April 11, 2025

Episode 631- Comic Corner - Lower Decks issue 2 and 3 review

Episode 631- Comic Corner - Lower Decks issue 2 and 3 review

In this episode of Trek Talk, the hosts engage in lively discussions about their personal experiences, current events, and the Star Trek universe. They introduce the podcast, share fan shoutouts from around the globe, and delve into thought-provoking poll questions that reflect on cultural values and character decisions within the Star Trek narrative. The conversation highlights the unique blend of humor, insight, and community that defines the Trek fandom. In this episode, the hosts discuss character predictions for a Star Trek series, delve into the details of Lower Decks comic issues 2 and 3, and celebrate the birthdays of notable Star Trek actors. The conversation highlights character arcs, comic storytelling, and the impact of nostalgia in the franchise. This conversation explores the contributions of iconic actors in the Star Trek universe, celebrates their birthdays, and discusses their impact on the franchise. It delves into character arcs from Deep Space Nine, highlights upcoming Star Trek series, and shares exciting news about events and tributes, particularly focusing on the legacy of Nichelle Nichols and her influence on future generations.

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Star Trek Lower DecksComic Corner

In this episode of Trek Talking, Uncle Jim and his cohosts engage in lively discussions about their personal experiences, current events, and the Star Trek universe. They introduce the podcast, share fan shoutouts from around the globe, and delve into thought-provoking poll questions that reflect on cultural values and character decisions within the Star Trek narrative. The conversation highlights the unique blend of humor, insight, and community that defines the Trek fandom. In this episode, the hosts discuss character predictions for a Star Trek series, delve into the details of Lower Decks comic issues 2 and 3, and celebrate the birthdays of notable Star Trek actors. The conversation highlights character arcs, comic storytelling, and the impact of nostalgia in the franchise. This conversation explores the contributions of iconic actors in the Star Trek universe, celebrates their birthdays, and discusses their impact on the franchise. It delves into character arcs from Deep Space Nine, highlights upcoming Star Trek series, and shares exciting news about events and tributes, particularly focusing on the legacy of Nichelle Nichols and her influence on future generations. Let's see what's out there...ENGAGE

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Jim Way sposper look is acting very weird. Captain Pyke

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siscous wife, King ons and me after like Boimer Tendi

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Starbaranso is very hard, Sports Drive black Alert, Georgio has

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gone perserved, Peach a bad laugh, Edward is any is Pakistan?

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Chickop's wearing red Teeter's.

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Cat, Kim packsack you has had enough for that.

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Pimy of make it.

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So everybody, let's.

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Go about the series.

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He's drawing us up the phone.

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Now talk about the series. I'm coming to your services.

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Now we talk about the series on the phone down.

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Well, good evening, Treki's and trekers around the globe. It

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It's Thursday, April tenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to episode

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six hundred and thirty one of Trek Talking. Can you

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guys believe it?

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So many episodes?

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Wow?

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Incredible. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. And before

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we get started, I want to go around the horn

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and introduce my awesome trek experts. We'll start off with Eric.

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Eric's out in Portland. How you doing tonight? Eric?

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Well, you know, Jim, the funny thing about me is

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that I'm great at surviving. I've been not dying my

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entire life and I haven't screwed it up yet.

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So that's a step in the right direction.

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Yeah.

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And also out in Portland we have Paul, our very

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own toy guy. How you doing tonight, Paul.

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Hello friends, I'm doing alright. It's been an interesting week.

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It's been a very very busy week and uh, and

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it's been curious curious weeks and curious curious there and

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curious or if it gets any more curious or I

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we'll just gonna say.

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My investment guy called it mister Toad's wild ride.

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Yeah, there's stuff going on in the geosphere, the political

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world and all that. That's nothing compared to what I've

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been going through. Man, it's just crazy, crazy times. But

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it's okay, It's it's all right. You know, I'm I

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think this week was brought to you by niche. If

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this week doesn't kill you, it'll make you stronger, right,

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I mean it's been that kind of uh this week

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it was brought to you by Sisyphus. It's like, you know,

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it's been so.

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What's next? Man?

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I'm pretty much just like every day I opened the

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windows and look out the front lighters. I don't know,

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have the gigantic, city sized flying saucers landed yet to

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enslave us and have a harvest goldfish or whatever our

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new jobs will be. I don't know, But nothing surprises

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me anymore. But as you can see, I'm prepared for

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just about any weird thing that may happen. So, you know,

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I think that may be the longest answer Gym's ever

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gotten in terms of how are you doing this week?

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That's a hell of an answer. Well, let's let's stick

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with the Portland theme and check in with our miracle workers. David.

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How you doing tonight? David?

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And I'm pretty hard speaking of surviving though, I think

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he pretty much died the red shirt yesterday or something.

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But you know, I'm gonna have to I'm not have

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to start bringing my glomer to this podcast.

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We're talking.

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I'll have him right here on my shoulder.

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He might get kind of angry though, looking at that trouble,

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he might just be.

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Like and not. In Portland, we have our very own Charles,

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and we can see the palm trees waving in the

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back grown. How are you doing? Tonight, Charles, I'm sorry.

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It's been a long busy month this past.

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Week, like several weeks since Monday, and then to turn

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around it's like, yeah, here come the heat wave. By

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the way, I want to share ninety three degree to

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anybody who wants it.

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Yes, Gross, we have snow up here for months, so it's.

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We'll send me heat your way, Jim, because we're done.

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We don't want it. We want to go back to

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the sev eighties until.

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May, I'll send I'll send some snow your way. How's

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that it'll melt before it gets here, probably to come

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down and rain. So, as I said at the top

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do that, next week, we're going to be talking about

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the new Zone Studios Star Trek fan film called Star Child.

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We're gonna watch it here all together and then we're

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gonna talk about it. So if you're a fan of

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fan films, if you definitely want to join us next week,

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all right, on tonight's show, we're gonna be doing Comic Corner.

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We're gonna do lower decks episode or not episodes, not episodes.

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Issue the show is over? Yes, there we go Issue

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two and issue three. We did issue one on the

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last comic corner. We're just trying to get caught up.

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We're also going to do our fans shout outs and

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that's where we thank our fans are on the globe

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just like you for being fans of our podcast. We

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also have our Star Trek polls. You know what is

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klingon honor? You know? And we'll go and claim another

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victim on Strange New World season three. I wonder. We

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also have our Star Trek birthdays. What Star Trek actor

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do you share a birthday with? Well, listen to our

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Star Trek birthdays, and you can find out and Star

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Trek news what's going around around the Star Trek universe.

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We have a Starfleet Academy update, Michelle Hurd gets honored,

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and Star Trek Red Alert will be at Universal. We're

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going to talk about all that and so much more.

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If you'd like to be mentioned in a future fan

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shout out, head over to our Facebook page and you'll

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see the big Live, Long and prosper pin to the

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top of the page and just click on that and

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tell us where you're listening from. We leave a lot

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of emojis. They get my attention. And if you see

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a heart next to your name from yours truly, Uncle Jim,

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that means you're going to be featured in a futures

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fan shout out and you want to tune into the

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podcast and hear your name, Eric. Would you like to

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get us started with our fan shout outs?

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Would I ever?

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Jim?

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We are heading down Ondo to start with, and we're

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saying hello and thank you for listening to Shelley Bell,

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who's saying hello to us from Tugulawa in Queensland, a

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place that I would love to go. There's so many

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things in Queensland. I would love to see. Tugulau was

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not on my radar until just now, So thanks Shelley

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for saying hello from a place I've never heard of before.

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I can't wait to look it up on the map

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and find out what's going on there. But we really

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do appreciate your support of our podcast, and I hope

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you're listening right now. Tom Ross, we would like to

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say hello to you. You are saying hello to us

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from ham in North Rhine Westphalia and Germany. That's right, Tom.

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I also hope to make it to Germany, hopefully sooner

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rather than later, maybe even later this year. We're kind

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of looking at options for vacations right now. And Tom Ross,

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I'm sure you enjoy your time in the North Rhine

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Westphilia area of Germany. Thank you so much for listening

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to the podcast. Alexandro Picterrello, I'm saying hello to you,

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and you are saying hello to us from Campignas city,

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state of sal Paalo, and you sent us not only

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a livelong and prosper emoji, but also a little piece

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of and a little rock and roll. Heck yeah, man,

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Thank you for listening to our podcast. Alexandro, we really

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appreciate you and I'm hoping in that you are listening

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to some awesome sons of Kirk or klingon metal right now.

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No wait, listening to our podcast right now? I mean

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before or after the podcast. That's what I meant. Thanks

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for listening one way or another. When last, but not least,

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I'm saying hello this week to Damon Holmes, who is

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just across the pond in Hole Beach, Lincolnshire in the UK.

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We have tons of support for this podcast in the UK,

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and I've not been to Hole Beach, but I certainly

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like so many things about the United Kingdom. Damon, thank

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you so much for listening to our podcast and apply

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to you, sir, Charles, who would you like to say

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hello to?

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All Right?

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Nice pictures you guys are missing, including some nice looking

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gents and one cling on a start off with greetings

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to Scott Montgomery, Panama City, Florida Beach, Florida Future Homa

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Charles Trip Tucker.

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The third Welcome to the Top fan Lee Copeland from

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Portland's Virginia Top Fan two Top Fans. Jerry Rowe is

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also a top fan from Indiana. Great to see our

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top fans popping in and welcome to Laura Whaling Williams

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from Florida, which part of Florida? Laura, David, who's on

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your list?

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Ah, thank you child. I would like to say hello

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and thank you for listening to Chris Herron from Athens, Tennessee.

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Another thank you for listening goes out to Shandor Boda

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from Florida. I guess they are also not saying exactly

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where in Florida, but that's fine. I would like to

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give a really good one. Welcome to Roger Clark from

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here in my area, Oregon. I'm not sure where an Oregon,

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hopefully Portland, but if not, that cool. Last time my

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list is Maureen Bilkki from Holland, Michigan, USA. Paul who

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is on your list?

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Thank you, David. I appreciate that. Well. First of all,

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we're going to jump multiple longitudes and latitudes to some

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of our international fans here, and I like, first of all,

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oh to a place I so fondly wish to go.

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Is the beautiful country of Italy. A flag flying proudly

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from our friend Alice Confelonieri. I don't know where Alice

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is at. Is she Piedmont is she Tuscany, We don't know,

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but she's somewhere in Italy. Maybe she just considers the

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entire country her home, as some folks do who drink

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deep of Italy's pleasures. So Alice, great to hear from you,

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Thanks for being a fan. And then a very wonderful

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and historic part of the world. We have our friend

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Dave Mallin checking in with us from Puttily in North Wales.

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Amazing country with a great, rich history and great language

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as well, very fascinating place to live. A very happy

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looking attention getting emoji that Dave is sharing with us.

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So great to hear from you in Puttally there, Dave,

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thanks for being a fan and sharing your enthusiasm for

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friends Zuzanna haskez Kolva. So great to hear from you, Susana,

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and I just love knowing that there's folks watching Star

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Trek and all kinds of different languages all over the

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world right and united by the enthusiasm of a hopeful

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vision of the future and exciting, adventurous storytelling. And this

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is a great message here from fan Farshid our dobb

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living in Sweden since nineteen eighty eight. That's a big change,

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far Sheet, real challenge of acclamation to the weather there,

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but has lived there since nineteen eighty eight. He has

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watched Star Trek the original series since childhood and has

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and always will love Star Trek once a trekye, a

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lifelog trekie with a photon torpedo spread of Vulcan salutes

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and hearts so great you'll give you exactly. I mean,

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we're overwhelmed with Marshid's enthusiasm. Is nothing better than a

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really enthusiastic Star Trek fan who's just you know, drank

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deep in childhood and never stopped. I'm right there with you,

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far Sheet, So we are united brother in terms of that.

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So I just love knowing that there's just that appeal

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across cultures that Star Trek has is a wonderful thing.

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planet who like a lot of the same things that

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we do. That's in times like this, it's really encouraging

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unite us and there's yet more fandom to be celebrated,

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and that celebration is going to come from Uncle Jim.

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Yeah, well, I thank you, Paul. And you're never going

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to guess what caught my attention and that last fan

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shout out? Could it be all those awesome emojis?

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That could be impossible.

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It's very very possible that it could have been all

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those Look at those good looking dudes there, Eric, that.

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One in the red outfit is is that Riker exy guy.

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He's one of the evil Admirals, isn't he.

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Look now, he's gonna have to breathe eventually.

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Right, he's touching my bat with. Everybody wants to touch

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my bat with. Yeah. So, guys, we're talking about all

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these awesome fan photos that you're not seeing right now.

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want to be featured, just send it to us on

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our on trek talking dot com and we will get

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it up here on our feed so that everybody that's

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watching the show we'll see your fan pictures. So please

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please do that. Leah, stop it, stop it, Leyah. Leah

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wants to play with me right now, and she's whacking

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the cat. Go find Anakin, Go go find all right, guys.

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say thank you to Bruce Bolan, who's listening to us

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in Boston, Massachusetts right now. Thank you, Bruce. We also

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hello and thank you to Roy Scott Becker who's listening

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to us in Durham, North Carolina. And that, my friends,

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wraps up our fan shout outs. Please head on over

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to trek Talking dot com and there you can find

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wraps up that and now it's time for Star Trek open.

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You know me like no Wind, what you thought about

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the show? Then we try to share your opinions with

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All Terre Canara and Romulna.

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All right, guys, if you head over to our Facebook

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page every week, I throw out all kinds of fascinating, stimulating, enticing,

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titulating fan questions. Sometimes I might ask one like you

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know which which beard of rikers did you like the best?

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That's a great question. Actually we haven't asked that yet.

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We should ask that question, you know.

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Just some some fun one and sometimes.

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I mean there's only one right answer.

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last week with Captain Picard wiping out the boorg. So

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you never know what you're gonna find. So you want

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to head over there and answer our poll questions. So

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David roll it.

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Okay, let's clip it.

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Here's our first.

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Dream him.

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Some of tas.

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Is son convicted of three But your host family will

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one day rule the empire.

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But U.

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But not to days.

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I love the face, I love the eyes.

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This child's family wrongly took your name and your honor

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from him. In return, I give his life.

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Yeah, all right, So Paul, I think people are not

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pauw Eric. I think people already know what our pole

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question is. But what is our pole question? And how

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did vote?

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Man?

