Episode 651- SNW "What Is Starfleet" Discussion

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0:47 Talk about the series. You can join up. Your phone down talk about. The series. Is now so well, good evening trek Is and trek Is around the globe. It's Thursday, August twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode six hundred and fifty one of Truk Talking. I'm your most host, excellent host, Uncle Jim, and with me tonight, i'd like to introduce my awesome trek spirts. We'll start off with Paul the toy guy.

1:44 He's out in Portland. Are you doing tonight, Paul. Uncle Jim, You're okay, it's been a good day. It's been a good day. Ready to do a little salacious Gavin with your absolutely. And we also was Eric who guess what, he's from Portland as well. How you doing? Eric? Doing pretty good? That intro was making me think about all the stuff I've been reading about this upcoming new Highlander movie and Henry Caravell beeing Connor McLeod or the Clan McLeod or. He kidding me. I'm I'm interested interested to see where it goes. Although generally speaking, remakes. Are without shaka. I could make a I could make a pun there, but I'm gonna let that one go.

2:31 And we actually it's a Russell Crowe who's going to take over for mister Connor's. And we also have from you guessed it Portland, our very own miracle worker himself, David. How you doing tonight, David? I'm doing pretty good. I got myself a tog cut. I noticed you got a couple of them caught. Doing pretty good. It's been a very day today for some reason, usually have been like cloudy in the last couple of days. But yeah, it's called the sun. It comes out from time to top. Okay, little secret, don't tell anybody, and not from Portland, but from Virginia. We have v with us tonight.

3:17 How you doing tonight? V Right, trying not to panic, to get ready for that upcoming con next weekend in New Jersey. Looking forward to that. So it would be if I had to go to New Jersey too. It would be glorious. Okay, Just you just alienated anybody who's who's. We love in New Jersey. The only thing I got I don't like about Jersey. You can't get there from here. No, I have to take taking a train, and then I'm renting a car to go to the hotel where the con is, and I'm staying there and meeting a bunch of star trek stars.

4:02 So me. It will be glorious, I'm sure. So before we go too far, I just want to let you guys know that you can find all of our shows and all kinds of great stuff at trek talkin dot com. So head on over there and check it out. You can also become a patron on our Patreon page. There's a nifty link there that you can find, and make sure that you visit us on Facebook, at trek talk and and beyond. There's all kinds of great stuff there. Polls and you can rate the episodes and just hang out with other like minded Star Trek fans and have fun. On tonight's show, we're going to discuss the strange New World's episode. What is Starfleet? We'll try to answer that question for you tonight. We also have our fans shout outs, and that's where we say thank you to fans all around the globe, just like you right there, and we have our polls Scotty versus Scottie h and Pike crosses the line. We'll see what the fans thought about that.

5:04 What Star Trek actor do you share a birthday with? You'll find out on our Star Trek Birthday segment. And wonder what's going on around the Star Trek universe. Mister Shatner is back and Shatner says what and could Archer return to the Star Trek universe and could we possibly have new Star Trek action figures? Well, guess what, Paul the toy guy is going to fill you in on that one to night. So without any further ado, I'm going to turn things over to Eric and he's going to get us started with our fans shout outs. Take it away, Eric, all. Right, Jim, our first fan shout out goes over to that most amazing island of the UK. Stoke, England, is where Phil bones Kingston Hill's from, and he's sending us that beautiful Union Jack flag. Phil, thank you for listening to the podcast and thanks for supporting us in all the ways that you do. Appreciate it. I haven't been to Stoke, but I kind of feel like I want to go now. Thanks Phil. Also saying hello this week to Shelley Bell. Shelley Bell is from Tugulawa in Queensland, Australia down Under. Thanks Shelley for saying hey to us.

6:16 We always appreciate support from people from the Southern Hemisphere, most amazing place. I also hope to go one of these days. Saying hello this week as well to Judith Barley, who hails from Berlin, Germany, a most amazing city with a storied history. Thank you so much, Judith for supporting our podcast and live long and prosper to you. And last but not least on my list, we're saying hello this week to Francesco Frascati, who, if you couldn't tell from the name, is from Italy. Thanks Francesco for saying hey to us. And I'm going to pass this big shout out megaphone now over to our good friend V A R V.

6:57 Who do you guys have? First foremost Jill Meadow Smith, who says, yes, there really is a Kalamazoo Michigan. And Jill, I know that you didn't have to tell me because my ex husband was in the Navy and he was on the USS Kalamazoo so named for your beautiful city. Next we have Joey and I'm sorry if I mispronounces Dines from Florida, but don't hold that against me. I actually know how to drive, Joey. Have you seen how people drive in northern Virginia. Next we have Brian Schilders from Tulsa, Oklahoma, where the wind comes sweeping down the plane. Next we have Ryan Carlson from Omaha, Nebraska. All right, now I am sending this on to Paul.

8:01 Thanks, they appreciate it, my friend. Okay, first of all, we've got. A salutation coming our way from the Emerald at Universe aka Ireland, where we have Maria Veronica Spano reaching out to us here flag proudly flapping in the wind, and Marie's. Letting us know. Great show, guys, from the Republic of Ireland, and that's fantastic, Maria. We always get a lot of people letting us know what they think about Star Trek, but very few actually weigh in and let us know what you think of this show, which we'd love to get more of. I think it would be great if more fans would just sort of you know, hey, what do you think about the format? What do you think about what we do on the air?

8:43 Right? I think that could be a good poll question down the road, Uncle Jim, maybe we should dog here that for consideration. But Maria is pointing the way, and you know you don't want argue with any of it from Ireland. I'll tell you from personal experience. Moving on, we have Bob Wright saying hello. Bob is from the UK, been a trucky since he was a kid, which is a very long time ago. Jokingly, it's still a trucky and plays Star Trek online on his Xbox. Bob, it is great to hear from you, a fellow British citizen, as I am myself so delightful to know that your enthusiasm still kindles buddy. And then we're gonna move a little bit further off the UK zone. There into Cotton and proper head over to Antwerp in Belgium, where Wendy de Wolf is saying hello, Hello, Wendy. Wonderful to know that you're out there. Belgium is a fascinating place and a lot of interesting things going on there, and Antwerp is certainly full of incredible history. So good for you and thanks for saying hello. I'm just down the road from Wendy.

9:51 We're gonna pop over to Zwickau Simpsony in Germany and see our good pal Dana Ludwig, who is also a big Star Trek fan and loyal follower of the show and a faciok page. So do pop in, folks every now and then. Let us know what you think of the show, what we're talking about. Are we out of our minds? Well we know that. Are we crazy? Do we push the needle too far or not far enough? You be the judge, You let us know. It's your voice that matters most here on track talking. Isn't that right? Uncle Jim? I couldn't agree more, Paul, I couldn't agree more. And I want to say thank you and hello to Jerry Lee who's listening to us right now in San Antonio, Texas.

10:34 I also want to say hello and thank you to Rod Owens who's listening to us in Boone, Iowa. And Sally Doloman McCartney who's listening to us in Minnesota, US of A. And last, but definitely not least, our good friend Mindy Foster, who's listening to us right now in Naples, New York. And the United States of America. If you guys would like to hear your names mentioned, I'm a future fan. Shout out head over our Facebook page trek Talking and beyond you'll see the big livelong and prosper pin to the top. Tell us where you're from. Leave emojis. It gets my attention and more than likely we'll get your name mentioned and send us a picture. Like you guys aren't seeing the video, but there's Paul hanging out with a Faringhi, and there's all kinds of great pictures going by that you guys aren't seeing unfortunately unless you're a patron. But if you send us your picture, we'll get it right up there with all those great pictures as well. Just one more thing I got to say, let's go met swept the Phillies over the weekend and are making a push. So let's see what happens with that and best of luck. All right, guys, Well, while you're on our Facebook page. While you're there, you can also vote in our polls. And speaking of which, it's time to play the poll in song.

12:04 You know me like no win what you thought about the show? Then we try to share your opinions with all of our minions out there because they listen worldwide. So tell us just what you think. Get together, we will alter Canar and robylin An. That's an awesome song. I think we got to get the guy that sings that song on the podcast as a get yeah, he can share with us. Yeah, I agree, you know. All right, So this is a fun part of the show where we just I just throw random questions out there, see what sticks to the wall and see what you guys had to say. So uh, David roll the tape.

12:57 On Starfully Orders. We were holding to our side of the line in the Gordons so far for holding to theirs, unfortunately, that is where I believe our people are being held. I don't plan on leaving them behind. You want to cross the line. Which is why I'm not ordering any of you to join this mission. I'll take volunteers, but I'll go alone. If I have to, I will go. I want to do what I can to help. See if Captain Cantel and there's a Chample who I hope made it to the services, well, I. Certainly feel the same way. Not to speak for the crew, but I believe we all do. Thank you number one, Mistress Buck and Sonora. But I was thinking we might need the three of you, along with your particular skill sets here to keep us out of war with a Gord. If you're taking volunteers, I'd like to sign up.

13:39 Last time I saw the Gorner, I was scared out. Of my wits, But I'd appreciate another chance to study them up close with. A phase it. How else will we determine how best to kill them? I would like to aid study. I'd like them dead as much, if not more, than the rest of here. That's not enough. We don't know what we're walking into each own there. Phases might not be enough. I have something to mind. Help to transport a chief Jasionship transports still functional? Yes? Do you transport create thirty two directly to readiom Please authorization Pike keep Salani acknowledged Captain transporting. All right, so you saw the clip. What's the question, Eric?

14:23 The question is, in the Strange New World season two finale Hegemony, Captain Pike violates orders spoiler alert and crosses the Gorn demarcation line to rescue Captain Battel. Do you agree with his decision? And the most surprising thing about the response here is that only ninety six percent of our responder said yes. I think we must have had an outlier four percent said no. And I would love to. Hear if Charles were here his diet tribe on following orders in the military, except of course he would totally agree with the ninety six percent, so as we all would, right, And you could say, oh, writing blah blah blah, that's why, of course it has to be ninety six percent. But like you know, this is kind of like a star Trek thing where they people are like, you got to do this stuff, and they're like, dewy though, And if we do it this way, isn't it more moral And isn't it more in the way that Starfleet would actually mean to respond to this thing? So yeah, of course, yes, of.

