Oct. 4, 2025

Episode 656 Star Trek Khan Audio Drama episode one discussion

Episode 656 Star Trek Khan Audio Drama episode one discussion
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In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond,Uncle Jim and the hosts engage in a lively discussion about the Star Trek universe, focusing on the audio drama 'Star Trek Khan.' They share personal anecdotes, fan shout outs, and delve into the complexities of Khan's character. The conversation highlights the importance of storytelling, community engagement, and the production quality of the audio drama, which serves as a bridge between the original series and the movie. The hosts encourage listeners to explore the themes of leadership and morality while enjoying the immersive experience of the audio drama. In this episode, the hosts delve into various aspects of Star Trek, including character development, moral dilemmas faced by Kirk, and the legacy of Khan. They discuss fan reactions to recent episodes, share birthday remembrances of Star Trek actors, and provide updates on William Shatner's health. The conversation also covers exciting new action figures and Zachary Quinto's potential return as Spock, highlighting the enduring appeal of the franchise.
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Notice Kane and again has gone insane. Logan six Corporal.

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Old Bob Sam World stories that will diston turn Bout, Cimita,

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death of tashi Ya, Flash Gordon, Protest, Don't Prison, Clone Wars,

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James Holden, Tweaky, John conigainst.

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Ikey talk about the series. You can join us up

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about the series.

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Well, good evening, Trekkies and trekkers around the globe. It's Thursday,

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October second, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode six hundred

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and fifty six of Trek Talking. Wow is all I

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can say before I get too far, though, I hope

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you guys tuned in last week and checked out our

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interview with Christine Horn, the awesome badass klingon Bitha. If

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you didn't, head over to trek Talking dot com and

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check it out, because she was a blast and we

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had a lot of fun talking with her. But before

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I go too far, I like to introduce my awesome

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truck spirts and we'll start out with Paul the Toy Guy.

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He's out in Portland. How you doing tonight, Paul.

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Hello, Uncle Jim. I'm doing well, sir. This is a

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magical respite to atic day, and so it's good to

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have a chance to kick back and leave the earth

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atmosphere for a while with you all. So looking forward

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to shooting the breeze here in the deep vacuum of space.

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Yes, we have a lot to shoot and we're going

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to get to that shortly. We also have out in Portland, Eric,

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how you're doing tonight, Eric, I'm.

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Doing pretty good, Jim. And at the risk of sounding

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like a commercial, I'm very excited about the fact that

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in about a week I will be leaving for a

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short vacation in North Bend, Oregon, where I will be

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visiting the Itty Biddy in the hotel, the Itty Biddy

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Hotel that has the Itty Biddy Star Trek theme for him,

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and I've made contact with the owner there. We're going

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to chat with each other. Maybe I'll try and get

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a short interview from him, just talking about his hotel

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there a little bit. I think that might be fun.

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He is already a fan of our podcast. He actually

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contacted me wow weeks ago, and so I'm pretty excited

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to actually meet him in person.

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Is that didn't we do a story that on them?

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Yeah, like two years ago we did a story on them,

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and then we talked about them again, maybe six or

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eight months ago, and he contacted me over Facebook after

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that and said, hey, dude, love your podcast. Let me

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know when you're coming to visit. And so we've chatted.

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He sent me this free T shirt. I can't wait

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to see the joint.

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Eric. I'd like to propose that this is frankly a

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classic setup for like an eighties themed horror slasher movie.

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Right you go, you go to this hotel thinking of, oh,

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it's a wonderful theme for like minded Star Trek fans,

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only to find out that, like you know, you were

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abducted and have to like fight your way out of

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some kind of kling on basement.

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You know.

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So why don't you consider this a screenwriting research trip?

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Right or off? Right?

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And we can think that's a bang that sucker out

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a couple of weeks.

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You know.

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I'll take notes.

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I didn't I didn't know about it when I or

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I wasn't aware of it when we lived in Oregon,

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So I'm kind of.

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That.

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And the enchanted Forest. I wish we had.

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The enchanted forest is amazing. Yeah, it's a joint to

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go to as well.

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Well. If you don't come back, Eric, we'll know where

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to find the body.

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Yep, absolutely, that's a good thing. Anybody.

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Also from Portland, we have our own miracle worker, David.

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How are you doing tonight, David?

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I'm fine and I hope it has a great time.

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People people, Yeah, that's what we are, aren't we.

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We're all pod people and not from Portland. We have

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ever our own Charles. He's out in Las Vegas. I

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love the swinging palm trees. How you doing, Charles? I'm

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doing good.

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Weather's doing fair today, so I jumped down to the

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outside studio because the cold front isn't do until tomorrow.

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Excellent, excellent. And last, but definitely not least, on our

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list is our truck Spurt V and she's out in Virginia.

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How are you doing?

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Right?

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We finally have some dipping into the fifties for our

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early morning temperatures and so it's crisp and cool and

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I feel almost human again.

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Well, you'll feel very human when we start talking about

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Star Trek in a few minutes. So that always that.

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Always, and I'm I just will see how it goes.

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But I did start on dual Lingo with trying to

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learn Klingon.

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So nice, that's awesome.

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That is.

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I can't wait. So next next week, maybe three words.

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Or we'll see.

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Sure, yeah, okay.

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We'll see.

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Well, it's funny that you should mention that v because

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I've been in touch with the dude that runs the

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Klingon Language Institute and he's going to come on the

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podcast and teach us.

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Oh cool.

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I wonder if that's I've probably said this before, but

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I wonder if it's the guy that was at Galaxy

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Con in Richmond this past March's supposed to remember.

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Well, I know it's like doctor so and so such

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and such.

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I wish I could remember. All I know is that

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he was really good and really nice and patient and yeah,

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so we'll see.

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That'll be well. I'm going to see if you can

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teach us all some Klingon. That's going to be a

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fun one.

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Can we learn cling on insults? I mean like like

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like curse word insults, that.

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Your mother was a lizard, you know, your father dies.

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It can be like gret can leave you know, uh,

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make several cutting remarks that will no doubt do lasting damage. Yeah,

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lasting damage to their egos.

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You know, just she mates out of season. Oh boy.

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So anyways, guys, you can head over to Trek Talking

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dot com. You can find all of our shows there,

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including our awesome interview with Christine Horn from last week.

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Why are there? You can go and check out our

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Patreon page and for only two dollars a month, you

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can help keep this podcast alive, so please please do

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that if you can. You can also find us on

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Facebook at Trek Talking and beyond. Please check that out

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as well. And I think I've said enough, it's time

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to dive into tonight's show. So tonight we're going to

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discuss the audio drama Star Trek cod Episode one, Paradise.

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We also have our fans shout outs as usual, where

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we thank fans around the globe just like you there.

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We also have our polls tonight, and obviously our polls

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are going to deal with Kahn and an insurrection possibly hmmm,

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I wonder and what Star trektor what Star trek actor

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do you share a birthday with? Find out on our

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Star trek birthdays and what's going on around the Star

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Treks universe. This week we have a shatner says what

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and we also have to Paul and Ben's sneak peeks

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which we're going to have with our toy guy and

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will there be a Star Trek for You'll have to

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stick around and find out. So, without any further ado,

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head over to our Facebook page Truck Talking It Beyond.

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Look for the livelong and prosper post pinned at the top.

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Tell us where you're listening from. We have lots of dancing,

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funny emojis because that gets my attention. If you see

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a heart next to your name from yours truly, Uncle Jim,

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you want to tune in because you who are going

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to be immortalized in our fans shout outs. So Eric,

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would you like to get us started with our fan

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shout outs this week?

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Would I? Ever?

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We have a ton of support on my list from

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the UK today. First we are given a big shout

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out to Austin Nicholas, who says he is originally from

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the UK but is now in Ukraine and I can

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only guess the many reasons that you may be living

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there right now. Austin hopefully you are staying safe and

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doing the things you need to do to keep you

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in yours safe and or fighting for the good guys.

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So thank you for saying hello to us, and hopefully

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you are enjoying our podcast in your off hours over there.

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Also like to say hello this week to Daniel O'Donovan,

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who's saying hello to us from Wales, another little spot

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on the island just across the pond, thank you for

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supporting our podcast, and another one from Gatwick, England. This

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time we're saying hello to Robert Rayner, originally from the

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same part of North London as Marina Seareds. That's pretty cool.

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I wonder if they have any statues of her there.

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Maybe there's like a Marina Sirtus themed bar or something.

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I don't know. Do us more information, Robert, we need

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to know. And last, but not least, on my list,

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I'm saying hello this week to Petra kata unti kata unti.

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Maybe I have pronounced that correctly. I tried to give

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it a little German flair, because you, Petra, hail from

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Germany and you're sending us that nice, livelong and prosper emoji,

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which I'm positive is what got Jim's attention. Charles, who

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would you like to say hello to.

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Let's start off with a warm welcome to Stone Reed

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Marshall from Wichita Falls, Texas and gives us a Vulcan salute.

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Welcome to James C. Hamilton from Bowling Green, Kentucky. Welcome James.

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Welcome from Cleveland. Mike sub yeah, substancely welcome Mike, and

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from northwestern Pennsylvania. Welcome Becky Tree. Welcome Becky. I wonder

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who's on theed's list.

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Well, first, I have James Oliver who says he resides

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in Dagoba. That's the soggy area south of Georgia. Well,

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if you have odd little creatures that talk backwards to you,

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then that's uh, maybe you really are in Dagoba. Next

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Terry Marvin who says I live in Dallas, Texas, USA.

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Then Frank Oatley from Isla, Morada in the Florida Keys.

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And then ooh, I have a top fan that is

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Jerry Lee from San Antonio, Texas. Thank you all for

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being our fans. All right, onto you, Paul, Thank.

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You Vere, you appreciate that friend. First of all, let's

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get back over to the European neck of the woods

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and say hello to our pal, Arena Dr Kanska, a

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Star Trek fan from Slovakia who lets us know that

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her TV hero is none other than Jean Luke Picard himself.

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That is a great hero to have, somebody with a

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strong moral compass, Katerina, So thanks for checking in with

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us from all the way over there in beautiful Slovakia.

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So great to know that you're out there. Just a

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little bit further down the road in Boutrope, Germany, we

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have Achim fibat Is saying hello to us. We've got

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fans all over that neck of the woods there, including

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our pal, a net Froland from Grenia, Denmark. A net Froland,

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thank you for checking in and letting us know that

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there is strong Star Trek enthusiasm in your part of

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the world. And then let's go over to a country

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that I'm very fond it and Provincia de Udini Sandro Ferdgo,

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Sandro Ferigo. I'm excited to know that you are out

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there and that there is even perhaps now a Star

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Trek rerun playing with dubbed Talian voices. It just does

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wonders for me. Knowing that that is happening as we speak,

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so wonderful stuff. Not that it's not originally recorded in Italian.

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I mean, I'm sure that was something that they tried

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to do whenever they could, but still I don't know.

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I need to find one of those on YouTube and

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just savor the language.

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I think it would be phenomenal.

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So Sandra, thanks for saying hi, and to all of

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our friends on Europe and every other continent, Live along

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and prosper. Thankle Jim who you got.

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Well, I got to say, Paul, you haven't heard it

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till you've heard it in its original klingon it, So

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I'll just drop that there, all right. So we want

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to say hello and thank you to Mary kay Owens

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wraps up our fan shout outs. And there's Paul again

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with some dude who's got the lobes for business. And

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it's time for our Star Trek polls. And you know

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what that means, don't you. That means this.

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Lin linol you know me like no win what you

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thought about the show? Then we try to share your

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opinions with all of our minions out there because they

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listen worldwide. So tell us just what you think.

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Get together we will all drink canar and robulin an.

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All right, that was the awesome, awesome, awesome polling song

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by our very own Eric. Excellent song, by the way,

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and Paul, Paul that David, you want to roll the tape,

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although it's not technically a tape this time. But you

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know what we're talking about.

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Well, I mean, Jim is never technically a tape.

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True, God, you go walk with me.

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I had forgotten your gift for oratory.

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Seventy three lives, that's all that's left. Now you must

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make a choice. I cannot allow a serpent to roam

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free in Eden. You will swear now to remain faithful

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to me, or you will leave and build whatever petty

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fight them you can far from here. But if you do,

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you will be barred forever from this place. And if

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you stay, you will never challenge my authority again.

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I'll require a team to survey those cliffs and determine

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the best way to collect the granite for your coliseum.

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Choose any five you think best fit to the task.

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It will be done, all right.

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So there's a clip from the con Star Trek audio drama,

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which you can find currently on YouTube. Unfortunately, I didn't

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get any fan votes or reactions on any of the polls,

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and I didn't get any fan voting on the auto drama,

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so I don't know if people aren't listening, I don't know.

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So in this particular case, we'll just have to talk

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about it ourselves. So, Eric, what is the question?

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Well, the first question here, based on that clip is

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do you agree with Khan's decision to spare the life

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of Hugo after trying to start and insurrection. And we'll

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talk more about that when we talk about the episode

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and what the context of that question is. But it

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is an interesting decision without going too far into it

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because I want to hold my thoughts really for the review,

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but generally speaking, I agree with his decision.

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Yeah, Okay, how about you, Paul, did kind make the

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right choice?

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Yeah? I kind of feel like I want to talk

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more about it after we've talked about the episode. I

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feel like we're going in a kind of circuitous order

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here because I don't want to jump ahead of ourselves

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and we haven't really talked about it yet. Let's just

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say it's a bold leadership decision that might go against what.

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Left confident individuals.

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Might choose to do. So Yeah, and from I think

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it's the right Anything that makes for more interesting drama

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is the right decision. From writing this, so yeah, I

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would agree. I would agree with his decision because it's

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more interesting.

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How about you, David should he stay or should he go? Now?

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I think it would be interesting if he actually did stay,

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because I mean, there's seventy three people on that play, right,

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so where are they all going to go? I mean, ah,

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I think it was the right decision, but I think

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we can talk about it more about it when we

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get into the topic.

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How about you, Charles, It was a bold decision for

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a leader.

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It was a strong message for him that he's willing

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to trust people even when they challenge his authority.

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All right, how about you?

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V Oh, yes, I agree. So he made the decision

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to let Hugh stay instead of Hugh go.

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What he did there.

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Just weird.

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Yeah, you go is much better. I think it makes

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con look weak by letting him stay. I think he

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needs to demonstrate his strength and he should have off them.