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I love adding the clip to these pole questions. That's

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so cool. It refreshes everybody's memory. In the TNG episode Redemption,

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Gowran gives Warf, son of Mogue, the life of tal,

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son of Duras. Wharf spares it. Do you agree with

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his decision? And I feel like this is a sort

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of uniquely cultural centric question because we're asking a bunch

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of humans this question, right, And so ninety one percent

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of the humans who were responded to this poll said, yes,

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of course we agree with Wharf's decision, because you know,

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killing a child is probably not the best look. Nine

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percent of our responders I assumed that those were the

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three Klingons who answered this pole said that they did

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not agree with Wharf's decision. So, you know, from my

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perspective being a human, it's kind of hard to like

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fathom how killing not really a teenager a teenager will

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restore my family's honor, and Wharf gets a lot of

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crap for this decision too, But in the end, I

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think he feels okay with it, right, He feels like

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he made the right decision. And so I'm kind of

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with Wharf man. I feel like, from my perspective, I

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agree with Whorf's decision. Had I grown up on Chronos,

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I might feel differently. I would like to recognize that though.

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All right, how about you, Paul, if you were Warf,

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would you have killed the little bastard?

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Well, here's the deal, right, and when when when Torrell

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first walks in there, he looks like cousin Oliver from

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the Brady Bunch, right, he is, so one day we

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rule empire. You know it's like, well maybe after puberty

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hits Torrel, you will, but it's you know, it's just so.

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cultural lens, right, And here's the thing. Wharfs there, right,

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and then you know, David plays a clip right, and

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then one early on like we said, you're alive, you

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he belongs to you, right, and then like a minute later, right,

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there's this cutting. The cards are all serious, right, and

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you know Wharf's like, oh ship the card's watching me.

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I can't go there. You just here, Otherwise I would

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slip his coastards throat. But no, but John, you know

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the cards there, I got it. A high minded thing, fine, right,

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and so you know Western values, human human values, Yeah,

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you got you know. I can see where the uh uh,

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where the minions are, right, I get it, right, I

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do think though culturally, you know, I would like to

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offer a third alternative. Though to me, often in making

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a plot, the third unexpected door is the better one, right,

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do something the toral that is worse than death. I would,

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you know, I'm I would. I would throw him in

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a in uh. I would. I would do a two

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part thing. I would throw him in a you know,

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like a big arena of targs enough to know that

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he would be scarred from his experience, right, he would

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be scarred, and then he would be banished. Right, he

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would be banished for the rest of his life, to

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have to walk elsewhere, be a klingon not welcome on Kronos. Uh,

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to basically be like a Ronan in exile, you know,

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who was you know, you know, a breaker of the vows,

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breaker of the faith, an apostate from the kling On empire, right,

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and just a fate worse than death for you know,

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because it's like you know, Dura, they didn't kill Wharf,

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they just besmirched the memory of his father, right, So

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let the punishment fit the crime would be what I

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would say, right, do something to just ruin to Rale's right, right,

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so that ideally he walks the earth for like thirty

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years and then comes back in like a sequel movie

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to wreak havoc and get revenge. Right, So you want

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to think ahead like that, then it's a little bit

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better satisfying for everybody, you know, watching then and then

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watching in the future things. So you're setting up your

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sequel and you're good to go. I'll take my royalty

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check now, Fellas, that'd be great, all right?

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Well for me, I've always felt that warf On star

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Trek was a lens for our humanity. They used Wharf

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as a way to show what humans would do, which

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is unfortunate because Wharf is a Klingon. So you got

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a conflict right there. In this particular case, I think

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that Wharf probably should have killed her off. That's what

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a Klingon would have done, that's their cultural thing. He

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should have killed a little bastard. However, Picard was there.

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It's not the Federation way. He was raised with humans,

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so he's not gonna kill him. So there's there's the

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clash of the cultures. In this particular pole question, and

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in this particular Pole cash, the Federation wins out and

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he spares him, and was that the right choice to do? Well?

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Son of a Duras does come back on Deep Space

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nine and the Sword of Kles and is a royal

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pain in the ass later. So had he killed him, now,

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maybe that wouldn't happen, But at any rate, you know,

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I think that he I think that for the character

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of Warf he made the right choice. For a Klingon,

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he didn't. So I'm going to answer both questions at

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the same time.

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Yeah, I mean that was the whole point of Wharf, right,

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was that he had his like genetic kind of makeup,

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but then he had the people that he was raised with.

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And so he's a great allegory for anybody who's adopted

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or mixed race or like has you know, alternate gender

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identities or anything like. You could put all of this

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into Wharf if you wanted to, and say that Wharf

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was trying to keep one foot in each camp the

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whole time. And in this case, I do think the

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presence of JLP makes a big difference.

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Well, And and what what happens next in that clip?

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By the way, do you guys like the clips? David?

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David messaged me, he said, how about we do a clip.

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The way to do it? Do you guys ask the idea.

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Doesn't remind you of the yes. So what happens next

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is his Worf's brother Kern, who's one purebred Klingon. He

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comes down, picks up the doc tot and he's going

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to kill He's gonna kill Torrel, and Warf stops him.

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This is no. You gave his life to me and

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I have chosen to spare it. So, you know, the

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Klingons wanted blood, you know, and Wharf didn't give to him.

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So and so takes the brunt of that like cultural hit, right.

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But because he's Wharf, and because he's so strong and

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rooted in his own convictions, he's able to take the

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heat and still keep going. That's what I don't. I mean,

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that's one of the great things about Worst's character.

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In a lot of ways, I think Wharf is really

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more of a Klingon than a lot of the Klingons

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that we run into. I think Wharf is like the

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textbook version of a Klingon because he was raised amongst humans,

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whereas a lot of the Klingons that we bump into

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are just you know, crooked, backstabbing alcoholics, and they're you know,

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without honor.

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Or just emotionally unhinged.

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is the ultimate kling Op.

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He's learned some regulation. Right. The thing is, that's the

461
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problem with most of the other Klanons, Right, It's just

462
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.079
they're they're they're kind of childlike in their extremes, right.

463
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:19.680
They have no governance in terms of how they are

464
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.599
able to. Maybe Gran does a little bit because he's

465
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.480
more of a game player, right, he's more of a

466
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.759
tactical person, right, you know, sinking big picture. But but

467
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.559
most of them just I have an impulse. I will

468
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:33.000
go do it. I do not like you. I will

469
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.839
punch you. I will you know you have a gallon

470
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:39.200
of ale, I will drink it. Right, you know, but

471
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.759
you know, they just have no there's no regulation, right,

472
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:43.720
They just you.

473
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:48.519
Know, except for maybe Martak. Martalk seems to be pretty

474
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.119
well centered. But all right, Charles, well, what do you

475
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:53.920
think would you have killed him or would you have

476
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:54.839
spared him?

477
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.960
Well, I think it would have been great to get

478
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:00.960
a lower decks tie in there and make him a

479
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.279
far hand, make him a farm handed, a tard farm

480
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:08.400
where they're producing the blood wine.

481
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:10.960
Yeah, I know one.

482
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.599
Farm who kind of gave up, gave up his cling

483
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:21.319
on anger for the peace. I agree with the Minions

484
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:25.440
on it, as you guys made a good point for

485
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.559
phrase with as we not use the term humans as

486
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.519
much as Terrans. He grew up with a Terran family.

487
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:40.359
He got their ideals. We don't kill everybody, and sometimes

488
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:45.160
we need to spare a life and deal with the

489
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:50.319
repercussions later. I agree with the minions saying I think

490
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.960
there was the right thing, especially with also with Pricard there, Yes,

491
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.559
but I think it's a point too that I think

492
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:02.920
Key figures. Also, the blood's not worth it. The blood

493
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:06.240
in his hand would not be worth what was already

494
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:10.839
done to his family. There are other ways a deal,

495
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.000
There's other ways of dealing with the Dross family.

496
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:22.559
Dirast. Yes, let's not forget the sisters. You get to

497
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:24.400
bring up the caboose on his one, David, are you

498
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.039
with dominions or against dominions?

499
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:33.559
Well, apparently worth with an influencer, So technically, uh yeah,

500
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.160
I actually agree with the minions. I do agree with

501
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.640
Paul's statement too as well, that you know, maybe just

502
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.079
send him off to something far worse than desk, like

503
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:46.319
I don't know, the imulant orphanage or something. But yeah,

504
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:51.000
uh so, yeah, I would have to say I think

505
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.279
he did the right thing. But at the same time,

506
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.000
it has to be a cultural thing, like you guys

507
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:58.480
have always been talking about Cleon and their culture or

508
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:04.200
honor and killing and everything. So if John Luke wasn't there,

509
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.200
probably he might have done it. But at the same time,

510
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.680
he probably wouldn't have done it if he was wasn't there.

511
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.119
So but I do agree with him because I'm human,

512
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:14.759
I'm not clean.

513
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.079
I mean, that's the interesting Like we can almost do

514
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:21.240
an entire show about wharf because Warf shows many examples

515
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.559
of being influenced by who's in the room throughout the series,

516
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.960
I think, and because he's kind of always torn. He's

517
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.160
the kind of guy who's looking outside of himself for influence,

518
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.599
and you know, most of the time he's on the enterprise,

519
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:39.720
so he's getting that influence from JLP or from you know,

520
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:43.319
from the counsel or from a riker. Like yeah, I mean,

521
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.640
he's he's got a lot of outside so he's the

522
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:47.960
he's like an amalgamator. He can he brings in a

523
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.240
bunch of information and then he's like, Nope, this is

524
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.599
a decision I'm gonna make. But you could almost argue

525
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:55.920
with him and force him to make a different decision.

526
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.400
It's interesting that you brought that up, actually, because I

527
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.400
was just thinking, they've done it half Vulcan. They've done

528
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.799
a half cleanon they've done almost every race half. But

529
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.200
this is more than a half of culture. Like he's

530
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.559
half Cleanon culture and half Federation culture. So I mean,

531
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.079
he's just like he's struggling with those two.

532
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.400
Look at if you guys, look at if you guys

533
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.640
are looking good. Good.

534
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.920
Look at the video where he had the back injury

535
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:25.279
and he was sitting there and wanting to kill himself

536
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.799
and then got convinced to.

537
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:30.400
Not give up.

538
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.240
Hmm. Well, you know if You guys are are having

539
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.880
fun with this question. Next week's pole question is just

540
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:43.960
the opposite, So you'll have to tune in next week

541
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:48.119
to find out about that one. All right, David, why

542
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.039
don't you roll the next one for our for everybody,

543
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.559
Eric's clipping.

544
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.079
Captain Bettilla's in need of immediate sedation.

545
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.200
Yah, welcome you to.

546
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.960
Stay this feel sick. There's one I would stop it.

547
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:11.640
I need to take you. I'm not giving up on

548
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:14.279
I have no intention of doing that.

549
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:19.519
You've trure to have been deemed up by the going

550
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.160
all right, so, uh, you've seen the clips, so I

551
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.079
guess you know what The question is just a little

552
00:33:56.119 --> 00:34:00.400
reminder because we're anxiously awaiting Strange New world See three,

553
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.000
which is going to pick up right here. So Eric,

554
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.559
what is the poll question? And what did our minions

555
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:06.319
have to say.

556
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.480
On the second season finale of Strange New Worlds? Captain

557
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.599
Bettel was infected with gorn eggs? You do you think

558
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:21.239
she will survive? And you guys, this is split straight

559
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:26.079
down the middle. Fifty percent of our responders said yes,

560
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:31.239
she will survive and fifty percent of our responders said nope,

561
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:37.280
she'd done for that's a good pole question. Yeah, there's

562
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.039
not enough evidence to like really know either way. So uh,

563
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.719
I like to think that they would save her. But also,

564
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.519
we live in twenty first century television land and Game

565
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.199
of Thrones and whatnot, and so if they killed her off,

566
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:57.519
I wouldn't be surprised, not one bit.

567
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.079
How about you, what do you think? Is she going

568
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.320
to survive or is she going to bite the dust?

569
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:09.440
Well, it's hard to say, it really is. It's it's

570
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:10.000
a tough one.

571
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.159
I mean, it's certainly not a question about Betel. It's

572
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:14.280
really a question about Pike.

573
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.679
Right, Well, she doesn't have plot armor like all the

574
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:18.599
other characters do.

575
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.360
I don't know that it's a plot armor thing. Well,

576
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.159
I know what you're saying, but it's just because it's

577
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.639
kind of a different universe th things happen a little differently.

578
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.480
So I mean that's you know, and everyone can always

579
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:35.480
somehow come back from from something. I'm just killing time

580
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.679
while I check out her IMDb profile to see how

581
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.400
much work she's got lined up as a clue to

582
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:45.400
see if she's Yeah, I see that's just passed in

583
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.760
the lead of an upcoming HBO show. Now I'm just

584
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:54.079
making it. But she gets a lot of work Melanie does,

585
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.440
and Melan we're talking about the actress Melanie Graffano. Please

586
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.559
don't mispronounce the Italian names, thank you, just like to

587
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:07.559
make sure that we cover that. But yeah, tough. I

588
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:11.920
think that probably my guess is that she I mean,

589
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:13.840
just in terms of it, it looks pretty serious, right,

590
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:21.039
and uh it's great that uh uh Chapel's in there

591
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.079
trying to do her thing right, doing everything she can.

592
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.000
But you know they because who is with her right

593
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.840
now that's captured, right, it's Ma Benga and who else?

594
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:31.199
George Kirk?

595
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.119
Yeah right, So I mean we know Mabega's going to

596
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.079
be fine. We know George Kirk's going to be fine. Right,

597
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.039
there's something that but you can't have all of them

598
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:41.599
be fine, right, that's just kind of annoying, Like all

599
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.440
the people her hostages are all fine. Right, It's just like, no,

600
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.400
somebody's going to draw the short straw otherwise it doesn't

601
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:48.840
this no.

602
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.719
Half, I mean, it's rights.

603
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.280
I just don't I don't see that they that they

604
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.440
pull that off or you know, more likely what I

605
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.440
would see them do is probably like it sort of

606
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:03.159
seems like maybe she's okay and You're like, Oh, she's

607
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.559
gonna be all right, good deal, Right, But then she's

608
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:08.320
in a situation where the only way to save the

609
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.840
enterprise is to like, you know, blow up the ship.

610
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.960
He's on, right, and she dies heroically and tragically. You know, well,

611
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.199
I love that. That's more like the kind of thing

612
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:21.360
that we typically see, right is and so he Pike

613
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.559
is kind of you know, he that's on in keeping

614
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:27.639
with his character, right, love of his life, and we've

615
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.159
seen over several seasons dies tragically.

616
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:32.760
I question, it's not right?

617
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.440
Yeah, yeah, so that's if I had to put money

618
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.199
on it, That's what I'm guessing, right, it'll be something

619
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:38.800
like that. I don't see her coming out of this though,

620
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:41.840
So I'm I'm on the sadly because she's done a

621
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.480
great job and it really is really but how also, guys,

622
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.079
three seasons in, right, how long can you sustain the

623
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:53.159
captain of a starship having a steady girlfriend the whole time?

