Dec. 6, 2024

EPISODE 613 STAR TREK LOWER: DECKS- "STAR BASE 80!" AND "OF GODS AND ANGELS" REVIEW

EPISODE 613 STAR TREK LOWER: DECKS- "STAR BASE 80!" AND "OF GODS AND ANGELS" REVIEW

In this episode of Trek Talkin', Uncle Jim and his crew discuss various topics including updates on their Facebook page, fan shout outs, and ethical dilemmas presented in Star Trek episodes. They engage with their audience through poll questions that...

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Star Trek Lower Decks

In this episode of Trek Talkin', Uncle Jim and his crew discuss various topics including updates on their Facebook page, fan shout outs, and ethical dilemmas presented in Star Trek episodes. They engage with their audience through poll questions that explore complex moral issues, such as the sacrifice of a child for the greater good and the autonomy of individuals in life-and-death situations. The conversation also includes references to past episodes and the importance of community engagement in their podcast. In this episode, the hosts delve into the intricacies of the Starbase 80 episode of Lower Decks, discussing fan reactions, character dynamics, and the overall humor and storytelling. They explore the nostalgic elements of the episode, the varied perspectives from fans and hosts alike, and the contrasting opinions on the subsequent episode, 'Gods and Angels.' The conversation highlights the importance of character development and the comedic elements that resonate with the audience, culminating in a comprehensive analysis of the episodes' themes and ratings. In this episode of Trek Talking, the hosts discuss their ratings for the latest Star Trek episode, engage with fans about their opinions, and celebrate the birthdays of notable Star Trek actors. They also remember the contributions of Star Trek legends and share exciting news about upcoming Star Trek projects, including a petition for a Miles O'Brien statue and the discovery of a planet resembling Vulcan.

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penny of make it. So everybody, let's.

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Go about the series.

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Drawing us life of the phone now talking about the series,

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talking about the series compos Me off the phone now

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about the series coming from themselves.

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He sitting Jelly.

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Well.

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Good Evening, Trekkies and Trekkers around the Globe is December fifth,

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twenty twenty four. Welcome to episode six hundred and thirteen

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of trek Talking. I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim,

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and we're about to get started on a brand new adventure.

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But before we get too far, I want to let

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you guys know that our Facebook page should be back

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up and running within a day or two. Facebook has

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this new AI program that goes and arbitrarily looks for

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different phrases, different things, and then immediately shuts that page down.

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We got stuck in that. I talked to Facebook today

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and they said to within twenty four to forty eight

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hours they would have that problem solved and Trek Talking

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would be back up and running. So if you've been

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trying to get a hold of us on our Facebook

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page and you have noticed that there hasn't been any

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posts lately, that's why, and with any luck, within the

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next day or two, that problem will be solved. So

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that's it with my housekeeping. Also, we're going to be

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doing two episodes tonight because with the holidays last week

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and some technical difficulties with blog talk Radio, we were

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on able to do our show as normal, So we're

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going to be doing two episodes tonight, and then from

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this point on we'll go back to our regular one

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episode per show criteria. You can find all of our

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shows at trek Talking dot com. When you go there,

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tell us what you thought. Just say hi, and you

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want to get used to using that blue talkback mic

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because we might be giving out some free prizes to

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people that take advantage of that, and you can do

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be played on the next podcast, So please check that out.

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As of right now, we have twenty four and nineteen

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followers on our Facebook page, so thank you very much

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for that. And I want to go around and introduce

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to you guys to my awesome, my incredible trek Spurts

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and we're going to start out with our very own

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toy guy, Paul. He's out in Portland. How you doing tonight, Paul.

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Hey Jim, I think I'm doing well. How's everything going

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out your way? We're getting used to a new month

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here since we've convened last time, and here we are

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a smack dab in the first part of December, so

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it's pretty surreal, brother, pretty surreal, but good to be here.

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We're getting snow up here, which I guess is pretty cool.

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I'm not ready for it, but it comes whether I'm

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ready or not. So we're having some snow, but that's cool.

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We're going to go get our Christmas tree on Saturday.

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We're gonna go cut it down, get a fresh one.

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So I'm looking forward to that and it's always nice

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when there's a little bit of snow on the ground.

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It makes it festive. So that's what we're going to

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be doing. And also from Portland, we have our very

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own donut guy, David. How you doing tonight, David?

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I'm doing pretty good. I'm super excited about today because

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I can't wait to talk about the next two epishurge.

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Yes, yes, that's going to be fun. It's going to

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be fun for sure. And last but not least, out

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in Portland as well, is everyone?

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Eric?

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How you doing tonight? Eric?

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You know, Jim, I am doing pretty well. I was

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reminiscing about our new system here. The listeners may notice

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that the audio quality is a little bit better. We've

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switched systems here, but still, you know, much like starbas eighty,

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this podcast may not be perfect, but that's why it works, man,

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That's why it worked.

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I would agree. I would agree, and look for some

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look for some upgrades, some changes. We're going to be

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adding some stuff, doing some new things. We're going to

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be doing some videos. We're gonna be We're gonna be

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improving quite a bit, So just stick with us while

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we work out the kinks. With this brand new system.

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But when all is said and done, I think you

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guys are really going to like the final product. And

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last but not least out in Las Vegas, we have

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our very own Charles how you.

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Doing and enjoy a little bit of the cool weather.

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Decided to kind of pull down and warm up just

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a little bit and pol down, but looking forward to

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talking Greek and enjoying our new system from our new studio.

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It's I think it's working out pretty well so far.

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So as I mentioned, guys, we can go to our

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well you can't go there right now, but you will

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be able to go to our Facebook page and every

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week I ask you guys, you know what you thought

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about the show, give us some opinion, tell us give

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it a score, whatnot? And I also ask, hey, where

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are you listening from? Drop us a line, say hello,

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and if you see a heart next to your name

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from yours truly uncle Jim, then you're going to be

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mentioned in a future fan shout out, and that's where

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we say thank you to You guys are fans, so Eric,

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you want to get us started with our fans shout.

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Outsh Jim, I definitely do a very fan shout out

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this week goes out to top fan Samantha Rowana, who

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is from Basingstoke, Hampshire in England and sends us a

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beautiful Union Jack flag celebrating the country and heritage. Samantha,

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thank you so much. Top fan status means that you

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are interacting with us a lot on our Facebook page,

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and you will be once again when it comes back.

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We just really appreciate that and thank you guys for

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your support during us trying to deal with all this.

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AI is breaking us, right, am I wrong? AI is

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breaking us, but we're making our way through it.

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So here we go.

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It's always.

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Like guy that's already taking over you, all right. I

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also say it hello this week to top fan Filimina

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a Rujo, who's saying hello to us from Amsterdam in

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the Netherlands. And I love talking about the Netherlands because

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I love talking about their floating architecture and their levies

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and all the cool stuff that happens below sea level there,

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in addition to all of this stuff that you go

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there for otherwise. So Filmina, thank you so much for

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listening from that beautiful country. Also saying hello this week

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to top fan Reji Segal who's listening from New Delhi

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in India. Regich, we appreciate your support on that continent

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and country of over a billion people. It is just

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unfathomable to me. One day I hope to visit your

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beautiful country and eat some of that food. Man, I

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do love me some Indian food, that is for sure.

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And last but not least, saying hello this week to

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Mark Thompson. Mark Thompson from Aberdeenshire in Scotland. Mark, we

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really appreciate your support as well.

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Brother.

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Thank you so much for listening to the podcast. I'm

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not past this shout out megaphone.

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Let's start over with the top. Dan that welcome. Tell

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mey you was born in California, but up there drigging

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the water ore again. Welcome Jeck Wonder up because I

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know how much is how much I want to try

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that water up in Oregon?

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Because the guys over here just talking about it so much.

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You know, when you're when you're from California and eventually

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you move to Oregon, then you're like, oh, oh, now

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I get it. No, I totally get it.

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Ah from Pennsylvania. Welcome Deborah Elisi and welcome Deborah oh

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and another top than from Canada and tells us to

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live long end prosper. Welcome Patricia Weaver, that's getting CHILEI

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up there in Canada. And then from one.

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Of our.

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Friends of the podcast dates from Kentucky, Welcome Nathan Coates.

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Now's it going, Nathan, And I'm gonna pass the microphone over.

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There and dat it if I'm not too loud. I

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just wanted to say welcome and thank you guys for

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listening and supporting us. First shout out is to Thomas

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Allen Oakley from Waterford, Michigan, USA. Second is a shout

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out to Mike Pellan from Georgia, USA. Third shout out

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is gonna be to Linda Punkin Flimky from South Florida,

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Paul Sponge, United States. And my last shout out goes

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to Larry Budd from Illinois. In a small town with

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big things. Okay, that's interesting, but yeah, thank you all,

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and I'm gonna pass this shout out to Paul.

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Thanks David.

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First of all, top fan Joanne Livingstone says I'm from Belfast,

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Northern Ireland, but I only work in outer space. Great

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to hear from you, Joanne, all the way over there

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in the UK.

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Wonderful to hear from you. Jorge Rivera is saying hello

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to us from Kalao, Peru and it says it's not.

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Going to cheer him up or something like that.

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I think his message got got off somehow, but great

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to hear from you, Jorge Conaconna. Way, we have our

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friend Laden Marquique in Serbia. There a flag displayed prominently

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great to hear for you. And moving back over to

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We're just going all across every ocean. Nothing is in

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any kind of chronological order. We are going back to

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the southern districts here to Osoro, Chile and our friend Raoul,

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the Oz Fernandez land of heavy rains, green grass, rivers, volcanoes,

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lakes and lots of cats. Chile is an incredible place,

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Raoul one of the great wine producing regions on planet.

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At the.

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Gill that's the renowned that they should for their wines.

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But phenomenal, yeah, phenomenal brietals happening down there, So definitely

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a place I aspired to visit.

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That's all I've got.

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I'm gonna switch over to uncle Jim.

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Well, I thank you very much, Paul. I'd like to

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say thank you to top fan Joe Anthony who's listening

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to us in the Big Apple, New York, New York.

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I also want to say thank you for listening to

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Vinnie Eliso who's listening to us in the Bronx in

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New York. I wonder if he knows Ray. They haven't

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heard from Ray in a while, so maybe if Vinnie

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knows Ray, he can go and check out and make

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sure he's okay. Also, I want to say thank you

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to top fan Barbara Montesrio, who's listening to us in

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New York. And last, but not least, we have a

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rising fan, Chris Katish from the United States East Coast

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New England region in the state of Connecticut. You can

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get any more specific than.

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That longitude latitude.

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So yeah. So anyways, these are all of our top

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fans from our Facebook page. And as I said, guys,

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once our Facebook page gets back up, because that evil

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AI gets taken care of, you guys will be You

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will be able to go to our Facebook page and

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get mentioned in a fan shout out yourselves like Arnold swarzenigger,

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I'll be back and we will be. So just be

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patient with us while you're on our Facebook page. Once

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it's up, and running again. I like to ask whole

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questions just to see what the fans are thinking and feeling.

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And you can answer our polls as well, which means

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you know what time it is.

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You know me like no win what you thought about

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the show?

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Then we try.

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To share your opinions with all of oarminions out there

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because they listen world Why so tell us just what

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you think.

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Get together, we will all drink canar and robulin ale.

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All right, how about you get us started with our

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first poll question.

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I'm gonna take this. In the Strange New World's episodes

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episode Lift Uffs, where suffering cannot reach, the Magollans sacrifice

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a child to control their environment and ecosystem. Without the sacrifice,

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their ecosystem will die.

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Do you agree or.

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Disagree with them? Oh, this is a spicy one.

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I have to tell you that's a tough one.

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This is a super spicy one. I think that like Starch,

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I've always said that Star Trek is at its best

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when it asks questions that have no absolute sir, and

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I feel like this is one of them. So the

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question is, you know, did you agree essentially with what

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the the society was doing? You know, sacrificing a child

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to to make the planet work. Twenty seven percent of

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our Facebook poll answers said that they do agree, and

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seventy three percent that said that they disagree. And so

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what I'm seeing here, and I'm not saying I agree

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with or disagree with this, I think we should talk

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about this, But like, what that means is that twenty

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seven percent of the people think that the needs of

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the one outweigh the needs of the many, and that

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seventy three percent think that the needs of the many

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outweigh the needs of the one. That's kind of the

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way I read into that, and I am super curious

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about that, especially given you know that just last night

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I went and saw Star Trek two at the Hollywood

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se here in Portland on the big screen once again,

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you know, seeing spot take care of business at the

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end there and saying that famous line about the needs

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of the many outweighing the needs of the few. I

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don't know, what do you guys think about this? I

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think this is fascinating.

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I think it's the agree.

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I think we need to worry about the one where

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the disagree means to be worried about, not the one

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everybody else.

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Oh yeah, I'm not sure.

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What you just said, Charles, but what But what this

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says is that percent of the people agree that sacrifice

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to do yeah should be Yeah, that's what I said.

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Yeah, So what do you think? What do you think?

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What do you think, Charles? Did they make the right choice?

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I think we're sing a child to stand civilization? I

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think I think it's a bad choice. What if that

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child might be something to help the future, but you're

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going to sacrifice the one child and thinking, okay, that.

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Says the rate for another a few decades, then we

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have to sacrifice another kid because it worth I don't

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understand why we mean, why it's doing to sacrifice one

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person to.

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An issue where I think deciding to figure out what

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their ultimate issue with ultimate problem is why they have.

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HM, well.

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Interesting?

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Yeah, how about you, David, what do you think?

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I don't I'm gonna catch it back and eat my

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don't while you guys dold you.

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But there's no there's no arguing, it's just an opinion.

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There's there's no right and wrong.

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Yeah. I kind of agree with Charles, mainly because what

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if that kid goes up to be the next Captain

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Kircher and change, right, So what if you know? There's

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a lot of if in this question in a way,

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But to me, I think this is kind of a

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disagree on my part, I would rather sacrifice.

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I don't know.