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But we'll talk more about that later, all right, And

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we don't have any fan reactions, so we'll move on

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to the to the next one. David roll the audio.

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I take it you've had fertility issues, augment females were

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not permitted to procreate.

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The eggs we were born with were harvested in infancy.

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Why would they do that?

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Control?

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Only our creators could decide when while augments would be

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born and with what characteristics?

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Did they do the same with the males new during

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the males would have been impractical. They required a constant

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supply of fresh game meats to continue their experiments. Once

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we were free, many Augments, including Kahn, took any number

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of human females to their beds. Our line will be diluted,

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but never truly extinguished on your home world. But all

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of the younglings here save you our team, are full blood.

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I had no idea. I am deeply sorry for their actions.

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I wish you could understand how much has changed since

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you have created. Humanity has evolved in the last two

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hundred years. The practices that created you have long.

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Been banned by law within the Federation, only because you

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feared what we became, not because anyone ever acknowledged the

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moral and ethical depravity of our creators. You don't know that,

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perhaps not, But I know she's here for one reason only.

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But I beg your pardon.

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You think Con allowed you to join us because he

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cares for you. His passions come and go as quickly

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as any man I've ever known. He brought you here

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because if I fail to reverse the damage to our

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reproductive systems, there will still at least be one fertile

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woman on this planet.

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He would never That's enough.

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No, why right?

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Eric?

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So what what is the poll question?

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The pole question is would Con have used Marla as

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a breeder if Ursula couldn't reverse the genetic damage done

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to female augments? And I think we find out in

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this episode that that answer is yes. We hear it

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from Conn himself.

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Absolutely. So what do you think, Paul, you think you

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think that Con was onto something here?

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I don't get how it's a question, because we know

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it's it's it's it's it's we're not signing with.

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One the minions or the not. It's a fact in the.

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Episode, right, did he actually say?

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Did he actually say that in the episode? Did he

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actually say? Because I don't recall him saying that implied, I.

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Mean, you know, I mean it's yeah, I'm yeah, I'm sorry.

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I'm scrambled because we haven't talked about the episode four.

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So it's just.

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We'll show if you guys want to, we'll just go

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back and unrearrange it. I mean, I apologize but for

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my imperfections here. But all right, let's move on to

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the trivia then all right? Or do we want to

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talk about the episode and then do the trivia? What

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do you guys want to do here? Please tell me?

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I think we ought to do this show first and

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then tripa.

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Okay, Okay, let's do the show first then okay, all right,

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So give us a give us a quick rundown on

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the on the episode, Paul, and then we'll talk about it.

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Okay. Yeah, this for context to get us rolling, I

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think it might be helpful. So what we're talking about

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here is not a television series, but podcast series going

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back to the old days of radio drama, if you will.

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A nine episode series is called Star Trek com and

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tonight we're focusing on the very first episode called Paradise, okay,

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and the whole idea of this series is bridging the

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time period between the events of the original series episode

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Space and the subsequent Wrath of KHN movie. So this

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is a podcast of you know, roughly about thirty minute

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episodes per one of these ones that goes through and

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talks about CON's early days on SETI Alpha five. Kristin

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Bayer is the main writer on this. She's done a

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ton of Star Trek over on Paramount, plus she's written

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for a Strange world card short tracks, Discovery, you name it.

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Along with David Mack.

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But this is originally based on a story by Nicholas Meyer,

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who we were lucky enough to have on this show,

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the tremendous writer director who you know penned and directed

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Wrath of Khan, and he originally conceived this as a

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three episode TV mini series was originally his plan, and

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it eventually got transformed into this podcast series because, as

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you know, in Hollywood, development can get crazy and there's

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a lot of cooks in the kitchen and whatnot. But

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it would be very expensive to do a three episode

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mini series in like these planetary environments like they would

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have been describing here, so they decided to go and

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do it this way, and so they adapted and expanded

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his original three episode scripts into these longer thirty to

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forty minute episodes for the audio format. So that's basically

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the background of it. Really amazing cast that we have here,

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starring Naveen Andrews from Lost to the English Patient as

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Condoy and sing if anyone's watches The Apple Show for

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all Mankind, excellent historical sci fi show. Ren Schmidt from

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that series is just terrific in here as Marlon mcguivers.

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And then we've got a lot of really great cameos

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and small roles from vintage Trek legends, such as Tim Russ,

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who's been on the show as Ensign two Vac because

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this is from back in the day when we know

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that ens and two Vaks served aboard the Excelsior, with

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also appearing in this series George ta Kay's captain of Garazulu.

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So pretty amazing because that's been something we learned back

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in Voyager. I think it was the episode Flashback where

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we learned about that. So pretty great background, excellent elements here,

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and just basically the framing device on this is really

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quite clever, I think, and it's a really great way

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if you're running into things writing for Star Trek and

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you're concerned about breaking Cannon, because I know people are

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always worshiping at the altar of Cannon, right, And so

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the story is bookended by a present day framing device

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present day in you know, Star trek Land, where this

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doctor Rosalind Lear, she's a historian and she is looking

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for permission to recover the rest of the logs from

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SETI Alpha five, and she's able to convince now Captain

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Sulu to take her there aboard the Excelsior. Right, So

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it's a really great framing device. If you're ever running

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into Cannon, you can just say, we ran into these

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logs the contradict the history we thought we knew. So

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it's actually pretty clever thing. And so as we dive

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into talking about this first episode, the bulk of this

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consists of Marla mcgriver's audio logus, which begin relatively shortly

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after Kirk had marooned Conn and his followers on SETI

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Alpha Vive in the original series. So they're finding the

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planet to be a very lush, hospitable place, but also

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full of many other dangers that we're going to get

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into there in subsequent episodes. The subplot that we were

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getting into the most on this episode involves the female

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augments infertility and brewing poo against CON's leadership from this

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follower named Hugo. All right, and the episode ends where

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Marlo has found out about all this, you know, ulterior

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motive of her presence there for Hahn and her independence,

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and she tries to contact Kirk and the enterprise of

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the Communicator that she's kept on her you know, hidden away,

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and she's discovered by Cohn and he destroys the communicator,

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taking away her freedom. And then there is what seems

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to be implied to be a meteor shower that may

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be an indication of approaching disaster soon to come from

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another planet in the Seti Alpha system, but we will

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find out about not in subsequent episodes. That's not covered

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in this first episode. So I think that's a pretty

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you know, happy setup in terms of just a premise

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and the overall content after this show. Does that serve

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our needs? There? Friends? What do you think? Yeah?

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Pretty yep? Covers it? Yep? Is it pretty good? People

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should know? What do you guys want to do?

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Now?

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You want to talk about the episode? Do some trivia?

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Skip some trivia? What do you want to do?

477
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.519
Let's do the trivia and then we'll get into talking

478
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:56.440
about the episode.

479
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.839
Okay, good idea. So let's do some of you here.

480
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.759
And you know what that music means. It's once again

481
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.240
time to put on your thinking caps and join us

482
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:14.359
for Star Trek trivia time with Uncle Jim Okav.

483
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:20.079
You're ready, are on the hot seat first? So who

484
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.359
transports his story in doctor Rosalen Leir to Citi Alpha

485
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:30.279
five to look for Marla's missing law Captainlu, Captain Sulu,

486
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:35.880
that's absolutely right, Charles. What crew member beams down to

487
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.519
the surface with doctor Lear.

488
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.240
That would be a very young and send.

489
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:46.000
Box.

490
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.079
I wonder if he had if he had the tea

491
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:56.960
when he went down there. All right, Paul, what was

492
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.640
done to all the female augments as.

493
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:01.960
We heard in that clip, It sounds like they were

494
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.359
all they were all sterilized. They all had their eggs move,

495
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.599
which is just awful. It sounds like something that would

496
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.519
have been perpetrated. And Joseph Mengel's domain.

497
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:18.920
Yeah, and Eric, what nefarious purpose did Kahn have in

498
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:20.799
mind for Marla mcgivers.

499
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.079
Well, she was the backup plan in case they couldn't

500
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.839
fix the breeding of the female augments, and then she would,

501
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.880
I guess, populate the planet. It seems like a lot

502
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:34.519
for one woman.

503
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.519
But she's a strong woman, strapping, strong woman.

504
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.039
Doesn't seem like much of a life.

505
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.960
No, definitely not. Probably a good thing that the eels

506
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:46.559
got into.

507
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.480
Her ear, so huh.

508
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:50.720
As we think it was the eels, we don't know yet.

509
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:58.960
And David, why are Kahn's followers younger than him.

510
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:04.119
They have created lash I mean so uh.

511
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:06.640
So.

512
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.640
In the episode, it says that before they left Earth,

513
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.440
he took he took them and he rated a colony

514
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.759
where they had young wings that they were going to destroy,

515
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.759
and he went and rescued them all. And those were

516
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:22.279
the children that they rescued.

517
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.400
So he rescued the younglings from Anakin.

518
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:32.920
From exactly.

519
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:45.279
Exactly than why not?

520
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:50.599
You never know? I mean, there could have been there

521
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:52.799
could have been a lightsaber in the in the debris

522
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:57.480
note mhm so v what device did Marlas smuggle to

523
00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:58.119
the surface?

524
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:05.160
Talked about communicator that Con then destroys.

525
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.519
He wasn't a happy camper, that's for sure.

526
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:10.279
A bit of an anger.

527
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.359
Yeah, he does, he does, for sure. Who records the

528
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:19.640
log tapes after Marla dies?

529
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:26.039
Well, when they went down to the planet and discovered

530
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.359
the jam tape, which is probably the last one ever recorded,

531
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:36.039
Tuvox three powered it and found Con speaking. Yes, he

532
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.440
took over the tapes after she passed.

533
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:44.759
And Paul who voices Con in the radio drama, that

534
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:45.200
would be.

535
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.119
The fantastic Navine Andrews, who a lot of folks would

536
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.799
recall from the television series lost, but it was always

537
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.079
quite memorable in an early role in the English Patient.

538
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:57.640
But it does a really good job here.

539
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.759
And what does Con want to build on the peninsula

540
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:04.440
that he puts Ugo in charge of.

541
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:10.279
Ooh, he wants to build what all meglomaniac want to

542
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:11.319
build a colisseum?

543
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:21.519
That's right. And lastly, David who wrote the original con

544
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:25.640
SETI Alpha viv teleplay, we had him right here on.

545
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.720
The Podcash Nicholas Myers.

546
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:33.079
Nicholas Meyer. That's right. So that wraps up our our trivia.

547
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:37.359
The truck Spurts did fabulous as usual, And who wants

548
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:42.200
to dive into the con audio play first? V would

549
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:42.640
you like to go?

550
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:47.960
Yeah? It's first off, taking me back all those years

551
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:51.640
too when they did the Star Wars over the radio

552
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.480
and I recorded them on you know the it live

553
00:33:54.599 --> 00:34:00.000
or is it memorys? So this was really good. It's

554
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.000
because you don't have anything to you know, to watch,

555
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.559
so you have to create all these scenes and all

556
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:13.000
these people and everything in your mind. So that's something

557
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.880
that's unique. Great voices, I mean Con, I think they

558
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:21.079
picked the perfect actor to voice him, but the whole

559
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:27.119
thing with the female augments and the harvesting the eggs. Oh,

560
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:31.400
that just still gives me the he begbis because it's

561
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.440
kind of a I mean, men, you know, taking over

562
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:38.800
women's bodies. That's kind of you know, rather close to home,

563
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.440
shall we say. And so it was very chilling and

564
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.360
very what's that? What's that show with the women with

565
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:48.679
the white hats and the red capes?

566
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.480
What is that called? Yeah?

567
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:56.679
So very Handmaid's Tail esque. But as I was, we

568
00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:01.199
were chatting before the show, the whole thing with history

569
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.000
being written by the victors. And of course, you know,

570
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.119
I might have mentioned a time or two that I'm

571
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:11.239
in a history field, but I don't mention as much

572
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:16.280
as somebody mentions a certain Star Trek movie. But anyway,

573
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:18.920
but that's true, you know, And it's the point of

574
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.119
view from who's recording it or who's writing it. And

575
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.360
then when you have somebody that's trying to do it

576
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:30.639
from an objective point of view, do they have you know,

577
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.480
will their bias, whether it be conscious or unconscious, will

578
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:38.920
it somehow sneak into the narrative. So basically, I don't

579
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.679
know if is there ever any history that's like right

580
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.360
down the middle is exactly how it happened, and there's

581
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:51.440
nobody bending it towards their view. So I guess we

582
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:58.480
will see when we continue listening to this program.

583
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:02.159
Yeah, I thought that, uh, when I was listening to

584
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.280
it Con sometimes he sounded.

585
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:05.719
Just like Ricardo.

586
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:10.079
I could hear the inflections, certain phrases, certain the way

587
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:14.159
he said things, the inflection in his voice. I swear

588
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.480
I was listening to Ricardo at certain points in it.

589
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:18.599
He did a phenomenal.

590
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:21.920
That's what I thought, too. And because I know that

591
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.960
that Ricardo Montalban when he was getting ready to portray

592
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.679
Khn in the movie, It's been so long since he'd

593
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.159
done the uh, you know, space Seed, so he got

594
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.239
a copy of it and he just watched it over

595
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.199
and over and over again. So I wonder if this

596
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.119
gentleman who voiced him, if he, you know, did the

597
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:48.480
same thing listening to Ricardo speak the lines of CON

598
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.639
because he really I can't. I can't imagine that that

599
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:53.480
was just purely coincidental.

600
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:59.199
No, he was way too good to just do it

601
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.480
by accident. I also, I thought it was great that

602
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:08.239
we finally in the Ratha Con when Joaquin dies, he's like,

603
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:10.559
you will be avenged, and he takes it so personally,

604
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.280
but yet we don't really know why because he didn't

605
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.960
care when any of the other augments died in the explosion.