15:26 Course well, it didn't really matter because they weren't there anyway. Well, and what's interesting is that, of course, like there's the ready room situation here where they're all talking to each other and there's like eight senior officers that make the decision for you know, two hundred and three crew on the ship. So I'm sure there were plenty of people who are like. No, don't cross the demarcation line. But I don't know. But they're following orders too, so yeah, who knows. Well, we're gonna look, we're gonna talk about that a little bit in tonight's episode. What is Starfleet? Aren't we? But yeah, I think I think that I think he did the right thing. He went after his woman. You know, he's not going to leave her there to to turn into a gorn. Come on, right, we've already seen the links that he would go through for her. So yeah, I think he did the right thing. It would have been a short episode, did he did, So yeah, I think he did the right thing. To hell with orders both speed ahead and damn the torpedoes.

16:28 What do you think, Paul, Well, I think it's a it's a bit of a broad assessment, you know, the question says across the dmarcation line to rescue Captain Battell. If you're paying attention to that scene, it's not just captain Butttel. That is the justification. It's all of their crew, everyone who is being held a captain, So it's not that he's doing it is a purely personal thing because of his woman, as you know western he is. That may sound right, there's a whole bunch of their people and all of the other are citizens of that colony planet that are being held captive, So it's really you know, yes, she's part of that, but it's really the larger fact that there's this huge influx of Federation citizens and Starfleet crew that are at peril. So that's the justification. If it was just Betel herself, I doubt if he'd do it, frankly, but we'll never know because the show hasn't written that way.

17:24 But really, I think there's larger stakes at play here than just his girlfriend. I mean, I think the questions have phrased a little broadly. Well, V, what do you think? Yeah, I agree with this decision because, like you said, there have been multiple times over the Star Trek franchise where a captain violated orders to rescue people. And speaking of military, I think it's I know they're an elite group, but isn't the don't the Seals don't they always say never leave, they never leave a man behind. So just for just just for Charles and his militaristic.

18:14 That's actually the village people of the who have that slogan. But yeah, but like you said, it's more than just Captain battel and like and like very much like the Yeah, but also Pike knows his fate. What are they going to do to him? You know? That's that's worse than what he already knows. That's true. I mean, that's a really great point V because there's a whole bunch of stuff that happens in the Strange New Worlds wherein we know Captain Pike has this plot armor, right, because he already knows when he's gonna die, so he can get every get away with whatever the hell he wants. From a personal point of view, if I knew something like that, you know, i'd say, you know, screw screw Starfleet, I'm gonna go ahead and do this. What what can what can they do? Me?

19:01 Hm? So yeah, that's that's my that's my take on it. All right, David. So you got the caboose on this one, buddy, what do you think I go? Now, Yeah, I have to agree with me. I also have to agree with Paul, and I have to agree with h the idea that, yeah, the it was the entire colony. He knows his faith. I'm just gonna have to say yes on it because it's just the fact that, you know, he Captain Pike. All right, that's cool. He's gonna he's gotta hang out with Viena and Tallos four a little bit later on in his life. So he's got his retirement all planned out already. All right, So let me see here, David, we have another poll question. Uh. Yeah, you want to roll the tape.

19:56 Ye you're not gone, obviously you're gonna walk down too. My Gorn trap and the humans you detected, is that we box right there, programmed to send out auditory and pheromonal life signs at regular intervals or dimension heat signatures. Fool those dumb lizards and most scanners. Sorry, my manners. Montgomery Scott, at your service, Lieutenant junior grade. In a shuttle, you ran from the Gorn in the shuttle. How are you not dead?

20:37 Firstly, a jury rigged the engines to increase the capacity. And secondly, well, I've figured out how to hide and plain sight. Sounds resourceful, and when I'm. Mad of human eating lizards come my way, I can get quite creative. Tried to knocking on the doors will be blowing it off. Complex balance of force fields, tractor beans and precision guided diodel hardwires. Mister Scott, I need a solution. Uh, I can manually. Reroot powerty and small increments that. Should give me something? Do it? Do it now? You've got roughly thirty seconds of acceleration. How is this supposed to be something that could help his head from the gone?

21:23 If you can fix it? Yeah, you're here, pray if I stopped doing your job, your daft. Piece up, mister Scott. Everything okay, So we'll be once. I've form a few things out and put. Them back proper. And how long will that take to do it right? Two days? Because your ships so banged up it wasn't worth stealing. Well, then I need you to perform some miracles, mister Scott. We need engines and weapons in that order. I I picked an either. Option Okay, that is a bold and if you don't mind me saying highly unorthodox choice. All right, you saw the video that David put together for us, Eric, what is the question for our fans?

22:10 Uh? Do you like Scottish actor Martin Quinn's take on the role of Montgomery Scotty Scott on Strange New Worlds? And I must say, David, outstanding clip show you put together there. Roughly one hundred percent of our responders said, of course I like my Martin Quinn's take because who wouldn't. This guy's totally rocking it. I got to give a lot of credit to the writers, but of course his performance is the thing that brings it to the camera. So the writing of Scotty right now is fantastic and Martin Quinn is totally nailing it as far as I'm concerned. And one of our responders agree with me, or rather I agree with them, what do you guys think? Have we ever had a poll with a one hundred percent?

22:52 I don't think we ever have? Have we? No? Because usually I answer in the negative just to give us a little bit of parody. But. Yeah, in this case, uh was what we got? Eric? Is that one guy sometimes not on the last ball, but sometimes. How about you, Paul, what do you think do you like the new Scottie? Oh, he's terrific. Yeah, and just making sure this is working because the audio keeps disconnecting on me. So good. Yeah, I think he's great. He's a he's a real breath of fresh air. I mean, it's you know, one of the things that I think throughout all of performing, right is when you step into the shoes of a really iconically established character, it's super you know. I mean, the it's a lot to take on, right, I'm filling someone else's shoes, right, and he's just doing a great job.

23:47 He's not trying to he's just bringing his own take to it, right. But he's not you know, imitating what we saw in the JJ Abrams films or anything like that doing does He's just being himself and doing it in a really great way that just, you know, I think nails the character, makes him likable, and I just think for me, the word with this Scottie is authentic. Right. He really just seems like he's really coming across in a really authentic and engaging way. He hasn't had a chance to really go broad comedy yet. But I love his nervous energy. Right, but he's just you know, basically like you know, he's like human duct tape, right. He's the one thing that's preventing, you know, the enterprise from just blowing up into a million pieces most of the time, right, And that's just great. It's a fun angle for him.

24:34 So more of that if they can match the casting they did with Martin Quinn when they find whoever. Ultimately he's gonna play Lender McCoy. Wow, look at it. So to me, he's got the bar at the top right now, all other you know folks, you know that's what you gotta aim for, is beat this guy. So I think he's wonderful. Yeah, we just gotta you just gotta push Pelly out of the air lock somewhere so we can get more Scotty. I actually think that Pellia like Scotty, makes a Pellia a better character, which is one of the other cool things about the writing, right, Like she was kind of starting to get annoying, and yet as a mentor where she's kind of like letting him, you know, float on his own or get pushing him out of the nest.

25:21 I totally dig that about her, So it's cool that he's made her better. Absolutely absolutely. How about you, V You like the new Scott? First off, he's adorable and just his but yeah, he is making that role his own with that nervous energy like you said, And I agree with Eric that he's making Pellia a more likable character because she is his mentor and I'm going to help him become the Montgomery Scott that we come to know and love. So yeah, I'm I'm totally but yeah, he's just I'll say it again, he's just adorable.

26:09 She's uh, she's got to get him into the whiskey though, you know, he doesn't drink at. This point in his career, he doesn't drink. Yeah, Pelly has got to get him to krakenso some of that Scott, you know, so he becomes the Scotty that we all know and love, which I'm sure he will add some Sure what about it, David, You like Scotty? Oh yeah, I'm I I'm actually surprised of what all he can do to uh, you know, play the role of Scotty from the original. So I'm actually gonna be tried what they do with the other character that are going to be coming in and if they end up doing the reboot, I hope that they all lean him in and it's gonna be really fun to watch.

26:58 Yeah, if that last episode was any clue as to what they can do with it, I think it's gonna be something special for sure. All right, guys, well are we ready for some little some trivia? And you know what that music means. It's once again time to put on your thinking caps and join us for Star Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim. So we're running out of Star Trek episodes. Unfortunately, we only have three left, so there's not gonna be a lot more trivia with Uncle Jim unless we do Alien trivia or Star Wars trivia whatever we happen to be talking about. But we're gonna let the ladies go first, and we're gonna start with v You ready, V Yes.

27:41 These are some really tough questions because I thought them up the other night, So these are gonna be really hard. We'll see if our listeners can keep up and do better than our Trek spert. So V yes, who said there is evil in the universe as sure as there is good, sure is there is matter as sure as there is, like I know that being was ancient and malevolent. That was Pellia. That's right, that was Pellia, So one for the truck spurts. All right, you guys listening to. Say, she's seen some stuff, so she knows. She's she's she's old, she's older than yodare.

28:25 Yeah, she's seen some stuff. We're gonna put the spotlight on you, buddy. You're ready with your new flashy haircut. According to his log entries, how long has ensn Dana Gamble been serving aboard the Enterprise? Oh crap, uh, I want to say it was like six months? See ding ding ding ding ding ding. See truck spirts are batting a hundred. All right, all right, Paul you ready, I'm gonna toss the meatball at you. Here we go. What band was Pelia a roadie for?

29:08 Yeah? Yeah, there we go, which brings us to Eric. You're ready? Sure? Okay? Who said your species can communicate with the dead? I believe that was also Pellia talking to Ortega's right, when then it. Was it was Pellia talking Togas. But Pelly is not the one that said it. Oh did Ortigas say it? Yes, Ortegas said it. Okay, so Ortega's yeah, uh oh your species right, that makes more sense. Yeah, I remember the conversation. Okay, yeah, Ortegas said it to Pelia.

