Dec. 19, 2025

Episode 665 Star Trek Khan audio dram episode 9 "Eternity's Face" review

Episode 665 Star Trek Khan audio dram episode 9 "Eternity's Face" review
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In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the Treksperts engage in lively discussions about the latest Star Trek news, including the upcoming Starfleet Academy series. They share personal experiences, fan shout outs, and trivia challenges, all while emphasizing the importance of community and positivity within the Star Trek fandom. The conversation highlights the excitement for new content and the diverse opinions among fans, encouraging acceptance and understanding. In this episode, the hosts delve into the complexities of Khan's character and his evolution throughout the series. They discuss the surprising twist of Dr. Lear being Khan's daughter, the emotional themes of grief and transformation, and the mixed fan reactions to the series. The finale is recapped, highlighting key moments and character dynamics, while also exploring the potential for future stories within the Star Trek universe. Overall, the conversation reflects on the impact of the audio drama format and the legacy of Khan as a character, and remembering Gil "Buck Rogers" Gerard. Let's See What's Out There...ENGAGE!
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Well, good evening, trek Is and trek Is around the globe.

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It is Thursday, December eighteen, twenty twenty five, Episode six

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hundred and sixty five, our final show of twenty twenty five,

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believe it or not, and we're gonna have a lot

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of fun. But before we go too far, I want

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to go around and introduce my awesome, my incredible treks.

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Start out with the Miracle Worker himself, David. David's out

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in Portland. How you doing, David?

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I have a rough week, but yeah, I got some Okay,

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I'm excited to talk about trek though.

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It's going to be fun we're going to wrap up con.

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What does CON need with a starship wrong movie? Sorry?

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We also have from Portland a very own toy guy, Paul.

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How are you doing tonight.

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I'm big well, Uncle Jam, I'm doing well. As David intimated,

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we are having craziness out here in the Pacific Northwest.

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A big atmospheric river of apocalyptic proportions has been hitting

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us on the chin these last couple of days, a big,

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big wallop today. In fact, if you remember how brainy

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it was at the end of Apocalypse Now and Colonel

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when Willard is sneaking into Colonel Curtsi's compound, it's that

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kind of rain. It is just super heavy and torrential.

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So hopefully we none of us lose power. But it's

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getting crazy, getting crazy out here.

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We had eight inches of snow and now it's raining

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and it's going to melt all the snow away for Christmas,

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no more white prison. And it's going to be fifty,

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which is unbelievably warm for hard neck of the Woods.

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And let's stick with our Portland theme and swing on

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down the eraic. How you doing tonight?

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I am doing pretty good. I'm getting excited here because

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I'm about forty eight hours away from seeing a Klingon

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Christmas Carol at the TPS Center Theater up in the

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Seattle area, going to a show Saturday night. I don't

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know what to expect, but if you mix a Christmas

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Carol with Klingon's nothing but amazingness can occur.

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So you're gonna take a lot of photos for us, right.

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I will take as many photos as they will let

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me take. Yes, I absolutely will will put them on

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the on the slideshow here for all our patrons next show.

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Yeah, well, at least you got to touch my.

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You know what I hear? Battleth is leaning mean man, no question.

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I got the best.

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Yeah, there's does Jim's batleth point laughter. Right, I'm just scarious.

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There we go.

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It's direction.

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How did I not guess that?

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Now, let's also swim out to last I guess and

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say hello to Charles. How are you doing tonight? Charles?

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I'm doing good. When it breaks almost here and the

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weather okay, you guys are getting the rain. Jim's getting

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the unusual fifties. Our temperature should be in the fifties,

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not the sixties and your seventies. We got a warm

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spell that's very unusual.

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The weather outside is frightful, yes, a bit delightful. So

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that's all I can say. And also we have with

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us VVS out in Virginia. How you doing tonight?

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Hey, doing all right? Glad to be here. Don't have

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any Well, it is kind of warmer than usual in

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the fifties, but I think either tomorrow or the next

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day it's supposed to drop down again. I prefer the

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cold weather. I want to be up your way, Jim,

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somewhere in New England. So that's the plan at some

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point in time.

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Well, it looks. It looks great on post cars, and

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it looks wonderful when you see it on TV and stuff,

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but the reality is a little bit different.

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Oh, I know, I lived in I get sick. Yeah,

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I know. I lived I lived in the snow belt

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outside of Erie, Pennsylvania, so I know that's where I

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grew to like it oddly enough, So I don't know.

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So tonight, guys, we're going to be talking wrapping up

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our coverage of Starts for a Con the radio drama

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episode non Eternity Face, and we're gonna have Paul give

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us a quick rundown because it's been so long you

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probably don't remember it. So PA's going to catch us

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all and then they're going to talk about that. We

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also have at and after we thank fns, just like

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you are on the goal for disappointing us here. We

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also have trivia with Uncle Jim tonight, and I'm going

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to give you a little little hint. It's before Star Trek,

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all right, So I've been working on this one for

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a little while.

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David, we're sitting at David are going to go get

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a drink.

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I tried.

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I tried to quick ones that I think David's gonna know,

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but we'll see. Okay, I can google it. I don't

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have anything queens, so I'll tell you that. But hopefully

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it's not not too had. It'll be it'll be all.

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We also have our sci fi birthdays. We can find

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out what sci fi actors you share a birthday with

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this week, and in our Star Trek news, we're going

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to say goodbye to a SIDEI hero that we lost recently.

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So that, guys, is what we have planned for tonight.

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If you go all over to our Facebook page, Truck

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talking and beyond. At the top of the page, you

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see a pain post, Live Long and prosper asking where

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you're listening to prompt listening to get my attention, look

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for heart next your name from your truly and then

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you're going to be featured in a future and shout

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it out. So what do you say if we get

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started with our fans shout out?

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Eric, heck, yeah, let's do it man. Our very first

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fan shout out this week goes out to Carlos Sanchez

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montoy R down in Quito, Ecuador. Carlos, thank you so

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much for supporting us all the way down in Ecuador.

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I bet you're the warmest one of us right now,

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that would be my guess. And hopefully you are hanging

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out with some fellow Star Trek fans, stipp and Jippers,

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perhaps on a Thursday night. Thanks Thanks Carlos. I'll say

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hello this week to Mark cad Mark Cadge is hailing

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from England and Big Country could be anywhere. Mark doesn't

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want to let us know, but Mark, wherever you may

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be on that wonderful island, we say thank you so

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much for supporting our podcast and I love I love

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your country.

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I really do.

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I would also like to say hello this week to

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Raywin Hagland, who's hailing from New Zealand, sending us that

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New Zealand flag waving proudly in the virtual wind of

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my screen. Raywind, thank you so much for saying hello

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to us, and for putting an emoji down to catch

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Jim's attention, which is not easy to catch. And last,

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but not least, on my list, I would like to

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say hello this week to Terry Cullen and Terry Cullen

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is hailing from Sidney, Australia, all the way yes down under.

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Thank you Terry for supporting our podcast. We've determined not

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quite on the other side of the planet, but just

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about as far as you can get and almost on

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the other side.

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Plans that's correct. So I have a shout out to

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Gwyneth Ann Norwell who says cheers from southern Ontario, Canada

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and a cute little smiley face emoji with purple star eyes. Next,

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Aaron Blaine says hello to us from Florida, not sure where,

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but hopefully everything is well out that way. Next, Susie

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Crouch rig from Michigan, so thank you for saying hello

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to us. Susie. And then last but not least, Della j.

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Hoak from Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. Thank you so much for being

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a fan. Onto you, Charles, who do you have?

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Oh? Thank you?

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V Well, maybe we got friends with friends of Aaron

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because Shawie Johnson is also from Florida, so I'm not

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sure where in Florida. Maybe they're they're both hanging out

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in disney World. And then there's and then welcome Diane

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Antonio from California, so maybe they're in disney World and

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she's a Disneyland. And then welcome to kat Kidsdale from Gilbert, Arizona.

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I actually do know where Gilbert, Arizona is because I

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lived there for a little while.

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Uh east of Phoenix.

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And then welcome to John Diaz from Shelton, Connecticut. Welcome John.

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I think Paul wants to spin around and go travel

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the world again.

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Missa, what you said? Sorry?

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I said that's gonna be Oh I think what's a

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spinner around travel the world?

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Oh?

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Okay, thank you, thank you there. I didn't want to

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have you get caught off. Well, we are going to

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move across the entire globe, because you know, Star Trek

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is a series of stories about planets, you know, people

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being involved in things bigger than themselves. So we want

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to acknowledge Star Trek fans that are across the entire planet,

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of which this one is relatively good size. And we're

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going to say hello to our pale Martina Karis in Germany.

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Doesn't say where in Germany Martina resides, but a phenomenal

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part of the world steeped in holiday Christmas markets this

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time of year, so hopefully you're out there enjoying some

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glow wine Martina, wherever you may be. And then down

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the road in Eskelechia, Sweden is Lars Grandlolf. Hello, Lars,

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how are you doing. I'm a big fan of your

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country there and the outlook that people have, which is

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most illuminating and free thinking, so good for you. And

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back to Germany again, there's no rhyme or reason to

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the way they do these things together. It's as random

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as a gamers snooker. Judath Barlev in.

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Berlin, Germany.

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We know Berlin very well, so fantastic to hear from you, Judith.

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We help all of our friends across the globe. We're

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having a great time. And finally, let's pop over across

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the pond there to Essex in the United Kingdom and England,

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to the wonderful realm of Parlow, where Janet Cooper in

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the Great Kingdom United is saying hello to us. Great

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to hear from you, Janet, and to all of our

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friends in Europe and beyond. It is wonderful to know

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that we all have our star trek enthusiasm in common

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to keep us united. So phenomenal to hear from you all,

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Uncle Jim, take it away.

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Thank you so much, Paul. I think I'm going to

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come back to New England here, and we want to

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say thank you to Wendy Foley, who's in Massachusetts, USA.

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I was just there for my nephew's wedding too long ago.

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We also want to say hello and thank you Stephens,

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who's in Sanford, Maine. I believe the home of Stephen King.

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I think all of this stuff takes place in Maine,

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doesn't it. I don't know if it's Sandford, but I

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know he's somewhere in Maine. We also want to say

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hello and thank you to Shannon Williams, who's listening to

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us in Winnwall, New Jersey. Thank you, fannin and a last,

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but not least and definitely not in New England. We

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want to say thank you HANNELO to Shane Wadsmith who's

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in Nashville, Tennessee and says, I'm sixty eight years old

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and been in a tricky sense the beginning that you have,

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my friend, that you have, and that wraps up our

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fan shout outs for this week. As I said earlier,

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if you'd like to be featured in a fan shoutout,

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please head over to Trek Talking and be on look

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for the little post tell us where you're probably some emojis,

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so you can head over to Patreon and become a

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patron there for only two dollars a month, and then

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you can send us your picture just like me and

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Eric there with a truck kinder roka and put your

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picture up on the screen where you'll be immortalized for

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all of eternity. It's me and my family meeting Gates McFadden.

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Your picture can be up there as well. Please please

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do that if you can, and that wraps up our

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fans shout outs for this week. And now it's time

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for some well not really Star Trek polls, but kind

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of Star Trek polls. So I'm going to play the

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will all try, all right, Robby Lenna.

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So I'm going to jump up on my soapbox here

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for just a minute. I had put up a post

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on our truck talking page about Starfreed Academy, which was

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like the most popular post we had well well over

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one thousand plus responses, and it hit me thinking, what

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is going on? What is the problem? Why is starfred

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Academy such dividing the fan base so much? So I

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wanted to talk about that a little bit here, and

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I just wanted to say I wanted to throw out

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the conversation by saying, I remember when TNG came out,

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things hated it. It was at conventions where they booed,

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oh Faith came out. We can't have a show without

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the enterprise. It can't be on a space station. Boohoo,

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who Voyager came out? It's Star Trek. It's not every

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time the show comes out hater come out and droves.

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different since well, of course now we have the Internet

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back and we didn't. And you know, I'll be the

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first one to say that not all Star Trek is wonderful.

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my favorite movie has to be okay, this one, right,

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I love this movie and a lot of people don't,

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but that's my opinion that it's my favorite movie. There's

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a difference between opinions and just hatred for no reason.

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in my opinion, all Star Trek is Star Trek, and

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the core of Star Trek is something that I happen

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to believe in, something that I do with and I

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see infant diversity and infinite comminations, and Star Trek has

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a message that I strongly believe in and I think

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we need it more than and that's acceptance, empathy, understanding,

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all these things that seem to be lacking today. And

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even the worst Star Trek at its core is based

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on those simple ideals. So when I hear people say

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it's not real Star Trek, I want to say, well, obviously,

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if you're going to say that you have no idea

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what Starstrek really is. Maybe you don't like Discovery, that's cool.

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Maybe you don't like strange New Worlds, that's cool. But

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to disparage everybody who does because in your opinion, it's

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not real Star Trek. That doesn't fly in my book.

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Academy because I feel that Starfleet Academy is giving us

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exactly what Star Trek does best, has done best, and

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continues to always do best, and that is give us

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something different, give us something new, and show us something

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we haven't seen before. TNG did it? When after tos

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Every Star Trek series that comes along is always different

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than the one that we had previously. And that's what

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keeps Star Trek alive, That's what keeps it changing, and

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that's what brings fresh new blood into Star Trek. If

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it wasn't for JJ, how many Star Trek fans wouldn't

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have discovered Star Trek. I mean, I told the story

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a while ago. I don't think my current trucks births

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were around well, child may have been. When Star Trek

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two thousand and nine came, I wanted to go see it.

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my daughter did. She was in college at the time,

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and her and her friends said, oh yeah, we'll go

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see Star Trek with you. And I said, you want

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to come see Star Trek with the old man? And

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we did. And we're at the theater and after it ended,

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all the kids, anybody that's younger than me, they're hanging

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around out in the lobby and I'm like Yoda, the

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lies of will save, you know, sharing wisdom about Star

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Trek that they didn't know because they had never seen

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it before. So if it wasn't for JJ, a lot

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of these kids wouldn't be in the Star Treks. So

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we don't the spare people that want to enjoy Star

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Trek and uh, you know, give them the chance to

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enjoy it the way we all got to enjoy it,

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And don't judge people. If you don't like it, that's okay,

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but you know, don't don't spread hatred because that's not

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what Star Trek is all about, infinite diversity in combination.

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So I'm going to forego the Starfleet Academy Paul that

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we did and you know, just get some opinions from

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my truck experts about the situation. So that's that's where

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I stand. I'm really psyched to see a Jaden car,

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a full blooded Klingon who wants to be a doctor.

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I'm really psyched about that because all we've ever seeing

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Klingons do with way back around and had people on Wednesdays.

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doing something other than killing people and being a Klingon fan.

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I'm really excited to see what they do with that character.

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It was Warf that got me into Star Treks, so

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I'm interested to see where they go with that character.

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So he's the one that I'm really excited about. Obviously.

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The the Klingon Jim Hadar, we talked about a couple

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of shows ago. I'm excited to see where they go

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with her character and to find out some of her

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backstory as well. So that's that's my take on it.