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I mean it's it's a culture. I suppose it's a

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different culture. But yeah, I don't know. I'm kind of

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both on thissh to be honest, I mean, I don't

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want to. I don't want to disrupt the what do

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they call it? The prime directive? But you know, a

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human being, I would have some feeling to say, you know,

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don't do this, kind of like what culture Pipe did.

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But yeah, I kind of would say both on this,

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to be honest.

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Yeah, Captain Pike was pretty upset about that too. So yeah,

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what do you think, Paul, would you would you throw

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your kid? Would you throw your kid in the bucket

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to save the world or not?

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Well, I'm on a different device now I'm hoping the

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audio is maybe.

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Not so wow. Yeah you yes, much better?

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Good On the other one.

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Yeah, I had something stuck up my ass. I had

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to pull it out.

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You know it's me.

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Okay, Yeah, I will just say it can be risky

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to get my opinions on anything that has to do

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with themes of religion. I think that the whole notion

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that a lot of religions across the spectrum like to

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perpetuate is the idea of sacrifice, and I think it

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is uh. You know, basically, you know, from the perspective

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of the let's just say the entity, I won't even

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say the church, but the religious entity, right, the idea

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that you know, what that entity needs is more important

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than what you need. Basically, the body of the religious

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institution is more important than your life.

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And I think that.

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Is incredibly manipulative, and it's been the mindset that a

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lot of hierarchical and yous have used to get what

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they want and get people out of their way and

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take that what's not theirs for many, many, many years.

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So I am against any kind of like sacrifice system

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in any way, shape or form.

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Absolutely, I agree completely. Well, what I would say was

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the woman that was in that episode, that was Captain

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Pike's previous lover, I have to wonder what she would

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have thought if it was her child that was chosen

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to be sacrificed. Because the father in this episode, if

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you guys don't remember, tried to hide the kid and

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save him because he didn't believe in the sacrifice. I

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wonder if the shoe was on the other foot and

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it was her son, how she would have felt, because

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it's it's one thing that when it's a stranger, but

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it's something totally different when it's your loved one. So

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I agree. I think they should find a way to

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get their their their their planet up and running without

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sacrificing a child. There you go.

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Yeah, there's a pretty famous quote that I think is

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misattributed to Gandhi, But it still doesn't mean that it's

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not a good quote. It's something about a civilization being

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measured by how it treats its weakest members, and I

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think you can't. You can't expect people in a civilization

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to rise to their greatest selves when their civilization is

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based on the sacrifice of another. That just is not

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a This doesn't compute, you know. It's that idea of

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like do as I say, not as I do, sort

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of thing.

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Yeah, whatever somebody tells you we know better than you,

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I get suspicious right away.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, So I totally agree with you guys, and I

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agree apparently with most of our listeners here that that

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they were doing the wrong thing there. Sacrifice and the

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kid even though it powered the civilization, even though it

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may have benefited you know, the needs of the many

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may have outweigh the needs of the few. There, But

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when when the needs of the many are based on sacrifice,

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and that colors the way that the many kind of

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view each other and assign value to one another's lives,

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I think that it's a net loss.

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So absolutely absolutely.

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Okay mac ganghiss greatest. Yeah he measured how would treats

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as weak as members?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, all right, Now this next pole question, I had

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actually mentioned it to you guys a couple of shows ago.

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So I'm going to take this next one because well

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because it's Wharf. So in the TNG episode the Enemy, uh,

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the Enterprise rescued an injured Romulent and the only person

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that could save him was Wharf and Captain Picard did

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not order Wharf to give him his blood, and the

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Romulin died. So my question is, did Captain the Card

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make the correct choice and not ordering Wharf to save

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the Romulin's life? And we'll start off with you, what

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do you think, Charles?

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I agree with the banned choice on this one. I

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think it's a personal choice. For Wharf and some of

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the things we've seen about the playing on culture and

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being blood enemies with the Romulins, they don't want anything

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to do with him at.

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That time period. And I can understand their cuse their

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choice true, that being that way.

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True? True? How about you, David, what do you think?

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Did the card make the right choice or not? Sorry?

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Even don't you?

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Yeah?

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I mean I kind of agree a well.

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The idea that ordering somebody against your will is always

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a bad thing in my opinion, So to me, I

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think he may do my choice.

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I kind of agree with the fans.

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Well, all right, where do you think, Paul, Oh, you

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can't expect me to have a calm opinion on this one.

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Two words for your friends. Bodily autonomy, the right to

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make decisions about one's own body, life, and future without

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coercion or violence. I'm looking at you, Supreme Court, and yeah, absolutely,

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it is morally objectionable to coerce another human being to

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do something with their own self that is against their wishes.

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It's wrong.

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People have to be free to make their own decisions

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about their body without the states or any representative of

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the state getting in the way, as soon as you

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move into that realm you are a dictatorship. You've become

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the worst kind of you know, worse than fascism. So yeah,

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it's extremely dangerous.

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So yeah, all right, all right, well what do you think.

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Eric agree with Trexperts? Can we start calling al.

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Thank you?

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Eight of twenty one?

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Well, you know, so, I think that you have to

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look at the situation that that's presented here, because that

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Romulin saving that Romulin's life could have prevented a war

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which would have cost the lives of millions.

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And the same question as the first one, right.

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But we know how this one ended because we all

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saw the episode, so.

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You know, it's a little bit of a cheap but

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like you know, yeah, we.

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Saw the episode, so we know that the war was

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averted anyways, But at the point, at that point in time,

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not knowing how the Romulans would react to their officer

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dying at the hands of the Federation, does that change

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the out? Does that change it? You know, should warf

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have set aside his personal hatred of the Romulans to

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prevent the war or.

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Yes, he should have, but it is not Pecard's right

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to order him to.

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Do that, and he did tell Picard, he said, if

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you order me to do it, I will obey your order.

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And so you know, Peicard didn't and the dude died

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and luckily there was no war. So yeah, this is

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one of those ones. And of course the romulant was

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a bit of a dick too, if you remember, he

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didn't want any of that kling On filth flowing through

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his veins anyway, so he deserved to die. He was

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an idiot. And you know, when I remember watching that,

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I kept saying to I, Sailf, you know what, if

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I was Warf, I would have done it just to

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pissed the guy off. I would be like, you know what,

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the Klingon filth is in your blood now, So there

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deal with that dude. But yeah, I agree. I think

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the cards a pretty sharp marble, and he, you know,

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he knows what's what. I think he made the right choice.

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Now let's see what all of our truck sports agree.

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So let's see what our fans on our Facebook page said.

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Five percent of the fans said no, that Picards should

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have ordered him to give the blood, which meant ninety

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five percent of our Facebook fans agreed with the trekxperts

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and said, yes, Picard made the right choice. So there

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you have it. So let's tune into our Facebook page

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for next week's polls, assuming that the AI gets everything

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back up and running by Saturday, like they told me,

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there'll be some new polls up on there. Now, this

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is the part of the show where we do our

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cadet training and unfortunately I don't have I don't have

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a cadet training song because I couldn't get it off of.

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No let's seen it so oh my god, there were

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it was like twenty samples or like yeah, like I

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know it ends with black Alert, Black Alert.

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I guess you know.

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The last song that Eric came up with for like

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the polls thing was so great. I think this is

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just the other we have a new era. Now that's

476
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.359
a I think Eric should write a new one, man

477
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:40.720
if you if your game, because I think I would

478
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.119
totally do that. I think it's a good segment. It

479
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.599
could benefit from having a good theme song, so you know, I.

480
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.119
Love it all right, So I guess played a triple

481
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.799
song and then we can the.

482
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.680
Only the only one I have is this one right here.

483
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.640
It's all that's all I have. Why isn't it working.

484
00:27:58.880 --> 00:27:59.799
Why isn't it working?

485
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:01.720
Oh no, I don't.

486
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.160
Technical difficult. There we go.

487
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:13.599
That was so good.

488
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.920
Your culture will adapt to resistance.

489
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.720
I love everything.

490
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.359
So Eric, we come up with a better theme song.

491
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:29.920
Agree, West traxperience.

492
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.319
All of our stuff on blog talk radio is gone,

493
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.440
so I can't get it. So this is the part

494
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.720
of the show where Charles goes back and does some

495
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.960
cadet training, and this is where he fills you in

496
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.640
on little things in these episodes that you can go

497
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.079
and watch other episodes to tie into it. So Charles

498
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:50.480
take it away.

499
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:56.200
And Eric, that's down by Jim should have that's news, okay.

500
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:02.200
Definitely at the beginning of the ATOS, so the decontamination

501
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:07.839
chamber and the dell all from Enterprise. A lot of

502
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:14.839
look in the old uniform from Enterprise, even from Enterprise

503
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:22.519
and Enterprise all right, good reference to TOS and the

504
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.599
Enterprise style turbolip.

505
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:26.960
With the handles.

506
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:31.039
We also saw a lot of Deo with clothing, expecially

507
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:32.880
some used clothing.

508
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:35.480
TG.

509
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.440
I didn't think price this season four, episode eighteen, a

510
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:48.720
Dana alterning, Yeah, Titanian parasite could infects Jorian Laford the

511
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:54.000
same as they've done during this episode. Of course we

512
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:58.559
go to tang and for cards where we have our

513
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:03.599
favorite guidance. Yeah, yeah, being knock, it's all been Allurian.

514
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.359
I thought that was a good, very nice reference to

515
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:13.440
Guynan and of course at the enterprise with grab plating,

516
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:17.680
because that's what they were using before they were using

517
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:26.359
their shields. Under a second one, of course, go definitely

518
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:32.920
to kill her lorns for a Donna's season two episode two,

519
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.480
that's where Apollo Is mentioned the episode that's where we're

520
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.960
going to follow and had her father.

521
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.000
References to Dickton Hill by Mariner.

522
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.279
Oh it is such a Dixon Hill, Like such a

523
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:56.160
Dickton Hill reference, she says, and then two references for

524
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:02.359
the out regulars Oconna season two episode or don't know

525
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:07.559
if anybody caught this, but Quinn Letters makes the comment,

526
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:12.880
oh is it such a oh you're such a.

527
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:16.119
A Ronald being lore Line.

528
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:25.079
We're referencing the comedian joke Biscopope played which the character

529
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.480
on there was ron would Ronald's be more?

530
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:31.759
And there was a reference to one of the people

531
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.920
who worked on Star Trek at that time. And what

532
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.119
I kind of threw when they're at the end is

533
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:42.079
these two how that episode ended so much?

534
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:46.319
Reminding me of the radius of Hanna since where they're

535
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:49.240
kind of two largers are trying to run away because they.

536
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:53.279
Know their families cannot deal with who they are.

537
00:31:54.880 --> 00:32:02.960
Being able to associate with the other side.

538
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:09.200
All right, So, Eric, what did our Facebook fans have

539
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.720
to say about star Bas eighty?

540
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.960
Ooh okay, star Bas eighty on a scale of one

541
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:17.839
to ten, we don't have a lot of number. Well,

542
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:19.680
we have a number. We have an amalgamation at the

543
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:21.880
end here, So I'll just kind of read the comments here.

544
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.480
Scott Owden, a top contributor on our Facebook page, said,

545
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.079
the dcon booth with horny gel and all and then

546
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.119
a crying happy face. Lots of laughing there, thanks Scott,

547
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:40.039
Tyler Blackwell as our all Star contributors said mayor Bear.

548
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.240
So after all this time, we learned Boemler has a

549
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:48.599
cutesy name for Mariner. Oh Eddie Pasa said, I hope

550
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:52.119
my bosses see it that way. They can be real dicks.

551
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.079
Every season they are one or two. I don't like

552
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.240
so much, but I'll rewatch multiple times and enjoy anyway,

553
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.400
because this show rocks. This one is one of them,

554
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.119
but this was a classic line. Mike Bartel said, finally

555
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.160
we get to see Freeman in her underwear.

556
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:07.799
Haha.

557
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.000
We also get to see Freeman and mahor Mahriner come

558
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.839
to terms with their personal issues about Starbas eighty in

559
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:18.359
their own ways. Tyler Slade Homer said, loved the episode.

560
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.480
I'm also glad that the Enterprise uniforms are used as

561
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:26.559
regular uniforms of the Berman era shows. Those uniforms were

562
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:31.920
my Favoriteschad lives to Dog another Day, kisses corn Dog.

563
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:40.200
I love that moment. Tyler, Well, such a funny line. Yeah, thanks, Tyler.

564
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:45.039
Zachary Finkenstein said my second favorite so far this season,

565
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:48.319
right below the Klingon one. I like SB eighties. Doctor

566
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:54.079
Rich Smith said absolutely fantastic episode. Rob Writing said I

567
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.319
watched twice just for Nicole Byer. She was a joy

568
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.160
in this. Jen Simon literally laughed out loud at the

569
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:06.400
Paul reference, and Ralph Debacco said, we need live action

570
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.639
lower decks. This gives us, you guys a fan scorer

571
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.280
this week for this episode of eight point five and

572
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.840
eight point five I would say is extremely respectable.

573
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:19.760
It's right up there.

574
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.840
Yeah, it's it's right up there. So let's see, Charles,

575
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.159
you want to jump in and talk about Star Base

576
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:31.239
eighty as I get what's going on?

577
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.000
Oh there there is See, I got the mute buttons

578
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:43.800
a lot of interesting things on this one. I love

579
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.400
the fact that it's.

580
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:52.000
A older star Baying and they're still back in the

581
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:59.079
Enterprise era. They have been upgraded to newer upgrade, so

582
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:03.960
it's an older Starby and the Federation.

583
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:08.559
Just left it alone. Left and Bate got it interesting

584
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.199
that the commander kind of gave me a feel of.

585
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:19.320
Oh, she's a commander, just like Cisco was a commander.

586
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:24.320
They don't put a captain on a Starby, they put

587
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:29.199
a commander on the Starbay.

588
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.920
Well, in Charles, she you're correct. She had three pips,

589
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:34.760
so she definitely was a commander. But do you remember

590
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:42.679
how she introduced herself. She introduced herself as a diplomatic liaison. Ah,

591
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:47.000
so she did not call herself commander. She called herself diplomatically.