29:57 That's right, all right, you're ready. Okay, this is who said, I'm glad I lived through the nineteen eighties. You no, I know you give give me something, that's yeah, once again, Pellia. Yeah, what the hell I must have I must have just had Pellia on the brain. Wow. Next, give me something that challenges me. Man, I know it's so so David with skills, we know the thing, we know the themes. Gus So David, what does Pellia pull out of her chest that she refers to as creepy looking? Wait? Her chest?

30:46 Wait? Wait, she had that? She had that chest full of stuff chest. I want to say it was, Oh my goodness, she had so much stuff in there. I saw a telephone, I saw a game thing. Uh, I want to say, Ah. If she wanted to steal it from David, pull the truck spirts out, go for a ball, go for a Paul.

31:27 I'm pretty sure it was the kit Cat clock, wasn't it? Yeah? Right that yeah, and she throws it over her shoulder. Incidentally, had that exact same clocks. Such a great clock. Yeah, the guys in the tail. Yeah, all right, Paul, Sorry, this is odd sticking. I don't know how I ended up with the sticking with the Pellia theme. So here we go, All what two members of the Enterprise crew did Pellia teach at Starfleet Academy.

32:10 Well, you have to be have been a very, very heavily medically induced coma not to know that it. Montgomery Scott is one of them, because they've referenced in every single episode. But I believe that the second member of our crew was good old Una Chin Riley aka number one. That's right, And I can't believe this question number ten, Going to Eric, here we go, it's you know what it's about. When Pellia hands Ortegas a phone in her quarters? What does Ortagis think it is?

32:54 This is one of my favorite moments, of course, right, because you're starting to imagine that. Yeah, Ortegas wonders if it's not a personal massager. Yeah, so that they still have those in the future. And that's kind of an interesting shape. I could see how. That can that one. And the way she says it, she kind of like does the eyebrow thing that Ortegas does, which is just fantastic. The way she delivers that line is great.

33:36 The way the doctor looked at it, it was almost like she was about to laugh and stuff. Yeah, she wants to borrow it for the weekend or something. That was great. Yeah, that was that was great. So, guys, that wraps up our Star Trek trivia. I hope you had some fun. I'm just trying to lighten things up and have some fun with you guys. And I hope you guys listening at home got all the answers right like my incredible Truk Sports did. And uh, now it's time for some cadet training. And this is the part of the show where Charles. Normally we'll tell you, guys other episodes or movies you could watch that tie into the episode we're about to talk about. But Charles is not here, so I'm going to attempt to fill his shoes the best that I can. So cadet training for what is Starfleet?

34:28 We only have five that's unusual. Usually we have a whole page fall but that's okay. Yes, we'll do the best that we can. Okay, So first, the first cadet training is Star Trek generations. Uh, the ship had a film crew recording the launch. He's referring to Captain Kirk and Scottie when they were on the bridge of the Enterprise be that wasn't going to have tracktor beams or photon torpedoes until next Tuesday, and they were filming, right.

35:09 But this is our first like real like documentary style anything of any Star Trek right. Right, But that's just a reference. So, okay, got it? And Enterprise these are the voyages Season four, episode twenty two. The film crew is recording the speech of Captain Archer, so and we're we're going to talk a little bit about that particular speech perhaps a little bit later in the podcast. So we have Star Trek for the voyage home the Whale Probe. You know they were the whale Probe was destroying Earth's oceans with the beam. I think that's a reference to the jin Kantu creature that came out of the ocean and was going to destroy all the spaceships. Also brings us the TG encounter our points season one, episode one and two. Uh, the captured creatures, the jellyfish creatures.

36:10 Crystaline entity, right, and that's that's something. Yeah, that was from a different episode. Sorry different right, you're right, okay, sorry. And last, but not least, we have the Discovery episode Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad, Season one, episode seven with the giant space whale that Tilly later on had a piece of when they were on the Klingon home world before she realized she was eating. I forgot what the name of that whale was. But so that's our cadet training for this week. I apologize.

36:51 One more episode. It's tg I don't know which season and which episode, but it's tin Man with that entity that wanted to you know, Tam l Rond, the friend of of what's her name, I can't think, Deanna Troy and how he can communicate with it, and then winding up that it just it wants to It's ancient, it's tired, it just wants to, you know, and it's you know, it just wants to die. So he just wants to retire in Florida. Retire in Florida. Same thing.

37:32 Yeah, yeah, episode. Yeah, yeah, tin Man. And oddly enough, I was I was at a convention with Denise and Michael Akuda and when they were in tin Man, that weird sound that's in the background, That organic sound. You know what that was? Michael Akuda ate a bunch of pizza and his wife recorded the sounds of the pizza digesting. What Seriously, No, I'm not. They wanted an organic sound that was real and organic and digesting. Okay, watch that episode. You can think of eating pizza. Now.

38:22 I want pizza. I forgot I forgot to eat dinner. So yeah, pizza. All right? Guys, what when you're over on our Facebook page every Thursday, I post a question, I ask you guys to score this week's episode on the scale of one to ten being the best and leave a comment tell us what you thought about it or didn't think about it, and then we we tabulate those and so we're gonna have Eric tell us what our fans thought about what is Starfleet? Absolutely we start out with rising Rich Miles, and rising fan means that you haven't quite attained the status of top fan, but you are working it. So thanks Rich for working it. Rich Miles says ten out of ten.

39:12 The episode was brilliant. The documentary format was spot on. Loved all the stats on the screen. I love that they are pushing the boundaries and not having every episode be the strange New world of the week. Here's the creativity and variety double exclamation point. Thanks Rich Miles, Rich Navante, No sorry, Novatnae. Novatnae says also ten out of ten. A lot of people won't get it. This episode will age well and go down as a classic. Ugh, don't disagree with your rich, Thank you so much. John Kelly gives it an eight out of ten. Not as exceptional as last week, but not a let down either. A different perception of the crew and starlet enjoyed it. Top fan Adrian Chow says I will give them four out of ten as I understand the story and said it was a documentary fiction story as what's Starfleet mean to them?

40:14 Thanks Adrian. Jerry Riley says, my initial feeling is that it's not a complete failure. Okay, just to disappoint me, you know, you know, sort of you know where it's headed. Four out of ten. That's sorry, it's Jerry. We respect his opinion. I felt that they were omitting details of the mission for drama because it was revealed by the end. It wasn't hidden for too long because as soon as they revealed they were moving a lifelome to a war zone. It was almost predictable. I immediately thought of Roga Dinar in the TNG episode The Hunted, which did not make Charles's cadet training, so honestly, like, I don't really even remember that was. I'm gonna have to go back and watch that one. Thanks, Jerry, appreciate it. Tracy Jane Evans said in my humble opinion of five, I'm glad you are all enjoying the season, but I've only enjoyed two so far. Just my opinion though, all right, that's fair, thanks Tracy. Jerry Sidersburger said perfection. It was a nine.

41:23 Dennis R. Booth b great last name by the way, said I would give it a ten. I like to think that it is exploding new perspectives. Oh I love that idea, exploding new perspectives, seeing a different side of Starfleet. The series ending is logical in keeping with the five year mission Ingrid Monshank Fronzo said seven point five. Slow start, but I love the ending and angela Iles gave it a nine on IMDb, but may increase it to a ten. It was a brilliant episode and we'll watch again and again.

42:03 And that, along with those fours and fives, gives us a fan score of seven point eight this week. Very very respectable. So Paul, you want to give us a quick rundown of the episode, sure, are happy too. We are talking about what would be episode seven of season three. What is Starfleet? Okay? And so in this situation, what we have here is a little bit of a novel device used in terms of how the episode is shot. Because Pike here. Paul, can anybody hear Paul.

42:43 Not coming through you right now? Bummer? There he is? Can you hear me? Okay, he's gonna he's gonna duck out and. Come, oh there we go, There we go. He spoken, Oh he talked out. You know, we can vamp for like two or three. So it totally is. And I'm just like kind of astounded by the variety of scores we have here right Like, it's not like everybody rated it a six or seven. It's like there are a bunch of fours and there are a bunch of tens. So I'll be I'll.

43:25 Be interested to hear what all of you guys have to say about it. Was it a perfect episode? Maybe not? Maybe not, but certainly our fans thought there was a lot of variety to it. I'm always interested when it comes to the fans in terms of how they rate episodes, Right, are they rating them against previous episodes of Star Trek that they've seen? Are they rating them against what they think is the best possible episode of Star Trek? Ever? Do they have a specific metric that they pay attention to, Like, you know, is it a morality play for example? Like that's one of the things that I find I bring up to myself when I'm watching new episodes of Star Trek, because I feel like Star Trek differs from a lot of other science fiction in that there's always, well, not always.

44:22 There's often in the best episodes a lesson to be learned or a question to be asked that has no specific answer. And I think the best episodes of Star Trek and I'll die on this hill, I think Two Vicks is one of those best episodes of Star Trek ever, because it doesn't have a correct answer to it, right, should Jane Way have killed him? Should she have not? I don't know. It looks like we have Paul back and Paul I have vamped for a minute and a half and I'm hoping that we. Can hear you, buddy, Okay, yeah, not loving this riverside format.

45:03 Just to be clear, do we still want a summary or have we moved? Let's summarize. I haven't done anything about that. Okay, yeah, Well I can't imagine how you could talk without mentioning this. But the whole I can the whole. The framework of this episode, which I want to say, is episode seven of season three. I'm pretty sure, right, is the Pike and the crew are being subjects of a documentary, right, And we've never really seen anything really in Star Trek done from the perspective of like an in camera documentary that's made by somebody, right, And in this case, the filmmaker is Ortegas's brother Beto Okay, and we've seen him in a couple of episodes. He's sort of been the sort of super non threatening love interest for Lieutenant Devora, right, well not lieutenant yet but ends Innua, right, So that's kind of been his role. And he's like a filmmaker surprise, which we didn't know, and he's making this documentary Star Trek, but he may have another agenda behind his filmmaking to basically peel back the onion of Starfleet and really get into the idea they're presenting each member of the crew he interviews. It's like a moral dilemma, the tension space between the ideals of what are supposedly the Federation and Starfleet and what actually goes on in the reality is when faced with interstellar conflict. So he's really questioning the real purpose of Starfleet. Is there integrity?