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So how about you, Eric, Yeah, you.

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Jim.

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I'm pretty excited about it. I think that there are

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specific things that I'm interested in like these characters that

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you've been talking about in ways that they can kind

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of thirty seconds centurize more, you know, more of these

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alien races and stuff. You know, there's no secret that

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I think that some of the trailers have caused me

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to be a little bit cautious about my optimism. But

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I always go into every new Star Trek situation, hopefully

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with an open mind, and judge a book after I've

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read it, not just by the cover of the marketing.

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So so yeah, anyway, that's about all I have to

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say about it. I'm I'm pretty excited. I think it's

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going to be great. I've been surprised at how you know, surprise,

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not surprised at how many people have been kind of

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not really into it. But you know, there are plenty

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of people who were into it too, So it's just

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you tend to be really loud when you don't have

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I think you know. Something else to Eric is that

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Starfleet Academy is going to be the first I don't

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know the years because I don't follow you know, the

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fake This is the first Starfleet Academy class since you

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know what in Star Trek world, what two hundred years

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or something since Earth left.

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We have a whole a whole time that we know

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nothing about, that we can explore, and we get to

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see this first Academy class. I'll graduate from the Academy.

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I think it's going to be something special and something good.

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So I'm really I mean, one thing that Starfleet Academy

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has the opportunity to do here, I think, with its

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new setting and with this diversity of caste and that

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kind of stuff, is hopefully tell us new types of stories.

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I think that on occasion, newer star Trek goes back

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to old wells and relies on reference points a little bit.

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Those are fun. Those are great as little aside things

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as as seasoning on the beautiful piece of meat that

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you've growed perfectly, right, but the beautiful piece of meat

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has to be good, right.

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Well, how about you vig what you think?

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Yeah, I am looking forward to watching it. But what

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you said was perfect about you know, whatever I mean

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you had that It just totally went out of my head.

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everything you said the whole infinite diversity, infinite combinations, which

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I've seen some really nasty comments out there, not necessarily

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in our page, but on the I try to scroll past.

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and I have to scroll past so I don't see

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something ignorant and hateful that somebody has said because I

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don't want to get into it with them. But you know,

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that's it's true. It's like, if you don't understand the

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basic principles Starfleet and star Trek with you know, Gene

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Roddenberry's vision, then I don't understand how you can be like,

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are you just a fringe fan and you just are

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there because you've got the cool pew pew, you know,

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alien stuff. I don't know, but I'm hoping. I just

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don't know how people can be so negative with only

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seeing a couple of trailers. But like you said, they

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did the same with all the others. I recently watched

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the documentary that was done about DS nine, What We

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Left Behind, and they were reading because then it was

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You've got letters, and they were reading some of the

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letters that that people had sent, and I'm sure there

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were plenty of hateful ones there, but just just very disparaging.

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You know, this isn't Star Trek, it's you know, what

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is it? What is this weird? You know the this

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uh what do they call Techi fascist Cardassian? I sooar

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whatever he called it. Yeah, yeah, So anyway, I am

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looking forward to it.

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I just.

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Well, let me just say that some of the stuff

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that's being said that is uh they're complaining about, oh

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this is all DEI and this is all woke, And

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I know exactly where that type of comment is coming

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from the sort of people, and I just say, I'm

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sorry you're like that. One of these days you will

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realize just how wrong you were about, you know, spewing

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this hate because somebody led you into it, or maybe

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it was there all along. I don't know, but just

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just give it a chance and just you know, be kind,

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uh be kind to people, because I mean, that's what

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we say at the end of the show. But I

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don't know, we need we need kindness and acceptance and love,

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especially after this rough week. We need it more than ever.

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So all right, I'll get off my soapbox.

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Now, who else ahead? How about you, Paul?

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What do you think I always I get excited anytime

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this new content. Right, I'm you know, diehard star Trek fan.

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There's a lot of stuff that I'm you know, less

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than enthused about from some of these shows. Like you know,

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for example, I do find for the last you know,

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three or four years under like the Kurtzman production aesthetic.

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There's a sameness to the way a lot of the

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episodes look in a way, a lot of the stories

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are told all right, and I hope that this show

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has a chance to break out of that a little

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bit and go more towards the direction of like Eric's

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talking about more fresh stories. You got a lot of

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money showing up here. They've already got season two Roland,

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so season one must have been fairly satisfying and had

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some good dynamics to them and gave.

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Them a lot of confidence. Right.

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So I mean all we've really seen so far is marketing, right.

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I mean, so you know, and some of the marketing

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is always going to be like, you know, we want

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to make it as big and exciting as possible so

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that people will turn in.

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So they're going to show them more extreme you know,

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if you will.

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Cheap seats scenes to kind of get people enthused, right,

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That's normal marketing, right, I want to I'm not going

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to judge judge it to I've seen it, right, and

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they got ten episodes of the first season, so that's

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a lot of real estate to cover, right, So I'm

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cautiously optimistic. I mean, there's been some scenes that look

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a little clanky. We're going to have to just be

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okay with the idea that this is a younger group

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of actors, a younger group of characters, right, who are

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coming up. I think everybody who is a next gen

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fan remembers with a lot of funness, how great the

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Starfleet Academy episodes could be. Like when Wesley Crusher was there.

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You know, some of those episodes were just pure gold, right,

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and this is going to be a different Academy to

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some degrees because it's far off in the future, but

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it's you know, young people going through the trial of

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growing up and understanding the world is a great landscape

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to tell stories, you know, it really is. And I

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really want to compliment the casting folks on this show

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because you know, you've got yeah, a lot of okay.

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Some people have joked around that as a nine O

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two one zero look to it, right, But over here

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on the other side, you're counterpointing with two just heavy

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hitters acting wise, right, Paul Giamatti and Holly Hunter. Right,

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I mean they're great. Holly Hunter in particular is just

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so formidable.

471
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:43.440
She's just awesome.

472
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.240
So give them some time, right.

473
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:45.839
You Know.

474
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:48.200
The one thing I don't think is a good idea

475
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:51.359
to do is to watch episode one and then judge

476
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.279
it right away, right, and just say, okay, well that's

477
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.480
what the show is. You know, very often with television, right,

478
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:01.400
you need four or five episodes to really find your right.

479
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:06.200
First season of like The Expanse had some clunker stuff

480
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.640
going on in it, right, and it ended up morphing

481
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:12.880
into one of the most brilliant, sophisticated science fiction shows ever.

482
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:16.920
So give them some time to explore and find their way, right.

483
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:18.680
And I think it's you know, I want to support

484
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.920
it and be optimistic, and I think most fans do

485
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:22.920
as well. I mean, you know, I'm not going to

486
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:27.079
blindly follow it, right. What I don't like is where

487
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:31.519
there's the blind obedience to following anything. We've seen that

488
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:33.599
cause a lot of problems in our culture lately. Right,

489
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.759
It's just like, but it's the recognition syndrome oh, look,

490
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.559
I recognize something that they're making a reference to from whatever,

491
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:46.279
season three of Starturing Voyager. Right, Therefore I recognize it.

492
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.680
I am going to like it, and that makes it good.

493
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.640
We see that a lot, and just recognizing something you're

494
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.640
familiar with is bad critique. Don't just you know, fall

495
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.279
in love with something because it contains an element you recognized, right.

496
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.559
We see that on lower decks way too often. So,

497
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.000
like Eric said, you know, the core prime principle is

498
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:07.640
good writing. That's what I want to see is I

499
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.079
want to see good writing. I have a lot of

500
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.559
faith in this cast to pull that off. And you know,

501
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:14.839
we live in a really toxic environment these days, friends,

502
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.640
we really really really do, especially and you know I'm

503
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.279
a big Star Wars fan as well, and you see

504
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.559
just as much stuff there. You know, they cast a

505
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.240
person of color, Oh my god, the racists come crawling out.

506
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:24.920
Of the right.

507
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.000
We're seeing a lot of that right now. We're seeing

508
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.720
all and not just that, right, We're seeing a lot

509
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.720
of folks who just hate women, right, or hate women

510
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.720
who don't correspond to their idea of a female esthetic right,

511
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.440
who maybe are a little bit uh, you know, different

512
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.400
shape than they're used to, and they just come out

513
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.720
with the vitriol and the rancor and a lot of

514
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.799
the hatred that Jim's talking about. Right, So my recommendation

515
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.319
is when you run into somebody like that, there's this

516
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:56.960
marvelous button called block. They've lost the privilege to communicate

517
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.599
with you, right, block them. If our face Facebook group

518
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.400
is a privileged, magical space, we want to cultivate it

519
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:05.839
and make it a warm and welcoming place for everybody.

520
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.759
Somebody joins that Facebook group and they are behaving in

521
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:16.160
a way that we don't like. Out cut them out, Yeah,

522
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.119
out their We don't need them, we don't need If

523
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:19.839
somebody's coming in here and they start with the anti

524
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.519
you know it's too woke andd dird she's too fat,

525
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:24.799
those fuckers.

526
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:24.839
Need to go.

527
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.039
I mean, no warning, they're out. We don't need that,

528
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.960
we don't need that. Society is in danger of falling apart,

529
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.480
and we want a better society, a society more like

530
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:38.720
what Star Trek's Ethos spouses. So if somebody misbehaves, act

531
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:43.200
like a bartender eighty six there ass that's what I recommend,

532
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:45.400
And Uncle Jim's got the power. But just you know,

533
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.839
don't don't take it, don't don't put up with that bullshit, right,

534
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.160
just throw them out. We don't need them. We don't

535
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.440
need them. We want positivity in this group. And respectful

536
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:58.119
critique is welcome. Respectful critique. If this is something you

537
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.240
don't like, that's that's part of the whole thing. Right,

538
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.200
we can disagree, but disagree like somebody who's you know,

539
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.839
got a spine and a soul. Don't just be a

540
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.720
blanket duf us, right or a shit it. We don't

541
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.200
need it, you know, and just get out. You know,

542
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.079
we have plenty of other fans who know how to

543
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.039
bay of themselves, and a lot of them live in Europe.

544
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.160
So but you know, so looking at you America, I

545
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:26.240
mean a lot of very toxic fans behaving in a

546
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.720
very inappropriate way. So if you want to hang out

547
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:30.519
with us, we want to hang out with you, but

548
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.079
be nice. Clean up your egg, you know, as I

549
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.119
bought it for a long time. And yeah, and my

550
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.680
you know, my mantra we used to have tending bar

551
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.240
was very quirky and right.

552
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.720
Be good or be gone.

553
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:48.559
Yep.

554
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.359
So I think that's that's kind of how we should

555
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.039
be in this group. Right, So I'm excited as hell.

556
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:54.920
I mean, after the Christmas holidays, we just got a

557
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.559
couple of weeks. This show looks I mean, you know

558
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.279
it's going to be perfect right away? Probably not, but

559
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.359
is it going to be entertaining and just you know, wow,

560
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.279
give us a lot of stuff to talk about. Absolutely,

561
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.240
I mean, I'm I mean, just it's we've had a

562
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.640
bit of a drought of no good startup for a

563
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:14.240
while since the last season changed the world. I'm super

564
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.559
excited to get talking about new shows again and to

565
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.319
see some new stories.

566
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:23.240
So bring it on, Bring it on. How about you, Charles,

567
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.559
what do you think? What are your what's your take?

568
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.039
Well, there's one of the comments that I've heard and complaints.

569
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:38.680
It's like, Okay, we're reusing all we're reusing all material. Okay,

570
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:44.119
we went to DS nine, which still was in the

571
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:48.279
tng Era, in Voyager that was still in the tng Era.

572
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:51.519
Then we went to Enterprise. It's like, okay, well Enterprise

573
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:56.000
went back in history, but it's still covering currents. He'll

574
00:33:56.079 --> 00:34:01.759
get reaching towards current material, and Discovery was kind of

575
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:06.680
backtracking a little bit and then moving towards it, and

576
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.400
then strange New world is kind of still hitting in

577
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:19.400
some of the reoccurring history. Strafliet Academy is brand new world. Yes,

578
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.360
we're reaching a little bit of Discovery era, but it's

579
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.760
still all brand new worlds. We don't we haven't discovered

580
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.400
most of what's out there yet. In the uh Strafiet

581
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.239
Academy era. We're seeing species we wan't. We don't know

582
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:39.159
what's that we have species. No, we haven't seen a

583
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.519
Klingon in a while. We haven't seen a Romulan in

584
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.280
a while. What's happened to all these species that we

585
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.239
were used to back in the twenty third, twenty fourth century.

586
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.239
We're gonna get a chance to see these species again.

587
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:58.920
See what's happened to some of the different people. Yes,

588
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:05.480
we do have mixed of a Jim dar mix. Okay, well, okay,

589
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.559
maybe there what's the story? What happened to this?

590
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.639
What happened to these species?

591
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:17.239
Yes, because we're getting new views, it's entirely different culture.

592
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:20.480
The only thing, the only thing we've got from here

593
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:25.400
into the future. We do know that Discovery is going

594
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:31.119
to disappear and get lost sometime in a couple couple

595
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.000
hundred years. Well, I don't think we're ever going to get.

596
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:36.920
That far into the show with that.

597
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.360
So I want to see what they're going to do

598
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.960
with these series, and I'm looking forward to it. I

599
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:48.159
want to see what they're going to do with it. Yes,

600
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:49.920
we might be trying to get a little bit of

601
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.480
a younger audience at the same time, but hey, let's

602
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.519
keep the original original audience and get a new audience

603
00:35:56.599 --> 00:36:02.039
and get a bigger, bigger build a bigger fan base.

604
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.280
Let's just not try to find the negativity and what's

605
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.400
wrong with this series?

606
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:14.039
All right, Well, David, guess what you get to bring

607
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:18.320
up the caboose on this one, Buddy, Hello World.

608
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.599
It's been quite an adventure trying to get from here

609
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.760
to there. But I do have to say I'm actually

610
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:31.199
super excited about this show because, like you guys all said,

611
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:36.519
it's it's new trek h. The idea of new content

612
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:40.079
coming out is always super exciting, and I have to

613
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.440
agree with a lot of everybody else, you know. I mean,

614
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.639
like what Paul said, the idea of the it's the

615
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.440
first couple of episodes gonna be good. Probably not so Yeah,

616
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.679
it's gonna be quite interesting to see how they did it.

