Sept. 28, 2025

Episode 655- Christine Horn (Bytha) SNW- Interview

Episode 655- Christine Horn (Bytha) SNW- Interview
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In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, host Uncle Jim and co-hosts engage in a lively discussion with Christine Horn, who portrays the Klingon character Bytha in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. The conversation covers Horn's journey from auditioning for the role to the challenges of embodying a Klingon, including the extensive makeup process and learning the Klingon dialect. Horn shares insights into her character's development, the intensity of filming, and her hopes for future appearances. The episode also touches on her personal life, including her passion for gardening and mentoring aspiring actors, highlighting the importance of community in the entertainment industry. In this episode, the hosts reflect on their engaging conversation with Christine Horn, share fan shout outs, remember notable Star Trek actors, celebrate upcoming birthdays, and discuss the latest news in the Star Trek universe. The camaraderie among the hosts and their connection with the audience is evident throughout the episode, highlighting the vibrant Star Trek community.

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Well, good evening, Treki's and Trekkers around the globe. It

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is Thursday night, September twenty fifth, twenty twenty five. Welcome

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to episode six hundred and fifty five of trek Talking

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and Beyond. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Welcome

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to the podcast. We have a great show playing for

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you guys tonight. But before we go too far, I

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want to introduce my awesome co host.

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We have Eric. Eric's out in Portland. How you doing tonight? Eric?

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You know what Jim like. Honestly, I'm feeling a little

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under siege tonight. I mean, first, my escalator stopped on

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the way up to my office this morning, and then

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my telep prompter went out during my big presentation, and

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then my audio cut out during the parts where I

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was really getting the whining. So I mean, I don't

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think it's coincidence. I think it's triple sabotage. You know,

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three very sinister events right in a row, and used

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to know that. I've actually already sent copies of my

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three hundred and fifty eight word complaint to the Secretary General,

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and I demand an immediate investigation. I mean, it's it's

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enough to give a guy a headache, which I used

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to take a seeau a cita. Well you understand, you know,

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the autism stuff. Yeah, I'm just kind of I'm just

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kind of happy to be here now.

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Yeah, the home, it's okay, come on, Grandpa.

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Yeah, you's got to go.

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It'll be okay. We'll get you your soup.

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Oh boy, oh brother. And also from Portland, we have

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our very own Paul the Toy Guy. How you tonight?

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Paul?

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I'm okay, I think so did you get stuck? You know,

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I stay off those things. I'm more of a climbing

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the rope guy. But but yeah, it's surreal times and

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I'm I'm excited to talk to uh for my money.

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One of the bright spots of season three of strange

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New Worlds and just mere moments.

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So kind of a moment the content of the old

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show tonight.

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Uncle Jim.

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It's gonna be fun, that's for sure. And sticking with Portland,

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we have our miracle worker David.

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How you doing tonight, David?

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You're very good?

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Uh, not as uh what to talk about, but you know,

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I'm glad to have Christine hold on with that show.

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Yeah, it's ben, It's gonna be fun. And not in Portland,

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but in Las Vegas we have Charles. How you doing tonight? Charles?

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Until Jim, glad our weather will will cool down soon

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so we can have weather like everybody else looking forward

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Here in Vermont, I heard the Rockies got some snow.

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We're just getting still in my heat.

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And the last but not least, we have Victoria's she's

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out in Virginia. How you doing tonight?

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B all right? Sarcastic folk con salute. Yeah, glad to

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be in the glad to be in the uh see

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what a strange new world is that? Twenty third century?

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I think so? Yeah, I Interestine, I'm a Historic Site

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interpret Colonial Williamsburg, where every day I speak the truth

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and the whole truth of our early American history to people,

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so which can be a challenge sometimes that it's I

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didn't realize how many history people are also I FI heard,

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So I span, I span the centuries.

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Wonderful, wonderful and as promised, guys, we have with us,

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live in the studio right here, well not live in

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the studio, but live with us, we have Christine Horne.

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She's appeared on series such as I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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try to make this brief, take a deep breath, The Originals, Mcgiver, Powerless, Ncis,

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American Crime Story, Timeless, The Haunting and Hill House, The

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Good Doctor, Letho, Weapon and Swat, just to name a few.

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So she's been around quite a bit. She started her

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own record label and production company and is also a

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coach to mentees in the Hollywood Bound Actors Virtual Community,

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believing in each other and eat each one, teach one.

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But but for us, we know her as that badass

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klingon Bytha from Star Trek's Strange New World's third season

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episode Shuttle to Confa And in case she didn't know,

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she's the honor seeking of Doc Ra from the season

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two Strange New World's episode Under the Cloak of War,

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and welcome to the show.

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Thank you, awesome tro and wonderful to meet all of you.

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Thank you so much.

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So I don't know where to start. First of all,

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I want to ask you. Were you a star Trek

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fan before you got the role to be a Klingon?

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I was not. However, I dedicated this episode to my

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now deceased husband, who, with him and his whole family

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were huge Trekkies. I mean uh, and so it was

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always something that was around me. I just it was

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one of those things I just never kind of got

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around to watching. And when I auditioned for I don't

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want to well, let me not jump ahead all. You

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may have questions about that later, but short answer is no.

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And but when I started to a deep dive, I

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grew a new appreciation for it.

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I will say that now.

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Luckily you sent us some pictures d and I wanted

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to which David is going to put up on the

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screen here in a second. While we talked, I wanted

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to ask you what the procedure was, what you went

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through to become Bifer.

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Well, well after I was cast. I had to actually

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get a life cast done. So that got done where

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I went to. Uh, I actually got it done in

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Atlanta because I was traveling at the time, and so

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I went to this gentleman's house who does this for

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all these productions. His studio him was So it was

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three people total. And there's a picture there I shared

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with you where I'm like in a bunch of green goop.

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Uh maybe I think it's an that fold. It's well,

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that's our that's our makeup guy, Chris. But there's a

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picture I may I have to share it to you

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another time. It was yeah, there it is. So that's

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the end, almost the end of the process. So this process,

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they had to do a life cast on me, so

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basically from midg top of the chest to the top

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of the head. Fun fact, I'm extremely claustrophobic, so this

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was extremely difficult process for me, but I just I

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breathed through it. But it was many layers of it

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felt like paper mache. For anyone who's ever made a

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paper mache project when you were a kid, that's what

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it felt like, except I'm the subject. So it's just

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layers and layers of gauze and water and all the

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stuff that they had to apply and then to make

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it pliable. This green lay was the last piece. After

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this piece, they covered my eyes since I was claustrophobic,

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I said, please wait to the very end, and so

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the last ten minutes were the most horrific for me.

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But they held my hand and I truly was just breathing.

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I was like to think about the big picture. You're

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gonna be on Star Trek. You're gonna be on Star Trek.

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But that was the I. In addition to that, I

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also had a mouth mold done. I guess similarly to

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is if you're getting dentures with this kind of yellow,

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gooey stuff to mold my teeth, and as you can see,

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my ears got molded too. So that was the first

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part of the process. They needed at least eight weeks

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or more to put everything together. And so what you're

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seeing here is my part of my morning routine, which

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was three hours of makeup every morning before my clock

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started to work. So my average workday was at least

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eighteen plus hours. That's me and my dressing room before

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they put the wig on. Sometimes I would ask them

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if I knew I wasn't gonna be shooting for a while.

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I would say, can you put the wig on later?

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But that's what the back is. You can see like

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the details. I was so impressed, Like this isn't just

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a picture like when you're staring, when you're in the mirror,

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you can't see where this, where it starts andwhere it ends.

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And my makeup artist, Chris was just amazing and so eat. Fun.

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Fact though, each in one of those pictures shows that

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me holding my face mold, but each day was a

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different mold, so it wasn't they didn't put it back on,

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so they are hearing back. I don't know if anybody

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else here's that. But then now it's gone. But each day,

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and that's why I have so many of my mannequin heads.

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I got to keep like eight of them. But I

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was like each day, so they came from Hollywood already

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on ahead, so each day they put in fresh one

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on and then taking it off took about forty minutes.

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But yeah, that was the process every day.

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Oh, in the episode you speak, did you have did

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you have to get coaching or did it just come

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natural to you.

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Natural you are a comedian, Absolutely not and I didn't

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even know. You know, when you audition for stuff like this,

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it's very top secret. You don't even even really know

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what it's for. They give you a a vibe, they

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give you a fake character, fake fake synopsis of what's happening.

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I guess to cat get the essence of an actor

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that they want. But so there was no talk of

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kling On or anything. I may I guess that might

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have been, but not until I got the script. I

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was booked and they were about to do a table

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read with the rest of the cast, and like it

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was like a day or two before and like, oh, yeah,

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here's the kling On words and here's a little recording

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for you to practice. I was like, what, So the

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first table read didn't go well? I think I had

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holme mono. Well, that's all I had was the word human.

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I figured that part out. But then once I got

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to Toronto where the show is filmed, I had time

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with the dialect coach several times a week on Zoom.

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Also when we as we were filming, the dialect coach

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was there on set with me, uh to give me

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tips to make adjustments. So yeah, that was it was intense.

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It was intense because any I'm sure all of you

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know who have probably studied kling On or maybe have

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it on Duolingo or practice. It's a quite challenging dialect

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for sure, especially when we add the layer of you know,

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an eighteen hour day, plus false teeth and you know,

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all the other elements.

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I actually saw the YouTube video that you did of

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that process of so that was that was really really neat.

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Yeah, I'm glad you got to see it. I had

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so much behind the scenes footage I had to wait.

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I mean, it took so long for this season to

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come out, the actor strikes and everything just being I

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was just happy that it actually came back around and

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everyone got to see it.

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I wanted to ask you about the whip scene. Yeah,

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so did how did that come about? And do you

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actually handle the whip?

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Great question? Uh, so that I will say, what's wrapped

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around my corset outfit is the actual whip and how

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they wanted it to appear once she got to that point.

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But and I though I rehearsed with a whip, well

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I had fight rehearsals with the whip. Sometimes when we

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actually filmed, there was no whip. It was just a piece.

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It was just the handle of the whip that was

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probably bigger than this scissor, and so it was very

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important for me to have rehearsals with a whip coach

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and with my fight and stunt coordinators to know what

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the weight of that whip really would feel like so

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when they came in CGI later it would be realistic.

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So on the day, yeah, that whip was not there,

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just me holding it and having the energy in my

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body to move it correctly. That's a wonderful shot though,

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I love it so much.

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It's so bad aspect there.

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Yeah, you are a badass quan On for sure. More

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question and I'll pass you on over to Paul. I

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wanted to know, are we gonna see maybe a zombie

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version of you come back later? Are you actually dead

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or are you still out there somewhere?

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I you know, I don't know, you know, especially with

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the show going away, you know right start, you know,

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changing worlds. They they're on their last season, so I

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don't know anything, but I'm always hopeful, you know, for

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another opportunity. But you know, they kind of left it open,

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you know, at a at a glance, you see me

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being toppled and you know, being taken care of by

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all those zombies. But there's the reach for the flower,

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the camera flower for some hope. But we'll see, we'll see.

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I feel like she she'd be pissed if she came

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back into zombie like. That's not that was not the point.

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No, no, all right, well I'm gonna I'm gonna pass

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the microphone over to Paul Hi.

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Paul Hi, Christine. It is a treat to have you here.

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You're just you did a phenomenal, phenomenal job.

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In this role.

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I just have to say, I have seen your work

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before on a show that I don't know if all

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of our treks perts have or not.

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A snowfall.

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Yeah yeah, oh my god, amazing.

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I mean amazing. I mean great show, great show, but

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you really stand.

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Out for it.

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I'll tell you that very very But you know, I

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mean on Star Trek, like you get Klingons all the time,

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coming here and there from one franchise to another, you know,

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and like the heyday of Star Trek, the.

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Next generation, you get Klingons all the time, right, And

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I just have to say, I think when you came

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on the screen it was like we had never seen

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the energy level like you displayed before it was new.

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I felt like you brought such fresh is to me,

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like best I don't know what other trexports thing, but

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best Klingon since Gora, right, I mean, which is you know,

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the be all and end all of great Klingon performances,

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And I just I don't know what it is. Amazing, friend,

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you were incredible, and I would thank you to find

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out as an actor because especially where you kind of

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copped earlier, they're like, you're not like really coming into

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this thing as a big star trek man, like not enormously.

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So how did you start building the character? Did you

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just watch a lot of old episodes and you talked

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to other characters who played or other actors who played

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them before? What was what was your process? How'd you

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build such a great character?

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Thank you so much and thank you for for appreciating it,

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all of you. I love the Trekspert. I love that

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the phrase. You know, I just treated her as I

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do any other character on any other show. For me,

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it's always about what's the truth of this character, what

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is what's the driving force for them? So yes, I

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had to I actually let go of in the beginning,

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let go of the fact that she was a Klingon

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and this was sci fi and start like just not

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at the root of this. She's a woman who has

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an issue with her father, and and there's there's this,

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there's there's there's history there, there's pain there and then

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of course adding on tradition. So that is where when

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I once I was booked, I did a deep dive

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between YouTube and just watching so many videos, watching oh

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old Star Trek, watching of course binging strains and worlds.

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Were just wanting to see. I wanted to find my

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physicality also as a Klingon because I saw so much

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with some of the older stuff. It was very like

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wow and like you know, like glasses hitting the floor

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and just like just surround like this barbaric energy, which

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I was like, okay, yes, And but I was like,

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this is a woman who's who's in the hierarchy here?

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And how does she operate and how does she represent

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herself and owning her power and demanding respect? So why

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does she carry herself? Like so all that was very

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important to me, and so it took me a while

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to find it. But I just all I did was

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watch Star Trek. So I just I just went so,

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and because even in my hotel room at night, I

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was in Toronto for at least almost two weeks before

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I filmed anything. It was just fight rehearsals and dialogue,

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dialect coaching and fittings. So I just had a lot

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of time to sit with it. So for me, that

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was my process, binging the content, connecting to what the

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world was. I had to make it true to me.