624
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:53.599
Right?

625
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:59.159
At some point I just don't, Yeah, why load it?

626
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:03.039
But you know, eventually, eventually, you know, you gotta you know,

627
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.320
somebody's got to pay. And it's not gonna be one

628
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.360
of her record characters, you know, I kind of wish

629
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.159
it was Pellia. Did I say that out loud?

630
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.280
God? All right?

631
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.119
But uh, you know, critique of the writing, not the actor.

632
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.480
So but yeah, I don't think she's coming out of

633
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.679
this one pros. I don't. We'll see. I'm excited to

634
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.519
find out, though, I mean, you know, I mean it's

635
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:27.440
a you know, I dig closing the season on a cliffhanger,

636
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.960
always like that. It's a fun move. So we'll see

637
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:31.840
a couple of months.

638
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.159
Well, for me, I hope she bites the dust because

639
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.199
if she doesn't, then that means they killed off hem

640
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:41.800
Or for nothing, and that one really ticked me off

641
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.039
if they pulled out some miracle cure to save her.

642
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.519
But they let Himmer die because Hemmer was my favorite character,

643
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.199
and they often with the gore and eggs. So she's

644
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:54.800
got to bite the dust. She has to plain and simple.

645
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.360
So I like seeing her. And not only that, she

646
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.360
lost her ship, She lost her crew. Captain should be

647
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:05.840
going down with the ship, and then the ship went down,

648
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:12.079
So you know, I think she's toast. How about you, Charles, Well.

649
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.039
Jim took a little bit in my Thunder when I'm

650
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.920
gonna say it's like, oh, but with Star Trek lose

651
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:18.440
any of their major characters.

652
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:20.440
Oh, that's right.

653
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:27.079
They killed off Hammer. So it's hard to say I'd

654
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:28.400
be on the fence for that one.

655
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:29.280
But I'm.

656
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.920
Would not be surprised if she doesn't make it. Now,

657
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:40.440
maybe she does do a sacrifice, Maybe she's contaminated, but

658
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.639
she sacrificed herself to help the ship get away or

659
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.920
get somebody saved. Yeah, that might be a good good

660
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:53.480
help the ship. But yeah, I'm not positive she's gonna

661
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:53.760
make it.

662
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:58.360
All right, David, you get the caboose on this one

663
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.320
yet again? Should she day or should she go? Now?

664
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.119
Well, I think we should open up a bedding pool.

665
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.599
So you're going to say the Paul answer of the

666
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.280
third option, like she dies but then comes back, but

667
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.599
it dies again but is defied.

668
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.880
Actually, the Gorn make her into a queen, right, That's

669
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.960
what I'm saying, Queen of the Gorn. Right, and she

670
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:25.159
becomes she becomes Pike's nemesis for like the rest of

671
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:25.679
the season.

672
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:28.320
Right, you know, she hangs out with torol Man.

673
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.079
That's got some that's got some juice.

674
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:31.519
Okay, Well, I.

675
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.480
Actually think she will bite the dush and I think

676
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.079
this is going to be the beginning of why they

677
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:40.199
call the Red Shirt the Bad Luck Crew. So what's

678
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.840
the how many Red Shirts die in this episode? But yeah,

679
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:45.000
I think she's going to bite the dush.

680
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.880
Well, there you have it, guys, and that wraps up

681
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.880
our Star Trek polls. I like the videos. I think

682
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.440
we'll stick with that. I think David came up with

683
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:55.840
a good idea. He's the Miracle Worker, and I like

684
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.639
that because it refreshes everybody to what we're talking about.

685
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.599
So we're all in the same page, all right. Well,

686
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:04.760
that brings us to the meat and potatoes of tonight's podcast.

687
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.320
It is Comic Corner, and we are going to be

688
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.639
talking about Lower Decks. We're going to be talking right

689
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:14.320
now about issue number two, and as usual, we're going

690
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:16.360
to have Paul give us the recap.

691
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:25.400
Make sure I'm off mute. Thanks, Okay, Lower Decks Issue too.

692
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.559
From our good pals at IDW continuing to rock hard

693
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.760
on Star Trek. So this is kind of a chapter

694
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.480
two from last week. We kind of come back in there. Basically,

695
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.920
we had all the situation we're in before and this

696
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:44.360
one is this is that issue three that we're looking

697
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:44.960
at images for.

698
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:48.480
Though no that's issue. No, no, no, that's first first page.

699
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:52.880
It is okay, oh that's right. Sorry, my bad. A

700
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.639
lot of repetition on this comics. So we start off

701
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:58.880
marinerd to Lynn, Rutherford, Tendy and Boieler. Okay, off the

702
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:04.360
Bonaventure on to a strange planet, right, and that strange planet. Uh,

703
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.559
fans of the original series will soon recognized it is

704
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:11.920
Scotti be a click click right, which is a classic

705
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:16.840
episode the Savage Curtain right on there, and uh it's

706
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.679
the crazy uh just my body temperature displease you. You

707
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:24.039
know those crazy hot lava cats, right, the ones who

708
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.079
really walked right up to the freaking camp door where

709
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:29.920
it could have been just so awful but somehow made

710
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.599
it cool where they ended up having you know, Kirk

711
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.239
and Spock, you know, team up with Abraham Lincoln and

712
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.719
and you know, uh so rac right to fight the

713
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:44.519
legendary evil uh worst worst of the galaxy, right, especially

714
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.119
my favorite Colonel Green. You gotta love Colonel Green. It

715
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.000
was like, why have we never had a Colonel Green

716
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.679
time traveling movie? He was such a badass. Oh that's right,

717
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:58.000
because he's in Congress currently. Sorry, sort of seems like

718
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.119
he should be right with his whole And sorry I

719
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.599
have to say this because it's really I'm that guy.

720
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:07.280
I'm so annoying. I will do these digressions given any opportunity,

721
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.599
So just throw me out the airlock. But did you

722
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.199
know fans of the Savage Curtain of which we're kind

723
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:14.880
of talking, so I have an excuse, right, the uniform

724
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:19.159
that Colonel greenwars, that red uniform, it ended up becoming

725
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.280
Morc's spacesuit on it is the exact same. It is

726
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:28.599
precisely the same, pulled out of like paramount storage. Anyhow,

727
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.320
it's the same thing, right. The Excalbians want to staye

728
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.880
a spectacle to learn which of your values is this right?

729
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.559
So they match up Ruther for tend Ee tole in

730
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:43.800
all them with a bunch of legendary characters jed Zeia Dax,

731
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:49.400
Scottie Janeway, jlp as here is being referred to this week,

732
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:53.199
right and Paul right. And the idea is they want

733
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.599
to find out how mentoring works this time instead of

734
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:02.079
you know, which is better good versus evils? Right, except

735
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.519
that they wanted to be exciting like WWE wrestling, right,

736
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.079
So they wanted the mentors to convince the mentees to

737
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.760
kill everyone, right, because the Excalbians must have spectacles, right,

738
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.800
And so it goes on for a bit of each

739
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:22.039
of the mentors trying to convince the mentees to do that,

740
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.880
and the mentees resisting because they're enlightened, peaceful and natives

741
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:30.400
of the Critos, and eventually the you know, Boimler makes

742
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.559
an impassioned speech to try to like, you know, make

743
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:35.800
everyone realize that we don't need to kill everyone, because

744
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.320
I'm making a big, dramatic, impassioned speech like I've always

745
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:42.400
wanted to. And the Excalbians say, wow, you know, your

746
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:44.840
speeches are really boring, and that we find that the

747
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.519
violence of the mentors get better ratings, right, and so

748
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.480
they basically send them packing right to the Bonaventure. And

749
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.280
on the Bonaventure and the Critos and all of their crews,

750
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.840
everyone's okay, very long technical explanation about what happened, YadA, YadA, YadA,

751
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:05.159
and and everyone on Excalby is watching the mentors fight

752
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:12.239
violently scene. So that's what we have issue number two.

753
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.360
All right, So what did you think about about it's Paul?

754
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:18.880
What do you think about the art, the story?

755
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.480
The oh? I I mostly liked it it's it's hard

756
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.599
to critique the art just because it's basically, you know,

757
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.159
it is exactly precisely, you know, like the show is right.

758
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.719
So it's not like they're doing anything really differently. What's

759
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:33.239
different is the way they rendered the Excalbion, which is interesting.

760
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:35.239
They put more of a mouth on him than on

761
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.280
the original show to I think, give him more personality.

762
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:41.360
And I like the fact that it referenced, you know,

763
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.440
kind of a what just some folks would say is

764
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:49.000
a really daffy old episode, but I'm very it's one

765
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.280
of those older episodes I'm very fond of, right. I mean,

766
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:55.480
it's really it's really fun and interesting with those bad

767
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.119
guys you know, out on this planet. It's kind of like,

768
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.280
you know, a pulpier version of a right, And you

769
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.840
got to love the Excalbion. He's just really cool, nasty alien,

770
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:06.480
very fun.

771
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:07.519
So I like that.

772
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.639
I like that they chose to do that. It's kind

773
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.000
of strung into the middle of a longer, more complicated

774
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.840
plot that seems to involve a lot of confusion over

775
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.159
multiple the touch line through here. What we saw on

776
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:23.760
issue one as well is references to the career of

777
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.760
James T. Kirk right, so they seem to keep bumping

778
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:31.119
along in their adventures, sort of buffting around timelines. That's

779
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.079
a very weird rendering of Scotty in that image. By

780
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:39.639
the way, he looks very hot. James Kirk is going

781
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:42.039
to somehow play a part in this, but we don't

782
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.280
know to what degree yet because we've seen his log

783
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:47.239
recording from the animated series. In the previous comic right now,

784
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.440
we're seeing other things that Kirk was involved in and

785
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.800
his adventures with, like Excalbia and whatnot. So that's going

786
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:55.760
to be the woven in through all these issues, but

787
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.360
we don't really know how yet. So of these two

788
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.800
issues were doing tonight, this was the one I liked

789
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.159
the best. I enjoyed this. I thought it was fun.

790
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.480
The whole mentoring thing is a little you know, I

791
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.800
don't know if that's the you know, I don't know,

792
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.920
but overwhelming. I thought it was very good. So out

793
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.519
of a scale of one to ten, I would happily

794
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.239
get it an eight because I think it was generally

795
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:25.039
very successful and enjoyable. So for me, an eight powered

796
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:29.320
by all that good old school tos love, but eight.

797
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:33.400
From ball excellent. Well I'll jump in here and say

798
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.719
that for me, I found the I know last week

799
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.079
we talked a little bit about it, but I found

800
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.679
the what do you call it, the liner notes on

801
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:47.159
the bottom of the page, like more enjoyable than the

802
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:51.199
actual comic book itself. I love the liner notes that

803
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:53.639
they put on there, and the comments they were making

804
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.519
and how come everything always takes exactly the amount of

805
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.519
time as a commercial, I mean, stuff like that, and

806
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.480
I enjoyed that. I hope that the Lower Decks comic

807
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:10.760
books doesn't keep hanging on toos episodes like this. They

808
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.079
did tas last time. Now they're on another one. You know,

809
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.400
I want to see them do their own thing and

810
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:22.360
stop relying on on nostalgia, so you know. But having

811
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.840
said that, I did enjoy this one. I thought the

812
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.480
artwork is like Paul said, it's phenomenal. It looks like

813
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.280
you're watching a comic book of the show. I mean,

814
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.920
they copied the animation of Lower Decks to a t.

815
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.199
So if you're a fan of Lower Decks, I can't

816
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.679
see why you wouldn't love these comic books because it

817
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:46.320
does feel like you're reading an episode. The writing is perfect,

818
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:48.559
the characters are great, they look look at this. I mean,

819
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:50.679
look at it. They look just like they came off

820
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:55.039
the show outstanding, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought

821
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.039
they did a great job and I liked it. So,

822
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.119
you know, Paul, I'm going to go with just because

823
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:02.800
I know Paul loves it, I'm gonna go with an

824
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:06.280
eight point three. You know Paul loves the death meals,

825
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.360
so we're gonna we'll go with an eight point three.

826
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.079
So how about you, Charles?

827
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:19.119
Okay, exactly rete this picture right here or sums up.

828
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:20.599
But the first thing I was going to talk about.

829
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.480
I love how they debate, well, what Shack's gonna do?

830
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:27.119
Shack is the only one on board ship, what's he

831
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:32.000
gonna do? And it's interesting where they he actually was

832
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:34.719
going to do what they thought thought he was going

833
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:40.880
to do, which I think well defines Ransom. Okay, Ransom,

834
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.480
So how Ransom would act? How would Ransom do what

835
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:48.840
he does? And that they actually predicted him very well,

836
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:56.719
which I did like. I also liked the picture towards

837
00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:04.639
the end where Mariner is sitting there saying, well, oh

838
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:09.679
I've done done something life changing, and it really was

839
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:14.840
interesting to what happened, and the doctor's there.

840
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:15.079
Like what.

841
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.639
Go put in the log. Quit talking, go put in

842
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:25.760
the log, which sounds exactly like how the doctor would act.

843
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.840
And I really do like what they did with the last.

844
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:40.320
Page where I don't tease anybody, but somebody, somebody in

845
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:46.760
that group finds out about the event that's being broadcast and.

846
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:52.159
Spoiler alert, yeah, spoiler learning the screen.

847
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.679
But yeah, somebody finds out about it.

848
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.880
Somebody finds out about it. It's like, yeah, don't bother me.

849
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.480
I want to go watch I'm liking this, let me

850
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:04.079
go watch it. It's like, okay, yeah.

851
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.320
I also want to say I think it's interesting that

852
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.719
the week we chose to do this, one of the

853
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:18.639
actors has a remembrance birthday today This week I thought

854
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.159
was perfect. Eric Will mentioned that later, but I thought

855
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.960
it was perfect that we did this episode this week

856
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:29.679
and what birthday shows up? Oh what would I give

857
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:35.880
this one? I'll go with an eight point eight.

858
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:38.920
I do like what they're doing.

859
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:41.639
I like what they're doing with this series.

860
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:48.760
Paul loves those decimals. They make him so happy. All right, David,

861
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.039
you want to jump in here next?

862
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.760
So yeah, I.

