongue lasher. Yes, I could do tongue lashing as well, but I prefer the tongue weeping. You're rushing. Uh, why can we expect another skip? I don't know. It could be a while, It could be a while. And he tells me that he has more schooling.

1:16:57 See in Russia, you have one year of schooling, two years of potato farming, and three years of glooming your head, and then. You're ready to turn starfleet. It's a very very easy system. And when we graduate, we all get up on the roof and we sings Fiddler on the roof. Yeah, it's part of it. I don't make followed. Rides. Get checking. Oh god, you singing?

1:17:45 Maybe maybe maybe you should? Maybe you should keep your day shop. I think so, not a shoveling cold. I don't want to keep that. Then now a gator, Now we gator? Yeah, got it? How we get there? Although I would settle for being kitten of the Enterprise. That'll be my backup. Well, you were captain of the Enterprise and starts for five for a few minutes. Yeah, a few fake minutes the captain. So I guess I was really just an actor. Oh hey, I'm the kiptain now, hey, sydebalk, Hey I'm in charge. I'm gonna blow you up. Don't do that. But you just saved the ship though, I guess sort of maybe a little bit, not really though, I.

1:18:37 Mean I I phoned him for. Like two seconds, that's true. I was responsible for that. A little quick zooming before that, that green booger torpedo almost hit USA. Does anyone else called out to cling on? And we're having torpedos that look like s not rockets? Kay? Uh well I do now, Yeah, you. Won't see it. I watched that movie. Sorry, uncle Jim, I watched. Oh oh oh, that's always fun to talk to pau.

1:19:25 Leaving new anything happens that you can tell us. Some Let's see Anton, he's off in school training for the U n She doesn't exist anymore. But it's it's actually now to the United Nations. It's the United uh hm, I'm trying to think of something. Like Nosti cans. Yeah, I've got one right up here. Yeah, oh. High to him. Mm hmm wow, that's really cool.

1:20:08 It's very cool. It was sitting next to you. I mean, yeah, he's guarding me. That's my bodyguard. Mm hmmm. Wow, that's too funny because I said naught Kain, just thinking that's the first thing that came and you have one that's too awesome. It's true. Yeah my body. Guys. He's wearing a Miami Dolphins uniform too. In case anyone's doing there. Anton's off to school. Irena she's visiting her parents. So it's just me and I'm in the shovel. But not like that.

1:20:50 It's just a stuggle. Sure it is. Well, except when it gets cold and lonely. What's that ivan? It's cold and lonely right now? What? I guess I must be off. I'll send Andy back. My shovel's calling by Jacob. Oh my god, I needed that laughter. Oh my god. Yeah you're doing with that shovel. Look at me. I'm texting for shoveling cold. This is private time. Who told you could have? You told me to come over here, Pobbly said they needed me back. No, no, no, no, I was just nothing to the boiler room. They kept beneath me. Don't look at me. I don't know what I'm doing. Bye, I don't know what you guys. Stay there.

1:21:47 That guy, I mean, we just kept saying the word shovel, and he just kind of got hot and bothered. I don't really know what happened. He does have a special relationship. Yeah, he will deny it. Out what they did when I when I brought it up. Yeah, when you're alone in the boiler room, things get weird. So I've been told. Mm hm, so this nots akad he he didn't mention you all asking about the that is actually from the The Star Trek experience. Oh wow, they were auctioning it off and uh, my friend Richard Arnold was being tasked with, i think, authenticating the uniforms that were being auctioned off, and they had, uh, all the if you remember, if you ever went to the The Star Trek experience, if you remember all the mannequins wearing legitimate screen warning uniforms.

1:22:45 They were auctioning off the uniforms and then throwing away the mannequins. But the mannequins have legitimate Michael Westmore makeup. That is actual Michael Westmore makeup. It's just not the same kind of screen stuff it's got. It's like a I'm like a foamy stuff. So it's not the late ext They must have done something to it to make it last longer. But that's actual Michael Westmore. Oh makeup he made for these for the experience, and I managed to snag this one. And I snagged a Romulan woman for my dad because they were just getting rid of them. I don't take that, Andy, I think so. Yeah, they did walk. They can auction him.