46:37 Is it a colonialist enterprise for pardon expression. That's really where he's coming from there, So interesting to put that up there. Supposedly he's making this for the centennial celebration of the United Federation of Planets. They are escorting a cargo that's initially a little mysterious to a planet that's embroiled in like a civil war with its sister planet at seven and Kasar, and we always like, I think I caught the end of this, Eric, you, we're talking about moral dilemmas in the Star Trek being effective. Absolutely moral. That effective Star Trek is a moral play that either gives you a question to answer or a thing to think about, or or maybe there's no question at all.

47:20 Yeah. Absolutely, And so. In this case here, it's like we're choosing sides, right, which never happens in the real world, right, But the mission to help one race in the Nile Shallar situation may, and it writtenly couse arm to another, and it forces the crew to run into a complex ethical you know, conundrum if you will. So this is this whole documentary style filmmaking leading to it, and he's very Beto is really pointed about asking the's real sharp questions and uncovering differing opinions among different members of the crew, asking them to contrast the you know, supposed principles of the Federation against real world situations, and we start to get a sense that he really has a lot of skepticism and actual resentment towards Starfleet if I'm reading the character correctly. There.

48:12 But it's an interesting frame, right because, as it's supposed to be, Starfley represents the Federation, right, not just a space faring service, but an organization of like values and ethics and ideals. And so it actually, more than we've really gotten seen that much, takes a critical look at where the Federation's going versus what their ideals are versus how they actually perform. And then we start getting into a whole idea of another species being used as a means of enforcing the agenda of what the mission may be, and how do you respond to that when it is a military structure and you're kind of obligated to follow orders.

48:55 So that's basically the setup on there. I'm happy to pop back in later and give you my rating on this thing. And we've already heard what the fans thought and there that fan feedback section, by the way, was brought to you by Prune Juice in case Eric did mention that. But always good to acknowledge our sponsors if when we can. But that's kind of set up. So a lot of handheld, kind of fancy camera work, a lot of graphics on screen, a lot of contrast with things that may or may not be going on in the real world right now as we know it. So I'll pop back in later and grade it. But that's a setup, all right. Thank you, Paul, Thank you so much. So David, you want to start us off this week? Oh, focus right in on the dun Du Switzerland has to speak.

49:51 I love the pressure. So this was an interesting episode. I don't think Star Trek had ever done a particular episode like this unless I'm mistaken. I'm for sure someone can quote me on that. But yeah, the way that they did this kind of reminded me in a way that we've all been talking about kind of like if they ever were to do like any kind of other film of like uh, an alien race out there, you know, like if they were doing a show about Cleanons, you know, and they're all trying to like see what Starfleet was doing, and it's just kind of like breaking it up in their pieces here and there throughout the entire episode, so you only got fitching pieces of information and all of a sudden it was like the climax at the end and everything like that, where if there was a perspective of a you know, one person view or like say, uh race into the view in a sense where like if the Cleanons were like trying to see what the Federation were doing, just how I would imagine that they would film that type of show. But to me this in particular way, I do have to agree with one of our fans who it should say it was kind of slow at the beginning. I was like, wow, where are they going with their because it took a while for them to really find out what was really going on.

51:21 But to me, I think this episode in particular way. I don't know, Maybe I have to watch it a second time, but for some reason, to me, it just didn't really raise the bar for me. But I would have to give this episode probably a seven if I would be honest, because I might raise it again like that one fan said, you raise it to a ten after a nine. But yeah, I think I have to go through a second episode watch with their show. I think that's my take on it. Well, David, I watched every episode two at least twice.

52:02 I watched it the first time too for the podcast, to analyze it, see what I thought about it, check out the different things. And then when not because it's on Thursday, when I get up to camp on Friday, I'll just I'll just kick back and watch it as a fan, just to just to watch it and not think just watched. The first time I watched this episode, I hated it. And I'll tell you Paul can probably relate to this. In my opinion, the worst and I talking worst in Spock's brain, the worst Star Trek episode ever with shades of gray, terrible, piece of pooh pooh, awful. Why was it awful because it was a flashback clip show that showed us clips and flashbacks that we had already seen, gave us nothing new, added nothing to anything.

52:52 Waste of time. This episode comes in and as Paul said in the intro, Beato has been with us for five episodes ish. Maybe he was there filming the the Death of Ensign Gamble. He's been there filming pretty much every episode that we have seen so far. And when they showed the documentary, I thought they missed a huge opportunity to go back and show us things from perspectives from the episodes that we didn't get to see in the episodes themselves, like maybe talk to Ensign Gamble about going on his first mission where we all know how it's going to end, or you know, there was a lot of things they could have done. He filmed a lot of footage, and instead they showed us all footage from a mission that we hadn't seen and ignored everything we had seen. And that kind of rubbed me the wrong way, and so I was like, Wow, what a bummer.

53:55 But then when I went back and watched it a second time, because I told you guys, I watched it twice. When I went back and watched it the second time. I enjoyed it a lot more, and I felt that this episode might have been a better episode if it wasn't a documentary. I think the story could have been good. They could have really you know, like, were the Klingons working with the Lakarens for real? Were was the Federation aiding a race that was in bed with the Klingons. There was a lot a lot of political intrigue and a lot of things that were floating around in that episode that just weren't explored or really you know, talked about other than around the table. And I just felt that the actual mission itself would have been more interesting had we not seen it cut up the way we did.

54:46 So you know that that knocked my score down a little bit the second time I watched it, but I did. I really liked Whra's little speech at the end when after she throws Beto out and tells him not to come back, and then at the end he comes back and apologizes, and then she basically says, you know what is starfleet? And she lays it on the line, and I was like, you go girl, two thumbs up? And yeah, I was like Okay, So my original score, I was going to give it a four. The first time I watched it, I was not overly impressed. Second time I watched it, I bumped it up to an eight. So my final score for this episode is an eight. What about UV, Well.

55:32 I agree with the fans that rated it a ten or a nine because I watched it. I wound up watching it three times because I was just so I guess, enthralled with the Jakaru that was a beautiful ethereal creature and just the you know, learning what the scientists were doing to it to make it an instrument of war by altering it. As that one scientist that they try to save, you know, she winds up dying, but she realizes what they were doing was a mistake. But you're right, it's about morality. Is it right to take a living creature and use it against your enemies? Which, of course, as far as I'm concerned, the answer would be no.

56:25 But I sort of liked the documentary because I think Beto is because he's angry that his sister almost died. But I like the way her reminded him, you know, like you still have your sister. My best friend from Starfleet Academy. I just recently learned died when the Gorn attacked her ship, and she's not around anymore, and I've lost my family. So it's almost like, you know, shut up your little whiny baby and be thankful for what you have. But I really, I just I don't know.

57:09 It was just something about about that that creature that just spoke to me and I meant to watch. There is actually a you can look it up a YouTube little episode where they are talking about making that creature. But I think they did a beautiful job because it was just this ethereal, beautiful creature that was turned into something horrible. And I got it as a you know, as a mother, you know, of course, it just sort of ripped my heart out when they find out she's worried about her children and that Pike promises that they will not be altered to be instruments of war. So I think I'll give it a It was a solid nine point five for me.

58:00 Yeah, this episode. There was episode Friday's Child. I believe it was where the Klingons were helping the inhabitants of the planet wage war against the other inhabitants of the planet. Was that Friday's Child. Friday's Child with. The Klingons were in Friday Child. But you're thinking of a private, little. War, private little war, that's it. And at the beginning of the episode, I paused the screen and the one race I forgot who they were. Paul, there was two races, two planets in this particular episode. One planet had like a billion deaths, like an astronomical amount of deaths. The other planet was minuscule, like nearly none. The planet that was getting wiped out is the planet that the Federation was going to help, and they were the ones that were enslaving this creature to try to, you know, get the war to end. And I didn't catch that until the second time I watched the episode. Not that it matters, but it made me think of that other Star Trek episode where the Klingons were nefariously you know, working in the background. So yeah, Eric, Eric, buddy, jump in here and tell us what you thought. Go ahead, lay it out, lay out this crooked band of snakes. Make it straight.

59:25 Yeah, So okay, So gosh, I don't even know where to start. I guess the style of the show, right, So it's documentary style. We haven't really seen that before, and I really really. Liked that aspect of it. I liked that it was. Bringing like so we've actually kind of mentioned on this podcast before when you bring too much modern day stuff, whether it's music, I think we've often talked about it in the context of music, but when you bring too much modern day stuff to Star Trek, maybe it yeah makes you suspend your disbelief too much. But this episode clearly had that, Like right at the very beginning, they had the whole disclaimer about this stuff has been declassified and it's okay to show you this and and that sort of stuff. It didn't that part didn't bother me.

1:00:29 And the fact that Beto has been present over the last many many episodes and his little drone has been flying around recording stuff I thought was was really interesting. And the fact that it started out hard hitting, like he was asking hard questions and he was kind of on the you know, I want to say negative end of the spectrum, but like he was he was asking uncomfortable things of people there, you know, which actually led to some unsatisfying moments, like like saying that's classified, Like we still actually have no idea from this episode why Starfleet was actually running guns to this one race but not to this other race, so that that sort of bugs me a little bit. They didn't, I didn't really resolve that, and I feel like that was a huge part of this episode. So the fact that they didn't do that bugs me. But we also have as which didn't show up in Cadet training, but as a sort of like, uh, you know, thing from the past that plays into this. We had Jake Cisco as a writer, and to me, he was he was commenting on Starfleet through his writing and that sort of stuff, and I was constantly reminded of that as I was watching this episode.

1:01:55 But generally speaking, I really like the documentary style. I like that they had footage from both Beato's flying drone thing and from secret cameras apparently positioned all over the Enterprise, Like there's probably like a thousand cameras on the Enterprise. It feels like London and the Enterprise is the same thing, Like no matter where you are, you're always on camera. I feel like that's okay in a in a pseudo like benevolent fascist sort of universe. Like Star Trek.

