Oct. 10, 2025

Episode 657 Khan audio drama episode 2 "Scheherazade" review

Episode 657 Khan audio drama episode 2 "Scheherazade" review
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In this episode of Trek Talk and Beyond, Uncle JIm and the hosts engage in lively discussions about various Star Trek topics, including fan shout outs, community engagement, and the latest Star Trek polls. They delve into the decisions made in Star Trek Discovery, particularly focusing on Captain Giorgio's diplomatic approach versus Burnham's more aggressive stance. The episode also features trivia questions that test the hosts' knowledge of sci-fi and Star Trek lore, providing a fun and educational experience for listeners. In this episode, the hosts engage in a lively discussion about Star Trek trivia, character development in the Star Trek radio drama, and the themes of vulnerability and leadership. They explore the value of filler episodes, celebrate the birthdays of notable Star Trek actors, and share exciting news about upcoming Star Trek projects. The conversation highlights the importance of character depth and the evolving nature of storytelling within the Star Trek universe.
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Now, Well, good evening Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe.

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But it's Thursday, October ninth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode

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six hundred and fifty seven of trek Talking and Beyond.

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And we're gonna go beyond tonight, don't you worry. We're

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going beyond, way beyond.

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With with consent, with consent, Yeah.

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We're gonna We're gonna be going beyond. So we're gonna

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have some fun.

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We are gonna help body no Prime.

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But before we go too far, though, I would like

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to introduce my awesome treks Berths. We're gonna start off

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with Paul. Paul is out in the war ravaged Portland

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area where I hear it's just a war zone every day.

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You got a fight for milk and bread.

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That's right. I had to pull a lot of like

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big soap bubbles off of my inflatable rabbit costume today.

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It was I almost didn't make it back here to

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the studio. So it it's crazy. Yeah, there's there's plastic bags,

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there's you know, squirrel feces. It's a it's a mess.

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I mean, you never would believe how war ravage Portland is.

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It is just terrible. So uh hey, you know, let's

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not forget. I want to send a special momentary shout

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out to all our friends in New York Comic Con,

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right because right now is New York Comic Con the

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next So there's one of fans out there. Maybe some

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of them are crammed into a bathroom fall listening to

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our podcast. I like to picture that.

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Happened as one does.

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That's one does. But yeah, I thinks are good. I

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hope we survived the weekend. So thanks Christine.

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Okay, all right, and also from Portland, we have our

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very own Eric and how you doing?

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Eric?

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I'm doing good man. I got my battle armor on tonight,

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ready to take to the streets and eat some swarma.

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It should be a good time.

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And also from Portland, he's got his helmet on. He's

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ready for battle as well. We have David. He's our

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miracle work. Or how you doing tonight, David?

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I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. It's been quite a day.

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I had a lot to do, but I got through it.

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I'm here for a fun time. Who want to have fun?

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You didn't storm the castle, did you?

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Well? What do you think I got this right?

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I'm looking behind you there and not from Portland, but

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from Virginia, we have v. How you doing tonight?

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V I am doing all right. We finally have some cooler,

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dryer weather, so I'm very happy. So I'm not melting

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like I have been this last week because like, who

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has eighty degrees in October?

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Yeah, it's supposed to go down into the twenties here

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in Vermont, so it's supposed to be real cold tonight.

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And last, but definitely not least from Las Vegas, we

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have our very own Charles. How you doing tonight? Charles,

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I'm doing good and joined.

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The weather's in the eighties and not nineties plus, though

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we might see some seventies next week, but in the

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in the inside studio because the monsoons are passing through

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because of the latest hurricane in the Pacific, so the

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weather's unpredictable.

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Yeah, you have that. In October, you have that. So guys,

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you can head over to our Patreon dot com Trek

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all the information you need there as well as all

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of our past shows, So please check that out. Tonight,

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we're gonna be talking about con Audio Drama Episode two,

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so that's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm looking

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forward to that. We also have our Fans shout outs,

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and that's where we thank fans just like you all

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around the globe for listening and supporting our podcast. We

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also have our Star Trek Polls and we get to

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listen to Eric's awesome polling song and tonight Captain Giorgio's

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choice and a vocan living on Earth in the nineteen fifties.

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I wonder what that's all about. What actor do you

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share a birthday with? Find out on our sci fi

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birthdays this week. You notice I changed it. It's not

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just Star Trek, it's sci Fi as well. And what's

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going on around the Star Trek universe? Shatner says, what,

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he's back again, and he's back in the news. Could

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we be seeing longer Star Trek seasons if one Star

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Truk producer has his way, that could happen a Star

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Truk scouts the Starfleet Academy news. So that's what we're

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going to be talking about tonight. So sit back, relax,

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have a good time, and hang out with the truck spurts.

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Every week we do our fan shout outs and where

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do we get our fan shout outs? From our Facebook page?

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You can go to Truk Talk and beyond you will

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see pinned to the top of the page. I'll live

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long and prosper saying where are you from? Tell us

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where you're from. Leave lots of emojis. It gets my attention.

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If you see a heart next to your name from

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yours truly, uncle Jim, then you are going to be

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featured on a future fan shout out. So Eric, do

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you want to get us started with our fan shout

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outs this week?

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I absolutely do, Jim. We're starting out this week with

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saying Hello to Sharon Puling. Sharon Pulan is saying hello

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to us from summrset and beautiful Tasmania, Australia. A beautiful

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island down south of the mainland Australia and nothing between

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us and Antarctica. Wow. That's pretty cool, man. Totally different

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geography from what we've got up here. But I think

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I'd like to visit Tasmania, except I understand that it's

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rife with spiders, so I don't know. That's a little weird,

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but just saren, thank you for saying hello to us

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from down under. We appreciate it. Also saying hello this

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week to Wayne Till. I believe we've heard from you before. Wayne,

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I seem to remember your name, but thanks for saying

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hello to again. Thanks for saying hello again. You are

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from Hampshire, England and you're sending us not only that

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beautiful English flag but also the Union Jack waving proudly.

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Thanks Wayne. Also saying hello this week to Petra catoun

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Te catoun Tea who's saying hello to us from Munster, Germany,

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sending us that nice, live long and prosper hand. I'll

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say peace and long life to you, Petra. And last,

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but not least, on my list, I'd like to say

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hello this week to Darren Apken who is in Wales,

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and Paul, you got to help me out here. What

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is that, sim Rue? Is that how you're huh three

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three from Cree is a very different Hey? Yeah, I

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knew you would know that, so thank you so much.

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And Darren, good thing. We got Paul here to back

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me up, buddy, Thanks for saying hello to us. Charles,

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who would you like to say hello to?

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Oh?

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Thank you Eric. Let's start off with gg Gabora from Chicago.

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Welcome Gig. Welcome to Stone Reed Marshall from Wichita Falls, Texas.

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Welcome.

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Welcome to Adam Savage from southeast London. Oh, I want

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to get back to London. And welcome to Tom Aaron

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C from Mississippi but originally from Northern California. Love Northern California.

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You got a couple of cities I need to be

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visiting one of these days.

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So.

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I guess some v disappeared on us. I'll just keep

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on going to help out. It's welcome Jill Meadows Smith. Yes,

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there really is a kind of Kalama Zoo, Michigan. Welcome

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Joseph Chadwick from Arkansas. Here's we are saying that I'm

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that used to be an Oklahoma guy. Ah well, good

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luck being from being from Arkansas.

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And Joseph.

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Welcome Chris Chris land Roach live and work in Yossemi

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National Park, California. Wonder why, I ha ha, I think

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that'd be an interesting place to work Chris. And welcome

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Ryan M. Tarvi's from Virginia Beach, Virginia. I wonder if

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you he recognizes Ryan at all? Oh, who's on your list?

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Thank you, some commander Charles. Let's move here, Oh very well.

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The States back over to the Colossus Colossal Europe, where

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lots of things are going on. First of all, going

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to say he Lo to our pal Yuli host in Vltho,

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Germany three two six oh two. That must be some

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kind of special CLO code they're using.

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Lotho. There wasn't Lotho. The guy from Ghostbusters too. I'm

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not sure if they're related or anyhow. Uli is flashing

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one of these to us, and you can only see

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what I'm flashing if you're a Patriot. Remember, Sorry, everyone else,

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you just have to get on board. So we'll move

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on out of there, and we'll head over to a

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little Sonnier climbs to Fiorenzi to Florence, Italy, to alex Vecchio.

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Alex Vecchio. That's a good Italian name, my friend. It's

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great to hear from you. I love knowing that there's

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representation for all things track in Florence that somehow restores

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my faith. And then we got a top fan sneaking

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in here. Everybody make room, make room. We've got a

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top fan. You give them room to breathe. Okay, friends,

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I mean, my god, this isn't just a top fan.

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This is Mela Lutus from Kaiser slout in Germany. How

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about that, right? And they got the big you know, Vulcan.

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How do you do happening there as well, Kaiser Sloutern.

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That sounds like something you should not say on a

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first day. Hey, Kaiser Slouten, I mean, I mean that

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could get you in all kinds of trouble get him.

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It sounds like a delicious sausage to me. I don't know, it.

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Sounds like something that will get you slapped in the face. Hey,

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my little kaiser Slutern, would you like to go to

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visit Blotho with me? And you know, the next thing,

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you know, you've got a big red one on the

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side of your face. And then down the road in

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Belgium we have our friend Daniel impa. Is everyone all right?

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It seems like people are having hard time breathing on

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the podcast your your Aloin's friends. It's only the first

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ten minutes of the show. There's still much more or

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to come. Let's pass this birthday candle over to venerable

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Uncle Jim or uncle.

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It's a shout out megaphone yet.

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Ball megaphone, Thank you much, window too much, Window Payton.

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Before the show.

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They do it, does it does? It's it's we're war

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ravaged up here in Rutland too. You know they're coming

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for our milk and cheese and our pot. We can't

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have that.

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What about your your maple syrup?

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Maple syrup too. That's that's a commodity right there. Yeah,

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so I want to say thank you so much to

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John who Black Junior, who's listening to us in Oswego,

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New York. Thank you for listening, John. I also want

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to say thank you to Carl Stevens who's listening to

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us in Texas right now, remember the Alamo. We also

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want to say thank you to Rami back Dottie, who's

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a rising. I'm sorry he's not rising. He's a top

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to Holly Harris van brose Kerk, who's listening to us

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in Ohio. I didn't have any emojis to report there, unfortunately,

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pictures and they'll be right up there on the screen

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with everybody else's, So please please do that. And now, guys,

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you know what time it is. It's time for our

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Star Trek polls, which means what which means this.

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The LiNpO Lin Polan you know me like no win

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what you thought about the show. Then we try to

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share your opinions with all of our minions out there

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because they listen worldwide.

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So tell us just what you think.

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Get together we will all drink Canara and robylin A ton.

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I love that song, Eric, I remember, the more I

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hear it, the more I like it.

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That's one of my favorites. And I tried to sing

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it as schmultzy as possible too. It's you know, so

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hopefully the schmaltz came across.

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You know, we have to dig out, we have to

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try to find the enterprise.

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You know, I was thinking about that, Jim, because you

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mentioned that like a week or two ago, and I

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we could. But the problem is that the whole concept

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of that song was it was called faith that you'll call.

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That was back when we had the live call in

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numbers so we could play it, but we don't have

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the live call in number anymore.

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So it's a great song.

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You might have to write a new one.

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Though, so Eric, believe it or not, David has some

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surprise when we get to our videos tonight. He came

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up with something new and we tried it, and I

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thought it was kind of cool. So I think you

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guys are going to be surprised. I hope you'll like it.

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But before we go too far, Every week on our

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truck Talking and Beyond Page, I'll throw different polls and

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I ask you guys the fans, what you thought, and

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then we collect your answers and we read them back

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on the air. So David, you're ready to roll out

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exciting tape.

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It's unfortunate that you'll be leaving these people without experiencing

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one thing they have to.

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Offer, such as alcohol, frozen fish sticks, the constant threat

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of nuclear annihilates.

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There's much more to them.

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You just refuse to see it.

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I've seen enough.

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I haven't I plan to stay here.

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If this is your attempt at humor.

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They're on the verge of countless social and technological advancements.

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I have the unique opportunity to study an emerging species.

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That's what you've done, much closer than we anticipated.

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Your duty.

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It's a return to Vulcan and report your findings.

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There's still more to learn about these people, But I

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don't intend to remain in Carbon Creek. Where would you

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go to one of their larger cities at first?

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After that, I'm not certain.

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There's so much to see.

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The high command will never allow it.

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Tell him it's not possible to me.

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Perhaps I can arrange for you to be on the

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next survey ship in another twenty years, running more statistical

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scans from high orbit.

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That's not enough.

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Where's your captain? He was killed in the crash. There

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were four Vulpan support Your vessel, Maestroll died in the

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crash as well.

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We cremated their remains.

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All right, So you saw the tape. What's the question, Eric, I.

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Have a lot of commentary about this one. So in

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the Star Trek Enterprise second season episode Carbon Creek, which

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of course is a must see episode Vulcan Science, our

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officer Mastral decides to remain on Earth in the nineteen fifties.

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Do you agree with the decision to allow him to

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remain behind and surprisingly, ninety three percent of our responders

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said yeah, yeah, let him stay, Let him stay. Only

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seven percent said come on home. First of all, I

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feel like alcohol fish sticks, and the constant threat of

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nuclear annihilation also sounds like my childhood, so that lasted

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for a really long time. And secondly, vulcans can't lie.

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Uh hello, Paul tells a whopper right here. And thirdly,

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what about the whole like temporal prime directive situation there?

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Man Like, Yeah, I have to go against the minions

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on this one. Man, I don't think letting him stay

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behind was the correct thing to do. There's there's some

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kind of paradox created by that, I'm pretty sure, because

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if he dies, then can he still be born in

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the few? I don't know. There's you know, these things

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get complicated when there's temporal stuff involved. So so I

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disagree with the minions, but somebody else may have a

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differing opinion. Anybody else want to take up that mantle

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quick question?

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The question in the poll says, do you agree with

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the decision to allow him to remain behind? So the

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decision was sort of made by collectively like the other

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members of his team.

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Well, I did it well? It could be worded differently.

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Do you agree with his decision? I also think that technically,

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like to Paul was sort of in charge of the team,

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so you know, you could say.

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She makes the cover story, right, she kind of you know, yeah,

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like faking his death kind of thing, so you.

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Could say, ultimately was her responsibility and he's the one

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that requested it.

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Yeah, I can't. I think these are some of the

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most spring Vulcans I've ever heard. That's because it's nighttime

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in there, trying to be very make them. We must

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not make them all. We must all whisper with our

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stocking cops on. I kind of I'm kind of with

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Mester all there, right. I like his rebelliousness and the

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fact that he's propelled by curiosity. He's like a scientist.

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He doesn't want to leave, right. He doesn't want to

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just be like a you know, uh, you know, making

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you know, whatever you makely boring gadgets or widgets. That's

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what I'm looking for. He doesn't want to be a

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widget puncher right in the Vulcan Science Academy. He wants

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to get out there and run amongst the dandelions and

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see what things are like. And he's curious, right, he

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has a romantics attraction to Earth, so it's it's surprising

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that they let him do it. But you know, I think,

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you know, maybe it's just because in this day and age,

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I just really think that I have to support rebellious

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free spirits. Man, So I'm going to go with the

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with the minions on this one because I like his

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I like his need to know and to be to explore.