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I think when I was younger the reason why I

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didn't get into Star Trek. I had a hard time

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as a younger person find I need to find what

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feels real in my mind. I was like that found

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it feels so far away, like that would never happen.

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So I would like, I like sci Fi, Like all

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of a sudden, I wake up with the superpower. So

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I was like, well, how can I bring the grounded

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energy to this world and make it grounded for me

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and real for me? So that was a process that

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I eventually came into. And then being on set once

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I got to see the stages in Toronto and feel

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where my world was, and oh my goodness, the room

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in which we had multiple sets, but the main room

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where they do a lot of the outer worldly other

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the other world. It's this huge room with just screens

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all around, so everything feels so magical. And so even

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as an actor doing this very very long time, going

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onto a set or onto a stage, it's a sound stage,

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is still I transport. I'm no longer on a stage.

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I'm in the world. And so once I saw my

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ship and then my costumes and then zombies, it just

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became so real and that's what you get. And for me,

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fighting for this this respect was just paramount. And then

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working with in Benga Babs the actor, he's so grounded,

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so rooted, and as as with Anson is so it

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made it also just easy to be in the moment

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and be true. So long answer, but I get very

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passionate about it, but that's what it was.

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Yeah, it's great, and you had such a cool art

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that you know, got conveyed so so quickly, right, and

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so you come in and you're basically trying to find out.

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You know, who's respect.

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You're initially you're trying to like settle things with your

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dad and then you find out, well, he's gone.

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I don't get to have that.

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I can't reckon accounts the way Klingon honor demands me too.

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But and then you find out, oh, this guy, my Benga,

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he like took that away from me, and honor now

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demands that you kill him.

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And it's just this great you know, I mean, one

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of the Klingons, but.

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Like space Vikings, right, they're just all like you know,

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driven by you know, honor and vengeance and getting you know,

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to the higher realms after you die. I mean, it's

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just great. But it was such a I just how

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you conveyed so much of that in such a brief

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amount of time and made it compelling and h and

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just a sense of her having a justice been stolen

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from her and there was just nothing was going to

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get in her way to get that back. Even though

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you could maybe respect my Benga, you had to do

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what you had to do to you know, reclaim your honor.

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And it was you conveyed a lot of frustration and

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and you know, just angst at the situation you found

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yourself in, but like your society wouldn't.

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Let you get past that, you had to do it.

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And I just thought it was just brilliant. I thought

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it was just really compelling. I'm going to go on

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record is saying.

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I really, really really, really really really hoped that there's

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like an NDA out there that you just don't want

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to talk about.

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And that that that.

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You did not succumb to the zombies, because to create

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such a great cling on character and then be done

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with them so quickly, I'm ready for like a Captain

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byThe a TV show. Frankly, I would I would tune

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into that shit every week. I mean, you're just ferocious

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and compelling and cool and there's just no getting around it.

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So can you give us a hint about what you

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got coming next? Where are we going to see you

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next in your next role?

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Well, first of all, thank you for all of that,

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and I received that. I and you know, Star Trek

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was really the manifestation of a dream from a year

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from two years ago. I wanted to do more action

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and sci fi and while I this came and God

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blessed me with this. For me, what's coming up next?

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When I've most recently finished, There's a new show coming

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to Netflix top of twenty six starring Burt comedian Burt Kreischer,

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and the show is called free Bert. Totally different as

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a single camera comedy, and I play a headmaster of

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a school. So it should be a lot of laughs,

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so good, total opposite of kling On World. But that's

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what I'll be doing next.

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Cool such range you have, it's just crazy out.

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But try to keep.

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Keeper in science fiction and fantasy for us, friend, because

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I just think you're amazing and you're you're a powerhouse.

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But just thanks for.

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Making you know, such a great moment.

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That's a really cool character.

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You're gonna get fan fiction to death by the community.

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They're going to just do bite the stories like crazy.

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So but that's what I predicted. Enough of my app

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and who's taking the chair next.

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Buddy, Well let's see, how about the He had a

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couple of questions.

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Yes, Well, first off, I just want to offer my

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condolences to you at the loss of your husband.

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Oh thank you.

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But the fact that I think that's a there's a

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gift that he and his family gave you, that you

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knew about Star Trek and you dedicated this to him,

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So that just that really gets that really gets to

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me because my for my husband passed away a couple

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of years ago. We weren't married at the time, but

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he because I've been in and out of Star Trek

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through the years, raising my kids and all that, and

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I was reluctant to watch anything besides the original series

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because I was a purist, you know. And he got

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me into Voyager and so I love that. And I

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was able to achieve a dream and meet Kate Maule

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grew a couple of weekends ago, so that was fantastic.

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But no, that energy, that dedication and energy you definitely

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brought to Bitha, Oh my goodness. And I have an

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acting background. I just wish you had been my friend.

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When I was in college and my parents. I went

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to BCU, I was a theater major, and my parents

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convinced me that I would never go anywhere with my degree.

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And you know, when you're ninete, teen, twenty, you don't

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know so. But I've done stuff off and on throughout

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the years. But I'm just so inspired by everything Star

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Trek and inspired by you because you're you're this virtual

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community where you're giving What really got me again was

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you're giving back to the community that has blessed you

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beyond measure. That just jumped out at me, and you know,

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just got me kind of choked up a little bit

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because really and truly, in the scope of things, you know,

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if you're blessed like that, you give back and that's

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what you're doing. Not everybody does that. Yeah, so yeah,

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and I'm just uh, I also like that you are

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a booking magnet? Can you Can you explain that just

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to Tempit?

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Yeah?

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Absolutely? My sign behind me and I even I even

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because I keep it behind. This is my live corner.

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I do lives. So I even have a book called

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Playing Small, The Actor's Guide to Becoming a Booking Magnet.

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I'm a student of law of attraction. I believe that

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you know, what we attract, right, what we think about,

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we bring about. And so in my studies over the years,

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I was just like, well, if I attract money and

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people and experiences, and well I can attract bookings, I'm

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a magnet. I'm magnetic, you know. So then I was like,

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I'm a booking magnet. So it just became this affirmation

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in this way of life for me. And so I

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was like, well, if I'm a booking magnet, well what

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does that mean and how do I operate? It means

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I attract bookings to me. If I'm not booking roles,

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I'm booking rooms, I'm making memorable moments, you know, I'm

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doing my best work. You know, I'm attracting like all

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that I say that I am. You know, my standard

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is excellence in all that I do. So that's what

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that's about for me. And it's just about just being

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so aware of what I put out into the world.

474
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.079
See how I speak about myself, how I speak about

475
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.680
my career, how I speak about my craft, how I

476
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:58.240
love on myself, my worth, all of that. You know,

477
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:02.440
this industry as an actor is challenging webs and there's

478
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.359
so many opportunities to doubt ourselves and wonder if we're

479
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:09.559
good enough. And so the script that you repeat to

480
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:11.759
yourself over and over again is the most important one.

481
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.799
So that's been my mission, not only to speak like

482
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.960
to myself, but to my community of actors.

483
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.480
Well, when you said that, you know, the thing about

484
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.200
law of attraction, I got chills because I have recently

485
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.279
gotten into that because I've been sort of in a

486
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.720
rut for a number of years and just this year

487
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:31.200
started to open up get back into Star Trek. Going

488
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.079
to New Jersey was a huge thing for me to do,

489
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:38.160
but I did it, and so I'm I'm yeah, I'm

490
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:42.000
considering myself in transitions. So I might have to reach

491
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:47.519
out to you with this this virtual community because I

492
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:51.160
was talking with talking about the difficulties in Hollywood. I

493
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:53.599
was talking with Nana Visitor, you know, as you do

494
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:59.119
about the difficulties because in Hollywood there's always the agism problem.

495
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.720
And even where I work, there is, you know, with

496
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.640
the actors that portray historic figures, and there's like an

497
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:12.680
agism thing too. So it's it's one of those things

498
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.920
where I think, I mean, you do what you can,

499
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:19.680
but that I think having that faith and that law

500
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.880
of attraction on your side, that that's got to help.

501
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.000
So yeah, but I think I think I might because

502
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.400
I'm I'm I'm feeling a shift in my whole being.

503
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.799
So I just thank you for for that, so you

504
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.440
might hear back from me.

505
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:36.160
Welcome.

506
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.079
Yeah, but again, thank you for that awesome performance by

507
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.960
the just was like Jim said, Uncle Jim said, badass,

508
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:46.200
bad to the bone.

509
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:48.799
Yes, thank you.

510
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.200
She was awesome for sure. And I think I think

511
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.440
David might have a question, right David.

512
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.400
Yeah, yeah, Hi, welcome to the show.

513
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:03.559
Thank you, David.

514
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.440
So I just had a quick question.

515
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.960
About another show that you were on called The Good Doctor,

516
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:18.680
and I was wondering if you, uh, like, how was

517
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.640
it working with Freddie high hide Born or.

518
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:26.039
Yeah?

519
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.680
It was awesome. He was a joy work with, very

520
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:34.400
easy going, very friendly, you know, funny. My brain is

521
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:36.079
going back to some long days where we got the

522
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:40.119
giggles and just started laughing. He's just one of those, uh,

523
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.839
just kind, super talented, grounded actors. It was so it

524
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:49.559
was great working with him, very easy, effortless. Yeah, one

525
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:51.880
of my one of my favorite. I don't have a

526
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.640
I don't have a lot of bad stories. Definitely, some

527
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:57.599
people are nicer than others, and he was one of those.

528
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.279
I was just very warm. He's just one of those

529
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.119
people who you know, like you if you piss him off,

530
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.720
you've done something really bad, it's it's it's you probably.

531
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.440
Probably cool. No, that's awesome.

532
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.960
So my next question for you would be you mentioned

533
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.519
that you have phobia for claustrophobia and stuff like that.

534
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.640
Do you have any trible phobia since.

535
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:28.759
I knew nothing of before. Uh, my husband Garland trouble

536
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.599
with tribles or something with tribles like troubles would he

537
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.559
would have those references and it would go over my

538
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:36.119
head and he's like, I'm just gonna play the video

539
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:40.400
for you. Then he's like, so now none of no,

540
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.400
no trible, okay, thankful cool.

541
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:47.559
I wanted to ask you what it would like to

542
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:52.839
play a cleanon and Star Trek. I mean, I know

543
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:54.799
that you talked a lot about it already with uh

544
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.440
Gem and everybody, but I was just wondering if there

545
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.599
was any other pouch that you might or to share

546
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.480
that like maybe behind the change that you might have

547
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:05.960
found that was like super funny that you could share.

548
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:17.200
I think the biggest because of like the just having

549
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:20.960
the teeth and the weight of the hair and the

550
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:27.119
weight of the clothes like just impacts just everything. I'm

551
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:32.079
a very graceful person. I'm you know, five nine, but

552
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.839
where heels, I'm six foot. I took dance class, so

553
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.640
I'm used to walking very great posture. But everything in

554
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.200
the from the clothing and the choices and the weight,

555
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.400
just and thinking about the world that the Klingons are

556
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.119
living in just brings this extra weight. So it was

557
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.440
a lot of fun just again finding that physicality, but

558
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:54.680
you felt it all day. And also she's you know,

559
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.519
these are not just prim proper people, Like yes, I

560
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:01.039
wasn't throwing beer bottles on the ground and renting. But

561
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:05.039
that is part of you know, part of me and

562
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.160
part of who we come from, and so that is

563
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:08.519
a part of that. I'm sure I have we seen

564
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:12.119
Baitha at a bar or you know, hanging out with friends,

565
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.400
you might see a different side of her. So that

566
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.000
made it pretty pretty interesting. And also also because I

567
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:24.680
had on prosthetics for about eighteen hours a day, it

568
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.680
just feels like it becomes a part, just a part

569
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:32.559
of you, right, And that was interesting too. So it

570
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.599
definitely had this moment of when I finally had to

571
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.279
take it off of like truly shedding skin and putting

572
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.920
on these layers. Another fun fact, you know, you kind

573
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.000
of feel trapped as the character too in a way

574
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.079
because the clothing conveniently doesn't you can't get out of

575
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.440
that outfit alone, Like it takes two people to dress me.

576
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.720
So there's like under armour, just under armour, long sleeve shirt,

577
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.680
under armour pants. Then there's like these custom made thingies

578
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.759
with suspenders, and then there's like this jacket. It's kind

579
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:05.200
of like a straight jacket you put you put it

580
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.519
on from behind, someone has the zippy up from the back,

581
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.079
and then there's the gold like armor plate thing. One

582
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.839
part goes across the chest and then another part goes

583
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.200
over your head, and then it goes over your shoulders

584
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.000
and then they're putting them on. So it's just like

585
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:19.319
there's no like quick, hey, I have to go to

586
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.160
the bathroom quick, like you have to like plan I've

587
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:26.240
had tensips of water. Right, But even just all of

588
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:29.559
that commitment again, I used it as an actor like,

589
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:34.079
this is how I commit to my existence. I'm willing

590
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.160
to put this on. We don't just put on you know,

591
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.039
shirts and jeans, right, you know, it's like this is

592
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.240
my armor. This is how we protect ourselves and how

593
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.200
we battle, and so all that felt really cool too,

594
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.640
just again just added layers to the character and just

595
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.240
how I existed in the world, which was a lot

596
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:52.519
of fun.

597
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.200
Word that sounds like a lot of.

598
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:00.880
That's the part of acting. People. You know, people see

599
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:03.160
red carpets and oh you're on TV. All cool, But

600
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.359
there's a lot of work. You know, a lot of

601
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.559
mental work, staying focused of course, learning your lines, and

602
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.679
staying awake and being present and giving all that you got.

