Dec. 14, 2024

Episode 614- Star Trek: Lower Decks "FULLY DILATED" review

Episode 614- Star Trek: Lower Decks "FULLY DILATED" review

In this episode of Trek Talk, Uncle Jim and his Treksperts discuss the latest happenings in the Star Trek universe, including episode reviews, fan interactions, and exciting changes coming to the podcast. In this episode, the hosts discuss the latest...

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In this episode of Trek Talk, Uncle Jim and his Treksperts discuss the latest happenings in the Star Trek universe, including episode reviews, fan interactions, and exciting changes coming to the podcast. In this episode, the hosts discuss the latest installment of Star Trek: Lower Decks, focusing on character development, humor, and the quality of writing. They explore how the episode pays homage to previous Star Trek themes while engaging fans through clever references. The conversation highlights the dynamics between characters and their growth, culminating in a collective reflection on the episode's overall impact and ratings. In this segment, the hosts celebrate the birthdays of notable Star Trek actors, reflect on their contributions to the franchise, and discuss upcoming Star Trek news, including the anticipated Section 31 movie featuring Michelle Yeoh. They express a mix of nostalgia and excitement while addressing concerns about the direction of the franchise, and share their initial reactions to the trailer, expressing both excitement and concern about the direction of the franchise. They discuss the potential for future projects and the importance of maintaining the essence of Star Trek. The conversation also touches on the recognition of Star Trek shows at the Saturn Awards and the future of their podcast.

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Now talk about the series. Cows of the show. Well,

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good evening, Trekkies and Trekkers around the globe. It It's Thursday,

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December twelfth, twenty twenty four, and this is episode six

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hundred and fourteenth Truk Talking. God, I love that theme song.

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You guys love that theme song as much as I do.

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It's a dance to it.

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It's a banger.

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Is an awesome song.

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That really is an awesome We should excellent idea. We

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should for sure. So I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim,

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And this is Trek Talking. Thank you for tuning in.

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We have a great show planning for you guys tonight

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we're going to be talking about Star Trek Lower Decks

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fully Dilated, which which is a really great episode. We're

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also going to find out what William Shatner really thought

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about Star Trek the Motion picture when Shatner says what.

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We also have a section thirty one comic book and

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a section thirty one trailer to talk about and start news,

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as well as our Star Trek birthdays, our fan shout outs,

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and of course our scores for the episode. So we've

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got a lot going on. Don't go away. But before

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we get too far, I want to introduce to you

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guys my awesome, my incredible Truck's first and we'll start

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out with Eric. Eric is out in Portland. How you

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doing tonight, Eric?

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I am doing pretty good, you guys. You know, I

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just had a chance, finally today to watch this episode.

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I am very much looking forward to talking about it

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and very much looking forward to like where Trek talking

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is going right now. Man, We've got all kinds of

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changes happening. We got riverside, we got possible video, possible

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Patreon upgrade, we got all kinds of possible stuff. So

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we'll have to see what's going on here. But I'm

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really excited.

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Yeah, trek Talk and I think twenty twenty five is

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going to be the year of trek Talk and we've

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got a lot of pokers in the fire, don't forget that.

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On the seventeenth we're going to have Tim Russ on

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the show. Mister Tubac himself is going to be here

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to take your questions, and there's going to be a

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lot of stuff going on, so you definitely want to

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be be a friend of trek Talking in twenty twenty five.

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We also have with us in Portland. It's got to

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be the water our very own toy guy. Paul, Welcome

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to the show. How are you doing tonight, Paul.

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Hey, uncle Jim, I'm good. I'm good, brother, I'm good.

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Things are in the mad chaos of the holidays right,

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A lot going on, absolutely, and if you are one

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of those people who has, you know, family that has

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a birthday during this particular time of the year, it

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gets doubly crazy with all the orchestrations and whatnot. But

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you know, I think I gotta just say we have

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never sounded better. I mean some of the audio that

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we used to listen to the shows and how our

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MIC's used to be was just like, oh, Mike, I

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mean the theme song at the beginning has never sounded clear,

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it never sounded better. I mean, the audio upgrade is great.

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And so I think the lesson we should all take

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from this is sometimes when bad stuff happens, you're like, oh, oh,

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change scary, you know, O, you know, our house is

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on fire, we're losing our whatever, right, not necessarily always

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just leading to a bad outcome. Sometimes unexpected change could

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be really good. Because I think this is infinitely better

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than where we were hanging their hat before. So yeah,

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I echo your sentiments of optimism.

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I agree. I think that blog talk radio failing was

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a great thing for us because now we have this

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video feed, we have full HD, We're going to be

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doing some great stuff. And speaking of birthdays, Paul, December nineteenth,

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which is next Thursday, is my wife's birthday. Then we

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have Christmas, and then at three fourteen on the thirty first,

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we have my daughter's birthday, she'll be turning thirty, and

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then we have New Year's all in that same week

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for me. So I know what you're talking about about

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a busy December.

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Oh yeah, for sure, I hear you. It's good to

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be it is good.

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It's very good. And also from Portland. He's getting in

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on that Portland water, is my mister Scottie the man himself. David,

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how you doing.

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David drinking out Poling water? Pretty good, it's pretty good.

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Give me your he's got cotton. Yeah, so David, you

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guys are going to see some pretty amazing stuff tonight.

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This is our test run and David and I have

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been working on this show all week for you guys,

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so I hope you enjoy it.

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And last but not least, from Vegas. And remember what

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happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. We have Charles.

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It's not so great at the Lake Water.

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Yes, there's new news on Patreon, giving Uncle Jim a

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little bit of a break, and I'm taking over with

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a brand new pond. We get some new memberships and

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get some new people joining in and all kinds of

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fun stuff hoping to share.

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With it, and I do probase my members.

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We won't let you miss Tekita night, definitely not.

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I don't want to miss Tequita.

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Yes, that's right. Our uh yeah, we're we're still having

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problems with Facebook, guys. Their AI is still out of whack.

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The trek Talking page is up. You can go to it,

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but I can't post on it. It's really weird. But

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eventually we'll get that figured out and we'll get our

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Patreon information out there to you guys. So we're looking

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forward to that. Speaking of what's going on with trek Talking,

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you can go to trek Talking dot com, which I

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highly recommend anyways, And when you go there, in the

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bottom right hand corner, there's a little blue talkback mic.

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And why am I telling you about this because on

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the seventeenth we're gonna have Tim Ross with us on

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the show. If you would like to ask him a question,

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go to trek Talking dot com, click on that little

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mic and record your question for Tim Russ. We will

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play your question for him live on the air and

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have him answer it on the seventeenth. So please head

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over to trek Talking dot com and leave your questions

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for Tim Ross. Oh well, not only Tim. You can

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go there and tell us how great we are, tell

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us what you thought about an episode, tell us you

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love the theme song, tell us what a great job

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David did with the presentation we're about to see anything.

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The fact is, we love to hear from you guys,

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because we're fans like you and we love to hear

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from our fans. All right, Yeah, what else do I

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gotta say?

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Yeah?

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So, when our Facebook page is back up and running,

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you can go there and tell us where you're listening from.

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You will see pinned to the top of the page

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they live long and prosper saying hey, dudes, where are

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you from. Eventually that will be back up and that's

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where we get our fans shout outs from. So Eric,

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would you like to get us started with our fans

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shout outs this week?

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Oh?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Jim.

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First, I'd like to say hello and thank you so

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much for supporting our podcast to Chavasti Bebegua, a top

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contributor from London, UK, a city that I have been

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to a couple of times and I love very much.

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And I've taken my picture next to that really cool

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doctor who booth next to that tube station. Yeah that's me, Chavasti.

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Thank you so much for supporting our podcast. Really appreciate it.

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Also saying hello this week to Billy Seru from Guaya Kill, Ecuador.

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You've been to Ecuador, right, Paul? Isn't that true? Or

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have you been Costa Rica. Okay, so not quite Ecuador,

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but Ecuador looks amazing as well. And Billy sends us

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a cool live long and prosper symbol and we say

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peace and long life back to you. Brother. Also saying

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hello this week to Stay Mansfield from Edinburgh, Scotland. Thank

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you so much for supporting our podcast. We have a

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ton of support in the UK, including Scotland. Thank you

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so much for saying hello to us, Live long and

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prosper to you. And last but not least on my list,

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I would like to say hello to Anisha Hussein from

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Trinidad and Tobago, sending us the double flag there from

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your amazing country. Thank you so much, Anishe for supporting

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our podcast, and we really appreciate you, especially given how

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far your electrons had to travel just to get to

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me right now to be able to read him on

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the air. It's pretty amazing, So thank you so much, Charles.

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I want to pass this shout out megasphone.

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With reading to another Eric in Houston, Texas, Eric Anderson,

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Welcome Eric, Florida.

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We're gonna welcome Brian Ferry. You know which part of Florida,

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but I hope it's.

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Nice and war. Welcome from Wisconsin. Pamela Dicker. We caam

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welcome Pamela from Mexico. Winter see see winters great green.

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What do you think, oh David, or do you want.

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To go a spurs? I'll go green on the tour.

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I want to say thank you for listening and supporting

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us to Linda Barn from Minnesota. She's giving us a

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little live long and prosper sign. And next thanks for

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supporting us and listening to us. Uh uh Lippert from Texas,

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Thank you very much. And next time my list is

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Mark Sorry, uh coolest, I think it's how you pronounce

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it from New Mexico, USA. And last on my list

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is w Cleve buck Doll from Salt Lake City, Utah. Paul,

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who's on your list?

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All kinds of folks, my friend all over the globe.

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First of all, we're gonna say hello to our good

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pal Sharon.

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Maltby.

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Sorry, that's a very fine font there. I'm gonna work

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on that. Sharon Maltby from Nottingham, England. Good old Sherwood,

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Sherwood forest. Denizen's there the land of robin Hood, where

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the rich are robbed and their wealth redistributed. Kind of

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liking that idea, Sharon.

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Love Robin hood when I was a little yeah, I

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mean too.

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A big Arrow Flynn fan. So I'm gonna have to

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go over there to the old home soil and see

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what the all the real McCoy looks like. So great

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to know that you're out there listening to us and

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being a fan of all things track Sharon and saying hello.

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Also to Marla's Eloisa Gloria Kong living in Switzerland currently

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but originally from Hey, Charles, Las Vegas. How about that, right?

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So you two Charles could leave the desert lake water

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blight behind you and moved to Switzerland like Marley's did.

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So you know she's an exemplar role model. You could

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get out of there, buddy. So who knows she's paving

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the way. And we were just talking about Costa Rica

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a couple of minutes ago, and here is a fan

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from that very land, that magical, enchanted realm. Fernando Chada

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is from Costa Rica, a phenomenal place to hang one's

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hat and visit. And if you've never been there, oh

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my god, visit it's great. Highly recommend it. And lastly,

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for me, I'm keeping the Continental flair. Here we have

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Vaklov Dolonski from Chechia with f proudly unfurled. So club

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great to hear from you and from all of our

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friends on all corners of the globe. Let's see how

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many crazy denizens that Uncle Jim is going to greet today.

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Yeah. First of all, we'd like to say thank you

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to Eric Anderson, who's listening to us right now in Houston, Texas.

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Hopefully Houston doesn't have a problem. We also want to

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say thank you to James Carrol Diamore from Michigan, USA,

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and Cindy Luke Carter from Jersey City represent dog represent

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and last but not least, Joshua Lee Rushing from Los Angeles, California.

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If you guys would like to hear yourselves mentioned on

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Yeah, it's another December birthday, but she's not too demanding,

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all right, guys. So now it's time for our Star

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LiNpO Lino Lin you know me like no Wind, what

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you thought about the show?

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To share your.

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listen worldwide.

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So tell us just what you think. Get together, we

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will alter Canara and Robulin A.

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some of that kling On blood wine myself. But uh, yeah,

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what do you think about that song? That sounds sounds

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pretty good and full stare yo, doesn't it?

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So on our Facebook page, I always throw out some poles,

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and because I've been locked off the Facebook page for

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which I guess is fine. Old poles are better than

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no poles, I guess. So, Eric, what was our first

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poll question?

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Honestly, Jim, this is one of my favorite pool questions

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You've ever asked. What do you like best on Riker?

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No Beard, Beard, wild Beard or gray Beard? And this

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is a fantastic question because there really is an evolution

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of Riker and a couple of one shots like wild

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So I just I just love this question so much. Okay,

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so here we go.

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This is what the fans have have said. Coming in

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in fourth place. Out of those, we have wild Beard

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with only four percent of the vote, which I think

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what like maybe thirty seconds of that episode, maybe a

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Riker won't go back. But but what we saw was

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So four percent of our listeners like wild first season. No,

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you're you are mute to Jim. Oh no, he's talking

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to the dogs. See this is why video gets us

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into trouble.

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I got to not be like a professional.

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I'll get used to it.

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from first season, of course, with eight percent of the vote,

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which is you know, nice clean shaven Riker. It's actually

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the one that I think Deanna prefers, if I remember correctly,

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although that may be untrue by the time we get

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to pocard. So eight percent of our listeners like no

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Beard Riker. Five percent of our listeners like Graybeard Riker

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from the Picard era, you know, distinguished riker. And you know,

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we're not talking about fake gray Beard Riker from back

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in the nineties. We're talking about real grape like after

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Jonathan Fraake's actually aged. What did he look like? And

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you know, I mean, he's a nice looking man. And

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twenty five percent of our listeners agree that he's their

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favorite Riker. But by far everybody's favorite is season two

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through season seven Riker, regular beard Riker with that suave look,

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that amazing hair, those blue eyes. I mean, who doesn't

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love this guy? Who doesn't love sixty three percent? You

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know beard, regular bearded Riker like sixty three percent of

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our listeners. So pretty good poll, pretty good spread. I

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think there I got with my.

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With gray Beard.

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I think he looks very I like how Rikers kept

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himself upper cards.

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look down.

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Nice kind I kind of liked the gray Beard Riker too,

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if I remember correctly. Isn't he the one that told

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uh commodore o that that he would love to kick

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some romulant ass. Wasn't that the Great beard Riker?

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His thousand copies of the same ship. Yeah, the ning Tower,

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Nick Singhau or something I can't remember. Zing hey, right, yeah,

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I thought he was pretty cool. Cool, he was pretty cool,

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Well, moving on to our next pole. I guess this

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is I would imagine, probably one of Jim's favorite polls

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that he's ever asked on.

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Is that true?

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Jim's Yeah, it's right there.

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Yeah, yeah, that's right there. So which one of these

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three klingon to her masters is your favorite? Kang cor

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or Coloth? And uh, let's see drum roll please, Uh

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of course we have coming in third place, we have

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Kang Classic Kang always just a little bit behind the scenes,

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but an important contributor to the whole Harrormaster thing. No question.

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Percent of our listeners chose Coloth as their favorite, which

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I think is pretty cool. He's got like a ship

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named after him and a bunch of other cool stuff

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that he's done. But you know the one that everybody

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really in the end completely loves through and through with

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their heart I think is Core and that's probably uh,

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you know, he's a leader. He's got his own house

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as far as I know, House of Core, right, and

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sixty two percent of our listeners chose him as their

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favorite klingon the Horror Master, so they're.

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Having I think they all have the name named after

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himself to the House of Kane and coloth I believe it.

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Well, oh yeah, you're probably right.

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And do you know why Core is everyone's favorite, right.

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Because he hangs out with with the Dobble girls.

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Yeah, he's just looking at that face, right, look at

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that guy, right, he's just out of control. Right, he's

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the most he's the most unhinged and emotional and demonstrative

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of all of them. Right, it's like thanks kind of

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like become like you know, Clint Eastwood, and you know,

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like what what was the El Camino? Right, get off

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my own kind of like you know, turning into a

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grumple still skin right, And and Colath is I don't

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know what happened to him because it's like he used

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to be like, you know, kind of cool and really like,

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you know, ridiculously up to no good in original series, right,

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very much up to No Good and it's like he's

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almost become legit. He seems sort of like, you know,

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he sort of comes across like he's lost his stones

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or something. I don't know, he's all he's been neutered.

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It feels like neutered Colath, right. But Core is just

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getting wilder the older he gets. He's just like he's

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ready to just you know, you know, pick up a

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letter opener and gouge your eyeballs out with minutes. So

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that's it's great. And like you said, he's partying up

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a storm. He's just like he is not going quietly

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into the good night. So I think people like his energy.

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Yep. And I was telling Paul and are in chat there.