606
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:21.119
But in this audio drama, we find out who he

607
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.199
is and why he cares so much. And I thought

608
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:28.400
that was a great twist to throw in there, which

609
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.039
I won't spoil for any of our listeners, but I

610
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:36.360
thought that was really awesome. And unfortunately, though, guys, nobody

611
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.559
responded to our poll as to what the fans thought

612
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:43.079
about this, so we don't have any fan reactions. We're

613
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.039
just going to have to rely on our reaction. But

614
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.079
I thought it was really great here and Sully at

615
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:52.280
the beginning was awesome, Tuvac at the beginning was awesome,

616
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.239
and it just immediately pulled you right in. And I'm

617
00:37:56.239 --> 00:38:00.239
looking forward to listening to episode two. I've really, really

618
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.679
I listened to it twice. I really liked it, and

619
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:04.760
I think that if you haven't listened to it yet,

620
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:06.079
what are you wait for?

621
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:06.440
Man?

622
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:11.559
Go check it out. Really And I think I might

623
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.880
be wrong, but I think I think I heard someone

624
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:18.719
in the background say share your pain. I'm not positive,

625
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.800
but I think I heard that in the background in

626
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.639
the audio somewhere, so you know, there might be a

627
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.400
special visitor on SETI Alpha five that were not aware

628
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:29.960
of off the week to find out.

629
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.519
That may have been the eel in your ear talking

630
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.440
to you.

631
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:41.719
Watch future episodes and see. But yeah, I I thoroughly, thoroughly,

632
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:45.000
thoroughly enjoyed it. I think it was excellently done. I

633
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.639
thought the voice actors were outstanding. I thought the story

634
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.079
was moved right along at a really really good pace.

635
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.800
The sound effects were spot on, and I thought Marla

636
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.159
Marla was a great character as well. So Paul, what

637
00:38:58.239 --> 00:38:58.760
do you think?

638
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.519
Oh, gosh, because echo what you said. I thought it

639
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.840
was great. I was really taken by the high quality

640
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.639
of the production values on the show, right, I mean,

641
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:11.400
I think, right you were saying the opening scene, it's

642
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:14.079
basically like a big hearing room, right, and you're you

643
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.000
feel like you're you know, at a big star base

644
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.599
or what have you, Right, And this h this this

645
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.760
doctor is this his story and is trying to plead

646
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.599
her case, and it almost feels like they're having a

647
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:28.079
hearing or a trial or something you know, very important.

648
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:29.960
And then before you know it, you know, here comes

649
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:31.920
George de Kay and her defense and you're like, Wow,

650
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.360
it's really George Kay, this is great, and the sound

651
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.079
effects and just the vibe of everything. It really felt

652
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:44.000
like Star Trek, right, it really really did. And you

653
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.480
know this, you know, people may not be used to

654
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.679
watching a lot of radio podcasts these days because it's television, television, television, right,

655
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.000
but I feel like this I can go a long

656
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:57.000
way to bringing back the format, right, especially because the

657
00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:59.639
cast is just sensational here. I mean, they do a

658
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:03.119
really good job. Like you were saying about Navid Andrews,

659
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:08.360
who plays It's not like an impersonation, right, It's not

660
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.519
like he is you know, you know I am going

661
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.280
to be like, he's not doing this weird, you know,

662
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:18.639
awkward thing. He's clearly got a very strong London accent.

663
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.320
Navide Andrews does a very strong English accident, but it's

664
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.800
tempered and it just fits so well. I mean you

665
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.760
really believe it. And he just the way he relates

666
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.760
to Marlon mcguvers, the way he you know, has this

667
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:38.199
combination of like braggadaccio and confidence yet you know, kind

668
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:41.760
of temper hidden below, just below the surface. It just

669
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.440
reminds you so much of the performances we've seen from

670
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.039
Ricardo montalban So I just thought it was great, really

671
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.480
excited to listen to more of it. I hope this

672
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.199
is a It's a great opportunity though, to do something

673
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.360
on a much more ma just budget than a television show,

674
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.039
and to sort of explore different areas of the strand

675
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.639
Trik universe, right, and expand the franchise in an interesting

676
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.599
new way. People love audiobooks, right, so this should be

677
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.400
a terrific thing. But I would just you know, echo

678
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:16.679
what you said to our you know, listeners if you

679
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.000
have not checked this out yet. This is really great

680
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.880
timing because they're releasing these one episode a week for

681
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.920
a while into November, so you know, it's just a

682
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:27.800
couple of them mouths so far. It's a great time

683
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.159
to get in on the ground floor and check it out.

684
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.039
It's on YouTube. It's free, right, I mean, so anybody

685
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:36.599
can partake of this. You don't need to subscribe to anything.

686
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.400
And and again just I just think the quality level

687
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.079
is just absolutely top tier. Absolutely. I thought it was wonderful.

688
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.480
I was grading it. I would give it a ten

689
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.880
frankly just for creativity, a good writing, smart storytelling that

690
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.519
was actually willing to like, dive in deeper into the

691
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:58.920
mythos of those characters and give us more than we expected.

692
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.480
I think this is what happened. It is when you

693
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:06.079
get Nicholas Meyer involved, right, He's such a talented guy

694
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.559
and such a good writer. So they had all this rich,

695
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:12.360
fertile ground. Maybe fertile is the wrong phrase to use,

696
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:13.239
but uh.

697
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:16.440
There you go.

698
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:22.199
But they had this rich, rich vein of or to

699
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.440
mind from right, and so we do a lot more

700
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.079
than we ever would have expected. And it's just, you know,

701
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.440
in good taste, and it's exciting and I'm excited to

702
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:31.960
see where they go with it. Right, It's like the

703
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.800
secret history of SETI Alpha five that we never knew.

704
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.519
So I think any Star Trek fan who likes Rathakan,

705
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:40.840
you don't want to miss out on this. This is

706
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:41.599
great stuff.

707
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:46.159
And I believe, if I remember my notes when I

708
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:51.159
read correctly, that they brought in David Mack to flesh

709
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.519
flesh it out into the full nine because Nicholas only

710
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:57.559
did three three episodes, I believe, and they made this

711
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:02.679
into nine, so they hired David Mack to flesh it out.

712
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:05.039
And I was a Christian buyer.

713
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.760
Well, well, I think what happened was there was an

714
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:11.559
original story that was written by our good director and

715
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.039
then that was actually not adapted into the radio play,

716
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.199
but the concepts from that were taken by Kristen Bayer

717
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.400
and David Mack and actually they wrote all of the

718
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:21.480
episodes for this thing.

719
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:22.800
Concept.

720
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:32.400
Yeah, tonight, it's there in Virginia to night look out.

721
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:34.400
That.

722
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.800
Let's just go with that. Yeah.

723
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:41.800
A lot of times we get all fired up during

724
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:43.320
the day and then we get on the podcast and

725
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:48.800
we just like, can't ourselves anymore. Everyone blows a gas.

726
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:50.280
I love it.

727
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.320
Yeah. We have to also remember that this is a

728
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.119
version of Con that we haven't really seen, which I

729
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.719
think also as a as a dynamic that that fans

730
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.800
have to give it a chance to and stop with

731
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.400
his canon canon cannon crap because we don't know, I mean,

732
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.360
we don't know what we know what crazy Con is

733
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:12.079
like in the Wrath of Khan, but you know what

734
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.760
led him there, what brought him to the brink, what

735
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.480
did he go through to end up being the Con

736
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.239
that we see on the Reliant And this is telling

737
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.599
that story. So you know, I got to echo Paul,

738
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.239
if you guys aren't checking this out. I know by

739
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:27.920
the way. I wanted to post the links on our

740
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.679
Facebook page to give our listeners a chance to just

741
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.480
click the link, listen to it, and easily answer our polls.

742
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:36.800
But guess what they're geo lot And when I try

743
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:38.840
to share it on our Facebook page and you click

744
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.800
on the link, it won't play. You physically have to

745
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:47.159
go to YouTube and click it there. So you know,

746
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:49.800
to click on the links that I post, it will

747
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.519
take you to YouTube, but it won't play. You have

748
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:54.800
to physically go to YouTube and click it. So I

749
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.000
apologize for that. I tried it a couple of times.

750
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:01.920
I don't know what they did to when they encoded it,

751
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:05.119
but you have to go to YouTube to watch it, unfortunately,

752
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.719
because I want to make it as easy as possible

753
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.599
for you guys, and I couldn't do it, So I

754
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:11.559
apologize for that.

755
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.119
Does the does a podcast have its own like Facebook

756
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.840
page that would maybe contain a link that we could

757
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:19.400
forward their post?

758
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:22.119
It might I didn't.

759
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.480
We could share their post. We could share their post.

760
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:25.400
Is what I mean. I think that's what I was

761
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:25.960
trying to get out.

762
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:27.920
But I can maybe that would work.

763
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.440
I can check into that light and see if we

764
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:31.960
can make that happen because I want you.

765
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.239
Because I must want people to discover the show, right,

766
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:38.320
I mean it's it's it's really and I really hope

767
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.480
they do because it's just it's a kind of a

768
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.039
you know, the potential for this to go into other

769
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:47.239
uncharted places, you know, for Star Trek, this is great and.

770
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.599
It's it's excellent too, David, what about you? Yeah, it'd

771
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:53.239
be pretty quiet.

772
00:45:54.880 --> 00:46:00.119
I was just waiting, but yeah, I I really I

773
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.119
really enjoyed the series. And I actually have to echo

774
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:07.159
on what Paul said too, like if they can continue

775
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:11.519
this with other shoes, I would totally listen to a

776
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:16.760
clean on podcast or even like you know, all the

777
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:19.480
other aliens that are out there. So it'd be kind

778
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.840
of interesting to kind of like combine the different backstories

779
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.960
that we've seen in the TV series to just like

780
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:27.920
say like, oh, this character came into this somehow and

781
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:29.719
this is how it happened. So you get to listen

782
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.800
to it and it's free. If they continue doing it

783
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:34.760
for free, you know, you just got to go to

784
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:38.639
YouTube and hopefully people will start subscribing and get more followers.

785
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.880
That way, you know, you can get people to get

786
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:44.719
them to produce more of the content. In that way,

787
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:51.480
we could just yeah, grow the franchise out with the audiobooks.

788
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:54.559
So I think it'd be really interesting to come up

789
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:58.280
with different types of characters and stuff. But this particular one,

790
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.679
for con, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was

791
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:04.480
caught k notch and I would have to give it

792
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:08.840
a ten. So I really enjoyed it.

793
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:07.480
It was.

794
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:09.519
Really good.

795
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.719
I even liked a different sound effect because, as you

796
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:14.400
guys know, I do have a little bit of a

797
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:18.199
hard hearing, and just even having that little footstep coming through,

798
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:21.039
you get to imagine like what is actually going on

799
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.440
in that audiobook. So it's just like it's pretty fun

800
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:29.800
to listen and just enjoy Star Trek coming Back. So yeah,

801
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:30.599
i'd give it a ten.

802
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.760
And something I forgot to mention that David just jogged

803
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:40.639
my feeble old mind. You know people that are saying,

804
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:45.159
you know, it's not Cannon, it's not real Star Trek, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Well,

805
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.320
first of all, go jump off a bridge. But there's

806
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.880
a very important, very important fact you have to remember here.

807
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:56.639
Paramount passed these guidelines for fan films. One of their

808
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:03.519
guidelines is that you cannot use actors or official actors,

809
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.440
like you can't have George Bi Sulu. You can't have

810
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:11.719
Tim b Tubac in a fan production. They don't allow it.

811
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.239
You can use the character of Sulu or Tuvak, but

812
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.599
it has to be by Joe Blow from Idaho. You

813
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:20.639
can't use the actors. Well, guess what, guys, in this

814
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:25.719
particular audio podcast, George is doing Sulu and Tim is

815
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.400
doing Tuvaka. Therefore it's official. So for those people that

816
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.000
are tearing it down saying it's it's not canon and

817
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:38.599
it's not official, no, it absolutely is. So I just

818
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:41.199
wanted to throw that out there for you guys. How

819
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:42.079
about you, Charles.

820
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:48.119
Okay, so I hit my notes one thing for this one.

821
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.960
You're trying to find it. You can find on YouTube. Yes,

822
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:56.000
you can find it on Apple podcast, Apple podcasts, you

823
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.400
can find it on Audible. Some of the other ones

824
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:04.159
are sure has it on their list. And I was

825
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.960
expecting a pay to work to listen to this series,

826
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.119
and I was floor when I got episode one. It's

827
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:15.679
like it's three, It's it's free. It does have commercials

828
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:19.079
in it, but I don't mind a few commercials to

829
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:23.679
have a fabulous fabulous series like this put together with

830
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:25.840
commercials that I can get to sit there and listen to.

831
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:31.840
People are wondering, well, when it is coming out? This

832
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:37.239
is coming out you? I think us times every Monday.

833
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.079
Every Monday there's a.

834
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:43.039
Brand new episode. I get a Pacific time at six

835
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.559
in the morning. It's already there, ready to go. Like

836
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.039
the first episode, I got to listen to the day

837
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:53.719
it released. I haven't listened to episode four yet, but

838
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:56.079
I do plan on listening to that soon to hear

839
00:49:56.119 --> 00:50:02.480
what happens with that. But go back, okay, be mentioned

840
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:09.639
the Star Wars, the Star Wars radio broadcast. I remember

841
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.079
back when the BBC did the Hitchhiker's Guide to the

842
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:18.360
Galaxy radio broadcast, and that was that got me hooked

843
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:25.679
in the books. Back when CBS radiodused to do their lives,

844
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:26.960
their radio theater.

845
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:29.039
And then their occasions.

846
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.079
For me, I jumped in and a kave look for

847
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:37.639
podcast of role playing and that's the same concept. That's

848
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.599
these characters are sitting there running a story and I'm

849
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.760
watching it in my head as I'm listening to them

850
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:50.079
do this story. So I love audio dramas. Now, one

851
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:53.079
of the questions that Paul said, oh, this sounds a

852
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:56.280
little like a court case. I say to me, it

853
00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:00.119
was a court case. She was on trial to to

854
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:05.760
can she do her research? And then Sulo came along

855
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:10.000
and said, well, what are you doing with this stuff?

856
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:14.880
And they pose a question and I think it's going

857
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.039
to be down the line and gets answered. But I'm

858
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:22.360
curious about the answer this question. Did Kirk purposely put

859
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:27.840
them on a planet that was threatened? That's the question

860
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.159
comes up is did Kirk know what was going to

861
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:36.960
be happening to this planet? We don't think so, and

862
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.039
Sulo surely doesn't think Kirk would sit there and put

863
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.880
them on a dying planet. But when they go down

864
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.000
and investigate the planet, they said, well this this once

865
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.760
was a lush planet and now it's a dying planet.