1:02:36 Yeah, but I mean, let's be clear, like Starfleet is very controlling in a lot of ways, right, and yet they do it for a moral high ground that seems to come through I don't know. I think Starfleet is one of the most fascinating things that's ever been put on television because it seems to somehow Hoops seems to somehow balance like both sides of that that coin. So anyway, Okay, so the cameras are great, the documentary style is great. The concept of Starfleet delivering a weapon, especially an organic weapon, to another race to help fight against another race seems extremely non Starfleet to me. There was a moment when I really wanted them to tell me whether or not the one race that was the defender against the aggressor was a was a member of the Federation or not.

1:03:45 It didn't really deal with that, and and I know that Starfleet has you know, preference toward I mean, Starfleet is sort of allegory for groups like NATO, right, a group of nations that sort of come together and decide to do the same thing together. They never tell us in this episode whether or not the the the good guys, the underdogs are a Federation member and they're being sort of you know, aggressed against by the bad guys, so that that part really bugged me about this episode. Didn't I didn't know why Starfleet was running guns in the first place. But I will agree with thee that the creature was absolutely amazing. Like when she comes out of the ocean and she goes into orbit, I was like, Oh my god, my mind is being blown right now.

1:04:37 She was so beautiful. And then she's got this like ultimate power that's just like this big wave that kind of comes out and like disables everything that's around it. I mean, that was that was super duper cool. And then you find out later that she's being forced to do what she you know, is doing, and I don't know, there was this moment there at the beginning of the episode as like, what the hell is Starflely doing. This is not star Trek at all, And then there's a moment later where Pike says something like, well, Starfleet has given us orders, and it's okay to do the thing that we're gonna do, which is fly the creature into the sun. And it just felt a little disjointed to me.

1:05:23 I didn't feel like this was the shortest episode of Strange New Worlds we've seen yet. It was like forty minutes, and it didn't do a good enough job of connecting the reason that Starfleet is supporting this thing to the reason that that was a bad choice. And I think that that's actually a perfect Star star Trek theme in general, like we're gonna do this thing because we feel like it's really really the right thing to do. Oh shit, it's not the right thing to do. We're gonna not do the thing. It just this episode just didn't bring those two like pieces together for me. So anyway, the ending felt a little bit rushed to me. I feel like some of the morals of Starfleet are in question here.

1:06:14 There were some nice moments in the episode, don't get me wrong, like the the you know when Spock's talking about like fleeing to the Plane of Blood, which as soon as he said that, I was like, haven't I heard of the Plane of Blood before? Oh? Yeah, that was right. They talked about that in that episode of Star Trek Enterprise, Vulcan's Forge, which is one of the it's part of that cool trilogy of Vulcans Forge, Terry Incognita, and something else that I can't remember right now. In Star Trek enterprise great episodes. There was the moment when Spock brings the cup of coffee to la On, which is like a nice little kind of callback to their relationship that's happening, but it was super subtle and not forced and not actually a main part of the episode at all.

1:07:00 So I really really liked that. And there's the whole idea of Spock talking about his own esperating as a vulcan right, like they're more psionically active or attuned than humans are, And that totally took me back to Elizabeth Dinner and Gary Mitchell from that original series episode where no one has gone before, So that was kind of a cool like connection back to the original series. So this episode for me overall felt a little hot and cold. There were aspects of it that I really really liked, and then I thought were really rich and had like a lot of legs, and then sometimes they just didn't bring it home. It was like carrying the football ninety eight yards and get into the two yard line and get into the old and just not quite scoring the touchdown. So so this was actually of the season. This was the hardest episode for me to rape overall, because there were parts that I thought were a five, and there were parts that I thought were a ten. So I guess I'm going to average five and ten and give it a seven and a half.

1:08:14 I don't e get. I might change my mind tomorrow, but right now, seven and a half is where I'm landing. All right, Well, Paul, that means you get the caboose on this one, buddy. You've heard all the truck spurts. So well, we lose Paul. Hello? Did we lose Paul? We lost Paul? Hello? Okay, turn Unfortunately, I say, real. Quick, how about now about there we go? There we go? Keeps dropping out, so I'll try to go. Yeah. Interesting episode. It felt a little gimmicky to me. The whole idea of like, you know, we're gonna do this is like document documentary stuff, right, which kind of felt a little dated for me. I like the thematic idea of using that as a device to you know, kind of question the ethos of uh starfleet and is it really a mechanism of colonialism? I thought that we don't hear that very often right in in star Trek. But so I thought some aspects of the story, we're good and high minded and UH and certainly meant well, all right, But as far as it fitting into the overall flow of what's going on this season, I felt like it was a real uh, you know, sluggish. You know, I'm wanting to keep up with what's going on with like spockx dynamics, with things, what's going on with this supposed

1:09:47 gornism of Battel, all these things that I want to know about show up. Yeah, I feel like these things didn't happen, and I always felt like it really disconnected me. What's going on with Chapel was her dynamic? I felt it was really interrupted the flow of things right. And I also have to say, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I find the Beto character super annoying. I found it was just his whole manner which is really off putting to me. I did not care for him. As they say, I'm sure he's supposed to be a little bit of an antagonist in this episode, but he seemed like an very ingratiating antagonist, And so when he finally gets the riot Act read for him, I kind of liked it, and hopefully I would hope that after all that the events of this episode of where it's like, nah, I don't think so, thanks, but no thanks, I just don't like you that way, Beto. Right, Hopefully it's more one of those resolutions because I'm really kind of done.

1:10:48 With the character. I just assume not have him. Maybe he's going to become gore and showder in a future episode. We don't know, but I'm not sure. But yeah, So for me, I mean a lot of things in terms of the ruhre that were nice. I like that the moment that Eric mentioned about, you know, spot handing the coffee, that is great. I mean I suspect that's all the actors, you know, and not the screenwriting would be my guest, because it just it just felt like something that actors would do to like enhance, you know, charisma, and I like the subtlety of it. So for me, as though back and forth, I don't think this episode I'm gonna get a lot of joy out of watching multiple times. I think I got it just one shot, one viewing. I think I'm rated for more diving in to the stirm and dragon of the regular season's rhythms. Right, So for me, I think, you know, because I do respect where they're going, what they're trying to do. I'm happy to give it a seven, but I think that's about it, and there were certainly some aspects of the episode that were weaker than others.

1:11:49 So let's move on. Let's get back into the vibe of the ongoing episodes and plan out what's going on with their characters. So for me, seven done. You know, I agree, Paul. I think I said this last week. They got there their gimmicky. They got to let Star Trek be Star Trek and stop trying to come up with the gimmick of the week and just let Star Trek grow and be Star Trek and not try to be all these different things. Just let's Star Trek be. So all right, So, Eric, I guess you're the new Charles. So we've heard from our Truk Spurts, we've heard from our minions. So how did we stack up next to the minions?

1:12:34 We did pretty good. Actually we got us seven point seven from the Trek Sperts. So that is what the what the minions get here, they. What we forgot. We forgot Charles. Oh, oh you know what I can Yeah, you're right. Oh it's actually not going to move the needle, but I will totally read Charles's review of this so he said, when I first saw the episode start, I thought back to MASH when they did a show from the view of the reporter. I was disappointed in how Betel Orteigez treated Uhura, though he wants to have a relationship, being very rude, how he treated her and how he told her how her friend had died. Yeah, that was kind of weird. The retracted was a little overused. How did a reporter get access to the ship's bridge cameras? Jim and Paul both question that Strange New Worlds doesn't have a focus this season. This episode just made it more confusing.

1:13:39 Disappointed that neither Scotty nor Pellia appeared in the episode. What was the purpose of making the documentary? That was never clear? Overall score seven point five. So that doesn't really move the needle at all for us. So that's a seven point seven from the Trexperts. All right, what Cho said are interesting is we're well framed. I like, especially like the MASH call back. Yeah on yeah, yeah, absolutely, And he is kind of a bait it way was kind of a dick to right, I mean he was kind of basically, you know, kind of uh, you know, not so nice. Yeah, I mean that is that is one hundred percent true.

1:14:21 And uh, I don't know how many filmmakers you guys know, but but there's this kind of like aspect of them when they're making something where they're trying to bring out aspects of people that wouldn't normally necessarily be on display, that they pushed the limit a little bit, like they they ask Devil's Advocate style questions in order to pull this forward. And if there was another failing of this that I didn't talk about, it was the fact that he's like, well, it was really all about me being mad about my sister, and I'm like, no, dude, you are a documentary maker. Your literal job is to ask the questions that nobody else is asking, and even if you don't believe in what you're asking, it is your job as the filmmaker to be the one who asked those questions. So I thought it was a little bit weak actually that he copped out on the on the I met about my sister aspect of it.

1:15:22 Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, Eric, they didn't have a clear focus. I didn't think. I think you're absolutely right, Paul. How how long. How long do you. Have, Paul, like, probably realistic five minutes? Do you want to jump? I got this story specifically for Do we want to jump to your news story right now? Can we do that? Can we make that happy David? And then we'll swing back? All right, Well, guys, we have a special news story that I put in here specifically for Paul, and I scoured the internet to collect pictures of these things just for Paul and David video wow, and I will will Paul take it away?

1:16:09 Go ahead, Paul, all. Right, I'll be quick. So thanks, guys. I appreciate you understanding another commitment I have to do tonight. But of course, you know, as Charles would tell us if he was here. Recently there were Star Trek Las Vegas, right and it's a huge deal, gigantic convention, and the Nacell Toy company was there and revealed some sneak peaks for the second wave of their big seven inch upcoming Star Trek figures, including Sailor Jordie and Saylor Wharf. What are we talking about, Well, let's take a look at these pictures. Nasell, the company behind the new officially licensed one twelve scale Star Trek action figure, so that's in the six inch to seven inch scale Marvel Legends Star Wars Black Theories if you're a collector of those type of things. They revealed the first look at renders and prototypes for the Romulent Commander from the original series, which is pretty sweet. Mark Lenard of course, dy La Forge Generations Sailor Edition and Wharf Star Trek Generations Sailor Editions, and they're kind of like Napoleonic Master and Commander type Garb and Valerius from Wave two of the line. The news comes on the heels of a successful San Diego comic con that saw the full lineup reveals for waves three and four, as well as prototype reveals of Catherine Janeway are really ripped Year of Hell edition, nog Favor the Bold Edition from Wave two, as well as Niota Uvura from Wave three. Looking pretty sharp.