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I guess the real question is that they lied, both

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both to Mer and other Vulcan dude whose name I

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don't remember, they lied, But.

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Isn't there a chance though, Guys that like who said

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that Vulcans cannot lie, right, there was a spot that

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it could just it could just mean more Vulcan bullshit, right,

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just basically, if we tell them that we can never lie,

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don't believe everything we say, it's not so good.

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Was it an in Wrath of Calm? Where was it

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Savic that said you lied? And Stock says I exaggerated,

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that's true, So maybe this is exaggeration.

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You're right, boy.

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I mean, the interesting fact is that this dude's been

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running on Earth since nineteen fifty four, and like, we

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haven't heard anything from him.

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Or so he did a really good job of staying

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under cover.

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Yeah, and he took a lot of tilent all.

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He's the one that started Area fifty one. Guys, it's obvious.

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Oh yeah, there was an episode about that too.

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I just that that. I think Carbon Creek is probably

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one of the best episodes of Star Trek that's out there.

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And if you guys have not watched it because you

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didn't like Enterprise, but please check that episode out.

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It's oh well, you know, fun fact, it's according to canon,

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Estralla is now a Stephen Miller. Actually, no, it seems

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like similar.

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He doesn't look like much smaller, he doesn't look like so.

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Yeah.

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Oh boy. Anyway, the Carbon Creek is a great episode. Really,

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what do you think, David? I I had to go

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for a minute. Did you you agree with the minions?

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So this was a story told by DePaul, and since

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we had just established that Vulcans can lie, is she

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lying about that vulcan staying on Earth? I don't know.

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I mean, it's just a story that she was telling.

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It could be made up.

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Does she lie about creating Velkrel.

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Maybe trying to get famous? I guess, but I would

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actually have to say I agree with the minions just

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because being on an alien planet, it's actually kind of

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finding to explore, even if you do have some form

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of time directive, as the Vulcans may or may not

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have at that time. But yeah, I think I think

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it would have been really interesting to explore an alien world,

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get to experience their culture and what they had to offer,

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and so I think making new decision to stay on

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there probably what I would have done.

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Now do you think David that he uh he pond

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fart and got jiggy with it with that woman Maggie.

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Well, do we have an O rated version of the Patreon?

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I mean, you know, maybe there's some half Vulcan, you know,

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dude running over. Maybe that's where Sidebok came from.

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I was waiting for that reference.

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Yeah, gotta throw that in there.

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Well, but but the flaw in that is that, uh,

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because I have that, I have that Star Trek I

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need to dig it out.

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Man.

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I have all the Star Trek stuff that I haven't

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seen in forever, But it was this record of Star

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Trek and on it was sorry describing how stock came

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into the world, and there was intense I guess medical

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intervention needed. So I don't see how this vulcan have

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gotten with anybody. I mean he could have, sure, but

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had kids, I don't know because they wouldn't have been

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able to I guess have them without medical intervention, which

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they don't know about in the nineteen fifties. So that's my.

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Well good, I mean good theory. But we do see

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spots birth in Star Trek three, right.

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Excuse me, Star Trek five, the Final Front Fire whatever.

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I always forget about that one. B.

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I don't think. I don't think your record is canon. B.

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I think that's something that Mark Leonard did to make

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a quick book.

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Okay, all right, you know which one I'm talking about, though, right,

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I don't have to.

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Because two people have medical intervention when a baby needs

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to come out doesn't.

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Mean every day.

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All right, Well, I.

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Look at Kier on DS nine, you know with yeah, Well,

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I mean I don't know.

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I don't see a lot of cross pollenization on Star Trek.

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So just just don't go on Reddit and look up

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any sort of anatomy with Cardassians or anything, because you

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will regret it. Don't ask me how.

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I don't don't be doing that that would be a

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bad thing people have.

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This conversation explains a lot people have pictures, Patre, I

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haven't said anything. I haven't said anything.

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This is not for children.

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But yeah, there's just you can go and discover it yourself.

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But I'm not saying anything. Just now I have to Yes,

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you do anything?

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Is that the way? Is it like a cat? You know?

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But what a cat has?

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Sure it has something to do?

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No, No, you don't know what a cat has.

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No, No, it has nothing.

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It has no No, they have nine lives.

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It's kind of.

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So I know, we know, we know, yes, yes, no,

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I don't know anyway, but yeah, just do it.

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Okay, education.

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I just I struggled to get back connected because my

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whole thing went bluey. So maybe I should have just

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pretended like, oh I can't get back on. That would

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have made so much.

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That the whole thing went to blueing. But that's another story.

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Yeah, he had too much time and all for sure

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to and his escalator didn't work. All right, guys, So

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let's move on to this. You want to roll the tape, Yeah,

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I can get it going all right.

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Stoppy doesn't fly first, that's all normal.

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One we have to in my ready room. Now return

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a commander.

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You have to bridge, Yes, Captain compeared up privacy.

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Contre you challenge me, I apologize for Did you realize

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that kind of talk can destabilize a crew?

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Don't underestimate them.

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I've overseen their exercises.

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They're ready for battle. Battle is not assimilation.

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It's blood and screams and funerals.

477
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:32.480
I thought you better than this.

478
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:34.200
We don't start shooting on a.

479
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:37.160
Hunch, and we don't take innocent lives period.

480
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.160
I understand your history with the Klingons. Commitment to this

481
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.720
course of action is not emotional.

482
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.920
We target its neck, cut off, its hair, still injured.

483
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:47.480
You're not.

484
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:49.400
Your lives will be lost.

485
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.599
Because of failure to ask lives victims of your imaginary war,

486
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:54.160
your life, Captain.

487
00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:01.480
Yours commanded that?

488
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:05.119
All right?

489
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:05.880
Wow?

490
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.640
So this is right from the very beginning of Star

491
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:12.200
Trek Discovery, and you saw the clip what's the question? Eric?

492
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:16.440
In the Discovery episode Vulcan Hello, the Vulcan Hello, Captain

493
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:20.400
Georgio goes with a diplomatic solution rather than attacking the

494
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:25.000
Klingons as suggested by the executive officer Burnham. Do you

495
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:28.200
agree with her decision and this one, folks is split

496
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.160
fifty to fifty. Fifty percent of our responders said yes,

497
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.880
what could go wrong? I think we've figured that out,

498
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.880
and fifty percent said no, these are Klingons, we must

499
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:44.039
eviscerate them. So yeah, I uh, you know, this is

500
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.000
another one of the questions. It's kind of like, well,

501
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:47.640
you sort of had to do it the one way

502
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.000
for the whole like season one, to actually occur the

503
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.839
way it did, but in a vacuum. I think I

504
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.799
agree with uh with Burnham. I mean, we we figure

505
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.759
out later that Burnham is has a really good intuition.

506
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.960
She makes an excellent captain. She's like, you gotta come

507
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.039
to the Klingon's table and do what the Klingons would

508
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.799
do in this scenario, and that's not what Georgio does,

509
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.559
and as a result, we get a war. Right, So

510
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:16.799
if she had cut the head off instead, perhaps we

511
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:18.200
could have avoided the Kleon war.

512
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:23.039
And this is one of those questions, this particular one.

513
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:27.279
We I think we discussed it from Burnham's point of

514
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.519
view when the episode aired. I think we had this

515
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:35.480
discussion when Burnham talks to Sarah, but we haven't had

516
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:38.799
it from Georgia's point of view, and she's a diplomat

517
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.200
along the lines of Catho Piccard. So I think that

518
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.319
Georgio is, you know, always looking for a diplomatics. And

519
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.880
she says there starfleet doesn't fire first, and I think

520
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:53.000
that she's I think she's on the right side, but

521
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.640
I think she's not being objective enough. I mean, these

522
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:02.359
are Klingons, right had she attacked, would the war have

523
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:08.839
still raged? Who knows? I mean, the Vulcans were able

524
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:14.640
to staff off the Klingons by attacking them, but I

525
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:16.880
don't know. I'm kind of with Burnham on this one.

526
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.279
I think if they had attacked and killed the Kuma

527
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.200
blew up a ship, you know, the war wouldn't have

528
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.119
really gone anywhere because he was the fuse that was

529
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.200
lighting it all. You know, he was the martyr, he

530
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.519
was the one that started it. And if he silenced him,

531
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.440
you know, would that have silenced because the other Klingons

532
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:39.039
really weren't going to follow him until Core shows up. Anyway.

533
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.160
Yeah, yeah, I think this scene not to like give

534
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.079
another one of my opinions, but I'm going to I

535
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.039
think this scene sort of shows that Burnham has a

536
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.680
cultural sophistication that Georgio doesn't have, and that Georgio is

537
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.359
only looking at it as a starfleet like through a

538
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:01.839
starfleet lens, right, whereas Burnham's actually able to you understand

539
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.319
it from a broader cultural context, which makes her, in

540
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.880
the end, I think, a better captain.

541
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.200
But yeah, so this is a fifty to fifty one.

542
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.279
So yeah, how about you, Paul, which part of the

543
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.119
fifty are you on?

544
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.119
Well, what a surprise. The audiences in our United States

545
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:25.079
audience is completely divided. How shocking. I gotta go with

546
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.559
Captain Georgia on here, frankly, just because it's while you know,

547
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:34.359
everybody makes good points about what Burnham's perspective is and

548
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.519
what her thoughts were, and her reasoning and all of

549
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.759
that stuff. Right at the end of the day, you

550
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:44.680
do not speak against your commanding officer on duty in

551
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.079
a live situation like that. It is just absolutely not done.

552
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:53.160
It is insubordination. It's borderline mutiny. If she was really

553
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:56.079
an intelligent character and she was raised among Vulcans, she

554
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.000
would say, Captain, I got to talk to you for

555
00:32:58.039 --> 00:32:58.400
a second.

556
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.519
Guy, speak to you in your ready room or whatever.

557
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:04.119
But you don't do that, and countermand her orders on

558
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.640
the bridge in front of the crew. It's just it's

559
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.440
you know, you're done. Yeah, it's just not it's not acceptable.

560
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.279
It's immature and rash, and it's it's a really bad example,

561
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.680
and it's a it's a really frankly you're thrown on

562
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.200
the brig. You just don't do it, you know. So, yeah,

563
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.279
she's she's impulsive. I mean I get that this is

564
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.240
the kind of writing they wanted to do that show

565
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.319
that she's an impulsive, you know, undisciplined character, which is

566
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.640
what she's like that first part of the uh you know,

567
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.319
of the first season of the show, contraryor of all

568
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:36.400
can upbringing. She's like a petulant child, right, But you

569
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.680
do not go against your captain. I mean, it's one

570
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.400
thing to take him off in sidebar, say listen here,

571
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.640
here's why I think we should maybe higher, you know,

572
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.920
but but you don't go up against what your captain

573
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:48.960
says in the crew. That's right, you're right out of

574
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:52.079
starfleet on your hands. So yeah, sorry as well, she

575
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.319
may have good intentions, you don't go up against the captain.

576
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:56.599
It's just not done.

577
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.039
How about you, V What do you think?

578
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.079
I agree with Paul and I just I want to

579
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:08.480
know if a Bulcan Hello is anything like a Romulan goodbye?

580
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:09.559
Very similar?

581
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:16.360
Okay, good yeah, yeah absolutely. Coming from Navy background, you know,

582
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.840
in the real life military, yeah, you would have your

583
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.519
your butt in the brig very quickly. And actually earlier

584
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:30.840
I was watching All Good Things Tang where Beverly Crusher.

585
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.519
You know, when Card is going through time and he

586
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:36.400
speaks out. Of course he's all confused because he's going

587
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:40.760
through multiple times, but she just absolutely rips into him

588
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:47.519
for aside for speaking speaking against her wishes or her

589
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.519
orders in front of the crew. So yeah, you just

590
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:50.960
don't do.

591
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:57.280
That, all right, What do you think, David, could the

592
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:58.239
war have been prevented?

593
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:04.920
Since we're on the topic of Vulcan Hello, Romulin goodbye?

594
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:13.239
How about Kardashian surprise? But uh so I have to

595
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.960
agree with Paul and be on this one that you

596
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.000
don't go against your captain. And I do agree that

597
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:23.760
the idea of doing a diplomatic solution first is always

598
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:27.880
the best solution. War is really horrible and nobody should

599
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.400
have to go through that. But on the other hand,

600
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.159
the idea that since she had intel about the clean

601
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:39.960
on having to you know, always attack first, maybe, but

602
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.840
at the same time, yeah, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna

603
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.519
go with Georgia, she said, and that she made the

604
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:46.239
right question.

605
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.079
All right, that goes to you, Charles, what do you think.

606
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:57.599
I'm gonna go with Burnham on this one? Because as

607
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:03.880
we've seen progression captains, this kind of shows a captain

608
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:08.960
that does not trust her crew member's opinions. Her opinions

609
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.480
are firm, and she goes exactly the way she wants

610
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:16.400
to go. I would see Pike listening saying, Okay, I've

611
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.239
you got an opinion, let me hear it. I want

612
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.880
to hear the story behind it. I want reasoning. Let's

613
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.719
get a reason for this happening. And I think this

614
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:30.320
is things that Burnham would do on her ship. So

615
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:33.480
I think it kind of shows the way Georgio takes

616
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:38.440
the anger, that Georgio doesn't trust her crew that you

617
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:42.320
follow her rule or else. And I think that makes

618
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:48.119
it a captain that people fear but don't always trust,

619
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.119
and that's not always that's captains.

620
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:56.800
And I think Paul was right because this is this

621
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.960
is the first episode, and it's a stable plishing, you know,

622
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.480
how petulant and how much growing Burnham needs to go

623
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.159
through before she gets to where we know she eventually gets.

624
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.559
So this is a good place to start with her

625
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.599
character because we know where she ends, all right. So, guys,

626
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:17.079
that wraps up our polls, please head over to Trek

627
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.320
Talking and Beyond. And I haven't put a new one

628
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.559
up yet, but I'll come up with something and throw

629
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.719
it up there and you guys can answer it. So

630
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:29.079
now now it's time for some trivia.

631
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.960
And you know what that music means. It's once again

632
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.400
time to put on your thinking caps and join us

633
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:39.679
for Star Trek trivia time with Uncle Jim.

634
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:44.400
All right, So I've decided to go Beyond Beyond, Beyond

635
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.840
Beyond this week because we always do Star Trek, and

636
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.039
so I wanted to do something a little bit different.

637
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.760
So here we go. We're gonna be a little bit different,

638
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.880
and you're gonna notice the birthdays might be a little

639
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.960
bit different as well. But different is good. I think

640
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.039
change is good, and so we're going to go for it. So, Paul,

641
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.639
are you ready for the first question? Shock is not

642
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:10.360
Star Trek related.

643
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:11.159
It's all right.

644
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:16.519
So in the classic sci fi horror film Alien, what

645
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:21.800
was the name of Ripley's cat tick tom Ta.

646
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.840
Well, you know that would be Jones or Jonesy get

647
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:32.039
shut out from Brett and Parker. But yeah, Jones.

648
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.760
Yep, that's right. Okay, Eric, you ready, I have a

649
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:38.719
Star Trek question.

650
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.039
I couldn't remember the name of the cat, so now

651
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:42.280
I'm a little worried. We'll see.

652
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:47.000
Okay, name an actor that was killed by both a

653
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:49.360
predator and an alien.