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I was watching Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea,

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the original nineteen sixty one movie, and I see Michael

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and Sara Kang in the movie and I was like, wow,

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that's Kang from Star Trek. I was like wow. And

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he walks around carrying a dog through the submarine, through

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the whole episodes, through the whole movie. But at any rate,

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I did see him in another movie, which I thought

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was pretty cool. But yeah, I do like Core. And

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not only that. Core was in the most episodes as well,

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so he got more more exposure than the other Klingons perhaps,

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and and Core played Boltar in Battlestar Galactica too, so

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he's got to get some points for that.

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Do we know how the discovery cor is, Like, is

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it the same Core.

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That he's from the House of Corn?

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That?

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Yes, that was that was Uh that.

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Was Core, but uh it was Core named court court

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Cha or he had like another Yeah, it was Decor

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or court Cha something.

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Relative like Don Junior, right, yeah, lesser lesser than you.

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Know, Yeah, he was a Core, but not the Core.

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He had a similar attitude, you know, he had that

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kind of like.

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But we don't know. We don't know if if Kor

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actually died when he took on that Dominion fleet, he

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could have survived.

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Could be I mean, Lord knows that ship has won

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me enough games in Star Trek Attackling he.

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Could still be out there.

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I can attach to that, all right.

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So now we're gonna now we're gonna go to our

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cadet training and.

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Low your shields and your ships.

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We will add.

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Logical distinctive storwn.

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Your culture will adapt to serve us resistance.

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Fut So, because I don't have the cadet training I

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had to play that. So this is the part of

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the show where Charles shares with us really fun, insightful

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tidbits about this week's episode.

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So Charles to take it away.

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I'm trying to get a new cadet training audio and

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I got some ideas. Okay, several definitely one shots on

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this episode. Let's start off with one of the obvious

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ones that we all enjoy. DNNG The Inner Light Season five,

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episode five.

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All these episode really needs an explanation.

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I think everybody remember dnng's Time zero season five episode

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twenty six and season six episode one. Oh Data without

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the Data missing, the rest of his body, just.

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Coming Data stuck in time and CNG thoes thine own self.

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Season seven, episode sixteen, Data revisiting a pre war society.

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It's the first time.

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Data spent time my another planet with.

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A strange group.

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Voyager Gravity season five.

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That's of episode thirteen, Mariner references Dileminar three, Garrison two

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bout Kraftland on a desert planet for several months.

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Ah.

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Nice classic.

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You knows City on the Edge of Forever Season one,

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episode twenty eight. Take me the fact that Spock's having

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to use random parts to create tech just Atinua and

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then episode.

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We had some fun talking about on this show. One

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Time Enterprise Carbon.

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Creek Season two, episode two, You've got Vulcan stuck on Earth,

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another group stuck on a foreign planet, and heaven tout

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a way from there. I think Eric would love to

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talk about what the fans thought when he turns his mike.

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On absolutely on uh yeah, and on our Facebook page

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when it gets going, I ask you guys to score

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the episode one to ten and then we talk about

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what you guys thought. So Eric, you want to take

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it away.

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I absolutely do. And Charles, you know that was just

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my dramatic pause before the real presentation. So Corinthia Klein,

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a top contributor to our Facebook page, said, excellent episode

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all around. I liked in particular that Mariner has had

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a chance to calm down and mature this season, but

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that her essence in the new place was still making

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buddies in the brig Packy Anderson, another top contributor, says,

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look at to Lynd's massive melons, I mean the grapes

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out line a line like I mean, We're going to

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talk a lot about this episode but that line was

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just one of many real singers. Leah Marie Longbreak, a

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top contributor, said, I can't believe there wasn't a nice

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melon's joke. Oh wait, there was a massive melon's joke,

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but it was Yeah, there was Ellen smock. To me,

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this is one of the most star trek episodes of

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the series. It's really about characters. The comedy is secondary.

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Joseph Finn, a top contributor, said, get a job, Snell.

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Michael O'Sullivan, a top contributor, said my favorite episode so

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far this season. Brian Bunch said, as soon as our

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sneaky local spoke, I rolled my eyes and laughter. I

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know that voice, and only good things shall follow. Mac Davidson,

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I love episodes with the three main girls here. They

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are usually the best for me. And Spencer Cooley, a

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top contributor, said, the jokes landed better than the character

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stuff this episode. Honestly, I feel like the Mariner subplot

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would have made more sense for somebody else. Snell was

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a lot of fun, though I still feel good about

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the season, but this isn't one of my favorite episodes.

476
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.599
We have a fan score this week everyone of please

477
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.440
eight point two eight point two and eight point two

478
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.240
ain't nothing to scoff at, but it's not at the

479
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.079
top of our list of episodes, so kind of interesting.

480
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.279
Yeah we should. We should talk about.

481
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.559
That, Yeah we should. What do you guys think about

482
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.920
the slide show that David put together for us? Isn't

483
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:35.000
that cool? It kind of the mood? Yeah, I think

484
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.359
I kind of like it. David is demand, thanks, David

485
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.279
really is he is demand. That's cool and the best

486
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.559
is yet to come because he's got some more magic

487
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.000
up asleep. He's my miracle worker, yo.

488
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.799
Dog, I promise I won't disappear, all right?

489
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:51.799
So who wants to start us off? Charles? You want

490
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:55.599
to get us started with? Fully dilated or not? Maybe

491
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.640
Charles is muted. Charles is muted. He's talking, but we

492
00:26:58.720 --> 00:26:59.480
cannot hear him.

493
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:04.640
We have a lot of notes on this one because

494
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:10.000
I didn't get a chance to see it till definitely

495
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:11.680
gave me flavors off.

496
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.480
Early carbon free.

497
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:14.319
Definitely.

498
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.359
Though there does seem to like getting herself in trouble.

499
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:23.680
I do like the competition between our two gals. There's

500
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.400
going to be a new leads a head of the news,

501
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.319
head of the science department, and I like how each

502
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.599
of them is trying to go their own way and

503
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.559
not realizing that Tiend's so worried about trying to do

504
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.960
her best and Delenne just doing whatever she can do,

505
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:45.799
which I think to Len, I think reminds me a

506
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:49.960
little bit of spot Tilly remind me of just.

507
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:53.680
Trying to find all the time she could to try

508
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.440
reproducing for City on the Edge of Forever with them too.

509
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:02.880
Yeah, made a note on my comments like, oh time

510
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.920
Data's head. It's like as I go through and realizing,

511
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.160
oh yeah, time zero was the episode I was looking at.

512
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:12.519
But that was a good We always talked about the

513
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:18.200
great episode of Best of Both Worlds going from is

514
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:19.279
Righter going to die?

515
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.640
I mean not record you card going to die from that?

516
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.160
And yet we kind of wonder with Time.

517
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:29.519
Zero, what's gonna happen with Data?

518
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:37.400
It's origin of dining at How'd I deal with Time?

519
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.480
The one thing that kind of got me in this

520
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:47.039
episode wasn't the gals what's the boy? It's like, Okay,

521
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.240
you're not supposed to have in the transporter room and

522
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:51.960
they approved, why you don't need.

523
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.279
You don't bring through the transporter room.

524
00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:58.519
And this attempt to clean up that that the pal

525
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.160
just kind of brands worthy a little bit. But okay,

526
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.160
that's kidding just way, and.

527
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.039
Just find some towels and cleaned up.

528
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.720
Why are we stripping our uniform off to clean the

529
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:12.720
table when you probably.

530
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.160
Go and find a replica replicator?

531
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:16.119
Bring it, Make us a.

532
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.000
Couple of towels.

533
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.559
They go on water planets, they're going to use towels

534
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:20.359
to dry themself.

535
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:24.680
Anyway, Charles, there are no replicators in the transport.

536
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:33.480
One by in the original series, Eric, was it really Yeah?

537
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.559
He makes like a cup of soup for the guy

538
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.880
for the security guard in season.

539
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.839
One while he's in the transporter base.

540
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:46.000
Soup, right, and well there you go, and the guys like,

541
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:54.640
no ship, What the hell have you been? Wo? Ts, Yeah,

542
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.960
you've forgotten your history, man, I have Wow.

543
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.200
Wow, I can tell you that our twelve episodes of

544
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:06.799
Gus that I know really really really well in there somewhere.

545
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:12.640
But I like data kind of guide Chilly and I

546
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:13.599
like how he kind of.

547
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:16.279
Helped streaming out and kind of giving her a good

548
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:18.480
recommendation to what direction to go with.

549
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:25.119
And it's a trope. But I truly kind of liked Mariner.

550
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.000
And the Fleet because I thought that was a fabulous

551
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:32.559
dedication too. In your Life that's a special episode. I

552
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.160
think that was a nice dedication for the episode.

553
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.160
And by the ways, I'm talking about this.

554
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:44.000
When we talk about the Patreon page last week and

555
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.920
this week's Cadet Cadet.

556
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.119
Posts will be on that page.

557
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:50.920
So if you want to go back and see the

558
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.960
stuff I talked about, go visit because I'm want to

559
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:54.920
try getting many.

560
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.559
Of these new ones out there. You can see what

561
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:02.720
we're talking about. As for the episode with the guys,

562
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:05.519
I'm messing this one.

563
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:12.839
Very respectable, very respectable. Well. I love this episode. Not

564
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.599
as much as the Klingon episode we saw a couple

565
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.559
of weeks ago, obviously, but this episode I think was

566
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.200
was pure star Trek. It was. It was really really good,

567
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.359
really fun, really engaging. I love the whole Mariner and

568
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.039
the jail thing, making buddies with her my friends in jail.

569
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.640
You know, she comes black, She's like, yo, dogs, what's

570
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:36.039
going on? You know? Did you miss me? And then

571
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.079
she has to go and learn how to play a flute.

572
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.720
You know, it was just it was very well done.

573
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.599
She chooses to do that, right, she's got the time,

574
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.000
and so she's like, what would I do? And in

575
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.279
her mind's eyes, she does what what I would do,

576
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.359
which is what would the card do?

577
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:53.799
Yees, yeah, it was it was great. It was It

578
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.160
was very well played. It wasn't over the top. It

579
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.799
wasn't like throwing references out there just for the fact

580
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.160
of doing it. It was actually part of the story

581
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:04.480
which I really liked. And I love the to Len

582
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.680
to Len and the melons, and it was just hilarious.

583
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.599
And then she makes hair tonic and everybody in the

584
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:15.119
town has long flowing air and it was just it

585
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.599
was a really good episode. And Schnell of course gets

586
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.079
his at the end and they say, get a job,

587
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.160
you drunk bum uh you know. That was all great.

588
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.839
Oh and of course let's not forget about to Anna.

589
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:29.640
When she's up there the doctor, she says, she says, uh,

590
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.519
you know, I'm a doctor. I'm not What the hell

591
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.240
was it? What did she say, Eric, I'm a doctor,

592
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:34.640
not an.

593
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.039
Fing She said, whatever, the.

594
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.440
Yes, that's it, that's if you ask me.

595
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:45.200
So.

596
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.640
Yeah, I love this episode. All the way around the

597
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.160
Purple Enterprise. Data's head was purple. He had to get

598
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.799
back to Jordi. The whole Data's head thing I thought

599
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.920
was great to paying paying homage to Time's arrow so

600
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.599
that we know in this alternate Purple universe that Data

601
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.319
does lose his head as well. So yeah, overall, I

602
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.119
really enjoyed this episode. I really really did much better

603
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.960
than the zombies on the Star bas episode though that

604
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.240
we had to endure last week. So I'm right there

605
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.039
with Charles. I'm gonna go in an eight point eight

606
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.319
on this one. I really really enjoyed it and I

607
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:22.519
thought it was a lot of fun.

608
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.119
So how about you, David, Yeah, this presentation really actually

609
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.920
brings back a lot of memories. I'm glad we're kind

610
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.880
of doing it because I'd kind of forgotten about the

611
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.920
Purple Enterprise and I'm like, oh, yeah that happened.

612
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:38.200
Because engineer did a spectacular job putting this show together.

613
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.720
By the way, tape was huge.

614
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:51.079
But yeah, so this episode I really liked. I do

615
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:55.440
agree with Charles that it did have a very clubbing

616
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.839
Creek vibe to it. And there was another episode that

617
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.920
you guys mentioned for during a Cadect training about where

618
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:07.480
Data lutes his head. Yeah. There, you know, it does

619
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:09.280
have a little bit of a trope in a sense,

620
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.639
but at the same time. It's just like it was

621
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:15.199
really well written, really well put together, and the pating

622
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.280
just went very very good.

623
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:19.320
I liked it.

624
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:25.119
I I can't remember exactly what my favorite part was

625
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.679
in this episode, but I do remember that the melons

626
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:29.400
was really funny.

627
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:30.800
Oh yeah, and also.

628
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.119
Mariner was trying to act exactly like Captain Piccard what

629
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:36.880
would he do and all this, and it turned out

630
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:38.280
the flute she made was soap.

631
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:40.679
Somehome made it out of soap.

632
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.119
And I'm like, okay, because it's a prison fleet, man,

633
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.440
you ain't got there.

634
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.960
You get away from you with that flute. But yeah,

635
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:52.320
it was.

636
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:53.639
It was really, really, really good.

637
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.239
I'm gonna give this episode a nine.

638
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:55.760
All right.

639
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:57.960
Well that that brings us over to Paul Well, I

640
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.159
gotta concur fellas I thought this was. It's a terrific episode.

641
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.039
I really did. I enjoyed it very very much. I

642
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:10.559
think that, you know, the whole I just loved the

643
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.920
whole idea of riffing on the whole bit of you know,

644
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:16.760
going to a pre war civilization you know that we've

645
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.079
seen before, right and not having we want to make

646
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:22.760
sure we don't corrupt them with our you know, superior technology,

647
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.360
who Watches the Watchers kind of thing, right, and of

648
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.559
course things you know, break down from there because they're

649
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.920
all pre industrial and whatnot.

650
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:32.480
But it was great.

651
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:37.920
I mean, the the Brent Spiner cameo was just priceless, right,

652
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.199
It wasn't just a knockoff. I mean, I thought they

653
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:42.559
used him to the lovely effect and it was a

654
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:49.039
really nice, really nice I thought, respectful and you know, purposeful.

655
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.400
You know, it's not just a lot of times the show,

656
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.119
we get down on it because they just do you know,

657
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:55.599
shtick cameos that don't really have a point. I thought

658
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.360
this was really nice use of him, right, was was

659
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.760
well written and everything. I loved a lot of the

660
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.239
gags that were in there, and of course, no surprise,

661
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.159
a lot of them come from Mariner, right, you know,

662
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.519
when she's complaining think about being thrown in jail. There's

663
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:15.280
some ETO level bullshit going all the way back to

664
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.519
like Justice in season one. I thought that was great,

665
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:24.719
you know, and the oh you are fully functional of

666
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:27.880
you know, we're an a Greek situation, right, All of

667
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:32.400
that stuff was just you know, really really uh really funny,

668
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.400
and a lot a lot of the references and the

669
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.039
riffs to uh to other episodes, it didn't feel like

670
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:42.280
it was just kind of thrown in there is it

671
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.039
so often can feel for me, I mean, and I

672
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.199
felt like this one was done. The writing was just

673
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:46.880
so much better.

674
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:47.519
Uh.

675
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.880
I gotta agree with Charles though on the whole, Like

676
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.199
you know, looking off the transporter console ad nauseum, that

677
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.480
was just like endlessly tedious. For me, I just got

678
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.360
no where with that at all. I was just like,

679
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:08.559
come on, Fellas, enough is enough. Funny title, you know,

680
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:11.360
fully dilated, you got a love that, that's that's great

681
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.360
and uh, you know, and for me, it's like if

682
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:18.159
there's a trend, uh for me, I think that uh

683
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:22.639
to Linn episodes rock that seems to be uh my,

684
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.440
you know, uh takeaway from here, Right, every episode where

685
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.639
she's had a little bit more prominent role in the

686
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.519
last couple of seasons tend to be better episodes, right,

687
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:33.800
because she has a little bit of character growth, right.

688
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:37.239
She's character and like this in this episode, she was

689
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:41.119
like zing zing zing right, like all those dry zingers,

690
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:44.719
Like that's she's just kind of starting to develop that

691
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.119
and I think it's from hanging out with the other four, right.