866
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:56.639
So it's interesting to see, Okay, what did Kirk know

867
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:01.039
when they put him on this planet? Because we talked

868
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:05.079
about SETI Alpha six, Well SETI Alpha, what happened to

869
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:09.920
the other SETI Alpha? And that's we learned in Ratha

870
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.920
Khan that that planet with that planet.

871
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:15.199
Had a destruction.

872
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.079
I forgot what caused it, but it just had a

873
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:22.599
self destruction. So we know something happened well, did anybody

874
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:24.000
know about this beforehand?

875
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:26.880
So I like the.

876
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:32.559
Questions in there. We see what kind of leader Khan is.

877
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.760
Con is a strong leader. He can sit there pull

878
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:42.199
a speech and his followers will sit there. You hear

879
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:47.199
the cheering in that one spot con con con These

880
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:52.320
leaders definitely are willing to follow him. So I think

881
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:57.039
it's an interesting perspective to what it was like after

882
00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:02.760
Khan left the Enterprise and how he felt about what happened,

883
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:08.239
and the continuing episodes kind of lead on to you

884
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.039
kind of get yourself on the edge wonder what's going on,

885
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:17.880
so you're looking forward to seeing what's happening next. And

886
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:21.480
this definitely would be up there ten for this one

887
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.199
because it's just a fabulous production.

888
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:31.599
It is absolutely outstanding. Yes, what do you think, Eric, Yeah,

889
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:33.440
I've heard a lot from a lot of people, So.

890
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.280
Yeah, that's okay. I got I got some more fresh

891
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:38.800
stuff to talk about. So, first of all, I think

892
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:42.519
this is great as a first foray into this concept

893
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.960
of the Star Trek universe. This is something that you know,

894
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:48.599
they've been talking about over there for a while, and

895
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:53.559
so far the universe has consisted only of television shows,

896
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:56.719
and I like the fact that we're actually moving beyond

897
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.320
just television shows now that we're going into other media.

898
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:02.239
And as a person who listens to a lot of

899
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:05.800
audio books and even audio dramas and that kind of stuff,

900
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:11.280
the format really works for me. I recognize that, you know,

901
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:12.920
we say why don't we sit down and listen to

902
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.119
the old radio play as well? It's because there's ten

903
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:18.639
thousand channels of television and everybody feels like they need

904
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:22.360
to be constantly stimulated. But here's what I'll say. If

905
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:26.280
you feel like you're too busy to listen to something

906
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.599
like this that's just audio, consider listening to it in

907
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:31.760
your car when you're driving from place to place. You know,

908
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.280
these episodes are, like Paul said, you know, thirty to

909
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.880
forty five minutes each. You can sort of listen to

910
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.920
them in a few different chunks, and the continuity is

911
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.320
very easy to follow. So I love the ability to

912
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:46.800
explore a little bit more Star Trek. I also listen,

913
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:49.719
of course to Star Trek novels in my car, but

914
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.679
to get this kind of like fresh content coming out

915
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.039
is really special for me. Charles already mentioned that this

916
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:01.119
is available on all your podcast software, so it's not

917
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.719
just YouTube. It's on pretty much anywhere you can get podcasts,

918
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:07.360
which I think is really cool. And then just diving

919
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.840
into the story a little bit. I love that they

920
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:12.480
kind of start out, you know, we talked about the

921
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.079
courtroom scenes, so to speak, at the beginning. The thing

922
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:21.039
that I find really cool about that is, you know,

923
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:24.840
I this this con somebody mentioned this earlier, this idea

924
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:27.960
that history has written by the victors. In this case,

925
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:33.480
it's doctor Rosalind Lear who not only acknowledges that but

926
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.639
uses it as a way to say, hey, maybe Con

927
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.719
wasn't all bad, Like people say that he was this

928
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.360
terrible tyrant and that kind of thing. But but there's

929
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.159
got to be more to the story than just him

930
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.639
being bad for the sake of being bad. So I

931
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.119
like that idea that we're we're kind of going down

932
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.199
this road, Like we already know the end of the story, right,

933
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:56.599
The end of the story is Wrath of Khan. Con

934
00:55:56.719 --> 00:56:01.000
dies spoiler alert, But like, how does he become this

935
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.320
super vengeful being that is chasing after Kirk? Which, by

936
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:08.079
the way, from a timeline standpoint, I like that the

937
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:12.559
new timeline in this one takes place after Kirk's death,

938
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:18.360
so he's you know, he's not part of this story

939
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:20.599
at all, which I think actually is necessary to be

940
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.360
able to fully explore the alternate things that might have

941
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:26.280
been going on with Con. If Kirk was around, he

942
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:28.679
would have been like, oh, he's a bad guy and Burderberg.

943
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:33.880
You know, So timing is great. The idea of exploring

944
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:40.559
all the complexities around Con is great. You know, when

945
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:43.239
we first meet Khn in this one, he's kind of

946
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:48.760
portrayed as this optimistic leader. You know, he's like, maybe

947
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:50.960
it was a good thing that Kirk marooned us on

948
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.920
this planet, man, because now we can remake this planet

949
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:56.480
in our own image. We can use all of its resources.

950
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:01.280
There's this concept that the Augments have of kind of domination, right,

951
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.480
like we can dominate this place. What do they say

952
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.719
that they like tell the young Joaquin character. He doesn't

953
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:11.519
say like go fishing and get us some dinner. He's like,

954
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:17.960
go to the river and make it give up its bounty. Whoa, hey,

955
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:21.079
he's I mean, but he go in there and like

956
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.719
wrestles some fish down or something. I don't know, but

957
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:28.079
you know the idea that he's he's like got this

958
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:32.320
concept of, yes, building an empire but he's optimistic about

959
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:37.039
what's going on because he because Kirk helped him, despite

960
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:38.760
the fact that he was sort of defeated by him,

961
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:42.599
have all of these resources out there and ability to

962
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:48.039
actually do that. So I like that, you know. And

963
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:51.320
then it's also a little complex because you're thinking, well,

964
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:54.119
he gives these great speeches, he's a great orator and stuff.

965
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:57.199
But is that is that just propaganda? Is that just

966
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.719
because he's he is a megalomaniac who wants to rule

967
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:03.639
some type of planet regardless of what's going on, or

968
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:05.599
does he really care about the people who were there?

969
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.159
I think that question is still open for interpretation, which

970
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:14.719
I really like. So and then let's talk about mcgivers.

971
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:18.920
So she's a greater mcgiver. Givers, I think this is

972
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:23.480
mc divers. So let's talk about mcgivers. So you know,

973
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:28.880
she's not well liked. We listened during the the trivia

974
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:33.280
section there to a scene where it sort of revealed

975
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:36.360
to her that she was brought along by Cohn to

976
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:41.159
be a breeding mayor, you know, and she had put

977
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:42.719
all her trust in con Right. At the end of

978
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.400
spaceyed like she kind of was enamored by him and

979
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:47.880
like she was willing to throw away her starfleet career

980
00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:51.639
to go along with this guy to some planet and

981
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.639
be marooned. Are you kidding me? And then there's like

982
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.559
this duplicity in con you know, he seems like he

983
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:01.599
loves her, but then he maybe doesn't. Really, just a

984
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:04.119
really cool complex story. Also like that she has this

985
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:09.079
kind of unique knowledge of Federation technology, right, so they

986
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:12.079
Kirk gave them all this stuff, but they don't know

987
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:13.320
how to use it. They don't even know what the

988
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.159
medicines do. They're saying, you know, do you have something

989
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.800
that does this? Or whatever your modern day equivalent would be.

990
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:26.360
So there's an ignorance to the Augments despite their intellectual superiority,

991
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:30.599
wherein mcgivers is actually you know, needed to be there.

992
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:34.360
So I think that's really cool. I love the story

993
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.679
of the of the couple that's looking to get pregnant.

994
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:41.360
Apparently they brought some frozen embryos along with them too,

995
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:45.239
which was kind of an interesting little twist at first.

996
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:48.039
And I'll say not relative to that, but relative to

997
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:50.400
just a couple of different characters that really confused the

998
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:54.000
first time I listened to this, because there was a

999
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:59.440
kid whose name was Joachim and then there was an

1000
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:04.400
adult whose name was Joaquin, and I read about that

1001
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:06.519
and now I get it. So what they were trying

1002
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.840
to do with this story is they're trying to correct

1003
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.400
and inconsistency in the cannon, so to speak, wherein in

1004
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:18.360
space scene there's an older guy playing the character of Joaquin,

1005
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:26.360
and then in Wrath of Khan, Joaquim is a young person. Right,

1006
01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:29.519
So those are two different characters, and one is the

1007
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.320
son of the other. And it took like the second

1008
01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:35.119
time I listened to it then I was like, Oh,

1009
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.800
it's not that different people are pronouncing the same name

1010
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.800
different ways. It's that it's literally two different names. It's

1011
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:43.639
two different characters. Now I get what's going on with

1012
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.760
these So I like that they took this opportunity to

1013
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:49.760
kind of make that little micro adjustment to something that

1014
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.760
people have been complaining about since Wrath of Khan came

1015
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:56.639
out back in the eighties. Very savvy, very cool way

1016
01:00:56.679 --> 01:01:02.800
to do it. So I just really dug that, Yeah,

1017
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:04.719
I won't tell you what happens in the end here.

1018
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:07.679
It was kind of a cool ending to the episode.

1019
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:09.519
I can't wait to see where that goes in the

1020
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:13.920
next episode. But overall, I agree with all the tru

1021
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:16.679
experts here. This is a ten for me. Love the format,

1022
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:18.880
They're knocking it out of the park. The acting is great,

1023
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.559
sound effects are great. I'm just really enjoying it right now,

1024
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:24.039
so I can't wait for more.

1025
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:28.159
You know. I also thought it was interesting that Marla

1026
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:32.760
refused to hang out in CON's tent or cabin whatever

1027
01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:36.079
she wanted to live in the cargo pods because she

1028
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:41.440
wanted to earn their respect. Of the rest of the augments,

1029
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:44.639
because they didn't respect her. Yeah, so she was trying

1030
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:47.280
to earn their respect by being her own person. I

1031
01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:49.599
thought that was you know, that gave the character a

1032
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.920
lot more dimension and depth than she had when she

1033
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:53.840
was on the show.

1034
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:56.199
Well yeah, and it shows her not just being this

1035
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:59.559
woman who like gave her life over to Con, but

1036
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.599
like so somebody who's actually in transition herself, right, She's

1037
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:05.840
she's kind of recognizing that she gave away this starfleet

1038
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:08.119
career and she needs a space to be her own

1039
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:11.280
because she's not just there to be Cohn's woman. I

1040
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:11.639
love that.

1041
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.320
Yeah, and the fact that that she brought a communicator

1042
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:20.639
with her, you know that, Yeah, that says now maybe

1043
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.880
this kind of thing, Michael South I got to be prepared.

1044
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:27.480
So she brought a communicator with her, which was another

1045
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:31.760
interesting fact. So, uh, did you guys think that Kirk

1046
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.239
had the the right to be judge, jury and executioner

1047
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.840
in this particular situation with Spacy? Did he have the

1048
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:44.119
right to just send all these people away without you know, Federation,

1049
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:49.360
the jury, or however they they do it. You guys

1050
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:51.159
think that Kirk made the right choice.

1051
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.559
Well, so we talked a little We touched on this

1052
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.719
a little bit last week. I think I agree that

1053
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:03.960
it was absolutely the right choice, because these right they'll

1054
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:06.159
break out of any prison, So it wasn't you couldn't

1055
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:09.119
really send them to prison. You're you're probably not going

1056
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:12.440
to be able to psychologically reform them in any way

1057
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:18.119
because they were literally genetically manipulated at from the beginning

1058
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:23.039
to be these conquistadors. So what else are you going

1059
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:25.679
to do with them? And I don't think that Kirk

1060
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.320
knew that SETI Alpha five was gonna break up. I

1061
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:31.320
feel like he even says that somewhere in Rathacon where

1062
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.280
he's like, I did you know the intent was not

1063
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.400
to send these people to a planet that was doomed.

1064
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:38.880
The intent was to like give them a second chance

1065
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:43.360
and allow them to live out their days somewhere where

1066
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:45.840
they could do it. But yeah, I just don't know

1067
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:48.000
what other choice he had, right, He could either like

1068
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:52.559
send them away exile or execute them or something. I

1069
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:54.880
don't even know. Yeah, there's not a lot of choices.

1070
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:57.760
Yeah, and at the end of Spaceyed, right, I mean,

1071
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:01.360
his decision seems like a really bad ass cool right,

1072
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.599
because he's there, they're having like a trial, right, because

1073
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:07.239
the guy just mutanted and took over the whole ship, right,

1074
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.800
I mean, I guess it's not mutant prove you know,

1075
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:13.119
he's a but he was you know and trek in

1076
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.840
the deep compression chamber and whatnot. And he's like, I'm

1077
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:19.480
ordering all charges against you, and he's like, people are

1078
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:21.760
amazed he's stopping, you know, and he's just like he

1079
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:26.639
basically gives them this you know, exile option. Right, And

1080
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.440
because there it's like the I can't remember the title,

1081
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.880
but like there's a early Next Generation episode where they

1082
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.519
find the claims that have been like, you know, in

1083
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:40.239
like a suspended animation.

1084
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:41.079
For a while from long ago.

1085
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:41.599
Yeah.

1086
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:44.320
Yeah, and they're they're they're people who aren't part of

1087
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.679
the time. They're in now, right, So they don't fit

1088
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.599
in their perennial misfits, right, They're they're out of time

1089
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.320
and they just don't they don't belong in this time.

1090
01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:53.880
So this is a chance for him to do it.

1091
01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:56.280
And he's like kind of dares it, and he's like,

1092
01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.440
you know, your your ancestors tamed a continent. Can you

1093
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:00.480
team world?

1094
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:00.960
Right?