592
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:57.159
She had three pips, So yeah, you're absolutely yeah.

593
00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:00.360
Uh, trying to think in my note, definitely a lot

594
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.840
of callback to Enterprise because the Enterprise era.

595
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:06.920
I do like some of the callback to it.

596
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.880
I like the fact that Okay, they're going on board

597
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:15.760
the ship and they got to put on the decontamination Jim.

598
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.800
It's like, okay, oh, we got to go back to

599
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:23.320
the show. No, Pat Paul will enjoy lathering up.

600
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:35.800
So it was muffled as another commander did, uh, interesting

601
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:40.119
is to some of the Coos uniforms.

602
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:50.039
In the trade center a latch if the factor was

603
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:54.239
Allurian or just Passio. And I do like the fact

604
00:36:54.280 --> 00:37:01.280
that we've never really dealt with an Allurrian other than Guy,

605
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:02.039
other than.

606
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.239
The two forms we've seen Guynan, but we always talked

607
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:11.320
about the Illyrian and TG and it's like, okay, yeah,

608
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.440
I think this isn't one of the tie ins that

609
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:17.760
we needed a woman. But she definitely is nowhere near

610
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.559
as old as Guynan that she both so I'm only thirty.

611
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:27.679
Okay there, but you've still got a lot you got

612
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:28.760
to pay attention. Attention.

613
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.480
I thought there's an interesting long in mystery, the visiting

614
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:44.320
the researching of the oceanic planet and picking up something

615
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:47.800
from there that we have to figure out.

616
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.719
But that was an saying way of doing it.

617
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:54.880
Arabic turned to Zombie and it's like, yes, but onely

618
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.679
the ship crew, and I love when they look at

619
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.320
the wait a minute, why is the fish to not

620
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.639
affected and realizing well, we don't ut com badges.

621
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:10.880
Oh yeah, com badges.

622
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:15.199
With a TNG era issues, you know.

623
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:22.199
Not back and the older ship. Of course we get

624
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:36.519
nice full revisit the citation facation again and let's see

625
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:37.559
this episode.

626
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:40.400
I know we should chat a little bit about this

627
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:44.159
last time. I can't work what I gave it, but

628
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.239
I'm gonna give this one eight. I enjoyed myself. They

629
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:49.800
put down a little better, but I still enjoyed myself.

630
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.800
Excellent. We got an eight from Charles. All right, how

631
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.159
about you, Eric, what do you think about Star Base

632
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.039
eighty Ooh?

633
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.159
You know, I have to say, I actually really enjoyed

634
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.000
this episode. I know that it's a little bit tropy

635
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.559
to like fall into the zombie thing. I feel like

636
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.840
Lower Dex has done the zombie thing at least one

637
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.280
other time, if not two other times, so I get

638
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.639
that the zombie thing is kind of a little bit

639
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.480
played out. I did like the twist on it here

640
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:27.960
with it being sort of through the technology, and I

641
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:32.280
did like the Cassie Knock's character. I mean, she was

642
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:37.800
a little bit. She was sort of so happy, go

643
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.880
lucky and positive that you were always expecting her to

644
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.039
kind of turn to evil, and I like that she

645
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:49.119
sort of didn't. I don't know's she was an uncomfortable

646
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:51.199
character to watch, and yet at the end I sort

647
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:58.880
of liked her overall. I liked how Mariner just was

648
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.760
completely freaked out of about the place. There was that

649
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:06.039
one line where Cassius says something like it grows on you,

650
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:11.679
Mariner was like like a fungus. That was one of

651
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:14.400
the best lines. But you know, we didn't even learn

652
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:18.239
about the zombie thing until almost halfway through the episode.

653
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:22.639
There were there were, you know, suggestions of it, but

654
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:26.239
it wasn't really confirmed as a as a sort of

655
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.480
zombie virus ish thing, so till halfway through the episode

656
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.320
didn't it didn't take it over for me in other words,

657
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.840
So yeah, I thought it was funny. I thought the

658
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:41.920
jokes were pretty good. I liked the idea that everybody

659
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.360
was afraid, of course, of this starbus eeded place, and

660
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.360
yet it turns out it's just it's just another place

661
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.639
for scrappy underdogs, just like the critos.

662
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.079
So the b.

663
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.400
Story with Freeman and Ransom and the engineer was kind

664
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.960
of weak. I think, like the zombie story was pretty

665
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:04.760
funny and had some good jokes and stuff. The other

666
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.239
story was kind of like, Eh, I don't really know

667
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:11.239
if I enjoyed it that much. It sort of felt

668
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:12.960
like they were just sort of running around the ship

669
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:18.559
and I don't know, not much happened. So so overall

670
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:22.199
I enjoyed the episode. It did not knock my socks off.

671
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:26.199
So I'm gonna give this episode a seven.

672
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.480
All right, we have an eight, we have a seven.

673
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.760
How about you, David, what do you think? Yeah, spill

674
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:34.480
your beans.

675
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:40.960
Okay, I really enjoyed this episode, but not as much

676
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.119
as I thought I would enjoy it. To be honest,

677
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.000
it was a little trophy I do agree with out

678
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.119
there where they did the whole down beuteing. Luckily it

679
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.039
wasn't throughout the entire episode. I'm like what Oak said,

680
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.320
it white only halfway through. But however, I did really

681
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:02.599
enjoy that whole decontamination. But where uh the first officer

682
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:04.639
was just like, oh yeah.

683
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.199
It's just well well, And the thing the best thing

684
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.119
about it, David, that I forgot to mention was that

685
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.199
so throughout the whole episode, Ransom's talking about the gel right,

686
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.280
like he puts it under his lip to just smell

687
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:18.599
it sometimes. But then at the end it actually becomes

688
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:20.960
useful because he pulls the guy out of the tube

689
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:22.119
because he's got some gel.

690
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:29.320
Yeah, yeah, it was It was pretty interesting. The only

691
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:33.280
thing I didn't really like was the shide question with

692
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:37.880
the Captain Freeman. I didn't like the fact that she

693
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:41.639
had to go hunting for bat because apparently the engineer

694
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:46.559
was like throwing him through all sorts of like long way.

695
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:49.119
She'd get to a shorten area, so he was just

696
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.480
like some sort of crazy engineer that was just like

697
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.199
giving him all the wrong direction. Enginet, he just popped

698
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.039
up there like he hike the short kind of something

699
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.800
you should all around me and in my book. But yeah,

700
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.039
that whole idea with Captain Freeman, which.

701
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:07.400
Is kind of a little weird.

702
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:13.440
But yeah, I did like how Mana was reacting to

703
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:16.360
the whole situations like she's been there before and I

704
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.760
think she has right, Is that correct?

705
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.559
Yeah, she spent some time on Starbay CD they talked about.

706
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:25.519
Okay, yeah, that's what I thought.

707
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.840
Okay, so I mean the idea that she was just

708
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.039
like panicking throughout the entire episode was kind of fine,

709
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.400
and I don't know, I mean, it was pretty interesting.

710
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.000
It's been a while steat of chance, so I'm trying

711
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.599
to remember a lot of different changes out of the

712
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.760
top of my head. But I was actually gonna score

713
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:46.280
this the shame number that ercord before he even mentioned it,

714
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.119
and I was gonna say, yeah, I'm going to seven.

715
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:51.079
And when you mentioned I was like, oh, okay, so yeah,

716
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:52.039
I'm gonna go to seven.

717
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:57.119
Okay, we have an eight, A seven, a seven, And

718
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:02.000
I'll jump in here next and say, you know, yeah.

719
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:05.079
I watched this episode three times, but not because I

720
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.000
liked it. I watched it the first time and I

721
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:11.239
was in su I was stunned, like what did I

722
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.440
just watch? And then I had to go back and

723
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.639
watch it a second time just to make sure that

724
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.639
what I actually saw I really saw. And then because

725
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:22.000
I don't like to be mister negativity and I always

726
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.920
like to find positive things to say, I had to

727
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.760
go back and watch it a third time so that

728
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:31.920
I could find some good things to say. Oh my god,

729
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:36.760
So here's Jim saying good stuff. All right. So, first

730
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.440
of all, I don't know if you guys noticed or not,

731
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.480
but there was a really heavy Aliens theme song vibe

732
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.599
going on here. When they first get to Star Base eighty.

733
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.480
The song that they play sounds reminded me so much

734
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.239
of when the Imperial Marines or the Colonial Moraines landed

735
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.599
on LV four two six and they're going up to

736
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.320
the doors and they're Hudson opens the doors had that

737
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.000
alien vibe to it, and the more I watched it,

738
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.039
every time they were in the station, they played that

739
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:11.559
same music cue and it reminded me of Aliens. So

740
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.440
I thought that was cool. That's a plus from me.

741
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.960
I also kind of I kind of giggled when Boimler said, Hey,

742
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:21.920
I'm to palling it all up here. I thought that

743
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:25.800
was funny. I laughed at that. One Another thing that

744
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:29.000
that I laughed at that I thought was funny is

745
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.199
when Tendy is looking at the uniforms and she says, oh,

746
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.840
there are vintage uniforms. How did you get him without

747
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.639
a replicator? And the guy says, oh, they're the uniforms

748
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:41.559
of long dead officers. Oh, all right, and then Tendy says, oh,

749
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.119
so they're real vintage. I thought that was cool. I

750
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:48.159
also I don't know if anyone noticed, but when the

751
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:50.920
engineer was in the arcade, he was playing a game

752
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:55.119
called Romulin Invaders, and on the screen I paused the

753
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.559
screen so I could get get it right. We had

754
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:02.239
a Romulin Valdor ship at the bottom running back and

755
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:06.800
forth shooting down Enterprise a Constitution class starships that were

756
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.599
acting as the aliens invading. I thought that was cool,

757
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:15.119
nice little touch, So kudos on that one. And last,

758
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:18.880
but but but definitely not least, the best line of all,

759
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.159
the one that that's just the coup de'ta of lines,

760
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.719
was bosses can be real dicks. How could you not

761
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.239
love that line? It's so true. So those are the things,

762
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.239
the good things that I picked out of this episode.

763
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:38.400
But overall, I don't find myself suffering through this episode.

764
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:42.679
A fourth time three was enough for me. So you

765
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:46.280
know I'm gonna go with this is a tough one.

766
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.559
I'm gonna go with a five five point one, five

767
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.000
point one. Okay, I'm gonna go with a five point

768
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.639
one because I know Paul loves those decimals, So I'm

769
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.840
gonna go with a five point one on this one.

770
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.519
And with I'll turn it over to.

771
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:03.800
Paulanks, Uncle Jim, I appreciate it.

772
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:04.039
Man.

773
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:06.519
So there were two episodes that we're going to talk

774
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:08.800
about this week, and one of them I really liked.

775
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:17.880
This is not that episode. This comedy is very subjective, right,

776
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.760
And what makes one person laugh really really hard and

777
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:26.119
that they enjoy the other person may find incredibly tedious

778
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:29.920
and painful to endure. Doesn't mean that either of them

779
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.320
are wrong, right. It just means that that's not the

780
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:37.280
particular flavor of ice cream for that person, right, Everybody

781
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.960
has different tastes. I thought this episode was just.

782
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:43.000
Terrible.

783
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:47.480
It was awful. Sorry, writer may Darman and director of

784
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:52.119
Bob Suarez, but this was just really tedious and and

785
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.840
just the the you came up with a zombie episode

786
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.280
that was what you pitched. And and as I think

787
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.719
Eric said before, we've seen this before on at least

788
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:04.760
more than one occasion, but I don't think we've seen

789
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.440
it in such an unentertaining, numbing way. I mean, this

790
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.280
was just really tough for me to sit through.

791
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:11.920
I really.

792
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.320
I mean, Charles is already you know, cadet training, all

793
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:18.239
the references blah blah blah blah blah. Right, and I've

794
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:23.400
said it before references and recognitions are not storytelling because I, oh,

795
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:26.960
I recognize gel. Okay, that is not a that is

796
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:31.360
not you know, a mark of storytelling. I recognize these aliens.

797
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:33.800
That does not mean that there was good writing at

798
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:39.599
work here. Okay, there's just recognition and is that seems

799
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:41.719
to be what they rely on with this show rather

800
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:42.920
than having good.

801
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:44.079
Good screenwriting.

802
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:49.559
So really tedious waste of time. Jim was saying, well, okay,

803
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:51.280
we should try to come up with something good to

804
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:51.840
say about it.

805
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:52.239
All right.

806
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.159
The running time of this episode was twenty five minutes.

807
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:57.719
A really good thing is it wasn't twenty six minutes.

808
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.719
That's my positive thing to say about Recking Star bas eighty.

809
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.199
That sucked twenty five minutes out of my life. I

810
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.920
will never get back. And uh and it was just terrible.

811
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:11.599
So that's all I have to say about it. I'd

812
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.400
rather save most of my oxygen for h the next

813
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:16.920
review I would give this, and I'm being generous afore.

814
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:23.519
Okay, there we have it. The trucks Spurts have spoken, Charles,

815
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.920
how do we compare to our Facebook fans?

816
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:28.960
Well? With our hold on.

817
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.960
Just walked right across my keyboard and took away on

818
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:45.760
my notes. Okay, the way the gave this an eight

819
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:50.559
point gave it at six point two.

820
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.960
Wow, and this is where the next day.

821
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:03.639
Yeah, I think I'm a fan. That's a pretty low score.

822
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.679
All right, Okay, well there you have it, guys. That's

823
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:11.000
the Trek Spurts versus our Facebook fans and Eric. What

824
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:14.719
did our fans have to say about gods and angels?

825
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.239
Well, Jim isaac leels that Mariner has matured so much

826
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.519
over the theories, it was good to be shown someone

827
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:28.599
so similar to really highlight how far she's come. Eddie

828
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:33.039
Pasa said a few things. One love the Ronald B.