603
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.840
But you know, gosh, in those moments where you get

604
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.880
tired or it's been a long day, but always I'm

605
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.360
always reminded of this is something my boyfriend. My boyfriend

606
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.760
now says to me. He says, Christine, you are enshrined,

607
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:31.400
And I don't take that lightly, you know, like to

608
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:34.599
be I'm gonna speak frankly. To be a black woman

609
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.320
in a role like this is huge, and I know

610
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.519
I can only imagine. I remember walking to the fitting

611
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:46.119
the first day and seeing the the sketch of this

612
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:50.199
character and being like, gosh, some young woman or some

613
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.119
grown woman is gonna look and be inspired and see

614
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.239
like this this opportunity that existed, and know that that's

615
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:02.239
possible even think beyond I Really that is the way

616
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.119
that I don't take for granted art, you know, And

617
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.280
that's why I love I love connecting with this this

618
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.840
the fans, the fans and the trekky is because it's

619
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.119
like as much as people want to say, oh, you

620
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.400
know sci fi, Oh we're sci fi nerves, we're geeking,

621
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.719
you no, like like you're passionate, Like you found something

622
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.960
that and you like took the time to you take

623
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.119
the time to research it and dissect it. Like as artists,

624
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.039
we appreciate that that you will even the writers appreciate

625
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.559
that you're dissecting the scripts and dissecting the language, we're

626
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.760
dissecting the performances. It makes it worth it because there's

627
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:36.679
so many things that we do that people never see

628
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.039
or care to even know deeper about.

629
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:44.079
So yeah, wow, that's that's amazing. Thank you for sharing.

630
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.000
Yeah, I say real quank you. I'm sorry. I was

631
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:51.000
going to say real quick. You have inspired me more

632
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.400
than I can express right now.

633
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.000
Oh wow, Well, God's wonderful.

634
00:35:58.239 --> 00:35:59.159
Thank you.

635
00:35:59.119 --> 00:35:59.639
You're us.

636
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:07.239
I think I think that would be Charles Hey, Charles hey, Charles.

637
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:11.639
Okay, thank you, jam thank you Christine. Uh you start

638
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:17.239
to talk about the process of getting the role and

639
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:22.440
the table read. I'd love to hear more about that story.

640
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:24.239
Oh wonderful.

641
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:24.440
Yeah.

642
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:26.400
I was trying not to jump ahead of myself, right.

643
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.840
I did share my audition for this on my Instagram,

644
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.159
so you're welcome to watch that and your viewers hopefully

645
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.320
we'll go to my instagram and watch it. But it

646
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.960
was one of those auditions that was a top secret

647
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.440
code name for the show. They don't even tell you

648
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:42.760
what the show is called. You kind of guess me

649
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:44.400
and my agents kind of guessed it might be for

650
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.639
Star Trek. We were right, but they give you the

651
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.119
you know, they gave me this this I forgot what

652
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.760
her name was, rock It was something like rock something,

653
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.679
but it basically described the energy of her like that

654
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.840
she was sad ass and she was you know, loyal,

655
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.840
all this stuff. And I had a great audition that

656
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.800
I did. Hear my in my home in front of

657
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.039
my great backdrop, but it came to the park with

658
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:12.199
the knife. I had a real knife because I keep knives.

659
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.079
Oh that's when I'm you know, keep them around the house.

660
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:14.519
Why not.

661
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.559
From my husband who was you know, ex marine, so

662
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:26.719
you know, knives everywhere. So so yeah, that audition is

663
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.800
on my Instagram if anyone wants to see it. And

664
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:32.679
it was a while before I found out that I

665
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.599
booked it, and then fun fact, I booked it, and

666
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.719
then the strikes happened, and so it wasn't until it

667
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.559
was easily a year later before we actually filmed it.

668
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.559
We didn't actually film my episode till January of last year,

669
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:49.719
twenty twenty four, and then yes in Toronto and with

670
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.960
the first table read was a virtual table read. That's

671
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.480
how we do the table reads now, especially post COVID

672
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.719
and it was so cool to see Young Spock and

673
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:02.719
the Then when I got to set the first time

674
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.639
and they were doing the makeup tests on me, I

675
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.000
got to go on the ship and like meet them,

676
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:08.760
like this is so cool. You know, I think you

677
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.960
have one of the pictures. I'm standing with the writer

678
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:13.079
and the director of the episode.

679
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:13.679
Uh.

680
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.960
That's where I wasn't in costume, but I did have

681
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.920
my prosthetics on. And that was that my first day.

682
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.920
Everybody saw Bitha for the first time. So everybody even

683
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:25.840
you know, to see young Spock looking at me like wow.

684
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.360
Ethan was like this is cool. I'm like, you look cool.

685
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:29.920
You know.

686
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:32.159
So it was a lot of fun.

687
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:42.039
You've got a pretty extensive list of IMDb's What were

688
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.079
a couple of your favorite roles you did any stories

689
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.960
that go with those roles? Oh?

690
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:55.519
Man, ah, so many. I'm trying my brain now is

691
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:59.159
trying to see my own credits. But I would say

692
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:03.320
one show that was the most memorable was Timeless, show

693
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.159
that was on NBC. Even I played Harriet Tubman. You know,

694
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.360
so you talk about an American hero. That for me

695
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.760
was a big graduation moment for me in my career.

696
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.159
Was like my largest guest star role at the time,

697
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.039
and such an honor to join the ranks of women

698
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.400
who have played Harriet Tubman and to do it on television.

699
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.320
And that role is pretty cool because I'll go speak

700
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.199
at schools and things like that, and there'll be a

701
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.679
lot of young people who say, we watched Timeless in school.

702
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.039
We watched that episode the general and we learned a lot,

703
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.559
and so that that was a lot of fun.

704
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:37.039
I think.

705
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:41.320
On the total flip side of that, I did a

706
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.719
show called Black Mafia Family where I played a role

707
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:47.360
called Mabel and she was a homewrecker, just a messy homewrecker.

708
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.440
And that was fun too, just because the Internet hated me,

709
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.440
but the role was a lot of fun. Got a

710
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.519
lot of hate mail, but the role was fun. I

711
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.480
just loved waiting to pretend, you know, I'm doing this

712
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.440
since I was a kid, and the fact that I

713
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.000
get to put on wigs and costumes and make up

714
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:11.440
and it's just a dream come true. I mean, I think, honestly,

715
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.039
I don't get tired of it. It's still all fresh

716
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.320
and new to me. I'm so grateful for it all.

717
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:19.920
As I talk about auto racing, I don't care if

718
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.679
they're cheering or booing as long as I can hear them.

719
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:27.159
Yes, I love that, exactly, exactly.

720
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.519
Pass it over to Eric. Thank you.

721
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:38.679
Yeah, Christine last banal least here. I Yeah, So I

722
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:41.639
have a couple of quick acting related questions and then

723
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:46.159
it's sort of non acting related questions. So I was looking,

724
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.760
of course at your IMDb and I noticed that you

725
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:55.159
it's kind of you consider the achievement of your dream,

726
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:58.159
of your early dreams to be performing in The Lion

727
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.519
King on that way, And I'd love to know more

728
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.320
about that, because I've seen that show twice already and

729
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.480
it's I mean, it's one of the greatest, you know,

730
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.400
on stage performances that's out there, I think. And so

731
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:12.599
what did you do and what was that like?

732
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:13.320
Really?

733
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.400
Really it really was remind me with City.

734
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:15.800
Or in again.

735
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:17.639
I'm in Portland, Oregon.

736
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.360
Okay, I didn get to go to Portland. I was

737
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.679
trying to see what year. Well, yeah, Lion King was awesome.

738
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:26.920
I went to an open call one day in two

739
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:30.800
thousand and three in Atlanta, Georgia, and it was for

740
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:34.559
The Lion King and another show called Aida at the time,

741
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:37.280
and it was a dual audition never heard anything from

742
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.559
the Lion King. Never I had a callback for Aita

743
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.880
and they even offered me a standby row, which I declined,

744
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:47.159
and out of the blue, three years later they called.

745
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.840
I was working my day job as a receptionist and

746
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:51.559
they're like, hey, can you come to New York for

747
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:56.079
a callback? And I was like, uh, you know, borrow

748
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:57.920
some money and get a plane ticket. I did that

749
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.400
and I went and I didn't book it. They said, hey,

750
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.599
you're next in line, and I was like, okay, whatever

751
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:05.880
that means. A month later, someone got, you know, an

752
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:09.000
injury and needed needed to and I was next to mine.

753
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.880
And I quit my job that day and I packed

754
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.679
my house up in a week. I went on the

755
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.719
road for on and off for five years. I got

756
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.320
to do the Broadway version of that company in two

757
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.119
thousand and eight. Once they invest in you and you're

758
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.199
good and they like you, they'll move you around as

759
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:33.000
their needs people, because especially for the ensemble the show,

760
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:35.679
your contract is just kind of open ended, you know.

761
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.000
So it was really amazing. So I got to play.

762
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.519
I started as an ensemble member with a Nala understudy,

763
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.480
and then I got like promoted to go to another

764
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.320
tour because back in the day they used to have

765
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.440
two North American tours that going at the same time,

766
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:52.840
just on two different coasts. And so then I went

767
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.159
to another tour and played Nala and then like, oh,

768
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:56.679
they like good job. And then so then I got

769
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.480
to go to Broadway in two thousand and eight and like, oh,

770
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.320
then I went to Vegas and did Mandalay Bay right

771
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:03.880
before the last few months before it closed. I got

772
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.719
to go to Mexico City and Honolulu in Germany, and

773
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.039
so it was such a gift. And once I feel

774
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:12.880
like I checked all the boxes, I moved on because

775
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:14.440
I knew I wanted to do film and TV. But

776
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.719
it was an amazing experience that I that I had.

777
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:19.480
I wouldn't trade it for anything else.

778
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:21.800
Well, I'm sorry that I didn't get to see you

779
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.880
in my city because I bet you would have totally

780
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:27.199
nailed it. And you know, even though Bitha the Klingon

781
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.440
was amazing, I haven't heard any singing from you yet,

782
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.880
and I'm sure that I would really enjoy that as well.

783
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:34.280
You can't.

784
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.960
You can't get in Line King without being a great singer.

785
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:41.039
That's exactly yeah, yeah, oh, that's fantastic. Well you know,

786
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:42.960
one of the other shows that I must admit is

787
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.760
one of my absolute guilty pleasures that you were in

788
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:48.519
three episodes of is Lincoln Lawyer.

789
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:49.960
Yeah, season one.

790
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.440
You know, I'm not even a lawyer show guy. I

791
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.760
like sci fi and I like a lot of different

792
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.079
types of but for whatever reason, that show really resonates

793
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.400
with me, and I just think Manuel Garcia is fantastic.

794
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.360
So what was that like working on that show? I mean,

795
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.079
I know it was only three episodes, so it wasn't

796
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.159
like a huge part of your career, but you have

797
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.280
any cool, like, you know, feelings or thoughts about that.

798
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.599
I was, again just I was happy to just be

799
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:18.639
on a David Kelly show, to be totally honest, And

800
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:25.920
I love the casting director, Wendy O'Brien, and that fun

801
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:31.880
fact about that show because that was my first lawyer

802
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.719
gig that I actually booked. I auditioned for many lawyers,

803
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.280
and I remember being on set and I was like,

804
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.119
I need like some I asked for a prop. I

805
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.400
need like something. This first time you meet me in

806
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:48.119
the courthouse, I was telling him about some case and

807
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.000
and I remember we were they were setting up the lights,

808
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:53.119
and I just was said to myself. I don't know

809
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:55.760
if anyone's ever watched you know TMZ but a hook

810
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:56.440
at the end, You're.

811
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:57.119
Like, I'm a lawyer.

812
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:05.719
Yes, yes, it's fantastic.

813
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.440
So many times over the years I object you're on

814
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:14.760
earth like just all I couldn't even take myself seriously

815
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:18.760
because I've been practicing so long most active practiced those

816
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:19.400
few lines.

817
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:20.719
I have just got to say it.

818
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.280
Oh, I just tickled myself, But it was That's what

819
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.679
I'm saying, Like, at this big age and stage, I

820
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:33.639
still am so grateful to do what I do, and

821
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:37.679
it's it's just so much fun. Yes, it's hard work

822
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.840
and long hours, and there's days where there's or years

823
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:44.480
where you're not working and it's so slow. But man,

824
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.639
when you you know as many things that I enjoy doing,

825
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.679
but moments like that, like I don't, it's just it

826
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.079
leaves me speechless. I just I love it so much.

827
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.280
So much, well, you know, I mean, I think as fans,

828
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.719
we kind of get into this space where we put

829
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.320
actors in a kind of like them sort of category.

830
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.519
And I love getting actors in an environment like this,

831
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:11.480
especially somebody like you who's so warm and inviting and

832
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.719
willing to talk about themselves because for me, it humanizes you, right,

833
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.360
It like brings you into the family, and you're like, oh,

834
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.159
she's just not up there on a pedestal somewhere. She's

835
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.199
just like a regular gal who likes doing what she's

836
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.960
doing and like actually gets thrilled by it every single

837
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.559
time she gets to do it, so exactly, I just

838
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.239
think that's really special. Okay, So slight pivot then away

839
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.079
from your acting career. I always like to ask our

840
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.800
guests about what they do outside of acting. This is

841
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:41.199
your job, and I'm sure that you love your job,

842
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.639
but you know, some people do music, some people do art,

843
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.119
some people read books. What do you like to do

844
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:48.039
in your spare time.

845
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:53.320
I love to garden. I'm a gardener, so just getting

846
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.360
in the dirt and growing wild flowers and vegetables and

847
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.039
herbs is my thing. I'm also a dog lover.

848
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:03.360
Many dogs on this podcast.

849
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:04.280
You know.

850
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:08.440
And you know, after my husband had passed, my dog

851
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.679
of seven years, my first dog ever, died from the

852
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.239
phonma two weeks after he did. So, I chose you.

853
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:15.039
I was done.

854
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:15.880
I was done.