863
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.119
Remember reading this a couple of nights ago, and I

864
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.760
completely forgot about it, but now looking at these videos

865
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.039
actually do help. I'm starting to remember a lot more

866
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:09.320
that came through. And yeah, I really like how they

867
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:15.320
copied and paste a lot of what the actors or

868
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:18.719
the characters would have done in the show versus the

869
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.719
comic book. And I agree with the all that they

870
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:27.159
did a phenomenal job of keeping with their characters and so,

871
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.800
and like half few of you mentioned already, this would

872
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.639
probably the better one out of the other one that

873
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:38.480
we're going to talk about. We'll probably show you what

874
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.599
we mean in the next segment, but other than that, Yeah,

875
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:48.400
that's a particular one I enjoyed mainly because I thought

876
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:52.559
it was interesting that they brought together the different characters

877
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:55.559
from the other series. And I thought it at first,

878
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:57.280
I thought it was like a time travel because when

879
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.119
I was putting the slide together, I didn't actually read

880
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.800
it before I posted it. But the third one I

881
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:03.440
read it and then I posted the third, so that

882
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:08.639
one's more of a chronological order. But this one in particular,

883
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:12.840
I wasn't really picking and choosing which slide to put through.

884
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:17.400
But yeah, I actually thought of the time travel. But

885
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:20.159
then the rock came alive and I was like okay,

886
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:24.199
and I had to get help, and I believe it

887
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:25.880
was Jim who told me that it was from a

888
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.199
Teo West episode of the e Xalaban or something like that,

889
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:33.159
and I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that now.

890
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:35.559
So there was just a few bits in here that

891
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:39.039
got me confused with the particular comic books. But I'm

892
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:41.559
not much of a comic book rooder myself, but I'm

893
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:43.719
getting into it now since we're doing the comic corners.

894
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.039
But other than that, yeah, I like it, and I'm

895
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.400
gonna have to go a little bit lower. It was

896
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.400
the score here, but I would do a decimal that's

897
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.159
for everybody else's shake. I'm gonna go with a seven

898
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:55.639
point nine.

899
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.280
All right, We got three decimals and you know what

900
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.760
that means. Eric brings up the kaboos.

901
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:03.239
Yeah.

902
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:09.119
I think on these lower decks comics, my personal rating

903
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:13.000
on them is not measured on the sort of meaningfulness

904
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:16.000
of the story, which is unlike you know, Star Trek

905
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:20.199
Defiant or the main Star Trek title that's ongoing from IDW.

906
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:23.559
But this one I tend to measure on how many

907
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:27.320
times I laugh out loud when I'm reading it, and

908
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:30.360
it's no secret. I've said it many times that I

909
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.559
think Ryan North is a fantastic writer and he makes

910
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:35.760
me giggle just about every single time I read him,

911
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:39.119
whether it's Squirrel Girl or Fantastic Four, like any of

912
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.679
the other things that he's contributed to in the past.

913
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:47.480
And so I really dug this comic, man. I think

914
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:52.280
the footnotes were hilarious. There's the one that I just

915
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:53.840
want to read out loud, and I know this is

916
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:55.519
a little bit of a spoiler, but it just was

917
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.280
so fucking funny to me. It says, if you're opening

918
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.440
note star it really should invest less in revamping uniforms

919
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.599
and computer systems every few years and more in monitoring

920
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:10.880
legacy technology in case that's the exact circumstance that happens again.

921
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:13.960
But let's recriminate each other later. We're just happy to

922
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:18.159
be here. What Lower Decks does in the animated show

923
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.400
is it takes all of these like Star Trek tropes

924
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.679
and it makes fun of them, and the comic is

925
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.679
doing exactly the same thing. It's just like making fun

926
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.599
of all the things along the way. And you know

927
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:33.679
the fact that we've got Bonaventurians here who are in

928
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:37.800
different uniforms. That makes that footnote I think, hit even

929
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.679
a little bit harder. It also references back to the

930
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:45.119
animated show itself. There's that whole comment about, well, you know,

931
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.559
we've sort of learned how to separate two beings from

932
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:52.159
one another, you know, a La Tuvis, despite the fact

933
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.960
that that Mariner says something to Jane Wayne this one

934
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:59.239
about yeah, that's the guy you straight up murdered. So

935
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:03.800
I don't know. This issue made me laugh a ton

936
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.079
as I was reading it. I do think the art's good.

937
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.719
It's a little flat to me, Like I tend to

938
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.599
like Jack Lawrence's, which is the next issue we're going

939
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:15.159
to talk about art, just a little bit better. It

940
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:18.719
has heavier ink lines around some of the art, which

941
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:22.760
to me like just brings a little bit more depth,

942
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:27.079
not like, you know, story depth, but just like artistic

943
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.119
depth to the characters. I'm not saying Derek Charms not

944
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:33.920
totally nailing it too, because his visages are very accurate

945
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:36.400
and that sort of stuff. But I just like Jack

946
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:40.360
Lawrence's style a little bit better myself, probably because he's

947
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.480
you know, a long lost cousin of mine. I think

948
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.840
I do like the introduction of bringing all these old

949
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:50.719
mentors into this and making them kind of go crazy.

950
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:50.920
You know.

951
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:54.440
I think Mariner mentioned something about it being like a

952
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:56.440
Holo Deck, you know, she's like, why can't you just

953
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.119
make this more than just a bad Holodeck episode or something.

954
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:06.199
But oh, and also I loved Boiler's kind of like,

955
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.360
you know speech that he gave. There's that one image

956
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:12.320
somewhere in here where he's like he's got his fist

957
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:14.199
up and he's sort of telling a story about what's

958
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:19.119
going on. Uh. And then I guess lastly, what I'll

959
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:21.159
say is I think one of the things that Ryan

960
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.119
North writes, or one of the characters that Ryan North

961
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:27.679
writes the best in these comics is one of I

962
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.679
think all of our favorite characters to Lynn, like he

963
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:35.519
is just completely nailing. Yeah, that's the image.

964
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:36.320
He is just.

965
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:43.559
Completely nailing to Lynn for me in this issue, Like, oh,

966
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:48.079
there's the one part the very beginning where they're talking

967
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:51.519
about like what they think the ex Caliban is gonna say,

968
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:56.960
and like to Lynn's internal dialogue is I fucking nailed it?

969
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:01.199
You know, Like I love that she's a Vulcan, but

970
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:04.280
she has that kind of like internal dialogue that we

971
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:08.400
get to see in things like the comics. So yeah,

972
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:12.000
I really liked this issue. I definitely think this is

973
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.719
way better than the next issue we're going to talk about,

974
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.280
but we'll we'll talk about details on the next one.

975
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:20.360
So I I totally dug this issue. I think the

976
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:24.280
writing was great. I thought the art was very passable

977
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.400
and very good. So I'll give this one an eight

978
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:26.920
point five.

979
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:34.440
Look at that four Deac mold. Wow. All right, David,

980
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:35.960
you want to roll the next one and we'll have

981
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:37.000
Paul do the intro.

982
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.400
Paul, we have lost your audio, buddy. I'm not sure

983
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:49.639
what's going on. You do not appear to be.

984
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:51.760
We got.

985
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:56.239
You don't want to hear me, you know, either swearing

986
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:57.599
or parting or whatever I'm doing.

987
00:58:57.719 --> 00:58:59.800
Right, I didn't know exactly what you were saying, but

988
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:00.920
I it was awesome.

989
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:06.239
It is bitter, so bitter, Oh my god.

990
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:06.519
Yeah.

991
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.920
So we are at issue three, as we had to

992
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:15.079
set up here, and basically in this situation, the Cerritos

993
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.159
is embarked on good old second contact as we seem

994
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:22.440
to have happening a lot here. This one is a

995
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.920
lot more focused on Carol Freeman to start off with, right,

996
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:28.679
and they're having second contact with this kind of old

997
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:34.320
school sci fi civilization, the Clerew, right, and the joke

998
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:38.599
is that it's ah, you know, how did they describe it?

999
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:43.440
Everyone has their perfect role in society. But the society

1000
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:47.280
has developed precisely as ancient Earth's early science fiction authors represented.

1001
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:50.559
So there's a lot of big, clunky robots and streamlined

1002
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.800
you know, monoails and whatnot like that, right, but they're

1003
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.639
basically you know. And then also everyone's so enlightened. It's

1004
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:59.320
a planet of guidance counselors, right, is the joke, right,

1005
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.480
But as they're leaving at the end of their mission,

1006
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:05.320
the aliens the Klrew, and I thought that must be

1007
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:08.719
like an anagram or something. I was beating that thing backwards,

1008
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:10.079
trying to figure out what is that? Is there a

1009
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.199
joke in the clue? C A L A R E W.

1010
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.719
I was trying to figure out I could, I couldn't.

1011
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:15.800
Figure it out.

1012
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.559
So I don't know. It's just a very odd name.

1013
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:20.480
And when something stands out like that, I'm like, there

1014
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:22.440
must be something going on there, but I didn't find it.

1015
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:26.239
So anyhow, as a parting gift to the crew of

1016
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:29.280
the Cerritos, they give Carol Freeman the gift of a

1017
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:34.639
career and personality guidance reports prepared by their personality analysts,

1018
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.000
which is very odd, right. And so basically the idea

1019
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:38.880
is everyone has a report that talks about like what

1020
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:44.320
they would be most based on their personas, what job

1021
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:45.599
they would be most suited for.

1022
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:46.199
Right.

1023
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:48.639
So that's that everybody gets one of those. And so

1024
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:52.960
there's like a little aside of everybody, uh, you know,

1025
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.440
kind of navel gazing about their personality reports.

1026
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:56.599
Right.

1027
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.400
And the funny part is when they're in the cafeteria

1028
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:02.920
or the mess hall, they're eating what sort of looks

1029
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:07.159
a lot like McDonald's, right, except there's like a red

1030
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.159
you know, French fries with the delta shield thing on

1031
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:11.599
it if you can see that. So I thought that

1032
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:13.960
was pretty funny. I don't know if we've seen that before,

1033
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.159
but that would be what they replicate. Was kind of

1034
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:22.000
funny to me. So they're all talking about these personality reports,

1035
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:25.760
and and Rutherford takes center stage, right of course, because

1036
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.320
he does that, right, and a lot of self conscious Oh,

1037
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:32.320
I should be better because I have an implant and

1038
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:35.719
I'm you know, almost half cybernetic, and how I should

1039
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.719
be doing better? And he's just is never good enough, right,

1040
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:43.039
and and Tendee's very supportive of him no matter what. No,

1041
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.400
you're fine, You're doing a great job. And then the

1042
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:48.760
mission at large seems to be there trying to figure

1043
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:52.800
out how this missing star system okay, and then there's

1044
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:56.239
this great, big round abyss, right, a kin to almost

1045
01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:59.199
like a black hole, right, and then more stars start

1046
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:03.119
disappearing as well, and then to Lynn comes up and

1047
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:08.079
does this really incredibly dry PowerPoint presentation that's really what

1048
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:11.800
it is, right, And it's basically, this huge abyss is

1049
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:16.440
a bubble of what she describes as like nucleated meta stability, right.

1050
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:20.519
And then as they're approaching it in this soritos all

1051
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.800
of a sudden way out of character, to Lynn takes charge,

1052
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:26.599
abruptly leaps over to the helm, you know, as opposed

1053
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:30.679
to giving the captain a chance to give an order, right,

1054
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:33.760
and just takes control and gets them out of there,

1055
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:35.760
because she said there was no time to go by

1056
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:41.719
normal procedures, right. And apparently it's kind of like what

1057
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:45.199
we see in every season of Discovery, right, this massive

1058
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:50.800
you know, existential threat that's going to destroy the entire universe, right,

1059
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.960
because you can't just have a modest, you know, simple

1060
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:59.039
problem has to be like, you know, universe rendic. It's

1061
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:03.840
what she just decribes us, like some area of vacuum collapse, right,

1062
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.320
that's eventually going to destroy the universe. And so they

1063
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.519
get the idea, after doing all this talking and testing

1064
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:14.679
and just an insane amount of techno battle that will

1065
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:17.800
make your guacamole drip out of your ears, I mean,

1066
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:21.440
just just annoying to the extreme, they get the idea

1067
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.559
to use, rather than blow up the warp core of

1068
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:26.159
their own ship to try to slow the Bubbles expansion,

1069
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:28.880
they show out, shove out all the shuttle crafts and

1070
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.840
use their little warp corps to try to slow the

1071
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.599
bubbles expansion. And they do, you know, a little bit,

1072
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.159
you know, a small amount, right, But then some kind

1073
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.800
of unknown energy emerges from the Bubble Universe, we don't

1074
01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:44.159
know what yet, and it ends with a to be

1075
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:48.639
continued as the panels gradually get darker and darker, appearing

1076
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:52.400
that the Thridos has gotten the Bubble Universe's expansion. And

1077
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:55.840
I just thought this comic, this issue was just like

1078
01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:59.880
watching paint dry. I thought it was incredibly tedious, and

1079
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.280
you know. I mean, we joke about all different parts

1080
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:04.679
of the Star Trek universe being full of techno babble,

1081
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:07.480
but this was just almost nothing. But and it wasn't

1082
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:10.400
even funny, right, it was just like technobabble on top

1083
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:14.000
of techno battle is boring. It was tedious. I didn't

1084
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.599
get much out of it at all. You know, there's

1085
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:22.880
really no funny memorable moments for me at all. It's like, okay, done,

1086
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:24.960
move on to the next issue and hope it's better.

1087
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:28.199
But it had nothing really that seemed to serve as

1088
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:31.920
connective tissue for me to issue too, which was much better. Right,

1089
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.960
There was no I didn't feel like the plot was

1090
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:36.800
advancing at all. I felt it. We were just like,

1091
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:43.800
you know, it just felt like wow, you know, Salisbury

1092
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:49.119
Steak again, right, yeah, you're giving me again. We just

1093
01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:50.679
had this like earlier in the week.

1094
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:51.960
What it's like.

1095
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:54.920
No, it's just yeah, not a good effort for me.

1096
01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:59.000
So I'll give it a three because it just wasn't

1097
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:01.800
very good. And if you liked it, that's great. I'm awesome.

1098
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:04.199
If you can you're able to take an enjoyment from that,

1099
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:07.159
I am more power to you, you know, I'm just not.

1100
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.320
I thought it was just like, you know, I grade

1101
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:13.920
content from any franchise based on other content said franchise

1102
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.559
has produced, and they've done much better, and this was

1103
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:20.039
really mediocre. So it gets a three and let's move on.

1104
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:24.880
All right, A three from Paul and moving on. Well,

1105
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.519
you know, yeah, this one was not as good as

1106
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:33.880
the first one. I agree, the issue too, was much

1107
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:37.159
much better. This one didn't feel like a as much

1108
01:05:37.159 --> 01:05:39.920
as an episode of the show as the first issue did.