1:17:32 I gotta say, really really great. Brian Volkweiss, he's the CEO of Nasel, definitely compliments. I have not seen any of these in person yet, eager to get my hands on some there so looking pretty good, good from day one. Brian Volkweiss has proclaimed that this new line of figures are made by passionate Star Trek fans for Star Trek fans right Nzelle took the first first approach even further by creating an email address artric Ideas at the Cell company dot com. Ooh, I'm going to email them where fans could submit their ideas on what figures they want to see next. Due to fan feedback and demand, ni Cell expanded the selection for Wave two from eight figures to ten, while mixing in some familiar faces like Wharf and Jordie to Paul and Nog, who's someone who's never believed in the no win scenario. I'm quite happy with the community's reaction to our figures, said the Cell see Oh Brian Bolkwiss. It's still all very surreal, but couldn't be happier if I tried. We got to get this guy in the show, Uncle Jim. I mean, he's just he's stirring it up because it was I initially thought this is like a joke or a gimmick, but it's not one of the upcoming figures from I want to say Wave three or Way four. He's doing like Beverly Crusher Ghost Candle Edition, if you know what I'm saying. Okay, I mean, it's just that's crazy. It's why I look at that Lieutenant Whoa and Patreon fans can see what I'm talking about here in the video and maybe we'll push that on the old YouTube there for folks to

1:19:03 take a look at. But really great looking figures. There's a big one from Generations with Pederal kirkw with a horse, a full sized frickin' horse and like a stump to chop wood on. I mean very He's super generous with the accessories on these figures. That is one thing that's just like outrageous, I mean really really amazing. It's crazy. I hope we can put as many of these figures up on these pictures up on the Facebook page to just titillate folks because it really is astonishing and looking great likenesses I think probably by the best Shatner likeness I've seen. So I'm super excited for these to start showing up. I'm a little hesitant to pre order things these days, what with the whole tariff situation, and I kind of like to just get stuff in the wild if I can find them, so hopefully my local comic book shop will enable me. But they look great. I mean the prototypes look fantastic. If the final product look as good as these prototypes do. He's kind of and he's doing stuff that no one else ever does, so it's really exciting first time ever stuff, right, I mean that we've never seen produced ever two fix figure Come on, did we ever think we'd see that?

1:20:13 No? So I mean really bold stuff and deep cuts I think seem to define where Brian Bolgweiss is going. So again, if you're out there, sir, come on our podcast, we would love to interview with you at length, and definitely we can all throw some really cool ideas your way as well. So super excited. Again, if you feel like you want to email these guys, it's Star Trek Ideas at Nassell Company dot com. That's NA C E L L E Company dot com, like you know, the twin NA cells that power the starships. In case you're a little slow following. So again, but Uncle Jim, thank you for making time for me to chat about this and fit this in to an otherwise crazy evening. But go get some action figures, friends, and stay young at heart is my advice. And I can't wait to watch the new episode of strange your world's late tonight. Thanks Frends, love you.

1:21:10 All right, Thanks a lot, Paul, and we will visit with you again next week. I had to get this story in just for you, so all right, I have a good night, Paul. We'll talk to you next week. Bye bye. All right, guys, that was the toy guy, Paul talking about toys, and we're gonna we're gonna swing back around to our Star Trek birthdays and then we'll swing back to the news. We got a couple of more news stories, and we always start off our Star Trek birthdays by remembering those members of our Oh wait, wait, wait, I'm getting ahead of myself. I got thrown off. Hold on, that was not a clemon song.

1:22:05 Okay, now we're back on track. We always start off our Star Trek birthdays by, sadly enough, remembering those members of our Star Trek family who are no longer with us, and for that we turned to Eric. Yeah, Jim. This week we start our remembrances with actor Oliver McGowan, the character actor who played the Caretaker in the nineteen sixty six original series first season episode Sure Leave. Mister McGowan was mostly known for his seventy five guest appearances as various characters on various shows. One of his earliest appearances, at the age of forty nine was in an episode of Maverick alongside Arthur Bentonitez, who of course was our Lieutenant Dematto from the original series. So one of his earliest appearances was when he was forty nine years old.

1:22:59 I love it. This guy made a career in the second half of his life. Happy birthday to Oliver McGowan lost all the way back in nineteen seventy one. Happy Birthday as well to w Morgan. Shephard, the British actor who played four characters throughout the Star Trek franchise. He appears as Ira Graves in the TNG episode The Schizoid Man, the Klingon Commandant in Star Trek sixth, The Undiscovered Country, a Tie in Voyagers episode Bliss, and the Vulcan Science Minister in Star Trek two thousand and nine. While doing additional dialogue recording for Star Trek two thousand and nine, he told the film's director and producer JJ Abrams, not realizing who he was speaking to, that the director was a slave driver.

1:23:48 He apologized later after Abrams revealed himself to be the director of the movie Wait to Speak Your Mind. W Morgan Shepherd lost We lost him back in twenty nineteen at the age of eighty six years old. Happy Birthday to you. Happy Birthday as well to Graham Jarvis, the actor who played Clym Dokachin in the Next Generation fifth season episode Unification Part one. Outside of Star Trek, Jarvis was part of numerous television series. He was a regular on Mary Hartman Mary Hartman, on which he played Charles Hagers from nineteen seventy six through nineteen seventy eight and from nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety nine. Jervis had a reoccurring role in the computer game series known as The Journeyman Project as Sarah's slash doctor Elliot Sinclair. I have not heard of that, but I'm not a big gamer, so I'm sure that somebody out there knows more about this than I do. Jarvis later made appearances as Charles Jackson Jackson in numerous episodes of the series Seventh Heaven.

1:24:55 Happy Birthday to Graham Jarvis, Happy Birthday, as well to Georgia sh Schmidt, the actress who played the first Telesion in The Cage, the first pilot episode, of course, of the original series. Footage of her appearance would of course later be used for The Menagerie Part one and Part two. Her additional television credits include things like The Monkeys, television series, The Wild Wild West, Family Affair, The Odd Couple, The Incredible Hulk, and TV movies like A Killing Affair and Terror at Alcatraz. She did a few movies along the way. The one that's most notable to me is she was in The Andromeda Strain from nineteen seventy one. Happy Birthday to Georgia Schmidt lost all the way back in nineteen ninety seven at the ripe old age of ninety two years old. Happy Birthday as well to Janet McLaughlin, the actress who played Charlene Masters in the original series first season episode The Alternative Factor. She made her television acting debut in The Alfred Hitchcock Hour in nineteen sixty five, but definitely her most notable television role was in the nineteen sixties. She played Layla in the nineteen sixty seven episode of I Spy. McLaughlan was also a prominent television actress in the nineteen seventies, during which she was reunited with Bill Cosby on The Bill Cosby Show. In nineteen eighty she made three appearances as the housekeeper Polly Swanson

1:26:26 in the sitcom Archie Bunkers Place, and in ninety four she made a return appearance on Murder. She wrote in. An episode that also starred actors like Robert Beltran and Marta Dubois. Happy Birthday to Janet McLaughlin, lost back in twenty ten at the age of seventy seven years old, and last, but not least, on our remembrance list we remember this week. David soul born David Richard Solberg. He's the actor who played Macorra in the TOS second season episode The Apple. Best known, perhaps, however, for playing Detective Ken hutch Hutchinson in the television series Starsky and Hutch.

1:27:08 I think we've all seen that before. He also had a cameo in the film version of Starsky and hutch which of course co starred Rachel Harris and Fred Williamson and was produced by mister Akiva Goldsman himself. In two thousand and four, after his appearance on Star Trek, he starred as the Middle Bolt brother Joshua in the TV series Here Come the Brides. He also played Rick Blaine in a short lived television series adaptation of Casablanca. So lots of interesting stuff in David Soul's IMDb IMDb page. Unfortunately, we lost him just about a year and a half or so ago January fourth, twenty twenty four, at the age of eighty years old. Happy birthday to David Soul. Eric.

1:27:55 Yeah, let's not forget the movie that scared the pants out to me as a kid. Oh, Salem's Yeah Yeah. In nineteen seventy nine, he starred as Ben Mears in that mini series and that was I think is still considered one of the best, like television mini series adaptations of any Stephen King property. There are a lot of them out there, but Salem's Lot from the seventies is still really, really, really good. Jim and I agree, scared the pants off of me. Manid was scratching on the window. I had nightmares like forever after watching that. So David Soul, amazing, amazing career. Thank you so much for your contributions and to that really really creepy adaptation of Salem's Lot. So uh V, let's bring it back to the living. Who would you like to say.

1:28:51 Al Well, I was going to say with David Soul. Didn't he have a hit song back when in the Starsky and hutch days called don't give up on This Baby. I seem to recall, Oh, if that could be Yeah, I think, I. Think, yeah, I mean, I know he was known as a singer. Yeah, all right, So let's start out with John Snyder born August twenty third, nineteen fifty two. He played the role of Bokra in the TNG third season episode The Enemy and Aaron Connor in the fifth season episode The Masterpiece Society.

1:29:33 I just want to shout out John Snyder because The Enemy is one of my favorite episodes of Star Trek the Next Generation. It is so good and if you haven't seen it for a while, you should definitely rewatch it. Absolutely that's Star Trek at its best right there. For sure. I'll have to check that out. And now an episode that I watched recently, where we have Tiffany Elise Taubman born August twenty fifth, nineteen eighty five. She played Tresa in the Star Trek Voyager second season episode Innocence, and that was a very poignant episode where you think that some creature is taking these innocent little children. Turns out they're doing the reverse aging thing. I guess you would call it the Benjamin Button effect. But that was I thought that was a good episode. Next. Eric Steinberg August twenty sixth, nineteen sixty nine. He played Paul Porter in Star Trek First Contact and the Ankari Captain in the Star Trek Voyager sixth season episode Equipnip, Blip all Right, Equinox Part two, which was Part one and Part two.