654
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:55.599
Oh you mean did you say name an actor, like

655
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:59.000
the actor's name? Yeah, the actor, yeah, because it's not

656
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:03.480
a character crossed. Well, that would probably be Bill Paxson, right,

657
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.000
because he's he's going straight to hill and then he

658
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:11.400
plays that guy with like the fedora in in the

659
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.039
Predator movie. And doesn't he also in Predator too?

660
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:14.360
Yeah?

661
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:19.480
And and isn't he also in in Terminator too?

662
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:20.559
Yeah?

663
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:22.440
Like he hits all three of those franchises.

664
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:24.719
It's all three of them. Yeah, nice night for a

665
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:30.000
walk eh yeah yeah, right, yeah, that's right.

666
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:31.480
Cool, good question.

667
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.400
So yeah, so we're we're for two so far se

668
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.760
non Star Trek, non Star Trek, the truck spurt. Our

669
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:47.440
knowledge has not just siphers. Well, okay, at any rate, David,

670
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:49.000
that's one.

671
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:50.960
Of those words like moist that you want to use

672
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.880
in like this little bit, little.

673
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:57.320
Bit special occasion words.

674
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:02.119
So the pressures on David a Star Trek question, Okay,

675
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:06.960
but I you know, so, uh what member of Rogue

676
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.639
Squadron survived the Battle of you haven't? That would be

677
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.239
Star Wars, the Battle of haf the Empire strikes Back,

678
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:18.599
and the Battle of Indoor Return of the Jedi.

679
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:27.480
Ah the Rogue Squadron retained to X wings.

680
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:36.480
And but Haff is in there, yep, because he flew

681
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:37.519
a speeder.

682
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:43.159
Because he was in a speeder too, I think, oh

683
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:44.760
my goodness.

684
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:50.039
So I'll give you a hint. It was wedge Wedge Antillies.

685
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:54.840
That's right, Okay, yeah, yep, Big bigs bites it, but

686
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.360
wedge Wedge makes it through all the movies congratulates. So

687
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:01.519
we're we're we're style. And but now it's up to

688
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:08.679
v uh oh uh uh, he's got this. He's got

689
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:14.599
so not a Star Trek question, but an eighties cheese question.

690
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.559
And I love the eighties cheese. Eighty sci Fi's is

691
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:24.079
the best, so Arnold Schwarzenegger is known for his one

692
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:29.159
liners and the James Cameron classic determinator. He utters the phrase,

693
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:35.000
I'll be back. Name another eighty sci fi movie where

694
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:36.679
he utters the same line.

695
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.559
Now, this was tricky because he says a variation of

696
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:47.440
this line in quite a few movies, so I was

697
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:52.519
trying to find out exactly which one, and apparently it

698
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:58.039
is total recall. Is that right?

699
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:04.559
Well I was the movie that I well, I give

700
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:09.400
you a hint after he utters this line. The person

701
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:14.280
that he utters the line too, says only in reruns.

702
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:21.039
Hmm, okay, yeah, because I was, because I came up

703
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.159
with like twelve different movies.

704
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:28.719
Well, I just I literally, I literally just watched this

705
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.000
movie because there's a new remake of it coming out.

706
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.480
And I said to myself, why So I went back

707
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:36.400
and I watched it, and I said, that's a good question. Well,

708
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.800
Richard Dawson. Richard Dawson is the guy that he says

709
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.599
the line too, who happens to be a talk show host.

710
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.639
Well, I don't know, okay, I just googled it, and

711
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.159
now I understand Paul's miming.

712
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.320
I've been watching Paul. Would it be? It wouldn't be?

713
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:05.719
I think of all the movie is now twins. No, right,

714
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.719
that's right. Well, it was kind of sci fi because

715
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:11.079
you know, the genetic engineering.

716
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:13.719
A man having a baby.

717
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.679
I don't know. I thought, I thought I did my

718
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:24.039
research and the internet lied to me. So I got nothing.

719
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.360
Paul, you want to pull it out.

720
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.119
Well, it's actually too just just to clear it up, right.

721
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:32.360
The movie in question is, of course The Running Man,

722
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.679
right Stephen King Richard Bachman book of the same time,

723
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:41.079
but he also says it in the cult fave Commando.

724
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.800
He says, he says, I'll be in that as well, right,

725
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:52.440
because they were basically everybody was really when they made them, clearly.

726
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:56.360
But also the same line in Kindergarten Cotton.

727
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:58.920
He says it again if you go back and looking

728
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:03.880
like Expendables too, which is I don't recommend.

729
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:04.159
Was the one I think I was thinking of because

730
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:05.679
I thought it was a comedy movie too.

731
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.639
But then when I was like, wait a minute, funny

732
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:13.480
line in Kindergarten cop is when he's got a headache

733
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.440
and the kid insists that he has a tumor, and

734
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:17.880
they said, it's not a tumor.

735
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:22.480
It's not a go see a guynacologist. That is what

736
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.599
he says. I know, the student says that anyways. Anyway,

737
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:33.559
So Paul, Paul's Paul's on fire here in the nineteen

738
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:40.239
nineties TV series SeaQuest DSV, what actor plays Nathan Bridger

739
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.159
his only TV appearance.

740
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.719
Well, I think it's an actor who, in this case

741
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:49.199
finally found the bigger boat he was saying that everybody

742
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:50.960
else was going to need, which is of course the

743
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:52.039
late great Roy Scheider.

744
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.960
And you know what, we got to do a SeaQuest show.

745
00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:00.719
I think I really do Roy Royce app The Bridger

746
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.480
would have been a great star fleet captain, I think.

747
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:06.239
And well, there's a punch show.

748
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.280
It was a punch show. I mean yeah, the shows

749
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.800
where well, like Space nineteen ninety nine where they really

750
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.199
changed a lot of stuff around, like Midway, right, I

751
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.639
mean like they went crazy. They really struck it up, right,

752
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:17.840
you know, that would be fun and I would love

753
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.559
to do like I don't know if anyone else is

754
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.639
of the right vintage for this, but I'd love to

755
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.519
do an Irwin Allen show, right like you know in

756
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.480
the sixties and early seventies and Landed the Giants Lost

757
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.400
in Space. Boy, it's the bottom of the sea. This

758
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:33.800
makes me your sequest makes me think of Voyage at

759
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:35.840
Bottom of the Sea right away. But those were some

760
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:37.199
great sounds.

761
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:41.800
Absolutely well, we'll schedule something, all right, Eric, you're ready.

762
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.320
Kind up a star kind of a Star Trek question

763
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.440
with a multitude of answers, a plethora of correct answers.

764
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:56.360
In fact, you can't get this one wrong. Hey, we'll

765
00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:00.199
see all right. Carl urban is best known to Star

766
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.480
Trek fans is playing Leonard Boy in the Star Trek

767
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:09.840
reboot movies. Name another character in another franchise that he

768
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:11.960
is portrayed, and there are many of.

769
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:17.039
Them, like any character in any franchise that he's portrayed. Uh, well,

770
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.000
I you know, I will admit that I'm a total

771
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:26.079
sucker for Judge Dread comics, and so he played Judge Dread.

772
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.719
And actually that movie wasn't that bad, even though I

773
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:31.480
do have a soft spot in my heart for the

774
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:36.679
Sylvester Stallone version. But yeah, I I don't know. I

775
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.960
thought he did a great job in that movie.

776
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:40.159
Movie.

777
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.719
Dude, it's it's a good movie. And I some people

778
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:47.039
just can't get into that like general genre of stuff,

779
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:49.239
but I totally dug him in that role.

780
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.559
Yeah, I've heard that Amazon is trying to lure Carl

781
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:58.199
Urbin in with money to do a Dread series. Okay, okay,

782
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.039
they may you may get because they've been trying to

783
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.159
do another movie forever, and I think that it would

784
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:03.119
really lend it so well.

785
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:05.079
Yeah, I mean, if you want to, like, if you

786
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:06.599
want to follow some of the stories that are in

787
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.239
the comics at all, you really need more time than

788
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.039
a two hour movie to be able to do it,

789
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:14.039
because that there's a lot of stuff in that world

790
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:15.159
that gets you watching.

791
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:17.960
I hate to derail, but are you watching Peacemaker at all?

792
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:19.599
I have not been.

793
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.440
No, he absolutely should be. It's kind of also like

794
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.880
Judge Dread tone wise, it's hilarious. It's just it's gory,

795
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.079
as you can imagine, but it's also really funny and

796
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:34.719
clever and uh and just weird. It's really weird. It's great.

797
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.960
Is that Is that the show where they blow off

798
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.880
the guy's penis?

799
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.280
I might have left if that happened. It could be

800
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:49.159
the guy.

801
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.639
With the gold helmet, right, he wears a gold helmet.

802
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.239
Yeah, yeah, okay, well it's like silver, it's silver.

803
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:58.000
Yeah. I watched that one episode. I was like, okay, interesting,

804
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.000
you know, it's.

805
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:02.440
A watch the if you I here's my what I'd say.

806
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:04.519
Watch the first ten minutes, Eric, and if you're not

807
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.760
laughing like a maniac at the first ten minutes of

808
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:11.400
the first season episode, that you won't like it.

809
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:12.519
All right, I'll check it out one.

810
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:14.559
But it's hysterical, you know, Eric.

811
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.960
I don't know anything about Judge Dread at all, never

812
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:19.920
heard of it, don't know anything about it. But I

813
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.840
did see the movie because we're talking about eighties cheese

814
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:26.199
and Stallone was about as eighties cheesy as as you

815
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:30.360
can be. And so I loved I just loved the

816
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:33.400
way he played Dread. It was just cheesy, one liners,

817
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.599
just fun. And then when the when the new one

818
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.760
came out, it was more serious and gory and it

819
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.719
was a totally different tone that I wasn't prepared for.

820
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.679
So maybe if I go back and watch it knowing

821
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:47.599
that again, I might enjoy it more.

822
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.480
Yeah, I mean it's definitely a better movie, you know,

823
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.360
like as as movies go. Now, what urban doesn't he

824
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.519
kind of has down, but not I don't think to

825
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.440
the Stallone level. Is the shape of the mouth, like

826
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.960
that whole like constantly frowning thing that Dread always has. Yeah,

827
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.039
it's Paul's got it there. Yeah, put a helmet on that.

828
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:13.280
Guy, there's a trivia question that I don't know if

829
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.039
anybody knows, do you know why Sylvester Stallone has the

830
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:21.880
droopy lip? Anybody knows never.

831
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:24.079
Got punched too much in the face doing the Rocky movies.

832
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:31.559
Well, and this is from reading back before the internet,

833
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:35.880
reading like a People magazine or something. Apparently when he

834
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.199
was born, he was he had to be delivered by

835
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.639
four steps and it kind of squished his face and

836
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:46.719
damaged the nerves. So there you go, there's.

837
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.559
That image, not just fun but educational as well.

838
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.800
I don't know, or just having a knowledge past.

839
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.920
Okay, yeah, I don't I'm I don't know why I

840
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:57.960
brought that up.

841
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.559
But moving on with trivia, Charles gets a question, and

842
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:04.840
this this You're gonna be shocking you hear this one?

843
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:10.360
This one is pseudo Star Trek related Lawrence Lucking Bill,

844
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.480
who is best known among Star Trek fans such as

845
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:17.079
myself for playing Cybok and the awesome Star Trek five

846
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:23.000
the Final Frontier motion picture. Who is his famous mother

847
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:28.480
in law m Well, he talked about he talked about

848
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:29.599
this on the podcast.

849
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:33.800
Well, I guess he had an easy way of getting

850
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.960
into DESI louse Studios having lose sil Ball as a

851
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:38.679
mother in law.

852
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:43.840
Yeah, isn't that what a shock that is? Huh? I

853
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.000
had this, You knew that I could.

854
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:56.000
I was gonna sneak, Yeah, sneak in Star Trek for

855
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.559
like something's want to hear about, or Star Trek two

856
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.920
like we're doing with the.

857
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.159
Podcast with the podcast mm hmm.

858
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.639
But so that was our Star Trek five reference for

859
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:16.760
the night. So, David, are you ready? I uh oh

860
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:21.760
so uh. Jerry Goldsmith composed the music for Star Trek

861
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.159
the Motion Picture. I think one of the best soundtracks.

862
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.880
Can you name another Star Trek film that he scored?

863
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:29.880
This is an easy one.

864
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:35.400
Another Star Trek one.

865
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:41.519
It's one of the best movies ever made. Guy, Yeah,

866
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:42.199
didn't he do?

867
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:52.719
Like, well, okay, that's not the best Star Trek movie

868
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.760
ever made.

869
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.119
He scored four total movies.

870
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:00.800
Four one of them.

871
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.000
Okay, I think I know one of them, which was

872
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:05.880
to Put Contact one. I think that was.

873
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:07.280
Yeah.

874
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:09.880
I wasn't going to say died, but I wasn't sure

875
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:10.599
if that would one.

876
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:12.679
I'm glad you didn't.

877
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:14.000
That was one of them.

878
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:22.519
So I haven't one of them.

879
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:25.519
Yeah, all right, we're going to swing back to v. Yeah,

880
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:30.199
he gets our next question, who has directed more Star

881
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:33.800
Trek episodes than anyone else? This is a Star Trek

882
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:35.840
related question with a Star Trek related.

883
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:39.320
If the Internet lied to me again, but I came

884
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:40.840
up with Jonathan Freaks.

885
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:47.920
That's right, the bomb who takes freaks. You got to

886
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:49.000
get him on the podcast.

887
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.360
Yes, Oh my gosh, that would be so I can

888
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:55.800
tell him again that he is still Riker hot.

889
00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:04.480
Riker hot, and he has very fan The last question, well,

890
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.360
I thought this went up just for Paul all right.

891
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:12.440
Michelle Yoe is the most recent Star Trek actor to

892
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:16.480
win an Oscar. Name another Star Trek actor who has

893
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:17.679
also won an Oscar?

894
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.559
Well, and Andrew. I won't just name one, I'll name

895
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:26.920
several because there's quite a few luminaries, yes Academy Awards

896
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:31.039
on their on their banisters, who have dipped their toe

897
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.280
in the Star Trek universe. Zoeys Aldana would be one,

898
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.719
of course, from the Star Truck JJ Abrams things f

899
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.199
Murray Abraham because he needed to put a down payment

900
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:44.119
on the condominium, so we took that role. Keith Carrodine

901
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:50.199
is another one. Our good evil evil villainous from Deep

902
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:55.159
Space nine Louise Fletcher, Uh, what the goldberg is? Another

903
00:53:56.320 --> 00:54:00.960
Joel Gray, Christopher Plumber, Christopher Plumber for crying out loud,

904
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:05.119
and then Jamie Lee Curtis, right, Jamie Lee Curtis, who

905
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:09.960
was also in that. That's right, we're trying to I'm

906
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.679
still trying to forget that section thirty one ever happened?

907
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:16.199
But you know, film is forever, as they tell me,

908
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:18.679
So she was in that as well, and then just

909
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:24.800
about to debut shortly on Starfleet Academy, Paul Jim Hotti.

910
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:30.639
So yeah, tons and tons of gold hefton ask your

911
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:32.559
folks appearing in Star Trek.

912
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.519
So the truck spirts did pretty good and non Trek

913
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:41.639
related trivia not bad at all, all right, guys. So

914
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.079
now we're gonna move on to the meat and potatoes.