855
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:18.159
And then so it took a while, but then about

856
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.079
a year or so later, I was like, it's time,

857
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.519
and then so I went to the shelters and rescued

858
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.800
a little Laurier mixed name Roomy. And then a few

859
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.400
months later I got him a big little brother German

860
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:34.079
shepherd puppy name of Apollo, so big dog lover. So

861
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.400
I have my company here and outside of that, I

862
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:41.039
love going to movies and listening to music. I do

863
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:46.440
sing as well. I love to write. And outside of that,

864
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.039
of course coaching, I coach and mentor other actors. I

865
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.559
have a whole community called Hollywood Found Actors, which I

866
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.440
just can't seem to stop doing. I feel like it's

867
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:57.159
a calling on me to do and to give back

868
00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.599
and to pour in and to be the coach that

869
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.559
I wish I had, so up a lot of time

870
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.559
mentoring or making TikTok videos or you know that kind

871
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.199
of thing. Just I can't help but be a bit

872
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:13.280
of a content creator and an educator. But I love

873
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.280
to create. I love to have fun, and I love

874
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.719
to like to cook also that's a lot of fun too,

875
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:18.679
and give back.

876
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.280
Many gardeners are very good cook so that does not

877
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:21.840
surprise me.

878
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.599
On it makes sense because I don't I'm a lousy

879
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.079
gardener and I'm allowsy cook.

880
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.119
Okay, I love dogs.

881
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:33.639
I have a rescue I have a rescue hound, so

882
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:35.079
I love dogs.

883
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.119
So wonderful, awesome.

884
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:41.039
Well, I'll just say that I really appreciate the fact

885
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.719
that you're so inspiring to lots of young women, lots

886
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.519
of young black women and other women of color. You're

887
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:49.679
also an inspiration to people who look like me. Man

888
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.239
Like the fact that you're out there doing the things

889
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.639
that you're doing and you're loving them and you're just

890
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:58.719
totally kicking as at them. It's just an inspiration to us. Also,

891
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.199
I'll just say thank you so much for joining us

892
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:04.320
on the on the podcast. I'm going to pass it

893
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:05.920
back to Uncle Jim. But it was just a real

894
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:07.079
pleasure to talk to you.

895
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.480
Thank you, thank you all great questions, everybody's great conversation.

896
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:13.880
So I had an idea for a new show. How

897
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:15.239
about Bitha as a lawyer.

898
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:21.559
There we go lawyer cling on lawyer.

899
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.079
She can say, she can say I'm a lawyer and

900
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.360
crack her on.

901
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:30.760
Somebody in the same.

902
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:35.599
I would love you.

903
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:36.800
Let's let's put.

904
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:40.599
Out show.

905
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.840
So I wanted to pivot back to Star Trek real quick.

906
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.719
So we're always hearing about how funny they are on

907
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.199
the cast, like Answer Mount in particular. So when you

908
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:56.559
were working on your zombie scenes with him and Babs,

909
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.000
was there any fooling around or jokes going on or

910
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:00.000
was it deadly seriou?

911
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:05.480
Actually not a lot, because our days were so long,

912
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:11.159
they were just everybody was just really focused to be

913
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:14.159
to be honest, and on the days we were filming,

914
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:18.639
there were all those zombies, all those all the stunt people.

915
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:22.079
It was a lot going on, right. It wasn't that

916
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.280
none of that is just like, oh we copied five

917
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.440
people and pasted them. No, it was a lot of people,

918
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.000
And so with that, it was just a lot of

919
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.599
focus because the days were very long and very trying.

920
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:36.400
So not saying that they're not, you know, but in

921
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:40.320
my experience they were focused. I was focused. You know. Also,

922
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:42.360
as you know, when you come in as a guest artist,

923
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.280
like for one episode, you're in and out, you kind

924
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:50.559
of it's very common to just be a loner because

925
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.679
everyone else has their flow and their rhythm and the things,

926
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:57.480
and they know each other. And I had so much

927
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:02.559
on my mind between my stunt choreography and lines and

928
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:04.920
cling on and all the things. I was just so

929
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:09.239
focused on getting it right and being alert, so I

930
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:11.760
didn't have any of those moments. But I'm sure I've

931
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:13.559
seen some of the other episodes of the season where

932
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.519
they're singing and all kinds of fun stuff is happening.

933
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.840
There's a lot of fun moments that happened, for sure.

934
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.440
So nobody broke into Michael Jackson's thriller while you were

935
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:22.519
zombieing around.

936
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.119
Perhaps maybe I missed it again because there were a

937
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.280
lot of there were a lot of stunt stunt actors

938
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.400
on set that on those days, so I'm sure it

939
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:32.400
could have happened for sure.

940
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.119
Oh I thought of So if I could ask, have you.

941
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.000
Watched that episode yet? Have you have you watched your

942
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.199
performance in that episode?

943
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:39.360
Oh?

944
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:41.679
Yeah, what did you think? Do you think you were

945
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:42.599
a really badass?

946
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:43.880
Claim I did.

947
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:44.639
I was very proud.

948
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:48.280
Of course, any actor worthrough saw is probably gonna pick

949
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:52.880
out a few things, which I naturally did. That's constructive

950
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:58.360
feedback and criticism for next time. But I enjoyed it.

951
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.159
I was very pleased with how it came out. I

952
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:03.679
didn't I don't watch the dailies or see, you know,

953
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.119
outside of the moment, what's happening. You know, maybe the

954
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:08.039
stunt coordinator might say, you know, and see what you

955
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.239
did there, let's fix that. But no, I was very

956
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.159
pleased with it. I want to get the footage so

957
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.880
I can watch it some more at a viewing party

958
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:18.719
and had friends over and then I watched it privately,

959
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.320
you know, and yeah, I was very pleased.

960
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.199
Yeah, you're you're immortalized in the world of Star Trek.

961
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:26.719
Now you will ever be Bite.

962
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:28.039
Yeah, it's a big deal.

963
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.840
Not only that, Christine, you never know, but you just

964
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.880
may one day find out from your agent that you're

965
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:37.239
being immortalized and plastic. I mean, there could be a

966
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.960
Bite action figure down the road for you. I mean,

967
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:46.039
you know, popular characters. I've got a little in the

968
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:48.360
toy universe, and I just go.

969
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:50.360
Up with that.

970
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.440
Scene that was so well, I'm I'm open to it

971
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:55.639
as long as that means that, you know, not you

972
00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:00.360
know that also equates to money and other opportunity and

973
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.599
sci fi conferences and appearances.

974
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.360
You wouldn't have to do any of that stuff.

975
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.119
Yeah, I want, I wanted to. I wanted to add

976
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:14.360
I did just a face cast way back in uh

977
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:18.480
school in college, and I was I'm very claustrophobic too,

978
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:21.159
and the whole thing about breathing, you're totally that's the

979
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.880
only thing that gets you from like screaming and tearing

980
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.360
everything off. But with the with that zombie scene, especially

981
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.639
at the end where Bitha is just getting consumed, that

982
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.480
looked like was that as intense as it looked like?

983
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:38.480
And yeah, great question, but it was No.

984
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:40.639
I was gonna say and after because I know that

985
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.400
I know from other intense movies when they have a

986
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.039
scene like that that everybody has to sort of get

987
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:52.920
together afterwards. And I guess make sure that everybody's okay.

988
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.920
You know that that you know that this this intensity

989
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:01.360
does not carry on with you know what does that

990
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:02.119
make any sense?

991
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.719
Oh? Yeah, like a release? Everybody. Everybody has their process

992
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.960
for sure. The biggest thing that happened on set again,

993
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.360
we're surrounded by stunt coordinators, fight coordinators and safety teams,

994
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:17.039
so it's all wonderfully staged. It is a lot of

995
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:19.400
energy and a lot of people coming on top of

996
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:22.199
you and toping you know. But they had like a

997
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:26.800
like a really low table that I slid under, and

998
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:29.800
so the weight of humans did not No one was

999
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.159
crushing my actual you know best, but I will still

1000
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:38.519
under a table. So still did help my claustroph ovid energy.

1001
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.760
But you know, I'm like, you know, I can I

1002
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.000
can do. I can do. When they when they didn't

1003
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.199
need to all be there, they weren't. When they got

1004
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.800
another angle, I moved and they and my stunt double

1005
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.400
came in. So that's oh, Hannah, wha, who's my stunt double?

1006
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:58.400
Amazing athlete, Olympic athlete. She came in for some of

1007
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:00.639
that heavy lifting, you know, the heart our falls, the

1008
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.320
pushes in moments where it was she was being toppled

1009
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:07.360
in a wider shot. You know, she came in like

1010
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.039
a pro and held me down. So I'm grateful for that.

1011
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:14.079
That's awesome. Yeah, that was. That was an intense, intense scene.

1012
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:16.280
Mm hmm, it was.

1013
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:16.920
It was.

1014
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:18.639
Yeah.

1015
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:21.400
I just wanted to ask one more thing. What did

1016
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.039
you think about our theme song?

1017
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:23.760
Eric?

1018
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:30.639
It was cashy like, I'm going to be mad at

1019
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:32.079
you because when I'm singing it in my head in

1020
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:33.960
the middle of the night.

1021
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:38.519
Yeah, we need to add we need to add Bitha

1022
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:39.039
to it.

1023
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:45.199
And I love the graphics and everything. Nice job, nice shot.

1024
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:45.920
Eric, Eric.

1025
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:48.960
Eric sang it. I wrote it David put the video together.

1026
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:50.000
It's a group effort.

1027
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:53.519
I gotta say, I again, I'm just starting to do

1028
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:57.519
some of these podcasts as I have time. I say, yes,

1029
00:55:57.760 --> 00:55:59.760
you know, I'm not super concerned about how big the

1030
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:01.519
fire only is. Like I'm like, I just might have time.

1031
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:03.519
If I can make it work, I would love to.

1032
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:08.119
But I again, I love the dedication in the whether

1033
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.400
it's in the outfits or the music or the production value.

1034
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.239
I think I just appreciate it.

1035
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:15.280
I really do.

1036
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:20.760
Yeah, well, we we appreciate you very much. And I

1037
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:22.880
just want to say thank you for taking time out

1038
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.639
of your busy schedule to truck talk with us.

1039
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:26.760
Thank you, thank you.

1040
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:35.360
Yes, it's my pleasure. Thank you so much. And I

1041
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.199
look forward to you know, send it to me and

1042
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.119
I'll definitely share it and uh, you know, we'll see

1043
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:41.880
what happens in the future. I hope to see you

1044
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:45.400
in another planet sometime soon to.

1045
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.000
The Legal kling On Lawyer Show.

1046
00:56:54.480 --> 00:57:00.039
For spending time with us today, Christie, thank you so much.

1047
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:03.039
You so much, thank you, thank you bye.

1048
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:10.159
All Right, guess that was fun.

1049
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:11.199
That was.

1050
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:14.079
Awesome.

1051
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:15.480
Just a really nice person.

1052
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.800
Definitely when she said that about the law of attraction

1053
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:23.559
that just like I said, it gave me chills because

1054
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:28.239
I've been delving into that lately and it's really helped

1055
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:32.119
quite a bit to get me through some stuff. But yeah,

1056
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.800
I think I definitely have to contact her and see

1057
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:40.440
if I can see maybe I can achieve my dream

1058
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:43.119
of being, you know, seven years old, vowing that I

1059
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:48.159
would be on Star Trek. Hey, it's never to never

1060
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:51.360
never say never, never say never.

1061
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:52.199
Absolutely.

1062
00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:57.119
I know.

1063
00:57:58.519 --> 00:57:59.760
She probably didn't know that work.

1064
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:03.079
Well, it would have been funny. What would have been

1065
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.519
funny if you'd had it? Squeal at her, you know,

1066
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:10.400
doing the little trible shrieking, a little squeaking trible.

1067
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:14.599
I think I didn't want to say it when she

1068
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:15.760
was talking Dennis.

1069
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.239
But we do have a video that I that she

1070
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.039
sent me if you guys would like to see it,

1071
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:29.039
absolutely about her with with her her stunt doubles learning

1072
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:30.880
how to use the whip. You guys want to see that? Yes,

1073
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.119
roll the tape, David, What I do?

1074
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:41.960
K M.

1075
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:49.079
My wonderful stunt double. I want to get it before

1076
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:49.880
we are in there.

1077
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:58.360
I can't recognize she's amazing patience. This is my brother

1078
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:07.719
reminds me to missus Vincent, who is so patient.

1079
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:13.639
He tells me to walk and get low and he

1080
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:19.320
drills me amazing. We're about to rehearse, so Vincent just

1081
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.199
training me on how to throw the whip, even though

1082
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.079
there would not be a real whip on the day.

1083
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.679
When I first started fight rehearsals, for hours a day,

1084
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:31.320
I just practiced with a fake knife going against the wall,

1085
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:35.519
just to work on my posture and my form. So

1086
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:38.360
my lesson every day was to go slow before I

1087
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:41.400
could go fast, so I would rehearse with Mike since

1088
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:47.639
Babs was filming. As you can see here, I do

1089
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.599
not have the full whip. This is how I actually

1090
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:52.679
filmed it with just this little piece. But it was

1091
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:55.400
important that Vincent taught me the actual posture I would

1092
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:59.280
need when the whip would be added and more fight rehearsals.

1093
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.800
I got more infidite working with Mike, but it was

1094
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:04.920
still very challenging to make sure my form was right.

1095
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:10.480
And I ended every single day with a bath because

1096
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:11.400
my body's hurt.

1097
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:18.280
So she sent me that video and I couldn't figure

1098
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:20.119
out how to get it into the show while she

1099
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.199
was live, but I wanted to show that anyway, So

1100
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:27.559
thank you so much for sending us that video. All right, guys,

1101
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:29.519
so this is the part of the show where we

1102
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.679
do our fan shout outs.

1103
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:33.920
So you guys ready for some shout outs?

1104
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:35.400
Shout them out?

1105
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:41.800
All right, take it away, David. Where's our shout outs?

1106
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:42.880
There they are.

1107
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:54.280
We don't have a shout out song, Jim, I.

1108
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:58.880
Know, yeah, we'll have to come up with a shout

1109
01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.960
out song. All right.