692
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.719
Yeah, and she's trying to do these humanistic things to

693
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:54.960
create rapport with people, the things to to help you know,

694
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.920
make connection, and and and she's it. It doesn't seem

695
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:03.639
to always work, but you know her the sort of

696
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:07.719
like is it is it not competitiveness with Tendy. I

697
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.400
just love that, right because it's like Tendy is so

698
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:15.480
neurotic about it, right, and and in her way, you know,

699
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.079
to Len's neurotic about just trying to do a good job, right,

700
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.800
And I just thought that was a nice counterpoint. So uh,

701
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.840
you know, could have done without the extended time dilation

702
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.719
transporter console no sense that was just you know, not

703
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.559
so great for me. But but I generally thought it

704
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.519
was very clever, you know, really nicely done. If like

705
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.519
like like Jim said, this felt like Star Trekka, and

706
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.400
this felt like good Star Trek. It didn't feel like

707
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:47.039
you know, twenty something's trying to you know, sorry agism,

708
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.000
trying to recapture what they thought Star Trek was. But

709
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.800
but no, this felt like legit Star Trek was felt

710
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.519
he was written from people who'd been you know, long

711
00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:00.440
term fans who get it right, and so I I

712
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:03.599
enjoyed it very much. The Purple Filter on everything is

713
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.719
kind of like blowing my mind. Like everything is sort

714
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.760
of a little purple. I'm like, did I get dosed?

715
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.320
And I don't realize it? What happened to me? It's

716
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.599
very purple? So she put me in the eye. You know,

717
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.400
it's just all yeah.

718
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.000
I mean, I'm sure in their society, like when you

719
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.880
horn somebody like you're it's like slapping them with a gauntlet, right,

720
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:28.880
you're like ready to go.

721
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:29.719
Yeah.

722
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.119
I thought it was a standout episode. So it really

723
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:36.400
was a very very good work all around. The I

724
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.000
really have nothing, uh you know, all that negative to

725
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:45.480
say about it. So despite the nonsensical shenanigans in the

726
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.519
transporter room, I'm still feeling like this just because of

727
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.599
the references were so purposeful and they weren't just thrown off.

728
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:57.239
I thought it was just done in a smart way.

729
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.159
I think this one deserves a nine. I really do.

730
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.440
I think it was, you know, just an example of like,

731
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:05.679
you know, yeah, it's comedy, right, but but it's also

732
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.519
you know, done with uh you know, some taste and

733
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.079
some and some lack of taste when necessary, right, you know,

734
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:19.519
good Mariner, you know, doing Mariner. So happy to give

735
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:21.000
this one a nine. Thought it was really fun.

736
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.559
And who knew to Lynn knew how to juggle, she didn't.

737
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:26.480
Know, she didn't even know.

738
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:33.519
It's just good popping off. That was great. So I

739
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:35.360
just thought it was really fun and it just felt.

740
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.639
What I like about this show is when it when

741
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.559
it really is I think in the sweet spot and

742
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:44.239
this is you know, it's a scripted show, right, this

743
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.239
is hard to pull off, but but it's I think

744
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.199
for me, this is when comedy feels like comedy, right,

745
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.559
is uh, it's when the episodes feel spontaneous.

746
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:54.800
Right.

747
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.159
Sometimes they feel like overly, like Okay, we've like orchestrated

748
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.920
all of these callouts and cameos and references, and it

749
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:06.960
just ends up becoming just a real slog and it's

750
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.480
it's more like, look what I look? How smart I am?

751
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.920
I know this as opposed to the spontaneity of the unexpected,

752
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.400
which is what humor is, right, the unexpected, and it

753
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:20.039
feels like fresh and in the moment, and so you laugh,

754
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.639
and I think that's that's the hallmarker with an episode.

755
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.760
So good stuff more like this, please, well.

756
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:27.440
You know you know what I like about it, Paul,

757
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.239
is whenever you watch Star Trek well, not just Star Trek.

758
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.800
You could be watching a horror movie and they do

759
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.599
the stupidest thing and you're like, haven't you ever seen

760
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.559
Nightmare on Elm Street. You don't do that same think

761
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:42.079
in Star Trek. You know, Mariner referencing other shows. I mean,

762
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.159
you would have to think that they've read the logs

763
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.519
and they know about the ETO, and they know about

764
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.519
Carbon Creek and they know about these things. Because that's

765
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.280
one thing Star Trek never does is reference itself, which

766
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.599
I would think they would do more frequently. And lower

767
00:41:56.679 --> 00:42:00.719
Decks pulled it off perfect in this episode, be perfect

768
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:01.920
and hilarious moment.

769
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.960
I don't know. I was just like this is you know,

770
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.440
sometimes there's little things that seems so perfluous. I just

771
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.440
thought it was hilarious, like when you first realize, Okay,

772
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.960
they're gonna be here for like a long haul, like

773
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.400
months or whatever. And Mary was like flopped down on

774
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.519
the floor with their feet up on the couch and

775
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:18.920
I don't know if you noticed this, but they like

776
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:23.960
animated like dust just like fall, you know, coming through

777
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.440
like the sunbeam of the window above her right, Just

778
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:31.480
a little thing, but you know, and it wasn't distracting.

779
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:34.199
It was kind of a nice with all the weird purple,

780
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.800
kind of a cool, surreal intent. So I was just

781
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.519
like somebody had that. I go, oh, no, animes of dust.

782
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.679
Well I'm at it, and it was just hilarious. So

783
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:46.000
I just thought it was really you know, uh, you know,

784
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.000
and nothing just drug on, right, nothing really drug on.

785
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.239
It was fresh and lively, so really really fun. It

786
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:53.760
was a pleasure to watch this one.

787
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:55.119
There was a good one.

788
00:42:57.960 --> 00:42:59.840
There is a lot of purple. I've ben't been real

789
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:03.159
I looking at the presentation, I'm like, I never noticed

790
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.000
that before. There was a whole lot of purple.

791
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.360
I guess this whole you know, it's the leeching out

792
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:11.559
from the other dimension or something. Yeah, it's a lot. Man,

793
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:15.559
I'm gonna have to deep purple, purpleze myself purple.

794
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:18.760
All right, Eric, Well you got the caboose on this one.

795
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.719
If there's anything left to mention, uh well, I.

796
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.440
Mean there's all you know. I mean, I can talk

797
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.880
about anything, but I think the Paul I was like

798
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.559
he was at the end kind of summing up your

799
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.559
thoughts about it. And the thing that I wrote at

800
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.480
the top of my review was effortless comedy. Like, to me,

801
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:39.400
this just felt effortless. Like I was watching the episode,

802
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.400
the comedy flowed. I wasn't like it. Nothing came out

803
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.639
of left field. There wasn't anything that felt like it

804
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:51.079
was forced. I mean, to me, this was my absolute

805
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.800
favorite episode of the season. And I love that Klingon

806
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:55.800
episode for sure. There's no question that that was a

807
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.519
great episode. This one was my favorite because I felt

808
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.239
like the writing was the best we've probably seen so

809
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:08.159
far this season. You know, there were not only the well, okay,

810
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:10.599
so Lower Decks is always great at using the references,

811
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.400
but one of you guys said something about the way

812
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.239
in which they were used, and that was That was

813
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:16.679
the thing that I kind of took away from this

814
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:19.559
was that all of the references that were used were

815
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.920
used in sort of like meaningful ways or also effortless

816
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.440
ways that kind of like fit into the plot and.

817
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:28.199
Didn't.

818
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.800
It wasn't just for the sake of the reference. It

819
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.079
was because, oh, Mariner has knowledge that Picard had this

820
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.719
experience in his life, and so therefore it informs her

821
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.719
decisions about what she's gonna do or you know, those

822
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:42.559
sort of connections. So I just really really liked that

823
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.280
but the comedy man, like, right from the get go,

824
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:52.440
I think like when tannas like genetically transforming them, you know,

825
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:56.039
into the alien species, and she's talking to Tilinn about

826
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:59.760
her advanced scent receptors, She's like you want me to.

827
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.280
It's like yeah, Len's like yeah, that'd be a good

828
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:09.039
idea actually, which, of course, you know, references back to

829
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.280
the like smell things that we've seen about bulcans in

830
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:13.519
the past, which I disagree.

831
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.039
But there's there's a lot of kind of like subtle

832
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.320
stuff that goes on in the in the background, and

833
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:21.840
like Paul was just talking about the dust on the couch.

834
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.079
I know that not Alli y'all are a fan of

835
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.400
the whole beard thing, but like now that Rutherford has

836
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.760
a beard growing, and they had that kind of moment

837
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:33.280
in this one where they talked about how good Rutherford's

838
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:38.239
beard was coming in and how you know. I think

839
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.840
Boimler said something about like, I'm not sure mine's the same.

840
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:46.079
And Rutherford because he's Rutherford, because he is infinitely supportive,

841
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.199
because he is a good friend. He's like, no, no,

842
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.039
it's you know, it's gonna be okay.

843
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:54.920
Maybe it'll be okay. Man, don't worry about it.

844
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.880
Yeah, So I just love that support from Rutherford. He's

845
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.639
just like he's gonna row the most amazing beard, right.

846
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.360
That thing is going to be thick and lush and beautiful,

847
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.079
and he's gonna put beard oil in it. It's just

848
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.599
going to be like amazing, and and poor Boimler is

849
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:10.880
still going to be stuck with this like scruff on

850
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.840
his cheeks. So I don't know, anyway, I love that

851
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.199
kind of connection of friends through through beards. You know,

852
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.480
I'm a guy who's pretty much worn facial hair like

853
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:24.119
as soon as I could grow it up until now

854
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.719
in various configurations, So I understand connecting over facial hair.

855
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:31.159
Were saying we should have a rout the Fird's beard

856
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:36.119
pole next time, Yeah, maybe or as beard pole.

857
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:36.800
Yeah.

858
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:44.400
So, you know, best jokes the subtle things that are

859
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.880
kind of like questions that we've always wondered. Like there

860
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:51.559
was that one line in this one. Yeah, Data is

861
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.559
talking about where they find him or how they dig

862
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:57.039
him up in Time's Arrow, and he's something like, uh,

863
00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:59.679
you know Picard myself and some guy in a great

864
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:04.280
jump suit dug me with all waded, Like who's the

865
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:09.519
guy in the great jumpsuit, right, asking questions that we've

866
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.119
that we've always asked. There was one thing that came

867
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:13.920
out of this episode that I didn't remember, and you

868
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.960
guys will probably remember and can remind me, But Delynn

869
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:20.480
was banished to Starfleet. Can you remind me?

870
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:21.320
Yeah? I was.

871
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.440
I was worrying about that too. I don't remember that.

872
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:27.000
Yes, in the episode, in the episode Lee George where

873
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.119
they had to kling on ship, the Vulcan ship and

874
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.880
the board ship. Remember she she was fooling around with

875
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:37.320
Justice shield modulation and her commander said, don't do that,

876
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:38.800
and she did it anyways, and.

877
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:42.400
They said, because you're overly emotional, right, Yeah.

878
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.280
So they kicked her off the ship and she ended

879
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:45.239
up on the critos.

880
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.440
Okay, I had forgotten that that actually that that actually happened.

881
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.480
So so she's she officially Starfleet. Did she get adopted

882
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:54.159
in the star Fleet?

883
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:57.840
Is because she got promoted to A Yeah, I would

884
00:47:57.880 --> 00:47:58.920
say so, because she's now.

885
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.920
Communicator stuff And does she have to pip.

886
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:05.239
Yips?

887
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.840
I think it's like the office Exchange program.

888
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.719
Oh yeah, okay, it might be yeah, could be Okay.

889
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:16.519
I think it was Paul who said something about Mariner

890
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:18.400
being kind of like the Star. I mean, this was

891
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:22.280
absolutely a great I mean just Mariner's just great overall,

892
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.159
but like this one in particular I thought was really

893
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:29.079
great for Mariner. And the moment where she starts fangirling

894
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:32.320
big time over Data I thought was really special too.

895
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:34.320
I mean, I I feel like if I was to

896
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:39.559
meet you know, Data's head, you know, one hundred years

897
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:41.679
after what I how far is this after TG? This

898
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:44.840
is like this is probably only like ten or fifteen

899
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.360
years after anyway, as number of years after TG, I

900
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:53.400
would still be super excited to you know, to meet

901
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.719
him and to be able to talk to him. Tendy

902
00:48:56.039 --> 00:49:00.480
powering him up with a crank is amazing. That whole

903
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.320
reference back to Guardian Forever. I thought it was great.

904
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.000
So yeah, I mean, the jokes were great, The writing

905
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.320
was really really good. You know, I can't disagree with

906
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:12.199
the kind of like b story of the two guys

907
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:16.639
in the transporter room. Sure, you know, a little bit

908
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.199
of whimsy and like ridiculousness thrown in there. The good

909
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.199
news is that I don't think they spent two well

910
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:26.559
maybe they spent fifteen percent too much time there. They

911
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.760
didn't they didn't like spend extensive time watching them wipe

912
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:31.719
the screen, right, they kind of bounce back there for

913
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:33.400
like a minute or two and then and then go

914
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:34.320
back to the main story.

915
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:36.920
So you just know though, that in that writer's room

916
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.800
on this show, right, because you know, you know, there's

917
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:44.920
one person you know, we're well, you know, it's just

918
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.760
like there, you know, I mean, one or two writers

919
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:50.719
get credit, but there's a writer's room. Everybody yells and

920
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.679
gets it there. And you know, in this particular show,

921
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:56.880
somebody in that writer's room loves like vomit comedy, right,

922
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:01.079
because there's something gross happening in prettically every episode, right,

923
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.199
they just cannot resist it. It's just like, you know,

924
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.559
it's just like you know, they'll be mapping out the

925
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:08.880
show and then you know there's gonna be that one guy,

926
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.320
whoever it is, right, It just like nothing gross is happening, right,

927
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.000
they have to like, you know, somebody has to get

928
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:18.880
something shoved up their butt or something, right, you know. Yeah,

929
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.480
so in this case, it was licking the transporter, you know.

930
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:22.159
Yeah.

931
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.880
Yeah, now so there it is the other thing I

932
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.960
like about what to just presentation reminded me of which

933
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:29.639
everybody had long, beautiful hair.

934
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.599
From from Lens Melons.

935
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:37.400
Well, so, yeah, I, like I said, this is my

936
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.159
favorite episode of the season. It's not a perfect ten,

937
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:41.960
but I'm going to give it a nine point five.

938
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.079
I just told you this. I'm gonna watch this episode

939
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:50.000
multiple multiple times, probably find new ways to laugh at

940
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.559
it every time, and it just mixes like perfect sweetness

941
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:57.679
and character development and comedy and just all sorts of

942
00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:59.679
things together. So yeah, nine point five from me.

943
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.119
Well, Eric, I got to jump in and tell you

944
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:04.800
an Uncle Jim's story, because what would the podcast be

945
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:06.280
without an Uncle Jim's story.

946
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.159
This is one of the best parts of the podcast, right,

947
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:09.800
So everybody get around.

948
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:12.360
Yeah, I got around the campfire, guys, the old guy

949
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:13.039
is gonna talk.

950
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.360
So I was at a convention.

951
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:25.119
So in front of Ours got a job writing on

952
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:28.400
Star Trek the Next Generation in nineteen ninety one and

953
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.639
invited Karen and I out to Paramount to watch them

954
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:35.519
film an episode. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you

955
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.280
look at it, it happened to be the same time

956
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:41.800
that they were filming the top secret wharf scene from

957
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.719
Star Trek six, so the set was closed because they

958
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:48.000
didn't want anybody to know that. Michael Dorn was doing Wharf,

959
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:49.679
so we didn't get to go on the set, so

960
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.039
we were disappointed. So we're hanging out in the Star

961
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:57.400
Trek and the Paramount Commissary and who who walks in?

962
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:03.760
Now you gotta remember walked in Data Jordy and Riker.

963
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.119
Now when I say Data, Jeordi and Riker, I'm not

964
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.119
talking about the I'm talking about the actual characters. They

965
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:12.639
were in their full garb. Data was all gold. They

966
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.519
were in their uniforms and they came walking in and

967
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.800
I'm just sitting there at my wife like, holy shit,

968
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:21.079
look who walked in here? And we were trying to

969
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.719
be cool because my friend that got the job said,

970
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:25.960
if security knows that you're a Star Trek fan, they'll

971
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.719
throw you out, so you gotta be cool. So I

972
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:33.159
was like biting my tongue with coolness and just watching

973
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.880
these and I'll tell you something else. These guys are

974
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.719
the funniest. They were ragging on each other and just

975
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.679
they were such I was I wish it was I

976
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.760
wish I had a digital camera on my phone like

977
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:48.840
I do now because it would have been all over YouTube.

978
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.000
But so I know what you're talking about when you

979
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.199
say if you met data because I did, and it

980
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.000
was cool. It was awesome to see them in their

981
00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:00.639
full Star Trek garb, you know, and not at a convention,

982
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.719
so that was pretty cool. So, uh, Charles, what is

983
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:08.400
the overall fans score versus the truck Spurts score for

984
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:12.079
Star Trek lower decks fully dilated and.