915
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:46.880
The main topic of our show tonight, and that is

916
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:51.320
the Star Trek Radio Drama con And for that we're

917
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:54.519
gonna have Paul give us a quick synopsis and then

918
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:58.360
we're gonna dive right in. So the mic is yours, Paul?

919
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:02.519
All right? So yeah, this this episode two, going back

920
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:08.400
to storytelling mythology entitled Shaharazad, and as the episode starts,

921
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.800
Khan is kind of avoiding Marla mcguiver's there, she's fallen

922
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.239
out of favor, but then he kind of circles back

923
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:22.440
and rethinks things. The potential threat Usurper guy from the

924
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:26.679
previous episode I Hugo is suddenly turned up dead, and

925
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:29.159
it's very unclear what happened to him. Did he take

926
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:30.880
his own life, did he have a bad fall, or

927
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:32.760
was he pushed that kind of thing, so we don't

928
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:36.719
really know. But a lot of this episode focuses on

929
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:40.079
an initial hunting trip out into the vault of Citi

930
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:42.320
Alpha VIV what they learned about all these kinds of

931
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:46.360
new dangers. And we have our first run in with

932
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:49.400
a SETI eel and we get a lot of really

933
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.800
good character development between Cohn and Marla over a very

934
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:59.760
cool calampfire conversation, and it's Marlon mcgivers herself who uses

935
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:07.280
the tale of Shaharazad to explore these conflicting historical accounts

936
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.920
of his rule, kind of leading him out with the

937
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.719
idea that history is written by the winners right is

938
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.639
an expression that she uses quite a bit. So we're

939
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.239
really getting into some interesting character development of this episode.

940
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.000
I liked a lot of it because we're really kind

941
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.280
of out on this overnight hunting trip a lot of it, right,

942
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:30.039
And it's everyone's kind of looking within a little bit

943
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.760
more to kind of figure out what makes each other tick.

944
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:33.360
Right.

945
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.239
What was it that drew Marla to Khan in the

946
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:42.360
first place? Besides his personal charisma? Right? She violated Earth

947
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.679
to Starfleet, her loyalties to her captain, her shipmates. You

948
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.320
know what kind of person does that? Right? Is it?

949
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.159
Because she was weak driven by passion, and she's actually

950
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.719
willing to ask herself those kinds of questions, which I

951
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.840
think is really cool. And as she presses Khan for

952
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:03.760
more of his story, right, she relates the story of

953
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.440
you know, Seherazade and kind of you know, draws parallels there,

954
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:11.880
and her main point is that, you know, okay, historians

955
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.360
have told your story con right, such as herself. She's

956
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:18.639
a historian, right, But what about the gaps in everyone's

957
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:20.320
else's knowledge about everyone else?

958
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:20.719
Right?

959
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.639
So it's really an interesting kind of an almost like

960
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.840
a dance between the two of them trying to reach

961
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:30.440
deeper into getting each other's stories. These are both two

962
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.440
characters who are carrying wounds of one kind or another,

963
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.280
and are both very protective of their privacy. They both

964
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.400
wear armor and guard a lot of things out there,

965
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:48.000
and it's kind of hinted at that without openness or transparency,

966
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:51.880
there could be no real intimacy between two people. And

967
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:53.599
we're not really sure what's going to happen, if these

968
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:56.079
two are going to come back together and be able

969
00:57:56.159 --> 00:58:01.079
to be together as a couple or not, because transparency

970
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:05.920
requires vulnerability, and I think it's interesting to see the

971
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.320
question asked, you know, how can you be vulnerable if

972
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:10.880
you've been wounded so deeply in the past, Right, And

973
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:14.199
then all of this sharing is kind of cut short

974
00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:19.559
by this attack of an ominous bug like insect with

975
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:24.960
terrifying larvae that I'm sure we all have encountered earlier

976
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.880
in a cinematic upbreaking. I'm a SETI eel there, And

977
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:32.760
so it's really interesting. I like the fact that this

978
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:36.360
episode portrays Cohn with a lot more compassion.

979
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:36.920
Right.

980
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.639
He even does humor at one point, like somebody on

981
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:43.719
his team like belches really loudly and he's like, you know,

982
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:45.920
didn't I warn you we don't use chemical weapons, And

983
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:48.960
he's kind of like, you know, a softer con in

984
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:53.880
a way. Right, So it's very character driven. Marla talks

985
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:57.360
about how she viewed Beyond the Enterprises being like a

986
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:01.840
prison right and she needed a sense of freedom, and

987
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.079
she also wanted to document this moment in history that

988
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:05.800
she felt he was about to embark upon. So I

989
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:11.480
thought it was really interesting. One of CON's number is

990
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:15.719
killed by a giant boar and another character is injured badly.

991
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:18.719
But I think it's interesting to sort of get a

992
00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:20.360
little bit more of a sense that Cod is a

993
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.880
flawed leader. But and I found that for me, it

994
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:27.599
made him more relatable and more sympathetic. So it's interesting,

995
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:32.679
and I think just poking a couple other things on

996
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.559
my notes, I think that that's most everything there. The

997
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.440
episode ends with con vowing to you know, go out

998
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:42.480
and face the planet's dangerous. He's not really sure exactly

999
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:46.199
what he's gonna find there yet, but he's not going back,

1000
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:51.440
all right. He's determined to confront what's out there. He's

1001
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:57.519
angry that he has lost some of his shipmates because

1002
00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:00.000
of the planet's dangers, and he's determined to kind of

1003
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:03.519
kind of after having briefly faced some of his own

1004
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.199
defects in the sharing with Marla. I think he's trying

1005
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:08.880
to see if he can go out and write things

1006
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:13.280
and maybe correct some aspects of his own story. So

1007
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.679
that's kind of my take on this episode. I thought

1008
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:17.960
it was really interesting. Not as much action per se

1009
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.920
as I think the initial pilot. We don't get the

1010
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:25.960
wrap around story with the Starfleet characters in the landing party,

1011
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:27.760
so it's really more of us just sort of listening

1012
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.440
to these reminiscences in the storytelling. But I thought it

1013
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:33.920
was really interesting, So I would probably should I get

1014
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:37.719
my score now, just for Economy's sake, Yeah, I think

1015
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.199
I would give it. I don't think it was quite

1016
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:41.079
as strong as the first episode, but I still thought

1017
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:42.880
it was really interesting. With the character development, I think

1018
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.400
I would probably give it an eight. I think seems

1019
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:49.119
apropos for me, but again, just really great work by

1020
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:52.719
the actors on this show. Great voice cast, interesting writing.

1021
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.920
It felt like a little kind of you know, slower

1022
01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:00.840
character development thing, you know, maybe felt a little fillery,

1023
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:02.760
but I thought they did such a good job with

1024
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:05.840
the character work that I enjoyed it once I once

1025
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:08.440
I slowed down and got into it. So yeah, good stuff.

1026
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:10.239
Excited to see what happens now.

1027
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:15.079
Yeah, I agree. Paul completely. How about you V what'd

1028
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:15.480
you think?

1029
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:20.880
Oh? I agree? But what's weird though, Like in the

1030
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:25.000
very beginning, it's almost like a throwaway that we hear

1031
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:29.400
that Hugo is dead and they don't they don't know

1032
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:33.079
what happened to him, And I don't know, that's a

1033
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.679
little bit suspicious, you know, was he did he feel

1034
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.320
guilty because he had betrayed con? Blah blah blah, did

1035
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.840
he you know, fall whatever? And then they just say okay,

1036
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.639
and Con is all. I don't know, it just seems

1037
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:50.239
a little too I don't know, too convenient that, you know,

1038
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:52.840
Con is all. You know, Oh, we can't let this happen.

1039
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.119
We have to have everybody in pairs from now on.

1040
01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:00.519
Nobody goes off alone. So that was, you know, probably

1041
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:10.039
in the missing couple seconds of the now yeah, Marlah, Yeah,

1042
01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:14.000
And I just the thing too with Marla, and it

1043
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.679
just seemed like she was It's so weird because in

1044
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:20.360
Space Seed I got the impression that she was so more,

1045
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:24.599
much more enamored with Con than she is in this.

1046
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.559
So I don't know what happened in the trip from

1047
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:32.480
the Enterprise to Setie Alfa five, but yeah, so it's

1048
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:38.079
but it's it's still it's interesting to listen to, but

1049
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:40.320
I have to It's funny. I find myself having to

1050
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:44.280
concentrate more because I don't have anything to watch, so

1051
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:47.400
I have to try to see in my mind's eye

1052
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:51.800
what's going on. So requires a little more thought for me.

1053
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:54.039
But I'd give it a solid eight.

1054
01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:59.280
Yeah, I found it. I found it interesting when she

1055
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:04.840
was explaining to Con about not wanting to kill the crew,

1056
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:08.079
you know, the captain and the who and everybody else,

1057
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:13.039
and then at the same time she says something like

1058
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:17.039
like she felt like she was trapped on the Enterprise,

1059
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:21.000
that nobody knew her name. The captain didn't even know

1060
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:24.400
who she was because the only reason why he knew

1061
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.320
her is because Con was there and he called her

1062
01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:28.840
up for that particular away team. And it gave me

1063
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:33.679
a different impression of her impression of what life was

1064
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:36.400
like on the Enterprise versus what she thought life would

1065
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:41.320
be like living with KHN on SETI Alpha five, which

1066
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:44.440
was cool. And I agree with Paul, this makes con.

1067
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:47.639
This puts a different light on kN than we used

1068
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:51.599
to seeing. You know, he's upset because Marl is pissed

1069
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.960
off at him, and he goes to who is the

1070
01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:58.880
dude that he talked to Ivan? I don't remember. I

1071
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:02.280
think it was Ivan. He goes to talk to Ivan

1072
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:05.840
about how to deal with with Marla, and it just

1073
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:09.360
it makes con look more human, it brings him down off.

1074
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:12.360
This no, sorry, that scene. I believe he's talking to

1075
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:13.559
Joaquin in that one.

1076
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:18.119
Yeah, he talks to somebody and who later on dies,

1077
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:19.400
which I was.

1078
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:21.400
I was wide.

1079
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.360
I was like, oh my god, they killed him off

1080
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:32.119
with a giant, flying, parasite winged creature thing stetdi dactyl.

1081
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:33.239
That's it.

1082
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:36.239
Yeah, So I I with Paul, I'm going to give

1083
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:38.639
this one an eight. It was a little bit slower

1084
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.800
than the first one. Uh, it did have a lot.

1085
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.800
I felt like, and guys, come on, are these are

1086
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:48.800
these augments? Are they like pon firing all over the place?

1087
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:51.719
For God's sakes.

1088
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:56.079
Those two are teenagers, and you know most teenagers pretty horny.

1089
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.760
So I actually liked that part of the story. Yeah.

1090
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.519
Lord, I mean it's only it's a forty two minute,

1091
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:06.519
uh radio drama, and they're they're getting jiggy with it

1092
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:09.519
twice in the in the forty minutes. I was like, wow,

1093
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:12.039
But I yeah, I'm going to give it an eight.

1094
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:14.320
I'm with Paul, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with an eight.

1095
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:18.159
What about you, Eric? Uh?

1096
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:22.079
Yeah, I enjoyed this episode. I think I'm kind of

1097
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:24.079
with you guys in that it. You know, it's a

1098
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:28.679
little fillery, but what there was some cool stuff going on.

1099
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:31.599
I think Paul in his intro did a did a

1100
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:33.760
good job of kind of talking about the two main

1101
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:37.880
stories that I saw, which was the mcgiver's con story,

1102
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:43.800
and then there's the the Richter and uh is Erica

1103
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.000
his girl? I think eric is his girlfriend? Like there

1104
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:49.920
kind of thing going on. I mean, I love that

1105
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:54.039
there's a I love the character of Richter because I

1106
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:56.880
love that there's an augment whose like superpowers, that he

1107
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.239
draws really well, and that he kind of sees these

1108
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:04.360
things that like other people don't see. He's a good,

1109
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:09.280
you know, alternative character too. I think we fall into

1110
01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:12.000
this trap of thinking that all augments are just warriors,

1111
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.400
you know, they just want to go around conquering things,

1112
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:18.119
and and you know, of course con comes across you

1113
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:22.119
know you as you were alluding there, Jim, you know,

1114
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:24.239
there's a there's a big death at the end. Of

1115
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:27.559
this one, and Cohn's response to that big death is

1116
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.440
I'm going to you know, strangle this planet and make

1117
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:35.159
it mine. And he kind of like has this dominance

1118
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:38.719
thing that he is now talking about, and we talked

1119
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:40.480
about that last week when he was talking about he

1120
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:42.760
didn't say, go fishing and get us some food. He said,

1121
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.960
you know, go dominate the sea and make it give

1122
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:50.239
up its bounty to us. So it's very it's very

1123
01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:53.800
Muchie Mom in a lot of ways. But but yeah,

1124
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:57.800
I they balanced that with this idea that the history

1125
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:01.920
books on Earth have villain I con and you know,

1126
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:06.559
McGivern says, I think in this one something like, you know,

1127
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:10.960
there were never any big genocides underneath your your rule,

1128
01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:14.760
like you were generally a benevolent ruler. And I think

1129
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:18.239
that's a cool kind of alternate side to to con

1130
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:23.639
no big massacres under under his rule. Uh, let's see

1131
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:28.679
ivan pretty shaded character. I think he's the guy who,

1132
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:32.280
like I distrust the most. I mean, I'm pretty sure

1133
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.440
he pushed Hugo U Hugh off the cliff or Hugo,

1134
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:38.079
whatever the guy's name was. I think he's the one

1135
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:43.599
who killed him. He makes this comment, oh, what is

1136
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:49.320
that he he makes some comment in here it's probably

1137
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:51.360
my notes here somewhere where you kind of get the

1138
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.960
idea that maybe he's kind of angling.

1139
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:55.159
To be.

1140
01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.079
In charge of things. And then of course that the

1141
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:02.960
end where where Con sort of goes away and he's

1142
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:04.840
gonna go do his thing, and he's like, if I

1143
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:08.000
don't come back, Ivan, you're you know, you're in charge,

1144
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:10.559
And I'm just like, oh, this is gonna be a

1145
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.320
different society if Ivan's in charge of things, because he

1146
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.960
seems pretty I mean, he's the guy who like couldn't

1147
01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.199
wait for the the targ or whatever for the board

1148
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:22.720
to dine after it got shot, right, he had to

1149
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:24.399
go in there and like stab it to death with

1150
01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:29.840
his knife and come out blood soaked. So super shady character.

1151
01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:33.760
Don't trust him. Interested to see where that where that

1152
01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:36.119
story goes. I think at some point there's probably gonna

1153
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:39.039
have to be a reckoning between Khn and Ivan, That's

1154
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.239
my guess. That's the way they're kind of setting it up,

1155
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.079
I think, But I don't know. I'll have to see.

1156
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:53.199
So yeah, love Richter, love hate Ivan, and I really

1157
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:55.119
want to see what a duck build Kwala Bear looks

1158
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:55.840
like so.

1159
01:08:57.600 --> 01:08:59.520
Why is he smiling? What does he know?

1160
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:04.600
Yeah? So, yeah, I dug this one. I feel like

1161
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:05.600
eight is about right.

1162
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:05.880
Yeah.

1163
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:08.319
I mean that that last that beginning one was really

1164
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:10.199
like that was like a nine to five. It was

1165
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:12.960
right up there. So yeah, I'll agree with you all

1166
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:14.439
right now, I think it was about an eight.