617
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.840
I mean, I remember when I first watched TMG. It's

618
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.960
the first season, it was like, WHOA, just weird. But

619
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:07.079
I mean that's I grew up with TMG and that's

620
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.559
what that's what brought me in very first character I

621
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.159
ever saw on TV with Data and I was like, Wow,

622
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.559
this person really relates to me. I'm part robot, so

623
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.280
why not, you know. So, I mean it's just the

624
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:22.079
idea that the uh, the concept of bringing people together

625
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:29.400
from different backgrounds, different diversities and stuff. Yeah, I'm very

626
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.559
excited to see what they can bring to this and

627
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:38.039
hopefully things start to get better. I mean, like what

628
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.440
Jim was saying, Star Trek five should favorite, Discovery wasn't

629
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.199
exactly my favorite, but I've grew on to me, and

630
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:49.960
you know, that's just an opinion that I say. So

631
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.519
to me, the best Star Truk I've ever seen was

632
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:58.920
Deep Base nine. That was my favorite. And yeah, to me,

633
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:03.159
I'm I'm super excited to see where they bring this

634
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:06.119
because the different characters, in the variety of people that

635
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:13.159
they got on the show. I mean, heck, they're bringing

636
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.559
back the old doctor, you know, so it's gonna be like,

637
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.960
is she the same doctor from Voyager? Is she gonna

638
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.519
have a different type of background. I don't know. So

639
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.440
there's a lot of mystery to this. And yes, I

640
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.800
understand that a lot of the trailers that we've changed

641
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:34.320
so far, they haven't really been putting a lot of

642
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.360
enthusiasts into everybody show that. To me, I'm like, yeah,

643
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.679
I'm kind of in the same boat. But I'm not

644
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.320
gonna judge. I'm not gonna just say like I hated

645
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.599
it because I saw the trailer. But to me, I'm

646
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.079
just like, yeah, look, bring it on, see what they

647
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:50.559
can offer. So I'm excited.

648
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.199
All right, Well, they have the guys the treks. Burts

649
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:58.320
has spoken you guys already for some fun.

650
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.320
Sure, sure, I think this.

651
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.480
Segment is gonna be fun. I try my damn this

652
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.639
to tailor each question for each one of you, guys,

653
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.559
so that you know, to challenge you, but not not really,

654
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.360
you know, just have some fun. So before we go there, though,

655
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.519
we have to play our song what is wrong with

656
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:20.280
this Thing Tonight?

657
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:27.199
And you know what that music means. It's once again

658
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.639
time to put on your thinking caps and join us

659
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.280
for Star Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim.

660
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.360
All right, guys, so I try to come up with

661
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.599
something different, something fun, and something unique, and I think

662
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.039
I did. This week's trivia is gonna be before and

663
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:47.159
you're Star Trek. Are you ready, David? This first one

664
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.360
goes to you. So and it's not about Queen and

665
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.199
it's not about flashy guardens, so don't worry about that,

666
00:39:54.840 --> 00:40:00.559
all right, So here we go. In two thousand, Patrick

667
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:05.960
Stewart jumped from the Captain's chair into a wheelchair. Name

668
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:10.719
the superhero franchise and the character that he played two

669
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:16.360
thousand actually with three movies, I believe, alright, three of them.

670
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:26.079
I'm assuming you're talking to about the X Men. Yes,

671
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.360
and his name with Professor Javier.

672
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:34.000
I believe see that. I knew it. I knew it, David,

673
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:40.079
I knew it exactly. Do you redeemed this for the

674
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:41.119
Queen's thing?

675
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.840
So you're on the board, David, You're on the board.

676
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:54.320
Yeah, right up there. Leave this next one. As before,

677
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.920
I've only seeing Commander Jack Ransom on Star Trek lower decks.

678
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.960
Jerry O'Connell played a character called Cueball and starred with

679
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.039
John Riise Davies in the sci fi series that ran

680
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:11.679
from nineteen ninety five to two thousand. Name the series and.

681
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:17.519
The character it was Sliders. It was the series, and

682
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.639
I never actually watched it, even though I'm a I

683
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:25.000
love John Rees Davies. I don't know what his character

684
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.000
name was, but I do. Yeah, but I didn't know

685
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:31.639
it was Slider, so it's a big deal.

686
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:37.679
Was absolutely right, any of the trucks personnel. I thought

687
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.320
you just said his nickname was Cuba.

688
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.320
He said it was Wait, that was his name was Cueball.

689
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:45.760
Wait, his nickname was Cuba.

690
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:47.320
That was actually name.

691
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:48.119
Yeah, I don't know.

692
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:51.840
David knows it.

693
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:53.880
It's Quinn.

694
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.440
Oh my god. David is just on a roll tonight. Guy.

695
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:00.639
He is a fire. He's small.

696
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.440
Yeah, that's right. It was cleaning, that's right. All right,

697
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.760
we're gonna put the pressure on you in New Top, David,

698
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:12.119
all right.

699
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:17.639
Before playing a Starfleet Captain, Patrick Stewart appeared in this

700
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.920
Frank Hubert novel adaptation nineteen eighty four classic sci fi

701
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.599
Bill And you name the movie, and I know you

702
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:27.719
came the movie and character.

703
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.639
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna assume that you're talking about

704
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.679
David Lynch's Dune movie. Yeah, and he played and I

705
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.440
believe he played Gurney Hallick.

706
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:44.880
That's right, my god on on fir alright, So David,

707
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:50.880
I'm gonna take it to you. Remain is best known

708
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.480
as playing Muna Chin Riley on Starturek Strange New World.

709
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.880
Before she wore a Stafleet uniform. She appeared as a

710
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.800
villain in the superhero franchise from two thousand to two

711
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:06.840
thousand and six. Can you name the franchise and the

712
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:11.400
villain that she played? Actually, I know you can, because

713
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:12.199
you already named it.

714
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:26.360
Oh it's a queen queen right, No, I honestly don't

715
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:30.800
remember Hood being in a villain. I don't think I've

716
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:31.320
ever seen her.

717
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:33.519
Is she a villain or she just misunderstood.

718
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.280
I think she's just misunderstood.

719
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.079
Well, to be fair, you yeah, you wouldn't recognize her

720
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.440
because she's She's got a lot of like makeup on,

721
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:48.559
so it would be hard to She's.

722
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.960
Naked and blue. She's not an Andorian.

723
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:58.320
I'm assuming if since blue is it the Marvel universe?

724
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.960
Ses was something w didn't she.

725
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.960
Like a I don't know who did this. It was

726
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:11.119
a franchise, but I don't think Marvel did this particular movie. Okay,

727
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:15.119
this was before Marvel got the franchise back, but it's

728
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.119
a characters from.

729
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.920
Marvel Comics is the point, you know, they're they're Marvels.

730
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.000
There, Marvel character.

731
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.519
I'm assuming she played that blue alien looking transformed into

732
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:28.519
anybody she wants.

733
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:30.000
That's right.

734
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:31.639
I don't remember her.

735
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:38.119
Name, Miste yep. Okay, yep. And it was the X Man.

736
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:44.280
Ah okay, all right, Paul throwing this one at you,

737
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:50.440
all right, ready, we're gonna do that. This is deep

738
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.000
cheese an eighties eighties camp and.

739
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:56.440
Cheese, breath bated breath brother.

740
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:03.639
Before Take the Hell of the Uss Voyager. Robert Duncan

741
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:08.960
McNeill played Kevin Corrigan in this nineteen eighty seven Dolph

742
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.039
Wandren led live action screen version of a Saturday Morning

743
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.360
animated cartoon. Can you name the movie?

744
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.800
Not only can I name the movie, but I have

745
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:29.199
the power because we're talking of Graco The Masters of

746
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:35.599
the Universe. The Universe big remake coming so I think

747
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.440
next year actually so huge remake in the works, so

748
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.880
we'll see if it's any good. I just I just

749
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.199
love what a mean means. Skeletor has become Skeleto is

750
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.519
my favorite meme or sister. It says something it means away.

751
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:48.960
Oh yeah, that's funny.

752
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:54.159
You think everything is woke.

753
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:55.199
You're in the hole and the.

754
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:03.000
March talk sports are on fire, and I'm making these

755
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:04.079
way too easy.

756
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:06.320
So let's swing.

757
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.000
Let's swing the pendulum back to let's put the pressure

758
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:13.639
on all right again. Okay. Before playing in the heroic

759
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:18.440
Captain Pickle Patrick Scott, I'll played an honor bound night

760
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.679
of the round Table in this nineteen eighty one King

761
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.599
Arthur named the character which is a little tough, and

762
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:27.280
the movie, which I think is easy.

763
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.679
Well, the movie is easy as ex caliber.

764
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.360
Absolutely and maybe not so.

765
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:41.519
Did he play like Leon or something like that, or.

766
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.960
Yes he did Leon de Granz.

767
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:54.000
Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, there you go. I've seen it.

768
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.320
But but they came out.

769
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.079
Eighty one. It was rated. We had to go see

770
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:06.719
it so so bad. I take it to some Disney

771
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.400
movie going to them at the cineplex. When the movie

772
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.079
started to sneak out in the bathroom into the theater,

773
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:16.599
we can see x Caliber getting.

774
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:19.239
I have to say I was. I was eighteen and

775
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.000
I was able to get in and see that, and

776
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.639
I just was. There was one scene that just kind

777
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:27.639
of I don't know, it was a good movie.

778
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.679
Yeah, we know what scene you're talking about.

779
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.760
Realized that I was not I.

780
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:38.280
Was not a worldly person at eighteen Okay.

781
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.719
So that was I was really And you're like, oh, oh,

782
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:48.719
I get it, but yeah I did movie.

783
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:53.280
Yeah. If you haven't seen that's caliber, please check it out.

784
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:54.599
It's it's a really good.

785
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.079
It's getting a nice four k.

786
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.239
Oh cool mhm. So we're gonna put the pressure and

787
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.199
see if you can keep with this one movie that splits.

788
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:06.920
Are nailing it tonight, guys, nail.

789
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:11.159
Don't you want to ask Charles? He needs to answer something.

790
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.199
Let me see. I don't think do I have Charles

791
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:24.599
on my list? Or was this one? Man? Yeah? I

792
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:27.320
got ahead of myself. This one of this isn't London.

793
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.119
I want all right, I know you're you're the Spot.

794
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:36.239
But before London would bring Spot to the silver screen

795
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.719
and star Trek the motion picture, he would appear as

796
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:43.880
doctor David Kidner in this nineteen seventy eight sci fi

797
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:51.320
horror remate. What was the movie? Wasn't much of us?

798
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.719
Horror fan? The one thing that comes to minding a

799
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.679
body status, That's right?

800
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.119
They also Body.

801
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.440
Is amazing amazingly good movie?

802
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:06.800
Is it?

803
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.239
Really that good. I haven't seen it.

804
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:12.320
Watch it it? Should you watch it? I can't believe

805
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:16.119
you have it. It's like a phenomenal I'm just beautifully.

806
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:18.480
You had you had.

807
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.000
It's amazing. It's such a good film. I mean, it's

808
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.199
just really Philip's a brilliant director. It's just it's yeah,

809
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:28.360
it's top tier, top shelf liquor. Absolutely amazing.

810
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:44.239
The movie with the amazing don't tell the ending just

811
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:48.159
scared me to death when I saw that. Move on,

812
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:54.039
we're gonna We're gonna swing back to Paul for this one.

813
00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:00.320
Another one of those eighties, eighties cheese camp movies. I okay,

814
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:05.280
Oddly enough, a lot of these are Patrick Stewart Wow, okay,

815
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:13.480
And this is from in nineteen eighty one Armstrong and

816
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:18.199
has his first on screen kiss with a man. And

817
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:23.559
this Tobe Hooper sci fi horror classic movie about space vampires.

818
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:25.360
Can you name that movie.

819
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:30.000
Let's be clear, it's about naked space vampires. Okay, because

820
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:31.400
you're you're talking about Toby.

821
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:35.800
I mean Stewart maked.

822
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.400
No, he's not, he's not. He's he plays like kind

823
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:46.880
of an academic dufus, right, it's it's Toby Hooper's Life Force, Okay,

824
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.559
which is just like it's it's, it's, it's, it's. It's

825
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:51.360
kind of a train wreck. I mean it really is.

826
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.679
It's like a weird, but it's just there's something just

827
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:58.079
bizarrely entertaining about it. I mean, it shouldn't be watchable.

828
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.079
It's kind of a bomb bab bombination, but it's so

829
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:05.440
it's so wonderful. I just don't even know. It's just

830
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.599
if you've never experienced life for us, you got to

831
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:07.960
watch it.

832
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:09.800
It's just crazy, you know.

833
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.000
Yeah, it's it's that's I love that early eighties.

834
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:19.559
Era, Jim. That's that's why I thought those ones at you.

835
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.320
All right, this one's going back to David. I mean,

836
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:29.239
I'm sorry, this one's going on ready, no before he

837
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:34.760
was the under innocent mountain fellow star Tuck alumni call

838
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:40.280
me Build the American Railroad. You named the show and

839
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:46.119
the character this, by the way, is an out Oh

840
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:47.440
my god, this show is awesome.

841
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:49.679
If you haven't seen it, he was a union man.

842
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:52.320
He was.

843
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:55.840
That's a take on He's.

844
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:59.159
Kind of like a Captain Pike in the Old West

845
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.320
type of he's got the same type of character as

846
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:05.679
Captain Pike. He's the heroic, do what the right type

847
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:06.000
of guy.

848
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.320
He's got a really pumpy name too.

849
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:14.119
The answer character is I haven't finished the whole series.

850
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.840
I'm only halfway through, but I'm just enjoying the hell

851
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:18.280
out of it. It's it's a great show.

852
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.320
I think I'm gonna pick swing it over to the

853
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:24.239
what what?

854
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:26.199
I think the knows exactly.

855
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:26.719
Which one this is.

856
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:27.360
I do not.

857
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.519
David knows. I know David's gotten.

858
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:46.159
It's a Titanic movie. I actually have no idea anybody

859
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:46.599
else wanted.

860
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:51.480
You're talking about hell on wheels, Hell on wheels, Well

861
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.800
on wheels. Yeah, and called Meenie's great. He doesn't get

862
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.199
the credit he deserves. It plays like I think it

863
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:02.000
was like Doctor Rant or something the show. But uh,

864
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:04.719
And I just love Anson Mount's character name because he

865
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:06.920
sounds like he's straight out of a harlequin romance, right,

866
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.880
Colen Bohannon, It's just such a cheesy character name.

867
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.639
Col Mooney is such an evil hearted, wholehearted last year

868
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.360
you just hate the guy. I mean, brain to this.

869
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.400
It's quite the test, but it's a really fun show

870
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:30.760
to watch. We're gonna swing over to V for the

871
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:34.159
final question. The night. Well, I do have a bone.

872
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.320
His question I'm gonna throw out of everything. Oh, this one,

873
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:42.199
this one is a v okay will we And he's

874
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:47.480
best known as Wesley Rusher. And in this nineteen eighty

875
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:59.920
six Stone Trek alumni Jerry O'Connell looking for a dead body.

876
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:03.679
Can you name the moon the movie? And a bonus

877
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:05.199
if you can name the character that.

878
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:09.119
He Yeah, it was stand by me, God, I've forgot

879
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:14.119
had forgotten that he had directed man and he was, uh,

880
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.719
his last name was the chance was?

881
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:18.440
And what was.

882
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:31.039
George? Was it Georgy? George? Yeah, Gordy, that's right, Gordy.

883
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:37.159
You guys got a And Jerry O'Connell was Jerry O'Connell

884
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:42.000
was vern you know who knew that he was dorky,

885
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.920
you know, chubby kidd to the hotness that he is today.

886
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:51.360
So well great, he was amazing.

887
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:59.239
Hmmm, yeah it was. And it was based on it

888
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.719
was based on on the short story by Stephen King

889
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:03.599
called The Body.