829
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:38.639
Moore reference. Two, She'll be one with the wind just

830
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:42.360
like her papa from this point forward. This episode had me.

831
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.800
Rich Smith, a All Star contributor, said, I realized that

832
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.000
some stories this season were written before the show was canceled,

833
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.440
but having episodes that focus on a new crew member

834
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:57.679
takes away precious screen time from our beloved crew Sbaight

835
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.360
did it right last week, perfect balance of Mariner and

836
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.760
Company with characters other than the main cast. Also, SB

837
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:09.079
eighty was funny as hell. This episode not so much.

838
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.360
Alexis Gorman said Rutherford and Tendee. Noticing the bevil being

839
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.679
deeper on all the universe pads instead of the color

840
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:21.159
of it was hilarious to me. It's just so in

841
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:26.360
character for them completely agree with you, Alexis halk Fisher said,

842
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:29.239
gotta admit for a moment, I felt she was like

843
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:33.000
that really dumbass and sign Fletcher who messed the secondary

844
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:36.719
computer cor in season one. Good on Mariner to show

845
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:41.719
her growth and pay it forward. Love this show, Eddie

846
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.920
Passa said, regarding Boemler's surgery, I cannot help but think

847
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.960
of Samuel L. Jackson in die Hard with a Vengeance saying,

848
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:53.639
Zeus as in Father of Apollo Mount Olympus, don't f

849
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:56.800
with me, or I'll shove a lightning bolt up your ass. Zeus,

850
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:00.119
you got a problem with that? Thanks, Eddie. Add or

851
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:01.760
A witt And said, I think it's so cool that

852
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.079
they have the JG's mentoring new ensigns. They introduced some

853
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:10.239
new ones over the last couple of seasons Hubbard, Taylor, Livick,

854
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.880
et cetera. And there's gotta be some good shenanigans to

855
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:19.039
be had there, and yeah, there you go. We have

856
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.239
a fans score of this one. You guys, despite the

857
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:26.719
positivity of all of these, of all of these comments,

858
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:28.760
the fans score is only a six point six on

859
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:34.320
this one. So in terms of like where we are

860
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:39.360
on the overall season, six point six is absolute rock bottom.

861
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.199
Shades of Green was a seven point five from our fans,

862
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:47.199
so this is pretty far below that. So yeah, there

863
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:48.599
you are, all right, but the fans think.

864
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.800
Let's go on reverse and we'll start off with Paul

865
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:52.400
this time.

866
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.559
All right, thanks. I actually just watched this episode today,

867
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:59.519
so it's pretty fresh in my brain. I just in

868
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.960
terms of like the overall tone, right, and just did

869
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:05.400
I enjoy this? Was this lighthearted?

870
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:06.760
Was it? You know?

871
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:10.800
Fairly clever? Was it was the storytelling a little bit

872
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.519
you know, more precise and not just relying on shit

873
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:17.360
we've seen a million times before ad nauseum. For me,

874
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:20.559
this was a breath of fresh air compared to Star

875
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:21.639
Base eighty R.

876
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:21.880
Yeah.

877
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.559
I don't think it was perfect by any stretch of

878
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.039
the imagination, but I enjoyed it. I think, just right

879
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.960
out of the gate, how many different, you know, non

880
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.679
corporeal entities that we've seen over the course of you know,

881
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.960
a jillion different franchise iterations of star Trek, right, and

882
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:40.719
this just was sort of like, you know, boiling it

883
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:49.599
down to its you know, most preposterous, just crucible, right,

884
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.159
I mean, spheres and cubes and we hate each other.

885
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.159
You're around and you're angular, and.

886
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:55.639
It's just just the fact that I mean, it was

887
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.559
just preposterous, right. It was just and you know, they

888
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:02.199
had a lot of fun with naming the various you know,

889
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:08.760
geometric characters. Quadrillon's just hilarious, I thought. And and it

890
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:11.679
looks like it's gonna be a murder mystery and all that,

891
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:13.599
and then you know, we find out at the end

892
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.039
that it's a it's a it's an our forbidden love

893
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:21.360
a thing all the time that nobody was murdered. It

894
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.920
was kind of a Romeo and Juliet thing, right, and

895
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:25.960
uh and that ends up being the past the path

896
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:29.119
to peace because there. But they had a lot of

897
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:34.400
fun with the round it around you know things versus

898
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.079
the sharp edges, and I just thought that was fairly funny.

899
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:41.719
I also really enjoy anything with Doctor to Anna is

900
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:44.599
just great. I thought the whole thing of you know, boy,

901
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:47.280
we're trying to get into her good graces was hilarious.

902
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:49.199
And then she when the scene where she just loses

903
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:53.320
her ship and just like rips into him was just hilarious.

904
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.239
You know, what a great character.

905
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.480
I just love her. I think she's just a scream.

906
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:03.480
Agree with the one fan who said, hey, you know,

907
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:06.480
is this really the time to be introducing a new character,

908
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:13.119
right with Ali, who I'm assuming is Greek shorthand for Olympia.

909
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.280
Perhaps if she's Zeus's daughter, just a guest, but I

910
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:19.000
don't think they ever told us, but that would be

911
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:23.159
my guess. But I thought she was kind of obnoxious, right,

912
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:26.440
and she an obnoxious character is okay if they eventually

913
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:30.280
become charming and you come to find something to be

914
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:35.039
affectionate towards them about. That never happened with her, so

915
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.519
I thought she was pretty much obnoxious the whole time,

916
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:39.880
and kind of like, okay, can we move on to

917
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.679
other characters who are more interesting, like doctor.

918
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:44.679
Tanna for example.

919
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:50.039
So yeah, I think because of all that, but still

920
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.920
on the whole I laughed really hard a lot with

921
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:56.480
this the mostly because of the I think the the

922
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.000
you know, the stick we've seen before of like you know,

923
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:03.159
them having to play uh, you know neutral Sweden to

924
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:06.760
two warring you know, areas and try to create peace

925
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.239
out and you know, disarm the war and you know,

926
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:15.960
helped create a you know you stability and the cosmos,

927
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:19.039
if you will. So I thought they were just hilarious.

928
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:21.599
I mean again, all the geometric puns and things were

929
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:24.840
pretty funny. I thought that was really great, really good,

930
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.920
and tired of boy, we're having the whole season be

931
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.920
like his facial hair is if you I'm going to

932
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.599
use air quotes for facial hair here. It's getting it

933
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:37.559
just a tiny little bit longer every episode. It's like, man,

934
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.760
I'm done, I'm I'm really that's that's not funny, and

935
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.039
it's it's really not funny, and it's especially nod funny now,

936
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.199
so yeah, you know, not perfect. And again, like you know,

937
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.840
it's the whole thing where when the uh, when the

938
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.480
spheres and the cubes start really fighting, I mean, there

939
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:57.599
is so much destruction to the Serrito, so I can't

940
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:01.639
even believe that it's in one piece. And it's just

941
00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:04.800
even for a comedy, it strains suspension of disbelief because

942
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.440
that ship would be in dry dock for years to

943
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:12.000
repair all that nonsense, right, years, So a little silly

944
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:13.519
I mean, it's just again, you know.

945
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.239
I mean, you can kind of.

946
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:18.840
You get away with a lot in comedy, but as

947
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.840
soon as you start suspending this belief, it's kind of over.

948
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.599
But on the whole, I really enjoyed this a lot more.

949
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:27.760
I think it benefits from following Starbus eighty, which for

950
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:30.800
me is like one of the worst episodes ever have

951
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:32.920
lower deck. Sorry all you guys who loved it. I mean,

952
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.119
I don't get it. I wish I did. I wish

953
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:40.000
somehow I did. I just don't see what you see, right,

954
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.320
But this was funny to me, and I mostly enjoyed it,

955
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:44.719
though I could have done with a lot less of

956
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:49.639
the whole idea of a Demi goddess joining Starfleet it

957
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:53.920
seems just kind of ridiculous. It's like sometimes somebody pitches

958
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:55.920
an idea in the writer's room and it's okay to

959
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.480
tell them, no, that's not a great idea. So you

960
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:03.280
wish you had curves like this, you pointy freak. I

961
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:05.440
just thought that was funny, So I would give this

962
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.880
episode of seven I think is about appropriate. I think

963
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:11.119
that's kind of right in the midsection there, certainly better

964
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:12.880
than a lot of them have been. This season. So

965
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:14.320
seven feels good to me.

966
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:19.960
And uh, that's it all right. So of God's and angels,

967
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:20.559
so you know.

968
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:24.000
God's an angles man, that's the pot because it's geometry.

969
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:28.400
I'm kind of with not angel angles angles man. I'm

970
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:32.360
I'm kind of with Paul on this one. Actually. Yeah.

971
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:36.840
I liked it a lot better than Starbaks eighty obviously, so

972
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:40.840
what I you know, Boimler has a Kirk Spock and

973
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.840
Data action figure in his quarters. Now, come on. I

974
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:45.000
thought of Paul right away.

975
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:48.119
I thought that was pretty funny too. That was that

976
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:49.880
was a nice little bit, and it's just kind of

977
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:51.559
there in the background. They didn't have to point out

978
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.360
to make a big things, and I thought.

979
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.320
I paused it to make sure I was seeing what.

980
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:57.960
I'm like, Oh my god, he's got action figures. And

981
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.920
I thought that was great because hey, we're Star Trek fans.

982
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:05.000
We all have action figures. So that that made me chuckle.

983
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:07.840
I thought that was funny, you know. And something else,

984
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.760
this Ali character. I really liked her, And what I

985
00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:16.119
really liked about her is that the the artists drew

986
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:21.119
her thick and you guys might not. She's she doesn't

987
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:25.559
have that hour glass shape that every other female character

988
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.800
on the show has. They drew her thick, and I

989
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:35.039
really thought that that was great because she wasn't the

990
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.920
cookie cutter confirmation with every other female character on the ship.

991
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.239
She was thicker than they were. And when you watch

992
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.880
the episode, you'll you'll know what I'm talking about. And

993
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.599
I thought that was that was great that they did that.

994
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.480
I also thought it was great that taw Guy was

995
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.039
back again. I don't know if you guys noticed or not,

996
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:57.639
but when Ali's late for her appointment with Boimler or

997
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:01.199
with Beckett, she come running down the hallway and she

998
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:03.559
knocks towl Guy down and he's laying on the floor.

999
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:07.519
And two Guy is in every episode somewhere in the background.

1000
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:10.800
He was in this one too. Another thing that I

1001
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:13.599
thought was great, And this is something that we've talked

1002
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:16.599
about in the past, and I'm probably gonna say this wrong,

1003
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:20.719
but we saw not one but two characters wearing a

1004
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:28.400
hijib hijib. Yes. Yes, the fact that they actually put

1005
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.320
it not one but two characters in the episode was

1006
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:38.840
absolutely thumbs up. Outstanding way to go, guys. Representations important

1007
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:41.320
and star Trek and I caught that and thought it

1008
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:45.159
definitely needed to be mentioned. I also thought it was

1009
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:48.800
great when at the end when Freeman says, nake it.

1010
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:53.679
So I'm like, cool, she watches TG. That was great.

1011
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:59.440
And obviously I have to mention Boimler's nickname from t

1012
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.920
you guys remember what it was? Oh? Yeah, yeah, so

1013
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.400
I was like, wow, he's fuck. Oh. I thought that

1014
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.840
was great. So yeah, overall, I really enjoyed this episode

1015
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:15.280
much much better than starbas eighty and so overall, I'm

1016
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:17.559
gonna go with an eight on this one. Eight point

1017
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:21.599
one just because I know Paul loves the decimals. They're

1018
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.360
so precise. Yeah, yeah, I gotta throw at eight point.

1019
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:30.039
One Angler you wish you had curves like these.

1020
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:35.880
Exactly, all right, So that means we're gonna jump over

1021
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:36.719
to David.

1022
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:43.440
Oh okay cool. So yeah, this particular episode, I thought

1023
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:48.000
it was interesting with the whole cubes and squares and everything.

1024
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:52.440
So I thought it was Uh. I thought it was

1025
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.639
kind of already done because I thought for some reason

1026
01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:57.960
that they did an episode like this in the past,

1027
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.039
maybe not this series, but in an other show. Maybe

1028
01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:04.320
I might be mistaken, but but yeah, so to me,

1029
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:11.000
I'm trying to remember the name of the child that

1030
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:13.599
the square in the circle had, do you guys remember.

1031
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:20.559
Uh yeah, it was square squaring squaring. Yeah, it was

1032
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:25.440
like s q Aaron, Yeah, because he had the a

1033
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:26.840
round bottom and a square top.

1034
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:32.119
Okay, okay, yeah, So to me, I I thought.

1035
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:33.239
That was pretty funny.

1036
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.119
I'm ix still here. Actually didn't bumped my head. Shut

1037
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:37.679
off my head.

1038
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.480
You just picked the nominee for the Secretary of Defense

1039
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:45.000
out of the running. Good job, David, just that one move.

1040
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:47.519
That's ALLID takes.

1041
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.519
But yeah, uh this Eperjode was pretty fine. I did

1042
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:54.119
like the motor mystery put. I actually thought I was

1043
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:58.199
hoping for an actual motor mystery. Actually enjoyed motor mystery movies,

1044
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.599
and I was kind of thinking ahead. I was like, okay,

1045
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:05.480
so this must have to have been some sort of

1046
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:09.880
mishap between the squares and the circles. And for some

1047
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:13.119
reason it flew over me with that whole tablet thing.

1048
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:16.119
I didn't realize that's that's what they were looking for,

1049
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:18.840
and I'm like, I got a little confused, and so

1050
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.599
I had to rewatch it the second time, and I

1051
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:24.480
was like, oh, okay, I get it now. So but yeah,

1052
01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:28.159
to me, I enjoyed this episode a lot, even though

1053
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.320
it wasn't really a motor mystery. But I hope they

1054
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:33.159
do one soon, even though it ended. I hope they

1055
01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:37.280
bring back Lower Dectition, my favorite series, so to me,

1056
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.679
I am actually going to be giving this one an

1057
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:44.360
eight an eight point zero, kind of like a Mire

1058
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:49.159
for story based eighty, I guess, but yeah, yeah, that

1059
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:51.400
would be me. I can't really remember a whole lot

1060
01:03:51.400 --> 01:04:08.199
about this episode, but yeah.