1109
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:45.480
This one just felt to me to be slow and sloggy,

1110
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:49.960
And yeah it didn't. It didn't have the punch or

1111
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.960
the bite or the humor of the first issue and

1112
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:57.920
didn't really feel like lower decks to me. So I'm

1113
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.320
with Paul. But as usual, well I gotta I gotta

1114
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:03.920
go with a four point three, you know, I gotta

1115
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:05.199
throw in that decimo because.

1116
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:09.000
Paul loves those. Yeah, and also to guys, and see

1117
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:10.719
if you had the same reaction Jim, right. I mean,

1118
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:14.239
you know, Rutherford's a likable character typically, right, you know,

1119
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:19.679
he's he's he's he's genuine, he's he's self effacing, you know,

1120
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:23.000
he's he means well, he's pleasant, right, But here that

1121
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.199
he's just drawn to be so one note and he's

1122
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:31.679
very annoying. He's just he's just you know it, just yeah, tedious,

1123
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:33.920
and it's just it's just the whole I'm like, reading

1124
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.440
it again, I'm like, oh, so repetitive, you know, and

1125
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:38.760
just like panel after panel of him like oh you

1126
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.639
could be better, and I'm like, yeah, so I'm sorry.

1127
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.159
Yeah, it didn't feel like an episode like the first

1128
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.400
issue did so. But I mean the artwork I thought

1129
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:52.280
was fine, you know, I thought the layout was fine.

1130
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:57.239
I just thought the story was just not engaging at all.

1131
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:00.559
So that's what What about you, Charles, what'd you think?

1132
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:06.119
Okay, kind of pulling my issue in looking at it

1133
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:08.920
well brought up one of the things that I thought

1134
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:12.599
about too, with like why does their meal in the

1135
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:19.400
lounge look like McDonald's. But interesting, it's like that's exactly

1136
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:27.679
what it looked like. And talking about their careers now

1137
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:31.079
they said everybody said, oh, there's nothing real memorable in

1138
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:36.079
this one. There was one, and Eric who disappeared would

1139
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:40.719
probably agree with me. I like the one scene that

1140
01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:43.480
in the side notes let me even click on the

1141
01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:46.039
side notes, which I love what they sell here.

1142
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:51.079
A vulcan raises.

1143
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:57.119
One eyes eyebrow is if not routine, then at least precedent,

1144
01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:02.480
but a vulcan putting both eyebrow into full raised red

1145
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:05.719
alert status. That, my friend, is when you know something

1146
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:11.960
has gone very very wrong. And I love where it's like, okay,

1147
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:16.039
both eyebrowes go straight up. It's like, okay, you know

1148
01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:17.119
something's wrong.

1149
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:20.520
And to Lynn.

1150
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:26.399
Comes across the bridge over one panel, right into the

1151
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:31.880
navigation and starts putting commands in, pushing Boemler out of

1152
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:35.960
the way, And I love how the Bruce cruise kind

1153
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:41.399
of fighting over what she's doing and not realizing I

1154
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:45.800
was singing surpriseddn't they fight her. It's like, okay, she's

1155
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.039
a vulcan. I think she might have any clue what's

1156
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:52.239
going on. And when Carol Freedman kind of goes like, well,

1157
01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:55.039
what are you doing? She says up to Carle Friedman,

1158
01:08:55.079 --> 01:09:02.119
it's like, oh, I'll be back. And I love that

1159
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:05.279
look because then you look in it's like, oh, she's

1160
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:11.560
starting instellar cartohotography, and it's like, okay, she knows about

1161
01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:15.079
some of this stuff. It's nice to actually see a

1162
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:19.920
captain who's like, okay, I've been there. I want to

1163
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:25.199
put some input because I understand what's going on. I've

1164
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:27.600
researched this topic. I know what's going on.

1165
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:32.439
To Lynn's to Glynn's examination.

1166
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:36.079
Yes, was very dry and I'm very confused. They put

1167
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:41.920
the little video up explaining the dummies guide to this material,

1168
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:48.039
and that got me even MOREKT music I love Killed. Yeah,

1169
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:50.239
I think I should have looked at this video before

1170
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:51.000
we ran it.

1171
01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:54.239
And the rescue's like, ooh, this is good.

1172
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:57.840
It's like, Okay, we could tell some of the level

1173
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:03.960
of intellect to some of the crew with times, but

1174
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:10.319
I definitely to be continued what's going on as these

1175
01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:15.079
stories are gone, So I think the next one's going

1176
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.199
to be a little better. I do agree this one

1177
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.840
wasn't as good as the last one, but because of

1178
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:26.239
some of a couple of interactions with the crew, I'll

1179
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:26.960
give it a seven.

1180
01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:35.359
All right, What about you, David, Yeah, this one.

1181
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.520
Didn't really fit the vibe as I was saying the

1182
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:43.840
last time with the other comic. The art style just

1183
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.800
threw me off. Continuity for me just kind of like

1184
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:50.840
took me out of the element of actual lower decks.

1185
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:56.439
They didn't look at all to me like themselves as

1186
01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:01.000
they were being drawn. As you can see, Boimler just

1187
01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:04.680
kind of looked a little goofy almost in my opinion.

1188
01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:07.319
But I mean it's just for some reason, it just

1189
01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:10.119
seemed a little it just took me out of the element.

1190
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:14.119
I didn't like the story plot too bad, too much,

1191
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:20.479
because I mean, like you guys said, it has it

1192
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.439
had been done before, and New Trek would be really

1193
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:28.760
cool to see even in a comic book. But uh, yeah,

1194
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.319
I mean it had some surprising elements. It had some

1195
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.640
funny parts. I did like what child were talking about,

1196
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:38.359
like the whole you know, interaction video with that cowboy

1197
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:42.520
something or other. But yeah, just kind of like thrown

1198
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:46.520
out to the old western type vibe that Posh had. So,

1199
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.760
I mean it was kind of an interesting comic, but

1200
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:53.600
I don't know canon it almost felt like they were

1201
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:57.640
from a different alternate universe to me. It didn't feel

1202
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:04.720
like the actual comics that we've seen in the previous one.

1203
01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:09.520
But we have to see what to be continued about

1204
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:12.399
part four, I'm a summing show.

1205
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:15.479
Yeah, I don't know.

1206
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:18.479
I'm gonna have to give this one probably a two.

1207
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:20.640
I didn't really like it all that much.

1208
01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:23.880
All right, We got a two from David, and that

1209
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:27.000
brings us back to Eric. You got the caboose this time, buddy.

1210
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:31.439
Yeah, I am pretty much in line with you guys.

1211
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:36.960
There's this universe ending component to this one which actually

1212
01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.760
feels a lot like the We haven't talked about these yet,

1213
01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:43.640
but the ongoing Star Trek title right now kind of

1214
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:47.119
has this same theme going on, and I am not

1215
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:49.800
loving it as opposed to the Defiant title, which I

1216
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:56.239
think is totally nailing it. So the the premise of

1217
01:12:56.359 --> 01:13:00.760
the entire comic is not really that interesting to me. Yeah,

1218
01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:03.079
to back up a little bit, I guess on that

1219
01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:06.520
very first page there's always the kind of Badgie recap

1220
01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:13.600
of you know what's going on? And number one, in

1221
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:16.239
the past, I've already complained about the two point font

1222
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:18.760
or whatever, which is almost impossible to read by anybody

1223
01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:22.640
who's over forty five years old. So, you like, the

1224
01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:26.000
graphic design looks great, but it needs to be you know,

1225
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:28.000
when a leven buy seventeen comic to be able to

1226
01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:32.079
read it without at least number three readers going on.

1227
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:37.479
And in this particular case, Badgie is particularly brutal and biting,

1228
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:41.000
and I I mean, I've never loved Badgie as a character,

1229
01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:44.319
and this to me brings out all of his worst

1230
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:47.159
qualities where he's just kind of like mean and brutal

1231
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.520
and not very Star Treking at all. So I don't

1232
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:54.960
love Badgie, and having him introduce each one of these

1233
01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:57.600
comics is kind of like a it's Badgie again, Okay,

1234
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:01.760
here we go. The footnotes, which are one of my

1235
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.760
favorite parts of Ryan North's writing, did not hit in

1236
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:09.680
this one. There was one that I thought was particularly good,

1237
01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:14.319
but that's because it contained an extremely bad pun that

1238
01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:17.920
made me laugh out loud. It's the one where they're

1239
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:23.119
talking about that they have to like confirm the existence

1240
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:25.279
of this thing before they go there, and they say,

1241
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:29.000
confirming the existence of a system in your navigational database

1242
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:35.000
before you travel to it is just good praxis. So

1243
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:40.159
to me that was a fantastic like Star Trek six reference,

1244
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:44.039
and I did laugh at that one. I laughed at

1245
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:47.800
zero percent of the other ones that were in that

1246
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:52.560
were in the issue, So yeah, I don't know, man.

1247
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:56.239
There was like a fun concept of the whatever it was,

1248
01:14:56.319 --> 01:15:00.920
the Star Trek Starfleet rhetoric something or other or the

1249
01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:04.239
Starfy core of rhetoric engineers, which I thought was kind

1250
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:07.439
of a fun idea. It's like the spin Doctors of

1251
01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:15.319
star Fleet, but the story wasn't that great and the

1252
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.039
character writing wasn't that. It kind of felt like they

1253
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:20.640
phoned it in. Like in general, it felt like they

1254
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:23.119
needed to produce an issue and they were just like, Oh,

1255
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:26.960
let's get this stuff into the issue and just get

1256
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.359
it out. And I didn't like that. I recognize, and

1257
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:33.279
I'm going to back up what I said in the

1258
01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:36.520
first issue. I recognized that the style of the art

1259
01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:39.560
is a little bit different and that the characters have

1260
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.920
slightly different proportions. A lot of them have a lot

1261
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:44.359
narrower proportions than we see in the show, and that

1262
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:48.600
kind of stuff. As a frequent reader of myriad comics

1263
01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:54.800
throughout various publishers, stylistic choices don't really bug me that much.

1264
01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:57.720
It's like, how are the panels laid out? How is

1265
01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:00.560
the perspective look? How do the character is actually?

1266
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:00.640
Like?

1267
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:03.079
Can you tell which character is which? Like in the

1268
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:06.760
last issue, Scotty didn't look like Scotty at all to me,

1269
01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:10.720
So I I that bugged me. In this issue, I

1270
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:12.520
can tell who all the characters are. I like all

1271
01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:16.720
of the characters so while they look a little bit

1272
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.880
different from the show, it doesn't really bother me that much. So, yeah,

1273
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:25.239
this issue was pretty lukewarm to me. I didn't think

1274
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:29.720
it was like awful awful awful, but it definitely did

1275
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:34.000
not hit like the last one did. And I'm a

1276
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:36.319
little bit concerned as we go for I mean, we're

1277
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:38.399
going to talk about future issues here, but like, I'm

1278
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:40.720
a little bit concerned of where the comic's going right now.

1279
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:45.000
So I will say I think I can solidly give

1280
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:50.359
this one. I'm going to give it a four. I

1281
01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:53.760
think it deserves a four. It certainly does not deserve

1282
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:58.439
any better. And I think that's mostly on the strength

1283
01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:03.399
of the art that I personally like and a couple

1284
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:05.600
of good jokes here and there, But the story in

1285
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:08.920
general is garbage as far as I'm concerned.

1286
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:14.159
So there you go, four four, all right, Charles. So overall,

1287
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:17.560
what do we have our final scores for both of

1288
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:24.840
issue number two and issue number three from from the

1289
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:25.600
Truck Spurts.

1290
01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:29.880
Well, you can definitely see an opinion on this one.

1291
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:37.199
Issue two, we gave it an eight point three. Issue three,

1292
01:17:37.359 --> 01:17:39.399
we gave it a four point oh six.

1293
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:45.439
Wow, that's that's low. How low can you go?

1294
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:46.279
Pretty low?

1295
01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:51.560
That's pretty low, all right, guys. So that wraps up

1296
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:54.840
our Star Trek lower decks comic corner of issue number

1297
01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:58.560
two and issue number three, and that brings us up

1298
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:22.439
to stop our Trek birthdays. That was not al song,

1299
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:25.199
all right, guys. This is the part of the show

1300
01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:28.039
where we do our Star Trek birthdays, and we always

1301
01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:31.319
start off our Star Trek Birthdays are remembering those members

1302
01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:33.600
of our Star Trek family who, sadly enough, are no

1303
01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:35.039
longer with us, and for.

1304
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:38.359
That we turned to Eric, Yeah, Jim. This week we

1305
01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:42.159
start out with someone who Charles was mentioning earlier. We

1306
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:47.800
have Lee Berger, who was the actor who played the

1307
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:52.520
ex Caliban's recreation of Abraham Lincoln in the TS third

1308
01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:56.000
season episode The Savage Curtain that ties directly into issue

1309
01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:59.680
number two that we were just talking about. Lee Berger

1310
01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:02.960
was a World War II veteran in charge of entertainment

1311
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:07.319
services for soldiers serving in North Africa during World War II,

1312
01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:09.479
a very important theater. So it's kind of cool that

1313
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.640
he had that sort of influence not only over the war,

1314
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:16.880
but over the morale of the soldiers that were positioned there.

1315
01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:20.680
He's perhaps best known for his portrayal of Joseph Arlington

1316
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:24.600
Ainders on the television series Dynasty, which of course is

1317
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:27.520
a nighttime soap opera, so to speak, from nineteen eighty

1318
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:30.840
one through nineteen eighty three. He also briefly appeared on

1319
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:34.039
another nighttime soap opera, Falcon Crest in nineteen eighty one,

1320
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:38.279
as Justin Nash, but generally speaking, appeared in more than

1321
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:41.800
two hundred television shows, including such shows as The Munsters,

1322
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:45.800
The Adams Family, The Man from Uncle Mannix, Mission Impossible

1323
01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:49.079
You Name It. From that era, he was probably on

1324
01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:53.239
the show so Lee Berger was born April tenth, nineteen

1325
01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:55.960
twenty four, and we lost him back in two thousand

1326
01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:58.119
and seven at the age of eighty two years old.

1327
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:02.680
Happy birthday to Lee Bearshaer, Happy Birthday as well to

1328
01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:06.119
Ted Gering. He played the role of a policeman in

1329
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:11.800
the TOS second season episode Assignment Earth. Interestingly enough, Garng

1330
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:16.000
also played a New York police sergeant in Willie Dynamite

1331
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:19.960
in nineteen seventy four, and also played a Los Angeles

1332
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:23.239
police detective in Out of Bounds from nineteen eighty six.