890
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:10.599
So you guys, you guys did awesome. One hundred, one

891
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:12.559
hundred every question right this week?

892
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.360
This is the questions Either to Jim, I feel like

893
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:17.480
I'm feeling it right now.

894
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.199
Well, That's that's why I I don't post them in

895
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.280
our chat because I want you guys to be surprised

896
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.719
and have as much as what it is answering him

897
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:30.039
as possible. So yeah, excellent. So here's my bonus question.

898
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:35.119
All right. Let me let me preface it by saying

899
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.199
I had David in mind when I put the original

900
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.559
question up, because I figured there's no way he will

901
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:41.679
not get this one.

902
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:43.360
Question.

903
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:48.280
And then the question. I realized to myself, Wait a minute,

904
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:52.079
there's about fifteen answers to this question. Why should I

905
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.440
just throw it at dating? So I'm going to throw

906
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:57.559
it at everybody, but I'm going to let David take

907
00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:59.519
the first crack so that he can prove that I

908
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:07.800
was wrong. I think so. Paul Urban Carl Urban has

909
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:11.679
played many different characters across many different franchises in his

910
00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:17.440
long career, but he's known as the stand Trucks fans who.

911
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.119
Uh what?

912
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.840
The one, the one I'm best, the one that I

913
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.239
know him best for is in the Writic Chronicles.

914
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.519
Wait, Carl Urban, I think you're thinking of the wrong person.

915
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.440
Didn't he play in the Chronicles?

916
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:39.400
I think he didn't.

917
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.039
Are you thinking of that he did?

918
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:41.920
No?

919
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:52.159
No, no, yes, yeah, he played in the sequel we

920
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:57.880
got one on? So can you can you name another

921
00:56:57.960 --> 00:56:58.800
character that that.

922
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:00.519
Life?

923
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:03.920
We're talking about soccer of course, I mean for Star Trek.

924
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.880
David did not say the one that Yeah, fans, I

925
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:10.119
thought David would jump on it.

926
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:11.239
Am I coming through?

927
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:11.519
Okay?

928
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:12.280
Yeah?

929
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:14.880
Can you hear me? Yeah?

930
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.519
Okay, Now sometimes it feels like you can't well, doctor McCoy,

931
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:22.599
of course, right, and then for me, judge, dread, right,

932
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:24.360
dread is right up.

933
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:33.760
There, Judge, that's right, of course. Phenomenal doctor two. Mm. Yeah,

934
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:37.239
he plays a great v Can you name the character

935
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.519
that he played? I have one of nine and I

936
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:46.440
think you definitely would know. I note a TV show

937
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:50.519
was a top show with a where he played a human. Well,

938
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.320
because if I tired the rest of it, they would

939
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.079
give the whole They would give the whole ship talked

940
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:03.880
about the show we have, Oh God, but you don't

941
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:06.039
remember half the stuff we talked about on the Facebook.

942
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:11.519
Okay.

943
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:18.760
He was a human who had an android.

944
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:23.079
Human cop put it? Oh wait, was that was he

945
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:24.480
in RoboCop? Was it?

946
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:26.840
No? Wait?

947
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:30.599
What was that RoboCop? I don't remember?

948
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:34.320
No, he had it?

949
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.239
Wait had a no I'm thinking that's the reverse. Never

950
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:42.880
mind that was what's his name? I can't think a

951
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.639
human cop who had an android.

952
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.320
Partner only lasted one season and then Flax foolishly canceled it.

953
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:51.119
Hm hmm.

954
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.559
It's a really great show. We talked about it before.

955
00:58:55.199 --> 00:59:00.800
It doesn't mean anything. You should know that. By all right,

956
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:01.880
just so you.

957
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:04.599
Know what does as soon as this show is over, Jim,

958
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:05.400
do you know what she does?

959
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:06.280
I drink.

960
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:13.079
Bloot out and forget that should happened.

961
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:19.920
Yeah, I have a I have a box, a box

962
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:25.039
of contraband romul and ale in the back there, should we?

963
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:25.719
All right?

964
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:27.159
Okay?

965
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:32.119
The name of the show was almost Yuman John Tennant.

966
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:36.039
Oh see, I don't remember. I don't remember that. God,

967
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:39.119
that's weird, okay, I don't know when we talked about it.

968
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:42.239
Might have been an alternate universe. It was the It

969
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.440
was the mirror, the mirror version of me, you know,

970
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:51.760
with a you know, headband in the leather outfits nine

971
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.599
all the time. Gosh, I'll have to look.

972
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:59.719
All right, David, can you name a character, you know,

973
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:06.039
the one that I knew Paul knew? All right?

974
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:06.559
Oh?

975
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.519
Name one? Oh yeah, sure, I mean there's a bunch.

976
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.400
I mean, the first one that comes to mind that's

977
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:21.119
more contemporary is he played Scourge in the thor Ragonrock movie.

978
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:24.039
But the one that I like to pull out when

979
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.400
the Carl Urban trivia comes out is that he was

980
01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:31.639
actually on twelve episodes of zena Warrior Princess where he

981
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:33.559
played Julius Caesar.

982
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:36.920
That's right, that's right, he did.

983
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:38.719
Excellent, excellent.

984
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:46.239
A couple Well, I should preface this. I hope you

985
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:48.599
guys want to look up on IMBD and cheating.

986
01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:52.119
I'm not kidding me. I'm a huge Buffy fan. I

987
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:53.320
remember those episodes.

988
01:00:54.719 --> 01:01:00.599
It was over forty listed. I just picked up very prolific.

989
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.559
He's very prolific, and I keep hearing that, like there's

990
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:05.719
been a lot of scuttle butt that like Amazon is

991
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:07.480
going to try to get him and hire him to

992
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.519
do a dread series right from like the movie. I

993
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:13.719
would really like to see that because he's done work

994
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:17.599
for Amazon before. At The Boys, right, did anyone mention

995
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:20.199
The Boys? But yeah?

996
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:20.800
Boys?

997
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.760
Yeah, he plays a character named Billy Butcher on the Boys.

998
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:28.440
But he's a super talented actor. I mean, there's really

999
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:30.280
nothing you can't do. I think he's just you know,

1000
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.199
way underappreciated. I think he's just tremendous.

1001
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:38.159
So I've got three mare references on my list that

1002
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:41.599
I pulled off of his page that are sci fi references, David,

1003
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:43.639
do you know any of them?

1004
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:44.719
Is there?

1005
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:45.519
Wait?

1006
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:47.760
I want to say he did a voice acting for

1007
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:50.920
like somebody in titan Ae, but I couldn't mistaken.

1008
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:54.119
Has he done a Star Wars thing?

1009
01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:00.280
I think? So, all right, well a Star Wars thing there,

1010
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.159
I'll throw some out at you. So one of them

1011
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.079
I pulled out is that he was in a movie

1012
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.400
that was made based on a video game called Doom,

1013
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:13.639
and he played a character named Joe Reaper and Doom Okay.

1014
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:18.559
He also another video game made into movies. He played

1015
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:25.320
Johnny Cage. Yeah, Mortal Obousy. He played a character named Thrill.

1016
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.599
And the one that nobody said was really surprised me

1017
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:35.920
was that he was in Return of the King of Armor. Yeah.

1018
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:39.960
Yeah, and Two Towers. He's in both those pictures.

1019
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:40.440
Yeah.

1020
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:42.079
He's the writer Roan.

1021
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:46.639
That is Trivia with Uncle Jim for for this week, guys,

1022
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:48.800
for the final show of the year. And you guys

1023
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:51.840
did one hundred. You got them all right, Some congratulations

1024
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:54.719
to you. Guys, my truck experts are shining.

1025
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:56.119
And that's it.

1026
01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:59.880
We'll be back in twenty twenty six with some more fun,

1027
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:02.400
I hope. All right, So now we're going to be

1028
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:07.119
talking a little bit of CON episode nine. But before

1029
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.400
we do that, I do have like a mini poll.

1030
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:12.719
I don't know a lot of people I guess didn't

1031
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.320
listen to the podcast or not, but we did get

1032
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.239
a few responses, not a lot, but Eric, you want

1033
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:24.199
to sell our listeners what our fans, what few fans

1034
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:29.320
responded thought about Con? And this question was overall, not

1035
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:31.360
not specific episodes.

1036
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:35.239
Yeah, absolutely after the nine episode series. How are people

1037
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:39.599
feeling about it? Jay Shepherd said seven point five very good.

1038
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:44.800
Top fan k Miller McLeod said nine. I enjoyed it.

1039
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.840
Top fan Patrick Goodman said I give it an eight.

1040
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:55.400
Really enjoyed it. Tom Demayer said four. It showed promise,

1041
01:03:56.000 --> 01:04:00.719
but it wasn't for me. James NS said was a

1042
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:06.000
great story, and John Sticicarelli gave it a one with

1043
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:10.679
no explanation and that gives us a fan score of seven.

1044
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:15.159
So very respectable, very respectable. A lot. Now that's putting

1045
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:17.719
entire series, guys, not just an episode. We're going to

1046
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:21.840
talk about episode nine tonight, and we're gonna have Paul

1047
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.159
give us a quick recap because it's been so long

1048
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:25.079
since it's.

1049
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:29.239
Been a while, and you know, it's just I don't

1050
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:30.719
get this guy with the one. I mean, what the

1051
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:34.159
you know, give us something, dude, me come on. It's

1052
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.920
just like it just seems like you're posturing or whatever.

1053
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.039
But you know, if you want to disagree with this,

1054
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:41.480
get on the air, like leave a post and tell

1055
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:43.440
us some stuff. Right, it's like stand up for your

1056
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:46.679
opinion a one. So anyhow, a lot of hard work

1057
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:48.360
wun of the series. We don't get a lot of

1058
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:52.920
radio style dramas anymore. Right, It's it's kind of cool

1059
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:55.280
to see this kind of thing making a comeback, I think.

1060
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:58.679
So this was episode nine, the finale that wraps things up,

1061
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:01.239
and for folks who maybe been following along this whole

1062
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:06.079
thing starter Khan, basically it happens to cover everything that

1063
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:10.199
was supposedly we never knew about between the end of

1064
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:14.840
Space Seed, when you know, Kirk essentially maroons Con and

1065
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:17.480
his followers on this planet, and then in Wrath of

1066
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:19.360
Khan where we see that oh Con turns out it

1067
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.880
is still alive and he's got still with him many

1068
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:23.760
many years later, so this is kind of filling in

1069
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:27.400
that bridge story. Originally, this was written as a mini

1070
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:31.519
series for television from Nicholas Meyer, who conceived of Star

1071
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:33.119
Trek Wrath of Khan and who was one of the

1072
01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:38.320
all time greatest guests of this show. Have so great

1073
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:42.679
to see his work being reinterpreted from some new voices here,

1074
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.840
because Nicholas Meyer is a rock star. So anyhow, we're

1075
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:49.159
talking about the final episode of the of the radio

1076
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:54.119
pod series called Eternity Space, Okay, and we start off

1077
01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:59.800
with the surprising return of Ivan, who we thought was

1078
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:03.039
but turns out he's been alive because you know, and

1079
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.679
and I kind of this surprised me listening to it.

1080
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:09.320
It's been five freaking years since seen Ivan.

1081
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:10.960
Right, Okay. I just wanted to make sure that I

1082
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:13.400
wasn't the only one that heard that, because it was like,

1083
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:13.679
all of a.

1084
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:16.480
Sudden, it's been five freaking years.

1085
01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:17.800
And you know what I do.

1086
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:21.800
You know what I have been living on for five years, Eric,

1087
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:25.840
I have been living all set the eel protein. Oh

1088
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.559
you'll need this water protein to live, and it's just.

1089
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.239
I'm just like, oh my god, he's slight black in

1090
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:31.519
the head.

1091
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:35.639
But yeah, you know, and I think it's Ursula says

1092
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:37.719
to him. But he realized you were adjusting minute amounts

1093
01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:39.559
of like toxin every time you eat one of these things.

1094
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:41.800
Don't go there's no problem.

1095
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:42.880
It's just.

1096
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:51.519
It's ridiculous. Anyhow, he's and he's brutally apparently killed Paolo,

1097
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.840
he intends. He reveals he does the talking villain thing

1098
01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:00.159
to Ursula really well. Allah James Bond, right, He he

1099
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.480
explains all of his plans there. He intends to kill

1100
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:07.159
Khan sees absolute power and force the rest of his

1101
01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:10.960
followers to serve him that she will carry us to

1102
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:11.960
free them.

1103
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:12.400
Right.

1104
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:17.559
He's a very articulate villain because I can kind of

1105
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:19.880
see where he's coming from to some degree, because Khan

1106
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:24.960
is screwing everyone, right, he plans this. You have this

1107
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:28.159
ship that can really only carry for the venture, right,

1108
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:31.239
and so his CON's plan is to take his daughter Collie,

1109
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:35.360
leave his followers behind, and basically betray their hope for

1110
01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:37.559
going to a new new world. He's kind of like,

1111
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:39.719
you know the Wizard of Oz at the end of

1112
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:42.159
the Wizard of Oz. Right, I'll be back for you.

1113
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:48.760
I promise rights exactly.

1114
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:52.480
It's totally like you know, so he's and so I

1115
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:55.320
can see why Ivan and some of the other followers

1116
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:58.159
in the augments would see this is betrayal, right, they're

1117
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:01.159
all desperate and starving and living off of like you know,

1118
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:04.239
SETI eel semen or whatever the hell it is.

1119
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:04.679
Right, so.

1120
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:08.320
The least it's like testicles.

1121
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:20.319
It's not a good life, right. So yeah, no, that's the.

1122
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:32.520
Yeah, not a family show, just to make clear. So anyhow,

1123
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:36.920
the venture, which is a little space space I cannot

1124
01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:39.960
I cannot hear the character of Delmanda's name without bursting

1125
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.239
out into laptun. Delmanda sounds like it belongs on like

1126
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:47.760
an old eighties Eddie Murphy sketch comedy. I mean, it's

1127
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:48.600
just I can't.

1128
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:52.279
Can of processed.

1129
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:58.199
Yeah right, it just seems really well.

1130
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:02.119
And that the boy actor, it's just what did I

1131
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:05.319
don't know, Paul, did you describe it one time? I

1132
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:07.760
know you said I'm pretty sure you were the one

1133
01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:11.880
who commented what he sounds didn't sound like an alien.

1134
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.319
That's you know, got these mental powers that can you know,

1135
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:19.279
bend you know, swords with their minds, So.

1136
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:25.079
Said Delmanda, sounds like he's like, you know the well,

1137
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:26.960
if you come to this section of the bookstore, you

1138
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.000
need your SBN number, and then you go in the

1139
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:30.560
back and we'll be able to find a copy for you.

1140
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:32.000
But if you don't know the i SB number, I

1141
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:32.479
can't look at it.