1:23:30 Yes, Andy, want to hear some interesting news. Yes, now lives in Guess who now lives in Las Vegas? You do? Michael Westmore. Michael Westmore, Michaels Vegas. He came to the US Las Vegas Is Club meeting last month with his oscar. Oh the story that night. Yeah, if I had an Oscar, I would not go anywhere without it.

1:24:12 Yeah, that's awesome. Well, you could tell him I've got his nos again. Nice him. I think I think about next time I see him, because he says he's going to come back. Oh nice, nice, that's awesome. Yeah, I bet he's got a buch of great stories. You gotta get him on the. Shoe mm hmm, get him a future and then that might be a future in Denver because he has got well it's just not only him, but the Westmore family. The whole family is incredible.

1:24:56 H Well, I think we got to move on. We gotta have a finish shout outs. We're gonna get to our birthdays and chat says. If we get onto that, we're about to say that to next week. Sure we'll see. I thought we can go well, and thank you so much for hanging out and say us and thank for with us as well. When you know, thank you. Now, I put it in the shool. I'm not going anywhere near him for the next thirty minutes. He's got a sock on the boiler room, got it.

1:25:44 Well, I can't even talk. Oh my god, oh gosh, I'm gonna I'm. Gonna pay my lesson Finy the sparky space on. My weary space pants, space pants, Barkley space pants. I don't want to be space. But it was so nice to me too. Thank you for. That. Oh my gosh, that awesome. O. Thank you. I hope my makeup all right.

1:26:24 Yeah, I can't wait. I've always have such a blast. I'm on here with you guys. Wait until Academy premiere. Yes, come back and chat with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. I can't wait to talk about it. So that question I next semester, I think I have another Thursday night class a little bit, you. Guys, A couple of semesters. Yeah, well I graduated in May and then. Done with school then just yeah, school, but done with school.

1:27:06 All right. Quick question on your when I was reading your information, you said when you went out to California, you use the money to buy a car, and it was money that your parents had saved for your college since you were a baby. What kind of car was it? And was it worth it to use that money? Fourth of car? Not as impressive as you would Okay, with that saving since I was born, I think it ended up it was enough to buy a used forward uh consort. Okay, a blue Ford concert this color blae and it survived the trip out to LA and then maybe lasted h several months after that.

1:27:52 I put it. So it did it's study. It got it got me to Los Angeles. That's well spent. All right. Good, thanks for answering that. I was very curious, absolutely nineteen ninety six, the entire plug in there for it. Thank you so much, Andy. We definitely want have you again for sure. So yeah, good to see you, and. Thank you guys. You absolutely.

1:28:33 Oh god, guys, that was Andy Bray. That was. That was freaking I hope my makeup isn't running. I was laughing so hard. I just. That was funny, definitely fun Oh yeah, so let's jump in and get our fans shout outs out of the way here. Well, we usually start off the show with fans shout we'll do them here in the middle and who's gonna fall and we'll just have. Yeah, I can take balls too, All right, let's start out, all right. Our first fan shout out this week goes out to spinn Eric Nielsen, who is hailing from Narvik in northern Norway.

1:29:19 Oh my gosh, thank you so much for saying hello to us. Spin all the way from northern Norway. It sounds very cold but very very beautiful up there, but you get a lot of Aurora borealis and that kind of stuff, don't you. Anyway, thanks for your support of our podcast. Another person who supports our podcast like crazy is Michael Higgstrom Michael Higgstrum, who also hails from those northern areas Finland, in this case in the Nordic hemisphere. Nordic hemisphere. I like that idea of a Nordic hemisphere. Michael, Thank you so much for saying hello. To us and for supporting our podcast. Top fan Ernando Sanchez is saying hello to us from Bogota, Colombia. A earns that top fan Moniker by interacting with us a lot on our Facebook page, and we do appreciate that support. And last but not least, on my list, we've got Gabby Deutsch.