1333
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:28.520
Later had a reoccurring role on the show Alice, which

1334
01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:31.079
we have all seen at one time or another. Ted

1335
01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:34.319
Gering born in April sixth, nineteen twenty nine. We lost

1336
01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:36.800
him back in the year two thousand and seventy one

1337
01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:40.319
years old. Happy Birthday, ten. Happy Birthday as well to

1338
01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:45.920
Anthony Caruso, the actor who portrayed Bea Okmonics from the

1339
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.640
TOS second season episode A Piece of the Action. For

1340
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:54.560
more than three decades, Hollywood defaulted to a small core

1341
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:57.800
of group actors when it came to casting convincing mobsters,

1342
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:02.880
gamblers and racketeers. And Russo provided a reliable source of

1343
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.800
menace and was amply utilized in films and in countless

1344
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:09.760
television episodes beginning in nineteen forty one. I mean, look

1345
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:13.279
at it, it looks like a gangster right. In nineteen

1346
01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:15.800
thirty four, Anthony decided to forego a career as an

1347
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:19.479
opera singer and instead took up acting with a stock

1348
01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:24.840
company in Long Beach, California. He appeared in numerous feature films,

1349
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:30.319
most notably the nineteen forty crime drama Johnny Apollo and

1350
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:34.159
the nineteen fifty film noir The Asphalt Jungle, But honestly,

1351
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:37.800
to get through his list of credentials on IMDb takes

1352
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:41.680
a solid seven to eight spins of the mouse wheel.

1353
01:21:42.840 --> 01:21:45.840
In stark contrast to his screen image, Caruso was the

1354
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:50.119
consummate family man in private life, happily married for sixty

1355
01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:55.239
three years, and enjoyed the simple pleasures of gardening and cooking.

1356
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:58.079
So I love that about him. He played such a

1357
01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:01.279
different character from who he was in real life. Anthony

1358
01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:05.840
Caruso born April seventh, nineteen sixteen lost back in two

1359
01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:08.319
thousand and three at the age of eighty six years old.

1360
01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:13.399
Happy Birthday, Anthony, Happy Birthday. As well to Stanley Adams,

1361
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:17.319
the actor and writer of stage and screen. In nineteen

1362
01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:20.600
sixty seven, he played Sereno Jones in the TOS second

1363
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:24.039
season episode The Trouble with Tribles. He also co wrote

1364
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:27.520
the third season episode The Mark of Gideon, and went

1365
01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:30.520
on to contribute his voice to Star Trek the animated

1366
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:35.399
series first season episode More Tribles, More Troubles, reprising the

1367
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:38.760
role of course of Sereno Jones. He was born in

1368
01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:41.920
New York City and made appearances in several films during

1369
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:46.000
the nineteen thirties thirties, but continued to work primarily in

1370
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:49.600
theater along the Way, not in television. During World War Two,

1371
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:52.920
he served as a staff sergeant in the US Army

1372
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:56.319
Corps of Engineers, and his acting career resumed afterward when

1373
01:22:56.359 --> 01:22:59.479
he recreated his stage role of the bartender in the

1374
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:02.319
nineteen fifty one film version of Death of a Salesman

1375
01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:06.840
that he decided to pursue a consistent career in that

1376
01:23:07.039 --> 01:23:12.039
medium of theater. One major film credit includes Alfred Hitchcock's

1377
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:15.960
North By Northwest from nineteen fifty nine. He was also

1378
01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:19.359
in Blake Edward's Breakfast at Tiffany's from nineteen sixty one,

1379
01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:23.479
and he was in the nineteen sixty three drama Lily's

1380
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:27.880
of the Field. He worked through the seventies and unfortunately

1381
01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:32.479
eventually suffered a back injury that kind of cut short

1382
01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:36.000
his acting career. But Stanley Adams, what a great face,

1383
01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:40.479
what a great voice, great personality. He was really enjoyed

1384
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:42.640
in all the things he was in. Born in April seventh,

1385
01:23:43.159 --> 01:23:46.439
nineteen fifteen, lost back in nineteen seventy seven at the

1386
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:50.199
young age of sixty two years old. Happy Birthdays, Stanley Adams.

1387
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:55.960
Happy birthday as well to Arthur Batanatis, who played Lieutenant

1388
01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:59.560
de Motto in the original series third season episode That

1389
01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:05.119
Which Survives. Botanatas got into acting after performing stand up

1390
01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:09.359
routines in front of fellow gis in Europe during World

1391
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:13.439
War Two. He was a stocky general purpose actor, a

1392
01:24:13.520 --> 01:24:16.720
prolific face on the small screen during the nineteen sixties

1393
01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:21.920
and nineteen seventies, having made numerous other television appearances like

1394
01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:26.039
Happy Days, The Odd Couple, The Wild Wild West, and

1395
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:28.840
The Outer Limits, but he kind of had a thing

1396
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:34.479
for epics. One of Botanatas's early motion picture appearances was

1397
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:37.880
in the nineteen fifty six biblical epic The Ten Commandments,

1398
01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:42.039
and in nineteen sixty he also appeared in Spartacus and

1399
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:44.760
if you haven't seen either one of those films, you

1400
01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:51.000
should go check them out. Other notable appearances include as

1401
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.960
a henchman in the Twilight Zone from nineteen fifty nine.

1402
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:59.079
He was in Twilight Zone The Mirror in nineteen sixty one,

1403
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:03.920
the Mongol leader Batu in The Time Tunnel from nineteen

1404
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:10.720
sixty six. So Arthur Batanatis Happy birthday April ninth, nineteen

1405
01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:12.720
twenty three was when he was born. We lost him

1406
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:14.760
back in two thousand at the age of seventy six

1407
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:18.600
years old and last, but not least, on my list.

1408
01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:23.840
Tonight we say happy birthday to Frank John Gorshan Junior.

1409
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.720
You recognize that face. He was an impressionist comedian and

1410
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:32.720
actor who played Commissioner Bel in the TOS third season

1411
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:38.119
episode Let That Be Your Last Battlefield. But I originally,

1412
01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:41.039
of course know him for his portrayal as the Riddler

1413
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:44.880
in the nineteen sixties television series Batman, for which he

1414
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:50.239
received his first Emmy nomination, the only Emmy nomination for

1415
01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:53.119
the entire series, and he's the guy who got it.

1416
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:56.279
After serving in the army during the Korean War, Gorshon

1417
01:25:56.359 --> 01:25:58.760
had a role in the nineteen fifty seventh film The

1418
01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:02.159
True Story of Jesse James, which of course also starred

1419
01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:07.560
Jeffrey Hunter and Frank Overton. A couple of uncredited uncredited

1420
01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:10.399
movie appearances along the way, and in nineteen sixty five,

1421
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:14.239
Gorshon had a supporting role in the popular Disney film

1422
01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:18.640
That Darn Cat. In nineteen seventy nine, Gorshon appeared in

1423
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:21.439
a two part episode of the cult science fiction series

1424
01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:25.479
Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth Century, and in two

1425
01:26:25.520 --> 01:26:28.760
thousand and three he reunited with most of that surviving

1426
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:34.359
Batman cast, including TV Catwoman Julie Numar and movie Catwoman

1427
01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:37.159
Lee Merriweather in the TV special Return to the bat

1428
01:26:37.279 --> 01:26:43.399
Cave The Misadventures of Adam and Bert. But the kind

1429
01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:46.920
of last thing that I know Frank Gorshon for was

1430
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:50.560
in the early two thousands, there was a great animated

1431
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:55.039
series called The Batman in which he starred as doctor

1432
01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:59.399
Hugo Strange. And if you've seen that that show recently,

1433
01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:02.600
you'll know that he's kind of the last villain that

1434
01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:06.640
you see in the final episode of that series. So

1435
01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:13.039
fantastic actor, very iconic. I love this episode. Let that

1436
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:15.479
be your last battlefield. But I really really love him

1437
01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:18.680
as the Riddler as well. So Frank Gorson Junior born

1438
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:21.560
in April fifth, nineteen thirty three. We lost him back

1439
01:27:22.119 --> 01:27:23.960
in May of two thousand and five at the age

1440
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:27.239
of seventy two years old. Happy birthday to Frank. And

1441
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.039
that you guys does it for our remembrances this week.

1442
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:34.800
Okay, thank you Eric.

1443
01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:35.479
Awesome.

1444
01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:41.960
So let's go on a few birthdays. Let's start off

1445
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:46.399
the Happy birthday Alexander Enburg. Actor best known is star

1446
01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:50.520
Trek fans or his recording role with Insynboric in Star

1447
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:57.680
Trek Voyagers, one of our recognizable Vulcans in that series.

1448
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:05.319
Birthday to Mona Grunt, Norwegian actress and model who played

1449
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:13.880
Entign Graham and TG's four season episode Identity Crisis. Happy

1450
01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:18.359
Birthday to Ca c Rawl, actress who played Rachel Garrett

1451
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:24.760
in Star Trek Section thirty one, and last one of

1452
01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:28.600
my list. Happy Birthday to Casey Biggs is the actor

1453
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:32.239
best known for portrayal as Jamar in Star Trek d

1454
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:35.079
Space nine, as well as several other roles.

1455
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:40.600
Let's just talk about, real quick, how great of a

1456
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:46.279
character Goldemar is and how much Casey Biggs completely knocked

1457
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.680
this character out of the park. I mean, I'm a

1458
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:52.960
huge DS nine fan, and as as character arcs go,

1459
01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:56.880
Goldemar has probably one of the greatest arcs in Deep

1460
01:28:56.920 --> 01:29:00.760
Space nine, and his portrayal of this particular character is

1461
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.479
so on point. I just want to say, Casey Biggs,

1462
01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:05.880
if you ever hear this podcast, I love you, man,

1463
01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:08.399
and I would love to talk to you because you

1464
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:11.279
are one of my favorite all time characters from Deep

1465
01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:11.840
Space nine.

1466
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:17.239
Yes, sounds exactly.

1467
01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:17.640
Eric.

1468
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:21.039
Eric is he the one who discovers he's got like

1469
01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:23.239
a half Bajoran daughter.

1470
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.920
Uh no, that's that's Golducott. But but he's the one

1471
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:32.079
who like is a heavy, heavy drinker and like eventually

1472
01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:35.800
kind of comes around to having more empathy for the

1473
01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:38.760
Bajorans and kind of their entire cause along the way.

1474
01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:43.319
Yeah, okay, so he kind of like the faith he

1475
01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:44.079
does does.

1476
01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:46.880
He starts out hard ass Kardassian, and as the series

1477
01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:49.560
goes on, he just like evolves and you sort of

1478
01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:53.359
see and it's and it's his it's because he's constantly

1479
01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:56.279
kind of being berated by people like gold Ucott for

1480
01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:58.720
his heavy drinking and that sort of stuff that he's

1481
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:02.680
he like starts feeling. He starts off feeling really bad

1482
01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:05.520
about himself. But then as he kind of sheds the

1483
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:09.600
shackles of this drinking, he kind of discovers himself and

1484
01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:12.840
he sort of finds who he really is inside himself,

1485
01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:15.399
and you see the evolution of his character happened very quickly.

1486
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:18.600
Yeah, so it's almost like one of those Nazi officers

1487
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:23.479
who realizes absolutely, I've been guys. It's like, you know,

1488
01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:24.840
and they have an enlightenment.

1489
01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:31.039
As usual, they killed them off immediately after the enlightenment.

1490
01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:35.359
Yeah, we also apparently. Was he also the ex husband

1491
01:30:35.399 --> 01:30:39.319
of Hanna Dohnson Dohnson Dawson.

1492
01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:42.399
Maybe I don't remember that part.

1493
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:49.199
Yeah, yeah, when she was on Voyager and then she dropped.

1494
01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:53.600
You mean in real life? Okay, Like I have no idea,

1495
01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:56.560
I know a lot about the character.

1496
01:30:58.439 --> 01:30:59.479
And klingon on.

1497
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:04.159
Yeah, well, sorry to digress, Continue on, Charles.

1498
01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:07.880
Actually, I'll pass the candle over to Paul.

1499
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:14.640
Alrighty, Charles, thank you, sir. Well, let's continue these April

1500
01:31:14.760 --> 01:31:19.079
cavalcade of birthdays in the Trek universe here, friends, and

1501
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:23.680
we'll say happy birthday to Alexandra Lighten, actress who played

1502
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:27.520
the role of Jammel in the Classic Enterprise fourth season

1503
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:31.520
episode The A and R. All right, excellent For those

1504
01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:35.880
of us who are big Andrian aficionados, Eric's given a

1505
01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:38.399
big thumbs up. Would you say, one of the greatest

1506
01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:39.520
Androian episodes ever?

1507
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:43.039
Eric, Yes, I love any Andorian episode, but this one

1508
01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:45.920
in particular is so great because it has such like

1509
01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:51.920
cultural racial implications at which Star Trek Enterprise doesn't often

1510
01:31:52.039 --> 01:31:54.199
touch on. And to me, this is one of the ones.

1511
01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:57.000
It's just like, WHOA, you're blowing my mind right now?

1512
01:31:57.119 --> 01:31:57.279
Yeah?

1513
01:31:57.399 --> 01:31:57.560
Yeah.

1514
01:31:57.600 --> 01:31:57.880
Different.

1515
01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:00.680
Also, the first genervation of the an, right, I don't

1516
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:02.159
think we've ever heard about them before.

1517
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:03.000
Nope.

1518
01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:08.840
Yeah, very cool. Love those episodes when when Enterprise uh

1519
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:14.159
hits its sweet spot, right, it's really cool, and I

1520
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:15.960
think it just doesn't get the credit. I think people

1521
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:17.920
are finally discovering it, but I don't think it gets that.

1522
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:20.479
It does feel like that, Like I've heard a lot more,

1523
01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:22.319
I've seen a lot more things online where people are like,

1524
01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:25.079
you know what, Enterprise was actually pretty good and despite

1525
01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:27.560
the whole like temporal cold war, which people still are

1526
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:30.199
pretty cold on, there's a lot of episodes in those

1527
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:33.680
first couple uh seasons that are really good.

1528
01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:36.760
A freaking theme song really torpedo to them. My people

1529
01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:40.119
couldn't get they couldn't get passed through. It's true, You're right.

1530
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:44.119
It's just it's like if you you know, see something

1531
01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:46.800
without their pants at an inopportune moment, right, you're like, oh,

1532
01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:49.039
and I think I kept people from it. It did

1533
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:52.000
a lot of damage. I mean they you know, not

1534
01:32:52.119 --> 01:32:53.720
that it's the worst song in the world. I mean,

1535
01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:55.039
you know, but still it's.