1142
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:35.039
I mean, he's like that guy. He's like the annoying

1143
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:37.560
Powell's bookstore employe. He doesn't want to really help anybody,

1144
01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:41.000
so but yet he's willing to sacrifice himself. I will

1145
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:44.239
kill myself for you, Colin. He's just really self abasing

1146
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:46.960
and just like, what is your deal? If Emmer there

1147
01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:49.800
was a character that we didn't need. It's Delmanda. But

1148
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.199
his sole purpose of the Alborians is to somehow provide

1149
01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:55.880
a ship for them to get away with. That is it,

1150
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:59.479
and create some mumbo jumbo psychic connection stuff that made

1151
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:04.039
no sense anyhow, I digress. Let me continue. So this

1152
01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:09.279
betrayal thing is happening. There's a big monoamano fight between Ivan,

1153
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:12.159
and they even had to stick in some fan service

1154
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:18.479
there so Ivan can scream out God shat NORASKI right,

1155
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:22.960
And that was very unnecessary, but there you go. So anyhow,

1156
01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:27.079
after defeating Ivan, the ship launches. But wait, first of all,

1157
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:30.199
com a, I have a heart a marvelous moment of

1158
01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:33.199
clarity where I I cannot go with you, with you, Cuddy,

1159
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:35.720
my daughter. I must stay here with my followers and

1160
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.439
take a higher purpose and lead them. So he decides

1161
01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:42.000
to stay behind, which freaks his daughter out because she's

1162
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:45.479
gonna be launched into space with Delmanda and these lunatics, right,

1163
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.760
and then no father figure anymore. And he's like feeling

1164
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:50.680
a guilty conscience, I guess, And so he's gonna stay

1165
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:52.960
behind with his followers or whatever, and so maybe they'll

1166
01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:55.319
like him now that he's killed Ivan, right. So he

1167
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:57.800
watches the venture take off, but there's like a big

1168
01:10:58.039 --> 01:10:59.920
ion storm or whatever the hell, right, one of the

1169
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.800
those you know things that only happened since that, And

1170
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:09.239
it appears appears that the that the ship explodes, and

1171
01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:12.079
so he thinks that Collie has been killed, right, and

1172
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.000
it's like, oh my god. And rather than wait a

1173
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:18.000
few minutes to confirm this, he has a big, overwrought

1174
01:11:18.039 --> 01:11:21.079
emotional meltdown and he destroys the radio, right, you know,

1175
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:24.239
kind of you know, like Gilligan's Island stuff, just kind

1176
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:26.640
of breaks it with a run, right, And so he

1177
01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:29.399
has no idea, but he assumes that Kalie is dead

1178
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:33.800
and that he's overwhelmed with grief and he's devastated by

1179
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:35.920
the loss of his daughter and the loss of all hope,

1180
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:39.119
and so he is basically the beginning of his transformation

1181
01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:42.680
into the eventful con that we see in Walth of God.

1182
01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:43.000
Right.

1183
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:46.640
But you know, if you would just basically left the

1184
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.960
radio alone, because it sure sounds to me like your

1185
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:51.439
daughter was trying to get back in touch with you

1186
01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:54.359
from the radio, right, And because she was not killed,

1187
01:11:55.239 --> 01:12:00.359
surprisingly she was survived, only they were way out into space.

1188
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:01.239
Whatnot? Right?

1189
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:05.039
And guess what. Fans of the framing device of this

1190
01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:11.039
particular radio podcast where we've been whatever happened to doctor

1191
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:14.359
Lear anyway, the historian who's really obsessed with the finding

1192
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:17.159
out all these things about and wants to keep going

1193
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:21.600
back out, Well, guess what, Oh my god, plot twist, spoiler,

1194
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:24.319
My mind is blown. It turns out that doctor Lear

1195
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:30.079
is the daughter Collie. This whole film we didn't know. Well,

1196
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:36.239
super huge surprise there, and to me, I mean that

1197
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:38.239
was a big surprise, But that was actually one of

1198
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:43.720
my favorite aspects of this show. Was at the very

1199
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:47.079
end of the finale, once CON's all taking care of nonsense,

1200
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:53.119
there's a really great scene with doctor Lear and Tuvac right,

1201
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:55.560
a good friend Tim Russ, a friend of the show

1202
01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:57.920
who's been on here before, right, And it's a really

1203
01:12:57.960 --> 01:12:59.640
great scene and it really felt more to me like

1204
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:03.119
legit star Trek writing right where it's just like, you know,

1205
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.000
She's like, I'm an augment and if you know you,

1206
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:09.039
if I leave this planet, you'll turn me in and

1207
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:11.079
I'll have to go to a penal colony. Right, And

1208
01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:14.720
and God bless him, Tuvox write you know no, I

1209
01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.239
will fight for your rights, and I will keep your secret,

1210
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:19.760
and I will also fight for augment rights and try

1211
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:21.680
to make the world a better, more tolerant place. And

1212
01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:24.640
I was just like that last scene between them kind

1213
01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:26.560
of really brought me back. It was a lot of

1214
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:30.039
historyonics and just something in this episode and a lot

1215
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.479
of nonsensical stuff that kind of left me a bit cold.

1216
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:35.319
But I really loved that last scene with the two

1217
01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:37.840
of them there, and it kind of to me validated

1218
01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.039
the fact that, yeah, this has been Collie this whole time,

1219
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:43.159
trying to dig into her past, and it makes sense

1220
01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:46.800
that she's a historian, and I really liked that dynamic there,

1221
01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:48.319
and so to me, that was a great way to

1222
01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:55.720
Jesus Christ, whoa.

1223
01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:00.520
To solve that.

1224
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:04.640
Someone just choke on SETI.

1225
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:12.560
E it wasn't me, It was not me.

1226
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:20.520
I need a glass of water. After that, I was better.

1227
01:14:22.119 --> 01:14:23.079
That was a sneeze.

1228
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:26.319
You never know.

1229
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:30.760
That's why we keep him so anyhow.

1230
01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:35.199
That is my super ham fisted and recaffeinated recap the

1231
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:40.399
final episode of Star Trekking. It was pretty goofy. I think, uh,

1232
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.600
if I was going to grade the series as a whole,

1233
01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:45.760
I think i'd give this episode probably like a seven

1234
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:48.600
and maybe bump it up to an eight, just because

1235
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:51.840
I really did love that last scene. Tim can save

1236
01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:53.439
the whole episode for me. I thought it was just

1237
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:55.039
like that was I almost felt like it was a

1238
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:57.920
different writer. But I love that moment with him and

1239
01:14:57.960 --> 01:14:59.800
Layer at the end. That was really so I would

1240
01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:02.399
give the series as a whole at nine, I would say,

1241
01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:04.680
because I think people need to support this kind of thing.

1242
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:07.079
I think it was really great to go back to

1243
01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:11.119
Frank Frankly, one of the legends of Star Trek, Nicholas Meyer,

1244
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.279
and see if he had written this whole thing that

1245
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:16.359
was never produced and say, you know, rather than let

1246
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:20.199
this just languish unexperienced by audiences, let's do something with it.

1247
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:23.079
And I think that kind of courage and creativity should

1248
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:25.479
be commended, right, because this is not enough of that.

1249
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:27.800
And just I just think it's wonderful that they took

1250
01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:30.039
a crack at this thing. Did I love all of

1251
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:33.880
it now, but I just the voice talent, the production value.

1252
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:36.600
I think it was just like very much like a

1253
01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:40.119
fun comic book, right, and I dug it, So I

1254
01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:42.840
would give the whole thing a nine. And I think

1255
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:45.079
this is a neat format to explore other corners of

1256
01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:47.439
the Star Trek universe that maybe we normally wouldn't get into.

1257
01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:50.039
So that's my take on it. I'm going to give

1258
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:52.159
this episode an eight, given nine for the series as

1259
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:56.119
a whole, and then congratulations everyone involved. This was a

1260
01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:59.239
big schlang and I think he did really fun to him,

1261
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:02.000
So I would really support more of this kind of thing.

1262
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:04.560
You So, who would else wanted to share about?

1263
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:04.760
Though?

1264
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:06.800
Are you out there?

1265
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:09.039
Del Monica?

1266
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:12.199
Yeah?

1267
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:26.279
Yeah, Eddy? It was SETI alpha ps. Was doctor really

1268
01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:36.840
related to so On? Because they must be related somehow?

1269
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.760
Maybe maybe she's on no.

1270
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.680
Anion sing family Reunion.

1271
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:48.000
At some point there could be well she no, she's not.

1272
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:54.159
How could so you mean? Doctor lear? She said? She

1273
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:59.000
calls herself Collie Noonian sing at the end, doesn't she.

1274
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:03.319
Yeh she does?

1275
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:05.119
You got So.

1276
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:09.960
One of the difficult things about figuring out Khan, you know,

1277
01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:14.399
people who came after him versus who came before him,

1278
01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:18.159
is the fact that there are varying lores in terms

1279
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:22.720
of how old Con is. So I think that the

1280
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:28.039
that the modern lore is kind of more like a

1281
01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:32.399
twenty first century Con. Right, So by the time we

1282
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:38.520
get to the original series era, when we're in the

1283
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:41.439
twenty third century, he's been around for a couple of

1284
01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:46.239
hundred years, although in the original series he was originally

1285
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:50.680
referenced as being from the nineteen nineties, if I remember correctly. So,

1286
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:56.159
so Con is like somewhere between like two and fifty

1287
01:17:56.199 --> 01:17:59.640
years old. I think by the time we get this

1288
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:00.960
ba seed am I.

1289
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:04.520
Somebody else, I think, yeah, because he was because he

1290
01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:11.319
was in Yeah, I was going to for a long time.

1291
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:15.680
Yeah, So subjective time, he's like two hundred, two hundred

1292
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.640
and fifty years old, And which is why there have

1293
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:22.800
been times throughout this podcast when they're like, oh, technology,

1294
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.720
that's amazing. How can you do that stuff? It's a

1295
01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:33.520
couple of hundred years hence, Yeah, anyway, keep going.

1296
01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:34.680
Yeah.

1297
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:38.279
So one of my favorite lines in it, and you

1298
01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:47.039
guys are probably already know, is when the doctor was

1299
01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:49.880
taking care of he kind of got his head crossed

1300
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:52.840
by the Russian dude that was sucking on the SETI

1301
01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:58.079
altit you and he uh, and he's going to kill

1302
01:18:58.159 --> 01:18:59.880
the guy, and the guy says, I.

1303
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:01.039
Need my pain.

1304
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:08.560
Right away. I was like, I love this arm. I

1305
01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:10.600
was like, yeah, they threw that in there just for me.

1306
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:13.840
They knew them. I elected with the line and they're

1307
01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:14.800
just for you.

1308
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:15.520
Welcome him.

1309
01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:20.640
Ye, I knew that, but I thought I thought that

1310
01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:26.359
and his mind bending people idiots? Yeah, you know what

1311
01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:29.840
they do. They circle the ship and sacrificed themselves, right,

1312
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:30.840
is that what they did?

1313
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:31.640
Yeah?

1314
01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:32.880
And it was weird.

1315
01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:35.239
It helped me out with this, guys, because this drove

1316
01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:39.239
me crazy listening to this last episode. They kept referencing

1317
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:42.479
the pandems right who.

1318
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:47.920
That's all of them were elective. It's a collective, their

1319
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:51.840
collective mind that served like a hive mind with the board.

1320
01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:54.920
But it's with the Eldrians, That's what it's. So they

1321
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:58.560
are more powerful as the pandem together.

1322
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:02.279
So even though they have another species name for themselves,

1323
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:06.039
the Alborians, they call themselves something else when they're merging together.

1324
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:07.279
No, no, they're not.

1325
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:10.359
It's just it's called the pandom just like the board

1326
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:14.319
are in the they're in the hive mind the yeah,

1327
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.279
the collective. Yeah, that's what this is.

1328
01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:22.439
Okay, writers, that was not well explained. I'm like, I'm

1329
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:25.439
I'm gonna blame that because I didn't understand it, right,

1330
01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:26.199
So that's what you did.

1331
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:27.600
I know what it was.

1332
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:30.680
It was explained briefly, but it was a while. I

1333
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:32.359
don't remember what episode it was.

1334
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:34.359
Yeah, I totally forget that.

1335
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:37.760
Yeah, yeah, but I do, Okay, thank you.

1336
01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:40.199
I was it was just like kind of scratching my

1337
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:42.000
head on that one when I was listening to what

1338
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.079
the hell is that pandemic? Like, what the hell?

1339
01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:49.520
I was really surprised when when he came back he got,

1340
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.720
like you said, sucking on SETI alphas for five years

1341
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:57.560
out in the wilderness. You know, that's a lot of

1342
01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:04.800
SETI alphite. But uh, I think that the tu Haak

1343
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.359
and Leo stuff really saved it from me at the end,

1344
01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:11.840
that whole thing at the end where Tu haks I

1345
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:14.399
know who you are about the ship and kind of

1346
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:16.880
just lays it right out there. I thought that was

1347
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:19.279
great and that really brought the whole thing in a

1348
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:22.119
full circle. And that turned Con into the con that

1349
01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:25.119
we know Con will be and turned him from the

1350
01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:27.800
when the show started off, he was a different Con.

1351
01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:30.560
I'm like, how was he going to get to that con? Well,

1352
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:33.000
he got there and they put him there, and I

1353
01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:35.319
thought they did a great job with that. So yeah,

1354
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:39.239
I enjoyed this episode. I give this episode of seven

1355
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.680
and I think I'm I might there with our fans.

1356
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:46.159
I think I give the overall all nine episodes story.

1357
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:48.279
There were a couple in there that were kind of

1358
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:51.800
like what U, But overall, I think I'd give it

1359
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:58.319
maybe an eight seven point five for Paul. Paul likes

1360
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:01.000
those best ones. How about you be?

1361
01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:01.840
Yeah?

1362
01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:02.039
It?

1363
01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:06.199
Uh? Well, the one, the one part that was they're

1364
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:09.640
so good with their whoever the Folly Artist is when

1365
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:13.960
Con kills Ivan and I think he's I think he

1366
01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:18.880
slashes his throat because there's that horrible gurgling, choking noise

1367
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:21.159
and I was just I was just cringing because that

1368
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:24.600
sounded so I mean, it was so so awesome but

1369
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:28.479
so awful at the same time. But Ivan deserved it

1370
01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:33.279
so because he had killed oh what's his name? Was

1371
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:37.159
it Paolo that he killed? And and then there was

1372
01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:40.439
the wait a monte, what was the I was a

1373
01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:44.520
little bit confused because somebody used Marla's old phaser to

1374
01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:49.800
zap somebody and I don't remember what that was. Ursula. Yeah,

1375
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:56.079
so once again Marla's star Trek or Starfleet technology comes

1376
01:22:56.119 --> 01:23:01.319
to the rescue, but conveniently, yes, conveniently, that's right.

1377
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:06.960
And and that was after con didn't crush it, and

1378
01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:08.239
then she rebuilt it.

1379
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:11.600
I don't I don't because we don't know how many

1380
01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:14.720
how many did Marla bring with her? I don't know.

1381
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:17.960
That's a that's a good Jim.

1382
01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:21.840
I thought that part was very confusing because he does

1383
01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:23.640
absolutely crush it in a pre.

1384
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:26.039
Order.