1:30:11 And Gabby Deutsch is hailing from believe it or not, Deutschland. Yeah, Berlin. Yeah, Gabby. It's like me being named Eric American, so that doesn't for my list. V Who would you like to say hello to? First off, I have Mark Center, who is saying hello from Of course it was perfectly time. Alison Keller, Tennessee. Thank you for saying hi. As Next, David I, Colorado.

1:30:54 Always wanted to go to Colorado. Here we go? Are we back? Okay? All right? Okay? Then, last but not least, Rachel Harris krala check from South Dakota, USA. Well, thank you so much. We really appreciate you. All right now I will send it off to Charles. Oh, thank you. The Let's start off the warm Welcome to Simon Rancourt from Montreal Club back William Shatner's birthplace. Welcome Simon Welcome Chris Dorn from Fairborne, Ohio.

1:31:40 Welcome Donnie. Hey, uh Fairspholis. I'm originally from Oklahoma and I'm currently living in Western Washington. Hopefully you're saying dry Donnie, and welcome Robert Vernon from Basset, ver Ginia, Live Long and prosper and gives it the Falcon sign. Welcome Robert Eric, who's on Paul's list. All right, We're saying hello this week to crazy Elk, who's saying hello to us from Roklaw in Poland. We do have quite a bit of support for the podcast over there in Eastern Europe and we appreciate your support. Raziek, thank you so much for saying hello to us this week.

1:32:28 Also saying hello this week to Jose Benito, who's hailing from Alacante, Spain. I have not been to Alacante, but I've been to Barcelona and that is a cool, cool town. Jose. Maybe I'll have to swing by Alicante one of these days and see what's going on there. Top fan that Maya Dudes is saying hello to us from Kaiserslauten in Deutschland, sending us that Live Long and prosper sign, which I know is exactly what attracted Jim's attention. Maya is a top fan, which means, of course that she also interacts a lot with us on our Facebook page, So we really appreciate that. Maya Ludus from Kausislaught in Germany. And last but not least on this list, Andrea Ciarlo, who hails from Alessandria, Italy, land of much food and delicious drink.

1:33:17 Ray Jim absolutely and I want to continue on and say thank you so much for being a supporter of a podcast to Joseph Wing who's listening to us somewhere in upstate New York, could be anywhere, we don't really care. Thank you so much, Joseph. We also want to say thank you to Ken Weir, who says I'm from Alberto, Canada and I'm a treky, well so are we. Thank you so much, Ken. We also want to say hello and thank you to Wyatt Stone, who's from Georgia and flashes to live long and prosper. Thank you so much to Wyatt. And last but definitely not least on my list, I want to say thank you and welcome to David Jones from Rush, Colorado. You guys can find yourselves on our polls on our fan shout out list by visiting Trek Talking and Beyond and look for the pin post at the top.

1:34:12 Tell us where you're from. Leave lots of emojis. It gets my attention. If you see a heard next few name from yours truly, Uncle Jim, you will be featured in the future fan shout out. Also, you can over to trek Talking dot com. There's a little green top right there. You can also leave us a message there. We'll play it on the podcast. And if you want to become a patron on our Patreon page, there's a link there as well. And if you cough up the two whole dollars, you can send us a picture and we'll put it up there on the screen. There's me and my daughter and some dude holding my ballot and trek Conder roga and you can send us your pictures and we'll get them right up there on the screen for all the world to see. And there's Paul shaking hands with a Feringhi. He's got the lobes for business, so keep that in mind as well.

1:34:57 And we're not gonna we're not going to have any this week. We're gonna bump over the next week, Uncle Jim. Trivia is going to be next week. So we are gonna jump right into our Star Trek birthdays. And you know what that means. That means, Yes, that was not a. Clean out song, all right, guys. I cut back on the birthdays quite a bit because I wanted to fit Andy in here and so there's not as many. And I also I want to start off with Eric because we always like to remember those memories.