1167
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.359
Well, David, the pressure's on again. What do you think

1168
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:22.239
I got a bunch of eights?

1169
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.319
Yeah, I might have to go a little bit higher

1170
01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:27.600
with this one, just because I did like the character

1171
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:32.079
development of Cohn and how they did betray him just

1172
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:34.920
a regular human, you know, because he would kind of

1173
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:39.560
in a way, how was basically telling him that, you know,

1174
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:41.760
you can just write your own story. You don't have

1175
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:45.600
to go based off of what Earth history had deemed

1176
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:48.520
you ash And so I was like, that's kind of

1177
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:50.439
an interesting way of putting it. Even though we all

1178
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:53.000
know him as a villain, what if he did have

1179
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.199
like a very interesting path where he was just like,

1180
01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.520
you know, all good and guy inside or whatever. But yeah,

1181
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:04.680
it's just the idea that he he did have this

1182
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:10.680
defect in his genome. I guess you could say about

1183
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:14.640
him being like always wanting to be a conqueror, a

1184
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:18.960
dominant guy and so's it's an interesting way of looking

1185
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:22.880
at how they portrayed him in the backstory. And I

1186
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:25.840
actually enjoyed that part. And I would have to agree

1187
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:29.880
with you, Jim where you mentioned about Mara, where Captain

1188
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.399
Kirk didn't know her name until the mission came out.

1189
01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:35.159
When I heard that, I was like, WHOA, that makes

1190
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:39.079
a lot of sense. I bet you all the starts

1191
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:43.159
for the captains don't know anybody's name. That's the lower deck.

1192
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:45.479
So I mean that makes sense to the point where

1193
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:47.760
it's like in a ship of what four hundred crew,

1194
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:54.399
you can't know everybody until you get him on the mission.

1195
01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:59.840
So so I like that whole aspect of the story plot.

1196
01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:03.560
How driven and it was a little slow, I have

1197
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.039
to say, yes, but like you guys were saying, it

1198
01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:07.720
was a filler episode, So it was just kind of

1199
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:12.640
like an sense of getting every getting to know everybody.

1200
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:15.239
The first episode to me was just like action pack

1201
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:18.720
and it was just full of like trying to lay

1202
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:20.960
the ground work for everybody. But the inn the second episode,

1203
01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:23.079
it was just like now you're geting to get to

1204
01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:26.359
know everybody, And to me, I actually enjoyed that part

1205
01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:29.359
A lot, and for that, I actually think I'm gonna

1206
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:31.720
have to bring the score up to a little bit

1207
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:33.159
higher than what you guys gave it, and the I'm

1208
01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:34.039
gonna go with a nine.

1209
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:40.159
A nine cool, cool, And Charles, that means you got

1210
01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:41.159
the caboose, buddy.

1211
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.560
I think everybody got most of the topic in there.

1212
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:50.119
I thought it interesting where they're going through and studying

1213
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:53.159
all the life on the planet. Then they reached the

1214
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:55.880
point it's like, Okay, the women and the artists can

1215
01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:58.239
sit there and discover the planet while the men go

1216
01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:01.520
do the hunting, and yet there's just to be augment

1217
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:04.840
and rather equals. So I thought that was interesting that

1218
01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:06.960
Khan was still taking that stereotype.

1219
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:15.279
As for Hugo, I was I was just gonna say, Charles,

1220
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:17.199
I agree with you. They probably should have put like

1221
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:19.560
a woman in the hunting party, right, that would be

1222
01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:21.640
kind of cool to like flip that on its head

1223
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:22.239
just a little bit.

1224
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:26.720
Yeah, that he still kind of went with that stereotype,

1225
01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:34.159
which was interesting. But they were sitting there trying to

1226
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:37.199
figure out what how to name all these creatures, like Okay,

1227
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:40.880
we've had creatures similar like this on Earth, but we're

1228
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:43.760
not going to name them Earth names, so we have

1229
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:46.760
got to give them their own name, even though some

1230
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:49.399
of them kind are still using the earth type name

1231
01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:53.479
with them. As for Hugo, I was kind of on

1232
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:59.000
the impression that he probably was tossed pushed over that

1233
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:06.039
cliff because of what he said in episode one. But

1234
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:07.840
I think in Summery, I think with the group. I

1235
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:09.680
kind of agree with the group on this one. This

1236
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:12.560
was a little bit of a filler and an eight.

1237
01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:25.520
You're muted there, Jim, Well.

1238
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.760
It's just it's mine, you know, it's mine. It's mine.

1239
01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:33.760
So we got some eights in the nine. That's still respectable,

1240
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:35.960
still very respectable.

1241
01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:39.800
So Richter gets lost at the end of this one.

1242
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.039
Where did he go? I don't know. I'm kind of

1243
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:45.319
like hopefully, I mean, maybe one of you guys is

1244
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:46.920
already listened to the next one. I haven't listened to

1245
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:49.079
the next one, but like, he sort of just disappears

1246
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:50.399
and nobody really knows where he is.

1247
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:52.880
So I think he's going to be implanted by.

1248
01:13:55.039 --> 01:14:00.520
Yeah, I think, yeah, I did it intimate that. Sorry,

1249
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:00.920
go ahead.

1250
01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:04.720
I did listen to this one, two and three together,

1251
01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:08.680
and I think some of the answers were in there.

1252
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:13.319
But we also get some more details about something coming

1253
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:16.000
from the movie six.

1254
01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:22.319
Wow. Cool cool. All right, guys. So that wraps up

1255
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:27.600
our discussion on con episode two, and next week we'll

1256
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.840
do episode thread three three three three three, and uh,

1257
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:31.960
you know what that means.

1258
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:33.720
It's time for some.

1259
01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:36.600
Star Trek birthdays. You guys ready for some Star Trek birthdays?

1260
01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:44.359
Kay birthdays?

1261
01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:58.079
That was not a clon song.

1262
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:03.359
No, or if it wasn't, but we like it anyways.

1263
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:05.279
All right, guys, this is the part of the show

1264
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:07.920
where we do it well. We're doing sci fi birthdays

1265
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.920
this week. We're gonna shake things up a little bit,

1266
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:13.840
and we like to start off the show by remembering

1267
01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.760
those members of the family who, sadly enough, are no

1268
01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:19.439
longer with us, and for that we turned to Eric

1269
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:20.960
Yeh Jim.

1270
01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.920
We have a lot of remembrances this week. I'm gonna

1271
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:26.840
Blastrheom so that we have plenty of time for everybody.

1272
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:32.720
Our first remembrance this week goes out to actor Morgan Farley.

1273
01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:36.920
Morgan Farley made two appearances in Star Trek, one as

1274
01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:41.000
hay Coom, a male Baden in the TOS episode The

1275
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:44.840
Return of the Arkans, and one as a Yangs Scholar

1276
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:49.640
in the TOS second season episode The Omega Glory. He

1277
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.239
of course, is one of only fourteen Star Trek guest

1278
01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:54.920
stars born in the nineteenth century. He was born in

1279
01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:59.640
eighteen ninety eight and was already close to seventy years

1280
01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:01.720
old at the time that he made his two Star

1281
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:04.800
Trek appearances. So I think that's kind of kind of cool,

1282
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:07.159
you know, we always I know, I have a tendency

1283
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:09.159
to think, oh yeah, you know, young people were young

1284
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:11.479
back in the sixties when we were on Star Trek.

1285
01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:13.439
But there, you know, there were older characters at that

1286
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:14.880
time too, and some of them were born in the

1287
01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.920
nineteenth century. He played a large number of mostly small

1288
01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.159
parts in movies, and during the middle of his career

1289
01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:24.399
he was also on television. He also played a role

1290
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:29.000
in the Broadway musical seventeen, and during the Second World War,

1291
01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:32.800
Farley served as an officer in the US Army as well.

1292
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.000
So Happy birthday to Morgan Farley. We lost him back

1293
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:40.399
in nineteen eighty eight at the age of ninety years old.

1294
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:44.800
Happy birthday, Happy birthday as well. To Madeline Roue born

1295
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.880
Madeline Solomon, She was a prolific character actress who played

1296
01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:53.359
Lieutenant Marlon mcgivers. Hey, look at that in the TOS

1297
01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:57.680
first season episode space Seed. The timeliness is crazy right

1298
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:02.079
now roommate over a hundred appearances on television, including appearances

1299
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:05.479
on Have Gun, Will Travel, The Untouchables, Gunsmoke, Hawaii Five Oh,

1300
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:08.560
The Man from Uncle, Mission Impossible, and Starsky and Hutch.

1301
01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:11.880
In a nineteen sixty episode of Bonanza, she played the

1302
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:16.039
wife of her Space Seed co star Ricardo Montaban. No kidding,

1303
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:18.439
they were in something even before space Seed, which I

1304
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:22.520
think is pretty cool. After star Trek ruined, Montaban reunited

1305
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:27.920
a second time for an episode of Fantasy Island. In

1306
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.560
nineteen seventy seven, Roux was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis and

1307
01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:36.520
was reportedly eventually had to use a cane thing, crutches,

1308
01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:39.600
and finally a wheelchair, but she continued to act all

1309
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:42.960
through the progression of her disease, with her final on

1310
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:45.720
screen appearance being in nineteen ninety six. I think that

1311
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:47.800
is super cool. She pushed it as long as she

1312
01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:52.319
possibly could, so. Madeline Rue a fantastic actress. We lost

1313
01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:54.239
her back in two thousand and three at sixty eight

1314
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:58.560
years old. Happy Birthday to her now for one of

1315
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:02.159
Jim's laterals. I had to do some research on this

1316
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:03.680
one because I was like, I don't think this guy

1317
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.239
was in Star Trek. Maybe he wasn't, but he's Star

1318
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:09.119
Trek adjacent. So we're gonna say happy Birthday this week

1319
01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:14.239
to Donald Pleasance. Donald Pleasance, of course, is an English

1320
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:20.520
actor born in works Up, Nottinghamshire, England, and he was

1321
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:25.680
most famous for playing doctor Sam Loomis in the Halloween films.

1322
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:31.279
But adjacency to Star Trek is kind of cool, So

1323
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:38.359
follow me here. In Enterprise this third season episode Carpenter Street,

1324
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:42.279
which is one of those temporal Cold War ones, there

1325
01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:46.039
are several references to the nineteen seventy eight horror film Halloween.

1326
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.520
In fact, the title and street name is a reference

1327
01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:54.319
to director John Carpenter. Loomis is a reference to doctor

1328
01:18:54.359 --> 01:18:57.119
Sam Loomis. This guy right here played by Donald Pleasance,

1329
01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:01.479
Lawrence Strode is a reference to Lori Strode played by

1330
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:06.600
Jamie Lee Curtis. Loomis talks about a mister Myers, a reference,

1331
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:10.039
of course to the infamous killer Michael Myers, and Loomis

1332
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:13.079
drives an old station wagon much like the one Myers

1333
01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:19.159
drives in the film Halloween. So Donald Pleasance from Halloween

1334
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:25.119
Fame has indirect adjacencies through kind of an obscure episode

1335
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:27.520
of Star Trek Enterprise in There You Go. But of

1336
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:29.800
course there are all these other great credits to this

1337
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.279
guy's name all over the place, right Twilight Zone, Fantastic Voyage,

1338
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:36.359
Escape from New York. He was in You Only Live

1339
01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:40.800
twice as the bad guy there. So Happy Birthday to

1340
01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:45.039
Don Pleasance not in Star Trek but Star Trek adjacent

1341
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:49.039
Happy Birthday as well to Skip Holmeyer, the actor who

1342
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:53.119
played Melicon in the TOS second season episode Pattern of

1343
01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:57.079
Force Patterns of Course, and doctor Severn in the third

1344
01:19:57.079 --> 01:20:00.239
season episode The Way to Eden. Melican of course is

1345
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:04.399
the ecosion aka the Nazi dude, and Severn is the

1346
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:07.319
ty Burian who's the guy with funny ears that we

1347
01:20:07.359 --> 01:20:10.079
are showing you on our screen. Outside of Star Trek

1348
01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:13.560
Homeyer cars co starred in such films as The Gunfighter

1349
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:20.000
with Gregory Peck. Sounds familiar Ethan's Dad. Yeah, he was

1350
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:23.039
in a whole bunch of kind of Western stuff back

1351
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:26.239
in the day too. And he also played this character

1352
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:30.920
named Judge Charles h Older in the movie Helter Skelter

1353
01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:34.560
the movie by Charles Manson, so if you haven't seen

1354
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:39.279
that movie, might be interested and playing. Interestingly, playing doctor

1355
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:44.119
Severn was not Homeyer's first experience with facial prosthetics, because

1356
01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:46.640
he also wore them in a nineteen sixty four episode

1357
01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:51.960
of The Outer Limits called Expanding Human, which coincidentally featured

1358
01:20:52.199 --> 01:20:54.720
James Dewen, another Star Trek name you might have heard of.

1359
01:20:55.039 --> 01:21:01.039
So Happy birthday to Skip Homeyer, interesting actor who played

1360
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:02.760
lots of cool things. You should go look up his

1361
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:06.560
IMDb page. Happy birthday as well to Ed Long, who

1362
01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:11.359
played Midro in the TOS third season episode The Cloud Minders.

1363
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:13.880
He has a handful of screen credits to his name,

1364
01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:19.840
including appearances on The Fugitive Mannix, the original Batman series, Bonanza, Gunsmoke,

1365
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:23.199
and a few other of those nineteen sixties television shows.

1366
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:25.600
We lost him back in twenty fifteen at eighty four

1367
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:29.319
years old. Happy birthday to Ed Long. Happy birthday to

1368
01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:34.439
John Hoyt, the veteran actor of film, television, and theater

1369
01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:39.159
who played Phil Boyce. That's right, Phil Boyce in the

1370
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:44.880
original series first pilot, The Cage. John Hoyt was originally

1371
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:52.239
born John MacArthur Hoystrat in the Bronxville, New York. He

1372
01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:56.920
worked as a teacher of history before he got into theater,

1373
01:21:57.119 --> 01:21:59.680
and then he sort of went from theater into the

1374
01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:02.760
arm me and then he went from army into acting.

1375
01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:06.159
But this guy has two hundred and fifty plus screen

1376
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:12.760
credits to his name, running the gambit of everything. It's

1377
01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:15.199
like way too many things for me to even talk about.

1378
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:18.279
It's like paragraphs of roles that this guy has played.