1385
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:27.760
Wasn't it the tricorder?

1386
01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:29.720
I don't know.

1387
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:33.479
I don't know. I don't remember either. That's what I

1388
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:39.279
get something. Yeah, okay, but no, that was.

1389
01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:40.479
He destroyed it.

1390
01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:45.359
He destroyed something, but I don't remember what it was. Well,

1391
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:48.479
I thought, you know, when when the whole thing with it.

1392
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:50.479
He destroyed a sad card.

1393
01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:59.560
He destroyed Okay, yeah, now the the and then what's

1394
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:05.319
doc Lear was explaining what happened and how I can't

1395
01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:08.880
remember kind I can't remember anybody's names. The woman that

1396
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:11.279
raised her, that went with her, and she died when

1397
01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:15.520
when Collie was in h in college. But she had

1398
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:20.039
taken the recordings that Marla made so that nobody could

1399
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:23.479
find out who they were because they had they had

1400
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:27.119
to hide who they were when they got back to wherever,

1401
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:30.840
when I got back to civilization. But for me, it

1402
01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:34.520
was you know, coming full circle with realizing how con

1403
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:38.239
came to be, you know, what he was, what we

1404
01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:41.840
saw in Wreath of Khan. But because I thought initially

1405
01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:45.359
it was just the death, you know, losing Marla, but

1406
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:49.600
that started it, and thinking that he lost his daughter

1407
01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:52.960
finished him off and that was just that was just

1408
01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:58.359
it for him. So that was really you know, his grip.

1409
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:00.720
I think it's had a it was hard not to

1410
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:04.000
be touched by his his grief, you know, and he

1411
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:07.479
realized where he just is, just on that press precipice

1412
01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:10.359
of madness and that just kind of throws him over.

1413
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:12.760
But had he waited like five minutes he would have

1414
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:16.319
or not destroyed the radio. It's like she's you know,

1415
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:18.880
it was whatever they did that that made it look

1416
01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:24.359
like an explosion. So yeah, I would say this one. Uh,

1417
01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:27.880
I'd give it a seven point five as well, and

1418
01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:33.439
overall the series, I would say probably an eight.

1419
01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:40.039
So it was So do you think that Han survived

1420
01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:42.720
by sucking on the city outfit eels? And that's why

1421
01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.039
he had that one living in that little container. They

1422
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:47.520
just plucked out the little larvae and sucked on him,

1423
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:48.960
and that they survived.

1424
01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:51.920
It wasn't enough. It wasn't enough for all of them. Yeah,

1425
01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:54.479
that's I don't know how they survived. That's a good question.

1426
01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:58.479
They had to be sucking on eels. How else did

1427
01:25:58.520 --> 01:25:59.920
they survive for all that time?

1428
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:01.079
With yeah?

1429
01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:04.840
Because it was how Yeah, I don't know. That's a

1430
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:05.319
good question.

1431
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:12.399
Who wants to go next, David?

1432
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:23.600
I can go uh yeah. So I you know, I'm

1433
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:28.239
gonna review the series I think as a whole at

1434
01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:33.000
the same time as the last episode. So how do

1435
01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:36.560
you feel like this? First of all, I'm gonna agree

1436
01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:40.600
with Paul in terms of radio dramas being an awesome

1437
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:46.359
medium to communicate. Star Trek information and actually, if you wanna,

1438
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:50.319
if you're not tired of radio dramas and you kind

1439
01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:54.079
of like this sort of you know, dramatic interpretation of

1440
01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:58.359
a story, you should definitely go check out the The

1441
01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:04.880
Star Trek Card No Man's Land audiobook thing, which is

1442
01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:13.800
a Rothie Musicer and seven of nine story, which actually, unfortunately,

1443
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:15.800
I think is a little bit superior to this in

1444
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:19.840
terms of like it's actual overall writing. I just what

1445
01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:21.640
I really want to do is I really want to

1446
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:24.960
talk to Nicholas Myers about this series, because I want

1447
01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:29.079
to know, like how much of what was done was

1448
01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:32.439
his stuff and how much was added on. You'll remember

1449
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:39.359
that he originally designed a three episode you know, visual

1450
01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:43.119
extravaganza that would explore the concepts that we got in

1451
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:47.119
this and it got expanded to nine episodes by people

1452
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:51.239
who were not necessarily you know, who not only were

1453
01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:54.920
adding things to that story, but were maybe reinterpreting parts

1454
01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:59.159
of that story. So it got three times longer than

1455
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:01.600
he originally anticipated that it was going to be. And

1456
01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:05.800
to me, there were times during this series where it

1457
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:09.479
felt like things were filler, like it just they were

1458
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:13.800
kind of filling in stories in this episode was a

1459
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:19.880
little bit there for me, you know, Okay, so big

1460
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:24.119
overall picture, I've always had a little bit of an

1461
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:27.720
issue with the aliens in this Star Trek con story.

1462
01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:33.600
And now that we've heard the entire story and I

1463
01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:35.920
feel like I can get a thirty thousand foot view,

1464
01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:40.560
I can definitely say that the aliens were completely unnecessary.

1465
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:44.560
How much cooler would it have been to have Khan

1466
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:49.640
be the guy with his superior intelligence who figured out

1467
01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:53.039
a way to build a ship that would get them

1468
01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:55.880
off the planet, right, and then he builds his own

1469
01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:59.920
ship which he puts his daughter on, and then he

1470
01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:02.880
thinks the ship like. There are just so many reasons

1471
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:08.239
that aliens were not even close to necessary in this story,

1472
01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:13.439
and I can't believe that that was part of Meyer's

1473
01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:16.920
original story, but I wish I could ask him about it.

1474
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:19.319
So if you could just you know, get to work

1475
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:20.920
on that, Jim, that'd be awesome.

1476
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:28.159
Idea.

1477
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:31.760
There we go, There we go. There was also a

1478
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:35.359
moment in this particular episode where it felt like a

1479
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:39.119
super weird bait and switch situation to me. So the

1480
01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:42.479
whole time, CON's like, I'm going on the ship, right,

1481
01:29:42.920 --> 01:29:44.600
I'm gonna be one of the four people that can

1482
01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:46.439
fit on this ship, and I gotta take my daughter,

1483
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:48.039
and I gotta take this other person, and I gotta

1484
01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:50.439
take this other person and it's gonna be great. And

1485
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:53.239
then and he does it, and then like from a

1486
01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:55.880
writing standpoint, it just like all of a sudden switches

1487
01:29:56.239 --> 01:29:58.039
and he's just like, by the way, I'm not going

1488
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:02.560
and I gotta stay with the people. And it felt

1489
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:06.960
very awkward to me the way that they made that transition.

1490
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:14.600
The we have we have seen Con during this series

1491
01:30:14.720 --> 01:30:17.239
take on many different forms, right, We've seen the leader,

1492
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:21.119
We've seen the father, we've seen the lover, We've seen

1493
01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:26.199
the person who has to make hard decisions. Like, We've

1494
01:30:26.279 --> 01:30:29.079
seen so many different versions of of Con.

1495
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:30.199
And.

1496
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:34.840
I guess I feel like in this case they it

1497
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:40.359
just felt like an awkward transition for me. So I

1498
01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:44.600
felt like the whole series was had a really cool concept.

1499
01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:46.880
I love that they made it. I feel like it

1500
01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.319
probably could have been four to six episodes instead of

1501
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:59.479
nine episodes. So yeah, overall, this episode, I it wasn't

1502
01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:01.920
the weak, but it was kind of a little like

1503
01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:05.560
I was unsatisfied with Ivan coming like I even comes

1504
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:06.840
back out of nowhere.

1505
01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:14.279
Very kind of.

1506
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:19.800
It was almost like Hollywood movie, you know, where you're like, oh,

1507
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:22.760
d We've set up the whole story and then boom,

1508
01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:23.920
oh bad guy shows up.

1509
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:24.439
Oh my god.

1510
01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:29.840
So I I the the the end execution I was

1511
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:33.479
dissatisfied with, but I really want more of this kind

1512
01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:38.920
of content. So this episode six point five at best

1513
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:44.079
for me. Overall series, I'm gonna say eight point five.

1514
01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:48.039
I definitely want more of this kind of stuff. I

1515
01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:51.920
want them to keep exploring it. It's fun to listen

1516
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:54.760
to audio dramas where you get like, you get to

1517
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:57.880
build pictures in your head of what's happening, but it's

1518
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:01.039
augmented by the sound that you're hearing and that kind

1519
01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:02.800
of stuff. It's I love listening to it in the

1520
01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:07.119
car myself. So yeah, eight point five overall, but a

1521
01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:09.039
little bit of the week episode for me.

1522
01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:15.800
All Right, you want to jump in stall sure.

1523
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:19.399
I think everybody's pretty much said most of what can

1524
01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:22.520
be said in this episode. I like the ending with

1525
01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:24.960
I like the ending and how they set that up

1526
01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:28.680
with Tubac. I think that shows a good side of

1527
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:33.880
Tubac and how this works. And I didn't expect it

1528
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:39.119
to be her daughter of course. But over all that,

1529
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:41.319
but I think the way it is like, Okay, all

1530
01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:43.399
of a sudden, I Evan shows up five years later,

1531
01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:45.840
It's like, Okay, they're getting ready to launch of ship.

1532
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:49.680
That takes five years for their launch to ship didn't

1533
01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.439
quite make a lot of sense, And just the back

1534
01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:55.760
and forth that was going on there just.

1535
01:32:57.439 --> 01:32:58.880
Was a bit too much for me.

1536
01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:05.239
I think I will give this episode maybe a seven.

1537
01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:10.760
It'll be nice because of the ending, but I think overall,

1538
01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:13.800
I think it had had its issues. I'll go eight

1539
01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:16.720
with the series. I think the series had a good job.

1540
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:19.960
I think I agree with Eric. I think the Aliens

1541
01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:22.720
was a little too much. I think we could have

1542
01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:23.960
left the Aliens out.

1543
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:30.039
I like, David, you get to bring up the kaboos,

1544
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:33.960
Boddy sreat. Yeah.

1545
01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:37.600
I agree with everybody that you guys said about the

1546
01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:42.520
whole episode. I think what would have been really interesting

1547
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:44.760
to see instead of earlier when coming to visit I

1548
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:49.600
think the idea of like them finding a shipwreck and

1549
01:33:49.720 --> 01:33:52.720
then con rebuilding on top of the frame would have

1550
01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:57.000
been an interesting take on the whole thing show. Other

1551
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:01.920
than that, I mean, can someone point out where did

1552
01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:04.199
this fit in the time frame after they leave the

1553
01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:07.720
planet and then the wrath of con happening becuse to me.

1554
01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:10.239
I'm like, you guys were mentioning like how long did

1555
01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:13.159
they survive, you know, floating in space or whatever for

1556
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:16.680
who knows how long? And fro I'm like, this is

1557
01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:19.279
like more than five years in the making, right, is

1558
01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:19.680
that's true?

1559
01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:20.159
I think?

1560
01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:23.159
I think if I remember correctly, they're supposed to be

1561
01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:27.720
on City Alpha five for something like fifteen years, somewhere

1562
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:32.000
between like eleven and fifteen years. No, Paul's shaking his head.

1563
01:34:32.119 --> 01:34:32.640
He's not sure.

1564
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:35.720
No, I'm not sure how long it is either, But

1565
01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:38.199
it just seems like an insane amount of time, right,

1566
01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:40.720
I mean, it's just like when it's like when they

1567
01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:44.560
said when we found out that like, you know, you know,

1568
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:47.920
Bruno had been gone for like five years eating set

1569
01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:50.479
of heels, right, I'm like years, come on, I mean,

1570
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:52.880
it's just it's just such a how would you live

1571
01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:54.520
on this planet with nothing? I mean, it's just it's

1572
01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:56.640
it's like Jim said, it's like, you know, it's really

1573
01:34:57.159 --> 01:34:59.000
they kind of set it up a conundrum you can't

1574
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:02.199
really explain unless you can simply find other animals.

1575
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:03.840
Or stuff right there, you know, or something.

1576
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:07.960
But you know, it's how they survived fifteen years with nothing.

1577
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:14.840
I mean, come on, yeah, So I mean overall the episode,

1578
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:19.199
this episode, to myself, I actually was very very expised

1579
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:27.279
that Lear became the daughter of Cohn. And it actually

1580
01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:29.720
makes sense now if you go back and listen to it.

1581
01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:30.439
Is how.

1582
01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:35.800
How important this mission for doctor Lear wires to try

1583
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:40.439
and find, you know, everything she can about the files

1584
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:42.800
and everything that two were looking for, because she was

1585
01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:45.479
looking for an explanation of what was going on, and

1586
01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:48.399
you know, she just wanted to know that her father

1587
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:53.920
wasn't somebody who just left her. And I was like, yeah,

1588
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:56.520
that makes a lot of sense now that she is

1589
01:35:56.840 --> 01:36:01.359
actually Conn's daughter. But ah, I agree with a lot

1590
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:03.520
what you guys were saying, like it doesn't make sense

1591
01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:06.560
with this and that, and I'm just like, yeah, listening

1592
01:36:06.600 --> 01:36:08.479
to you guys, I'm like, Okay, I think I got

1593
01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:11.159
my score now. But there was such a couple other

1594
01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:13.000
things that didn't make sense to me too, like the

1595
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:21.119
whole idea of the even coming back. You guys already

1596
01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:25.680
talked about that, but I don't know, there was just

1597
01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:30.720
something about this particular episode it just almost felt like

1598
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:33.479
it was just kind of like Eric said, you know,

1599
01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:36.319
somewhat of a filler. So it was just like I

1600
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:38.800
didn't really quite enjoy it as much as I thought

1601
01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:42.720
I would. But like you guys said, Tubac saved the episode,

1602
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:45.560
and I was like, Okay, the ending was great, but

1603
01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:48.760
the middle in the beginning was like, oh man, that's

1604
01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:51.720
just took a long time. And it was like forty

1605
01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:54.520
some minutes. I think this was like the longest episode

1606
01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:58.079
out of the nine if I'm correct, So it was

1607
01:36:58.199 --> 01:37:01.520
just like, wow, it took a while. But I mean

1608
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:06.760
other than that, yeah, so I'm I don't know, I

1609
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:08.399
don't want to take too much time on it, but

1610
01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:11.640
it's just the idea that this episode kind of fell

1611
01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:15.359
flat for me. So this episode here, I'm gonna actually

1612
01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:23.119
give a sixth, but the overall series, which I was

1613
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:28.279
really hoping they could do a second seaton, I I

1614
01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:32.760
think I'm gonna give this a seven for the whole series.

1615
01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:37.880
I liked it, but it didn't really quite capture me

1616
01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:39.960
as the other episode did in the past.

1617
01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:47.479
Show. All right, Well, that wraps up our coverage of

1618
01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:53.039
Time all nine episodes, and you know what that brings

1619
01:37:53.119 --> 01:37:58.159
us up to, David. That brings us up to our birthdays.