1061
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:02.320
God, I can't figure out how to un mute my

1062
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:06.639
microphone on this new system. I hear you, I hear you.

1063
01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:10.760
Oh okay, good good good good Okay. So who is

1064
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:12.519
gonna be next? That's going to be Eric.

1065
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:19.880
Okay? Uh yeah, so so interesting.

1066
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.519
I love I love reviewing these episodes because we all

1067
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:23.840
have such different ideas.

1068
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:28.760
Right for me, I think this might have been my

1069
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:34.400
least favorite episode of this season, so I agree with Paul.

1070
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:39.719
I found the Ali character to be pretty obnoxious throughout

1071
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:43.079
the whole episode. I didn't really like her, and I

1072
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:46.000
didn't really like the fact that they were I guess

1073
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.760
I agree with our uh you know, people who wrote

1074
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:55.679
into us that they are introducing this new character that

1075
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.079
I think they want to be important, But it almost

1076
01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.199
kind of feels like they're going to be a throwaway character,

1077
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.480
and to me, they've already done that once. They did

1078
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:09.159
that with Jennifer, And I'm so disappointed with the way

1079
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:12.599
that they ended the whole thing with Jennifer, and just like,

1080
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:16.880
I don't know, I like the concept of them being

1081
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:18.840
able to break up and that sort of thing, but

1082
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.239
just the fact that they sort of left her out

1083
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:24.119
for a long time and then brought her back in here,

1084
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:26.280
They're bringing in a new character that they don't have

1085
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:32.039
any time to explore, and they've dedicated an entire episode

1086
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:32.920
to her.

1087
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:36.719
So yeah, I just didn't think.

1088
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:41.599
That was that compelling, tell you the truth. I also

1089
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.159
agree with Paul that like the amount of destruction on

1090
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:50.239
the soritos was absurd and could never ever be repaired.

1091
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:56.280
I you know, her character as a partial god I

1092
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:57.719
thought was going to be kind of fun and they

1093
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:00.400
might have like some sort of references back to who

1094
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.920
mourns for Adonus, But like, aside from a couple of

1095
01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:08.159
lame jokes here there, or the whole like lightning bolt

1096
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.119
up Boimler's butt thing, which I think was supposed to

1097
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:13.480
be happy or supposed to be funny, which I didn't

1098
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:14.719
really find funny at all.

1099
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:21.119
Yeah, I don't know. I will say that I also.

1100
01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:25.440
Agree that the kind of like Boimler trying to get

1101
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:28.480
into Honor's good graces because that's what he sees of

1102
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:33.559
his alternate universe self. I think that's hilarious. And I

1103
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:37.039
actually like the fact that we just see minor progress

1104
01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:39.519
on his facial hair each week, because I think he's

1105
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.519
going for this like alternate universe Boimler beard, and I

1106
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.360
don't think he's gonna get there. I think this is

1107
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:50.199
part of that point zero four two percent variants or whatever,

1108
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:51.679
and I just don't think he's going to be able

1109
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:53.639
to grow this beard. And I love that he's going

1110
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:56.360
to spend the entire season trying to grow the beard.

1111
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:59.440
So I just find that to be a funny thing

1112
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:00.920
that every week I'm kind of like, oh, how long

1113
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:02.400
is it going to be now? And in what way

1114
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.239
is he going to you know, hold his chin while

1115
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.400
he's thinking contempt contemplatively.

1116
01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:09.719
About things or or that sort of thing.

1117
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:14.480
My favorite line of the episode was probably when the

1118
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:19.519
orb says orbs orbulate at the end. That was pretty funny, like,

1119
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:22.519
let's get out of here. Regulators regulate, you know what

1120
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:25.679
I'm saying, and Freeman of course dropping that make it

1121
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:28.320
so at the end was pretty funny. So I you know,

1122
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:31.559
I almost forgot this episode as soon as I saw it.

1123
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:35.039
I didn't love it a bunch, but there were some

1124
01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:37.760
good jokes, So I don't.

1125
01:07:37.519 --> 01:07:39.119
Know, maybe like a.

1126
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:42.760
Maybe a five at best.

1127
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:44.599
Yeah, I'll give it a five.

1128
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:50.719
A five from Eric and Charles. You're bringing up the caboose, buddy,

1129
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:52.360
you're up next.

1130
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:54.639
Dig of it in my notes. So I've done something

1131
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:57.599
interesting on this one doing my dead research.

1132
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:00.800
The original.

1133
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:07.920
The original ending for the US episode of Tablage of

1134
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:13.840
the Enterprise Archaeologist episode Carolyn Palamas was pregnant with a

1135
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:21.119
Pallas child, but it was mixed by NBC censor. The

1136
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.800
only mediccene actually is available on the.

1137
01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:28.000
Rodenberry Bolt Blu Ray Columbus.

1138
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:28.640
Uh.

1139
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:34.840
Pregnancy was also included in James Bledge's novelization of the episode,

1140
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:37.560
So lower Deck.

1141
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:44.560
Uh yeah, appears to be thinking that references.

1142
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:49.960
In that episode to this one.

1143
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:53.880
Didn't quite get the idea of the lightning bolts that

1144
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:57.119
just kind of appeared, and what that would a little

1145
01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:01.359
confusing A couple of nice little references in here that

1146
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:02.159
I did like.

1147
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:09.119
When Mariner's waiting for Olea to show up. She's late.

1148
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:13.880
She's sitting in the old bunk area that may used

1149
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.920
to sleep in back in the ancient area. So I

1150
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:20.880
enjoyed that. That was I think a good kickback there.

1151
01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:26.199
And then I love their debate at the end about

1152
01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:31.800
how they get set. She gets set to the brig.

1153
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:37.600
And Mariner's going to be there sitting there giving her company,

1154
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:43.319
and they're arguing and arguing over each other. And it's

1155
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:50.039
interesting that that scene was taken from when Mariner was

1156
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:53.880
sitting in the brig and one of her friends was

1157
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:58.119
sitting there with her. So I think that's a backtrack

1158
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:02.560
to when Mariner was in the brig, which I thought

1159
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:11.119
was a nice reference there. I'm jumping on this one,

1160
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:12.840
agreeing with Airy.

1161
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:14.600
This one.

1162
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:20.119
Just I enjoyed Star Base eight. But it's like, oh, Captain,

1163
01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:23.159
they're going out there. They get four or whatever figure

1164
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:27.199
they want to. They're gonna create a tube. Oh, they're

1165
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:32.039
gonna create a spear. It's like original, It's like okay,

1166
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:36.039
and they go in to this big battle. He is

1167
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:41.479
a power for some reason over energizes. They come back.

1168
01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:48.560
Unenergized and ear walks the two missing characters because we

1169
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.600
kind of had in Miltana and.

1170
01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:56.479
It's like, okay, this one just didn't excite me.

1171
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:02.600
Man, this is probably want to lie lowest scores about six.

1172
01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:11.479
All right, there you have it, so wow, we might

1173
01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:14.600
be pretty close with our Facebook fans on this one.

1174
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:19.319
So what's the final overall score Charles for our Trek spurts.

1175
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:23.399
Our fan gave this one at six point six.

1176
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:27.840
And the House for gracious and gave it at six

1177
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.319
point eight.

1178
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:38.439
Wow. Wow, Okay, there you have it. All right, guys,

1179
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:40.399
make sure that you go to our Facebook page, take

1180
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:42.439
place in our polls and tell us what you thought

1181
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:45.319
about this week's episode of Star Trek Lower Decks and

1182
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:47.640
then tune in next week to Trek Talking and see

1183
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.760
if we read your comments live on the air. And

1184
01:11:50.840 --> 01:12:14.319
now it's time for our Star Trek birthdays. That was

1185
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:17.079
not a clue on song, all right, guys, this is

1186
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:18.680
a great part of the show. We get to have

1187
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:21.960
a lot of fun and talk about a lot of

1188
01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:25.640
Star Trek episodes through the decades of Star Trek, and

1189
01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:28.239
we always start out by remembering those members of our

1190
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:31.920
Star Trek family who sadly enough are no longer with us,

1191
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:33.840
and for that we turned to Eric.

1192
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:35.680
Yeah, Jim.

1193
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:38.000
Tonight, we have five members we're going to be remembering.

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01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:42.000
The first is actor Nathan Jung. Nathan Jung appeared as

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01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:45.560
Genghis Khan in the original series third season episode The

1196
01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:49.760
Savage Curtain. That was his very first television role, of course,

1197
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:53.319
happening in nineteen sixty nine, and Nathan continued to play

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01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:56.399
small roles over the next thirty five years here and there,

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01:12:56.640 --> 01:13:01.680
including Corvette Summer in nineteen seventy eighty Birthday Nathan Young,

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01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:05.199
Happy Birthday, as well to Bill Erwin, the actor who

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01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:10.119
portrayed Dalan Quints in the Next Generation four season episode

1202
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:14.119
Remember Me. Bill, of course, was a veteran of film

1203
01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:18.119
and television, appearing on numerous theater programs of the nineteen fifties,

1204
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:23.760
including Science Fiction Theater and Zane Gray Theater. He has

1205
01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:26.680
a few film credits, including Naked Gun thirty three and

1206
01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:31.079
a third and a movie called Force of Nature. Somewhere

1207
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:33.199
in Time was another movie he was in. That's where

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01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:36.319
he was featured in a larger role alongside Christopher Reeve

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01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:40.680
and a few other more prominent actors. Erwin was remembered

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01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:45.279
as the sixty third Primetime Emmy at the sixty third

1211
01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:51.560
Primetime Emmy Awards in September of twenty eleven for his accomplishments,

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01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.920
and Bill lived to be ninety six years old, which

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01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:57.319
I think is amazing. We lost him back in twenty ten.

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01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:01.439
Happy Birthday, Bill Irwin. Happy birthday well to Nicholas Coster,

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01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:05.159
the actor who played Vice Admiral Haftel in the third

1216
01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:09.960
season Next Generation episode The Offspring of the Most Excellent Episode.

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01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:14.159
Nicholas was an extremely prolific actor, has over one hundred

1218
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:18.760
and seventy television and movie credits on his IMDb page,

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01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:22.439
but probably is best known for his role on various

1220
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:26.520
daytime soap operas, most notably his Daytime Emmy nominated role

1221
01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:31.399
as Lionel Lockridge on NBC's Santa Barbara from nineteen eighty

1222
01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:35.000
four through nineteen eighty eight and again between nineteen ninety

1223
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:39.600
and nineteen ninety three. Had some recurring roles like that

1224
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:42.800
of the father of Blair Warner on the Facts of

1225
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:45.439
Life Back in the Day. Yeah you know who I'm

1226
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:49.119
talking about. Coster also co starred with at least three

1227
01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:52.159
Star Trek captains throughout his career. In nineteen seventy eight,

1228
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:55.600
he and Kate mulgrew were in an epic mini series

1229
01:14:55.720 --> 01:15:00.199
called The Word Together. He was with William Shatner on

1230
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:04.760
the series TJ. Hooker, and got to act with Scott

1231
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:07.680
Bakula on an episode of the short lived Mister and

1232
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:12.199
Missus Smith in nineteen ninety six. Nicholas Coster, aged eighty

1233
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:14.479
nine years old, lost just two years ago. In June

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01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:19.039
of twenty twenty three. Happy Birthday, Nicholas Happy Birthday, as

1235
01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:22.840
well to Karen Landry, the actress who played the Vorgone

1236
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:27.279
Azure in the Next Generation third season episode Captain's Holiday.

1237
01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:30.000
Outside of Star Trek, she's probably best known for her

1238
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:33.359
recurring role as Mira White during the first three seasons

1239
01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:36.439
of the drama Saint Elsewhere from nineteen eighty two to

1240
01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:41.640
nineteen eighty five. Several television series including Mash Highway to Heaven,

1241
01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:45.840
Family Ties, Chicago Hope, Six Feet Under along the way

1242
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:52.159
to her credit. Other films that she added her talents

1243
01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:56.439
to included nineteen eighty eight's Heartbreak Hotel in two thousand

1244
01:15:56.479 --> 01:16:01.199
and six's Peaceful Warrior. Karen Landry lost back in twenty

1245
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:04.199
fifteen at the age of sixty five years old. Happy Birthday, Karen.

1246
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:08.079
And last but out least unfortunately, we have a new

1247
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:13.600
member of our just Past community. On November sixth of

1248
01:16:13.680 --> 01:16:17.319
this year, not a month ago. In fact, we lost

1249
01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:21.920
the phenomenal actor Tony Todd. And of course, this actor

1250
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:25.239
was known in the Star Trek realms for portraying Wars

1251
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:30.000
brother Kern in the Next Generation and Deep Space nine

1252
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:35.279
episodes several episodes I think four episodes along the Way

1253
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:38.199
if I remember. He also played Kern in a Star

1254
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:42.840
Trek video game called Klingon Honor Guard. He was also

1255
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:48.399
Kern in Star Trek Online and played several different characters

1256
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:52.399
in episodes of DS nine and Voyager Along the Way.

1257
01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:56.319
In fact, he auditioned six times for various roles on

1258
01:16:56.359 --> 01:16:59.119
the Next Generation before winning.

1259
01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:00.159
The role of Kern.

1260
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.000
He was one of also several actors considered for the

1261
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:07.119
role of Benjamin Cisco on a little show called Deep

1262
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:11.800
Space nine. He provided the voice of Corban in the

1263
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:16.039
video game Star Trek Elite Forces two. And of course

1264
01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:19.199
Tony Todd just has a ton of stuff to his name.