1379
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.239
So since I can't really into the timely fashion talk

1380
01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:24.560
about the things that he's done, I'll just say that

1381
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:28.560
I personally love Phil Boyce. I love his little portable

1382
01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:32.159
Martini station. He feels to me like a real kind

1383
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:36.840
of proto bones character who I would have been happy

1384
01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:39.239
to have had as a regular cast member in the

1385
01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:42.600
original series. And I'm keeping my fingers crossed that maybe

1386
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:44.640
one day we get to see doctor Phil Boyce on

1387
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:47.680
Strange New Worlds. Not sure if we will, but John

1388
01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:50.279
Hoyt was the original. We lost him back in nineteen

1389
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:53.800
ninety one and eighty five years old. Happy birthday to

1390
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:58.520
John Hoyt. Happy birthday to Lois Jewel, a former actress

1391
01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:01.159
and model who played Drew Silla in the TOS second

1392
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:05.199
season episode Bred and Circuses. She was, of course a

1393
01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:09.319
professional model, as she appeared in over eighty television commercials

1394
01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:12.920
and numerous print ads. Her only other acting credit was

1395
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:17.920
the pilot episode of The Flying Nun from nineteen sixty seven. Unfortunately,

1396
01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:25.600
she sort of became disillusioned with the acting environment of

1397
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:29.760
that time. You probably can understand where I'm going with that,

1398
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.600
and she eventually went into business with her husband, Harold Jewell,

1399
01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:39.520
making appearances and then also made appearances on the convention circuit,

1400
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:44.640
the TOS Star Trek Convention Circuit. So Lowe's Jewel. We

1401
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:46.199
didn't get to see as much acting out of her

1402
01:23:46.199 --> 01:23:50.239
as maybe we would have liked. But I did like

1403
01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:53.600
her character of Drusilla. So Happy Birthday to Lois Lost

1404
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:56.840
back in twenty fourteen at seventy six years old. Happy

1405
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.680
birthday as well to Harriet c Leader, the actress who

1406
01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:03.079
played to Amri in the Next Gurnation first season episode

1407
01:24:03.159 --> 01:24:07.079
Unification two. She of course is that four handed salt

1408
01:24:07.119 --> 01:24:13.199
sucking pianist in the bar On Kwailar two. She appeared

1409
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:16.880
on the television series The Commission Also Married with Children,

1410
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:19.159
My so called Life and the Time of year life,

1411
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:24.399
and has film credits in supporting roles in Torch Song

1412
01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:28.439
Trilogy from eighty eight, For Parents Only from ninety one,

1413
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:33.720
and the thriller Dream Lover from ninety three. Fortunately we

1414
01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:37.079
lost Harriet Way too young, only fifty nine years old

1415
01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:39.760
when she passed away in two thousand and four. Happy

1416
01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:43.880
Birthday to Harriet Leader, Happy Birthday to Lorna Raver, the

1417
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:47.600
actress who played the judge Q in the Voyager seven

1418
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:51.319
season episode Q two. She's probably best known for her

1419
01:24:51.439 --> 01:24:55.199
role as missus Ganoosh in Drag Me to Hell from

1420
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:59.000
two thousand and nine. And you know, I've actually never

1421
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:00.520
seen this movie, but I really kind of want to

1422
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:03.000
go see it because for this role, she received two

1423
01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:06.800
Scream Award nominations in the categories of Best Villain and

1424
01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:11.720
Best Breakout Performance in two thousand and nine, and she

1425
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:15.760
also got a Saturn Award nomination in the category of

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01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:21.600
Best Supporting Actress. She eventually won the chainsaw Award at

1427
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:27.880
the Fangoria chainsaw Awards as for Best Supporting Actress in

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01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:32.960
twenty ten. So I don't know, that seems pretty cool. Unfortunately,

1429
01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:36.600
we lost Laurna just literally this past May. She passed

1430
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:40.960
away May twelfth, twenty twenty five, at eighty one years old.

1431
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:44.279
So happy birthday and we miss you to Laura Raver

1432
01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:47.079
and last, but not least, I'd like to say happy

1433
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:50.359
birthday this week to Barbara Marsh, the stage, film and

1434
01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:54.039
television actress best known for playing the Klingon Larsa in

1435
01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:57.800
the Next Generation episodes Redemption, Redemption Part two and Firstborn,

1436
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:01.399
and in Deep Space Nines first season episode Past Prologue,

1437
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:05.880
and also in Star Trek Generations. In nineteen ninety eight,

1438
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:09.199
she provided her voice for Larsa in a video game

1439
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:13.920
called Klingon On Our Guard. She's also a well known

1440
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:18.680
stage actress in Canada, touring with several theaters. In the

1441
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:24.479
early eighties. She played roles in Othello, Neil Simon's Chapter two,

1442
01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:31.119
The Homecoming, Present, Laughter, Macbeth, and the Gayden Chronicles. Besides

1443
01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:32.720
her work on stage and in front of the camera,

1444
01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:36.199
she also wrote several screenplays and treatments for television, and

1445
01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:38.920
worked as a story editor and an original episode writer

1446
01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:44.119
for the Canadian television series Mysterious Island in nineteen ninety five.

1447
01:26:46.119 --> 01:26:48.279
Also had several bit parts here and there on other

1448
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:53.000
television series. But I think Larsa is absolutely one of

1449
01:26:53.039 --> 01:26:57.520
the most recognizable Klingons in all of Star Trek, along

1450
01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:01.800
with her sister Betor. So happy to Barbara Marsh. We

1451
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:07.399
definitely miss your that face. That face right there, which

1452
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:09.479
is what I think of when I think of Larsa

1453
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:14.199
lost in twenty nineteen and only sixty five years old.

1454
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:18.439
And that does it for our remembrances, guys, a good

1455
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:22.680
list of people all over the place who we miss dearly.

1456
01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:25.399
So Charles, I'm gonna pass this birthday candle over to you.

1457
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:26.880
Oh thank you.

1458
01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:27.319
Eric.

1459
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:31.159
Let's start off with a Happy birthday to Hannah Cheeseman,

1460
01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:35.880
Canadian actress who was the second person to play the

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01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:43.560
role of Ariam in the second season of Discovery. Happy

1462
01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:50.439
birthday to Wendy Robbie, I just played Lannie Beller in

1463
01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:56.960
DF nine's Thursdays in an episode Destiny. Happy birthday to

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01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:01.640
Carol Daniels, stunt woman and stunt actress and some actress

1465
01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:06.520
who played Zora in the cos third season episode Savage Curtain.

1466
01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:10.880
Her first Chart Trek connection was in nineteen sixty four

1467
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:15.359
when she worked as a stand in on The Cage.

1468
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:21.319
Happy Birthday to John the Prino is an actress who

1469
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:26.000
played Orbis in Star Trek Voyagers fourth season episode Year

1470
01:28:26.039 --> 01:28:31.720
of Hell and Year of Hell Part two. Happy birthday

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01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:38.840
to Lulu Wilson, the actress who appeared aske Kestra Troy

1472
01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:46.640
Reicher in his Tar Trek Bacord Bercard's first season episode Nepenthe.

1473
01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:52.319
Happy birthday to Zara Zenaker, the American actress who played

1474
01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:56.119
to Paul and Enterprise this fourth season episode Awakening in

1475
01:28:56.960 --> 01:29:03.079
Kirshir Shar. Last on my list a non Star Trek.

1476
01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:08.039
Happy birthday to Karen Allen, who portrayed Marion Ravens Wood

1477
01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:11.600
and Raiders The Lost Arc, Indiana Jones in the Kingdom

1478
01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:16.800
of the Christal Skull and Indiana Jones The Dial of Destiny.

1479
01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:21.000
I mean, you want to talk about childhood crushes, man,

1480
01:29:22.319 --> 01:29:24.479
forget about it for.

1481
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:29.159
Me and the great, the great John Carpenter movie starman,

1482
01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:32.880
I don't know if you've that was such a I

1483
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:35.439
don't care, very delightful and that really.

1484
01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:37.680
Really I can't think of his name now.

1485
01:29:38.479 --> 01:29:39.640
Bridges, Jeff Bridges.

1486
01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:45.359
That was a really really sweet movie, heartbreaking but still sweet.

1487
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:49.600
Yeah. And if you really want to see early Karen Allen,

1488
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:53.119
go look at Animal House, right, she is, like I

1489
01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:55.279
don't know, she did it like two or three years

1490
01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:58.479
before Raiders, right, but she's like super young and like

1491
01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:01.479
a little naughty house, I would say.

1492
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:06.439
And Christmas Christmas Special Scrooge.

1493
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:11.319
Oh yeah, that's right. She isn't Scrooge. Yeah, she's Bill

1494
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:12.640
Murray's love interest. That's right.

1495
01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:19.760
Was she Chris Pine's wife in the Perfect Storm?

1496
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:23.119
Maybe Chris Pine is in the Perfect Storm?

1497
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:25.680
I think it was a perfect Storm. Isn't that the

1498
01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:30.399
one with the with the Coastguard? Isn't that where they

1499
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:31.800
go out to rescue the ship?

1500
01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:34.560
I don't know perfect storms. George Clooney is a.

1501
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:38.000
Oh okay, I got my movies mixed up some of

1502
01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:38.399
the movie.

1503
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:39.880
Yeah, it must be something else. I don't know a

1504
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:44.000
Coastguard one? But all right, is that a cost picture

1505
01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:44.520
you're thinking of?

1506
01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:47.159
It might be. Yeah.

1507
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:48.960
I'm seeing like I don't remember it, but I'm seeming

1508
01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.800
to remember something in the Coast Guard with Kevin Costye.

1509
01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:59.640
With that mine, Paul, who's on your birthday list? I

1510
01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:01.479
passed flaming candle.

1511
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:01.640
Over to you.

1512
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:05.680
Oh, thank you all. Be careful not to get wax

1513
01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:09.119
on my lip here. Thank you. Charles appreciate it. So

1514
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:12.479
first of all, let's give it up to Lena Headi,

1515
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:18.079
phenomenal English and Bermudan actress who we are acknowledging here

1516
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:22.159
for her pivotal turn as Queen Circe Lanister in Game

1517
01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:27.319
of Thrones, which is an amazing picture and if you're

1518
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:30.039
a Game of Thrones fan, you might want to pop

1519
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:33.199
on over it to YouTube. They are just now releasing

1520
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:37.479
the trailer for the Night of the Seven Kingdoms, which

1521
01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:41.039
is another HBO series based on Georgia, so check that.

1522
01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:46.039
But Lena Hetty is amazing. She's great, really awesome in

1523
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:50.479
the TV series Sarah Connor Chronicles, where she played the

1524
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:53.600
title character, Sarah Connor, And we were just talking about

1525
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:57.720
Dread with Carl Urbin and she's actually the villain in Dread.

1526
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:01.399
She's really super cool and agonist in that, so she's

1527
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:05.159
real badass. Lena Hetty's great, really tremendous. But boy, her

1528
01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:08.520
work on Game of Thrones man shes timeless. Happy birthday

1529
01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:11.960
to you, friend, you are amazing. Happy Birthday goes out

1530
01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:15.560
to a deal. Hussein, an Indian actor who played adit

1531
01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:18.800
Ya Sahil in Star Trek Discovery third season episodes. The

1532
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:21.720
hope that is you, Part one, People of Earth, and

1533
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:26.000
the Hope that is You Part two. Happy Birthday. Gonna

1534
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:27.880
slow things down a minute because I don't want to

1535
01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:30.359
have like a heart attack or nothing, because I cannot

1536
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:32.079
believe my good fortune to be able to say Happy

1537
01:32:32.079 --> 01:32:39.479
birthday to this luminary, this magnificent human being, this legend,

1538
01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:45.039
the great Sigourney Weaver, who I have been a fan

1539
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:49.279
of ever since I first heard her. Academy Award nominated

1540
01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:53.680
actress best known for playing, of course, Ellen Ripley in

1541
01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:57.880
the Alien franchise. She got an Oscar nomination for her

1542
01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:01.119
work in Cameron sequel Alien, and it was like one

1543
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.479
of the first times in like forever that a science

1544
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:08.319
fiction performance had been honored with an Oscar nomina. I

1545
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:11.920
didn't win, but man was it was big news back

1546
01:33:11.960 --> 01:33:14.479
then because she really does an incredible job of playing

1547
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.840
a survivor of trauma in that picture. It's just legendary.

1548
01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:22.239
But she's just done so much good work, right, I mean,

1549
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:27.640
she's just amazing. The whole Alien franchise is just one thing, right,

1550
01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:30.479
But she's been in at least a couple of Ghostbusters movies.

1551
01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:36.279
There is no data, only zool, right, Galaxy Quest, where

1552
01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:38.399
she you know, donned a blonde wig and kind of

1553
01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:40.920
you know, really had a lot of fun doing her

1554
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:45.279
whole thing there, Dynamite serial killer movie called Copycat that

1555
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.960
if you've not checked that out, it is amongst some

1556
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:53.119
of her best performances. I think she's great. And there's

1557
01:33:53.159 --> 01:33:55.560
a lot of voiceover work for the Pixar folks. She

1558
01:33:55.640 --> 01:34:00.359
did voiceover work for Finding Dory and for Wally. She

1559
01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:04.079
did tons of work for those guys there. And she

1560
01:34:04.319 --> 01:34:07.399
is not taking any kind of retirement any time soon

1561
01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:09.880
that I can see, because she is all over the

1562
01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:15.119
place in the Avatar franchise. She's even does voice work

1563
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:19.199
as a teenage character in the last Avatar movie, right.

1564
01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:22.000
I mean, it's full motion capture, the whole deal. It

1565
01:34:22.039 --> 01:34:24.600
looks like a young Sigourney Weaver, but she's playing a

1566
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:27.359
teenager and her voice sounds like a teenager. So there's

1567
01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:30.159
just she's just amazing. I just think she's one of

1568
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:35.199
those class acts just radiates cool man. I would love

1569
01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:39.760
to meet her. She's just absolutely phenomenal, but just a

1570
01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:43.399
good bastion of quality work. Right, never lets you down.

1571
01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:48.760
She's just absolutely tremendous. So huge fan Sigourney Weaver. We

1572
01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:53.520
salute you, friend. You really hope to redefine the role

1573
01:34:53.720 --> 01:35:01.840
of heroic held more vultively than we. We love you amazing.

1574
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:04.560
Have a great birthday. Happy birthday to Duncan Regor, a

1575
01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:08.319
Canadian actor, writer and artist who played one in the

1576
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:11.960
Next Gen seven season episode sub Rosa. I wonder what

1577
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.399
happens in that episode.

1578
01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:17.720
It was the hottest, hottest evil ghost ever.

1579
01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:21.399
I might have to watch sub Rosa again just to

1580
01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:24.319
refresh my memory. He then played the recurring role of

1581
01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:28.000
Shaikhar Eton on Deep Space nine, appearing in three episodes

1582
01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:32.720
Shakar Crossmeyer and the Begutten, and the recurring role. Happy

1583
01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:36.800
birthday to rosalind Landor, actress who played Brenda O'Dell in

1584
01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:39.760
the Next Generation second season episode Up the Long Ladder.

1585
01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:42.720
I remember that episode. I believe it is replete with

1586
01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:48.039
rather painful to endure not so realistic Irish accents if

1587
01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:51.520
I remember correctly. It was kind of the brigid boon

1588
01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:56.640
of the early iterations of Next Gen and challenging. But

1589
01:35:56.760 --> 01:35:59.840
Happy birthday anyway to you, rosalind Landor. You were at

1590
01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:02.960
no fault, of course for that episode, but you were

1591
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:06.079
great in it. So there you go, and big happy

1592
01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:12.319
birthday to Scott Bacula, very claimed actor who played the

1593
01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:16.039
lead role of Jonathan Archer in Star Trek Enterprise. And

1594
01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:18.479
I'm sure if you're anywhere on the Internet, you've seen

1595
01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:21.920
that there's just a lot of buzzing activity going on

1596
01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:24.760
there right now where they are trying to see if

1597
01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:31.920
they can get an Captain Archer series featuring an older

1598
01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:35.479
Admiral Archer together, you know, and see if they can

1599
01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:37.720
do kind of for that character what they did for,

1600
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:41.159
you know, Admiral Poverty, if you will, and do an

1601
01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:44.880
Archwer centric episode. Sounds like they am have not rolled

1602
01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:46.760
over quietly, and they keep pitching and trying to see

1603
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:49.000
if they can maybe even turn it into like something

1604
01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:51.880
more and or like where there's a lot of political

1605
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:56.880
mechanizations going on in Starfleet right and something of that niche.