1095
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:04.519
Just the way that it all shatnery and I mean,

1096
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.360
it's it seems like a really cool you know, because

1097
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:12.079
he's talking to con on terms he knows he'll he'll appreciate,

1098
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:14.719
you know, and busts out the Milton line at the end,

1099
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.199
you know, better to rule in hell than serve in heaven, right,

1100
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:21.440
which is you know that's conn So it's great. I

1101
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:24.000
think it's a really cool thing. I mean, they would have,

1102
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.199
you know, it would have been a real waste to

1103
01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.159
incarcerate these people, and they would have, like you said,

1104
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:32.360
they would have broke out. So it's really cool. I

1105
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.360
mean it's a very timeless, timeless, enduring story. I think

1106
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:40.199
it really it continues to fascinate this because the themes

1107
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:40.719
don't go away.

1108
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:43.960
I also think one of the things about the Wratha

1109
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.159
con that I don't want to say bothered me. One

1110
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:48.880
of the things I always thought was strange was how

1111
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:52.039
become all of the all of his followers on the

1112
01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:56.119
Reliant are like much much younger than him, and then

1113
01:05:56.159 --> 01:06:01.159
we find out in this audio drama that they were rescued.

1114
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:06.079
I'm calling them young lings, young augments, that uh, he

1115
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:08.360
rescued from Earth and that's why they were all so

1116
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.639
much younger than him. And he was like the grand

1117
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:15.599
Poopa of of all of them, you know, the grand Poopa,

1118
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.440
which I thought was cool. And the Joaquin thing that

1119
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.880
Eric touched on that, I was like, wow, that's pretty

1120
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:23.800
cool that they that they addressed that as well. I

1121
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:30.039
I thought it was an outstanding audio drama. Absolutely, I

1122
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:33.360
would give it a ten myself. Unfortunately, we don't have

1123
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:37.280
any fan ratings, so we have our ratings.

1124
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:40.480
We can only assume that every single one of them

1125
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:41.559
would have given an atten gym.

1126
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.719
Yeah, let's let's go with that.

1127
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:48.039
And we can always we can always ask for ratings again,

1128
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:51.639
right because now maybe after especially after this episode gets out,

1129
01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.039
maybe people will watch it, so like maybe next week

1130
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:57.639
or whatever, we ask again for fan scores. Right, and

1131
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.000
by then maybe people that will caught on with them,

1132
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:02.440
there'll be more awareness because I think when we first

1133
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.480
did it, people just didn't know because they haven't promoted

1134
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:07.199
this as widely as like television.

1135
01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:07.440
Right.

1136
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:10.960
Yeah, maybe awareness just wasn't there yet and people were

1137
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:11.639
hip to it.

1138
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:13.639
And I didn't. I don't think I gave my rating,

1139
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:16.480
but I will join the rest of you and say, yes,

1140
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:17.480
absolutely a ten.

1141
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:23.400
Are it's amazing that I don't know?

1142
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:24.719
Has that ever? You know what?

1143
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:28.119
No, I take that back. I give it a nine

1144
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:29.960
point three seven five.

1145
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:34.360
Uh oh, I do that perfectly.

1146
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:35.000
It's a ten.

1147
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.239
We know where you live or fire?

1148
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:45.320
No, it's it's a ten for me too.

1149
01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:47.599
Absolutely.

1150
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:52.679
I'm really looking forward to listening to episode two see

1151
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:55.079
seeing where this is. There's how many episodes are there,

1152
01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:55.639
Eric ten?

1153
01:07:56.440 --> 01:08:01.119
I think it's eight or nine of his head nine

1154
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:04.679
episodes were an episode four that just came out Monday.

1155
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:11.039
Yeah, So we'll do episode two next week, same BAT time,

1156
01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:13.400
same BAT channel. It gives you, guys an opportunity to

1157
01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:15.840
go out and catch up. Listen to episode one, listen

1158
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:19.920
to episode two, and be part of the conversation. Especially

1159
01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:23.840
a lot of our over overseas listeners as well, so

1160
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:27.960
they don't feel left out. So that's cool. And that

1161
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:33.239
pretty much wraps up our discussion on CON the audio drama,

1162
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:37.239
unless there's anything any interesting tidbits or anything anybody wants

1163
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:39.960
to add throw in there about CON before we move on.

1164
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:42.479
No, I mean I the one thing that I didn't mention.

1165
01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:44.520
I wasn't sure if anybody else was going to mention it.

1166
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:48.800
But this story of CON being on SETI Alpha five

1167
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:52.600
has been explored a couple of times in the past.

1168
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.600
But if you're a cannon freak, you know, if you

1169
01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:59.479
really care about it, remember this is the one that's official.

1170
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:05.119
So there was a comic book back in the mid

1171
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:08.680
two thousands, something like that, two thousand and eight, maybe

1172
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:12.560
maybe a little later, called Con Ruling in Hell that,

1173
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:15.439
by the way, was a was a fantastic comic. You

1174
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.439
should absolutely check it out. It is not totally consistent

1175
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:21.039
with what we're learning now, but it's still worth a

1176
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.479
read to me. And then I believe there was a

1177
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:27.520
series of novels two which I wrote down, but somehow

1178
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:29.399
I can't find my note on what that series of

1179
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:31.760
novels it was called. Those were also written in kind

1180
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:37.159
of that mid two thousands time period. So you know,

1181
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:40.119
go back read those.

1182
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:43.039
Greg Cox's Eugenics War.

1183
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:44.520
The Eugenics Wars, yes, two.

1184
01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:45.920
Thousand and one to two thousand and five.

1185
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.520
Okay, So so those those were not bad books at all.

1186
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.720
I mean I enjoyed them. I read them years ago,

1187
01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:56.000
like ten fifteen years ago, and so they're worth a read.

1188
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:59.199
Uh not official, but you know that doesn't mean they

1189
01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:02.159
couldn't have all so happened, and why not just enjoy

1190
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:04.479
the story for what it is. But this audio drama, man,

1191
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:07.000
this is if you're a can in person, you got

1192
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:09.119
to listen to it, otherwise your knowledge is incomplete.

1193
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:13.960
Absolutely. And I think I posted the cover for that

1194
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.279
comic book on the Facebook page because I think you

1195
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:20.479
commented on what a great read that it was. I did, yeaheah,

1196
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:23.119
because I was just looking for stuff for to throw

1197
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:26.239
out there for our fans, and I happened upon that

1198
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:29.000
I put that out there, and Eric had mentioned that

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01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:30.920
he read it and recommended it to you guys.

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01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:32.960
I mean, it's one of those ones that if you're

1201
01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:35.439
going to your local comic shop and digging around in

1202
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:38.720
the Star Trek boxes, you can often find a copy

1203
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:43.039
of that particular comic in there. I don't remember how

1204
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:44.680
many pages it was, but I feel like it was.

1205
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:47.479
It was a longer format. It was like that one

1206
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:50.840
of those thirty two or forty eight page things or something.

1207
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:53.960
It was the thick one and it had a whole story,

1208
01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:57.439
just one in the one issue. So go check it out.

1209
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:02.039
Yep. Absolutely, guys. Well, you know what time it is now,

1210
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:05.800
it's time for our star Trek birthdays, and that means

1211
01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:09.920
we have to find our Klingon song, which is right here,

1212
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:19.760
and get this out there.

1213
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:31.119
That was not a Clon song.

1214
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:34.479
And you know what, when we talked to the professor

1215
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:36.720
from the Klingon Language Institute, we're gonna have to play

1216
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:40.039
that song for him and ask him, you know, literally,

1217
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:44.960
how does his song translate into Klingon because h cling

1218
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:49.880
Clingons don't have a happy birthday, So that'd be interesting

1219
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:50.760
to see what you say.

1220
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:53.880
It's the for he's a jolly good fellow, you know tune,

1221
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:56.560
So I always assumed that they were translating that into Klingon,

1222
01:11:56.640 --> 01:11:57.760
but it would be interesting to know.

1223
01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:00.720
Yeah, we'll have to ask him when he comes on podcast,

1224
01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:04.640
so keep that in mind as a question for him. Hi, guys.

1225
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:06.560
So this is a part of the show where we

1226
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:11.119
do our Star Trek birthdays, obviously, and we usually like

1227
01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:14.399
to start out our Star Trek birthdays by remembering those

1228
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:17.279
members of our Star Trek family who, sadly enough, are

1229
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:20.439
no longer with us, and for that we turned to Eric.

1230
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:22.920
Well, Jim, We're going to start this week with a

1231
01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:26.239
pretty heavy hitter, not in very many episodes, but definitely

1232
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:29.920
an actor that we remember from back in the tos days.

1233
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:31.680
We would like to say happy birthday this week to

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01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:35.520
Roger C. Carmel. He of course is famous for playing

1235
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:39.600
the role of hardcore Fenton Mud in the original series

1236
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:43.840
first and second season episodes MUD's Women and I Mud.

1237
01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:47.000
He also, of course, of course, voiced the character in

1238
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:52.439
the animated series first season episode MUD's Passion. You know,

1239
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:56.760
Roger began his career in television back in the early sixties,

1240
01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.640
and he was on a lot of the shows that

1241
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:01.399
you may have remembered from that time. I'm including Naked

1242
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:03.960
City Car fifty four, Where Are You? The Dick Van

1243
01:13:04.039 --> 01:13:07.560
Dyke Show. He was on The Monsters, which is probably

1244
01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.640
where I saw him first because I was a monster's

1245
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:13.720
freak when I was a kid. But in nineteen eighty

1246
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:16.239
he won the regular role of Lawrence Brody in the

1247
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:20.680
NBC series Fits and Bones, which unfortunately only lasted five episodes,

1248
01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:24.399
but he got to work with Diana Muldar, so you know,

1249
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:26.840
it was probably worth it. They also made a little

1250
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:31.720
TV movie that reprised that in nineteen eighty two. After

1251
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.079
that part of his career, he pretty much became a

1252
01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:37.600
voice actor. And one of the places that I really

1253
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:40.680
know him from was he was on that Transformers original

1254
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:45.039
television series back in the day, and he play He

1255
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:47.520
got to play so many good bad guys, so he

1256
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:50.319
voiced some of the most terrifying voices on the show,

1257
01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:55.359
including the combiner Bruticus, he voiced Cyclonis. I know you

1258
01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:56.840
all don't know who any of these characters are, but

1259
01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:00.279
Transformers fans will know. He got to voice Metaesa, our

1260
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:04.000
motor master. He voiced the Quinnissan Leader, he actually voiced

1261
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:08.399
Unicorn at one point, and of course the horrifying disgruntled

1262
01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:09.079
business man.

1263
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:12.800
You know.

1264
01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:15.319
Of course, he wasn't the only one. You'll remember that. Actually,

1265
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:18.239
Leonard Nimoy voice some characters on Transformers too, so that

1266
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:21.000
was pretty cool. He was also the voice of Smoky

1267
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:25.159
the Bear in constant in countless forest service public service

1268
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:29.199
commercials throughout the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, so well

1269
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.880
known for that face, that mustache, and his wonderful voice.

1270
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:36.600
Thank you so much, Roger C. Carmel for your contributions

1271
01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:39.199
to Star Trek and beyond. Unfirstly, we lost you at

1272
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:41.760
a young age, only fifty four years old back in

1273
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:46.319
nineteen eighty six. Happy birthday to Roger. Happy birthday as

1274
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:49.600
well to Mike Dugan, the actor and stuntman who played

1275
01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:54.199
the Klar Warrior aka the Neanderthal Man in the original

1276
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:58.800
TOS pilot episode The Cage. He had myriad uncredited acting

1277
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:02.119
and stunt roles throughout the fifty and sixties, about sixty

1278
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:05.079
four acting credits, but you'll only find four of them

1279
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:08.520
on his IMDb page, and he had more than twice

1280
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:12.199
as many stunt credits, about nine stunt credits to his name.

1281
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:16.800
Other things, you may have seen him in Three Godfathers

1282
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:19.279
from nineteen forty eight, she wore a yellow ribbon from

1283
01:15:19.319 --> 01:15:23.159
nineteen forty nine, thunder Alley from nineteen sixty seven, and

1284
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:26.960
The Destructors from nineteen sixty eight. Mike lived to be

1285
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:29.319
ninety years old we lost him back in two thousand

1286
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:32.760
and two. Happy birthday to Mike Dugan. Happy birthday to

1287
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:37.159
Stephen Markle, the actor who portrayed Cova Thole in the

1288
01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:41.359
Next Generation third season episode Allegiance. He had various guest

1289
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:44.880
roles in shows like One Life to Live House, The OC,

1290
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:49.520
The West Wing Without a Trace, lots of shows kind

1291
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:53.199
of from those early two thousands. He was on twenty

1292
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:56.960
seven episodes of the Edge of Night in nineteen eighty

1293
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.720
two playing Lieutenant Tom Loomis, and then also had a

1294
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:03.239
handful of other movies and TV movies to his credit.

1295
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:08.520
Happy birthday, Stephen Markle, Happy birthday to Charles McCully, the

1296
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:13.159
actor who played Landrew in TOS first season episode Return

1297
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:16.640
of the Arkhans and Jeris in this second season episode

1298
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:19.920
Wolf in the Fold. He worked from the early sixties

1299
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:23.880
to the early nineties, including several appearances as Perry Mason's

1300
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:29.119
hapless opponent District Attorney Hamilton Berger. If you're a Perry

1301
01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:32.960
Mason fan, you probably recognize this face. His aristocratic bearing

1302
01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:37.680
and sonorous voice often led him to be cast as judges, doctors, attorneys,

1303
01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:42.640
and other authority figures. But where I really love him Is.

1304
01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:47.640
He starred as Count Dracula in the blaxploitation horror film

1305
01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:52.520
Blacula in nineteen seventy two, with fellow Trek actors Elisha Cook,

1306
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:57.800
Thalamus Rasulata, and William Marshall, who portrayed, of course, the

1307
01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:01.479
title role. Charles McCully back in nineteen ninety nine at

1308
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:05.239
seventy one years old, Happy birthday to you, Happy Birthday,

1309
01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:08.239
as well to Richard Hurd, the American actor who played

1310
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:12.359
Owen Paris in the sixth and seven season episodes of Voyager, Yes,

1311
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:16.600
That Boy's Dad, and LeCour in the Next Generation six

1312
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:20.640
season episodes Birthright Part one and Part two. This is

1313
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:22.960
a face I know, you all know. He's perhaps best

1314
01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:26.279
known for his role as the Visitor Supreme Commander John

1315
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:30.279
in the science fiction mini series V from nineteen eighty three.