1265
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:22.520
I'm probably gonna let Paul take the mic on that

1266
01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:25.319
to just like extol the virtues of this guy. But

1267
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:29.720
what I will say is that, standing at six foot

1268
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:34.880
five years six foot five years feet o feet tall,

1269
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:40.359
this guy was no joke, of course, and he was

1270
01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:43.439
really well known for his roles in a ton of

1271
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:46.840
horror movies. And I'm not a horror movie guy, so

1272
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:48.640
i don't know all of them, which is why I'm

1273
01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:51.560
gonna rely on Paul. But the last thing that I'll

1274
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:54.479
know Tony Todd for is that he also appeared on

1275
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:59.119
Jim's absolute favorite television show of all time, a little

1276
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:01.079
show called the Orrville.

1277
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:02.079
That's right.

1278
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:06.279
He was a Macklin ambassador in the episode Sanctuary. So, Paul,

1279
01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.079
what else do you want to say about Tony fan?

1280
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:12.159
Paul's not here because Paul had the No One meeting.

1281
01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:15.640
Oh Paul had to go.

1282
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:18.159
Oh I just missed him. Oh darn it. Yeah, Paul

1283
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:19.279
had to go to a meeting. All right.

1284
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:20.880
Well, I'm sure that Paul would have had a lot

1285
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:23.319
to say about this guy. But please go to Tony Todd's

1286
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:28.039
IMDb page. Jim, do you have any like Tony Todd's

1287
01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.880
stories or things that you want to kind of interject here?

1288
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:34.239
Well, Tony Todd, I think amongst horror fans. Is best

1289
01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:37.239
known for the lead role in Candy Man. I believe

1290
01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:41.399
he played candy Man in four candy Man movies. I

1291
01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:43.840
think there was four of them, and he played the

1292
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:47.119
lead role of the candy Man in all four of

1293
01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:50.239
those movies. So he's he's he's pretty well known amongst

1294
01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.680
horror fans as candy Man. But I think I think

1295
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:58.880
that for us it's Kern all the way. Yep, Kern

1296
01:18:59.000 --> 01:18:59.560
all the way.

1297
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:02.560
Well, that does it for our remembrances this week. So

1298
01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:04.880
I'm going to pass this flaming birthday candle over to

1299
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:05.800
thank you.

1300
01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:06.199
Eric.

1301
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:09.800
I just got you, and I'm going to pass it

1302
01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:12.079
back over you to finish up Paul's.

1303
01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:18.239
Happy Birthday at Kimberley Column. Actually have played Gea Chartruck's

1304
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:25.000
Next or Ankins Seventh Bits see an episode by non self.

1305
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.119
She was nominated for a Young Artist Award for her

1306
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:41.119
performance Happy Birthday in June. Yeah Kalina.

1307
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:47.239
Actor who played sur On in Star Trek Nemesis. He

1308
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:51.279
was born the same day as the Nemesis director Stuart

1309
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:57.600
your Bard. Happy Birthday is Zachary Benjamin, actress who played

1310
01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:02.920
young Ian Andrew Troll char Trek's Next Generation second season

1311
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:04.199
episode The Child.

1312
01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:10.359
Happy Birthday the Golden Brooks to portrayed.

1313
01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:14.920
It Alicia Traveler and char Trek Enterprises four season episode

1314
01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:21.760
storm Front and storm Front Part two. Happy birthday, Andre Dim,

1315
01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:25.359
actress who played Deif Kyle in the first season of

1316
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:30.920
Third Trek Strange New Worlds. And this one's an interesting one.

1317
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:36.279
A very happy birthday to Tom Wright, highly horrific actor

1318
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:40.159
who played Tubic Jar Trek Voyagers second season episode two.

1319
01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:46.479
He also went on to play Gareth and Jardrek Enterprises

1320
01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:52.039
four season episode storm Front. Interesting little side note is

1321
01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:54.520
that when they did the episode two vics.

1322
01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:58.319
They kind of looked at each the.

1323
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:02.760
Actor and said that neither one of them they would

1324
01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:09.359
look he would look familiar to the combined of the

1325
01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:14.119
two characters, so they chose to actually take a third

1326
01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:18.319
actor to play the two of them as to that.

1327
01:21:20.119 --> 01:21:22.159
So it's interesting how he got the role because I

1328
01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:23.600
think they were going to give it to one of

1329
01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:26.279
the two actors and changed their minds that they just

1330
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:31.960
didn't look different enough to being representing the two.

1331
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:32.880
People that he was going to be.

1332
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:40.239
And Eric, I'm a path the planning handle over to.

1333
01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:46.159
You, all right, I've got some folks who are still

1334
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.119
with us. Happy birthday to Eugene Clark, the actor who

1335
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:53.680
played Commander Shiv in The Star Trek Next uh excuse me,

1336
01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:57.680
Star Trek Strange New World second season episode ad Astra

1337
01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:03.159
per Asper. Happy birthday well to Frank military actor, producer,

1338
01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:07.279
writer and director who played Biddle Coleridge in the DS

1339
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:12.079
nine third season episodes Past Tense, Part one and Part two.

1340
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:17.800
Colonel Terry W. Vertz Junior was born in nineteen sixty

1341
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:20.800
seven and he's a NASA astronaut whose birthday is this week.

1342
01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:25.399
He made a cameo appearance as ensign T verts Hello

1343
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:28.960
last name in The Star Trek Enterprise four season episode

1344
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:32.199
These Are the Voyage is a terrible episode, but nice

1345
01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:36.880
that they had a real astronaut in there. Seller. Sarah Silverman,

1346
01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:40.880
an actress and comedian who played Rain Robinson in The

1347
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:44.840
Star Trek Voyager third season episodes Futures and Futures and

1348
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:48.640
Part two, also has a birthday this week, born December first,

1349
01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:53.199
same birthday as my dad, so crazy. Happy birthday, Sarah Silverman.

1350
01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:57.479
Happy birthday as well to Dan Guthier, who played Sam

1351
01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:01.880
Lavelle in the Next Generation seventh season episode Lower Decks.

1352
01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:05.039
You know the guy I'm talking about. And last on

1353
01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:11.159
Paul's list is actress Samora Smallwood, a Canadian actress who

1354
01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:15.319
played Lieutenant Amen in the Star Trek Discovery second season

1355
01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:19.439
episodes Such Sweet Sorrow and Such Sweet Sorrow Part two.

1356
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.760
She was also in the Star Trek Short Treks episode

1357
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:26.960
Q and A. That's the one in the elevator, right, yeah,

1358
01:23:27.039 --> 01:23:31.279
for sure, yes, all right, passing that flaming birthday candle.

1359
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:33.720
Over to you, Jim, all right, And I always take

1360
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:38.159
the Klingons because well because I like Klingons. So we're

1361
01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:41.960
going to start off by saying copla to Alex Spencer,

1362
01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:46.199
who played Grenax in the Star Trek Strange New World

1363
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:50.520
second season episode Broken Circle. He's the pirate Klingon that

1364
01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:55.520
was underneath the planet they're building the Federationship. We also

1365
01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:59.399
want to say a hardy kapla of Brian Bonsel. He's

1366
01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:04.399
a former child actor who played Alexander Rozhenko in seven

1367
01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:09.920
episodes of Star Trek the Next Generation and not a Klingon,

1368
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:13.880
but I threw him on my list because we had

1369
01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:16.840
him on the podcast and he was awesome. I want

1370
01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:22.039
to say happy birthday to Eduardo Roman, the actor who

1371
01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:25.239
played Vulcan Number one in Star Trek Picard's second season

1372
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:29.439
episode Mercy. You guys can go back and find his

1373
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:32.239
interview with us. He was a great guy, a lot

1374
01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:36.119
of fun to talk to, and a huge Star Trek fan,

1375
01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:38.640
and he was so grateful. In fact, I'll tell you

1376
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:41.239
a little story. He can go to the podcast and

1377
01:24:41.319 --> 01:24:43.880
hear it in his own words. But when he auditioned

1378
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.279
for the role, they gave him a choice that he

1379
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:52.279
could have either been the shopkeeper that had the broken

1380
01:24:52.319 --> 01:24:54.960
window and was sweeping up the glass on the street

1381
01:24:55.359 --> 01:24:59.840
and actually had spoken lines in the episode with Rafi

1382
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:04.239
and seven, or he could have been the vulcan in

1383
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:08.119
the park and being the Star Trek fan, he immediately said,

1384
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:10.439
I gotta be a Vulcan. I don't want to be

1385
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.560
some random dude. I gotta be a vulcan. So he

1386
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:15.720
took the scene as a vulcan, even though we had

1387
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:18.840
less screen time, just because he was a Star Trek

1388
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:21.760
fan and he wanted to wear the ears. How cool

1389
01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:24.079
is that, guys, go and look up his interview. He

1390
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:26.920
was a lot of fun to talk to, and that,

1391
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:31.520
my friends, wraps up our Star Trek Birthdays, and now

1392
01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:34.800
it's time for Star Trek News. We haven't had a

1393
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:37.039
chance to do Star Trek News in the last couple

1394
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:39.840
of shows, but we do this time. So it's time

1395
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:51.840
for some Star Trek news. I don't have that. No,

1396
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:59.960
it's not. Is it this one?

1397
01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:02.319
Hope not that one?

1398
01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:04.039
Oh I know?

1399
01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:05.960
No, yeah, I can't.

1400
01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:23.279
Oh my god, it's so long. Okay, well, this is

1401
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:25.239
like two minutes of the heim.

1402
01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:30.520
I honestly, I don't know. I don't know where I

1403
01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:33.840
put it. I can't. I can't find it. I'm sorry.

1404
01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:36.039
It's my first time with this new studio. I can't

1405
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:41.920
find it. But anyways, go down, go down.

1406
01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:42.720
Maybe it's under that.

1407
01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:48.760
All right. So Eric has our first story for Star

1408
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:51.680
Trek News. Eric, you want to jump right in and

1409
01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:52.399
take it away.

1410
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:56.439
I am so excited to be talking about comics again.

1411
01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:58.880
It's been a very long time since we talked about

1412
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:01.600
comics here, and and of course many of us have

1413
01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:05.000
been following along the whole time. And there's a cool

1414
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:09.399
new event coming up in twenty twenty five. Data's Evil

1415
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:14.640
Twin turns Evil God in Star Trek Lore War comics

1416
01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:19.479
crossover event coming in twenty twenty five. IDW is following

1417
01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:22.000
up on the release of their five hundredth issue of

1418
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:25.840
Star Trek Comics by announcing the next Big comics crossover event,

1419
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:30.199
bringing together their ongoing flagship Star Trek series and the

1420
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:34.720
ongoing Star Trek Defiant series. The new crossover event focuses

1421
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:39.760
on Data's brother Lare once again threatening the universe as

1422
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:44.640
he does. Here is how IDW describes the upcoming crossover event.

1423
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:49.680
The single most devious mind in the universe has one Commander,

1424
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:53.399
Data's evil brother Law has used the Orb of Destruction,

1425
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:56.800
which by the way, is no joke, to obliterate all

1426
01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:00.000
of reality and remake it in his image. While declared

1427
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:03.720
himself it's God. Now that Lore has claimed the ultimate victory,

1428
01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:07.319
what happens next? In a statement, the team behind the

1429
01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:11.520
crossover explains how it all ties into the current Star

1430
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:15.840
Trek Comics quote. This is it the moment we've been

1431
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:20.399
building too since the Theseus left Spacedock and the Defiant

1432
01:28:20.520 --> 01:28:25.359
was stolen, remarked Lanzig the ultimate Star Trek Comic crossover

1433
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:28.520
event as the heroes and villains of the galaxy must

1434
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:34.199
ban together to defend its very existence. Since the lines inception,

1435
01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:37.359
our grander story in both titles has dealt with Star

1436
01:28:37.399 --> 01:28:41.439
Trek concept of godlike beings and the rejection of those

1437
01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:45.640
godlike beings order an entropy as it exists throughout the

1438
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:49.159
four quadrants of the galaxy. Added Campwell, who pulls the

1439
01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:51.960
strings and who dares to cut them?

1440
01:28:52.279 --> 01:28:53.319
Lore War is.

1441
01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:58.119
Quite literally the apothesis of that shared theme. Two years

1442
01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:01.600
in the making. Star Trek World War number one arrives

1443
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:04.520
in comic book stores on March twenty six, twenty twenty five.

1444
01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:07.720
To get you started. The brand new Star Trek number

1445
01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:12.520
five hundred special issue released recently, and it contains a

1446
01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:17.079
prelude story for lore War titled The Final Masterpiece. You

1447
01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:19.840
can pick up Star Trek number five hundred at your

1448
01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:24.600
favorite local comic book shop. And you, guys, I don't

1449
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:30.199
know about you, but I have been thoroughly, thoroughly enjoying

1450
01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:33.239
both the Star Trek title and the Star Trek Defiant

1451
01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:36.600
title this entire year. I think that they're both just

1452
01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:40.159
like completely nailing it. And like, you know, every once

1453
01:29:40.199 --> 01:29:41.800
in a while I get an issue where you're sort

1454
01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:44.479
of like, eh, that wasn't that great, But like, generally speaking,

1455
01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:46.840
the story feels like it's really hitting hard to me,

1456
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:48.720
and I'm very excited about this crossover.

1457
01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:52.800
While Yeah, and you know, with our with our new

1458
01:29:52.840 --> 01:29:55.640
studio and our new setup, we're going to be bringing

1459
01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:59.119
back Comic Corner. So you guys can stay tuned because

1460
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:02.199
Comic Corner we're gonna dust off the dust, We're gonna

1461
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:03.920
blow it all off, and we're gonna bring it back

1462
01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:07.119
and it's gonna be bigger and better than ever. And

1463
01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:09.600
we have a lot of Star Trek comic books to

1464
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:13.159
catch up on, so keep an eye out for Comic Corner,

1465
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:15.880
all right. So this next story was for Paul, but

1466
01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:19.119
Paul had to leave, so I'll jump in in his place.

1467
01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:23.840
Will Wheaton reflects on Wesley Crusher's return to Star Trek Prodigy.