1606
01:36:56.920 --> 01:36:59.399
So I would love to see that happen. I would

1607
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:01.439
love to see some that's very intriguing. So I hope

1608
01:37:01.479 --> 01:37:04.640
that that bears fruit. But that's all I've got here

1609
01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:08.039
this week. Lots of great folks having birthdays. To all

1610
01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:12.359
of my fellow scorpios, I salute you, and we'll pass

1611
01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:15.319
it over to battles Wheel there, Uncle Jim.

1612
01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:19.319
Why, thank you so much, Paul. Yeah, I don't have

1613
01:37:19.359 --> 01:37:22.199
a lot. I like to do the klingon, so I

1614
01:37:22.239 --> 01:37:24.920
saved them for the last and I have one who

1615
01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:28.800
could be a Klingon but unfortunately wasn't. First off, I

1616
01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:32.279
want to start off by saying happy birthday to Jennifer Gotti.

1617
01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:34.000
And there she is on the screen. If you guys

1618
01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:37.199
are head over to our Patreon page and become patrons,

1619
01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:39.760
you could be seeing these awesome pictures on the screen

1620
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:44.680
right now. There she is right there. She's the actress

1621
01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:47.399
who played bay Al on the TNG six season episode

1622
01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:51.439
Birthright Part one, Birthright Part two, and she also appeared

1623
01:37:51.439 --> 01:37:56.000
as Libby in the Voyager episode Non Sequitor. And she

1624
01:37:56.159 --> 01:38:00.000
actually was half Klingon, half romulent, which is why Warfed

1625
01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:02.119
threw her out of bed. That's a whole topic for

1626
01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:07.479
another show. But happy birthday, yes exactly.

1627
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:12.439
Yeah, like the missionary position, that is all.

1628
01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:18.319
I will do him. So Happy birthday to Jennifer Gotti.

1629
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:21.720
And we also have another kling on. I want to

1630
01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:25.920
say happy birthday to Abbas wahabb He's an actor and

1631
01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:29.520
comedian who played rock Wog in this strange New World

1632
01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:32.560
second season episode Broken Circle, and there he is on

1633
01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:35.399
the screen and all of his cling on this happy

1634
01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:41.600
birthday and kaplah and last, but oh definitely not least again,

1635
01:38:42.039 --> 01:38:45.199
if you grew up in the eighties, well this technically

1636
01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:49.439
was the late seventies, and you didn't have a crush

1637
01:38:50.119 --> 01:38:54.560
on her. You definitely had a crush on Aaron Gray.

1638
01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:58.239
But we're going to talk about Pamela Hemsley Happy Birthday,

1639
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:02.279
the American actress and born in Glendock, California, best known

1640
01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:06.760
as a draconian princess ar Dala in buck Rogers in

1641
01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:08.680
the twenty fifth century. And there she is with her

1642
01:39:08.720 --> 01:39:12.000
horns on, being all horny, slinking around in her little

1643
01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:15.079
bikini deal thing there, whatever you want to call it.

1644
01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:17.479
And like I said, if you didn't have a crush

1645
01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:20.399
on her, it was Aaron Gray and her her skin

1646
01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:26.720
tight white satin Earth Defense Forest uniform, the lovely ladies

1647
01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:32.600
of buck Rogers. So happy birthday. And I think she also,

1648
01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:37.920
if I remember correctly, was on the Waltons, although most

1649
01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:39.640
of us would know her from Buck Rogers, but I

1650
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:41.960
think she was on the Waltons. She may have been,

1651
01:39:42.079 --> 01:39:46.560
but happy birthday to Pamela Hensley and that, my friends,

1652
01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:50.399
wraps up all of our Star Trek birthday, our sci

1653
01:39:50.439 --> 01:39:55.279
fi birthdays. And now it's time for some Star Trek news.

1654
01:39:56.479 --> 01:40:00.119
If I already one message from Starfleet coming in on secure.

1655
01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:03.239
Check incoming transmission.

1656
01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:11.079
Enter authorization code, command codes verified, Define parameters of program.

1657
01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:12.840
Level nine authorization require.

1658
01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:18.479
That's a fine parameters. Transfer updata is complete. A blank alert,

1659
01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:20.439
A blank alert.

1660
01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:23.640
Okay, it's time for our Star Trek news, and I

1661
01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:26.439
believe Eric is going to start us off this week.

1662
01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:28.840
Yeah, we're going to start out as we often do

1663
01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:31.920
with a Shatner says, what segment, And this one is

1664
01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:35.159
William Shatner's favorite sci fi movie. I think this is

1665
01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.800
kind of a cool article. William Shatner will always, of course,

1666
01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:41.199
be remembered for playing Captain Kirk in Star Trek, but

1667
01:40:41.239 --> 01:40:43.960
his favorite sci fi movie has nothing to do with

1668
01:40:44.039 --> 01:40:47.800
the classic franchise. The Canadian actor was already an accomplished

1669
01:40:47.800 --> 01:40:50.039
performer by the time he landed the starring role in

1670
01:40:50.119 --> 01:40:54.520
CBS's ambitious sci fi program Star Trek, but the series

1671
01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:57.680
would be his lasting legacy. Shatner returns in the Star

1672
01:40:57.720 --> 01:41:00.319
Trek movies and films like Star Trek two The Wrath

1673
01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:03.319
of Kahan have gone on to transcend the franchise to

1674
01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:06.800
become all time classics. However, when asked about his favorite

1675
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:11.640
science fiction film, Shatner's pick was actually quite surprising. William

1676
01:41:11.640 --> 01:41:14.680
Shatner's favorite psci fi films straight from the mouth of

1677
01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:19.159
the man himself, Steven Spielberg's nineteen eighty two classic ET.

1678
01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:23.479
Shatner called E t the Extraterrestrial one of the most

1679
01:41:23.479 --> 01:41:27.840
profound science fiction films because it dealt with childhood fantasy,

1680
01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:32.399
digging deep into its heartfelt message. Shatner isn't alone in

1681
01:41:32.439 --> 01:41:34.560
his love for ET, and there's a reason that the

1682
01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:37.479
movie is timeless. As mentioned, the story is told through

1683
01:41:37.479 --> 01:41:40.600
the eyes of a youngster, which gives every aspect a

1684
01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:45.039
larger than life sense of excitement. Spielberg's direction is also

1685
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.000
key to the movie's success, and few filmmakers use cinema

1686
01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:54.000
to effectively convey emotion like the Oscar Winner. After placing

1687
01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:56.439
ET at the top of his list, William Shatner named

1688
01:41:56.960 --> 01:42:00.319
other great science fiction films that he considers his favorite.

1689
01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:04.640
Among established classics include things like two thousand and one,

1690
01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:08.920
A Space Odyssey, and Alien Shatner actually listed one of

1691
01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:12.279
his own movies, though it's off and overlooked. Star Trek

1692
01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:16.840
the Motion Picture is his favorite Star Trek movie. Considering

1693
01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:19.319
his personal connection to the franchise, it's clear that the

1694
01:42:19.319 --> 01:42:21.960
Motion Picture holds a special place for the screen legend.

1695
01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:27.079
Shatner is fascinated by the existential questions posed by science fiction,

1696
01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:29.840
hence his love for films like two thousand and one.

1697
01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:33.880
The Motion Picture is the most existential Star Trek film

1698
01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:36.760
by far, even if it largely misses the mark and

1699
01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:39.960
its final execution. Who wrote this article? That's it? I

1700
01:42:40.359 --> 01:42:45.600
table flip. I should have just like read ahead and

1701
01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:48.359
not said that last thing. I'm so sorry, Jim, can

1702
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:49.039
you edit that out?

1703
01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:49.439
In post?

1704
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:51.439
Shatner read that, Sat.

1705
01:42:53.079 --> 01:42:57.640
What, But yeah, I mean, who can like, how can

1706
01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:00.319
you go wrong saying? Et is a fantastic movie. It

1707
01:43:00.439 --> 01:43:03.960
was the number one movie, money making movie for like

1708
01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:06.560
I don't even know how long, twenty years or or more,

1709
01:43:07.119 --> 01:43:09.960
for such a long time, and it's just so touching.

1710
01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:13.279
So Shatner says what, But I kind of agree with

1711
01:43:13.359 --> 01:43:16.079
him here. I think that that deserves to be anybody's

1712
01:43:16.079 --> 01:43:16.840
favorite movie.

1713
01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:21.560
Interesting he didn't list Star Trek five five.

1714
01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:28.600
Yeah, that is weird. Well, they must have asked him

1715
01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:30.600
before the movie came out.

1716
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:33.239
You know, he was recently hospitalized, so he may have

1717
01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:39.279
been a little time, a little loopy. There could be

1718
01:43:39.279 --> 01:43:40.760
some fugue going on there.

1719
01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:49.439
You never can tell. Oh and Paul, Paul has our

1720
01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:50.159
next story.

1721
01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:53.159
I'm a great I do and it's very interesting because

1722
01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:57.239
Star Trek Starfleet Academy could be arriving sooner than expected.

1723
01:43:57.359 --> 01:43:57.840
Friends.

1724
01:43:58.439 --> 01:44:01.239
Star Trek Starfleet Academy is the next new Star Trek

1725
01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:05.039
show for Paramount Plus. The first season wrap production way

1726
01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:09.000
back in February and over the summer, Paramount Plus announced

1727
01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:12.560
plans to remove the series in early twenty twenty six.

1728
01:44:13.159 --> 01:44:14.960
One of the most talked about new characters of the

1729
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:19.199
show is Commander Lura falk klingon Jemhdar Hybrid, who is

1730
01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:24.439
Cadet Masters of the Academy and first officer of the

1731
01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:29.239
uss Athena, which is integrated into the Academy. Fulk is

1732
01:44:29.239 --> 01:44:33.520
played by British actress and comedian Gina Yeseshir, and production

1733
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:38.039
on the second season began in August, and Yeshar shared

1734
01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:42.560
a post on Instagram recently praising the team behind the

1735
01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:46.319
camera with the message that the prosthetic department at Star

1736
01:44:46.359 --> 01:44:49.800
Trek are a bunch of geniuses when the costume department

1737
01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:53.479
make my breasts look amazing. That is not anything I'm

1738
01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:55.199
adding here. That's what she thinks.

1739
01:44:55.439 --> 01:44:55.960
That is all.

1740
01:44:56.079 --> 01:44:58.800
Well, okay, there we go. She also signed off her

1741
01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:03.600
message with see you in January twenty twenty six. Production

1742
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:06.840
of the second season began in August. Paramount Plus making

1743
01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:09.399
a big push for Starfleet Academy at New York Comic

1744
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:13.399
Con going on right now, including the Starfleet Academy Interactive

1745
01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:17.800
Experience on the exhibition floor Booth seventeen twenty three if

1746
01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:20.680
you're there, where attendees can step into the role of

1747
01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:23.680
cadet and training and tackle various hands on challenges to

1748
01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:26.199
put their skills to the test. You even get a

1749
01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:29.840
personalized Academy ID badge to track progress, along with exclusive

1750
01:45:29.880 --> 01:45:36.079
Star Trek Starfleet Academy giveaway swag. Now we shouldn't just

1751
01:45:36.119 --> 01:45:42.479
clarify briefly that after Gina Yasher posted that social media

1752
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:46.640
post see You in January twenty twenty six, it did

1753
01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:49.319
get edited to see you in early twenty twenty six,

1754
01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:52.600
So who knows, right, but it's you know, they have

1755
01:45:52.640 --> 01:45:55.319
a big presence at New York Comic Con this weekend,

1756
01:45:55.359 --> 01:45:57.119
so it wouldn't surprise me if we don't end up

1757
01:45:57.159 --> 01:46:03.439
getting an actual specific window real soon. But my guess

1758
01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:05.920
is it's certainly going to be January or February, so

1759
01:46:06.159 --> 01:46:07.760
we're not gonna have too long to wait before we

1760
01:46:07.800 --> 01:46:11.720
get a brand new episode review of some brand new

1761
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:14.720
star Trek. And I don't know if you've been out

1762
01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:18.800
there trexperts and had a little peak yet at the

1763
01:46:21.319 --> 01:46:24.279
uss Athena, because the idea is it's almost like a

1764
01:46:26.199 --> 01:46:29.199
mobile classroom, if you will. It's like a starship classroom

1765
01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:31.960
that they can take around. Pretty badass production design, so

1766
01:46:31.960 --> 01:46:34.600
it looks pretty cool, so definitely check it out. The

1767
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:38.439
marketing engine is clearly snowballing and they building upstein for

1768
01:46:38.479 --> 01:46:41.760
this stuff, and so fingers crossed, we've got some Oscar

1769
01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:44.960
winners joining the cast here, so it should be all

1770
01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:48.640
kinds of good stuff. So that's stay tuned, would be

1771
01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:50.439
where we leave it there, and I'm gonna pass it

1772
01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:51.800
over to Uncle Jim.

1773
01:46:52.439 --> 01:46:59.159
So this character is a klingon Jemhodar female and a

1774
01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:02.279
lot of people are already already being turned off on

1775
01:47:02.359 --> 01:47:06.000
the fact that gem Hidar don't have females because they're

1776
01:47:06.039 --> 01:47:08.600
genetically bred, they're addicted to drugs, blah blah blah blah

1777
01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:12.199
blah blah blah. However, I think people are forgetting how

1778
01:47:12.199 --> 01:47:16.199
far in the future this series is from Deep Space nine,

1779
01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:20.359
which is the last time we saw the gem Hadar well.

1780
01:47:20.239 --> 01:47:23.760
And the gem Hdar are all clones, and so if

1781
01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:26.800
she's got kling on DNA, like, it's not that hard

1782
01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:31.279
to take, you know, Gemhdar DNA and mix it with

1783
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:34.760
female cling on DNA. And I think that's why they're

1784
01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:36.920
calling her a hybrid, because I don't think she was.

1785
01:47:37.600 --> 01:47:41.600
My guess is that she wasn't born because gem Hida

1786
01:47:41.680 --> 01:47:44.399
are also sterile, right, they can't. They don't have like

1787
01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:48.079
babies in the traditional sense. So I'm guessing she's a clone,

1788
01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:50.399
and so it's not surprising to me that they could

1789
01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:53.239
kind of anybody who you know, feels like they're paying

1790
01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:55.560
so much attention to Deep Space nine and like, no,

1791
01:47:55.720 --> 01:47:58.760
just think about it for a minute. It's very possible.

1792
01:47:59.119 --> 01:48:02.079
And I'm really about her backstory. I think she's going

1793
01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:06.319
to make a very interesting story apply to reveal why

1794
01:48:06.399 --> 01:48:08.880
she's like that. That's something I'm in ship didn't see.

1795
01:48:11.439 --> 01:48:13.960
Yeah. Plus we we don't know the effect that Odo

1796
01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:17.720
had when he went back to the Great Link and

1797
01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:23.439
and shared what the Federation is all about. So maybe

1798
01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:25.600
they freed the gem Hidar and in the hundreds and

1799
01:48:25.720 --> 01:48:30.279
hundreds of years since then they became their own people

1800
01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:32.319
instead of you know words.