985
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:17.920
You're muted by the way, That was eight point two.

986
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.639
And gave it a nine point oh two, which were

987
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:24.280
around to a nine point Oh.

988
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:28.239
Wow, wow, that's a solid score. And what did you

989
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.440
guys think about David? Did you like David's slide show

990
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:32.480
that he put together for us?

991
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:36.719
Oh? Yeah, yeah, it really helps. You know, we're talking

992
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.719
about the episode and there's images of the episode, I mean,

993
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:44.199
and nicely animated, sir, I gotta say, very well done.

994
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:48.039
So and uh, you know, sharp images which is great,

995
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:52.000
not you know, blurry lore as they were well done.

996
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.039
Yeah, he's my Scottie. I gotta yeah.

997
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:58.280
They gave me so much, giving me so much to

998
00:53:58.360 --> 00:53:59.480
talk about later just.

999
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.719
Look, I know, or bring stuff back as you're watching.

1000
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:05.119
Is this so you guys, I think we're going to

1001
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:09.639
continue to do this from now on? What do you think? Yeah? Okay,

1002
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.599
so yeah, I think we'll keep it all right. Good job, David,

1003
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.960
good job, all right. So now this is the part

1004
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.679
of the show where we do our Star Trek birthdays

1005
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:24.760
and you know what that means. No Wharf says that

1006
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.000
every week, but we don't care. So this is the

1007
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:28.280
part of the show where we get to have a

1008
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.800
lot of fun and go back and revisit all of

1009
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.000
Star Trek with our Star Trek birthdays. And we always

1010
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.159
start off our Star Trek Birthday sadly enough, with those

1011
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:39.719
members the Star Trek family who are no longer with us,

1012
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:41.599
and for that we turned to.

1013
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.599
Eric, Yeah, Jim. This week we're going to remember seven

1014
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:47.440
members of our Star Trek community who have gone before us.

1015
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.960
The first is actor Ted Knight. Ted Knight voiced the

1016
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:54.920
part of Carter Winston in the TAS first season episode

1017
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:59.480
The Survivor. However, he did not receive any screen credit

1018
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.679
for that episode. He is best known for playing the

1019
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.800
buffoonish newscaster Ted Benkster on the nineteen seventy through nineteen

1020
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:11.519
seventy seven CBS series The Mary Tyler Moore Show. He

1021
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.880
also starred in the nineteen eighties series Too Close for Comfort,

1022
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.679
and made appearances in myriad television series throughout the seventies

1023
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.000
and eighties, including he was in Caddyshack.

1024
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.280
Actually, yes, taddy Shack one of the best movies ever.

1025
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:27.840
It is one of the best movies ever. Yeah, and

1026
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:30.400
it was cool to see him in that. I remember

1027
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:33.280
when it came out and hey, so yeah, Happy Birthday

1028
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.639
to Ted Knight are Carter Winston from the animated series

1029
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:41.519
Happy Birthday as well to Vlaura Nolan. That was, of course,

1030
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:45.000
was the stage name of Volura Baum, the former or

1031
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:48.719
the actress who played Darris in the TOS second season

1032
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:53.360
episode Patterns of Force. In addition to star treg Nolan

1033
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:57.119
was seen on such television shows as The Rifleman, Wagon

1034
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.800
train Man from Uncles sort of like that, a lot

1035
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:04.000
of those shows from back in that era. She also

1036
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.840
had a small part in the first two of William

1037
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:11.239
Asher's popular beach movies, Beach Party from nineteen sixty three

1038
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:15.039
and Muscle Beach Party from nineteen sixty four. She left

1039
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.960
Los Angeles and the acting business all together in nineteen

1040
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:22.239
sixty eight, soon after finishing Patterns of Fourth so that

1041
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:25.320
was kind of her last little acting for a So

1042
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:28.960
Laura Noland would have had a birthday December eighth, nineteen

1043
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:33.079
forty one. Happy birthday, Velaura. Happy birthday as well to

1044
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.800
Cleig W. Hoyt, the American actor who played Pitcairn in

1045
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.280
the TOS first Silot episode The Cage, which, of course

1046
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:43.039
we didn't see until later. He made his feature film

1047
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.559
debut with an uncredited work in the movie Mohawk. Also

1048
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:49.239
appeared in the nineteen fifty seven biopic The True Story

1049
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:53.360
of Jesse James. A few other film credits here and there.

1050
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.400
He was in al Capone in nineteen fifty nine, et cetera.

1051
00:56:56.519 --> 00:57:01.760
So Cleig W. Hoyt birthday, December tenth, nineteen ten. Unfortunately

1052
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:04.039
we lost him when he was only fifty six years old.

1053
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:09.719
Happy birthday, Clegg. Happy birthday to Joseph Bernard, the actor

1054
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:13.400
who appeared as Dark in the Los second season episode

1055
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:16.840
Wolf in the Fold. Bernard also made guest appearances on

1056
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.840
such television series as The Twilight Zone, The Untouchables, and

1057
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:25.320
Mission Impossible. He taught acting at the Lee Strasburg Theater

1058
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:29.000
Institute in Hollywood, and later opened his own acting school,

1059
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:33.400
the Joseph Bernard Acting School, in Las Vegas. So there

1060
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.119
you go, Charles. Joseph Bernard would have had a birthday,

1061
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:39.880
December twelfth, born in nineteen twenty three. We lost him

1062
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:41.239
back in two thousand and six at the age of

1063
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:45.000
eighty two years old. Happy birthday, Joseph, Happy birthday as

1064
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:48.400
well too. Well, three more people who I think are

1065
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.559
really heavy hitters. Not that everybody's not a heavy hitter,

1066
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:53.800
but gosh, these three people in particular, I think there's

1067
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:55.800
just a lot of Star Trek connection and a lot

1068
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.920
of resonance that these people bring to the franchise and

1069
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:04.360
the fans. Alexander Sandy Courage Junior probably heard of him,

1070
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:11.400
the Academy Award nominated, Emmy Award winning composer, arranger, conductor,

1071
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:15.920
and orchestrator who wrote several scores for Star Trek the

1072
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:21.199
original series. Among yeah, the main title theme. I know,

1073
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.800
you guys know that one because it's the thing that

1074
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:25.639
comes to our head when we think of Star Trek.

1075
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:25.880
Right.

1076
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:30.159
He even made the woosh sound heard, you know, made

1077
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:33.360
by the Enterprise in the opening screen credits to that

1078
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.280
to that show, which I think is just of course.

1079
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:43.159
So you know, it was Jerry Goldsmith who recommended Sandy

1080
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:47.440
Courage to Gene Roddenberry originally Roddenberry Aske Oldsmith to score

1081
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:50.840
the Cage, but he actually had to decline due to

1082
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:54.239
some other commitments that he had, and he suggested Courage,

1083
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:57.239
who was mostly just an arranger at the time and

1084
00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:59.800
not a composer, but he just had a lot of

1085
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:03.719
confidence in him and so Roddenberry gave him the job.

1086
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.320
Later on, they rehired him to score the second pilot

1087
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:11.719
where No Man Has Gone Before. He also contributed scores

1088
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:16.039
for the first to the first season episodes The Man

1089
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:21.119
Trap and The Naked Time and some cues left in

1090
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:24.039
MUDs Women along the Way there. But during this time,

1091
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:29.199
Courage discovered that producer Gene Roddenberry actually wrote unused lyrics

1092
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:31.800
to his Star Trek theme in order to get half

1093
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:35.920
of the royalties for each episode or other usage of

1094
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:40.119
the main theme. This resulted in a long feud between

1095
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:42.800
the two men, and despite efforts by Robert Justman to

1096
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:47.960
rehire him, Courage refused to work on the series any further.

1097
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:53.079
And I've got this quote from Sadie Courage. He said,

1098
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:55.639
what happened with Gene? And I was I got a

1099
00:59:55.719 --> 01:00:00.320
phone call once. It was Jeane's lawyer. He said, calling

1100
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.360
you to tell you that since you signed a piece

1101
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.599
of paperback there saying that if Gene never wrote a

1102
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.119
lyric to your theme, he would split your royalties on

1103
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.760
the theme. Gene and I weren't enemies in any sort

1104
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:14.039
of way. It was just one of those things. I

1105
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:17.599
think it was the lawyer probably who put him up

1106
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:19.840
to doing it that way. And it's a shame because actually,

1107
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:23.320
if he'd written a decent lyric, we have both made

1108
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:25.280
a lot more money. Oh, he was upset that he

1109
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:27.599
wrote the lyric. I mean he was upset that he

1110
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:31.159
wrote a crappy lyric. So you know, I don't blame you, Sandy.

1111
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:36.679
But Sandy Courage born in December tenth, nineteen nineteen. We

1112
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.159
lost him back in two thousand and eight and certainly

1113
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:41.800
one of the biggest stamps on all of Star Trek,

1114
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:46.800
just being so integral to the mood of the show

1115
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:48.360
and to what we think of when we think of

1116
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:53.320
Star Trek. So happy birthday to see any Courage. I'm

1117
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:57.239
surprised that Jim let me say this one, but it's

1118
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.639
probably because it's a remembrance. So thank you, Jim. Happy

1119
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:04.519
birthday as well to actor John Polakos. He's, of course

1120
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:09.280
the Canadian actor who played Corps the first major Klingon

1121
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:12.800
ever seen on Star Trek, and then reprised that role

1122
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:17.199
from the original series into Deep Space nine. He was

1123
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:20.400
his first season episode, Errand of Mercy was the first

1124
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.280
time that we saw him, and then later, of course

1125
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.000
we see him in the Trouble with Triples and Day

1126
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:29.719
of the Dove. No sorry, he was to return in

1127
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.280
both of those episodes, but they actually couldn't like make

1128
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:34.760
their schedules work out, so we didn't get him in those,

1129
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:37.719
But regardless, he was able to reprise his role in

1130
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.400
three more times on Star Trek Deep Space nine. In

1131
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:45.119
a career that spanned over five decades, Colocast performed in

1132
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:49.920
nearly one hundred film and television projects. His appearances core

1133
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:53.880
in Deep Space nine's seventh season episode once More Into

1134
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:57.320
the Breach in nineteen ninety eight, was among his last

1135
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:02.239
acting roles star Galactive fans you were talking about this gym.

1136
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.000
Of course, fans of this series remember Colicos as the

1137
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:09.760
traitorous Count Baltar who sold out humanity to the evil Cylons.

1138
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:13.679
But you know, I admit that the first time I

1139
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:18.639
ever saw John Colicos was in the soap operas. My

1140
01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:21.039
mom used to watch these in the afternoon, and I

1141
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.679
would sit and watch them with her. And soap opera

1142
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:27.719
fans from the eighties may recall him as Mekos Casidine

1143
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:31.800
with wife Helena, portrayed by Constance Towers. He was a

1144
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:36.679
madman bent on deestroying general hospitals, city of Poor Charles,

1145
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:39.400
and I have to say I do remember those episodes.

1146
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:43.239
I just can't help it. So John Colicos, one of

1147
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.280
the most influential Klingons of all time. Happy birthday to him.

1148
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.000
Born December tenth, nineteen twenty eight, lost back in the

1149
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.119
year two thousand and last, but not least, We're saying

1150
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.360
happy Birthday this week to Terry Garr, the actress who

1151
01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:59.679
played ROBERTA. Lincoln in the TOS second season episode as

1152
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:03.719
Signed and Earth. She earned an Academy Award nomination in

1153
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:07.280
nineteen eighty three for her supporting role in Tutsie, and

1154
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:10.320
is also well known for her roles for her role

1155
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:14.199
in Young Frankenstein from nineteen seventy four. She was born

1156
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:17.599
in Lakewood, Ohio, but was raised in North Hollywood, and

1157
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:21.440
her father, Eddie Gar, was a comedic actor. Her mother,

1158
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:24.920
Phyllis Lindar, worked as a costumer in films, and so

1159
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.199
that's kind of how she got into the movie business

1160
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:30.280
and her youth. Gar was trained in ballet and other

1161
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:33.559
forms of dance, and made her initial film appearance as

1162
01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:39.199
a background dancer in beach party films featuring oohs, often

1163
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:41.480
accompanied by her best friend and roommate at the time,

1164
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:45.440
Carrie Foster. She appeared uncredited in no less than six

1165
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:49.480
Elvis movies from nineteen sixty three to nineteen sixty seven.

1166
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:52.719
So happy birthday and lots of love going out to

1167
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:59.039
Terry Garr lost just this year, October twenty ninth, she

1168
01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:01.679
has missed. I would have liked to have met her,

1169
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:02.440
of course.

1170
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:09.079
Don't don't forget Close Encounters of the Third, which also

1171
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:12.039
has some Star Trek models hanging up in his living room.

1172
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:14.960
If you caught them really quick and you got young

1173
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:20.440
Frankenstein right, I'll never forget that. She was incredible. Yeah,

1174
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:20.880
I got that.

1175
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:21.639
Yeah I said that.

1176
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:21.960
Yep.

1177
01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:22.800
Uh.

1178
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.199
So that that does it for our remembrances, the sweet guys.

1179
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:29.440
And so I'm going to pass my flaming birthday candle here.

1180
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:30.880
I got a list to go.

1181
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:34.880
So let's sorry about the Happy Birthday to Leon Russam

1182
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:41.199
Actors actor who played Commander in Chief and Star Trek

1183
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:48.039
The Undiscovered Country and by Side Wald Todman and nine

1184
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:57.519
Surgeon episode to Die. Birthday to Michael Marie Sharan also

1185
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:03.480
Breathe the also known as eight Arive and Star Trek

1186
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:08.320
Enterprises four season episode The Forge, Happy Bertie to George

1187
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:14.599
Dayla Penta Actu played Solace in Chartrek's Next Ourations first

1188
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:18.599
season episode The Arsal of Rita di Bertha Toby Hutt

1189
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:23.719
actress who voice Admiral Melillas and Star Trek Lower Deck

1190
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:26.079
se Lower Decks fifth.

1191
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:29.760
Season episode The Best Run Hotel.

1192
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:32.840
Thirty two.

1193
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:42.320
By Ulia Flanagan, an Irish actor who appeared as Juliana.

1194
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:46.119
Tayner, and Sir TRIX's Next Duration seven.

1195
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.559
Season episode Inheriton, Helena.

1196
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:55.719
Tandre and turkad Stage nine first season episode Decks and

1197
01:05:56.039 --> 01:06:00.760
the Lar in Star Trek Enterprises first season episode Falling Heavy.

1198
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:06.599
Birthdaye to Natalie mccoti, actor who played Lieutenant Gallo in

1199
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:11.639
the fifth season Stirk Trek Discovery A series Happy Birthday.

1200
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:16.800
At Darlen tar I just to play the tantrap in Sir.

1201
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:22.840
Trek Each State nine second season episode Armageddon Game.

1202
01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:27.599
Bi birthday to Claudia Jerk It's a Swiss Canadian actress who.

1203
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:32.559
Played Zakari and Sir Trek Discovery It's four season episode

1204
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:34.920
All in Last Time, My List.

1205
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:40.719
Happy Birthday to Melissa Roxburgh, the actress who played Cy

1206
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:46.840
and Shartrik Beyond I'm gonna plants flaming, but bring down

1207
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:48.039
handle over to Paul.

1208
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.360
Thank you, Garles, appreciate it, Sir. Let's give a big,

1209
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:55.000
resounding happy birthday to the lovely Terry Hatcher who we

1210
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:58.840
all know. Who is an actress who played BG Robinson

1211
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.199
in the Next Generation second season episode The Outrageous Okona,

1212
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.000
which has been getting a lot of reviewing lately thanks

1213
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:09.440
to that character's appearance on other arms of the franchise.

1214
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:14.920
Happy Birthday also to Rachel Entherill, actress who played Commander

1215
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:20.320
d None in Star Trek Discovery, and a very sentimental

1216
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:24.360
and heartfelt happy birthday goes out to a good friend

1217
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:29.079
of the show, Stacy Abrams, American politician from Georgia who

1218
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:32.039
made a guest appearance as President of the United Earth

1219
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:36.440
in Star Trek Discovery's fourteen episode Coming Home. That's like

1220
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:40.199
Emperor of the Known Universe in Dune, essentially, right, I

1221
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:45.159
mean the top banana, the whole Sunday and am I'm

1222
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.880
not mistaken? Didn't Stacy Abrams call into the show one

1223
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.119
time and just Y her fondits for the way we

1224
01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:53.920
have reverence for discovery that.