1620
01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:00.960
And you know what that means. I have to find

1621
01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:04.880
the song. I have to play the song. I hope

1622
01:38:04.920 --> 01:38:24.079
it works. There we go. That was not a clon song,

1623
01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:27.000
all right, does This is a part of the show.

1624
01:38:27.239 --> 01:38:30.239
We remember those members of our sci fi family who,

1625
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:32.600
sadly enough, are no longer with us, and for that

1626
01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:35.000
returned to Eric Jim.

1627
01:38:35.079 --> 01:38:38.520
This week we remember six members of our community who

1628
01:38:38.600 --> 01:38:42.279
have gone before us. The first is actor Joseph Bernard,

1629
01:38:42.680 --> 01:38:46.000
the actor who appeared as Tark in the two S

1630
01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:50.239
second season episode Wolf in the Fold. Bernard also made

1631
01:38:50.279 --> 01:38:53.840
guest appearances on such television series as The Twilight Zone,

1632
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:58.159
The Untouchables, and Mission Impossible, and he actually taught acting

1633
01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:02.319
at the Lee Strasburg Theater Institute in Hollywood, and later

1634
01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:06.159
opened his own acting school, the Joseph Bernard Acting School

1635
01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:10.600
in Las Vegas, Nevada. How about that, Charles, So Happy

1636
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:14.680
birthday to Charles Bernard, lost back in two thousand and

1637
01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:18.000
six at the age of eighty two years old. Happy

1638
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:21.039
birthday as well to Michael Keenan, the actor who played

1639
01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:27.880
Matrin in the TNG episode Subrosa also played Rothgar on

1640
01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:33.239
Voyager's episode Heroes and Demons and played Patrick on DS

1641
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:39.840
nine's episodes Statistical Probabilities and Chrysalis, so three different Star

1642
01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:43.279
Trek series to his credit. He's probably best known, however,

1643
01:39:43.399 --> 01:39:48.239
for playing Mayor Bill Pugen in Picket Fences during its

1644
01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:51.760
first season in nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety three.

1645
01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:56.239
Michael Keenan was also a director, and as a director

1646
01:39:56.319 --> 01:39:59.840
he staged works at the Old Globe Theater, the Pasadena Playhouse,

1647
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:05.119
the Oslo State Theater, Occidental College in LA's Tiffany Theater,

1648
01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:08.680
and he was also a faculty member at USC's School

1649
01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:12.560
of Dramatic Arts for quite a long time. In fact,

1650
01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:17.479
he directed plays there from nineteen eighty seven through twenty fifteen.

1651
01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:22.359
That's twenty eight years long time. So Michael Keenan very

1652
01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:26.000
talented after and happy birthday to you. Happy birthday as

1653
01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:30.199
well to Marta Dubois, the actress who played the impostor

1654
01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:34.319
Ardra in the Next Generation four season episode Devil's Due.

1655
01:40:35.800 --> 01:40:40.319
She previously co starred opposite Stephen Collins and Elizabeth Lindsay

1656
01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:44.079
in the television series Tales of the Gold Monkey, which

1657
01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:47.720
is like this weird television series where I remember seeing

1658
01:40:47.760 --> 01:40:49.600
it as a kid, but then I thought it was

1659
01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:53.079
a myth for a long time, where I was like,

1660
01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:55.520
there was this show and there was an airplane, and

1661
01:40:55.560 --> 01:40:58.680
I remember the opening credits, but nobody really remembered like it.

1662
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.079
And then I realized it was an actual show, So

1663
01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:05.000
there you go. It was only on for one season,

1664
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:08.640
airing from September nineteen eighty two through June nineteen eighty three,

1665
01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:11.680
and I remember it like it was yesterday. She also

1666
01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:14.560
had a reoccurring role on Magnum p I made guest

1667
01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:18.840
appearances on such series as Hardcastle and McCormick, The A Team,

1668
01:41:19.239 --> 01:41:22.960
La Law, and Silk Stockings. In two thousand, she co

1669
01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:27.520
starred with Scott Bakula and Robert Beltran in the romantic

1670
01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:32.840
comedy Luminara Luminarius Luminarius. Anybody seen that?

1671
01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:33.720
Yeah?

1672
01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:34.279
Me neither.

1673
01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:37.920
Marta Dubais lost back in twenty eighteen at the age

1674
01:41:37.920 --> 01:41:40.800
of sixty five years old. Happy Birthday to her. Happy

1675
01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:44.800
Birthday as well to John Everett LaCosta, known professionally as

1676
01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:48.640
Terry Carter, the African American actor and filmmaker known for

1677
01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:53.720
his role as Sergeant Joe Broadhurst in the television series McLoud.

1678
01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:57.880
He was also known as the original Colonel Tie on

1679
01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:02.359
the original Battlestar Galactica. This man started acting back in

1680
01:42:02.439 --> 01:42:06.479
the fifties, and then from nineteen sixty five to nineteen

1681
01:42:06.600 --> 01:42:10.720
sixty eight. He actually switched away from acting and worked

1682
01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:16.279
as a weekend newscaster for WBZTV in Boston. He returned

1683
01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:21.159
to acting in nineteen seventy, primarily portraying clean cut, no

1684
01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:27.479
nonsense authority Figures. Was in a blaxploitation film in nineteen

1685
01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:30.359
seventy three called Brother on the Run, and then in

1686
01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:34.960
the early nineteen nineties, the United States Information Agency sent

1687
01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:38.359
him on a goodwill tour of China to Lie's with

1688
01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:41.640
China's students and filmmakers. He spent the last two years

1689
01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:46.960
of his career working there and in Scandinavia. So pretty

1690
01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:50.840
cool guy John Everett da Costa, also known as Terry Carter,

1691
01:42:52.039 --> 01:42:54.560
lost back in twenty twenty four. Happy birthday, Terry Carter.

1692
01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:57.960
And now I feel like I have a couple of

1693
01:42:58.079 --> 01:43:01.159
extremely heavy hitters, so heavy hitting that I have a

1694
01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:04.039
hard time just like encompassing what they've actually done in

1695
01:43:04.079 --> 01:43:06.960
their lives. But I'm gonna try to make it quick

1696
01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:10.039
and easy. First, I would like to wish a warm,

1697
01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:16.359
welcome and happy birthday to Arthur Christopher Christopher ORM Plumber,

1698
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:20.800
mostly known as Christopher Plumber, live to be ninety one

1699
01:43:20.920 --> 01:43:23.079
years old. We lost him back in twenty twenty one. He,

1700
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:25.600
of course, was the actor who played General Chang in

1701
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:29.279
Star Trek sixth The Undiscovered Country, the actual best Star

1702
01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:32.359
Trek movie. He also reprised the role of Chang for

1703
01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:37.560
the video game Star Trek klingon Academy. In a career

1704
01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:41.479
spanning over sixty years, he earned two Tony Awards out

1705
01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:45.319
of seven nominations, two Emmy Awards out of six nominations,

1706
01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:49.960
and an Academy Award nomination, an Academy Award, and numerous

1707
01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:53.760
other accolades. Perhaps Plumber's most famous film role is that

1708
01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:58.199
of Captain George von Trapp in the classic nineteen sixty

1709
01:43:58.279 --> 01:44:01.960
five musical The Sound of Music. Who's Are Alive? He

1710
01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:04.920
made his Broadway debut all the Way Back in nineteen

1711
01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:10.000
fifty four in The Starcross Story. He was first nominated

1712
01:44:10.039 --> 01:44:12.319
for a Tony Award for his performance in the Broadway

1713
01:44:12.359 --> 01:44:17.439
production of JB, although actor Pad Hingele played the title

1714
01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:20.720
role when this play opened in nineteen fifty eight. But

1715
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:22.840
this guy made it more famous. He won his first

1716
01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:25.720
Tony Award in nineteen seventy four for his performance in

1717
01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:29.319
a musical adaptation of the classic tale of Sereno de

1718
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:35.640
Bergerac simply called Serra No. He acted with Renee Aberjenois

1719
01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:41.119
in The Good Doctor. He received another Tony Award nomination

1720
01:44:41.279 --> 01:44:43.840
in nineteen eighty two for a production of A Fellow

1721
01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:47.439
Like I could literally just keep reading for the next

1722
01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:50.239
twenty seven minutes and I would not even reach the

1723
01:44:50.399 --> 01:44:52.680
end of what Christopher Plummer has done in his life.

1724
01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:56.600
But suffice to say, I personally feel that General Chang

1725
01:44:56.760 --> 01:45:00.760
is one of his most seminal moments. It's great that

1726
01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:04.119
it's part of the Star Trek franchise. I love a

1727
01:45:04.279 --> 01:45:10.119
Shakespeare spouting klingon is. They're nothing better, so cool. So

1728
01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:15.319
I'll just offer a warm happy birthday to Christopher Plumber,

1729
01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:17.800
who I wish I could have met while he was

1730
01:45:17.840 --> 01:45:20.279
still with us. Once again, he's only been on four

1731
01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:24.840
years lost, fifth of for Bewreat twenty twenty one at

1732
01:45:24.880 --> 01:45:28.560
the age of ninety one years old, and last but

1733
01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:31.720
not least, on our birthday remembrance list, We're gonna step

1734
01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:33.800
outside of Star Trek and we're going to say Happy

1735
01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:39.319
Birthday to one of the best, most recognized, most influential

1736
01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:44.039
science fiction writers of all times, Sir Arthur Charles Clark.

1737
01:45:44.239 --> 01:45:50.880
Arthur C. Clark was an English science fiction writer, science writer, futurist, inventor,

1738
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:57.600
undersea explorer, and television series host. He is widely regarded

1739
01:45:57.720 --> 01:46:01.199
as one of the most influential psy fiction writers of

1740
01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:06.000
all time. Clark's science and science fiction writings earned him

1741
01:46:06.039 --> 01:46:09.840
the Moniker prophet of the Space Age. His science fiction

1742
01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:12.920
writings in particular earned him a number of Hugo and

1743
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:16.720
Nebula Awards, which, along with a large readership, made him

1744
01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:19.199
one of the towering figures of this genre. In fact,

1745
01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:22.000
he was considered one of the Big Three. At one point.

1746
01:46:22.079 --> 01:46:27.399
There was Arthur C. Clark, Isaac Asimov, and heinlend Right,

1747
01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:29.800
and those were like the guys that you went to

1748
01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:33.359
for science fiction at one point. But he was also

1749
01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:36.640
a lifelong proponent of space travel. In fact, in nineteen

1750
01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:40.760
thirty four, while still a teenager, he joined the British

1751
01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:46.760
Interplanetary Society, and in nineteen forty five he proposed a

1752
01:46:46.840 --> 01:46:52.159
satellite communications system using geostationary orbits, which in fact is

1753
01:46:52.399 --> 01:46:55.279
what we actually use now. So this guy was like

1754
01:46:56.079 --> 01:46:58.800
when I say futurist, I mean he literally said a

1755
01:46:58.920 --> 01:47:06.079
thing and then it became true. One interesting thing when

1756
01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:07.680
I was great. So I was a huge Arthur C.

1757
01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:10.640
Clark fan as a kid, and I remember hearing at

1758
01:47:10.680 --> 01:47:12.399
one point that he had moved to Sri Lanka and

1759
01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:14.239
I was like, he moved to Shri Lank. Yeah, he

1760
01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:16.920
spent his entire like the whole letter part of his

1761
01:47:17.079 --> 01:47:21.199
life there. He became fascinated with scuba diving. In fact,

1762
01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:25.239
as a scuba diver, he discovered the underwater ruins of

1763
01:47:25.359 --> 01:47:31.960
an ancient original konus Warum temple in TRINCOMII. I don't

1764
01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.479
know where that is, but this guy's swimming around and

1765
01:47:34.560 --> 01:47:35.239
discovering shit.

1766
01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:35.520
Right.

1767
01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:41.399
Books, man, you got the two thousand and one books, right,

1768
01:47:41.479 --> 01:47:43.479
there's four of those. You got the Rama Book. I mean,

1769
01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:46.279
there's so many books that this guy wrote. Songs and

1770
01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:48.800
Distant Earth. The Hammer of God is one of my favorites.

1771
01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:51.399
So I feel like I could go on and on

1772
01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:54.520
and on and fanboy about Arthur C. Clark all day

1773
01:47:54.600 --> 01:47:58.319
long because he's literally I have so many books of

1774
01:47:58.439 --> 01:48:01.720
his in my library right here. So happy birthday to

1775
01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:05.000
Arthur C. Clark, one of the most important science fiction

1776
01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:06.880
writers of all time. We lost him all the way

1777
01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:09.960
back in two thousand and eight. We do miss you,

1778
01:48:10.359 --> 01:48:12.359
and I wish you could have seen what the future

1779
01:48:12.399 --> 01:48:16.479
had for you. Man. All right, that's it. That is

1780
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:19.800
it for our remembrances. So v I'm going to try

1781
01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:23.159
and pass that thing, right.

1782
01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:28.359
So the first one have a happy birthday goes out

1783
01:48:28.399 --> 01:48:33.920
to Darlene Carr, played a Tishra in the DS nine

1784
01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:39.680
second season episode Armageddon Game, and she's got that. I

1785
01:48:39.720 --> 01:48:42.319
couldn't think of who that I knew what I mean

1786
01:48:43.399 --> 01:48:46.039
that the hairdoo. It's just so busy. I don't even

1787
01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:49.239
know what to say about that. It's just so well,

1788
01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:52.880
it's almost it seems like something on on on the Jetsons.

1789
01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:59.520
I don't know. Next somebody I actually got to meet

1790
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:05.239
back in September. A very happy birthday to Gabrielle Ruiz.

1791
01:49:06.359 --> 01:49:07.319
She knew who.

1792
01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:12.000
Yeah, she has voiced to Lynn and other characters in

1793
01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:14.279
Star Trek Lower Decks and I have to show my

1794
01:49:14.920 --> 01:49:19.680
autographed picture of to Lynn where she really did autograph

1795
01:49:19.800 --> 01:49:22.560
that line that got bleeped out. But you know, stay

1796
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:28.000
Vulcan as a mother Leeper. So anyway, Happy birthday to Gabrielle,

1797
01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:32.560
So I hope to see you on the show next month.

1798
01:49:32.600 --> 01:49:37.520
That would be awesome. And next we have Ronnie Rowe Junior.

1799
01:49:37.840 --> 01:49:43.479
He played the communications officer Ronald A. Bryce in Star

1800
01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:50.039
Trek Discovery. Next, a Happy Birthday goes out to Howie Seeg,

1801
01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:56.319
the actor, director, and producer who played Reva in TG

1802
01:49:56.640 --> 01:50:02.199
second season episode Loud as a w whisper. Like his character,

1803
01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:07.760
Sego is deaf and fun fact one of the people

1804
01:50:07.880 --> 01:50:12.520
who played one of his muses, and I meant to

1805
01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:15.920
look up her name. It's the female. She is married

1806
01:50:16.039 --> 01:50:23.199
in real life to John Delancey aka Q. Next, Happy

1807
01:50:23.279 --> 01:50:29.239
birthday to Laurie Holden, American actress who portrayed Andrea Harrison

1808
01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:36.199
in The Walking Dead and Maria Marita Cava Rubias in

1809
01:50:36.520 --> 01:50:42.600
The X Files. And then, last but not least, Bella Shepherd,

1810
01:50:43.319 --> 01:50:49.119
a rising actress starring as Cadet Genesis Lithe in the

1811
01:50:49.279 --> 01:50:54.399
upcoming series Star Trek Starfleet Academy. So we're looking forward

1812
01:50:54.439 --> 01:50:59.720
to seeing that she's a Darshaw alien determined to forge

1813
01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:04.279
her own path as an admiral's daughter at the legendary

1814
01:51:04.760 --> 01:51:10.680
Academy all right, I'm passing the burning birthday candle to Paul.