1110
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:03.119
Well I'll just go ahead, all right. So our first

1111
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.719
fan shout out goes out this week to Simon Walker

1112
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:10.440
from Great Britain. He says, only not so great at

1113
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:14.639
the moment. Well, that's right, Simon, we feel your pain,

1114
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:17.920
not bros. Thanks for saying hello to us this week.

1115
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:21.800
We really appreciate your support for the podcast. Also saying

1116
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:26.440
hello this week to Joe McLoud who's in Western Australia

1117
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:31.480
sending us that amazing Australian flag. Joe McLoud, thank you

1118
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:33.880
so much for supporting us in the other hemisphere. It's

1119
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:38.079
amazing the reach of our podcast. Sometimes it just makes

1120
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:40.880
me feel really amazing inside to know that there are

1121
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:45.079
people so far away that know who we are. I

1122
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:48.360
would like to also welcome and say hello to James Wilson.

1123
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:53.440
This week, who is hailing from da jen Geads on

1124
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:59.360
the Haida Kwai Peninsula in BC, Canada. First Nations designations

1125
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.719
going on. I love that peace and long life, live

1126
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:05.840
long and prosper to all Trekkies around the world, and

1127
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.400
James sends us a live, long and prosper sign and

1128
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:12.159
a smiley face. James, thank you so much for saying

1129
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.920
hello to us and for acknowledging the people who originally

1130
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:19.800
come from those lands with you with your locations there.

1131
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:22.760
And last, but not at least, we would like to

1132
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.519
say at least I would like to say hello to

1133
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:31.719
Gunther Bolanse, who's saying hello from Antwerp in Belgium today.

1134
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.239
One of those very cool countries that feels like it

1135
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:38.599
just combines the cultures of so many different places and

1136
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.960
has its own culture. It's just it's a really really

1137
01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:45.320
cool country. And your architecture is something that really blows

1138
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:48.400
my mind sometimes when I start to think about Belgian architecture. Gunther,

1139
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.079
thank you so much for saying hello to us this week. Charles,

1140
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.440
I would like to pass this shout out megaphone over

1141
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:55.360
to you now, sir.

1142
01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:56.559
Oh, thank you.

1143
01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:57.000
Eric.

1144
01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:04.199
Let's start off with starf Late HQ. Welcome James Banks,

1145
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:08.920
which of course is in San Francisco. H James, Like

1146
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:13.960
I get back to your city soon. Della Jay Oak

1147
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:27.639
from south central Pennsylvania, Welcome Della. Welcome Elmer Clott from Portage, Wisconsin.

1148
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:34.239
Welcome Elmer Man. I actually got a top fan. Welcome

1149
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:42.760
Mary Stefan from Pennsylvania. Oh, welcome Mary. And the who's

1150
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:43.559
on your list?

1151
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.880
Well, I have somebody from my neck of the woods,

1152
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:53.440
Katala Brett in Virginia where I don't know, but hello,

1153
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:59.159
I hope you can come to Williamsburg sometime visit us here.

1154
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:07.719
Then I have or sorry, Charles James T. McCarty from Aniston, Alabama.

1155
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:11.679
That is an awesome name, Charles. Then we have, oh,

1156
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:17.480
Michael Seuss from Indianapolis, Indiana. And then another sort of

1157
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:21.679
my neck of the woods, Steve Stanley from Roanoke, Virginia,

1158
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:27.679
Star city of the South. All right, onto you, Paul.

1159
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:31.440
Just checking my audio friends, can you hear me?

1160
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:31.920
Okay?

1161
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:34.960
Now I can, Yes, we can.

1162
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.599
Okay, let's try it. It keeps trying to reconnect.

1163
01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:40.239
First of all, let's say greetings to our good pal

1164
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:43.559
Stuart Cook in Worcestershire, United.

1165
01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:45.239
Oh.

1166
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:46.880
Well, Okay, there we go.

1167
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:50.199
All right, let's move on to the next list, and

1168
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.840
then we'll come back to Paul after he disconnects and reconnects.

1169
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:55.760
Yeah, well, Steve, if Paul can come back, If not,

1170
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.599
we'll just have Eric continue on. All right, So I'm

1171
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:00.440
going to step in here for a second, and I

1172
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:03.119
want to say hello and thank you to Mary el Silva,

1173
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.000
who's listening to us down in Florida. Thank you, Mary,

1174
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:08.400
it's great to have you along with us. I have

1175
01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:13.159
a top fan on my list, Jerry Lee from San Antonio, Texas.

1176
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.440
Thank you so much. Next on my list, I want

1177
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:18.760
to say hello and thank you to Lenn Trecoor, who's

1178
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:23.920
listening to us in Detroit, Michigan, and another top fan.

1179
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:26.280
I love it when I get top fans. We want

1180
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:30.199
to say thank you to KIRKP. Del Costa from Nebraska.

1181
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.920
And how do you become a top fan? Eric, how

1182
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:35.039
do you become a top fan?

1183
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:38.119
Well, Jim, you start to interact with us a ton

1184
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.519
on our Facebook page. And I believe that that's a

1185
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:44.039
little designation that Facebook gives you because when you like something,

1186
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:47.480
when you love something, when you comment on something, it

1187
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:51.679
sort of builds up into a frenzy of top fannedness,

1188
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:54.679
and we appreciate having as many top fans as we

1189
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:55.519
can possibly get.

1190
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:58.840
Absolutely, and I guess Paul has to run off to

1191
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.159
a meeting. So Eric, do you want to continue Paul's

1192
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:01.920
birthday list?

1193
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:05.519
I definitely do well. Not birthday list, but shout out list.

1194
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:08.840
We're gonna say hello this week to Stuart Cook, who's

1195
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:13.280
from Worcestershire, UK, and we had a lot of fun

1196
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:16.719
with the name of that area last week. Is that

1197
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:18.679
the sauce that you put on the steake? No, it's not.

1198
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.800
It is a place in the United Kingdom and we

1199
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:24.599
have a ton of support from our friends just across

1200
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:27.119
the pond. Thank you so much for saying hello to

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01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:30.400
us this week, Stuart. We really appreciate your support. I

1202
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.880
would also like to say hello this week to Yalma Cristo,

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01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:39.719
who hails from Baio Razante in Brazil. You know, we

1204
01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:42.599
surprisingly have a lot of support down in South America,

1205
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:46.480
particularly Brazil, and Yalama you are one among many. I'm

1206
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:48.440
sure that you have a Star Trek club down there,

1207
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:50.039
or at least a bunch of people that you know

1208
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:53.400
that also enjoy the same franchise as you. Enjoy and

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01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.360
we enjoy your support and really appreciate you saying hello

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01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:59.039
to us this week. Like to say hello this week

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01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:03.559
as well to Petro Sian from Dublin, Ireland. One of

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01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:06.360
those places I would love to go because I love

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01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:08.719
your food, I love your culture, and believe it or not,

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01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:13.280
I love your weather. I'm a rainy weather kind of guy.

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01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:16.760
So Betra Sheen, thanks for saying hello to us. And

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01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.320
last but not least, on Paul's list, I would like

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01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:24.159
to say hello to top fan Renier W Bierman, who

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01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.280
is from the city of mes in Deutschland and they

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01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:31.239
send us three livelong and prospers as well as that

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01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:34.360
amazing German flag. Thank you Nier for saying hello to

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01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:36.760
us this week. A lot of support right there in

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01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:39.320
the center of Europe for our podcast and we always

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01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:44.119
appreciate friends from Germany saying hello. So there you have it.

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That does it for our shout outs this week.

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01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:49.360
Jim absolutely and if you guys would like to be

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01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:52.119
featured in a future fan shout out, head over to

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01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:55.639
our Facebook page Truck Talking and beyond you'll see a

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01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:58.519
little livelong and prosper pin to the top of the page.

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01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:00.559
Just pop in there, tell us where you listening from it.

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01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:02.679
We have lots of emojis because it gets my attention

1231
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:06.800
and gets you points to become a top fan also,

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01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:09.119
and you see it on the screen right there. There's

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01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:12.360
me and my daughter Jamie at Trek Connoroga with mister Spock.

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01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.199
You guys can send us your fan photos. There's me

1235
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:19.840
and Michael dorm back in nineteen ninety one. We can

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01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:21.600
get your pictures right up here on the screen, so

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01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:24.680
you'll be immortalized for all of eternity as a Star

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01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.520
Trek fan, So please please do that.

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01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:28.479
We'd love to add.

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01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:32.479
Your picture to our collection. All right, guys, we're going

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01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:38.000
to skip down to our Star Trek birthdays right now,

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01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:42.359
which means which means we're a little bit out of

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01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.479
whack here because we're doing things out of order, which

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01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:44.960
means this.

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01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:02.159
Figure fuck.

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01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:04.840
That was not a clean out song.

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01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:07.359
All right, guys, this is the part of the show

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01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:10.479
where you can find out what Star Trek actor you

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01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:11.680
share our birthday with.

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01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:12.920
But before we do that.

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01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:15.079
We like to remember those members of our Star Trek

1252
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:18.239
family who, sadly enough, are no longer with us, and

1253
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:21.319
for that we turned to Eric this week.

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01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:23.479
We are going to remember four members of our Star

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01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:26.600
Trek community who have gone before us. The first is

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01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:31.000
actress Kathy Brown. Kathy Brown was the California based actress

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01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:35.159
who appeared as Dela in the TOS third season episode

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01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:39.439
Wink of an Eye. This blonde haired, blue eyed played

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01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:44.439
many are new parts and was very busy acting on

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01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:47.840
television in the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies, but one

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01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:51.279
of her most famous acting roles was as the prospective

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01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:54.920
bride of Adam Cartwright, doing the during the nineteen sixty

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01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:58.680
three to nineteen sixty four season of Bonanza. From nineteen

1264
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:01.720
fifty nine, I will admit that I have seen a

1265
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:05.399
ton of Bonanza they slid in reruns as a child,

1266
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:10.119
and I actually remember Kathy Brown as the bride of

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01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:14.000
Adam Cartwright. It's a weird kind of like long term

1268
01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:16.680
memory that's in there for some reason. She was also,

1269
01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:20.399
of course, on various shows including Sea Hunt, seventy seven,

1270
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:24.319
Sunset Strip, Gun Smoke, Perry Mason. One of her four

1271
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.800
appearances on Perry Mason was as Sherry Jackson. She was

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01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:33.520
on my favorite Martian Wagon Train, Wild Wild West, Fantasy Island,

1273
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:37.560
The Love Boat. All those shows I feel like this

1274
01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:41.239
is defining the reruns of my childhood right now. Kathy Brown,

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01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:44.159
thank you so much for all of your contributions to

1276
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:46.640
Star Trek. Unfortunately we lost her all the way back

1277
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.199
in two thousand and three at seventy two years old.

1278
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:56.199
Happy Birthday to her. Her birthday is September nineteenth. She

1279
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:59.279
was born in nineteen thirty. Happy birthday as well to

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01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:04.560
Jerry As, the actor who played o'heiri in the TS

1281
01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:08.800
first season episode Arena and Rizzo in the second season

1282
01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:15.039
episode Obsession, Ayers was born as Gerald Hoyt Ayers Junior.

1283
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.239
He was to go on to become a regular on

1284
01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:22.079
General Hospital and The Bold and the Beautiful, two soaps

1285
01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:25.199
that my mom used to watch all so I've actually

1286
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:28.079
seen a lot of Jerry Ayers too. He had a

1287
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:32.279
reoccurring role in the first season of Dynasty as well.

1288
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:38.000
Plenty of other television guest stars to his credit, including

1289
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:42.760
Green Hornet Hogan's Heroes, The Invaders, Mod Squad, The Outcast,

1290
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:48.239
Police Story, Charlie's Angels, Barniby Jones, and Chips. Little known

1291
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:51.359
fact and for those of you who are currently watching

1292
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:55.359
this podcast, this is a little bit of Trek talking trivia.

1293
01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:57.880
There may be a reason that my first name is

1294
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:02.439
spelled with a K and its last name maybe Estrata.

1295
01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:10.720
Happy birthday, wid ZERI, Oh my gosh, is that true?

1296
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:11.880
Yea, it is.

1297
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:18.439
Okay, that's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome, all.

1298
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:22.159
Right, Happy birthday as well to Henry Gibson, the prolific

1299
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:26.159
actor who played Milva in BDS nine six season episode

1300
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:29.760
Prophet and Lace. Outside of Star Trek, he of course,

1301
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:32.479
is best remembered as a regular performer on the television

1302
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:37.640
variety series Rowan and Martin's Laughing from nineteen sixty eight

1303
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:41.199
through nineteen seventy one. I don't know what's going on tonight,

1304
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:43.279
but I've seen a ton of episodes of laugh In.

1305
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:47.439
He went on to appear in a large number of films,

1306
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:51.439
including several from Robert Altman and Joe Dante. Gibson worked

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01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:54.199
with director Altman on several films, beginning with The Long

1308
01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:58.239
Goodbye nineteen seventy three, but he's best known as the

1309
01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:04.880
country singer in Haven Hamilton in Singer Sorry his name

1310
01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:09.159
was Haven Hamilton from the movie Nashville from nineteen seventy five.

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01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:14.960
That performance actually earned him a National Society of Film

1312
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.840
Critics Award as Best Supporting Actor, as well as a

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01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:23.079
second Golden Globe nomination. Gibson also wrote and performed several

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01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:25.279
songs for the film, which allowed him to share a

1315
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:30.279
Grammy Award nomination for Album of Best Original Score Written

1316
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:34.680
for a Motion Picture or Television Series. That's so cool.

1317
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:38.239
Henry Gibson not only an actor, but an amazing musician.