1536
01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:58.239
But you're totally raped. It sort of sets you up,

1537
01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:00.840
like mentally when you go to watch an episode and

1538
01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:04.000
you hear this awful theme song, You're just like, ah am,

1539
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:07.000
I even gonna like this? Right, it doesn't. It doesn't

1540
01:33:07.039 --> 01:33:09.920
have the gravi toss that so many of our Star

1541
01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:10.960
Trek themes actually have.

1542
01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:14.720
Yeah, it doesn't say epic adventure of exploration. Right, just

1543
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:18.439
kind of says, hey, folksy uncle that I don't really

1544
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:20.000
enjoy going to pick.

1545
01:33:19.880 --> 01:33:21.680
Next with singing with his guitar.

1546
01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:32.920
Yeah, I really gotta go. Anyhow, let's media use that man,

1547
01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:37.159
get a battlet up your ass pretty sooner. Okay, but

1548
01:33:37.279 --> 01:33:41.479
great episode. Let's continue the birthday cavalcade. Happy Birthday to

1549
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:44.800
see a Valenza actress from New York City who played

1550
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:50.279
to Shanik in first season Next Gen episode Coming of Age,

1551
01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:54.680
and she came back to the Star Trek universe to

1552
01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:59.479
voice the computer of the Shenzu in Star Trek Discoveries.

1553
01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:04.239
Early is so pretty cool on there, and I'm seeing

1554
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:06.560
that she was also in Space Above and Beyond. Very

1555
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:09.760
not a lot of people are hip to that show,

1556
01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:15.039
but a very cool early precursor sci fi show. They

1557
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:18.079
did some cool stuff way before the you know, Ronald D.

1558
01:34:18.199 --> 01:34:19.600
Moore Battlestar Galactica.

1559
01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:22.520
That I've literally never heard.

1560
01:34:22.359 --> 01:34:24.760
Of that, and I think even before even before I

1561
01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:27.000
think I could have my timeline screwed up because it

1562
01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:29.880
was right around the same time as Starship Troopers. I

1563
01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:33.079
think maybe Space Above Me Beyond came first. But it's

1564
01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:37.960
pretty cool and they had a pretty cool nemesis ongoing,

1565
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:42.119
you know, uh space war thing, I you know, I mean,

1566
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:45.760
I just put up there in the watchability zone with.

1567
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:50.680
The battle Ar two years before A Starship Troopers. Yeah,

1568
01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:54.079
YEA Beyond was ninety five. Starship Troopers is ninety seven.

1569
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:58.640
Because you watch it, you go like this came before Battlestar. Really,

1570
01:34:58.840 --> 01:34:59.800
I mean, it's really interesting.

1571
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:01.840
That is seven point eight on IMDb.

1572
01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:04.279
That's they weren't on for a long time, but they

1573
01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:07.920
did some cool stuff when they were, so definitely it's

1574
01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:10.880
it's one of those unsung gems, right, you know, came

1575
01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:14.079
out at a time when you know, there wasn't as

1576
01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:16.760
much attention for these shows and they flew off the

1577
01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:21.279
air really quickly. But definitely check it out. Love Coming

1578
01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:24.520
of Age. I think that's a really good, uh first

1579
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:27.840
season episode of Next I think a really cool one.

1580
01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:31.000
So Happy Birthday to see you, Happy Birthday also to

1581
01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:36.199
Judy McConnell, actress from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, who played Yeoman Tankrist

1582
01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:39.600
in the second season episode Wolf in the Fold. We

1583
01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:43.239
are always talking about young ladies who ended up getting

1584
01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:48.439
threatened by Minister Hengus there and his Jack the Ripper possession. Right,

1585
01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:51.720
she's like high on the laughing gas there is. She's

1586
01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:58.439
being inappropriately contained. Ye bad, It's like the stuff people

1587
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:01.319
think it's okay. It's just boggling in my mind.

1588
01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:04.680
For those fans who don't know, he voiced Piglet and

1589
01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:06.880
Winnie the Pooh, So if Piglet was holding a knife

1590
01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:08.520
to you, you'd probably be laughing to.

1591
01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:12.399
Yeah, well, you know, maybe maybe he should have, you know,

1592
01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:15.439
maybe you know, not treat the ladies like his own

1593
01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:18.800
personal jar of honey in that case. So it might

1594
01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:26.439
be my advice, that's what I'm Yeah, but you know,

1595
01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:31.000
it's a it's a great thankless time of culture for

1596
01:36:31.239 --> 01:36:33.960
actresses in the sixties who were attracted and god war,

1597
01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:35.439
they were just treated like.

1598
01:36:35.439 --> 01:36:37.840
I can't even imagine what they treated like furniture.

1599
01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:39.880
You had to have like a thick hide. Man. I

1600
01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:42.079
don't know how they pulled it off back then. It's

1601
01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:45.319
just crazy. So let's leave the sixties behind Gillimore contemporary

1602
01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:48.560
here with somebody who I I always wonderful see more

1603
01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:50.680
of in the Star Trek universe here because it's kind

1604
01:36:50.720 --> 01:36:54.079
of made a pretty dolible initial first impression. And that's

1605
01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:59.039
Ed Spiliers. Okay, just this week April seventh, English actor

1606
01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:02.880
Ed Spiliers, who played Jack Crusher and the third season

1607
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:05.800
of Picard, right, a season that I think kind of

1608
01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:08.600
resurrected the Picard Show for me and made it you know,

1609
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:11.840
certainly it's it's you know, it's fair to say, right,

1610
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:14.760
it's just you know, it's season eight of Star Trek

1611
01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:16.640
the Next Generation, right, I mean it's kind of is.

1612
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:20.479
But he was cool. It was an interesting uh uh

1613
01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:23.960
father son dynamic was John Luke there and uh And

1614
01:37:24.199 --> 01:37:25.840
initially we're like, what do you mean Beverley had a

1615
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:29.720
secret son? And everyone was like, including me at the beginning, right,

1616
01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:34.319
it was like canon, oh, you know a lot of

1617
01:37:34.439 --> 01:37:39.760
yelling at clouds ensues. Yes, but I think he did

1618
01:37:39.800 --> 01:37:41.239
a really good job and he hung in there and

1619
01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:45.079
he worked a character and built really good rapport with

1620
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:48.279
Gates McFadden and uh and I think, you know, made

1621
01:37:48.319 --> 01:37:51.399
a good character. So really fun, and so I I think,

1622
01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:56.319
you know, whatever we end up iterations, we see if

1623
01:37:56.359 --> 01:38:00.840
they'll ever be a Star Trek legacy. Uh, you know,

1624
01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:04.920
we don't know, right, there's a lot of chatter. You

1625
01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:06.880
never know, but I think this is a character that

1626
01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:11.439
would be worth continuing to explore. Maybe. So Happy birthday, April, friends,

1627
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:14.920
and we may have one or two more from Uncle Jeers.

1628
01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:18.720
Well, I thank you, Paul. I only have one, and

1629
01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:21.800
I usually saved the Klingons for last, and this guy

1630
01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:25.000
was a Klingon amongst other roles. We want to say

1631
01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:28.560
happy birthday to Phil Morris. And there he is right there.

1632
01:38:29.439 --> 01:38:32.079
He's the actor who played a Mary Native in The

1633
01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:36.279
Star Trek the Original series first season episode Mary. He

1634
01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:39.439
played Cadet Foster and Star Trek three the Search for Spock.

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01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:41.960
You guys might remember him. He's the guy that thought

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01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.359
they should have had a hero's welcome when they got home.

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01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:49.600
And he also played Rama Kalan in Deep Space nine

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01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:54.039
six season episode Rocks and Shoals. He also played John

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01:38:54.119 --> 01:38:58.159
Kelly in The Voyager six season episode one Small Step.

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01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:03.039
But I'm going to send out a hearty law to

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01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.359
him and remember him from the Deep Space nine fifth

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01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:10.880
season episode Looking for Parmak in all the Wrong Places.

1643
01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:15.680
Outstanding episode. And of course who did he play? There's

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01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:18.079
his picture right up there on the screen. He played

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01:39:18.279 --> 01:39:23.399
Commander Sooppak in that episode. And that, my friends, wraps

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01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:28.399
up our Star Trek birthdays. And now it's time for

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01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:30.600
our Star Trek News.

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01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:35.199
Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secure channel.

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01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:41.720
Incoming transmission Enter authorization code, command codes verified.

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01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:45.840
Define parameters of program level nine.

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01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:51.960
Authorization required, Specifying parameters. Transfer updata is complete.

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01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:55.439
Blank alert blank alert.

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I just want to beat to that. I want to add.

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01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:06.039
Parameters, parameters, specify parameters, parameters, parameters.

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01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:10.800
To alight, I'm game, all right.

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01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:13.720
Well, Paul is going to start us off with our

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01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:15.520
first story tonight, take it away.

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01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:19.439
I am because I am a fan of the craft. Yes,

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01:40:20.039 --> 01:40:22.960
so we are going to talk about the great pleasure

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01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:28.000
that Paul Giamatti takes in being the villain, teasing his

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01:40:28.239 --> 01:40:35.560
upcoming work in Star Trek Starfleet Academy. The great, magnificently

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01:40:35.680 --> 01:40:38.880
talented Paul Giamatti is going to be menacing both students

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01:40:38.960 --> 01:40:43.920
and faculty alike in Paramountlus's newest Star Trek series. Excuse me,

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01:40:44.119 --> 01:40:48.800
Star Trek star Fleet Academy. However, Tal's details about the

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01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:51.000
series have remained very top secret so far, but we

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01:40:51.079 --> 01:40:54.359
do know a bit of his villainous character was said

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01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:57.600
to have a mysterious connection to his Starfleet Academy student,

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01:40:59.399 --> 01:41:02.680
he said, talking about his character, he takes great pleasure

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01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:05.199
in being the villain. He likes it and it's very

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01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:07.680
much a part of this thing that he's all, Oh yeah,

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01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:12.359
I'm the bad guy. Oh interesting. Giamatti also talked up

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01:41:12.399 --> 01:41:15.000
the show's sets on Toronto's Star Trek Stage with Star

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01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:18.479
Trek veteran Jonathan Frakes, recently described as the most massive

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01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:21.199
set of any Star Trek series ever. It's one of

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01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:23.039
the biggest. I have been on and been on some

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01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:25.680
big sets, most of them are outdoor, and this is

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01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:28.119
the biggest indoor one, and I can say it's a

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01:41:28.159 --> 01:41:31.600
central part of the show. However, that wasn't the only

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01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:35.079
set that wowed Giamatti. He also discussed the show's starship,

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01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:38.760
the existence of which was also recently revealed by Frakes.

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01:41:39.399 --> 01:41:41.840
The bridge is really impressive in this one, he explained.

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01:41:41.920 --> 01:41:44.279
As impressive as the huge one is, I think the

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01:41:44.319 --> 01:41:47.439
bridge is more impressive. How did Paul Giamatti end up

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01:41:47.560 --> 01:41:49.000
on a Star Trek series anyway.

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01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:49.880
Well.

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01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:53.159
The actor attributes it to his press campaign surrounding his

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01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:56.800
Oscar nomination for the Holdovers. With the production of the

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01:41:56.840 --> 01:42:00.960
show's first season recently rapping, Giammotty did take souvenir home

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01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:03.199
from the set, but he didn't have to resort to

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01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:06.840
villainy to acquire it. He told Colleider, I was actually

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01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:09.000
given something of my characters. They said, do you want

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01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:09.399
to take this?

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01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:11.199
And I did so I did.

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01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:13.520
I didn't just lift a phaser or something like that.

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01:42:14.920 --> 01:42:17.039
He then gave one final tease of the series that

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01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:21.000
should excite Star Trek fans. To my mind, it feels

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01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:24.479
very very old school Star Trek. My character is a

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01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:27.720
very fun villain. He reminds me of a combination of

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01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:32.920
classic track villains. That's all I'll really say. That's very encouraging, Paul.

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01:42:33.560 --> 01:42:36.279
Starfleet Academy will take off where the recently departed Star

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01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:39.560
Trek Discovery left off, with the Federation rebuilding from a

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01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:43.239
massive disaster in the thirty second century. The Academy has

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01:42:43.279 --> 01:42:47.720
reopened its doors after a long period of inactivity. Excitement, adventure,

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01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:51.319
and danger await its new class of students. Those students

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01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:55.199
will be played by Zoe Steiner, Bella Shephard, Caris Brooks,

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01:42:55.319 --> 01:42:59.960
George Hawkins, Kareem Diane and Sandro Rostap. Meanwhile, the fact

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01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:04.159
they will included Chancellor played by Holly Hunter, including star

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01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:09.560
Fleet veterans Jeff jet Reno, tag Notaro, Sylvia Tilly, Mary Wiseman,

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01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:13.520
Charles Vance as in Admiral Vance, oded Fair and Star

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01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:17.399
Trek voyagers. Holographic doctor Robert Priccardo, along with Trek newcomer

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01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:23.119
Gina yeshire Or from Black's Tatiana Masline and professional professional

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01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:27.199
wrestler Becky Lynch will also play in unspecified roles on

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01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:31.479
the series. We don't know when Starfleet Academy is coming

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01:43:31.760 --> 01:43:34.159
or airing. We believe though, we're going to be finding

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01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:38.359
ourselves waiting until twenty twenty six. It sounds like assuming

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01:43:38.439 --> 01:43:40.119
civilization is still.

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01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:44.159
A thing, but we have but we have the return

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01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:46.680
of the Silver Fox, Charles Vance, so you know.

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01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:51.760
By that and you know it's still it's like you know,

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01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:54.159
I mean, we get excited when a new Star Trek

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01:43:54.199 --> 01:43:56.960
comes together, right and whatnot. But you know when I

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01:43:57.239 --> 01:43:58.800
you tell me you got Paul g and Maadi and

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01:43:58.840 --> 01:44:00.880
Holly Hunter on the show. I mean, I'm like, I'm

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01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:05.840
willing to give complete benefit of the doubt and just

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01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:08.119
see what they got, right, I'm going in. I mean,

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01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:10.600
I hear it's very comedic in places, right, I mean

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01:44:10.640 --> 01:44:18.439
I have heard that. I've heard it's very comedic. She's

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01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:20.119
done a lot of work on the show, writing it.

1729
01:44:20.199 --> 01:44:22.880
But she's also you know, Tony Newsman is pretty smart,

1730
01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:26.840
you know, and so she's like, she's good at good comedy, right.