1801
01:48:32.520 --> 01:48:36.960
There was also the one on one of the DS

1802
01:48:37.079 --> 01:48:41.159
nine episodes where for some reason he wasn't addicted to

1803
01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:44.880
the kept her cell white and they were also there

1804
01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:47.960
were some that were thinking on their own, so it

1805
01:48:48.079 --> 01:48:52.159
was sort of the hint. You know, so who knows?

1806
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.479
It sounds like they were booking away really early.

1807
01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:58.000
Were they clones or were they just like because I

1808
01:48:58.079 --> 01:49:01.720
know the because the uh which McCall, it's the board

1809
01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:03.920
net were clones. But I didn't think the Jim Hittar.

1810
01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:08.600
I think they were just like batches that were born

1811
01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:15.439
in some sort or created in some sort of bizarre nursery.

1812
01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:18.119
I don't know, I forget.

1813
01:49:18.159 --> 01:49:20.920
It'll be interesting. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Now

1814
01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:22.479
we don't have to wait as long as we thought,

1815
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:26.359
which is really cool. All right, So I have the

1816
01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:30.760
next story, which we kind of briefly talked about Brandon

1817
01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:34.039
Braga says Star Trek TV should return to longer seasons

1818
01:49:34.159 --> 01:49:38.680
instead of short tender relationships. No one has written more

1819
01:49:38.760 --> 01:49:41.800
Star Trek than Brandon Braga, who has begun his Hollywood

1820
01:49:41.840 --> 01:49:44.279
career as an intern for Star Trek the Next Generation

1821
01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:47.279
in nineteen ninety and stuck with the franchise for the

1822
01:49:47.359 --> 01:49:50.680
first decade and a half. He is writing credits to

1823
01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:54.119
over one hundred Star Trek episodes and two feature films,

1824
01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:57.239
rose to the showrunner for Star Trek Voyager, and later

1825
01:49:57.359 --> 01:50:01.239
became co producer and showrunner of starf Ar Trek Enterprise.

1826
01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:04.600
The future of Star Trek TV was a hot topic

1827
01:50:04.680 --> 01:50:08.359
after sky Dance took over Paramount. Braga, who has created

1828
01:50:08.359 --> 01:50:12.079
an executive produced several series in the past Star Trek career,

1829
01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:16.520
gave his diagnosis of the Star Trek landscape, and this

1830
01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:20.399
is a quote. I look at the audience and I

1831
01:50:20.479 --> 01:50:23.239
think you're here because you had a long term relationship

1832
01:50:23.319 --> 01:50:27.439
with Voyager. Voyager was twenty six episodes of year. Some

1833
01:50:27.640 --> 01:50:30.279
of you probably keep it on because it's cozy, and

1834
01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:33.520
that's the kind of relationship you had. A lot of

1835
01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:37.800
shows now are tender relationships, eight episodes every two years.

1836
01:50:38.399 --> 01:50:41.000
I don't think so. That's not going to be something

1837
01:50:41.039 --> 01:50:44.159
you necessarily pass on to your kids, and I think

1838
01:50:44.279 --> 01:50:48.319
that's a loss. It's a new paragram, and some shows

1839
01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:51.960
are still doing it. NCIS does like twenty two episodes.

1840
01:50:52.560 --> 01:50:54.439
But I really don't know what's in store for the

1841
01:50:54.520 --> 01:50:59.079
future of Star Trek, the TV franchise anyways, but I hope,

1842
01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:02.720
I hope, hope eventually that they get to longer, more

1843
01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:06.920
sustained seasons. The last Star Trek season with twenty six

1844
01:51:07.039 --> 01:51:10.199
episodes was season two of Enterprise in two thousand and two,

1845
01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:15.199
whose final season had twenty four and twenty two episodes, respectively.

1846
01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:19.439
The CBS All Access Plus era that began in twenty

1847
01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:24.239
seventeen started with thirteen episode seasons, although the first season

1848
01:51:24.279 --> 01:51:28.079
of Discovery was expanded to fifteen episodes and split into

1849
01:51:28.119 --> 01:51:31.640
two parts before settling down to the ten episode seasons,

1850
01:51:32.239 --> 01:51:36.720
usually with over a year between each season. And we

1851
01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:40.319
talked about this a little bit. I see the point

1852
01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:44.000
that he's that he's making. I think a lot of people,

1853
01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:47.399
you know, when you only have ten episodes, well, like,

1854
01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:49.640
let's use Strange New Worlds as an example. We had

1855
01:51:49.720 --> 01:51:54.239
ten episodes and then almost two years between and people forget.

1856
01:51:54.520 --> 01:51:59.039
It's not talked about, it's not you know, on everybody's mind.

1857
01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:02.000
I don't think we're ever going to see twenty six

1858
01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:06.800
episodes again. I think that that's long, that's long gone.

1859
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:11.920
But I do think that the fifteen that we saw

1860
01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:15.560
with Discovery is a good, you know, a good middle ground,

1861
01:52:15.600 --> 01:52:18.119
because if we're going to see Strange New Worlds and

1862
01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:21.680
we're going to see Starfleet Academy, we do fifteen episodes

1863
01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:24.960
of each. That gives us thirty where we used to

1864
01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:28.319
get twenty six of one series back in the day,

1865
01:52:29.159 --> 01:52:31.800
and they have two series running fifteen episodes each. I

1866
01:52:31.880 --> 01:52:34.239
think that would be a happy medium. But I don't

1867
01:52:34.239 --> 01:52:35.960
think we're going to get it. I think they're hooked

1868
01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:39.159
on this ten episode thing and that's all we're gonna get.

1869
01:52:40.039 --> 01:52:42.399
But Paramount wants to get in touch with me. I'm here,

1870
01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:46.000
they know how to reach me. I'm always available if

1871
01:52:46.039 --> 01:52:49.239
they're looking for a consultant. But and I think I

1872
01:52:49.319 --> 01:52:51.640
think some of the filler episodes, I think people remember

1873
01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:57.119
those like Subbrosa, right, people remember the filler episodes a lot.

1874
01:52:57.800 --> 01:52:59.640
You know, the story arcs are great, but I think

1875
01:52:59.720 --> 01:53:03.960
it's like Spock's brain, you know, stuff like that. But

1876
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:09.000
that's just my two cents, so, uh the you get

1877
01:53:09.039 --> 01:53:09.840
to wrap us up.

1878
01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:16.159
About as quickly as I can. Who is the Okay?

1879
01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:20.560
Who is the preschool cartoon? Star Trek Scouts made for

1880
01:53:21.760 --> 01:53:25.279
with very little fanfare, a new Star Trek series beamed

1881
01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:30.319
onto Nickelodeon's Blaze and The Monster Machin's YouTube channel week.

1882
01:53:31.239 --> 01:53:35.359
It's safe to assume that its largest audience didn't care much.

1883
01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:39.199
In fact, they probably haven't even heard of Captain Kirk's

1884
01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:44.279
Stock or the Starship Enterprise. Because Star Trek Scouts is

1885
01:53:44.399 --> 01:53:49.960
aimed squarely at a preschool audience, Unfortunately, it may not

1886
01:53:50.239 --> 01:53:54.079
have been made entirely with them in mind. Scouts moves

1887
01:53:54.119 --> 01:53:57.760
at a breakneck pace, attacking your eyes with a sugar

1888
01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:02.800
rush of primary colored seed and soundtracked by a lot

1889
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of enthusiastic shouting. It's toddler TV by the numbers, seemingly

1890
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designed to make the shortest attention spans even shorter. The

1891
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stories focus on a trio of eight year old space

1892
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cadets humans JD and Rule Rue and Vulcan Shrocket, using

1893
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their aster alarm and asteroid deflector wheel to protect the

1894
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world from threats such as a soap bar asteroid from

1895
01:54:35.600 --> 01:54:39.560
the bathnar Nebula see what they did there? And a

1896
01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:44.720
meat Paul asked, I'm sorry just and a meat pull

1897
01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:52.920
asteroid from the noodle Nebula there's I'm sorry, I don't

1898
01:54:52.960 --> 01:54:56.439
know why that tiggled me so much. There's also a

1899
01:54:56.560 --> 01:55:02.439
cute alien dog called Zips. Bucket has an Inspector gadget

1900
01:55:02.640 --> 01:55:07.640
esque bionic arm, and they recite there Discover, Grow Boldly

1901
01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:12.720
Go mission statement at the end of each episode. No

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surprise is there then, as this is effectively preschool TV

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one oh one. Yet the members are the makers of

1904
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Scouts have thrown in meaningless references to transporters in the

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01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:30.119
Klingon homeworld quonos Why it certainly isn't for the benefit

1906
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of viewers who don't yet know what Star Trek is

1907
01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:37.560
or can go to the bathroom by themselves, and they

1908
01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:41.159
probably wouldn't care if they did. No, the clear aim

1909
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of the show is drawing in parents who love Trek

1910
01:55:45.359 --> 01:55:49.039
and want their kids to love Trek too. Kids growing

1911
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up today have access to more entertainment than any generation

1912
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in history. They sure as hell heck don't need dumped

1913
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down poor written approximations of beloved franchises to show them

1914
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the way.

1915
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This is a very very grumpy article and I don't

1916
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care for it. Ah, So so you know, I'll admit

1917
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I wanted to see what was up. And I don't

1918
01:56:19.359 --> 01:56:21.520
have a preschooler anymore, but I watched a few episodes

1919
01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:23.760
of Star Trek Scouts and I found it to be

1920
01:56:24.039 --> 01:56:27.079
just like any other like preschool television show out there.

1921
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I don't think kids need to know what a Klingon

1922
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is or what chronos is. They're just being introduced to

1923
01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:35.079
these concepts and stuff, and are they trying to get

1924
01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:36.000
them at a younger age?

1925
01:56:36.159 --> 01:56:36.359
Yeah?

1926
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Is there any problem with that? I don't know. I

1927
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don't see one.

1928
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Is this the same thing that Star Wars did right

1929
01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:48.000
a couple of years ago they launched Young Jedi Adventures? Right,

1930
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it's the same thing. Very you know, it's a toddler

1931
01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:53.800
centric thing. I mean, you know, it's one thing to

1932
01:56:54.720 --> 01:56:57.680
you know, it's it's kind of you know, demeaning to

1933
01:56:57.800 --> 01:56:59.920
roll your eyes at something like that, right, because it's

1934
01:57:00.239 --> 01:57:03.159
you know, I mean, show meeting it You're like, oh god,

1935
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I want to watch it.

1936
01:57:05.319 --> 01:57:08.600
Right. I couldn't keep a straight face reading about the

1937
01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:12.520
meatballs and noodles, which now makes me hungry. But anyway,

1938
01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:15.760
but that looks Yeah, I want to see this cute

1939
01:57:15.800 --> 01:57:20.319
alien dog called Zips. So sounds like fun. I'll give

1940
01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:22.039
it a watch if I can find it.

1941
01:57:22.239 --> 01:57:26.600
So, and the episodes are only like four to six

1942
01:57:27.159 --> 01:57:29.680
for four to eight minutes long each, so they're real short,

1943
01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:31.359
so you can just you know, watch them on your

1944
01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:31.880
lunch break.

1945
01:57:32.600 --> 01:57:32.880
Sure.

1946
01:57:34.880 --> 01:57:38.520
Yeah, I watched the one with the meatball Nebula. I

1947
01:57:38.680 --> 01:57:43.680
watched that one. You know, it is what it is, right,

1948
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I mean, if it's yeah, it is what it is.

1949
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I didn't have a problem.

1950
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So many kids shows are not just for the kids,

1951
01:57:53.279 --> 01:57:57.439
I think famously Bugs Bunny the animators later said, we

1952
01:57:57.560 --> 01:57:59.439
never did this for kids. We did this for the

1953
01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:04.159
grown up and their shows out there, like on PBS Arthur.

1954
01:58:04.840 --> 01:58:06.920
I still I had been. I still watch Arthur from

1955
01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:10.439
time to time because it's got some great episodes and

1956
01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:13.319
a lot of the stuff goes right over the kid's head,

1957
01:58:13.439 --> 01:58:16.800
so that's nothing new, So I will I'll definitely give

1958
01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:17.399
this a watch.

1959
01:58:19.359 --> 01:58:21.880
Yeah, you have Kirk, Spock and Burnham right there on

1960
01:58:21.960 --> 01:58:28.560
the screen, you know. So guys, what did you think

1961
01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:31.720
about the The Beyond part of the show. Did you

1962
01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:32.279
guys like it?

1963
01:58:33.079 --> 01:58:33.600
It was something?

1964
01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:35.399
Yeah, I thought.

1965
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I thought your trivia was excellent and nice lately done.

1966
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So I think that's a really nice addition, so we'll

1967
01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:48.800
stick with it then, absolutely, all right, so you guys

1968
01:58:48.800 --> 01:58:49.359
want to tune in.

1969
01:58:49.439 --> 01:58:52.439
Next week for some more trivia. How about the birthdays?

1970
01:58:52.479 --> 01:58:54.800
Do you like throwing in some non Star Trek birthdays?

1971
01:58:55.640 --> 01:58:58.439
Dude, I got Sigourney Weaver. I scored hard, so yeah,

1972
01:58:58.600 --> 01:58:59.079
believe me.

1973
01:58:59.199 --> 01:59:01.600
I like Itavorite part was trying to connect that one

1974
01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:03.119
guy to Star Trek, and there was a way to

1975
01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:04.159
do it well.

1976
01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:08.119
And also, don't forget in Halloween, what was the mask

1977
01:59:08.199 --> 01:59:09.399
that Michael Myers wore?

1978
01:59:15.399 --> 01:59:19.319
Well, originally, Paul, I actually gave you Karen Allen originally,

1979
01:59:19.560 --> 01:59:22.439
and then when Sigourney Weaver's birthday came up, I slid

1980
01:59:22.479 --> 01:59:24.479
that one to Charles and gave you Sigourney because I

1981
01:59:24.520 --> 01:59:25.800
thought you would enjoy her more.

1982
01:59:26.439 --> 01:59:31.600
No, I would enjoy them both, but that's for another show.

1983
01:59:32.079 --> 01:59:39.520
That's a fault rated show, all right, guys, Legendary, Well,

1984
01:59:39.600 --> 01:59:41.000
we'll keep The Beyond going on.

1985
01:59:41.159 --> 01:59:41.319
Then.

1986
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I'm glad it worked out well and everybody liked it

1987
01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:47.640
so well. That wraps up our show. Can you believe it? Wow?

1988
01:59:48.479 --> 01:59:51.800
Another another show bites the dust.

1989
01:59:52.239 --> 01:59:57.760
All right, well, I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, guys,

1990
01:59:58.039 --> 02:00:00.199
and I just want to say to everybody please, uh,

1991
02:00:00.600 --> 02:00:02.439
stay safe and be good to each other.

1992
02:00:02.479 --> 02:00:06.479
Remember sci fi fans are the best fans. Take care

1993
02:00:06.520 --> 02:00:09.720
of yourselves and live long and prosper. Good night, everybody.

1994
02:00:11.319 --> 02:00:13.760
Long and prosper, long and prosper.

1995
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All stations ready for departure, sir, some problem.

1996
02:00:21.800 --> 02:00:24.359
Right, I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way of

1997
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missions will build?

1998
02:00:25.159 --> 02:00:28.960
Said, Oh, no, number left. I'm sure most will be

1999
02:00:29.119 --> 02:00:35.239
much more interesting. Let's see what's out there.

2000
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Gage,