1:35:45 Of our family who are no longer with us. So take it away, Eric, Jim. We have seven remembrances this week. The first is actor Ted Knight, who voiced the part of Carter Winston in the Star Trek animated series first season episode The Survivor. However, he received no screen credits, so don't look for his name in the credits. Of course. He's probably best known for playing the buffoonish newscaster Ted Baxter on the nineteen seventy through nineteen seventy seven CBS series Mary Tyler Moore, but also appeared in that nineteen eighty series Too Close for Comfort. He of course, also made appearances in myriad television shows throughout the seventies and eighties and showed upon the big screen in nineteen eighties Caddy Shack as Judge Elio Smails. So Ted Knight, Happy birthday to you and we do miss you and thanks for your contributions to the animated series. Happy Birthday as well to Heather Margaret brother Stone Menzius Uriic. I felt like I needed to use all of her names. Yeah, she's a Canadian actress, not from Star Trek, however, known for her roles as Luisa von Trapp in that nineteen sixty five film The Sound of Music. Perhaps you've heard of that. She also played Jessica six in the TV series Logan's Run, and looking through her IMDb I found five episodes of Dragnet as well, and just lots and lots of other guest appearances on both television and film thirty nine in total. Happy birthday to Heather Menzias, Happy

1:37:18 birthday as well to Ned Romero, the actor who appeared in episodes of Star Trek, the original series, Next Generation and Voyager. He was Krell in tos As a Private Little War and Thwara in TNG's Journey's End, and in Voyagers The Fight, he was Chacote's grandfather. Ned Romero, of course, is a Chitmacha Native American person of that ancestry. Graduated from Louisiana State and originally started his career as an opera singer, believe it or not, But after twenty years on the stage doing opera and other musical stuff, he decided to try his hand at acting in the in television, and so from the sixties through the nineties he had over eighty guest appearances on various television shows and then eventually got a few feature films under his belt as well.

1:38:09 Some of them you might have heard of, Hang Them High from nineteen sixty eight, Yeah, Mark of the Gun from nineteen sixty nine, Children of the Corn to The Final Sacrifice. So Ned Romero all over the place. Thank you so much for your contributions to Star Trek and beyond. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to Tony Todd, the actor who portrayed Wharf's brother Kern in four episodes of Star Trek the Next Generation and Deep Space nine, and in the video game Star Trek the Next Generation Cling On Honor Guard and also on Star Trek Online. He also portrayed different characters and episodes of Deep Deep Space nine and Voyager. He auditioned six times for various roles on the Next Generation, including Levore in The Price, before winning the role of Kern.

1:38:53 He was one of several actors considered for the role of Benjamin Sisco and provided the voice, of course been for the video game Star Trek Elite Force Two. Lots of cool stuff to say about Tony Todd, but the one that people often talk about is his thirty six foot five frame. Best remembered for his extensive credits in the horror movie genre. He was in nineteen ninety two's Candy Man, lots and lots of other stuff, but I like to talk about his non horror stuff, including Star Trek Axinar and then eventually guess where he appeared, Jim, That's right. In twenty nineteen, he appeared on The Orville as a Macklin Ambassador in the episode Sanctuary. Soyn't be that bad of a show. It's got Tony Todd. Happy birthday to Tony Todd, Happy birthday as well to Vlaura Noland, the stage name of Valor Baum, the former actress who played Daras in the TOS second season episode Patterns of Force.

1:39:54 In addition to star Trek. Nolan was seen on such television shows as The Rifleman, Laramie Wagon t The Man from Uncle, and The Virginian. Nolan left Los Angeles and the acting business all together in January nineteen sixty eight, soon after finishing Patterns of Force, which marked her last work on television or film. After that, she was active as a photographer and author under the name Vlaura Tree. So Vlaura Noland, Volura Baum, Valora Tree, check her out all the same person. Happy birthday, Laura, Happy birthday. As well to Rex Holman, the actor who played Morgan Ierp in the TOS third season episode Specter of the Gun and John in Star Trek What is V? I don't I've never heard of Star Trek V before anyway, some movie.