1316
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:34.520
He's also known for starring opposite William Shatner in TJ. Hooker,

1317
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:39.680
for playing Admiral Noise in Squest DSV, and for his

1318
01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:44.800
recurring role as Mister Wilhelm on Seinfeld. At one point,

1319
01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:47.439
he was the third National Vice President of the Screen

1320
01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:51.840
Actors Guild and was a member of the Enterprise Blues Band,

1321
01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:55.600
a musical group that writes and performs songs about Star Trek.

1322
01:17:56.720 --> 01:18:00.720
So cool. He plays the gut box, bass, the kazoo

1323
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:05.720
and sings. So there you go. Richard heard, multi talented,

1324
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:08.520
was in all kinds of stuff. I remember him mostly

1325
01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:10.319
from V to Tell You the Truth. I love that

1326
01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:12.560
show when I was a kid. We lost him at

1327
01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:16.199
eighty seven years old. Back in twenty twenty, Happy birthday

1328
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:20.640
to Richard Hurd. Happy birthday to Arthur Bernard, the stage

1329
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:25.479
actor the stage name of Arthur Friedman, who played Appella

1330
01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:28.720
in the TOS second season episode A Private Little War.

1331
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:32.520
In nineteen forty eight, he began a forty two year

1332
01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:36.560
tenure as a professor at the UCLA School of Theater,

1333
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:40.199
Film and Television. He taught courses on acting and directing

1334
01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:44.199
for film and television, as well as broadcasting, sportscasting, and

1335
01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:48.880
production techniques. He also wrote, produced, and directed various projects

1336
01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:51.479
for radio, television, and the stage. Among these was the

1337
01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:55.239
radio series Turning Point, which ran from nineteen fifty through

1338
01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:59.840
nineteen sixty five. That's fifteen years, which featured interviews with

1339
01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:04.640
over one hundred celebrities. Really cool guy. He doesn't have

1340
01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:09.239
very many acting gigs, but his impact on the entertainment

1341
01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:13.279
industry is undeniable. Happy Birthday to Arthur Bernard lost back

1342
01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:15.760
in two thousand and one at eighty one years old.

1343
01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:20.359
Also saying Happy birthday this week to William Wyndham, the

1344
01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:22.279
actor from New York City who's well known for his

1345
01:19:22.399 --> 01:19:26.159
portrayal of Commander Matt Decker character I know Paul in

1346
01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:29.279
particular likes a lot from the TOS second season episode

1347
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:32.359
The Doomsday Machine. In two thousand and four, he reprised

1348
01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:36.159
the role of Commodore Matt Decker in the in harms

1349
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:40.159
Way episode of the fans series Star Trek New Voyages.

1350
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:43.119
He won an Emmy Award in nineteen seventy for his

1351
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:47.520
performance in the short lived James Thurber sitcom My World

1352
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:50.279
and Welcome to It. I was unfamiliar with that.

1353
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:53.000
Sounds like, well, I know, and that's what I was. Yeah,

1354
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:57.039
that's because my dad watched it and he got me

1355
01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:02.079
into it, and yeah, it was. It was really cute.

1356
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:04.199
I'll have to seek it out and see if I

1357
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:07.079
can find an episode or two. But you know, William

1358
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:10.039
Windham is probably best remembered for his recurring role as

1359
01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:14.359
doctor Seth Hazlitt on the hit mystery series Murder, she wrote,

1360
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:17.560
co starring, of course, Michael Horton in addition to the

1361
01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:20.720
wonderful Angela Lansbury. He was a prolific actor and has

1362
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:24.640
over two hundred and fifty credits on IMDb. Two hundred

1363
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.920
and fifty. That's a lot. William Wyndham, we miss you

1364
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.840
lost back in twenty twelve at the age of eighty

1365
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.800
eight years old. Happy birthday to you, sir, and last

1366
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:35.680
but not least, on our remembered list. This week we

1367
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:39.920
say happy birthday to Prisis Cambata, the Indian model and

1368
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:43.359
actress who played Aliah and of course the you know

1369
01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:47.960
merged Ailiah Probe from Star Trek the motion picture The

1370
01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:48.640
greatest Star.

1371
01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:52.399
Trek movie Wait, I thought five was? I thought Star

1372
01:20:52.439 --> 01:20:54.319
Trek FI was the greatest ever.

1373
01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:56.720
I just say that.

1374
01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:58.560
I'm not even sure if I believe it, but it

1375
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:02.319
is fantastic. She, of course, was born in Mumbai, India,

1376
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:06.039
in a middle class Parsi family. She started her career

1377
01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:08.720
at age thirteen years old when she was hired for

1378
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:12.800
advertisements for a soap brand. After photos of her taken

1379
01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:17.479
accidentally by a famous photographer became popular in nineteen sixty five,

1380
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.720
at age seventeen, she was named Miss India and participated

1381
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:24.920
in that year's Miss Universe pageant. Unable to find success

1382
01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:27.560
in the Indian film industry also known as Bollywood, though,

1383
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:31.880
she began acting in international films, and her performance in

1384
01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:34.600
the motion picture led to major roles in the film's

1385
01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:38.359
Nighthawks from nineteen eighty one, Mega Force from nineteen eighty two,

1386
01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:42.840
and Warrior of the Lost World from nineteen eighty five. Unfortunately,

1387
01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:47.479
she never really found success in her acting career despite

1388
01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:52.439
her talents, however, and she decided to return to India

1389
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:55.359
to try once again to establish herself as a Bollywood actress,

1390
01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:57.359
but that didn't work out, so she returned to the

1391
01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:01.720
United States and began working in television in various capacities.

1392
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:05.880
So Pursis Cambata unfortunately lost all the way back in

1393
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:08.920
nineteen ninety eight. She was very young. She was only

1394
01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:12.560
forty nine when we lost her. But man, what a

1395
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:17.119
pivotal role in that movie of playing Ailiah, and we

1396
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:21.560
miss her, and it's so cool that we can actually

1397
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:23.439
still see her every once in a while on film

1398
01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:26.279
and when we annually watch the best Star Trek movie

1399
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:30.279
of all time and that folks does it for our remembrances.

1400
01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:34.119
So I'm going to pass this flaming birthday candle onto

1401
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:35.720
my good friend Charles.

1402
01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:37.359
Oh thank you, Eric.

1403
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:40.960
Let's all start off with a warm happy birthday to

1404
01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:46.359
Scott the Venny who betrayed Bob Briggs this jar Trek

1405
01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:51.479
for the Voyage Home, one of the characters we didn't quite

1406
01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:53.119
like in that movie.

1407
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:59.399
For things he did. Happy Birthday. Sarah Rained, who played

1408
01:22:59.479 --> 01:23:03.520
Elene in Star Trek Voyager's second season episode In a

1409
01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:08.520
sense as we see she also got to play Hannah

1410
01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:14.600
in Toy Story Heavy birth to s D Chandler. Actress

1411
01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:20.840
who played Alana Mirren in TG's first season episode Coming

1412
01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:21.880
of Age.

1413
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:25.560
Heavy Birthday.

1414
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:31.079
Lindsay Stoddart, actress who played in Davida in Star Trek

1415
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:39.000
Enterprises third season episode Chosen Realm. Heavy Birthday to Bridget

1416
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:44.720
and White, actress from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, who played Laurel in

1417
01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:49.479
Tar Trek d Spates Nines six season episode who mourns

1418
01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:50.520
for morn.

1419
01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:56.159
And last on my list is.

1420
01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:08.600
The Tala y Gold who played Anaya and Nidjevich in

1421
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:15.680
TNG and DS nine. Was she one of the good Admirals?

1422
01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:21.239
Eric, Uh, yeah, I mean I personally think she was

1423
01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:24.039
a good admiral. I think that you'll get some flak

1424
01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:32.560
for that from particularly misogynistic men, But yeah, yeah, her

1425
01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:33.800
heart was definitely in the right place.

1426
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:37.199
Well that's good, so we got it one of the

1427
01:24:37.279 --> 01:24:39.439
rare good admirals.

1428
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:41.159
So Paul, I.

1429
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.239
Hope you have some good admirals on your list.

1430
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:47.039
Well, we'll see. We have some interesting folks on here,

1431
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:50.079
for sure, Charles absolutely. First of all, let's say happy

1432
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:53.800
birthday to Mimi Craven. Mimi Craven is the stage name

1433
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:58.079
of medicine E Meyer, actress who played Jeza in Voyagers

1434
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:03.159
six season episode Dragon Teeth. Happy Birthday, as well to

1435
01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:07.760
Shaye Astar, actress and singer as well, who played Isabella

1436
01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:12.359
in Next Gen's fifth season episode Imaginary Friend. A couple

1437
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:17.439
of cool episodes there. Today, Friends, Today is the birthday

1438
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:22.640
of the legendary Len Cairou, a Canadian actor who played

1439
01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:26.239
an alien taking the appearance of Vice Admiral Janeway in

1440
01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:32.720
Voyager's third season episode Coda. But Lenn Cayrous something of

1441
01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:36.359
a legend. I don't know if you're familiar with him, Eric,

1442
01:25:36.439 --> 01:25:40.880
but he won the Best Actor in a musical Tony

1443
01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:44.159
Award back in nineteen seventy nine for originating the role

1444
01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:45.079
of Sweeney Todd.

1445
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:47.279
I did not know that.

1446
01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:51.079
Absolutely, Yeah, he was quite in the late seventies.

1447
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:52.880
Early he was quite well known.

1448
01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:56.479
He was in nineteen seventy going back even further, he

1449
01:25:56.560 --> 01:25:59.640
was Tony nominated for Applause and then again for a

1450
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:03.159
Little Music. And he's actually in the film version of

1451
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:08.159
Little Night Music as well. But wonderful New York actor

1452
01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:13.039
the Tom Selleck show Blue Bloods. He played Tom Sellick's

1453
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:15.359
father in that for quite a weird even though it's

1454
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:19.640
only five years older than Tom Selleck. Phil little Hollywood

1455
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:24.600
magic there, but Lenn Chyru is pretty phenomenal, So we

1456
01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:29.000
salute you, sir. Happy birthday to a Broadway legend and

1457
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:34.319
star Trek alumnus. Also having a birthday today is Antoinette

1458
01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:39.079
Bauer German born British actress who played Sylvia in the

1459
01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:42.800
second season episode cats Paw. She was like right out

1460
01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:45.079
of a Hammer horror flick the way she was just

1461
01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:48.960
the one seduced a little too close to evil, doing

1462
01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:52.760
all kinds of nefarious things. She just really gave.

1463
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:55.199
It all, left it all on the stage in that episode.

1464
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:59.159
She was great, well well done Antoinette Bauer, and I'm

1465
01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:02.920
delight to be able to wish a happy birthday to

1466
01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:06.760
this gentleman. If you go to the internet, it says

1467
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:09.239
retired actor. But I just don't want to believe it.

1468
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:12.039
I just don't want to believe that he's done, because

1469
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:16.319
he's set a talent. The great Avery Brooks is born

1470
01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:21.640
October second. Actually, I've got my dates all wrong. Second,

1471
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:23.840
I don't know what day it is. It's been a

1472
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:29.800
crazy week. I really don't so today is Avery Brooks's birthday. Gosh,

1473
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:35.680
but with an incredibly accomplished stage, television, film actor, a teacher,

1474
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:39.720
a civil rights advocate, best known, of course, in Star

1475
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:45.319
Trek for being the phenomenal emissary Benjamin Cisco on Star

1476
01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:49.800
Trek Deep Space nine. He is the only actor who

1477
01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:52.079
appeared in all one hundred and seventy three episodes of

1478
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:56.720
that series, in addition to directing several other episodes. I

1479
01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:01.880
still remember the first time I saw Avery Brooks. I

1480
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.319
don't know, Jim probably will remember this. This is going

1481
01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:07.880
way back, you know what I'm gonna say, right I do.

1482
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:10.560
This is going back on Mike. I was, you know,

1483
01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:12.600
on a eighty five. I think it wasn't like that.

1484
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:16.960
There's a show called Spencer for Hire yea with Bobart

1485
01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:19.760
gurt Right, and they brought him in to be kind

1486
01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:24.039
of the dangerous, you know, wrong side of the law

1487
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:27.840
assistance right, and he was just such a badass. I

1488
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:29.840
don't know that there'd ever been such a badass on

1489
01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:32.279
television before. It was just like what I mean, he

1490
01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:35.920
was just so tough and threatening and cool all at once.

1491
01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:37.359
He was just like he was like out of a

1492
01:28:37.359 --> 01:28:41.479
Tarantino movie. He was just amazing, way way way way

1493
01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:44.239
back in the day. And he was in like sixty

1494
01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:47.680
five episodes of that season and then all these different

1495
01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:50.439
subsequent series that he had, a spinoff series called a

1496
01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:56.119
Man called Hawk, he was in Roots the Gift voice

1497
01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:59.600
actor on Gargoyles, Uh did a ton of great work.

1498
01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:03.039
And then a really interesting film American History X. I

1499
01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:06.720
don't know if folks have checked that out, a very dark,

1500
01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:12.439
challenging film with Edward Norton and Edward Furlong, but really

1501
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:16.000
amazing stuff. But he's in that as well, but just

1502
01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:20.039
a star trek legend. And this Cisco story goes on

1503
01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:21.560
in comics, so we get a.

1504
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:21.960
Lot of that.

1505
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.920
But but man, that's an individual I would love to

1506
01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:28.720
sit down and talk to. I mean, so much great work.

1507
01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:29.119
Uh.

1508
01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:31.359
I remember when I first heard he was getting cast,

1509
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:33.840
I'm like, they're casting that guy to be a star

1510
01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:37.920
trek captain. That's the baddest move was. I was just

1511
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:40.720
this floored because it was so courageous and cool. It

1512
01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:43.279
was such a such a you know, dark character. I mean,

1513
01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:46.359
he's not going to be, you know, a typical nice captain.

1514
01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:48.560
He's going to have nuance. And then just what he

1515
01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:53.079
did being the widower survivor of Wolf three five nine,

1516
01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:57.880
I was like, damn hardcore, So a real legend. Who

1517
01:29:57.920 --> 01:29:59.600
wants to say something about Avery.

1518
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:03.239
Brooks say something? Because because of that role in Hawk,

1519
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:07.239
and he was so people were so familiar with him

1520
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:12.119
as why in the beginning Cisco didn't have the goatee

1521
01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:18.159
and had hair and Avery, if I recall reading, he

1522
01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:21.239
didn't that wasn't him. He didn't like that, and so

1523
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:23.600
it took a little bit for them to get Cisco

1524
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:27.079
to get to that look that we know so well.