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01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:41.520
He was in a bunch of other films too. You

1319
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.439
can go check out his IMDb. I probably know him best, honestly,

1320
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:49.840
from National Lampoon's Vacation. He was in that movie, which

1321
01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:53.560
is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's

1322
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.199
so funny. I mean, I must say that I put

1323
01:13:56.279 --> 01:13:59.159
Christmas Vacation slightly higher, but that's only because it becomes

1324
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:03.199
a year tradition to watch that thing. So Henry Gibson,

1325
01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:05.319
we lost him back in two thousand and nine at

1326
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:08.399
the age of seventy three years old. Happy birthday to Henry,

1327
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.159
and last but not least, on our remembrance list, we

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01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:14.520
say happy birthday this week to Robert Herron, the Hollywood

1329
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:18.079
stuntman and actor. He worked as a stunt double for

1330
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:23.199
Jeffrey Hunter on that original TOS pilot. The Cage. He

1331
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:28.079
also appeared uncredited as a USS Enterprise crew member named

1332
01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:32.439
Sam in the episode Charlie X. He later played the

1333
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:37.399
ex Caliban recreation of the legendary Kls, The Unforgettable and

1334
01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:41.199
The Savage Curtains. So that's not one, not two, but

1335
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:45.079
three star trek credits to his name. As an actor,

1336
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:48.199
Heron had small roles in a number of films, including

1337
01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:52.920
Gun Fury from nineteen fifty three movie movie from nineteen

1338
01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:56.960
seventy eight, City Heat. He also appeared in Stanley Kramer's

1339
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:01.039
The Domino Principle, which featured Majel Barrett. But Heron was

1340
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:05.079
a stuntman first and an actor second. So we appreciate

1341
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:09.960
you falling and hitting yourself and running into things. Robert

1342
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:15.119
har You're amazing. We lost you all the way back

1343
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:18.439
in twenty twenty one, but you, my good friend, lived

1344
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:21.680
to be ninety seven years old, and I only hope

1345
01:15:22.119 --> 01:15:24.159
that I can get two thirds of the way there myself.

1346
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:27.359
Happy birthday to you, and that does it for our

1347
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:30.680
remembrances this week. So I'm going to pass this flaming

1348
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:33.520
birthday candle over to my good friend Charles.

1349
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:34.680
Oh, thank you.

1350
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:35.119
Eric.

1351
01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:40.319
Let's start off with a happy birthday to Carolyn McCormick,

1352
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:46.399
actress who played Minuet in TNG's first season episode one

1353
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:53.359
one zero zero one zero zero one and also played

1354
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:59.239
Minuet Riker four in the in the fourth season episode

1355
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.359
Future Imperfect.

1356
01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:05.520
So I realized that she had a last name. I

1357
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:08.920
just knew her as Minuet, But did she really have

1358
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:10.039
a Riker last.

1359
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:13.600
Name because she was supposed to be Riker's wife.

1360
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:19.680
Yeah, but it was. Yeah, it was created by that

1361
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:24.199
little alien boy that was lonely, and he made it

1362
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:28.000
into like this this romulent takeover. It was like it

1363
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:31.600
was like a scenario within a scenario, and he created

1364
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:35.920
these videos. Yeah, and so that's when Riker knew, wait

1365
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:38.800
a minute, this isn't real, because he knew that min

1366
01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:43.760
wasn't real. So yeah, wow, was convoluted.

1367
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:48.880
But yeah, you've got the encyclopedic remembrance of these times.

1368
01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:49.239
I don't know.

1369
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:53.399
Yeah, something there's pills for that.

1370
01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:54.000
I don't know.

1371
01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:59.479
No, it don't take You've probably taken too much tile

1372
01:16:59.520 --> 01:16:59.760
at all.

1373
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:00.199
That.

1374
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:07.079
Yeah, I was born before that even came out. What

1375
01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:07.720
the heck is?

1376
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:08.199
I know?

1377
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:11.000
Hell is my excuse? What do they say? You know,

1378
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:16.560
my mother didn't love me enough. I don't know. I

1379
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:22.720
don't know that's inanity anyway. Sorry, can we say? Can

1380
01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:27.119
we say how fabulous Quirk looked as Lumba in profit

1381
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:29.600
in lace when Nolva the hot.

1382
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:34.199
Outfit. I would I would, I would, I.

1383
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:37.640
Would play that outfit. I would cause play that outfit.

1384
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:43.920
That was fantastic anyway. Sorry, we digress, We digress.

1385
01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:50.640
Sorry, Okay, continuing.

1386
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:53.079
On, I'll just say that I really want to hang

1387
01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:54.159
out in person with you.

1388
01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:58.720
Yeah, don't I want to hang out with all of

1389
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:02.680
you because I think it would just be just you know,

1390
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:08.119
hilarity would ensue.

1391
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:08.399
Seven of nine fun will now comment.

1392
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.079
Well, maybe we'll all have to hit down to Star

1393
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:15.439
Trek Las Vegas and see if we can get a

1394
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:16.399
Trek talking table.

1395
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:18.319
That would be great. When is that again?

1396
01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:26.640
That's next August? But I wouldn't hold August because next

1397
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:31.319
August is Star Trek sixtieth. Yeah, it's gonna be a

1398
01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:34.119
big con. It's not gonna be easy getting tables if

1399
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:38.479
you don't get them now, and they're not cheap. Thinking

1400
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:42.800
of birthdays and are some of our favorite episodes, Happy

1401
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:47.319
birthday to all this Hope actress who played Craft in

1402
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:55.079
Star Treks Treks Short Trek episode Calypso.

1403
01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:58.960
Excellent episode.

1404
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:03.159
Have to see that, and I think we understand that

1405
01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:06.520
episode a lot better now with Discovery coming to the

1406
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:16.279
conclusion what happened? Happy Birthday to Robin Gammel, actress who

1407
01:19:16.319 --> 01:19:24.680
played Marik and TG's seven season episode attached Happy Birthday

1408
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:30.439
to Dan gene Note, actress who played George Samuel Kirk

1409
01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:35.640
in Star Trek Exchange New Worlds. Great to having Dan

1410
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:38.800
in there. We love having Sam in the show.

1411
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.920
There's been way more Sam Kirk than I expected in

1412
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.399
this show, and I do not hate that at all.

1413
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:52.800
I think Sam is awesome. He's a great character, and

1414
01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:56.800
he's he's kind of like always there somehow, and I'm

1415
01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:59.600
not even really clear on what all of his skills are,

1416
01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:01.359
but I thin feel like he knows a lot about

1417
01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:01.600
a lot.

1418
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:05.000
He has a great mustache, and.

1419
01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:06.000
He has a great mustache.

1420
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:11.840
It does look like hair. He's got the dash, Yeah

1421
01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:12.760
he does.

1422
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:15.000
He's got the Pike's hair equivalent of a mustache. He

1423
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:15.640
totally does.

1424
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:19.640
He looks like, uh like, was it John Oates from

1425
01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:22.359
Holland Oates?

1426
01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:24.279
Yeah, those of you who get that.

1427
01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:29.319
Hair, Yeah, I mean I mean yeah, I mean, I

1428
01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:33.479
see I see Jim Carrey in Paul Wesley, So why

1429
01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:40.479
not the Hallan Oates thing? Sure? Yeah, oh gosh.

1430
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:50.520
And last on my list, Happy birthday to Rosalind Show

1431
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:55.600
actress had played Keke O'Brien in TG and d S nine.

1432
01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:01.039
It was nice to see an attachment from for Miles

1433
01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:02.359
in that show.

1434
01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:06.760
It was I feel like Rosalind you, I will admit girl,

1435
01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.159
your character could have been used a little bit better.

1436
01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:14.680
I feel like I wanted Akeko O'Brien like side show

1437
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:18.039
or something, because there was some depth there that wasn't

1438
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:20.720
explored with your character that I think could.

1439
01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:22.039
Have been episodes.

1440
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.079
Yeah, you know, good ones.

1441
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:28.199
You know what we need Eric we need as the

1442
01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:33.640
lawyer and Keiko as her her uh you know yeah,

1443
01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:37.039
her administrative assistance. It does all the paperwork and stuff

1444
01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:38.680
for I feel like.

1445
01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:42.880
You know, it could be a one two punch you

1446
01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:47.319
know Bytha Cako lawyer team, right, Yeah, like wanted like

1447
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:51.760
good cop, bad cop kind of thing, like I'm saying

1448
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:53.920
exactly like.

1449
01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:56.680
That of the same wavelength.

1450
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:02.279
And not Meg Ryan. What's her? Meg Foster? Was I

1451
01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:06.560
forget the character's name that almost killed Jake Cisco by

1452
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:10.399
being amused, but she sucked like all his life force.

1453
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:12.760
She lived off his life force, so to speak.

1454
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:15.000
So that was.

1455
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:25.439
On an ayah something something like that, like a vampire,

1456
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:27.239
like a psychic vampire.

1457
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:31.039
Yeah.

1458
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:36.520
Yeah, so well, we had so much fun with my birthdays.

1459
01:22:36.640 --> 01:22:39.520
Let's see how much fun we have these birthdays.

1460
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:45.279
Okay, I guess I'm taking Paul's birthdays. Yes, okay, all right,

1461
01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:48.600
I'm Paul now okay, And can I say that I

1462
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:51.840
have seen too many things, and I must admit I

1463
01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:54.760
sort of bought into it a little bit with all

1464
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:58.359
the people that got annoyed by Keiko because she could

1465
01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:01.760
be annoying. But when you think about it, I believe

1466
01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:07.640
that Miles and Keiko were the only successful couple in

1467
01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:10.399
you know, any of the Star Trek that I can remember,

1468
01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:14.239
because everybody else had, you know, things happen. You know,

1469
01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:19.119
poor Warf just kept on, uh, you know, losing his yah.

1470
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:21.800
So anyway, no, you're you're You're totally right.

1471
01:23:22.159 --> 01:23:24.239
And the other thing that I will just like very

1472
01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:28.600
quickly digress on Keiko about is that the reason that

1473
01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:31.039
I say that I think Keiko was underdeveloped is that

1474
01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:36.439
many of the episodes that she was written into were

1475
01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:41.960
written by men who I think specifically wrote her as

1476
01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:47.039
the annoying wife character. And that is no fault of

1477
01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:50.079
the actress, right, That is always the fault of the

1478
01:23:50.239 --> 01:23:54.760
actual writers themselves. So I feel like, you know, Rosly

1479
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:58.640
and Chow actually had the opportunity to to be more

1480
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:01.600
than the Keko Oprah, which is why I would love

1481
01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:02.720
to see more of her in the future.

1482
01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:05.920
Oh yeah, I know, definitely, And she's just in everything else.

1483
01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:12.000
She is a an excellent actress. So anyway, I came

1484
01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:16.399
to to really enjoy watching her as Keko. All right,

1485
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:21.680
well let's get to Let's see Suzanne Wasson, actress who

1486
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:29.560
played late Leaf Left Sorry Less in the TS first

1487
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:36.079
season episode Dagger of the Mind. Next, Victor Brandt, who

1488
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:41.000
appears in the TOS episode The Way to Eden, one

1489
01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:47.039
of my favorites because it's so groovy. Tongo read and

1490
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:52.079
he was in a line of troyas as Watson. Next,

1491
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:54.640
I had to read this twice, but then I understood

1492
01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:59.359
what this was, what this role was. Anyway. Leonard Crowfoot

1493
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:03.680
is the actor who portrayed Trent in the TG episode

1494
01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:08.039
Angel One and when it said lol and TG the offspring,

1495
01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:15.279
he was the non the the generic generic wall like

1496
01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:20.279
that's right, and trying to pick who they wanted.

1497
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:22.039
To actually picks.

1498
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:31.880
Yeah, and uh the Komar dignitary in Voyager Virtuoso next

1499
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:38.159
Sierra Picture retired actress who played Tapel and Selloch in

1500
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:44.640
the TG fourth season episode Data's day, Data, Data, what's

1501
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:46.840
the difference? What is my name? They?

1502
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:51.239
Did you see my comment on that post?

1503
01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:51.960
I didn't.

1504
01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:53.720
Sorry, this is.

1505
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:55.720
Like a little bit meta here, people, but like there

1506
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:58.039
was a post on by Jim on the Facebook page

1507
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:03.640
today Pulaski's dated Data, what's the difference? It was. It

1508
01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:07.119
was literally posted like an hour before this show. And

1509
01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:10.000
my comment and my comment on that was, of course

1510
01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:12.159
everybody knows who listens to the show that I'm a

1511
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:15.000
big Pulaski, Okay. And my comment on that was the

1512
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:18.119
fact that I love the fact that she actually grows

1513
01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:21.880
through the episode. She actually her character development is immense

1514
01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:25.680
during one episode, right, So she starts like what's the

1515
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:28.079
big deal? Like I'm calling him Data, what's the different

1516
01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:31.479
And by the end she's drinking cling on team right.

1517
01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:34.680
Yeah, talk about an actress who kind of got a

1518
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:38.800
raw deal in that whole thing, because we know what

1519
01:26:38.920 --> 01:26:42.760
happened with Gates McFadden and then she's brought in and

1520
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:45.079
even to this day, I saw a recent interview where

1521
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:48.960
she will not speak to her experience. She's not going

1522
01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:52.960
to say anything that's that's pure class to not, you know,

1523
01:26:53.079 --> 01:26:58.760
trash talk her experience. So hats off to her. Let's

1524
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:04.159
see where we Caroline Lagerfeldt, who played mock Bar in

1525
01:27:04.359 --> 01:27:11.399
DS nine second season episode Tribunal. Then gosh, I hope

1526
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:17.600
I don't mangle this. You tied. Sorry, I'm my apologies.

1527
01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:23.720
But Badaki, actress who played Nero Catool in the Strange

1528
01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:29.119
New World second season episode ad Astra per Aspera, I

1529
01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:34.680
said that, okay? Cool? Then last, but not least, rosalind Ingeldew,

1530
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:41.640
who played Yanar in TNG second season episode The Outrageous o'conna,

1531
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:52.800
which was a interesting episode. All right, onto uncle Jim.

1532
01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:52.279
Well, thank you so much.

1533
01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:54.680
Me. I like to save the Klingons for last, But

1534
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:57.520
I gotta say, we just talked to the most badass.