1225
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:56.639
I thought that was like just I was like, what

1226
01:07:57.079 --> 01:07:57.920
is happening right now?

1227
01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:00.760
Yeah, I'm just making sure because that's what I remember.

1228
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.719
But there you go. So happy birthday, Stacy Abrams. Don't

1229
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:09.920
give up, don't give up, don't don't surrender, keep keep

1230
01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:12.440
being who you are and uh and know that there's

1231
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:17.319
gratitude out there. Happy birthday to Catherine Black, actress who

1232
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:21.119
Played's mother in the Strange New World second season episode

1233
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:26.279
ad Astra per Aspera. So there we go, expanding the

1234
01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:30.680
Una Chinriley family, which, by the way, if you we're going.

1235
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:32.359
To review this one of these days, but if you

1236
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:37.439
are an Una Chinriley fan, the new book Star Trek

1237
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:42.840
Asylum is excellent and it is a Una story, So

1238
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:44.520
if you haven't had a chance to read it, I

1239
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.039
suggest reading it and hopefully in a month or two

1240
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:49.199
we'll find a time to do a book nook and

1241
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.479
we'll review that book. It's it's most excellent.

1242
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:53.560
Is it a comic book with pictures.

1243
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.039
Eric, this is one of them novels.

1244
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:03.159
Oh, I'll take a wow. I'm good at that book learning,

1245
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:04.439
but I'll try it for you.

1246
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:08.399
There's also a very excellent audiobook adaptation that I would recommend,

1247
01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:11.199
which only runs it's like eleven hours or something.

1248
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:13.119
I never listened to an audio book.

1249
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:15.439
I gotta be honest with Well, that's you know, Charles

1250
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:17.279
and all the Virtues.

1251
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:19.920
Yeah, yeah, I got to hear the voices in my head.

1252
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:22.159
Let's get together for a beer, and I gotta tell

1253
01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:23.800
you on your phone.

1254
01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:27.439
I've listened to one either, but I have to recommend

1255
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.840
Patrick Starts to make it so read by the man himself.

1256
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:33.319
I'll just read the book. I know i'd hear I

1257
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:34.840
know i'd hear him in my head if I read it.

1258
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:35.479
I know I would.

1259
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:35.680
Well.

1260
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:37.920
The other one that's really good is a Stitch in Time,

1261
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:41.199
read by Garrick himself. I mean, that's one of my

1262
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:41.720
favor Yeah.

1263
01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:43.399
I've been trying to pick that up. That's a hard

1264
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:44.000
book to find.

1265
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:45.920
It's a very difficulty.

1266
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:50.000
Audiobook is read by him, so high high secondary value.

1267
01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:51.720
I just like to seeing him on the shelf, right,

1268
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:56.039
you know what I'm saying, moving on with our birthday

1269
01:09:56.159 --> 01:10:00.600
cavalcade of nonsense, We're saying happy birthday to Hillary Shepherd,

1270
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:03.960
who played Hoya in the Deep Space nine fifth season

1271
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:06.960
episode of the Ship and later played Lauren in the

1272
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:11.000
sixth and seventh season episode Statistical Probabilities and Chrysalis. Happy

1273
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:14.520
birth goes out to Liam Hughes, actor who played the

1274
01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:18.960
young Spock in the Star Trek Discovery second season episodes

1275
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:25.640
brother Light and Shadows, and if memory serves so, a

1276
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:30.439
lot of Young Spock action there back in the early

1277
01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:35.119
seasons of Discovery, So I want to go back and

1278
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:39.239
watch those early seasons again, especially season one and season two.

1279
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.760
I think those were for me when I was the

1280
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:45.640
show was just really doing a lot of cool stuff,

1281
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:48.760
really enjoyed that a lot. Happy birthday is it today?

1282
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:53.439
It is today? Today is our good friend. Machen Ahmik's

1283
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:57.399
birthday December twelfth, actress who played the teenage form of

1284
01:10:57.439 --> 01:11:01.760
the being known as Anya in the Next Generation second

1285
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:07.000
season episode The Dove Fan. Though moving TV fans of

1286
01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:11.720
a certain vintage are going to recognize miss Amic from

1287
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:15.520
her work in the various iterations of the Twin Peaks franchise,

1288
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:19.119
amongst other works. She works a lot, and it's done

1289
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:22.840
a lot, but twin peaks, officionados tend to be long

1290
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:26.279
lived and keep track of all these, so a lot

1291
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:29.000
of stuff there, But that's definitely where she was really

1292
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:33.079
ubiquitous for a while, and super happy to be able

1293
01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:35.800
to wish a happy birthday to this last person on

1294
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:39.560
my list, maybe not quite yet a household name, but

1295
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:44.680
a household name in my household, the delightfully wonderful and

1296
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:50.960
talented Gabrielle Ruiz, whose birthday is also today. Happy birthday,

1297
01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:57.920
Gabrielle Ruiz. Why am I celebrating her so enthusiastically well,

1298
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:03.079
because she is the actress who courses tillin It's family program,

1299
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:07.680
be respectful to our lovely guests Uncle Jip, regardless of

1300
01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:11.359
their melons. But she's the one who voices to LN

1301
01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:14.960
and a lot of other anciliary characters when in need

1302
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:18.560
of a paycheck on lower decks. And as I said

1303
01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:22.359
earlier in the show, a tellin episode is a good episode.

1304
01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:24.600
I think pretty much that has been proven to be

1305
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:26.920
true for me in these last couple of seasons. Every

1306
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.720
time her character is on there and plays like a

1307
01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:32.159
substantial part of the story or the plot I just

1308
01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:35.159
feel she nails it and brings that the right vibe

1309
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:39.600
and kind of gets everybody else to kind of sing

1310
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:42.199
at her level, if you will, so, really big fan.

1311
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:50.159
I I know that supposedly this is the last Lower

1312
01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:52.319
Deck season, right, but I still have hoped that somehow

1313
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:54.039
somebody else will pick it up and do something with it.

1314
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:58.840
But I cannot be done with that character. I need

1315
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:02.600
no more of Lynn. We have seen in the past

1316
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:08.520
live action iterations of Star Trek Lower Deck characters appearing

1317
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:11.880
on strange New worlds. I don't know if we would

1318
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:14.560
see that again, but man, I'd love to see to

1319
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:18.399
Lynn do that and pull that off. And I think

1320
01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:20.840
that would be a really cool thing. So happy Birthday

1321
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:24.680
to all you December Maven's and mad Men, wherever you

1322
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:29.319
may be. I hope you're hoisting your favorite Syntha Hall

1323
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:33.520
or or regular hall and doing it up like you should.

1324
01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:38.199
And now I'm going to take this sharpened batleath from

1325
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:40.840
out between my butt cheeks and pass it over to

1326
01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.319
Uncle Jim. You're the one who just said family show.

1327
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:48.760
Yeah, I was about to say, everybody wants.

1328
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:53.079
To I'm trying to keep you on your toes, right

1329
01:13:53.239 --> 01:14:00.319
if the show become Eric, this show becomes predicted.

1330
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:04.319
Well we're sunk. Well the red one will obey all rules.

1331
01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:08.760
Oh wow, that's gonna short circuit everything. We got to

1332
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:10.600
keep them wondering what's going to happen this week? Oh

1333
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.079
my god, you hear what the guy said? Holy yeah, yeah,

1334
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:17.239
remember that night I lot up the gynecological chart during

1335
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:22.319
the episode in like late January of twenty five. I

1336
01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:25.600
remember that, and it was amazing. You start talking all

1337
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:29.560
about like, uh, doctor Crusher and the ghost candle. It

1338
01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:32.560
was crazy. I never knew that we'd ever ever have

1339
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:35.159
a show like that. So good stuff, all right, Uncle Jim,

1340
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:36.199
to batlet is yours?

1341
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:38.720
Well, you know when I go to conventions and I

1342
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.319
waved my batlets around, everybody wants to touch it. But

1343
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:43.119
I don't think they're don't want to touch it anymore.

1344
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:44.880
They know where it's been.

1345
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:47.960
There's not a lot of chairs here.

1346
01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:51.439
Eric got to touch it though.

1347
01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:55.199
I have Jim's batlet, and I'm not admit it.

1348
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:57.279
He did. I think we have a picture of you

1349
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:01.600
holding it, nonetheless, don't we subscribers.

1350
01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:11.000
Yeah, that's channel write that down up.

1351
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:19.079
Okay, Oh boy, well guys, Uh, I only have two birthdays,

1352
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:23.920
but I take the best because I can. So you know,

1353
01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:27.319
first of all, I want to say Happy birthday to

1354
01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:30.159
Rex Holeman. And you're saying, geez, uncle Jim, who the

1355
01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:33.239
hell is Rex Holman and why would you do his birthday? Well,

1356
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:36.359
I'm about to tell you because Rex Holman was in

1357
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:39.439
what I think is one of the best Star Trek movies.

1358
01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:43.119
And I'm not kidding. Yes, if you guys have ever

1359
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:46.760
listened to the podcast, uh, you know that I'm talking

1360
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:49.800
about Star Trek five The Final Frontier. I truly love

1361
01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:53.880
that movie. You know, we had the opportunity to talk

1362
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:57.800
to Cybach himself. It was great. And Rex Holman was

1363
01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:00.800
in Star Trek the Final Frontier. He play John, who

1364
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:04.880
was the hairless, toothless dude that shows up at the

1365
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:08.279
beginning of the movie who's drilling for holes in the sand.

1366
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:10.680
But I think most people would know him from his

1367
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:15.159
Star Trek the Original series third season episode Specter of

1368
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:18.960
the Gun where he plays Morgan or so, Happy birthday

1369
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:23.399
to Rec's Holman. And of course this is the coup

1370
01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:29.760
d'ta right here of Klingon's the one, the only, the man. Uh.

1371
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:33.039
The reason why I'm into Star Trek as much as

1372
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:35.680
I am because of him, and we want to say

1373
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:41.760
God blah and Happy birthday to Michael Dorn, mister Klingon himself.

1374
01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:43.760
And I don't need to tell you about him because

1375
01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:46.479
you already know who he is. But I remember watching

1376
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:51.119
TNG the very first episode, Encounter Farpoint, and when I

1377
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:54.000
saw a Klingon on the bridge of the Enterprise.

1378
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:54.560
That was it.

1379
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:58.479
I was sold. They had me at Klingon and uh,

1380
01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:01.560
that's all it took, you know. I was just hooked

1381
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:05.039
because here's the mortal enemies of the Federation and the

1382
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:07.279
dude is on the bridge of the flagship. I got

1383
01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:09.920
to get to know this guy and I fell in

1384
01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:12.479
love with it, and I've been a kling On waving

1385
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:16.560
my battlet around ever since that time. So happy birthday

1386
01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:18.600
to Michael Doran. And I do have to tell you

1387
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:21.720
Michael Doran's story. Of course, what would it be without

1388
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:25.640
Uncle Jim's long on the tooth stories. So I was

1389
01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:27.680
dressed up as Michael Doran at a Star Trek convention

1390
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:32.239
in Buffalo back in the early nineties, and this woman

1391
01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:36.560
was stalking stalking us and it was pretty scary. Actually,

1392
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:38.760
if we get on the elevator, She gets on the elevator,

1393
01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:40.520
We get off the elevator, she gets off the elevator.

1394
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:43.439
Finally she comes up, taps me on the shoulder and says,

1395
01:17:44.119 --> 01:17:47.439
I know who you are. You're that guy from Star Trek.

1396
01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:50.439
You're that Klingon guy. And I said, no, no, I'm not.

1397
01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:52.359
She says, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're that Wharf guy. My

1398
01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:55.640
husband loves you, and she has me sign a picture

1399
01:17:56.199 --> 01:18:00.399
for her husband to Bill Wharf. So I I've only

1400
01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:03.319
signed one autograph in my life, and it was that one.

1401
01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:05.720
And somewhere in Buffalo, New York, there's a dude named

1402
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:08.760
Bill with a picture of Wharf on the wall signed

1403
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:15.439
by me. Maybe when Trek Talking takes off and truly

1404
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:18.800
is international, more people will want my autographer. Right now,

1405
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:22.000
the lady Stalker from Buffalo is the only one who

1406
01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:26.920
asked me for an autograph. So there you have it.

1407
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:31.840
Happy birthday to Michael Dorn And without any further ado,

1408
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.520
you know what time it is now, that's right, it's

1409
01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:38.079
time for Star Trek News and Eric has our first story.

1410
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:41.720
This is my favorite segment of the news section, which,

1411
01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:45.279
of course, says Shatner says, because Shetner's always got something

1412
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:49.680
that he's got to say that you know, may come

1413
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:52.399
out of left field. You never know. Forty five years ago,

1414
01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:55.680
William Shatner was sure that Star Trek the Motion Picture

1415
01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:59.880
would fail. Star Trek has definitely lived long and prospered.

1416
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:03.520
Though the original series' late sixties run only lasted three

1417
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:06.560
seasons and was canceled due to low ratings, reruns when

1418
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:10.720
into syndication around the world, earning the show legions of

1419
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:14.880
fans who clamored for more, and on December seventh, nineteen

1420
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:18.920
seventy nine, they got Star Trek the Motion Picture, which

1421
01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:23.119
is now celebrating its forty fifth anniversary. The film marked

1422
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:26.279
the first of several big screen adventures for Captain Kirk's

1423
01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:28.640
Bock and the crew of the USS Enterprise, and despite

1424
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:31.359
a number of problems, including a script that was not

1425
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:36.399
completed until production was already well underway and mixed critical reviews,

1426
01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:40.239
when the film was released, it helped reinvigorate the franchise,

1427
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:43.520
leading to multiple sequels and spinoffs that have become a

1428
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:47.880
cultural phenomenon. When William Shatner attended the world premiere of

1429
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:51.119
the film, he was not exactly optimistic about its success,

1430
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:54.239
seeing the completed movie for the first time. Shatner was

1431
01:19:54.279 --> 01:19:57.560
struck by its slow pace and thought it marked the

1432
01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:02.159
end of the Star Trek journey. He famously remarked, well,

1433
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:06.039
that's it. We give it our best shot. It wasn't good,

1434
01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:10.600
and it will never happen again. He recalled his initial

1435
01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:13.960
reaction fifteen years later and added, shows.

1436
01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:14.359
You what I know.

1437
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:20.279
So you know, originally I didn't think it was going

1438
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:22.439
to go anywhere, but of course it has. And I

1439
01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:25.560
think now and like, it's my personal opinion that the

1440
01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:30.039
motion picture has achieved cult status. It's definitely one that, like,

1441
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:34.279
you either really like that movie or you really dislike

1442
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:36.359
that movie. And I think very few people are sort

1443
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:38.800
of on the fence about that. A lot of it

1444
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:40.439
has to do with the pacing and the fact that

1445
01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:43.399
it's made sort of like a late sixties movie instead

1446
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:47.279
of a late seventies movie, given that, you know, movies

1447
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:49.359
like Star Wars had come out two years before this

1448
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:54.199
and been all about the action and stuff. So and

1449
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:56.119
now I think people find it a breath of fresh

1450
01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:58.119
air and when they're kind of going back to those

1451
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:02.239
old tos days. You know, everybody's watched Wrath of con

1452
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:05.159
a million times. Everybody's watched Star Trek four a million times?

1453
01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:07.920
How many times have people watched the motion picture? I

1454
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:11.039
think it's it's become more interesting to people as time

1455
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:13.199
has gone by, and uh, you know, I've gotten the

1456
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:15.319
opportunity to see it on the big screen here in

1457
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:19.039
uh in Portland, and it's it's pretty cool on the

1458
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:21.600
big screen, Like that's really the way that movie was

1459
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:24.000
meant to be seen. So if you can't see it

1460
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:26.920
on the big screen, just sit really really close to

1461
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.960
your television and check out the new four K director's

1462
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:31.800
cut because it is.

1463
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:37.319
Ritual screen and see it.

1464
01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:39.960
You'll get a good saying.

1465
01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:45.000
I think at sixty or seventy in screen, it was poorgeous, you.

1466
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:46.960
Know, I think Eric, I think that it has the

1467
01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:51.560
best opening sequence of any movie. You know, when you

1468
01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:54.079
start off with the with the theme song and all

1469
01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:56.960
the names going by, and then we have that famous

1470
01:21:57.079 --> 01:22:02.239
quing on March theme song and the beautiful incredible klingon

1471
01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:05.079
battle cruisers that lets you know right then and there

1472
01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:07.239
what you were going to be expecting, and that Star

1473
01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:11.000
Trek was back. It was real and it was looking

1474
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:14.960
real good on the big screen. So that that opening

1475
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.920
sequence is incredible and Mark Leonard as the Klingon Commander

1476
01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:23.520
just awesome. Okay, so Charles gets our next story here.