1:40:45 Holman was originally cast as Virgil Irp, Inspector of the Gun. However, the original actor played playing Morgan Irp was fired after the first day of shooting due to his drug complaints, and Holman was recast in the role, while Charles Maxwell was hired to pay Virgil. So, I just think that's a great story. He was going to be the Other Earth but edded up as the other one because he wasn't on drugs. In nineteen seventy, Holman recorded an album on the Pentagram label called Here in the Land of Victory. It featured a mix of country, blues and Eastern influenced folk music. So not just an actor but also a singer. Rex Holman multi talented. We just lost him at the beginning of this year January ninth, twenty twenty five, at the age of eighty nine years old. Happy Birthday to Rex, and last but not least, on our remembrance list, we honor John Colicos, the Canadian actor who played Core, the Klingon Core, the first major Klingon that we ever see in Star Trek, of course, originating the role in the first season episode Airned of Mercy. Colicos was to return as Core in both The Trouble with Tribles and Day of the Dove, but scheduling conflicts made that impossible. Regardless, he was able to report prize the role of Core three more times on Star Trek Deep Space nine. In a career that spanned over five decades, Colicos performed in nearly one one hundred film and television projects. His appearance is Core in the Deep Space nine seven season episode

1:42:15 once More Into the Breach in nineteen ninety eight, was among his last acting roles. But if you don't remember him from Star Trek, you'll probably remember him from Battlestar Galactica. That's right, the original traitorous Count Baltar in the original Battlestar Galactica. Same guy. But maybe you're not into science fiction at all and you remember him from soap Opera's. Soap opera fans from the eighties may recall him as Mikos Cassadine with wife Helena, portrayed by Constance Towers Madman, a madman bent undestroying General Hospitals port Charles, that's probably where I actually saw him first. I'm not gonna lie so John Colico's Happy Birthday to him, and that, you guys, is the last of our seven remembrances this week. So I'm going to pass this fleeming birthday candle over to Charles.

1:43:05 Oh, thank you, Eric. Let's start out with a Happy Birthday to Kimberley Browman, actress who portrayed Madeline and Star Trek two thousand and nine and Star Trek Into Darkness. Happy Birthday to Samora Smallwood, Canadian actress who played Lieutenant Ariam in Star Trek Discovery second seasons episodes such Sweet Sorrow, Such Sweet Sorrow Part two and Star Trek short tracks Q and A. I think one of the fun episodes was Q and A. This one.

1:43:45 Thank you Jim forgiving me this one. Happy birthday to Katherine Tate, English actress, writer comedian Mada, who portrayed Donna Noble alongside the tenth Doctor David Tennant and doctor who, including Eric would know this reference of Doctor Donna. She was definitely a very interesting companion. Happy birthday to Rachel. I want to talk about this just for one second. What exactly is a companion? Does the doctor. I hope you guys thirty minutes here, okay, okay, the doctor chooses to have somebody he travels with, and the people he travels with we get to see every week every episode is tendency to be a companion.

1:44:41 Or two we've also had a canine. What's companion? Go ahead, Eric and Jim. I think I think the important thing to understand about doctor here, the real reason that he has a companion is that doctor who is the last well not really but like theoretically he's the last time Lord alive after the destruction of his planet. Right, So he's an incredibly in his heart, he's an incredibly lonely individual who feels like he's kind of in the universe alone. And one of the reasons that he does so much good for people is that it makes him feel good about himself and it makes him feel like he's got companionship. And so he actually chooses to bring a companion or companions along with him simply because otherwise he gets incredibly lonely.

1:45:32 Cool, I can do it, yep, all right. And finally, on the miss happy Birthday to Rachel arc arc Curl. He played Commander d Naha in Discovery she was recruiting, was reoccurring guest star in the second season and a Ringler cast member in the third season. She returns a guest star in episodes the fourth and fifth season. Definitely an interesting character of who the character she played in there.