1468
01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:27.520
The Traveler better known to us as Wesley Crusher, has

1469
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:30.640
been back to our screens. Having not seen him since

1470
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:34.640
nineteen ninety four. Is tng episode Journeys end unless you

1471
01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:37.640
count a quick scene in Nemesis of him sitting with

1472
01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:40.800
his mother at the wedding reception and another one in

1473
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:43.880
Star Trek Picard season two. It was a delight to

1474
01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:46.960
see him again and learn who his character is now.

1475
01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:50.359
Our friends over at trekcre caught up with him and

1476
01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:52.640
asked him about the process that led him to being

1477
01:30:52.680 --> 01:30:56.159
a part of the second season. He said, well, a

1478
01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:58.640
good friend of mine is on the Prodigy writing staff,

1479
01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:00.960
and she called me up and said, how do you

1480
01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:04.840
feel about being Wesley Crusher? Again, I was like, I'm

1481
01:31:04.880 --> 01:31:08.399
extremely into it. She pitched me the broad idea of

1482
01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:11.239
what they were thinking about and then asked me if

1483
01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:13.680
I had any idea as I said, you know, I

1484
01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:16.479
don't want to overstep, but I've been writing fan fiction

1485
01:31:16.520 --> 01:31:20.640
about Wesley the Traveler for years and in my stories

1486
01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:24.479
he's kind of like the doctor from Doctor Who. She

1487
01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:27.319
got really excited and said that the Prodigy writers were

1488
01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:30.479
thinking the same thing, so we were all leaning in

1489
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:33.600
the same direction. She asked me, what do you think

1490
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:36.159
about this? What do you think about that? And I

1491
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:39.560
couldn't believe it. I'd never been invited into the creative

1492
01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:43.439
process as early as on Prodigy, so I even felt

1493
01:31:43.439 --> 01:31:46.560
closer to this character than I already would have. And

1494
01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:48.960
then in a few days I got the official request

1495
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:52.239
to join the show, which of course was operating under

1496
01:31:52.279 --> 01:31:54.880
a code name at that point. We were calling it

1497
01:31:55.279 --> 01:32:00.359
Captain Video. During production, he shared how the Cammeo and

1498
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:02.840
Star Trek. Picard's second season and the comic that he

1499
01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:06.960
wrote in twenty twenty two in IDW's four hundredth issue

1500
01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:10.520
all tied into the appearance on Prodigy, and now the

1501
01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:13.600
loom that he was facing in this series tied into

1502
01:32:13.640 --> 01:32:16.520
the other two. When asked what he thinks of Prodigy

1503
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:20.520
as a whole, he had some very insightful things to say.

1504
01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:23.119
There are three things that really stand out to me

1505
01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:27.119
about Prodigy. First, I love that Wesley is in the show,

1506
01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:29.960
because Wesley was written into Trek to bring people into

1507
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:34.199
the universe and get kids interested in making a better tomorrow,

1508
01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:38.319
and Prodigy is doing the same thing. I've heard Kevin

1509
01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:41.960
and Dan say that Wesley was the original Prodigy, so

1510
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:46.520
we need him in Prodigy. That's just a gift. Second,

1511
01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:49.920
I love that Prodigy doesn't talk down to kids. It

1512
01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:52.880
reaches kids where they are. It gives their parents something

1513
01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:55.399
to watch so that they can watch it together. I

1514
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:59.199
agree with all the fan feedback I've been seeing saying

1515
01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:03.279
this was probably the best Trek season since Deep Space nine,

1516
01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:08.479
just in terms of satisfying great storytelling. It's checking all

1517
01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:13.279
different boxes. Third, I love that at its core, Prodigy

1518
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:21.000
is about teamwork. It's about outsider kids. Absolutely, absolutely, it's

1519
01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:23.520
about kids who have no place to call home all

1520
01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:26.640
coming together and finding a home and Starfleet that is

1521
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:30.199
just a gorgeous message for kids who feel weird, feel

1522
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:32.640
like they don't fit in, there is a place for

1523
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:36.000
you to fit in. It's with your fellow weirdos. And

1524
01:33:36.079 --> 01:33:38.600
the Star Trek World is a place where you're special,

1525
01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:43.399
no matter who you are, Welcome a board. And you

1526
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:47.720
know I on our Facebook page, I get a lot

1527
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:54.159
of people that absolutely will not watch Prodigy or Lower

1528
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:58.119
Decks because their cartoons and they're for kids, and they

1529
01:33:58.119 --> 01:34:00.760
refuse to watch it. They just won't watch it. They

1530
01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:03.640
won't give it a chance. They don't care. It's a cartoon.

1531
01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:07.479
Not interested. And I say to those people, you know,

1532
01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:11.119
that's too bad, because you're missing some great Star Trek

1533
01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:16.600
particularly season two of Prodigy. Season one was okay, but

1534
01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:21.039
season two was leaps and bounds ahead of season one.

1535
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:24.800
And anybody that refuses to watch it because it's a cartoon,

1536
01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:27.880
you need to climb down off your high horse and

1537
01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:31.840
give it a chance. Because their Prodigy has some of

1538
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:35.800
the best Star Trek stories I've seen, even in live

1539
01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:39.279
action Star Treks. So if you haven't watched it, please

1540
01:34:39.319 --> 01:34:42.119
give it a chance. I don't think you'll be disappointed

1541
01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:44.640
at all. You guys are great.

1542
01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:46.279
That he is.

1543
01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:50.560
Will Wheaton is such the representative Star Trek right now.

1544
01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:54.000
He has a bit where he's a little bit of

1545
01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.920
the faces of Star Trek, and I love how much

1546
01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:05.199
he rep he includes out with the fans. So really

1547
01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:09.319
I see I see the interview and it's like, yeah,

1548
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:14.960
that sounds like Will Wheaton talking. And I love how

1549
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:18.239
he admits the fact that, oh hey, I get invited

1550
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:21.720
to come in and discuss this before I was even

1551
01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:25.880
a cast member. And I like how shows occasion we

1552
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:28.439
will do that, and I think it's nice to see

1553
01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:33.159
shows that will do that. Let's just not take the stards,

1554
01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:36.079
let's bring the guests and let's make it more special

1555
01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:40.760
where they're inclusive. And I'm hoping more shows kind of

1556
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:44.119
look at that model and follow use that model.

1557
01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:51.319
Yeah. I also like the fact that he actually was

1558
01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:57.159
a traveler supervisor on Star Trek Picard and he took

1559
01:35:57.239 --> 01:36:00.600
Sogi and that wasn't Sogi. That was a mirror universe version.

1560
01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:03.399
That was different series.

1561
01:36:03.399 --> 01:36:06.479
Man, Yeah, that was that was the same actors playing

1562
01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:10.640
a different character that was related any whatever. So he

1563
01:36:10.720 --> 01:36:15.279
actually was a traveler supervisor in Picard. We see him

1564
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:19.840
briefly in Picard right at the end, but the mean Prodigy.

1565
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:21.640
He was gonna say, what what Prodigy did?

1566
01:36:21.720 --> 01:36:24.600
Was it like brought together that whole story of the

1567
01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:29.720
traveler and then associating them with the whole like supervisor

1568
01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:32.880
Gary seven thing. I thought that was so cool how

1569
01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:36.119
they brought it all together, because it it makes sense

1570
01:36:36.119 --> 01:36:39.239
and even though it's retcon right, it's not something that

1571
01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:42.479
was originally intended in Star Trek.

1572
01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:43.680
War, it all sits together.

1573
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.720
It does because they wanted to. I thought it was

1574
01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:53.800
great when they brought the entire TG cast back that

1575
01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:56.319
they didn't bring back Wesley, but they they did manage

1576
01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:59.760
to get him into Picard, you know, at the end.

1577
01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:01.399
And I thought it was great that they did that,

1578
01:37:01.479 --> 01:37:04.960
and I thought Prodigy did an even better job following

1579
01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:08.920
that up. For sure.

1580
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:16.119
His reference to the doctor who like picture being a doctor,

1581
01:37:17.800 --> 01:37:20.680
It's like yes, I was like yes, and that's exactly

1582
01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:23.399
what Eric and I looked at, like, yeah, he is

1583
01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:25.920
representing the doctors as well.

1584
01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:28.800
Well.

1585
01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:32.159
I think, like especially the way that he dressed Charles

1586
01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:35.279
was very Number ten to me, like the whole overcoat

1587
01:37:35.439 --> 01:37:38.560
and then you know Number ten didn't wear a sweater,

1588
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:40.560
but he would wear the toe and like the shirt

1589
01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:42.720
underneath the jacket and all that sort of thing. So

1590
01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:45.600
he he had a very David Tennant kind of fild Mary.

1591
01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:49.520
Yeah, and I think that was a good homage to

1592
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:51.119
those of us who are whould be.

1593
01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:59.239
Yet you know, it's just too bad that that Prodigy

1594
01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:01.560
is on Netflix because I would have loved to see

1595
01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:06.279
them on the Ready Room. Do a have Will Wheaton

1596
01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:13.279
interview himself on the Ready Room? You know, that would

1597
01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:18.159
have been funny. But unfortunately we don't get Prodigy on

1598
01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:21.800
the Ready Room. And you know what else, I got

1599
01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:25.199
to throw this in there as well. Will Wheaton takes

1600
01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:27.840
a lot of flak for Wesley. There's a lot of

1601
01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:30.960
people out there that hate Wesley and they dump on

1602
01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:35.439
Will Wheaton because of Wesley. And to see him come

1603
01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:40.119
back on Prodigy, I think redeems that character. Not that

1604
01:38:40.199 --> 01:38:43.520
he needed to be redeemed in my eyes, but it

1605
01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:46.920
brings the character, you know, in a full circle and

1606
01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:50.720
brings him back to the forefront as this prodigy. I

1607
01:38:50.760 --> 01:38:53.920
hate to use that word, but as a prodigy character

1608
01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:57.760
on a show called Prodigy. I thought that was just great.

1609
01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:00.399
So, Jim, if I could just pay you on what

1610
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:04.800
you're saying here, Like, I think one of the coolest

1611
01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:11.000
things about modern Star Trek honestly is Will Wheaton. And

1612
01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:15.479
here's why, because he has been through the fire Man.

1613
01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:19.399
He was a child actor who was pushed in a

1614
01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:21.840
lot of different directions and asked to do a lot

1615
01:39:21.880 --> 01:39:25.760
of different things and probably wasn't capable of making like

1616
01:39:25.880 --> 01:39:28.279
really good decisions when he was a child actor. And

1617
01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:30.880
yet he's kind of come through the whole thing, and

1618
01:39:31.680 --> 01:39:37.079
he's probably one of the most compassionate, caring, just like

1619
01:39:37.680 --> 01:39:42.479
lovely individuals that you'll ever see on television. He always

1620
01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:47.439
approaches every situation with care, with like hoping that he's

1621
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:51.000
accommodating whatever the other person's thing is, whatever that is.

1622
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:54.960
I just think Will Wheaton is like a bright light

1623
01:39:55.039 --> 01:39:57.439
in Star Trek, and I feel like he is as

1624
01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.279
much as Star Trek Discovery is an integral part of

1625
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:01.840
twenty first century Star Trek.

1626
01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:02.600
I feel like.

1627
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:05.760
Adult Will Wheaton is actually in that same category.

1628
01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:06.039
For me.

1629
01:40:06.199 --> 01:40:10.600
He's literally the coolest ambassador for Star Trek that we

1630
01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:12.119
have these days.

1631
01:40:12.399 --> 01:40:16.239
And I've told this story before and I'm gonna briefly

1632
01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:19.239
tell it again. I had to with Wheaten at one

1633
01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:22.760
of my conventions back in the mid nineties. I couldn't

1634
01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:25.359
get any guest stars. I was having trouble with another

1635
01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:29.840
convention company and my phone rang and guess who it was?

1636
01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:33.960
Will Wheaton. And Will Wheaton wasn't doing conventions at that

1637
01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:37.079
time because he hated this other company and wouldn't do it.

1638
01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:40.520
And he called me up and he says, I'd love

1639
01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:42.760
to stick it to the man, I'll do your show.

1640
01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:48.239
I was like, Wow. To put that in perspective actors,

1641
01:40:48.520 --> 01:40:52.399
you will never never get a phone call from an

1642
01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:57.159
actor saying can I do your convention? It just doesn't happen. Okay,

1643
01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:58.800
you got to call the agents. You got a da

1644
01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:01.640
da da da da da. So for him to get

1645
01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:05.720
my phone number from Michael Dorn and then call me

1646
01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:11.479
at home is just out of this world rare. When

1647
01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:14.760
he got to the convention, he was the coolest. He

1648
01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:19.319
signed every autograph, He hung out in the hotel lobby

1649
01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:21.640
all night, went to all the room parties, came to

1650
01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:25.319
the dance party, judged the costume contest. He was there

1651
01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:28.640
for the fans all the way. And I have nothing

1652
01:41:28.680 --> 01:41:31.399
but respect and admiration for Will Wheaton.

1653
01:41:31.479 --> 01:41:33.560
So do you think it had something to do is

1654
01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:36.920
because he thinks that Trek fans are the best fans.

1655
01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:41.560
I think he thinks that absolutely. I think he thinks

1656
01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:42.199
that for sure.

1657
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:48.680
All right, So I got a new perspective.

1658
01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:54.439
On Will Wheaton when I never read the original biography,

1659
01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:59.079
but when he came up with the revived, when he

1660
01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:01.359
went back and he.

1661
01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:07.720
Brought the biography where he read, took the biography and put.

1662
01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:11.520
Footnotes in the whole thing, and I think he gave

1663
01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:13.880
me an entirely new perspective of Will Wheaton.

1664
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:17.680
And I think he was a little too young when he.

1665
01:42:17.640 --> 01:42:23.319
Wrote his biography originally as an older Will Wheaton and

1666
01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:27.000
a representative Drtrich. How he re wrote his book I

1667
01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:31.680
think was fascinating and inside to who Will Wheaton is

1668
01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:35.640
and has the character that I think we a lot

1669
01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:38.520
more respect than we did then.