1477
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:27.439
Charles Georgia to be told.

1478
01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:31.079
A Section thirty one comic book tie in Any of

1479
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:35.000
You is announced first merchandise tie in for Section thirty

1480
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:40.239
one movie, with what they're describing as exciting single issue

1481
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:42.399
spin off comic books.

1482
01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:43.279
Set to be released.

1483
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:47.880
Fert details on it are a good stand right now.

1484
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:51.119
But here is this snopch just from IDW The issue of.

1485
01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:54.960
Features Empy phill up at Georgio and a brand new

1486
01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:59.680
an exhilarating adventure is possible. The new comic will help

1487
01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:03.239
you some of the blanks, notably what has happened at

1488
01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:07.079
Georgio between when she left, which she was last seen

1489
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:11.800
traveling behind back in time in the thirty second century

1490
01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:16.239
and Star Trek Discovery season three and the events of

1491
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:20.600
the new movie set in the Lost Years in the

1492
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:24.800
early twenty fourth century. The new book is being written

1493
01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:29.640
by Alissa Wong in her first Star Trek outing, coming

1494
01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:36.600
from Star Wars Doctor Alpra for Marvel and Spirit.

1495
01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:37.079
World for DC.

1496
01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:41.600
Art is being done by Megan Levins, who.

1497
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:45.439
Is working on Starture comics for a decade, including the

1498
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:50.239
most recently IDW's ongoing Star Trek series. The comic is

1499
01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:53.439
priced five ninety nine, and you can reserve a copy

1500
01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.960
now at t FAW with a fewer discount of price

1501
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:01.840
of four nineteen, and also reserve a copy of the

1502
01:24:02.039 --> 01:24:02.880
b post.

1503
01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:07.239
Or cover variant. Sure I think thirty one where premiere Friday,

1504
01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:11.520
January twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, exclusively on Paramount Plus

1505
01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:15.359
in the US and international markets where service is available.

1506
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:19.159
If there's anything compared to what we saw, this car

1507
01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:23.479
very much looking Forda's comic book, because those of us

1508
01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:27.920
that god chance to see the Percard prequel to the

1509
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:32.880
Percard series and read the novel, really we're ready for

1510
01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:35.600
the series and had a good feel what was going

1511
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:37.479
on before the story started.

1512
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.800
Would you agree, Eric, Well, oh.

1513
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:44.279
Yeah, absolutely. I really like these kind of show tie

1514
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:46.800
in one shots that give you just a little bit

1515
01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:50.119
of information about the either the before or the after,

1516
01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:52.359
and we've had a few of these in Star Trek

1517
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:56.920
along the way, and you know, I'm obviously, like I'm

1518
01:24:57.279 --> 01:24:58.960
like many of you here, we're all going to get

1519
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:00.840
in the comics when they come out, So I'm definitely

1520
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:01.880
looking forward to this one.

1521
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:05.600
Hopefully we can review that on a future comic corner

1522
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:09.239
once we get up and running fully. Well, we're gonna

1523
01:25:09.279 --> 01:25:12.079
stay with the Section thirty one news right now. Michelle

1524
01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:16.000
Yo gets back into action in Star Trek's Section thirty one.

1525
01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:19.600
Paramount Plus has unveiled the official trailer for the upcoming

1526
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:24.840
Star Trek spinoff movie, premiering, as Charles just said on Friday,

1527
01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.680
January twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, which is a shame

1528
01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:31.039
because our podcast is on Thursday, which means we have

1529
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:33.359
to wait a whole week unless we do a special show.

1530
01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:36.399
But I'll deal with my co host with that later.

1531
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:41.000
With Oscar Award winning Michelle Yo reprising her Discovery role

1532
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:44.800
as Emperor Philippa Giorgio, Giorgio finds herself joining a Black

1533
01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:48.880
Ops Starfleet division on secret spies known as Section thirty one,

1534
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:52.640
along with a ragtag bunch of operatives. Craig Sweeney pen

1535
01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:56.479
the movie, which was directed by Altunde Osami, and two

1536
01:25:57.119 --> 01:26:02.680
served as EPs alongside Yo, Alex Kurtzman, Aaron Byers, Frank Scucco,

1537
01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:07.760
John Webber, Rod Roddenberry, and Trevor Roth and without any

1538
01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:10.600
further Ado hit it David.

1539
01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:19.479
There's a customer, hope it for a word with you?

1540
01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:20.439
Bring him?

1541
01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:26.760
What are you doing in my space station?

1542
01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:28.760
I'm giving you a chance to get back in on

1543
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:30.760
the actually on a galactic scale.

1544
01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:39.760
What a cute idea. The only way this works is

1545
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:42.159
if I know exactly what I'm dealing with.

1546
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.720
We're facing a threat unlike anything Starfleet's ever seen.

1547
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:49.399
Billions of lives are at stake.

1548
01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:52.960
Gather your people, who are going to need every one

1549
01:26:53.039 --> 01:26:53.319
of them.

1550
01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:56.880
Thirty one is a black Ops division.

1551
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.279
Spy work was just a place for people to Then

1552
01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:02.000
the moves start lad this year to make sure noone

1553
01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:09.359
commits murder. Whatever you believe your mission was, it's worse

1554
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:10.199
than you thought.

1555
01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:14.520
How do we stop it?

1556
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:20.079
Work together? Then? Don't get dead. I'll try my hurtest.

1557
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:24.600
You. Ready, let's get messing.

1558
01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:30.159
You don't answer her questions directly, she will punch.

1559
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:30.760
You in your face.

1560
01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:34.600
What you said that she was gonna be doing a face?

1561
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:39.640
You have no idea what you've started.

1562
01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:53.039
This is gonna be bad. One we survived together.

1563
01:27:56.479 --> 01:28:01.439
M hm. All right, So guys, what do you think

1564
01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:05.319
about actually physically being able to watch the video versus

1565
01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:07.960
just hearing it? I think David did a great job

1566
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:10.640
of getting that up there. David, thank you so much.

1567
01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:14.880
Yeah, it's really cool. Like I think all of the

1568
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:18.399
visual stuff is just really it's gonna be a podcast better.

1569
01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:22.560
Yeah, I think it's going to really improve everything tremendously.

1570
01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:25.439
David is themand I'm going to get him a box

1571
01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:27.920
of donuts for sure, maybe some moldy cheese.

1572
01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:30.920
I'll send you ideas on where to get the good

1573
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:31.760
donuts in Portland.

1574
01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:32.640
There we go.

1575
01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:35.520
So section thirty one, we got the comic book, and

1576
01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:38.079
now we got the trailer which just dropped and I

1577
01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:40.079
wanted to take a minute to talk about it here.

1578
01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:43.319
So the last time. I'm a little bit confused. Maybe

1579
01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:46.760
my co host can help me out here. But in

1580
01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:53.520
season two of Discovery, end of season one, wasn't Georgio

1581
01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:57.479
invited to join Section thirty one when she was given

1582
01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:01.720
the black and silver badge by what's his face there?

1583
01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:05.960
That turned you whose name I can't remember who? Leland?

1584
01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:09.159
Wasn't she invited to join Leland to join and she

1585
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:12.279
was with Ash Tyler in Section thirty one at the

1586
01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:14.479
end of season two of Discovery.

1587
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:21.840
The Discovering Crew, I mean, when she disappeared in time

1588
01:29:22.399 --> 01:29:24.520
she was no longer than a part of section thirty

1589
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:25.800
one at that time period.

1590
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:30.039
So I'm thinking, and again I might be overthinking this,

1591
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.920
but I think when Carl aka the Guardian of Forever

1592
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:38.479
sends her back where she can be more useful. I'm

1593
01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:40.520
trying to figure out where in the starts your timeline

1594
01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:45.000
does this fit in. Is this after Discovery or before?

1595
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:49.399
Like has Discovery art has Discovery left and come to

1596
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:51.720
the future, and this is and she's been left in.

1597
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:57.279
The past of the Enterprise c in one point, Yes.

1598
01:29:57.279 --> 01:30:03.039
Rachel Garrett, Yes, you see Rachel Garrett in see right. Okay.

1599
01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:07.600
I mean some people on Reddit and that sort of

1600
01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:10.159
thing have said that they feel like it's supposed to

1601
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:12.680
be set in the early twenty three thirties.

1602
01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:16.399
Okay, I'm just trying to trying to wrap my head

1603
01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:19.199
around it. And we do get to see a share

1604
01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:21.760
on in this episode, which has been a lot of

1605
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:25.840
people have been going crazy about that. For you people

1606
01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:28.319
that don't know, that was the half black, half white

1607
01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:32.680
race that we saw on TOS that was supposedly wiped out.

1608
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:37.039
But again, you know, who's to say that some of

1609
01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:38.760
them didn't get off the planet. We know a lot

1610
01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:41.800
of Vulcans got off a Vulcan before it was destroyed,

1611
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.239
So this character that we see could just be one

1612
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:50.319
of them that escaped the devastation. You know, we don't

1613
01:30:50.359 --> 01:30:53.920
really know. We don't have a lot. This trailer doesn't

1614
01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:57.680
really give us a lot of information. We do know

1615
01:30:57.800 --> 01:30:59.880
that Michelle Yo is going to be kicking some serious

1616
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:03.720
which she does the best. You know, when she kicks

1617
01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:05.880
Lurca in the face and he's standing behind her in

1618
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:08.880
season one. I always am amazed with that. But we

1619
01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:12.760
don't really know a lot about this. The trailer doesn't

1620
01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:15.399
show us a lot. We do know from the teaser trailer, though,

1621
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:17.119
that there is going to be a lot of stuff

1622
01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:21.560
with young Georgio. And if you guys remember in Discovery,

1623
01:31:22.920 --> 01:31:25.640
when she goes back in time with Carl, she has

1624
01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:29.279
a lot of emotions about sacrificing or well, we don't

1625
01:31:29.319 --> 01:31:31.680
know if she sacrificed him, but I think it's her son.

1626
01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:36.840
Maybe they don't really tell you who it is, but

1627
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:40.199
she has regrets about what happened to either her son

1628
01:31:40.319 --> 01:31:43.720
or her brother somebody in the past. And one of

1629
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:46.039
the early trailers that we saw last year, they showed

1630
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:49.159
her as young Georgio with the blood on her boots,

1631
01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:54.000
So I'm hoping that maybe they explore her background a

1632
01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:57.760
little bit more, which I think they will. But it

1633
01:31:57.880 --> 01:31:59.960
was a weird looking space station too. It didn't look

1634
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:02.279
like Deep Space nine. It was a weird looking station

1635
01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:06.840
and I can't really say too much about it because

1636
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:10.560
they didn't show us much. But I am looking forward

1637
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:12.880
to it, I really really am. Last time we saw

1638
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:15.600
Georgio in Section thirty one, she was preventing to kling

1639
01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:19.479
On Empire from crumbling when Cole Shah tried to take

1640
01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:23.880
over from Laurel and ash Tyler, and she showed up

1641
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:27.439
and kicked all their asses and stopped that from happening.

1642
01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:30.680
That's the last time we saw her her in action

1643
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:33.399
with Section thirty one. So yeah, I'm looking forward to

1644
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:37.560
seeing what they do with this myself. And being a movie,

1645
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:40.600
it's got to start out. It's got to be quick,

1646
01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:43.399
it's got to be sweetened to the point. They're not

1647
01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:45.039
going to have a lot of time to fool around

1648
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:47.279
on a lot of backstory stuff. They got to get

1649
01:32:47.399 --> 01:32:49.600
right in, get right out, and it's got to be

1650
01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:52.359
visually stunning if it's going to keep pace with what

1651
01:32:52.479 --> 01:32:55.319
we see in the movies today. So I'm looking forward

1652
01:32:55.359 --> 01:32:57.880
to it. I'm hearing a lot of fans that are already,

1653
01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:01.039
you know, pooh poohing on it, but not me. I'm

1654
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.039
not one of them. I want to see it. I

1655
01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:08.319
love Michelle Yo, and I'm looking forward to it myself.

1656
01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:10.920
So what are you going to be?

1657
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:17.680
Twenty three thirties this was John's Picard and his twenties.

1658
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:21.680
This would be when just out of starfleet.

1659
01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:23.399
This is an.

1660
01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:29.039
Early star trek. This is this is a little definitely

1661
01:33:29.159 --> 01:33:32.600
a big hole in time frame because if I look

1662
01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:34.680
at at a timeline.

1663
01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:38.199
Twenty two to ninety three is undiscovered country.

1664
01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:42.239
Jhonath's Picard is born in twenty three h five, and

1665
01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:45.199
the Enterprise I see it destroy in twenty three forty four.

1666
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:49.079
Then we hit TG in twenty three sixty four.

1667
01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:51.960
We've got a big hole in time here that we

1668
01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:53.640
don't know much details on.

1669
01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:57.520
It's a good filler spot to what's going on in

1670
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:01.760
start in the Earth such at that time period.

1671
01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:05.359
Absolutely a lot of stuff that they could could cover

1672
01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:08.680
for us. What about you, Paul, what do you think?

1673
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:14.560
I try to be cautiously optimistic until i've seen, you know,

1674
01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:19.920
seen the material, right. I mean making trailers for a

1675
01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:25.000
TV movie is a very specific act, right, a very

1676
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:30.279
specific craft or purpose. It's not like making a movie.

1677
01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:38.439
It's it's marketing, it's advertising. And yeah, style and preferences

1678
01:34:38.800 --> 01:34:44.000
are a little subjective. Right. When you were reading your

1679
01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:48.600
article there, you mentioned the director oldatunde Osunsanmi. Right, Well,

1680
01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:54.680
that gentleman has done a ton of Discoveries, Okay, a ton,

1681
01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:57.640
and I think a couple of Strange New Worlds as well,

1682
01:34:57.720 --> 01:35:00.800
but mostly i've seen his name on disc right, So

1683
01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:03.439
as you can see in this, you're getting a really

1684
01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:07.960
similar look to Discovery, right, a lot of kind of flashiness.

1685
01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:15.680
I it's the tone isn't what I expected from I

1686
01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:18.239
mean back in you know, through all the iterations that

1687
01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:22.279
we've ever heard of. Section thirty one, I mean, they're

1688
01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:25.640
they're painted is a very dark organization, you know, kind

1689
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:28.520
of a black ops type thing kind of I was

1690
01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:30.319
expecting when I first heard that they were going to

1691
01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:32.840
do this picture, right, or originally it was a series

1692
01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:34.720
and they were going to go, Okay, well maybe not

1693
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:37.359
a series, because but we'll let you do a movie.

1694
01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:39.840
And I don't know if that's a good sign, right,

1695
01:35:40.039 --> 01:35:41.960
because It's like if you originally thought you were going

1696
01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:44.760
to be a series and then they're relegating you to

1697
01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:46.640
just one movie. I think it's kind of like, well,

1698
01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:48.760
let's see how this does kind of a thing, right,

1699
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:50.720
and then it's a wait and see and they're going

1700
01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:53.199
to give you a shot. But it doesn't project a

1701
01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:57.359
lot of confidence, right, And I think that they're getting

1702
01:35:57.359 --> 01:36:00.680
a little nervous in terms of like fan reaction to

1703
01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:03.399
some of the things that they've done in the last

1704
01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:03.960
few years.

1705
01:36:05.439 --> 01:36:05.560
Right.

1706
01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:09.399
So I'm hopeful it's good, but I expected something that

1707
01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:12.520
was a lot darker, more of like a you know,

1708
01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:18.520
like a Mission Impossible or a Captain America Winter Soldier,

1709
01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:21.239
you know, a darker conspiracy thriller kind of thing. But

1710
01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:29.199
when you know, I'm getting all this flashy nightclub nonsense, right,

1711
01:36:29.399 --> 01:36:33.880
I mean immediately, I'm back with all the the nightclub

1712
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:39.119
nonsense that we had in la like the last Star

1713
01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:44.319
Wars movie, right, Rise of Skywalker, there was so much crazy.

1714
01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:46.399
It seems to be a thing that you have right

1715
01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:50.119
now with a lot of fictional shows. Oh there's to

1716
01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:54.159
be exciting nightclub scene, right, because well, who's writing this stuff?

1717
01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:54.359
Right?

1718
01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:56.720
Where are they getting the whole idea that that is

1719
01:36:56.760 --> 01:36:59.560
what the audience. I never see a nightclub in Star Trek.