1:46:14 Me, who do you have on Paul's list? All right? First, I have Jin Maylee, who played ensign esmar in the third season of Picard and Malee is non binary and uses they them pronouns. And this Mama Bear sends out, I send my love to Jin because this world can be not so kind to people that. You know, don't don't fit the mold, but anyway. Next, I have Leon Russom, who played the Commander in chief named Bill in Star Trek sixth The Undiscovered Country, not Star Trek five, but Star Trek six. Next Amanda tapping on to show that I got so into during the pandemic because that's all I could get on my television.

1:47:16 But it's a great show. She was in Stargate SG one and at sin Off, Stargate Atlantis, and Stargate Universe as Doctor Samantha Carter. Next Terry Hatcher, the actress who played b g. Robinson in Next Gym's second season episode The Outrageous O'Connor. She's also known for starring as Lois Lane on Lois and Clark The New Adventures of Superman. Then Melissa Rockburgh, she played Still in Star Trek Beyond.

1:47:58 And last, certainly not least, we have Stacy Abrams, American politician from Georgia who made a guest appearance as the President of United Earth in the Star Trek Discovery fourth season episode Coming Home. So happy birthday to all of those fine folks. Past the Flaming birthday candle onto Uncle Jim. Well, I thank you so much. B I save the Quingons for myself. I do have one major major Klingon. But I have a few other honorable mentions who could be Klingons, but honorant. First of all, I want to say happy birthday to Melodie Anderson. She's the Canadian former actors, social worker and public speaker specializing in impact of addiction on families. Her most hofile, high profile role was playing Ardent in nineteen eighties adaptation of Flash Gordon. She also appeared in Logan's Run the series as Sheila in the episode Carousel, and Battlestar Galactica is Brenda Maxwell in the episode Experiment in Tara. And Yes, I want to throw this in there, David, I just wanted to remind you that the Queens did the music for Flash Gordon. I kept thinking, we can't forget about the Queens. I just

1:49:39 love Flash Gordon Too, is one of my favorite movies. Next on my list, I want to say Jeff Bridges, known for playing Kevin Flynn in the Tron legacy movies, including Sean Aris and Tron the Original. He also appears as Scott Hayden with Karen Allen, Yes bat Karen Allen from Raiders of the Lost art as Jenny in the nineteen eighty four movie Starman, directed by John Carpenter. And I threw that one in there for myself because my very first date with my wife was to see Tron way way back in the day cutting edge technology back then.

1:50:22 She hated the movie, hates it to this day. I love it so and any chance to throw Tron in there and I jump on it. All right. I told you I had a Klingon, and here he is. It wasn't for this guy, it probably wouldn't be a Star Trek fan here today doing Trek time. I want to say happy birthday and comply to the one the only there. He is brother of Mogue Michael Dorn himself. He's an active director, producer, and writer, best known for a portrayal of Wharf on tnng es nine and four Star Trek films. He also portrayed Wharf's namesake, Colonel Wharf and Star Trek six Undiscovered Country. And I got to say the first time I saw Star Trek the Next Generation and I saw a Klingon on the bridge, I was like, oh, my god, this show is going to be incredible. I got to find out what the deal is.

1:51:21 Why is there a klingon sitting on the bridge of the flagship of the United Federation of Planets. And from that moment on, yes, I've been hooked, waving my ballot all over the place and letting people touch it if they if they want to, dressing up as a clean on, which I still do to this day, all because of Michael Dorn. So thank you so much, Michael Dorn and wat and the Happy Birthday two years. Jim, don't forget you missed one spot. One of our favorite lines from Bicard. The beheadings are on Wednesday. The headings on Wednesday, but don't miss chuck talking Thursday.

1:52:06 Yeah, well, don't don't get on Wednesday. Don't get beheaded on Wednesday. The first, the first convention I went to see to meet Michael down and I dressed up as wolf. And this is way way way back in the early nineties, and you weren't allowed to get a picture taken with the stars. You just went up autographically. So I went into the end of the line and asked him for a picture. So he posted a picture with me and then I ran across to the photo man. Yeah, they had these little, these little huts in the middle of the parking. Had the film develop overnight picked him up the next day, had the develop went back to the convention and had him sign the picture of me with the day before.