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01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:29.920
And and Paul Giamatti, if you've not seen Sideways, you

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01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:33.119
want to see his comedy jops, you know. So it's like,

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01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:35.439
you know, I would normally be a little skeptical about

1734
01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:37.199
throwing too much comedy in my star Trek as we

1735
01:44:37.279 --> 01:44:38.840
started to see that happening in Strange in the World

1736
01:44:39.079 --> 01:44:42.359
a bit. But but with you know, and Holly Hunter

1737
01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:44.640
from Raising Arizona, these people can do both sides of

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01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:47.720
the street drama and comedy, so maybe this show can

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01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:50.439
do that too. But hearing him describe it as being

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01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:53.439
very old school is kind of cool because that's good

1741
01:44:53.640 --> 01:44:57.520
Paul storytelling, you know, forget the you know, just just

1742
01:44:57.600 --> 01:44:59.920
the kind of storytelling that used to tell. And there

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01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:03.079
series very compelling and exciting, and you know, I think

1744
01:45:03.119 --> 01:45:06.399
it lends itself to a younger group of characters who

1745
01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:08.840
are finding their way right. So I'm excited to see

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01:45:08.840 --> 01:45:11.520
where this goes. But a big fan of Paul Gi

1747
01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:14.239
and Mahdi Man and would love to get him on

1748
01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:17.319
the show. That would be incredible. Get a couple hours

1749
01:45:17.359 --> 01:45:22.279
with this guy, Okay, And I think that's the end

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01:45:22.319 --> 01:45:25.039
of that story. So let's pass this on to Charles

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01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:29.039
there on his palatial rooftop estate. Charles, take it away.

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01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:33.439
Oh thank you, Paul.

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01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:38.119
Star Trek actress Michelle Heard to be honored the twenty

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01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:43.760
twenty five Los Crusis International Film Festival the Lost Crisis

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01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:49.520
International Film Food Film Festival as Michelle hurds with superstard lineup.

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01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:55.880
Herd received the Outsting Achievement in Drama during the festival

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01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:59.760
awards ceremony at seven pm Saturday, April twelve at The

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01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:05.319
Theater in downtown Las Cruses. She will also be headlining

1759
01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:08.840
a panel star Trek bulla Golding from Script to Screen

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01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:13.039
from two to three point thirty Saturday, April twelfth the

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01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:19.079
Rio Grand Theater. Heard recently starred a post Patrick Stewart

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01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:22.920
for the three seasons of Star Trek Bricard she All

1763
01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:29.920
Swiss started along Sidney Swaeney and Glenn Powell and Anybody

1764
01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:35.199
But You, an independent film somewhere in Montana with Graham A.

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01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:40.239
Tavish in theaters now among many TV credits heard will

1766
01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:44.000
appear in the fifth and final season of You. For Netflix.

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01:46:44.880 --> 01:46:50.279
Film cres include the Plus one opposing Cedric theatertainer, bad

1768
01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:56.600
Hair opposed Blair Underwood, and Veneza Williams being Frank opposed

1769
01:46:56.840 --> 01:47:03.520
Jim Gaffigan, be Afraid We Don't Belong Here with catherineet

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01:47:04.039 --> 01:47:08.760
Keener and may Rudolph and Search Engines which in the

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01:47:08.920 --> 01:47:15.560
Dark Girls mostly likely with Christine Wig. The LCIFF is

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01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:19.520
now the largest student run film festival in the country,

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01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:24.479
Like proctately eighty to one hundred and MSU students in

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01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:29.880
the Created Media Institute and Created Media Technology Programs and

1775
01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:33.880
the Donna Anna Community College will work together putting on

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01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:38.239
this film festival. Sounds very entertaining.

1777
01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:43.479
Sounds amazing. I'll tell you that I've seen Michelle Hurd

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01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:46.560
on stage in a panel here in Portland at a

1779
01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:52.079
comic con, and if you put her in Gates McFadden

1780
01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:55.560
in the same panel. It would probably create some kind

1781
01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:59.159
of like nuclear chain reaction that would power the United States.

1782
01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:02.479
Because both of them are two of the most dynamic,

1783
01:48:02.920 --> 01:48:07.720
incredible women that I have ever seen on stage. Like Michelle,

1784
01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.800
Hurt does not mess around, She does not pull any punches.

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01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:16.840
She tells you exactly what she's thinking, and she's extremely

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01:48:18.359 --> 01:48:24.800
progressive in her vision for people and women in the

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01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:28.479
United States. So I just I love her so much. Yeah,

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01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:29.960
this is very exciting for me.

1789
01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:34.359
Well, wasn't she leading the rally of the troops with

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01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:38.800
the actors strike. She was run the front line, right

1791
01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:44.840
there in front, and I think Gates was a little younger,

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01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:46.680
she would have been up there hand to toe with

1793
01:48:46.800 --> 01:48:51.600
her doing it. I've seen I've seen Gates on stage

1794
01:48:51.800 --> 01:48:55.800
and who She's got a lot of opinions, and she's

1795
01:48:55.840 --> 01:48:59.159
gonna let you know, in fact, if you ever went

1796
01:48:59.319 --> 01:49:02.079
for Gates, Yeah, I'm gonna say with Gates if you

1797
01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:04.680
want to listen, to check out our podcast or her interviews.

1798
01:49:05.239 --> 01:49:07.479
She does a lot of fast interviews and they're not

1799
01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:14.680
related to Star Trek, but I will pass it on.

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01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:20.520
I think Eric wants to talk about Universal Studios.

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01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:27.039
I do Universal fan Fest nights to feature Quartz Cafe

1802
01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:32.359
and the ten Forward Bar. Fan Fast Nights is a

1803
01:49:32.720 --> 01:49:37.239
sort of mashup of Universal's popular Halloween Horror Nights with

1804
01:49:37.319 --> 01:49:41.560
a comic con experience which they say will quote take

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01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:45.760
fandom to a whole new level. The first event kicks

1806
01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:49.239
off on Friday, April twenty fifth, in just two weeks,

1807
01:49:49.840 --> 01:49:53.319
and continues with select nights through Sunday, May eighteenth, twenty

1808
01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:56.279
twenty five. The main Star Trek component for Fan Fast

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01:49:56.359 --> 01:50:00.600
Nights will be the brand new Red Alert experience, which

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01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:05.399
will quote boldly take guests on an immersive adventure aboard

1811
01:50:05.479 --> 01:50:08.920
the USS Enterprise NCC seventeen oh one D on a

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01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:14.640
mission to prevent an interstellar threat woo. The scripted walkthrough

1813
01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:18.079
experience includes costumed actors playing the parts of the crew,

1814
01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:22.960
special effects, and the actual USS Enterprise D bridge set

1815
01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:26.239
used for the third and final season of Picard. In

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01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:30.479
addition to the new experiences for each franchise, Fan Fest

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01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:35.199
Nights includes themed food and beverages designed to complement this

1818
01:50:35.319 --> 01:50:39.319
breakthrough event. The Star Trek culinary choices will be available

1819
01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:42.680
at two main locations. For eating like a Trekkie, you

1820
01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:47.840
can visit Quarks Cafe at Hollywood and Vine. Oh, Hollywood

1821
01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:52.319
and Dne excuse me. Here are the Trek food items

1822
01:50:52.399 --> 01:50:57.119
that they have created for the event. Klingon targ legs,

1823
01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:03.079
char suis honey poor wings served with kimchi fried rice,

1824
01:51:04.359 --> 01:51:10.640
but Jorin hasparrat, slow cooked spicy pork, gonjuang pickled vegetables

1825
01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:16.439
with serracha mayonnaise delicious. And Dorian red bat sandwich, which

1826
01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:20.039
is herb marinated chicken breast on a bow bun with garlic,

1827
01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:26.119
aoli char and charred red onion. Vulcan fritters, fried mushroom

1828
01:51:26.119 --> 01:51:31.399
fritters served with hummus and dusted with red spice vulcan logo.

1829
01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:32.199
I love it.

1830
01:51:33.199 --> 01:51:38.520
Triple Truffle Trio a trio of chocolate truffles topped with coconut. Yeah,

1831
01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:40.840
that sounds pretty good, David. I would give that a go.

1832
01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:46.359
Clingon Blood Wine a popular clingon wine and Dorian Ale.

1833
01:51:46.520 --> 01:51:51.880
This blue colored alcoholic beverage is made with gin, blue cracao, lemonade,

1834
01:51:52.119 --> 01:51:55.680
lemon slash, lime soda and garnished with blue vanilla cake

1835
01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:57.760
frosting and pop rocks.

1836
01:51:59.199 --> 01:51:59.800
I love it.

1837
01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:06.560
Polumctea with refreshing beverage features hibiscus iced tea, fresh raspberries

1838
01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:10.640
and garnished with mint sprig. That sounds conventional, But I'll

1839
01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:11.960
put a Vulcan theme on that.

1840
01:52:12.119 --> 01:52:12.640
Yeah, why not?

1841
01:52:13.239 --> 01:52:16.479
But jorin Ale a traditional Quark cocktail served with and

1842
01:52:16.640 --> 01:52:21.920
without alcohol. Canar a popular Cardassian liquor made with aged rum,

1843
01:52:22.039 --> 01:52:25.800
pomegranate juice, black cherry syrup, lemon juice, and soda. Water

1844
01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:29.119
That sounds much more accurate than the Canar wine we

1845
01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:34.800
tried romulan Ale. This drink features vodka, blue cracau, lemon juice,

1846
01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:40.720
simple syrup, lemon lime, soda, soda, and tea earl gray,

1847
01:52:41.760 --> 01:52:46.359
hot and cold. If you want to tour your culinary

1848
01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:49.439
options at fan Fest Nights, you can purchase the universal

1849
01:52:49.560 --> 01:52:53.199
fan Fest Nights Dining Past, inviting guests to sample a

1850
01:52:53.319 --> 01:52:57.159
variety of foods and beverages throughout the event for a

1851
01:52:57.319 --> 01:53:00.520
single price. The dining pass will be available for purchase

1852
01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:04.840
at two kiosks located within the theme park, as well

1853
01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:10.439
as participating theme park restaurants. These, you guys, are the

1854
01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:13.279
articles that make me kind of wish just a little

1855
01:53:13.319 --> 01:53:15.760
bit that I lived in the Los Angeles area. I mean,

1856
01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:17.840
I still wouldn't want to deal with the traffic. But man,

1857
01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:21.039
wouldn't it be fun to go to this? It might

1858
01:53:21.079 --> 01:53:23.920
even be worth a flight. I'm not sure, but I

1859
01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:27.640
love calling it. I love culinary experiences. Charles, You're only

1860
01:53:27.760 --> 01:53:29.039
like a four hour drive away.

1861
01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:33.560
I'm not gonna make it, but I know a friend

1862
01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:36.760
who is, and I know a couple of people on YouTube.

1863
01:53:36.800 --> 01:53:38.880
I think that are going to record it. But you

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want top that, try Star Trek and Back the Future

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on the same night. I think they're also doing a

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D and D theme. They're doing a D and D

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I think theme in there too, but three big ips.

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It's like, Oh, that's gonna be huge event. I might

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share with you guys if I find some good link

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to people who do some good videoing of the event.

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You totally should. This sounds like a really big deal

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and I am all about the culinary experiences. And I

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wish I could have one of each of these drinks.

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I'd probably be messed up at the end of the night,

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but they all sound delicious.

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As I've seen with viewing from Disneyland, you gotta hit

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the food because some of these food festivals just are incredible.

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That's what I'm saying. Man, Like, what else is there

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to life than good food and drink and friends and

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all that sort of Yeah, anyway, sounds amazing, all right, Jim,

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take it away, buddy, your.

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Next Thank you, Eric, And I'm kind of hungry now.

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I want to have some of that triple parthay, Yeah, you.

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Get a dollar off of the hairy ones.

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Would just shave them down, just like a scallop.

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I was gonna say, I wish they had triple scallops.

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That would be hilarious.

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All right, guys, I got the last story of the night.

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Star Trek Icon lives on with Michelle Nichols Space Camp

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to inspire young women to aim for the stars. Star

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Trek Royalty. Nachelle Nichols passed away in twenty twenty two,

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but her legacy endures, most well known for her memorable

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portrayal of Communications Officer Lieutenant Nyota Oahora in Star Trek,

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the original series and six final Frontier feature films. Michelle

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Nichols has now inspired a new educational endeavor, fueled to

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blast off next year via the Nachelle Nichols Foundation. The

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Nichelle Nickels Space Camp launches from January seventeenth to nineteenth,

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twenty twenty six at the US Space and Rocket Center

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in Huntsville, Alabama, with its upcoming class of students ready

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to take the brave step into the state beyond as

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preparation for a career as a future astronaut. Beginning in

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nineteen eighty two, this world renowned program has a ignited

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the imaginations and dreams of children by duplicating aspect of

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NASA's rigorous astronaut training regime. By valuing leadership and teamwork,

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Prospective Star Voyagers heralding from all fifty states and territories

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and one hundred and fifty countries, will gather the mirror

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of the optimistic ideals of Star Trek's United Federation of Planets.

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These adventurous students will participate in a wide range of

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team building lessons and activities, including simulated interplanetary life on Mars,

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model rocketry, cube seat construction, Vulcan philosophy, three D printing,

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space scoot testing, artificial gravity experiences, and dizzying spin in

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the multi axis trainer quote. We are honored to work

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with the Michelle Nichols Foundation to continue providing our world

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class Space Camp program to a diverse community of young

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people people States Doctor Kimberly Robinson, CEO and executive producer

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of the US Space and Rocket Center. Together we can

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aspire a spirit of discovery to change lives and change

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the world for the better through the passion of exploration.

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And that, my friends, wraps up tonight's podcast. I want

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to take this opportunity to say thank you for Eric

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for hanging out and Trek talking with us tonight.

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Thank you so much, Eric, totally you guys, that was

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super fun.

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And I want to say thank you to Paul for

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hanging out with us as well. Thank you, Paul, been

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on man good times. And thank you to Charles as well.

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Thank you Charles.

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Thank you Jim.

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Always lots of fun.

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And thank you to David for the awesome slide shows

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and the poll videos. Thank you David.

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And that has been a lot of fun.

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And next week we're going to be watching right here

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live the Neutral Zone Studios fan film Star Child, and

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then we're going to be talking about it. So as

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I said, if you're a fan of fan film, you

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definitely want to be here. I'm your most excellent host,

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Uncle Jim saying thank you and live long and prosper.

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Hailing frequencies are closed. And remember Star Trek fans are

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the best fans. You better believe that. Stay safe and

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be good to each other. Good Night, everybody, good night.

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Live long and prosper off.

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I say I'm ready for departure, sir. Some problem, right,

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I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way of missions

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will go, said, Oh, no, number one. I'm sure most

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will be much more interesting.

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Let's see what's on there.