1720
01:37:01.239 --> 01:37:05.000
That's fine, I don't understand why the urgency to make

1721
01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:08.239
sure that you're seeing it in due prophecy right now

1722
01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:10.239
as well, where they sort of feel we need to

1723
01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:12.600
appeal to the younger folks who go out and drink

1724
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:15.439
a lot. We're gonna, you know, have an exciting scene

1725
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.880
in a nightclub. It looks really cool, and we'll have

1726
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:22.279
a close up of someone's exotic looking shoes, no fellas.

1727
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:24.600
I mean, I want to like it. I hope it's good,

1728
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:28.199
but based on the footage I'm seeing here, I'm a

1729
01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:31.800
little reluctant. It's just not a very good trailer. It

1730
01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:34.399
doesn't look like a very good story to me. I mean,

1731
01:37:34.439 --> 01:37:37.000
I'm hopefully I want to be wrong, and like I

1732
01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:40.159
like I said, this is the trailer. I'm not judging

1733
01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:43.720
the finished product because I haven't seen the finished product, right,

1734
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:45.720
I'm just judging what I have and what I've seen here.

1735
01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:51.239
But I'm hesitant. I'm a little nervous. This doesn't look

1736
01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:54.079
like what I would expect the section thirty one movie

1737
01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:57.199
to look like. Eric, help me out, what do you

1738
01:37:57.399 --> 01:38:01.439
think I'm an old man yelling at clouds over here?

1739
01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:07.560
Now, is that who I am?

1740
01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:10.199
Or do you have a similar vibe?

1741
01:38:10.760 --> 01:38:13.439
Well, I mean I think I think cautious optimism is

1742
01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:16.479
a great like phrase to sort of start out with.

1743
01:38:16.720 --> 01:38:20.000
I mean, I am I glad that this was made. Yes,

1744
01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:23.520
am I glad that Michelle Yo is in it. Absolutely

1745
01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:26.359
like she's freaking amazing right and she's like at the

1746
01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:29.000
top of her game right now too, which so it's

1747
01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:31.760
special to still have her as part of the Star

1748
01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:35.279
Trek universe, even though she's kind of like almost even

1749
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:40.239
bigger than the moment. So so that I'm excited about

1750
01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:44.039
I you know, I have some of the same misgivings

1751
01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:46.960
that that that Paul has with just with the trailer,

1752
01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:50.640
and this is like so but okay, let me back up.

1753
01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:55.399
It's not just the trailer. The concept of this show

1754
01:38:56.079 --> 01:38:59.000
or what became a movie, I think from the beginning

1755
01:38:59.319 --> 01:39:03.279
has made me a little bit uncomfortable, like the times

1756
01:39:03.359 --> 01:39:06.840
that well, so the most deep Space or the most

1757
01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:08.600
uh section thirty one that we ever got was on

1758
01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:11.399
Deep Space nine, right, And in that one, it was

1759
01:39:11.520 --> 01:39:14.960
kind of like these these side stories that were happening

1760
01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:18.039
along the way that allowed character development of characters like

1761
01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:21.640
Basher and that sort of thing, while plugging into concepts

1762
01:39:21.760 --> 01:39:24.199
of the Dominion war and kind of secrecy and all

1763
01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:26.039
that kind of stuff. So Section thirty one was kind

1764
01:39:26.039 --> 01:39:30.840
of a vehicle to tell different parts of those stories

1765
01:39:30.960 --> 01:39:33.520
that were part of kind of a larger hole. What

1766
01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:36.079
we've done now is we've taken our focus and we've

1767
01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:40.279
pinpointed and we've laser focused on something that is supposed

1768
01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:42.600
to be secret. And so I'm kind of with Paul,

1769
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:45.279
my expectation would be, then, Okay, it is going to

1770
01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:47.840
be mission impossible. It's going to be super secret, like

1771
01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:52.119
there's going to be like undercover stuff. And the trailer

1772
01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:56.640
reads as action, action action, which I get, like you

1773
01:39:56.720 --> 01:39:58.560
got to have that in the movies and that sort

1774
01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:02.319
of thing. But I hope that it doesn't lose its

1775
01:40:02.359 --> 01:40:06.840
star trek soul, and I'm hoping that it doesn't do

1776
01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:14.239
what it could potentially do, which is glorify things like

1777
01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:19.439
like the concept of I have power over you and

1778
01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:21.760
therefore I can do what I want. You know, there's

1779
01:40:22.119 --> 01:40:25.039
like a fine line, I think in section thirty one

1780
01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:29.479
between I'm helping the good guys and I'm an absolute

1781
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:34.039
fascist and you know Georgeau, I mean Emperor Georgeou we

1782
01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:37.039
already know, has a history of committing genocide. And yes,

1783
01:40:37.119 --> 01:40:40.920
she went through kind of a character reformation and she's

1784
01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:44.960
a different person now, thank you, Michael Burnham. But there's

1785
01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:47.199
just a little bit of danger in that, kind of

1786
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:50.680
like glorification of fascism in it. So anyway, I'm excited

1787
01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:53.079
about it. I'm gonna watch it. I am not saying

1788
01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:56.000
that it's going to be terrible. The trailer does not

1789
01:40:56.359 --> 01:40:59.720
totally make me have warm fuzzies in my belly, So

1790
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:00.680
that's my opinion.

1791
01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:02.800
Okay, David, you get to bring up the caboose on

1792
01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:03.479
this one, buddy.

1793
01:41:04.079 --> 01:41:07.520
Oh uh yeah. It was the first time watching it,

1794
01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:10.520
to be honest, it's a lot to take in.

1795
01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:12.920
That's wait a minute, what about all the all the

1796
01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:15.279
hours we spent setting this all up and getting the

1797
01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:16.079
timing right.

1798
01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:19.760
I didn't actually watch it all the way through.

1799
01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:21.640
That's fair, that's fair.

1800
01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:26.640
But yeah, so the beginning and the end I did see,

1801
01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:29.000
but the middle part was a little too much to

1802
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:32.279
take in all at once, and it was like I

1803
01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:36.720
am kind of in the boat with uh Eric and

1804
01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:39.079
Paul Hughe the fact that it doesn't really give me,

1805
01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:41.680
you know, the one fudgy feelings, and I'm hoping that

1806
01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:48.319
they don't destroy it. The last section thirty one preview

1807
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:50.760
that they did like what a couple several months ago

1808
01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:54.199
that didn't really connect with me at all. I was

1809
01:41:54.319 --> 01:41:57.239
a little I was scared for the franchise, to be honest,

1810
01:41:57.880 --> 01:42:02.359
hoping that this done good. But yeah, like Paul said,

1811
01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:08.520
I'm gonna be optimistically uh castrous, So well, we'll see,

1812
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:10.520
would go. I mean coming out in January twenty fourth

1813
01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:14.640
is not that far from yeah, right about another month's show.

1814
01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:17.239
But right around the corner.

1815
01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:19.960
Yeah, hoping that that's good.

1816
01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:22.159
Uh, it seems like they're bringing back a lot of

1817
01:42:23.199 --> 01:42:26.680
uh nochealdic like that what do you call him?

1818
01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:30.520
The show on or something? Yeah, I mean it.

1819
01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:33.000
Does really well because I'd love to see them make

1820
01:42:33.079 --> 01:42:35.800
more one shot movies based on different concepts. That would

1821
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:36.920
be that would be super cool.

1822
01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:39.760
Yeah, I mean, who knows they could end up turning

1823
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:40.960
this into a TV series.

1824
01:42:42.479 --> 01:42:46.000
Wow, Michelle yo I is a very high commodity. I

1825
01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:47.399
don't know if they could afford her.

1826
01:42:47.319 --> 01:42:49.439
For a TV series characters or something.

1827
01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:52.119
Yeah, maybe I was kind.

1828
01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:54.039
Of hoping we would see ash Tyler, that was what

1829
01:42:54.119 --> 01:42:57.399
we were originally told, but it's maybe we're not going

1830
01:42:57.479 --> 01:42:58.000
to see him.

1831
01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:00.800
Well, I mean the trailer doesn't reveal everything, of course,

1832
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:06.399
I mean, yeah, yeah. Caul said that he hasn't been

1833
01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:09.199
able to see the whole material, so he can't really

1834
01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:13.359
put a finger on it, you know whatever. But to me,

1835
01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:16.000
I'm in the same boat. It's just just a material

1836
01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:19.399
that we see right here that is just not the

1837
01:43:19.479 --> 01:43:22.800
whole picture. And they might end up putting in characters

1838
01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:25.239
like what Charles Wood mentioning, you know, this is a

1839
01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:27.159
timeline where if it is going to be set in

1840
01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:30.439
the twenty three thirties, what if we do see a

1841
01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:34.920
young Captain Picard or something. No, maybe he's off gets

1842
01:43:35.039 --> 01:43:39.960
mentioned or something and off with his ship that he had,

1843
01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:43.479
the Stargazer. So, I mean, the Strait is supposed to

1844
01:43:43.479 --> 01:43:46.960
be the Enterprise she which is the technically the flagship

1845
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:51.319
at that time for the Federation, and once she gets destroyed,

1846
01:43:51.359 --> 01:43:54.199
if Chexta thirty one has anything to do with it,

1847
01:43:54.760 --> 01:43:56.159
how it got destroyed.

1848
01:43:55.800 --> 01:43:57.920
Well, I wonder if they'll actually bring the Enterprise see

1849
01:43:57.920 --> 01:43:59.960
into this movie. Is that I mean, is Rachel Garrett

1850
01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:00.479
in this movie.

1851
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:00.680
Is that?

1852
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:05.159
Yeah, that's definitely they actually bring the enterprise scene in

1853
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:05.680
that would be.

1854
01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:08.159
And I think that these I think the scenes that

1855
01:44:08.239 --> 01:44:11.119
they show us might actually be on Georgia's space station.

1856
01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:12.800
Maybe it's not clear.

1857
01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:20.199
Yeah, anyway, I am really curious though, who is that

1858
01:44:20.680 --> 01:44:21.840
bang looking character?

1859
01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:29.880
I mean, well, so there was a guy from wasn't

1860
01:44:29.920 --> 01:44:33.239
it the motion parture from Star Trek six that the

1861
01:44:33.359 --> 01:44:35.800
s gameloid the woman.

1862
01:44:37.800 --> 01:44:41.039
H David's talking about the guy with the machines on

1863
01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:44.000
his head. There was a guy from like motion picture

1864
01:44:44.159 --> 01:44:46.319
something that hades on machines on his head like that

1865
01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:48.079
one there, Because I remember the first time I ever

1866
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:50.399
saw him, I thought of that guy from Star Wars

1867
01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:53.840
that has the the like metal thing that kind of comes.

1868
01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:57.840
With yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's one of the rag

1869
01:44:57.960 --> 01:45:01.520
tag misfits that they like, like, you know, it's just

1870
01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:03.680
like that to me. It does not if you say,

1871
01:45:03.760 --> 01:45:07.880
who is hey, Paul, what are the folks at section

1872
01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:08.479
thirty one?

1873
01:45:08.680 --> 01:45:08.720
Like?

1874
01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:12.800
Right, I'm picturing like you know CI agents, right, or

1875
01:45:13.159 --> 01:45:15.560
you know the equivalent right of like you know, time

1876
01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:19.399
traveling cats, right. The most elite of the elite of

1877
01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:23.000
the elite of the finally tuned machine. That is the

1878
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:28.680
secret you know, control entities of Starfleet, right, the ones

1879
01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:32.560
who are running without really any yeah, and the ones

1880
01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:34.119
who do the thing that nobody else does but but

1881
01:45:34.520 --> 01:45:38.520
highly elite forces. Right. That does not sound like rag

1882
01:45:38.680 --> 01:45:41.880
tag misfits, right, And it is not sounds like a

1883
01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:45.039
bunch of like, you know, are we getting Police Academy

1884
01:45:45.279 --> 01:45:47.680
or are we getting you know, section thirty one? Which

1885
01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:50.359
is it? Right? So, I don't know, I worry this

1886
01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:52.880
is going to be like one of those uh, you

1887
01:45:52.960 --> 01:45:57.720
know what was that weird Netflix movie Jim from uh

1888
01:45:58.199 --> 01:46:00.399
that was very Star Wars couple of.

1889
01:46:00.520 --> 01:46:01.319
Oh uh.

1890
01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:06.840
Yeah, I worry we're going down that road, right, sort

1891
01:46:06.840 --> 01:46:11.199
of like flashy and nonsensical and and not a lot

1892
01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:14.560
of great you know director. Right.

1893
01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:17.840
So, like part of me is like, Okay, the director

1894
01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:21.119
of this thing is amazing, and the star is amazing.

1895
01:46:21.279 --> 01:46:24.840
So if the writing is halfway decent and it's all

1896
01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:27.399
about is it Star Trek or is it a Star

1897
01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:30.600
Trek universe Star Wars movie, that's the.

1898
01:46:31.079 --> 01:46:31.720
Question for me.

1899
01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:34.720
That's what I'm really worried about myself, because if they

1900
01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:39.079
change the flavor it's going, I might actually spit it out.

1901
01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:42.359
Maybe maybe, I mean, is it okay to have like

1902
01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:47.199
one Star Wars the Star Trek thing.

1903
01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:52.399
Yeah, kind of got jj Abra movie that would kind

1904
01:46:52.399 --> 01:46:52.760
of more of a.

1905
01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:57.920
Wars through line of the like teamwork, and I mean

1906
01:46:57.920 --> 01:46:59.439
there was more action, but I don't.

1907
01:46:59.800 --> 01:47:02.000
Yeah, I'm not averse to action. I just I would

1908
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:04.520
like it if that, you know, whatever this story ends

1909
01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:06.840
up being, and we don't really know, we don't, it'll

1910
01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:08.439
be some kind of threat, you know, and it'll be

1911
01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:11.479
some kind of thing. But whatever it is, right, you know,

1912
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.760
the whole universe will be in peril, right, because that's

1913
01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:16.840
what they do at Paramount. Yeah, you can't just be

1914
01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:21.199
a little threat regular Company. Every atom of molecules must

1915
01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:25.720
be right. I just want this whatever version of section

1916
01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:27.720
thirty one we're getting, I want it to align and

1917
01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:32.359
fit with the versions of this organization we've been talked

1918
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:37.119
told about previous episodes like guy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I

1919
01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:39.359
mean it should fit, right. You should sort of morally

1920
01:47:39.479 --> 01:47:43.680
questionable people who do you know, stuff that that most

1921
01:47:43.760 --> 01:47:45.279
people should not know about.

1922
01:47:45.319 --> 01:47:47.560
Not glorified, but who believe that they are doing the

1923
01:47:47.640 --> 01:47:48.920
right thing every single time.

1924
01:47:49.039 --> 01:47:52.399
And the one liners and quips for God's sake, keep

1925
01:47:52.439 --> 01:47:53.199
it to a minimum.

1926
01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:54.880
And that is the trailer, so hopefully.

1927
01:47:55.079 --> 01:47:56.920
The one thing I do like about this trailer is

1928
01:47:56.960 --> 01:47:58.880
that it brings everybody together to talk about it.

1929
01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:00.680
So we're doing we are.

1930
01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:02.680
Doing that, yeah, And you know, it's fun to think

1931
01:48:02.680 --> 01:48:04.720
about it, right, We don't know, right, and it's and

1932
01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:07.119
it's just like you know, and and if some people

1933
01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:09.439
have like a lot of caution at first, and one

1934
01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:12.600
person's really enthusiastic, right, that makes for a good conversation.

1935
01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:15.159
It just gets things going right, and we're really curious.

1936
01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:18.119
So we're more invested in watching it now than before.

1937
01:48:18.159 --> 01:48:18.600
It makes.

1938
01:48:20.119 --> 01:48:24.399
So far, all we've seen is her briefly walking in

1939
01:48:24.479 --> 01:48:27.159
the desert with a sword overhead, stepping in a puddle

1940
01:48:27.159 --> 01:48:29.159
of blood, could be anything, and then a bunch of

1941
01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:32.239
fight scenes in a bar. That's all we've seen. We

1942
01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:35.840
don't haven't seen anything about the story or this big

1943
01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:39.279
threat or nothing, so they're keeping it under wraps. So

1944
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:40.560
I'm looking forward to it.

1945
01:48:41.239 --> 01:48:44.399
And deep down, once we find out who's real real

1946
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:46.880
pushing it behind the curtain, it's just a giant triple.

1947
01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:51.479
That could be or a giant donut. Giant donut and

1948
01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:55.399
I believe, I believe that Paul has our final story. Yes,

1949
01:48:55.479 --> 01:48:58.680
Paul has our last story of the of the evening.