1:52:52 I still have that picture tacking around here somewhere. That was my first big Star Trek convention because I just love war that much. Ah, right, guy, it is time for our Star Trek News, and I think we have time for at least one story, maybe two, we'll see. And we always start off our Star Trek News with Eric. So Eric, you've got our first story here. All right, We're going to start this week with our favorite segment. Shatners is William Shanner shares a story about his first show on Broadway. William Shatner has revealed he crapped his pants on stage in the opening night of his Broadway So I don't feel like I need to read anymore. I think that's it.

1:53:41 Well, can I say that when I was at the convention in September, I heard the story live and it involved he wanted to eat something healthy the night and. He ate fish and it was bad. And that made him terribly terrible. Well, V may have just spoiled the story. Let's see. The Star Trek actor spoke of the mishap due to an audience due to a special screening of Star Trek to the rather gone at the Golden State Theater in Monterey, California. He said he was battling stomach issues when he took to the stage for his one man show titled Shatner's World We Just Live In It, an autobiographical two hour performance in twenty twelve. The actor had called in help from doctor Oz, but it wasn't enough and he had an accident, telling the audience there had been a technical difficulty.

1:54:32 What started as a typical Q and A session quickly saw Shatner get refreshingly candid about the realities of live theater. All of a sudden, I have to go, Shatner said, In fact, I'm going to use the past tense. I had gone opening night on Broadway. I had crapped my pants, so I said, all right, there's been a technical difficulty, and I'll be right back. Things were coming out of me. I didn't know existent chatting her left and cleaned up before returning to steal the show, which he said was very successful, and onlooker filmed the storytelling session. They said, I just started filming him when he was starting. When he started talking about that, an audience members said, everybody was laughing their butts off. It was really funny, pretty hilarious.

1:55:22 So V got to hear this story live. I thought it was even. Not really I did. I did not record it. Actually, I was in the thing that takes me off. I was in line waiting to ask a question, and when he'd ask a question, he'd answer the question and then go off into I forgot what made him go off into that story. But and then right after that, they said, oh, we're sorry, we can't answer any more questions. And I was like, I was the next person in line, and I got I couldn't answer ask it. So I'm sort of bitter about that. No I'm not.

1:56:04 I'm kidding, But yeah, that was something I probably could have gone my whole life without the. Yeah, so bad fish. That's that's apparently what he ate. So all right, cool, we have a story. He asked me, Holy ship is shot m H where he got pulled. Over by Oh yeah, yeah, that's he got pulled over by the cops. But that was like a long time ago. Yeah, but I don't. Think they said Holy should have shot It wasn't that the story. Yeah, the last the last show we did yet, but I don't think.

1:56:48 You know, shouting or clapping and stuff. I thought this was what I did. Anyways, the Guys podcast for tonight and next week we're going to be wrapping up on episode nine. We'll finish that up. And I just want to say thank you so much to Andy Bray for hanging out and Trek talking with us. It was great to talk to Andy and Pavel check Off as well. It was fun to hear from Thank you so much, guys, and thank you so much to Be for hanging out and Shrek. Talking with us. Well, thank you so much for of course. Thank you so much to Eric for hanging out and Trek talking with us.

1:57:33 And thank you so much, Eric, absolutely good times as always. And thank you so much to Charles with the leaving palm trees. Thank you Charle. Oh, thank you, Jim. Expect you talking to Andy and he's always worth talking to. He is funny, and thank you so much to do well. Thank you so much. David. Love the shirt by the way. Oh thanks, I've had a lot of fun and and you were great. A lot of the stuff that we talked about great. We'll be back next week in the same BAT time, same BAT channel. Now. Thanks and hosts Uncle Jim saying everybody please stay safe and be good to each other. Ailing frequencies are closed, good night, everybody, live along and prosper.

1:58:25 All stags ready for departure, sir, some problem, riker. I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way emissions will go, say oh no, no, what Actually, most will be much more. In used to. Let's see what's out mm hmm. And I took guys