1670
01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:44.520
And I'd love to get him on the podcast absolutely

1671
01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.600
and Charles Story.

1672
01:42:49.960 --> 01:42:53.479
Star Trek fans are traditioning to get another puplic character

1673
01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:57.239
of their own. All the town statue Star Trick has

1674
01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:00.000
given the fans mirrored wonderful characters over the year.

1675
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:01.800
Here at the point where fans.

1676
01:43:01.479 --> 01:43:05.479
Are crafted from real life tributes to the space stars

1677
01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:08.159
and the value they uphold.

1678
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:09.319
As members of Starfleet.

1679
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:13.199
Considering that's the case, it was only a matter of

1680
01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:15.520
times where someone had the idea.

1681
01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:22.560
And to honor a member Church of Next Generation and

1682
01:43:22.600 --> 01:43:23.600
Deep Spaces.

1683
01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:28.039
Nine at someone known for being the most important person Starfleet.

1684
01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:29.399
That's right.

1685
01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:35.319
The efforts of being made geitla Meini's Miles O'Brien.

1686
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:36.000
His own statue.

1687
01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:39.199
For those who haven't seen the Change our Work petition,

1688
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:43.720
the goal is to erect the statue of Miles O'Brien

1689
01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:48.159
in the character's hometown of Burnley, which is a course

1690
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:52.319
in Ireland. While a statue of Miles o brand is

1691
01:43:52.359 --> 01:43:56.600
a great idea, it is not whole highly unique as

1692
01:43:56.600 --> 01:44:00.319
a tribute Church or Glower Decks first showcase statue two

1693
01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:05.760
Miles O'Brien in season one episode Temporal Eddache, the Dankes

1694
01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:09.840
engineer receives an honor for being the most important person Surfleet,

1695
01:44:10.560 --> 01:44:14.960
which series Mike McKennon later told star Trek dot Com

1696
01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:21.000
was because he represented the ideas of lower deckers. He

1697
01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:24.359
was a crew man who worked his way up historically

1698
01:44:24.359 --> 01:44:28.000
a ladder all the way to the prestigious teaching position

1699
01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:32.399
at Stirfleet Academy, raising a family in the process. Star

1700
01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:36.720
Trek is a USAI that sails most of it's work

1701
01:44:36.760 --> 01:44:40.439
in Anada these days, but it's a franchise and it's

1702
01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:44.880
celebrated worldwide. Well, the SDE does it's best to represent

1703
01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:48.239
all the cultures and humans and values. It's fair to

1704
01:44:48.239 --> 01:44:51.399
say fans outside of North America don't get quite so

1705
01:44:51.560 --> 01:44:56.199
much fun seeing the cast at conventions or attack or

1706
01:44:56.239 --> 01:45:01.479
attending events hosted by Paramount Plus. Fan needed something cool

1707
01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:07.520
to embrace. Actually I disagree, because I think there are

1708
01:45:07.560 --> 01:45:14.279
a couple of international convention and I don't know how

1709
01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:17.159
they're attended, but I'm pretty sure they're probably well attended.

1710
01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:23.119
I think it'd be interesting to see what people in

1711
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:24.319
Ireland think about it.

1712
01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:30.960
Yeah, and you know what, we can have Leslie Hoffman

1713
01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:33.479
come on, because she just took a trip to Ireland

1714
01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:38.319
to a Nightmare on Elm Street convention that she was

1715
01:45:38.319 --> 01:45:40.960
invited to over there, so we can get her opinion

1716
01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:44.800
as to how popular Star Trek really is over in Ireland.

1717
01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:49.000
That would be cool, and let's see, we've got we've

1718
01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:50.720
got it. I don't know, David, we got enough time

1719
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:52.720
to squeeze in one more story. What do you think?

1720
01:45:53.319 --> 01:45:55.760
Oh do you think we can go more than two hours?

1721
01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:57.760
Yeah? We can do it?

1722
01:45:58.479 --> 01:46:03.279
All right? Cool this one. I'm not entirely sure how

1723
01:46:03.319 --> 01:46:05.039
they found this out. I mean, I know, we've got

1724
01:46:05.039 --> 01:46:08.920
really good telescopes and everything, but there's a planet exactly

1725
01:46:08.960 --> 01:46:14.079
where Star Trek said Vulcans should be. Astrophysicists found just

1726
01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:18.479
found a planet orbiting the star HD two six nine

1727
01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:23.680
six five, sixteen late years away from Earth. Anybody planning

1728
01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:28.680
on building a warp engine anytime soon, but anyway, finding

1729
01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:32.800
extra planets is always fun, and the fact that this

1730
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:37.399
one is in star's habital zone, where liquid water could

1731
01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:41.840
exist on its surface, is a bonus.

1732
01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:42.880
But that's not.

1733
01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:48.359
Why people are particularly cite about the announcement. HD two

1734
01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:52.760
six nine sixty five sounds like a bog identification god

1735
01:46:52.920 --> 01:46:59.239
by forty il danny a A the star orbited by

1736
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:06.359
spocks world in Star Trek. That means they found vulcan Okay, fine,

1737
01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:11.000
they found a real world analog to the completely fictional world.

1738
01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:14.600
But you can't blame Star Trek fan for being excited.

1739
01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:18.800
The new planet is a super Earth orbiting the star

1740
01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:24.439
h HD two six nine six five. Say that. Try

1741
01:47:24.439 --> 01:47:28.239
to saying that three time fast, which is only sixteen

1742
01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:31.439
light years from Earth, making it the closest super Earth

1743
01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:40.039
orbiting another Sun like star. Oh so, the lead author

1744
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:44.079
gion G said in a statement, So he quotes again,

1745
01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:47.560
the planet is roughly twice the size of Earth and

1746
01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:52.239
orbits the star with a forty two day period, just

1747
01:47:52.319 --> 01:47:55.479
inside the stars of the most habitable zone.

1748
01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:56.680
Unquote.

1749
01:47:57.159 --> 01:48:00.920
The resources don't yet know what kind of planet the

1750
01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:04.439
real life vulcan is. It could be a big old

1751
01:48:04.560 --> 01:48:08.399
version of the rocky Earth, but it could also be

1752
01:48:08.680 --> 01:48:13.920
the gaseous planet, something like a point of pine size Neptune.

1753
01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:19.520
Without more data, we won't know. But luckily we're about

1754
01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:30.000
to get more data. Data. NASA's tes Tess satellite will

1755
01:48:30.039 --> 01:48:34.159
be looking towards the star later this year, and if

1756
01:48:34.199 --> 01:48:40.199
the planet transit transics, we could get more information about

1757
01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:44.880
its density or atmosphere. So I don't know, do you

1758
01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:48.680
guys think that we're able to seize that fars? I mean,

1759
01:48:49.239 --> 01:48:51.960
the sixteen light year seems a little far affected to me,

1760
01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:54.600
but I mean it's kind of cool that we are

1761
01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:55.439
discovering planets.

1762
01:48:55.479 --> 01:48:59.039
I guess, yeah, No, I mean, I think it's it's

1763
01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:02.359
totally with the technology that we have these days. We

1764
01:49:02.479 --> 01:49:06.439
have ways of using the way that light is transmitted

1765
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:11.199
to us to understand things like the density of atmospheres

1766
01:49:11.199 --> 01:49:13.399
and things, you know, where they're talking about if the

1767
01:49:13.439 --> 01:49:17.640
planet transists. This is like going across the surface of

1768
01:49:17.680 --> 01:49:20.920
a star, because it's really hard to see.

1769
01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:22.840
Planets that are that far away, and the.

1770
01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:25.319
Only times that you can really see them that well

1771
01:49:25.960 --> 01:49:28.479
are when they go in front of a star and

1772
01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:32.039
then you can see their shadow and be able to

1773
01:49:32.039 --> 01:49:33.119
measure things about them.

1774
01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:34.720
So this is fantastic.

1775
01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:39.000
The fact that it's just inside a habitable zone and

1776
01:49:39.520 --> 01:49:43.720
is twice the size of Earth just screams Vulcan, Like

1777
01:49:43.720 --> 01:49:46.920
if you're into planetary stuff, like, that's exactly how big

1778
01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:49.560
Vulcan's supposed to be, and it's supposed to be super

1779
01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:51.720
hot and not have a lot of liquid water on it,

1780
01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:55.079
which I would assume that a planet within just inside

1781
01:49:55.119 --> 01:49:57.039
the habitable zone would be pretty darn hot.

1782
01:49:57.159 --> 01:49:59.359
So I don't know, I think this is kind of cool.

1783
01:49:59.560 --> 01:50:03.159
I yeah, you know, it's a fun thing for sure.

1784
01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:05.800
Yeah, I thought it was a cool story. I thought

1785
01:50:05.800 --> 01:50:10.279
it was fun. So to let you guys know, we

1786
01:50:10.319 --> 01:50:14.359
are going to be having Tim Russ, mister Tuvac himself

1787
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:19.119
on the podcast on the seventh, so mark your calendars

1788
01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:21.800
you want to be ready for that. You can send

1789
01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.000
your questions. You can go to our Truck Talking dot

1790
01:50:25.039 --> 01:50:28.079
com and you'll see the little blue talkback mic in

1791
01:50:28.159 --> 01:50:30.760
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1792
01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:33.880
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1793
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:36.520
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1794
01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:38.640
him answer it on the air. So you have plenty

1795
01:50:38.720 --> 01:50:41.159
of time to get us your questions. Go to trek

1796
01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:44.520
Talking dot com, click on the little blue talkback mic

1797
01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:47.800
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1798
01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:50.680
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1799
01:50:50.960 --> 01:50:53.279
And of course, while you're at trek Talking dot com,

1800
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1801
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1802
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1803
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1804
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1805
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We'd love to mention your name on a future fan

1810
01:51:20.840 --> 01:51:23.079
shout out. So what do you guys think about the

1811
01:51:23.079 --> 01:51:25.399
new studio? I think it went pretty well. I think

1812
01:51:25.399 --> 01:51:26.319
it worked out good.

1813
01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:27.600
Yeah, I mean I don't think that.

1814
01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:29.600
I think audio quality is good.

1815
01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:33.159
I think that we have some I'll be really interested

1816
01:51:33.159 --> 01:51:35.840
to hear what the final product sounds like in terms

1817
01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:39.079
of balance, because I know that we've all experienced various balance.

1818
01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:39.720
Issues throughout the show.

1819
01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:41.560
But it could be that as people hear it, it

1820
01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:42.880
sounds amazing. I don't know.

1821
01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:43.479
We'll see.

1822
01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:46.199
Yeah, we'll see when it's all. When all is said

1823
01:51:46.239 --> 01:51:48.760
and done, we do have the ability to go live.

1824
01:51:49.399 --> 01:51:51.520
We haven't done that yet because this is our first

1825
01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:55.039
show with this new system, but once David and I

1826
01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:58.840
can test it out, we'll do some live shows for

1827
01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:01.039
you guys as well. We're also going to be doing

1828
01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:04.520
some videos because we have the ability now to do

1829
01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:07.640
video shows, and we're going to be doing comic Corner

1830
01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:09.640
book milk. We're going to be bringing all kinds of

1831
01:52:09.720 --> 01:52:12.279
great new stuff for you guys in the future, so

1832
01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:14.640
keep your eye out. It's going to be some fun

1833
01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:17.479
stuff with Trek Talking. So I just want to say

1834
01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:20.560
thank you so much to Paul for hanging out in

1835
01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:22.720
trek talking with us. He had to go, but thank

1836
01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:24.840
you so much, Paul. It was great to have you on.

1837
01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:26.960
And of course thank you to Eric for hanging out

1838
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:29.279
in trek talking with us to night. Thank you so much, Eric,

1839
01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:30.000
do you bet?

1840
01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:31.479
Thank you guys, always a good time.

1841
01:52:31.960 --> 01:52:33.960
And of course thank you so much to our very

1842
01:52:33.960 --> 01:52:35.920
own Charles for hanging out and trek talking.

1843
01:52:35.720 --> 01:52:39.720
With us as well. Thank you Charles talking. And it's

1844
01:52:40.159 --> 01:52:41.439
get back to the show again.

1845
01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:46.640
It is a lot of fun and I miss it

1846
01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:48.720
when we don't do it. And of course thank you

1847
01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:53.439
to our intrepid engineer mister Scottie himself, David, thank you

1848
01:52:53.479 --> 01:52:55.800
for hanging out and trek talking with us. David. I

1849
01:52:55.840 --> 01:52:57.760
know that you've given her all she's got. Captain.

1850
01:52:58.520 --> 01:53:01.880
Hey, I try do my best cottage action in another

1851
01:53:02.319 --> 01:53:07.359
video or audio. But yeah, it's been been kind of

1852
01:53:07.399 --> 01:53:09.479
kind of fun. It's been very great.

1853
01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:14.079
But I want to see, David if we can put

1854
01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:17.000
a video up in that screen right there where. We're

1855
01:53:17.039 --> 01:53:18.880
looking at the Bird of Prey right now. I want

1856
01:53:18.920 --> 01:53:20.359
to see if we can get a video in there.

1857
01:53:20.479 --> 01:53:22.560
That's something we got to work on. And of course

1858
01:53:22.640 --> 01:53:25.800
i'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim, and I just

1859
01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:28.560
want to say to everybody, please stay safe and be

1860
01:53:28.640 --> 01:53:32.560
good to each other, and remember Star Trek fans are

1861
01:53:32.960 --> 01:53:37.880
the best fans. Hailing frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody.

1862
01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:49.880
He all stations ready for departure, sir, some problem, right,

1863
01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:52.720
I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way on missions

1864
01:53:52.720 --> 01:53:53.039
will build.

1865
01:53:53.079 --> 01:53:57.920
Said, Oh no, I'm sure most will be much more interesting.

1866
01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:03.159
Let's see what's up there.

1867
01:54:05.560 --> 01:54:06.079
Engaged