1:30:57 Those were intense episodes. Ken Jenkins born August twenty eighth andineteen forty he's the actor who played Paul Stubbs in the Star Trek Next Gen third season episode Evolution. Then Last, but not least, Jennifer Lean born August twenty fourth, nineteen seventy four. She played Kess during the first through third seasons of Star Trek Voyager and the fourth season episodes Scorpion Part two and The Gift, and she did reprise the role for the six season episode, which I thought totally was dreadful and did her no favors. But that episode of Fury where she comes back and she seems to forget that Jane Way tried to help her. Now she's coming back trying to destroy the ship. But anyway, Happy birthday to Jennifer. All right, Oh let's see.

1:32:02 So Eric, you want to do some living people. Yeah, sure, I'll take Paul's birthdays. This week, we're gonna say Happy birthday to Melinda Page Hamilton, the American actress who made her television acting debut as Feasal Flox in The Star Trek Enterprise second season episode Stigma. And if that last name sounds familiar, that's probably because she is the second of doctor Phlox's many, many wives. So, Melinda Page Hamilton, thank you so much for your contributions to Star Trek. Your birthday is August twenty second, and of course you're still with us despite the fact that I am reading your birthday stuff. Happy birthday as well to Bobby Sue Luther born August twenty seventh. She's an American model turned actress who played an unnamed Orion slave girl in the Star Trek Enterprise four season episode Borderland. A new take on the Orions, I will say as Star Trek Enterprise has kind of a cool thing going with the Orions. Although they leaned into the slave girl thing kind a heart, so, you know, Bobby Sue, thank you.

1:33:09 Stephanie Belding is somebody we'd like to say Happy birthday too. She's only fifty three years old. She's an actress who portrayed Shira in Star Trek Discovery's third season episode Unification Part three. Little did we know we would actually get a part three to an episode that was how many years old? Thirty years old, something like that. Stephanie Bulding, thank you so much for keeping the story going for us in Star Trek Discovery. Discovery. What a great series, and what a great continuation of that ongoing story. Happy Birthday as well. Coup two Costulo Guera, an Argentinian actor who played Mendoza in the Next Generation third season episode The Price. Happy Birthday, Costulo, and last, but not least on this list, Happy Birthday too. Guess who?

1:34:00 Melissa Navia. That's right, the actress who plays Erica Ortegas in Star Trek Stange New Worlds. And I don't think it's too much for me to say that Erica slash Melissa. We freaking love you girl. Your character is amazing. We love your attitude. On the Bridge. We love your occasional insubordination and yet total commitment towards Starfleet ideals. The writing for your character is fantastic, and Melissa Navia is doing a great job totally nailing this character of Eric Ortegas. Thank you so much for your Star Trek contributions. You are just like Krem de la Krem when it comes to Star Trek actresses. So, Jim, that does it for Paul's list of birthdays? Who else would you like to talk about today?

1:34:50 And let's not forget she flies the ship. She does fly this. They leaned kind of hard into that too, but yeah, no, she does fly the ship. That is true. I really, I really like her, and I hope that she doesn't end up as Gorn fodder because we know she doesn't end up on Kirk's enterprise, so I hope that they do her show. She'll go somewhere else. And she's already been stabbed through the gut with Gorn grossness and lived to tell the tales. So I have a feeling she's in it for the long haul. Yeah, she's gonna be around for a while. So I only have two birthdays and I always take the Klingons obviously, but my first one, I've got to wish a very happy, incredibly happy birthday to the highly talented, incredible Christopher Pine.

1:35:41 Who the hell is Christopher Pine. He plays Kirk in the JJ Abrams movie Star Trek, Star Trek Into Darkness, and Star Trek Beyond, and I think that I think the casting for these movies was perfect, particularly Bones carbl urban Is Bones is incredible, and I think Chris Pine played a great Captain Kirk. And if it wasn't for the chemistry that these guys had, I don't know if we would have Discovery or the Star Trek that we have today. Because these movies, fans can hate them if they want. That's fine, you have a right to do that. But I think that these movies right here proved to the bean counters that Star Trek lives and that they can make money on Star Trek and it's an equitable investment.

1:36:23 And because of that we have this, you know, Star Trek franchise still around. So happy birthday to Chris Pine, and thank you for playing Captain Kirk. And my last birthday, we want to say Copra or Joe Lantru to Brian Thompson. He's an actor from Ellensburg, Washington who appeared in several episodes of Star Trek, The Next Generation, Deep Space nine, and Enterprise. He appeared as in Glantu. In the DS nine's episode Rules of Acquisition, he appeared as Tomron Toros, and DS nine's To the Death he appeared as Admiral Valdoor at Enterprise is Babel won United and the Enar.

1:37:13 That's the one where they were controlling They had to telepathic Nar the White Andrian, and they were controlling her to attack other ships with this shape shifting ship. And I'm not sure if the Valdor, if the Romulin class Valdor ship and Star Trek Attack wing was named after him, or he was named after the ship. But his name is Valdor, and the ships that we see, the Romulin ships that we see are also Valdor class. Coincidence could be. But the main reason why we mentioned him is because he appeared as a Klingon in what I think is one of the best Klingon episodes TNG a matter of Honor, he played Lieutenant Klag and there he is right there on the screen. And if you guys haven't seen it, or if you don't remember, this is the one where Riker is in the exchange program and he beams over to the park and to be the first officer, meets Clagg right there. He's gonna take on not one, but two Klingon women and he eats Gock and the whole fit Klingons want to attack the Enterprise, and well, go and watch it. It's excellent because Riker really shows off as Chops and earns the respect of Clag. So happy birthday to Brian Thompson and Jim.

1:38:37 In case you're interested. Because Valdor was from that earlier time frame and the Star Trek attack wing ships come much later. The ships were definitely named for the admiral, So okay, admiral first ships, later ships later. There you have it. So Brian Thompson and if you guys watched the X Files, you might recognize him, so go and check him out. On the X Files, he played the alien bounty hunter as well. So we went out of order a little bit because I just had to have Paul get into toy story because he's our toy guy. So we're going to go back now to our Star Trek news, which means.

1:39:21 Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secure channel. Incoming transmission enter authorization code, command codes verified. Define parameters of program level nine authorization required, specifying parameters Transfer updata is complete. A B alert black alert. All right, guys. As part of the show is where I try to collect some interesting Star Trek stories, some news things that are of interest to me that I hope are of interest to you. You can find all of these stories in their entirety on our Facebook page Truk Talking and Beyond. And as I said at the top of the show, this is one of our favorite segments that we like to do. And I will turn it over to Eric.

1:40:10 Yes, this is my personal favorite. Chatner says, what that's right. He's in the news again. Actor William Shatner, ninety four years old now or should I say ninety four years young, announces some personal news. William Shatner, best known as Star Trek's Captain Kirk of the Starship Enterprise, continues to be a force of nature. From his memorable role on Star Trek to his real life journey into space, Shatner is constantly exploring new frontiers in his incredible career on screen, on stage, and even on the page. He recently took to his official Instagram to announce a deeply personal new project that will reflect on his most iconic roles and celebrate the people who made Star Trek the phenomenon it continues to be today, his fans. He says, my dear followers, I wanted to drop a bit of a teaser. A teaser, Shatner wrote, I'm writing a new book. Even better, the book is all about you, the fans, and you can be a part of it, maybe even be in it.

1:41:17 That's right. According to the website Shatner shared to be a part of the new book entitled William Shatner and you fans need to pre order the book before December thirty. First, when you pre order, fans will have the opportunity to submit stories about how Shatner's most iconic characters, from Star Trek's Kirk to Denny Crane of Boston Legal, have impacted their lives. From those narratives, a select few will be interviewed by Shatner himself and featured in the book. Hold on to your Phaser, Shatner wrote on his website, this isn't just a chance to own a piece of history.

1:41:57 It's an opportunity to make history, to have your voice echo across the galaxy alongside mine. Wow, what a cool opportunity. It does feel a little bit like winning the lottery. I can imagine that, like many, many, many people, we'll be trying to get in on this v Have you pre ordered your. Copy of No? I have not, because I'm trying to think what sort of a what could I write that would you know, practically guarantee me a chance to be interviewed by Shatner. I think you're not alone. I know there's five hundred million people.

1:42:40 Trying to I have to confess that I ordered the book and I wrote him a lengthy story about how wonderful Star Trek five is, what a great director he is, and I just went on and on and on and really stroked up his ego. So hopefully, hopefully I'll be in it. But we'll see. It's a pretty pretty solid choice there, Jim. Yeah, I can't imagine there are that many people that are going to bring that much love for Star Trek five to the to the party, way to go. You guys know it's that, It's true. It's I mean, I it's you know, it is my favorite movie. And talking to Lawrence Luck and Bill was awesome. Spice Williams was awesome. So you know, maybe I'll maybe maybe he'll have me in his book and I'll have him on the podcast.

1:43:29 That would be unbelievable. And if we know that if there's anything mister Shantner likes to talk about, it is himself. Yeah, yeah, that that is true, That's very true. I mean, I don't know. It seems to me, it seems like a gimmick. It seems like a way to pump up sales of his book. And do you know, it totally does. And yet there is going to be a certain number of fans who make it into the book, right or there are going to be a certain number of fans that make it in the book, And so you know, the selection criteria I'm sure will be very interesting, like what's he feeling that night? Which story perhaps piques his interest?

1:44:18 Who knows? It's a total gimmick, But but you know, has he earned the right probably, you know, probably he's Shatner. He can do whatever he wants. He can do whatever he god. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not really you know. I think you're gonna get selected Jim, Like, honestly, I think you're in like the top like ten percent of possibilities here. Yeah, then I'll have to have him come on the podcast and talk about Star Trek five. You guys don't have be here if you don't want to.