1815
01:51:12.680 --> 01:51:14.680
Thanks me just making sure you guys can hear me. Okay,

1816
01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:20.239
just switch audio device that I can. Okay.

1817
01:51:20.439 --> 01:51:20.640
Cool.

1818
01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:25.359
I wanted to just make one brief comment referencing Arthur C. Clark.

1819
01:51:26.399 --> 01:51:29.560
He's said, what to me is one of the greatest

1820
01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:30.720
quotes of all time.

1821
01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:31.199
Ever.

1822
01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:38.680
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indeplicable from magic, and I

1823
01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:42.159
think that we see that becoming more and more true

1824
01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.600
every day. So hap your birtha goes out to the

1825
01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:51.520
great Sarah Douglas, British actress who portrayed the villainous Ursa

1826
01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:54.960
in Superman and Superman Too, but did plenty of other

1827
01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:59.039
genre work as well, including doctor Lanazarel in the film

1828
01:51:59.119 --> 01:52:02.920
Retire of the Swamp Thing. So a very cool individual

1829
01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:08.720
was a great villainous foil in the Superman pictures. Happy

1830
01:52:08.760 --> 01:52:12.800
birthday to Melanie Smith, actress who played Tora Zill in

1831
01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:16.920
Deep Space nine. Was the third and most frequent actress

1832
01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:19.159
to play the role. Well, there you go, a lot

1833
01:52:19.199 --> 01:52:23.199
of casting phone numbers coming out there, it seems. Happy

1834
01:52:23.279 --> 01:52:28.199
birthday to Don Franklin. Don Franklin is the actor best

1835
01:52:28.239 --> 01:52:31.239
known for his work on SeaQuest DSV, which I know

1836
01:52:31.319 --> 01:52:35.000
we've got some fans of it's Commander Jonathan Ford. And

1837
01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:39.520
we'll keep that sequest train rolling here and say happy

1838
01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:43.680
birthday to the great Ted Ramie of course, a wonderful

1839
01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:48.239
actor and brother of Sam Raymie. Legendary director. Ted Ramy

1840
01:52:48.319 --> 01:52:50.079
has been in tons of things. I first saw him

1841
01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:54.039
in Xena Warrior, Princess and Hercules. Legendary journeys is Jock's

1842
01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:58.600
Heard the Mighty and also known as Lieutenant j Tim

1843
01:52:58.640 --> 01:53:03.000
O'Neill in sequests and if anyone's a fan of the

1844
01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:07.159
Evil Dead series, he keeps showing up as check Kaminski

1845
01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:11.159
on that and a just great, great performer and very

1846
01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:16.800
fun to watch. Happy birthday to a Jason Mantukas, American

1847
01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:21.039
character actor, a comedian, writer and podcaster who voiced chen

1848
01:53:21.119 --> 01:53:24.359
com Pog, one of my favorite characters on Star Trek Prodigy.

1849
01:53:25.640 --> 01:53:29.359
This producty Daily, such a great show and a real

1850
01:53:29.479 --> 01:53:33.079
bright spot. Great work from this actor here on that

1851
01:53:33.399 --> 01:53:36.319
and then finally give it up, voyder fans, come on,

1852
01:53:36.399 --> 01:53:39.920
what are my voider people? Let's say happy birthday to

1853
01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:44.960
the phenomenal Garrett Wong. Absolutely, you know, sometimes you get

1854
01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:47.439
promoted sometimes you don't. Sometimes you get promoted for a

1855
01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:50.640
long as time, famous for his role as en Saint

1856
01:53:50.680 --> 01:53:55.159
Harry Kim on Voyager, and then reprised his iconic role

1857
01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:58.760
on Lower Deck season five episode Fish Request. So there

1858
01:53:58.800 --> 01:54:01.800
you go, a lot of folks, and join those December

1859
01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:05.199
birthdays happening here as we cruise into the end of

1860
01:54:05.239 --> 01:54:08.000
the year. If you squint, you can see the winter

1861
01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:12.479
solstice just over the horizon any day and definitely something

1862
01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:17.560
we should all be celebrating, right, Sagittarius friends, that's right.

1863
01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:20.520
So we got a few more ticks of the clock left.

1864
01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:22.279
I'm going to pass it over to Uncle Jim. Uncle

1865
01:54:22.359 --> 01:54:23.079
Jim take it away.

1866
01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:27.159
Thank you so much. Paul. We're gonna go outside of

1867
01:54:27.239 --> 01:54:29.279
Star Truk An then I'll be on Star Trek and

1868
01:54:29.359 --> 01:54:33.479
we're gonna say happy birthday. Tod Wallace that's known as

1869
01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:38.359
Mary Tale and e t the Exits Terrestrial movie, actually

1870
01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:41.399
played Karen White, the leading role in The Howling Opposite

1871
01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:45.560
her Stone. They had fed together in the Stephen King's

1872
01:54:45.760 --> 01:54:50.279
classic Kujo I met her to drive in. Actually, if

1873
01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:52.479
you look at the bottom right hand corner of this picture,

1874
01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:54.680
you'll see her with me and my wife and my

1875
01:54:54.840 --> 01:54:57.760
daughter Karen had a drive in that was showing the

1876
01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:01.319
Howling and she was there, and she walked around all

1877
01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:04.319
the cars, shaking people's hands and taking pictures with us.

1878
01:55:04.399 --> 01:55:08.000
And she was the most delightful, charming person that I've

1879
01:55:08.079 --> 01:55:10.880
ever met. She was so cool. It was like hang

1880
01:55:10.880 --> 01:55:14.840
along with your grandma. She was just awesome. So Happy

1881
01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:17.439
birthday to d Wallace.

1882
01:55:17.680 --> 01:55:20.159
Jim. I always say that, like, if you want to

1883
01:55:20.279 --> 01:55:26.880
introduce somebody to the werewolf genre, that movie is the way.

1884
01:55:26.760 --> 01:55:32.520
To do it, Like, yes, how yeah, yeah, it's great.

1885
01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:35.319
It is a lot of fun. I also want to

1886
01:55:35.319 --> 01:55:39.359
say happy birthday to James Side. He voiced several characters

1887
01:55:39.399 --> 01:55:43.439
in Star Trek Lower Decks. He did Grek in Tuvix

1888
01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:48.319
Cala Taurus in The Mathematically Perfect Redemption, and there's Westlake

1889
01:55:48.439 --> 01:55:52.439
in Tubs and upper Decks, and there he is right

1890
01:55:52.520 --> 01:55:55.479
there and last but not least on my list. I

1891
01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:58.279
saved the kling Us for last, and she's a might

1892
01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:04.640
clean honestly happy birthday, and the Christine Horn and there

1893
01:56:04.760 --> 01:56:08.520
she is in Oliver kling On Beauty. She played Bitha

1894
01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:13.800
and stars forks Strange New World season episode shettletkinfo ah.

1895
01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:18.159
She was the honor bound daughter of what's his face

1896
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there who was killed by what's his face in the

1897
01:56:20.279 --> 01:56:25.880
other episode of Strange New World, and we interviewed her

1898
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here on the podcast. You can guys go to Tryna

1899
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Talking dot com and check that out because she was

1900
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a lot of fun to talk to. We really enjoyed it,

1901
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and she shared a video with us of how she

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became like that. A lot of fun. Happy birthday, Christine Horn.

1903
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And that brings us up to our Star Trek News.

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We have one story and we're going to turn that

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over to a.

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Yeah Jim. This week we're gonna talk about gil Gerard,

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the actor best known for playing Buck Rogers, has unfortunately

1908
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been lost at eighty two years old. Gerard, the actor

1909
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best known for playing the epononymous space hero in Buck

1910
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Rogers in the twenty fifth Century, died Tuesday at age

1911
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eighty two. His wife announced early this morning, gil my

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soulmate lost his fight with a rare and viciously aggressive

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form of cancer. From the moment when we knew something

1914
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was wrong to his death this morning was only days.

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Janet Girard said, no matter how many years I got

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to spend with him, it would have never been enough.

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Hold the ones you have tightly and loved them fiercely.

1918
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Janet also posted Gerard's own remarks, saying, my life has

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been an amazing journey. The opportunities I've had, the people

1920
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I've met, and the love I have given and received

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have made my eighty two years in the planet deeply satisfying.

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He wrote.

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My journey has taken me from Arkansas, to New York,

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to Los Angeles, and finally to my home in North

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Georgia with my amazing wife Janet of eighteen years. Been

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a great ride, but inevitably one that comes to a

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close as mine has. Gerard continued, don't waste your time

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on anything that doesn't thrill you or bring you love.

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See you out somewhere in the cosmos. Buck Rogers was

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based on Philip Francis Nolan's comic strip, which first hit

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US newspapers in nineteen twenty nine. It follows the adventures

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of De Monis Nassak Captain William buck Rogers, who is

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frozen in May nineteen eighty seven aboord his spacecraft and

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isn't discovered until five hundred years later in twenty four

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ninety one. He's revived only to find out that the

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world he once knew was destroyed in a nuclear war.

1937
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Months after he was frozen. Gerard took his first turn

1938
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as Buck Rogers in a nineteen seventy nine film, which

1939
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became the pilot for the TV show that began airing

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on NBC later that year. The show I also starred

1941
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Aaron Gray as Colonel Will Madeering, Felix Cela as Tweaky,

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a silver robot primarily voiced by legend mel Blank, and

1943
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Wilfred Hyde White as Doctor Goodfellow. It ran for thirty

1944
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two episodes over two seasons before it was canceled in

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April nineteen eighty one. Gerard initially balked at taking what

1946
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would become his most famous role, which was developed after

1947
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the massive success of Star Wars. I turned it down

1948
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three times. I saw what it did to Adam West's

1949
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career with Batman, and this was another cartoon character. Bop

1950
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bim bam and all this bullshit. I didn't want to

1951
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do this campy stuff, he said, but he relented once

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he read the script at his agent's beest.

1953
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Yeah.

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I like the character. He's got a good sense of humor.

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It's kind of fun, not Campy. We did the movie.

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It was hugely successful, he said. Gerard was born j

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Jnruary twenty third, nineteen forty three, in Little Rock, Arkansas,

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the youngest of knife salesman Frank and teacher Gladys's three sons.

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He moved to New York in nineteen sixty nine to

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study under Philip Burton, the mentor and adoptive father of

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Shakespearean icon Richard Burton, at the American Musical and Dramatic Academy.

1962
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His first movie was nineteen seventy one's Some of My

1963
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Best Friends Are, which starred Fanny Flagg Golden Girls, Rue

1964
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McClanahan and Warhol Superstar superstar Candy Darling. He later played

1965
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the love interest of Lee Grant in the Ouster nominated

1966
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air disaster flick Airport seventy seven. Aside from a slew

1967
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of commercials, Gerard made his first foray on the small

1968
02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:53.199
screen as Doctor Alan Steward on NBC soap opera The Doctors,

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appearing in more than one hundred and sixty episodes from

1970
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nineteen seventy three to nineteen seventy six. His other notable

1971
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TV roles included Sergeant Jay Rizzo on Sidekicks with Ernie

1972
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Reyis Junior as his grandson from nineteen eighty six to

1973
02:01:10.479 --> 02:01:14.399
nineteen eighty seven, and in nineteen ninety seven he returned

1974
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to the daytime drama world for a guest appearance on

1975
02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:21.159
Days of Our Lives. One of his final film roles

1976
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was twenty sixteen's The Nice Guys starring Russell Crowe and

1977
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Ryan Gosling. In addition to his wife Janet, Girard is

1978
02:01:29.159 --> 02:01:32.600
survived by his son, GiB whom he shared with his

1979
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ex wife, model actress Connie Selica. And that folks does

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it for our news stories this week.

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I just want to for you guys who don't remember

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Buck Rogers, or maybe for a little nostalgia here, David,

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you want to roll the tape.

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And NASA lauges the last of America's deep space problems.

1985
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In a freak mishap, Ranger three and its pilot, Captain

1986
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William buck Rodgers, are blown out of their trajectory into

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an orbit, which freezes his life support systems and returns

1988
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buck Rodgers to Earth five hundred.

1989
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Years a week.

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You guys remember, yeah, watching that, I leaned the buck

1991
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Rogers it in fact, I met Gil Gerard at a

1992
02:03:15.079 --> 02:03:18.359
convention had him, Aaron Gray and Tweaky signed my Buck

1993
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Rogers poster. I love the show, Love the show. I

1994
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wanted to make sure we got that in there, squeezing

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that opening because they don't make opening credits like that anymore.

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It's a classic. It's a classic, all right, guys, Well

1997
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guess what we're at a time? Our final show of

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twenty twenty five has just wrapped. We'll be back in

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twenty twenty six with more fun, more adventures, more excitement,

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saying bad time, singing bat channels. So don't you, guys worry.

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So I just want to say to everybody please to

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be good to each other and stay stage. And I

2003
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want to say thank you so much to Pop for

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hanging out and for talking with us tonight. Thank you

2005
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so much, Paul, Thank you friends, Happy Solstice and enjoy

2006
02:04:06.239 --> 02:04:09.600
the holidays. And thank you so much to u V

2007
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for hanging out and Shrek talking with us as well.

2008
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Thank you, V.

2009
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Thank you and Lo Saturnalia for those who celebrate, And

2010
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thank you so.

2011
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Much to David for being a miracle worker and hanging

2012
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with us tonight. Thank you, David.

2013
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Welcome and happy holidays everybody.

2014
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And thank you so much to you Eric for hanging

2015
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out with us as well. Thank you Eric.

2016
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Absolutely Happy New Year everybody.

2017
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And thank you so much to our very own Charles

2018
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who got disconnected. We appreciate you. Thank you so much, Charles,

2019
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and I'm your most Texan hosts Uncle Jim. Please everybody

2020
02:04:45.560 --> 02:04:49.520
have a safe and happy holiday and make sure you

2021
02:04:49.600 --> 02:04:52.319
tune into Starkly Academy on the fifteen. It's going to

2022
02:04:52.359 --> 02:04:55.960
be a double episode and we're definitely chopping at the

2023
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bit to talk about that. So thank you so much

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to everybody. Have a great, great holiday and a happy glink.

2025
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Frequencies are closed. Good night everybody else, all stations.

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I'm ready for departure, sir, some problem right, just hoping

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this isn't the usual way of missions will go.

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Said, Oh, no, no question, I'm sure most will be

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much more interesting. Let's see what's out there.

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Engage h.

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M hm hmm.

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And that's it.