1535
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.840
Know how can you possibly top that? Well?

1536
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:06.680
I only have two birthdays. One of them isn't a Klingon.

1537
01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:11.640
We want to say happy birthday to Jason Alexander television

1538
01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:15.439
film and stage actor who voiced nom a Starter, Prodigy

1539
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.920
and Curos on Voyagers episode The Think Tank. If you

1540
01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:24.319
guys remember Prodigy, he was that annoying tell right character

1541
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:29.199
who really like to bash heads with the Andoran what

1542
01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:29.720
was his name?

1543
01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:30.079
Eric?

1544
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:31.279
Oh?

1545
01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:36.960
Did? It was started with a tea. I can't remember it.

1546
01:28:37.199 --> 01:28:41.920
But here's what I'll say, Jim, you see teller rights

1547
01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:46.359
as annoying, but a tellwright might have seen him as

1548
01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:49.760
actually kind of liberal, like he actually sort of gets

1549
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:52.840
along with humans, and Andoran's a little bit better than

1550
01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:54.359
most tell rights do I think?

1551
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:58.800
Yeah? He Actually, you're right, he did. He did.

1552
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:04.159
He Let's be let's be honest. Tell rights for humans

1553
01:29:04.319 --> 01:29:05.319
are hard to get along with.

1554
01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:09.000
They're still a tell right, but you know.

1555
01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:13.039
Well they they just love to argue. That's their thing,

1556
01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:16.079
and they will challenge you on every single thing that's

1557
01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:18.720
part of their culture. And if you come to their

1558
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:22.600
table and sort of understand that and argue with them,

1559
01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:25.279
then you can be friends with a tellwright. But if

1560
01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:27.239
if you don't, then you're just gonna think theyre annoying.

1561
01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:30.119
Right, I'll be prepared.

1562
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:34.960
Yeah, that's right, And actually I do have a kling

1563
01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:39.239
on on my list. We want to say happy birthday

1564
01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:43.079
and copy nah to Chris Obi. Now is it Obi?

1565
01:29:43.239 --> 01:29:46.520
Is it Obi wan Kenobi? Or is it Obi?

1566
01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:47.359
Sounds cool?

1567
01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:49.319
I'm going to go I'm pretty sure it's Obi.

1568
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:51.920
Yeah, I want to go with Obi. He's the actor

1569
01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:54.479
who played to Kubma in the first two episodes of

1570
01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:57.680
Star Trek Discovery, The Vulcan Hello and the Battle at

1571
01:29:57.680 --> 01:30:00.720
the Binary Stars. And I just got to say, as

1572
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:04.319
a Klingon fan, I absolutely loved what they did with

1573
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:06.359
the Klingons on Star Trek Discovery.

1574
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:07.840
I thought it was awesome.

1575
01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:10.680
I thought it was great to see the Klingons truly

1576
01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:14.560
alien and not just some dude with a handlebar mustache

1577
01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:19.119
and shoe polish on their face, but truly truly Aliens.

1578
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:23.880
So something they do discuss with outsiders.

1579
01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:27.760
Yeah, something they discussed with outsiders yep. And so I

1580
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:28.520
thought that was great.

1581
01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:31.239
And I also liked the way if you guys remember

1582
01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:33.319
when I don't know if they kept that, but when

1583
01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:36.279
it first aired, when it way back when it was

1584
01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:41.680
CBS All Access, before it was Paramount Plus. And when

1585
01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:44.560
he's speaking, he speaks in Klingon and you can actually

1586
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:49.000
set your Netflix to Klingon so the.

1587
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:52.000
Well, they naturally showed the subtitles in Klingon to start

1588
01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:53.399
with yeah.

1589
01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:55.760
Which was really cool. Yeah, So I thought that.

1590
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:59.119
Was and I think I'm going to try that dual lingo,

1591
01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:03.399
and I think I'm going to see if I can

1592
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:06.000
learn Klingon because I forgot that they had that on there.

1593
01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:08.560
But du a lingo, you can learn Clingon.

1594
01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:12.239
Yep, they do, so they do. And he was a

1595
01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:16.159
great Klingon. I love that whole religious aspect and the

1596
01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:20.119
whole thing. So congratulations to him on creating a great character.

1597
01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:24.359
And that, my friends, wraps up our Star Trek birthdays.

1598
01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:27.319
And now it's time for some Star Trek news.

1599
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:32.439
Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secure channel.

1600
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:39.000
Incoming transmission enter authorization code, command codes verified.

1601
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:43.319
Define parameters of program.

1602
01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:44.640
Level nine, authorization.

1603
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:46.119
Required, specifying parameters.

1604
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:49.560
Transfer updata is complete.

1605
01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:52.680
A blank alert, black alert.

1606
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:56.039
All right, Eric, I guess you got the first story.

1607
01:31:57.159 --> 01:32:00.439
Well this is, of course our second, our favorite segment

1608
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:04.239
called Shatner says wo. But before I start the Shatner

1609
01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:07.119
says Wood, which is very exciting. This week, I'll just

1610
01:32:07.159 --> 01:32:10.840
say we did have a little scare. I believe it

1611
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:14.399
was yesterday that happened with mister William Shatner. He had

1612
01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:16.960
a little blood sugar issue, had to go to the

1613
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:19.920
hospital for that. And I'll say, even though we have

1614
01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:22.840
a lot of fun with you, sir, because you say

1615
01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:25.840
some crazy stuff, sometimes, we are very happy that you

1616
01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:28.880
are still with us and very happy that your experience

1617
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:32.880
at the hospital just went very smoothly and that you

1618
01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:37.439
continue to propagate the ability to just you know, give

1619
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:41.800
us more content for Shatner says, So, I'll just say,

1620
01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:45.520
super happy that you're still with us, sir. However, let's

1621
01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:49.560
just say that William Shatner has revealed a shocking secret

1622
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:54.439
behind his Star Trek career. Shatner, who went on after

1623
01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:57.880
the television show to reprise his Kirk role in seven

1624
01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:01.119
Star Trek feature films culminating with Kirk's death in nineteen

1625
01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:06.079
ninety four's Star Trek Generations, recently opened up about how

1626
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:09.479
it was during the beginning of his Trek career. The

1627
01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:13.359
Emmy winning Shatner, now ninety four years old, candidly revealed

1628
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:18.039
that he didn't earn even one cent from Star Trek reruns,

1629
01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:22.039
even though the series has been in constant syndication for decades.

1630
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:27.239
Star Trek. On September eighth, celebrated the fifty ninth anniversary

1631
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:29.359
of the premiere of the first episode of the series.

1632
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:35.119
Nobody Knew about reruns, Shatner explained Star Trek's original run

1633
01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:39.159
on NBC lasted just three seasons. He said the concept

1634
01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:42.199
of syndication only came in after a Star Trek was

1635
01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:44.680
canceled when someone from the union said, wait a minute,

1636
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:48.840
you're replaying all those films, those shows, Shatner said. He

1637
01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:53.039
continued that the controversy surrounding Star Trek's moved to syndication

1638
01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:58.000
culminated in a big strike, Shatner added, but in the end,

1639
01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:02.520
the union secured residual fees shortly after Star Trek finished,

1640
01:34:03.239 --> 01:34:06.760
so I didn't benefit. This isn't the first time Shatner

1641
01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:09.760
opened up about not getting paid royalties for his time

1642
01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:12.640
on TOS. As far back as twenty twenty, the actor

1643
01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:15.520
took to x of Course known as Twitter back then

1644
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:19.000
to say anything before nineteen seventy three that includes the

1645
01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:22.000
original Star Trek series doesn't pay a cent in royalties.

1646
01:34:22.039 --> 01:34:25.159
So please don't think you own me, you owe me,

1647
01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:28.520
you own me, or I owe you something for watching.

1648
01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:32.239
It doesn't work like that. As for whether Shatner would

1649
01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:34.640
ever return to the Star Trek franchise, the actor, who

1650
01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:37.239
still makes his rounds on the Star Trek convention circuit,

1651
01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:41.960
has given mixed messages. In May twenty twenty four, The

1652
01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.319
New York Post asked him what it would take for

1653
01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:46.479
him to return to the world of Trek, and he

1654
01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:54.159
simply replied an injection of speed or something. But in

1655
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:57.880
February twenty twenty five, Shatner had a different answer when

1656
01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:00.680
asked if he would ever boldly go on to another

1657
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:04.880
Star Trek adventure. Speaking during a panel at Fan Expo Vancouver,

1658
01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:07.960
Shatner revealed that he had been in talks with a

1659
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:11.439
writer on one of Paramount Plus's in development Star Trek

1660
01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:14.760
shows about returning to the franchise. He said, I've been

1661
01:35:14.800 --> 01:35:17.680
asked to come back as Kirk so many times. He

1662
01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:20.199
said at that time, if Kirk is going to come back,

1663
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:23.159
it has to mean something. It has to be the show.

1664
01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:27.279
So I'll tell you, and I always like to mention

1665
01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:30.279
this anytime we talk about Kirk sort of coming back.

1666
01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:34.159
If you haven't read his book, his Star Trek book,

1667
01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:38.920
The Return, he used to check it out just to

1668
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:41.319
know what happens. I'm not going to tell you that

1669
01:35:41.359 --> 01:35:44.560
it's an amazing book, but it does talk about like

1670
01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:47.560
what if Kirk didn't die in generations, what if he

1671
01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:50.439
came back, How would he possibly come back? Would there

1672
01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:58.079
be certain technologies involved? So yeah, I you know, one

1673
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:00.560
thing that really sucks about this story that I think

1674
01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:03.479
is clear is that back in the sixties and seventies, man,

1675
01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:08.640
the big companies were out to exploit as many actors

1676
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:12.560
as they possibly could, and they gave them crappy contracts

1677
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:16.239
and agents didn't really know what they were talking about.

1678
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:19.520
I always think about that show mad Men, you know,

1679
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:24.239
with like people like just smoking in CD rooms all

1680
01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:27.960
the time and nobody really getting what they really deserve

1681
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:30.439
in the end. So I don't poo poo at all

1682
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:34.319
the fact that Shatner didn't make anything off of all

1683
01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:36.640
of the syndication. I mean literally, the only reason I

1684
01:36:36.720 --> 01:36:40.079
know about Star Trek is two reasons. One because it

1685
01:36:40.119 --> 01:36:43.760
was syndicated on television, and two because my local library

1686
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:47.399
owned sixteen millimeter prints of certain episodes that I saw

1687
01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:50.920
when I was a child, So you know, he should

1688
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:55.119
have made money off of those, there's no question, you know.

1689
01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:58.319
But then the question always comes, would you like to

1690
01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:00.359
see would you, as a Star Trek fan, like to

1691
01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:04.159
see James C. Kirk come back, and would you like

1692
01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:07.960
to see it played him played by mister Shatner. I

1693
01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:09.920
don't know. I'll leave that up to you. I think

1694
01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:14.000
it's a rhetorical question. But I'm happy to read this

1695
01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:17.319
story and hear what mister Shatner has to say about

1696
01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:19.319
the shocking secret behind his career.

1697
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:23.920
Well, I have a story, as I always do, to

1698
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:28.359
stare about mister Shatner, way way way back in the day.

1699
01:37:28.399 --> 01:37:30.680
For a long time he wasn't doing Star Trek conventions

1700
01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:33.319
because he was pissed off and thought he didn't know

1701
01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:34.000
us anything.

1702
01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:35.319
And he did a.

1703
01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:37.159
Convention down in New York City, and I said to

1704
01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:39.600
my wife, we got to go down and meet Captain Kirk.

1705
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:41.560
He's going to be in New York City. Let's go.

1706
01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:44.760
So we made the trek to New York and we

1707
01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:49.159
go into the convention. And back then, you paid to

1708
01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:51.920
get into the convention and you got an autograph. You

1709
01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:54.640
didn't have to pay extra for everything. It was included

1710
01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:58.560
in your price. I know I'm old, but that's the

1711
01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:02.159
way it used to be. And so we waited online

1712
01:38:02.520 --> 01:38:06.279
for hours to get up to the table, and I

1713
01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:11.239
had my picture of Captain Kirk from TOS. He refused

1714
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:14.159
to sign it. And the reason he cited that he

1715
01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:16.760
wouldn't sign it is exactly what this article is about.

1716
01:38:17.239 --> 01:38:21.039
He didn't get any residuals for that photo, therefore he

1717
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:23.720
wouldn't sign it. And well, but here's a picture of

1718
01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:25.600
me and my horse in Kentucky. I'm like, I don't

1719
01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:26.920
want to picture of you with your horse.

1720
01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:29.039
I want a picture of you was Captain Kirk.

1721
01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:30.199
And he wouldn't sign it.

1722
01:38:31.159 --> 01:38:34.640
He wouldn't sign and I was I was like, wow,

1723
01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:40.319
what a dink, you know, So I wasn't impressed at that,

1724
01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:43.640
you know, back then with that and then that's a

1725
01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:47.640
true story. And another true story to piggyback on top

1726
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:51.279
of that one is in nineteen ninety one, I did

1727
01:38:51.279 --> 01:38:54.960
a Star Trek convention in upstate New York and our

1728
01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:57.880
local Fox affiliate, which was airing TG at the time,

1729
01:38:58.960 --> 01:39:02.520
went to sarah Tooga Racetrack and Shatner was racing one

1730
01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:05.399
of his horses there and as I just told you,

1731
01:39:05.439 --> 01:39:10.720
Shantner wouldn't sign Star Trek photos. Well, somehow the station

1732
01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:13.479
got him to sign a black and white promo picture

1733
01:39:13.960 --> 01:39:16.720
of Captain Kirk holding up the Enterprise, which I know

1734
01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:18.319
you guys have seen. I think it was on the

1735
01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:21.039
cover of the TV Guide at one point maybe, and

1736
01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:23.920
he signed it for the TV station to give to

1737
01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:27.159
us for our charity auction. And I held that as

1738
01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:29.680
the last item because I thought, oh my god, here

1739
01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:32.560
we got Shatner's signature on a Star Trek photo. He

1740
01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:35.399
doesn't sign Star Trek photos. We're gonna raise a lot

1741
01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:41.640
of money for our charity. So my my auctioneer puts

1742
01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:45.520
it up there on the table. Started at fifty dollars,

1743
01:39:46.520 --> 01:39:54.640
no bytes, forty no bytes, thirty wow, no byte, funny,

1744
01:39:55.479 --> 01:40:01.319
no bites, and so he went to ten and we

1745
01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:05.560
got a bid and we ended up getting twelve dollars

1746
01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:10.000
for the William Shatner autographed Star Trek photo. It was

1747
01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:13.359
the lowest, lowest item that we sold, and here I

1748
01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:14.920
thought it was going to be the biggest and it

1749
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:20.720
was literally so two true stories about William Shatner and

1750
01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:22.800
his awful experience with Star Trek.