1525
01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:28.840
So that was something.

1526
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:32.079
Yeah, they thought it. They thought the hair and lack

1527
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:35.680
of beard made him look like a less threatening black

1528
01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:38.399
beant horrible, horrible.

1529
01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:39.680
Yeah, but I.

1530
01:30:41.359 --> 01:30:44.239
Do love but he scored because he ends up having

1531
01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:47.520
two different Star Trek actions against as a result because

1532
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:50.560
they did both. He yeah, sorry.

1533
01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:54.560
You know, he had that in a time where he

1534
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:58.760
didn't really see a lot of it, a positive relationship

1535
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:04.800
with his son. And when I met Siroc Loten, I

1536
01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:07.960
mean they still they still talk, they're still in contact,

1537
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:11.640
you know, weekly or daily or something. But yeah, they

1538
01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:18.000
never lost contact. And Siroc said that that Avery sort

1539
01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:20.760
of included him and his family, and people thought that

1540
01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:24.439
Siroc was actually his son for the longest time. So

1541
01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:27.680
and you can see it comes across on the screen

1542
01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:31.319
when he, you know, Cisco and Jake are together, you

1543
01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:35.319
see beyond just the you know, the acting, you see

1544
01:31:35.359 --> 01:31:38.439
the genuine connection. I just absolutely love that.

1545
01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.680
But a real, a real, just genuine legend, right, I mean,

1546
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:47.960
it would just be so cool to be able to

1547
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:50.680
have a conversation with him. But and just one of

1548
01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:56.199
those actors you just see the stagecraft, you know, the

1549
01:31:56.199 --> 01:31:59.199
theater in everything he does. He's just got so much

1550
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:03.600
precise control and so much emotion that he's able to

1551
01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:08.880
bring to bring to his roles. I just think he's

1552
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:12.760
phenomenal but a real craftsman of the highest order. So

1553
01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:18.000
we salute you, sir, and I hope we would let

1554
01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:21.800
the cross paths with you and here with ughts someday, men,

1555
01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:25.760
come on the show if you ever lost find yourself

1556
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:28.199
one night going, I need to talk to some crazy people.

1557
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:30.520
We'd love to have you. We'd love to have you.

1558
01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:34.680
But a wonderful, wonderful performance. So and I think there

1559
01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:37.439
may be even more folks we have still to acknowledge

1560
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:40.000
courtesy of Uncle Jim. He's usually got a klingon sitting

1561
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:41.199
under his desk somewhere.

1562
01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:45.800
Yeah, I like to do the klingons. Well I do

1563
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:48.600
have Yeah, I kind of have a cling on. So

1564
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:52.079
we want to say happy birthday to Dennis danger Metalone.

1565
01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:55.960
He's a stuntman and stunt coordinator who served as stunt

1566
01:32:56.039 --> 01:33:00.079
coordinator for TNG beginning with its third season, DS nine

1567
01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:05.479
and Voyager. I personally am going to remember him as

1568
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:09.199
appearing as the klingon operative a tool in the DS

1569
01:33:09.279 --> 01:33:12.600
nine episode The Visionary and you can see there he

1570
01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:15.039
is right up on the screen as a klingon. But

1571
01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:19.199
he's been a board, he's been a Cardassian, he's been

1572
01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:22.760
many many things. He's also been on the podcast and

1573
01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:26.359
he's a really good friend of a good friend of

1574
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:31.520
ours v Leslie Hoffman. And oddly enough, something you guys

1575
01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:34.079
may or may not have known, he's the one that

1576
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:40.640
created the Klingon batliff combat training. I don't know what

1577
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:43.359
you call it, but he's the one that taught the

1578
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:47.760
Klingons how to wield the bat left and Leslie Hoffman

1579
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:50.439
talked about that a lot on our podcast when we

1580
01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:53.359
used to do it called Stunt Treks, which you guys

1581
01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:57.159
can find over at tek talking dot com. So happy

1582
01:33:57.159 --> 01:34:03.720
birthday to Dennis Danger mat alone and not a kling On,

1583
01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.920
although I bet you she could kick some klingon ass

1584
01:34:06.920 --> 01:34:09.800
if she really wanted to. A friend of the show,

1585
01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:12.279
we had her on the podcast. We want to say

1586
01:34:12.319 --> 01:34:17.560
Happy birthday to Elizabeth Dannihe and there she is right there.

1587
01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:23.000
She played Elizabeth Shelby in the TNG third and fourth

1588
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:25.560
season episodes The Best of Both World Part one and

1589
01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:29.720
Part two. She also appeared in Picard's third season episode

1590
01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:35.960
Box as Admiral than He and on Lower Decks and

1591
01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:40.000
that and she was awesome. If you guys, If you

1592
01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:43.079
guys missed our interview with her. Go and check that

1593
01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:45.600
out at check talkin dot com because she was a pleasure.

1594
01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:49.840
Yeah did she talk about her because her father is

1595
01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:56.039
Brian Dennie, So did she talk about him on and

1596
01:34:56.119 --> 01:34:59.000
like growing up? Okay, I'll have to watch that.

1597
01:34:59.159 --> 01:35:02.319
Yes, yeah she was what a storyteller. Yeah, she's got

1598
01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:06.439
a long life and she was shared a lot about

1599
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:10.000
life relationship with the so definitely check it out.

1600
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:13.079
Yeah she was. She was a delight to talk to.

1601
01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:15.039
Splendid guest, really really great.

1602
01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:18.760
I mean you know, wow, Yeah, sometimes you have happened

1603
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.000
upon a really good one and she was one of them.

1604
01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:26.760
So happy birthday to a borg expert, Commander Shelby. And

1605
01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:29.800
and like is she really dead? Like did we actually

1606
01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:30.840
see a body?

1607
01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:33.239
We didn't see a body.

1608
01:35:33.680 --> 01:35:37.359
We didn't see a body, So you know, she could

1609
01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:42.880
you know, there could be an audio drama about her

1610
01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:46.600
at the area you know who knows? All right, guys,

1611
01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:49.720
So that wraps up our Star Trek birthdays for this week.

1612
01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:51.079
I hope you had a lot of fun. I hope

1613
01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:53.760
you learned a lot, and I hope that you shared

1614
01:35:53.760 --> 01:35:57.239
a birthday with one of your favorite actors. And that

1615
01:35:57.279 --> 01:36:00.159
brings us up to our Star Trek News and and

1616
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:05.039
that means where is it right here? Why is it

1617
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:06.239
not working? There?

1618
01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:09.680
We go Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on

1619
01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:10.640
secure channel.

1620
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:17.159
Incoming transmission enter authorization code, command codes verified.

1621
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:21.279
Define parameters of program level nine.

1622
01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:24.319
Authorization required, specifying parameters.

1623
01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:27.680
Transfer updata is complete.

1624
01:36:28.199 --> 01:36:30.880
Blank alert A blank alert.

1625
01:36:32.119 --> 01:36:34.720
All right, guys. This is our Star Trek News section

1626
01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:36.479
where we can find out what's going on around the

1627
01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:40.479
Star Trek universe. And Eric has our first story for

1628
01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:42.239
the week, So Eric, take it away.

1629
01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:46.479
Yeah, Jim, this week we have a rere not weird

1630
01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:49.319
thing that but we are going to talk about mister

1631
01:36:49.319 --> 01:36:53.439
Shatner and our Shatner says, what section. Fortunately he is

1632
01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:57.159
still with us because of course, at ninety four years old,

1633
01:36:57.239 --> 01:37:00.760
he was rushed to the hospital and he's now talking

1634
01:37:00.800 --> 01:37:03.159
about it. Fans have been holding their breath since hearing

1635
01:37:03.159 --> 01:37:05.960
William Shatner was rushed to the hospital earlier this week.

1636
01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:08.520
That would have been last week. Shatner is one of

1637
01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:10.840
the most iconic individuals in TV history and has a

1638
01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:14.000
special place in many Star Trek fans. Hearts so news

1639
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:17.159
of an apparent medical emergency. On Wednesday, the twenty fourth

1640
01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:20.039
of September left many fans of the ninety four year

1641
01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:23.319
old worried in regard to being rushed to the hospital.

1642
01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:26.159
Information began to trickle out on social media, and we

1643
01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:28.479
learned that the reason for his hospital visit was due

1644
01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:32.079
to him suffering an issue with his blood sugar. Shatner

1645
01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:35.680
then took to X to insist that he was perfectly fine.

1646
01:37:36.079 --> 01:37:39.359
He even joked that rumors of my diva demise have

1647
01:37:39.479 --> 01:37:43.800
been greatly exaggerated. He added, I overindulged. I thank you

1648
01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:47.000
all for caring, but I'm perfectly fine. I keep telling

1649
01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:51.720
you all, don't trust tabloids or AI. In a follow up,

1650
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:54.399
Shatner continued to make light of his hospital trip and

1651
01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:58.520
highlighted an upcoming appearance at a convention. He said, Salt Lakers,

1652
01:37:59.039 --> 01:38:02.600
I'll be at a fan at Fan X in Salt

1653
01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:06.279
Lake City. Better come see me before another tabloid tries

1654
01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:09.039
to kill me off. This was a great relief to

1655
01:38:09.119 --> 01:38:11.960
fans who took to Shatner's comments section. One fan wrote,

1656
01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:14.640
good to hear from you. Yes, we were worried. We

1657
01:38:14.680 --> 01:38:16.640
still want you here on earth for a bit longer.

1658
01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:22.119
Another added, full recovery Captain at warp Speed that's in order.

1659
01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:26.239
A third wrote, I'm sending some extra love to you today, Captain.

1660
01:38:26.279 --> 01:38:29.199
No matter how else my day goes, it's better because

1661
01:38:29.239 --> 01:38:34.479
I know you're all right. And another fan simply said, oh, captain,

1662
01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:38.439
my captain. So we are extremely happy that mister Shatner

1663
01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:42.359
is still with us, because without him, we don't have

1664
01:38:42.399 --> 01:38:48.520
a Shatner says, what segment? No, But seriously, I'm so

1665
01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:50.279
glad you're here. So glad you can still keep doing

1666
01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:53.159
the convention scene and uh, and we hope that you

1667
01:38:53.199 --> 01:38:54.640
are with us for many years to come.

1668
01:38:56.960 --> 01:38:59.319
And I will I will throw out as shame lets plug.

1669
01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:02.560
He's going to be at Trekknda Roga and Takana Roga,

1670
01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:06.159
New York. The original series Star Treks tours on November

1671
01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:09.479
sixteenth and seventeenth. So head up to my neck of

1672
01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:11.560
the woods, say hello to William Shatner. Truck out the

1673
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:15.319
truk talking table while you're there, all right. And this

1674
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:17.960
next one, this next one I had to do for Paul.

1675
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:21.399
When I saw this, I said, this is for Paul,

1676
01:39:21.439 --> 01:39:23.439
So take it away, Paul.

1677
01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:25.079
Uncle dam m.

1678
01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:29.279
So we had at the founder over indulging. He says,

1679
01:39:29.279 --> 01:39:31.319
too much. Sorry, And Brandy I guess well, you know

1680
01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:35.600
he's entitled He's entitled Let's talk toys because we got

1681
01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:38.880
a fascinating look at some of the Nacelle Company's new

1682
01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:42.199
Star Trek figures, even without a single one of them

1683
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:46.439
actually released yet in our grubby little lands. The thing

1684
01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:49.079
we love most about Nassell's line of Star Trek action

1685
01:39:49.159 --> 01:39:52.640
figures is the company's willingness to get as a weird

1686
01:39:52.840 --> 01:39:56.560
and dorky about its lineup as any trekky out there would.

1687
01:39:57.159 --> 01:40:00.600
But card and Kirk before calling it today, not how

1688
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:04.920
about two Vicks and wayoum? How about Captain Janeway but

1689
01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:07.720
a version of her very specific to one episode? What

1690
01:40:07.720 --> 01:40:13.000
ab I'm Chellico? What about Bam bamn. Nacelle's desire to

1691
01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:15.439
cover the whole breadth of the Star Trek means we've

1692
01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.159
got to look at three waves worth of wonderfully deep

1693
01:40:18.239 --> 01:40:21.920
fat election figures. The company has plans for so far

1694
01:40:22.560 --> 01:40:28.000
Wave three at least acquiescence to Star Trek's sixtieth anniversary

1695
01:40:28.039 --> 01:40:31.439
next year, which is going to be hard on our wallets. Friends,

1696
01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:34.479
will let me tell you wow. And because they're going

1697
01:40:34.560 --> 01:40:37.279
to have a round dedicated entirely to the main crew

1698
01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:39.960
of the original star Trek, so that's just one entire wave,

1699
01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:42.199
so you get them all in one fell swoop, which

1700
01:40:42.239 --> 01:40:46.720
is great. But revealed to audiences at Nascelle's panel at

1701
01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:51.960
Fanax Salt Lake, and in Paul's case time to the

1702
01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:56.079
Enterprise's twenty fifth anniversary of that series. We got these

1703
01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:59.279
renders that your patreon folks can see up on the

1704
01:40:59.319 --> 01:41:05.439
screen here right now, of them and to Paul joining

1705
01:41:05.479 --> 01:41:10.119
Wave two alongside Generations Captain Kirk Wharf and Jordie and

1706
01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:13.760
their sailor uniforms in the same movie, Captain Jane Way

1707
01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:17.000
with that iconic Year of Hell two parter look, and

1708
01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:21.119
some nog from Deep Space nine, Valerius from the Undiscovered Country,

1709
01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:24.079
and Carol Marcus from Wratham con Oh. I can't even

1710
01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:26.479
keep track. This is a lot of action figures going

1711
01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:30.039
on here, friends, and the one I'm most excited about

1712
01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:32.760
the Romulant Commander from one of the greatest episodes of

1713
01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:36.039
Startic ever made, Balance and Terror. Okay, is that is

1714
01:41:36.199 --> 01:41:40.039
an overdue figure. I can't wait for that because Waves

1715
01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:43.680
due to ship out next year twenty six I believe

1716
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.359
is next year last I checked. But as you can see,

1717
01:41:46.399 --> 01:41:50.520
Bem is just Amazing Waves due to ship alongside the

1718
01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:52.720
rest of Wave tunes and retails for about twenty nine

1719
01:41:52.760 --> 01:41:55.079
bucks a pop. But you can pre order them now

1720
01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:58.520
and they are going to be shipping at some point

1721
01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:03.279
next year, which is great news here. So let's talk

1722
01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:07.039
about these just a little bit. Okay, enterprises no nonsense

1723
01:42:07.119 --> 01:42:11.600
science officer in XO, except when she's smearing gel all

1724
01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:15.680
over herself, is of course, to Paul on board the NXO.