1:45:01 No, no, I have to hear him talk about it. I want to be here this yam and talk to him about the triple episode. There you go. So William Shatner and you guys, is there a way for people? Is there an email address or a website or anything. Not that I want people to compete with me, but you know, for our fans. I do think that. Uh yeah, you can pre order it on William Shatner and you dot com and that's probably your easiest way to do it. I'm sure you could get it from your local uh you know, bookstore or from Amazon or something too. But if you go to William shatneranu dot com, I'm sure that's the one that's going to get his attention.

1:45:45 If you want to come up to takanor Roga New York in November, he's going to be here for William Shatner Weekend. I think it's his ninety seventh visit up here or something like that. Uh, he will be here and you can come up and talk to him in person and check out the original series set to our wire there and maybe no, it'll be winters. Maybe maybe you'll be able to meet Uncle Jim and touch his battlets. I'm not sure if I'm going to go up there. And the weather can be kind of tough sometimes that time of year, and Tykonderoga is way up in the middle of nowhere. But Jim's right, the said tour is one hundred percent worth it. Man. Just to be on that set and to sit in the captain's chair is pretty special.

1:46:27 It is cool. And there's a gorn up there too. And there's a corn and there's a I. Mean, the old joint is is pretty cool. Yeah, just walking down the corridor is even fine. Actually, I not to like digress too much, but like, one of the areas that I thought was coolest about the Tykwon Taikonderoga set was the medical bay and the like medical bed and all of the like readouts and stuff. And there's like Captain Kirk's quarters, and then there's the ready room with the triangular screen. I mean, there's so many cool things to see. It is neat, It's definitely worth it. On the medical bed and McRoy says he's dead. Jim, I'm sure if he greased the right bollm, you could do that. V.

1:47:10 Yeah, and I'm a business card telling me from Trek talking. Yeah, definitely. All right. So V has our next story for Yu, which is an. Interesting Scott Bacula's Star Trek comeback. Oh boy, uh did you get that reference? Oh boy? Yeah, all right, thanks got it, thank you. That's what that's I was a huge fan of Quantum Leap. All right, all right, So Scott Bacula is eying a return to Star Trek in a new TV series twenty years after playing Captain Jonathan archern Star Trek Enterprise. Bacula led Enterprise for four seasons on the upn After Enterprise was canceled in two thousand and five, Bacula Winnen went on to start in two and a half Men and Ncis New Orleans, which was I watched that that. He was great in that. He earned his fifth Primetime Emmy Award nomination for Behind the Candelabra. Star Trek Enterprise has gained a greater following and appreciation in recent years, prompting hopes that Scott Bacula would return in Star Trek the way Patrick Stewart reprised Jean Luke Picard in Star Trek Picard.

1:48:37 After years away, Bacula has renewed his ties to Star Trek, appearing at the Peabody Awards, guesting on the Dcon Chamber podcast Hmm he needs to be on our podcast too, uh huh, and making his first appearance since twenty sixteen at STO the Truck to bagas twenty twenty five convention. Star Trek United would be about Jonathan Archer's time as President of the United Federation of Planets. The Scott Bacula's proposed series would be a political thriller and a family drama set in those chaotic formative years of the Federation.

1:49:26 This was an idea that excited that an excited Bacula was really intrigued by. Susman hopes Star Trek United would do for Star Trek what Andor did for Star Wars. As a show where you can tell adult stories about adults and tell them in a very grounded, realistic way, Susman says, Bacula likes the idea of a different take on Jonathan Archer, and Star Trek United offers a different direction for the former Starship Captain in order to to avoid conflict with Star Trek Starfleet Academy, which is set in outer space in San Francisco, Susman's changed Star Trek United setting to the planet Babbel, tying it closer to Star Trek the original series as a journeyed to Battle, which introduced Babbel as a galactic diplomatic hub. Of course, Star Trek United would be set in the late twenty second century, one thousand years before Starfleet Academy. New Paramount CEO David Ellison is a Star Trek fan who executive produced Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond. Ellison also announced that Paramount will have a new focus on streaming, promising we are committed to increasing investment in premium exclusive content.

1:50:56 All right, bring back lower decks. That's an interesting, interesting show. I just say that I am like totally psyched and stoked for this because I feel that Enterprise really missed the boat when they didn't go to the Birth of the Federation. They had Shrand, they had all the character, they had everything set up and they just decided to go off on Zindi, Cold Wars and all kinds of other stuff and didn't focus on the birth of the Federation. And I, for me, that's what I wanted from Enterprise. I don't know about about you, guys, but I wanted to see the formation of the Federation and they didn't give it to us. So if this is the case and they they want to do this with Archer, I'm I'm down for this, guys. I think this would be absolutely awesome. Jeffrey Combs, I mean, you know, it has been a long road getting from there to.

1:51:58 Hear all right. That is the one Star Trek theme song that I just cannot Sorry, I tried, I just cannot. Yeah, you know, Eric wrote a I don't have it on this particular platform, but Eric wrote a really awesome UH I wish I could find it Enterprise parody theme song, but I don't have it to play for you guys. But Eric, what are you do you think this would make a good series? I absolutely do. Yeah, I mean I since day one on this podcast, I have touted UH Star Trek Enterprise as an underappreciated series, and yeah, there are some Zindi things in there that get kind of boring after a while. But there are some fantastic episodes of Star Trek Enterprise that really are very tricky, and I like the kind of raw cowboy nature of the series when it first starts. You know, humans are kind of jerks, and I sort of like that different take. They're not the Jean Loue Pocard perfect Starfleet folks that there are. I'd be interested to see Jonathan Archer in a different light because he was one of those jerks right at the beginning. But clearly he would be changed by the Zindi War. Clearly he would be changed by the fact that seven million people were

1:53:28 lost when the Zindi weapon attacked Florida and killed Tripp's family. So I'd be very interested in seeing this kind of a series. You know, I've been quoted as saying certain things about Scott Baculu's acting ability, but the character of Jonathan Archer, I think is a fantastic character and I would absolutely love to see this series. Yeah. Yeah, And I think the fact that he's been on so much other than Star Trek, I think they're banking on him drawing fans from Cross pollination type of thing. You know, fans that were, you know, fans of him on CSI and whatnot, would check the show out. And setting it on a planet versus a starship, I think would attract fans that might not watch a starship based show.

1:54:18 Well, yeah, Jim, and I think the the which you alluded to, I think the sort of weak ending of Star Trek Enterprise would actually draw more fans in because they would see it as an opportunity to sort of, you know, give give that series a different ending, so to speak, than the Holo Deck recreation that it ended up being. And we might actually see Trip Tucker as well. Depending on how far in the future they go. Trip might not be dead yet, or maybe that was all a Holodeck dream and it never happened. We can debate that on another show another show. Well, from what V also mentioned that this would cut in twenty years after Enterprise, and it's been twenty years to this date, well from the last episode came out in May, but that was two thousand and five when it came out, and so this is twenty years now later.

1:55:15 So if they start filming, he's gonna look twenty years older. So it's gonna be kind of interesting to see how they take it. I think they have the potential for a really interesting, really good show, show us something we haven't seen before, the Federation being diplomatic and getting all the you know, reaching out to the Polians, meeting the Polians, getting all these people together and not necessarily flying around in spaceships but actually doing the nitty gritty, you know well. And Jim hopefully recapturing some of that. We don't exactly know what we're doing aspect of Star Trek Enterprise, you know, I want to see the beginnings of the Federation not being perfect. I want to see them making bad decisions and you know, trying to do things like living with their hearts and trying to make good decisions but not always getting it right because they haven't totally figured it out yet.

1:56:14 Yeah, I think yeah, between this and Star Trek Year one with the Strange New World's Kirk and Scottie and that cast and Starfleet Academy, I think Star Trek has a great future and I'm looking forward to seeing where they take it and be a part of it and get as many of them can on the podcast. So well, guys, look at the Clock you know what time it is. We did it. Wow, it's time just flies right by. So next week we're going to be talking about four and a half Vulcans, and I got to I'm going to give you, guys, I already watched it. I got to give you guys a little tidbit. You need to watch all the way to the end of the credits, okay, because this Star Trek doesn't do this very often. They did it once with the Trouble with Trouble with Edward. They had an after credit scene with the with the Triple Cereal. So when the episode ends, don't just shut it off. Watch it all the way to the end because there's an end credit scene, just to warn you guys. All Right, So that's the episode we're going to be talking about.

1:57:27 Next week, we'll have more birthdays and uh, I'll have some more trivia and I'll try not to do them all about Pellia this time. I'll try to come around. It's just that Pellia had so many you know, she said so many things that stuck in my brain that they just all popped out all at once, and she just had Pelia on the phone and it was it was good. I mean I think they were. Yeah, she she like we said before, she's she's actually starting to grow on me and not being quite as annoying as she first was. So yeah, she's an interesting character, so that I'm surprised that she's not talking like Yoda, I know, talking backwards.

1:58:09 So I just I just want to take this opportunity to say thank you so much to Paul for hanging out and Trek talking with us and that the enthusiasm that he brings to the Star Trek toy line. So thank you. Thank you so much to Paul, and thank you so much to Eric for hanging out and Trek talking with us tonight. Thank you so much, Eric, you. Bet, thank you all fun hanging out. And thank you to v as well for hanging out and Trek talking with us and doing some new stories and just having some fun. Thank you for always always a blast. And of course David, our miracle worker, the man himself, our version of mister Scott. Thank you so much David for coming on the podcast and all the work you do on it.

1:58:51 Yeah, it's been fun. I got one more clip at the very end if you guys wanted to play it after we say goodbye. Okay, well that'll be it. That'll be an off air special, and I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim saying, everybody please stay safe and be good to each other. I remember Star Trek fans are the best fans. Good Night, everybody, night. Good night y'all, all stations. I'm ready for departure, sir. Some problem, right, I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way of mission stall. Build said, Oh no, not about it. I'm sure most will be much more interesting. Let's see what's out there.

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