1751
01:40:23.039 --> 01:40:26.359
So if I can add a true story at the

1752
01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:29.720
con the other weekend, he did talk about that when

1753
01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:33.000
he was up on the stage when I didn't get

1754
01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.199
to ask any questions because he had to tell the

1755
01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:39.560
story about the eating bad fish and having food poison.

1756
01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:44.439
That could have done without that. But the only thing,

1757
01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:46.520
you know, I don't think any I don't think anybody

1758
01:40:46.520 --> 01:40:49.399
should own anybody because that's just wrong. But when he

1759
01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:54.520
said he doesn't you know he doesn't owe us anything

1760
01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:58.560
for watching, well he he kind of does, because if

1761
01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:01.760
he hadn't been Kirk. And I know he had a

1762
01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:06.159
dry spell after that for a while, but today he's

1763
01:41:06.239 --> 01:41:09.039
like traveling all over the world, going to space. He's got,

1764
01:41:09.319 --> 01:41:14.960
you know, this fantastic horse farm in Kentucky. So in

1765
01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:20.239
a way that I mean, he watched and he's gotten

1766
01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:24.479
money since then. You know, he directed some no name,

1767
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:31.760
you know movie a couple of years ago, one of.

1768
01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:33.760
The best Star Trek films. Ever.

1769
01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:39.279
Yeah, no, I couldn't. I couldn't resist. So so in

1770
01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:43.520
that way, I have to I have to respectfully disagree

1771
01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:49.159
with him. But what he said, though, if he's been

1772
01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:53.039
asked to come back, I hair terrible echo. I have

1773
01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:55.039
to totally agree with him. If Kirk is going to

1774
01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:59.039
come back, it has to mean something, it has to

1775
01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:03.640
be the show. So with that I totally agree. It

1776
01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:08.439
can't just be you know what is gratuitous.

1777
01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:13.640
Well, in Shatner's defense, I have to say the way

1778
01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:17.359
conventions are run today, if you're willing to pay, he'll sign.

1779
01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:18.239
Any Oh yeah, he will.

1780
01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:20.960
You know, whatever you put in front of him. You

1781
01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:24.039
you plunk down your hundred bucks, you will sign.

1782
01:42:24.359 --> 01:42:26.600
Did anybody ever see him when he was on I

1783
01:42:26.640 --> 01:42:30.000
saw it when it was Live Saturday Night Live years ago,

1784
01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:34.720
and he played himself at a convention. You could probably

1785
01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:39.079
look it up on YouTube William Shatner as himself on SNL,

1786
01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:44.119
And I'm sure there was a little more truth to

1787
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:49.680
his response to the fans, you know, the actors and

1788
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:52.840
the audience. It's like basically telling them, you know, what

1789
01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:58.479
are you doing here? You know, get a life points

1790
01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:01.079
to I think John all of it says you have

1791
01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:04.000
never kissed a girl, and he just looks down in shame.

1792
01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:07.920
So that was that was hilarious. I think there was

1793
01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:10.439
probably a little more, you know, he probably wouldn't admit it,

1794
01:43:10.479 --> 01:43:13.640
but a little more you know, reality to that scene

1795
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:16.560
than probably I don't know, But if you have a

1796
01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:20.159
chance to watch it, do it. It's it's really pretty funny.

1797
01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:21.800
I believe.

1798
01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:25.600
I think we actually played that on the podcast at

1799
01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:28.720
one point, because there's a lot of fans that have

1800
01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:30.920
never seen that, because they weren't born in nineteen eighty

1801
01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:34.359
six when that came out. So we pull it out

1802
01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:36.840
and I'll blow the dust off and play it every

1803
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:41.359
once in a while, just you know, Well, Charles, Charles,

1804
01:43:41.359 --> 01:43:43.800
you've got our next story, which is actually a little

1805
01:43:43.800 --> 01:43:46.239
bit well not too badly dated, but you've got our

1806
01:43:46.279 --> 01:43:46.800
next story.

1807
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:48.680
Okay.

1808
01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:54.720
Church September twenty fourth a great day for Captain Kirk fans.

1809
01:43:55.319 --> 01:43:58.880
Star Trek fans are currently waiting eagerly for the anticipation

1810
01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:02.600
to release it. I need to publishing Star Trek The

1811
01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:07.720
Last Starship Number One. It is set to take place

1812
01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:11.640
during the most infinite event in the franchise's history, the Burn,

1813
01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:16.039
which is nearly marked up, marked up, the end of

1814
01:44:16.079 --> 01:44:19.880
the Federation United Federation of Planets and everything that Starfleet

1815
01:44:20.079 --> 01:44:23.920
fought to protect. Star Trek the Lost Starship number one

1816
01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:28.239
is currently stated to arrive and did arrive on September

1817
01:44:28.279 --> 01:44:34.800
twenty fourth. The official synopsis for Star Trek Last Starship

1818
01:44:34.880 --> 01:44:38.439
Number One reads for seven centuries, the yearned Federation of

1819
01:44:38.479 --> 01:44:43.079
Planet brought together the entire Then, in one terrible moment,

1820
01:44:43.159 --> 01:44:46.000
it all crumbled in an event known as the Burn.

1821
01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:54.520
Galaxy wide disasteris event which dilithium has gone inert, causing

1822
01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:59.199
the detonation of every active Work Corps. The wayship remaining

1823
01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:05.159
is a hacked slash starship Omega Enterprise Omega and it's

1824
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:09.439
ragtag crew facing the true wild Western Space. The crew

1825
01:45:09.439 --> 01:45:12.840
will need to make use of what few reasons they

1826
01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:17.760
have uploads Starfleet's mission of unity across the universe, and

1827
01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:21.159
Captain work will Captain Kirk will have to face a

1828
01:45:21.279 --> 01:45:26.239
future without a federation he loves so dearly. Stir Trek,

1829
01:45:26.319 --> 01:45:29.600
the last starship. I just want several new Star Trek

1830
01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:37.279
comic books being released by IEW Publishing this year. Just

1831
01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:40.640
quick summary is some of the other ones include Star Trek,

1832
01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:46.640
Red Shirts, Star Trek Voyage or Homecoming, Strange New Worlds,

1833
01:45:46.680 --> 01:45:52.199
The Seeds of Salvation, and that's it for so far.

1834
01:45:52.359 --> 01:45:56.560
We've got quite a few active comics coming out right now.

1835
01:45:58.199 --> 01:46:00.600
Hopefully the Voyager one will get a little little better.

1836
01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:05.079
I thought that was a little bit a little bit

1837
01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:09.079
much for that first step issue, and Red Shirts was

1838
01:46:10.279 --> 01:46:14.960
not quite what I expected, but I'm sure that.

1839
01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:17.039
The line.

1840
01:46:18.560 --> 01:46:22.079
Yeah, we'll get around to that for sure, And I

1841
01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:24.439
have the last story here for the night. We're gonna

1842
01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:25.359
go right back to.

1843
01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:27.880
The Klingon theme. I only had one Klingon in.

1844
01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:30.479
My birthdays, but we had a hell of a badass

1845
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:34.840
Klingon on the podcast for you guys tonight. So we

1846
01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:38.319
started with a Klingon and we're gonna end with a Klingon.

1847
01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:43.119
Klingon next Door is a hilarious look at Star Trek's

1848
01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:46.840
angriest aliens. What do they do in their downtime? And

1849
01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:48.880
there's the cover of the book right there. I'm gonna

1850
01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:51.159
have to pick it up because it looks it looks interesting.

1851
01:46:51.680 --> 01:46:56.279
Titan Books hardcover cartoon collection makes you see militant Klingons

1852
01:46:56.359 --> 01:47:00.319
in a whole new light. Klingons aren't exactly the most

1853
01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:04.279
friendly bunch of battle tested aliens inhabiting the Star Trek universe,

1854
01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:10.319
but seeing them in more casual, domestic situations, relaxing under

1855
01:47:10.319 --> 01:47:13.960
the mundane circumstances should bring a smile to all of

1856
01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:17.720
our geeky faces. As initially presented in the first season

1857
01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:21.520
of Geen Rodenbery's Star Trek original series in nineteen sixty six,

1858
01:47:22.279 --> 01:47:25.760
these war mongering humanoids were supposed to be a not

1859
01:47:25.880 --> 01:47:30.680
so subtle sci fi reflection of the Soviet era Cold

1860
01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:36.720
War Russian adversaries residing on their home planet of Kronos

1861
01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:41.239
and acting hostile to the Federation. Now, a whimsical new

1862
01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:46.279
hardcover book from author Joey Spiddow, titled Klingon next Door

1863
01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:50.359
Off Duty in the Warriors' Way, aims to show the

1864
01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:54.079
lighter side of these aggressive beings, showing what they get

1865
01:47:54.159 --> 01:48:01.479
up showing when they excuse me, Showing what they get

1866
01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:04.279
up to when they're not piloning their birds of prey,

1867
01:48:04.439 --> 01:48:07.720
firing on innocent star Fleet vessels, and creating a turbulent

1868
01:48:07.720 --> 01:48:13.279
political crisis, or to No normal task is ignored in

1869
01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:16.640
this quirky surprise, whether they're doing a spot of cooking,

1870
01:48:17.159 --> 01:48:21.399
playing competitive sports, or just grocery shopping. Fans of the

1871
01:48:21.439 --> 01:48:24.720
Star Trek Lower Decks will discover how an honorable warrior

1872
01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:27.880
might take on the epic challenges of day to day

1873
01:48:27.920 --> 01:48:31.239
home life, and this funny collection of colorful vignettes Star

1874
01:48:31.279 --> 01:48:34.479
Trek Klingon next Door Off Duty The Warrior's Way is

1875
01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:36.840
currently available for sixteen ninety.

1876
01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:40.279
Five at Amazon. I'm going to have to pick me too.

1877
01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:45.560
And I was today years old when I learned, and

1878
01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:50.119
it's like it was so obvious that the original Klingons

1879
01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:56.479
were his Star Trek was so you know about current issues.

1880
01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:03.760
But yeah, so we had air Cold War Russian adversaries. Yeah,

1881
01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:06.439
the funny thing. The funny thing is about the planet

1882
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:11.319
of Kronos. At work here, our app that we clock

1883
01:49:11.399 --> 01:49:15.000
in and out of and have our work, you know,

1884
01:49:15.399 --> 01:49:21.479
vacation time and all, that is also called Kronos. So

1885
01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:24.279
now it's like, yeah, I'm dealing with the home planet

1886
01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:27.680
of the Klingons, which can be and it can be

1887
01:49:27.840 --> 01:49:31.039
kind of adversarial. Yeah, so it's it's perfect.

1888
01:49:33.439 --> 01:49:35.079
The planet of the Klingons.

1889
01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:38.760
I love it planet all right. God, well, believe it

1890
01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:42.159
or not, we made it through the whole show. Next

1891
01:49:42.199 --> 01:49:46.239
week we're going to be talking about con SETI Alpha five,

1892
01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:50.640
Episode one, Paradise. I've got some trivia questions, We've got

1893
01:49:50.680 --> 01:49:53.560
some poll questions all lined up, as well as fan

1894
01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:55.720
shout outs and our Star Trek birthdays and our Star

1895
01:49:55.760 --> 01:49:58.000
Trek news, so you tune in next week for that.

1896
01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:01.520
I just got to say thank you so much to

1897
01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:06.039
Christine Horn. I thought I thought she was phenomenal. She

1898
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:07.640
was a lot of fun to talk to and I

1899
01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:10.239
think that I think she enjoyed talking to.

1900
01:50:10.239 --> 01:50:13.199
Us as much as we enjoy talking to her, and

1901
01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:17.239
that's refreshing. So thank you so much Christine for coming

1902
01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:18.119
on the podcast.

1903
01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:22.760
It was great, absolutely great, And before we go, I

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want to say thank you so much to Paul for

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hanging out and trek talking with us. He had to run,

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but thank you so much, Paul. Thank you so much

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to Eric as well for hanging out and trek talking

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with us.

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Thank you, Eric, you Bet, thank you all.

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And thank you to V for hanging out in trek

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talking with us as well. Thank you, Thank you V

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and Moopsie and Whoopsie. And thank you so much to

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David for hanging out with us and making these awesome

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podcasts come to life.

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Thank you David.

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Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. I enjoyed it.

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And of course thank you to Charles for hanging out

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in trek talking with us as well.

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Thank you, Charles.

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Always fun, always great interviews.

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A lot of fun. And I've got some more in

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the works. I'll let you guys know as they develop.

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One of them, of course, is Adam Nimoy. The son

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of Leonard Nimoy. That's looking to be in October, so

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I'll keep you guys posted. All right, I'm your most

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excellent host, Uncle Jim, saying, everybody please remember just stay

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safe and be good to each other. And Star Trek

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fans are the best fans. Hailing frequencies are closed. Everybody,

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good night, good.

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Night, night, live long and prosper.

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I say, ready for departure, sir, some problem, right, I'm

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just hoping this isn't the usual way our missions will go.

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Said, oh, no, number one. Actually, most will be much

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more interesting. Let's see what's on there.

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I guess not really.

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I the personal
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