1725
01:42:15.800 --> 01:42:18.880
One to Paul comes with a host of accessories inspired

1726
01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:21.880
by the back half of the show, wearing her season

1727
01:42:22.039 --> 01:42:25.720
three jumpsuit. No Gel included. To Paul comes with four

1728
01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:30.239
sets of alternate hands and includes a pad and extra

1729
01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:35.880
data module, a phase pistol, a communicator, a vulcan handscanner,

1730
01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:39.920
and a book that I'm sure all about gel and

1731
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:43.960
a canister of Trullium d or from the episode called Impulse,

1732
01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:48.680
and her mother's serenite eite pendent from the episode called Awakening.

1733
01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:54.039
So it's a very To Paul centric set of accessories

1734
01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:56.279
that you can have there. Now we're going back for

1735
01:42:56.319 --> 01:42:59.239
a serious deep cut though, because we're having the very

1736
01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:04.319
first animated series figure in the cells line. Even Ben

1737
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:10.479
faithfully recreates the mysterious Pandronian Commander from the original series,

1738
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:14.640
season two episode Bem right down to a tea friends,

1739
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:18.239
including the fact that his head, torso and legs can

1740
01:43:18.319 --> 01:43:22.039
be split apart as they did in the show and

1741
01:43:22.159 --> 01:43:27.720
connected back again together by magnets, or as Ben would

1742
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:32.000
have put it, this one must disassemble. I think that

1743
01:43:32.119 --> 01:43:35.399
was a Jimmy Dewing voice work for Ben if I

1744
01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:37.039
remember correct voice.

1745
01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:43.760
Holy crap, am I watching the episode right now?

1746
01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:46.760
I watched a lot of animated television.

1747
01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:47.239
Child.

1748
01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:53.199
It's just a It's more information than anyone wants to know.

1749
01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:57.560
It explains a lot. Bem's accessories include an alternate head,

1750
01:43:57.680 --> 01:44:00.760
two sets of Type one phasers and handheld communicators, and

1751
01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:04.359
two sets of inner neotlely arms. And if that wasn't off,

1752
01:44:04.399 --> 01:44:06.680
he even comes to the piece of wooden caging to

1753
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:09.680
replicate the rudimentary prison he found himself in on Delta.

1754
01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:13.039
So wow, I mean that, Look at that. That's a

1755
01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:17.640
whole lot of crazy stuff going there. He would love

1756
01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:20.279
to get Brian Volkweis from The Cell on the show

1757
01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:22.680
and get him to talk to us about his incredible

1758
01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:26.000
deep cut series of action figures. I hope these all

1759
01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:28.600
see the light of day. These are such crazy times

1760
01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:31.640
to be launching an action figure line, with the tariffs

1761
01:44:31.640 --> 01:44:34.800
and the nonsense and the shipping and the craziness, and

1762
01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:37.600
it's just he's a heroic guy for attempting to pull

1763
01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:39.960
this off. I'm just really excited for these to start

1764
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:43.439
showing up in our greedy little hands. But every few

1765
01:44:43.439 --> 01:44:48.000
weeks we get something exciting. By my watch, in just

1766
01:44:48.039 --> 01:44:50.159
a few short days, it's gonna be New York Comic Con.

1767
01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:54.399
So who knows, that's a big, big releasing news event

1768
01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:58.319
every year. I will tell you from firsthand experience.

1769
01:44:58.439 --> 01:44:59.720
And so maybe he's.

1770
01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:02.720
Going to show up there and release even more news

1771
01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:05.840
of upcoming figures or prototypes, and hopefully we can chat

1772
01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:08.960
about those in a future news segment. But this is

1773
01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:09.840
a treat to see.

1774
01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:12.399
And if you don't know Ben and you have.

1775
01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:16.199
Not disassembled, then you should be watching the animated series

1776
01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:19.520
and learning who this character is. And the animated series

1777
01:45:19.600 --> 01:45:24.960
is great. It's so don't be afraid of it. Dive deep,

1778
01:45:25.479 --> 01:45:26.920
live long, and prosper.

1779
01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:30.000
And similarly, Paul, if you have not watched a lot

1780
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:33.760
of enterprise, as some folks I know have not watched

1781
01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:38.359
a lot. You might not know that this book is

1782
01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:42.680
of course from the Star Trek Enterprise episode the seventh

1783
01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:46.159
that Paul is carrying, and it's a physical book from

1784
01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:50.279
Vulcan that she keeps with her while she's on the Enterprise.

1785
01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:53.720
So it's a little bit of a kind of sentimental reminder.

1786
01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:57.479
It's a little bit of her like Vulcan emotions sort

1787
01:45:57.520 --> 01:45:59.600
of coming through that she still has this book with

1788
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:00.319
her right now.

1789
01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:03.800
Nice, Okay, very cool. I need to go back in

1790
01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:05.960
there and watch some more Enterprises because every time I

1791
01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:08.359
watch one that you recommend, it's amazing. So a lot

1792
01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:10.760
of good stuff in there. I think it's a join

1793
01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:12.880
kind of a little bit of a resurgence right as

1794
01:46:12.880 --> 01:46:13.680
people discover it.

1795
01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:20.079
And and there was that news story about what's his name,

1796
01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:25.159
Jonathan Archer Dracula wanting to get back into the game.

1797
01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:30.479
So you know, did you say count Dracula, Count Dracula Scott.

1798
01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:37.920
So I just want to know, yes, yes, I know

1799
01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:39.039
you were talking about me.

1800
01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:39.479
Eric.

1801
01:46:39.680 --> 01:46:42.760
I have not watched Enterprise. I can't get past that

1802
01:46:42.920 --> 01:46:54.039
dreadful theme song you know, had no I need to

1803
01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:57.960
find out about this to Paul and whatever Gel or

1804
01:46:58.000 --> 01:46:58.920
maybe I don't want to know.

1805
01:46:59.000 --> 01:46:59.479
I don't know.

1806
01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:03.000
It's one. Listen, it's one. I don't want you to.

1807
01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:05.640
It's like form your opinions of the show based on

1808
01:47:05.640 --> 01:47:08.319
one episode where they have to decontaminate on another.

1809
01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:15.439
That's a heavy spoiler alert the reference and they referenced that,

1810
01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:17.560
didn't they reference that in lower decks?

1811
01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:22.640
I think, Oh, I'm sure they did. It's it's.

1812
01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:29.760
It's like a very weirdly sexy and just strange scene.

1813
01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:34.279
I can imagine. Yeah, between that and this, this them

1814
01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:38.159
character and soci the Noodley arms, I just I just

1815
01:47:38.279 --> 01:47:39.159
lost this so.

1816
01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:48.920
Homework? What what a what a great segue, because don't.

1817
01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:49.039
You have.

1818
01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:56.720
Yes, the best part about watching Enterprise is I're not

1819
01:47:56.800 --> 01:47:58.399
going to tell you any more than that you got

1820
01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:02.199
to watch and find out how Balk fits in Paul's

1821
01:48:02.279 --> 01:48:04.000
family line. I don't want to spoil it for you.

1822
01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:12.560
Yeah, well you turned her off, Jim.

1823
01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:20.920
Yeah, my internet has just been like flaking out here

1824
01:48:23.079 --> 01:48:25.359
a couple of times. But let me get through this

1825
01:48:26.119 --> 01:48:28.920
as quickly as I can without see if I can

1826
01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:30.159
do it without cracking up.

1827
01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:31.279
Uh.

1828
01:48:31.359 --> 01:48:34.960
So beloved star trek Alone feels the time is right

1829
01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:40.079
to reprise iconic role. Nearly a decade has passed since

1830
01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:44.520
the last installment from J. J. Abrams Star Trek reboot

1831
01:48:44.680 --> 01:48:47.880
series hit theaters, and the actor who took over the

1832
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:53.159
role of mister Spock from Leonard Nimoy and absolutely sanctioned

1833
01:48:53.199 --> 01:48:57.760
by Leonard Nimoy, as I recall, is ready to put

1834
01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:02.159
his vulcan ears, bangs and trademark blue uniform on again.

1835
01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:06.199
While appearing on Today to promote the debut of NBC's

1836
01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:12.319
medical drama Brilliant Minds season two, Zachary Quinto was asked

1837
01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:16.680
by renowned weatherman and TV personality Al Roker if there's

1838
01:49:16.720 --> 01:49:20.239
a chance of reuniting with Abrams on a Star Trek four.

1839
01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:25.920
Quinto responded by saying, Al, you know what, get him

1840
01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:28.560
on the phone. Let's do this. I feel like it

1841
01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:32.479
would be It's a great time. It's been ten years

1842
01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:36.159
since the last film. We all love each other, we

1843
01:49:36.279 --> 01:49:39.039
have a great time making these movies. I think we'd

1844
01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:42.239
all love to come back together and tell one more.

1845
01:49:42.960 --> 01:49:46.079
I think fans would be really excited by it, and

1846
01:49:46.159 --> 01:49:48.279
I think the time is right. If you ask me,

1847
01:49:49.279 --> 01:49:52.000
I was in touch with him about something else recently

1848
01:49:52.119 --> 01:49:55.159
and floated it out there that.

1849
01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:58.000
I think we lost Oh no, I'm here.

1850
01:49:58.119 --> 01:50:00.920
Oh no, oh can you hear me?

1851
01:50:01.520 --> 01:50:04.640
Noe? Yes, maybe I hear her, I hear it.

1852
01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:04.920
Yeah.

1853
01:50:04.920 --> 01:50:07.199
You just have to be patient because remember her recording

1854
01:50:07.239 --> 01:50:08.840
will come through later. So even if we can't hear

1855
01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:09.119
it live.

1856
01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:14.079
Okay, all right, I'm almost done here. Okay, let's see.

1857
01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:18.119
So fans would be really excited the time is right. Uh,

1858
01:50:18.279 --> 01:50:21.279
there's the possibility, But I feel like there's always the

1859
01:50:21.359 --> 01:50:27.399
possibility for years. There's been there's scripts circulating, there's directors attached,

1860
01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:29.479
you know. I think we just need to look at

1861
01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:33.319
to lock it down and clear our schedules. Let's do it.

1862
01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:37.079
Star Trek four sounds like a good idea in theory,

1863
01:50:37.239 --> 01:50:41.199
so the series can finally get back on track. However,

1864
01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:45.359
it will be bittersweet without Anton Yelchin's mister Chekhov in

1865
01:50:45.399 --> 01:50:54.600
the mix, following the actor's untimely death back in twenty sixteen. Right,

1866
01:50:54.680 --> 01:50:55.079
that's it.

1867
01:50:56.119 --> 01:51:03.159
That is that we made it. We made it, and Paul, Paul,

1868
01:51:03.239 --> 01:51:03.880
you made it.

1869
01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:07.960
We got to give up. If listeners don't know what

1870
01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:09.479
we're talking about, I just have to say, we have

1871
01:51:09.520 --> 01:51:12.800
to give up. A giant collective Kudos to a chief

1872
01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:17.039
engineer David here tonight because this is the first week

1873
01:51:17.680 --> 01:51:21.199
in months that I have not been summarily multiple times

1874
01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:26.600
ejected the various torpedo tubes of the show thanks to

1875
01:51:27.199 --> 01:51:33.359
David's scrolling through various Jeffreys tubes and scanning things to

1876
01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:36.880
figure out why the hell I kept having launched me

1877
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:41.439
off of So it was through the whole thing, made

1878
01:51:41.439 --> 01:51:44.319
some adjustments to the app, and able to do a show,

1879
01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:47.840
not a single disconnect, So I really appreciate it, David.

1880
01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:50.399
Not an easy thing, especially given how much it.

1881
01:51:54.399 --> 01:51:54.720
Very well.

1882
01:51:57.920 --> 01:52:00.399
I think we need these applause on a regular basis.

1883
01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:12.359
That's all that the Democrats retained. Everyone will get tens for.

1884
01:52:12.359 --> 01:52:19.359
Everyone, unlimited Astromian my swords, free Idach coin to wear

1885
01:52:19.399 --> 01:52:24.239
around your neck, and all right, Uncle Jim as the floor,

1886
01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:25.439
Uncle Jim tickets.

1887
01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:30.199
Yeah, I think I think that, Uh, you know, David

1888
01:52:30.199 --> 01:52:34.039
did an excellent job. I've been sending him things from riverside.

1889
01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:39.520
They've been making suggestions and uh thirty two digit audio

1890
01:52:39.520 --> 01:52:42.479
clips and all this other stuff. But I think I

1891
01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:46.840
think we got you back on track, Paul, so welcome back. Man.

1892
01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:49.800
It was it was great, So it's nice to not

1893
01:52:49.920 --> 01:52:52.279
be able to you know, just you know, no, not

1894
01:52:52.399 --> 01:52:54.479
worry about stuff. It's great just to be able to

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just get in there and talk about stuff. Right, This

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is such a pleasure.

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So you weren't even uh, you wouldn't even glittery at all.

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I actually heard every word you said instead of every

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tenth word.

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So yeah, so so we we made some adjustments a

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lot of research to figure it out, so uh.

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David to man, so appreciate it, brother, So you'll be

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ready to go all right? Yep, all right, guys. Well

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that wraps up our podcast for this week. Next week

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we're going to be doing con episode two, so please

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check that out. I'll get a link up on our

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Facebook page so you guys can listen to it as well.

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So I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim saying everybody

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please stay safe and be good to each other, and

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remember Star Trek fans are the best fans. Live long

1911
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and prosper, and good night everybody.

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Good night, y'all, live long and prosper.

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All Ready for departure, sir, hm, some problem riker, just

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hoping this isn't the usual way our missions will go.

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So oh no, number one, I'm sure most will be

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much more interesting. Let's see what's out there.

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Engage okay,