1950
01:48:58.800 --> 01:48:59.800
So take it away, Paul.

1951
01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:02.039
All right, Well, if you're working in Hollywood and the

1952
01:49:02.119 --> 01:49:04.520
creative endeavors, you're hoping it eventually you'll get acknowledged for

1953
01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:07.279
your work. And what better way to get acknowledged and

1954
01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:11.159
be acknowledged by your peers. And it is delightful to

1955
01:49:11.199 --> 01:49:13.039
be able to say that the Star Trek, Discovery and

1956
01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:16.800
Lower Decks have both been nominated for Saturn Awards, because

1957
01:49:17.119 --> 01:49:19.640
as we turned into the Caboose at the end of

1958
01:49:19.640 --> 01:49:22.239
the year. Here as we wrap up twenty twenty four,

1959
01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:25.000
we're heading into awards season and things are kicking off

1960
01:49:25.079 --> 01:49:27.279
for Star Trek with the final seasons of two shows

1961
01:49:27.319 --> 01:49:31.000
picking up Saturn Award nominations, while Discovery and Lower Decks

1962
01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:33.439
are being recognized that franchise isn't getting the kind of

1963
01:49:33.520 --> 01:49:36.680
love from the Sunns and hasn't previous years. What's more

1964
01:49:36.720 --> 01:49:39.960
of going on there? The nominations for the fifty second

1965
01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:43.319
annual Saturn Awards were announced by the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy,

1966
01:49:43.359 --> 01:49:47.319
and Horror. Since nineteen seventy two, the Saturn Awards have

1967
01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:52.760
been recognizing extraordinary programming, performances and special effects in genre entertainment.

1968
01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:56.840
That would be your science fiction, fantasy and horror sean.

1969
01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:01.000
This year, Star Trek brought in two nominations. Trek Discovery

1970
01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:03.840
was nominated for its fifth and final season for Best

1971
01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:07.399
Science Fiction Television Series. It's going up against three Body

1972
01:50:07.520 --> 01:50:11.479
Problem though that was a big one. Ahsoka over there

1973
01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:16.720
on Disney, The The Arc which I don't know, Dark Matter,

1974
01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:20.159
and Fallout, which is done pretty well. Last year, the

1975
01:50:20.199 --> 01:50:22.600
third and final season of Star Trek Picard won this

1976
01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:26.520
award because season three was pretty great. We lost several others.

1977
01:50:26.760 --> 01:50:29.119
All four previous seasons of Discovery were nominated for Best

1978
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:33.319
Streaming Media Television Series, and the first two seasons one

1979
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:37.159
how about that now? Star Trek Lower Decks was nominated

1980
01:50:37.199 --> 01:50:39.520
for Best Animated Television Series for its fifth and final

1981
01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:44.279
season maybe final season on Paramount Plus. Maybe there will

1982
01:50:44.359 --> 01:50:48.159
be another season someplace else, Let's hope. All right, I'm

1983
01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:52.520
looking at you, Dealynn. It's competing with Batman, Cape Crusader,

1984
01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:55.640
Gremlin's The Wild Batch, Kaiju Number eight, Star Wars, The

1985
01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:59.439
Bad Batch, and X Men ninety seven Snickety Snick Lower

1986
01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:02.359
Decks was nominated last year as well, but lost out

1987
01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:07.560
to Bad Batch Were Were There were no other nominations

1988
01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:10.359
for Star Trek this year. Last year, the franchise picked

1989
01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:13.720
up fifteen nominations across the Card, Lower Decks, Strange, New Worlds,

1990
01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:16.119
and Home Media. The total nominations is the fewest for

1991
01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:19.159
the franchise during the new Paramount plus Star Trek TV

1992
01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:22.880
era starting in twenty eighteen, when Discovery picked up six

1993
01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:28.199
nominations for its first season winning too. The Saturn Awards

1994
01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:32.479
ceremony will be held on February second, twenty twenty five,

1995
01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:36.520
at the Hilton Universal City Hotel. When in luxurious downtown

1996
01:51:36.600 --> 01:51:40.159
Los Angeles stay at the Hilton Universal City Hotel. It

1997
01:51:40.199 --> 01:51:45.640
will be streamed live on Electric Entertainment's Electric Now platform. Sorry,

1998
01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:48.600
say does that need batteries? Does anyone have ever heard

1999
01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:48.720
of that?

2000
01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:50.800
Yeah?

2001
01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:54.720
I would say no to that. And on the Roku channel,

2002
01:51:54.760 --> 01:51:57.359
which I think is still out there next to AOL

2003
01:51:57.520 --> 01:51:59.399
right and all are.

2004
01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:02.319
I pressed the Roku channel that it takes like a

2005
01:52:02.359 --> 01:52:04.359
couple of minutes, but he does something the.

2006
01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:07.600
Same use to power data is dead?

2007
01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:07.920
Right?

2008
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:10.439
Isn't that how it works? I'm pretty sure that.

2009
01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:14.439
I'm sorry.

2010
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:17.000
Isn't it great to give me a news story?

2011
01:52:17.039 --> 01:52:17.319
Isn't that?

2012
01:52:17.479 --> 01:52:17.960
Isn't that just?

2013
01:52:18.399 --> 01:52:20.680
What's even better is seeing your face while you read it.

2014
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:21.479
That's my favorite.

2015
01:52:21.520 --> 01:52:23.960
Well I like this new video thing, I really do.

2016
01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:27.359
It's it's and all the stuff David did, and I

2017
01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:29.560
feel like we're hanging out in the bar together, right,

2018
01:52:29.680 --> 01:52:32.119
and we're a little looser. I think it's.

2019
01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:38.800
Yeah, so I have a serious this article though, Yeah, bro, Yeah,

2020
01:52:39.039 --> 01:52:43.119
So Star Trek Discovery was nominated for its fifth and

2021
01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:47.399
final season, So that didn't come out in the last year, right,

2022
01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:52.359
am I misremembering things? Is Star Trek Discovery's fifth season?

2023
01:52:52.439 --> 01:52:53.279
When did that come out?

2024
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:55.840
Well? When did it come out? Or when was it done?

2025
01:52:55.880 --> 01:52:57.600
Because remember the when did it finish?

2026
01:52:58.720 --> 01:52:58.880
Oh?

2027
01:52:59.600 --> 01:52:59.840
Was it this?

2028
01:53:00.479 --> 01:53:01.439
Yeah? Not too long ago?

2029
01:53:02.079 --> 01:53:03.680
Okay, so I think it was like at the beginning

2030
01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:04.039
of this year.

2031
01:53:04.359 --> 01:53:06.119
It kind of seems like it would have been nominated

2032
01:53:06.159 --> 01:53:07.399
for this this cycle, right.

2033
01:53:07.439 --> 01:53:09.199
That's what I'm just it just felt like it was

2034
01:53:09.279 --> 01:53:12.000
longer ago, and so I got a little confused when

2035
01:53:12.039 --> 01:53:14.560
it was more with more contemporary things like three Body

2036
01:53:14.600 --> 01:53:16.800
Problems just came out a few months ago or you know.

2037
01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:20.279
Okay, okay, Well, remember they finished it and then they

2038
01:53:20.399 --> 01:53:22.840
canceled it, and then they went back and refilmed the

2039
01:53:23.079 --> 01:53:25.960
ending and we had to wait a long time.

2040
01:53:26.239 --> 01:53:29.800
That's right in the final episode of the of the

2041
01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:34.800
finale series. Finale aired on May thirtieth, twenty twenty four.

2042
01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:36.039
So just this last minute.

2043
01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:36.399
Okay.

2044
01:53:37.359 --> 01:53:39.760
So you'd think it would be among these nominations, right

2045
01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:43.039
because this is the current cycle, but it was not. Yeah.

2046
01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:45.479
So I don't know, it's a little too bad because

2047
01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:46.399
the fifth season was.

2048
01:53:48.119 --> 01:53:48.279
Good.

2049
01:53:48.640 --> 01:53:50.560
Good, like there's some good stuff in there. Yeah, yeah,

2050
01:53:50.800 --> 01:53:51.000
it was.

2051
01:53:51.479 --> 01:53:51.680
It was.

2052
01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:58.399
It was better than three. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even

2053
01:53:58.399 --> 01:53:59.800
know what it was.

2054
01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:01.640
Yeah, we could do a whole thing.

2055
01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:05.039
Talking about we can talk about that sometimes.

2056
01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:10.880
Anybody else, is anybody else trying to endure doing prophecies

2057
01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:12.720
or just me? It's just.

2058
01:54:14.520 --> 01:54:15.239
Yeah, I am.

2059
01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:17.720
I love those those doing movies. I love those first

2060
01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:20.920
two doing movies, The Death. I think they're brilliant and

2061
01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:22.800
I had high hopes for this thing, but man, it

2062
01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:27.520
is just like a snoozefest is just tedious and.

2063
01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:29.680
Well Patrick start there is Gurney.

2064
01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:36.039
Yeah, you know, sure, Sean Young is looking for work.

2065
01:54:36.079 --> 01:54:39.399
I mean she bring her out. But yeah, it's just

2066
01:54:39.600 --> 01:54:41.680
I've had such high hopes for it, and I'm just like,

2067
01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:45.319
you know, boy, it's it's a slog fellas.

2068
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:45.760
Sorry.

2069
01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:50.359
Well yeah, oh well it was fun. And you know

2070
01:54:50.399 --> 01:54:54.119
what I say, I say, to hell with our old platform,

2071
01:54:54.439 --> 01:54:56.840
uh you know, with the blog talk radio, you know,

2072
01:54:57.039 --> 01:55:02.359
and uh you know to us, Yeah yeah, long what

2073
01:55:02.800 --> 01:55:04.800
you used to say in the Roman times death to

2074
01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:08.159
like long live the Emperor or whatever. But yeah, but

2075
01:55:08.359 --> 01:55:10.840
this new platform is great. I really like it. It's fun,

2076
01:55:11.119 --> 01:55:15.159
it's engaging, and kudos to David and Jim for putting

2077
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:16.119
all these visuals together.

2078
01:55:16.279 --> 01:55:18.000
It's did a hell of a job.

2079
01:55:18.760 --> 01:55:20.520
Yeah. I don't know you can keep this up every week?

2080
01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:25.039
My god, you know, but but I surely you over time, right,

2081
01:55:25.520 --> 01:55:27.359
you know, we all figure it out, right, every week,

2082
01:55:27.399 --> 01:55:29.680
got of gram stuff in. But it's great. I really think.

2083
01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:33.640
It's just it sounds so much better. The audio quality

2084
01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:37.239
is just so much better difference. Yeah, yeah, right, So

2085
01:55:37.720 --> 01:55:40.239
I'm really glad this worked out. It seems it seems

2086
01:55:40.319 --> 01:55:43.039
like a wonderful, nice turn of events.

2087
01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:48.079
So you guys like the video and the pictures and stuff,

2088
01:55:48.159 --> 01:55:49.640
and we'll keep this format.

2089
01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:52.239
I can't wait to see what the what it looks

2090
01:55:52.279 --> 01:55:55.319
like on the tail end. I mean, yeah, I'm very curious.

2091
01:55:55.359 --> 01:55:56.760
This is all kind of an experiment for us.

2092
01:55:56.960 --> 01:55:59.760
It's a little weird, right Whenever you'd play a trailer

2093
01:56:00.119 --> 01:56:01.960
something and we were just hearing it, and it's just

2094
01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:04.439
like people can't see it, right, And now now you

2095
01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:06.760
play a trailer or footage, you can see it. I

2096
01:56:06.880 --> 01:56:09.600
think it's great, so really really.

2097
01:56:09.439 --> 01:56:12.359
Nice, and I got I can't say enough. David did

2098
01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:15.119
a great job with all of this. We've been talking

2099
01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:17.560
on the Phony spot every every night this week, right

2100
01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:19.439
David every night?

2101
01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:19.720
Yeah.

2102
01:56:19.960 --> 01:56:21.680
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I got it

2103
01:56:21.720 --> 01:56:24.680
all in order because I didn't really chee. I couldn't

2104
01:56:24.680 --> 01:56:28.800
see the list that we were reading off of. But

2105
01:56:29.039 --> 01:56:30.720
I was like, okay, so we got to do this

2106
01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:32.159
one to know what it furched, and in this one

2107
01:56:32.279 --> 01:56:34.479
and then that probably I don't know how long did

2108
01:56:34.479 --> 01:56:35.560
it take, Like maybe an hour?

2109
01:56:37.640 --> 01:56:39.359
Yeah, But I think it came out well and I

2110
01:56:39.399 --> 01:56:42.920
think we'll stick with it. I hope the fans like it.

2111
01:56:43.159 --> 01:56:46.000
I got to tell you though, the podcast is going

2112
01:56:46.079 --> 01:56:49.079
to come out as an audio only on Spotify and

2113
01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:52.359
iTunes and all that stuff. The video stuff that we're filming.

2114
01:56:52.640 --> 01:56:55.479
I'm gonna have to mess around with that, set it

2115
01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:59.000
all up, and we'll probably release that, maybe on Charles's

2116
01:56:59.039 --> 01:57:01.680
new Patreon channel. When we get that set up. Maybe

2117
01:57:01.840 --> 01:57:07.039
I'll put some snippets on YouTube, maybe Facebook if they

2118
01:57:07.079 --> 01:57:10.319
ever get our page fixed. I haven't decided what we're

2119
01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:11.439
going to do with the video yet.

2120
01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:15.239
But how YouTube gets crazy hits, I mean it's just

2121
01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:18.119
I mean, that's just like you want to build an audience, man,

2122
01:57:18.279 --> 01:57:21.520
YouTube is nuts. It really gets a following. So if

2123
01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:24.840
we want to grow back the audience we lost off

2124
01:57:24.920 --> 01:57:27.960
of the first hit to the first Facebook group, I mean,

2125
01:57:28.039 --> 01:57:29.159
that's a quick way to do it.

2126
01:57:29.640 --> 01:57:32.520
Yeah, so we might we might go to YouTube.

2127
01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:40.239
The web page. I think that'll get us some interest,

2128
01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:43.800
and the and the Patreon so those links in there

2129
01:57:43.800 --> 01:57:45.359
and they get attention to all that.

2130
01:57:46.239 --> 01:57:47.960
So we're going to keep the format. I think it

2131
01:57:48.039 --> 01:57:51.079
worked out great and I'm happy with it. So.

2132
01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:54.640
Oh so, if we get any kind of block from YouTube,

2133
01:57:54.680 --> 01:57:59.039
there's always another free feet platform where called Rumble. I

2134
01:57:59.039 --> 01:58:00.399
don't know if you guys ever heard of that, but

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they're more open to allowing people to just post pretty

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much whatever they want. And it's exactly like YouTube, but

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it's more open for stuff. So just in case we

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like get you know, blocked from YouTube for some reason,

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I don't know why we would, but a lot of.

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It comes in copyrighted, but you're allowed to use it.

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I've got some stuff on my channel that is allowed

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of that material.

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Okay, so guys, next week we're going to be talking

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about the what's the next episode Upper Decks. We're going

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to be talking about Yes this is Yes, there we go,

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There we go. He's gotta do this thing. See, David's

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on the ball here. He's more on the ball than

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I am. He's got a thousand more. So next week

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we'll be talking about Upper Decks. And we've got some

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stories about a lady in New York who's been getting

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tickets in Long Island matter of fact, because of her

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license plate. I wonder what that could be. And Captain

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Janeway Kate mullgrew herself was rallying for some characters on Voyager,

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but she was overturned. We're going to talk about that

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a little bit as well. And I think we have

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another Voyager story that we put in, Yeah, we do.

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We have another one that I put in there just

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for well, either be Paul or Eric about the possibility

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of Kate Willgrew coming back doing a live action Janeway's

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story similar to what we saw with the cards. So

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we'll also have our fan shout outs and our Star

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01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:43.520
Trek birthdays. So next week's going to be a lot

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of fun, and we're going to have our wonderful video

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by David, So we'll have our slide shows and stuff

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going on, So you guys definitely want to tune in

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for that. Make sure you check out our Facebook page

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and leave a message for Tim Ross. He's going to

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be on the seventeenth, so you got some time come

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up with your question. I just go there to Truck

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Talking dot Com, click on the blue microphone which is

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in the bottom right hand corner, and leave us a

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message and we will play your message for Tim and

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have it answered right here on the podcast. So, guys,

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without any further ado, I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim.

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Just letting everybody know please stay safe and be good

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to each other, and always remember Star Trek fans are

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the best. Paling frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody.

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Hey, y'all, he's not really human.

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He's an alien under that